From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sun Jan 3 04:50:39 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 245924C412D for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2021 04:50:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from theron.tarigo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-il1-x12a.google.com (mail-il1-x12a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::12a]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D7mXt132mz3v9g for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2021 04:50:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from theron.tarigo@gmail.com) Received: by mail-il1-x12a.google.com with SMTP id n9so22321344ili.0 for ; Sat, 02 Jan 2021 20:50:37 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=nPrbv5R60vf9aSSGtJe6ofXPpqdq2S28I0cG0rquqGk=; b=Tjq4i4S0O34775TUva+X5hATu/hr9BJuLC5s1zajUgGWmBpbiJQWdvyEilq/dtgg7x aoWeZRKM+Ds9TTIMf4pqJSsa4uDqgmtZWzVrIQLnlrZEEYD6iiDBsGKmEPxQMvmVPxmp +VvASsQ0bEuMXGx7pavFdf3yG25lLBN1O5pp6HhLXGb5lmjO9rPvagCMtVUA8jEoO4HJ gdhvmFqUyq1Yr5XficOwjPFlQZs7rDLHGZhGy1mkYbw3Q1ew2IZraby5rK4qQslmjAEF x9Uf1qVeE+952skK/oSkhVXmh+U8BtkM0qL8Rxb3PwftTS3mFeaXK/tzxgAuvEUQnnbd x63w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530BuzDD/MQp2HffeC4vE1vEIsUYmHz4y+fsC3v+C8e0uDDvSqqB XsQm8L8mvPKYcBikiAV3a397Pmlw3bY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwSf4RZLjZco2G61KCC4UIS27hXd43HvkR4V2M2RAG+CJQCbPS+QERzUQE0DUiOLrxdriSuKw== X-Received: by 2002:a92:1e08:: with SMTP id e8mr17335992ile.16.1609649436644; Sat, 02 Jan 2021 20:50:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.31] ([71.241.135.42]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 14sm37827906ilz.7.2021.01.02.20.50.35 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 02 Jan 2021 20:50:36 -0800 (PST) Sender: Theron Tarigo Subject: Re: src: continued use of Subversion for getting updates To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <20201222183900.GA22353@www.zefox.net> <81C07616-434E-4DF4-91AC-518AECF4F16F@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> <01b07b90-e206-aa56-aa5b-91c764ef36a4@gmail.com> From: Theron Message-ID: Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2021 23:49:58 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D7mXt132mz3v9g X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::12a:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::12a:from:127.0.2.255]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[1.000]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::12a:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2021 04:50:39 -0000 On 12/23/20 2:01 AM, Warner Losh wrote: > On Tue, Dec 22, 2020, 11:47 PM Graham Perrin wrote: > >> On 23/12/2020 00:10, Paul Mather wrote: >>> … continue to get src updates via Subversion. … >> As far as I can tell: >> >> * for stable/12 alone >> > stable/11 as well as the releng branches for as long as the project has > them under support. I wrote the code to replay commits into subversion for > the convenience of our users on those branches. > Current has moved entirely to git. New commits have started up again. > Stable/11 and stable/12 are there as well, but there are a couple of last > minute snags that are being sorted out so it will be an additional day, > maybe two before those start. What's the projection for when or how the subversion mirroring of new current and stable commits will start up?  Can users trust that such updates will continue until a git client is adopted into base? (Or will there be a long-term disruption to the ability to track current using tools found in base?) From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sun Jan 3 04:57:55 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AF8D4C5095 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2021 04:57:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-qk1-x72c.google.com (mail-qk1-x72c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::72c]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D7mjG0dsmz3w14 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2021 04:57:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-qk1-x72c.google.com with SMTP id n142so20877642qkn.2 for ; Sat, 02 Jan 2021 20:57:53 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=rqEbumCzsnJee7WszLsrPUP1rWBZe9MB5mSApakttQY=; b=fiQhzObmxRu3xkh2tqiPLkhmejPbjmYQVTeLzNIGzoTdUngrrDiuXVC/g20oVi5uGS JSh70Idr2oNCEGRcCOAfrhclTXTA+EZMrQ0qDhbOjnXN6vKrzcYJWr0b9AySnDJsuGto 2xHt0QnTEBIIIT5qOyAVFcWyBXZcR9xwxCBJyDS8kX3lLALXmJLxmJtl6BoL8gVAKF8j T202o0NdjXYwy3jpfTFfGcUVEHWBfbdwJzoCZdUBzg7cCj2AeYHol4BNtnCONmiflbpX +IulIGc3ypqxzMRvSx8DKLx79DkV8knV/W3+rdgN2XS0NeSL8/WFUFLfxXTybB7AIfvD YR+A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532Udrfletivw8PB8uiHa6CF/hkv9riEu1WRti5nddbZJWzPH4Z6 +hCcCOyxjAt9uhz13JBhRqk7WDZaOijAFm3XHpGMZhv7dwjItw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwBYhCGAaPdi/q2iluwoqQTeV2KVmbWCx5eDBHHQU9LlDo64ubMKqj66Vnt47n0vAv93zRu2SkVOwwfvB4ViRs= X-Received: by 2002:ae9:ebd5:: with SMTP id b204mr66042359qkg.195.1609649872914; Sat, 02 Jan 2021 20:57:52 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20201222183900.GA22353@www.zefox.net> <81C07616-434E-4DF4-91AC-518AECF4F16F@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> <01b07b90-e206-aa56-aa5b-91c764ef36a4@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2021 21:57:41 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: src: continued use of Subversion for getting updates To: Theron Cc: FreeBSD Current X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D7mjG0dsmz3w14 X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.00 / 15.00]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::72c:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bsdimp.com]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::72c:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::72c:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2021 04:57:55 -0000 On Sat, Jan 2, 2021, 9:50 PM Theron wrote: > On 12/23/20 2:01 AM, Warner Losh wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2020, 11:47 PM Graham Perrin > wrote: > > > >> On 23/12/2020 00:10, Paul Mather wrote: > >>> =E2=80=A6 continue to get src updates via Subversion. =E2=80=A6 > >> As far as I can tell: > >> > >> * for stable/12 alone > >> > > stable/11 as well as the releng branches for as long as the project has > > them under support. I wrote the code to replay commits into subversion > for > > the convenience of our users on those branches. > > > Current has moved entirely to git. New commits have started up again. > > Stable/11 and stable/12 are there as well, but there are a couple of la= st > > minute snags that are being sorted out so it will be an additional day, > > maybe two before those start. > > What's the projection for when or how the subversion mirroring of new > current and stable commits will start up? Can users trust that such > updates will continue until a git client is adopted into base? > > (Or will there be a long-term disruption to the ability to track current > using tools found in base?) > I believe within the week. Warner _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " > From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sun Jan 3 05:03:21 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE1E24C5330 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2021 05:03:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from theron.tarigo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-il1-x131.google.com (mail-il1-x131.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::131]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D7mqX5Cm6z4Qrr for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2021 05:03:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from theron.tarigo@gmail.com) Received: by mail-il1-x131.google.com with SMTP id r17so22254429ilo.11 for ; Sat, 02 Jan 2021 21:03:20 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=yUpkKKI6bIkJzBveuR6zmVXxtutk0/V5b06aogrETow=; b=adVANWhlH2+5R5phXZNeQj5fHGGTUqQ7c4rTr7PDW2EYrAS1f3jwtSMNWJ+rTqGPUM KaMvxvKv9OABZAf1a4D/zphdsdQA2A6ahPxhRRQmTFpBPjCBVJJ7GA0KuhTFSFFMx78/ LyFvIn1ovw+RjfPrCmBP2qUZ4/IwWIL8lq+NgBNsgAPCNFzXP7VMMc72qMcciczttZ/g Up2jtMt4OKmQdQThWZjMaTKZT0W8AvHf3HbcVp/Kd9ZkQKJSuZboL2Qid8BktHgi4KUJ eG271uyOIGqY/0LrqbJVT3nHg6vi9cg67HGRcOP6zrjxnp+tzJhD0MfPmbs1yAXVWhPg JC9Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531D1ecaQ2v1IB6M5z7cvaishyuOcJ7XvdXNsnijg8o4TkgSwKCA Sit97zxXU+ZZfuPCH7GGNiGTPD8r7RY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJw4e4B3PBziStxYzb/u/NDaLVunczEeV4CNul3uzN2poYhmInkR8YG/Ylb6nC6kDy63X56uGA== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6e02:96f:: with SMTP id q15mr64509711ilt.292.1609650199502; Sat, 02 Jan 2021 21:03:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.31] ([71.241.135.42]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q5sm38170761ile.48.2021.01.02.21.03.18 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 02 Jan 2021 21:03:19 -0800 (PST) Sender: Theron Tarigo Subject: Re: src: continued use of Subversion for getting updates To: Warner Losh Cc: FreeBSD Current References: <20201222183900.GA22353@www.zefox.net> <81C07616-434E-4DF4-91AC-518AECF4F16F@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> <01b07b90-e206-aa56-aa5b-91c764ef36a4@gmail.com> <4a78a724-08d8-b9bd-1353-598b5c596078@gmail.com> From: Theron Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2021 00:02:44 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D7mqX5Cm6z4Qrr X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::131:from]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::131:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::131:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2021 05:03:21 -0000 On 12/23/20 3:49 AM, Warner Losh wrote: > I'm all ears on ways to make the docs better I think a heads-up on the Git move and how to stay up to date in /usr/src/UPDATING is needed.  I was surprised to find no mention there. From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sun Jan 3 05:07:33 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D06954C5612 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2021 05:07:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from theron.tarigo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-il1-x136.google.com (mail-il1-x136.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::136]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D7mwN5Jbkz4R1h for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2021 05:07:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from theron.tarigo@gmail.com) Received: by mail-il1-x136.google.com with SMTP id x15so22328834ilq.1 for ; Sat, 02 Jan 2021 21:07:32 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:from:to:cc:references:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=U/sSMS+VDkP96y64P85vJrzdKTL25MvYhqGpwEo6ruc=; b=CX7RofK3zuy+HAG/GamK+DVQ8Qt1EWMH8zLhbGM/zj9uB6Meh/3XHLovxpuTsU5ZOo wz1yLrQeRGjnwRPAxiduaJLYfW7ZsDHrnU60LSnNRXbcwdTumtiJ7ihSv7o1tfpYW3Wx mWsntAic62z5Uq7OZ6M9j9ZdSPP/mEP0bQJBt3NNqAH9wzvNRYTDBG3g/leIr4VaxPUf /QwB/FCG/zQQkIAR/kRC0q48yMC/nbThDY+UugxWHqX+10FuazChI2Dy3Exj0QAtkxTg Q6M8tbQ2gE3QjO92LdDajCXsVbRqNPha5xseIc60MXhnevpBVGUe8jbx6lw5jdA+FNCG wWrg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532xQTywBGSxw6b11FAvt0C+mw0ZRAC2m+82P/zrH52WhY23RV1k UMC+CkyplbwHI2Sj6kmxAUI1re/5JIM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyWRjB3JXxScRXz/PfQfnMpMTmA61re9rPSoxJgT426bGZdwiTxcO6U0le2EcqqmltaPhq44Q== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6e02:154c:: with SMTP id j12mr37522648ilu.33.1609650451658; Sat, 02 Jan 2021 21:07:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.31] ([71.241.135.42]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p13sm41332325iod.54.2021.01.02.21.07.30 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 02 Jan 2021 21:07:31 -0800 (PST) Sender: Theron Tarigo Subject: Re: src: continued use of Subversion for getting updates From: Theron To: Warner Losh Cc: FreeBSD Current References: <20201222183900.GA22353@www.zefox.net> <81C07616-434E-4DF4-91AC-518AECF4F16F@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> <01b07b90-e206-aa56-aa5b-91c764ef36a4@gmail.com> <4a78a724-08d8-b9bd-1353-598b5c596078@gmail.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2021 00:06:54 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D7mwN5Jbkz4R1h X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::136:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::136:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::136:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2021 05:07:33 -0000 On 1/3/21 12:02 AM, Theron wrote: > On 12/23/20 3:49 AM, Warner Losh wrote: >> I'm all ears on ways to make the docs better > I think a heads-up on the Git move and how to stay up to date in > /usr/src/UPDATING is needed.  I was surprised to find no mention there. Oops, I did mean to say "UPDATING in subversion". 20201223:     The FreeBSD project has migrated from Subversion to Git. Temporary     instructions can be found at     https://github.com/bsdimp/freebsd-git-docs/blob/main/src-cvt.md     and other documents in that repo. So it's there in Git.  In that case I think this should be copied to https://svn.freebsd.org/base/head/UPDATING ASAP (unless that completely breaks future migration in some way). From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sun Jan 3 06:00:48 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D39994C660D for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2021 06:00:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-qk1-x734.google.com (mail-qk1-x734.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::734]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D7p5q6ytJz4TVn for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2021 06:00:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-qk1-x734.google.com with SMTP id p14so20931645qke.6 for ; Sat, 02 Jan 2021 22:00:47 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=VLhm182XBor+XlgozmZ3B1C8L/cm+SiF71Zn1vyJLJg=; b=SF4RC4tKHkKUpu6cC+Y/oEIqbvveadG/H5go/Z+867Q6KBQSO6iamuCbjxSsvqZ+E8 6TMcXlnMBnrjPcySancrH4HgfwoNfjg6bQLvwyZKu66GT42TXuCp0ibmA48gYePRdw4d ViZfzB45SU9rk90yz5mFgfJ17APwIF/ymh35V/SSuoeupD0Y7c72V0bYVDEeQAe0tRRt GaSP/ArF5TWzZFac491s2mtAz8UzwkyQDyO/VPucqR92GLe/rB6G4m0MHjbcAzUMumq1 mz6A8ZNHVYcE57k892xWlnqivYa77erE7vMPms3jkysAsJIYwAG4ZvO39kbJZ6MZxEgm pyTw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531Clgmp+aYFz6tab9t5gNrFm655J8MQ4rWOMvcyZvyvDUdOTexI FHjlx16mtHF/u9BnBmbU9/UFAXe4veg1YixL/2Y7og== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJycxl16F01ilOhZNdX/2nRL01KQ7q0oiAUaOHVnF/TrHZAKoNf9F+syD8TAeaJPy6FuDE8A3Z1ziWTtr6jWh64= X-Received: by 2002:a37:8505:: with SMTP id h5mr45552834qkd.44.1609653646943; Sat, 02 Jan 2021 22:00:46 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20201222183900.GA22353@www.zefox.net> <81C07616-434E-4DF4-91AC-518AECF4F16F@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> <01b07b90-e206-aa56-aa5b-91c764ef36a4@gmail.com> <4a78a724-08d8-b9bd-1353-598b5c596078@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2021 23:00:35 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: src: continued use of Subversion for getting updates To: Theron Cc: FreeBSD Current X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D7p5q6ytJz4TVn X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.00 / 15.00]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::734:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bsdimp.com]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::734:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::734:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2021 06:00:48 -0000 On Sat, Jan 2, 2021, 10:07 PM Theron wrote: > On 1/3/21 12:02 AM, Theron wrote: > > On 12/23/20 3:49 AM, Warner Losh wrote: > >> I'm all ears on ways to make the docs better > > I think a heads-up on the Git move and how to stay up to date in > > /usr/src/UPDATING is needed. I was surprised to find no mention there. > > Oops, I did mean to say "UPDATING in subversion". > > 20201223: > The FreeBSD project has migrated from Subversion to Git. Temporary > instructions can be found at > https://github.com/bsdimp/freebsd-git-docs/blob/main/src-cvt.md > and other documents in that repo. > > So it's there in Git. In that case I think this should be copied to > https://svn.freebsd.org/base/head/UPDATING ASAP (unless that completely > breaks future migration in some way). > That would. I'll make sure something is written up, but it should exactly like before. 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Sun, 3 Jan 2021 09:14:55 +0000 Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2021 09:14:51 +0000 (UTC) From: Filippo Moretti To: "mmel@freebsd.org" , FreeBSD Current Message-ID: <983692582.6563216.1609665291403@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: References: <223516195.6185376.1609502236330.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <223516195.6185376.1609502236330@mail.yahoo.com> <32309973.477796.1609513517947@mail.yahoo.com> <680866542.6212528.1609517512906@mail.yahoo.com> <20210101172441.4cf05744@zeta.dino.sk> <1974288110.6258808.1609532377202@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Problem compiling git from ports MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.17278 YMailNorrin Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:84.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/84.0 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D7tPt3DTjz4f0w X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2021 09:14:59 -0000 Thank you Michal,=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I upgraded ruby26-gems to ruby27-gems:I did early = upgraded to ruby27 but ruby-gems was inadvertently omittedsincerelyFilippo On Saturday, January 2, 2021, 10:23:13 PM GMT+1, Michal Meloun wrote: =20 =20 =20 On 01.01.2021 21:19, Filippo Moretti wrote: >=C2=A0=20 > It worked thank youFilippo >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 On Friday, January 1, 2021, 5:25:10 PM GMT+1, Milan O= buch wrote: >=C2=A0=20 >=C2=A0 On Fri, 1 Jan 2021 16:11:52 +0000 (UTC), Filippo Moretti > wrote: >=20 >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0=20 >> I run again portmaster and I have the same error as previously >> reportedFilippo On Friday, January 1, 2021, 4:05:18 PM GMT+1, Filippo >> Moretti wrote: >>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Ufs >> It exits with a different error: >> =3D=3D=3D> Installing contributed scripts >> /bin/mkdir -p >> /usr/ports/devel/git/work-default/stage/usr/local/share/git-core/contrib >> cp -f -R /usr/ports/devel/git/work-default/git-2.30.0/contrib/* >> /usr/ports/devel/git/work-default/stage/usr/local/share/git-core/contrib >> ln: >> /usr/ports/devel/git/work-default/stage/usr/local/etc/bash_completion.d/= /git-completion.bash: >> File exists *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop. >> make[1]: stopped in /usr/ports/devel/git >> *** Error code 1 >> >> Stop. >> make: stopped in /usr/ports/devel/git >> >=20 > I remember seeing this too. I worked around that using options: >=20 > cat /var/db/ports/devel_git/options > # This file is auto-generated by 'make config'. > # Options for git-2.29.2 > _OPTIONS_READ=3Dgit-2.29.2 > _FILE_COMPLETE_OPTIONS_LIST=3DCONTRIB CURL CVS GITWEB GUI HTMLDOCS ICONV = NLS P4 PERL SEND_EMAIL SUBTREE SVN PCRE PCRE2 OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=3DCONTRIB > OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=3DCURL > OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=3DCVS > OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=3DGITWEB > OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=3DGUI > OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=3DHTMLDOCS > OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=3DICONV > OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=3DNLS > OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=3DP4 > OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=3DPERL > OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=3DSEND_EMAIL > OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=3DSUBTREE > OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=3DSVN > OPTIONS_FILE_SET+=3DPCRE > OPTIONS_FILE_UNSET+=3DPCRE2 >=20 > Regards, > Milan This is not related to cache fast lookup, but it is=C2=A0 dependency bug of= =20 ruby ports. My portmaster -ad session failed with the same issue. I noticed that=20 rubby has been update from 2.6 to 2.7 as part of this sesion. # pkg which /usr/local/bin/asciidoctor /usr/local/bin/asciidoctor was installed by package=20 rubygem-asciidoctor-2.0.10 # ls -l /usr/local/bin/asciidoctor -rwxr-xr-x=C2=A0 1 root=C2=A0 wheel=C2=A0 560 Jun=C2=A0 7=C2=A0 2020 /usr/l= ocal/bin/asciidoctor # /usr/local/bin/asciidoctor /usr/local/bin/asciidoctor: Command not found # ls -l /usr/local/bin/asciidoctor -rwxr-xr-x=C2=A0 1 root=C2=A0 wheel=C2=A0 560 Jun=C2=A0 7=C2=A0 2020 /usr/l= ocal/bin/asciidoctor root@tegra210:/usr/ports # more=C2=A0 /usr/local/bin/asciidoctor #!/usr/local/bin/ruby26 # # This file was generated by RubyGems. # # The application 'asciidoctor' is installed as part of a gem, and # this file is here to facilitate running it. # ... # ls -l /usr/local/bin/ruby26 ls: /usr/local/bin/ruby26: No such file or directory # portmaster -d rubygem-asciidoctor-2.0.10 ... Installing ruby27-gems-3.0.8... pkg-static: ruby27-gems-3.0.8 conflicts with ruby26-gems-3.0.8 (installs=20 files into the same place).=C2=A0 Problematic file: /usr/local/bin/gem ... # pkg info | grep ruby26 ruby26-gems-3.0.8=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Package m= anagement framework for the Ruby=20 language # pkg delete -f ruby26-gems # portmaster -d rubygem-asciidoctor-2.0.10 # /usr/local/bin/asciidoctor Usage: asciidoctor [OPTION]... FILE... 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[79.66.147.78]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l11sm84728569wrt.23.2021.01.03.01.21.01 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 03 Jan 2021 01:21:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: Bug 252358 - cp(1) of large files is causing 100% CPU utilization and poor transfer of ~168M/minute To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: From: Graham Perrin Message-ID: Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2021 09:21:01 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-GB X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D7tXw39Lvz4fWP X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[79.66.147.78:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::436:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::436:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::436:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2021 09:21:05 -0000 On 02/01/2021 20:05, Matthias Apitz wrote: > Here we go:https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=252358 Thank you. I plan to build and install 82397d791966b09d344251bc709cd9db2b3a1902; ---- In the meantime: might 252358 be the cause of a peculiarity that I encountered, a week or so ago, whilst using sysutils/stressdisk with a particular (or particular type of) USB thumb drive? tl;dr whilst trying to test the flash device on USB at da0, there was _unexpected thrashing_ of the hard disk drive at ada0 From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sun Jan 3 11:07:55 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 072F34CDD31 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2021 11:07:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uqs@freebsd.org) Received: from acme.spoerlein.net (acme.spoerlein.net [IPv6:2a05:fc87:1:5::15]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "www.spoerlein.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D7wwB47wcz4m44 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2021 11:07:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uqs@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (acme.spoerlein.net [IPv6:2a05:fc87:1:5:0:0:0:15]) by acme.spoerlein.net (8.16.1/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 103B7iE0078636 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 3 Jan 2021 12:07:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from uqs@freebsd.org) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2021 12:07:44 +0100 From: Ulrich =?utf-8?B?U3DDtnJsZWlu?= To: Graham Perrin Cc: FreeBSD Current , Michael Gmelin Subject: Re: Finding a commit in cgit, given output from uname -a Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: Graham Perrin , FreeBSD Current , Michael Gmelin References: <8C3C23B7-18EC-43FA-A0C3-370E79829A9A@grem.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/2.0.1 (2020-11-14) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D7wwB47wcz4m44 X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.00 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[freebsd.org]; ASN(0.00)[asn:39540, ipnet:2a05:fc87::/32, country:CH] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2021 11:07:55 -0000 On Sat, 2021-01-02 at 19:21:44 +0000, Graham Perrin wrote: >On 02/01/2021 18:53, Michael Gmelin wrote: > >>> On 2. Jan 2021, at 19:44, Graham Perrin wrote: >>> >>> FreeBSD mowa219-gjp4-8570p 13.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 13.0-CURRENT #0 main-c530-g8b4c3a03f: Fri Jan 1 15:27:15 GMT 2021 root@mowa219-gjp4-8570p:/usr/obj/usr/src/freebsd-current/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC-NODEBUG amd64 >>> >>> finds nothing. >>> >>> Am I missing something? >> Remove “g” from the hash. >> >> -m > > >Thank you! > >I had bookmarked > >without noticing the accuracy of Ed Maste's ASCII (pointing at the first >character _after_ the g) and >, >which wondered about a typo. > >Now I see: > > > >Probably an obvious question, does the 'g' signify Git? Yes, from git-describe(1): With something like git.git current tree, I get: [torvalds@g5 git]$ git describe parent v1.0.4-14-g2414721 i.e. the current head of my "parent" branch is based on v1.0.4, but since it has a few commits on top of that, describe has added the number of additional commits ("14") and an abbreviated object name for the commit itself ("2414721") at the end. The number of additional commits is the number of commits which would be displayed by "git log v1.0.4..parent". The hash suffix is "-g" + unambiguous abbreviation for the tip commit of parent (which was 2414721b194453f058079d897d13c4e377f92dc6). The "g" prefix stands for "git" and is used to allow describing the version of a software depending on the SCM the software is managed with. This is useful in an environment where people may use different SCMs. Mercurial of course cannot use 'h', as that is a valid char in hex and could be confused with the hash itself :( hth Uli From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sun Jan 3 12:33:12 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31F464D0C20 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2021 12:33:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (mailman.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7ypc001Jz4rrl for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2021 12:33:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id F32D54D0D84; Sun, 3 Jan 2021 12:33:11 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2EEF4D0B33 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2021 12:33:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from mx.catwhisker.org (mx.catwhisker.org [107.204.234.170]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D7ypb0Q6fz4rph for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2021 12:33:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.16.1/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 103CX9P9096913 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2021 12:33:09 GMT (envelope-from david@albert.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 103CX9gf096912 for current@freebsd.org; Sun, 3 Jan 2021 04:33:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2021 04:33:08 -0800 From: David Wolfskill To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Blank ttyv0 on reboot after update from c255519-g8929690a6359 tp c255545-g82397d791966 Message-ID: Reply-To: current@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="DFJA1wOWpxWyMqD/" Content-Disposition: inline X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D7ypb0Q6fz4rph X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.40 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[current@freebsd.org]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[107.204.234.170:from]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[david]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:107.204.234.170]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[current@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[107.204.234.170:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[catwhisker.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7018, ipnet:107.192.0.0/12, country:US]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[current]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2021 12:33:12 -0000 --DFJA1wOWpxWyMqD/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is on my laptop. No clue yet -- I'll start looking at the changes once the rest of my smoke-test is done, but it seemed to boot OK & switch to graphics mode so I have some thing I can still use. Yesterday: FreeBSD g1-55.catwhisker.org 13.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 13.0-CURRENT #108 main-c2= 55519-g8929690a6359-dirty: Sat Jan 2 04:47:14 PST 2021 root@g1-55.catw= hisker.org:/common/S4/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/CANARY amd64 1300133 130= 0133 Today: FreeBSD g1-55.catwhisker.org 13.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 13.0-CURRENT #109 main-c2= 55545-g82397d791966-dirty: Sun Jan 3 04:19:03 PST 2021 root@g1-55.catw= hisker.org:/common/S4/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/CANARY amd64 1300133 130= 0133 Peace, david --=20 David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org An election becomes "disputed" merely when any party claims a disagreement about it, no matter how evidence-free, specious, absurd, or ridiculous. See https://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. --DFJA1wOWpxWyMqD/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGTBAEBCgB9FiEE4owz2QxMJyaxAefyQLJg+bY2PckFAl/xuYRfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEUy OEMzM0Q5MEM0QzI3MjZCMTAxRTdGMjQwQjI2MEY5QjYzNjNEQzkACgkQQLJg+bY2 Pck3VQf/acrS3YGe04YWo9ZMYTTGG9hrn+4efI98DiBh9wYYZB/9wOKZ+TGhg4AA eY7nm8vXnm8jhhsC9tpi83Q7a/7Z0JF8jk/lNIVZM7E66DP3tEaEcsTJxUFMTfRu Z36gj8iXRjGS+F/QSyL7CIBzBR07MYfwOYHMlEj+DIGPXpL4+xHUnvsPtfzgJZli gMsCh2Y8nORElraSBwospRUOldMGvIzwMdHpZD5yDUwW5xLnUQxbxZu/itSxc4T6 N6MRcAfuSXBgmYWrYM/6+qm5SNXbkKw7j2vxqoHTZ1TFKUm3WK8yeTLChjQNs3GX D3w6X8D/fY0i/VbkTSY+vVG4Pf4eQw== =q9Oz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --DFJA1wOWpxWyMqD/-- From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sun Jan 3 12:44:24 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48DB54D0F61 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2021 12:44:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tsoome@me.com) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D7z3W73S4z4s82 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2021 12:44:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tsoome@me.com) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id F00834D0DFE; Sun, 3 Jan 2021 12:44:23 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFC704D0F5F for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2021 12:44:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tsoome@me.com) Received: from pv50p00im-ztdg10011301.me.com (pv50p00im-ztdg10011301.me.com [17.58.6.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D7z3W5x0Pz4s81 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2021 12:44:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tsoome@me.com) Received: from nazgul.lan (148-52-235-80.sta.estpak.ee [80.235.52.148]) by pv50p00im-ztdg10011301.me.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3F1447601E0 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2021 12:44:16 +0000 (UTC) From: Toomas Soome Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.40.0.2.32\)) Subject: Re: Blank ttyv0 on reboot after update from c255519-g8929690a6359 tp c255545-g82397d791966 Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2021 14:44:13 +0200 References: To: current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.40.0.2.32) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.343, 18.0.737 definitions=2021-01-03_05:2020-12-31, 2021-01-03 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=332 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-2006250000 definitions=main-2101030079 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D7z3W5x0Pz4s81 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2021 12:44:24 -0000 > On 3. Jan 2021, at 14:33, David Wolfskill = wrote: >=20 > This is on my laptop. >=20 > No clue yet -- I'll start looking at the changes once the rest of my > smoke-test is done, but it seemed to boot OK & switch to graphics mode > so I have some thing I can still use. >=20 > Yesterday: > FreeBSD g1-55.catwhisker.org 13.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 13.0-CURRENT #108 = main-c255519-g8929690a6359-dirty: Sat Jan 2 04:47:14 PST 2021 = root@g1-55.catwhisker.org:/common/S4/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/CANARY = amd64 1300133 1300133 >=20 >=20 > Today: > FreeBSD g1-55.catwhisker.org 13.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 13.0-CURRENT #109 = main-c255545-g82397d791966-dirty: Sun Jan 3 04:19:03 PST 2021 = root@g1-55.catwhisker.org:/common/S4/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/CANARY = amd64 1300133 1300133 >=20 >=20 > Peace, > david > --=20 > David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org > An election becomes "disputed" merely when any party claims a = disagreement > about it, no matter how evidence-free, specious, absurd, or = ridiculous. >=20 > See https://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. Hi! Do you have more details (You can mail me directly)? there was one more = such case=E2=80=A6 thanks, toomas= From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sun Jan 3 14:57:51 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C8D84D41C9 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2021 14:57:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rmacklem@uoguelph.ca) Received: from CAN01-QB1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-qb1can01on062b.outbound.protection.outlook.com [IPv6:2a01:111:f400:fe5c::62b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "GlobalSign Organization Validation CA - SHA256 - G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D821V1nGMz3GZZ for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2021 14:57:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rmacklem@uoguelph.ca) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; s=arcselector9901; d=microsoft.com; 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FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a01:111:f400::/48]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a01:111:f400:fe5c::62b:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[uoguelph.ca:dkim]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[uoguelph.ca:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[uoguelph.ca,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com,freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8075, ipnet:2a01:111:f000::/36, country:US]; ARC_ALLOW(-1.00)[microsoft.com:s=arcselector9901:i=1]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2021 14:57:51 -0000 Well, it depends on what "stressdisk" (never heard of it) does. If it: 1 - Reads a large non-sparse file on a UFS file system. 2 - Uses lseek(SEEK_DATA/SEEK_HOLE) with a small blocksize or copy_file_range(2) with a small length. (copy_file_range(2) does SEEK_DATA/SEEK_HOLE internally.) then maybe. Otherwise, not. rick ________________________________________ From: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org = on behalf of Graham Perrin Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2021 4:21 AM To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Bug 252358 - cp(1) of large files is causing 100% CPU utilization = and poor transfer of ~168M/minute CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the University of Guelph. Do= not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and kn= ow the content is safe. If in doubt, forward suspicious emails to IThelp@uo= guelph.ca On 02/01/2021 20:05, Matthias Apitz wrote: > Here we go:https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D252358 Thank you. I plan to build and install 82397d791966b09d344251bc709cd9db2b3a1902; ---- In the meantime: might 252358 be the cause of a peculiarity that I encountered, a week or so ago, whilst using sysutils/stressdisk with a particular (or particular type of) USB thumb drive? tl;dr whilst trying to test the flash device on USB at da0, there was _unexpected thrashing_ of the hard disk drive at ada0 _______________________________________________ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 11:35:38 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 873784D1D54 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 11:35:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartmann@walstatt.org) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8YTj27dtz4ZHW for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 11:35:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ohartmann@walstatt.org) X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from hermann.fritz.box ([77.191.26.71]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1ML9yc-1keAo11e6s-00IF0M for ; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 12:35:35 +0100 Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 12:35:28 +0100 From: "Hartmann, O." To: FreeBSD CURRENT Subject: CURRENT, usr/src on git, howto "mergemaster"? 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I did a full "mergemaster -CUFi" lately and did the same again, but when me= rgemaster ran the second (or n-th) time again, it stops by by the same non standard files= in etc edited by me. Is there a workaround and if so, please hint me to the announcement.= =20 Thanks in advance, a happy new year oh --Sig_/+TfrBvlYG93MUcD3=76_TSh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEARYIAB0WIQSy8IBxAPDkqVBaTJ44N1ZZPba5RwUCX/L9gAAKCRA4N1ZZPba5 RyeDAP0VJ1cCcIaBgTRluO4/yopS47/7ATEtHa9trN95WbDbswEAoMAq8IUZVnnz sh1Q94T7trtCjOby2/IYLd4oZcJUXw0= =bPBl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/+TfrBvlYG93MUcD3=76_TSh-- From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 12:29:45 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9EAF4D47CA for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 12:29:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from mx.catwhisker.org (mx.catwhisker.org [107.204.234.170]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8Zh867skz4dXS for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 12:29:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.16.1/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 104CTgqZ013056; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 12:29:42 GMT (envelope-from david@albert.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 104CTgb9013055; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 04:29:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 04:29:42 -0800 From: David Wolfskill To: "Hartmann, O." Cc: FreeBSD CURRENT Subject: Re: CURRENT, usr/src on git, howto "mergemaster"? Message-ID: Reply-To: current@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: current@freebsd.org, "Hartmann, O." , FreeBSD CURRENT References: <20210104123512.0f5e1b01@hermann.fritz.box> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="catO1b3MSlfw8k7j" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210104123512.0f5e1b01@hermann.fritz.box> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8Zh867skz4dXS X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.40 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[current@freebsd.org]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[107.204.234.170:from]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[david]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:107.204.234.170]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; REPLYTO_DOM_NEQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[catwhisker.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[107.204.234.170:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7018, ipnet:107.192.0.0/12, country:US]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 12:29:45 -0000 --catO1b3MSlfw8k7j Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 12:35:28PM +0100, Hartmann, O. wrote: > Now, since /usr/src has been siwtched to git on several boxes and the for= mer svn tag > $FreeBSD$ seem not valid/useful anymore, how am I (or any other here) sup= posed to > "mergemaster"? >=20 > I did a full "mergemaster -CUFi" lately and did the same again, but when = mergemaster ran > the second (or n-th) time again, it stops by by the same non standard fil= es in etc edited > by me. Is there a workaround and if so, please hint me to the announcemen= t.=20 >=20 > Thanks in advance, > a happy new year > .... After trying to use mergemaster for a couple of weeks (after the switch to sources from git, vs. svn) of daily tracking of head & stable/12 on a pair of machines (and weekly tracking of stable/12 on another 4), I gave up and switched to etcupdate. Note that each of mergemaster and etcupdate has a "-p" flag; it is functionally equivalent between the two, but called slightly differently: * mergemaster: 'Pre-buildworld mode' * etcupdate: '=E2=80=9Cpre-world=E2=80=9D mode' And note that per src/UPDATING, "mergemaster -Fp" is invoked after "make buildworld" but before "make installworld" (under "To rebuild everything and install it on the current system.", under "COMMON ITEMS:"). Caveat: Since the switch, I have yet to encounter a case where I needed to merge a change in (e.g., because of a newly-created user, or there was a commit to /etc/crontab or /etc/newsyslog.conf). I may find things rather "more interesting" when that happens; we shall see. Peace, david --=20 David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org An election becomes "disputed" merely when any party claims a disagreement about it, no matter how evidence-free, specious, absurd, or ridiculous. 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Mon, 04 Jan 2021 04:29:44 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Sergey Dyatko Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 15:29:33 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: 13-current panic To: Current FreeBSD X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8ZhB1NJtz4dDk X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.84 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.84)[-0.836]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::12f:from]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::12f:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::12f:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 12:29:46 -0000 Hi, I have multiple servers running 13-CURRENT and after upgrade to r368448 the following panic began to appear on them: vpan1c() at vpanic.Ox1b2/frame Oxfffffe019b32ffa0 panic() at panic.0x43/frame Oxfffffe019330000 trap_fatal() at trap_fatal.0x387/frame Oxfffffe019b330060 trap_pfault() at trap_pfault.0x4f/frame Oxfffffe019b3300c0 trap() at trap.0x27d/frame Oxfffffe019b3301d0 calltrap() at calltrap+0x8/frame Oxfffffe019b3301d0 --- trap 0xc. rip = Oxffffffff80c8b3c8. rsp = Oxfffffe019b3302a0, rbp = Oxfffffe 019b330310 --- m_copydata() at m_copydata+0x58/frame Oxfffffe019b330310 tcp_output() at tcp_output+0x100b/frame Oxfffffe019b3304b0 tcp_do_segment() at tcp_do_segment+0x2867/frame Oxfffffe019b3305a0 tcp_input() at tcp_input.Oxabe/frame Oxfffffe019b3306d0 ip_input() at ip_input+0x125/frame Oxfffffe019b330760 netisr_dispatch_src() at netisr_dispatch_src+0xca/frame Oxfffffe019b3307b0 ether_demux() at ether demux+0x138/frame Oxfffffe019b3307e0 ether_nh_input() at ether_nh_input+0x351/frame Oxfffffe019b330840 netisr_dispatch_src() at netisr dispatch_src+0xca/frame Oxfffffe019b330890 ether_input() at ether_input+0x69/frame Oxfffffe019b3308f0 tcp_flush_out_le() at tcp_flush_out_le+0x211/frame Oxfffffe019b330910 tcp_push_and_replace() at tcp_push_and_replace+0x30/frame Oxfffffe019b330950 tcp_lro_flush() at tcp_lro_flush+0x4c/frame Oxfffffe019b330980 tcp_lro_flush_all() at tcp_lro_flush_all+0x13b/frame Oxfffffe019b3309c0 iflib_rxeof() at iflib_rxeof+Oxc7a/frame Oxfffffe019b330ac0 _task_fn_rx() at _task_fn_rx+0x72/frame Oxfffffe019b330b00 gtaskqueue_run_locked() at gtaskqueue_run_locked+0x15d/frame Oxfffffe019b330b80 gtaskqueue thread_loop() at gtaskqueue thread loop+0xac/frame Oxfffffe019b330bb0 fork_exit() at fork_exit+0x7e/frame Oxfffffe019b330bf0 fork trampoline() at fork_trampoline+0xe/frame Oxfffffe019b330bf0 -- trap O. rip = O. rsp = O. rbp = 0 --- it is fileservers with zfs+nginx, higher is the result of recognizing picture to text, just in case (there are was many recognision mistakes) screenshot: https://gyazo.com/116e9666daf0dac6d09628d1585596fa I can run commands in the debugger when panic reappears if needed From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 12:57:44 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E145D4D5537; 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Mon, 4 Jan 2021 12:57:43 +0000 (UTC) From: Matthew Seaman Subject: Re: CURRENT, usr/src on git, howto "mergemaster"? To: current@freebsd.org, "Hartmann, O." , FreeBSD CURRENT References: <20210104123512.0f5e1b01@hermann.fritz.box> Message-ID: <3137a3ce-50c8-bee5-6a15-7701e3281500@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 12:57:43 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 12:57:44 -0000 On 04/01/2021 12:29, David Wolfskill wrote: > Caveat: Since the switch, I have yet to encounter a case where I needed > to merge a change in (e.g., because of a newly-created user, or there > was a commit to /etc/crontab or /etc/newsyslog.conf). I may find things > rather "more interesting" when that happens; we shall see. The process of merging changes in etcupdate(1) is essentially identical to merging in mergemaster(1) -- the difference being that typically etcupdate(1) will run to completion without any user intervention needed, or else it will flag up that there are unresolved differences to merge and flag to the user to run `etcupdate resolve` as a separate command. This is much more time efficient than the typical mergemaster(1) procedure, and I find it lends itself much more effectively to automation through eg. ansible. (ie. you can just run the first `etcupdate` through automation across all of your server inventory, and then go round and manually resolve anything that needs it.) Cheers, Matthew From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 13:22:13 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9020F4D602D; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 13:22:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com) Received: from aibo.runbox.com (aibo.runbox.com [91.220.196.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8brj3D1tz4jBL; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 13:22:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com) Received: from [10.9.9.127] (helo=rmmprod05.runbox) by mailtransmit03.runbox with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kwPoI-0004cQ-3j; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 14:22:10 +0100 Received: from mail by rmmprod05.runbox with local (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kwPoI-0007Gk-2V; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 14:22:10 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [Authenticated alias (650894)] by runbox.com with http (RMM6); Mon, 04 Jan 2021 13:22:10 GMT From: "Jeffrey Bouquet" To: "Matthew Seaman" CC: "current" , "ohartmann" , "FreeBSD CURRENT" Subject: Re: CURRENT, usr/src on git, howto "mergemaster"? Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 05:22:10 -0800 (PST) X-RMM-Aliasid: 650894 X-Mailer: RMM6 In-Reply-To: <3137a3ce-50c8-bee5-6a15-7701e3281500@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8brj3D1tz4jBL X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 13:22:13 -0000 On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 12:57:43 +0000, Matthew Seaman wro= te: > On 04/01/2021 12:29, David Wolfskill wrote: >=20 > > Caveat: Since the switch, I have yet to encounter a case where I needed > > to merge a change in (e.g., because of a newly-created user, or there > > was a commit to /etc/crontab or /etc/newsyslog.conf). I may find things > > rather "more interesting" when that happens; we shall see. >=20 > The process of merging changes in etcupdate(1) is essentially identical=20 > to merging in mergemaster(1) -- the difference being that typically=20 > etcupdate(1) will run to completion without any user intervention=20 > needed, or else it will flag up that there are unresolved differences to= =20 > merge and flag to the user to run `etcupdate resolve` as a separate comma= nd. >=20 > This is much more time efficient than the typical mergemaster(1)=20 > procedure, and I find it lends itself much more effectively to=20 > automation through eg. ansible. (ie. you can just run the first=20 > `etcupdate` through automation across all of your server inventory, and=20 > then go round and manually resolve anything that needs it.) >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Matthew >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" after checking out stable/12 with git, here a # cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/mergemaster # sh ./mergemaster.sh -piPcv and then answering 'l' for left for most merges it seems to have sufficed.