From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 16 02:53:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA28906 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 02:53:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prop (prop.caribnet.net [205.214.195.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA28900 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 02:53:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 05:53:29 -0400 (AST) From: Sean Batson X-Sender: valtech@PPP2F.sunbeach.net To: Terry Lambert cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: defrags In-Reply-To: <199606110043.RAA05303@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You guys said I shouldn't worry about the 0.7% but its now 0.9% and increasing each time I shutdown the software down and restart. Sean.. On Mon, 10 Jun 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: > > How is fragmentation dealt with under FreeBSD? > > By using clyinder groups to prevent it from ever ocurring. > > > Is there a utility for defragmenting the Hard Drive? > > No. Since it never occurs, you never need a defragger. > > > The following is summary of my start up showing my disk: > > > > /dev/rwd0a: clean 8604 free (108 frags, 2124 blocks, 0.7% fragmentation) > > /dev/rwd0s2f: clean 21384 free (148 frags, 5309 blocks, 0.1% fragmentation) > > /dev/rwd0s2e: clean 12934 free (70 frags, 3216 blocks, 0.5% fragmentation) > > > > How do i defrag the above partitions? > > Change your file sizes so that partial files are all some multiple > of 512 bytes. ;-). The reported fragmentation is the unusable > disk space (as opposed to the DOS fragmentation, which is the disk > space rendered unusable by the DOS FS layout policy). > > You will always have some minimal amount of fragmentation because > hard disks read and write in terms of blocks. > > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers. > > From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 16 03:55:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA00496 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 03:55:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gld.com (mail.gld.com [205.216.94.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA00490 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 03:55:04 -0700 (PDT) From: bsd@mail.gld.com Received: from store.gld.com (store.gld.com [205.216.94.4]) by mail.gld.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id GAA06189 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 06:56:54 -0400 Message-Id: <199606161056.GAA06189@mail.gld.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 06:52:17 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Why won't even the Generic kernel compile on 2.1.0 release 0? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.32) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have set up 2.1.0 twice now on the same machine and nothing much will compile, including the GENERIC kernel! I install by means of FTP at ftp.freebsd.org Is there something wrong with the distribution? Or is it somthing I'm doing wrong. Note: I have succesfuly compiled the kernels on 4 other machines but that was with an older version of FreeBSD. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! -Mike Michael C. Shultz President, MCS Computer Inc DBA MCS Internet Services 309 North Spence Ave Goldsboro, NC 27534 (919) 751-5777 email shultz@mail.gld.com URL http://www.gld.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 16 04:37:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA02962 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 04:37:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA02957 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 04:37:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Root.COM (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id EAA26877; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 04:37:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606161137.EAA26877@Root.COM> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.Root.COM: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: bsd@mail.gld.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why won't even the Generic kernel compile on 2.1.0 release 0? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 16 Jun 1996 06:52:17 -0000." <199606161056.GAA06189@mail.gld.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 04:37:42 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I have set up 2.1.0 twice now on the same machine and nothing much >will compile, including the GENERIC kernel! I install by means of >FTP at ftp.freebsd.org > Is there something wrong with the distribution? Or is it somthing >I'm doing wrong. Note: I have succesfuly compiled the kernels on 4 >other machines but that was with an older version of FreeBSD. > Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Please describe in detail what "won't compile" means. Include any error messages or other indications of the failure. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 16 07:09:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA09693 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 07:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gandalf.asiapac.net ([202.188.0.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA09688 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 07:09:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tnc0162.asiapac.net (tnc0162.asiapac.net [202.188.0.162]) by gandalf.asiapac.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA09074 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 21:53:28 +0800 Message-ID: <31C40FDC.27E@asiapac.net> Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 06:45:00 -0700 From: ac X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: SNMP for FreeBSD 2.x X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hai, i'm new to FreeBSD world an looking allover the place for the SNMP--for freebsd. I would be very happy for your help. thankyou Anba From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 16 08:22:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA14437 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 08:22:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA14425 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 08:21:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA26237; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 09:21:40 -0600 Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 09:21:40 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199606161521.JAA26237@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: Sean Batson Cc: Terry Lambert , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: defrags In-Reply-To: References: <199606110043.RAA05303@phaeton.artisoft.com> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > You guys said I shouldn't worry about the 0.7% but its now > 0.9% and increasing each time I shutdown the software down > and restart. It may get as high as 2%, but that's pretty trivial compared to what you'll have on a DOS fs about 10 minutes after you start it. It's so trivial that you can consider the fragmentation irrelevant. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 16 11:35:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA05142 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 11:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ki.net (root@ki.net [205.150.102.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05137 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 11:35:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by ki.net (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id OAA10537; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 14:35:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 14:35:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: ac cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SNMP for FreeBSD 2.x In-Reply-To: <31C40FDC.27E@asiapac.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 16 Jun 1996, ac wrote: > hai, i'm new to FreeBSD world an looking allover the place for the > SNMP--for freebsd. I would be very happy for your help. > There is a package out of University of California @ Davis that works with some...tweaking. The diffs below have been submitted for the next release, and one of these days, I'll learn how to make it into a port and submit it...maybe even today...but for now, get these and you should be fine... To get the base distribution: ftp.ece.ucdavis.edu:/pub/snmp/ucd-snmp.tar.gz Patch file: ftp.ki.net:/pub/users/scrappy/ucd-snmp.3.1-diffs.gz NOTE: these patches have been submitted to the developer, and he has stated that they should be incorporated into the next official releaes. Marc G. Fournier scrappy@ki.net Systems Administrator @ ki.net scrappy@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 16 13:02:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA09556 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 13:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA09547 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 13:02:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id NAA21382 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 13:02:52 -0700 Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-1) with ESMTP id QAA21712; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 16:25:48 +0100 (BST) To: ac cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: SNMP for FreeBSD 2.x In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 16 Jun 1996 06:45:00 PDT." <31C40FDC.27E@asiapac.net> Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 16:25:47 +0100 Message-ID: <21710.834938747@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ac wrote in message ID <31C40FDC.27E@asiapac.net>: > hai, i'm new to FreeBSD world an looking allover the place for the > SNMP--for freebsd. I would be very happy for your help. If you give me a day or two, I'll make a port of the effort Marc and myself have been making to port UCD-SNMP to FreeBSD. There is a lot more functionality in the version I am running than there is (for FreeBSD) in the release (currently 3.1 I believe). Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 16 13:05:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA09914 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 13:05:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA09877 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 13:05:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-1) with ESMTP id VAA22094; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 21:02:18 +0100 (BST) To: "Marc G. Fournier" cc: ac , questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: SNMP for FreeBSD 2.x In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 16 Jun 1996 14:35:37 EDT." Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 21:02:17 +0100 Message-ID: <22092.834955337@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Marc G. Fournier" wrote in message ID : > Patch file: > > ftp.ki.net:/pub/users/scrappy/ucd-snmp.3.1-diffs.gz > NOTE: these patches have been submitted to the developer, and he has > stated that they should be incorporated into the next official > releaes. N.B.: I have an improved set of patches in testing, and will likely be sending Marc a new copy of the patches, as well as submitting them back to the maintainer/developer for future inclusion. I HOPE to do this today. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 16 13:06:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA10043 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 13:06:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA10030 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 13:06:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id NAA21391 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 13:05:49 -0700 Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-1) with ESMTP id QAA21698; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 16:23:37 +0100 (BST) To: Sean Batson cc: Terry Lambert , questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: defrags In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 16 Jun 1996 05:53:29 EDT." Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 16:23:35 +0100 Message-ID: <21696.834938615@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sean Batson wrote in message ID : > You guys said I shouldn't worry about the 0.7% but its now > 0.9% and increasing each time I shutdown the software down > and restart. This is because you are using more disk space, no doubt ... I REALLY wouldn't worry. I think you are getting confused between DOS fragmentation and FFS fragmentation ... Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 16 13:46:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA13983 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 13:46:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gld.com (mail.gld.com [205.216.94.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA13974 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 13:46:01 -0700 (PDT) From: bsd@mail.gld.com Received: from store.gld.com (store.gld.com [205.216.94.4]) by mail.gld.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA09688; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 16:48:02 -0400 Message-Id: <199606162048.QAA09688@mail.gld.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 16:43:24 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Why won't even the Generic kernel compile on 2.1.0 rele CC: questions@freebsd.org Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.32) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >I have set up 2.1.0 twice now on the same machine and nothing much > >will compile, including the GENERIC kernel! I install by means of > >FTP at ftp.freebsd.org > > Is there something wrong with the distribution? Or is it somthing > >I'm doing wrong. Note: I have succesfuly compiled the kernels on 4 > >other machines but that was with an older version of FreeBSD. > > Any advice would be greatly appreciated! > > Please describe in detail what "won't compile" means. Include any error > messages or other indications of the failure. > > -DG > > David Greenman > Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project > > Here is what I'm using and ................ FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE (GENERIC) #0: Thu Nov 16 10:47:14 1995 Here is the error when I compile the GENERIC Kernel. make depend has already run but when I then run make I get ........... cc -c -O -W -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -nostdinc -I. -I../.. -I../../sys -I../../../include -DGENERIC -DI586_CPU -DI486_CPU -DI386_CP U -DSYSVMSG -DSYSVSEM -DSYSVSHM -DUCONSOLE -DBOUNCE_BUFFERS -DSCSI_DELAY=15 -DCO MPAT_43 -DPROCFS -DCD9660 -DMSDOSFS -DNFS -DFFS -DINET -DMATH_EMULATE -DKERNEL - Di386 -DLOAD_ADDRESS=0xF0100000 ../../kern/kern_subr.c cc -c -O -W -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -nostdinc -I. -I../.. -I../../sys -I../../../include -DGENERIC -DI586_CPU -DI486_CPU -DI386_CP U -DSYSVMSG -DSYSVSEM -DSYSVSHM -DUCONSOLE -DBOUNCE_BUFFERS -DSCSI_DELAY=15 -DCO MPAT_43 -DPROCFS -DCD9660 -DMSDOSFS -DNFS -DFFS -DINET -DMATH_EMULATE -DKERNEL - Di386 -DLOAD_ADDRESS=0xF0100000 ../../kern/kern_synch.c cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 4 *** Error code 1 Stop. digi3: {2} The system is a clone, it has a AMD 486DX2/80 CPU, 8 Megs memory, a Western Digital 420 Meg AC2420 hard drive, Trident VLB vid card, and I'm not sure avout the HD controller, except that its local bus. There is also a NE2000 compatible network card in it set to 0x300 and irq 10. Oh, and there are no bad sectors on the HD, I just was confused at the bad block scan screen. BTW, I've set it up three times now, always with the same result. Yesterday I hadthe newest SNAP loaded ok, put was receiving many arp errors as pppd was run then killed then run again. Before I tried to fix that problem I wanted to make sure I had a stable version of BSD on the system. If you need any other information, just let me know, and I'm sorry for not posting this earlier. -Mike Michael C. Shultz President, MCS Computer Inc DBA MCS Internet Services 309 North Spence Ave Goldsboro, NC 27534 (919) 751-5777 email shultz@mail.gld.com URL http://www.gld.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 16 13:48:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA14197 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 13:48:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA14154 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 13:48:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id SAA03863; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 18:55:11 GMT Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 18:55:11 GMT Message-Id: <199606161855.SAA03863@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: ac@asiapac.net CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <31C40FDC.27E@asiapac.net> (message from ac on Sun, 16 Jun 1996 06:45:00 -0700) Subject: Re: SNMP for FreeBSD 2.x Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > hai, i'm new to FreeBSD world an looking allover the place for the > SNMP--for freebsd. I would be very happy for your help. 'scotty' in the networking ports has an SNMP interface. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 16 15:20:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA24140 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 15:20:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from berimbau.interligue.com.br (berimbau.interligue.com.br [200.254.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA24127 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 15:20:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jangada.interligue.com.br (jangada.interligue.com.br [200.254.31.3]) by berimbau.interligue.com.br (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA01111 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 19:14:51 -0300 Message-Id: <199606162214.TAA01111@berimbau.interligue.com.br> Received: from G0L1K9 (200.254.31.11) by jangada.interligue.com.br id ; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 19:10:18 -0300 X-Sender: flaviosa@mail.interligue.com.br (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 02:02:44 +0100 To: questions@FreeBSD.org From: Flavio Sa Subject: Windows 95 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can Windows 95 and Free BSD share a computer? Should I follow the install.txt intructions considering DOS? Thanks, From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 16 16:39:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA28397 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 16:39:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA28390 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 16:39:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Root.COM (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA12603; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 16:39:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606162339.QAA12603@Root.COM> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.Root.COM: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: bsd@mail.gld.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why won't even the Generic kernel compile on 2.1.0 rele In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 16 Jun 1996 16:43:24 -0000." <199606162048.QAA09688@mail.gld.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 16:39:04 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > -I../.. -I../../sys -I../../../include -DGENERIC -DI586_CPU -DI486_CPU > -DI386_CP U -DSYSVMSG -DSYSVSEM -DSYSVSHM -DUCONSOLE -DBOUNCE_BUFFERS > -DSCSI_DELAY=15 -DCO MPAT_43 -DPROCFS -DCD9660 -DMSDOSFS -DNFS -DFFS > -DINET -DMATH_EMULATE -DKERNEL - Di386 -DLOAD_ADDRESS=0xF0100000 > ../../kern/kern_synch.c cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got > fatal signal 4 *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > digi3: {2} > >The system is a clone, it has a AMD 486DX2/80 CPU, 8 Megs memory, a >Western Digital 420 Meg AC2420 hard drive, Trident VLB vid card, and >I'm not sure avout the HD controller, except that its local bus. >There is also a NE2000 compatible network card in it set to 0x300 and >irq 10. The above is likely caused by either bad memory, bad cache RAM, or a CPU that is running faster than it should be. A "signal 4" is an illegal instruction trap. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 16 17:02:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA00437 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 17:02:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA00431 for FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 17:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 17:02:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Lehey Message-Id: <199606170002.RAA00431@freefall.freebsd.org> To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. =================================================== Last update 7 May 1996. This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the questions (the "hackers"**). In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. I'm taking the viewpoint of the newcomer here: we have other ways of handling arrogant hackers :-) When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, please remember: 1. Nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question. They do it of their own free will. You can influence this free will positively by submitting a well-formulated question supplying as much relevant information as possible. You can influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete, illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible to send a message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer. In the rest of this document, we'll look at how to get the most out of your question to FreeBSD-questions. 2. Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message, so please specify a subject. "FreeBSD problem" or "Can't get this to work" aren't enough. If you provide no subject at all, most people won't bother reading it. If your subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may not read it. 3. Please try to format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!!!!!. We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak English as their first language, and we try to make allowances for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message written full of typos or without any line breaks. 4. Please don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly, a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the questions to read the message. 5. Please specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult area, and we need to expand on what information you need to submit, but here's a start: - If you get error messages, don't say "I get error messages", say (for example) "I get the error message 'No route to host'". - If your system panics, don't say "My system panicked", say (for example) "my system panicked with the message 'free vnode isn't'". - If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your machine. 6. If you don't get an answer, there could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after, say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same message again and again will only make you unpopular. For example, let's assume you know the answer to the following question. You choose which of these two questions you would be more prepared to answer: Message 1: Subject: (none) I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message 2: Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing Operating System". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ** Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for this activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 16 17:15:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA00813 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 17:15:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.aros.net (mailhub.aros.net [205.164.111.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA00808 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 17:15:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from terra.aros.net (terra.aros.net [205.164.111.10]) by mailhub.aros.net (8.7.5/Unknown) with ESMTP id SAA05608; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 18:55:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from angio@localhost) by terra.aros.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) id SAA23695; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 18:15:23 -0600 From: Dave Andersen Message-Id: <199606170015.SAA23695@terra.aros.net> Subject: Re: -current SNAP installation panics To: dwhite@riley-net170-164.uoregon.edu (Doug White) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 18:15:23 -0600 (MDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606150851.BAA00996@gdi.uoregon.edu> from "Doug White" at Jun 15, 96 01:51:24 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 PGP2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Lo and behold, Doug White once said: > > -------- > > My $.02 says that I have a hardware problem, most likely dead memory, > > but I'm wondering if anyone has a more precise idea before I start > > strangling my supplier and asking for a replacement? > > Always a good guess :-) > > > It still panics with both the onboard and external caches disabled. > > It's a P133, triton chipset/award bios, 2 XP3125 quantum grand-prix > > (oops) 2gb HDs, 32 megs of 60-ns non-edo ram, adaptec 2940W controller, > > off-brand PCI video card. > > > > Clues? Memory? > > Panic details? (error message, panic code, etc.) It's not quoted in the your message, but in my original I stated that I wasn't including them because they varied -- I never got the same kernel panic twice. Different routines, different processes, different stack pointers. I took the easy way out and gutted another of my computers for its RAM. Presto, working perfectly. I'm just very relieved it wasn't the motherboard. (Past -questions and -hackers archive messages from Mike Smith indicate that problems of that nature are most likely a) memory, b) cache memory, or c) a horked motherboard. I wasn't in the mood to open the case up, because the computer is from a new supplier, and I wans't sure what their policies were w.r.t. the warranty were. -Dave -- angio@aros.net Complete virtual hosting and business-oriented system administration Internet services. (WWW, FTP, email) http://www.aros.net/ http://www.aros.net/about/virtual "There are only two industries that refer to their customers as 'users'." From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 16 17:34:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA01322 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 17:34:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA01314; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 17:34:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id XAA00571; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 23:33:50 GMT Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 23:33:50 GMT Message-Id: <199606162333.XAA00571@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG CC: valtech@caribnet.net, terry@lambert.org, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <21696.834938615@palmer.demon.co.uk> (message from Gary Palmer on Sun, 16 Jun 1996 16:23:35 +0100) Subject: Re: defrags Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > You guys said I shouldn't worry about the 0.7% but its now > > 0.9% and increasing each time I shutdown the software down > > and restart. > > This is because you are using more disk space, no doubt ... I REALLY > wouldn't worry. I think you are getting confused between DOS > fragmentation and FFS fragmentation ... It's unfortunate that they use the same word is used for rather different things. DOS fragmentation means that a file is split into parts because DOS wasn't intelligent enough to work out how to write it as a single, contiguous file. FFS fragmentation means that, instead of being wasted, unused space in a block is used for storing small files, which would otherwise need a block of their own and waste even more space. Let's look at an example:- Suppose we have to write two files. File A is 15360 bytes long and file B 512 bytes. Blocks are normally 4096 bytes on FFF, so file A needs four blocks to be stored - three full blocks and 3072 bytes of the fourth block. Now without fragmentation, the other 1024 bytes in the fourth block would be wasted. The file B would have to go in a block of its own, using only 512 out of the 4096 bytes available. By my arithmetic, that makes five blocks in use, of which 4608 bytes are wasted. Block: 1 2 3 4 5 ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ |XXXX| |XXXX| |XXXX| |XXX | |X | |XXXX| |XXXX| |XXXX| |XXX | |X | |XXXX| |XXXX| |XXXX| |XXX | | | |XXXX| |XXXX| |XXXX| |XXX | | | ----- ------ ------ ------ ------ File A is stored here File B However, if we allow fragmentation, we can put file B in the spare bytes at the end of the fourth block:- Block: 1 2 3 4 ------ ------ ------ ------ |XXXX| |XXXX| |XXXX| |XXXX| |XXXX| |XXXX| |XXXX| |XXXX| |XXXX| |XXXX| |XXXX| |XXX | |XXXX| |XXXX| |XXXX| |XXX | ----- ------ ------ ------ File A is stored here | |--------- File B goes in the free space at the end of block 4 Now we're using four blocks, instead of five, and the wasted space is only 512 bytes. If we can find another 512 byte file to put in it, even that space doesn't have to be wasted! Hope this helps. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 16 17:38:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA01580 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 17:38:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.gld.com (mail.gld.com [205.216.94.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA01563 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 17:38:11 -0700 (PDT) From: bsd@mail.gld.com Received: from store.gld.com (store.gld.com [205.216.94.4]) by mail.gld.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA11976 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 20:40:23 -0400 Message-Id: <199606170040.UAA11976@mail.gld.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 20:35:45 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: (Fwd) Re: Why won't even the Generic kernel compile on 2.1.0 r Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.32) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: bsd@mail.gld.com To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 20:29:38 +0000 Subject: Re: Why won't even the Generic kernel compile on 2.1.0 rele Cc: questions@freebasd.org Priority: normal > > -I../.. -I../../sys -I../../../include -DGENERIC -DI586_CPU -DI486_CPU > > -DI386_CP U -DSYSVMSG -DSYSVSEM -DSYSVSHM -DUCONSOLE -DBOUNCE_BUFFERS > > -DSCSI_DELAY=15 -DCO MPAT_43 -DPROCFS -DCD9660 -DMSDOSFS -DNFS -DFFS > > -DINET -DMATH_EMULATE -DKERNEL - Di386 -DLOAD_ADDRESS=0xF0100000 > > ../../kern/kern_synch.c cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got > > fatal signal 4 *** Error code 1 > > > > Stop. > > digi3: {2} > > > > The above is likely caused by either bad memory, bad cache RAM, or a > CPU that is running faster than it should be. A "signal 4" is an illegal > instruction trap. > > -DG > Ok, but I have since installed the newest SNAP on the same machine, and everything compiles well with no hardware changes. If I notice any other problems using SNAP I'll change the motherboard and SIMM module first and see if that clears it up. Thanks for your help. -Mike Michael C. Shultz President, MCS Computer Inc DBA MCS Internet Services 309 North Spence Ave Goldsboro, NC 27534 (919) 751-5777 email shultz@mail.gld.com URL http://www.gld.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 16 19:00:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA04327 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 19:00:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diamond.sierra.net (diamond.sierra.net [204.94.39.235]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA04321 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 19:00:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [206.153.175.16] (slt-d16.sierra.net) by diamond.sierra.net with SMTP id AA22448 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 16 Jun 1996 19:01:10 -0700 Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 19:01:10 -0700 Message-Id: <199606170201.AA22448@diamond.sierra.net> Subject: Re: Ethernet setup From: Kevin Avila To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Could you be more specific as to: > >. what the FreeBSD machine's configuration is > >. what you intend on doing (FreeBSD machine as router? end node? ) The machine is an old 386/DX33 with Math co. 5MB of RAM and a 1GIG hard disk. It will just be used as a eMail mail server for no more then 100 people. I'm not sure of the Ethernet card model, but I do know it is Novell NE2000 compatible. Thanks, Kevin From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 16 21:18:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA11170 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 21:18:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from al.imforei.apana.org.au (al.imforei.apana.org.au [202.12.89.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA11164 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 21:18:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pjchilds@localhost) by al.imforei.apana.org.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA14664 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 13:47:56 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 13:47:56 +0930 (CST) From: Peter Childs Message-Id: <199606170417.NAA14664@al.imforei.apana.org.au> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SNMP for FreeBSD 2.x Newsgroups: apana.lists.os.freebsd.questions X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk : If you give me a day or two, I'll make a port of the effort Marc : and myself have been making to port UCD-SNMP to : FreeBSD. There is a lot more functionality in the version I am running : than there is (for FreeBSD) in the release (currently 3.1 I believe). Waiting eagerly :) Peter -- Peter Childs --- http://www.imforei.apana.org.au/~pjchilds Active APANA SA Member --- Author PopWatch + Inf-HTML Email: pjchilds@imforei.apana.org.au Fax: 61-8-82784742 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 00:41:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA19999 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 00:41:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de (odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de [139.30.40.28]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA19986 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 00:41:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lkoeller@localhost) by odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA00457; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:40:36 +0200 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:40:36 +0200 From: Lars Koeller Message-Id: <199606170740.JAA00457@odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de> X-Face: nLQGe[[K51[{{[C\,BiQm[7]u1m{N>_\%nLBo4t@)CoZ}hK[W7DwX&V=}Wf#Qb,j:Jpj[(12r=b~:dYmh]fDf\, ]_frt6eM' dated: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 08:02:34 +0100 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! > Bill Trost wrote in message ID > : > > I have been trying to get amd to automount my CD-ROM for me, with zero > > success. The command I have been using is "amd /cdrom ./cdrom", > > where the file ./cdrom contains > > > > /defaults type:=ufs > > > > cd type:=program;\ > > mount:="/sbin/mount_cd9660 mount_cd9660 /dev/cd0a ${fs}";\ > > umount:="/sbin/umount umount /dev/cd0a"; > > No idea. I got this to work for me with the following map: > > /defaults type:=program > cdrom mount:="/sbin/mount mount -t cd9660 /dev/cd0a ${path}";unmount:="/sbin/umount umount /dev/cd0a" > > Gary > -- > Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member > FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info I've also some problems with amd configuration. My map has the following apparence: /defaults opts:=rw,soft,intr,grpid,nosuid,timeo=10 floppy host==odie;type:=ufs;dev:=/dev/fd0 cdrom host==odie;type:=program;\ mount:="/sbin/mount mount -t cd9660 /dev/cd0a ${path}";\ unmount:="/sbin/umount umount /dev/cd0a" I start amd with "amd /amd /root/amd.conf" and all works well for the floppy. When I type "ll /amd/floppy/" amd mounts the floppy and the directory is shown. But not in the case of cdrom. It tries to mount the cdrom into /amd/cdrom but there is no directory amd/cdrom and the mount fails. This only works if I make a dir /cdrom and change the line above into mount:="/sbin/mount mount -t cd9660 /dev/cd0a /cdrom";\ but that's a little bit confusing. Any ideas? How do you start your amd, what dirs are present? Thanks Lars -- ___________________________________________________________________________ Lars Köller Phone: +49 381/498-1665, Fax: -1667 Universität Rostock E-Mail: Fachbereich Physik Lars_Koeller@odie.physik2.Uni-Rostock.DE Universitätsplatz 3 Anonymous ftp: 18051 Rostock (Germany) ftp://odie.physik2.uni-rostock.de/pub From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 01:04:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA22887 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 01:04:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tommie.ngonet.be (tommie.ngonet.be [193.190.166.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA22821 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 01:04:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from koekiemonster.ngonet.be (koekiemonster.ngonet.be [193.190.166.75]) by tommie.ngonet.be (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA04477; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:01:13 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <31C510BA.6EC7@ngonet.be> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:00:58 +0200 From: Gunter Loos Organization: NgoNet Brussels Belgium X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carey Nairn CC: Branson Matheson , FreeBSD-Questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: User PPP question References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Carey Nairn wrote: > > > You could telnet to localhost 3000 and connect to the ppp process and check > > the status of the prompt... > > > > ppp> means down > > PPP> means up > > That seems to be the only option at the moment... > > Well, of course you _could_ figure out how ppp knows whether to display ppp or PPP. shouldn't be that hard, I'd say... Gul -- . .__ . |Nationaal Centrum voor OntwikkelingsSamenwerking vzw, NgoNet _| _ [ __ | |Voice Gunter.Loos@+32 2 5392620 Fax +32 2 5391343 (_](/, [_./(_|| |mailto:gul@ngonet.be "You are all weirdos." - Sam the Eagle ----MijnEigenWoordenNietVanIemandAnders - MyOwnExpressionsNotSomeoneElses---- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 02:42:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA07621 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 02:42:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.rwth-aachen.de (mail.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA07127 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 02:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de) by mail.rwth-aachen.de (PMDF V5.0-4 #13110) id <01I60FLXTTNK002CH3@mail.rwth-aachen.de> for freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:16:35 +0100 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA05378 for freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:44:21 +0200 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:44:21 +0200 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Subject: smbprint (samba -> NT3.51) To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Message-id: <199606170744.JAA05378@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anyone gotten printing to NT printers via samba/smbprint working? I had just to make the bitter experience that people on our network were able doing this from linux while I failed doing it from FreeBSD (and I' m fighting for a couple of days now with password/authentication problems). --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 03:49:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA10686 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 03:49:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from germany.it.earthlink.net (germany-c.it.earthlink.net [206.85.92.123]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA10681 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 03:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (pool037.Max16.Washington.DC.DYNIP.ALTER.NET [153.37.5.165]) by germany.it.earthlink.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA25095; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 03:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <31C56121.3A9@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 06:44:01 -0700 From: Mike X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu CC: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Problem installing FreeBSD References: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------62FB4E563093" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------62FB4E563093 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Doug White wrote: > > On Sun, 2 Jun 1996, Jill wrote: > > Try to wrap your lines at about 72-75 characters or so. Your lines are > going off the edge here. > > > from the boot image and then stop with a "Failed to create root distribution" message. > > This occurs when trying to install from a DOS drive or from floppy drive (after asking > > for the root floppy image). I have followed all "Preparing for installation from xxx" > > instructions. > > Take a look at the ALT-F2 debug output. That may help to isolate the > problem. Lots of things cause that error. > > It disturbs me that it died pulling from the floppy. That usually always > works unless the disk image was flawed. > > Hardware specifics would be helpful too. (hd, controllers, cpu, etc.) > > > Unfortunately, I think I already know what the problem is. I am using an EIDE > > controller card and an EIDE Western Digital 1.6G hard drive and the hardware text files > > do not state compatabiltiy with these components. It does not mention Enhanced IDE > > drives at all. > > They're supported just fine. The only limitation is trying to boot when > the root partition isn't all the way below 1024 cylinders (520MB). > > Doug White | University of Oregon > Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major Doug White, I'm sorry I didn't respond earlier with a thank-you reply but I was so confident I knew what my problem was after your response that I immediately set out to accomplish the task. However, I'm right back to where I started from so unfortuneately this is more than a response of gratitude. I'm using a 486DX2-66, 20MB of RAM, 1.6G Western Digital EIDE-HD and EIDE I/O card, Stealth32 SVGA graphics card. My DOS primary partition, C:, was 350MB, and had logical drive, D:, 500MB in an extended partition. I was trying to install BSD with /-200MB, SWAP-40MB, /usr-500MB, and /var-20MB, starting after the extended partition. My thought after your response was that the BSD root (/?) was not below 1024 cylinders (520MB) so I set out to delete all partitions and start over. So, I made my new DOS primary partition 300MB, reinstalled C drive, and tried to load BSD immediately after that partition, this time with the slices /-200MB (so it should be under 520MB), SWAP-50MB, /usr-600MB, /var-50MB. But, i'm getting the same response, "Failed to create root distribution". This results after trying to install from floppy or from a DOS partition. I created my root.flp for the floppy install in the same manner I created the boot.flp as instructed in the docs. For the DOS partition install, the root.flp image is in the C:\freebsd\floppies directory. I attached the debug output, ALT-F2, for both installs (floppy and DOS partition). >From what I can tell, it's the root image that is causing a problem for both installations, but i can't imagine why. I've tried creating the root image every way possible, as instructed in the install.txt files etc. Except one file says to create the root image from the makeflp.bat program, but this file is on the CD-ROM which I obviously don't have and is not available to download from the ftp.freebsd.org site. I hope i provided enough information to get past this hurdle and get me up and running BSD. I'm very excited about being able to dump Microsoft and am already switching loyalties to UNIX. THANX for all your help --------------------------------------------- Damn the nay-sayers. Michael Kennedy --------------62FB4E563093 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="DEBUG.TXT" DEBUG from floppy install 14 blocks DEBUG: Command `cd /mnt/stand; find etc | cpio -pdmv /mnt' returns status of 0 DEBUG: Setting variable _runningOnRoot to yes DEBUG: Notify: Starting an emergency holographic shell on VTY4 DEBUG: Generating /etc/fstab file DEBUG: mkdir(/proc) DEBUG: mkdir(/proc..) DEBUG: Wrote out /etc/fstab file DEBUG: Attempting to extract root image from fd0 DEBUG: get RootFloppy on dev/fd0 yields fd of 6 DEBUG: Notify: Extracting root floppy.. gunzip: stdin: not if gzip format /stand/cpio: premature end of archive DEBUG: cpio returned error status of 1! DEBUG: switching back to VTY1 DEBUG from DOS filesystem DEBUG: Attempting to extract root image from wd0s1 DEBUG: mkdir(/dos) DEBUG: mkdir(/dos..) DEBUG: Mounted DOS device (/dev/wd0s1) on /dos DEBUG: Request for floppies/root.flp from DOS DEBUG: Notify: Loading root image from: wd0s1 gunzip: stdin: not if gzip format /stand/cpio: premature end of archive DEBUG: cpio returned error status of 1! DEBUG: Dummy [default] close called for wd0s1 with fd of 6. DEBUG: switching back to VTY1 --------------62FB4E563093-- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 05:29:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA14420 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 05:29:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tommie.ngonet.be (tommie.ngonet.be [193.190.166.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA14012; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 05:22:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from koekiemonster.ngonet.be (koekiemonster.ngonet.be [193.190.166.75]) by tommie.ngonet.be (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA06600; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:20:53 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <31C54D96.2B3D@ngonet.be> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:20:38 +0200 From: Gunter Loos Organization: NgoNet Brussels Belgium X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: PPP dial back? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thanks to myself and some lists (and 14 days of hard labour :-) I've gotten my dial-in connections to a freebsd box to work. More or less, I didn't figure everything out yet. Like in: how do I make dial back connections? Separate accounts? ? what *is* the best way to connect customers (using user ppp; should I give everybody an account, or use just one and pap)? I'm still getting some errors now and then: SIOCAIFADDR: File exists, but concerning what interface? and why? And does anyone know *where* all the options for ppp are described (in the RFC?) I've read everything I could find, but some things remain vague. Perhaps someone should work on a more extensive documentation. When I've got time.. Anyone? (And thanks in advance! :-) Gul -- . .__ . |Nationaal Centrum voor OntwikkelingsSamenwerking vzw, NgoNet _| _ [ __ | |Voice Gunter.Loos@+32 2 5392620 Fax +32 2 5391343 (_](/, [_./(_|| |mailto:gul@ngonet.be "You are all weirdos." - Sam the Eagle ----MijnEigenWoordenNietVanIemandAnders - MyOwnExpressionsNotSomeoneElses---- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 06:20:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA16525 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 06:20:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (terra.stack.urc.tue.nl [131.155.140.128]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA16520 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 06:20:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by terra.stack.urc.tue.nl (8.7.5) with UUCP id PAA09847 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 15:20:43 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from xaa@localhost) by xaa.stack.urc.tue.nl (8.7.5/8.6.12) id PAA02324 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 15:20:20 +0200 (MET DST) From: Mark Huizer Message-Id: <199606171320.PAA02324@xaa.stack.urc.tue.nl> Subject: ifconfig aliases... To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 15:20:20 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: xaa@stack.urc.tue.nl X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL19 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk If I use an alias with ifconfig, what name of the many will other machines choose as originating hosts for telnet etc... or: what ip-address is used in tcp-connection originating at the aliased machine?? Mark ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Mark Huizer - xaa@stack.urc.tue.nl - huizer@circlesoft.nl - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - A bird in the hand makes it awfully hard to blow your nose. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 06:24:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA16620 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 06:24:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from only.justcompute.com ([208.128.131.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA16614 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 06:24:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BBS.justcompute.com (bbs.justcompute.com [208.128.131.2]) by only.justcompute.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA08825 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:26:58 -0400 Message-Id: <199606171326.JAA08825@only.justcompute.com> Received: from [208.128.131.109] by BBS.justcompute.com id 4ad60.wrk; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:22:44 EDT From: "Chris Lavin" To: Subject: Help with serial terms and modems Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:19:25 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1085 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ok Im stumped... I am trying to enable ttyd0 on my system for a connection through a NULL MODEM cable. I have tried, tried and tried again. I have edited my "ttys" file for ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" unknown on secure. But I fail to get a connect. I have tried 3 different null modem cables.. Im about ready to pulll my hair out! Can you offer any help? Oh yes my serial ports do exist and are recognized as 16550 Uarts. I just don't know what else to try.. Thanx Chris From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 07:20:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA20613 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 07:20:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Kryten.nina.com (dyn049-gnv.51.fdt.net [205.229.51.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA20605 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 07:20:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from frankd@localhost) by Kryten.nina.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id KAA20700; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:18:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:18:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Frank Seltzer X-Sender: frankd@Kryten.nina.com To: Chris Lavin cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help with serial terms and modems In-Reply-To: <199606171326.JAA08825@only.justcompute.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 17 Jun 1996, Chris Lavin wrote: > Ok Im stumped... I am trying to enable ttyd0 on my system for a connection > through a NULL MODEM cable. I have tried, tried and tried again. I have > edited my "ttys" file for ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" unknown on > secure. But I fail to get a connect. I have tried 3 different null modem > cables.. Im about ready to pulll my hair out! Can you offer any help? Oh > yes my serial ports do exist and are recognized as 16550 Uarts. I just > don't know what else to try.. > > > Thanx > Chris Have you rebooted or issued the command kill -1 1 to force the system to reread ttys? I have this enabled on my system and it works fine - the only difference in my ttys is I set the term type to vt100 rather than unknown. Frank -- Only in America can a homeless veteran sleep in a cardboard box while a draft dodger sleeps in the White House. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 07:36:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA21792 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 07:36:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fly.HiWAAY.net (dkelly@fly.HiWAAY.net [204.214.4.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA21785 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 07:36:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fly.HiWAAY.net; (8.7.5/1.1.8.2/21Sep95-1003PM) id JAA12507; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:35:42 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:35:42 -0500 (CDT) From: David Kelly Message-Id: <199606171435.JAA12507@fly.HiWAAY.net> To: chrisl@bbs.justcompute.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help with serial terms and modems Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Ok Im stumped... I am trying to enable ttyd0 on my system for a connection >through a NULL MODEM cable. I have tried, tried and tried again. I have >edited my "ttys" file for ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" unknown on >secure. But I fail to get a connect. I have tried 3 different null modem >cables.. Im about ready to pulll my hair out! Can you offer any help? Oh >yes my serial ports do exist and are recognized as 16550 Uarts. I just >don't know what else to try.. Start with a "kill -HUP 1" to tell init to re-read /etc/ttys. Then you might try "ps -aux | grep getty" to verify the getty has been started on your serial port. As for playing with serial ports and cables and stuff, there is a simple "tester" with (7) bicolor LED's available at Radio Shack for under $15 (and elsewhere for less) that I find essential. Not only can you tell at a glance what state your serial lines are in, you can tell the difference between DCE and DTE equipment. Simply plug the tester into a serial port and note if RxD or TxD lights. Unplug it from your serial port and plug it into the cable. If none of the LED's light that were lit before, then you have reason to suspect that you have the correct cable. This little tester is also great for watching CTS/RTS and CD/DTR pairs on modems. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 07:38:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA21870 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 07:38:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from only.justcompute.com ([208.128.131.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA21864 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 07:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BBS.justcompute.com (bbs.justcompute.com [208.128.131.2]) by only.justcompute.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA08889 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:40:43 -0400 Message-Id: <199606171440.KAA08889@only.justcompute.com> Received: from [208.128.131.109] by BBS.justcompute.com id 548d0.wrk; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:36:26 EDT From: "Chris Lavin" To: Subject: Serial Communication Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:33:15 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1085 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am having trouble getting serial terrms to work. I amn doing everything correctly still nuttin. I am wonder if it could be because my system reads sl0 as a ethernet device. Could that be the conflict? Thanx Chris From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 08:23:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA24536 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 08:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bubba.webinnovators.com (bubba.webinnovators.com [204.248.190.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA24528 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 08:23:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (pm1-23.niia.net [204.248.189.23]) by bubba.webinnovators.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA32711 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:23:53 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:23:53 -0500 From: "Brett L. Nordby" Message-Id: <199606171523.KAA32711@bubba.webinnovators.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Question X-Mailer: Mozilla/1.22 (compatible; MSIE 2.0; Mac_PowerPC) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! Sorry to bother you with a question, but I need help. Could you please point me to documentation showing me how to schedule a cron job? I'm afraid I lost my FreeBSD book, and the man pages say nothing of the format. Thanks! Brett L. Nordby From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 08:27:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA24734 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 08:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA24719 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 08:27:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA00981; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 11:26:57 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 11:26:57 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9606171526.AA00981@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: xaa@stack.urc.tue.nl Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: ifconfig aliases... In-Reply-To: <199606171320.PAA02324@xaa.stack.urc.tue.nl> References: <199606171320.PAA02324@xaa.stack.urc.tue.nl> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > If I use an alias with ifconfig, what name of the many will other > machines choose as originating hosts for telnet etc... > or: what ip-address is used in tcp-connection originating at the aliased > machine?? Whichever one ends up getting associated with the route to the destination. Usually this will be the first address configured on the interface to which that route points. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 08:36:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA25319 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 08:36:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Bluebill.nap.net (root@Bluebill.nap.net [206.54.224.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA25305 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 08:35:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gadwell.nap.net.noname (Gadwell.nap.net [206.54.224.5]) by Bluebill.nap.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA18122 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:34:11 -0500 Received: from gadwell ([127.0.0.1]) by gadwell.nap.net.noname (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28016; Mon, 17 Jun 96 10:31:12 CDT Message-Id: <31C57A40.41C67EA6@inap.net> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:31:12 -0500 From: Operator X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.4 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Memory restrictions X-Url: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am running FreeBSD version 2.1.0 Release...The machine has 128MB ram...when the machine boots the memory is physically present yet the operating system does not seem to see it... My question is...Does FreeBSD have a memory limitation...or am I missing something...? Thank you... Brian J. Schmidt From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 08:50:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA02408 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 08:50:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from net1.netview.net ([199.3.74.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA02388 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 08:50:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from corona (corona.netview.net [206.223.98.2]) by net1.netview.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA03236 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:50:37 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:50:37 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960617105211.0095d24c@netview.net> X-Sender: jrclark@netview.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: John Clark Subject: SUP Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello all, I was reading the FreeBSD handbook, wanting to move my 2.1 system to 2.1 stable. Here is what I found: >>Starting with FreeBSD 2.1, sup is supplied as part of the base >>system and no separate installation is required. Ok, so I got the 2.1 stable "supfile" and typed: "sup supfile" Upon which, it failed because there is no sup on my system. Can someone tell me where to get sup? John Clark [jrclark@netview.net] From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 08:55:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA05933 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 08:55:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.tcac.com (odin.tcac.com [198.170.8.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA05855 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 08:55:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conr-ara1-a10.tcac.com (conr-ara1-a10.tcac.com [198.170.10.10]) by odin.tcac.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id KAA54436 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:59:20 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:59:20 -0500 Message-Id: <199606171559.KAA54436@odin.tcac.com> X-Sender: mikeb@postoffice.tcac.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: mikeb@tcac.com (Paul Michael Babuchna) Subject: quick advise. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have been recently downloading BSD 2.1 from: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE/bin and have run into a problem. I cannot download bin.au. I get an error message of the form- this sound file is corrupt or a file of incompatible format. Using Win95 and Win 3.1 and IE2.1. Thanks for your time, Mike Babuchna mikeb@postoffice.tcac.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 09:02:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA10012 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:02:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Kryten.nina.com (dyn049-gnv.51.fdt.net [205.229.51.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA10007 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:02:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from frankd@localhost) by Kryten.nina.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id MAA21628; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:00:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:00:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Frank Seltzer X-Sender: frankd@Kryten.nina.com To: "Brett L. Nordby" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question In-Reply-To: <199606171523.KAA32711@bubba.webinnovators.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 17 Jun 1996, Brett L. Nordby wrote: > Hi! > > Sorry to bother you with a question, but I need help. > > Could you please point me to documentation showing me how to schedule a cron job? I'm afraid I lost my FreeBSD book, and the man pages say nothing of the format. > man 5 crontab will give you the syntax and format of the entries. > Thanks! > Brett L. Nordby > Frank -- Only in America can a homeless veteran sleep in a cardboard box while a draft dodger sleeps in the White House. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 09:13:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA10571 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:13:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from refuge.Colorado.EDU (root@refuge.Colorado.EDU [128.138.238.60]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA10565 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:13:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from refuge.Colorado.EDU (jorgy@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by refuge.Colorado.EDU (8.7.5/8.6.12/UnixOps/Hesiod/(SDM)) with ESMTP id KAA11354 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:13:10 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199606171613.KAA11354@refuge.Colorado.EDU> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: installing 2.1.0-RELEASE with WD8013EPC ethernet card - again Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:13:09 -0600 From: "Eric R. Jorgensen" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I sent the following message a while ago, but haven't heard anything on the list about it. I suspect that people think that I'm doing something wrong that's trivial. However, I'm sure that I've set the configuration correctly for the card (IP address, nameserver, netmask, etc.) correctly (I've been running ifconfig for 8 years), and I know that the card worked just fine with Win 95%, so it's not a card/cable problem. The odd thing is that it says that "Network initialized correctly" but then conks out. Thanks for any help, Eric ------- Forwarded Message To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: problems installing 2.1.0-RELEASE with WD8013EPC ethernet card Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 12:53:36 -0600 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Hello, I'm trying to get FreeBSD going on an HP Vectra P100 with an WD8013EPC ethernet card. I'm doing an ftp install, but it conks out when trying to do the actual ftp. >From the ALT-F2 debugging output: DEBUG: init routine called for device ed1 hostname: not found add net default: gateway xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx DEBUG: Network initialized correctly ed1: device timeout ed1: device timeout ed1: device timeout If you need more information to figure this one out, let me know. (This machine was running Windows '95 and the ethernet was working fine.) Thanks in advance, Eric ------- End of Forwarded Message From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 09:14:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA10660 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:14:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freenet.hamilton.on.ca (main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA10651 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.66]) by freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA06789; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:14:08 -0400 Received: (ac199@localhost) by james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA12177; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:15:39 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:15:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek To: "Brett L. Nordby" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question In-Reply-To: <199606171523.KAA32711@bubba.webinnovators.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 17 Jun 1996, Brett L. Nordby wrote: > Hi! > > Sorry to bother you with a question, but I need help. Could > you please point me to documentation showing me how to schedule a cron > job? I'm afraid I lost my FreeBSD book, and the man pages say nothing of > the format. `man 5 crontab' explains it much better than I ever could! :) The stuff currently scheduled for cron is kept in /etc/crontab (whose file-format is described by the above manpage). Also have a look at `man 1 at', which may be able to do what you want, too. (Note that `/usr/libexec/atrun' entry in /etc/crontab). -- Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! tIM...HOEk From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 09:25:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA11362 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:25:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freenet.hamilton.on.ca (main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA11347 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:25:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.66]) by freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA07206; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:25:31 -0400 Received: (ac199@localhost) by james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA13769; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:27:00 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:26:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek To: Paul Michael Babuchna cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: quick advise. In-Reply-To: <199606171559.KAA54436@odin.tcac.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 17 Jun 1996, Paul Michael Babuchna wrote: > I have been recently downloading BSD 2.1 from: > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE/bin > > and have run into a problem. I cannot download bin.au. I get an error > message of the form- this sound file is corrupt or a file of incompatible > format. Using Win95 and Win 3.1 and IE2.1. First, make sure you have read the various bits of literature on installing (something in the handbook at http://www.freebsd.org, and some other small files in the ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE directory). You may likely find it easier to do an ftp install. The reason for your error is simple -- netscape (correctly) assumes the .au extension designates an audio file, which is correct most of the time. This is similar to the problem where lynx, when downloading *.flp, or bin.??, doesn't change to binary mode and downloads them as text. I think you can force Netscape to save bin.au as a file by right-clicking on the like. The easiest solution, though, is download use the on-the-fly tar & zipping capabilities of ftp.freebsd.org. Give netscape the following url: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE/bin.tar.gz and it should download all the bin directory in one big tar.gz file. Then, just rename this to bin.tgz and put it into the appropriate directory. -- Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! tIM...HOEk From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 09:26:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA11414 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:26:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from typhoon.dial.pipex.net (typhoon.dial.pipex.net [158.43.128.46]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA11407 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:26:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown by typhoon.dial.pipex.net (8.7.4/) id RAA01121; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 17:26:30 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: Priority: Normal To: questions@freebsd.org Cc: jn83@dial.pipex.com MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Paul Woods Subject: Uk suppliers of free bsd Date: Mon, 17 Jun 96 05:26:56 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Please could you send us details of any UK distributors of the FreeBSD UNIX O.S. If there aren't any could you send us details of any other European or US suppliers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 09:30:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA11751 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freenet.hamilton.on.ca (main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA11739 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:30:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.66]) by freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA07427; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:30:18 -0400 Received: (ac199@localhost) by james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA14417; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:31:48 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:31:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek To: Paul Michael Babuchna , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: quick advise. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 17 Jun 1996, Tim Vanderhoek wrote: > > I have been recently downloading BSD 2.1 from: > > > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE/bin > > > > and have run into a problem. I cannot download bin.au. I get an error > > message of the form- this sound file is corrupt or a file of incompatible > > format. Using Win95 and Win 3.1 and IE2.1. Oh, wait! IE2.1... Does that stand for Internet Explorer... Ok, all the below still stands... You should be able to feed Internet Explorer the url and expect it to work (on the other hand, it is Microsoft...). Since you have Windows 95, you can also use it's `ftp' command. Just type in `ftp' at the DOS prompt, and feel your way around from there. Probably something like `get /pub/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE/bin.tar.gz' would do the trick. -- > > First, make sure you have read the various bits of literature on > installing (something in the handbook at http://www.freebsd.org, and some > other small files in the ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE > directory). > > You may likely find it easier to do an ftp install. > > The reason for your error is simple -- netscape (correctly) assumes the > .au extension designates an audio file, which is correct most of the > time. This is similar to the problem where lynx, when downloading *.flp, > or bin.??, doesn't change to binary mode and downloads them as text. > > I think you can force Netscape to save bin.au as a file by right-clicking > on the like. The easiest solution, though, is download use the > on-the-fly tar & zipping capabilities of ftp.freebsd.org. Give netscape > the following url: > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE/bin.tar.gz > > and it should download all the bin directory in one big tar.gz file. > Then, just rename this to bin.tgz and put it into the appropriate > directory. > > > -- > Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! > tIM...HOEk > > -- Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! tIM...HOEk From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 09:34:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA11969 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:34:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Kryten.nina.com (dyn049-gnv.51.fdt.net [205.229.51.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA11964 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:34:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from frankd@localhost) by Kryten.nina.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id MAA21926; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:32:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:32:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Frank Seltzer X-Sender: frankd@Kryten.nina.com To: Paul Michael Babuchna cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: quick advise. In-Reply-To: <199606171559.KAA54436@odin.tcac.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 17 Jun 1996, Paul Michael Babuchna wrote: > I have been recently downloading BSD 2.1 from: > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE/bin > > and have run into a problem. I cannot download bin.au. I get an error > > message of the form- this sound file is corrupt or a file of incompatible > > format. Using Win95 and Win 3.1 and IE2.1. > > Thanks for your time, > > Mike Babuchna > > mikeb@postoffice.tcac.com It looks like you are trying to d/l it using Netscape. Netscape sees a file with a .au suffix as a sound file. Try using SHIFT-mouse click to get the download dialog box and tell it where to save the file Frank PS. I just reread your message and saw that you are using M$ InternetExplorer :-) The same solution applies, however. Frank -- Only in America can a homeless veteran sleep in a cardboard box while a draft dodger sleeps in the White House. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 09:39:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA12227 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:39:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from garion.hq.ferg.com (pm1-24.wmbg.widomaker.com [204.17.220.124]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA12221 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:39:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.hq.ferg.com (localhost.hq.ferg.com [127.0.0.1]) by garion.hq.ferg.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA00467; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:40:07 -0400 Message-Id: <199606171640.MAA00467@garion.hq.ferg.com> X-Authentication-Warning: garion.hq.ferg.com: Host localhost.hq.ferg.com didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 5/3/96 From: Branson Matheson To: "Eric R. Jorgensen" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installing 2.1.0-RELEASE with WD8013EPC ethernet card - again In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:13:09 MDT." <199606171613.KAA11354@refuge.Colorado.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:40:07 -0400 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Eric R. Jorgensen" uttered with conviction: > >Hello, > >I sent the following message a while ago, but haven't heard anything >on the list about it. I suspect that people think that I'm doing >something wrong that's trivial. However, I'm sure that I've >set the configuration correctly for the card (IP address, nameserver, >netmask, etc.) correctly (I've been running ifconfig for 8 years), and >I know that the card worked just fine with Win 95%, so it's not a >card/cable problem. > It looks to me like you have the wrong IRQ.. or a conflict. I have an HP vectra here at work with a 3Com card... and it works fine... There is a BIOS setting to disable the on board ethernet .. make sure that you have turned it off... >The odd thing is that it says that "Network initialized correctly" >but then conks out. Verify that the irq displayed in the bootup messages is the same as the one that you have configured for your hardware,. -branson ============================================================================= Branson Matheson | Ferguson Enterprises | If Pete and Repeat were System Administrator | W: (804) 874-7795 | sittin on a fence and Pete Unix, Perl, WWW | branson@widomaker.com | fell off, who is left? ============================================================================= Branson Matheson | Ferguson Enterprises | If Pete and Repeat were System Administrator | W: (804) 874-7795 | sittin on a fence and Pete Unix, Perl, WWW | branson@widomaker.com | fell off, who is left? From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 09:43:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA12522 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:43:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from net1.netview.net ([199.3.74.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA12516 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:43:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from corona (corona.netview.net [206.223.98.2]) by net1.netview.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA03336 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 11:43:45 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 11:43:45 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960617114519.0094a3cc@netview.net> X-Sender: jrclark@netview.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: John Clark Subject: sup setup Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I am trying to upgrade my system to 2.1-stable. I have ftp'ed the entire "2.1-stable" source tree (src) down. How do I install it? >From the handbook: ------------------ Before compiling stable, read the Makefile in /usr/src carefully. You should at least run a `make world' the first time through as part of the upgrading process. Reading freebsd-stable will keep you up-to-date on other bootstrapping procedures that sometimes become necessary as we move towards the next release. >From this, I assume the following: 1) rename /usr/src to /usr/src.old 2) unpack the src tree to /usr/src The stable sources are now in place... 3) cd /usr/src 4) make world ; make all ; make install ; make clean 5) reboot, and pray to whatever deity that consoles me that my system will come back up Thanks, John Clark [jrclark@netview.net] From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 09:50:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA13013 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:50:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA13008 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:50:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA13373; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 18:49:29 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <199606171649.SAA13373@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: installing 2.1.0-RELEASE with WD8013EPC ethernet card - again To: jorgy@refuge.Colorado.EDU (Eric R. Jorgensen) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 18:49:29 +0200 (SAT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606171613.KAA11354@refuge.Colorado.EDU> from "Eric R. Jorgensen" at "Jun 17, 96 10:13:09 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL16 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, "edx: device timeout" messages normally point to a hardware - software interrupt mismatch. Make sure that your hardware is where your software expect it, or tell your software where your hardware is. GENERIC FreeBSD kernels expect ed0 at io addr 0x280, irq 5 and mem 0xd800. If you want to use ed1 it should be at io addr 0x300, irq 5 and mem 0xd800. If you would rather change FreeBSD, you can type '-c' at the boot prompt and set it to what your hardware is. John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za > > Hello, > > I sent the following message a while ago, but haven't heard anything > on the list about it. I suspect that people think that I'm doing > something wrong that's trivial. However, I'm sure that I've > set the configuration correctly for the card (IP address, nameserver, > netmask, etc.) correctly (I've been running ifconfig for 8 years), and > I know that the card worked just fine with Win 95%, so it's not a > card/cable problem. > > The odd thing is that it says that "Network initialized correctly" > but then conks out. > > Thanks for any help, > > Eric > > > > > ------- Forwarded Message > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: problems installing 2.1.0-RELEASE with WD8013EPC ethernet card > Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 12:53:36 -0600 > Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org > > > Hello, > > I'm trying to get FreeBSD going on an HP Vectra P100 with an WD8013EPC > ethernet card. I'm doing an ftp install, but it conks out when trying > to do the actual ftp. > > >From the ALT-F2 debugging output: > > DEBUG: init routine called for device ed1 > hostname: not found > add net default: gateway xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > DEBUG: Network initialized correctly > ed1: device timeout > ed1: device timeout > ed1: device timeout > > > If you need more information to figure this one out, let me know. > (This machine was running Windows '95 and the ethernet was working > fine.) > > Thanks in advance, > > Eric > > > > ------- End of Forwarded Message > > From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 10:04:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA13680 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:04:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from galaxy.galstar.com (root@galaxy.galstar.com [204.251.80.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA13674 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:04:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from star09118.galstar.com (star09118.galstar.com [204.251.91.18]) by galaxy.galstar.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA04602 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:04:11 -0500 Message-Id: <199606171704.MAA04602@galaxy.galstar.com> From: "Ed Mullins" To: Subject: FreeBSD installation.. Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:03:54 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1080 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In the FreeBSD install (using the boot.flp image, and attempting to install via anonymous FTP), when it starts comitting, when it gets to the "Doing newfs ......." info. dialog, it will start lightly accessing the hard drive every 5 seconds, and continue doing this forever. I let it run for over 4-5 hours, and it was still doing the same thing. I've tryed with 2.1.0, and 2.2-061296. I've tryed my letting it use my entire HD, and tryed just letting it use half of it, and letting Win95 use the other half. It's a Western Digital 540 MB IDE drive, the system is a 486SX2/50, and I have 8 megs of RAM. Have any solutions? Thanks. Ed Mullins From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 10:10:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA14006 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:10:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from juris.prdf.mpf.gov.br ([200.130.34.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA14001 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:10:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from luthor@localhost) by juris.prdf.mpf.gov.br (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA04409; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:13:07 -0300 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:13:07 -0300 (EST) From: Alex Carlos Braga Antao To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Paradise Bali 32 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Somebody here knows if there's a driver for the video card Paradise Bali 32 for XFree ? Or another compatible ? Thanks, -- _________________________________ _________________________ / Alex Carlos Braga Antao \ /_ __ \ | UnB - Universidade de Brasilia | // ...on IRC | | | // ____ | | e-mail : luthor@prdf.mpf.gov.br | // / _/________ | | http://www.linf.unb.br/~e9203125 | /____ /_/ / /) (_) / | \_________________________________/ \_______It's me !_________/ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 10:47:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA15931 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:47:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mother.cdrom.com (mother.cdrom.com [204.216.28.172]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA15921 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:47:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (support@localhost) by mother.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA03588 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:47:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:47:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Jamil Weatherbee To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Setting up Accounting and PPP (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Technical Support Walnut Creek CDROM ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 04:17:33 -0500 From: Richard Collins To: Jamil Weatherbee Subject: Re: Setting up Accounting and PPP Jamil Weatherbee wrote: > > On Mon, 10 Jun 1996, Richard Collins wrote: > > Are you talking about linux or freeBSD > > > Hi, > > How do you set up the accounting system. I would like to setup various > > accounts for time tracking proposes, I have already have created the > > /var/account/acct file with vi and use accton /var/account/acct to make > > it active. Now the the PPP thing my modem is setup on COM 3, I have > > been able to login to my server but the PPP will not stay up under X. > > One more thing when I use X it never dies until I type exit at the login > > window and then if I try to restart X my mouse does not work anymore > > till I do a shutdown -r now command. Any Idea? > > > > Thanks > > Richard Collins > > rcollins@brutus.datastar.net > > > > Technical Support > Walnut Creek CDROM I am using FreeBSD 2.1 and have tried 2.2 and for some reason I can't run X. It can't find Xmu, I then do a ldconfig /usr/X11R6/lib and then it can't find libc. What am I doing wrong? I have been able to get part of the accounting up but "ac" shows 0:00 and this is after I do a make world. Thanks Again Richard Collins rcollins@brutus.datastar.net From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 10:48:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA16064 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:48:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA16046; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:48:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA08131; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:46:02 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606171746.KAA08131@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: defrags To: fqueries@jraynard.demon.co.uk (James Raynard) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:46:02 -0700 (MST) Cc: gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG, valtech@caribnet.net, terry@lambert.org, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199606162333.XAA00571@jraynard.demon.co.uk> from "James Raynard" at Jun 16, 96 11:33:50 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > This is because you are using more disk space, no doubt ... I REALLY > > wouldn't worry. I think you are getting confused between DOS > > fragmentation and FFS fragmentation ... > > It's unfortunate that they use the same word is used for rather > different things. > > DOS fragmentation means that a file is split into parts because DOS > wasn't intelligent enough to work out how to write it as a single, > contiguous file. > > FFS fragmentation means that, instead of being wasted, unused space in > a block is used for storing small files, which would otherwise need a > block of their own and waste even more space. Let's look at an > example:- [ ... example and picture ... ] Thanks James; I should have thought of a picture, since I guess I'm known for them ;-). I hope you don't mind that I'm going to steal this for future use... Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 11:05:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA16623 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 11:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.rwth-aachen.de (mail.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA16618 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 11:05:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de) by mail.rwth-aachen.de (PMDF V5.0-4 #13110) id <01I60XJCRNFK002HG3@mail.rwth-aachen.de>; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 18:49:53 +0100 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA06850; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 18:58:28 +0200 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 18:58:27 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Subject: Re: installing 2.1.0-RELEASE with WD8013EPC ethernet card - again In-reply-to: <199606171613.KAA11354@refuge.Colorado.EDU> To: jorgy@refuge.Colorado.EDU (Eric R. Jorgensen) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-to: Christoph Kukulies Message-id: <199606171658.SAA06850@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL16 (25)] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Hello, > > I sent the following message a while ago, but haven't heard anything > on the list about it. I suspect that people think that I'm doing > something wrong that's trivial. However, I'm sure that I've > set the configuration correctly for the card (IP address, nameserver, > netmask, etc.) correctly (I've been running ifconfig for 8 years), and > I know that the card worked just fine with Win 95%, so it's not a > card/cable problem. > > The odd thing is that it says that "Network initialized correctly" > but then conks out. > > Thanks for any help, > > Eric > > > > > ------- Forwarded Message > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: problems installing 2.1.0-RELEASE with WD8013EPC ethernet card > Date: Wed, 22 May 1996 12:53:36 -0600 > Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org > > > Hello, > > I'm trying to get FreeBSD going on an HP Vectra P100 with an WD8013EPC > ethernet card. I'm doing an ftp install, but it conks out when trying > to do the actual ftp. > > >From the ALT-F2 debugging output: > > DEBUG: init routine called for device ed1 > hostname: not found > add net default: gateway xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > DEBUG: Network initialized correctly > ed1: device timeout > ed1: device timeout > ed1: device timeout Did you configure the WD8013EOC correctly? Especially, what irq is it configured to? Afaik, one combination is 0x300/10, another may be 0x280/3 (the latter not being very friendly as irq 3 is also sio1 irq.). I'd suggest make sure what io/irq/iomem it is set to and then I'd type at the Boot: prompt kernel -c to configure to kernel to the actual card's parameters. > > > If you need more information to figure this one out, let me know. > (This machine was running Windows '95 and the ethernet was working > fine.) > > Thanks in advance, > > Eric > > > > ------- End of Forwarded Message > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 11:17:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA17086 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 11:17:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from only.justcompute.com ([208.128.131.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA17081 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 11:17:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BBS.justcompute.com (bbs.justcompute.com [208.128.131.2]) by only.justcompute.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA09150 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:20:25 -0400 Message-Id: <199606171820.OAA09150@only.justcompute.com> Received: from [208.128.131.109] by BBS.justcompute.com id 72030.wrk; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:16:06 EDT From: "Chris Lavin" To: Subject: Wierdo situation!! Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:12:43 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1085 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to do something Kinda weird!!!!!! I am basically trying to use four modems on my BSD machine as basically com server ports. I want the BSSD machine to answer the modem establish a connection then automatically telnet the user to aremote system. I DON'T want it to ask for a login or ever show a login prompt!! Anyone have any ideas? Thanx Chris From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 11:31:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA17679 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 11:31:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA17674 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 11:31:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by agora.rdrop.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #17) id m0uVj56-0008woC; Mon, 17 Jun 96 11:31 PDT Message-Id: From: batie@agora.rdrop.com (Alan Batie) Subject: WD8013 configuration To: jorgy@refuge.Colorado.EDU Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 11:31:20 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > From: "Eric R. Jorgensen" > Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:13:09 -0600 > Subject: installing 2.1.0-RELEASE with WD8013EPC ethernet card - again > > ed1: device timeout The problem is that it's running in 8-bit mode and needs to be in 16-bit mode. It might also not be using the proper memory size. When you boot from floppy, type "-c" immediately at the boot prompt. When it goes into configure mode, type the following: iosize ed1 16384 flags ed1 4 then do an "ls" and make sure the IRQ, memory and I/O addresses match; you can change the configuration similarly, although they default to IRQ 5, I/O 0x280 and Memory at 0xd8000. The "flags" command is the critical one. You'll have to do this every time you boot from floppy, and the first time you boot from hard disk. You should build a new kernel with the proper configuration or the next time you build one for another reason, it will get reset and you'll have forgotten why your network stopped working. -- Alan Batie ______ We're Starfleet officers: batie@agora.rdrop.com \ / Weird is part of the job. +1 503 452-0960 \ / --Captain Janeway DE 3C 29 17 C0 49 7A 27 \/ 40 A5 3C 37 4A DA 52 B9 It is my policy to avoid purchase of any products from companies which use unrequested email advertisements or telephone solicitation. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 11:32:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA17753 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 11:32:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mother.cdrom.com (mother.cdrom.com [204.216.28.172]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA17748 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 11:32:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (support@localhost) by mother.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA03889 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 11:32:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 11:32:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Jamil Weatherbee To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: open look graphics shared library (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Technical Support Walnut Creek CDROM ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 06:43:53 -0700 From: "Leonard W. Edmondson" To: support@cdrom.com Subject: open look graphics shared library Hello, I bought your FreeBSD CDROM. It's great! I love unix. It's running fine on my intel box. I use the open look virtual window manager at work on linux and I like it a lot. I downloaded the olvwm binary. When I run it, the following message is presented: ld.so: olvwm: Can't find shared library "libolgx.so.3.2" I feel I've done some serious searching, and I have not yet been able to find this shared library binary or source. I assume it stands for open look graphics. Can you help? Thank you, Leonard From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 11:44:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA18543 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 11:44:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from garion.hq.ferg.com (pm1-24.wmbg.widomaker.com [204.17.220.124]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA18538 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 11:44:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.hq.ferg.com (localhost.hq.ferg.com [127.0.0.1]) by garion.hq.ferg.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA01729; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:44:43 -0400 Message-Id: <199606171844.OAA01729@garion.hq.ferg.com> X-Authentication-Warning: garion.hq.ferg.com: Host localhost.hq.ferg.com didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 5/3/96 From: Branson Matheson To: "Chris Lavin" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wierdo situation!! In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:12:43 EDT." <199606171820.OAA09150@only.justcompute.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:44:41 -0400 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -------- "Chris Lavin" uttered with conviction: >I am trying to do something Kinda weird!!!!!! I am basically trying to use >four modems on my BSD machine as basically com server ports. I want the >BSSD machine to answer the modem establish a connection then automatically >telnet the user to aremote system. I DON'T want it to ask for a login or >ever show a login prompt!! Anyone have any ideas? Sure... however insecure it may be.... you can replace the ttyd1 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" unknown off secure in /etc/ttys with ttyd1 "/usr/bin/telnet {othermachine}" unknown on secure They _WILL_ see a login from the other machine... and the security implications of using a rsh to accomplish this as init runs as root are tooo scary. -branson ============================================================================= Branson Matheson | Ferguson Enterprises | If Pete and Repeat were System Administrator | W: (804) 874-7795 | sittin on a fence and Pete Unix, Perl, WWW | branson@widomaker.com | fell off, who is left? From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 11:51:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA19067 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 11:51:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA19060 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 11:51:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA02726; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:51:34 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:51:34 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9606171851.AA02726@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Branson Matheson Cc: "Chris Lavin" , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wierdo situation!! In-Reply-To: <199606171844.OAA01729@garion.hq.ferg.com> References: <199606171820.OAA09150@only.justcompute.com> <199606171844.OAA01729@garion.hq.ferg.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > in /etc/ttys with > ttyd1 "/usr/bin/telnet {othermachine}" unknown on secure > They _WILL_ see a login from the other machine... and the security > implications of using a rsh to accomplish this as init runs as root are tooo > scary. The security implications of allowing random users to get a root shell on the gateway machine by typing `C-] ! RET' are even scarier... -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 12:01:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA19662 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:01:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA19656 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:01:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Root.COM (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA00253; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:00:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606171900.MAA00253@Root.COM> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.Root.COM: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Operator cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Memory restrictions In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:31:12 CDT." <31C57A40.41C67EA6@inap.net> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:00:23 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I am running FreeBSD version 2.1.0 Release...The machine has 128MB >ram...when the machine boots the memory is physically present yet the >operating system does not seem to see it... >My question is...Does FreeBSD have a memory limitation...or am I missing >something...? Add: options "MAXMEM=131072" To your kernel config file. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 12:08:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA20097 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:08:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mother.cdrom.com (mother.cdrom.com [204.216.28.172]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA20076 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:07:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (support@localhost) by mother.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA04029 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:07:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:07:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Jamil Weatherbee To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Is FreeBSD work on 586 system? (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Technical Support Walnut Creek CDROM ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 18:11:34 -0500 From: shinjiro nojima To: info@cdrom.com Subject: Is FreeBSD work on 586 system? Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 02:56:32 -0700 Resent-From: Order Information Resent-To: support@cdrom.com Is FreeBSD work on 586 system? I'm thinking to use Linux with 100mhz 586 dos card installed on Mac. Thank you for advance -- Shinjiro Nojima NOYO Systems & Design, Inc. noyo@walrus.com. http://www.walrus.com/~noyo 307 East 44th Room 722 New York NY 10017 212-697-3609 212-867-7383 fax * * \ / Please visit our Web page and download Internet information organizing and publishing tool. / \ * * From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 12:19:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA20639 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:19:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA20634 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:19:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by ref.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA19456 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:18:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Root.COM (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA00313; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:14:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606171914.MAA00313@Root.COM> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.Root.COM: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: batie@agora.rdrop.com (Alan Batie) cc: jorgy@refuge.Colorado.EDU, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: WD8013 configuration In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 Jun 1996 11:31:20 PDT." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:14:03 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> From: "Eric R. Jorgensen" >> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:13:09 -0600 >> Subject: installing 2.1.0-RELEASE with WD8013EPC ethernet card - again >> >> ed1: device timeout > >The problem is that it's running in 8-bit mode and needs to be in 16-bit >mode. It might also not be using the proper memory size. When you boot >from floppy, type "-c" immediately at the boot prompt. When it goes into >configure mode, type the following: > >iosize ed1 16384 >flags ed1 4 > >then do an "ls" and make sure the IRQ, memory and I/O addresses match; you >can change the configuration similarly, although they default to IRQ 5, >I/O 0x280 and Memory at 0xd8000. > >The "flags" command is the critical one. You'll have to do this every time >you boot from floppy, and the first time you boot from hard disk. You should >build a new kernel with the proper configuration or the next time you build >one for another reason, it will get reset and you'll have forgotten why your >network stopped working. If he's got a real WD8013EPC, then it should recognize that it's a 16bit card and set it appropriately - flags 4 won't be needed. The flags thing is only needed for cards that claim to be 8bit but are really 16bit (like the Compex). As you and several others have pointed out, the problem is likely caused by an irq mismatch or conflict - especially since it passes the shared memory test (which is a good indicator that the shared memory address is okay). -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 12:23:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA20897 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:23:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prop (prop.caribnet.net [205.214.195.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA20889 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:23:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 15:23:23 -0400 (AST) From: Sean Batson X-Sender: valtech@PPP20.sunbeach.net To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Offical Release of 2.2 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk When is the offical release of FreeBSD 2.2? The reason why I'm asking, I have been with out my cd-rom for quite sometime.. Sean.. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 12:28:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA21223 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vitro.bloomington.in.us (netmanager.vitro.bloomington.in.us [206.97.65.43]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA21186 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:28:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netmanager.vitro.bloomington.in.us (craig.vitro.bloomington.in.us) by vitro.bloomington.in.us (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18207; Mon, 17 Jun 96 14:27:31 EST Message-Id: <31C5A30F.1517@vitro.bloomington.in.us> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:25:19 -0400 From: Craig Harvey Organization: Vitro, Bloomington X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Troubles with hd X-Url: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm getting an error 'no disk found' during the assign partition portion of the installation process. The boot scan finds a controller and a disk, but when the install program starts it reports no disks. I used the -c switch to clear configuration confilicts but that hasn't helped. Is there a probe utility available to do any more testing? Any other paths to try. The HA is a Adaptec AHA-1522a and the disk is a Seagate 2383N Thanks Craig From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 13:15:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA24913 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 13:15:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aeffle.Stanford.EDU (sequence.Stanford.EDU [171.65.76.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA24908 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 13:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by aeffle.Stanford.EDU; id AA02974; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 13:15:34 -0700 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 13:15:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Howard Lew To: Flavio Sa Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Windows 95 In-Reply-To: <199606162214.TAA01111@berimbau.interligue.com.br> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, Flavio Sa wrote: > > Can Windows 95 and Free BSD share a computer? > > Should I follow the install.txt intructions considering DOS? > > Thanks, > Not a new questions.... That setup should be fine. A boot manager should take care of the problem.... backup your data first. ---- || Shoppers Network BEST PRICES, FULLY x86 COMPATIBLE & FAST!!! || PO BOX 16627 Cyrix 686s now available! || San Francisco, CA 94116 Email - info@shoppersnet.com | ------------------------------> WWW - http://www2.shoppersnet.com -------------------------------> WWW - http://www.shoppersnet.com/shopping From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 13:20:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA25380 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 13:20:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA25373 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 13:20:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id NAA26830 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 13:20:12 -0700 Received: from gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com ([13.231.132.20]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <16226(12)>; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 13:18:22 PDT Received: from gnu.mc.xerox.com (gnu.sdsp.mc.xerox.com) by gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-TB) id AA07789; Mon, 17 Jun 96 16:17:50 EDT Received: by gnu.mc.xerox.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19451; Mon, 17 Jun 96 16:17:49 EDT Message-Id: <9606172017.AA19451@gnu.mc.xerox.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.6 3/24/96 To: Oliver Oberdorf Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD SCSI CD-changer question In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 13 Jun 1996 08:56:12 PDT." <31C03A1C.30B8@head-cfa.harvard.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 13:17:48 PDT From: "Marty Leisner" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'd like to see an answer about cd-rom changers... The kernel appears to autodetect them (its scsi)...how do I use them... (I was able to use a changer in December with 2.1, I don't remember what I did). It would help enormously if the process was documented... I'm trying to use a Pioneer 624 now (I recall a NEC worked). The Pioneer causes problems/panics with Linux's 1522 driver. -- marty leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com Member of the League for Programming Freedom From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 13:35:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA26495 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 13:35:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from martin.luther.edu (martin.luther.edu [192.203.196.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA26468 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 13:35:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by martin.luther.edu with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27634; Mon, 17 Jun 96 15:40:34 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 15:40:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Benjamin Tomhave To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: listserv/upgrade Q's Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! I have two questions. I've looked on the archives in the past and I've read the documentation in the past, but it is quite likely I missed something which you can point me to, or tell me point-blank. First, is there a listserver available (for free) that has been successfully ported to FreeBSD? Such as majordomo or something equally functional.....if not, I will work on porting majordomo (which has been ported for Linux) and then make the source available. Second, I tried to upgrade from 2.1-RELEASE to the May SNAP release about 6 weeks ago and ended up having to totally reinstall the OS. Now, although there was nothing really lost, it was rather frustrating to have to reinstall everything. Is there a step-by-step guide to doing a SNAP upgrade somewhere? I'm not new to UN*X, but I am fairly new to FreeBSD. Especially the idea of manually upgrading the system (versus an autoinstall-type front-end). This doesn't bother me, but it does mean that I need a little more detailed instructions on what needs to be done when upgrading the OS. Thanks for your time and assistance. Sincerely, -ben -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Benjamin Tomhave | Shell to DOS...Come in DOS...Do you Copy? Luther College | Decorah, IA 52101 | $ rm * .