From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 3 00:11:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA05017 for current-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 00:11:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from citrine.cyberstation.net (hannibal@citrine.cyberstation.net [205.167.0.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA05010 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 00:11:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (hannibal@localhost) by citrine.cyberstation.net (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id CAA06405 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 02:11:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 02:11:10 -0600 (CST) From: Dan Walters To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone using afterstep? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk OK, I've been playing around, and it happens whenever I go wild on the mouse buttons. :) It doens't happen after I kill moused, though - something here I should know about? It's a mouseman, about 2 months old, moused runs like: moused -c -p /dev/mouse -t mouseman Also, power went out here about an hour ago, so I got to find a new quirk. :) In /etc/rc, there's already a "rm -f /dev/log", but with the devfs changes, that's moved to /var/run/log and the /dev is only a symlink. After the crash syslogd paused for a few seconds with an error because taht already existed, so should prob. change it to /var/run. ====================================================================== Dan Walters hannibal@cyberstation.net ====================================================================== On Sat, 2 Nov 1996, Dan Walters wrote: > I'm using afterstep 1.0pre1, from the ports collection - probably about > once or twice a day it tends to just lock up. All other apps still run > find, but of course I can't switch windows, the window manager keys don't > work, mouse pointer is stuck in some non-client area of the windows > (like the title bar,) etc. (In other words, it seems to be the WM.) I've > asked on the afterstep list, and none of them seem to be having problems, > so I'm assuming it's something to do with FreeBSD (I'm sure they are all > in Linux.) I'm running 2.2-CURRENT, last make world was about a week ago, > XFree86 3.2 (it happened on 3.1.2G too.) I compiled with debugging and > did a kill -11 to get a coredump just a second ago, but it didn't have a > call stack so it didn't help me much. I don't really know how to go about > debugging a WM. :) Is this happening to anyone else? Any ideas? > > ====================================================================== > Dan Walters > hannibal@cyberstation.net > ====================================================================== > From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 3 03:39:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA16343 for current-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 03:39:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA16337; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 03:39:26 -0800 (PST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199611031139.DAA16337@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: /usr/obj size To: chuckr@glue.umd.edu (Chuck Robey) Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 03:39:25 -0800 (PST) Cc: mark@quickweb.com, freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Chuck Robey" at Nov 3, 96 00:32:38 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Chuck Robey wrote: > > On Sat, 2 Nov 1996, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > > > Mark Mayo wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi all, I was thinking of finally using the new CVSup to get the latest > > > -current tree (I'm currently running the August 2.2-SNAP) but, once > > > again, I'm low on disk space :-( I asked this question several months > > > ago when I built the -stable branch, but alas, my memory is terrible (my > > > school marks prove it ;-)) and I forget the size of the /usr/obj > > > directory. I'm hoping it is under 100MB so I can just mount up a zip drive > > > (I'll have to pull it off my other PC) and build on that.. > > > > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > > /dev/sd3f 424591 95491 295133 24% /usr/obj > > /dev/sd3g 230345 177091 34827 84% /usr/src > > > > > Also, how much disk space overhead will pulling in the latest branch > > > incur? > > > > not sure, but i know hte size of the cvs tree (not including ports, but > > it does include the smp tree) > > Huh? I don't think that's true, Jon. Where is it located in the tree? here is the missing piece from my previous mail, osrry for the confusion that i must have caused. (mdu is a shell script, that i have included below) Aspen:[5] cd /home/ncvs Aspen:[6] mdu 4441 CVSROOT # these numbers are 1k blocks 17212 smp # obtained by running 'du -s -k' 251785 src # on each subdirectory of /home/ncvs 1635 sup Aspen:[7] cat `which mdu` #!/bin/sh for x in `ls` do if [ -d $x ] ; then du -s -k $x fi done i cvsup'ed just last night so this included all the RELENG_2_2 changes my cvsup.file include these distrbutions: src-{base,bin,contrib,etc,games, gnu,include,lib,libexec,sbin,secure,share,sys,usrbin,usrsbin} i do not sup the ports distribution or any of its parts, i just grab 'em as i need 'em. i sup src-smp and place it /home/ncvs/smp whereas the rest of the distributions are placed into /home/ncvs jmb -- Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD--4.4BSD Unix for PC clones, source included. http://www.freebsd.org/ PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 3 03:55:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA16983 for current-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 03:55:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA16976 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 03:55:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id WAA08531; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 22:25:26 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199611031155.WAA08531@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: /usr/obj size To: imp@village.org (Warner Losh) Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 22:25:26 +1030 (CST) Cc: mark@quickweb.com, freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Warner Losh" at Nov 2, 96 11:49:36 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Warner Losh stands accused of saying: > > I'm very happy with my JAZ drive, but it is a little on the slow > side. About 70% as fast as my Quantum Prodrive 1225, near as I can > tell. When I got mine, the ZIP drives were $199 and the JAZ drives > had just dropped to $399 internal so I figured 10x the storage for > 2x the price was hard to say no to. I get about 1.2M/sec reading and a bit over 3M/sec writing (?!) using iozone on mine (80/8192 on a 24M p83, reasonably -current, NCR PCI). For a 1G portable floppy drive, it's quite respectable. > Warner -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 3 04:10:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA18291 for current-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 04:10:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from tagada.grolier.fr (tagada.grolier.fr [194.158.97.86]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA18274 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 04:10:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (brasil.brainstorm.fr [193.56.58.33]) by tagada.grolier.fr (8.7.6/MGC-960516) with ESMTP id NAA14706 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 13:12:00 +0100 (MET) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id MAA09607 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 12:52:53 +0100 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.8.2/keltia-uucp-2.9) id MAA09829; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 12:41:35 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199611031141.MAA09829@keltia.freenix.fr> Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 12:41:34 +0100 From: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /usr/obj size References: X-Mailer: Mutt 0.49.07 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT ctm#2632 In-Reply-To: ; from Mark Mayo on Nov 2, 1996 23:13:39 -0500 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Mark Mayo: > ago when I built the -stable branch, but alas, my memory is terrible (my > school marks prove it ;-)) and I forget the size of the /usr/obj > directory. I'm hoping it is under 100MB so I can just mount up a zip drive Without profiled libs, my /usr/obj is: 206 [12:36] root@keltia:/usr/obj# du -s . 105047 . You will be short... > Also, how much disk space overhead will pulling in the latest branch > incur? If you get /usr/src, the overhead is not much. The CVS tree grew a bit because each file has now an additionnal line. The CVS tree is about: 211 [12:37] root@keltia:/spare/FreeBSD-current# du -s . 271323 . > P.S. Anyone have a rough estimate of how many MB the diffs between the > August SNAP and -current is? I have to sup over a modem so it hurts.. Rather large because a lot of things went into /usr/src/contrib so you have the old copy in the Attic and the new one in contrib. Remember that we've got a new gcc, a new libg++, a new named and so on. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #26: Sun Oct 27 19:39:11 MET 1996 From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 3 04:59:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA21926 for current-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 04:59:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (root@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA21914 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 04:59:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from campa.panke.de (anonymous215.ppp.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.215]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.6.13/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA00583; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 13:58:22 +0100 Received: (from wosch@localhost) by campa.panke.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA00901; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 12:46:26 +0100 Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 12:46:26 +0100 From: Wolfram Schneider Message-Id: <199611031146.MAA00901@campa.panke.de> To: Mark Mayo Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: /usr/obj size In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Hi all, I was thinking of finally using the new CVSup to get the latest >-current tree (I'm currently running the August 2.2-SNAP) but, once >again, I'm low on disk space :-( I asked this question several months >ago when I built the -stable branch, but alas, my memory is terrible (my >school marks prove it ;-)) and I forget the size of the /usr/obj >directory. I'm hoping it is under 100MB so I can just mount up a zip drive >(I'll have to pull it off my other PC) and build on that.. 112MB for /usr/obj Wolfram From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 3 12:21:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA19690 for current-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 12:21:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from frmug.org (frmug-gw.frmug.org [193.56.58.252]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA19683 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 12:21:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by frmug.org (8.8.2/8.8.2/frmug-1.2) with UUCP id VAA23023 for current@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 21:21:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xp11.frmug.org (8.8.2/8.7.3/xp11-uucp-1.1) with ESMTP id VAA01052 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 21:17:08 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199611032017.VAA01052@xp11.frmug.org> To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: panic: page fault Date: Sun, 03 Nov 1996 21:17:06 +0100 From: "Philippe Charnier" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I got this with a current kernel (last friday, cvs-cur #2646). Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x1000024 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xf01ba1a3 stack pointer = 0x10:0xf01daff4 frame pointer = 0x10:0xf01daff8 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 current process = Idle interrupt mask = panic: page fault xp11# gdb -k GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it under certain conditions; type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB; type "show warranty" for details. GDB 4.13 (i386-unknown-freebsd), Copyright 1994 Free Software Foundation, Inc. (kgdb) symbol-file /usr/trash/kernels.debug/kernel.2646 Reading symbols from /usr/trash/kernels.debug/kernel.2646...done. (kgdb) exec-file /usr/trash/crash/kernel.8 (kgdb) core-file /usr/trash/crash/vmcore.8 IdlePTD 22b000 current pcb at 0x1e66e0 panic: page fault #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:243 243 dumppcb.pcb_cr3 = rcr3(); (kgdb) bt #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:243 #1 0xf0114f23 in panic (fmt=0xf01b8cef "page fault") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:367 #2 0xf01b9883 in trap_fatal (frame=0xf01dafb8) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:741 #3 0xf01b9364 in trap_pfault (frame=0xf01dafb8, usermode=0) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:652 #4 0xf01b8ff7 in trap (frame={tf_es = 16, tf_ds = -266665968, tf_edi = 0, tf_esi = -255372288, tf_ebp = -266489864, tf_isp = -266489888, tf_ebx = 16777216, tf_edx = 1, tf_ecx = 0, tf_eax = 16777216, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = -266534912, tf_eip = -266624605, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 65542, tf_esp = -266445016, tf_ss = 0}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:311 #5 0xf01ba1a3 in vm_page_zero_idle () at ../../i386/i386/vm_machdep.c:842 (kgdb) up 4 #4 0xf01b8ff7 in trap (frame={tf_es = 16, tf_ds = -266665968, tf_edi = 0, tf_esi = -255372288, tf_ebp = -266489864, tf_isp = -266489888, tf_ebx = 16777216, tf_edx = 1, tf_ecx = 0, tf_eax = 16777216, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = -266534912, tf_eip = -266624605, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 65542, tf_esp = -266445016, tf_ss = 0}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:311 311 (void) trap_pfault(&frame, FALSE); (kgdb) up 1 #5 0xf01ba1a3 in vm_page_zero_idle () at ../../i386/i386/vm_machdep.c:842 842 if ((cnt.v_free_count > cnt.v_interrupt_free_min) && (kgdb) list 837 */ 838 int 839 vm_page_zero_idle() { 840 vm_page_t m; 841 static int free_rover = 0; 842 if ((cnt.v_free_count > cnt.v_interrupt_free_min) && 843 (m = vm_page_list_find(PQ_FREE, free_rover))) { 844 --(*vm_page_queues[m->queue].lcnt); 845 TAILQ_REMOVE(vm_page_queues[m->queue].pl, m, pageq); 846 enable_intr(); (kgdb) print cnt $1 = {v_swtch = 286553, v_trap = 591536, v_syscall = 11028453, v_intr = 7327267, v_soft = 161029, v_vm_faults = 510152, v_cow_faults = 271432, v_zfod = 132442, v_swapin = 977, v_swapout = 1983, v_swappgsin = 2452, v_swappgsout = 3758, v_vnodein = 2082, v_vnodeout = 0, v_vnodepgsin = 7637, v_vnodepgsout = 0, v_intrans = 13, v_reactivated = 7419, v_pdwakeups = 201, v_pdpages = 454533, v_dfree = 127, v_pfree = 319938, v_tfree = 504874, v_page_size = 4096, v_page_count = 3633, v_free_reserved = 94, v_free_target = 427, v_free_min = 111, v_free_count = 250, v_wire_count = 996, v_active_count = 1680, v_inactive_target = 653, v_inactive_count = 325, v_cache_count = 381, v_cache_min = 305, v_cache_max = 1222, v_pageout_free_min = 10, v_interrupt_free_min = 2} (kgdb) print m $2 = (struct vm_page *) 0x1000000 (kgdb) print *m Cannot access memory at address 0x1000000. (kgdb) Note that I have default setting (don't know which one) for PQ_L2_SIZE which is used in vm_page_list_find() (line 592, /usr/src/sys/vm/vm_page.c). ------ ------ Philippe Charnier charnier@lirmm.fr (smtp) charnier@xp11.frmug.org (uucp) ``a PC not running FreeBSD is like a venusian with no tentacles'' ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 3 13:23:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA26295 for current-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 13:23:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA26279 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 13:23:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA03231; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 14:16:16 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199611032116.OAA03231@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: /usr/obj size To: imp@village.org (Warner Losh) Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 14:16:16 -0700 (MST) Cc: jmb@freefall.freebsd.org, mark@quickweb.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Warner Losh" at Nov 2, 96 11:53:44 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > However, one thing is clear: You need about 1.5G of disk space to have > an effective development machine. I have 2.25G on my machine, and > things get a little cramped when I try to do both OpenBSD things and > FreeBSD things at the same time. Amen. I have 3G on this box, and I do FreeBSD, FreeBSD + Terry, FreeBSD + SMP, and OpenBSD. It's still quite cramped. I'm waiting for the 24G drives to catch on so that the 9G prices drop. 8-). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 3 15:29:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA11499 for current-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 15:29:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from nexgen.n4hhe.ampr.org (max2-206.HiWAAY.net [206.104.22.206]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11483 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 15:29:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dkelly@localhost) by nexgen.n4hhe.ampr.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA19182; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 17:29:06 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.5-alpha [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199611032017.VAA01052@xp11.frmug.org> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 1996 17:14:42 -0600 (CST) Organization: Amateur Radio N4HHE, Madison, AL. From: David Kelly To: "Philippe Charnier" Subject: RE: panic: page fault Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 03:17:06 "Philippe Charnier" wrote: >>Hello, > >I got this with a current kernel (last friday, cvs-cur #2646). > >Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode >fault virtual address = 0x1000024 >fault code = supervisor read, page not present >instruction pointer = 0x8:0xf01ba1a3 >stack pointer = 0x10:0xf01daff4 >frame pointer = 0x10:0xf01daff8 >code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 >processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 >current process = Idle >interrupt mask = >panic: page fault I've been getting similar, but not been saving the crash files. Last week I upgraded from a 486DX33 ISA w/ 8M to 486/133 PCI w/ 32M as the DX33 MB would no longer work with either an Adaptec 1542CF or UltraStor 14F SCSI card. Slipped the new MB in place and all was great except I'd compiled out bounce buffers in my 2.1.0R (plus a bunch of CTM's). Added bounce buffers back and the keyboard didn't work. Took bounce buffers back out and the keyboard still didn't work. Apparently my sources were not the ones for the kernel that did work. So in went the 961014-SNAP. Keyboard works. "New" (had BIOS 1.10, downloaded 1.16 from Adaptec, burned a new EPROM, didn't help) Adaptec 2940 and ST3610N HD don't work reliably. Data on disk gets corrupted. Kernel crashes similar to the above. Crash seems to be related to disk access. "rm -rf directory" has brought it down a couple of times. Once on an NFS imported fs, bunches of times on my SCSI disk. Never on my IDE disk. Wasn't going to say anything 'till next week as I applied all the CTM patches then double-checked GENERIC and noticed a new option for the AHC driver saying some MB's didn't I/O or PIO right... Built a new kernel... got lots of "warning: comparing signed and unsigned values", and walked off with a "make world" running. Will know if that fixed it tomorrow when I reboot it with its new world and kernel. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@tomcat1.tbe.com (wk), dkelly@hiwaay.net (hm) ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 3 16:01:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA13762 for current-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 16:01:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA13749 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 16:01:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (richardc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA27495 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 16:02:15 -0800 Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 16:02:13 -0800 (PST) From: Veggy Vinny To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ncrcontrol in -current Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk the ncrcontrol program seems to not work in -current after I rebuilt the binary just to confirm this. root@bigbang [4:07pm] [~]>> ncrcontrol ncrcontrol: incompatible with kernel. Rebuild! Vince GaiaNet Corporation - Unix Networking Operations - GUS Mailing Lists Admin From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 3 16:27:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA14908 for current-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 16:27:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA14903 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 16:27:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by who.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with SMTP id QAA08504 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 16:27:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id BAA08481 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 01:25:00 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id BAA11844 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 01:24:40 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.2/8.6.9) id BAA01274 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 01:21:27 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199611040021.BAA01274@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: 2.2 release cycle: userconfig problem To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 01:21:26 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk While installing my pre-release of 2.2, i've just got a panic when finishing UserConfig. Are there any experts for UserConfig around? static void savelist(DEV_LIST *list, int active) { struct isa_device *id_p,*id_pn; while (list) { if ((list->comment == DEV_DEVICE) && list->changed) { setdev(list,active); /* set the device itself */ id_pn = NULL; for (id_p=isa_devlist; id_p; id_p=id_p->id_next) { /* look on the list for it */ if (id_p->id_id == list->device->id_id) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The panic was due to a NULL pointer dereference at the marked spot. I'm not sure which of my actions in UserConfig were responsible for this error (right now, my next attempt is flying). Maybe there was a problem that there was no BIOS-detected disk previously? -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 3 16:45:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA16848 for current-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 16:45:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA16841 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 16:45:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id BAA08973; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 01:44:51 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id BAA12424; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 01:44:50 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.2/8.6.9) id BAA01631; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 01:40:54 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199611040040.BAA01631@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: ncrcontrol in -current To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 01:40:54 +0100 (MET) Cc: richardc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (Veggy Vinny) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: from Veggy Vinny at "Nov 3, 96 04:02:13 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Veggy Vinny wrote: > the ncrcontrol program seems to not work in -current after I > rebuilt the binary just to confirm this. > > root@bigbang [4:07pm] [~]>> ncrcontrol > > ncrcontrol: incompatible with kernel. Rebuild! Mine is working. Both, /kernel and /usr/sbin/ncrcontrol are dated Oct 28. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 3 16:47:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA17000 for current-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 16:47:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA16991 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 16:47:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (richardc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA29525; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 16:47:50 -0800 Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 16:47:48 -0800 (PST) From: Veggy Vinny To: Joerg Wunsch cc: FreeBSD-current users Subject: Re: ncrcontrol in -current In-Reply-To: <199611040040.BAA01631@uriah.heep.sax.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 4 Nov 1996, J Wunsch wrote: > As Veggy Vinny wrote: > > > the ncrcontrol program seems to not work in -current after I > > rebuilt the binary just to confirm this. > > > > root@bigbang [4:07pm] [~]>> ncrcontrol > > > > ncrcontrol: incompatible with kernel. Rebuild! > > Mine is working. Both, /kernel and /usr/sbin/ncrcontrol are dated > Oct 28. Mines are dated November 3. Vince GaiaNet Corporation - Unix Networking Operations - GUS Mailing Lists Admin From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 3 17:25:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA20124 for current-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 17:25:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx.serv.net (mx.serv.net [199.201.191.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA20114 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 17:25:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from MindBender.serv.net by mx.serv.net (8.7.5/SERV Revision: 2.30) id RAA04728; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 17:25:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.serv.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA21569; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 17:25:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611040125.RAA21569@MindBender.serv.net> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.serv.net: Host michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Terry Lambert cc: imp@village.org (Warner Losh), jmb@freefall.freebsd.org, mark@quickweb.com, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /usr/obj size In-reply-to: Your message of Sun, 03 Nov 96 14:16:16 -0700. <199611032116.OAA03231@phaeton.artisoft.com> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 1996 17:25:22 -0800 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> However, one thing is clear: You need about 1.5G of disk space to have >> an effective development machine. I have 2.25G on my machine, and >> things get a little cramped when I try to do both OpenBSD things and >> FreeBSD things at the same time. >Amen. I have 3G on this box, and I do FreeBSD, FreeBSD + Terry, >FreeBSD + SMP, and OpenBSD. It's still quite cramped. >I'm waiting for the 24G drives to catch on so that the 9G prices >drop. 8-). Nah... you just need 4-6 4GB drives striped with ccd. That's what they make full-tower cases for... :-) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@MindBender.serv.net --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 3 17:37:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA21480 for current-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 17:37:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA21470 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 17:37:19 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611040137.RAA21470@freefall.freebsd.org> To: current Subject: Possible SCSI instability coming to a current near you. Date: Sun, 03 Nov 1996 17:37:18 -0800 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is a warning that the code on the SCSI branch, plus some additional work I've done this weekend will be coming into current if not tonight, tomorrow night. All steps to ensure that this code works, given the hardware I have access to, have been taken, but this is no way guarantees that I haven't messed something up. If this worries you, don't update your kernel for a while. Otherwise, lend a hand in testing out these changes. Thanks, -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 3 17:44:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA22423 for current-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 17:44:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from sequent.kiae.su (sequent.kiae.su [193.125.152.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA22402 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 17:44:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by sequent.kiae.su id AA08306 (5.65.kiae-2 for current@freebsd.org); Mon, 4 Nov 1996 05:35:32 +0400 Received: by sequent.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Mon, 4 Nov 96 05:35:31 +0400 Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.ru (8.8.2/8.8.2) id EAA00664 for current@freebsd.org; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 04:29:16 +0300 (MSK) Message-Id: <199611040129.EAA00664@nagual.ru> Subject: cvsup.nl problems (who owns it?) To: current@freebsd.org (FreeBSD-current) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 04:29:16 +0300 (MSK) From: "=?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?=" (Andrey A. Chernov) Organization: self X-Class: Fast X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Parsing supfile "/usr/share/examples/cvsup/supfile.ports" Looking up address of cvsup.nl.freebsd.org Connecting to cvsup.nl.freebsd.org Connected to cvsup.nl.freebsd.org Exchanging collection information Server message: Unknown collection "ports-all" in hostbase "/home" It work yesterday. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.ru/~ache/ From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 3 18:00:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA24794 for current-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 18:00:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from quagmire.ki.net (root@quagmire.ki.net [205.150.102.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA24786 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 18:00:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by quagmire.ki.net (8.8.2/8.7.5) with SMTP id VAA10683; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 21:00:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 21:00:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Veggy Vinny cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ncrcontrol in -current In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 3 Nov 1996, Veggy Vinny wrote: > the ncrcontrol program seems to not work in -current after I > rebuilt the binary just to confirm this. > > root@bigbang [4:07pm] [~]>> ncrcontrol > > ncrcontrol: incompatible with kernel. Rebuild! > Is this after a 'make world'? Marc G. Fournier scrappy@ki.net Systems Administrator @ ki.net scrappy@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 3 18:28:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA29111 for current-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 18:28:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA29059 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 18:28:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (richardc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA04612; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 18:28:57 -0800 Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 18:28:48 -0800 (PST) From: Veggy Vinny To: "Marc G. Fournier" cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ncrcontrol in -current In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 3 Nov 1996, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Sun, 3 Nov 1996, Veggy Vinny wrote: > > > the ncrcontrol program seems to not work in -current after I > > rebuilt the binary just to confirm this. > > > > root@bigbang [4:07pm] [~]>> ncrcontrol > > > > ncrcontrol: incompatible with kernel. Rebuild! > > > > Is this after a 'make world'? yes, I did a make world and it completed then rebuilt the kernel and rebooted... Vince GaiaNet Corporation - Unix Networking Operations - GUS Mailing Lists Admin From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 3 18:35:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA29751 for current-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 18:35:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA29741 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 18:35:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA11253; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:04:49 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199611040234.NAA11253@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: 2.2 release cycle: userconfig problem To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:04:49 +1030 (CST) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199611040021.BAA01274@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at Nov 4, 96 01:21:26 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk J Wunsch stands accused of saying: > > While installing my pre-release of 2.2, i've just got a panic when > finishing UserConfig. Are there any experts for UserConfig around? Err, you should know where to find me 8) > static void > savelist(DEV_LIST *list, int active) > { > struct isa_device *id_p,*id_pn; > > while (list) > { > if ((list->comment == DEV_DEVICE) && list->changed) > { > setdev(list,active); /* set the device itself */ > > id_pn = NULL; > for (id_p=isa_devlist; id_p; id_p=id_p->id_next) > { /* look on the list for it */ > if (id_p->id_id == list->device->id_id) > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ You appear to have managed to set the changed flag on a PCI device. This code is not protected from that (it should be). Here is a patch (warning, snarf-n-barf tab damage): *** userconfig.c.old Mon Nov 4 13:00:29 1996 --- userconfig.c Mon Nov 4 13:02:38 1996 *************** *** 674,679 **** --- 674,682 ---- { if ((list->comment == DEV_DEVICE) && list->changed) { + if (list->iobase == -2) + continue; /* is a PCI device; can't save */ + setdev(list,active); /* set the device itself */ id_pn = NULL; If this works, let me know and I'll commit it. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 3 18:50:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA00807 for current-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 18:50:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from dyson.iquest.net ([198.70.144.127]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA00785; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 18:50:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id VAA07783; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 21:50:16 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199611040250.VAA07783@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: Possible SCSI instability coming to a current near you. To: gibbs@freefall.freebsd.org (Justin T. Gibbs) Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 21:50:15 -0500 (EST) Cc: current@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199611040137.RAA21470@freefall.freebsd.org> from "Justin T. Gibbs" at Nov 3, 96 05:37:18 pm Reply-To: dyson@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is the NCR stuff in sync now? John From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 3 18:59:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA01335 for current-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 18:59:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA01330; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 18:59:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611040259.SAA01330@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dyson@freebsd.org cc: current@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Possible SCSI instability coming to a current near you. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 03 Nov 1996 21:50:15 EST." <199611040250.VAA07783@dyson.iquest.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 1996 18:59:22 -0800 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Is the NCR stuff in sync now? > >John The NCR stuff should work just fine - tagged queueing even. Of course I don't have an NCR adapter here to test with... -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 3 19:03:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA01738 for current-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 19:03:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from dyson.iquest.net ([198.70.144.127]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA01731; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 19:03:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id WAA07819; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 22:03:35 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199611040303.WAA07819@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: Possible SCSI instability coming to a current near you. To: gibbs@freefall.freebsd.org (Justin T. Gibbs) Date: Sun, 3 Nov 1996 22:03:34 -0500 (EST) Cc: dyson@freebsd.org, current@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199611040259.SAA01330@freefall.freebsd.org> from "Justin T. Gibbs" at Nov 3, 96 06:59:22 pm Reply-To: dyson@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > >Is the NCR stuff in sync now? > > > >John > > The NCR stuff should work just fine - tagged queueing even. > Of course I don't have an NCR adapter here to test with... > I guess that I'll be one of the gunea-pigs!!! John From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 3 19:28:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA03690 for current-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 19:28:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA03667; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 19:28:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA00346; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 19:28:20 -0800 (PST) To: "Justin T. Gibbs" cc: dyson@freebsd.org, current@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Possible SCSI instability coming to a current near you. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 03 Nov 1996 18:59:22 PST." <199611040259.SAA01330@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 1996 19:28:20 -0800 Message-ID: <344.847078100@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > The NCR stuff should work just fine - tagged queueing even. > Of course I don't have an NCR adapter here to test with... You want one? I have one in my spares box. I can ship it along with that VGA card I keep promising to locate for you (heh) - having upgraded my old Matrox Impression 4Mb card, I now have that as a spare (unless you'd prefer a #9 GXE Pro card - I can swap it out of my "hanger queen" box for the Matrox, having no particular preference between the two). Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 3 19:40:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA04624 for current-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 19:40:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA04611; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 19:40:30 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611040340.TAA04611@freefall.freebsd.org> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: dyson@freebsd.org, current@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Possible SCSI instability coming to a current near you. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 03 Nov 1996 19:28:20 PST." <344.847078100@time.cdrom.com> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 1996 19:40:30 -0800 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >You want one? I have one in my spares box. I can ship it along with >that VGA card I keep promising to locate for you. I gave up on the video card last weekend, and finially bought one myself. As for the NCR, sure, send it my way. > > Jordan -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 3 20:12:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA07884 for current-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 20:12:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA07873 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 20:12:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from rover.village.org [127.0.0.1] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 0.56 #1) id E0vKGOf-0000Zx-00; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 21:12:25 -0700 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: CTM update 2660 Date: Sun, 03 Nov 1996 21:12:25 -0700 From: Warner Losh Message-Id: Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is in 82 parts? Why is that? What did I miss that was committed recently? I thought I had already seen the 2.2 branch updates. Your in fear for his CVS tree, Warner From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 3 20:52:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA13330 for current-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 20:52:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA13319; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 20:52:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA00667; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 20:52:11 -0800 (PST) To: "Justin T. Gibbs" cc: dyson@freebsd.org, current@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Possible SCSI instability coming to a current near you. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 03 Nov 1996 19:40:30 PST." <199611040340.TAA04611@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 1996 20:52:11 -0800 Message-ID: <664.847083131@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I gave up on the video card last weekend, and finially bought one myself. Feh, sorry about that. I've just been on the road a lot lately or I'd have taken care of it sooner. This board's been sitting in my pile for 2 weeks now. :-( [and no, that doesn't mean open season for anyone else wanting it :-)] > As for the NCR, sure, send it my way. OK, will do. Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Sun Nov 3 23:08:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA00299 for current-outgoing; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 23:08:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (ghpc6.ihf.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.90.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA00269; Sun, 3 Nov 1996 23:07:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from thomas@localhost) by ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id IAA16042; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 08:06:37 +0100 From: Thomas Gellekum Message-Id: <199611040706.IAA16042@ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: tcl/tk based ports based on obsolete stuff To: ports@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 08:06:35 +0100 (MET) Cc: thomas@ghpc8.ihf.rwth-aachen.de, jmz@freebsd.org, wollman@freebsd.org, asami@freebsd.org, mr@freebsd.org, jkh@freebsd.org, pst@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199611011108.DAA01754@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> from Satoshi Asami at "Nov 1, 96 03:08:28 am" Organization: Institut f. Hochfrequenztechnik, RWTH Aachen X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Satoshi Asami wrote: > A followup on this: > > misc/ctk/Makefile tcl7.4 thomas@ghpc8.ihf.rwth-aachen.de I'll mark it broken. CTk uses tcl7.4 internals everywhere and there are too many changes from tcl7.4 to 7.5 to make an upgrade easy. tg From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 4 00:27:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA07002 for current-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 00:27:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA06974 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 00:27:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id JAA20271; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:26:36 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id JAA17469; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:26:35 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.2/8.6.9) id JAA04246; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:21:59 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199611040821.JAA04246@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: 2.2 release cycle: userconfig problem To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:21:58 +0100 (MET) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199611040234.NAA11253@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from Michael Smith at "Nov 4, 96 01:04:49 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Michael Smith wrote: > > While installing my pre-release of 2.2, i've just got a panic when > > finishing UserConfig. Are there any experts for UserConfig around? > > Err, you should know where to find me 8) I wasn't aware off the top of my head... > > if (id_p->id_id == list->device->id_id) > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > You appear to have managed to set the changed flag on a PCI device. This > code is not protected from that (it should be). I don't think i've fiddled with the PCI stuff, this machine doesn't have PCI. Maybe accidentally, but hey!, then we'll get dozens of questions about it. :-) > Here is a patch (warning, snarf-n-barf tab damage): I'll try. This requires a new boot floppy... or perhaps i'll try it with the hard disk kernel first. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 4 00:27:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA07021 for current-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 00:27:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA06965 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 00:27:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id JAA20275; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:26:37 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id JAA17471; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:26:37 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.2/8.6.9) id JAA04343; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:25:25 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199611040825.JAA04343@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: CTM update 2660 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:25:25 +0100 (MET) Cc: imp@village.org (Warner Losh) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: from Warner Losh at "Nov 3, 96 09:12:25 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Warner Losh wrote: > > Is in 82 parts? Why is that? What did I miss that was committed > recently? I thought I had already seen the 2.2 branch updates. > > Your in fear for his CVS tree, > > Warner > zmore /var/tmp/cvs-cur.2660.gz+001-082 CTM_BEGIN 2.0 cvs-cur 2660 19961103210001Z . CTMDM ports/games/xshisen 659 552 775 CTMDM ports/mail/poppassd 659 552 775 CTMDM ports/mail/poppassd/files 659 552 775 CTMDM ports/mail/poppassd/patches 659 552 775 CTMDM ports/mail/poppassd/pkg 659 552 775 CTMDM ports/print/virtualpaper/patches 636 552 775 CTMDM ports/x11/filerunner 659 552 775 CTMDM ports/x11/filerunner/files 659 552 775 CTMDM ports/x11/filerunner/patches 659 552 775 CTMDM ports/x11/filerunner/pkg 659 552 775 CTMDM src/contrib/gdb 577 552 775 CTMDM src/contrib/gdb/bfd 577 552 775 CTMDM src/contrib/gdb/bfd/doc 577 552 775 CTMDM src/contrib/gdb/bfd/hosts 577 552 775 CTMDM src/contrib/gdb/config 577 552 775 CTMDM src/contrib/gdb/etc 577 552 775 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The new gdb is coming... -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 4 00:38:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA08465 for current-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 00:38:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA08449 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 00:37:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id TAA14619; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 19:06:15 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199611040836.TAA14619@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: 2.2 release cycle: userconfig problem To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 19:06:14 +1030 (CST) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au In-Reply-To: <199611040821.JAA04246@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at Nov 4, 96 09:21:58 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk J Wunsch stands accused of saying: > > > > While installing my pre-release of 2.2, i've just got a panic when > > > finishing UserConfig. Are there any experts for UserConfig around? > > > > Err, you should know where to find me 8) > > I wasn't aware off the top of my head... Third line of sys/i386/i386/userconfig.c, or msmith@freebsd.org 8) > I don't think i've fiddled with the PCI stuff, this machine doesn't > have PCI. Maybe accidentally, but hey!, then we'll get dozens of > questions about it. :-) I can't see any other way of getting a NULL for the device pointer. If you can reproduce it, a kernel and matching core would be helpful 8) > I'll try. This requires a new boot floppy... or perhaps i'll try it > with the hard disk kernel first. Definitely. There _should_ be no difference. > cheers, J"org -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 4 03:58:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA02476 for current-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 03:58:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from box.satech.net.au (root@box.satech.net.au [203.0.179.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA02464 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 03:58:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from matte.satech.net.au (matte.satech.net.au [203.1.91.219]) by box.satech.net.au (8.7.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA24846; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 22:28:55 +1030 Received: from matte.satech.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by matte.satech.net.au (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA00423; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 22:16:50 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <327DD0A1.167EB0E7@satech.net.au> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 22:16:49 +1100 From: Matthew Thyer X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01b1Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Veggy Vinny CC: scrappy@ki.net, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ncrcontrol in -current References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have recently built the world from ctm-src-current and have no problems with ncrcontrol. My /usr/src was created in a new filesystem (mounted on /usr/src) from the src-cur.1900A.gz base delta with deltas from 1901 to 2354 applied after that. newfs /dev/rsd0e mount /dev/sd0e /usr/src cd /usr/src ctm -v /usr/CTM/src-cur/src-cur.1900A.gz |& tee CTM1900.log ctm -v /usr/CTM/src-cur/src-cur.????.gz |& tee CTM1901-2354.log make -DNOCLEANDIR world |& tee WORLD.log <8 hours passes on my P90 with /usr/src on some old 305 MB SCSI drive> Veggy Vinny wrote: > > On Sun, 3 Nov 1996, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > > On Sun, 3 Nov 1996, Veggy Vinny wrote: > > > > > the ncrcontrol program seems to not work in -current after I > > > rebuilt the binary just to confirm this. > > > > > > root@bigbang [4:07pm] [~]>> ncrcontrol > > > > > > ncrcontrol: incompatible with kernel. Rebuild! > > > > > > > Is this after a 'make world'? > > yes, I did a make world and it completed then rebuilt the kernel > and rebooted... > > Vince > GaiaNet Corporation - Unix Networking Operations - GUS Mailing Lists Admin -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Matthew Thyer matt@spirit.com.au ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "If it is true that our Universe has a zero net value for all conserved quantities, then it may simply be a fluctuation of the vacuum of some larger space in which our Universe is imbedded. In answer to the question of why it happened, I offer the modest proposal that our Universe is simply one of those things which happen from time to time." E. P. 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For example, see: http://www.usps.gov/websites/depart/inspect/chainlet.htm From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 4 06:25:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA19447 for current-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 06:25:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from bacall.lodgenet.com (bacall.lodgenet.com [205.138.147.242]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA19436; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 06:25:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by bacall.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA21181; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 08:22:39 -0600 Received: from garbo.lodgenet.com(204.124.123.250) by bacall via smap (V1.3) id sma021178; Mon Nov 4 08:22:33 1996 Received: from jake.lodgenet.com (jake.lodgenet.com [10.0.11.30]) by garbo.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA09655; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 08:22:40 -0600 Received: from jake.lodgenet.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jake.lodgenet.com (8.7.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA05866; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 08:22:39 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199611041422.IAA05866@jake.lodgenet.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Thomas Gellekum cc: ports@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu, jmz@freebsd.org, wollman@freebsd.org, asami@freebsd.org, mr@freebsd.org, jkh@freebsd.org, pst@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tcl/tk based ports based on obsolete stuff In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 04 Nov 1996 08:06:35 +0100." <199611040706.IAA16042@ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 08:22:38 -0600 From: "Eric L. Hernes" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thomas Gellekum writes: >Satoshi Asami wrote: >> A followup on this: >> >> misc/ctk/Makefile tcl7.4 thomas@ghpc8.ihf.rwth-aachen.de > >I'll mark it broken. CTk uses tcl7.4 internals everywhere and there >are too many changes from tcl7.4 to 7.5 to make an upgrade easy. > I've got a set of patches from the author that upgrades it to 7.6/4.2. Or maybe sent to the author, but not written by the author, or something. I've backed it up to our builtin tcl7.5, but it's got some bad memory leaks/bounds type problems. For example shared objects that work fine under tclsh and wish4.1 dump core under cwish :( I can commit it or pass the torch on to someone else if they'd like a crack at it. >tg > eric. -- erich@lodgenet.com http://rrnet.com/~erich erich@rrnet.com From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 4 08:05:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA27168 for current-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 08:05:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA27158; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 08:05:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id KAA05135; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 10:04:37 -0600 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199611041604.KAA05135@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: Request to add this to FAQ re: swap space To: bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 10:04:36 -0600 (CST) Cc: bde@zeta.org.au, jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG, dtc@scrooge.ee.swin.oz.au, dyson@FreeBSD.ORG, gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG, rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com In-Reply-To: <199611021739.EAA18869@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from "Bruce Evans" at Nov 3, 96 04:39:48 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >> Don't change MSG_BSIZE. Allocation of vm for it is broken except for > >> the default size. > > > >Hmmmmmmmm.... well I've been running with that for quite some time... > >set to 16K instead of 4K. > > This causes 3 semi-random active pages to be mapped to the end of the > message buffer. How to fix? Nobody mentioned this problem back in February when I originally brought it up (see the hackers thread with Subject: "Latest 2.1R panic. Hmm.") and got ack's from folks like David Greenman, Gary Palmer, Poul-Henning Kamp, and Jonathan Bresler as a desirable thing to be able to do. Thanks, ... JG From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 4 08:31:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA00516 for current-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 08:31:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA00496; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 08:30:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.7.6/8.6.9) id DAA00755; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 03:28:30 +1100 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 03:28:30 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199611041628.DAA00755@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: bde@zeta.org.au, jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com Subject: Re: Request to add this to FAQ re: swap space Cc: current@freebsd.org, dtc@scrooge.ee.swin.oz.au, dyson@freebsd.org, gpalmer@freebsd.org, rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> >> Don't change MSG_BSIZE. Allocation of vm for it is broken except for >> >> the default size. >> > >> >Hmmmmmmmm.... well I've been running with that for quite some time... >> >set to 16K instead of 4K. >> >> This causes 3 semi-random active pages to be mapped to the end of the >> message buffer. > >How to fix? I fixed it a while ago and have been waiting for it to be reviewed. >Nobody mentioned this problem back in February when I originally brought >it up (see the hackers thread with Subject: "Latest 2.1R panic. Hmm.") That's because apparently nobody knew about the bug then. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 4 08:36:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA00846 for current-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 08:36:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.webspan.net (mail.webspan.net [206.154.70.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA00841; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 08:36:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from orion.webspan.net (orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.5]) by mail.webspan.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA28683; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 11:34:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from orion.webspan.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.webspan.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA03742; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 11:34:47 -0500 (EST) To: Bruce Evans cc: jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com, current@freebsd.org, dtc@scrooge.ee.swin.oz.au, dyson@freebsd.org, rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Request to add this to FAQ re: swap space In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 05 Nov 1996 03:28:30 +1100." <199611041628.DAA00755@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 11:34:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3740.847125287@orion.webspan.net> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Bruce Evans wrote in message ID <199611041628.DAA00755@godzilla.zeta.org.au>: > >How to fix? > > I fixed it a while ago and have been waiting for it to be reviewed. Wild guess: there's a bit of code in pmap.c which assumes you only want one page for the kernel message buffers? I noticed that when Joe asked, but never got around to writing a fix. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 4 09:31:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA05636 for current-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:31:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (root@mexico.brainstorm.fr [193.56.58.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA05609 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:31:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (brasil.brainstorm.fr [193.56.58.33]) by mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA14272 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 18:31:18 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id SAA22714 for current@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 18:31:03 +0100 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.8.2/keltia-uucp-2.9) id HAA02062; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 07:45:45 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199611040645.HAA02062@keltia.freenix.fr> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 07:45:45 +0100 From: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: CTM update 2660 References: X-Mailer: Mutt 0.49.07 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT ctm#2632 In-Reply-To: ; from Warner Losh on Nov 3, 1996 21:12:25 -0700 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Warner Losh: > Is in 82 parts? Why is that? What did I miss that was committed > recently? I thought I had already seen the 2.2 branch updates. gdb 4.13 from gnu/usr.bin/ --> Attic gdb 4.16 into contrib/ -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #26: Sun Oct 27 19:39:11 MET 1996 From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 4 11:23:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA15999 for current-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 11:23:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.crl.com (mail.crl.com [165.113.1.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA15989; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 11:23:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA04258 (5.65c/IDA-1.5); Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:23:59 -0700 Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id NAA05432; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:09:59 -0600 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199611041909.NAA05432@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: Request to add this to FAQ re: swap space To: bde@zeta.org.au (Bruce Evans) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:09:59 -0600 (CST) Cc: bde@zeta.org.au, jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG, dtc@scrooge.ee.swin.oz.au, dyson@FreeBSD.ORG, gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG, rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com In-Reply-To: <199611041628.DAA00755@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from "Bruce Evans" at Nov 5, 96 03:28:30 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >How to fix? > > I fixed it a while ago and have been waiting for it to be reviewed. > > >Nobody mentioned this problem back in February when I originally brought > >it up (see the hackers thread with Subject: "Latest 2.1R panic. Hmm.") > > That's because apparently nobody knew about the bug then. Well I _figured_ that much! :-) :-) I was trying to point out that this was sort of a popular request. ... JG From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 4 11:49:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA21129 for current-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 11:49:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA20819; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 11:48:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id UAA23497; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 20:47:49 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id UAA00343; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 20:47:43 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.2/8.6.9) id UAA20454; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 20:40:50 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199611041940.UAA20454@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Request to add this to FAQ re: swap space To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 20:40:49 +0100 (MET) Cc: jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com, dyson@FreeBSD.org, davidg@FreeBSD.org (David Greenman) In-Reply-To: <199611041628.DAA00755@godzilla.zeta.org.au> from Bruce Evans at "Nov 5, 96 03:28:30 am" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Bruce Evans wrote: > >How to fix? > > I fixed it a while ago and have been waiting for it to be reviewed. Confirmation: works fine for me. Should be committed. Seems that John is too busy with his contigmalloc to review it, David, do you have a chance to have a look at it? -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 4 12:03:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA22966 for current-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:03:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA22960 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:03:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (richardc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA21878; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:03:23 -0800 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:03:22 -0800 (PST) From: Veggy Vinny To: Matthew Thyer cc: scrappy@ki.net, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ncrcontrol in -current In-Reply-To: <327DD0A1.167EB0E7@satech.net.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 4 Nov 1996, Matthew Thyer wrote: > I have recently built the world from ctm-src-current and have no > problems with ncrcontrol. My /usr/src was created in a new > filesystem (mounted on /usr/src) from the src-cur.1900A.gz base > delta with deltas from 1901 to 2354 applied after that. I am cvsup'ing the -current tree and I did a make clean cleandir before I did a make world and built the kernel after the make world was completed. It seems neither of the systems ncrcontrol works, both of them says that ncrcontrol is incompatible and to rebuild the kernel. Vince GaiaNet Corporation - Unix Networking Operations - GUS Mailing Lists Admin From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 4 12:46:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA26443 for current-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:46:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from Octopussy.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (Octopussy.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.166.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA26391 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:46:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (annexr2-40.slip.Uni-Koeln.DE) by Octopussy.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE with SMTP id AA09645 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 4 Nov 1996 21:36:10 +0100 Received: (from se@localhost) by x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (8.8.2/8.6.9) id VAA02139; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 21:36:10 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199611042036.VAA02139@x14.mi.uni-koeln.de> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 21:36:10 +0100 From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) To: richardc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (Veggy Vinny) Cc: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch), freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Subject: Re: ncrcontrol in -current In-Reply-To: ; from Veggy Vinny on Nov 3, 1996 16:47:48 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Mutt 0.45 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Veggy Vinny writes: > > > On Mon, 4 Nov 1996, J Wunsch wrote: > > > As Veggy Vinny wrote: > > > > > the ncrcontrol program seems to not work in -current after I > > > rebuilt the binary just to confirm this. > > > > > > root@bigbang [4:07pm] [~]>> ncrcontrol > > > > > > ncrcontrol: incompatible with kernel. Rebuild! > > > > Mine is working. Both, /kernel and /usr/sbin/ncrcontrol are dated > > Oct 28. > > Mines are dated November 3. The reason for a mismatch (if both ncrcontrol and the kernel were in fact built from corresponding sources) is that you specified some kernel config option (i.e. the maximum number of LUNs or TAGs) that have not become visible to the build process for ncrcontrol. So, please add those kernel options to the ncrcontrol Makefile and rebuilt ncrcontrol, if that might be the cause of your problem. I'm going to make ncrcontrol find all the parameters by some other means (not from compile time options, that is :), but this is not on top of my ToDo list ... Rgeards, STefan From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 4 13:02:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA27995 for current-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:02:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from Octopussy.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (Octopussy.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.166.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA27961; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:02:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (annexr2-40.slip.Uni-Koeln.DE) by Octopussy.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE with SMTP id AA10141 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Mon, 4 Nov 1996 22:02:03 +0100 Received: (from se@localhost) by x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (8.8.2/8.6.9) id WAA02207; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 22:02:03 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199611042102.WAA02207@x14.mi.uni-koeln.de> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 22:02:03 +0100 From: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) To: dyson@FreeBSD.org Cc: gibbs@freefall.freebsd.org (Justin T. Gibbs), dyson@FreeBSD.org, current@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Possible SCSI instability coming to a current near you. In-Reply-To: <199611040303.WAA07819@dyson.iquest.net>; from John S. Dyson on Nov 3, 1996 22:03:34 -0500 References: <199611040303.WAA07819@dyson.iquest.net> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.45 Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk John S. Dyson writes: > > > > >Is the NCR stuff in sync now? > > > > > >John > > > > The NCR stuff should work just fine - tagged queueing even. > > Of course I don't have an NCR adapter here to test with... > > > I guess that I'll be one of the gunea-pigs!!! I'm running the NCR with Justins driver for a week now, and it works fine so far (survives a make world with no sign of problems :) But I had to disable tagged command queues, since I did not have the time to make them work in the new framework. (Its not a problem with Justins code, just an integration problem in the NCR driver, and I will look into this as soon as I have a few free hours to spend ...) Regards, STefan From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 4 13:11:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA28336 for current-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:11:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA28330; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:11:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611042111.NAA28330@freefall.freebsd.org> To: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de (Stefan Esser) cc: dyson@FreeBSD.org, current@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Possible SCSI instability coming to a current near you. In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 04 Nov 1996 22:02:03 +0100." <199611042102.WAA02207@x14.mi.uni-koeln.de> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 13:11:21 -0800 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >But I had to disable tagged command queues, since I did >not have the time to make them work in the new framework. >(Its not a problem with Justins code, just an integration >problem in the NCR driver, and I will look into this as >soon as I have a few free hours to spend ...) > >Regards, STefan I fixed the tagged queueing problem in the NCR driver with an interface change I had planned to make for quite some time. You'll have the chance to verify it latetr tonight. 8-) BTW, I added some XXX comments in the driver to document places where some of the new features of the generic SCSI layer could be utilized. -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 4 13:19:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA28729 for current-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:19:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from vector.jhs.no_domain (slip139-92-18-174.pt.uk.ibm.net [139.92.18.174]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA28705; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 13:19:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from vector.jhs.no_domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vector.jhs.no_domain (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA07864; Sat, 2 Nov 1996 15:59:59 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199611021459.PAA07864@vector.jhs.no_domain> To: asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi Asami) cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: src/games/piano From: "Julian H. Stacey" Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" X-Organization: Vector Systems Ltd. X-Mailer: EXMH 1.6.7, PGP available X-Address: Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany X-Phone: +49.89.268616 X-Fax: +49.89.2608126 X-ISDN: +49.89.26023276 (soon) X-Web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 01 Nov 1996 01:29:38 PST." <199611010929.BAA19472@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 15:59:57 +0100 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Reference: > From: asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi Asami) > Subject: Re: src/games/piano > > * Bloat Alert ... src/games/piano should be moved to ports/[games/piano]. > * Piano is not even in 4.4BSD-Lite CD-ROM. > > Boy is this a major bloat or what. 132 Kilobytes of src/games bloat. Besides piano/, new non 4.4 CD-ROM games/ bloat includes: bs/ grdc/ primes/, (Addmitedly grdc & primes are utils, but not essential, all could go in ports) du -s -k bs/ grdc/ primes/ piano/ 31 bs/ 7 grdc/ 87 primes/ 7 piano/ > === > >> ls /usr/src/games/piano > total 7 > 1 CVS/ 1 Makefile 1 README 1 piano.6 3 piano.c > === > > There aren't many source modules that are smaller than ports > skeletons. Congratulations, you just won the "most relevant post of > the day" award! > > Satoshi > > P.S. My /usr/src/games/piano is 11KB, my /usr/ports/games/xroach is > 29KB. It hurts when you use CVS because there would be 4KB CVS > subdirectories for each directory (there are at least 3 if it's a > port). The reason for FreeBSD src/games/ was (till now): ~It's in UCB/BSD, & we don't want to ship a BSD subset~ however non BSD additions are normally debated before inclusion, maybe src/games & obj games will continue to bloat unless a line is drawn ? Julian -- Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 4 15:14:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA10743 for current-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:14:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10737; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:14:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.6/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA27220; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:11:26 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611042311.PAA27220@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: J Wunsch cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users), jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com, dyson@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Request to add this to FAQ re: swap space In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 04 Nov 1996 20:40:49 +0100." <199611041940.UAA20454@uriah.heep.sax.de> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 15:11:25 -0800 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >As Bruce Evans wrote: > >> >How to fix? >> >> I fixed it a while ago and have been waiting for it to be reviewed. > >Confirmation: works fine for me. Should be committed. Seems that >John is too busy with his contigmalloc to review it, David, do you >have a chance to have a look at it? Yes, send me a copy of it. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 4 15:15:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA10833 for current-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:15:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from trout.nosc.mil (trout.nosc.mil [128.49.16.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA10824 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:15:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from cod.nosc.mil by trout.nosc.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09797; Mon, 4 Nov 96 15:15:51 PST Received: from [128.49.16.48] (aegis.nosc.mil) by cod.nosc.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13281; Mon, 4 Nov 96 15:15:48 PST X-Sender: gshaffer@cod.nosc.mil Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:15:54 -0800 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Greg Shaffer Subject: 3Com 3C905-TX Support Cc: gshaffer@nosc.mil Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does FreeBSD support (or plan to) the 3Com 3C905-TX (10/100 NIC)? The release notes for 2.1.5R or the latest 10/14 snapshot don't list this card. Thanks Greg Shaffer From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 4 15:45:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA13399 for current-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:45:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from vinyl.quickweb.com (vinyl.quickweb.com [206.222.77.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA13384; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 15:45:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (mark@localhost) by vinyl.quickweb.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA25563; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 18:42:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 18:42:20 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Mayo To: Terry Lambert cc: Warner Losh , jmb@freefall.freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /usr/obj size In-Reply-To: <199611032116.OAA03231@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 3 Nov 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: > > However, one thing is clear: You need about 1.5G of disk space to have > > an effective development machine. I have 2.25G on my machine, and > > things get a little cramped when I try to do both OpenBSD things and > > FreeBSD things at the same time. > > Amen. I have 3G on this box, and I do FreeBSD, FreeBSD + Terry, > FreeBSD + SMP, and OpenBSD. It's still quite cramped. Hmmm, I only have ~600MB for my FreeBSD partition. But the good news is that I managed to move as much as I could (/home, etc..) into the zip, leaing me with ~118MB free after the new supof the src tree. A quick note on that point: nowhere on the freebsd web pages does it mention that the src-contrib delta is onw part of the CVS tree... Of course, I just fired off the cvsup-file from ftp.freebsd.org, after adding the tag=RELENG_2_2 and there was no src-contrib line. I quickly figured it out after the make world failed trying to cleandir /usr/src/contrib (which didn't exisit on my August SNAP). Obvious problem, but if I hadn't been paying attention to the -current news I maybe wouldn't have guessed.. On the topic of hard-disks, I obviously need a new one, so what do you all recomend for a FAST-SCSI-2 drive. I just have an NCR c810 controller, so I don't need the Ultra-Wide stuff. My local store is telling me that a 2GB Quantum Atlas is about $900 CDN!!! And his price on a Seagate Hawk 2.1GB is $700. Seems high to me, and I remember Terry and others debating the equal cost of IDE and SCSI a while ago.. The exchange rate is about 0.76 right now, so my local guy wants about $500 US for the Hawk. Like I said, seems high.. Oh, I can't forget to say thanks to John Polstra, the CVSup utility is amazing!! The entire process only took about 1.5 hours to get the new tree (including the contrib stuff) over a 33.6 modem! Wow. TIA, -Mark ------------------------------------------- | Mark Mayo mark@quickweb.com | | RingZero Comp. www.quickweb.com | ------------------------------------------- "To iterate is human, to recurse divine." - L. Peter Deutsch > > I'm waiting for the 24G drives to catch on so that the 9G prices > drop. 8-). > > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers. > From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 4 16:18:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA15872 for current-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 16:18:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA15864 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 16:18:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (richardc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA03812; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 16:18:38 -0800 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 16:18:37 -0800 (PST) From: Veggy Vinny To: Stefan Esser cc: Joerg Wunsch , FreeBSD-current users Subject: Re: ncrcontrol in -current In-Reply-To: <199611042036.VAA02139@x14.mi.uni-koeln.