=20 This was before installworld.=20 In case that helps. I keep that command parameter in /etc/motd for each time around lookup.=20 From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 13:32:09 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04C7F4D63CD for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 13:32:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8c48564Kz4jYL for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 13:32:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id AF37F4D6376; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 13:32:08 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEFCA4D6595 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 13:32:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from mx.catwhisker.org (mx.catwhisker.org [107.204.234.170]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8c4830hxz4jsj for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 13:32:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.16.1/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 104DW5xb013554; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 13:32:05 GMT (envelope-from david@albert.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 104DW5Xl013553; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 05:32:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 05:32:05 -0800 From: David Wolfskill To: Jeffrey Bouquet Cc: current Subject: Re: CURRENT, usr/src on git, howto "mergemaster"? Message-ID: Reply-To: current@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: current@freebsd.org, Jeffrey Bouquet References: <3137a3ce-50c8-bee5-6a15-7701e3281500@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0KiyPS8rFeTREXiH" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8c4830hxz4jsj X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 13:32:09 -0000 --0KiyPS8rFeTREXiH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 05:22:10AM -0800, Jeffrey Bouquet wrote: > ...=20 > after checking out stable/12 with git, here a > # cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/mergemaster > # sh ./mergemaster.sh -piPcv >=20 > and then answering 'l' for left for most merges > it seems to have sufficed.=20 > This was before installworld.=20 Yes. However, the salient issue for me is that with the Ids in the file, on subsequent invocations, mergemaster would leave the file as-is unless the Id changed. This wass usually on the order of a few times per year for a given file. Now that the Ids are no longer present, mergemaster will now prompt on every invocation for each file locally modified on each machine. This amounts to about a dozen opportunities to screw things up for each machine daily for me; that's just not ... reasonable. So far, etcupdate seems to be working out OK for me (as in "not prompting for each of the files in question on each invocation"). > In case that helps. > I keep that command parameter in /etc/motd for each time around lookup.= =20 > .... :-) Peace, david --=20 David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org An election becomes "disputed" merely when any party claims a disagreement about it, no matter how evidence-free, specious, absurd, or ridiculous. 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References: <3137a3ce-50c8-bee5-6a15-7701e3281500@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: --M6YBqSbSSisHDXlZKpgImItLUuk6E2rXr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable W dniu 04.01.2021 o=A014:32, David Wolfskill pisze: > On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 05:22:10AM -0800, Jeffrey Bouquet wrote: >> ...=20 >> after checking out stable/12 with git, here a >> # cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/mergemaster >> # sh ./mergemaster.sh -piPcv >> >> and then answering 'l' for left for most merges >> it seems to have sufficed.=20 >> This was before installworld.=20 >=20 > Yes. However, the salient issue for me is that with the Ids in the > file, on subsequent invocations, mergemaster would leave the file as-is= > unless the Id changed. This wass usually on the order of a few times > per year for a given file. >=20 > Now that the Ids are no longer present, mergemaster will now prompt on > every invocation for each file locally modified on each machine. >=20 > This amounts to about a dozen opportunities to screw things up for each= > machine daily for me; that's just not ... reasonable. >=20 > So far, etcupdate seems to be working out OK for me (as in "not > prompting for each of the files in question on each invocation"). >=20 >> In case that helps. >> I keep that command parameter in /etc/motd for each time around lookup= =2E=20 >> .... $FreeBSD$ tags can be regenerated locally with Git clean and smudge filters[1] applied on local git repository. This helps to keep the track of files updated by mergemaster(8) or etcupdate(8). The filters should be applied to only the files important for mergemagster. Applying filters to the whole repository degrades performance. [1]https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Customizing-Git-Git-Attributes Regards, --=20 Marek Zarychta --M6YBqSbSSisHDXlZKpgImItLUuk6E2rXr-- --2SISRk4qiywZhQwf4pm653yzA2DEHdFrk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="OpenPGP_signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="OpenPGP_signature" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- wsB5BAABCAAjFiEEMOqvKm6wKvS1/ZeCdZ/s//1SjSwFAl/zPHQFAwAAAAAACgkQdZ/s//1SjSya kwgAq3gvk6eAtvm0yCl/mbA9ZBprr5YIvapiRVz1/4m9U5y7spmQb2rvBhAepIEZ84NUIOQZ9/hD EGSufkYviGv4dWZz47vbL3C2DMm1g1pO6c1v/8L7OBVh+M1IcQDu4WCUGnp2xPPR3SInjjt/700d mNhY9CW30E9jIAg3SJVHGA6Rz8pfBicnCPoU5xD3mwIN+JE6YZo4oSSTgvKvvp3MAQC+XPjrhMoi PmKA1Wal1mgrVOwrcKlIdgX2B3005v2R+RiSlV/9IycBiKwg/KSD0AVRXeB0kMGtR2IX8MVZWyL/ ZFZ6x5PNok3MXTrYxVowWVvqLlbdGUWjCKOU6fru1w== =6Kzs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --2SISRk4qiywZhQwf4pm653yzA2DEHdFrk-- From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 16:06:43 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31EF54DA6B0 for ; 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Message-Id: Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 08:06:33 -0800 Cc: david@catwhisker.org, ohartmann@walstatt.org To: FreeBSD Current X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.40.0.2.32) References: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8gVV1xwCz3C5N X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.50 / 15.00]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[98.137.64.31:from]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[1.000]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[98.137.64.31:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.64.31:from]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.64.31:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 16:06:43 -0000 David Wolfskill david at catwhisker.org wrote on Mon Jan 4 12:29:45 UTC 2021 : > After trying to use mergemaster for a couple of weeks (after the = switch > to sources from git, vs. svn) of daily tracking of head & stable/12 on = a > pair of machines (and weekly tracking of stable/12 on another 4), I = gave > up and switched to etcupdate. >=20 > Note that each of mergemaster and etcupdate has a "-p" flag; it is > functionally equivalent between the two, but called slightly > differently: >=20 > * mergemaster: 'Pre-buildworld mode' >=20 > * etcupdate: '=E2=80=9Cpre-world=E2=80=9D mode' >=20 > And note that per src/UPDATING, "mergemaster -Fp" is invoked after = "make > buildworld" but before "make installworld" (under "To rebuild = everything > and install it on the current system.", under "COMMON ITEMS:"). I'm still experimenting but man etcupdate reports: QUOTE Bootstrapping The etcupdate utility may need to be bootstrapped before it can be = used. The diff command will fail with an error about a missing reference = tree if bootstrapping is needed. Bootstrapping etcupdate requires a source tree that matches the = currently installed world. The easiest way to ensure this is to bootstrap etcupdate before updating the source tree to start the next world = upgrade cycle. First, generate a reference tree: etcupdate extract Second, use the diff command to compare the reference tree to your current files in /etc. Undesired differences should be removed = using an editor, patch(1), or by copying files from the reference tree = (located at /var/db/etcupdate/current by default) If the tree at /usr/src is already newer than the currently = installed world, a new tree matching the currently installed world can be = checked out to a temporary location. The reference tree for etcupdate can = then be generated via: etcupdate extract -s /path/to/tree The diff command can be used as above to remove undesired = differences. Afterwards, the changes in the tree at /usr/src can be merged via a regular merge. END QUOTE I do not remember mergemaster having a bootstrap stage in setting it up, a stage that should be executed before /usr/src (or whatever) is updated. So the procedures are different overall. =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 16:14:27 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9733B4DAE81 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 16:14:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-qk1-x72a.google.com (mail-qk1-x72a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::72a]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8ggR37Zqz3D7D for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 16:14:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-qk1-x72a.google.com with SMTP id 19so23805622qkm.8 for ; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 08:14:27 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=geIkV/S22vbfP8EpNdjqbzrY1n/bXTRRVUcOmUgffqY=; b=OmAD0G6bSvcPXMOU2D7lG2HtitJMuH1sg5+5vns1sjlS2gtLy0PnRNZ8G4dlsyfqBn BhF+Iq+HI3lDS3+8Et65J/m2uxq+1dyc6uUH7glpvQmXtC4hsTwAkSEvLXRMioXdXzKN 7PSNuEaKv/o0wqPgop2kCZ0EmpXHjYga7ETTGZRNCOke3ojS5iVfy8j3qvztoygfFB0O zyDVjZnm4YCSMEWOEmHCdBSPuMiBFWkhe8q0XMqSUny8X7Yrx+augAkz7S/9paQ9SWrq fMDN1UHKUyUX2eXXRej9OrHkU7l+eKznkfU0CZLUf+ooSuAtWQWJP6GhstSUimsqBFiR ghTw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530TeT/13xug0R6OVeRI2MkyzeT+056SOkXUGs06iWEaZXUUtxFF mN7FXccqJsRMC1vScFj8N1K4nn8EbZIq7vocLLYx0w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy+NBkljTOVf9PT1rOkPoFzeJQQ1541Dg11qTS3EVLFCGAtfxJABuDcITBJxiXZnG3lT1c1bboOkriD4SH7etc= X-Received: by 2002:a37:8505:: with SMTP id h5mr50569610qkd.44.1609776866466; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 08:14:26 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20210104123512.0f5e1b01@hermann.fritz.box> <3137a3ce-50c8-bee5-6a15-7701e3281500@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <3137a3ce-50c8-bee5-6a15-7701e3281500@FreeBSD.org> From: Warner Losh Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 09:14:15 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: CURRENT, usr/src on git, howto "mergemaster"? To: Matthew Seaman Cc: FreeBSD Current , "Hartmann, O." , FreeBSD CURRENT X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8ggR37Zqz3D7D X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 16:14:27 -0000 On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 5:57 AM Matthew Seaman wrote: > On 04/01/2021 12:29, David Wolfskill wrote: > > > Caveat: Since the switch, I have yet to encounter a case where I needed > > to merge a change in (e.g., because of a newly-created user, or there > > was a commit to /etc/crontab or /etc/newsyslog.conf). I may find things > > rather "more interesting" when that happens; we shall see. > > The process of merging changes in etcupdate(1) is essentially identical > to merging in mergemaster(1) -- the difference being that typically > etcupdate(1) will run to completion without any user intervention > needed, or else it will flag up that there are unresolved differences to > merge and flag to the user to run `etcupdate resolve` as a separate > command. > etcupdate does a full three merge, while mergemaster fakes it in a number of ways. etcupdate directly keeps track of the resolutions, which is why $FreeBSD$ doesn't matter so much to it. mergemaster is deprecated and will likely be removed from the system because it has no maintainer and is quite a bit harder to keep working than etcupdate. Warner From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 16:14:39 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D03664DAD23 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 16:14:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@cretaforce.gr) Received: from relay2.cretaforce.gr (relay2.cretaforce.gr [195.201.253.149]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.cretaforce.gr", Issuer "RapidSSL RSA CA 2018" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8ggf3M0vz3DPH for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 16:14:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@cretaforce.gr) Received: from server1.cretaforce.gr (server1.cretaforce.gr [138.201.248.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.cretaforce.gr", Issuer "RapidSSL RSA CA 2018" (verified OK)) by smtp2.cretaforce.gr (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E8621FA93 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:14:36 +0200 (EET) Received: from macbook-air.fritz.box (athedsl-4430180.home.otenet.gr [79.129.137.84]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: chris@cretaforce.gr) by server1.cretaforce.gr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 507E52730A for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:14:36 +0200 (EET) From: Christos Chatzaras Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.40.0.2.32\)) Subject: Re: CURRENT, usr/src on git, howto "mergemaster"? Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:14:35 +0200 References: To: FreeBSD Current In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.40.0.2.32) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8ggf3M0vz3DPH X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.10 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:195.201.253.149]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cretaforce.gr:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[79.129.137.84:received]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[195.201.253.149:from]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:195.201.0.0/16, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cretaforce.gr:s=cretaforce]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[chris]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cretaforce.gr]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[195.201.253.149:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[195.201.253.149:from]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[cretaforce.gr:dkim]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 16:14:39 -0000 > I do not remember mergemaster having a bootstrap stage in setting > it up, a stage that should be executed before /usr/src (or whatever) > is updated. So the procedures are different overall. etcupdate does a 3-way merge. What I did to replace mergemaster with etcupdate was: rm -fr /usr/src svnup release etcupdate extract rm -fr /usr/src gitup release cd /usr/src make buildworld make buildkernel make installkernel etcupdate -p make installworld etcupdate make -DBATCH_DELETE_OLD_FILES delete-old make -DBATCH_DELETE_OLD_FILES delete-old-libs shutdown -r now From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 16:24:20 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC7124DB33F for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 16:24:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from warlock@phouka1.phouka.net) Received: from phouka1.phouka.net (phouka1.phouka.net [107.170.196.116]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "phouka.net", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8gtq6w9Tz3FMR for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 16:24:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from warlock@phouka1.phouka.net) Received: from phouka1.phouka.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phouka1.phouka.net (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 104GMueZ089206 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 08:22:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from warlock@phouka1.phouka.net) Received: (from warlock@localhost) by phouka1.phouka.net (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 104GMuHH089205 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 08:22:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from warlock) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 08:22:56 -0800 From: John Kennedy To: Current FreeBSD Subject: boot loader blank screen Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8gtq6w9Tz3FMR X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.20 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[107.170.196.116:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[phouka.net]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[107.170.196.116:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[0.998]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[warlock@phouka.net,warlock@phouka1.phouka.net]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14061, ipnet:107.170.192.0/18, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[warlock@phouka.net,warlock@phouka1.phouka.net]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 16:24:20 -0000 This is a little weird. Somewhere between 13.0-g2ff66a915526 (Dec 30th) and -gd03fd8ede2c4 (Dec 29th), I've lost the screen in the boot loader. This is really weird because I didn't update the boot loader (in quite a while, actually), but I suppose it might drag some stuff off of the disk and misbehave. But the system boots, presumably after the countdown that I can't see, I just have to SSH in from a different machine to tweak things. Just no screen at all past the GELI encrypted disk password prompt (and some usual noise as it complains about some padding that I've seen forever). I used to just upgrade the boot loader around ZFS upgrades, and I haven't done that since OpenZFS got merged. I just got overly conservative there and may have missed the "all clear" for all combinations of ZFS and the bootloader recognizing them. The git logs in /usr/src aren't time-sequential, so maybe I shouldn't trust those dates above (I pulled it ~Jan 3rd and let it compile overnight), but I'm going to repull all the sources and recompile, just in case. I might have initiall pulled it during the git conversion and maybe it is confused. From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 16:30:51 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB5514DB919 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 16:30:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tsoome@me.com) Received: from pv50p00im-ztdg10021901.me.com (pv50p00im-ztdg10021901.me.com [17.58.6.55]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8h2M12VFz3GPb for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 16:30:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tsoome@me.com) Received: from nazgul.lan (148-52-235-80.sta.estpak.ee [80.235.52.148]) by pv50p00im-ztdg10021901.me.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DBBD8880327; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 16:30:40 +0000 (UTC) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.40.0.2.32\)) Subject: Re: boot loader blank screen From: Toomas Soome In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:30:38 +0200 Cc: Current FreeBSD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <83EB3B04-EAE8-4EC3-820B-2F5C3BADE948@me.com> References: To: John Kennedy X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.40.0.2.32) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.343, 18.0.737 definitions=2021-01-04_10:2021-01-04, 2021-01-04 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-2006250000 definitions=main-2101040107 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8h2M12VFz3GPb X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.50 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[me.com]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:17.58.0.0/16]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[me.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[me.com,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[80.235.52.148:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[me.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:714, ipnet:17.58.0.0/20, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[me.com:s=1a1hai]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[tsoome]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[me.com:dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_VERYGOOD(0.00)[17.58.6.55:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 16:30:51 -0000 > On 4. Jan 2021, at 18:22, John Kennedy wrote: >=20 > This is a little weird. >=20 > Somewhere between 13.0-g2ff66a915526 (Dec 30th) and -gd03fd8ede2c4 = (Dec 29th), > I've lost the screen in the boot loader. This is really weird because = I > didn't update the boot loader (in quite a while, actually), but I = suppose it > might drag some stuff off of the disk and misbehave. >=20 > But the system boots, presumably after the countdown that I can't see, = I just > have to SSH in from a different machine to tweak things. Just no = screen at > all past the GELI encrypted disk password prompt (and some usual noise = as > it complains about some padding that I've seen forever). >=20 > I used to just upgrade the boot loader around ZFS upgrades, and I = haven't > done that since OpenZFS got merged. I just got overly conservative = there > and may have missed the "all clear" for all combinations of ZFS and = the > bootloader recognizing them. >=20 > The git logs in /usr/src aren't time-sequential, so maybe I shouldn't = trust > those dates above (I pulled it ~Jan 3rd and let it compile overnight), = but > I'm going to repull all the sources and recompile, just in case. I = might > have initiall pulled it during the git conversion and maybe it is = confused. >=20 hi! Yes, it is known defect, and I=E2=80=99m searching for cause; the issue = is with /boot/loader and BIOS text mode (unfortunately I have the usual = =E2=80=98but it is working for me=E2=80=99 case). For workaround, you = can try to either: 1 (blind) press esc to get out of boot menu, then = enter: vbe on; another option is to add hw.vga.textmode=3D=E2=80=9C0=E2=80= =9D to loader.conf. Sorry for confusion, toomas From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 16:36:07 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B5244DBE86; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 16:36:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zarychtam@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl) Received: from plan-b.pwste.edu.pl (plan-b.pwste.edu.pl [IPv6:2001:678:618::40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "plan-b.pwste.edu.pl", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8h8Q5hxWz3Gsb; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 16:36:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zarychtam@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl) Received: from fomalhaut.potoki.eu ([IPv6:2001:470:71:d47:e50a:9397:cf91:e1d6]) (authenticated bits=0) by plan-b.pwste.edu.pl (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPSA id 104Ga1dN033144 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 4 Jan 2021 17:36:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from zarychtam@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: plan-b.pwste.edu.pl: Host [IPv6:2001:470:71:d47:e50a:9397:cf91:e1d6] claimed to be fomalhaut.potoki.eu To: Warner Losh Cc: FreeBSD Current , FreeBSD CURRENT References: <20210104123512.0f5e1b01@hermann.fritz.box> <3137a3ce-50c8-bee5-6a15-7701e3281500@FreeBSD.org> From: Marek Zarychta Subject: Re: CURRENT, usr/src on git, howto "mergemaster"? Message-ID: <9d10b86a-9ef6-a9cd-786c-5eeb33ececbd@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 17:36:00 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="JmsxH9BafeuesytbTDWtNwL1FkQ09JHft" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8h8Q5hxWz3Gsb X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 16:36:07 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --JmsxH9BafeuesytbTDWtNwL1FkQ09JHft Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="TNLGUHpgf7dKOmCfkeYDZF88aceVGITVZ"; protected-headers="v1" From: Marek Zarychta To: Warner Losh Cc: FreeBSD Current , FreeBSD CURRENT Message-ID: <9d10b86a-9ef6-a9cd-786c-5eeb33ececbd@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> Subject: Re: CURRENT, usr/src on git, howto "mergemaster"? References: <20210104123512.0f5e1b01@hermann.fritz.box> <3137a3ce-50c8-bee5-6a15-7701e3281500@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: --TNLGUHpgf7dKOmCfkeYDZF88aceVGITVZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable W dniu 04.01.2021 o=C2=A017:14, Warner Losh pisze: > etcupdate does a full three merge, while mergemaster fakes it in a numb= er > of ways. etcupdate directly keeps track of the resolutions, which is wh= y > $FreeBSD$ doesn't matter so much to it. >=20 > mergemaster is deprecated and will likely be removed from the system > because it has no maintainer and is quite a bit harder to keep working = than > etcupdate. >=20 Please don't sacrifice mergemaster(8) for the successful transition to Git. The amount of feedback on the mailing list should give the core@ some idea of how widely mergemasted is still deployed. Some people just like to merge files side by side with pressing keys. Why innocent mergemaster(8) has to be a victim of switching to Git? Sacrifice please svnlite(1) - it became completely useless for HEAD and upcoming stable branches. 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I might > have initiall pulled it during the git conversion and maybe it is confused. This might be perfectly natural and just new to me, but when I look at the git logs this morning I see things like this (editing by me): commit e5df46055add3bcf074c9ba275ceb4481802ba04 (HEAD -> main, freebsd/main, freebsd/HEAD) Author: Emmanuel Vadot Date: Mon Jan 4 17:30:00 2021 +0100 commit f61a3898bb989edef7ca308043224e495ed78f64 Author: Emmanuel Vadot Date: Mon Dec 14 18:56:56 2020 +0100 commit b6cc69322a77fa778b00db873781be04f26bd2ee Author: Emmanuel Vadot Date: Tue Dec 15 13:50:00 2020 +0100 commit 4401fa9bf1a3f2a7f2ca04fae9291218e1ca56bf Author: Emmanuel Vadot Date: Mon Jan 4 16:23:10 2021 +0100 This is a fresh clone+pull off of anongit@git.FreeBSD.org:src.git. I've always assumed that the "Date:" there was when the commit happened, so they'd be increasing (most recent on top), but I suppose that you might have developers in branches that are committing to their branch at one point in time and it's getting merged into current (main) later, but the original date is preserved? I guess I only care because I was trying to use time to bisect the time I thought the problem might have been introduced. From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 16:58:44 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 351E44DC362 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 16:58:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8hfW15Z5z3JRK for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 16:58:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (v-critter.freebsd.dk [192.168.55.3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1BEF58A3CB; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 16:58:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 104GweSM094449 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 4 Jan 2021 16:58:40 GMT (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: (from phk@localhost) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 104Gwe8H094448; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 16:58:40 GMT (envelope-from phk) To: John Kennedy cc: Current FreeBSD Subject: Re: git non-time-sequential logs In-reply-to: From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <94446.1609779520.1@critter.freebsd.dk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 16:58:40 +0000 Message-ID: <94447.1609779520@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8hfW15Z5z3JRK X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.95 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[130.225.244.222:from]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[phk]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.dk]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[130.225.244.222:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.95)[-0.945]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[phk@phk.freebsd.dk,phk@critter.freebsd.dk]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:1835, ipnet:130.225.0.0/16, country:EU]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[phk@phk.freebsd.dk,phk@critter.freebsd.dk]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 16:58:44 -0000 -------- John Kennedy writes: > This might be perfectly natural and just new to me, but when I look at t= he > git logs this morning I see things like this (editing by me): > > Date: Mon Jan 4 17:30:00 2021 +0100 > Date: Mon Dec 14 18:56:56 2020 +0100 > Date: Tue Dec 15 13:50:00 2020 +0100 > Date: Mon Jan 4 16:23:10 2021 +0100 > > I've always assumed that the "Date:" there was when the commit happene= d, It is, but it is the time it was committed in the first git repos it was c= ommitted to, in this case the repos of the committer in question. Without taking a position on the merits of this design-choice, I just want to point out that it means that timestamps should be viewed very sceptically, since they depend on the *local* clock on somebodys computer, not on the central repos machine. -- = Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe = Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence= . From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 17:05:18 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B69E4DCF09 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 17:05:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asomers@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi1-f173.google.com (mail-oi1-f173.google.com [209.85.167.173]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8hp51xJxz3KR7 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 17:05:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asomers@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oi1-f173.google.com with SMTP id s2so32874004oij.2 for ; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 09:05:17 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=rJneXXSYqnrhistM+uhT0Go8Dc12UblwAM4c/Qzi0UQ=; b=DOPxlOFwlzym1URUNjr9lRHhz5WXUKRwF4ch5oEUW2CXI2qjFr5YC0usjnupo9mwQ0 91FE8+ccm0cmApMspmWFNTtI2R4gcNH9PRYQ2rbESSZXMw6sdzMKL5xNqV4Nz3kEis96 ChXUJUD7LJbcWyFAs1/6KBVwItqrt8GIuOJTWR36etemFgZXJdIEnVYnBnHfeZ5/3ZwX Zul4vODZoXC6fWNG8fj6LGQBOCx7cXNyQo/jhWg19ONPJ5W3LSsPrCJXnaKAwa5ZlKEM H0g4G47pSda4BzBMmPJ0hQLa3nbGZbIU4LM5c+Rls026HAskwheWHEG0GwstU1A91RjV JQWg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532z2HEo65BmAPydNT0QWTTwm5HCwfwpFiOzqDhqU4WUNNzVWkHG PeML3lbWXkiNm08K9QcSE94AZ44NM7KN2Gm9bM+baA3dVPA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy41I5LtYiZtmmGS8iMZ191qdhX3Oy1SOkqlifmMtJnfW1rE4vYKqjfZaxVOE6HxQTkFvpXadEejNojGJ2v72c= X-Received: by 2002:aca:dd09:: with SMTP id u9mr18766405oig.73.1609779916174; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 09:05:16 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <94447.1609779520@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: <94447.1609779520@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Alan Somers Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 10:05:05 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: git non-time-sequential logs To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: John Kennedy , Current FreeBSD X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8hp51xJxz3KR7 X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17:c]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[asomers@freebsd.org,asomers@gmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[209.85.167.173:from]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[asomers@freebsd.org,asomers@gmail.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[asomers]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[209.85.167.173:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[209.85.167.173:from]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[209.85.167.173:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 17:05:18 -0000 On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 9:58 AM Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > -------- > John Kennedy writes: > > > This might be perfectly natural and just new to me, but when I look at > the > > git logs this morning I see things like this (editing by me): > > > > Date: Mon Jan 4 17:30:00 2021 +0100 > > Date: Mon Dec 14 18:56:56 2020 +0100 > > Date: Tue Dec 15 13:50:00 2020 +0100 > > Date: Mon Jan 4 16:23:10 2021 +0100 > > > > I've always assumed that the "Date:" there was when the commit > happened, > > It is, but it is the time it was committed in the first git repos it was > committed to, > in this case the repos of the committer in question. > > Without taking a position on the merits of this design-choice, I > just want to point out that it means that timestamps should be > viewed very sceptically, since they depend on the *local* clock on > somebodys computer, not on the central repos machine. > I'll be more frank than phk: it sucks. Git's commit dates are basically useless. But there are a few ways to improve the situation: 1) If we start using Gitlab or something similar, we can ban pushes directly to head. Then we'll be able to trust the Dates on Gitlab's merge commits. 2) Perhaps we can use the Git Notes to add a field for the Date when a commit was pushed to the master server? 3) The internet is full of suggestions for how to change the way commits are displayed locally to mediate this problem. But they all seem to involve changes to the working copy's configuration, not the master's. And I haven't gotten any way to work. -Alan From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 17:51:26 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1477C4DD96D for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 17:51:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8jqK1tPMz3Mq3; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 17:51:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (v-critter.freebsd.dk [192.168.55.3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 259478A3C6; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 17:51:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 104HpM9T094624 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 4 Jan 2021 17:51:22 GMT (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: (from phk@localhost) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 104HpMhp094623; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 17:51:22 GMT (envelope-from phk) To: Alan Somers cc: John Kennedy , Current FreeBSD Subject: Re: git non-time-sequential logs In-reply-to: From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" References: <94447.1609779520@critter.freebsd.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <94621.1609782682.1@critter.freebsd.dk> Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 17:51:22 +0000 Message-ID: <94622.1609782682@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8jqK1tPMz3Mq3 X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[130.225.244.222:from]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[phk]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.dk]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[130.225.244.222:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[phk@phk.freebsd.dk,phk@critter.freebsd.dk]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:1835, ipnet:130.225.0.0/16, country:EU]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[phk@phk.freebsd.dk,phk@critter.freebsd.dk]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 17:51:26 -0000 -------- Alan Somers writes: > I'll be more frank than phk: it sucks. Git's commit dates are basically > useless. Git is not built as, or to be, version control. Git is built to be distrbuted collaboration tool. The designed-in version control aspect was always, and only, that the ranting finish guy *by fiat* had the golden tree. The fact that people, like us, dress git up and call it a VCS does not wash the stripes of the tiger. To me, personally, having a distributed collaboration tool has been much more valuable than any "pure" or "real" VCS ever were. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 18:08:28 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B0B54DE922 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:08:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-qk1-x731.google.com (mail-qk1-x731.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::731]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8kC01wKHz3P9j for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:08:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-qk1-x731.google.com with SMTP id v126so24150291qkd.11 for ; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 10:08:28 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=k10j6EGuCYDvL38NMnc46wmH2+nnwY9drjtTKzBiJEk=; b=dVoZwJY/solj0CVavzXRmcwIIdhAnOcZKz5/yQuQjOcT/zbP47Ffbcv8MgvCvSQZr8 4sJRiDAuG3KtCJ5qFhfTUv0gZYbtiJsWnU3pkEZnao+Rh962oTr/vLH5gHlzQHtS8EaJ sCk/MJLCNVKGwdBHlVKGnQM6H7zafS9oL4ZWsx/3UpzeSeLkAGVzJdpzmo94KZFx0qmP w7Rpm0laCOrV9PFeW2WMHcE0WTf/fvsWv4h7UKmnepVWhmc2RiZJQXUcvh0WgspzOH9I G8wLA2NyRa/m+4wVmiMM/yb6ASlqzo7nBzKPXrYW4ghhD01EmkY+wXdY6zjwQYMBbxeG cSOQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533K4WPn2Bhg1G0DrM+dJPcHbye0PIVbXKtiRpi7/kmGvLU6HkSk cNVKRfg7oUoCLmr6woaplzjGlgqqAU0zuHahV0lA/Y6HO/yWYw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzhTaXRWs8qSOBlob9cN+ZTdUxEztBbSXIkmvim858GmHqUydwmJcPlziK0h8JN2N+l1iTVo+tUPr1d/IGxbC0= X-Received: by 2002:ae9:ebd5:: with SMTP id b204mr71745866qkg.195.1609783707383; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 10:08:27 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <94447.1609779520@critter.freebsd.dk> <94622.1609782682@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: <94622.1609782682@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Warner Losh Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 11:08:16 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: git non-time-sequential logs To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: Alan Somers , John Kennedy , Current FreeBSD X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8kC01wKHz3P9j X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 18:08:28 -0000 On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 10:51 AM Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > -------- > Alan Somers writes: > > > I'll be more frank than phk: it sucks. Git's commit dates are basically > > useless. > > Git is not built as, or to be, version control. > > Git is built to be distrbuted collaboration tool. > > The designed-in version control aspect was always, and only, that > the ranting finish guy *by fiat* had the golden tree. > > The fact that people, like us, dress git up and call it a VCS does > not wash the stripes of the tiger. > > To me, personally, having a distributed collaboration tool has been > much more valuable than any "pure" or "real" VCS ever were. > Yes. Git has never been a true/pure VCS. However, it does offer enough VCS-like features to create a shared distributed versioned tree that's useful to the project. As for date order, we could also add a commit hook that requires the date to be properly set, but that creates friction for developers. Is that friction worth the benefits? I don't think so, but as you say we could also add notes... but since there's no checkout by date feature, I'm not sure what good it would do. Warner From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 18:18:43 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B284DF313 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:18:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-qt1-x831.google.com (mail-qt1-x831.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::831]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8kQp6fl9z3QBD for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:18:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-qt1-x831.google.com with SMTP id g24so19085863qtq.12 for ; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 10:18:42 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=dB1AYL/uzqA8kZ9rwZttbAcp/IYcmuOEDzqMz2dtgoU=; b=Un6JKXypADlypFy675nJMcROxwFIKsdHqDbBWPIf1jgcrGbH5o2n+ZnXX0PSicjFNU eVySO5lFpEqObyCMdDVyx5a7edd+N2cxZ6xl9iqwhkuz115Cuqpl9cMqdzKVVv+bJSfk TMrHNnjvr5WO2LlLVnrOd+SGIVZK4Zf1pgDAhcOCd6HMp/eX1UKrcXgU/WEiwpMJ79hC kOjxMB3vBQvSq7MASGvOImmMIwg8By8oFelCz00Lip/u7he1ISeRIyqZDrYA/0KENA0p Q49v24RungBDNNMMHeaiqk3/b0HoAI1U1DIlkfcMImnRoHtkmpiEutUkg4PSkm1sEkn4 1aDQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533lS0EnXBaVe1bfPedjMVc5tUdUg4modmg0UiSuzKGM7YHNkv/v coNXbxblk2LQ4tWthFMVbvXtmmOUrsAk8m7t6CnRP9xP+UfJ6A== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJygAl4BQvFeAXEyhEJZ5cA5dT7M6lumHKhEZQEJbQBTlGSgwFvroWLHLQ9dVohdG7J0QZu5XBj058sbmQAIAr4= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:4910:: with SMTP id e16mr73197480qtq.244.1609784322059; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 10:18:42 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20210104123512.0f5e1b01@hermann.fritz.box> <3137a3ce-50c8-bee5-6a15-7701e3281500@FreeBSD.org> <9d10b86a-9ef6-a9cd-786c-5eeb33ececbd@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> In-Reply-To: <9d10b86a-9ef6-a9cd-786c-5eeb33ececbd@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> From: Warner Losh Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 11:18:31 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: CURRENT, usr/src on git, howto "mergemaster"? To: Marek Zarychta Cc: FreeBSD Current , FreeBSD CURRENT X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8kQp6fl9z3QBD X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 18:18:43 -0000 On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 9:36 AM Marek Zarychta wrote: > W dniu 04.01.2021 o 17:14, Warner Losh pisze: > > > etcupdate does a full three merge, while mergemaster fakes it in a number > > of ways. etcupdate directly keeps track of the resolutions, which is why > > $FreeBSD$ doesn't matter so much to it. > > > > mergemaster is deprecated and will likely be removed from the system > > because it has no maintainer and is quite a bit harder to keep working > than > > etcupdate. > > > > Please don't sacrifice mergemaster(8) for the successful transition to > Git. The amount of feedback on the mailing list should give the core@ > some idea of how widely mergemasted is still deployed. Some people just > like to merge files side by side with pressing keys. Why innocent > mergemaster(8) has to be a victim of switching to Git? Sacrifice please > svnlite(1) - it became completely useless for HEAD and upcoming stable > branches. > mergemaster has been on its way out since well before the switch to git. It's been disfavored for at least a decade and basically unmaintained in the base for maybe last 5 years. Apart from major breakage, only doc changes have happened in that time. Warner From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 18:30:31 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AFF74DF4CF; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:30:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pl1-x633.google.com (mail-pl1-x633.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::633]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8khR2sqxz3R4D; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:30:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pl1-x633.google.com with SMTP id e2so14967198plt.12; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 10:30:31 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:content-transfer-encoding:from:mime-version :subject:date:message-id:references:cc:in-reply-to:to; bh=KETMF7D9+yvThJEzwoONG3U0Vud5xMoM25qa7uByKgI=; b=kqiqHnuvZe+auPdGu1pYKqs02WAN1QaLK7m7BraaT2B1Xb37Q5zV4i/ieDwYVwVpXN 6W2TsWuDXp84fnrBZ4BpmYSxibc75PxCpAy0yisHn+wXzNG5QTzGCO7iMdGD74md7Tj7 G7+q92lF131uZHSXzAjmJnC00w8xGP6Ptsi+nAoqQmqaRUZPxLXC5ND+7SyalIegp4ip 8OvvJFIFfsHYzmQNB5PKgGE6XJfUhE7WcU3Buz+bdXX8+exqunUIgajOiBZBjIhHLkBY bryZLRHiBAntjbRoW9e8gN96kE1x7smQ4bJJ/IZlUk7R7C+QcaTdzBc89xu7/PL2iWtF eSYg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533ZgBN3npy0QHpaHnBFvP38UYSRcpLWlYH6yE51DgHcOB1F9co5 +IdxBbWfhwOa1hKUEXB/8ME= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyq9CdcOghi1lBWaeQWI9w5uTY/HsSTqNUm1X85jhQt7TsrS2W0YAXXjaqF+VOy5JSKZBC+bw== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:b693:b029:da:e92c:fc23 with SMTP id c19-20020a170902b693b02900dae92cfc23mr51771973pls.55.1609785029961; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 10:30:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.20.31] (c-73-19-52-228.hsd1.wa.comcast.net. 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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 10:30:28 -0800 Message-Id: <0F14842F-2C85-4ED3-B4C9-D2AA12A55464@gmail.com> References: Cc: Marek Zarychta , FreeBSD Current , FreeBSD CURRENT In-Reply-To: To: Warner Losh X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (18B92) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8khR2sqxz3R4D X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 18:30:31 -0000 > On Jan 4, 2021, at 10:19, Warner Losh wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BFOn Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 9:36 AM Marek Zarychta > wrote: >=20 >> W dniu 04.01.2021 o 17:14, Warner Losh pisze: >>=20 >>> etcupdate does a full three merge, while mergemaster fakes it in a numbe= r >>> of ways. etcupdate directly keeps track of the resolutions, which is why= >>> $FreeBSD$ doesn't matter so much to it. >>>=20 >>> mergemaster is deprecated and will likely be removed from the system >>> because it has no maintainer and is quite a bit harder to keep working >> than >>> etcupdate. >>>=20 >>=20 >> Please don't sacrifice mergemaster(8) for the successful transition to >> Git. The amount of feedback on the mailing list should give the core@ >> some idea of how widely mergemasted is still deployed. Some people just >> like to merge files side by side with pressing keys. Why innocent >> mergemaster(8) has to be a victim of switching to Git? Sacrifice please >> svnlite(1) - it became completely useless for HEAD and upcoming stable >> branches. >>=20 >=20 > mergemaster has been on its way out since well before the switch to git. > It's been disfavored for at least a decade and basically unmaintained in > the base for maybe last 5 years. Apart from major breakage, only doc > changes have happened in that time. Adding to this: it has no maintainer, it=E2=80=99s less featureful, and it l= acks tests. Once I switched to etcupdate a few years back I never looked bac= k at mergemaster. I honestly think it should be deprecated in 13.x and removed in 14.x. It=E2=80= =99s been several major releases since it=E2=80=99s been unofficially deprec= ated. -Enji= From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 18:31:08 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F05E4DF755 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:31:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (mailserver.netfence.it [78.134.96.152]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8kj73z00z3RBY for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:31:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPSA id 104IV558000840 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:31:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.netfence.it: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be alamar.ventu Subject: Re: CURRENT, usr/src on git, howto "mergemaster"? To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <20210104123512.0f5e1b01@hermann.fritz.box> <3137a3ce-50c8-bee5-6a15-7701e3281500@FreeBSD.org> <9d10b86a-9ef6-a9cd-786c-5eeb33ececbd@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> From: Andrea Venturoli Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:31:05 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8kj73z00z3RBY X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.80 / 15.00]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[78.134.96.152:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[78.134.96.152:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:78.134.96.152]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[netfence.it,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ASN(0.00)[asn:35612, ipnet:78.134.0.0/17, country:IT]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 18:31:08 -0000 On 1/4/21 7:18 PM, Warner Losh wrote: > mergemaster has been on its way out since well before the switch to git. > It's been disfavored for at least a decade I first heard about this today. While I don't have any opinion on this, shouldn't any reference to it in the instructions in /usr/src/UPDATING be changed? They way I read that file is that mergemaster is still the official way to go. bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 18:33:16 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADAED4DF855 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:33:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (mailman.