From owner-freebsd-emulation Mon Oct 28 13:35:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-emulation Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA04953 for emulation-outgoing; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:35:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.crl.com (mail.crl.com [165.113.1.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA04947 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 13:35:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from apolo.biblos.unal.edu.co ([168.176.37.75]) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA19497 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 28 Oct 1996 14:36:52 -0700 Received: (from pgiffuni@localhost) by apolo.biblos.unal.edu.co (8.8.0/8.8.0) id QAA06032; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:33:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:33:56 -0500 (EST) From: Pedro Giffuni To: emulation@FreeBSD.org Subject: NetBSD emulation. In-Reply-To: <199610230422.NAA23812@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-emulation@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Howdy, I read on an OpenBSD list, NetBSD runs some DOS software, does anyone know about it? (Who wrote it, can it be useful in FreeBSD?) Does FreeBSD run NetBSD software? Will you be working more on the SCO emulation now that it is freely available? There are still programs that dont run, specially Motif stuff. best regards, Pedro. pgiffuni@FPS.biblos.unal.edu.co From owner-freebsd-emulation Mon Oct 28 16:28:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-emulation Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA20322 for emulation-outgoing; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:28:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA20305 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:28:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA22129; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 17:28:09 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 17:28:09 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199610290028.RAA22129@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Pedro Giffuni Cc: emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NetBSD emulation. In-Reply-To: References: <199610230422.NAA23812@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Sender: owner-emulation@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Will you be working more on the SCO emulation now that it is freely > available? There are still programs that dont run, specially Motif stuff. I run lots of Motif stuff on my freeBSD box. It requires that the Motif applications be linked static, or that you have the Motif shlib libraries available. Nate From owner-freebsd-emulation Mon Oct 28 16:50:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-emulation Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA21843 for emulation-outgoing; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:50:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from homero.admon.uson.mx ([148.225.38.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA21830 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:50:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by homero.admon.uson.mx (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA00227; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 06:43:19 GMT Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 06:43:19 GMT Message-Id: <199610280643.GAA00227@homero.admon.uson.mx> To: freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook19.html X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2.5FM X-Personal_name: Homero Borgo Valdez From: hborgo@soporte.uson.mx Subject: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/ Cc: hborgo@chato.uson.mx Sender: owner-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk if you have any information in spanish about the handbook please sendme i try learn, you will have many places in this city.... ok thanks any way. (i hope my inglish will be understand) ;(( From owner-freebsd-emulation Mon Oct 28 17:03:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-emulation Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA24402 for emulation-outgoing; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 17:03:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA24318 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 17:03:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA08278; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:32:00 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199610290102.LAA08278@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: NetBSD emulation. To: pgiffuni@apolo.biblos.unal.edu.co (Pedro Giffuni) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:31:59 +1030 (CST) Cc: emulation@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Pedro Giffuni" at Oct 28, 96 04:33:56 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-emulation@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Pedro Giffuni stands accused of saying: > > I read on an OpenBSD list, NetBSD runs some DOS software, does anyone know > about it? (Who wrote it, can it be useful in FreeBSD?) NetBSD has a couple of DOS emulators; the Linux 'dosemu' and the BSDi 'DOScmd'. Sean Fagan and I have been working on DOScmd for FreeBSD, but Sean has been too busy to get the kernel bits working. Aside from this, it works quite well. > Does FreeBSD run NetBSD software? Some. The missing component here is the vm86 support. > Will you be working more on the SCO emulation now that it is freely > available? There are still programs that dont run, specially Motif stuff. Not me; too much on my plate as it is 8( > Pedro. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-emulation Mon Oct 28 23:41:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-emulation Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA03569 for emulation-outgoing; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 23:41:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from sybil.cs.flinders.edu.au (root@sybil.cs.flinders.edu.au [129.96.43.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA03563 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 1996 23:41:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from sybil (LOCALHOST) by sybil.cs.flinders.edu.au with SMTP id AA09197 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 29 Oct 1996 18:10:53 +1030 Message-Id: <3275B504.41C67EA6@cs.flinders.edu.au> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 18:10:52 +1030 From: "Paul M. Gardner-Stephen" Organization: Performance Peripherals Australasia X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.3 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: emulation@freebsd.org Subject: count me in! X-Url: http://www.mud.com.tw:8080/www.freebsd.org/FAQ/freebsd-faq80.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-emulation@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am willing to put my efforts toward porting rundos to FreeBSD. -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Paul Gardner-Stephen USENET: gardners@ist.flinders.edu.au | | BBS: Fishbowl +61 8 2771361 v.42, 14k4 | | 64NET Author Voice: +61 8 2777479 +9:30 GMT | | C64 Coder Snail: 1 Hurst St,Morphettville SA 5043 | | Highlander/FairLight Australia. | | IRC-Nick: Highlandr | | 3:633/272.2 Html: http://pitel_lnx.ibk.fnt.hvu.nl/~highland | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Compiler error: Windoze=efficiency (Incompatible assignment of 'efficiency' to type MicroSoft.Product) From owner-freebsd-emulation Tue Oct 29 08:56:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-emulation Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA08181 for emulation-outgoing; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 08:56:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from apolo.biblos.unal.edu.co ([168.176.37.75]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA08172 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 08:56:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from pgiffuni@localhost) by apolo.biblos.unal.edu.co (8.8.0/8.8.0) id LAA07012; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:57:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:57:31 -0500 (EST) From: Pedro Giffuni To: Michael Smith cc: emulation@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: NetBSD emulation. In-Reply-To: <199610290102.LAA08278@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-emulation@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thanks to evryone that replied, just wanted a "reality check" On Tue, 29 Oct 1996, Michael Smith wrote: > > NetBSD has a couple of DOS emulators; the Linux 'dosemu' and the BSDi > 'DOScmd'. Sean Fagan and I have been working on DOScmd for FreeBSD, but > Sean has been too busy to get the kernel bits working. Aside from this, > it works quite well. > Let me guess: their ability to run dosemu has some relation with their Linux emulation? > > Does FreeBSD run NetBSD software? > > Some. The missing component here is the vm86 support. > Now I understand...the old Mach stuff. I was thinking the other day..shouldn't Lites be considered another port? (under ports/kernels !?? 8) ) after all, it requires a *BSD to run. Pedro. > > -- > ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ > ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ > ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ > ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ > ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ > From owner-freebsd-emulation Tue Oct 29 11:40:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-emulation Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA18622 for emulation-outgoing; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:40:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from apolo.biblos.unal.edu.co ([168.176.37.75]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA18598 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:40:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from unalslip.usc.unal.edu.co ([168.176.3.33]) by apolo.biblos.unal.edu.co (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id OAA07218 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 14:41:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3276836A.4433@fps.biblos.unal.edu.co> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 14:21:30 -0800 From: "Pedro Giffuni S." Reply-To: pgiffuni@fps.biblos.unal.edu.co Organization: Universidad Nacional de Colombia X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: emulation@freebsd.org Subject: [ Re: NetBSD emulation.] Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-emulation@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <32768303.1736@fps.biblos.unal.edu.co> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 14:19:47 -0800 From: "Pedro Giffuni S." Reply-To: pgiffuni@fps.biblos.unal.edu.co Organization: Universidad Nacional de Colombia X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nate Williams Subject: Re: NetBSD emulation. References: <199610230422.NAA23812@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> <199610290028.RAA22129@rocky.mt.sri.