* "Hey, where'd everything go? tomhavbe@martin.luther.edu | | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 14:19:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA00199 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:19:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA00192 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA08630; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:17:03 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606172117.OAA08630@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: NT ported? To: lada@ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at (Hr.Ladavac) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:17:03 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, tomhavbe@martin.luther.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606140730.AA122747421@ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at> from "Hr.Ladavac" at Jun 14, 96 09:30:21 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > FreeBSD is an operating system. So is NetBSD. They are not applications > > which can run under NT, any more than NT runs under another operating > > system. > > Strictly speaking, it might be possible to make a FreeBSD "personality > module" for NT, but who would want that. Anyone who had used the NT "personality module" on NT? 8-) 8-). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 14:31:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA00827 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:31:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA00819 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:31:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA08654; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:29:17 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606172129.OAA08654@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Rlogin delay To: dbabler@Rigel.orionsys.com (Dave Babler) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:29:17 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Dave Babler" at Jun 14, 96 12:29:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I've observed something concerning rlogin that is a bit odd to me, and > increasingly annoying for my users. When a user logs off and then tries > to re-log within a reasonable delay from another machine on the local > network, the login will be ingored for a very long time (10-60 seconds > seems typical). I checked the /etc/inetd.conf to make sure it was okay: [ ... ] > ---- connection active, test is from port 1022 ---- > Active Internet connections > Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address (state) > tcp 0 0 rigel.login orionsys.com.1022 ESTABLISHED > ---- 1022 just logged off ---- > tcp 0 0 rigel.login orionsys.com.1022 TIME_WAIT > ---- finally gone! over 60 seconds later ---- Did you turn on the global SO_KEEPALIVE that everyone was talking about? People who wanted this were MUD people and similar sites, without regard for the impact on things that didn't expect it to be on. This would be a natural side effect of the thing having data to drain that your client didn't wait for because of the disconnect on the OOB. This is really a problem with setting SO_KEEPALIVE, not with rlogin. If you want it to operate correctly, you would need to delay the OOB disconnect for the flush interval for the non-OOB data (or add a "disconnect ack wait" to the server and a "disconnect ack" to the client. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 14:34:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA00987 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA00981 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:34:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA08671; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:33:02 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606172133.OAA08671@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: PS/Valuepoint and keyboard hang on install To: aarond@btc.adaptec.com (Aaron Dailey) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:33:02 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199606142314.RAA28331@btc.btc.adaptec.com> from "Aaron Dailey" at Jun 14, 96 05:14:55 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 2.1 Release on an IBM PS/Valuepoint > 6384, and get a keyboard lock once everything boots. I saw a > similar question in the mailing list database, but never saw a > resolution, and email bounces when I try to ask the person that sent > it. 1) Disable the psm driver initially boot -c visual 2) Install will now work 3) Build a new kernel, with the option line: # Options for psm: options PSM_NO_RESET #don't reset mouse hardware (some laptops) 4) Install the kernel, and reboot. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 14:41:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA01481 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:41:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA01469 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:41:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA08686; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:39:57 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606172139.OAA08686@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: sendmail To: tcg@ime.net Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:39:57 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31C269BB.F79@ime.net> from "Gary Chrysler" at Jun 15, 96 03:43:55 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm trying to figure out how to setup my FreeBSD 2.1r box > as a mail server for my lan! (Amoungest other things :) > > Is sendmail the proper tool for this! > I've read the man page and Nemeth but I can't seem to make it work! > At least from Winbloze stations. Only os I have to send tests > from! > I really can't elaborate with error messages as Winbloze is to > stupid to give details! > It just tells me: > Cannot connect to xxx, make sure your account info is accurate. > > On the FBSD box: > ``user@localhost`` works. > ``user@host.domain`` works > ``user@domain`` doesn't work. Produces errors in maillog that > say something about routes back to myself. Happens when the reverse lookup fails for a machine with alias names. May also happen if you don't have an MX record for the domain. May also happen if you have an MX record, but the sendmail doesn't have: Cwlocalhost domain DMdomain (all outgoing mail will appear to come from "domain"). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 14:47:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA02043 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:47:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA02011; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:47:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA08712; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:46:05 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606172146.OAA08712@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: amd (and CD-ROM's) To: wollman@lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:46:04 -0700 (MST) Cc: gpalmer@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9606152357.AA26925@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> from "Garrett Wollman" at Jun 15, 96 07:57:44 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > It would be nice to handle generic > > removable media actually, so you can run Iomega Zip & so on under > > AMD. > > It already does, perfectly well thank you very much, by not doing > anything at all. You write a map file describing what to mount and > where, and it does the appropriate thing. That is its only job. It > is not intended to sit there and buzz the drive every thirty seconds > to see if you've stuck something in there, like SGI's Workspace does; > if you want a program to do that, go write one. It doesn't belong in > amd. Agreed. Devices that allow you to change media, but which don't have media change indicators, make me want to hurl. (not to be confused with the "lignux" single server version of "hurd", also called "hurl"). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 14:57:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA03276 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:57:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twwells.com (twwells.com [199.79.159.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA03265 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:56:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by twwells.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uVmI3-0001ENC; Mon, 17 Jun 96 17:56 EDT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Subject: that slow transfer problem Date: 17 Jun 1996 17:56:53 -0400 Lines: 25 Message-ID: <4q4kb5$675@twwells.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.twwells.com Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Just to let people know: it's been solved. Replacing the old isa card with a shiny new pci card did the trick. It's funny: the first time I was bitten by this particular problem was like over a decade ago. You think I'd have spotted it right away! The problem isn't that the card was so slow that it couldn't transfer at the speeds I expected. Rather, the problem was that the card was mismatched with the network. If all my other cards had been the relatively slow card that I had in my machine, all would have been well. Transfers would have been slow, but not abysmally so. However, the news machine has a nice fast interface. And, it can drive that interface so quickly that it overwhelmed the old, slow interface on ux1. With most operations, that wasn't a problem; there was a relatively slow packet exchange and no overflow problem. But, try to transfer a big batch of data and the interface dropped packets like mad. Between the dropped packets *and* the load from retransmissions, that machine was reduced to moving data through the ethernet like it was a mere serial line. The moral is: keep your ethernet cards in sync. If you stick a fast card in one machine, make sure that all the others are capable of keeping up. Otherwise, you'll find your net looking more like a serial cable than an ethernet cable. :-) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 14:57:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA03351 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:57:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from net1.netview.net ([199.3.74.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA03339 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:57:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from corona (corona.netview.net [206.223.98.2]) by net1.netview.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA29847 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 16:57:24 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 16:57:24 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960617165857.0096c5a0@netview.net> X-Sender: jrclark@netview.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: John Clark Subject: warning: /usr/lib/libutil.so.2.0: ... Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Oh boy, now I have done it. I had FreeBSD v. 2.1, from Walnut Creek, installed on my system. I decided to upgrade to version 2.1-stable. Unable to use sup, I downloaded the entire 35 MB /usr/src tree. I simply typed "cd /usr/src" then "make world" -- beyond warnings, it seemed ok. The compile took 3 hours 15 minutes to complete! Now when I login, I get the following message: ld.so: warning: /usr/lib/libutil.so.2.0: minor version 0 older than expected 1, using it anyway What now? John Clark [jrclark@netview.net] From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 14:59:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA03482 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:59:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Rigel.orionsys.com (root@rigel.orionsys.com [205.148.224.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA03476 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dbabler@localhost) by Rigel.orionsys.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id OAA02593; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:57:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:57:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Babler To: Terry Lambert cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Rlogin delay In-Reply-To: <199606172129.OAA08654@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 17 Jun 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: > > I've observed something concerning rlogin that is a bit odd to me, and > > increasingly annoying for my users. When a user logs off and then tries > > to re-log within a reasonable delay from another machine on the local > > network, the login will be ingored for a very long time (10-60 seconds > > seems typical). I checked the /etc/inetd.conf to make sure it was okay: > > Did you turn on the global SO_KEEPALIVE that everyone was talking about? > People who wanted this were MUD people and similar sites, without regard > for the impact on things that didn't expect it to be on. > I basically installed/built whetever was the standard configuration (2.1-stable)... I also tried the -n option for rlogind in /etc/inetd.conf to no effect. The first couple of relog attempts usually work in a second or two - subsequently, the delays required get pretty long. > > This would be a natural side effect of the thing having data to drain > that your client didn't wait for because of the disconnect on the OOB. > > This is really a problem with setting SO_KEEPALIVE, not with rlogin. > > If you want it to operate correctly, you would need to delay the OOB > disconnect for the flush interval for the non-OOB data (or add a > "disconnect ack wait" to the server and a "disconnect ack" to the > client. > The client here is not modifiable at all, unfortunately, and may implement things less than perfectly (I've already found a problem with what it propogates as window size to FreeBSD's rlogind). -Dave Babler From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 15:23:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA05308 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 15:23:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kalypso.iqm.unicamp.br (kalypso.iqm.unicamp.br [143.106.13.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA05151 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 15:20:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from vazquez@localhost) by kalypso.iqm.unicamp.br (8.7.5/8.6.12/FreeBSD2.1) id TAA08118; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 19:13:50 GMT From: Pedro A M Vazquez Message-Id: <199606171913.TAA08118@kalypso.iqm.unicamp.br> Subject: Re: listserv/upgrade Q's To: tomhavbe@martin.luther.edu (Benjamin Tomhave) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 19:13:49 +0000 () Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Benjamin Tomhave" at Jun 17, 96 03:40:34 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Benjamin Tomhave said: > > > First, is there a listserver available (for free) that has been > successfully ported to FreeBSD? Such as majordomo or something equally > functional.....if not, I will work on porting majordomo (which has been > ported for Linux) and then make the source available. > Yes, there are 2 listservers available. You can choose from majordomo (which runs the FreeBSD lists) or listproc. Both seems to work well. We're using listproc on a P100 with 16M Ram to deliver about 108000 messages/day. Pedro From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 15:46:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA06444 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 15:46:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA06436 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 15:46:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA21939; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 15:43:51 -0700 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199606172243.PAA21939@MediaCity.com> Subject: Re: Rlogin delay To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 15:43:51 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606172129.OAA08654@phaeton.artisoft.com> from Terry Lambert at "Jun 17, 96 02:29:17 pm" Reply-To: brian@MediaCity.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I've observed something concerning rlogin that is a bit odd to me, and > > increasingly annoying for my users. When a user logs off and then tries > > to re-log within a reasonable delay from another machine on the local > > network, the login will be ingored for a very long time (10-60 seconds > > seems typical). I checked the /etc/inetd.conf to make sure it was okay: I've observed the following behavior between two FreeBSD of every version since 2.0.5 freebsd1# rsh freebsd2 ls -a ./ .cshrc .klogin .rhosts ../ .fvwmrc .login .xsession .Xdefaults .history .profile freebsd1# rsh freebsd2 ls -a (30 or so seconds later) Connection refused freebsd1# rsh freebsd2 ls -a ./ .cshrc .klogin .rhosts ../ .fvwmrc .login .xsession .Xdefaults .history .profile freebsd1# rsh freebsd2 ls -a (30 or so seconds later) Connection refused freebsd1# ... I run into similar behavior almost every day. The reason I hit it so much is that my answering machine (vgetty+zyxel) emails my voice mail messages to an account on a local ISP I work work. Then where I am with my laptop and telnet into the ISP system and under elm my voice mails appears. When I play one via metamail it is rsh'd to my laptop where it is played over the laptop's speaker. When I play the first voice mail of a session it works fine. If I play the next one without an intervening delay of about 1 minute I get the connection refused message. -- Brian Litzinger Powered by FreeBSD http[s]://www.mpress.com speakfree.mpress.com [use -t (GSM)] How to program in c++: // From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 15:51:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA06772 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 15:51:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA06767 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 15:51:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA08861; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 15:49:05 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606172249.PAA08861@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: smbprint (samba -> NT3.51) To: kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (Christoph P. Kukulies) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 15:49:04 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606170744.JAA05378@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> from "Christoph P. Kukulies" at Jun 17, 96 09:44:21 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Anyone gotten printing to NT printers via samba/smbprint working? > I had just to make the bitter experience that people on our network > were able doing this from linux while I failed doing it from FreeBSD > (and I' m fighting for a couple of days now with password/authentication > problems). I believe you *must* go to NT password based authentication. There's code for passing the NT-algorithm encrypted password over the wire. We had to enable it for the NT clients to be able to use the Samba shares (the principle is the same, though, going from BSD to the NT server). Are you running the right protocol level? I don't think it uses the right one in BSD, by default (ie: it's right for Win95, but not for NT). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 16:06:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA07658 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 16:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA07653 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 16:06:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA08961; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 16:02:46 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606172302.QAA08961@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Rlogin delay To: dbabler@Rigel.orionsys.com (Dave Babler) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 16:02:45 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Dave Babler" at Jun 17, 96 02:57:35 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > I've observed something concerning rlogin that is a bit odd to me, and > > > increasingly annoying for my users. When a user logs off and then tries > > > to re-log within a reasonable delay from another machine on the local > > > network, the login will be ingored for a very long time (10-60 seconds > > > seems typical). I checked the /etc/inetd.conf to make sure it was okay: > > > > Did you turn on the global SO_KEEPALIVE that everyone was talking about? > > People who wanted this were MUD people and similar sites, without regard > > for the impact on things that didn't expect it to be on. > > > I basically installed/built whetever was the standard configuration > (2.1-stable)... I also tried the -n option for rlogind in /etc/inetd.conf > to no effect. The first couple of relog attempts usually work in a second > or two - subsequently, the delays required get pretty long. I was about to suggest -n in case it was a client problem with the connection not being terminated correctly... Actually, I screwed up before, I meant to say SO_LINGER. I said keepalive because I knew that was switchable. If you are globally setting SO_LINGER -- don't. You may also want to check to see (via ps -gax) if the rlogind had exited, or it's the TCP trying to ack the client that's causing the hang. Turning off TCP extensions may also help. Other than that, you'd need to work closely with Garrett or one of the other protocol level guru's who deal with the dirt of TCP itself, since anything else probably means that your client is violating the spec. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 16:08:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA07819 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 16:08:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA07803 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 16:08:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA08975; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 16:06:06 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606172306.QAA08975@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Rlogin delay To: brian@MediaCity.com Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 16:06:06 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606172243.PAA21939@MediaCity.com> from "Brian Litzinger" at Jun 17, 96 03:43:51 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > I've observed something concerning rlogin that is a bit odd to me, and > > > increasingly annoying for my users. When a user logs off and then tries > > > to re-log within a reasonable delay from another machine on the local > > > network, the login will be ingored for a very long time (10-60 seconds > > > seems typical). I checked the /etc/inetd.conf to make sure it was okay: > > I've observed the following behavior between two FreeBSD of every > version since 2.0.5 > > freebsd1# rsh freebsd2 ls -a > ./ .cshrc .klogin .rhosts > ../ .fvwmrc .login .xsession > .Xdefaults .history .profile > > freebsd1# rsh freebsd2 ls -a > (30 or so seconds later) > Connection refused Interesting. Did you know that FreeBSD and Linux handle route errors differently, and that maybe a timeout on disconnect is being misinterpreted? Linux drops the connection (making it somewhat succeptible to the "NT sniper bug", actually), and FreeBSD retries. Matt Day posted something about this to -hackers or to -current a while ago. If you are stuck in an incremental back-off, it could explain a few things. It would also explain why the change came in at the same time as the 4.4 Lite code came in in place of the 4.3 (Net/2) code. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 16:36:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA09447 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 16:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.computer.net (root@ns.computer.net [205.198.160.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA09442 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 16:36:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prod 2.computer.net ([205.198.160.101]) by ns.computer.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA29897 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 19:36:38 -0400 Message-ID: <31BE9081.5B7C@computer.net> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 05:40:17 -0400 From: Dana Ross X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Please help with install troubles X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi: Well I have now pulled 2 all nighters trying to get FreeBSD up and running. I am having a problem that I can not troubleshoot! I can find nothing in the manual to help me solve this. Please help! I loaded the boot.flp off the net and made the disk I booted my Pentium computer with IDE 1gig HD and 16 megs mem with Ne2000 Ethernet card. I had to change the ethernet card address to 0320 in the config area by using -c during the boot. In this same config area I took out all the conflicts that showed up and made sure all my essentials were ok! At main menu I chose novice setup.... I use the (a) command in the disk setup area and then the a command again to auto config the disk I told the system to get the files via FTP from your site and it did it! I am on a T1 and am an ISP. After all the files were transferred I get the following message... "Unable to link /Kernel into place" I continued on and set up Apache and other options that all loaded and took fine. I then exited and the reboot began. The boot came up with F1 BSD F? when I hit F1 the thing freezes. What can I do? Do I have to get all the files again and start over to fix this. I have already done this 3 times to no avail. Please Please send any help you can. This has got to be something simple as all else went fine. I have deadlines to meet and could use the help! If you can be reached by phone and if that is easier please leave a number and a time to call. I can be reached by phone after 7pm eastern at 773-1130 or at support@computer.net via email. Thanks very much! Larry PS: Please be specific in any instructions you send as I still am not 100% on my unix stuff :) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 16:46:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA09891 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 16:46:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fyeung5.netific.com (netific.vip.best.com [205.149.182.145]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA09879 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 16:46:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fyeung@localhost) by fyeung5.netific.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA02357 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 16:51:34 GMT From: francis yeung Message-Id: <199606171651.QAA02357@fyeung5.netific.com> Subject: source routed packet - ipfw To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 16:51:33 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, Can ipfw handle (deny) any source routed packets ? How can I deny any ICMP redirect using ipfw ? Thanks. Francis From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 16:48:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA09955 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 16:48:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emout09.mail.aol.com (emout09.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.24]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA09950 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 16:48:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Amooooo@aol.com Received: by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA07108 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 19:48:37 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 19:48:37 -0400 Message-ID: <960617194837_219308939@emout09.mail.aol.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: New Unix user Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk HI all as you probley can tell from my question Im a new FreeBSD user and have a quick question. Which I have install FreeBSD and X and want to run X but at login after typing root I get the following msg (Terminal type? [cons25]) which does not accpect the startx command. Can any one tell me how I run X . Thanks Adam From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 17:33:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA12149 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 17:33:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from milpitas.adaptec.com (milpitas.adaptec.com [162.62.21.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA12144 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 17:32:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from btc.btc.adaptec.com ([162.62.63.6]) by milpitas.adaptec.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17693; Mon, 17 Jun 96 17:27:51 PDT Received: from janeway (janeway.btc.adaptec.com [162.62.63.35]) by btc.btc.adaptec.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA06120; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 18:31:28 -0600 From: Aaron Dailey Received: by janeway (4.1) id AA17579; Mon, 17 Jun 96 18:30:55 MDT Date: Mon, 17 Jun 96 18:30:55 MDT Message-Id: <9606180030.AA17579@janeway> To: terry@lambert.org Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606172133.OAA08671@phaeton.artisoft.com> (message from Terry Lambert on Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:33:02 -0700 (MST)) Subject: Re: PS/Valuepoint and keyboard hang on install Reply-To: aarond@btc.adaptec.com Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > From: Terry Lambert > Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 14:33:02 -0700 (MST) > Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG > > > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 2.1 Release on an IBM PS/Valuepoint > > 6384, and get a keyboard lock once everything boots. I saw a > > similar question in the mailing list database, but never saw a > > resolution, and email bounces when I try to ask the person that sent > > it. > > 1) Disable the psm driver initially > > boot -c > visual > > I don't see a psm0 driver. Once I get to visual, under input devices I have bus mouse (mse0) and syscons (sc0?). This is on the 2.1 release boot disk. Am I missing something? Aaron Dailey adaptec (303) 516 4701 (voice) (303) 581 1088 (fax) aarond@btc.adaptec.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 17:40:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA12463 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 17:40:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA12452 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 17:40:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id SAA12121; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 18:29:56 GMT Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 18:29:56 GMT Message-Id: <199606171829.SAA12121@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: noc@nap.net CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <31C57A40.41C67EA6@inap.net> (message from Operator on Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:31:12 -0500) Subject: Re: Memory restrictions Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I am running FreeBSD version 2.1.0 Release...The machine has 128MB > ram...when the machine boots the memory is physically present yet the > operating system does not seem to see it... > My question is...Does FreeBSD have a memory limitation...or am I missing > something...? It's in the FAQ:- 8.6. I have 128 MB of RAM but it seems that the system use only the first 64 MB. What's going on ? Due to the manner in which FreeBSD gets the memory size from the BIOS, it can only detect 16 bits worth of Kbytes in size (65535 Kbytes = 64MB). If you have more than 64MB, FreeBSD will only see the first 64MB. To work around this problem, you need to use the kernel option specified below. There is a way to get complete memory information from the BIOS, but we don't have room in the bootblocks to do it. Someday when lack of room in the bootblocks is fixed, we'll use the extended BIOS functions to get the full memory information...but for now we're stuck with the kernel option. options "MAXMEM=" Where n is your memory in Kilobytes. For a 128 MB machine, you'd want to use 131072 For some reason, this isn't mentioned in the supposedly exhaustive LINT file. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 17:41:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA12603 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 17:41:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA12587 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 17:41:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id TAA12247; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 19:40:44 GMT Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 19:40:44 GMT Message-Id: <199606171940.TAA12247@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: jrclark@netview.net CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <2.2.32.19960617114519.0094a3cc@netview.net> (message from John Clark on Mon, 17 Jun 1996 11:43:45 -0500) Subject: Re: sup setup Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [Re compiling a -stable source tree] > >From this, I assume the following: > > 1) rename /usr/src to /usr/src.old > 2) unpack the src tree to /usr/src > > The stable sources are now in place... > > 3) cd /usr/src > 4) make world ; make all ; make install ; make clean > > 5) reboot, and pray to whatever deity that consoles > me that my system will come back up Exactly, except that (4) should just be 'make world' - if you read through the Makefile, you'll see that this nukes anything already in your source tree that could conceivably be used for making anything, makes an initial set of programs to make the build tools, makes all the build tools, makes everything from scratch again using the new build tools and then installs everything. Or something like that. The 'make all; make install' is what you do *instead* of a 'make world' if you want to update your -stable system after getting some new code. This is what most people do when they get an update to their source tree - strictly speaking, they should do a 'make world', but just doing a 'make all install' is usually safe enough. The 'make clean' at the end will delete all the object files and build copies of the programs and libraries that you waited so long for. If you're really certain you won't be compiling the tree again and you need the disk space, this is fine. Otherwise I'd recommend keeping it around; even -stable changes occasionally and it would be really annoying if someone came up with an essential one-line patch and it took you however many hours to do a 'make world' again, just to incorporate that simple change into your system. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 17:45:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA12846 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 17:45:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alaska.net (root@calvino.alaska.net [206.149.65.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA12840 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 17:45:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from anc-p3-98.alaska.net by alaska.net (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA24526; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 16:45:13 -0800 Message-Id: <31C5ECBA.7A31@alaska.net> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 16:39:38 -0700 From: hmmm X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: ftp inst X-Url: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk this isn't a question, it's a tech comment. the latest (2.2 snap, 6/12) version of the install does not allow modems on /dev/cuaa1, the settings always remain /dev/cuaa0. while in ppp on VT3, i "set" the device to /dev/cuaa1, but i still couldn't get term to respond. ps. i LOVE the way you guys keep things neat and organized and easy to install. i spent alot of time with linux, but found it too much of a hack job to get functionality out of it. what good is an os if setting it up and getting familiar with it takes half a life time of hacking ? pps. please keep file pointers to a min! i like it! KISStupid! From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 18:03:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA13473 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 18:03:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns3.mke.ab.com (ns3.mke.ab.com [130.151.86.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA13465; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 18:03:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com ([130.151.17.154]) by ns3.mke.ab.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02194; Mon, 17 Jun 96 20:03:11 CDT Received: from slip1.ven.ra.rockwell.com (slip1.ven.ra.rockwell.com [130.151.17.162]) by zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA21669; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 21:02:39 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 21:02:39 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960617212013.1a17e424@zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com> Organization: Rockwell Automation de Venezuela X-Sender: eparis@zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@FreeBSD.org, hardware@FreeBSD.org From: "Eloy A. Paris" Subject: FreeBSD works with Cy486DLC processors? Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi. I installed FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE a couple of weeks ago and since then I have been having programs exiting with signals 10 and 11, making my system too unstable to work as a dedicated e-mail server and as a PPP to Ethernet gateway. I get such errors with processor intensive tasks like compiling (I got errors like these while compiling the kernel, pppd and bind). My microprocessor is a Cyrix Cy486DLC running at a mother board clock rate of 33 MHz and an internal clock rate of 100 MHz. Today I disabled the internal cache of the CPU and the system is behaving quite stable since then but it is very very slooowwww. I got this error though: Jun 17 13:25:33 skynet /kernel: pid 2880: tr: uid 1000: exited on signal 11 but I want to think this is not related to my hardware problem :-( I have read the mail archives in www.freebsd.org and saw that someone said that he would hardly recommend getting a Cyrix microprocessor. Can someone tell me what could be wrong with my hardware setup and if I would do better getting a genuine Intel CPU? I am in deep trouble since I recommended to upgrade an old PC to a 486 instead of buying a new PC for this important piece of our Information Technology structure. This machine is going to be an e-mail server (sendmail + pop3) and a PPP to Ethernet gateway that will connect two buildings through a leased line. I NEED stability!!! I don't think there is a problem with the mother board because I have tried with two getting the same errors. My hardware setup is: Cyrix Cy486DLC CPU 16 Megs. of RAM 1 GByte IDE hard drive FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE Any hint will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Eloy.- -- Eloy A. Paris Global Technical Services Rockwell Automation de Venezuela Telephone: 58-2-9432311 Fax: 58-2-9430323 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 18:45:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA15897 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 18:45:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mnemosyne.muse.com.au (router.muse.com.au [203.26.7.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA15888 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 18:45:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from www@localhost) by mnemosyne.muse.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA06652; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:44:55 +1000 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:44:55 +1000 (EST) From: Richard Beyer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Mount a CDROM? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Warning! Newbie question! I've inherited a set-up FreeBSD 2.1r system and can't work out how to mount the CDROM. If have the folllowing line in /etc/fstab ... #/dev/wcd0c /cdrom cd9660 ro 1 1 ... and the device node /dev/wcd0c waiting, but get thoroughly confused with the man pages on 'mount'. Thanks in advance. Richard. .......................................................................... Muse Productions P/L If you could be as life to me WWW : http://www.muse.com.au/ And I your love be death Email : inspired@muse.com.au A kiss would serve to set you free Phone : +61 03 347098 And steal your final breath Fax : +61 03 347270 .......................................................................... From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 19:08:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA17081 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 19:08:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Rigel.orionsys.com (root@rigel.orionsys.com [205.148.224.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA17063 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 19:07:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dbabler@localhost) by Rigel.orionsys.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id TAA05638; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 19:07:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 19:07:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Babler To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Gopher man pages? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I seem to be having a problem installing gopher from the ports collection. Specifically, the installation produces the gopher client correctly and it works fine... except that there are -NO- man pages. I've removed the package and reinstalled it, each time the 'make install' seemed to be doing something except that it keeps saying that the doc make file is up to date. No man 1 or man 8 entries for gopher, gopherd, gophfilt or anything else (no apropos hits for anything, as would be expected). What am I missing here? Perplexed as usual... -Dave Babler From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 19:34:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA18899 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 19:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wdl1.wdl.loral.com (wdl1.wdl.loral.com [137.249.32.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA18888 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 19:33:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miles.sso.loral.com (miles.wdl.loral.com) by wdl1.wdl.loral.com (5.x/WDL-2.4-1.0) id AA08891; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 19:33:28 -0700 Received: by miles.sso.loral.com (4.1/SSO-SUN-2.04) id AA11339; Mon, 17 Jun 96 22:31:37 EDT Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 22:31:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Toren X-Sender: rpt@miles To: Jamil Weatherbee Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is FreeBSD work on 586 system? (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I don't know if you are using 586 as a generic term, but I recently plopped in an AMD 586-133 (DX/4-33) in my system and just rebooted. This is with 2.1R ==================================================== Rip Toren | The bad news is that C++ is not an object-oriented | rpt@miles.sso.loral.com | programming language. .... The good news is that | | C++ supports object-oriented programming. | | C++ Programming & Fundamental Concepts | | by Anderson & Heinze | ==================================================== On Mon, 17 Jun 1996, Jamil Weatherbee wrote: > > > Technical Support > Walnut Creek CDROM > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 18:11:34 -0500 > From: shinjiro nojima > To: info@cdrom.com > Subject: Is FreeBSD work on 586 system? > Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 02:56:32 -0700 > Resent-From: Order Information > Resent-To: support@cdrom.com > > Is FreeBSD work on 586 system? > I'm thinking to use Linux with 100mhz 586 dos card installed on Mac. > > Thank you for advance > > -- > Shinjiro Nojima > > NOYO Systems & Design, Inc. > noyo@walrus.com. > http://www.walrus.com/~noyo > 307 East 44th Room 722 > New York NY 10017 > 212-697-3609 > 212-867-7383 fax > > * * > \ / > Please visit our Web page > and download > Internet information > organizing and publishing > tool. > / \ > * * > > From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 19:52:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA19892 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 19:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns3.mke.ab.com (ns3.mke.ab.com [130.151.86.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA19883; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 19:52:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from by ns3.mke.ab.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AB02477; Mon, 17 Jun 96 21:52:28 CDT Received: from slip1.ven.ra.rockwell.com (slip1.ven.ra.rockwell.com [130.151.17.162]) by zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA21896; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 22:51:35 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 22:51:35 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960617230901.3f870228@zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com> Organization: Rockwell Automation de Venezuela X-Sender: eparis@zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "M.R.Murphy" From: "Eloy A. Paris" Subject: Re: FreeBSD works with Cy486DLC processors? Cc: questions@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk El 06:38 PM 17/6/96 -0700, tu escribiste: >> My hardware setup is: >> >> Cyrix Cy486DLC CPU >> 16 Megs. of RAM >> 1 GByte IDE hard drive >> FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE >> > >What kind of memory do you have? What speed? What about cache? What speed? >Do you have BIOS options to introduce additional wait states? Have you >tried them? Hi, Thanks for your answer. I have one 16 MByte SIMM. I am not too sure but I think the speed is 70 nanoseconds. I used a different 16 MByte SIMM and got the same segmentation faults. I do not have external cache and hence it is disabled in the ROM BIOS setup. I disabled today the internal cache. There are some BIOS options (a couple of them) to introduce additional wait states. I think I tried them several days ago with no luck but I am going to try again. My kernel is configured just for the hardware I have (1 NE2000 Ethernet card, two serial ports, one printer port, UFS, PROC file system, NFS). My mother board has two PCI slots but PCI support is disabled in the kernel. The faults are random. When the internal cache is enabled, I can easyly reproduce the fault with: modload -u -o /tmp/saver_mod -e saver_init -q /lkm/star_saver_mod.o Of 5 commands like the above, at least one gives me a segmentation fault (the ld command, actually, that is being called by modload). >I should have asked in my previous mail: do you have a CPU cooler? Sure thing. This was the first thing that came to my mind. I have a good cooler and fan. The CPU is cold as ice. I read in the INSTALL doc. that you should avoid using the "entire disk" option with IDE hard drives in the partitioning part of the installation. I am using my entire IDE disk for FreeBSD (no other OS's). Can this be the problem? I don't think so but who knows? Today I got another program exiting with signal 11. The command was 'tr' that has nothing to do with nothing. The internal cache was disabled so I am starting to think there is something else BESIDES the CPU that is giving me a hard time. Probably if I try the wait states options ... Thanks. Eloy.- -- Eloy A. Paris Global Technical Services Rockwell Automation de Venezuela Telephone: 58-2-9432311 Fax: 58-2-9430323 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 20:18:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA20815 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 20:18:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riker.comcirc.com.au (riker.comcirc.com.au [203.17.165.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA20810 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 20:18:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from paul@localhost) by riker.comcirc.com.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA20059; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:22:50 +1000 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:22:50 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Sondhu To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Microsoft FrontPage Server Extensions for FreeBSD Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I was wondering if anyone out there is using the FrontPage Server Extensions with the Microsoft FrontPage Web Editor/Manager. We run the NCSA httpd web server on a FreeBSD machine and I am trying to install the BSDi version of the FrontPage Server Extensions which I downloaded off the Microsoft web site. The BSDi version is the closest version it had that resembled anything near to FreeBSD. Is BSDi compatible with FreeBSD? Paul. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Sondhu Email: P.Sondhu@comcirc.com.au Computer Circuit Pty. Ltd. Tel: +61 53 826 959 27 Darlot St. Fax: +61 53 826 301 Horsham 3400 WWW: http://www.comcirc.com.au/staff/paul Victoria Australia ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 20:28:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA21291 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 20:28:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haus.efn.org (haus.efn.org [198.68.17.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA21284 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 20:28:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Pdavid_jh.efn.org (dynip79.efn.org [204.214.97.79]) by haus.efn.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA04721 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 20:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <31C6148A.FC3@efn.org> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 20:29:30 -0600 From: David Hetrick Reply-To: david_jh@efn.org Organization: Roosevelt Middle School X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b3 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Filename for download Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I want to know which filename is the actual program of FreeBSD and the installation program ... this will save me some time. I have been searching through the FTP directories and can't find a single zipped file to download. If you could send me the file or tell me at least an ftp:// or http:// that would be great. Otherwise...I can't get your system/OS. Thanks for your help, Dave :) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 20:31:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA21416 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 20:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sili.adn.edu.ph (info@sili.adn.edu.ph [165.220.57.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA21036 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 20:23:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from info@localhost) by sili.adn.edu.ph (8.6.11/8.6.9) id GAA19613; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 06:56:58 +1000 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 06:56:58 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Information Help Desk To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: changing /etc/ttys Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk HI !!! When I try to change the file /etc/ttys, let us say I want to comment the line, thereby disabling it, ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.19200" dialup on secure and add cuaa0 "/usr/local/sbin/mgetty -s 19200" dialup on secure Then save and exit from the editor. I issue a kill -HUP 1 to process init. I notice that there is still a process, ??? ?? ?? ?:??.?? /usr/libexec/getty std.19200 ttyd0 I try to kill it but always it is being resurrected. I have to resort to rebooting the FBSD box just to get rid of this process. Is there some other convenient way to do this? Thank you ~:') -- jf From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 20:42:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA22042 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 20:42:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA22036 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 20:42:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twwells.com (twwells.com [199.79.159.1]) by ref.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA26454 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 20:42:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by twwells.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uVrcx-0001HiC; Mon, 17 Jun 96 23:38 EDT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Subject: lj iii and postscript? Date: 17 Jun 1996 23:38:49 -0400 Lines: 3 Message-ID: <4q58c9$ati@twwells.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.twwells.com Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Would someone point me to where instructions on setting up to use a Laserjet III with a postscript cartridge is? This is for FreeBSD2.1. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 20:55:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA22612 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 20:55:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dtr.com ([205.139.102.212]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA22519; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 20:53:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from everest.dtr.com (everest.dtr.com [199.26.157.34]) by dtr.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA03989; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 20:49:03 -0700 Received: (from bmk@localhost) by everest.dtr.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA01232; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 20:48:45 -0700 Message-Id: <199606180348.UAA01232@everest.dtr.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD works with Cy486DLC processors? To: Eloy.Paris@ven.ra.rockwell.com (Eloy A. Paris) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 20:48:45 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org, hardware@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19960617212013.1a17e424@zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com> from "Eloy A. Paris" at Jun 17, 96 09:02:39 pm From: "Brant M. Katkansky" Reply-To: bmk@fta.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I installed FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE a couple of weeks ago and since then I > have been having programs exiting with signals 10 and 11, making my system > too unstable to work as a dedicated e-mail server and as a PPP to Ethernet > gateway. [snip] I had one given to me not too long ago. Mine is plagued with various sig 10 and 11's, same as yours. Here's the interesting part - disabling the internal and external cache makes the problem worse. I'm going to replace it with something better. Sometimes free is not a very good price at all. :) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 21:20:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA24125 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 21:20:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from franklin.cris.com (franklin.cris.com [199.3.12.31]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA24113 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 21:20:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from voyager.cris.com (voyager [199.3.12.37]) by franklin.cris.com (8.7.5/(96/06/11 2.45)) id AAA22481; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 00:18:54 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from localhost by voyager.cris.com (4.1) id AA07338; Tue, 18 Jun 96 00:18:14 EDT Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 00:18:14 -0400 (EDT) From: JAMIE To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: help on installation Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sorry to bother you, but I keep getting stuck at the same spot on the installation. I've tried dozens of times over the past week with several boot and root disks trying to do a floppy install and I keep getting hung when I try to load the root floppy. Also, though I'm not sure if it is supposed to boot without the root floppy installed, but if I try to boot straight from my hard drive instead of using the boot floppy I get the same prompt as with the boot floppy but instead of going to the install menu the opening message and prompt just keep repeating. To complicate things a bit, this is a machine that I just built, so I was wondering if this could be caused by a piece of bad hardware or something that isn't compatible with FreeBSD. Most of it is pretty standard stuff, except maybe the hard drive. It's a 2.5" Seagate 524mb IDE drive with a 3.5" adapter. Any help you could give me at this point would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. jamie@cris.net From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 21:45:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA25776 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 21:45:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riker.comcirc.com.au (riker.comcirc.com.au [203.17.165.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA25769 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 21:45:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from paul@localhost) by riker.comcirc.com.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA20271; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:50:07 +1000 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:50:07 +1000 (EST) From: Paul Sondhu To: Scott Donovan cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Microsoft FrontPage Server Extensions for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960618041741.006e077c@147.109.1.8> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Scott Donovan wrote: > >Is BSDi compatible with FreeBSD? > > Hmm I have down loaded the extensions.. But I get nothing but core dumps > :-( I have sent an email to microsoft asking this exact question.. I don't > expect a reply. > > Cheers, > Scott D. > I get exactly the same thing. Regards, Paul. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 21:51:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA26084 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 21:51:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MindBender.HeadCandy.com (root@[199.238.225.168]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA26062; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 21:51:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.HeadCandy.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA12553; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 21:45:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606180445.VAA12553@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.HeadCandy.com: Host michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: "Eloy A. Paris" cc: "M.R.Murphy" , questions@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD works with Cy486DLC processors? In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 17 Jun 96 22:51:35 -0400. <2.2.16.19960617230901.3f870228@zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 21:43:47 -0700 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>> Cyrix Cy486DLC CPU >>> 16 Megs. of RAM >>> 1 GByte IDE hard drive >>> FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE >I have one 16 MByte SIMM. I am not too sure but I think the speed is 70 >nanoseconds. I used a different 16 MByte SIMM and got the same segmentation >faults. 70ns should be fast enough for this generation of hardware. >There are some BIOS options (a couple of them) to introduce additional wait >states. I think I tried them several days ago with no luck but I am going to >try again. You should try setting them to their most conservative (slowest) settings. If you still get the same errors, your hardware is just badly designed -- no amount of tuning will fix it. >The faults are random. When the internal cache is enabled, I can easyly >reproduce the fault with: This just reconfirms my assertions. If it runs OK with the cache off, it's almost definitely bad caching logic in the motherboard. >I read in the INSTALL doc. that you should avoid using the "entire disk" >option with IDE hard drives in the partitioning part of the installation. I >am using my entire IDE disk for FreeBSD (no other OS's). Can this be the >problem? I don't think so but who knows? No, this is definitely a cache coherency or memory problem. It's possible you just have a cheap motherboard that doesn't have good enough cache circuitry to run something as demanding as unix. Have you tried anything else demanding on it, like Windows NT or OS/2 (or Linux or NetBSD)? If it's truly a 486DLC, you already have two strikes against you. And, you have to accept that there are some motherboards out there that Just Don't Work with a demanding operating system, unless you turn all the features off. My advice would be to send the motherboard back ASAP and buy something a little higher quality. If you're going to stick with a 486, get an ASUS motherboard (well, get an ASUS no matter what). Make sure the motherboard you buy takes a real 486, and not a DLC. Then you can plug in a 486 or one of the new 5x86 chips, and things should still work with FreeBSD. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@HeadCandy.com --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... Roll your own Internet access -- Seattle People's Internet cooperative. If you're in the Seattle area, ask me how. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 21:59:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA26531 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 21:59:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x1.boston.juno.com (x1.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.21]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA26526 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 21:59:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fadorno@juno.com) by x1.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id AAB18757; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 00:58:50 EDT To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 21:58:11 PST Subject: Hitachi IDE CD-Rom Message-ID: <19960617.215812.9766.1.fadorno@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.00 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0 From: fadorno@juno.com (Fred Adorno) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there a way to get the software to acknowledge my new drive? From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jun 17 23:45:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA04708 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 23:45:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inet-tsb.toshiba.co.jp (inet-tsb.toshiba.co.jp [202.33.96.40]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA04703 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 23:45:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tis2.tis.toshiba.co.jp by inet-tsb.toshiba.co.jp (8.6.12+2.5W/3.3W9-04/12/95) id PAA10300; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:44:38 +0900 Received: from mx.toshiba.co.jp (mx) by tis2.tis.toshiba.co.jp (5.67+1.6W/3.3W9-TOSHIBA-SERVER) id AA11749; Tue, 18 Jun 96 15:44:35 JST Received: from genuine.isl.rdc.toshiba.co.jp by toshiba.co.jp (8.7.1+2.6Wbeta4/3.3W9-TOSHIBA-GLOBAL SERVER) id PAA05134; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:44:54 +0900 (JST) Received: from isl.rdc.toshiba.co.jp (shigeom@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by genuine.isl.rdc.toshiba.co.jp (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00684 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:44:30 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199606180644.PAA00684@genuine.isl.rdc.toshiba.co.jp> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Question X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05+ on Emacs 19.28.2, Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:44:30 +0900 From: Shigeo Matsuzawa / =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPj5fNxsoQg==?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCTFBNOhsoQg==?= Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk We are considerring to sell a commercial product that uses a Free-BSD in it. In order to develop this product, we did refer the source code. Each product will contain Free-BSD with our original code. Our question is, in this case, what procedures do we have to do ? When you give us an approriate information (e.g., contact point to talk), it will be very appreciated. Thank you in advance, Shigeo Matsuzawa Toshiba Corporation in Japan. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 00:52:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA07660 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 00:52:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from csd.cs.technion.ac.il (csd.cs.technion.ac.il [132.68.32.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA07652 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 00:52:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nadav@localhost) by csd.cs.technion.ac.il (8.6.11/8.6.10) id KAA21505; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:51:41 +0300 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:48:14 +0300 (IDT) From: Nadav Eiron X-Sender: nadav@csd To: Richard Beyer cc: freebsd-questions@cs.technion.ac.il Subject: Re: Mount a CDROM? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ReSent-Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:51:30 +0300 (IDT) ReSent-From: Nadav Eiron ReSent-To: questions@freebsd.org ReSent-Message-ID: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Richard Beyer wrote: > Warning! Newbie question! > > I've inherited a set-up FreeBSD 2.1r system and can't work out how to > mount the CDROM. > > If have the folllowing line in /etc/fstab > ... > #/dev/wcd0c /cdrom cd9660 ro 1 1 > ... First, that line is commented out, so uncomment it. You should probably also mark it "noauto" so that at boot time (don't if you want it to mount at each reboot), the cdrom will not be mounted, and also set the last two fields to 0 (as CDROM's don't get dumped or fscked). This would give: /dev/wcd0c /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 Then, all you have to do is: mount /cdrom > > Thanks in advance. > > Richard. > Nadav From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 01:05:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA08258 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 01:05:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from isgate.is (isgate.is [193.4.58.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA08253 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 01:05:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hummer.islandia.is by isgate.is (8.7.5-M/ISnet/14-10-91); Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:05:16 GMT Received: by hummer.islandia.is (8.6.12/ISnet/12-09-94); Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:05:54 GMT Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:05:54 +0000 (GMT) From: Stefan Thor Hreinsson To: Paul Sondhu cc: Scott Donovan , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Microsoft FrontPage Server Extensions for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Paul Sondhu wrote: > > > On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Scott Donovan wrote: > > > >Is BSDi compatible with FreeBSD? > > > > Hmm I have down loaded the extensions.. But I get nothing but core dumps > > :-( I have sent an email to microsoft asking this exact question.. I don't > > expect a reply. > > > > Cheers, > > Scott D. > > > > I get exactly the same thing. > > Regards, > > Paul. > I am currently using the extensions by running 2.1-STABLE, it seems that the BSDI is better supported in STABLE. It works ok except that I had to copy passwords from master.passwd to get in as an author, since the extension uses some other form of password encryption. Kind regards Stefan Thor Hreinsson From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 01:10:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA08435 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 01:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from csd.cs.technion.ac.il (csd.cs.technion.ac.il [132.68.32.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA08428 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 01:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nadav@localhost) by csd.cs.technion.ac.il (8.6.11/8.6.10) id LAA23584; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:09:33 +0300 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:09:32 +0300 (IDT) From: Nadav Eiron X-Sender: nadav@csd To: Richard Beyer cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mount a CDROM? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Richard Beyer wrote: > Warning! Newbie question! > > I've inherited a set-up FreeBSD 2.1r system and can't work out how to > mount the CDROM. > > If have the folllowing line in /etc/fstab > ... > #/dev/wcd0c /cdrom cd9660 ro 1 1 > ... First, that line is commented out, so uncomment it. You should probably also mark it "noauto" so that at boot time (don't if you want it to mount at each reboot), the cdrom will not be mounted, and also set the last two fields to 0 (as CDROM's don't get dumped or fscked). This would give: /dev/wcd0c /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 Then, all you have to do is: mount /cdrom > > Thanks in advance. > > Richard. > Nadav From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 01:17:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA08805 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 01:17:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sili.adn.edu.ph (root@sili.adn.edu.ph [165.220.57.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA08794 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 01:17:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from info@localhost) by sili.adn.edu.ph (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA20493; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:27:39 +1000 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:27:39 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Information Help Desk To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: No response from bootp server Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk HI !!! I recently set-up my fbsd box as a bootp server. I ran bootpd as a standalone process, (bootpd -s), and modified /etc/bootptab. It now contains the following, .default:\ :hn:dn=mydomain:\ :hd=/usr/boot:\ :ds=mynameserver:\ :sm=mynetmask:\ :gw=mygateway: csdept :ht=ether:ha=0020AFA73683:tc=.default: To find out if it works, I tested it out in one workstation connected to the network. I run windows and tcpman wherein I put 'bootp' instead of an IP address in the setup. It works just fine and the workstation was able to get the IP from my fbsd bootp server. Then, I tried NCSA telnet for PC's. I modified the configuration file 'config.tel'. ... #myip=165.220.57.10 myip=BOOTP ... I tried to telnet to one of our hosts in the network using NCSA telnet. However, after waiting for 20 seconds, NCSA telnet responds back with No respond from BOOTP server Unable to initialize or read the configuration file BOOTP Failed ! How come there was no respond from my BOOTP server? The hardware address is indicated above in the bootptab file. Thank you ~:') -- jf From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 02:08:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA11998 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 02:08:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA11963 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 02:08:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id BAA04355; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 01:49:41 GMT Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 01:49:41 GMT Message-Id: <199606180149.BAA04355@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: support@cdrom.com CC: questions@FreeBSD.org In-reply-to: (message from Jamil Weatherbee on Mon, 17 Jun 1996 11:32:12 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: open look graphics shared library (fwd) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I bought your FreeBSD CDROM. It's great! I love unix. > It's running fine on my intel box. Glad to hear it! > I use the open look virtual window manager at work on linux > and I like it a lot. > > I downloaded the olvwm binary. > When I run it, the following message is presented: > > ld.so: olvwm: Can't find shared library "libolgx.so.3.2" > > I feel I've done some serious searching, and I have not > yet been able to find this shared library binary or source. It's there all right, but it's been cunningly disguised inside a package with a completely different name 8-) If you go to wherever you got hold of olvwm, you should also find three files starting with xview - xview-clients-3.2.1.tar.gz, xview-config-3.2.1.tar.gz and xview-library-3.2.1.tar.gz. These contain all the supporting files needed to set up the openlook environment. If you download these and install them in the usual way, that should get olvwm up and running. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 02:13:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA12225 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 02:13:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.rwth-aachen.de (mail.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA12213 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 02:13:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de) by mail.rwth-aachen.de (PMDF V5.0-4 #13110) id <01I61UIM1B00002KBK@mail.rwth-aachen.de>; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:33:48 +0100 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA09144; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:42:24 +0200 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:42:23 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Subject: Re: lj iii and postscript? In-reply-to: <4q58c9$ati@twwells.com> To: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-to: Christoph Kukulies Message-id: <199606180842.KAA09144@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL16 (25)] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Would someone point me to where instructions on setting up to use > a Laserjet III with a postscript cartridge is? This is for > FreeBSD2.1. > Best source is the FreeBSD handbook. /usr/share/doc/handbook/*.html Get chimera or any other html reader (netscape, mosaic) and open the file handbook.html. (ftp:/ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/share/doc/handbook) --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 02:13:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA12249 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 02:13:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.rwth-aachen.de (mail.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA12233 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 02:13:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de) by mail.rwth-aachen.de (PMDF V5.0-4 #13110) id <01I61URESZEO002JYQ@mail.rwth-aachen.de>; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:40:53 +0100 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA09178; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:49:32 +0200 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:49:31 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Subject: Re: Filename for download In-reply-to: <31C6148A.FC3@efn.org> To: david_jh@efn.org Cc: questions@freebsd.org Reply-to: Christoph Kukulies Message-id: <199606180849.KAA09178@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL16 (25)] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I want to know which filename is the actual program of FreeBSD and the > installation program ... this will save me some time. > I have been searching through the FTP directories and can't > find a single zipped file to download. If you could send me the file > or tell me at least an ftp:// or http:// that would be great. > Otherwise...I can't get your system/OS. > Thanks for your help, > Dave :) Depends whether you want to install from DOS or boot directly from floppy into the FreeBSD installation menu and load the rest of the OS over the Internet. If you have good net connectivity I'd recommend the latter. For this get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE/floppies/ boot.flp. You should also get the INSTALL.TXT and README docs. If you're not of the faint at heart kind you may grab the files from 2.2-190612-SNAP directory. > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 03:17:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA15276 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 03:17:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.ineos.ac.ru (alpha.ineos.ac.ru [193.233.4.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA15239; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 03:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ws1 (ws1.ineos.ac.ru [193.233.4.3]) by alpha.ineos.ac.ru (8.6.12/9) with SMTP id OAA09651; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:16:49 +0400 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:16:49 +0400 Message-Id: <199606181016.OAA09651@alpha.ineos.ac.ru> X-Sender: alex@alpha.ineos.ac.ru (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org From: "Alexander V. Polyakov" Subject: lnc0: Initialisation failed Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm not having much luck getting my Lance-based PCI Ethernet cards working on my new P-133 and would appreciate some help. Before now I was running FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE on my old P-90 and everything worked perfectly. My old system info: TMC PCI54PV motherboard (ISA/VESA/PCI), OPTI chipset (82C596/82C597/82C822), P54C/CT 90 MHz microprocessor, 256KB cache SRAM, 32MB DRAM, two PCnet-PCI (AMD 79C970) ethernet cards, FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE Yesterday I upgraded to a new motherboard and after that the ifconfig returns `Initialisation failed', though I'm still using the same old kernel and my PCI network cards are recognized by the lnc driver during the boot process. My new system info: J-656 motherboard (ISA/PCI), Intel 82430FX PCIset chipset, P54C 133MHz microprocessor, 256KB pipelined burst synchronous cache SRAM, 32MB EDO DRAM Here are the relevant lines from the boot log: ... Jun 17 18:17:52 beta /kernel: lnc0 at 0x6100-0x6117 irq 10 drq 0 on isa Jun 17 18:17:53 beta /kernel: lnc0: PCnet-32 VL-Bus Ethernet controller, address 00:00:1a:40:38:02 Jun 17 18:17:53 beta /kernel: lnc1 at 0x6000-0x6017 irq 11 drq 1 on eisa slot 6 Jun 17 18:17:53 beta /kernel: lnc1: PCnet-32 VL-Bus Ethernet controller, address 00:00:1a:28:44:11 ... Jun 17 18:17:53 beta /kernel: Probing for devices on the PCI bus: Jun 17 18:17:53 beta /kernel: chip0 rev 2 on pci0:0 Jun 17 18:17:53 beta /kernel: chip1 rev 2 on pci0:7 Jun 17 18:17:53 beta /kernel: pci0:19: AMD, device=0x2000, class=network (ethernet) [no driver assigned] Jun 17 18:17:53 beta /kernel: pci0:20: AMD, device=0x2000, class=network (ethernet) [no driver assigned] ... Jun 17 18:17:54 beta /kernel: lnc0: Initialisation failed Jun 17 18:17:54 beta /kernel: lnc1: Initialisation failed Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Alex ------------------------------------- Alexander V. Polyakov System Administrator Institute of Organoelement Compounds, Russian Academy of Sciences. Phone: +7 095 1359331 Fax: +7 095 1358119 E-mail: alex@ineos.ac.ru From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 03:30:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA15981 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 03:30:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.rwth-aachen.de (mail.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA15728 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 03:24:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de) by mail.rwth-aachen.de (PMDF V5.0-4 #13110) id <01I61XIPXFN4002KCU@mail.rwth-aachen.de>; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:00:10 +0100 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA09419; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:08:47 +0200 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:08:46 +0200 (MET DST) From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Subject: Re: smbprint (samba -> NT3.51) In-reply-to: <199606172249.PAA08861@phaeton.artisoft.com> To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Cc: kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de, freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org Reply-to: Christoph Kukulies Message-id: <199606181008.MAA09419@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL16 (25)] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Anyone gotten printing to NT printers via samba/smbprint working? > > I had just to make the bitter experience that people on our network > > were able doing this from linux while I failed doing it from FreeBSD > > (and I' m fighting for a couple of days now with password/authentication > > problems). Further investigation revealed the following: When I cat a file | ./t (the following little script) everything works like a charm. Doing printing via lpd mechanism (input filter) I get erroneous behaviour. (see second example). 1. example ---------- t: #!/bin/sh ( echo translate echo "print -" cat ) | /usr/local/samba/bin/smbclient \\\\ACC503D\\HP_III -d3 -N -P \ >>/tmp/smbprint-log smbprint-log: 06/18/96 13:45:49 client started (version 1.9.15p8) Opening sockets Connecting to 131.222.51.18 at port 139 Connected max mux 50 max vcs 1 max raw 65536 capabilities 0x3fd Sec mode 12803 max xmt 4356 Got 8 byte crypt key Chose protocol [NT LM 0.12] Server time is Tue Jun 18 11:44:52 1996 Timezone is UTC+2.0 Domain=[E_LAB] OS=[Windows NT 3.51] Server=[NT LAN Manager 3.51] Server gave us a UID of 2048. We gave 0 Connected with cnum=2048 max_xmit=4356 smb: \> CR/LF<->LF and print text translation now on smb: \> dos_clean_name [stdin] printing file - as stdin 148 bytes printed 2. example ---------- printcap excerpt: smblp|PostScript|ps:\ :mx#0:\ :lp=/dev/null:\ :cm=Ghostscript to laser on druckserver:\ :sd=/var/spool/lp/druckserver:\ :af=/var/spool/lp/druckserver/acct:\ :lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ :sh:\ :if=/usr/local/samba/bin/smbprint-ps: smbprint-ps: #!/bin/sh # # psif - Print PostScript or plain text on a PostScript printer # Script version; NOT the version that comes with lprps # Installed in /usr/local/libexec/psif # #DRUCKSERVER=druckserver DRUCKSERVER=ACC503D read first_line first_two_chars=`expr "$first_line" : '\(..\)'` if [ "$first_two_chars" = "%!" ]; then # # PostScript job, print it. # ( echo $first_line ; cat ) | \ /usr/local/bin/gs -sDEVICE=ljet3 -sOutputFile=- -q - | \ /usr/local/samba/bin/smbprint $DRUCKSERVER HP_III blues else # # Plain text, convert it, then print it. # ( echo $first_line; cat ) | /usr/local/bin/textps | \ /usr/local/bin/gs -sDEVICE=ljet3 -sOutputFile=- -q - | \ /usr/local/samba/bin/smbprint $DRUCKSERVER HP_III blues fi exit 0 smbprint: #!/bin/sh # logfile=/tmp/smb-print.log server=$1 service=$2 job=$3 echo "server $server, service $service, job $job" >> $logfile ( # echo translate echo "print -" cat ) | /usr/local/samba/bin/smbclient \\\\ACC503D\\HP_III -d3 -N -P >>$logfile smb-print.log: 06/18/96 13:29:41 client started (version 1.9.15p8) Opening sockets Connecting to 137.226.31.98 at port 139 Connected max mux 50 max vcs 1 max raw 65536 capabilities 0x3fd Sec mode 12803 max xmt 4356 Got 8 byte crypt key Chose protocol [NT LM 0.12] Server time is Tue Jun 18 11:28:45 1996 Timezone is UTC+2.0 Domain=[E_LAB] OS=[Windows NT 3.51] Server=[NT LAN Manager 3.51] Server gave us a UID of 2048. We gave 1 SMBtconX failed. ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.) Perhaps you are using the wrong sharename, username or password? Some servers insist that these be in uppercase server ACC503D, service HP_III, job 06/18/96 13:31:56 client started (version 1.9.15p8) Opening sockets Connecting to 131.222.51.18 at port 139 Connected max mux 50 max vcs 1 max raw 65536 capabilities 0x3fd Sec mode 12803 max xmt 4356 Got 8 byte crypt key Chose protocol [NT LM 0.12] Server time is Tue Jun 18 11:31:00 1996 Timezone is UTC+2.0 Domain=[E_LAB] OS=[Windows NT 3.51] Server=[NT LAN Manager 3.51] Server gave us a UID of 2048. We gave 1 SMBtconX failed. ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.) Perhaps you are using the wrong sharename, username or password? Some servers insist that these be in uppercase Maybe I did something very wrong with the shell scripts but I don't see the error at the moment. Also the user id (We gave 0 resp. 1) - in the first case I was root in the second case it's daemon or bin (1) - doesn't seemm to be the problem. Also strangely when I left office yesterday I thought it worked with the cut down script smbprint - this morning I wanted to try again and it fails again. > > I believe you *must* go to NT password based authentication. > > There's code for passing the NT-algorithm encrypted password > over the wire. We had to enable it for the NT clients to be > able to use the Samba shares (the principle is the same, though, > going from BSD to the NT server). > > Are you running the right protocol level? I don't think it > uses the right one in BSD, by default (ie: it's right for Win95, > but not for NT). > > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers. --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 03:38:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA16312 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 03:38:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from epprod.elsevier.co.uk (epprod.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.222.35]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA16290; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 03:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk (snowdon.elsevier.co.uk [193.131.197.164]) by epprod.elsevier.co.uk (8.6.13/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA29491; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:37:01 +0100 Received: from cadair.elsevier.co.uk (actually host cadair) by snowdon with SMTP (PP); Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:37:32 +0100 Received: (from dpr@localhost) by cadair.elsevier.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA12718; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:36:46 +0100 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:36:46 +0100 Message-Id: <199606181036.LAA12718@cadair.elsevier.co.uk> To: "Alexander V. Polyakov" Cc: questions@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Subject: lnc0: Initialisation failed In-Reply-To: <199606181016.OAA09651@alpha.ineos.ac.ru> References: <199606181016.OAA09651@alpha.ineos.ac.ru> Reply-To: p.richards@elsevier.co.uk From: Paul Richards X-Attribution: Paul X-Mailer: GNU Emacs [19.30.1], RMAIL, Mailcrypt [3.3] Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> ""Alexander" == "Alexander V Polyakov" writes: "Alexander> Yesterday I upgraded to a new motherboard and after that "Alexander> the ifconfig returns `Initialisation failed', though I'm "Alexander> still using the same old kernel and my PCI network cards "Alexander> are recognized by the lnc driver during the boot process. If you're still using the same kernel my first guess would be that the cards have "moved" addresses from one board to the other. You'll need to find out where they're being put on the new motherboard and change the config appropriately. Stefan's going to send me some patches to look at any day now that provide full PCI support, aren't you Stefan :-) From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 03:49:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA16772 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 03:49:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pop01.ny.us.ibm.net (pop01.ny.us.ibm.net [165.87.194.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA16767 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 03:49:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by pop01.ny.us.ibm.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id KAA36277; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:49:11 GMT Message-Id: <199606181049.KAA36277@pop01.ny.us.ibm.net> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "FreeBSD questions" Date: Tue, 18 Jun 96 06:48:05 -0400 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Francisco Reyes's Registered PMMail 1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: How to install Kernell sources? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I was reading the handbook section in building a new kernel. It mentions that if one does not have the sources to look at the section that tells how to install packages. Is this refering to pkg_manage or to the install one uses to install FreeBSD? I tried pkg_manage and that does not seem to be it. If it is the installation one does to install FreeBSD how does one install the sources for the kernel only without affecting the current cunfiguration? From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 03:54:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA16976 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 03:54:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA16971; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 03:54:34 -0700 (PDT) From: af@biomath.jussieu.fr Received: from mekong.biomath.jussieu.fr (mekong.biomath.jussieu.fr [134.157.72.87]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.7.5/jtpda-5.2) with SMTP id MAA03967 ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:54:30 +0200 (METDST) Received: from garfield.biomath.jussieu.fr (garfield) by mekong.biomath.jussieu.fr (5.67b/jn930126+af960507(mailhost)) at Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:54:09 +0100 Received: from (af@localhost) by garfield.biomath.jussieu.fr (8.7.5/jtpda-5.2) id MAA03573 ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:54:08 +0100 (GMT-1) Message-Id: <199606181154.MAA03573@garfield.biomath.jussieu.fr> Subject: Plan 1.5 statically linked for -stable ? To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:54:07 +0100 (GMT-1) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello FreeBSDers from all around the planet :-) I know there is a precompiled statically linked binary of plan, the X/Motif appointment tool (nice one!), but it is for -current (requires libc.so.3.0). I have hacked a link to libc.so.2.2, but pland doesn't seem to work well (never calls notifier). Unless I have overlooked something, I thought it might be due to the non-matching libc... Has anyone compiled a plan 1.5 for -release or -stable and would be willing to share it ? Thanks in advance, _Alain_ -- Alain FAUCONNET Ingenieur systeme - System Manager AP-HP/SIM Public Health 91 bld de l'Hopital 75013 PARIS FRANCE Medical Computing Research Labs Mail: af@biomath.jussieu.fr Tel: (+33) 1-40-77-96-19 Fax: (+33) 1-45-86-80-68 I've RTFMed. It says: "Refer to your system administrator" But... I *am* the system administrator :-] From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 03:59:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA17295 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 03:59:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.ineos.ac.ru (alpha.ineos.ac.ru [193.233.4.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA17289 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 03:59:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ws1 (ws1.ineos.ac.ru [193.233.4.3]) by alpha.ineos.ac.ru (8.6.12/9) with SMTP id OAA09827; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:56:02 +0400 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:56:02 +0400 Message-Id: <199606181056.OAA09827@alpha.ineos.ac.ru> X-Sender: alex@alpha.ineos.ac.ru X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: p.richards@elsevier.co.uk From: "Alexander V. Polyakov" Subject: Re: lnc0: Initialisation failed Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 11:36 AM 6/18/96 +0100, Paul Richards wrote: >>>>>> ""Alexander" == "Alexander V Polyakov" writes: > >"Alexander> Yesterday I upgraded to a new motherboard and after that >"Alexander> the ifconfig returns `Initialisation failed', though I'm >"Alexander> still using the same old kernel and my PCI network cards >"Alexander> are recognized by the lnc driver during the boot process. > >If you're still using the same kernel my first guess would be that the >cards have "moved" addresses from one board to the other. You'll need >to find out where they're being put on the new motherboard and change >the config appropriately. Stefan's going to send me some patches to >look at any day now that provide full PCI support, aren't you Stefan :-) > Of course I have changed the relevant lines in my config file so that network cards are recognized by the lnc driver. Here is an excerpt from the boot log: ... Jun 17 18:17:52 beta /kernel: lnc0 at 0x6100-0x6117 irq 10 drq 0 on isa Jun 17 18:17:53 beta /kernel: lnc0: PCnet-32 VL-Bus Ethernet controller, address 00:00:1a:40:38:02 Jun 17 18:17:53 beta /kernel: lnc1 at 0x6000-0x6017 irq 11 drq 1 on eisa slot 6 Jun 17 18:17:53 beta /kernel: lnc1: PCnet-32 VL-Bus Ethernet controller, address 00:00:1a:28:44:11 ... Jun 17 18:17:53 beta /kernel: Probing for devices on the PCI bus: Jun 17 18:17:53 beta /kernel: chip0 rev 2 on pci0:0 Jun 17 18:17:53 beta /kernel: chip1 rev 2 on pci0:7 Jun 17 18:17:53 beta /kernel: pci0:19: AMD, device=0x2000, class=network (ethernet) [no driver assigned] Jun 17 18:17:53 beta /kernel: pci0:20: AMD, device=0x2000, class=network (ethernet) [no driver assigned] ... Jun 17 18:17:54 beta /kernel: lnc0: Initialisation failed Jun 17 18:17:54 beta /kernel: lnc1: Initialisation failed Regards, Alex ------------------------------------- Alexander V. Polyakov System Administrator Institute of Organoelement Compounds, Russian Academy of Sciences. Phone: +7 095 1359331 Fax: +7 095 1358119 E-mail: alex@ineos.ac.ru From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 04:26:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA19879 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 04:26:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shogun.tdktca.com ([206.26.1.21]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA19860; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 04:26:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shogun.tdktca.com (daemon@localhost) by shogun.tdktca.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with ESMTP id GAA16318; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 06:28:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from orion.fa.tdktca.com ([163.49.131.130]) by shogun.tdktca.com (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id GAA16306; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 06:28:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from orion (alex@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by orion.fa.tdktca.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id GAA06649; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 06:29:45 -0500 Message-ID: <31C69327.32639FD9@fa.tdktca.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 06:29:43 -0500 From: Alex Nash Organization: TDK Factory Automation X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; Linux 1.2.13 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bmk@fta.com CC: "Eloy A. Paris" , questions@FreeBSD.org, hardware@FreeBSD.org, hal@wwa.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD works with Cy486DLC processors? References: <199606180348.UAA01232@everest.dtr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Brant M. Katkansky wrote: > > > I installed FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE a couple of weeks ago and since then I > > have been having programs exiting with signals 10 and 11, making my system > > too unstable to work as a dedicated e-mail server and as a PPP to Ethernet > > gateway. > > [snip] > > I had one given to me not too long ago. Mine is plagued with various > sig 10 and 11's, same as yours. > > Here's the interesting part - disabling the internal and external cache > makes the problem worse. This should be fairly easy to explain: You have bad SIMMs. While your program is running, erroneous results are returned from RAM and the processor tries to execute them. Your program subsequently seg faults due to an invalid instruction. If your cache works properly and your SIMMs don't, the cache can mitigate these effects since RAM accesses are less frequent (thus missing the odd inverted bit somewhere :) ). Disable the caches and now you will be much more likely to see a bad SIMM in action. Alex From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 04:47:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA20783 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 04:47:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ra.dkuug.dk (ra.dkuug.dk [193.88.44.193]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA20764; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 04:47:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sos@localhost) by ra.dkuug.dk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA18166; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:45:58 +0200 Message-Id: <199606181145.NAA18166@ra.dkuug.dk> Subject: Re: FreeBSD works with Cy486DLC processors? To: alex@fa.tdktca.com (Alex Nash) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:45:57 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: bmk@fta.com, Eloy.Paris@ven.ra.rockwell.com, questions@FreeBSD.org, hardware@FreeBSD.org, hal@wwa.com In-Reply-To: <31C69327.32639FD9@fa.tdktca.com> from "Alex Nash" at Jun 18, 96 06:29:43 am From: sos@FreeBSD.org Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Alex Nash who wrote: > > Brant M. Katkansky wrote: > > > > > I installed FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE a couple of weeks ago and since then I > > > have been having programs exiting with signals 10 and 11, making my system > > > too unstable to work as a dedicated e-mail server and as a PPP to Ethernet > > > gateway. > > > > [snip] > > > > I had one given to me not too long ago. Mine is plagued with various > > sig 10 and 11's, same as yours. > > > > Here's the interesting part - disabling the internal and external cache > > makes the problem worse. > > This should be fairly easy to explain: You have bad SIMMs. While your > program is running, erroneous results are returned from RAM and the > processor tries to execute them. Your program subsequently seg faults > due to an invalid instruction. If your cache works properly and your > SIMMs don't, the cache can mitigate these effects since RAM accesses are > less frequent (thus missing the odd inverted bit somewhere :) ). Disable > the caches and now you will be much more likely to see a bad SIMM in action. > Hmm, just to add another datapoint: I can run 2.1 on my 486DLC board, but -current will panic within 2 minutes with a page fault or semilar. I have a very strong feeling that our Cyrix/486DLC support leaves much to be desired, as I can make the system run better (not error free) if I disable the Cyrix code in locore.s. It seems that using the BIOS defaults (both caches on) runs alot better than what we are trying to do to it..... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Soren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team So much code to hack -- so little time. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 04:58:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA21121 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 04:58:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA21112 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 04:58:38 -0700 (PDT) From: af@biomath.jussieu.fr Received: from mekong.biomath.jussieu.fr (mekong.biomath.jussieu.fr [134.157.72.87]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.7.5/jtpda-5.2) with SMTP id NAA07684 ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:58:27 +0200 (METDST) Received: from garfield.biomath.jussieu.fr (garfield) by mekong.biomath.jussieu.fr (5.67b/jn930126+af960507(mailhost)) at Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:58:06 +0100 Received: from (af@localhost) by garfield.biomath.jussieu.fr (8.7.5/jtpda-5.2) id NAA04696 ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:58:06 +0100 (GMT-1) Message-Id: <199606181258.NAA04696@garfield.biomath.jussieu.fr> Subject: Re: Plan 1.5 statically linked for -stable To: robin@is.co.za Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:58:06 +0100 (GMT-1) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606181138.NAA23246@admin.is.co.za> from "Robin Lunn" at Jun 18, 96 01:38:03 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Robin Lunn wrote / a ecrit: > > af@biomath.jussieu.fr wrote: > > I know there is a precompiled statically linked binary of plan, the > > X/Motif appointment tool (nice one!), but it is for -current (requires > > libc.so.3.0). I have hacked a link to libc.so.2.2, but pland doesn't > > seem to work well (never calls notifier). Unless I have overlooked > > something, I thought it might be due to the non-matching libc... > > Where is this binary available from? > > -- > _ __ | Only my ideas here unless I say otherwise... > ' ) ) / | (BeamJack@IRC) > /--' ____/___o __ | "Nondum amabam, et amare amabam... quaerebam > / \_(_) /_) (__/) )_ | quid amarem, amans amare." - St Augustine > I found it at sunsite.auc.dk in: /mirrors/ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/plan-1.5-static2.tgz I think it is on any ftp.freebsd.org full mirror. Cheers, _Alain_ -- Alain FAUCONNET Ingenieur systeme - System Manager AP-HP/SIM Public Health 91 bld de l'Hopital 75013 PARIS FRANCE Medical Computing Research Labs Mail: af@biomath.jussieu.fr Tel: (+33) 1-40-77-96-19 Fax: (+33) 1-45-86-80-68 I've RTFMed. It says: "Refer to your system administrator" But... I *am* the system administrator :-] From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 05:55:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA23374 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 05:55:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blanco.sadeya.cesca.es (blanco.sadeya.cesca.es [192.94.163.146]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA23102 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 05:54:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyan.infortecnica.es ([193.148.6.29]) by blanco.sadeya.cesca.es (8.6.11/8.7.0) with SMTP id OAA20578; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:52:54 +0200 Message-ID: <31C6C255.5126@sadeya.cesca.es> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:51:01 +0000 From: Carlos Amengual Organization: SADEYA X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Willem Jan Withagen CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Informix databases References: <199606151124.NAA13652@iaehv.IAEhv.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Willem Jan Withagen wrote: > > For a customer of ours, I'm looking for a way to be able to browse his DOS > Informix database he is using. > > Are there any tools available which will run under FreeBSD which will allow > me to do that? I do not recall the specifications of the Informix DOS version, but for network client-server access with UNIX systems you need Informix-Net at both ends, and also a client application; perhaps it could be possible that the BSDI version (I suppose it exists) of Informix-net runs with FreeBSD, but I do not know it. You should ask your Informix provider. > Willem Jan Withagen. Regards -- ========================================================== Carlos Amengual - Sociedad Astronómica de España y América Avenida Diagonal, 377, 2 - 08008 Barcelona - Spain amengual@sadeya.cesca.es - http://www.sadeya.cesca.es/ ========================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 06:03:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA24720 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 06:03:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (root@buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA24712 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 06:03:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net (mmdf@buffnet1.buffnet.net [205.246.19.10]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA23591; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:05:39 GMT Received: from buffnet7.buffnet.net by buffnet1.buffnet.net id aa00126; 18 Jun 96 9:06 EDT Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:06:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen Hovey To: Paul Sondhu cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Microsoft FrontPage Server Extensions for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Frontpage opens a great big hol in security. I wont touch it. On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Paul Sondhu wrote: > > Hi, > > I was wondering if anyone out there is using the FrontPage Server > Extensions with the Microsoft FrontPage Web Editor/Manager. > > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 06:05:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA24927 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 06:05:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blanco.sadeya.cesca.es (blanco.sadeya.cesca.es [192.94.163.146]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA24920 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 06:05:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyan.infortecnica.es ([193.148.6.29]) by blanco.sadeya.cesca.es (8.6.11/8.7.0) with SMTP id OAA20574; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:52:36 +0200 Message-ID: <31C6C23F.59A4@sadeya.cesca.es> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:50:39 +0000 From: Carlos Amengual Organization: SADEYA X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Francisco Reyes CC: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: How to install Kernell sources? References: <199606181049.KAA36277@pop01.ny.us.ibm.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Francisco Reyes wrote: > > is the installation one does to install FreeBSD how does one > install the sources for the kernel only without affecting the > current cunfiguration? The installation program lets you install "kernel developer" versions (or something similar) that will install the kernel sources. You could also install it manually from the distribution or, if you have the CD-ROM, you can copy directly the sources from the "Live filesystem" disk, at /usr/src/sys, I think. Carlos -- ========================================================== Carlos Amengual - Sociedad Astronómica de España y América Avenida Diagonal, 377, 2 - 08008 Barcelona - Spain amengual@sadeya.cesca.es - http://www.sadeya.cesca.es/ ========================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 06:09:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA25169 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 06:09:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns3.mke.ab.com (ns3.mke.ab.com [130.151.86.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA25149; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 06:09:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from by ns3.mke.ab.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AB04625; Tue, 18 Jun 96 08:08:57 CDT Received: from pegasus.ven.ra.rockwell.com (pegasus.ven.ra.rockwell.com [130.151.17.156]) by zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA23123; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:08:16 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:08:16 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960618092603.301f7a92@zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com> Organization: Rockwell Automation de Venezuela X-Sender: eparis@zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: tcg@ime.net From: "Eloy A. Paris" Subject: Re: FreeBSD works with Cy486DLC processors? Cc: hardware@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Try this, Let me know what happens! >Bewarned! It'll probably sig 11 on ya! > >cd to?? I used /usr/local/bin >man -a * |& col -b > /tmp/junk.test > >The `*` is very important! It seems to work ok modified! >ie: man -a f* ... ... seems to work ok! > man -a * ... ... does not! What the heck??? It happened again!!! Look at this: Jun 18 01:31:57 skynet /kernel: pid 473: man: uid 1000: exited on signal 11 "man -a * |& col -b > /tmp/junk.test" dumped core on me and both internal and external caches where disabled!!! I am very confused now. I am gonna trash the whole dammed thing. Any suggestions? A memory problem perhaps? My memory does not have parity but I do not think that is the problem since I tried with a SIMM with parity and it happened. E.- -- Eloy A. Paris Global Technical Services Rockwell Automation de Venezuela Telephone: 58-2-9432311 Fax: 58-2-9430323 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 06:14:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA25388 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 06:14:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns3.mke.ab.com (ns3.mke.ab.com [130.151.86.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA25371; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 06:13:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from by ns3.mke.ab.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AB04705; Tue, 18 Jun 96 08:13:44 CDT Received: from pegasus.ven.ra.rockwell.com (pegasus.ven.ra.rockwell.com [130.151.17.156]) by zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA23144; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:13:02 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:13:02 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960618093049.301ff69c@zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com> Organization: Rockwell Automation de Venezuela X-Sender: eparis@zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" From: "Eloy A. Paris" Subject: Re: FreeBSD works with Cy486DLC processors? Cc: hardware@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>The faults are random. When the internal cache is enabled, I can easyly >>reproduce the fault with: > >This just reconfirms my assertions. If it runs OK with the cache off, >it's almost definitely bad caching logic in the motherboard. >. >. >. >No, this is definitely a cache coherency or memory problem. It's >possible you just have a cheap motherboard that doesn't have good >enough cache circuitry to run something as demanding as unix. Have >you tried anything else demanding on it, like Windows NT or OS/2 (or >Linux or NetBSD)? Well, I do not have an external cache. I was talking about the internal cache. That one is disabled. But anyway, what does the internal cache have to do with the mother board design? That is internal to the processor... The external cache is also disabled because I don't have one. I have not tried anything besides FreeBSD on this machine. Regards, Eloy.- -- Eloy A. Paris Global Technical Services Rockwell Automation de Venezuela Telephone: 58-2-9432311 Fax: 58-2-9430323 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 06:32:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA26156 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 06:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scugat1.abaforum.es (scugat1.abaforum.es [194.179.88.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA26147 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 06:32:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scugat3 (scugat3.abaforum.es [194.179.88.3]) by scugat1.abaforum.es (8.6.12/6.2) with SMTP id PAA07713 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:37:08 +0200 Message-ID: <31C6D9F1.416C@abaforum.es> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:31:45 -0100 From: David Llamas Organization: ABAFORUM X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b3 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Server with 128 Mbytes RAM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi!. I have one FreeBSD server with 128 Mbytes of RAM, and FreeBSD only recognize 64 Mbytes. My configuration is: Pentium 166 Mhz, Adaptec SCSI 2940 PCI, SMC Ethernet PCI and SVGA S3 video adapter. Any suggestion? Regards David Llamas ABAFORUM From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 06:41:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA26648 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 06:41:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rk.ios.com (rk.ios.com [198.4.75.55]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA26643 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 06:41:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rashid@localhost) by rk.ios.