From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Sep 4 22:36:45 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id WAA03325 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 22:36:45 -0700 Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA03275 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 22:36:36 -0700 Received: from monster.telekom.lv (monster.telekom.lv [194.8.16.106]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id JAA13504 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 09:11:14 -0700 Received: (from webby@localhost) by monster.telekom.lv (8.6.10/8.6.9) id TAA00418; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 19:09:29 +0300 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 19:09:28 +0300 (EET DST) From: Haralds Jakovels To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: hardware-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I am having huge problems with FreeBSD 2.0.5. The machine I am talking about is 486dx2 66 unknown brand - well, it has not any labels on it. The problems started just today. It has (dmesg output, some devices omitted) CPU: i486DX (486-class CPU) real memory = 33161216 (8096 pages) avail memory = 30883840 (7540 pages) [...] bt0: Bt445S/ 0-PCI/EISA/VLB(32bit) bus bt0: reading board settings, busmastering, int=11 bt0: version 3.37, fast sync, parity, 32 mbxs, 32 ccbs bt0: targ 0 sync rate=10.00MB/s(100ns), offset=15 bt0: targ 1 sync rate=10.00MB/s(100ns), offset=08 bt0: Enabling Round robin scheme bt0 at 0x330 irq 11 on isa bt0 waiting for scsi devices to settle (bt0:0:0): "HP C3323-300 4269" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(bt0:0:0): Direct-Access 1003MB (2056008 512 byte sectors) (bt0:1:0): "HP C2247-300 0BA4" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1(bt0:1:0): Direct-Access 1003MB (2054864 512 byte sectors) [...] extract from /var/log/messages (this happened just today) Sep 4 17:40:49 monster /kernel: sd0(bt0:0:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:1c548 asc:11,0 Unrecovered read error Sep 4 17:41:00 monster /kernel: , retries:4 Sep 4 17:41:00 monster /kernel: sd0(bt0:0:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:1c548 asc:11,0 Unrecovered read error Sep 4 17:41:00 monster /kernel: , retries:3 Sep 4 17:41:00 monster /kernel: sd0(bt0:0:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:1c548 asc:11,0 Unrecovered read error Sep 4 17:41:00 monster /kernel: , retries:2 Sep 4 17:41:00 monster /kernel: sd0(bt0:0:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:1c548 asc:11,0 Unrecovered read error Sep 4 17:41:00 monster /kernel: , retries:1 Sep 4 17:41:00 monster /kernel: sd0(bt0:0:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:1c548 asc:11,0 Unrecovered read error Sep 4 17:41:00 monster /kernel: , FAILURE Sep 4 17:41:00 monster /kernel: sd0(bt0:0:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:1c548 asc:11,0 Unrecovered read error [...] is there anything I can do about it? the error can be almost 100% reproduced with 'iozone 90' on that partition, that is, doing large reads/writes to the disk. also, there's some 'unremovable' damaged file. fsck says UNREF FILE I=118 OWNER=root MODE=100444 SIZE=5758 MTIME=Sep 4 17:25 1995 CLEAR? I answer with 'y', and the file is still here after reboot... needless to say, that file is on /dev/sd0a (root partition) :( cc me any reply, please. thanks in advance HJ From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Sep 5 01:56:54 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id BAA15623 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 01:56:54 -0700 Received: from pancake.remcomp.fr (pancake.remcomp.fr [194.51.30.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA15578 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 01:56:36 -0700 Received: from zapata.omnix.fr.org (zapata.omnix.fr.org [128.127.10.1]) by zapata.omnix.fr.org (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA01223 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:27:35 +0200 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:27:34 +0200 (MET DST) From: Didier Derny To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Video Board Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: hardware-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk What is the least expensive S3 board working with FreeBSD-2.05 and XFree86 ? Is it possible to use a Cirrus (GD5434) Board with FreeBSD-2.05 and XFree86 ? +---------------------+ | Didier Derny | | didier@omnix.fr.org | +---------------------+ From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Sep 5 07:29:26 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id HAA29607 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 07:29:26 -0700 Received: from relay3.UU.NET (relay3.UU.NET [192.48.96.