From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 14 00:02:55 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA25582 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 May 1995 00:02:55 -0700 Received: from westhill.cdrom.com (westhill.cdrom.com [192.216.223.57]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA25576 for ; Sun, 14 May 1995 00:02:54 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by westhill.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id AAA05395 ; Sun, 14 May 1995 00:02:50 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: westhill.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: procecorjb@Vir.com (Robert Burns) cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Undefined symbol '_crypt' referenced from text segment In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 13 May 1995 23:57:17 CDT." <199505140457.XAA26250@Vir.com> Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 00:02:49 -0700 Message-ID: <5394.800434969@westhill.cdrom.com> From: Gary Palmer Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199505140457.XAA26250@Vir.com>, Robert Burns writes: >When compiling various ports i get the message: >Undefined symbol '_crypt' referenced from text segment >just before I get an ERROR. >Am I missing a link to a library? Try -lcrypt, although most ports should know this... which ones are you having problems with? Gary From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 14 07:34:15 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA14725 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 May 1995 07:34:15 -0700 Received: from trout.sri.MT.net (trout.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.12]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA14718 for ; Sun, 14 May 1995 07:34:07 -0700 Received: (from nate@localhost) by trout.sri.MT.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) id IAA23039; Sun, 14 May 1995 08:38:02 -0600 Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 08:38:02 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199505141438.IAA23039@trout.sri.MT.net> To: whedbee@ddi.digital.net Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, wmbfmk@urc.tue.nl Subject: Re: Anyone linked with Hungry ViewKit ? SOLVED ! In-Reply-To: <199505140213.WAA00222@bonkers> References: <199505140213.WAA00222@bonkers> Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I finally found out that the problem was with ranlib choking and not > producing a random library. It complained of a wrong format. So I > threw in a -T to truncate with "ar cruTv ...." and was next able to produce > a random library with ranlib. Great. > is it true you are only able to get a random library if the object names are > truncated to 15 chars or less ? This has been fixed in the -current code, and will be in 2.0.5. You should be able to use really long library names from here on out. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 14 09:08:17 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA16287 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 May 1995 09:08:17 -0700 Received: from mramirez.sy.yale.edu (mramirez.sy.yale.edu [130.132.57.207]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA16280 for ; Sun, 14 May 1995 09:08:13 -0700 Received: (from mrami@localhost) by mramirez.sy.yale.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA05914; Sun, 14 May 1995 12:08:22 -0400 Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 12:08:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Marc Ramirez Reply-To: mrami@minerva.cis.yale.edu To: Gene Stark cc: Steve Galle , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: MSDOS Partition In-Reply-To: <199505122338.TAA03714@starkhome.cs.sunysb.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 12 May 1995, Gene Stark wrote: > >You have a time bomb on your hands. Mine just blew a few days ago. The problem > >is that even though you did the fdisk and set the new partitioning, the > >disklabel is still telling dos it has the whole disk to play with. Of course, a > > Does DOS have a "disklabel"? What seems to happen is the following: > > If you use FDISK to partition your disk, and then > you format one slice under DOS, and then > you change the MBR partition table with FDISK, you leave > the DOS slice starting at the same place, but you > reduce its size, and then > you put good FreeBSD data in the area that used to be allocated > to DOS, but isn't any more, and then > you use DOS FORMAT to try to reformat the smaller slice, > > then DOS will quite happily and quickly ignore what the MBR says and > format over your good FreeBSD data. DOS will be happy iff you reformat the partition (or use a partition editor like fips). Otherwise, the FAT still believes the DOS slice extends into the FreeBSD one, and DOS will happily allocate/write blocks in your root partition... > The solution is to backup your DOS area, then use FreeBSD to write > garbage (like a copy of /kernel, or something) over the beginning of > the DOS slice so that it doesn't appear to be valid to DOS. > > Then you can reformat safely under DOS. > > - Gene Stark Marc. -- You couldn't get a clue during the clue mating season in a field full of horny clues if you smeared your body with clue musk and did the clue mating dance. - Edward Flaherty From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 14 14:44:49 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA01598 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 May 1995 14:44:49 -0700 Received: from cxc1.cl.msu.edu (cxc1.cl.msu.edu [35.8.7.5]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA01592 for ; Sun, 14 May 1995 14:44:48 -0700 Received: by cxc1.cl.msu.edu (5.64/MSU-2.07) id AA28893; Sun, 14 May 95 17:44:47 -0400 From: Dave McCluskey Message-Id: <9505142144.AA28893@cxc1.cl.msu.edu> Subject: sendmail for uucp (fwd) To: Questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 17:44:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2104 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ive seen you reply to a couple questions so i thought you might be able to help me out. I'm using FreeBSD 2.0 off the walnut creek cd Right now i have a unix box unix.flnet.com set up to recieve mail, and my provider has the mx records setup so that mail for flnet.com and cyberstation.flnet.com (same machine) are also sent to unix.flnet.com now what i need is for the mail going to flnet.com to be queued for uucp delivery. Whenever i try to send something to whover@flnet.com it comes back with user unknown. i guess because its still trying to deliver it locally to the unix.flnet.com machine. heres my .mc file ive tried a number of different things, using a mailertable, using smart_host. and i always get the same include (`../m4/cf.m4')dnl VERSIONID... OSTYPE (bsd4.4')dnl Cwflnet.com define(`confDOMAIN_NAME', `$w.$m'))dnl FEATURE('nodns') FEATURE(mailertable, dbm /etc/mailertable) EXPOSED_USER(`postmaster hostmaster webmaster') MAILER(local) MAILER(smtp) MAILER(uucp) my mailertable flnet.com uucp-dom:flnet made with makemap dbm mailertable < mailertable i also did this with the hash way neither seemed to work then thought maybe i needed to add the following becaue of the MX record LOCAL_RULE_0 R$+ < @ flnet.com > $#uucp $@ flnet $: $1 i added this right after the MAILER(local) and tried differnet variations too Im begining to get myself more confused then anything since it seems none of these work. im makeing my .cf file by m4 flnet.mc > /etc/sendmail.cf im i missing something ??? thougth maybe i had to add something like 204.176.215.10 flnet.com flnet to my /etc/hosts file that didnt work either, do i ned anything like that? mail goes out fine from uucp to unix.flnet.com and out via smtp but the incoming for flnet.com is whats screwed up. id appreciate anything you can do to clue me in, since i havent been able to provide mail to people on flnet.com since the system went up David McCluskey mcluskey@cxc1.msu.edu captbly@unix.flnet.com --- not reliable From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 14 15:01:56 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA01848 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 May 1995 15:01:56 -0700 Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA01842 for ; Sun, 14 May 1995 15:01:55 -0700 Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14409(2)>; Sun, 14 May 1995 15:01:18 PDT Received: by crevenia.parc.xerox.com id <49859>; Sun, 14 May 1995 15:01:08 -0700 From: Bill Fenner To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: pkg_add fails: Error status 1 from mtree Message-Id: <95May14.150108pdt.49859@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 15:00:58 PDT Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Two things about pkg_add: 1) I can't get it to run at all on my machine. I am running SNAP-950412 with a custom kernel and not much else. # pkg_add -v maplay-1.2.tgz Projected package size: 89640 bytes, free temp space: 91331584 bytes extract: Package name is maplay-1.2 extract: CWD to /usr/local extract: /usr/local/bin/maplay extract: CWD to . Running mtree for maplay-1.2.. mtree -u -f +MTREE_DIRS -d -e -p /usr/local usage: mtree [-cdeinrUux] [-f spec] [-K key] [-k key] [-p path] [-s seed] Error status 1 from mtree. (CWD to /usr/local) Delete: /usr/local/bin/maplay (CWD to .) 1 package addition(s) failed. 2) If I run pkg_add without -v, the error message doesn't make it clear that it actually removed the package: # pkg_add maplay-1.2.tgz usage: mtree [-cdeinrUux] [-f spec] [-K key] [-k key] [-p path] [-s seed] Error status 1 from mtree. And about pkg_maint: it doesn't handle this kind of error from pkg_add very well... I'm sure this is all caused by something odd on my system; I can't imagine what, though. Bill From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 14 16:00:39 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA03530 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 May 1995 16:00:39 -0700 Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA03524 for ; Sun, 14 May 1995 16:00:39 -0700 Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14408(6)>; Sun, 14 May 1995 16:00:02 PDT Received: by crevenia.parc.xerox.com id <49859>; Sun, 14 May 1995 15:59:56 -0700 From: Bill Fenner To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: my pkg_add questions Message-Id: <95May14.155956pdt.49859@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 15:59:47 PDT Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I replaced mtree with a script that printed out its arguments. pkg_add is calling mtree with the following arguments: -u -f +MTREE_DIRS -d -e -p /usr/local 0xf80xdb0xbf0xef No wonder mtree didn't like its arguments. Bill From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 14 17:08:09 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA07399 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 May 1995 17:08:09 -0700 Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA07391 for ; Sun, 14 May 1995 17:08:07 -0700 Received: from ipxpress.aws.waii.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP id QQyptg12550; Sun, 14 May 1995 20:08:04 -0400 Received: by ipxpress.aws.waii.com id AA11763 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for questions@freebsd.org); Sun, 14 May 1995 19:08:00 -0500 Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 19:07:59 -0500 (CDT) From: Don Dunbar To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: X & s412 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk What the hell is up with this? I can't run startx in 3.1.1 with SNAP 4/12... It gives me a libXmu.6.0: undefined error message... what the hell!? ps I finally got around to porting pine to this system so my messages shouldn't be as messy as they were b4. :-] From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 14 17:34:28 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA08410 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 May 1995 17:34:28 -0700 Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA08404 for ; Sun, 14 May 1995 17:34:25 -0700 Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin.Root.COM [198.145.90.18]) by Root.COM (8.6.8/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA02666; Sun, 14 May 1995 17:37:30 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.6.11/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA00223; Sun, 14 May 1995 17:34:26 -0700 Message-Id: <199505150034.RAA00223@corbin.Root.COM> To: Don Dunbar cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: X & s412 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 14 May 95 19:07:59 CDT." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 17:34:24 -0700 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >What the hell is up with this? >I can't run startx in 3.1.1 with SNAP 4/12... It gives me a >libXmu.6.0: undefined error message... what the hell!? > A missing libgcc.so.2.0, perhaps? 3.1.1 was compiled using the older tools and thus wants this library (which we no longer generate). The plan I last heard about this was that we are going to ship a libgcc.so.2.0 binary for compatiblity. -DG From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 14 19:47:30 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA11843 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 May 1995 19:47:30 -0700 Received: from zeta.uucp (ipdyne13.vir.com [199.202.197.13]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA11836 for ; Sun, 14 May 1995 19:47:25 -0700 Received: by zeta.uucp (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sAqBN-000025C; Sun, 14 May 95 22:46 EDT Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 22:46:57 -0400 (EDT) From: RJB X-Sender: root@zeta To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Pine, error during compilation! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I been have successfully using MH6 for retrieving mail from a pop3 host with the exception for a few minor bugs. I have re-occuring errors during compilation which prevent me from getting the full pop binary set (Missing popauth). My Pop configuration is as follows: pop on popdir /usr/local/libexec options APOP='"/etc/pop.auth"' MPOP RPOP POPSERVICE=`"pop3"` During compilation I get the following ERRORS: popser.c In function `apop` popser.c:708 'DBM_PAGFNO_NOT_AVAILABLE' undeclared popauth.c:133 (ditto) any one out there have the answers? Robert Burns (procecorjb@vir.com) mtl.,ca. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 14 22:13:11 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA16205 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 May 1995 22:13:11 -0700 Received: from cps201.cps.cmich.edu (archive@cps201.cps.cmich.edu [141.209.20.201]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA16199 ; Sun, 14 May 1995 22:13:10 -0700 Received: (from archive@localhost) by cps201.cps.cmich.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id BAA11686; Mon, 15 May 1995 01:13:00 -0400 Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 01:12:55 -0400 (EDT) From: CMU Mail Archive X-Sender: archive@cps201 Reply-To: mbailey@gnu.ai.mit.edu To: mbailey@cps.cmich.edu cc: questions@FreeBSD.org, install@FreeBSD.org Subject: 950412-SNAP Installation In-Reply-To: <9504292206.AA29120@cs.weber.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a system with an adaptec 1542CF-KIT and a 1 gig Seagate drive the machine is a P5-90 and has PCI video. I place the boot disk in the machine boots gets me to the nice curses install screen I choose option #6 and the machine hangs solid does anyone have a clue as to why this happens??? Matthew S. Bailey mbailey@cps.cmich.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 14 22:53:12 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA17651 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 May 1995 22:53:12 -0700 Received: from netcom13.netcom.com (pascal@netcom13.netcom.com [192.100.81.125]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA17645 for ; Sun, 14 May 1995 22:53:11 -0700 Received: by netcom13.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id WAA17133; Sun, 14 May 1995 22:52:51 -0700 Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 22:52:51 -0700 From: pascal@netcom.com (Richard A Childers) Message-Id: <199505150552.WAA17133@netcom13.netcom.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: a week's worth of freebsd-questions Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Kinda busy these days. Working two jobs and about to start a third. Don't have a whole lot of time to read email. Haven't read any all week. Just finished wading through 540+ messages. 500+ of them were freebsd-related. What's the status of a Digestified version of freebsd-questions and all other traffic-intensive lists ? Maybe someone could give me a login to freebsd.org so I can fix it ? Or maybe all the helpful, productive people with jobs should just unsubscribe ... and leave the rest to figure it out, themselves. I give it one more week. -- richard Good faith : see "Legal Fiction". Legal fiction : see "Good Faith". richard childers san francisco, california pascal@netcom.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 15 01:21:17 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA21528 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 May 1995 01:21:17 -0700 Received: from comsun.rz.uni-regensburg.de (comsun.rz.uni-regensburg.de [132.199.1.163]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA21521 for ; Mon, 15 May 1995 01:21:06 -0700 Received: from ngate.ngate.uni-regensburg.de (ngate.rz.uni-regensburg.de) by comsun.rz.uni-regensburg.de with SMTP id AA25001 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 15 May 1995 10:21:00 +0200 Received: from alf1.ngate.uni-regensburg.de by ngate.ngate.uni-regensburg.de; Mon, 15 May 95 09:34 GMT Received: from ALF1/MAILQUEUE by alf1.ngate.uni-regensburg.de (Mercury 1.11); Mon, 15 May 95 10:17:22 +0100 Received: from MAILQUEUE by ALF1 (Mercury 1.11); Mon, 15 May 95 10:17:05 +0100 From: "Karl-Heinz Kuhn t2150" To: FreeBSD-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 10:17:02 +0100 Subject: (Fwd) login fails with FreeBSSD1.1 (CD-ROM June 1994) Content-Length: 1051 Content-Type: text X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.11a) Message-Id: <1F67DAAF2493@alf1.ngate.uni-regensburg.de> Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: Self To: FreeBSD-quesstionss@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: login fails with FreeBSSD1.1 (CD-ROM June 1994) Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 09:57:27 Dear FreeBSD crew or Walnut Creek crew, this weekend I bought the FreeBSD 1.1 CD-ROM (June 1994). Installation on an own partition worked without any problem, however, after rebooting I was not able to login. As stated in the appropriate file on the CD-ROM I tried to login as "user" (without "") and as a password I used "root". FreeBSD's answer: login incorrect. Can you help me? (I want to use FreeBSD to become more familiar with UNIX. I thought FreeBSD would be a good and not expensive start. The computer I installed FreeBSD 1.1 does not have connection to any network.) Thank You, I am looking forward to hearing from you soon, Karl-Heinz Kuhn ****************************************************** Karl-Heinz.Kuhn@biologie.uni-regensburg.de ****************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 15 02:59:39 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id CAA24303 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 May 1995 02:59:39 -0700 Received: from narnia.hip.berkeley.edu (narnia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.57]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA24291 for ; Mon, 15 May 1995 02:59:37 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by narnia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id DAA00198; Mon, 15 May 1995 03:00:07 -0700 Message-Id: <199505151000.DAA00198@narnia.hip.berkeley.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: narnia.hip.berkeley.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: "Karl-Heinz Kuhn t2150" cc: FreeBSD-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: (Fwd) login fails with FreeBSSD1.1 (CD-ROM June 1994) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 15 May 1995 10:17:02 BST." <1F67DAAF2493@alf1.ngate.uni-regensburg.de> Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 03:00:06 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- >From: Self >To: FreeBSD-quesstionss@freefall.cdrom.com >Subject: login fails with FreeBSSD1.1 (CD-ROM June 1994) >Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 09:57:27 > >Dear FreeBSD crew or Walnut Creek crew, > >this weekend I bought the FreeBSD 1.1 CD-ROM (June 1994). >Installation on an own partition worked without any problem, >however, after rebooting I was not able to login. > >As stated in the appropriate file on the CD-ROM I tried to >login as "user" (without "") and as a password I used "root". >FreeBSD's answer: login incorrect. > >Can you help me? > >(I want to use FreeBSD to become more familiar with UNIX. >I thought FreeBSD would be a good and not expensive start. >The computer I installed FreeBSD 1.1 does not have connection >to any network.) > >Thank You, >I am looking forward to hearing from you soon, > >Karl-Heinz Kuhn > >****************************************************** >Karl-Heinz.Kuhn@biologie.uni-regensburg.de >****************************************************** Login as "root" with no password. -- Justin T. Gibbs ============================================== TCS Instructional Group - Programmer/Analyst 1 Cory | Po | Danube | Volga | Parker | Torus ============================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 15 04:06:35 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA26280 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 May 1995 04:06:35 -0700 Received: from relay3.UU.NET (relay3.UU.NET [192.48.96.8]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA26274 for ; Mon, 15 May 1995 04:06:33 -0700 Received: from ipxpress.aws.waii.com by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP id QQypuy20527; Mon, 15 May 1995 07:06:30 -0400 Received: by ipxpress.aws.waii.com id AA23199 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Mon, 15 May 1995 06:06:28 -0500 Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 06:06:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Don Dunbar To: Karl-Heinz Kuhn t2150 Cc: FreeBSD-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Re: (Fwd) login fails with FreeBSSD1.1 (CD-ROM June 1994) In-Reply-To: <1F67DAAF2493@alf1.ngate.uni-regensburg.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk --------------------- Alex 'The //Other// Enlightened One' Dunbar |||||| Son of Don --- + Tolkien + Star Wars + MST3k + eggdrop botz + TinyTIM = Fun! -- Linux sux! -- On Mon, 15 May 1995, Karl-Heinz Kuhn t2150 wrote: > this weekend I bought the FreeBSD 1.1 CD-ROM (June 1994). version 2.0.5 is almost out!! UPGRADE! The new version is 10x better!!!! > however, after rebooting I was not able to login. login as ROOT with no password and root in lowercase. > Thank You, > I am looking forward to hearing from you soon, > > Karl-Heinz Kuhn > > ****************************************************** > Karl-Heinz.Kuhn@biologie.uni-regensburg.de > ****************************************************** > From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 15 07:55:26 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA03720 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 May 1995 07:55:26 -0700 Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com (dekalb.vf.mmc.com [192.35.35.21]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA03714 for ; Mon, 15 May 1995 07:55:23 -0700 From: tucker@meadow.mdso.vf.ge.com Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id KAA03046 for ; Mon, 15 May 1995 10:55:21 -0400 Received: from ccc2.meadow.mdso.vf.ge.com ([3.9.16.2]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id KAA07540 for ; Mon, 15 May 1995 10:55:20 -0400 Received: from duke.meadow.mdso.vf.ge.com by ccc2.meadow.mdso.vf.ge.com (4.1/MMC Sun server D-3.3) id AA04288; Mon, 15 May 95 10:52:01 EDT Received: by duke.meadow.mdso.vf.ge.com (4.1/GEA Sun client 1.19B) id AA07715; Mon, 15 May 95 10:56:53 EDT Date: Mon, 15 May 95 10:56:53 EDT Message-Id: <9505151456.AA07715@duke.meadow.mdso.vf.ge.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: RPC: DOS<->FreeBSD Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Does anyone know of (preferably free) packages for DOS that support RPC?? Also, has anyone used a commercial Database package on FreeBSD? Any recommendations?? I'd like to set up a net with FreeBSD as a server providing database transactions for clients running MSWindoze. I assume that I can get this going with a little RPC programming, but any other approaches would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for any pointers!! --clark (My DOS partition keeps shrinking... Keep up the good work!!) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 15 08:09:09 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA04170 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 May 1995 08:09:09 -0700 Received: from hermes.cybernetics.net (hermes.cybernetics.net [198.80.51.103]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA04164 for ; Mon, 15 May 1995 08:09:04 -0700 Received: (from james@localhost) by hermes.cybernetics.net (8.6.8/8.6.6) id LAA02705 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 15 May 1995 11:22:52 -0400 From: James Robinson Message-Id: <199505151522.LAA02705@hermes.cybernetics.net> Subject: "who" datagram port To: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 11:22:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 588 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Why would my named be trying to contact a non-named running machine at it's 'who' port tenaciously, getting an ICMP port unreachable each time [ok -- I know why it would get the port unreachable, I'm just curious as to why he's been driven to query]. James, whose ppp line never hangs up due to this periodic query. James Robinson wholly endorses: FreeBSD | Zappa | Tull | Albermarle Ale | XFree86 | Seagull acoustic guitars | Quotes du Jour: "Little man, I give the watch to you." | "Hail Ants" From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 15 08:12:31 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA04240 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 May 1995 08:12:31 -0700 Received: from relay.philips.nl (relay.philips.nl [130.144.65.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA04234 for ; Mon, 15 May 1995 08:12:28 -0700 Received: from knox.pcec.philips.com ([130.140.74.243]) by relay.philips.nl (8.6.9/8.6.9-950414) with SMTP id RAA17789 for ; Mon, 15 May 1995 17:11:53 +0200 Received: from eis16.philips.com by knox.pcec.philips.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04245; Mon, 15 May 95 11:12:09 EDT Received: by eis16.philips.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA02297; Mon, 15 May 1995 11:12:08 -0400 Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 11:12:08 -0400 From: wolperte@knox.pcec.philips.com (ED WOLPERT ) Message-Id: <9505151512.AA02297@eis16.philips.com> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Trident 9440 help with Xfree86, on Freebsd Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Folks- I've installed Freebsd 2.0, from the Walnut creek cdrom. I've been trying to get the x working, and have gotten it ok at 800x600, 16colors. My card (VL-46, trident TVGA9440) can support 256 colors at 1024x768, and so can my monitor (Philips cm4015) I realize that the latest chipset from Trident that is supported is the 9420, but I'd figure I'd try it anyway. (Since it's the only one I've got. ;-) Basically, when I do the configuration, everything is there, and I'm trying to emulate the 9420 chipset. However, the xfree code sees the version of the board (0xe3 I believe) and reconizes that it's unknown, so it defaults to generic. Perhaps there is a way to configure generic to handle 1024x768 at 256 colors? Any ideas? -- Virtually, Edward Wolpert ------------------------------- "The best way out is always wolperte@pcec.knox.philips.com | through." - Robert Frost wolpert@utk.edu | =============================== 'Give me a shell, and I'll Truth is what you believe. | give you the world.' (tm) ------------------------------- Fnord. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 15 09:14:49 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA05553 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 May 1995 09:14:49 -0700 Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA05545 for ; Mon, 15 May 1995 09:13:26 -0700 Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA05071; Mon, 15 May 95 16:12:53 GMT Received: from junco.fsl.noaa.gov by yarmouth.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA28523; Mon, 15 May 1995 12:13:23 -0400 Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 12:13:23 -0400 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9505151613.AA28523@yarmouth.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by junco.fsl.noaa.gov (1.37.109.16/SMI-4.1 (1.37.109.16)) id AA015024402; Mon, 15 May 1995 10:13:22 -0600 To: tucker@meadow.mdso.vf.ge.com Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9505151456.AA07715@duke.meadow.mdso.vf.ge.com> (tucker@meadow.mdso.vf.ge.com) Subject: Re: RPC: DOS<->FreeBSD Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Clark" == tucker writes: Clark> Hello, Does anyone know of (preferably free) packages for Clark> DOS that support RPC?? I know of a noncommericial one: PC/NFS from SunSoft (Sun Microsystems). It's pretty good, too. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Lab, Boulder Colorado USA Learn to levitate. While your roommate is looking away, float up out of your seat. When s/he turns to look, fall back down and grin. -- One of 120 ways to annoy your roommate. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 15 09:30:39 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA05991 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 May 1995 09:30:39 -0700 Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA05985 for ; Mon, 15 May 1995 09:30:37 -0700 Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA05266; Mon, 15 May 95 16:30:03 GMT Received: from junco.fsl.noaa.gov by yarmouth.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA29329; Mon, 15 May 1995 12:30:34 -0400 Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 12:30:34 -0400 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9505151630.AA29329@yarmouth.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by junco.fsl.noaa.gov (1.37.109.16/SMI-4.1 (1.37.109.16)) id AA020495432; Mon, 15 May 1995 10:30:32 -0600 To: tucker@meadow.mdso.vf.ge.com Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9505151456.AA07715@duke.meadow.mdso.vf.ge.com> (tucker@meadow.mdso.vf.ge.com) Subject: Re: RPC: DOS<->FreeBSD Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm just checking my caffeine-o-meter and I'm running low. So if I said PC/NFS was noncommercial, that's bogus. It's definitely COMMERCIAL, and the last time I checked it cost about $500. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Lab, Boulder Colorado USA Any man, in the right situation, is capable of murder. But not any man is capable of being a good camper. So, murder and camping are not as similar as you might think. -- Jack Handey From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 15 09:45:27 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA06751 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 May 1995 09:45:27 -0700 Received: from narnia.hip.berkeley.edu (narnia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.57]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA06745 for ; Mon, 15 May 1995 09:45:26 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by narnia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA00228; Mon, 15 May 1995 09:46:41 -0700 Message-Id: <199505151646.JAA00228@narnia.hip.berkeley.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: narnia.hip.berkeley.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: wolperte@knox.pcec.philips.com (ED WOLPERT ) cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Trident 9440 help with Xfree86, on Freebsd In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 15 May 1995 11:12:08 EDT." <9505151512.AA02297@eis16.philips.com> Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 09:46:40 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Folks- > I've installed Freebsd 2.0, from the Walnut creek cdrom. >I've been trying to get the x working, and have gotten it ok at >800x600, 16colors. My card (VL-46, trident TVGA9440) can support >256 colors at 1024x768, and so can my monitor (Philips cm4015) >I realize that the latest chipset from Trident that is supported >is the 9420, but I'd figure I'd try it anyway. (Since it's >the only one I've got. ;-) > > Basically, when I do the configuration, everything is there, >and I'm trying to emulate the 9420 chipset. However, the xfree >code sees the version of the board (0xe3 I believe) and reconizes >that it's unknown, so it defaults to generic. Perhaps there is a >way to configure generic to handle 1024x768 at 256 colors? Any >ideas? Ask the folks at XFree86.org? > >-- > Virtually, > Edward Wolpert > >------------------------------- "The best way out is always >wolperte@pcec.knox.philips.com | through." - Robert Frost >wolpert@utk.edu | >=============================== 'Give me a shell, and I'll >Truth is what you believe. | give you the world.' (tm) >------------------------------- > > >Fnord. -- Justin T. Gibbs ============================================== TCS Instructional Group - Programmer/Analyst 1 Cory | Po | Danube | Volga | Parker | Torus ============================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 15 11:40:29 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA10519 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 May 1995 11:40:29 -0700 Received: from mercury.unt.edu (mercury.unt.edu [129.120.1.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA10512 for ; Mon, 15 May 1995 11:40:27 -0700 Received: from gab.unt.edu by mercury.unt.edu with SMTP id AA20800 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 15 May 1995 13:40:21 -0500 Received: from GAB/MAILQUEUE by gab.unt.edu (Mercury 1.13); Mon, 15 May 95 13:40:25 CST6CDT Received: from MAILQUEUE by GAB (Mercury 1.13); Mon, 15 May 95 13:40:08 CST6CDT From: "John Booth" Organization: University of North Texas To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 13:40:05 CST6CDT Subject: When's the next tenative date for 2.0.5? Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <3A4B0073ED0@gab.unt.edu> Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Wondering if there's a new date for 2.0.5...have seen one mail asking, but no replies. Also I've heard of incompatibilities with 3c509 rev B's....well I've got a couple of Rev C's....anyone else running with those. I'm getting ready to put on the 4-12 snapshot and wondering what problems I'll encounter. I saw Serge Babkin mentioned the card id & MFG id may be different. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- College of Arts & Sciences Computing Services John A. Booth, john@gab.unt.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 15 12:25:09 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA12444 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 May 1995 12:25:09 -0700 Received: from frodi.cs.uop.edu (frodi.cs.uop.edu [138.9.200.53]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA12438 for ; Mon, 15 May 1995 12:25:07 -0700 Received: from uop.cs.uop.edu by frodi.cs.uop.edu with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA26589; Mon, 15 May 1995 12:25:13 -0700 Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 12:24:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Tiggie To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Monitor parameters on XFree86 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Could someone direct me to a place or tell me the method of inputting the monitor parameter's on the XF86Config file? I want to setup the X windows to display at 800x600 and 1024x768. system software: FreeBSD SNAP 041295 XFree86-3.1.1 system hardware: P5-90MHz Stealth 64 2Mb VRAM w/ Bt495? chipset CTX 15inch non-interlaced monitor Kevin P.S. I got startx to work with the S3 driver and the generic monitor at 640x480. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 15 13:43:47 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA15420 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 May 1995 13:43:47 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA15412 for ; Mon, 15 May 1995 13:43:41 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA10816; Mon, 15 May 95 14:35:03 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9505152035.AA10816@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: RPC: DOS<->FreeBSD To: tucker@meadow.mdso.vf.ge.com Date: Mon, 15 May 95 14:35:03 MDT Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9505151456.AA07715@duke.meadow.mdso.vf.ge.com> from "tucker@meadow.mdso.vf.ge.com" at May 15, 95 10:56:53 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Does anyone know of (preferably free) packages for DOS that support RPC?? > Also, has anyone used a commercial Database package on FreeBSD? Any > recommendations?? If you put in the socket hack from Linux (which is under GPL, so you will have to become a CD manufacturer or not give away the changes) for IBCS2, Sybase runs. I don't know if everything about it runs perfectly; I do know that it runs well enough to maintain a mirror of the HGP data (which is what I set it up for). > I'd like to set up a net with FreeBSD as a server providing database > transactions for clients running MSWindoze. I assume that I can get > this going with a little RPC programming, but any other approaches > would be greatly appreciated. You will definitely need to port/write a /dev/socket for this. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 15 14:30:41 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA17051 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 May 1995 14:30:41 -0700 Received: from copper.cmp.com (copper.cmp.com [198.80.26.247]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA17039 for ; Mon, 15 May 1995 14:30:38 -0700 Received: from mailgate.cmp.com ([198.80.26.5]) by copper.cmp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.14/16.2) id AA258113325; Mon, 15 May 1995 17:28:45 -0400 Received: by mailgate.cmp.com with Microsoft Mail id <2FB7F1F4@mailgate.cmp.com>; Mon, 15 May 95 17:29:40 PDT From: Plyaskin Sergey To: questions Subject: RE: Monitor parameters on XFree86 Date: Mon, 15 May 95 17:29:00 PDT Message-Id: <2FB7F1F4@mailgate.cmp.com> Encoding: 24 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Could someone direct me to a place or tell me the method of inputting the monitor parameter's on the XF86Config file? I want to setup the X windows to display at 800x600 and 1024x768. system software: FreeBSD SNAP 041295 XFree86-3.1.1 system hardware: P5-90MHz Stealth 64 2Mb VRAM w/ Bt495? chipset CTX 15inch non-interlaced monitor Kevin P.S. I got startx to work with the S3 driver and the generic monitor at 640x480. ________________ /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/doc/Monitors You also may read other README for S3 in this directory. -Serge From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 15 14:43:46 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA17407 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 May 1995 14:43:46 -0700 Received: from grendel.csc.smith.edu (grendel.csc.smith.edu [131.229.222.23]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA17399 for ; Mon, 15 May 1995 14:43:44 -0700 Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by grendel.csc.smith.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5) id RAA15183; Mon, 15 May 1995 17:43:42 -0400 From: jfieber@cs.smith.edu (John Fieber) Message-Id: <199505152143.RAA15183@grendel.csc.smith.edu> Subject: Re: Docs for both ends of SLIP/PPP connection? To: uhclem%nemesis@fw.ast.com (Frank Durda IV) Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 17:43:41 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Frank Durda IV" at May 11, 95 08:36:00 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 716 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [redirected from hackers to questions] Frank Durda IV writes: > Is there any step-by-step documents that describe how to set > up a SLIP and/or PPP connection on a FreeBSD system FOR BOTH ENDS? > That is, documentation that tells how to set up ports on a FreeBSD system > to act as SLIP/PPP ports to connect to (dial-in), AND documentation for how > to make an outgoing SLIP/PPP call using FreeBSD to a remote server, > possibly even a remote FreeBSD server? Look up http://www.freebsd.org/How/handbook. It isn't complete by any stretch, but it is a start. -john === jfieber@cs.smith.edu ================================================ =================================== Come up and be a kite! --K. Bush === From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 15 16:52:57 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA21593 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 May 1995 16:52:57 -0700 Received: from mail.eskimo.com (root@mail.eskimo.com [204.122.16.4]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA21586 for ; Mon, 15 May 1995 16:52:55 -0700 Received: from eskimo.com by mail.eskimo.com (5.65c/1.35) id AA22090; Mon, 15 May 1995 16:52:50 -0700 Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 16:52:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Haas To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: print spooling Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there, I'm running the 4/12 snapshot of FreeBSD and am having no luck getting print spooling working. I've set up a printer "lp" in /etc/printcap: # @(#)printcap 5.3 (Berkeley) 6/30/90 lp|local line printer:\ :lp=/dev/lpt0:sd=/var/spool/output/lpd:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs: and set lptcontrol as both interrupt-driven and polled. Upon a reboot, I can send a request for printing, like: # lpr sample.text but the printer head just makes a bit of noise, and nothing gets printed. Subsequent print requests don't make it to the printer either, and the print head doesn't rattle at all. Instead, everything gets piled up in /var/spool/output/lpd, where it sits forever (or at least until I lprm 'em). I've tried everything I can think of using lpc, lptcontrol, lpd and /etc/printcap. What's worse is I can still print files by using # cat sample.text > /dev/lpt0 so I know it's not a hardware fault. Please help me! What am I doing wrong here? Thanks in advance! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "You choke on the fumes of ethernet vapors... You die." Dave Haas Island Computer Solutions daveh@eskimo.com (206) 842-0679 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 15 18:46:58 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA24344 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 15 May 1995 18:46:58 -0700 Received: from mercury.netropolis.net (mercury.netropolis.net [204.176.47.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id SAA24338 for ; Mon, 15 May 1995 18:46:57 -0700 Received: by mercury.netropolis.net; id AA07216; Mon, 15 May 1995 20:51:01 -0500 Message-Id: <9505160151.AA07216@mercury.netropolis.net> From: "Randall O. Berndt" To: Questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 20:47:12 +500 Subject: Serial<->Net<->Serial pipe???? Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk First, on a 1 to 10 BSD scale, I am a 1.5 or so, please "flame-refrain"...... I would like to hook up 2 pc's, in different cities, with their serial ports "net-connected". Anything that goes in one, comes out the other, and vice-versa. This will be used to let a couple of dumb terminals log on to a machine that only has serial port access. Telnet puts you at a login prompt, so that won't work. Has anyone out there already done something like this? Am I missing some really easy and obvious solution? Thanks. Randy Berndt [Signature, like all highways in Houston, under construction.] From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 16 01:23:17 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA02708 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 May 1995 01:23:17 -0700 Received: from hutcs.cs.hut.fi (root@hutcs.cs.hut.fi [130.233.192.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA02701 for ; Tue, 16 May 1995 01:23:09 -0700 Received: from shadows.cs.hut.fi by hutcs.cs.hut.fi with SMTP id AA14123 (5.65c8/HUTCS-S 1.4 for ); Tue, 16 May 1995 11:23:00 +0300 From: Heikki Suonsivu Received: (hsu@localhost) by shadows.cs.hut.fi (8.6.10/8.6.10) id LAA14558; Tue, 16 May 1995 11:22:59 +0300 Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 11:22:59 +0300 Message-Id: <199505160822.LAA14558@shadows.cs.hut.fi> To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Subject: Compiling everything with -g, how to make installworld? Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Otaniemi, Finland Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there an easy way to do make world with -g? I would like to keep the symbols around to be able to track problems easier. I don't mind the disk consumption (compared to price of work, disk space is free). Another problem; I would like to make world once and do install over nfs on all systems instead of compiling everything again everywhere. Just doing install isn't enough as hierachies aren't built. Anyone with a good rule to add into /usr/src/Makefile (or is it there already)? -- Heikki Suonsivu, T{ysikuu 10 C 83/02210 Espoo/FINLAND, hsu@cs.hut.fi home +358-0-8031121 work -4513377 fax -4555276 riippu SN From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 16 01:45:22 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA03142 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 May 1995 01:45:22 -0700 Received: from zaphod (zaphod.ttu.ee [193.40.254.227]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA03136 for ; Tue, 16 May 1995 01:45:16 -0700 Received: from juku.li.ttu.ee by zaphod (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA07706; Tue, 16 May 1995 11:45:08 +0300 Received: by juku.li.ttu.ee (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA16300; Tue, 16 May 1995 11:43:40 +0300 Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 11:43:40 +0300 From: tanel@juku.li.ttu.ee (Tanel Kuusk) Message-Id: <9505160843.AA16300@juku.li.ttu.ee> To: questions@FreeBSD.org, daveh@eskimo.com Subject: Re: print spooling X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > so I know it's not a hardware fault. > > Please help me! What am I doing wrong here? But do you have lpd running? (ps -ax will show). And you should check for the file/dir/dev permissions. And if everything is ok and it still don't work, try changing the line like lpr.info /var/log/lpd-errs in /etc/syslog.conf to a line like lpr.debug /var/log/lpd-errs and see what will appear in the /var/log/lpd-errs. Oh yes, you should restart or at least kill -HUP the syslogd after changing the conf file. Hope that helps, Tanel From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 16 01:51:02 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA03266 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 May 1995 01:51:02 -0700 Received: from zaphod (zaphod.ttu.ee [193.40.254.227]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA03256 for ; Tue, 16 May 1995 01:50:49 -0700 Received: from juku.li.ttu.ee by zaphod (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA07716; Tue, 16 May 1995 11:51:05 +0300 Received: by juku.li.ttu.ee (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA16306; Tue, 16 May 1995 11:49:37 +0300 Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 11:49:37 +0300 From: tanel@juku.li.ttu.ee (Tanel Kuusk) Message-Id: <9505160849.AA16306@juku.li.ttu.ee> To: Questions@FreeBSD.org, rberndt@mercury.netropolis.net Subject: Re: Serial<->Net<->Serial pipe???? X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I would like to hook up 2 pc's, in different cities, with their > serial ports "net-connected". Anything that goes in one, comes out > the other, and vice-versa. This will be used to let a couple of dumb > terminals log on to a machine that only has serial port access. Do I get it right tht you want to use serial terminals on a FreeBSD box? In this case you need a getty on the BSD side (define the serial port in /etc/ttys, look for /dev/tty00 or something like) and a simple terminal emulation program on the other side. But in this case you'll get a login prompt. Tanel From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 16 06:55:52 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA10034 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 May 1995 06:55:52 -0700 Received: from macon.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (macon.Informatik.Uni-Tuebingen.De [134.2.12.17]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA10025 for ; Tue, 16 May 1995 06:55:50 -0700 Received: from provence.Informatik.Uni-Tuebingen.De by macon.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA02723; Tue, 16 May 1995 15:55:11 +0200 Message-Id: <9505161355.AA02723@macon.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: installing on ACER 760 laptop Reply-To: thiemann@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Comments: Hyperbole mail buttons accepted, v3.16. Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 15:55:09 +0200 From: Peter Thiemann Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, when I try to install 2.0-950412-SNAP on the laptop I get as far as to the point where newfs is run. This fails with the message ====================================================================== wd0a:wdstart: timeout waiting to give command writing fsbn 1008 of 1008-1023 (wd0 bn 250992; cn 124 tn 16 sn 0) wd0: status 0 error1 ====================================================================== and the system hangs retrying the command. The disk is a TOSHIBA MK1924FCV, 518MB w128kb cache. Please answer by mail if you have any suggestions. BTW: creating filesystem with LINUX works, but I'd prefer FreeBSD if possible. I haven't tried earlier releases of FreeBSD, yet. Cheers, Peter From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 16 08:41:33 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA12874 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 May 1995 08:41:33 -0700 Received: from grep.cs.fsu.edu (grep.cs.fsu.edu [128.186.121.152]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA12864 for ; Tue, 16 May 1995 08:41:31 -0700 Received: by grep.cs.fsu.edu (8.6.9/56) id LAA10493; Tue, 16 May 1995 11:41:28 -0400 From: Gang-Ryung Uh Message-Id: <199505161541.LAA10493@grep.cs.fsu.edu> Subject: rm problem To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 11:41:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 386 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, all.. I have a directory 'trash' in /usr. I tried to delete that directory by 'rm -r trash' but it fails with following error message: rm: trash/comms/kermit/scripts: Directory not empty rm: trash/comms/kermit: Directory not empty rm: trash/comms: Directory not empty rm: trash: Directory not empty Any help will be appreciated. Thanks in advance.. Regards, --Uh uh@cs.fsu.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 16 10:57:31 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA15727 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 May 1995 10:57:31 -0700 Received: from grep.cs.fsu.edu (grep.cs.fsu.edu [128.186.121.152]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA15716 for ; Tue, 16 May 1995 10:57:29 -0700 Received: by grep.cs.fsu.edu (8.6.9/56) id NAA11978; Tue, 16 May 1995 13:57:24 -0400 From: Gang-Ryung Uh Message-Id: <199505161757.NAA11978@grep.cs.fsu.edu> Subject: Re: rm problem To: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 13:57:23 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9505161651.AA18221@yarmouth.fsl.noaa.gov> from "Sean Kelly" at May 16, 95 12:51:25 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 258 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Try: > > % su > Password: > # rm -rf /usr/trash > Thanks for your reply. Yes, I did that, too!! But I fixed my problem. After I ran 'fsck /dev/sd0f' manually, then I can delete that directory. Regards, --Uh uh@cs.fsu.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 16 11:00:50 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA15843 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 May 1995 11:00:50 -0700 Received: from bnr.ca (x400gate.bnr.ca [192.58.194.73]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA15837 for ; Tue, 16 May 1995 11:00:48 -0700 X400-Received: by mta bnr.ca in /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Tue, 16 May 1995 13:58:49 -0400 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Tue, 16 May 1995 13:58:19 -0400 X400-Received: by /PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/; Relayed; Tue, 16 May 1995 13:57:00 -0400 Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 13:57:00 -0400 X400-Originator: /dd.id=1740711/g=bo/i=b/s=xiao/@bnr.ca X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/;bcars735.b.871:16.04.95.17.58.19] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: re:rm problem From: "bo (b.) xiao" Message-ID: <"15880 Tue May 16 13:58:27 1995"@bnr.ca> To: uh@grep.cs.fsu.edu Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: re:rm problem Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message "rm problem", uh@grep.cs.fsu.edu writes: > Hi, all.. > > I have a directory 'trash' in /usr. I tried to delete that > directory by 'rm -r trash' but it fails with following error > message: > > rm: trash/comms/kermit/scripts: Directory not empty > rm: trash/comms/kermit: Directory not empty > rm: trash/comms: Directory not empty > rm: trash: Directory not empty See if there is any filenames starting with a dot(.) in the said directories. Bo From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 16 11:34:35 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA16747 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 May 1995 11:34:35 -0700 Received: from strydr.strydr.com (strydr.strydr.com [199.217.201.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA16741 for ; Tue, 16 May 1995 11:34:33 -0700 Received: (from ds3721@localhost) by strydr.strydr.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA13346 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 16 May 1995 13:33:47 -0500 From: David Schnardthorst Message-Id: <199505161833.NAA13346@strydr.strydr.com> Subject: ProAudio Spectrum and Mediavision CDROM To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 13:33:46 -0500 (CDT) Organization: Stryder Communications, Inc. Address: 869 St. Francois, Florissant, Mo. 63031 Telephone: (314)838-6839 Fax: (314)838-8527 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 532 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is it possible to get a proaudio spectrum sound card and a Mediavision CDROM to work under FREE-BSD. ============================================================================ David Schnardthorst System Administrator * Phone: (314)838-6839 Stryder Communications, Inc. * Fax: (314)838-8527 869 St. Francois * E-Mail: ds3721@strydr.com Florissant, MO 63031 * HTTP: http://www.strydr.com ============================================================================ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 16 14:31:33 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA21663 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 May 1995 14:31:33 -0700 Received: from rrnet.com (rrnet.com [198.81.198.5]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA21656 for ; Tue, 16 May 1995 14:31:30 -0700 Received: from localhost (erich@localhost) by rrnet.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) id QAA06805; Tue, 16 May 1995 16:32:30 -0500 Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 16:32:27 -0500 (CDT) From: "Eric L. Hernes" Subject: Re: ProAudio Spectrum and Mediavision CDROM To: David Schnardthorst cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505161833.NAA13346@strydr.strydr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 16 May 1995, David Schnardthorst wrote: > Is it possible to get a proaudio spectrum sound card and a Mediavision CDROM > to work under FREE-BSD. > yes it is possible., I can't remember if it's in the default kernel or not. You'll need the snapshot from about 02/2 or newer. if the kernel says its probed, but not found, then boot with a -c and set the ioport to be 0x1f88 otherwise you have to build a new kernel with support for scd0 (my mediavison is really a sony cdu33a) and probably nas0. scd0 adds the cdrom driver. nas0 is the controller that the cdrom is on. I'm not sure how this works on the latest snapshot, my machine with this hardware is still running 020295-SNAP. Since then there has been a new driver. Maybe someone who is using more recent stuff can fill in some details. > ============================================================================ > David Schnardthorst System Administrator * Phone: (314)838-6839 > Stryder Communications, Inc. * Fax: (314)838-8527 > 869 St. Francois * E-Mail: ds3721@strydr.com > Florissant, MO 63031 * HTTP: http://www.strydr.com > ============================================================================ > erich. -- erich@rrnet.com erich@lodgenet.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 16 15:26:23 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA24452 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 May 1995 15:26:23 -0700 Received: from cps201.cps.cmich.edu (archive@cps201.cps.cmich.edu [141.209.20.201]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA24444 for ; Tue, 16 May 1995 15:26:21 -0700 Received: (from archive@localhost) by cps201.cps.cmich.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA29742; Tue, 16 May 1995 18:26:18 -0400 Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 18:26:18 -0400 (EDT) From: CMU Mail Archive X-Sender: archive@cps201 Reply-To: mbailey@gnu.ai.mit.edu To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Two ethernet Interfaces In-Reply-To: <199505161833.NAA13346@strydr.strydr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I want to be able to use two ethernet cards in my machine I want to respond to the WWW name and the other to respond to the ftp name. I have the two cards in the machines and ifconfiged correctly but for some strange reason the second IP (ie the WWW IP) gets placed on ed0 when it should be ep0 and ed0 should only have the ip for FTP Does anyone know what is causing this? Thanks Matthew S. Bailey From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 16 16:18:49 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA25608 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 May 1995 16:18:49 -0700 Received: from strydr.strydr.com (strydr.strydr.com [199.217.201.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA25602 for ; Tue, 16 May 1995 16:18:47 -0700 Received: from borris.khoros.unm.edu (borris.khoros.unm.edu [198.59.155.2]) by strydr.strydr.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA16165; Tue, 16 May 1995 18:18:03 -0500 Received: by borris.khoros.unm.edu (4.1/KHOROS/Feb 18 1994) id <9505162318.AA29441@borris.khoros.unm.edu>; Tue, 16 May 95 17:18:23 MDT Posted-Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 17:18:23 MDT Message-Id: <9505162318.AA29441@borris.khoros.unm.edu> From: steve@khoros.unm.edu (Steven Jorgensen) Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 17:18:23 MDT X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: David Schnardthorst , freebsd.org!questions@strydr.com Subject: Re: ProAudio Spectrum and Mediavision CDROM Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On May 16, 13:30, David Schnardthorst wrote: } Subject: ProAudio Spectrum and Mediavision CDROM >> Is it possible to get a proaudio spectrum sound card and a Mediavision CDROM >> to work under FREE-BSD. }-- End of excerpt from David Schnardthorst I've got mediavision multimedia package, and it seems to work fine. The only problem is that I can't run music CD's on the CDROM from FreeBSD, and I think the reason is that my CDROM is a SCSI 1 device, and the scsilib is expecting a SCSI 2 device.. The sound card works pretty good, although the mod player I have for FreeBSD isn't very good. Anyway, the following configuration works for me.. Add the lines to you kernel configuration file and remake your kernel.. # # Audio drivers: `snd', `pca' # # snd: Voxware sound drivers for various cards (see file `sound.doc') # pca: PCM audio through your PC speaker # # Someday, Voxware configuration will be done properly. # #device snd5 at isa? port 0x330 irq 6 vector mpuintr #device snd4 at isa? port 0x220 irq 15 drq 6 vector gusintr device snd3 at isa? port 0x388 irq 12 drq 3 vector pasintr device snd2 at isa? port 0x220 irq 7 drq 1 vector sbintr #device snd6 at isa? port 0x220 irq 7 drq 5 vector sbintr #device snd7 at isa? port 0x300 device snd1 at isa? port 0x38a device pca0 at isa? tty I have the CDROM on my Adaptec SCSI instead of the PAS16, but if you have the line: controller pas0 at isa? port 0x1f88 bio in your kernel config file it should control the CDROM just fine. Finally, you'll have to use MAKEDEV in /dev to create the audio devices by doing % MAKEDEV snd Hope this helps.. Steve -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Steven Jorgensen | Khoral Research Inc. steve@khoros.unm.edu | 6001 Indian School, Suite 200 ------------------------+ Albuquerque, NM 87110 PHONE: (505) 837-6500 +------------------------------------ FAX: (505) 881-3842 | URL: http://www.khoros.unm.edu/ ------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 16 16:42:59 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA25902 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 May 1995 16:42:59 -0700 Received: from mercury.netropolis.net (mercury.netropolis.net [204.176.47.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA25896 for ; Tue, 16 May 1995 16:42:57 -0700 Received: by mercury.netropolis.net; id AA15115; Tue, 16 May 1995 18:46:37 -0500 Message-Id: <9505162346.AA15115@mercury.netropolis.net> From: "Randall O. Berndt" To: brian@mediacity.com (Brian Litzinger) Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 18:40:00 +500 Subject: Re: Serial<->Net<->Serial pipe???? Cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > First, on a 1 to 10 BSD scale, I am a 1.5 or so, please > > "flame-refrain"...... > > > I would like to hook up 2 pc's, in different cities, with their > > serial ports "net-connected". Anything that goes in one, comes out > > the other, and vice-versa. This will be used to let a couple of dumb > > terminals log on to a machine that only has serial port access. > > > Telnet puts you at a login prompt, so that won't work. Has anyone out > > there already done something like this? Am I missing some really easy > > and obvious solution? > > If I understand your desire, you can connect the two machines together > with PPP or SLIP. PPP=point-to-point protocol, SLIP=Serial Line > Internet Protocol. Both of these will effectively network the > two machine together. I prefer PPP, and suggest you look at the > excellent package /usr/sbin/ppp. > > Aftering setting up your PPP link between the two machines, you can > have the serial terminals log into the local machine and then > telnet or rlogin to the remote machine. With the appropriate > setup you can make them transparently log into the remote. > > Brian Litzinger > brian@easynet.com > Brian, Thanks for the reply. I guess I wasn't completely clear. I want to have two FreeBSD machines, each hooked to a local (to them) internet provider, each with a static IP address. One machine would have dumb terminals hooked to serial ports, the other would have a non-unix computer (that only connects terminals serial) connected to the FreeBSD serial ports. I am attempting to use internet access as a substitute for long distance direct-connect multiplexors. I want the dumb terminal in one city to pretend it is hooked up to the dumb computer in the other city. The two FreeBSD machines (and their internet connections) would act solely as "transport" for the data. In fact, there will be no "login", I want to start processes at boot time that connect the ports. If this works, I can pay for the two PC's and modems in about a year (less, if we add another city) and after that I am just saving. Also, by doing this (and a little extra work), I get free internet access to my desktop at the office and my PC at home ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 16 17:53:11 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA27143 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 May 1995 17:53:11 -0700 Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA27137 for ; Tue, 16 May 1995 17:53:05 -0700 Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA15674; Wed, 17 May 95 00:52:25 GMT Received: from junco.fsl.noaa.gov by yarmouth.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA18546; Tue, 16 May 1995 20:52:57 -0400 Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 20:52:57 -0400 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9505170052.AA18546@yarmouth.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by junco.fsl.noaa.gov (1.37.109.16/SMI-4.1 (1.37.109.16)) id AA237521977; Tue, 16 May 1995 18:52:57 -0600 To: rberndt@mercury.netropolis.net Cc: brian@mediacity.com, FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9505162346.AA15115@mercury.netropolis.net> (rberndt@mercury.netropolis.net) Subject: Re: Serial<->Net<->Serial pipe???? Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Randall" == Randall O Berndt writes: Randall> I want to have two FreeBSD machines, each hooked to a Randall> local (to them) internet provider, each with a static IP Randall> address. One machine would have dumb terminals hooked to Randall> serial ports, the other would have a non-unix computer Randall> (that only connects terminals serial) connected to the Randall> FreeBSD serial ports. I am attempting to use internet Randall> access as a substitute for long distance direct-connect Randall> multiplexors. I want the dumb terminal in one city to Randall> pretend it is hooked up to the dumb computer in the other Randall> city. The two FreeBSD machines (and their internet Randall> connections) would act solely as "transport" for the Randall> data. In fact, there will be no "login", I want to start Randall> processes at boot time that connect the ports. Sounds like a problem the Internet Head-to-Head daemon could solve. I've only heard about it, so I'm not sure where you could find the source code, but I'm lead to believe it was originally designed for people who play two-player, non-UNIX computer games normally over a modem to instead play over the Internet. And even if it doesn't exist or isn't appropriate, it's not that hard to write code for what you're describing. In fact, you could have rlogins instead of gettys on the PC with the dumb terminals connected to it. These could rlogin as a specific user whose login shell is something that connects stdin and stdout to one of the serial ports connected to the dumb computer. Say ... this might just work! Randall> Also, by doing this (and a little extra work), I get free Randall> internet access to my desktop at the office and my PC at Randall> home ;-) Hey, no fair! -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Lab, Boulder Colorado USA Proof by cumbersome notation: Best done with access to at least four alphabets and special symbols From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 16 18:19:41 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA27718 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 May 1995 18:19:41 -0700 Received: from delta.cs.fsu.edu (delta.cs.fsu.edu [128.186.121.8]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA27712 for ; Tue, 16 May 1995 18:19:38 -0700 Received: by delta.cs.fsu.edu (8.6.9/56) id VAA03580; Tue, 16 May 1995 21:19:35 -0400 From: Gang-Ryung Uh Message-Id: <199505170119.VAA03580@delta.cs.fsu.edu> Subject: ntpdate To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 21:19:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 267 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I tried to set my local time to gatekeeper.dec.com as follow: # ntpdate gatekeeper.dec.com 16 May 20:18:29 ntpdate: no server suitable for synchronization found I am pretty sure that xntpd is not running on my machine!! Thanks for your help!! Regards, --Uh From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 16 18:38:00 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA27916 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 May 1995 18:38:00 -0700 Received: from melcogw.melit.melco.co.jp (melcogw.melit.melco.co.jp [192.218.140.35]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id SAA27910 for ; Tue, 16 May 1995 18:37:58 -0700 Received: by melcogw.melit.melco.co.jp (5.65+1.6W/2.7W) id AA12867; Wed, 17 May 95 10:38:40 JST Received: from inanews by inetgw.topo.melco.co.jp (16.8/6.4J.6-inetgw1.0) id AA23648; Wed, 17 May 95 10:29:37 +0900 Received: from rupee.ina.melco.co.jp by griffin.ina.melco.co.jp (4.0/6.4J.6-ina2) id AA15278; Wed, 17 May 95 10:36:59 JST Received: by rupee.ina.melco.co.jp (4.1/6.4J.6-ina2) id AA00958; Wed, 17 May 95 10:38:03 JST Date: Wed, 17 May 95 10:38:03 JST From: kimura@ina.melco.co.jp (Noriko Kimura) Message-Id: <9505170138.AA00958@rupee.ina.melco.co.jp> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: PS/2 mouse on FreeBSD(SCSI trouble?) help! Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The PS/2 mouse can try to be used on FreeBSD and the trouble occurs. options ALLOW_CONFLICT_IOADDR device pms0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 12 vector pmsintr Two lines written up were added to GENERIC and the kernel was restructured. However, the following messages appear after the message "starting system logger" and does not stand up. invalid reselect(idbit=0x40) aic at line 2309 identify faild sd0(aic0:6:0) :timed out sd0(aic0:6:0) :timed out : : The H/W configuration is as follows. DELL Optiplex 466/MXV CPU:i486DX2/66MHz Memory:20MB HDD:IDE 450MB + SCSI 1GB(SCSI ID=6) (FreeBSD use IDE 100MB(root,swap) + SCSI 500MB(/usr)) SCSI I/F:Adaptec AHA-1522A CD-ROM:Toshiba XM-5901(SCSI ID=1) Please teach if you occasionally understand something where the problem is. ------------------------------------------- Noriko K Okazaki E-mail:kimura@ina.melco.co.jp(Office) kimura@tcp-ip.or.jp(Home) ------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 16 20:13:20 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id UAA03568 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 May 1995 20:13:20 -0700 Received: from uuneo.neosoft.com (mailman@uuneo.NeoSoft.COM [198.64.84.252]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA03558 for ; Tue, 16 May 1995 20:13:11 -0700 Received: (from mailman@localhost) by uuneo.neosoft.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) id WAA22126; Tue, 16 May 1995 22:13:07 -0500 Received: from concorde.neosoft.com(198.65.161.214) by uuneo.neosoft.com via smap (V1.3) id sma022096; Tue May 16 22:12:52 1995 Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 22:12:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Daniel Baker X-Sender: dbaker@concorde.neosoft.com To: Gang-Ryung Uh cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ntpdate In-Reply-To: <199505170119.VAA03580@delta.cs.fsu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 16 May 1995, Gang-Ryung Uh wrote: > Hi, Hi! > I tried to set my local time to gatekeeper.dec.com as follow: > > # ntpdate gatekeeper.dec.com > 16 May 20:18:29 ntpdate: no server suitable for synchronization found Try this: ntpdate -s gatekeeper.dec.com > I am pretty sure that xntpd is not running on my machine!! > Thanks for your help!! :-) > Regards, > --Uh Daniel Daniel Baker -- NeoSoft Student Assistant (UseNet, FTP & Free-Net Admin.) DBaker@NeoSoft.COM DBaker@Concorde-Mail.NeoSoft.COM ** http://www.neosoft.com/neosoft/staff/dbaker/default.html ** From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 16 20:44:10 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id UAA09336 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 May 1995 20:44:10 -0700 Received: from mpp.com (dialup-4-64.gw.umn.edu [128.101.96.64]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA09317 for ; Tue, 16 May 1995 20:44:02 -0700 Received: (from mpp@localhost) by mpp.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id WAA05179; Tue, 16 May 1995 22:12:41 -0500 From: Mike Pritchard Message-Id: <199505170312.WAA05179@mpp.com> Subject: Re: ntpdate To: uh@delta.cs.fsu.edu (Gang-Ryung Uh) Date: Tue, 16 May 1995 22:12:41 -0500 (CDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505170119.VAA03580@delta.cs.fsu.edu> from "Gang-Ryung Uh" at May 16, 95 09:19:34 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 592 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I tried to set my local time to gatekeeper.dec.com as follow: > > # ntpdate gatekeeper.dec.com > 16 May 20:18:29 ntpdate: no server suitable for synchronization found > > > I am pretty sure that xntpd is not running on my machine!! > > Thanks for your help!! I've noticed that if I try running ntpdate right away after bringing my network up that I will get the above message. If I put in a sleep of a few seconds, then ntpdate will run correctly about 98% of the time. -- Mike Pritchard pritc003@maroon.tc.umn.edu "Go that way. Really fast. If something gets in your way, turn" From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 16 23:57:40 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA24613 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 May 1995 23:57:40 -0700 Received: from emws1.ee.ibaraki.ac.jp (emws1.ee.ibaraki.ac.jp [157.80.23.41]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id XAA24602 for ; Tue, 16 May 1995 23:57:35 -0700 Message-Id: <199505170657.XAA24602@freefall.cdrom.com> Received: from tao.ee.ibaraki.ac.jp by emws1.ee.ibaraki.ac.jp with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA10659; Wed, 17 May 95 15:55:13 +0900 Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 15:57:46 +0900 To: questions@FreeBSD.org From: wada@emws1.ee.ibaraki.ac.jp (Wada, Tatsuaki/=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCT0JFRBsoQg==?=) Subject: qpopper needs des-crypt? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp X-Mailer: Eudora-J(1.3.8.5-J13) Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have just installed qpop2.1.4-r1 on FreeBSD 2.0R. It seems that the pop server is correctly starting. But it does not accept my password. The 'INSTALL' note said FreeBSD riquires the crypt libraly for password comparisons. Is this means we need DES crypt for it? Thanks for your help! -- Tatsuaki Wada Dept. Electrical and Electronic Engineering Ibaraki University 4-12-1 Nakanarusawa, Hitachi, 316, Japan. e-mail: wada@ee.ibaraki.ac.jp From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 16 23:58:42 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA24656 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 16 May 1995 23:58:42 -0700 Received: from linc.cis.upenn.edu (root@LINC.CIS.UPENN.EDU [158.130.12.3]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA24650 for ; Tue, 16 May 1995 23:58:40 -0700 Received: from gradient.cis.upenn.edu (GRADIENT.CIS.UPENN.EDU [158.130.4.2]) by linc.cis.upenn.edu (8.6.10/UPenn 1.4) with SMTP id CAA01214 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 02:58:39 -0400 Received: by gradient.cis.upenn.edu id AA22880; Wed, 17 May 1995 02:58:39 +0500 From: dherbst@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Darrel Herbst) Posted-Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 02:58:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <9505170658.AA22880@gradient.cis.upenn.edu> Subject: eide w/ >1024 cyl. To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 02:58:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23-upenn2.8] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1028 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I didn't see anything about this in the FAQs, if anyone can help I'd appreciate it. I'm trying to get FreeBSD 2.0-950412-SNAP installed on my second HD - a Seagate ST-5850 ata (eide controller). The CMOS settings of the computer show the correct number of cyl,head,sect - 1656,16,63. The problem seems to be that either the controller, or the disk itself is trying to play some kind of trick so that the drive looks like it has less than 1024 cyl. FreeBSD's (and Linux') fdisk shows the geometry to be half the number of cyl, and 2x the number of heads. Now, I think I installed the kernel with the boot/cpio floppies, but when I try to boot the kernel from the seagate disk, it goes as far as mounting root but aborts with this message: Can't handle 32heads from partition table ( controller value 16 restored) Panic, cannot mount root. When it tries to recognize the drive, it lists it as: wd1: 1656C 16H ... Anyone know how to handle this? Thanks for your help and time! dherbst@gradient.cis.upenn.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 17 00:59:45 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA27525 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 1995 00:59:45 -0700 Received: from westhill.cdrom.com (westhill.cdrom.com [192.216.223.57]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA27518 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 00:59:44 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by westhill.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id AAA25459 ; Wed, 17 May 1995 00:59:38 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: westhill.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Gang-Ryung Uh cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ntpdate In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 16 May 1995 21:19:34 EDT." <199505170119.VAA03580@delta.cs.fsu.edu> Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 00:59:37 -0700 Message-ID: <25458.800697577@westhill.cdrom.com> From: Gary Palmer Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199505170119.VAA03580@delta.cs.fsu.edu>, Gang-Ryung Uh writes: ># ntpdate gatekeeper.dec.com >16 May 20:18:29 ntpdate: no server suitable for synchronization found Gatekeeper no longer provides NTP time services - try inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com for that now. THat's what I use. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 17 01:08:43 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id BAA28422 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 1995 01:08:43 -0700 Received: from late5.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de (late5.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de [131.188.254.132]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id BAA28408 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 01:08:38 -0700 Received: (from eilts@localhost) by late5.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA16512 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 17 May 1995 10:08:25 +0200 From: Hinrich Eilts Message-Id: <199505170808.KAA16512@late5.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de> Subject: rm: operation not permitted To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 10:08:25 +0200 (MESZ) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 552 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk By an unknown reason, I have some wrong entries on disk with random dev and mode owner (at last) bits, e.g. an character-device in my homedirectory. Every time if I try to remove it with rm, I got "operation not permitted", even as root. Fsck say nothing. How can I remove this entries? Hinrich -- Hinrich Eilts Uni: eilts@late.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de | G i b D O S | Priv.: eilts@tor.dialin.rrze.uni-erlangen.de | k e i n e | http://late5.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de/user/eilts.html | C h a n c e ! | From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 17 05:13:17 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA01545 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 1995 05:13:17 -0700 Received: from irbs.irbs.com ([199.182.75.129]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id FAA01539 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 05:13:14 -0700 Received: (from jc@localhost) by irbs.irbs.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id IAA09130 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 17 May 1995 08:12:29 -0400 From: John Capo Message-Id: <199505171212.IAA09130@irbs.irbs.com> Subject: Re: ntpdate To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 08:12:27 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <25458.800697577@westhill.cdrom.com> from "Gary Palmer" at May 17, 95 00:59:37 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 437 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gary Palmer writes: > > In message <199505170119.VAA03580@delta.cs.fsu.edu>, Gang-Ryung Uh writes: > ># ntpdate gatekeeper.dec.com > >16 May 20:18:29 ntpdate: no server suitable for synchronization found > > Gatekeeper no longer provides NTP time services - try > inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com for that now. THat's what I use. > A semi-current list of time servsers can be found at: louie.udel.edu in /pub/ntp/doc/clock.txt John Capo From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 17 06:31:32 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA03293 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 1995 06:31:32 -0700 Received: from vhf.dataradio.com (vhf.dataradio.com [198.168.41.55]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA03287 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 06:31:28 -0700 Received: from dri.UUCP (udri@localhost) by vhf.dataradio.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with UUCP id JAA05173 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 17 May 1995 09:32:56 -0400 Message-Id: <199505171332.JAA05173@vhf.dataradio.com> Received: by dri (UUXFER v1.3d); Wed 17 May 1995 09:29:38 EDT From: "Andrew Webster" To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 09:28:21 EST5EDT Subject: Re: rm: operation not permitted X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Andrew Webster" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > By an unknown reason, I have some wrong entries on disk with random > dev and mode owner (at last) bits, e.g. an character-device in my > homedirectory. > Every time if I try to remove it with rm, I got "operation not permitted", > even as root. Fsck say nothing. How can I remove this entries? You problem is that there is a mode flag that can get set, usually on the kernel to prevent removal and so forth. Use the "ls -lo" command to see if the "schg" flag appears. If it does, you will need to use the chflags program to remove this flag. I hope this helps you! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Webster Network Manager / Special Projects Dataradio Inc. 200-5500 Royalmount Ave. TEL: +1 514 737 0020 Town of Mount Royal, QC, CANADA H4P 1H7 FAX: +1 514 737 7883 http://www.dataradio.com Email: awebster@dataradio.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 17 07:28:11 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA04803 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 1995 07:28:11 -0700 Received: from ocisi.france-telecom.fr ([193.248.248.66]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA04792 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 07:27:58 -0700 Received: ocisi.france-telecom.fr id AA10095; Wed, 17 May 95 16:16:26+010 Date: Wed, 17 May 95 16:16:26+010 From: dfarhi@ocisi.france-telecom.fr (Daniel FARHI) Message-Id: <9505171516.AA10095@ocisi.france-telecom.fr> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Floppie disk boot Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk how can i create a floppie disk bootable ? Thank you, goot bye. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 17 07:45:44 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA05383 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 1995 07:45:44 -0700 Received: from mail.bw.lgca.ohio.gov (mail.bw.lgca.ohio.gov [156.63.242.129]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id HAA05376 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 07:45:39 -0700 Received: from localhost (ram@localhost) by mail.bw.lgca.ohio.gov (8.3/8.3) id MAA01078; Wed, 17 May 1995 12:44:31 -0400 From: Ronald Matuszak Message-Id: <199505171644.MAA01078@mail.bw.lgca.ohio.gov> Subject: Pine port???? To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 12:44:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1149 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have recently upgraded from our old 486 running FreeBSD 1.0 to our new 90 mhz pentium running FreeBSD 2.0 :-) I am <> to install Pine3.91. I could not get it to compile on our old 486 with 1.0 . So I waited until The new system was up and running. I ran the makefile from the FreeBSD 2.0 cd and it ftp'd the tar.z file and then after I copied the pine directory from "ports" onto my hard drive it began to compile. Pico works great but Pine did not compile at all. I read something from cdrom.com that said that users of FreeBSD 2.0R or earlyer had to have some sort of new tree installed in order to make the ports work. Is this correct. I am a unix newbie amd have some other newbies helping me and I wouldmlike to know if I am missing anything to install Pine3.91 I know it is a pretty vague question... I am willing to spend all the time needed to make it work. Can you please let nme know if the stuff on thye cd is valid or do I need to compile it some other way. Thanks for all your help... I only need to get Pine to work so my boss (a mac only guy) will get off my back because he says elm is to hard to use :-( From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 17 09:11:54 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA07523 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 1995 09:11:54 -0700 Received: from nauplius.rsmas.miami.edu (nauplius.rsmas.miami.edu [129.171.102.27]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA07517 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 09:11:52 -0700 Received: (from ivan@localhost) by nauplius.rsmas.miami.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA00416 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 17 May 1995 11:43:07 -0400 From: Ivan Lima Message-Id: <199505171543.LAA00416@nauplius.rsmas.miami.edu> Subject: SNAP 950412 & 3com509 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 11:43:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 586 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi folks, I just upgraded to the SNAP 950412 to make the system recognize my Colorado tape drive and it does now. But the problem is that I can't ftp or connect to remote hosts. The e-mail and connection to hosts in my site works fine. My ethernet board is a 3com509 and I read something in the newsgroup about problems with SNAP-950412 and 3com509 boards. Does anyone know the solution for this problem? Since I'm not a subscriber to questions-FreeBSD, I'd appreciate if you would email your answers/suggestions directly to me. Thanks a lot, -ivan- ivan@nauplius.rsams.miami.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 17 09:16:32 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA07753 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 1995 09:16:32 -0700 Received: from bud.indirect.com (root@bud.indirect.com [165.247.1.10]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA07747 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 09:16:31 -0700 Received: from slip53.indirect.com (slip53.indirect.com [165.247.1.53]) by bud.indirect.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA24013 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 09:17:11 -0700 Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 09:17:11 -0700 Message-Id: <199505171617.JAA24013@bud.indirect.com> X-Sender: cicdphx@indirect.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@FreeBSD.org From: cicdphx@indirect.com (Larry Battraw) Subject: CDROM disks Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello! I understand that the software (FreeBSD) can be purchased on CDROM, as can other packages. Is there a list of prices and packages available on CD? Thanks! Larry Battraw (cicdphx@indirect.com) From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 17 10:02:29 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA08945 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 1995 10:02:29 -0700 Received: from wc.cdrom.com (wc.cdrom.com [192.216.223.37]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA08939 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 10:02:28 -0700 Received: from belgarath.it.com.au (root@belgarath.it.com.au [203.8.116.3]) by wc.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA08342 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 10:02:34 -0700 Received: by belgarath.it.com.au (Smail3.1.29.1 #5) id m0sBmTk-00024V5; Thu, 18 May 95 01:01 WET Message-Id: Subject: TCL/TK under XFree 3.1.1 To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 01:01:47 +0800 (WST) From: "Stephen Darragh" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 702 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk G'day... Applications using the TCL and TK libraries won't work for me. This problem occurs whether I use the prepackaged libraries or build them myself. The applications startup fine, and everything looks ok, but no buttons will respond to mouse clicks. Any help would be greatly appreciated. ... Stephen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Stephen Darragh Informed Technology Wembley Downs, Western Australia +61-9-245-2279 srd@it.com.au "My god ain't risen, cos he's sleeping in today." (DAAS) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 17 10:03:48 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA08993 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 1995 10:03:48 -0700 Received: from lirmm.lirmm.fr (lirmm.lirmm.fr [193.49.104.10]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA08987 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 10:03:44 -0700 Received: from lirmm.fr (baobab.lirmm.fr [193.49.106.14]) by lirmm.lirmm.fr (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id TAA21911; Wed, 17 May 1995 19:03:25 +0200 Message-Id: <199505171703.TAA21911@lirmm.lirmm.fr> To: Ivan Lima cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: SNAP 950412 & 3com509 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 17 May 1995 11:43:06 EDT." <199505171543.LAA00416@nauplius.rsmas.miami.edu> Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 19:03:22 +0200 From: "Philippe Charnier" Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Salut, In the message SNAP 950412 & 3com509, Ivan Lima wrote : > Hi folks, I just upgraded to the SNAP 950412 to make the >system recognize my Colorado tape drive and it does now. But the >problem is that I can't ftp or connect to remote hosts. The e-mail and >connection to hosts in my site works fine. My ethernet board is a >3com509 and I read something in the newsgroup about problems with >SNAP-950412 and 3com509 boards. Does anyone know the solution for this >problem? > > Since I'm not a subscriber to questions-FreeBSD, I'd >appreciate if you would email your answers/suggestions directly to me. > I just changed /usr/src/sys/i386/isa/if_ep.c (line 213) - DELAY(1000); + DELAY(3000); And found a no conflicting port/irq for the card. Boot using -c to change the settings until you find a correct one. Then make a new kernel with the correct values. I think that you need to power off then power on the computer to switch DOS/FreeBSD and FReeBSD/DOS (not sure about that). If you have a pci computer, unset plug&play capabilities in the bios and in the card. I also heard that some port/irq choices are slower than others??? -------- -------- Philippe Charnier charnier@lirmm.fr LIRMM, 161 rue Ada, 34392 Montpellier cedex 5 -- France ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 17 10:33:01 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA09471 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 1995 10:33:01 -0700 Received: from leo.ibms.sinica.edu.tw ([140.109.40.249]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA09459 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 10:32:56 -0700 Received: (from taob@localhost) by leo.ibms.sinica.edu.tw (8.6.11/8.6.9) id BAA00268; Thu, 18 May 1995 01:32:13 +0800 Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 01:32:12 +0800 (CST) From: Brian Tao To: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS-L Subject: Synchronizing passwd databases Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk If I wanted to synchronize the local passwd databases on a bunch of FreeBSD machines (not the NIS records), what is the best way of doing this? Is this recommended (or even possible)? So far I've been using an rdist script to distribute the pwd.db, spwd.db, master.passwd and passwd files to all the machines. Do I risk corrupting in-core structures this way? -- Brian ("Though this be madness, yet there is method in't") Tao taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw <-- work ........ play --> taob@io.org From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 17 11:07:27 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA10452 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 1995 11:07:27 -0700 Received: from estienne.cs.berkeley.edu (estienne.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.42.147]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA10444 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 11:07:24 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by estienne.cs.berkeley.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA19913; Wed, 17 May 1995 11:07:17 -0700 Message-Id: <199505171807.LAA19913@estienne.cs.berkeley.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: estienne.cs.berkeley.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Ivan Lima cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: SNAP 950412 & 3com509 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 17 May 1995 11:43:06 EDT." <199505171543.LAA00416@nauplius.rsmas.miami.edu> Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 11:07:17 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi folks, I just upgraded to the SNAP 950412 to make the >system recognize my Colorado tape drive and it does now. But the >problem is that I can't ftp or connect to remote hosts. The e-mail and >connection to hosts in my site works fine. My ethernet board is a >3com509 and I read something in the newsgroup about problems with >SNAP-950412 and 3com509 boards. Does anyone know the solution for this >problem? > > Since I'm not a subscriber to questions-FreeBSD, I'd >appreciate if you would email your answers/suggestions directly to me. > >Thanks a lot, > >-ivan- >ivan@nauplius.rsams.miami.edu Does the ep0 device get probed? Most likely there is a conflict between the ethernet card and some other periferal. If you don't want to rebuild a kernel, you can try disabling any of the devices you don't need from the' boot -c "userconfig" screen. -- Justin T. Gibbs ============================================== TCS Instructional Group - Programmer/Analyst 1 Cory | Po | Danube | Volga | Parker | Torus ============================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 17 11:56:19 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA11551 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 1995 11:56:19 -0700 Received: from mercury.unt.edu (mercury.unt.edu [129.120.1.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA11545 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 11:56:17 -0700 Received: from gab.unt.edu by mercury.unt.edu with SMTP id AA28617 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 17 May 1995 13:56:00 -0500 Received: from GAB/MAILQUEUE by gab.unt.edu (Mercury 1.13); Wed, 17 May 95 13:56:01 CST6CDT Received: from MAILQUEUE by GAB (Mercury 1.13); Wed, 17 May 95 13:55:52 CST6CDT From: "John Booth" Organization: University of North Texas To: Jim Babb , questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 13:55:44 CST6CDT Subject: Re: 3c509B woes ( B models only!) Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <3D4F4AD5273@gab.unt.edu> Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > I've seen this probably on 4 or 5 different computers - > > > the FreeBSD ( including 0412SNAP) doesn't see particular > > > B ( with parallel processing) 3C509B card. > > > The probe is finding the card at 0x300, reports it is in test mode, > then says the EEPROM failed to come ready, which causes a return > value of 0xffff for the PROD_ID, and then the card is ignored. > I tried changing the delays that others have suggested, with no help. > This is with 950412.snap. > > I suspect that 3com has 'improved' the card such that a driver change > is needed. Run the 3c5x9cfg utility, turn OFF the plug-n-play on the cards. Set the adaptor media to what you need ie (BNC,TP, etc.). This worked for me....The cards are actually 3c509C's, the configure utilitie detects them as B's. I've got 2 of them in along with a regular 3c509 working fine. (after the pnp was turned off and media set....I suspect the pnp though). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- College of Arts & Sciences Computing Services John A. Booth, john@gab.unt.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 17 12:22:57 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA11941 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 1995 12:22:57 -0700 Received: from camj.neosoft.com (camj.NeoSoft.COM [198.64.81.208]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA11935 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 12:22:54 -0700 Received: (from cam@localhost) by camj.neosoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA07485; Wed, 17 May 1995 14:22:47 GMT Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 14:22:47 GMT From: Camden Johnson Message-Id: <199505171422.OAA07485@camj.neosoft.com> To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com, stephen@belgarath.it.com.au Subject: Re: TCL/TK under XFree 3.1.1 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm having the same problem on certain applications TkMan and others, tkedit work fine. I think its probably a problem with the tcl/tk release level. I have 4.whatever installed. Cam From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 17 12:42:22 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA12308 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 1995 12:42:22 -0700 Received: from fullfeed (fullfeed.msn.fullfeed.com [199.184.182.42]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA12302 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 12:42:21 -0700 From: erb@msn.fullfeed.com Received: from shell1.msn.fullfeed.com by fullfeed (8.6.9/FF-1.1) id OAA18259; Wed, 17 May 1995 14:42:13 -0500 Received: by shell1.msn.fullfeed.com (8.6.9/SMI-4.1) id OAA13031; Wed, 17 May 1995 14:42:10 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 14:42:10 -0500 Message-Id: <199505171942.OAA13031@shell1.msn.fullfeed.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: fatal: page fault in kernel mode Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk howdy all. I have recently installed freebsd2.0 from the Walnut Creek cdrom. While in general the install went well and I am very happy with the system, I do have the following intermittent problem. After a fresh boot and using the system for 10-20 minutes, whatever program I am using will die with errno 11, then shortly the entire system will croak with a message on the console only: Fatal: page fault in kernel mode 15 lines of other interesting-looking stuff stays on screen for 15 seconds then system reboots Programs which have caused the error include: cc1, gm4, make, emacs and others. After a reboot, I can re-execute the same program and not have any problems for a while. If the system sits around all night without doing anything it is fine. It seems that heavy use triggers the problem. I was hoping that with the small amount of information above (I am giving more details below), someone could point me in a general direction of things I could try to do to fix my problem. A reference to a body of knowledge on the net which I could search would be wonderful. Thanks in advance, Dave erb@fullfeed.com disk: IDE 240MB Maxtor, 64MB swap, 16MB /, all the rest in /usr cpu: Intel 486DX50, also does it with a 486DX266 ram: 16MB kernel: scsi+net, only mod I have made is to set ed0 to irq 10 cards in box: NE2000 clone, #9GXE64 VLB, AHA1542 scsi, generic VLB IDE/floppy/serial board programs which run (not all running at time of crash): nfs, X, emacs-19.28 for X, gcc, xv, a bunch of my own number crunching programs From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 17 12:48:35 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA12373 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 1995 12:48:35 -0700 Received: from mail.bw.lgca.ohio.gov (mail.bw.lgca.ohio.gov [156.63.242.129]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA12367 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 12:48:32 -0700 Received: from localhost (falcon@localhost) by mail.bw.lgca.ohio.gov (8.3/8.3) id RAA01199; Wed, 17 May 1995 17:47:33 -0400 From: Ravi Pina Message-Id: <199505172147.RAA01199@mail.bw.lgca.ohio.gov> Subject: Pine and Pico Porting To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 17:47:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1949 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am in the porcess of setting up my system with 2.0-R, and i ran the port for pine3.91. It gets the file fine, extracts it, and starts to compile, but it get to the following: (sorry for the spam) mh.c:810: warning: passing arg 4 of `scandir' from incompatible pointer type mh.c: In function `mh_append': 61 lines more (40%). Press for more, 'i' to return. mh.c: In function `mh_append': mh.c:1051: warning: passing arg 4 of `scandir' from incompatible pointer type cc -g -O -pipe -c mmdf.c cc -g -O -pipe -c imap2.c cc -g -O -pipe -c pop3.c cc -g -O -pipe -c news.c news.c: In function `news_open': news.c:313: warning: passing arg 4 of `scandir' from incompatible pointer type cc -g -O -pipe -c nntpcunx.c cc -g -O -pipe -c phile.c cc -g -O -pipe -c dummy.c cc -g -O -pipe -c smtp.c cc -g -O -pipe -c nntp.c cc -g -O -pipe -c rfc822.c cc -g -O -pipe -c misc.c cc -g -O -pipe -DSTDPROTO=bezerkproto -DRSH=\"rsh\" -DRSHPATH=\"/usr/bin/rsh\" -c os_bsf.c os_bsf.c:66: conflicting types for `days' mail.h:498: previous declaration of `days' os_bsf.c:69: redefinition of `rfc822_date' env_unix.c:156: `rfc822_date' previously defined here as: {standard input}:3937: FATAL:Symbol _rfc822_date already defined. *** Error code 1 39 lines more (62%). Press for more, 'i' to return. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. and then it compiles pico just fine. I did everything all the docs said (i hope), and even copied over all the stuff for /usr/src like the site says... my boss is getting upset about this... any suggestions other than not to use pine? Thanks! -- Ravi Pina * falcon@mail.bw.lgca.ohio.gov * falcon@eworld.com Finger for PGP Public key... remember, you can never be too sure... "somewhere in the heavens...they are watching" All spelling errors are intentional, and meant to annoy spelling pedants. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 17 12:51:12 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA12437 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 1995 12:51:12 -0700 Received: from copper.cmp.com (copper.cmp.com [198.80.26.247]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA12431 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 12:51:10 -0700 Received: from mailgate.cmp.com ([198.80.26.5]) by copper.cmp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.14/16.2) id AA008640156; Wed, 17 May 1995 15:49:16 -0400 Received: by mailgate.cmp.com with Microsoft Mail id <2FBA7DBA@mailgate.cmp.com>; Wed, 17 May 95 15:50:34 PDT From: Plyaskin Sergey To: questions Subject: RE: Pine port???? Date: Wed, 17 May 95 15:49:00 PDT Message-Id: <2FBA7DBA@mailgate.cmp.com> Encoding: 35 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I did not try to compile pine on the stock 2.0R system. However, on my 950495-SNAP system it compiled just fine without any trouble. You only need to make minor and obvious modifications to the Makefile. If you want, I can give you the pine binary (sorry, FTP only - it's about 2MB big). Serge -splyaski@cmp.com ---------- From: owner-freebsd-questions To: questions Subject: Pine port???? Date: Wednesday, May 17, 1995 12:44PM I have recently upgraded from our old 486 running FreeBSD 1.0 to our new 90 mhz pentium running FreeBSD 2.0 :-) I am <> to install Pine3.91. I could not get it to compile on our old 486 with 1.0 . So I waited until The new system was up and running. I ran the makefile from the FreeBSD 2.0 cd and it ftp'd the tar.z file and then after I copied the pine directory from "ports" onto my hard drive it began to compile. Pico works great but Pine did not compile at all. I read something from cdrom.com that said that users of FreeBSD 2.0R or earlyer had to have some sort of new tree installed in order to make the ports work. Is this correct. I am a unix newbie amd have some other newbies helping me and I wouldmlike to know if I am missing anything to install Pine3.91 I know it is a pretty vague question... I am willing to spend all the time needed to make it work. Can you please let nme know if the stuff on thye cd is valid or do I need to compile it some other way. Thanks for all your help... I only need to get Pine to work so my boss (a mac only guy) will get off my back because he says elm is to hard to use :-( From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 17 12:56:49 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA12559 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 1995 12:56:49 -0700 Received: from mars.csg.peachnet.edu ([168.26.193.19]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA12552 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 12:56:48 -0700 Received: from mercury.csg.peachnet.edu (mercury.CSG.PeachNet.EDU [168.26.193.32]) by mars.csg.peachnet.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA03337 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 15:53:36 -0400 Received: from CCMAIN/SpoolDir by mercury.csg.peachnet.edu (Mercury 1.21); 17 May 95 16:01:12 EST Received: from SpoolDir by CCMAIN (Mercury 1.21); 17 May 95 16:01:02 EST From: "Christian" Organization: Columbus College, Columbus, GA To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 16:00:53 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: How to use floppies Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-ID: <53670E70759@mercury.csg.peachnet.edu> Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The subject says it all....I need to know how to use the floppy drive in FreeBSD. I searched through the FAQs and man pages but I am still confused as to how floppies can be used. I tried to use the program fdformat to try formatting a new floppy disk thinking that this needs to be done as it is in DOS (yuck) but I got I/O errors. I am running FreeBSD 2.0R if this helps. TIA Christian From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 17 13:01:40 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA12675 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 1995 13:01:40 -0700 Received: from copper.cmp.com (copper.cmp.com [198.80.26.247]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA12668 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 13:01:36 -0700 Received: from mailgate.cmp.com ([198.80.26.5]) by copper.cmp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.14/16.2) id AA015390780; Wed, 17 May 1995 15:59:40 -0400 Received: by mailgate.cmp.com with Microsoft Mail id <2FBA802A@mailgate.cmp.com>; Wed, 17 May 95 16:00:58 PDT From: Plyaskin Sergey To: "' freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: gated / routed Date: Wed, 17 May 95 16:00:00 PDT Message-Id: <2FBA802A@mailgate.cmp.com> Encoding: 19 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm sorry if this a silly question... I need gated running on my 950412 system ASAP. Currently, I have routed. Can somebody give me step-by-step instructions how to install gated. What I'm interested in is: 1. Where is the gated binary? (or otherwise how do I start it?) 2. A gated.conf sample file 3. What modifications should be done to netstart (or whatever else files)? More info on my system: 486DX33 /20 MB RAM FreeBSD 950412-SNAP ed0 adapter (SMC 8013W I believe) On the same subnet range (198.80.26.X), I have a DNS server and the mail server (both are HP 9000/807 running gated). My machine will be a dedicated host for majordomo /mailing lists stuff. Thanks for any pointers/info. -Serge splyaski@cmp.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 17 13:34:18 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA13661 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 1995 13:34:18 -0700 Received: from wc.cdrom.com (wc.cdrom.com [192.216.223.37]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA13655 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 13:34:16 -0700 Received: from zed.ludd.luth.se (root@zed.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.33]) by wc.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA15613 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 13:34:20 -0700 Received: from zero.ludd.luth.se (zero.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.35]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id WAA03370 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 22:32:43 +0200 From: Ola Persson Received: (smurfen@localhost) by zero.ludd.luth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) id WAA02662 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 17 May 1995 22:32:42 +0200 Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 22:32:42 +0200 Message-Id: <199505172032.WAA02662@zero.ludd.luth.se> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Booting dos from Boot manager Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello ! I have tried to use the Boot manager in FreeBSD to load DOS. I have FreeBSD on wd0 and DOS on wd1. I do the use boot manager and write MBR in fdisk but it doesn't work for me... It works for all my friends, but not for me... Anyone knowing the answer, please mail me.... Regards, Ola Persson Lulea University of Technology Sweden smurfen@ludd.luth.se From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 17 14:03:01 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA14532 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 1995 14:03:01 -0700 Received: from devnull (devnull.mpd.tandem.com [131.124.4.29]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA14526 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 14:02:58 -0700 Received: from olympus by devnull (8.6.8/8.6.6) id QAA16511; Wed, 17 May 1995 16:02:42 -0500 Received: by olympus (4.1/TSS2.1) id AA09098; Wed, 17 May 95 16:02:52 CDT From: faulkner@mpd.tandem.com (Boyd Faulkner) Message-Id: <9505172102.AA09098@olympus> Subject: Re: TCL/TK under XFree 3.1.1 To: stephen@belgarath.it.com.au (Stephen Darragh) Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 16:02:52 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: from "Stephen Darragh" at May 18, 95 01:01:47 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL17] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 997 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Turn off NumLock. Boyd > > G'day... > > Applications using the TCL and TK libraries won't work for me. This > problem occurs whether I use the prepackaged libraries or build them > myself. > > The applications startup fine, and everything looks ok, but no buttons > will respond to mouse clicks. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > ... Stephen > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Stephen Darragh Informed Technology > Wembley Downs, Western Australia +61-9-245-2279 > srd@it.com.au > > "My god ain't risen, cos he's sleeping in today." > (DAAS) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- _______________________________________________________________________ Boyd Faulkner faulkner@isd.tandem.com _______________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 17 16:52:01 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA17128 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 1995 16:52:01 -0700 Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA17122 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 16:51:59 -0700 Received: from ipxpress.aws.waii.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP id QQyqeh08411; Wed, 17 May 1995 19:51:53 -0400 Received: by ipxpress.aws.waii.com id AA12288 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Wed, 17 May 1995 18:51:50 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 18:51:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Don Dunbar To: Ronald Matuszak Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Pine port???? In-Reply-To: <199505171644.MAA01078@mail.bw.lgca.ohio.gov> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk --------------------- Alex 'The //Other// Enlightened One' Dunbar |||||| Son of Don --- + Tolkien + Star Wars + MST3k + eggdrop botz + TinyTIM = Fun! -- Linux sux! FreeBSD RULES!!! -- On Wed, 17 May 1995, Ronald Matuszak wrote: > I have recently upgraded from our old 486 running FreeBSD 1.0 > to our new 90 mhz pentium running FreeBSD 2.0 :-) > > I am <> to install Pine3.91. I could not get it > to compile on our old 486 with 1.0 . So I waited until I had the same problem with both 1.1 and 2.0... I got it to work by using NetBSD's defualts by going: make neb IT WORKS. TRY IT. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 17 17:05:08 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA17706 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 1995 17:05:08 -0700 Received: from eskimo.com (lparsons@eskimo.com [204.122.16.13]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA17698 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 17:05:07 -0700 Received: by eskimo.com (5.65c/1.35) id AA05116; Wed, 17 May 1995 17:05:03 -0700 Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 17:05:03 -0700 From: lparsons@eskimo.com (Lee Parsons) Message-Id: <199505180005.AA05116@eskimo.com> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: iBCS2 support Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm interested in running the SCO version of Oracle under FreeBSD I know that Soren is working on Linux binary compat. Any chance of FreeBSD 2.05 running SCO Oracle binaries? 2.1? thanx -Parsons lparsons@world.std.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 17 19:53:57 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA22653 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 1995 19:53:57 -0700 Received: from grauna.ax.apc.org (grauna.ibase.br [200.18.178.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA22641 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 19:53:47 -0700 Received: from ax.ibase.org.br (ax.ibase.br [200.18.178.1]) by grauna.ax.apc.org (8.6.11/Revision: 1.58 ) with SMTP id XAA06504 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 23:53:56 -0300 Received: (from uupmlgate) by ax.ibase.org.br (8.6.11/Revision: 1.180 ) id IAA09188 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 17 May 1995 08:26:26 -0300 Received: by pmlgate.pml.com.br id AA10898; Wed, 17 May 1995 08:09:10 -0400 Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 08:09:10 -0400 From: Paulo Wollny Jr Message-Id: <199505171209.AA10898@pmlgate.pml.com.br> Apparently-To: questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, First of all, many thanks for the ones that helped me configure PPP on FreeBSD. I do have another problem now. I got a Pentium motherboard with AWARD BIOS and an Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI adapter. When I try to install FreeBSD on this new system, the standard boot message appears, I hit , it begins to load, and after 3 seconds the machine reboots. Does anyone know how to install FreeBSD in such a system, or if there is any special procedure? Best regards, Paulo Wollny Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 17 21:44:59 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA24828 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 1995 21:44:59 -0700 Received: from zeta (ipdyne12.vir.com [199.202.197.12]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id VAA24822 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 21:44:57 -0700 Received: by zeta (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sBxRk-00001jC; Thu, 18 May 95 00:44 EDT Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 00:44:28 -0400 (EDT) From: RJB X-Sender: root@zeta To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Smail/Sendmail - local/inet config. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk When using Smail, on a local machine as well as when connected to an internet host, what is behind a reliable configuration. I want local mail ie: localuser@zeta to find its way to local user, and remote mail questions@freebsd.org to find its way to, well you know. Robert Burns (procecorjb@vir.com) mtl., ca. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 17 21:55:14 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id VAA24957 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 1995 21:55:14 -0700 Received: from leo ([140.109.40.249]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA24918 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 21:50:32 -0700 Received: (from taob@localhost) by leo (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA00389; Thu, 18 May 1995 12:48:37 +0800 Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 12:48:36 +0800 (CST) From: Brian Tao To: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS-L Subject: rwhod Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk /usr/sbin/rwhod in 950412 exits without an error or syslog message if the /var/rwho/ directory does not exist (which it requires). Perhaps it should not exit so quietly in that condition? -- Brian ("Though this be madness, yet there is method in't") Tao taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw <-- work ........ play --> taob@io.org From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 17 22:20:09 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA25251 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 1995 22:20:09 -0700 Received: from emerald.oz.net (emerald.oz.net [198.68.184.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id WAA25245 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 22:20:08 -0700 Received: from wsantee.oz.net by emerald.oz.net via SMTP (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org id AA02249; Wed, 17 May 95 22:18:02 -0700 Received: (from wsantee@localhost) by wsantee.oz.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) id WAA09785 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 17 May 1995 22:17:58 -0700 From: Wes Santee Message-Id: <199505180517.WAA09785@wsantee.oz.net> Subject: Upgrade path to 2.0.5 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 22:17:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1076 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk With the much anticipated update to FreeBSD 2.0.5, I'm wondering what the easiest upgrade path from 2.0 (April snapshot) to this new release is. First off, what is the easiest way to update the binaries and utilities without overwriting, for example, new software that I've installed? Case in point, if I've got a newer version of sendmail installed and configured than what is going to be shipping with 2.0.5, but I'd still like to update the other binaries in /usr/sbin, is there a way to do it? The only way I can think of is grabbing the source, removing the sendmail (and any other software that I've installed more current versions of) target from the Makefile, recompiling, and going from there. Another consideration is in updated configuration files that have necessary changes for 2.0.5 to work, but which can't overwrite my original files because they have necessary changes that allow my *current* system to work (e.g. sendmail.cf, rc.*, sysconfig, etc). I guess what I'm looking for is an update plan. Any help would be greatly appriciated. Cheers, -Wes From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 17 22:23:42 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA25275 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 1995 22:23:42 -0700 Received: from zeta (ipdyne12.vir.com [199.202.197.12]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA25265 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 22:23:38 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by zeta (8.6.9/8.6.9) id BAA00568; Thu, 18 May 1995 01:03:41 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 01:03:40 -0400 (EDT) From: RJB X-Sender: root@zeta To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: DBM_PAGFINFO_NOT_AVAILABLE - pine (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I been have successfully using MH6 for retrieving mail from a pop3 host with the exception for a few minor bugs. I have re-occuring errors during compilation which prevent me from getting the full pop binary set (Missing popauth). My Pop configuration is as follows: pop on popdir /usr/local/libexec options APOP='"/etc/pop.auth"' MPOP RPOP POPSERVICE=`"pop3"` During compilation I get the following ERRORS: popser.c In function `apop` popser.c:708 'DBM_PAGFNO_NOT_AVAILABLE' undeclared popauth.c:133 (ditto) any one out there have the answers? Robert Burns (procecorjb@vir.com) mtl.,ca. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 17 22:31:58 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA25435 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 1995 22:31:58 -0700 Received: from zeta (ipdyne12.vir.com [199.202.197.12]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA25427 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 22:31:55 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by zeta (8.6.9/8.6.9) id BAA00668; Thu, 18 May 1995 01:31:31 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 01:31:30 -0400 (EDT) From: procecorjb@Vir.com X-Sender: root@zeta To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: DBM_PAGFINFO_NOT_AVAILABLE - pine Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I been have successfully using MH6 for retrieving mail from a pop3 host with the exception for a few minor bugs. I have re-occuring errors during compilation which prevent me from getting the full pop binary set (Missing popauth). My Pop configuration is as follows: pop on popdir /usr/local/libexec options APOP='"/etc/pop.auth"' MPOP RPOP POPSERVICE=`"pop3"` During compilation I get the following ERRORS: popser.c In function `apop` popser.c:708 'DBM_PAGFNO_NOT_AVAILABLE' undeclared popauth.c:133 (ditto) any one out there have the answers? Robert Burns (procecorjb@vir.com) mtl.,ca. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 17 23:36:28 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA26639 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 1995 23:36:28 -0700 Received: from mail02.mail.aol.com (mail02.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.66]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA26633 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 23:36:27 -0700 From: SahagunS@aol.com Received: by mail02.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA118238955; Thu, 18 May 1995 02:35:55 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 02:35:55 -0400 Message-Id: <950518023555_122918958@aol.com> To: terry@cs.weber.edu Cc: Questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: SCSI boards and then some. Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Terry: I'm glad you addressed the issue of performance of the Sound Blaster SCSI board. I had been curious as to what one might expect from such a 'do all' card. When you refered to 'bus mastering', i'm assuming that you were refering to the SCSI bus and not the PC bus. Is it safe to assume that the 'tick' time a task gets is adjustable and not based on the PC's 18 times a second limit? Do you know of any 'visual' X tools, i.e. ones that allow you to interactively design a window and all its widgets? And finally, what is NetBSD? Again, thanks. SahagunS@aol.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 17 23:36:46 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id XAA26651 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 17 May 1995 23:36:46 -0700 Received: from mail04.mail.aol.com (mail04.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.53]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id XAA26645 for ; Wed, 17 May 1995 23:36:45 -0700 From: SahagunS@aol.com Received: by mail04.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA252968972; Thu, 18 May 1995 02:36:12 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 02:36:12 -0400 Message-Id: <950518023612_122919132@aol.com> To: julian@ref.tfs.com Cc: Questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: SCSI boards and then some. Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Julian: Thanks for answering my PC screen sharing question. Is it safe to assume that virtual screens works whether one is working in a terminal mode or in 'X' ? ( or maybe both simultanously? ) Thanks. SahagunS@aol.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 18 00:18:48 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA27258 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 May 1995 00:18:48 -0700 Received: from mail04.mail.aol.com (mail04.mail.aol.com [152.163.172.53]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA27252 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 00:18:47 -0700 From: SahagunS@aol.com Received: by mail04.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA291581496; Thu, 18 May 1995 03:18:16 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 03:18:16 -0400 Message-Id: <950518031815_122937279@aol.com> To: julian@ref.tfs.com Cc: Questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: SCSI boards and then some. Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Julian: Do you know of any 'visual' tools for 'X' to construct windows and widgets interactively? From what I understand, there is a program/task called 'wine' that when run from Linux, allows one to run MS-Windows programs. Does such a thing exist for freeBSD? Thanks Steve. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 18 00:26:00 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA27359 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 May 1995 00:26:00 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA27353 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 00:25:59 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id AAA28760; Thu, 18 May 1995 00:25:54 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199505180725.AAA28760@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: Upgrade path to 2.0.5 To: wsantee@wsantee.oz.net (Wes Santee) Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 00:25:54 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505180517.WAA09785@wsantee.oz.net> from "Wes Santee" at May 17, 95 10:17:57 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1204 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk from an april snapshot you may be able to just recompile and install > > With the much anticipated update to FreeBSD 2.0.5, I'm wondering what > the easiest upgrade path from 2.0 (April snapshot) to this new > release is. > > First off, what is the easiest way to update the binaries and > utilities without overwriting, for example, new software that I've > installed? Case in point, if I've got a newer version of sendmail > installed and configured than what is going to be shipping with 2.0.5, > but I'd still like to update the other binaries in /usr/sbin, is there > a way to do it? The only way I can think of is grabbing the source, > removing the sendmail (and any other software that I've installed more > current versions of) target from the Makefile, recompiling, and going > from there. > > Another consideration is in updated configuration files that have > necessary changes for 2.0.5 to work, but which can't overwrite my > original files because they have necessary changes that allow my > *current* system to work (e.g. sendmail.cf, rc.*, sysconfig, etc). > > I guess what I'm looking for is an update plan. Any help would be > greatly appriciated. > > Cheers, > -Wes > > From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 18 00:55:42 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA27732 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 May 1995 00:55:42 -0700 Received: from gate1.internet-eireann.ie (gate1.internet-eireann.ie [194.9.0.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA27726 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 00:55:36 -0700 Received: from mip1.networx.ie (networx.internet-eireann.ie [194.9.33.49]) by gate1.internet-eireann.ie (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA01457 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 08:39:35 +0100 Received: from mike.networx.ie by mip1.networx.ie Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 08:54:56 BST From: Michael Ryan Subject: FreeBSD 2.0 on WDC AC31000H To: FreeBSD Support Message-Id: Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have tried unsuccessfully to install FreeBSD 2.0 on a Gateway 2000 60MHz Pentium with a WDC AC31000H 1GB hard disk. The disk has 2100 cyls, 16 heads, 63 sec/trk. The FreeBSD slice goes from cylinder 968 to 2100 and the root partition is from cylinder 968 to 1008. The making of the partitions, /dev, etc. goes fine from the boot diskette, but when it says remove the boot diskette to boot from the hard disk, it just doesn't work. The MBR asks which O/S do I want to boot from but only DOS works. As you can see, the root partition is below 1K cylinders. Is there a list of branded PC configurations available for which FreeBSD is known to work. I've seen the hardware list FAQ on the FreeBSD CD but, frankly, it's not up to much. Thanks for any help, Mike From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 18 02:12:23 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id CAA02076 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 May 1995 02:12:23 -0700 Received: from oro.net (root@au.oro.net [198.68.62.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA02067 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 02:12:17 -0700 From: jgirton@oro.net Received: from jgirton.oro.net (jgirton.oro.net [204.119.228.62]) by oro.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id CAA16315 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 02:12:13 -0700 Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 02:12:13 -0700 Message-Id: <199505180912.CAA16315@oro.net> X-Sender: jgirton@pop3.oro.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: lpd Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm having problems with the printer daemon lpd in freeBSD 2.0 from Walnut Creek. When I try to print (lpr foo.bar) I get this - lpr: connect: no such file or directory jobs queed, but cannot start daemon Then, I run lpd, the file prints perfectly, but I get this message: # May 18 02:1052 localhost kernel: pid 383: lpd: uid0: exited on signal 11. I get a similar message when I boot, about lpd exiting on signal 11. I believe signal 11 is a Segmentation fault. What could be causing this, and how do I fix it. Thanks, John (frustrated) Girton From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 18 02:20:54 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id CAA02549 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 May 1995 02:20:54 -0700 Received: from barney.ife.no (barney.ife.no [128.39.229.49]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id CAA02537 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 02:20:48 -0700 Received: from tigern.ife.no by barney.ife.no (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA10286; Thu, 18 May 1995 11:19:41 +0200 From: stein@ife.no (Stein Morten Sandbech) Received: by tigern.ife.no ; Thu, 18 May 95 11:18:13 +0200 Message-Id: <9505180918.AA07622@tigern.ife.no> Subject: passwd problem. To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Thu, 18 May 95 11:18:12 METDST Cc: stein@ife.no Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, and thaks for a VERY good OS and apps :-) I had one small problem with the SNAP 950412 and passwords. After installing BIN ... XFree86 3.1.1 (except security) I got a problem with setting the password for any user ( including root ). After looking into the problem I noticed that /usr/bin/passwd was owned by bin, and with the s-bit set and the /etc/passwd and /etc/master.passwd owned by root, this operation failed. I changed the owner from bin to root on /usr/bin/passwd, then no problem! Is this a minor bug, or did I screw something up during installation (like not installing security)? Regards /* Stein M Sandbech Email: stein@ife.no ** ** Software Engineer, EDB dept Email: steinms@oslonett.no ** ** Institute for Energy Technology Tel: +47 63 80 60 00 ** ** Box 40, N-2007 Kjeller, NORWAY Fax: +47 63 81 11 68 */ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 18 02:43:39 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id CAA03346 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 May 1995 02:43:39 -0700 Received: from inet-smtp-gw-1.us.oracle.com (inet-smtp-gw-1.us.oracle.com [192.86.155.81]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA03338 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 02:43:35 -0700 Received: from iesun1.ie.oracle.com by inet-smtp-gw-1.us.oracle.com with SMTP (8.6.12/37.7) id CAA03713; Thu, 18 May 1995 02:43:29 -0700 Received: by iesun1.ie.oracle.com (4.1/37.3.TJL.1.84) id AA27230; Thu, 18 May 95 10:44:06 BST Message-Id: <9505180944.AA27230@iesun1.ie.oracle.com> From: Henry Chung Subject: Upgrade path from 2.0R to 2.05R To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Thu, 18 May 95 10:44:04 BST Cc: hchung@ie.oracle.com (Henry Chung) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Is there an easy way (beside buying the 2.05R CD-ROM) to upgrade from 2.0R (CD-ROM version without any patch) to 2.05R? Regards, -- Henry Hyen-Vui Chung ================================================================================ ICL Product Line Developer Oracle Europe Manufacturing Ltd. e-mail: hchung@ie.oracle.com Maretimo Court, Temple Road Tel : 353 12834700 ext 220 Blackrock, Co. Dublin Fax : 353 12834732 Republic of Ireland. -----------------------------------oOo------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 18 03:19:16 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id DAA04636 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 May 1995 03:19:16 -0700 Received: from inet-smtp-gw-1.us.oracle.com (inet-smtp-gw-1.us.oracle.com [192.86.155.81]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id DAA04630 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 03:19:15 -0700 Received: from iesun1.ie.oracle.com by inet-smtp-gw-1.us.oracle.com with SMTP (8.6.12/37.7) id DAA08090; Thu, 18 May 1995 03:19:10 -0700 Received: by iesun1.ie.oracle.com (4.1/37.3.TJL.1.84) id AA29977; Thu, 18 May 95 11:19:47 BST Message-Id: <9505181019.AA29977@iesun1.ie.oracle.com> Date: Thu, 18 May 95 11:19:47 BST From: "Henry Chung " To: mike@networx.ie Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.0 on WDC AC31000H Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Original-To: IEUNIX:mike@networx.ie Original-Cc: IEUNIX:freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In-Reply-To: IEUNIX:owner-freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com's message of 05-18-95 08:54 Mike, I have a WDC AC31000H running both DOS and FreeBSD 2.0 fine, no problem. Are you based in Ireland? Regards, -- Henry Hyen-Vui Chung ================================================================================ ICL Product Line Developer | Oracle Corporation European Porting Centre | Maretimo Court, Temple Road e-mail: hchung@ie.oracle.com | Blackrock, Co. Dublin Tel : 353 1 2834700 ext 220 | Republic of Ireland Fax : 353 1 2834732 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Included Message ---- Received: 05-18-95 11:10 Sent: 05-18-95 08:54 From: IEUNIX:owner-freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com To: FreeBSD Support questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD 2.0 on WDC AC31000H Reply-To: IEUNIX:owner-freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Return-Path: Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have tried unsuccessfully to install FreeBSD 2.0 on a Gateway 2000 60MHz Pentium with a WDC AC31000H 1GB hard disk. The disk has 2100 cyls, 16 heads, 63 sec/trk. The FreeBSD slice goes from cylinder 968 to 2100 and the root partition is from cylinder 968 to 1008. The making of the partitions, /dev, etc. goes fine from the boot diskette, but when it says remove the boot diskette to boot from the hard disk, it just doesn't work. The MBR asks which O/S do I want to boot from but only DOS works. As you can see, the root partition is below 1K cylinders. Is there a list of branded PC configurations available for which FreeBSD is known to work. I've seen the hardware list FAQ on the FreeBSD CD but, frankly, it's not up to much. Thanks for any help, Mike From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 18 05:22:01 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id FAA06894 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 May 1995 05:22:01 -0700 Received: from ibmPCUG.CO.UK (mmdf@Alice.ibmPCUG.CO.UK [192.68.174.71]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id FAA06887 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 05:21:46 -0700 From: jake@ibmPCUG.CO.UK Received: from kate.ibmpcug.co.uk by alice.ibmPCUG.CO.UK id aa10671; 18 May 95 13:00 BST Subject: Re: AWARD Bios (was: ) To: Paulo Wollny Jr Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 12:59:17 +0100 (BST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505171209.AA10898@pmlgate.pml.com.br> from "Paulo Wollny Jr" at May 17, 95 08:09:10 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL2] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1116 Message-ID: <9505181259.aa14854@kate.ibmpcug.co.uk> Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I got a Pentium motherboard with AWARD BIOS and an Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI > adapter. > When I try to install FreeBSD on this new system, the standard boot message > appears, I hit , it begins to load, and after 3 seconds the machine > reboots. I have the same problem. 2 computers both are Award BIOS, 1 is a pentium and 1 is 486/DX2 Vesa The installation of 950322 and earlier revealed that problem on both. 950412 installed nicley on the Pentium but the 486 still reboots while the "|/-\" thingy rotates, (after the cpio disk is taken out to do a reboot from hard disk) I think it must be a problem to do with the interaction with Award Bios as Ami Bios computers that I have installed on are fine. I also had the problem (on both machines) of the floppies booting blind and then causing a freeze, I got round that by booting a NetBSD floppy! and very quickly at the "Boot: " prompt switching disks to freebsd and typing "kernel" :-) Regards, -- Jake Dias jake@ibmpcug.co.uk ...!ibmpcug!jake My PGP Key? - finger jake@ibmpcug.co.uk or email with Subject: get pgp key From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 18 06:17:05 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA07794 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 May 1995 06:17:05 -0700 Received: from wc.cdrom.com (wc.cdrom.com [192.216.223.37]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA07785 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 06:17:04 -0700 Received: from localhost (jasper.ncbc.edu [199.86.32.171]) by wc.