From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 00:12:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA14244 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 00:12:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.netvision.net.il (mail.NetVision.net.il [194.90.1.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA14231 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 00:12:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netvision.net.il.netvision.net.il (ts010p5.pop4a.netvision.net.il [194.90.3.187]) by mail.netvision.net.il (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA26524 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 10:11:14 +0300 (IDT) Message-ID: <31D6FAE5.1669@netvision.net.il> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 15:08:37 -0700 From: Igal Rubinstein X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Xwindows & finger X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi ! Recently, I moved to FreeBSD, and as usual, a newbie must ask something. So my questions are: My domain name is rilv.net.il, when I try: finger root, it works ok and I see info about myself, however, when I try: finger root@rilv.net.il I receive: [rilv.net.il] and thats all ... Then, I opened for myself additional account, called igal, and I decided to send mail from root to igal. I wrote: mail igal subject: Dont worry be happy (for example) ggdagdg ggdsagdsgsd gdgsdagasgs ghsdahhg And it worked. But when I did mail igal@rilv.net.il and sent the same message, it did not worked, and I even received message about DELIVERY ERROR any ideas ? My second question is very simple: (but not for me) I use Xwindows and color_xterm, all options at color_xterm work ok except one -bw or -w (it is the same). When I try to change width nothing happens. So, if you can help me please reply. My address is: datcos@netvision.net.il From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 00:17:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA14574 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 00:17:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from krypton.ip.org (krypton.ip.org [206.30.205.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA14568 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 00:17:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by krypton.ip.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id DAA01340 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 03:16:33 -0400 From: "Eric L. Hinson" Message-Id: <199606300716.DAA01340@krypton.ip.org> Subject: BitSurfr Pro --> Livingston 5-BRI at 128K? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 03:16:33 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL15 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am trying to establish a ~128k connection from a FreeBSD-stable machine= =20 running user process ppp with a BitSurfr Pro to a BRI port on a Livingston= =20 PortMaster. I have been successful at getting both 56k/async and=20 64k/async connections, but have been unable to get both channels going=20 at the same time. My current connection allows my LAN at home to connect to the ISP I maintain. Has someone out there got this to work? If so, could you please share=20 with me how you accomplished this? I would like to establish the highest speed/performance link possible with my configuration, and greatly= =20 appreciate any and all help you can provide. Thanks for your help. Eric My /etc/ppp.conf entries: - - - - - - - - - - - - -=20 default: set device /dev/cuaa1 set speed 115200 set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER ABORT NO\\sDIALTONE TIMEOUT 5 \"\"= AT OK-AT-OK ATE0 OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 10 CONNECT" auglink: set phone 824xxxx set timeout 0 set login "TIMEOUT 5 login:-\\r-login: admin-ppp word: my_password" set ifaddr 206.30.205.20 205.216.79.18 255.255.255.240 add 0 255.255.255.240 205.216.79.18 set debug phase chat lcp disable lqr dial entry in the RADIUS /etc/raddb/users file looks like: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - admin-ppp Password =3D "my_password"=20 User-Service-Type =3D Framed-User, Framed-Protocol =3D PPP, Framed-Address =3D 206.30.205.20, Framed-Netmask =3D 255.255.255.240, Framed-Routing =3D None, Framed-MTU =3D 1500, Framed-Compression =3D None BitSurfr Pro configuration: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - atii1i2i3=0D 960 22BC 4574190-1F 3B3122BC PASS OK at&v DATA PORT ACTIVE PROFILE: E1 Q0 V1 W1 X2 &C1 &D2 &L0 &M0 &R1 &S0 &Y0 \Q3=20 %A2=3D2 %A4=3D0 %A93=3DD %A94=3DD %A95=3DE %A96=3D0 %A97=3DE %A98=3DD =20 @B0=3D2 @IS=3DD @N0=3D0 @N1=3D0 @P1=3DA @P2=3D115200 @P3=3DN @P4=3D8 @P6= =3D0 @G=3DD=20 S00:001 S01:000 S02:043 S03:013 S04:010 S05:008 S07:030 S10:014 S12:050 S18= :000 S25:005 S26:001=20 DATA PORT STORED PROFILE 0: E1 Q0 V1 W1 X2 &C1 &D2 &L &M0 &R1 &S0 &Y \Q3=20 %A2=3D2 %A4=3D0 %A93=3DD %A94=3DD %A95=3DE %A96=3D0 %A97=3DE %A98=3DD =20 @B0=3D2 @IS @N0=3D0 @N1=3D0 @P1=3DA @P2=3D115200 @P3=3DN @P4=3D8 @P6=3D0= @G =20 S00:001 S01:000 S02:043 S03:013 S04:010 S05:008 S07:030 S10:014 S12:050 S18= :000 S25:005 S26:001=20 at>v=3Dc DATA PORT DN, SPID, AND TEI: ACTIVE !N1=3D904823xxxx !C6=3D904823xxxx0100 !D3= =3D255=20 STORED !N1=3D904823xxxx !C6=3D904823xxxx0100 !D3= =3D255=20 POTS PORT 1 DN, SPID, AND TEI: ACTIVE *!N1=3D904823yyyy *!C6=3D904823yyyy0100 *!D3= =3D255=20 STORED *!N1=3D904823yyyy *!C6=3D904823yyyy0100 *!D3= =3D255=20 POTS PORT 2 DN, SPID, AND TEI: ACTIVE *2!N1=3D904823xxxx *2!C6=3D904823xxxx0100 *2!D3= =3D255=20 STORED *2!N1=3D904823xxxx *2!C6=3D904823xxxx0100 *2!D3= =3D255=20 at>v=3Dg SWITCH: !C0=3D2 !C1=3D4 !C4=3D0 !C5=3D0 !C9=3D0=20 FEATURE ACTIVATORS: !V3=3D60 !V4=3D62 !V5=3D61 !V8=3D63=20 OK current session/port information from the PortMaster: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - (my 64k link is currently up on s14. I am trying to connect to both s14=20 and s15). arbol> sh all S14 64000 on ptp14 Netwrk ESTABLISHED 2147231 3347855 = 0 S15 64000 on Netwrk IDLE 0 42 = 0 arbol> sh ses Port User Host/Inet/Dest Type Dir Status Start Id= le ---- --------------- ---------------- ------- --- ------------- ------ ----= -- S14 sysadmin-ppp krypton.ip.org Netwrk In ESTABLISHED 11 = 0 S15 - - Netwrk In IDLE 0 = 0 arbol> sh s14 --------------------- Current Status - ISDN Port S14 ----------------------= -- Status: ESTABLISHED Input: 2146583 Abort Errors: 0 Output: 3345231 CRC Errors: 0 Pending: 16 Overrun Errors: 0 TX Errors: 0 Frame Errors: 0 Modem Status: DCD+ CTS+ TELCO+ NT1+ Disconnect: Normal Clearing Active Configuration Default Configuration -------------------- --------------------- Port Type: Netwrk Login/Netwrk (Dial In) (Security) Line Speed: 64000/async 64000 Remote Host: krypton.ip.org =20 Netmask: 255.255.255.240 0.0.0.0 Interface: ptp14 (PPP,Quiet,Compre (SLIP,Quiet) Mtu: 576 576 SPID: 904824xxxx0100 Directory No: 904824xxxx Dial Group: 0 arbol> sh s15 --------------------- Current Status - ISDN Port S15 ----------------------= -- Status: IDLE Input: 0 Abort Errors: 0 Output: 42 CRC Errors: 0 Pending: 0 Overrun Errors: 0 TX Errors: 0 Frame Errors: 0 Modem Status: DCD- CTS+ TELCO+ NT1+ Disconnect: Normal Clearing Active Configuration Default Configuration -------------------- --------------------- Port Type: Netwrk Netwrk (Dial In) (Security) Line Speed: 64000 64000 Interface: Unassigned (SLIP,Listen (SLIP,Quiet) Mtu: 0 0 Login Message:=20 AugLink Communications, Inc. Connected to Terminal Server #3 (arbol) SPID: 904824yyyy0100 Directory No: 904824xxxx Dial Group: 0 routing tables on the machine dialing out on the BitSurfr Pro at 64k: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - krypton# netstat -rn Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 205.216.79.18 UGc 2 0 tun0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 1 11 lo0 205.216.79.18 206.30.205.20 UH 3 103 tun0 206.30.205.16 link#2 UC 1 0=20 206.30.205.20 127.0.0.1 UGHS 1 10 lo0 224 link#2 UCS 0 0=20 krypton# netstat -in Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Ierrs Opkts Oerrs Coll fxp0* 1500 00.a0.c9.03.42.44 0 0 0 0 0 ed0 1500 00.00.c0.a6.96.8d 46 0 11 0 0 ed0 1500 206.30.205. 206.30.205.20 46 0 11 0 0 lp0* 1500 0 0 0 0 0 lo0 16384 21 0 21 0 0 lo0 16384 127 127.0.0.1 21 0 21 0 0 ppp0* 1500 0 0 0 0 0 sl0* 552 0 0 0 0 0 tun0 576 2909 0 3417 0 0 tun0 576 206.30.205. 206.30.205.20 2909 0 3417 0 0 ifconfig settings on machine with BitSurfr TA PPP 64k session running: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - krypton# ifconfig tun0 tun0: flags=3D8051 mtu 576 inet 206.30.205.20 --> 205.216.79.18 netmask 0xfffffff0=20 krypton# ifconfig ed0 ed0: flags=3D8863 mtu 15= 00 inet 206.30.205.20 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast 206.30.205.31 ether 00:00:c0:a6:96:8d=20 -- Eric L. Hinson Unix Systems Administrator =20 Personal E-Mail: erich@ip.org AugLink E-Mail: erich@aug.com First City Free-Net AugLink Communications, Inc. "The deer may forget the snare, but the snare does not forget the deer." From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 00:43:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA16336 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 00:43:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.upstate.net ([206.153.4.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA16327 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 00:43:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clay-smith (ppp0.upstate.net [206.153.4.240]) by ns1.upstate.