From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Aug 5 15:51:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA29958 for chat-outgoing; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 15:51:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dympna (dympna.lgc.com [134.132.73.254]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA29943 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 15:51:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dympna (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id RAA06045 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 17:50:29 -0500 Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 17:50:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Rob Snow X-Sender: rsnow@dympna To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: make world times for 2.2-801-SNAP? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Wondering what make world times should look like for this snap. Particularly P6 times. I got: 6842 real, 3498 user, 795 sys -Rob From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Aug 5 21:54:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA22005 for chat-outgoing; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 21:54:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA21999 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 1996 21:54:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by agora.rdrop.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #17) id m0une8u-0008w2C; Mon, 5 Aug 96 21:53 PDT Message-Id: From: garyh@agora.rdrop.com (Gary Hanson) Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Mersenne Primes To: joelh@gnu.ai.mit.edu Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 21:53:20 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199608031941.PAA17213@kropotkin.gnu.ai.mit.edu> from "Joel Ray Holveck" at Aug 3, 96 03:41:38 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > There was some data in the first announcement that I saw about the > > project (or perhaps on the web site) that *in this application* 4 > > Pentium 133(?)s = one Cray. > > Is this factoring in code optimized for a Cray? On typical mundane > code, the Cray is nothing spectacular; just for code that has been > vectorized. Considering that the heart of the algorithm involves ffts, I'd have to assume that it's vectorized. Quite accidently, I came across the original source of my (slightly mangled) paraphrase above. For the dejanews fans or the extremely anal, it was in article <4o36jd$7br@nntp1.best.com> by Luke Welsh: In 1992, a Cray-2 took 19 hours to find that 2^756839-1 was prime. Today, a Pentium 166 takes only 21 hours...A Cray C90 took 7 hours to find 2^859433-1 in 1994, a Pentium takes just 24 hours. That means that 3 Pentiums almost equal one supercomputer, 4 will beat it. --Gary Hanson From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Aug 7 03:34:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA02926 for chat-outgoing; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 03:34:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA02898 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 03:33:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de (wosch@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.12]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA13860 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 12:21:34 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider Received: (from wosch@localhost) by caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.7.5/8.7.2) id MAA27759; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 12:21:26 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 12:21:26 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199608071021.MAA27759@caramba.cs.tu-berlin.de> To: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Microsnot MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk http://www.microsnot.com/england.html Microsnot Acquires England Microsnot is pleased to announce the acquisition of England(tm), a leading country. England will bring many competitive advantages to Microsnot including the world's leading language, some prime real estate, and a strong military. Microsnot has announced plans to continue offering England's products in America and abroad, with some minor changes to the license terms. These changes include: 1. English(tm) will no longer be made available on a Public Domain basis. All users of English(tm) must register with Microsnot. A trial version of English(tm) will be made available with a limited vocabulary. 2. Crumpets will be promoted as a new industry standard for lunch. All Microsnot products will fully support Crumpets At Work (CAW). 3. Other changes will be announced in the near future. _________________________________________________________________ Back to: Microsnot Home Page © 1996 Microsnot Corporation From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Aug 7 08:29:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA06774 for chat-outgoing; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 08:29:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from incant.dancooks.com (incant.dancooks.com [204.180.122.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA06769 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 08:29:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from thanatos@localhost) by incant.dancooks.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA20426; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 10:13:21 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 10:13:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Hudgins To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: 2.1.5 broken kernel? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I can't seem to get the GENERIC kernel to compile under 2.1.5. I get many of these type of compiler errors before it dies.. if_le.o: Undefined symbol '_ether_input' referrenced from text segment.. Anyone know what the source is leaving out? Jason Hudgins From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Aug 7 19:59:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA29015 for chat-outgoing; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 19:59:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA29007 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 19:59:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA04814; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 20:58:42 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 20:58:42 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199608080258.UAA04814@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: locking up In-Reply-To: <14324.839471898@time.cdrom.com> References: <199608071729.MAA00250@right.PCS> <14324.839471898@time.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [ Moved to chat ] Jordan K. Hubbard writes: > I never had this problem until I started using xmodmap with Xaccel to > swap the caps lock and control keys on my new Microsoft natural > keyboard (the Northgate I had before let me do this directly on the > keyboard with a switch). Speaking of which, what do you think of it (the M$ keyboard)? I bought one a couple weeks ago after seeing that you broke down, and I think I'm starting to like it. At least, I don't hate it quite so much as I used to. :) Nate From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Aug 7 20:45:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA02509 for chat-outgoing; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 20:45:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA02494 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 20:45:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA15106; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 20:45:08 -0700 (PDT) To: Nate Williams cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: locking up In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 07 Aug 1996 20:58:42 MDT." <199608080258.UAA04814@rocky.mt.sri.com> Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 20:45:08 -0700 Message-ID: <15104.839475908@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Your feelings essentially echo my own. > [ Moved to chat ] > > Jordan K. Hubbard writes: > > I never had this problem until I started using xmodmap with Xaccel to > > swap the caps lock and control keys on my new Microsoft natural > > keyboard (the Northgate I had before let me do this directly on the > > keyboard with a switch). > > Speaking of which, what do you think of it (the M$ keyboard)? I bought > one a couple weeks ago after seeing that you broke down, and I think I'm > starting to like it. At least, I don't hate it quite so much as I used > to. :) > > > > Nate From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Aug 7 22:27:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.FreeBSD.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA08567 for chat-outgoing; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 22:27:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com ([204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA08529 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 22:24:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA08421; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 22:20:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199608080520.WAA08421@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Nate Williams , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: locking up In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 07 Aug 1996 20:45:08 PDT." <15104.839475908@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 22:20:35 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-chat@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Speaking of which, what do you think of it (the M$ keyboard)? I bought Well, I have been using a M$ keyboard for a few months and I hate switching to a regular keyboard. Amancio From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Aug 7 23:02:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA12931 for chat-outgoing; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 23:02:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com ([204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA08529 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 22:24:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA08421; Wed, 7 Aug 1996 22:20:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199608080520.WAA08421@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Nate Williams , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: locking up In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 07 Aug 1996 20:45:08 PDT." <15104.839475908@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 22:20:35 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Speaking of which, what do you think of it (the M$ keyboard)? I bought Well, I have been using a M$ keyboard for a few months and I hate switching to a regular keyboard. Amancio From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Aug 8 00:58:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA19590 for chat-outgoing; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 00:58:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA19554 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 00:58:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id JAA10659; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 09:56:00 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id JAA22326; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 09:55:59 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id HAA15841; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 07:42:21 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199608080542.HAA15841@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: 