From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Oct 30 06:55:40 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id GAA24869 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 06:55:40 -0800 Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au (pp@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au [130.102.2.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA24864 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 06:55:38 -0800 Received: from cc.uq.oz.au by bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au id <11333-0@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au>; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 00:55:25 +1000 Received: from netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au by pandora.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.10/DEVETIR-E0.3a) with ESMTP id VAA26164 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 21:46:10 +1000 Received: from localhost by netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.8.1/DEVETIR-0.1) id LAA00811 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 11:46:43 GMT Message-Id: <199510301146.LAA00811@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.4 10/10/95 To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: DX4-75 486? X-Face: 3}heU+2?b->-GSF-G4T4>jEB9~FR(V9lo&o>kAy=Pj&;oVOc<|pr%I/VSG"ZD32J>5gGC0N 7gj]^GI@M:LlqNd]|(2OxOxy@$6@/!,";-!OlucF^=jq8s57$%qXd/ieC8DhWmIy@J1AcnvSGV\|*! >Bvu7+0h4zCY^]{AxXKsDTlgA2m]fX$W@'8ev-Qi+-;%L'CcZ'NBL!@n?}q!M&Em3*eW7,093nOeV8 M)(u+6D;%B7j\XA/9j4!Gj~&jYzflG[#)E9sI&Xe9~y~Gn%fA7>F:YKr"Wx4cZU*6{^2ocZ!YyR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 21:46:42 +1000 From: Stephen Hocking Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk After much fruitless searching looking for a 5v CPU, I've been offered a DX4-75 iNTEL CPU (actually clock tripled). Just about all the other CPUs on offer were 3.3v. The one catch (of course) is that you have to run the motherboard at 25MHz, rather than 33MHz. I can do this (it is an old OPTi MB, so old it doesn't even have VLB slots), but it also has knobs in the BIOS to twiddle for wait states on the memory (70ns) & cache (25ns). I'm tempted to haul those right back, as it won't be running at 33MHz. Any ideas? Anybody used one of these things? Stephen -- I do not speak for the Worker's Compensation Board of Queensland - They don't pay me enough for that! From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Oct 30 13:30:23 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA17465 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 13:30:23 -0800 Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA17393 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 13:29:23 -0800 Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id WAA14174 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 22:28:41 +0100 Received: from (uucp@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with UUCP id WAA13256 for hardware@freebsd.org; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 22:28:40 +0100 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.7.1/keltia-uucp-2.6) id WAA00511 for hardware@freebsd.org; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 22:24:33 +0100 (MET) From: Ollivier Robert Message-Id: <199510302124.WAA00511@keltia.freenix.fr> Subject: Bad harware or not ? To: hardware@freebsd.org (Hardware Mailing list) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 22:24:32 +0100 (MET) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT ctm#1275 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have a SMC WD8013EP (boot messages below). Since between 2.0 and 2.0.5, it begun to show input errors (Ierrs in "netstat -i" output). I filled a bug report thinking it was a problem in the "ed" driver a while ago. I have tested: - using AUI with a RJ45 tranceiver, - changing my thin ethernet cable (I've not tried changing the terminators as I don't have many of them), - eliminating some "experimental options" in my kernel (AUTO_EOI_1 and such), --> No changes. But I don't really know where lies the problem... Does anyone has an idea ? Is the card missing interrupts or something else ? FTP from this machine to another is acceptable, mostly 400-500 KB/s ncftp>put cvs-951029.tar.gz Sending file: cvs-951029.tar.gz 100% 0 1267419 bytes. ETA: 0:00 cvs-951029.tar.gz: 1267419 bytes sent in 2.37 seconds, 522.72 K/s. FTP from another machine to this one is unacceptable, I get between 30 and 60 KB/s... netstat -i before the transfert: 201 [21:35] roberto@keltia:~> netstat -i Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll ed0 1500 00.00.c0.4d.ed.08 4025 46 4108 0 3 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ed0 1500 FR-ATL-NET keltia 4025 46 4108 0 3 ncftp>get cvs-951029.tar.gz Receiving file: cvs-951029.tar.gz 100% 0 1267419 bytes. ETA: 0:00 cvs-951029.tar.gz: 1267419 bytes received in 25.91 seconds, 47.77 K/s. netstat -i after the transfert: 202 [22:16] roberto@keltia:~> netstat -i Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll ed0 1500 00.00.c0.4d.ed.08 5091 83 4529 0 3 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ed0 1500 FR-ATL-NET keltia 5091 83 4529 0 3 Relevant info: PC 486DX-33, 32 MB, EISA with a BT747S and a AHA-1740A. The other end is a sparcbook running SunOS 4.1.3. ------------------------------------------------------------ FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT #5: Sun Oct 29 22:44:15 MET 1995 roberto@keltia.freenix.fr:/src/src/sys/compile/KELTIA CPU: i486DX (486-class CPU) real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) avail memory = 31379456 (30644K bytes) Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 at 0x300-0x31f irq 10 maddr 0xcc000 msize 16384 on isa ed0: address 00:00:c0:4d:ed:08, type WD8013EP (16 bit) ------------------------------------------------------------ # # KELTIA # # $Id: GENERIC,v 1.11 1994/11/08 07:39:26 jkh Exp $ # machine "i386" cpu "I486_CPU" ident "KELTIA" maxusers 20 options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options MFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options PROCFS #Berkeley proc Filesystem options UNION #Union filesystem options "CD9660" #ISO FS options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 options "SCSI_2_DEF" #hack for the mp1624 options UCONSOLE #for xconsole options "AUTO_EOI_1" options "AUTO_EOI_2" options DUMMY_NOPS options TEST_LABELLING options "COMPAT_LINUX" options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG options "SHMMAXPGS=128" # 512 KB of sharable memory options "CHILD_MAX=128" options "OPEN_MAX=128" options KTRACE config kernel root on sd0 swap on sd0 and sd1 and sd2 dumps on sd0 controller isa0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 controller bt0 at isa? port "IO_BT0" bio irq ? vector btintr controller scbus0 at bt0 controller ahb0 at isa? bio irq ? vector ahbintr controller scbus1 at ahb0 # BT: conner + CD disk sd0 at scbus0 target 0 unit 0 device cd0 at scbus0 target 6 # 1740: seagate + streamer + DAT disk sd2 at scbus1 target 2 tape st0 at scbus1 target 5 tape st1 at scbus1 target 4 controller snd0 device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 3 vector sbintr device opl0 at isa? port 0x388 device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr device ed0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xcc000 vector edintr pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device log pseudo-device sl 1 pseudo-device ppp 1 pseudo-device bpfilter 4 #Berkeley packet filter pseudo-device pty 32 pseudo-device speaker pseudo-device vn #Vnode driver (turns a file into a device) pseudo-device disc #Discard device pseudo-device tun 1 #Enable user-level PPP see ppp(8) pseudo-device snp 3 #Snoop device - to look at pty/vty/etc.. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.frmug.fr.net FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #5: Mon Oct 30 00:03:29 MET 1995 From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Oct 30 17:18:48 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id RAA29593 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 17:18:48 -0800 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA29588 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 1995 17:18:45 -0800 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA02673; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 11:49:02 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199510310119.LAA02673@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: DX4-75 486? To: sysseh@devetir.qld.gov.au (Stephen Hocking) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 11:49:01 +1030 (CST) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199510301146.LAA00811@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> from "Stephen Hocking" at Oct 30, 95 09:46:42 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 889 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Stephen Hocking stands accused of saying: > > After much fruitless searching looking for a 5v CPU, I've been offered a > DX4-75 iNTEL CPU (actually clock tripled). Just about all the other CPUs on > offer were 3.3v. The one catch (of course) is that you have to run the I have a source of 5V Intel DX4/100's. They have an office in Brisbane; Y-Micro. Pricing is ~$295 tax inc. Call me if you need more details. Don't buy a DX4/75; the Cyrix DX2/80 is faster if you must. (40MHz external) > Stephen -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Oct 31 22:01:20 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id WAA23687 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 22:01:20 -0800 Received: from maui.com (puga@waena.mrtc.maui.com [199.4.33.