From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Dec 29 00:12:52 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id AAA19029 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 00:12:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id AAA19024 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 00:12:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id IAA25507; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 08:34:08 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199612290734.IAA25507@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Anyone knows this card ? To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 08:34:08 +0100 (MET) Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199612282112.NAA00446@rah.star-gate.com> from "Amancio Hasty" at Dec 28, 96 01:12:14 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Cause we are a multimedia group here are a couple of snapshots of the > Intel board 8) does it have any form of audio output ? (I guess not, but just asking because the hauppauge has analog audio output, I guess straight from the tuner) Luigi From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Dec 29 00:15:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id AAA19215 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 00:15:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id AAA19210 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 00:15:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id IAA25526; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 08:37:13 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199612290737.IAA25526@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Anyone knows this card ? To: ulf@Lamb.net (Ulf Zimmermann) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 08:37:12 +0100 (MET) Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19961228130712.0076ee94@Gatekeeper-3.Lamb.net> from "Ulf Zimmermann" at Dec 28, 96 01:07:06 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >(this is the model which does not support an optional MPEG board, the > >picture is at http://www.hauppauge.com/hcw/html/wc_data.htm#Overview) > > > >Anyone knows something about this board ? > That board is based on a chipset from Chips&Technology with additional hmmm, I believe you are referring to a different model. The one I saw has for sure a Bt848 which is from Brooktree. > chips from Phillips connected with a I2C bus. I once programmed stuff for > boards like these. Wrote for example a software decoder for the Videotext. > The last revision of the boards I know, didn't worked good with digital > mix, as it didn't had fast enough ADC stuff for this. Because of this most > boards are done with an analog mixing, which results in a bad quality. what are digital and analog mix for ? Luigi From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Dec 29 00:17:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id AAA19301 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 00:17:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from DNS.Lamb.net (root@DNS.Lamb.net [207.90.181.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id AAA19296 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 00:17:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from PacBell.TelcoSucks.org (ulf@msn-30.hl-1.msn.eunet.de [194.175.90.30]) by DNS.Lamb.net (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id AAA19921; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 00:23:39 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961229001801.00698a00@Gatekeeper-3.Lamb.net> X-Sender: ulf@Gatekeeper-3.Lamb.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 Demo (32) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 00:18:17 -0800 To: Luigi Rizzo , multimedia@freebsd.org From: Ulf Zimmermann Subject: Re: Anyone knows this card ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just took the time and looked at the website from Hauppauge. This are certainly not the cards anymore I worked, so I said is not valid ;-| Ulf. At 01:07 PM 12/28/96 -0800, Ulf Zimmermann wrote: >At 08:39 PM 12/28/96 +0100, Luigi Rizzo wrote: >>Hi, >> >>today at a localstore I found a PCI frame grabber based (from the >>picture on the box) on the Bt848. The board is called WinTV/PC >>model 406 from Hauppauge and seems to have info available on the >>net at >> >> http://www.hauppauge.com/hcw/index.htm >> >>(this is the model which does not support an optional MPEG board, the >>picture is at http://www.hauppauge.com/hcw/html/wc_data.htm#Overview) >> >>Anyone knows something about this board ? >> >>For the records, the board, with a built-in tuner and teletext >>decoder -- unless it is decoded in software! -- is sold for Itl. >>403.000 incl.VAT. -- approx US$250; on the same shelf there is a >>Snappy for approx US$330, so I think it might be found a bit cheaper >>than this. > >That board is based on a chipset from Chips&Technology with additional >chips from Phillips connected with a I2C bus. I once programmed stuff for >boards like these. Wrote for example a software decoder for the Videotext. >The last revision of the boards I know, didn't worked good with digital >mix, as it didn't had fast enough ADC stuff for this. Because of this most >boards are done with an analog mixing, which results in a bad quality. > >> >>Amancio, any resemblance with the Intel board you have ? >> >> Luigi >>-----------------------------+-------------------------------------- >>Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione >>email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa >>tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) >>fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ >>_____________________________|______________________________________ >> > >Ulf. > >----------------------------------------------------------- >Alameda Networks, Inc. | Ulf Zimmermann (ulf@Alameda.net) >1525 Pacific Avenue | Phone: (510)769-2936 >Alameda, CA 94501 | Fax : (510)521-5073 > > ----------------------------------------------------------- Alameda Networks, Inc. | Ulf Zimmermann (ulf@Alameda.net) 1525 Pacific Avenue | Phone: (510)769-2936 Alameda, CA 94501 | Fax : (510)521-5073 From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Dec 29 00:42:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id AAA19952 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 00:42:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mickey.umiacs.umd.edu (12222@mickey.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id AAA19947 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 00:42:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (smpatel@localhost) by mickey.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.4/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id DAA01130; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 03:42:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 03:42:02 -0500 (EST) From: Sujal Patel To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Sound Blaster PnP babble In-Reply-To: <1767.851844446@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 28 Dec 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > :-) > > BTW, any luck with Sound Blaster PnP lately? We've had a lot of people > asking about it.. The card should work just fine. There are several things to note though: 1 - If you have a PnP bios, you don't need to use my PnP driver. If you don't use the driver though, you need to "guess" where the BIOS configured your card :-) There is sample code to read the PnP BIOS's configuration in ~smpatel/public_html/pnpget* (I haven't had time to clean this up yet). 