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 4 Nov 1996, Stefan Esser wrote: > The reason for a mismatch (if both ncrcontrol and the kernel > were in fact built from corresponding sources) is that you > specified some kernel config option (i.e. the maximum number > of LUNs or TAGs) that have not become visible to the build > process for ncrcontrol. Hmmm, okay... > So, please add those kernel options to the ncrcontrol Makefile > and rebuilt ncrcontrol, if that might be the cause of your > problem. Oh okay but I know I don't have any kernel options relating to the ncr since the other machines use Adaptec 2940W controllers and not the NCR-810. > I'm going to make ncrcontrol find all the parameters by some > other means (not from compile time options, that is :), but > this is not on top of my ToDo list ... Hmmm, that would be a good idea :) Vince GaiaNet Corporation - Unix Networking Operations - GUS Mailing Lists Admin From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 4 17:21:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA18990 for current-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 17:21:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from nexgen.n4hhe.ampr.org (max1-154.HiWAAY.net [206.104.21.154]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA18980 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 17:20:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dkelly@localhost) by nexgen.n4hhe.ampr.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA20384; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 19:20:41 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.5-alpha [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 19:13:37 -0600 (CST) Organization: Amateur Radio N4HHE, Madison, AL. From: David Kelly To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: panic: page fault Cc: "Philippe Charnier" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 23:14:42 David Kelly wrote: >> >On 03:17:06 "Philippe Charnier" wrote: >>>Hello, >> >>I got this with a current kernel (last friday, cvs-cur #2646). >> >>Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode >>fault virtual address = 0x1000024 >>fault code = supervisor read, page not present >>instruction pointer = 0x8:0xf01ba1a3 >>stack pointer = 0x10:0xf01daff4 >>frame pointer = 0x10:0xf01daff8 >>code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b >> = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 >>processor eflags = resume, IOPL = 0 >>current process = Idle >>interrupt mask = >>panic: page fault > >I've been getting similar, but not been saving the crash files. >Last week I upgraded from a 486DX33 ISA w/ 8M to 486/133 PCI w/ [snip] An update: Yanked the 256k cache stick they charged me $17 for, FreeBSD 2.2-current works perfecly now on both IDE and SCSI. However "gunzip -t src-cur.2300A.gz" now takes 61 seconds when it took 55 before. I thought those chips on the motherboard labled, "Write Back Cache" looked bogus. AMI BIOS now reports, "Write Back Cache Enabled" when before it said "256k cache" with the cache stick in place. Guess I should expect such with $200 of memory, and $150 SCSI card, on a $65 motherboard. :-) -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@tomcat1.tbe.com (wk), dkelly@hiwaay.net (hm) ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 4 18:48:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA22918 for current-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 18:48:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.crl.com (mail.crl.com [165.113.1.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA22784 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 18:47:10 -0800 (PST) From: sthaug@nethelp.no Received: from verdi.nethelp.no by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA04301 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 4 Nov 1996 19:48:13 -0700 Received: (qmail 2733 invoked by uid 1001); 5 Nov 1996 02:43:43 +0000 (GMT) To: richardc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU Cc: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de, joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ncrcontrol in -current In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 4 Nov 1996 16:18:37 -0800 (PST)" References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05+ on Emacs 19.28.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 05 Nov 1996 03:43:43 +0100 Message-Id: <2731.847161823@verdi.nethelp.no> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > The reason for a mismatch (if both ncrcontrol and the kernel > > were in fact built from corresponding sources) is that you > > specified some kernel config option (i.e. the maximum number > > of LUNs or TAGs) that have not become visible to the build > > process for ncrcontrol. > > Hmmm, okay... > > > So, please add those kernel options to the ncrcontrol Makefile > > and rebuilt ncrcontrol, if that might be the cause of your > > problem. > > Oh okay but I know I don't have any kernel options relating to the > ncr since the other machines use Adaptec 2940W controllers and not the > NCR-810. Do you have FAILSAFE? That one bit me. It *does* influence max # of LUNs/tags. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 4 18:53:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA23116 for current-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 18:53:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.crl.com (mail.crl.com [165.113.1.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA23111 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 18:53:09 -0800 (PST) From: sthaug@nethelp.no Received: from verdi.nethelp.no by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA05426 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 4 Nov 1996 19:52:38 -0700 Received: (qmail 2755 invoked by uid 1001); 5 Nov 1996 02:49:24 +0000 (GMT) To: mark@quickweb.com Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /usr/obj size In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 4 Nov 1996 18:42:20 -0500 (EST)" References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05+ on Emacs 19.28.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 05 Nov 1996 03:49:24 +0100 Message-Id: <2753.847162164@verdi.nethelp.no> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On the topic of hard-disks, I obviously need a new one, so what do you all > recomend for a FAST-SCSI-2 drive. I just have an NCR c810 controller, so I > don't need the Ultra-Wide stuff. My local store is telling me that a 2GB > Quantum Atlas is about $900 CDN!!! And his price on a Seagate Hawk 2.1GB > is $700. Seems high to me, and I remember Terry and others debating the > equal cost of IDE and SCSI a while ago.. The exchange rate is about 0.76 > right now, so my local guy wants about $500 US for the Hawk. Like I said, > seems high.. You might want to check the IBM DORS-32160 2 GB if you can find them. They are less than two thirds of the price of the Atlas here in Norway. I have two of them, and are very happy with price and performance so far. At least here in Norway SCSI is definitely more expensive than IDE (about 30% more). I tend to stick with SCSI because I regard the technology as much better than IDE. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 4 20:12:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA28563 for current-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 20:12:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au (rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au [129.78.129.109]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA28542 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 20:12:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dawes@localhost) by rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA04097 for current@freebsd.org; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 15:12:29 +1100 From: David Dawes Message-Id: <199611050412.PAA04097@rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au> Subject: Timeout problem with SDT-4000 DAT and AHC To: current@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 15:12:29 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I recently installed 2.2-961014-SNAP on a Pentium 166 with three PCI Adaptec controllers (one on-board AIC7870 and two 2940AU cards). Everything is working fine except for a Sony SDT-4000 DAT drive which is connected to one of the cards, and it is the only device on that SCSI bus. The boot (-v) messages for this card/drive are: ahc2 rev 1 int a irq 5 on pci0:7 mapreg[10] type=1 addr=00008800 size=0100. mapreg[14] type=0 addr=c0002000 size=1000. reg16: ioaddr=0x8800 size=0x100 reg20: virtual=0xf6ca2000 physical=0xc0002000 size=0x1000 using shared irq 5. ahc2: Reading SEEPROM...done. ahc2: aic7860 Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 3 SCBs ahc2: Downloading Sequencer Program...Done ahc2: Probing channel A Choosing drivers for scbus configured at 2 ahc2 waiting for scsi devices to settle ahc2: target 4 synchronous at 5.0MHz, offset = 0x7 (ahc2:4:0): "SONY SDT-4000 2.09" type 1 removable SCSI 2 st0(ahc2:4:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x13, 512-byte blocks, write-enabled When I try to access the drive, for example, with 'mt -f /dev/nrst0 stat', it sits there for a while, then the following appears on the console: st0(ahc2:4:0): timed out in dataout phase, SCSISIGI == 0x0 st0(ahc2:4:0): BUS DEVICE RESET message queued. Bus Device Reset Message Sent st0(ahc2:4:0): timed out in message out phase, SCSISIGI == 0xa4 ahc2: Issued Channel A Bus Reset #1. 1 SCBs aborted Sometimes it gets into a state where it works properly for a bit, but I haven't found a repeatable way of doing this, and it doesn't stay that way for long. I've tried two of these drives, and see the same behaviour with both. I've also tried connecting it to the other 2940AU (which also has a couple of 4GB Barracudas connected), and see the same thing. I've also tried different cables and terminators, with no change. This morning I checked out the RELENG_2_2 branch, and did a 'make world' and installed a new kernel. I still see the same problem, but the messages are a little bit different: st0(ahc2:4:0): timed out in dataout phase, SCSISIGI == 0x0 st0(ahc2:4:0): timed out in dataout phase, SCSISIGI == 0x0 ahc2: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 1 SCBs aborted Anyone have any ideas about this, or suggestions for things to try? David From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 4 20:19:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA29207 for current-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 20:19:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from dyson.iquest.net ([198.70.144.127]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA29192 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 20:19:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id XAA00188 for current@freebsd.org; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 23:19:12 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199611050419.XAA00188@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Please test the new contigmalloc To: current@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 23:19:10 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: dyson@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is to let you know that there is a new contigmalloc committed tonight. This new code increases dramatically the probability that a sound driver or it's like can be loaded at bootup time after the system starts, and on large systems might even be able to be loaded sometime after bootup time. Specifically, it is best to load the sound LKM *IMMEDIATELY* after the mount of the root filesystem. Also, there are still problems on systems < 8MBytes with this new code, in that the driver might not get enough memory in that case. It appears that just after the mount of root and swap space, the new contigmalloc will succeed for a 64K allocation. Perhaps it would be wise to back-off to a smaller allocation upon an allocation failure. In the case of failure, the major thing that still should be done is that the buffer cache should probably be minimized. Otherwise, this code does about as much as can be done given the current architecture of page allocation. John From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 4 20:40:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA01605 for current-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 20:40:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.crl.com (mail.crl.com [165.113.1.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA01597; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 20:40:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from freenet.hamilton.on.ca (main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA06245 (5.65c/IDA-1.5); Mon, 4 Nov 1996 19:56:03 -0700 Received: from james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.66]) by freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA14193; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 21:43:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ac199@localhost) by james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA12360; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 21:45:28 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca: ac199 owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 21:45:27 -0500 (EST) From: Tim Vanderhoek To: "Julian H. Stacey" Cc: Satoshi Asami , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: src/games/piano In-Reply-To: <199611021459.PAA07864@vector.jhs.no_domain> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 2 Nov 1996, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > 132 Kilobytes of src/games bloat. > Besides piano/, new non 4.4 CD-ROM games/ bloat includes: bs/ grdc/ primes/, > (Addmitedly grdc & primes are utils, but not essential, all could go in ports) I would suggest that `primes' has potential use in shell scripts, which wouldn't work so well in a port. > du -s -k bs/ grdc/ primes/ piano/ > 31 bs/ > 7 grdc/ > 87 primes/ > 7 piano/ OTOH, it is the largest of those listed. -- Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! tIM...HOEk From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 4 21:08:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA03852 for current-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 21:08:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA03846 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 21:08:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jkh@localhost) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) id VAA15391 for current@freebsd.org; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 21:08:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 21:08:04 -0800 (PST) From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Message-Id: <199611050508.VAA15391@time.cdrom.com> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: HUH?! Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk gzip -c /a/src/libexec/rpc.rstatd/rpc.rstatd.8 > rpc.rstatd.8.gz ===> libexec/rpc.rusersd cc -O2 -pipe -DXIDLE -c /a/src/libexec/rpc.rusersd/rusersd.c cc -O2 -pipe -DXIDLE -c /a/src/libexec/rpc.rusersd/rusers_proc.c cc -O2 -pipe -DXIDLE -o rpc.rusersd rusersd.o rusers_proc.o -lrpcsvc -lutil -L/usr/X386/lib -lXext -lX11 ld: -lXext: no match *** Error code 1 Stop. Since when was rpc.rusersd an X application?! In any case, it was done incorrectly and with the old paths to X, not the current ones. I'll commit a fix, but this whole change has me seriously concerned. Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 4 22:04:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA07707 for current-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 22:04:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx.serv.net (mx.serv.net [199.201.191.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA07684; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 22:04:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from MindBender.serv.net by mx.serv.net (8.7.5/SERV Revision: 2.30) id WAA11365; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 22:04:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.serv.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA11992; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 22:03:50 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611050603.WAA11992@MindBender.serv.net> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.serv.net: Host michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Mark Mayo cc: Terry Lambert , Warner Losh , jmb@freefall.freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /usr/obj size In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 04 Nov 96 18:42:20 -0500. Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 22:03:49 -0800 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >On the topic of hard-disks, I obviously need a new one, so what do you all >recomend for a FAST-SCSI-2 drive. I just have an NCR c810 controller, so I >don't need the Ultra-Wide stuff. My local store is telling me that a 2GB >Quantum Atlas is about $900 CDN!!! And his price on a Seagate Hawk 2.1GB >is $700. Seems high to me, and I remember Terry and others debating the >equal cost of IDE and SCSI a while ago.. The exchange rate is about 0.76 >right now, so my local guy wants about $500 US for the Hawk. Like I said, >seems high.. The IBM drives are very reasonable right now. Check out http://www.basoncomputer.com/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@MindBender.serv.net --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 4 22:45:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA09804 for current-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 22:45:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA09798; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 22:45:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (richardc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA06435; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 22:45:46 -0800 Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 22:45:45 -0800 (PST) From: Veggy Vinny To: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" cc: Mark Mayo , Terry Lambert , Warner Losh , jmb@freefall.freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /usr/obj size In-Reply-To: <199611050603.WAA11992@MindBender.serv.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On the topic of hard disks, what are the minimum requirements to run a FreeBSD machine as a news server with a full news feed in terms of CPU, memory, HD Storage and does it have to be on several HD instead of multiple large capacity drives such as 9 gig drives? Vince GaiaNet Corporation - Unix Networking Operations - GUS Mailing Lists Admin From owner-freebsd-current Mon Nov 4 23:53:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA13978 for current-outgoing; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 23:53:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx.serv.net (mx.serv.net [199.201.191.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA13950; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 23:53:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from MindBender.serv.net by mx.serv.net (8.7.5/SERV Revision: 2.30) id XAA13918; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 23:53:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.serv.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA15011; Mon, 4 Nov 1996 23:52:45 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611050752.XAA15011@MindBender.serv.net> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.serv.net: Host michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Veggy Vinny cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /usr/obj size In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 04 Nov 96 22:45:45 -0800. Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 23:52:45 -0800 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On the topic of hard disks, what are the minimum requirements to >run a FreeBSD machine as a news server with a full news feed in terms of >CPU, memory, HD Storage and does it have to be on several HD instead of >multiple large capacity drives such as 9 gig drives? You'd serve yourself well to peruse http://www.freebsd.org/ and look for the newsgroup archives. Joe Greco, and others, have posted much invaluable information about running large news servers. My guess is that you'd want to start with the isp list, then maybe hackers and/or stable. Look specifically for posts from Joe Greco, as he has been the most vocal on this topic, lately. To get you started, he recommends many smaller drives, probably 2GB each, striped with ccd, across multiple SCSI controllers, if possible. NCR/Symbios 53c8xx cards or Adaptec 2940/3940 cards would work best (until the BusLogic driver gets tagged-command-queuing, at which time it theoretically should be as good as the other two). ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@MindBender.serv.net --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 5 00:04:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA14695 for current-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 00:04:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA14690; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 00:04:19 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611050804.AAA14690@freefall.freebsd.org> To: David Dawes cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Timeout problem with SDT-4000 DAT and AHC In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 05 Nov 1996 15:12:29 +1100." <199611050412.PAA04097@rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 1996 00:04:19 -0800 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Your problem may be related to some sync/wide negotiation problems I fixed in the driver tonight. Gary and Jordan have also reported some strange problems that I hope these changes fix too. I've decided to hold off on pulling the SCSI branch into -current until I get confirmation that the aic7xxx driver is again stable enough for 2.2 so that pulling bug fixes into the 2.2 branch is easy to do. Let me know... -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 5 00:23:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA15995 for current-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 00:23:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from ic.net (root@falcon.ic.net [152.160.101.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA15980 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 00:23:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from sesi.strelsys.com by ic.net with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0vKgmV-003Gi1C; Tue, 5 Nov 96 03:22 WET Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sesi.strelsys.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA27500 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 03:22:46 GMT Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 03:22:46 +0000 () From: Rick Lotoczky Reply-To: Rick Lotoczky Subject: -current compile problems To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi I have been having a problem since ~Oct 29th with -current compiling the tcl library. It seems that the two definitions DOMAIN and SING are not being defined correctly. If I compile the tcl stuff "standalone" (i.e. not part of make world), these definitions are correctly enabled. Under make world, I get an error that both DOMAIN and SING are undefined. I assume that the NEED_MATHERR switch is not getting set correctly when configure is run from make world. rick From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 5 01:42:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA22403 for current-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 01:42:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA22396 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 01:42:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (richardc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA16733; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 01:43:09 -0800 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 01:43:07 -0800 (PST) From: Veggy Vinny To: Rick Lotoczky cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -current compile problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Rick Lotoczky wrote: > I have been having a problem since ~Oct 29th with -current compiling the > tcl library. It seems that the two definitions DOMAIN and SING are not being > defined correctly. If I compile the tcl stuff "standalone" (i.e. not part of > make world), these definitions are correctly enabled. Under make world, I > get an error that both DOMAIN and SING are undefined. I assume that the > NEED_MATHERR switch is not getting set correctly when configure is run from > make world. I'm not having any problems at all building -current. I think you should do a make clean cleandir before you do a make world. That seems to have fixed my problems thanks to that suggestion from Bruce. Vince GaiaNet Corporation - Unix Networking Operations - GUS Mailing Lists Admin From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 5 03:16:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA25865 for current-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 03:16:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA25860 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 03:16:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (richardc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA18736; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 02:41:02 -0800 Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 02:41:00 -0800 (PST) From: Veggy Vinny To: sthaug@nethelp.no cc: se@zpr.uni-koeln.de, joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ncrcontrol in -current In-Reply-To: <2731.847161823@verdi.nethelp.no> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 5 Nov 1996 sthaug@nethelp.no wrote: > > > The reason for a mismatch (if both ncrcontrol and the kernel > > > were in fact built from corresponding sources) is that you > > > specified some kernel config option (i.e. the maximum number > > > of LUNs or TAGs) that have not become visible to the build > > > process for ncrcontrol. > > > > Hmmm, okay... > > > > > So, please add those kernel options to the ncrcontrol Makefile > > > and rebuilt ncrcontrol, if that might be the cause of your > > > problem. > > > > Oh okay but I know I don't have any kernel options relating to the > > ncr since the other machines use Adaptec 2940W controllers and not the > > NCR-810. > > Do you have FAILSAFE? That one bit me. It *does* influence max # of > LUNs/tags. I just tested it with both FAILSAFE and without FAILSAFE, you are correct that with FAILSAFE it won't work. Without FAILSAFE, ncrcontrol works fine but during bootup, I noticed lots of stuff about ncr that I'm pasting my dmesg output below so maybe Stefan can fix this: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Mon Nov 4 21:59:24 PST 1996 vince@bigbang.COSC.GOV:/usr/src/sys/compile/EINSTEIN Calibrating clock(s) relative to mc146818A clock ... i586 clock: 89807169 Hz, i8254 clock: 1193092 Hz CPU: Pentium (89.81-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x524 Stepping=4 Features=0x1bf real memory = 16777216 (16384K bytes) avail memory = 14266368 (13932K bytes) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0 rev 1 on pci0:0 chip1 rev 2 on pci0:7:0 chip2 rev 2 on pci0:7:1 vga0 rev 0 int a irq 12 on pci0:10 ncr0 rev 2 int a irq 12 on pci0:12 ncr0 waiting for scsi devices to settle (ncr0:0:0): "SEAGATE ST32550N 0022" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ncr0:0:0): Direct-Access sd0(ncr0:0:0): FAST SCSI-2 100ns (10 Mb/sec) offset 8. 2047MB (4194058 512 byte sectors) (ncr0:2:0): "QUANTUM EMPIRE_1080S 1100" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1(ncr0:2:0): Direct-Access sd1(ncr0:2:0): FAST SCSI-2 100ns (10 Mb/sec) offset 8. 1029MB (2109376 512 byte sectors) (ncr0:3:0): "SONY CD-ROM CDU-76S 1.1c" type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd0(ncr0:3:0): CD-ROM cd0(ncr0:3:0): 200ns (5 Mb/sec) offset 8. cd0(ncr0:3:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:28,0 cd0(ncr0:3:0): Not ready to ready transition, medium may have changed cd present [400000 x 2048 byte records] (ncr0:4:0): "HP C1750A 3125" type 3 fixed SCSI 1 uk0(ncr0:4:0): Unknown (ncr0:4:1): COMMAND FAILED (4 82) @f13d5b0c. (ncr0:4:1): COMMAND FAILED (4 82) @f13d5b0c. (ncr0:4:1): COMMAND FAILED (4 82) @f13d5b0c. (ncr0:4:2): COMMAND FAILED (4 82) @f13d5b0c. (ncr0:4:2): COMMAND FAILED (4 82) @f13d5b0c. (ncr0:4:2): COMMAND FAILED (4 82) @f13d5b0c. (ncr0:4:3): COMMAND FAILED (4 82) @f13d5b0c. (ncr0:4:3): COMMAND FAILED (4 82) @f13d5b0c. (ncr0:4:3): COMMAND FAILED (4 82) @f13d5b0c. (ncr0:4:4): COMMAND FAILED (4 82) @f13d5b0c. (ncr0:4:4): COMMAND FAILED (4 82) @f13d5b0c. (ncr0:4:4): COMMAND FAILED (4 82) @f13d5b0c. (ncr0:4:5): COMMAND FAILED (4 82) @f13d5b0c. (ncr0:4:5): COMMAND FAILED (4 82) @f13d5b0c. (ncr0:4:5): COMMAND FAILED (4 82) @f13d5b0c. (ncr0:4:6): COMMAND FAILED (4 82) @f13d5b0c. (ncr0:4:6): COMMAND FAILED (4 82) @f13d5b0c. (ncr0:4:6): COMMAND FAILED (4 82) @f13d5b0c. (ncr0:4:7): COMMAND FAILED (4 82) @f13d5b0c. (ncr0:4:7): COMMAND FAILED (4 82) @f13d5b0c. (ncr0:4:7): COMMAND FAILED (4 82) @f13d5b0c. Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 not found at 0x280 ed1 not found at 0x300 fe0 not found at 0x300 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A sio2: disabled, not probed. sio3: disabled, not probed. lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface lpt1 not found at 0xffffffff lpt2 not found at 0xffffffff mse0 not found at 0x23c psm0: disabled, not probed. pca0 on motherboard pca0: PC speaker audio driver fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.2MB 5.25in fd1: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 1916MB (3924144 sectors), 3893 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): wd1: 1223MB (2504880 sectors), 2485 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): wd2: 1549MB (3173184 sectors), 3148 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S 1 3C5x9 board(s) on ISA found at 0x300 ep0 at 0x300-0x30f irq 10 on isa ep0: aui/utp/bnc[*UTP*] address 00:60:8c:f3:3d:64 npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface apm0: disabled, not probed. Checking for GUS Plug-n-Play ... Board Vendor ID: GRV0001 Board Serial Number: 09000000 gus0 at 0x220 irq 11 drq 5 flags 0x7 on isa at 0x32c dma 7,5 at 0x220 irq 11 dma 5,7 joy0 at 0x201 on isa joy0: joystick Vince GaiaNet Corporation - Unix Networking Operations - GUS Mailing Lists Admin From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 5 09:34:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA11830 for current-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 09:34:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA11809; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 09:34:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id LAA06955; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 11:29:12 -0600 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199611051729.LAA06955@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: /usr/obj size To: richardc@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (Veggy Vinny) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 11:29:12 -0600 (CST) Cc: michaelv@MindBender.serv.net, mark@quickweb.com, terry@lambert.org, imp@village.org, jmb@freefall.freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Veggy Vinny" at Nov 4, 96 10:45:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On the topic of hard disks, what are the minimum requirements to > run a FreeBSD machine as a news server with a full news feed in terms of > CPU, memory, HD Storage and does it have to be on several HD instead of > multiple large capacity drives such as 9 gig drives? Vince, IMHO it depends on what you are going to do with the machine. Are you going to have lots of readers? Lots of inbound and/or outbound feeds? (Remember that many sites these days feed via "innfeed", and this counts as multiple feeds)... It also depends on how long you want to retain news, how many groups are in your active file (how "full" the feed is), whether or not you want to support other things on the system, etc. If you are going to have one user reading news and have a single inbound feed, sorted, held for half a week, and nothing else, you might be able to do it on a fairly skimpy system. My idea of fairly skimpy would be 486DX/133, 64MB RAM (maybe 48MB), a fast disk for root/var/newslib, and a big disk for spool. You might be able to get away with less memory by using C-News. My standard cuff calculation formula for RAM is: 1MB * active readers + 2MB * number of feeds + 8MB for system + 2 * sizeof(history.pag) I consider this to be a minimum. News will make very good use of as much memory as you can give it. One of my clients considered it to be an excessive maximum and learned a very expensive lesson when their news service sucked. For a CPU, I have not found a significant need to go beyond a P133. 'newspump.sol.net' is a P133, and is a dedicated feeds machine. It ranks #25 in the Freenix ratings this month. A large client has 100-150 nnrp sessions reading news on their P133 boxes, with CPU to spare. This game isn't really about CPU, it is more about memory, caching, and I/O. Besides, CPU is cheap. Chipset is ultimately important. You WILL not be successful if you buy a cruddy motherboard/chipset. Buy Triton-II. I recommend the ASUS P/I-P55T2P4, or P/E-P55T2P4D (see http://www.asus.com.tw). I recommend buying hardware from Rod Grimes, I have never been disappointed by his services and support. . Do not compromise on your I/O system. News is extremely taxing on a machine's disks. Buy multiple SCSI busses. It is much better to buy three $70 ASUS SC-200 NCR-810 controllers than one $220 AHA-2940 SCSI controller (but if you want to spend $660 on three AHA-2940's, that is not a bad solution either). Buy lots of disks. Stripe them with CCD. The reader machines noted above have 12 disks each: ---------------- ---------------- ---------------- | sd0 root | | sd10 var | | sd20 newslib | | 2G ST32550N | | 2G ST32550N | | CCD 1G 31055N| |--------------| |--------------| |--------------| | sd1 newslib | | sd11 nov | | sd21 nov | | CCD 1G 31055N| | CCD 1G 31055N| | CCD 1G 31055N| |--------------| |--------------| |--------------| | sd2 news | | sd12 news | | sd22 alt | | CCD 2G 32550N| | CCD 2G 32550N| | CCD 2G 32550N| |--------------| |--------------| |--------------| | sd3 alt | | sd13 binaries| | sd23 binaries| | CCD 2G 32550N| | CCD 4G 15150N| | CCD 4G 15150N| ---------------- ---------------- ---------------- Notice I stripe across controllers... also note the rants I have posted in the past on CCD stripe sizes. Use large ones except for the newslib disk. With 150 readers, this is DAMN BUSY... Rule #1) People always try to cheap out on news servers. Rule #2) They fail. Remember those rules and you have a chance of designing a good news service... ... JG From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 5 10:31:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA15284 for current-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 10:31:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from key.sms.fi (count@key.sms.fi [194.197.125.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA15279 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 10:31:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from count@localhost) by key.sms.fi (8.8.2/8.7.3) id UAA00260 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 20:31:08 +0200 (EET) From: "Bror 'Count' Heinola" Message-Id: <199611051831.UAA00260@key.sms.fi> Subject: ALPS DC 544C 4CD changer (ATAPI) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 20:31:07 +0200 (EET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ok, call me stupid, but I just went and bought an ALPS DC 544C ATAPI 4 CD CD-ROM changer hoping that it would work. It doesn't. It gets recognized on bootup as wcd1 unit 0 but there doesn't appear to be any wcd0 device for accessing it. I'm willing to ship this unit to someone who wants to give it a try, and I do think that FreeBSD really should have _working_ ATAPI support before 2.2 goes out as a release. Also, I can't seem to be able to enable 32-bit disk access on my primary drive, although I know someone with FreeBSD and similar drive and it does work on his machine. And yes, 32-bit disk access is enabled in BIOS, disabling it makes no difference. Here's some (possibly) relevant info: The machine is Digital Venturis 5100 (P100, 56M RAM), using the builtin EIDE controllers. machine "i386" cpu "I586_CPU" ident KEY maxusers 10 options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 filesystem options NFS options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG options ATAPI options ATAPI_STATIC options "AUTO_EOI_1" options "AUTO_EOI_2" options "SHMEMMAX=22000" config kernel root on wd0 controller isa0 controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 flags 0x80ff80ff vector wdintr disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 vector wdintr disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 device wcd0 device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr device psm0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" conflicts tty irq 12 vector psmintr device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 vector epintr device fe0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq ? vector feintr pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device log pseudo-device pty 64 pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's pseudo-device bpfilter 4 FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #1: Tue Nov 5 20:17:53 EET 1996 count@key.sms.fi:/usr/src/sys/compile/KEY Calibrating clock(s) relative to mc146818A clock ... i586 clock: 99542642 Hz, i8 254 clock: 1193152 Hz CPU: Pentium (99.54-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x525 Stepping=5 Features=0x1bf real memory = 58720256 (57344K bytes) avail memory = 55808000 (54500K bytes) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0 rev 64 on pci0:0 chip1 rev 1 on pci0:1:0 pci0:8: CMD, device=0x0640, class=storage (ide) int a irq 14 [no driver assigned] vga0 rev 0 int a irq ?? on pci0:9 vga1 rev 1 int a irq 9 on pci0:11 Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> fe0 not found at 0x300 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface psm0 at 0x60-0x63 irq 12 on motherboard fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 flags 0x80ff80ff on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): , multi-block-16 wd0: 3067MB (6281856 sectors), 6232 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, iordy atapi1.0: unknown phase 1 3C5x9 board(s) on ISA found at 0x300 ep0 at 0x300-0x30f irq 10 on isa ep0: aui/utp/bnc[*UTP*] address 00:20:af:c1:6b:11 npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface -- Bror 'Count' Heinola % count@key.hole.fi % http://pobox.com/~count/ Isokaari 27 A 2 % IRC: Count NIC: BH271 % FI-00200 HELSINKI % Work: bror@sms.fi % Roads? Where we're going, Cell: +358-40-5533-554 % Santa Monica Software % we don't need roads. From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 5 12:58:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA24170 for current-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 12:58:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from quagmire.ki.net (root@quagmire.ki.net [205.150.102.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA24163 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 12:58:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by quagmire.ki.net (8.8.2/8.7.5) with SMTP id PAA05399 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 15:58:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 15:58:08 -0500 (EST) From: "Marc G. Fournier" Reply-To: "Marc G. Fournier" To: current@freebsd.org Subject: 9days uptime and then splat! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi... Well, after 9+ days of uptime (which is a recent record for this machine), my machine just went 'splat!'