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA23667 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 22:01:18 -0800 Received: (from puga@localhost) by maui.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id UAA26169 for hardware@freebsd.org; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 20:05:17 -1000 From: Richard Puga Message-Id: <199511010605.UAA26169@ maui.com> Subject: Q-Logic SCSI Controler To: hardware@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 20:05:16 -1000 (HST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 200 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have a Q-Logic Fast SCSI IQ PCI controler.. I was wondering if there was anyone working on a driver for FreeBSD.. I know there is a driver for SCO and Linux... Thanks in advance RP puga@mauicom From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Oct 31 22:39:26 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id WAA25822 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 22:39:26 -0800 Received: from aslan.cdrom.com (aslan.cdrom.com [192.216.223.142]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA25816 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 22:39:25 -0800 Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA10859; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 23:16:12 -0800 Message-Id: <199511010716.XAA10859@aslan.cdrom.com> X-Authentication-Warning: aslan.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: Richard Puga cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Q-Logic SCSI Controler In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 31 Oct 1995 20:05:16 -1000." <199511010605.UAA26169@ maui.com> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 23:16:11 -0800 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >I have a Q-Logic Fast SCSI IQ PCI controler.. I was wondering if there >was anyone working on a driver for FreeBSD.. I know there is a driver >for SCO and Linux... > >Thanks in advance > >RP >puga@mauicom If I can get a system to work on the driver, I will probably be the person writing this driver. -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== Software Developer - Walnut Creek CDROM FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Nov 1 09:40:39 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id JAA23083 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 09:40:39 -0800 Received: from blob.best.net (blob.best.net [204.156.128.88]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA23075 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 09:40:37 -0800 Received: from geli.clusternet (rcarter.vip.best.com [204.156.137.2]) by blob.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA23507 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 09:40:33 -0800 Received: (from rcarter@localhost) by geli.clusternet (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA07737; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 09:37:41 -0800 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 09:37:41 -0800 From: "Russell L. Carter" Message-Id: <199511011737.JAA07737@geli.clusternet> To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: PCMCIA chipset Cc: rcarter@geli.com Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'm playing around with a Midwest Micro/Infotel Soundbook II. The chipset is a PicoPower P86C768 with a BIOS date of 5/30/95. The ethernet PCMCIA card supplied with it is supposed to be compatible with the following controllers: Intel 82365SL and compatibles Toshiba ICCNT DataBook TCIC-2/N I'm new to this stuff; the ethernet card is not recognized at boot by a -current kernel, so I presume that I need to bring up the card services, and maybe configure the TCIC controller in the kernel. I'm currently in the slow lane with PLIP, so if that's not the right thing somebody elbow me toward the right direction... Cheers, Russell From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Nov 1 14:26:09 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id OAA00679 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 14:26:09 -0800 Received: from multivac.orthanc.com (root@multivac.orthanc.com [204.244.20.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA00661 ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 14:26:02 -0800 Received: from localhost (lyndon@localhost) by multivac.orthanc.com (8.7/8.7) with SMTP id OAA25019; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 14:25:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199511012225.OAA25019@multivac.orthanc.com> X-Authentication-Warning: multivac.orthanc.com: Host lyndon@localhost didn't use HELO protocol From: Lyndon Nerenberg VE7TCP To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Reply-To: lyndon@orthanc.com Subject: Known working DAT drives X-Attribution: VE7TCP Date: Wed, 01 Nov 1995 14:25:58 -0800 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk After endless frustration trying to get a Conner CTMS drive working under 2.0.5 and 2.1-X I'm advising the customer to pitch the current drive and install a DAT instead. I'm curious to here from anyone who has a DAT drive running, specifically the manufacturer, model number, SCSI controller, and FreeBSD release you're running under. Thanks, --lyndon From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Nov 1 15:10:00 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA02255 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 15:10:00 -0800 Received: from tailspin.nas.nasa.gov (tailspin.nas.nasa.gov [129.99.33.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA02238 ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 15:09:51 -0800 Received: from localhost (proett@localhost) by tailspin.nas.nasa.gov (8.6.12/NAS.6.1) with SMTP id PAA23739; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 15:08:28 -0800 Message-Id: <199511012308.PAA23739@tailspin.nas.nasa.gov> X-Authentication-Warning: tailspin.nas.nasa.gov: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: lyndon@orthanc.com cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Known working DAT drives In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 01 Nov 1995 14:25:58 PST." <199511012225.OAA25019@multivac.orthanc.com> Date: Wed, 01 Nov 1995 15:08:27 -0800 From: Tom Proett Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have an older DAT drive by Wangtek, model 6130 FS. I started out with my system running FreeBSD 1.1. The controller is an Adaptec 1742. I upgraded to FreeBSD 1.1.5.1 ... no problem. When I upgraded to FreeBSD 2.0.5 ... problem. I had previously been using tar with a block size of 128k. This did not work under 2.0.5. It does work with block sizes under 64k. Some change took place where it now thinks it is using variable length blocks. Other than that it has worked fine. Tom Proett From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Nov 1 15:21:31 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA02565 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 15:21:31 -0800 Received: from mail.palnet.com (doleh.nai.net [205.139.1.114]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA02539 ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 15:21:24 -0800 Received: (from doleh@localhost) by mail.palnet.com (8.6.11/95.03.29) id SAA13023; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:16:52 -0500 From: Yaser Doleh Message-Id: <199511012316.SAA13023@mail.palnet.com> Subject: Re: Known working DAT drives To: lyndon@orthanc.com Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:16:51 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199511012225.OAA25019@multivac.orthanc.com> from "Lyndon Nerenberg VE7TCP" at Nov 1, 95 02:25:58 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 823 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have a DAT drive that says SUN 5GB on the outside box. The machine reports the following Oct 28 18:07:55 hanina /kernel: (aic0:3:0): "ARCHIVE 4326XX 27871-XXX 494A" type 1 removable SCSI 2 The drive has been working without any problems for over a year. I used it with 1.1.5, 2.0.5 and right now I am running FreeBSD-current controller is AHA1522 Lyndon Nerenberg VE7TCP said in a letter > > After endless frustration trying to get a Conner CTMS drive working > under 2.0.5 and 2.1-X I'm advising the customer to pitch the > current drive and install a DAT instead. I'm curious to here from > anyone who has a DAT drive running, specifically the manufacturer, > model number, SCSI controller, and FreeBSD release you're running > under. > > Thanks, > > --lyndon > Very truly yours Yaser Doleh doleh@alquds.org From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Nov 1 18:13:55 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id SAA06619 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:13:55 -0800 Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca (cicerone.uunet.ca [142.77.