From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 7 02:08:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA01653 for current-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 02:08:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from omega.physik.fu-berlin.de (omega.physik.fu-berlin.de [130.133.3.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA01627 for ; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 02:08:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mordillo (oberon.physik.fu-berlin.de [130.133.3.126]) by omega.physik.fu-berlin.de (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id LAA08582; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 11:07:26 +0100 (MET) Received: (from graichen@localhost) by mordillo (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA01088; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 10:30:15 +0100 From: Thomas Graichen Message-Id: <199601070930.KAA01088@mordillo> Subject: Re: manpath.conf To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 10:30:15 +0100 (MET) Cc: root@pent.vnet.net, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199601070016.BAA17102@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at Jan 7, 96 01:16:37 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk hasn't J Wunsch said ? ... > > As Adam William Hawks wrote: > > > > From: Adam William Hawks > > Subject: Problem with manpages > > > now when I try to get to a manpage it say > > > > man: unable to find the file /etc/manpath.config > > Here's the file from the source tree: > ... i think he said the file is there - i had the same problem some time ago - but i don't know how i fixed it - maybe i remeber it in the next minutes, hour, days, ... by the way - why is there a /etc/manpath.config and a /etc/manpath.config.sample which are identical - i think we can remove the sample one - or is there any reason to have it there ? t _______________________________________________________||___________________ __|| Perfection is reached, not when there is no __|| thomas graichen longer anything to add, but when there __|| freie universitaet berlin is no longer anything to take away __|| fachbereich physik __|| - Antoine de Saint-Exupery - __|| graichen@mail.physik.fu-berlin.de ___________________________||__________________graichen@FreeBSD.org_________ From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 7 09:23:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA22895 for current-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 09:23:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA22883 for ; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 09:23:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id SAA19296 for ; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 18:23:32 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id SAA00848 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 18:23:31 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.3/8.6.9) id SAA00407 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 18:08:25 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199601071708.SAA00407@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: `make release' almost through To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 18:08:24 +0100 (MET) X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ... yeah, great News. However: cc -O -pipe -DLKM -I. -DCOMPAT_LINUX -DSYSVSHM -DSYSVMSG -DKERNEL -DACTUALLY_LKM_NOT_KERNEL -I/usr/src/lkm/linux/../../sys -W -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Winline -c /usr/src/lkm/linux/../../sys/i386/linux/linux_ipc.c /usr/src/lkm/linux/../../sys/i386/linux/linux_ipc.c:31: opt_sysvipc.h: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 (continuing) Arrgl. Yet another botched compilation. :-( Has the above already been fixed? -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 7 10:00:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA25451 for current-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 10:00:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from Sysiphos (Sysiphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA25294 for ; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 09:59:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by Sysiphos id AA11179 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org); Sun, 7 Jan 1996 18:55:01 +0100 Message-Id: <199601071755.AA11179@Sysiphos> From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 18:55:00 +0100 In-Reply-To: -Vince- "Re: -current kernel problems" (Jan 6, 9:01) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(2) 7/9/95) To: -Vince- Subject: Re: -current kernel problems Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Jan 6, 9:01, -Vince- wrote: } Subject: Re: -current kernel problems } On Sat, 6 Jan 1996, J Wunsch wrote: } } > Btw., if nobody is answering a particular question, while everyone } > seems to be happy with -current, chances are good that you should look } > into your environment again. } } I did and Stefan Esser seemed to say sysctl is having some } problems on some machines... It isn't the environment since we have the } same hardware as freefall does. Hmm, well, I remember saying that sysctl has problems on /your/ machine ... I also said, that there are ongoing changes in that area ... In general, it seems to work just fine. And I get more and more the impression, that you have rebuilt a kernel from incompatible parts ... But the "sysctl -w kern.bootfile=/kernel.old" which fails on your system is unneccesary anyway, if you are going to reboot immediately. And you just should rebuild /usr/sbin/config, configure your kernel using the new binary, and then build a kernel in a clean compile directory. Regards, STefan -- Stefan Esser, Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen Tel: +49 221 4706021 Universitaet zu Koeln, Weyertal 80, 50931 Koeln FAX: +49 221 4705160 ============================================================================== http://www.zpr.uni-koeln.de/~se From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 7 10:04:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA25824 for current-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 10:04:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from apollo.COSC.GOV (root@apollo.COSC.GOV [198.94.103.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA25819 for ; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 10:04:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from vince@localhost) by apollo.COSC.GOV (8.7.3/8.6.9) id KAA07318; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 10:00:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 10:00:58 -0800 (PST) From: -Vince- To: Stefan Esser cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -current kernel problems In-Reply-To: <199601071755.AA11179@Sysiphos> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 7 Jan 1996, Stefan Esser wrote: > On Jan 6, 9:01, -Vince- wrote: > } Subject: Re: -current kernel problems > } On Sat, 6 Jan 1996, J Wunsch wrote: > } > } > Btw., if nobody is answering a particular question, while everyone > } > seems to be happy with -current, chances are good that you should look > } > into your environment again. > } > } I did and Stefan Esser seemed to say sysctl is having some > } problems on some machines... It isn't the environment since we have the > } same hardware as freefall does. > > Hmm, well, I remember saying that sysctl has > problems on /your/ machine ... > > I also said, that there are ongoing changes > in that area ... > > In general, it seems to work just fine. And I > get more and more the impression, that you have > rebuilt a kernel from incompatible parts ... > > But the "sysctl -w kern.bootfile=/kernel.old" > which fails on your system is unneccesary anyway, > if you are going to reboot immediately. And you > just should rebuild /usr/sbin/config, configure > your kernel using the new binary, and then build > a kernel in a clean compile directory. Hmmm, the first time, I always do a kernel compile in a clean compile directory since I will always rm -rf /usr/src/sys/compile/ASTRO after every kernel compile and I did do the make world before the kernel compile so that should have rebuild the /usr/sbin/config binary and I even rm -rf /usr/src and then resupped everything just to be sure. Is there a way to debug the problem since it can't even log it to the /var/log/messages file as everything is just core dumping. Cheers, -Vince- vince@COSC.GOV - GUS Mailing Lists Admin - http://www.COSC.GOV/~vince UC Berkeley AstroPhysics - Electrical Engineering (Honorary B.S.) Chabot Observatory & Science Center - Board of Advisors Running FreeBSD - Real UN*X for Free! Linda Wong/Vivian Chow/Hacken Lee/Danny Chan/Priscilla Chan Fan Club Mailing Lists Admin From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 7 10:21:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA27303 for current-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 10:21:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from Sysiphos (Sysiphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA27183 for ; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 10:20:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by Sysiphos id AA11315 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org); Sun, 7 Jan 1996 19:16:47 +0100 Message-Id: <199601071816.AA11315@Sysiphos> From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 19:16:47 +0100 In-Reply-To: -Vince- "Re: -current kernel problems" (Jan 7, 10:00) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(2) 7/9/95) To: -Vince- Subject: Re: -current kernel problems Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Jan 7, 10:00, -Vince- wrote: } Subject: Re: -current kernel problems } On Sun, 7 Jan 1996, Stefan Esser wrote: } } > Hmm, well, I remember saying that sysctl has } > problems on /your/ machine ... } > } > I also said, that there are ongoing changes } > in that area ... } > } > In general, it seems to work just fine. And I } > get more and more the impression, that you have } > rebuilt a kernel from incompatible parts ... } > } > But the "sysctl -w kern.bootfile=/kernel.old" } > which fails on your system is unneccesary anyway, } > if you are going to reboot immediately. And you } > just should rebuild /usr/sbin/config, configure } > your kernel using the new binary, and then build } > a kernel in a clean compile directory. } } Hmmm, the first time, I always do a kernel compile in a clean } compile directory since I will always rm -rf /usr/src/sys/compile/ASTRO } after every kernel compile and I did do the make world before the kernel } compile so that should have rebuild the /usr/sbin/config binary and I } even rm -rf /usr/src and then resupped everything just to be sure. Is Ok. That sounds very convincing indeed ... :) } there a way to debug the problem since it can't even log it to the } /var/log/messages file as everything is just core dumping. - Did you manage to install a more recent kernel ? - Do you use any LKM's ? (A make world might fail to rebuild a LKM, and the incompatible LKM from an earlier build might be left alone in /lkm.) - Can you boot single user (enter "-s" at the "Boot: " prompt, fsck the file systems and mount (r/o) your /var partition ? Regards, STefan -- Stefan Esser, Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen Tel: +49 221 4706021 Universitaet zu Koeln, Weyertal 80, 50931 Koeln FAX: +49 221 4705160 ============================================================================== http://www.zpr.uni-koeln.de/~se From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 7 10:38:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA29260 for current-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 10:38:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from apollo.COSC.GOV (root@apollo.COSC.GOV [198.94.103.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA29252 for ; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 10:38:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from vince@localhost) by apollo.COSC.GOV (8.7.3/8.6.9) id KAA07789; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 10:36:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 10:36:03 -0800 (PST) From: -Vince- To: Stefan Esser cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -current kernel problems In-Reply-To: <199601071816.AA11315@Sysiphos> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 7 Jan 1996, Stefan Esser wrote: > On Jan 7, 10:00, -Vince- wrote: > } Subject: Re: -current kernel problems > } On Sun, 7 Jan 1996, Stefan Esser wrote: > } > } > Hmm, well, I remember saying that sysctl has > } > problems on /your/ machine ... > } > > } > I also said, that there are ongoing changes > } > in that area ... > } > > } > In general, it seems to work just fine. And I > } > get more and more the impression, that you have > } > rebuilt a kernel from incompatible parts ... > } > > } > But the "sysctl -w kern.bootfile=/kernel.old" > } > which fails on your system is unneccesary anyway, > } > if you are going to reboot immediately. And you > } > just should rebuild /usr/sbin/config, configure > } > your kernel using the new binary, and then build > } > a kernel in a clean compile directory. > } > } Hmmm, the first time, I always do a kernel compile in a clean > } compile directory since I will always rm -rf /usr/src/sys/compile/ASTRO > } after every kernel compile and I did do the make world before the kernel > } compile so that should have rebuild the /usr/sbin/config binary and I > } even rm -rf /usr/src and then resupped everything just to be sure. Is > > Ok. That sounds very convincing indeed ... :) > > } there a way to debug the problem since it can't even log it to the > } /var/log/messages file as everything is just core dumping. > > - Did you manage to install a more recent kernel ? Yep, and the same thing happens.... Someone else compiled a kernel with the same config on their machine but when I got it, it always panics and reboots since it can't mount the root partition. > - Do you use any LKM's ? > (A make world might fail to rebuild a LKM, and > the incompatible LKM from an earlier build might > be left alone in /lkm.) Hmmm, I never rmed any of the old /lkm's but what I did was to be sure since David told me about it, I just cd /usr/src/lkm and then did a make clean, make all, and then make install. > - Can you boot single user (enter "-s" at the "Boot: " > prompt, fsck the file systems and mount (r/o) your > /var partition ? Hmmm, this is one thing I haven't tried yet.... For some reason, the original -current kernel of 12/28/95 seemed to have messed up the root partition and deleted the entire /bin directory as well as the /stand directory, newer kernels seems to have deleted my /mnt directory but the latest ones just panic with the vm_fault and doesn't mess up my partition. I'm still on the 11/23/95 kernel now on a 1/4/96 -current system so I'm not sure what really is the problem since it seems like it's something with the memory but it worked fine with everything up to 11/23/95. Cheers, -Vince- vince@COSC.GOV - GUS Mailing Lists Admin - http://www.COSC.GOV/~vince UC Berkeley AstroPhysics - Electrical Engineering (Honorary B.S.) Chabot Observatory & Science Center - Board of Advisors Running FreeBSD - Real UN*X for Free! Linda Wong/Vivian Chow/Hacken Lee/Danny Chan/Priscilla Chan Fan Club Mailing Lists Admin From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 7 11:20:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA04000 for current-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 11:20:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from chemserv.umd.edu (chemserv.umd.edu [129.2.64.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA03981 for ; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 11:20:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from espresso.eng.umd.edu (espresso.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.13]) by chemserv.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.7) with ESMTP id OAA09730; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 14:20:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (chuckr@localhost) by espresso.eng.umd.edu (8.7.3/8.6.4) id OAA03006; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 14:20:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 14:20:09 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@espresso.eng.umd.edu To: J Wunsch cc: FreeBSD-current users Subject: Re: `make release' almost through In-Reply-To: <199601071708.SAA00407@uriah.heep.sax.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 7 Jan 1996, J Wunsch wrote: > ... yeah, great News. However: > > cc -O -pipe -DLKM -I. -DCOMPAT_LINUX -DSYSVSHM -DSYSVMSG -DKERNEL -DACTUALLY_LKM_NOT_KERNEL -I/usr/src/lkm/linux/../../sys -W -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Winline -c /usr/src/lkm/linux/../../sys/i386/linux/linux_ipc.c > /usr/src/lkm/linux/../../sys/i386/linux/linux_ipc.c:31: opt_sysvipc.h: No such file or directory > *** Error code 1 (continuing) > > Arrgl. Yet another botched compilation. :-( > > Has the above already been fixed? The ctm update src-cur.1355 fixed it, I don't do sup so I can't tell you about that, but I'm (finally) running a system with it now. > > -- > cheers, J"org > > joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE > Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) > ============================================================================ Chuck Robey chuckr@eng.umd.edu -- I run FreeBSD on n3lxx and Journey2 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Dilbert Zone is Dilbert's new WWW home! The area features never-before-seen original sketches of Dilbert, a photo tour of Scott Adams' studio, Dilbert Trivia and memorabilia, high school photos and much more!: From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 7 11:31:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA05563 for current-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 11:31:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA05547 for ; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 11:31:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601071931.LAA05547@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: Host localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: current Subject: Softc changes in teh SCSI code In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 07 Jan 1996 11:27:08 PST." <199601071927.LAA05001@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 07 Jan 1996 11:31:14 -0800 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I consider these -stable material, but I want to get feedback from someone who uses each of the affected controllers first. Please test these changes. Thanks! >gibbs 96/01/07 11:27:07 > > Modified: sys/i386/conf GENERIC > Log: > Add comment about only needing on of either ahc, ncr, or ahb type > controllers to handle any number of devices. > Remove unnecessary extra units for these controllers. > > Revision Changes Path > 1.59 +3 -2 src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC > > Modified: sys/i386/eisa aha1742.c > Log: > Use the new adapter_softc field in the scsi_link structure so that > this driver no longer needs to maintain an array of configured units. > > Pass "softc" pointers instead of unit numbers to many functions that > did a conversion for unit->softc anyway. > > Revision Changes Path > 1.47 +66 -79 src/sys/i386/eisa/aha1742.c > > Modified: sys/i386/isa aha1542.c aic6360.c ncr5380.c seagate.c > ultra14f.c > Log: > Use the new adapter_softc field in the scsi_link structure so that > in the future, these drivers won't need to maintain an array of > configured units. They still need to because ISA interrupt handlers > take a unit number. :( > > Pass "softc" pointers instead of unit numbers to many functions that > did a conversion of unit->softc anyway. > > Revision Changes Path > 1.55 +89 -89 src/sys/i386/isa/aha1542.c > 1.19 +12 -12 src/sys/i386/isa/aic6360.c > 1.10 +3 -2 src/sys/i386/isa/ncr5380.c > 1.16 +14 -11 src/sys/i386/isa/seagate.c > 1.44 +106 -110 src/sys/i386/isa/ultra14f.c > > Modified: sys/i386/scsi aic7xxx.c aic7xxx.h bt.c > Log: > Use the new adapter_softc field in the scsi_link structure so that > these drivers don't need to maintain an array of configured units. > > The bt driver still needs to because ISA interrupt handlers take a > unit number. :( > > Revision Changes Path > 1.53 +14 -33 src/sys/i386/scsi/aic7xxx.c > 1.18 +1 -3 src/sys/i386/scsi/aic7xxx.h > 1.4 +6 -6 src/sys/i386/scsi/bt.c > > Modified: sys/pci aic7870.c ncr.c > Log: > Write the cahesize and latency timer values back into configuration > space (whoops!). > > Add a missing argument to the cachesize/lattime printf. > > Set the CACHETHEN bit in DSCommand. > > Revision Changes Path > 1.22 +6 -1 src/sys/pci/aic7870.c > 1.54 +4 -11 src/sys/pci/ncr.c > > Modified: sys/scsi scsiconf.h > Log: > Add an adapter_softc field to the scsi_link struct. > > Revision Changes Path > 1.37 +2 -1 src/sys/scsi/scsiconf.h -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 7 12:21:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA10497 for current-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 12:21:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA10481 for ; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 12:21:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id VAA23269 for ; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 21:21:34 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id VAA02728 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 21:21:34 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.3/8.6.9) id VAA00991 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 21:17:41 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199601072017.VAA00991@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: `make release' almost through To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 21:17:41 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: from "Chuck Robey" at Jan 7, 96 02:20:09 pm X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Chuck Robey wrote: > > > > > Arrgl. Yet another botched compilation. :-( > > > > Has the above already been fixed? > > The ctm update src-cur.1355 fixed it, I don't do sup so I can't tell you > about that, but I'm (finally) running a system with it now. I'm also using CTM, but to get the CVS tree mirrored, so the sequence numbers do not correlate. Let's see, i will retry the `make release'. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 7 14:00:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA19453 for current-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 14:00:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA19440 for ; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 14:00:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA20426; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 14:00:04 -0800 To: J Wunsch cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Subject: Re: `make release' almost through In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 07 Jan 1996 18:08:24 +0100." <199601071708.SAA00407@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Sun, 07 Jan 1996 14:00:04 -0800 Message-ID: <20424.821052004@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Arrgl. Yet another botched compilation. :-( > > Has the above already been fixed? I believe it has been. The `make release' I've had running on my little 486DX2 gateway machine is almost finished (15 hours or so it's been). Jordna From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 7 20:53:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA12412 for current-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 20:53:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA12406 for ; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 20:53:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA21754 for ; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 20:53:29 -0800 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Prognosis of 2.2-960107-SNAP Date: Sun, 07 Jan 1996 20:53:28 -0800 Message-ID: <21752.821076808@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Well, it's got some problems. I got it to install just fine, both via FTP and NFS, and the new 2.2 system came up happily announcing the details of new features like rndcontrol and such, then I was unable to log in due to a missing `libcrypt.so.2.0'. No /usr/libexec/telnetd either, for some reason, and this was theoretically a full `Developer' install. Hmmmm. I shall investigate, naturally, starting with a close examination of the contents of each and every dist, but between now and the time that I get all of the release-building bits working again will probably be a couple of days. I think we can count on 2.2-960107-SNAP becoming 2.2-960110-SNAP, or even later. :-) Just FYI.. Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 7 21:20:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA13478 for current-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 21:20:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.lightside.com (user37.lightside.com [198.81.209.37]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA13473 for ; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 21:20:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jehamby@localhost) by localhost.lightside.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id VAA00413; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 21:21:10 -0800 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 21:20:39 -0800 (PST) From: Jake Hamby X-Sender: jehamby@localhost To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Prognosis of 2.2-960107-SNAP In-Reply-To: <21752.821076808@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 7 Jan 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > I shall investigate, naturally, starting with a close examination of > the contents of each and every dist, but between now and the time that > I get all of the release-building bits working again will probably be > a couple of days. I think we can count on 2.2-960107-SNAP becoming > 2.2-960110-SNAP, or even later. :-) > > Just FYI.. Oh darn, and today's my birthday, too! The date has special significance for me, can't you fix the bugs today, just for me? (Just giving you a hard time, but the birthday bit is true) ;-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jake Hamby | E-Mail: jehamby@lightside.com Student, Cal Poly University, Pomona | System Administrator, JPL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 7 21:32:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA14145 for current-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 21:32:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA14140 for ; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 21:32:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA21973; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 21:32:25 -0800 To: Jake Hamby cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Prognosis of 2.2-960107-SNAP In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 07 Jan 1996 21:20:39 PST." Date: Sun, 07 Jan 1996 21:32:25 -0800 Message-ID: <21971.821079145@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Oh darn, and today's my birthday, too! The date has special significance > for me, can't you fix the bugs today, just for me? (Just giving you a > hard time, but the birthday bit is true) ;-) I'd get really worked up about it, but you're about the 3rd person who's said this to me about a missed snap date. I've become hardened to it.. :-) [seriously! I guess once you have enough people, that's a lot of Birthdays] Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 7 21:34:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA14361 for current-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 21:34:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA14356 for ; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 21:34:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA22003; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 21:33:54 -0800 To: Jake Hamby cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Prognosis of 2.2-960107-SNAP In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 07 Jan 1996 21:20:39 PST." Date: Sun, 07 Jan 1996 21:33:54 -0800 Message-ID: <22001.821079234@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk P.S. Happy Birthday! :-) From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 7 21:50:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA15024 for current-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 21:50:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.org (root@hub.org [199.166.238.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA15010 for ; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 21:50:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scrappy@localhost) by hub.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA04907; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 00:48:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 00:48:51 -0500 (EST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" X-Sender: scrappy@hub.org To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Prognosis of 2.2-960107-SNAP In-Reply-To: <21752.821076808@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 7 Jan 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > Well, it's got some problems. I got it to install just fine, both via > FTP and NFS, and the new 2.2 system came up happily announcing the > details of new features like rndcontrol and such, then I was unable to > log in due to a missing `libcrypt.so.2.0'. No /usr/libexec/telnetd > either, for some reason, and this was theoretically a full `Developer' > install. > > Hmmmm. > > I shall investigate, naturally, starting with a close examination of > the contents of each and every dist, but between now and the time that > I get all of the release-building bits working again will probably be > a couple of days. I think we can count on 2.2-960107-SNAP becoming > 2.2-960110-SNAP, or even later. :-) > > Just FYI.. > Just FYI... But after repeated attempts to compile, I can't get pkg_manage to compile, due to a missing ui_objects.h file... I'm not doing a 'make world', or a 'make release'...just simply cd'ng into '/usr/src/usr.sbin' and doing a 'make depend; make'. The file in question is below, and has been like this for a few weeks. The sources are current to the 5th, but this problem was there in December, when I first tried to get all the binaries up to date. I've done a find on the system, and its nowhere to be found, and, if I recall correctly, when I move the include, it calls up a bunch of other errors. Any ideas? /*************************************************************** * * Program: pkg_main.c * Author: Marc van Kempen * Desc: main routine for pkg_manage * * Copyright (c) 1995, Marc van Kempen * * All rights reserved. * * This software may be used, modified, copied, distributed, and * sold, in both source and binary form provided that the above * copyright and these terms are retained, verbatim, as the first * lines of this file. Under no circumstances is the author * responsible for the proper functioning of this software, nor does * the author assume any responsibility for damages incurred with * its use. * ***************************************************************/ #include "pkg_manage.h" #include "ui_objects.h" Marc G. Fournier | POP Mail Telnet Acct DNS Hosting System | WWW Services Database Services | Knowledge, Administrator | | Information and scrappy@ki.net | WWW: http://www.ki.net | Communications, Inc From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 7 22:11:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA15913 for current-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 22:11:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA15908 for ; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 22:11:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA22158; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 22:10:16 -0800 To: "Marc G. Fournier" cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Prognosis of 2.2-960107-SNAP In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 08 Jan 1996 00:48:51 EST." Date: Sun, 07 Jan 1996 22:10:15 -0800 Message-ID: <22156.821081415@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Just FYI... > > But after repeated attempts to compile, I can't get pkg_manage > to compile, due to a missing ui_objects.h file... Then you have a hosed system in some way: root@whisker-> uname -a FreeBSD whisker.cdrom.com 2.2-CURRENT FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT #0: Fri Jan 5 13:21:35 PST 1996 jkh@whisker.cdrom.com:/a/src-current/sys/compile/WHISKER i386 root@whisker-> cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/pkg_manage/ root@whisker-> make clean all rm -f a.out [Ee]rrs mklog pkg_manage pkg_main.o pkg_manage.o pkg_ui.o version.o pkg_manage.1.gz cc -O -pipe -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -DHELP_PATH=\"/usr/share/misc/pkg_manage/\" -I/a/src-current/usr.sbin/pkg_manage/../../gnu/lib/libdialog -I/a/src-current/usr.sbin/pkg_manage/../../lib/libncurses -c /a/src-current/usr.sbin/pkg_manage/pkg_main.c cc -O -pipe -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -DHELP_PATH=\"/usr/share/misc/pkg_manage/\" -I/a/src-current/usr.sbin/pkg_manage/../../gnu/lib/libdialog -I/a/src-current/usr.sbin/pkg_manage/../../lib/libncurses -c /a/src-current/usr.sbin/pkg_manage/pkg_manage.c cc -O -pipe -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -DHELP_PATH=\"/usr/share/misc/pkg_manage/\" -I/a/src-current/usr.sbin/pkg_manage/../../gnu/lib/libdialog -I/a/src-current/usr.sbin/pkg_manage/../../lib/libncurses -c /a/src-current/usr.sbin/pkg_manage/pkg_ui.c cc -O -pipe -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -DHELP_PATH=\"/usr/share/misc/pkg_manage/\" -I/a/src-current/usr.sbin/pkg_manage/../../gnu/lib/libdialog -I/a/src-current/usr.sbin/pkg_manage/../../lib/libncurses -c /a/src-current/usr.sbin/pkg_manage/version.c cc -O -pipe -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -DHELP_PATH=\"/usr/share/misc/pkg_manage/\" -I/a/src-current/usr.sbin/pkg_manage/../../gnu/lib/libdialog -I/a/src-current/usr.sbin/pkg_manage/../../lib/libncurses -o pkg_manage pkg_main.o pkg_manage.o pkg_ui.o version.o -ldialog -lncurses -lmytinfo gzip -c /a/src-current/usr.sbin/pkg_manage/pkg_manage.1 > pkg_manage.1.gz root@whisker-> From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 7 23:13:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA18483 for current-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 23:13:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from werple.net.au (werple.mira.net.au [203.9.190.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA18477 for ; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 23:13:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from cimaxp1.UUCP (Ucimlogi@localhost) by werple.net.au (8.7/8.7.1) with UUCP id RAA01973 for current@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 17:51:16 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <199601080651.RAA01973@werple.net.au> X-Authentication-Warning: werple.net.au: Ucimlogi set sender to cimaxp1!jb using -f Received: by cimaxp1.cimlogic.com.au; (5.65/1.1.8.2/10Sep95-0953AM) id AA15137; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 17:37:59 +1100 From: John Birrell Subject: Ethernet packet loss To: current@FreeBSD.org Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 17:37:58 +1100 (EST) Cc: jb@cimlogic.com.au X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk G'day, I've just updated a system to 2.2-current as sup'd on Jan 6 and I'm losing lots of packets on a local BASE2 network. The system is configured like this: FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT #0: Tue Jan 9 13:39:55 EST 1996 jb@freebsd1.cimlogic.com.au:/u/freebsd/src/sys/compile/FREEBSD1 CPU: i486DX (486-class CPU) real memory = 8388608 (8192K bytes) avail memory = 6877184 (6716K bytes) Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 765 fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 812MB (1664208 sectors), 1651 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S ie0 at 0x360-0x36f irq 7 maddr 0xd0000 msize 65536 on isa <3C507 R1> ethernet address 00:60:8c:5b:06:4a npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface new masks: bio c0004040, tty c0030098, net c0030098 The ethernet card is a 3COM Etherlink 16. I sometimes run NetBSD 1.1A on the same hardware using another disk and the network works fine (I just tried this again to prove to myself that it _still_ works fine). With FreeBSD, though, I have problems with things like NFS (client writes from FreeBSD lock access to the NFS mounted directory), ftp is very slow, rlogins don't always succeed... ping to other machines on the network reports up to 39% packet loss. ping from other machines to the FreeBSD machine reports 0% loss. The FreeBSD figures are worst when the machine is loaded (like a compile). I was having problems before the last sup, so I upgraded to see if life was any better. Its not. 8-(. Is it me? Any help would be appreciated. Regards, -- John Birrell CIMlogic Pty Ltd jb@cimlogic.com.au 119 Cecil Street Ph +61 3 9690 6900 South Melbourne Vic 3205 Fax +61 3 9690 6650 Australia Mob +61 18 353 137 From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 7 23:50:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA20035 for current-outgoing; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 23:50:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from else (root@else.net [204.92.4.245]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA20030 for ; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 23:50:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by else (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0tZCN3-000MGtC; Mon, 8 Jan 96 02:51 EST Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 02:51:56 -0500 (EST) From: James FitzGibbon To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Disposition of unknown PCI ethernet solved Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Two quick notes: 1. The PCI Ethernet card (vendor 0x10ec, device 0x8029) that I couldn't get to work can be added to the database as an NE-2000 compatible. It turns out that it is compatible, but that it's default iobase is 0xff80, and it has no card-related shared memory setup. 2. The visual kernel configuration program caused be half the problems with this card because it limits iobase entries for the ed0? device to no more than 0x2000. Using the command-line config program, it can be set higher. (I know, I know, I should be unix-masochistic and forgoe all visual tools, using ex and grep as my only editing tools. Nuts to that, if the visual tool is there, people will use it, and it should be up-to-date with it's command-line cousin) j. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 8 00:01:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA20428 for current-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 00:01:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA20409 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 00:01:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA15987; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 18:56:57 +1100 Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 18:56:57 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199601080756.SAA15987@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: jkh@time.cdrom.com, scrappy@ki.net Subject: Re: Prognosis of 2.2-960107-SNAP Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > But after repeated attempts to compile, I can't get pkg_manage >to compile, due to a missing ui_objects.h file... ui_objects.h is in /usr/src/gnu/lib/libdialog which is in the include path. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 8 00:40:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA22621 for current-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 00:40:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from hub.org (root@hub.org [199.166.238.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA22616 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 00:40:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from scrappy@localhost) by hub.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA07405; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 03:38:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 03:38:00 -0500 (EST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" X-Sender: scrappy@hub.org To: Bruce Evans cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Prognosis of 2.2-960107-SNAP In-Reply-To: <199601080756.SAA15987@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 8 Jan 1996, Bruce Evans wrote: > > But after repeated attempts to compile, I can't get pkg_manage > >to compile, due to a missing ui_objects.h file... > > ui_objects.h is in /usr/src/gnu/lib/libdialog which is in the include > path. > Thanks...I've been royally chastised for this one :( I hadn't sup'd in the gnu or games source trees, as I wrong assumed that I could get away without having them (until I get a new drive in here, I'm a little tight on space *sigh*) I'm sup'ng in the gnu stuff now... Marc G. Fournier | POP Mail Telnet Acct DNS Hosting System | WWW Services Database Services | Knowledge, Administrator | | Information and scrappy@ki.net | WWW: http://www.ki.net | Communications, Inc From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 8 01:05:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA23597 for current-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 01:05:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA23493 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 01:03:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id TAA01821; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 19:30:51 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601080900.TAA01821@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Disposition of unknown PCI ethernet solved To: james@else.net (James FitzGibbon) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 19:30:51 +1030 (CST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "James FitzGibbon" at Jan 8, 96 02:51:56 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk James FitzGibbon stands accused of saying: > 2. The visual kernel configuration program caused be half the problems > with this card because it limits iobase entries for the ed0? device to no > more than 0x2000. Using the command-line config program, it can be set > higher. The visual config editor was not designed with PCI devices in mind, as they were supposed to be automatically probed. 0x2000 is (AFAIK) the highest legitimate address to which one would want to set an ISA or ISA-like device to. If the PCI code (Stefan?) can't bend the ed driver around to talk to this card, then obviously visuserconfig() should be updated 8) > j. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 8 01:42:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA25698 for current-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 01:42:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA25689 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 01:42:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.50]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id BAA00219; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 01:42:21 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.7.3/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA01488; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 01:42:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601080942.BAA01488@corbin.Root.COM> To: Michael Smith cc: james@else.net (James FitzGibbon), current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disposition of unknown PCI ethernet solved In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 08 Jan 96 19:30:51 +1030." <199601080900.TAA01821@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Mon, 08 Jan 1996 01:42:20 -0800 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >James FitzGibbon stands accused of saying: > >> 2. The visual kernel configuration program caused be half the problems >> with this card because it limits iobase entries for the ed0? device to no >> more than 0x2000. Using the command-line config program, it can be set >> higher. > >The visual config editor was not designed with PCI devices in mind, as >they were supposed to be automatically probed. 0x2000 is (AFAIK) the >highest legitimate address to which one would want to set an ISA or >ISA-like device to. > >If the PCI code (Stefan?) can't bend the ed driver around to talk to this >card, then obviously visuserconfig() should be updated 8) The 'ed' driver is an ISA device, not PCI. There is nothing special about 0x2000 - ISA devices can use port addresses anywhere in the 16bit 0x0-0xffff range. -DG David Greenman Core Team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 8 01:49:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA26167 for current-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 01:49:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz201.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz201.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA26151 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 01:49:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz201.