From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Feb 25 01:17:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA20938 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 01:17:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA20933 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 01:17:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id BAA07189; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 01:23:05 -0800 Message-Id: <199602250923.BAA07189@MediaCity.com> Subject: Re: QCAM: Connectix : What is it? To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 01:23:05 -0800 (PST) From: "Brian Litzinger" Cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, multimedia@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <21985.825159149@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Feb 24, 96 02:52:29 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > > I recently got into a disagreement about QCAM vs. these little > > camera's we have been using around the office. > > > > These "little Camera's" are: > > Who makes these? Is it a Japanese firm with a 3 or 4 character name > (this is from memory here, my cam's not in front of me)? If so, > I have the same one and can say similarly good things about it. > Jordan I don't know, there are no distinguishing marks on the camera. I shall endeavour to determine where they came from. brian@mediacity.com From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Feb 25 15:03:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA26373 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 15:03:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from trapdoor.dstc.edu.au (root@trapdoor.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.12]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA26364 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 15:03:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from azure.dstc.edu.au (azure.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.27]) by trapdoor.dstc.edu.au (8.6.9/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA28233; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 09:03:01 +1000 Received: (from leonard@localhost) by azure.dstc.edu.au (8.6.10/8.6.12) id JAA25713; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 09:03:00 +1000 From: David Leonard Message-Id: <199602252303.JAA25713@azure.dstc.edu.au> Subject: ComputerEyes PCI/1024 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 09:03:00 +1000 (EST) Cc: leonard@dstc.edu.au (David Leonard) Reply-To: leonard@dstc.edu.au X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, Is anyone else doing anything with computereye's gear? I'm embarking on a uni/work project to write a device driver for some video board that isn't already supported. I'm now seriously looking at the Computereyes' PCI/1024 board. Eventually, I hope to contribute something to the FreeBSD jihad. I also hope to extend vic to use this board for a small videoconferencing demonstration at the end of the project. The proposed use for this board is for a video wall, hence the need for a hi-res capture board. Is anyone else doing anything with computereye's gear? I've emailed them a couple of times and they sound quite reasonable, except that I'm going to have to wait a while before they can get specs to me. Already I've played around with device driver LKMs and they look pretty funky (/dev/dave was fun :) Any words of wisdom for me? d -- David Leonard Project Officer, DSTC The University of Queensland david.leonard@dstc.edu.au http://www.dstc.edu.au/WP/staff/david-leonard.html From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Feb 25 16:03:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA02751 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 16:03:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from crh.cl.msu.edu (crh.cl.msu.edu [35.8.1.24]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA02744 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 16:03:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from henrich@localhost) by crh.cl.msu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA03208 for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 19:03:33 -0500 From: Charles Henrich Message-Id: <199602260003.TAA03208@crh.cl.msu.edu> Subject: .wav player? To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 19:03:33 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hey Amancio, any chance of getting you to put your .wav player somewhere? -Crh Charles Henrich Michigan State University henrich@msu.edu http://pilot.msu.edu/~henrich From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Feb 25 16:29:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA04109 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 16:29:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from moonpie.w8hd.org (moonpie.w8hd.org [198.252.159.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA04088 for ; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 16:28:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kimc@localhost) by moonpie.w8hd.org (8.7.4/8.6.12) id TAA00381; Sun, 25 Feb 1996 19:28:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 19:28:38 -0500 (EST) From: Kim Culhan To: multimedia@rah.star-gate.com cc: multimedia@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: test pic on freefall Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I just put a test pic up in incoming on freefall: kimc_and_v8.jpg Panasonic ag-450 camera, meteor and amancio's tv. kim From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Feb 26 00:15:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA03620 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 00:15:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA03615 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 00:15:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id AAA23929 for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 00:21:37 -0800 Message-Id: <199602260821.AAA23929@MediaCity.com> Subject: vat: To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 00:21:37 -0800 (PST) From: "Brian Litzinger" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I compiled m-src.020896.tar.gz on a 2.2-current system, and everything works fine except vat. # ./vat localhost/2020 vat: null proc called: unknown option "-activeforeground" while executing "$w cget $option" Where did I go wrong? Thanks for your help, -- Brian Litzinger Powered by FreeBSD http[s]://www.mpress.com From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Feb 26 06:21:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA21055 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 06:21:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from miller.cs.uwm.edu (miller.cs.uwm.edu [129.89.9.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA21049 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 06:20:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from james@localhost) by miller.cs.uwm.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA13432; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 08:20:43 -0600 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 08:20:43 -0600 From: Jim Lowe Message-Id: <199602261420.IAA13432@miller.cs.uwm.edu> To: brian@easy1.mediacity.com, freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vat: Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > From: "Brian Litzinger" > > I compiled m-src.020896.tar.gz on a 2.2-current system, and everything > works fine except vat. > > # ./vat localhost/2020 > vat: null proc called: > unknown option "-activeforeground" > while executing > "$w cget $option" > > Where did I go wrong? I use the stuff in m-src with -current and the -current sound stuff. I havn't upgraded my sound stuff to work with the new full duplex sound code at this time. I think this means that if you are running -current and the new sound stuff, you need to add the proper sound driver to vat. If you are running -current with the -current sound stuff you need to run vmix and use vat with the -U /tmp/vmixsock option. Sometime soon we should get all this sound stuff straightened out... -Jim From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Feb 26 07:29:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA24970 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 07:29:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from plains.nodak.edu (tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu [134.129.111.64]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA24963 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 07:29:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by plains.nodak.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id JAA13002; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 09:28:44 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 09:28:44 -0600 (CST) From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <199602261528.JAA13002@plains.nodak.edu> To: leonard@dstc.edu.au, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ComputerEyes PCI/1024 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Digitial Vision wanted me to write a driver for the Computer Eyes/1024 since I wrote one for their much older 8 bit ISA Computer Eyes/RT. I decided to pass on the driver because the card is too expensive (a Meteor clone is much cheaper) the CE/1024 uses a ISA bus rather than the cheaper PCI bus meteor clone, but most convincing was the fact the Computer Eyes/1024 like the older RT provides only RGB 24 capture mode. this means you will have to convert the RGB 24 to YUV in software. I found that the software RGB 24 -> YUV significantly reduces the frame rate. In the CE/RT driver, I made the big mistake of doing the RGB -> YUV using floating point, a much better way would be converting RGB 24 to RGB 8 with shift and then doing a table lookup to convert RGB 8 to YUV like nv does it for X capture mode. Even using this method the frame rate will be lower than the cheaper metoer clone. -mark. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Feb 26 08:30:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA28684 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 08:30:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from silver.sms.fi (root@silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA28676 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 08:30:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.6.12/8.6.9) id SAA03114; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 18:27:56 +0200 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 18:27:56 +0200 Message-Id: <199602261627.SAA03114@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: Jim Lowe Cc: brian@easy1.mediacity.com, freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vat: In-Reply-To: <199602261420.IAA13432@miller.cs.uwm.edu> References: <199602261420.IAA13432@miller.cs.uwm.edu> Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Jim Lowe writes: > > I use the stuff in m-src with -current and the -current sound stuff. I > havn't upgraded my sound stuff to work with the new full duplex sound > code at this time. > > I think this means that if you are running -current and the new sound > stuff, you need to add the proper sound driver to vat. If you are > running -current with the -current sound stuff you need to run vmix > and use vat with the -U /tmp/vmixsock option. > > Sometime soon we should get all this sound stuff straightened out... > Does this mean that the vmix application will go away in near future? Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Feb 26 10:19:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA05602 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 10:19:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from miller.cs.uwm.edu (miller.cs.uwm.edu [129.89.9.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA05596 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 10:19:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from james@localhost) by miller.cs.uwm.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA27879; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 12:18:35 -0600 Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 12:18:35 -0600 From: Jim Lowe Message-Id: <199602261818.MAA27879@miller.cs.uwm.edu> To: pete@sms.fi Subject: Re: vat: Cc: brian@easy1.mediacity.com, freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Does this mean that the vmix application will go away in near future? > > Pete > I doubt it. It could go away with something like a gus pnp card since that card will actually run at 8khz. For other cards like sb, pas, gus, gus-max, vmix is still need to do rate adjustment. Actually, if I had the time I would reencarnate the vat_audio device driver -- probably call it bsd_audio and have that do the BSD audio interface to Voxware interface conversion. It could also do rate adjustment by pre-calibrating via a user level program. Then one could change the current vmix to just play with VOXware or BSD style mixing devices... We really need a sound device that will work at specified frequencies and a standard interface. -Jim From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Feb 26 17:13:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA03888 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 17:13:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from moonpie.w8hd.org (moonpie.w8hd.org [198.252.159.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA03880 for ; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 17:13:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kimc@localhost) by moonpie.w8hd.org (8.7.4/8.6.12) id UAA03232; Mon, 26 Feb 1996 20:13:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 20:13:01 -0500 (EST) From: Kim Culhan To: Jim Lowe cc: brian@easy1.mediacity.com, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: vat: In-Reply-To: <199602261420.IAA13432@miller.cs.uwm.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 26 Feb 1996, Jim Lowe wrote: > > From: "Brian Litzinger" > > > > I compiled m-src.020896.tar.gz on a 2.2-current system, and everything > > works fine except vat. > I use the stuff in m-src with -current and the -current sound stuff. I > havn't upgraded my sound stuff to work with the new full duplex sound > code at this time. > > I think this means that if you are running -current and the new sound > stuff, you need to add the proper sound driver to vat. If you are > running -current with the -current sound stuff you need to run vmix > and use vat with the -U /tmp/vmixsock option. > > Sometime soon we should get all this sound stuff straightened out... How about the /dev configuration? kim From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Feb 27 02:11:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA27715 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 02:11:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA27706 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 02:10:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id CAA03871; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 02:15:00 -0800 Message-Id: <199602271015.CAA03871@MediaCity.com> Subject: Re: vat: To: james@miller.cs.uwm.edu (Jim Lowe) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 02:15:00 -0800 (PST) From: "Brian Litzinger" Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199602261420.IAA13432@miller.cs.uwm.edu> from "Jim Lowe" at Feb 26, 96 08:20:43 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > > > From: "Brian Litzinger" > > > > I compiled m-src.020896.tar.gz on a 2.2-current system, and everything > > works fine except vat. > > > > # ./vat localhost/2020 > > vat: null proc called: > > unknown option "-activeforeground" > > while executing > > "$w cget $option" > > > > Where did I go wrong? > > I think this means that if you are running -current and the new sound > stuff, you need to add the proper sound driver to vat. If you are > running -current with the -current sound stuff you need to run vmix > and use vat with the -U /tmp/vmixsock option. I'm running -current with voxware 3.5alpha9. The mistake was leaving audio-voxware.cc out of vat, which I have now remedied. Thanks, -- Brian Litzinger Powered by FreeBSD http[s]://www.mpress.com From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Feb 27 06:00:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA19472 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 06:00:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from miller.cs.uwm.edu (miller.cs.uwm.edu [129.89.9.