From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 6 00:20:54 1995 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id AAA13244 for doc-outgoing; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 00:20:54 -0800 Received: from ccslinux.dlsu.edu.ph (root@linux1.dlsu.edu.ph [165.220.8.15]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id AAA13236 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 00:20:45 -0800 From: gavin@linux1.dlsu.edu.ph Received: by ccslinux.dlsu.edu.ph (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #13) Sender: owner-doc@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk id m0tCMa0-000A5RC; Mon, 6 Nov 95 16:06 GMT+0800 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Nov 95 16:06 GMT+0800 To: doc@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2.2 Personal_Name: Gavin Lim Subject: /proc filesystem I think the /proc filesystem would be very helpful to programmers, especially for debugging. Is there any documentation for /proc file formats, or how to program it? From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 6 03:39:13 1995 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA21932 for doc-outgoing; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 03:39:13 -0800 Received: from inet-smtp-gw-1.us.oracle.com (inet-smtp-gw-1.us.oracle.com [192.86.155.81]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA21927 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 03:39:09 -0800 Received: from iesun1.ie.oracle.com by inet-smtp-gw-1.us.oracle.com with SMTP (8.6.12/37.7) id DAA00142; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 03:38:59 -0800 Received: from iesu63.iesun1 (iesu63.ie.oracle.com) by iesun1.ie.oracle.com (4.1/37.3.TJL.1.84) id AA24431; Mon, 6 Nov 95 11:37:52 GMT Received: from iesu63 (localhost) by iesu63.iesun1 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00183; Mon, 6 Nov 95 11:37:45 GMT Message-Id: <9511061137.AA00183@iesu63.iesun1> Date: Mon, 06 Nov 95 11:37:50 0000 From: Henry Chung Organization: Oracle Corporation European Porting Centre X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.3_U1 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Handbook X-Url: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook.html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-doc@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, How do I get a soft-copy/copy of the FreeBSD Handbook? Please reply to my e-mail address (see below), I am not on any of the FreeBSD's mailing list. Thanks a million. -- Regards, -- Henry Hyen-Vui Chung ================================================================================ ICL Product Line Developer | Oracle Corporation European Porting Centre | Maretimo Court, Temple Road e-mail: hchung@ie.oracle.com | Blackrock, Co. Dublin Tel : 353 1 2834700 ext 220 | Republic of Ireland Fax : 353 1 2834732 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 6 09:13:16 1995 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id JAA02916 for doc-outgoing; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:13:16 -0800 Received: from eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (eikon.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de [129.187.42.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA02838 ; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:11:17 -0800 Received: from vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de [129.187.142.36]) by eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA19414; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 18:09:46 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA02575; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 10:12:27 +0100 Message-Id: <199511060912.KAA02575@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> X-Authentication-Warning: vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: gclarkii@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Printing the Handbook Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" X-Organisation: Vector Systems Ltd, Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany X-Occupation: Internet Unix C & Systems Engineering Consultant X-Phone: +49 89 268616 Fax: +49 89 2608126 Timezone: GMT+1 X-Web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 31 Oct 1995 14:18:35 PST." <199510312218.OAA27986@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 06 Nov 1995 10:12:26 +0100 From: "Julian H. Stacey" Sender: owner-doc@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk [ repeat transmission after bounce ] > From: Gary Clark II > If no one disagrees > I would be willing to donate/pay %25 of my net profits to FreeBSD Inc. more > if there are many copies sold. Hi Gary, I'm afraid I don't like the sound of this. if it's in the src/ tree, it's FreeBSD, & FreeBSD isn't for sale :-) We can use src/* without the headache of royalty payments to anyone, anything more restrictive gets tossed in ports. ... or have I misunderstood you ? Julian S. From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 6 15:34:35 1995 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA19407 for doc-outgoing; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 15:34:35 -0800 Received: from chemserv.umd.edu (chemserv.umd.edu [129.2.64.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA19402 ; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 15:34:30 -0800 Received: from espresso.eng.umd.edu (espresso.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.13]) by chemserv.umd.edu (8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id SAA26211; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 18:34:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by espresso.eng.umd.edu (8.7/8.6.4) id SAA10823; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 18:34:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 18:34:23 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@espresso.eng.umd.edu To: "Julian H. Stacey" cc: gclarkii@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Printing the Handbook In-Reply-To: <199511060912.KAA02575@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-doc@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 6 Nov 1995, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > [ repeat transmission after bounce ] > > > From: Gary Clark II > > > If no one disagrees > > I would be willing to donate/pay %25 of my net profits to FreeBSD Inc. more > > if there are many copies sold. > > Hi Gary, > I'm afraid I don't