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id KAA27508 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 10:48:23 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id KAA00667 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 10:48:22 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.3/8.6.9) id KAA20898 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 10:43:45 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199601080943.KAA20898@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: `make release' almost through To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 10:43:45 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <20424.821052004@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Jan 7, 96 02:00:04 pm X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > Arrgl. Yet another botched compilation. :-( > > > > Has the above already been fixed? > > I believe it has been. The `make release' I've had running on my little > 486DX2 gateway machine is almost finished (15 hours or so it's been). Hmm, about the same time as it takes on my 486/33. :-) Though i've got 32 MB in the machine, so the interactive response behaviour doesn't suffer from the background compilation. It's only that i'm getting nervous now since i wanna reboot and test a new kernel. ;) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 8 01:53:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA26490 for current-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 01:53:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA26353 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 01:51:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id UAA02007; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 20:18:51 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601080948.UAA02007@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Disposition of unknown PCI ethernet solved To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 20:18:51 +1030 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, james@else.net, current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601080942.BAA01488@corbin.Root.COM> from "David Greenman" at Jan 8, 96 01:42:20 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk David Greenman stands accused of saying: > >If the PCI code (Stefan?) can't bend the ed driver around to talk to this > >card, then obviously visuserconfig() should be updated 8) > > The 'ed' driver is an ISA device, not PCI. There is nothing special about > 0x2000 - ISA devices can use port addresses anywhere in the 16bit 0x0-0xffff > range. Hmm, then why did I pick it? 8) I'm aware that 0x400 is the conventional hardware limit for 'true' ISA, and my recollection is that there were a few extra address line son EISA slots, but I'm obviously hazy on that one. > David Greenman -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 8 02:29:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA29221 for current-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 02:29:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA29215 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 02:29:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from corbin.Root.COM (corbin [198.145.90.50]) by Root.COM (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id CAA00330; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 02:29:02 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corbin.Root.COM (8.7.3/8.6.5) with SMTP id CAA01549; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 02:29:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601081029.CAA01549@corbin.Root.COM> To: Michael Smith cc: james@else.net, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disposition of unknown PCI ethernet solved In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 08 Jan 96 20:18:51 +1030." <199601080948.UAA02007@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Mon, 08 Jan 1996 02:28:59 -0800 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >David Greenman stands accused of saying: >> >If the PCI code (Stefan?) can't bend the ed driver around to talk to this >> >card, then obviously visuserconfig() should be updated 8) >> >> The 'ed' driver is an ISA device, not PCI. There is nothing special about >> 0x2000 - ISA devices can use port addresses anywhere in the 16bit 0x0-0xffff >> range. > >Hmm, then why did I pick it? 8) I was kinda hoping that you'd be able to tell me... :-) > I'm aware that 0x400 is the conventional >hardware limit for 'true' ISA, and my recollection is that there were a few >extra address line son EISA slots, but I'm obviously hazy on that one. Early ISA controllers only decode 10 bits worth. The convention for EISA is slot # * 0x1000. -DG David Greenman Core Team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 8 02:43:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA00104 for current-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 02:43:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA29996 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 02:43:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.7.3/8.6.9) id CAA13701; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 02:43:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 02:43:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601081043.CAA13701@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: phk@critter.tfs.com CC: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <3313.820938475@critter.tfs.com> (message from Poul-Henning Kamp on Sat, 06 Jan 1996 15:27:55 +0100) Subject: Re: Current is looking more stable these days..? From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I think that's fine. By the way, don't forget to let the ports and packages be fetched from ports-current and packages-current on the ftp site, without the "-current" users will get 2.1 versions. I don't have time to rebuild all the packages right now (although many of them are already built over the last couple of weeks). Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 8 03:27:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA02658 for current-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 03:27:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA02645 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 03:26:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id DAA28962 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 03:24:41 -0800 Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id MAA09836 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 12:21:40 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id MAA03337 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 12:21:40 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.3/8.6.9) id MAA27003 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 12:16:15 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199601081116.MAA27003@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Prognosis of 2.2-960107-SNAP To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 12:16:15 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <21752.821076808@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Jan 7, 96 08:53:28 pm X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Well, it's got some problems. I got it to install just fine, both via > FTP and NFS, and the new 2.2 system came up happily announcing the > details of new features like rndcontrol and such, then I was unable to > log in due to a missing `libcrypt.so.2.0'. No /usr/libexec/telnetd > either, for some reason, and this was theoretically a full `Developer' > install. My `bin' distribution is just being built, let's see if i get the same results. (The compilation is running for 13 hours by now. :) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 8 03:52:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA03813 for current-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 03:52:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz101.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz101.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA03705 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 03:51:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz101.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id MAA11661 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 12:50:51 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id MAA03583 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 12:50:50 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.3/8.6.9) id MAA28030 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 12:40:18 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199601081140.MAA28030@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Prognosis of 2.2-960107-SNAP To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 12:40:18 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: from "Marc G. Fournier" at Jan 8, 96 03:38:00 am X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Back to the subject: My latest `make release' was seriously hosed. Errors, errors, errors. :-( j@uriah 318% ls stage/trees/bin/usr/lib stage/trees/bin/usr/lib: c++rt0.o libgcc.a libl.a crt0.o libgcc.so.261.0 libln.a gcrt0.o libgcc_pic.a libmp.a kzhead.o libgmp.a libmp.so.2.0 kztail.o libgmp.so.2.0 libreadline.a libc.a libgnumalloc.a libreadline.so.3.0 libdialog.a libgnumalloc.so.2.0 scrt0.o libdialog.so.3.0 libgnuregex.a sgcrt0.o libg++.a libgnuregex.so.2.0 libg++.so.3.0 libkeycap.a A bit few for a full /usr/lib dir, ain't it? :-/ I'm going to restart it now... -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 8 04:04:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA04458 for current-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 04:04:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from originat.demon.co.uk (originat.demon.co.uk [158.152.220.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA04444 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 04:04:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from paul@localhost) by originat.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA00396; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 12:00:07 GMT From: Paul Richards Message-Id: <199601081200.MAA00396@originat.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: Prognosis of 2.2-960107-SNAP To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 12:00:07 +0000 (GMT) Cc: jehamby@lightside.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <21971.821079145@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Jan 7, 96 09:32:25 pm Reply-to: paul@netcraft.co.uk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In reply to Jordan K. Hubbard who said > > > Oh darn, and today's my birthday, too! The date has special significance > > for me, can't you fix the bugs today, just for me? (Just giving you a > > hard time, but the birthday bit is true) ;-) > > I'd get really worked up about it, but you're about the 3rd person > who's said this to me about a missed snap date. I've become hardened > to it.. :-) > > [seriously! I guess once you have enough people, that's a lot of > Birthdays] Isn't there some mathematical puzzle that says something like, you only need 27 people in a room for one of them to have a birthday the same day as yours? Given the numbers we have, we've probably got every day covered. -- Paul Richards, Netcraft Ltd. Internet: paul@netcraft.co.uk, http://www.netcraft.co.uk Phone: 0370 462071 (Mobile), +44 1225 447500 (work) From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 8 04:10:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA04682 for current-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 04:10:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA04675 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 04:10:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id EAA23579; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 04:01:20 -0800 To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) cc: phk@critter.tfs.com, joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Current is looking more stable these days..? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 08 Jan 1996 02:43:09 PST." <199601081043.CAA13701@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Mon, 08 Jan 1996 04:01:20 -0800 Message-ID: <23576.821102480@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I think that's fine. By the way, don't forget to let the ports and > packages be fetched from ports-current and packages-current on the ftp > site, without the "-current" users will get 2.1 versions. No problem. > I don't have time to rebuild all the packages right now (although many > of them are already built over the last couple of weeks). Not necessary - we're mostly just trying to test the base bits here with the snapshots.. Once we get further along in 2.2's development cycle, perhaps we can talk about updating ports! :) Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 8 04:12:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA04772 for current-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 04:12:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA04738 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 04:11:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id EAA23629; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 04:08:18 -0800 To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Subject: Re: Prognosis of 2.2-960107-SNAP In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 08 Jan 1996 12:16:15 +0100." <199601081116.MAA27003@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Mon, 08 Jan 1996 04:08:18 -0800 Message-ID: <23627.821102898@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > My `bin' distribution is just being built, let's see if i get the same > results. (The compilation is running for 13 hours by now. :) Well, it's got no usr/lib/libcrypt* of any sort (I thought we should at least include a symlink and the md5 version?) and usr/libexec/telnetd is missing. It's almost as if des masked bin.. :-) Something gone `spang' in release/Makefile, no doubt. I got side-tracked into working on other things, but I intend to get back to this. Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 8 04:14:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA04919 for current-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 04:14:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA04910 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 04:13:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id NAA11987 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 13:13:38 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id NAA03738 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 13:13:38 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.3/8.6.9) id NAA00313 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 13:07:18 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199601081207.NAA00313@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Disposition of unknown PCI ethernet solved To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 13:07:18 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199601080948.UAA02007@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from "Michael Smith" at Jan 8, 96 08:18:51 pm X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Michael Smith wrote: > Hmm, then why did I pick it? 8) I'm aware that 0x400 is the conventional > hardware limit for 'true' ISA, and my recollection is that there were a few > extra address line son EISA slots, but I'm obviously hazy on that one. Even ``true ISA'' cards get all addresses, but usually decode only the lower 10 bits. That's why the S3 chips with their 0x**e8 addresses collide with a COM4 on 0x2e8 -- the latter do also recognize e.g. 0x62e8 as `their' address. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 8 05:02:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA07708 for current-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 05:02:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from tfs.com (tfs.com [140.145.250.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA07703 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 05:02:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from critter.tfs.com by tfs.com (smail3.1.28.1) with SMTP id m0tZHDr-0003wnC; Mon, 8 Jan 96 05:02 PST Received: from localhost.tfs.com (localhost.tfs.com [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA00869; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 14:02:46 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: critter.tfs.com: Host localhost.tfs.com didn't use HELO protocol To: paul@netcraft.co.uk cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard), jehamby@lightside.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Prognosis of 2.2-960107-SNAP In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 08 Jan 1996 12:00:07 GMT." <199601081200.MAA00396@originat.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 08 Jan 1996 14:02:45 +0100 Message-ID: <867.821106165@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Isn't there some mathematical puzzle that says something like, you > only need 27 people in a room for one of them to have a birthday the > same day as yours? Given the numbers we have, we've probably got > every day covered. > It's not a puzzle, it's probability, and yes it is true, around 25 the probability goes above 50%. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 8 07:12:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA14542 for current-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 07:12:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from Sysiphos (Sysiphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA14528 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 07:12:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by Sysiphos id AA25436 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for current@freebsd.org); Mon, 8 Jan 1996 16:11:28 +0100 Message-Id: <199601081511.AA25436@Sysiphos> From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 16:11:27 +0100 In-Reply-To: Michael Smith "Re: Disposition of unknown PCI ethernet solved" (Jan 8, 19:30) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(2) 7/9/95) To: Michael Smith Subject: Re: Disposition of unknown PCI ethernet solved Cc: current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Jan 8, 19:30, Michael Smith wrote: } Subject: Re: Disposition of unknown PCI ethernet solved } James FitzGibbon stands accused of saying: } } > 2. The visual kernel configuration program caused be half the problems } > with this card because it limits iobase entries for the ed0? device to no } > more than 0x2000. Using the command-line config program, it can be set } > higher. } } The visual config editor was not designed with PCI devices in mind, as } they were supposed to be automatically probed. 0x2000 is (AFAIK) the } highest legitimate address to which one would want to set an ISA or } ISA-like device to. } } If the PCI code (Stefan?) can't bend the ed driver around to talk to this } card, then obviously visuserconfig() should be updated 8) There are now PCI versions of the Lance and the NE 2000, and they can easily be probed by the PCI code, provided the driver can be initialized to use arbitrary ports. A similar approach like for the BT946C can be taken. I just did not have the time to add stubs for them, and to check whether the drivers are already flexible enough. (If nobody else beats me on this, I promise to do it before the end of the month ...) BTW: The I/O address is assigned by the PCI BIOS, and it does not suffice to set it to the port it happened to be at in some particular system. Moving it to another slot may change the I/O address, for example ... Regards, STefan -- Stefan Esser, Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen Tel: +49 221 4706021 Universitaet zu Koeln, Weyertal 80, 50931 Koeln FAX: +49 221 4705160 ============================================================================== http://www.zpr.uni-koeln.de/~se From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 8 12:35:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA04709 for current-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 12:35:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA04697 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 12:35:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA10320; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 13:27:28 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601082027.NAA10320@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Prognosis of 2.2-960107-SNAP To: phk@critter.tfs.com (Poul-Henning Kamp) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 13:27:28 -0700 (MST) Cc: paul@netcraft.co.uk, jkh@time.cdrom.com, jehamby@lightside.com, current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <867.821106165@critter.tfs.com> from "Poul-Henning Kamp" at Jan 8, 96 02:02:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Isn't there some mathematical puzzle that says something like, you > > only need 27 people in a room for one of them to have a birthday the > > same day as yours? Given the numbers we have, we've probably got > > every day covered. > > It's not a puzzle, it's probability, and yes it is true, around > 25 the probability goes above 50%. But it's not a guarantee. I think the formalism is "two of the people in the room will have the same birthday" -- ie: your particular birthday isn't special. I loved putting this to a test once (I happened to know the majority of the people in the room) when someone didn't understand the difference between ontology and epistimology and stated as a "fact" that there would be two people with the same birthday. There weren't. It wasn't an impossibility for this to be the case, merely an improbability. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 8 13:34:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA10528 for current-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 13:34:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA10476 Mon, 8 Jan 1996 13:34:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id WAA09249; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 22:34:01 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id WAA08317; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 22:34:01 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.3/8.6.9) id WAA16985; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 22:20:27 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199601082120.WAA16985@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Good News :) To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users), freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 22:20:26 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've burnt my first CD today! Well, i sorta mis-burnt two of them, but the first step has been done. :-) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 8 16:35:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA22181 for current-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 16:35:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from apollo.COSC.GOV (root@apollo.COSC.GOV [198.94.103.