From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 16 11:08:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA02956 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 11:08:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from covina.lightside.com (covina.lightside.com [207.67.176.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA02933; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 11:08:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by covina.lightside.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0uVMFi-0004KCC; Sun, 16 Jun 96 11:08 PDT Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 11:08:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Jake Hamby To: Amancio Hasty cc: multimedia@freebsd.org, chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Nerd Talk In-Reply-To: <199606150413.VAA00403@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 14 Jun 1996, Amancio Hasty wrote: > Hi, > For starters we don't know yet what are going to be the full specifications > for the new Sony PC. So lets pick that one up after monday when Sony > announces their product and please don't forget that they have their > PlayStation division to tap from for technology. That's true. Although I think if they did integrate anything from the Playstation, they'd need to provide, for example Windows DirectX drivers for it, otherwise I don't think ANY software would support it. > So lets deal with BeBox, whats so great about it in terms of multimedia? The OS has built-in SMP and multithreading, which is very easy to program (the OS itself is C++), allowing you to devote real-time threads to multimedia. Since the base machine has 2 CPU's, this is a big win for multimedia. Also, I expect the BeBox will eventually support one or more of the 3-D video cards entering the market, since it has standard PCI slots and already supports, for example, many S3-based SVGA cards. > Also if you already own a PC , I don't see any reason why you can > outfit your PC with the appropiate gear. S3 Virge (3d engine) , > GUS PnP, matrox meteor or suitable vga plus video capture board-- > I think Matrox has a decent combo vga + video capture. > Tapi devices are starting to rolling so if you shop around you > can probably find a decent Tapi board. My point is that you > can get a fairly decent multimedia PC. Yeah, but you end up spending $1000 or more, on top of the cost of your existing Pentium PC. The reason I'm thinking of buying a BeBox (since I mentioned it, I might as well defend myself :-) is my 486 is about as souped up as I could want. Upgrading to a Pentium would only buy me the ability to run my *existing* software a bit faster. Buying a BeBox would give me enough CPU horsepower for the next few years, combined with a brand-new architecture and brand-new C++-based OS which everyone says is very fun to program (supported by Metrowerks latest compilers). So at first, there won't be many programs, but this just means the market is more open for hobbyists to port over from UNIX and develop their own programs (no pressure from Microsoft). And at developers prices, it will cost $1000 + RAM + video card + keyboard/mouse/floppy/CD-ROM + hard drive + monitor (all standard PC components), so if I scrounge around, it's about $1500 for the whole system (without monitor). > JKH just posted that Intel is selling P200 with their Aurora motherboard > for about $1300 . Now I love to see the price projection for a > dual P200 + motherboard by next christmas 8) Yeah that is pretty impressive. Raw horsepower-wise, the PC is always the best bet. The main idea Be is banking on, that two medium-power CPU's will be cheaper than one high-power CPU (and that up to 8 high-power CPU's will be almost 8 times as fast as the top-of-the-line for power-users), applies to the Pentium and P6, but only if the OS supports it. And as of now, there is no "consumer-grade" OS to support dual-Pentiums, so the prices remained (until now) in the high-end server price range. Since FreeBSD supports SMP, that is too cool! Still, I like the idea of dual PowerPC's for $1000, and a brand-new OS, and I don't need to justify myself, after all I can say I saved $1000 by buying a BeBox and NOT buying the Amiga 4000 when it was re-released in 1995 ($2700 and that was only a 25MHz 68040!!) :-) :-) ---Jake the former Amiga fanatic :-) > Regards, > Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 18 23:17:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA16280 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 23:17:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au (pp@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au [130.102.2.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA16275 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 23:17:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au by bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au id <01173-0@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au>; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 16:00:04 +1000 Received: from netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au by pandora.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.10/DEVETIR-E0.3a) with ESMTP id PAA19782 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 15:34:39 +1000 Received: from localhost by netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au (8.6.8.1/DEVETIR-0.1) id FAA00968 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 05:36:25 GMT Message-Id: <199606190536.FAA00968@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: The TASD drivers for -current - done yet? X-Face: 3}heU+2?b->-GSF-G4T4>jEB9~FR(V9lo&o>kAy=Pj&;oVOc<|pr%I/VSG"ZD32J>5gGC0N 7gj]^GI@M:LlqNd]|(2OxOxy@$6@/!,";-!OlucF^=jq8s57$%qXd/ieC8DhWmIy@J1AcnvSGV\|*! >Bvu7+0h4zCY^]{AxXKsDTlgA2m]fX$W@'8ev-Qi+-;%L'CcZ'NBL!@n?}q!M&Em3*eW7,093nOeV8 M)(u+6D;%B7j\XA/9j4!Gj~&jYzflG[#)E9sI&Xe9~y~Gn%fA7>F:YKr"Wx4cZU*6{^2ocZ!YyR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 15:36:23 +1000 From: Stephen Hocking Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk MNow that a certain game that uses some of the more advanced features (like mmaping the soundcards DMA buffer into user memory is just about out, when can we see the new sound code commited? Stephen -- The views expressed above are not those of the Worker's Compensation Board of Queensland, Australia. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jun 19 00:26:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA19180 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 00:26:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA19173 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 00:25:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA02321; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 00:24:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606190724.AAA02321@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: Stephen Hocking cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The TASD drivers for -current - done yet? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 Jun 1996 15:36:23 +1000." <199606190536.FAA00968@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 00:24:12 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sujal Patel is working on the next release of the sound driver. Me, I am just enjoying my system 8) Amancio >From The Desk Of Stephen Hocking : > MNow that a certain game that uses some of the more advanced features (like > mmaping the soundcards DMA buffer into user memory is just about out, when ca n > we see the new sound code commited? > > > Stephen > -- > The views expressed above are not those of the Worker's Compensation Board of > Queensland, Australia. > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jun 19 02:20:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA28656 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 02:20:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA28647 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 02:20:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.v-site.net [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA02969 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 02:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606190920.CAA02969@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Mbone Channel (CSpace) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 02:20:37 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am watching a sunrise on the mbone . The only problem is that the camera is aimed straight at the sun . I wonder how long that camera is going to last. Also, someone starting broadcasting with a Dec Alpha "Berkeley Hills" I know is not a camera but I am sure that there was some concrete on the scene.. At any rate, I think that Parking Lot Cams like on the FreeBSD Lounge are becoming popular 8) Enjoy, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jun 19 07:10:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA15191 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 07:10:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.rwth-aachen.de (mail.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA15185 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 07:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de) by mail.rwth-aachen.de (PMDF V5.0-4 #13110) id <01I63EHRJPNK002PRA@mail.rwth-aachen.de> for multimedia@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:16:34 +0100 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA13545 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:16:16 +0200 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:16:16 +0200 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Subject: vic (sgi) problem To: multimedia@freebsd.org Message-id: <199606191116.NAA13545@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone have an idea what it means when I get "No Network Sources" (from vic v2.61 on an SGI) in the vic window, where normally "waiting for video" appears? This happens in the window I fired up with a distinct vic /port command from the command line. (didn't try with sd or sdr). The other end is my FreeBSD machine and it appears in the vic window titled with the address of my FreeBSD machine. --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jun 19 21:42:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA16900 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 21:42:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xi.dorm.umd.edu (root@morrison-c31.aa.net [204.157.220.163]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA16895 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 21:42:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (smpatel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xi.dorm.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA01371; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 21:42:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 21:42:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Sujal Patel X-Sender: smpatel@xi.dorm.umd.edu To: Stephen Hocking cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: The TASD drivers for -current - done yet? In-Reply-To: <199606190536.FAA00968@netfl15a.devetir.qld.gov.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, Stephen Hocking wrote: > MNow that a certain game that uses some of the more advanced features (like > mmaping the soundcards DMA buffer into user memory is just about out, when can > we see the new sound code commited? Finishing this pretty high on my priority list. Unfortuantely, work is keeping me VERY busy right now. I encourge you to use Amancio's stuff on his FTP site in the meantime :-) PS: We have decided [I think] to import USS-Lite instead of TASD. Sujal From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jun 22 00:34:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-multimedia Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA09237 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 00:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts7-line14.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.61]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA09230 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 00:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA01003; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 00:34:44 -0700 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 00:34:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Christoph P. Kukulies" cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vic (sgi) problem In-Reply-To: <199606191116.NAA13545@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, Christoph P. Kukulies wrote: > Does anyone have an idea what it means when I get > > > "No Network Sources" > > > (from vic v2.61 on an SGI) in the vic window, where normally > "waiting for video" appears? This happens in the window I > fired up with a distinct vic /port command from the command line. Because 2.6 is seriously outdated. You can't watch anything with it. Upgrade to 2.7b?, as high as you can go. > (didn't try with sd or sdr). The other end is my FreeBSD machine > and it appears in the vic window titled with the address of my > FreeBSD machine. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major