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA13296; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:39:01 -0400 From: Rashid Karimov Message-Id: <199606181339.JAA13296@rk.ios.com> Subject: Re: Rlogin delay To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:39:01 -0400 (EDT) Cc: dbabler@Rigel.orionsys.com, terry@lambert.org, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199606172302.QAA08961@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at Jun 17, 96 04:02:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there folx, > > > > > I've observed something concerning rlogin that is a bit odd to me, and > > > > increasingly annoying for my users. When a user logs off and then tries > > > > to re-log within a reasonable delay from another machine on the local > > > > network, the login will be ingored for a very long time (10-60 seconds > > > > seems typical). I checked the /etc/inetd.conf to make sure it was okay: > > > > > > Did you turn on the global SO_KEEPALIVE that everyone was talking about? > > > People who wanted this were MUD people and similar sites, without regard > > > for the impact on things that didn't expect it to be on. > > > > > I basically installed/built whetever was the standard configuration > > (2.1-stable)... I also tried the -n option for rlogind in /etc/inetd.conf > > to no effect. The first couple of relog attempts usually work in a second > > or two - subsequently, the delays required get pretty long. > > I was about to suggest -n in case it was a client problem with the connection > not being terminated correctly... > > Actually, I screwed up before, I meant to say SO_LINGER. I said > keepalive because I knew that was switchable. > > If you are globally setting SO_LINGER -- don't. > > > You may also want to check to see (via ps -gax) if the rlogind had > exited, or it's the TCP trying to ack the client that's causing > the hang. I see this behaviour for more than a year now - it's very typical. In my situation it's all FreeBSDs , so it's not a problem with brain-dead client :) by some other vendor. Rashid. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 07:00:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA27327 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 07:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tad.cetlink.net (ns1.cetlink.net [206.31.104.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA27322 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 06:59:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jeff@localhost) by tad.cetlink.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) id JAA23247; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:59:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeffrey Wheat Message-Id: <199606181359.JAA23247@tad.cetlink.net> Subject: Re: Microsoft FrontPage Server Extensions for FreeBSD To: shovey@buffnet.net (Stephen Hovey) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:59:55 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Stephen Hovey" at Jun 18, 96 09:06:43 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Stephen Hovey's email > Frontpage opens a great big hol in security. I wont touch it. Frontpage opens a big security hole if you do not follow the installation notes to the letter. Regards, Jeff > > On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Paul Sondhu wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > I was wondering if anyone out there is using the FrontPage Server > > Extensions with the Microsoft FrontPage Web Editor/Manager. > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 07:00:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA27456 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 07:00:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rk.ios.com (rk.ios.com [198.4.75.55]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA27450; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 07:00:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rashid@localhost) by rk.ios.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA13394; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:59:52 -0400 From: Rashid Karimov Message-Id: <199606181359.JAA13394@rk.ios.com> Subject: AHC/SCSI stability (resets/timeouts on SCSI) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:59:52 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there folx, I've changed the topic of some other thread here ( famous trap 12 one) to something more relevant to the Q I have. The cites below are from Justin's answer on kernel config issues. I run rather large CCD PC here - it has 3 AHA2940W and 6 HDDs in it ( it's a news server) . Works very fast - reads/writes at ~18MBs. It can ran up to a few weeks w/o any problems, but every once in a while I would see these messages in the messages file: Jun 11 21:49:45 news /kernel: ahc2: Issued Channel A Bus Reset #3. 0 SCBs aborted Jun 11 21:49:45 news /kernel: ahc2: target 1, lun 0 (sd5) timed out Jun 11 21:49:45 news /kernel: ahc2: Issued Channel A Bus Reset #3. 0 SCBs aborted /kernel: sd5(ahc2:1:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0 un 11 21:49:49 news /kernel: sd5(ahc2:1:0): Power on, reset, or bus device reset occurred field replaceable uni t: 1 Jun 11 21:49:49 news /kernel: , retries:4 Jun 11 21:49:49 news /kernel: biodone: buffer already done and machine would reboot or hang :( Sometime all three ahc* would complain ... The ahc driver is from 2.1-release I think. Is there anything I can do to make the machine more stable ? I want to give a try to ahc driver from latest 2.2.-SNAP to see how it goes . >Here is my kernel configuration: > > >controller ahc0 > >controller ahc1 > > You only need one of these. One ahc entry will attach to as many cards > as it can find in your system. I have 3 entries actually - can it somehow affect stability of the SCSI system ? I can't go with whole new kernel though - the ccd is now made as LKM and is not backward compatible as I heard ? Is there a chance I can use old ccd code with 2.2-0612-SNAP ? > > >Basically I stripped everything I didn't need in the hopes > >of expurgating the problem. > > Not quite everything. > > >An issue with the 2940W? I did have to disable wide > >transfers on the wide drive and sync negotiation for both (not sure > >which fixed it) to make the narrow drive stop rebooting the SCSI bus > >on every drive access, but that was a dozen sups and kernels ago, > >haven't had time to play with it since. > > Please confirm that you no longer need to disable wide negotiation or > lower the sync rate with the latest driver. This should be fixed. > > >Later, > >Jeff > > -- > Justin T. Gibbs Rashid. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 07:15:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA28201 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 07:15:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from persprog.com (persprog.com [204.215.255.203]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA28192 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 07:15:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by persprog.com (8.7.5/4.10) id JAA28672; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:11:47 -0500 Received: from novell(192.2.2.201) by cerberus.ppi.com via smap (V1.3) id sma028670; Tue Jun 18 10:11:41 1996 Received: from NOVELL/SpoolDir by novell.persprog.com (Mercury 1.12); Tue, 18 Jun 96 10:08:03 +0500 Received: from SpoolDir by NOVELL (Mercury 1.12); Tue, 18 Jun 96 10:07:50 +0500 From: "David Alderman" Organization: Personalized Programming, Inc. To: "Eloy A. Paris" , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:07:43 EST Subject: Re: FreeBSD works with Cy486DLC processors? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.31) Message-ID: <12E9AAE3BDA@novell.persprog.com> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 21:02:39 -0400 > Organization: Rockwell Automation de Venezuela > To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG > From: "Eloy A. Paris" > Subject: FreeBSD works with Cy486DLC processors? > Hi. > > I installed FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE a couple of weeks ago and since then I > have been having programs exiting with signals 10 and 11, making my system > too unstable to work as a dedicated e-mail server and as a PPP to Ethernet > gateway. > > I get such errors with processor intensive tasks like compiling (I got > errors like these while compiling the kernel, pppd and bind). > > My microprocessor is a Cyrix Cy486DLC running at a mother board clock rate > of 33 MHz and an internal clock rate of 100 MHz. > > Today I disabled the internal cache of the CPU and the system is behaving > quite stable since then but it is very very slooowwww. I got this error though: > > Jun 17 13:25:33 skynet /kernel: pid 2880: tr: uid 1000: exited on signal 11 > > but I want to think this is not related to my hardware problem :-( > > I have read the mail archives in www.freebsd.org and saw that someone said > that he would hardly recommend getting a Cyrix microprocessor. > > Can someone tell me what could be wrong with my hardware setup and if I > would do better getting a genuine Intel CPU? > > I am in deep trouble since I recommended to upgrade an old PC to a 486 > instead of buying a new PC for this important piece of our Information > Technology structure. This machine is going to be an e-mail server (sendmail > + pop3) and a PPP to Ethernet gateway that will connect two buildings > through a leased line. I NEED stability!!! > > I don't think there is a problem with the mother board because I have tried > with two getting the same errors. > > My hardware setup is: > > Cyrix Cy486DLC CPU > 16 Megs. of RAM > 1 GByte IDE hard drive > FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE > > Any hint will be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks in advance. > > Eloy.- > > -- > > Eloy A. Paris It is very unlikely that your processor is a 486DLC if it runs internally at 100MHz. More likely, it is a 486DX4 from Cyrix that FreeBSD has mistakenly identified. Most other CPU ID programs will mistakenly identify at least some of the Cyrix chips (in my case it was a Cyrix 486/80). If I remember correctly, aren't DLC chips 386 pinout chips from Cyrix and TI that claimed 486-class performance? The early versions had a few bugs in the instruction set. > Global Technical Services > Rockwell Automation de Venezuela > Telephone: 58-2-9432311 Fax: 58-2-9430323 > > ====================================== When philosophy conflicts with reality, choose reality. Dave Alderman -- dave@persprog.com ====================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 07:31:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA29293 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 07:31:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns3.mke.ab.com (ns3.mke.ab.com [130.151.86.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA29284; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 07:31:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from by ns3.mke.ab.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AB05961; Tue, 18 Jun 96 09:31:01 CDT Received: from pegasus.ven.ra.rockwell.com (pegasus.ven.ra.rockwell.com [130.151.17.156]) by zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA23492; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:30:16 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:30:16 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960618104803.1597ca9a@zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com> Organization: Rockwell Automation de Venezuela X-Sender: eparis@zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "M.R.Murphy" From: "Eloy A. Paris" Subject: Re: FreeBSD works with Cy486DLC processors? Cc: questions@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Are you sure it's a 486DLC CPU? I have a system with a Cyrix 486DLC >(running System V R2), and it's a 40MHz part and is not clock-multiplied. >I also have a newer Cyrix486DX2/66 system (which will not run at 33MHz, >but is fine at 25MHz making it in reality a DX2/50). At 33MHz it gets >random odd hardware errors including both hangs and signal 4, 10 and 11. >I'm satisfied with it at 25MHz since it just acts as a PPP connection and >firewall and a DX2/50 is fast enough for that. Ooppss!!! You are absolutely right. My CPU is a 486DX4 NOT a 486DLC. The problem was that I was looking at what the kernel gives me at boot time: FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE #2: Mon Jun 17 12:22:05 AST 1996 eparis@skynet.ven.ra.rockwell.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/SKYNET CPU: Cy486DLC (486-class CPU) Origin = "Cyrix" . . . The processor has "486DX4" written on top of it. My apologies for causing this confussion. >If it works sometimes and not others, then the probability of a hardware >problem is greater. I agree. This has to be a hardware problem, nothing more, nothing less. Can it be that the problem is that FreeBSD is mistakenly identifying the processor? Can I force FreeBSD to correctly identify the processor? Regards, Eloy.- -- Eloy A. Paris Global Technical Services Rockwell Automation de Venezuela Telephone: 58-2-9432311 Fax: 58-2-9430323 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 07:47:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA00581 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 07:47:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns3.mke.ab.com (ns3.mke.ab.com [130.151.86.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA00572; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 07:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com ([130.151.17.154]) by ns3.mke.ab.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06194; Tue, 18 Jun 96 09:46:58 CDT Received: from pegasus.ven.ra.rockwell.com (pegasus.ven.ra.rockwell.com [130.151.17.156]) by zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA23553; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:46:38 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:46:38 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960618110424.1597f8b6@zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com> Organization: Rockwell Automation de Venezuela X-Sender: eparis@zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@FreeBSD.org, hardware@FreeBSD.org From: "Eloy A. Paris" Subject: (correction) FreeBSD works with Cy486DLC processors? Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi. >My microprocessor is a Cyrix Cy486DLC running at a mother board clock rate of >33 MHz and an internal clock rate of 100 MHz. My apologies: my microprocessor IS NOT a 486DLC, it's a 486DX4. Some people out there have pointed that out (thank you guys). I should have believed to what is written on top of the microprocessor and not to what the kernel says: FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE #2: Mon Jun 17 12:22:05 AST 1996 eparis@skynet.ven.ra.rockwell.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/SKYNET CPU: Cy486DLC (486-class CPU) Origin = "Cyrix" . . . Summarizing, what I have is: Cyrix 486DX4 CPU (it says "IBM" on top of it but in the bottom it says "Cyrix") 16 Megs. of RAM 1 GByte IDE hard drive (entire disk for FreeBSD) No external cache FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE Getting signals 10 and 11 (mostly 11's) with internal cache enabled and disabled. More faults with the cache enabled. I do not know if the problem can be that FreeBSD thinks it is dealing with a kind of processor when in fact it is running on another type. Thanks. Eloy.- -- Eloy A. Paris Global Technical Services Rockwell Automation de Venezuela Telephone: 58-2-9432311 Fax: 58-2-9430323 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 07:50:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA00873 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 07:50:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uu.elvisti.kiev.ua (acc0.elvisti.kiev.ua [193.125.28.132]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA00444; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 07:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from office.elvisti.kiev.ua (office.elvisti.kiev.ua [193.125.28.129]) by uu.elvisti.kiev.ua (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA19146; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:45:41 +0300 (EET DST) Received: (from stesin@localhost) by office.elvisti.kiev.ua (8.6.12/8.ElVisti) id RAA02224; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:45:40 +0300 From: "Andrew V. Stesin" Message-Id: <199606181445.RAA02224@office.elvisti.kiev.ua> Subject: Re: FreeBSD works with Cy486DLC processors? To: Eloy.Paris@ven.ra.rockwell.com (Eloy A. Paris) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:45:40 +0300 (EET DST) Cc: tcg@ime.net, hardware@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19960618092603.301f7a92@zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com> from "Eloy A. Paris" at Jun 18, 96 09:08:16 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha5] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk # Any suggestions? Try another CPU -- Intel or AMD (AMD 5x86 strongly recommended, in case your motherboard supports it. If it doesn't, you may try jumper settings for Intel P24D -- theyr'e Ok for AMD 133 too) # A memory problem perhaps? Maybe. Or motherboard (what's it, by the way?) # My memory does not have parity # but I do not think that is the problem since I tried with a SIMM with parity # and it happened. I'm not aware of any recent 486 chipset which supports RAM parity. So SIMM either with or without parity -- it doesn't really matter, I think. -- With best regards -- Andrew Stesin. +380 (44) 2760188 +380 (44) 2713457 +380 (44) 2713560 "You may delegate authority, but not responsibility." Frank's Management Rule #1. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 07:51:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA00977 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 07:51:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crh.cl.msu.edu (crh.cl.msu.edu [35.8.1.24]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA00967 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 07:51:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from henrich@localhost) by crh.cl.msu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA02719 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:51:17 -0400 From: Charles Henrich Message-Id: <199606181451.KAA02719@crh.cl.msu.edu> Subject: A useful mirror, anywhere?! To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:51:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone, anywhere, have a mirror that actually works?! The one out of ports just spins, the one I had previously bloats and sucks up 200MB ram and dies. Do I really need to write a C version of this beasty? -Crh Charles Henrich Michigan State University henrich@msu.edu http://pilot.msu.edu/~henrich From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 07:53:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA01155 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 07:53:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dtr.com ([205.139.102.204]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA01029; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 07:51:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from everest.dtr.com (everest.dtr.com [199.26.157.34]) by dtr.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id HAA05538; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 07:47:09 -0700 Received: (from bmk@localhost) by everest.dtr.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id HAA02502; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 07:46:49 -0700 Message-Id: <199606181446.HAA02502@everest.dtr.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD works with Cy486DLC processors? To: alex@fa.tdktca.com (Alex Nash) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 07:46:49 -0700 (PDT) Cc: bmk@fta.com, Eloy.Paris@ven.ra.rockwell.com, questions@FreeBSD.org, hardware@FreeBSD.org, hal@wwa.com In-Reply-To: <31C69327.32639FD9@fa.tdktca.com> from "Alex Nash" at Jun 18, 96 06:29:43 am From: "Brant M. Katkansky" Reply-To: bmk@fta.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Brant M. Katkansky wrote: > > > > > I installed FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE a couple of weeks ago and since then I > > > have been having programs exiting with signals 10 and 11, making my system > > > too unstable to work as a dedicated e-mail server and as a PPP to Ethernet > > > gateway. > > > > [snip] > > > > I had one given to me not too long ago. Mine is plagued with various > > sig 10 and 11's, same as yours. > > > > Here's the interesting part - disabling the internal and external cache > > makes the problem worse. > This should be fairly easy to explain: You have bad SIMMs. While your > program is running, erroneous results are returned from RAM and the > processor tries to execute them. Your program subsequently seg faults > due to an invalid instruction. If your cache works properly and your > SIMMs don't, the cache can mitigate these effects since RAM accesses are > less frequent (thus missing the odd inverted bit somewhere :) ). Disable > the caches and now you will be much more likely to see a bad SIMM in action. That hadn't occurred to me - I was operating under the assumption that the board was garbage. I'll swap out the RAM and see what happens... From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 08:05:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA01915 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:05:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mole.mole.org (marmot.mole.org [204.216.57.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA01894; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:05:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mole.mole.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA18563; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:05:29 GMT Received: from meerkat.mole.org(206.197.192.110) by mole.mole.org via smap (V1.3) id sma018554; Tue Jun 18 15:04:59 1996 Received: (from mrm@localhost) by meerkat.mole.org (8.6.11/8.6.9) id IAA19813; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:04:58 -0700 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:04:58 -0700 From: "M.R.Murphy" Message-Id: <199606181504.IAA19813@meerkat.mole.org> To: Eloy.Paris@ven.ra.rockwell.com, hardware@FreeBSD.org, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: (correction) FreeBSD works with Cy486DLC processors? Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi. > > >My microprocessor is a Cyrix Cy486DLC running at a mother board clock rate of > >33 MHz and an internal clock rate of 100 MHz. > > My apologies: my microprocessor IS NOT a 486DLC, it's a 486DX4. Some people > out there have pointed that out (thank you guys). > > I should have believed to what is written on top of the microprocessor and > not to what the kernel says: > > FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE #2: Mon Jun 17 12:22:05 AST 1996 > eparis@skynet.ven.ra.rockwell.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/SKYNET > CPU: Cy486DLC (486-class CPU) > Origin = "Cyrix" > Drop the clock from 33MHz to 25MHz, reenable the internal cache, and see if the stability improves. I've encountered 2 Cyrix CPU's that were unstable at the speed marked on the chip. -- Mike Murphy mrm@Mole.ORG +1 619 598 5874 Better is the enemy of Good From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 08:13:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA02630 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home.lenzi (callc.bsi.com.br [200.250.250.73]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA02604; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:12:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lenzi@localhost) by home.lenzi (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA02728; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:49:51 GMT Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:49:51 +0000 () From: "Lenzi, Sergio" X-Sender: lenzi@home To: "Eloy A. Paris" cc: questions@FreeBSD.org, hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD works with Cy486DLC processors? In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19960617212013.1a17e424@zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hell Eloy. I am one that "prefers" cyrix.. Ok if it is a dlc processor. I recoment you to disable only the external cache. The problem seems to be between the external cache controller and the dma logic. I have such a machine like yours with the external cache disable and the system works OK. Remember also to enable parity check on the memory banks. and check for slow refreshes option on the setup menu. Hope this will help. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 08:14:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA02740 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:14:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA02716 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:13:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id LAA00321; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:50:54 GMT Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:50:54 GMT Message-Id: <199606181150.LAA00321@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: dbabler@Rigel.orionsys.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Dave Babler on Mon, 17 Jun 1996 19:07:57 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: Gopher man pages? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I seem to be having a problem installing gopher from the ports > collection. Specifically, the installation produces the gopher client > correctly and it works fine... except that there are -NO- man pages. I've Hmm. There don't seem to be any man page files in this package for some reason... You should probably report this to ports@freebsd.org. > No man 1 or man 8 entries for gopher, gopherd, > gophfilt or anything else (no apropos hits for anything, as would be > expected). What am I missing here? Nothing - if it ain't installed 'em, you ain't got 'em. 8-) As you mention trying to do a 'make install', you've presumably got the source in the ports directory. In which case, you can simply install them by hand:- # cd /usr/ports/net/gopher/work/gopher2_1_3/doc # cp *.1 /usr/share/man/man1 # cp *.5 /usr/share/man/man5 # cp *.8 /usr/share/man/man8 The install program would run 'gzip -9' on the man pages before copying them - you can do this as well, if you're short on diskspace, or feeling conscientious. 8-) -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 08:19:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA02910 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:19:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA02898 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:19:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA09667; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:18:57 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:18:57 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9606181518.AA09667@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Shigeo Matsuzawa / =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPj5fNxsoQg==?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCTFBNOhsoQg==?= Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Question In-Reply-To: <199606180644.PAA00684@genuine.isl.rdc.toshiba.co.jp> References: <199606180644.PAA00684@genuine.isl.rdc.toshiba.co.jp> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > Our question is, in this case, what procedures do we have to do ? You have to follow the restrictions set out in the Berkeley license. Essentially this means that there are certain things you cannot advertise, and you must give credit to about forty-five different developers and organizations in any documentation you write for your product. The GNU stuff is obviously different. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 08:25:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA03325 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:25:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from s4.elec.uq.edu.au (haytham@s4.elec.uq.edu.au [130.102.96.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA03314 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:25:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from haytham@localhost) by s4.elec.uq.edu.au (8.7.1/8.6.12) id BAA17467; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 01:24:49 +1000 (EST) From: Haytham Algyndy Message-Id: <199606181524.BAA17467@s4.elec.uq.edu.au> Subject: IDE CDROM configuration To: questions@freebsd.com Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 01:24:48 +1000 (EST) Cc: jkh@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi I'm a bit confused about configuring the CDROM. The CDROM that I'm using is a Creative-Labs CD, (It is detected by win95 as a Goldstar GCD-R542B) Quad speed and is connected alone to the secondary IDE port. The following lines are added to my kernel. options ATAPI options "CD9660" controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 vector wdintr device wcd0 The machine is a 486 DX2 clone, with a 1.7GB IBM disk, NE2000 compatible card. Now In the handbook, the wcd0 is referred to as controller rather than device. I've tried compiling my kernel for each (controller & device) and I get /dev/wcd0c device not configured message whenever I try to mount my CD in each situation. Any help appreciated Thank you haytham -- ________________________________________________________________________ Haytham Abd-Alsalam Algyndy Dept. of Elec. and Comp. Eng. The UNIVERSITY of QUEENSLAND Brisbane 4072, Queensland Australia haytham@elec.uq.edu.au tel. 61 - 07 - 365 356 4 (AW) Fax. 61 - 07 - 365 499 9 ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 08:32:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA03747 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:32:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from portal.spi.net ([199.238.225.153]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA03738; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:32:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MindBender.HeadCandy.com (root@MindBender.HeadCandy.com [199.238.225.168]) by portal.spi.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA26603; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:32:38 -0700 Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.HeadCandy.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA16018; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:32:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606181532.IAA16018@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.HeadCandy.com: Host michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Alex Nash cc: bmk@fta.com, "Eloy A. Paris" , questions@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org, hal@wwa.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD works with Cy486DLC processors? In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 18 Jun 96 06:29:43 -0500. <31C69327.32639FD9@fa.tdktca.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:32:28 -0700 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> > I installed FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE a couple of weeks ago and since then I >> > have been having programs exiting with signals 10 and 11, making my system >> > too unstable to work as a dedicated e-mail server and as a PPP to Ethernet >> > gateway. >> I had one given to me not too long ago. Mine is plagued with various >> sig 10 and 11's, same as yours. >> Here's the interesting part - disabling the internal and external cache >> makes the problem worse. >This should be fairly easy to explain: You have bad SIMMs. While your >program is running, erroneous results are returned from RAM and the >processor tries to execute them. Your program subsequently seg faults >due to an invalid instruction. This is a good candidate for the cause on the second guy's motherboard, since the problem gets worse when he turns off cache. >If your cache works properly and your >SIMMs don't, the cache can mitigate these effects since RAM accesses are >less frequent (thus missing the odd inverted bit somewhere :) ). Disable >the caches and now you will be much more likely to see a bad SIMM in action. This is typically the cause with motherboards that have 486DLC chips in them -- they're so cheap (usually just a 386 motherboard) that the cache coherency circuitry is bad to nonexistant. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@HeadCandy.com --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... Roll your own Internet access -- Seattle People's Internet cooperative. If you're in the Seattle area, ask me how. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 08:39:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA04179 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:39:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halon.barra.COM (halon.barra.com [144.203.11.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA04151 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:39:49 -0700 (PDT) From: William.Ying@ccgate.Barra.COM Received: from lazarus.barra.COM (lazarus.barra.com [144.203.2.57]) by halon.barra.COM (8.6.4/8.6.4) with ESMTP id IAA16293 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:40:55 -0700 Received: from ccgate.barra.com (ccgate.barra.com [144.203.4.245]) by lazarus.barra.COM (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id IAA21444 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:39:47 -0700 Received: from cc:Mail by ccgate.barra.com id AA835112464; Tue, 18 Jun 96 08:34:08 PST Date: Tue, 18 Jun 96 08:34:08 PST Message-Id: <9605188351.AA835112464@ccgate.barra.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Primary or Logical Partition Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Can FreeBSD be installed on a Extended Logical Partition of a hard drive? It seems like when I use FreeBSD fdisk to create a partition, it automatically creates a primary partition. Is there a way to make it be a logical partition? Thank you very much! - Bill - From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 08:41:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA04389 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:41:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from portal.spi.net ([199.238.225.153]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA04381; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:41:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MindBender.HeadCandy.com (root@MindBender.HeadCandy.com [199.238.225.168]) by portal.spi.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA26614; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:41:18 -0700 Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.HeadCandy.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA16069; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606181541.IAA16069@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.HeadCandy.com: Host michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: sos@freebsd.org cc: alex@fa.tdktca.com (Alex Nash), bmk@fta.com, Eloy.Paris@ven.ra.rockwell.com, questions@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org, hal@wwa.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD works with Cy486DLC processors? In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 18 Jun 96 13:45:57 +0200. <199606181145.NAA18166@ra.dkuug.dk> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:41:15 -0700 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Hmm, just to add another datapoint: >I can run 2.1 on my 486DLC board, but -current will panic within >2 minutes with a page fault or semilar. I have a very strong >feeling that our Cyrix/486DLC support leaves much to be desired, >as I can make the system run better (not error free) if I disable >the Cyrix code in locore.s. It seems that using the BIOS defaults >(both caches on) runs alot better than what we are trying to do >to it..... Actually, you shouldn't touch that DLC-specific code unless 1) you know what it does, 2) you have a non-traditional motherboard that has a chance of actually working. I believe that code was taken from NetBSD. If not, then what I'm about to say has no relevance. If it is, then I originally wrote it. CYRIX_CACHE_WORKS turns on the DLC cache, but in a mode where it flushes whenever a bus hold signal is asserted. This is intended for DLCs in 386 motherboards. Generally it works well only when there are no busmaster devices (like a completely IDE system). CYRIX_CACHE_REALLY_WORKS turns on the cache in fully-enabled mode. This should ONLY be used on motherboards specifically designed for a DLC where the cache coherency circuitry is known to work. But where the BIOS doesn't set the cache properly. You should NOT enable either of these features if your BIOS already does the right thing. Basically the root problem is twofold: 1) the kernel has _no_ way to know what the right thing to do is, because it can't know how your motherboard is designed, so it needs help by you setting the right option, and 2) the 486DLC is sometimes expected to do an impossible task: running in a 386 motherboard that has absolutely no support for cache coherency. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@HeadCandy.com --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... Roll your own Internet access -- Seattle People's Internet cooperative. If you're in the Seattle area, ask me how. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 08:48:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA04819 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:48:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from portal.spi.net ([199.238.225.153]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA04799; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:48:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MindBender.HeadCandy.com (root@MindBender.HeadCandy.com [199.238.225.168]) by portal.spi.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA26626; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:48:24 -0700 Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.HeadCandy.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA16110; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:48:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606181548.IAA16110@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.HeadCandy.com: Host michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: "Eloy A. Paris" cc: hardware@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD works with Cy486DLC processors? In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 18 Jun 96 09:13:02 -0400. <2.2.16.19960618093049.301ff69c@zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:48:14 -0700 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Well, I do not have an external cache. I was talking about the internal >cache. That one is disabled. But anyway, what does the internal cache have >to do with the mother board design? That is internal to the processor... The >external cache is also disabled because I don't have one. The CPU's internal cache requires the motherboard to help it with bus snooping and invalidating addresses that another bus-master on the bus writes. I. e. without help, if a bus-master writes something to memory that is also in the cache, the CPU has no idea that data has just become stale without help from the motherboard. So now there is data in the cache that is different from that same address' data in RAM. (Yes, I know there are smarter processors, but AFAIK this is how the 486DLC does it.) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@HeadCandy.com --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... Roll your own Internet access -- Seattle People's Internet cooperative. If you're in the Seattle area, ask me how. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 08:49:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA04864 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:49:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA04859 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:49:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.2]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id IAA01651 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:49:40 -0700 Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-20.ime.net [206.231.149.29]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA01240; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:49:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31C6D020.2AAE@ime.net> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:49:52 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Hovey CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Microsoft FrontPage Server Extensions for FreeBSD References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Stephen Hovey wrote: > > Frontpage opens a great big hol in security. I wont touch it. > Could you elaborate please? (Just the Basic) Thanks Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 08:53:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA05090 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:53:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA05083 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:53:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by ref.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA16073 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:51:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA07001; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:26:00 +0300 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:25:59 +0300 (EET DST) From: Narvi To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Talk problems btw. FreeBSD & Sun Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk HI! I am having problems with talk between a FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE machine and a Sun4M running SunOS 5.5 (or so the uname reports). The problem is - it is not possible to either talk from FreeBSD to the sun (using talk user@sun.machine) or from the Sun to FreeBSD (using talk user@freebsd.machine). Tcpdump shows packets comming from the Sun machine to the FreeBSD machine and icmp messages "udp port talk unreachable" going pack to the Sun. Net result (=sympotms): In both cases on (FreeBSD -> Sun, Sun -> FreeBSD) talk just keeps displaying messages "checking for invitation on callers machine" without any progress. The /etc/inetd.conf file reads (a bit shortened): # # Internet server configuration database # # @(#)inetd.conf 5.4 (Berkeley) 6/30/90 # ftp stream tcp nowait root /usr/libexec/ftpd ftpd -ll -S telnet stream tcp nowait root /usr/libexec/telnetd telnetd shell stream tcp nowait root /usr/libexec/rshd rshd login stream tcp nowait root /usr/libexec/rlogind rlogind #exec stream tcp nowait root /usr/libexec/rexecd rexecd uucpd stream tcp nowait root /usr/libexec/uucpd uucpd #nntp stream tcp nowait usenet /usr/libexec/nntpd nntpd finger stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/libexec/fingerd fingerd -s tftp dgram udp wait nobody /usr/libexec/tftpd tftpd comsat dgram udp wait root /usr/libexec/comsat comsat #talk dgram udp wait root /usr/old/talkd talkd ntalk dgram udp wait root /usr/libexec/ntalkd ntalkd #ident stream tcp wait root /usr/local/sbin/identd identd -w -t120 echo stream tcp nowait root internal [rest snipped] Could the cause be the commented-out talk line? But there is no /usr/old directory... With thanx in advance, Sander PS. I am in no way in the control of the Sun, and don't know of any parameters set over there - but the FreeBSD box is just abou the only one with which talk is impossible. With thanx in advance, Sander From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 08:57:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA05438 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mole.mole.org (marmot.mole.org [204.216.57.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA05407; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:57:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mole.mole.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA18886; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:57:28 GMT Received: from meerkat.mole.org(206.197.192.110) by mole.mole.org via smap (V1.3) id sma018884; Tue Jun 18 15:57:27 1996 Received: (from mrm@localhost) by meerkat.mole.org (8.6.11/8.6.9) id IAA20006; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:57:26 -0700 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:57:26 -0700 From: "M.R.Murphy" Message-Id: <199606181557.IAA20006@meerkat.mole.org> To: michaelv@HeadCandy.com, sos@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD works with Cy486DLC processors? Cc: alex@fa.tdktca.com, bmk@fta.com, Eloy.Paris@ven.ra.rockwell.com, hal@wwa.com, hardware@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Actually, you shouldn't touch that DLC-specific code unless 1) you > know what it does, 2) you have a non-traditional motherboard that has > a chance of actually working. > What do you think is a reasonable thing to do if Eloy's 486DX4/100 is being misidentified as a 486DLC? -- Mike Murphy mrm@Mole.ORG +1 619 598 5874 Better is the enemy of Good From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 08:59:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA05498 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:59:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from portal.spi.net ([199.238.225.153]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA05493; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:59:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MindBender.HeadCandy.com (root@MindBender.HeadCandy.com [199.238.225.168]) by portal.spi.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA26638; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:58:55 -0700 Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.HeadCandy.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA16170; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:58:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606181558.IAA16170@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.HeadCandy.com: Host michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: "Eloy A. Paris" cc: "M.R.Murphy" , questions@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD works with Cy486DLC processors? In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 18 Jun 96 10:30:16 -0400. <2.2.16.19960618104803.1597ca9a@zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 08:58:50 -0700 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Ooppss!!! You are absolutely right. My CPU is a 486DX4 NOT a 486DLC. The >problem was that I was looking at what the kernel gives me at boot time: >FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE #2: Mon Jun 17 12:22:05 AST 1996 > eparis@skynet.ven.ra.rockwell.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/SKYNET >CPU: Cy486DLC (486-class CPU) > Origin = "Cyrix" Yeah, that's a bone-headed move on Cyrix' part. The DLC identification code was originally taken out of a piece of code used to identify DLC/SLC parts, published in a Cyrix manual. Then, the idiots went and made their DX processors respond the same way to the same test! >The processor has "486DX4" written on top of it. My apologies for causing >this confussion. >Can it be that the problem is that FreeBSD is mistakenly identifying the >processor? Can I force FreeBSD to correctly identify the processor? Unlikely. That message is just telling you what FreeBSD found. Unless someone has significantly changed the code since the last time I read it, the kernel should just be using the processor the way the BIOS sets it up. Keeping in mind that you have a DX processor, and are seeing those problems, you probably just have a badly designed motherboard, and that CPU might work OK in a better motherboard. Alternatively, you might be overheating the CPU if it's a 100MHz part. Make sure your CPU fan is securly fastened and makes uniform contact across the entire surface of the chip. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@HeadCandy.com --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... Roll your own Internet access -- Seattle People's Internet cooperative. If you're in the Seattle area, ask me how. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 09:05:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA05986 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:05:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from garion.hq.ferg.com (pm1-21.wmbg.widomaker.com [204.17.220.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA05972 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:04:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.hq.ferg.com (localhost.hq.ferg.com [127.0.0.1]) by garion.hq.ferg.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA00547 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:05:11 -0400 Message-Id: <199606181605.MAA00547@garion.hq.ferg.com> X-Authentication-Warning: garion.hq.ferg.com: Host localhost.hq.ferg.com didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 5/3/96 From: Branson Matheson To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Sound and Light... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:05:10 -0400 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have two questions/problems... 1. I am working with my wonderful new ( cheap ) sb clone. It is plug and break but that is another issue... I have it working correctly under MSDOG and it shows up just fine on my HP ( has PnB built into the MB ) and I can play sounds.. sort of... take for instance the budfrogs.au.. I get thru a couple of crickets and a resounding 'BUD' and then nothing... it also manages to lock-up my au server and auplay. I have to kill it off. xmix seems to work fine.. but au and rplay both lockup after the BUD. Config.. 0x220, IRQ7, DMA 1 ( I have diabled the lp port ). anyone have any idears? 2. I was working with my wonderful new ( cheap ) I/O board last night and I connected my TW523 to it so that I could start controlling the airconditioner again... but it is not showing up... at boot it pauses for a sec .. but the TW523 doesn't blink ( which it usta ). Now I am not rulling out that the TW could be hosed... but has anyone else used the tw device driver with 2.2-SNAP or 2.1 stable? - branson ============================================================================= Branson Matheson | Ferguson Enterprises | If Pete and Repeat were System Administrator | W: (804) 874-7795 | sittin on a fence and Pete Unix, Perl, WWW | branson@widomaker.com | fell off, who is left? From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 09:05:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA06014 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:05:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA06005 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:05:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-20.ime.net [206.231.149.29]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA02266; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:04:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31C6D3C9.1551@ime.net> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:05:30 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Llamas CC: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Server with 128 Mbytes RAM References: <31C6D9F1.416C@abaforum.es> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk David Llamas wrote: > > Hi!. I have one FreeBSD server with 128 Mbytes of RAM, and FreeBSD only recognize 64 Mbytes. > You need to add: options "MAXMEM=n" to your kernel config. Where n is your memory in Kilobytes. For a 128 MB machine, you'd want to use 131072. Then re-compile your kernel! Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 09:06:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA06165 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:06:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from portal.spi.net ([199.238.225.153]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA06140; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:06:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MindBender.HeadCandy.com (root@MindBender.HeadCandy.com [199.238.225.168]) by portal.spi.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA26655; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:06:00 -0700 Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.HeadCandy.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA16254; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:05:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606181605.JAA16254@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.HeadCandy.com: Host michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: "M.R.Murphy" cc: sos@freebsd.org, alex@fa.tdktca.com, bmk@fta.com, Eloy.Paris@ven.ra.rockwell.com, hal@wwa.com, hardware@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD works with Cy486DLC processors? In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 18 Jun 96 08:57:26 -0700. <199606181557.IAA20006@meerkat.mole.org> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:05:54 -0700 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> Actually, you shouldn't touch that DLC-specific code unless 1) you >> know what it does, 2) you have a non-traditional motherboard that has >> a chance of actually working. >What do you think is a reasonable thing to do if Eloy's 486DX4/100 is >being misidentified as a 486DLC? Get a different motherboard (ASUS highly recommended); get a different processor (AMD is very highly recommended -- I just got an AMD 5x86 and it works great in my 486 motherboard). ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@HeadCandy.com --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... Roll your own Internet access -- Seattle People's Internet cooperative. If you're in the Seattle area, ask me how. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 09:17:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA07078 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:17:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA07067 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:17:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by ref.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA00172 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:17:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA02044; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:12:39 -0600 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:12:39 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199606181612.KAA02044@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: Narvi Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Talk problems btw. FreeBSD & Sun In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I am having problems with talk between a FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE machine > and a Sun4M running SunOS 5.5 (or so the uname reports). The problem is - > it is not possible to either talk from FreeBSD to the sun (using talk > user@sun.machine) or from the Sun to FreeBSD (using talk > user@freebsd.machine). That's because Sun uses a *very* old (6-7 years) version of talk that doesn't work over machines that use different byte orders, sucn as Sun's and PC's. The *ONLY* machines that Sun's will 'talk' to are other suns. You could install a newer talk on the Sun's if it's really important. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 09:21:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA07252 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:21:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from garion.hq.ferg.com (pm1-21.wmbg.widomaker.com [204.17.220.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA07246 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:21:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.hq.ferg.com (localhost.hq.ferg.com [127.0.0.1]) by garion.hq.ferg.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA00776; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:21:05 -0400 Message-Id: <199606181621.MAA00776@garion.hq.ferg.com> X-Authentication-Warning: garion.hq.ferg.com: Host localhost.hq.ferg.com didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 5/3/96 From: Branson Matheson To: Narvi cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Talk problems btw. FreeBSD & Sun In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:25:59 +0300." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:21:04 -0400 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -------- Narvi uttered with conviction: > > HI! > >I am having problems with talk between a FreeBSD 2.1. 0-RELEASE machine >and a Sun4M running SunOS 5.5 (or so the uname report s). And so you will... those are two different version/protocols of talk. You have a couple of options... run and irc server/client use write ( need to be logged in on the same machine ) compile a common version of talk on both machines ;-) -branson ============================================================================= Branson Matheson | Ferguson Enterprises | If Pete and Repeat were System Administrator | W: (804) 874-7795 | sittin on a fence and Pete Unix, Perl, WWW | branson@widomaker.com | fell off, who is left? From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 09:30:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA07776 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:30:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA07771 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:30:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by ref.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA00323 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA07737; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 19:30:26 +0300 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 19:30:25 +0300 (EET DST) From: Narvi To: Branson Matheson cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Talk problems btw. FreeBSD & Sun In-Reply-To: <199606181621.MAA00776@garion.hq.ferg.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Branson Matheson wrote: > -------- > > Narvi uttered with conviction: > > > > HI! > > > >I am having problems with talk between a FreeBSD 2.1. > 0-RELEASE machine > >and a Sun4M running SunOS 5.5 (or so the uname report > s). > > And so you will... those are two different version/protocols of talk. You > have a couple of options... > > run and irc server/client > > use write ( need to be logged in on the same machine ) > > compile a common version of talk on both machines ;-) So where can I get a version of talk compatiblewith the one on the Sun? I have no control (and even not an account) on the Sun, so I can do nothing on that side... Sander > > -branson > ============================================================================= > Branson Matheson | Ferguson Enterprises | If Pete and Repeat were > System Administrator | W: (804) 874-7795 | sittin on a fence and Pete > Unix, Perl, WWW | branson@widomaker.com | fell off, who is left? > > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 09:32:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA07968 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:32:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA07963 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:32:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA02174; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:32:00 -0600 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:32:00 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199606181632.KAA02174@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: Narvi Cc: Nate Williams , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Talk problems btw. FreeBSD & Sun In-Reply-To: References: <199606181612.KAA02044@rocky.sri.MT.net> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [ Talk problems Sun <-> FreeBSD ] > > That's because Sun uses a *very* old (6-7 years) version of talk that > > doesn't work over machines that use different byte orders, sucn as Sun's > > and PC's. The *ONLY* machines that Sun's will 'talk' to are other suns. > > Now that's awfull!!! Weren't the things meant to be consistent in the use > of byte order? They were once it was figured out, but Sun never shipped the new versions since it's *NOT* backwards compatible with the old version. :( > Perhaps there is a way of getting that /usr/old/talk? I'm not sure, but ytalk *might* be able to talk to the Suns. Someone with more experience in that matter may be able to verify that. Download ytalk and check the docs. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 09:34:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA08024 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:34:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cactus.fi.uba.ar (cactus.fi.uba.ar [157.92.49.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA07642 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cactus.fi.uba.ar (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cactus.fi.uba.ar (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA00236 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:33:48 GMT Message-ID: <31C6B03B.41C67EA6@cactus.fi.uba.ar> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:33:47 +0000 From: Miguel Angel Sagreras Organization: Universidad de Buenos Aires X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: To be freebsd mirror X-URL: http://freebsd.org/support.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk We want to be a FreeBSD mirror in my University here in Argentina What we need to be a FreeBSD mirror ? -- Miguel A. Sagreras Facultad de ingenieria Universidad de Buenos Aires e-mail : msagre@cactus.fi.uba.ar From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 09:35:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA08089 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:35:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA08080 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:35:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by ref.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA00418 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:35:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA07821; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 19:34:44 +0300 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 19:34:44 +0300 (EET DST) From: Narvi To: Nate Williams cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Talk problems btw. FreeBSD & Sun In-Reply-To: <199606181612.KAA02044@rocky.sri.MT.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Nate Williams wrote: > > I am having problems with talk between a FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE machine > > and a Sun4M running SunOS 5.5 (or so the uname reports). The problem is - > > it is not possible to either talk from FreeBSD to the sun (using talk > > user@sun.machine) or from the Sun to FreeBSD (using talk > > user@freebsd.machine). > > That's because Sun uses a *very* old (6-7 years) version of talk that > doesn't work over machines that use different byte orders, sucn as Sun's > and PC's. The *ONLY* machines that Sun's will 'talk' to are other suns. Now that's awfull!!! Weren't the things meant to be consistent in the use of byte order? > > You could install a newer talk on the Sun's if it's really important. I can't do anything on the Sun - I don't even have an account on it, but it's my users who complain... Perhaps there is a way of getting that /usr/old/talk? Sander > > Nate > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 09:41:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA08385 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uswgco2.uswc.uswest.com (uswgco2.uswest.com [206.196.133.74]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA08380 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:41:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by uswgco2.uswc.uswest.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id KAA09997; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:37:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from egate.mnet.uswest.com(151.116.23.138) by uswgco2.uswc.uswest.com via smap (V1.3) id sma009964; Tue Jun 18 10:37:29 1996 Received: from easthub (easthub.mnet.uswest.com [151.117.26.86]) by egate.mnet.uswest.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA20659; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:37:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: by easthub.mnet.uswest.com (M-Net Hub.951228) Received: from astro.acs.uswest.com by acs.uswest.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA27021; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:37:22 -0500 Received: by astro.acs.uswest.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA04787; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:36:47 -0500 From: ptroot@uswest.com (Paul T. Root) Message-Id: <199606181636.LAA04787@astro.acs.uswest.com> Subject: Re: Talk problems btw. FreeBSD & Sun To: narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee (Narvi) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:36:47 -0500 (CDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Narvi" at Jun 18, 96 06:25:59 pm X-Organization: !nterprise Networking Services X-Phone: (612) 663-1979 X-Fax: (612) 663-8030 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 200 S. 5th St., Suite 1100 X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55402 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In a previous message, Narvi said: > > > HI! > > I am having problems with talk between a FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE machine > and a Sun4M running SunOS 5.5 (or so the uname reports). The problem is - > it is not possible to either talk from FreeBSD to the sun (using talk > user@sun.machine) or from the Sun to FreeBSD (using talk > user@freebsd.machine). Tcpdump shows packets comming from the Sun machine > to the FreeBSD machine and icmp messages "udp port talk unreachable" going > pack to the Sun. Sun uses the old talk (BSD4.2 based). FreeBSD being 4.4, uses new talk. They are incompatable. I believe the solution is to get ntalk (new talk) on the Sun. Paul. -- Paul T. Root - USWEST !NTERPRISE Networking Service ptroot@uswest.com If it all worked, we wouldn't have a job. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 09:55:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA09231 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:55:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haus.efn.org (haus.efn.org [198.68.17.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA09226 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:55:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from garcia.efn.org (david_jh@garcia.efn.org [198.68.17.5]) by haus.efn.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA25164; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:56:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:54:07 -0700 (PDT) From: David Hetrick To: "Christoph P. Kukulies" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Filename for download In-Reply-To: <199606180849.KAA09178@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ok....yeah. I'd like to install from DOS...so what's the filename? On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Christoph P. Kukulies wrote: > > I want to know which filename is the actual program of FreeBSD and the > > installation program ... this will save me some time. > > I have been searching through the FTP directories and can't > > find a single zipped file to download. If you could send me the file > > or tell me at least an ftp:// or http:// that would be great. > > Otherwise...I can't get your system/OS. > > Thanks for your help, > > Dave :) > > Depends whether you want to install from DOS or boot directly from > floppy into the FreeBSD installation menu and load the rest of the > OS over the Internet. > > If you have good net connectivity I'd recommend the latter. > For this get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE/floppies/ > boot.flp. > > You should also get the INSTALL.TXT and README docs. > If you're not of the faint at heart kind you may grab the > files from 2.2-190612-SNAP directory. > > > > > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 10:01:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA09676 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:01:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA09669 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:01:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA12257; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:01:22 -0700 (PDT) To: Haytham Algyndy cc: questions@freebsd.com Subject: Re: IDE CDROM configuration In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 Jun 1996 01:24:48 +1000." <199606181524.BAA17467@s4.elec.uq.edu.au> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:01:22 -0700 Message-ID: <12255.835117282@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Quad speed and is connected alone to the secondary IDE > port. The following lines are added to my kernel. If you have only one wd hard disk then it has to be the secondary (slave) device on the primary controller - it won't work otherwise! :( Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 10:01:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA09722 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:01:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from net1.netview.net ([199.3.74.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA09714 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:01:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from corona (corona.netview.net [206.223.98.2]) by net1.netview.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA00171 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:01:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:01:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960618120321.00919b14@netview.net> X-Sender: jrclark@netview.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: John Clark Subject: ifconfig alias Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I am trying to alias my NIC with several ip numbers. It would appear that only the first one works. If someone knows how to do this, please let me know. Thanks, John Clark [jrclark@netview.net] From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 10:09:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA10136 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:09:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x1.boston.juno.com (x1.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.21]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA10128 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fadorno@juno.com) by x1.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id NAA24533; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:07:46 EDT To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:07:41 PST Subject: IDE cd-rom Message-ID: <19960618.100742.9262.0.fadorno@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.00 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-5 From: fadorno@juno.com (Fred Adorno) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The kernel acknowledges that there is an ide cd-rom however one lines states the following: wcd0, unknown media type, unlocked What does it mean and how do I rectify it? From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 10:24:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA11300 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:24:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA11293 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:24:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA10414; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:24:38 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:24:38 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9606181724.AA10414@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: questions@freebsd.com Subject: Re: IDE CDROM configuration In-Reply-To: <12255.835117282@time.cdrom.com> References: <199606181524.BAA17467@s4.elec.uq.edu.au> <12255.835117282@time.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: >> Quad speed and is connected alone to the secondary IDE >> port. The following lines are added to my kernel. > If you have only one wd hard disk then it has to be the secondary > (slave) device on the primary controller - it won't work otherwise! :( This is not my experience. I have a couple of machines that have a twin IDE controller and a CD-ROM as the master on the second controller, and they appear to work just fine. (Of course, if the PC world had had the sense to go SCSI, this whole mess would never have happened.) -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 10:39:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA12447 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:39:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riverside.mr.net (root@Riverside.MR.Net [137.192.2.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA12442 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:39:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from galileo.mr.net by riverside.mr.net (8.7.5/SMI-4.1.R931202) id MAA15388; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:39:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from black@localhost) by galileo.mr.net (8.7.2/8.7.2) id MAA10869; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:39:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Ben Black Message-Id: <199606181739.MAA10869@galileo.mr.net> Subject: Re: Microsoft FrontPage Server Extensions for FreeBSD To: jeff@tad.cetlink.net (Jeffrey Wheat) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:39:15 -0500 (CDT) Cc: shovey@buffnet.net, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606181359.JAA23247@tad.cetlink.net> from "Jeffrey Wheat" at Jun 18, 96 09:59:55 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME7a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > In reply to Stephen Hovey's email > > Frontpage opens a great big hol in security. I wont touch it. > > Frontpage opens a big security hole if you do not follow the installation > notes to the letter. > Actually, it does that no matter what. Read those directions carefully, then rm the whole mess. Ben From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 10:44:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA12934 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:44:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netlink.co.uk (root@castle.netlink.co.uk [194.72.237.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA12922 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:44:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by netlink.co.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #6) id m0uW4t2-000I5NC; Tue, 18 Jun 96 18:48 BST Message-Id: From: trig@netlink.co.uk (Christiaan Keet) Subject: Max first parameter of a Select call? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:48:19 +0100 (BST) X-URL: http://www.plig.org/~keet X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How do you get the 'select' call in FreeBSD to be happy with something greater than 256 as a first parameter? Anything above this seems to give a "Select error 22 - invalid argument" Christiaan -- - Christiaan Keet N E T L I N K trig@netlink.co.uk - - (work) +44 (0)171 240 7867 (fax) +44 (0)171 240 5044 - From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 10:46:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA13042 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:46:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fang.cs.sunyit.edu (fang.cs.sunyit.edu [192.52.220.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA13037 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:46:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from chuck@localhost) by fang.cs.sunyit.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA13294; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:46:15 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:46:15 -0400 From: Charles Green Message-Id: <199606181746.NAA13294@fang.cs.sunyit.edu> In-Reply-To: Nate Williams "Re: Talk problems btw. FreeBSD & Sun" (Jun 18, 10:12) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: Nate Williams Subject: Re: Talk problems btw. FreeBSD & Sun Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Nate Williams stands accused of saying: } Date: Jun 18, 10:12 } Subject: Re: Talk problems btw. FreeBSD & Sun } > I am having problems with talk between a FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE machine } > and a Sun4M running SunOS 5.5 (or so the uname reports). The problem is - } > it is not possible to either talk from FreeBSD to the sun (using talk } > user@sun.machine) or from the Sun to FreeBSD (using talk } > user@freebsd.machine). } } That's because Sun uses a *very* old (6-7 years) version of talk that } doesn't work over machines that use different byte orders, sucn as Sun's } and PC's. The *ONLY* machines that Sun's will 'talk' to are other suns. } } You could install a newer talk on the Sun's if it's really important. } } } Nate }-- End of excerpt from Nate Williams Or use ytalk! -- Charles Green, PRC Inc. UN*X System Administration 22 Powell Ave. Apt. B UN*X Security & Whitesboro, NY 13492 Programming From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 10:55:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA13448 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:55:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA13443 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:55:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA15411; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:54:43 -0700 (PDT) To: Garrett Wollman cc: questions@freebsd.com Subject: Re: IDE CDROM configuration In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:24:38 EDT." <9606181724.AA10414@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:54:43 -0700 Message-ID: <15408.835120483@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > This is not my experience. I have a couple of machines that have a > twin IDE controller and a CD-ROM as the master on the second > controller, and they appear to work just fine. (Of course, if the PC > world had had the sense to go SCSI, this whole mess would never have > happened.) Great, another permutation. Well, on many many systems the technique I describe is the only way you'll get your IDE CDROM to work. Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 10:58:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA13569 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA13562 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:58:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jli (jli.portland.or.us [199.2.111.1]) by ref.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA01543 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:58:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cumulus by jli with uucp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0uW4z6-0001b9C; Tue, 18 Jun 96 10:54 PDT Message-Id: To: Garrett Wollman , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: solution to: amd (and CD-ROM's) References: <9606151626.AA24567@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> <13759.834822154@palmer.demon.co.uk> In-reply-to: Your message of Sat, 15 Jun 1996 12:26:46 EDT. <9606151626.AA24567@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <5466.835120462.1@cloud.rain.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:54:22 -0700 From: Bill Trost Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Well I took the time to add a few things to my kernel (most notably "options NFS"), and amd now works just fine and I have CD-ROM automounting working. "Someone" should put that in the FAQ or somewhere else relevant the amd apparently does not work in the 2.1 RELEASE without "options NFS" in the kernel configuration. (Does the NFS loadable kernel module not work, perhaps?) On the other hand, I never did figure out how to get it to work with the "-type:=direct" flag.... From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 11:08:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA14101 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA14093 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:08:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by ref.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA01580 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:01:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA08788; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 20:56:20 +0300 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 20:56:19 +0300 (EET DST) From: Narvi To: Nate Williams cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Talk problems btw. FreeBSD & Sun In-Reply-To: <199606181632.KAA02174@rocky.sri.MT.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Nate Williams wrote: > [ Talk problems Sun <-> FreeBSD ] > > > > That's because Sun uses a *very* old (6-7 years) version of talk that > > > doesn't work over machines that use different byte orders, sucn as Sun's > > > and PC's. The *ONLY* machines that Sun's will 'talk' to are other suns. > > > > Now that's awfull!!! Weren't the things meant to be consistent in the use > > of byte order? > > They were once it was figured out, but Sun never shipped the new > versions since it's *NOT* backwards compatible with the old version. :( > > > Perhaps there is a way of getting that /usr/old/talk? > > I'm not sure, but ytalk *might* be able to talk to the Suns. Someone > with more experience in that matter may be able to verify that. > Download ytalk and check the docs. > Thanx, it did help - but unfortunately it goes only half the way. Ytalk is able to connect to the Sun (I type talk on the FreeBSD machine -> respond with talk: ... apears on the screen of the user logged into the sun, but when she (or he - it changes nothing which user) responds, the talk session just hangs on her/his part. So I still need a talk daemon capable of receiving "old" talk requests. Any ideas whetever sources for the 4.2BSD compatible talk daemon might be available? Or any work on the ytalk daemon mentioned in the docs? With great thanx, Sander PS. Got to make a handbook entry out of this hassle... > > Nate > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 11:13:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA14503 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:13:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA14493 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:13:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by ref.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA01787 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:13:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA08911; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 21:11:41 +0300 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 21:11:40 +0300 (EET DST) From: Narvi To: questions@freebsd.org cc: John Clark Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > From: John Clark > Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:01:40 -0500 (EST) > Subject: ifconfig alias > > Hello, > > I am trying to alias my NIC with several ip numbers. It would appear that > only the first one works. If someone knows how to do this, please let me > know. The trick is to set the netmask to 255.255.255.255 for the other aliases on the same subnet. And most possibly add a static route to them route add .... - though I am not sure about that. Sander > > Thanks, > > > > John Clark > [jrclark@netview.net] From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 11:15:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA14645 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:15:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA14638 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:15:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jli (jli.portland.or.us [199.2.111.1]) by ref.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA01825 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:15:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cumulus by jli with uucp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0uW50U-0001bCC; Tue, 18 Jun 96 10:56 PDT Message-Id: To: Garrett Wollman , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: solution to: amd (and CD-ROM's) References: <9606151626.AA24567@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> <13759.834822154@palmer.demon.co.uk> In-reply-to: Your message of Sat, 15 Jun 1996 12:26:46 EDT. <9606151626.AA24567@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <5466.835120462.1@cloud.rain.com> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:54:22 -0700 From: Bill Trost Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Well I took the time to add a few things to my kernel (most notably "options NFS"), and amd now works just fine and I have CD-ROM automounting working. "Someone" should put that in the FAQ or somewhere else relevant the amd apparently does not work in the 2.1 RELEASE without "options NFS" in the kernel configuration. (Does the NFS loadable kernel module not work, perhaps?) On the other hand, I never did figure out how to get it to work with the "-type:=direct" flag.... From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 11:18:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA14854 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:18:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA14832; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-20.ime.net [206.231.149.29]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA10137; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:17:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31C6F2D8.1932@ime.net> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:18:00 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Eloy A. Paris" CC: questions@FreeBSD.org, hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: (correction) FreeBSD works with Cy486DLC processors? References: <2.2.16.19960618110424.1597f8b6@zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Eloy A. Paris wrote: > > > My apologies: my microprocessor IS NOT a 486DLC, it's a 486DX4. Some people > out there have pointed that out (thank you guys). > Awe, Set the board to 25MHz. Re-Enable your cache! Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 11:28:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA15401 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blanco.sadeya.cesca.es (blanco.sadeya.cesca.es [192.94.163.146]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA15390 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyan.infortecnica.es ([193.148.6.29]) by blanco.sadeya.cesca.es (8.6.11/8.7.0) with SMTP id UAA21762; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 20:27:58 +0200 Message-ID: <31C710DC.63E7@sadeya.cesca.es> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 20:26:04 +0000 From: Carlos Amengual Organization: SADEYA X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Llamas CC: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Server with 128 Mbytes RAM References: <31C6D9F1.416C@abaforum.es> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk David Llamas wrote: > > Hi!. I have one FreeBSD server with 128 Mbytes of RAM, and FreeBSD only >recognize 64 Mbytes. Hi David ! >From an earlier message (and from the FAQ): ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 8.6. I have 128 MB of RAM but it seems that the system use only the first 64 MB. What's going on ? Due to the manner in which FreeBSD gets the memory size from the BIOS, it can only detect 16 bits worth of Kbytes in size (65535 Kbytes = 64MB). If you have more than 64MB, FreeBSD will only see the first 64MB. To work around this problem, you need to use the kernel option specified below. There is a way to get complete memory information from the BIOS, but we don't have room in the bootblocks to do it. Someday when lack of room in the bootblocks is fixed, we'll use the extended BIOS functions to get the full memory information...but for now we're stuck with the kernel option. options "MAXMEM=" Where n is your memory in Kilobytes. For a 128 MB machine, you'd want to use 131072 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- See you -- ========================================================== Carlos Amengual - Sociedad Astronómica de España y América Avenida Diagonal, 377, 2 - 08008 Barcelona - Spain amengual@sadeya.cesca.es - http://www.sadeya.cesca.es/ ========================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 11:30:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA15511 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:30:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA15506 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:30:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from richardc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA03008; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:30:56 -0700 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:30:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Veggy Vinny To: Nate Williams cc: Narvi , Nate Williams , questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Talk problems btw. FreeBSD & Sun In-Reply-To: <199606181632.KAA02174@rocky.sri.MT.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Nate Williams wrote: > [ Talk problems Sun <-> FreeBSD ] > > > > That's because Sun uses a *very* old (6-7 years) version of talk that > > > doesn't work over machines that use different byte orders, sucn as Sun's > > > and PC's. The *ONLY* machines that Sun's will 'talk' to are other suns. > > > > Now that's awfull!!! Weren't the things meant to be consistent in the use > > of byte order? > > They were once it was figured out, but Sun never shipped the new > versions since it's *NOT* backwards compatible with the old version. :( > > > Perhaps there is a way of getting that /usr/old/talk? > > I'm not sure, but ytalk *might* be able to talk to the Suns. Someone > with more experience in that matter may be able to verify that. > Download ytalk and check the docs. ytalk does work only if you sit in ytalk and wait for them to respond or else they can't get back to you later... Vince GaiaNet System Administration From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 11:39:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA15989 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:39:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA15984 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:39:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id LAA02458 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:39:37 -0700 Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-1) with ESMTP id TAA00498; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 19:36:30 +0100 (BST) To: Paul Sondhu cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Microsoft FrontPage Server Extensions for FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:22:50 +1000." Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 19:36:29 +0100 Message-ID: <496.835122989@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Paul Sondhu wrote in message ID : > I was wondering if anyone out there is using the FrontPage Server > Extensions with the Microsoft FrontPage Web Editor/Manager. > We run the NCSA httpd web server on a FreeBSD machine and I am trying > to install the BSDi version of the FrontPage Server Extensions which > I downloaded off the Microsoft web site. The BSDi version is the closest > version it had that resembled anything near to FreeBSD. > Is BSDi compatible with FreeBSD? Or, more correctly, is FreeBSD compatable with BSDi? Yes, athough up until a month or two ago we were only compatable with BSDi's BSD/OS 1.x. More recent ``editions'' of -current and -stable both have the code change in the kernel which allows you to run BSDi's BSD/OS 2.x executables too. So, my answer is: Yes, if you upgrade to -stable from -release. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 11:52:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA17336 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:52:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freenet.hamilton.on.ca (main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA17329 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:52:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.66]) by freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA07877; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:51:31 -0400 Received: (ac199@localhost) by james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA08264; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:53:03 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:53:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek To: David Hetrick cc: "Christoph P. Kukulies" , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Filename for download In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, David Hetrick wrote: > Ok....yeah. I'd like to install from DOS...so what's the filename? Look at the two docs called `INSTALL' and `README' in the 2.2-960612-SNAP directory at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD, as instructed in the below quote. You'll find it easiest to download all the little files if you use ftp.freebsd.org's auto-tar-and-zipping facility. For example, to download the bin distribution, you'd follow this url ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/2.2-960612-SNAP/bin.tar.gz . Rename it to bin.tgz and put it in the appropriate directory (c:\freebsd\bin, I think--check INSTALL to be sure). You also need rawrite.exe, boot.flp, root.flp, and possibly fips.exe. You'll find all of those somewhere off of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD. -- > > > On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Christoph P. Kukulies wrote: > > > > I want to know which filename is the actual program of FreeBSD and the > > > installation program ... this will save me some time. > > > I have been searching through the FTP directories and can't > > > find a single zipped file to download. If you could send me the file > > > or tell me at least an ftp:// or http:// that would be great. > > > Otherwise...I can't get your system/OS. > > > Thanks for your help, > > > Dave :) > > > > Depends whether you want to install from DOS or boot directly from > > floppy into the FreeBSD installation menu and load the rest of the > > OS over the Internet. > > > > If you have good net connectivity I'd recommend the latter. > > For this get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE/floppies/ > > boot.flp. > > > > You should also get the INSTALL.TXT and README docs. > > If you're not of the faint at heart kind you may grab the > > files from 2.2-190612-SNAP directory. > > > > > > > > > > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de > > > -- Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! tIM...HOEk From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 11:56:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA17573 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freenet.hamilton.on.ca (main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA17565 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:56:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.66]) by freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA08025; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:55:45 -0400 Received: (ac199@localhost) by james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA09166; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:57:17 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:57:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek To: David Hetrick , "Christoph P. Kukulies" , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Filename for download In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Tim Vanderhoek wrote: One other note; If you're installing from DOS you should be forewarned that the msdosfs code is buggy. The msdosfs code is especially prone to error if you used fips to split your dos partition. Before you do an install from a DOS partition, back-it-up. -- > On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, David Hetrick wrote: > > > Ok....yeah. I'd like to install from DOS...so what's the filename? > > Look at the two docs called `INSTALL' and `README' in the 2.2-960612-SNAP > directory at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD, as instructed in the > below quote. > > You'll find it easiest to download all the little files if you use > ftp.freebsd.org's auto-tar-and-zipping facility. For example, to > download the bin distribution, you'd follow this url > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/2.2-960612-SNAP/bin.tar.gz > > . Rename it to bin.tgz and put it in the appropriate directory > (c:\freebsd\bin, I think--check INSTALL to be sure). > > You also need rawrite.exe, boot.flp, root.flp, and possibly fips.exe. > You'll find all of those somewhere off of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD. > > -- > > > > > > On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Christoph P. Kukulies wrote: > > > > > > I want to know which filename is the actual program of FreeBSD and the > > > > installation program ... this will save me some time. > > > > I have been searching through the FTP directories and can't > > > > find a single zipped file to download. If you could send me the file > > > > or tell me at least an ftp:// or http:// that would be great. > > > > Otherwise...I can't get your system/OS. > > > > Thanks for your help, > > > > Dave :) > > > > > > Depends whether you want to install from DOS or boot directly from > > > floppy into the FreeBSD installation menu and load the rest of the > > > OS over the Internet. > > > > > > If you have good net connectivity I'd recommend the latter. > > > For this get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE/floppies/ > > > boot.flp. > > > > > > You should also get the INSTALL.TXT and README docs. > > > If you're not of the faint at heart kind you may grab the > > > files from 2.2-190612-SNAP directory. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de > > > > > > > -- > Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! > tIM...HOEk > > -- Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! tIM...HOEk From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 12:15:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA18614 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:15:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.43.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA18596 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:15:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from richardc@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA06759; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:14:17 -0700 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:14:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Veggy Vinny To: Narvi cc: Nate Williams , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Talk problems btw. FreeBSD & Sun In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Narvi wrote: > > > On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Nate Williams wrote: > > > [ Talk problems Sun <-> FreeBSD ] > > > > > > That's because Sun uses a *very* old (6-7 years) version of talk that > > > > doesn't work over machines that use different byte orders, sucn as Sun's > > > > and PC's. The *ONLY* machines that Sun's will 'talk' to are other suns. > > > > > > Now that's awfull!!! Weren't the things meant to be consistent in the use > > > of byte order? > > > > They were once it was figured out, but Sun never shipped the new > > versions since it's *NOT* backwards compatible with the old version. :( > > > > > Perhaps there is a way of getting that /usr/old/talk? > > > > I'm not sure, but ytalk *might* be able to talk to the Suns. Someone > > with more experience in that matter may be able to verify that. > > Download ytalk and check the docs. > > > > Thanx, it did help - but unfortunately it goes only half the way. Ytalk > is able to connect to the Sun (I type talk on the FreeBSD machine -> > respond with talk: ... apears on the screen of the user logged into the > sun, but when she (or he - it changes nothing which user) responds, the > talk session just hangs on her/his part. > > So I still need a talk daemon capable of receiving "old" talk requests. > Any ideas whetever sources for the 4.2BSD compatible talk daemon might be > available? Or any work on the ytalk daemon mentioned in the docs? Before FreeBSD was out (Thanks to Jordan for telling me about it!), I used to run Linux and there was a guy at GNU i met through the gnu finger author that was developing a gnu talkd and I ran it that handled both port 517 and 518 talk requests and was able to output out of your soundcard too and it works on all unix platforms.... too bad I lost it and his address when FreeBSD 1.0 Gamma came out.... Maybe someone else knows... Vince System Administration/GaiaNet Corporation From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 12:24:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA20105 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA20094 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-20.ime.net [206.231.149.29]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA14333; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:24:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31C7027F.75A9@ime.net> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:24:47 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Clark CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ifconfig alias References: <2.2.32.19960618120321.00919b14@netview.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk John Clark wrote: > > Hello, > > I am trying to alias my NIC with several ip numbers. It would appear that > only the first one works. If someone knows how to do this, please let me know. > Use a netmask of 0xffffffff (Or 255.255.255.255) for the aliases. Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 12:25:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA20303 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:25:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell.aros.net (root@shell.aros.net [205.164.111.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA20292 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:25:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from angio@localhost) by shell.aros.net (8.7.5/Unknown) id NAA19164; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:18:10 -0600 (MDT) From: Dave Andersen Message-Id: <199606181918.NAA19164@shell.aros.net> Subject: Re: your mail To: narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee (Narvi) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:18:10 -0600 (MDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, jrclark@netview.net In-Reply-To: from Narvi at "Jun 18, 96 09:11:40 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL13 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ifconfig alias netmask 255.255.255.255 route add -host 127.0.0.1 Lo and behold, Narvi once said: > > > From: John Clark > > Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:01:40 -0500 (EST) > > Subject: ifconfig alias > > > > Hello, > > > > I am trying to alias my NIC with several ip numbers. It would appear that > > only the first one works. If someone knows how to do this, please let me > > know. > > The trick is to set the netmask to 255.255.255.255 for the other aliases > on the same subnet. And most possibly add a static route to them > > route add .... - though I am not sure about that. -- angio@aros.net Complete virtual hosting and business-oriented system administration Internet services. (WWW, FTP, email) http://www.aros.net/ http://www.aros.net/about/virtual "There are only two industries that refer to their customers as 'users'." From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 12:27:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA20571 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Rigel.orionsys.com (root@rigel.orionsys.com [205.148.224.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA20558 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:27:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dbabler@localhost) by Rigel.orionsys.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id MAA07090; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:25:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Babler To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Named learning disabilities? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Some time ago, I asked a question about "lame delegation" messages from named and received several answers that said, basically, they were beneign. I've begun to notice something else though... that contrary to what named is saying, it doesn't seem to be learning names: ---- Jun 18 11:04:18 Rigel named[67]: Lame server on '1.67.190.199.in-addr.arpa' (in '67.190.199.IN-ADDR.ARPA'?): [199.190.65.3].53 'NS.DX.NET': learnt (A=192.5.5.241,NS=128.8.10.90) Jun 18 11:18:53 Rigel named[67]: Lame server on '1.67.190.199.in-addr.arpa' (in '67.190.199.IN-ADDR.ARPA'?): [199.190.65.3].53 'NS.DX.NET': learnt (A=192.5.5.241,NS=128.8.10.90) Jun 18 11:23:08 Rigel named[67]: Lame server on '42.255.142.206.in-addr.arpa' (in '255.142.206.IN-ADDR.ARPA'?): [206.142.240.114].53 'ns1.cwix.net': learnt (A=205.136.1.33,NS=205.136.1.33) Jun 18 11:55:46 Rigel named[67]: Lame server on '1.67.190.199.in-addr.arpa' (in '67.190.199.IN-ADDR.ARPA'?): [199.190.65.3].53 'NS.DX.NET': learnt (A=192.5.5.241,NS=128.8.10.90) Jun 18 11:58:49 Rigel named[67]: Lame server on '42.255.142.206.in-addr.arpa' (in '255.142.206.IN-ADDR.ARPA'?): [206.142.240.114].53 'ns1.cwix.net': learnt (A=205.136.1.33,NS=205.136.1.33) ---- It seems to be saying that it is recording things, but runs into the same error/warning the very next time the path is looked up. Something misconfigured here? Where can I look? (my nameserver is provided by my ISP, which is, BTW, NS.DX.NET) -Dave From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 12:32:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA21054 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:32:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emout15.mail.aol.com (emout15.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA21048 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:32:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Amooooo@aol.com Received: by emout15.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA12624 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:32:13 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:32:13 -0400 Message-ID: <960618153211_332064105@emout15.mail.aol.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: DNS Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi just had a quick question. Does any one if DNS software comes with FreeBSD thanks Adam From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 12:50:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA22068 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:50:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22062 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:50:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA07612; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 19:50:49 GMT Message-Id: <199606181950.TAA07612@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA028377452; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:50:52 -0600 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:50:52 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: Amooooo@aol.com Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <960618153211_332064105@emout15.mail.aol.com> (Amooooo@aol.com) Subject: Re: DNS Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Amooooo" == Amooooo writes: Amooooo> Hi just had a quick question. Does any one if DNS Amooooo> software comes with FreeBSD /usr/sbin/named -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 13:17:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA23385 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:17:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23380 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (root@buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by ref.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA02812 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:17:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net (mmdf@buffnet1.buffnet.net [205.246.19.10]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA31569 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:16:29 GMT Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net by buffnet1.buffnet.net id aa14614; 18 Jun 96 16:17 EDT Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:17:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve To: Charles Henrich cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A useful mirror, anywhere?! In-Reply-To: <199606181451.KAA02719@crh.cl.msu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk If you are installing 2.1r remotely and if you have more than 8mb in the machine, pull all but 8 out until after you are done installing. Ive found this to work. On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Charles Henrich wrote: > Does anyone, anywhere, have a mirror that actually works?! The one out of > ports just spins, the one I had previously bloats and sucks up 200MB ram and > dies. Do I really need to write a C version of this beasty? > > -Crh > > Charles Henrich Michigan State University henrich@msu.edu > > http://pilot.msu.edu/~henrich > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 13:21:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA23632 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:21:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crh.cl.msu.edu (crh.cl.msu.edu [35.8.1.24]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA23626 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:20:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from henrich@localhost) by crh.cl.msu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA04877; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:20:49 -0400 From: Charles Henrich Message-Id: <199606182020.QAA04877@crh.cl.msu.edu> Subject: Re: A useful mirror, anywhere?! To: shovey@buffnet.net (Steve) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:20:49 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Steve" at Jun 18, 96 04:17:26 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > If you are installing 2.1r remotely and if you have more than 8mb in the > machine, pull all but 8 out until after you are done installing. Ive > found this to work. No, I meant mirror software, not a mirror repository, sorry about being unclear. -Crh Charles Henrich Michigan State University henrich@msu.edu http://pilot.msu.edu/~henrich From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 13:30:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA24207 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:30:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell.aros.net (root@shell.aros.net [205.164.111.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA24189 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:30:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from angio@localhost) by shell.aros.net (8.7.5/Unknown) id OAA21402; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:30:00 -0600 (MDT) From: Dave Andersen Message-Id: <199606182030.OAA21402@shell.aros.net> Subject: Re: DNS To: Amooooo@aol.com Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:30:00 -0600 (MDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <960618153211_332064105@emout15.mail.aol.com> from "Amooooo@aol.com" at "Jun 18, 96 03:32:13 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL13 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk 'man named' -Dave Andersen Lo and behold, Amooooo@aol.com once said: > Hi just had a quick question. Does any one if DNS software comes with > FreeBSD > > > > thanks > Adam > -- angio@aros.net Complete virtual hosting and business-oriented system administration Internet services. (WWW, FTP, email) http://www.aros.net/ http://www.aros.net/about/virtual "There are only two industries that refer to their customers as 'users'." From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 13:32:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA24383 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:32:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA24369 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:32:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (root@buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by ref.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA02910 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:32:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net (mmdf@buffnet1.buffnet.net [205.246.19.10]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA31842 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:31:14 GMT Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net by buffnet1.buffnet.net id aa16122; 18 Jun 96 16:32 EDT Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:32:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve To: Amooooo@aol.com cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS In-Reply-To: <960618153211_332064105@emout15.