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From: Ben RUBSON In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 31 May 2021 11:26:03 +0200 Cc: Sreekanth Reddy , Kashyap Desai Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <3FA08344-3B0A-4564-BD42-090EEA83BCD6@gmx.com> To: scsi@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.100.0.2.22) X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:f3gEC/o15h1/bq4HaXO3+hO7bR+c8U/Vs+WpduFrorkHkJ1bv+Z r4hedV/Ld0nbGHkEsJq/oHblUA59g7w8oU46fkdEDkhiqAD91Em9Zihifz9p/Wz/u63KgsY jeWiRpgat52ogqhvsXYmLicTJox35KOx6G1dkpVWEi2hdy5fYI3p8O7dHHVqHywewPfbVbp uQCDsdoRc3LMMZJSfLVQg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:9KUbiPVyRlk=:ZfuwYBeG1zEVt/F5rJN/oE lrlecwtdJ11V1MYttRJksBrLfSj/Uu1WiwUfMPt4NRn59I32ASl2XvGuzEoB9LJEIz/ghD2Ne UrSsWBNrVyAsYPdzARurvdWG4BCr1YXybKNRS92qzHac7wFXXnIfGJRf5N1P7m5yvpOp+qv/s dJ5bjz4UMDM8GmG+YxcZSLljBTsBWNjZc3it1XJQms4V53eFpqm/f3dXYJ50jHRw3BrSaLxE6 kIvsH4KtCiGOISMGU3wUbjALBBc85Arl5RjsQU9gXb6aRjQtDFnb1A7TrrIFbnNApXiHFUFfN r/99TD7zEQBX41xG/Ty+5UuNU0mLIZAcynHDVqb1qCHRiiY4OtAPLX8FQR20XGDi7FGcPIlYs twfNQ4Xb5QfU5xLYXLMz0H4UAbadHux7A915XDgzg5mDwzx3pJ76iF72GJcnU39AocbOZNt4t ANL3H5Ecqz9ips3flxYc39m/toFirFryh4GoBw1HeAD0Ckfxa3o2NpqDhHJGwUGNaIVdqbxK5 FlhGum1QfYvx6lxLZhHFAJjzWOO0Yf0x4/Z4XVy62tloNkRQPtovQEuIbMr+FvQqP1kxiPzbg eceFTk1GF6VPZZjphxPKuQqxoNlaMiaRWqqWfbL8bebFSuMQHIOQQi7zy4hwiL1Nb3VozFfGb ztBKoaebXVtd90EMuxRY4JYCSdcVzB5769YPsMOw2McUTsmlLroJjyQ6KfjYMe/igenxmpPBd caP4XpTd+WkMFEnGw1bDAIFKlE/3ElKksCdbv72S/LKHykrbZmeZivgrNHFH6tLL6EKId+RL1 Hzyc+bRPFFw5Sa19ijt2qBmSWxIUDIUeyhfL3GeOASMzDtSsVf+MFkcBKERrlsFy55PHyLbX8 IzriEqfZA8PNSWlpLumQXP46MTsVhgDbzzWJ3dyZNX6FBrLeiR1FHXsgOJevHXCMHctiaUQ6k ctxAL4a+hZWH1bnkGxYVC0nlzyT/0FuoCWJiPT9O764juKYIVLWmaaVInfslNAOCu0TkS/NED HHct+JbzR8ieQOaCM7eaG5VwruraWLc51eXdfWANhTAnyPzW1z3RoKudTNPBm61JuUUT/ZiIE GAaUH8LIZ+10tJvq7+HKtEblrqJMWIyQE6iH2GBF7zA/g0FWBPeQNB+Jr0yUvlDQ3cRlac81G DGpMqo+vsSCUv1k2FUyVSbRHoX8JAbPPm/awOEdfby8WnvxetTKBJ20vnr0e2IC71/v28= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FtqfS0wNNz4TWH X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmx.net header.s=badeba3b8450 header.b=EIBdornu; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmx.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ben.rubson@gmx.com designates 212.227.17.21 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ben.rubson@gmx.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.50 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmx.com]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[212.227.17.21:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:212.227.17.0/27]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmx.net:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmx.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmx.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[212.227.17.21:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmx.net:s=badeba3b8450]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[212.227.17.21:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[212.227.17.21:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[scsi] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N > On 28 May 2021, at 14:47, Gary Palmer wrote: >=20 > On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 07:34:53AM +0200, Ben RUBSON wrote: >> Hi, >>=20 >> Looking to buy SuperMicro SSG-540P-E1CTR36L, bringing a SAS3808 based = PCI-E 4.0 adapter. >>=20 >> Everyone knows SAS2008 (PCI-E 2.0) and SAS3008 (PCI-E 3.0) as widely = advised when working with ZFS. >>=20 >> But what about SAS 3808 ? I did not find much experience sharing, = especially about its FreeBSD support, and ZFS compatibility level. >> As SAS3808 has twice the PCI bus bandwidth as the SAS3008, could be = useful with large JBODs. >>=20 >> Thank you very much ! >>=20 >> Kind regards, >>=20 >> Ben >>=20 >> //already posted at fs@, but scsi@ is certainly more relevant here, = sorry for double post >=20 > I don't see any driver for FreeBSD on the "HBA 9500-8i Tri-Mode = Storage > Adapter" page