2 - If you don't have a PnP bios then you can just use my driver and everything will just work fine. 3 - If you have an ASUS motherboard, your BIOS must be up-to-date (i.e. support the latest PnP spec). You can easily grab a new BIOS from their site and flash it. Sujal PS: The PnP driver is available at http://www.freebsd.org/~smpatel/ From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Dec 29 01:10:52 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id BAA20503 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 01:10:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id BAA20498 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 01:10:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.4/8.6.9) with ESMTP id BAA02036; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 01:10:44 -0800 (PST) To: Sujal Patel cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sound Blaster PnP babble In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 29 Dec 1996 03:42:02 EST." Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 01:10:44 -0800 Message-ID: <2032.851850644@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > 1 - If you have a PnP bios, you don't need to use my PnP driver. If you Hmm, this appears to not be the case for most folks. :-( > 2 - If you don't have a PnP bios then you can just use my driver and > everything will just work fine. Hmm, this appears to not be the case for most folks. :-) Essentially, I don't know of anyone who has managed to get a PnP SB card to work with FreeBSD - not a single one. Anyone out there besides Sujal care to chime in with a success story to offset this rather unfortunate statistic? :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Dec 29 01:13:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id BAA20558 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 01:13:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com ([204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id BAA20552 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 01:13:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA04859; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 01:12:40 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199612290912.BAA04859@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Luigi Rizzo cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone knows this card ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 29 Dec 1996 08:34:08 +0100." <199612290734.IAA25507@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 01:12:40 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk No output just straight video dma to host. Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Luigi Rizzo : > > Cause we are a multimedia group here are a couple of snapshots of the > > Intel board 8) > > does it have any form of audio output ? (I guess not, but just asking > because the hauppauge has analog audio output, I guess straight from > the tuner) > > Luigi From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Dec 29 01:17:07 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id BAA20674 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 01:17:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com ([204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id BAA20669 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 01:17:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA04881; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 01:16:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199612290916.BAA04881@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Ulf Zimmermann cc: Luigi Rizzo , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone knows this card ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 29 Dec 1996 00:18:17 PST." <3.0.32.19961229001801.00698a00@Gatekeeper-3.Lamb.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 01:16:23 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Actually, it does have two Philip chipsets --- got no idea what they are doing there. Coming to thing about it the philip chips are probably for audio or video out. Hmmm... Now , I am a bit curious . If anyone gets hold of the Philip parts numbers please let me know. Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Ulf Zimmermann : > I just took the time and looked at the website from Hauppauge. This are > certainly not the cards anymore I worked, so I said is not valid ;-| > > Ulf. > > At 01:07 PM 12/28/96 -0800, Ulf Zimmermann wrote: > >At 08:39 PM 12/28/96 +0100, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > >>Hi, > >> > >>today at a localstore I found a PCI frame grabber based (from the > >>picture on the box) on the Bt848. The board is called WinTV/PC > >>model 406 from Hauppauge and seems to have info available on the > >>net at > >> > >> http://www.hauppauge.com/hcw/index.htm > >> > >>(this is the model which does not support an optional MPEG board, the > >>picture is at http://www.hauppauge.com/hcw/html/wc_data.htm#Overview) > >> > >>Anyone knows something about this board ? > >> > >>For the records, the board, with a built-in tuner and teletext > >>decoder -- unless it is decoded in software! -- is sold for Itl. > >>403.000 incl.VAT. -- approx US$250; on the same shelf there is a > >>Snappy for approx US$330, so I think it might be found a bit cheaper > >>than this. > > > >That board is based on a chipset from Chips&Technology with additional > >chips from Phillips connected with a I2C bus. I once programmed stuff for > >boards like these. Wrote for example a software decoder for the Videotext. > >The last revision of the boards I know, didn't worked good with digital > >mix, as it didn't had fast enough ADC stuff for this. Because of this most > >boards are done with an analog mixing, which results in a bad quality. > > > >> > >>Amancio, any resemblance with the Intel board you have ? > >> > >> Luigi > >>-----------------------------+-------------------------------------- > >>Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione > >>email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa > >>tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) > >>fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ > >>_____________________________|______________________________________ > >> > > > >Ulf. > > > >----------------------------------------------------------- > >Alameda Networks, Inc. | Ulf Zimmermann (ulf@Alameda.net) > >1525 Pacific Avenue | Phone: (510)769-2936 > >Alameda, CA 94501 | Fax : (510)521-5073 > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Alameda Networks, Inc. | Ulf Zimmermann (ulf@Alameda.net) > 1525 Pacific Avenue | Phone: (510)769-2936 > Alameda, CA 94501 | Fax : (510)521-5073 From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Dec 29 01:31:38 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id BAA21156 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 01:31:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from mickey.umiacs.umd.edu (12222@mickey.