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA28220 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 03:51:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31D62E65.543F@upstate.net> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 03:36:06 -0400 From: "Clay R. Smith" Reply-To: claysmith@upstate.net Organization: Home X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Dual-booting FreeBSD and Windows95??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk More I read and learn about Unix and similar operating systems, more I consider installing it on my machine. Unfortunately, I can not afford even a low-end 486 like the one I am using now. Therefore, if installed, it will have to be on my current computer. I can not drop my current system for one I am not even sure that I will ever understand. I was told that FreeBSD is capable of working alongside up to five other operating systems. Is this true? My i486, 8mb IBM PS/1 computer is equiped with a 850mb, software overlay-dependent drive and a 85mb drive. Currently, I do not have a need for the second drive; therefore, I want to make it my FreeBSD drive and remain using Windows95 on the other? If possible, how can I do this? Also, are there utilities capable of reading MSDOS diskettes for FreeBSD? Thanks in advance, -Clay R. Smith (claysmith@upstate.net) P.S. If possible, could you reply as soon as possible, so that I will have answer before I leave for vacation on July 1st. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 01:03:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA19380 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 01:03:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ax433.mclink.it (ax433.mclink.it [192.106.166.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA19371 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 01:03:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tirm5.vol.it by ax433.mclink.it id aa24947; 30 Jun 96 10:03 CEST Message-ID: <31D63542.41C67EA6@mclink.it> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 10:05:22 +0200 From: Marco Masotti X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org CC: mc7953@mclink.it Subject: Re: Rlogin as root refused Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thanks for the answers, and I much appreciate who scrupled with emphasis on that sensible point. However is not insanity, so far :-), that solicited my question, just I wanted to know it a bit better and for my security awareness. But, I agree, such advices sometime are never enough... Despite my Lan is completely private, I would not set a .rhosts file like that, unless for seeing how it works. For those who care, with regard to my previous assertion of SunOS not needing the secure option in ttytab file, please disregard that. SunOS also requires it, but it's set by default for all pttys. Greetings to all. Marco. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 02:26:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA25948 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 02:26:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aries.interspace.com.au (steve@aries.interspace.com.au [203.22.192.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA25920 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 02:25:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from steve@localhost) by aries.interspace.com.au (8.7.5/8.6.9) id TAA00263; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 19:25:46 +1000 Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 19:25:46 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Steve Gibson To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Reboot Memory Faults Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've got a 2.1 Release machine which, when it tries to start up the system daemons at boot, core dumps all of them with a memory fault. Once it gets past these, I get a login prompt, but when I try to log in, login exits on signal 11. The machine has been running for about 7 months without a problem. It's a P133 with 64MB RAM and 256K burst cache. I've replaced memory and cache, and tried the hard disk in another(working) machine, and I get the same problems. I've also tried booting with a number of kernels, including the generic one, and I get the same problem. The only time the problem seems to go away is when I boot with the install floppy (so that I can use the fixit disk). Any ideas?? Thanks in advance. --- Interspace Australia Pty Ltd Steve Gibson - System Administrator From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 02:41:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA27068 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 02:41:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from infolink3.infolink.net (root@infolink3.infolink.net [202.68.28.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA27043 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 02:40:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fade (fading@csd1-27.infolink.net [202.68.1.59]) by infolink3.infolink.net (8.7.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA13715 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 09:49:44 GMT Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960630093941.0068c1e8@infolink.net> X-Sender: fade@infolink.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 17:39:41 +0800 To: freebsd-install@FreeBSD.ORG From: Benjamin Lim Subject: Install problem with 2.2 Snap Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there. I'm having some trouble installing the latest version of FreeBSD 2.2 Snap. I've downloaded most of the important files and placed it in the c:\freebsd directory: c:\freebsd\bin c:\freebsd\doct c:\freebsd\doc c:\freebsd\floppies c:\freebsd\games c:\freebsd\info c:\freebsd\manpages c:\freebsd\proflibs c:\freebsd\xf86312 Why i got FreeBSD 2.2 snap was because it is the only version of Freebsd that supports my Hard Disk controller which is an adaptec 7850. Here are the specs of my system from the manual: P54TS--CPU Pentium P54C/P55C with a Pentium 166 Chip Adaptec PCI Fast scsi-2 port Dual enhanced IDE ports 256K pipeline burst cache on board two 16550 Uart Ports ECP/EPP/SPP/Bi-direction parallel port Upto 2.88 MB FDC port Bios: Award Bios, p&p setup for adaptec scsi. enhanced ide and multi-OP. Both flash rom. Fast/wide/ultra SCSI-2 Interface: P54TS built in Adaptec AIC-7850 chip for PCI fast scsi-2 Date Transfer rate up to 10MB/Sec for 8 bit Fast SCSI-2 I have 32 MB of ram. The other stuff is not relevent so i dont' think i will print it. My hard disk is a Hawk 2LP Family: ST32430N/ND 2 GIGS Checking with PFDISK, this is the info it prints out: # Partition table on device: 0 geometry 261 255 63 (cyls heads sectors) # ID First(cyl) Last(cyl) Name # start, length (sectors) 1 6 0 197 DOSbi # 63, 3180807 (there is no partition 2 because i havn't created the freebsd partition yet) When I try and Install FREEBSD, at the start of the bin distrubution and the others I get this error: "Write failure on transfer! (wrote -1 bytes of 10240 bytes)" What is the problem? I am installing from another partition of my hard disk and as far as I can tell, freebsd install doesn't even read from it but only displays the error! _ _ Benjamin | (_)_ __ ___ a.k.a FaDe | | | '_ ` _ \ fade@infolink.net | | | | | | | |spin@iohk.com |_|_|_| |_| |_|http://www.infolink.net/~fade/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 03:54:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA02293 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 03:54:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.225.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA02287 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 03:54:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA16670; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 12:50:39 +0200 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA25757; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:03:00 +0200 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-Id: <199606301103.NAA25757@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: Xwindows & finger To: datcos@netvision.net.il (Igal Rubinstein) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:02:59 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31D6FAE5.1669@netvision.net.il> from Igal Rubinstein at "Jun 30, 96 03:08:37 pm" Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL16 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi ! > Recently, I moved to FreeBSD, and as usual, a newbie must ask something. > So my questions are: > My domain name is rilv.net.il, when I try: finger root, it works ok and > I see info about myself, however, when I try: finger root@rilv.net.il > I receive: > [rilv.net.il] > and thats all ... Then, I opened for myself additional account, called > igal, and I decided to send mail from root to igal. > I wrote: > mail igal > subject: Dont worry be happy (for example) > ggdagdg > ggdsagdsgsd > gdgsdagasgs > ghsdahhg > And it worked. But when I did > mail igal@rilv.net.il and sent the same message, it did not worked, > and I even received message about DELIVERY ERROR any ideas ? > My second question is very simple: (but not for me) > I use Xwindows and color_xterm, all options at color_xterm work > ok except one -bw or -w (it is the same). When I try to change width > nothing happens. So, if you can help me please reply. > My address is: datcos@netvision.net.il > Sound like you haven't set up your domain lookup correctly. What's in /etc/resolv.conf and in /etc/host.conf? --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 03:59:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA02539 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 03:59:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x1.boston.juno.com (x1.