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA06596 ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:13:48 -0800 Received: from why ([142.77.242.18]) by cicerone.uunet.ca with SMTP id <171045-3>; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 21:13:50 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 21:13:43 -0500 From: Andrew Herdman X-Sender: andrew@why To: Lyndon Nerenberg VE7TCP cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Known working DAT drives In-Reply-To: <199511012225.OAA25019@multivac.orthanc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > After endless frustration trying to get a Conner CTMS drive working > under 2.0.5 and 2.1-X I'm advising the customer to pitch the > current drive and install a DAT instead. I'm curious to here from > anyone who has a DAT drive running, specifically the manufacturer, > model number, SCSI controller, and FreeBSD release you're running > under. > > Thanks, I'm using an Archive Python 2 GB 4mm dat. I've used it with both a Buslogics 946c and an adaptec 1542cf, both freebsd 2.0 and 2.0.5. Andrew From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Nov 1 19:01:40 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id TAA08492 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 19:01:40 -0800 Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA08485 ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 19:01:28 -0800 Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA08209; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:32:05 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199511020302.NAA08209@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Help, my sanity is gradually slipping awaaaayyy. was Re: Problem With Fujitsu SCSI Drive (Messages and Test Results)] To: phil@zipmail.co.uk Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:32:05 +1030 (CST) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3097E7F6.41C67EA6@FreeBSD.org> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Nov 1, 95 01:34:46 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 3559 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Jordan K. Hubbard stands accused of saying: > >>I am trying to set up FBSD 2.0.5R on a system with an Adaptec AHA1542B > >>and a Fujitsu M2694ESA 1GB SCSI-2 Drive. Check your cables and termination! It's possible you have one of the over-enthusiastic 1542's; also bring all of the jumper-selectable timings back to the slowest possible settings. > >sd0(aha0:0:0): HARDWARE FAILURE asc: 44,a2, FAILURE > >sd0(aha0:0:0): HARDWARE FAILURE asc: 44,a2, Retries = x > >sd0(aha0:0:0): HARDWARE FAILURE info: 2d18 asc 15,1 Mechanical > >positioning error sks(80,f) > >sd0(aha0:0:0): HARDWARE FAILURE info: 1d70 asc 15,1 Mechanical > >positioning error sks(80,f) > >vm_page : pager input (probably hardware) error, PID 11 failure If you get this consistently, I would still be suspicious of the drive. If it _is_ a translation error, there's a bug in the drive firmware if it's accepting a request to process a block outside the size of the drive 8) > By the way why does the ST02 floppy controller boot a 144 dos boot > disk but not a FBSD boot disk (it reboots the machine). The ST02 driver is a bit flaky. I can't blame it, to be honest 8) > Anyway back to the plot. > > First I installed Novell 3.12 on the drive. It worked like a dream, I > connected into it from another machine and was shooting around 50MB > files with ease. > NO DRIVE ERRORS Not pushing it very hard there. > Tried FBSD 2.0.5R a few times with various settings etc. > DRIVE ERRORS What are you doing when it fails? > I then thought what about another UN*X, I installed SCO 3.2v4.2 8-( It > installed seemlessly (for a change) and I could not make it error even > by repeatedly turning it off while copying multi 50MB files between > filesystems. Each time fsck just sorted out and I got a prompt... > NO DRIVE ERRORS Can you boot it verbosely and see what it's setting the 1542 to? I don't know enough about SCO's boot process 8( > Right, what about that MCC Linux v1.0 dist on my fileserver, I > installed that (eventually) and up it came, copied 50MB files between > filesystems, turned it off, let it fill up /usr by growing a file by > piping it, and guess what, > NO DRIVE ERRORS Bingo. Get into the source of the Linux driver and see what it's doing as far as the bus on/off times &c. > If anyone but anyone has seen this, or used this configuration > successfully PLEASE let me know. I don't understand why every other OS > other than FBSD works... I might give NetBSD a try as it is about the > only one I haven't (or at least it seems like it). > > Every other machine that I have running FBSD works perfectly so what > is the difference ?????? > > As I am now babbling incoherantly I shall go........ You're on the money, it may just be that you don't have enough history with those damned 1542's. If you can, check with Adaptec for details - there was a batch (either B's or C's, I can't recall) that slewed the bus way too hard. One workaround for these is, IIRC, to slow the board down. Adaptec should be able to tell you whether your 1542 is one of the culprits. > Phil > > > > -----------------------------140730798114994776041470031863-- > > -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] My car has "demand start" -Terry Lambert UNIX: live FreeBSD or die! [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Nov 1 21:17:09 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id VAA14526 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 21:17:09 -0800 Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au (pp@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au [130.102.2.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id VAA14511 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 21:17:02 -0800 Received: from cc.uq.oz.au by bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au id <09999-0@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au>; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:16:08 +1000 Received: from netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au by pandora.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.10/DEVETIR-E0.3a) with ESMTP id OAA24054 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 14:53:07 +1000 Received: from localhost by netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.8.1/DEVETIR-0.1) id EAA20918 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 04:54:04 GMT Message-Id: <199511020454.EAA20918@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.4 10/10/95 To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Jumper settings for old 1542B X-Face: 3}heU+2?b->-GSF-G4T4>jEB9~FR(V9lo&o>kAy=Pj&;oVOc<|pr%I/VSG"ZD32J>5gGC0N 7gj]^GI@M:LlqNd]|(2OxOxy@$6@/!,";-!OlucF^=jq8s57$%qXd/ieC8DhWmIy@J1AcnvSGV\|*! >Bvu7+0h4zCY^]{AxXKsDTlgA2m]fX$W@'8ev-Qi+-;%L'CcZ'NBL!@n?}q!M&Em3*eW7,093nOeV8 M)(u+6D;%B7j\XA/9j4!Gj~&jYzflG[#)E9sI&Xe9~y~Gn%fA7>F:YKr"Wx4cZU*6{^2ocZ!YyR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 02 Nov 1995 14:54:04 +1000 From: Stephen Hocking Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk An old 1542B has fallen into my hands - it's so old it does not have dip switches, but those accursed jumpers. Does anyone have the doco that tells me what each of the jumpers does? Stephen -- I do not speak for the Worker's Compensation Board of Queensland - They don't pay me enough for that! From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Nov 1 21:34:53 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id VAA15232 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 21:34:53 -0800 Received: from aslan.cdrom.com (aslan.cdrom.com [192.216.223.142]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA15227 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 21:34:51 -0800 Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA01998; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 21:54:49 -0800 Message-Id: <199511020554.VAA01998@aslan.cdrom.com> X-Authentication-Warning: aslan.