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id BAA21147 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 01:31:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (smpatel@localhost) by mickey.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.4/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id EAA01742; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 04:31:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 04:31:28 -0500 (EST) From: Sujal Patel To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sound Blaster PnP babble In-Reply-To: <2032.851850644@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 29 Dec 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > 1 - If you have a PnP bios, you don't need to use my PnP driver. If you > > Hmm, this appears to not be the case for most folks. :-( Well it's not easy to actually guess where the PnP card is, so that is probably most people's problem. This is actually a problem that could be solved by just reading the current configuration of a PnP card on bootup. > Essentially, I don't know of anyone who has managed to get a PnP SB > card to work with FreeBSD - not a single one. Anyone out there > besides Sujal care to chime in with a success story to offset this > rather unfortunate statistic? :-) Well I've got about 1/2 dozen SB 16 PnP's working here :-) Seriously, I know that there are at least a handful of people on the net, who have this working. I'd love to hear from someone who hasn't yet gotten their card working (and make sure I'm on the To: line of your e-mail so that I see it before the year 2000 :-) Sujal From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Dec 29 01:53:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id BAA21731 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 01:53:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com ([204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id BAA21726 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 01:53:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA05133; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 01:52:53 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199612290952.BAA05133@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Sujal Patel cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sound Blaster PnP babble In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 29 Dec 1996 03:42:02 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 01:52:53 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Sujal Patel : > On Sat, 28 Dec 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > :-) > > > > BTW, any luck with Sound Blaster PnP lately? We've had a lot of people > > asking about it.. > > The card should work just fine. There are several things to note though: > > 1 - If you have a PnP bios, you don't need to use my PnP driver. If you > don't use the driver though, you need to "guess" where the BIOS configured > your card :-) There is sample code to read the PnP BIOS's configuration > in ~smpatel/public_html/pnpget* (I haven't had time to clean this up yet). I thought that the PnP bios does not activate ISA PnP cards. It does assigned them a CSN and appropiate resources however the devices will remain inactive till the OS or program activates them. At any rate, there are enough bogus PnP bioses floating around that the safest bet is to depend on the driver for proper PnP initialization and activation. In fact one of the buggy PnP Bios force me to write the PnP code in the GUS PnP driver. As for most people not being able to configure the SB PnP , is probably to hard form them. I am saying this from my past experience in dealing with the config issues in the sound driver. Regards, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Dec 29 02:46:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id CAA22659 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 02:46:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from DNS.Lamb.net (root@DNS.Lamb.net [207.90.181.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id CAA22654 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 02:46:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from PacBell.TelcoSucks.org (fu126.congress.ccc.de [194.221.29.126]) by DNS.Lamb.net (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id CAA20247; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 02:53:28 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961229022834.00733f80@Gatekeeper-3.Lamb.net> X-Sender: ulf@Gatekeeper-3.Lamb.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 Demo (32) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 02:48:04 -0800 To: Luigi Rizzo , ulf@Lamb.net (Ulf Zimmermann) From: Ulf Zimmermann Subject: Re: Anyone knows this card ? Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 08:37 AM 12/29/96 +0100, Luigi Rizzo wrote: >> >(this is the model which does not support an optional MPEG board, the >> >picture is at http://www.hauppauge.com/hcw/html/wc_data.htm#Overview) >> > >> >Anyone knows something about this board ? > >> That board is based on a chipset from Chips&Technology with additional > >hmmm, I believe you are referring to a different model. The one I saw >has for sure a Bt848 which is from Brooktree. Yep. My problem was that Hauppauge the name WinTV/pc already used before for the card I described. > >> chips from Phillips connected with a I2C bus. I once programmed stuff for >> boards like these. Wrote for example a software decoder for the Videotext. >> The last revision of the boards I know, didn't worked good with digital >> mix, as it didn't had fast enough ADC stuff for this. Because of this most >> boards are done with an analog mixing, which results in a bad quality. > >what are digital and analog mix for ? Digital goes over the VGA Vesa Feature connector. You get much better picture, but you need very speedy chips for it. While the analog mixing Hauppauge is using, has a cable from the VGA card to Hauppauge card, it mixes the VGA and the TV picture (inserts it into the VGA picture) and gives it out via the second connector on the Hauppauge card. > > Luigi > Ulf. ----------------------------------------------------------- Alameda Networks, Inc. | Ulf Zimmermann (ulf@Alameda.net) 1525 Pacific Avenue | Phone: (510)769-2936 Alameda, CA 94501 | Fax : (510)521-5073 From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Dec 29 02:47:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id CAA22682 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 02:47:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from DNS.Lamb.net (root@DNS.Lamb.net [207.90.181.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id CAA22677 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 02:47:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from PacBell.TelcoSucks.org (fu126.congress.ccc.de [194.221.29.126]) by DNS.Lamb.net (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id CAA20249; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 02:53:31 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19961229024636.00736b88@Gatekeeper-3.Lamb.net> X-Sender: ulf@Gatekeeper-3.Lamb.