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA29592 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 07:29:24 -0700 Received: from uucp2.UU.NET by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP id QQzfwr19735; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:29:23 -0400 Received: from uanet.UUCP by uucp2.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:29:23 -0400 Received: by crocodil.monolit.kiev.ua (8.6.8.1/8.5) id RAA03930 for hardware@freebsd.org; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 17:27:16 +0300 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 17:27:16 +0300 From: System daemons Message-Id: <199509051427.RAA03930@crocodil.monolit.kiev.ua> Apparently-To: hardware@freebsd.org Sender: hardware-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Sergey Kosyakov (ks@itp.ac.ru) wrote: > Dear all, > can we use our RISCom/N1 sync port card (SDL Communications) with > FreeBSD 2.0.5 ? As I know BSDI supports this card. As I know, there is no RISCom sync card support in FreeBSD for now. You may use Cronix/Sigma sync-async card with FreeBSD (in both PPP and CISCO HDLC modes). Probably, I'll find some time to write RISCom/N1 driver for FreeBSD in near future. SPPP support is already present in FreeBSD, so writing one more driver is not a very hard job (and SDL provides documentation and source code examples with their cards). > Sincerely, > Sergey. -- Ruslan Belkin at CS/MONOLIT Network Centre (rus@UA.net) From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Sep 5 12:48:52 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id MAA02134 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 12:48:52 -0700 Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA02124 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 12:48:46 -0700 Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id UAA18669 ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 20:08:28 +0200 Received: from (uucp@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with UUCP id UAA11812 ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 20:08:27 +0200 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.frmug.fr.net (8.7.Beta.13/keltia-uucp-2.4) id TAA26379; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:33:40 +0200 (MET DST) From: Ollivier Robert Message-Id: <199509051733.TAA26379@keltia.frmug.fr.net> Subject: Re: Video Board To: didier@omnix.fr.org (Didier Derny) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:33:40 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org Reply-To: roberto@Keltia.Freenix.FR (Ollivier Robert) In-Reply-To: from "Didier Derny" at Sep 5, 95 10:27:34 am X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT ctm#1071 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME7a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: hardware-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk It seems that Didier Derny said: > What is the least expensive S3 board working with FreeBSD-2.05 and > XFree86 ? Depends on where you buy it :-) Seriously, there is a lot cheap S3 cards from Taiwan available in the french market. Just browse some shops. > Is it possible to use a Cirrus (GD5434) Board with FreeBSD-2.05 and > XFree86 ? This is really a XFree86 version not a FreeBSD. Check in Xfree86's release notes. ------------------------------------------------------------ Information for Cirrus Chipset Users Harm Hanemaayer (hhanemaa@cs.ruu.nl), Randy Hendry (randy@sgi.com) 27 January 1995 1. Supported chipsets There are two different SVGA drivers for Cirrus chipsets, one called ``cirrus'' and one called ``cl64xx''. The ``cirrus'' driver is used in the 256-color SVGA server (with acceleration) and the mono server (without acceleration). The SVGA server supports 16 and 32 bits-per- pixel truecolor modes on some configurations. The ``cl64xx'' driver is used in the 256-color SVGA, 16-color and mono servers. Note that except where stated otherwise, this document is referring to the ``cirrus'' driver. The following chipsets by Cirrus Logic are supported: CL-GD5420 ISA SVGA chipset, 1Mbyte; maximum dot clock is 45 MHz (256 color server). Acceleration with extended write modes (used for scrolling and solid filling in this driver). This chipset can not support 1024x768 non-interlaced in 256 colors. CL-GD5422 Enhanced version of the 5420 (32-bit internal memory interface). Maximum dot clock is 80 MHz. CL-GD6205/6215/6225/6235 Laptop chipsets more or less compatible with the 5420. The only dot clock supported is 25 MHz (more on an external display). Some problems have been reported with these chipsets (especially on external displays). Take note of the "noaccel" option. CL-GD6420/6440 These chipsets are not compatible with the 542x series, but are supported by the ``cl64xx'' driver. It is used in recent laptops, and bears some similarity to old Cirrus chipsets (5410/AVGA2). The driver may also work for other 64xx chips. The configuration identifiers for this driver