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: Stephen Hocking cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Jumper settings for old 1542B In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 02 Nov 1995 14:54:04 +1000." <199511020454.EAA20918@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> Date: Wed, 01 Nov 1995 21:54:48 -0800 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >An old 1542B has fallen into my hands - it's so old it does not have dip >switches, but those accursed jumpers. Does anyone have the doco that tells me >what each of the jumpers does? > I think there is an ascii version of the manaul for that board on gatekeeper.dec.com. I don't recall the exact directory, but it was something like vendors\adaptec. > > Stephen >-- > > I do not speak for the Worker's Compensation Board of Queensland - > They don't pay me enough for that! > > -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== Software Developer - Walnut Creek CDROM FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Nov 1 21:42:40 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id VAA15507 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 21:42:40 -0800 Received: from virginia.edu (uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id VAA15502 ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 21:42:37 -0800 Received: from server.cs.virginia.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa29920; 2 Nov 95 0:42 EST Received: from cobra.cs.Virginia.EDU (cobra-fo.cs.Virginia.EDU) by uvacs.cs.virginia.edu (4.1/5.1.UVA) id AA19346; Thu, 2 Nov 95 00:42:29 EST Posted-Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 00:42:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by cobra.cs.Virginia.EDU (5.x/SMI-2.0) id AA11912; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 00:42:29 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 00:42:28 -0500 (EST) From: "Adrian T. Filipi-Martin" Reply-To: adrian@virginia.edu To: Yaser Doleh Cc: lyndon@orthanc.com, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Known working DAT drives In-Reply-To: <199511012316.SAA13023@mail.palnet.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Lyndon Nerenberg VE7TCP said in a letter > > > > After endless frustration trying to get a Conner CTMS drive working > > under 2.0.5 and 2.1-X I'm advising the customer to pitch the > > current drive and install a DAT instead. I'm curious to here from > > anyone who has a DAT drive running, specifically the manufacturer, > > model number, SCSI controller, and FreeBSD release you're running > > under. > > > > Thanks, > > > > --lyndon > > I've had great results with both HP and DEC DAT drives. Sorry, but I don't have one in front of me to read off a model number, but the HP ones are fairly common and very nice. The basic one is about $900-100 and the one with hardware compression is about $1300. cheers, Adrian adrian@virginia.edu ---->>>>| Support your local programmer, http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~atf3r/ --->>>| STOP Software Patent Abuses NOW! Member: The League for -->>| For an application and information Programming Freedom ->| see: http://www.lpf.org/ From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Nov 1 23:38:36 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id XAA19680 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 23:38:36 -0800 Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA19672 ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 23:38:27 -0800 Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id IAA13693 ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 08:37:08 +0100 Received: from (uucp@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with UUCP id IAA20336 ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 08:37:07 +0100 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.7.1/keltia-uucp-2.6) id IAA19438; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 08:31:32 +0100 (MET) From: Ollivier Robert Message-Id: <199511020731.IAA19438@keltia.freenix.fr> Subject: Re: Known working DAT drives To: andrew@whine.com (Andrew Herdman) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 08:31:32 +0100 (MET) Cc: lyndon@orthanc.com, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Andrew Herdman" at Nov 1, 95 09:13:43 pm X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT ctm#1275 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk It seems that Andrew Herdman said: > I'm using an Archive Python 2 GB 4mm dat. I've used it with both a > Buslogics 946c and an adaptec 1542cf, both freebsd 2.0 and 2.0.5. HP SureTape 5000 on AHA-1740A and BT-747S under 2.0..2.2-CURRENT. 2 GB + hardware compression. Works like a charm. (ahb0:5:0): "HP HP35480A 1009" type 1 removable SCSI 2 st0(ahb0:5:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x13, drive empty -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.frmug.fr.net FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #5: Mon Oct 30 00:03:29 MET 1995 From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Nov 2 00:50:06 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id AAA22084 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 00:50:06 -0800 Received: from pegasus.com (pegasus.com [140.174.243.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA22079 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 00:50:03 -0800 Received: by pegasus.com (8.6.8/PEGASUS-2.2) id WAA13274; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 22:49:16 -1000 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 22:49:16 -1000 From: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) Message-Id: <199511020849.WAA13274@pegasus.com> In-Reply-To: "Justin T. Gibbs" "Re: Jumper settings for old 1542B" (Nov 1, 9:54pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: "Justin T. Gibbs" , Stephen Hocking Subject: Re: Jumper settings for old 1542B Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk } I think there is an ascii version of the manaul for that board on } gatekeeper.dec.com. I don't recall the exact directory, but it } was something like vendors\adaptec. } Try: gatekeeper.dec.com:/pub/micro/adaptec From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Nov 2 02:27:42 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id CAA25421 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 02:27:42 -0800 Received: from ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE [160.45.24.21]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id CAA25339 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 02:21:48 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from julia.physik.fu-berlin.de (130.133.3.235) with smtp id ; Thu, 2 Nov 95 11:20 MET Received: (from graichen@localhost) by julia.physik.fu-berlin.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA05090; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:20:02 +0100 From: Thomas Graichen Message-Id: <199511021020.LAA05090@julia.physik.fu-berlin.de> Subject: which eprom for netbooting ? To: wpaul@freefall.freebsd.org (Bill Paul), freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:20:01 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199509141238.FAA09008@freefall.freebsd.org> from "Bill Paul" at Sep 14, 95 05:38:18 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 820 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk hello can someone please tell me which type of eprom i need for: * a smc elite 16 plus and/or * a smc elite 16 ultra i've no documentation here available and want to burn the FreeBSD netboot code into an eprom but i don't know into which type - can anybody here help me out many thanks in advance - t _______________________________________________________||_____________________ __|| Perfection is reached, not when there is no __|| thomas graichen longer anything to add, but when there __|| freie universitaet berlin is no longer anything to take away __|| fachbereich physik __|| - Antoine de Saint-Exupery - __|| ___________________________||____email: graichen@omega.physik.fu-berlin.de____ From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Nov 2 03:26:37 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA26748 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 03:26:37 -0800 Received: from hda.com (hda.com [199.232.40.182]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA26737 ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 03:26:29 -0800 Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id GAA25770; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 06:31:04 -0500 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199511021131.GAA25770@hda.com> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Help, my sanity is gradually slipping awaaaayyy. was Re: Problem With Fujitsu SCSI Drive (Messages and Test Results)] To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 06:31:03 -0500 (EST) Cc: phil@zipmail.co.uk, hackers@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199511020302.NAA08209@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at Nov 2, 