like the sound of this. > if it's in the src/ tree, it's FreeBSD, > & FreeBSD isn't for sale :-) > We can use src/* without the headache of royalty payments to anyone, > anything more restrictive gets tossed in ports. Walnut Creek sells FreeBSD. I think there might be a case made for this, but I would guess discussion is called for. I'd _want_ the handbook published, and no one will do it for free. I want the CDROM pressed, too, what's the key difference you see? I don't pretend to be a lawyer, comment on this. > > ... or have I misunderstood you ? > > Julian S. > ========================================================================== Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu, I run FreeBSD-current on n3lxx + Journey2 Here's OJ's internet address in hex code: 00 2F 2F 2F 2F 5C 7F 2D 0D 15 1B 19 24 24 24 18 If you can't recall the translation, here it is: null character, slash, slash, slash, slash, backslash, rubout, dash, carriage return, negative acknowledgement, escape, end of media, dollar sign, dollar sign, dollar sign, cancel From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 6 18:48:01 1995 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA29448 for doc-outgoing; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 18:48:01 -0800 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA29440 ; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 18:47:57 -0800 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id CAA02560; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 02:42:19 GMT From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199511070242.CAA02560@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Printing the Handbook To: jhs@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 02:42:18 +0000 () Cc: gclarkii@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199511060912.KAA02575@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> from "Julian H. Stacey" at Nov 6, 95 10:12:26 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1126 Sender: owner-doc@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Julian H. Stacey stands accused of saying: > > From: Gary Clark II > > > If no one disagrees > > I would be willing to donate/pay %25 of my net profits to FreeBSD Inc. more > > if there are many copies sold. > > Hi Gary, > I'm afraid I don't like the sound of this. > if it's in the src/ tree, it's FreeBSD, & FreeBSD isn't for sale :-) > We can use src/* without the headache of royalty payments to anyone, > anything more restrictive gets tossed in ports. > > ... or have I misunderstood you ? I think you should go and read the Berkeley license again, Julian. Gary can do whatever he likes with it, as long as he gives due credit. On _TOP_ of this, he's offering 25% of his profits. I call that _damn_ generous. > Julian S. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 7 02:50:35 1995 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id CAA13517 for doc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 02:50:35 -0800 Received: (from gclarkii@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id CAA13508 for freebsd-doc; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 02:50:30 -0800 From: Gary Clark II Message-Id: <199511071050.CAA13508@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Printing the Handbook To: freebsd-doc Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 02:50:27 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1121 Sender: owner-doc@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello I do not understand what Julian S. was trying to say.:( I was offering to donate a percentage of my profits as a way of saying thankyou to one and all for the great OS. I was not saying that I ``HAD'' to do so, someone please correct me if I wrong here. Here is the way I got what will be offered. Combine the handbook and FAQ into one document, add my ``Tips & Tricks'', generate the latex document, go through and correct all the incorrect refs(I belive the html handling broke this, all I get are numbers and not titles.). Correct any other errors I saw (These will donated back along with the Tip & Trick section if others want it). Have 100 copies printed up and bind them in 3 ring binders. Thats it. I'm in the final proofing now. Deskjet 540s' are not the worlds fastest printers:) Gary P.S. Can someone explain what was said?? -- Gary Clark II (N5VMF) | FreeBSD support and service gclarkii@FreeBSD.ORG | mail info@gbdata.com for information FreeBSD FAQ at ftp.FreeBSD.ORG in ~pub/FreeBSD/docs/freebsd-faq.ascii From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 7 12:58:12 1995 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id MAA03482 for doc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 12:58:12 -0800 Received: from smtp.munet.edu (smtp.munet.edu [198.109.72.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA03467 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 12:58:06 -0800 From: CFOX@smtp.munet.edu Received: from MADONNA-Message_Server by smtp.munet.edu with WordPerfect_Office; Tue, 07 Nov 1995 15:59:29 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: WordPerfect Office 4.0 Date: Tue, 07 Nov 1995 15:59:23 -0500 To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: unsubscribe Sender: owner-doc@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Please remove me from the list From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 7 13:48:08 1995 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA05267 for doc-outgoing; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 13:48:08 -0800 Received: from chemserv.umd.edu (chemserv.umd.edu [129.2.64.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA05260 ; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 13:47:59 -0800 Received: from mocha.eng.umd.edu (mocha.