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 Demo (32) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 02:48:08 -0800 To: Amancio Hasty , Ulf Zimmermann From: Ulf Zimmermann Subject: Re: Anyone knows this card ? Cc: Luigi Rizzo , multimedia@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk If the card uses YUV 4:1:1 or YUV 4:2:2 the Phillips chip pair should be the somethng like 7911 and 7912, at least as far I remember it and it could also be the old pair, used as I described it in my earlier emails. I can look the stuff up, some friends of mine build their own card. They still build MPEG stuff now, for gas station monitoring for example. Ulf. At 01:16 AM 12/29/96 -0800, Amancio Hasty wrote: > >Actually, it does have two Philip chipsets --- got no idea what they are >doing there. Coming to thing about it the philip chips are probably >for audio or video out. Hmmm... Now , I am a bit curious . If anyone >gets hold of the Philip parts numbers please let me know. > > > Cheers, > Amancio > >>From The Desk Of Ulf Zimmermann : >> I just took the time and looked at the website from Hauppauge. This are >> certainly not the cards anymore I worked, so I said is not valid ;-| >> >> Ulf. >> >> At 01:07 PM 12/28/96 -0800, Ulf Zimmermann wrote: >> >At 08:39 PM 12/28/96 +0100, Luigi Rizzo wrote: >> >>Hi, >> >> >> >>today at a localstore I found a PCI frame grabber based (from the >> >>picture on the box) on the Bt848. The board is called WinTV/PC >> >>model 406 from Hauppauge and seems to have info available on the >> >>net at >> >> >> >> http://www.hauppauge.com/hcw/index.htm >> >> >> >>(this is the model which does not support an optional MPEG board, the >> >>picture is at http://www.hauppauge.com/hcw/html/wc_data.htm#Overview) >> >> >> >>Anyone knows something about this board ? >> >> >> >>For the records, the board, with a built-in tuner and teletext >> >>decoder -- unless it is decoded in software! -- is sold for Itl. >> >>403.000 incl.VAT. -- approx US$250; on the same shelf there is a >> >>Snappy for approx US$330, so I think it might be found a bit cheaper >> >>than this. >> > >> >That board is based on a chipset from Chips&Technology with additional >> >chips from Phillips connected with a I2C bus. I once programmed stuff for >> >boards like these. Wrote for example a software decoder for the Videotext. >> >The last revision of the boards I know, didn't worked good with digital >> >mix, as it didn't had fast enough ADC stuff for this. Because of this most >> >boards are done with an analog mixing, which results in a bad quality. >> > >> >> >> >>Amancio, any resemblance with the Intel board you have ? >> >> >> >> Luigi >> >>-----------------------------+-------------------------------------- >> >>Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione >> >>email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa >> >>tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) >> >>fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ >> >>_____________________________|______________________________________ >> >> >> > >> >Ulf. >> > >> >----------------------------------------------------------- >> >Alameda Networks, Inc. | Ulf Zimmermann (ulf@Alameda.net) >> >1525 Pacific Avenue | Phone: (510)769-2936 >> >Alameda, CA 94501 | Fax : (510)521-5073 >> > >> > >> ----------------------------------------------------------- >> Alameda Networks, Inc. | Ulf Zimmermann (ulf@Alameda.net) >> 1525 Pacific Avenue | Phone: (510)769-2936 >> Alameda, CA 94501 | Fax : (510)521-5073 > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- Alameda Networks, Inc. | Ulf Zimmermann (ulf@Alameda.net) 1525 Pacific Avenue | Phone: (510)769-2936 Alameda, CA 94501 | Fax : (510)521-5073 From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Dec 29 03:22:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id DAA25771 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 03:22:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from hda.hda.com (ip28-max1-fitch.ziplink.net [199.232.245.28]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id DAA25766 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 03:22:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.hda.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id GAA15623; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 06:17:06 -0500 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199612291117.GAA15623@hda.hda.com> Subject: Re: Anyone knows this card ? In-Reply-To: <199612282112.NAA00446@rah.star-gate.com> from Amancio Hasty at "Dec 28, 96 01:12:33 pm" To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 06:17:05 -0500 (EST) Cc: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it, multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Hi, > > The board is for sure a Bt848 based one. In order to interface to the > tuner it has to use the I2c and GPI interface for which I have > not written any code for . I have generic I2C code I can probably BSD-release if you need it. -- Peter Dufault (dufault@hda.com) Realtime Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Dec 29 03:45:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id DAA26255 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 03:45:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com ([204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id DAA26249 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 03:45:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA06226; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 03:44:19 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199612291144.DAA06226@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Peter Dufault cc: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone knows this card ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 29 Dec 1996 06:17:05 EST." <199612291117.GAA15623@hda.hda.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 03:44:19 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Cool, I will keep this in mind 8) Tnks! Amancio >From The Desk Of Peter Dufault : > > > > Hi, > > > > The board is for sure a Bt848 based one. In order to interface to the > > tuner it has to use the I2c and GPI interface for which I have > > not written any code for . > > I have generic I2C code I can probably BSD-release if you need it. > > -- > Peter Dufault (dufault@hda.com) Realtime Machine Control and Simulation > HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Dec 29 04:25:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id EAA28060 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 04:25:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from zed.ludd.luth.se (zed.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id EAA28055 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 04:25:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from father.ludd.luth.se (father.