on broadcom.com, which is a 3808 based card. "mpr" man > page in FreeBSD 12 doesn't mention support, neither does FreeBSD 13 > but there is some code in the driver for the 3816. Not sure why 3816 > is mentioned but not 3808. >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Gary Hi Gary, Many thanks for your inputs and feedback. There's at least a FreeBSD download available for this HBA, the STORCLI = utility, but no driver. However the specifications, as well as the product brief PDF file, = mention FreeBSD support... CC'ing Sreekanth & Kashyap from Broadcom, feel free if you have any info = ! Trying to decide whether or not I build my whole new 3-nodes storage = infrastructure upon these PCI-E 4.0 adapters, or if I go with the = already widely approved SAS3008... Thank you again ! Kind regards, Ben From nobody Fri Jun 4 06:03:29 2021 X-Original-To: scsi@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 584291378F78 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2021 06:03:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sreekanth.reddy@broadcom.com) Received: from mail-oi1-x22a.google.com (mail-oi1-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::22a]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FxBz25TMVz3vty for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2021 06:03:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sreekanth.reddy@broadcom.com) Received: by mail-oi1-x22a.google.com with SMTP id a21so8765265oiw.3 for ; Thu, 03 Jun 2021 23:03:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=broadcom.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Qdztz/VcZ0Fow5ykeAsSgU0gvscc2xH0izo2JNQ3bPc=; b=Xl658w8ut/ha0ZAyj9Sa8ashZ6hOnB6KfGJF2la5bJKi4Q8s1rgNcZ74bUEElTRX9Q esn/u62Wr7LXYnUXKVcZpOhG/I/BdsetZwxvra11StD3kUdRWJxrZnmcj5f4z+ehKQxM ZhbzKQKfrYxmBV2iDlnWA0XG6iRsKzdqkMMuI= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Qdztz/VcZ0Fow5ykeAsSgU0gvscc2xH0izo2JNQ3bPc=; b=DiGSH4CrmQYctDQ1JIdTO2nVUnmCQpFiTaaOxmMGaOTUvjIR7/21k3X8K1uNxdcJEa jb7NACQsqdH5/LS5K6Zd+0qRaH+/zDTNThQTitB34mYpbyQ1nJCPOG8ZxnLmFSkZFPTg Ct5BqPrRe05WPzhoZGtYeC96d6KzPrSaN+kNWt266tH64IW7L6mAwjVIHyn2sm7g4cpv fuVzZRt+gW3E89u9m9s+ktdh1hrz8cK0Em3A3VQR7SoaNHXtqLoPNuUgpVNU7/3IYYnL ufMhqVymvjT6myTa8umXUrY9oUFiv/GiDvgImPTWrcoBoMJsk6Mqqk7n4pza9OBeiqtH 1tZw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5332g1bdqvkRngvHb5eZYNi4ipOCZ8G37jqjOyjY8S9fTX6o5sax 5QjtBT2urGTahOWNVt77u3bjMnLwMuHrNnWT0yjV+g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyR3BgnBPTK0fiAzZ/1N0ZkTcQeGe83kmZHuNfJvuRf48AqTGDOwR9n55yACDpYgD6uvXXW2+KJg/CDfADdBys= X-Received: by 2002:aca:bac2:: with SMTP id k185mr10448423oif.90.1622786621366; Thu, 03 Jun 2021 23:03:41 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: SCSI subsystem List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-scsi List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3FA08344-3B0A-4564-BD42-090EEA83BCD6@gmx.com> In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 11:33:29 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: SAS3808 PCI-E 4.0, FreeBSD / ZFS support ? To: Ben RUBSON Cc: scsi@freebsd.org, Kashyap Desai Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="00000000000023a2e505c3ea74fd" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FxBz25TMVz3vty X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=broadcom.com header.s=google header.b=Xl658w8u; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=broadcom.com; spf=softfail (mx1.freebsd.org: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::22a is neither permitted nor denied by domain of sreekanth.reddy@broadcom.com) smtp.mailfrom=sreekanth.reddy@broadcom.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.52 / 15.00]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; HAS_ATTACHMENT(0.00)[]; R_SPF_SOFTFAIL(0.00)[~all]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[broadcom.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(0.00)[broadcom.com,quarantine]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW_WITH_FAILURES(-0.50)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmx.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::22a:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:+,3:~,4:~]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[broadcom.com:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.38)[0.375]; SIGNED_SMIME(-2.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[scsi@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::22a:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::22a:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[scsi] Reply-To: sreekanth.reddy@broadcom.com From: Sreekanth Reddy via scsi X-Original-From: Sreekanth Reddy X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: Y --00000000000023a2e505c3ea74fd Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000001d27b505c3ea7463" --0000000000001d27b505c3ea7463 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Ben, SAS3808 & SAS3816 HBA cards supported through mpr driver. Broadcom supports FreeBSD OS driver (i.e. mpr) only through inbox driver and hence users won't be able to find the out-of-box driver (that we used to provide earlier) in the Broadcom's download site. Thanks, Sreekanth On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 2:56 PM Ben RUBSON wrote: > > On 28 May 2021, at 14:47, Gary Palmer wrote: > > > > On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 07:34:53AM +0200, Ben RUBSON wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> Looking to buy SuperMicro SSG-540P-E1CTR36L, bringing a SAS3808 based > PCI-E 4.0 adapter. > >> > >> Everyone knows SAS2008 (PCI-E 2.0) and SAS3008 (PCI-E 3.0) as widely > advised when working with ZFS. > >> > >> But what about SAS 3808 ? I did not find much experience sharing, > especially about its FreeBSD support, and ZFS compatibility level. > >> As SAS3808 has twice the PCI bus bandwidth as the SAS3008, could be > useful with large JBODs. > >> > >> Thank you very much ! > >> > >> Kind regards, > >> > >> Ben > >> > >> //already posted at fs@, but scsi@ is certainly more relevant here, > sorry for double post > > > > I don't see any driver for FreeBSD on the "HBA 9500-8i Tri-Mode Storage > > Adapter" page on broadcom.com, which is a 3808 based card. "mpr" man > > page in FreeBSD 12 doesn't mention support, neither does FreeBSD 13 > > but there is some code in the driver for the 3816. Not sure why 3816 > > is mentioned but not 3808. > > > > Regards, > > > > Gary > > Hi Gary, > > Many thanks for your inputs and feedback. > There's at least a FreeBSD download available for this HBA, the STORCLI > utility, but no driver. > However the specifications, as well as the product brief PDF file, mention > FreeBSD support... > > CC'ing Sreekanth & Kashyap from Broadcom, feel free if you have any info ! > > Trying to decide whether or not I build my whole new 3-nodes storage > infrastructure upon these PCI-E 4.0 adapters, or if I go with the already > widely approved SAS3008... > > Thank you again ! > > Kind regards, > > Ben > > --0000000000001d27b505c3ea7463-- --00000000000023a2e505c3ea74fd Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature MIIQdgYJKoZIhvcNAQcCoIIQZzCCEGMCAQExDzANBglghkgBZQMEAgEFADALBgkqhkiG9w0BBwGg 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(Nemesis) id 1MY68d-1ls1TZ1Po5-00YTSh; Fri, 04 Jun 2021 10:45:36 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Id: SCSI subsystem List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-scsi List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.100.0.2.22\)) Subject: Re: SAS3808 PCI-E 4.0, FreeBSD / ZFS support ? From: Ben RUBSON In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 10:45:35 +0200 Cc: Kashyap Desai Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <3FA08344-3B0A-4564-BD42-090EEA83BCD6@gmx.com> To: Sreekanth Reddy , scsi@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.100.0.2.22) X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:ryP4KwpFG1IfDkh4qFUBMuo9V+v4OCtZPmlt4bfPfTeOARs5cfc