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id GAA22127 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 06:17:05 -0700 Received: from h002.ncbc.edu (h002.ncbc.edu [199.199.28.2]) by localhost (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA23219 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 08:14:27 GMT Message-Id: <199505180814.IAA23219@localhost> Date: Thu, 18 May 95 08:13:17 -0700 From: Sean McGee Organization: North Central University X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (Windows; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.security To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: WWW without httpd Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk To avoid having to buy, install, and maintain a http server, yet have the ability to respond to http request, I did the following. Please tell me if there are any potential security risks. (I run FreeBSD 2.0R (4.2BSD)) My /etc/services listens to port 80(default) for http requests. So in my inetd.conf I simply add a line: www stream tcp nowait root /bin/cat cat /filename.html Now, when an http client contacts that port, the file 'filename.html' is catted back to them and is performing the function of a 'poor man's http server' I have now assigned several ports to do the same thing in order to layer pages. I have even assigned a .gif file to a port and as long as the http client is told that it is a gif, then it has no problems displaying it as a gif. example: http://some.place.com:80 and http://some.place.com:80/bogusfile.gif do the exact same thing, but the client sees the 'bogusfile.gif' and displays the file as a gif. My questions are: What is the catch? Have I missed something? Yes, I know. This is very CHEAP. But it costs nothing. TIA, -sean smmcgee@ncbc.edu sysadmin@ncbc.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 18 06:53:21 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA08617 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 May 1995 06:53:21 -0700 Received: from copper.cmp.com (copper.cmp.com [198.80.26.247]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA08611 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 06:53:19 -0700 Received: from mailgate.cmp.com ([198.80.26.5]) by copper.cmp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.14/16.2) id AA154395083; Thu, 18 May 1995 09:51:24 -0400 Received: by mailgate.cmp.com with Microsoft Mail id <2FBB7B56@mailgate.cmp.com>; Thu, 18 May 95 09:52:38 PDT From: Plyaskin Sergey To: "' freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: AWARD BIOS Date: Thu, 18 May 95 09:52:00 PDT Message-Id: <2FBB7B56@mailgate.cmp.com> Encoding: 22 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I got a Pentium motherboard with AWARD BIOS and an Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI > adapter. > When I try to install FreeBSD on this new system, the standard boot message > appears, I hit , it begins to load, and after 3 seconds the machine > reboots. > > Does anyone know how to install FreeBSD in such a system, or if there is any > special procedure? > Try tapping Del key during boot. You only need to do it once when you boot for the first time. After that the problem disappears. That helped in my case. -Serge > > Paulo Wollny Jr. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 18 10:11:51 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA13047 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 May 1995 10:11:51 -0700 Received: from kci.kciLink.com (root@kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA13041 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 10:11:46 -0700 Received: from kci.kciLink.com (khera@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kci.kciLink.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA22256 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 13:11:42 -0400 Message-Id: <199505181711.NAA22256@kci.kciLink.com> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: iScreen seg faults Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 13:11:42 -0400 From: Vivek Khera Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I installed the iScreen package on my system (FreeBSD 2.0.950412-SNAP) using the FreeBSD 2.0 package. Whenever I run it, it dies on signal 11, but leaves the screen and window shell processes running. I get dropped back to my original shell, and those other processes are still alive. So I fetched the screen 3.6.2 sources from a GNU site and compiled those. I get the same error. Has anyone gotten screen to run under the 950412 Snapshot? I'm recompiling now with the screen debugging output (it takes a while as my freebsd machine is an old 386SX-25... Thanks for any insight. v. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 18 10:28:41 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA13431 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 May 1995 10:28:41 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA13425 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 10:28:39 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA15601; Thu, 18 May 95 11:21:44 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9505181721.AA15601@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: SCSI boards and then some. To: SahagunS@aol.com Date: Thu, 18 May 95 11:21:43 MDT Cc: Questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <950518023555_122918958@aol.com> from "SahagunS@aol.com" at May 18, 95 02:35:55 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm glad you addressed the issue of performance of the Sound Blaster SCSI > board. I had been curious as to what one might expect from such a 'do all' > card. The Adaptec controller with built in sound *will* do bus mastering. > When you refered to 'bus mastering', i'm assuming that you were refering > to the SCSI bus and not the PC bus. No, I was referring to the PC bus. A bus mastering controller (like *most* SCSI controllers and unlike *most* IDE/EIDE) offloads some of the processing from the main processer by doing the memory transfers itself. The salient point is that low quality processors and motherboards may have a problem with it, but if they don't, you will get a significant performance boost if your OS can handle async I/O (ie: it is a preemptive multitasker, unlike DOS or Windows pre Win95). > Is it safe to assume that the 'tick' time a task gets is adjustable and > not based on the PC's 18 times a second limit? The amount of time a task gets is based on two things: it's quantum and whether it requests a "slow" operation. A task gives away the processer voluntarily (a "voluntary context switch") when it performs an operation that can take place asynchronously but which it requires the results of to continue processing. Like a disk read. A task has the processer taken away from it (an "involuntary context switch") when the process has used its entire processing "quantum". This "quantum" is what you called "the 'tick' time a task gets". Without RealTime extensions, the tick time is *not* adjustable. However, since the context switch in this case is involuntary, the machine will be able to more fairly divide the CPU among a number of tasks. For instance, in Windows, if a process does not volunarily yield the processor, all other tasks will hang except the task running until it does. > Do you know of any 'visual' X tools, i.e. ones that allow you to > interactively design a window and all its widgets? There are many of them. There is currently a thread on this topic in the news group comp.windows.x.motif, which is probably the best place to ask, although there are people who advocate tcl/tkl based soloutions; I'm not sure about Warner Losh's current opinion, but Object-Interface Builder from PARC Place software will let you build apps as well. > And finally, what is NetBSD? A BSD 4.4 derived OS that runs on several platforms. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 18 10:30:56 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA13491 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 May 1995 10:30:56 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA13485 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 10:30:55 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA15617; Thu, 18 May 95 11:24:08 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9505181724.AA15617@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: SCSI boards and then some. To: SahagunS@aol.com Date: Thu, 18 May 95 11:24:07 MDT Cc: julian@ref.tfs.com, Questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <950518031815_122937279@aol.com> from "SahagunS@aol.com" at May 18, 95 03:18:16 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > From what I understand, there is a program/task called 'wine' that when > run from Linux, allows one to run MS-Windows programs. Does such a thing > exist for freeBSD? Yes, WINE will run under FreeBSD. No, it won't run all Windows programs. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 18 10:33:34 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA13542 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 May 1995 10:33:34 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA13530 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 10:33:32 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA15630; Thu, 18 May 95 11:25:56 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9505181725.AA15630@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: SCSI boards and then some. To: SahagunS@aol.com Date: Thu, 18 May 95 11:25:56 MDT Cc: julian@ref.tfs.com, Questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <950518023612_122919132@aol.com> from "SahagunS@aol.com" at May 18, 95 02:36:12 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Thanks for answering my PC screen sharing question. Is it safe to assume > that virtual screens works whether one is working in a terminal mode or in > 'X' ? ( or maybe both simultanously? ) Both simultaneously. You can switch between them, even if one is X and one is text. That's pretty much the point. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 18 11:29:48 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA15107 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 May 1995 11:29:48 -0700 Received: from stellar.comnet.com (NS.COMNET.COM [198.60.58.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA15099 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 11:29:47 -0700 Received: from provo6.comnet.com (provo6.comnet.com [199.104.67.105]) by stellar.comnet.com (8.6.7/8.6.5uucc-a) with SMTP id MAA27353 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 12:38:13 -0600 Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 12:38:13 -0600 Message-Id: <199505181838.MAA27353@stellar.comnet.com> X-Sender: jcold@utw.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@FreeBSD.org From: jcold@utw.com (S. Jeff Cold) X-Mailer: Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Question: Does FreeBSD 2.0.5 support any PCI Ethernet cards ? >>>>>>>>>>>If the mailbox is rockn', please come a knockn'<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< >>>>>S. Jeff Cold, CNI/CNE >>>>>CSIS Professor, Utah Valley State College >>>>>AKA: Norm Abrams Wannabe >>>>>preferred: jcold@uvsc.edu >>>>>VOX: (801) 222-8851 >>>>>HOM: (801) 785-7908 -PPP rejected- >>>>>FAX: (801) 224-2934 >>>>>SNAIL: 175 W. 1300 N. PG, UT 84062-3809<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 18 11:47:58 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA15615 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 May 1995 11:47:58 -0700 Received: from relay4.UU.NET (relay4.UU.NET [192.48.96.14]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA15608 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 11:47:56 -0700 Received: from asylum.asylum.org by relay4.UU.NET with ESMTP id QQyqhf15294; Thu, 18 May 1995 14:47:48 -0400 Received: (from dlr@localhost) by asylum.asylum.org (8.6.10/8.6.9) id NAA02207; Thu, 18 May 1995 13:46:50 -0500 From: dlr Message-Id: <199505181846.NAA02207@asylum.asylum.org> Subject: Re: SCSI boards and then some. To: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 13:46:49 -0500 (CDT) Cc: SahagunS@aol.com, julian@ref.tfs.com, Questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9505181724.AA15617@cs.weber.edu> from "Terry Lambert" at May 18, 95 11:24:07 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 389 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > From what I understand, there is a program/task called 'wine' that when > > run from Linux, allows one to run MS-Windows programs. Does such a thing > > exist for freeBSD? > > Yes, WINE will run under FreeBSD. > > No, it won't run all Windows programs. Will it run quicken? Quicken is the only dos/windoz program that I still use, everything else has gone to unix! dave From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 18 12:25:03 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA16228 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 May 1995 12:25:03 -0700 Received: from saul4.u.washington.edu (spaz@saul4.u.washington.edu [140.142.83.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA16218 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 12:25:00 -0700 Received: by saul4.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00437; Thu, 18 May 95 12:21:21 -0700 X-Sender: spaz@saul4.u.washington.edu Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 12:21:18 -0700 (PDT) From: John Utz To: dlr Cc: Terry Lambert , SahagunS@aol.com, julian@ref.tfs.com, Questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: SCSI boards and then some. In-Reply-To: <199505181846.NAA02207@asylum.asylum.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there! On Thu, 18 May 1995, dlr wrote: > > > > > From what I understand, there is a program/task called 'wine' that when > > > run from Linux, allows one to run MS-Windows programs. Does such a thing > > > exist for freeBSD? > > > > Yes, WINE will run under FreeBSD. > > > > No, it won't run all Windows programs. > > > Will it run quicken? Quicken is the only dos/windoz program that I still > use, everything else has gone to unix! > If u still have quicken 5 for DOS then u can defitely use it by using pcemu! been there! done that! this also goes for a lot of other old crusty dos stuff that beats the pants off of any similar apps that the pd world has to offer ( lo, tho it pains me greatly to admit that! ) try Word 5.5 or a older version of the Borland Spread sheet fer instance... its also useful for running any of those 80 billion or so motorola assemblers .... > > dave > ******************************************************************************* John Utz spaz@stein.u.washington.edu idiocy is the impulse function in the convolution of life From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 18 13:00:41 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA16940 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 May 1995 13:00:41 -0700 Received: from fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.171]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA16927 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 13:00:38 -0700 Received: by fslg8.fsl.noaa.gov (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA29287; Thu, 18 May 95 19:59:34 GMT Received: from junco.fsl.noaa.gov by yarmouth.fsl.noaa.gov (1.38.193.4/SMI-4.1 (1.38.193.4)) id AA07411; Thu, 18 May 1995 16:00:08 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 16:00:08 -0400 From: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Message-Id: <9505182000.AA07411@yarmouth.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by junco.fsl.noaa.gov (1.37.109.16/SMI-4.1 (1.37.109.16)) id AA264947202; Thu, 18 May 1995 14:00:02 -0600 To: dlr@asylum.org Cc: terry@cs.weber.edu, SahagunS@aol.com, julian@ref.tfs.com, Questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505181846.NAA02207@asylum.asylum.org> (message from dlr on Thu, 18 May 1995 13:46:49 -0500 (CDT)) Subject: Re: SCSI boards and then some. Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "dlr" == dlr writes: dlr> Will it run quicken? Quicken is the only dos/windoz program dlr> that I still use, everything else has gone to unix! Same here---at least until I finish my tcl/tk version. And nope, WINE doesn't run quicken. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Lab, Boulder Colorado USA Shave one eyebrow. -- One of 120 ways to annoy your roommate. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 18 13:32:31 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA17588 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 May 1995 13:32:31 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA17582 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 13:32:28 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA16572; Thu, 18 May 95 14:24:13 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9505182024.AA16572@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: SCSI boards and then some. To: dlr@asylum.org (dlr) Date: Thu, 18 May 95 14:24:12 MDT Cc: SahagunS@aol.com, julian@ref.tfs.com, Questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505181846.NAA02207@asylum.asylum.org> from "dlr" at May 18, 95 01:46:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > From what I understand, there is a program/task called 'wine' that when > > > run from Linux, allows one to run MS-Windows programs. Does such a thing > > > exist for freeBSD? > > > > Yes, WINE will run under FreeBSD. > > > > No, it won't run all Windows programs. > > Will it run quicken? Quicken is the only dos/windoz program that I still > use, everything else has gone to unix! WINE will not run Quicken on any platform. WINE is kinda wierd in the way it does coverage percentage reporting; what they do is run the program until it hits an unimplemented interface, counting the interfaces hit up to that point. Then they report n/(n+1) as the coverage percentage, which is invariably in the high 90th percentile. This is the same thing that the Lesstif project (with due respect to the people working on both) does to get it's coverage percentage of the Motif API. A more accurate/fair coverage percentage could be generated with a full branch path analysis of the interfaces a program calls; for a Windows program, this would mean you would need sources or you would need a testbed sufficiently complex that it might as well be an implementation of the ABI instead of a metric gathering mechanism. Wine is maybe 30% of Windows, and 5% of WIN32S, if you include VXD and DLL support requirements. >From my API coverage metrics, Lesstif is edging up on 8% implementation, while my own code is closing in on 24% (6% shy of the 30% for Wine; it's arguable whether a Windows or a Motif implementation is more difficult). Part of my reason for working on something like this at all is to document real man-hour requirements for such a project: I think many of the projects are taking too long to accomplish too little, something I think you can blame partly on documentation and partly on starting something without clear goals in mind (the way a lot of volunteer projects are run). Of course, this being a free project itself, I haven't gotten any metrics yet. 8-). Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 18 14:11:24 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA18370 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 May 1995 14:11:24 -0700 Received: from waena.maui.com (langfod@waena.mrtc.maui.com [199.4.33.17]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA18364 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 14:11:21 -0700 Received: (from langfod@localhost) by waena.maui.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA23599 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 18 May 1995 11:13:50 -1000 Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 11:13:50 -1000 From: David Langford Message-Id: <199505182113.LAA23599@waena.maui.com> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Problems with SUP Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am quite used to using SUP, however since moving to FreeBSD I havent managed to get it to work for the FreeBSD sources. I have used about three different versions (?) of the sup program compiled my self and out of packages. This last attempt was from the sup program founf in the very current packages tree. I am using the supfile found in pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current on cdrom.com here. Any help is appreciated. % sup -N -v supfile SUP 8.26 (4.3 BSD) for file supfile at May 17 14:38:13 SUP Upgrade of base at Wed May 17 14:48:19 1995 SUP: Error reading signon reply from fileserver SUP: Upgrade of base aborted at May 17 14:48:19 1995 SUP: Read error on network: Connection reset by peer SUP: Network write timed out SUP Upgrade of bin at Wed May 17 15:00:32 1995 SUP: Error reading signon reply from fileserver SUP: Upgrade of bin aborted at May 17 15:00:32 1995 -David Langford langfod@maui.com -- /--------------------------------------------------------------------\ | David Langford - Kihei, Maui, Hawaii - langfod@maui.com | | Maui Research and Technology Center - Network Manager | \--------------------------------------------------------------------/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 18 14:55:45 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA21054 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 May 1995 14:55:45 -0700 Received: from petrified.cic.net (petrified.cic.net [192.131.22.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA21046 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 14:55:42 -0700 Received: (from altitude@localhost) by petrified.cic.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA24876; Thu, 18 May 1995 17:55:35 -0400 Message-Id: <199505182155.RAA24876@petrified.cic.net> Subject: Re: iScreen seg faults To: khera@kciLink.com (Vivek Khera) Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 17:55:34 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505181711.NAA22256@kci.kciLink.com> from "Vivek Khera" at May 18, 95 01:11:42 pm From: Alex Tang X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 903 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu May 18 13:11:42 1995: you scribbled... > > I installed the iScreen package on my system (FreeBSD 2.0.950412-SNAP) using > the FreeBSD 2.0 package. Whenever I run it, it dies on signal 11, but > leaves the screen and window shell processes running. I get dropped back to > my original shell, and those other processes are still alive. > > So I fetched the screen 3.6.2 sources from a GNU site and compiled those. I > get the same error. > > Has anyone gotten screen to run under the 950412 Snapshot? I'm recompiling > now with the screen debugging output (it takes a while as my freebsd > machine is an old 386SX-25... I found the same problem witn 2.0R. I also found it ONLY happened when screen was installed as setuid root. I fixed (hacked) mine by not making /usr/loca/bin/screen not setuid root. It's ugly, but it works. Does anyone REALLY know what's wrong?? thanx. ....alex... From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 18 15:31:36 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA22110 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 May 1995 15:31:36 -0700 Received: from test.dad.home (benhome.tbcnet.com [205.199.1.108]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA22104 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 15:31:30 -0700 Received: (from ben@localhost) by test.dad.home (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA00150; Thu, 18 May 1995 17:29:28 GMT Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 17:29:25 +0000 () From: Ben Schmidtke X-Sender: ben@test.dad.home To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: gcc for 68HC11 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This probably isn't the right place to ask this, but does anybody there know of someone working on a version of gcc for cross compiling for the Motorola 68HC16? From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 18 15:31:54 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA22120 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 May 1995 15:31:54 -0700 Received: from copper.cmp.com (copper.cmp.com [198.80.26.247]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA22114 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 15:31:51 -0700 Received: from mailgate.cmp.com ([198.80.26.5]) by copper.cmp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.14/16.2) id AA076126195; Thu, 18 May 1995 18:29:55 -0400 Received: by mailgate.cmp.com with Microsoft Mail id <2FBBF4DC@mailgate.cmp.com>; Thu, 18 May 95 18:31:08 PDT From: Plyaskin Sergey To: Bill Fenner , Guy Helmer Cc: "' freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: gated / routed Date: Thu, 18 May 95 18:29:00 PDT Message-Id: <2FBBF4DC@mailgate.cmp.com> Encoding: 21 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thank you guys for responding. I tried to install gated_R3_5Alpha10.tgz by pkg_add. That does not work for me probably because I run 950412 snap and not current. Then I was able to install Alpha9 from ports-2.0. The installation was fine, with just a couple of warnings. I set routedflags to NO and gated to YES and added the line rip yes ; to my /etc/gated.conf file. I only have one NIC and do not use PPP or SLIP so perhaps I do not need packet forwarding. Now, the problem is the same. I can ping hosts on my subnet (i.e 198.80.26.2, 198.80.26.247 and 198.80.26.10). 198.80.26.2 is the gateway to Internet and 198.80.26.10 is DNS server. DNS seems to work okay: if I try nslookup ds2.internic.net, it works. However, I'm still unable to ping any outer hosts. I also can't send email to outside. Inside it works okay. I'm able to send mail from 198.80.26.247 to the outside world so the Internet connection seems to be allright also. Any suggestions? -Serge splyaski@cmp.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 18 15:33:28 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA22174 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 May 1995 15:33:28 -0700 Received: from haven.ios.com (haven.ios.com [198.4.75.45]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA22166 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 15:33:25 -0700 Received: (from rashid@localhost) by haven.ios.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA28857; Thu, 18 May 1995 18:36:04 -0400 From: "Rashid Karimov." Message-Id: <199505182236.SAA28857@haven.ios.com> Subject: Re: WWW without httpd To: smmcgee@ncbc.edu (Sean McGee) Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 18:36:04 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505180814.IAA23219@localhost> from "Sean McGee" at May 18, 95 08:13:17 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1560 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there, > > To avoid having to buy, install, and maintain a http server, yet have > the ability to respond to http request, I did the following. > Please tell me if there are any potential security risks. > > (I run FreeBSD 2.0R (4.2BSD)) Hmmmmm ... Looks to me that you already did 99% of the job and paid 100% of money :) The httpd daemon is free - unless you have to hire somebody to configure it. The httpd binaries for FreeBSD ( which is actually BSD4.4) are available at ftp.freebsd.org - grab them , configure few parameters and rock the planet! > > My /etc/services listens to port 80(default) for http requests. So in my > inetd.conf I simply add a line: > www stream tcp nowait root /bin/cat cat /filename.html > > Now, when an http client contacts that port, the file 'filename.html' > is catted back to them and is performing the function of a > 'poor man's http server' > > I have now assigned several ports to do the same thing in order to layer > pages. > I have even assigned a .gif file to a port and as long as the http client > is told that it is a gif, then it has no problems displaying it as a gif. > example: > http://some.place.com:80 and http://some.place.com:80/bogusfile.gif > do the exact same thing, but the client sees the 'bogusfile.gif' and > displays the file as a gif. > > My questions are: > What is the catch? Have I missed something? The catch is good , but you miss a lot - actually you don't have the protocol at all - but if you're satisfied with it, enjoy the ride :) Rashid From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 18 15:41:25 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA23012 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 May 1995 15:41:25 -0700 Received: from trout.sri.MT.net (trout.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.12]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA22984 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 15:41:20 -0700 Received: (from nate@localhost) by trout.sri.MT.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) id QAA20099; Thu, 18 May 1995 16:39:45 -0600 Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 16:39:45 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199505182239.QAA20099@trout.sri.MT.net> In-Reply-To: Ben Schmidtke "gcc for 68HC11" (May 18, 5:29pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: Ben Schmidtke , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: gcc for 68HC11 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > This probably isn't the right place to ask this You're absolutely correct there. > but does anybody there > know of someone working on a version of gcc for cross compiling for the > Motorola 68HC16? There isn't one for the HC16, but Cognitive had a version for the HC11 that would work. Send me private email for details. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 18 15:46:01 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA23542 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 May 1995 15:46:01 -0700 Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA23536 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 15:45:59 -0700 Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14533(5)>; Thu, 18 May 1995 15:45:19 PDT Received: from localhost by crevenia.parc.xerox.com with SMTP id <49859>; Thu, 18 May 1995 15:45:09 -0700 X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6 4/21/95 To: Plyaskin Sergey cc: Bill Fenner , Guy Helmer , "' freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: gated / routed In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 May 95 18:29:00 PDT." <2FBBF4DC@mailgate.cmp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 15:44:58 PDT From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <95May18.154509pdt.49859@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <2FBBF4DC@mailgate.cmp.com> you write: >I set routedflags to NO and gated to YES and >added the line >rip yes ; >to my /etc/gated.conf file. I only have one NIC and do not use PPP or SLIP >so perhaps I do not need packet forwarding. With only one interface, and with only "rip yes" in your gated.conf file, running gated is exactly like running routed, so I'm still not sure why you need to be running gated. >However, I'm still unable to ping any outer hosts. What does your routing table look like? What machine is your router? Can you use the "ripquery" that came with gated to query your router, to find out what it is advertising? Perhaps you would do best with just a static default route. Bill From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 18 18:22:28 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA01634 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 May 1995 18:22:28 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA01625 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 18:22:27 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id SAA02403; Thu, 18 May 1995 18:22:26 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199505190122.SAA02403@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Mitsumi help To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 18:22:26 -0700 (PDT) Cc: chong@eecs.ukans.edu Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1101 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk anyone more knowledgeable about mitsumi drives able to comment...? I've never even seen one.. julian Forwarded message: >From chong@eecs.ukans.edu Thu May 18 13:10:23 1995 Message-ID: <199505182011.PAA01587@herschel.eecs.ukans.edu.eecs.ukans.edu> From: Meng Kam Chong Subject: Re: The small program To: julian@ref.tfs.com (Julian Elischer) Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 15:11:55 -0600 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199505042347.QAA00503@ref.tfs.com> from "Julian Elischer" at May 4, 95 04:47:37 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 513 > > > > > Hi, > > > > I have tried to install the BSD to my 486 machine. But I was not success > > because I do not have a cdrom reader that can be recognized by BSD. > > what kind do you have? I have a Mitsumi(2X) cdrom. It is connected to a sound card. I hear that the Mitsumi cdrom that connected to a Mitsumi cdrom interface cards will be supported. Is that true? What is the model for the Mitsumi cdrom interface card? Do you have any idea how much for the card? Thanks. Wesley Chong From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 18 18:38:59 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA02972 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 May 1995 18:38:59 -0700 Received: from mail.holonet.net (root@guardian.holonet.net [198.207.169.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA02962 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 18:38:57 -0700 From: justin.kuntz@ftscorp.com Received: from frontier (root@localhost) by mail.holonet.net with UUCP id SAA17495; Thu, 18 May 1995 18:19:24 -0700 Received: by ftscorp.com id 0SJ6R002 Thu, 18 May 95 20:18:38 -0600 Message-ID: <9505182018.0SJ6R00@ftscorp.com> Organization: Frontier Technology Systems Corp. X-Mailer: TBBS/PIMP v3.25 Date: Thu, 18 May 95 20:18:38 -0600 Subject: PPP To: questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I would like information on configuring PPP on FreeBSD... I have read the FAQ that comes on the Walnut Creek CD-ROM, but I would like more information. Is there anyone out there who can help me? Thank you! Justin From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 18 18:43:17 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA03453 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 May 1995 18:43:17 -0700 Received: from mail.holonet.net (root@guardian.holonet.net [198.207.169.