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Of course - BIND On Tue, 18 Jun 1996 Amooooo@aol.com wrote: > Hi just had a quick question. Does any one if DNS software comes with > FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 13:53:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA25789 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:53:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from janus.certicom.ca (janus.certicom.ca [204.225.51.194]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA25765 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:53:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from galois.certicom.ca (galois.certicom.ca [204.225.50.1]) by janus with ESMTP (DuhMail/2.0) id QAA23577; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:49:18 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by galois.certicom.ca (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA27445; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:58:53 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:58:53 -0400 Message-Id: <199606182058.QAA27445@galois.certicom.ca> To: questions@freebsd.org X-URL: mailto:questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2-4-2 X-Personal_name: Richard Chan From: rchan@certicom.ca Subject: Problems setting up majordomo for freeBSD Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am having problems setting up majordomo 1.93 under freeBSD. Can anyone help? I thought I followed the installation instructions, but apparently I must be doing something wrong. Perhaps I do not understand the make process as well as I should (I do not come from a programming background). I ftp'd majordomo-1.93.tar.Z and uncompressed it. The file extracted into /certicom/majordomo-1.93 I edited the Makefile to change $W_BIN=/certicom/majordomo created /certicom/majordomo with 775 permissions created majordom user and majordom group with home dir /home/majordom ran make from /certicom/majordomo-1.93 and got: wrapper.c: In function ----disregard last line wrapper.c: In function `main': warpper.c: 65: warning: comparison between pointer and integer wrapper.c: 99: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast and another line that starts with cc -DBIN=.... blah blah blah. Any help on this is appreciated. Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 13:57:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA26223 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:57:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pancake.remcomp.fr (pancake.remcomp.fr [194.51.30.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA26187; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:57:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aida (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aida (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA00481; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 22:52:16 +0200 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 22:52:16 +0200 (MET DST) From: didier@aida.org To: "Brant M. Katkansky" cc: "Eloy A. Paris" , questions@FreeBSD.org, hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD works with Cy486DLC processors? In-Reply-To: <199606180348.UAA01232@everest.dtr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 17 Jun 1996, Brant M. Katkansky wrote: > > I installed FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE a couple of weeks ago and since then I > > have been having programs exiting with signals 10 and 11, making my system > > too unstable to work as a dedicated e-mail server and as a PPP to Ethernet > > gateway. > > [snip] > > I had one given to me not too long ago. Mine is plagued with various > sig 10 and 11's, same as yours. > > Here's the interesting part - disabling the internal and external cache > makes the problem worse. > > I'm going to replace it with something better. Sometimes free is not > a very good price at all. :) > try to replace the 80387 numeric coprocessor by Cyrix one -- Didier Derny | Private FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE Site Email: didier@aida.org | Microsoft Free Computer. Homepage: http://www.codix.fr/~dderny | AMD 5x86-160 on a ASUS PVI-486SP3 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 14:00:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA26530 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:00:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haven.uchicago.edu (root@haven.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA26524 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:00:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from meno.uchicago.edu (meno.uchicago.edu [128.135.21.34]) by haven.uchicago.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA12846 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:00:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from meno.uchicago.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by meno.uchicago.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA18974 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:02:57 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199606182102.QAA18974@meno.uchicago.edu> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: lpd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <18968.835131776.1@meno.uchicago.edu> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:02:56 -0500 From: steve farrell Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk i have a (current) 2.1-stable system. printing works fine locally, but when i attempt to print from a solaris 2.5 (sparc) system, the lpd just dumps core repeatedly until i lprm the print request or kill lpd locally. the only message logged in lpd-errs is Jun 14 00:52:43 euthyphro lpd[894]: my.sparc.computer requests recvjob printername over and over again. any ideas? --tia steve farrell From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 14:16:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA27457 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:16:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inter8.interactive8.com (inter8.interactive8.com [206.98.216.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA27450 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:16:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by inter8.interactive8.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) id RAA04182; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:16:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:16:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199606182116.RAA04182@inter8.interactive8.com> From: townsend@INTER8.interactive8.com To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problems w/ ahc + Micropolis 1991 9 gig X-Sender: inter8.interactive8.com Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is a followup to my own question for the benefit of any Micropolis owners out there. Apologies to the list for noise. >Hi - > >I'm having some problems getting a Micropolis 1991 drive >working w/ the ahc driver w/ an adaptec 2840 vlb >controller. I can (apparently) label the drive but I >get numerous medium errors followed by a bus timeout when >I try to newfs the drive. I suspect that I have bogus disktab >information. This problem was solved by: 1. low level formatting the drive (I had done this originally, to no avail, not sure what't happening there) 2. running the adaptec controller's "Verify Disk Media" to the end (also done at the original install, but I suspect my numerous flailings w/ disklabel corrupted something) 3. Disconnecting the two internal IDE drives, leaving only the SCSI drive in question, booting w. an install disk, proceeding as w/ a new install, but setting the disk geometry to: 1 cylinder 1 head 1 sector This got the install process through the disklabel and newfs steps w/ no problem, and I then aborted the installation, reconnected the IDE drives, and mounted the new partition at /var/spool/news, and my news server was back... I found this *terribly* frustrating and the documentation abominable -- (btw, where the hell is format(8) anyway and why do I have a man page for it?) -- I would like very much to assist w/ installation documentation to help others avoid the trouble I had. I would also greatly appreciate any insight anybody may have as to why the 1/1/1 bogus geometry worked. I suspect it has to do w/ the drive's variable geometry (as on most new large SCSI's...) and FreeBSD trying to impose its somewhat outdated fixed-geometry on a drive that can take care of itself...but that's mere speculation on my part. Thanks, Chris townsend@interactive8.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 14:23:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA27877 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:23:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twwells.com (twwells.com [199.79.159.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA27848 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by twwells.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uW8C6-0001ISC; Tue, 18 Jun 96 17:20 EDT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Subject: -mm and 2.1 Date: 18 Jun 1996 17:20:10 -0400 Lines: 28 Message-ID: <4q76ia$q9f@twwells.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.twwells.com Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk OK, so now I have a working postscript setup. I do psroff -t file for a file that has a table in it and it comes out nicely. However, I try psroff -t -mm and I'm unpleasantly surprised: /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:143: warning: numeric expression expected (got `s') /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:144: warning: numeric expression expected (got `s') /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:149: warning: numeric expression expected (got `l') /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:152: warning: numeric expression expected (got `l') /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:155: warning: numeric expression expected (got `o') /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:162: warning: numeric expression expected (got `u') /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:165: warning: numeric expression expected (got `e') /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:172: warning: numeric expression expected (got `h') /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:176: warning: numeric expression expected (got `s') /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:180: warning: numeric expression expected (got `s') /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:184: warning: numeric expression expected (got `s') /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:188: warning: can't break line /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:188: warning: can't break line /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:188: warning: can't break line /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:188: warning: can't break line /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:198: warning: numeric expression expected (got `p') /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:217: warning: numeric expression expected (got `p') /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:220: warning: numeric expression expected (got `c') /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:226: warning: numeric expression expected (got `c') /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:232: warning: numeric expression expected (got `r') /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:236: warning: numeric expression expected (got `g') /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:246: error: end of file while defining macro `in' Any easy fix? From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 14:33:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA28641 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:33:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA28592; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:32:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id XAA25069; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 23:32:10 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id XAA27069; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 23:32:10 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id XAA09643; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 23:23:31 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199606182123.XAA09643@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Plan 1.5 statically linked for -stable ? To: af@biomath.jussieu.fr Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 23:23:31 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199606181154.MAA03573@garfield.biomath.jussieu.fr> from "af@biomath.jussieu.fr" at "Jun 18, 96 12:54:07 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As af@biomath.jussieu.fr wrote: > Has anyone compiled a plan 1.5 for -release or -stable and would be > willing to share it ? Only -current, but it used to dump core rather often. (In particular, netplan.) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 14:54:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA00809 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from distortion.eng.umd.edu (distortion.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA00789 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:54:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from skipper.eng.umd.edu (skipper.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.208]) by distortion.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA08299; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:54:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by skipper.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA02222; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:54:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:54:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@skipper.eng.umd.edu To: "T. William Wells" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: -mm and 2.1 In-Reply-To: <4q76ia$q9f@twwells.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 18 Jun 1996, T. William Wells wrote: > OK, so now I have a working postscript setup. I do psroff -t file > for a file that has a table in it and it comes out nicely. > However, I try psroff -t -mm and I'm unpleasantly surprised: > > /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:143: warning: numeric expression expected (got `s') > /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:144: warning: numeric expression expected (got `s') > /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:149: warning: numeric expression expected (got `l') > /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:152: warning: numeric expression expected (got `l') > /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:155: warning: numeric expression expected (got `o') > /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:162: warning: numeric expression expected (got `u') > /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:165: warning: numeric expression expected (got `e') > /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:172: warning: numeric expression expected (got `h') > /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:176: warning: numeric expression expected (got `s') > /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:180: warning: numeric expression expected (got `s') > /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:184: warning: numeric expression expected (got `s') > /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:188: warning: can't break line > /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:188: warning: can't break line > /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:188: warning: can't break line > /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:188: warning: can't break line > /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:198: warning: numeric expression expected (got `p') > /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:217: warning: numeric expression expected (got `p') > /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:220: warning: numeric expression expected (got `c') > /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:226: warning: numeric expression expected (got `c') > /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:232: warning: numeric expression expected (got `r') > /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:236: warning: numeric expression expected (got `g') > /usr/share/tmac/tmac.m:246: error: end of file while defining macro `in' I'm kinda curious. Why did you go to the trouble of building psroff, when groff came with the system? The stuff in /usr/share/tmac/* is made for groff, not psroff, and I'm not too surprised it had some trouble. Groff has several very nice extensions, like longer variable names, that would probably make macros made for groff incompatible with psroff. > > Any easy fix? > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 15:00:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA01443 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:00:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA01427 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twwells.com (twwells.com [199.79.159.1]) by ref.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA03812 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:00:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by twwells.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uW8lC-00011uC; Tue, 18 Jun 96 17:56 EDT Message-Id: From: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Subject: Re: -mm and 2.1 To: chuckr@Glue.umd.edu (Chuck Robey) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:56:29 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Chuck Robey" at Jun 18, 96 05:54:27 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm kinda curious. Why did you go to the trouble of building psroff, > when groff came with the system? /usr/bin/psroff, the front end for psroff. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 15:14:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA02803 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:14:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from distortion.eng.umd.edu (distortion.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA02792 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from skipper.eng.umd.edu (skipper.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.208]) by distortion.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA08582; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:14:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by skipper.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA02233; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:14:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:14:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@skipper.eng.umd.edu To: "T. William Wells" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: -mm and 2.1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, T. William Wells wrote: > > I'm kinda curious. Why did you go to the trouble of building psroff, > > when groff came with the system? > > /usr/bin/psroff, the front end for psroff. Oh, I never knew it was there. Just a one liner interface to groff. I knew there was a package called psroff, I thought you were referring to that. Groff defaults to generating postscript to begin with, so using psroff seems kinda unneeded. I use groff all the time, I know that the mm macros work fine. You cut off your question, so I can't see it to answer it now. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 15:21:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA03765 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA03757 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:21:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twwells.com (twwells.com [199.79.159.1]) by ref.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA03974 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:21:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by twwells.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uW96M-00011uC; Tue, 18 Jun 96 18:18 EDT Message-Id: From: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Subject: Re: -mm and 2.1 To: chuckr@Glue.umd.edu (Chuck Robey) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:18:22 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Chuck Robey" at Jun 18, 96 06:14:25 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > psroff seems kinda unneeded. I use groff all the time, I know that the > mm macros work fine. > > You cut off your question, so I can't see it to answer it now. OK, well I do psroff -t -mm file and I get those errors. What command do you use? From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 15:30:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA04662 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:30:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jolt.eng.umd.edu (jolt.eng.umd.edu [129.2.102.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA04656 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from skipper.eng.umd.edu (skipper.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.208]) by jolt.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA09163; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:30:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by skipper.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA02311; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:30:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:30:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@skipper.eng.umd.edu To: "T. William Wells" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: -mm and 2.1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, T. William Wells wrote: > > I'm kinda curious. Why did you go to the trouble of building psroff, > > when groff came with the system? > > /usr/bin/psroff, the front end for psroff. > I got the copy of my own message back, and it had your question on it. I haven't ever tried psroff .... if it's not too private stuff, can I see your troff source file, what you were trying to format? If it were me, I would have given the command 'groff -t -mm sourcefile'. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 15:33:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA04856 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:33:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from distortion.eng.umd.edu (distortion.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA04851 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:33:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from skipper.eng.umd.edu (skipper.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.208]) by distortion.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA08789; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:33:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by skipper.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA02314; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:33:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:33:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@skipper.eng.umd.edu To: "T. William Wells" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: -mm and 2.1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, T. William Wells wrote: > > psroff seems kinda unneeded. I use groff all the time, I know that the > > mm macros work fine. > > > > You cut off your question, so I can't see it to answer it now. > > OK, well I do psroff -t -mm file and I get those errors. What > command do you use? > To format a file using groff, with postscript as the intended output format, I use 'groff sourcefile > sourcefile.ps'. If I have included tbl commands inthe sourcefile, I include the -t flag, and if it needs the mm macros, I use the -mm flag. The -Tps is not needed, because postscript is the default output format for groff. If I'm trying to generate ascii, I use the -Tascii flag. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 15:57:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA06657 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:57:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA06652 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:57:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Root.COM (implode.Root.COM [198.145.90.17]) by ref.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA04212 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:57:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Root.COM (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA11960; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606182249.PAA11960@Root.COM> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.Root.COM: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Charles Henrich cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A useful mirror, anywhere?! In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:51:17 EDT." <199606181451.KAA02719@crh.cl.msu.edu> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@Root.COM Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:49:28 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Does anyone, anywhere, have a mirror that actually works?! The one out of >ports just spins, the one I had previously bloats and sucks up 200MB ram and >dies. Do I really need to write a C version of this beasty? Now you know why wcarchive has to have .5GB of RAM. :-) -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 15:58:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA06685 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:58:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA06629 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id RAA02135; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:58:37 GMT Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:58:37 GMT Message-Id: <199606181758.RAA02135@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: valtech@caribnet.net CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Sean Batson on Mon, 17 Jun 1996 15:23:23 -0400 (AST)) Subject: Re: Offical Release of 2.2 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > When is the offical release of FreeBSD 2.2? > The reason why I'm asking, I have been with > out my cd-rom for quite sometime.. If I remember rightly, 2.2 isn't expected to be ready until autumn/winter, but there is a 2.1.5 due out this summer, which will mainly be bug-fixes and minor improvements over 2.1.0, rather than all the funky new features which are going into 2.2. One of the distinctive features of FreeBSD is that it's released when the developers think it's more-or-less ready, rather than on an arbitrary date dreamt up by the marketing department. This is an good thing in my book, although it can be a bit frustrating if you're impatient to get your hands on all the latest goodies. 8-) -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 16:01:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA06976 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA06855 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:00:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id RAA02124; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:45:14 GMT Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:45:14 GMT Message-Id: <199606181745.RAA02124@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: reyes01@ibm.net CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199606181049.KAA36277@pop01.ny.us.ibm.net> (message from Francisco Reyes on Tue, 18 Jun 96 06:48:05 -0400) Subject: Re: How to install Kernell sources? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I was reading the handbook section in building a new kernel. > It mentions that if one does not have the sources to look at the > section that tells how to install packages. Is this refering to > pkg_manage or to the install one uses to install FreeBSD? > I tried pkg_manage and that does not seem to be it. If it > is the installation one does to install FreeBSD how does one > install the sources for the kernel only without affecting the > current cunfiguration? The simplest way to do this is to grab the ssys.aa - ssys.an files and the install.sh script from the src directory on ftp.freebsd.org and do # ./install.sh ssys (If you've got the CDROM, you can do this in the /cdrom/dists/src directory without having to copy them anywhere first). -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 16:03:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA07053 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA07039; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:03:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA11374; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:59:17 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606182259.PAA11374@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD works with Cy486DLC processors? To: Eloy.Paris@ven.ra.rockwell.com (Eloy A. Paris) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:59:16 -0700 (MST) Cc: michaelv@HeadCandy.com, hardware@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19960618093049.301ff69c@zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com> from "Eloy A. Paris" at Jun 18, 96 09:13:02 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Well, I do not have an external cache. I was talking about the internal > cache. That one is disabled. But anyway, what does the internal cache have > to do with the mother board design? That is internal to the processor... The > external cache is also disabled because I don't have one. > > I have not tried anything besides FreeBSD on this machine. When you do bus mastering DMA from a controller card (ethernet, video capture, or disk), the controller directly writes to system memory rather than using the processor to copy data from memory on the card to your system memory. This offloads I/O processing to the card, freeing the CPU to run code, do calculations, etc.. This is why DMA controllers are better than programmed I/O controllers, and is one of the fundamental reasons UNIX people are so pro SCSI and so anti-IDE. Yes, there are some IDE controller that do DMA, but they are nearly impossible to detect without crashing those that don't do DMA, and so you can't build generic code for them without serious manufacturer documentation, like ROM recognition algorithms. When you have a cache (internal or external), then the processor fetches data from the cache instead of hitting the memory bus (internal) or from the cache instead of potentially hitting I/O wait states associated with real memory (external). Because the processor will prefer these caches, when you DMA, you have to tell the cache controller circuitry (for an external cache) that the cache is out of date, or the processor (for an internal cache) that the cache is out of date. Really, what you are telling it is "this region of memory has changed", and it decides what to do from there. The best cache hardware will say "I'd better reload that data from memory". This is called "cache update". Working cache hardware that isn't quite the best will say "I'd better throw the data away, and if it's referenced again (which it will be, when the I/O completion interrupt triggers running the code that asked for the read in the first place), I'll reload it". This is called "cache invalidation". There are motherboards, which can't be simply identified by manufacturer, since manufacturers revise them without telling anyone, that do not have working cache circuitry. This can be an inherent design flaw (like the original Saturn I, Neptune, and Mercury PCI chipsets from Intel, sold in early Gateway and Dell 60/66 MHz P5 systems) in the chipset, or it can be a motherboard design flaw (it's just not hooked up), or it can be a "feature": VESA Local Bus [VLB] systems won't signal a DMA to the cache logic unless the VESA controller is in a "master" slot. Which slot, if any, is a "master" is undocumented; this is one of the fundamental reasons UNIX people are so violently anti-VESA/VLB. A motherboard flaw can affect the external cache only, the internal cache only, or both. If both are affected, you are using a VESA/VLB card, a PCI card with a flawed chipset, or the motherboard is simply broken. "The Cyrix problem" is actually a Cyrix/TI problem. Cyrix and TI built a chip with an internal cache. Cyrix has since signed a deal with IBM to use their "blue lightening" chip masks, and chips build using the IBM design (Cyrix is still selling chips built using the old design) don't have the problem. Of course, it's hard to tell which chips have the problem, other than "it is a Cyrix/TI chip" or "it isn't a Cyrix/TI chip". "The Cyrix problem" has two stories: the first is that the chip was built to be plugged into 386 slots, and 386's don't have a cache change notification pin. So there is absolutely no way to tell the chip that the memory it has cached is no good. Even if there was, the motherboard doesn't expect to have the ability to tell the processor that the cache is invalid, so there is no circuitry, even if there was a pin. The second story is that the chips don't honor the "non-cacheable" bit, so even if you write Cyrix-knowledgable routines, you are still screwed. What can BSD do? 1) The Cyrix chips are detectable, and you can turn the internal cache off: "The Undocumented PC", Frank Van Gilluwe, Addison Wesley publishing, ISBN 0-201-62277-7 If you do this, you will lose performance, but anything that works is better than anything that doesn't. 2) If the chip supports it, you can mark the pages non-cacheable, or, alternately, manually invalidate them on DMA completion using BINVD. This assumes you can detect the cache failure, so you know to turn the code on (you don't want it on all the time, since it reduces performance). 3) Also assuming DMA failure is somehow detectable, you can have two versions of every driver so you can use PIO instead of DMA. This is a *huge* performance hit in many cases. 4) You can replace the faulty hardware. Generally, soloutions 1-3 have not been implemented. Linux implements soloution 1. Solutions 2 and 3 require detecting DMA hardware, then forcing a situation where the DMA failure is detectable -- not an easy thing in all cases, or with all type of hardware. For small caches, it means adding a "frob" to the driver in case it's the only DMA device in the machine, and using the frob to avoid LRU'ing the test data out of the smallest possible L1 and L2 caches that you might want to test. Most people will recommend solution 4, rather than track down the hardware errors. The problem with implementing any of 1-3 is that it would take knowledgable people intentionally buying broken hardware for it to be possible to test -- and that just isn't going to happen for most of us, who can barely afford good hardware, let alone blow money on broken hardware for testing. Hope this clears things up. Regards, Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 16:07:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA07388 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:07:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA07253 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:05:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id TAA02198; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 19:20:32 GMT Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 19:20:32 GMT Message-Id: <199606181920.TAA02198@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: jrclark@netview.net CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <2.2.32.19960617165857.0096c5a0@netview.net> (message from John Clark on Mon, 17 Jun 1996 16:57:24 -0500) Subject: Re: warning: /usr/lib/libutil.so.2.0: ... Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Now when I login, I get the following message: > > ld.so: warning: /usr/lib/libutil.so.2.0: minor version 0 older than expected > 1, using it anyway My guess is that you didn't reboot after the compilation, so the old version of libutil.so is still in the shared library cache. As 'login' was built using the new set of libraries, it expects to find the new version and complains when it gets handed the old one from the cache. Either reboot or do something like ldconfig /usr/lib /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/local/lib BTW One thing I didn't mention last time was that you'll need to compile a new kernel. 'make world' doesn't do this for you as it's too complicated for it to get it right - the config file syntax may have changed, some of the options might not exist any more, there may be new ones you want to add, etc. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 16:11:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA07671 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:11:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prop (prop.caribnet.net [205.214.195.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA07665 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:11:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 19:10:57 -0400 (AST) From: Sean Batson X-Sender: valtech@PPP3C.sunbeach.net To: James Raynard cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Offical Release of 2.2 In-Reply-To: <199606181758.RAA02135@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk would 2.1.5 have support for the atapi mitsumi cd rom? From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 16:13:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA07802 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:13:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA07776; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:12:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA11403; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:10:19 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606182310.QAA11403@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD works with Cy486DLC processors? To: michaelv@HeadCandy.com (Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:10:19 -0700 (MST) Cc: sos@FreeBSD.ORG, alex@fa.tdktca.com, bmk@fta.com, Eloy.Paris@ven.ra.rockwell.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, hal@wwa.com In-Reply-To: <199606181541.IAA16069@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> from "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" at Jun 18, 96 08:41:15 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Basically the root problem is twofold: 1) the kernel has _no_ way to > know what the right thing to do is, because it can't know how your > motherboard is designed, so it needs help by you setting the right > option, and 2) the 486DLC is sometimes expected to do an impossible > task: running in a 386 motherboard that has absolutely no support for > cache coherency. Actually, #1 is possible. 1) You know you have a DMA device 2) You have enough memory to read to cause the cache to flush (or if the processor supports BINVD, use that, or you can two stage it, by turning the caching off on some chips) 3) You DMA from two areas on the disk, verifying that the areas differ by flushing the target memory from the cache, with a memory roll-through or BINVD 4) You two's complement the data after setting up duplicate transactions but not initiating them (to avoid accidently flushing the target memory after the two's complement by way of executing too much driver code) 5) You trigger the test DMA's 6) You see if the memory are contains the complemented or the actual data This can be a pain, since minimizing the code path for trigger after setup can require significant driver changes. Alternately, you could build a DMA test card that wrote data to real memory locations which you can preset via outb. This would be good, but it not a general soloution. Rod could use a card like this, or he chould write code to make an Adaptec controller and a small pattern-containing SCSI disk act the same way -- but he's an OEM, and can afford the overhead for the benefit. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 16:18:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA08209 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:18:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twwells.com (twwells.com [199.79.159.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA08204 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:18:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by twwells.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0uWA11-0001IZC; Tue, 18 Jun 96 19:16 EDT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Subject: Re: -mm and 2.1 Date: 18 Jun 1996 19:16:51 -0400 Lines: 2 Message-ID: <4q7dd3$rmt@twwells.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.twwells.com Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Problem solved: the psroff command includes the -C option to groff and that doesn't work with -mm. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 16:19:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA08317 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA08311; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:19:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA11417; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:13:50 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606182313.QAA11417@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD works with Cy486DLC processors? To: mrm@marmot.Mole.ORG (M.R.Murphy) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:13:49 -0700 (MST) Cc: michaelv@HeadCandy.com, sos@freebsd.org, alex@fa.tdktca.com, bmk@fta.com, Eloy.Paris@ven.ra.rockwell.com, hal@wwa.com, hardware@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606181557.IAA20006@meerkat.mole.org> from "M.R.Murphy" at Jun 18, 96 08:57:26 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Actually, you shouldn't touch that DLC-specific code unless 1) you > > know what it does, 2) you have a non-traditional motherboard that has > > a chance of actually working. > > What do you think is a reasonable thing to do if Eloy's 486DX4/100 is > being misidentified as a 486DLC? Ignore it because it can't make the code act detrimentally? The only room for fatal error would be if the DLC was being seen as a DX4 *and* we had DLC-specific cache management code that *wasn't* being correctly triggered to take care of the DLC non-cacheable-bit honoring bug or the no-bus-snoop bug. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 16:23:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA08790 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:23:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA08782 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:23:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA11435; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:21:16 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606182321.QAA11435@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: PS/Valuepoint and keyboard hang on install To: aarond@btc.adaptec.com Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:21:16 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9606180030.AA17579@janeway> from "Aaron Dailey" at Jun 17, 96 06:30:55 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 2.1 Release on an IBM PS/Valuepoint > > > 6384, and get a keyboard lock once everything boots. I saw a > > > similar question in the mailing list database, but never saw a > > > resolution, and email bounces when I try to ask the person that sent > > > it. > > > > 1) Disable the psm driver initially > > > > boot -c > > visual > > > > > > I don't see a psm0 driver. Once I get to visual, under input devices > I have bus mouse (mse0) and syscons (sc0?). This is on the 2.1 > release boot disk. Am I missing something? Argh. You may need to get a boot disk from Nate Williams; is this a PS/2 style keyboard interface? Do you know if the keyboard starts in mode 3? This may be settable via advanced CMOS setup. You probably need the keyboard controller to explicitly set mode 1. I know the pccons (pc0 instead of sc0) code should do this. If you can't contact Nate directly, then try reposting under a subject like: "Keyboard lockup on PS/Valuepoint boot -- anyone have same?" To make it less easy to dismiss as an install problem. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 16:38:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA10022 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:38:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wedge.its.utas.edu.au (cp_nairn@wedge.its.utas.edu.au [131.217.10.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA10012 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:38:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cp_nairn@localhost) by wedge.its.utas.edu.au (8.7.1/8.6.6) id JAA13145; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 09:38:24 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 09:38:23 +1000 (EST) From: Carey Nairn X-Sender: cp_nairn@wedge.its.utas.edu.au To: Haytham Algyndy cc: questions@freebsd.com, jkh@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IDE CDROM configuration In-Reply-To: <199606181524.BAA17467@s4.elec.uq.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Your kernel options look OK (the same as mine) so I think we can rule that out. I have the CDROM in my machine as the slave device on my first IDE controller because I couldn't get it to work as the master on the second controller. I do remember having to make the wcd0c device again before it would work for me though. i.e. cd /dev sh MAKEDEV wcd0 after that it all worked. cheers, Carey On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, Haytham Algyndy wrote: > Hi > > I'm a bit confused about configuring the CDROM. > The CDROM that I'm using is a Creative-Labs CD, > (It is detected by win95 as a Goldstar GCD-R542B) > Quad speed and is connected alone to the secondary IDE > port. The following lines are added to my kernel. > > options ATAPI > options "CD9660" > controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 vector wdintr > device wcd0 > > The machine is a 486 DX2 clone, with a 1.7GB IBM disk, NE2000 compatible card. > Now > > In the handbook, the wcd0 is referred to as controller rather than > device. > > I've tried compiling my kernel for each (controller & device) and I get > /dev/wcd0c device not configured > > message whenever I try to mount my CD in each situation. > > Any help appreciated > Thank you > haytham > -- > ________________________________________________________________________ > Haytham Abd-Alsalam Algyndy > Dept. of Elec. and Comp. Eng. > The UNIVERSITY of QUEENSLAND > Brisbane 4072, Queensland > Australia > haytham@elec.uq.edu.au > tel. 61 - 07 - 365 356 4 (AW) > Fax. 61 - 07 - 365 499 9 > ________________________________________________________________________ > ========================================================================= Carey Nairn ! email : Carey.Nairn@its.utas.edu.au Networks and Communications ! phone : (002) 20 7419 Information Technology Services ! fax : (002) 20 7898 University of Tasmania. ! ========================================================================= From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 16:49:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA10541 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:49:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA10536 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by ref.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA05055 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:49:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA03975; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:42:42 -0600 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:42:42 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199606182342.RAA03975@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: Terry Lambert Cc: aarond@btc.adaptec.com, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PS/Valuepoint and keyboard hang on install In-Reply-To: <199606182321.QAA11435@phaeton.artisoft.com> References: <9606180030.AA17579@janeway> <199606182321.QAA11435@phaeton.artisoft.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 2.1 Release on an IBM PS/Valuepoint > > > > 6384, and get a keyboard lock once everything boots. > > I don't see a psm0 driver. Once I get to visual, under input devices > > I have bus mouse (mse0) and syscons (sc0?). This is on the 2.1 > > release boot disk. Am I missing something? > > Argh. You may need to get a boot disk from Nate Williams; is this > a PS/2 style keyboard interface? Do you know if the keyboard starts > in mode 3? If it does, you can try the ThinkPad boot floppy out, but that doesn't fix 'lockups'. When you are in the wrong mode, it's pretty obvious as every key you touch doesn't do what you want it to do. (But it *does* do something). You could try 'bouncing on the num-lock' key during bootup to see if that helps. If it does then we've still got the lurking bug, but generally speaking it goes away after you build a custom kernel. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 17:06:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA11625 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:06:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from distortion.eng.umd.edu (distortion.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA11619 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:06:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from skipper.eng.umd.edu (skipper.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.208]) by distortion.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA09700; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 20:06:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by skipper.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA02676; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 20:06:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 20:06:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@skipper.eng.umd.edu To: "T. William Wells" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: -mm and 2.1 In-Reply-To: <4q7dd3$rmt@twwells.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 18 Jun 1996, T. William Wells wrote: > Problem solved: the psroff command includes the -C option to groff > and that doesn't work with -mm. > I honestly can't see any reason for the psroff command to exist. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 17:14:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA12083 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:14:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lobster.wellfleet.com (lobster.corpeast.baynetworks.com [192.32.253.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA12078 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:14:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pobox.BayNetworks.com by lobster.wellfleet.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-4.1) id UAA03334; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 20:15:52 -0400 Received: from tuva.engeast.baynetworks.com by pobox.BayNetworks.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24120; Tue, 18 Jun 96 20:13:27 EDT Received: from localhost.engeast.baynetworks.com (localhost.engeast.baynetworks.com [127.0.0.1]) by tuva.engeast.baynetworks.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA27443 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 20:13:26 -0400 Message-Id: <199606190013.UAA27443@tuva.engeast.baynetworks.com> X-Authentication-Warning: tuva.engeast.baynetworks.com: Host localhost.engeast.baynetworks.com didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Can FreeBSD 2.1 generate executables for BSDI? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 20:13:26 -0400 From: Robert Withrow Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can I convince FreeBSD to generate a static image that BSDI can be persuaded to run? Or is this a one-way street into FreeBSD? -- Robert Withrow -- (+1 508 436 8256) BWithrow@BayNetworks.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 17:27:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA12612 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:27:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA12607 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA04124; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:27:04 -0600 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:27:04 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199606190027.SAA04124@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: Robert Withrow Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can FreeBSD 2.1 generate executables for BSDI? In-Reply-To: <199606190013.UAA27443@tuva.engeast.baynetworks.com> References: <199606190013.UAA27443@tuva.engeast.baynetworks.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Can I convince FreeBSD to generate a static image that > BSDI can be persuaded to run? Or is this a one-way > street into FreeBSD? Unless you can convince the BSDi folks to emulate our system calls, this is a one-way street. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 18:32:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA15520 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:32:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA15507 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:32:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA11689; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:29:51 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606190129.SAA11689@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Question To: shigeom@isl.rdc.toshiba.co.jp (Shigeo Matsuzawa / =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPj5fNxsoQg==?=) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:29:51 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199606180644.PAA00684@genuine.isl.rdc.toshiba.co.jp> from "Shigeo Matsuzawa / =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPj5fNxsoQg==?=" at Jun 18, 96 03:44:30 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > We are considerring to sell a commercial product that uses a > Free-BSD in it. > In order to develop this product, we did refer the source code. > Each product will contain Free-BSD with our original code. > > Our question is, in this case, what procedures do we have to do ? > When you give us an approriate information (e.g., contact point > to talk), it will be very appreciated. > > Thank you in advance, > > Shigeo Matsuzawa > Toshiba Corporation in Japan. For more detailed information, you should contact Jordan Hubbard, President of The FreeBSD Project, Inc.. His email addres is jkh@freebsd.org I suggest using the subject "COMMERCIAL USE REQUIREMENTS". I hope the following information is enough to get you started, in any case. ==================================================================== In general, pulling the licenses together from all software which makes up the complete system, and identifying components based on licensing terms, can be done in about 2 engineering days. If you can restrict your "required component list" as much as possible, you can cut this time dramatically. You should probably expend the effort "up front"; unfortunately, no one has done this so far, and then returned the results of the study to the FreeBSD project for module tag insertion, so the components can be searched by licensing terms. The most effective way would be to place a "LICENSE" directory in each subdirectory that was the root for a component so you could search components by copyright, derivation, and terms (which could be three files in the "LICENSE" subdirectory). Once this has been completed, you can agregate the licenses. In general, the BSD licenses will be of the form: [] [ ... ] Your lawyers need only examine the unique licensing terms on a case by case basis for the components you wish to include in your product, and make a general assessment of the acceptability of the license requirements for display of copyright, derivation clauses, or additional clauses as the licensing terms require. ==================================================================== One of the major philosphical underpinnings of the FreeBSD project is that the core system should be distributable in modified binary form, by commercial entities, for profit. Because of this, GPL/LGPL and similarly licensed components are used only where no less commercially restricted component exists. Here is a non-legally-binding opinion (mine) on the licensing structure of FreeBSD; it is presented as a posit/decision/result tree: 1) FreeBSD is divided into "system critical", "commercial use", and "GPL/LGPL/similar" components. If your system uses only "system critical" components from FreeBSD, you will have to obey the general UCB-style licensing terms. If your system uses "commercial use" components, you will also have to obey the licensing for the component in question. In general, these components will be under licensing equal to or less restrictive than UCB licensing. If your system uses "GPL/LGPL/similar" components, you will also have to obey the corresponding licensing _for those components_. In general, BSD's use of "GPL/LGPL/similar" components comes under the "mere agregation" clause of those licenses. 2) Terms of the UCB-style licensing. There are several major licenses that fall into the "UCB-style licensing" category. The main ones are the UCB license, the CMU license, and the X Consortium License. The main tenets of these licenses are: (a) You agree to hold harmless the authors of the code for incidental and consequential damages, including "fitness for use" and DFARS clauses. This clause is to protect the authors from legal actions resulting from use of the code. (b) You agree to leave the license statement in source code in any source distributions you make. This clause is intended to protect the authors in the case that you derive work from their code in the case that you do not choose to explicitly disclaim liability as well, they do not assume liability. You are *not* required to make source distributions. (c) You agree to put the license statement in any documentation and/or accompanying materials with any binary distribution. This clause is to identify derivation of the code and to include the diclaimer of liability on the derivation. It does not modify any terms and conditions you may choose to _also_ place on the code. It does _not_ grant distribution rights to your code, or to the agregate work. You are free to dictate terms, as long as you maintain the liability limitation for the original authors. (d) If you advertise mentioning features or use of the software, you must include an acknowledgement in the advertising. This clause is the credit clause. If you advertise a feature that is a feature of the code covered by the license rather than just features of the code you have added to the agregate, you must include the acknodledgement. If you advertize that you include the software, without mentioning a specific feature, you must include the acknoledgement. (e) You are not allowed to imply endorsement of your product by the copyright holder, without written permission, or to use the name of the copyright holder to promote the product. This clause is the "good name" clause, where you are not allowed to use someone else's good name without their permission; it accords the name of the authors effective trademark protection of their name, and then allows some use of the "trademark". (f) Some licenses, notably the CMU license, request that you contribute changes back to the copyright holder. You are _not_ required to contribute changes back, this is just a request. Example usage: Company wishes to include the merged VM/buffer cache code in a product. They wish to tout the merged cache in their advertising as a feature of their agregate product. They will be making a binary only distribution of the agregate system. The requirements are: (a) You agree to hold the authors harmless (b) N/A: no source distribution is planned (c)(1) You must include the copyright statement in your documentation and/or accomanying materials (like a README or COPYRIGHT or NOTICE file): Copyright (c) 1990 University of Utah. Copyright (c) 1991 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Copyright (c) 1993, 1994 John S. Dyson Copyright (c) 1995, David Greenman This code is derived from software contributed to Berkeley by the Systems Programming Group of the University of Utah Computer Science Department. Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are met: 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright [ ... ] (c)(2) You can preface this with a statement noting agregation or modification, and your licensing terms. For instance: PORTIONS OF THIS PRODUCT ARE DERIVED FROM SOURCE CODE DISTRIBUTER UNDER THE FOLLOWING TERMS: (d)(1) You can reference the merged VM/buffer cache in your advertising of your product. If you do, you must put the notice ("the fine print") somewhere in the ad (a footnote, or elsewhere): This product includes software developed by the University of California, Berkeley and its contributors. (d)(2) You can say "Based on the BSD 4.4 Lite distribution"; if you do, you must put the notice somewhere on the ad: This product includes software developed by the University of California, Berkeley and its contributors. (d)(3) You can decide not mention the features or use of the software in the ad; if you do not, you need not put the notice in the ad. (e)(1) You can't say "John Dyson approves this product" without written permission. (e)(2) You can't say "as written by John Dyson and David Greenman" in your ad, unless you get their written permission. (f) N/A: You are not required to give away any code you have added to the code from which you derived your product. There are good reasons, including reduced maintenance costs and the ability to more easily utilize new revisions of the code in new revisions of your derivitive work, for doing so. But it is not a requirement. 3) Terms of "commercial use" components not under UCB-style licensing. There are a number of system components which are distributed under licenses which allow use of the code in commercial products. In general, these fall into the "less restrictive than UCB license" category. The terms of the licenses vary from component to component, and you will need to determine compliance on a case-by-case basis. In most of these cases, the restrictions are in the form of "hold harmless" plus one or more non-binding "requests" (cv: Poul-Henning Kamp's "BeerWare" license). 4) Terms of the GPL/LGPL. Both of these licenses are well known. It is the stated policy of the FreeBSD project, at numerous times in the past, to avoid GPL/LGPL encumberances on code, which would prevent commercial use without commercially difficult encumberances. It is recommended that the GPL/LGPL components be left out of a derivative commercial product. Alternately, they could be included, with their source code, on the CDROM, unmodified. If you wish to derive works from GPL/LGPL'ed code, you should contact the original authors is you wish to negotiate some alternate distribution terms. Otherwise, you must obey the GPL/LGPL _for those components_; the use of GPL/LGPL components in FreeBSD falls under the "mere agregation" clause of both licenses, so other components are not affected (for example, you could have a "sanitized" tree with no GPL/LGPL components, include the GCC/GLD developement environment, and provide source code only for the developement environment as part of your distribution). Regards, Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 18:38:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA15774 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA15769 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA11717; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:35:39 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606190135.SAA11717@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Primary or Logical Partition To: William.Ying@ccgate.Barra.COM Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:35:39 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9605188351.AA835112464@ccgate.barra.com> from "William.Ying@ccgate.Barra.COM" at Jun 18, 96 08:34:08 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Can FreeBSD be installed on a Extended Logical Partition of a hard > drive? It seems like when I use FreeBSD fdisk to create a partition, > it automatically creates a primary partition. Is there a way to make > it be a logical partition? Thank you very much! DOS can not boot an OS from an extended partition. There are some boot managers that can do this. I believe that the one that comes with FreeBSD isn't one of them. If you have the OS/2 boot manager, you may be able to make this boot. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 18:39:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA15803 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zit1.zit.th-darmstadt.de (root@zit1.zit.th-darmstadt.de [130.83.63.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA15798 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:39:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [130.83.63.13] (apfel.zit.th-darmstadt.de [130.83.63.13]) by zit1.zit.th-darmstadt.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id DAA10777; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 03:38:59 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: petzi@mail.zit.th-darmstadt.de (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199606181451.KAA02719@crh.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 03:37:46 +0200 To: Charles Henrich , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Beckmann Subject: Re: A useful mirror, anywhere?! Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 10:51 Uhr -0400 18.6.1996, Charles Henrich wrote: >Does anyone, anywhere, have a mirror that actually works?! The one out of >ports just spins, the one I had previously bloats and sucks up 200MB ram and >dies. Do I really need to write a C version of this beasty? Get the most recent reason of mirror from ports (2.8) . Then you should also have the most recent version of Perl (5.002 I believe; is also in the ports collection). Make sure that mirror uses this version of Perl (you may have to edit the mirror script for this). After that, it will work MUCH better. I think your problem is from a memory leak in version 4 of Perl. (I had the same problem; solved it as described) Michael From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 18:58:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA16862 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:58:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lynx.its.unimelb.edu.au (lynx.its.unimelb.EDU.AU [128.250.20.151]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA16853 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:58:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from danny@localhost) by lynx.its.unimelb.edu.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA11582; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 11:57:49 +1000 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 11:57:47 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: questions@freebsd.org cc: brenda@thereef.com.au Subject: BSD/OS 2.0 support Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I know 2.2 supports BSD/OS 2.0 binaries, but will this feature be in 2.1.5-RELEASE? Danny From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 19:15:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA17470 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 19:15:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rdpc1.ahs.kitasato-u.ac.jp (rdpc1.ahs.kitasato-u.ac.jp [202.24.142.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA17457 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 19:14:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rdpc1 (rdpc1 [202.24.142.66]) by rdpc1.ahs.kitasato-u.ac.jp (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA01816; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 11:14:47 GMT Message-ID: <31C7E127.41C67EA6@rdpc1.ahs.kitasato-u.ac.jp> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 11:14:47 +0000 From: Tomoyuki Hasegawa Organization: Kitasato University, Allied Health Sciences X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (X11; I; BSD/386 uname failed) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org CC: hasegawa@rdpc1.ahs.kitasato-u.ac.jp Subject: [Q]cap60 compile error Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Excuse me. I need your advice. I am afraid this may be a FAQ. But I could not solve my problem. I can not compile cap60 "make install" output the following error message. I have read in FAQs that cap60 was running on FreeBSD. What's wrong? I would appreciate your advice. Thank you very much in advance. ==environment================ Pentium 120MHz FreeBSD 2.0.5-950622-SNA "Native EtherTalk Phase 2" selected in "Configure" CAP Distribution 6.0, Patch Level 197, April 1996 ==the error messages========= (cd etc; make install) strip atis mkdir /usr/local/cap /usr/local/cap mkdir: /usr/local/cap: File exists mkdir: /usr/local/cap: File exists *** Error code 1 (ignored) cp atis /usr/local/cap (cd samples; make install) "makefile", line 97: Need an operator Fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue *** Error code 1 (ignored) (cd contrib; make install) strip cvt2apple cvt2cap lwrename printqueue snitch aufsmkusr aufsmkkey cp cvt2apple cvt2cap /usr/local/cap cp lwrename printqueue snitch aufsmkusr aufsmkkey /usr/local/cap (cd applications; make install) (cd lwsrv; make install) cc -DBYTESWAPPED -DPHASE2 -O -c lwsrvconfig.c lwsrvconfig.c: In function `strdup': lwsrvconfig.c:675: argument `str' doesn't match prototype /usr/include/string.h:85: prototype declaration *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 (ignored) (cd support/uab; make install) (cd support/capd; make install) (cd support/ethertalk; make install) strip aarpd cp aarpd /usr/local/cap ========================================================================= Tomoyuki Hasegawa : Kitasato University, School of Allied Health Sciences hasegawa@rdpc1.ahs.kitasato-u.ac.jp TEL=0427-78-9614 FAX=0427-78-9629 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 19:58:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA20605 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 19:58:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from net1.netview.net ([199.3.74.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA20593 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 19:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from corona (corona.netview.net [206.223.98.2]) by net1.netview.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA02204 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 21:58:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 21:58:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960618215956.0093dfc4@netview.net> X-Sender: jrclark@netview.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: John Clark Subject: apachie web alias Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, wondering if I could get some advice on configuring apachie to respond to 2 IP's. My server sits on two networks, and has 2 IP addresses. I have set my www ip to the "better" IP, but other domain names are the "worse" IP, and I want to respond to them too. ie. coolnet.net 10.1.1.1 coolnet.net 192.2.2.2 www.coolnet.net 10.1.1.1 I set the apachie bindaddress to 10.1.1.1 (www.coolnet.net), but if someone hits the site using "coolnet.net" (that is 192.2.2.2), I want to respond to that, and give a server directive to switch to "www.coolnet.net." I assume a server alias is in order, but have failed thus far at implementing and such technique. Any help is appreciated. Thanks, John Clark [jrclark@netview.net] From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 20:29:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA26786 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 20:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns3.mke.ab.com (ns3.mke.ab.com [130.151.86.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA26721; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 20:29:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from by ns3.mke.ab.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AB13698; Tue, 18 Jun 96 22:29:12 CDT Received: from slip1.ven.ra.rockwell.com (slip1.ven.ra.rockwell.com [130.151.17.162]) by zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA26673; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 23:27:18 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 23:27:18 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960618234526.258f136e@zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com> Organization: Rockwell Automation de Venezuela X-Sender: eparis@zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org From: "Eloy A. Paris" Subject: My Cyrix microprocessor/motherboard problems Cc: Gary Chrysler , "Lenzi, Sergio" , "M.R.Murphy" , "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" , sos@freebsd.org, Terry Lambert , Didier Derny , Alex Nash , "Andrew V. Stesin" , "Brant M. Katkansky" , "David Alderman" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello everyone. I would like to thank all of you guys that have helped me out with the problems I am experiencing with my Cyrix 486DX4/100 and my motherboard. They are bombing my processes with signals 10 (bus error) and 11 (segmentation fault) - almost all of them are 11. I am very impressed with the amount of responses I have received (29 so far) in less than 24 hours. All people that have sent suggestions and comments to me are in the "Cc:" field of this message. Thank you all!! The problem still persist after trying every single suggestion you gave me that was not a hardware change (microprocessor or motherboard.) I played with things like wait states, clock rates in the motherboard, internal and external caches disables and enables, kernel recompilation to have the needed devices, etc. Someone told me about a bug in 2.1.0-RELEASE but I personally do not think this is the cause of my problem. I have a Dell Latitude XPi notebook with a Pentium 90 and running FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE and it has NEVER given to me any bus error or segmentation faults. The same person that told me about the bug told me to get the latest 2.1.0-stable but he also pointed out that the problems would still persist because they seem to be hardware related. I, as I think everybody else does, agree. I recognize I have a cheap motherboard. I need and want to solve this problem so my action items for the following days are (in order): 1) Replace the Cyrix 486DX4 with a genuine Intel DX4. 2) If this still gives segmentation faults, the problem is not the CPU or it is a combination of both the Cyrix and the motherboard so I am going to take my IDE harddrive with FreeBSD to another machine with an Intel DX2/66 with a motherboard I know that works (it's a Digital computer, like one that has been running Linux for about a year now with no problems - very good quality). I want to test my FreeBSD installation just to be sure. This should work so my next action item will be: 3) Get a different motherboard, one of good quality. I'll try to test the Cyrix DX4 on it just to know if the problem is the microprocessor or the motherboard. These 3 action items should take me to the solution or at least help us to find out who is causing the problems. These action items depend on how helpful my hardware vendor will be :-( I am going to use minimal hardware on these tests: my 1 Gig. hard drive, two serial ports, one parallel port and 16 Megs. of RAM. No external caches (because I do not have any). The problem is very easy to reproduce: just recompile the kernel, bind or elm or just the command "cd /usr/local/bin; man -a *|col -b > /var/tmp/junk_test" (as suggested by Gary Chrysler ). I will keep y'all informed of any progress. See ya!!! Eloy.- -- Eloy A. Paris Global Technical Services Rockwell Automation de Venezuela Telephone: 58-2-9432311 Fax: 58-2-9430323 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 20:40:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA29475 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 20:40:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from milpitas.adaptec.com (milpitas.adaptec.com [162.62.21.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA29452 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 20:40:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from btc.btc.adaptec.com ([162.62.63.6]) by milpitas.adaptec.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18379; Tue, 18 Jun 96 20:36:57 PDT Received: from Unknown (cosmos.btc.adaptec.com [162.62.63.104]) by btc.btc.adaptec.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA27603; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 21:37:05 -0600 Message-Id: <199606190337.VAA27603@btc.btc.adaptec.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Aaron Dailey" To: Terry Lambert , Nate Williams Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 21:26:29 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: PS/Valuepoint and keyboard hang on install Cc: questions@freebsd.org Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:42:42 -0600 > From: Nate Williams > To: Terry Lambert > Cc: aarond@btc.btc.adaptec.com, questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: PS/Valuepoint and keyboard hang on install > > > > > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 2.1 Release on an IBM PS/Valuepoint > > > > > 6384, and get a keyboard lock once everything boots. > > > > I don't see a psm0 driver. Once I get to visual, under input devices > > > I have bus mouse (mse0) and syscons (sc0?). This is on the 2.1 > > > release boot disk. Am I missing something? > > > > Argh. You may need to get a boot disk from Nate Williams; is this > > a PS/2 style keyboard interface? Do you know if the keyboard starts > > in mode 3? > > If it does, you can try the ThinkPad boot floppy out, but that doesn't > fix 'lockups'. When you are in the wrong mode, it's pretty obvious as > every key you touch doesn't do what you want it to do. (But it *does* > do something). > My experience is that every key does nothing past a certain point. I tried bouncing the num lock key during boot up - right after the uncompressing kernel message the num lock light stops toggling, and other keys don't work. Where can I get the thinkpad boot floppy, or would it even help? > You could try 'bouncing on the num-lock' key during bootup to see if > that helps. If it does then we've still got the lurking bug, but > generally speaking it goes away after you build a custom kernel. > > > > Nate > Thanks, Aaron Dailey aarond@btc.adaptec.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 20:40:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA29524 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 20:40:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from milpitas.adaptec.com (milpitas.adaptec.com [162.62.21.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA29499 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 20:40:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from btc.btc.adaptec.com ([162.62.63.6]) by milpitas.adaptec.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18382; Tue, 18 Jun 96 20:37:14 PDT Received: from Unknown (cosmos.btc.adaptec.com [162.62.63.104]) by btc.btc.adaptec.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA27654; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 21:40:49 -0600 Message-Id: <199606190340.VAA27654@btc.btc.adaptec.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Aaron Dailey" To: Terry Lambert , Nate Williams Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 21:26:29 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: PS/Valuepoint and keyboard hang on install Cc: questions@freebsd.org Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:42:42 -0600 > From: Nate Williams > To: Terry Lambert > Cc: aarond@btc.btc.adaptec.com, questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: PS/Valuepoint and keyboard hang on install > > > > > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 2.1 Release on an IBM PS/Valuepoint > > > > > 6384, and get a keyboard lock once everything boots. > > > > I don't see a psm0 driver. Once I get to visual, under input devices > > > I have bus mouse (mse0) and syscons (sc0?). This is on the 2.1 > > > release boot disk. Am I missing something? > > > > Argh. You may need to get a boot disk from Nate Williams; is this > > a PS/2 style keyboard interface? Do you know if the keyboard starts > > in mode 3? > > If it does, you can try the ThinkPad boot floppy out, but that doesn't > fix 'lockups'. When you are in the wrong mode, it's pretty obvious as > every key you touch doesn't do what you want it to do. (But it *does* > do something). > My experience is that every key does nothing past a certain point. I tried bouncing the num lock key during boot up - right after the uncompressing kernel message the num lock light stops toggling, and other keys don't work. Where can I get the thinkpad boot floppy, or would it even help? > You could try 'bouncing on the num-lock' key during bootup to see if > that helps. If it does then we've still got the lurking bug, but > generally speaking it goes away after you build a custom kernel. > > > > Nate > Thanks, Aaron Dailey aarond@btc.adaptec.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 20:43:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA00164 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 20:43:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA00132 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 20:43:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA04528; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 21:42:57 -0600 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 21:42:57 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199606190342.VAA04528@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: "Aaron Dailey" Cc: Nate Williams , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PS/Valuepoint and keyboard hang on install In-Reply-To: <199606190337.VAA27603@btc.btc.adaptec.com> References: <199606190337.VAA27603@btc.btc.adaptec.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > > > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 2.1 Release on an IBM PS/Valuepoint > > > > > > 6384, and get a keyboard lock once everything boots. > > > > If it does, you can try the ThinkPad boot floppy out, but that doesn't > > fix 'lockups'. When you are in the wrong mode, it's pretty obvious as > > every key you touch doesn't do what you want it to do. (But it *does* > > do something). > > > > My experience is that every key does nothing past a certain point. > I tried bouncing the num lock key during boot up - right after the > uncompressing kernel message the num lock light stops toggling, and > other keys don't work. Keep toggling the num-lock key until *something* happens. When it goes off and doesn't come on for awhile is when the 'toggling' will help. (That's when the keyboard probe is happening and things are disabled.) > Where can I get the thinkpad boot floppy, or would it even help? Not if it's totally locked up. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 20:43:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA00177 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 20:43:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xi.dorm.umd.edu (root@lennon-c02.aa.net [204.157.220.166]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA00153 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 20:43:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (smpatel@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xi.dorm.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA00511; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 20:43:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 20:43:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Sujal Patel X-Sender: smpatel@xi.dorm.umd.edu To: Branson Matheson cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sound and Light... In-Reply-To: <199606181605.MAA00547@garion.hq.ferg.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Branson Matheson wrote: > 1. I am working with my wonderful new ( cheap ) sb clone. It is plug and > break but that is another issue... I have it working correctly under MSDOG and > it > shows up just fine on my HP ( has PnB built into the MB ) and I can play > sounds.. sort of... take for instance the budfrogs.au.. I get thru a couple of > crickets and a resounding 'BUD' and then nothing... it also manages to lock-up > my au server and auplay. I have to kill it off. xmix seems to work fine.. but > au and rplay both lockup after the BUD. Config.. 0x220, IRQ7, DMA 1 ( I have > diabled the lp port ). anyone have any idears? This is characteristic of a IRQ conflict, I would try to move it or make sure again that lpt0 is disabled. Sujal From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 20:47:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA00663 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 20:47:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from synwork.com (flaq@synwork.com [199.3.234.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA00651 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 20:47:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (flaq@localhost) by synwork.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA18234; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 22:45:39 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 22:45:39 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike K." To: John Clark cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apachie web alias In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960618215956.0093dfc4@netview.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You need to add a entry in httpd.conf On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, John Clark wrote: > Hello, wondering if I could get some advice on configuring apachie to > respond to 2 IP's. My server sits on two networks, and has 2 IP addresses. > I have set my www ip to the "better" IP, but other domain names are the > "worse" IP, and I want to respond to them too. > > ie. > coolnet.net 10.1.1.1 > coolnet.net 192.2.2.2 > www.coolnet.net 10.1.1.1 > > I set the apachie bindaddress to 10.1.1.1 (www.coolnet.net), but if someone > hits the site using "coolnet.net" (that is 192.2.2.2), I want to respond to > that, and give a server directive to switch to "www.coolnet.net." > > I assume a server alias is in order, but have failed thus far at > implementing and such technique. Any help is appreciated. > > Thanks, > > > > John Clark > [jrclark@netview.net] > > ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Syn-Work Media, Inc. | WWW Development & Hosting | Life Safety http://www.synwork.com | Systems Integration | CCTV mike@synwork.com | Voice/Data/Fiber | Access Control Flaq on IRC | Dukane Distributor | BICSI/RCDD ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 21:20:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA07919 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 21:20:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (root@gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA07895 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 21:20:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by gallup.cia-g.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA29467 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 22:20:56 -0600 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 22:20:55 -0600 (MDT) From: Stephen Fisher To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: 3c509 problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, I'm having a problem with a 3com 3c509 combo card. When I stick the card in and boot up FreeBSD (2.1R) it gives the message: 1 3C5x9 board(s) on ISA found at 0x300 ep0: 3c5x9 at 0x300 in test mode, Erase pencil mark! ep0: eeprom failed to come ready. epprobe: ignoring model ffff ep0 not found at 0x300 Thus no ep0 device is available for ifconfig. I have tried two different slots and two different 3c509 cards to no avail. However, the weird thing is when I put in a non combo 3c509 (Just AUI & 10BaseT ports, no BNC) it works fine (not good when you run BNC on your network, have to use a transciever). I remember seeing mention of this error a while back, but could not remember nor dig up any additional information on it. Any ideas? TIA, - Steve From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 21:24:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA08984 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 21:24:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tombstone.sunrem.com (tombstone.sunrem.com [206.81.134.54]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA08973 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 21:24:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brandon@localhost) by tombstone.sunrem.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA03661; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 22:24:39 -0600 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 22:24:38 -0600 (MDT) From: Brandon Gillespie To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Windows 95 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 17 Jun 1996, Howard Lew wrote: > On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, Flavio Sa wrote: > > Can Windows 95 and Free BSD share a computer? > > > > Should I follow the install.txt intructions considering DOS? > > > > Thanks, > > Not a new questions.... That setup should be fine. A boot manager should > take care of the problem.... backup your data first. Not necessarily true, I'm running two systems, which are nearly identical with the exception that one is running a Cyrix 586 and the other a Pentium 100. I started from scratch, partitioned the drive and installed a base win95 system first, then I installed 2.1-R. I have had no END of problems with the 2.1-R system, from not being able to even RECOGNIZE a standard hitachi 4x speed IDE CDROM to failing out randomly at floppy reads (where the reads work fine on other 2.1-R systems--same disks). Fearing a hardware problem I sent the computer to a shop for some diagnostics, all returned fine. I'm not about to test it as far as soft/cold reboots from/to win95 and BSD. I can say one thing: AAARRRRGGGH!!!!! (You spend $1500 on a computer, it would be nice if it worked like you wanted it to :( -Brandon Gillespie From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 22:58:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA15340 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 22:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from colombia.it.earthlink.net (colombia-c.it.earthlink.net [206.250.118.243]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA15334 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 22:58:35 -0700 (PDT) From: topdog@earthlink.net Received: from DOGHOUSE (pool044.Max7.Seattle.WA.DYNIP.ALTER.NET [153.37.128.44]) by colombia.it.earthlink.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA25893 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 22:58:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 22:58:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606190558.WAA25893@colombia.it.earthlink.net> X-Sender: topdog@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: installing freebsd with win95 already installed Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a 1.3GB hard drive with 500MG free, and Windows95 installed.. drive map is .. A = 5.25" drive, B = 3.5" drive C = main drive w\ Win95 installed, D = ZIP Drive, E = CD-ROM. I was wondering if it was possible for me to have FreeBSD and Windows 95 installed. Thankyou / SoNiK's mIRC Page / http://home.earthlink.net/~topdog/ topdog@earthlink.net From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 23:19:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA16356 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 23:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from s4.elec.uq.edu.au (haytham@s4.elec.uq.edu.au [130.102.96.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA16350 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 23:19:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from haytham@localhost) by s4.elec.uq.edu.au (8.7.1/8.6.12) id QAA19566; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 16:18:50 +1000 (EST) From: Haytham Algyndy Message-Id: <199606190618.QAA19566@s4.elec.uq.edu.au> Subject: Re: IDE CDROM configuration To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 16:18:50 +1000 (EST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <12255.835117282@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Jun 18, 96 10:01:22 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Quad speed and is connected alone to the secondary IDE > > port. The following lines are added to my kernel. > > If you have only one wd hard disk then it has to be the secondary > (slave) device on the primary controller - it won't work otherwise! :( > > Jordan > Thanks for the tip Actually I was browsing in the new CDROM drivers in the incoming subdir on your ftp site, when in one of the documentations for a CD driver, the author (can't remember his name now) said that the problem with CD's is that they are always shipped in slave configuration. Thus I checked my CD and found it configured as slave. I changed it to master and put it again on the secondary port as master, and it worked fine though it gives the following bootup message : atapi1.0 unknown phase. I don't think it's serious, but I thought I should tell this Thanks again for the concern Haytham ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Haytham Abd-Alsalam Algyndy Dept. of Elec. and Comp. Eng. The UNIVERSITY of QUEENSLAND Brisbane 4072, Queensland Australia haytham@elec.uq.edu.au tel. 61 - 07 - 365 356 4 (AW) Fax. 61 - 07 - 365 499 9 ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 18 23:32:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA16894 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 23:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mole.mole.org (marmot.mole.org [204.216.57.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA16884 for ; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 23:32:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mole.mole.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id FAA00288; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 05:04:32 GMT Received: from meerkat.mole.org(206.197.192.110) by mole.mole.org via smap (V1.3) id sma000286; Wed Jun 19 05:04:12 1996 Received: (from mrm@localhost) by meerkat.mole.org (8.6.11/8.6.9) id WAA21370; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 22:04:11 -0700 Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 22:04:11 -0700 From: "M.R.Murphy" Message-Id: <199606190504.WAA21370@meerkat.mole.org> To: terry@lambert.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD works with Cy486DLC processors? Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [solutions 1-4 deleted...] >Hope this clears things up. Nicely put. There is a fifth solution WRT DMA. Don't use the Cyrix486DLC with DMA. Just put an IDE or MFM or RLL controller in the box with it and let it hum away. Works for me fine with SVR2 ( :-) ) on a 486DLC40 with RLL controller. However, Eloy has a Cyrix 486DX4/100 (marketspeak) that's misidentified as a 486DLC. I suspect it's a bad motherboard causing the problem, but it's only a suspicion. There's the question of why the Cyrix 486DX2/66 that I have behaves wierdly that's in the back of my mind. My Cyrix 486DX2/66 is a SCSI (Adaptec 1542B) system. Runs at 25MHz but not 33MHz. Easiest solution is use an AMD or Intel chip with a good motherboard, but what fun would that be? ;-) -- Mike Murphy mrm@Mole.ORG +1 619 598 5874 Better is the enemy of Good From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 00:05:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA18186 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 00:05:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA18181 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 00:05:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mekong.biomath.jussieu.fr (mekong.biomath.jussieu.fr [134.157.72.87]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.7.5/jtpda-5.2) with SMTP id JAA22461 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 09:05:15 +0200 (METDST) Received: from iaka.biomath.jussieu.fr (iaka) by mekong.biomath.jussieu.fr (5.67b/jn930126+af960507(mailhost)) at Wed, 19 Jun 1996 09:04:53 +0100 Received: by iaka.biomath.jussieu.fr (5.67b/jf930126) at Wed, 19 Jun 1996 09:04:52 +0100 Message-Id: <199606190804.AA28032@iaka.biomath.jussieu.fr> Subject: Re: Max first parameter of a Select call? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 09:04:52 +0100 (GMT+0100) From: "Alain FAUCONNET" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Christiaan Keet wrote / a ecrit: > > How do you get the 'select' call in FreeBSD to be happy with something > greater than 256 as a first parameter? > Anything above this seems to give a "Select error 22 - invalid argument" > Not a reply, just a followup: this "feature" seems to have a lot of interesting side effects on my machine (2.1-STABLE pre-earthquake). When I set user resources limits to hard limits ("unlimit" C-shell command) and the max file descriptors goes >> 256, sudo no longer works ("Password:" prompt exits immediately), fvwm sets system load at 1.0 permanently. I have ktraced fvwm and actually saw that select returning an error. Everything goes back to normal when I set max fd <= 256. I pulled my hair for a while on this. Why unlimiting ? for some reason on my machine maxproc per user is set to 40 by the shell (tcsh) (despite MAXUSERS=64 in the config file) which is just too low. I get frequent fork errors. Now I unlimit more selectively :-) _Alain_ -- Alain FAUCONNET Ingenieur systeme - System Manager AP-HP/SIM Public Health 91 bld de l'Hopital 75013 PARIS FRANCE Medical Computing Research Labs Mail: af@biomath.jussieu.fr Tel: (+33) 1-40-77-96-19 Fax: (+33) 1-45-86-80-68 I've RTFMed. It says: "Refer to your system administrator" But... I *am* the system administrator :-] From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 00:33:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA19469 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 00:33:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from escape.cs.ibank.ru (escape.cs.ibank.ru [194.58.131.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA19460 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 00:32:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from igor@localhost) by escape.cs.ibank.ru (8.7.5/8.7.3/Zynaps) id LAA05837 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 11:32:29 +0400 (MSD) From: Igor Vinokurov Message-Id: <199606190732.LAA05837@escape.cs.ibank.ru> Subject: /usr/bin/chat don't work? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 11:32:28 +0400 (MSD) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have problem :) Under 2.1R I use slattach with /usr/bin/chat as modem dialer (which send to modem ATZ/ATDT/etc) and enjoying... But I install new 960606 SNAP and chat does't work :( Any changes in kernel/etc? Can I continue use chat for this task or you suggest another program? Anyway, any ideas? P.S: Sorry for my English :( -- Igor Vinokurov From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 00:49:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA20077 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 00:49:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cerberos.nswcc.org.au (cerberos.nswcc.org.au [203.9.71.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA20066 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 00:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by cerberos.nswcc.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA12090 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 17:49:27 +1000 Received: from pluto.nswcc.org.au(203.9.70.1) by cerberos.nswcc.org.au via smap (V1.3) id sma012086; Wed Jun 19 17:49:04 1996 Received: from mars.nswcc.org.au (mars.nswcc.org.au [203.9.68.103]) by moredun.nswcc.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA29050 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 17:49:02 +1000 Message-Id: <199606190749.RAA29050@moredun.nswcc.org.au> X-Sender: ericc@mail.nswcc.org.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 17:49:03 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Eric Chan Subject: Printing problem... Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have a problem on dealing with the printing which is the banner page goes at the last page. What para do I need to set on printcap file in order to get it fixed? Besides, what para is set to suppress the banner page? Thank you for your help Cheers Eric From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 01:33:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA23891 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 01:33:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from csd.cs.technion.ac.il (csd.cs.technion.ac.il [132.68.32.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA23880 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 01:33:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nadav@localhost) by csd.cs.technion.ac.il (8.6.11/8.6.10) id LAA22150; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 11:31:36 +0300 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 11:31:35 +0300 (IDT) From: Nadav Eiron X-Sender: nadav@csd To: Haytham Algyndy cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IDE CDROM configuration In-Reply-To: <199606181524.BAA17467@s4.elec.uq.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, Haytham Algyndy wrote: > Hi > > I'm a bit confused about configuring the CDROM. > The CDROM that I'm using is a Creative-Labs CD, > (It is detected by win95 as a Goldstar GCD-R542B) > Quad speed and is connected alone to the secondary IDE > port. The following lines are added to my kernel. > > options ATAPI > options "CD9660" > controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 vector wdintr > device wcd0 > > In the handbook, the wcd0 is referred to as controller rather than > device. > > I've tried compiling my kernel for each (controller & device) and I get > /dev/wcd0c device not configured > > message whenever I try to mount my CD in each situation. > The error you mentioned isn't the only one in the handbook... The handbook also says that make in the kernel build directory would place the new kernel in its place. Well, it doesn't (at least for me it didn't...). Just look in the kernel build directory, there should be a file named kernel there. Install it in your root directory (the instructions for doing that are in the book, in a section about restoring an old kernel or something...). You can also make sure that the kernel is the one you built by examining the modification date on /kernel, and by checking the name of the kernel (it is written out when the machine boots). Nadav From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 02:17:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA28299 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 02:17:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jparnas.cybercom.net ([205.198.82.58]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA28255; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 02:17:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([127.0.0.1]) by jparnas.cybercom.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id FAA02005; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 05:16:41 -0400 Message-Id: <199606190916.FAA02005@jparnas.cybercom.net> X-Authentication-Warning: jparnas.cybercom.net: Host [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: sos@freebsd.org cc: alex@fa.tdktca.com (Alex Nash), bmk@fta.com, Eloy.Paris@ven.ra.rockwell.com, questions@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org, hal@wwa.com X-External-Networks: yes Subject: Re: FreeBSD works with Cy486DLC processors? In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:45:57 +0200. <199606181145.NAA18166@ra.dkuug.dk> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 05:16:26 -0400 From: "Jacob M. Parnas" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199606181145.NAA18166@ra.dkuug.dk>you write: >In reply to Alex Nash who wrote: >> >> Brant M. Katkansky wrote: >> > >> > > I installed FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE a couple of weeks ago and since then I >> > > have been having programs exiting with signals 10 and 11, making my system >> > > too unstable to work as a dedicated e-mail server and as a PPP to Ethernet >> > > gateway. >> > >> > [snip] >> > >> > I had one given to me not too long ago. Mine is plagued with various >> > sig 10 and 11's, same as yours. >> > >> > Here's the interesting part - disabling the internal and external cache >> > makes the problem worse. >> >> This should be fairly easy to explain: You have bad SIMMs. While your >> program is running, erroneous results are returned from RAM and the >> processor tries to execute them. Your program subsequently seg faults >> due to an invalid instruction. If your cache works properly and your >> SIMMs don't, the cache can mitigate these effects since RAM accesses are >> less frequent (thus missing the odd inverted bit somewhere :) ). Disable >> the caches and now you will be much more likely to see a bad SIMM in action. >> > >Hmm, just to add another datapoint: >I can run 2.1 on my 486DLC board, but -current will panic within >2 minutes with a page fault or semilar. I have a very strong >feeling that our Cyrix/486DLC support leaves much to be desired, >as I can make the system run better (not error free) if I disable >the Cyrix code in locore.s. It seems that using the BIOS defaults >(both caches on) runs alot better than what we are trying to do >to it..... >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >Soren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team > So much code to hack -- so little time. > You might try reinserting the SIMMS. I remember that we bought tons of expansion SIMMs for hundreds of computers, and not once did an original or memory upgrade SIMM become defective even after years of use. Jacob From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 02:50:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA01504 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 02:50:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from m-net.arbornet.org ([206.84.193.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA01495 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 02:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (gsmalley@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.7.5/8.7-stock) id PAA11844 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:17:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Greg Smalley Message-Id: <199606181917.PAA11844@m-net.arbornet.org> Subject: Problems with installation To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 15:17:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk During the installion of FreeBSD my computer locked when the dialog message "Making a new root file system on /dev/rwd0a" came up... Could you please help me figure out whats wrong? Thanks Greg Smalley gsmalley@m-net.arbornet.org From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 02:52:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA01644 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 02:52:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA01634 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 02:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id MAA00332; Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:01:22 GMT Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:01:22 GMT Message-Id: <199606181201.MAA00332@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: Amooooo@aol.com CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <960617194837_219308939@emout09.mail.aol.com> (Amooooo@aol.com) Subject: Re: New Unix user Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > HI all as you probley can tell from my question Im a new FreeBSD user and > have a quick question. Which I have install FreeBSD and X and want to run X > but at login after typing root I get the following msg (Terminal type? > [cons25]) which does not accpect the startx command. Can any one tell me how > I run X . More haste, less speed! 8-) The system is asking you which kind of console you want to use in *terminal* mode (it does this because there are some people who don't like X or whose systems aren't powerful enough to run it). Just press the return key here and then it'll give you a command prompt at which you can then give commands. It'll then tell you off for logging in as root - usually you should log in, and do your work as, a "normal" user and use the 'su' command for the occasions when you have to do something that a normal user can't (or in X, keep an xterm open in which you have root privileges). If you find all this a bit annoying, you can run 'xdm' from /etc/rc.local, which will start the system up straight into X - but I'd recommend making sure you've got X set up properly first 8-) -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 02:51:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA01593 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 02:51:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA01473 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 02:50:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id AAA00949; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 00:16:39 GMT Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 00:16:39 GMT Message-Id: <199606190016.AAA00949@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: trig@netlink.co.uk CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (trig@netlink.co.uk) Subject: Re: Max first parameter of a Select call? Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > How do you get the 'select' call in FreeBSD to be happy with something > greater than 256 as a first parameter? The first argument to select() specifies the highest-numbered file descriptor you want select() to check, plus 1. For example, if you want select() to examine file descriptors 3, 7 and 14, you would have to pass 15 as the first argument. (A common error is to assume that the first argument is how many descriptors you want checked - it isn't!) > Anything above this seems to give a "Select error 22 - invalid argument" As the select() man page explains, things will not work properly if the first argument is greater than FD_SETSIZE, which is 256 by default. Hence the EINVAL error. In any case, the number of file descriptors a process can have open is limited by OPEN_MAX, which is 64 on FreeBSD:- $ cat temp.c #include #include int main() { printf("The size of the descriptor table is %d.\n", getdtablesize()); return 0; } $ gcc temp.c $ ./a.out The size of the descriptor table is 64. $ -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 03:22:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA03819 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 03:22:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgate.nation-net.com (www.nation-net.com [194.159.125.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA03814 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 03:22:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from w14.winecellar.co.uk (194.159.125.14) by mailgate.nation-net.com with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.0); Wed, 19 Jun 1996 11:24:06 +0000 Message-ID: <31C7D4B6.7AAA@nation-net.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 11:21:42 +0100 From: Paul Walsh Organization: Walsh Simmons X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Increasing a FIPSed partition Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've got freeBSD running in a partition created by FIPS. Is it possible to increase its size and then either create additional file systems in freeBSD or increase the size of /usr etc ? (without reinstalling !) Regards, Paul Walsh. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 05:03:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA09392 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 05:03:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gamma.qmw.ac.uk (gamma.qmw.ac.uk [138.37.6.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA09384 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 05:03:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from canary.dcs.qmw.ac.uk by gamma.qmw.ac.uk with SMTP-QMW with ESMTP; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:02:57 +0100 Received: from andromeda.dcs.qmw.ac.uk [138.37.89.2] by canary.dcs.qmw.ac.uk (8.7.5/QMW-server-2.8s+SMS) with SMTP; for ""; poster "Scott Mitchell "; id NAA03355; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:02:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost by ; id NAA06855; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:01:56 +0100 Message-Id: <199606191201.NAA06855@andromeda> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Linux emulation and ELF Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:01:55 +0100 From: Scott Mitchell Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, I'm sure this has been asked before, but I must have missed it. Is it possible to run Linux ELF binaries under the FreeBSD Linux emulation? If so, how much do I need to upgrade my 2.1R setup to make it work? Want to run the Java devkit, but it's all ELF. Thanks in advance, Scott =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell, CompSci Dept, Queen Mary & Westfield College, London, UK mailto:scott@dcs.qmw.ac.uk http://www.dcs.qmw.ac.uk/~scott finger scott@ruby.dcs.qmw.ac.uk for PGP public key From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 05:03:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA09416 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 05:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from garion.hq.ferg.com (pm1-16.wmbg.widomaker.com [204.17.220.116]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA09409 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 05:03:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.hq.ferg.com (localhost.hq.ferg.com [127.0.0.1]) by garion.hq.ferg.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA07130; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 08:03:30 -0400 Message-Id: <199606191203.IAA07130@garion.hq.ferg.com> X-Authentication-Warning: garion.hq.ferg.com: Host localhost.hq.ferg.com didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 5/3/96 From: Branson Matheson To: Eric Chan cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Printing problem... In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 Jun 1996 17:49:03 EDT." <199606190749.RAA29050@moredun.nswcc.org.