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA19452 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 06:00:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from james@localhost) by miller.cs.uwm.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA08871; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 08:00:06 -0600 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 08:00:06 -0600 From: Jim Lowe Message-Id: <199602271400.IAA08871@miller.cs.uwm.edu> To: kimc@w8hd.org Subject: Re: vat: Cc: brian@easy1.mediacity.com, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > From: Kim Culhan > > On Mon, 26 Feb 1996, Jim Lowe wrote: > > > > From: "Brian Litzinger" > > > > > > I compiled m-src.020896.tar.gz on a 2.2-current system, and everything > > > works fine except vat. > > > I use the stuff in m-src with -current and the -current sound stuff. I > > havn't upgraded my sound stuff to work with the new full duplex sound > > code at this time. > > > > I think this means that if you are running -current and the new sound > > stuff, you need to add the proper sound driver to vat. If you are > > running -current with the -current sound stuff you need to run vmix > > and use vat with the -U /tmp/vmixsock option. > > > > Sometime soon we should get all this sound stuff straightened out... > > How about the /dev configuration? > If you run -current with the -current sound stuff, then the MAKEDEV in /usr/src/etc/etc.i386/MAKEDEV will make the correct devices. I think all you will have to do is change isa.c and comment out the annoying printf's that someone installed. I am not sure about -current with the full duplex sound code that is located on rah.star-gate.com since I havn't installed that yet on my machine. -Jim From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Feb 27 11:17:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA14171 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 11:17:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA14165 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 11:17:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA13068 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 11:16:50 -0800 (PST) To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: "Charles M. Hannum": Quake Deathmatch works! Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 11:16:50 -0800 Message-ID: <13066.825448610@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk [Well, if we're going to switch over to this mailing list then I guess we'd better start *posting* here! :-)] Grr.. :-) ------- Forwarded Message Return-Path: owner-port-i386@NetBSD.ORG Received: from pain.lcs.mit.edu (pain.lcs.mit.edu [128.52.46.239]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA12444 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 08:25:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pain.lcs.mit.edu (8.7.4/8.6.12) id FAA14673; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 05:04:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from zygorthian-space-raiders.MIT.EDU by pain.lcs.mit.edu (8.7.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id EAA14599; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 04:37:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mycroft@localhost) by zygorthian-space-raiders.MIT.EDU (8.7.4/8.6.11) id EAA02793; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 04:37:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 04:37:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199602270937.EAA02793@zygorthian-space-raiders.MIT.EDU> From: "Charles M. Hannum" To: netbsd-announce@NetBSD.ORG Cc: port-i386@NetBSD.ORG Subject: Quake Deathmatch works! Sender: owner-port-i386@NetBSD.ORG Precedence: list X-Loop: port-i386@NetBSD.ORG The Quake Deathmatch test works under NetBSD-current, with COMPAT_LINUX and an /emul/linux/lib populated with ELF libraries. Local playing should work on any recent kernel; for network playing, you'll need some changes I just committed to emulate various Linux SIOC* calls. I'm going to look at the sound support... ------- End of Forwarded Message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Feb 27 13:05:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA03269 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 13:05:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03263 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 13:05:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA14048 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 13:04:47 -0800 (PST) To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Seeking advice on mrouted configuration.. Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 13:04:47 -0800 Message-ID: <14046.825455087@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I'll try and save everyone's time with a quick diagram here of the various machines involved: ----------------------------------------------------------------- jkh home side || walnut creek side \/ time whisker ed0 <---------> ed0 freefall sl0 <---------> sl0 who ed0 <---------> ed0 <---> BARRNET who, which is the primary point of entry for WC's mbone feed, runs mrouted with a very simply mrouted.conf: tunnel 192.216.222.3 192.216.178.67 metric 1 threshold 64 rate_limit 400 Which is our tunnel to BARRNET. However, I also want who to forward multicast traffic to freefall which should in turn route it to whisker (my LAN's gateway) which should then put it on the wire for any of my hosts to see, right? Well, at least in theory.. I'm still battling mrouted on freefall, trying to get it to stop doing this: 13:02:53.546 mrouted version 3.8 13:02:53.643 Getting vifs from kernel interfaces 13:02:53.644 installing ed0 (192.216.222.4 on subnet 192.216.222.0/28) as vif #0 - rate=0 13:02:53.645 warning - ignoring sl0, same subnet as ed0 That kind of scotches my route to whisker, naturally. So the question of the hour for me is: How do I get it to stop ignoring this second interface? Any configuration tips in general? I'm definitely a newbie when it comes to multicast! Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Feb 27 13:56:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA08847 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 13:56:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc40-203.dev.oclc.org (pc40-203.dev.oclc.org [132.174.40.203]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA08835 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 13:56:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ilko@localhost) by pc40-203.dev.oclc.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA00796 for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 16:55:31 GMT Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.3 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: ilko@oclc.org Organization: Online Computer Library Center Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 16:55:06 From: "Jon T. Ilko" To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Feb 27 14:32:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA13425 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 14:32:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from silver.sms.fi (root@silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA13420 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 14:32:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.6.12/8.6.9) id AAA07272; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 00:31:03 +0200 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 00:31:03 +0200 Message-Id: <199602272231.AAA07272@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Seeking advice on mrouted configuration.. In-Reply-To: <14046.825455087@time.cdrom.com> References: <14046.825455087@time.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Jordan K. Hubbard writes: > > So the question of the hour for me is: How do I get it to stop > ignoring this second interface? Any configuration tips in general? > I'm definitely a newbie when it comes to multicast! > Tunnels are for railroads. Run your multicast native and you'll be much happier. If you can't, then do tunnels as last resort... Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Feb 27 15:31:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA20886 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 15:31:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA20876 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 15:31:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA14463; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 15:30:24 -0800 (PST) To: Petri Helenius cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Seeking advice on mrouted configuration.. In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 28 Feb 1996 00:31:03 +0200." <199602272231.AAA07272@silver.sms.fi> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 15:30:24 -0800 Message-ID: <14461.825463824@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Jordan K. Hubbard writes: > > > > So the question of the hour for me is: How do I get it to stop > > ignoring this second interface? Any configuration tips in general? > > I'm definitely a newbie when it comes to multicast! > > > Tunnels are for railroads. Run your multicast native and you'll be > much happier. If you can't, then do tunnels as last resort... I don't think you understood my question. I have a tunnel to BARRNET since it's the only way I can get traffic from them, period. Now I very much want to "run native" on my own local ethernets but can't so long as mrouted refuses to even look at my sl0 interface on freefall! :-( Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Feb 27 16:05:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA25093 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 16:05:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from moonpie.w8hd.org (moonpie.w8hd.org [198.252.159.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA25087 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 16:05:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kimc@localhost) by moonpie.w8hd.org (8.7.4/8.6.12) id TAA00345; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 19:04:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 19:04:24 -0500 (EST) From: Kim Culhan To: Jim Lowe cc: brian@easy1.mediacity.com, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org, multimedia@rah.star-gate.com Subject: have vat partly working In-Reply-To: <199602271400.IAA08871@miller.cs.uwm.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I can hear the tone generator but the mic audio does not work. The problem appears to be the configuration of the /devs Below the 'play' button and above the meter the device reads: /dev/pcaudio The above tone is directed out the pc speaker.. hmm not surprising. On the record side that space is blank and clicking on the record box does not cause it to latch on. regards kim -- kimc@w8hd.org From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Feb 27 16:39:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA28313 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 16:39:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from homer27.u.washington.edu (junkins@homer27.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA28306 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 16:39:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by homer27.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA63251; Tue, 27 Feb 96 16:38:34 -0800 X-Sender: junkins@homer27.u.washington.edu Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 16:38:33 -0800 (PST) From: "D. Junkins" To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Seeking advice on mrouted configuration.. In-Reply-To: <14046.825455087@time.cdrom.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >From a traceroute it looks like you are using 192.216.222.2 (with a name jkh-sl.cdrom.com) for the slip interface on whisker. Freefall and who are also on network 192.216.222/28. This means that your slip link on freefall is also on the same network (192.216.222/28). Mrouted may not be able to handle routing information out an interface on the same subnet the way unicast routing can. I can think of two solutions for this problem: 1) Renumber the slip link to be on the same IP network as time and whisker instead of freefall and who. 2) Run mrouted on either time or whisker and setup a tunnel from mrouted running on who or freefall. I don't know what other circumstances may be keeping you from renumbering the slip link, but it is probably a more attractive solution since you loose the extra 20 bytes/packet overhead of a second IP header when you tunnel over an already slow slip link. - Doug +------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ | Doug Junkins | See my home page for my PGP Public Key | | Network Engineer +------------------------------------------+ | Computers & Communications | junkins@u.washington.edu | | University of Washington | http://weber.u.washington.edu/~junkins | +------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ On Tue, 27 Feb 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > I'll try and save everyone's time with a quick diagram here of the > various machines involved: > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > jkh home side || walnut creek side > \/ > time whisker > ed0 <---------> ed0 freefall > sl0 <---------> sl0 who > ed0 <---------> ed0 <---> BARRNET > > > who, which is the primary point of entry for WC's mbone feed, > runs mrouted with a very simply mrouted.conf: > > tunnel 192.216.222.3 192.216.178.67 metric 1 threshold 64 rate_limit 400 > > Which is our tunnel to BARRNET. However, I also want who to forward > multicast traffic to freefall which should in turn route it to whisker > (my LAN's gateway) which should then put it on the wire for any of my > hosts to see, right? > > Well, at least in theory.. I'm still battling mrouted on freefall, > trying to get it to stop doing this: > > 13:02:53.546 mrouted version 3.8 > 13:02:53.643 Getting vifs from kernel interfaces > 13:02:53.644 installing ed0 (192.216.222.4 on subnet 192.216.222.0/28) as vif #0 - rate=0 > 13:02:53.645 warning - ignoring sl0, same subnet as ed0 > > That kind of scotches my route to whisker, naturally. > > So the question of the hour for me is: How do I get it to stop > ignoring this second interface? Any configuration tips in general? > I'm definitely a newbie when it comes to multicast! > > Jordan > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Feb 27 17:07:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA00828 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 17:07:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA00823 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 17:07:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA14851; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 17:06:35 -0800 (PST) To: "D. Junkins" cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Seeking advice on mrouted configuration.. In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 27 Feb 1996 16:38:33 PST." Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 17:06:34 -0800 Message-ID: <14849.825469594@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > From a traceroute it looks like you are using 192.216.222.2 (with a name > jkh-sl.cdrom.com) for the slip interface on whisker. Freefall and who > are also on network 192.216.222/28. This means that your slip link on > freefall is also on the same network (192.216.222/28). Mrouted may not > be able to handle routing information out an interface on the same > subnet the way unicast routing can. I can think of two solutions for this > problem: > > 1) Renumber the slip link to be on the same IP network as time and > whisker instead of freefall and who. OK, done.. root@who-> traceroute time traceroute to time.cdrom.com (192.216.222.226), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 freefall.freebsd.org (192.216.222.4) 1.129 ms 0.959 ms 0.846 ms 2 jkh-sl (192.216.222.224) 97.265 ms 99.049 ms 95.184 ms 3 time (192.216.222.226) 100.722 ms 106.373 ms 96.981 ms root@freefall-> mrouted -d debug level 2 17:05:17.190 mrouted version 3.8 17:05:17.267 Getting vifs from kernel interfaces 17:05:17.271 installing ed0 (192.216.222.4 on subnet 192.216.222.0/28) as vif #0 - rate=0 17:05:17.272 warning - ignoring sl0, same subnet as ed0 17:05:17.274 Getting vifs from /etc/mrouted.conf 17:05:17.281 can't forward: only one enabled vif Hmmm. Bleh.. :-( Thanks for the tip though - just one more magic flag someplace, perhaps? I forgot to mention it before, but all mrouteds here are version 3.8. Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Feb 27 17:14:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA01363 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 17:14:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from miller.cs.uwm.edu (miller.cs.uwm.edu [129.89.9.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA01354 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 17:14:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from james@localhost) by miller.cs.uwm.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA28949; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 19:14:32 -0600 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 19:14:32 -0600 From: Jim Lowe Message-Id: <199602280114.TAA28949@miller.cs.uwm.edu> To: kimc@w8hd.org Subject: Re: have vat partly working Cc: brian@easy1.mediacity.com, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org, multimedia@rah.star-gate.com Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > From: Kim Culhan > Subject: have vat partly working > > I can hear the tone generator but the mic audio does not work. > > The problem appears to be the configuration of the /devs > > Below the 'play' button and above the meter the device reads: /dev/pcaudio > The above tone is directed out the pc speaker.. hmm not surprising. > > On the record side that space is blank and clicking on the record box > does not cause it to latch on. I take it you are talking about vmix. I think you probably want a ~/.vmix.tcl file to change your defaults. You can also type in the boxes where it reads: /dev/pcaudio. I would use one of the following: # Pas card #option add Vmix.recordDev "/dev/dsp0" #option add Vmix.playDev "/dev/dsp1" #option add Vmix.recordRate 8116 # Gus card option add Vmix.recordDev "/dev/dsp1" option add Vmix.playDev "/dev/dsp0" option add Vmix.recordRate 8230 option add Vmix.voxMixerDev "/dev/mixer0" If you are using a SB card, then you will need something different yet... -Jim From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Feb 27 17:21:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA01850 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 17:21:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from miller.cs.uwm.edu (miller.cs.uwm.edu [129.89.9.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA01844 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 17:21:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from james@localhost) by miller.cs.uwm.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA29498; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 19:21:26 -0600 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 19:21:26 -0600 From: Jim Lowe Message-Id: <199602280121.TAA29498@miller.cs.uwm.edu> To: james@miller.cs.uwm.edu, kimc@w8hd.org Subject: Re: have vat partly working Cc: brian@easy1.mediacity.com, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org, multimedia@rah.star-gate.com Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I should have also added to my last message (as Amancio will probably point out) that vmix should only be used with the sound drivers that are in -current or -stable. I havnt' updated or changed it to work with the new full duplex sound code. -Jim From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Feb 27 17:28:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA02097 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 17:28:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from moonpie.w8hd.org (moonpie.w8hd.org [198.252.159.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA02085 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 17:28:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kimc@localhost) by moonpie.w8hd.org (8.7.4/8.6.12) id UAA00964; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 20:28:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 20:28:01 -0500 (EST) From: Kim Culhan To: Jim Lowe cc: james@miller.cs.uwm.edu, brian@easy1.mediacity.com, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.org, multimedia@rah.star-gate.com Subject: Re: have vat partly working In-Reply-To: <199602280121.TAA29498@miller.cs.uwm.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 27 Feb 1996, Jim Lowe wrote: > I should have also added to my last message (as Amancio will probably > point out) that vmix should only be used with the sound drivers that > are in -current or -stable. I havnt' updated or changed it to > work with the new full duplex sound code. Yes this is just where I am and thanks for info in your last message, I just finished reading it. More distractions just now but I can't wait to get back here, its been a long project :) regards kim -- kimc@w8hd.org From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Feb 27 18:59:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA09201 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 18:59:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA09196 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 18:59:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA24486 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 18:58:55 -0800 (PST) To: freebsd-multimedia@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: Feh! mrouted is eating my brain.. Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 18:58:55 -0800 Message-ID: <24484.825476335@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Well, I've subjected my little network to all sorts of major upheavals and tried various things which simply seem to have moved the problem around. I switched freefall so that it talked to the slip line at a different subnet address but it moved the same problem to the other side, routing from the sl0 address to my own subnet. I think I could have made it work with more kludging, but 4 addresses for one point to point connection? Bleah! Forget it! I now have a tunnel (be they for railroads or not) going from who to whisker and it works just fine. Show me how to make mrouted route between interfaces on the same subnet and I'll be more than happy to dispense with the tunnel again! :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Feb 27 21:06:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA12508 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 21:06:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA12503 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 21:06:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from silver.sms.fi (root@silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.1]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id VAA21927 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 21:06:33 -0800 Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.6.12/8.6.9) id HAA08067; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 07:02:36 +0200 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 07:02:36 +0200 Message-Id: <199602280502.HAA08067@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Seeking advice on mrouted configuration.. In-Reply-To: <14461.825463824@time.cdrom.com> References: <199602272231.AAA07272@silver.sms.fi> <14461.825463824@time.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Jordan K. Hubbard writes: > I don't think you understood my question. I have a tunnel to BARRNET > since it's the only way I can get traffic from them, period. Now I > very much want to "run native" on my own local ethernets but can't so > long as mrouted refuses to even look at my sl0 interface on freefall! :-( > Give us ifconfig -a and netstat -r on all machines, please. Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Feb 27 21:29:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA12840 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 21:29:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA12835 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 21:29:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA00366; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 21:24:06 -0800 (PST) To: Petri Helenius cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Seeking advice on mrouted configuration.. In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 28 Feb 1996 07:02:36 +0200." <199602280502.HAA08067@silver.sms.fi> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 21:24:06 -0800 Message-ID: <364.825485046@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Give us ifconfig -a and netstat -r on all machines, please. OK, first again the diagram: time whisker ed0 <---------> ed0 freefall sl0 <---------> sl0 who ed0 <---------> ed0 <---> BARRNET Now the readings: root@time-> ifconfig -a de0: flags=c843 mtu 1500 inet 192.216.222.226 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast 192.216.222.239 ether 00:80:48:e8:01:4d lp0: flags=8810 mtu 1500 sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552 lo0: flags=8009 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 root@time-> netstat -r Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default whisker UGSc 7 18 de0 localhost localhost UH 1 11 lo0 jkh-Net/28 link#1 UC 0 0 time localhost UGHS 5 125 lo0 whisker 0:0:c0:13:92:72 UHLW 9 9 de0 997 JKH-BCast link#1 UHLW 1 19 BASE-ADDRESS.MCAST link#1 UCS 0 0 224.2.1.1 link#1 UHLW 1 4 224.2.127.255 link#1 UHLW 1 4 root@whisker-> ifconfig -a ed0: flags=8a43 mtu 1500 inet 192.216.222.228 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast 192.216.222.239 ether 00:00:c0:13:92:72 lp0: flags=8810 mtu 1500 tun0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 sl0: flags=9011 mtu 552 inet 192.216.222.224 --> 192.216.222.2 netmask 0xfffffff0 ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8009 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 root@whisker-> netstat -r Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default jkh-sl UGc 4 64 sl0 localhost localhost UH 1 0 lo0 Outside-Net/28 jkh-sl UGc 2 304 sl0 jkh-sl jkh-Net UH 9 145 sl0 jkh-Net/28 link#1 UC 0 0 time 0:80:48:e8:1:4d UHLW 5 1942 ed0 376 whisker localhost UGHS 2 27 lo0 morton 0:0:c0:3d:b8:8d UHLW 0 1 ed0 944 JKH-BCast link#1 UHLW 1 34 192.216.223 jkh-sl UGc 0 0 sl0 BASE-ADDRESS.MCAST link#1 UCS 0 0 ALL-SYSTEMS.MCAST. 1:0:5e:0:0:1 UHLW 0 2 DVMRP.MCAST.NET 1:0:5e:0:0:4 UHLW 0 25 224.2.127.255 1:0:5e:2:7f:ff UHLW 0 19 root@freefall-> ifconfig -a ed0: flags=8863 mtu 1500 inet 192.216.222.4 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast 192.216.222.15 ether 00:00:c0:bc:55:7d lo0: flags=8009 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 ppp1: flags=8010 mtu 1500 sl0: flags=d011 mtu 552 inet 192.216.222.2 --> 192.216.222.224 netmask 0xfffffff0 sl1: flags=c010 mtu 552 root@freefall-> netstat -r Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire localhost.cdrom. localhost.cdrom.co UH 0 5527 lo0 Outside-Net.cdro link#1 UC 2 0 Outside-Net.cdro link#1 UCc 1 0 gatekeeper.cdrom 0:0:c:3b:b2:9f UHLW 0 0 ed0 1193 jkh-sl.cdrom.com jkh-Net.cdrom.com UGH 0 0 sl0 jkh-sl.cdrom.com 0:0:c0:bc:55:7d UHLS2 0 0 ed0 who.cdrom.com 0:0:c0:f6:f8:96 UHLW 6 423847 ed0 492 freefall.FreeBSD 0:0:c0:bc:55:7d UHLW 0 8 lo0 Outside-BCast.cd link#1 UHLW 1 179 jkh-Net.cdrom.co jkh-sl.cdrom.com UH 1 109 sl0 => 192.216.222.224 whisker.cdrom.com UGSc 0 0 sl0 => 192.216.222.224 jkh-sl.cdrom.com Uc 2 1540 sl0 BASE-ADDRESS.MCA link#1 UCS 0 0 root@who-> ifconfig -a ed0: flags=8a63 mtu 1500 inet 192.216.222.3 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast 192.216.222.15 ether 00:00:c0:f6:f8:96 ed1: flags=8a63 mtu 1500 inet 192.216.223.34 netmask 0xffffffe0 broadcast 192.216.223.63 ether 00:00:c0:f0:f8:96 lo0: flags=8009 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 root@who-> netstat -r Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default gatekeeper UGSc 71 1115616 ed0 localhost localhost UH 1 0 lo0 Outside-Net.cdro link#1 UC 1 0 gatekeeper 0:0:c:3b:b2:9f UHLW 64 0 ed0 1197 jkh-sl freefall.freebsd.o UGH 0 0 ed0 who localhost UGHS 2 4187 lo0 freefall.freebsd 0:0:c0:bc:55:7d UHLW 5 125639 ed0 469 atlantis 0:80:48:88:a6:a2 UHLW 1 96538 ed0 417 povray 0:0:c0:5c:a9:67 UHLW 0 59566 ed0 285 Outside-BCast link#1 UHLW 1 684 192.216.222.224 freefall.freebsd.o UGc 1 57 ed0 whisker freefall.freebsd.o UGHD 1 5319 ed0 192.216.223.32 link#2 UC 1 0 reason 0:0:c0:b9:98:72 UHLW 0 29978 ed1 245 who 0:0:c0:f0:f8:96 UHLW 5 76675 lo0 squiddy 0:0:c0:82:55:7d UHLW 8 3890 ed1 436 Devel-BCast link#2 UHLW 0 1 192.216.223.64 squiddy UGc 0 418 ed1 192.216.223.96 squiddy UGc 0 0 ed1 192.216.223.128 squiddy UGc 2 432833 ed1 192.216.223.160 squiddy UGc 1 338650 ed1 192.216.223.192 squiddy UGc 0 43125 ed1 BASE-ADDRESS.MCA link#1 UCS 0 0 ALL-SYSTEMS.MCAS link#1 UHLW 0 4 DVMRP.MCAST.NET link#1 UHLW 0 48 Well, you did ask for it.. :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Feb 27 22:35:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA15266 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 22:35:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from silver.sms.fi (root@silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA15257 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 22:35:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.6.12/8.6.9) id IAA08427; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 08:34:19 +0200 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 08:34:19 +0200 Message-Id: <199602280634.IAA08427@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Seeking advice on mrouted configuration.. In-Reply-To: <364.825485046@time.cdrom.com> References: <199602280502.HAA08067@silver.sms.fi> <364.825485046@time.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Jordan K. Hubbard writes: > > root@freefall-> ifconfig -a > ed0: flags=8863 mtu 1500 > inet 192.216.222.4 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast 192.216.222.15 > ether 00:00:c0:bc:55:7d > sl0: flags=d011 mtu 552 > inet 192.216.222.2 --> 192.216.222.224 netmask 0xfffffff0 > sl1: flags=c010 mtu 552 > root@freefall-> netstat -r You are still using addresses from the same subnet on two interfaces on freefall (ed0 and sl0). In order for the mrouted to function you must have distinct subnets on different links. So most likely you have to change the IP address of sl0. Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Feb 27 22:44:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA15816 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 22:44:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au (pp@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au [130.102.2.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA15798 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 22:44:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au by bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au id <24920-0@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au>; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 16:22:28 +1000 Received: from netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au by pandora.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.10/DEVETIR-E0.3a) with ESMTP id QAA03468 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 16:22:16 +1000 Received: from localhost by netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.8.1/DEVETIR-0.1) id GAA20033 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 06:25:04 GMT Message-Id: <199602280625.GAA20033@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: New sound code & Quake X-Face: 3}heU+2?b->-GSF-G4T4>jEB9~FR(V9lo&o>kAy=Pj&;oVOc<|pr%I/VSG"ZD32J>5gGC0N 7gj]^GI@M:LlqNd]|(2OxOxy@$6@/!,";-!OlucF^=jq8s57$%qXd/ieC8DhWmIy@J1AcnvSGV\|*! >Bvu7+0h4zCY^]{AxXKsDTlgA2m]fX$W@'8ev-Qi+-;%L'CcZ'NBL!@n?}q!M&Em3*eW7,093nOeV8 M)(u+6D;%B7j\XA/9j4!Gj~&jYzflG[#)E9sI&Xe9~y~Gn%fA7>F:YKr"Wx4cZU*6{^2ocZ!YyR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 16:25:03 +1000 From: Stephen Hocking Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I've just picked up the linux quake, and in it it says that it needs to have the latest soundcode, and I quote... "This version of Quake requires that you have the new mmapable sound driver. You can find the sound code at tasd-3.5-beta7.tar.gz from ftp.best.com/pub/front/tasd. This code allows Quake to memory-map the sound DMA buffer, eliminating a seperate sound process, lowering latency, and better-modelling DOS code" Leaving aside the question of if "better-modelling DOS code" is a good idea, I note that the new sound code on linux allows the mmapping of the buffer. Do we offer this yet? Stephen -- I do not speak for the Worker's Compensation Board of Queensland - They don't pay me enough for that! From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Feb 27 23:08:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA17133 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 23:08:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA17127 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 23:08:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA01316; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 23:07:16 -0800 (PST) To: Petri Helenius cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Seeking advice on mrouted configuration.. In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 28 Feb 1996 08:34:19 +0200." <199602280634.IAA08427@silver.sms.fi> Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 23:07:16 -0800 Message-ID: <1314.825491236@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > You are still using addresses from the same subnet on two interfaces on > freefall (ed0 and sl0). In order for the mrouted to function you must have > distinct subnets on different links. So most likely you have to change the > IP address of sl0. I think I'll stick with my tunnel.. :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Feb 28 08:53:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA21557 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 08:53:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from plains.nodak.edu (tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu [134.129.111.64]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA21549 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 08:53:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by plains.nodak.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id KAA13471; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 10:53:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 10:53:10 -0600 (CST) From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <199602281653.KAA13471@plains.nodak.edu> To: jkh@time.cdrom.com, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Seeking advice on mrouted configuration.. Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > jkh home side || walnut creek side > \/ > time whisker > ed0 <---------> ed0 freefall > sl0 <---------> sl0 who > ed0 <---------> ed0 <---> BARRNET > > Well, at least in theory.. I'm still battling mrouted on freefall, > trying to get it to stop doing this: > > 13:02:53.546 mrouted version 3.8 > 13:02:53.643 Getting vifs from kernel interfaces > 13:02:53.644 installing ed0 (192.216.222.4 on subnet 192.216.222.0/28) as vif #0 - rate=0 > 13:02:53.645 warning - ignoring sl0, same subnet as ed0 your network numbers and network mask is giving you this problem. if mrouted thinks the ed0 and sl0 are on the same network because of overlaping netmasks, it will not forward to sl0. to get multicast to work on two sides of a ip/multicast router, we had to renumber a lab on the far side of a multicast/ip router because the lab was in the same network as the other interface. thanks for bringing this up, I guess I need to put this in the MROUTED Web page. --mark. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Feb 28 11:22:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA04359 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 11:22:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA04352 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 11:22:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA02919; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 11:21:53 -0800 (PST) To: Mark Tinguely cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Seeking advice on mrouted configuration.. In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 28 Feb 1996 10:53:10 CST." <199602281653.KAA13471@plains.nodak.edu> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 11:21:53 -0800 Message-ID: <2917.825535313@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > if mrouted thinks the ed0 and sl0 are on the same network because > of overlaping netmasks, it will not forward to sl0. Any chance of perhaps adding an option to *force* it to do so anyway? :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Feb 28 12:22:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA08545 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 12:22:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from silver.sms.fi (root@silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA08536 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 12:22:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.6.12/8.6.9) id WAA10133; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 22:22:31 +0200 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 22:22:31 +0200 Message-Id: <199602282022.WAA10133@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: stable mcast tools Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Any1 willing to update the tools on 2.1-stable to 3.8 level ? Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Feb 28 12:41:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA10113 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 12:41:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from silver.sms.fi (root@silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA10105 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 12:41:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.6.12/8.6.9) id WAA10252; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 22:40:58 +0200 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 22:40:58 +0200 Message-Id: <199602282040.WAA10252@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Mark Tinguely , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Seeking advice on mrouted configuration.. In-Reply-To: <2917.825535313@time.cdrom.com> References: <199602281653.KAA13471@plains.nodak.edu> <2917.825535313@time.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Jordan K. Hubbard writes: > > if mrouted thinks the ed0 and sl0 are on the same network because > > of overlaping netmasks, it will not forward to sl0. > > Any chance of perhaps adding an option to *force* it to do so anyway? :-) > Actually, if mrouted would be really VLSM in that sense, it would consider the destination address of the p2p interface as having a mask of /32 and would be a happy camper. I would ask Bill about what's going to break if you 'fix' that :-) More elegant way would of course to fix your ip-addressing :-) It shouldn't hurt too much to dedicate a subnet of /30 to your sl0-pair. Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Feb 28 13:01:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA11757 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 13:01:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA11750 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 13:01:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA03510; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 13:00:27 -0800 (PST) To: Petri Helenius cc: Mark Tinguely , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Seeking advice on mrouted configuration.. In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 28 Feb 1996 22:40:58 +0200." <199602282040.WAA10252@silver.sms.fi> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 13:00:27 -0800 Message-ID: <3508.825541227@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > More elegant way would of course to fix your ip-addressing :-) It shouldn't > hurt too much to dedicate a subnet of /30 to your sl0-pair. Gack. Arguably I shouldn't have to, no? Now I agree that sharing the same ipaddr for both ed0 and sl0 interfaces on freefall was evil, so I changed that. freefall now uses 192.216.222.4 (freefall) for ed0 and 192.216.222.2 (jkh-sl) for sl0. I also did the same thing on whisker, ed0 is 192.216.222.228 (whisker) and sl0 is 192.216.222.224 (jkh-Net). Yes, both pairs are in the same subnets, but that should be OK from a unicast point of view so why mandate special twisty semantics for multicast when you don't have to? Is it really so hard to make mrouted respect this scenario? Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Feb 28 15:48:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA27526 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 15:48:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from grolsch.cs.ubc.ca (grolsch.cs.ubc.ca [142.103.6.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA27521 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 15:48:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ean@localhost) by grolsch.cs.ubc.ca (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA00179 for multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 15:48:26 -0800 X400-Received: by /PRMD=ca/ADMD=telecom.canada/C=ca/; Relayed; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 15:48:22 UTC-0800 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 15:48:22 UTC-0800 X400-Originator: neufeld@cs.ubc.ca X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=ca/ADMD=telecom.canada/C=ca/;960228154822] Content-Identifier: 12666 From: Gerald Neufeld To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG (return) Message-ID: <"12666*neufeld@cs.ubc.ca"@MHS> Subject: vic help MIME-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Ean X.400 to MIME gateway) Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk I have been attempting to run vic2.7a31 for the last little while without success. Each time I try I get following message: vic: no support for your display type I am sure its some stupid little thing I have overlooked but I can not seem to find it! I am running tcl7.4 and tk4. Running nv seems to work fine together with vmix.0.3 (using a GUS MAX). Although I do keep getting: create_speaker: Error opening /dev/pcaudioctl: Device not configured for some reason when I start vmix. vmix does work however since I do use it to control the volume when running xcdplayer. It seems to have little or no effect when running vat. Anyway, I would certainly appreciate any help! Regards, Gerald From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Feb 28 17:54:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA06789 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 17:54:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from plains.nodak.edu (tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu [134.129.111.64]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA06784 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 17:54:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by plains.nodak.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id TAA21647; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 19:53:57 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 19:53:57 -0600 (CST) From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <199602290153.TAA21647@plains.nodak.edu> To: jkh@time.cdrom.com Subject: Re: Seeking advice on mrouted configuration.. Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > > if mrouted thinks the ed0 and sl0 are on the same network because > > of overlaping netmasks, it will not forward to sl0. > > Any chance of perhaps adding an option to *force* it to do so anyway? :-) the offending code is in the kernel. If I remember correctly, it is possible to bypass this netmask enforcement. I would have to think through the possibility of multicast routing problems. For example, mrouted may not forward something orginating on sl0, because it thinks ed0 attached devices already see the packet. --mark. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Feb 28 17:58:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA07232 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 17:58:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA07226 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 17:57:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA04834; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 17:54:49 -0800 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 17:54:47 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: freebsd-multimedia@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Feh! mrouted is eating my brain.. In-Reply-To: <24484.825476335@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Tue, 27 Feb 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > I now have a tunnel (be they for railroads or not) going from who to > whisker and it works just fine. Show me how to make mrouted route > between interfaces on the same subnet and I'll be more than happy > to dispense with the tunnel again! :-) On the same subnet? Should it be necessary? I can mbone with another machine on the same subnet as me just fine. It's getting to the rest of the world that's the problem... Don't try much on that slip link, it might not be able to take it. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Feb 28 18:03:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA07748 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 18:03:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA07743 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 18:03:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA04862; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 17:57:25 -0800 Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 17:57:25 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Gerald Neufeld cc: return Subject: Re: vic help In-Reply-To: <"12666*neufeld@cs.ubc.ca"@MHS> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Wed, 28 Feb 1996, Gerald Neufeld wrote: > I have been attempting to run vic2.7a31 for the last little while without > success. Each time I try I get following message: > > vic: no support for your display type vic requires 8 bit mode. If you're running in something other than that (16, 24, 32) you'll need to swich. > create_speaker: Error opening /dev/pcaudioctl: Device not configured That's another problem. :) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Feb 28 18:34:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA11031 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 18:34:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA11014 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 18:34:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA07410; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 18:34:36 -0800 (PST) To: Mark Tinguely cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Seeking advice on mrouted configuration.. In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 28 Feb 1996 19:53:57 CST." <199602290153.TAA21647@plains.nodak.edu> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 18:34:36 -0800 Message-ID: <7407.825561276@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > possibility of multicast routing problems. For example, mrouted may not forwa rd > something orginating on sl0, because it thinks ed0 attached devices already > see the packet. Hmmmm. Sounds like mrouted needs to become fundamentally aware of the existance of point-to-point links. :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Feb 28 18:35:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA11118 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 18:35:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA11108 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 18:35:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA07424; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 18:35:00 -0800 (PST) To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: freebsd-multimedia@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Feh! mrouted is eating my brain.. In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 28 Feb 1996 17:54:47 PST." Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 18:35:00 -0800 Message-ID: <7422.825561300@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > Don't try much on that slip link, it might not be able to take it. Well, it is an ISDN slip link. It has enough "woof" for simple testing. Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Feb 28 19:13:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA14574 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 19:13:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from moonpie.w8hd.org ([198.252.159.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA14556 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 19:13:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kimc@localhost) by moonpie.w8hd.org (8.7.4/8.6.12) id WAA00599; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 22:11:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 22:11:39 -0500 (EST) From: Kim Culhan To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, freebsd-multimedia@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Feh! mrouted is eating my brain.. In-Reply-To: <7422.825561300@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Wed, 28 Feb 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Don't try much on that slip link, it might not be able to take it. > > Well, it is an ISDN slip link. It has enough "woof" for simple > testing. I'd like to try some simple testing, just have the soundstuff working after ~4 wks :) kim From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Feb 28 23:54:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA17231 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 23:54:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from kanto.cc.jyu.fi (kallio@kanto.cc.jyu.fi [130.234.1.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA17221 for ; Wed, 28 Feb 1996 23:54:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kallio@localhost) by kanto.cc.jyu.fi (8.7.2/8.7.2) id JAA01375; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 09:54:28 +0200 (EET) Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 09:54:28 +0200 (EET) From: Seppo Kallio To: Gerald Neufeld cc: return Subject: Re: vic help In-Reply-To: <"12666*neufeld@cs.ubc.ca"@MHS> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Wed, 28 Feb 1996, Gerald Neufeld wrote: > I have been attempting to run vic2.7a31 for the last little while without > success. Each time I try I get following message: > > vic: no support for your display type Maybe you use 16 bit color depth. vic works only with 8 and 24/32 Seppo From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Feb 29 00:46:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA22437 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 00:46:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from silver.sms.fi (root@silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA22431 for ; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 00:46:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.6.12/8.6.9) id KAA11852; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 10:43:23 +0200 Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 10:43:23 +0200 Message-Id: <199602290843.KAA11852@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Cc: Gerald Neufeld , return Subject: Re: vic help In-Reply-To: References: <"12666*neufeld@cs.ubc.ca"@MHS> Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Doug White writes: > > vic: no support for your display type > > vic requires 8 bit mode. If you're running in something other than that > (16, 24, 32) you'll need to swich. > Vic supports also 24 bit. 16 bit is not supported but soon will be. Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Feb 29 02:34:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id CAA00368 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 02:34:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA00347 for ; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 02:33:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailgate.aist-nara.ac.jp (fsb1.aist-nara.ac.jp [163.221.76.12]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id CAA07531 for ; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 02:33:39 -0800 Received: from alpha503.aist-nara.ac.jp by mailgate.aist-nara.ac.jp (8.6.10+2.5Wb1/2.8Wb/NAIST-1.6[gate]) id TAA25570; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 19:30:36 +0900 Received: from localhost by alpha503.aist-nara.ac.jp (5.67+1.6W[kuis-17]/2.8Wb/NAIST-1.3[is]) id AA04848; Thu, 29 Feb 96 19:30:32 GMT+0900 Message-Id: <9602291030.AA04848@alpha503.aist-nara.ac.jp> To: Seppo Kallio Cc: Gerald Neufeld , return Reply-To: oka@is.aist-nara.ac.jp Subject: Re: vic help In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 29 Feb 1996 09:54:28 +0200. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="ISO-2022-JP" Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 19:30:32 +0900 From: Koji OKAMURA Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 09:54:28 +0200 (EET) > From: Seppo Kallio > > I have been attempting to run vic2.7a31 for the last little while without > > success. Each time I try I get following message: > > > > vic: no support for your display type > > Maybe you use 16 bit color depth. vic works only with 8 and 24/32 And 1 bit (mono). -- Koji P.S. I got freebsd box. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Feb 29 06:14:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id GAA12251 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 06:14:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from miller.cs.uwm.edu (miller.cs.uwm.edu [129.89.9.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA12233 for ; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 06:13:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from james@localhost) by miller.cs.uwm.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA04568; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 08:13:37 -0600 Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 08:13:37 -0600 From: Jim Lowe Message-Id: <199602291413.IAA04568@miller.cs.uwm.edu> To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, neufeld@cs.ubc.ca Subject: Re: vic help Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > I have been attempting to run vic2.7a31 for the last little while without > success. Each time I try I get following message: > > vic: no support for your display type > > I am sure its some stupid little thing I have overlooked but I can not seem > to find it! I am running tcl7.4 and tk4. If you are running 15/16 bpp (rgb 555, 565), vic will have trouble with your display. I beleive it works in mono, 8bpp, 24/32bpp modes without a problem. Switching your X server to 8bpp for now will probably solve your immediate problem. > > Running nv seems to work fine together with vmix.0.3 (using a GUS MAX). > Although I do keep getting: > > create_speaker: Error opening /dev/pcaudioctl: Device not configured This is because the pca0 device isn't configured into your kernel. Vmix assumes (probably inappropriatly... but what do you want for alpha code) the pca0 device is always configured into the kernel. I beleive there is a hint to this in the README file that comes with vmix. > > for some reason when I start vmix. vmix does work however since I do use it > to control the volume when running xcdplayer. It seems to have little or no > effect when running vat. You will have to create a .vmix.tcl file for your sound card. There is a sample version in the README file for vmix. You then have to start vat with the ``-U /tmp/vmixsock'' option. If you are using sd, then modify your .sd.tcl file to include this option when vat is started. -Jim From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Feb 29 09:27:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA24253 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 09:27:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from grolsch.cs.ubc.ca (grolsch.cs.ubc.ca [142.103.6.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA24248 for ; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 09:27:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ean@localhost) by grolsch.cs.ubc.ca (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA29956 for multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 09:27:34 -0800 X400-Received: by /PRMD=ca/ADMD=telecom.canada/C=ca/; Relayed; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 9:27:31 UTC-0800 Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 9:27:31 UTC-0800 X400-Originator: neufeld@cs.ubc.ca X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) X400-MTS-Identifier: [/PRMD=ca/ADMD=telecom.canada/C=ca/;960229092731] Content-Identifier: 12677 From: Gerald Neufeld To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG (return) In-Reply-To: <199602291413.IAA04568@miller.cs.uwm.edu> Message-ID: <"12677*neufeld@cs.ubc.ca"@MHS> Subject: Re: vic help (thanks) MIME-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Ean X.400 to MIME gateway) Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Thanks every one for so quickly solving both my problems. I am now able to use vic and vat together with vmix.03. After all these years in computing it still amazeses me how much fun it is! Now on to try out my new Matrox card ... Thanks again, Gerald From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Feb 29 12:54:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA07210 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 12:54:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu ([128.223.170.164]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA07197 for ; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 12:54:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA14569; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 12:51:09 -0800 Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 12:51:07 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Petri Helenius cc: Gerald Neufeld , return Subject: Re: vic help In-Reply-To: <199602290843.KAA11852@silver.sms.fi> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 29 Feb 1996, Petri Helenius wrote: > Doug White writes: > > > vic: no support for your display type > > > > vic requires 8 bit mode. If you're running in something other than that > > (16, 24, 32) you'll need to swich. > > > Vic supports also 24 bit. 16 bit is not supported but soon will be. 16 bit would be nice since I'm stuck at 800x600 (2mb) in 1024x768. But 24 bit mode looks *MUCH*MUCH* better than 8 bit!! (It's great resolution!) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Feb 29 21:10:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA15458 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 21:10:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com ([204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA15453 for ; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 21:10:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA06994 for ; Thu, 29 Feb 1996 21:10:05 -0800 Message-Id: <199603010510.VAA06994@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: GUS full duplex audio Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 21:10:04 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk If you want full duplex audio when runninng vat with a GUS PnP in the menu Panel select "full-duplex". Now if you have an old GUS Max you will get feedback. Cheers, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 1 01:33:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id BAA29586 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 01:33:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA29580 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 01:33:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id BAA21803; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 01:38:09 -0800 Message-Id: <199603010938.BAA21803@MediaCity.com> Subject: Re: GUS full duplex audio To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty Jr.) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 01:38:09 -0800 (PST) From: "Brian Litzinger" Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199603010510.VAA06994@rah.star-gate.com> from "Amancio Hasty Jr." at Feb 29, 96 09:10:04 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 ME8b] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > If you want full duplex audio when runninng vat with a GUS PnP in the > menu Panel select "full-duplex". > > Now if you have an old GUS Max you will get feedback. > Amancio How is the mic transmission thresholding determined by vat when in full-duplex mode? Or does it just xmit all the time. -- Brian Litzinger Powered by FreeBSD http[s]://www.mpress.com From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 1 05:44:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA11551 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 05:44:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from moonpie.w8hd.org (moonpie.w8hd.org [198.252.159.