. I've checked recent changes under sys/ufs/ffs, but the only file changed was the recent commit to ffs_inode.c. With my luck with my current kernel, I'm nervous about upgrading that server, so before blindly upgrading to a kernel that may not fix it, can someone take a quick peak at this and let me know if its a known bug (and fixed or being worked on?) The file/section of code that seems to have caused the panic hasn't been modified since Sept 7th, so I don't believe its been fixed yet... The core file is saved, so if there is other data required, feel free to ask Marc G. Fournier scrappy@ki.net Systems Administrator @ ki.net scrappy@freebsd.org Script started on Tue Nov 5 15:45:06 1996 quagmire# gdb -k kernel.gdb.Oct26 vmcore.5 GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it under certain conditions; type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB; type "show warranty" for details. GDB 4.13 (i386-unknown-freebsd), Copyright 1994 Free Software Foundation, Inc... IdlePTD 1e8000 current pcb at 1cc800 panic: general protection fault #0 boot (howto=260) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:237 237 dumppcb.pcb_cr3 = rcr3(); (kgdb) where #0 boot (howto=260) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:237 #1 0xf010ce32 in panic (fmt=0xf01a971f "page fault") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:361 #2 0xf01aa2e2 in trap_fatal (frame=0xf01c2d88) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:741 #3 0xf01a9dd0 in trap_pfault (frame=0xf01c2d88, usermode=0) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:652 #4 0xf01a9a7f in trap (frame={tf_es = 65552, tf_ds = 16, tf_edi = 0, tf_esi = -245441920, tf_ebp = -266588716, tf_isp = -266588752, tf_ebx = -245566336, tf_edx = 0, tf_ecx = -246790400, tf_eax = -246007552, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = -246349824, tf_eip = -267210598, tf_cs = -266600440, tf_eflags = 66118, tf_esp = 0, tf_ss = -245566336}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:311 #5 0xf01a1d01 in calltrap () #6 0xf018b478 in ffs_sync (mp=0xf14b9c00, waitfor=2, cred=0xf1094900, p=0xf01d9b38) at ../../ufs/ffs/ffs_vfsops.c:817 #7 0xf012c57b in sync (p=0xf01d9b38, uap=0x0, retval=0x0) at ../../kern/vfs_syscalls.c:357 #8 0xf010ca4d in boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:181 #9 0xf010ce32 in panic (fmt=0xf01a9735 "general protection fault") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:361 #10 0xf01aa2e2 in trap_fatal (frame=0xf01c2ee0) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:741 #11 0xf01a9b62 in trap (frame={tf_es = -1073610736, tf_ds = -266600432, tf_edi = -267550716, tf_esi = -248941534, tf_ebp = -266588316, tf_isp = -266588408, tf_ebx = -248941568, tf_edx = 645, tf_ecx = 7, tf_eax = -18609182, tf_trapno = 9, tf_err = 2043, tf_eip = -266724216, tf_cs = -266600440, tf_eflags = 66067, tf_esp = 2043, tf_ss = -266696514}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:440 #12 0xf01a1d01 in calltrap () #13 0xf01b3138 in edintr_sc (sc=0xf01d5d60) at ../../i386/isa/if_ed.c:2578 #14 0xf01b318e in edintr (unit=0) at ../../i386/isa/if_ed.c:2605 #15 0xf01b63f7 in add_interrupt_randomness (irq=5) at ../../i386/isa/random_machdep.c:248 (kgdb) up 6 #6 0xf018b478 in ffs_sync (mp=0xf14b9c00, waitfor=2, cred=0xf1094900, p=0xf01d9b38) at ../../ufs/ffs/ffs_vfsops.c:817 817 if (vget(vp, 1)) (kgdb) list 812 if ((((ip->i_flag & 813 (IN_ACCESS | IN_CHANGE | IN_MODIFIED | IN_UPDATE)) == 0)) && 814 vp->v_dirtyblkhd.lh_first == NULL) 815 continue; 816 if (vp->v_type != VCHR) { 817 if (vget(vp, 1)) 818 goto loop; 819 error = VOP_FSYNC(vp, cred, waitfor, p); 820 if (error) 821 allerror = error; (kgdb) print vp $1 = (struct vnode *) 0xf15cf480 (kgdb) print *vp $2 = {v_flag = 892612911, v_usecount = 171455538, v_writecount = 2003136047, v_holdcnt = 1886596979, v_lastr = 795635567, v_id = 1802264948, v_mount = 0x6c6f702f, v_op = 0x63697469, v_freelist = { tqe_next = 0x696d2f73, tqe_prev = 0x312f6373}, v_mntvnodes = { le_next = 0x34323534, le_prev = 0x6d720a39}, v_cleanblkhd = { lh_first = 0x6e2f203a}, v_dirtyblkhd = {lh_first = 0x2f737765}, v_numoutput = 1869574259, v_type = 1635004268, v_un = { vu_mountedhere = 0x702f6b6c, vu_socket = 0x702f6b6c, vu_specinfo = 0x702f6b6c, vu_fifoinfo = 0x702f6b6c}, v_lease = 0x74696c6f, v_lastw = 796091241, v_cstart = 1668508013, v_lasta = 892612911, v_clen = 976237874, v_ralen = 544165408, v_usage = 1751348595, v_maxra = 1818846752, v_object = 0x726f2065, v_tag = 1919509536, v_data = 0x6f746365} (kgdb) quit quagmire# exit exit Script done on Tue Nov 5 15:48:22 1996 From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 5 13:14:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA25183 for current-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 13:14:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from viking.ucsalf.ac.uk (viking.ucsalf.ac.uk [192.195.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA25175 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 13:14:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by viking.ucsalf.ac.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0vKsov-00037RC; Tue, 5 Nov 96 21:14 GMT Message-Id: From: sbolting@nemonet.com (Stephen Boltinghouse) Subject: Just try this, it will work To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 18:44:01 GMT X-Gated-To-News-By: news@ucsalf.ac.uk X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 X-Software: Multipost 1.1 Xref: viking.ucsalf.ac.uk alt.horror.cthulhu:8422 soc.culture.cuba:51623 alt.steinberg.cubase:2044 fr.rec.cuisine:1972 alt.fan.cult-dead-cow:871 alt.fan.cult-evil-dave:21 alt.drugs.culture:15484 alt.med.cure-paralysis:12 rec.sport.curling:653 list.freebsd.current:5336 uk.rec.cycling:22634 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Take five minutes to read this and it WILL change your life. The Internet has grown tremendously. It doubles in size every 4 months. think about it. You see those 'Make.Money.Fast' posts more and more. That's ... because it WORKS ! So I thought, all those new users might make it work. And I decided to try it out, a few months ago. Besides, whats $5.00, I spend more than that in the morning on my way to work on coffee and cigs for the day. So I sent in my money and posted. Everyone was calling it a scam, but there are SO many new users from AOL, Netcom, etc. they will join in and make it work for you. Well, two weeks later, I began recieving bucks in the mail! I couldn't believe it! Not just a little, I mean big bucks! At first only a few hundred dollars, then a week later, a couple of thousand, then BOOM. By the end of the fourth week, I had recieved nearly $47,000.00. It came from all over the world. And every bit of it perfectly legal and on the up and up. I've been able to pay off all my bills and still had enough left over for a nice vacation for me and my family. Not only does it work for me, it works for other folks as well. Markus Valppu says he made $57,883 in four weeks. Dave Manning claims he made $53,664 in the same amount of time. Dan Shepstone says it was only $17,000 for him. Do I know these folks? No, but when I read how they say they did it, it made sense to me. Enough sense that I'm taking a similar chance with $5 of my own bucks. Not a big chance, I admit--but one with incredible potential, because $5 is all anyone ever invests in this system. Period. That's all Markus, Dave, or Dan invested, yet their $5 netted them tens of thousands of dollars each, in a safe, legal, completely legitimate way. Here's how it works in 3 easy steps: STEP 1. Invest your $5 by writing your name and address on five seperate pieces of paper along with the words: "PLEASE ADD ME TO YOUR MAILING LIST." (In this way, you're not just sending a dollar to someone; you're paying for a legitimate service.) Fold a $1 bill, money order, or bank note inside each paper, and mail them by standard U. S. Mail to the following five addresses: 1- Fern Suarez Mallorca 112 Hato Rey, P.R., USA, 00917 2- Philippe 2104 De Mexico Chomedey, Laval Quebec, Canada H7M 3C6 3- Natalie Jansen Lancveldlaan 18 5671 CN Nuenen Holland 4- Chad Collier 2785 Cold Springs Rd. #49 Placerville, CA 95667 5- Steve Boltinghouse 1009 Bird St. Hannibal, MO 63401 STEP 2. Now remove the top name from the list, and move the other names up.This way, #5 becomes #4 and so on. Put your name in as the fifth one on the list. STEP 3. Post the article to at least 250 newsgroups. There are at least 19000 newsgroups at any given moment in time. Try posting to as many newsgroups as you can. Remember the more groups you post to, the more people will see your article and send you cash! STEP 4. You are now in business for yourself, and should start seeing returns within 7 to 14 days! Remember, the Internet is new and huge. There is no way you can lose. Now here is how and why this system works: Out of every block of 250 posts I made, I got back 5 responses. Yes, thats right,only 5. You make $5.00 in cash, not checks or money orders, but real cash with your name at #5. Each additional person who sent you $1.00 now also makes 250 additional postings with your name at #4, 1000 postings. On average then, 50 people will send you $1.00 with your name at #4,....$50.00 in your pocket! Now these 50 new people will make 250 postings each with your name at #3 or 10,000 postings. Average return, 500 people= $500. They make 250 postings each with your name at #2= 100,000 postings=5000 returns at $1.00 each=$5,000.00 in cash! Finally, 5,000 people make 250 postings each with your name at #1 and you get a return of $60,000 before your name drops off the list.And that's only if everyone down the line makes only 250 postings each! Your total income for this one cycle is $55,000. From time to time when you see your name is no longer on the list, you take the latest posting you can find and start all over again. The end result depends on you. You must follow through and repost this article everywhere you can think of. The more postings you make, the more cash ends up in your mailbox. It's too easy and too cheap to pass up!!! So thats it. Pretty simple sounding stuff, huh? But believe me, it works. There are millions of people surfing the net every day, all day, all over the world. And 100,000 new people get on the net every day. You know that, you've seen the stories in the paper. So, my friend, read and follow the simple instructions and play fair. Thats the key, and thats all there is to it. Print this out right now so you can refer back to this article easily. Try to keep an eye on all the postings you made to make sure everyone is playing fairly. You know where your name should be. If you're really not sure or still think this can't be for real, then don't do it. But please print this article and pass it along to someone you know who really needs the bucks, and see what happens. REMEMBER....HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY.YOU DON'T NEED TO CHEAT THE BASIC IDEA TO MAKE THE BUCKS! GOOD LUCK TO ALL, AND PLEASE PLAY FAIR AND YOU WILL WIN AND MAKE SOME REAL INSTANT FREE CASH! *** By the way, if you try to deceive people by posting the messages with your name in the list and not sending the bucks to the people already included, you will not get much. I know someone who did this and only got about $150 (and that's after two months). Then he sent the 5 bills, people added him to their lists, and in 4-5 weeks he had over $10,000! TRY IT AND YOU'LL BE HAPPY!!! :o) !!!!!!!!!! From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 5 13:28:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA26012 for current-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 13:28:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from itchy.mindspring.com (itchy.mindspring.com [204.180.128.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA25999 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 13:28:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlb.users.mindspring.com (user-168-121-25-139.dialup.mindspring.com [168.121.25.139]) by itchy.mindspring.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA23206 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 16:27:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <327FB16D.41C67EA6@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 1996 16:28:13 -0500 From: Ron Bolin X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Strange PS2 Mouse Behavior Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk After updating from around a 10-26-96 current to todays 11-5-96 I am having problems with my PS2 mouse. A times it reacts strange when I move my cursor to another window too fast. It will charge to the far right of the screen when I am moving it to the left. It was working just fine. Noticed when using Netscape 3.01b GOLD. Also had one SCSI bus freeze (using AHA 2940UW with Wide and SCSI-2 disks/tapes/CD). Never saw this before, one of 1my 2 disk actually spun down, I could hear it.' The mouse is acting strange now, just flew to the top of the screen while I was editing this memo. FreeBSD rlb.users.mindspring.com 3.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Tue Nov 5 Anyone else see anything like this. -- **************************************************************************** Ron Bolin rlb@mindspring.com, http://www.mindspring.com/~rlb/ GSU: gs01rlb@panther.gsu.edu matrlbx@indigo4.cs.gsu.edu Home: 770-992-8877 **************************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 5 13:40:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA26878 for current-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 13:40:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from key.sms.fi (count@key.sms.fi [194.197.125.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA26870 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 13:40:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from count@localhost) by key.sms.fi (8.8.2/8.7.3) id XAA00260 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 23:40:09 +0200 (EET) From: "Bror 'Count' Heinola" Message-Id: <199611052140.XAA00260@key.sms.fi> Subject: Re: ALPS DC 544C 4CD changer (ATAPI) In-Reply-To: <199611051831.UAA00260@key.sms.fi> from Bror 'Count' Heinola at "Nov 5, 96 08:31:07 pm" To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 23:40:09 +0200 (EET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Following up my own message here... :-) Bror 'Count' Heinola taisi sanoa: > Ok, call me stupid, but I just went and bought an ALPS DC 544C You're stupid. > It gets recognized on bootup as wcd1 unit 0 but there doesn't > appear to be any wcd0 device for accessing it. I'm willing to And that was only because I had a disc in the wrong slot... Topmost one instead of the lowest. *DUH* So, now it works as single-disc CD-ROM, but how to make it to change disks? Any ideas? From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 5 13:51:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA27582 for current-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 13:51:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from nike.efn.org (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.28]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA27576 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 13:51:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nike.efn.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA16333 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 13:51:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 13:51:15 -0800 (PST) From: John-Mark Gurney X-Sender: jmg@nike Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney To: FreeBSD Current Subject: possible bug in /etc/rc Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk well... I had this bug hit me in a different way... but in the umount -a in /etc/rc is redirected to /dev/null... now if you are using devfs and don't prep /dev with null and you are trying to run a read-only / that will fail... this hit me in a different way was I added the redirect to my mount command so /proc and /dev wasn't being mounted... just a thought... ttyl.. John-Mark gurney_j@efn.org http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Modem/FAX: (541) 683-6954 (FreeBSD Box) Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD (unix) From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 5 14:02:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA28090 for current-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 14:02:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA28077 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 14:02:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA26779; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 15:02:22 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 15:02:22 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199611052202.PAA26779@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Ron Bolin Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange PS2 Mouse Behavior In-Reply-To: <327FB16D.41C67EA6@mindspring.com> References: <327FB16D.41C67EA6@mindspring.com> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ron Bolin writes: > After updating from around a 10-26-96 current to todays 11-5-96 > I am having problems with my PS2 mouse. A times it reacts strange > when I move my cursor to another window too fast. It will charge to > the far right of the screen when I am moving it to the left. It was > working If it's any consolation, I'm now getting spurious interrupts happening on IRQ 3, but it only happens once in a while. A reboot or two will fix the problem, but it might start up again later. If I reboot an old kernel the problem will not occur. Normally I'd blame this on bogus hardware, but given that I can boot an old kernel and it works fine I'm leaning towards software. However, this problem only occurs on my P/75 laptop, and not on my desktop box. This problem showed up in the last 2 weeks, but I had other modifications on my system that I blamed it on. I've since removed all of them and the problem persists. Nate ps. I'm going to be committing a new PS/2 mouse driver as soon as the network between MT and WC clears whenever I get time. :) From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 5 14:25:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA29822 for current-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 14:25:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA29799 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 14:25:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA06957; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 15:18:14 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199611052218.PAA06957@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Just try this, it will work To: sbolting@nemonet.com (Stephen Boltinghouse) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 15:18:14 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Stephen Boltinghouse" at Nov 5, 96 06:44:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Take five minutes to read this and it WILL change your life. [ ... ] I will make you a deal. Send me $10,000 now. I will do what you ask, and send you everything I get to you. That way you get twice the money (minus my modest fee of $10,000 -- modest because I assume you claims are true, right?). Isn't that a deal? Cashier's check only, please... Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 5 15:06:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA01838 for current-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 15:06:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from uucp.DK.net (uucp@uucp.DK.net [193.88.44.47]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA01833 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 15:06:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from pingnet (uucp@localhost) by uucp.DK.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id AAA02325 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 00:06:05 +0100 Received: from kyklopen by ic1.ic.dk with UUCP id AA17619 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4j for freebsd-current@freebsd.org); Tue, 5 Nov 1996 23:56:01 +0100 Received: (from staff@localhost) by kyklopen.ping.dk (8.8.2/8.7.3) id XAA02088; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 23:57:43 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 23:57:42 +0100 (MET) From: Thomas Sparrevohn X-Sender: staff@kyklopen To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Part 25 and 26 and commit message for CTM 2385 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Charset: ISO_8859-1 X-Char-Esc: 29 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi I don't seem to have received CTM 2485 part 25 and 26 and the commit message and i don't really feel like downloading 5MB again so if anybody has these two parts it would be really nice. Regards Thomas From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 5 15:47:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA03311 for current-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 15:47:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from dcs.stu.rpi.edu (kdupuis@dcs.stu.rpi.edu [128.113.161.29]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA03306 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 15:47:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (kdupuis@localhost) by dcs.stu.rpi.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA00245 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 18:47:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 18:47:04 -0500 (EST) From: "Kenneth J. Dupuis" To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /usr/obj size In-Reply-To: <199611052318.RAA07444@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Joe Greco wrote: > Striping ("CCD") works on general disk devices. I have never tried it on > non-SCSI drives or with non-PCI controllers. How do you set it up in FreeBSD? From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 5 16:17:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA04905 for current-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 16:17:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from viking.ucsalf.ac.uk (viking.ucsalf.ac.uk [192.195.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA04895 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 16:17:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by viking.ucsalf.ac.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0vKvgT-00037TC; Wed, 6 Nov 96 00:17 GMT Message-Id: From: sbolting@nemonet.com (Stephen Boltinghouse) Subject: cmsg cancel <568.051093963906@news.nemonet.com> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 05 Nov 1996 22:55:48 +1 X-Gated-To-News-By: news@ucsalf.ac.uk X-Cancelled-By: hw@atlantic.FB12.TU-Berlin.DE X-No-Archive: Yes Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk MMF chain letter cancelled by hw@atlantic.fb12.tu-berlin.de . This is an ongoing spam with huge Breidbart indices. See my 2 reports "Boltinghouse" in news.admin.net-abuse.announce. Subject was: Just try this, it will work. From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 5 17:39:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA07995 for current-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 17:39:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from dcs.stu.rpi.edu (kdupuis@dcs.stu.rpi.edu [128.113.161.29]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA07987 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 17:39:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (kdupuis@localhost) by dcs.stu.rpi.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA00592 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 20:39:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 20:39:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Kenneth J. Dupuis" To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /usr/obj size In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Veggy Vinny wrote: > Hmmm, is there even a triple channel SCSI controller available? Yeah! The Adaptec 3985! Its being touted as their RAID controller... From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 5 18:20:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA09276 for current-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 18:20:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from itchy.mindspring.com (itchy.mindspring.com [204.180.128.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA09270 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 18:20:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlb.users.mindspring.com (user-168-121-25-139.dialup.mindspring.com [168.121.25.139]) by itchy.mindspring.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA18680 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 21:20:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <327FF5EC.794BDF32@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 05 Nov 1996 21:20:28 -0500 From: Ron Bolin X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: 11-5-96 Current Tbls in X11 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk After supping out at 9-10AM today 11-5-96 and doing a make cleandir and make world from the tree top as well as maing the kernel my system became unstable (never unstable b4 today) when using X. Symptoms: PS2 mouse erratic, loose keyboard input to xterms, windows freeze up. A restart of X fixes it for a while, then boom. I just rebuilt a 10-22-96 kernel from source I had on tape. Works just fine, no bugs as in 11-5-96 above. Added Justin Gibbs AIC changes back in while testing with him. Still works fine. Something else added since 10-22-26-96 and today was the culprit I think. Got any ideas, I can always re-cvsup from 10-22-96, but this time I think I may see the same. It is definitely in the sys tree. Config: P6 200 e/w 64MB, Adaptech 2940 UW, Wide SCSI, SCSI-2 CD/TAPE. ATI Mach64 PCI. -Ron -- **************************************************************************** Ron Bolin rlb@mindspring.com, http://www.mindspring.com/~rlb/ GSU: gs01rlb@panther.gsu.edu matrlbx@indigo4.cs.gsu.edu Home: 770-992-8877 **************************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 5 19:38:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA12435 for current-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 19:38:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA12429; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 19:38:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.2/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA16199; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 19:38:38 -0800 (PST) To: sbolting@nemonet.com (Stephen Boltinghouse) cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, postmaster@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Just try this, it will work In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 05 Nov 1996 18:44:01 GMT." Date: Tue, 05 Nov 1996 19:38:38 -0800 Message-ID: <16197.847251518@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Needless to say, you're now on the list of those filtered. Jon, would you care to do the honors or shall I? Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 5 20:07:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA13735 for current-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 20:07:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA13727; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 20:07:17 -0800 (PST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199611060407.UAA13727@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Just try this, it will work To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Tue, 5 Nov 1996 20:07:17 -0800 (PST) Cc: sbolting@nemonet.com, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, postmaster@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <16197.847251518@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Nov 5, 96 07:38:38 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Needless to say, you're now on the list of those filtered. > Jon, would you care to do the honors or shall I? another one bites the dust. jmb From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 5 21:41:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA20140 for current-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 21:41:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx.serv.net (mx.serv.net [199.201.191.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA20130 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 21:41:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from MindBender.serv.net by mx.serv.net (8.7.5/SERV Revision: 2.30) id VAA14003; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 21:41:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.serv.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA24354; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 21:41:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611060541.VAA24354@MindBender.serv.net> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.serv.net: Host michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: "Kenneth J. Dupuis" cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /usr/obj size In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 05 Nov 96 18:47:04 -0500. Date: Tue, 05 Nov 1996 21:41:12 -0800 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> Striping ("CCD") works on general disk devices. I have never tried it on >> non-SCSI drives or with non-PCI controllers. >How do you set it up in FreeBSD? man ccd man ccdconfig ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@MindBender.serv.net --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Tue Nov 5 22:41:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA23523 for current-outgoing; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 22:41:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from dcs.stu.rpi.edu (kdupuis@dcs.stu.rpi.edu [128.113.161.29]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA23516 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 1996 22:41:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (kdupuis@localhost) by dcs.stu.rpi.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA01280 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 01:40:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 01:40:54 -0500 (EST) From: "Kenneth J. Dupuis" To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: 2.2-961014 and 3c590 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Update on the ethernet card from hell... I'm able to simulate the problem whenever I want by either 1) FTPing from the machine 2) HTTPing from the machine 3) ping flooding with 1000 byte packets to or from the machine. When the network ceases to work, a simple ping to the next-door neighbor results in a "No buffer space available". I can now "ifconfig vx0 down" and then "ifconfig vx0 up" the interface and all is well until I do it again. ifconfig reports a "OACTIVE" flag when the interface is "flooded", or whatever the case may be. Does someone know what is going on here? What does that flag mean? From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 6 01:57:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA07394 for current-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 01:57:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from zwei.siemens.at (zwei.siemens.at [193.81.246.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA07377 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 01:57:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from sol1.gud.siemens.co.at (root@[10.1.143.100]) by zwei.siemens.at (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA10957 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 10:56:10 +0100 (MET) Received: from ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at by sol1.gud.siemens.co.at with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7 for ) id m0vL4j7-00021LC; Wed, 6 Nov 96 10:56 MET Received: by ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at (1.37.109.16/1.37) id AA143743995; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 10:53:15 +0100 From: "Hr.Ladavac" Message-Id: <199611060953.AA143743995@ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at> Subject: Re: Just try this, it will work To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 10:53:15 +0100 (MEZ) Cc: sbolting@nemonet.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199611052218.PAA06957@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at Nov 5, 96 03:18:14 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk E-mail message from Terry Lambert contained: > > Take five minutes to read this and it WILL change your life. > > [ ... ] > > I will make you a deal. > [ ... ] Hey folks, what happened to Dave Rhodes? /Marino > > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers. > From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 6 05:49:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA19643 for current-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 05:49:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from shadows.aeon.net (bsdcur@shadows.aeon.net [194.100.41.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA19637 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 05:49:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bsdcur@localhost) by shadows.aeon.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id PAA25090; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 15:49:09 +0200 (EET) From: mika ruohotie Message-Id: <199611061349.PAA25090@shadows.aeon.net> Subject: Re: /usr/obj size To: kdupuis@dcs.stu.rpi.edu (Kenneth J. Dupuis) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 15:49:09 +0200 (EET) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Kenneth J. Dupuis" at "Nov 5, 96 08:39:19 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Hmmm, is there even a triple channel SCSI controller available? > Yeah! The Adaptec 3985! Its being touted as their RAID controller... but. it's only working under netware, right? but the 3940UW is a _nice_ thing to have... atleast i'm happy it's performance... ofcourse if there's prob with the low number of pci channels, it'd be nice to have triple/quad channel cards... mickey From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 6 09:01:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA03345 for current-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 09:01:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from red.jnx.com (red.jnx.com [208.197.169.254]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA03338 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 09:01:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from black.jnx.com (black.jnx.com [208.197.169.250]) by red.jnx.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA19050 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 09:01:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from pst@localhost) by black.jnx.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) id JAA05187; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 09:01:09 -0800 (PST) To: current@freebsd.org Subject: new gdb status From: Paul Traina Date: 06 Nov 1996 09:01:07 -0800 Message-ID: <7y3eyn6tv0.fsf@black.jnx.com> Lines: 13 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.2.25/XEmacs 19.14 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Just in case people are wondering, no, I'm not dead, just really busy. I wanted to delay layering in the changes until after the new gdb source code made it out to the first batch of people (I didn't want everyone to scream bloody murder after putting in many hours of work, so this was a way to test the water). Since we've now had a couple of days to let things settle in, I'll be layering in my changes and pruning back what I can (not a ton) over the next few days. The local changes to GDB will go in *first* and the prune-back will be the last step. Paul From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 6 12:24:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA22683 for current-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 12:24:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from critter.tfs.com ([140.145.230.177]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22657 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 12:24:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from critter.tfs.com (localhost.phk.dk [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id PAA05003 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 15:05:14 +0100 (MET) To: current@freebsd.org Subject: please test -currents kernel Reply-to: phk@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 15:05:14 +0100 Message-ID: <5001.847289114@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Please test the kernel in -current as much as you can. It is more or less what we expect to ship in release 2.2 so if you would care to whip it for a couple of hours/days we would be very happy. In particular, if you have a SCSI system, we (Actually: Justin) would like to hear about any trouble you find. Should you get a crash, please check out the dump with the new version of gdb which Paul Traina is giving the final coat of paint so we know if that works well enough for 2.2 as well. Thanks in advance! -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 6 13:08:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA25941 for current-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 13:08:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA25933; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 13:08:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from current1.whistle.com (current1.whistle.com [207.76.205.22]) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id NAA10831; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 13:06:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3280FDB1.4DAA423A@whistle.com> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 13:05:53 -0800 From: Julian Elischer Organization: Whistle Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: phk@freebsd.org CC: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: please test -currents kernel References: <5001.847289114@critter.tfs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > Please test the kernel in -current as much as you can. > > It is more or less what we expect to ship in release 2.2 so if you > would care to whip it for a couple of hours/days we would be very > happy. we're running with a 2 week old version and it seems good.. I'll try to see if we can upgrade to "2.2 candidate" > > In particular, if you have a SCSI system, we (Actually: Justin) would > like to hear about any trouble you find. > > Should you get a crash, please check out the dump with the new version > of gdb which Paul Traina is giving the final coat of paint so we > know if that works well enough for 2.2 as well. > > Thanks in advance! > > -- > Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. > http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. > whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. > Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 6 13:24:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA26725 for current-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 13:24:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from critter.tfs.com ([140.145.230.177]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA26695; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 13:23:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from critter.tfs.com (localhost.phk.dk [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id QAA05129; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 16:04:57 +0100 (MET) To: Julian Elischer cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: please test -currents kernel In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 06 Nov 1996 13:05:53 PST." <3280FDB1.4DAA423A@whistle.com> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 16:04:56 +0100 Message-ID: <5127.847292696@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <3280FDB1.4DAA423A@whistle.com>, Julian Elischer writes: >Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >> >> Please test the kernel in -current as much as you can. >> >> It is more or less what we expect to ship in release 2.2 so if you >> would care to whip it for a couple of hours/days we would be very >> happy. > >we're running with a 2 week old version and it seems good.. >I'll try to see if we can upgrade to "2.2 candidate" Don't take it from the RELENG_2_2 branch, we havn't merged the bits in question yet, so please make sure you test the HEAD branch. Thanks in advance! -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 6 13:52:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA28586 for current-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 13:52:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA28580; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 13:52:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611062152.NAA28580@freefall.freebsd.org> To: phk@freebsd.org cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: please test -currents kernel In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 06 Nov 1996 15:05:14 +0100." <5001.847289114@critter.tfs.com> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 13:52:42 -0800 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >In particular, if you have a SCSI system, we (Actually: Justin) would >like to hear about any trouble you find. The SCSI branch is not in -current yet and wont be until I get the okay from Stefan about the NCR driver. I'm still interested in SCSI problems in current though, since I don't think the SCSI branch code will make 2.2R. >Thanks in advance! > >-- >Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. >http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. >whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc >. >Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 6 14:21:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA01310 for current-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:21:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from vinyl.quickweb.com (vinyl.quickweb.com [206.222.77.