N3dTcKy1qkjQATKZhVNUbEgxe+TMF5F+bMgQigydmgyn2S3hbQiyHxJxXt9PaWP0Tpam0D5 DiMLq1K/Via5IAbrhc+egxHsXUyPTYqoJSra9bfXM7ohQnz7pLjXs3vljWqVKFcneDP2hDF v4ZI/kb+79So06ZKdb4cA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:RdttS9I8CJM=:7j2thVAyRh84maTf7cZ1Zx 98rl/sGKQXoriZditpgT0YOc9m8SWUcvdVsafsHkaisFZeaLoXBOzkMHeydLDwDjxuoMTILL0 osxb3NSHUxr1SATPoHEFwXF/trZWrbIy3uheuS4blyezRioQg6kxEUAJvG+9V9LLWVgdJrUxG Z7PmDLpS22AbWPuUtlbM0KJPYz/+nkmpcf9ABqAinZJf9haVcK3wNMBK78RC2dU002v2+8545 jJNrrSls9Mw7jqAt5/9OVA4s4cwaOpoo9ya/QskmaP6Udkhxt9ge2Y79+XE+DUsvW6OAf8Vfv Pu/mMFj66yoRJUSJO9vGYe4dViLmawz8Vo2PRGbHC3BPYsA7R4ec1wNjQmoMbWK/Khhq0B+pg c958DYVux/Pa7YXJwisdRr8qnemHmeF5yxAnKHi+P398T1JsQoel9ECa9L8gVA5HrOiWvE9H4 XD5z6h2qJV0rLw+hGX6R4kOAnE2HVwQu5j/5HtIUBZBNN8iXqIFf8kMd+PXxfejdTsnZQGelr WyIOQ1AKI1RPhj+VWGXnDJ/WLlN94/BEdoxyeOC5UvAcZoWypftNdqkuPEZbs/1PBUTMf0Ssi voG6fDC0lltF0Mq0LmezqicX9rD29SvP4v2uVw1DW00ows/tteYmgKTI2x4FDgEDA7rdMuo4B bhIA65Kp3AOTu+OshzvE6Rss3Z5Fo8q/YIl9ttdSLaZche2M7VGb8cCo9vB2m5rsod73wvc9Z 9ROQNxMTEhcqhfSl+L3s/22Rklvp/2+sN42teQZFCGB7C0OIDPo2BZrI0C46+1rJQ4kztG9/U C0QrguTLJPOqJ890o3/Qz04l9lI6GY3iB7sVbo/wr7L0jTKX0A7z6z6piHW4PBhQo4PU/dBnk ZKaNTdhYXanTLnBRtkI21cd/tZQqpTKnffpnmg/GewN/CcmSNTiKvqYfvDvY9Hb82hU4v3V3H WHCfLeAYYN44g1YcQVCmAU4LcbfqSgQzkwv+PUpBa9iVh6AyQLkhN0/VzTjiywJpz9xcwwk7y E7A9ihXG0JIEEpgjqaLJnusMsO22nZ9YINoHX2sektM0pZHI4sRGL+7MU4ToQPE/K3ig5LclB r/TCUP1kdoOXCf1RgKYG6Z6/Xq4v0HAFMa7 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FxGYv3tJ6z4bsb X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Hi Sreekanth, Glad to hear from you, pretty good news, many thanks ! Do you have any feedback regarding SAS3808/SAS3816 reliability with = FreeBSD ? Especially compared to the widely approved (let's say now in some kind = "bug-free") SAS2008/SAS3008. I think we're still scared about strange bugs which could corrupt data, = silent corruptions or anything like that... Thank you again for your support, Kind regards, Ben > On 4 Jun 2021, at 08:03, Sreekanth Reddy = wrote: >=20 > Hi Ben, >=20 > SAS3808 & SAS3816 HBA cards supported through mpr driver. Broadcom = supports FreeBSD OS driver (i.e. mpr) only through inbox driver and = hence users won't be able to find the out-of-box driver (that we used to = provide earlier) in the Broadcom's download site.=20 >=20 > Thanks, > Sreekanth >=20 > On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 2:56 PM Ben RUBSON wrote: > > On 28 May 2021, at 14:47, Gary Palmer wrote: > >=20 > > On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 07:34:53AM +0200, Ben RUBSON wrote: > >> Hi, > >>=20 > >> Looking to buy SuperMicro SSG-540P-E1CTR36L, bringing a SAS3808 = based PCI-E 4.0 adapter. > >>=20 > >> Everyone knows SAS2008 (PCI-E 2.0) and SAS3008 (PCI-E 3.0) as = widely advised when working with ZFS. > >>=20 > >> But what about SAS 3808 ? I did not find much experience sharing, = especially about its FreeBSD support, and ZFS compatibility level. > >> As SAS3808 has twice the PCI bus bandwidth as the SAS3008, could be = useful with large JBODs. > >>=20 > >> Thank you very much ! > >>=20 > >> Kind regards, > >>=20 > >> Ben > >>=20 > >> //already posted at fs@, but scsi@ is certainly more relevant here, = sorry for double post > >=20 > > I don't see any driver for FreeBSD on the "HBA 9500-8i Tri-Mode = Storage > > Adapter" page on broadcom.com, which is a 3808 based card. "mpr" = man > > page in FreeBSD 12 doesn't mention support, neither does FreeBSD 13 > > but there is some code in the driver for the 3816. Not sure why = 3816 > > is mentioned but not 3808. > >=20 > > Regards, > >=20 > > Gary >=20 > Hi Gary, >=20 > Many thanks for your inputs and feedback. > There's at least a FreeBSD download available for this HBA, the = STORCLI utility, but no driver. > However the specifications, as well as the product brief PDF file, = mention FreeBSD support... >=20 > CC'ing Sreekanth & Kashyap from Broadcom, feel free if you have any = info ! >=20 > Trying to decide whether or not I build my whole new 3-nodes storage = infrastructure upon these PCI-E 4.0 adapters, or if I go with the = already widely approved SAS3008... >=20 > Thank you again ! >=20 > Kind regards, >=20 > Ben >=20 From nobody Sat Jun 5 20:41:47 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-scsi@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3383D160EEE3 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 2021 20:41:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from webmail5.jnielsen.net (webmail5.jnielsen.net [69.87.218.172]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.freebsdsolutions.net", Issuer "freebsdsolutions.