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8klc3fG0z3h5B for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:33:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 7D25A4DF854; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:33:16 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CEC94DFBE3 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:33:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from mx.catwhisker.org (mx.catwhisker.org [107.204.234.170]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8klc1qxMz3hGy for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:33:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.16.1/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 104IX83Q016757; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:33:08 GMT (envelope-from david@albert.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 104IX8ue016756; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 10:33:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 10:33:08 -0800 From: David Wolfskill To: Enji Cooper Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CURRENT, usr/src on git, howto "mergemaster"? Message-ID: Reply-To: current@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: current@freebsd.org, Enji Cooper References: <0F14842F-2C85-4ED3-B4C9-D2AA12A55464@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="olSbeb/1Du6tt88X" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0F14842F-2C85-4ED3-B4C9-D2AA12A55464@gmail.com> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8klc1qxMz3hGy X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 18:33:16 -0000 --olSbeb/1Du6tt88X Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 10:30:28AM -0800, Enji Cooper wrote: > ...=20 > Adding to this: it has no maintainer, it=E2=80=99s less featureful, and i= t lacks tests. Once I switched to etcupdate a few years back I never looked= back at mergemaster. >=20 > I honestly think it should be deprecated in 13.x and removed in 14.x. It= =E2=80=99s been several major releases since it=E2=80=99s been unofficially= deprecated. >=20 > -Enji > .... All of which is fine, but at some point prior to that, perhaps src/UPDATING's instructions that cite its use might merit a change to reflect the use of a supported tool? Peace, david --=20 David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org Real "RINOs": Donald Trump and his acolytes (e.g., Ted Cruz; Josh Hawley). See https://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. --olSbeb/1Du6tt88X Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGTBAEBCgB9FiEE4owz2QxMJyaxAefyQLJg+bY2PckFAl/zX2RfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEUy OEMzM0Q5MEM0QzI3MjZCMTAxRTdGMjQwQjI2MEY5QjYzNjNEQzkACgkQQLJg+bY2 PcnaYwf+PctNiLGSQ5vEwa1zMlA8KXPgYmM/PYo+K7VYWjzkCh/v1SBtqHSsJeBv WC405A5YtE2upF7Vdvb045ppxGVh4kigCkiT+V8IRHmm6Z0nDbFQ5gAKqYbdnQDZ +KUyDwuPz4JMrsXpr9hlglUVIW5tt3jtgkIVPHKxy2eKpwoF7AjTV3Pls3r8h/Pd Q+YUtZa/kI5muQR8Yu+R5FWnK61Y+lBgWhhQMEYztZUz4ASsNe4PGqM6Ex5PhD21 IGF9OLfbgrl5WGc9/EFLcIBjUsR6loMJP38JEp+CopxhPmzF3EFq/hKbUuxbPT3w XrESbbn1FT+JG0myNLzNuWXTxZEOiw== =FSYk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --olSbeb/1Du6tt88X-- From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 18:34:47 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F14664DFE0B for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:34:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from warlock@phouka1.phouka.net) Received: from phouka1.phouka.net (phouka1.phouka.net [107.170.196.116]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "phouka.net", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8knM2PwZz3hMc for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:34:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from warlock@phouka1.phouka.net) Received: from phouka1.phouka.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phouka1.phouka.net (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 104IXT9W089501 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 4 Jan 2021 10:33:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from warlock@phouka1.phouka.net) Received: (from warlock@localhost) by phouka1.phouka.net (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 104IXTO5089500; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 10:33:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from warlock) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 10:33:29 -0800 From: John Kennedy To: Toomas Soome Cc: Current FreeBSD Subject: Re: boot loader blank screen Message-ID: References: <83EB3B04-EAE8-4EC3-820B-2F5C3BADE948@me.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83EB3B04-EAE8-4EC3-820B-2F5C3BADE948@me.com> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8knM2PwZz3hMc X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.80 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[107.170.196.116:from]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[phouka.net]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[107.170.196.116:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[me.com]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[warlock@phouka.net,warlock@phouka1.phouka.net]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14061, ipnet:107.170.192.0/18, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[warlock@phouka.net,warlock@phouka1.phouka.net]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 18:34:48 -0000 On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 06:30:38PM +0200, Toomas Soome wrote: > Yes, it is known defect, and I???m searching for cause; the issue is with /boot/loader and BIOS text mode (unfortunately I have the usual ???but it is working for me??? case). For workaround, you can try to either: 1 (blind) press esc to get out of boot menu, then enter: vbe on; another option is to add hw.vga.textmode=???0??? to loader.conf. > > Sorry for confusion, > toomas Yeah, that is a BIOS (vs UEFI) system. Adding hw.vga.textmode=0 worked, and I like the graphical demon for what that's worth. (: I've also upgraded the bootcode, although that may mean nothing if the textmode is avoiding the problem. In any case, I guess I have a known-bad (?) system, so if I can help you out in some way let me know. Bonking that box every now and then isn't a problem for me. From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 18:39:21 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F604DFC6F for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:39:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-qt1-x834.google.com (mail-qt1-x834.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::834]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8ktc2zd7z3hlB for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:39:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-qt1-x834.google.com with SMTP id z3so19117169qtw.9 for ; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 10:39:20 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=C4QVEH622jRwGh+NgO/oqhT1XqMqMDVlyyKNodruzCc=; b=ho0BP48l/LSoyxgagl3h7B1exnWRK72+BIXP0c4q3mfGfbpBIt3rMEkxyLCNY9i9t3 ecalDvX9P6llJoS0yT3GTFSBDTziB4NmaUgPIzZaP1v61jDMvkTtbVWFHcM6G9t6Htdj GjQ36Ax007meBS6t65bzX5JiRZKYItT9sLbVZ4hZDEanlt4t+LnGm1JFMe0Ju8ci7AOA WyyfXH+1Z2QlDmCgB6cnmV0QrKazpLDKfV1Ub2yKYWy+Eda+0R+M5O0g6YOk08bq0nhr ZWrgZd29Zacgv0EFxefcEKtK1+1lmFYPKbz+Byu0asdvExJZAOg6BgRDXyAl8WU2/ieE V6gQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533a6DX41ygvH+ZA0At8ROdQKGSuxLmQzZ65Hnze2Z7UuVK/nQx2 HyunXRwvIp9YZ3OTIMY4alvUlBksqF7iENMdQzkJfA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxoS/n3seMkZdK6gVp47vZmhUfwbGjDv0NNt2KBkoEK/B9xKiJqv4BosKzImhmi6nHZtllkA35EPRLqD+xeIsg= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:70c2:: with SMTP id g2mr69967076qtp.49.1609785559438; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 10:39:19 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <83EB3B04-EAE8-4EC3-820B-2F5C3BADE948@me.com> In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 11:39:08 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: boot loader blank screen To: John Kennedy Cc: Toomas Soome , Current FreeBSD X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8ktc2zd7z3hlB X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bsdimp.com]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::834:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.998]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::834:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::834:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[me.com,freebsd.org] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 18:39:21 -0000 On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 11:35 AM John Kennedy wrote: > On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 06:30:38PM +0200, Toomas Soome wrote: > > Yes, it is known defect, and I???m searching for cause; the issue is > with /boot/loader and BIOS text mode (unfortunately I have the usual ???but > it is working for me??? case). For workaround, you can try to either: 1 > (blind) press esc to get out of boot menu, then enter: vbe on; another > option is to add hw.vga.textmode=???0??? to loader.conf. > > > > Sorry for confusion, > > toomas > > Yeah, that is a BIOS (vs UEFI) system. Adding hw.vga.textmode=0 worked, > and I like the graphical demon for what that's worth. (: > > I've also upgraded the bootcode, although that may mean nothing if the > textmode is avoiding the problem. > > In any case, I guess I have a known-bad (?) system, so if I can help you > out in some way let me know. Bonking that box every now and then isn't a > problem for me. > Yea, this is a feature that needs to be fixed since black on black text is a show stopper :( Warner From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 18:39:21 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBDE94DFC70 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:39:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D8ktd2GDvz3hZV for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:39:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 4BEAA4DFC6E; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:39:21 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BAF04DFC6D for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:39:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pg1-x533.google.com (mail-pg1-x533.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::533]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8ktd1Q90z3hVB for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:39:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pg1-x533.google.com with SMTP id n10so19599752pgl.10 for ; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 10:39:20 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=72RoLHwolsG3p4dunrqhPxK7QoqPqY8vihwDu7BPlhU=; b=ZxcSVtDm1xExHZCxxHtutu7E6WUUsnjdD8CWgsOOa3G8Ahv4YKG8KT/SxeUPZhomfW LcQkbmvdNMJ+hMzV9ZFEgAmYRx5vTMLrvPWcI1RcCzcEwWY3IKUEkwX1WFynvcX7VyRo FbHQzox+NUSkoSdjjzo8CX/D1hysMjbx0iyY336+Wla0NHBNHEuM+naSJ21e7KiMtHIp du6cKIJiRDI5yIuXI96/AueiCl/IFoW273U/FxkBfkdYTFr6cl3fOyC7C3GYsQGL5yIq gC0Pu0yJg3rlhV3p2K1h7ku0Tgn0ockC2ULrYQ+/GKVuBu42MXw6W6oV/qcnCLsV38+b iWvw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532ZWLay09BASv0NhWDUaaCLHCO5g4eNIwQR5DRfzTF6+3ctv1Wj jkEDcro/rg1Bow41St3+T1vTCRsZtZCehA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwGLm/nO8PHCV0T3yq6M5mrRv/Ue0dAlv95/Jss3OOvi30PP/QltvIpp2MwVjgu/N/CC5hPFg== X-Received: by 2002:a62:8fd1:0:b029:19e:757b:c7ba with SMTP id n200-20020a628fd10000b029019e757bc7bamr66277497pfd.44.1609785559475; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 10:39:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.20.29] (c-73-19-52-228.hsd1.wa.comcast.net. [73.19.52.228]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id nk11sm87677pjb.26.2021.01.04.10.39.18 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 04 Jan 2021 10:39:19 -0800 (PST) From: Enji Cooper Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.4\)) Subject: Re: CURRENT, usr/src on git, howto "mergemaster"? Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 10:39:18 -0800 References: <0F14842F-2C85-4ED3-B4C9-D2AA12A55464@gmail.com> To: FreeBSD Current In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <1C7B83B8-60A1-473D-8791-0A03AFEA1405@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8ktd1Q90z3hVB X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 18:39:22 -0000 > On Jan 4, 2021, at 10:33 AM, David Wolfskill = wrote: >=20 > On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 10:30:28AM -0800, Enji Cooper wrote: >> ...=20 >> Adding to this: it has no maintainer, it=E2=80=99s less featureful, = and it lacks tests. Once I switched to etcupdate a few years back I = never looked back at mergemaster. >>=20 >> I honestly think it should be deprecated in 13.x and removed in 14.x. = It=E2=80=99s been several major releases since it=E2=80=99s been = unofficially deprecated. >>=20 >> -Enji >> .... >=20 > All of which is fine, but at some point prior to that, perhaps > src/UPDATING's instructions that cite its use might merit a change to > reflect the use of a supported tool? I=E2=80=99ll submit a patch soon on Phabricator to do this (might as = well test out the new git workflow on my end=E2=80=A6). Cheers, -Enji= From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 18:48:56 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 648A24C06A7 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:48:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gljennjohn@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ej1-x62c.google.com (mail-ej1-x62c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::62c]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8l5g3cGkz3jNK for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:48:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gljennjohn@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ej1-x62c.google.com with SMTP id q22so38190455eja.2 for ; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 10:48:55 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mVRN14LK/WGTc5uTEjhDzPxMlgXuBds6FoGFqaY9ggM=; b=rWzZP49z/dHFdBxekArmQVBX2UqA2527X8Ua/HBBj0hJ4QsvqDNDm6YauOx2Y5VZnF +8E3UW/tjOYMOoNWdXQzk2aXw1ZhcC/qh8lAh1RpZ0lrJ3I5OCd0CCTJqBgWUUPi7CVg LQemdE4Wvm8BqfiLaGhbuEtlor719LEAHd16wg/paVb0BhCF0HOTpHFzz3+r8s8RbQYM i02Ru1/nYHp+nQpnPaCmqutTozHvmIMl3WYcaQSwLionxgPHFQrjAzsBP3Z5Y0qg3mmO AncIbcu3BDVpr/813wVtNhRF2w8GAnowminL5NMgUreXjoyuWMmB8d4KXfvapiqWR/1H Mb4A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5313j5e+3uJcpkXoET4JX0j/wDEyuwKbDjubFJkwtWhL4xh6JUHh SxNyywphnGzOUu82XzWlSbc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxpFdBiqS900VHCgqSAMWKtI2iYyilE2D96FTHIJxuld+nlx14pTf7NC3gNzi1t3K+apJx2Lg== X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:40d3:: with SMTP id a19mr66109687ejk.98.1609786133977; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 10:48:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from ernst.home (p5b02350e.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [91.2.53.14]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r24sm43911242edo.4.2021.01.04.10.48.53 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 04 Jan 2021 10:48:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:48:52 +0100 From: Gary Jennejohn To: John Kennedy Cc: Current FreeBSD Subject: Re: boot loader blank screen Message-ID: <20210104184852.75dc5487@ernst.home> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: gljennjohn@gmail.com X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.5 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd13.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8l5g3cGkz3jNK X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[gljennjohn@gmail.com]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::62c:from]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[91.2.53.14:received]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; FREEMAIL_REPLYTO(0.00)[gmail.com]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::62c:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::62c:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 18:48:56 -0000 On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 08:22:56 -0800 John Kennedy wrote: > This is a little weird. > > Somewhere between 13.0-g2ff66a915526 (Dec 30th) and -gd03fd8ede2c4 (Dec 29th), > I've lost the screen in the boot loader. This is really weird because I > didn't update the boot loader (in quite a while, actually), but I suppose it > might drag some stuff off of the disk and misbehave. > > But the system boots, presumably after the countdown that I can't see, I just > have to SSH in from a different machine to tweak things. Just no screen at > all past the GELI encrypted disk password prompt (and some usual noise as > it complains about some padding that I've seen forever). > > I used to just upgrade the boot loader around ZFS upgrades, and I haven't > done that since OpenZFS got merged. I just got overly conservative there > and may have missed the "all clear" for all combinations of ZFS and the > bootloader recognizing them. > I had this problem also after I updated my sources this morning in Germany and decided to make a new kernel and world. I then booted the new kernel and did installworld, after which I rebooted with the new kernel and saw that the console disappeared after the BTX Loader output appeared. So I logged in using ssh and looked under /boot. There were 52 files which had been newly installed, all of them related to booting. Luckily, I had a backup of /boot which I'd made on January 1. Restoring the backup got me back my console. I have no idea which of the newly installed files caused the console to disappear. Note that my loader.conf was not modified. And also that I still use 4th rather than lua. I tried using both sc and vt, but the console still failed to appear. > The git logs in /usr/src aren't time-sequential, so maybe I shouldn't trust > those dates above (I pulled it ~Jan 3rd and let it compile overnight), but > I'm going to repull all the sources and recompile, just in case. I might > have initiall pulled it during the git conversion and maybe it is confused. > -- Gary Jennejohn From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 18:49:17 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EBA04C074A; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:49:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zarychtam@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl) Received: from plan-b.pwste.edu.pl (plan-b.pwste.edu.pl [IPv6:2001:678:618::40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "plan-b.pwste.edu.pl", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8l646KTqz3jZ9; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:49:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zarychtam@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl) Received: from fomalhaut.potoki.eu ([IPv6:2001:470:71:d47:e50a:9397:cf91:e1d6]) (authenticated bits=0) by plan-b.pwste.edu.pl (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPSA id 104InAvB059649 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:49:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from zarychtam@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: plan-b.pwste.edu.pl: Host [IPv6:2001:470:71:d47:e50a:9397:cf91:e1d6] claimed to be fomalhaut.potoki.eu To: Enji Cooper , Warner Losh Cc: FreeBSD Current , FreeBSD CURRENT References: <0F14842F-2C85-4ED3-B4C9-D2AA12A55464@gmail.com> From: Marek Zarychta Subject: Re: CURRENT, usr/src on git, howto "mergemaster"? Message-ID: <32e8677d-642c-204f-f89a-53a1f3bea6f7@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:49:09 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0F14842F-2C85-4ED3-B4C9-D2AA12A55464@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0MKP10WDH16bity0GoL540BZWFSZkEJQD" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8l646KTqz3jZ9 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 18:49:17 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --0MKP10WDH16bity0GoL540BZWFSZkEJQD Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IyZeTT2aC8MQUySkNIiyV059uLHeCC6io"; protected-headers="v1" From: Marek Zarychta To: Enji Cooper , Warner Losh Cc: FreeBSD Current , FreeBSD CURRENT Message-ID: <32e8677d-642c-204f-f89a-53a1f3bea6f7@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> Subject: Re: CURRENT, usr/src on git, howto "mergemaster"? References: <0F14842F-2C85-4ED3-B4C9-D2AA12A55464@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <0F14842F-2C85-4ED3-B4C9-D2AA12A55464@gmail.com> --IyZeTT2aC8MQUySkNIiyV059uLHeCC6io Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: pl Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable W dniu 04.01.2021 o=C2=A019:30, Enji Cooper pisze: >=20 >> On Jan 4, 2021, at 10:19, Warner Losh wrote: >> >> =EF=BB=BFOn Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 9:36 AM Marek Zarychta >> wrote: >> >>> W dniu 04.01.2021 o 17:14, Warner Losh pisze: >>> >>>> etcupdate does a full three merge, while mergemaster fakes it in a n= umber >>>> of ways. etcupdate directly keeps track of the resolutions, which is= why >>>> $FreeBSD$ doesn't matter so much to it. >>>> >>>> mergemaster is deprecated and will likely be removed from the system= >>>> because it has no maintainer and is quite a bit harder to keep worki= ng >>> than >>>> etcupdate. >>>> >>> >>> Please don't sacrifice mergemaster(8) for the successful transition t= o >>> Git. The amount of feedback on the mailing list should give the core@= >>> some idea of how widely mergemasted is still deployed. Some people ju= st >>> like to merge files side by side with pressing keys. Why innocent >>> mergemaster(8) has to be a victim of switching to Git? Sacrifice plea= se >>> svnlite(1) - it became completely useless for HEAD and upcoming stabl= e >>> branches. >>> >> >> mergemaster has been on its way out since well before the switch to gi= t. >> It's been disfavored for at least a decade and basically unmaintained = in >> the base for maybe last 5 years. Apart from major breakage, only doc >> changes have happened in that time. >=20 > Adding to this: it has no maintainer, it=E2=80=99s less featureful, and= it lacks tests. Once I switched to etcupdate a few years back I never lo= oked back at mergemaster. >=20 > I honestly think it should be deprecated in 13.x and removed in 14.x. I= t=E2=80=99s been several major releases since it=E2=80=99s been unofficia= lly deprecated. >=20 Terrible idea IMHO, but I am only the weak voice from the userbase. It's like deprecating old, well-worn hammer in the favour of the nail gun. Why not deprecate biff(1), pom(6), nvi(1) etc.? 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[209.85.222.169]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t5sm37142487qte.20.2021.01.04.10.52.12 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 04 Jan 2021 10:52:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-qk1-f169.google.com with SMTP id w79so24349136qkb.5; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 10:52:12 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:a37:6189:: with SMTP id v131mr70657249qkb.337.1609786332338; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 10:52:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <94447.1609779520@critter.freebsd.dk> <94622.1609782682@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: From: Ryan Libby Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 10:52:01 -0800 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: git non-time-sequential logs To: Warner Losh Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , Alan Somers , John Kennedy , Current FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8l9V2BfYz3jyL X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 18:52:14 -0000 On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 10:08 AM Warner Losh wrote: ... > As for date order, we could also add a commit hook that requires the date > to be properly set, but that creates friction for developers. Is that > friction worth the benefits? I don't think so, but as you say we could also > add notes... but since there's no checkout by date feature, I'm not sure > what good it would do. Not a vote one way or the other, but it would at least make git log --since more meaningful. 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Git's commit dates are = basically > useless. But there are a few ways to improve the situation: > 1) If we start using Gitlab or something similar, we can ban pushes > directly to head. Then we'll be able to trust the Dates on Gitlab's = merge > commits. > 2) Perhaps we can use the Git Notes to add a field for the Date when a > commit was pushed to the master server? > 3) The internet is full of suggestions for how to change the way = commits > are displayed locally to mediate this problem. But they all seem to > involve changes to the working copy's configuration, not the master's. = And > I haven't gotten any way to work. I actually find the non-sequential dates a feature: if someone reorders = commits in a stack, e.g., `git rebase -I` I find it curious wondering = why things were committed in the order they were. The point is to stop looking at git like svn: commits should be done as = larger bodies of work (merge commits), as opposed to single atomic = commits. 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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 10:54:24 -0800 In-Reply-To: <32e8677d-642c-204f-f89a-53a1f3bea6f7@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> Cc: Warner Losh , FreeBSD Current , FreeBSD CURRENT To: Marek Zarychta References: <0F14842F-2C85-4ED3-B4C9-D2AA12A55464@gmail.com> <32e8677d-642c-204f-f89a-53a1f3bea6f7@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8lD46Qh7z3kvk X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 18:54:29 -0000 > On Jan 4, 2021, at 10:49 AM, Marek Zarychta = wrote: =E2=80=A6 > Terrible idea IMHO, but I am only the weak voice from the userbase. >=20 > It's like deprecating old, well-worn hammer in the favour of the nail > gun. Why not deprecate biff(1), pom(6), nvi(1) etc.? Marek, I=E2=80=99m curious: have you used etcupdate before instead of = mergemaster? If so when? If you ran into issues (UX as well as = functional): could you please report them on bugs.freebsd.org = ? etcupdate is a less fragile tool that=E2=80=99s broken my = systems less when compared with mergemaster. Cheers, -Enji= From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 18:54:53 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E374C0F5D for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:54:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from warlock@phouka1.phouka.net) Received: from phouka1.phouka.net (phouka1.phouka.net [107.170.196.116]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "phouka.net", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8lDX02DKz3kl9 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:54:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from warlock@phouka1.phouka.net) Received: from phouka1.phouka.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phouka1.phouka.net (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 104IqIpx089569 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 4 Jan 2021 10:52:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from warlock@phouka1.phouka.net) Received: (from warlock@localhost) by phouka1.phouka.net (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 104IqIhQ089566; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 10:52:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from warlock) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 10:52:18 -0800 From: John Kennedy To: Warner Losh Cc: Toomas Soome , Current FreeBSD Subject: Re: boot loader blank screen Message-ID: References: <83EB3B04-EAE8-4EC3-820B-2F5C3BADE948@me.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8lDX02DKz3kl9 X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.80 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[phouka.net]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[107.170.196.116:from]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[107.170.196.116:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[warlock@phouka.net,warlock@phouka1.phouka.net]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[me.com,freebsd.org]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[warlock@phouka.net,warlock@phouka1.phouka.net]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14061, ipnet:107.170.192.0/18, country:US] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 18:54:53 -0000 On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 11:39:08AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > Yea, this is a feature that needs to be fixed since black on black text is > a show stopper :( Ah, this is part of the "Terminal colours in current" thread? I saw that, but didn't correlate it with default black-on-black text. It looked like more of a graphics-mode glitch (blank screen, backlit, signal) initially, I'd just not seen something like that bite me at the bootloader stage before. 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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 10:58:08 -0800 In-Reply-To: <2B92ACC3-D40D-4456-BB53-98938348E13F@gmail.com> Cc: Warner Losh , FreeBSD Current , FreeBSD CURRENT To: Marek Zarychta References: <0F14842F-2C85-4ED3-B4C9-D2AA12A55464@gmail.com> <32e8677d-642c-204f-f89a-53a1f3bea6f7@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> <2B92ACC3-D40D-4456-BB53-98938348E13F@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8lJM0qVcz3l7V X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.50 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[3]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::42b:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[73.19.52.228:received]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::42b:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::42b:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[current,freebsd-current] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 18:58:12 -0000 > On Jan 4, 2021, at 10:54 AM, Enji Cooper = wrote: >=20 >=20 >> On Jan 4, 2021, at 10:49 AM, Marek Zarychta = > = wrote: >=20 > =E2=80=A6 >=20 >> Terrible idea IMHO, but I am only the weak voice from the userbase. >>=20 >> It's like deprecating old, well-worn hammer in the favour of the nail >> gun. Why not deprecate biff(1), pom(6), nvi(1) etc.? >=20 > Marek, > I=E2=80=99m curious: have you used etcupdate before instead of = mergemaster? If so when? If you ran into issues (UX as well as = functional): could you please report them on bugs.freebsd.org = ? > etcupdate is a less fragile tool that=E2=80=99s broken my = systems less when compared with mergemaster. That reminds me, there is a feature gap (in the last 5~10 years I=E2=80=99= ve used etcupdate) that I forgot about between mergemaster and = etcupdate: in particular, mergemaster works when adding/removing new = users and groups from /etc/passwd* and /etc/group, respectively, dealing = with mtree files, the last time I checked. Apart from that, I don=E2=80=99= t see a use for mergemaster (and in which case, the feature gap can be = trimmed down/migrated to etcupdate). mergemaster has broken the = configuration of my machines/VMs more than etcupdate has ever and I=E2=80=99= ve used both tools for about the same time. Cheers, -Enji= From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 18:59:22 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20DD54C1660; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:59:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.21]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "troutmask", Issuer "troutmask" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8lKj5NsCz3lY3; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:59:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 104IxElW019825 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 4 Jan 2021 10:59:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 104IxEIS019824; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 10:59:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 10:59:14 -0800 From: Steve Kargl To: Enji Cooper Cc: Warner Losh , Marek Zarychta , FreeBSD Current , FreeBSD CURRENT Subject: Re: CURRENT, usr/src on git, howto "mergemaster"? Message-ID: <20210104185914.GA19556@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <0F14842F-2C85-4ED3-B4C9-D2AA12A55464@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <0F14842F-2C85-4ED3-B4C9-D2AA12A55464@gmail.com> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8lKj5NsCz3lY3 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 18:59:22 -0000 On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 10:30:28AM -0800, Enji Cooper wrote: > >> On Jan 4, 2021, at 10:19, Warner Losh wrote: >> >> mergemaster has been on its way out since well before the switch to git. >> It's been disfavored for at least a decade and basically unmaintained in >> the base for maybe last 5 years. Apart from major breakage, only doc >> changes have happened in that time. > > Adding to this: it has no maintainer, it’s less featureful, and it lacks tests. Once I switched to etcupdate a few years back I never looked back at mergemaster. > > I honestly think it should be deprecated in 13.x and removed in 14.x. It’s been several major releases since it’s been unofficially deprecated. > > -Enji > For something that has been disfavored for a decade, unmaintained for at least 5 years, and now seemly unofficially deprecated, it seems strange that /usr/src/UPDATING does not mention etcupdate in the COMMON ITEMS section. % svn info UPDATING | grep -i vision Revision: 367909 % svn blame UPDATING ... 64477 imp To rebuild everything and install it on the current system. 64477 imp ----------------------------------------------------------- ... 262619 jmg mergemaster -Fp [5] 262619 jmg mergemaster -Fi [4] % svn log -r 262619 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ r262619 | jmg | 2014-02-28 11:51:47 -0800 (Fri, 28 Feb 2014) | 3 lines since -F is safe, and an update from 10-HEAD to 10-STABLE is sooo bloody anoying w/o it.. recommend people use -F too... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ etcupdate first appeared in the tree on 2012-07-13 (r238423) -- Steve From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 18:59:22 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCB914C16A0 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:59:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: from host64.shmhost.net (host64.shmhost.net [213.239.241.64]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8lKk4MYjz3lVf; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 18:59:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from franco@lastsummer.de) Received: from p200300cd872642fc98aa43474da88c86.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (p200300cd872642fc98aa43474da88c86.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [IPv6:2003:cd:8726:42fc:98aa:4347:4da8:8c86]) by host64.shmhost.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4D8lKZ40S1zNyTs; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:59:14 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.4\)) Subject: Re: git non-time-sequential logs From: Franco Fichtner In-Reply-To: <7E3C7B7F-A127-45DE-A4B2-8C42F707E5D2@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:59:12 +0100 Cc: Alan Somers , Poul-Henning Kamp , John Kennedy , Current FreeBSD Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1F692948-7329-4AFD-B9F5-9208F3C44C8E@lastsummer.de> References: <94447.1609779520@critter.freebsd.dk> <7E3C7B7F-A127-45DE-A4B2-8C42F707E5D2@gmail.com> To: Enji Cooper X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.102.4 at host64.shmhost.net X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8lKk4MYjz3lVf X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 18:59:22 -0000 > On 4. Jan 2021, at 7:52 PM, Enji Cooper wrote: >=20 > The point is to stop looking at git like svn: commits should be done = as larger bodies of work (merge commits), as opposed to single atomic = commits. Er, uh, no. ;) The author date stays the same, the committer date is sequential except that it indicates the local time of the committer doing the cherry-pick instead of the central server as opposed to svn: # git log --format=3Dfuller Cheers, Franco From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 19:02:23 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 220F24C28DE for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:02:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-qt1-x835.google.com (mail-qt1-x835.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::835]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8lPB4FmRz3mt0 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:02:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-qt1-x835.google.com with SMTP id z20so19212749qtq.3 for ; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 11:02:22 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=QnRUsxe3qgTUC6H2XnVsfJCqdEED+ppzxOrcCQ1R4To=; b=SH0bKYYomRrRwhbSWhYA2Kafbx4l9NiM+lTLar7of0ZCQfFlOK+Ufn7KU+Imhecu3M NSZ9e7Zsa9bfQyxuPscnRv6EHd48M5ClTn0szigSlEkKWBhEzzkOehsVvAzRmg09Lc5a +bMhxg16KVl9ACbDQNFyV4nEwD1EfrG4mEPl5aan7Wi/I7tfmTEY05+HkKuGCBXYDtDL l2aTxhmeu86G3CgrnRt0QfEHrrMSuHVl9ac549fPD6VN5WEOPsAkvlaEIXumEx4UG9yU qCKTcLdCJUD9pJGSYTCcxVUUfGvtji5HO8HoDGQc+O+a6P3oNQEcui6ZoOont1HQTb6Z rLBQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533BRsNCSlCEH5FWdBJ6DLmdoAFRmEGM7jeLtSIJkB8PNUljxDHN 0thrPTVTDc9CcRQ1GKSvMnsuSEgubMvDZqLdfYfefaC9g578bQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxno9yaYXBiFAhVGRfUeNOYZmdB1uoALbt1yzKEpntE71hmJMa2nPuLZKu69NNkG0acXouqRgCfvjnZrqPPmTI= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:74d4:: with SMTP id j20mr72868797qtr.101.1609786941751; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 11:02:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <83EB3B04-EAE8-4EC3-820B-2F5C3BADE948@me.com> In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 12:02:10 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: boot loader blank screen To: John Kennedy Cc: Toomas Soome , Current FreeBSD X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8lPB4FmRz3mt0 X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[me.com,freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bsdimp.com]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::835:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::835:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::835:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 19:02:23 -0000 On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 11:53 AM John Kennedy wrote: > On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 11:39:08AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > > Yea, this is a feature that needs to be fixed since black on black text > is > > a show stopper :( > > Ah, this is part of the "Terminal colours in current" thread? I saw > that, > but didn't correlate it with default black-on-black text. It looked like > more of a graphics-mode glitch (blank screen, backlit, signal) initially, > I'd > just not seen something like that bite me at the bootloader stage before. > To be fair, I'm unsure if this is a failure to draw the characters, or a color attribute failure introduced. I've not looked deeply and am jumping a bit to conclusions. Warner From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 19:11:57 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E8314C3477 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:11:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from warlock@phouka1.phouka.net) Received: from phouka1.phouka.net (phouka1.phouka.net [107.170.196.116]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "phouka.net", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8lcD6R5Lz3nd6; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:11:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from warlock@phouka1.phouka.net) Received: from phouka1.phouka.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phouka1.phouka.net (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 104JAdBX089656 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 4 Jan 2021 11:10:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from warlock@phouka1.phouka.net) Received: (from warlock@localhost) by phouka1.phouka.net (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 104JAdNc089655; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 11:10:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from warlock) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 11:10:38 -0800 From: John Kennedy To: Franco Fichtner Cc: Enji Cooper , Alan Somers , Poul-Henning Kamp , Current FreeBSD Subject: Re: git non-time-sequential logs Message-ID: References: <94447.1609779520@critter.freebsd.dk> <7E3C7B7F-A127-45DE-A4B2-8C42F707E5D2@gmail.com> <1F692948-7329-4AFD-B9F5-9208F3C44C8E@lastsummer.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1F692948-7329-4AFD-B9F5-9208F3C44C8E@lastsummer.de> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8lcD6R5Lz3nd6 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 19:11:57 -0000 On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 07:59:12PM +0100, Franco Fichtner wrote: > The author date stays the same, the committer date is sequential except > that it indicates the local time of the committer doing the cherry-pick > instead of the central server as opposed to svn: > > # git log --format=fuller That format gets me the CommitDate:, which is what I would have been looking for. Seems like the data is there, just not necessarily used (displayed) by default. Not sure what the original SVN timestamps were, but assuming GMT: (export TZ=GMT && git log --format=fuller --date=local) Maybe there are some ways to make those default options. From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 19:13:06 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45A924C384D; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:13:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zarychtam@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl) Received: from plan-b.pwste.edu.pl (plan-b.pwste.edu.pl [IPv6:2001:678:618::40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "plan-b.pwste.edu.pl", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8ldZ0LSJz3nSd; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:13:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zarychtam@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl) Received: from fomalhaut.potoki.eu ([IPv6:2001:470:71:d47:e50a:9397:cf91:e1d6]) (authenticated bits=0) by plan-b.pwste.edu.pl (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPSA id 104JD3n7064461 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 4 Jan 2021 20:13:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from zarychtam@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: plan-b.pwste.edu.pl: Host [IPv6:2001:470:71:d47:e50a:9397:cf91:e1d6] claimed to be fomalhaut.potoki.eu To: Enji Cooper Cc: FreeBSD Current , FreeBSD CURRENT References: <0F14842F-2C85-4ED3-B4C9-D2AA12A55464@gmail.com> <32e8677d-642c-204f-f89a-53a1f3bea6f7@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> <2B92ACC3-D40D-4456-BB53-98938348E13F@gmail.com> From: Marek Zarychta Subject: Re: CURRENT, usr/src on git, howto "mergemaster"? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 20:13:03 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2B92ACC3-D40D-4456-BB53-98938348E13F@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="nTQCDjeFgbHgm3qTXvEQtZ6tMYc7Vg3aH" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8ldZ0LSJz3nSd X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 19:13:06 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --nTQCDjeFgbHgm3qTXvEQtZ6tMYc7Vg3aH Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="f0gKyRQtrry9iXIQpLNPTZVHKKKs9GPGF"; protected-headers="v1" From: Marek Zarychta To: Enji Cooper Cc: FreeBSD Current , FreeBSD CURRENT Message-ID: Subject: Re: CURRENT, usr/src on git, howto "mergemaster"? References: <0F14842F-2C85-4ED3-B4C9-D2AA12A55464@gmail.com> <32e8677d-642c-204f-f89a-53a1f3bea6f7@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> <2B92ACC3-D40D-4456-BB53-98938348E13F@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2B92ACC3-D40D-4456-BB53-98938348E13F@gmail.com> --f0gKyRQtrry9iXIQpLNPTZVHKKKs9GPGF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable W dniu 04.01.2021 o=C2=A019:54, Enji Cooper pisze: >=20 >> On Jan 4, 2021, at 10:49 AM, Marek Zarychta wrote: >=20 > =E2=80=A6 >=20 >> Terrible idea IMHO, but I am only the weak voice from the userbase. >> >> It's like deprecating old, well-worn hammer in the favour of the nail >> gun. Why not deprecate biff(1), pom(6), nvi(1) etc.? >=20 > Marek, > I=E2=80=99m curious: have you used etcupdate before instead of mergema= ster? If so when? If you ran into issues (UX as well as functional): coul= d you please report them on bugs.freebsd.org ?= > etcupdate is a less fragile tool that=E2=80=99s broken my systems less= when compared with mergemaster. Dear Enji, to satisfy your curiosity: Yes, I have tried etcupdate(8) a few times over years. It works fine, but I don't like the idea of editing conflicted files. I won't complain about etcupdate(8), but please leave mergemaster(8) as is. I believe we need both: solid, fast black boxes driven it auto mode and fragile tools in the base. mergemaser is rather not a potential security hole in the system. With kind regards, --=20 Marek Zarychta --f0gKyRQtrry9iXIQpLNPTZVHKKKs9GPGF-- --nTQCDjeFgbHgm3qTXvEQtZ6tMYc7Vg3aH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="OpenPGP_signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="OpenPGP_signature" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- wsB5BAABCAAjFiEEMOqvKm6wKvS1/ZeCdZ/s//1SjSwFAl/zaL8FAwAAAAAACgkQdZ/s//1SjSzO nwf8CP1N0oIrgLViZ8cw/PhakIQABjtaSIEYV+1Pu0gNXJPpg0g8aPwJzjYR4nHYSiDlFyxXQCn0 DfNnyQ+SydHSLWSF4OYrw6G6IzPBub30pp/IxnZwL5+4jGBRsOBQgFm9CLfmND0GIR0qkreXHJUa tbAy/Cl9FHZQNh6m6eZc9vGJhxZU9XXesoL3Pb3LMpiTPnznxZrJHnT8hi2PT0BdtUILEDwEj6BF BmYp981N3fdfmrCIciPJhp/o1k3BZcOxvYNN8peQj1kAON5xVIUyHFK2RBolz0ulj6JenSat3RpP 51CjqksIesOD9v8W9FKsucAYGNheLQMm4cG8/+t5Iw== =s0h9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nTQCDjeFgbHgm3qTXvEQtZ6tMYc7Vg3aH-- From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 19:15:18 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B974C3C83; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:15:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com) Received: from aibo.runbox.com (aibo.runbox.com [91.220.196.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8lh662MRz3ntb; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:15:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com) Received: from [10.9.9.127] (helo=rmmprod05.runbox) by mailtransmit02.runbox with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kwVJz-0007T5-DD; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 20:15:15 +0100 Received: from mail by rmmprod05.runbox with local (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kwVJz-0001q4-AS; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 20:15:15 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from [Authenticated alias (650894)] by runbox.com with http (RMM6); Mon, 04 Jan 2021 19:15:15 GMT From: "Jeffrey Bouquet" To: "Marek Zarychta" CC: "Enji Cooper" , "FreeBSD Current" , "FreeBSD CURRENT" Subject: Re: CURRENT, usr/src on git, howto "mergemaster"? Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 11:15:15 -0800 (PST) X-RMM-Aliasid: 650894 X-Mailer: RMM6 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8lh662MRz3ntb X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 19:15:19 -0000 On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 20:13:03 +0100, Marek Zarychta wrote: > W dniu 04.01.2021 o=C2=A019:54, Enji Cooper pisze: > >=20 > >> On Jan 4, 2021, at 10:49 AM, Marek Zarychta wrote: > >=20 > > =E2=80=A6 > >=20 > >> Terrible idea IMHO, but I am only the weak voice from the userbase. > >> > >> It's like deprecating old, well-worn hammer in the favour of the nail > >> gun. Why not deprecate biff(1), pom(6), nvi(1) etc.? > >=20 > > Marek, > > I=E2=80=99m curious: have you used etcupdate before instead of mergema= ster? If so when? If you ran into issues (UX as well as functional): could = you please report them on bugs.freebsd.org ? > > etcupdate is a less fragile tool that=E2=80=99s broken my systems less= when compared with mergemaster. >=20 > Dear Enji, >=20 > to satisfy your curiosity: Yes, I have tried etcupdate(8) a few times > over years. It works fine, but I don't like the idea of editing > conflicted files. >=20 > I won't complain about etcupdate(8), but please leave mergemaster(8) > as is. I believe we need both: solid, fast black boxes driven it auto > mode and fragile tools in the base. mergemaser is rather not a potential > security hole in the system. >=20 > With kind regards, >=20 > --=20 > Marek Zarychta +1=20= From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 19:16:37 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB5B54C3D3A for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:16:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rlibby@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qt1-f179.google.com (mail-qt1-f179.google.com [209.85.160.179]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8ljd68d7z3pVY; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:16:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rlibby@gmail.com) Received: by mail-qt1-f179.google.com with SMTP id z20so19246736qtq.3; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 11:16:37 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=nWEfFi5+347GNFUdwj7o5RNDrVa1Nr1UzFwYk8PbbBg=; b=N12nysfVmhkJAJEgn+/QYdGH81frsMWdwrKmArVHMTImoTlE7HpxSEn/gNwuKAgzpp 4fSjiTZv5GytmxT2ttlfCwgnw29oAQUV2yLAsLhBxisTnv0CmAa6YoDjQz9CeY16yF6I zwf91kJiTcOvze/2akRunyyvtovfObPEg5yEYOIoBPCIMLpTITcbDhqH981aEECFxbWB rN5/1OrnlA64cTkYeapfbPHRURQF5yjN40ETpEiV73MpTNfPklzFnOSiAYtfxTr2ooa7 i+PqFldsJWS57jhK7vIMzHJtbTv3y7U3wfof6x94tt1AHP5sM8eRF61SnGdmeFQvHTR1 KASQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530HNP8e6W7eQLsi9D1qhAQyNWgSVJ85ffN1axoLvH3ov+lR/WXZ 6SZK5v4dYexdQ4PK4Jcp04/FZ6TVaLMhoQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz+/3oNH9TckfDEY0ThMz6SLWhYvU0eEiyYT6JxIXW1i+WLlz0YqFVltMw0o3mamb6FqpUjNg== X-Received: by 2002:aed:3b93:: with SMTP id r19mr71804245qte.222.1609787796837; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 11:16:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qk1-f171.google.com (mail-qk1-f171.google.com. [209.85.222.171]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t5sm37190798qte.20.2021.01.04.11.16.36 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 04 Jan 2021 11:16:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-qk1-f171.google.com with SMTP id 22so24402844qkf.9; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 11:16:36 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:ae9:f312:: with SMTP id p18mr71529455qkg.311.1609787796103; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 11:16:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <94447.1609779520@critter.freebsd.dk> <7E3C7B7F-A127-45DE-A4B2-8C42F707E5D2@gmail.com> <1F692948-7329-4AFD-B9F5-9208F3C44C8E@lastsummer.de> In-Reply-To: <1F692948-7329-4AFD-B9F5-9208F3C44C8E@lastsummer.de> From: Ryan Libby Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 11:16:25 -0800 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: git non-time-sequential logs To: Franco Fichtner Cc: Enji Cooper , Alan Somers , Poul-Henning Kamp , John Kennedy , Current FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8ljd68d7z3pVY X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 19:16:38 -0000 On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 11:00 AM Franco Fichtner wrote: > > > > On 4. Jan 2021, at 7:52 PM, Enji Cooper wrote: > > > > The point is to stop looking at git like svn: commits should be done as larger bodies of work (merge commits), as opposed to single atomic commits. > > Er, uh, no. ;) > > The author date stays the same, the committer date is sequential except > that it indicates the local time of the committer doing the cherry-pick > instead of the central server as opposed to svn: > > # git log --format=fuller > It's normally sequential, but with the caveat that it's ultimately arbitrary and can't be relied on unless we enforce that. GIT_COMMITTER_DATE="1970-01-01T00:00:00Z" git commit From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 19:16:43 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C2BE4C3CC1 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:16:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-qv1-xf2f.google.com (mail-qv1-xf2f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::f2f]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8ljl1HVrz3pPr for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:16:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-qv1-xf2f.google.com with SMTP id l14so13541339qvh.2 for ; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 11:16:42 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=UlvRwv+dx9VK1bZM8JfmvX+FpYiO4rLGrMWxtntHwPo=; b=MxPY6ClhJqUKbj0XD/36+9sgSc+bJ5R10X4fKrk2KUS++KoECC+mA05I3dIO8Q/T9j /WRFgFXu3dK0gckN+Q/n5510k3NRHjTHBNy5Y5XuJVdGQWqEJNxhARFUCkOur1wsFH2h s6BpEkVckfEiclDHvJHKdJqNKI+0v4cSDssuTwpHFZAIb1lWoXRBtQRo6VmNNGp+gnTR VNUEvq5pmpNgfXm38MZPis2s0ezOWgjuzmqQaqXUMeIcJq3U1ymCD1f9kqqjmYwm/Da4 5bIfBuGUQM1qyokjQ3WVx+GXyyx6meIc6GqjGxr13JF8buAB/pEJXVusJhIrH1tTLqtH nPgw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5332c6gD/pehtwGTLnc591TUY2jYL0fluD5WZX6ySku5TebqDFXO Dr37rqo2ijgZ4mEaaY9IILdjStlYsXM2R2smdJMRRQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyMePMSxH8Cga7aBtu0kSyh83KpAUAmXU3ALTgRklhcuowzlUjqn7JjNoXfi7HOfLpMD2hRFY4F4P97YAgDl0Y= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6214:16cb:: with SMTP id d11mr77602307qvz.62.1609787801600; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 11:16:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0F14842F-2C85-4ED3-B4C9-D2AA12A55464@gmail.com> <32e8677d-642c-204f-f89a-53a1f3bea6f7@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> <2B92ACC3-D40D-4456-BB53-98938348E13F@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 12:16:30 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: CURRENT, usr/src on git, howto "mergemaster"? To: Marek Zarychta Cc: Enji Cooper , FreeBSD Current , FreeBSD CURRENT X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8ljl1HVrz3pPr X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 19:16:43 -0000 On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 12:13 PM Marek Zarychta < zarychtam@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> wrote: > W dniu 04.01.2021 o 19:54, Enji Cooper pisze: > > > >> On Jan 4, 2021, at 10:49 AM, Marek Zarychta < > zarychtam@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> wrote: > > > > =E2=80=A6 > > > >> Terrible idea IMHO, but I am only the weak voice from the userbase. > >> > >> It's like deprecating old, well-worn hammer in the favour of the nail > >> gun. Why not deprecate biff(1), pom(6), nvi(1) etc.? > > > > Marek, > > I=E2=80=99m curious: have you used etcupdate before instead of > mergemaster? If so when? If you ran into issues (UX as well as functional= ): > could you please report them on bugs.freebsd.org > ? > > etcupdate is a less fragile tool that=E2=80=99s broken my systems= less > when compared with mergemaster. > > Dear Enji, > > to satisfy your curiosity: Yes, I have tried etcupdate(8) a few times > over years. It works fine, but I don't like the idea of editing > conflicted files. > > I won't complain about etcupdate(8), but please leave mergemaster(8) > as is. I believe we need both: solid, fast black boxes driven it auto > mode and fragile tools in the base. mergemaser is rather not a potential > security hole in the system. > mergemaster is on its way out. Formalizing it by deprecating in 13 means you'll be able to use it through the end of life of the 13 branch many years from now. That's plenty of time to move to the new tools and/or develop enhancements that make them easier for you to use. The knock on communicating this well is a fair one, and we'll start taking measures to fix that. Warner From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 19:25:57 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FF654C4A33; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:25:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pj1-x102c.google.com (mail-pj1-x102c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::102c]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8lwP3J93z3qCk; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:25:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pj1-x102c.google.com with SMTP id l23so211465pjg.1; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 11:25:57 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date :in-reply-to:cc:to:references; bh=CF4W2K/1aP9u7HN4GiwAXBqOki1Q3mGoxIBrMNUMPEA=; b=MisOvuMlD21zYzD6EzHJTj941b5097idsit/FgApi5UDFd/IeCtBb2LcCzI9v95+YO VgHNotqFi0JUF2d42CBav3Pr4PEKRzfjrpcIxe51rEpmK/CFcI/RlhE2yYR6TtWrAhSV iXDxIjTvx5AdoG9enYj9gC3VCwatyD0/T0StfPNltlZ/JaUxKYE4q5ELSRU9P//NCInl Z8O9sRBlQUJ6/tw7VibwRSJ88FNiD3wUeRtmKbE22n3fOPIqGlrBFlvZNtm4NWswyInP Qd4i8cKmB7YkAas+jmLgOLqCd7vGJtz3TaMbbZpgLdhAcrIsB7v2AfB6u1AKJ0Ng2EvN K9gA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533jWMrWShAVVmLP14w4oGM34l87Ni9PCFKOKqFgppbx99nlyDm3 izgGft+HfT3m5Q0xhYa6pw21XFhhJskwtg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzUAs4cIPmRuKIXTvRJxgAgVimE35Bpm49oS/ORC7OI50dSJteHOPkLqlpbVbijlAF7MHtWTA== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:8687:b029:dc:2a2c:e99b with SMTP id g7-20020a1709028687b02900dc2a2ce99bmr73295969plo.37.1609788355248; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 11:25:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.20.29] (c-73-19-52-228.hsd1.wa.comcast.net. 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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 11:25:53 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20210104185914.GA19556@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Cc: Warner Losh , Marek Zarychta , FreeBSD Current , FreeBSD CURRENT To: Steve Kargl References: <0F14842F-2C85-4ED3-B4C9-D2AA12A55464@gmail.com> <20210104185914.GA19556@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8lwP3J93z3qCk X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 19:25:57 -0000 > On Jan 4, 2021, at 10:59 AM, Steve Kargl = wrote: >=20 > On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 10:30:28AM -0800, Enji Cooper wrote: >>=20 >>> On Jan 4, 2021, at 10:19, Warner Losh wrote: >>>=20 >>> mergemaster has been on its way out since well before the switch to = git. >>> It's been disfavored for at least a decade and basically = unmaintained in >>> the base for maybe last 5 years. Apart from major breakage, only doc >>> changes have happened in that time. >>=20 >> Adding to this: it has no maintainer, it=E2=80=99s less featureful, = and it lacks tests. Once I switched to etcupdate a few years back I = never looked back at mergemaster. >>=20 >> I honestly think it should be deprecated in 13.x and removed in 14.x. = It=E2=80=99s been several major releases since it=E2=80=99s been = unofficially deprecated. >=20 > For something that has been disfavored for a decade, unmaintained > for at least 5 years, and now seemly unofficially deprecated, it > seems strange that /usr/src/UPDATING does not mention etcupdate > in the COMMON ITEMS section. >=20 > % svn info UPDATING | grep -i vision > Revision: 367909 > % svn blame UPDATING > ... > 64477 imp To rebuild everything and install it on the current = system. > 64477 imp = ----------------------------------------------------------- > ... > 262619 jmg mergemaster -Fp [5] > 262619 jmg mergemaster -Fi [4] >=20 > % svn log -r 262619 > = ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > r262619 | jmg | 2014-02-28 11:51:47 -0800 (Fri, 28 Feb 2014) | 3 lines >=20 > since -F is safe, and an update from 10-HEAD to 10-STABLE is sooo = bloody > anoying w/o it.. recommend people use -F too... > = ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >=20 > etcupdate first appeared in the tree on 2012-07-13 (r238423) As noted elsewhere in the thread: I=E2=80=99m working on it. = Here=E2=80=99s an official bug for tracking the work (in base): = https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D252417 = . I=E2=80=99l= l fill it in some more throughout the day (need to context switch back = to $dayjob). Thanks :)! -Enji From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 19:27:51 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCE204C591C; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:27:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pf1-x42c.google.com (mail-pf1-x42c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::42c]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8lyb470qz3qtZ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:27:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pf1-x42c.google.com with SMTP id s21so16981647pfu.13; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 11:27:51 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=+H5h4fA9W3PviPZrw9UIobJ2CPU1LLA3MED6bzLzO+k=; b=XRunWxziXrzEk78esCEgVNl1lwP0vMneaLES7xwR5kAxRcyYoPrkUhA8ynYLxnUgmo EJBlIBUuVahN0gpFUAupZP5xAcySm+rhHxX7g1AgiuFwPFPOnTP9Ff+7d41sGryV71Se vIa+ypEqiGuiAck+LVNHxKw4waAFxIJkVg0TUqEg4a8TDIAV/lF9w4XMBclVQlvFYCje 1vZju8brvj/HROgBzuX/ldpLuHWaueFPyozqs4Ir7eLYvm/v6FVWijUiOIR+aza5BhCM GgOoVbUv4t4zVn6sMLI30dB8fS3xPVT6Y/8RSBKFBn5mitRccYSt5n1xgqCZysQpfqs0 De9g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531Xv3yHFDPwSuDErD3SDzVV3XL7JOYRGB+FLRduJvnsiQjxnjOf SkPBhiI4F9GXy3s+eLem9MZ6dXvjvZoydg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyZPmk4qnolsZ5IP1akx+/TGbpEP4x8nsw3BA8stOuGGDRZwgPtaxkj285yKQx4UXOJqb0tpA== X-Received: by 2002:a65:5209:: with SMTP id o9mr29786699pgp.34.1609788470408; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 11:27:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.20.29] (c-73-19-52-228.hsd1.wa.comcast.net. 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From: Enji Cooper In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 11:27:48 -0800 Cc: Marek Zarychta , FreeBSD Current , FreeBSD CURRENT Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <02D5B6C7-B8DB-415A-9376-6328C0431E55@gmail.com> References: To: Jeffrey Bouquet X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8lyb470qz3qtZ X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 19:27:52 -0000 > On Jan 4, 2021, at 11:15 AM, Jeffrey Bouquet = wrote: =E2=80=A6 >> Dear Enji, >>=20 >> to satisfy your curiosity: Yes, I have tried etcupdate(8) a few times >> over years. It works fine, but I don't like the idea of editing >> conflicted files. >>=20 >> I won't complain about etcupdate(8), but please leave mergemaster(8) >> as is. I believe we need both: solid, fast black boxes driven it auto >> mode and fragile tools in the base. mergemaser is rather not a = potential >> security hole in the system. Hi Jeffrey and Marek, Could you please be more specific in your concerns? I don=E2=80=99= t mind helping resolve them, but unfortunately the concerns noted above = are a bit nebulous. Thank you! -Enji= From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 19:32:23 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 565934C7854; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:32:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (static-24-113-41-81.wavecable.com [24.113.41.81]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "ultimatedns.net", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8m3q0YRqz3rmY; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:32:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) Received: from ultimatedns.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by udns.ultimatedns.net (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTP id 104JWG2j058562; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 11:32:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 11:32:16 -0800 From: Chris To: Enji Cooper Cc: Marek Zarychta , Warner Losh , FreeBSD Current , FreeBSD CURRENT Subject: Re: CURRENT, usr/src on git, howto "mergemaster"? In-Reply-To: <15C691A6-1944-42EC-B64B-5873DFE2CB60@gmail.com> References: <0F14842F-2C85-4ED3-B4C9-D2AA12A55464@gmail.com> <32e8677d-642c-204f-f89a-53a1f3bea6f7@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> <2B92ACC3-D40D-4456-BB53-98938348E13F@gmail.com> <15C691A6-1944-42EC-B64B-5873DFE2CB60@gmail.com> User-Agent: UDNSMS/17.0 Message-ID: <3ec92cb86fe38148e69e2f6d21bca787@bsdforge.com> X-Sender: bsd-lists@bsdforge.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8m3q0YRqz3rmY X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 19:32:23 -0000 On 2021-01-04 10:58, Enji Cooper wrote: >> On Jan 4, 2021, at 10:54 AM, Enji Cooper wrote: >> >> >>> On Jan 4, 2021, at 10:49 AM, Marek Zarychta >> > wrote: >> >> … >> >>> Terrible idea IMHO, but I am only the weak voice from the userbase. >>> >>> It's like deprecating old, well-worn hammer in the favour of the nail >>> gun. Why not deprecate biff(1), pom(6), nvi(1) etc.? >> >> Marek, >> I’m curious: have you used etcupdate before instead of mergemaster? If so >> when? If you ran into issues (UX as well as functional): could you please >> report them on bugs.freebsd.org ? >> etcupdate is a less fragile tool that’s broken my systems less when >> compared with mergemaster. > > That reminds me, there is a feature gap (in the last 5~10 years I’ve used > etcupdate) that I forgot about between mergemaster and etcupdate: in > particular, > mergemaster works when adding/removing new users and groups from > /etc/passwd* and > /etc/group, respectively, dealing with mtree files, the last time I checked. > Apart > from that, I don’t see a use for mergemaster (and in which case, the feature > gap > can be trimmed down/migrated to etcupdate). mergemaster has broken the > configuration of my machines/VMs more than etcupdate has ever and I’ve used > both > tools for about the same time. TBH I've continued to use mergemaster simply out of habit, because it was the recommended/supported way of doing it from UPDATING. It started acting odd awhile back. So I went to performing mergemaster -viF to simply burn through the $Id only changes. Then diff(1)ing the the 2 trees to create a mega-patch which I could apply. I took that route with the intention of coming back to it to discover what the problem was. But never got around to it. I'm *really* glad this thread came about. Now I can move onto something that actually works as intended -- assuming /etc/(group|passwd) bits get merged. :-) --Chris > > Cheers, > -Enji > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 19:32:46 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7928D4C7877 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:32:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@gold.funkthat.com) Received: from gold.funkthat.com (gate2.funkthat.com [208.87.223.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "gate2.funkthat.com", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8m4F4ZVYz3rqf for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:32:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jmg@gold.funkthat.com) Received: from gold.funkthat.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gold.funkthat.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 104JWb3P082219 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 4 Jan 2021 11:32:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmg@gold.funkthat.com) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by gold.funkthat.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 104JWbkh082218; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 11:32:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmg) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 11:32:37 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney To: RW Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: FreeBSD src repo transitioning to git this weekend Message-ID: <20210104193237.GD31099@funkthat.com> Mail-Followup-To: RW , freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <20201218182820.1P0tK%steffen@sdaoden.eu> <20201223023242.GG31099@funkthat.com> <20201223162417.v7Ce6%steffen@sdaoden.eu> <20201229011939.GU31099@funkthat.com> <20201229210454.Lh4y_%steffen@sdaoden.eu> <20201230004620.GB31099@funkthat.com> <20201231193908.GC31099@funkthat.com> <20210101165651.7319af5a@gumby.homeunix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210101165651.7319af5a@gumby.homeunix.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 11.3-STABLE amd64 X-PGP-Fingerprint: D87A 235F FB71 1F3F 55B7 ED9B D5FF 5A51 C0AC 3D65 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: https://www.funkthat.com/ X-Resume: https://www.funkthat.com/~jmg/resume.html X-TipJar: bitcoin:13Qmb6AeTgQecazTWph4XasEsP7nGRbAPE X-to-the-FBI-CIA-and-NSA: HI! 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User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (gold.funkthat.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 04 Jan 2021 11:32:38 -0800 (PST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8m4F4ZVYz3rqf X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.80 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[jmg]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[funkthat.com]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[208.87.223.18:from]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[208.87.223.18:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[googlemail.com]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[jmg@funkthat.com,jmg@gold.funkthat.com]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:32354, ipnet:208.87.216.0/21, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[jmg@funkthat.com,jmg@gold.funkthat.com]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 19:32:46 -0000 RW wrote this message on Fri, Jan 01, 2021 at 16:56 +0000: > On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 21:25:08 -0500 > grarpamp wrote: > > > > Is there any reason to think [bittorrent] insecure? > > > > Cost under $50k of compute to break sha-1, > > AFAIK you cannot break SHA-1 in the sense of creating data that > matches a specific hash. What you can do is create a collision between > two blocks of data, varying both blocks in the process. This makes > SHA-1 unsuitable for digital signatures. TL;DR: No, SHA-1 is broken. PERIOD. SHAttered[1] (2017) created two valid PDF documents which had the same SHA-1 hash. The issue was that they were able to choose the entire document. The paper released in 2019[2] and implemented in 2020 allows for chosen-prefix attacks[3] which means that SHA-1 is broken. It allows the creation of a different message prefix, but results in the same hash. Before this, git was "secure" in that objects were prepended w/ length and size, but w/ this latest attack, those can now be changed as well, allowing someone to wholesale replace a file in git w/ a different length, and the SHA-1 hash being the same. > A *third-party* attacker cannot create a bogus torrent using a > collision attack against SHA-1 because the attacker would need to match > a specific hash value. Wrong, see above. > What may be possible is that the creator of the legitimate torrent > might create two torrents with the same hash, but this seems very > contrived and not very useful. It has all sorts of problems as a way of > delivering targeted malware. Again, wrong. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHA-1#SHAttered_%E2%80%93_first_public_collision [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHA-1#Birthday-Near-Collision_Attack_%E2%80%93_first_practical_chosen-prefix_attack [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collision_attack#Chosen-prefix_collision_attack -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not." From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 19:40:07 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8094C7B42; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:40:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (static-24-113-41-81.wavecable.com [24.113.41.81]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "ultimatedns.net", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8mDl3Gbfz3sBm; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:40:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) Received: from ultimatedns.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by udns.ultimatedns.net (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTP id 104Je3Vk051675; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 11:40:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 11:40:03 -0800 From: Chris To: Marek Zarychta Cc: Enji Cooper , FreeBSD Current , FreeBSD CURRENT Subject: Re: CURRENT, usr/src on git, howto "mergemaster"? In-Reply-To: References: <0F14842F-2C85-4ED3-B4C9-D2AA12A55464@gmail.com> <32e8677d-642c-204f-f89a-53a1f3bea6f7@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> <2B92ACC3-D40D-4456-BB53-98938348E13F@gmail.com> User-Agent: UDNSMS/17.0 Message-ID: X-Sender: bsd-lists@bsdforge.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8mDl3Gbfz3sBm X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 19:40:07 -0000 On 2021-01-04 11:13, Marek Zarychta wrote: > W dniu 04.01.2021 o 19:54, Enji Cooper pisze: >> >>> On Jan 4, 2021, at 10:49 AM, Marek Zarychta >>> wrote: >> >> … >> >>> Terrible idea IMHO, but I am only the weak voice from the userbase. >>> >>> It's like deprecating old, well-worn hammer in the favour of the nail >>> gun. Why not deprecate biff(1), pom(6), nvi(1) etc.? >> >> Marek, >> I’m curious: have you used etcupdate before instead of mergemaster? If so >> when? If you ran into issues (UX as well as functional): could you please >> report them on bugs.freebsd.org ? >> etcupdate is a less fragile tool that’s broken my systems less when >> compared with mergemaster. > > Dear Enji, > > to satisfy your curiosity: Yes, I have tried etcupdate(8) a few times > over years. It works fine, but I don't like the idea of editing > conflicted files. > > I won't complain about etcupdate(8), but please leave mergemaster(8) > as is. I believe we need both: solid, fast black boxes driven it auto > mode and fragile tools in the base. mergemaser is rather not a potential > security hole in the system. You might find it in your best interest to adopt (become a maintainer) for mergemaster(8). This would allow you to fix whatever ailments have arrived over the years, and better adapt it to work with the newly adopted git(1) SCM that is now the source of truth for /usr/src. :-) --Chris > > With kind regards, From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 19:42:32 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FDC84C8295; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:42:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zarychtam@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl) Received: from plan-b.pwste.edu.pl (plan-b.pwste.edu.pl [IPv6:2001:678:618::40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "plan-b.pwste.edu.pl", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8mHX2VC2z3tFM; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:42:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zarychtam@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl) Received: from fomalhaut.potoki.eu ([IPv6:2001:470:71:d47:e50a:9397:cf91:e1d6]) (authenticated bits=0) by plan-b.pwste.edu.pl (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPSA id 104JgTTP072503 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 4 Jan 2021 20:42:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from zarychtam@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl) X-Authentication-Warning: plan-b.pwste.edu.pl: Host [IPv6:2001:470:71:d47:e50a:9397:cf91:e1d6] claimed to be fomalhaut.potoki.eu To: Enji Cooper Cc: FreeBSD Current , FreeBSD CURRENT References: <02D5B6C7-B8DB-415A-9376-6328C0431E55@gmail.com> From: Marek Zarychta Subject: Re: CURRENT, usr/src on git, howto "mergemaster"? Message-ID: <801fffb6-71f3-615a-0bef-6198f42ea27f@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 20:42:28 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <02D5B6C7-B8DB-415A-9376-6328C0431E55@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6M4QR2ddZOALNhWUCuPgtX9EDY7xg68D5" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8mHX2VC2z3tFM X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 19:42:32 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --6M4QR2ddZOALNhWUCuPgtX9EDY7xg68D5 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="xo48gSPOmp5oseCW1kCDirUSUIF74x8o0"; protected-headers="v1" From: Marek Zarychta To: Enji Cooper Cc: FreeBSD Current , FreeBSD CURRENT Message-ID: <801fffb6-71f3-615a-0bef-6198f42ea27f@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> Subject: Re: CURRENT, usr/src on git, howto "mergemaster"? References: <02D5B6C7-B8DB-415A-9376-6328C0431E55@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <02D5B6C7-B8DB-415A-9376-6328C0431E55@gmail.com> --xo48gSPOmp5oseCW1kCDirUSUIF74x8o0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable W dniu 04.01.2021 o=C2=A020:27, Enji Cooper pisze: >=20 >> On Jan 4, 2021, at 11:15 AM, Jeffrey Bouquet wrote: >=20 > =E2=80=A6 >=20 >>> Dear Enji, >>> >>> to satisfy your curiosity: Yes, I have tried etcupdate(8) a few times= >>> over years. It works fine, but I don't like the idea of editing >>> conflicted files. >>> >>> I won't complain about etcupdate(8), but please leave mergemaster(8) >>> as is. I believe we need both: solid, fast black boxes driven it auto= >>> mode and fragile tools in the base. mergemaser is rather not a potent= ial >>> security hole in the system. >=20 > Hi Jeffrey and Marek, > Could you please be more specific in your concerns? I don=E2=80=99t mi= nd helping resolve them, but unfortunately the concerns noted above are a= bit nebulous. Dear Enji, it's probably high time to stop escalating this thread. Some people like the way in which mergemaster copes with updates, some people like etcupdate. With Git clean and smudge filters applied on local repo and $FreeBSD$ IDs regenerated, mergemaster still works great and is more ergonomic in use for at least two people. 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To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <0F14842F-2C85-4ED3-B4C9-D2AA12A55464@gmail.com> <20210104185914.GA19556@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 20:47:28 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20210104185914.GA19556@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8mPH36fgz3tVH X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[mmel@freebsd.org]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::42a:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; REPLYTO_DOM_NEQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::42a:from:127.0.2.255]; MID_RHS_MATCH_TO(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::42a:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 19:47:32 -0000 On 04.01.2021 19:59, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 10:30:28AM -0800, Enji Cooper wrote: >> >>> On Jan 4, 2021, at 10:19, Warner Losh wrote: >>> >>> mergemaster has been on its way out since well before the switch to git. >>> It's been disfavored for at least a decade and basically unmaintained in >>> the base for maybe last 5 years. Apart from major breakage, only doc >>> changes have happened in that time. >> >> Adding to this: it has no maintainer, it’s less featureful, and it lacks tests. Once I switched to etcupdate a few years back I never looked back at mergemaster. >> >> I honestly think it should be deprecated in 13.x and removed in 14.x. It’s been several major releases since it’s been unofficially deprecated. >> >> -Enji >> > > For something that has been disfavored for a decade, unmaintained > for at least 5 years, and now seemly unofficially deprecated, it > seems strange that /usr/src/UPDATING does not mention etcupdate > in the COMMON ITEMS section. > > % svn info UPDATING | grep -i vision > Revision: 367909 > % svn blame UPDATING > ... > 64477 imp To rebuild everything and install it on the current system. > 64477 imp ----------------------------------------------------------- > ... > 262619 jmg mergemaster -Fp [5] > 262619 jmg mergemaster -Fi [4] > > % svn log -r 262619 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > r262619 | jmg | 2014-02-28 11:51:47 -0800 (Fri, 28 Feb 2014) | 3 lines > > since -F is safe, and an update from 10-HEAD to 10-STABLE is sooo bloody > anoying w/o it.. recommend people use -F too... > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > etcupdate first appeared in the tree on 2012-07-13 (r238423) > Moreover mergemaster is still officially documented and recommend as only right method in FreeBSD handbook. See https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/makeworld.html. 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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 11:47:53 -0800 In-Reply-To: <801fffb6-71f3-615a-0bef-6198f42ea27f@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> Cc: FreeBSD Current , FreeBSD CURRENT To: Marek Zarychta References: <02D5B6C7-B8DB-415A-9376-6328C0431E55@gmail.com> <801fffb6-71f3-615a-0bef-6198f42ea27f@plan-b.pwste.edu.pl> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8mPm3X5nz3tXj X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 19:47:56 -0000 > On Jan 4, 2021, at 11:42 AM, Marek Zarychta = wrote: =E2=80=A6 > it's probably high time to stop escalating this thread. Some people = like > the way in which mergemaster copes with updates, some people like > etcupdate. With Git clean and smudge filters applied on local repo and > $FreeBSD$ IDs regenerated, mergemaster still works great and is more > ergonomic in use for at least two people. Hi Marek, I don=E2=80=99t take offense to your concerns. I=E2=80=99m just = trying to be direct and understand gaps there possibly are that can be = filled in in etcupdate(8). Your and others=E2=80=99 feedback is = appreciated. Thanks so much, -Enji PS While I admit that smudge filters are possible for managing diffs = with mergemaster (and I think it=E2=80=99s a novel solution =E2=80=94 = I=E2=80=99ve never heard of that before), not everyone should have to = set those up to use a core configuration tool. I find things like that = unfortunate gaps in the tooling that drives away users instead of = attracts them. I personally prefer focusing less on the nits and writing = bespoke code for system administration, so I can focus on things which = matter more to me in my life: people and nature.= From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 19:59:23 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A724C8B6F for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:59:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from driesm.michiels@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ed1-x530.google.com (mail-ed1-x530.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::530]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8mfz1Rxmz3vn4; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 19:59:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from driesm.michiels@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ed1-x530.google.com with SMTP id dk8so28699233edb.1; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 11:59:22 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date :message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-language :thread-index; bh=mVeLEveHjajTNCFyufNpl/Fw3C1x7iEIDfUpSR3tl54=; b=OdCBTtr5qIVncBQQdAFpmXczxFhWdfJW6+r6pYjFPIpgS9LjlVvvyToHK5qlNYPzx7 6PoGCVt59i88/ucF/V9oKPmKX/Sk9Iw4qRptNNH0DMHxzzLsDSDrG5epIJDbt6jtwKWF 3dvSJQmQ14JaGtWrV0VFZ9GrWT3EJSRH9SZmWXwM3eqob7zk7aqstfb7tQr2lvNT2dLw rgwCOt4lSDbUQCd4dgSwjVM3W/guum3wGzFnILhirLJZkbeFd0nXOdeqT8gpnpO6tt06 Z0bAwE4U1ltAq/x0xhZVbq2EIcWEff1CTfAfDdNjl57oevHUHl2ghqQjZU5zLEjlGniz Izcg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533Pe5l+P6TIbPzIApazssy9JbvA6DTqlx0qgcrYwX4mk9hqp3BG TMrNTUWS6Ah3XOTum52xwy0ErBsiQlaoRaaR X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxlCg068QS27yWQqy7g6S29Bqo7Zsh6PQHrrl0OLBWGZTPcspPP4K5kqKHCtAMXTdBg0CvAbg== X-Received: by 2002:a50:eb96:: with SMTP id y22mr73640436edr.91.1609790361522; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 11:59:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from DRIESPC (ptr-8sijbm7h33au6aqhm11.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be. 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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 20:59:21 +0100 Message-ID: <00b001d6e2d4$18457e80$48d07b80$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Content-Language: en-be Thread-Index: AQIYVzbYUzhgWoJ2ShosMx3N3CDnrQEBrjpLAp4jheMBaTYyZqlsrv/Q X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8mfz1Rxmz3vn4 X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::530:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::530:from:127.0.2.255]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::530:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 19:59:23 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org current@freebsd.org> On Behalf Of Michal Meloun > Sent: Monday, 4 January 2021 20:47 > To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: CURRENT, usr/src on git, howto "mergemaster"? >=20 >=20 >=20 > On 04.01.2021 19:59, Steve Kargl wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 10:30:28AM -0800, Enji Cooper wrote: > >> > >>> On Jan 4, 2021, at 10:19, Warner Losh wrote: > >>> > >>> mergemaster has been on its way out since well before the switch = to git. > >>> It's been disfavored for at least a decade and basically > >>> unmaintained in the base for maybe last 5 years. Apart from major > >>> breakage, only doc changes have happened in that time. > >> > >> Adding to this: it has no maintainer, it=E2=80=99s less featureful, = and it lacks tests. > Once I switched to etcupdate a few years back I never looked back at > mergemaster. > >> > >> I honestly think it should be deprecated in 13.x and removed in = 14.x. It=E2=80=99s > been several major releases since it=E2=80=99s been unofficially = deprecated. > >> > >> -Enji > >> > > > > For something that has been disfavored for a decade, unmaintained = for > > at least 5 years, and now seemly unofficially deprecated, it seems > > strange that /usr/src/UPDATING does not mention etcupdate in the > > COMMON ITEMS section. > > > > % svn info UPDATING | grep -i vision > > Revision: 367909 > > % svn blame UPDATING > > ... > > 64477 imp To rebuild everything and install it on the = current system. > > 64477 imp = ----------------------------------------------------------- > > ... > > 262619 jmg mergemaster -Fp [5] > > 262619 jmg mergemaster -Fi [4] > > > > % svn log -r 262619 > > = ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > r262619 | jmg | 2014-02-28 11:51:47 -0800 (Fri, 28 Feb 2014) | 3 = lines > > > > since -F is safe, and an update from 10-HEAD to 10-STABLE is sooo > > bloody anoying w/o it.. recommend people use -F too... > > = ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > > > etcupdate first appeared in the tree on 2012-07-13 (r238423) > > >=20 > Moreover mergemaster is still officially documented and recommend as = only > right method in FreeBSD handbook. See > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/makeworld.html. > World is moving, we may have new tools but each deprecation should be, = in > this order: > 1) well announced > 2) adjusted in the handbook https://reviews.freebsd.org/D27848 I'm happy to change the UPDATING entry in /usr/src/UPDATING aswell if = Enji doesn't beat me to it. Once I jumped ship to etcupdate I never looked back. Its the better tool = and hasn't broken my /etc/master.passwd since. Dries > 3) implemeted >=20 > Michal >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 20:43:54 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B34974CA19C for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 20:43:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8nfK5TPnz4T7T for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 20:43:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (v-critter.freebsd.dk [192.168.55.3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 702528A3C6; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 20:43:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 104Khp7G095363 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 4 Jan 2021 20:43:51 GMT (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: (from phk@localhost) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 104Khna7095362; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 20:43:49 GMT (envelope-from phk) To: John-Mark Gurney cc: RW , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: FreeBSD src repo transitioning to git this weekend In-reply-to: <20210104193237.GD31099@funkthat.com> From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" References: <20201218182820.1P0tK%steffen@sdaoden.eu> <20201223023242.GG31099@funkthat.com> <20201223162417.v7Ce6%steffen@sdaoden.eu> <20201229011939.GU31099@funkthat.com> <20201229210454.Lh4y_%steffen@sdaoden.eu> <20201230004620.GB31099@funkthat.com> <20201231193908.GC31099@funkthat.com> <20210101165651.7319af5a@gumby.homeunix.com> <20210104193237.GD31099@funkthat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <95360.1609793029.1@critter.freebsd.dk> Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 20:43:49 +0000 Message-ID: <95361.1609793029@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8nfK5TPnz4T7T X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[130.225.244.222:from]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[phk]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.dk]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[130.225.244.222:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[phk@phk.freebsd.dk,phk@critter.freebsd.dk]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:1835, ipnet:130.225.0.0/16, country:EU]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[phk@phk.freebsd.dk,phk@critter.freebsd.dk]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[googlemail.com,freebsd.org] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 20:43:54 -0000 -------- John-Mark Gurney writes: > SHAttered[1] (2017) created two valid PDF documents which had the same > SHA-1 hash. The issue was that they were able to choose the entire > document. Shattered is less impressive when you take into account that you can stuff as much much garbage into a PDF file as you need, without affecting the files normal function. Compact data formats, formats which leave no wiggle-room and do not offer extension-space for "attic-junk", are much harder to produce *meaningful* collisions for. (I take no opinion in where git is on that spectrum.) This is why I am very sceptical of the recent fashion of "GREASING" which the TLS WG have invented: To me that sounds like somebody is allocating wiggle-room for advanced cryptographic skullduggery. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 21:44:12 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6F5A4CDEF8 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 21:44:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rysto32@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pf1-x433.google.com (mail-pf1-x433.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::433]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8pzw0c62z4Yc1 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 21:44:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rysto32@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pf1-x433.google.com with SMTP id a188so4519986pfa.11 for ; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 13:44:11 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=proIcBY+X8bI2RkviIOFM7wU17UUMI7DT3GKYdv2FxA=; b=JJ6y/IbQbOaof0yFKz7nWvCbrEXphuToBxi7MJP7V7gJyW7NUpyau2cD5UF562NCzs 4ak1pa8MQozd/oee37NiIHPE65xQnd/K2KIRinn7bhQhWyAo2oVfj7znQjrTu5RndNLX maC/+RDoVYyZxbBRQclUeEsLn88yIEppsKgepFxBcS+MPfx5d0p19MAWk/8qUVg/uK2c ptrHThmT+DcACpdRy8RrMyY6ZFSA14XLONlsF5aLlTlukBrFXdT13KWBJEUqLmaK8Pv8 LBvos1+MO3TXDm/s1nlrWfH2Ga84BtuhyAf5tqnjvT/KeNkPPHIaqbJgnV2jBZAREoWy IGng== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM53148JQnvZswV6pEzkHyCS9+N6bZpQLRlvZ/fgehBzktQYN2BHgE 3DF/evm89YRuHJTBHS6N3qk8wYlhT6MDRX5affY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyzdtQhfjFQBx03a4Ifs/kcohLmJyV0Oe5Ecz2UjXye5K0h8VzxR8YpU/Gtp5YnXirILpmZEfgIOejcUnl6sDw= X-Received: by 2002:a62:19cb:0:b029:19e:75c2:61ec with SMTP id 194-20020a6219cb0000b029019e75c261ecmr46536086pfz.19.1609796650774; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 13:44:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20201218182820.1P0tK%steffen@sdaoden.eu> <20201223023242.GG31099@funkthat.com> <20201223162417.v7Ce6%steffen@sdaoden.eu> <20201229011939.GU31099@funkthat.com> <20201229210454.Lh4y_%steffen@sdaoden.eu> <20201230004620.GB31099@funkthat.com> <20201231193908.GC31099@funkthat.com> <20210101165651.7319af5a@gumby.homeunix.com> <20210104193237.GD31099@funkthat.com> <95361.1609793029@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: <95361.1609793029@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Ryan Stone Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 16:43:59 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: HEADS UP: FreeBSD src repo transitioning to git this weekend To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: John-Mark Gurney , RW , FreeBSD Current Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8pzw0c62z4Yc1 X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::433:from]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::433:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::433:from]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[funkthat.com,googlemail.com,freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 21:44:12 -0000 On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 3:44 PM Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > Shattered is less impressive when you take into account that you > can stuff as much much garbage into a PDF file as you need, without > affecting the files normal function. > > Compact data formats, formats which leave no wiggle-room and do not > offer extension-space for "attic-junk", are much harder to produce > *meaningful* collisions for. > > (I take no opinion in where git is on that spectrum.) FWIW, a coworker of mine had a little hobby of introducing commits into our internal repro that had hashes that all started with deadc0de. As I understand it, it was able to do this by adding an bogus attribute with the right value to the commit object. Now, brute-forcing 8 digits in the hash is one thing and doing it for all 40 is quite another, but I suspect that this demonstrates that it's *possible* to do it for a git hash, given enough computing resources. From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jan 4 22:59:29 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42D5C4D01C0 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 22:59:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tsoome@me.com) Received: from pv50p00im-tydg10021701.me.com (pv50p00im-tydg10021701.me.com [17.58.6.54]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8rfm29qpz4dxv for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 22:59:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tsoome@me.com) Received: from nazgul.lan (148-52-235-80.sta.estpak.ee [80.235.52.148]) by pv50p00im-tydg10021701.me.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 24628840655; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 22:59:19 +0000 (UTC) From: Toomas Soome Message-Id: <66908803-BA6F-4538-9D93-6F85A95108C9@me.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.40.0.2.32\)) Subject: Re: boot loader blank screen Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2021 00:59:18 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83EB3B04-EAE8-4EC3-820B-2F5C3BADE948@me.com> Cc: Current FreeBSD To: John Kennedy References: <83EB3B04-EAE8-4EC3-820B-2F5C3BADE948@me.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.40.0.2.32) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.343, 18.0.737 definitions=2021-01-04_16:2021-01-04, 2021-01-04 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-2006250000 definitions=main-2101040139 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8rfm29qpz4dxv X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.50 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[me.com]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:17.58.0.0/16]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[me.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[me.com,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[80.235.52.148:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[me.