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA01300 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:21:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (mark@localhost) by vinyl.quickweb.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA01104; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:20:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:20:11 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Mayo To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: Julian Elischer , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: please test -currents kernel In-Reply-To: <5127.847292696@critter.tfs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 6 Nov 1996, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <3280FDB1.4DAA423A@whistle.com>, Julian Elischer writes: > >Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > >> > >> Please test the kernel in -current as much as you can. > >> > >> It is more or less what we expect to ship in release 2.2 so if you > >> would care to whip it for a couple of hours/days we would be very > >> happy. > > > >we're running with a 2 week old version and it seems good.. > >I'll try to see if we can upgrade to "2.2 candidate" > > Don't take it from the RELENG_2_2 branch, we havn't merged the bits > in question yet, so please make sure you test the HEAD branch. > > Thanks in advance! Huh? I thought if I wanted to help in the preparation for the 2.2 release, that the RELENG_2_2 branch was exactly what I needed... On that note, I CVSupped the RELENG_2_2 branch last night, and it seems quite solid so far. My only problem had to do with xdm not starting up by default because it wanted libgnumalloc.so.2.0, which I just ln -s'ed to libfakegnumallow.so.2.0 and everything seems great so far! Are the changes you are talking about eventually going to make into the RELENG_2_2 branch? I'm especially interested in the SCSI code, and the ncrcontrol stuff seeing I have a 53c810 NCR controller.. -mark > > -- > Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. > http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. > whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. > Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. > ------------------------------------------------ | Mark Mayo mark@quickweb.com | | RingZero Comp. www.quickweb.com | ------------------------------------------------ "To iterate is human, to recurse divine." - L. Peter Deutsch From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 6 14:43:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA03915 for current-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:43:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from dcs.stu.rpi.edu (kdupuis@dcs.stu.rpi.edu [128.113.161.29]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA03901 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:43:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (kdupuis@localhost) by dcs.stu.rpi.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA01776 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:43:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:43:31 -0500 (EST) From: "Kenneth J. Dupuis" To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: please test -currents kernel In-Reply-To: <3280FDB1.4DAA423A@whistle.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > > > Please test the kernel in -current as much as you can. We'd love to test it, since our machines have relatively "new" hardware. I'm new to the FreeBSD way of things, so if someone could tell me the easiest way to get the latest kernel sources we'll recompile right away. All of our machines are connected to 10Mbps ethernet to a 100Mbps FDDI campus backbone to a full 45Mbps T3, so speed is not a concern. I know there are several ways of getting the source updates, depending on the available bandwidth. TIA, Ken From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 6 14:53:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA04993 for current-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:53:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from clem.systemsix.com (clem.systemsix.com [198.99.86.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA04979 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:53:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clem.systemsix.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA19638 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 15:53:31 -0700 Message-Id: <199611062253.PAA19638@clem.systemsix.com> X-Authentication-Warning: clem.systemsix.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 From: Steve Passe To: current@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Just try this, it will work In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 06 Nov 1996 13:52:50 PST." <199611062152.NAA28597@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 15:53:30 -0700 Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, >Take five minutes to read this and it WILL change your life. > ... >Everyone was calling it a scam, but there are SO many new users from > AOL, Netcom, etc. they will join in and make it work for you. > ... >Invest your $5 by writing your name and address on five seperate pieces >of paper along with the words: "PLEASE ADD ME TO YOUR MAILING LIST." 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Turn over any chain letter you receive that asks for money or other items of value to your local postmaster or nearest Postal Inspector. --- Other useful anti-spam sites: http://kryten.eng.monash.edu.au/gspam.html http://www.csn.net/~felbel/jnkmail.html http://www.acusd.edu/~prc/fs/fs5-tmkt.html http://www.acusd.edu/~prc/index.html -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 6 15:01:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA05511 for current-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 15:01:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (root@mexico.brainstorm.fr [193.56.58.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA05504 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 15:01:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (brasil.brainstorm.fr [193.56.58.33]) by mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA22249 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 00:01:01 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id AAA09124 for current@freebsd.org; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 00:00:38 +0100 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.8.2/keltia-uucp-2.9) id XAA04779; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 23:47:50 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199611062247.XAA04779@keltia.freenix.fr> Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 23:47:50 +0100 From: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: please test -currents kernel References: <5001.847289114@critter.tfs.com> <199611062152.NAA28580@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.49.07 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT ctm#2669 In-Reply-To: <199611062152.NAA28580@freefall.freebsd.org>; from Justin T. Gibbs on Nov 6, 1996 13:52:42 -0800 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Justin T. Gibbs: > The SCSI branch is not in -current yet and wont be until I get the okay > from Stefan about the NCR driver. I'm still interested in SCSI problems > in current though, since I don't think the SCSI branch code will make > 2.2R. I use extensively both the AHB and the BT drivers and they work without problems. Now, if you could get the BT driver to support Tagged Commands, that would be great. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 2.2-CURRENT #26: Sun Oct 27 19:39:11 MET 1996 From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 6 15:22:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA06737 for current-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 15:22:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA06726 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 15:22:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA05450; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 09:51:26 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199611062321.JAA05450@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: please test -currents kernel To: mark@quickweb.com (Mark Mayo) Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 09:51:25 +1030 (CST) Cc: phk@critter.tfs.com, julian@whistle.com, current@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Mark Mayo" at Nov 6, 96 05:20:11 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Mark Mayo stands accused of saying: > > Huh? I thought if I wanted to help in the preparation for the 2.2 release, > that the RELENG_2_2 branch was exactly what I needed... On that note, I > CVSupped the RELENG_2_2 branch last night, and it seems quite solid so > far. My only problem had to do with xdm not starting up by default because > it wanted libgnumalloc.so.2.0, which I just ln -s'ed to > libfakegnumallow.so.2.0 and everything seems great so far! Update your /etc/rc, and remove the symlink. libfakegnumalloc is in /usr/lib/compat, where ldconfig will find it, but "configure" in J. Random port won't. (We don't really want ports linking with gnumalloc) -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 6 15:44:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA08193 for current-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 15:44:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA08038 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 15:43:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id AAA24344; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 00:42:51 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id AAA19367; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 00:42:50 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.2/8.6.9) id AAA22896; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 00:30:15 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199611062330.AAA22896@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: please test -currents kernel To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 00:30:14 +0100 (MET) Cc: kdupuis@dcs.stu.rpi.edu (Kenneth J. Dupuis) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: from "Kenneth J. Dupuis" at "Nov 6, 96 05:43:31 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Kenneth J. Dupuis wrote: > We'd love to test it, since our machines have relatively "new" hardware. > I'm new to the FreeBSD way of things, so if someone could tell me the > easiest way to get the latest kernel sources we'll recompile right away. Please, read the section about ``staying -current'' in the handbook. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 6 16:02:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA09385 for current-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 16:02:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from sequent.kiae.su (sequent.kiae.su [193.125.152.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA09375; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 16:02:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by sequent.kiae.su id AA20214 (5.65.kiae-2 ); Thu, 7 Nov 1996 03:53:37 +0400 Received: by sequent.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Thu, 7 Nov 96 03:53:36 +0400 Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.ru (8.8.2/8.8.2) id CAA01069; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 02:53:05 +0300 (MSK) Message-Id: <199611062353.CAA01069@nagual.ru> Subject: Re: please test -currents kernel In-Reply-To: <5001.847289114@critter.tfs.com> from "Poul-Henning Kamp" at "Nov 6, 96 03:05:14 pm" To: phk@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 02:53:04 +0300 (MSK) Cc: current@freebsd.org, pst@freebsd.org From: "=?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?=" (Andrey A. Chernov) Organization: self X-Class: Fast X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Should you get a crash, please check out the dump with the new version > of gdb which Paul Traina is giving the final coat of paint so we > know if that works well enough for 2.2 as well. Please, remove unnecessary bloat from gdb: it is non-i386 stuff and readline library... -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.ru/~ache/ From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 6 18:57:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA19312 for current-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:57:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.crl.com (mail.crl.com [165.113.1.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA19307 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 18:57:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from dyson.iquest.net ([198.70.144.127]) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA02460 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 6 Nov 1996 19:58:05 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id OAA00499 for current@freebsd.org; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:50:16 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199611061950.OAA00499@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Problems with bootstrap To: current@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 14:50:15 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: dyson@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Using the standard biosboot, I am having problems selecting the kernel (the bootstrap does not respond to keyboard activity at all.) I can boot /kernel, but that is it. Before boot, I can configure the bios, with no problems. After boot, freebsd works fine. Does anyone have any pointers or suggestions for solving this problem? I am dead until this thing is fixed (all I will venture to do is to boot my existing kernel :-(.) MB: SuperMicro P6DNF, AMI bios.... John dyson@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 6 19:11:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA20525 for current-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 19:11:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA20518 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 19:11:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (wck-ca15-19.ix.netcom.com [207.94.231.51]) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA00652 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 19:10:29 -0800 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.2/8.6.9) id TAA24792; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 19:10:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 19:10:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611070310.TAA24792@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: yp_next failure From: asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I noticed that a lot of user processes started dying due to high network load. For instance, I get things like this: === >> rlogin vader Last login: Wed Nov 6 18:41:44 from 136.152.64.181 yp_next: clnt_call: RPC: Timed out rlogin: connection closed. === and this is in /var/log/messages: === Nov 6 18:43:16 vader /kernel: pid 22470 (login), uid 0: exited on signal 11 === Other processes that died today were (this is just a small part of the log): === Nov 6 15:40:31 vader /kernel: pid 852 (sendmail), uid 0: exited on signal 11 Nov 6 15:40:48 vader /kernel: pid 856 (from), uid 5531: exited on signal 11 Nov 6 15:41:05 vader /kernel: pid 863 (ssh), uid 0: exited on signal 11 Nov 6 15:48:26 vader /kernel: pid 994 (xterm), uid 0: exited on signal 11 Nov 6 15:48:39 vader /kernel: pid 1019 (xterm), uid 0: exited on signal 11 Nov 6 15:48:40 vader /kernel: pid 1021 (xterm), uid 0: exited on signal 11 Nov 6 15:48:41 vader /kernel: pid 1029 (xterm), uid 0: exited on signal 11 Nov 6 15:48:41 vader /kernel: pid 1025 (xterm), uid 0: exited on signal 11 Nov 6 15:48:41 vader /kernel: pid 1027 (xterm), uid 0: exited on signal 11 Nov 6 15:48:41 vader /kernel: pid 1026 (xterm), uid 0: exited on signal 11 Nov 6 15:48:41 vader /kernel: pid 1024 (xterm), uid 0: exited on signal 11 Nov 6 15:48:49 vader /kernel: pid 1017 (xterm), uid 0: exited on signal 11 Nov 6 15:51:27 vader /kernel: pid 1436 (ssh), uid 0: exited on signal 11 Nov 6 15:53:41 vader /kernel: pid 1653 (xterm), uid 0: exited on signal 11 Nov 6 15:55:26 vader /kernel: pid 1791 (cron), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Nov 6 16:03:42 vader /kernel: pid 1888 (mailq), uid 0: exited on signal 11 Nov 6 16:55:11 vader /kernel: pid 3804 (cron), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Nov 6 16:55:41 vader /kernel: pid 3805 (sendmail), uid 0: exited on signal 11 === Are these many programs supposed to die when a YP lookup has failed? The network has been congested lately, but I haven't seen this kind of mass suicide until just recently. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 6 20:20:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA25015 for current-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:20:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from dyson.iquest.net ([198.70.144.127]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA25009; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:20:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.2/8.6.9) id XAA00282; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 23:20:09 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199611070420.XAA00282@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: Problems with bootstrap To: dyson@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 23:20:08 -0500 (EST) Cc: current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199611061950.OAA00499@dyson.iquest.net> from "John S. Dyson" at Nov 6, 96 02:50:15 pm Reply-To: dyson@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Using the standard biosboot, I am having problems selecting > the kernel (the bootstrap does not respond to keyboard activity > at all.) I can boot /kernel, but that is it. Before boot, > I can configure the bios, with no problems. After boot, freebsd > works fine. > > Does anyone have any pointers or suggestions for solving this > problem? I am dead until this thing is fixed (all I will > venture to do is to boot my existing kernel :-(.) > > MB: SuperMicro P6DNF, AMI bios.... > More info, isch() isn't ever sensing a character being typed. I simply commented out the isch test (disabling the timeout), and it works (getchar is okay.) Any known AMI bios bugs? (I am NOT the person who knows all of these bios things.) John From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 6 20:47:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA26626 for current-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:47:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA26619 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:46:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (richardc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA22527 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:34:00 -0800 Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 17:33:59 -0800 (PST) From: Veggy Vinny To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: system won't boot Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings everyone, I am using 3.0 -current as of the 11/5/96 code and it was working fine even after booting but today, when I rebooted the machine. It just hanged after it probed for joy0 and I can see activity on the disk. I did do shutdown -r now before rebooting last night to Win95 so does anyone know what possibly might be wrong? It seems like I can still type to the machine since I logged in from the console but I just can't see what I type. Vince GaiaNet Corporation - Unix Networking Operations - GUS Mailing Lists Admin From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 6 20:53:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA27044 for current-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:53:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from precipice.shockwave.com (ppp-206-170-5-148.rdcy01.pacbell.net [206.170.5.148]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA27039; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:53:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from shockwave.com (localhost.shockwave.com [127.0.0.1]) by precipice.shockwave.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA11593; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:52:26 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611070452.UAA11593@precipice.shockwave.com> To: "=?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?=" (Andrey A. Chernov) cc: phk@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: please test -currents kernel In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 07 Nov 1996 02:53:04 +0300." <199611062353.CAA01069@nagual.ru> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 20:52:26 -0800 From: Paul Traina Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From: "=?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?=" (Andrey A. Chernov >>) Subject: Re: please test -currents kernel > Should you get a crash, please check out the dump with the new version > of gdb which Paul Traina is giving the final coat of paint so we > know if that works well enough for 2.2 as well. Please, remove unnecessary bloat from gdb: it is non-i386 stuff and readline library... I will be doing so shortly (as time permits). From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 6 20:56:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA27207 for current-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:56:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (skynet.ctr.columbia.edu [128.59.64.70]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA27194; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 20:56:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wpaul@localhost) by skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id XAA06495; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 23:56:18 -0500 From: Bill Paul Message-Id: <199611070456.XAA06495@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Subject: Re: yp_next failure To: asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi Asami) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 23:56:17 -0500 (EST) Cc: current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199611070310.TAA24792@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> from "Satoshi Asami" at Nov 6, 96 07:10:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Satoshi Asami had to walk into mine and say: > I noticed that a lot of user processes started dying due to high > network load. For instance, I get things like this: > > === > >> rlogin vader > Last login: Wed Nov 6 18:41:44 from 136.152.64.181 > yp_next: clnt_call: RPC: Timed out > > rlogin: connection closed. > === > > and this is in /var/log/messages: > > === > Nov 6 18:43:16 vader /kernel: pid 22470 (login), uid 0: exited on signal 11 > === > > Other processes that died today were (this is just a small part of the > log): > > === > Nov 6 15:40:31 vader /kernel: pid 852 (sendmail), uid 0: exited on signal 11 > Nov 6 15:40:48 vader /kernel: pid 856 (from), uid 5531: exited on signal 11 > Nov 6 15:41:05 vader /kernel: pid 863 (ssh), uid 0: exited on signal 11 > Nov 6 15:48:26 vader /kernel: pid 994 (xterm), uid 0: exited on signal 11 > Nov 6 15:48:39 vader /kernel: pid 1019 (xterm), uid 0: exited on signal 11 > Nov 6 15:48:40 vader /kernel: pid 1021 (xterm), uid 0: exited on signal 11 > Nov 6 15:48:41 vader /kernel: pid 1029 (xterm), uid 0: exited on signal 11 > Nov 6 15:48:41 vader /kernel: pid 1025 (xterm), uid 0: exited on signal 11 > Nov 6 15:48:41 vader /kernel: pid 1027 (xterm), uid 0: exited on signal 11 > Nov 6 15:48:41 vader /kernel: pid 1026 (xterm), uid 0: exited on signal 11 > Nov 6 15:48:41 vader /kernel: pid 1024 (xterm), uid 0: exited on signal 11 > Nov 6 15:48:49 vader /kernel: pid 1017 (xterm), uid 0: exited on signal 11 > Nov 6 15:51:27 vader /kernel: pid 1436 (ssh), uid 0: exited on signal 11 > Nov 6 15:53:41 vader /kernel: pid 1653 (xterm), uid 0: exited on signal 11 > Nov 6 15:55:26 vader /kernel: pid 1791 (cron), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) > Nov 6 16:03:42 vader /kernel: pid 1888 (mailq), uid 0: exited on signal 11 > Nov 6 16:55:11 vader /kernel: pid 3804 (cron), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) > Nov 6 16:55:41 vader /kernel: pid 3805 (sendmail), uid 0: exited on signal 11 > === > > Are these many programs supposed to die when a YP lookup has failed? How do you know that it really failed? If you look at yplib.c, the yp_next() function retries connections until it succeeds, or _yp_dobind() fails (and if _yp_dobind() fails, you're likely to get another error message). I'm a little leery of generating error messages from inside the NIS library code in the first place -- I never see the Sun code do it -- but I'm not sure if this could really cause the problem. If an NIS call fails, then the higher level libc function that called it should interpret it as an 'end of file.' So if it barfs in the middle of a getpwent() sequence for instance, it would look as though it reached the end of the passwd database a little early. How the application reacts in this case sort of depends on... well, on the application. One thing that might cause a problem is a bug in the file descriptor handling in _yp_dobind(). In order to save on some syscall and RPC overhead, I made the code create an RPC client handle just once when a binding is set up rather that setting it up and tearing it down every time an NIS function is called. The problem with doing this is that _yp_dobind() can get confused if the following sequence happens: - an NIS function is called, either directly or as part of another libc function like getpwent(3) or getgrent(3). As part of this call, _yp_dobind() does a clnt_create(3) and gets a socket descriptor, which it caches. - after the call, the application decides to close all of its file descriptors by doing something like: for(i = 0; i < 256; i++) close(i); - the application then starts using descriptors on its own, say for opening files, and it ends up reusing the descriptor number that _yp_dobind() had previously gotten for its socket. - an NIS function is called again. Now the RPC socket descriptor is a file descriptor, and hijinks ensue. To avoid this problem, _yp_dobind() actually binds its end of the socket descriptor, which associates a port number with it. This port number is then saved as part of the dom_binding structure; when _yp_dobind() is called again later, it can go a getsockname() on the socket and check that the port number matches the one that was saved. (And you also test that getsockname() suceeds at all; if it barfs, then the socket may have been closed or turned into Something Completely Different (tm).) If it discovers that the socket descriptor is invalid, _yp_dobind() very carefully tries to allocate a new descriptor without bothering the one that was changed. So there are two things I can think of that might be causing this problem: 1) Somehow I goofed up the part of _yp_dobind() that replaces invalidated socket descriptors. (Note that this only applies to 2.2.x.) 2) When the yplib code generates error messages to what it thinks is stderr, it's actually generating messages somewhere else and hosing applications somehow. > The network has been congested lately, but I haven't seen this kind of > mass suicide until just recently. Unfortunately, I haven't run into this sort of thing much myself. Without being able to reliably duplicate the problem, I can't easily debug it. -Bill -- ============================================================================= -Bill Paul (212) 854-6020 | System Manager, Master of Unix-Fu Work: wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu | Center for Telecommunications Research Home: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu | Columbia University, New York City ============================================================================= "If you're ever in trouble, go to the CTR. Ask for Bill. He will help you." ============================================================================= From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 6 22:11:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA01931 for current-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 22:11:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA01922 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 22:11:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from hawk.pearson.udel.edu (hawk.pearson.udel.edu [128.175.64.150]) by who.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id WAA15006 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 22:11:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from hawk.pearson.udel.edu (localhost.udel.edu [127.0.0.1]) by hawk.pearson.udel.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA20537 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 01:05:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611070605.BAA20537@hawk.pearson.udel.edu> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Missing Files? Organization: Broken Toys Unlimited Reply-To: alexandr@hawk.pearson.udel.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <20533.847346711.1@hawk.pearson.udel.edu> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 01:05:11 -0500 From: Jerry Alexandratos Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to put together some ports. I had one fail miserably on me because it couldn't find /usr/share/misc/bison.{hairy,simple}. Of course, going into /usr/src/contrib/bison, I was able to copy them to their correct (?) destination, and get the port to compile correctly. Now, I haven't done a "make world" since I installed the latest snapshot, so that may explain why these files haven't been correctly installed. However, this begs the question about whether or not they should be in the /usr/share archives since they are needed to compile ports, etc... --Jerry 8) Jerry Alexandratos % "Nothing inhabits my (8 8) darkstar@strauss.udel.edu % thoughts, and oblivion (8 8) darkstar@canary.pearson.udel.edu % drives my desires." (8 From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 6 22:47:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA04542 for current-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 22:47:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA04528; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 22:47:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.7.6/8.6.9) id RAA22374; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:37:11 +1100 Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:37:11 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199611070637.RAA22374@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: dyson@FreeBSD.org, toor@dyson.iquest.net Subject: Re: Problems with bootstrap Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> MB: SuperMicro P6DNF, AMI bios.... >> >More info, isch() isn't ever sensing a character being typed. I >simply commented out the isch test (disabling the timeout), and >it works (getchar is okay.) Maybe the BIOS forgets to enable interrupts for isch(). The bootstrap could do it. >Any known AMI bios bugs? (I am NOT the person who knows all of >these bios things.) Don't know. Old AMI BIOSes work. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Wed Nov 6 23:55:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA09438 for current-outgoing; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 23:55:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA09432 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 23:55:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (wck-ca15-19.ix.netcom.com [207.94.231.51]) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with ESMTP id XAA22886; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 23:54:45 -0800 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.2/8.6.9) id XAA29424; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 23:54:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 23:54:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611070754.XAA29424@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu CC: current@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199611070456.XAA06495@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> (message from Bill Paul on Wed, 6 Nov 1996 23:56:17 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: yp_next failure From: asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * Unfortunately, I haven't run into this sort of thing much myself. * Without being able to reliably duplicate the problem, I can't easily * debug it. Well, I don't know what is wrong but I really think something has gone wrong recently. "make world" just died: ===== ===> ISO install -c -o bin -g bin -m 444 ISOamsa ISOamsb ISOamsc ISOamsn ISOamso ISOamsr ISObox ISOcyr1 ISOcyr2 ISOdia ISOgrk1 ISOgrk2 ISOgrk3 ISOgrk4 ISOlat1 ISOlat2 ISOnum ISOpub ISOtech /usr/share/sgml/ISO yp_first: clnt_call: RPC: Timed out *** Signal 11 Stop. ===== I've never had an "install" die on me like that. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 7 00:52:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA12408 for current-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 00:52:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA12397; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 00:51:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id JAA09355; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 09:50:53 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id JAA28940; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 09:50:53 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.2/8.6.9) id JAA00311; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 09:42:52 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199611070842.JAA00311@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Problems with bootstrap To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 09:42:52 +0100 (MET) Cc: dyson@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199611070420.XAA00282@dyson.iquest.net> from "John S. Dyson" at "Nov 6, 96 11:20:08 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As John S. Dyson wrote: > More info, isch() isn't ever sensing a character being typed. I > simply commented out the isch test (disabling the timeout), and > it works (getchar is okay.) Can you try int 0x16, subfn 1 in messy DOS? -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 7 01:19:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA14307 for current-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 01:19:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from scotty.masternet.it (masternet.it [194.184.65.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA14299 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 01:19:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gmarco@localhost) by scotty.masternet.it (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA02521 for current@freebsd.org; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 10:18:56 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 10:18:56 +0100 (MET) From: Gianmarco Giovannelli Message-Id: <199611070918.KAA02521@scotty.masternet.it> To: current@freebsd.org Subject: troubles with -current (ctm 2391) Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello everybody, I am experimenting stranges things with -current (till ctm 2391). The system suddendly simply stop to work. It freezes and even shutdown seem not able to kill the frozen task. Now in examples I am writing this message from a telnet session , while I have a Netscape 3.0 and a rxvt session with a ps -au frozen... xterm and color_xterm doesn't work anymore, syslogd complains about a lot of files or in use or missing. The userconfig (visual) thinks I have ne2000 on the pci while it is and it was till now a simple isa one. Boh, I really don't know what can be happened . I only applying the ctm from 2357 to 2391. The first make world fails with a strange : ===> gnu/lib/libregex cc -O -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libregex -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -c /usr/src /gnu/lib/libregex/regex.c -o regex.o building standard gnuregex library ranlib libgnuregex.a cc -p -O -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libregex -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -c /usr/ src/gnu/lib/libregex/regex.c -o regex.po cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 6 *** Error code 1 I did a make clean and cleandir, then I went in the gnu dir and maked it again succesfully, make world again (ok), rebuilt the kernel (Freebsd 3.0 , wow). What can be happened ? My machine has always works without problem since 2.2 (#2357). Thanks to everybody. Gianmarco From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 7 09:37:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA06438 for current-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 09:37:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA06381; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 09:36:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (skynet.ctr.columbia.edu [128.59.64.70]) by who.