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.18]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id NAA19887; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 13:25:07 +0100 Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 13:25:06 +0100 (MET) From: Johan Larsson Reply-To: Johan Larsson To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Sujal Patel , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sound Blaster PnP babble In-Reply-To: <2032.851850644@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 29 Dec 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > Hmm, this appears to not be the case for most folks. :-) > > Essentially, I don't know of anyone who has managed to get a PnP SB > card to work with FreeBSD - not a single one. Anyone out there > besides Sujal care to chime in with a success story to offset this > rather unfortunate statistic? :-) > > Jordan Well i got my SB16 PnP card to work right the first time i installed the driver. And so did my friend. And i am very pleased with the driver. :-) Thanks Sujal. I don't have a PnP BIOS. Maybe the configuration could be a little easier, but the "howto" was very good, so it was hard not to do right :) Johan _ /_ /_ _ _ * mailto:gozer@ludd.luth.se * / _ _ _ __ _ (_//_// //_|/ / * http://www.ludd.luth.se/users/gozer * /_,/_|/_\_\/_// / From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Dec 29 04:40:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id EAA29032 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 04:40:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id EAA29027 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 04:40:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id NAA25833; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 13:02:09 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199612291202.NAA25833@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Anyone knows this card ? To: dufault@hda.com (Peter Dufault) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 13:02:09 +0100 (MET) Cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199612291117.GAA15623@hda.hda.com> from "Peter Dufault" at Dec 29, 96 06:16:46 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > The board is for sure a Bt848 based one. In order to interface to the > > tuner it has to use the I2c and GPI interface for which I have > > not written any code for . > > I have generic I2C code I can probably BSD-release if you need it. That code would be quite useful, many devices use I2C. Luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Dec 29 04:50:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id EAA29195 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 04:50:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id EAA29190 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 04:50:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id NAA25849; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 13:12:17 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199612291212.NAA25849@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Sound Blaster PnP babble To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 13:12:17 +0100 (MET) Cc: smpatel@umiacs.umd.edu, jkh@time.cdrom.com, multimedia@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199612290952.BAA05133@rah.star-gate.com> from "Amancio Hasty" at Dec 29, 96 01:52:34 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >From The Desk Of Sujal Patel : > > On Sat, 28 Dec 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > > :-) > > > > > > BTW, any luck with Sound Blaster PnP lately? We've had a lot of people > > > asking about it.. > > > > The card should work just fine. There are several things to note though: > > > > 1 - If you have a PnP bios, you don't need to use my PnP driver. If you > > don't use the driver though, you need to "guess" where the BIOS configured > > your card :-) There is sample code to read the PnP BIOS's configuration > > in ~smpatel/public_html/pnpget* (I haven't had time to clean this up yet). > > I thought that the PnP bios does not activate ISA PnP cards. It does > assigned them a CSN and appropiate resources however the devices will > remain inactive till the OS or program activates them. At any rate, I am not sure about the details. For instance my board is recognised at bootup, but as you try to use /dev/audio the process blocks -- probably because of incorrect DMA/IRQ configuration. The parameters in the kernel match those shown by "pnpinfo" though. > there are enough bogus PnP bioses floating around that the safest > bet is to depend on the driver for proper PnP initialization and > activation. In fact one of the buggy PnP Bios force me to write > the PnP code in the GUS PnP driver. And some boards report strange info as well. Mine gives the following output from "pnpinfo" (slightly reformatted): I/O Range 0x534 .. 0x534, alignment 0x4, len 0x4 [not 16-bit addr] where the "[not 16-bit addr]" means, according to the PnP specs, that only A9..A0 are decoded (and these cannot possibly represent 0x534!) Luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Dec 29 06:39:52 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id GAA01475 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 06:39:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id GAA01470 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 06:39:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.4/8.6.9) with ESMTP id GAA02878; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 06:39:42 -0800 (PST) To: Johan Larsson cc: Sujal Patel , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sound Blaster PnP babble In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 29 Dec 1996 13:25:06 +0100." Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 06:39:42 -0800 Message-ID: <2874.851870382@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Well i got my SB16 PnP card to work right the first time i installed the Hmmm, so maybe the SB16s work. The only card I've personal experience with is the AWE32 PnP, and that seems to be something rather more difficult. The people doing the most yelling seem to be AWE32 and AWE64 owners, now that I think of it. ;-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Dec 29 09:27:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id JAA05739 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 09:27:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from plains.nodak.edu (tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu [134.129.111.64]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA05734 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 09:27:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by plains.nodak.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id LAA08253; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 11:27:19 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 11:27:19 -0600 (CST) From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <199612291727.LAA08253@plains.nodak.edu> To: dufault@hda.com, hasty@rah.star-gate.com Subject: Re: Anyone knows this card ? Cc: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it, multimedia@freebsd.org Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk the meteor driver also has I2C code in it. --mark. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Dec 29 12:19:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA10414 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 12:19:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from crh.cl.msu.edu (crh.cl.msu.edu [35.8.1.24]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id MAA10409 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 12:19:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from henrich@localhost) by crh.cl.msu.edu (8.8.2/8.8.2) id PAA05667; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 15:19:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 15:19:24 -0500 (EST) From: Charles Henrich Message-Id: <199612292019.PAA05667@crh.cl.msu.edu> To: jkh@time.cdrom.com, freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sound Blaster PnP babble Newsgroups: lists.freebsd.multimedia References: <5a67hc$18l0@msunews.cl.msu.edu> X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #1 (NOV) Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In lists.freebsd.multimedia you write: >> 1 - If you have a PnP bios, you don't need to use my PnP driver. If you >Hmm, this appears to not be the case for most folks. :-( >> 2 - If you don't have a PnP bios then you can just use my driver and >> everything will just work fine. >Hmm, this appears to not be the case for most folks. :-) >Essentially, I don't know of anyone who has managed to get a PnP SB >card to work with FreeBSD - not a single one. Anyone out there >besides Sujal care to chime in with a success story to offset this >rather unfortunate statistic? :-) I have, one in a 486, one integrated into a motherboard. The trick is to tell the BIOS not to do PNP (if you can), the card then generally places itself at the default location (IRQ 5). Tweaking the BIOS settings for PNP tend to make the world of difference.. -Crh -- Charles Henrich Michigan State University henrich@msu.edu http://pilot.msu.edu/~henrich From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Dec 29 13:08:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA12286 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 13:08:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA12281 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 13:08:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id VAA26149; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 21:30:05 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199612292030.VAA26149@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Anyone knows this card ? To: tinguely@plains.nodak.edu (Mark Tinguely) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 21:30:04 +0100 (MET) Cc: dufault@hda.com, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199612291727.LAA08253@plains.nodak.edu> from "Mark Tinguely" at Dec 29, 96 11:27:00 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > the meteor driver also has I2C code in it. yes but the meteor has a true I2C interface, whereas some boards need to implement I2C almost completely in software by bit banging. Luigi From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Dec 29 14:25:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA14892 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 14:25:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from hda.hda.com (ip68-max1-fitch.ziplink.net [199.232.245.68]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA14887 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 14:25:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.hda.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA16339; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 17:20:42 -0500 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199612292220.RAA16339@hda.hda.com> Subject: Re: Anyone knows this card ? In-Reply-To: <199612292030.VAA26149@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> from Luigi Rizzo at "Dec 29, 96 09:30:04 pm" To: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it (Luigi Rizzo) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 17:20:41 -0500 (EST) Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > the meteor driver also has I2C code in it. > > yes but the meteor has a true I2C interface, whereas some boards > need to implement I2C almost completely in software by bit banging. Which is what I have. If someone wants to use it ask and I'll get it released and send it to that person. (Luigi?) -- Peter Dufault (dufault@hda.com) Realtime Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Dec 29 15:23:54 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA17073 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 15:23:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts15-line8.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id PAA17068 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 15:23:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.2/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA00412; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 15:21:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 15:21:04 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Tomi Vainio cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PAS16 playback In-Reply-To: <199612290238.EAA07750@zeta.fidata.fi> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 29 Dec 1996, Tomi Vainio wrote: > I have this same problem with two machines. Both machines are pentium > systems running FreeBSD 2.1.6.1. Sound cards are PAS16 and PAS16D. I > have tested systems with Realaudio 3.0 and cdd 1.0 pcmplay. Realaudio > welcome.ra should last 12 seconds but it takes only 4 to play it. CD > images recorded with cdd also plays to quick but under W95 Cool Edit > these work fine. Make sure your interrupts are correct. This sounds like a misconfigured card. > Card config: > ProAudioSpectrum at 0x388 irq 10 drq 5 > SoundBlaster at 0x220 irq 7 drq 1 > OPL-2/OPL-3 FM at 0x388 irq 65535 drq 4294967295 Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Dec 29 15:32:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA17491 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 15:32:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts15-line8.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id PAA17486 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 15:32:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.2/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA00438; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 15:31:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 15:31:36 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Stan Brown cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recoendations for Sound card under FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <199612281632.LAA26794@netcom2.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 28 Dec 1996, Stan Brown wrote: > I am fixing to buy a sound card for my FreebSD machine. Has anyone got > any recomedations for cards with good support, and godd functionality > under FreeBSD ? Moving to freebsd-multimedia. I have a Gravis Ultrasound Plug & Play that I like quite a bit. It won't coexist with an SB AWE32, but the audio from it is unparalleled. Especially if you plan on doing any mbone / audio conferencing work. > I geuass I would alos like to hear the horrror stories also to now what > to avoid. If you're not doing mbone, then even a SB will work. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Dec 29 16:34:42 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA21779 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 16:34:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from server3.syd.mail.ozemail.net (server3.syd.mail.ozemail.net [203.108.7.