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA11545 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 05:44:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kimc@localhost) by moonpie.w8hd.org (8.7.4/8.6.12) id IAA04610; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 08:43:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 08:43:48 -0500 (EST) From: Kim Culhan To: "Amancio Hasty Jr." cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GUS full duplex audio In-Reply-To: <199603010510.VAA06994@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 29 Feb 1996, Amancio Hasty Jr. wrote: > > > If you want full duplex audio when runninng vat with a GUS PnP in the > menu Panel select "full-duplex". > > Now if you have an old GUS Max you will get feedback. I have vat running here and will install the PnP this weekend, should be good! kim -- kimc@w8hd.org From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 1 10:10:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA28489 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 10:10:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA28474 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 10:10:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA02592; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 10:10:14 -0800 Message-Id: <199603011810.KAA02592@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: "Brian Litzinger" cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GUS full duplex audio In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 01 Mar 1996 01:38:09 PST." <199603010938.BAA21803@MediaCity.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 10:10:13 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>> "Brian Litzinger" said: > > If you want full duplex audio when runninng vat with a GUS PnP in the > > menu Panel select "full-duplex". > > > > Now if you have an old GUS Max you will get feedback. > > Amancio > > How is the mic transmission thresholding determined by vat when in > full-duplex mode? Or does it just xmit all the time. > Not sure just play with it . Bettina and I held a short conversation while both talking at the same time. Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 1 10:55:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA00855 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 10:55:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from miller.cs.uwm.edu (miller.cs.uwm.edu [129.89.9.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA00849 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 10:55:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from james@localhost) by miller.cs.uwm.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA20036; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 12:54:25 -0600 Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 12:54:25 -0600 From: Jim Lowe Message-Id: <199603011854.MAA20036@miller.cs.uwm.edu> To: multimedia@rah.star-gate.com Subject: New meteor driver Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I put out another release of the meteor driver today. Hopefully, this will fix the problems that some people have been having with the S-Video input. It also has code in the driver for the meteor RGB support and some other bug fixes. I don't have a meteor RGB but I have been told that it works. I also put a a newer version of the mbone tools with source compiled for FreeBSD. Due to popular demand I changed the hardcoded paths to be relative :-). I changed nv and vic to work with the changes in the new driver and hopefully included all the changes need for vat to work with FreeBSD. The file includes sources, objects and binaries. It is 12 Meg compressed and about 50 Meg uncompressed. The URL's for the new stuff are: ftp://ftp.cs.uwm.edu/pub/FreeBSD/meteor.tgz ftp://ftp.cs.uwm.edu/pub/FreeBSD/m-src.tar.gz If you are having trouble with vic, vat, or nv under FreeBSD, please try the 3/1/96 release of the m-src tools along with meteor.1.0.10.tar.gz. If if doesn't work for you please let me know so I can update this code with fixes. Also, if someone has the qcam drivers for vic/nv, it would sure be nice to get them into this code... Enjoy, -Jim From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 1 11:31:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA02961 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 11:31:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA02956 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 11:31:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA15468; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 12:31:12 -0700 Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 12:31:12 -0700 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199603011931.MAA15468@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: Jim Lowe Cc: multimedia@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: New meteor driver In-Reply-To: <199603011854.MAA20036@miller.cs.uwm.edu> References: <199603011854.MAA20036@miller.cs.uwm.edu> Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk First of all, thanks Jim for doing this. > I also put a a newer version of the mbone tools with source compiled for > FreeBSD. Due to popular demand I changed the hardcoded paths to be > relative :-). I changed nv and vic to work with the changes in the new > driver and hopefully included all the changes need for vat to work > with FreeBSD. Which sound-driver are these sources compiled for? I've got a 2.1R box with a GUS, and I'd really like to get tools that work on it. :) Nate From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 1 11:57:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA04806 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 11:57:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from miller.cs.uwm.edu (miller.cs.uwm.edu [129.89.9.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA04795 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 11:57:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from james@localhost) by miller.cs.uwm.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id NAA25779; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 13:57:09 -0600 Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 13:57:09 -0600 From: Jim Lowe Message-Id: <199603011957.NAA25779@miller.cs.uwm.edu> To: nate@sri.MT.net Subject: Re: New meteor driver Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.org, multimedia@rah.star-gate.com Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > First of all, thanks Jim for doing this. Thanks for testing it :-). > > > I also put a a newer version of the mbone tools with source compiled for > > FreeBSD. Due to popular demand I changed the hardcoded paths to be > > relative :-). I changed nv and vic to work with the changes in the new > > driver and hopefully included all the changes need for vat to work > > with FreeBSD. > > Which sound-driver are these sources compiled for? I've got a 2.1R box > with a GUS, and I'd really like to get tools that work on it. :) I run with the sound drivers that are in -current. I beleive the -current sound drivers are the same as what is in 2.1R. There is a file there from Amancio called vat-hasty-fix. If you are running the alpha sound drivers on rah.star-gate.com I think you want to use that file for audio-voxware.c rather than the one that is supplied from vat. If you use the alpha sound drivers from rah.star-gate.com, do not use vmix as vmix only works with the -current/2.1R/2.1-stable sound drivers. One of these days when I get some time I will probably fix this mess so people won't have to worry about which sound drivers and from where, but right now I am rather swamped. -Jim From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 1 12:01:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA05170 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 12:01:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA05161 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 12:01:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA15618; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 13:04:32 -0700 Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 13:04:32 -0700 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199603012004.NAA15618@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: Jim Lowe Cc: nate@sri.MT.net, multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: New meteor driver In-Reply-To: <199603011957.NAA25779@miller.cs.uwm.edu> References: <199603011957.NAA25779@miller.cs.uwm.edu> Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jim Lowe writes: > > First of all, thanks Jim for doing this. > > Thanks for testing it :-). I will no that I can. :) [ new MBone tools ] > > Which sound-driver are these sources compiled for? I've got a 2.1R box > > with a GUS, and I'd really like to get tools that work on it. :) > > I run with the sound drivers that are in -current. I beleive the > -current sound drivers are the same as what is in 2.1R. Cool. So the binaries you created *should* drop in and work on my box, which include vmix, vat, and vic, right? > One of these days when I get some time I will probably fix this mess > so people won't have to worry about which sound drivers and from where, > but right now I am rather swamped. I *completely* understand. Nate From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 1 12:20:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA06441 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 12:20:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from miller.cs.uwm.edu (miller.cs.uwm.edu [129.89.9.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA06357 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 12:20:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from james@localhost) by miller.cs.uwm.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA29030; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 14:20:00 -0600 Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 14:20:00 -0600 From: Jim Lowe Message-Id: <199603012020.OAA29030@miller.cs.uwm.edu> To: nate@sri.MT.net Subject: Re: New meteor driver Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > From: Nate Williams > > Cool. So the binaries you created *should* drop in and work on my box, > which include vmix, vat, and vic, right? > Yes, that is what I am using. You might have to create a ~/.vmix.tcl file for your sound card. You kernel should probably have pca0 if you don't want to see an error when you start up vmix. -Jim From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 1 12:28:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA06938 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 12:28:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [192.216.222.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA06932 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 12:28:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from kanto.cc.jyu.fi (kallio@kanto.cc.jyu.fi [130.234.1.2]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id MAA14415 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 12:28:26 -0800 Received: (from kallio@localhost) by kanto.cc.jyu.fi (8.7.2/8.7.2) id WAA09546; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 22:22:31 +0200 (EET) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 22:22:30 +0200 (EET) From: Seppo Kallio To: Doug White cc: Petri Helenius , Gerald Neufeld , return Subject: Re: vic help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Thu, 29 Feb 1996, Doug White wrote: > On Thu, 29 Feb 1996, Petri Helenius wrote: > > Vic supports also 24 bit. 16 bit is not supported but soon will be. > > 16 bit would be nice since I'm stuck at 800x600 (2mb) in 1024x768. But > 24 bit mode looks *MUCH*MUCH* better than 8 bit!! (It's great resolution!) I think usually 16 bit is as good as 24/32 bit. It is sad so many apps do not work with 16 bit but 8 or 32(24) bit only! Seppo From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 1 17:23:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA25012 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 17:23:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA25006 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 17:23:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA05359; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 17:21:07 -0800 (PST) Prev-Resent: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 17:21:07 -0800 Prev-Resent: "multimedia@rah.star-gate.com multimedia@freebsd.org" Received: from pain.lcs.mit.edu (pain.lcs.mit.edu [128.52.46.239]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA05722 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 11:36:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by pain.lcs.mit.edu (8.7.4/8.6.12) id KAA10610; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 10:54:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from zygorthian-space-raiders.MIT.EDU by pain.lcs.mit.edu (8.7.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA10556 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 10:46:31 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mycroft@localhost) by zygorthian-space-raiders.MIT.EDU (8.7.4/8.6.11) id KAA01274; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 10:46:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 10:46:20 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199603011546.KAA01274@zygorthian-space-raiders.MIT.EDU> From: "Charles M. Hannum" To: port-i386@NetBSD.ORG Subject: Quake update X-Loop: port-i386@NetBSD.ORG Resent-To: multimedia@rah.star-gate.com Resent-cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Resent-Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 17:21:07 -0800 Resent-Message-ID: <5357.825729667@time.cdrom.com> Resent-From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk I've got 16-bit sound working on a SoundBlaster under DOOM. Quake requires a little more work, but should be fairly easy. Whee. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 1 20:20:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA06506 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 20:20:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA06500 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 20:20:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA05741; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 20:19:44 -0800 (PST) To: "Eric L. Hernes" cc: multimedia@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: which Motif? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 01 Mar 1996 14:34:33 CST." <199603012034.OAA01837@jake.lodgenet.com> Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 20:19:44 -0800 Message-ID: <5739.825740384@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > what is the consensus for the best implementation of motif? > I'd really like to get Xinside's, but it's not available > yet, any info on that? (Thomas?) I'm reviewing a 3rd party one right now.. I have no word on price yet, but there are more players now in the Motif market than just X Inside, Inc. If you can wait about 2 weeks, tops, I think I'll be able to answer which ones are actually _available_, much less better. Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 1 20:36:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA07992 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 20:36:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA07983 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 20:36:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA06860; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 20:35:53 -0800 Message-Id: <199603020435.UAA06860@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: "Eric L. Hernes" , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: which Motif? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 01 Mar 1996 20:19:44 PST." <5739.825740384@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 20:35:52 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Hopefully, the installation went smoothly 8) Amancio >>> "Jordan K. Hubbard" said: > > what is the consensus for the best implementation of motif? > > I'd really like to get Xinside's, but it's not available > > yet, any info on that? (Thomas?) > > I'm reviewing a 3rd party one right now.. I have no word on price > yet, but there are more players now in the Motif market than just X > Inside, Inc. If you can wait about 2 weeks, tops, I think I'll be > able to answer which ones are actually _available_, much less better. > > Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 1 20:40:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA08249 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 20:40:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA08244 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 20:40:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA06879; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 20:39:34 -0800 Message-Id: <199603020439.UAA06879@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: Jim Lowe cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: Sound bits.. ( was Re: New meteor driver ) In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 01 Mar 1996 13:57:09 CST." <199603011957.NAA25779@miller.cs.uwm.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 20:39:34 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>> Jim Lowe said: > One of these days when I get some time I will probably fix this mess > so people won't have to worry about which sound drivers and from where, > but right now I am rather swamped. "vat-hasty-fix" is a vat audio driver suitable for full duplex soundcards such as the GUS PnP and the GUS Max. The distributed vat audio driver for the Voxware sound driver is a half-duplex audio driver. One could merge my audio driver with the distributed vat audio driver so that we wouldn't need to burden people to know which audio module to use. If anyone is interested in helping out please drop me a note. Because I don't know C++, I need someone who knows C++ well to merge the two C++ audio driver modules. As for the glue logic to decide to use the half-duplex or the full duplex audio module , I can take care of that. The alpha sound driver in my ftp directory remains in an alpha stage till someone from the SB camp can step in and finish debugging the SB section. Since we are having problems recruiting someone to work on the SB section, we can sort of vote on to check in the sound driver in -current with the hope that a SB hacker will be motivated enough to work on it. As for the use of vmix as a socket interface , we should strongly consider merging in the code into vat so as to not burden users with the operational aspects of running vmix. In other words, we should try to keep it as simple as possible. The socket interface from vat to vmix was a good idea when we *didn't* have the sources for vat. Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 1 21:08:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id VAA09415 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 21:08:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA09410 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 21:08:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA07051 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 20:50:30 -0800 Message-Id: <199603020450.UAA07051@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quake update In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 01 Mar 1996 10:46:20 EST." <199603011546.KAA01274@zygorthian-space-raiders.MIT.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 20:49:55 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk This is fine, we have also sound with DOOM. However, I strongly suspect that Quake is using the latest linux sound driver which is a little bit more different than what Charles is emulating. Say jkh, I thought that they were ahead of us 8) Amancio >>> "Charles M. Hannum" said: > > I've got 16-bit sound working on a SoundBlaster under DOOM. Quake > requires a little more work, but should be fairly easy. > > Whee. > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Mar 1 22:11:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id WAA12596 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 22:11:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA12591 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 22:11:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA00309; Fri, 1 Mar 1996 22:09:37 -0800 (PST) To: Jim Lowe cc: multimedia@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New meteor driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 01 Mar 1996 12:54:25 CST." <199603011854.MAA20036@miller.cs.uwm.edu> Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 22:09:37 -0800 Message-ID: <307.825746977@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > I put out another release of the meteor driver today. Hopefully, this > will fix the problems that some people have been having with the S-Video > input. It also has code in the driver for the meteor RGB support and > some other bug fixes. I don't have a meteor RGB but I have been told > that it works. The driver has been tested and committed to -current. Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 2 07:34:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA20260 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 07:34:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from moonpie.w8hd.org (moonpie.w8hd.org [198.252.159.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA20252 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 07:34:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kimc@localhost) by moonpie.w8hd.org (8.7.4/8.6.12) id KAA00495; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 10:34:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 10:34:07 -0500 (EST) From: Kim Culhan To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Jim Lowe , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New meteor driver In-Reply-To: <307.825746977@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 1 Mar 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > I put out another release of the meteor driver today. Hopefully, this > > will fix the problems that some people have been having with the S-Video > > input. It also has code in the driver for the meteor RGB support and > > some other bug fixes. I don't have a meteor RGB but I have been told > > that it works. > > The driver has been tested and committed to -current. How did you test the S-VID input? To run amancio's tv program in svid mode, in tv.c I changed i = METEOR_INPUT_DEV0; to i = METEOR_INPUT_DEV2; This produces a monochrome picture here, I don't have a monitor with an s-vid input therefore no easy way to verify the hardware is Ok. I can get the scope out and check the signals on the s-vid connector pins but there must be a better way. regards kim -- kimc@w8hd.org From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 2 07:51:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id HAA21982 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 07:51:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from moonpie.w8hd.org (moonpie.w8hd.org [198.252.159.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA21974 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 07:51:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kimc@localhost) by moonpie.w8hd.org (8.7.4/8.6.12) id KAA01897; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 10:51:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 10:51:09 -0500 (EST) From: Kim Culhan To: Jim Lowe cc: multimedia@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New meteor driver In-Reply-To: <199603011854.MAA20036@miller.cs.uwm.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 1 Mar 1996, Jim Lowe wrote: > I also put a a newer version of the mbone tools with source compiled for > FreeBSD. Due to popular demand I changed the hardcoded paths to be > relative :-). I changed nv and vic to work with the changes in the new > driver and hopefully included all the changes need for vat to work > with FreeBSD. When I run nv it complains: ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libtcl.so.7.3" The tcl directory in the latest m-src doesn't build a shared library so what tcl-build was used when nv was created? regards kim -- kimc@w8hd.org From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 2 08:16:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA23456 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 08:16:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from bacall.lodgenet.com ([205.138.147.242]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA23417 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 08:16:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by bacall.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA12781 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 10:10:48 -0600 Received: from tserv.lodgenet.com(204.124.120.10) by bacall via smap (V1.3) id sma012778; Sat Mar 2 10:10:44 1996 Received: from jake.lodgenet.com (jake.lodgenet.com [204.124.120.30]) by tserv.lodgenet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA27159; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 09:37:06 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jake.lodgenet.com (8.7.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA05742; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 09:49:33 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199603021549.JAA05742@jake.lodgenet.com> X-Authentication-Warning: jake.lodgenet.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: multimedia@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: which Motif? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 01 Mar 1996 20:19:44 PST." <5739.825740384@time.cdrom.com> Date: Sat, 02 Mar 1996 09:49:33 -0600 From: "Eric L. Hernes" Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: > >I'm reviewing a 3rd party one right now.. I have no word on price >yet, but there are more players now in the Motif market than just X >Inside, Inc. If you can wait about 2 weeks, tops, I think I'll be Well, I've got this shiny new mpeg card and I'd like to get some of the mpeg tools compiled and such to play with (while I write the driver). yea, but I've looked at Swim Motif for linux, and it sucks. I've heard Moo-tif sucks, (if it's available). I've used Accelerated-X (a pretty old version now), and I was pretty impressed, so as far as I can tell they've at least got ability to put together a good product. >able to answer which ones are actually _available_, much less better. > > Jordan eric. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 2 09:52:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA02437 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 09:52:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from miller.cs.uwm.edu (miller.cs.uwm.edu [129.89.9.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA02432 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 09:52:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from james@localhost) by miller.cs.uwm.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA29745; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 11:52:45 -0600 Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 11:52:45 -0600 From: Jim Lowe Message-Id: <199603021752.LAA29745@miller.cs.uwm.edu> To: kimc@w8hd.org Subject: Re: New meteor driver Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org, multimedia@rah.star-gate.com Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Nv requires tcl 7.3 and the older version of tk. I should have linked it statically. I didn't think of that. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 2 10:00:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA03262 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 10:00:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from moonpie.w8hd.org (moonpie.w8hd.org [198.252.159.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA03253 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 10:00:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kimc@localhost) by moonpie.w8hd.org (8.7.4/8.6.12) id MAA02112; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 12:59:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 12:59:13 -0500 (EST) From: Kim Culhan To: Jim Lowe cc: multimedia@freebsd.org, multimedia@rah.star-gate.com Subject: Re: New meteor driver In-Reply-To: <199603021752.LAA29745@miller.cs.uwm.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 2 Mar 1996, Jim Lowe wrote: > Nv requires tcl 7.3 and the older version of tk. I should have > linked it statically. I didn't think of that. Its not a problem, 7.3 is handy, right in ports. If there were no changes required to the tcl7.3 source as it is in ports this will work fine, no? kim -- kimc@w8hd.org From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 2 10:20:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA05076 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 10:20:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from miller.cs.uwm.edu (miller.cs.uwm.edu [129.89.9.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA05060 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 10:19:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from james@localhost) by miller.cs.uwm.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA00688; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 12:19:48 -0600 Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 12:19:48 -0600 From: Jim Lowe Message-Id: <199603021819.MAA00688@miller.cs.uwm.edu> To: kimc@w8hd.org Subject: Re: New meteor driver Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org, multimedia@rah.star-gate.com Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Nope... I am sure that is where I am running tcl/tk from. -Jim From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 2 10:39:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA08162 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 10:39:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from mill2.millcomm.com (root@[199.170.133.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA08151 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 10:39:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from Dial-05.Mpls.MillComm.COM by mill2.millcomm.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0tswDa-000MgnC; Sat, 2 Mar 96 12:39 CST Message-Id: Date: Sat, 2 Mar 96 12:39 CST X-Sender: rons@millcomm.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org From: rons@millcomm.com (ron stoberg) Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk help From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 2 11:48:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA13060 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 11:48:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA13041 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 11:48:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA11351; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 11:46:50 -0800 (PST) To: Kim Culhan cc: Jim Lowe , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New meteor driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 02 Mar 1996 10:34:07 EST." Date: Sat, 02 Mar 1996 11:46:50 -0800 Message-ID: <11349.825796010@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > On Fri, 1 Mar 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > I put out another release of the meteor driver today. Hopefully, this > > > will fix the problems that some people have been having with the S-Video > > > input. It also has code in the driver for the meteor RGB support and > > > some other bug fixes. I don't have a meteor RGB but I have been told > > > that it works. > > > > The driver has been tested and committed to -current. > > How did you test the S-VID input? OK, so you caught me. I guess I should have said "I tested to make sure it didn't break any of *my* existing functionality.." :-) I actually don't have a video source (well, I do have 3 VCRs, but all of them are PAL and 220VAC!) so it's hard for me to test anything but your standard CCD camera input. Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 2 11:52:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA13378 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 11:52:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA13369 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 11:52:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA11381; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 11:50:43 -0800 (PST) To: Kim Culhan cc: Jim Lowe , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New meteor driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 02 Mar 1996 10:51:09 EST." Date: Sat, 02 Mar 1996 11:50:42 -0800 Message-ID: <11379.825796242@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk And darned if I can even get vic to compile anymore! Dratted Tk/Tcl incompatibilities! I now have Tk 3.6, 4.0 and 4.1 installed on this machine and the degree of confusion is palpable. Not quite sure how I'm going to untangle this yet. Jim - what versions of TCL and Tk are you using for all your own development? Jordan > On Fri, 1 Mar 1996, Jim Lowe wrote: > > > I also put a a newer version of the mbone tools with source compiled for > > FreeBSD. Due to popular demand I changed the hardcoded paths to be > > relative :-). I changed nv and vic to work with the changes in the new > > driver and hopefully included all the changes need for vat to work > > with FreeBSD. > > When I run nv it complains: > > ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libtcl.so.7.3" > > The tcl directory in the latest m-src doesn't build a shared library so > what tcl-build was used when nv was created? > > regards > kim > > -- > kimc@w8hd.org > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 2 11:54:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id LAA13482 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 11:54:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from moonpie.w8hd.org (moonpie.w8hd.org [198.252.159.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA13475 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 11:54:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kimc@localhost) by moonpie.w8hd.org (8.7.4/8.6.12) id OAA06600; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 14:53:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 14:53:29 -0500 (EST) From: Kim Culhan To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Jim Lowe , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New meteor driver In-Reply-To: <11349.825796010@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 2 Mar 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > On Fri, 1 Mar 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > OK, so you caught me. I guess I should have said "I tested to make sure > it didn't break any of *my* existing functionality.." :-) > > I actually don't have a video source (well, I do have 3 VCRs, but all > of them are PAL and 220VAC!) so it's hard for me to test anything but > your standard CCD camera input. I could probably find a 120 --> 220 transformer downstairs in the 'junkbox' :) Don't suppose it would care if the freq. is 60 Hz. I just fired up nv and the s-vid output works, I was (typically) misinformed as Jim pointed out a short while ago, my approach to make tv run on the s-vid port was all wrong. sorry about that.. regards kim -- kimc@w8hd.org From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 2 14:21:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA22232 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 14:21:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA22223 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 14:21:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA03287; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 14:19:57 -0800 Message-Id: <199603022219.OAA03287@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Kim Culhan , Jim Lowe , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New meteor driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 02 Mar 1996 11:46:50 PST." <11349.825796010@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 02 Mar 1996 14:19:56 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk The new meteor driver with Jim's vic from his latest m-src.tar works with S-VIDEO over here. Had slight difficulty getting the S-VIDEO stuff to work over here due to the S-VIDEO plug not properly inserted into the Matrox Meteor so please check your connections carefully. I am running -stable . My video camera is a Sony HandyCam video Hi8 model TR100 with S-VIDEO and RCA jacks. Jim, Could it be possible to include the spigot library with your conferencing source distribution either that a compile time option which allows you not to include the spigot grabber and spigot library. Tnks, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 2 16:03:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA26423 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 16:03:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from moonpie.w8hd.org (moonpie.w8hd.org [198.252.159.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA26395 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 16:03:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kimc@localhost) by moonpie.w8hd.org (8.7.4/8.6.12) id TAA02869; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 19:02:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 19:02:47 -0500 (EST) From: Kim Culhan To: "Amancio Hasty Jr." cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New meteor driver In-Reply-To: <199603022219.OAA03287@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 2 Mar 1996, Amancio Hasty Jr. wrote: > The new meteor driver with Jim's vic from his latest m-src.tar works > with S-VIDEO over here. Had slight difficulty getting the S-VIDEO stuff > to work over here due to the S-VIDEO plug not properly inserted into > the Matrox Meteor so please check your connections carefully. Now everything is working here, the s-vid input video quality isn't much different. > I am running -stable . This is on -current. > My video camera is a Sony HandyCam video Hi8 model TR100 with > S-VIDEO and RCA jacks. The camera here is a Panasonic AG-450 with a 150 watt 'Cool-lux' light. This is great, everything now works :) Setting up the compiling environment as Jim's is really made things fall into place, what with the tcl/tk libraries located where they're accessed correctly. Just one little problem, the receive audio is interrupted several times/second for a very short duration. Maybe vat could be run at a higher priority to eliminate this, anyone notice it? kim -- kimc@w8hd.org From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 2 16:24:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA27644 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 16:24:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA27612 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 16:23:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA03885; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 16:23:25 -0800 Message-Id: <199603030023.QAA03885@rah.star-gate.com> To: Kim Culhan cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New meteor driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 02 Mar 1996 19:02:47 EST." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <3882.825812605.1@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Sat, 02 Mar 1996 16:23:25 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>> Kim Culhan said: > Just one little problem, the receive audio is interrupted several > times/second for a very short duration. > > Maybe vat could be run at a higher priority to eliminate this, anyone > notice it? If you are using Jim's vat stuff without vat-hasty-fix(thats the full duplex audio) then you will get slight interruptions since the distrubuted voxware audio module in vat is a half-duplex audio module. Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 2 16:34:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA28045 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 16:34:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from moonpie.w8hd.org (moonpie.w8hd.org [198.252.159.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA28040 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 16:34:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kimc@localhost) by moonpie.w8hd.org (8.7.4/8.6.12) id TAA02935; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 19:34:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 19:34:00 -0500 (EST) From: Kim Culhan To: "Amancio Hasty Jr." cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New meteor driver In-Reply-To: <199603030023.QAA03885@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 2 Mar 1996, Amancio Hasty Jr. wrote: > >>> Kim Culhan said: > > Just one little problem, the receive audio is interrupted several > > times/second for a very short duration. > > > > Maybe vat could be run at a higher priority to eliminate this, anyone > > notice it? > > If you are using Jim's vat stuff without vat-hasty-fix(thats > the full duplex audio) then you will get slight interruptions > since the distrubuted voxware audio module in vat is > a half-duplex audio module. Ok very good, I'll have to switch to that one. The interruptions I'm hearing sound like 'static' not the relatively longer time constant of the 'gating' action built into the half-duplex 'direction changer' which is level dependant. Is that what you were thinking of? Also, at the instant of these fast random pulses I see fast horizontal white glitches in the video at the vu meter bars on vmix. Maybe this is caused by interrupts from updating the video and causing the bus to be unavailable to service the bytes from the GUS and some fall on the floor? kim From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 2 16:47:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA28433 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 16:47:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA28423 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 16:47:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA04046; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 16:47:08 -0800 Message-Id: <199603030047.QAA04046@rah.star-gate.com> To: Kim Culhan cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New meteor driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 02 Mar 1996 19:34:00 EST." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <4043.825814027.1@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Sat, 02 Mar 1996 16:47:08 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk >>> Kim Culhan said: > > > On Sat, 2 Mar 1996, Amancio Hasty Jr. wrote: > > > >>> Kim Culhan said: > > > Just one little problem, the receive audio is interrupted several > > > times/second for a very short duration. > > > > > > Maybe vat could be run at a higher priority to eliminate this, anyone > > > notice it? > > > > If you are using Jim's vat stuff without vat-hasty-fix(thats > > the full duplex audio) then you will get slight interruptions > > since the distrubuted voxware audio module in vat is > > a half-duplex audio module. > > Ok very good, I'll have to switch to that one. > > The interruptions I'm hearing sound like 'static' not the relatively longer > time constant of the 'gating' action built into the half-duplex > 'direction changer' which is level dependant. Is that what you were thinking > of? Well, I think is a lot easier to just built vat with the full duplex audio stuff to find out if it eliminates the problem than to attempt to analyze the source of the problem. Make sure that with the full duplex stuff : 1. you don't use vmix 2. For gus max only and *not* for the GUS PnP, ln -s /dev/audio1 /dev/audio: lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 6 Mar 2 11:14 /dev/audio -> audio1 3. you are using the alpha sound driver from rah. Please let us know if theis fixes your problem Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 2 16:54:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA28714 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 16:54:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from moonpie.w8hd.org (moonpie.w8hd.org [198.252.159.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA28709 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 16:54:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kimc@localhost) by moonpie.w8hd.org (8.7.4/8.6.12) id TAA02973; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 19:53:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 19:53:44 -0500 (EST) From: Kim Culhan To: "Amancio Hasty Jr." cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New meteor driver In-Reply-To: <199603030047.QAA04046@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 2 Mar 1996, Amancio Hasty Jr. wrote: > >>> Kim Culhan said: > > > > > > On Sat, 2 Mar 1996, Amancio Hasty Jr. wrote: > > > > > >>> Kim Culhan said: > > The interruptions I'm hearing sound like 'static' not the relatively longer > > time constant of the 'gating' action built into the half-duplex > > 'direction changer' which is level dependant. Is that what you were thinking > > of? > Well, I think is a lot easier to just built vat with the full duplex audio stuff > to find out if it eliminates the problem than to attempt to analyze the source > of the problem. For sure. > Make sure that with the full duplex stuff : > > 1. you don't use vmix > > 2. For gus max only and *not* for the GUS PnP, ln -s /dev/audio1 /dev/audio: > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 6 Mar 2 11:14 /dev/audio -> audio1 I have obtained a PnP, should I go for it from the start? kim From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Mar 2 17:03:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA29266 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 17:03:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA29259 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 17:03:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA04166; Sat, 2 Mar 1996 17:02:48 -0800 Message-Id: <199603030102.RAA04166@rah.star-gate.com> To: Kim Culhan cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New meteor driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 02 Mar 1996 19:53:44 EST." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <4163.825814967.1@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Sat, 02 Mar 1996 17:02:48 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk Well, stick with the GUS MAX till I get a chance to get home I am at work right now. I will be happy to post the instructions on how to get the GUS PnP working in a couple of hours however not right now 8) Cheers, Amancio >>> Kim Culhan said: > > > On Sat, 2 Mar 1996, Amancio Hasty Jr. wrote: > > > >>> Kim Culhan said: > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2 Mar 1996, Amancio Hasty Jr. wrote: > > > > > > > >>> Kim Culhan said: > > > > The interruptions I'm hearing sound like 'static' not the relatively lo nger > > > time constant of the 'gating' action built into the half-duplex > > > 'direction changer' which is level dependant. Is that what you were thi nking > > > of? > > > Well, I think is a lot easier to just built vat with the full duplex audio s tuff > > to find out if it eliminates the problem than to attempt to analyze the so urce > > of the problem. > > For sure. > > > Make sure that with the full duplex stuff : > > > > 1. you don't use vmix > > > > 2. For gus max only and *not* for the GUS PnP, ln -s /dev/audio1 /dev/audi o: > > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 6 Mar 2 11:14 /dev/audio -> audio1 > > I have obtained a PnP, should I go for it from the start? > > kim >