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[17.58.6.54:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:714, ipnet:17.58.0.0/20, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[me.com:s=1a1hai]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[tsoome]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[me.com:dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[17.58.6.54:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[17.58.6.54:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2021 22:59:29 -0000 > On 4. Jan 2021, at 18:30, Toomas Soome wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On 4. Jan 2021, at 18:22, John Kennedy wrote: >>=20 >> This is a little weird. >>=20 >> Somewhere between 13.0-g2ff66a915526 (Dec 30th) and -gd03fd8ede2c4 = (Dec 29th), >> I've lost the screen in the boot loader. This is really weird = because I >> didn't update the boot loader (in quite a while, actually), but I = suppose it >> might drag some stuff off of the disk and misbehave. >>=20 >> But the system boots, presumably after the countdown that I can't = see, I just >> have to SSH in from a different machine to tweak things. Just no = screen at >> all past the GELI encrypted disk password prompt (and some usual = noise as >> it complains about some padding that I've seen forever). >>=20 >> I used to just upgrade the boot loader around ZFS upgrades, and I = haven't >> done that since OpenZFS got merged. I just got overly conservative = there >> and may have missed the "all clear" for all combinations of ZFS and = the >> bootloader recognizing them. >>=20 >> The git logs in /usr/src aren't time-sequential, so maybe I shouldn't = trust >> those dates above (I pulled it ~Jan 3rd and let it compile = overnight), but >> I'm going to repull all the sources and recompile, just in case. I = might >> have initiall pulled it during the git conversion and maybe it is = confused. >>=20 >=20 > hi! >=20 > Yes, it is known defect, and I=E2=80=99m searching for cause; the = issue is with /boot/loader and BIOS text mode (unfortunately I have the = usual =E2=80=98but it is working for me=E2=80=99 case). For workaround, = you can try to either: 1 (blind) press esc to get out of boot menu, then = enter: vbe on; another option is to add hw.vga.textmode=3D=E2=80=9C0=E2=80= =9D to loader.conf. >=20 > Sorry for confusion, > toomas >=20 the 58661b3ba9eb should hopefully fix the loader text mode issue, it = would be cool if you can verify:) thanks, toomas= From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Jan 5 01:25:52 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B1C4D316D for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 01:25:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cse.cem@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ot1-f43.google.com (mail-ot1-f43.google.com [209.85.210.43]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8vvg253Kz4mPk for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 01:25:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cse.cem@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ot1-f43.google.com with SMTP id q25so27875119otn.10 for ; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 17:25:50 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:reply-to :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=VgkW089MrW/nMLb3GtZEKMxvdJA007nWspyHccD4llU=; b=ozV6XvxOf3HLImILrslkZHJK1odIn8didAlC7tSsCb5mQaKLl8kkPaQYIoy3ph8jPJ XZakz+gPonK4hQG4mgRTf6mAeLNtlyLq5e141gSH1V+P3z56mBJZ/AMd9lFsv9hcAwh8 J3lKiOVQMsLCus4Qa3lILQjxIZr1FoQN9CUU2Xnczm4M6gBcjButwd9piSyEnbln3UGm /KJKy7IT+CmMxTAh2MbPOvp3AE9J4xR+EbaXzT3FMCdyZXn0ULg5ImGTLsnYgH2ELNKY /ej7c6tCoTVXfRDf+uJz91TQWnau7mzbhcKFsnxTgfsJhDA7t6Pq8KlClhkEfJNk0wGj 5UxQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530DdrwPiI4h9b3lypIluzbPWzPQwhxxtfCVXV1GaT8kj1ihVoMU PF2fl5ygeTKwFqv6AmUJUeNUamXuKeo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzrEqyaUcKD/2e8+wdQ8gG/0McShz+yMPi8uFAqqU2/Ly236YPOLQ9ZMCwcJW3ZYK/9dEDJ0w== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:1bc6:: with SMTP id v6mr53265219ota.33.1609809949934; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 17:25:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-oi1-f173.google.com (mail-oi1-f173.google.com. [209.85.167.173]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g5sm14183669otq.43.2021.01.04.17.25.49 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 04 Jan 2021 17:25:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-oi1-f173.google.com with SMTP id q25so34324453oij.10 for ; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 17:25:49 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:aca:e007:: with SMTP id x7mr1153188oig.8.1609809949541; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 17:25:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20201218182820.1P0tK%steffen@sdaoden.eu> <20201223023242.GG31099@funkthat.com> <20201223162417.v7Ce6%steffen@sdaoden.eu> <20201229011939.GU31099@funkthat.com> <20201229210454.Lh4y_%steffen@sdaoden.eu> <20201230004620.GB31099@funkthat.com> <20201231193908.GC31099@funkthat.com> <20210101165651.7319af5a@gumby.homeunix.com> <20210104193237.GD31099@funkthat.com> <95361.1609793029@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: Reply-To: cem@freebsd.org From: Conrad Meyer Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 17:25:38 -0800 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: HEADS UP: FreeBSD src repo transitioning to git this weekend To: Ryan Stone Cc: FreeBSD Current Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8vvg253Kz4mPk X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[cem@freebsd.org]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[209.85.210.43:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[cem@freebsd.org,csecem@gmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[cem@freebsd.org,csecem@gmail.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[209.85.210.43:from]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[209.85.210.43:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[209.85.210.43:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2021 01:25:52 -0000 On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 1:44 PM Ryan Stone wrote: > FWIW, a coworker of mine had a little hobby of introducing commits > into our internal repro that had hashes that all started with > deadc0de. As I understand it, it was able to do this by adding an > bogus attribute with the right value to the commit object. Yeah, the git commit object is essentially text with some headers, and the git tools are all permissive of unrecognized headers. You can create a "visually identical" commit (same commit message, parent commit(s), author/committer/dates, etc) by just adding an extra header with an arbitrary value and brute force on that value to find a vanity prefix. This isn't anything related to the SHA1 attacks, it's just brute-forcing the output of a truncated SHA1 to a 1-in-2^32 result. E.g., https://github.com/cemeyer/gitbrutec does it by injecting a header named "x-gitbrutec-nonce." $ git cat-file -p 0000009 tree 4e778673b8af45ecd4c62e8b1d1438d06db7f440 parent 00000080b4fc4c2066fa05641e73d5f0985c15ea author Conrad Meyer 1590357489 -0700 committer Conrad Meyer 1590357489 -0700 x-gitbrutec-nonce YYZSKGIQCLLXGE Use 'git update-ref' in post-commit example ... > Now, > brute-forcing 8 digits in the hash is one thing and doing it for all > 40 is quite another, but I suspect that this demonstrates that it's > *possible* to do it for a git hash, given enough computing resources. SHA1 has always, by design, been vulnerable to a 2^80 resource attack :-). 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[209.85.167.172]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m3sm14681321ots.72.2021.01.04.17.28.04 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 04 Jan 2021 17:28:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-oi1-f172.google.com with SMTP id w124so34369860oia.6 for ; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 17:28:04 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:a54:4e81:: with SMTP id c1mr1161155oiy.52.1609810084065; Mon, 04 Jan 2021 17:28:04 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20201218182820.1P0tK%steffen@sdaoden.eu> <20201223023242.GG31099@funkthat.com> <20201223162417.v7Ce6%steffen@sdaoden.eu> <20201229011939.GU31099@funkthat.com> <20201229210454.Lh4y_%steffen@sdaoden.eu> <20201230004620.GB31099@funkthat.com> <20201231193908.GC31099@funkthat.com> <20210101165651.7319af5a@gumby.homeunix.com> <20210104193237.GD31099@funkthat.com> <95361.1609793029@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: Reply-To: cem@freebsd.org From: Conrad Meyer Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 17:27:52 -0800 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: HEADS UP: FreeBSD src repo transitioning to git this weekend To: Ryan Stone Cc: FreeBSD Current Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8vyF46vFz4mp7 X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[cem@freebsd.org]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[209.85.161.48:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17:c]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[cem@freebsd.org,csecem@gmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[209.85.161.48:from]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[cem@freebsd.org,csecem@gmail.com]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[209.85.161.48:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[209.85.161.48:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2021 01:28:06 -0000 Typo: On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 5:25 PM Conrad Meyer wrote: > SHA1 has always, by design, been vulnerable to a 2^80 resource attack :-). 2^160 for a specific hash. 2^80 if you're just trying to find any collision. 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RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2021 01:58:15 -0000 Toomas, I had more success with this patch, applied on top of 7beeacb27b27 (in other words: call vbe_is_vga() from cons_update_mode() instead of vidc_install_font() ): diff --git a/stand/i386/libi386/vbe.c b/stand/i386/libi386/vbe.c index 7681eb633b8..1fee4f040f4 100644 --- a/stand/i386/libi386/vbe.c +++ b/stand/i386/libi386/vbe.c @@ -1105,6 +1105,15 @@ vbe_default_mode(void) return (modenum); } +bool +vbe_is_vga(void) +{ + if (vbe =3D=3D NULL) + return (false); + + return ((vbe->Capabilities & VBE_CAP_NONVGA) =3D=3D 0); +} + COMMAND_SET(vbe, "vbe", "vesa framebuffer mode management", command_vesa); int diff --git a/stand/i386/libi386/vbe.h b/stand/i386/libi386/vbe.h index ff28b960df9..7d07d9ee518 100644 --- a/stand/i386/libi386/vbe.h +++ b/stand/i386/libi386/vbe.h @@ -161,3 +161,4 @@ int vbe_set_mode(int); int vbe_get_mode(void); int vbe_set_palette(const struct paletteentry *, size_t); void vbe_modelist(int); +bool vbe_is_vga(void); diff --git a/stand/i386/libi386/vidconsole.c b/stand/i386/libi386/vidconsol= e.c index b4829db1ea4..22708032a49 100644 --- a/stand/i386/libi386/vidconsole.c +++ b/stand/i386/libi386/vidconsole.c @@ -907,7 +907,8 @@ cons_update_mode(bool use_gfx_mode) unsetenv("screen.width"); unsetenv("screen.depth"); unsetenv("kern.vt.fb.default_mode"); - vidc_install_font(); + if (!vbe_is_vga()) + vidc_install_font(); } free(screen_buffer); Op ma 4 jan. 2021 om 23:59 schreef Toomas Soome : > > > > > On 4. Jan 2021, at 18:30, Toomas Soome wrote: > > > > > > > >> On 4. Jan 2021, at 18:22, John Kennedy wrote: > >> > >> This is a little weird. > >> > >> Somewhere between 13.0-g2ff66a915526 (Dec 30th) and -gd03fd8ede2c4 (De= c 29th), > >> I've lost the screen in the boot loader. This is really weird because= I > >> didn't update the boot loader (in quite a while, actually), but I supp= ose it > >> might drag some stuff off of the disk and misbehave. > >> > >> But the system boots, presumably after the countdown that I can't see,= I just > >> have to SSH in from a different machine to tweak things. Just no scre= en at > >> all past the GELI encrypted disk password prompt (and some usual noise= as > >> it complains about some padding that I've seen forever). > >> > >> I used to just upgrade the boot loader around ZFS upgrades, and I have= n't > >> done that since OpenZFS got merged. I just got overly conservative th= ere > >> and may have missed the "all clear" for all combinations of ZFS and th= e > >> bootloader recognizing them. > >> > >> The git logs in /usr/src aren't time-sequential, so maybe I shouldn't = trust > >> those dates above (I pulled it ~Jan 3rd and let it compile overnight),= but > >> I'm going to repull all the sources and recompile, just in case. I mi= ght > >> have initiall pulled it during the git conversion and maybe it is conf= used. > >> > > > > hi! > > > > Yes, it is known defect, and I=E2=80=99m searching for cause; the issue= is with /boot/loader and BIOS text mode (unfortunately I have the usual = =E2=80=98but it is working for me=E2=80=99 case). For workaround, you can t= ry to either: 1 (blind) press esc to get out of boot menu, then enter: vbe = on; another option is to add hw.vga.textmode=3D=E2=80=9C0=E2=80=9D to loade= r.conf. > > > > Sorry for confusion, > > toomas > > > > the 58661b3ba9eb should hopefully fix the loader text mode issue, it woul= d be cool if you can verify:) > > thanks, > toomas > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Jan 5 04:06:44 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE014D7C86 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 04:06:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dg@dglawrence.com) Received: from dglawrence.com (dglawrence.com [50.76.111.10]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mailx.dglawrence.com", Issuer "mailx.dglawrence.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8zTJ2Khqz3BxY for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 04:06:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dg@dglawrence.com) Received: from mailx.dglawrence.com ([10.19.1.8]) by dglawrence.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 10546Yrb082075 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 4 Jan 2021 20:06:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dg@dglawrence.com) Received: (from dg@localhost) by mailx.dglawrence.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 10546YQ5082074; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 20:06:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dg@dglawrence.com) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 20:06:34 -0800 From: David G Lawrence To: Warner Losh Cc: Current FreeBSD Subject: Re: git non-time-sequential logs Message-ID: <20210105040634.GF4278@mailx.dglawrence.com> References: <94447.1609779520@critter.freebsd.dk> <94622.1609782682@critter.freebsd.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (dglawrence.com [10.19.1.8]); Mon, 04 Jan 2021 20:06:35 -0800 (PST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8zTJ2Khqz3BxY X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2021 04:06:44 -0000 > Yes. Git has never been a true/pure VCS. However, it does offer enough > VCS-like features to create a shared distributed versioned tree that's > useful to the project. > > As for date order, we could also add a commit hook that requires the date > to be properly set, but that creates friction for developers. Is that > friction worth the benefits? I don't think so, but as you say we could also > add notes... but since there's no checkout by date feature, I'm not sure > what good it would do. Warner, Why is it that the project can't continue to operate the SVN server in addition to Git, gatewaying with -current as is being done with 12-stable? As a developer, I definitely need monotonic revision numbers and reliable dates when I'm trying to troubleshoot a regression. I understand that you want better 'collaboration' in FreeBSD, but why can't we have the best of both worlds? -DG * David Greenman-Lawrence * * Pave the road of life with opportunities. From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Jan 5 04:09:49 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB7F4D7BD8 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 04:09:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from warlock@phouka1.phouka.net) Received: from phouka1.phouka.net (phouka1.phouka.net [107.170.196.116]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "phouka.net", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8zXr1f0Nz3CQB for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 04:09:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from warlock@phouka1.phouka.net) Received: from phouka1.phouka.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phouka1.phouka.net (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 10548UHV098559 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 4 Jan 2021 20:08:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from warlock@phouka1.phouka.net) Received: (from warlock@localhost) by phouka1.phouka.net (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 10548UkJ098558; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 20:08:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from warlock) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 20:08:30 -0800 From: John Kennedy To: Idwer Vollering Cc: Toomas Soome , Current FreeBSD Subject: Re: boot loader blank screen Message-ID: References: <83EB3B04-EAE8-4EC3-820B-2F5C3BADE948@me.com> <66908803-BA6F-4538-9D93-6F85A95108C9@me.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8zXr1f0Nz3CQB X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.80 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[me.com,freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[phouka.net]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[107.170.196.116:from]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[107.170.196.116:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[warlock@phouka.net,warlock@phouka1.phouka.net]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14061, ipnet:107.170.192.0/18, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[warlock@phouka.net,warlock@phouka1.phouka.net]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2021 04:09:49 -0000 Op ma 4 jan. 2021 om 23:59 schreef Toomas Soome : > the 58661b3ba9eb should hopefully fix the loader text mode issue, it would be cool if you can verify:) No, sorry... On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 02:58:02AM +0100, Idwer Vollering wrote: > I had more success with this patch, applied on top of 7beeacb27b27 (in > other words: call vbe_is_vga() from cons_update_mode() instead of > vidc_install_font() ): ... ... and that patch didn't work for me either. Although, in my case, it is on top of main-c255599-g58661b3ba9eb. From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Jan 5 08:17:26 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDF6C4DCD09 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 08:17:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D952Y4JrRz3PK5 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 08:17:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (v-critter.freebsd.dk [192.168.55.3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 467A98A3C6; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 08:17:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 1058HMM4097566 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 5 Jan 2021 08:17:22 GMT (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: (from phk@localhost) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 1058HLkF097565; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 08:17:21 GMT (envelope-from phk) To: David G Lawrence cc: Warner Losh , Current FreeBSD Subject: Re: git non-time-sequential logs In-reply-to: <20210105040634.GF4278@mailx.dglawrence.com> From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" References: <94447.1609779520@critter.freebsd.dk> <94622.1609782682@critter.freebsd.dk> <20210105040634.GF4278@mailx.dglawrence.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <97563.1609834641.1@critter.freebsd.dk> Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2021 08:17:21 +0000 Message-ID: <97564.1609834641@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D952Y4JrRz3PK5 X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[130.225.244.222:from]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[phk]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.dk]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[130.225.244.222:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[phk@phk.freebsd.dk,phk@critter.freebsd.dk]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:1835, ipnet:130.225.0.0/16, country:EU]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[phk@phk.freebsd.dk,phk@critter.freebsd.dk]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2021 08:17:26 -0000 -------- David G Lawrence writes: > Why is it that the project can't continue to operate the SVN server in > addition to Git, gatewaying with -current as is being done with 12-stable? David, With all due respect: That question has been asked and answered so many times now, that it's time to stop asking it and move on. And mind you: Nothing prevents you, or any other person who cannot live without SVN, from providing that service yourself. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Jan 5 09:45:01 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A3914DF0F9 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 09:45:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grarpamp@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ej1-x62e.google.com (mail-ej1-x62e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::62e]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D96zc3X9Fz3kjX for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 09:45:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grarpamp@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ej1-x62e.google.com with SMTP id lt17so40414512ejb.3 for ; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 01:45:00 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=XLHS0ixdO3IS0VbE5Ntw1ynPw60hlhMg5P4FmV/md38=; b=IOdxCRU8NH1E1KTUcpbgdhT2d9u9KSJfKhZoKih/pZk03YJxkNrbiWjdG8z8mIBVKm WN/3NJov4gAPJN0BOv8ige1gkBFMKNaC29jSiMXgYNl+n+XOzcbIHF8rbNH5csS/fPkD 4z23No3YrGBM0Lcxsp3zS6r+n8PHnCylKZeF1lkiO6me7J+XYyLckU2gtNataUZ4jy6n MvvIWFrGkATGUR12qDJ0wNIj7CQq6d069dUi4h9dBWGonYSTanKFenBywLdv8sXl8wNW gKtxcET8UJ3xkd+VhMXQ4QA/Lo3m0Ep5C6mwhS0qN8z5CUgbis/HMtXBYFe6oEEiks14 pmyg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5318nbOCAw8BBbDn2LFUOTeWWPo+9BJNM0lzZgxTL/aCtae1G201 lxUZPwtjHHp8vqGGQvYN2QAusy4ZlFi+Z7Gas699nxIakb7irA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJymfF+mA1BiKFeeDSYfAsX1WyWezOe9czDlvya4clb6KOcwU50bhMfXGDa/B45fpc0E3ayh91sCdIVPxgvOtQA= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:c83b:: with SMTP id dd27mr71054549ejb.356.1609839898719; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 01:44:58 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a54:3d8d:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 01:44:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20210105040634.GF4278@mailx.dglawrence.com> References: <94447.1609779520@critter.freebsd.dk> <94622.1609782682@critter.freebsd.dk> <20210105040634.GF4278@mailx.dglawrence.com> From: grarpamp Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2021 04:44:58 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: git non-time-sequential logs To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D96zc3X9Fz3kjX X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::62e:from]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::62e:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::62e:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2021 09:45:01 -0000 > Why is it that the project can't continue to operate the SVN server in > addition to Git, gatewaying with -current as is being done with 12-stable? > As a developer, I definitely need monotonic revision numbers and reliable > dates when I'm trying to troubleshoot a regression. I understand that you > want better 'collaboration' in FreeBSD, but why can't we have the best of > both worlds? Unlimited best worlds are already free to exist. In addition to the internet's good suggestions how to use the forms of "revision numbers" already in git, and the internet's many good tutorials on how to learn, use, adopt, adapt and live breathe git, FreeBSD has chosen git for this time. It appears unsensible to expect any opensource project or OS to continue operation and maintenance of N x different repos and different repo camps in perpetuity because minor minority seeks some small feature. A feature in shipped code for users ok, but not in raw project overhead. Look at the entirety of Linux and Github's thousands of big projects... who there is leaving git these days to get number feature? The way forward is to explore how those git projects use git to "troubleshoot regressions" as obviously they are performing that function well everyday, without regard to such numbers or dates. If people find they need numbers or anything else, they can also get together and offsite host great import "gateway" services (or on their own locally), publish wrapper script ports, metainfo db's, etc... those best worlds are really unlimited and infinitely customizable as needed, so much can be done there :) Though since FreeBSD (and almost all world of public code repos) has chosen git and abandoned SVN etc, it's unsensible to expect a project efficiently on one repo (FreeBSD on git) to really interact using such N x repos within itself... it's overhead. The good people running those N x repos will need to speak git upstream, or at least send up patch format. That is the normal history of [mass effect] migrations. For more "best worlds"... Now can call to deploy RCS too, "because" pretty version numbers, wastes zero time on security concerns, etc. And call to pass around tarballs on tape too, "because" tape is reliable and can hold every revision and iso and pkg of every OS on one 580TiB raw cart, 2+PiB compressed ;) And as far as which of N x services to examine offsite, rather than boring numbers, perhaps it would be more academically interesting to learn a bit about the crypto primitives, distribution network, and database behind some things like https://monotone.ca/ Or anything about any other repos far more novel or new than any of those above. Since one day people might have to leave some formerly thought "needed" feature of git behind in order to be carried by and follow the world into one of those repos in the future as well. They might even be the ones abandoning their thoughts first in order to carry and lead others there. From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Jan 5 12:01:37 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 489834E316D for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 12:01:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ftp51246-2575596@sh4-5.1blu.de) Received: from smh-06.1blu.de (smh-06.1blu.de [178.254.0.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D9B1D3lV3z3tJG for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 12:01:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ftp51246-2575596@sh4-5.1blu.de) Received: from [172.16.29.5] (helo=sh4-5.1blu.de) by smh-06.1blu.de with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kwl1p-0006d6-Mh for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 13:01:34 +0100 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by sh4-5.1blu.de with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kwl1p-0004ed-Jl for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 13:01:33 +0100 Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2021 13:01:33 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: kldxref: /boot/kernel/kernel: too many segments Message-ID: <20210105120133.GA9@sh4-5.1blu.de> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT r314251 (amd64) X-message-flag: Mails containing HTML will not be read! 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User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D9B1D3lV3z3tJG X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.90 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[guru@unixarea.de]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[178.254.0.206:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[unixarea.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[178.254.0.206:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[guru@unixarea.de,ftp51246-2575596@sh4-5.1blu.de]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[178.254.0.206:from]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:42730, ipnet:178.254.0.0/19, country:DE]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[guru@unixarea.de,ftp51246-2575596@sh4-5.1blu.de]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2021 12:01:37 -0000 Hello, On an amd64 system r314251 a world and kernel built fine from SVN r368166 the installation with # make installkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC endet with the following messages install -T release -o root -g wheel -m 555 zlib.ko /boot/kernel/ install -T dbg -o root -g wheel -m 555 zlib.ko.debug /usr/lib/debug/boot/kernel/ kldxref /boot/kernel kldxref: /boot/kernel/kernel: too many segments -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Installing kernel GENERIC completed on Tue Jan 5 12:50:59 CET 2021 -------------------------------------------------------------- What should I do before rebooting to continue with the installation of world? Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-176-38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Jan 5 12:11:23 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C526E4E3656 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 12:11:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@gojira.at) Received: from mail.bsd4all.net (mail.bsd4all.net [94.130.200.20]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.bsd4all.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D9BDV4vxGz3tWv for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 12:11:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@gojira.at) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2021 13:11:14 +0100 From: "Herbert J. Skuhra" To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kldxref: /boot/kernel/kernel: too many segments Message-ID: References: <20210105120133.GA9@sh4-5.1blu.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210105120133.GA9@sh4-5.1blu.de> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D9BDV4vxGz3tWv X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.50 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gojira.at:s=mail202005]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:94.130.200.20]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[gojira.at]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[94.130.200.20:from:127.0.2.255]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gojira.at:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[94.130.200.20:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:94.130.0.0/16, country:DE]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2021 12:11:23 -0000 On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 01:01:33PM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > Hello, > > On an amd64 system r314251 a world and kernel built fine from SVN r368166 the > installation with > > # make installkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC > > endet with the following messages > > install -T release -o root -g wheel -m 555 zlib.ko /boot/kernel/ > install -T dbg -o root -g wheel -m 555 zlib.ko.debug /usr/lib/debug/boot/kernel/ > kldxref /boot/kernel > kldxref: /boot/kernel/kernel: too many segments > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> Installing kernel GENERIC completed on Tue Jan 5 12:50:59 CET 2021 > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > What should I do before rebooting to continue with the installation of > world? Just to be on the safe side (test the kernel): 1. rm /boot/kernel and mv /boot/kernel.old /boot/kernel If you are using UFS: 2. make installkernel KODIR=/boot/testkernel 3. nextboot -k testkernel If you are using ZFS: Use bectl and zfsbootcfg. -- Herbert From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Jan 5 13:08:27 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 352E74E4C58 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 13:08:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@catflap.org) Received: from donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [IPv6:2001:19f0:300:2185:123::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D9CVM0tQGz4RZp; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 13:08:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@catflap.org) Received: from donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [104.207.135.49]) by donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id 105D8JlD060929 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 5 Jan 2021 13:08:19 GMT (envelope-from jamie@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net) Received: (from jamie@localhost) by donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id 105D8IMh060928; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 13:08:18 GMT (envelope-from jamie) From: Jamie Landeg-Jones Message-Id: <202101051308.105D8IMh060928@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2021 13:08:18 +0000 Organization: Dyslexic Fish To: rlibby@freebsd.org, imp@bsdimp.com Cc: warlock@phouka.net, phk@phk.freebsd.dk, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, asomers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: git non-time-sequential logs References: <94447.1609779520@critter.freebsd.dk> <94622.1609782682@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [104.207.135.49]); Tue, 05 Jan 2021 13:08:19 +0000 (GMT) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D9CVM0tQGz4RZp X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2021 13:08:27 -0000 Ryan Libby wrote: > On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 10:08 AM Warner Losh wrote: > ... > > As for date order, we could also add a commit hook that requires the date > > to be properly set, but that creates friction for developers. Is that > > friction worth the benefits? I don't think so, but as you say we could also > > add notes... but since there's no checkout by date feature, I'm not sure > > what good it would do. > > Not a vote one way or the other, but it would at least make > git log --since more meaningful. Not having timestamps on files cloned or viewed in cgit.freebsd.org is a nightmare too. From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Jan 5 16:46:03 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 033DB4C223F for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 16:46:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-qk1-x734.google.com (mail-qk1-x734.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::734]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D9JKQ2016z4jVy for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 16:46:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-qk1-x734.google.com with SMTP id z11so27056189qkj.7 for ; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 08:46:02 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=o+wAaCL9x8eyER7leH2KU+ero3tUe0yv8QGI2xhvkCc=; b=fLw1yQ8EMg1QktByEiIWfOtvSpBO44mjbUkIs5A3pC1YYnyU6tjsGVjrNJQZ+zHOmC Wf5YPh+Nd8DJJuVdFQRGeAG4RgWe2cF6BnGS9TvHy89kp4hZr1o4HaHyTAhmuMkd4awE tbl3S5vHwf0J1nkBY7eobcCaB40ICjRjBb6Z1QAwtSbVYnOMg2ytrWEFIXF0AmufOE4b 1pxzkcrpk4NbyLJLiZsO9heJ9WOvpn+4mhPhZvP059WbzSjN0wEDBEE/YQUksmUYe8yE LU/Brq9HkGmjY3QcK834DOgET1zAfN7MVOewbYUVRntazZ2YiSFbVUcZc3+4Neo3s+NR 0RZQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531TqVtzX/+djk9zRI/UnbyHA1IDaiG7rl6hq4v5qHYEAESvr5K/ Mq02R+09705tw74QQ0Soeh+zGnde5OjTPrJIo1M1UUBxAHw/YXJP X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxYz3bf9IipF4f6svM6Ni0d7WCYcv7ZYOZ9pfsnsCo3CaUXJoGxUhbhcjL8iAd9ZXcNsg9DnftEYabtLCRtKBM= X-Received: by 2002:ae9:ebd5:: with SMTP id b204mr328620qkg.195.1609865161297; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 08:46:01 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <94447.1609779520@critter.freebsd.dk> <94622.1609782682@critter.freebsd.dk> <20210105040634.GF4278@mailx.dglawrence.com> In-Reply-To: <20210105040634.GF4278@mailx.dglawrence.com> From: Warner Losh Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2021 09:45:50 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: git non-time-sequential logs To: David G Lawrence Cc: Current FreeBSD X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D9JKQ2016z4jVy X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.99 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bsdimp.com]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::734:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::734:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.994]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::734:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2021 16:46:03 -0000 On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 9:06 PM David G Lawrence wrote: > > Yes. Git has never been a true/pure VCS. However, it does offer enough > > VCS-like features to create a shared distributed versioned tree that's > > useful to the project. > > > > As for date order, we could also add a commit hook that requires the date > > to be properly set, but that creates friction for developers. Is that > > friction worth the benefits? I don't think so, but as you say we could > also > > add notes... but since there's no checkout by date feature, I'm not sure > > what good it would do. > > Warner, > > Why is it that the project can't continue to operate the SVN server in > addition to Git, gatewaying with -current as is being done with 12-stable? > As a developer, I definitely need monotonic revision numbers and reliable > dates when I'm trying to troubleshoot a regression. I understand that you > want better 'collaboration' in FreeBSD, but why can't we have the best of > both worlds? > Hi David, We purposely decided not to mirror main -> head. This is a conversion and git is the source of truth. Mirroring to head would have created additional demand for the continued generation of git notes to coordinate the subversion rXXXX numbers than just having it be for stable/12. The script that's been written, but delayed due to illness just publishes changes to subversion: nothing more. Even this simple design took more time and effort than anticipated. Mirroring to stable/12 only gives an effective end date for subversion. Git does provide you the tools you want to do bisection, they are just a bit different. Just as subversion provided new tools that CVS didn't, git does the same. Subversion was also unfamiliar at first and took some time to understand its paradigms and how they differed from CVS. They also sounded scary and crazy at the time, but turned out to be more fear of the unknown rather than actual problems in practice. Git provides a revision count on a branch (or since inception) that can be used to soften the blow of rXXXX numbers going away that's almost the same (it won't coordinate between branches, but then we rarely needed that property of rXXXX numbers). Git doesn't provide checkout by date, but we've not needed that since CVS days when it was the only way to bisect a change (though I will admit it was handy to be able to do it, one can still do it, but with a little more effort and fuzziness). So to do the mirroring back to subversion was hard, created logistical issues, and was one more thing that needed care and feeding. As such, we limited its scope to limit the extra work for the project and to time-bound how long that obligation lasts. Warner From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Jan 5 16:47:58 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B83A4C2742 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 16:47:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-qt1-x835.google.com (mail-qt1-x835.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::835]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D9JMf2Kj8z4kCb for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 16:47:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-qt1-x835.google.com with SMTP id z20so108469qtq.3 for ; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 08:47:58 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=a9gjymWuyICYHrib//iUOGiptwsatH6qQ1RJKWlw3hk=; b=oG6UTv+8ctHWg0nnnbLWTaD1WMJT57SwCjvSwfkjNSKEBmVni5X3N3QgSyOoPFHOm9 XkV38NhbvE/I7G+l6nUomX8/EKBfETQ4o7QL9Js7rq19jroJ9FY96XpEmK/YKhCtD440 3b/K2ZvL7G8FfkmBU7mNZcb6oo5wHgqCMqJXiUfKpLmhLj21HLdHcoUUUPa0uYBIf5dV 1eG19ZZ8f3GVWXqW9K7I4krkdFqiklv76PMfNp+miRBHrrGb8e1nrDZCTmv9W1vA9IK0 TWv4mBOq0Aw05axem6CgtMjQROIqOzUrAkTGIvcfjEuK55nNH/HTSscsceSerIokZh17 OTMg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533FKRy5M89/w0KxC+4RWBylI4f1gZUp2w8u1RHo1IjzEVcmuAAD R/Z55oIYA9C5B88Z+zSGJPVrZKT38UyJHcX+poAsOQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxKggkRjfKRZMo0AnSm/ozhkSHDA9lVcKjTPCQQsGulivF1t6NMZFmIhffaj4t97HmIDO1PFMG6M6NPLIWBWNA= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:4910:: with SMTP id e16mr360114qtq.244.1609865276039; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 08:47:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <94447.1609779520@critter.freebsd.dk> <94622.1609782682@critter.freebsd.dk> <202101051308.105D8IMh060928@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> In-Reply-To: <202101051308.105D8IMh060928@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> From: Warner Losh Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2021 09:47:45 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: git non-time-sequential logs To: Jamie Landeg-Jones Cc: Ryan Libby , John Kennedy , Poul-Henning Kamp , FreeBSD Current , Alan Somers X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D9JMf2Kj8z4kCb X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2021 16:47:58 -0000 On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 6:08 AM Jamie Landeg-Jones wrote: > Ryan Libby wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 10:08 AM Warner Losh wrote: > > ... > > > As for date order, we could also add a commit hook that requires the > date > > > to be properly set, but that creates friction for developers. Is that > > > friction worth the benefits? I don't think so, but as you say we could > also > > > add notes... but since there's no checkout by date feature, I'm not > sure > > > what good it would do. > > > > Not a vote one way or the other, but it would at least make > > git log --since more meaningful. > > Not having timestamps on files cloned or viewed in cgit.freebsd.org is a > nightmare too. > I just clicked through and saw several time stamps quite trivially. Could you be more specific in your complaint? Warner From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Jan 5 19:36:03 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFA674C759A for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 19:36:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D9N5b5scZz3C8y; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 19:36:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from John-Baldwins-MacBook-Pro.local (unknown [IPv6:2601:648:8681:1cb0:11:fde3:f137:e47f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: jhb) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 613771B4C; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 19:36:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Subject: Re: git non-time-sequential logs To: John Kennedy , Current FreeBSD References: From: John Baldwin Autocrypt: addr=jhb@FreeBSD.org; keydata= mQGiBETQ+XcRBADMFybiq69u+fJRy/0wzqTNS8jFfWaBTs5/OfcV7wWezVmf9sgwn8TW0Dk0 c9MBl0pz+H01dA2ZSGZ5fXlmFIsee1WEzqeJzpiwd/pejPgSzXB9ijbLHZ2/E0jhGBcVy5Yo /Tw5+U/+laeYKu2xb0XPvM0zMNls1ah5OnP9a6Ql6wCgupaoMySb7DXm2LHD1Z9jTsHcAQMD /1jzh2BoHriy/Q2s4KzzjVp/mQO5DSm2z14BvbQRcXU48oAosHA1u3Wrov6LfPY+0U1tG47X 1BGfnQH+rNAaH0livoSBQ0IPI/8WfIW7ub4qV6HYwWKVqkDkqwcpmGNDbz3gfaDht6nsie5Z pcuCcul4M9CW7Md6zzyvktjnbz61BADGDCopfZC4of0Z3Ka0u8Wik6UJOuqShBt1WcFS8ya1 oB4rc4tXfSHyMF63aPUBMxHR5DXeH+EO2edoSwViDMqWk1jTnYza51rbGY+pebLQOVOxAY7k do5Ordl3wklBPMVEPWoZ61SdbcjhHVwaC5zfiskcxj5wwXd2E9qYlBqRg7QeSm9obiBCYWxk d2luIDxqaGJARnJlZUJTRC5vcmc+iGAEExECACAFAkTQ+awCGwMGCwkIBwMCBBUCCAMEFgID AQIeAQIXgAAKCRBy3lIGd+N/BI6RAJ9S97fvbME+3hxzE3JUyUZ6vTewDACdE1stFuSfqMvM jomvZdYxIYyTUpC5Ag0ERND5ghAIAPwsO0B7BL+bz8sLlLoQktGxXwXQfS5cInvL17Dsgnr3 1AKa94j9EnXQyPEj7u0d+LmEe6CGEGDh1OcGFTMVrof2ZzkSy4+FkZwMKJpTiqeaShMh+Goj XlwIMDxyADYvBIg3eN5YdFKaPQpfgSqhT+7El7w+wSZZD8pPQuLAnie5iz9C8iKy4/cMSOrH YUK/tO+Nhw8Jjlw94Ik0T80iEhI2t+XBVjwdfjbq3HrJ0ehqdBwukyeJRYKmbn298KOFQVHO EVbHA4rF/37jzaMadK43FgJ0SAhPPF5l4l89z5oPu0b/+5e2inA3b8J3iGZxywjM+Csq1tqz hltEc7Q+E08AAwUIAL+15XH8bPbjNJdVyg2CMl10JNW2wWg2Q6qdljeaRqeR6zFus7EZTwtX sNzs5bP8y51PSUDJbeiy2RNCNKWFMndM22TZnk3GNG45nQd4OwYK0RZVrikalmJY5Q6m7Z16 4yrZgIXFdKj2t8F+x613/SJW1lIr9/bDp4U9tw0V1g3l2dFtD3p3ZrQ3hpoDtoK70ioIAjjH aIXIAcm3FGZFXy503DOA0KaTWwvOVdYCFLm3zWuSOmrX/GsEc7ovasOWwjPn878qVjbUKWwx Q4QkF4OhUV9zPtf9tDSAZ3x7QSwoKbCoRCZ/xbyTUPyQ1VvNy/mYrBcYlzHodsaqUDjHuW+I SQQYEQIACQUCRND5ggIbDAAKCRBy3lIGd+N/BCO8AJ9j1dWVQWxw/YdTbEyrRKOY8YZNwwCf afMAg8QvmOWnHx3wl8WslCaXaE8= Message-ID: <3bcdbb72-06bf-e921-b64d-5319405f62bf@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2021 11:36:00 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.12.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2021 19:36:03 -0000 On 1/4/21 8:52 AM, John Kennedy wrote: > On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 08:22:56AM -0800, John Kennedy wrote: >> The git logs in /usr/src aren't time-sequential, so maybe I shouldn't trust >> those dates above (I pulled it ~Jan 3rd and let it compile overnight), but >> I'm going to repull all the sources and recompile, just in case. I might >> have initiall pulled it during the git conversion and maybe it is confused. > > This might be perfectly natural and just new to me, but when I look at the > git logs this morning I see things like this (editing by me): > > commit e5df46055add3bcf074c9ba275ceb4481802ba04 (HEAD -> main, freebsd/main, freebsd/HEAD) > Author: Emmanuel Vadot > Date: Mon Jan 4 17:30:00 2021 +0100 > > commit f61a3898bb989edef7ca308043224e495ed78f64 > Author: Emmanuel Vadot > Date: Mon Dec 14 18:56:56 2020 +0100 > > commit b6cc69322a77fa778b00db873781be04f26bd2ee > Author: Emmanuel Vadot > Date: Tue Dec 15 13:50:00 2020 +0100 > > commit 4401fa9bf1a3f2a7f2ca04fae9291218e1ca56bf > Author: Emmanuel Vadot > Date: Mon Jan 4 16:23:10 2021 +0100 > > This is a fresh clone+pull off of anongit@git.FreeBSD.org:src.git. > > I've always assumed that the "Date:" there was when the commit happened, > so they'd be increasing (most recent on top), but I suppose that you might > have developers in branches that are committing to their branch at one > point in time and it's getting merged into current (main) later, but the > original date is preserved? > > I guess I only care because I was trying to use time to bisect the > time I thought the problem might have been introduced. For commits to gdb (which uses git), the project asks that all series be rebased via 'git rebase --ignore-date' prior to pushing to master to give monotonically increasing commit dates. We could do something similar in FreeBSD either by asking folks to do that explicitly (though I know I sometimes forget when pushing to gdb myself), or we could avoid direct pushes to main. One option some folks mentioned on IRC was to have a separate "staging" branch that developers push to and then have a bot that does a rebase --ignore-date of that branch to main periodically, though that opens the question of how to deal with cherry-picks to stable (for which asking developers to do a rebase --ignore-date prior to pushing is probably the simpler approach). If we did want monotonically increasing dates without having a staging branch, we could perhaps use a server-side push hook to reject them and developers would just have to do a rebase --ignore-date before pushing again. -- John Baldwin From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Jan 5 20:16:02 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1F4C4C8D79 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 20:16:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic315-55.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (sonic315-55.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.65.31]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D9Nzj50VBz3GBh for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 20:16:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) X-SONIC-DKIM-SIGN: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; 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The failure reported . . . # panic: ufs_dirbad: /: bad dir ino 66371814 at offset 106496: mangled = entry cpuid =3D 0 time =3D 1609844528 KDB: stack backtrace: db_trace_self() at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x30 pc =3D 0xffff00000081c654 lr =3D 0xffff00000011ccb4 sp =3D 0xffff0000ac7a9e60 fp =3D 0xffff0000ac7aa060 db_trace_self_wrapper() at vpanic+0x198 pc =3D 0xffff00000011ccb4 lr =3D 0xffff0000004be678 sp =3D 0xffff0000ac7aa070 fp =3D 0xffff0000ac7aa0d0 vpanic() at panic+0x44 pc =3D 0xffff0000004be678 lr =3D 0xffff0000004be4dc sp =3D 0xffff0000ac7aa0e0 fp =3D 0xffff0000ac7aa190 panic() at ufs_lookup_ino+0xc9c pc =3D 0xffff0000004be4dc lr =3D 0xffff000000775044 sp =3D 0xffff0000ac7aa1a0 fp =3D 0xffff0000ac7aa270 ufs_lookup_ino() at vfs_cache_lookup+0xd0 pc =3D 0xffff000000775044 lr =3D 0xffff00000059a768 sp =3D 0xffff0000ac7aa280 fp =3D 0xffff0000ac7aa2f0 vfs_cache_lookup() at cache_fplookup_noentry+0x158 pc =3D 0xffff00000059a768 lr =3D 0xffff00000059f270 sp =3D 0xffff0000ac7aa300 fp =3D 0xffff0000ac7aa340 cache_fplookup_noentry() at cache_fplookup+0x440 pc =3D 0xffff00000059f270 lr =3D 0xffff00000059c0f4 sp =3D 0xffff0000ac7aa350 fp =3D 0xffff0000ac7aa410 cache_fplookup() at namei+0xd0 pc =3D 0xffff00000059c0f4 lr =3D 0xffff0000005a79fc sp =3D 0xffff0000ac7aa420 fp =3D 0xffff0000ac7aa4f0 namei() at kern_statat+0xa4 pc =3D 0xffff0000005a79fc lr =3D 0xffff0000005c82d8 sp =3D 0xffff0000ac7aa500 fp =3D 0xffff0000ac7aa660 kern_statat() at sys_fstatat+0x2c pc =3D 0xffff0000005c82d8 lr =3D 0xffff0000005c888c sp =3D 0xffff0000ac7aa670 fp =3D 0xffff0000ac7aa780 sys_fstatat() at do_el0_sync+0x460 pc =3D 0xffff0000005c888c lr =3D 0xffff00000083e048 sp =3D 0xffff0000ac7aa790 fp =3D 0xffff0000ac7aa820 do_el0_sync() at handle_el0_sync+0x90 pc =3D 0xffff00000083e048 lr =3D 0xffff00000081f224 sp =3D 0xffff0000ac7aa830 fp =3D 0xffff0000ac7aa980 handle_el0_sync() at 0x403da3e8 pc =3D 0xffff00000081f224 lr =3D 0x00000000403da3e8 sp =3D 0xffff0000ac7aa990 fp =3D 0x0000ffffffffe630 KDB: enter: panic [ thread pid 58718 tid 100101 ] Stopped at 0x403dd330 db>=20 Unfortunately the db> prompt is not taking any input so all I have is the backtrace. The machine had been left idle after upgrading from being head -r368820 based and other activity. The "~/fbsd-based-on-what-freebsd-main.sh mm-src" and uname below just happened to be the last things I did before leaving it idle overnight. I've no clue how long it was idle before the panic happened. # ~/fbsd-based-on-what-freebsd-main.sh mm-src 58661b3ba9ebe82f889cbc336afe618ad7f7940a CommitDate: 2021-01-04 15:12:03 -0800 085d41abe5f1 58661b3ba9eb (HEAD -> mm-src) mm-src snapshot for mm's = patched build in git context. # uname -apKU FreeBSD FBSDmacch 13.