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA03444 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 18:43:16 -0700 From: justin.kuntz@ftscorp.com Received: from frontier (root@localhost) by mail.holonet.net with UUCP id SAA17490; Thu, 18 May 1995 18:19:21 -0700 Received: by ftscorp.com id 0SJ5K001 Thu, 18 May 95 20:18:36 -0600 Message-ID: <9505182018.0SJ5K00@ftscorp.com> Organization: Frontier Technology Systems Corp. X-Mailer: TBBS/PIMP v3.25 Date: Thu, 18 May 95 20:18:36 -0600 Subject: FreeBSD and TBBS To: questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello-- We have the TBBS BBS program running our modem hunt group. We want our callers to be able to use the Interchange option module for TBBS to connect to our FreeBSD machine via a hardwired serial port. Everything seems to be working great, but we have one problem-- FreeBSD always seems to leave the Carrier Detect signal on, and thus TBBS always thinks someone is on the line, so we cannot "grab" it to allow our callers to get access. I am sure there is a way to have FreeBSD only send "login" requests when it detects a Carrier Detect (or a couple of CRLFs or something). Can you please tell me how to do this? Also, we have a Boca 4 port COM I/O adapter. Can this work on FreeBSD to allow us to have 4 hardwired serial connections to our BBS? Thanks! Justin From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 18 19:41:04 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA07150 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 May 1995 19:41:04 -0700 Received: from merde.dis.org (root@[204.188.108.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA07139 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 19:40:59 -0700 Received: from merde.dis.org (localhost.dis.org [127.0.0.1]) by merde.dis.org (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id TAA29793; Thu, 18 May 1995 19:41:07 -0700 Message-Id: <199505190241.TAA29793@merde.dis.org> To: questions@FreeBSD.org cc: Julian Elischer , chong@eecs.ukans.edu Subject: Re: Mitsumi help X-Phone: (510) 849-2230 X-Snail-address: 2560 Bancroft way #51;Berkeley CA 94704-1700 In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 18 May 1995 18:22:26 -0700. <199505190122.SAA02403@ref.tfs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <29787.800851266.1@merde.dis.org> Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 19:41:07 -0700 From: Pete Shipley Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >anyone more knowledgeable about mitsumi drives able to comment...? >I've never even seen one.. > >julian > [...] > >> >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > I have tried to install the BSD to my 486 machine. But I was not succe }ss >> > because I do not have a cdrom reader that can be recognized by BSD. >> >> what kind do you have? > > I have a Mitsumi(2X) cdrom. It is connected to a sound card. I hear that the >Mitsumi cdrom that connected to a Mitsumi cdrom interface cards will be >supported. Is that true? What is the model for the Mitsumi cdrom interface >card? Do you have any idea how much for the card? > yes it will work with the sound card, but you have to play with it, you you have a spare ISA slot just use the interface card it comes with. the interface card come free with the CDrom. I have one in my "no SCSI" PC. -Pete From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 18 20:19:08 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id UAA09445 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 May 1995 20:19:08 -0700 Received: from wc.cdrom.com (wc.cdrom.com [192.216.223.37]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA09439 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 20:19:04 -0700 Received: from belgarath.it.com.au (root@belgarath.it.com.au [203.8.116.3]) by wc.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA29837 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 20:18:50 -0700 Received: by belgarath.it.com.au (Smail3.1.29.1 #5) id m0sBx5s-00024X5; Thu, 18 May 95 12:21 WET Message-Id: Subject: Re: TCL/TK under XFree 3.1.1 To: julian@ref.tfs.com (Julian Elischer) Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 12:21:52 +0800 (WST) From: "Stephen Darragh" Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <199505171934.MAA26026@ref.tfs.com> from "Julian Elischer" at May 17, 95 12:34:25 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1016 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > The applications startup fine, and everything looks ok, but no buttons > > will respond to mouse clicks. > On some versions of the system the 'capsloc or CONTROL Oor is it shift?' > key is permeantly 'down' until you can fix it.. > the way to do this is to use ctl-alt-f1 to get out of X to the first > console.. hit all the shifts and caps (etc) keys a few times > to make sure the system knows what state they are in... > and then hit alt-f4 to go back to the X server.. Nope. :( I should point out that all other applications using other toolkits/widget sets work fine. I'm using Tk 3.6 and Tcl 7.3. ... Stephen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Stephen Darragh Informed Technology Wembley Downs, Western Australia +61-9-245-2279 srd@it.com.au "My god ain't risen, cos he's sleeping in today." (DAAS) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 18 20:20:41 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id UAA09558 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 18 May 1995 20:20:41 -0700 Received: from wc.cdrom.com (wc.cdrom.com [192.216.223.37]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA09552 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 20:20:39 -0700 Received: from belgarath.it.com.au (root@belgarath.it.com.au [203.8.116.3]) by wc.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA29843 for ; Thu, 18 May 1995 20:20:44 -0700 Received: by belgarath.it.com.au (Smail3.1.29.1 #5) id m0sBx96-00024b5; Thu, 18 May 95 12:25 WET Message-Id: Subject: Re: TCL/TK under XFree 3.1.1 To: faulkner@mpd.tandem.com (Boyd Faulkner) Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 12:25:12 +0800 (WST) From: "Stephen Darragh" Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <9505172102.AA09098@olympus> from "Boyd Faulkner" at May 17, 95 04:02:52 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 529 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Turn off NumLock. *Stephen prostrates himself before the FreeBSD altar* Thank you! This is the solution to my woes. :) ... Stephen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Stephen Darragh Informed Technology Wembley Downs, Western Australia +61-9-245-2279 srd@it.com.au "My god ain't risen, cos he's sleeping in today." (DAAS) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 19 02:09:09 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id CAA17077 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 May 1995 02:09:09 -0700 Received: from terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (terra.stack.urc.tue.nl [131.155.140.128]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA17071 for ; Fri, 19 May 1995 02:09:02 -0700 Received: from zen.stack.urc.tue.nl (zen.stack.urc.tue.nl [131.155.140.130]) by terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (8.6.11) with ESMTP id LAA08426; Fri, 19 May 1995 11:08:39 +0200 Received: (sven@localhost) by zen.stack.urc.tue.nl (8.6.10/8.6.4) id LAA16029; Fri, 19 May 1995 11:08:43 +0200 From: sven@stack.urc.tue.nl (Sven Berkvens) Message-Id: <199505190908.LAA16029@zen.stack.urc.tue.nl> Subject: Lots of questions To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 11:08:41 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: unix@stack.urc.tue.nl X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 0 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 19 02:10:57 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id CAA17104 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 May 1995 02:10:57 -0700 Received: from terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (terra.stack.urc.tue.nl [131.155.140.128]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA17097 for ; Fri, 19 May 1995 02:10:45 -0700 Received: from zen.stack.urc.tue.nl (zen.stack.urc.tue.nl [131.155.140.130]) by terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (8.6.11) with ESMTP id LAA08453; Fri, 19 May 1995 11:10:24 +0200 Received: (sven@localhost) by zen.stack.urc.tue.nl (8.6.10/8.6.4) id LAA16095; Fri, 19 May 1995 11:10:27 +0200 From: sven@stack.urc.tue.nl (Sven Berkvens) Message-Id: <199505190910.LAA16095@zen.stack.urc.tue.nl> Subject: Lots of questions (retry - sorry!) To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 11:10:26 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: unix@stack.urc.tue.nl X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 4833 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [Sorry about the first empty mail] Hi everyone! I am one of the system administrators of the university's computer association. We are current running FreeBSD 2.0 RELEASE on three computers. One is acting as an NFS server and contains a lot of harddisks. The other two get most of their stuff from that NFS server. The server contains two WD8003EP ethernet cards. One is for the NFS network (which is local to the three computers) and one is for normal network access. The other two computers have a similar setup, except that they contain two NE2000's. I mention the above because it may have something to do with my qeustion: when I type 'arp -a' to view the ARP cache, all it says (on all three machines) is: ? (0.0.0.0) at (incomplete) ? (0.0.0.0) at (incomplete) ? (0.0.0.0) at (incomplete) ? (0.0.0.0) at (incomplete) permanent ? (0.0.0.0) at (incomplete) ? (0.0.0.0) at (incomplete) One machines has more 0.0.0.0 than another, but all outputs are similar. Does this mean that the machines will try an ARP resolve for every packet they send or is my 'arp' just broken? I don't know exactly how much network load ARP resolves cost, but I can imagine that it is not desirable. Also, I cannot query a host for its ARP address: Turtle: /home/sven> arp zen zen (131.155.140.130) -- no entry Turtle: /home/sven> arp nfszen nfszen (131.155.14.130) -- no entry And that, while it's constantly receiving and sending NFS data to nfszen. Anyone know what's going on here? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now I have a question about the pty/tty's the FreeBSD employs. It seems that when somebody logs in, the pty/tty pair in the /dev directory is chown(2)'ed to that person. That's quite normal :) Now, when he/she logs out, the pty/tty is AUTOMATICALLY chown(2)'ed back to root and given the mode rw-rw-rw-. This is not a real problem, but the problem is this: Say somebody is running ELM. For some reason, he thinks the computer hanging (for example, it takes too long) and he presses ALT-X (using PC NCSA Telnet) which closes the connection. The pty/tty pair gets chowned back to root and they are no longer associated with the ELM process. When ELM does a read(2) to check for terminal input, read(2) returns 0 (I guess as an EOF condition). ELM interprets this wrong (so does TIN for example) and does not see this as an error; even worse, these programs interpret it as a keystroke. Now comes the problem. These program think 'Hey, this is NOT a key I know, lets tell the user and wait for another key'. The write(2)s fail but ELM and TIN don't notice. However, they get stuck in a loop and start eating processor time, because they keep on getting "wrong keys". My questions about this: Is read(2) not supposed to return -1 to indicate an error (like write(2) does)? Why does the tty/pty immediate get chown(2)'ed back to root (and more important: who does this??) instead of leaving it behind as it was and then chown(2)-ing it to another user when necessary (like on SVR4)? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Another question: is there a stat-daemon available for FreeBSD? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Will the new version of FreeBSD be able to handle bad sectors on disks and harddisks? And what about bad sectors in the swap partition? And why isn't it (yet) possible to swap out of a file? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ We run XFree86 version 3.1.1 and that works perfectly, except that when you quit the X server, it sometimes nukes the consoles. They either totally disappear (the X server reports VT_ACTIVATE failed), or they just don't display anything (they do work, but you can't see anything except a kind of cursor (ours normally flashes, but this one doesn't) which does not move). Commands that are typed are responded to however. I can't seem to get vidcontrol(1) to do anything about it either. Restarting the X server works (the X screen is displayed properly) but quitting it renders the same result. By the way, this only happens sometimes, not always. In all cases, the getty(1) processes do keep on running. Respawning them manually does not solve the problem. The video card used is an ET 4000 with 1 MB of memory, running in 1024x768x256 and in 1024x768x2 modes. Both modes sometimes render the console useless after quitting the X server, which is done normally by the way: not with CTRL-ALT-BackSpace. Does anybody have the same problem? And does anybody know what I can do to get back my console? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you for your time which you took to read this! With kind regards, Sven Berkvens (System Administrator) From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 19 04:18:25 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA20660 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 May 1995 04:18:25 -0700 Received: from terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (terra.stack.urc.tue.nl [131.155.140.128]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA20652 for ; Fri, 19 May 1995 04:18:21 -0700 Received: from zen.stack.urc.tue.nl (zen.stack.urc.tue.nl [131.155.140.130]) by terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (8.6.11) with ESMTP id NAA10354 for ; Fri, 19 May 1995 13:18:07 +0200 Received: (sven@localhost) by zen.stack.urc.tue.nl (8.6.10/8.6.4) id NAA17498 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 19 May 1995 13:18:10 +0200 From: sven@stack.urc.tue.nl (Sven Berkvens) Message-Id: <199505191118.NAA17498@zen.stack.urc.tue.nl> Subject: Lots of questions To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 13:18:10 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 4797 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi everyone! I am one of the system administrators of the university's computer association. We are current running FreeBSD 2.0 RELEASE on three computers. One is acting as an NFS server and contains a lot of harddisks. The other two get most of their stuff from that NFS server. The server contains two WD8003EP ethernet cards. One is for the NFS network (which is local to the three computers) and one is for normal network access. The other two computers have a similar setup, except that they contain two NE2000's. I mention the above because it may have something to do with my qeustion: when I type 'arp -a' to view the ARP cache, all it says (on all three machines) is: ? (0.0.0.0) at (incomplete) ? (0.0.0.0) at (incomplete) ? (0.0.0.0) at (incomplete) ? (0.0.0.0) at (incomplete) permanent ? (0.0.0.0) at (incomplete) ? (0.0.0.0) at (incomplete) One machines has more 0.0.0.0 than another, but all outputs are similar. Does this mean that the machines will try an ARP resolve for every packet they send or is my 'arp' just broken? I don't know exactly how much network load ARP resolves cost, but I can imagine that it is not desirable. Also, I cannot query a host for its ARP address: Turtle: /home/sven> arp zen zen (131.155.140.130) -- no entry Turtle: /home/sven> arp nfszen nfszen (131.155.14.130) -- no entry And that, while it's constantly receiving and sending NFS data to nfszen. Anyone know what's going on here? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now I have a question about the pty/tty's the FreeBSD employs. It seems that when somebody logs in, the pty/tty pair in the /dev directory is chown(2)'ed to that person. That's quite normal :) Now, when he/she logs out, the pty/tty is AUTOMATICALLY chown(2)'ed back to root and given the mode rw-rw-rw-. This is not a real problem, but the problem is this: Say somebody is running ELM. For some reason, he thinks the computer hanging (for example, it takes too long) and he presses ALT-X (using PC NCSA Telnet) which closes the connection. The pty/tty pair gets chowned back to root and they are no longer associated with the ELM process. When ELM does a read(2) to check for terminal input, read(2) returns 0 (I guess as an EOF condition). ELM interprets this wrong (so does TIN for example) and does not see this as an error; even worse, these programs interpret it as a keystroke. Now comes the problem. These program think 'Hey, this is NOT a key I know, lets tell the user and wait for another key'. The write(2)s fail but ELM and TIN don't notice. However, they get stuck in a loop and start eating processor time, because they keep on getting "wrong keys". My questions about this: Is read(2) not supposed to return -1 to indicate an error (like write(2) does)? Why does the tty/pty immediate get chown(2)'ed back to root (and more important: who does this??) instead of leaving it behind as it was and then chown(2)-ing it to another user when necessary (like on SVR4)? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Another question: is there a stat-daemon available for FreeBSD? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Will the new version of FreeBSD be able to handle bad sectors on disks and harddisks? And what about bad sectors in the swap partition? And why isn't it (yet) possible to swap out of a file? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ We run XFree86 version 3.1.1 and that works perfectly, except that when you quit the X server, it sometimes nukes the consoles. They either totally disappear (the X server reports VT_ACTIVATE failed), or they just don't display anything (they do work, but you can't see anything except a kind of cursor (ours normally flashes, but this one doesn't) which does not move). Commands that are typed are responded to however. I can't seem to get vidcontrol(1) to do anything about it either. Restarting the X server works (the X screen is displayed properly) but quitting it renders the same result. By the way, this only happens sometimes, not always. In all cases, the getty(1) processes do keep on running. Respawning them manually does not solve the problem. The video card used is an ET 4000 with 1 MB of memory, running in 1024x768x256 and in 1024x768x2 modes. Both modes sometimes render the console useless after quitting the X server, which is done normally by the way: not with CTRL-ALT-BackSpace. Does anybody have the same problem? And does anybody know what I can do to get back my console? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you for your time which you took to read this! With kind regards, Sven Berkvens (System Administrator) From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 19 04:46:54 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA20998 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 May 1995 04:46:54 -0700 Received: from grendel.csc.smith.edu (grendel.csc.smith.edu [131.229.222.23]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA20992 for ; Fri, 19 May 1995 04:46:52 -0700 Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by grendel.csc.smith.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5) id HAA14135; Fri, 19 May 1995 07:48:00 -0400 From: jfieber@cs.smith.edu (John Fieber) Message-Id: <199505191148.HAA14135@grendel.csc.smith.edu> Subject: Re: WWW without httpd To: smmcgee@ncbc.edu (Sean McGee) Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 07:48:00 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505180814.IAA23219@localhost> from "Sean McGee" at May 18, 95 08:13:17 am Content-Type: text Content-Length: 559 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sean McGee writes: > My questions are: > What is the catch? Have I missed something? You have missed a number of details, and what you are trying to do will me more work than grabbing either the NCSA or CERN http servers, both of which are free. What you have missed, is that a real http server sends more than just the datafile to the client. It also sends information about what the datafile is. -john === jfieber@cs.smith.edu ================================================ =================================== Come up and be a kite! --K. Bush === From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 19 04:54:26 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id EAA21059 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 May 1995 04:54:26 -0700 Received: from grendel.csc.smith.edu (grendel.csc.smith.edu [131.229.222.23]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id EAA21053 for ; Fri, 19 May 1995 04:54:25 -0700 Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by grendel.csc.smith.edu (8.6.5/8.6.5) id HAA14168 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 19 May 1995 07:55:42 -0400 From: jfieber@cs.smith.edu (John Fieber) Message-Id: <199505191155.HAA14168@grendel.csc.smith.edu> Subject: Upgrade procedure from 2.0R to Current To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 07:55:42 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text Content-Length: 783 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Having finished classes and thus having a bit more time, I'd like to catch up with FreeBSD-current. Via CTM, I now have the current (as of yesterday) sources. I have not done a source code upgrade since the patchkit days so I have a couple questions 1. How much work space is required for a make world. 1a. Is is reasonable to follow along, cleaning up object files as the build proceeds if I don't have quite enough space? 2. Can I just "make world", build a new kernel, install the new /etc and reboot, or is there something that is going to break coming from a system as far back as 2.0R? Thanks, -john === jfieber@cs.smith.edu ================================================ =================================== Come up and be a kite! --K. Bush === From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 19 06:46:57 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA22868 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 May 1995 06:46:57 -0700 Received: from copper.cmp.com (copper.cmp.com [198.80.26.247]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA22862 for ; Fri, 19 May 1995 06:46:56 -0700 Received: from mailgate.cmp.com ([198.80.26.5]) by copper.cmp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.14/16.2) id AA205571078; Fri, 19 May 1995 09:44:39 -0400 Received: by mailgate.cmp.com with Microsoft Mail id <2FBCCB3C@mailgate.cmp.com>; Fri, 19 May 95 09:45:48 PDT From: Plyaskin Sergey To: Bill Fenner Cc: "' freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: gated / routed Date: Fri, 19 May 95 09:44:00 PDT Message-Id: <2FBCCB3C@mailgate.cmp.com> Encoding: 170 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>I set routedflags to NO and gated to YES and >>added the line >>rip yes ; >>to my /etc/gated.conf file. I only have one NIC and do not use PPP or SLIP >>so perhaps I do not need packet forwarding. > >With only one interface, and with only "rip yes" in your gated.conf >file, >running gated is exactly like running routed, so I'm still not sure >why you >need to be running gated. > Well, I does not really see the difference. And I have identical results so far. It's just our sysadmin guys who insist on gated. If I'll be able to make it talk to the Internet, I'll swtch back to routed. > >>However, I'm still unable to ping any outer hosts. > >What does your routing table look like? > My routing table is below. Note that I do not use any static routing like 'route add default ...' Everything built automatically. I do not understand why the MAC addresses being used for the machines connected directly. Is thid normal? Also, what is link#1? > >What machine is your router? Can you use the "ripquery" that came with gated >to query your router, to find out what it is advertising? Perhaps you would >do best with just a static default route. > > Bill My router is 198.80.26.2 that talks to Internet. I believe this is HP 9000/807 as our backbone network is built of them. The results of 'ripquery -r 198.80.26.2' are below. Thanks for your help. ************** RESULTS OF 'netstat -rn' on my machine (198.80.26.75) ********* Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 198.80.26.2 UGc 0 4 ed0 127 127.0.0.1 URc 0 0 lo0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 6 lo0 192.20.118 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.8 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.9 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.10 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.17 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.18 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.19 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.20 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.21 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.22 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.23 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.24 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.25 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.26 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.27 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.28 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.29 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.30 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.31 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.32 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.33 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.34 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.35 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.36 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.37 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.38 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.39 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.40 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.41 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.43 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.44 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.45 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.46 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.47 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.48 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.50 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.51 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.52 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.53 198.80.26.242 UGc 1 3 ed0 192.155.54 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.55 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.56 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.57 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.58 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.59 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.60 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.61 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.62 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 192.155.63 198.80.26.242 UGc 0 0 ed0 198.80.26 link#1 UC 0 0 198.80.26.2 0:0:a2:1:e6:7c UHLW 2 6 ed0 1013 198.80.26.10 8:0:9:81:58:ca UHLW 1 33 ed0 885 198.80.26.75 0:0:c0:19:ae:44 UHLW 0 4 lo0 198.80.26.242 0:0:a2:83:22:39 UHLW 50 5 ed0 564 204.70.44 198.80.26.2 UGc 0 10 ed0 224 link#1 UCS 0 0 224.0.0.9 127.0.0.1 UH 0 1 lo0 ***** RESULTS OF 'ripquery -r 198.80.26.2' from 198.80.26.75 ***** 504 bytes from 198.80.26.2 to 198.80.26.75 version 1: 192.20.118.0 metric 16 192.155.8.0 metric 16 192.155.9.0 metric 16 192.155.10.0 metric 16 192.155.17.0 metric 16 192.155.18.0 metric 16 192.155.19.0 metric 16 192.155.20.0 metric 16 192.155.21.0 metric 16 192.155.22.0 metric 16 192.155.23.0 metric 16 192.155.24.0 metric 16 192.155.25.0 metric 16 192.155.26.0 metric 16 192.155.27.0 metric 16 192.155.28.0 metric 16 192.155.29.0 metric 16 192.155.30.0 metric 16 192.155.31.0 metric 16 192.155.32.0 metric 16 192.155.33.0 metric 16 192.155.34.0 metric 16 192.155.35.0 metric 16 192.155.36.0 metric 16 192.155.37.0 metric 16 504 bytes from 198.80.26.2 to 198.80.26.75 version 1: 192.155.38.0 metric 16 192.155.39.0 metric 16 192.155.40.0 metric 16 192.155.41.0 metric 16 192.155.43.0 metric 16 192.155.44.0 metric 16 192.155.45.0 metric 16 192.155.46.0 metric 16 192.155.47.0 metric 16 192.155.48.0 metric 16 192.155.50.0 metric 16 192.155.51.0 metric 16 192.155.52.0 metric 16 192.155.53.0 metric 16 192.155.54.0 metric 16 192.155.55.0 metric 16 192.155.56.0 metric 16 192.155.57.0 metric 16 192.155.58.0 metric 16 192.155.59.0 metric 16 192.155.60.0 metric 16 192.155.61.0 metric 16 192.155.62.0 metric 16 192.155.63.0 metric 16 198.80.26.0 metric 1 44 bytes from 198.80.26.2 to 198.80.26.75 version 1: 204.70.44.0 metric 1 0.0.0.0 metric 1 ********************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 19 07:28:44 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA23611 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 May 1995 07:28:44 -0700 Received: from mercury.ukc.ac.uk (mercury.ukc.ac.uk [129.12.21.10]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA23598 for ; Fri, 19 May 1995 07:28:19 -0700 Message-Id: <199505191428.HAA23598@freefall.cdrom.com> Received: from crane by mercury with UKC POP3+; Fri, 19 May 1995 15:27:35 +0100 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: How well is process debugging implemented in 2.x? Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 15:27:32 +0100 From: David Clear Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Which out of ptrace and /proc is the process debugging interface of choice? I've looked over the source and by the comments it seems that ptrace doesn't have attach/detach implemented very well and the source for /proc says it's not possible to single step through signal delivery! The second question is, where is process debugging going in the long term, ptrace or /proc? Having looked at ptrace on SunOS 4.1.3 and /proc on Solaris, Solaris /proc does look very nice indeed. Please reply directly to me as I'm not on the list. Dave. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 19 08:01:22 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA24531 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 May 1995 08:01:22 -0700 Received: from devnull (devnull.mpd.tandem.com [131.124.4.29]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA24525 for ; Fri, 19 May 1995 08:01:21 -0700 Received: from olympus by devnull (8.6.8/8.6.6) id KAA19727; Fri, 19 May 1995 10:00:58 -0500 Received: by olympus (4.1/TSS2.1) id AA12061; Fri, 19 May 95 10:01:04 CDT From: faulkner@mpd.tandem.com (Boyd Faulkner) Message-Id: <9505191501.AA12061@olympus> Subject: Re: TCL/TK under XFree 3.1.1 To: stephen@belgarath.it.com.au (Stephen Darragh) Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 10:01:04 -0500 (CDT) Cc: faulkner@devnull.mpd.tandem.com, freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: from "Stephen Darragh" at May 18, 95 12:25:12 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL17] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 844 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Turn off NumLock. > > *Stephen prostrates himself before the FreeBSD altar* > > Thank you! This is the solution to my woes. :) > > ... Stephen > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Stephen Darragh Informed Technology > Wembley Downs, Western Australia +61-9-245-2279 > srd@it.com.au > > "My god ain't risen, cos he's sleeping in today." > (DAAS) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ego te absolvo. Don't forget to kiss the ring. +<:-) -- _______________________________________________________________________ Boyd Faulkner faulkner@isd.tandem.com _______________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 19 08:03:16 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA24561 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 May 1995 08:03:16 -0700 Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA24555 for ; Fri, 19 May 1995 08:03:13 -0700 Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.3.6) id AA24815; Fri, 19 May 1995 11:02:52 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 11:02:52 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9505191502.AA24815@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: sven@stack.urc.tue.nl (Sven Berkvens) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, unix@stack.urc.tue.nl Subject: Lots of questions (retry - sorry!) In-Reply-To: <199505190910.LAA16095@zen.stack.urc.tue.nl> References: <199505190910.LAA16095@zen.stack.urc.tue.nl> Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < I mention the above because it may have something to do with my qeustion: > when I type 'arp -a' to view the ARP cache, all it says (on all three > machines) is: > ? (0.0.0.0) at (incomplete) This is a fairly clear indication that your `arp' binary doesn't match the kernel. Other route-related binaries use a different interface to the kernel and would return an error if they were out of date, but `arp' just reads the routing table and prints out those entries that are related to the Ethernets. > Also, I cannot query a host for its ARP address: > Turtle: /home/sven> arp zen > zen (131.155.140.130) -- no entry All this does is look up the entry in the routing table, and as we've already established, your `arp' binary isn't capable of doing that. > When ELM does a read(2) to check for terminal input, read(2) returns > 0 (I guess as an EOF condition). Actually, it returns -1 (an error) with errno set to EIO because of a bug. > ELM interprets this wrong (so does TIN for example) and does not see > this as an error; even worse, these programs interpret it as a > keystroke. Yes. These programs are broken. This used to be a big problem with `vi'. Terry Lambert will claim that this is a job control problem; I don't believe that. > Why does the tty/pty immediate get chown(2)'ed back to root (and more > important: who does this??) instead of leaving it behind as it was and > then chown(2)-ing it to another user when necessary (like on SVR4)? Security. This greatly reduces the opportunity for someone to ``capture'' a PTY before some unsuspecting (and broken) program tries to open it. As to who does it, that's the responsibility of the exiting telnetd, rlogind, or xterm. > Another question: is there a stat-daemon available for FreeBSD? Meaning what? > Will the new version of FreeBSD be able to handle bad sectors on disks and > harddisks? Yes. > And what about bad sectors in the swap partition? It's part of the `disk'. > And why isn't > it (yet) possible to swap out of a file? Because it's not important enough for someone to have implemented it. You can kluge around this by configuring a `vn' device into your kernel (read vn(4) and vnconfig(8)), and then enabling swapping on it. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 19 08:28:29 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA24886 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 May 1995 08:28:29 -0700 Received: from terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (terra.stack.urc.tue.nl [131.155.140.128]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA24880 for ; Fri, 19 May 1995 08:28:27 -0700 Received: from turtle.stack.urc.tue.nl (turtle.stack.urc.tue.nl [131.155.140.132]) by terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (8.6.11) with ESMTP id RAA15985; Fri, 19 May 1995 17:27:09 +0200 Received: (janjaap@localhost) by turtle.stack.urc.tue.nl (8.6.10/8.6.4) id RAA14018; Fri, 19 May 1995 17:27:13 +0200 From: janjaap@stack.urc.tue.nl (Janjaap van Velthooven) Message-Id: <199505191527.RAA14018@turtle.stack.urc.tue.nl> Subject: Re: Lots of questions (retry - sorry!) To: wollman@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 17:27:12 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: sven@stack.urc.tue.nl, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, unix@stack.urc.tue.nl In-Reply-To: <9505191502.AA24815@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> from "Garrett Wollman" at May 19, 95 11:02:52 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 554 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Another question: is there a stat-daemon available for FreeBSD? > Meaning what? This is a program usually named rpc.statd. It is used (together with rpc.lockd) for filelocking on nfs. We have here a system (Esix 404) which realy likes to talk to a statd on its fileserver (A freebsd machine). Janjaap van Velthooven -- ________________________________________ / __/ /_ / ______/ /_ __/ __/ /___ / / /_ __/___/_/_ /___ / / __/ /___ / / rcbajv@urc.tue.nl /___/_/_________/_____/_/_/_/_______/_/_/ janjaap@stack.urc.tue.nl From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 19 08:36:39 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA24984 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 May 1995 08:36:39 -0700 Received: from copper.cmp.com (copper.cmp.com [198.80.26.247]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA24977 for ; Fri, 19 May 1995 08:36:37 -0700 Received: from mailgate.cmp.com ([198.80.26.5]) by copper.cmp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.14/16.2) id AA286777649; Fri, 19 May 1995 11:34:09 -0400 Received: by mailgate.cmp.com with Microsoft Mail id <2FBCE4E6@mailgate.cmp.com>; Fri, 19 May 95 11:35:18 PDT From: Plyaskin Sergey To: "' freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" , "' majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" Cc: Bill Fenner Subject: mail server Date: Fri, 19 May 95 11:34:00 PDT Message-Id: <2FBCE4E6@mailgate.cmp.com> Encoding: 22 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is a question to mail gurus (but maybe not just to them): My goal is to set up majordomo server on my FreeBSD 2.0-950412 box. It will be a dedicated machine, i.e. no other stuff will be running there except sendmail, at least for now. I'm talking to Internet through a gateway. The filtering on this gateway is currently set up so that it only listens to my machine on the port 25. My FreeBSD machine is also open for FTP and Telnet sessions but only for several internal (local) hosts. QUESTION: Do I need any other ports open on the gateway in order to send the mail in and out? Right now, I can't do it. P.S. my machine IS connected to our DNS server and recognizes the outer mailhosts correctly, it just seems to be unable to connect to them. Thanks for any advice. I'm not currently subscribed to majordomo-users list, so please respond directly. -Serge splyaski@cmp.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 19 08:43:47 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id IAA25067 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 May 1995 08:43:47 -0700 Received: from terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (terra.stack.urc.tue.nl [131.155.140.128]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id IAA25060 for ; Fri, 19 May 1995 08:43:43 -0700 Received: from zen.stack.urc.tue.nl (zen.stack.urc.tue.nl [131.155.140.130]) by terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (8.6.11) with ESMTP id RAA16231; Fri, 19 May 1995 17:43:25 +0200 Received: (sven@localhost) by zen.stack.urc.tue.nl (8.6.10/8.6.4) id RAA22906; Fri, 19 May 1995 17:43:28 +0200 From: sven@stack.urc.tue.nl (Sven Berkvens) Message-Id: <199505191543.RAA22906@zen.stack.urc.tue.nl> Subject: Re: Lots of questions To: wollman@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 17:43:27 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: sven@stack.urc.tue.nl, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, unix@stack.urc.tue.nl In-Reply-To: <9505191502.AA24815@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> from "Garrett Wollman" at May 19, 95 11:02:52 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 3042 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > I mention the above because it may have something to do with my qeustion: > > when I type 'arp -a' to view the ARP cache, all it says (on all three > > machines) is: > > > ? (0.0.0.0) at (incomplete) > > This is a fairly clear indication that your `arp' binary doesn't match > the kernel. Other route-related binaries use a different interface to > the kernel and would return an error if they were out of date, but > `arp' just reads the routing table and prints out those entries that > are related to the Ethernets. > Hmmm... Strange. I recompiled the source which came with the 2.0 RELEASE distribution, but to no avail - the binaries are identical. Oh well :) Can I gather from this that the kernel itself DOES know the ARP cache, ie. it does not do an ARP resolve for ervery packet it sends? > > > When ELM does a read(2) to check for terminal input, read(2) returns > > 0 (I guess as an EOF condition). > > Actually, it returns -1 (an error) with errno set to EIO because of a > bug. > Not in my version... I can give you a ktrace.out which I did of a hanging ELM if you want. read(2) returns 0. > > ELM interprets this wrong (so does TIN for example) and does not see > > this as an error; even worse, these programs interpret it as a > > keystroke. > > Yes. These programs are broken. This used to be a big problem with > `vi'. Terry Lambert will claim that this is a job control problem; I > don't believe that. I have 'fixed' tin by adding a stupid little hack. There is a routine called ReadCh() in curses.c which reads a key amd returns EOF if there is an error. The rest of the program does NOT check for this EOF condition. What I did was fairly simple: return 'q' instead of 0. This makes the program quit automatically when there is an error :) > > > Why does the tty/pty immediate get chown(2)'ed back to root (and more > > important: who does this??) instead of leaving it behind as it was and > > then chown(2)-ing it to another user when necessary (like on SVR4)? > > Security. This greatly reduces the opportunity for someone to > ``capture'' a PTY before some unsuspecting (and broken) program tries > to open it. As to who does it, that's the responsibility of the > exiting telnetd, rlogind, or xterm. > Any program can still connect (the mode is 666). I've tried it: for i in /dev/ttyp[p-s]? do cat "$i" & done This captures all available tty's. When someone logs in, I capture one or two keystrokes (I guess the data goes to a random party that is trying to read(2) that device). After that, the connection is broken (I read something about a generation number in kernel)./ > > Another question: is there a stat-daemon available for FreeBSD? > > Meaning what? > Meaning: we have an SVR4 computer as well who wants to mount some drives too. The shell on that computer tries to lock its .ksh_history, which it can't because there is no statd on the FreeBSD side. Result: a hanging flock(2) on the SVR4 side. > -GAWollman > Sven Berkvens (http://www.stack.urc.tue.nl/~sven/) From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 19 09:28:46 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA25907 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 May 1995 09:28:46 -0700 Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA25901 for ; Fri, 19 May 1995 09:28:44 -0700 Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.3.6) id AA24973; Fri, 19 May 1995 12:28:32 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 12:28:32 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9505191628.AA24973@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: sven@stack.urc.tue.nl (Sven Berkvens) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org, unix@stack.urc.tue.nl Subject: Re: Lots of questions In-Reply-To: <199505191543.RAA22906@zen.stack.urc.tue.nl> References: <9505191502.AA24815@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> <199505191543.RAA22906@zen.stack.urc.tue.nl> Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < Hmmm... Strange. I recompiled the source which came with the 2.0 RELEASE > distribution, but to no avail - the binaries are identical. Make sure that your /sys link and the links under /usr/include correctly point to the sources that were used to compile the kernel, then do a cd /usr/src/sbin/arp; make clean depend && make all; ./obj/arp -a and see if that helps. > Not in my version... I can give you a ktrace.out which I did of a hanging > ELM if you want. read(2) returns 0. Hmmm. I guess the bug was fixed while I wasn't looking. > Any program can still connect (the mode is 666). I've tried it: But what they can't do is change the ownership or mode. Programs which attempt to use ptys should perform perform the following sequence of actions before using them: - open master - chmod - chown - revoke slave - open slave It would be slightly cleaner if we supported an frevoke() call like AIX does, but that would be rather difficult. (frevoke() under AIX maps to vgoneall_except_this_one() in BSD...) -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 19 09:46:18 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA26160 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 May 1995 09:46:18 -0700 Received: from crazy.rutgers.edu (tomryan@crazy.rutgers.edu [128.6.180.11]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA26154 for ; Fri, 19 May 1995 09:46:17 -0700 Received: (from tomryan@localhost) by crazy.rutgers.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA15990; Fri, 19 May 1995 12:45:35 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 12:45:34 -0400 From: Tom Ryan Subject: Re: mail server To: Plyaskin Sergey cc: "' freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" , "' majordomo-users@greatcircle.com'" , Bill Fenner In-Reply-To: <2FBCE4E6@mailgate.cmp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ok, Majordomo is just a series of scripts that interact with sendmail if you are currently able to "use" sendmail, you should have no problem with majordomo, if however you are unable to use sendmail (or any of the other various mail progs (as specified in your majordomo.cf file) you will not be able to get it to work. i.e. majordomo *requires* a mail program, it can not send direct. -tom On Fri, 19 May 1995, Plyaskin Sergey wrote: > > This is a question to mail gurus (but maybe not just to them): > > My goal is to set up majordomo server on my FreeBSD 2.0-950412 box. It will > be a dedicated machine, i.e. no other stuff will be running there except > sendmail, at least for now. > > I'm talking to Internet through a gateway. The filtering on this gateway is > currently set up so that it only listens to my machine on the port 25. My > FreeBSD machine is also open for FTP and Telnet sessions but only for > several internal (local) hosts. > > QUESTION: Do I need any other ports open on the gateway in order to send the > mail in and out? > > Right now, I can't do it. > P.S. my machine IS connected to our DNS server and recognizes the outer > mailhosts correctly, it just seems to be unable to connect to them. Thanks > for any advice. I'm not currently subscribed to majordomo-users list, so > please respond directly. > > -Serge splyaski@cmp.com > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 19 10:37:29 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA28508 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 May 1995 10:37:29 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA28502 for ; Fri, 19 May 1995 10:37:27 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA00282; Fri, 19 May 95 11:30:44 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9505191730.AA00282@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: FreeBSD and TBBS To: justin.kuntz@ftscorp.com Date: Fri, 19 May 95 11:30:43 MDT Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9505182018.0SJ5K00@ftscorp.com> from "justin.kuntz@ftscorp.com" at May 18, 95 08:18:36 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Everything seems to be working great, but we have one problem-- FreeBSD > always seems to leave the Carrier Detect signal on, and thus TBBS always > thinks someone is on the line, so we cannot "grab" it to allow our callers > to get access. > > I am sure there is a way to have FreeBSD only send "login" requests when it > detects a Carrier Detect (or a couple of CRLFs or something). Can you please > tell me how to do this? 1) Use a calling unit instead of a tty (see the sio man page and see /dev/MAKEDEV). 2) Make sure you run getty instead of uugetty or mgetty. 3) Make sure the modem is set correctly. It should be set to reset as if powered off then on on DTR drop. and it should be set to assert DCD only if remote DCD is present. 4) Make sure your cable is a straight cable. > Also, we have a Boca 4 port COM I/O adapter. Can this work on FreeBSD to > allow us to have 4 hardwired serial connections to our BBS? As long as it is one of their dumb boards, yes. See the sio man page and see the LINT kernel configuration, note that you will need to copy the kernel and add only those lines that apply in; the LINT kernel itself probably won't run. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 19 11:54:29 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA00150 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 May 1995 11:54:29 -0700 Received: from terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (terra.stack.urc.tue.nl [131.155.140.128]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id LAA00142 for ; Fri, 19 May 1995 11:54:26 -0700 Received: from zen.stack.urc.tue.nl (zen.stack.urc.tue.nl [131.155.140.130]) by terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (8.6.11) with ESMTP id UAA18462 for ; Fri, 19 May 1995 20:54:09 +0200 Received: (sven@localhost) by zen.stack.urc.tue.nl (8.6.10/8.6.4) id UAA24537 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 19 May 1995 20:54:13 +0200 From: sven@stack.urc.tue.nl (Sven Berkvens) Message-Id: <199505191854.UAA24537@zen.stack.urc.tue.nl> Subject: accept(2) system call To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 20:54:11 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 939 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi everybody... Just two small questions about accept(2) and listen(2). The manual page (or was it the include file) states that the second parameter supplied to listen(2) is the number of connections that the system will buffer if accept(2) is not already waiting for a connection. It also says that this number is silently limited to 5 pending connections. My question: is it possible to make this number higher via some obscure system call, or do I need to change the kernel? If the latter is the case, where in the kernel do I change what? And another question: if I have a process A, which opens a socket, binds to a port and does a listen(2) on the socket, and then I fork(2) into two processes, are both processes allowed to accept(2) anything from that socket? If so, is it random which process returns from accept(2) if they do an accept(2) at the same time? Thank you for your time, Sven Berkvens (sven@stack.urc.tue.nl) From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 19 12:26:48 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA01822 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 May 1995 12:26:48 -0700 Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA01816 for ; Fri, 19 May 1995 12:26:47 -0700 Received: from gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com ([13.252.21.73]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14604(4)>; Fri, 19 May 1995 12:26:07 PDT Received: from gnu.mc.xerox.com (gnu.sdsp.mc.xerox.com) by gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13473; Fri, 19 May 95 15:26:09 EDT Received: by gnu.mc.xerox.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16564; Fri, 19 May 95 15:29:14 EDT Message-Id: <9505191929.AA16564@gnu.mc.xerox.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: installing freebsd Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 12:29:14 PDT From: "Marty Leisner" Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a disk configured like this: Device Boot Begin Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hdc1 1 1 199 100264+ 83 Linux native /dev/hdc2 200 200 800 302904 83 Linux native /dev/hdc3 801 801 1613 409752 83 Linux native /dev/hdc4 1024 1614 2484 438984 a5 BSD/386 leisner@compudyne$ Will this work and how (it doesn't...my slice is above 1024 cylinders, is this a problem ?) Perhaps I need to interchange hdc3 with hdc4? I also like the way linux boots with loadlin (there's a compressed kernel, and loadlin runs the kernel to a boot device, with the kernel uncompressing itself in protected mode... I also have an IDE cd-rom drive -- it seems freebsd doesn't support ide cdroms -- I have another machine with a Sony U31 CDrom drive I can nfs...can I use this (I suppose the alternative is to do a mass copy of the cdrom to hard disk...) marty leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com Member of the League for Programming Freedom (http://www.lpf.org) Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic Arthur C. Clarke, The Lost Worlds of 2001 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 19 12:36:12 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA02713 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 May 1995 12:36:12 -0700 Received: from hda.com (hda.com [199.232.40.182]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA02701 for ; Fri, 19 May 1995 12:36:09 -0700 Received: (dufault@localhost) by hda.com (8.6.9/8.3) id PAA12886; Fri, 19 May 1995 15:36:42 -0400 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199505191936.PAA12886@hda.com> Subject: Stupid DOS programs and NFS write buffering To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 15:36:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 785 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have to use some Intel development tools that run on DOS only. Unfortunately, pcemu dies on them with unimplemented op codes. I've been using a PC and PC-NFS to do this work, and these unfortunate tools do line based writes to their output files over NFS. I say this both because of the chattering of the disk and because the "nfsstat" writes were 63440 before running the program and 68456 when it finished writing a 4455 line text file. (68456 - 63440 = 5016). Is there a way to buffer the writes for these incredibly stupid programs? I'll even consider some sort of DOS cache that works with PCNFS. Peter -- Peter Dufault Real Time Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 dufault@hda.com Fax: 508 433 5267 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 19 13:42:50 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA07136 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 May 1995 13:42:50 -0700 Received: from estienne.cs.berkeley.edu (estienne.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.42.147]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA07130 for ; Fri, 19 May 1995 13:42:47 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by estienne.cs.berkeley.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA04984; Fri, 19 May 1995 13:41:16 -0700 Message-Id: <199505192041.NAA04984@estienne.cs.berkeley.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: estienne.cs.berkeley.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: "Marty Leisner" cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: installing freebsd In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 19 May 1995 12:29:14 PDT." <9505191929.AA16564@gnu.mc.xerox.com> Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 13:41:15 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > >I have a disk configured like this: > > Device Boot Begin Start End Blocks Id System >/dev/hdc1 1 1 199 100264+ 83 Linux native >/dev/hdc2 200 200 800 302904 83 Linux native >/dev/hdc3 801 801 1613 409752 83 Linux native >/dev/hdc4 1024 1614 2484 438984 a5 BSD/386 >leisner@compudyne$ > >Will this work and how (it doesn't...my slice is above 1024 cylinders, >is this a problem ?) Yes, it is a problem because the BIOS cannot access areas above the 1024 cylinder boundary to boot the kernel. >Perhaps I need to interchange hdc3 with hdc4? That should work. >I also like the way linux boots with loadlin (there's a compressed >kernel, and loadlin runs the kernel to a boot device, with the >kernel uncompressing itself in protected mode... FreeBSD has compressed kernel support. The new install floppy makes use of it. >I also have an IDE cd-rom drive -- it seems freebsd doesn't >support ide cdroms -- I have another machine with a Sony U31 CDrom drive >I can nfs...can I use this (I suppose the alternative is to >do a mass copy of the cdrom to hard disk...) Yes, IDE cd-rom support is on the way, but until then, 2.0.5 supports installs over NFS, ftp, tape, Dos partitions, and any supported CDROM (Sony drives included). >marty leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com >Member of the League for Programming Freedom (http://www.lpf.org) >Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic > Arthur C. Clarke, The Lost Worlds of 2001 -- Justin T. Gibbs ============================================== TCS Instructional Group - Programmer/Analyst 1 Cory | Po | Danube | Volga | Parker | Torus ============================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 19 14:07:19 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA07770 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 May 1995 14:07:19 -0700 Received: from easynet.com (easy1.easynet.com [199.2.26.10]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA07764 for ; Fri, 19 May 1995 14:07:17 -0700 Received: by easynet.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0sCZGO-000rdwC; Fri, 19 May 95 14:07 WET DST Message-Id: From: brian@mediacity.com (Brian Litzinger) Subject: Any accounting packages available for FreeBSD? To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 14:07:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 222 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Are their any accounting packages available for FreeBSD? Perhaps something is available via SCO emulation? Any ideas? By accounting I mean: Payroll, A/R, A/P, Inventory, etc. Thanks, Brian Litzinger brian@easynet.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 19 14:59:33 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id OAA08720 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 May 1995 14:59:33 -0700 Received: from ix4.ix.netcom.com (ix4.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.7]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA08714 for ; Fri, 19 May 1995 14:59:31 -0700 Received: from by ix4.ix.netcom.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id OAA00275; Fri, 19 May 1995 14:58:34 -0700 Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 14:58:34 -0700 Message-Id: <199505192158.OAA00275@ix4.ix.netcom.com> From: jnieten@ix.netcom.com (Joe Nieten) Subject: Xfree & FreeBSD To: questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to run XFree on FreeBSD. Everything works except the mouse. Any ideas why the mouse does not work? From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 19 15:14:51 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA09075 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 May 1995 15:14:51 -0700 Received: from specter.engin.umich.edu (rvp@specter.engin.umich.edu [141.212.76.57]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA09069 for ; Fri, 19 May 1995 15:14:49 -0700 Received: from localhost (rvp@localhost) by specter.engin.umich.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with SMTP id SAA07070 for ; Fri, 19 May 1995 18:14:42 -0400 Message-Id: <199505192214.SAA07070@specter.engin.umich.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: specter.engin.umich.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: IBM ThinkPad Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 18:14:38 -0400 From: Rajeev V Parekh Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I tried installing FreeBSD release in an IBM Thinkpad 755Cs. And when I am prompted to switch disks. It refuses to recognize the keyboard correctly. Do you know of this problem and where can I get help? -Rajeev From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 19 17:41:57 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA11536 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 19 May 1995 17:41:57 -0700 Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA11530 for ; Fri, 19 May 1995 17:41:56 -0700 Received: (from julian@localhost) by ref.tfs.com (8.6.8/8.6.6) id RAA06426; Fri, 19 May 1995 17:41:48 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Message-Id: <199505200041.RAA06426@ref.tfs.com> Subject: Re: Xfree & FreeBSD To: jnieten@ix.netcom.com (Joe Nieten) Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 17:41:47 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199505192158.OAA00275@ix4.ix.netcom.com> from "Joe Nieten" at May 19, 95 02:58:34 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 369 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk well from here it looks like it should work ;) I can't see anything wrong.. > > I am trying to run XFree on FreeBSD. Everything works except the mouse. > Any ideas why the mouse does not work? > you could start by telling us a LITTLE more about your machine, configuration, mouse, system revision etc? outputs from dmesg such would be a good start julian > > From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 20 00:43:40 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA17813 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 May 1995 00:43:40 -0700 Received: from wc.cdrom.com (wc.cdrom.com [192.216.223.37]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id AAA17807 for ; Sat, 20 May 1995 00:43:39 -0700 Received: from belgarath.it.com.au (root@belgarath.it.com.au [203.8.116.3]) by wc.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA05320 for ; Sat, 20 May 1995 00:43:42 -0700 Received: by belgarath.it.com.au (Smail3.1.29.1 #5) id m0sCjAl-00020d5; Sat, 20 May 95 15:42 WET Message-Id: Subject: Large IDE drives in ISA machines To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com (FreeBSD Questions) Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 15:42:05 +0800 (WST) From: "Stephen Darragh" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 555 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk G'day... Is it possible to use a large (850meg) IDE drive in an ISA machine under FreeBSD? (Please discard the "IDE is crap" arguments for now. :)) ... Stephen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Stephen Darragh Informed Technology Wembley Downs, Western Australia +61-9-245-2279 srd@it.com.au "My god ain't risen, cos he's sleeping in today." (DAAS) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 20 00:47:10 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id AAA17843 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 May 1995 00:47:10 -0700 Received: from beta.tricity.wsu.edu (beta.tricity.wsu.edu [192.31.216.9]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id AAA17837 for ; Sat, 20 May 1995 00:47:08 -0700 Received: by beta.tricity.wsu.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA22544; Sat, 20 May 1995 00:47:07 -0700 Message-Id: <9505200747.AA22544@beta.tricity.wsu.edu> Subject: setup modem for dialin To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 00:47:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mark Smith" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 338 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, I'm trying to set up my modem to answer and allow dialins automatically. I'm running FreeBSD 2.0. Does anybody have step by step instructions? I have Terry Lambert's state machine description of what goes on, but no directions on how to actually set it up and what settings need to be in what files. Thanks in advance Mark From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 20 02:42:01 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id CAA20507 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 May 1995 02:42:01 -0700 Received: from thud.cdrom.com (thud.cdrom.com [192.216.222.13]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id CAA20501 for ; Sat, 20 May 1995 02:42:00 -0700 Received: (from timb@localhost) by thud.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id CAA22020 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 20 May 1995 02:41:42 -0700 Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 02:41:42 -0700 From: Tim Bach Message-Id: <199505200941.CAA22020@thud.cdrom.com> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Frame relay card and FreeBSD Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there a card that support''s frame relay for FreeBSD or dos?. I remmeber a while back reading some sort of text file for using ka9q and some card for routing. Thing is i dont recall where that was.. If anybody know's or has a cheap router card or whatever for sale or know's where to get one please email me here.. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 20 06:25:18 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA27543 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 May 1995 06:25:18 -0700 Received: from r-node.io.org (caesar@r-node.io.org [198.133.36.5]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA27537 for ; Sat, 20 May 1995 06:25:17 -0700 Received: (from caesar@localhost) by r-node.io.org (8.6.9/8.6.9) id JAA09576; Sat, 20 May 1995 09:11:27 -0400 Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 09:11:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Luukkonen To: Stephen Darragh cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Large IDE drives in ISA machines In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 20 May 1995, Stephen Darragh wrote: > G'day... > > Is it possible to use a large (850meg) IDE drive in an ISA machine under > FreeBSD? I've got the 950112 Snapshot running on a Maxtor 850meg IDE drive now. The BIOS has been told that it is an 814mb drive and seems to work fine (except disklabel reports some incorrent info....) Right now, Maxtor has no drivers to support the full 850mb except under DOS. I tried installing a newer snapshot (950412) but it would hang on reboot after the install -- I have a sneaky suspicion it's because of the drive, but I'm not sure... > (Please discard the "IDE is crap" arguments for now. :)) (Well, they _are_ but they're also dirt cheap....:-) =============================================================================== caesar@io.org \ The end is where we start from. | Mark Luukkonen \ - T.S. Eliot, "Little Gidding" | Oshawa, Ont. CANADA \__________________________________| From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 20 06:46:48 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id GAA28512 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 May 1995 06:46:48 -0700 Received: from dub-img-2.compuserve.com (dub-img-2.compuserve.com [198.4.9.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id GAA28506 for ; Sat, 20 May 1995 06:46:46 -0700 Received: by dub-img-2.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id JAA27653; Sat, 20 May 1995 09:46:15 -0400 Date: 20 May 95 09:45:13 EDT From: "J. Roskar" <71075.3104@compuserve.com> To: Subject: Colorado floppy driven tape problem Message-ID: <950520134513_71075.3104_GHI96-1@CompuServe.COM> Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk To:>INTERNET:questions@freebsd.org Date: 20 May 1995 Recently, I installed FreeBSD 2.0 to my PC from a Walnut Creek CDROM. Hardware : ZEOS Pantera 486 CPU : Intel 486/66Mhz, 16MB Video-card: Diamond VIPER PCI, 2MB. In addition to the 3.5inch floppy drive unit, I have Colorado tape unit which is driven by floppy controller as well (ft unit). Following instructions I reconfigured and relinked the kernel according to my hardware configuration. In the first attempt I set the following configuration for floppy: controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 tape ft0 at fdc0 drive 2 Result: System run OK. ft is not present in the device table. fd0 is present but doesn't run as a 3.5inch device (read errors, probably set as a 1.2MB 5.25inch device). In the second attempt I set (I have only one floppy): controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 tape ft0 at fdc0 drive 1 Result: System run OK. ft is not present in the device table. fd0 run correctly as a 3.5inch device. I would be pleased if you can advise me how to overcome the problem. Regards From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 20 09:35:16 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA02393 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 May 1995 09:35:16 -0700 Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA02387 for ; Sat, 20 May 1995 09:35:15 -0700 Received: from gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com ([13.252.21.73]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14522(2)>; Sat, 20 May 1995 09:34:37 PDT Received: by gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20102; Sat, 20 May 95 12:34:40 EDT Message-Id: <9505201634.AA20102@gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: more on booting freebsd Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 09:34:39 PDT From: "Marty Leisner" Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Well I moved around my partitions and now have (on ide hard disk2): Device Boot Begin Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hdc1 1 1 199 100264+ 83 Linux native /dev/hdc2 200 200 800 302904 83 Linux native /dev/hdc3 801 801 1613 409752 a5 BSD/386 /dev/hdc4 1024 1614 2484 438984 83 Linux native Now whats involved to boot a system dealing only with floppy disks and not dealing with MBR (especially not on my primary disk...) I have the install disk and the infomagic FreeBSD 2.0 distribution... leisner@compaq$ ls -lL total 3233 -r--r--r-- 1 root root 345 Dec 5 03:14 README -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1228800 Dec 5 02:55 boot_12.flp -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1474560 Dec 5 02:56 boot_144.flp -r--r--r-- 1 root root 590848 Dec 5 02:57 cpio.flp drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 2048 Dec 5 07:18 newer/ drwxrwxr-x 2 root root 2048 Dec 5 06:14 older/ leisner@compaq$ less README boot_144.flp Boot image for 1.44MB floppies. boot_12.flp Boot image for 1.2MB floppies. cpio.flp Cpio image for either size of floppies. *.gz Gzip'd versions of the above. What is on cpio.flp? When I enter proceed it says: "take out the floppy disk and reboot from hard disk" I want to reboot with the boot loader on the floppy, the the kernel installed on the hard disk... Where is there documentation on the boot loader? Also, how do I increase the timeout on the boot loader...if I don't enter options quickly it starts booting off the floppy (I'm happy to say the kernel is finding most of my hardware correctly...) With Linux, I have a boot and root floppy, and can start a minimal system with the root in ramdisk, then start mounting hard disks to find out whats going on...this works very well...how can I do something similar in freebsd? I also have two ide drives, the second drive has my BSD slice, the first drive is just dos...can freebsd access partitions that aren't in a "freebsd slice?" marty leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com Member of the League for Programming Freedom (http://www.lpf.org) Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic Arthur C. Clarke, The Lost Worlds of 2001 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 20 09:44:16 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id JAA02622 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 May 1995 09:44:16 -0700 Received: from disperse.demon.co.uk (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA02612 for ; Sat, 20 May 1995 09:44:05 -0700 Received: from post.demon.co.uk by disperse.demon.co.uk id aa29688; 20 May 95 17:42 +0100 Received: from lechien.demon.co.uk by post.demon.co.uk id aa07202; 20 May 95 17:42 GMT-60:00 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lechien (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA05914 for ; Sat, 20 May 1995 17:41:50 GMT Message-Id: <199505201741.RAA05914@lechien> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Ingres Package for 2.x? Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 17:41:12 +0000 From: "Darragh O'Grady" Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know where a package/port containing Ingres for version 2.x of FreeBSD can be found? Or alternatively, would anyone know what would need to be done to the port which comes on the 1.1R CD? The 1.1R port needs to be built with gcc 1.x; I've already tried hacking it to compile with gcc 2.6.3, but (surprise, surprise) it dumps core (specifically, equel dumps core in a yacc routine; don't know why, yet). -- Darragh "It's..." From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 20 10:27:46 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA03387 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 May 1995 10:27:46 -0700 Received: from bsl1.bslnet.com (root@bsl1.bslnet.com [165.247.36.10]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA03381 for ; Sat, 20 May 1995 10:27:45 -0700 Received: (from tsimes@localhost) by bsl1.bslnet.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA29991; Sat, 20 May 1995 10:30:17 -0700 Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 10:30:14 -0700 (MST) From: "Thomas D. Simes" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: RADIUS help Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi All, I am trying without succes to get RADIUS compiled and running under FreeBSD. I am hoping to find someone who has already done this and pick their brains a bit :-) Specifically, I was wondering if anyone remembers the changes necessary to get RADIUS compiled on FreeBSD. We are running FreeBSD 2.0.950412-SNAP and are using the U.S. version of DES for password encryption. I have already made the change suggested in the Livingston docs for the shadow password field being a * and not an x. The RADIUS version is 1.16. When compilng with cflags -O -DNOSHADOW, I get the following: bsl1# make ALL gcc -O -DNOSHADOW -c ./radiusd.c gcc -O -DNOSHADOW -c ./dict.c gcc -O -DNOSHADOW -c ./users.c gcc -O -DNOSHADOW -c ./util.c gcc -O -DNOSHADOW -c ./md5.c gcc -O -DNOSHADOW -c ./attrprint.c gcc -O -DNOSHADOW -c ./acct.c gcc -O -DNOSHADOW -o version.o -c ./version.c gcc -O -DNOSHADOW -o radiusd radiusd.o dict.o users.o util.o md5.o attrprint.o acct.o version.o radiusd.o: Undefined symbol `_crypt' referenced from text segment *** Error code 1 When compiling with cflags -O, I get the following: bsl1# make ALL gcc -O -c ./radiusd.c ./radiusd.c:50: shadow.h: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 The results are the same if I compile with cc, and I do not have a shadow.h file anywhere on my system. Does this sound familiar? Thanks in advance! Tom ====================================================================== Thomas D. Simes "Diligence is the mother of good luck" tsimes@bslnet.com - Ben Franklin From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 20 10:34:59 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id KAA03515 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 May 1995 10:34:59 -0700 Received: from casbah.acns.nwu.edu (kenny@casbah.acns.nwu.edu [129.105.16.52]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA03509 for ; Sat, 20 May 1995 10:34:58 -0700 From: kenny@casbah.acns.nwu.edu Received: by casbah.acns.nwu.edu (1.37.109.16/20.3) id AA015411296; Sat, 20 May 1995 12:34:56 -0500 Message-Id: <199505201734.AA015411296@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> Subject: FreeBSD 2.0 Install problem To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 12:34:56 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 680 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sorry if this isn't the exact correct place to ask, but I have a question that isn't covered in trouble shooting section... upon beginning newfs after allocating partition space, i get the followng message... wd0a: wdstart: timeout waiting to give command writing fsbn 1008 of 1008-1023 (wd0 bn 210672; cn 52 tn 16 sn 0) wd0: status 0 error 1 The machine is a 100MHz Pentium Gateway 2000 with a WD 1GB IDE Drive... any ideas? thanks, ken -- Ken Gleason PRODUCT kenny@casbah.acns.nwu.edu Chicago's Premium Rock Export Interactive Training Resources, Inc. email me for tapes, t-shirts, Chicago, IL schedule and fan club info. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 20 11:54:37 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id LAA05239 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 May 1995 11:54:37 -0700 Received: from zeta (ipdyne2.vir.com [199.202.197.2]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA05233 for ; Sat, 20 May 1995 11:54:35 -0700 Received: by zeta (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sCtf7-00001tC; Sat, 20 May 95 14:54 EDT Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 14:54:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Burns X-Sender: root@zeta To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: MAXIMUM user name length? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk What is the limitation in a user name length? Adduser and vipw allow me to enter a user name of 10 chars but it is not recognized by either the chpass command or the login prompt. When I reduce the length to 8 characters, everthing is ok. Is this a limitation? Can it be changed? Robert Burns (procecorjb@vir.com) mtl., ca. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 20 12:44:00 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA06952 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 May 1995 12:44:00 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA06945 for ; Sat, 20 May 1995 12:43:59 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA06319; Sat, 20 May 95 13:37:13 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9505201937.AA06319@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: MAXIMUM user name length? To: procecorjb@Vir.com (Robert Burns) Date: Sat, 20 May 95 13:37:12 MDT Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Robert Burns" at May 20, 95 02:54:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > What is the limitation in a user name length? 8 characters. > Adduser and vipw allow me to enter a user name of 10 chars > but it is not recognized by either the chpass command or the > login prompt. When I reduce the length to 8 characters, everthing > is ok. Is this a limitation? It is. > Can it be changed? If you are willing to recompile all tools that use getpwent() and related routines after changing sys/param.h. This includes xterm. At the same time, you will be breaking NIS interoperability with older systems, since 8 characters is a historical limit that will still be present on other machines (for instance, Sun machines). When an ISP sets up, typically they will have several machines and an address rotor using the newer bind code to attempt to balance the system load. Also, typically, there will be an NIS database in common between the machines, so that logins will work. If you are soing this in support of users as an ISP instead of on a whim, you may want to reconsider the advisability of making the change. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 20 12:50:40 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id MAA07037 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 May 1995 12:50:40 -0700 Received: from mailhost.primenet.com (root@mailhost.primenet.com [198.68.32.50]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id MAA07031 for ; Sat, 20 May 1995 12:50:39 -0700 Received: from ip086.phx.primenet.com (ip086.phx.primenet.com [198.68.46.86]) by mailhost.primenet.com (8.6.11/wjp-h2.0) with SMTP id MAA18678 for ; Sat, 20 May 1995 12:50:34 -0700 Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 12:50:34 -0700 Message-Id: <199505201950.MAA18678@mailhost.primenet.com> X-Sender: worlock@mailhost.primenet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@FreeBSD.org From: worlock@PrimeNet.Com (worlock) Subject: Panasonic CD roms Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a sb16 and a panasonic cdrom that uses the cdmke41.sys driver and not the sbpcd.sys driver. Is any support planned for my drive? I can send FreeBSD the driver if you folks would like to take a look at it for future support. I really want to run FreeBSD, hopefully I will be able to...... Worlock "Remeber, your on AL GORE's Information Superhighway, Toll roads happily manned by Clintonistas!" Http://WWW.Primenet.com/~Worlock From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 20 13:00:09 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA07190 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 May 1995 13:00:09 -0700 Received: from westhill.cdrom.com (westhill.cdrom.com [192.216.223.57]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA07184 for ; Sat, 20 May 1995 13:00:07 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by westhill.cdrom.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id NAA14309 ; Sat, 20 May 1995 13:00:00 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: westhill.cdrom.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: "Thomas D. Simes" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RADIUS help In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 20 May 1995 10:30:14 PDT." Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 13:00:00 -0700 Message-ID: <14305.801000000@westhill.cdrom.com> From: Gary Palmer Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message , "Thomas D. Simes" writes: >gcc -O -DNOSHADOW -o radiusd radiusd.o dict.o users.o util.o md5.o >attrprint.o acct.o version.o >radiusd.o: Undefined symbol `_crypt' referenced from text segment >*** Error code 1 Add -lcrypt to the LDFLAGS if it has one, or add it by hand to the line in question in the Makefile. FreeBSD doesn't build it's crypt routines into the libc for various reasons, and it can be found in the libcrypt file. This should allow it to compile, although I'm not sure if it will work. You may need to ``tweak'' it concept of password verification if it uses the system password file. Gary From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 20 13:09:19 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA07311 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 May 1995 13:09:19 -0700 Received: from easynet.com (easy1.easynet.com [199.2.26.10]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA07303 for ; Sat, 20 May 1995 13:09:15 -0700 Received: by easynet.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0sCupr-000rdMC; Sat, 20 May 95 13:09 WET DST Message-Id: From: brian@mediacity.com (Brian Litzinger) Subject: linking kernel... *** signal 11 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 13:09:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 492 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm building a kernel with a device driver from a third party company. Building everything without the third party driver produces a usable kernel. Build everything with the third party driver and during the link I get (with ld -t): ... libkern.a(qdivrem.o) swapkernel.o Digesting symbol information: *** Signal 11 It is a rock solid failure, very repeatable. Any one have any ideas how I might proceed to find the problem? I'm running -current 19950519. Thanks, brian@easynet.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 20 13:24:45 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA07656 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 May 1995 13:24:45 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA07642 for ; Sat, 20 May 1995 13:24:41 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA06468; Sat, 20 May 95 14:17:57 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9505202017.AA06468@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: setup modem for dialin To: msmith@beta.tricity.wsu.edu (Mark Smith) Date: Sat, 20 May 95 14:17:57 MDT Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com In-Reply-To: <9505200747.AA22544@beta.tricity.wsu.edu> from "Mark Smith" at May 20, 95 00:47:06 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm trying to set up my modem to answer and allow dialins automatically. > I'm running FreeBSD 2.0. Does anybody have step by step instructions? > I have Terry Lambert's state machine description of what goes on, but no > directions on how to actually set it up and what settings need to be in > what files. Yet more diatribe on modems... unfortunately not everything is really "Hayes compatible" like they claim, and factory default setting are usually not the settings you want. Also unfortunately, the settings you want are pretty zero-tolerance for driver/cable errors. 1) Use a straight cable The exception to this rule is if you know that the system does not correctly recover DCD loss in all states of CTS/RTS (Sun machines without the advanced serial driver option ($1500) that is actualy derived from the old Berknet serial driver will lock up, for instance, requiring a reset). If you know your system has this problem, pins 4+5 should be tied together (RTS/CTS: assumes 25 pin RS232C connector) in the cable hood on each end, with no wire going through. 2) Avoid ground loops. Any cable with two or more wires is a dipole based LC tank circuit. Since the RS232/434 standards use +/- 11 volt differentials about a digital ground (which may, in fact, not be 0 volts at all), this avoid most problems. The one remaining potential problem is if you connect pin 1 (Chassis ground: assumes 25 pin RS232C connector) on both ends, you have a potential to greate what is called a "ground loop", which will introduce current and therefore error in your connection (depending on how close to the comparator zero crossing boundry the signals from the line drivers normally are). To avoid this, pin 1 (all unused wires in the cable, actually) should be connected on the side with the best frame ground -- this is most frequently the computer. Doing this can reduce noise significantly and will avoid the ground loop problem (in effect, you are providing a farady cage for the cable). 3) Set the modem correctly A) DCD follows remote carrier B) On-to-off transition of DTR causes modem to go on hook and reset as if powered off-then-on. C) Modem recognizes commands D) Modem does *not* have in-band flow control turned on between the computer and the modem (in-band flow control is XON/XOF start/stop signalling). E) Modem does *not* have in-band flow control turned on between the modem and the remote mode. F) Command echo is off by default (a dialer can change this if necessary, but it should be temporary until the next reset by power cycle or on-to-off DTR). G) Result codes are on by default ("RING" "CONNECT" "OK", etc. are to be returned). H) Result codes are verbose by default (non-verbose result codes are typically unexpected by most dialer software). I) If it is settable, DCD should be raised *after* the connect message instead of before. The default for most Bell compliant modems is *after* (103/212 standards). J) Autoanswer should be enabled. The number of rings is irrelevent. Potential problems: A) Internal modems prequently do not have a 150 Ohm pull down resistor on the DCD level. This can cause problems in the disconnected state. For this reason, I always recommend external modems, where possible. B) Internal modems with discrete UARTs typically have the same problem with CTS/RTS. C) US Robotics Sportster 14.4 Fax modems are known to lock up when communicating at high data rates with modems that use the Rockwell 14.4/28.8 chipset. A firmware fix is available from US Robitcs if you have a problem with this. Newer US Robotics modems should not have this problem. D) Modems that use MNP, especially older modems manufactured by someone other than Microcomm, can not have MNP enabled and in-band flow control disabled (it will show as disabled but is implied by the use of MNP). This is because the manufacturers wanted to undercut Microcomm's prices, so they reduced the amount of RAM in the modem for buffering. If you have one of these modems, disable MNP or expect to be unable to send binary data without protocol quoting (ie: like Kermit). E) It is imperitive that you get the DTR signals set up correctly in the modem settings. Modems from several manufacturers (Avatek, for example) will not retrain the baud rate unless reset. The first caller will "stick" the baud for subsequent calls until the modem is reset. F) On a related note, if you are going to buy a serial board or terminal server, make sure it supports the modem control lines if you plan to use it for modems. G) A lightening arrestor is cheaper than a computer. H) If you have a Telebit modem, look up S53 in your manual before starting. I) If you use mgetty/vgetty, you will want to disable the autoanswer, since they react to the "RING" by sending an ATA command (Hayes modems). J) Locking your baud rate(between the modem and the computer) can be good. You won't need to go through the getty break switch sequence to get a login. K) Locking your baud rate can be bad. If you do lock your baud, be prepared for a delay in all control signals, like ^S, ^Z, ^Z, ^T, etc.. This is because you will have to wait for the modem buffers to flush, since they will fill in the process of baud rate matching. It can also be bad if you forget to disable the break switch rotor list for the baud rate in /etc/gettytab. It can really be bad if there are flow control problems in the driver. Most people like the locking feature. I personally hate hardware that lies to me. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 20 13:27:17 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA07793 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 May 1995 13:27:17 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA07787 for ; Sat, 20 May 1995 13:27:15 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA06487; Sat, 20 May 95 14:20:28 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9505202020.AA06487@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: linking kernel... *** signal 11 To: brian@mediacity.com (Brian Litzinger) Date: Sat, 20 May 95 14:20:27 MDT Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Brian Litzinger" at May 20, 95 01:09:19 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm building a kernel with a device driver from a third party company. Binary or source? > Build everything with the third party driver and during the link > I get (with ld -t): > > ... > libkern.a(qdivrem.o) > swapkernel.o This is a "look at the source". Probably, it should be using a shift instead. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 20 13:40:06 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA08284 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 May 1995 13:40:06 -0700 Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id NAA08278 for ; Sat, 20 May 1995 13:40:04 -0700 Received: from ipxpress.aws.waii.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP id QQyqow20359; Sat, 20 May 1995 16:40:01 -0400 Received: by ipxpress.aws.waii.com id AA09458 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Sat, 20 May 1995 15:39:55 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 15:39:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Alex Dunbar To: "Thomas D. Simes" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: RADIUS help In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 20 May 1995, Thomas D. Simes wrote: > > When compilng with cflags -O -DNOSHADOW, I get the following: [...] > gcc -O -DNOSHADOW -o radiusd radiusd.o dict.o users.o util.o md5.o > attrprint.o acct.o version.o > radiusd.o: Undefined symbol `_crypt' referenced from text segment > *** Error code 1 try adding the library -lcrypt to the makefile. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 20 13:57:42 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA08681 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 May 1995 13:57:42 -0700 Received: from easynet.com (easy1.easynet.com [199.2.26.10]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA08675 for ; Sat, 20 May 1995 13:57:39 -0700 Received: by easynet.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0sCvaf-000rdMC; Sat, 20 May 95 13:57 WET DST Message-Id: From: brian@mediacity.com (Brian Litzinger) Subject: Re: linking kernel... *** signal 11 To: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 13:57:41 -0700 (PDT) Cc: brian@mediacity.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9505202020.AA06487@cs.weber.edu> from "Terry Lambert" at May 20, 95 02:20:27 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 507 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I'm building a kernel with a device driver from a third party company. > Binary or source? A little of both. Mostly source and a little binary. They, the author of the driver, have it running on a FreeBSD 2.0 (from the CDROM) system. I'm running it under -current. The previous release of their code ran under -current with an mbuf leak. This latest release has the mbuf leak fixed and as other "improvements". Regretably I get the signal 11 during the link. Brian Litzinger brian@easynet.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 20 15:15:18 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA11207 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 May 1995 15:15:18 -0700 Received: from easynet.com (easy1.easynet.com [199.2.26.10]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA11201 for ; Sat, 20 May 1995 15:15:17 -0700 Received: by easynet.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0sCwnq-000rdMC; Sat, 20 May 95 15:15 WET DST Message-Id: From: brian@mediacity.com (Brian Litzinger) Subject: Re: linking kernel... *** signal 11 To: brian@mediacity.com (Brian Litzinger) Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 15:15:22 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Brian Litzinger" at May 20, 95 01:09:19 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 452 Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm building a kernel with a device driver from a third party company. > Building everything without the third party driver produces a usable kernel. > Build everything with the third party driver and during the link > I get (with ld -t): One part of the third party driver is in object format. That module is what is blowing up the linker. I've forwarded the information to the third party driver developer. Brian Litzinger brian@easynet.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 20 15:48:01 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id PAA11759 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 May 1995 15:48:01 -0700 Received: from vespucci.iquest.com (root@vespucci.iquest.com [199.170.120.42]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id PAA11753 for ; Sat, 20 May 1995 15:48:00 -0700 Received: (from dkelly@localhost) by vespucci.iquest.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA06439; Sat, 20 May 1995 17:47:49 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 17:47:49 -0500 From: David Kelly Message-Id: <199505202247.RAA06439@vespucci.iquest.com> To: freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com, stephen@belgarath.it.com.au Subject: Re: Large IDE drives in ISA machines Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Is it possible to use a large (850meg) IDE drive in an ISA machine under > FreeBSD? Its trivial. Just plug it in, partition, install. Keep MS-DOG below 500M. If its not trivial, then I was just darn lucky with my Maxtor 850. Have not had one iota of trouble from the 950412-SNAP. Ok, I lied above. Every couple of days I get a "lnc0: Missed Packet -- no receive buffer". Big Fat Hairy Deal. Probably has something to do with 64M swap and only 8M core. Is there any adantage to buying a "real" EIDE controller? Its funny how on another FreeBSD machine with a $15 IDE controller and a 485M HD, the IDE controller can't figure out when to turn the HD LED on/off right. Linux had no problem. DOS had no problem. FreeBSD & this controller just couldn't get it right. Again, Big Fat Hairy Deal. FreeBSD pushed data thru 3x faster than Linux (w/o EIDE driver) or the AMI HD Setup BIOS routine. David Kelly N4HHE, n4hhe@amsat.org, dkelly@iquest.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 20 16:49:06 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id QAA12460 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 May 1995 16:49:06 -0700 Received: from mercury.unt.edu (mercury.unt.edu [129.120.1.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA12448 for ; Sat, 20 May 1995 16:49:03 -0700 Received: from gab.unt.edu by mercury.unt.edu with SMTP id AA21596 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Sat, 20 May 1995 18:49:00 -0500 Received: from GAB/MAILQUEUE by gab.unt.edu (Mercury 1.13); Sat, 20 May 95 18:48:50 CST6CDT Received: from MAILQUEUE by GAB (Mercury 1.13); Fri, 19 May 95 18:04:32 CST6CDT From: "John Booth" Organization: University of North Texas To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 18:04:28 CST6CDT Subject: bsddip Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <2CBC375FE@gab.unt.edu> Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Well, I compiled it under 3-22 current machine (no warnings). Then tried to execute it. Said wrong machine architecture. Source avail on ftp.cdrom.com/pub/FreeBSD/incoming (or was a few days ago) Any help is appreciated. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- College of Arts & Sciences Computing Services John A. Booth, john@gab.unt.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 20 17:07:56 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id RAA12732 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 May 1995 17:07:56 -0700 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA12725 for ; Sat, 20 May 1995 17:07:55 -0700 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA07788; Sat, 20 May 95 18:01:16 MDT From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9505210001.AA07788@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: linking kernel... *** signal 11 To: brian@mediacity.com (Brian Litzinger) Date: Sat, 20 May 95 18:01:16 MDT Cc: brian@mediacity.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Brian Litzinger" at May 20, 95 03:15:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I'm building a kernel with a device driver from a third party company. > > > Building everything without the third party driver produces a usable kernel. > > > Build everything with the third party driver and during the link > > I get (with ld -t): > > One part of the third party driver is in object format. That module > is what is blowing up the linker. I've forwarded the information > to the third party driver developer. I'm betting object module changes. Try enforcing short name support by putting it in an an archive and ranlibbing it with a short symbol name. This may mean you need to take external references and change them for the shorter name. Other than that, I think you could only win by contacting the author. Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 20 18:32:10 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id SAA16400 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 May 1995 18:32:10 -0700 Received: from reznor.larc.nasa.gov (reznor.larc.nasa.gov [128.155.4.83]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id SAA16394 for ; Sat, 20 May 1995 18:32:09 -0700 Received: by reznor.larc.nasa.gov (8.6.10/server2.4) id BAA23460; Sun, 21 May 1995 01:32:07 GMT To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Path: news!chrisr From: chrisr@alpha1.larc.nasa.gov (Christian Rasmussen) Newsgroups: mail.freebsd.questions Subject: bootmanager doesnt work Date: 21 May 1995 01:32:05 GMT Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA USA Lines: 16 Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: alpha1.larc.nasa.gov Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk After booting and fdisk/disklabeling/installing from the first floppy it asks to be rebooted, but when rebooting I just a get prompt saying F1 = FreeBSD I have assigned my entire drive to FreeBSD, pressing F1 gives me the same prompt again, pressing nothing just repeats the prompts every so often. To me it looks like it is trying to boot but fails and then just goes back to the F1.. prompt question. I have tried this both with a IDE drive and a SCSI drive. Same result. Also the only way to get this boot manager off is to use DOS's 'fdisk /mbr' If anyone know what to do please let me know.. Christian From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 20 19:05:06 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA17973 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 May 1995 19:05:06 -0700 Received: from matrix.xiii.com (xiii.sccsi.com [198.65.130.42]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA17946 for ; Sat, 20 May 1995 19:04:55 -0700 Received: (from quint@localhost) by matrix.xiii.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id VAA02058 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 20 May 1995 21:06:00 GMT Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 21:06:00 GMT From: Dark Realms Message-Id: <199505202106.VAA02058@matrix.xiii.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: A background process question Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi.. I'm trying to run a MUD on FreeBSD 2.0 ... I have a problem with running a background process in a shell script or by using system() in a little autoprogram, so the MUD can reboot after a crash or reboot.. the two ways are : bin/drserver 6666 >& syslog or : system("bin/drserver 6666 >& syslog"); Both gives the error : Syntax error: Bad fd number. Then I tryed using freopen() inside the MUD to direct stderr and stdout to the syslog file. Problem here that all output to the file was first written when I closed the two streams again [with fclose()] .. And since 1) we like to look in the syslog file sometimes and 2) the MUD can run so long that I would expect it would take up to much memory/stack or whatever it use before written to file... So my question is if its possible somehow to make a >& in a shell script or through system() ?? Thanks for listen.. Erik Niese-Petersen. Email: quint@matrix.xiii.com Dark Realms IMP. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 20 22:23:36 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA24582 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 May 1995 22:23:36 -0700 Received: from leo.ibms.sinica.edu.tw ([140.109.40.249]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA24572 for ; Sat, 20 May 1995 22:23:32 -0700 Received: (from taob@localhost) by leo.ibms.sinica.edu.tw (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA16907; Sun, 21 May 1995 13:23:34 +0800 Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 13:23:33 +0800 (CST) From: Brian Tao To: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS-L Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How many IP addresses can I assign to a single network interface under 2.0-950412? I wrote a script to add 57 unused IP addresses from our class C to the ed1 interface on my FreeBSD box, and it responded to all of them. What's the limit? 255? Unlimited? -- Brian ("Though this be madness, yet there is method in't") Tao taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw <-- work ........ play --> taob@io.org From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 20 22:26:59 1995 Return-Path: questions-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id WAA24640 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 20 May 1995 22:26:59 -0700 Received: from leo.ibms.sinica.edu.tw ([140.109.40.249]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id WAA24614 for ; Sat, 20 May 1995 22:25:48 -0700 Received: (from taob@localhost) by leo.ibms.sinica.edu.tw (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA16920; Sun, 21 May 1995 13:25:21 +0800 Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 13:25:21 +0800 (CST) From: Brian Tao To: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS-L Subject: Re: iScreen seg faults In-Reply-To: <199505182155.RAA24876@petrified.cic.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: questions-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 18 May 1995, Alex Tang wrote: > > It's ugly, but it works. Does anyone REALLY know what's wrong?? I haven't been able to figure this out either... no version of screen has ever worked for me (I started using FreeBSD in January), and nobody has a clue why. Or if they do, they haven't spoken up. Other people report that they don't experience any problems running screen. Go figure. -- Brian ("Though this be madness, yet there is method in't") Tao taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw <-- work ........ play --> taob@io.org