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 08:03:29 -0400 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -------- Eric Chan uttered with conviction: >Hi, > > I have a problem on dealing with the printing which is the banner >page goes at the last page. What para do I need to s et on printcap file in >order to get it fixed? Besides, what para is set to suppress the banner page? > RTFM! man 5 printcap : hl bool false print the burst header page last sh bool false suppress printing of burst page header -branson ============================================================================= Branson Matheson | Ferguson Enterprises | If Pete and Repeat were System Administrator | W: (804) 874-7795 | sittin on a fence and Pete Unix, Perl, WWW | branson@widomaker.com | fell off, who is left? From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 05:27:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA10496 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 05:27:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell.monmouth.com (pechter@shell.monmouth.com [205.164.220.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA10491 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 05:27:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pechter@localhost) by shell.monmouth.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA24510; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 08:21:25 -0400 From: Bill/Carolyn Pechter Message-Id: <199606191221.IAA24510@shell.monmouth.com> Subject: Re: Primary or Logical Partition To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 08:21:25 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606190135.SAA11717@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at Jun 18, 96 06:35:39 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Can FreeBSD be installed on a Extended Logical Partition of a hard > > drive? It seems like when I use FreeBSD fdisk to create a partition, > > it automatically creates a primary partition. Is there a way to make > > it be a logical partition? Thank you very much! > > DOS can not boot an OS from an extended partition. > > There are some boot managers that can do this. I believe that the > one that comes with FreeBSD isn't one of them. > > If you have the OS/2 boot manager, you may be able to make this boot. > > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org > Nope, Terry... The OS/2 boot manager didn't help when I tried to do it here. Dos has to be primary (it's stupid), FreeBSD 2.1.0 has to be primary (I wish id didn't -- anyone know if the snaps require it?). OS/2 will work fine from a "logical" partiton. Bill ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Pechter/Carolyn Pechter | 17 Meredith Drive, Tinton Falls, NJ 07724, 908-389-3592 | pechter@shell.monmouth.com I'll run Win95 on my box when you pry the keyboard from my cold, dead hands. FreeBSD, OS/2, CP/M, RT11, spoken here. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 05:45:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA11252 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 05:45:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from enterprise ([194.198.197.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA11247 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 05:45:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from martin@localhost) by enterprise (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA01306; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 14:42:33 +0200 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 14:42:33 +0200 (MET DST) From: Martin Fredriksson X-Sender: martin@enterprise To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: FreeBSD/BIND integration? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Some questions regarding FreeBSD and BIND integration (I'm new to FreeBSD; I have searched the archives, hopefully well enough): (1) How often is BIND integrated into FreeBSD releases and snapshots? (2) How can I find out which version (4.x.y patch z) of BIND is currently integrated (I run 2.1R, and the version set in named (Version.c) is "LOCAL-951116.090057 Thu Nov 16 09:00:57 1995")? (3) Is there a technical description of how different "packages" (such as BIND) are integrated into FreeBSD? Or is this a case of "follow freebsd-hackers, study the source, and learn by yourself"? Note that I wouldn't complain about the latter, just want to save time by knowing what to expect. Any help and/or pointers appreciated! /// Martin F From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 05:57:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA11756 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 05:57:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from only.justcompute.com (only.justcompute.com [208.128.131.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA11749 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 05:57:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BBS.justcompute.com (bbs.justcompute.com [208.128.131.2]) by only.justcompute.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA01311 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 08:59:43 -0400 Message-Id: <199606191259.IAA01311@only.justcompute.com> Received: from [208.128.131.109] by BBS.justcompute.com id 47080.wrk; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 08:56:16 EDT From: "Chris Lavin" To: Subject: Si2 and 3 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 08:53:02 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1085 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk My system isn't recognizing com3 or 4 when it boots up it says it searches the ports but finds nuttin on 3 or 4 ttyd2 or 3..Any ideas as to why this may be? Thanx Chris From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 06:07:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA12372 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 06:07:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tad.cetlink.net (ns1.cetlink.net [206.31.104.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA12366 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 06:07:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jeff@localhost) by tad.cetlink.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) id JAA27015; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 09:07:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeffrey Wheat Message-Id: <199606191307.JAA27015@tad.cetlink.net> Subject: Re: Microsoft FrontPage Server Extensions for FreeBSD To: black@MR.Net (Ben Black) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 09:07:49 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606181739.MAA10869@galileo.mr.net> from "Ben Black" at Jun 18, 96 12:39:15 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Ben Black's email > > > > In reply to Stephen Hovey's email > > > Frontpage opens a great big hol in security. I wont touch it. > > > > Frontpage opens a big security hole if you do not follow the installation > > notes to the letter. > > > Actually, it does that no matter what. Read those directions carefully, then > rm the whole mess. If you could please elaborate on the security issues relating to the extensions I would be very interested in knowing more. Please reply directly to me if this is something that should not be posted publicly. For instance, if you can show me how to exploit these holes... My company has a relationship with the MS developers. I would be able to see how to solve these issues. Many thanks! Regards, Jeff From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 06:47:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA13975 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 06:47:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psa.pencom.com (psa.pencom.com [204.217.199.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA13968 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 06:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rkk@localhost) by psa.pencom.com (Hah!/nope) id IAA17521 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 08:47:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Randy Kirchhof Message-Id: <199606191347.IAA17521@psa.pencom.com> Subject: How to do partition map backups? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 08:47:18 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Folks - I've just discovered that a renegade 1542b has completely roached my master partition and label info, necessitating a reinstall. (No, I did not check to see if my fixit floppy was usable when created, thank you. And no, I did not have off line copies of my DOS aspi and cdrom drivers, thank you. This is one of those "no excuse, right in your face" bits of stupidity. :-) I am hoping that some of you may have the incantation to use w/ dd to properly backup an image of the master partition/labeling and boot block of a hard disk. I recall seeing this in many forums, but do not recall the size to back up. Once I reinstall, I do not intend for this to happen again. Also, I do not know where the freebsd-specific label info is kept. Is it within the partition slice or at the front of the disk? How big is the freebsd label info? To clarify, for example, if the partition is in the first 512 bytes of the hard drive, you need something like 'dd if=/dev/rsd0c bs=512 count=1 of=' or similar. To restore, you go the other direction. From the boot floppy that you created for the purpose and placed the image upon, of course... (re)Live and (re)Learn. Thanks for your help, r -- The trouble with the rat race is that even if you win, you're still a rat. -- Lily Tomlin ====================================================== _ Randy Kirchhof, Pencom Systems Administration Services _.| |_ Wk: rkk@psa.pencom.com Hm: rkk@kirchhof.com \. } Desk:512/343-1111 Fax:512/346-6444 512/259-7171 \_( From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 06:49:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA14104 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 06:49:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Kryten.nina.com (dyn049-gnv.51.fdt.net [205.229.51.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA14095 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 06:49:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from frankd@localhost) by Kryten.nina.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id JAA15622; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 09:43:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 09:43:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Frank Seltzer X-Sender: frankd@Kryten.nina.com To: Chris Lavin cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Si2 and 3 In-Reply-To: <199606191259.IAA01311@only.justcompute.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, Chris Lavin wrote: > My system isn't recognizing com3 or 4 when it boots up it says it searches > the ports but finds nuttin on 3 or 4 ttyd2 or 3..Any ideas as to why this > may be? > > > Thanx > Chris Maybe you don't have sio2 or sio3? If you do have 4 serial ports, look in your kernel config file for the addresses and IRQ's that the kernel is looking for. These do _not_ comply with what DOS looks for. DOS will allow com1 and com3 to share an IRQ as well as com2 and com4. In FBSD, all serial ports must have a unique IRQ. Frank -- Only in America can a homeless veteran sleep in a cardboard box while a draft dodger sleeps in the White House. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 06:52:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA14269 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 06:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from widomaker.com (root@wilma.widomaker.com [204.17.220.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA14257 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 06:52:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 128.155.21.102 by widomaker.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uWNg2-0000l6C; Wed, 19 Jun 96 09:52 EDT Message-ID: <31C8060F.5DE8@widomaker.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 09:52:15 -0400 From: Troy Landers X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.com CC: tdl@widomaker.com Subject: EIDE CDROM, Motherboard & USB questions... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, I am upgrading an old 386/33 system that is struggling to run FreeBSD now, to something that will perform respectably well. I have a few questions regarding the hardware I am about to purchase. ( I posted the first question earlier this week but was not subscribed to the freebsd-questions mailing list. :( Please if you responded to the earlier queston could you Email me a copy directly, I missed any responses, Thanks! -Troy- [ tdl@widomaker.com ] ) 1)... I am about to purchase an IDE 8x CDROM drive. I have some concerns using it with FreeBSD, any help would be greatly appreciated. I am trying to avoid the additional cost of a SCSI version of the same drive and that of a SCSI controller card, at the same time I don't want to spend less money on something that is known _not_ to work. Is anyone using an E-IDE 8x CDROM with FreeBSD?, if so what brand? Had any problems? I have seen statements such as "All non-SCSI cards are known to be extremely slow compared to SCSI drives.", does this include the EIDE controller built into most new motherboards? & is this still true? is there nothing I can do to get the performance I should expect? Also is the statement "ATAPI compatible IDE CD-ROMs (should be considered experimental)", still true? I thought I saw something about a new driver or something that integrates IDE CDROM's with FreeBSD or did I mis-understand something? 2)... I am also about to purchase a Tyan Tomcat II motherboard and run FreeBSD on it. If anyone out there has one of these have you had any problems? I plan to run with only one CPU at first, cost constraints, you know :( , it has been mentioned to me that these dual CPU boards might use two different CPU's, a master and a slave, I have not found anything that says the two CPU's are different, can anyone shed some light on this? and to both CPU's have to be the same speed? 3)... Also, is there FreeBSD support for the Universal Serial Bus (USB), or are there plans to support USB? I am trying to decide if I should wait on the new version, the Tyan Tomcat II+ that will have USB built in. Any feedback will be appreciated! Thanks in advance, -Troy- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Troy D. Landes Email: tdl@widomaker.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 08:17:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA18923 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 08:17:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from net1.netview.net ([199.3.74.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA18918 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 08:17:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from corona (corona.netview.net [206.223.98.2]) by net1.netview.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA00196 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:17:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:17:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960619101854.0091ae24@netview.net> X-Sender: jrclark@netview.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: John Clark Subject: arpresolve: can't allocate llinfo Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I just made the switch from FreeBSD 2.1 to FreeBSD 2.1-stable. I have configured a new kernel to be identical to the old configuration file. The only difference that I see is the "controller eisa0" line (I commented it out as I have no EISA bus). Now when I boot, the networking is down, and the following message is printed hundreds of times: arpresolve: can't allocate llinfo for 199.3.74.1 (199.3.74.1 is my gateway) Fortunately, the previous kernel is enough the keep the box operational. Anyone else run into this problem? John Clark [jrclark@netview.net] From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 08:56:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA22186 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 08:56:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA22179 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 08:56:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.2]) by ref.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA11247 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 08:56:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-11.ime.net [206.231.149.20]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA01575; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 11:47:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31C8214B.49A6@ime.net> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 11:48:27 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brandon Gillespie CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Windows 95 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Brandon Gillespie wrote: > > > I can say one thing: AAARRRRGGGH!!!!! > > (You spend $1500 on a computer, it would be nice if it worked like you > wanted it to :( > Computers can only do what they are told to do! (excluding equip failure/flaws) Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 09:07:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA23223 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 09:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tombstone.sunrem.com (tombstone.sunrem.com [206.81.134.54]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA23216 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 09:07:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brandon@localhost) by tombstone.sunrem.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA04581; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:07:42 -0600 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:07:41 -0600 (MDT) From: Brandon Gillespie cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Windows 95 In-Reply-To: <31C8214B.49A6@ime.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, Gary Chrysler wrote: > Brandon Gillespie wrote: > > > > > > > I can say one thing: AAARRRRGGGH!!!!! > > > > (You spend $1500 on a computer, it would be nice if it worked like you > > wanted it to :( > > Computers can only do what they are told to do! Exactly, and who knows what Microsoft (Win95) is telling it to do ;) From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 09:46:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA28493 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 09:46:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA28478 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 09:46:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crevenia.parc.xerox.com ([13.2.116.11]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <15145(11)>; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 09:46:20 PDT Received: by crevenia.parc.xerox.com id <177476>; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 09:46:14 -0700 From: Bill Fenner To: jrclark@netview.net, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: arpresolve: can't allocate llinfo Message-Id: <96Jun19.094614pdt.177476@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 09:46:12 PDT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk What does your routing table look like ("netstat -nr") when this happens? Are you running a routing daemon or adding static routes on startup? Thanks, Bill From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 09:53:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA29307 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 09:53:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cats.ucsc.edu (root@cats-po-1.UCSC.EDU [128.114.129.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA29300 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 09:53:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scruz.ucsc.edu by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id JAA08792; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 09:53:11 -0700 Received: from osprey by scruz.ucsc.edu id aa12225; 19 Jun 96 9:24 PDT Received: (from markd@localhost) by Grizzly.COM (8.6.12/8.6.9) id HAA09375; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 07:34:30 -0700 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 07:34:30 -0700 Message-Id: <199606191434.HAA09375@Grizzly.COM> From: Mark Diekhans To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Local nameserver with a part-time ppp connection? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know if its possible to run a local name server with a part-time ppp connection to the rest of the world? Even with sendmail just queuing mail, its still tries to talk to the nameserver to verify mail address. Causing it to wait for the local named to time out trying to connect to the internet servers. TIA -- == Mark Diekhans == From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 10:32:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA03203 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:32:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA03120 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:31:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA13209; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:29:26 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606191729.KAA13209@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Problems with installation To: gsmalley@m-net.arbornet.org (Greg Smalley) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:29:25 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606181917.PAA11844@m-net.arbornet.org> from "Greg Smalley" at Jun 18, 96 03:17:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > During the installion of FreeBSD my computer locked when the dialog > message "Making a new root file system on /dev/rwd0a" came up... > Could you please help me figure out whats wrong? What does it say when you hit "alt-F2"? Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 10:35:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA03605 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:35:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA03596 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA13235; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:33:15 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606191733.KAA13235@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: PS/Valuepoint and keyboard hang on install To: aarond@btc.adaptec.com (Aaron Dailey) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:33:15 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606190337.VAA27603@btc.btc.adaptec.com> from "Aaron Dailey" at Jun 18, 96 09:26:29 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > My experience is that every key does nothing past a certain point. > I tried bouncing the num lock key during boot up - right after the > uncompressing kernel message the num lock light stops toggling, and > other keys don't work. [ VALUABLE CLUE ] Disable the internal and external caches on your machine; this is probably only necessary for the actual install. If you have only 4M of memory, borrw another 1M for the install, or grab one of the more recent "SNAP" releases from the FTP site; there should be a 4M boot disk in one of the SNAP directories. There is the possibility of a cache interaction with the ramdisk image decompression, and there is also the possibility that you just ran out of RAM and it hung. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 10:44:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA04415 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:44:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from garion.hq.ferg.com (pm1-23.wmbg.widomaker.com [204.17.220.123]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA04398 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:44:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.hq.ferg.com (localhost.hq.ferg.com [127.0.0.1]) by garion.hq.ferg.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA05608; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:44:19 -0400 Message-Id: <199606191744.NAA05608@garion.hq.ferg.com> X-Authentication-Warning: garion.hq.ferg.com: Host localhost.hq.ferg.com didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 5/3/96 From: Branson Matheson To: Mark Diekhans cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Local nameserver with a part-time ppp connection? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 Jun 1996 07:34:30 PDT." <199606191434.HAA09375@Grizzly.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:44:19 -0400 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -------- Mark Diekhans uttered with conviction: > > > Does anyone know if its possible to run a local name server with a > part-time ppp connection to the rest of the world? > > Even with sendmail just queuing mail, its still tries to talk to the > nameserver to verify mail address. Causing it to wait for the l > ocal named to time out trying to connect to the internet servers. Yes.. what I have done here is this.... We have an internal Nameserver that handles all the dns traffic for internal ( off the internet ) machines. I also have my machine. I have configured my machine as a secondary nameserver but I have added a 'forwarders' line to the bottom that will attempt to check for the name outside the internal network. My machine is the one with the temporary connection to the internet. This allows me to have two lines in /etc/resolv.conf, with my machine as the first and the internal dns server as the second. It also allows me to have dnslookups that do not timeout when the connection is down. I am sure that there are better ways to do this... but this was my solution. -branson From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 10:50:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA05260 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:50:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA05253 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:50:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id KAA08827 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:50:09 -0700 Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA13283; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:46:01 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606191746.KAA13283@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Linux emulation and ELF To: scott@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Scott Mitchell) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:46:01 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199606191201.NAA06855@andromeda> from "Scott Mitchell" at Jun 19, 96 01:01:55 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm sure this has been asked before, but I must have missed it. Is it > possible to run Linux ELF binaries under the FreeBSD Linux emulation? If > so, how much do I need to upgrade my 2.1R setup to make it work? Want to > run the Java devkit, but it's all ELF. Running Linux ELF binaries requires at least -stable, if not actually -current. The Linux emulation in the 2.1R is for Linux a.out binaries only. There is a JDK "port" for regular FreeBSD-current. It requires (I believe) Netscape b2 (the current version of Netscape is b4). I believe the JDK uses shared context variables across applets, which is a huge security hole. I don't know how the JDK can run in a fixed implementation, without changes. I suspect there will need to be a definition of an authenticated IPC mechanism some time soon for the bugfixed versions. Otherwise, run a non-bugfixed version (like b2), but don't go out on the net with it. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 10:51:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA05369 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:51:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA05364 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:51:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA13293; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:48:26 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606191748.KAA13293@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Primary or Logical Partition To: pechter@shell.monmouth.com (Bill/Carolyn Pechter) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:48:25 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199606191221.IAA24510@shell.monmouth.com> from "Bill/Carolyn Pechter" at Jun 19, 96 08:21:25 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Nope, Terry... The OS/2 boot manager didn't help when I tried to > do it here. Dos has to be primary (it's stupid), FreeBSD 2.1.0 has to be > primary (I wish id didn't -- anyone know if the snaps require it?). > > OS/2 will work fine from a "logical" partiton. You have 3 primaries, at least, and one more primary, or it is used for a DOS extended partition. DOS fdsik limits you to creating two "primary" paritions for DOS: a DOS primary, and a DOS extended. The BSD partition can be in it's own primary without trouble. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 10:57:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA06085 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:57:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA06080 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:57:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by ref.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA12609 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA06545; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 11:51:07 -0600 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 11:51:07 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199606191751.LAA06545@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: Terry Lambert Cc: aarond@btc.adaptec.com (Aaron Dailey), questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PS/Valuepoint and keyboard hang on install In-Reply-To: <199606191733.KAA13235@phaeton.artisoft.com> References: <199606190337.VAA27603@btc.btc.adaptec.com> <199606191733.KAA13235@phaeton.artisoft.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > My experience is that every key does nothing past a certain point. > > I tried bouncing the num lock key during boot up - right after the > > uncompressing kernel message the num lock light stops toggling, and > > other keys don't work. > > [ VALUABLE CLUE ] > > Disable the internal and external caches on your machine; this is > probably only necessary for the actual install. Umm, this is 'expected' behavior for at least part of the probe when everything is being reset. However, the num-lock should 'start' working soon after (10-15 seconds at the most). Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 10:52:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA05455 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:52:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from opus.autoroute.net (root@opus.autoroute.net [204.101.128.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA05412 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:51:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from V34-105.Montreal.autoroute.net (V34-105.Montreal.autoroute.net [204.101.128.105]) by opus.autoroute.net (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id NAA26609 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:51:48 -0400 Message-ID: <31C868B3.1E09@autoroute.net> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:53:07 -0700 From: Mike Knopfler Organization: ComPlex Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: wd8003e X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org//mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk where can i get the software to run these cards under Windows NT 3.51 or can I ????? thanks -- http://www.complast.com OR http://www.autoroute.net/~complex E-Mail info@complast.com OR complex@autoroute.net From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 11:01:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA06327 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 11:01:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hammurabi.nh.ultra.net (hammurabi.nh.ultra.net [205.162.79.24]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA06322 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 11:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from larry ([192.32.36.129]) by hammurabi.nh.ultra.net (8.7.4/dae0.6) with SMTP id OAA05150 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 14:01:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31C80975.41C67EA6@qosnet.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 14:06:45 +0000 From: Michael Saal X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b3 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: ?: allocating physical memory for a driver Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am writing a driver for a bus mastering ISA card. How do I allocate physical memory and make sure that is located below the 16M boundry addressable by the ISA bus? Is malloc("memory size", M_DEVBUF, M_NOWAIT) sufficient? If it is I don't see how you can make sure the memory is in the right range with out testing the resulting pointer. Thanks, Mike Saal From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 11:09:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA06758 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 11:09:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from net1.netview.net ([199.3.74.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA06749 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 11:09:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from corona (jrclark@indy2.indy.net [199.3.65.7]) by net1.netview.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA01199 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:08:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:08:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960619131017.00939a4c@netview.net> X-Sender: jrclark@netview.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: John Clark Subject: 430 out of 448 instructions used Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I am not familiar enough with the c compiler to know what the following message means: cc -Wall -o aic7xxx_asm ../../dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx_asm.c ./aic7xxx_asm -o aic7xxx_seq.h ../../dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx.seq 430 out of 448 instructions used. It would seem that I want all 448 functions, but then again, I have no idea what this is trying to tell me. Anyway, any information on the above (error-looking) message would be appreciated. John Clark [jrclark@netview.net] From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 12:24:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA10830 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 12:24:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stormbringer.netural.com (root@stormbringer.NETural.com [206.54.248.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA10825 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 12:24:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (thekind@localhost) by stormbringer.netural.com (NETural/Rocks) with SMTP id OAA00722 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 14:24:53 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: stormbringer.netural.com: thekind owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 14:24:53 -0500 (CDT) From: "Adam W. Dace" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD PCMCIA Discussion List? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Just thought I'd throw this out. Because I'm so sick of Linux, I'm "alphatesting" (read: trying to hack up to work) the pccard package and am wondering if there are others like me. Is there a mailing list setup for this? Should there be? Otherwise, shall I spam this list with my ultra-mega-spam output? Thoughts from a guy, | Adam W. Dace | "When the going gets weird, the weird | | Webmaster, NETural Communications | turn pro." -- Hunter S. Thompson | | Work: | Home: | From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 12:31:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA11167 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 12:31:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home.winc.com (root@home.winc.com [204.178.182.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA11162 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 12:31:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phoenix.aristar.com (slip125.winc.com [204.178.182.125]) by home.winc.com (8.7.1/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA19863 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 15:31:35 -0400 Message-ID: <31C85588.41C67EA6@aristar.com> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 15:31:20 -0400 From: "Matthew A. Gessner" Organization: Aristar, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: true type fonts and/or deskjet 500 soft fonts X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm looking for information on software that might let me use Windows TrueType fonts on my FreeBSD system. I have a DeskJet 500 attached, and the built in fonts leave a bit to be desired. If you could point me to some resources, I'd be grateful. Thanks, Matt Gessner, From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 12:31:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA11188 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 12:31:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA11183 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 12:31:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-16.ime.net [206.231.149.25]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA11491 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 15:31:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31C855C3.4CFE@ime.net> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 15:32:20 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Broken Apache man page help needed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, I installed apache from sysinstall when I installed 2.1r. I haven't needed to read the man page untill recently. To many other toys.. :) man apache, returns an unformated page of giberish! I went on a search for the apache man page and the only place I find anything close is in /use/share/cat1 apache.1.gz Is there a problem with this page? What are the cat directories? How can I remedy this malfunction. Thanks all. Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 12:45:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA11917 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 12:45:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA11912 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 12:45:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA07360; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:45:45 -0600 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:45:45 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199606191945.NAA07360@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: "Adam W. Dace" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD PCMCIA Discussion List? In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm "alphatesting" (read: trying to hack up to work) the pccard > package and am wondering if there are others like me. Yep. > Is there a mailing list setup for this? Should there be? Otherwise, > shall I spam this list with my ultra-mega-spam output? FreeBSD-mobile@freeBSD.org. But, it's *real* quiet because I spend all my time flaming everyone in current and no-one else has time to test out the -current code. nate From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 13:05:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA13073 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:05:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iworks.InterWorks.org (deischen@iworks.interworks.org [128.255.18.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA13059 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:04:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by iworks.InterWorks.org (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA04149; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 15:00:51 -0500 Message-Id: <9606192000.AA04149@iworks.InterWorks.org> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 15:00:51 -0500 From: "Daniel M. Eischen" To: jrclark@netview.net, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 430 out of 448 instructions used Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hello, I am not familiar enough with the c compiler to know what the > following message means: > > cc -Wall -o aic7xxx_asm ../../dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx_asm.c > ./aic7xxx_asm -o aic7xxx_seq.h ../../dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx.seq > 430 out of 448 instructions used. > > It would seem that I want all 448 functions, but then again, I have no idea > what this is trying to tell me. The "cc" and "./aic7xxx_asm" lines above are separate commands, not a continued line from the "cc" command. The first line compiles the aic7xxx "assembler"; this is the program that compiles/assembles the code for the sequencer on the Adaptec aic7xxx adapters. The second line actually runs the assembler, using aic7xxx.seq as the input file, and producing aic7xxx_seq.h which contains the code to be downloaded to the sequencer. The "430 out of 448..." line is an informational message that tells you 430 instruction words were formed; the aic7xxx sequencers can store up to 448 instructions. You can disregard this message (unless it uses more than 448 instructions!). Dan Eischen deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 13:40:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA18302 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:40:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA17617 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:37:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id TAA27599; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 19:09:45 GMT Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 19:09:45 GMT Message-Id: <199606191909.TAA27599@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: paul@nation-net.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <31C7D4B6.7AAA@nation-net.com> (message from Paul Walsh on Wed, 19 Jun 1996 11:21:42 +0100) Subject: Re: Increasing a FIPSed partition Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I've got freeBSD running in a partition created by FIPS. Is it possible > to increase its size Not without backing up and re-installing... > and then either create additional file systems in > freeBSD or increase the size of /usr etc ? > > (without reinstalling !) ...but you could create another partition and mount, say, /usr/src or /usr/local on it. eg if you have a 1GB IDE disk with a 430MB DOS partition you no longer want and a 570MB FreeBSD partition which is getting rather tight, you could use get rid of the DOS partition, put a FreeBSD partition where it used to be, move all your files from /usr/local onto it and add a line to /etc/fstab like /dev/wd0s1 /usr/local ufs rw 1 2 and you now have 430MB of extra space in /usr! (Warning:- the fstab entry is very dependent on what kind of disk you have and what partitions are on it. Don't copy the one above blindly). -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 13:42:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA18647 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA18557 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:41:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id SAA27579; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 18:52:27 GMT Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 18:52:27 GMT Message-Id: <199606191852.SAA27579@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: martin@msp.se CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Martin Fredriksson on Wed, 19 Jun 1996 14:42:33 +0200 (MET DST)) Subject: Re: FreeBSD/BIND integration? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > (3) Is there a technical description of how different "packages" (such as > BIND) are integrated into FreeBSD? Or is this a case of "follow > freebsd-hackers, study the source, and learn by yourself"? Note that I > wouldn't complain about the latter, just want to save time by knowing what to > expect. Basically, yes, although I'm sure it would be well received if someone were to write it up and submit it to the documentation team. 8-) Generally, "packages" (I'm sure there's a better word but I can't think of it now) get added or updated if there's some new functionality or bug-fix that's needed, or even just because the existing one was looking rather stale. FreeBSD is generally rather conservative about this and things aren't added or upgraded unless they've been around for a while and the bugs have been eliminated (or at least identified and worked round). Actually integrating the code requires getting it to compile and work under FreeBSD, obviously, but it also has to fit smoothly into the FreeBSD way of doing things. This can mean anything from editing an install target (so that the various parts go in the "right" places) to having to completely re-write all the makefiles in a package to get them to work at all with Berkeley make. One of the best things about FreeBSD is that you can re-compile the whole system just by typing 'make world', but an awful lot of blood, sweat and tears went into getting it that way (particularly for things like the GNU programs which were designed with a quite different paradigm in mind). BTW if you're interested in this kind of thing, freebsd-current is worth keeping an eye on as well. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 13:42:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA18684 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:42:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA18648 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id LAA13146; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 11:52:38 GMT Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 11:52:38 GMT Message-Id: <199606191152.LAA13146@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: igor@cs.ibank.ru CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199606190732.LAA05837@escape.cs.ibank.ru> (message from Igor Vinokurov on Wed, 19 Jun 1996 11:32:28 +0400 (MSD)) Subject: Re: /usr/bin/chat don't work? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Igor Vinokurov writes: > > Hello, > I have problem :) > > Under 2.1R I use slattach with /usr/bin/chat as modem dialer (which > send to modem ATZ/ATDT/etc) and enjoying... But I install new 960606 > SNAP and chat does't work :( > > Any changes in kernel/etc? Can I continue use chat for this task or > you suggest another program? Anyway, any ideas? Chat doesn't support the -l option any more. When I upgraded to -current, I got it working by removing that bit from my dialler script. before:- if /usr/bin/chat -l LCK..$DEVICE ABORT "NO CARRIER" [...] after:- if /usr/bin/chat ABORT "NO CARRIER" [...] -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 13:50:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA20202 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:50:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA19107 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:44:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id OAA20866; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 14:12:12 GMT Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 14:12:12 GMT Message-Id: <199606191412.OAA20866@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: trig@netlink.co.uk CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (trig@netlink.co.uk) Subject: Re: Max first parameter of a Select call? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I wrote:- > In any case, the number of file descriptors a process can have open is > limited by OPEN_MAX, which is 64 on FreeBSD:- Sorry folks, that was complete Horlicks:- $ cat temp.c #include #include main() { int i = 1; for (;;) { if (dup(0) < 0) { printf("dup failed with i = %d\n", i); perror("dup"); break; } i++; } return 0; } $ gcc temp.c $ ulimit -n 64 $ ./a.out dup failed with i = 61 dup: Too many open files $ ulimit -n unlimited $ ulimit -n 360 $ ./a.out dup failed with i = 357 dup: Too many open files $ Next time, I'll try to look at the shell limits *before* posting 8-( -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 13:56:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA21557 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:56:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rk.ios.com (rk.ios.com [198.4.75.55]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA21463; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:56:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rashid@localhost) by rk.ios.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA18585; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 16:55:41 -0400 From: Rashid Karimov Message-Id: <199606192055.QAA18585@rk.ios.com> Subject: CCD related question. To: asami@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 16:55:41 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there Satoshi, I have ccd installation here , which is based on ccd v.1.7 of 01-96. Now I want to upgrade the machine to the 2.2-960612-SNAP , whih carries ccd as pseudo-device. The ccd version in this SNAP is 1.13. Is it possible to use old ccd drive with this release ? Will system recognize it or I have to "newfs" ccd drives ? The machine serves Usenet news and I can't afford to loose whole news partition :( Is it possible to install ccd v 1.7 in 2.2-960612-SNAP ? ( w/o activating pseudo-driver one)? Rashid. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 14:18:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA23614 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 14:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mars.csg.peachnet.edu (mars.CSG.PeachNet.EDU [168.26.193.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA23600 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 14:18:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.csg.peachnet.edu (mercury.CSG.PeachNet.EDU [168.26.193.32]) by mars.csg.peachnet.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA09976 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 17:07:45 -0400 Received: from CCMAIN/SpoolDir by mercury.csg.peachnet.edu (Mercury 1.21); 19 Jun 96 17:20:03 EST Received: from SpoolDir by CCMAIN (Mercury 1.21); 19 Jun 96 17:19:47 EST From: "Christian" Organization: Columbus College, Columbus, GA To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 17:19:39 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Disklabel problems, trying to add a second scsi disk Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.31 Message-ID: <6E7E591A90@mercury.csg.peachnet.edu> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have been trying to install a second scsi disk on my system using the instructions found in the disks.ps file found on freefall.freebsd.org/incoming. The instructions say to write a disklabel using a prototype file with the following command: disklabel -R -r sd1 diskproto I did this and got an error message saying: "write: Read-only file system" I figured that the disklabel was set to read-only so I executed this command, which according to the man pages will make the disklabel writable: "disklabel -W sd1" after doing this I tried writing the label again as I described above, but it still did not work, and I got the same error message. Can somebody please help me? Thanks in advance, C.P. ____________ Christian Plazas Columbus College, Columbus,GA 706.568.2063 ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 14:29:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA24525 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 14:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cais.cais.com (cais.com [199.0.216.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA24519 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 14:29:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 204.157.31.49 (babel.cais.com [204.157.31.49]) by cais.cais.com (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA04470; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 17:28:54 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 17:28:54 -0400 Message-Id: <199606192128.RAA04470@cais.cais.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: babel@cais.cais.com Subject: ft backup To: questions@FreeBSD.org Cc: babel@cais.com X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.14 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Have almost the entire freeBSD collection installed and working. Need a way to back it up in case of a CRASH. Used your ft driver for QIC80 tape drives. Seems to work ok basically. Can not get it to back up/restore recessively, will not archive to the sub directory level. Is the ft function supposed to backup/restore sub-directories also ? If so, the command to do this is not in the rt or tar man pages. If rt will not back up recursively what other QIC80 program to you have a port for ? I own a copy of the Jumbo 250 QIC80 driver software but is in SCO UNIX code. Any way to install and use this for freeBSD OS? From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 15:06:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA27759 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 15:06:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from washington.xtn.net (washington.xtn.net [205.138.53.89]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA27743 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 15:06:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from user.xtc.net (ppp12.washington.xtn.net [205.138.53.32]) by washington.xtn.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA31382 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 18:16:38 -0400 Message-ID: <31C88833.33AA@washington.xtn.net> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 18:07:31 -0500 From: DAMAN Organization: Washington County Online X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01KIT (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: how to unzip gzip'd files X-URL: http://freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk all the ports you have are gzip'd what file do i need to uzip them. and where can i get it from -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DON'T FORGET TO VISIT WARPED REALITY http://washington.xtn.net/~sbakshi/poopoo.htm <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 15:08:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA28025 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 15:08:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haven.uchicago.edu (root@haven.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA28012 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 15:08:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from meno.uchicago.edu (meno.uchicago.edu [128.135.21.34]) by haven.uchicago.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA02437; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 17:07:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from meno.uchicago.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by meno.uchicago.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA23792; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 17:10:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199606192210.RAA23792@meno.uchicago.edu> To: terry@lambert.org cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: JDK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <23788.835222247.1@meno.uchicago.edu> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 17:10:48 -0500 From: steve farrell Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm sure this has been asked before, but I must have missed it. Is it > possible to run Linux ELF binaries under the FreeBSD Linux emulation? If > so, how much do I need to upgrade my 2.1R setup to make it work? Want to > run the Java devkit, but it's all ELF. [clip] >Otherwise, run a non-bugfixed version (like b2), but don't go out on >the net with it. --i see -- i guess i didn't read very carefully. so what's the story with this (clip from alta-vista): JDK 1.0 port to FreeBSD JDK 1.0 port to FreeBSD. Announce. I have ports of the JDK 1.0 using Green threads, pthreads, and uthreads. This port I'm releasing uses Green threads and... http://toody.sicc.co.kr/~sjwhang/java/fbsdjdk1.htm - but when i look around at this guy's site, i see a bunch of good references, but no JDK for FreeBSD -- what happened there? also, what exactly is the status of running JDK for linux on FreeBSD. does it happen with -current? finally =), how about WordPerfect/Linux on FreeBSD, is that working yet? (maybe i'll check out -emulation and see if i might be helpful there, seeing as i do have a copy of it.) --thanks, steve farrell From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 15:32:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA29893 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 15:32:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA29888 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 15:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA14356; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 15:29:38 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606192229.PAA14356@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: JDK To: spfarrel@midway.uchicago.edu (steve farrell) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 15:29:37 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199606192210.RAA23792@meno.uchicago.edu> from "steve farrell" at Jun 19, 96 05:10:48 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I'm sure this has been asked before, but I must have missed it. Is it > > possible to run Linux ELF binaries under the FreeBSD Linux emulation? If > > so, how much do I need to upgrade my 2.1R setup to make it work? Want to > > run the Java devkit, but it's all ELF. > > [clip] > > >Otherwise, run a non-bugfixed version (like b2), but don't go out on > >the net with it. > > --i see -- i guess i didn't read very carefully. 8-). It's not something you wanted to read. 8-). > so what's the story with this (clip from alta-vista): > > JDK 1.0 port to FreeBSD > JDK 1.0 port to FreeBSD. Announce. I have ports of the JDK 1.0 using Green threads, pthreads, and > uthreads. This port I'm releasing uses Green threads and... > http://toody.sicc.co.kr/~sjwhang/java/fbsdjdk1.htm - I saw that as well; it was my impression that this was what was in "ports" on -current. > but when i look around at this guy's site, i see a bunch of good > references, but no JDK for FreeBSD -- what happened there? If it's not the "ports" version, you should contact him. You may also want to search out Amancio Hasty (sorry, no email address off the top of my head), which is known to be running JDK on FreeBSD. > also, what exactly is the status of running JDK for linux on FreeBSD. > does it happen with -current? I know there was an announcement on -hackers that someone was doing this on FreeBSD-current, but since there were three announcements on running it "native" on FreeBSD using the BSDI binary, I didn't pay much attention to it. > finally =), how about WordPerfect/Linux on FreeBSD, is that working > yet? (maybe i'll check out -emulation and see if i might be helpful > there, seeing as i do have a copy of it.) Try mailing sef@freebsd.org. I don't know about WordPerfect. I know the static version for SCO worked for me a while back. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 15:35:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA29995 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 15:35:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emh.kadena.af.mil (emh.kadena.af.mil [132.15.128.128]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA29989 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 15:35:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from luttgenj.kadena.af.mil by emh.kadena.af.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24177; Thu, 20 Jun 96 07:34:34 JST Message-Id: <31C88079.99B@emh.kadena.af.mil> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 07:34:33 +0900 From: "A1C Jason T. Luttgens" Reply-To: luttgenj@emh.kadena.af.mil Organization: USAF X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Can't see SCSI Adapter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've been trying to get to recognize an AIC-7870(PCI SCSI adapter which is on the supported hardware list), with no luck. There is a flag field for loading the driver (can be set when doing the boot -c), but I'm not sure what to put in it. Can anyone help ? Thanks ahead of time...... Jason T. Luttgens From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 15:44:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA00566 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 15:44:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from battra.telebase.com (root@battra.telebase.com [192.132.57.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00558 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 15:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wormhole.telebase.com by battra.telebase.com id SAA14217; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 18:43:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from odo.telebase.com (root@odo.telebase.com [172.16.2.217]) by wormhole.telebase.com (8.7.4/8.6.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA23693; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 18:43:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bmc@localhost) by odo.telebase.com (8.7.5/8.6.9.1) id SAA00572; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 18:43:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 18:43:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199606192243.SAA00572@telebase.com.> From: Brian Clapper To: Gary Chrysler Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Broken Apache man page help needed In-Reply-To: <72365232@toto.iv> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Gary" == Gary Chrysler writes: Gary> Hi all, I installed apache from sysinstall when I installed Gary> 2.1r. Gary> I haven't needed to read the man page untill recently. Gary> To many other toys.. :) Gary> man apache, returns an unformated page of giberish! Gary> I went on a search for the apache man page and the only place Gary> I find anything close is in /use/share/cat1 apache.1.gz Gary> Is there a problem with this page? Gary> What are the cat directories? Gary> How can I remedy this malfunction. Actually, your best bet for Apache docs is the Apache web site. http://www.apache.org/ ---- Brian Clapper .............................................. bmc@telebase.com http://www.netaxs.com/~bmc/ ............. PGP public key available on request Each honest calling, each walk of life, has its own elite, its own aristocracy based on excellence of performance. -- James Bryant Conant From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 16:22:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA02091 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 16:22:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Rigel.orionsys.com (root@rigel.orionsys.com [205.148.224.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA02085 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 16:22:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dbabler@localhost) by Rigel.orionsys.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id QAA01000; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 16:22:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 16:22:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Babler To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: tcpdump / trafshow / ifconfig problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Never a good deed that goes unpunished... I just tried to run the port trafshow but when I do, it says: trafshow: BIOCSETIF: ix0: Device not configured Tcpdump also says: tcpdump: ix0: Device not configured Which surprises me because the network has been working since I installed 2.0.5 (now running 2.1-stable). Netstat -i says: Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll lp0* 1500 0 0 0 0 0 ix0 1500 00.aa.00.36.67.74 3475 0 2529 0 0 ix0 1500 205.148.224 rigel 3475 0 2529 0 0 lo0 16384 613 0 613 0 0 lo0 16384 your-net localhost 613 0 613 0 0 sl0* 552 0 0 0 0 0 tun0* 1500 0 0 0 0 0 ..and ifconfig -a says: lp0: flags=8810 mtu 1500 ix0: flags=63 mtu 1500 inet 205.148.224.9 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 205.148.224.255 lo0: flags=8009 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552 tun0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 ...and before I tried to use any of this, I changed the kernel to add the packet filter pseudo-device: ---- [ ... ] pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device log pseudo-device sl 1 pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's pseudo-device speaker pseudo-device bpfilter 4 ---- Is this the driver's gentle way of telling me it can't be placed into promiscuous mode? (I've also tried trafshow -p) -Dave From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 16:22:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA02113 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 16:22:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mh004.infi.net (mailhost.infi.net [205.219.238.95]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA02108 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 16:22:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Default by mh004.infi.net with SMTP (Infinet-S-3.3) id TAA18178; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 19:22:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 19:22:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199606192322.TAA18178@mh004.infi.net> X-Sender: carrkeys@annap.infi.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: "Randal L. Carr" Subject: Installation Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am attempting an installation using an MS-DOS partition. Everything works fine until the final steps when I get an error that reads "cannot locate root image, please fix this problem and try again". Any idea why this error occurs. I have the files in a directory like this: c:\FreeBSD\ \bin \des \dict \floppies \games etc, etc... I am trying to install to D: The boot manager works fine, F1 for DOS, F5 for disk 2 thank you.... From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 16:33:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA02457 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 16:33:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA02452 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 16:33:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA14478; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 16:30:37 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606192330.QAA14478@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: ?: allocating physical memory for a driver To: msaal@qosnet.com (Michael Saal) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 16:30:36 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <31C80975.41C67EA6@qosnet.com> from "Michael Saal" at Jun 19, 96 02:06:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I am writing a driver for a bus mastering ISA card. > > How do I allocate physical memory and make sure that is located below > the 16M boundry addressable by the ISA bus? > > Is malloc("memory size", M_DEVBUF, M_NOWAIT) sufficient? If it is I > don't see how you can make sure the memory is in the right range with > out testing the resulting pointer. Look at the DMA stuff in (for instance) the aha1542 driver; it's pretty straight-forward. If you use the standard routines, bouncing will be done for you. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 17:05:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA03690 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 17:05:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA03679; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 17:05:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199606200005.RAA03679@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD PCMCIA Discussion List? To: thekind@NETural.com (Adam W. Dace) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 17:05:16 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Adam W. Dace" at Jun 19, 96 02:24:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Adam W. Dace wrote: > > Because I'm so sick of Linux, I'm "alphatesting" (read: trying to hack up > to work) the pccard package and am wondering if there are others like me. my understanding is that the pccard code works in current not perfect but functional. > Is there a mailing list setup for this? Should there be? Otherwise, yes, there is freebsd-mobile. here si the info file FREEBSD-MOBILE Mobile computing using FreeBSD The list discusses the issues related to running FreeBSD on notebooks, laptops, and other mobile equipment. Typical issues include APM, PC-CARD, wireless communication, and related topics. > shall I spam this list with my ultra-mega-spam output? the bigger the post the better the content should be ;) you may want to test the waters by talking with the people on that list (freebsd-mobile) first. jmb -- Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD--4.4BSD Unix for PC clones, source included. http://www.freebsd.org/ PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 17:18:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA04403 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 17:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA04390 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 17:18:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id OAA20852; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 14:04:20 GMT Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 14:04:20 GMT Message-Id: <199606191404.OAA20852@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: af@biomath.jussieu.fr CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199606190804.AA28032@iaka.biomath.jussieu.fr> (message from Alain FAUCONNET on Wed, 19 Jun 1996 09:04:52 +0100 (GMT+0100)) Subject: Re: Max first parameter of a Select call? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > How do you get the 'select' call in FreeBSD to be happy with something > > greater than 256 as a first parameter? > > Anything above this seems to give a "Select error 22 - invalid argument" > > > > Not a reply, just a followup: this "feature" seems to have a lot of > interesting side effects on my machine (2.1-STABLE pre-earthquake). > When I set user resources limits to hard limits ("unlimit" C-shell > command) and the max file descriptors goes >> 256, sudo no longer > works ("Password:" prompt exits immediately), fvwm sets system load at > 1.0 permanently. I have ktraced fvwm and actually saw that select > returning an error. Everything goes back to normal when I set max fd > <= 256. Hmm. As I understand the select() man page, a user program can increase FD_SETSIZE above the value specified in , which just happens to be 256, but not above the value compiled into the kernel. However, is a copy of the types.h used in compiling the kernel, which is where the kernel picks up its value of FD_SETSIZE from. So a user program can never safely use FD_SETSIZE > 256 without a kernel re-compile first! Perhaps we need a FD_SETSIZE option in the kernel config file? (I have a vague memory of seeing one once, but there's no record of it in my CVS tree). -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 17:21:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA04536 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 17:21:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA04451 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 17:19:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id NAA20774; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:20:09 GMT Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 13:20:09 GMT Message-Id: <199606191320.NAA20774@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: hasegawa@rdpc1.ahs.kitasato-u.ac.jp CC: questions@freebsd.org, hasegawa@rdpc1.ahs.kitasato-u.ac.jp In-reply-to: <31C7E127.41C67EA6@rdpc1.ahs.kitasato-u.ac.jp> (message from Tomoyuki Hasegawa on Wed, 19 Jun 1996 11:14:47 +0000) Subject: Re: [Q]cap60 compile error Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I can not compile cap60 > "make install" output the following error message. > I have read in FAQs that cap60 was running on FreeBSD. I'm not familiar with that program (it doesn't seem to be in the ports collection), but here's my thoughts on your make output:- > mkdir /usr/local/cap /usr/local/cap > mkdir: /usr/local/cap: File exists > mkdir: /usr/local/cap: File exists > *** Error code 1 (ignored) This looks harmless - it's just making sure the install directory exists. > cp atis /usr/local/cap > (cd samples; make install) > "makefile", line 97: Need an operator > Fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue > *** Error code 1 (ignored) This often happens with Makefiles designed to be used with GNU make - FreeBSD uses BSD make, which is slightly different. (You can install GNU make as 'gmake' from the ports or packages distributions). However, you mention you're using 2.0.5. If I remember rightly, the make in 2.0.5 was much stricter than in 2.0 and gave this error if the action line in a Makefile didn't start with a tab character. eg foobar.o: foobar.c foobar.h $(CC) -c -I$(INCLUDE) foobar.c ^ | \----------- tab character here - no problem foobar.o: foobar.c foobar.h $(CC) -c -I$(INCLUDE) foobar.c ^ | \----------- 8 space characters here - error! This is actually more correct, but there are so many broken Makefiles in the world that it had to be changed back in 2.1.0. If this is the problem, it can be fixed with a text editor - or by upgrading! 8-) > (cd contrib; make install) > strip cvt2apple cvt2cap lwrename printqueue snitch aufsmkusr aufsmkkey > cp cvt2apple cvt2cap /usr/local/cap > cp lwrename printqueue snitch aufsmkusr aufsmkkey /usr/local/cap > (cd applications; make install) > (cd lwsrv; make install) > cc -DBYTESWAPPED -DPHASE2 -O -c lwsrvconfig.c > lwsrvconfig.c: In function `strdup': > lwsrvconfig.c:675: argument `str' doesn't match prototype > /usr/include/string.h:85: prototype declaration > *** Error code 1 This looks like the program is trying to provide its own version of strdup() for systems that don't have one and it's using a char * instead of a const char * for the argument. This can be fixed by something like before:- char *strdup(char *str) { after:- char *strdup(const char *str) { You may then see warnings like "assignment to pointer discards const", but these can be ignored. Alternatively, there may be a make option (called something like HAVE_STRDUP, perhaps) you can define to tell it that you have strdup() so it doesn't need to supply its own. BTW, if you find you have to make changes to a program to get it to work on FreeBSD, it's always a good idea to keep a record of them, so you can ask the author to incorporate the changes into the next version of the program. And they come in useful if you want to submit your work as a FreeBSD port 8-) -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 19:41:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA12340 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 19:41:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (root@gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA12333 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 19:41:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by gallup.cia-g.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA08954; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 20:41:56 -0600 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 20:41:56 -0600 (MDT) From: Stephen Fisher To: "Randal L. Carr" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installation In-Reply-To: <199606192322.TAA18178@mh004.infi.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is root.flp in \floppies? Also, you may not have to do it this way but I always start with \dists and put everything in there, the \floppies On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, Randal L. Carr wrote: > I am attempting an installation using an MS-DOS partition. Everything works > fine until the final steps when I get an error that reads "cannot locate > root image, please fix this problem and try again". > > Any idea why this error occurs. I have the files in a directory like this: > > c:\FreeBSD\ > \bin > \des > \dict > \floppies > \games > etc, etc... > > I am trying to install to D: > > The boot manager works fine, F1 for DOS, F5 for disk 2 > > thank you.... > - Steve - Systems Manager - Community Internet Access - http://www.cia-g.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 20:17:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA13976 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 20:17:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ktnet.ktnet.co.kr (ktnet.ktnet.co.kr [203.248.73.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA13971 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 20:17:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sphere.ktnet.co.kr (sphere.ktnet.co.kr [203.248.73.96]) by ktnet.ktnet.co.kr (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA25441 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 12:16:04 +0900 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960620031706.00682950@ktnet.co.kr> X-Sender: geoid@ktnet.co.kr X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 12:17:06 +0900 To: questions@freebsd.org From: "Jun, Gyu-Chang" Subject: Upgrade to -stable from -release Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, world. I have heard about the rumora ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Korea Trade Network. Communication Business Team. Tech. Staff ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 20:39:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA14791 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 20:39:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca (root@cicerone.uunet.ca [142.77.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA14771 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 20:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from why.whine.com ([205.150.249.1]) by mail.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <115216-18047>; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 23:39:08 -0400 Received: from why (andrew@why [205.150.249.1]) by why.whine.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA05005 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 23:39:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 23:38:59 -0400 From: Andrew Herdman X-Sender: andrew@why To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Hard drive went insane Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk My FBSD 960323-SNAP box went into a seizure this evening, after a reboot i was able to get the following messages out of /var/log/messages Jun 19 21:36:30 ghoul /kernel: wd0a: wdstart: timeout waiting for DRQ writing fsbn 112 of 112-127 (wd0 bn 112; cn 112 tn 0 sn 0)wd0: status 51 error 4 Jun 19 21:42:05 ghoul /kernel: wd0a: wdstart: timeout waiting for DRQ writing fsbn 65680 of 65680-65695 (wd0 bn 65680; cn 65680 tn 0 sn 0)wd0: status 51 error 4 Jun 19 21:47:39 ghoul /kernel: ting fsbn 176 of 176-191 (wd0 bn 176; cn 176 tn 0 sn 0)wd0: status 51 error 4 Jun 19 21:54:07 ghoul /kernel: wd0a: wdstart: timeout waiting for DRQ writing fsbn 65680 of 65680-65695 (wd0 bn 65680; cn 65680 tn 0 sn 0)wd0: status 51 error 4 Jun 19 22:02:09 ghoul /kernel: wd0a: wdstart: timeout waiting for DRQ writing fsbn 65696 of 65696-65711 (wd0 bn 65696; cn 65696 tn 0 sn 0)wd0: status 51 error 4 Jun 19 22:09:07 ghoul /kernel: wd0e: wdstart: timeout waiting for DRQ writing fsbn 65696 of 65696-65711 (wd0 bn 278688; cn 278688 tn 0 sn 0)wd0: status 51 error 4 Jun 19 22:11:28 ghoul /kernel: wd0f: wdstart: timeout waiting for DRQ writing fsbn 48336 of 48336-48351 (wd0 bn 1899728; cn 1899728 tn 0 sn 0)wd0: status 51 error 4 Jun 19 22:20:37 ghoul /kernel: wd0f: wdstart: timeout waiting for DRQ writing fsbn 49368 of 49368-49371 (wd0 bn 1900760; cn 1900760 tn 0 sn 0)wd0: status 51 error 4 Jun 19 22:32:03 ghoul /kernel: wd0f: wdstart: timeout waiting for DRQ writing fsbn 49376 of 49376-49379 (wd0 bn 1900768; cn 1900768 tn 0 sn 0)wd0: status 51 error 4 Jun 19 22:57:42 ghoul /kernel: wd0f: wdstart: timeout waiting for DRQ writing fsbn 49380 of 49380-49383 (wd0 bn 1900772; cn 1900772 tn 0 sn 0)wd0: status 51 error 4 I'm not even sure what these messages mean, and yes I know IDE drives are evil, but I didn't choose them. Kernel config is normal except for: disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 flags 0x80ff disk wd1 at wdc1 drive 0 flags 0x80ff Any clues hints or hey that's neat can you make it do it again's appreciated. Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 21:06:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA15604 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 21:06:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.crl.com (mail.crl.com [165.113.1.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA15599 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 21:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA06929 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 19 Jun 1996 21:06:43 -0700 Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-13.ime.net [206.231.149.22]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA02751; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 00:05:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <31C8CE3F.70F3@ime.net> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 00:06:23 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Clapper Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Broken Apache man page help needed References: <199606192243.SAA00572@telebase.com.> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Brian Clapper wrote: > > > Actually, your best bet for Apache docs is the Apache web site. > http://www.apache.org/ > Yup, If ya have the time to waste while waiting for overworked/loaded servers/lines for GUI documentation. Be nice if I did! But I don't! Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 21:22:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA16079 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 21:22:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ktnet.ktnet.co.kr (ktnet.ktnet.co.kr [203.248.73.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA16074 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 21:22:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sphere.ktnet.co.kr (sphere.ktnet.co.kr [203.248.73.96]) by ktnet.ktnet.co.kr (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA26340 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 13:21:44 +0900 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960620042246.00747760@ktnet.co.kr> X-Sender: geoid@ktnet.co.kr X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 13:22:46 +0900 To: questions@freebsd.org From: "Jun, Gyu-Chang" Subject: Upgrade to -stable from -release Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, world. I have heard the rumor which says the -stable distributions can run BSDi 2.x binaries. OK.. Then how can I upgrade to -stable from -release? It will be greatly appreciated if anyone can give step by step instructions. Thanks in Advance. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 21:42:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA16866 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 21:42:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlantis.nconnect.net (root@atlantis.nconnect.net [206.54.227.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA16861 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 21:42:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arabian.astrolab.net ([206.54.227.203]) by atlantis.nconnect.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA02159 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 18:39:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <31C89007.41C67EA6@nconnect.net> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 23:40:55 +0000 From: Randy DuCharme X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Missing Memory & shrinking drives Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, I noticed that when booting my 2.1 release machine the following... FreeBSD Boot @ 0x10000: 639/64512k of ram . . . a little farther down ---> BIOS basemem (639k) != RTC basemem (640k) . . . Is this due to BIOS issues (ie: Pentium plug&play bios extensions, etc.), or a controller BIOS (Adaptec 2940UW Installed) or a problem? This leads to a second question regarding FreeBSD and viruses. How does FreeBSD handle the presence of the various types of viruses. Is it similar to the way NT handles them?? Are there any anti-virus utilities available for FBSD? Finally.... I noticed that I've nearly exhausted the 700MB that I've set aside on the drive for FreeBSD. df shows capacity at 100% and -2363 Avail (how is this possible?) yet it still shows a few 512-blocks left. I've pretty much installed everything that I'm going to use. What can I "SAFELY" delete to free a little space. I've deleted a large number of items in /usr/ports. Thanks Randy From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 22:56:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA19637 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 22:56:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emh.kadena.af.mil (emh.kadena.af.mil [132.15.128.128]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA19621 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 22:56:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from luttgenj.kadena.af.mil by emh.kadena.af.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04106; Thu, 20 Jun 96 14:55:50 JST Message-Id: <31C8E7E1.746A@emh.kadena.af.mil> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 14:55:46 +0900 From: "A1C Jason T. Luttgens" Reply-To: luttgenj@emh.kadena.af.mil Organization: USAF X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Kernel image.....where is it? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm not sure what's going on here...but....2.1.0 copy goes fine...no errors......but at the end of copying files, I get this error..... "Can't find a kernel image to link to on the root filesystem." And the system will NOT boot....... Any ideas ???? From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jun 19 23:45:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA21599 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 23:45:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ccslinux.dlsu.edu.ph (pcua@linux1.dlsu.edu.ph [165.220.8.15]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA21547 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 1996 23:44:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pcua@localhost) by ccslinux.dlsu.edu.ph (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA22051; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 14:50:31 +0800 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 14:50:29 +0800 (GMT+0800) From: John Patrick Cua To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: NFS Setup Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there any documentation for setting up NFS? I can only mount one directory from the file server. What's worse is that the client hangs once in a while. I also get the message "Permission denied" whenever I try mounting the second directory. > > Patrick From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 00:16:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA23025 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 00:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vpm.com ([207.49.29.143]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA23014 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 00:16:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by vpm.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA21889 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 00:18:19 -0700 From: Mark Stout Message-Id: <199606200718.AAA21889@vpm.com> Subject: pbmplus for FreeBSD? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 00:18:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi All: Has anyone been able to get pbmplus to compile on FreeBSD? If so, mind sharing how you did it? Is there anything else that would be comparable that I could use as a replacement? This is for a program I have to determine ISP connectivity metrics and graphs the metrics over time. It uses pbmplus. PBMPLUS - A toolkit for converting image formats. Anybody have any ideas? This used to be at http://www.acme.com/software/pbmplus, but that was back in '91, so it's old to say the least. Thanks, Mark -- ========================================================================== Mark Stout | The Village Potpourri Mall: http://www.vpm.com/ ---------------+---------------------------------------------------------- VPM Enterprises; P.O.Box 6427; Folsom, CA 95763-6427 Secured Web Hosting and Secured Discussion Groups Secured Internet Sales, Marketing and Advertising Specialist ========================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 00:56:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA24794 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 00:56:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shaman.lycaeum.org (SHAMAN.LYCAEUM.ORG [206.54.74.27]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA24789 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 00:56:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (edmond@localhost) by shaman.lycaeum.org (Partyon/dude!) with SMTP id BAA22146 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 01:58:31 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 01:58:30 -0600 (MDT) From: "Andrew N. Edmond" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: SIMM stackers? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I currently have 4 SIMM slots on my Intel Pentium Pro 200mhz motherboard, filled with four 16MB 60ns SIMM memory chips. I am looking to upgrade to 128MB, and would like to use the current chips with one of these new "SIMM Stackers" So I would then have two 16MB SIMMS stacked, emulating a 32mb SIMM, in two slots, and then adding two new 32mb SIMMS in the other two remaining slots for a total of 128mb of memory. Anybody have problems with these SIMM stackers? I am not too sure of the technology but haven't heard anything good or bad about them. Running FreeBSD 2.1-stable (may 07th). Andy ............................................................................. . Andrew Edmond . Children of a future age, . .. edmond@lycaeum.org ... Reading this indignant page, .. ... University of Wyoming ..... Know that in a former time, ... .... Botany Department ....... A path to God was thought a crime. .... ....................... the Lycaeum ......................................... -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzGauk0AAAEEANjORiZVrD98GS+vkJv+36CLC5Agifk8ra61i3i+Ms2115uK 9WoeUBA2J9QkjG+dM6tEOkPtrnZFkahFbOsDT0Rh46eBktdAp7IXY5M2zN4r1bWt x6w4b//ffkfRbrTinovxXYLJa5oASudlQbNkVpqAOAH1fdTO3xFsi69/gtsxAAUR tCJBbmRyZXcgRWRtb25kIDxlZG1vbmRAbHljYWV1bS5vcmc+tBBBbmRyZXcgTi4g RWRtb25k =l080 -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 02:22:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA00227 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 02:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.iafrica.com ([196.7.74.174]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA00215 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 02:21:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (khetan@localhost) by chain.iafrica.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA00316; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 11:00:33 +0200 (SAT) X-Authentication-Warning: chain.iafrica.com: khetan owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 10:58:06 +0200 (SAT) From: Khetan Gajjar To: questions@freebsd.org cc: "Steven G. Kargl" Subject: Re: swap problem - more information In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 20 Jun 1996, Khetan Gajjar wrote: >Thanks. I'll let you know if it helped things. Hi. I set up another swap file and used vconfig to make it a swap partition, according to the FAQ. The problem is that the drive pages so often, that the machine is unuseable. It is really, really slow. Anyone have any idea why it's so slow or how to speed it up so that it's as fast as my swap partition ? Regards, Khetan Gajjar. --- http://www.iafrica.com/~khetan/ UUNet-Internet Africa Operations - 0800-030-002 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 02:26:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA00350 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 02:26:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA00341 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 02:26:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id JAA00982; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 09:07:23 GMT Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 09:07:23 GMT Message-Id: <199606200907.JAA00982@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: markd@grizzly.com CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199606191434.HAA09375@Grizzly.COM> (message from Mark Diekhans on Wed, 19 Jun 1996 07:34:30 -0700) Subject: Re: Local nameserver with a part-time ppp connection? Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Does anyone know if its possible to run a local name server with a part-time > ppp connection to the rest of the world? Yep, I run a cache-only name server which forwards all queries to my ISP's name servers. > Even with sendmail just queuing mail, its still tries to talk to the nameserver > to verify mail address. Causing it to wait for the local named to time out > trying to connect to the internet servers. Oh right, in that case a cache-only nameserver probably won't help you. I used to have a magic incantation in sendmail.cf that stopped it doing this, but I've lost it now and I don't have the "bat book" here to look it up - it just involved changing a line under Rule 96 and moving it slightly further down, as I recall. Are there any sendmail gurus who can fill in the gap here? -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 03:24:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA03092 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 03:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zyqad.co.uk (zyqad.demon.co.uk [158.152.135.161]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA03020; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 03:23:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by zyqad.co.uk; (5.65/1.1.8.2/21Apr95-0317PM) id AA21219; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 09:35:29 +0100 Message-Id: <9606200835.AA21219@zyqad.co.uk> To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: More questions following SUCCESSFUL Installation Date: Thu, 20 Jun 96 09:35:29 +0100 From: "John Richards" X-Mts: smtp Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello all, Thanks for all the answers to my previous question regarding Hitachi Atapi CDrom and FreeBSD. I now have my machine up and working. The details are: Intel 486DX33 Pine Technology VESA Mbd 8MB memory - 8 * 30 pin 1MB chips 200MB Western Digital IDE HD - primary master, DOS + FreeBSD with boot manager 250MB WD IDE HD - primary slave, FreeBSD with boot manager 1.2 GB WD IDE HD - secondary master, FreeBSD Hitachi 4x Atapi CDROM - secondary slave 3.5" Floppy Pine Technology 1MB VESA Cirrus graphics card Quite an old machine but it does the job. Once I got the hardware configured correctly the installation was a doddle except that I forgot to install the sources to rebuild the kernel and so had to redo part of it. It even runs X11 although it doesn't drive the 1024x768 resolution cleanly. Questions: 1. On the 200MB disk I used to have all my home directory stuff when I had 1.1.5.1 working. I appear to have remade the disklabel on this slice (stupid I know) during the installation. Is there any way I can recover the information from this disk? Currently it is mounted as two partitions /olddisk1 and /olddisk2 but both of these show as empty. Yet the disk used to have data on it and probably still does as I haven't written anything new to it (disklabel excepted). And Yes I know I should have backed up the things I wanted to keep but I didn't and I didn't intend to make a new filesystem on that slice but accidents will happen - especially if you are impatient. 2. My /etc/services file is very small having only 5 entries. Is this correct? The machine I'm writing this from - a DEC alpha 3000 has a much larger services file. I assume that once I get my FreeBSD box connected to the net I'm going to have to add the services as needed - n'est pas? 3. To get Sendmail, DNS, TCP/IP, PPP etc working do I just install the appropriate package? 4. How do I make use of the live filesystem disk? Does this mean that I don't need to install all packages that I want if I only want some occasionally? 5. Any hints about clearing up the flutter on X11 at high resolution appreciated. All help much appreciated especially to question 1. Bye John (Play Violin & Ride Bike - but not at the same time) ******************************************************************************** John Richards * email : john@zyqad.co.uk Zyqad Ltd, * Suite 25, GPT Business Park, * Technology Drive, Beeston * tel : +44 115 922 0820 NOTTINGHAM. NG9 2ND. * fax : +44 115 967 8374 ******************************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 04:08:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA05515 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 04:08:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wolf.riga.lv (wolf.riga.lv [194.8.12.90]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA05483 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 04:08:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stoat.riga.lv by wolf.riga.lv with SMTP id AA24852 (5.65.kiae-1 for ); Thu, 20 Jun 1996 13:59:09 +0300 Received: from irs.UUCP by stoat.riga.lv with UUCP id AA12990 (5.65.kiae-1 for questions@freebsd.org); Thu, 20 Jun 1996 14:04:21 +0300 Received: by irs.riga.lv (UUPC/extended 1.12r); Thu, 20 Jun 1996 13:50:23 +0200 Message-Id: <31c93aff.irs@irs.riga.lv> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 96 13:50:22 +0200 From: Dmitry Solodov Subject: HDD slices To: questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: dima@irs.riga.lv X-Class: Fast X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] for OS/2 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I did poor thing: cd /dev sh MAKEDEV all and that caused all the slices devices to disappear, so when system boots it may not find slices listed in /etc/fstab How to recreate the slices for two my IDE drives ? Thanks in advance. Dima. -- Dmitry Solodov E-mail: dima@irs.riga.lv | fax. +371-7287659 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 04:41:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA07698 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 04:41:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gamma.qmw.ac.uk (gamma.qmw.ac.uk [138.37.6.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA07692 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 04:41:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from canary.dcs.qmw.ac.uk by gamma.qmw.ac.uk with SMTP-QMW with ESMTP; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 12:40:49 +0100 Received: from crux.dcs.qmw.ac.uk [138.37.89.3] by canary.dcs.qmw.ac.uk (8.7.5/QMW-server-2.8s+SMS) with SMTP; poster "Scott Mitchell "; id MAA14714; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 12:40:47 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost by ; id MAA14548; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 12:39:51 +0100 Message-Id: <199606201139.MAA14548@crux> To: Terry Lambert Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux emulation and ELF In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 Jun 1996 10:46:01 PDT." Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 12:39:51 +0100 From: Scott Mitchell Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Running Linux ELF binaries requires at least -stable, if not actually >-current. The Linux emulation in the 2.1R is for Linux a.out binaries >only. > >There is a JDK "port" for regular FreeBSD-current. It requires (I >believe) Netscape b2 (the current version of Netscape is b4). I >believe the JDK uses shared context variables across applets, >which is a huge security hole. I don't know how the JDK can >run in a fixed implementation, without changes. I suspect there >will need to be a definition of an authenticated IPC mechanism >some time soon for the bugfixed versions. > >Otherwise, run a non-bugfixed version (like b2), but don't go out on >the net with it. I've seen this...unfortunately we're building real applications so Netscape isn't much help. I grabbed Jeffrey Hsu's port of JDK1.0, however this seems to need shared Motif libs. The Linux port has the Motif stuff statically linked though. (I don't really want to buy Motif just for the sake of being able to work at home occasionally). Thanks for the info. Scott =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell, CompSci Dept, Queen Mary & Westfield College, London, UK mailto:scott@dcs.qmw.ac.uk http://www.dcs.qmw.ac.uk/~scott finger scott@ruby.dcs.qmw.ac.uk for PGP public key From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 05:50:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA10078 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 05:50:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from battra.telebase.com (root@battra.telebase.com [192.132.57.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA10073 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 05:50:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wormhole.telebase.com by battra.telebase.com id IAA23377; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 08:50:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from odo.telebase.com (root@odo.telebase.com [172.16.2.217]) by wormhole.telebase.com (8.7.4/8.6.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA06799; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 08:50:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bmc@localhost) by odo.telebase.com (8.7.5/8.6.9.1) id IAA07611; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 08:50:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 08:50:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199606201250.IAA07611@telebase.com.> From: Brian Clapper To: tcg@ime.net Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Broken Apache man page help needed In-Reply-To: <31C8CE3F.70F3@ime.net> References: <199606192243.SAA00572@telebase.com.> <31C8CE3F.70F3@ime.net> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Gary" == Gary Chrysler writes: Gary> Yup, If ya have the time to waste while waiting for Gary> overworked/loaded servers/lines for GUI documentation. Gary> Be nice if I did! But I don't! You seem to have time to waste wading through mailing lists, though. Besides the Apache server isn't all that overloaded, relative to some. ---- Brian Clapper .............................................. bmc@telebase.com http://www.netaxs.com/~bmc/ ............. PGP public key available on request "It took me fifteen years to discover that I had no talent for writing, but I couldn't give up because by that time I was too famous." From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 06:04:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA10674 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 06:04:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jolt.eng.umd.edu (jolt.eng.umd.edu [129.2.102.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA10668 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 06:04:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ginger.eng.umd.edu (ginger.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.204]) by jolt.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA01538; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 09:04:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by ginger.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA03112; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 09:04:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 09:04:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@ginger.eng.umd.edu To: Mark Stout cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pbmplus for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <199606200718.AAA21889@vpm.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 20 Jun 1996, Mark Stout wrote: > Hi All: > > > Has anyone been able to get pbmplus to compile on FreeBSD? If so, mind > sharing how you did it? > > Is there anything else that would be comparable that I could use as a > replacement? > > This is for a program I have to determine ISP connectivity metrics > and graphs the metrics over time. It uses pbmplus. PBMPLUS - A toolkit > for converting image formats. > > Anybody have any ideas? This used to be at > http://www.acme.com/software/pbmplus, but that was back in '91, so it's > old to say the least. Try /usr/ports/graphics/netpbm. It installs fine, and is the successor to the pbmplus software. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 06:28:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA12072 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 06:28:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix.stylo.it (unix.stylo.it [193.76.98.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA12061 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 06:28:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from servernt.stylo.it (servernt.stylo.it [193.76.98.4]) by unix.stylo.it (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA10417 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 15:27:40 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by servernt.stylo.it with Microsoft Exchange (IMC 4.12.736) id <01BB5EBC.A61AD6E0@servernt.stylo.it>; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 15:25:01 +0200 Message-ID: From: Angelo Turetta To: "'freebsd-questions'" Subject: Can I bind a socket to a given source address ? Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 15:27:30 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.12.736 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BB5EBC.A61C5D80" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. Contact your mail administrator for information about upgrading your reader to a version that supports MIME. ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB5EBC.A61C5D80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm learning (DoItYourself :-) network programming, and I'm wondering whether it is possible to establish a TCP connection with another host (with connect()), using a particular source address chose among the various aliases or interfaces present on the local host. Thanks Angelo. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Angelo Turetta mailto:aturetta@stylo.it Stylo Multimedia - Bologna - Italy http://www.stylo.it/ ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB5EBC.A61C5D80-- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 06:30:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA12204 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 06:30:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from itsdsv1.enc.edu (itsdsv1.enc.edu [199.93.252.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA12194 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 06:30:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dingo.enc.edu (dingo.enc.edu [199.93.252.229]) by itsdsv1.enc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA26232; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 09:29:29 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 09:29:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Charles Owens Reply-To: Charles Owens To: steve farrell cc: questions list FreeBSD Subject: Re: JDK In-Reply-To: <199606192322.QAA02100@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Steve Farrel said: { so what's the story with this (clip from alta-vista): JDK 1.0 port to FreeBSD JDK 1.0 port to FreeBSD. Announce. I have ports of the JDK 1.0 using Green threads, pthreads, and uthreads. This port I'm releasing uses Green threads and... http://toody.sicc.co.kr/~sjwhang/java/fbsdjdk1.htm - but when i look around at this guy's site, i see a bunch of good references, but no JDK for FreeBSD -- what happened there? also, what exactly is the status of running JDK for linux on FreeBSD. does it happen with -current? } I'm saying: I dug around a bit at the Web site that you mention. He moved the Java stuff, and once I found that, the actual document that you're looking for was buried a bit. This is what you want: http://www.sicc.co.kr/~sjwhang/javalist/jdk/fbsdjdk1.htm I don't know how the above relates to the javac and jdk ports that are in ports-current, but I actually had the first version that appeared working on my 2.1-stable system (I may have got it working with the Linux Netscape... can't remember... haven't used it in a month or two). Yesterday I decided to install the latest. I grabbed the port files for javac-netscape, netscape3, and jdk and built them. Now, when I run javac I get a segmentation fault, and netscape spits out a core file. (Netscape works fine as a web viewer though) So, another datapoint... Let me know if you get further. --- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Charles Owens Email: owensc@enc.edu "I read somewhere to learn is to Information Technology Services remember... and I've learned that Eastern Nazarene College we've all forgot..." - King's X ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 06:39:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA12940 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 06:39:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haven.uchicago.edu (root@haven.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA12934 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 06:39:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from meno.uchicago.edu (meno.uchicago.edu [128.135.21.34]) by haven.uchicago.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA19203; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 08:39:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from meno.uchicago.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by meno.uchicago.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA24775; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 08:41:56 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199606201341.IAA24775@meno.uchicago.edu> To: Charles Owens cc: steve farrell , questions list FreeBSD Subject: Re: JDK In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 20 Jun 1996 09:29:49 EDT." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <24771.835278116.1@meno.uchicago.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 08:41:56 -0500 From: steve farrell Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >I'm saying: > >I dug around a bit at the Web site that you mention. He moved the Java >stuff, and once I found that, the actual document that you're looking for >was buried a bit. This is what you want: > > http://www.sicc.co.kr/~sjwhang/javalist/jdk/fbsdjdk1.htm you definitely have more patience with the web than i! > >I don't know how the above relates to the javac and jdk ports that are in >ports-current, but I actually had the first version that appeared working >on my 2.1-stable system (I may have got it working with the Linux >Netscape... can't remember... haven't used it in a month or two). > >Yesterday I decided to install the latest. I grabbed the port files for >javac-netscape, netscape3, and jdk and built them. Now, when I run javac >I get a segmentation fault, and netscape spits out a core file. (Netscape >works fine as a web viewer though) yep -- well, as terry said, try 3.0b2, but don't go out on the web with it as it has some security problems. > >So, another datapoint... Let me know if you get further. i think i'll write to the guy. his comments on that page are quite revealing... that freebsd needs some more work to better handle the threads. anyone have more info on this? (i have no idea what the date is on that page, and things might have changed a lot.) --steve farrell From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 06:42:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA13116 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 06:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA13111 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 06:42:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id HAA09496; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 07:42:00 -0600 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 07:42:00 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199606201342.HAA09496@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: Randy DuCharme Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Missing Memory & shrinking drives In-Reply-To: <31C89007.41C67EA6@nconnect.net> References: <31C89007.41C67EA6@nconnect.net> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Greetings, > I noticed that when booting my 2.1 release machine the following... > > FreeBSD Boot @ 0x10000: 639/64512k of ram > . > . > . > a little farther down ---> > > BIOS basemem (639k) != RTC basemem (640k) > . > . > . > > Is this due to BIOS issues (ie: Pentium plug&play bios extensions, > etc.), It's a motherboard BIOS issue. Your board reserves 1K of memory (probably for the IDE BIOS settings) which is fairly common, but it claims to have 640K free in the first block. It's not a problem though. > How does FreeBSD handle the presence of the various types of viruses. > Is it similar to the way NT handles them?? Are there any anti-virus > utilities available for FBSD? 1) Unix processes aren't allowed to touch another process, so virus's basically "don't exist". 