are "cl6420" and "cl6440". This driver is discussed in detail in section ``The cl64xx Driver''. CL-GD5424 Basically VLB version of the 5422, but resembles the 5426 in some respects. CL-GD5426 Supports both ISA bus and VLB, and up to 2Mbyte of memory. Has BitBLT engine for improved acceleration (BitBlt, image transfer, text). Dot clock limit is 85 MHz. CL-GD5428 Enhanced version of the 5426. CL-GD5429 Enhanced version of the 5428; officially supports higher MCLK and has memory-mapped I/O. CL-GD5430 Similar to 5429, but with 543x core (32-bit host interface). Does not have 64-bit memory mode. CL-GD5434 Next generation `Alpine' family chip with 64-bit internal memory interface. Used by the Orchid Kelvin 64. The chip can only support 64-bit mode if equipped with 2 Mbytes of memory; cards with only 1 Mbyte are severely limited. Support dot clocks up to 110 MHz. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.frmug.fr.net FreeBSD keltia 2.2-CURRENT #17: Sun Sep 3 20:59:24 MET DST 1995 From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Sep 5 14:53:55 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id OAA07574 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 14:53:55 -0700 Received: from thing.sunquest.com (thing.Sunquest.COM [149.138.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA07567 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 14:53:31 -0700 Received: by thing.sunquest.com; id AA04787; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 14:47:08 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 14:47:08 -0700 From: Tony Jones Message-Id: <9509052147.AA04787@thing.sunquest.com> To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Tape drive recommendation Sender: hardware-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm looking for recommendations on tape drives that work well with FreeBSD (2.0.5) - primarily for system backups. I'd like a 2GB SCSI 4mm DAT but due to their cost, I was considering some of the cheaper PC specific alternatives (which I don't know much about - is there support for the high capacity QIC type devices, are they a good choice etc etc) Appreciate any comments/advice ? tony (If anyone knows of any screaming deals on _good_ 4mm DAT drives - let me know) From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Sep 5 19:52:23 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id TAA18177 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:52:23 -0700 Received: from panix2.panix.com (panix2.panix.com [198.7.0.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA18169 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 19:52:20 -0700 Received: (from jbrann@localhost) by panix2.panix.com (8.6.12/8.6.12+PanixU1.1) id WAA11828 for hardware@freebsd.org; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 22:52:13 -0400 From: John Brann Message-Id: <199509060252.WAA11828@panix2.panix.com> Subject: Re: Video Board, Cirrus Logic 5434 on PCI To: hardware@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 22:52:13 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: from "Didier Derny" at Sep 5, 95 10:27:34 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1421 Sender: hardware-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > Is it possible to use a Cirrus (GD5434) Board with FreeBSD-2.05 and > XFree86 ? > > Yes, definitely. I have a PCI card with 2Mb memory which works just fine at 8bpp. It also worked with 1Mb - which brings me to another question... I added the extra Meg of memory to move up to 64K colours. In order to drive my GD5434 up to 16bpp, I must specify a 'Membase' option for the framebuffer base address. To quote the 'Readme'... With a card on the PCI bus, there is a PCI configuration register that holds the framebuffer base address. However, the driver currently does not read it out yet, so you'll have to specify the address with MemBase. On one system tested, it mapped at 0xa0000000, and it appeared addresses where assigned in 0x08000000 increments over the PCI devices. A program is most likely available to read out the PCI configuration. So, does this program exist? Alternatively, can I work out the info. I need from the boot messages? I see that... vga0 rev 142 int a irq ?? on pci0:18 pci0: uses 16781312 bytes of memory from f800000 0 upto f8ffffff. Any help is appreciated... I'm running 2.0.5-950622-SNAP on a Pentium 60 with 32Mb of RAM John -- "That was inedible muck, and there wasn't enough of it." Sir Henry Rawlinson. John Brann -- jbrann@panix.com jbrann@newparadigm.com From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Sep 5 20:38:54 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id UAA20243 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 20:38:54 -0700 Received: from panix2.panix.com (panix2.panix.com [198.7.0.