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.16]) by chemserv.umd.edu (8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id QAA11888; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 16:47:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by mocha.eng.umd.edu (8.7/8.6.4) id QAA11519; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 16:47:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 16:47:53 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@mocha.eng.umd.edu To: Gary Clark II cc: freebsd-doc@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Printing the Handbook In-Reply-To: <199511071050.CAA13508@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-doc@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 7 Nov 1995, Gary Clark II wrote: > Hello > > I do not understand what Julian S. was trying to say.:( > I was offering to donate a percentage of my profits as a way of saying > thankyou to one and all for the great OS. I was not saying that I > ``HAD'' to do so, someone please correct me if I wrong here. > > Here is the way I got what will be offered. Combine the handbook and FAQ > into one document, add my ``Tips & Tricks'', generate the latex document, > go through and correct all the incorrect refs(I belive the html handling > broke this, all I get are numbers and not titles.). Correct any other > errors I saw (These will donated back along with the Tip & Trick section > if others want it). Have 100 copies printed up and bind them in 3 ring > binders. Thats it. > > I'm in the final proofing now. Deskjet 540s' are not the worlds fastest > printers:) > > Gary > P.S. Can someone explain what was said?? I think Julian meant well, but had to be wrong. If AT&T can sell copies of Unix clearly derived (in part) from BSD code, well, so can you. I think he was thinking of the GNU type (It's FREE!) stuff, not the bsd copyright. > > -- > Gary Clark II (N5VMF) | FreeBSD support and service > gclarkii@FreeBSD.ORG | mail info@gbdata.com for information > FreeBSD FAQ at ftp.FreeBSD.ORG in > ~pub/FreeBSD/docs/freebsd-faq.ascii > > ========================================================================== Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu, I run FreeBSD-current on n3lxx + Journey2 Here's OJ's internet address in hex code: 00 2F 2F 2F 2F 5C 7F 2D 0D 15 1B 19 24 24 24 18 If you can't recall the translation, here it is: null character, slash, slash, slash, slash, backslash, rubout, dash, carriage return, negative acknowledgement, escape, end of media, dollar sign, dollar sign, dollar sign, cancel From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 8 06:14:24 1995 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id GAA06333 for doc-outgoing; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 06:14:24 -0800 Received: from ring.zenox.com (ring.zenox.com [204.138.171.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA06327 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 06:14:13 -0800 Received: from ring.zenox.com (ring.zenox.com [204.138.171.253]) by ring.zenox.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA03835; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 09:12:16 GMT Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 09:12:16 +0000 () From: "Jeff B. Bolton" To: John Fieber cc: michael huang , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (no subject) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-doc@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, John Fieber wrote: > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook.ascii > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook.tex > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook-html.tar.gz > > Personally, I recommend the latter. You can unpack them on your own > machine and use your favorite html browser to read them locally. I tried to grab the http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook-html.tar.gz, but every time I try it comes into the browser as garbled text. I've tried this with Lynx, Netscape and Internet Explorer with the same results. I searched the ftp and remainder of the web site but cannot find this file elsewhere. What am I doing wrong????? Cheers Jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------ Jeff B. Bolton jeff@zenox.com Zenox Communications (416) 241-7000 Ext. 340 http://www.zenox.com http://ring.zenox.com/~jeff/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 8 06:25:21 1995 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id GAA06692 for doc-outgoing; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 06:25:21 -0800 Received: from fieber-john.campusview.indiana.edu (Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA06687 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 06:25:18 -0800 Received: (from jfieber@localhost) by fieber-john.campusview.indiana.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA00349; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 09:25:12 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 09:25:11 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber X-Sender: jfieber@fieber-john.campusview.indiana.edu To: "Jeff B. Bolton" cc: michael huang , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (no subject) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-doc@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 8 Nov 1995, Jeff B. Bolton wrote: > I tried to grab the http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook-html.tar.gz, > but every time I try it comes into the browser as garbled text. I've > tried this with Lynx, Netscape and Internet Explorer with the same > results. I searched the ftp and remainder of the web site but cannot > find this file elsewhere. What am I doing wrong????? Hmm... I'll have to check the server configuration, it must not be sending out the correct Content type header. In the meantime, you can fetch it from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/docs/. -john == jfieber@indiana.edu =========================================== == http://fieber-john.campusview.indiana.edu/~jfieber ============ From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 8 07:46:41 1995 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id HAA09251 for doc-outgoing; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 07:46:41 -0800 Received: from eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (root@eikon.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de [129.187.42.