2.1.5 broken kernel? To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 07:42:21 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: thanatos@incant.dancooks.com (Jason Hudgins) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: from Jason Hudgins at "Aug 7, 96 10:13:20 am" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Jason Hudgins wrote: > if_le.o: Undefined symbol '_ether_input' referrenced from text segment.. > > Anyone know what the source is leaving out? pseudo-device ether -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Aug 8 11:36:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA04436 for chat-outgoing; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 11:36:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from boner.mrami.com (mramirez.sy.yale.edu [130.132.57.207]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA04431 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 11:36:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mrami@localhost) by boner.mrami.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id OAA09564; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 14:38:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 14:38:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Marc Ramirez To: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Jump to arbitrary label, intra-function Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have some 6507 machine code that I'm trying to run on my PC because I don't have a 6507 anymore. :) Software emulation just isn't cutting it, and I have been toying with the idea of writing a re-assembler. The problem comes when I try to write JSR/RTS in C. JSR is easy enough; push the 6507 PC and do a goto; RTS is trickier... how do I translate a 6507 PC back into a C label? The first thought that popped into my mind was to construct a jump table, but I can't seem to take the address of a label. Hmm... I'm pretty sure I could play around with assembly to do it, but I also eventually want to run this on a DECStation, too. Anyone know of an ANSI way to do this? Surely someone has come upon this problem before... Marc. -- Every improvement in communication makes the bore more terrible. -- Frank Moore Colby From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Aug 8 12:01:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA05333 for chat-outgoing; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 12:01:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from major.cei.net (root@major.cei.net [204.117.117.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA05328 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 12:01:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.dancooks.com (smtp.dancooks.com [204.180.122.4]) by major.cei.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA11080 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 13:54:34 -0500 Message-Id: <199608081854.NAA11080@major.cei.net> Received: from T2/SpoolDir by smtp.dancooks.com (Mercury 1.21); 8 Aug 96 13:43:11 -600 Received: from SpoolDir by T2 (Mercury 1.21); 8 Aug 96 13:43:03 -600 From: "Jason Hudgins" To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 13:42:56 CST Subject: 2.1.5 broken? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42a) Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sorry for the repeat post but my mail server went down and I haven't been able to poll for a few days.. My original question was withr regards to the new 2.1.5 release..I can't seem to get the kernel to compile..not even an unmodified GENERIC kernel...I never had this problem with 2.1.0..so I am just curious if its some flaw in my freshly installed system or if its just a broken release that I grabbed off of Walnut Creek. thanks... Jason Hudgins From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Aug 8 15:10:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA19126 for chat-outgoing; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 15:10:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tomcat1.tbe.com (tomcat1.tbe.com [140.165.22.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA19114 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 15:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [140.165.210.81] by tomcat1.tbe.com via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id RAA01361; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 17:10:11 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 17:10:03 -0500 To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org From: David Kelly Subject: Are we still having an uptime contest? Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Its a lowly 486DX33 w/ 8M that's not asked to do too much. The motherboard finally acted up bad enough to force me to realize that it was broken for bus master DMA as an Adaptec 1542CF and UltraStor 14F screwed up the same way. So about 100 days ago out came the SCSI and this is what I got (with the help of a UPS): PeeCee: {1001} uname -a FreeBSD PeeCee.tbe.com 2.1-STABLE FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE #0: Fri Apr 19 09:44:43 CDT 1996 dkelly@PeeCee.tbe.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/PEECEE i386 PeeCee: {1002} uptime 4:59PM up 100 days, 7:18, 6 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 PeeCee: {1003} Tomcat1.tbe.com/Irix and PeeCee/FreeBSD were having an uptime contest. Today PeeCee won. Don't think I'll bother upgrading its FreeBSD until I have to shoot it to put it out of my misery. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@tomcat1.tbe.com (wk), dkelly@hiwaay.net (hm) ====================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Aug 8 18:21:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA29250 for chat-outgoing; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 18:21:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA29242 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 18:20:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id DAA16683; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 03:20:46 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id DAA13077; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 03:20:46 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id WAA02133; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 22:23:57 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199608082023.WAA02133@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: 2.1.5 broken? To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 22:23:57 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: hudginsj@smtp.dancooks.com (Jason Hudgins) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199608081854.NAA11080@major.cei.net> from Jason Hudgins at "Aug 8, 96 01:42:56 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Jason Hudgins wrote: > Sorry for the repeat post but my mail server went down and I > haven't been able to poll for a few days.. You are the guy with the missing pseudo-device ether statement in his config file? -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Aug 8 18:21:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA29319 for chat-outgoing; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 18:21:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA29283 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 18:21:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id DAA16714; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 03:21:11 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id DAA13085; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 03:21:10 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id WAA02187; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 22:29:21 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199608082029.WAA02187@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Jump to arbitrary label, intra-function To: chat@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 22:29:21 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: mrami@mrami.com (Marc Ramirez) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: from Marc Ramirez at "Aug 8, 96 02:38:52 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Marc Ramirez wrote: > The > problem comes when I try to write JSR/RTS in C. JSR is easy enough; push > the 6507 PC and do a goto; RTS is trickier... how do I translate a 6507 > PC back into a C label? Don't use labels. Either, use C functions directly, or implement a software stack. (If you catch the SIGSEGV, you can even extend the stack dynamically.) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Aug 8 19:33:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA02244 for chat-outgoing; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 19:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA02232 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 19:33:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mole.mole.org (marmot.mole.org [204.216.57.191]) by who.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with SMTP id TAA02496 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 19:22:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mole.mole.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA24397; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 02:22:33 GMT Received: from meerkat.mole.org(206.197.192.110) by mole.mole.org via smap (V1.3) id sma024394; Fri Aug 9 02:22:02 1996 Received: (from mrm@localhost) by meerkat.mole.org (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA05453; Thu, 8 Aug 1996 19:22:02 -0700 Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 19:22:02 -0700 From: "M.R.Murphy" Message-Id: <199608090222.TAA05453@meerkat.mole.org> To: dkelly@tomcat1.tbe.com, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Are we still having an uptime contest? Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Tomcat1.tbe.com/Irix and PeeCee/FreeBSD were having an uptime contest. > Today PeeCee won. Don't think I'll bother upgrading its FreeBSD until I > have to shoot it to put it out of my misery. A 16MB 486DX2/66 with a 120MB IDE: zinger # cat /etc/motd ; uptime ; date 386BSD 0.1.0 (POPW) 10/22/93 08:43 3:43pm up 357 days, 3:23, 1 user, load average: 0.18, 0.06, 0.02 Sat Aug 26 15:43:21 PDT 1995 zinger # It stayed up another 100 days and then was hit by a loss of city power :-) -- Mike Murphy mrm@Mole.ORG +1 619 598 5874 Better is the enemy of Good From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Aug 9 05:56:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA06599 for chat-outgoing; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 05:56:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ulc199.residence.gatech.edu (ken@ulc199.residence.gatech.edu [199.77.162.99]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA06592 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 05:56:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ken@localhost) by ulc199.residence.gatech.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA15685 Fri, 9 Aug 1996 08:55:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199608091255.IAA15685@ulc199.residence.gatech.edu> Subject: Re: Are we still having an uptime contest? To: dkelly@tomcat1.tbe.com (David Kelly) Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 08:55:52 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from David Kelly at "Aug 8, 96 05:10:03 pm" From: Kenneth Merry X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL15 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-chat@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk David Kelly wrote... > Its a lowly 486DX33 w/ 8M that's not asked to do too much. The motherboard > finally acted up bad enough to force me to realize that it was broken for > bus master DMA as an Adaptec 1542CF and UltraStor 14F screwed up the same > way. So about 100 days ago out came the SCSI and this is what I got (with > the help of a UPS): > > PeeCee: {1001} uname -a > FreeBSD PeeCee.tbe.com 2.1-STABLE FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE #0: Fri Apr 19 > 09:44:43 CDT > 1996 dkelly@PeeCee.tbe.