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA20231 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 20:38:51 -0700 Received: (from jbrann@localhost) by panix2.panix.com (8.6.12/8.6.12+PanixU1.1) id XAA19092; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 23:37:28 -0400 From: John Brann Message-Id: <199509060337.XAA19092@panix2.panix.com> Subject: Re: Tape drive recommendation To: tony@thing.sunquest.com (Tony Jones) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 23:37:27 -0400 (EDT) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9509052147.AA04787@thing.sunquest.com> from "Tony Jones" at Sep 5, 95 02:47:08 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 853 Sender: hardware-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > I'm looking for recommendations on tape drives that work well with FreeBSD > (2.0.5) - primarily for system backups. > > I'd like a 2GB SCSI 4mm DAT but due to their cost, I was considering some of > the cheaper PC specific alternatives (which I don't know much about - is there > support for the high capacity QIC type devices, are they a good choice etc etc) > > Appreciate any comments/advice ? > > tony > > (If anyone knows of any screaming deals on _good_ 4mm DAT drives - let me know) > I recently bought a Conner SCSI 2Gb QIC drive. It wasn't too expensive (I forget how much, $250?) and works fine. The tapes are damned expensive, though! jb -- "That was inedible muck, and there wasn't enough of it." Sir Henry Rawlinson. John Brann -- jbrann@panix.com jbrann@newparadigm.com From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Sep 5 20:57:40 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id UAA21877 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 20:57:40 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA21865 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 20:57:27 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA25576; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 13:32:53 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199509060402.NAA25576@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Tape drive recommendation To: jbrann@panix.com (John Brann) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 13:32:53 +0930 (CST) Cc: tony@thing.sunquest.com, hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199509060337.XAA19092@panix2.panix.com> from "John Brann" at Sep 5, 95 11:37:27 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 975 Sender: hardware-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk John Brann stands accused of saying: > > (If anyone knows of any screaming deals on _good_ 4mm DAT drives - let me know) > > > I recently bought a Conner SCSI 2Gb QIC drive. It wasn't too expensive > (I forget how much, $250?) and works fine. The tapes are damned expensive, > though! DDS2 tapes, on the other hand, are around $20 here. This reinvokes a question I asked a while ago : is there _anyone_ out there using a Wangtek 3400DX? I have one here that is misbehaving seriously, and I'm really looking for some advice 8( > John Brann -- jbrann@panix.com jbrann@newparadigm.com -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Sep 5 21:29:27 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id VAA22948 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 21:29:27 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA22938 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 21:29:26 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id VAA02885; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 21:29:21 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199509060429.VAA02885@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: Video Board, Cirrus Logic 5434 on PCI To: jbrann@panix.com (John Brann) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 21:29:21 -0700 (PDT) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199509060252.WAA11828@panix2.panix.com> from "John Brann" at Sep 5, 95 10:52:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1650 Sender: hardware-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk you really should send these questions to the Xfree86 groups.. the freebsd group don't know the internals of their stuff.. we just import it.. > > > > > > > Is it possible to use a Cirrus (GD5434) Board with FreeBSD-2.05 and > > XFree86 ? > > > > > Yes, definitely. I have a PCI card with 2Mb memory which works just fine at > 8bpp. It also worked with 1Mb - which brings me to another question... > > I added the extra Meg of memory to move up to 64K colours. In order to drive > my GD5434 up to 16bpp, I must specify a 'Membase' option for the framebuffer > base address. To quote the 'Readme'... > > With a card on the PCI bus, there is a PCI configuration register that > holds the framebuffer base address. However, the driver currently does > not read it out yet, so you'll have to specify the address with > MemBase. On one system tested, it mapped at 0xa0000000, and it > appeared