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 13.0-CURRENT = mm-src-c255600-g085d41abe5f1 GENERIC-NODBG arm64 aarch64 1300133 = 1300133 I did a fair amount of activity after the upgrade but before leaving it idle, lots of file system activity being involved. The machine is a MACCHIATOBin Double Shot. FreeBSD was from a cross build, using -mcpu=3Dcortex-a72 . (I mention mcpu in part because I've caught a missing-synchronization issue in the past from doing this, something a cortex-a53 running the same build did not show and for which the cortex-a72 did not show the issue when running a plain aarch64 or cortex-a53 targeted build. I'm not claiming to know that the wider range of behavior for the cortex-a72 is involved here.) =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Jan 5 22:04:00 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 092344CC6C0; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 22:04:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from meka@tilda.center) Received: from mail.tilda.center (mail.tilda.center [45.63.43.31]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D9RNH1RYdz3P3y; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 22:03:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from meka@tilda.center) Received: from tilda.center (178-220-5-137.static.isp.telekom.rs [178.220.5.137]) by mail.tilda.center (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AF1C32BAB2; 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ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:45.63.40.0/22, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[tilda.center:s=mail]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[freebsd]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[45.63.43.31:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current,freebsd-pkgbase] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2021 22:04:00 -0000 --5d2b564yaf2624be Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline > p.s.: if it feels slow, blame virtio + vnet This made it fast for me (rc.conf): ifconfig_vtnet0="DHCP -tso -lro" --5d2b564yaf2624be Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; 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Are you maintaining a history = and download site? >=20 [Note: This reply has no information related to the problem report. I'm just answering other questions.] I was given a UEFI materials to use a fair time ago and they have worked sufficiently for my use. Absent a FreeBSD port that I can use to build UEFI updates in a normal, ports-style way, I've left it alone in this area. The UEFI screen reports: MARVELL UEFI 18.09.0 The boot sequence reports: BootROM - 2.03 Starting CP-0 IOROM 1.07 Booting from SD 0 (0x29) Found valid image at boot postion 0x000 lNOTICE: Starting binary extension NOTICE: SVC: SW Revision 0x0. SVC is not supported mv_ddr: mv_ddr-armada-18.09.2-g99d7725 (Oct 29 2018 - 23:32:10) mv_ddr: completed successfully NOTICE: Cold boot NOTICE: Booting Trusted Firmware NOTICE: BL1: v1.5(release):v1.5-219-g711ecd3 (Marvell-armada-18.09.4) NOTICE: BL1: Built : 23:32:27, Oct 29 2018 NOTICE: BL1: Booting BL2 NOTICE: BL2: v1.5(release):v1.5-219-g711ecd3 (Marvell-armada-18.09.4) NOTICE: BL2: Built : 23:32:35, Oct 29 2018 BL2: Initiating SCP_BL2 transfer to SCP NOTICE: SCP_BL2 contains 5 concatenated images NOTICE: Skipping MSS CP3 related image NOTICE: Skipping MSS CP2 related image NOTICE: Load image to CP1 MSS AP0 NOTICE: Loading MSS image from addr. 0x40265f4 Size 0x1ad8 to MSS at = 0xf4280000 NOTICE: Done NOTICE: Load image to CP0 MSS AP0 NOTICE: Loading MSS image from addr. 0x40280cc Size 0x1ad8 to MSS at = 0xf2280000 NOTICE: Done NOTICE: Load image to AP0 MSS NOTICE: Loading MSS image from addr. 0x4029ba4 Size 0x4a40 to MSS at = 0xf0580000 NOTICE: Done NOTICE: BL1: Booting BL31 lNOTICE: BL31: v1.5(release):v1.5-219-g711ecd3 (Marvell-armada-18.09.4) NOTICE: BL31: Built : 23:32:47, Oct 29 2018 Armada 8040 MachiatoBin Platform Init (I'll stop with that.) One issue is that between: Booting [/boot/kernel/kernel]... =20 |=08/=08-=08\=08No valid device tree blob found! WARNING! Trying to fire up the kernel, but no device tree blob found! and: Setting hostuuid: **REPLACED**. Setting hostid: **REPLACED**. Starting file system checks: there is no output to the serial console. If I ever have problems in that time frame, recovery would be a problem unless I found a better UEFI variation to put in place, one that outputs everything to the serial console. As for my use, no history/download site, nothing externally visible at all. No use as a firewall or gateway either. But I do some aarch64 and armv7 builds on it. =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Jan 5 22:46:15 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25994D0323 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 22:46:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tsoome@me.com) Received: from pv50p00im-tydg10021701.me.com (pv50p00im-tydg10021701.me.com [17.58.6.54]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D9SK23SZhz3l9J for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 22:46:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tsoome@me.com) Received: from nazgul.lan (148-52-235-80.sta.estpak.ee [80.235.52.148]) by pv50p00im-tydg10021701.me.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 57A7184033D; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 22:46:11 +0000 (UTC) From: Toomas Soome Message-Id: <831788F9-F97F-4A02-A6F9-AE05219DA2E9@me.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.40.0.2.32\)) Subject: Re: boot loader blank screen Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 00:46:08 +0200 In-Reply-To: <66908803-BA6F-4538-9D93-6F85A95108C9@me.com> Cc: Current FreeBSD To: John Kennedy , Mark Millard , chrisb , David Wolfskill References: <83EB3B04-EAE8-4EC3-820B-2F5C3BADE948@me.com> <66908803-BA6F-4538-9D93-6F85A95108C9@me.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.40.0.2.32) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.343, 18.0.737 definitions=2021-01-05_09:2021-01-05, 2021-01-05 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-2006250000 definitions=main-2101050130 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D9SK23SZhz3l9J X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.50 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[me.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:17.58.0.0/16]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[me.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[me.com,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[phouka.net,yahoo.com,fastmail.net,catwhisker.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[17.58.6.54:from]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[me.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:714, ipnet:17.58.0.0/20, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[80.235.52.148:received]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[me.com:s=1a1hai]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[tsoome]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[me.com:dkim]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[17.58.6.54:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2021 22:46:16 -0000 > On 5. Jan 2021, at 00:59, Toomas Soome wrote: >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On 4. Jan 2021, at 18:30, Toomas Soome > wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>> On 4. Jan 2021, at 18:22, John Kennedy > wrote: >>>=20 >>> This is a little weird. >>>=20 >>> Somewhere between 13.0-g2ff66a915526 (Dec 30th) and -gd03fd8ede2c4 = (Dec 29th), >>> I've lost the screen in the boot loader. This is really weird = because I >>> didn't update the boot loader (in quite a while, actually), but I = suppose it >>> might drag some stuff off of the disk and misbehave. >>>=20 >>> But the system boots, presumably after the countdown that I can't = see, I just >>> have to SSH in from a different machine to tweak things. Just no = screen at >>> all past the GELI encrypted disk password prompt (and some usual = noise as >>> it complains about some padding that I've seen forever). >>>=20 >>> I used to just upgrade the boot loader around ZFS upgrades, and I = haven't >>> done that since OpenZFS got merged. I just got overly conservative = there >>> and may have missed the "all clear" for all combinations of ZFS and = the >>> bootloader recognizing them. >>>=20 >>> The git logs in /usr/src aren't time-sequential, so maybe I = shouldn't trust >>> those dates above (I pulled it ~Jan 3rd and let it compile = overnight), but >>> I'm going to repull all the sources and recompile, just in case. I = might >>> have initiall pulled it during the git conversion and maybe it is = confused. >>>=20 >>=20 >> hi! >>=20 >> Yes, it is known defect, and I=E2=80=99m searching for cause; the = issue is with /boot/loader and BIOS text mode (unfortunately I have the = usual =E2=80=98but it is working for me=E2=80=99 case). For workaround, = you can try to either: 1 (blind) press esc to get out of boot menu, then = enter: vbe on; another option is to add hw.vga.textmode=3D=E2=80=9C0=E2=80= =9D to loader.conf. >>=20 >> Sorry for confusion, >> toomas >>=20 >=20 > the 58661b3ba9eb should hopefully fix the loader text mode issue, it = would be cool if you can verify:) >=20 > thanks, > toomas I think, I got it fixed (at least idwer did confirm for his system, = thanks). If you can test this patch: = http://148-52-235-80.sta.estpak.ee/0001-loader-rewrite-font-install.patch = it would be really nice. thanks, toomas From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Jan 6 00:03:34 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CBE54D683C for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 00:03:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic312-25.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (sonic312-25.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.69.206]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D9V2B679Yz3swg for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 00:03:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marklmi@yahoo.com) X-SONIC-DKIM-SIGN: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1609891406; bh=bwOdXiYevjjGPlUpwiZn6wfC6zHtu3VLHEYhHS9skNJ=; h=Subject:From:Date:To:From:Subject; 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Jan 2021, at 00:59, Toomas Soome wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>> On 4. Jan 2021, at 18:30, Toomas Soome wrote: >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> On 4. Jan 2021, at 18:22, John Kennedy wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> This is a little weird. >>>>=20 >>>> Somewhere between 13.0-g2ff66a915526 (Dec 30th) and -gd03fd8ede2c4 = (Dec 29th), >>>> I've lost the screen in the boot loader. This is really weird = because I >>>> didn't update the boot loader (in quite a while, actually), but I = suppose it >>>> might drag some stuff off of the disk and misbehave. >>>>=20 >>>> But the system boots, presumably after the countdown that I can't = see, I just >>>> have to SSH in from a different machine to tweak things. Just no = screen at >>>> all past the GELI encrypted disk password prompt (and some usual = noise as >>>> it complains about some padding that I've seen forever). >>>>=20 >>>> I used to just upgrade the boot loader around ZFS upgrades, and I = haven't >>>> done that since OpenZFS got merged. I just got overly conservative = there >>>> and may have missed the "all clear" for all combinations of ZFS and = the >>>> bootloader recognizing them. >>>>=20 >>>> The git logs in /usr/src aren't time-sequential, so maybe I = shouldn't trust >>>> those dates above (I pulled it ~Jan 3rd and let it compile = overnight), but >>>> I'm going to repull all the sources and recompile, just in case. I = might >>>> have initiall pulled it during the git conversion and maybe it is = confused. >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> hi! >>>=20 >>> Yes, it is known defect, and I=E2=80=99m searching for cause; the = issue is with /boot/loader and BIOS text mode (unfortunately I have the = usual =E2=80=98but it is working for me=E2=80=99 case). For workaround, = you can try to either: 1 (blind) press esc to get out of boot menu, then = enter: vbe on; another option is to add hw.vga.textmode=3D=E2=80=9C0=E2=80= =9D to loader.conf. >>>=20 >>> Sorry for confusion, >>> toomas >>>=20 >>=20 >> the 58661b3ba9eb should hopefully fix the loader text mode issue, it = would be cool if you can verify:) >>=20 >> thanks, >> toomas >=20 > I think, I got it fixed (at least idwer did confirm for his system, = thanks). If you can test this patch: = http://148-52-235-80.sta.estpak.ee/0001-loader-rewrite-font-install.patch = it would be really nice. >=20 [I got to this sooner than I originally expected.] With the patch applied, hw.vga.textmode=3D"1" finally displayed correctly for the ThreadRipper 1950X context that I had originally reported. (The only amd64 FreeBSD context that I've access to.) Thanks, Mark =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Jan 6 01:55:11 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D8A4D9977 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 01:55:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from mx.catwhisker.org (mx.catwhisker.org [107.204.234.170]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D9XW23BGPz4VJF for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 01:55:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.16.1/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 1061sx5T035286; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 01:54:59 GMT (envelope-from david@albert.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 1061swhm035285; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 17:54:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2021 17:54:58 -0800 From: David Wolfskill To: Toomas Soome Cc: John Kennedy , Mark Millard , chrisb , Current FreeBSD Subject: Re: boot loader blank screen Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: David Wolfskill , Toomas Soome , John Kennedy , Mark Millard , chrisb , Current FreeBSD References: <83EB3B04-EAE8-4EC3-820B-2F5C3BADE948@me.com> <66908803-BA6F-4538-9D93-6F85A95108C9@me.com> <831788F9-F97F-4A02-A6F9-AE05219DA2E9@me.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qAW7938YeduHrztC" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <831788F9-F97F-4A02-A6F9-AE05219DA2E9@me.com> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D9XW23BGPz4VJF X-Spamd-Bar: ----- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.40 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[david]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[107.204.234.170:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:107.204.234.170]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[catwhisker.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[107.204.234.170:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[me.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7018, ipnet:107.192.0.0/12, country:US]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[phouka.net,yahoo.com,fastmail.net,freebsd.org]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2021 01:55:11 -0000 --qAW7938YeduHrztC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jan 06, 2021 at 12:46:08AM +0200, Toomas Soome wrote: > ...=20 > > the 58661b3ba9eb should hopefully fix the loader text mode issue, it wo= uld be cool if you can verify:) > >=20 > > thanks, > > toomas >=20 > I think, I got it fixed (at least idwer did confirm for his system, thank= s). If you can test this patch: http://148-52-235-80.sta.estpak.ee/0001-loa= der-rewrite-font-install.patch it would be really nice. >=20 > thanks, > toomas I tested with each of the following "stanzas' in /boot/loader.conf, using vt (vs. syscons) in each case (though that breaks video reset on resume after suspend): # hw.vga.textmode=3D"0" vbe_max_resolution=3D1280x800 This works, and provides a graphical console (depth 32). hw.vga.textmode=3D"0" # vbe_max_resolution=3D1280x800 This also works, and provides a low-resolution (and depth 16) graphical console (800x320 or something similar, IIRC). # hw.vga.textmode=3D"0" # vbe_max_resolution=3D1280x800 (That is, not specifying anything for hw.vga.textmode or vbe_max_resolution.) This boots OK, but I see no kernel probe messages or single- to multi-user mode messages. I can use (e.g.) Ctl+Alt+F2 to switch to vty1, see a "login: " prompt, and that (also) works. (This is the initial symptom I had reported.) hw.vga.textmode=3D"1" # vbe_max_resolution=3D1280x800 This works -- boots OK, and I see kernel probe (&c.) messages; this is a text console (mostly blue text; some white, against a dark background. It's a medium-light blue, so it's easy enough to read (unlike a navy blue, for example). FreeBSD g1-55.catwhisker.org 13.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 13.0-CURRENT #113 main-c2= 55601-g9fd96b416c45-dirty: Tue Jan 5 17:24:45 PST 2021 root@g1-55.catw= hisker.org:/common/S4/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/CANARY amd64 Peace, david --=20 David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org Defense against criminal charges for Trump's call to "find 11,780 votes": he's delusional. That must be why he should be making life-or-death decisi= ons. See https://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. --qAW7938YeduHrztC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGTBAEBCgB9FiEE4owz2QxMJyaxAefyQLJg+bY2PckFAl/1GHJfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEUy OEMzM0Q5MEM0QzI3MjZCMTAxRTdGMjQwQjI2MEY5QjYzNjNEQzkACgkQQLJg+bY2 PckaxAf/ZUN8gTKvr+ql3bXmg88b6ipaPfAbTt+tSqw/2c32WRj6v9KyNPtSJmNM MZM5JQSsr/kNbxt7dc42WlwfIL1VRFS24GrWeOM6mRGZAG1cfFy2FL0zM6XaVMtf nkzlc0gUXAWd1Ugsnshh26nTIGfqLnURh2HJto6SXqxEvHc1CsLjC92mEzAncRyy lhsSSbKL1D+VNcUQRB8bzLdgoxLrVCiYjb+e3qHvCWMuJebYV53VcVqA9GPURyJQ 7oaTJtrRSmky8xV2eQlSgMkfKFTjTq9vITknI2qUnGJNuTo7n6OJlAOcI1FjOvOz M+n2xwDgFdEe+eoh5giSulmsIC/Nsw== =7CEu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qAW7938YeduHrztC-- From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Jan 6 02:32:24 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 399A74DA6E3 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 02:32:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@catflap.org) Received: from donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [IPv6:2001:19f0:300:2185:123::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D9YL017zKz4Wl2; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 02:32:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@catflap.org) Received: from donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [104.207.135.49]) by donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id 1062WKYd005892 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 6 Jan 2021 02:32:20 GMT (envelope-from jamie@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net) Received: (from jamie@localhost) by donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id 1062WKMu005019; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 02:32:20 GMT (envelope-from jamie) From: Jamie Landeg-Jones Message-Id: <202101060232.1062WKMu005019@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2021 02:32:19 +0000 Organization: Dyslexic Fish To: jamie@catflap.org, imp@bsdimp.com Cc: warlock@phouka.net, rlibby@freebsd.org, phk@phk.freebsd.dk, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, asomers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: git non-time-sequential logs References: <94447.1609779520@critter.freebsd.dk> <94622.1609782682@critter.freebsd.dk> <202101051308.105D8IMh060928@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [104.207.135.49]); Wed, 06 Jan 2021 02:32:20 +0000 (GMT) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D9YL017zKz4Wl2 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2021 02:32:24 -0000 Warner Losh wrote: > > Not having timestamps on files cloned or viewed in cgit.freebsd.org is a > > nightmare too. > > > > I just clicked through and saw several time stamps quite trivially. Could > you be more specific in your complaint? > > Warner I wasn't really complaining - If the git transition is better for you guys, I'm all for it. However, this is one such URL: https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/tree/usr.bin/diff Those files have no dates besides them on my screen.. Cheers, Jamie From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Jan 6 03:10:58 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A99F4DB1C2 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 03:10:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from warlock@phouka1.phouka.net) Received: from phouka1.phouka.net (phouka1.phouka.net [107.170.196.116]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "phouka.net", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D9ZBT0R6rz4Xnq for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 03:10:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from warlock@phouka1.phouka.net) Received: from phouka1.phouka.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phouka1.phouka.net (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 10639MBB033606 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 5 Jan 2021 19:09:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from warlock@phouka1.phouka.net) Received: (from warlock@localhost) by phouka1.phouka.net (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 10639MNp033605; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 19:09:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from warlock) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2021 19:09:22 -0800 From: John Kennedy To: Toomas Soome Cc: Mark Millard , chrisb , David Wolfskill , Current FreeBSD Subject: Re: boot loader blank screen Message-ID: References: <83EB3B04-EAE8-4EC3-820B-2F5C3BADE948@me.com> <66908803-BA6F-4538-9D93-6F85A95108C9@me.com> <831788F9-F97F-4A02-A6F9-AE05219DA2E9@me.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <831788F9-F97F-4A02-A6F9-AE05219DA2E9@me.com> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D9ZBT0R6rz4Xnq X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.80 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[yahoo.com,fastmail.net,catwhisker.org,freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[107.170.196.116:from]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[phouka.net]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[107.170.196.116:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[me.com]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[warlock@phouka.net,warlock@phouka1.phouka.net]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14061, ipnet:107.170.192.0/18, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[warlock@phouka.net,warlock@phouka1.phouka.net]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2021 03:10:58 -0000 On Wed, Jan 06, 2021 at 12:46:08AM +0200, Toomas Soome wrote: > I think, I got it fixed (at least idwer did confirm for his system, thanks). If you can test this patch: http://148-52-235-80.sta.estpak.ee/0001-loader-rewrite-font-install.patch it would be really nice. I regret to say that it didn't fix my issue. 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If you can test this patch: = http://148-52-235-80.sta.estpak.ee/0001-loader-rewrite-font-install.patch = it would be really nice. >>=20 >> thanks, >> toomas >=20 > I tested with each of the following "stanzas' in /boot/loader.conf, > using vt (vs. syscons) in each case (though that breaks video reset > on resume after suspend): >=20 > . . . I've done no experiments with an explicit vbe_max_resolution setting. My context for hw.vga.textmode=3D"0" shows up as 1920x1200. (I do have the font for this set to 8x16, making for lots of character cells across and down.) For the below I do not have hw.vga.textmode=3D"0". > # hw.vga.textmode=3D"0" > # vbe_max_resolution=3D1280x800 >=20 > (That is, not specifying anything for hw.vga.textmode or > vbe_max_resolution.) >=20 > This boots OK, but I see no kernel probe messages or single- to > multi-user mode messages. I can use (e.g.) Ctl+Alt+F2 to switch to > vty1, see a "login: " prompt, and that (also) works. (This is the > initial symptom I had reported.) So I tried commenting out hw.vga.textmode=3D"1" and I saw everything I expected in my context. Whiteish on black background (or at least something very dark). I did not take videos to do detailed inspections. > hw.vga.textmode=3D"1" > # vbe_max_resolution=3D1280x800 >=20 > This works -- boots OK, and I see kernel probe (&c.) messages; this is = a > text console (mostly blue text; some white, against a dark background. > It's a medium-light blue, so it's easy enough to read (unlike a navy > blue, for example). FYI: whiteish on black (or at least something very dark) in my hw.vga.textmode=3D"1" context. I saw everything here as well. I did not take videos to do detailed inspections. I did not notice any way to tell hw.vga.textmode=3D"1" from having no hw.vga.textmode assignment at all. But, again, I did not set up for an after-the-fact detailed review of what is displayed. =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Jan 6 05:45:01 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E3CD4C3B46 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 05:45:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from theron.tarigo@gmail.com) Received: from mail-il1-x12b.google.com (mail-il1-x12b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::12b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D9dcF2pCPz4kxL; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 05:45:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from theron.tarigo@gmail.com) Received: by mail-il1-x12b.google.com with SMTP id r17so2084351ilo.11; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 21:45:01 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=N1x6QblnwiE2ya+refT0zAzPuMCsOK6DL5FTrawqpv4=; b=DbXPuosoamXzc8TQTRQ0aPP6rdfBMOhTHi2kKJnj4L0N1rubnHpn2UZNVojqu2Ioyt GSkVnTU75c3pg5Utxt0DqDgHMlcLxoVN3iUGSTegbNt4JH37t7Ae/A06mx5Q21mwy/Ie Nxgan0i1on+7u1cRm8d5HWOM9EQ2B6KB7mXBWvGr5bRIIabdkmVRtX3IVD3WT7AMmwl1 DLdo3mQKIEB4248osFZeNWNFWHHP59AsA/QGeLS3aNyJah3jChgEsDCuHn2kZwXe01Se FKab3/BCwjEuEeEzLFOifYjydJkj/3/nXAmm92Hr99bzFUhWkwzUkvIXuS/iWiF877Ag Tzmw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530yvUPWEyk0AArXLeipJFsmnYihOgAtp3ou6ieDkFhXPpJ27bQi BZ0BsPoWSv58JF5CrkqmXBVLGV7gSxI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyX357khKaSwTTbM2l2tbYsOvTt96Xr87Ww+20xiyVbNn0gvftCnkjZ6xxH1ZlbxS0d67oRLg== X-Received: by 2002:a92:4002:: with SMTP id n2mr2752784ila.293.1609911899509; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 21:44:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.31] ([71.241.135.42]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d5sm1212397ilf.33.2021.01.05.21.44.58 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Jan 2021 21:44:58 -0800 (PST) Sender: Theron Tarigo Subject: Re: git non-time-sequential logs To: John Baldwin , John Kennedy , Current FreeBSD References: <3bcdbb72-06bf-e921-b64d-5319405f62bf@FreeBSD.org> From: Theron Message-ID: <2c2da2e2-99a0-e277-a2a6-4a73230f3406@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 00:44:13 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3bcdbb72-06bf-e921-b64d-5319405f62bf@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D9dcF2pCPz4kxL X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2021 05:45:01 -0000 On 1/5/21 2:36 PM, John Baldwin wrote: > On 1/4/21 8:52 AM, John Kennedy wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 08:22:56AM -0800, John Kennedy wrote: >>> The git logs in /usr/src aren't time-sequential, so maybe I shouldn't trust >>> those dates above (I pulled it ~Jan 3rd and let it compile overnight), but >>> I'm going to repull all the sources and recompile, just in case. I might >>> have initiall pulled it during the git conversion and maybe it is confused. >> This might be perfectly natural and just new to me, but when I look at the >> git logs this morning I see things like this (editing by me): >> >> commit e5df46055add3bcf074c9ba275ceb4481802ba04 (HEAD -> main, freebsd/main, freebsd/HEAD) >> Author: Emmanuel Vadot >> Date: Mon Jan 4 17:30:00 2021 +0100 >> >> commit f61a3898bb989edef7ca308043224e495ed78f64 >> Author: Emmanuel Vadot >> Date: Mon Dec 14 18:56:56 2020 +0100 >> >> commit b6cc69322a77fa778b00db873781be04f26bd2ee >> Author: Emmanuel Vadot >> Date: Tue Dec 15 13:50:00 2020 +0100 >> >> commit 4401fa9bf1a3f2a7f2ca04fae9291218e1ca56bf >> Author: Emmanuel Vadot >> Date: Mon Jan 4 16:23:10 2021 +0100 >> >> This is a fresh clone+pull off of anongit@git.FreeBSD.org:src.git. >> >> I've always assumed that the "Date:" there was when the commit happened, >> so they'd be increasing (most recent on top), but I suppose that you might >> have developers in branches that are committing to their branch at one >> point in time and it's getting merged into current (main) later, but the >> original date is preserved? >> >> I guess I only care because I was trying to use time to bisect the >> time I thought the problem might have been introduced. > For commits to gdb (which uses git), the project asks that all series be > rebased via 'git rebase --ignore-date' prior to pushing to master to give > monotonically increasing commit dates. We could do something similar in > FreeBSD either by asking folks to do that explicitly (though I know I > sometimes forget when pushing to gdb myself), or we could avoid direct > pushes to main. One option some folks mentioned on IRC was to have a > separate "staging" branch that developers push to and then have a bot that > does a rebase --ignore-date of that branch to main periodically, though > that opens the question of how to deal with cherry-picks to stable (for > which asking developers to do a rebase --ignore-date prior to pushing is > probably the simpler approach). > > If we did want monotonically increasing dates without having a staging > branch, we could perhaps use a server-side push hook to reject them and > developers would just have to do a rebase --ignore-date before pushing > again. > In the example above, the commit dates *are* monotonically increasing.  The author dates aren't however, and that's what the log shows. Commit dates for direct changes to HEAD (seen in 'git log --first-parent --pretty=fuller' among other methods) seem like a direct replacement for SVN revisions and their timestamps.  Maybe I'm not understanding the problem? To be extra sure commit dates remain monotonic, it would make sense to enforce by rule: - The commit date must not be earlier than the date of the commit's parent. - The commit date must not be in the future. Is there any nonnegligible reason not to impose that as a protection against accidental system time misconfigurations?  In any other circumstance, it would not come into effect anyway? From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Jan 6 07:14:34 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F714C58CE for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 07:14:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D9gbY3nzDz4pKN; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 07:14:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [188.174.61.121] (helo=c720-r368166.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kx31b-0003aR-36; Wed, 06 Jan 2021 08:14:31 +0100 Received: from c720-r368166.fritz.box (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c720-r368166.unixarea.de (8.16.1/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id 1067EUuk003408 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 6 Jan 2021 08:14:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by c720-r368166.fritz.box (8.16.1/8.14.9/Submit) id 1067ETJR003407; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 08:14:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: c720-r368166.fritz.box: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 08:14:29 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: "Herbert J. Skuhra" Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, emaste@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kldxref: /boot/kernel/kernel: too many segments Message-ID: Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: "Herbert J. Skuhra" , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, emaste@freebsd.org References: <20210105120133.GA9@sh4-5.1blu.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 13.0-CURRENT r368166 (amd64) X-message-flag: Mails containing HTML will not be read! Please send only plain text. 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Skuhra escribió: > On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 01:01:33PM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > On an amd64 system r314251 a world and kernel built fine from SVN r368166 the > > installation with > > > > # make installkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC > > > > endet with the following messages > > > > install -T release -o root -g wheel -m 555 zlib.ko /boot/kernel/ > > install -T dbg -o root -g wheel -m 555 zlib.ko.debug /usr/lib/debug/boot/kernel/ > > kldxref /boot/kernel > > kldxref: /boot/kernel/kernel: too many segments > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>> Installing kernel GENERIC completed on Tue Jan 5 12:50:59 CET 2021 > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > What should I do before rebooting to continue with the installation of > > world? > > > > Just to be on the safe side (test the kernel): > > 1. rm /boot/kernel and mv /boot/kernel.old /boot/kernel > > If you are using UFS: > > 2. make installkernel KODIR=/boot/testkernel > 3. nextboot -k testkernel > > If you are using ZFS: > > Use bectl and zfsbootcfg. Thanks. The kernel booted fine. I filed a PR: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=252459 matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-176-38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub ¡Con Cuba no te metas! «» Don't mess with Cuba! «» Leg Dich nicht mit Kuba an! http://www.cubadebate.cu/noticias/2020/12/25/en-video-con-cuba-no-te-metas/ From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Jan 6 07:58:37 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7422F4C761F for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 07:58:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grahamperrin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x42e.google.com (mail-wr1-x42e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::42e]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D9hZN6cGyz4sFj for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 07:58:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grahamperrin@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x42e.google.com with SMTP id c5so1559153wrp.6 for ; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 23:58:36 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=Vxwvhm3CbOg/JQA4mx0KkusSl/EvSOKoUy/YHhB5qGs=; b=tZng5nQ/e/NBS3wkP0bd8Hi/rTSjDMCMlNZ8ndwqOSnomHRtaQdKXOWBUex+C/wbVl QqNzvlcH4c7URCyIbSqexhtSiIX5+iNzmv+uKUf2cTgbhsVgUNBdo6jB3Adb51fXjQhu ZXH0d1derrZ+ed/A2fwmI/DfejZ9sXukkO0EEcJ3ZHCfNHSdZRvwI5FDuMIxoYN4Eit0 VTl0fdqURM0CINzmHWLc5Bd/qDekZf67eSAy7B5V01L2o4upB9rlv+FzB09FL8iE04G8 bM1lWvKMazWchBJNJt1GgtUgd1+jcslUZqepCErxmPN2p7c/bVcmcwDRnxIx1LdBeeqc YcOw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531wOH01wVDVoPcqTt5BbIom/u5mU8YNdzAORmyjm9HauRmJZpFx D1fdPo+JintOrsW71o9+Mm1yzElkhojjjA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz6IsFYD/ni/WP6K//jbk+JYi3Wp0cQKhe5RmZdV5x5u7nmScCKQfjvjDqhoeWtYh0Yhyb4mA== X-Received: by 2002:a5d:6944:: with SMTP id r4mr3010587wrw.134.1609919915378; Tue, 05 Jan 2021 23:58:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (88-105-96-80.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com. 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Could >> you be more specific in your complaint? >> >> Warner > I wasn't really complaining - If the git transition is better for you guys, I'm all for it. > > However, this is one such URL: https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/tree/usr.bin/diff > > Those files have no dates besides them on my screen.. > > Cheers, Jamie Alongside 'tree', click 'log' Also/alternatively there's the read-only mirror on GitHub so, for example: – although time stamps there are relative, not absolute. From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Jan 6 09:23:09 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3714C4CA0A9 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 09:23:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D9kRx10c1z3FtN; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 09:23:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from tensor.andric.com (tensor.andric.com [IPv6:2001:470:7a58:1::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "tensor.andric.com", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) (Authenticated sender: dim) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0140D8B84; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 09:23:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:7a58::2910:275:c8df:443d] (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:7a58:0:2910:275:c8df:443d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by tensor.andric.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 89C3E3C60E; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 10:23:07 +0100 (CET) From: Dimitry Andric Message-Id: <25475649-78B8-42D0-AFBB-0B698FB50D4E@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_F3832707-9C35-4AA3-AA7E-2275FAAD31BA"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.17\)) Subject: Re: kldxref: /boot/kernel/kernel: too many segments Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 10:22:59 +0100 In-Reply-To: Cc: "Herbert J. Skuhra" , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, emaste@freebsd.org To: Matthias Apitz References: <20210105120133.GA9@sh4-5.1blu.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.17) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2021 09:23:09 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_F3832707-9C35-4AA3-AA7E-2275FAAD31BA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On 6 Jan 2021, at 08:14, Matthias Apitz wrote: >=20 > El d=C3=ADa martes, enero 05, 2021 a las 01:11:14p. m. +0100, Herbert = J. Skuhra escribi=C3=B3: >=20 >> On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 01:01:33PM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: >>>=20 >>> Hello, >>>=20 >>> On an amd64 system r314251 a world and kernel built fine from SVN = r368166 the >>> installation with >>>=20 >>> # make installkernel KERNCONF=3DGENERIC >>>=20 >>> endet with the following messages >>>=20 >>> install -T release -o root -g wheel -m 555 zlib.ko /boot/kernel/ >>> install -T dbg -o root -g wheel -m 555 zlib.ko.debug = /usr/lib/debug/boot/kernel/ >>> kldxref /boot/kernel >>> kldxref: /boot/kernel/kernel: too many segments >>> -------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> Installing kernel GENERIC completed on Tue Jan 5 12:50:59 CET = 2021 >>> -------------------------------------------------------------- >>>=20 >>> What should I do before rebooting to continue with the installation = of >>> world? >>=20 >> = >>=20 >> Just to be on the safe side (test the kernel): >>=20 >> 1. rm /boot/kernel and mv /boot/kernel.old /boot/kernel >>=20 >> If you are using UFS: >>=20 >> 2. make installkernel KODIR=3D/boot/testkernel >> 3. nextboot -k testkernel >>=20 >> If you are using ZFS: >>=20 >> Use bectl and zfsbootcfg. >=20 > Thanks. The kernel booted fine. I filed a PR: >=20 > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D252459 FWIW this was fixed in https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/364435 (aka = https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=3D05c312a339096ac54d404029ddfcd011= 4d452a4c). However, since kldxref is (for some reason) run from the *host* system during an installkernel, it will give that warning message if you upgrade from an older tree. The warnings can safely be ignored, and will disappear the next time you upgrade. -Dimitry --Apple-Mail=_F3832707-9C35-4AA3-AA7E-2275FAAD31BA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.2 iF0EARECAB0WIQR6tGLSzjX8bUI5T82wXqMKLiCWowUCX/WBcwAKCRCwXqMKLiCW owbwAJwKbqYb5JhBYPL4dWfhOY4IdFMKfQCdGp+YN8ZO70J668NhVgJOj7wHqfw= =N1oX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_F3832707-9C35-4AA3-AA7E-2275FAAD31BA-- From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Jan 6 11:24:25 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A367C4CCC3C for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 11:24:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com (out3-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D9n7s1kXFz3N3g for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 11:24:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tech-lists@zyxst.net) Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6C105C01AF for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 06:24:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 06 Jan 2021 06:24:24 -0500 X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedujedrvdefledgvdelucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpeffhffvuffkfhggtggujgesghdtre ertddtvdenucfhrhhomhepthgvtghhqdhlihhsthhsuceothgvtghhqdhlihhsthhsseii hiigshhtrdhnvghtqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeettddtudeugfeggefhkeekteekje elfeffleehjeffgffftdeffedtjeegueeiffenucffohhmrghinhepfhhrvggvsghsugdr ohhrghenucfkphepkedvrdejtddrledurddutddunecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd enucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepthgvtghhqdhlihhsthhsseiihiigshhtrdhn vght X-ME-Proxy: Received: from bastion.zyxst.net (fws.zyxst.net [82.70.91.101]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3DEF0240057 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 06:24:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 11:24:22 +0000 From: tech-lists To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CURRENT, usr/src on git, howto "mergemaster"? Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <0F14842F-2C85-4ED3-B4C9-D2AA12A55464@gmail.com> <20210104185914.GA19556@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3JDsYFNURF8fZKeG" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D9n7s1kXFz3N3g X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.70 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[66.111.4.27:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:66.111.4.27]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[zyxst.net:+,messagingengine.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[66.111.4.27:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11403, ipnet:66.111.4.0/24, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[66.111.4.27:from]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[zyxst.net:s=fm1,messagingengine.com:s=fm1]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[zyxst.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[66.111.4.27:from:127.0.2.255]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2021 11:24:25 -0000 --3JDsYFNURF8fZKeG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 08:47:28PM +0100, Michal Meloun wrote: >Moreover mergemaster is still officially documented and recommend as >only right method in FreeBSD handbook. See >https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/makeworld.html. >World is moving, we may have new tools but each deprecation should be, >in this order: >1) well announced >2) adjusted in the handbook >3) implemeted Really +1 to this, times a thousand. Especially the 2nd point which I think I'd be right in thinking is the source of truth? It also talks extensively= =20 about svn and yet 12-stable has been on git for a month nearly, and the svn= =20 repo has not been updated since. Not even a hint suggesting the new process= ,=20 that the indicated process is depreciated, or a link to the newer=20 process/workflow. --=20 J. --3JDsYFNURF8fZKeG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEE8n3tWhxW11Ccvv9/s8o7QhFzNAUFAl/1nd0ACgkQs8o7QhFz NAWu8BAAjBWZBJ2GDK1TtxrUmTdX/7BfGuynzh4JGMyS/DPaingCjIXxLKt7Qbb4 61Ky3J1065l0eEUkgWzUCWKUH7xYRYKy4vdVDk6yyepvm9XzA8bXV9ntLiPgwoFZ AbCmpR6D6yopVVj3pE9Cs0YUIhPaGkojLWoYRIq563qXmRz5OEfM4oN+56k1Ia8l P8IF2tJ7xqOVj/6iIfkgM/jJ4f0yu1fB4buskUZrmRzxtwPKJDZx84TcuMENCJw2 hKN/LmYR6X0uWdI9sEi9pli5YwgOjb6qIP5c9q1bCaJfSI2aThzyrhGzb96Xpido VRl7ZNsI/7lO8GB0CZMiUlAbc5yE2k5mohQOYzPisFFvfBC2KCINtCNnTmcB3T6x CEkemEA6CKMhIDP/qFZMAzEqW07TyjVkP6Ts/W/K48VL0PILjUijbUn2KOEw0S/v kLa1g1tSRCbldT6XXc9l0pzMgdurI0h7EJlILsdJWUrkP3CYs1viJAaGfUJC44Bg 5RIw/qlbkr8gX6VC1xeL9ofR/YZIp7eBKiaV/SpmqgSwDsmUlCQaqn4Vxgu3ov4i EutSde1669YGprVADndws+1Kb65rZU0WtUCHy1RFPmfoAbG9d8+WgXHLTJAu3q+Z KEhjhe8GFN1PBOL2Tr3eHTkfZf/va+SN7IRWdGTOHL4fwfeMUtA= =YJVI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3JDsYFNURF8fZKeG-- From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Jan 6 14:34:17 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DC5F4D26BD for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 14:34:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@catflap.org) Received: from donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [IPv6:2001:19f0:300:2185:123::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D9sLv6qcYz3sLj for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 14:34:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@catflap.org) Received: from donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [104.207.135.49]) by donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id 106EY856043912 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 6 Jan 2021 14:34:08 GMT (envelope-from jamie@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net) Received: (from jamie@localhost) by donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id 106EY802043911; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 14:34:08 GMT (envelope-from jamie) From: Jamie Landeg-Jones Message-Id: <202101061434.106EY802043911@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2021 14:34:07 +0000 Organization: Dyslexic Fish To: grahamperrin@gmail.com, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Git: timestamps References: <94447.1609779520@critter.freebsd.dk> <94622.1609782682@critter.freebsd.dk> <202101051308.105D8IMh060928@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> <202101060232.1062WKMu005019@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> <593c762a-aaa7-a114-43a3-20251b8e92ef@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <593c762a-aaa7-a114-43a3-20251b8e92ef@gmail.com> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [104.207.135.49]); Wed, 06 Jan 2021 14:34:08 +0000 (GMT) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D9sLv6qcYz3sLj X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.80 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[jamie]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2001:19f0:300:2185:123::1:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:dyslexicfish.net]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2001:19f0:300:2185:123::1:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[catflap.org,none]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com,freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2021 14:34:17 -0000 Graham Perrin wrote: > Alongside 'tree', click 'log' Thanks, but I wanted the file dates, not the log! > Also/alternatively there's the read-only mirror on GitHub so, for example: > > I know, which is why I miss it on the FreeBSD main site. cheers! From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Jan 6 14:59:05 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D8024D3800 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 14:59:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me+freebsd@igalic.co) Received: from mail-40133.protonmail.ch (mail-40133.protonmail.ch [185.70.40.133]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "protonmail.com", Issuer "SwissSign Server Gold CA 2014 - G22" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D9svV6Sz0z3w26 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 14:59:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from me+freebsd@igalic.co) Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2021 14:58:45 +0000 To: =?utf-8?Q?Goran_Meki=C4=87?= From: =?utf-8?Q?Mina_Gali=C4=87?= Cc: "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org" Reply-To: =?utf-8?Q?Mina_Gali=C4=87?= Subject: Re: Unofficial PkgBase Repository Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20210105220351.6xyighib4a66d76o@tilda.center> References: <20210105220351.6xyighib4a66d76o@tilda.center> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=10.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF shortcircuit=no autolearn=disabled version=3.4.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on mailout.protonmail.ch X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D9svV6Sz0z3w26 X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.67 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[me+freebsd@igalic.co]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:185.70.40.0/24]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[igalic.co:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[185.70.40.133:from]; R_MIXED_CHARSET(0.83)[subject]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[freebsd]; ASN(0.00)[asn:62371, ipnet:185.70.40.0/24, country:CH]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[igalic.co:s=protonmail2]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[me]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[igalic.co]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[185.70.40.133:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2021 14:59:05 -0000 On Tuesday, January 5th, 2021 at 23:03, Goran Meki=C4=87 wrote: > > p.s.: if it feels slow, blame virtio + vnet > > This made it fast for me (rc.conf): > > ifconfig_vtnet0=3D"DHCP -tso -lro" i already have those. see my setup over here: https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-jail/2021-January/004009.ht= ml https://gist.github.com/87ba10c1c5611ed32367d5d48ef5f402 it still feels quite sluggish. I should measure my feelings. From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Jan 6 17:19:45 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A151C4D78AD for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 17:19:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [18.222.6.