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA22171 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 16:34:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from vince@localhost) by apollo.COSC.GOV (8.7.3/8.6.9) id QAA02577; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 16:34:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 16:34:43 -0800 (PST) From: -Vince- To: Stefan Esser cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -current kernel problems In-Reply-To: <199601071816.AA11315@Sysiphos> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 7 Jan 1996, Stefan Esser wrote: > On Jan 7, 10:00, -Vince- wrote: > } Subject: Re: -current kernel problems > } On Sun, 7 Jan 1996, Stefan Esser wrote: > } > } > Hmm, well, I remember saying that sysctl has > } > problems on /your/ machine ... > } > > } > I also said, that there are ongoing changes > } > in that area ... > } > > } > In general, it seems to work just fine. And I > } > get more and more the impression, that you have > } > rebuilt a kernel from incompatible parts ... > } > > } > But the "sysctl -w kern.bootfile=/kernel.old" > } > which fails on your system is unneccesary anyway, > } > if you are going to reboot immediately. And you > } > just should rebuild /usr/sbin/config, configure > } > your kernel using the new binary, and then build > } > a kernel in a clean compile directory. > } > } Hmmm, the first time, I always do a kernel compile in a clean > } compile directory since I will always rm -rf /usr/src/sys/compile/ASTRO > } after every kernel compile and I did do the make world before the kernel > } compile so that should have rebuild the /usr/sbin/config binary and I > } even rm -rf /usr/src and then resupped everything just to be sure. Is > > Ok. That sounds very convincing indeed ... :) > > } there a way to debug the problem since it can't even log it to the > } /var/log/messages file as everything is just core dumping. > > - Did you manage to install a more recent kernel ? Yep and it is working now... > - Do you use any LKM's ? > (A make world might fail to rebuild a LKM, and > the incompatible LKM from an earlier build might > be left alone in /lkm.) Hmmm, what are LKM's anyways because I had to delete everything in /lkm and then rebuild the lkm directory from /usr/src/lkm since it seemed like /lkm was all dated the same as the last make world. > - Can you boot single user (enter "-s" at the "Boot: " > prompt, fsck the file systems and mount (r/o) your > /var partition ? Yep, this works fine. There is a problem however when I started up: starting local daemons: /usr/sbin/ncrcontrol: no symbol "_ncrp" in "/kernel" Any ideas? Cheers, -Vince- vince@COSC.GOV - GUS Mailing Lists Admin - http://www.COSC.GOV/~vince UC Berkeley AstroPhysics - Electrical Engineering (Honorary B.S.) Chabot Observatory & Science Center - Board of Advisors Running FreeBSD - Real UN*X for Free! Linda Wong/Vivian Chow/Hacken Lee/Danny Chan/Priscilla Chan Fan Club Mailing Lists Admin From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 8 18:03:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA27950 for current-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 18:03:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA27792 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 17:58:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA04004; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 12:26:29 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601090156.MAA04004@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Disposition of unknown PCI ethernet solved To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 12:26:28 +1030 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, james@else.net, current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601081029.CAA01549@corbin.Root.COM> from "David Greenman" at Jan 8, 96 02:28:59 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk David Greenman stands accused of saying: > >Hmm, then why did I pick it? 8) > > I was kinda hoping that you'd be able to tell me... :-) > > > I'm aware that 0x400 is the conventional > >hardware limit for 'true' ISA, and my recollection is that there were a few > >extra address line son EISA slots, but I'm obviously hazy on that one. > > Early ISA controllers only decode 10 bits worth. The convention for EISA > is slot # * 0x1000. Ok, kill it 8) The fix would just be : *** userconfig.c Mon Dec 11 02:33:54 1995 --- /tmp/userconfig.c Tue Jan 9 12:26:40 1996 *************** *** 1598,1605 **** ep_iobase: if (dev->iobase > 0) { ! puthelp(" IO Port address (Hexadecimal, 0x1-0x2000)"); ! ret = editval(18,18,5,1,0x1,0x2000,&(dev->iobase),(dev->attrib & FLG_FIXIOBASE)); switch(ret) { case KEY_EXIT: --- 1598,1605 ---- ep_iobase: if (dev->iobase > 0) { ! puthelp(" IO Port address (Hexadecimal, 0x1-0xffff)"); ! ret = editval(18,18,5,1,0x1,0xffff,&(dev->iobase),(dev->attrib & FLG_FIXIOBASE)); switch(ret) { case KEY_EXIT: > David Greenman -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 8 22:41:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA15958 for current-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 22:41:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA15950 Mon, 8 Jan 1996 22:41:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA27900; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 22:41:21 -0800 To: phk@freebsd.org cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Syncing CTM and SNAPS? Date: Mon, 08 Jan 1996 22:41:21 -0800 Message-ID: <27898.821169681@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hey Poul-H, You know those big `base deltas' you make for CTM? The ones that serve as a jumping-off point for all the updates that follow? Well, all this talk of a 2.2 SNAP has me thinking.. Why not try to sync the SNAP dates with whatever mechanism you have for generating base deltas, so that on the day a SNAP is produced you also have a base you can grab over FTP (e.g. don't even bother installing the source distribution) and jump straight into -current. I don't intend to do 2.2 SNAPS very often, mind you, but it seems that when I do, we should try to maximize their benefit to the hacker community! What do you think? Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 8 23:48:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA18603 for current-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 23:48:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA18598 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 23:48:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.7.3/8.6.9) id XAA15011; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 23:46:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 23:46:19 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601090746.XAA15011@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au CC: davidg@root.com, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, james@else.net, current@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199601090156.MAA04004@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> (message from Michael Smith on Tue, 9 Jan 1996 12:26:28 +1030 (CST)) Subject: Re: Disposition of unknown PCI ethernet solved From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk * Ok, kill it 8) The fix would just be : If this works as intended (I don't have the HP Vectras to test it anymore), please close PR kern/860, was filed by yours truly. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jan 8 23:53:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA19061 for current-outgoing; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 23:53:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA19052 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 23:53:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.7.3/8.6.9) id XAA15054; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 23:53:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 23:53:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601090753.XAA15054@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: terry@lambert.org CC: phk@critter.tfs.com, paul@netcraft.co.uk, jkh@time.cdrom.com, jehamby@lightside.com, current@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: <199601082027.NAA10320@phaeton.artisoft.com> (message from Terry Lambert on Mon, 8 Jan 1996 13:27:28 -0700 (MST)) Subject: Re: Prognosis of 2.2-960107-SNAP From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * I loved putting this to a test once (I happened to know the majority of * the people in the room) when someone didn't understand the difference * between ontology and epistimology and stated as a "fact" that there * would be two people with the same birthday. There weren't. It wasn't * an impossibility for this to be the case, merely an improbability. That person's gotta be one of the dumbest guys around, how can the "guarantee" threshold not be at 366? Or am I totally misunderstanding the question? ;) Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 9 00:35:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA21761 for current-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 00:35:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from tfs.com (tfs.com [140.145.250.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA21754 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 00:35:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from critter.tfs.com by tfs.com (smail3.1.28.1) with SMTP id m0tZZWa-0003vpC; Tue, 9 Jan 96 00:35 PST Received: from localhost.tfs.com (localhost.tfs.com [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA00191; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 09:35:16 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: critter.tfs.com: Host localhost.tfs.com didn't use HELO protocol To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Syncing CTM and SNAPS? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 08 Jan 1996 22:41:21 PST." <27898.821169681@time.cdrom.com> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 1996 09:35:15 +0100 Message-ID: <189.821176515@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Hey Poul-H, > > You know those big `base deltas' you make for CTM? The ones that > serve as a jumping-off point for all the updates that follow? > > Well, all this talk of a 2.2 SNAP has me thinking.. Why not try to > sync the SNAP dates with whatever mechanism you have for generating > base deltas, so that on the day a SNAP is produced you also have a > base you can grab over FTP (e.g. don't even bother installing the > source distribution) and jump straight into -current. > > I don't intend to do 2.2 SNAPS very often, mind you, but it seems that > when I do, we should try to maximize their benefit to the hacker > community! Well, just grab the latest ####A delta and all that comes after it. There really isn't any benefit to synchronizing with the base deltas I think, it's just more hazzles for us. But good idea btw! -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 9 02:10:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA28153 for current-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 02:10:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA27921 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 02:07:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA14398; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 20:52:44 +1100 Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 20:52:44 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199601090952.UAA14398@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: davidg@Root.COM, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au Subject: Re: Disposition of unknown PCI ethernet solved Cc: current@freebsd.org, james@else.net Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >> Early ISA controllers only decode 10 bits worth. The convention for EISA >> is slot # * 0x1000. >Ok, kill it 8) The fix would just be : >! puthelp(" IO Port address (Hexadecimal, 0x1-0xffff)"); >! ret = editval(18,18,5,1,0x1,0xffff,&(dev->iobase),(dev->attrib & FLG_FIXIOBASE)); This is still missing support for ports 0 and 0x10000-0xffffffff :-). You have to uses the command line userconfig to set these. "Port" 0xffffffff is particularly important, since it means "autoconfigure" for at least lpt and matcd. The command line userconfig must also be used to change the unit and flags fields. The visual config doesn't support editing the unit and only allows editing a version of the flags that is neither intitialized from nor written to the device struct. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 9 02:28:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA29382 for current-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 02:28:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA29375 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 02:28:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.7.3/8.6.9) id CAA29424; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 02:28:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 02:28:28 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601091028.CAA29424@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: jkh@time.cdrom.com CC: phk@critter.tfs.com, joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <23576.821102480@time.cdrom.com> (jkh@time.cdrom.com) Subject: Re: Current is looking more stable these days..? From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk * Not necessary - we're mostly just trying to test the base bits here * with the snapshots.. Once we get further along in 2.2's development * cycle, perhaps we can talk about updating ports! :) Well, the ports tree is already operating under -current, so the tree itself should be ok. However, the massive number of missing packages may going to cause the user some confusion. Maybe you can add a warning at the top of the package installation screen? Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 9 03:04:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id DAA01625 for current-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 03:04:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA01467 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 02:58:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id LAA03511 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 11:33:57 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id LAA13684 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 11:33:56 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.3/8.6.9) id LAA27014 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 11:31:06 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199601091031.LAA27014@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: `make release' saga To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 11:31:05 +0100 (MET) X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Starting with a `make release' two days ago, it doesn't go through anymore: Jan 9 04:23:39 uriah /kernel: pid 24683: make: uid 0: exited on signal 11 Jan 9 06:07:48 uriah /kernel: pid 21179: make: uid 0: exited on signal 11 ...which finally leads to an unusable build state. Everything went fine until two days ago. I've rebuilt the kernel yesterday, no change. It only seems to happen with the newly-built `make' (and *only* for make, not for cc1 or other memory pigs), and only in the chrooted /usr/release tree. The `outside world' make doesn't seem to suffer from it. Does anybody have an idea? (The core dumps are not very useful, the innermost three stack frames are inside `end()'.) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 9 04:12:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA04803 for current-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 04:12:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from DATAPLEX.NET (SHARK.DATAPLEX.NET [199.183.109.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA04794 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 04:12:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from [199.183.109.242] by DATAPLEX.NET with SMTP (MailShare 1.0fc5); Tue, 9 Jan 1996 06:12:15 -0600 X-Sender: rkw@shark.dataplex.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 06:11:56 -0600 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" From: rkw@dataplex.net (Richard Wackerbarth) Subject: Re: Syncing CTM and SNAPS? Cc: current@freebsd.org, phk@freebsd.org Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >What do you think? If you make a SNAP based on any ctm source, then it is unnecessary to distribute the source distributions as a part of the SNAP. In fact, this idea could be extended to the regular release distributions. The only problem is that the CTM distribution is the total system source. I presume that there are those who do not have the disk space for that and want only a subset instead. The current CTM mechanism does not handle that situation. ---- Richard Wackerbarth rkw@dataplex.net From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 9 04:43:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA06519 for current-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 04:43:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA06514 Tue, 9 Jan 1996 04:43:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id EAA29762; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 04:42:57 -0800 To: rkw@dataplex.net (Richard Wackerbarth) cc: current@freebsd.org, phk@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Syncing CTM and SNAPS? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 09 Jan 1996 06:11:56 CST." Date: Tue, 09 Jan 1996 04:42:57 -0800 Message-ID: <29760.821191377@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > If you make a SNAP based on any ctm source, then it is unnecessary to > distribute the source distributions as a part of the SNAP. In fact, this > idea could be extended to the regular release distributions. Well, there's the `subdivision problem' you yourself mention. All the nice menus for picking-and-chosing in the src tree would go away. However, I see no reason why `ctm base' couldn't become an item in the src menu, to supercede the other src options. Now that I've got slightly better dialog menus, I'd planned to add items like `All' and `Clear' to that menu anyway. One more item labeled `CTM Base Delta' won't hurt! I'd assume that there could be a symlink on the ftp site (wherever that might be?) always pointing to the most recent base delta? Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 9 04:58:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id EAA07635 for current-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 04:58:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from Relay1.Austria.EU.net (relay1.Austria.EU.net [192.92.138.47]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA07619 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 04:58:14 -0800 (PST) From: marino.ladavac@aut.alcatel.at Received: from atusks01.aut.alcatel.at by Relay1.Austria.EU.net with SMTP id AA04242 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 9 Jan 1996 13:57:38 +0100 Received: from atuhc16 by atusks01.aut.alcatel.at (4.1/SMI-4.1/AAA-1.29/main) id AA22121; Tue, 9 Jan 96 13:56:43 +0100 Message-Id: <9601091256.AA22121@atuhc16.atusks01.aut.alcatel.at> Received: by atuhc16 (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA04638; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 13:56:42 +0100 Subject: Re: Prognosis of 2.2-960107-SNAP To: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) (Satoshi Asami) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 96 13:56:41 MET Cc: current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601090753.XAA15054@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU>; from "Satoshi Asami" at Jan 8, 96 11:53 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > * I loved putting this to a test once (I happened to know the majority of > * the people in the room) when someone didn't understand the difference > * between ontology and epistimology and stated as a "fact" that there > * would be two people with the same birthday. There weren't. It wasn't > * an impossibility for this to be the case, merely an improbability. > That person's gotta be one of the dumbest guys around, how can the > "guarantee" threshold not be at 366? Or am I totally misunderstanding > the question? ;) Becasue it's 367 :) /Alby > Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 9 05:12:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA08758 for current-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 05:12:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from tfs.com (tfs.com [140.145.250.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA08751 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 05:12:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from critter.tfs.com by tfs.com (smail3.1.28.1) with SMTP id m0tZdpW-0003voC; Tue, 9 Jan 96 05:11 PST Received: from localhost.tfs.com (localhost.tfs.com [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA00608; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 14:11:09 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: critter.tfs.com: Host localhost.tfs.com didn't use HELO protocol To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: rkw@dataplex.net (Richard Wackerbarth), current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Syncing CTM and SNAPS? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 09 Jan 1996 04:42:57 PST." <29760.821191377@time.cdrom.com> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 1996 14:11:08 +0100 Message-ID: <606.821193068@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > If you make a SNAP based on any ctm source, then it is unnecessary to > > distribute the source distributions as a part of the SNAP. In fact, this > > idea could be extended to the regular release distributions. > > Well, there's the `subdivision problem' you yourself mention. All the > nice menus for picking-and-chosing in the src tree would go away. > > However, I see no reason why `ctm base' couldn't become an item in the > src menu, to supercede the other src options. Now that I've got > slightly better dialog menus, I'd planned to add items like `All' and > `Clear' to that menu anyway. One more item labeled `CTM Base Delta' > won't hurt! I'd assume that there could be a symlink on the ftp > site (wherever that might be?) always pointing to the most recent > base delta? It wouldn't be too hard to make ctm understand that only files matching a certain regex is interesting. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 9 05:14:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA08850 for current-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 05:14:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from DATAPLEX.NET (SHARK.DATAPLEX.NET [199.183.109.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA08839 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 05:14:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from [199.183.109.242] by DATAPLEX.NET with SMTP (MailShare 1.0fc5); Tue, 9 Jan 1996 07:14:27 -0600 X-Sender: rkw@shark.dataplex.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 07:14:09 -0600 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" From: rkw@dataplex.net (Richard Wackerbarth) Subject: Re: Syncing CTM and SNAPS? Cc: current@freebsd.org, phk@freebsd.org Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >> If you make a SNAP based on any ctm source, then it is unnecessary to >> distribute the source distributions as a part of the SNAP. In fact, this >> idea could be extended to the regular release distributions. > >Well, there's the `subdivision problem' you yourself mention. I'm wondering if we should subdivide the CTM distributions. If we did that, I see no reason that the source distribution files could not be in CTM format rather than their current compressed form. >All the >nice menus for picking-and-chosing in the src tree would go away. See above. >One more item labeled `CTM Base Delta' >won't hurt! I'd assume that there could be a symlink on the ftp >site (wherever that might be?) always pointing to the most recent >base delta? You gain little for the user if you do not provide the mechanism to get both a base and the update thereafter. If he has to ftp to get some past updates, he might as well get the base at the same time. ---- Richard Wackerbarth rkw@dataplex.net From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 9 05:23:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA09193 for current-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 05:23:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from tfs.com (tfs.com [140.145.250.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA09188 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 05:23:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from critter.tfs.com by tfs.com (smail3.1.28.1) with SMTP id m0tZe10-0003vlC; Tue, 9 Jan 96 05:23 PST Received: from localhost.tfs.com (localhost.tfs.com [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA00635; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 14:23:02 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: critter.tfs.com: Host localhost.tfs.com didn't use HELO protocol To: rkw@dataplex.net (Richard Wackerbarth) cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Syncing CTM and SNAPS? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 09 Jan 1996 07:14:09 CST." Date: Tue, 09 Jan 1996 14:23:01 +0100 Message-ID: <633.821193781@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > >> If you make a SNAP based on any ctm source, then it is unnecessary to > >> distribute the source distributions as a part of the SNAP. In fact, this > >> idea could be extended to the regular release distributions. > > > >Well, there's the `subdivision problem' you yourself mention. > > I'm wondering if we should subdivide the CTM distributions. > If we did that, I see no reason that the source distribution files could > not be in CTM format rather than their current compressed form. The deltas are so small that it would be pointless I think. I have thought about this a bit, and I'm not sure that I like the idea too much. CTM is a "push" technology where as sup is a "pull" technology. I have this vision of too many people saying "Everyting and the kitchen-sink via CTM, and our sendmail sinking under the load... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 9 06:09:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA11589 for current-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 06:09:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from Sysiphos (Sysiphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA11584 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 06:09:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by Sysiphos id AA02718 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org); Tue, 9 Jan 1996 15:08:24 +0100 Message-Id: <199601091408.AA02718@Sysiphos> From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 15:08:23 +0100 In-Reply-To: -Vince- "Re: -current kernel problems" (Jan 8, 16:34) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(2) 7/9/95) To: -Vince- Subject: Re: -current kernel problems Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Jan 8, 16:34, -Vince- wrote: } Subject: Re: -current kernel problems } On Sun, 7 Jan 1996, Stefan Esser wrote: } > - Did you manage to install a more recent kernel ? } } Yep and it is working now... Fine! } > - Do you use any LKM's ? } > (A make world might fail to rebuild a LKM, and } > the incompatible LKM from an earlier build might } > be left alone in /lkm.) } } Hmmm, what are LKM's anyways because I had to delete everything } in /lkm and then rebuild the lkm directory from /usr/src/lkm since it } seemed like /lkm was all dated the same as the last make world. Well, you ALWAYS have to rebuild all LKMs, if any kernel data structures change! LKMs are Loadable Kernel Mdoules, i.e. parts of the kernel that can later be loaded into a running system to extend its functionality. I.e. if you don't have NFS compiled into your kernel, then NFS mounting some remote file system will first load the NFS LKM (and crash your system, if the two don't match!). } > - Can you boot single user (enter "-s" at the "Boot: " } > prompt, fsck the file systems and mount (r/o) your } > /var partition ? } } Yep, this works fine. There is a problem however when I started up: } starting local daemons: } /usr/sbin/ncrcontrol: no symbol "_ncrp" in "/kernel" } } Any ideas? Yes, and I thought I fixed this a few days ago. I remember typing the commit message ... Somebody made many driver symbols "static" (and this was a very good thing!), but seems to have missed the fact, that "nncr" is required for communication between ncrcontrol and the NCR driver (well, and that was not obvious :) Well, I just checked the CVS log, and I remember, that the commit was interrupted due to a loss of the TELNET connection. I'll try the commit later today, again. Now the line quality is just too bad (tens of seconds delay ... ) regards, STefan -- Stefan Esser, Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen Tel: +49 221 4706021 Universitaet zu Koeln, Weyertal 80, 50931 Koeln FAX: +49 221 4705160 ============================================================================== http://www.zpr.uni-koeln.de/~se From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 9 06:37:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA12893 for current-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 06:37:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (aspen.woc.atinc.com [198.138.38.205]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA12887 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 06:37:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA24280; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 09:36:16 -0500 Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 09:36:15 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" X-Sender: jmb@Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM To: paul@netcraft.co.uk cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , jehamby@lightside.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Prognosis of 2.2-960107-SNAP In-Reply-To: <199601081200.MAA00396@originat.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Mon, 8 Jan 1996, Paul Richards wrote: > Isn't there some mathematical puzzle that says something like, you > only need 27 people in a room for one of them to have a birthday the > same day as yours? Given the numbers we have, we've probably got > every day covered. nah. to get a duplicate of a given birthday (say, yours) requires from 2 to 366 (ignoring leap years) people in the room. assuming that birthdays are uniformly distributed, odds are (50/50) that you need 365/2 people in the room beside yourself. now, if you will accept ANY person's birthday (as opposed your a specific person, yours in the example above) then the number drops considerably, again assuming that birthdays are uniformly distributed thoughout the calendar year. sometimes it is easier to calculate the odds of an event NOT happening and then substract from 1.0 to get the odds of the event occurring. this is one of those cases. the odds of one other person not having the same birthday are 1 - 364/365 (which equals 1/365). for three people the odds are 1 - (364/365)(363/365) (which is messy when expressed as a sum instead of a product). the 50/50 point is 23 people in the room. caution: math follows (horrors!) here is a bc function to calculate the odds of ANY two people in a group having the same birthday define day(cnt) { auto prod, i; prod = 1; for ( i = 1; i < cnt; i++) { prod *= (365 -i)/365 } return (1 - prod) } the 50/50 odds point is 23 (day(23) = .507310) jmb Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG play go. ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life i am moving to a new job. PLEASE USE: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 9 07:22:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA15198 for current-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 07:22:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from skiddaw.elsevier.co.uk (skiddaw.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.60]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA15190 Tue, 9 Jan 1996 07:22:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by skiddaw.elsevier.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA08375; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 15:20:20 GMT Received: from cadair.elsevier.co.uk (actually host cadair) by snowdon with SMTP (PP); Tue, 9 Jan 1996 15:20:48 +0000 Received: (from dpr@localhost) by cadair.elsevier.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA17715; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 15:20:47 GMT From: Paul Richards Message-Id: <199601091520.PAA17715@cadair.elsevier.co.uk> Subject: Re: Prognosis of 2.2-960107-SNAP To: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG (Jonathan M. Bresler) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 15:20:46 +0000 (GMT) Cc: paul@netcraft.co.uk, jkh@time.cdrom.com, jehamby@lightside.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Jonathan M. Bresler" at Jan 9, 96 09:36:15 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In reply to Jonathan M. Bresler who said > > On Mon, 8 Jan 1996, Paul Richards wrote: > > > Isn't there some mathematical puzzle that says something like, you > > only need 27 people in a room for one of them to have a birthday the > > same day as yours? Given the numbers we have, we've probably got > > every day covered. Yeah, well, having now been prompted by all these responses I remember the "puzzle" properly, "How many people do you need to have in the same room for there to be a 50% chance that two of them have the same birthday" > here is a bc function to calculate the odds of ANY two people in > a group having the same birthday Some people have too much spare time on their hands :-) I seemed to miss a lot of the math classes when I was in college, I think they were in the morning or something :-) -- Paul Richards. Originative Solutions Ltd. Internet: paul@netcraft.co.uk, http://www.netcraft.co.uk Phone: 0370 462071 (Mobile), +44 1225 447500 (work) From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 9 09:03:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA21684 for current-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 09:03:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from grays.qualcomm.com (grays.qualcomm.com [129.46.7.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA21678 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 09:03:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from grays.qualcomm.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grays.qualcomm.com (8.7.3/8.7.2/1.4) with SMTP id KAA22859 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 10:03:02 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199601091703.KAA22859@grays.qualcomm.com> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Any idea how to ... Date: Tue, 09 Jan 1996 10:03:01 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk ... recover a partition that has ~10,000 duplicate INODEs that fsck dumps core on? This is on a 2.0R system, but I can run -current as well. Warner From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 9 09:21:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA22752 for current-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 09:21:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from apollo.COSC.GOV (root@apollo.COSC.GOV [198.94.103.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA22744 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 09:21:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from vince@localhost) by apollo.COSC.GOV (8.7.3/8.6.9) id JAA24697; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 09:21:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 09:21:30 -0800 (PST) From: -Vince- To: Stefan Esser cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -current kernel problems In-Reply-To: <199601091408.AA02718@Sysiphos> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 9 Jan 1996, Stefan Esser wrote: > On Jan 8, 16:34, -Vince- wrote: > } Subject: Re: -current kernel problems > } On Sun, 7 Jan 1996, Stefan Esser wrote: > > } > - Did you manage to install a more recent kernel ? > } > } Yep and it is working now... > > Fine! Thanks! > } > - Do you use any LKM's ? > } > (A make world might fail to rebuild a LKM, and > } > the incompatible LKM from an earlier build might > } > be left alone in /lkm.) > } > } Hmmm, what are LKM's anyways because I had to delete everything > } in /lkm and then rebuild the lkm directory from /usr/src/lkm since it > } seemed like /lkm was all dated the same as the last make world. > > Well, you ALWAYS have to rebuild all LKMs, if any kernel > data structures change! LKMs are Loadable Kernel Mdoules, > i.e. parts of the kernel that can later be loaded into > a running system to extend its functionality. Hmmm, do you have to delete all the LKM's first since it didn't work when I just rebuilt it without deleting it. > I.e. if you don't have NFS compiled into your kernel, then > NFS mounting some remote file system will first load the > NFS LKM (and crash your system, if the two don't match!). > > } > - Can you boot single user (enter "-s" at the "Boot: " > } > prompt, fsck the file systems and mount (r/o) your > } > /var partition ? > } > } Yep, this works fine. There is a problem however when I started up: > } starting local daemons: > } /usr/sbin/ncrcontrol: no symbol "_ncrp" in "/kernel" > } > } Any ideas? > > Yes, and I thought I fixed this a few days ago. > I remember typing the commit message ... > > Somebody made many driver symbols "static" (and this was a > very good thing!), but seems to have missed the fact, that > "nncr" is required for communication between ncrcontrol and > the NCR driver (well, and that was not obvious :) > > Well, I just checked the CVS log, and I remember, that the > commit was interrupted due to a loss of the TELNET connection. > > I'll try the commit later today, again. Now the line quality > is just too bad (tens of seconds delay ... ) Oh okay.... Thanks! Just wanted to let you know =) Cheers, -Vince- vince@COSC.GOV - GUS Mailing Lists Admin - http://www.COSC.GOV/~vince UC Berkeley AstroPhysics - Electrical Engineering (Honorary B.S.) Chabot Observatory & Science Center - Board of Advisors Running FreeBSD - Real UN*X for Free! Linda Wong/Vivian Chow/Hacken Lee/Danny Chan/Priscilla Chan Fan Club Mailing Lists Admin From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 9 10:45:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA27937 for current-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 10:45:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (aspen.woc.atinc.com [198.138.38.205]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA27915 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 10:45:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA24459; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 13:42:54 -0500 Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 13:42:54 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" X-Sender: jmb@Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM To: Paul Richards cc: paul@netcraft.co.uk, jkh@time.cdrom.com, jehamby@lightside.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Prognosis of 2.2-960107-SNAP In-Reply-To: <199601091520.PAA17715@cadair.elsevier.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Tue, 9 Jan 1996, Paul Richards wrote: > Yeah, well, having now been prompted by all these responses I remember > the "puzzle" properly, > > "How many people do you need to have in the same room for there to be a > 50% chance that two of them have the same birthday" > > > here is a bc function to calculate the odds of ANY two people in > > a group having the same birthday > > Some people have too much spare time on their hands :-) and a vicious prof for random processes. 1/3 of the class failed. that was not the expected value as computed by the ee department. a lot of very pissed off people were the result. that semester i graduated, so i dont know what the final result was. > I seemed to miss a lot of the math classes when I was in college, I > think they were in the morning or something :-) math at 8am. ee department didnt start teaching till 10am at the earliest and was much happier with 1pm. didnt fit well with working a full time day job. i took a lot of math electives ;) Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG play go. ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life i am moving to a new job. PLEASE USE: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 9 12:56:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA05741 for current-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 12:56:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from forgery.CS.Berkeley.EDU (forgery.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.33.75]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA05736 Tue, 9 Jan 1996 12:56:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by forgery.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA27085; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 12:56:25 -0800 Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 12:56:25 -0800 Message-Id: <199601092056.MAA27085@forgery.CS.Berkeley.EDU> To: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG CC: paul@netcraft.co.uk, jkh@time.cdrom.com, jehamby@lightside.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (jmb@FreeBSD.ORG) Subject: Re: Prognosis of 2.2-960107-SNAP From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk * nah. to get a duplicate of a given birthday (say, yours) requires * from 2 to 366 (ignoring leap years) people in the room. assuming that Sorry, this is not true. You can have a million people in the room but still nobody with the same birthday as yours! :) Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 9 12:59:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA06004 for current-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 12:59:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from forgery.CS.Berkeley.EDU (forgery.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.33.75]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA05993 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 12:59:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by forgery.CS.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA27091; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 12:59:15 -0800 Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 12:59:15 -0800 Message-Id: <199601092059.MAA27091@forgery.CS.Berkeley.EDU> To: marino.ladavac@aut.alcatel.at CC: current@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <9601091256.AA22121@atuhc16.atusks01.aut.alcatel.at> (marino.ladavac@aut.alcatel.at) Subject: Re: Prognosis of 2.2-960107-SNAP From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk * > That person's gotta be one of the dumbest guys around, how can the * > "guarantee" threshold not be at 366? Or am I totally misunderstanding * > the question? ;) * * Becasue it's 367 :) Well, that depends on the definition of "threshold". I was thinking in terms of "if it goes over this number, then...". Satoshi (no, I haven't forgotten the leap year, that's why I said 366 not 365 :) From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 9 13:09:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA06850 for current-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 13:09:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from omega.physik.fu-berlin.de (omega.physik.fu-berlin.de [130.133.3.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA06812 Tue, 9 Jan 1996 13:09:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from mordillo (oberon.physik.fu-berlin.de [130.133.3.126]) by omega.physik.fu-berlin.de (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA11429; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 22:09:15 +0100 (MET) Received: (from graichen@localhost) by mordillo (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA00286; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 19:48:35 +0100 From: Thomas Graichen Message-Id: <199601091848.TAA00286@mordillo> Subject: Re: Good News :) To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 19:48:34 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601082120.WAA16985@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at Jan 8, 96 10:20:26 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk hasn't J Wunsch said ? ... > > I've burnt my first CD today! > > Well, i sorta mis-burnt two of them, but the first step has been done. > > :-) > using FreeBSD ? t _______________________________________________________||___________________ __|| Perfection is reached, not when there is no __|| thomas graichen longer anything to add, but when there __|| freie universitaet berlin is no longer anything to take away __|| fachbereich physik __|| - Antoine de Saint-Exupery - __|| graichen@mail.physik.fu-berlin.de ___________________________||__________________graichen@FreeBSD.org_________ From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 9 13:25:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA08201 for current-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 13:25:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from miller.cs.uwm.edu (miller.cs.uwm.edu [129.89.9.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA08194 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 13:25:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from james@localhost) by miller.cs.uwm.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA05709 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 15:25:49 -0600 Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 15:25:49 -0600 From: Jim Lowe Message-Id: <199601092125.PAA05709@miller.cs.uwm.edu> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Overloaded PRINTER variable in bsd.doc.mk? Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk It seems that the PRINTER environment variable in bsd.doc.mk has several uses. One use is for the groff/eqn -T and the other is for lpr -P. One other use for this is the way I use the PRINTER environment variable, namely to set up my default printer. If I don't unsetenv PRINTER before a I do a make in the doc src directory, it tries to ``groff -Tlp'' everything -- which of course fails miserably. This problem has been around for a while. Would it be possible to change the name of this environment variable in the bsd.doc.mk file to something other than PRINTER. It could possibly use two types of default devices (one for groff and one for lpr). PRINTER is probably fine for lpr, but not for the default groff/eqn type (possibly PRINTER_TYPE would be a good choice?). -Jim From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 9 14:51:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA14544 for current-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 14:51:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA14537 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 14:51:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id XAA12283; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 23:51:09 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id XAA22550; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 23:51:08 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.3/8.6.9) id XAA01188; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 23:18:58 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199601092218.XAA01188@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Good News :) To: stesin@elvisti.kiev.ua (Andrew V. Stesin) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 23:18:57 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Reply-To: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199601090915.LAA06527@office.elvisti.kiev.ua> from "Andrew V. Stesin" at Jan 9, 96 11:15:34 am X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Andrew V. Stesin wrote: > > Hello Jo:rg, > > : I've burnt my first CD today! > Please, can't you provide more details -- first of all > which burner worked, was it single-user mode or normal operation, > what drivers needed tweaking? To all whom it may concern: please subscribe to freebsd-scsi for an ongoing discussion about this. I've already posted a summary of the technique today (though i don't have it handy here, the burner and that mail ar at work, and i'm at home now). -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 9 14:53:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA14775 for current-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 14:53:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA14761 Tue, 9 Jan 1996 14:52:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id XAA12307; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 23:51:24 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id XAA22556; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 23:51:24 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.3/8.6.9) id XAA01271; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 23:23:22 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199601092223.XAA01271@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Good News :) To: graichen@omega.physik.fu-berlin.de (Thomas Graichen) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 23:23:21 +0100 (MET) Cc: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Reply-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199601091848.TAA00286@mordillo> from "Thomas Graichen" at Jan 9, 96 07:48:34 pm X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk As Thomas Graichen wrote: > > > I've burnt my first CD today! > using FreeBSD ? Of course. It wouldn't have been worth mentioning it otherwise. :) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 9 15:11:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA16474 for current-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 15:11:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from vector.jhs.local (slip139-92-42-178.emea.ibm.net [139.92.42.178]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA16445 Tue, 9 Jan 1996 15:11:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vector.jhs.local (8.7.