95 01:32:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1646 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > Jordan K. Hubbard stands accused of saying: > > Check your cables and termination! > It's possible you have one of the over-enthusiastic 1542's; also bring all > of the jumper-selectable timings back to the slowest possible settings. The over-enthusiastic 1542's were early 1542Cs. I think they slowed down the REQ/ACK edges. They claim they are within spec and with proper impedance cables you won't have problems even with one of these aggressive boards. Cable issues, though, will typically lead to parity problems, hung SCSI busses, complaints of unexpected bus phases etc. and not reproducible hardware failures on one of the targets. > > >sd0(aha0:0:0): HARDWARE FAILURE asc: 44,a2, FAILURE > > >sd0(aha0:0:0): HARDWARE FAILURE asc: 44,a2, Retries = x > > >sd0(aha0:0:0): HARDWARE FAILURE info: 2d18 asc 15,1 Mechanical > > >positioning error sks(80,f) > > >sd0(aha0:0:0): HARDWARE FAILURE info: 1d70 asc 15,1 Mechanical > > >positioning error sks(80,f) > > >vm_page : pager input (probably hardware) error, PID 11 failure > > If you get this consistently, I would still be suspicious of the drive. > If it _is_ a translation error, there's a bug in the drive firmware if > it's accepting a request to process a block outside the size of the drive 8) Can you boot FreeBSD without the SCSI drive and then exercise the SCSI system through the raw device? That should make things a lot clearer if it still fails. Try various block sizes up to 64k. (...) -- Peter Dufault Real Time Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 dufault@hda.com Fax: 508 433 5267 From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Nov 2 04:12:11 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id EAA28443 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 04:12:11 -0800 Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA28438 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 04:12:06 -0800 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA15737; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:11:46 +0100 Message-Id: <199511021211.NAA15737@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: which eprom for netbooting ? To: graichen@omega.physik.fu-berlin.de (Thomas Graichen) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:11:45 +0100 (MET) Cc: wpaul@freefall.freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199511021020.LAA05090@julia.physik.fu-berlin.de> from "Thomas Graichen" at Nov 2, 95 11:20:01 am From: Christoph Kukulies Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1029 Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > hello > > can someone please tell me which type of eprom i need for: > > * a smc elite 16 plus and/or > * a smc elite 16 ultra I'm using a 27C128 on a WD8003EBT and I think this should be the same for the Elite Ultra series. > > i've no documentation here available and want to burn the FreeBSD netboot code > into an eprom but i don't know into which type - can anybody here help me out > > many thanks in advance - t > _______________________________________________________||_____________________ > __|| > Perfection is reached, not when there is no __|| thomas graichen > longer anything to add, but when there __|| freie universitaet berlin > is no longer anything to take away __|| fachbereich physik > __|| > - Antoine de Saint-Exupery - __|| > ___________________________||____email: graichen@omega.physik.fu-berlin.de____ > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Nov 2 04:59:23 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id EAA29623 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 04:59:23 -0800 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA29618 ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 04:59:22 -0800 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id EAA25056; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 04:57:45 -0800 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199511021257.EAA25056@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Help, my sanity is gradually slipping awaaaayyy. was Re: Problem With Fujitsu SCSI Drive (Messages and Test Results)] To: dufault@hda.com (Peter Dufault) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 04:57:45 -0800 (PST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, phil@zipmail.co.uk, hackers@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199511021131.GAA25770@hda.com> from "Peter Dufault" at Nov 2, 95 06:31:03 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1785 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I already suggested the same, but have heard nothing.. > > > > > Jordan K. Hubbard stands accused of saying: > > > > Check your cables and termination! > > It's possible you have one of the over-enthusiastic 1542's; also bring all > > of the jumper-selectable timings back to the slowest possible settings. > > The over-enthusiastic 1542's were early 1542Cs. I think they > slowed down the REQ/ACK edges. They claim they are within spec > and with proper impedance cables you won't have problems even > with one of these aggressive boards. Cable issues, though, will > typically lead to parity problems, hung SCSI busses, complaints > of unexpected bus phases etc. and not > reproducible hardware failures on one of the targets. > > > > >sd0(aha0:0:0): HARDWARE FAILURE asc: 44,a2, FAILURE > > > >sd0(aha0:0:0): HARDWARE FAILURE asc: 44,a2, Retries = x > > > >sd0(aha0:0:0): HARDWARE FAILURE info: 2d18 asc 15,1 Mechanical > > > >positioning error sks(80,f) > > > >sd0(aha0:0:0): HARDWARE FAILURE info: 1d70 asc 15,1 Mechanical > > > >positioning error sks(80,f) > > > >vm_page : pager input (probably hardware) error, PID 11 failure > > > > If you get this consistently, I would still be suspicious of the drive. > > If it _is_ a translation error, there's a bug in the drive firmware if > > it's accepting a request to process a block outside the size of the drive 8) > > Can you boot FreeBSD without the SCSI drive and then exercise the > SCSI system through the raw device? That should make things a lot > clearer if it still fails. Try various block sizes up to 64k. > > (...) > > -- > > Peter Dufault Real Time Machine Control and Simulation > HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 > dufault@hda.com Fax: 508 433 5267 > From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Nov 2 11:41:31 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA12897 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:41:31 -0800 Received: from relay.hp.com (relay.hp.com [15.255.152.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA12881 ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:41:13 -0800 Received: from srmail.sr.hp.com by relay.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA185911267; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:41:08 -0800 Received: from hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com by srmail.sr.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA234631266; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:41:06 -0800 Received: from mina.sr.hp.com by hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA297181265; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:41:05 -0800 Message-Id: <199511021941.AA297181265@hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com> To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Known working DAT drives In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 01 Nov 1995 14:25:58 PST." <199511012225.OAA25019@multivac.orthanc.com> Date: Thu, 02 Nov 1995 11:41:04 -0800 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Lyndon Nerenberg VE7TCP wrote: > After endless frustration trying to get a Conner CTMS drive working > under 2.0.5 and 2.1-X I'm advising the customer to pitch the > current drive and install a DAT instead. I'm curious to here from > anyone who has a DAT drive running, specifically the manufacturer, > model number, SCSI controller, and FreeBSD release you're running > under. How about if people posted info on DAT drives that *DO NOT* work with FreeBSD. All DAT drives that I know about will work with FreeBSD, but I imagine that there's some obscure drive out there that won't. -- Darryl Okahata Internet: darrylo@sr.hp.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion or policy of Hewlett-Packard or of the little green men that have been following him all day. From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Nov 2 22:11:02 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id WAA20175 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 22:11:02 -0800 Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au (pp@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au [130.102.2.