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.soaustin.net", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D9x1r73MMz4bGy for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 17:19:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from lonesome.com (unknown [18.188.142.31]) by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DBE80170FD; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 17:19:43 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 17:19:42 +0000 From: Mark Linimon To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Cc: Mark Linimon Subject: Re: CURRENT, usr/src on git, howto "mergemaster"? Message-ID: <20210106171942.GB9919@lonesome.com> References: <0F14842F-2C85-4ED3-B4C9-D2AA12A55464@gmail.com> <20210104185914.GA19556@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D9x1r73MMz4bGy X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.20 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[18.222.6.11:from]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[18.222.6.11:from]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16509, ipnet:18.220.0.0/14, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[linimon]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[lonesome.com]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[18.222.6.11:from:127.0.2.255]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2021 17:19:45 -0000 On Wed, Jan 06, 2021 at 11:24:22AM +0000, tech-lists wrote: > >Moreover mergemaster is still officially documented and recommend as > >only right method in FreeBSD handbook. See > >https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/makeworld.html. > >World is moving, we may have new tools but each deprecation should be, > >in this order: > >1) well announced > >2) adjusted in the handbook > >3) implemeted > > Really +1 to this, times a thousand. Especially the 2nd point which > I think I'd be right in thinking is the source of truth? It also talks > extensively about svn and yet 12-stable has been on git for a month > nearly, and the svn repo has not been updated since. It's _a_ source of truth but it, like everything else, is maintained by volunteers. The only _real_ source of truth is the commits. mcl From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Jan 6 17:51:23 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C9B4D87E7 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 17:51:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from smtp-out-so.shaw.ca (smtp-out-so.shaw.ca [64.59.136.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D9xkL5rb0z4dKh for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 17:51:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from spqr.komquats.com ([70.67.229.168]) by shaw.ca with ESMTPA id xCxrk8iVTktFkxCxskuLDl; Wed, 06 Jan 2021 10:51:21 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.4 cv=NYRYa0P4 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=5ff5f899 a=7AlCcx2GqMg+lh9P3BclKA==:117 a=7AlCcx2GqMg+lh9P3BclKA==:17 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=EmqxpYm9HcoA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=JAf30KXuAAAA:8 a=uVROCEoNAAAA:8 a=YxBL1-UpAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=EkcXrb_YAAAA:8 a=sAGn3ESA1gGNBIsiauYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Dj4llu4YySQA:10 a=GEL62FyrTCmHtEug2d3R:22 a=qiwA3tW9fd7zhG1genvr:22 a=Ia-lj3WSrqcvXOmTRaiG:22 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 a=LK5xJRSDVpKd5WXXoEvA:22 Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (slippy [IPv6:fc00:1:1:1::5b]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A02FD18E; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 09:51:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from slippy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTP id 106HpGrc002714; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 09:51:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com) Message-Id: <202101061751.106HpGrc002714@slippy.cwsent.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.9.0 11/07/2018 with nmh-1.7.1 Reply-to: Cy Schubert From: Cy Schubert X-os: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy@cwsent.com X-URL: http://www.cschubert.com/ To: Mark Millard cc: Toomas Soome , David Wolfskill , John Kennedy , chrisb , Current FreeBSD Subject: Re: boot loader blank screen In-reply-to: <63A29589-22B5-495B-8E0D-14E13091D939@yahoo.com> References: <83EB3B04-EAE8-4EC3-820B-2F5C3BADE948@me.com> <66908803-BA6F-4538-9D93-6F85A95108C9@me.com> <831788F9-F97F-4A02-A6F9-AE05219DA2E9@me.com> <63A29589-22B5-495B-8E0D-14E13091D939@yahoo.com> Comments: In-reply-to Mark Millard message dated "Tue, 05 Jan 2021 19:16:10 -0800." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2021 09:51:16 -0800 X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfNYh860vcxjIglFmZrTDY3vg6Lzbckydw5blLCq42znppJ8xHHSd95zEX8mtf9InmuuuBFmkiaL7U46LgwncXeRW2gUqgaaNtdbl66f6k5TYvCInOy8i gt2BjK8m+vDqxhmQOeHSQ+emyOTsiBQy0WcHsqk+lz6hfkq3mrleH6QEptveRwwKUsrZo/vRkR9AWPVf2BK98UAeqQu31SEHnfr/heK557zKDJYFZLpQeAkp aEh0Zm5eV2rWwGdPP3Fd6Ll/8vjrc3ZciS2TT7+Rk41kDZbKKMjH2eOMm06OnpMN9hYxPmWQh3rVWgh6otk20JfWM7KEnPiYbs2eTqJDuIwFWHu7NHDcesj5 jzzGBTAH X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D9xkL5rb0z4dKh X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.70 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[64.59.136.137:from]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[6]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[yahoo.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[64.59.136.137:from]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[64.59.136.137:from]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6327, ipnet:64.59.128.0/20, country:CA]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cschubert.com: no valid DMARC record]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[64.59.136.137:from:127.0.2.255]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[70.67.229.168:received]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[me.com,catwhisker.org,phouka.net,fastmail.net,freebsd.org]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2021 17:51:23 -0000 In message <63A29589-22B5-495B-8E0D-14E13091D939@yahoo.com>, Mark Millard write s: > > > On 2021-Jan-5, at 17:54, David Wolfskill wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 06, 2021 at 12:46:08AM +0200, Toomas Soome wrote: > >> ... > >>> the 58661b3ba9eb should hopefully fix the loader text mode issue, it woul > d be cool if you can verify:) > >>> > >>> thanks, > >>> toomas > >> > >> I think, I got it fixed (at least idwer did confirm for his system, thanks > ). If you can test this patch: http://148-52-235-80.sta.estpak.ee/0001-loader > -rewrite-font-install.patch ewrite-font-install.patch> it would be really nice. > >> > >> thanks, > >> toomas > > > > I tested with each of the following "stanzas' in /boot/loader.conf, > > using vt (vs. syscons) in each case (though that breaks video reset > > on resume after suspend): > > > > . . . > > I've done no experiments with an explicit vbe_max_resolution > setting. My context for hw.vga.textmode="0" shows up as > 1920x1200. (I do have the font for this set to 8x16, making > for lots of character cells across and down.) > > > For the below I do not have hw.vga.textmode="0". > > > # hw.vga.textmode="0" textmode=1 doesn't work either. Been using it for years and this is the first time it's borked. > > # vbe_max_resolution=1280x800 > > > > (That is, not specifying anything for hw.vga.textmode or > > vbe_max_resolution.) > > > > This boots OK, but I see no kernel probe messages or single- to > > multi-user mode messages. I can use (e.g.) Ctl+Alt+F2 to switch to > > vty1, see a "login: " prompt, and that (also) works. (This is the > > initial symptom I had reported.) > > So I tried commenting out hw.vga.textmode="1" and I saw everything > I expected in my context. Whiteish on black background (or at least > something very dark). I did not take videos to do detailed > inspections. Didn't work for me. Then again my old eyes didn't detect much difference in contrast. > > > > hw.vga.textmode="1" > > # vbe_max_resolution=1280x800 > > > > This works -- boots OK, and I see kernel probe (&c.) messages; this is a > > text console (mostly blue text; some white, against a dark background. > > It's a medium-light blue, so it's easy enough to read (unlike a navy > > blue, for example). > > FYI: whiteish on black (or at least something very dark) > in my hw.vga.textmode="1" context. I saw everything here > as well. I did not take videos to do detailed inspections. > > I did not notice any way to tell hw.vga.textmode="1" from > having no hw.vga.textmode assignment at all. But, again, > I did not set up for an after-the-fact detailed review of > what is displayed. Everything becomes normal when X starts, except for the three machines downstairs which don't use X. -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: https://FreeBSD.org NTP: Web: https://nwtime.org The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few. 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If you can test this patch: = http://148-52-235-80.sta.estpak.ee/0001-loader >> -rewrite-font-install.patch = > ewrite-font-install.patch> it would be really nice. >>>>=20 >>>> thanks, >>>> toomas >>>=20 >>> I tested with each of the following "stanzas' in /boot/loader.conf, >>> using vt (vs. syscons) in each case (though that breaks video reset >>> on resume after suspend): >>>=20 >>> . . . >>=20 >> I've done no experiments with an explicit vbe_max_resolution >> setting. My context for hw.vga.textmode=3D"0" shows up as >> 1920x1200. (I do have the font for this set to 8x16, making >> for lots of character cells across and down.) >>=20 >>=20 >> For the below I do not have hw.vga.textmode=3D"0". >>=20 >>> # hw.vga.textmode=3D"0" >=20 > textmode=3D1 doesn't work either. Been using it for years and this is = the=20 > first time it's borked. >=20 >>> # vbe_max_resolution=3D1280x800 >>>=20 >>> (That is, not specifying anything for hw.vga.textmode or >>> vbe_max_resolution.) >>>=20 >>> This boots OK, but I see no kernel probe messages or single- to >>> multi-user mode messages. I can use (e.g.) Ctl+Alt+F2 to switch to >>> vty1, see a "login: " prompt, and that (also) works. (This is the >>> initial symptom I had reported.) >>=20 >> So I tried commenting out hw.vga.textmode=3D"1" and I saw everything >> I expected in my context. Whiteish on black background (or at least >> something very dark). I did not take videos to do detailed >> inspections. >=20 > Didn't work for me. Then again my old eyes didn't detect much = difference in=20 > contrast. >=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>> hw.vga.textmode=3D"1" >>> # vbe_max_resolution=3D1280x800 >>>=20 >>> This works -- boots OK, and I see kernel probe (&c.) messages; this = is a >>> text console (mostly blue text; some white, against a dark = background. >>> It's a medium-light blue, so it's easy enough to read (unlike a navy >>> blue, for example). >>=20 >> FYI: whiteish on black (or at least something very dark) >> in my hw.vga.textmode=3D"1" context. I saw everything here >> as well. I did not take videos to do detailed inspections. >>=20 >> I did not notice any way to tell hw.vga.textmode=3D"1" from >> having no hw.vga.textmode assignment at all. But, again, >> I did not set up for an after-the-fact detailed review of >> what is displayed. >=20 > Everything becomes normal when X starts, except for the three machines=20= > downstairs which don't use X. FYI: My testing did not span using X. I do build lumina, but basically as part of an environment cross-check on building, not for use. Still, I could try to start lumina if needed. =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Jan 6 21:03:02 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54C1C4DF3FB for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 21:03:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mack@macktronics.com) Received: from mail.macktronics.com (coco.macktronics.com [209.181.253.65]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DB1zT32LQz3HwH for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 21:03:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mack@macktronics.com) Received: from olive.macktronics.com (unknown [209.181.253.67]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.macktronics.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F22F187A; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 15:02:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 15:02:36 -0600 (CST) From: Dan Mack X-X-Sender: mack@localhost.local To: Mark Millard cc: Cy Schubert , Toomas Soome , David Wolfskill , John Kennedy , chrisb , Current FreeBSD Subject: Re: boot loader blank screen In-Reply-To: <932D333B-8478-4C79-976C-9394D0E93995@yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <83EB3B04-EAE8-4EC3-820B-2F5C3BADE948@me.com> <66908803-BA6F-4538-9D93-6F85A95108C9@me.com> <831788F9-F97F-4A02-A6F9-AE05219DA2E9@me.com> <63A29589-22B5-495B-8E0D-14E13091D939@yahoo.com> <202101061751.106HpGrc002714@slippy.cwsent.com> <932D333B-8478-4C79-976C-9394D0E93995@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (GSO 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DB1zT32LQz3HwH X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.80 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[209.181.253.65:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.181.253.64/29:c]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[209.181.253.65:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[macktronics.com,none]; RCPT_COUNT_SEVEN(0.00)[7]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[yahoo.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:209.181.252.0/23, country:US]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[cschubert.com,me.com,catwhisker.org,phouka.net,fastmail.net,freebsd.org]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2021 21:03:02 -0000 I've tried multiple rebuilds to no avail - what finally fixed it for me was to add this to /boot/loader.conf and rebooted: screen.textmode=1 I don't use X11 on this box but only had console access so needed the console to work :-) Works for me, your mileage may vary. Dan On Wed, 6 Jan 2021, Mark Millard wrote: > > > On 2021-Jan-6, at 09:51, Cy Schubert wrote: > >> In message <63A29589-22B5-495B-8E0D-14E13091D939@yahoo.com>, Mark Millard >> write >> s: >>> >>> >>> On 2021-Jan-5, at 17:54, David Wolfskill wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 06, 2021 at 12:46:08AM +0200, Toomas Soome wrote: >>>>> ... >>>>>> the 58661b3ba9eb should hopefully fix the loader text mode issue, it woul >>> d be cool if you can verify:) >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks, >>>>>> toomas >>>>> >>>>> I think, I got it fixed (at least idwer did confirm for his system, thanks >>> ). If you can test this patch: http://148-52-235-80.sta.estpak.ee/0001-loader >>> -rewrite-font-install.patch >> ewrite-font-install.patch> it would be really nice. >>>>> >>>>> thanks, >>>>> toomas >>>> >>>> I tested with each of the following "stanzas' in /boot/loader.conf, >>>> using vt (vs. syscons) in each case (though that breaks video reset >>>> on resume after suspend): >>>> >>>> . . . >>> >>> I've done no experiments with an explicit vbe_max_resolution >>> setting. My context for hw.vga.textmode="0" shows up as >>> 1920x1200. (I do have the font for this set to 8x16, making >>> for lots of character cells across and down.) >>> >>> >>> For the below I do not have hw.vga.textmode="0". >>> >>>> # hw.vga.textmode="0" >> >> textmode=1 doesn't work either. Been using it for years and this is the >> first time it's borked. >> >>>> # vbe_max_resolution=1280x800 >>>> >>>> (That is, not specifying anything for hw.vga.textmode or >>>> vbe_max_resolution.) >>>> >>>> This boots OK, but I see no kernel probe messages or single- to >>>> multi-user mode messages. I can use (e.g.) Ctl+Alt+F2 to switch to >>>> vty1, see a "login: " prompt, and that (also) works. (This is the >>>> initial symptom I had reported.) >>> >>> So I tried commenting out hw.vga.textmode="1" and I saw everything >>> I expected in my context. Whiteish on black background (or at least >>> something very dark). I did not take videos to do detailed >>> inspections. >> >> Didn't work for me. Then again my old eyes didn't detect much difference in >> contrast. >> >>> >>> >>>> hw.vga.textmode="1" >>>> # vbe_max_resolution=1280x800 >>>> >>>> This works -- boots OK, and I see kernel probe (&c.) messages; this is a >>>> text console (mostly blue text; some white, against a dark background. >>>> It's a medium-light blue, so it's easy enough to read (unlike a navy >>>> blue, for example). >>> >>> FYI: whiteish on black (or at least something very dark) >>> in my hw.vga.textmode="1" context. I saw everything here >>> as well. I did not take videos to do detailed inspections. >>> >>> I did not notice any way to tell hw.vga.textmode="1" from >>> having no hw.vga.textmode assignment at all. But, again, >>> I did not set up for an after-the-fact detailed review of >>> what is displayed. >> >> Everything becomes normal when X starts, except for the three machines >> downstairs which don't use X. > > FYI: My testing did not span using X. I do build lumina, but > basically as part of an environment cross-check on building, > not for use. Still, I could try to start lumina if needed. > > > === > Mark Millard > marklmi at yahoo.com > ( dsl-only.net went > away in early 2018-Mar) > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Jan 6 22:20:31 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CDFE4E1122 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 22:20:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from warlock@phouka1.phouka.net) Received: from phouka1.phouka.net (phouka1.phouka.net [107.170.196.116]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "phouka.net", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DB3ht1RBxz3P0k for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 22:20:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from warlock@phouka1.phouka.net) Received: from phouka1.phouka.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phouka1.phouka.net (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 106MJCDg044571 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 6 Jan 2021 14:19:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from warlock@phouka1.phouka.net) Received: (from warlock@localhost) by phouka1.phouka.net (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 106MJCA2044570; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 14:19:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from warlock) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 14:19:12 -0800 From: John Kennedy To: Toomas Soome Cc: Current FreeBSD Subject: Re: boot loader blank screen Message-ID: References: <83EB3B04-EAE8-4EC3-820B-2F5C3BADE948@me.com> <66908803-BA6F-4538-9D93-6F85A95108C9@me.com> <831788F9-F97F-4A02-A6F9-AE05219DA2E9@me.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DB3ht1RBxz3P0k X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.20 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[107.170.196.116:from]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[phouka.net]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[107.170.196.116:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[me.com]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[warlock@phouka.net,warlock@phouka1.phouka.net]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14061, ipnet:107.170.192.0/18, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[warlock@phouka.net,warlock@phouka1.phouka.net]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2021 22:20:31 -0000 On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 07:09:22PM -0800, John Kennedy wrote: > On Wed, Jan 06, 2021 at 12:46:08AM +0200, Toomas Soome wrote: > > I think, I got it fixed (at least idwer did confirm for his system, thanks). If you can test this patch: http://148-52-235-80.sta.estpak.ee/0001-loader-rewrite-font-install.patch it would be really nice. > > I regret to say that it didn't fix my issue. I saw your commit of 99870c70bac7 (loader: rewrite vidc_install_font), 31c2bcad7e44 (loader: remove left over call to unsetenv()), and belatedly babda0952f8355a89b3241d5e8943c7da0fa4f6b (hw.vga.textmode -> screen.textmode). Didn't fix the blank screen, and I thought the hw.vga.textmode workaround had broken until I read that commit fully (will try it next reboot). At main-c255633-g3efe9b3e77c3 right now (also past your f1829643c476. 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My coverage at this point is more of a check if something reverted for my type of context but when it started my context was a failure case. I'm no longer testing a context based on the earlier patch (before its commital) but now caught up to recently enough on the ThreadRipper to have screen.textmode be the intended means of control: # ~/fbsd-based-on-what-freebsd-main.sh mm-src b1ea63e2e3c92d1346af067f5cf609e3e062f8b9 CommitDate: 2021-01-06 13:18:37 -0800 fa0b97dbe6e1 b1ea63e2e3c9 (HEAD -> mm-src) mm-src snapshot for mm's = patched build in git context. FreeBSD FBSDFHUGE 13.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 13.0-CURRENT = mm-src-c255637-gfa0b97dbe6e1 GENERIC-NODBG amd64 amd64 1300133 1300133 For this vintage of my context . . . screen.textmode=3D"1" works. (With the huge, blocky font on the = 1920x1200 display. But nothing significant about that is recently changed.) screen.textmode=3D"0" works, including with screen.font=3D"8x16" . There is a difference, in that it displays some material at the very beginning that it was not displaying since the recent problems started (until now or so). This initial material displays in screen.textmode=3D"1" style = before the display switches to the screen.textmode=3D"0" style of display for = alter output. (I'm not complaining, just noting the visible sequence.) =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar) From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Jan 6 23:02:49 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FEEF4E4495 for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 23:02:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from warlock@phouka1.phouka.net) Received: from phouka1.phouka.net (phouka1.phouka.net [107.170.196.116]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "phouka.net", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DB4dh2wqMz3j7r for ; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 23:02:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from warlock@phouka1.phouka.net) Received: from phouka1.phouka.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phouka1.phouka.net (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 106N1U0H060621 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 6 Jan 2021 15:01:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from warlock@phouka1.phouka.net) Received: (from warlock@localhost) by phouka1.phouka.net (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 106N1UnV060620; Wed, 6 Jan 2021 15:01:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from warlock) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2021 15:01:30 -0800 From: John Kennedy To: Mark Millard Cc: Toomas Soome , Current FreeBSD Subject: Re: boot loader blank screen Message-ID: References: <83EB3B04-EAE8-4EC3-820B-2F5C3BADE948@me.com> <66908803-BA6F-4538-9D93-6F85A95108C9@me.com> <831788F9-F97F-4A02-A6F9-AE05219DA2E9@me.com> <63A29589-22B5-495B-8E0D-14E13091D939@yahoo.com> <202101061751.106HpGrc002714@slippy.cwsent.com> <932D333B-8478-4C79-976C-9394D0E93995@yahoo.com> <78779957-4960-4DF8-8595-F3937BACC398@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <78779957-4960-4DF8-8595-F3937BACC398@yahoo.com> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DB4dh2wqMz3j7r X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.20 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[me.com,freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[phouka.net]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[107.170.196.116:from]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[107.170.196.116:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[yahoo.com]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[warlock@phouka.net,warlock@phouka1.phouka.net]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14061, ipnet:107.170.192.0/18, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[warlock@phouka.net,warlock@phouka1.phouka.net]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2021 23:02:49 -0000 On Wed, Jan 06, 2021 at 02:40:32PM -0800, Mark Millard wrote: > ... screen.textmode="0" works, including with screen.font="8x16" . There > is a difference, in that it displays some material at the very beginning > that it was not displaying since the recent problems started (until now > or so). This initial material displays in screen.textmode="1" style before > the display switches to the screen.textmode="0" style of display for alter > output. (I'm not complaining, just noting the visible sequence.) For my system, that change seems to be with the nvidia video driver gets loaded. Basically it looks like a screen clear and potential font change depending on your setup. Seems logical since something is probably getting (re)initialized at that point. 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[88.105.96.80]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a25sm6215503wmb.25.2021.01.06.23.55.59 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 06 Jan 2021 23:55:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: Git and complementary web interfaces (some fast but basic, others fuller-featured) To: Jamie Landeg-Jones , freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <94447.1609779520@critter.freebsd.dk> <94622.1609782682@critter.freebsd.dk> <202101051308.105D8IMh060928@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> <202101060232.1062WKMu005019@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> <593c762a-aaa7-a114-43a3-20251b8e92ef@gmail.com> <202101061434.106EY802043911@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> From: Graham Perrin Message-ID: <221f60b4-aa33-6ddc-6b1a-85bf5c35ae1e@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 07:55:58 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <202101061434.106EY802043911@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-GB X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DBJSx6cqwz4fJj X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[88.105.96.80:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::42e:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::42e:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::42e:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2021 07:56:03 -0000 On 06/01/2021 14:34, Jamie Landeg-Jones wrote: > Git: timestamps > Graham Perrin wrote: > >> Alongside 'tree', click 'log' > Thanks, but I wanted the file dates, not the log! > >> Also/alternatively there's the read-only mirror on GitHub so, for example: >> >> > I know, which is why I miss it on the FreeBSD main site. > > cheers! Strictly speaking, main site does still direct developers to the Subversion repository and the Git mirror on GitHub. Re: , things such as "should be viewed as rough drafts for material for the handbook". cgit describes itself as "hyperfast" with "basic repository browsing" as a feature. Beyond those basics, I guess that it will be appropriate to ensure awareness of complementary web-based repository browsers including GitHub and GitLab; these might be described as fuller-featured (without explicitly describing them as relatively slow). Awareness through the Developers menu at and so on. HTH From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Jan 7 08:28:03 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D234C7E95 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 08:28:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DBK9t6Jj7z4h4y for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 08:28:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [188.174.56.113] (helo=c720-r368166.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kxQeG-0002cG-6p for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Thu, 07 Jan 2021 09:28:00 +0100 Received: from c720-r368166.fritz.box (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c720-r368166.unixarea.de (8.16.1/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id 1078S0gV002793 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 09:28:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by c720-r368166.fritz.box (8.16.1/8.14.9/Submit) id 1078RxGU002792 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 09:27:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: c720-r368166.fritz.box: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 09:27:59 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: poudriere && moving from svn to git for downloading source Message-ID: Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 13.0-CURRENT r368166 (amd64) X-message-flag: Mails containing HTML will not be read! 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Could someone please explain or point me to a document which explains the now to be used syntax to create (i.e. checkout) the jail and the ports tree. Actually I'm using something like: # poudriere jail -c -j freebsd-r368166 -m svn+http -v head@r368166 or # poudriere jail -c -j freebsd-head -m svn+http and for the ports tree # poudriere ports -c -p ports-20201130 -m svn -U svn://svn.freebsd.org/ports/ Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ guru@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ +49-176-38902045 Public GnuPG key: http://www.unixarea.de/key.pub ¡Con Cuba no te metas! «» Don't mess with Cuba! «» Leg Dich nicht mit Kuba an! http://www.cubadebate.cu/noticias/2020/12/25/en-video-con-cuba-no-te-metas/ From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Jan 7 08:55:05 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4003D4C8A9E for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 08:55:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mad@madpilot.net) Received: from mail.madpilot.net (vogon.madpilot.net [159.69.1.99]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DBKn43Dswz4k5Q for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 08:55:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mad@madpilot.net) Received: from mail (mail [192.168.254.3]) by mail.madpilot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DBKmx0bM7z6dQ0; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 09:54:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.madpilot.net ([192.168.254.3]) by mail (mail.madpilot.net [192.168.254.3]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id ANIJq__7YoSG; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 09:54:54 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: poudriere && moving from svn to git for downloading source To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: Cc: Matthias Apitz From: Guido Falsi Message-ID: <38b6b56e-bd5e-9816-fc6a-88f828265677@madpilot.net> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 09:54:54 +0100 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DBKn43Dswz4k5Q X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[159.69.1.99:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[madpilot.net:s=bjowvop61wgh]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[159.69.1.99:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[madpilot.net:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[madpilot.net,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:159.69.0.0/16, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2021 08:55:05 -0000 On 07/01/21 09:27, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > Hello, > > I use poudriere to compile my used ports. Could someone please explain > or point me to a document which explains the now to be used syntax to > create (i.e. checkout) the jail and the ports tree. Actually I'm using > something like: > > # poudriere jail -c -j freebsd-r368166 -m svn+http -v head@r368166 > > or > > # poudriere jail -c -j freebsd-head -m svn+http > I updated yesterday using git. I could not find a way to force a specific commit via git in poudriere for base, so I created my own for of the sources in github, which I will update manually, in this way I can reference there and know exactly which "revision" I'm getting. This setup would also allow me to test patches by creaating branches and can be used to submit patches and even commit them(if I'm authorized, having only a ports commit bit) I used this command to recreate the jail: poudriere jail -c -j 13amd64 -v main -a amd64 -m git+https where main is the main branch, just like head used to be. > and for the ports tree > > # poudriere ports -c -p ports-20201130 -m svn -U svn://svn.freebsd.org/ports/ > AFAIK the ports tree is still on subversion, so I'm keeping my old setup (using portshaker). When the ports tree will move I also plan to create my own fork of the ports tree repo, with some branches I will use for testing things and have poudriere grab those. I have not tested using git for ports but I guess command line would look like this: poudriere ports -c -p ports-testing -m git -B testing -U https://github.com/user/ports-fork.git Obviously if a user is not interested in testing things or create patches he/she have no need to create a fork and can grab bits directly from https://git.freebsd.org/ports.git. AFAIK creating forks and a lot of branches is "the git way". -- Guido Falsi From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Jan 7 09:07:53 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 159784C8C61 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 09:07:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@cretaforce.gr) Received: from relay4.cretaforce.gr (relay4.cretaforce.gr [195.201.253.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.cretaforce.gr", Issuer "RapidSSL RSA CA 2018" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DBL3r1HlCz4kxt for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 09:07:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@cretaforce.gr) Received: from server1.cretaforce.gr (server1.cretaforce.gr [138.201.248.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.cretaforce.gr", Issuer "RapidSSL RSA CA 2018" (verified OK)) by smtp2.cretaforce.gr (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 070F61FA77 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 11:07:50 +0200 (EET) Received: from macbook-air.fritz.box (athedsl-4430180.home.otenet.gr [79.129.137.84]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: chris@cretaforce.gr) by server1.cretaforce.gr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CB09C27358 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 11:07:49 +0200 (EET) From: Christos Chatzaras Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.40.0.2.32\)) Subject: Re: poudriere && moving from svn to git for downloading source Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 11:07:47 +0200 References: <38b6b56e-bd5e-9816-fc6a-88f828265677@madpilot.net> To: FreeBSD Current In-Reply-To: <38b6b56e-bd5e-9816-fc6a-88f828265677@madpilot.net> Message-Id: <10B0497D-188B-47B4-90AA-00A9C3C2C991@cretaforce.gr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.40.0.2.32) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DBL3r1HlCz4kxt X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.10 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:195.201.253.147]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[cretaforce.gr:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[79.129.137.84:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[195.201.253.147:from]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:195.201.0.0/16, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[cretaforce.gr:s=cretaforce]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[chris]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cretaforce.gr]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[195.201.253.147:from:127.0.2.255]; DWL_DNSWL_LOW(-1.00)[cretaforce.gr:dkim]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[195.201.253.147:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2021 09:07:53 -0000 > Obviously if a user is not interested in testing things or create = patches he/she have no need to create a fork and can grab bits directly = from https://git.freebsd.org/ports.git. Ports are not yet in git.= From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Jan 7 09:31:01 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03D9A4C9AC8 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 09:31:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mad@madpilot.net) Received: from mail.madpilot.net (vogon.madpilot.net [159.69.1.99]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DBLZX0p2Qz4mJM for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 09:30:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mad@madpilot.net) Received: from mail (mail [192.168.254.3]) by mail.madpilot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DBLZV6sZZz6dQr; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 10:30:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.madpilot.net ([192.168.254.3]) by mail (mail.madpilot.net [192.168.254.3]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 7nIR9Ca7dCMd; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 10:30:56 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: poudriere && moving from svn to git for downloading source To: Christos Chatzaras , FreeBSD Current References: <38b6b56e-bd5e-9816-fc6a-88f828265677@madpilot.net> <10B0497D-188B-47B4-90AA-00A9C3C2C991@cretaforce.gr> From: Guido Falsi Message-ID: <507bc8bb-070b-7f6b-7409-23a2e0c5781d@madpilot.net> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 10:30:56 +0100 In-Reply-To: <10B0497D-188B-47B4-90AA-00A9C3C2C991@cretaforce.gr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DBLZX0p2Qz4mJM X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[159.69.1.99:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[madpilot.net:s=bjowvop61wgh]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[159.69.1.99:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[madpilot.net:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[madpilot.net,quarantine]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:159.69.0.0/16, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2021 09:31:01 -0000 On 07/01/21 10:07, Christos Chatzaras wrote: > >> Obviously if a user is not interested in testing things or create patches he/she have no need to create a fork and can grab bits directly from https://git.freebsd.org/ports.git. > > Ports are not yet in git. Yes I said that above (you cut that part of my message). In agree my example should have stated this again here. -- Guido Falsi From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Jan 7 10:03:56 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D73F4CA7FC; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 10:03:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uqs@freebsd.org) Received: from acme.spoerlein.net (acme.spoerlein.net [IPv6:2a05:fc87:1:5::15]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "www.spoerlein.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DBMJX0Ffvz4p9L; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 10:03:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uqs@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (acme.spoerlein.net [IPv6:2a05:fc87:1:5:0:0:0:15]) by acme.spoerlein.net (8.16.1/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 107A3rat017761 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 7 Jan 2021 11:03:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from uqs@freebsd.org) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 11:03:53 +0100 From: Ulrich =?utf-8?B?U3DDtnJsZWlu?= To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Cc: bapt@freebsd.org, git@freebsd.org Subject: Re: poudriere && moving from svn to git for downloading source Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, bapt@freebsd.org, git@freebsd.org References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/2.0.3 (2020-12-04) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DBMJX0Ffvz4p9L X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.00 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[freebsd.org]; ASN(0.00)[asn:39540, ipnet:2a05:fc87::/32, country:CH] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2021 10:03:56 -0000 On Thu, 2021-01-07 at 09:27:59 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: > >Hello, > >I use poudriere to compile my used ports. Could someone please explain >or point me to a document which explains the now to be used syntax to >create (i.e. checkout) the jail and the ports tree. Actually I'm using >something like: > ># poudriere jail -c -j freebsd-r368166 -m svn+http -v head@r368166 > >or > ># poudriere jail -c -j freebsd-head -m svn+http > >and for the ports tree > ># poudriere ports -c -p ports-20201130 -m svn -U svn://svn.freebsd.org/ports/ > >Thanks > > matthias We've recently discussed in the Git WG what would be required to get a seemless migration going (as in, you switch src + ports to git and things will just work). Thanks for flagging the specific revision problem though, not sure yet what to do about that. Cheers Uli From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Jan 7 10:06:42 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E2854CABE9 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 10:06:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from maybe.home.utahime.org (gate.home.utahime.org [183.180.29.210]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DBMMj258Nz4pbD for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 10:06:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from eastasia.home.utahime.org (eastasia.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-384) server-digest SHA384) (No client certificate requested) by maybe.home.utahime.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5AEC34866C; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 19:06:32 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (rolling.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.11]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-384) server-digest SHA384) (No client certificate requested) by eastasia.home.utahime.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 306CA7FC2A; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 19:06:31 +0900 (JST) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.103.0 at eastasia.home.utahime.org Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2021 19:05:43 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20210107.190543.1687211847043633803.yasu@utahime.org> To: guru@unixarea.de Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: poudriere && moving from svn to git for downloading source From: Yasuhiro Kimura In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mew version 6.8 on Emacs 27.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DBMMj258Nz4pbD X-Spamd-Bar: + X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.30 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:spf-authorized.utahime.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HFILTER_HELO_IP_A(1.00)[maybe.home.utahime.org]; HFILTER_HELO_NORES_A_OR_MX(0.30)[maybe.home.utahime.org]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[utahime.org:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[183.180.29.210:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:2519, ipnet:183.180.0.0/16, country:JP]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[utahime.org:s=maybe2019112701]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[utahime.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[183.180.29.210:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2021 10:06:42 -0000 From: Matthias Apitz Subject: poudriere && moving from svn to git for downloading source Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 09:27:59 +0100 > > Hello, > > I use poudriere to compile my used ports. Could someone please explain > or point me to a document which explains the now to be used syntax to > create (i.e. checkout) the jail and the ports tree. Actually I'm using > something like: > > # poudriere jail -c -j freebsd-r368166 -m svn+http -v head@r368166 > > or > > # poudriere jail -c -j freebsd-head -m svn+http > > and for the ports tree > > # poudriere ports -c -p ports-20201130 -m svn -U svn://svn.freebsd.org/ports/ > > Thanks > > matthias At first I don't necessarily recommend it. But you can use following steps. 1. Clone src repository somewhere you prefer git clone https://git.freebsd.org/src.git /somewhere/you/want/to/chechout 2. 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R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[66.163.187.31:from:127.0.2.255]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[66.163.187.31:from]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[66.163.187.31:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[current] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2021 10:08:03 -0000 I just upgraded current and was prompted to delete libncurses.so.9 which I did.I could not find another version in lib so I need to reinstall libncurses.so.9.Let me please know hot tothank youFilippo From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Jan 7 10:24:34 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D84674CB5FD for ; 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Skuhra" To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reinstalling libncurses.so.9 In-Reply-To: <1379099439.8120254.1610014077776@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1379099439.8120254.1610014077776.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1379099439.8120254.1610014077776@mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) Emacs/28.0 Mule/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DBMmK4TvBz4r2G X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.44 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gojira.at:s=mail202005]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:94.130.200.20]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[gojira.at]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[94.130.200.20:from:127.0.2.255]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gojira.at:+]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.94)[-0.942]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[94.130.200.20:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:94.130.0.0/16, country:DE]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2021 10:24:34 -0000 On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 11:07:57 +0100, Filippo Moretti wrote: > > I just upgraded current and was prompted to delete libncurses.so.9 > which I did.I could not find another version in lib so I need to > reinstall libncurses.so.9.Let me please know hot tothank youFilippo Why? What's broken? I think the commit message explains everything: https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=821aa63a09402935da0a73abf20ba0441562aa07 -- Herbert From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Jan 7 10:27:08 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D16D24CBB1B for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 10:27:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mad@madpilot.net) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (mailman.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DBMqJ4cnkz4r7d for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 10:27:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mad@madpilot.net) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 9E7AE4CB9D8; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 10:27:08 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E42D4CB470 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 10:27:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mad@madpilot.net) Received: from mail.madpilot.net (vogon.madpilot.net [159.69.1.99]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DBMqJ3YHqz4rGh for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 10:27:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mad@madpilot.net) Received: from mail (mail [192.168.254.3]) by mail.madpilot.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DBMqG3cWpz6dPM; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 11:27:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.madpilot.net ([192.168.254.3]) by mail (mail.madpilot.net [192.168.254.3]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id pz93vg8bR_Lx; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 11:27:04 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: Reinstalling libncurses.so.9 To: Filippo Moretti , FreeBSD Current References: <1379099439.8120254.1610014077776.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1379099439.8120254.1610014077776@mail.yahoo.com> From: Guido Falsi Message-ID: <4d74fa34-d668-ff60-018e-f07c8f644a2c@madpilot.net> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 11:27:03 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1379099439.8120254.1610014077776@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DBMqJ3YHqz4rGh X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2021 10:27:08 -0000 On 07/01/21 11:07, Filippo Moretti wrote: > I just upgraded current and was prompted to delete libncurses.so.9 which I did.I could not find another version in lib so I need to reinstall libncurses.so.9.Let me please know hot tothank youFilippo No software needs it. But you will need to rebuild any port that happens to link against it (for example tmux). I did reinstall all packages to be on the safe side. -- Guido Falsi From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Jan 7 10:30:41 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 169B74CBBE3 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 10:30:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from filippomore@yahoo.com) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DBMvN5q9Hz4rfb for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 10:30:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from filippomore@yahoo.com) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id C5F0B4CBD6A; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 10:30:40 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5ADE4CBE27 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 10:30:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from filippomore@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic305-20.