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FyBPy1ddpz3tbt; Sat, 5 Jun 2021 20:41:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) Received: from [10.3.101.141] (50-207-240-162-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.207.240.162]) (authenticated bits=0) by webmail5.jnielsen.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 155Kfmkn099402 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 5 Jun 2021 14:41:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from lists@jnielsen.net) X-Authentication-Warning: webmail5.jnielsen.net: Host 50-207-240-162-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.207.240.162] claimed to be [10.3.101.141] From: John Nielsen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List-Id: SCSI subsystem List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-scsi List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.60.0.2.21\)) Subject: The future of the isboot (iBFT / iSCSI boot) module Message-Id: Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2021 14:41:47 -0600 Cc: "trasz@freebsd.org" To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.60.0.2.21) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FyBPy1ddpz3tbt X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of lists@jnielsen.net designates 69.87.218.172 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=lists@jnielsen.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.80 / 15.00]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[69.87.218.172:from]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[69.87.218.172:from:127.0.2.255]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[jnielsen.net]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.997]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6364, ipnet:69.87.218.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-scsi] X-Spam: Yes X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Hi all- TL;DR=E2=80=94do we want to bring iSCSI boot support in to the base = system and if so, how? I=E2=80=99ve been maintaining (badly, at least until recently) the = net/isboot-kmod port which contains Daisuke Aoyama=E2=80=99s isboot = module. The kernel module allows a system to be booted completely via = iSCSI (no switching root, etc) from systems or NICs with native iSCSI = BIOS support or via iPXE and friends. The BIOS (or iPXE) acts as an = initiator and connects to a previously-configured target volume. Boot = (legacy or UEFI) continues normally from there=E2=80=94FreeBSD=E2=80=99s = loader can load and start the kernel, etc. What=E2=80=99s missing in the = base system is something to re-establish the iSCSI session between when = the kernel starts execution and when it tries to mount the root = filesystem. That=E2=80=99s where isboot comes in. Assuming the module is loaded at = boot, it will interpret the data structures in the mostly-standard iSCSI = Boot Firmware Table (iBFT) and use that information to identify the = correct NIC, bring it up, assign an IP address and gateway (if = provided), and establish an iSCSI session with the target. Once that is = done the volume is presented as a SCSI device using the CAM subsystem = and boot proceeds normally. The module has been around for some time (I want to say since FreeBSD = 7). I believe it was developed in tandem or for use with the net/istgt = port. I don=E2=80=99t know if it pre-dates Danny Branniss=E2=80=99 = iscsi_initiator work in base but it definitely pre-dates the = iscsid/iscsictl and