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id WAA20155 for ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 22:10:47 -0800 Received: from cc.uq.oz.au by bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au id <20926-0@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au>; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 16:10:19 +1000 Received: from netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au by pandora.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.10/DEVETIR-E0.3a) with ESMTP id QAA19575 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 16:15:07 +1000 Received: from localhost by netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.8.1/DEVETIR-0.1) id GAA27814 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 06:16:12 GMT Message-Id: <199511030616.GAA27814@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.4 10/10/95 To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Thanks to all! (was "Jumper settings for old 1542B") X-Face: 3}heU+2?b->-GSF-G4T4>jEB9~FR(V9lo&o>kAy=Pj&;oVOc<|pr%I/VSG"ZD32J>5gGC0N 7gj]^GI@M:LlqNd]|(2OxOxy@$6@/!,";-!OlucF^=jq8s57$%qXd/ieC8DhWmIy@J1AcnvSGV\|*! >Bvu7+0h4zCY^]{AxXKsDTlgA2m]fX$W@'8ev-Qi+-;%L'CcZ'NBL!@n?}q!M&Em3*eW7,093nOeV8 M)(u+6D;%B7j\XA/9j4!Gj~&jYzflG[#)E9sI&Xe9~y~Gn%fA7>F:YKr"Wx4cZU*6{^2ocZ!YyR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 16:16:12 +1000 From: Stephen Hocking Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I was swamped with speedy replies - thank you all very much. The boqard is now running fine. The IO load that used to cause 100% CPU usage on a Future Domain TMC-885 SCSI controller now only causes 20%. Makes me wonder what a PCI m'board with an NCR controller would be like..... Stephen -- I do not speak for the Worker's Compensation Board of Queensland - They don't pay me enough for that! From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Nov 3 02:04:49 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id CAA03260 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 02:04:49 -0800 Received: from eros.library.csusb.edu (eros.library.csusb.edu [139.182.195.200]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA03255 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 02:04:46 -0800 Received: (from nwestfal@localhost) by eros.library.csusb.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id BAA02349; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 01:56:34 -0800 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 01:56:31 -0800 (PST) From: "Neal E. Westfall" To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: 3COM 590 support Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Is there driver support for the 3C590 EtherLink PCI card under FreeBSD? If so, which driver is it? Thanks Neal Westfall nwestfal@eros.library.csusb.edu From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Nov 3 03:14:53 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id DAA05832 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 03:14:53 -0800 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA05825 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 03:14:49 -0800 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.50]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id DAA04069; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 03:14:48 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA00323; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 03:14:17 -0800 Message-Id: <199511031114.DAA00323@corbin.Root.COM> To: "Neal E. Westfall" cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3COM 590 support In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 03 Nov 95 01:56:31 PST." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 03:13:56 -0800 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >Is there driver support for the 3C590 EtherLink PCI card under >FreeBSD? If so, which driver is it? It was just brought into -current a few days ago as the "vx" driver. See /sys/pci/if_vx.c. -DG From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Nov 3 04:56:06 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id EAA10256 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 04:56:06 -0800 Received: from ix5.ix.netcom.com (ix5.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA10239 ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 04:56:02 -0800 Received: from ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov by ix5.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id EAA03553; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 04:55:29 -0800 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 08:04:18 -0800 (PST) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: d_burr@ncc-1701-d.starfleet.gov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Subject: Questions -- using IDE with SCSI, and how to add more swap space? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk NOTE: the From/Reply-To headers may be incorrect on this message, since I'm posting from my freebsd box. Please reply to this message by sending it to d_burr@ix.netcom.com Thanks. I discovered, last night, that I made a *BIG* goof when initially setting up my FreeBSD slices quite a few months ago. I discovered this when I tried running XFree86 last night, and got "insufficient memory". I checked my slice setup, and found that (ARGH!) I only allocated a 10 MB (or so) swap partition. Not enough, apparently. I really would rather not tear apart my whole drive, and have to set everything back up again. So, looking around, I found a nice Seagate 150MB IDE drive lying around. I plugged it in, and, lo and behold, IT WORKS!!! So I figure, why not use this drive for FreeBSD stuff only? I could allocate a nice 50 MB or so swap, and use the rest for archival storage, /home accounts, whatever. But, my problem is this: My computer is entirely SCSI-based. My one main hard drive is a 1.0 GB SCSI drive, driven by a Adaptec 1542CF controller. No IDE in my system whatsoever. I do, however, have a spare IDE card lying about, that I can configure via jumpers. It allows me to use either the Primary or Secondary IRQ address for IDE. Wow, hey, I heard of this, because those people who can't afford SCSI use secondary IDE to be able to squeeze 4 HD's into their computer case. Now, my problem is this: I heard that you can have both IDE and SCSI in the same system, but if you do, the computer will *ALWAYS* boot from the IDE. This is not what I want, since this would complicate things. BUT... maybe the system only tries booting from the PRIMARY IDE, and leaves the secondary (if it's even there) alone. I don't know. In fact, I don't even know if you can use a Secondary IDE drive in a system WITHOUT a PRIMARY one... I admit that I'm totally clueless about this secondary IDE business. I've never had to use it, and now that I have SCSI, I vowed never to touch IDE again in my life. But, for this, I'll make an exception. If anyone can please help me out, and answer some of my questions, I would be eternally grateful. Please contact me by EMail or whatever. PS I did look around in lots of different FAQs, but honesty could not find the answers I seek. Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 TEL (805)564-1871 // FAX 564-2315 // WWW http://www.physics.ucsb.edu/~dburr PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or Public Key Servers. ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Nov 3 05:34:35 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id FAA11673 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 05:34:35 -0800 Received: from kryten.atinc.com (kryten.Atinc.COM [198.138.38.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA11667 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 05:34:29 -0800 Received: (jmb@localhost) by kryten.atinc.com (8.6.9/8.3) id IAA07983; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 08:21:16 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 08:21:10 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: Thanks to all! (was "Jumper settings for old 1542B") To: Stephen Hocking cc: hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199511030616.GAA27814@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 3 Nov 1995, Stephen Hocking wrote: > I was swamped with speedy replies - thank you all very much. The boqard is now > running fine. The IO load that used to cause 100% CPU usage on a Future Domain > TMC-885 SCSI controller now only causes 20%. Makes me wonder what a PCI > m'board with an NCR controller would be like..... it would be GOOD! jordan recently posted make work numbers for at 586 133MHz running stable....took about 13,000 seconds. on my 486dx66 asus sp3g set to write-back cache protocol, 256kB cache 8MB memory (yes only 8 ;(( ), ncr53c810 pci scsi, fujitsu 1606S 1GB drive (512kB cache)....i get 27,000 seconds. (THANK YOU ROD!) so double the clock and double the processor--gets you DOUBLE the speed. ONLY. jordan how about some details on that 586 133MHz system. seems that it order for performance increase is still: disk, memory, processor Jonathan M. Bresler jmb@kryten.atinc.com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.Org | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346 From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Nov 3 05:56:59 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id FAA12344 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 05:56:59 -0800 Received: from tfs.com (tfs.com [140.145.250.