2) It would be difficult to obtain a Unix virus given a source-code only system. 3) Given the lack of pre-packaged binary software that comes from outside vendors the chances of getting a virus are slim to none. If/when FreeBSD becomes *really* popular this might become an issue, but it isn't one yet. However, some vendors would lead you to believe that virus exist on every system, so you must spend a gazillion dollars on their virus-protection software. Don't bother. > I noticed that I've nearly exhausted the 700MB that I've set aside on > the drive for FreeBSD. df shows capacity at 100% and -2363 Avail (how is > this possible?) yet it still shows a few 512-blocks left. I've pretty > much installed everything that I'm going to use. What can I "SAFELY" > delete to free a little space. I've deleted a large number of items in > /usr/ports. You can probably delete *all* of /usr/ports unless you plan on re-installing things, and I'd start looking at deleting some ports that you don't plan on really using. You can always download them and re-install again (or stick the CD in the drive and re-install). Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 06:48:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA13355 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 06:48:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blanco.sadeya.cesca.es (blanco.sadeya.cesca.es [192.94.163.146]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA13349 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 06:48:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyan.infortecnica.es ([193.148.6.29]) by blanco.sadeya.cesca.es (8.6.11/8.7.0) with SMTP id PAA04046; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 15:46:22 +0200 Message-ID: <31C971D8.3A55@sadeya.cesca.es> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 15:44:24 +0000 From: Carlos Amengual Organization: SADEYA X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tcg@ime.net CC: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Broken Apache man page help needed References: <31C855C3.4CFE@ime.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gary Chrysler wrote: > > Hi all, I installed apache from sysinstall when I installed > 2.1r. You'll do better if you install Apache from the ports collection or, even better, get the latest (1.05?) version as it installs easily. You only need to account for "-lcrypt" as an "EXTRA_LIB" when building htpasswd (this utility was not installed on my system when I installed Apache from sysinstall). > man apache, returns an unformated page of giberish! You are "luckier" than me, as I did not get any apache man page. I suggest that you follow the advice and get the html docs from apache.org or one of its many mirror sites. Regards, -- ========================================================== Carlos Amengual - Sociedad Astronómica de España y América Avenida Diagonal, 377, 2 - 08008 Barcelona - Spain amengual@sadeya.cesca.es - http://www.sadeya.cesca.es/ ========================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 06:52:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA13515 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 06:52:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA13510 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 06:52:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id HAA09514; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 07:48:34 -0600 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 07:48:34 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199606201348.HAA09514@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: Khetan Gajjar Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: swap problem - more information In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi. I set up another swap file and used vconfig to make it a swap > partition, according to the FAQ. > > The problem is that the drive pages so often, that the machine is > unuseable. It is really, really slow. Anyone have any idea why it's so > slow or how to speed it up so that it's as fast as my swap partition ? If you're paging that much, you've got bigger problems than a slow swap file. The *real* problem is that you don't have enough memory. You can't expect a 4MB box to run decently given 64MB of processes, no matter how much swap you give it. You're either going to have to buy more memory or put up with a slow system which is doing more than it's capable of. However, on the bright side isn't it great that you *can* run 64MB of processes on a 4MB system. It may be slow, but it does work. :) Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 06:53:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA13540 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 06:53:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA13535 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 06:53:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id IAA09327; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 08:52:50 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199606201352.IAA09327@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: JDK To: spfarrel@midway.uchicago.edu (steve farrell) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 08:52:50 -0500 (EST) Cc: owensc@enc.edu, spfarrel@midway.uchicago.edu, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606201341.IAA24775@meno.uchicago.edu> from "steve farrell" at Jun 20, 96 08:41:56 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > i think i'll write to the guy. his comments on that page are quite > revealing... that freebsd needs some more work to better handle the > threads. anyone have more info on this? (i have no idea what the > date is on that page, and things might have changed a lot.) > One thing that is on my list (and perhaps the next thing that I am going to do) is to support true sharing of address spaces between processes. That will allow better support of certain thread packages as I have heard. John From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 07:24:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA15514 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 07:24:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyber1.cyberhall.com ([206.154.165.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA15504 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 07:24:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dbrockus@localhost) by cyber1.cyberhall.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA02815; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 09:26:43 GMT Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 09:26:43 +0000 () From: David Brockus To: DAMAN cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to unzip gzip'd files In-Reply-To: <31C88833.33AA@washington.xtn.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk gzip comes with FreeBSD. Take a look at the man page and it should tell you what you need to know. Type the following at a shell prompt man gzip David Brockus From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 07:47:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA16883 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 07:47:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA16820 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 07:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id QAA11969; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 16:45:30 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (MAA02539); Thu, 20 Jun 1996 12:53:11 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199606201253.MAA02539@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: doskey ... To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 12:53:11 +0000 (GMT) Cc: hmmm@alaska.net In-Reply-To: <31BFA4D3.172B@alaska.net> from "hmmm" at Jun 12, 96 10:19:15 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > just wondering what you call (& where) BSD's "doskey" utility ... > The FreeBSD's sh (ash) has the ability to edit the command line. (Other real sh's cannot do it). ksh and pdksh, and bash has this feature, too; and in the csh-world, tcsh has it. sh/ksh/pdksh/bash: set -o emacs (you can use the cursor keys) or set -o vi (you can use the key combinations of the vi editor). Read the pdksh/ksh man page, it is full of information about command-line editing. Bye, Gabor -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 07:52:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA17257 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 07:52:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA17137 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 07:50:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id QAA11969; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 16:45:30 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (MAA02539); Thu, 20 Jun 1996 12:53:11 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199606201253.MAA02539@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: doskey ... To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 12:53:11 +0000 (GMT) Cc: hmmm@alaska.net In-Reply-To: <31BFA4D3.172B@alaska.net> from "hmmm" at Jun 12, 96 10:19:15 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > just wondering what you call (& where) BSD's "doskey" utility ... > The FreeBSD's sh (ash) has the ability to edit the command line. (Other real sh's cannot do it). ksh and pdksh, and bash has this feature, too; and in the csh-world, tcsh has it. sh/ksh/pdksh/bash: set -o emacs (you can use the cursor keys) or set -o vi (you can use the key combinations of the vi editor). Read the pdksh/ksh man page, it is full of information about command-line editing. Bye, Gabor -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 08:08:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA18359 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 08:08:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA18349 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 08:08:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA25988; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 11:08:31 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 11:08:31 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9606201508.AA25988@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Dave Babler Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: tcpdump / trafshow / ifconfig problem In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > Never a good deed that goes unpunished... > I just tried to run the port trafshow but when I do, it says: > trafshow: BIOCSETIF: ix0: Device not configured The `ix' driver doesn't support BPF, so those programs which use BPF to examine traffic running through the system won't work with it. (It's probably a pretty poor choice for any sort of network monitoring anyway; the hardware just generally sucks.) -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 08:21:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA19171 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 08:21:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Rigel.orionsys.com (root@rigel.orionsys.com [205.148.224.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA19165 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 08:21:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dbabler@localhost) by Rigel.orionsys.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id IAA04987; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 08:21:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 08:21:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Babler To: Garrett Wollman cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tcpdump / trafshow / ifconfig problem In-Reply-To: <9606201508.AA25988@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 20 Jun 1996, Garrett Wollman wrote: > > Never a good deed that goes unpunished... > > I just tried to run the port trafshow but when I do, it says: > > > trafshow: BIOCSETIF: ix0: Device not configured > > The `ix' driver doesn't support BPF, so those programs which use BPF > to examine traffic running through the system won't work with it. > (It's probably a pretty poor choice for any sort of network monitoring > anyway; the hardware just generally sucks.) > > -GAWollman Granted, the EtherExpress 16 is an old card, but it was available and works just fine otherwise. What NICs are highly regarded, price/performance wise for FBSD? -Dave From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 09:26:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA22345 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 09:26:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ampere.excelsus.com ([207.2.82.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA22340 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 09:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from weldon@localhost) by ampere.excelsus.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA06115; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 12:25:35 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 12:25:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Weldon S Godfrey 3 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: 3com590, freebsd2.2snap, tcp problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am using the vx driver on FreeBSD2.2-960612-SNAP. And I am having the following symptons: 1. upon bootup I am getting "routed[51]: route from 198.119.147.1 to unsupported address family 768, destination 0.0.192.42" 2. the vx driver is not running in MULTICAST mode 3. Telnet to other FreeBSD machines has tremedious amounts of lag, if I am able to get in at all, right after login. FTPing to other FreeBSD machines locks up completely after it recieves 1 230 information message. ref problem 1 >>I tried disabling TCP extensions in /etc/sysconfig, this makes it worse, because I am unable to get to any machine on our network. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 09:48:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA23967 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 09:48:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cats.ucsc.edu (root@cats-po-1.UCSC.EDU [128.114.129.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA23960 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 09:48:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scruz.ucsc.edu by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id JAA07555; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 09:48:35 -0700 Received: from osprey by scruz.ucsc.edu id aa25536; 20 Jun 96 9:48 PDT Received: (from markd@localhost) by Grizzly.COM (8.6.12/8.6.9) id IAA01151; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 08:15:21 -0700 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 08:15:21 -0700 Message-Id: <199606201515.IAA01151@Grizzly.COM> From: Mark Diekhans To: mcs@vpm.com CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pbmplus for FreeBSD? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Has anyone been able to get pbmplus to compile on FreeBSD? If so, mind >sharing how you did it? >... >This is for a program I have to determine ISP connectivity metrics >and graphs the metrics over time. It uses pbmplus. PBMPLUS - A toolkit >for converting image formats. > >Anybody have any ideas? This used to be at >http://www.acme.com/software/pbmplus, but that was back in '91, so it's >old to say the least. There is a newer release called netpbm, grab: ftp://wuarchive.wustl.edu:/graphics/graphics/packages/NetPBM/netpbm-1mar1994.tar.gz I don't rememeber having any trouble compiling it on FreeBSD. Drop me some mail if you have problems. -- == Mark Diekhans == From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 09:49:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA24000 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 09:49:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ian.iafrica.com (root@ian.iafrica.com [196.31.1.15]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA23966 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 09:48:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ian.iafrica.com (khetan@ian.iafrica.com [196.31.1.15]) by ian.iafrica.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA27007; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:48:20 +0200 (SAT) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:48:19 +0200 (SAT) From: Khetan Gajjar To: Nate Williams cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: swap problem - more information In-Reply-To: <199606201348.HAA09514@rocky.sri.MT.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 20 Jun 1996, Nate Williams wrote: > file. The *real* problem is that you don't have enough memory. You I've got 32mb of physical ram - I dunno bout you, but I think that's enough for a machine for one person ? > can't expect a 4MB box to run decently given 64MB of processes, no It isn't a 4mb box. What gave you that idea ? > matter how much swap you give it. You're either going to have to buy > more memory or put up with a slow system which is doing more than it's > capable of. I mean, I've redone it now, and the swapping is slower on the vnconfig "drive" than on the swap partition - I mean, a *lot* slower. > However, on the bright side isn't it great that you *can* run 64MB of > processes on a 4MB system. It may be slow, but it does work. :) I installed FreeBSD on a 386sx-16 with 4 mb of RAM, and it made for a great web-server! However, my machine is a bit more than that, but not performing like it :-( --- Khetan Gajjar Visit at http://www.iafrica.com/~khetan/ UUNet-Internet Africa Operations help@iafrica.com or 0800-030-002 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 09:59:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA24422 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 09:59:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA24417 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 09:59:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by ref.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA04518 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 09:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA10114; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 10:55:36 -0600 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 10:55:36 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199606201655.KAA10114@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: Khetan Gajjar Cc: Nate Williams , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: swap problem - more information In-Reply-To: References: <199606201348.HAA09514@rocky.sri.MT.net> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > file. The *real* problem is that you don't have enough memory. You > > I've got 32mb of physical ram - I dunno bout you, but I think that's > enough for a machine for one person ? My boss has 128MB on his Ultra, and it's not enough for him. I've got 64MB on the Sparc 10 in front of me and it's often not enough. Saying '32MB is enough for one person' implies that you are willing to limit yourself to a certain number of applications. Granted, most people are pretty happy with 32MB, but that doesn't mean *everyone* will be happy. > > can't expect a 4MB box to run decently given 64MB of processes, no > > It isn't a 4mb box. What gave you that idea ? I was making a point. > > matter how much swap you give it. You're either going to have to buy > > more memory or put up with a slow system which is doing more than it's > > capable of. > > I mean, I've redone it now, and the swapping is slower on the vnconfig > "drive" than on the swap partition - I mean, a *lot* slower. Yep, it's going through the FS, vs. going directly to the disk. > > However, on the bright side isn't it great that you *can* run 64MB of > > processes on a 4MB system. It may be slow, but it does work. :) > > I installed FreeBSD on a 386sx-16 with 4 mb of RAM, and it made for a > great web-server! However, my machine is a bit more than that, but not > performing like it :-( If you're swapping that much it means you don't have enough memory for all of the applications you are running. How can it be otherwise? If you don't have enough memory, you need to get more. Now, if this is a transient problem that occurs rarely then adding more swap is a solution. That means using a swap file is okay since it is a rare condition. However, if swapping happens *all* the time then adding more swap will just speed up things, but you'll still be swapping *all* the time. If you're willing to settle for 'swapping all the time' but having it swap quickly, pick up another hard-drive and swap to it. This gives you two advantages. 1) You don't have to modify your existing system. 2) Data is spread out over two different spindles. You no longer have the heads trying to be at two places at the same time. On my system I have a *really slow* 40MB SCSI drive a friend gave to me. I use it for swap since I *rarely* touch the drive, and when I do I'm using both my fast regular drive and the slower 40MB drive. If I was *really* concerned about performance I'd get more memory, but I'm not. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 10:20:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA25942 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 10:20:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA25937 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 10:20:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-19.ime.net [206.231.149.28]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA03780; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 13:20:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31C96B4F.24B4@ime.net> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 11:16:31 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Clapper CC: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Broken Apache man page help needed References: <199606192243.SAA00572@telebase.com.> <31C8CE3F.70F3@ime.net> <199606201250.IAA07611@telebase.com.> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Brian Clapper wrote: > > > You seem to have time to waste wading through mailing lists, though. > Besides the Apache server isn't all that overloaded, relative to some. I wade (as you call it) through 1 (yes ONE) mailing list! -questions. And yes, I agree the apache web site is not as slow as some. Especially one of em in germany! I still like reading manuals/documents OFFLINE! and in a character based viewer! I do not pay hourly, But I like to give others at my ISP's pop the ability to logon! (Although I don't need to, There is enough ports to go around) I have since saved the complete Apache doc html to ascii (and html) locally! I'm happy! Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 10:23:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA26098 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 10:23:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA26093 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 10:23:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-19.ime.net [206.231.149.28]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA03800; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 13:20:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31C97510.1A0E@ime.net> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 11:58:08 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carlos Amengual CC: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Broken Apache man page help needed References: <31C855C3.4CFE@ime.net> <31C971D8.3A55@sadeya.cesca.es> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Carlos Amengual wrote: > > > You are "luckier" than me, as I did not get any apache man page. > Actually, After I posted that message I rememberd that I dloaded the ps docs from the apache site and stuck em in a man dir to see if I could get them to work! Of course I didn't :) duh. I was then going to try and convert them to ASCII, I hear thats not such a simple thing to do. > I suggest that you follow the advice and get the html docs from > apache.org or one of its many mirror sites. Answered to -questions earlier. TK Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 11:07:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA28061 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 11:07:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA28056 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 11:07:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com ([13.231.132.20]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <19816(6)>; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 11:04:51 PDT Received: from gnu.mc.xerox.com (gnu.sdsp.mc.xerox.com) by gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-TB) id AA12890; Thu, 20 Jun 96 14:04:15 EDT Received: by gnu.mc.xerox.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05556; Thu, 20 Jun 96 14:04:13 EDT Message-Id: <9606201804.AA05556@gnu.mc.xerox.com> To: Mark Diekhans Cc: mcs@vpm.com, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pbmplus for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 20 Jun 1996 08:15:21 PDT." <199606201515.IAA01151@Grizzly.COM> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 11:04:12 PDT From: "Marty Leisner" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <199606201515.IAA01151@Grizzly.COM>, you write: > >ftp://wuarchive.wustl.edu:/graphics/graphics/packages/NetPBM/netpbm-1mar1994.t >ar.gz > >I don't rememeber having any trouble compiling it on FreeBSD. Drop me some >mail if you have problems. > >-- >== Mark Diekhans == Has anyone patched the Imakefiles to use shared libraries? marty From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 11:08:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA28159 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 11:08:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.think.com (Mail1.Think.COM [131.239.33.245]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA28153 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 11:08:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Early-Bird-1.Think.COM by mail.think.com; Thu, 20 Jun 96 13:47:02 -0400 Received: from compound.Think.COM by Early-Bird.Think.COM; Thu, 20 Jun 96 14:08:15 EDT Received: (from alk@localhost) by compound.Think.COM (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA03785; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 13:09:46 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 13:09:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Tony Kimball Message-Id: <199606201809.NAA03785@compound.Think.COM> To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: When gcc-2.7.2 hits ctm Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How are ctm distribution units generated? From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 11:55:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA01286 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 11:55:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vpm.com ([207.49.29.143]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA01269; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 11:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by vpm.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA12057; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 11:57:58 -0700 From: Mark Stout Message-Id: <199606201857.LAA12057@vpm.com> Subject: Re: pbmplus for FreeBSD? To: markd@grizzly.com (Mark Diekhans) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 11:57:58 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606201515.IAA01151@Grizzly.COM> from "Mark Diekhans" at Jun 20, 96 08:15:21 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Mark Diekhans was seen writing" > > There is a newer release called netpbm, grab: > > ftp://wuarchive.wustl.edu:/graphics/graphics/packages/NetPBM/netpbm-1mar1994.tar.gz > > I don't rememeber having any trouble compiling it on FreeBSD. Drop me some > mail if you have problems. This compiled okay. A few warning, but that's it. If you want to see why I needed this program, check out: http://www.vpm.com/Imeter/ Imeter is a program that allows users to benchmark Internet Service Providers. By selecting certain landmarks on the Internet and adding them to a host file, produces a graph based on the benchmarks collected. Ciao, Mark -- ========================================================================== Mark Stout | The Village Potpourri Mall: http://www.vpm.com/ ---------------+---------------------------------------------------------- VPM Enterprises; P.O.Box 6427; Folsom, CA 95763-6427 Secured Web Hosting and Secured Discussion Groups Secured Internet Sales, Marketing and Advertising Specialist ========================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 11:56:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA01341 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 11:56:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seagull.rtd.com (root@seagull.rtd.com [198.102.68.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA01333 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 11:56:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tony@localhost) by seagull.rtd.com (8.7.5/1.2) id LAA04471; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 11:54:39 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 11:54:39 -0700 (MST) From: Tony Jones Message-Id: <199606201854.LAA04471@seagull.rtd.com> To: khetan@iafrica.com Subject: Re: swap problem - more information Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Khetan Gajjar (khetan@iafrica.com) wrote: : The problem is that the drive pages so often, that the machine is : unuseable. It is really, really slow. Anyone have any idea why it's so : slow or how to speed it up so that it's as fast as my swap partition ? Welcome to the world of Unix performance tuning :-) The problem isn't that the 'drive pages so often', it's paging as much as you are asking it to do :-). The problem is likely 'how' it is paging. I'm pretty sure paging on FreeBSD is round robin, so you are hitting your vnode/fs swap area constantly. Especially with the VSZ requirements you have. Going through a vnode, to the filesystem layer, to the block layer is adding at least two levels of indirection. You have just discovered that Virtual memory isn't a transparent panacea. How fast you can get blocks to/from the paging space is critical for system performance. Spinning in the idle loop because you have no runnable processes is going to hurt your performance. It's going to hurt even if the vnode/fs layers have been carefully optimised. Also, I hope you don't have the vnode/fs page file on the same spindle as the raw partition ? Rule #1 for multiple swap areas is seperate spindles. I'd be backing up and doing a disk re-org to add another swap partition on a different spindle or enlarge your current area if you have only one spindle. tony From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 12:26:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA02917 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 12:26:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from loop.com (pma3_185.loop.com [207.17.84.185]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA02912 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 12:26:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (gif@localhost) by loop.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA00266; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 12:08:39 -0700 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 12:08:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Gifka Sovereign To: DAMAN cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to unzip gzip'd files In-Reply-To: <31C88833.33AA@washington.xtn.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, DAMAN wrote: > all the ports you have are gzip'd what file do i need to uzip > them. and where can i get it from You mean the packages, right? Assuming that you have already installed FreeBSD on your system, you can use: pkg_add [filename] To install packages pkg_info [filename] To read the comment file in the archive without installing. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 13:14:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA04782 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 13:14:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mistery.mcafee.com (jimd@mistery.mcafee.com [192.187.128.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA04777 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 13:14:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jimd@localhost) by mistery.mcafee.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA06201; Sun, 20 Jun 2010 13:23:08 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <201006202023.NAA06201@mistery.mcafee.com> Subject: Re: Missing Memory & shrinking drives To: nate@sri.MT.net (Nate Williams) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 110 13:23:08 -0700 (PDT) Cc: randyd@nconnect.net, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199606201342.HAA09496@rocky.sri.MT.net> from "Nate Williams" at Jun 20, 96 07:42:00 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Greetings, > > How does FreeBSD handle the presence of the various types of viruses. > > Is it similar to the way NT handles them?? Are there any anti-virus > > utilities available for FBSD? > > 1) Unix processes aren't allowed to touch another process, so virus's > basically "don't exist". > > 2) It would be difficult to obtain a Unix virus given a source-code only > system. > > 3) Given the lack of pre-packaged binary software that comes from > outside vendors the chances of getting a virus are slim to none. > If/when FreeBSD becomes *really* popular this might become an issue, > but it isn't one yet. > > However, some vendors would lead you to believe that virus exist on > every system, so you must spend a gazillion dollars on their > virus-protection software. Don't bother. Mostly correct. Note that most PC virii are not OS specific -- they rely on the initial behaviour of the BIOS (these are boot sector virii; there are a few hundred of them like 'Stoned' and 'Michealangelo'). During startup the BIOS polls drive A:, and any other drives it finds -- then, media was detected in drive A: a typical BIOS, in typical configuration, will try to boot off of the floppy. Booting (from a floppy or otherwise) involves reading the first sector of the medium (the "boot sector" on a floppy or the "Master Boot Record" -- MBR -- on a hard drive) and executing a small chunk of loader code. (Actually it looks for a set of "signature" bytes and only executes the block if the signature is found). This small chunk of code is not part of the OS. Linux LILO, FreeBSD's BootEasy, the only Mark Williams Coherent Boot Loader, OS/2 and NT's "BootManager" (special case) are all MBR's (actually OS/2 and NT use an MBR *and* a small, proprietary, partition since their load code is too fat to fit). There are specialty products, like OnTrack's infamous Disk Manager, Golden Bow's old vfeature, and probably "System Commander" that are third-party boot loaders. Note that most boot loaders can load multiple OS'. (The basic MS DOS mbr code and the old Novell Netware 2.x "cold boot loader" are the only two that I can think of that don't recognize multiple OS'). A typical boot sector virus either moves or replaces the installed boot loader -- and copies it's code into that sector. Since this is done *before any OS is loaded* it can happen on any normal PC compatible. Typically the BSV (boot sector virus) then makes itself memory resident. This part only works for DOS, since almost any 32-bit OS, from Concurrent DOS, through Linux, FreeBSD and even OS/2 and NT, switch out of real mode and replace all interrupt service routines -- all hardwire drivers, with their own 32-bit code. Note that Win '95 is vulnerable since the 32-bit GUI is still riding on top of a 16-bit OS, and still relies and *some* chunks of "real mode" code (some BIOS functions, and some "old hardware drivers"). After years of working in the support and IS departments of the two most prominent publishers of anti-virus software (Symantec and more recently McAfee Associates) I've boiled the whole thing down to this simple statement: If you have ever seen the message: "Non-System Disk Error, Replace and hit any key to continue:" Then you *might* have a virus. If you run FreeBSD or Linux than it is unlikely that a virus can spread from your machine to anyone else's. It is likely that one can sit, undetected, indefinitely on your system -- only becoming active for a few seconds every time you reboot. If, for example, you were to catch 'Michealangelo' and you were to ever reboot on March 6th of any year -- then the virus would zero out the first 17 sectors of the first 255 tracks (upto 16 heads if I recall correctly) of your first hard drive. I pick 'Michealangelo' as an example because it is one of the few virii with a known, simple trigger, and a known, simple payload. 'Stoned' (from which 'Michealangelo' was probably derived) would simply periodically lock up the system with the message "your PC is now stoned" -- which it (some variations of it) might not attempt to do until DOS was loaded (in our hypothetical situation -- most BSV's would never trigger and never drop a payload). The point is that the usual behaviour of a BSV is to install itself in RAM, load the original boot sector (usually copied to a spare sector of track zero) and jump into that to complete the *normal* boot cycle. However that is purely a matter of programming. If you never allow DOS formatted floppies to be left in your machine's A: drive -- and you configure your CMOS/BIOS settings to skip the attempt to boot off of A: and you never run DOS on your machine (there are also some virii that are "multi-partite" -- meaning that they can infect normal .EXE or .COM binaries, *and* can infect boot records and MBR's -- and there are "droppers" trojan programs that aren't technical viruses but can "drop" a virus onto a system)....if you follow those sorts of conventions then your FreeBSD system is probably safe from viral infection. Some academics have written "Unix virus demonstrations" which are often just shell scripts. These don't propagate due to the multi-user nature of Unix. The normal, customary, practices of Unix users makes a poor population for viral propagation -- users normally only execute utilities that were installed by the administrator(s) of their system, or applications and utilities that they themselves built or installed. Relatively little software for Unix is distributed in binary form -- and the exceptions to this are often treated to extra scrutiny by administrators (obtaining them only direct from know good sites, checking sums and MD5 hashes, etc). So, as a practical point, there are not *unix* viruses. If, on the other hand, you are concerned about the possible propagation of PC viruses *from* your NFS or FTP server to other PC's -- then you might want to look at McAfee's anti-virus for Unix (available for Linux, SunOS, and Solaris -- hopefully the Linux version will run O.K. under FreeBSD's "emulation"). Sad to say I haven't had time to personally test that. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 13:27:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA05525 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 13:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from deceased.hb.north.de (deceased.hb.north.de [194.94.232.249]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA05518 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 13:27:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jelal.hb.north.de by deceased.hb.north.de with uucp (Smail3.1.93) id m0uWqJg-0016JAC; Thu, 20 Jun 96 22:27:00 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by jelal.hb.north.de (SMail-ST 0.95gcc/2.5+) id AA00101; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 22:23:46 +0100 (CET) Received: (from nox@localhost) by saturn.hb.north.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA05765; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 22:13:34 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 22:13:34 +0200 (MET DST) From: Juergen Lock Message-Id: <199606202013.WAA05765@saturn.hb.north.de> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: JDK In-Reply-To: <199606192229.PAA14356@phaeton.artisoft.com> References: <199606192210.RAA23792@meno.uchicago.edu> Organization: none Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <199606192229.PAA14356@phaeton.artisoft.com> you write: >> > I'm sure this has been asked before, but I must have missed it. Is it >> > possible to run Linux ELF binaries under the FreeBSD Linux emulation? If >> > so, how much do I need to upgrade my 2.1R setup to make it work? Want to >> > run the Java devkit, but it's all ELF. You need a -current kernel, and to get 2.1's userland working with that you need to put at *least* (i'm at -stable here, thats somewhere between 2.1 and 2.1.5) currents libkvm.so and -current executables like ps, ifconfig, netstat in your paths, as well as anything else you will be using that depends on kernel structs or other stuff that has changed. (top, xperfmon, gdb, ktrace/kdump, ncrcontrol... well just update anything you come across that stopped working :) which means you pretty much need either a running current system to copy from or the cvs tree to build them...) and actually i now have a second root fs (on another disk) that i boot from when i want to use a current kernel, with seperate lib and bin directories for the updated stuff (that otherwise not lives on the root, that way i dont have to edit paths every time i reboot the `other' kernel). Oh and for the linux JDK i also had to update parts of /compat/linux but that may no longer be necessary, it was a while ago. >> >> [clip] >> >> >Otherwise, run a non-bugfixed version (like b2), but don't go out on >> >the net with it. Re. security, even 3.0beta4 and JDK 1.0.2 still are not secure, as i've just read in RISKS (comp.risks, 18.21)... :( Juergen From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 13:29:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA05699 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 13:29:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA05693 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 13:29:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA11078; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 14:29:00 -0600 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 14:29:00 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199606202029.OAA11078@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: Jim Dennis Cc: nate@sri.MT.net (Nate Williams), questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Missing Memory & shrinking drives In-Reply-To: <201006202023.NAA06201@mistery.mcafee.com> References: <199606201342.HAA09496@rocky.sri.MT.net> <201006202023.NAA06201@mistery.mcafee.com> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jim Dennis writes: > > > > > Greetings, > > > How does FreeBSD handle the presence of the various types of viruses. > > > Is it similar to the way NT handles them?? Are there any anti-virus > > > utilities available for FBSD? [ My claim that FreeBSD isn't succeptible to virus's for multiple reasons ] > Mostly correct. Note that most PC virii are not OS specific -- > they rely on the initial behaviour of the BIOS (these are > boot sector virii; there are a few hundred of them like > 'Stoned' and 'Michealangelo'). True. But I claim that 'most' is probably too strong. Many are Boot-sector virus's. > Typically the BSV (boot sector virus) then makes itself memory > resident. This part only works for DOS, since almost any 32-bit > OS, from Concurrent DOS, through Linux, FreeBSD and even OS/2 > and NT, switch out of real mode and replace all interrupt > service routines -- all hardwire drivers, with their own 32-bit > code. Note that Win '95 is vulnerable since the 32-bit GUI is > still riding on top of a 16-bit OS, and still relies and *some* > chunks of "real mode" code (some BIOS functions, and some "old > hardware drivers"). Exactly my point. In order to get/pass the virus your OS must allow it to be passed on, and Unix doesn't allow this. So, to get a boot-sector virus chances are *very* high that it came from a DOS/Windows floppy, so you should be able to use any of the DOS/Windows software to remove it. If you have a DOS floppy you are running DOS, and can run the DOS software to remove it. :) [ Good description deleted ] > So, as a practical point, there are not *unix* viruses. > > If, on the other hand, you are concerned about the possible > propagation of PC viruses *from* your NFS or FTP server to > other PC's -- then you might want to look at McAfee's > anti-virus for Unix (available for Linux, SunOS, and Solaris -- > hopefully the Linux version will run O.K. under FreeBSD's > "emulation"). Sad to say I haven't had time to personally > test that. Good point. The Moral of the story is: "Never post a small description of a problem when you know a complete expert in the field is lurking in the wings." :) Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 13:36:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA06415 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 13:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wolf.riga.lv (wolf.riga.lv [194.8.12.90]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA06349 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 13:36:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stoat.riga.lv by wolf.riga.lv with SMTP id AA07771 (5.65.kiae-1 for ); Thu, 20 Jun 1996 23:26:23 +0300 Received: from irs.UUCP by stoat.riga.lv with UUCP id AA02168 (5.65.kiae-1 for questions@freebsd.org); Thu, 20 Jun 1996 23:31:33 +0300 Received: by irs.riga.lv (UUPC/extended 1.12r); Thu, 20 Jun 1996 23:29:22 +0200 Message-Id: <31c9c2b2.irs@irs.riga.lv> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 96 23:29:20 +0200 From: Dmitry Solodov Subject: mountd strange output To: questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: dima@irs.riga.lv X-Class: Fast X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] for OS/2 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, FreeBSD-2.1.0 is used. NSF support was enabled (in kernel, sysconfig, /etc/exports, etc), so I may mount remote directories from FreeBSD box on OS/2 machine. Also it's possible to mount remote directories from OS/2 machine on FreeBSD PC. All works as one would expect. The problem is that /etc/rc starts mountd after portmap . And during system startup call to mountd displays the following lines clnttcp_create: RCP: Program not registered clnttcp_create: RCP: Program not registered clnttcp_create: RCP: Program not registered clnttcp_create: RCP: Program not registered Could anybody explain what could be the cause and what was not done properly ? What should be done to hide/dismiss them ? Thank you in advance. Dima. -- Dmitry Solodov E-mail: dima@irs.riga.lv | fax. +371-7287659 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 14:08:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA08740 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 14:08:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from colossus.barclays.co.uk (colossus.barclays.co.uk [193.128.3.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA08730 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 14:08:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bognor.barclays.co.uk by colossus.barclays.co.uk with local SMTP (PP) id <15664-0@colossus.barclays.co.uk>; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 22:07:26 +0100 Received: from rhyl.barclays.co.uk by bognor.barclays.co.uk with BarclayNet SMTP (PP) id <00554-0@bognor.barclays.co.uk>; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 22:07:23 +0100 Received: by rhyl.barclays.co.uk (Smail3.1.28.1 #2) id m0uWqwj-00002NC; Thu, 20 Jun 96 22:07 BST Message-Id: From: Paul.Vickers@barclays.co.uk (Paul Vickers) Subject: Compaq Proliant 1500 and PCI To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 22:07:21 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anyone know how to get the PCI bus in a Compaq ProLiant 1500 to respond ? -- Paul J Vickers Paul.Vickers@barclays.co.uk Barclays Bank Plc. 70624.666@compuserve.com Radbroke Hall Knutsford Cheshire WA16 9EU From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 14:15:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA09323 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 14:15:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA09190 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 14:14:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id VAA06985; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 21:38:25 +0100 (BST) To: Mark Stout cc: questions@FreeBSD.org From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: pbmplus for FreeBSD? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 20 Jun 1996 00:18:19 PDT." <199606200718.AAA21889@vpm.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 21:38:23 +0100 Message-ID: <6983.835303103@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Mark Stout wrote in message ID <199606200718.AAA21889@vpm.com>: > Hi All: > > > Has anyone been able to get pbmplus to compile on FreeBSD? If so, mind > sharing how you did it? netpbm is available in ports. Not sure if that'll do what you want... (ports/graphics/netpbm) Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 14:15:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA09344 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 14:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyber1.cyberhall.com ([206.154.165.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA09338 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 14:15:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dbrockus@localhost) by cyber1.cyberhall.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA00600; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 16:17:36 GMT Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 16:17:36 +0000 () From: David Brockus To: FreeBSD questions Subject: disk duplexing and mirroring Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Is there anyway I can mirror or duplex drives under FreeBSD. I took a look at the ccd driver for FreeBSD web page and it stated that ccd was "alpha" quality and it only mirrors drives. I would like to duplex drives if possible and I am looking for a more stable solution. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks in advance. David Brockus From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 14:16:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA09444 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 14:16:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA09392 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 14:15:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id VAA07075; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 21:53:51 +0100 (BST) To: James Raynard cc: af@biomath.jussieu.fr, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Max first parameter of a Select call? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 Jun 1996 14:04:20 GMT." <199606191404.OAA20852@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 21:53:50 +0100 Message-ID: <7073.835304030@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk James Raynard wrote in message ID <199606191404.OAA20852@jraynard.demon.co.uk>: > However, is a copy of the types.h used in compiling the > kernel, which is where the kernel picks up its value of FD_SETSIZE > from. So a user program can never safely use FD_SETSIZE > 256 without > a kernel re-compile first! It can actually, you get get an error back if you try to set the number of FD's you want to scan (the `nfds' parameter) to be greater than the value of FD_SETSIZE when the kernel was compiled (at least, that's how -stable works, and from a quick glance -current seems the same). The real answer is to make it dynamic and dependant on a read-only sysctl variable or something ... I'm not sure if the bitmap's required by the code will be that forgiving tho :-( Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 14:55:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA13438 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 14:55:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA13413 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 14:55:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id OAA16623 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 14:54:39 -0700 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id TAA05027; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 19:23:14 GMT Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 19:23:14 GMT Message-Id: <199606201923.TAA05027@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: dima@irs.riga.lv CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <31c93aff.irs@irs.riga.lv> (message from Dmitry Solodov on Thu, 20 Jun 96 13:50:22 +0200) Subject: Re: HDD slices Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > How to recreate the slices for two my IDE drives ? # cd /dev # sh MAKEDEV wd[01]s{1, 2, 3, 4} -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 14:55:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA13558 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 14:55:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA13545 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 14:55:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id OAA16634 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 14:55:14 -0700 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id TAA05041; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 19:33:03 GMT Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 19:33:03 GMT Message-Id: <199606201933.TAA05041@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: dbabler@rigel.orionsys.com CC: wollman@lcs.mit.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Dave Babler on Thu, 20 Jun 1996 08:21:41 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: tcpdump / trafshow / ifconfig problem Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Granted, the EtherExpress 16 is an old card, but it was available and > works just fine otherwise. What NICs are highly regarded, price/performance > wise for FBSD? >From "Jordan's Picks" on http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/ I can recommend the SMC Ultra 16 controller for any ISA application and the SMC EtherPower or Compex ENET32 cards for any serious PCI based networking. Both of the PCI cards are based around DEC's DC21041 Ethernet controller chip and other cards using it, such as the Zynx ZX342 or DEC DE435, will generally work as well. Hope this helps. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 15:12:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA17466 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 15:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from synwork.com (flaq@synwork.com [199.3.234.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA17444 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 15:12:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (flaq@localhost) by synwork.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA06063 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 17:12:02 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 17:12:01 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike K." To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: ISDN Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am about to replace a 28.8 modem with a Motorola BitSurfer Pro for a 128K ISDN line and was wondering if anyone has done this and if there are any tricks or pointers I should be aware of? ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Syn-Work Media, Inc. | WWW Development & Hosting | Life Safety http://www.synwork.com | Systems Integration | CCTV mike@synwork.com | Voice/Data/Fiber | Access Control Flaq on IRC | Dukane Distributor | BICSI/RCDD ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 15:14:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA18332 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 15:14:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from praline.no.neosoft.com (praline.no.NeoSoft.COM [206.27.160.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA18318; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 15:14:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mypc.neosoft.com (gumbo-ppp-ec.no.NeoSoft.com [206.27.165.186]) by praline.no.neosoft.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA20358; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 17:14:13 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199606202214.RAA20358@praline.no.neosoft.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Conrad Sabatier" Organization: What? Me, organize? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 17:10:29 +0600 Subject: trn/inews posting problem Reply-to: conrads@neosoft.com CC: support@freebsd.org Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.30) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just recently purchased the Walnut Creek CD-ROM, built the trn 3.6 port, and am trying to figure out how to get it to post to my ISP's news server. I tried to tell the configure script for the trn build to use inews, but it complained it couldn't find it, so I went ahead and installed cnews from the packages collection. Maybe this was a mistake? inews will only accept articles locally for groups in its active file. Not what I want to do! What is the recommended way to enable trn to post articles directly to a remote server? If cnews is one of the normal solutions, what is the key to getting it to work purely as a "pass-through" mechanism. I don't want to run my own news server! :-) Thanks very much for any advice. -- Conrad Sabatier -- http://www.neosoft.com/~conrads/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 15:33:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA21458 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 15:33:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA21445 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 15:33:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA16488; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 15:30:20 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606202230.PAA16488@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Missing Memory & shrinking drives To: jimd@mcafee.com (Jim Dennis) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 15:30:19 -0700 (MST) Cc: nate@sri.MT.net, randyd@nconnect.net, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <201006202023.NAA06201@mistery.mcafee.com> from "Jim Dennis" at Jun 20, 96 01:19:18 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Some academics have written "Unix virus demonstrations" which are > often just shell scripts. These don't propagate due to the > multi-user nature of Unix. The normal, customary, practices of > Unix users makes a poor population for viral propagation -- users > normally only execute utilities that were installed by the > administrator(s) of their system, or applications and utilities that > they themselves built or installed. Relatively little software for > Unix is distributed in binary form -- and the exceptions to this are > often treated to extra scrutiny by administrators (obtaining them > only direct from know good sites, checking sums and MD5 hashes, etc). > > So, as a practical point, there are not *unix* viruses. Actually, some academics have built virus software for UNIX that glues itself onto the front of binaries and propagates from binary to binary. This type of virus depends on binaries being allowed to be larger than their header claims -- a typical result of adding support for LISP and "compiled PERL" and EMACS "dumpbin". The virus is propagated in the background and runs (and unlinks) the real binary from data from the end of its own image on startup. A UNIX virus is typically two stage based on the need to cross protection domains, and delivers multiple payloads. At least one experimental two payload virus was written to (1) put itself on as many binaries as possible while it was not on the "passwd" binary, and (2) add itself to the "passwd" binary when a binary with the virus was run as root and (3) remove itself from binaries once it was in place on the "passwd" program and (4) once in place on the "passwd" program, send a log of all new password/user pairs to a collection point. Similar payloads are possible for sendmail or inetd or other daemons that are network accessibly and run as root, and for telnetd/rlogind/ftpd/login, or other user credential authenticators. Also, it's obvious that there are group-based attacks that don't require the actual superuser to execute the binary (bin/operator/etc.). Technically, this type of attack is a virus vectored trojan insertion. It gets more complicated; you can use trojan insertion of the virus in the first place to insert your trojan into the target system. One obvious vector is key-based prebuild binary authenticators... the most prevalent of these are Netrek clients, but IRC clients, mud clients, and similar software will also work. Netscape would probably be an ideal vector, as would Doom and Quake. This is probably why Netscape discourages mirroring its distributions. An MD5 checksum of an infected program is going match the expected value on the client site. Other insertions can be made to be less obviously detectable, and work on systems which aren't EMACS/LISP/PERL compromised by taking advantage of the shared library mapping vector in the standard crt0.o to vector to PIC code added to the code segment to do the propagation/payload delivery, then act as normal startup code. These work on non self-compromised systems because they adjust the actual header information on the binary during propagation. The second type of virus is the way that the "beneficial" code compression virus operates to reduce binary size at the cost of page sharing and startup time (a well known experiment done to rationalize virus research). UNIX virii are definitely rare, but they do exist. Regards, Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 15:34:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA21522 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 15:34:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell.aros.net (root@shell.aros.net [205.164.111.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA21513 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 15:33:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from angio@localhost) by shell.aros.net (8.7.5/Unknown) id QAA18526; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 16:33:46 -0600 (MDT) From: Dave Andersen Message-Id: <199606202233.QAA18526@shell.aros.net> Subject: Re: ISDN To: flaq@synwork.com (Mike K.) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 16:33:45 -0600 (MDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Mike K." at "Jun 20, 96 05:12:01 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL13 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The only thing about it is that you need different init strings if you're using multilink PPP for two lines or normal PPP for one line.. so just create two entries if you need them. Other than that, it's.. er, plug-and-play. :) -Dave Andersen Lo and behold, Mike K. once said: > I am about to replace a 28.8 modem with a Motorola BitSurfer Pro for a > 128K ISDN line and was wondering if anyone has done this and if there are > any tricks or pointers I should be aware of? > > > ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ > Syn-Work Media, Inc. | WWW Development & Hosting | Life Safety > http://www.synwork.com | Systems Integration | CCTV > mike@synwork.com | Voice/Data/Fiber | Access Control > Flaq on IRC | Dukane Distributor | BICSI/RCDD > ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ > -- angio@aros.net Complete virtual hosting and business-oriented system administration Internet services. (WWW, FTP, email) http://www.aros.net/ http://www.aros.net/about/virtual "There are only two industries that refer to their customers as 'users'." From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 15:39:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA22262 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 15:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA22254 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 15:39:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA16505; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 15:34:55 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606202234.PAA16505@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: JDK To: toor@dyson.iquest.net (John S. Dyson) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 15:34:54 -0700 (MST) Cc: spfarrel@midway.uchicago.edu, owensc@enc.edu, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199606201352.IAA09327@dyson.iquest.net> from "John S. Dyson" at Jun 20, 96 08:52:50 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > i think i'll write to the guy. his comments on that page are quite > > revealing... that freebsd needs some more work to better handle the > > threads. anyone have more info on this? (i have no idea what the > > date is on that page, and things might have changed a lot.) > > > One thing that is on my list (and perhaps the next thing that I am > going to do) is to support true sharing of address spaces between > processes. That will allow better support of certain thread packages > as I have heard. John, before you do this, there is now a kernel threads implementation for FreeBSD (the author announced it on the SMP list). It seems to address all of the issues. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 15:43:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA22655 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 15:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA22647 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 15:43:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA16548; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 15:41:06 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606202241.PAA16548@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Compaq Proliant 1500 and PCI To: Paul.Vickers@barclays.co.uk (Paul Vickers) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 15:41:06 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Paul Vickers" at Jun 20, 96 10:07:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Anyone know how to get the PCI bus in a Compaq ProLiant 1500 > to respond ? Run -current. -stable may also work. Contact Stefan if you have additional problems after that, since he is the keeper of the PCI flame, and knows it backwrad and forward. If you want to run with it on 2.1R or earlier, I think you are out of luck, since PCI-PCI bridging wasn't supported, and Compaq BIOS lies about their PCI 2.0 compliance. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 15:51:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA23164 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 15:51:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay2.UU.NET (relay2.UU.NET [192.48.96.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA23153 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 15:51:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vivid.autometric.com by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: vivid.autometric.com [198.49.5.66]) id QQauzb10755; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:51:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from khan by vivid.autometric.com via ESMTP (950215.SGI.8.6.10/920502.SGI) for <@vivid.autometric.com:questions@FreeBSD.org> id SAA22348; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:51:39 -0400 Received: by khan (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) for questions@FreeBSD.org id SAA16593; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:51:38 -0400 From: "John Ko" Message-Id: <9606201851.ZM16591@khan.autometric.com> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:51:38 -0400 In-Reply-To: Narvi "" (Jun 18, 9:11pm) References: Reply-To: jko@vivid.autometric.com X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.2 10apr95 MediaMail) To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: DEC 21140 PCI network card driver Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have 2.2 SNAP intalled in a P6 with Cogent EM400 which is a four port 100BaseT (i.e. four EM100). Does anyone out there have any experience with any cogent products with FreeBSD or Linux? The driver if_de.c does work with the EM400 because I think the driver doesn't know about four port 21140 chips (it does recognize four port 21040 chips). BTW, I've got Linux's tulip driver to ping with EM400 but no ftp. I've sent email to the author, but it seems he's unavailable. thanks for any help jko From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 16:17:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA24997 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 16:17:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA24987 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 16:17:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA05087; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:16:37 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu: jfieber owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:16:36 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber X-Sender: jfieber@Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu To: steve farrell cc: terry@lambert.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: JDK In-Reply-To: <199606192210.RAA23792@meno.uchicago.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, steve farrell wrote: > also, what exactly is the status of running JDK for linux on FreeBSD. > does it happen with -current? Yup. There are some DNS problems, but that may just be something misconfigured in my linux emulation. -john == jfieber@indiana.edu =========================================== == http://fallout.campusview.indiana.edu/~jfieber ================ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 16:22:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA25341 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 16:22:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA25336 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 16:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA05100; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:22:23 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu: jfieber owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:22:22 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber X-Sender: jfieber@Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu To: questions@freebsd.org cc: "Andrew N. Edmond" Subject: Re: SIMM stackers? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 20 Jun 1996, Andrew N. Edmond wrote: > Anybody have problems with these SIMM stackers? Closely related, anybody have problems with 30 -> 72 pin converters? I'm pondering a new motherboard (ASUS P55T2P4) and have 32 megabytes of 30 pin SIMMs that I'd sure like to recycle. > I am not too sure of the technology but haven't heard anything good or bad > about them. Running FreeBSD 2.1-stable (may 07th). I've heard some talk about buffered versus unbuffered, but nothing really conclusive. -john == jfieber@indiana.edu =========================================== == http://fallout.campusview.indiana.edu/~jfieber ================ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 16:38:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA26138 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 16:38:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cube.i-pi.com (cube.i-pi.com [198.49.217.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA26131 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 16:37:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ingham@localhost) by cube.i-pi.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA00786 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 17:36:06 -0600 Message-Id: <199606202336.RAA00786@cube.i-pi.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Kenneth Ingham Date: Thu, 20 Jun 96 17:36:04 -0600 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: I want PPP to stay up all the time Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk OS: FreeBSD 2.1. I'm have a full-time (modem) ppp connection to the internet. I'd like the link to stay up all the time. What happens now with both kernel and user PPP is that if the link drops (i.e. due to a noisy phone line), it stays down. I've gone over the man pages and the FreeBSD Handbook and have found nothing that seems to help. I would dig through the source, but my CD drive is dead (but under warranty, so will eventually be replaced). I have tried both user and kernel ppp. Any suggestions? Kenneth Ingham ingham@i-pi.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 16:52:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA26820 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 16:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tulpi.interconnect.com.au (root@tulpi.interconnect.com.au [192.189.54.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA26792 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 16:51:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ahill@localhost) by tulpi.interconnect.com.au id JAA13667 (8.7.4/IDA-1.6); Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:51:33 +1000 (EST) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:51:33 +1000 (EST) From: Anthony Hill To: Mark Stout cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pbmplus for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <199606200718.AAA21889@vpm.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 20 Jun 1996, Mark Stout wrote: > Hi All: > > > Has anyone been able to get pbmplus to compile on FreeBSD? If so, mind > sharing how you did it? I used the port of netpbm from the ports collection. > Is there anything else that would be comparable that I could use as a > replacement? Netpbm is derived from pbmplus. > This is for a program I have to determine ISP connectivity metrics > and graphs the metrics over time. It uses pbmplus. PBMPLUS - A toolkit > for converting image formats. Yeah - its good for this kind of thing. > Anybody have any ideas? This used to be at > http://www.acme.com/software/pbmplus, but that was back in '91, so it's > old to say the least. Netpbm is based on the 91 version of pbmplus, but has apparently been enhanced somewhat since then. Have fun.. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 17:07:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA28151 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 17:07:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.iafrica.com (root@chain.iafrica.com [196.7.74.174]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA28111 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 17:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (khetan@localhost) by chain.iafrica.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA02630 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 02:06:59 +0200 (SAT) X-Authentication-Warning: chain.iafrica.com: khetan owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 02:06:57 +0200 (SAT) From: Khetan Gajjar To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: swap problem - more information Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 20 Jun 1996, Tony Jones wrote: >Welcome to the world of Unix performance tuning :-) :-( >The problem isn't that the 'drive pages so often', it's paging as much >as you are asking it to do :-). The problem is likely 'how' it is paging. Aha. >I'm pretty sure paging on FreeBSD is round robin, so you are hitting your >vnode/fs swap area constantly. Especially with the VSZ requirements you have. Hmmm. Yeah, was wondering why it hits both at the same time. Now I have a question for you - I've setup my machine so that the first drive is a Win95 machine, and my second drive is a FreeBSD machine. I've installed the boot manager (and don't ask me how I got it to work, I dunno myself) and I get an option when I start up, f1 for DOS, f5 for other drive. I hit f5, and then f1 for freebsd, f5 for other drive. I hit f1, and hey presto, freebsd. I've decided to ditch Win95; however how can I retain the boot manager, yet get the drive to boot off the second drive without stuffing up the entire setup ? >Going through a vnode, to the filesystem layer, to the block layer is adding >at least two levels of indirection. You have just discovered that Virtual Hmm. Would explain why it's so *slow*. >It's going to hurt even if the vnode/fs layers have been carefully optimised. Which I dunno how to do. >Also, I hope you don't have the vnode/fs page file on the same spindle as the >raw partition ? Rule #1 for multiple swap areas is seperate spindles. Same spindle (i am afraid). >I'd be backing up and doing a disk re-org to add another swap partition >on a different spindle or enlarge your current area if you have only one >spindle. See my query above. Or, how do I decrease the size of one of my freebsd partitions and add that space to the swap partition ? Regards, Khetan Gajjar. --- http://www.iafrica.com/~khetan/ UUNet-Internet Africa Operations - 0800-030-002 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 17:14:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA28637 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 17:14:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Kryten.nina.com (dyn049-gnv.51.fdt.net [205.229.51.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA28617 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 17:13:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from frankd@localhost) by Kryten.nina.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id UAA13374; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 20:09:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 20:09:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Frank Seltzer X-Sender: frankd@Kryten.nina.com To: Kenneth Ingham cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I want PPP to stay up all the time In-Reply-To: <199606202336.RAA00786@cube.i-pi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 20 Jun 1996, Kenneth Ingham wrote: > OS: FreeBSD 2.1. > > I'm have a full-time (modem) ppp connection to the internet. I'd like the > link to stay up all the time. What happens now with both kernel and user PPP > is that if the link drops (i.e. due to a noisy phone line), it stays down. Have you tried the -auto switch to user ppp? This is how I maintain a full-time link to the net. ppp -auto Works fine. > Kenneth Ingham > ingham@i-pi.com Frank -- Only in America can a homeless veteran sleep in a cardboard box while a draft dodger sleeps in the White House. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 17:16:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA28791 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 17:16:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apollo.gti.net (boog@apollo.gti.net [199.171.27.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA28786 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 17:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (boog@localhost) by apollo.gti.net (8.7.5/8.7.6) with SMTP id UAA08736 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 20:16:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 20:16:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Interview w/ a boog To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: apache setup Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk sorry to bother, but i am in need of help in getting apache to work... have tried editing the .conf files, but the httpd daemon does not start upon boot...i also don't know where to place the line for starting the httpd daemon which is something like this - /usr/local/www/server/httpd -f /usr/local/www/server/conf/httpd.conf which is given in the instructions for compiling and installing apache... if anyone can help it is GREATLY appreciated. please e-mail back to boog@gti.net thanks Gary From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 18:14:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA02139 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:14:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA02098; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:14:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id AAA05791; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 00:34:52 GMT Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 00:34:52 GMT Message-Id: <199606210034.AAA05791@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: gpalmer@freebsd.org CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <7073.835304030@palmer.demon.co.uk> (message from Gary Palmer on Thu, 20 Jun 1996 21:53:50 +0100) Subject: Re: Max first parameter of a Select call? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [Note Cc: line changed - this should probably move to -hackers] > > However, is a copy of the types.h used in compiling the > > kernel, which is where the kernel picks up its value of FD_SETSIZE > > from. So a user program can never safely use FD_SETSIZE > 256 without > > a kernel re-compile first! > > It can actually, you get get an error back if you try to set the > number of FD's you want to scan (the `nfds' parameter) to be greater > than the value of FD_SETSIZE when the kernel was compiled (at least, > that's how -stable works, and from a quick glance -current seems the > same). Yep, that's what I said - 256 is the value of FD_SETSIZE that's compiled into the kernel by default. So you have to re-compile the kernel if you want a higher value. 8-) > The real answer is to make it dynamic and dependant on a read-only > sysctl variable or something ... Yes! (The real problem being that there's too much information compiled statically into the kernel here). > I'm not sure if the bitmap's required by the code will be that > forgiving tho :-( I don't see why this should cause problems for the internals of select() - can't ibits and obits be dynamically allocated, based on our sysctl variable, and the rest of the code altered to accommodate? There's a definite problem with FD_ZERO() and friends though, as they depend on FD_SETSIZE through NFDBITS. Actually, we could probably get them to reference the sysctl variable as well, though we might need to re-write them as functions instead of macros... -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 18:18:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA02461 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:18:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA02261 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:15:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id NAA01735; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 13:37:39 GMT Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 13:37:39 GMT Message-Id: <199606201337.NAA01735@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: dbabler@Rigel.orionsys.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Dave Babler on Wed, 19 Jun 1996 16:22:01 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: tcpdump / trafshow / ifconfig problem Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [re ix0] > Is this the driver's gentle way of telling me it can't be placed into > promiscuous mode? (I've also tried trafshow -p) Apparently so. I remember there was an exchange on one of the lists recently about whether this is a bug in the driver or the card, but I'm afraid I've forgotten the outcome. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 18:18:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA02510 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mistery.mcafee.com (jimd@mistery.mcafee.com [192.187.128.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA02504 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:18:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jimd@localhost) by mistery.mcafee.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA06494; Sun, 20 Jun 2010 18:27:24 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <201006210127.SAA06494@mistery.mcafee.com> Subject: Re: Missing Memory & shrinking drives To: nate@sri.MT.net (Nate Williams) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 110 18:27:24 -0700 (PDT) Cc: jimd@mcafee.com, nate@sri.MT.net, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606202029.OAA11078@rocky.sri.MT.net> from "Nate Williams" at Jun 20, 96 02:29:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Jim Dennis writes: > > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > How does FreeBSD handle the presence of the various types of viruses. > > > > Is it similar to the way NT handles them?? Are there any anti-virus > > > > utilities available for FBSD? > > [ My claim that FreeBSD isn't succeptible to virus's for multiple reasons ] > > > Mostly correct. Note that most PC virii are not OS specific -- > > they rely on the initial behaviour of the BIOS (these are > > boot sector virii; there are a few hundred of them like > > 'Stoned' and 'Michealangelo'). > > True. But I claim that 'most' is probably too strong. Many are > Boot-sector virus's. I was a bit unclear on this point. Most virii are file infectors (about 7,000 known depending on who you ask and how they count them). Most infections (by a huge margin) are via the boot sector. Way over 90% of all confirmed infections in the AV tech support teams at McAfee and at Symantec (a year and a half ago when I was there) were BSV's. Most of those were simple BSV and not even multi-partite. So, to elaborate my original statement: PC's running various 32-bit OS', including Free/Net/Open/386-BSD and Linux, are technically as susceptible to the most prolific virii as PC's running DOS. Your PC can catch the bug -- even though the bug won't often propagate beyond it. I like to explain this to people using the phrase PC virus (i.e. those that rely on the BIOS) rather than DOS virus (file infectors that are specific to DOS and DOS emulators). This is not a standard terminology -- just a point of clarification. > Exactly my point. In order to get/pass the virus your OS must allow it > to be passed on, and Unix doesn't allow this. > > So, to get a boot-sector virus chances are *very* high that it came from > a DOS/Windows floppy, so you should be able to use any of the > DOS/Windows software to remove it. If you have a DOS floppy you are > running DOS, and can run the DOS software to remove it. :) Agreed. You can use your DOS tools to remove it -- Usually you can use FDISK /MBR (or the appropriate 'dd' command or sysinstall) to remove most MBR BSV's, use DOS' SYS command (or the equivalent) to fix the logical boot record (there's one MBR per drive, and on LBR per partition). Note that many DOS emulators (like merge, and dosemu, and SoftPC/SoftWindows) can "catch" PC/DOS viruses and infect the emulated MBR/LBR and executable files on their (partition| virtual volumes|whatever your brand x calls it). Basically a virus is just a program. Any emulator that's sufficiently powerful to run a reasonable range of DOS programs is powerful enough to "catch" a virus. > > Good point. > > The Moral of the story is: > "Never post a small description of a problem when you know a complete > expert in the field is lurking in the wings." :) I'd hardly consider myself an expert -- but I do play one on the 'net. Actually the sad news (for some) is that I'm going to be leaving (this list for now and this company for ....). I'll probably sign back into this list from another account (once I get my uucp feed working from rahul). > Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 18:19:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA02590 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:19:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA02501 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id NAA01729; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 13:33:23 GMT Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 13:33:23 GMT Message-Id: <199606201333.NAA01729@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: mcs@vpm.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199606200718.AAA21889@vpm.com> (message from Mark Stout on Thu, 20 Jun 1996 00:18:19 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: pbmplus for FreeBSD? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Has anyone been able to get pbmplus to compile on FreeBSD? If so, mind > sharing how you did it? Isn't that part of netpbm? If so, you'll find it under graphics in the ports (or you can just grab the package if you're in a hurry). -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 18:21:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA02990 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:21:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA02973 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:21:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id OAA01782; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 14:23:31 GMT Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 14:23:31 GMT Message-Id: <199606201423.OAA01782@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: sbakshi@washington.xtn.net CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <31C88833.33AA@washington.xtn.net> (message from DAMAN on Wed, 19 Jun 1996 18:07:31 -0500) Subject: Re: how to unzip gzip'd files Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > all the ports you have are gzip'd what file do i need to uzip > them. and where can i get it from The tools needed to unzip things are gunzip (for .gz files) and tar (for .tar files), both of which are supplied with the base FreeBSD system. In fact, tar can do both in one go, given the right arguments. However, you presumably want to compile and install them rather than just extract the original, unported source code. Fortunately, the FreeBSD ports mechanism does all the hard work for you. A detailed explanation is at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/ under 'The ports collection', but here's a quick overview. To do this, you need to set up a ports 'skeleton'. You can do this very easily, making use of ftp.freebsd.org's on-the-fly tar-and-zip feature which allows you to grab a directory and its contents in one go. Assuming you don't already have one, here's how to do this if you're interested in, say the foobar program in the audio directory in ports:- # cd /usr # mkdir -p ports/audio # cd ports/audio # ftp ftp.freebsd.org [log in as anonymous and give your email address as the password] > cd /the/ports/base/directory/audio > get foobar.tar.gz [grab the foobar skeleton] > quit # tar xzf foobar.tar.gz [extract the foobar skeleton] # cd foobar # make install At this point, a number of things will happen:- 1. The original source code will be extracted from the /usr/ports/distfiles directory. If it's not there, it will be pulled down by FTP. (You can also set it up to get it from a FreeBSD CDROM fairly easily). 2. Any configuration and/or patching needed to get the program to work on FreeBSD will be performed. 3. The source will be compiled and installed. 4. The packages database keeps a record of all the files added, so if you decide foobar is not the greatest thing since sliced bread after all, you can remove it cleanly by something like 'pkg_delete foobar-4.9'. If you don't want the source lying around and cluttering up your system, you can now do 'make clean' to remove it. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 18:51:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA05027 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:51:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from glacier.wise.edt.ericsson.se (glacier-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se [193.180.251.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA05022 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:51:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from egg.lmc.ericsson.se (egg.lmc.ericsson.se [142.133.32.1]) by glacier.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.7.5/8.7.3/glacier-0.9) with SMTP id DAA13105; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 03:51:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from chicago.lmc.ericsson.se by egg.lmc.ericsson.se (4.1/LME-2.2) id AA01183; Thu, 20 Jun 96 21:51:19 EDT Received: (from lmcsato@localhost) by chicago.lmc.ericsson.se (8.7/8.7) id VAA05881; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 21:50:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 21:50:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Samy Touati X-Sender: lmcsato@chicago To: "Mike K." Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ISDN In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have the setting you're describing. At the begining I had configurations problems, but I get those resolved. My problems were mainly bad connection with cisco router with mlppp. Now motorola issued an upgrade to fix compatibility problems with cisco. Your bitsurfr pro will accept the same setting as your modem: at&d2&c1 Samy On Thu, 20 Jun 1996, Mike K. wrote: > I am about to replace a 28.8 modem with a Motorola BitSurfer Pro for a > 128K ISDN line and was wondering if anyone has done this and if there are > any tricks or pointers I should be aware of? > > > ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ > Syn-Work Media, Inc. | WWW Development & Hosting | Life Safety > http://www.synwork.com | Systems Integration | CCTV > mike@synwork.com | Voice/Data/Fiber | Access Control > Flaq on IRC | Dukane Distributor | BICSI/RCDD > ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ > > From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 19:02:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA05665 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 19:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riverside.mr.net (root@Riverside.MR.Net [137.192.2.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA05658 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 19:02:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from galileo.mr.net by riverside.mr.net (8.7.5/SMI-4.1.R931202) id VAA18285; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 21:02:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from black@localhost) by galileo.mr.net (8.7.2/8.7.2) id VAA15243 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 21:02:24 -0500 (CDT) From: Ben Black Message-Id: <199606210202.VAA15243@galileo.mr.net> Subject: LFS anyone? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 21:02:23 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME7a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is anyone using LFS and if so how well does it work and how do I newfs a partition to support it? Thanks, Ben From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 19:23:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA06786 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 19:23:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mnemosyne.muse.com.au (router.muse.com.au [203.26.7.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA06778 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 19:23:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from www@localhost) by mnemosyne.muse.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA00256; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:22:15 +1000 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:22:14 +1000 (EST) From: Richard Beyer To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: My CDROM disappeared. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Newbie question. Anyone seen this happen before? My CDROM disappeared between boots, and I didn't change anything. Jun 19 12:06:28 mnemosyne /kernel: wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa Jun 19 12:06:48 mnemosyne /kernel: wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): Jun 19 12:06:48 mnemosyne /kernel: wd0: 1222MB (2503872 sectors), 2484 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S Jun 19 12:06:48 mnemosyne /kernel: wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa Jun 19 12:06:48 mnemosyne /kernel: wdc1: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, iordy Jun 19 12:06:48 mnemosyne /kernel: wcd0: 500Kb/sec, 512Kb cache, 512 volume levels, caddy Jun 19 12:06:49 mnemosyne /kernel: wcd0: 120mm audio disc loaded mount /cdrom works fine here. Jun 19 17:02:58 mnemosyne /kernel: wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa Jun 19 17:02:58 mnemosyne /kernel: wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): Jun 19 17:02:58 mnemosyne /kernel: wd0: 1222MB (2503872 sectors), 2484 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S Jun 19 17:02:58 mnemosyne /kernel: wdc1 not found at 0x170 mount /cdrom: device not configured. With no device or kernel changes in between. I'm at a loss. ??Relevent kernel entries: ############################### controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 vector wdintr disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 vector wdintr disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus device wcd0 #IDE CD-ROM /etc/fstab contains the following line. /dev/wcd0c /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto 0 0 Cheers, Richard. .......................................................................... Muse Productions P/L If you could be as life to me WWW : http://www.muse.com.au/ And I your love be death Email : inspired@muse.com.au A kiss would serve to set you free Phone : +61 03 347098 And steal your final breath Fax : +61 03 347270 .......................................................................... From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 19:44:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA08698 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 19:44:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crooow.wcupa.edu (crooow.wcupa.edu [144.26.15.139]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA08693 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 19:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pschwenk@localhost) by crooow.wcupa.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA04344; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 22:42:29 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 22:42:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Schwenk To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Adding a new hard disk Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello everyone, I know this has been discussed many times before, but I really don't understand the fdisk and disklabel process involved with preparing a new hard disk for use. I've been using FreeBSD for quite some time now, but never was required to mess with this stuff, sysinstall did it for me. Now I am adding a SCSI drive to an existing FreeBSD 2.1.0-on-IDE-drive setup, and, having come from the dullard world of DOS, I don't quite get what I'm supposed to do. It's probably terminology that's bogging me down. Here's the specifics. I hope someone will be patient with me and push me in the right direction. The computer: HP Vectra VL4-90MHz Pentium w/ 56MB of RAM Quantum Bigfoot 2.5GB IDE HD on onboard controller Adaptec AHA-2940UW SCSI controller Seagate AT410800W Fast-Wide SCSI-2 HD (~9GB) Panasonic/Creative Labs CDROM on a SB16 card I heard that trying to install FreeBSD 2.1.0 onto an IDE disk while a SCSI disk was present fails because of some bug in the install program. That's why I unplugged the SCSI card during the installation with the intention of adding it later. The kernel sees the SCSI card and disk, but I'm now stuck at the point where I need to "partition" the SCSI disk, and that's where I get lost. I don't know what function the fdisk and disklabel programs perform. I want to split the disk into probably two "partitions" (I'm mired in DOS-think) so they can be newfs'ed with different parameters. Could someone please describe how I am to proceed? I've read the FAQ discussion on this topic, but I found myself more confused. If there is better documentation, please point me toward it. I'll greatly appreciate any help you may provide. Thanks in advance. - Peter Schwenk, Academic Computing, West Chester University of PA - pschwenk@wcupa.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 20:01:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA09838 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 20:01:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA09830 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 20:01:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id WAA10713; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 22:00:22 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199606210300.WAA10713@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: JDK To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 22:00:22 -0500 (EST) Cc: spfarrel@midway.uchicago.edu, owensc@enc.edu, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199606202234.PAA16505@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at Jun 20, 96 03:34:54 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > John, before you do this, there is now a kernel threads implementation > for FreeBSD (the author announced it on the SMP list). It seems to > address all of the issues. > Just FTP'ed it down, if it is the inna? stuff? Will review and if it is good, will integrate it into my working code. At that point, I'll ask those that do "thread things" to review it... Unless someone else wants to take the effort on? John From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 21:38:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA16294 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 21:38:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x1.boston.juno.com (x1.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.21]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA16289 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 21:38:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fadorno@juno.com) by x1.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id AAA05223; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 00:38:32 EDT To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 19:10:23 PST Subject: Device Drivers for Adaptec 2920 pci card and NEC SCSI 4x CD-Rom Message-ID: <19960620.213810.9854.0.fadorno@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.00 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1 From: fadorno@juno.com (Fred Adorno) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Any support for these hardwares? I'm not about to lower my standards to work with the devices that are currently being offered. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 22:18:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA19238 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 22:18:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA19231 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 22:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id WAA17547; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 22:13:00 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606210513.WAA17547@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: JDK To: toor@dyson.iquest.net (John S. Dyson) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 22:12:59 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, spfarrel@midway.uchicago.edu, owensc@enc.edu, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199606210300.WAA10713@dyson.iquest.net> from "John S. Dyson" at Jun 20, 96 10:00:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > John, before you do this, there is now a kernel threads implementation > > for FreeBSD (the author announced it on the SMP list). It seems to > > address all of the issues. > > Just FTP'ed it down, if it is the inna? stuff? Yes, it is. > Will review and if it is good, will integrate it into my working code. > At that point, I'll ask those that do "thread things" to review it... > Unless someone else wants to take the effort on? You're the best integrator, unless you trust his code. I'll certainly review it (after I help Jeffrey track down the integration panic's for the Lite2 code, which is what I have planned this weekend). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jun 20 22:32:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA20188 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 22:32:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.hp.com (relay.hp.com [15.255.152.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA20181 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 22:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hpautobo.aus.hp.com by relay.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA011035142; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 22:32:23 -0700 Message-Id: <199606210532.AA011035142@relay.hp.com> Received: by hpautobo.aus.hp.com (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA164155140; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:32:20 +1000 From: M C Wong Subject: gifbuilder equivalent for FreeBSD ? To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org (freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 96 15:32:18 EST Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Can someone tell me if there exists any tool for FreeBSD or UNIX in general that creates animated GIF files like gifbuilder on the Mac ? What are the best tools we have for FreeBSD for now ? Thanks in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 00:03:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA27936 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 00:03:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ritsec3.com.eg (RITSEC3.COM.EG [163.121.2.103]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA27930 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 00:03:26 -0700 (PDT) From: mngroup@ritsec3.com.eg Received: by ritsec3.com.eg (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA26183; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:02:14 +0300 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:02:14 +0300 Message-Id: <9606210702.AA26183@ritsec3.com.eg> To: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2.3.7 BETA X-Personal_Name: Samy Tahan Subject: FreeBSD and DASH Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear Sir, How can i make the FreeBSD recognize my Ditto Tape running from the accelerating card "Ditto DASH accelerating card" with 2Mbps, so i can install, upgrade, and use my tapes. thanks for your time From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 00:11:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA28277 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 00:11:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from csd.cs.technion.ac.il (csd.cs.technion.ac.il [132.68.32.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA28270 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 00:11:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nadav@localhost) by csd.cs.technion.ac.il (8.6.11/8.6.10) id KAA13492; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:10:01 +0300 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:10:01 +0300 (IDT) From: Nadav Eiron X-Sender: nadav@csd To: Richard Beyer cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: My CDROM disappeared. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 21 Jun 1996, Richard Beyer wrote: > > Newbie question. > > Anyone seen this happen before? My CDROM disappeared between boots, and > I didn't change anything. > [snip] I have this (in a very similar configuration, a fireball disk and an EIDE CDROM on the same controller). It used to happen only after "warm" boots (i.e. if you don't physicaly turn the machine off). It also got my CDROM locked (it wouldn't open its tray when FreeBSD doesn't recognize it). I attributed that to the "alpha quality" of the wcd driver, or some hardware problems. The lock-up is so bad that even if you boot another OS (I tried win95) in that situation, without turning the machine off, it wouldn't recognize the drive either. Are your symptoms the same? If so, just cold-boot your machine, it worked for me. > Cheers, > > Richard. Nadav From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 00:17:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA28492 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 00:17:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x1.boston.juno.com (x1.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.21]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA28473; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 00:17:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fadorno@juno.com) by x1.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DAA25164; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 03:17:11 EDT To: lithium@cia-g.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 00:17:26 PST Subject: Re: Device Drivers for Adaptec 2920 pci card and NEC SCSI 4x CD-Rom Message-ID: <19960621.001727.3150.0.fadorno@juno.com> References: X-Mailer: Juno 1.00 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,2-23,32 From: fadorno@juno.com (Fred Adorno) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 20 Jun 1996 23:01:21 -0600 (MDT) Stephen Fisher writes: > >One of my machines runs off of an Adaptec 2940 great. That same >machine >also has a SONY CDU-76S 4x SCSI drive that works great. I'm not sure >about the NEC being supported - try asking >freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org >mailing list. > >On Thu, 20 Jun 1996, Fred Adorno wrote: > >> Any support for these hardwares? I'm not about to lower my >standards to >> work with the devices that are currently being offered. > > > - Steve > - Systems Manager > - Community Internet Access > - http://www.cia-g.com > > Steve, it doesn't surprise me that your box is running fine with the Adaptec card, but it so happens that we do have a SCSI Device Support for that card that you have. The drivers on our box does not have a device driver for my particular type of card. However, I did notice that the last line in my kernel stated "pci0....driver not loaded" which tells me it knows that I have a card sitting on my pci bus, but it doesn't know what to do with it. This card came with device drivers for win 95, os2, netware, unix. I'm not sure, but I'm going to try installing the drivers for unix environment and see what happens. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 00:34:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA29258 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 00:34:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aztec.co.za (aztec.co.za [196.7.70.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA29253 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 00:34:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pcmgate.pcm.co.za [196.3.254.241] by aztec.co.za with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0uX0i2-000arbC; Fri, 21 Jun 96 09:32 EET Received: from irvinep5 (irvinep5.pcm.co.za [196.3.226.90]) by pcmgate.pcm.co.za (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA08270; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:34:26 +0200 Message-Id: <199606210734.JAA08270@pcmgate.pcm.co.za> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Irvine Short" Organization: Professional Computer Manufacturers To: John Fieber , "Andrew N. Edmond" , questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:22:26 +2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: SIMM stackers? Reply-to: ishort@pcm.co.za X-Confirm-Reading-To: ishort@pcm.co.za X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.30) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ive used the 4x30pin to 72 pin adapters quite successfully both with 486 and pentium boards. I've not come across any ones with buffers. > Anybody have problems with these SIMM stackers? > > Closely related, anybody have problems with 30 -> 72 pin > converters? I'm pondering a new motherboard (ASUS P55T2P4) and > have 32 megabytes of 30 pin SIMMs that I'd sure like to recycle. > > > I am not too sure of the technology but haven't heard anything good or bad > > about them. Running FreeBSD 2.1-stable (may 07th). > > I've heard some talk about buffered versus unbuffered, but > nothing really conclusive. Regards, Irvine Short http://www.pcm.co.za/homepage/ishort/irv_home.html Technical Support Professional Computer Manufacturers Cape Town, South Africa Tel: ++27-21-235084 Fax ++27-21-235089 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 01:21:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA01401 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 01:21:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgate.nation-net.com (www.nation-net.com [194.159.125.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA01389 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 01:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from w14.winecellar.co.uk (194.159.125.14) by mailgate.nation-net.com with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.0); Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:22:49 +0000 Message-ID: <31CA5B48.78B1@nation-net.com> Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:20:24 +0100 From: Paul Walsh X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Aliases troubles Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I had 2 aliases running perfectly OK. Since adding more , only alias1 will ping! Any ideas? Regards, Paul # # Set to the list of route add lines for this host. You must have a # route_${static_routes} line for each static route listed here. # static_routes="multicast alias1 alias2 alias3 alias4 alias5 alias6 alias7 alias8 alias9 alias10 loopback" route_multicast="224.0.0.0 -netmask 0xf0000000 -interface ${hostname}" route_loopback="${hostname} localhost" ######## paul 30.4.96 backup sysconfig.1st ### # network interface aliases interface_aliases="ed0" alias_ed0="alias 194.159.125.23 alias 194.159.125.24 alias 194.159.125.25 alias 194.159.125.26 alias 194.159.125.27 alias 194.159.125.28 alias 194.159.125.29 alias 194.159.125.30 alias 194.159.125.2 alias 194.159.125.21" route_alias1="194.159.125.23 127.0.0.1" route_alias2="194.159.125.24 127.0.0.1" route_alias3="194.159.125.25 127.0.0.1" route_alias4="194.159.125.26 127.0.0.1" route_alias5="194.159.125.27 127.0.0.1" route_alias6="194.159.125.28 127.0.0.1" route_alias7="194.159.125.29 127.0.0.1" route_alias8="194.159.125.30 127.0.0.1" route_alias9="194.159.125.2 127.0.0.1" route_alias10="194.159.125.21 127.0.0.1" ################################################ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 03:12:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA05808 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 03:12:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.PDD.3Com.com (gatekeeper.pdd.3com.com [193.130.120.