addresses where assigned in 0x08000000 increments over the > PCI devices. A program is most likely available to read out the PCI > configuration. > > > So, does this program exist? Alternatively, can I work out the info. I need > from the boot messages? I see that... > > vga0 rev 142 int a irq ?? on pci0:18 > pci0: uses 16781312 bytes of memory from f800000 0 upto f8ffffff. > > Any help is appreciated... > > I'm running 2.0.5-950622-SNAP on a Pentium 60 with 32Mb of RAM > > John > > -- > "That was inedible muck, and there wasn't enough of it." > Sir Henry Rawlinson. > John Brann -- jbrann@panix.com jbrann@newparadigm.com > From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Sep 5 22:39:37 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id WAA00326 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 22:39:37 -0700 Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA00313 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 22:39:35 -0700 Received: from zyqad.co.uk (zyqad.demon.co.uk [158.152.135.161]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id WAA23350 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 22:39:14 -0700 Received: from localhost by zyqad.co.uk; (5.65/1.1.8.2/21Apr95-0317PM) id AA07762; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 16:11:10 +0100 Message-Id: <9509051511.AA07762@zyqad.co.uk> To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: SCSI - 1/2/3 fast wide Date: Tue, 05 Sep 95 16:11:09 +0100 From: "John Richards" X-Mts: smtp Sender: hardware-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I'm getting a little confused by all these different SCSIs there seem to be. Specifically I have a quote from a local supplier for a CDROM, SCSI adapter and a 500MB disk. The equipment in question is Toshiba XM5301B quad speed CDROM - SCSI-2 Adaptec 2842 VL kit 32 bit to Fast SCSI adapter 540 MB Quantum Maverick Fast SCSI-3 512K cache 9.5ms disk I've been trying to find out: 1. Will these three actually work together 2. What is SCSI 1/2/3 fast wide etc - to try to solve 1 3. Is the quote really telling the truth about the disk. The SCSI-3 and 9.5ms access times don't tally with other adverts [Quoted access of 14ms]. Also I've got Rods post about the quantum range of drives. I am aware of the www pages at www.freebsd.org but at the moment our connection to there is down - although ftp works. In any case our ISP is having problems at the moment and retrieving stuff is really slow 35B/s-ish. Are the documentation pages available anywhere in the UK?? Thanks for any help you can offer. John ******************************************************************************** John Richards * email : john@zyqad.co.uk Zyqad Ltd, * Suite 25, GPT Business Park, * Technology Drive, Beeston * tel : 44 (0)115 922 0820 NOTTINGHAM. NG9 2ND. * fax : 44 (0)115 967 8374 ******************************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Sep 5 23:25:57 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id XAA01971 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 23:25:57 -0700 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA01960 for ; Tue, 5 Sep 1995 23:25:53 -0700 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id QAA26051; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 16:01:51 +0930 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199509060631.QAA26051@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: SCSI - 1/2/3 fast wide To: john@zyqad.co.uk (John Richards) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 16:01:51 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9509051511.AA07762@zyqad.co.uk> from "John Richards" at Sep 5, 95 04:11:09 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1857 Sender: hardware-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk John Richards stands accused of saying: > The equipment in question is > > Toshiba XM5301B quad speed CDROM - SCSI-2 > Adaptec 2842 VL kit 32 bit to Fast SCSI adapter > 540 MB Quantum Maverick Fast SCSI-3 512K cache 9.5ms disk > > I've been trying to find out: > > 1. Will these three actually work together Should do just fine. > 2. What is SCSI 1/2/3 fast wide etc - to try to solve 1 SCSI 1 : "old" SCSI spec, details disks & tapes. SCSI 2 : "current" spec, adds CDroms & lots of other devices, adds extensions for "fast" and "wide" operation, etc. SCSI 3 : "evolving" spec, not formalised yet. "fast" refers to an alternative way of handshaking data across the SCSI bus. Most decent SCSI-2 disks do it. CDroms don't usually (not worthwhile). "wide" refers to a 16-bit wide version of the SCSI bus. You need special cables for this, and a "wide" controller. It is possible to put "narrow" devices on a "wide" bus, but cabling can become a nightmare. > 3. Is the quote really telling the truth about the disk. The SCSI-3 and 9.5ms > access times don't tally with other adverts [Quoted access of 14ms]. Also I've > got Rods post about the quantum range of drives. Check www.quantum.com when your link improves; I'd trust Rod rather than the quote. (There are other Quantum drives that fit the -3 and 9.5 spec, but I don't believe that the Maverick does.) > John Richards * email : john@zyqad.co.uk Hope that's some help. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Sep 6 20:00:48 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id UAA05710 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 20:00:48 -0700 Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA05704 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 20:00:47 -0700 Received: from id.slip.bcm.tmc.edu (hou61.onramp.net [199.1.137.189]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id UAA28409 for ; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 20:00:12 -0700 Received: (from rich@localhost) by id.slip.bcm.tmc.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id VAA01189; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 21:57:39 -0500 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 21:57:39 -0500 From: Rich Murphey Message-Id: <199509070257.VAA01189@id.slip.bcm.tmc.edu> To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au CC: hardware@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199509060402.NAA25576@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> (message from Michael Smith on Wed, 6 Sep 1995 13:32:53 +0930 (CST)) Subject: Re: Tape drive recommendation Reply-to: rich@lamprey.utmb.edu Sender: hardware-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk |From: Michael Smith |This reinvokes a question I asked a while ago : is there _anyone_ out |there using a Wangtek 3400DX? I have one here that is misbehaving |seriously, and I'm really looking for some advice 8( I use a WangDAT Model 3200. When it works, it works flawlessly. However, mine was exposed to some heavy sheet-rock dust during remodelling here and is now in the shop for the second time since -- but that's not surprising for such abuse. Rich From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Sep 7 04:44:15 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) id EAA12731 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 04:44:15 -0700 Received: from Relay1.Austria.EU.net (relay1.Austria.EU.net [192.92.138.47]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.11/8.6.6) with SMTP id EAA12723 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 04:44:10 -0700 Received: from shraero.UUCP by Relay1.Austria.EU.net with UUCP id AA28293 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org); Thu, 7 Sep 1995 13:44:03 +0200 Received: from analog.co.at. by shraero.co.at (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA09256; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 12:17:08 +0200 Received: by analog.co.at. (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20614; Thu, 7 Sep 95 12:18:28 +0200 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 95 12:18:28 +0200 From: kaufmann@analog.shraero.co.at (Roland Kaufmann SCHRACK AEROSPACE) Message-Id: <9509071018.AA20614@analog.co.at.> To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Swap vs RAM space Content-Length: 752 Sender: hardware-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk -Vince- (-Vince-) wrote: ... -Vince-> Hmmm, is there like a way to do well with a big swap and -Vince-> like 16 megs of physical memory? How much physical memory is -Vince-> on the machine with 400 meg swap? It depends on your application(s), but if you have a single memory-hungry program with bad locality, as my experience with digital circuit simulation indicates, performance decreases dramatically once your virtual memory requirements exceed the available RAM. We are talking about orders of magnitude here. For example, when I upgraded my machine from 16 to 64 M, simulation time shrank from days to hours! best regards Roland Kaufmann From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Sep 7 10:46:29 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA02303 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 10:46:29 -0700 Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.Germany.EU.net [192.76.144.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA02286 for ; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 10:46:06 -0700 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (5.59:8/EUnetD-2.5.2.a) via EUnet id TAA14921; Thu, 7 Sep 1995 19:45:50 +0200 Received: from robkaos by mail.ruhrgebiet.individual.net with uucp (Smail3.1.29.0 #4) id m0sqkhM-000vuyC; Thu, 7 Sep 95 19:25 MET DST Received: by robkaos.ruhr.de (/\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.1) id ; Thu, 7 Sep 95 19:15 MET DST Message-Id: Date: Thu, 7 Sep 95 19:15 MET DST From: robsch@robkaos.ruhr.de (Robert Schien) To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Conner CFP2160S 2 gig hard drive Sender: hardware-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk A few days ago I bought a Conner CFP2160S 2 Gigabyte hard drive, mainly because I need more space for FreeBSD. Because there are so many knowledgable people on this list, I ask whether the following problem is known, which I have: When doing a verify in the BIOS of the AHA1542C, I get lots of errors. Is this normal? Then I low-level-formatted the drive (again with the supplied BIOS routines), but it did not help: again verify errors. Is there anything known about this type of drive? 