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id FAA12339 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 05:56:57 -0800 Received: from critter.tfs.com by tfs.com (smail3.1.28.1) with SMTP id m0tBMbt-0003x9C; Fri, 3 Nov 95 05:56 PST Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA02623; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:56:41 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: critter.tfs.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: Stephen Hocking , hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thanks to all! (was "Jumper settings for old 1542B") In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 03 Nov 1995 08:21:10 EST." Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 14:56:41 +0100 Message-ID: <2621.815407001@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > jordan how about some details on that 586 133MHz system. I have a 133 too. I can make world in about the same time as my handbook takes to make two kernels :-) (I guess we should allow Rod to advertise with "Recommended by a lot of FreeBSD core team members" :-) I don't think you gain that much going from a 100 to a 133 pentium, unless you use -O2. Another way to speed up is to use "mount -o async" but the penalty for a crash is high. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Nov 3 06:14:48 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id GAA12839 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 06:14:48 -0800 Received: from ns0.netcraft.co.uk (ns0.netcraft.co.uk [194.72.238.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA12821 ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 06:14:40 -0800 Received: (from paul@localhost) by ns0.netcraft.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA14376; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:13:22 GMT From: Paul Richards Message-Id: <199511031413.OAA14376@ns0.netcraft.co.uk> Subject: Re: Questions -- using IDE with SCSI, and how to add more swap space? To: d_burr@ix.netcom.com (Donald Burr) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:13:22 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Donald Burr" at Nov 3, 95 08:04:18 am Reply-to: paul@netcraft.co.uk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1388 Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Donald Burr who said > > Now, my problem is this: I heard that you can have both IDE and SCSI in > the same system, but if you do, the computer will *ALWAYS* boot from the > IDE. This is not what I want, since this would complicate things. > BUT... maybe the system only tries booting from the PRIMARY IDE, and > leaves the secondary (if it's even there) alone. I don't know. Takes some fiddling but there's a few ways you can work around this. If you're lucky, you can tell the bios that there are no IDE drives installed. It will then boot from the scsi disk and FreeBSD will find the IDE controller and disk from it's own probes. This should work fine for you since it's an external card. > In fact, I don't even know if you can use a Secondary IDE drive in a > system WITHOUT a PRIMARY one... Set it up as a primary. If that doesn't work (I has an on-board IDE controller on one box and the only way to disable the IDE boot was to disable the controller, FreeBSD didn't re-enable it) then an alternative is to install a BIOS boot block on the IDE drive that loads the FreeBSD boot code from the SCSI. The only time you touch the IDE is to load that initial boot block, everything else will run off the SCSI. -- Paul Richards, Netcraft Ltd. Internet: paul@netcraft.co.uk, http://www.netcraft.co.uk Phone: 0370 462071 (Mobile), +44 1225 447500 (work) From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Nov 3 06:52:01 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id GAA13584 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 06:52:01 -0800 Received: from tfs.com (tfs.com [140.145.250.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA13572 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 06:51:59 -0800 Received: from critter.tfs.com by tfs.com (smail3.1.28.1) with SMTP id m0tBNTJ-0003whC; Fri, 3 Nov 95 06:51 PST Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA02825; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 15:51:58 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: critter.tfs.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: "Russell L. Carter" cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PCMCIA chipset In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 01 Nov 1995 09:37:41 PST." <199511011737.JAA07737@geli.clusternet> Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 15:51:58 +0100 Message-ID: <2823.815410318@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi Russel, Try this: add controller crd0 controller pcic0 at crd? to your kernel. Then plug in your card cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/pccard/pccardc make ./pccardc dumpcis and email me the output... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Nov 3 08:51:50 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA17752 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 08:51:50 -0800 Received: from thing.sunquest.com (thing.Sunquest.COM [149.138.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA17738 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 08:51:40 -0800 Received: by thing.sunquest.com; id AA07348; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:49:52 -0700 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:49:52 -0700 From: Tony Jones Message-Id: <9511031649.AA07348@thing.sunquest.com> To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: probe/npx0 question Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Anyone worked with FreeBSD (2.0.5) on DEC hardware (Venturis 466 DX2/66) ? The boot floppy hangs while probing npx0 (config shows probe is to IRQ13, port 0xf0 - which matches what the DOS diags think the cpu is on) Disabling the probe gets the system to boot into installation mode, but the system panics when trying to do the ftp install (at the 'route add') If anyone has any advice, I'd appreciate hearing it. thanks! tony From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Nov 3 09:02:10 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id JAA18343 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:02:10 -0800 Received: from gold.interlog.com (gold.interlog.com [198.53.145.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA18337 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:02:05 -0800 Received: from lotbiniere.interlog.com (lotbiniere.interlog.com [198.53.146.76]) by gold.interlog.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with ESMTP id MAA02704; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 12:01:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lotbiniere.interlog.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA01266; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 12:07:40 -0500 Message-Id: <199511031707.MAA01266@lotbiniere.interlog.com> X-Authentication-Warning: lotbiniere.interlog.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol From: "Michel Joly de Lotbiniere" Reply-to: "Michel Joly de Lotbiniere" To: Darryl Okahata Subject: Re: Known working DAT drives cc: hardware@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Message from Darryl Okahata of "Thu, 02 Nov 1995 11:41:04 PST." <199511021941.AA297181265@hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com> Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 12:07:38 -0500 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Darryl, I'm in the process of selecting some kind of reasonably priced SCSI-2 backup drive for my 1GB disk (o.k., that's a bit of a joke); it seems I have the choice of three different media for 1-2GB tape capacity: 1/4 inch tape (QIC 1000,2000) e.g. Tandberg Sony minitape (QIC3080) e.g. Conner, Tandberg Low end DAT (1-2GB) e.g. HP, Conner Since these are expensive devices, reliability and lack of problems over the long haul (e.g. alignment) are a major concern. I've seen earlier, lower capacity drives from Tandberg: really solid construction, and the 1/4 inch tape mechanism seems relatively simple, so probably reliable. I've not examined any of the other two types. DAT seems very attractive, with low priced media, small media storage requirements, high backup speeds, but I'm not sure of long term reliability, since this technology is far more complex mechanically than