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.21]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA02533 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 03:59:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fadorno@juno.com) by x1.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id GAA15465; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 06:59:45 EDT To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 03:59:11 PST Subject: Getting back control of terminal Message-ID: <19960630.035911.10326.0.fadorno@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.00 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 4 From: fadorno@juno.com (Fred Adorno) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I installed XFree86 and configured the /etc/ttys so that the xterm would come up on boot. Now it appears that I can't move the mouse without causing the window to disappear, but what I really want to do is diable XFree from coming up on boot. Is there a way or do I have to reinstall everything again? Boot from floppy? From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 05:52:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA09830 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 05:52:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from su1.in.net (su1.in.net [199.0.62.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA09825 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 05:52:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by su1.in.net (5.65/1.2-eef) id AA15386; Sun, 30 Jun 96 07:51:07 -0400 Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 07:50:23 -400 (EDT) From: Jay Richmond Subject: Re: bootmanager instalation To: Yegor Sinelnikov Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199606291943.TAA07064@grn4.recyclenet.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > What should be the right procedure to install a bootmanager from > running freebsd system. I have added additional hard disk recently > with windows 95 and would like to be able to boot to it. There's a tutorial that you might find helpful. The latest copy is available at http://www.in.net/~jayrich/freebsd-howto.html. --Jay jayrich@in.net http://www.in.net/~jayrich From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 06:20:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA11431 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 06:20:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.NL.net (ns.NL.net [193.78.240.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA11419 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 06:20:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pop.KnoT.nl by ns.NL.net with SMTP id AA20559 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Sun, 30 Jun 1996 15:20:02 +0200 Received: from [193.78.85.6] by 193.78.85.4 with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1); Sun, 30 Jun 1996 15:19:20 +0200 X-Sender: noud@pop.knot.nl (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: noud@knot.nl (noud de brouwer) Subject: is there a sys.tar.gz?? Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 15:19:20 +0200 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hi..cause of serial speed i'm swapping out a NetBSD/mac68k system for a FreeBSD v2.1.0 system.. I just installed..no ppp driver in the kernel.. so i started looking around for sys.tar.gz to recompile to get ppp. I can't find that sys.tar.gz..is there a kernel with ppp enabled around? is there a sys.tar.gz around to ftp?? or do i need to get all the files?? Hope there's someone around to help..it's sunday and tomorrow i've got to go to work again..so i'd like to get it up&running today! ThanX in advance!!! ~n From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 06:20:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA11438 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 06:20:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.NL.net (ns.NL.net [193.78.240.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA11418 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 06:20:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pop.KnoT.nl by ns.NL.net with SMTP id AA20560 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Sun, 30 Jun 1996 15:20:03 +0200 Received: from [193.78.85.6] by 193.78.85.4 with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1); Sun, 30 Jun 1996 15:19:22 +0200 X-Sender: noud@pop.knot.nl (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: noud@knot.nl (noud de brouwer) Subject: is there a sys.tar.gz?? anyway.. Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 15:19:22 +0200 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk now i hit the 'get kernel-developer-set'-key.. hum, and it's getting 52Mb again but with an extra 18Mb kernel sources hum, ~n From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 08:31:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA20921 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 08:31:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jbrann.dialup.access.net (jbrann.dialup.access.net [166.84.193.118]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA20915 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 08:31:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jbrann@localhost) by jbrann.dialup.access.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA04972; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 11:35:21 -0400 Message-Id: <199606301535.LAA04972@jbrann.dialup.access.net> Subject: Re: is there a sys.tar.gz?? To: noud@knot.nl (noud de brouwer) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 11:35:21 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org (freeq) In-Reply-To: from noud de brouwer at "Jun 30, 96 03:19:20 pm" From: John Brann Reply-To: John Brann Organisation: Not while I'm at home X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL13 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk noud de brouwer wrote... > hi..cause of serial speed i'm swapping out a NetBSD/mac68k system for a > FreeBSD v2.1.0 system.. > I just installed..no ppp driver in the kernel.. Correct, the GENERIC kernel doesn't have support for pppd. However, there is a user-mode ppp program (called 'ppp') which is supported by the gerenic kernel. Try 'man ppp' - that will get you started. The user-mode ppp is a neat program, it includes all of the dial-up facilities and supports dial-on-demand. > so i started looking around for sys.tar.gz to recompile to get ppp. You mean a kernel re-build, I take it. For this you need the 'ssys.aa - an' files. These are cat - ed together to make ssys.tgz by the installer. > > I can't find that sys.tar.gz..is there a kernel with ppp enabled around? > is there a sys.tar.gz around to ftp?? or do i need to get all the files?? > > Hope there's someone around to help..it's sunday and tomorrow i've got to > go to work again..so i'd like to get it up&running today! Relax, help is on the way! > > ThanX in advance!!! > ~n > > I'd recommend the user-mode program, at least for your first cut at this. John -- Beavis and Butt-Head; Vladimir and Estragon for the '90s. finger jbrann@panix.com for pgp public key From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 08:32:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA20988 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 08:32:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jbrann.dialup.access.net (jbrann.dialup.access.net [166.84.193.118]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA20983 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 08:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jbrann@localhost) by jbrann.dialup.access.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA04981; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 11:38:12 -0400 Message-Id: <199606301538.LAA04981@jbrann.dialup.access.net> Subject: Re: Getting back control of terminal To: fadorno@juno.com (Fred Adorno) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 11:38:11 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org (freeq) In-Reply-To: <19960630.035911.10326.0.fadorno@juno.com> from Fred Adorno at "Jun 30, 96 03:59:11 am" From: John Brann Reply-To: John Brann Organisation: Not while I'm at home X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL13 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Fred Adorno wrote... > I installed XFree86 and configured the /etc/ttys so that the xterm would > come up on boot. Now it appears that I can't move the mouse without > causing the window to disappear, but what I really want to do is diable > XFree from coming up on boot. Is there a way or do I have to reinstall > everything again? Boot from floppy? > No problem :-). Boot in single-user mode. When you get the boot: prompt, type '-s' (without the quotes, of course) and your system will come up in single-user mode and you can re-edit 'rc.local' (or wherever you put the command. Then exit your shell and the system completes its boot. John -- Beavis and Butt-Head; Vladimir and Estragon for the '90s. finger jbrann@panix.com for pgp public key From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 08:39:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA21354 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 08:39:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prop (root@prop.caribnet.net [205.214.195.