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with SMTP id IAA17232 ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 08:53:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wpaul@localhost) by skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA07481; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:53:14 -0500 From: Bill Paul Message-Id: <199611071653.LAA07481@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Subject: Re: yp_next failure To: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:53:13 -0500 (EST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199611070754.XAA29424@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> from "Satoshi Asami" at Nov 6, 96 11:54:42 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Satoshi Asami had to walk into mine and say: > * Unfortunately, I haven't run into this sort of thing much myself. > * Without being able to reliably duplicate the problem, I can't easily > * debug it. > > Well, I don't know what is wrong but I really think something has gone > wrong recently. "make world" just died: > > ===== > ===> ISO > install -c -o bin -g bin -m 444 ISOamsa ISOamsb ISOamsc ISOamsn ISOamso ISOamsr ISObox ISOcyr1 ISOcyr2 ISOdia ISOgrk1 ISOgrk2 ISOgrk3 ISOgrk4 ISOlat1 ISOlat2 ISOnum ISOpub ISOtech /usr/share/sgml/ISO > yp_first: clnt_call: RPC: Timed out > > *** Signal 11 > > Stop. > ===== > > I've never had an "install" die on me like that. > > Satoshi Well I haven't changed the NIS client code recently. However, we may as well try something, if you're up to it. I've got a patch for you to test for me. Actually, other people can test this for me too if only to help save my sanity. This is for -current or RELENG_2_2, but _not_ 2.1.x. I'm assuming you are using -current; the yplib code in 2.1.x still uses the old 'set up and tear down the RPC connection on each call' method. This patch does 2 things: it turns off a lot of error message printing by hiding the clnt_perror() calls under #ifdefs, and it adds the same socket descriptor sanity checking from _yp_dobind() to _yp_unbind(). Turning off the error messages may be overkill; you can #define YP_MESSAGES to turn them back on again. I'm more interested in the change to _yp_unbind(). Note that you need to rebuild libc for this. I think you can get away with just replacing libc.so for testing purposes since the programs that puked all appeared to be dynamically linked. Apply this to src/lib/libc/yp/yplib.c, make a new libc.so and see what happens. -Bill -- ============================================================================= -Bill Paul (212) 854-6020 | System Manager, Master of Unix-Fu Work: wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu | Center for Telecommunications Research Home: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu | Columbia University, New York City ============================================================================= "If you're ever in trouble, go to the CTR. Ask for Bill. He will help you." ============================================================================= *** yplib.c Thu Nov 7 11:24:35 1996 --- /home2/wpaul/yplib/yp/yplib.c Thu Nov 7 11:50:45 1996 *************** *** 28,34 **** */ #ifndef LINT ! static char *rcsid = "$Id: yplib.c,v 1.24 1996/07/13 20:23:13 wpaul Exp $"; #endif #include --- 28,34 ---- */ #ifndef LINT ! static char *rcsid = "$Id: yplib.c,v 1.6 1996/11/07 16:50:35 wpaul Exp $"; #endif #include *************** *** 354,359 **** --- 354,360 ---- client = clnttcp_create(&clnt_sin, YPBINDPROG, YPBINDVERS, &clnt_sock, 0, 0); if(client==NULL) { + #ifdef YP_MESSAGES /* * These conditions indicate ypbind just isn't * alive -- we probably don't want to shoot our *************** *** 364,369 **** --- 365,371 ---- (rpc_createerr.cf_stat != RPC_SYSTEMERROR && rpc_createerr.cf_error.re_errno == ECONNREFUSED)) clnt_pcreateerror("clnttcp_create"); + #endif if(new) free(ysd); return (YPERR_YPBIND); *************** *** 433,439 **** --- 435,443 ---- ysd->dom_client = clntudp_create(&ysd->dom_server_addr, YPPROG, YPVERS, tv, &ysd->dom_socket); if(ysd->dom_client==NULL) { + #ifdef YP_MESSAGES clnt_pcreateerror("clntudp_create"); + #endif ysd->dom_vers = -1; goto again; } *************** *** 472,479 **** _yp_unbind(ypb) struct dom_binding *ypb; { ! if (ypb->dom_client) ! clnt_destroy(ypb->dom_client); ypb->dom_client = NULL; ypb->dom_socket = -1; ypb->dom_vers = -1; --- 476,500 ---- _yp_unbind(ypb) struct dom_binding *ypb; { ! struct sockaddr_in check; ! int checklen = sizeof(struct sockaddr_in); ! ! if (ypb->dom_client) { ! /* Check the socket -- may have been hosed by the caller. */ ! if (getsockname(ypb->dom_socket, (struct sockaddr *)&check, ! &checklen) == -1 || check.sin_family != AF_INET || ! check.sin_port != ypb->dom_local_port) { ! int save, sock; ! ! sock = ypb->dom_socket; ! save = dup(ypb->dom_socket); ! clnt_destroy(ypb->dom_client); ! sock = dup2(save, sock); ! close(save); ! } else ! clnt_destroy(ypb->dom_client); ! } ! ypb->dom_client = NULL; ypb->dom_socket = -1; ypb->dom_vers = -1; *************** *** 561,567 **** --- 582,590 ---- r = clnt_call(ysd->dom_client, YPPROC_MATCH, xdr_ypreq_key, &yprk, xdr_ypresp_val, &yprv, tv); if(r != RPC_SUCCESS) { + #ifdef YP_MESSAGES clnt_perror(ysd->dom_client, "yp_match: clnt_call"); + #endif _yp_unbind(ysd); goto again; } *************** *** 631,637 **** --- 654,662 ---- r = clnt_call(ysd->dom_client, YPPROC_FIRST, xdr_ypreq_nokey, &yprnk, xdr_ypresp_key_val, &yprkv, tv); if(r != RPC_SUCCESS) { + #ifdef YP_MESSAGES clnt_perror(ysd->dom_client, "yp_first: clnt_call"); + #endif _yp_unbind(ysd); goto again; } *************** *** 693,699 **** --- 718,726 ---- r = clnt_call(ysd->dom_client, YPPROC_NEXT, xdr_ypreq_key, &yprk, xdr_ypresp_key_val, &yprkv, tv); if(r != RPC_SUCCESS) { + #ifdef YP_MESSAGES clnt_perror(ysd->dom_client, "yp_next: clnt_call"); + #endif _yp_unbind(ysd); goto again; } *************** *** 759,765 **** --- 786,794 ---- if (clnt_call(clnt, YPPROC_ALL, xdr_ypreq_nokey, &yprnk, xdr_ypresp_all_seq, &status, tv) != RPC_SUCCESS) { + #ifdef YP_MESSAGES clnt_perror(ysd->dom_client, "yp_next: clnt_call"); + #endif clnt_destroy(clnt); _yp_unbind(ysd); goto again; *************** *** 806,812 **** --- 835,843 ---- r = clnt_call(ysd->dom_client, YPPROC_ORDER, xdr_ypreq_nokey, &yprnk, xdr_ypresp_order, &ypro, tv); if(r != RPC_SUCCESS) { + #ifdef YP_MESSAGES clnt_perror(ysd->dom_client, "yp_order: clnt_call"); + #endif _yp_unbind(ysd); goto again; } *************** *** 851,857 **** --- 882,890 ---- r = clnt_call(ysd->dom_client, YPPROC_MASTER, xdr_ypreq_nokey, &yprnk, xdr_ypresp_master, &yprm, tv); if(r != RPC_SUCCESS) { + #ifdef YP_MESSAGES clnt_perror(ysd->dom_client, "yp_master: clnt_call"); + #endif _yp_unbind(ysd); goto again; } *************** *** 890,896 **** --- 923,931 ---- r = clnt_call(ysd->dom_client, YPPROC_MAPLIST, xdr_domainname,(char *)&indomain,xdr_ypresp_maplist,&ypml,tv); if (r != RPC_SUCCESS) { + #ifdef YP_MESSAGES clnt_perror(ysd->dom_client, "yp_maplist: clnt_call"); + #endif _yp_unbind(ysd); goto again; } From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 7 14:43:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA22866 for current-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 14:43:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA22844; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 14:43:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from whale.gu.kiev.ua ([194.93.190.4]) by who.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id HAA16833 ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 07:37:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from creator.gu.kiev.ua (stesin@creator.gu.kiev.ua [194.93.190.3]) by whale.gu.kiev.ua (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA78246; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:37:07 +0200 Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 17:37:06 +0200 (EET) From: Andrew Stesin X-Sender: stesin@creator.gu.kiev.ua To: Paul Traina cc: phk@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: please test -currents kernel In-Reply-To: <199611070452.UAA11593@precipice.shockwave.com> Message-ID: X-NCC-RegID: ua.gu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings to the release engineering team! People, are you going to make a SNAP of 2.2-prerelease soon? so the resource-limited guys like me will be able to get familiar with upcoming 2.2-RELEASE sooner? (My home machine is disk-space limited, and net connection is poor; I'm going to do a total reinstall of a pre-release to it, but I can't afford to have a copy CVS tree :( BTW I'm going to try tracking down a nasty bug I discovered in June SNAP recently, is it present in latest sources? I hope no, but... What I found is Gated (either 3.5b3 or 3.6a2) with OSPF tends to cause an immediate panic of 960612-SNAP as soon as topology becomes more complex and OSPF's routing table becomes bigger. Yes maybe Gated behaves nasty but it shouldn't be a reason for kernel to die... Thanks for your incredible work of making FreeBSD! -- Best, Andrew Stesin nic-hdl: ST73-RIPE From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 7 14:48:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA24319 for current-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 14:48:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA24258 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 14:48:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (root@cisigw.coppe.ufrj.br [146.164.2.31]) by who.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id FAA16141 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 05:10:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA10163 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:10:58 -0200 (EDT) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199611071310.LAA10163@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: Problems booting 2.2-SNAP To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:10:58 -0200 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Although I've running 2.1.0 and 2.1.5 for months, I cannot boot 2.2-SNAP boot.flp on my desktop machine. It's an ISA/VESA 486 DX2/66, 32M parity memory, Premio Motherboard, Chipset ALI. I run the visual configuration, delete every device I do not have, boot and the system stops after the "Uncompressing kernel" message. A strange thing is that the boot.flp has an odd size. Is this ok ? -rwxrwxr-x 1 104 ftpm 1136128 Oct 14 23:28 boot.flp -rwxrwxr-x 1 104 ftpm 1078784 Oct 14 23:24 boot4.flp -rwxrwxr-x 1 104 ftpm 1228800 Oct 14 23:26 fixit.flp I'm trying to keep current to help the develoment of FreeBSD. TIA, Jonny PS: Is it possible to upgrade from 2.1.5 to 2.2 from the sources ? -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 ( Job ) jonny@cisi.coppe.ufrj.br Network Manager UFRJ/COPPE/CISI Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 7 14:48:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA24411 for current-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 14:48:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA24378 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 14:48:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from answerman.mindspring.com (answerman.mindspring.com [204.180.128.8]) by who.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id FAA16177 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 05:18:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlb.users.mindspring.com (user-168-121-25-139.dialup.mindspring.com [168.121.25.139]) by answerman.mindspring.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA21295 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 08:27:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3281E1CE.41C67EA6@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 08:19:10 -0500 From: Ron Bolin X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Sttrange Behavior Observer in X Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk After updating from around a 10-26-96 current to 11-5-96 and todays 11-7-96 kernel. I am having problems when runnig X. My PS2 mouse at times reacts strange when I move my cursor to another window too fast. It will charge to the far right of the screen when I am moving it to the left. Another symtom is not being able to input from the keyboard, freezing windows, and garbage appearing in an xterm, and not being able to use the scroll bars at times. An exit from X will tempoarily clear the problem. It was working just fine under a 10-26-96 version of current. So I went back to the 10-26 version of /usr/src/sys tree mixed with the 11-5-96 source tree and it works fine. I then removed the old current /usr/src/sys directory tree and did a cvsup last night. Still have the same problem with the new sys directory tree. Questions: 1. By just replacing currents (11-5-96) sys tree with my 10-26-96 sys tree it fixed the problem. What dependancies exist that would not make todays sys tree work with 11-5-96 source tree? 2. Other than make clean; make cleandir; and make world; is there anything else that I might have skipped to create this problem? I am running fvwm95, rxvt, Netscape 3.01 gold. My system is a P6NDF 200 Pentium Pro e/w 64MB RAM, Adaptech 2940UW, Wide & narrow SCSI disks, CD and TAPE. Any thought would be appreciated. Should I install the new 2.2 X11R6, I ams using the 2.1.5 version of X11R6. Ron -- **************************************************************************** Ron Bolin rlb@mindspring.com, http://www.mindspring.com/~rlb/ GSU: gs01rlb@panther.gsu.edu matrlbx@indigo4.cs.gsu.edu Home: 770-992-8877 **************************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 7 14:52:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA25315 for current-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 14:52:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA25290; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 14:52:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from answerman.mindspring.com (answerman.mindspring.com [204.180.128.8]) by who.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id EAA15963 ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 04:27:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlb.users.mindspring.com (user-168-121-25-139.dialup.mindspring.com [168.121.25.139]) by answerman.mindspring.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA16299; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 07:36:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3281D5B7.167EB0E7@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 07:27:35 -0500 From: Ron Bolin X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dyson@freebsd.org CC: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with bootstrap References: <199611070420.XAA00282@dyson.iquest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk John S. Dyson wrote: > > > Using the standard biosboot, I am having problems selecting > > the kernel (the bootstrap does not respond to keyboard activity > > at all.) I can boot /kernel, but that is it. Before boot, > > I can configure the bios, with no problems. After boot, freebsd > > works fine. > > > > Does anyone have any pointers or suggestions for solving this > > problem? I am dead until this thing is fixed (all I will > > venture to do is to boot my existing kernel :-(.) > > > > MB: SuperMicro P6DNF, AMI bios.... > > > More info, isch() isn't ever sensing a character being typed. I > simply commented out the isch test (disabling the timeout), and > it works (getchar is okay.) > > Any known AMI bios bugs? (I am NOT the person who knows all of > these bios things.) > > John I observerd this on my P6NDF SuperMicro when booting from a floppy only. I had to depress the space bar b4 the boot sequence hit the floppy to be able to input from the key board. This was with the 10-14-96 boot.flp. But since I didn't need to beeot from floppy, I never thought that much of it, figured it was a fluke with my bios. Ron -- **************************************************************************** Ron Bolin rlb@mindspring.com, http://www.mindspring.com/~rlb/ GSU: gs01rlb@panther.gsu.edu matrlbx@indigo4.cs.gsu.edu Home: 770-992-8877 **************************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 7 16:17:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA24896 for current-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 14:50:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA24787 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 14:50:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [146.254.1.1]) by who.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id EAA15952 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 04:23:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from salomon.mchp.siemens.de (salomon.mchp.siemens.de [139.23.33.13]) by david.siemens.de (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id NAA00148 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 13:20:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from curry.zfe.siemens.de (root@curry.zfe.siemens.de [146.180.31.23]) by salomon.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.2/8.8.0) with ESMTP id NAA00340 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 13:23:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from server.us.tld (server.us.tld [192.168.16.33]) by curry.zfe.siemens.de (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id NAA21722 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 13:23:31 +0100 (MET) Received: (from andre@localhost) by server.us.tld (8.8.2/8.8.2) id NAA13569 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 13:23:31 +0100 (MET) From: Andre Albsmeier Message-Id: <199611071223.NAA13569@server.us.tld> Subject: Where do I get the start for src-2_2 via CTM? To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 13:23:30 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi *, I have both src-2_1 and src-cur running with updates via ctm. No I have subscribed to the src-2_2 mailinglist and received already src-2.2.0002.gz and src-2.2.0003.gz. Now I don't know where to get the first start-file for src-2_2. For src-2_1 and src-cur I had downloaded src-2.1.0015C.gz and src-cur.1600A.gz. I looked on ftp.freebsd.org and on freefall.cdrom.com but didn't find anything. Maybe somebody knows weher to look... Thanks a lot in advance Andre From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 7 16:31:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA20031 for current-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 16:31:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA20021 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 16:31:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.2/8.7.3) id QAA07049; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 16:29:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 16:29:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611080029.QAA07049@vader.cs.berkeley.edu> To: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu CC: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199611071653.LAA07481@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> (message from Bill Paul on Thu, 7 Nov 1996 11:53:13 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: yp_next failure From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I was wrong about the patch making no difference, it did indeed turn off the messages. (So instead of seeing "oh my gosh...yp_next isn't feeling well...segmentation fault", it's simply seg faults.) By the way, I recompiled sendmail with -g and this is what I got. ------- (gdb) run -q Starting program: /usr/obj/a/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/src/sendmail -q Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x2008ebc6 in _yp_dobind () (gdb) bt #0 0x2008ebc6 in _yp_dobind () #1 0x2008f458 in yp_first () #2 0x2007ac62 in endpwent () #3 0x2007a48f in endpwent () #4 0x2007a21a in getpwuid () #5 0x6e80 in sm_getpwuid (uid=0) at /a/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/src/conf.c:4081 #6 0x17fbe in main (argc=2, argv=0xefbfc2ac, envp=0xefbfc2b8) at /a/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/src/main.c:284 ------- So you were right about yp_dobind() getting confused. I recompiled the yp part of libc with -g too, and here is a more detailed report: ------- (gdb) run -q Starting program: /usr/obj/a/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/src/sendmail -q Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x2008f036 in _yp_dobind (dom=0x200c88b0 "mammoth", ypdb=0xefbf9e60) at /a/src/lib/libc/yp/yplib.c:269 269 clnt_destroy(ysd->dom_client); (gdb) p ysd $1 = (struct dom_binding *) 0x5c000 (gdb) p *ysd $2 = {dom_pnext = 0x0, dom_domain = "mammoth", '\000' , dom_server_addr = {sin_len = 16 '\020', sin_family = 2 '\002', sin_port = 6659, sin_addr = {s_addr = 421929088}, sin_zero = "\000\000\000\000\000\000\000"}, dom_server_port = 6659, dom_socket = -1, dom_client = 0x0, dom_local_port = 14083, dom_vers = -1} ------- Since clnt_destroy is a macro that takes a pointer and deferences it, I guess that's the problem. Line 269 is this: ------- sock = ysd->dom_socket; save = dup(ysd->dom_socket); clnt_destroy(ysd->dom_client); <=== ysd->dom_vers = 0; ysd->dom_client = NULL; sock = dup2(save, sock); ------- in case the patch has shifted things around a bit. So, I changed this to: ------- sock = ysd->dom_socket; save = dup(ysd->dom_socket); if (ysd->dom_client) clnt_destroy(ysd->dom_client); ysd->dom_vers = 0; ysd->dom_client = NULL; sock = dup2(save, sock); ------- (hey, stop laughing). Now things seem to have "calmed down", at least sendmail/ssh/from/mailq don't seg fault any more. I'll have to beat on it a little more, I'm now going to reboot the machine with the new libc and see how it goes. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 7 16:42:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA21604 for current-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 16:42:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (skynet.ctr.columbia.edu [128.59.64.70]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA21595; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 16:42:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wpaul@localhost) by skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id TAA07832; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 19:42:26 -0500 From: Bill Paul Message-Id: <199611080042.TAA07832@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Subject: Re: yp_next failure To: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 19:42:25 -0500 (EST) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199611080029.QAA07049@vader.cs.berkeley.edu> from "Satoshi Asami" at Nov 7, 96 04:29:51 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Satoshi Asami had to walk into mine and say: > I was wrong about the patch making no difference, it did indeed turn > off the messages. (So instead of seeing "oh my gosh...yp_next isn't > feeling well...segmentation fault", it's simply seg faults.) Hm. I think I may have missed a message in here somewhere. Haven't received anything from the -current mailing list since early this afternoon. (Freefall is reachable though. Anyway.) > By the way, I recompiled sendmail with -g and this is what I got. This is what I wanted to do myself, but I can't reach your machine from here. :) [chop] > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. > 0x2008f036 in _yp_dobind (dom=0x200c88b0 "mammoth", ypdb=0xefbf9e60) > at /a/src/lib/libc/yp/yplib.c:269 > 269 clnt_destroy(ysd->dom_client); > (gdb) p ysd > $1 = (struct dom_binding *) 0x5c000 > (gdb) p *ysd > $2 = {dom_pnext = 0x0, dom_domain = "mammoth", '\000' , > dom_server_addr = {sin_len = 16 '\020', sin_family = 2 '\002', > sin_port = 6659, sin_addr = {s_addr = 421929088}, > sin_zero = "\000\000\000\000\000\000\000"}, dom_server_port = 6659, > dom_socket = -1, dom_client = 0x0, dom_local_port = 14083, dom_vers = -1} > ------- > > Since clnt_destroy is a macro that takes a pointer and deferences it, > I guess that's the problem. Ah. Hurm. Now I have to take a close look at this and see how dom_client got to be NULL in the first place. I thought I'd covered all the cases where this could happen. > ------- > sock = ysd->dom_socket; > save = dup(ysd->dom_socket); > if (ysd->dom_client) > clnt_destroy(ysd->dom_client); > ysd->dom_vers = 0; > ysd->dom_client = NULL; > sock = dup2(save, sock); > ------- > > (hey, stop laughing). I'm not laughing; I'm positively ecstatic. :) > Now things seem to have "calmed down", at least > sendmail/ssh/from/mailq don't seg fault any more. I'll have to beat > on it a little more, I'm now going to reboot the machine with the new > libc and see how it goes. Okay, I'm going to see if I can figure out what puts _yp_dobind() into this state. I'll try to get something into the tree tonight. I don't think FreeBSD 2.1.x is vulnerable to this but I'll take a peek there too. Thanks for the debugging effort. -Bill -- ============================================================================= -Bill Paul (212) 854-6020 | System Manager, Master of Unix-Fu Work: wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu | Center for Telecommunications Research Home: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu | Columbia University, New York City ============================================================================= "If you're ever in trouble, go to the CTR. Ask for Bill. He will help you." ============================================================================= From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 7 18:19:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA28969 for current-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 18:19:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from eel.dataplex.net (eel.dataplex.net [208.2.87.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA28963 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 18:19:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from [208.2.87.4] (cod [208.2.87.4]) by eel.dataplex.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA18649; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 20:19:08 -0600 (CST) X-Sender: rkw@mail.dataplex.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199611071223.NAA13569@server.us.tld> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 20:03:07 -0600 To: Andre Albsmeier From: Richard Wackerbarth Subject: Re: Where do I get the start for src-2_2 via CTM? Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Hi *, > >I have both src-2_1 and src-cur running with updates via ctm. >No I have subscribed to the src-2_2 mailinglist and received >already src-2.2.0002.gz and src-2.2.0003.gz. Now I don't know >where to get the first start-file for src-2_2. When I successfully get it uploaded, it will be in /pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-2.2/ctm. The start file is src-2.2.0001.gz WHICH IS NOT the partial file there now. -rw-rw-r-- 1 library library 24422371 Nov 6 10:57 src-2.2.0001.gz -rw-rw-r-- 1 library library 18195 Nov 6 15:07 src-2.2.0002.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 library library 378 Nov 7 01:01 src-2.2.0003.gz -rw-rw-r-- 1 library library 14998 Nov 7 08:13 src-2.2.0004.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 library library 1922 Nov 7 13:08 src-2.2.0005.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 library library 1030 Nov 7 19:20 src-2.2.0006.gz To create a smaller start file, I can do a cross-over from the 2.1 (or perhaps -current) stream. In order for it to be useful, you would need to save the tree (or the updates to generate it) as of a particular update. You would then apply a crossover update and pick up the 2.2 stream. Since you are keeping more than one tree, I would suggest that you consider switching to keeping the cvs tree instead. You can extract any otf the trees from it. You also have the ability to go back in time. I haven't made the public announcement of the existance of the 2.2 feed until we get "all the ducks in a row". However, feel free to sign up. I haven't made the conversion to the latest ctm generator, therefore both feeds are "fast". I will get this fixed, however, it should not be a big problem in the short term. I don't expect any massive changes that soon. From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 7 18:26:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA29394 for current-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 18:26:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA29387 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 18:26:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from current1.whistle.com (current1.whistle.com [207.76.205.22]) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id SAA00756 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 18:24:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <328299DD.41C67EA6@whistle.com> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 18:24:29 -0800 From: Julian Elischer Organization: Whistle Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: "the alternate system clock has died" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "the alternate system clock has died" is the message that system -vmstat is giving me.. vmstat -i shows the rtc0 interupt rate (over the whole booted uptime) gradually dropping so I guess it's right.. rtc0 has stopped interrupting.. there was discussion of this a few weeks agao but I skimmed it, and now I can't find it in the archives. was there a resolution? this is from a -current of about 3 weeks ago. it seems to die at some stage when we have both network operation and sio action. (and disk too I guess) I can get it to happen pretty reliably on one machine. I'll substitute hardware and see if it can be made to happen there too. any leads? julian From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 7 22:36:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA11363 for current-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 22:36:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA11346 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 22:36:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by who.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with SMTP id VAA20351 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 21:38:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from rover.village.org [127.0.0.1] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 0.56 #1) id E0vLjeQ-0006es-00; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 22:38:46 -0700 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Strange hang in Nov 3 kernel Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 22:38:46 -0700 From: Warner Losh Message-Id: Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I had a strange hang with a Nov 3 -current kernel: FreeBSD rover.village.org 3.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Sun Nov 3 17:02:05 MST 1996 imp@rover.village.org:/jaz/FreeBSD/current/src/sys/compile/ROVER i386 Unfortunately, this happened while I was at work, and my wife needed the machine rebooted to do some work for the SCA, so I couldn't look into it. This machine is basically a two user machine. I use the color console head in X running X Inside's server for my #9GXE. My wife uses an X terminal for email. We get about 300-500 email messages a day between the two of us. At the time, about four copies of emacs were running (two for my wife, one for me at work (via ssh) and one for the console. There were about 5 xterms on the various displays, an xclock and maybe two or three sshds running. I have a vmstat -s ; vmstat -m record from every 10 minutes leading up to the crash, if that would help. I didn't see anything odd, but I thought I'd offer the data. This hang happened on Nov 5, so the machine had been up at most two days. The strange thing was that the hang happened at 10:22 (the last time my emacs window updated), but the stats are there right up until I had her reboot at 10:45ish (the 10:20, 10:30 and 10:40 stats are all there). There were no network interruptions that were detectible during this time, and traffic to other machines on the net in my basement from my office was still happening. No hardware changes recently on this machine. Warner P.S. Here's the diff between 10:20 and 10:30 for date ; vmstat -s ; vmstat -m run at those times. --- - Thu Nov 7 22:35:49 1996 +++ /tmp/stats9611051030.25579 Thu Nov 7 22:35:49 1996 @@ -1,11 +1,11 @@ -Tue Nov 5 10:20:00 MST 1996 - 623386 cpu context switches - 19753275 device interrupts - 452741 software interrupts - 557798 traps - 5825304 system calls - 299 swap pager pageins - 770 swap pager pages paged in +Tue Nov 5 10:30:00 MST 1996 + 624833 cpu context switches + 19890950 device interrupts + 453813 software interrupts + 560336 traps + 5833800 system calls + 300 swap pager pageins + 771 swap pager pages paged in 1078 swap pager pageouts 3111 swap pager pages paged out 2708 vnode pager pageins @@ -15,31 +15,31 @@ 148 page daemon wakeups 391891 pages examined by the page daemon 7010 pages reactivated - 201744 copy-on-write faults - 177052 zero fill pages zeroed + 202985 copy-on-write faults + 177918 zero fill pages zeroed 7 intransit blocking page faults - 514954 total VM faults taken - 465804 pages freed + 517489 total VM faults taken + 468371 pages freed 94 pages freed by daemon - 315721 pages freed by exiting processes - 3637 pages active - 808 pages inactive + 317524 pages freed by exiting processes + 3640 pages active + 804 pages inactive 907 pages in VM cache - 2167 pages wired down - 245 pages free + 2166 pages wired down + 247 pages free 4096 bytes per page - 899278 total name lookups + 901901 total name lookups cache hits (62% pos + 1% neg) system 7% per-directory deletions 1%, falsehits 5%, toolong 0% Memory statistics by bucket size Size In Use Free Requests HighWater Couldfree 16 46 466 1298 1280 0 - 32 141 115 12075 640 0 - 64 2945 63 101124 320 0 - 128 5615 81 202559 160 249 - 256 2706 46 222976 80 0 - 512 80 48 9185 40 308 - 1K 65 191 442693 20 51038 + 32 142 114 12146 640 0 + 64 2946 62 101543 320 0 + 128 5622 74 203806 160 249 + 256 2709 43 223174 80 0 + 512 81 47 9244 40 308 + 1K 64 192 443526 20 51862 2K 43 95 1478 10 690 4K 10 1 83 5 0 8K 4 1 227 5 0 @@ -68,40 +68,40 @@ Type InUse MemUse HighUse Limit Requests Limit Limit Size(s) mbuf 1 1K 1K 18636K 1 0 0 1K devbuf 45 110K 110K 18636K 114 0 0 16,32,256,512,1K,2K,4K,16K - socket 48 12K 14K 18636K 2412 0 0 256 - pcb 47 9K 11K 18636K 3929 0 0 16,32,128,256,512 + socket 48 12K 14K 18636K 2424 0 0 256 + pcb 47 9K 11K 18636K 3953 0 0 16,32,128,256,512 routetbl 41 5K 6K 18636K 145 0 0 16,32,64,128,256 - zombie 0 0K 1K 18636K 8965 0 0 128 + zombie 0 0K 1K 18636K 9023 0 0 128 ifaddr 8 1K 1K 18636K 8 0 0 64,128 - namei 1 1K 5K 18636K 426238 0 0 1K + namei 0 0K 5K 18636K 427071 0 0 1K ioctlops 0 0K 1K 18636K 6 0 0 512 - cred 26 4K 4K 18636K 1962 0 0 128 - pgrp 28 1K 1K 18636K 2233 0 0 32 - session 19 1K 1K 18636K 521 0 0 32 + cred 26 4K 4K 18636K 1975 0 0 128 + pgrp 28 1K 1K 18636K 2242 0 0 32 + session 19 1K 1K 18636K 524 0 0 32 mount 7 4K 4K 18636K 7 0 0 512 vnodes 2555 318K 318K 18636K 3568 0 0 16,128,256 namecache 2511 165K 165K 18636K 2511 0 0 64,8K UFS quota 1 8K 8K 18636K 1 0 0 8K UFS mount 19 33K 33K 18636K 19 0 0 512,1K,2K,8K - VM map 54 13K 19K 18636K 9019 0 0 128,256 + VM map 55 13K 19K 18636K 9078 0 0 128,256 VM mapent 75 5K 5K 18636K 75 0 0 64 - VM object 2419 303K 312K 18636K 176624 0 0 128 + VM object 2425 304K 312K 18636K 177729 0 0 128 VM pgdata 371 58K 58K 18636K 462 0 0 64,128,256,512,1K,2K,4K,8K - file 107 7K 10K 18636K 91468 0 0 64 - file desc 45 6K 9K 18636K 9014 0 0 128,256 - lockf 3 1K 1K 18636K 6752 0 0 64 - proc 52 24K 36K 18636K 9256 0 0 16,64,256,512 - subproc 49 3K 4K 18636K 9633 0 0 32,256 - FFS node 2479 620K 628K 18636K 199901 0 0 256 + file 108 7K 10K 18636K 91827 0 0 64 + file desc 46 6K 9K 18636K 9073 0 0 128,256 + lockf 3 1K 1K 18636K 6812 0 0 64 + proc 53 24K 36K 18636K 9315 0 0 16,64,256,512 + subproc 50 3K 4K 18636K 9698 0 0 32,256 + FFS node 2479 620K 628K 18636K 199952 0 0 256 ip_moptions 0 0K 1K 18636K 2 0 0 128 in_multi 2 1K 1K 18636K 2 0 0 64 ether_multi 1 1K 1K 18636K 1 0 0 32 MSDOSFS mount 1 4K 4K 18636K 1 0 0 4K - temp 61 9K 22K 18636K 8958 0 0 16,32,64,128,256,512,1K,4K,8K + temp 63 10K 22K 18636K 9010 0 0 16,32,64,128,256,512,1K,4K,8K ttys 482 66K 66K 18636K 1028 0 0 128,2K sysctl 0 0K 1K 18636K 2 0 0 32 BIO buffer 79 106K 245K 18636K 17771 0 0 512,1K,2K - select 22 6K 6K 18636K 1093 0 0 256 + select 22 6K 6K 18636K 1099 0 0 256 Memory Totals: In Use Free Requests - 1895K 454K 993702 + 1896K 453K 996529 From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 7 22:37:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA11543 for current-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 22:37:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA11518 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 22:37:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by who.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id VAA20133 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 21:00:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.2/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA09219; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 20:56:35 -0800 (PST) To: Andre Albsmeier cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where do I get the start for src-2_2 via CTM? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 07 Nov 1996 13:23:30 +0100." <199611071223.NAA13569@server.us.tld> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 20:56:35 -0800 Message-ID: <9216.847428995@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > For src-2_1 and src-cur I had downloaded src-2.1.0015C.gz and > src-cur.1600A.gz. I looked on ftp.freebsd.org and on > freefall.cdrom.com but didn't find anything. It's in ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-2.2/ctm Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 7 22:37:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA11682 for current-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 22:37:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA11656; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 22:37:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by who.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id UAA20103 ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 20:56:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.2/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA09189; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 20:52:29 -0800 (PST) To: Andrew Stesin cc: Paul Traina , phk@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: please test -currents kernel In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 07 Nov 1996 17:37:06 +0200." Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 20:52:29 -0800 Message-ID: <9187.847428749@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > People, are you going to make a SNAP of 2.2-prerelease soon? so the Either I or Poul-Henning will be doing an ALPHA just as soon as some pending 2.2R stuff gets integrated. > BTW I'm going to try tracking down a nasty bug I discovered in > June SNAP recently, is it present in latest sources? I hope no, but... Probably - please let us know ASAP! Thanks. Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 7 22:37:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA11558 for current-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 22:37:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA11522 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 22:37:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by who.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id UAA20124 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 20:59:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.2/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA09208; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 20:55:19 -0800 (PST) To: Ron Bolin cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sttrange Behavior Observer in X In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 07 Nov 1996 08:19:10 EST." <3281E1CE.41C67EA6@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 07 Nov 1996 20:55:19 -0800 Message-ID: <9206.847428919@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I am having problems when runnig X. My PS2 mouse at times reacts strange > when I move my cursor to another window too fast. It will charge to Try substituting *only* /sys/i386/isa/syscons.c between the old and the new and let me know if your problem persists. Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 7 22:39:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA12278 for current-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 22:39:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA12264; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 22:39:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from dcs.stu.rpi.edu (kdupuis@dcs.stu.rpi.edu [128.113.161.29]) by who.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id UAA19900 ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 20:26:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (kdupuis@localhost) by dcs.stu.rpi.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA00237; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 23:26:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 7 Nov 1996 23:26:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Kenneth J. Dupuis" To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Compile error Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just grabbed the latest -current via FTP and compiled it with no problems. Its been up and running on a heavily-used server for about 3 hours now. The only thing I can notice is that it takes a long time to close a TCP/IP port that sendmail was using. It says that the connection is "ESTABLISHED" long after the email has been delivered. Due to this problem and a lot of "open" ports I grabbed -stable and tried to compile it. About 3/4 of the way through it exits with this error: param.c - timezone value does not match That's the best I can remember it right now. Anyone heard of this and know a way to fix it? From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 7 23:04:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA13815 for current-outgoing; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 23:04:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA13810 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 1996 23:04:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.7.6/8.6.9) id SAA32137; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 18:00:58 +1100 Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 18:00:58 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199611080700.SAA32137@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: current@freebsd.org, julian@whistle.com Subject: Re: "the alternate system clock has died" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >"the alternate system clock has died" >... >there was discussion of this a few weeks agao but I skimmed it, and >now I can't find it in the archives. > >was there a resolution? No. Perhaps rtcin() needs a longer delay. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 8 00:03:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA17261 for current-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 00:03:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [146.254.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA17254 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 00:03:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from salomon.mchp.siemens.de (salomon.mchp.siemens.de [139.23.33.13]) by david.siemens.de (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id IAA05880 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 08:59:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from curry.zfe.siemens.de (root@curry.zfe.siemens.de [146.180.31.23]) by salomon.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.2/8.8.0) with ESMTP id JAA03827 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 09:03:09 +0100 (MET) Received: from server.us.tld (server.us.tld [192.168.16.33]) by curry.zfe.siemens.de (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id JAA23102 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 09:03:07 +0100 (MET) Received: from printfix.us.tld (printfix.us.tld [192.168.21.31]) by server.us.tld (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id JAA01465 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 09:03:07 +0100 (MET) Received: (from andre@localhost) by printfix.us.tld (8.8.2/8.8.2) id JAA07960 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 09:03:06 +0100 (MET) From: Andre Albsmeier Message-Id: <199611080803.JAA07960@printfix.us.tld> Subject: Re: Where do I get the start for src_2.2 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 09:03:06 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >I have both src-2_1 and src-cur running with updates via ctm. > >No I have subscribed to the src-2_2 mailinglist and received > >already src-2.2.0002.gz and src-2.2.0003.gz. Now I don't know > >where to get the first start-file for src-2_2. > > When I successfully get it uploaded, it will be in > /pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-2.2/ctm. > The start file is src-2.2.0001.gz WHICH IS NOT the partial file there now. Thanks a lot to everybody who answered me. I have found them today. They seemed to have appeared shortly after my post to freebsd-current :-). > To create a smaller start file, I can do a cross-over from the 2.1 (or > perhaps -current) stream. > In order for it to be useful, you would need to save the tree (or the > updates to generate it) as of a particular update. You would then apply a I am just getting the src-2.2.0001.gz because I have to start today with it. I just wondered about receiving the ctm files already but I had no start file... > Since you are keeping more than one tree, I would suggest that you consider > switching to keeping the cvs tree instead. You can extract any otf the > trees from it. You also have the ability to go back in time. I usually used stable on my machines here. But then I heard about the existence of netatalk support in current, which would allow me to throw my last Linux machine out :-). So I tried current, but now I will use 2.2 because I prefer stablity over new features. Andre From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 8 05:38:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA03399 for current-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 05:38:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from groa.uct.ac.za (groa.uct.ac.za [137.158.128.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA03393; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 05:38:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by groa.uct.ac.za via sendmail with stdio id for current@freebsd.org; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:34:29 +0200 (SAT) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2 built 1996-Oct-2) Message-Id: From: rv@groa.uct.ac.za (Russell Vincent) Subject: Large RAM on ASUS P/E-P55T2P4D To: jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com (Joe Greco) Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:34:28 +0200 (SAT) Cc: current@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199610291827.MAA24642@brasil.moneng.mei.com> from "Joe Greco" at Oct 29, 96 12:27:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Joe Greco wrote (about the ASUS P/E-P55T2P4D): > I can't get anything more than 192MB to work reliably on this board > (6 x 32MB SIMM modules) - unless we go with the mega mondo $$$$ 64MB > SIMM's.. and even those I have doubts about. We put the 4 that we > have on a P/I-P55T2P4 board and it refused to work until we relaxed > the RAM timing to 70ns. Gives me a sick feeling. Seems I may be encountering this problem on some of my 5 machines with 256MB, after all. Our supplier has just pointed me to pages 12-33 of: http://www.intel.com/design/pcisets/datashts/inte2.htm (which I am struggling to download on our poor international link). Apparently this document describes a method for increasing the current flow to DRAM (programatically) because as you put more chips into an Intel 430HX motherboard (probably any motherboard), the current flow drops, moving the trigger level (I had a nice little diagram drawn for me which would be tricky to duplicate here :-) ). This makes some sense to me (even with my poor technical knowledge) as the 4x64MB chips we are using are quite large. Reducing the DRAM timing to 70ns will also help, although, as you say, isn't suitable. If anyone does add some code for this, I would be most interested in testing it. I will try myself (when I can get the datasheet), but my programming skills are not good, so don't rely on me. :-) -Russell From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 8 06:13:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA05288 for current-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 06:13:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from watt.cae.uwm.edu (hench@watt.cae.uwm.edu [129.89.52.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA05283 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 06:13:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from hench@localhost) by watt.cae.uwm.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA11888 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 08:13:39 -0600 From: Mike Hench Message-Id: <199611081413.IAA11888@watt.cae.uwm.edu> Subject: is RELENG_2_2 the thing to build for 2.2 pre-alpha ? To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 08:13:39 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk sorry for what may be a dumb question, but is the RELENG_2_2 branch what i should build for 2.2 testing or should i still build from HEAD ? is this coreect ? cvs co -r RELENG_2_2 src build it, bang on it, etc... thank you. mike hench hench@cae.uwm.edu From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 8 06:25:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA05865 for current-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 06:25:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA05858 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 06:25:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.2/8.6.9) with ESMTP id GAA10043; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 06:21:24 -0800 (PST) To: Mike Hench cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: is RELENG_2_2 the thing to build for 2.2 pre-alpha ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 08 Nov 1996 08:13:39 CST." <199611081413.IAA11888@watt.cae.uwm.edu> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 06:21:24 -0800 Message-ID: <10041.847462884@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > sorry for what may be a dumb question, but is the RELENG_2_2 > branch what i should build for 2.2 testing or should i still build from Yes. > is this coreect ? > > cvs co -r RELENG_2_2 src Add also -P so empty directories are pruned and you've got it. Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 8 08:44:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA21324 for current-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 08:44:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.moneng.mei.com (brasil.moneng.mei.com [151.186.109.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA21303; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 08:44:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by brasil.moneng.mei.com (8.7.Beta.1/8.7.Beta.1) id KAA12381; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 10:43:12 -0600 From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199611081643.KAA12381@brasil.moneng.mei.com> Subject: Re: Large RAM on ASUS P/E-P55T2P4D To: rv@groa.uct.ac.za (Russell Vincent) Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 10:43:12 -0600 (CST) Cc: jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com, current@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Russell Vincent" at Nov 8, 96 03:34:28 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Joe Greco wrote (about the ASUS P/E-P55T2P4D): > > I can't get anything more than 192MB to work reliably on this board > > (6 x 32MB SIMM modules) - unless we go with the mega mondo $$$$ 64MB > > SIMM's.. and even those I have doubts about. We put the 4 that we > > have on a P/I-P55T2P4 board and it refused to work until we relaxed > > the RAM timing to 70ns. Gives me a sick feeling. > > Seems I may be encountering this problem on some of my 5 machines > with 256MB, after all. Our supplier has just pointed me to pages 12-33 of: > > http://www.intel.com/design/pcisets/datashts/inte2.htm > > (which I am struggling to download on our poor international link). You are really looking for the data on MAD... 3.2.13. DRAMEC - DRAM EXTENDED CONTROL REGISTER Address Offset: 56h Default Value: 00h Access: Read/Write This 8-bit register contains additional controls for main memory DRAM operating modes and features. [...] Bit Descriptions 2:1 Memory Address Drive Strength (MAD): This field controls the strength of the output buffers driving the MA and MWE# pins. Bit 2 Bit 1 MAA[1:0]/MAB[1:0] MA[11:2]/MWE# 0 0 8 mA 8mA 0 1 8 mA 12mA 1 0 12 mA 8mA 1 1 12 mA 12mA What is this? Well.. 2.2. DRAM Interface Name Type Description MA[11:2] O Memory Address: This is the row and column address 3V for DRAM. These buffers include programmable size selection. MAA[1:0] O Memory Address Copy A: One copy of the MAs that 3V change during a burst read or write of DRAM. These buffers include programmable size selection. MAB[1:0] O Memory Address Copy B: A second copy of the MAs 3V that change during a burst read or write of DRAM. These buffers include programmable size selection. MWE# O Memory Write Enable. MWE# should be used as the 3V write enable for the memory data bus. This signal has a programmable size selection (see DRAMEC[MAD] field). > Apparently this document describes a method for increasing the > current flow to DRAM (programatically) because as you put more > chips into an Intel 430HX motherboard (probably any motherboard), the > current flow drops, moving the trigger level (I had a nice little > diagram drawn for me which would be tricky to duplicate here :-) ). > This makes some sense to me (even with my poor technical knowledge) > as the 4x64MB chips we are using are quite large. Reducing the DRAM > timing to 70ns will also help, although, as you say, isn't suitable. > > If anyone does add some code for this, I would be most interested in > testing it. I will try myself (when I can get the datasheet), but > my programming skills are not good, so don't rely on me. :-) If I knew jack diddly about how to do this, I would. Failing that, I am providing this data in the hopes that some more enterprising hacker who has a clue about this sort of stuff can figure it out. However, it really seems to me like this should be a BIOS configuration option, because by the time you are loading a UNIX kernel it may already be too late to try to adjust these settings. Therefore I am cc:'ing this to ASUS Tech Support as well.. I would love to see this added as an option to all Triton-II motherboard BIOS'es. It is clearly an unusual problem, you don't see it until you have LOTS of memory. :-( ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/546-7968 From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 8 08:52:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA21859 for current-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 08:52:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA21836; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 08:52:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA12255; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 09:42:43 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199611081642.JAA12255@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Compile error To: kdupuis@dcs.stu.rpi.edu (Kenneth J. Dupuis) Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 09:42:42 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Kenneth J. Dupuis" at Nov 7, 96 11:26:25 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I just grabbed the latest -current via FTP and compiled it with no > problems. Its been up and running on a heavily-used server for about 3 > hours now. The only thing I can notice is that it takes a long time to > close a TCP/IP port that sendmail was using. It says that the connection > is "ESTABLISHED" long after the email has been delivered. > > Due to this problem and a lot of "open" ports I grabbed -stable and tried > to compile it. About 3/4 of the way through it exits with this error: > > param.c - timezone value does not match > > That's the best I can remember it right now. Anyone heard of this and > know a way to fix it? Is this inbound or outbound sendmail connections? For inbound connections, if your clients are WINSOCK machines, this is a well known problem with Microsoft engineers being unable (or unwilling) to read IETF documents and distinguish connection close packets from abort packets. If it's outbound, it's because the remote side did not do a correct teardown after the in-band "QUIT" was sent and acknowledged (in which case: "is the SMTP server running on an MS OS?"). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 8 09:03:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA22359 for current-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 09:03:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from dcs.stu.rpi.edu (kdupuis@dcs.stu.rpi.edu [128.113.161.29]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA22353 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 09:03:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (kdupuis@localhost) by dcs.stu.rpi.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA00479; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 12:01:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 12:01:42 -0500 (EST) From: "Kenneth J. Dupuis" To: Terry Lambert cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Compile error In-Reply-To: <199611081642.JAA12255@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 8 Nov 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: > Is this inbound or outbound sendmail connections? Upon further investigation this morning it seems that all port connections close a little more slowly than under the 2.2-961014-SNAP kernel. All is stable, however, so we'll stick with this kernel for now. The ports do eventually close so its not really a problem. From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 8 09:17:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA23286 for current-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 09:17:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.95.76.54]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA23280; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 09:17:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) id JAA02016; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 09:18:14 -0800 (PST) From: "Steven G. Kargl" Message-Id: <199611081718.JAA02016@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/systat vmstat.c In-Reply-To: <199611081338.VAA27430@spinner.DIALix.COM> from Peter Wemm at "Nov 8, 96 09:38:43 pm" To: peter@spinner.DIALix.COM (Peter Wemm) Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 09:18:14 -0800 (PST) Cc: jkh@freefall.freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freefall.freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [cc: to freebsd-current] According to Peter Wemm: > "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > Log: > > Wow, make the vmstat display actually usable! This is a cosmetic > > fix, but low-impact and worth the comeasurate risk. I [jkh] can't even > > test it in -current since systat's vmstat display is completely broken > > there at the moment, printing out: "The alternate system clock has died!" > > Show this to Bruce.. According to him, this cannot happen. The > "alternate system clock" is the rtc (irq 8) and it has stopped sending the > 128Hz statistics and/or 1024Hz profiling clock. It's not just vmstat that > is affected, check 'ps' and 'top'.. you'll also find that anything cpu > intensive through time(1) gets all it's time credited to "system" rather > than part "user" and part "system". > I saw the same behaviour while profiling some code. My routines were running infinitely fast, and the system was taking all the time during execution. Not exactly the expected behaviour. See the thread "Is profiling broken" on the freebsd-current mailing list. Bruce suggested that I may have some hardware problem, but a "make world" and new kernel seems to fix the problem. -- Steve From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 8 09:31:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA24327 for current-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 09:31:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA24319 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 09:31:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.7.6/8.6.9) id EAA10517 for current@freebsd.org; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 04:27:10 +1100 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 04:27:10 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199611081727.EAA10517@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: vmstat Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The vmstat changes in 2.2 aren't in -current. They seem to be OK, but comparison of the output shows some bugs: 1. "pdwake" is too long. The "e" in it gets chopped off by an interrupt count. 2. The "VIRTUAL Tot All" count seems to be broken. It seems to never decrease. Bruce From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 8 12:24:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA06471 for current-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 12:24:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from hawk.pearson.udel.edu (hawk.pearson.udel.edu [128.175.64.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA06390 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 12:23:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from hawk.pearson.udel.edu (localhost.udel.edu [127.0.0.1]) by hawk.pearson.udel.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00647 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 15:23:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199611082023.PAA00647@hawk.pearson.udel.edu> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Buslogic Card? Organization: Broken Toys Unlimited Reply-To: alexandr@hawk.pearson.udel.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <641.847484593.1@hawk.pearson.udel.edu> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 15:23:13 -0500 From: Jerry Alexandratos Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I was wondering whether anyone out there is using a Buslogic Flaspoint LW SCSI controller. It's listed as a BT-950. Looking around Buslogic's web page, I couldn't find any 946's or 956's. 8( So, I'm just trying to make sure that this particular card will work with FreeBSD. Thanks in advance... --Jerry 8) Jerry Alexandratos % "Nothing inhabits my (8 8) darkstar@strauss.udel.edu % thoughts, and oblivion (8 8) darkstar@canary.pearson.udel.edu % drives my desires." (8 From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 8 12:49:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA07508 for current-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 12:49:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from critter.tfs.com ([140.145.230.177]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA07502; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 12:48:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from critter.tfs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.tfs.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id WAA05491; Wed, 6 Nov 1996 22:14:39 +0100 (MET) To: Mark Mayo cc: Julian Elischer , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: please test -currents kernel In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 06 Nov 1996 17:20:11 EST." Date: Wed, 06 Nov 1996 22:14:38 +0100 Message-ID: <5489.847314878@critter.tfs.com> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message , Mark M > >Huh? I thought if I wanted to help in the preparation for the 2.2 release, >that the RELENG_2_2 branch was exactly what I needed... On that note, I >CVSupped the RELENG_2_2 branch last night, and it seems quite solid so >far. My only problem had to do with xdm not starting up by default because >it wanted libgnumalloc.so.2.0, which I just ln -s'ed to >libfakegnumallow.so.2.0 and everything seems great so far! > >Are the changes you are talking about eventually going to make into the >RELENG_2_2 branch? I'm especially interested in the SCSI code, and the >ncrcontrol stuff seeing I have a 53c810 NCR controller.. We are considering the changes that went into -current after the RELENG_2_2 branch was made, and thus want input on -current, to decide if it is fit. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | phk@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD Core-team. http://www.freebsd.org/~phk | phk@login.dknet.dk Private mailbox. whois: [PHK] | phk@ref.tfs.com TRW Financial Systems, Inc. Future will arrive by its own means, progress not so. From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 8 19:41:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA03122 for current-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:41:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from watt.cae.uwm.edu (hench@watt.cae.uwm.edu [129.89.52.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA03113 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 19:41:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from hench@localhost) by watt.cae.uwm.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA24691 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:41:20 -0600 From: Mike Hench Message-Id: <199611090341.VAA24691@watt.cae.uwm.edu> Subject: 2.2 HARD lockup RFC b4 i try it again. To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 8 Nov 1996 21:41:20 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi. i built 2.2 (RELENG_2_2) from this morning 11/8 sup (CST). it did not work well :-) it locked up HARD on me 3X, 2x in quota check and once in fsck. disk light just sat there staring at me. (diff disks each time) it never booted sucsessfully with the new kernel. i have 3940U + 7 4 gig segate hawks. 6 in a ccd. ccd has quotas. (tyan tomcat I w/256meg in 32M simms if that means anything) last known working setup was from late august (this is a production box). and that was the configuration when i made world. it always locked up while doing something (fsck or quota) with the CCD but one time the light on the boot disk stayed on leading me to believe it is not strictly CCD related. I had heard about some scsi changes right (before?) the 2_2 tag, ill see if i can look those up and try it b4 those went in unless someone has a better idea. i can probably work on this 11/9 evening CST but there are too many users on sundays to fart around with it. (sorry i got to let the users get the box with all the disk, my test box has IDE :-( ) it may be just operator error on my part, but it was a clean build (rm -rf /usr/src; rm -rf /usr/obj; cvs co -r RELENG_2_2 -P src; make ...) any ideas would be appreciated. thank you very much. mike hench hench@cae.uwm.edu From owner-freebsd-current Fri Nov 8 20:22:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA04934 for current-outgoing; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 20:22:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA04924; Fri, 8 Nov 1996 20:22:00 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611090422.UAA04924@freefall.freebsd.org> To: Mike Hench cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.2 HARD lockup RFC b4 i try it again. In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 08 Nov 1996 21:41:20 CST." <199611090341.VAA24691@watt.cae.uwm.edu> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 1996 20:21:59 -0800 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk There were bugs in the aic7xxx driver that were fixed just after the tag went on the tree, but my pull-up request for those files has not been processed yet. You should be testing -current, not the 2.2 tree yet anyway, as Poul has been requesting. If you want, I can send you the diffs for the aic7xxx driver that would upgrade your 2.2 tree to what is now in -current. >thank you very much. >mike hench >hench@cae.uwm.edu -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 9 00:05:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA13777 for current-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 00:05:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx.serv.net (mx.serv.net [199.201.191.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA13772 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 00:05:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from MindBender.serv.net by mx.serv.net (8.7.5/SERV Revision: 2.30) id AAA23373; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 00:06:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.serv.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA02975; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 00:05:47 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611090805.AAA02975@MindBender.serv.net> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.serv.net: Host michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: alexandr@hawk.pearson.udel.edu cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Buslogic Card? In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 08 Nov 96 15:23:13 -0500. <199611082023.PAA00647@hawk.pearson.udel.edu> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 00:05:46 -0800 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I was wondering whether anyone out there is using a Buslogic Flaspoint >LW SCSI controller. It's listed as a BT-950. These are not supported. >Looking around Buslogic's web page, I couldn't find any 946's or 956's. >8( Are you sure? You're also aware that the BT948 and BT958 are just Ultra-SCSI versions of the BT946 and BT956. >So, I'm just trying to make sure that this particular card will work >with FreeBSD. It will not. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@MindBender.serv.net --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 9 02:27:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA18440 for current-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 02:27:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA18435 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 02:27:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.2/8.7.3) id UAA00239 for current@freebsd.org; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 20:57:18 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199611091027.UAA00239@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: syscons and mono VGA screens? To: current@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 20:57:17 +1030 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk *mumble* our gateway/server box took a dive on thursday, and I've only just mostly got it back up (it fell over a little while after I got home this afternoon, screen saver & network were going, but no disk, no login. Bad.) Anyway, I took the opportunity to upgrade from a 10/95 -STABLE which has served us well to -current, at least partly because I don't have any kernel sources that old 8) There's an annoying 'feature' now though; I have to leave the (mono VGA) monitor unplugged until after syscons has finished probing. Otherwise, it gets as far as the autoconf line for syscons : sc0 at 0x60-... and no further. The system still boots OK, and everything else works, but the screen is frozen. If the screen is not plugged in, it thinks it's a colour screen, and when I plug it back in, all is well. The quick answer of course is to cut off the mono detect pin, but IMHO it should be fixed in software 8) (There's also an annoying delay when adding the default route, despite my adding '-n' to the 'route add' line in netstart. The machine has two ethernets, and resolves via a local nameserver, so I can only guess that -n is not having the desired effect.) -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 9 03:22:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA20533 for current-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 03:22:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA20528 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 03:22:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id MAA13440; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 12:21:49 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id MAA02894; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 12:21:48 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.2/8.6.9) id LAA10906; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 11:55:26 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199611091055.LAA10906@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: syscons and mono VGA screens? To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 11:55:26 +0100 (MET) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199611091027.UAA00239@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from Michael Smith at "Nov 9, 96 08:57:17 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Michael Smith wrote: > There's an annoying 'feature' now though; I have to leave the (mono VGA) > monitor unplugged until after syscons has finished probing. Otherwise, > it gets as far as the autoconf line for syscons : > > sc0 at 0x60-... > > and no further. The system still boots OK, and everything else works, but > the screen is frozen. It's not frozen, but it writes to a piece of memory that is not displayed... I thought this has been fixed long since. Søren, any last-minute fix for it? (Though i'll be away from any 2.2 release work after tomorrow noon MET.) > (There's also an annoying delay when adding the default route, despite my > adding '-n' to the 'route add' line in netstart. The machine has two > ethernets, and resolves via a local nameserver, so I can only guess that > -n is not having the desired effect.) -n does only have an effect on reverse lookups to translate addresses into names when printing. You gotta explicit use numerical addresses in your case -- how else should the names translate into addresses otherwise? -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 9 03:34:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA21263 for current-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 03:34:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA21256 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 03:34:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.2/8.6.9) with ESMTP id DAA29108; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 03:34:16 -0800 (PST) To: Michael Smith cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: syscons and mono VGA screens? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 09 Nov 1996 20:57:17 +1030." <199611091027.UAA00239@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 03:34:16 -0800 Message-ID: <29101.847539256@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > There's an annoying 'feature' now though; I have to leave the (mono VGA) > monitor unplugged until after syscons has finished probing. Otherwise, > it gets as far as the autoconf line for syscons : > > sc0 at 0x60-... Heh. I see that too on thud (running -current), FWIW. Until now, however, I just thought it was just some weird serial console hack in Satoshi's kernel. :-) We have an MGA monitor hooked to a port switch, and thud's console is always the "dead" one now. Jordan From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 9 05:30:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA26701 for current-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 05:30:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA26693 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 05:30:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from baloon.mimi.com (sjx-ca34-11.ix.netcom.com [204.31.236.107]) by dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with ESMTP id FAA17455; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 05:29:24 -0800 Received: (from asami@localhost) by baloon.mimi.com (8.8.2/8.6.12) id FAA09800; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 05:29:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 05:29:21 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611091329.FAA09800@baloon.mimi.com> To: jkh@time.cdrom.com CC: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <29101.847539256@time.cdrom.com> (jkh@time.cdrom.com) Subject: Re: syscons and mono VGA screens? From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * Heh. I see that too on thud (running -current), FWIW. Until now, * however, I just thought it was just some weird serial console hack in * Satoshi's kernel. :-) We have an MGA monitor hooked to a port switch, Hey, I don't hack consoles! I only hack bank vaults, remember? Satoshi From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 9 05:44:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA29038 for current-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 05:44:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from watt.cae.uwm.edu (hench@watt.cae.uwm.edu [129.89.52.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA29025 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 05:44:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from hench@localhost) by watt.cae.uwm.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id HAA28613; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 07:44:18 -0600 From: Mike Hench Message-Id: <199611091344.HAA28613@watt.cae.uwm.edu> Subject: Re: 2.2 HARD lockup RFC b4 i try it again. To: gibbs@freefall.freebsd.org (Justin T. Gibbs) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 07:44:17 -0600 (CST) Cc: hench@cae.uwm.edu, freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199611090422.UAA04924@freefall.freebsd.org> from "Justin T. Gibbs" at Nov 8, 96 08:21:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > There were bugs in the aic7xxx driver that were fixed just after the > tag went on the tree, but my pull-up request for those files has not > been processed yet. You should be testing -current, not the 2.2 tree > yet anyway, as Poul has been requesting. If you want, I can send you > the diffs for the aic7xxx driver that would upgrade your 2.2 tree to > what is now in -current. > ahh, i get too much email. i had thouht the the changes in -current were MORE likely to be broken. I will build -current then, until someone says this stuff has made it into 2.2. I have the cvs tree. thank you for the info. > >thank you very much. > >mike hench > >hench@cae.uwm.edu > > -- > Justin T. Gibbs > =========================================== > FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations > =========================================== > From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 9 08:10:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA05846 for current-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 08:10:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from ravenock.cybercity.dk (disn35.cybercity.dk [194.16.57.35]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA05838 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 08:10:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sos@localhost) by ravenock.cybercity.dk (8.8.2/8.7.3) id RAA03165; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 17:04:28 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199611091604.RAA03165@ravenock.cybercity.dk> Subject: Re: syscons and mono VGA screens? To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 17:04:18 +0100 (MET) From: "Soren Schmidt" Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au In-Reply-To: <199611091055.LAA10906@uriah.heep.sax.de> from "J Wunsch" at Nov 9, 96 11:55:26 am From: sos@FreeBSD.org Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to J Wunsch who wrote: > > As Michael Smith wrote: > > > There's an annoying 'feature' now though; I have to leave the (mono VGA) > > monitor unplugged until after syscons has finished probing. Otherwise, > > it gets as far as the autoconf line for syscons : > > > > sc0 at 0x60-... > > > > and no further. The system still boots OK, and everything else works, but > > the screen is frozen. > > It's not frozen, but it writes to a piece of memory that is not > displayed... I thought this has been fixed long since. > > Søren, any last-minute fix for it? I'll look at it as soon as I get a few minutes... Has anybody tried uncommenting the lines around 2369 and see if that helps ? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 9 08:45:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA07963 for current-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 08:45:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from scotty.masternet.it (masternet.it [194.184.65.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA07952 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 08:45:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmarco (ts1port8d.masternet.it [194.184.65.30]) by scotty.masternet.it (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA12109 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 17:45:30 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <3.0b35.32.19961109154157.006a0f94@scotty.masternet.it> X-Sender: gmarco@scotty.masternet.