ctld in base now. Upstream development on isboot has = stopped from what I can tell and the port was broken for quite some = time. I created a GitHub repo for the project and recently (with help = from several others) I updated the port to 0.2.14, which should work = with FreeBSD 1[1234]. I=E2=80=99ve made a couple more improvements and a = 0.2.15 release isn=E2=80=99t far off. See the project here if = interested: https://github.com/jnielsendotnet/isboot . I=E2=80=99m happy to maintain the port out of tree for the foreseeable = future but I think ideally this functionality should be brought in to = the base system. =46rom what I can tell the port has its own complete = iSCSI initiator implementation, and does not use what is now in = sys/dev/iscsi. That should probably change (and is a longer-term goal of = mine, though I will likely need help), but for now what approach makes = the most sense? 1) Leave it out of tree as an independent port. Pros: easy in the short term (nothing more to do) Cons: less visible to potential users, likely to suffer from bit = rot, duplicate initiator code 2) Bring it in base but keep it separate from sys/dev/iscsi. Pros: also very easy (I=E2=80=99ve done a proof of concept to = support modules/isboot and =E2=80=9Cdevice isboot=E2=80=9D in kernel), = higher visibility, allows module to be added directly to kernel, some = defense against bit rot Cons: duplicate initiator code 3) Bring it in base, but make it depend on the sys/dev/iscsi code. Pros: most of the above, no duplicate initiator code Cons: more effort, slightly out of my depth 4) Bring it in base and merge it with sys/dev/iscsi. Pros: just one module to configure / load / worry about. Could = easily control isboot functionality via loader tunable. Makes it more of = a first class citizen. Cons: more effort again, probably requires broader = ownership/buy-in. What does the list think? Any objections or considerations I=E2=80=99m = not aware of? Any sponsorship volunteers? Thanks, JN From nobody Sun Jun 6 21:00:43 2021 X-Original-To: scsi@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C17013C9461 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2021 21:00:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Fypn816Llz4RV3 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2021 21:00:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F14FF2519 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2021 21:00:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 156L0h1d046555 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2021 21:00:43 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from bugzilla@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 156L0hZT046554 for scsi@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 6 Jun 2021 21:00:43 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <202106062100.156L0hZT046554@kenobi.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: bugzilla set sender to bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@FreeBSD.org To: scsi@FreeBSD.org Subject: Problem reports for scsi@FreeBSD.org that need special attention Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2021 21:00:43 +0000 List-Id: SCSI subsystem List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-scsi List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="16230132433.b637.45441" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: Y --16230132433.b637.45441 Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2021 21:00:43 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" To view an individual PR, use: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=(Bug Id). The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users, which need special attention. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Status | Bug Id | Description ------------+-----------+--------------------------------------------------- Open | 221952 | cam iosched: Fix trim statistics 1 problems total for which you should take action. --16230132433.b637.45441--