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/PEECEE i386 > PeeCee: {1002} uptime > 4:59PM up 100 days, 7:18, 6 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 > PeeCee: {1003} > > Tomcat1.tbe.com/Irix and PeeCee/FreeBSD were having an uptime contest. > Today PeeCee won. Don't think I'll bother upgrading its FreeBSD until I > have to shoot it to put it out of my misery. I was going to wait until it hit 130, but what the heck: {ulc199:/disk2/home/ken:1:0} uname -a FreeBSD ulc199.residence.gatech.edu 2.1.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Mar 16 00:56:47 EST 1996 ken@ulc199.residence.gatech.edu:/disk2/src/sys/compile/pythes i386 {ulc199:/disk2/home/ken:2:0} uptime 8:45AM up 126 days, 12:24, 2 users, load averages: 0.05, 0.05, 0.04 Hardware info: 486/66 20MB RAM Buslogic 445 with: Micropolis 1936 (3 gig) Fujitsu 1 gig NE2000 clone APC UPS (I think it's a 400-and-something) It gets a decent amount of traffic: Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll ed0 1500 00.40.05.11.4b.60 43334276 662 31919680 0 16228 ed0 1500 199.77.162 ulc199 43334276 662 31919680 0 16228 There are about 100 accounts on the machine. Duties include shell server/gateway, DNS service, HTTP, and FTP. (also a number of mailing lists) It survived a 1-hour power outage this past Spring that took out most of the campus, and it survived the entire duration of the Olympics inside the Village Secure Zone at Georgia Tech. Not bad, 'eh? :) Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@ulc199.residence.gatech.edu Disclaimer: I don't speak for GTRI, GT, or Elvis. From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Aug 9 07:07:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA14175 for chat-outgoing; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 07:07:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.crl.com (mail.crl.com [165.113.1.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA14151 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 07:07:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tomcat1.tbe.com by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA22465 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 9 Aug 1996 07:06:33 -0700 Received: from [140.165.210.81] by tomcat1.tbe.com via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id JAA01932; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 09:04:55 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199608091255.IAA15685@ulc199.residence.gatech.edu> References: from David Kelly at "Aug 8, 96 05:10:03 pm" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 08:43:56 -0500 To: Kenneth Merry From: David Kelly Subject: Re: Are we still having an uptime contest? Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-chat@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 7:55 AM -0500 8/9/96, Kenneth Merry wrote: > It gets a decent amount of traffic: > >Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll >ed0 1500 00.40.05.11.4b.60 43334276 662 31919680 0 16228 >ed0 1500 199.77.162 ulc199 43334276 662 31919680 0 16228 I'd always thought I was *probably* on a sloppy net: ed0 1500 00.00.b4.23.d1.21 6777747 346 768083 0 15908 ed0 1500 140.165.210 PeeCee 6777747 346 768083 0 15908 My Ierrs and Coll numbers are higher than Kenneth's average. Maybe not as it looks like Kenneth's machine is the source of most of his net's traffic. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@tomcat1.tbe.com (wk), dkelly@hiwaay.net (hm) ====================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Aug 9 07:14:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA14719 for chat-outgoing; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 07:14:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ulc199.residence.gatech.edu (ken@ulc199.residence.gatech.edu [199.77.162.99]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA14713 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 07:14:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ken@localhost) by ulc199.residence.gatech.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA16623 Fri, 9 Aug 1996 10:14:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199608091414.KAA16623@ulc199.residence.gatech.edu> Subject: Re: Are we still having an uptime contest? To: dkelly@tomcat1.tbe.com (David Kelly) Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 10:14:06 -0400 (EDT) Cc: chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from David Kelly at "Aug 9, 96 08:43:56 am" From: Kenneth Merry X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL15 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk David Kelly wrote... > At 7:55 AM -0500 8/9/96, Kenneth Merry wrote: > > It gets a decent amount of traffic: > > > >Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll > >ed0 1500 00.40.05.11.4b.60 43334276 662 31919680 0 16228 > >ed0 1500 199.77.162 ulc199 43334276 662 31919680 0 16228 > > I'd always thought I was *probably* on a sloppy net: > ed0 1500 00.00.b4.23.d1.21 6777747 346 768083 0 15908 > ed0 1500 140.165.210 PeeCee 6777747 346 768083 0 15908 > > My Ierrs and Coll numbers are higher than Kenneth's average. Maybe not as > it looks like Kenneth's machine is the source of most of his net's traffic. Yes, it is. :) There haven't been any other computers on the network since early June, due to the Olympics. (all the students had to move out of the dorms for the Olympics, they won't move back into that particular dorm until October.) For a long time, it was the highest traffic machine on the entire GT residence hall net. (even with everyone else there and 'competing'.) Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@ulc199.residence.gatech.edu Disclaimer: I don't speak for GTRI, GT, or Elvis. From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Aug 9 07:32:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA16074 for chat-outgoing; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 07:32:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from luke.pmr.com (luke.pmr.com [206.224.65.132]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA16063 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 07:32:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bob@localhost) by luke.pmr.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA19933; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 09:32:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Bob Willcox Message-Id: <199608091432.JAA19933@luke.pmr.com> Subject: Re: Are we still having an uptime contest? To: ken@gt.ed.net (Kenneth Merry) Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 09:32:18 -0500 (CDT) Cc: dkelly@tomcat1.tbe.com, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199608091255.IAA15685@ulc199.residence.gatech.edu> from Kenneth Merry at "Aug 9, 96 08:55:52 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Kenneth Merry wrote: > > David Kelly wrote... > > Its a lowly 486DX33 w/ 8M that's not asked to do too much. The motherboard > > finally acted up bad enough to force me to realize that it was broken for > > bus master DMA as an Adaptec 1542CF and UltraStor 14F screwed up the same > > way. So about 100 days ago out came the SCSI and this is what I got (with > > the help of a UPS): > > > > PeeCee: {1001} uname -a > > FreeBSD PeeCee.tbe.com 2.1-STABLE FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE #0: Fri Apr 19 > > 09:44:43 CDT > > 1996 dkelly@PeeCee.tbe.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/PEECEE i386 > > PeeCee: {1002} uptime > > 4:59PM up 100 days, 7:18, 6 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 > > PeeCee: {1003} > > > > Tomcat1.tbe.com/Irix and PeeCee/FreeBSD were having an uptime contest. > > Today PeeCee won. Don't think I'll bother upgrading its FreeBSD until I > > have to shoot it to put it out of my misery. > > I was going to wait until it hit 130, but what the heck: > > {ulc199:/disk2/home/ken:1:0} uname -a > FreeBSD ulc199.residence.gatech.edu 2.1.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE #0: Sat Mar 16 00:56:47 EST 1996 ken@ulc199.residence.gatech.edu:/disk2/src/sys/compile/pythes i386 > > {ulc199:/disk2/home/ken:2:0} uptime > 8:45AM up 126 days, 12:24, 2 users, load averages: 0.05, 0.05, 0.04 > > > Hardware info: > > 486/66 > 20MB RAM > Buslogic 445 with: > Micropolis 1936 (3 gig) > Fujitsu 1 gig > NE2000 clone > APC UPS (I think it's a 400-and-something) > > It gets a decent amount of traffic: > > Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll > ed0 1500 00.40.05.11.4b.60 43334276 662 31919680 0 16228 > ed0 1500 199.77.162 ulc199 43334276 662 31919680 0 16228 > > There are about 100 accounts on the machine. Duties include shell > server/gateway, DNS service, HTTP, and FTP. (also a number of mailing lists) > > It survived a 1-hour power outage this past Spring that took out > most of the campus, and it survived the entire duration of the Olympics > inside the Village Secure Zone at Georgia Tech. > > Not bad, 'eh? :) > Good, but not good enough :-) Here's the vitals on our nameserver/gateway here which interfaces us to the Internet through an Ascend Pipline50: FreeBSD rancor.pmr.com 2.1-STABLE FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE #0: Wed Dec 27 09:21:05 CST 1995 root@rancor.pmr.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/RANCOR i386 9:20AM up 153 days, 4:34, 3 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll ed0 1500 00.00.c0.8c.ef.43 79033542 1582 119344451 768 482580 ed0 1500 pmr.com ns 79033542 1582 119344451 768 482580 ed1 1500 00.00.c0.94.11.55 116957722 0 72106891 788 41822 ed1 1500 199.33.242. damon.com 116957722 0 72106891 788 41822 This an 8mb 486/66. Admittedly with fairly low system loads. -- Bob Willcox politics, n: bob@luke.pmr.com A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of Austin, TX principles. The conduct of public affairs for private advantage. -- Ambrose Bierce From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Aug 10 10:34:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-chat Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA10073 for chat-outgoing; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 10:34:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA10064 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 10:34:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA02904; Sat, 10 Aug 1996 10:33:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199608101733.KAA02904@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: ftp-stats@wcarchive.cdrom.com cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Daily FTP archive statistics for Sat Aug 10 03:25:59 PDT 1996 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 10 Aug 1996 03:25:59 PDT." <199608101025.DAA26533@wcarchive.cdrom.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Sat, 10 Aug 1996 10:33:56 -0700 Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Archive Stats, DAILY >Archive Name Bytes Transfered Files Transfered % Bytes %Files >------------ ---------------- ---------------- ------- ------ >.15/linux 50,785,700 K 249,050 43.9 54.2 >.2/games 17,566,908 K 19,483 15.2 4.2 >.5/idgames 15,009,408 K 17,776 13.0 3.9 >.16/FreeBSD 9,056,876 K 63,029 7.8 13.7 >.1/simtelnet 8,323,885 K 28,005 7.2 6.1 >.3/demos 4,925,054 K 22,075 4.3 4.8 >.12/win 3,092,518 K 5,730 2.7 1.2 >.5/idgames2 1,058,395 K 15,880 0.9 3.5 >.6/linux 891,374 K 10,202 0.8 2.2 >.4/os2 883,373 K 5,390 0.8 1.2 ... >Total 115,746,632 K 459,339 100.0 100.0 This is a new record, breaking the old June 25th record of 112GB/day. It's obvious that a new version of Slackware Linux is out... -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project