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA21346 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 08:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 11:38:54 -0400 (AST) From: Sean Batson X-Sender: valtech@PPP25.sunbeach.net To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Shutdown MSGS Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk what is the meaning of those numbers you see when shutting down FreeBSD. Sean. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 08:45:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA22241 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 08:45:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home.lenzi ([200.247.23.199]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA22227 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 08:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lenzi@localhost) by home.lenzi (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA01666; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 12:35:55 GMT Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 12:35:52 +0000 () From: "Lenzi, Sergio" X-Sender: lenzi@home To: Marco Masotti cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, mc7953@mclink.it Subject: Re: rlogin as root refused In-Reply-To: <31D53AD3.41C67EA6@mclink.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello Marco. For you rlogin as root, you need to edit the /etc/ttys file to allow logins from network. So, change the entries for ttypx form network to network off secure. Warning. Your secure system is now vulnerable. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 09:04:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA23529 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 09:04:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from k2.pcz.czest.pl (k2.pcz.czest.pl [193.59.120.67]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA23503 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 09:04:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from k2 (localhost) by k2.pcz.czest.pl with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA028490695; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 18:04:55 +0200 Message-Id: <31D6A5A6.DD6@mim.pcz.czest.pl> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 18:04:54 +0200 From: Pawel Wezgowiec Organization: Technical University of Czestochowa X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (X11; I; HP-UX B.10.01 9000/819) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your mail References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gifka Sovereign wrote: > > On Sat, 29 Jun 1996, Pawel Wezgowiec wrote: > > unsubscribe freebsd-questions Pawel Wezgowiec > > end > > Send your request to majordomo@freebsd.org with the above info. Oops! I did it like a newbie. Sorry for the mess :( And I can't even blame it on software ;-) ... -- ======================================================================= Pawel Wezgowiec | Technical University of Czestochowa | Institute of Mathematics Network Administrator | and Computer Science ======================================================================= http://www.matinf.pcz.czest.pl/~pwezgowi ======================================================================= From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 09:36:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA26557 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 09:36:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA26547 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 09:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nickhome.com (nickliu@netcom6.netcom.com [192.100.81.114]) by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA12468 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 09:35:41 -0700 Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 09:35:41 -0700 Message-Id: <199606301635.JAA12468@dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: nickliu@netcom.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: Nick Liu Subject: Installing ELM Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I installed ELM yesterday and when I tried to run it, it says "attempt to lock mail..." then after 6 attempts it exited out with an error. I bet someone had the same experience and knew the fix. Help!!! From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 10:12:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA28753 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 10:12:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA28747 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 10:12:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (kelly@emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA08323; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 17:12:17 GMT Message-Id: <199606301712.RAA08323@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA042144780; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 11:13:00 -0600 Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 11:13:00 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: valtech@caribnet.net Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: (message from Sean Batson on Sun, 30 Jun 1996 11:38:54 -0400 (AST)) Subject: Re: Shutdown MSGS Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Sean" == Sean Batson writes: Sean> what is the meaning of those numbers you see when shutting Sean> down FreeBSD. It's the number of dirty disk buffers yet to be flushed. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 10:31:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA29430 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 10:31:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA29425 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 10:31:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id aj17252; 30 Jun 96 16:01 GMT Received: from am221.du.pipex.com ([193.130.252.221]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa25898; 30 Jun 96 16:43 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA01296; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 15:37:20 GMT Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 15:37:20 GMT Message-Id: <199606301537.PAA01296@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: noud@knot.nl CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (noud@knot.nl) Subject: Re: is there a sys.tar.gz?? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > hi..cause of serial speed i'm swapping out a NetBSD/mac68k system for a > FreeBSD v2.1.0 system.. Welcome aboard! > I just installed..no ppp driver in the kernel.. The kernel that's installed does support PPP, but it uses the tun device; this is used for "user-mode" PPP, /usr/sbin/ppp, which is easier to set up and debug and is the recommended PPP program for dialling out. The ppp device is required by "kernel-mode" PPP, /usr/sbin/pppd, which is the recommended PPP program if you want people to be able to dial in to your machine. It's not enabled by default, as the other version is more useful for what most people want and is more suited to what's required during the installation. > so i started looking around for sys.tar.gz to recompile to get ppp. > > I can't find that sys.tar.gz..is there a kernel with ppp enabled around? > is there a sys.tar.gz around to ftp?? or do i need to get all the files?? Grab the ssys.* files from dists/src - they're a split tarball of the kernel source (just do 'cat ssys.*' to reassemble the tarball). -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 10:32:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA29587 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 10:32:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freenet.hamilton.on.ca (main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA29580 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 10:32:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.66]) by freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA25408; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:32:40 -0400 Received: (ac199@localhost) by james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA17540; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:34:13 -0400 Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:34:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek To: Darrell Taylor cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ATI Mach64 cards In-Reply-To: <199606292153.RAA13510@mail.biddeford.