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id QAA21774 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 16:34:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from oznet02.ozemail.com.au (oznet02.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.124]) by server3.syd.mail.ozemail.net (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA29281; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 11:33:36 +1100 (EST) Received: from ibm.ibm.net (slsyd3p40.ozemail.com.au [203.7.189.128]) by oznet02.ozemail.com.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA21152; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 11:32:05 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19961230003258.006fd6ac@mail.ozemail.com.au> X-Sender: nrepin@mail.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 11:32:58 +1100 To: Amancio Hasty From: Nick Repin Subject: Re: Anyone knows this card ? Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 01:16 AM 29/12/96 -0800, you wrote: > >Actually, it does have two Philip chipsets --- got no idea what they are >doing there. Coming to thing about it the philip chips are probably >for audio or video out. Hmmm... Now , I am a bit curious . If anyone >gets hold of the Philip parts numbers please let me know. > > > Cheers, > Amancio > If you want to search Philips part numbers and/or retrieve data sheets try: http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/philips5.html Regards, -Nick --- Nick Repin [Daraga/Digiteyes] GSM:+61 419 259780, Fax:+61 2 9427 9028 http://www.digiteyes.com.au From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Dec 29 18:07:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id SAA25128 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 18:07:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com ([204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id SAA25120 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 18:07:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA10536; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 18:07:21 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199612300207.SAA10536@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Nick Repin cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anyone knows this card ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 30 Dec 1996 11:32:58 +1100." <2.2.32.19961230003258.006fd6ac@mail.ozemail.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 18:07:21 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Tnks! Amancio >From The Desk Of Nick Repin : > At 01:16 AM 29/12/96 -0800, you wrote: > > > >Actually, it does have two Philip chipsets --- got no idea what they are > >doing there. Coming to thing about it the philip chips are probably > >for audio or video out. Hmmm... Now , I am a bit curious . If anyone > >gets hold of the Philip parts numbers please let me know. > > > > > > Cheers, > > Amancio > > > > If you want to search Philips part numbers and/or retrieve data sheets try: > > http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/philips5.html > > Regards, > -Nick > --- > Nick Repin [Daraga/Digiteyes] > GSM:+61 419 259780, Fax:+61 2 9427 9028 > http://www.digiteyes.com.au > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Dec 29 18:17:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id SAA25441 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 18:17:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com ([204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id SAA25436 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 18:17:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA10622 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 18:16:52 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199612300216.SAA10622@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Next Generation "Tv" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 18:16:52 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Here is a great opportunity to contribute 8) Requirements: Support for the following : o color depths: 8, 15, 16, 32 o brightness o hue o contrast o scaling (ability to grab a window and stretch it) o direct output to vga frame buffer o real time transforms ala metgrab The latest version of "tv" is at : rah.star-gate.com:/pub/tv-0.2.tar.gz If he hustle we may be able to include "tv" in the 2.2 release 8) Cheers, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Dec 29 23:08:43 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id XAA03864 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 23:08:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA03859 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 23:08:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id HAA27097; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 07:30:43 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199612300630.HAA27097@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Next Generation "Tv" To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 07:30:42 +0100 (MET) Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199612300216.SAA10622@rah.star-gate.com> from "Amancio Hasty" at Dec 29, 96 06:16:33 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Here is a great opportunity to contribute 8) > > Requirements: > > Support for the following : > o color depths: 8, 15, 16, 32 I have 16bit already working, and 8-bit almost ready. Wasn't 32-bit already supported from the start ? > o brightness > o hue > o contrast > o scaling (ability to grab a window and stretch it) What do you mean exactly ? resizing the "tv" window ? > o direct output to vga frame buffer Amancio, you did have this, didn't you ? What kind of X support does it need ? Luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Dec 30 00:12:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id AAA06081 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 00:12:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id AAA06076 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 00:12:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA01018; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 00:12:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199612300812.AAA01018@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Luigi Rizzo cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Next Generation "Tv" In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 30 Dec 1996 07:30:42 +0100." <199612300630.HAA27097@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 00:12:12 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sorry , I forgot a few items : Save a snap shot or continously save to save in either rgb or yuv format. Not sure about continously saving to a file , we could implement loadable modules so that we can save the files in h.263, h.261, rgb, or yuv formats. With respect to saving snapshots check first the highest snapshot number and continue from there. Too many times have I deleted cool shots because "tv" always starts taking snapshots from img000.jpg and up. So lets gather volunteers and a complete list of reguirements. >From The Desk Of Luigi Rizzo : > > Here is a great opportunity to contribute 8) > > > > Requirements: > > > > Support for the following : > > o