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA00481; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 10:55:11 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199601090955.KAA00481@vector.jhs.local> X-Authentication-Warning: vector.jhs.local: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: uhclem%nemesis@fw.ast.com (Frank Durda IV) cc: current@freebsd.org, gene@starkhome.cs.sunysb.edu Subject: Re: conf.c and USL copyright at top Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" Organization: Vector Systems Ltd. (Internet Unix & C Consultants) Address: Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany Phone: +49.89.268616 Fax: +49.89.2608126 (pending reconfig) Web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ Mailer: EXMH version 1.6.5 95 12 11 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 21 Dec 1995 16:45:00 +0700." Date: Tue, 09 Jan 1996 10:55:11 +0100 From: "Julian H. Stacey" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Reference: > From: uhclem%nemesis@fw.ast.com (Frank Durda IV) > Date: Thu, 21 Dec 95 16:45 WET > > Then they filed new copyrights that were accepted > (there aren't any checks worth mentioning on infringing copyrights). Huh ? I was taught (in England in ~'79) one didnt `file' a copyright but merely assert claim by placing at a minimum `Copyright Fred Smith 1996' on all copies. & the `checks' you mention ? only ones I can think of are lawyers of infringed sueing parties, not some neutral bureaucrat check mechanism. Are you sure you'r not confusing Copyrights with Patents or Trademarks or something else. ( One can file applications for Patents (& wait for grant or refusal), similar with trademarks I believe). > Circular queues and ring buffers were patented > in 1982! I guess nobody every used them before then - just ignore those > samples in Knuth that date back into the 70s. More likely the patent examiner had an off day, or was feeling lazy & passed the application too easily (*). (*) I don't know the USA system, but the system in the European Patent Office is biased towards granting rather than refusing applications; there's a points system, each examiner has to get so many per year, though they get extra fractional points for appeals hearings or some such, they get a whole easy point for a quick grant. Most patents I hear of seem Not to be in the public interest, but expect no changes, European goverments cream the profits from the EPO, & Euro. & USA patents get used to screw the worlds' citizenry, repress the growth of new small companies, & of course are looked on favourably by politicians with a penchant for trade disputes. References to shame the western world's patent offices with include: - Neem Tree (Ref Newsweek, late '95, USA PO) - White Mouse Gene (Ref Munich EPO 11or12/95) - Wheat Seed & Africa's Poor (BBC World Service, ~ 2 months ago) I know numerous patent examiners, attorneys & secretaries, & understand just how easily the patent you mention, might have been granted. Julian -- Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 9 15:12:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA16710 for current-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 15:12:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (aspen.woc.atinc.com [198.138.38.205]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA16655 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 15:12:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM (8.6.12/8.6.9) id SAA24715; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 18:11:14 -0500 Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 18:11:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" X-Sender: jmb@Aspen.Woc.Atinc.COM To: Satoshi Asami cc: paul@netcraft.co.uk, jkh@time.cdrom.com, jehamby@lightside.com, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Prognosis of 2.2-960107-SNAP In-Reply-To: <199601092056.MAA27085@forgery.CS.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 9 Jan 1996, Satoshi Asami wrote: > * nah. to get a duplicate of a given birthday (say, yours) requires > * from 2 to 366 (ignoring leap years) people in the room. assuming that > > Sorry, this is not true. You can have a million people in the room > but still nobody with the same birthday as yours! :) true, true. highly unlikely, but true. (both the million people in one room and the lack of a duplicate) Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG play go. ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life i am moving to a new job. PLEASE USE: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 9 15:26:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA17705 for current-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 15:26:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA17698 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 15:26:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id AAA15565; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 00:26:05 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id AAA23591; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 00:26:03 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.3/8.6.9) id AAA01782; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 00:12:01 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199601092312.AAA01782@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Any idea how to ... To: imp@qualcomm.com (Warner Losh) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 00:12:01 +0100 (MET) Cc: current@freebsd.org Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199601091703.KAA22859@grays.qualcomm.com> from "Warner Losh" at Jan 9, 96 10:03:01 am X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk As Warner Losh wrote: > > ... recover a partition that has ~10,000 duplicate INODEs that fsck > dumps core on? This is on a 2.0R system, but I can run -current as > well. fsdb? -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 9 16:20:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA20992 for current-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 16:20:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from apollo.COSC.GOV (root@apollo.COSC.GOV [198.94.103.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA20958 Tue, 9 Jan 1996 16:20:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from vince@localhost) by apollo.COSC.GOV (8.7.3/8.6.9) id QAA00343; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 16:19:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 16:19:58 -0800 (PST) From: -Vince- To: se@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: -current problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Hi Stefan, Just tried the new kernel and this time it did: starting local daemons:. /usr/sbin/ncrcontrol: control structure not allocated (not found in autoconfig?) Cheers, -Vince- vince@COSC.GOV - GUS Mailing Lists Admin - http://www.COSC.GOV/~vince UC Berkeley AstroPhysics - Electrical Engineering (Honorary B.S.) Chabot Observatory & Science Center - Board of Advisors Running FreeBSD - Real UN*X for Free! Linda Wong/Vivian Chow/Hacken Lee/Danny Chan/Priscilla Chan Fan Club Mailing Lists Admin From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 9 18:51:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA00220 for current-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 18:51:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA00215 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 18:51:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA13656 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 19:48:30 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199601100248.TAA13656@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: dead list test To: current@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 19:48:29 -0700 (MST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk 12 hours, no new stuff. From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 9 20:03:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA03718 for current-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 20:03:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from sed.cs.fsu.edu (sed.cs.fsu.edu [128.186.121.157]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA03712 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 20:03:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by sed.cs.fsu.edu (8.6.9/56) id XAA10376; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 23:03:34 -0500 From: Gang-Ryung Uh Message-Id: <199601100403.XAA10376@sed.cs.fsu.edu> Subject: make world To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 23:03:34 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am trying to build the FreeBSD-current (which I downloaded 7 days ago). But in the early stage of "make world", I got an following fatal error: ------- cc -O -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/.. -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/../i386 -fpic -DRTLD -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/../i386/md.c ld -o ld.so -Bshareable -Bsymbolic -assert nosymbolic mdprologue.o rtld.o malloc.o shlib.o etc.o md.o -lc_pic -lgcc_pic gzip -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/ld/rtld/rtld.1 > rtld.1.gz install -c -s -o bin -g bin -m 555 ld /usr/bin ===> ldconfig install -c -s -o bin -g bin -m 555 ldconfig /sbin install -c -o bin -g bin -m 444 ldconfig.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8 ===> ldd install -c -s -o bin -g bin -m 555 ldd /usr/bin install -c -o bin -g bin -m 444 ldd.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 ===> rtld install -c -s -o bin -g bin -m 555 -fschg ld.so /usr/libexec install -c -o bin -g bin -m 444 rtld.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 Memory fault *** Error code 139 Stop. *** Error code 1 -------- I am just curious in what situation the "Memory fault" message can be generated. Would you tell me how to fix that problem? Also, in order to restore to the original system, what I have to do? Thanks very much. Regards, Gang-Ryung Uh (uh@cs.fsu.edu) From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 9 20:53:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA06160 for current-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 20:53:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA06155 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 20:53:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA08094 for current@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 15:23:47 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199601100453.PAA08094@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Bootstrapping -current from 2.1, observations To: current@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 15:23:46 +1030 (CST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hardware problems aside; the only difficulty I encountered was : install's new -C option is used before install is build and, er, installed. Due to the aforementioned hardware problems, however it's likely that the updated rpcgen was built and installed, so I suspect that it's still an issue here as well (unless someone can refute that). I had a slightly more recently supped build expire with : ===> usr.sbin/xntpd/parse cc -O -m486 -pipe -I/remote1/2.2.0-CURRENT/src/usr.sbin/xntpd/parse/../include -DCLOCK_SCHMID -DCLOCK_DCF7000 -DCLOCK_MEINBERG -DCLOCK_RAWDCF -DCLOCK_TRIMSV6 -DSYS_FREEBSD -DSYS_44BSD -DREFCLOCK -DPARSE -DMD5 -DLOCAL_CLOCK -DPST -DWWVB -DAS2201 -DGOES -DGPSTM -DOMEGA -DLEITCH -DTRAK -DACTS -DATOM -DDATUM -DHEATH -DMSFEES -DMX4200 -DNMEA -DBOEDER -c /remote1/2.2.0-CURRENT/src/usr.sbin/xntpd/parse/parse.c -o parse.o /remote1/2.2.0-CURRENT/src/usr.sbin/xntpd/parse/parse.c: In function `parse_to_unixtime': /remote1/2.2.0-CURRENT/src/usr.sbin/xntpd/parse/parse.c:654: called object is not a function /remote1/2.2.0-CURRENT/src/usr.sbin/xntpd/parse/parse.c:662: called object is not a function ...but this is not necessarily a problem. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@atrad.adelaide.edu.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control (ph/fax) +61-8-267-3039 [[ ]] "Who does BSD?" "We do Chucky, we do." [[ From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 9 22:52:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA15069 for current-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 22:52:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA15030 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 22:52:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id HAA02025; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 07:52:27 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id HAA27228; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 07:52:26 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.3/8.6.9) id HAA05307; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 07:49:07 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199601100649.HAA05307@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: make world To: uh@sed.cs.fsu.edu (Gang-Ryung Uh) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 07:49:07 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199601100403.XAA10376@sed.cs.fsu.edu> from "Gang-Ryung Uh" at Jan 9, 96 11:03:34 pm X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Gang-Ryung Uh wrote: > > I am trying to build the FreeBSD-current (which I downloaded 7 days ago). > But in the early stage of "make world", I got an following fatal error: > ===> rtld > install -c -s -o bin -g bin -m 555 -fschg ld.so /usr/libexec > install -c -o bin -g bin -m 444 rtld.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 > Memory fault > *** Error code 139 > I am just curious in what situation the "Memory fault" message > can be generated. Would you tell me how to fix that problem? This seems to be the same problem i'm experiencing when trying to ``make release'', except i'm only getting it in the chroot'ed tree, with the make binary running from there. At least for me, it's `make' that segfaults here. And it does _not_ appear to be kernel- related! Has anybody been changing something in the area of malloc()? -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 9 23:27:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA17276 for current-outgoing; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 23:27:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA17266 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 23:26:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA00890; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 18:22:51 +1100 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 18:22:51 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199601100722.SAA00890@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: current@freebsd.org, imp@qualcomm.com Subject: Re: Any idea how to ... Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >... recover a partition that has ~10,000 duplicate INODEs that fsck >dumps core on? This is on a 2.0R system, but I can run -current as >well. First fix fsck. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 10 00:25:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA21387 for current-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 00:25:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from marble.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp (marble.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp [133.6.57.68]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA21381 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 00:25:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from marble.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by marble.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp (8.7.1+2.6Wbeta4/3.3W9) with ESMTP id RAA02578 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 17:25:09 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199601100825.RAA02578@marble.eps.nagoya-u.ac.jp> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: MAXBSIZE X-Mailer: Mew beta version 0.96 on Emacs 19.28.1, Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 17:25:08 +0900 From: KATO Takenori Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Can FreeBSD-current use a msdos filesystem whose cluster size > MAXBSIZE? NetBSD can't do this and terminated by panic at desired_size = roundup(size, CLBYTES); if (desired_size > MAXBSIZE) panic("allocbuf: buffer larger than MAXBSIZE requested"); in the function allocbuf. On the contrary, FreeBSD's allocbuf doesn't check size. ---- KATO Takenori Dept. Earth Planet. Sci., Nagoya Univ., Nagoya 464-01 Voice: +81-52-789-2529 Fax: +81-52-789-3033 From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 10 06:51:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA08879 for current-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 06:51:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from dw3f.ess.harris.com (dw3f.ess.harris.com [130.41.9.242]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA08874 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 06:51:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from suw2k.hisd.harris.com (borg [158.147.23.50]) by dw3f.ess.harris.com (8.6.9/mdb(941103)) with SMTP id JAA00727 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 09:51:32 -0500 Received: by suw2k.hisd.harris.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01356; Wed, 10 Jan 96 09:48:28 EST Date: Wed, 10 Jan 96 09:48:28 EST From: jleppek@suw2k.hisd.harris.com (James Leppek) Message-Id: <9601101448.AA01356@suw2k.hisd.harris.com> To: freebsd-current@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: general protection faults in current Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I seem to be suffering from trap 9 general protection faults lately. I have never gotten these before can anyone provide some insight. debug didn't help me much, a where showed something like 1 boot 2 fatal_trap 3 trap freebsd-current sup'd every other day 486/dx4 32Meg IDE disks Xfree is not running, nothing fancy going on :-) thanks Jim Leppek From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 10 07:01:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA09321 for current-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 07:01:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from Sysiphos (Sysiphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA09313 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 07:01:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by Sysiphos id AA05196 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org); Wed, 10 Jan 1996 16:01:11 +0100 Message-Id: <199601101501.AA05196@Sysiphos> From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 16:01:10 +0100 In-Reply-To: -Vince- "-current problem" (Jan 9, 16:19) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(2) 7/9/95) To: -Vince- Subject: Re: -current problem Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Jan 9, 16:19, -Vince- wrote: } Subject: -current problem } Hi Stefan, } } Just tried the new kernel and this time it did: } } starting local daemons:. } /usr/sbin/ncrcontrol: control structure not allocated (not found in autoconfig?) A few data structures have been "cleaned up" by soimebody, who did not know that their sole purpose is providing a means for ncrcontrol to access the controller parameters ... I'll put them back! Thanks for reporting this ... Regards, STefan -- Stefan Esser, Zentrum fuer Paralleles Rechnen Tel: +49 221 4706021 Universitaet zu Koeln, Weyertal 80, 50931 Koeln FAX: +49 221 4705160 ============================================================================== http://www.zpr.uni-koeln.de/~se From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 10 08:24:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA13858 for current-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 08:24:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from fieber-john.campusview.indiana.edu (Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA13853 Wed, 10 Jan 1996 08:24:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jfieber@localhost) by fieber-john.campusview.indiana.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA05381; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 11:24:06 -0500 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 11:24:05 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber X-Sender: jfieber@fieber-john.campusview.indiana.edu To: Jim Lowe cc: current@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Overloaded PRINTER variable in bsd.doc.mk? In-Reply-To: <199601092125.PAA05709@miller.cs.uwm.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 9 Jan 1996, Jim Lowe wrote: > It seems that the PRINTER environment variable in bsd.doc.mk has > several uses. One use is for the groff/eqn -T and the other Yes, another name needs to be used. For bsd.sgml.mk I used FORMATS since not all output formats are intended to be printed. I had planed to change PRINTER to FORMATS in the bsd.doc.mk as well, but I'm certainly willing to entertain other possibilties. -john == jfieber@indiana.edu =========================================== == http://fieber-john.campusview.indiana.edu/~jfieber ============ From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 10 08:32:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA14304 for current-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 08:32:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from delphos (delphos.la.asu.edu [129.219.47.15]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA14294 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 08:32:32 -0800 (PST) From: rcw@delphos.la.asu.edu Received: by delphos (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA03845; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 09:34:26 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 09:34:26 -0700 Message-Id: <9601101634.AA03845@delphos> To: current@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: current-digest V1 #198 X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk unsubscribe owner-current-digest end From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 10 14:01:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA05368 for current-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 14:01:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from tfd.com (tfd.com [206.205.61.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA05354 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 14:01:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from sneezy.tfd.com by tfd.com with SMTP id AA00345 (5.65b/IDA-1.4.3 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org); Wed, 10 Jan 96 17:00:40 -0500 Received: by sneezy id AA20494 (5.65b/IDA-1.4.3 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org); Wed, 10 Jan 96 17:04:30 -0500 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 96 17:04:30 -0500 From: Kent Hauser Message-Id: <9601102204.AA20494@sneezy> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: problem with `sup' server? Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I've been trying to `sup' the files for -current using `standard-supfile'. My local host is a Sun-3/60, SunOS 4.1.1, with van-jacobson's compressed slip package (from lbl.berleley.edu a couple of years ago...). Every time the transfer of `src-etc-current' aborts after entry SUP Receiving file release/scripts/compat1x-install.sh SUP: Read error on network: Connection reset by peer SUP: Premature EOF on network input SUP: Network write timed out SUP: Error receiving file from file server SUP: Upgrade of src-etc-current aborted at Jan 10 16:51:02 1996 SUP: Network write timed out SUP: Aborted I tried deleting the `release/scripts' directory, but it just gets remade & then the transfer fails. The transfer is also unsuccessful for `/sys'. Other distributions transfer correctly. Does anyone recognize this? kent From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 10 14:42:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA08509 for current-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 14:42:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA08494 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 14:42:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id XAA15954 ; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 23:42:03 +0100 Received: from (uucp@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with UUCP id XAA01249 ; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 23:41:56 +0100 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.7.3/keltia-uucp-2.7) id XAA03442; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 23:34:29 +0100 (MET) From: Ollivier Robert Message-Id: <199601102234.XAA03442@keltia.freenix.fr> Subject: Re: make world To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 23:34:29 +0100 (MET) Cc: uh@sed.cs.fsu.edu, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199601100649.HAA05307@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at Jan 10, 96 07:49:07 am X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT ctm#1530 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It seems that J Wunsch said: > This seems to be the same problem i'm experiencing when trying to > ``make release'', except i'm only getting it in the chroot'ed tree, > with the make binary running from there. At least for me, it's `make' > that segfaults here. And it does _not_ appear to be kernel- related! > Has anybody been changing something in the area of malloc()? I remember a similar problem when I was soing a "chroot" followed by a "pwd" in Perl... Maybe pwd/getcwd/getwd has a problem with chrooted trees ? -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.frmug.fr.net FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #13: Sat Jan 6 20:08:04 MET 1996 From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 10 15:36:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA12818 for current-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 15:36:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12811 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 15:36:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id AAA16606 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 00:36:40 +0100 Received: from (uucp@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with UUCP id AAA01461 for current@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 00:36:40 +0100 Received: (uucp@localhost) by fasterix.frmug.fr.net (8.6.11/fasterix-941011) with UUCP id XAA26237 for current@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 23:34:41 +0100 Received: (from regnauld@localhost) by tetard.frmug.fr.net (8.7.3/8.7.3/tetard-uucp-2.7) id NAA03381; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 13:00:14 +0100 (MET) From: Philippe Regnauld Message-Id: <199601101200.NAA03381@tetard.frmug.fr.net> Subject: Watch (using snoop) command does not take CTRL-C anymore To: to@tetard.frmug.fr.net, current@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 13:00:14 +0100 (MET) X-rene: Tu dois pas les avoir perdues, normalement. X-wing-fighter: et puis X-men, X-open, X-ta-mere... X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk It seems that since last time I moved up to current (mid-december), it is not possible to exit the 'watch' command with CTRL-C -- you are forced to suspend it and kill it manually... -- Phil -- - [ regnauld@tetard.frmug.fr.net / +48.8N+2.3E / +33 1 4507 9391 / Sol 3 ] - - [ regnauld@freenix.fr / FreeBSD 2.x / ] - "Le schtroumpf est à l'homme ce que le bleu est au billard" - F.Berjon From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 10 15:51:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA13495 for current-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 15:51:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA13488 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 15:51:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id AAA08659; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 00:51:20 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id AAA07500; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 00:51:19 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.3/8.6.9) id AAA07874; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 00:22:31 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199601102322.AAA07874@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: current-digest V1 #198 To: rcw@delphos.la.asu.edu Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 00:22:30 +0100 (MET) Cc: current@freefall.freebsd.org Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <9601101634.AA03845@delphos> from "rcw@delphos.la.asu.edu" at Jan 10, 96 09:34:26 am X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk As rcw@delphos.la.asu.edu wrote: > > unsubscribe owner-current-digest > end You cannot unsubscribe `owner-current-digest', sorry. Reason: permission denied. :) From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 10 15:52:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA13639 for current-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 15:52:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA13628 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 15:52:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id AAA08668 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 00:51:23 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id AAA07507 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 00:51:23 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.3/8.6.9) id AAA08015 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 00:32:38 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199601102332.AAA08015@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: make world To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 00:32:38 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199601102234.XAA03442@keltia.freenix.fr> from "Ollivier Robert" at Jan 10, 96 11:34:29 pm X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Ollivier Robert wrote: > > I remember a similar problem when I was soing a "chroot" followed by a > "pwd" in Perl... Maybe pwd/getcwd/getwd has a problem with chrooted trees ? My problem started about 4 days ago. I've done almost a dozen of ``make release''s recently, but the last two of them were totally hosed due to make aborting while building some lib, due to a sigsegv. Since my kernel hasn't changed between the `make' runs that were okay and those that fell over, i suspect something in userland, perhaps the memory allocator. The `make' that's in the regular tree doesn't have the problem, unlike for the guy who started a ``make world''. (Remember, ``make release'' does a full CVS checkout, so the chrooted tree is the lates and greatest bits.) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 10 18:36:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA22743 for current-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 18:36:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA22736 Wed, 10 Jan 1996 18:36:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA01847; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 18:36:23 -0800 Message-Id: <199601110236.SAA01847@austin.polstra.com> To: uh@NU.cs.fsu.edu Cc: j@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, nate@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make world Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 18:36:22 -0800 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk J"org wrote: > As Gang-Ryung Uh wrote: > > > > I am trying to build the FreeBSD-current (which I downloaded 7 days ago). > > But in the early stage of "make world", I got an following fatal error: > > > ===> rtld > > install -c -s -o bin -g bin -m 555 -fschg ld.so /usr/libexec > > install -c -o bin -g bin -m 444 rtld.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 > > Memory fault > > *** Error code 139 > > > I am just curious in what situation the "Memory fault" message > > can be generated. Would you tell me how to fix that problem? > > This seems to be the same problem i'm experiencing when trying to > ``make release'', except i'm only getting it in the chroot'ed tree, > with the make binary running from there. At least for me, it's `make' > that segfaults here. And it does _not_ appear to be kernel- related! > Has anybody been changing something in the area of malloc()? To me, this looks very much like something that might happen if you had just trashed your dynamic linker. Hey! What do you know?! He had _just_ installed a new dynamic linker. What a coincidence! I don't like the way ld.so gets installed in the current Makefile. There are many hazards lurking there. I took a quick look at the sources of "install". It looks like, with the options above, that install does this: * unlinks the old version of /usr/libexec/ld.so * copies the new version into /usr/libexec/ld.so * runs /usr/bin/strip (itself dynamically-linked) on /usr/libexec/ld.so Now, looking at the sources to "strip", it seems that it opens its file read/write, and modifies it in place. I've installed new versions of "ld.so" many times, and I can tell you that modifying it in place like that causes very strange things to happen. Such as, random core dumps from programs that normally work fine. Then, as you run them repeatedly, the core dumps gradually become less frequent. There's something strange going on, probably related to the VM system. Here's the safest way I've found to install a new version of ld.so on a running system (taken from a shell script that I use): test -f /usr/libexec/ld.so- && chflags noschg /usr/libexec/ld.so- chflags noschg /usr/libexec/ld.so install -c -s -o bin -g bin -m 555 ld.so /usr/libexec/ld.so+ && ln -f /usr/libexec/ld.so /usr/libexec/ld.so- && mv /usr/libexec/ld.so+ /usr/libexec/ld.so && chflags schg /usr/libexec/ld.so This make sure that the system is never, even for a moment, without an installed ld.so. It also takes care not to write over the old version, which is still mmapped and possibly in use by running processes. I'm going to modify the Makefile for ld.so to do something like this, right away. -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth From owner-freebsd-current Wed Jan 10 23:57:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA08511 for current-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 23:57:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA08488 Wed, 10 Jan 1996 23:57:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA32761; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 18:51:10 +1100 Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 18:51:10 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199601110751.SAA32761@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: jdp@polstra.com, uh@NU.cs.fsu.edu Subject: Re: make world Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, j@uriah.heep.sax.de, nate@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> > ... >> > ===> rtld >> > install -c -s -o bin -g bin -m 555 -fschg ld.so /usr/libexec >> > install -c -o bin -g bin -m 444 rtld.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1 >> > Memory fault >> > *** Error code 139 >> > ... >To me, this looks very much like something that might happen if you had >just trashed your dynamic linker. Hey! What do you know?! He had _just_ >installed a new dynamic linker. What a coincidence! >I don't like the way ld.so gets installed in the current Makefile. >There are many hazards lurking there. >I took a quick look at the sources of "install". It looks like, with the >options above, that install does this: > * unlinks the old version of /usr/libexec/ld.so > * copies the new version into /usr/libexec/ld.so > * runs /usr/bin/strip (itself dynamically-linked) on /usr/libexec/ld.so >Now, looking at the sources to "strip", it seems that it opens its file >read/write, and modifies it in place. This shouldn't matter if ld.so is not run while it is being installed, and the strip step is probably safe at all times since it doesn't move the text or data blocks. >... >Here's the safest way I've found to install a new version of ld.so on a >running system (taken from a shell script that I use): > test -f /usr/libexec/ld.so- && chflags noschg /usr/libexec/ld.so- > chflags noschg /usr/libexec/ld.so > install -c -s -o bin -g bin -m 555 ld.so /usr/libexec/ld.so+ && > ln -f /usr/libexec/ld.so /usr/libexec/ld.so- && > mv /usr/libexec/ld.so+ /usr/libexec/ld.so && > chflags schg /usr/libexec/ld.so >This make sure that the system is never, even for a moment, without an >installed ld.so. It also takes care not to write over the old version, >which is still mmapped and possibly in use by running processes. >I'm going to modify the Makefile for ld.so to do something like this, >right away. Erm, in -current, just use `install -C'. It does everything (except the fschg :-() atomically as a side effect of avoiding clobbering the file metadata if the file data hasn't changed. I want atomic installs to be the usual case and prepared a bit for this. The current implementation does too much copying, but with a better implementation the only cost for an ordinary install should be having to have enough disk space for the temporary copy on the same file system as the target. This disadvantage is usually more than offset by the advantage of not running out of disk space in the middle of an install. (I've run out installing libc.so several times. Unlinking the target before copying usually doesn't help in this case because libc.so is in use.) Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 11 00:53:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA11490 for current-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 00:53:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA11481 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 00:53:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id JAA24549 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 09:52:40 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id JAA12008 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 09:52:40 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.3/8.6.9) id JAA10671 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 09:37:37 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199601110837.JAA10671@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: make world To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 09:37:37 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199601110236.SAA01847@austin.polstra.com> from "John Polstra" at Jan 10, 96 06:36:22 pm X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As John Polstra wrote: > > J"org wrote: > > > This seems to be the same problem i'm experiencing when trying to > > ``make release'', except i'm only getting it in the chroot'ed tree, > > with the make binary running from there. At least for me, it's `make' > To me, this looks very much like something that might happen if you had > just trashed your dynamic linker. Hey! What do you know?! He had _just_ > installed a new dynamic linker. What a coincidence! Hmm, so this seems to explain one problem. But now, my problem looks different: As part of ``make release'', the world is being rebuilt: ... -------------------------------------------------------------- Rebuilding /usr/lib -------------------------------------------------------------- ... ===> csu/i386 cc -O -pipe -DLIBC_SCCS -fno-omit-frame-pointer -c -DCRT0 -DDYNAMIC /usr/src/lib/csu/i386/crt0.c -o crt0.o ld -x -r crt0.o mv a.out crt0.o ... ===> libc creating accept.o creating access.o creating acct.o creating adjtime.o creating bind.o ... Everything works fine, but suddenly (and at least two or three times i've seen it happen, it's always been when building libc): -I/usr/src/lib/libc/locale -DYP -c /usr/src/lib/libc/db/btree/bt_put.c -o bt_put.po cc -p -O -pipe -DLIBC_RCS -DSYSLIBC_RCS -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/usr/src/lib/libc/locale -DYP -c /usr/src/lib/libc/db/btree/bt_search.c -o bt_search.po Memory fault - core dumped ===> csu/i386 ... The parent `make' doesn't even seem to notice that its child died, it doesn't announce any sort of an error for it. It continues with the next directory as if nothing happened, and the problem only becomes very apparent when it's time to install the newly-built libs later. ld.so hasn't been rebuilt yet at this stage. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 11 08:16:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA01292 for current-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 08:16:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from utrhcs.cs.utwente.nl (utrhcs.cs.utwente.nl [130.89.10.247]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA01285 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 08:16:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from myrtilos.cs.utwente.nl by utrhcs.cs.utwente.nl (SMI-8.6/csrelayMX-SVR4_1.2/RBINF) id RAA20105; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 17:13:44 +0100 Received: from curie.cs.utwente.nl by myrtilos.cs.utwente.nl (SMI-8.6/csrelay-Sol1.4/RB) id RAA07386; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 17:13:42 +0100 Received: from localhost by curie.cs.utwente.nl (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA27395; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 17:13:39 +0100 To: davidg@root.com, "Garrett A. Wollman" cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: m_copydata panic & tcp_extensions: the full analysis In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Jan 1996 18:44:37 +0100." <19542.820777477@curie.cs.utwente.nl> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 17:13:37 +0100 Message-ID: <27394.821376817@curie.cs.utwente.nl> From: Andras Olah Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 04 Jan 1996 18:44:37 +0100, Andras Olah wrote: > and some segments are lost. For the people interested in the > anatomy of this bug, I'll describe the problem in full details. As I promised earlier, here's a detailed analysis of the (already exterminated) m_copydata panics. Since I've never had these panics myself, there's a slight chance that I'm wrong but it's not likely. I'm sending it to current as well because so many people were bitten by this bug. Please accept my apologies for the inconvenience. Andras Assume that host A sends data to host B, they both use T/TCP and they've communicated successfully before, i.e. both of them have the cached information about the other used by T/TCP to speed up opens. host A host B 1. ->--> 2. <--<- 3. ->--X (lost) 4. ->--X (lost) 5. rexmit timer goes off 6. ->--> panic in tcp_output() while sending the ACK When B receives seg 1., it immediately enters the ESTABLISHED state because of the accelerated open (TAO) succeeds. The TF_NEEDSYN flag is set in the tcpcb. Seg. 2 acknowledges A's SYN, so A also enters the ESTABLISHED state. It sends back an ACK (seg. 3) of the SYN, the connect() returns to the appl. which then sends some data (seg. 4) on the socket. So the application doesn't have to use implicit connect to exercise this bug. Seg. 3 and 4 are both lost. At 5. the retransmission timer of B goes off because it hasn't seen an ACK of its SYN yet. The effect of the timeout is that snd_nxt is set to snd_una which is equal to the initial sequence number iss. Then tcp_output() is called to retransmit the SYN. But in practice nothing is sent at this stage. The change I made back in November was based on the observation that setting TF_ACKNOW at a rexmit timeout is redundant because tcp_output() tests for snd_nxt being less than snd_max to see if a retransmission is taking place. The problem is that this test is only taking place if the segment to be sent has data (len > 0): /* * Sender silly window avoidance. If connection is idle * and can send all data, a maximum segment, * at least a maximum default-size segment do it, * or are forced, do it; otherwise don't bother. * If peer's buffer is tiny, then send * when window is at least half open. * If retransmitting (possibly after persist timer forced us * to send into a small window), then must resend. */ if (len) { if (len == tp->t_maxseg) goto send; if ((idle || tp->t_flags & TF_NODELAY) && (tp->t_flags & TF_NOPUSH) == 0 && len + off >= so->so_snd.sb_cc) goto send; if (tp->t_force) goto send; if (len >= tp->max_sndwnd / 2 && tp->max_sndwnd > 0) goto send; if (SEQ_LT(tp->snd_nxt, tp->snd_max)) goto send; } Furthermore if TF_NEEDSYN is set, then the presence of the SYN flag is not sufficient reson for sending a segment, anticipating some data from the application soon or the expiration of the delack timer. /* * Send if we owe peer an ACK. */ if (tp->t_flags & TF_ACKNOW) goto send; if ((flags & TH_RST) || ((flags & TH_SYN) && (tp->t_flags & TF_NEEDSYN) == 0)) goto send; Therefore, snd_nxt is equal to snd_una == iss when seg. 6 is received. Seg. 6 acks the SYN of B, but the FIN is out of order because the data in between was lost. The ack in seg. 6 is processed by the lines below: /* * If we reach this point, ACK is not a duplicate, * i.e., it ACKs something we sent. */ if (tp->t_flags & TF_NEEDSYN) { /* * T/TCP: Connection was half-synchronized, and our * SYN has been ACK'd (so connection is now fully * synchronized). Go to non-starred state and * increment snd_una for ACK of SYN. */ tp->t_flags &= ~TF_NEEDSYN; tp->snd_una++; } Then, some lines later, the rest of the ACK processing is skipped. /* * If no data (only SYN) was ACK'd, * skip rest of ACK processing. */ if (acked == 0) goto step6; The net effect of these is that snd_una == iss+1, but snd_nxt is still equal to iss. When tcp_output() is called at the end of tcp_input(), it calculates an offset of -1 to the socket buffer which is the direct reason of the panic. Adding back the ACKNOW flag solved the issue, because then tcp_output() in step 5. resends the SYN and sets snd_nxt to iss+1 (the seq. number after the SYN). From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 11 13:24:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA21289 for current-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 13:24:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA21263 Thu, 11 Jan 1996 13:24:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA13258; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 13:23:36 -0800 Message-Id: <199601112123.NAA13258@austin.polstra.com> To: Bruce Evans cc: uh@NU.cs.fsu.edu, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, j@uriah.heep.sax.de, nate@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: make world In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 11 Jan 1996 18:51:10 +1100." <199601110751.SAA32761@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 13:23:35 -0800 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Bruce wrote: > >I took a quick look at the sources of "install". It looks like, with the > >options above, that install does this: > > > * unlinks the old version of /usr/libexec/ld.so > > * copies the new version into /usr/libexec/ld.so > > * runs /usr/bin/strip (itself dynamically-linked) on /usr/libexec/ld.so > > >Now, looking at the sources to "strip", it seems that it opens its file > >read/write, and modifies it in place. > > This shouldn't matter if ld.so is not run while it is being installed, But since "strip" is dynamically-linked, "ld.so" is _guaranteed_ to be running during the strip. > and the strip step is probably safe at all times since it doesn't > move the text or data blocks. I agree, in principle. But I have personally seen anomalies a couple of times on my system, right after replacing ld.so or a shared library, and they have looked very much like the problem that the original poster reported. I suspect that there are bugs in the VM system that can cause problems if you alter a file that is currently mapped and being executed. > >Here's the safest way I've found to install a new version of ld.so on a > >running system (taken from a shell script that I use): > >... > >I'm going to modify the Makefile for ld.so to do something like this, > >right away. Which I did. A few hours later, phk repaired a problem in it :-(. Well, it took him 2 tries, so I guess I don't feel too bad. > Erm, in -current, just use `install -C'. It does everything (except the > fschg :-() atomically as a side effect of avoiding clobbering the file > metadata if the file data hasn't changed. You're right, that looks like it should work fine. (I even ran a ktrace on it, just to be sure.) What is your advice? Do you think I should go ahead and change the Makefile to use "install -C" now? Would this lead to another hiccup similar to what happened when the new "rpcgen" came along? I _think_ that "install" is rebuilt and installed _before_ "ld.so", when you do a "make world". Is that right? If so, then changing to "install -C" should cause no problems for anybody. -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 11 14:12:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA27900 for current-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 14:12:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from werple.net.au (werple.mira.net.au [203.9.190.