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA09189 ; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 07:44:32 -0800 Received: from vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de [129.187.142.36]) by eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA29200; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 16:44:17 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA01039; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 09:59:58 +0100 Message-Id: <199511080859.JAA01039@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> X-Authentication-Warning: vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Michael Smith cc: gclarkii@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Printing the Handbook Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" X-Organisation: Vector Systems Ltd, Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany X-Occupation: Internet Unix C & Systems Engineering Consultant X-Phone: +49 89 268616 Fax: +49 89 2608126 Timezone: GMT+1 X-Web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 07 Nov 1995 02:42:18 GMT." <199511070242.CAA02560@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 09:59:58 +0100 From: "Julian H. Stacey" Sender: owner-doc@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I think you should go and read the Berkeley license again, Julian. > Gary can do whatever he likes with it, as long as he gives due credit. Seems I didnt quote enough context for you, (& as my original reply bounced, of course by now no one can be expected to remember it). Yes: people can sell what they write or modify or copy. No: they can't bundle it into the FreeBSD src/ tree with unusually restrictive copyright requiring royalty payments _Unless_ FreeBSD agrees (I'm not sure what Gary C. intended WRT this ) That's why I asked: >> ... or have I misunderstood you ? > On _TOP_ of this, he's offering 25% of his profits. I call that _damn_ > generous. Agreed, v. generous, but IMO no payment is worth sacrificing the src/ tree to royalties. Let's await Gary Clark's clarification of what he wants to do, Gary, care to clarify your proposal ? Thanks. Julian S From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 8 07:47:40 1995 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id HAA09287 for doc-outgoing; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 07:47:40 -0800 Received: from eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (eikon.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de [129.187.42.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA09223 ; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 07:45:38 -0800 Received: from vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de [129.187.142.36]) by eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA29197; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 16:44:13 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA01084; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 10:28:54 +0100 Message-Id: <199511080928.KAA01084@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> X-Authentication-Warning: vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Gary Clark II cc: freebsd-doc@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Printing the Handbook Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" X-Organisation: Vector Systems Ltd, Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany X-Occupation: Internet Unix C & Systems Engineering Consultant X-Phone: +49 89 268616 Fax: +49 89 2608126 Timezone: GMT+1 X-Web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 07 Nov 1995 02:50:27 PST." <199511071050.CAA13508@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 10:28:53 +0100 From: "Julian H. Stacey" Sender: owner-doc@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I do not understand what Julian S. was trying to say.:( I wrote > > ... or have I misunderstood you ? As I wan't clear what you proposed :-) If you propose to sell paper copies in ring binders, (or machine readable copies) : a) you don't need to pay FreeBSD anything b) your voluntary offering of 25% is very generous :-) c) I wish you best of luck simultaneously making money & publicising FreeBSD :-) If on the other hand a restrictive usage copyright requiring royalties would end up in our FreeBSD src/ tree, I would be against that (& such would need a wider authorisation than doc@ could grant ). Currently we have nothing more restrictive than GNU in src/ . Julian S From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 8 07:47:55 1995 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id HAA09328 for doc-outgoing; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 07:47:55 -0800 Received: from ring.zenox.com (ring.zenox.com [204.138.171.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA09318 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 07:47:52 -0800 Received: from ring.zenox.com (ring.zenox.com [204.138.171.253]) by ring.zenox.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA04265; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 10:45:47 GMT Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 10:45:47 +0000 () From: "Jeff B. Bolton" To: John Fieber cc: michael huang , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (no subject) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-doc@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 8 Nov 1995, John Fieber wrote: > Hmm... I'll have to check the server configuration, it must not be > sending out the correct Content type header. In the meantime, you can > fetch it from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/docs/. Thanx....I appreciate the help!! Cheers Jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------ Jeff B. Bolton jeff@zenox.com Zenox Communications (416) 241-7000 Ext. 340 http://www.zenox.com http://ring.zenox.com/~jeff/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 8 16:35:24 1995 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA02049 for doc-outgoing; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 16:35:24 -0800 Received: (from gclarkii@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id QAA02041 for freebsd-doc; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 16:35:16 -0800 From: Gary Clark II Message-Id: <199511090035.QAA02041@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Printing the Handbook To: freebsd-doc Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 16:35:15 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 725 Sender: owner-doc@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, The guts of the subject. Here is what I'm doing: 1. Grab handbook. 2. Grab FAQ. 3. Add Tips & Tricks. 4. Produce latex file from above. 5. Correct refs. 6. Reprint 7. Bind in 3-ring binder with cover art. 8. Return all corrections to doc project. 9. All corrections are under a BSD copyright. I must have written it in a weird way... All I meant in my original message is that I will donate 25% of the profits to the FreeBSD Project. Thats it! Gary -- Gary Clark II (N5VMF) | FreeBSD support and service gclarkii@FreeBSD.ORG | mail info@gbdata.com for information FreeBSD FAQ at ftp.FreeBSD.ORG in ~pub/FreeBSD/docs/freebsd-faq.ascii From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 8 21:22:54 1995 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id VAA19200 for doc-outgoing; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 21:22:54 -0800 Received: from UUCP-GW.CC.UH.EDU (root@UUCP-GW.CC.UH.EDU [129.7.