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 29 Jun 1996, Darrell Taylor wrote: > Though the compatibility list for FreeBSD includes ATI Mach64 cards, the FAQ > says that to make these cards work, a whole stack of workarounds and > rebuilds will be necessary. (Text below). Does this state of affairs still > exist? Has the bug been squashed? Having barely survived lengthy attempts I know the newer stuff from -current has probing of com port 3 disabled... I imagine that 2.1.5 will also have probing of that port disabled by default. Really, the only bug in 2.1-RELEASE is that com port 3 will be probed, even if you've only enabled probing of com port 1. As the FAQ says, the solution is to disable all four of them whenever you boot with the boot disk, and the first time that you boot after installing. Later, if you ever feel like recompiling your kernel, you just edit one of the source files and do the `make world' thing... It's really not so much of a challenge as you expect, I think. > " The problem is that the ATI Mach 64 uses address 2e8, and the fourth > serial port does too. Due to a bug (feature?) in the sio.c driver it will Hmm.. 3rd/4th...whatever... I thought it was the third, but I'm not going to go change every reference to `com port 3' in my message to `com port 4', now... Anyways, you can see this problem by using DOS, too. Start your favourite com program, and tell it that the modem is on com port 3 or 4 (whichever). Then try to dial someone. In my test, the screen switched to some really nifty font which looked ugly and was somewhat slow. > fixed, you can use this workaround: 1. Enter -c at the bootprompt. [ > the kernel goes into configuration mode] 2. Disable sio0, sio1, sio2 and > sio3 (all of them). This way the sio driver doesn't get activated -> no This is very easy. While your at it, you can also disable probing of anything else you don't have (ie. network cards, second hdds, etc) to make the booting process a little faster. Type `view' once your in configuration mode for a sexy little menu-deal. > ports. You'll have to build a new kernel with the following > modification: in /usr/src/sys/i386/isa/sio.c find the one occurrence of > the string 0x2e8 and remove that string and the preceding comma (keep > the trailing comma). I've never done this, but it really does sound quite easy! :) You have to have the sources installed, of course... > Now follow the normal procedure of building a new > kernel. The procedure for doing this is well-described in the FreeBSD handbook available in /usr/share/doc/* and at www.freebsd.org. This is something you'd want to do even if it wasn't for the Mach 64 - sio4 conflict. > 7.11. Now everything runs great, except for X Window: my screen goed > black or X Window runs but with all kinds of problems. Some newer ATI > Mach 64 video cards (notably ATI Mach Xpression) do not run with the > current version of XFree86. You can get a beta-version of a new X-server > that works better, by looking at the XFree86 site > and following the links to the new beta > release. Get the following files:..." This problem is not related to FreeBSD. You chopped off which files the FAQ reccomends getting, but I only remember getting one - the Beta Mach64 X server from ftp.xfree86.org. www.xfree86.org has more information available on this that you might be interested in reading. It says specifically which chips will only work with the beta Mach64 server (`CT' and `VT' ones, I think). -- Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! tIM...HOEk From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 10:36:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA00118 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 10:36:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA29997 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 10:36:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id KAA23841 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 10:36:46 -0700 Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id af07453; 30 Jun 96 16:33 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa16035; 30 Jun 96 16:11 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA00878; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 14:08:55 GMT Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 14:08:55 GMT Message-Id: <199606301408.OAA00878@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: claysmith@upstate.net CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <31D62E65.543F@upstate.net> (claysmith@upstate.net) Subject: Re: Dual-booting FreeBSD and Windows95??? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > More I read and learn about Unix and similar operating systems, more I > consider installing it on my machine. Unfortunately, I can not afford > even a low-end 486 like the one I am using now. Therefore, if > installed, it will have to be on my current computer. I can not drop my > current system for one I am not even sure that I will ever understand. FreeBSD will actually run on a 386, which you may be able to find second-hand - the very minimum spec is a 386SX16 with 4MB of RAM. > I was told that FreeBSD is capable of working alongside up to five other > operating systems. Is this true? My i486, 8mb IBM PS/1 computer is > equiped with a 850mb, software overlay-dependent drive and a 85mb drive. > Currently, I do not have a need for the second drive; therefore, I want > to make it my FreeBSD drive and remain using Windows95 on the other? Yes, this is possible; the FreeBSD installation routine will offer you the chance to install a boot manager, which will allow you to choose which one to boot when the system starts up. However, 85MB is rather tight and you will probably not be able to get much more than a minimal FreeBSD installation onto it. Although the minimal installation contains lots of useful tools - it's just not quite as flashy as Win95 ;-) > If possible, how can I do this? Also, are there utilities capable of > reading MSDOS diskettes for FreeBSD? Yes, the mtools package contains a number of utilities for working with DOS disks. (You'll get an option to add this and other packages during the installation). > P.S. If possible, could you reply as soon as possible, so that I will > have answer before I leave for vacation on July 1st. Hope this gets there in time... -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 10:43:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA00504 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 10:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.NL.net (ns.NL.net [193.78.240.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA00490 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 10:43:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pop.KnoT.nl by ns.NL.net with SMTP id AA00630 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Sun, 30 Jun 1996 19:42:39 +0200 Received: from [193.78.85.6] by 193.78.85.4 with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1); Sun, 30 Jun 1996 19:41:56 +0200 X-Sender: noud@pop.knot.nl Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: noud@knot.nl (noud de brouwer) Subject: Re: is there a sys.tar.gz?? Cc: "Hr.Ladavac" , John Brann , James Raynard Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 19:41:56 +0200 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Wow..thanx for the fast reply!! At the moment my NetBSD/mac68k gateway is very instable (the mini din-8 serial port..being short of one pin), given that i found work the first time since 2 years, i need a trustfull gateway as i'm not in the house. i'd like to be up&running fast.. ..hum..i went on refetching kernel-developer i.s.o. user. now that's about 70Mb given i've got a 100Mb disk with 16Mb swap. As i understand you all, there's a ppp driver besides and in the kernel. the one besides is for dialing into the net, the one inside is for other ppp services, f.i. people dialing in. I'd like to set it up as a gateway; ppp to the net and ether inside. Given my disk having 14Mb left, is that anough to compile the kernel?? How long will it take to compile the kernel given it's a 486sx, no co-processor as far as i see, 8Mb?? If 14Mb free space is to less, can i setup an 40Mb disk as swap and the 100Mb as / ?? Do i need to do things for such a setup? ThanX, ~n From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 10:52:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA01687 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 10:52:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA01672 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 10:52:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA00329; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 10:52:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606301752.KAA00329@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Tim Vanderhoek cc: Darrell Taylor , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ATI Mach64 cards In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:34:13 EDT." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@root.com Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 10:52:20 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >On Sat, 29 Jun 1996, Darrell Taylor wrote: > >> Though the compatibility list for FreeBSD includes ATI Mach64 cards, the FAQ >> says that to make these cards work, a whole stack of workarounds and >> rebuilds will be necessary. (Text below). Does this state of affairs still >> exist? Has the bug been squashed? Having barely survived lengthy attempts > >I know the newer stuff from -current has probing of com port 3 >disabled... I imagine that 2.1.5 will also have probing of that port >disabled by default. Really, the only bug in 2.1-RELEASE is that com Actually, 2.1.5 shouldn't have this problem: (sio.c) ---------------------------- revision 1.99.4.2 date: 1996/01/29 08:17:15; author: bde; state: Exp; lines: +18 -35 Brought in some critical changes from main branch: part of rev.1.115: Fix the tests for being a console by reverting to the ones that were used before the the RB_SERIAL changes... all of rev.1.123: Removed builtin list of port addresses. The address for sio3 conflicted with S3 graphics cards... --- Note the last part about rev 1.123. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 10:59:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA02030 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 10:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hod.tera.com (hod.tera.com [206.215.142.67]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA02024 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 10:59:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from athena.tera.com (athena.tera.com [206.215.142.62]) by hod.tera.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA24123; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 10:57:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Kline Received: (from kline@localhost) by athena.tera.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA06914; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 10:57:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606301757.KAA06914@athena.tera.com> Subject: Re: Installing ELM To: nickliu@netcom.com (Nick Liu) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 10:57:55 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606301635.JAA12468@dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com> from Nick Liu at "Jun 30, 96 09:35:41 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Nick Liu: > I installed ELM yesterday and when I tried to run it, it says "attempt to > lock mail..." then after 6 attempts it exited out with an error. > > I bet someone had the same experience and knew the fix. Help!!! > You are using the incorrect locking mechanism. Run through the `Configure' script again. The default is wrong for FreeBSD. gary kline > From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 11:16:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA03571 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 11:16:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jbrann.dialup.access.net (jbrann.dialup.access.net [166.84.193.118]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA03565 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 11:16:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jbrann@localhost) by jbrann.dialup.access.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA04996; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 11:47:11 -0400 Message-Id: <199606301547.LAA04996@jbrann.dialup.access.net> Subject: Re: Dual-booting FreeBSD and Windows95??? To: claysmith@upstate.net Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 11:47:11 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org (freeq) In-Reply-To: <31D62E65.543F@upstate.net> from "Clay R. Smith" at "Jun 30, 96 03:36:06 am" From: John Brann Reply-To: John Brann Organisation: Not while I'm at home X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL13 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Clay R. Smith wrote... [...] > > I was told that FreeBSD is capable of working alongside up to five other > operating systems. Is this true? My i486, 8mb IBM PS/1 computer is > equiped with a 850mb, software overlay-dependent drive and a 85mb drive. > Currently, I do not have a need for the second drive; therefore, I want > to make it my FreeBSD drive and remain using Windows95 on the other? Yes, though 85Mb is very tight. I once installed FreeBSD 2.1, with X in 100Mb (including 24Mb of swap), but that was a very tight squeeze. > > If possible, how can I do this? Also, are there utilities capable of > reading MSDOS diskettes for FreeBSD? The installation process will guide you through the details. FreeBSD is capable of reading / writing FAT disks, so sharing files with Win95 is normally easy. I'm not familiar with your system, nor with 'software overlay-dependent drives', so you may have some problems there. > > Thanks in advance, > -Clay R. Smith (claysmith@upstate.net) > > > P.S. If possible, could you reply as soon as possible, so that I will > have answer before I leave for vacation on July 1st. > Have a good time :-) John -- Beavis and Butt-Head; Vladimir and Estragon for the '90s. finger jbrann@panix.com for pgp public key From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 11:27:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA04251 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 11:27:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jbrann.dialup.access.net (jbrann.dialup.access.net [166.84.193.118]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA04242 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 11:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jbrann@localhost) by jbrann.dialup.access.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA08340; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 14:33:26 -0400 Message-Id: <199606301833.OAA08340@jbrann.dialup.access.net> Subject: Re: x,bsd To: ABaro3000@aol.com Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 14:33:26 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org (freeq) In-Reply-To: <960630113757_228093512@emout08.mail.aol.com> from "ABaro3000@aol.com" at "Jun 30, 96 11:37:59 am" From: John Brann Reply-To: John Brann Organisation: Not while I'm at home X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL13 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, again, Andreas, ABaro3000@aol.com wrote... > John, > > from the bsd-cd 2.1 i have installed and configured the X-win. Now at the > unix shell i want > to start it, but what must i type in ? the command is 'startx'. It's in '/usr/X11R6/bin'. It's possible that the directory is not in your PATH, which is why you can't find the command. Did you succeed in using 'xf86config'? - the worst part of getting X to work is creating the configuration... Good Luck! > > Andreas > > ps: today is a greatfootball match should we bet who will win ? Speaking as an Englishman... I believe Germany will win at a walk. I also believe that the wrong teams are in the final... :-( > John -- Beavis and Butt-Head; Vladimir and Estragon for the '90s. finger jbrann@panix.com for pgp public key From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 11:34:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA04807 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 11:34:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jbrann.dialup.access.net (jbrann.dialup.access.net [166.84.193.118]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA04796 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 11:34:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jbrann@localhost) by jbrann.dialup.access.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA08820; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 14:39:09 -0400 Message-Id: <199606301839.OAA08820@jbrann.dialup.access.net> Subject: Re: Shutdown MSGS To: valtech@caribnet.net (Sean Batson) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 14:39:08 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org (freeq) In-Reply-To: from Sean Batson at "Jun 30, 96 11:38:54 am" From: John Brann Reply-To: John Brann Organisation: Not while I'm at home X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL13 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sean Batson wrote... > what is the meaning of those numbers you see when > shutting down FreeBSD. > > Sean. > I imagine you mean the descending sequence which is about the last thing you see before the reboot. (Sorry, I can't remember what it says, this OS is so stable I hardly ever have to do it :-). What's happening is that the disk write cache (disk blocks which have been changed, but are held in memory for performance reasons) is being written onto the hard disk, before marking the disk as clean. The numbers are the blocks remaining to be written. John -- Beavis and Butt-Head; Vladimir and Estragon for the '90s. finger jbrann@panix.com for pgp public key From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 11:44:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA05647 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 11:44:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from metronet.com (pgilley@fohnix.metronet.com [192.245.137.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA05642 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 11:44:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by metronet.com with SMTP id AA04803 (5.67a/IDA1.5hp for ); Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:45:07 -0500 Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:45:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Phil Gilley To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: 2.1-960627-SNAP custom distribution Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Using the 2.1-960627-SNAP boot floppy, selecting Custom under the Choose Distribution menu returns me to the previous screen. How does one go about selecting a custom distribution? Phil Gilley pgilley@metronet.