1.5 years ago I had a 1 gig Conner SCSI drive with similiar problems. I thought I could give Conner a chance again ;) Thanks in advance. Robert From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Sep 8 17:12:21 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA17123 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 17:12:21 -0700 Received: from rs1.hrz.th-darmstadt.de (rs1.hrz.th-darmstadt.de [130.83.22.60]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA17117 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 1995 17:12:12 -0700 Received: from [130.83.177.12] (ppp12.stud.th-darmstadt.de [130.83.177.12]) by rs1.hrz.th-darmstadt.de (8.6.10/8.6.4) with SMTP id CAA17643; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 02:11:52 +0200 X-Sender: (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 02:11:55 +0200 To: -Vince- From: beckmann@powermac.stud.th-darmstadt.de (Michael Beckmann) Subject: Re: Upgrade to my machine Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Sender: hardware-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk At 03:40 Uhr 30.8.1995, -Vince- wrote: >> > Hmmm okay but what drives can touch the barracuda's in terms of >> >speed? >> >> The IBM DFHS line of drives, absolutely. 7 ms access, 7200 rpm, MTBF >> 1.000.000 h. Available as both Fast - and Wide SCSI-II drives. >> >> I would always prefer these drives and not buy a Barracuda, since I have >> made very good experiences with IBM drives in both reliability and speed. > > Are these DeskStar or FireStar lines of drives? Certainly not the Deskstar. I have the Deskstar datasheet here, they are pretty good, but not IBMs High End drives. The deskstar are rated at 500.000 h MTBF, 5400 rpm and 10.5 ms av. seek; available with 540 MB and 1 GB capacity. BTW, according to recent tests in c't (German computer magazine) the DFHS drives from IBM outperform the Barracudas slightly. In the test only one of the Barracuras was a bit faster than the IBM DFHS; it was a Wide SCSI model. IBMs Wide SCSI drives weren't tested. Regards, and sorry it took me so long to answer, Michael From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Sep 9 19:47:50 1995 Return-Path: hardware-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA10321 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 19:47:50 -0700 Received: from penzance.econ.yale.edu (root@penzance.econ.yale.edu [130.132.32.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA10314 for ; Sat, 9 Sep 1995 19:47:47 -0700 Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 22:47:17 -0400 (EDT) From: -Vince- To: Michael Beckmann cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrade to my machine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: hardware-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 9 Sep 1995, Michael Beckmann wrote: > At 03:40 Uhr 30.8.1995, -Vince- wrote: > > >> > Hmmm okay but what drives can touch the barracuda's in terms of > >> >speed? > >> > >> The IBM DFHS line of drives, absolutely. 7 ms access, 7200 rpm, MTBF > >> 1.000.000 h. Available as both Fast - and Wide SCSI-II drives. > >> > >> I would always prefer these drives and not buy a Barracuda, since I have > >> made very good experiences with IBM drives in both reliability and speed. > > > > Are these DeskStar or FireStar lines of drives? > > Certainly not the Deskstar. I have the Deskstar datasheet here, they are > pretty good, but not IBMs High End drives. The deskstar are rated at > 500.000 h MTBF, 5400 rpm and 10.5 ms av. seek; available with 540 MB and 1 > GB capacity. What are IBM's high end line of drives called? > BTW, according to recent tests in c't (German computer magazine) the DFHS > drives from IBM outperform the Barracudas slightly. In the test only one of > the Barracuras was a bit faster than the IBM DFHS; it was a Wide SCSI > model. IBMs Wide SCSI drives weren't tested. > > Regards, and sorry it took me so long to answer, That's okay.... Any opinions/comments on the Sequent DSP5400 4 GIG 5.25" FH SCSI drive though? Are these any good and are they really made by DEC? Cheers, -Vince- vince@penzance.econ.yale.edu - GUS Mailing Lists Admin UC Berkeley AstroPhysics - Electrical Engineering (Honorary B.S.) SysAdmin bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU - Running FreeBSD, Real UN*X for Free!