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id VAA19190 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 21:22:47 -0800 Received: from Taronga.COM by UUCP-GW.CC.UH.EDU with UUCP id AA27146 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for doc@freebsd.org); Wed, 8 Nov 1995 22:39:48 -0600 Received: (from peter@localhost) by bonkers.taronga.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA19539 for taronga-freebsd-doc@uunet.uu.net; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 18:30:58 -0600 Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 18:30:58 -0600 From: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) Message-Id: <199511090030.SAA19539@bonkers.taronga.com> Subject: Re: Handbook Organization: Taronga Park BBS References: Apparently-To: doc@freebsd.org Sender: owner-doc@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In article , Jeff B. Bolton wrote: >I tried to grab the http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook-html.tar.gz, >but every time I try it comes into the browser as garbled text. Use Netscape, click on it with the right mouse button, and select save as. Or use mosaic, select download links, and click on it. Or use Lynx and select it then press d to download the current link. The point is that a LOT of servers get those file types wrong. I get in the habit of overriding them. From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 9 15:44:17 1995 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA13456 for doc-outgoing; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 15:44:17 -0800 Received: from eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (root@eikon.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de [129.187.42.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA13426 ; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 15:44:00 -0800 Received: from vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de [129.187.142.36]) by eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA12534; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 00:43:49 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA01066; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 10:28:09 +0100 Message-Id: <199511090928.KAA01066@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> X-Authentication-Warning: vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Gary Clark II cc: freebsd-doc@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Printing the Handbook Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" X-Organisation: Vector Systems Ltd, Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany X-Occupation: Internet Unix C & Systems Engineering Consultant X-Phone: +49 89 268616 Fax: +49 89 2608126 Timezone: GMT+1 X-Web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 08 Nov 1995 16:35:15 PST." <199511090035.QAA02041@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 10:28:09 +0100 From: "Julian H. Stacey" Sender: owner-doc@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > From: Gary Clark II > 7. Bind in 3-ring binder with cover art. > 8. Return all corrections to doc project. > 9. All corrections are under a BSD copyright. > > I must have written it in a weird way... All I meant in > my original message is that I will donate 25% of the profits to the > FreeBSD Project. Thats it! Sounds fine to me :-) Thanks for clarifying Gary :-) Julian S From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 9 15:53:41 1995 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA14234 for doc-outgoing; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 15:53:41 -0800 Received: from eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (eikon.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de [129.187.42.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA14225 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 15:53:33 -0800 Received: from vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de [129.187.142.36]) by eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA12634; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 00:52:32 +0100 Received: (from jhs@localhost) by vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id AAA02990; Fri, 10 Nov 1995 00:50:03 +0100 Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 00:50:03 +0100 From: "Julian Stacey jhs@freebsd.org" Message-Id: <199511092350.AAA02990@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> To: current@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org, friday@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de, port-pc532@netbsd.org, gea@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de Subject: Julian Stacey lost 200K of mail, if you'r awaiting a reply plse resend Sender: owner-doc@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I (Julian Stacey) have just lost over 200 K of mail, If you'r awaiting a response from me, please resend your mail (& dont reply to this, it's cc'd to too many lists) Apologies for the inconvenience ! Julian H. Stacey EMAIL: jhs@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Nov 11 20:32:56 1995 Return-Path: owner-doc Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id UAA22580 for doc-outgoing; Sat, 11 Nov 1995 20:32:56 -0800 Received: from Octans.ele.puc-rio.br (Octans.ele.puc-rio.br [139.82.23.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id UAA22565 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 1995 20:32:49 -0800 Received: from pentium90.embratel.net.br (drjo016A126.embratel.net.br) by Octans.ele.puc-rio.br (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09926; Sun, 12 Nov 95 02:32:29 EDT Message-Id: <9511120432.AA09926@Octans.ele.puc-rio.br> Date: Sun, 12 Nov 95 02:31:42 -0300 From: Meyer Elias Nigri Organization: MDN Informatica X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.2N (Windows; I; 32bit) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: How can I get a PS version of the FreeBSD handbook??? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I have browsed the WEB pages of this handbook, but I would like to have it all in a single file... Is it possible? Is there a book (or doc) in one of the two CD-ROMs ??? Thanks, Meyer.