color depths: 8, 15, 16, 32 > > I have 16bit already working, and 8-bit almost ready. Wasn't 32-bit > already supported from the start ? Just wanted to spec it out. Yes, 32 bit as well as 15 bit has been implemented. > > o brightness > > o hue > > o contrast > > o scaling (ability to grab a window and stretch it) > > What do you mean exactly ? resizing the "tv" window ? I grab the "tv" window and streach horizontally or vertically and "tv" will issue the appropiate geometry call to the video capture driver. > > o direct output to vga frame buffer > > Amancio, you did have this, didn't you ? What kind of X support does it > need ? Yes, I did this and is more of a coordination effort with Jim Lowe and me so that the meteor driver compiles the appropiate code and ioctls to support PCI to PCI. On the X server side of things we just need a handle to acquire the virtual address of the frame buffer. Such a call already exists for XFree86 however there is no counterpart for Xinside's X server. This feature I consider very important cause it is bloodly fast 8) Enjoy, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Dec 30 00:49:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id AAA08042 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 00:49:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id AAA08037 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 00:49:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id JAA27269; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 09:11:38 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199612300811.JAA27269@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Next Generation "Tv" To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 09:11:38 +0100 (MET) Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199612300812.AAA01018@rah.star-gate.com> from "Amancio Hasty" at Dec 30, 96 00:11:53 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Sorry , I forgot a few items : > > Save a snap shot or continously save to save in either rgb or yuv format. this is already implemented in the version which is on my web site (rgb only since it displays while saving to file). > Not sure about continously saving to a file , we could implement > loadable modules so that we can save the files in h.263, h.261, > rgb, or yuv formats. > > With respect to saving snapshots check first the highest snapshot > number and continue from there. Too many times have I deleted > cool shots because "tv" always starts taking snapshots from > img000.jpg and up. agreed. Luigi From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Dec 30 06:21:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id GAA27377 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 06:21:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from moonpie.w8hd.org (root@moonpie.w8hd.org [198.252.159.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id GAA27372 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 06:21:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from moonpie.w8hd.org (kimc@moonpie.w8hd.org [198.252.159.14]) by moonpie.w8hd.org (8.8.4/8.8.2) with SMTP id JAA08948; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 09:20:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 09:20:45 -0500 (EST) From: Kim Culhan To: Amancio Hasty cc: Luigi Rizzo , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Next Generation "Tv" In-Reply-To: <199612300812.AAA01018@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 30 Dec 1996, Amancio Hasty wrote: > Sorry , I forgot a few items : > number and continue from there. Too many times have I deleted > cool shots because "tv" always starts taking snapshots from > img000.jpg and up. Yes, same here :] > So lets gather volunteers and a complete list of reguirements. How about saving a shot on receipt of SIGUSR1 or similar ? kim -- kimc@w8hd.org From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Dec 30 11:45:34 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id LAA13982 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 11:45:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts6-line11.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id LAA13977 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 11:45:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.2/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA00334; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 11:45:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 11:45:24 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Tomi Vainio cc: multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PAS16 playback In-Reply-To: <199612292346.BAA10354@zeta.fidata.fi> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 30 Dec 1996, Tomi Vainio wrote: > Doug White writes: > > On Sun, 29 Dec 1996, Tomi Vainio wrote: > > > > > I have this same problem with two machines. Both machines are pentium > > > systems running FreeBSD 2.1.6.1. Sound cards are PAS16 and PAS16D. I > > > have tested systems with Realaudio 3.0 and cdd 1.0 pcmplay. Realaudio > > > welcome.ra should last 12 seconds but it takes only 4 to play it. CD > > > images recorded with cdd also plays to quick but under W95 Cool Edit > > > these work fine. > > > > Make sure your interrupts are correct. This sounds like a misconfigured > > card. > > > I already tried 3,5,6,7 dma and 5,9,10 irq settings. Only difference > between some of these are that playback goes 2-3s loop. Soundblaster > section works nice with cat test.au > /dev/audio1 You may need to point your apps at the sb half then. ln -s /dev/audio1 /dev/audio I believe the PAS is a softset -- you need to run the utility and figure out just where the card is.. I don't have a PAS so I don't know the proper operating procedure for them. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Dec 30 11:54:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id LAA14671 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 11:54:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts6-line11.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id LAA14666 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 11:54:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.2/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA00349; Mon, 30 Dec 1996 11:54:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 11:54:17 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Stan Brown cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recoendations for Sound card under FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <199612300018.TAA14963@netcom18.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 29 Dec 1996, Stan Brown wrote: > > I have a Gravis Ultrasound Plug & Play that I like quite a bit. It won't > > coexist with an SB AWE32, but the audio from it is unparalleled. > > Especially if you plan on doing any mbone / audio conferencing work. > > Thanks, I think that may be the one I wind up with. Did you buy yours > locally or order it? > > If you ordered it, could you recomend the source? I ordered it directly from Gravis -- bad call. :( You can get it for $50 cheaper if you look around. I think my supplier Insight Direct (http://www.insight.com) had it for around $130 or so. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major