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 11:44:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA05673 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 11:44:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from central.picker.com (central.picker.com [144.54.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA05664 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 11:44:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by central.picker.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0uaRRb-0004rnC; Sun, 30 Jun 96 14:42 EDT Received: from elmer.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00451; Sun, 30 Jun 96 14:41:27 EDT Received: by elmer.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA19788; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 14:43:00 -0400 From: rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper) Message-Id: <199606301843.OAA19788@elmer.picker.com> Subject: Re: Installing ELM To: kline@tera.com (Gary Kline) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 14:42:59 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606301757.KAA06914@athena.tera.com> from "Gary Kline" at Jun 30, 96 10:57:55 am Reply-To: rhh@ct.picker.com Organization: Picker International, CT Division X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> I installed ELM yesterday and when I tried to run it, it says "attempt to >> lock mail..." then after 6 attempts it exited out with an error. >> >> I bet someone had the same experience and knew the fix. Help!!! Yep. Here's what I'm using (from config.h): /*#define USE_FLOCK_LOCKING*/ /**/ #define USE_DOTLOCK_LOCKING /**/ #define USE_FCNTL_LOCKING /**/ #define LOCK_DIR "/var/spool/uucp" /**/ then, pick a group that all your mail users will be in (e.g. staff) and then (as root): cd /var chgrp staff mail chmod 2777 mail Randall Hopper rhh@ct.picker.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 12:36:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA09566 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 12:36:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.crl.com (mail.crl.com [165.113.1.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA09460 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 12:35:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA08744 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 30 Jun 1996 12:35:24 -0700 Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id aq29399; 30 Jun 96 18:25 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa15968; 30 Jun 96 16:11 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA00892; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 14:24:47 GMT Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 14:24:47 GMT Message-Id: <199606301424.OAA00892@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: mnewton@io.org Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606292327.TAA01003@io.org> (mnewton@io.org) Subject: Re: windows NT and Freebsd on same pc Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On a new pc I need NT and freebsd on the same drive. NT to test out commerce > server stuff etc and freebsd as a fast switch backup to our server. > on a 1.6gb drive I would assume that I should put nt first (1gb) and freebsd > in the last 600Mbyte. I guess I can run fdisk from nt to switcth active > partitions. > Any better ideas ?????? First of all, the root FreeBSD partition must be in the first 1024 cylinders (528? MB for most hard disks). This is a PC limitation, not a FreeBSD one. However, the rest of the FreeBSD system can be anywhere on the disk. My suggestion would be, using your figures:- 0-20MB FreeBSD slice with root partition 20-1020MB WinNT slice 1020-1600MB FreeBSD slice with other partitions (usr, var, ...). (BTW a "slice" is what most PC people call a "partition" - a FreeBSD "partition" is a filesystem within a FreeBSD "slice") Also, if you accept the option to install a boot manager during the installation, this will allow you to select the OS to run when the system boots without having to mess around with fdisk. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 12:42:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA10124 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 12:42:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jbrann.dialup.access.net (jbrann.dialup.access.net [166.84.193.118]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA10115 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 12:42:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jbrann@localhost) by jbrann.dialup.access.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA09326; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 15:47:08 -0400 Message-Id: <199606301947.PAA09326@jbrann.dialup.access.net> Subject: Re: windows NT and Freebsd on same pc To: mnewton@io.org (Malcolm Newton) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 15:47:08 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org (freeq) In-Reply-To: <199606292327.TAA01003@io.org> from Malcolm Newton at "Jun 29, 96 07:27:47 pm" From: John Brann Reply-To: John Brann Organisation: Not while I'm at home X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL13 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Malcolm Newton wrote... > On a new pc I need NT and freebsd on the same drive. NT to test out commerce > server stuff etc and freebsd as a fast switch backup to our server. > on a 1.6gb drive I would assume that I should put nt first (1gb) and freebsd > in the last 600Mbyte. I guess I can run fdisk from nt to switcth active > partitions. > Any better ideas ?????? > > ta muchly > Malcolm Newton President > mnewton@io.org http://www.io.org/~mnewton > VisiSoft Corp 2155 Dunwin Dr unit 6, Mississauga,Ont. Can L5L 4M1 > (905) 607 6263 (905) 607 6122 fax > Install the Boot manager which comes with FreeBSD. It works fine with NT. You'll be prompted during installation to decide whether you want it or not. Remember that the FreeBSD kernel has to be below cylinder 1024 when partitioning... John -- Beavis and Butt-Head; Vladimir and Estragon for the '90s. finger jbrann@panix.com for pgp public key From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 12:51:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA10954 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 12:51:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA10949 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 12:51:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from andrsn@localhost) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) id MAA13215; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 12:32:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 12:32:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Kernel Panic Porting tcl74 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I typed "make" in the tcl74 directory with the Makefile (not make install) (using the link farm to the cdrom for ports created with lndir) and the kernel panicked: Script started on Sun Jun 30 12:11:17 1996 andrsn: {1} gdb -k kernel.0 vmcore.0 [snip] GDB 4.13 (i386-unknown-freebsd), Copyright 1994 Free Software Foundation, Inc...(no debugging symbols found)... IdlePTD 1d6000 current pcb at 1aeb3c panic: unwire: page not in pmap #0 0xf017eceb in boot () (kgdb) bt #0 0xf017eceb in boot () #1 0xf0117335 in panic () #2 0xf016f052 in vm_fault_unwire () #3 0xf01714d9 in vm_map_pageable () #4 0xf016fd88 in swapout () #5 0xf016fcbd in swapout_threads () #6 0xf01781f4 in vm_daemon () #7 0xf010a299 in main () (kgdb) quit andrsn: {2} exit Script done on Sun Jun 30 12:11:54 1996 The system is FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE as of April 28. I'm wondering what went wrong here--I'm assuming the same thing would have happened if I'd done "make install" instead of just "make." I don't know enough about kgdb to figure out what happened and the kernel wasn't compiled with the -g option. Annelise From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 13:13:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA12892 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:13:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tombstone.sunrem.com (tombstone.sunrem.com [206.81.134.54]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA12883 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:12:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brandon@localhost) by tombstone.sunrem.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA16508; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 14:12:47 -0600 Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 14:12:47 -0600 (MDT) From: Brandon Gillespie To: "Clay R. Smith" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dual-booting FreeBSD and Windows95??? In-Reply-To: <31D62E65.543F@upstate.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 30 Jun 1996, Clay R. Smith wrote: > My i486, 8mb IBM PS/1 computer is equiped with a 850mb, software > overlay-dependent drive and a 85mb drive. If the IBM PS/1 is a microchannel board you may have some serious problems getting FreeBSD working (last I checked Microchannel is not supported, has this changed?). I would also be concerned about your drive, what is software overlay-dependent? -Brandon Gillespie From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 13:14:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA12965 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from huey.cadvision.com (huey.cadvision.com [204.50.1.