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0b35 (32) Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 17:41:13 +0100 To: current@freebsd.org From: Gianmarco Giovannelli Subject: cc1 got fatal signal 6 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk After sync my tree with the ctms till 2404 from 2357 I am not able to compile the world: Here is the error : --- cut --- building profiled objc library ranlib libobjc_p.a ===> gnu/lib/libregex cc -O -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libregex -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -c /usr/src/gnu/lib/libregex/regex.c -o regex.o building standard gnuregex library ranlib libgnuregex.a cc -p -O -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libregex -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -c /usr/src/gnu/lib/libregex/regex.c -o regex.po cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 6 *** Error code 1 --- cut --- What does it means ? Have I to do some furter steps before trying to do make world again ? My box is a Cyrix 166+ 133mhz, 32mb ram, A2940uw with 2 HD wide quantum 2gb and some other periphericals on the scsi chain. here is my kernel config : --- cut --- machine "i386" cpu "I486_CPU" ident GMARCO maxusers 4 options INET options FFS options NFS options MSDOSFS options "CD9660" options PROCFS options "COMPAT_43" options SCSI_REPORT_GEOMETRY options SCSI_DELAY=1 options BOUNCE_BUFFERS options UCONSOLE options FAILSAFE options USERCONFIG options VISUAL_USERCONFIG options "COMPAT_LINUX" options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG config kernel root on sd0 controller isa0 controller pci0 controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 vector wdintr controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 vector wdintr disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 options ATAPI device wcd0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 controller scbus0 controller ahc0 device sd0 #Hd scsi device st0 #Tape scsi device cd0 #Cd rom Scsi controller snd0 device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 conflicts drq 1 vector sbintr device opl0 at isa? port 0x388 conflicts device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330 device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5 #Sb16 in 16 BIT DMA 5 device joy0 at isa? port "IO_GAME" device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr device psm0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" conflicts tty irq 12 vector psmintr device ed0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 vector edintr device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr device qcam0 at isa? port "IO_LPT1" conflicts flags 1 pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device log pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device gzip --- end --- Thanks very much for your attention.... Regards... +-------------------------------------+--------------------+ | Internet: gmarco@masternet.it | ,,, | | Internet: gmarco@nettuno.it | (o o) | | BIX : ggiovannelli@bix.com | ---oo0-(_)-0oo--- | | http://www2.masternet.it/ | Gianmarco | +-------------------------------------+--------------------+ From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 9 09:00:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA08959 for current-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 09:00:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA08944 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 09:00:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id RAA20475; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 17:59:33 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id RAA09140; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 17:59:33 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.2/8.6.9) id RAA02775; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 17:56:39 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199611091656.RAA02775@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: cc1 got fatal signal 6 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 17:56:39 +0100 (MET) Cc: gmarco@scotty.masternet.it (Gianmarco Giovannelli) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <3.0b35.32.19961109154157.006a0f94@scotty.masternet.it> from Gianmarco Giovannelli at "Nov 9, 96 05:41:13 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote: [text/enriched is unsupported, treating like TEXT/PLAIN] > cc -p -O -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libregex -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 > -c /usr/src/gnu/lib/libregex/regex.c -o regex.po > > cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 6 > > *** Error code 1 Is it accompanied by an ``out of swap'' message in /var/log/messages? -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 9 09:20:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA09871 for current-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 09:20:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from scotty.masternet.it (masternet.it [194.184.65.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA09863 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 09:20:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from gmarco (ts1port11d.masternet.it [194.184.65.33]) by scotty.masternet.it (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA12216; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 18:19:56 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <3.0b35.32.19961109181459.006a3ab8@scotty.masternet.it> X-Sender: gmarco@scotty.masternet.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0b35 (32) Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 18:15:39 +0100 To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) From: Gianmarco Giovannelli Subject: Re: cc1 got fatal signal 6 Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current users) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 17.56 09/11/96 +0100, J Wunsch wrote: >As Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote: > >[text/enriched is unsupported, treating like TEXT/PLAIN] > >> cc -p -O -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libregex -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 >> -c /usr/src/gnu/lib/libregex/regex.c -o regex.po >> >> cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 6 >> > >Is it accompanied by an ``out of swap'' message in /var/log/messages? No, in the var/log/messages there is only the same message of above ... I have 32mb ram, 64mb ram of swap and 50mb of /var (where is /tmp --> /var/tmp). I never went out of swap in the previous make world. Btw. It is the second time I try to make world and all the times it stops in the same place with the same error. Thanks again for your attention. Regards... +-------------------------------------+--------------------+ | Internet: gmarco@masternet.it | ,,, | | Internet: gmarco@nettuno.it | (o o) | | BIX : ggiovannelli@bix.com | ---oo0-(_)-0oo--- | | http://www2.masternet.it/ | Gianmarco | +-------------------------------------+--------------------+ From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 9 10:31:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA12966 for current-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 10:31:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.asiaconnect.com.my (ns.asiaconnect.com.my [202.190.60.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA12959 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 10:30:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from slacker-ti.asiaconnect.com.my (b1-s1-async3.asiaconnect.com.my [202.190.60.123]) by ns.asiaconnect.com.my (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA15998 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 18:26:54 GMT Message-Id: <199611091826.SAA15998@ns.asiaconnect.com.my> From: "Kevin Lew" To: Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 02:29:55 +0800 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 9 11:06:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA14513 for current-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 11:06:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA14496 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 11:06:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from budgie.zeta.org.au (dialup7e.syd1.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.254]) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.7.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id GAA15950 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 06:04:56 +1100 Received: (from andrew@localhost) by budgie.zeta.org.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA12184 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 19:38:54 +1100 (EST) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 19:38:54 +1100 (EST) From: Andrew Reilly Message-Id: <199611090838.TAA12184@budgie.zeta.org.au> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Where does the zic source live? Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Daylight savings time has just started in Sydney, and my system didn't respond too well. I thought that part of the problem might be that the clock chip was running wall-clock time (from a Windows config.) So I changed that to be GMT, and removed the /etc/wall_cmos_clock file, and started poking around in the TZ information, but was surprised to find only /usr/share/zoneinfo/... was all compiled. I havn't been able to hunt any more information down in the man pages or the FAQ or the handbook, so does anyone know? I don't believe that the compiled time info files are all that we have. When I worked in Brisbane on a Sony 4.3BSD system I remember finding a HUGE text file describing the entire history of daylight savings changes in Australia/Queensland. (It's changed every couple of years since I don't know when.) Anyway, thanks for the info, Andrew -- Andrew Reilly: reilly@zeta.org.au +61 2 9559 5029 (h) 36 Acton St. Senior DSP Design Engineer +61 2 9233 8655 (w) Hurlstone Park Lake DSP Pty Ltd Fax: +61 2 9233 8656 (w) NSW 2193 Australia GPO Box 4067, Sydney 2001 andrew@lake.com.au From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 9 15:20:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA27787 for current-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 15:20:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from pat.idt.unit.no (pat.idt.unit.no [129.241.103.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA27772; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 15:20:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from idt.unit.no (hyll.idt.unit.no [129.241.200.3]) by pat.idt.unit.no (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA04767; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 00:19:56 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199611092319.AAA04767@pat.idt.unit.no> To: 100120.3121@compuserve.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Follow on Atlantis board In-Reply-To: Your message of "09 Nov 96 15:08:34 EST" References: <961109200834_100120.3121_EHQ22-1@CompuServe.COM> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.06 on Emacs 19.31.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 00:19:55 +0100 From: Tor Egge Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [ cc-ed to freebsd-current due to boot blocks in -current still being oversensitive to bios quirks ] > Some more info: > > in start.S (called immediately after booteasy passes control?) we added a > > mov $0x0080, %edx > > so the code looks like: > > /* bootstrap passes us drive number in %dl */ > mov $0x0080, %edx > cmpb $0x80, %dl > data32 > jae hd > > However in boot() in boot.c drive is still 0x333b. > > After that we removed this line, and added it to the last lines of boot2.S: > > mov $0x0080, %edx > movzbl %dl, %edx /* discard head (%dh) and random high bits */ > pushl %edx > call EXT(boot) > > Still in boot() drive was 0x333b... I thought i went crazy. > > Next we added a printf(drive) immediately after the boot() int ret with the > above patch intact. We also had a printf before the dosdev = drive; line. Now > the first printf showed 0x0080, but the 2nd was 0x333b. > > It seemed boot() was screwing up the stack somehow?? After some printf's > the following line screws the stack: > > for(ret = 0; ret < N_BIOS_GEOM; ret ++) > bootinfo.bi_bios_geom[ret] = get_diskinfo(ret + 0x80); > > I think it's get_diskinfo. But get_diskinfo seems too difficult for me to > investigate. Maybe some FreeBSD boot guru has an idea? I'm not a FreeBSD boot guru, but I've had similar problems using NetBSD boot blocks, due to a combination of the bios not preserving the upper 16 bits in registers, and the boot blocks not saving/restoring the correct registers in the routines calling bios. When using gdb on /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/i386/boot/biosboot/boot in FreeBSD 3.0-current and disassembling the boot function, you'll see that early in the function, the boot device is placed in %edi. The compiler correctly (according to the calling conventions) assumes that %edi is not modified by any routine called. Both memsize() and get_diskinfo() are called before the content of %edi is saved in the dosdev variable. They have a good chance of stomping upon the contents of %edi on some bioses. FreeBSD is not alone with these problems: I have a 486 with a DC-2000VL IDE controller that runs NetBSD 1.2 behind me. Standard NetBSD 1.2 boot blocks just freezes, when loading a kernel from the IDE drive. Loading the same kernel from a floppy with the same boot blocks works. Saving/restoring the appropiate registers in the routines that calls bios and changing prot_to_real to use ljmp instead of lret caused all these problems to disappear. Cut from /usr/src/contrib/gcc/config/i386/i386.h: ---- /* 1 for registers not available across function calls. These must include the FIXED_REGISTERS and also any registers that can be used without being saved. The latter must include the registers where values are returned and the register where structure-value addresses are passed. Aside from that, you can include as many other registers as you like. */ #define CALL_USED_REGISTERS \ /*ax,dx,cx,bx,si,di,bp,sp,st,st1,st2,st3,st4,st5,st6,st7,arg*/ \ { 1, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1 } ---- This means that it's OK to clobber most registers except %ebx, %esi, %edi and %ebp. (%eax is a special case, it may contain a return value). Thus, I recommend a patch similar to this one (which is for FreeBSD 3.0-current): Index: asm.S =================================================================== RCS file: /export/akg1/cvs/src/sys/i386/boot/biosboot/asm.S,v retrieving revision 1.9 diff -u -r1.9 asm.S --- asm.S 1996/03/08 07:27:52 1.9 +++ asm.S 1996/11/09 21:28:48 @@ -221,7 +221,6 @@ push %es push %esi push %edi - push %ecx cld @@ -236,7 +235,6 @@ rep stosb - pop %ecx pop %edi pop %esi pop %es @@ -254,7 +252,6 @@ push %es push %esi push %edi - push %ecx cld @@ -269,7 +266,6 @@ rep movsb - pop %ecx pop %edi pop %esi pop %es Index: bios.S =================================================================== RCS file: /export/akg1/cvs/src/sys/i386/boot/biosboot/bios.S,v retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -r1.5 bios.S --- bios.S 1995/09/03 05:36:13 1.5 +++ bios.S 1996/11/09 21:33:29 @@ -75,8 +75,8 @@ mov %esp, %ebp push %ebx - push %ecx - push %edx + push %esi + push %edi push %es movb 0x10(%ebp), %dh @@ -110,8 +110,8 @@ movb %bh, %al /* return value in %ax */ pop %es - pop %edx - pop %ecx + pop %edi + pop %esi pop %ebx pop %ebp @@ -132,7 +132,8 @@ push %ebp mov %esp, %ebp push %ebx - push %ecx + push %esi + push %edi movb 0x8(%ebp), %cl @@ -149,7 +150,8 @@ data32 call EXT(real_to_prot) - pop %ecx + pop %edi + pop %esi pop %ebx pop %ebp ret @@ -167,6 +169,8 @@ push %ebp mov %esp, %ebp push %ebx /* save %ebx */ + push %esi + push %edi call EXT(prot_to_real) @@ -183,6 +187,8 @@ xor %eax, %eax movb %bl, %al + pop %edi + pop %esi pop %ebx pop %ebp ret @@ -203,6 +209,8 @@ push %ebp mov %esp, %ebp push %ebx + push %esi + push %edi call EXT(prot_to_real) /* enter real mode */ @@ -222,6 +230,8 @@ xor %eax, %eax movb %bl, %al + pop %edi + pop %esi pop %ebx pop %ebp ret @@ -238,8 +248,8 @@ mov %esp, %ebp push %es push %ebx - push %ecx - push %edx + push %esi + push %edi movb 0x8(%ebp), %dl /* diskinfo(drive #) */ call EXT(prot_to_real) /* enter real mode */ @@ -288,8 +298,8 @@ andb $0x3f, %cl /* mask of cylinder gunk */ movb %cl, %al /* max sector (and # sectors) */ - pop %edx - pop %ecx + pop %edi + pop %esi pop %ebx pop %es pop %ebp @@ -309,6 +319,8 @@ push %ebp mov %esp, %ebp push %ebx + push %esi + push %edi mov 8(%ebp), %ebx @@ -336,6 +348,8 @@ call EXT(real_to_prot) mov %ebx, %eax + pop %edi + pop %esi pop %ebx pop %ebp ret -------- - Tor Egge From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 9 17:29:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA02349 for current-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 17:29:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from hauki.clinet.fi (root@hauki.clinet.fi [194.100.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA02343 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 17:29:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from cantina.clinet.fi (root@cantina.clinet.fi [194.100.0.15]) by hauki.clinet.fi (8.7.6/8.6.4) with ESMTP id DAA20700 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 03:29:12 +0200 (EET) Received: (hsu@localhost) by cantina.clinet.fi (8.7.5/8.6.4) id DAA21132; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 03:29:12 +0200 (EET) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 03:29:12 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <199611100129.DAA21132@cantina.clinet.fi> From: Heikki Suonsivu To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: 2.2-RELENG still flakey Organization: Clinet Ltd, Espoo, Finland Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have been weekly been trying to upgrade from Aug 19 -current, with no success (filesystem corruption, lots of DUP inodes, frequent crashes). I tried 2.2-RELENG from yesterday, and it deadlocked within 30 minutes (probably some time after newsfeed got back up). I think I have already PR'd this, just let you know it still is bad. I'm not using tagged queueing (tried it, though) and not using MMAP with innd. Aug 19 kernel has not been of much trouble, I think I have had only one or two panics with it. -- Heikki Suonsivu, T{ysikuu 10 C 83/02210 Espoo/FINLAND, hsu@clinet.fi mobile +358-40-5519679 work +358-0-43542270 fax -4555276 From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 9 17:45:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA03009 for current-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 17:45:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from sequent.kiae.su (sequent.kiae.su [193.125.152.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA02991; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 17:45:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by sequent.kiae.su id AA04033 (5.65.kiae-2 ); Sun, 10 Nov 1996 05:34:52 +0400 Received: by sequent.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Sun, 10 Nov 96 05:34:51 +0400 Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.ru (8.8.2/8.8.2) id EAA00401; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 04:33:25 +0300 (MSK) Message-Id: <199611100133.EAA00401@nagual.ru> Subject: SCSI system becomes broken in -current? To: current@freebsd.org (FreeBSD-current), scsi@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 04:33:24 +0300 (MSK) From: "=?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?=" (Andrey A. Chernov) Organization: self X-Class: Fast X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It work for me without any error for very long time, but after todays rebuild I often got: sd0(ahc0:0:0): timed out in dataout phase, SCSISIGI == 0x0 Ordered Tag queued Ordered Tag sent sd0(ahc0:0:0): timed out in dataout phase, SCSISIGI == 0x0 sd0(ahc0:0:0): timed out in dataout phase, SCSISIGI == 0x0 ahc0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 4 SCBs aborted sd0(ahc0:0:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0 sd0(ahc0:0:0): Power on, reset, or bus device reset occurred field replaceable unit: 14 , retries:3 sd1(ahc0:1:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0 sd1(ahc0:1:0): Power on, reset, or bus device reset occurred , retries:4 Ordered Tag sent sd1(ahc0:1:0): NOT READY asc:4,1 sd1(ahc0:1:0): Logical unit is in process of becoming ready , retries:3 sd1(ahc0:1:0): NOT READY asc:4,1 sd1(ahc0:1:0): Logical unit is in process of becoming ready , retries:2 sd1(ahc0:1:0): NOT READY asc:4,1 sd1(ahc0:1:0): Logical unit is in process of becoming ready , retries:1 sd1(ahc0:1:0): NOT READY asc:4,1 sd1(ahc0:1:0): Logical unit is in process of becoming ready , FAILURE sd0(ahc0:0:0): timed out in dataout phase, SCSISIGI == 0x0 Ordered Tag queued Ordered Tag sent Ordered Tag sent sd0(ahc0:0:0): timed out in dataout phase, SCSISIGI == 0x0 sd0(ahc0:0:0): timed out in dataout phase, SCSISIGI == 0x0 ahc0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 4 SCBs aborted sd0(ahc0:0:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0 sd0(ahc0:0:0): Power on, reset, or bus device reset occurred field replaceable unit: 14 , retries:3 sd1(ahc0:1:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0 sd1(ahc0:1:0): Power on, reset, or bus device reset occurred , retries:4 etc.............................................................. I have ahc0: at 0x1c00-0x1cff irq 11 on eisa0 slot 1 ahc0: aic7770 >= Rev E, Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 4 SCBs ahc0: target 0 Tagged Queuing Device (ahc0:0:0): "CONNER CFP1060S 1.05GB 2135" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 1013MB (2074880 512 byte sectors) ahc0: target 1 Tagged Queuing Device (ahc0:1:0): "IBM DORS-32160 S84A" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1(ahc0:1:0): Direct-Access 2063MB (4226725 512 byte sectors) -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.ru/~ache/ From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 9 18:00:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA03770 for current-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 18:00:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from watt.cae.uwm.edu (hench@watt.cae.uwm.edu [129.89.52.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA03761 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 18:00:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from hench@localhost) by watt.cae.uwm.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA04624; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 19:59:57 -0600 From: Mike Hench Message-Id: <199611100159.TAA04624@watt.cae.uwm.edu> Subject: Re: 2.2 HARD lockup RFC b4 i try it again. To: gibbs@freefall.freebsd.org (Justin T. Gibbs) Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 19:59:56 -0600 (CST) Cc: hench@cae.uwm.edu, freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199611090422.UAA04924@freefall.freebsd.org> from "Justin T. Gibbs" at Nov 8, 96 08:21:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > There were bugs in the aic7xxx driver that were fixed just after the > tag went on the tree, but my pull-up request for those files has not > been processed yet. You should be testing -current, not the 2.2 tree > yet anyway, as Poul has been requesting. > Justin T. Gibbs > =========================================== > FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations > =========================================== > it seemed that jkh pulled that stuff into 2.2 this morning so i tried that again. same thing. i also tried a -current kernel (supped today) no problems with build. locks up everytime it starts quotacheck. and once during fsck and twice IMEDIATELY after the kernel loaded. this was on a reset initiated boot as opposed to a complete powerdown. im wondering if i have something else screwed, but the late august kernel works fine. everytime. i tried relaxing my ram timings (just for grins) to no avail. at this point i find it hard to believe that it is scsi (software) or aicxxxx related tho. probably some lovely scsi hardware crap. it's all internal and active terminated, but scsi does that sometimes just to get on your nerves. :-( thanks for your help tho. mike hench hench@cae.uwm.edu From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 9 18:15:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA04543 for current-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 18:15:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA04532; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 18:15:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611100215.SAA04532@freefall.freebsd.org> To: "=?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?=" (Andrey A. Chernov) cc: current@freebsd.org (FreeBSD-current), scsi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCSI system becomes broken in -current? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 10 Nov 1996 04:33:24 +0300." <199611100133.EAA00401@nagual.ru> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 18:15:43 -0800 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I have >ahc0: at 0x1c00-0x1cff irq 11 on eisa0 slot 1 >ahc0: aic7770 >= Rev E, Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 4 SCBs >ahc0: target 0 Tagged Queuing Device >(ahc0:0:0): "CONNER CFP1060S 1.05GB 2135" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 >sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 1013MB (2074880 512 byte sectors) Do you have the required firmware upgrade for this drive that makes tagged queuing work correctly with it? The driver is a bit faster then it was before and I don't know exactly what it was about this drive that makes it go out to lunch, but it wouldn't surprise me if getting transactions too quickly caused you problems. I do not know where you can get the firmware upgrade from. I tried www.conner.com, but Seagate has that now... >-- >Andrey A. Chernov > >http://www.nagual.ru/~ache/ -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 9 18:17:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA04694 for current-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 18:17:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA04688; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 18:17:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611100217.SAA04688@freefall.freebsd.org> To: Mike Hench cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.2 HARD lockup RFC b4 i try it again. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 09 Nov 1996 19:59:56 CST." <199611100159.TAA04624@watt.cae.uwm.edu> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 18:17:06 -0800 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is this a pci card? If so, can you try options "AHC_FORCE_PIO"? >it seemed that jkh pulled that stuff into 2.2 this morning so i tried that >again. same thing. i also tried a -current kernel (supped today) >no problems with build. locks up everytime it starts quotacheck. and once >during fsck and twice IMEDIATELY after the kernel loaded. this was on a >reset initiated boot as opposed to a complete powerdown. >im wondering if i have something else screwed, but the late august kernel >works fine. everytime. i tried relaxing my ram timings (just for grins) to >no avail. at this point i find it hard to believe that it is scsi >(software) or aicxxxx related tho. probably some lovely scsi hardware >crap. it's all internal and active terminated, but scsi does that >sometimes just to get on your nerves. :-( > >thanks for your help tho. >mike hench >hench@cae.uwm.edu -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 9 18:42:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA05687 for current-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 18:42:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from sumter.awod.com (awod.com [198.81.225.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA05666; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 18:42:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from tsunami..awod.com ([206.30.179.200]) by sumter.awod.com (8.7.6/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA29275; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 21:42:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961109214202.00d8cef8@awod.com> X-Sender: klam@awod.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 21:42:05 -0500 To: "Justin T. Gibbs" , "=?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?=" (Andrey A. Chernov) From: Ken Lam Subject: Re: SCSI system becomes broken in -current? Cc: current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current), scsi@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 06:15 PM 11/9/96 -0800, Justin T. Gibbs wrote: >>I have >>ahc0: at 0x1c00-0x1cff irq 11 on eisa0 slot 1 >>ahc0: aic7770 >= Rev E, Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 4 SCBs >>ahc0: target 0 Tagged Queuing Device >>(ahc0:0:0): "CONNER CFP1060S 1.05GB 2135" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 >>sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 1013MB (2074880 512 byte sectors) > >Do you have the required firmware upgrade for this drive that makes tagged >queuing work correctly with it? The driver is a bit faster then it was >before and I don't know exactly what it was about this drive that makes it >go out to lunch, but it wouldn't surprise me if getting transactions too >quickly caused you problems. I do not know where you can get the firmware >upgrade from. I tried www.conner.com, but Seagate has that now... Actually, Justin, these results look just like the errors which I got when you first integrated the SCSI changes into -current tree and I rebuilt for my neptune motherboard. Perhaps it is the problem with mem mapped io? I'd put OPTIONS AHC_FORCE_PIO into the configuration and rebuild. -Ken --- Ken Lam lam@awod.com Integrated Technical Systems Systems, Networks, and Internet Solutions -- Defining Technology Today "'Plug and Play' was only applicable to the original ATARI(tm)" From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 9 18:47:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA06068 for current-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 18:47:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA06061; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 18:47:32 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611100247.SAA06061@freefall.freebsd.org> To: Ken Lam cc: "=?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?=" (Andrey A. Chernov) , current@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD-current), scsi@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: SCSI system becomes broken in -current? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 09 Nov 1996 21:42:05 EST." <3.0.32.19961109214202.00d8cef8@awod.com> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 18:47:32 -0800 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Actually, Justin, these results look just like the errors which I got when >you first integrated the SCSI changes into -current tree and I rebuilt for >my neptune motherboard. Perhaps it is the problem with mem mapped io? > >I'd put OPTIONS AHC_FORCE_PIO into the configuration and rebuild. The 284x can only do PIO since it is a VL controller so the AHC_FORCE_PIO option doesn't affect it. >-Ken >--- >Ken Lam lam@awod.com >Integrated Technical Systems >Systems, Networks, and Internet Solutions -- Defining Technology Today > "'Plug and Play' was only applicable to the original ATARI(tm)" -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 9 18:57:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA06560 for current-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 18:57:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from sovcom.kiae.su (sovcom.kiae.su [193.125.152.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA06540; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 18:57:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by sovcom.kiae.su id AA23829 (5.65.kiae-1 ); Sun, 10 Nov 1996 05:52:36 +0300 Received: by sovcom.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Sun, 10 Nov 96 05:52:36 +0300 Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.ru (8.8.2/8.8.2) id FAA00516; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 05:50:22 +0300 (MSK) Message-Id: <199611100250.FAA00516@nagual.ru> Subject: Re: SCSI system becomes broken in -current? In-Reply-To: <199611100215.SAA04532@freefall.freebsd.org> from "Justin T. Gibbs" at "Nov 9, 96 06:15:43 pm" To: gibbs@freefall.freebsd.org (Justin T. Gibbs) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 05:50:22 +0300 (MSK) Cc: current@freebsd.org, scsi@freebsd.org From: "=?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?=" (Andrey A. Chernov) Organization: self X-Class: Fast X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >I have > >ahc0: at 0x1c00-0x1cff irq 11 on eisa0 slot 1 > >ahc0: aic7770 >= Rev E, Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 4 SCBs > >ahc0: target 0 Tagged Queuing Device > >(ahc0:0:0): "CONNER CFP1060S 1.05GB 2135" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 > >sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 1013MB (2074880 512 byte sectors) > > Do you have the required firmware upgrade for this drive that makes tagged > queuing work correctly with it? The driver is a bit faster then it was > before and I don't know exactly what it was about this drive that makes it > go out to lunch, but it wouldn't surprise me if getting transactions too > quickly caused you problems. I do not know where you can get the firmware > upgrade from. I tried www.conner.com, but Seagate has that now... Tagged queuing always work with it before recent days. I don't know about any firmware upgrade needed for this drive. BTW, it is almost impossible to get firmware upgrade in Russia or snail mail will costs so much money as compared to new device price. How do you know that firmware upgrade needed for this drive? Could you please resend me your sources? Needless to say that it works OK under Win95. I mention this fact because we need to put some warning about firmware upgrade needed for this drive, or we'll have many users complaints, this model is very popular at least in Russia. Could you please add device flags to turn tagged queuing on per-drive basis instead on for whole controller? My second drive is new IBM disk which works well with tagged queueing and I not want to turn it off for this drive too. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.ru/~ache/ From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 9 19:04:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA07072 for current-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 19:04:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA07061; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 19:04:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199611100304.TAA07061@freefall.freebsd.org> To: "=?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?=" (Andrey A. Chernov) cc: current@freebsd.org, scsi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCSI system becomes broken in -current? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 10 Nov 1996 05:50:22 +0300." <199611100250.FAA00516@nagual.ru> Date: Sat, 09 Nov 1996 19:04:22 -0800 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Tagged queuing always work with it before recent days. I don't know about >any firmware upgrade needed for this drive. BTW, it is almost impossible >to get firmware upgrade in Russia or snail mail will costs so much money as >compared to new device price. >How do you know that firmware upgrade needed for this drive? >Could you please resend me your sources? Drive firmware upgrades are usually ftp-able and are downloaded to the drive on the user's system. As for my sources, Gary Palmer mentioned some time ago that his 1060 would not work with tagged queueing and there is an entry in one of the Linux hardware FAQs about this drive. >Needless to say that it works OK under Win95. They probably have a quirk entry for it. Either that, or there is a new bug in the driver. The changes I made shouldn't have effected tagged queueing, so the bug should be reproducible with tagged queueing disabled. >I mention this fact because we need to put some warning about >firmware upgrade needed for this drive, or we'll have many users >complaints, this model is very popular at least in Russia. Sure, sure. >Could you please add device flags to turn tagged queuing on per-drive basis >instead on for whole controller? My second drive is new IBM disk which >works well with tagged queueing and I not want to turn it off for this drive >too. Don't you read your commit mail? I added this feature to the new SCSI branch code last weekend. >-- >Andrey A. Chernov > >http://www.nagual.ru/~ache/ -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 9 20:32:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA12081 for current-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 20:32:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from sovcom.kiae.su (sovcom.kiae.su [193.125.152.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA12059; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 20:32:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by sovcom.kiae.su id AA15873 (5.65.kiae-1 ); Sun, 10 Nov 1996 07:17:49 +0300 Received: by sovcom.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Sun, 10 Nov 96 07:17:49 +0300 Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.ru (8.8.2/8.8.2) id HAA00208; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 07:16:41 +0300 (MSK) Message-Id: <199611100416.HAA00208@nagual.ru> Subject: Re: SCSI system becomes broken in -current? In-Reply-To: <199611100304.TAA07061@freefall.freebsd.org> from "Justin T. Gibbs" at "Nov 9, 96 07:04:22 pm" To: gibbs@freefall.freebsd.org (Justin T. Gibbs) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 07:16:40 +0300 (MSK) Cc: current@freebsd.org, scsi@freebsd.org From: "=?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?=" (Andrey A. Chernov) Organization: self X-Class: Fast X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >Tagged queuing always work with it before recent days. I don't know about > >any firmware upgrade needed for this drive. BTW, it is almost impossible > >to get firmware upgrade in Russia or snail mail will costs so much money as > >compared to new device price. > >How do you know that firmware upgrade needed for this drive? > >Could you please resend me your sources? > > Drive firmware upgrades are usually ftp-able and are downloaded to the > drive on the user's system. As for my sources, Gary Palmer mentioned some > time ago that his 1060 would not work with tagged queueing and there is an > entry in one of the Linux hardware FAQs about this drive. What I find in Linux FAQ: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Some Conner CFP1060S drives may have problems with Linux and ext2fs. The symptoms are inode errors during e2fsck and corrupt file systems. Conner has released a firmware upgrade to fix this problem, contact Conner at 1-800-4CONNER (US) or +44-1294-315333 (Europe). Have the microcode version (found on the drive label, 9WA1.6x) handy when you call. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have 9WA1.68 label, so it seems my drive is affected. BTW, I can't call any of this phones, International calls costs too much here. If you got this upgrade somehow, please don't forget me... > They probably have a quirk entry for it. Either that, or there is a new > bug in the driver. The changes I made shouldn't have effected tagged > queueing, so the bug should be reproducible with tagged queueing disabled. I turn tagged queue off about two hours ago and extensively test my drives under hard load. And still not have this bug, so it seems it _is_ tagged queue related. > >Could you please add device flags to turn tagged queuing on per-drive basis > >instead on for whole controller? My second drive is new IBM disk which > >works well with tagged queueing and I not want to turn it off for this drive > >too. > > Don't you read your commit mail? I added this feature to the new SCSI > branch code last weekend. Sorry, I not pay attention on SCSI branch, I track -current only. My home SCSI drives is valuable enough for me to run experimental code on them. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.ru/~ache/ From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 9 23:03:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA19269 for current-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 23:03:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA19261; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 23:03:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <19402(3)>; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 23:03:20 PST Received: from localhost by crevenia.parc.xerox.com with SMTP id <177557>; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 23:03:10 -0800 To: "Justin T. Gibbs" cc: "=?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?=" (Andrey A. Chernov) , current@freebsd.org (FreeBSD-current), scsi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCSI system becomes broken in -current? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 09 Nov 96 18:15:43 PST." <199611100215.SAA04532@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 23:03:01 PST From: Bill Fenner Message-Id: <96Nov9.230310pst.177557@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199611100215.SAA04532@freefall.freebsd.org> you write: >I tried www.conner.com, but Seagate has that now... Seagate bought Conner earlier this year. They have all the conner-related stuff mixed in on their web and ftp site. (e.g. look through the drive model numbers and you will find the CFP1080S, etc.) Bill From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 9 23:59:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA22168 for current-outgoing; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 23:59:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cdsnet.net (mail.cdsnet.net [204.118.244.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA22162 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 23:59:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cdsnet.net (mail.cdsnet.net [204.118.244.5]) by mail.cdsnet.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA19359 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 1996 23:59:06 -0800 Date: Sat, 9 Nov 1996 23:59:06 -0800 (PST) From: Jaye Mathisen To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Some fundamental datatype change? Excessive unsigned vs signed compare warnings on kernel builds. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I haven't actually watched a full kernel build in a while, just copying the result to /. However, I've been messing with Justin's new AHC code, and just happened to watch a compile of a -current downloaded around 11/7, and there's lots of warnings about compares of unsigned vs. signed. Normally these don't worry me, but there were numerous ones in the FS stuff, a few in the vm section, and oodles in the NFS stuff. Just seems unhealthy.