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA27850 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 14:12:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from cimaxp1.UUCP (Ucimlogi@localhost) by werple.net.au (8.7/8.7.1) with UUCP id IAA19034 for current@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 12 Jan 1996 08:47:17 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <199601112147.IAA19034@werple.net.au> X-Authentication-Warning: werple.net.au: Ucimlogi set sender to cimaxp1!jb using -f Received: by cimaxp1.cimlogic.com.au; (5.65/1.1.8.2/10Sep95-0953AM) id AA04702; Fri, 12 Jan 1996 08:46:44 +1100 From: John Birrell Subject: /usr/src/lib/libc/net/getnetbyaddr.c To: current@FreeBSD.org Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 08:46:43 +1100 (EST) Cc: jb@cimlogic.com.au X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This source file doesn't seem to be built into libc (a function of the same name with different source is in getnetnamadr.c). Should it still be in the tree? -- John Birrell CIMlogic Pty Ltd jb@cimlogic.com.au 119 Cecil Street Ph +61 3 9690 6900 South Melbourne Vic 3205 Fax +61 3 9690 6650 Australia Mob +61 18 353 137 From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jan 11 20:08:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA23590 for current-outgoing; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 20:08:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from bind.cs.fsu.edu (bind.cs.fsu.edu [128.186.121.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA23580 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 20:08:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by bind.cs.fsu.edu (8.6.9/56) id XAA26300; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 23:08:14 -0500 From: Gang-Ryung Uh Message-Id: <199601120408.XAA26300@bind.cs.fsu.edu> Subject: make all To: current@FreeBSD.org Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 23:08:13 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I downloaded FreeBSD-current src directory 2 days ago. And Now I am trying to "make all" at the current src, but I get following fatal error: ===> lib/libmd sed -e 's/mdX/md2/g' -e 's/MDX/MD2/g' /usr/src/lib/libmd/mdX.3 > md2.3 cat /usr/src/lib/libmd/md2.copyright >> md2.3 sed -e 's/mdX/md4/g' -e 's/MDX/MD4/g' /usr/src/lib/libmd/mdX.3 > md4.3 cat /usr/src/lib/libmd/md4.copyright >> md4.3 sed -e 's/mdX/md5/g' -e 's/MDX/MD5/g' /usr/src/lib/libmd/mdX.3 > md5.3 cat /usr/src/lib/libmd/md5.copyright >> md5.3 cc -O -I/usr/src/lib/libmd -c md2c.c -o md2c.o cc -O -I/usr/src/lib/libmd -c md4c.c -o md4c.o cc -O -I/usr/src/lib/libmd -c md5c.c -o md5c.o sed -e 's/mdX/md2/g' -e 's/MDX/MD2/g' mdXhl.c > md2hl.c cc -O -I/usr/src/lib/libmd -c md2hl.c -o md2hl.o md2hl.c:16: mdX.h: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. ============================================ I look at the /usr/src/lib/libmd, but there is no "mdX.h". Am I missing something? Thanks. Regards, Gang-Ryung Uh (uh@cs.fsu.edu) From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 12 09:27:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA23122 for current-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jan 1996 09:27:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from cats.ucsc.edu (root@cats-po-1.UCSC.EDU [128.114.129.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA23111 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 1996 09:26:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from scruz.ucsc.edu by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id JAA02542; Fri, 12 Jan 1996 09:26:54 -0800 Received: from osprey by scruz.ucsc.edu id aa02270; 12 Jan 96 9:22 PST Received: (from markd@localhost) by Grizzly.COM (8.6.12/8.6.9) id IAA06427; Fri, 12 Jan 1996 08:37:05 GMT Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 08:37:05 GMT Message-Id: <199601120837.IAA06427@Grizzly.COM> From: Mark Diekhans To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Problem compiling current Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I saw mention that this problem was fixed several days ago, yet a tree sup-ed yesterday will not compile. Where is fprtint_t& fptrdiff_t supposed to be defined. Thanks! cc -O -DLIBC_RCS -DSYSLIBC_RCS -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/a/markd/work/2.2-current/src/lib/libc/locale -DYP -I/usr/tmp/dest/usr/include -c /a/markd/work/2.2-current/src/lib/libc/gmon/mcount.c -o mcount.o /a/markd/work/2.2-current/src/lib/libc/gmon/mcount.c: In function `_mcount': /a/markd/work/2.2-current/src/lib/libc/gmon/mcount.c:71: parse error before `frompc' /a/markd/work/2.2-current/src/lib/libc/gmon/mcount.c:71: declaration for parameter `fptrint_t' but no such parameter /a/markd/work/2.2-current/src/lib/libc/gmon/mcount.c:76: parse error before `frompci' /a/markd/work/2.2-current/src/lib/libc/gmon/mcount.c:100: `frompci' undeclared (first use this function) /a/markd/work/2.2-current/src/lib/libc/gmon/mcount.c:100: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /a/markd/work/2.2-current/src/lib/libc/gmon/mcount.c:100: for each function it appears in.) *** Error code 1 (continuing) From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 12 09:27:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA23173 for current-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jan 1996 09:27:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA23154 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 1996 09:27:10 -0800 (PST) From: sycheng@cis.ufl.edu Received: from sloop.cis.ufl.edu (sycheng@sloop.cis.ufl.edu [128.227.176.62]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id JAA08883 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 1996 09:26:46 -0800 Received: by sloop.cis.ufl.edu (8.6.12/cis.ufl.edu) id MAA02262; Fri, 12 Jan 1996 12:25:01 -0500 Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 12:25:01 -0500 Message-Id: <199601121725.MAA02262@sloop.cis.ufl.edu> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: [HELP] cannot start X window Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk HI : I am running most recently FreeBSD current with XFree86 3.1.2. Recently my X window suddenly refuses to work. No matter I run "startx" or "xinit" and even comment out all X configuration files, the only message I got is fail to set default font path '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/..............' Any idea ? Appreciate. -- SY From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 12 09:35:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA23632 for current-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jan 1996 09:35:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA23625 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 1996 09:35:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id SAA29609 ; Fri, 12 Jan 1996 18:35:09 +0100 Received: from (uucp@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with UUCP id SAA00467 ; Fri, 12 Jan 1996 18:35:08 +0100 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.7.3/keltia-uucp-2.7) id HAA08074; Fri, 12 Jan 1996 07:49:12 +0100 (MET) From: Ollivier Robert Message-Id: <199601120649.HAA08074@keltia.freenix.fr> Subject: Re: make all To: uh@bind.cs.fsu.edu (Gang-Ryung Uh) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 07:49:12 +0100 (MET) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199601120408.XAA26300@bind.cs.fsu.edu> from "Gang-Ryung Uh" at Jan 11, 96 11:08:13 pm X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT ctm#1530 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It seems that Gang-Ryung Uh said: > I downloaded FreeBSD-current src directory 2 days ago. And > Now I am trying to "make all" at the current src, but I get > following fatal error: [...] > Am I missing something? Yes, the fact that you should do "make world" instead of "make all". The former has a target (among others) named "includes" which will populate /usr/include. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.frmug.fr.net FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #13: Sat Jan 6 20:08:04 MET 1996 From owner-freebsd-current Fri Jan 12 23:23:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA11153 for current-outgoing; Fri, 12 Jan 1996 23:23:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.64.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA11145 Fri, 12 Jan 1996 23:23:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.7.3/8.6.9) id XAA00657; Fri, 12 Jan 1996 23:22:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 23:22:48 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601130722.XAA00657@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: jfieber@indiana.edu CC: james@miller.cs.uwm.edu, current@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: (message from John Fieber on Wed, 10 Jan 1996 11:24:05 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: Overloaded PRINTER variable in bsd.doc.mk? From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * change PRINTER to FORMATS in the bsd.doc.mk as well, but I'm certainly Go for it! Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 13 01:47:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA16321 for current-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jan 1996 01:47:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA16305 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 1996 01:47:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id KAA28588; Sat, 13 Jan 1996 10:47:02 +0100 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id KAA06604; Sat, 13 Jan 1996 10:47:02 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.3/8.6.9) id KAA11581; Sat, 13 Jan 1996 10:23:57 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199601130923.KAA11581@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: A few NITS about SCSI Tapes To: regnauld@tetard.frmug.fr.net (Philippe Regnauld) Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 10:23:57 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199601122150.WAA13226@tetard.frmug.fr.net> from "Philippe Regnauld" at Jan 12, 96 10:50:47 pm X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [Redirected to -current] As Philippe Regnauld wrote: > > BTW, the following SCSI command (posted earlier): > > scsi -s 1800 -f /dev/st0ctl.0 \ > -c "1b 0 0 0 0:b5 v:b1 v:b1 v:b1 0" 0 1 1 > > works fine to retension my tape (QIC 60)... > > But if I use: > > mt -f /dev/nrst0 reten > > I get: > > % mt reten > mt: /dev/nrst0: retens: Invalid argument Are you sure you have rebuilt and rebooted your kernel? Btw., with -current as of yesterday, it's ``mt retension'' now. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 13 13:47:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA14663 for current-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jan 1996 13:47:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from pent.vnet.net (pent.vnet.net [166.82.194.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA14650 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 1996 13:47:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.vnet.net (localhost.vnet.net [127.0.0.1]) by pent.vnet.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA00363 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 1996 16:05:15 -0500 Message-Id: <199601132105.QAA00363@pent.vnet.net> X-Authentication-Warning: pent.vnet.net: Host localhost.vnet.net didn't use HELO protocol To: current@freebsd.org Subject: finger problem going from 2.1R to -current Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 16:05:15 -0500 From: Adam Hawks Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I have a current (ctm ~1357) box and a 2.1R box. My ISP installed fingerd with a mailque for us users. Normal finger works ok for both boxes but the finger format for the fingerd mailque dosn't work on the current box. 2.1R box: pent#finger runqueue:pent.vnet.net@email2.vnet.net [ginger.vnet.net] FINGERD v1.0 -- Jason L. Wright **** Locking queue directory...done ** Subqueue(pent.vnet.net) NAA12334: locked . . . on current box pent#finger runqueue:pent.vnet.net@email2.vnet.net [ginger.vnet.net] pent# and the mail que doesn't run. any ideas on what could have changed from 2.1R to current in regards to the finger program. I used the same config file on both machines. GENERIC from the 2.1R box and also my own config on both box's with the same result. Adam W. Hawks root@pent.vnet.net awhawks@vnet.net awhawks@uncc.edu From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 13 16:42:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA00529 for current-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jan 1996 16:42:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA00518 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 1996 16:42:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from ibp.ibp.fr (ibp.ibp.fr [132.227.60.30]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id QAA25678 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 1996 16:42:20 -0800 Received: from blaise.ibp.fr (blaise.ibp.fr [132.227.60.1]) by ibp.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with ESMTP id BAA12226 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 1996 01:27:47 +0100 Received: from (uucp@localhost) by blaise.ibp.fr (8.6.12/jtpda-5.0) with UUCP id BAA04123 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 14 Jan 1996 01:27:46 +0100 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.7.3/keltia-uucp-2.7) id BAA00301 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 14 Jan 1996 01:27:03 +0100 (MET) From: Ollivier Robert Message-Id: <199601140027.BAA00301@keltia.freenix.fr> Subject: Panic at ahb probe time To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Current Users' list) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 01:27:02 +0100 (MET) X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT ctm#1530 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I just compiled a kernel with current sources CTM_BEGIN 2.0 cvs-cur 1557 1996/01/13 21:00:02 and get an instant panic at ahb probe time: Kernel from Jan, 6th (before Justin's latest changes on Jan, 7th) is fine. Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x8c fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xf0183dd3 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 0 () interrupt mask = net tty bio kernel: type 12 trap, code = 0 Stopped at _ahb_get_ecb+0x23 movl 0x8c(%esi),%ebx ^^^^^^^^^^ cs 0xf08a0008 ds 0xf08a0010 es 0xf01b0010 _scioctl+0x4e0 ss 0x10 eax 0xffffffff ecx 0x1800 edx 0x0 ebx 0xf08a6b58 esp 0xefbffd88 _kstack+0x1d88 ebp 0xefbffd98 _kstack+0x1d98 esi 0x0 ^^^^^^^^^^^ edi 0x63 trace: _ahb_get_ecb _ahb_scsi_cmd _scsi_scsi_cmd _scsi_test_unit_ready _scsi_probedevs _scsi_probe_bus _scsi_attachdevs _ahb_busattach _ahb_attach _eisa_configure Kernel configuration file: # # GENERIC -- Generic machine with WD/AHx/NCR/BTx family disks # # $Id: GENERIC,v 1.11 1994/11/08 07:39:26 jkh Exp $ # machine "i386" cpu "I486_CPU" ident "DKELTIA" maxusers 20 options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options MFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options PROCFS #Berkeley proc Filesystem options UNION #Union filesystem options "CD9660" #ISO FS options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 options UCONSOLE #for xconsole options DEVRANDOM options "SCSI_2_DEF" options JREMOD #for devfs stuff # options "COMPAT_LINUX" options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG options "SHMMAXPGS=1024" # 4096 KB of sharable memory # I definitely need this options CHILD_MAX=128 options OPEN_MAX=128 options DDB options KTRACE config kernel root on sd0 swap on sd0 and sd1 and sd2 dumps on sd0 controller isa0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 controller eisa0 controller bt0 controller ahb0 controller scbus0 at bt0 controller scbus1 at ahb0 # BT: conner + CD + tandberg + hp # preconfigured devices, not all used of course disk sd0 at scbus0 target 0 unit 0 disk sd1 at scbus0 target 1 disk sd2 at scbus0 target 2 disk sd3 at scbus0 target 3 tape st1 at scbus0 target 4 tape st0 at scbus0 target 5 device cd0 at scbus0 target 6 # 1742: seagate + micropolis + quantum disk sd10 at scbus1 target 0 disk sd11 at scbus1 target 1 disk sd12 at scbus1 target 2 disk sd13 at scbus1 target 3 # new sound config. controller snd0 device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 3 vector sbintr device opl0 at isa? port 0x388 device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr device ed0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 vector edintr pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device log pseudo-device sl 1 pseudo-device ppp 1 pseudo-device bpfilter 4 #Berkeley packet filter pseudo-device pty 32 pseudo-device speaker pseudo-device vn #Vnode driver (turns a file into a device) pseudo-device disc #Discard device pseudo-device tun 1 #Enable user-level PPP see ppp(8) pseudo-device snp 3 #Snoop device - to look at pty/vty/etc.. FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT #1: Wed Jan 10 02:23:42 MET 1996 roberto@keltia.freenix.fr:/src/src/sys/compile/DKELTIA CPU: i486 DX4 (486-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x480 Stepping=0 Features=0x3 real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) avail memory = 31162368 (30432K bytes) eisa0: Probing for devices on the EISA bus bt0: at 0x330-0x333 irq 11 on eisa0 slot 3 bt0: Bt747 / 0-(32bit) bus bt0: reading board settings, busmastering, int=11 bt0: version 3.37, fast sync, parity, 32 mbxs, 32 ccbs bt0: targ 0 sync rate=10.00MB/s(100ns), offset=15 bt0: targ 4 async bt0: targ 6 sync rate= 4.54MB/s(220ns), offset=08 bt0: Using Strict Round robin scheme (bt0:0:0): "CONNER CFP1080S 3939" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(bt0:0:0): Direct-Access 1030MB (2110812 512 byte sectors) (bt0:4:0): "TANDBERG TDC 3600 =08:" type 1 removable SCSI 2 st1(bt0:4:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x0, drive empty (bt0:6:0): "MATSHITA CD-ROM CR-8004 1.1f" type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd0(bt0:6:0): CD-ROM cd present [325252 x 2048 byte records] ahb0: at 0x5c00-0x5cff irq 12 on eisa0 slot 5 (ahb0:1:0): "MICROP 1624-07MZ1077801 HZ2P" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd11(ahb0:1:0): Direct-Access 642MB (1316751 512 byte sectors) (ahb0:2:0): "SEAGATE ST31200N 8158" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd12(ahb0:2:0): Direct-Access 1006MB (2061108 512 byte sectors) (ahb0:3:0): "QUANTUM PD210S 501C" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd13(ahb0:3:0): Direct-Access 199MB (408574 512 byte sectors) Probing for devices on the ISA bus: [...] new masks: bio c0001840, tty c003049a, net c003049a -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.frmug.fr.net FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #13: Sat Jan 6 20:08:04 MET 1996 From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 13 18:25:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA05460 for current-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jan 1996 18:25:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA05448 Sat, 13 Jan 1996 18:25:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199601140225.SAA05448@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: Host localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Ollivier Robert cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Current Users' list) Subject: Re: Panic at ahb probe time In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 14 Jan 1996 01:27:02 +0100." <199601140027.BAA00301@keltia.freenix.fr> Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 18:25:21 -0800 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk >I just compiled a kernel with current sources ... Compile them again. I just fixed the bug. It was easy to find with your traceback. Thanks -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-current Sat Jan 13 20:30:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA11881 for current-outgoing; Sat, 13 Jan 1996 20:30:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from sl-015.sl.cybercomm.net (sl-015.sl.cybercomm.net [199.171.196.143]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA11848 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 1996 20:29:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from sl-015.sl.cybercomm.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sl-015.sl.cybercomm.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA00514 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 1996 23:28:57 -0500 Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 23:28:56 -0500 (EST) From: Sujal Patel X-Sender: smpatel@sl-015.sl.cybercomm.net To: current@freebsd.org Subject: ktrace causes vm_page_free: freeing busy page Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I think this was discussed a few months ago, but I'm pretty sure that this was fixed pretty quickly last time... Well it's back :) ktrace works for some things, but the following will panic the kernel in about 10-15 seconds (for me). I'm running -current from a few days ago. [smpatel:sl-015] [0:~]> cat panicme.c #include #include main () { int f = open ("/etc/motd", O_RDONLY); while (1) lseek (f, 0, SEEK_SET); } [smpatel:sl-015] [0:~]> cc panicme.c [smpatel:sl-015] [0:~]> ktrace ./a.out panic: vm_page_free: freeing busy page Sujal