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA05798 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 03:12:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from isolan.pdd.3com.com by gatekeeper.PDD.3Com.com; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:12:39 +0100 Message-Id: <4495.9606211008@isolan.pdd.3com.com> Received: from crane.biccdn.uucp by isolan.pdd.3com.com; Fri, 21 Jun 96 11:08:50 BST To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD and the Standard Template Library. Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:12:25 +0100 From: David Clear Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The current version of libg++ apparently includes libstdc++, the "library facilities defined by the forthcoming ANSI/ISO C++ standard, including a port of the Standard Template Library." Will this be included with the next release of FreeBSD? Cheers, Dave. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 03:45:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA06985 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 03:45:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA06979 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 03:45:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id DAA03081; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 03:44:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606211044.DAA03081@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: David Clear cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and the Standard Template Library. In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:12:25 BST." <4495.9606211008@isolan.pdd.3com.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@root.com Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 03:44:23 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >The current version of libg++ apparently includes libstdc++, the "library >facilities defined by the forthcoming ANSI/ISO C++ standard, including >a port of the Standard Template Library." > >Will this be included with the next release of FreeBSD? No, we won't be updating this in -stable (which is where the next release will come from). There is a very good chance that this and other GNU software will be updated in the -current sources, however, in the not-too-distant future. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 03:55:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA07459 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 03:55:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA07453 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 03:55:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id KAA10335; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:17:18 +0100 (BST) To: Paul Walsh cc: questions@freebsd.org From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Aliases troubles In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:20:24 BST." <31CA5B48.78B1@nation-net.com> Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:17:17 +0100 Message-ID: <10333.835348637@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Paul Walsh wrote in message ID <31CA5B48.78B1@nation-net.com>: > static_routes="multicast alias1 alias2 alias3 alias4 alias5 alias6 alias7 > alias8 alias9 alias10 loopback" > route_multicast="224.0.0.0 -netmask 0xf0000000 -interface ${hostname}" > route_loopback="${hostname} localhost" > ######## paul 30.4.96 backup sysconfig.1st ### > # network interface aliases > interface_aliases="ed0" > alias_ed0="alias 194.159.125.23 alias 194.159.125.24 alias 194.159.125.25 > alias 194.159.125.26 alias 194.159.125.27 alias 194.159.125.28 alias > 194.159.125.29 alias 194.159.125.30 alias 194.159.125.2 alias 194.159.125.21" UGH You shouldn't need all those routes. Just add `netmask 0xffffffff' to the end of the alias_ed0 line. Certainly worked for me in my test setup here. That should allow to lose all thost routes. (that is assuming of course that the IP address of the ed0 card is on the same subnet as the aliases...) Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 04:00:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA07810 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 04:00:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA07801 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 04:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id LAA10490; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:58:23 +0100 (BST) To: David Clear cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: FreeBSD and the Standard Template Library. In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:12:25 BST." <4495.9606211008@isolan.pdd.3com.com> Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:58:22 +0100 Message-ID: <10488.835354702@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk David Clear wrote in message ID <4495.9606211008@isolan.pdd.3com.com>: > The current version of libg++ apparently includes libstdc++, the "library > facilities defined by the forthcoming ANSI/ISO C++ standard, including > a port of the Standard Template Library." > > Will this be included with the next release of FreeBSD? The next release of FreeBSD will be 2.1.5, and is due within a month, so no, it won't be in that release. It will (more likely be) in 2.2.0, which is due out at the end of the year (approx). There is a planned integration of GCC 2.7.2 and an updated libg++ soon into -current. If you need that functionality and don't mind running -current, that may be a solution. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 04:16:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA09051 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 04:16:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from central.picker.com (central.picker.com [144.54.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA09043 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 04:16:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by central.picker.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0uX4As-0004rpC; Fri, 21 Jun 96 07:14 EDT Received: from elmer.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20316; Fri, 21 Jun 96 07:14:10 EDT Received: by elmer.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA01118; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 07:15:40 -0400 From: rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper) Message-Id: <199606211115.HAA01118@elmer.picker.com> Subject: Re: HDD slices To: fqueries@jraynard.demon.co.uk (James Raynard) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 07:15:36 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606201923.TAA05027@jraynard.demon.co.uk> from "James Raynard" at Jun 20, 96 07:23:14 pm Reply-To: rhh@ct.picker.com Organization: Picker International, CT Division X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> How to recreate the slices for two my IDE drives ? > ># cd /dev ># sh MAKEDEV wd[01]s{1, 2, 3, 4} If you mean DOS partitions, that the slices already exist with file systems, and you just want to create the FreeBSD /dev entries for mounting purposes: /dev/wd0s1 - Primary DOS slice on disk 0 /dev/wd0s5 - Extended DOS slice on disk 0 /dev/wd1s1 - Primary DOS slice on disk 1 /dev/wd1s5 - Extended DOS slice on disk 1 You'll need to MAKEDEV the s5 entries. cd /dev sh MAKEDEV wd0s5 sh MAKEDEV wd1s5 if you need them. If you physically want to recreate the slices, you'll need to re-FDISK your disk to create them (DOS or FreeBSD FDISK), disklabel (if FreeBSD partition), and then put the desired file system on them first. Randall Hopper rhh@ct.picker.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 04:31:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA10091 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 04:31:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA10085 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 04:31:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id MAA10587; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:30:10 +0100 (BST) To: Paul Walsh CC: questions@freebsd.org From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Aliases troubles In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:17:17 BST." <10333.835348637@palmer.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:30:08 +0100 Message-ID: <10585.835356608@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gary Palmer wrote in message ID <10333.835348637@palmer.demon.co.uk>: > Paul Walsh wrote in message ID > <31CA5B48.78B1@nation-net.com>: > > interface_aliases="ed0" > > alias_ed0="alias 194.159.125.23 alias 194.159.125.24 alias 194.159.125.25 > > alias 194.159.125.26 alias 194.159.125.27 alias 194.159.125.28 alias > > 194.159.125.29 alias 194.159.125.30 alias 194.159.125.2 alias 194.159.125.21" Whoops. Your real problem (sorry) is that you can only specify one alias per ifconfig invocation... The netmask comment still stands tho. (that's why only the first alias works...) Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 04:51:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA10945 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 04:51:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from amtsun.amt.ru (amtsun.amt.ru [194.58.253.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA10932 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 04:50:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alex.amt.ru (alex.amt.ru [194.58.253.55]) by amtsun.amt.ru (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA13561 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:49:04 +0400 (MSD) Received: by alex.amt.ru with Microsoft Mail id <01BB5F89.6CC18240@alex.amt.ru>; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:50:52 +-400 Message-ID: <01BB5F89.6CC18240@alex.amt.ru> From: Alexander Goltsov To: "'questions@FreeBSD.org'" Subject: CDROM Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:50:49 +-400 Encoding: 19 TEXT Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear Sirs, I have got small question about using CDROM drives with the FreeBSD. I have got PC Compaq Presario 520 with IDE controller and I have got CDROM drive Matsushita/Panasonic CR571 which is installed as a slave. But FreeBSD cannot recognise it. In the release notes I found in the list of the supported CDROMs that: (wcd) ATAPI IDE inteface (experemental and should be considered ALPHA quality). What does that mean? And could you please give me advise which CDROM should I buy if it is not possible for this CD-ROM. My FreeBSD version is FreeBSD 2.2 SNAPSHOT March 23, 1996. Best Regards Alexander Goltsov From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 05:48:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA13281 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 05:48:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA13273 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 05:48:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uX5bJ-000Qc6C; Fri, 21 Jun 96 14:46 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA10944; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:36:14 +0200 Message-Id: <199606210936.LAA10944@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: Can FreeBSD 2.1 generate executables for BSDI? To: bwithrow@BayNetworks.com (Robert Withrow) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:36:14 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606190013.UAA27443@tuva.engeast.baynetworks.com> from "Robert Withrow" at Jun 18, 96 08:13:26 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Robert Withrow writes: > > Can I convince FreeBSD to generate a static image that > BSDI can be persuaded to run? Or is this a one-way > street into FreeBSD? Only if you use the BSDI tools. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 05:49:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA13381 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 05:49:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uswgco2.uswc.uswest.com (uswgco2.uswest.com [206.196.133.74]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA13376 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 05:49:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by uswgco2.uswc.uswest.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id GAA10077 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 06:49:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from egate.mnet.uswest.com(151.116.23.138) by uswgco2.uswc.uswest.com via smap (V1.3) id sma010070; Fri Jun 21 06:49:21 1996 Received: from easthub (easthub.mnet.uswest.com [151.117.26.86]) by egate.mnet.uswest.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id GAA06837 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 06:49:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by easthub.mnet.uswest.com (M-Net Hub.951228) Received: by acs.uswest.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA02911; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 07:49:19 -0500 Received: from astro.acs.uswest.com by acs.uswest.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA02904; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 07:49:14 -0500 Received: by astro.acs.uswest.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA02157; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 07:48:59 -0500 From: ptroot@uswest.com (Paul T. Root) Message-Id: <199606211248.HAA02157@astro.acs.uswest.com> Subject: Re: Adding a new hard disk To: pschwenk@crooow.wcupa.edu (Peter Schwenk) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 07:48:59 -0500 (CDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Peter Schwenk" at Jun 20, 96 10:42:28 pm X-Organization: !nterprise Networking Services X-Phone: (612) 663-1979 X-Fax: (612) 663-8030 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 200 S. 5th St., Suite 1100 X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55402 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In a previous message, Peter Schwenk said: > > Hello everyone, > > I know this has been discussed many times before, but I really don't > understand the fdisk and disklabel process involved with preparing a new > hard disk for use. I've been using FreeBSD for quite some time now, but > never was required to mess with this stuff, sysinstall did it for me. > Now I am adding a SCSI drive to an existing FreeBSD 2.1.0-on-IDE-drive > setup, and, having come from the dullard world of DOS, I don't quite get > what I'm supposed to do. It's probably terminology that's bogging me > down. Here's the specifics. I hope someone will be patient with me and > push me in the right direction. I just did this last night, with my SyQuest drive. And I used sysinstall to do it. Steps: 1) start sysinstall (from /stand) as root. 2) Go to 'Custom' menu 3) Go to 'Partition' menu It will then give you a choice of the disks on the system. 4) Choose the new disk, then create the fdisk info on it. (ie make DOS and FreeBSD slices). I make it a complete FreeBSD disk since its a removable disk. 5) Do a write (W) then quit (Q). 6) Then go into the 'Label' menu, and create a partion in the FreeBSD slice. 7) Do a write and quit. Then exit out of sysinstall. 8) Do a newfs on the raw partition. That's it! Paul. -- Paul T. Root - USWEST !NTERPRISE Networking Service ptroot@uswest.com Ruht Row! -- Astro, (the Jetsons) From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 05:50:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA13448 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 05:50:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA13427 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 05:50:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uX5bK-000QcAC; Fri, 21 Jun 96 14:46 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA10935; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:34:22 +0200 Message-Id: <199606210934.LAA10935@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: Adding a new hard disk To: pschwenk@crooow.wcupa.edu (Peter Schwenk) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:34:22 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Peter Schwenk" at Jun 20, 96 10:42:28 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Peter Schwenk writes: > > Hello everyone, > > I know this has been discussed many times before, but I really don't > understand the fdisk and disklabel process involved with preparing a new > hard disk for use. I've been using FreeBSD for quite some time now, but > never was required to mess with this stuff, sysinstall did it for me. > Now I am adding a SCSI drive to an existing FreeBSD 2.1.0-on-IDE-drive > setup, and, having come from the dullard world of DOS, I don't quite get > what I'm supposed to do. It's probably terminology that's bogging me > down. Here's the specifics. I hope someone will be patient with me and > push me in the right direction. > > The computer: > HP Vectra VL4-90MHz Pentium w/ 56MB of RAM > Quantum Bigfoot 2.5GB IDE HD on onboard controller > Adaptec AHA-2940UW SCSI controller > Seagate AT410800W Fast-Wide SCSI-2 HD (~9GB) > Panasonic/Creative Labs CDROM on a SB16 card > > I heard that trying to install FreeBSD 2.1.0 onto an IDE disk while a > SCSI disk was present fails because of some bug in the install program. > That's why I unplugged the SCSI card during the installation with the > intention of adding it later. The kernel sees the SCSI card and disk, > but I'm now stuck at the point where I need to "partition" the SCSI disk, > and that's where I get lost. I don't know what function the fdisk and > disklabel programs perform. I want to split the disk into probably two > "partitions" (I'm mired in DOS-think) so they can be newfs'ed with > different parameters. > > Could someone please describe how I am to proceed? I've read the FAQ > discussion on this topic, but I found myself more confused. If there is > better documentation, please point me toward it. I'll greatly appreciate > any help you may provide. Thanks in advance. I'm currently (slowly) working on changing my writeup on disk installation to SGML so we can include it in the handbook. In the meantime, you could pick up the file ftp::/freefall.freebsd.org/incoming/disks.ps.gz and have a look at it. If you find anything wrong or confusing, please let me know so that I can improve it. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 06:27:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA15026 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 06:27:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uswgco2.uswc.uswest.com (uswgco2.uswest.com [206.196.133.74]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA15012 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 06:27:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by uswgco2.uswc.uswest.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id HAA10778 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 07:26:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from egate.mnet.uswest.com(151.116.23.138) by uswgco2.uswc.uswest.com via smap (V1.3) id sma010752; Fri Jun 21 07:26:34 1996 Received: from easthub (easthub.mnet.uswest.com [151.117.26.86]) by egate.mnet.uswest.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id HAA07584 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 07:26:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: by easthub.mnet.uswest.com (M-Net Hub.951228) Received: by acs.uswest.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA03786; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 08:26:31 -0500 Received: from astro.acs.uswest.com by acs.uswest.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA03757; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 08:26:21 -0500 Received: by astro.acs.uswest.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA02436; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 08:26:14 -0500 From: ptroot@uswest.com (Paul T. Root) Message-Id: <199606211326.IAA02436@astro.acs.uswest.com> Subject: Transferring drive from Solaris 2.4 to FreeBSD To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 08:26:13 -0500 (CDT) X-Organization: !nterprise Networking Services X-Phone: (612) 663-1979 X-Fax: (612) 663-8030 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 200 S. 5th St., Suite 1100 X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55402 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a couple of SyQuest EZ135 drives, one on my Sparc Tadpole (Solaris 2.4) at work and one on my 486 FreeBSD box at home. The drive works great on both boxes, and the obvious next step is to have both machines use the same disk so I can move 100 Meg at a time without using the 28.8 line. Is this possible? I configured the disk on FreeBSD to not interoperate with other OSs on the PC. Which I read to mean that It ignores fdisk stuff and just writes to the whole disk. But that still wouldn't mount on my Sparc. Anybody have an idea on this? Thanks, Paul. -- Paul T. Root - USWEST !NTERPRISE Networking Service ptroot@uswest.com Manhattan - from the Delaware Indian's, meaning "A place where we all got Drunk. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 06:31:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA15440 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 06:31:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.Clark.Net (mail.clark.net [168.143.0.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA15434 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 06:31:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clark.net (root@clark.net [168.143.0.7]) by mail.Clark.Net (8.7.3/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA19283; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:31:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from clark.net (markus@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clark.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id JAA26255; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:31:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199606211331.JAA26255@clark.net> To: Kenneth Ingham cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I want PPP to stay up all the time In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 20 Jun 1996 17:36:04 MDT." <199606202336.RAA00786@cube.i-pi.com> Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:31:27 -0400 From: Mark Plummer Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > OS: FreeBSD 2.1. > > I'm have a full-time (modem) ppp connection to the internet. I'd like the > link to stay up all the time. What happens now with both kernel and user PPP > is that if the link drops (i.e. due to a noisy phone line), it stays down. > > I've gone over the man pages and the FreeBSD Handbook and have found nothing > that seems to help. I would dig through the source, but my CD drive is dead > (but under warranty, so will eventually be replaced). > > I have tried both user and kernel ppp. > > Any suggestions? > > Kenneth Ingham > ingham@i-pi.com hey, i use a script which pings the far side of the connection (or something which is always reachable if the connection is up). if the connection is down, it restarts ppp automatically. i run it from cron every five minutes. here it is... #!/bin/sh PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin ipaddr="$1" # which ip address to check for basic connectivity ppptag="$2" # which tag in ppp.conf to use to redial pppline=`ps -axu | grep "[p][p][p][) ]"` if [ ! -z "$pppline" ] ; then if ping -c 10 $ipaddr 2> /dev/null | grep -q "100% packet loss" ; then ppppid=`echo $pppline | awk '{print $2}'` kill $ppppid sleep 3 ppp $ppptag > /dev/null 2>&1 & fi else ppp $ppptag > /dev/null 2>&1 & fi -- Mark Plummer, markus@clark.net, +1 410 796 1272 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 06:43:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA15977 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 06:43:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from starfire.mn.org (root@starfire.skypoint.net [199.86.32.187]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA15968 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 06:43:13 -0700 (PDT) From: john@starfire.mn.org Received: (from john@localhost) by starfire.mn.org (8.6.12/1.1) id IAA00626 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 08:43:10 -0500 Message-Id: <199606211343.IAA00626@starfire.mn.org> Subject: SCSI weirdness To: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 08:43:09 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Having extended and maintained SCSI adapter firmware, and having used logic probes on SCSI adapters and buses, and having run SCSI bus analysers, (none of that sophisticated hardware is available to me right now, unfortunately), I once used to pretend to myself that I knew something about SCSI devices and operation. My current situation seems to be proving that a sham. Trying to describe the symptoms and behaviors and the complicated history is not appropriate in this forum, nor an effective use of bandwidth, but if there's anyone out there who wants to try to dig into this one with me, or who can suggest a more appropriate forum, I'd be very pleased. There may turn out to be some interactions with the FreeBSD SCSI implementation, which is one reason why I started here. John Lind, Starfire Consulting Services E-mail: john@starfire.MN.ORG USnail: PO Box 17247, Mpls MN 55417 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 07:02:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA16570 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 07:02:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.think.com (Mail1.Think.COM [131.239.33.245]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA16565 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 07:02:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Early-Bird-1.Think.COM by mail.think.com; Fri, 21 Jun 96 09:40:51 -0400 Received: from compound.Think.COM by Early-Bird.Think.COM; Fri, 21 Jun 96 10:02:07 EDT Received: (from alk@localhost) by compound.Think.COM (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA08816; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:03:57 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:03:57 -0500 (CDT) From: Tony Kimball Message-Id: <199606211403.JAA08816@compound.Think.COM> To: nate@sri.MT.net Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Missing Memory & shrinking drives (the moral) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The Moral of the story is: "Never post a small description of a problem when you know a complete expert in the field is lurking in the wings." :) Quite the contrary. The moral of the story is that unless you post your own knowledge, partial or mistaken though it may be, it is unlikely that an expert will ever post to correct errors or fill in gaps, and as a result we all are less educated. Your less complete posting on the subject was the message which prompted the more complete reply, and thus you bear partial responsibility for the more complete reply as well, for which I thank you as well as its poster. It is often humbling to be educated. It should never be humiliating. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 08:42:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA20809 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 08:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vince.avalon.rs.net (vince.avalon.rs.net [198.32.4.160]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA20804 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 08:42:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from svincent@localhost) by vince.avalon.rs.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA00194; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 01:40:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 01:40:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Subramaniam Vincent To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: nfs client issues Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I had raised a user level question wrongly on the hackers list instead of this one. It concerned the FreeBSD nfs client having permission problems acessing files on a "secure" NFS sun server. It was solved using the mount_nfs command with the -P option. I think its good to include this is tne FAQ (did I miss it there too!?) Vince From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 09:16:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA21983 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:16:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from info.infosite.com (root@info1.infosite.com [165.90.185.49]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA21977 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:16:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cslye@localhost) by info.infosite.com (8.7.5/beast-1.0) id LAA10174 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 20 Jun 1996 11:07:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Cameron Slye Message-Id: <199606201807.LAA10174@info.infosite.com> Subject: pppd To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 11:07:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am having a problem with pppd. Have looked through the handbook etc, still cant seem to get it going... Have tried a few things... Now user mode PPP (interative mode) works, and finds the IP right off... But I would like to use pppd because this is a 24x7 connection.. Following are a few logs.. Jun 20 10:41:18 info pppd[9942]: pppd 2.1.2 started by root, uid 0 Jun 20 10:41:18 info pppd[9943]: Using interface ppp0 Jun 20 10:41:18 info pppd[9943]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyd1 Jun 20 10:41:18 info pppd[9943]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 ] Jun 20 10:41:18 info pppd[9943]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 ] Jun 20 10:41:18 info pppd[9943]: sent [LCP ConfNak id=0x1 ] Jun 20 10:41:18 info pppd[9943]: rcvd [LCP ConfNak id=0x1 ] Jun 20 10:41:18 info pppd[9943]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x2 ] Jun 20 10:41:45 info last message repeated 9 times Jun 20 10:41:48 info pppd[9943]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests Jun 20 10:42:33 info login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv3 Jun 20 10:42:33 info login: login on ttyv3 as root Jun 20 10:43:11 info pppd[9943]: Terminating link. Jun 20 10:43:11 info pppd[9943]: Connection terminated. Jun 20 10:43:11 info pppd[9943]: Exit User root Peer [startup] 113 seconds Now for the stty settting on the device... speed 115200 baud; lflags: -icanon -isig -iexten -echo iflags: -icrnl -ixon -ixany -imaxbel ignbrk -brkint ignpar oflags: -opost -onlcr -oxtabs cflags: cs8 -parenb -hupcl clocal crtscts Have tried diffrent bauds, with and without crtscts, and others... /etc/ppp/options file following... crtscts /dev/cuaa1 165.90.185.49:165.90.138.28 passive domain infosite.com defaultroute debug Thanks for any info! From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 09:20:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA22130 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:20:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA22124 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA08344; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:20:04 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu: jfieber owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:20:04 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber X-Sender: jfieber@Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu To: Interview w/ a boog cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apache setup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 20 Jun 1996, Interview w/ a boog wrote: > upon boot...i also don't know where to place the line for starting the > httpd daemon which is something like this - > /usr/local/www/server/httpd -f /usr/local/www/server/conf/httpd.conf One way is to put it in /etc/rc.local. -john == jfieber@indiana.edu =========================================== == http://fallout.campusview.indiana.edu/~jfieber ================ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 09:25:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA22427 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout00.btx.dtag.de (mailout00.btx.dtag.de [194.25.2.148]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA22414 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:25:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ermail02.btx.dtag.de ([172.16.35.3]) by mailout00.btx.dtag.de with smtp (S3.1.29.1) id ; Fri, 21 Jun 96 18:01 MET DST Received: by ermail02.btx.dtag.de with (S3.1.29.1) id ; Fri, 21 Jun 96 18:00 MET DST Message-Id: Date: Fri, 21 Jun 96 18:00 +0100 From: dss-gmbh@t-online.de (DSS) X-Sender: 0451499714-0001@t-online.de (Data-Service GmbH) Subject: COBOL compiler with FreeBSD To: questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk We have started with FreeBSD 2.1 and everything works fine. One problem remains: we have 500 COBOL-programs and do not know if there is a COBOL-compiler available for FreeBSD. We have tried ACUCOBOL and MicroFocus, but it does not work. Perhaps you can give us a hint ? A translator cobol2c would be also o.k. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 09:47:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA23313 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:47:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webster (webster.idcd.com [207.104.208.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA23308 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by webster (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA05530; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:38:01 -0700 Message-Id: <31CACFE9.16D0@idcd.com> Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:38:01 -0700 From: Lloyd Vancil X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: cdefs.h and bitypes.h X-Url: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk These files are called by netdb.h from UCSB I am attempting to compile latest sendmail on solaris 2.4 sparc 10 Is this a real need? Thanks L. Ps here is error Making in obj.SunOS.5.4.sun4 gcc -I. -O -I/usr/sww/include -DNDBM -DNIS -DNISPLUS -DSOLARIS=204 -c alias.c In file included from conf.h:54, from sendmail.h:64, from alias.c:35: /usr/include/netdb.h:66: sys/bitypes.h: No such file or directory /usr/include/netdb.h:68: sys/cdefs.h: No such file or directory make: *** [alias.o] Error 1 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 09:49:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA23405 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:49:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA23400 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:49:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.2]) by ref.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA12966 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:48:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-9.ime.net [206.231.149.18]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA15344; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:47:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31CAD25B.7B18@ime.net> Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:48:27 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tony Kimball CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Missing Memory & shrinking drives (the moral) References: <199606211403.JAA08816@compound.Think.COM> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Tony Kimball wrote: > > The Moral of the story is: > "Never post a small description of a problem when you know a complete > expert in the field is lurking in the wings." :) > > Quite the contrary. The moral of the story is that unless you post > your own knowledge, partial or mistaken though it may be, it is > unlikely that an expert will ever post to correct errors or fill in > gaps, and as a result we all are less educated. Your less complete > posting on the subject was the message which prompted the more complete > reply, and thus you bear partial responsibility for the more complete > reply as well, for which I thank you as well as its poster. > Yup, And we would of missed an educational (to some of us) read if Jim hadn't been tickled by Nate. > It is often humbling to be educated. It should never be humiliating. How true it is, Criticism can be recieved in two ways. Constructive or Destructive! It's up to the person recieving it to take it as they will! (With a little help from the sender) As an education or a flame! -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 09:58:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA23936 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:58:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA23931 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:58:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA18503; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:55:44 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606211655.JAA18503@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Transferring drive from Solaris 2.4 to FreeBSD To: ptroot@uswest.com (Paul T. Root) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:55:43 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606211326.IAA02436@astro.acs.uswest.com> from "Paul T. Root" at Jun 21, 96 08:26:13 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have a couple of SyQuest EZ135 drives, one on my Sparc Tadpole (Solaris 2.4) > at work and one on my 486 FreeBSD box at home. The drive works great on > both boxes, and the obvious next step is to have both machines use the > same disk so I can move 100 Meg at a time without using the 28.8 line. > > Is this possible? I configured the disk on FreeBSD to not interoperate > with other OSs on the PC. Which I read to mean that It ignores fdisk > stuff and just writes to the whole disk. But that still wouldn't mount > on my Sparc. > > Anybody have an idea on this? This is an interesting issue that I can't do anything about for a while. My knee-jerk response is that we will want to recognize the Sun disklabel format using logical to physical device translation (label-to-device/offset/range vnode conversion)... which needs DEVFS. >From there, it's a pretty trivial (but not yet implemented) hack to to make the BSD FFS handle Sun volumes, specifically default value areas for the "spare" fields for ACL management, to make that all happy. Part of it is a byte-order issue, part of it is a bit definition issue. I'm somewhat antsy about the DEVFS as it currently exists because of the way root mounts are handled; I'd like to preferentially handle the DEVFS as an intrinsic mount relative to the root, and then union mount the real root on top of that. This allows support of the symlink constructs that everyone is whining about, without munging the DEVFS itself. It also deals with a couple of chroot issues that are unresolved with DEVFS, at this time. One potential workaround, for the near term, would be to deal with the volumes as DOSFS volumes. This leaves a bad taste in your mounth, but it *will* work as a workaround, for now. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 10:07:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA24663 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:07:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA24652 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:07:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA18523; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:04:20 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606211704.KAA18523@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: COBOL compiler with FreeBSD To: dss-gmbh@t-online.de (DSS) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:04:20 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "DSS" at Jun 21, 96 06:00:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > We have started with FreeBSD 2.1 and everything works fine. One problem > remains: we have 500 COBOL-programs and do not know if there is a > COBOL-compiler available for FreeBSD. We have tried ACUCOBOL and > MicroFocus, but it does not work. Perhaps you can give us a hint ? > A translator cobol2c would be also o.k. Actually, I have to admit to a certain fondness for the idea of having a COBOL compiler available, if for no other reason than to support the massive amount of legacy code out there, and for the ability to have verifiability, even if it means that the language limits the complexity of the algorithms you can encode in it. I don't know about ACUCOBOL or MicroFocus, since I'm not sure of how their development environment works. I thought that the RM/COBOL (Ryan-McFarland) compiler came with its own linker and produced IBCS2 binaries. If this is the case, then it should be possible to use the SCO UNIX version on FreeBSD under emulation. If anyone knows about a cobol2c precompiler, I'd be real interested in seeing that come in as a package on FreeBSD. I think I saw (a long time ago on wuarchive.wustl.edu) a COBOL to Ada precompiler... and there *IS* an Ada compiler (GNU Ada) for FreeBSD, so maybe that would do it for you? I'm not sure it handled the COBOL-85 extensions... Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 10:14:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA25211 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:14:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Kryten.nina.com (dyn060-gnv.51.fdt.net [205.229.51.61]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA25204 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:14:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from frankd@localhost) by Kryten.nina.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id NAA24924; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 13:10:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 13:10:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Frank Seltzer X-Sender: frankd@Kryten.nina.com To: Cameron Slye cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pppd In-Reply-To: <199606201807.LAA10174@info.infosite.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 20 Jun 1996, Cameron Slye wrote: > /dev/cuaa1 Try this line instead of the one above. It is what I have in my ppp.options file. modem # modem control line Everything else looks OK to me. Frank -- Only in America can a homeless veteran sleep in a cardboard box while a draft dodger sleeps in the White House. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 10:24:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA26036 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:24:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA26014 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by ref.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA00359 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:23:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id SAA13351; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 18:07:49 +0100 (BST) To: ptroot@uswest.com (Paul T. Root) cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Transferring drive from Solaris 2.4 to FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 21 Jun 1996 08:26:13 CDT." <199606211326.IAA02436@astro.acs.uswest.com> Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 18:07:47 +0100 Message-ID: <13348.835376867@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Paul T. Root wrote in message ID <199606211326.IAA02436@astro.acs.uswest.com>: > I have a couple of SyQuest EZ135 drives, one on my Sparc Tadpole (Solaris 2.4 > ) > at work and one on my 486 FreeBSD box at home. The drive works great on > both boxes, and the obvious next step is to have both machines use the > same disk so I can move 100 Meg at a time without using the 28.8 line. Even if you got SPARC to use PC partitioning, you can't get a SPARC to read i386 filesystems ... the byte sex bites again (UFS/FFS is based on a large number of structures, which are asuumed to never be needed in anything other than processor byte order). About the only way I can think of is to use something like tar to dump to the EZ135 catridge like a tape and cart that back and forth (since tar is a byte stream, no byte sex problems). Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 10:41:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA29973 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:41:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hod.tera.com (hod.tera.com [206.215.142.67]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA29960 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:41:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from athena.tera.com (athena.tera.com [206.215.142.62]) by hod.tera.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA04515; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:39:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Kline Received: (from kline@localhost) by athena.tera.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA15153; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:39:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606211739.KAA15153@athena.tera.com> Subject: Re: LFS anyone? To: black@MR.Net (Ben Black) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:39:54 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606210202.VAA15243@galileo.mr.net> from Ben Black at "Jun 20, 96 09:02:23 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Ben Black: > Is anyone using LFS and if so how well does it work and how do I newfs a > partition to support it? > > I'll second this question and follow up by asking if anyone can post some information about the FFS and the Log Filesystem. ((Does the LFS exist in the BSD world?)) Seems like the LFS would make fsck's obsolete. Yes? No? Clues? gary kline > > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 10:46:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA00686 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:46:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x1.boston.juno.com (x1.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.21]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA00675; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:46:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fadorno@juno.com) by x1.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id NAA23440; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 13:46:22 EDT To: gibbs@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:46:05 PST Subject: Adaptec 2920 and NEC CDR-222 (4x SCSI) Message-ID: <19960621.104606.3150.0.fadorno@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.00 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-5,7-8,10 From: fadorno@juno.com (Fred Adorno) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I read in the book that you are in charge of the SCSI subsystem. I like to know if you are working on a device drivers that will work with the Adaptec 2920. I get this message at the end of the kernel: "pci0:19:vendor=0x1036, device=0x0000, class=storage (scsi) [no driver assigned]" Any suggestions or quick fixes? I am a newbie, so I wouldn't know how to write a device driver. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 10:48:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA01172 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:48:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from actcom.co.il (root@actcom.co.il [192.114.47.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA01076; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:48:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dinosaur by actcom.co.il with SMTP (8.6.12/actcom-0.1) id UAA12725; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 20:48:08 +0300 (rfc931-sender: denis@p13.ta1.actcom.co.il [192.115.23.43]) Message-ID: <31CAEEE1.7E3459D9@actcom.co.il> Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 20:50:09 +0200 From: denis X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (X11; I; Linux 2.0.0 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, help-gcc@prep.ai.mit.edu, linux-il@hagiga.jct.ac.il, linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu, linux-activists@niksula.hut.fi, linux-gcc@vger.rutgers.edu, linux-multicast@www.linux.org.uk, linux-net@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Dynamically Allocatable Name Service (DANS) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, folks. The idea I would like to propose is not platform dependent or something, The reason I addressed it to all those lists in the header is my desire to gain more auditory. I want to write a name server with dynamical updates and all binary database. (Actually I'm writing it) I know, that there is dynamical updates support in the existing BIND distribution, but it seems to me like fixing a rocket motor to the bike. I think that simply not everyone understands the potential of the server like this. One of possible usages might be providing a constant look to dynamic IP addresses given by ISP server. An ISP server, connecting someone to the net and giving him an IP address, might also register this address on it's name server(s) under the constant for every client NAME. In this case an ISP machine might be configur- ed to be a postmaster for the zone and make spooling of all mail until the clients' machines connect and forward it to them. I won't describe here why it is usefull to have constant address instead of dynamical. Might be in the future all (excluding might be a few) hosts on the net will have dynamically allocated addresses (because Inet address space not too big (only 4 bilions and someth.:)considering the fact that there are folks on the net who have more then one Inet address, and in this case such DNS will be of use. Pointless to remind that there are DNS databases which have huge amount of entries and it is more & more dificult to maintain them (as for server to lookup, so for human to update). That is why I propose to make it's database binary. Let the computer to do all the updating work. Listen, I look for participants in this project (code & ideas contributors), so if anyone knows someone who would like to help.. They are welcome! Regards, Denis -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Denis Kopylenko, Tel Aviv, Israel. Unix System Programmer in | | Algorithmic Research Ltd. Data Protection Solutions. | | OSF1, IRIX, Linux, FreeBSD | +----------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 10:49:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA01523 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:49:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mistery.mcafee.com (jimd@mistery.mcafee.com [192.187.128.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA01512 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jimd@localhost) by mistery.mcafee.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id KAA07068; Mon, 21 Jun 2010 10:58:49 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <201006211758.KAA07068@mistery.mcafee.com> Subject: Re: Missing Memory & shrinking drives (the moral) To: tcg@ime.net Date: Mon, 21 Jun 110 10:58:48 -0700 (PDT) Cc: alk@Think.COM, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31CAD25B.7B18@ime.net> from "Gary Chrysler" at Jun 21, 96 12:48:27 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Tony Kimball wrote: > > > > The Moral of the story is: > > "Never post a small description of a problem when you know a complete > > expert in the field is lurking in the wings." :) > > > > Quite the contrary. The moral of the story is that unless you post > > your own knowledge, partial or mistaken though it may be, it is > > unlikely that an expert will ever post to correct errors or fill in > > gaps, and as a result we all are less educated. Your less complete > > posting on the subject was the message which prompted the more complete > > reply, and thus you bear partial responsibility for the more complete > > reply as well, for which I thank you as well as its poster. > > Yup, And we would of missed an educational (to some of us) read > if Jim hadn't been tickled by Nate. > > > It is often humbling to be educated. It should never be humiliating. Besides -- I mostly agreed with Nate. I'd seen the original message and saved it in my inbox as something to respond to -- but first I had to see to some of the details of training my replacement here, and handling some of the transition. My main concern was that someone on the list might actually get burned by this situation and have greater trouble isolating and solving a viral problem. We do get a few calls a week from users of Linux (and presumably FreeBSD'ers) and other *ix's that have gotten infected. (I don't know the actual numbers since I'm not in support -- but my girlfriend, who was in support until a couple of months ago, was the recognized site expert on "other OS'" -- so I heard about some of them). Besides -- I wanted to plug our Unix scanners. One misconception that I like to avoid about our ports of McAfee's SCAN to Unix is that there is some widespread Unix virus threat. Our UVSCAN (Unix Virus SCAN products) currently scan for DOS/PC virii only. The product is intended to protect your DOS/Windows clients by running the scanner on your NFS and FTP servers. (Unfortunately I've been too embroiled in expanding our infrastructure -- going from 2 FTP servers, and one mail and one web server on a single T1 to 3 FTP servers (with 10* the previous capacity) in a DNS round robin ring, three mail servers, an internal webserver, an external webserver (with Commerce capabilities) and a T3 + *four* internet bound T1's -- to actually do more than a cursory review of the newest versions of SCAN). (Incidentally I may be available for some consulting in a couple weeks -- I'll have .forward's from here). Jim Dennis, former System Administrator, McAfee Associates From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 10:54:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA02914 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riverside.mr.net (root@Riverside.MR.Net [137.192.2.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA02870 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:54:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from galileo.mr.net by riverside.mr.net (8.7.5/SMI-4.1.R931202) id MAA19355; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:54:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from black@localhost) by galileo.mr.net (8.7.2/8.7.2) id MAA15764; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:54:12 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:54:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Ben Black Message-Id: <199606211754.MAA15764@galileo.mr.net> To: black@MR.Net, kline@tera.com Subject: Re: LFS anyone? Cc: questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-MD5: Hn/e1To8eHz4/fO5abBJrQ== Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk There is plenty of documentation about LFS in the PhD thesis of it's author. She implemented it for 4.4BSD. I was more concerned with practical issues of code stability and initializing an LFS partition. Ben black@mr.net > According to Ben Black: > > Is anyone using LFS and if so how well does it work and how do I newfs a > > partition to support it? > > > > > > I'll second this question and follow up by asking if > anyone can post some information about the FFS and the > Log Filesystem. ((Does the LFS exist in the BSD world?)) > > Seems like the LFS would make fsck's obsolete. Yes? No? > > Clues? > > gary kline > > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 10:57:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA03912 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:57:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hod.tera.com (hod.tera.com [206.215.142.67]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA03898 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:57:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from athena.tera.com (athena.tera.com [206.215.142.62]) by hod.tera.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA04881; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:55:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Kline Received: (from kline@localhost) by athena.tera.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA15178; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:55:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606211755.KAA15178@athena.tera.com> Subject: Re: COBOL compiler with FreeBSD To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:55:55 -0700 (PDT) Cc: dss-gmbh@t-online.de, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606211704.KAA18523@phaeton.artisoft.com> from Terry Lambert at "Jun 21, 96 10:04:20 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Terry Lambert: [ ... ] > > > I don't know about ACUCOBOL or MicroFocus, since I'm not sure of how > their development environment works. > > I thought that the RM/COBOL (Ryan-McFarland) compiler came with its > own linker and produced IBCS2 binaries. If this is the case, then > it should be possible to use the SCO UNIX version on FreeBSD under > emulation. > > If anyone knows about a cobol2c precompiler, I'd be real interested > in seeing that come in as a package on FreeBSD. > > I think I saw (a long time ago on wuarchive.wustl.edu) a COBOL to Ada > precompiler... and there *IS* an Ada compiler (GNU Ada) for FreeBSD, > so maybe that would do it for you? > > I'm not sure it handled the COBOL-85 extensions... > > Is there a COBOL-to-FORTRAN translator? How about Ada-to-Pascal or COBOL-to-Pascal? Agree that with the terabytes of dusty desks of COBOL that it would be nice to have access to this work in C. gary kline From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 11:06:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA05484 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:06:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA05477 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:06:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hod.tera.com (hod.tera.com [206.215.142.67]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id LAA21860 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:06:29 -0700 Received: from athena.tera.com (athena.tera.com [206.215.142.62]) by hod.tera.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05113; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:03:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Kline Received: (from kline@localhost) by athena.tera.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA15188; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:03:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606211803.LAA15188@athena.tera.com> Subject: Re: LFS anyone? To: black@MR.Net (Ben Black) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:03:23 -0700 (PDT) Cc: black@MR.Net, kline@tera.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606211754.MAA15764@galileo.mr.net> from Ben Black at "Jun 21, 96 12:54:12 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Ben Black: > There is plenty of documentation about LFS in the PhD thesis of it's author. > She implemented it for 4.4BSD. I was more concerned with practical issues of > code stability and initializing an LFS partition. > > Pointers? Names, paths, sites? I'm concerned with the stability of my system! I do regular backups and have recently been doing regular fsck's since my console has been freezing at seemingly random moments. But it would be reassuring to know that my filesystem data were secure. fsck is not bulletproof... at least not on SVR4. gary From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 11:10:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA06488 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riverside.mr.net (root@Riverside.MR.Net [137.192.2.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA06483 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:10:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from galileo.mr.net by riverside.mr.net (8.7.5/SMI-4.1.R931202) id NAA20509; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 13:10:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from black@localhost) by galileo.mr.net (8.7.2/8.7.2) id NAA15790; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 13:10:40 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 13:10:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Ben Black Message-Id: <199606211810.NAA15790@galileo.mr.net> To: black@MR.Net, kline@tera.com Subject: Re: LFS anyone? Cc: black@MR.Net, kline@tera.com, questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-MD5: g3jgR8t4t7IkO7PCG9SFqg== Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From the man page for mount_lfs: Seltzer, "File System Performance and Transaction Support", PhD Thesis, University of California, Berkeley, 1992, also available as Technical Report UCB/ERL M92. ftp://ftp.cs.berkeley.edu/ and poke around. Ben black@mr.net > > Pointers? Names, paths, sites? > > I'm concerned with the stability of my system! I do regular > backups and have recently been doing regular fsck's since my > console has been freezing at seemingly random moments. But > it would be reassuring to know that my filesystem data were > secure. > > fsck is not bulletproof... at least not on SVR4. > > gary > > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 11:24:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA08300 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from al.imforei.apana.org.au (al.imforei.apana.org.au [202.12.89.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA08295 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:24:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pjchilds@localhost) by al.imforei.apana.org.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA19420; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 03:54:32 +0930 (CST) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 03:54:32 +0930 (CST) From: Peter Childs Message-Id: <199606211824.DAA19420@al.imforei.apana.org.au> To: dbrockus@cyberhall.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: disk duplexing and mirroring Newsgroups: apana.lists.os.freebsd.questions X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article you wrote: : Hello, Gday. : Is there anyway I can mirror or duplex drives under FreeBSD. I took a : look at the ccd driver for FreeBSD web page and it stated that ccd was : "alpha" quality and it only mirrors drives. I would like to duplex : drives if possible and I am looking for a more stable solution. : Does anyone have any suggestions? : Thanks in advance. I think you'll find that the ccd device in both -stable and -current is pretty good. I'm using it here to interleave two 330mb scsi's into a news/web cache for my small home system.... the individual drives can only do about 1mb/s reads/writes.... the ccd "device" does about 1.8mb/s reads/writes (yes.. the drives are old and slow) Peter -- Peter Childs --- http://www.imforei.apana.org.au/~pjchilds The internet is full, please try again in half an hour... From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 11:53:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA13527 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:53:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts6-line15.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA13500 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:53:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA00265; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:53:54 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:53:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Stephen Fisher cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3c509 problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Stephen Fisher wrote: > When I stick the card in and boot up FreeBSD (2.1R) it gives the message: > > 1 3C5x9 board(s) on ISA found at 0x300 > ep0: 3c5x9 at 0x300 in test mode, Erase pencil mark! > ep0: eeprom failed to come ready. > epprobe: ignoring model ffff > ep0 not found at 0x300 Take the card of out of Plug and Play mode using the 3c5x9cfg utility and try again. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 11:55:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA13866 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server.webmaster.com (server.webmaster.com [204.156.143.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA13855 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:55:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home ([204.156.143.160]) by server.webmaster.com (post.office MTA v1.9.1 ID# 0-11487) with SMTP id AAA114 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:50:48 -0700 X-Sender: beau@server.webmaster.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: beau@webmaster.com (Beau Giles) Subject: boot problems Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:50:48 -0700 Message-ID: <19960621185047710.AAA114@home> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear Sir: I am attempting to load FreeBSD on a 486DX. I've created a boot floppy using boot.flp file. Upon booting the machine I get the standard expected message: >> FreeBSD BOOT @ 0x10000: 640/15360 k of memory Use hd(1,a)/kernel to boot sd0 when wd0 is also installed. Usage: [[fd(0,a)]/kernel][-abcCdhrsv] Use ? fro file list or press Enter for defaults Boot: After waiting a few seconds the machine reboots itself and the same screen appears again, and again, and again ... Using the ? option or the -c options has proved to be useless. In fact typing anything is useless, since pressing enter starts the process over again with no change. Could you please give me some help as to where to go next. ######################################################################### # Beau Giles # Webmaster, Inc # # University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill # Class of 1996 # # beau@webmaster.com # "The only thing to fear is fearlessness." ######################################################################### From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 12:19:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA17502 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:19:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts6-line15.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA17497 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:19:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA00301; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:18:43 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:18:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Alexander Goltsov cc: "'questions@FreeBSD.org'" Subject: Re: CDROM In-Reply-To: <01BB5F89.6CC18240@alex.amt.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 21 Jun 1996, Alexander Goltsov wrote: Pleae try to wrap your lines at about column 70. They're runnong off the edge of the screen. > I have got small question about using CDROM drives with the FreeBSD. > I have got PC Compaq Presario 520 with IDE controller and I have got CDROM drive Matsushita/Panasonic CR571 which is installed > as a slave. > > But FreeBSD cannot recognise it. In the release notes I found in the list of the supported > CDROMs that: > (wcd) ATAPI IDE inteface (experemental and should be considered ALPHA > quality). What does that mean? It means that the driver is not perfect. There are some drive configurations that it cannot deal with. You appear to have one of them. Or you aren't using the ATAPI.FLP boot floppy image. The BOOT.FLP image doesn't handle ATAPI currently. > And could you please give me advise which CDROM should I buy if it is > not possible for this CD-ROM. SCSI is the best supported, but it is spendy especially if you have to buy the controller. > My FreeBSD version is FreeBSD 2.2 SNAPSHOT March 23, 1996. You should grab a newer SNAP. I believe there is a 0608 SNAP out. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 12:27:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA18272 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:27:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts6-line15.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA18267 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:27:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA00315; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:27:42 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:27:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Iwan Leonardus cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: drivers In-Reply-To: <31C23F03.41C67EA6@rad.net.id> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 15 Jun 1996, Iwan Leonardus wrote: > - Can we run TCP/IP on token ring cards, if can is there any driver for > Madge Token Ring Card for FreeBSD FreeBSD doesn't support Token Ring right now. Something is in the works last I heard. > - Is there any driver for PC-XNET (OST X.25 card). Actually I am thinking of > make X.25 dial in server with virtual circuit, (1 port can handle up to > 8 dial in virtual circuit. I is like a X.25 BBS. If there are none for PC-XNET > maybe someone out there have a solution, or maybe there is a ready such a > product. It is require for our prospective customer. But I like the solution for > PC-XNET because we distribute that product here in my country. The EINET X.25 is the only card with a driver, and that driver was removed recently. It is possible to get back in though. I don't have details; check the questions and/or current archive. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 12:27:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA18300 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:27:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from desiree.teleport.com (desiree.teleport.com [192.108.254.21]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA18289 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:27:48 -0700 (PDT) From: ratliff@teleport.com Received: from linda.teleport.com (ratliff@linda.teleport.com [192.108.254.12]) by desiree.teleport.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA08697 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:27:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ratliff@localhost) by linda.teleport.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA01113; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:27:42 -0700 (PDT) To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Cannot find /root Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk 2 attempts at downloadin onto a partition on a 500M partition on a FastWide SCSI with bootmanager installed yields unable to find /root rebooting in 15 sec ad infinitum. during the boot of FreeBSD the following is displayed which means zilch to this beginner. rev 0, int a , irq 11 pci 0:11 checksum error SEEPROM read failed using leftover BIOS The SCSI controller is an onboard AIC 7870 BIOS v 1.2s5. Where do I go from here? Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 12:33:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA18890 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:33:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts6-line15.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA18883 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:33:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA00326; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:33:31 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:33:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Troy Landers cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.com, tdl@widomaker.com Subject: Re: EIDE CDROM, Motherboard & USB questions... In-Reply-To: <31C8060F.5DE8@widomaker.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It's "questions@freebsd.org", not "freebsd.com", even though "freebsd.com" is registered. On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, Troy Landers wrote: > I am about to purchase an IDE 8x CDROM drive. I have some concerns using > it with FreeBSD, any help would be greatly appreciated. > > I am trying to avoid the additional cost of a SCSI version of the same > drive and that of a SCSI controller card, at the same time I don't want > to spend less money on something that is known _not_ to work. > > Is anyone using an E-IDE 8x CDROM with FreeBSD?, if so what brand? Had > any problems? ATAPI should be OK. The driver is a bit picky about where the drive is in comparison to other disks. (slave, on second controller, etc.) With some moving around of hardware you can convince the drive to work. > I have seen statements such as "All non-SCSI cards are known to be > extremely slow compared to SCSI drives.", does this include the EIDE > controller built into most new motherboards? & is this still true? is > there nothing I can do to get the performance I should expect? Can't really say. SCSI is a lot easier to set up and get going under FreeBSD. If you have the controller already then definitely SCSI. Otherwise you have to get the driver compiled in and configured. Not that adding a driver is difficult. :-) > Also is the statement "ATAPI compatible IDE CD-ROMs (should be > considered experimental)", still true? I thought I saw something about a > new driver or something that integrates IDE CDROM's with FreeBSD or did > I mis-understand something? The ATAPI code is always under development. There are enough goofy ATAPI CDs out there to keep them going for a while. :) > I am also about to purchase a Tyan Tomcat II motherboard and run FreeBSD > on it. If anyone out there has one of these have you had any problems? Bad cache will net you wierd sig 11's. Otherwise it seems to be a good motherboard. > 3)... > Also, is there FreeBSD support for the Universal Serial Bus (USB), or > are there plans to support USB? I am trying to decide if I should wait > on the new version, the Tyan Tomcat II+ that will have USB built in. Never heard of it. In which case, not likely. But if you want to write a driver for it.... Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 12:36:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA19386 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:36:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts6-line15.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA19374 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:36:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA00337; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:36:11 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:36:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: mngroup@ritsec3.com.eg cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and DASH In-Reply-To: <9606210702.AA26183@ritsec3.com.eg> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 21 Jun 1996 mngroup@ritsec3.com.eg wrote: > How can i make the FreeBSD recognize my Ditto Tape running > from the accelerating card "Ditto DASH accelerating card" > with 2Mbps, so i can install, upgrade, and use my tapes. Won't happen. It's a floppy tape (with or without the Ditto Dash) and those aren't supported (except for the old QIC-40/80s). SCSI is _SOO_ much better. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 12:37:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA19565 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:37:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from svl.tec.army.mil (svl.tec.army.mil [192.86.66.29]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA19546 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:37:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from svl.tec.army.mil ([127.0.0.1]) by svl.tec.army.mil (8.7.4/8.7.1) with ESMTP id PAA11013; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:36:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199606211936.PAA11013@svl.tec.army.mil> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: Gary Kline cc: black@mr.net (Ben Black), questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: LFS anyone? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:39:54 PDT." <199606211739.KAA15153@athena.tera.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:36:05 -0400 From: Anne Brink Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > According to Ben Black: > > Is anyone using LFS and if so how well does it work and how do I newfs a > > partition to support it? LFS isn't currently working on FreeBSD, since the vm/buffer cache merge. I looked into playing with the source code, but decided I haven't done enough kernel hacking yet to be able to handle doing a decent job. The FS code is NOT easy going. I read Dr. Margo Seltzer's papers on implementing LFS in BSD, and what she discussed as needed and decided it was out of my league at this point. It would be way cool to have, though, and should work much more cleanly in FreeBSD than in straight 4.4, if I understand her main points correctly. I'm told None of the funky 4.4 file systems work, since they need to be patched to handle it. Others more knowledgable than I may care to comment. As for LFS, You can newlfs a partition and mount it, but as soon as I would write to it or run the cleaner, I panicked my OS. Not what one generally wants out of a file system. /-: > I'll second this question and follow up by asking if > anyone can post some information about the FFS and the > Log Filesystem. ((Does the LFS exist in the BSD world?)) > > Seems like the LFS would make fsck's obsolete. Yes? No? Yes, LFS does some rollbacks after a crash, BUT, the file system is not checked. It's just assumed to be fine. Fsck actually does verify that you have not lost something in a crash. Since most systems won't fsck file systems that were brought down cleanly, you only see fsck when you either come up after a crash or are doing something silly playing with clri, I think it's a good thing (TM) to have around. (-; LFS I believe assumes that the FS is ok, and then runs the cleaner in the background after you get up. That's one of the things that Margo Seltzer had to deal with when porting LFS to BSD- BSD users demanded a bit more stability in the FS than Sprite was able to offer. IMO, LFS looks very, very good for a spool partition, where you can stuff things like syslogs and mail logs and things like that. If you have lots of random file accesses, especially over NFS which caches things in blocks, not whole files, you may lose a /lot/ of the LFS functionality, and possibly get worse performance than with FFS. The LFS model isn't consistent with the concept of cylinder groups, but uses the theory of locality which helps its efficiency. As for a regular user file system? Well, I'd want to run some benchmarks. (-; Someone asked for some references: Both Dr. Margo Seltzer at Harvard and Dr. John Ousterhout at UC Berkeley have some web pages and papers about LFS. There are some very interesting strong points and weaknesses to LFS. Ousterhout designed LFS to be the file system for Sprite. Seltzer has done serious work on porting LFS to 4.4BSD (some mods have to be done to get it to work in unix) and also done some benchmarking of LFS. Dr. Seltzer has written some interesting (and readable) papers about implementing LFS in UNIX, which can be gotten from her web page at Harvard. Likewise, Ousterhout's original LFS paper, which is at UC Berkeley, is a very good read. Check out: http://www.das.harvard.edu/users/faculty/Margo_Seltzer/usenix.195/ to get started, it points to Ousterhout's stuff as well. The two don't entirely agree on everything LFS, so there's some interesting and enlightening back and forth commentary. Her '95 Usenix paper is very readable. Here's a couple more fun papers: Seltzer, Bostic, McKusick & Staelin: An implementation of a Log File System for Unix. 1993 Winter Usenix proceedings. (on Seltzer's web page, also) J. Ousterhout & F. Douglis: beating the I/O Bottleneck: The case for Log- Structured File Systems (Operating Systems Review Jan 1989) Optimal Write batch Size in Log-Structured File Systems (Carson & Setia, Computing Systems, Spring 1994) (I have a couple other refs at home, but they're the basic Sprite papers of Ousterhout's, and should be on his web page, which is pointed to by Seltzer's.) > Clues? > > gary kline > -Anne Brink -- "Ivanova is always right. I will listen to Ivanova. I will not ignore Ivanova's recommendations. Ivanova is God. And if this ever happens again, Ivanova will personally rip your lungs out!" -- Ivanova (re: Babylon 5 mantra), "A Voice in the Wilderness I" From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 12:38:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA19826 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:38:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts6-line15.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA19811 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:38:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA00344; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:38:29 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:38:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Ed Mullins cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD installation.. In-Reply-To: <199606171704.MAA04602@galaxy.galstar.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 17 Jun 1996, Ed Mullins wrote: > > In the FreeBSD install (using the boot.flp image, and attempting to > install via anonymous FTP), when it starts comitting, when it gets to the > "Doing newfs ......." info. dialog, it will start lightly accessing the > hard drive every 5 seconds, and continue doing this forever. I let it run > for over 4-5 hours, and it was still doing the same thing. You didn't hit (W)rite in the fdisk dialog box, did you? Don't. Use DOS FDISK to delete the FreeBSD partition and start over. Don't hit any Write or Commit commands except for the one on the install menu that starts the whole thing off. Take a look at ALT-F2 output and look for any errors. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 12:47:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA21171 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:47:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts6-line15.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA21159 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:47:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA00357; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:47:15 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:47:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: JAMIE cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help on installation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, JAMIE wrote: > Sorry to bother you, but I keep getting stuck at the same spot on the > installation. I've tried dozens of times over the past week with several > boot and root disks trying to do a floppy install and I keep getting hung > when I try to load the root floppy. Also, though I'm not sure if it is > supposed to boot without the root floppy installed, but if I try to boot > straight from my hard drive instead of using the boot floppy I get the > same prompt as with the boot floppy but instead of going to the install > menu the opening message and prompt just keep repeating. Are you using known error-free floppies? Are you ftping with BINARY? Are you writing the floppy images under MS-DOS mode of Windows 95? What version of FreeBSD are you installing? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 12:48:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA21296 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:48:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts6-line15.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA21291 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:48:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA00364; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:48:18 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:48:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Fred Adorno cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hitachi IDE CD-Rom In-Reply-To: <19960617.215812.9766.1.fadorno@juno.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 17 Jun 1996, Fred Adorno wrote: > Is there a way to get the software to acknowledge my new drive? Before or after installation? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 12:49:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA21477 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:49:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts6-line15.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA21470 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:49:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA00374; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:50:06 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:50:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Fred Adorno cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IDE cd-rom In-Reply-To: <19960618.100742.9262.0.fadorno@juno.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Fred Adorno wrote: > The kernel acknowledges that there is an ide cd-rom however one lines > states the following: > > wcd0, unknown media type, unlocked Try putting a CD in the drive on boot and see if that changes. It's a status report, nothing harmful. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 12:52:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA21704 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:52:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts6-line15.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA21693 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA00381; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:52:13 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:52:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "A1C Jason T. Luttgens" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Kernel image.....where is it? In-Reply-To: <31C8E7E1.746A@emh.kadena.af.mil> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 20 Jun 1996, A1C Jason T. Luttgens wrote: > I'm not sure what's going on here...but....2.1.0 copy goes fine...no > errors......but at the end of copying files, I get this error..... > > "Can't find a kernel image to link to on the root filesystem." > > And the system will NOT boot....... You forgot to install the bin distribution? The kernel isn't getting written somehow. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 12:58:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA22171 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:58:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sunpub.com (NS.FINPOST.COM [205.210.170.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22158 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:58:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.16.14.114 ([172.16.14.114]) by planet.sunpub.com with SMTP id <41485-2>; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 16:01:53 -0400 Message-ID: <31CB0D79.680D@canoe.ca> Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 17:00:41 -0400 From: Dave Blizzard Reply-To: blizzard@canoe.ca Organization: The Toronto Sun X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Panic cannot mount root X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thanks for reading this message, you must get hundreds but... my BSD has broken once again and I need some help to resurrect the file system. Some background: FreeBSD v2, 486 PC 33 mhz, Adaptec 1520/1522 SCSI Adapter, Quantum 1080s 1042mb drive as drive 1 (drive 0 is an IDE drive exclusively Dos). I boot from a floppy and then boot the SCSI drive. OK. For the third time now my system panics on boot and can't mount root. Using the fixit floppy, I have run "fsck -p /dev/rsd0" and the filesystem checks out with no errors. I have also run fsck with the -f option and no difference is seen. The partition information seems ok if I look at using the install procedure. I then reboot using the recommended "reboot -n". After the fsck, I can "mount /dev/sd0 /" but the contents seem to be only the floppy. Where am I going wrong? I suspect one of my kids may have started the system accidentally from a floppy and then halted the system but I can't see how that should destroy the SCSI drive. My only recourse the first two times was to start from scratch but after 3 weeks of successful install ... (I even got PPP and sendmail to work). >From Tearing my hair out in Toronto Dave Blizzard blizzard@canoe.ca From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 13:04:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA22856 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 13:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA22850; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 13:04:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199606212004.NAA22850@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: LFS anyone? To: anneb@svl.tec.army.mil (Anne Brink) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 13:04:42 -0700 (PDT) Cc: kline@tera.com, black@mr.net, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606211936.PAA11013@svl.tec.army.mil> from "Anne Brink" at Jun 21, 96 03:36:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anne Brink wrote: > > > According to Ben Black: > > Seems like the LFS would make fsck's obsolete. Yes? No? > > > Yes, LFS does some rollbacks after a crash, BUT, the file system is not > checked. It's just assumed to be fine. Fsck actually does verify that you LFS works forward from a 'checkpoint' to reconstruct the filesystem in the event of a crash. at the time the checkpoint was written the filesystem was stable and consistent. there are two checkpoint regions on disk, the active checkpoint toggles back and forth between the two. the last item written to disk is the toggle. > like syslogs and mail logs and things like that. If you have lots of random > file accesses, especially over NFS which caches things in blocks, not whole > files, you may lose a /lot/ of the LFS functionality, and possibly get worse > performance than with FFS. The LFS model isn't consistent with the concept > of cylinder groups, but uses the theory of locality which helps its efficiency. > As for a regular user file system? Well, I'd want to run some benchmarks. (-; memory, memory, memory. for LFS to be effective on general purpose uses, you must have enough memory to satisfy a very large percentage of reads from the (now unified vm and ) file cache. at least this is my understanding of LFS, i may be wrong i imagine that i will find out ;) jmb -- Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD--4.4BSD Unix for PC clones, source included. http://www.freebsd.org/ PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 13:20:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA24539 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 13:20:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA24533 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 13:20:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-6.ime.net [206.231.149.15]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA08530; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 16:18:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31CB03D5.352@ime.net> Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 16:19:33 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Terry Lambert CC: DSS , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: COBOL compiler with FreeBSD References: <199606211704.KAA18523@phaeton.artisoft.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert wrote: > > > If anyone knows about a cobol2c precompiler, I'd be real interested > in seeing that come in as a package on FreeBSD. > > I think I saw (a long time ago on wuarchive.wustl.edu) a COBOL to Ada > precompiler... and there *IS* an Ada compiler (GNU Ada) for FreeBSD, > so maybe that would do it for you? > Terry, I remember seeing a cobal2c package not to long ago I belive it was on the M$ BBS or maybe Borland BBS, Thus probably on thier ftp sites. I know nothing about it though. At that time I was working in MSVC/MFC, And was in search for a BP7.0 pascal2c translator. Never did find one that was comp. Wound up having to learn more pascal then I desired to. :( -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 13:58:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA29202 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 13:58:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA29196 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 13:58:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com ([13.231.132.20]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <15104(5)>; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 13:57:33 PDT Received: from gnu.mc.xerox.com (gnu.sdsp.mc.xerox.com) by gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-TB) id AA03630; Fri, 21 Jun 96 16:57:03 EDT Received: by gnu.mc.xerox.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00780; Fri, 21 Jun 96 16:57:02 EDT Message-Id: <9606212057.AA00780@gnu.mc.xerox.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: ps doesn't know why tasks are? Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 13:57:02 PDT From: "Marty Leisner" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have the 5.1.96 snapshot... Is this reasonable: ps PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND 3746 ?? Is+ 0:01.57 -bash (bash) 1480 ?? Is+ 0:00.51 bash 1656 ?? Is 0:07.64 bash 3342 ?? S 0:01.78 bash -v 4342 ?? R+ 0:00.03 ps 3522 ?? Is 0:02.32 bash 4290 ?? S+ 0:04.11 /usr/bin/make 4339 ?? S+ 0:00.11 cc -c -O -W -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls 4341 ?? R+ 0:01.34 /usr/libexec/cc1 /var/tmp/cc004339.i -quiet -dumpbase 153 v0 Is 0:02.08 -bash (bash) Where is the TT in ps? who and w both look ok. marty leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com Member of the League for Programming Freedom (http://www.lpf.org) Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic Arthur C. Clarke, The Lost Worlds of 2001 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 14:13:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA00659 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 14:13:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vpm.com ([207.49.29.143]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA00646 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 14:13:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by vpm.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA22977 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 14:15:41 -0700 From: Mark Stout Message-Id: <199606212115.OAA22977@vpm.com> Subject: Anyone get cmu-snmp2 to compile on FreeBSD? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 14:15:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi All: Anyone get cmu-snmp2 to compile on FreeBSD? I know there needs to be some tweaking, but I thought I'd save myself some time. Thanks, Mark -- ========================================================================== Mark Stout | The Village Potpourri Mall: http://www.vpm.com/ ---------------+---------------------------------------------------------- VPM Enterprises; P.O.Box 6427; Folsom, CA 95763-6427 Secured Web Hosting and Secured Discussion Groups Secured Internet Sales, Marketing and Advertising Specialist ========================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 14:27:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA02219 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 14:27:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ref.tfs.com (ref.tfs.com [140.145.254.251]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA02212 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 14:27:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tippy2.vnet.net (tippy2.vnet.net [166.82.197.240]) by ref.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA02171 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 14:27:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cmadison@localhost) by tippy2.vnet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id RAA02043; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 17:19:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 17:19:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Madison To: Fred Adorno cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Device Drivers for Adaptec 2920 pci card and NEC SCSI 4x CD-Rom In-Reply-To: <19960620.213810.9854.0.fadorno@juno.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 20 Jun 1996, Fred Adorno wrote: > Any support for these hardwares? I'm not about to lower my standards to > work with the devices that are currently being offered. That combo works with FreeBSD on my machine. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 15:09:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA07397 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA07392 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:09:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (am081.du.pipex.com [193.130.252.81]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id PAA22886 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:09:01 -0700 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id SAA08120; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 18:19:48 GMT Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 18:19:48 GMT Message-Id: <199606211819.SAA08120@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: john@starfire.mn.org CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199606211343.IAA00626@starfire.mn.org> (john@starfire.mn.org) Subject: Re: SCSI weirdness Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Trying to describe the symptoms and behaviors and the complicated history > is not appropriate in this forum, nor an effective use of bandwidth, but > if there's anyone out there who wants to try to dig into this one with > me, or who can suggest a more appropriate forum, I'd be very pleased. > There may turn out to be some interactions with the FreeBSD SCSI > implementation, which is one reason why I started here. There's actually a freebsd-scsi mailing list, which seems like the best place to discuss the more esoteric aspects of SCSI. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 15:10:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA07515 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA07499 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (am081.du.pipex.com [193.130.252.81]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id PAA22895 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:09:54 -0700 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id NAA00874; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 13:18:48 GMT Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 13:18:48 GMT Message-Id: <199606211318.NAA00874@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: davidc@pdd.3com.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <4495.9606211008@isolan.pdd.3com.com> (message from David Clear on Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:12:25 +0100) Subject: Re: FreeBSD and the Standard Template Library. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > The current version of libg++ apparently includes libstdc++, the "library > facilities defined by the forthcoming ANSI/ISO C++ standard, including > a port of the Standard Template Library." > > Will this be included with the next release of FreeBSD? All the latest and greatest gcc stuff is about to be added to -current (the development version that will eventually be FreeBSD-2.2) but I'm afraid it's too late to go into FreeBSD-2.1.5, which will be the next actual release. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 15:11:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA07666 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:11:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA07656; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:11:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (am081.du.pipex.com [193.130.252.81]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id PAA22907 ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:11:06 -0700 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id OAA07389; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 14:02:55 GMT Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 14:02:55 GMT Message-Id: <199606211402.OAA07389@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: conrads@neosoft.com CC: questions@freebsd.org, support@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199606202214.RAA20358@praline.no.neosoft.com> (message from Conrad Sabatier on Thu, 20 Jun 1996 17:10:29 +0600) Subject: Re: trn/inews posting problem Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > What is the recommended way to enable trn to post articles directly > to a remote server? If cnews is one of the normal solutions, what is > the key to getting it to work purely as a "pass-through" mechanism. > > I don't want to run my own news server! :-) In which case the only way I know of that you can post is to read news online. The "normal" way to do this off-line is to run a news server such as CNEWS or INN. I used to run INN and use the nntpsend program that comes with it to send my postings to my ISP, and slurp to pull articles off their server. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 15:16:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA08047 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:16:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.Clark.Net (mail.clark.net [168.143.0.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA08038 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:16:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clark.net (root@clark.net [168.143.0.7]) by mail.Clark.Net (8.7.3/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA17324; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 16:25:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from clark.net (markus@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clark.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id QAA25603; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 16:25:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199606212025.QAA25603@clark.net> To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: Troy Landers , freebsd-questions@freebsd.com Subject: Re: EIDE CDROM, Motherboard & USB questions... In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:33:31 PDT." Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 16:24:57 -0400 From: Mark Plummer Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > 3)... > > Also, is there FreeBSD support for the Universal Serial Bus (USB), or > > are there plans to support USB? I am trying to decide if I should wait > > on the new version, the Tyan Tomcat II+ that will have USB built in. > > Never heard of it. In which case, not likely. But if you want to write > a driver for it.... > > Doug White | University of Oregon > Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > hello, i believe the universal serial bus in question has gone by the name firewire and has a fair bit of backing (which means it has a chance of being ubiquitous someday). i know there's an ieee standard dealing with it (assuming it's what i'm thinking of). basically it's a 10Mb/s bus device supporting 64 "nodes" running on cat5 cable with a somewhat unusual connector on the end. the nodes are intended to be anything from scanners or cameras to regular rs232 serial ports. in short, it has a chance to be the next scsi "for the rest of us". this could be a real boon to those who are constantly fighting the irq crunch. a friend has said that the next generation of intel motherboards will ship with this, and though he's holding his breath (or atleast his purchase), i'm not... markus -- Mark Plummer, markus@clark.net, +1 410 796 1272 ps: a reference: http://www.adaptec.com/firewire/1394main.html. ieee 1394 is the standard for it (draft or proposed maybe, i'm not sure). From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 15:30:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA08727 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:30:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x1.boston.juno.com (x1.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.21]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA08718 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fadorno@juno.com) by x1.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id SAA20744; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 18:27:23 EDT To: cmadison@tippy2.vnet.net Cc: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:27:26 PST Subject: Re: Device Drivers for Adaptec 2920 pci card and NEC SCSI 4x CD-Rom Message-ID: <19960621.152727.3486.0.fadorno@juno.com> References: X-Mailer: Juno 1.00 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1,3-13 From: fadorno@juno.com (Fred Adorno) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can you show me what device drivers your kernel is setup with or send me a copy of your kernel? On Fri, 21 Jun 1996 17:19:08 -0400 (EDT) Chris Madison writes: >On Thu, 20 Jun 1996, Fred Adorno wrote: > >> Any support for these hardwares? I'm not about to lower my >standards to >> work with the devices that are currently being offered. > >That combo works with FreeBSD on my machine. > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 15:48:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA09769 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:48:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA09750; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:48:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606212248.PAA09750@freefall.freebsd.org> To: fadorno@juno.com (Fred Adorno) cc: gibbs@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec 2920 and NEC CDR-222 (4x SCSI) In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:46:05 PST." <19960621.104606.3150.0.fadorno@juno.com> Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:48:13 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I read in the book that you are in charge of the SCSI subsystem. I like >to know if you are working on a device drivers that will work with the >Adaptec 2920. I work on the SCSI system, but I'm not "in-charge" of it. I am not working on a device driver for the 2920 and don't have any plans to work on one personally. >I get this message at the end of the kernel: > >"pci0:19:vendor=0x1036, device=0x0000, class=storage (scsi) [no driver >assigned]" Yup. Its not a supported adapter. >Any suggestions or quick fixes? Buy a supported adapter? >I am a newbie, so I wouldn't know how to >write a device driver. The way I transformed from a newbie into a developer was by buying a piece of unsupported hardware and writing a device driver for it(2742T). There is a large learning curve, but I think its a very gratifying endevor. -- Justin T. Gibbs =========================================== FreeBSD: Turning PCs into workstations =========================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 15:53:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA09965 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:53:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwbone.bsi.com.br (cwbone.bsi.com.br [200.250.250.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA09958 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:53:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lenzi@localhost) by cwbone.bsi.com.br (8.6.12/8.6.9) id TAA19146; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 19:54:05 GMT Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 19:54:04 +0000 () From: Sergio de Almeida Lenzi To: Cameron Slye cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: pppd In-Reply-To: <199606201807.LAA10174@info.infosite.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello Cameron I use pppd in our isp in Brazil. Our /etc/ppp/options file is: modem crtscts mtu 296 netmask 0xfffffffe and the command I used to link two machines is: machine 1:/usr/sbin/pppd passive defaultroute connect xxxx :200.250.34.4 /dev/cuaa1 57600 where xxx is a chat script in the form: chat "" AT OK ATDT5559944 ogin: user word: pwd '$' /usr/sbin/pppd passive OS FreeBSD 2.1. Hope this will help. Sergio de Almeida Lenzi. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 17:14:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA13429 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 17:14:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA13409 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 17:13:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id XAA10500; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:27:39 GMT Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:27:39 GMT Message-Id: <199606212327.XAA10500@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <9606212057.AA00780@gnu.mc.xerox.com> (message from Marty Leisner on Fri, 21 Jun 1996 13:57:02 PDT) Subject: Re: ps doesn't know why tasks are? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND > 3746 ?? Is+ 0:01.57 -bash (bash) [snip] All your processes seem to have daemonised themselves 8-) This is what I get with -current:- 159 p0 Ss+ 3:22.59 top 162 p1 Is 0:00.06 ksh 182 p2 Ss 0:00.51 ksh 10499 p2 R+ 0:00.01 ps 9905 p4 Is 0:00.06 ksh 9940 p6 Ss 0:00.35 ksh 10494 p6 S+ 0:00.03 cc -O2 -m486 -pipe -fno-strength-reduce -g temp.c -o 10498 p6 D+ 0:00.04 /usr/bin/ld -e start -dc -dp -o temp /usr/lib/crt0.o 130 v1 Is 0:00.13 -ksh (ksh) [...] Was the version of ps you're using compiled under the snap? Programs like ps and top are extremely sensitive to system upgrades. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 17:37:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA14231 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 17:37:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14194 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 17:36:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id BAA14963; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 01:10:02 +0100 (BST) To: dima@irs.riga.lv cc: questions@freebsd.org From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: mountd strange output In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 20 Jun 1996 23:29:20 +0200." <31c9c2b2.irs@irs.riga.lv> Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 01:10:01 +0100 Message-ID: <14961.835402201@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dmitry Solodov wrote in message ID <31c9c2b2.irs@irs.riga.lv>: > . And during system startup call to mountd displays the following lines > > clnttcp_create: RCP: Program not registered > clnttcp_create: RCP: Program not registered > clnttcp_create: RCP: Program not registered > clnttcp_create: RCP: Program not registered At a guess you are running (or trying to) as a NIS client? I've seen this happen when NIS is enabled for some reason (possibly that the ypbind isn't done yet or something). Not sure of a solution (sorry). Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 17:41:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA14508 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 17:41:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14319 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 17:39:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id BAA14951; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 01:07:51 +0100 (BST) To: Mark Stout cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Anyone get cmu-snmp2 to compile on FreeBSD? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 21 Jun 1996 14:15:41 PDT." <199606212115.OAA22977@vpm.com> Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 01:07:49 +0100 Message-ID: <14949.835402069@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Mark Stout wrote in message ID <199606212115.OAA22977@vpm.com>: > Anyone get cmu-snmp2 to compile on FreeBSD? I know there needs to be some > tweaking, but I thought I'd save myself some time. ``Some'' being the under-statement of the year :-( I have a semi-port done for UCD-SNMP (based on CMU's code). To get the base distribution: ftp.ece.ucdavis.edu:/pub/snmp/ucd-snmp.tar.gz Patch file: ftp.ki.net:/pub/users/scrappy/ucd-snmp.3.1-diffs.gz (hope marc has used the new patches I sent recently). It's something I'd like to get into the ports before 2.1.5 goes out the door ... we'll see. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 18:31:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA16416 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 18:31:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA16396; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 18:31:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seagull.rtd.com (root@seagull.rtd.com [198.102.68.2]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id SAA23736 ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 18:31:07 -0700 Received: (from dgy@localhost) by seagull.rtd.com (8.7.5/1.2) id SAA11650; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 18:29:10 -0700 (MST) From: Don Yuniskis Message-Id: <199606220129.SAA11650@seagull.rtd.com> Subject: syscons fonts To: freebsd-hackers@freefall.FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD hackers), freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 18:29:10 -0700 (MST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings! Hopefully a few simple ones (for the *right* person...) Can someone explain/name the iso-*, cp866-* and koi8-* fonts? And the purpose of the 8x14 fonts? And the differences between the "", "b" and "c" versions of the 866 and koi8 fonts? Thanks <:-) --don From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 18:48:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA17266 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 18:48:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA17256 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 18:48:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id WAA10403; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 22:40:09 GMT Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 22:40:09 GMT Message-Id: <199606212240.WAA10403@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: terry@lambert.org CC: dss-gmbh@t-online.de, questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199606211704.KAA18523@phaeton.artisoft.com> (message from Terry Lambert on Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:04:20 -0700 (MST)) Subject: Re: COBOL compiler with FreeBSD Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Terry Lambert writes: > > Actually, I have to admit to a certain fondness for the idea of > having a COBOL compiler available, if for no other reason than to > support the massive amount of legacy code out there, and for the > ability to have verifiability, even if it means that the language > limits the complexity of the algorithms you can encode in it. There is actually a GNU FORTRAN compiler for similar reasons, though I think it's still only in beta (the guy who's writing it started work on in something like 1988!). In a way, it's a shame they didn't get round to doing one for COBOL. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 18:49:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA17362 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 18:49:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA17355 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 18:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id WAA10425; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 22:59:03 GMT Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 22:59:03 GMT Message-Id: <199606212259.WAA10425@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: kline@tera.com CC: black@MR.Net, black@MR.Net, kline@tera.com, questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199606211803.LAA15188@athena.tera.com> (message from Gary Kline on Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:03:23 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: LFS anyone? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Gary Kline writes: > > Pointers? Names, paths, sites? There was a discussion about LFS on -hackers and someone posted this URL (haven't got round to checking it yet myself):- ftp://ftp.scis.org/pub/lfs/ There's a good discussion of LFS and lots of other internals stuff in "Unix Internals (The New Frontiers)" by Valhalia. No doubt the new 4.4BSD edition of the daemon book will have something as well. > I'm concerned with the stability of my system! I do regular > backups and have recently been doing regular fsck's since my > console has been freezing at seemingly random moments. But > it would be reassuring to know that my filesystem data were > secure. At the moment, LFS is really only suitable as something for hackers to experiment with (so I gather). Perhaps when 2.2 is released... Anyway, the freebsd-fs mailing list is probably the place to watch for file-system developments. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 18:51:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA17478 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 18:51:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA17467 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 18:51:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id WAA10408; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 22:42:57 GMT Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 22:42:57 GMT Message-Id: <199606212242.WAA10408@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: tcg@ime.net CC: terry@lambert.org, dss-gmbh@t-online.de, questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <31CB03D5.352@ime.net> (message from Gary Chrysler on Fri, 21 Jun 1996 16:19:33 -0400) Subject: Re: COBOL compiler with FreeBSD Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Gary Chrysler writes: > > At that time I was working in MSVC/MFC, And was in search for a > BP7.0 pascal2c translator. Never did find one that was comp. > Wound up having to learn more pascal then I desired to. :( There is a free Pascal-to-C converter (p2c) that claims to accept Borland syntax; I'd be surprised if no-one's ported it to DOS. BTW it's in the FreeBSD ports if you're feeling nostalgic 8-) -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 18:52:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA17587 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 18:52:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA17581 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 18:52:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id XAA10442; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:10:28 GMT Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:10:28 GMT Message-Id: <199606212310.XAA10442@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: anneb@svl.tec.army.mil CC: kline@tera.com, black@MR.Net, questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199606211936.PAA11013@svl.tec.army.mil> (message from Anne Brink on Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:36:05 -0400) Subject: Re: LFS anyone? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Anne Brink writes: > > LFS isn't currently working on FreeBSD, since the vm/buffer cache merge. > I looked into playing with the source code, but decided I haven't done enough > kernel hacking yet to be able to handle doing a decent job. The FS code is > NOT easy going. I read Dr. Margo Seltzer's papers on implementing LFS in BSD, > and what she discussed as needed and decided it was out of my league at this > point. It would be way cool to have, though, and should work much more cleanly > in FreeBSD than in straight 4.4, if I understand her main points correctly. > > I'm told None of the funky 4.4 file systems work, since they need to be patched > to handle it. Others more knowledgable than I may care to comment. As for LFS, I'm told that Portals is in fairly good shape (don't know about any of the others). As for LFS, it was discussed on the -hackers list a few weeks ago and "Hr.Ladavac" volunteered to do some preliminary work on it. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 19:06:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA18072 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 19:06:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts10-line11.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.109]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA18066 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 19:06:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA00648; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 19:07:05 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 19:07:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Beau Giles cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot problems In-Reply-To: <19960621185047710.AAA114@home> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 21 Jun 1996, Beau Giles wrote: > I am attempting to load FreeBSD on a 486DX. I've created a boot > floppy using boot.flp file. Upon booting the machine I get the standard > expected message: > > >> FreeBSD BOOT @ 0x10000: 640/15360 k of memory > Use hd(1,a)/kernel to boot sd0 when wd0 is also installed. > Usage: [[fd(0,a)]/kernel][-abcCdhrsv] > Use ? fro file list or press Enter for defaults > > Boot: > > After waiting a few seconds the machine reboots itself and the same screen > appears again, and again, and again ... Using the ? option or the -c > options has proved to be useless. In fact typing anything is useless, since > pressing enter starts the process over again with no change. Could you > please give me some help as to where to go next. Sounds like a corrupted floppy. Here is my mantra of the week: 1) Did you use an ERROR-FREE floppy? 2) Did you ftp via BINARY mode? 3) Did you boot back to MS-DOS mode if running Win95? If any of these are "no", then rectify and try again. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 19:09:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA18167 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 19:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ki.net (root@ki.net [205.150.102.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA18159; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 19:09:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by ki.net (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id WAA27079; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 22:09:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 22:09:16 -0400 (EDT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Gary Palmer cc: Mark Stout , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone get cmu-snmp2 to compile on FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <14949.835402069@palmer.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 22 Jun 1996, Gary Palmer wrote: > Mark Stout wrote in message ID > <199606212115.OAA22977@vpm.com>: > > Anyone get cmu-snmp2 to compile on FreeBSD? I know there needs to be some > > tweaking, but I thought I'd save myself some time. > > ``Some'' being the under-statement of the year :-( I have a semi-port > done for UCD-SNMP (based on CMU's code). > > To get the base distribution: > > ftp.ece.ucdavis.edu:/pub/snmp/ucd-snmp.tar.gz > > Patch file: > > ftp.ki.net:/pub/users/scrappy/ucd-snmp.3.1-diffs.gz > > (hope marc has used the new patches I sent recently). It's something > I'd like to get into the ports before 2.1.5 goes out the door > ... we'll see. > Done...and running. I took your advanced and setup SNMPV2AUTH... but how do I use it now :( Anyone know anythign abotu SNMP that can tell me how to do an snmpwalk with V2AUTH setup? Gotta pick up that book *sigh* Other then that, I'll put a full cdiff up at the above location between teh base ucd-snmp.tar..gz and the most recent version I'm running here (ie. with Gary's patches) in the next 15 minutes or so... Marc G. Fournier scrappy@ki.net Systems Administrator @ ki.net scrappy@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 20:43:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA24965 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 20:43:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onyx.southwind.net (root@onyx.southwind.net [204.95.83.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA24944; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 20:43:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from Ucomplet@localhost) by onyx.southwind.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with UUCP id WAA29696; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 22:36:22 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: onyx.southwind.net: Ucomplet set sender to jgoerzen@complete.org using -f Received: (from jgoerzen@localhost) by complete.org (8.7.5/8.7.2) id VAA05739 for msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 21:16:51 -0500 (CDT) From: John Goerzen Message-Id: <199606220216.VAA05739@complete.org> Subject: Re: Status of DOS emulator? To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 21:16:50 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199606210420.NAA08565@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from Michael Smith at "Jun 21, 96 01:50:53 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL19 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Jordan K. Hubbard stands accused of saying: > NetBSD have both the BSDI emulator (doscmd) and a port of DOSEMU. > Rundos is even more moribund (but possibly originally technically superior > to either of the above; certainly more ambitious). I am facing a very difficult decision here and maybe some of you can help me regain my sanity :-) I have asked some questions of both NetBSD and OpenBSD. In response, I did get some very helpful answers. I also got a lot of hostility, like "That's a stupid question. What did you expect?" OpenBSD people seem to hate NetBSD people, the ones that they owe their existance to. I even saw a message, don't ask me why it was CC'd to me, where an OpenBSD person said he knew of 20 serious bugs in NetBSD but refused to tell the NetBSD people about it because he thought they were "pricks". Plus, the OpenBSD developer (probably the leader of the project) basically called me stupid for asking what was in the snapshots. I don't want to be perpetually running prerelease code like I would be in OpenBSD, and I don't care for all the fighting. Both systems have a big lack of documentation and have poor serial code (which is important to me), so I will be not switching to either of them. Just a word here to you guys at FreeBSD: thanks for the great website, it has lots of useful info. NetBSD/OpenBSD had very little. My decision is now this: FreeBSD or Linux. I know right off the bat that I will lose some of FreeBSD's legendary stability. What I need to know is how much. Also, how much more secure is FreeBSD than Linux? I am running a BBS sort of thing, where anybody in the public gets free dialin FreeBSD shell account. I don't want to open up my system like that under an OS that isn't secure. DOS emulation is becoming more important to me. Unix still doesn't have a decent word processor that I've seen. WordPerfect 5.0, a very outdated DOS word processor, is much better than even the best Unix word processor I've seen so far. (Yes, I have tried Andrew). I hate booting to DOS. It feels like I'm going back 20 years in computer history. Probably that's true :-) I lose multitasking, stability, etc. It's enough to turn my stomach So I need advice. And I thank everyone here for being polite in spite of my long messages! -- John Goerzen | Turn your PC into a Workstation for FREE! Custom programming | Check out www.freebsd.org NOW! For free FreeBSD jgoerzen@complete.org | Unix shell access, 316-367-8490 with your modem. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 20:55:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA25713 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 20:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns3.mke.ab.com (ns3.mke.ab.com [130.151.86.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA25708 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 20:55:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com ([130.151.17.154]) by ns3.mke.ab.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02201; Fri, 21 Jun 96 22:54:57 CDT Received: from slip1.ven.ra.rockwell.com (slip1.ven.ra.rockwell.com [130.151.17.162]) by zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA06962 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:54:34 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:54:34 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960621221300.282fc580@zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com> Organization: Rockwell Automation de Venezuela X-Sender: eparis@zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: "Eloy A. Paris" Subject: Difference between -stable and -release? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, just a dumb question: what's the difference between FreeBSD-stable and -release? I know what's -current but haven't found anything about -stable. If my system was installed from -release (2.1.0-RELEASE to be exact), do I need to reinstall the whole system if I want to upgrade to -stable or it is enough to recompile the kernel in -stable and reboot? Thanks, E-loy.- -- Eloy A. Paris Global Technical Services Rockwell Automation de Venezuela Telephone: 58-2-9432311 Fax: 58-2-9430323 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 21:43:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA27310 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 21:43:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts7-line12.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.59]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA27305 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 21:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA00757; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 21:43:40 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 21:43:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Ed Mullins cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD installation.. In-Reply-To: <199606212249.RAA26677@galaxy.galstar.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Any opinions? On Fri, 21 Jun 1996, Ed Mullins wrote: > > > In the FreeBSD install (using the boot.flp image, and attempting to > > > install via anonymous FTP), when it starts comitting, when it gets to > the > > > "Doing newfs ......." info. dialog, it will start lightly accessing > the > > > hard drive every 5 seconds, and continue doing this forever. I let it > run > > > for over 4-5 hours, and it was still doing the same thing. [...] > > I've went through the installation proccess around 25 times so far, each > time learning a little more. I always delete the partition it starts to > create with FDISK, before I start to reinstall. I think I tryed the Write > command once - but that's all. > > Here's some detail: > > Although I've tryed different versions, this output came from 2.2-960612, > when I pressed ALT-F2 when it 'hangs' - it usually hangs while the dialog > on ALT-F1 says "Doing newfs -b 8192 -f 1024 -v 4092 /mnt/dev/rwd0s2f" on > the ALT-F2 screen it displays, basically: > > -------begin here-- > Warning: calculated sectors per cylinder (4092) disagrees with disklabel > (1008) > > 191.8MB in 6 cyl groups (16 c/g, 31.97MB/g, 7680 i/g) > > super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at: > 32,wd0: interrupt timeout: > wd0: status 58 error 0 > wd0: interrupt timeout: > wd0: status 5a error 1 > ------end here-- Sounds like your disk controller is having trouble. We'll have to ask the ide hackers about thiserror but I have a hunch something is interfereing with your disk controller. > Here's better description of my hardware.... > > Intel 486SX2 50MHz CPU, 8MBs of RAM, Western Digital 540MB, Segate 428MB > (I didn't have it do anything to the Seagate, only the W.D.), 1.44 3.5" > floppy, a 2 speed generic Panasonic-compatible CD-ROM, 28.8 Cardinal > modem, PS/2-type mouse and keyboard, and a generic 16-bit sound card > that's compatible with most all Sound Blaster and Adlib drivers.. > > I think that's all that may possibly have to do with it.. I've tryed > deleted all partitions on the 540, and I've tryed having half of the drive > to Win95 and half to let FreeBSD install on, both produce the same > results.. Hm. I'd have the errors above decoded first and then work from there. > Any thoughts?? This has been very frustrating... I really want to learn > the OS, and people have reccommended FreeBSD the most to me. > > I've searched through the archives on www.freebsd.org for hours, the only > thing I can find close to my problem suggest that my hardware may be > failing, but I've tested the motherboard, harddrive controler, and > hardrives with several PC testing programs -- all say there are no > problems what-so-ever. Those programs are not very good, especialy with memory and cache problems. FreeBSD is a good hardware tester by itself. :-) > The Western Digital is only a month or two old... With all the other > operating systems (including msdos 6.xx, pcdos 5(?), win3.1, wfwg3.11, > win95, and os/2 3.0) I've used have had great compatibility with all my > hardware, and have no problems.. FreeBSD taxes the system harder than other operating systems and is less tolerant of faulty hardware. It can exacerbate previously unknown problems. What brand is your IDE controller? Is it an onboard? > By the way, I'm sure you know, but, I haven't been able to access > ftp.freebsd.org for probally 4-5 days now. Was working this morning. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 22:01:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA28913 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 22:01:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sovcom.kiae.su (sovcom.kiae.su [144.206.136.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA28907; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 22:01:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sovcom.kiae.su id AA15664 (5.65.kiae-1 ); Sat, 22 Jun 1996 07:57:59 +0300 Received: by sovcom.KIAE.su (UUMAIL/2.0); Sat, 22 Jun 96 07:57:59 +0300 Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.ru (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA00400; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 08:54:14 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199606220454.IAA00400@nagual.ru> Subject: Re: syscons fonts To: dgy@rtd.com (Don Yuniskis) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 08:54:14 +0400 (MSD) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freefall.FreeBSD.org, freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199606220129.SAA11650@seagull.rtd.com> from "Don Yuniskis" at "Jun 21, 96 06:29:10 pm" From: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (Andrey A. Chernov) X-Class: Fast X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Can someone explain/name the iso-*, cp866-* and koi8-* fonts? iso means ISO8859-1 code table cp866 means IBM Code Page 866 code table koi8 means KOI8-R code table (RFC1489) > And the purpose of the 8x14 fonts? For 80x43 mode (EGA font) > And the differences between the "", "b" and "c" versions of > the 866 and koi8 fonts? Different kind of letters style. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://www.nagual.ru/~ache/ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 22:28:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA29967 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 22:28:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts7-line12.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.59]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA29961 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 22:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA00792; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 22:27:50 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 22:27:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: John Richards cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: More questions following SUCCESSFUL Installation In-Reply-To: <9606200835.AA21219@zyqad.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I can answer some of these... On Thu, 20 Jun 1996, John Richards wrote: > 2. My /etc/services file is very small having only 5 entries. Is this correct? > The machine I'm writing this from - a DEC alpha 3000 has a much larger services > file. I assume that once I get my FreeBSD box connected to the net I'm going to > have to add the services as needed - n'est pas? The upgrade procedure is broke in this regard. Just borrow the services file off of your favorite computer or get it out of the distributions (the 'etc' dist I think) or the CVS tree (from the web site). > 3. To get Sendmail, DNS, TCP/IP, PPP etc working do I just install the > appropriate package? Sendmail: comes configured ready to go. DNS: Comes with the system, just needs to be configured and enabled in /etc/sysconfig. Check /etc/namedb/... and the named man page. > 4. How do I make use of the live filesystem disk? Does this mean that I don't > need to install all packages that I want if I only want some occasionally? Mount and access like any other disk. One of the uses I know is that the full sources are expanded on it, so you can use the 'lndir' utility to store the sources on the CD. Saves disk space. > 5. Any hints about clearing up the flutter on X11 at high resolution > appreciated. You'll have to hack /etc/XF86Config and modify the modelines for your monitor and display card. It's not easy. There is a doc in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/doc/. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 22:33:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA00286 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 22:33:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA00277 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 22:32:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id WAA24305 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 22:32:48 -0700 Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id GAA17852; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 06:28:21 +0100 (BST) To: "Eloy A. Paris" cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Difference between -stable and -release? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:54:34 EDT." <2.2.16.19960621221300.282fc580@zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com> Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 06:28:20 +0100 Message-ID: <17850.835421300@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Eloy A. Paris" wrote in message ID <2.2.16.19960621221300.282fc580@zeus.ven.ra.rockwell.com>: > just a dumb question: what's the difference between FreeBSD-stable and > -release? I know what's -current but haven't found anything about -stable. -stable is a source tree like -current. 2.1.0-RELEASE was released from the -stable branch of our source repository. -stable is just a continuance of that branch past the release. (Are you sure this isn't in the docs somewhere? I thought I saw it, but can't remember where now :-( ) > If my system was installed from -release (2.1.0-RELEASE to be exact), do I > need to reinstall the whole system if I want to upgrade to -stable or it is > enough to recompile the kernel in -stable and reboot? You'd be advised to do a `make world' too. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 22:36:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA00477 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 22:36:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts7-line12.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.59]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA00471 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 22:36:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA00807; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 22:36:28 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 22:36:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Dmitry Solodov cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mountd strange output In-Reply-To: <31c9c2b2.irs@irs.riga.lv> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 20 Jun 1996, Dmitry Solodov wrote: > NSF support was enabled (in kernel, sysconfig, /etc/exports, etc), so > I may mount remote directories from FreeBSD box on OS/2 machine. > Also it's possible to mount remote directories from OS/2 machine > on FreeBSD PC. All works as one would expect. I have such a configuration. > The problem is that /etc/rc starts > mountd > after > portmap > > . And during system startup call to mountd displays the following lines > > clnttcp_create: RCP: Program not registered > clnttcp_create: RCP: Program not registered > clnttcp_create: RCP: Program not registered > clnttcp_create: RCP: Program not registered > > Could anybody explain what could be the cause and what was not done > properly ? What should be done to hide/dismiss them ? Did you install pcnfsd? OS/2's NFS uses this and it won't work right without it. rpc_pcnfsd is in ports. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 22:59:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA01095 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 22:59:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts7-line12.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.59]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA01090 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 22:59:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA00826; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 22:58:45 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 22:58:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: John Patrick Cua cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS Setup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 20 Jun 1996, John Patrick Cua wrote: > Is there any documentation for setting up NFS? I can only mount one > directory from the file server. What's worse is that the client hangs > once in a while. I also get the message "Permission denied" whenever I > try mounting the second directory. That is a permissions problem. Check the permissions of the mountpoint on the server and the client. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 23:04:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA01536 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:04:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts7-line12.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.59]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA01526 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:04:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA00837; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:04:52 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:04:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Sean Batson cc: James Raynard , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Offical Release of 2.2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Sean Batson wrote: > would 2.1.5 have support for the atapi mitsumi cd rom? 2.1-RELEASE has support for this, last I checked. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 23:10:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA01825 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:10:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts7-line12.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.59]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA01819 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:10:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA00847; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:09:22 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:09:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Alex Carlos Braga Antao cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Paradise Bali 32 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 17 Jun 1996, Alex Carlos Braga Antao wrote: > Somebody here knows if there's a driver for the video card Paradise > Bali 32 for XFree ? Or another compatible ? Check with the XFree group: questions@xfree86.org I would guess not, unless it's S3 based. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 23:12:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA01949 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts7-line12.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.59]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA01944 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:12:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA00857; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:12:50 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:12:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Dana Ross cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please help with install troubles In-Reply-To: <31BE9081.5B7C@computer.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sorry for the late reply. On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, Dana Ross wrote: > After all the files were transferred I get the following message... > > "Unable to link /Kernel into place" Did you install the bin distribution? I'm not 100% sure what this error means. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 23:35:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA04302 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:35:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts8-line8.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.72]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA04292 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:35:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA00894; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:35:52 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:35:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Ed Mullins cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD installation.. In-Reply-To: <199606220626.BAA18658@galaxy.galstar.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 22 Jun 1996, Ed Mullins wrote: > I quoted the entire message incase you need any of it for reference. > > First, my hard drive controler is onboard, my motherboard is a Packard > Bell. That may mean something. I'm at a loss at this point. Suggestions? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jun 21 23:59:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA06141 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:59:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts7-line14.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.61]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA06129 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:59:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA00938; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:59:58 -0700 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 23:59:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Rashid Karimov cc: Terry Lambert , dbabler@Rigel.orionsys.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Rlogin delay In-Reply-To: <199606181339.JAA13296@rk.ios.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Rashid Karimov wrote: > > > > > I've observed something concerning rlogin that is a bit odd to me, and > > > > > increasingly annoying for my users. When a user logs off and then tries > > > > > to re-log within a reasonable delay from another machine on the local > > > > > network, the login will be ingored for a very long time (10-60 seconds > > > > > seems typical). I checked the /etc/inetd.conf to make sure it was okay: > > > > If you are globally setting SO_LINGER -- don't. > > > > > > You may also want to check to see (via ps -gax) if the rlogind had > > exited, or it's the TCP trying to ack the client that's causing > > the hang. > > I see this behaviour for more than a year now - it's very typical. > In my situation it's all FreeBSDs , so it's not a problem with > brain-dead client :) by some other vendor. I just want to add a data point here. We have this problem on STOCK 2.1 machines, from one 2.1 box to another. rlogin, exit, rlogin, wait. This has been complained about before on -questions. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 00:01:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA06451 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 00:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts7-line14.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.61]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA06435 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 00:01:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA00951; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 00:02:16 -0700 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 00:02:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Chris Lavin cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serial Communication In-Reply-To: <199606171440.KAA08889@only.justcompute.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 17 Jun 1996, Chris Lavin wrote: > I am having trouble getting serial terrms to work. I amn doing everything > correctly still nuttin. I am wonder if it could be because my system reads > sl0 as a ethernet device. Could that be the conflict? sl0 is SLIP interface 0, and doesn't exist as a special file. What are you trying to do? I bet you are trying to use /dev/ttyd? for dialout instead of /dev/cuaa?. Use cuaa? instead. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 00:29:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA08752 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 00:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts7-line14.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.61]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA08744 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 00:29:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA00982; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 00:29:29 -0700 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 00:29:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Matthew A. Gessner" cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: true type fonts and/or deskjet 500 soft fonts In-Reply-To: <31C85588.41C67EA6@aristar.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, Matthew A. Gessner wrote: > I'm looking for information on software that might let me use Windows > TrueType fonts on my FreeBSD system. I have a DeskJet 500 attached, > and the built in fonts leave a bit to be desired. Doesn't exist currently. But you can do postscript with ghostscript. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 01:12:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA12087 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 01:12:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ifqsc.sc.usp.br (uspfsc.ifqsc.sc.usp.br [143.107.228.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA12063 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 01:12:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 96 05:13 BRT From: Carlos Antonio Ruggiero Subject: UFS and JAZ drive To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-id: X-Envelope-to: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-VMS-To: IN%"freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-VMS-Cc: TOTO References: Internet: ifqsc.usp.br HepNet: uspfsc.hepnet X.25:(0724)11620020 Comments: ifqsc.usp.br: Instituto de Fisica e Quimica de Sao Carlos - USP, BR Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I've just bought a JAZ drive (from iomega). I can mount a DOS file system with mount -t msdos /dev/sd2s4 /dos. However, commands like disklabel and fdisk doesn't seem to work (disklabel says: operation not suportted by device...) Is there a way to have a Unix file system on these disks? If yes, what commands shall I use. I'm running 2.1.0-RELEASE. Thanks toto toto@ifqsc.sc.usp.br From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 01:51:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA14886 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 01:51:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA14830 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 01:51:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id KAA29832; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 10:51:15 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id KAA19038; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 10:51:14 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id JAA25723; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 09:58:24 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199606220758.JAA25723@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: help with compaq To: mikee@solozzo.tele.pw.edu.pl (Adam Kubicki) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 09:58:24 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199606211545.IAA20939@freefall.freebsd.org> from Adam Kubicki at "Jun 21, 96 05:47:24 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [Moved to -questions. Please guys, this is absolutely not the kind of questions that should go to -core! Trust the other users, these questions are so simple that they could have been answered by many other people.] As Adam Kubicki wrote: > hi team! > > I've got two compaq deskpro 5100 computers, and i have serious problems > with them trying to run freebsd 2.1.0-R. I searched hardware, questions > and installation mailling lists archives on www.freebsd.org but i still > can't find solutions. The first problem is, that FreeBSD sees only > 16MB of ram (both machines have 32MB) according to dmesg output. FAQ Compaq only announces the first 16 MB of RAM in the usual place in CMOS, and uses some trickery for the remainder. You should be able to force your kernel to 32 MB by options "MAXMEM='(32*1024)'" in your kernel config file. > Second problem is onboard AMD Lance PCI ethernet card with 97c970 > chipset (there are tens of emails about it in your archive, it shoud > go to FAQ i think), kernel seems to recognize this card (dmesg shows > proper settings and proper ether address), but ifconfig gives me > "initialisation error" (anyway, it sets all parameters) then ping etc > commands show sendto error. Are you sure the interrupt setting is okay? -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 02:43:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA19859 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 02:43:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from perseus.ultra.net (perseus.ultra.net [199.232.56.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA19854 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 02:43:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kbranco ([146.115.57.4]) by perseus.ultra.net (8.7.4/dae0.6) with SMTP id FAA00155 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 05:43:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960622094601.006c16ec@ma.ultranet.com> X-Sender: kbranco@ma.ultranet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 05:46:01 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.com From: Kenny Subject: INSTALLATION Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk During the install of FreeBSD 2.1 on my machine I chose some software to install along with it in the setup menus. Then after all the AA - CP floppies we're installed FreeBSD asked me for floppies that I didn't have. Are those floppies the packages that I can download too? -- Kenny Branco kbranco@ma.ultranet.com N1VND-145.4900 NB Repeater Group http://www.ultranet.com/~kbranco From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 08:37:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA12159 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 08:37:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phoenix.volant.org (root@phoenix.volant.org [205.179.79.193]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA12137 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 08:37:01 -0700 (PDT) From: patl@asimov.volant.org Received: from asimov.volant.org (asimov.phoenix.volant.org [205.179.79.65]) by phoenix.volant.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA18883; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 08:35:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by asimov.volant.org (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA12489; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 08:37:33 -0700 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 08:37:33 -0700 Message-Id: <9606221537.AA12489@asimov.volant.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, TOTO@ifqsc.sc.usp.br Subject: Re: UFS and JAZ drive Reply-To: patl@Phoenix.volant.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Md5: LMBjO3asGgBk02j5WlS9Hw== Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk |> I've just bought a JAZ drive (from iomega). I can mount a DOS |> file system with mount -t msdos /dev/sd2s4 /dos. However, commands |> like disklabel and fdisk doesn't seem to work (disklabel says: |> operation not suportted by device...) |> |> Is there a way to have a Unix file system on these disks? If yes, |> what commands shall I use. I'm running 2.1.0-RELEASE. Hmmm. I bought two of them a couple of weeks ago, and installed one as SCSI target zero to allow me to easily choose which OS to run without worrying about compatible boot blocks or whether one OS might trash partitions belonging to another. I had no problem installing FreeBSD 2.1R on a Jaz drive. I didn't do anything special to prepare the disk, just the normal install sequence. (Note that I was installing onto a blank disk, not the Tools cartridge that comes with the drive.) One thing to note is that the Tools cartridge is formatted in al way that makes it compatible with both Mac and MS-DOS/WINDOWS. They claim that you must install the tools or reformat the drive to make the whole thing usable. There is also some indication that their drives implement some method of putting a write-protect password on the cartridge. Possibly the tools disk is password protected until install/reformat. In any case, if you have been trying to install onto the Tools cartridge, you might want to try a blank one instead. -Pat My opinions are my own. For a small royalty, they can be yours as well... Pat Lashley, Senior Software Engineer, Henry Davis Consulting patl@Phoenix.Volant.ORG http://Phoenix.Volant.ORG/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 09:10:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA15343 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 09:10:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell.aros.net (root@shell.aros.net [205.164.111.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA15336 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 09:10:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from angio@localhost) by shell.aros.net (8.7.5/Unknown) id KAA06324 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 10:10:45 -0600 (MDT) From: Dave Andersen Message-Id: <199606221610.KAA06324@shell.aros.net> Subject: NFS weirdness. To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 10:10:44 -0600 (MDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL13 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This came up on one of my NFS mounted filesystems. The /n/terra/home/couch directory is the NFS side of things, the terra /home/c/couch side is the original filesystem. These files were created when uncompress bombed out, but I'm baffled that they appear different on the two systems. Any idea what gives? -Dave Andersen /n/terra/home/c/couch/reminder >> ls -al total 2 drwxrwxr-x 2 couch users 1024 Jun 22 09:54 . drwx--x--x 13 couch users 1024 Jun 22 09:44 .. drwxrwxrwx 1 couch users 0 Jun 22 09:44 junk drwxrwxrwx 1 couch users 0 Jun 22 09:45 keith2 terra /home/c/couch/reminder # ls -al total 2 drwxrwxr-x 2 couch users 1024 Jun 22 09:54 ./ drwx--x--x 13 couch users 1024 Jun 22 09:44 ../ -rwxrwxrwx 1 couch users 0 Jun 22 09:44 junk* -rwxrwxrwx 1 couch users 0 Jun 22 09:45 keith2* -- angio@aros.net Complete virtual hosting and business-oriented system administration Internet services. (WWW, FTP, email) http://www.aros.net/ http://www.aros.net/about/virtual "There are only two industries that refer to their customers as 'users'." From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 09:22:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA16237 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 09:22:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from london.cslab.uky.edu (root@london.cslab.uky.edu [128.163.215.174]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA16232 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 09:22:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from york.cslab.uky.edu (nathan@york [128.163.215.178]) by london.cslab.uky.edu (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id MAA14420 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 12:22:37 -0400 From: Nathaniel Wayne McConathy Received: (nathan@localhost) by york.cslab.uky.edu (8.6.12/8.6.10) id MAA20647 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 12:22:48 -0400 Message-Id: <199606221622.MAA20647@york.cslab.uky.edu> Subject: User PPP feature? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 12:22:47 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Reason for problem: My ISP automatically disconnects 2 hours after initial logon. Since I dont plan (at the moment at least) to run a web server, or carry news it is not a problem. However I would like to be able to access my machine from the outside world pretty much all of the time. In order to do this I need to setup my machine so that each time my ISP logs me off it dials up and reconnects, and then mails me a copy of the netstat at one of the other machines I have access to. My solution: Using the user PPP I configured the ppp.conf so that it dials and logs onto the remote machine. However in order to have all of this run automatically I added a line to the default: section of the ppp.conf that said dial My problem: whenever I run the user PPP with this configuration I recieve a segmentation fault error. Could someone confirm, explain, provide a solution to, this error. Thanks, Nathan From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 09:29:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA16738 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 09:29:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell.aros.net (root@shell.aros.net [205.164.111.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA16731 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 09:29:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from angio@localhost) by shell.aros.net (8.7.5/Unknown) id KAA00788 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 10:29:00 -0600 (MDT) From: Dave Andersen Message-Id: <199606221629.KAA00788@shell.aros.net> Subject: NFS question (one forgotten detail) To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 10:29:00 -0600 (MDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL13 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The FreeBSD system which mounts the remote drives is running 2.1-stable. The system that holds the drives is running Linux 1.2.13. (yeah, yeah. :-) -Dave -- angio@aros.net Complete virtual hosting and business-oriented system administration Internet services. (WWW, FTP, email) http://www.aros.net/ http://www.aros.net/about/virtual "There are only two industries that refer to their customers as 'users'." From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 09:33:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA17235 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 09:33:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.io.org (post.io.org [198.133.36.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA17213; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 09:33:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zap.io.org (taob@zap.io.org [198.133.36.81]) by post.io.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA25836; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 12:30:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 12:31:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Tao To: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS-L , FREEBSD-HACKERS-L cc: brian@mediacity.com Subject: Killing "unkilliable" processes waiting to drain tty Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Way back in the mists of time, Brian Litzinger wondered how one would go about killing a process that was stuck waiting for its tty to drain when exiting. Processes like that would look something like this: taob 18335 0.0 0.0 772 16 p6- IEs+ 15Jun96 0:00.31 -tcsh (tcsh) taob 16294 0.0 0.0 776 12 pe- IEs Sat05PM 0:00.29 (tcsh) taob 16315 0.0 0.0 1888 16 pe- IE+ Sat05PM 0:00.46 (pine392) You could kill -9 them all you want, but they would not go away. I didn't see any resolution to the immediate question of "How do I get rid of these processes, besides rebooting?" (search for "indestructible processes" in the freebsd-questions archives), and the problem still exists in the latest 2.2-SNAP. Anyhow, to make a long story short, try this: cat < /dev/ttyXX # replace XX as appropriate I don't know why I didn't try this before... it seems so blindingly obvious now. I was able to recover 7 tty's from a dozen stuck processes today. Phew. -- Brian Tao (BT300, taob@io.org, taob@ican.net) Systems and Network Administrator, Internet Canada Corp. "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't" From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 09:46:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA17936 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 09:46:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA17929 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 09:46:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com ([13.231.132.20]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14620(4)>; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 09:46:01 PDT Received: by gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com (4.1/SMI-4.1-TB) id AA15665; Sat, 22 Jun 96 12:45:33 EDT Message-Id: <9606221645.AA15665@gemini.sdsp.mc.xerox.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: (Works) Re: ps doesn't know why tasks are? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 21 Jun 1996 13:57:02 PDT." <9606212057.AA00780@gnu.mc.xerox.com> Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 09:45:32 PDT From: "Marty Leisner" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Have no idea what changed...I was building kernels, and the day after I wrote this note, its working... In message <9606212057.AA00780@gnu.mc.xerox.com>, you write: > >I have the 5.1.96 snapshot... > >Is this reasonable: > >ps > PID TT STAT TIME COMMAND > 3746 ?? Is+ 0:01.57 -bash (bash) > 1480 ?? Is+ 0:00.51 bash > 1656 ?? Is 0:07.64 bash > 3342 ?? S 0:01.78 bash -v > 4342 ?? R+ 0:00.03 ps > 3522 ?? Is 0:02.32 bash > 4290 ?? S+ 0:04.11 /usr/bin/make > 4339 ?? S+ 0:00.11 cc -c -O -W -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decl >s > 4341 ?? R+ 0:01.34 /usr/libexec/cc1 /var/tmp/cc004339.i -quiet -dumpbas >e > 153 v0 Is 0:02.08 -bash (bash) > > >Where is the TT in ps? >who and w both look ok. > >marty leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com >Member of the League for Programming Freedom (http://www.lpf.org) >Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic > Arthur C. Clarke, The Lost Worlds of 2001 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 10:29:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA20604 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 10:29:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from synwork.com (flaq@synwork.com [199.3.234.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA20596 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 10:29:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (flaq@localhost) by synwork.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA16250 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 12:29:50 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 12:29:49 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike K." To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: User vs kernel PPP Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a question. Until yesterday, I used to run PPP from a prompt and login and the ppp process used very little cpu time when looking at TOP. Now, I assume I am running kernel ppp since I have cron verify my modem connection and restart if it detects a dropped carrier. Below is a capture of my TOP and I am wondering if the amount of CPU time ppp is using is normal? Does this effect my system performance and is there a work around? load averages: 1.20, 1.08, 1.05 12:24:12 44 processes: 2 running, 42 sleeping Cpu states: 33.3% user, 0.0% nice, 65.1% system, 1.5% interrupt, 0.0% idle Memory: 16M Active, 2220K Inact, 4492K Wired, 2040K Cache, 1520K Free Swap: 77M Total, 65M Free, 15% Inuse PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 9567 root 90 0 476K 204K run 17.9H 83.77% 83.77% ppp 9283 flaq 2 0 4064K 3656K sleep 41:09 11.75% 11.75% Xaccel 16219 flaq 32 0 432K 836K run 0:00 5.34% 1.18% top 11879 flaq 2 0 1180K 1580K sleep 4:03 0.50% 0.50% irc-2.8.2-EPIC 16215 flaq 2 0 448K 1596K sleep 0:01 0.15% 0.15% xterm 9304 flaq 2 0 468K 460K sleep 1:30 0.11% 0.11% xterm 16216 flaq 18 0 640K 956K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 9311 flaq 18 0 640K 372K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% tcsh 115 root 18 0 280K 248K sleep 0:22 0.00% 0.00% cron 7288 flaq 18 0 644K 0K sleep 0:01 0.00% 0.00% 22 root 18 0 216K 0K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 102 root 10 0 372K 120K sleep 4:41 0.00% 0.00% httpd 1 root 10 0 364K 72K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% init 9276 flaq 10 0 476K 0K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% 11073 flaq 10 0 464K 0K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Syn-Work Media, Inc. | WWW Development & Hosting | Life Safety http://www.synwork.com | Systems Integration | CCTV mike@synwork.com | Voice/Data/Fiber | Access Control Flaq on IRC | Dukane Distributor | BICSI/RCDD ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 10:43:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA22113 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 10:43:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA22106; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 10:43:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk (jraynard.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.77]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id KAA27624 ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 10:43:09 -0700 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.12) id PAA17261; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 15:41:49 GMT Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 15:41:49 GMT Message-Id: <199606221541.PAA17261@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG CC: Eloy.Paris@ven.ra.rockwell.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <17850.835421300@palmer.demon.co.uk> (message from Gary Palmer on Sat, 22 Jun 1996 06:28:20 +0100) Subject: Re: Difference between -stable and -release? Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Gary Palmer writes: > > -stable is a source tree like -current. 2.1.0-RELEASE was released > from the -stable branch of our source repository. -stable is just a > continuance of that branch past the release. (Are you sure this isn't > in the docs somewhere? I thought I saw it, but can't remember where > now :-( ) It's in the "Advanced Topics" section of the handbook (Chapter 16 in the version at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/). -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 10:46:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA22329 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 10:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apollo.gti.net (boog@apollo.gti.net [199.171.27.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA22324 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 10:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (boog@localhost) by apollo.gti.net (8.7.5/8.7.6) with SMTP id NAA11986 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 13:46:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 13:46:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Interview w/ a boog To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: apache setup Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk sorry to bother again... I am running apache_1.0.3 which came with the 2.2 snapshot release I was told to put a few lines of code in /etc/rc... these lines start the apache httpd daemon upon boot...the problem, however is that i can lynx out, but not in, and there is no indication that i am running an httpd process when I do a 'ps -ax'. I put the path string for calling the httpd.conf file - (e.g. /usr/local/www/server/httpd -f /usr/local/www/server/conf/httpd.conf) but i get an error saying that the '-f' is an invalid parameter. this error comes during boot right after it launches the apache daemon. any suggestions are greatly appreciated...thanks in advance... -Gary From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 12:04:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA01707 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 12:04:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hod.tera.com (hod.tera.com [206.215.142.67]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA01701 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 12:04:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from athena.tera.com (athena.tera.com [206.215.142.62]) by hod.tera.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA18453; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 12:03:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Kline Received: (from kline@localhost) by athena.tera.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA16245; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 12:03:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606221903.MAA16245@athena.tera.com> Subject: Re: LFS anyone? To: jmb@freefall.freebsd.org (Jonathan M. Bresler) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 12:03:01 -0700 (PDT) Cc: anneb@svl.tec.army.mil, kline@tera.com, black@mr.net, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606212004.NAA22850@freefall.freebsd.org> from "Jonathan M. Bresler" at "Jun 21, 96 01:04:42 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Jonathan M. Bresler: > Anne Brink wrote: > > > > > According to Ben Black: > > > Seems like the LFS would make fsck's obsolete. Yes? No? > > > > > > Yes, LFS does some rollbacks after a crash, BUT, the file system is not > > checked. It's just assumed to be fine. Fsck actually does verify that you > > LFS works forward from a 'checkpoint' to reconstruct the filesystem > in the event of a crash. at the time the checkpoint was written > the filesystem was stable and consistent. there are two checkpoint > regions on disk, the active checkpoint toggles back and forth between > the two. the last item written to disk is the toggle. > > > like syslogs and mail logs and things like that. If you have lots of random > > file accesses, especially over NFS which caches things in blocks, not whole > > files, you may lose a /lot/ of the LFS functionality, and possibly get worse > > performance than with FFS. The LFS model isn't consistent with the concept > > of cylinder groups, but uses the theory of locality which helps its efficiency. > > As for a regular user file system? Well, I'd want to run some benchmarks. (-; > > memory, memory, memory. for LFS to be effective on general purpose > uses, you must have enough memory to satisfy a very large percentage > of reads from the (now unified vm and ) file cache. > > at least this is my understanding of LFS, i may be wrong > i imagine that i will find out ;) > Interesting stuff. For my own system, or for any system, data integrity is the critical issue. Memory is cheap (or at least reasonable); getting more so. gary (dreaming of those 4GB SIMM's :-) > From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 13:03:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA05754 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 13:03:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.aros.net (mailhub.aros.net [205.164.111.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA05745 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 13:03:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from terra.aros.net (terra.aros.net [205.164.111.10]) by mailhub.aros.net (8.7.5/Unknown) with ESMTP id OAA18965 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 14:46:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from angio@localhost) by terra.aros.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) id OAA00041 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 14:03:15 -0600 From: Dave Andersen Message-Id: <199606222003.OAA00041@terra.aros.net> Subject: ifconfig delete question. To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 14:03:15 -0600 (MDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 PGP2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there an easy way to delete all aliases on an interface under -stable (and not nuke the main IP address)? Currently, you can do: for (the number of aliases + 1) ifconfig delete which will sequentially delete all aliases and addresses on the interface, but I'd rather do something that doesn't actually delete the primary interface address as well. I know that under -current, you can con it in to listing all interfaces, but is there something that can be done under -stable? (The problem with deleting them all is that with tcp_keepalives enabled, oftentimes the command will hang after the primary interface has been deleted, and the command will terminate. Yes, you can nohup it, but it's an icky workaround. -Dave -- angio@aros.net Complete virtual hosting and business-oriented system administration Internet services. (WWW, FTP, email) http://www.aros.net/ http://www.aros.net/about/virtual "There are only two industries that refer to their customers as 'users'." From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 13:03:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA05755 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 13:03:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts7-line5.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA05743 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 13:03:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA00247; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 13:03:23 -0700 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 13:03:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Interview w/ a boog cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apache setup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 22 Jun 1996, Interview w/ a boog wrote: > sorry to bother again... > I am running apache_1.0.3 which came with the 2.2 snapshot release > > I was told to put a few lines of code in /etc/rc... > these lines start the apache httpd daemon upon boot...the problem, however > is that i can lynx out, but not in, and there is no indication that i am > running an httpd process when I do a 'ps -ax'. > I put the path string for calling the httpd.conf file - > (e.g. /usr/local/www/server/httpd -f > /usr/local/www/server/conf/httpd.conf) > but i get an error saying that the '-f' is an invalid parameter. this > error comes during boot right after it launches the apache daemon. If you have a 2.2 SNAP, then there is an option in /etc/sysconfig to turn on apache. Make sure httpd is in the normal path and set apache_httpd to YES in sysconfig. If it doesn't like -f, then don't use it. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 13:15:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA06194 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 13:15:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts7-line5.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA06189 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 13:15:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA00270; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 13:15:13 -0700 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 13:15:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Kenny cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.com Subject: Re: INSTALLATION In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960622094601.006c16ec@ma.ultranet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 22 Jun 1996, Kenny wrote: > During the install of FreeBSD 2.1 on my machine I chose some > software to install along with it in the setup menus. Then after all the AA > - CP floppies we're installed FreeBSD asked me for floppies that I didn't > have. Are those floppies the packages that I can download too? The packages don't come on floppies. You must have checked some other distributions and didn't make a floppy set for them, or you didn't get all the bin distribution pieces on the floppies. It should tell you which distribution it wants. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 13:24:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA06769 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 13:24:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts7-line5.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA06758 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 13:24:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA00287; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 13:24:29 -0700 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 13:24:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Dave Andersen cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: NFS weirdness. In-Reply-To: <199606221610.KAA06324@shell.aros.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 22 Jun 1996, Dave Andersen wrote: > This came up on one of my NFS mounted filesystems. The > /n/terra/home/couch directory is the NFS side of things, the terra > /home/c/couch side is the original filesystem. > > These files were created when uncompress bombed out, but I'm baffled that > they appear different on the two systems. > > Any idea what gives? I don't see any problems. /n/terra/home/c/couch/reminder is being exported, and is mounted under /home/c/couch/reminder. The data is all correct. That is NFS; what were you expecting? :-) I bet if you delete them in one place they will go away in the other. > /n/terra/home/c/couch/reminder >> ls -al > total 2 > drwxrwxr-x 2 couch users 1024 Jun 22 09:54 . > drwx--x--x 13 couch users 1024 Jun 22 09:44 .. > drwxrwxrwx 1 couch users 0 Jun 22 09:44 junk > drwxrwxrwx 1 couch users 0 Jun 22 09:45 keith2 > > > terra /home/c/couch/reminder # ls -al > total 2 > drwxrwxr-x 2 couch users 1024 Jun 22 09:54 ./ > drwx--x--x 13 couch users 1024 Jun 22 09:44 ../ > -rwxrwxrwx 1 couch users 0 Jun 22 09:44 junk* > -rwxrwxrwx 1 couch users 0 Jun 22 09:45 keith2* > > -- > angio@aros.net Complete virtual hosting and business-oriented > system administration Internet services. (WWW, FTP, email) > http://www.aros.net/ http://www.aros.net/about/virtual > "There are only two industries that refer to their customers as 'users'." > > Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 13:34:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA07505 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 13:34:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts7-line5.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.52]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA07500 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 13:34:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA00330; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 13:33:22 -0700 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 13:33:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Chris Lavin cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serial Communication In-Reply-To: <199606221451.KAA08354@only.justcompute.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 22 Jun 1996, Chris Lavin wrote: > NO what I am trying to do is to use my bsd box as a com server. I want to > have people dial in to the BSD machine then get automatically get telneted > to a remote site. I don't want them to ever see the login prompt. Can you > offer any assistance? Hm. You'll have to hack getty to call telnet instead of login. I wouldn't know how to do this. You could make an account like "bbs" with no password that as it's first action in .profile telnets to the desired location. The next line will be "exit". A hypothesis. There is undoubtedly a better way. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 14:12:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA09380 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 14:12:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts10-line9.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.107]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA09371 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 14:12:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA00387; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 14:12:25 -0700 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 14:12:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: b97001@lums.edu.pk cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XWin Config In-Reply-To: <199606190340.IAA27062@ravi.lums.edu.pk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 19 Jun 1996 b97001@lums.edu.pk wrote: > Here's all the detail that I think would help you in figuring out the problem. > As i said, it's a 486 DX@/66 with 8 MB RAM. The monitor that i have is DATAS > interlace, with the following horizontal & vertical scan frequencies: [omitted] > The video card i am using is Trident VGA (1 MB). > > The way i install the FreeBSD is that I have a CD of 2.0.5. However, since my > CD Drive is not scuzzy, what i do is that i copy the installation on the DOS > drive and then do the installation from there. I use xf86config program to make > the file. After making the config file, i run the 'X' program. First a blank > screen appears with twinkling stars, then a screen with background crosses > appears, with an X as a mouse pointr. Immediately afterwards, the system either > hangs, in which case i have to do Ctrl+Alt+BckSpace, or it starts to sync > discs. The message that appears is > Fatal Trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > Fault code: supervisor write, page not present > Then the system reboots. It panics? That is not good. I usually associate trap 12's with out of memory. Which X server are you using? You should be on either VGA16 or SVGA. You should use 'startx' to start the X server. > Well, that's all that i could figure out to be relevant. If there are any more > questions, please address them to b97001@lums.edu.pk. As you might have > guessed, i'm new to Unix OS. If there's a way in which i can redirect these > errors in some file, then i could send you the whole file. The X server's errors you can redirect as normal: startx > errors the > is "redirection" and takes the output and puts in the file given after the >. Just like DOS. :-) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 14:21:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA10030 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 14:21:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ekeberg.sn.no (ekeberg.sn.no [194.143.8.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA10021 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 14:21:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sinsen.sn.no (sinsen.sn.no [194.143.8.28]) by ekeberg.sn.no (8.7.5/8.7.3/on4) with ESMTP id for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 23:21:41 +0200 (MET DST) From: Oddbjørn Steffensen Received: (oste@localhost) by sinsen.sn.no (8.6.13/on1) id XAA00632 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 23:21:41 +0200 Message-Id: <199606222121.XAA00632@sinsen.sn.no> Subject: Dynamic linking To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 23:21:41 +0200 (MET DST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi. Can anyone point me to examples of programs that use dynamic linking (other than perl5), i.e. dlopen with friends ? I'm using a plain 2.1.0 installation. -oddbjorn From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 14:30:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA10653 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 14:30:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.aros.net (mailhub.aros.net [205.164.111.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA10643 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 14:30:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from terra.aros.net (terra.aros.net [205.164.111.10]) by mailhub.aros.net (8.7.5/Unknown) with ESMTP id QAA19318; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 16:13:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from angio@localhost) by terra.aros.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) id PAA04899; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 15:30:05 -0600 From: Dave Andersen Message-Id: <199606222130.PAA04899@terra.aros.net> Subject: Re: NFS weirdness. To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 15:30:04 -0600 (MDT) Cc: angio@aros.net, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Doug White" at Jun 22, 96 01:24:29 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 PGP2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Lo and behold, Doug White once said: > I don't see any problems. /n/terra/home/c/couch/reminder is being > exported, and is mounted under /home/c/couch/reminder. The data is all > correct. That is NFS; what were you expecting? :-) Look closely. On the original system, they're not directories. On the FreeBSD system that mounts them, they *are* directories. I consider this weird. :) -Dave > > drwxrwxrwx 1 couch users 0 Jun 22 09:44 junk > > drwxrwxrwx 1 couch users 0 Jun 22 09:45 keith2 > > terra /home/c/couch/reminder # ls -al > > -rwxrwxrwx 1 couch users 0 Jun 22 09:44 junk* > > -rwxrwxrwx 1 couch users 0 Jun 22 09:45 keith2* -- angio@aros.net Complete virtual hosting and business-oriented system administration Internet services. (WWW, FTP, email) http://www.aros.net/ http://www.aros.net/about/virtual "There are only two industries that refer to their customers as 'users'." From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 14:40:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA11422 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 14:40:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA11417 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 14:40:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA22792; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 14:35:59 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606222135.OAA22792@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: NFS weirdness. To: angio@aros.net (Dave Andersen) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 14:35:59 -0700 (MST) Cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, angio@aros.net, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199606222130.PAA04899@terra.aros.net> from "Dave Andersen" at Jun 22, 96 03:30:04 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > drwxrwxrwx 1 couch users 0 Jun 22 09:44 junk > drwxrwxrwx 1 couch users 0 Jun 22 09:45 keith2 > > -rwxrwxrwx 1 couch users 0 Jun 22 09:44 junk* > -rwxrwxrwx 1 couch users 0 Jun 22 09:45 keith2* Looks like the server is not doing search restart for the LOOKUP op in the middle of a directory correctly, or is giving bad data on the STAT. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 14:44:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA11740 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 14:44:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA11735 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 14:44:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA22804; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 14:40:28 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606222140.OAA22804@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: true type fonts and/or deskjet 500 soft fonts To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 14:40:28 -0700 (MST) Cc: mgessner@winc.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Doug White" at Jun 22, 96 00:29:27 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I'm looking for information on software that might let me use Windows > > TrueType fonts on my FreeBSD system. I have a DeskJet 500 attached, > > and the built in fonts leave a bit to be desired. > > Doesn't exist currently. > > But you can do postscript with ghostscript. I thought the X server could do TrueType... If nothing else, you can process the TrueType fonts into BDF fonts at each given point size, and then process those into binary font files for use by X (I thought the tools for doing this were on the Adobe site, last time I lokked -- thoug it could have been they came with FrameMaker). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 14:46:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA11823 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 14:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from milpitas.adaptec.com (milpitas.adaptec.com [162.62.21.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA11818 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 14:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from btc.btc.adaptec.com ([162.62.63.6]) by milpitas.adaptec.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20358; Sat, 22 Jun 96 14:42:42 PDT Received: from Unknown (cosmos.btc.adaptec.com [162.62.63.104]) by btc.btc.adaptec.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA13219; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 15:46:10 -0600 Message-Id: <199606222146.PAA13219@btc.btc.adaptec.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Aaron Dailey" To: Terry Lambert , Nate Williams Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 15:35:41 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: PS/Valuepoint and keyboard hang on install Cc: aarond@btc.btc.adaptec.com, questions@freebsd.org Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.33) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:42:42 -0600 > From: Nate Williams > To: Terry Lambert > Cc: aarond@btc.btc.adaptec.com, questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: PS/Valuepoint and keyboard hang on install > > > > > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 2.1 Release on an IBM PS/Valuepoint > > > > > 6384, and get a keyboard lock once everything boots. > > > > I don't see a psm0 driver. Once I get to visual, under input devices > > > I have bus mouse (mse0) and syscons (sc0?). This is on the 2.1 > > > release boot disk. Am I missing something? > > > > Argh. You may need to get a boot disk from Nate Williams; is this > > a PS/2 style keyboard interface? Do you know if the keyboard starts > > in mode 3? > > If it does, you can try the ThinkPad boot floppy out, but that doesn't > fix 'lockups'. When you are in the wrong mode, it's pretty obvious as > every key you touch doesn't do what you want it to do. (But it *does* > do something). > > You could try 'bouncing on the num-lock' key during bootup to see if > that helps. If it does then we've still got the lurking bug, but > generally speaking it goes away after you build a custom kernel. > > > > Nate > > An update of where I'm at . . . I've tried disabling L1 (on CPU) cache, to no avail. I don't have L2 cache. I already do have 8 MB of memory, so I don't think I'm running into memory constraints. I have also tried pounding on the num lock key after the uncompress message in the boot disk, but also to no luck there either. One thing I want to try is pulling out my DX4/100, and just running with the original SX/25, which would also run the whole VL BUS at 25 MHZ. Any other ideas? Aaron Dailey From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 15:06:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA12737 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 15:06:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jolt.eng.umd.edu (jolt.eng.umd.edu [129.2.102.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12732 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 15:06:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from maryann.eng.umd.edu (maryann.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.209]) by jolt.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA04974; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 18:06:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by maryann.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA11083; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 18:06:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 18:06:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@maryann.eng.umd.edu To: Oddbjxrn Steffensen cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dynamic linking In-Reply-To: <199606222121.XAA00632@sinsen.sn.no> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 22 Jun 1996, Oddbjxrn Steffensen wrote: > Hi. > > Can anyone point me to examples of programs that use > dynamic linking (other than perl5), i.e. dlopen with > friends ? tcl75/tk41 does dynamic linking. I checked, it actually works. > > I'm using a plain 2.1.0 installation. > > -oddbjorn > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 15:07:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA12768 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 15:07:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12757 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 15:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-9.ime.net [206.231.149.18]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA19183; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 18:07:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31CC6EB0.4A09@ime.net> Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 18:07:45 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Raynard CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: COBOL compiler with FreeBSD References: <199606212242.WAA10408@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk James Raynard wrote: > > >>>>> Gary Chrysler writes: > > > > At that time I was working in MSVC/MFC, And was in search for a > > BP7.0 pascal2c translator. Never did find one that was comp. > > Wound up having to learn more pascal then I desired to. :( > > There is a free Pascal-to-C converter (p2c) that claims to accept > Borland syntax; I'd be surprised if no-one's ported it to DOS. > > BTW it's in the FreeBSD ports if you're feeling nostalgic 8-) Yea, I checked it out, It's next to worthless. :( It's not to smart when it comes to BP7.0 code. I ported it to dos. :) It's still needed a bit of training so I dumped it and learned enough pascal to get me out of the tight spot I was in.. :) -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 15:39:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA13968 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 15:39:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail (mail.bcpl.lib.md.us [204.255.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA13962 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 15:39:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp97.bcpl.lib.md.us by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA27947; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 18:40:04 +0500 Received: by ppp97.bcpl.lib.md.us with Microsoft Mail id <01BB606A.47957E40@ppp97.bcpl.lib.md.us>; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 18:40:26 -0400 Message-Id: <01BB606A.47957E40@ppp97.bcpl.lib.md.us> From: Anil John To: "'FreeBSD Questions'" Subject: Compiling kernel for ATAPI CD-ROM error - fatal signal 11- what is it? Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 18:40:25 -0400 Encoding: 54 TEXT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, I am trying to recompile 2.1 RELEASE kernel to take advantage of an ATAPI IDE CD-ROM. I copied my GENERIC configuration file to a new one called HAMMER. The only change made to the config file was to take out the # on: options ATAPI device wcd0 and to delete cpu "I386_CPU" cpu "I586_CPU" since I have a 486DX/66 'wcd0c' and 'rwcd0c' are present in the /dev directory from my original installation. Ran config on HAMMER. Changed to the HAMMER directory and ran make. My compile stopped with the following error: -------- June 22 17:31:56 hammer /kernel: pid 453: cc1: uid 0: exited on signal 11 cc: Interal compiler error: program as got fatal signal 11 *** Error code 1 Stop. ---------- I would appreciate some help deciphering this deep magic. I am a very new FreeBSD user so please do not take any knowledge for granted :). I am using the directions in Greg Lehey's 'Installing and Running FreeBSD' to rebuild the kernel. My Configuration: 486 DX2/66 8 MB of RAM ATI Graphics Xpression Promise EIDE Controller (BIOS disabled), My Hard disk is directly recognized from the system bios. WD 730 Meg EIDE hard disk split between DOS and FreeBSD as Master on First IDE Controller. Creative Labs 4x IDE CD-ROM as Master on second IDE controller. wdc0 and wdc1 are recognized on boot up probe and the Hard disk is installed but the CD ROM is not. Anil ___________________________________________________________ CyberForge Group LLC * Internet Consulting E-Mail: ajohn@cyberforge.com * WWW Publishing 410-597-8139 * LAN & WAN Integration URL: http://www.cyberforge.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 16:37:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA17341 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 16:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail (mail.bcpl.lib.md.us [204.255.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA17328 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 16:37:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp97.bcpl.lib.md.us by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA02824; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 19:37:59 +0500 Received: by ppp97.bcpl.lib.md.us with Microsoft Mail id <01BB6072.5EB9E540@ppp97.bcpl.lib.md.us>; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 19:38:21 -0400 Message-Id: <01BB6072.5EB9E540@ppp97.bcpl.lib.md.us> From: Anil John To: "'FreeBSD Questions'" Subject: Compiling kernel for ATAPI CD-ROM error - fatal signal 11- what is it? Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 19:38:20 -0400 Encoding: 56 TEXT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Oops...Sorry. I had sent this message out previously with the wrong reply address. Apologies. ========================== I am trying to recompile 2.1 RELEASE kernel to take advantage of an ATAPI IDE CD-ROM. I copied my GENERIC configuration file to a new one called HAMMER. The only change made to the config file was to take out the # on: options ATAPI device wcd0 and to delete cpu "I386_CPU" cpu "I586_CPU" since I have a 486DX/66 'wcd0c' and 'rwcd0c' are present in the /dev directory from my original installation. Ran config on HAMMER. Changed to the HAMMER directory and ran make. My compile stopped with the following error: -------- June 22 17:31:56 hammer /kernel: pid 453: cc1: uid 0: exited on signal 11 cc: Interal compiler error: program as got fatal signal 11 *** Error code 1 Stop. ---------- I would appreciate some help deciphering this deep magic. I am a very new FreeBSD user so please do not take any knowledge for granted :). I am using the directions in Greg Lehey's 'Installing and Running FreeBSD' to rebuild the kernel. My Configuration: 486 DX2/66 8 MB of RAM ATI Graphics Xpression Promise EIDE Controller (BIOS disabled), My Hard disk is directly recognized from the system bios. WD 730 Meg EIDE hard disk split between DOS and FreeBSD as Master on First IDE Controller. Creative Labs 4x IDE CD-ROM as Master on second IDE controller. wdc0 and wdc1 are recognized on boot up probe and the Hard disk is installed but the CD ROM is not. Anil ___________________________________________________________ CyberForge Group LLC * Internet Consulting E-Mail: ajohn@cyberforge.com * WWW Publishing 410-597-8139 * LAN & WAN Integration URL: http://www.cyberforge.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 17:09:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA18783 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 17:09:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crier.camelot.net (crier.camelot.net [206.149.148.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA18778 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 17:09:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606230009.RAA18778@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: from [206.149.148.138] by camelot.net id 66980.wrk; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 12:52:50 EDT Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 17:09:03 -0700 From: "George A. Gore" <"swetc@crier.camelot.net"@crier.camelot.net> Organization: Spectra, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Obtaining FreeBSD X-URL: ftp://ftp3.FreeBSD.ORG/pub/FreeBSD/2.1.0-RELEASE/README.TXT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How exactly do you obtain a copy of FreeBSD 2.1.0. I have visited the WWW and FTP sites but cannot figure out which files i need to download to get FreeBSD up and running. I just need to know what files to download and then i can start using it. Oh yeah, i already downloaded some file called rawrite.exe, have no clue what it does, but i think that it is like a formatter for UNIX systems. Thanx Guys From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 17:34:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA19350 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 17:34:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA19334 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 17:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA23282; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 17:30:20 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199606230030.RAA23282@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: PS/Valuepoint and keyboard hang on install To: aarond@btc.adaptec.com (Aaron Dailey) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 17:30:19 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, nate@sri.MT.net, aarond@btc.btc.adaptec.com, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606222146.PAA13219@btc.btc.adaptec.com> from "Aaron Dailey" at Jun 22, 96 03:35:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > An update of where I'm at . . . I've tried disabling L1 (on CPU) > cache, to no avail. I don't have L2 cache. I already do have 8 MB > of memory, so I don't think I'm running into memory constraints. > > I have also tried pounding on the num lock key after the uncompress > message in the boot disk, but also to no luck there either. > > One thing I want to try is pulling out my DX4/100, and just running > with the original SX/25, which would also run the whole VL BUS at 25 > MHZ. Not off the top of my head; let us know what the 25 does. You know that a DX/4 is actually clock-tripled, right? You aren't accidently running a 100MHz internal clock at 133MHz... Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 18:00:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA20308 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 18:00:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prop (root@prop.caribnet.net [205.214.195.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA20302 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 18:00:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 20:59:52 -0400 (AST) From: Sean Batson X-Sender: valtech@PPP27.SUNBEACH.NET To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: James Raynard , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Offical Release of 2.2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Well the last time I checked it doesn't because I'm using the 2.1-Release. and have been with out the use of my Atapi IDE CD-ROM for quite some time. On Fri, 21 Jun 1996, Doug White wrote: > On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Sean Batson wrote: > > > would 2.1.5 have support for the atapi mitsumi cd rom? > > 2.1-RELEASE has support for this, last I checked. > > Doug White | University of Oregon > Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 18:14:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA20656 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 18:14:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from burka.carrier.kiev.ua (root@burka.carrier.kiev.ua [193.125.68.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA20648 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 18:14:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sivka.carrier.kiev.ua (root@sivka.carrier.kiev.ua [193.125.68.130]) by burka.carrier.kiev.ua (Sendmail 8.who.cares/5) with ESMTP id EAA18284 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 04:14:07 +0300 Received: from merin.carrier.kiev.ua (merin.carrier.kiev.ua [193.125.68.133]) by sivka.carrier.kiev.ua (Sendmail 8.who.cares/5) with ESMTP id EAA28961 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 04:14:06 +0300 Received: (roman@localhost) by merin.carrier.kiev.ua (Sendmail 8.who.cares/5) id EAA06076 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 04:14:06 +0300 From: Roman Sinyuk Message-Id: <199606230114.EAA06076@merin.carrier.kiev.ua> Subject: Install problem To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 04:14:05 +0300 (GMT+0300) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Help me please !!! (FreeBSD 2.1.0) I have AHA2940 SCSI-card and 1.01Gb HDD, but FreeBSD can't create filesystem or swap if its size more 50M (system hang). HDD geometry parametrs detected correctly. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 18:19:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA20836 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 18:19:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ki.net (root@ki.net [205.150.102.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA20822 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 18:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by ki.net (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id VAA02474; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 21:18:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 21:18:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Sean Batson cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, James Raynard , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Offical Release of 2.2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 22 Jun 1996, Sean Batson wrote: > Well the last time I checked it doesn't because I'm using the 2.1-Release. I think Doug made a mistake...not 2.1-RELEASE...2.1-STABLE: # ATAPI enables the support for ATAPI-compatible IDE devices # options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus > and have been with out the use of my Atapi IDE CD-ROM for quite some time. > > > > On Fri, 21 Jun 1996, Doug White wrote: > > > On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, Sean Batson wrote: > > > > > would 2.1.5 have support for the atapi mitsumi cd rom? > > > > 2.1-RELEASE has support for this, last I checked. > > > > Doug White | University of Oregon > > Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > > > > > > > Marc G. Fournier scrappy@ki.net Systems Administrator @ ki.net scrappy@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 18:27:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA21242 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 18:27:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home.lenzi ([200.247.7.213]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA21232 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 18:27:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lenzi@localhost) by home.lenzi (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA14478; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 16:16:21 GMT Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 16:16:21 +0000 () From: "Lenzi, Sergio" X-Sender: lenzi@home To: Kenneth Ingham cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I want PPP to stay up all the time In-Reply-To: <199606202336.RAA00786@cube.i-pi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 20 Jun 1996, Kenneth Ingham wrote: > OS: FreeBSD 2.1. > > I'm have a full-time (modem) ppp connection to the internet. I'd like the > link to stay up all the time. What happens now with both kernel and user PPP > is that if the link drops (i.e. due to a noisy phone line), it stays down. > > I've gone over the man pages and the FreeBSD Handbook and have found nothing > that seems to help. I would dig through the source, but my CD drive is dead > (but under warranty, so will eventually be replaced). > Hello Kenneth. I use the /etc/ttys file to resolv it. I put a line in the form... cuaa1 "/usr/sbin/pppd -detach passive /dev/cuaa1 57600" vt100 on secure so if the ppp drops, the init program start it over again... From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 18:28:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA21319 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 18:28:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home.lenzi ([200.247.7.213]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA21309 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 18:28:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lenzi@localhost) by home.lenzi (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA14241; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 13:14:37 GMT Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 13:14:36 +0000 () From: "Lenzi, Sergio" X-Sender: lenzi@home To: Eric Chan cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Printing problem... In-Reply-To: <199606190749.RAA29050@moredun.nswcc.org.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, Eric Chan wrote: > Hi, > > I have a problem on dealing with the printing which is the banner > page goes at the last page. What para do I need to set on printcap file in > order to get it fixed? Besides, what para is set to suppress the banner page? > > Thank you for your help Hello Eric. I use this printcap entries, and it prints without any banner at all. # @(#)printcap 5.3 (Berkeley) 6/30/90 lp|local line printer:\ :lp=/dev/lpt0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp: \ :mx#0:so:sh:sb:of=xxxxxxx:sf From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 18:33:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA21498 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 18:33:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home.lenzi ([200.247.7.213]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA21493 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 18:33:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lenzi@localhost) by home.lenzi (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA14235; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 13:12:32 GMT Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 13:12:31 +0000 () From: "Lenzi, Sergio" X-Sender: lenzi@home To: Igor Vinokurov cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: /usr/bin/chat don't work? In-Reply-To: <199606190732.LAA05837@escape.cs.ibank.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, Igor Vinokurov wrote: > Hello, > > I have problem :) > > Under 2.1R I use slattach with /usr/bin/chat as modem dialer (which > send to modem ATZ/ATDT/etc) and enjoying... But I install new 960606 > SNAP and chat does't work :( > > Any changes in kernel/etc? Can I continue use chat for this task or > you suggest another program? Anyway, any ideas? > > P.S: Sorry for my English :( I use chat also on my 2.1 and now on 2.2 SNAP 960105 version. I use pppd for connections and see that the system does not start chat when cannot resolv ip address. Solution: 1) modify /etc/host.conf to read /etc/hosts first and after, bind. 2) if you are running named, it cannot find the root name server "." 3) check if your system can find the default gateway "ping defaultgateway". By the time I fixed this, My slip/ppp/chat start to working ok. Your English is very good.. Don't be shy!! From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 18:34:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA21637 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 18:34:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ceres.brunel.ac.uk (pp@ceres.brunel.ac.uk [134.83.176.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA21632 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 18:34:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk by ceres.brunel.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Sun, 23 Jun 1996 02:34:02 +0100 Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id CAA22885; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 02:26:25 +0100 (BST) To: "Marc G. Fournier" cc: Sean Batson , dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, James Raynard , questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Gary Palmer Subject: Re: Offical Release of 2.2 In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 22 Jun 1996 21:18:31 EDT." Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 02:26:23 +0100 Message-ID: <22874.835493183@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Marc G. Fournier" wrote in message ID : > On Sat, 22 Jun 1996, Sean Batson wrote: > > > Well the last time I checked it doesn't because I'm using the 2.1-Release. > > I think Doug made a mistake...not 2.1-RELEASE...2.1-STABLE: > > # ATAPI enables the support for ATAPI-compatible IDE devices > # > options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus No, I believe that ATAPI was in 2.1R too ... I had to do phone tech support for 2.1R for a while. ATAPI problems ranked #1 :-( Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 19:05:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA22865 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 19:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailserver.newtrend.com (mailserver.newtrend.com [206.216.135.152]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA22855 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 19:05:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orion.newtrend.com (orion.newtrend.com [206.216.135.153]) by mailserver.newtrend.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA12933 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 19:06:26 -0700 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 19:06:26 -0700 Message-Id: <199606230206.TAA12933@mailserver.newtrend.com> X-Sender: freebsd@mailserver.newtrend.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: freebsd@newtrend.com (FreeBSD) Subject: arp_rtrequest: bad gateway value message Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Can anybody tell me what does this means and where it comes from. /kernel: arp_rtrequest: bad gateway value Recently, we have replaced a failed router and crashed our system a few times. Since that time this message will show when the server is rebooted. Thank you in advance. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 19:15:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA23298 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 19:15:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netcom13.netcom.com (lewiz@netcom13.netcom.com [192.100.81.125]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA23293 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 19:15:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lewiz@localhost) by netcom13.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id TAA19978; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 19:15:01 -0700 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 19:15:01 -0700 From: lewiz@netcom.com (Lewcifer) Message-Id: <199606230215.TAA19978@netcom13.netcom.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: How to clone IDE boot disk? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have an IDE boot disk with a DOS partition. I need to clone this onto another (larger) IDE disk drive. - What is the procedure for adding a new drive? Is it as ugly as it was for 2.0.5? - How do I make a partition bootable? I am running with the latest SNAP release. Thanks, Joe joe@vianet (you might cc: lewiz@netcom.com also) From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 19:23:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA23662 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 19:23:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home.lenzi ([200.247.7.213]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA23642 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 19:22:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lenzi@localhost) by home.lenzi (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA15033; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 23:28:26 GMT Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 23:28:26 +0000 () From: "Lenzi, Sergio" X-Sender: lenzi@home To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Portuguese keyboard. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello all. I have build an file for mapping the portuguese keyboard for BRAZIL machines. It works OK. but only on the console. If I run it on X, some keys are messed some not. mainly the "/" key that is mapped as scancode:115. Please someone tell me where are the keymaps for the X??? I intend to put the keymap on the next release if possible... The keymap source (in package format) is in ftp://ftp.bsi.com.br/pub/FreeBSD/misc/brkbd.tgz Thanks, Lenzi. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 20:17:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA25959 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 20:17:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA25941; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 20:17:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seagull.rtd.com (root@seagull.rtd.com [198.102.68.2]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id UAA29227 ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 20:16:54 -0700 Received: (from dgy@localhost) by seagull.rtd.com (8.7.5/1.2) id UAA06578; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 20:14:05 -0700 (MST) From: Don Yuniskis Message-Id: <199606230314.UAA06578@seagull.rtd.com> Subject: Re: syscons fonts To: denis@satty.npi.msu.su (Denis V Kalinin) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 20:14:04 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freefall.FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD hackers), freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD questions) In-Reply-To: from "Denis V Kalinin" at Jun 22, 96 08:32:27 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings! > I do not recommend you to dig this. > As far as I understand historicaly > it appeared to be more than 10 different > syscons for russian language. > > KOI-7, KOI-8, CP1251, CP866, ISO-8859-5, EBSDEC ( or something > similar) and each of them has it's own modifications (shifted etc.). > There's no real way to choose the one from them as > russian (don't ask why). > ISO-8859-* is a international standard for syscons ( it exists > but noone actually uses it except XOpen ). > > Can someone explain/name the iso-*, cp866-* and koi8-* fonts? I guess the question I was asking is for a NAME for these fonts. For example, cp850 would be "Multilingual/Latin I", cp865 would be "Nordic", etc. koi8 would be "Russian"? "Cyrillic"?? And, is "iso-" ISO8859-1, -2, -3, etc.?? > > And the purpose of the 8x14 fonts? These are for 43 line EGA, I've been told. > > And the differences between the "", "b" and "c" versions of > > the 866 and koi8 fonts? "Stylistic" differences...? From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 21:03:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA27760 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 21:03:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fiber.net (root@optical.fiber.net [204.250.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA27755 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 21:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from daytona.fiber.net by fiber.net (NX5.67f2/NX3.0M) id AA11180; Sat, 22 Jun 96 22:11:00 -0600 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 96 22:11:00 -0600 X-Fibernet-Tip: Don't quote more than you contribute! Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19960623040539.2cdfe348@mail.fiber.net> X-Sender: cpayne@mail.fiber.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Carl Payne Subject: Is this appropriate? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have an installation problem. Is this list an appropriate venue? If not, would someone kindly pass me a more proper outlet for my anger? Carl From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 21:46:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA29384 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 21:46:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.sri.MT.net (rocky.sri.MT.net [204.182.243.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA29370 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 21:46:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.sri.MT.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA16980; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 22:46:23 -0600 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 22:46:23 -0600 From: Nate Williams Message-Id: <199606230446.WAA16980@rocky.sri.MT.net> To: "Aaron Dailey" Cc: Nate Williams , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PS/Valuepoint and keyboard hang on install In-Reply-To: <199606222146.PAA13219@btc.btc.adaptec.com> References: <199606222146.PAA13219@btc.btc.adaptec.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > > > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 2.1 Release on an IBM PS/Valuepoint > > > > > > 6384, and get a keyboard lock once everything boots. > > An update of where I'm at . . . I've tried disabling L1 (on CPU) > cache, to no avail. I don't have L2 cache. I already do have 8 MB > of memory, so I don't think I'm running into memory constraints. Probably not, but you may want to try using a newer boot floppy from the -stable sNAP. > I have also tried pounding on the num lock key after the uncompress > message in the boot disk, but also to no luck there either. :( Well, I'm not sure what's up then. I've yet to see a keyboard that didn't get fixed by bouncing on the num-lock. > One thing I want to try is pulling out my DX4/100, and just running > with the original SX/25, which would also run the whole VL BUS at 25 > MHZ. Try that out and see. Nate ps. Sorry for the bounce, I screwed up my email. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jun 22 23:39:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA04384 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 23:39:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wort.appsmiths.com (wort.appsmiths.com [198.65.131.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA04379 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 1996 23:39:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from hoppy@localhost) by wort.appsmiths.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA12216; Sun, 23 Jun 1996 01:41:18 -0500 Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 01:41:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Hoppy To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone have a good pointer to a newer working version of Majordomo for 2.1.0. We are currently running a hacked up version 1.9.3, and are looking for something a little easier to tame. =============================================================================== Clay D. Hopperdietzel hoppy@appsmiths.com AppSmiths, Inc. Voice (713) 578-0154 Fax (713) 578-6182 15915 Katy Fwy, Suite 470 Where do *I* Want to Go Today? Houston, Texas 77094 FreeBSD!