any of the others (it is, after all, an audio recording format). Also, given the fact that DAT tapes have about 1/3 of their capacity taken up by ECC (versus less than half that by other formats), what are people's experiences of the "backup that failed to restore correctly" and similar disasters with DAT? You're welcome to send me e-mail directly; I'll summarize if the response warrants it -- remove the cc: hardware@freebsd.org in that case. Regards, ========================= Michel Joly de Lotbiniere mjdl@interlog.com ========================= From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Nov 3 11:25:11 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA24713 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 11:25:11 -0800 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA24695 ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 11:25:06 -0800 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA28020; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 11:24:37 -0800 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199511031924.LAA28020@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: Questions -- using IDE with SCSI, and how to add more swap space? To: d_burr@ix.netcom.com (Donald Burr) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 11:24:36 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Donald Burr" at Nov 3, 95 08:04:18 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1219 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > The simpel answer is: (drum roll) DON'T TELL THE BIOS ABOUT THE IDE DRIVE then it'll just ignore it.. (of course if you allow it to do an 'auto configure' on a new machine it'll find it, but who trusts computers?) > Now, my problem is this: I heard that you can have both IDE and SCSI in > the same system, but if you do, the computer will *ALWAYS* boot from the > IDE. This is not what I want, since this would complicate things. > BUT... maybe the system only tries booting from the PRIMARY IDE, and > leaves the secondary (if it's even there) alone. I don't know. > > Donald Burr [d_burr@ix.netcom.com], PO Box 91212, Santa Barbara CA 93190-1212 > TEL (805)564-1871 // FAX 564-2315 // WWW http://www.physics.ucsb.edu/~dburr > PGP Public Key available by request (send e-mail) or Public Key Servers. > ** Uphold your right to privacy - Use PGP. ** > > +----------------------------------+ ______ _ __ | __--_|\ Julian Elischer | \ U \/ / On assignment | / \ julian@ref.tfs.com +------>x USA \ in a very strange | ( OZ ) 300 lakeside Dr. oakland CA. \___ ___ | country ! +- X_.---._/ USA+(510) 645-3137(wk) \_/ \\ v From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Nov 3 13:02:14 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id NAA00575 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 13:02:14 -0800 Received: from gemsgw.med.ge.com (gemsgw.med.ge.com [192.88.230.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA00563 for ; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 13:02:10 -0800 Received: from gemed.med.ge.com (gemed.med.ge.com [3.7.12.4]) by gemsgw.med.ge.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA28135; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 15:00:57 -0600 Received: from sol.sol.med.ge.com (sol-gw [3.28.124.2]) by gemed.med.ge.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA29821; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 15:00:22 -0600 Received: from merak.med.ge.com by sol.sol.med.ge.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22508; Fri, 3 Nov 95 15:00:39 CST From: laufen@sol (Derek Laufenberg x7-4534) Received: by merak.med.ge.com (4.1/client-1.3) id AA18493; Fri, 3 Nov 95 15:00:37 CST Date: Fri, 3 Nov 95 15:00:37 CST Message-Id: <9511032100.AA18493@merak.med.ge.com> To: hardware@freebsd.org, phk@critter.tfs.com Subject: Re: How to get pccard, pcmcia working: Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello Poul-Henning, I finally got 2.1-snap(10/26) last night and tried to follow the instructions you gave me a few weeks ago. I ran into a few problems. There wasn't a pcic directory in the /usr/src/lkm tree. Also I couldn't find pccard.conf or pccardd files. Is there another tarball I need to grab with the snap shot I have? Thanks, Derek Laufenberg laufen@sol.med.ge.com > Here is the steps you need to do to get moving with the PCMCIA stuff: > > This may take some PCMCIA knowledge on your part, but give it a shot: > > 1) > add "controller crd0" > and recompile your kernel, reboot. > > 2) > cd /usr/src/lkm/pcic > (make obj) > make all install > modload -e lkm_pcic /lkm/pcic_mod.o > > 3) > cp /usr/src/etc/pccard.conf /etc > vi /etc/pccard.conf > # insert descriptions of your card in the file. (*) > > 4) > cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/pccard/pccardd > (make obj) > make > sleep 4 > ./pccardd -d > > 5) > insert your card. > > (rest deleted) From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Nov 4 07:57:40 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id HAA00457 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 07:57:40 -0800 Received: from tetsuo.communique.net (Tetsuo.Communique.Net [204.27.64.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA00448 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 07:57:34 -0800 Received: from ryu.communique.net (Ryu.Communique.Net [204.27.64.11]) by tetsuo.communique.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA28531 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 09:57:01 -0600 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 17:11:07 -0600 (CST) From: Raul Zighelboim To: hackers@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Maxtor drive: panic attack Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ReSent-Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 09:56:55 -0600 (CST) ReSent-From: Raul Zighelboim ReSent-To: hardware@freebsd.org ReSent-Message-ID: Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello; I took this Maxtor MXT540S drive of a Risc/6000 powerPC... I am try to install it on my next to be FreeBSD system. This drive has parity disable by default (and no option to turn it on). On the system, I have an adaptec SCSI card and the Maxtor drive. When booting, Freebsd (the latest SNAP) tells me: aic at line2561: unexpected busfree phase debugger("aic6360") called. panic: panic for historical reasons If I install instead a Quantum Maverick 540S drive, all goes well; of course, I would like to have both drives running. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Raul Zighelboim e-mail: mango@communique.net Communique Inc. Tel: 504.527.6200 Technical Specialist Fax: 504.527.6030 From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Nov 4 08:58:39 1995 Return-Path: owner-hardware Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) id IAA06536 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 08:58:39 -0800 Received: from panix3.panix.com (panix3.panix.com [198.7.0.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA06527 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 08:58:34 -0800 Received: (from jbrann@localhost) by panix3.panix.com (8.7/8.7/PanixU1.3) id LAA15426 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 11:58:32 -0500 (EST) From: John Brann Message-Id: <199511041658.LAA15426@panix3.panix.com> Subject: Nasty SCSI tape problem To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 11:58:32 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have a Conner CTMS tape drive. This is a SCSI device which uses high density QIC-type cartridges which hold 1.6 or 2Gb. I have an Adaptec 2940/PCI SCSI controller which runs the hard disk, tape and CDROM. The system has no IDE. I'm running 951020-SNAP. I'd like to use 'dump' to make backups, so I was experimenting with it, but having problems persuading it to store my 700Mb /usr partition on only one tape. For some reason the calculations of number of blocks / blocksize don't seem sensible. Anyway, after 'dump' told me how many tapes I was going to need, I hit CTRL-C to abort. At this point the disk light came on and the whole system gradually froze until it totally stopped. Using the reset button started up the usual BIOS boot cycle - but before the point at which the BIOS tells me that the disk drive is drive C: and proceeds to boot from it, the system hung up - the disk light flickered intermittently, but nothing else happened. After about 2 minutes I powered the system down, said a short prayer, and switched it on again. Everything came up without trouble. I should add that 'tar' works fine, easily storing the /usr partition on a single tape. I know this fits into the 'Doctor, it hurts when I do this... well don't do that then' category of problems, but I would really like to know what's going on here. Any ideas? John -- "I don't know what I want, but I want it now!" Sir Henry Rawlinson. John Brann -- jbrann@panix.com jbrann@newparadigm.com