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (sonic305-20.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [66.163.185.146]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DBMvM6G1Dz4rTQ for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 10:30:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from filippomore@yahoo.com) X-SONIC-DKIM-SIGN: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1610015438; bh=mw7E5h20z784Lnx3zIAu3qh1ZS2DMLMa4UBsuA57HEo=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From:Subject; b=NcAsmxhtFA+/0hecDhGAjh7iYo5Int233pXPK3FUt+JPyQN33tdCH3FJ08tpjsxuk7ZeCOHDBjVl1/7zJbGaSUjx58vq4YC6H1ejKLsX9v7egSjzEgkvRHkD5scItmaDIhuZSJRUEbhlpWptZ49tZbNhsyIWhqxXUuo3iW0Omvdr2OgXxNsO3uTAnPZrbK2bTyIXRqFfYg1dONZyJpM6DpWH2KYyRFgmSYqYcWVXjefa7XknhhmoGpQ/6J+ovc2lE1eZLOeAHFJz5iOhCBHEAXmG9TwmMjOXJDV8faBCxTi5NmQOEz/XEZVnU8vHI2L6l+2U6Q5wbQllsW7VLopHRw== X-YMail-OSG: 05Ha0JgVM1leV1cB4J3Ifd6PzVwtxATBn2c4CppyT0r7BNtMXGZqwMZmNJ9nVnw PQtGLfaKHu35C9Nrl.cjloOKn.vKoDoADPauVs2Owr6jL9NbygOlGriv_iVoazmGDcAmFgJcwzzQ rS6xb2hoY7CuXU.HPXGy3oifJGLv1faatIUWieg8qXcMjUjNrSgUxyb4a55qCeWYFHRk2s36RN8t akqY4G0.iEeXXMvpgllnPk2WzpgNOaVitgLaOvQ2bFhRW3VCZprMTu0mQkB2Nyd.4wkSfPyo0n0P r3sg2KYt78qhmVVjxpXVIgrNRRNA3gzBB3sIGak1TpQjS_RR2.OWysfm2cgGkOJ3Ahgs3oPcDSzY _XxZ0.NKrqES5ZqHp3efEQtHzPlAqlG3QQ.o_Nndx628_k9B10f5xxh6vaBtEZ.1Gn0L5831N3CX ycxTA4IyZ4ga9FFyEb3KmbYtT8JxJa.ImwHwnt2AJPih.BcK8aeO_ne1JalNgeaLmjp3IFc3ERLD eHo3SzC6AHYp4So_Ie_pxsK52z_m9Y9HVBzhJNeJo2k8QMBEW26BQJ6nBaGsgjEY.G7fxuGiQzsB 8z8rHHk3lvcIlJ.L9VFXbQZCI.5blJW4iCUyOPWWvRhqBgyznoDMs8f705zYUY46KWqlTBDzemDu bdyE88zdRbCQRG8xnGwAnEy8cy8w1Q029LDyU2wZaxGgG4RQKEgebiGdzSuaxu6yvwowYPDl3BdX OiICH0hwk1vtPHb9geKh9QoL23bCF9nJ9NBq3q1nXUy2WVFeuKQpFqiAEVpVcHZgcH6ulzLtOCzf wNjq8NnO4tLW56o5Py4B7iVKgwuF9PWviuaQFm5HOd0R8YmHlUq4fxm5sphArjTRTCecjz4p2AQ8 YFuumlBjcYDSUxZ7CLpAg.mUM2hCVsHMx3b7EnONIumvrPickmuKK_aZWIPheuAduuccYlVnSS0D TwZhGNgprswCu4lsdWGC4QNtGoWyZWzirpaNsQaI_SBhDSouUMkiPZHybNficm4dkor9yJZDphF7 Oh1oux9eK20PuezVONv8f7Xbtj2lg_Poe02s_95c8fhM245PbSwEr2aFk9_3NeistWAYTf9qorFZ JiCNXTDs9DwJ9BfaNut.t0vGzFViuBOZNguPsJTquzuyoE3QRipzmHBANxP0pCF1sWlbuchruTda avxxYOqN9PcuveHOarG.n8JW9HSsh1Z5TOfmDk94FvOd7ttF4pJkwJUtP9GTLrsgcQoxb.iLbLRR ZJL85L2vLkQx.eg5LMQtT7cZ9q7Zvae0BsEdszzP7a4qSRlwsAIouRoI97Fnx.f2X9Wqqvj9HPvg 3.x9cFLnB4NTjqKOS7YCqHjNrC3SBQSMrhnIM2KUhJz_P1gEEM7vEDeow5MsqtGygz_JlytDPn.7 K5St39mw46KMGhouAUi_xWXCano4amtHJW7KfyeRBUjEj.FfB95OIMDD8Vdi6PtX1sLmov5ZrtS9 FNuto6IaHSTOg9PZNe7HYCVtuSNWB0G6tuzPlSiunHuzRj1fF6hZIh80irZ5SqIpizoGfh62Ml_w BtG9xWSid42ALo_iEJiwCaqCiNHOlsDy78uVov9WA7QXpQU.eCU3euQYXP6uEAgghDVVbavz23he mNzVZOw_XaYS0wD2agaw.0BiS9d6cWp3pOyc8F5fwToHCFFZ5e_.aL4lq5oWX1Jqr99e3Hmfhw0u SnfanLGDSFkwIfYzpgkhOUoczh009vVirEPe1tmepRM3WNpM0mQqFZ7DsyJ3Gtkw3SaL8z7YIe6D XxkOkBF5zKz5Zl.qJTV77FL0oA7JXQgDgKKgWw2wAOT_aZXbF9bL.Kwb9A3LPa9KH9VJK8mJAVgi Kgk0jvZLhEASfYl.Iv0.Nc_OTliJwrG8sB.O7Rrbt9tDDCc2ziIfgPJVnWBSKUDws7gbd14iUx9j OEuRcCova9A9ETridVT9V9J0ClA5QysvcejK5tudVhi0DnHAWN2fs2waG6de.ibwjoBBX.QBF_yw RDOHDZyYfBKHgSJNRA0O8sTROFdl2N2ncQJ.XdeNonZ_00mjs_GMadQ2Pwn4oY9medB7fA7db574 Tb48o.6MQBApPIC4J6ePSnwK7LOOoc03C997JRLfeIbE3s4CTAPgu4ubs0TxteRZDpxZ8C0HkS3T qkq8hELe8iBLflky9wbyTR1HtTh463JvBahT4Um.BsKTVEtBBe4hZw3_N.jGmE3ddL.je.bWokJz fLS9GDUrdVMMQlggRSfMNjnW9Jgzl75zsVuz449v9qphtGRjVPEBwXsy0ca_uMHnsoEtFGaKu9hl NpGyJ9zXDTovHncvfbNIXrzF.Hxzo.rkbzg850eceeK2bywy_QVaARJKyBHvF7wNtLupA9k.vPT4 nVLIohZC8SeRwJSwozu0LAM0_HwdIOjJntJtj.kuneGQpkOd6qyIUPY0SLmq7_PKZys4G5MRu.Lc naKSk Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic305.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 10:30:38 +0000 Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 10:30:33 +0000 (UTC) From: Filippo Moretti To: "Herbert J. Skuhra" , FreeBSD Current Message-ID: <598701587.8114353.1610015433417@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1735595923.8125464.1610015289818@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1379099439.8120254.1610014077776.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1379099439.8120254.1610014077776@mail.yahoo.com> <87sg7d9h9i.wl-herbert@gojira.at> <1735595923.8125464.1610015289818@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Reinstalling libncurses.so.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.17278 YMailNorrin Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:84.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/84.0 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DBMvM6G1Dz4rTQ X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.93 / 15.00]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.93)[-0.933]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36646, ipnet:66.163.184.0/21, country:US]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[66.163.185.146:from]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[66.163.185.146:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[66.163.185.146:from]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[66.163.185.146:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[current] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2021 10:30:41 -0000 I also tried to rebuld the ports but I got errors from dependency.Maybe I should rebuild using pkgs?Filippo On Thursday, January 7, 2021, 11:28:09 AM GMT+1, Filippo Moretti wrote: The following do not work bash,mc,xterm I did try to symlink libncursessw.so.9 libncurses.so.9 but it did not helpthank you Filippo On Thursday, January 7, 2021, 11:24:56 AM GMT+1, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 11:07:57 +0100, Filippo Moretti wrote: > > I just upgraded current and was prompted to delete libncurses.so.9 > which I did.I could not find another version in lib so I need to > reinstall libncurses.so.9.Let me please know hot tothank youFilippo Why? What's broken? I think the commit message explains everything: https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=821aa63a09402935da0a73abf20ba0441562aa07 -- Herbert _______________________________________________ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Jan 7 11:04:00 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6A5D4CC346 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 11:04:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from filippomore@yahoo.com) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DBNdr2xjwz4sxg for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 11:04:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from filippomore@yahoo.com) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 6344B4CC345; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 11:04:00 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61E0F4CC344 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 11:04:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from filippomore@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic311-23.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (sonic311-23.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [66.163.188.204]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DBNdq2CvYz4svd for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 11:03:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from filippomore@yahoo.com) X-SONIC-DKIM-SIGN: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1610017436; bh=MNqnBe4mHHRQ3C9nMsCvt5ugUpBLEEeHyeZUkgruAh7=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From:Subject; b=I2QJT6QLElbu5rjD80Ukbyd9Ox+ty/322aPRgTmFs09+VbWieg4UFJxamY1oJIA4MJ/a1VnH4LzmojVM2xWIme2H94Pcxs4X/FB/E7geA5L2ixdHY0X5tUUM3JjS37m8Q4mOz4HXdQG6NjNvjF8ZsS6uecBHbufrDxS7XsFyogy49CrothJ/a+PtubiHAhA3EAdH+YkOK9rvfiqcqK4/ZHoJaDBUJxX1VLTSDhVC9Gc1SccNHY9RLcwDgYXUlyW3MiOtI/KJbqemkxlAYIrt2RM4lk8HQfqsDsyaA1OlByoUicn7d/oODuiFA+6L4w29ePRb5ykBm1Rlg/4U3+yGSg== X-YMail-OSG: fyqMn1UVM1m3AmtIsc691.RxFK1urQ_Glh7cSiyK2n53HDytACYPBBCtFnHT13f CZ1aK7K.2tVV1oXiIjmMWbpGeCD0rE1g8AsXThDoRfWYpt1xbot8NQS94xwKCsGXNHoAgdQQDuxY 6TTGBbsAfYXWRRz3OuG3VAsy7trL7BVZeqkWRearNUObweaVGNLVkRICjuE5XLzPZMDlpteRuqNf JuEVUh4_Ji94YZplYf5ZxqQU5PwlZvcFM895RxR8KmmTrFrghoRg1Xog27sx17r7eo7Kjy1QSa_r bzilG5zdn0KeQe9jBg3sFFSFvEUOnTzgTybVSp_x4K.yr6Hcb52TZeyzuH9jDPEXPadTDrnBhXag C4kHyIO8v2Z2yq2vKkj2qZdsb8TiOMVbfrFxXrKCTJD5Yoj9pptUssH5wUiqjrU37Eezj.gfganl 8lUNYO8d1C4..GaqfZ8CkHkBdtE6QQF1I_QWs_Lm6k05gh6fx5Ak0.G0xDAzF.y_LxRFtSC9GuUD yGNLpa9rGLefONmlK8zyc_WYhOceSIBTn7DH_dM7g8IOF0ZNokv11hji.BrnNWbVQDVfSRaKPgKG gHmAnj.o3ej8x8s6FcwzYp_spgiuEEQ8R2lFcUNvYVAsODeaJZXa6hXqYPng3DNVt.fbJAMOCg98 Wwl9Kr0HMGeOFagvC8elCK6DPzS4fQz6wL0MIFAJRZ1ZtL_OcVvS2GI1sn0FjN_78iejeMOj7bEt gft2qCdz5q8Hxgu5LUvw5tKN6tksq7gRvlLxXuO8UoY9fSf.v4YfBuLUJ1qGfIIMBTSDd1ijGzgq iizcv4TmU1djUUatwgkEHvSu3goBziL43bNP76nr_1vrX4P7VQs4Ec15O6kJVGnILxP.J0BsehK. 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Skuhra wrote: On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 11:07:57 +0100, Filippo Moretti wrote: > > I just upgraded current and was prompted to delete libncurses.so.9 > which I did.I could not find another version in lib so I need to > reinstall libncurses.so.9.Let me please know hot tothank youFilippo Why? What's broken? I think the commit message explains everything: https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=821aa63a09402935da0a73abf20ba0441562aa07 -- Herbert _______________________________________________ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Jan 7 11:04:18 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB554CC9F7 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 11:04:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@gojira.at) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (mailman.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DBNfB5C79z4t6Z for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 11:04:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@gojira.at) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id B24AB4CC5AB; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 11:04:18 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B202B4CC5AA for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 11:04:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@gojira.at) Received: from mail.bsd4all.net (mail.bsd4all.net [IPv6:2a01:4f8:13b:240c::25]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.bsd4all.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DBNf93l5Wz4t6Y for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 11:04:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from herbert@gojira.at) Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2021 12:04:09 +0100 Message-ID: <87r1mx9ffa.wl-herbert@gojira.at> From: "Herbert J. 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For a quick fix you can try: % fetch https://download.freebsd.org/ftp/snapshots/amd64/13.0-CURRENT/base.txz # tar -Jxvf base.txz lib/libncurses.so.9 # mv lib/libncurses.so.9 /usr/lib/compat 2. Find ALL installed packages that require libncurses.so.9 and rebuild them -- Herbert From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Jan 7 11:58:10 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD2784CE099 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 11:58:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rozhuk.im@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x442.google.com (mail-wr1-x442.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::442]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DBPrK69qfz4xYw for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 11:58:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rozhuk.im@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x442.google.com with SMTP id i9so5399284wrc.4 for ; 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Skuhra" Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Reinstalling libncurses.so.9 Message-ID: Reply-To: current@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: current@freebsd.org, "Herbert J. Skuhra" References: <1379099439.8120254.1610014077776.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1379099439.8120254.1610014077776@mail.yahoo.com> <87sg7d9h9i.wl-herbert@gojira.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZRiIq1nIs3lbVQNd" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87sg7d9h9i.wl-herbert@gojira.at> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DBPrS6191z4y4s X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2021 11:58:17 -0000 --ZRiIq1nIs3lbVQNd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 07, 2021 at 11:24:25AM +0100, Herbert J. Skuhra wrote: > On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 11:07:57 +0100, Filippo Moretti wrote: > >=20 > > I just upgraded current and was prompted to delete libncurses.so.9 > > which I did.I could not find another version in lib so I need to > > reinstall libncurses.so.9.Let me please know hot tothank youFilippo >=20 > Why? What's broken? >=20 > I think the commit message explains everything: >=20 > https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=3D821aa63a09402935da0a73abf20ba04= 41562aa07 > .... Seems to me that an update to the misc/compat12x port might be in order: g1-55(12.2-S)[7] cat /usr/ports/misc/compat12x/pkg-descr This package allows you to install the compat12x libraries on your system, so you can use legacy binaries that depend on them. Ports usage example: -- =2Einclude =2Eif ${OSVERSION} >=3D 1300000 LIB_DEPENDS+=3D libncurses.so.8:misc/compat12x =2Eendif -- g1-55(12.2-S)[8]=20 Peace, david --=20 David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org "President Donald Trump caused this insurrection with his lies and conspiracy theories about the election process being rigged against him." - Scott Jennings See https://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. --ZRiIq1nIs3lbVQNd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGTBAEBCgB9FiEE4owz2QxMJyaxAefyQLJg+bY2PckFAl/2905fFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEUy OEMzM0Q5MEM0QzI3MjZCMTAxRTdGMjQwQjI2MEY5QjYzNjNEQzkACgkQQLJg+bY2 Pcm3ewf+Lwff9T3o++XZcnkuDZ15vwMbIHKXI4uWRpYk0eNHccvNCc30kqyYUKfI OghBJWzlWHclPzF//QK+CG1JK8S1GW4fGOeGsMa5QtAIh2s0+O2sXs8CAYMaHdtg 5B166m+jMFNYAAn0JCEeu9T32X+MTgULhPDktBcd+Y3akoTVgzD1790qh3gW8mkU 007wCkraBWpfH/NbhlznPb1650CGkQlqv2mZM/4qtW8Z1Vx6I8gh6hzWP1frao9i tIUCmboxqrvNcvbq9Mxq6SnBE4IV03EqFBD6tnzJGfonPs/iXKCSwhbjudYB7yjp uieCSfLYeAYU+OEqf9HhlIHkSS3lIA== =hYyI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZRiIq1nIs3lbVQNd-- From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Jan 7 12:34:50 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82C954CFE64 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 12:34:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (mailman.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DBQff0wDNz514J for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 12:34:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 1CB0A4D02C6; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 12:34:50 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C7664CFE62 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 12:34:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from mx.catwhisker.org (mx.catwhisker.org [107.204.234.170]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DBQfd66lXz514H for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 12:34:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.16.1/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 107CYmm0056005; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 12:34:48 GMT (envelope-from david@albert.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 107CYkpY056004; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 04:34:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 04:34:46 -0800 From: David Wolfskill To: current@freebsd.org, "Herbert J. Skuhra" Subject: Re: Reinstalling libncurses.so.9 Message-ID: Reply-To: current@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: current@freebsd.org, "Herbert J. Skuhra" References: <1379099439.8120254.1610014077776.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1379099439.8120254.1610014077776@mail.yahoo.com> <87sg7d9h9i.wl-herbert@gojira.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="X8lvS6+i2XkOCG2/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DBQfd66lXz514H X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2021 12:34:50 -0000 --X8lvS6+i2XkOCG2/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 07, 2021 at 03:58:07AM -0800, David Wolfskill wrote: > ... > > I think the commit message explains everything: > >=20 > > https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=3D821aa63a09402935da0a73abf20ba= 0441562aa07 > > .... >=20 > Seems to me that an update to the misc/compat12x port might be in order: > .... I was wrong about that; sorry. As the commit message notes: | Since the .9 version only lived in the dev branch and never ended in a | release, it is simply removed and not added to any binary compat | package. Peace, david --=20 David H. 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Thu, 7 Jan 2021 12:38:19 +0000 Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 12:38:16 +0000 (UTC) From: Filippo Moretti To: "current@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <364889506.8115824.1610023096279@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: References: <1379099439.8120254.1610014077776.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1379099439.8120254.1610014077776@mail.yahoo.com> <87sg7d9h9i.wl-herbert@gojira.at> Subject: Re: Reinstalling libncurses.so.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.17278 YMailNorrin Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:84.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/84.0 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DBQkj2Vwsz51Xk X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2021 12:38:22 -0000 =20 Thank you Herbert,=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 your instructions allowed = me to recover all the applications so farFilippo On Thursday, January 7, 2021, 1:35:13 PM GMT+1, David Wolfskill wrote: =20 =20 On Thu, Jan 07, 2021 at 03:58:07AM -0800, David Wolfskill wrote: > ... > > I think the commit message explains everything: > >=20 > > https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=3D821aa63a09402935da0a73abf20ba= 0441562aa07 > > .... >=20 > Seems to me that an update to the misc/compat12x port might be in order: > .... I was wrong about that; sorry.=C2=A0 As the commit message notes: |=C2=A0 Since the .9 version only lived in the dev branch and never ended i= n a |=C2=A0 release, it is simply removed and not added to any binary compat |=C2=A0 package. Peace, david --=20 David H. Wolfskill=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 david@catwhisker.org "President Donald Trump caused this insurrection with his lies and conspiracy theories about the election process being rigged against him." - Scott Jennings See https://www.catwhisker.org/~david/publickey.gpg for my public key. =20 From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Jan 7 19:29:33 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA7014D964E for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 19:29:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mack@macktronics.com) Received: from mail.macktronics.com (coco.macktronics.com [209.181.253.65]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DBbs857yfz3jgq for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 19:29:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mack@macktronics.com) Received: from olive.macktronics.com (unknown [209.181.253.67]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.macktronics.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 914FF1BFC for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 13:29:02 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 13:29:02 -0600 (CST) From: Dan Mack X-X-Sender: mack@localhost.local To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: boot loader menu help missing "menu" option Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (GSO 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DBbs857yfz3jgq X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.79 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[209.181.253.65:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.181.253.64/29]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[209.181.253.65:from:127.0.2.255]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.993]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[macktronics.com,none]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:209.181.252.0/23, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2021 19:29:33 -0000 While debugging the issue with the console having display problems with some graphics cards, I noticed that in the help output from the boot loader (at the OK prompt): OK ? Available commands: reboot reboot the system heap show heap usage chain chain load boot block from device ... vbe vesa framebuffer mode management OK The way you get back to the bestie menu is by typing "menu" but that option is not in the help "?" output. Just FYI - probably something simple no? This is on tip of main / CURRENT. Dan From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Jan 7 22:15:14 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE364DD16E for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 22:15:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@mips.inka.de) Received: from mail.inka.de (mail.inka.de [IPv6:2a04:c9c7:0:1073:217:a4ff:fe3b:e77c]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DBgXK2ncxz3v4q for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 22:15:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from news@mips.inka.de) Received: from mips.inka.de (news@[127.0.0.1]) by mail.inka.de with uucp (rmailwrap 0.5) id 1kxdYf-002qTC-40; Thu, 07 Jan 2021 23:15:05 +0100 Received: from lorvorc.mips.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lorvorc.mips.inka.de (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTP id 107MANvb008413 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 23:10:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from news@lorvorc.mips.inka.de) Received: (from news@localhost) by lorvorc.mips.inka.de (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 107MANmg008412 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Thu, 7 Jan 2021 23:10:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from news) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org From: Christian Weisgerber Newsgroups: list.freebsd.current Subject: Re: Git and complementary web interfaces (some fast but basic, others fuller-featured) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 22:10:23 -0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <94447.1609779520@critter.freebsd.dk> <94622.1609782682@critter.freebsd.dk> <202101051308.105D8IMh060928@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> <202101060232.1062WKMu005019@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> <593c762a-aaa7-a114-43a3-20251b8e92ef@gmail.com> <202101061434.106EY802043911@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> <221f60b4-aa33-6ddc-6b1a-85bf5c35ae1e@gmail.com> User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (FreeBSD) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DBgXK2ncxz3v4q X-Spamd-Bar: ++ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.08 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[news]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a04:c9c7:0:1073:217:a4ff:fe3b:e77c:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.88)[0.882]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a04:c9c7:0:1073:217:a4ff:fe3b:e77c:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[inka.de]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[naddy@mips.inka.de,news@mips.inka.de]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:202113, ipnet:2a04:c9c7::/32, country:DE]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[naddy@mips.inka.de,news@mips.inka.de]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2021 22:15:14 -0000 On 2021-01-07, Graham Perrin wrote: > cgit describes itself as "hyperfast" with > "basic repository browsing" > as a feature. > > Beyond those basics, I guess that it will be appropriate to ensure > awareness of complementary web-based repository browsers including > GitHub and GitLab; Use of Git implies cloning the repository, so you have a local copy of the repository and can run _local_ browsing tools to your heart's desire. E.g., you could set up your very own cgit web interface. Personally, I'm fond of Got's curses-based repository browser tog(1). I think that one is vaguely modeled on another tool called tig(1). Undoubtedly, there are plenty of others. The main value of Git web interfaces is easy browsing of foreign repositories that you have not cloned. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Fri Jan 8 09:43:17 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D2A54C3178 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2021 09:43:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rozhuk.im@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lf1-x132.google.com (mail-lf1-x132.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::132]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DBypD1dCKz3NJn; Fri, 8 Jan 2021 09:43:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rozhuk.im@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lf1-x132.google.com with SMTP id x20so21397920lfe.12; Fri, 08 Jan 2021 01:43:15 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:date:to:subject:message-id:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=12/lXDGdjqV9o2PtgLQhhV4PgkyUPiATlgbXw+w4tJg=; b=OeJTtq9E5MYjHoXu3QxpiBYUoQKvpveo6uqmplaM5a/wGtGTK85JRy0Ri/hrZ2d0Vd bN8vpuFfLh/E9BaHsvYkOxs61CeYQA/q+YZsPMOBLTMSbf0hjy342yhhR3GgxyQ60SEV 5B+2FwkT3+mkl5Bx9wHMrFe+u9oFCZaltu1yhYVewlqloJyTnsXy3zCMUTM/TP2000yq CwvXL5zuNCVVNpe2tzH2uF0ikek+LwOT6X/E8a/iITyCNXiaouj/PWrfDxRy+SmmuQVX AhUWFO0/lkmP8JKG7R1FlYlGgsOeMB4MODlf0q3QnC4khEPlvkZayo+YSQa06jPDNbiJ diFQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533avOwER9O/lyjBIdieCgYCaKlrTQqfWNXBWCM3JD0Pte2m27IS a5vQ24ExWUm8+FXaB8mRac8Au3QiyxvC3Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxUCw6Yhk4ii7rXZlG4NjZIWlBkJAM8aX3FmGXoq909LBSKj7Hvl+yfNDWOhGiuPw5x8K83DA== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:64:: with SMTP id i4mr1221064lfo.95.1610098994272; Fri, 08 Jan 2021 01:43:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from rimwks.local ([2001:470:1f15:3d8:7285:c2ff:fe37:5722]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l3sm1824888lfd.119.2021.01.08.01.43.12 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 08 Jan 2021 01:43:13 -0800 (PST) From: Rozhuk Ivan X-Google-Original-From: Rozhuk Ivan Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 12:43:08 +0300 To: FreeBSD Current , , vladimir@kondratyev.su Subject: ld: error: undefined symbol: hid_locate Message-ID: <20210108124308.013959cd@rimwks.local> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.8 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DBypD1dCKz3NJn X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.99 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.994]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::132:from]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::132:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::132:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2021 09:43:17 -0000 Hi! Trying to build 429c7d1ab4, got: linking kernel.full ld: error: undefined symbol: hid_locate >>> referenced by uhid.c:727 (/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/uhid.c:727) >>> uhid.o:(uhid_probe) >>> referenced by uhid.c:730 (/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/uhid.c:730) >>> uhid.o:(uhid_probe) >>> referenced by ukbd.c:992 (/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/ukbd.c:992) >>> ukbd.o:(ukbd_parse_hid) >>> referenced 16 more times ld: error: undefined symbol: hid_report_size_max >>> referenced by uhid.c:835 (/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/uhid.c:835) >>> uhid.o:(uhid_attach) >>> referenced by uhid.c:838 (/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/uhid.c:838) >>> uhid.o:(uhid_attach) >>> referenced by uhid.c:841 (/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/uhid.c:841) >>> uhid.o:(uhid_attach) >>> referenced 3 more times ld: error: undefined symbol: hid_is_keyboard >>> referenced by ukbd.c:957 (/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/ukbd.c:957) >>> ukbd.o:(ukbd_probe) ld: error: undefined symbol: hid_is_mouse >>> referenced by ukbd.c:958 (/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/ukbd.c:958) >>> ukbd.o:(ukbd_probe) >>> referenced by ums.c:451 (/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/ums.c:451) >>> ums.o:(ums_probe) ld: error: undefined symbol: hid_get_data >>> referenced by ukbd.c:695 (/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/ukbd.c:695) >>> ukbd.o:(ukbd_intr_callback) >>> referenced by ukbd.c:700 (/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/ukbd.c:700) >>> ukbd.o:(ukbd_intr_callback) >>> referenced by ukbd.c:734 (/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/ukbd.c:734) >>> ukbd.o:(ukbd_intr_callback) >>> referenced 18 more times ld: error: undefined symbol: hid_get_udata >>> referenced by ukbd.c:722 (/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/ukbd.c:722) >>> ukbd.o:(ukbd_intr_callback) >>> referenced by ukbd.c:722 (/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/ukbd.c:722) >>> ukbd.o:(ukbd_intr_callback) ld: error: undefined symbol: hid_put_udata >>> referenced by ukbd.c:830 (/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/ukbd.c:830) >>> ukbd.o:(ukbd_set_leds_callback) >>> referenced by ukbd.c:821 (/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/ukbd.c:821) >>> ukbd.o:(ukbd_set_leds_callback) >>> referenced by ukbd.c:839 (/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/ukbd.c:839) >>> ukbd.o:(ukbd_set_leds_callback) --- kernel.full --- *** [kernel.full] Error code 1 make[2]: stopped in /tmp/obj.kernel/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/RIM_WKS --- all_subdir_mac_lomac --- --- all_subdir_mac_biba --- --- all_subdir_mac_bsdextended --- --- modules-all --- *** [modules-all] Error code 2 From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Fri Jan 8 11:48:56 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CE9F4C769D for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2021 11:48:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vladimir@kondratyev.su) Received: from corp.infotel.ru (corp.infotel.ru [195.170.219.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC1bC74wNz3nCV; Fri, 8 Jan 2021 11:48:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vladimir@kondratyev.su) Received: from corp (corp.infotel.ru [195.170.219.3]) by corp.infotel.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id A831B179DE3; Fri, 8 Jan 2021 14:48:52 +0300 (MSK) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at corp.infotel.ru Received: from corp.infotel.ru ([195.170.219.3]) by corp (corp.infotel.ru [195.170.219.3]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Rv4XHKhJF2tE; Fri, 8 Jan 2021 14:48:51 +0300 (MSK) Received: from mail.cicgroup.ru (unknown [195.170.219.74]) by corp.infotel.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB9E179DD4; Fri, 8 Jan 2021 14:48:51 +0300 (MSK) Received: from mail.cicgroup.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cicgroup.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4DF342211F; Fri, 8 Jan 2021 14:48:47 +0300 (MSK) Received: from mail.cicgroup.ru ([127.0.0.1]) by mail.cicgroup.ru (mail.cicgroup.ru [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with SMTP id W6NKhOf6oclq; Fri, 8 Jan 2021 14:48:45 +0300 (MSK) Received: from [192.168.0.30] (gateway [10.0.2.2]) by mail.cicgroup.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 5E69642211C; Fri, 8 Jan 2021 14:48:45 +0300 (MSK) Subject: Re: ld: error: undefined symbol: hid_locate To: Rozhuk Ivan , FreeBSD Current , hselasky@FreeBSD.org References: <20210108124308.013959cd@rimwks.local> From: Vladimir Kondratyev Message-ID: <83b06b77-1a98-2cea-1754-fe2c2ab90e63@kondratyev.su> Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 14:48:41 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20210108124308.013959cd@rimwks.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DC1bC74wNz3nCV X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2021 11:48:56 -0000 On 08.01.2021 12:43, Rozhuk Ivan wrote: > Hi! > > Trying to build 429c7d1ab4, got: > > > linking kernel.full > ld: error: undefined symbol: hid_locate >>>> referenced by uhid.c:727 (/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/uhid.c:727) >>>> uhid.o:(uhid_probe) >>>> referenced by uhid.c:730 (/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/uhid.c:730) >>>> uhid.o:(uhid_probe) >>>> referenced by ukbd.c:992 (/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/ukbd.c:992) >>>> ukbd.o:(ukbd_parse_hid) >>>> referenced 16 more times > Add "device hid" to your kernel config file. It is mentioned in 20210107 UPDATING entry. From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Fri Jan 8 20:13:14 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07A774D4CE3 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2021 20:13:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from warlock@phouka1.phouka.net) Received: from phouka1.phouka.net (phouka1.phouka.net [107.170.196.116]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "phouka.net", Issuer "Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DCDn50tqTz3C1f for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2021 20:13:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from warlock@phouka1.phouka.net) Received: from phouka1.phouka.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phouka1.phouka.net (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 108KBoB9027298 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 8 Jan 2021 12:11:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from warlock@phouka1.phouka.net) Received: (from warlock@localhost) by phouka1.phouka.net (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 108KBo8j027297; Fri, 8 Jan 2021 12:11:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from warlock) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 12:11:50 -0800 From: John Kennedy To: Toomas Soome Cc: Current FreeBSD Subject: Re: boot loader blank screen Message-ID: References: <83EB3B04-EAE8-4EC3-820B-2F5C3BADE948@me.com> <66908803-BA6F-4538-9D93-6F85A95108C9@me.com> <831788F9-F97F-4A02-A6F9-AE05219DA2E9@me.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DCDn50tqTz3C1f X-Spamd-Bar: +++ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.93 / 15.00]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[107.170.196.116:from]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[0.999]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[phouka.net]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.73)[0.731]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[107.170.196.116:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[1.000]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[me.com]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[warlock@phouka.net,warlock@phouka1.phouka.net]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; ASN(0.00)[asn:14061, ipnet:107.170.192.0/18, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[warlock@phouka.net,warlock@phouka1.phouka.net]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2021 20:13:14 -0000 On Wed, Jan 06, 2021 at 02:19:12PM -0800, John Kennedy wrote: > I saw your commit of 99870c70bac7 (loader: rewrite vidc_install_font), > 31c2bcad7e44 (loader: remove left over call to unsetenv()), and belatedly > babda0952f8355a89b3241d5e8943c7da0fa4f6b (hw.vga.textmode -> screen.textmode). > > Didn't fix the blank screen, and I thought the hw.vga.textmode workaround > had broken until I read that commit fully (will try it next reboot). > > At main-c255633-g3efe9b3e77c3 right now (also past your f1829643c476. At main-c255756-g40903394bf48, still no love for my system yet. FYI, screen.textmode=0 continued to work around the issue, as expected. 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Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 The Regents of the University of= California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 13.0-CURRENT #2 main-c255755-g6815909abda: Sat Jan=C2=A0 9 14:38:37= CET 2021 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 root@sting:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC amd6= 4 FreeBSD clang version 11.0.1 (git@github.com:llvm/llvm-project.git llvmorg-= 11.0.1-rc2-0-g43ff75f2c3f) WARNING: WITNESS option enabled, expect reduced performance. VT(vga): resolution 640x480 CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor (3411.42-MHz K8-class CPU) =C2=A0 Origin=3D"AuthenticAMD"=C2=A0 Id=3D0x100f43=C2=A0 Family=3D0x10=C2= =A0 Model=3D0x4=C2=A0 Stepping=3D3 =C2=A0 Features=3D0x178bfbff =C2=A0 Features2=3D0x802009 =C2=A0 AMD Features=3D0xee500800 =C2=A0 AMD Features2=3D0x37ff =C2=A0 SVM: NP,NRIP,NAsids=3D64 --- kernel.full ---linking kernel.full ld: error: undefined symbol: hid_is_keyboard >>> referenced by ukbd.c:957 (/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/ukbd.c:957) >>>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 ukbd.o:(ukbd_probe) ld: error: undefined symbol: hid_is_mouse >>> referenced by ukbd.c:958 (/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/ukbd.c:958) >>>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 ukbd.o:(ukbd_probe) ld: error: undefined symbol: hid_report_size_max >>> referenced by ukbd.c:988 (/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/ukbd.c:988) >>>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 ukbd.o:(ukbd_parse_hid) >>> referenced by ukbd.c:1038 (/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/ukbd.c:1038) >>>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 ukbd.o:(ukbd_parse_hid) ld: error: undefined symbol: hid_locate >>> referenced by ukbd.c:992 (/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/ukbd.c:992)>>>=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 ukbd.o:(ukbd_parse_hid) >>> referenced by ukbd.c:1001 (/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/ukbd.c:1001) >>>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 ukbd.o:(ukbd_parse_hid) >>> referenced by ukbd.c:1011 (/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/ukbd.c:1011) >>>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 ukbd.o:(ukbd_parse_hid) >>> referenced 4 more times ld: error: undefined symbol: hid_get_data >>> referenced by ukbd.c:695 (/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/ukbd.c:695) >>>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 ukbd.o:(ukbd_intr_callback) >>> referenced by ukbd.c:700 (/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/ukbd.c:700) >>>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 ukbd.o:(ukbd_intr_callback) >>> referenced by ukbd.c:734 (/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/ukbd.c:734) >>>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 ukbd.o:(ukbd_intr_callback) ld: error: undefined symbol: hid_get_udata >>> referenced by ukbd.c:722 (/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/ukbd.c:722) >>>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 ukbd.o:(ukbd_intr_callback) ld: error: undefined symbol: hid_put_udata >>> referenced by ukbd.c:830 (/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/ukbd.c:830) >>>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 ukbd.o:(ukbd_set_leds_callback) >>> referenced by ukbd.c:821 (/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/ukbd.c:821)>>>=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 ukbd.o:(ukbd_set_leds_callback) >>> referenced by ukbd.c:839 (/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/ukbd.c:839) >>>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 ukbd.o:(ukbd_set_leds_callback) *** [kernel.full] Error code 1 make[2]: stopped in /usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/STING --- modules-all --- ctfconvert -L VERSION -g cxgb_sge.o *** [modules-all] Error code 2 make[2]: stopped in /usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/STING 2 errors make[2]: stopped in /usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/STING From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sat Jan 9 14:38:20 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA924D6E00 for ; 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charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jan 09, 2021 at 02:33:58PM +0000, Filippo Moretti wrote: > I tried to compile my custom kernel but I did get the following error,I e= nclose the beginning of dmesg output.So far I could always build kernel STI= NG.I did switch to git and previously I could build it without issues.since= relyFilippo >=20 > ... > --- kernel.full ---linking kernel.full > ld: error: undefined symbol: hid_is_keyboard > >>> referenced by ukbd.c:957 (/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/ukbd.c:957) > >>>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 ukbd.o:(ukbd_probe) > ld: error: undefined symbol: hid_is_mouse > >>> referenced by ukbd.c:958 (/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/input/ukbd.c:958) > .... Looks as if you need some of these: g1-55(12.2-S)[2] tail sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC device evdev # input event device support device uinput # install /dev/uinput cdev # HID support options HID_DEBUG # enable debug msgs device hid # Generic HID support options IICHID_SAMPLING # Workaround missing GPIO INTR supp= ort #device usbhid # USB transport support. #device hidbus # HID bus (required by usbhid/iichi= d) #options USBHID_ENABLED # Prefer usbhid to other USB drivers g1-55(12.2-S)[3]=20 FWIW, I find it useful to construct my custom kernel configurations by starting with "include GENERIC", then adjust from there. Peace, david --=20 David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org "I want him to resign. I want him out. 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I'll make sure something is written up, but it should exactly > like before. > > Warner Is there a cookbook guide to converting to git from svn for people who just want to checkout source to buildworld and keep the ports tree up to date? From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sat Jan 9 15:32:28 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29DF34D85E2 for ; Sat, 9 Jan 2021 15:32:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from mx.catwhisker.org (mx.catwhisker.org [107.204.234.170]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DCkVf5KJYz3Mt5 for ; Sat, 9 Jan 2021 15:32:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from david@catwhisker.org) Received: from albert.catwhisker.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.16.1/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 109FWLPK084189; Sat, 9 Jan 2021 15:32:21 GMT (envelope-from david@albert.catwhisker.org) Received: (from david@localhost) by albert.catwhisker.org (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 109FWL91084188; Sat, 9 Jan 2021 07:32:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2021 07:32:21 -0800 From: David Wolfskill To: Frank Seltzer Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: src: continued use of Subversion for getting updates Message-ID: Reply-To: current@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: current@freebsd.org, Frank Seltzer , freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <20201222183900.GA22353@www.zefox.net> <81C07616-434E-4DF4-91AC-518AECF4F16F@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> <01b07b90-e206-aa56-aa5b-91c764ef36a4@gmail.com> <4a78a724-08d8-b9bd-1353-598b5c596078@gmail.com> <20210109102356.7745a48a@Ace.nina.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PwB3TXk5K0syycqj" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210109102356.7745a48a@Ace.nina.org> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DCkVf5KJYz3Mt5 X-Spamd-Bar: ----- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-5.40 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[current@freebsd.org]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[107.204.234.170:from]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[david]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:107.204.234.170]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; REPLYTO_DOM_NEQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[catwhisker.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[107.204.234.170:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.998]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[bellsouth.net]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7018, ipnet:107.192.0.0/12, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2021 15:32:28 -0000 --PwB3TXk5K0syycqj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jan 09, 2021 at 10:23:56AM -0500, Frank Seltzer wrote: > ... > Is there a cookbook guide to converting to git from svn for people who ju= st > want to checkout source to buildworld and keep the ports tree up to date? > .... While it is not a cookbook, I wrote up what I do at https://www.catwhisker.org/~david/FreeBSD/repo-sync.html Note that since 19 December, I switched from svn to git for sources, but ports remains on svn (until March, IIRC). Also, I have some (perceived) requirements that are unlikely to be especially common; that said, I believe that it's easy enough to just "not do" certain things. Peace, david --=20 David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org "I want him to resign. I want him out. 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I'll make sure something is written up, but it should exactly >> like before. >> >> Warner > > Is there a cookbook guide to converting to git from svn for people who just > want to checkout source to buildworld and keep the ports tree up to date? I just do this assuming /usr/src is empty already: # cd /usr # git clone https://git.FreeBSD.org/src.git # cd /usr/src # git config pull.ff=only Before each build: # git pull # make -j 8 buildworld >& /root/builds/world/`git rev-parse --short HEAD` # make -j 8 buildkernel ... # reboot ... # cd /usr/src # make installworld # mergemaster -iFU /* need to start using an alt method for this */ # reboot works for me (tm) Dan From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sat Jan 9 18:46:12 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 533384DF756 for ; Sat, 9 Jan 2021 18:46:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grahamperrin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x434.google.com (mail-wr1-x434.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::434]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DCppC3Nn2z3rcG for ; Sat, 9 Jan 2021 18:46:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grahamperrin@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x434.google.com with SMTP id a12so12126059wrv.8 for ; Sat, 09 Jan 2021 10:46:11 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=BX00p8ZMdo2M1CFPzZgQpZs4oUdkW4VrmKk8oEUh92I=; b=dor7s0Ch4lTNQFkoXL8mP/BSgZm0wX1el1jyuUh/UO+U5wf6YTvrpL64A0ewybBguv QXRPqKT/hM09B1lBXTqZEMPQK9tIe9VEwxGnpEAq63kjqWaJSUuLTTzCOPw20Q1I6Qds SaLG+qU8aTnQ0ZAPapDm/ZGVyqM9HfiqGxL1Zm6wHOLbwAdf5NI3rGjwNMNOGbhL4NQX JQDuLUsZLWyK8fyp7LqwoGeTFdar/7x03/Hyaniae/WOB3pqeCWs7K1cB758zG2+hPNE naKlyb/2Jp/lmOu+hQpqRu82OtnPur9YpRupqIhqqY4wjSYqhY8jhHIXWy2HzM3w7cfG AMKQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531jNwEAZ0UYIRXp5iAXoDKPWXwigiejkwk0PJDyZPaVon1GmWa1 5Fdr/rjTqBxN+KcrWRedPzdzfOd6nByS+w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxnkQ121knZ3rhnXHpKe1MUg+vjt6e63P12lI+iMcjnu6uulytGY1MzyyiNyVJ1MwK9iKKwxA== X-Received: by 2002:adf:f845:: with SMTP id d5mr9036956wrq.182.1610217969436; Sat, 09 Jan 2021 10:46:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (88-105-96-80.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com. [88.105.96.80]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a12sm19348272wrh.71.2021.01.09.10.46.08 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 09 Jan 2021 10:46:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: guide to converting to git from svn for people who just want to checkout source to buildworld and keep the ports tree up to date To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <20201222183900.GA22353@www.zefox.net> <81C07616-434E-4DF4-91AC-518AECF4F16F@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> <01b07b90-e206-aa56-aa5b-91c764ef36a4@gmail.com> <4a78a724-08d8-b9bd-1353-598b5c596078@gmail.com> <20210109102356.7745a48a@Ace.nina.org> From: Graham Perrin Message-ID: <3a1603f6-af3f-14b8-0d6c-3b6f4fb04edc@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2021 18:46:08 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20210109102356.7745a48a@Ace.nina.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-GB X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DCppC3Nn2z3rcG X-Spamd-Bar: - X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[88.105.96.80:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::434:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::434:from:127.0.2.255]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[1.000]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::434:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2021 18:46:12 -0000 On 09/01/2021 15:23, Frank Seltzer wrote: > Re: src: continued use of Subversion for getting updates > Is there a cookbook guide to converting to git from svn for people who > just want to checkout source to buildworld and keep the ports tree up > to date? I can't call it a cookbook but my routine is at