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I am thinking of writting a Web page to report which programs donīt run under the stable emulation packages, and what programs run under the unstable releases: much like the wine project does. Stable would be Linux and SCO, unstable could be DOS... If there is good participation, I could make an specific Wine for FreeBSD page. I would keep it for some months and it could be moved to freebsd.org or a mirror site, when I lose my student account. Is it a good idea? (By "good idea" I mean would it be useful for developers ?) Pedro. Nate Williams wrote: > > I run lots of Motif stuff on my freeBSD box. It requires that the Motif > applications be linked static, or that you have the Motif shlib > libraries available. > > Nate From owner-freebsd-emulation Tue Oct 29 17:03:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-emulation Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA15951 for emulation-outgoing; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 17:03:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA15942 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 17:03:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA17513; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:31:29 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199610300101.LAA17513@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: NetBSD emulation. To: pgiffuni@apolo.biblos.unal.edu.co (Pedro Giffuni) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:31:28 +1030 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, emulation@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Pedro Giffuni" at Oct 29, 96 11:57:31 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-emulation@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Pedro Giffuni stands accused of saying: > > > > NetBSD has a couple of DOS emulators; the Linux 'dosemu' and the BSDi > > 'DOScmd'. Sean Fagan and I have been working on DOScmd for FreeBSD, but > > Sean has been too busy to get the kernel bits working. Aside from this, > > it works quite well. > > > Let me guess: their ability to run dosemu has some relation with their > Linux emulation? None whatsoever. It has to do with John Kohl having lots of free time 8 ) > > > Does FreeBSD run NetBSD software? > > > > Some. The missing component here is the vm86 support. > > > Now I understand...the old Mach stuff. No, the Mach vm86 stuff is different again. (Yes, I have the mdos sources; both DOSCmd and dosemu borrow liberally from it.) > Pedro. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-emulation Thu Oct 31 21:53:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-emulation Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA20564 for emulation-outgoing; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 21:53:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA20557 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 1996 21:53:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from msmith@localhost by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA03882; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 16:23:05 +1030 From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199611010553.QAA03882@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: New PC-Emu (fwd) To: luigi@iet.unipi.it Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 16:23:04 +1030 (CST) Cc: emulation@freebsd.org, babkin@hq.icb.chel.su MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-emulation@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk msmith stands accused of saying: >From msmith Fri Nov 1 16:21:57 1996 Subject: New PC-Emu To: ports@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 16:21:57 +1030 (CST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1652 As usual with anything you undertake that you plan to get done quickly, this has mushroomed 8) After sitting down and looking at the huge pile of patches that we apply to PC-Emu, plus Luigi and Serge's extras, etc. it became clear that what we had on our hands was the makings of a fairly substantial upgrade, and that it would be a Real Pain in the Butt to maintain this many slowly-overlapping sets of changes. So anyway, what it boils down to is that David Hedley is quite happy for me to roll a new PC-Emu release and take over looking after it. I can't promise to do any serious development on it, although I can see some places where it would win greatly from the DOScmd code, but I'll undertake to accept patches and coordinate releases. Blah blah blah. I have something that vaguely approximates a cut at this here (very ragged still though 8( ), and what I'm looking for is a small set of testers (perferably ones that are using PC-Emu already) to check that I've correctly merged things and that the result is mildly cohesive. If/when this proves the case, I'll release the result in comp.emulators.misc and make a 'real' port out of it. If you're interested, have a look at ftp://gsoft.com.au/pub/pcemu1.9pre.tar.gz and let me know how you go. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-emulation Fri Nov 1 12:24:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-emulation Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA28766 for emulation-outgoing; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 12:24:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from cactus.fi.uba.ar (cactus.fi.uba.ar [157.92.49.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA28153 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 12:21:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msagre@localhost) by cactus.fi.uba.ar (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA16219; Fri, 1 Nov 1996 17:19:55 -0300 Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 17:19:54 -0300 (ARST) From: Miguel Angel Sagreras To: emulation@freebsd.org Subject: COFF and IBCS2 ... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-emulation@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anybody knows where I can get ELF, COFF and IBCS2 specificaction ? Miguel A. Sagreras Facultad de ingenieria Universidad de Buenos Aires e-mail : msagre@cactus.fi.uba.ar