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA12879 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:12:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agta198.cadvision.com (agta198.cadvision.com [207.34.96.198]) by huey.cadvision.com (8.7.5/8.7.5/DCX/TRI) with SMTP id OAA40948 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 14:17:59 -0600 Message-ID: <31D64643.3BEF@plainsp.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 02:17:55 -0700 From: SiLiCON X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Trouble shooting. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to install freeBSD 2.1.0 on my computer, I have dos 6.22 and have partitioned the drive into two sections, I can get the freeBSD booted and it starts to install but when installing the bin.?? files (from my ms-dos partition) it gives me the message "Write Failure on transfer! (wrote -1 bytes of 10240 bytes)" If you could please reply at you're earliest convienience it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much. James. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 13:20:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA13540 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:20:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jbrann.dialup.access.net (jbrann.dialup.access.net [166.84.193.118]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA13525 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:20:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jbrann@localhost) by jbrann.dialup.access.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA09339; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 15:53:21 -0400 Message-Id: <199606301953.PAA09339@jbrann.dialup.access.net> Subject: Re: Slow booting To: amengual@sadeya.cesca.es (Carlos Amengual) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 15:53:21 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org (freeq) In-Reply-To: <31D57FE3.4F7C@sadeya.cesca.es> from Carlos Amengual at "Jun 29, 96 07:11:31 pm" From: John Brann Reply-To: John Brann Organisation: Not while I'm at home X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL13 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Carlos Amengual wrote... > Jordyn A. Buchanan wrote: > > > > Hello: > > > > One of our machines is stalling as it boots. Not stalling, really but > > pausing for about five minutes before moving on. Here's what I see: > > [... deleted...] I think you'll find that this is due to name resolution. If these machines are configured to use DNS before '/etc/hosts', or if they are trying to resolve a name not in '/etc/hosts' when the reverse is true, and you do not have a full-time Internet connection, the name resolution will fail, and your boot process will stall until the resolver times out. I encountered this problem when I first configured a caching-only nameserver on my machine. Going through '/etc/sysconfig' and replacing all the names in route and ifconfig lines with IP addresses solved it for me. oJohn -- Beavis and Butt-Head; Vladimir and Estragon for the '90s. finger jbrann@panix.com for pgp public key From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 13:51:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA16204 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:51:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA16061 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:49:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id VAA10393; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 21:42:02 +0100 (BST) To: Brandon Gillespie cc: "Clay R. Smith" , questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Dual-booting FreeBSD and Windows95??? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 30 Jun 1996 14:12:47 MDT." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <10384.836167321.1@palmer.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 21:42:02 +0100 Message-ID: <10391.836167322@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Brandon Gillespie wrote in message ID : > If the IBM PS/1 is a microchannel board you may have some serious > problems getting FreeBSD working (last I checked Microchannel is not > supported, has this changed?). It hasn't changed, no. I seem to remember several people offering to do MCA support over the last 2 odd years, but nothing has ever come of it. I would be very surpised if anything was done about MCA support in the next year or so, as it isn't very common and is becoming less so. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 14:40:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA19207 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 14:40:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ginger.vnet.net (root@ginger.vnet.net [166.82.1.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA19200 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 14:40:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vnet.net (elvis.vnet.net [166.82.1.5]) by ginger.vnet.net (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA12001 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:49:07 -0400 Received: from khan@vnet.net (artist.vnet.net) by vnet.net with SMTP id AA01027 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for questions@FreeBSD.org); Sun, 30 Jun 1996 17:40:03 -0400 From: khan Message-Id: X-Mailer: XFMail 0.3 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: khan@vnet.net Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 17:33:15 EDT To: questions@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ---------------------------------- E-Mail: khan@vnet.net Date: 06/30/96 Time: 17:33:15 This message was sent by Edwin D. Burley ---------------------------------- I have a Hercules dynamite pro card with 2meg's on the board...need help with XF 86Config to get the max colors out of the card..also I am running fvwm stuff...it works b ut it could be better... ...if someone has this card and running well please email khan@vnet.net From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 14:52:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA20002 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 14:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from metronet.com (pgilley@fohnix.metronet.com [192.245.137.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA19996 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 14:52:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by metronet.com with SMTP id AA17894 (5.67a/IDA1.5hp for ); Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:53:24 -0500 Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:53:24 -0500 (CDT) From: Phil Gilley To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2.1-960627-SNAP custom distribution Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 30 Jun 1996, Phil Gilley wrote: > Using the 2.1-960627-SNAP boot floppy, selecting Custom under the > Choose Distribution menu returns me to the previous screen. How > does one go about selecting a custom distribution? To answer my own question, I figured out you have to use the space bar to make some selections instead of using the enter key. Doh! Phil Gilley pgilley@metronet.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 16:16:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA24634 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:16:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server1.netpath.net (server1.netpath.net [205.139.153.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA24629 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:16:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from deasey@localhost) by server1.netpath.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) id TAA14962; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 19:16:24 -0400 Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 19:16:24 -0400 Message-Id: <199606302316.TAA14962@server1.netpath.net> To: questions@freebsd.org X-URL: mailto:questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2-4-2 X-Personal_name: Geoffrey Deasey From: deasey@netpath.net Subject: june snapshot not available to cdrom subscribers Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk why ? I thought the whole reason to subscribe was to avoid this very thing ? From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 16:17:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA24696 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:17:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pom-vms2.pomona.edu (pom-vms2.pomona.edu [134.173.64.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA24691 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:17:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from POMONA.EDU by POMONA.EDU (PMDF V5.0-7 #12356) id <01I6IXVR2J9C8WWJPI@POMONA.EDU>; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:16:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:16:41 -0800 (PST) From: JOHN Subject: Re: Shutdown MSGS To: jbrann@panix.com Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <01I6IXVR2N0Y8WWJPI@POMONA.EDU> X-VMS-To: IN%"jbrann@panix.com" X-VMS-Cc: IN%"questions@FreeBSD.org" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is this sequence of numbers (the number of blocks that still need to be flushed) - is this sequence SUPPOSED to countdown - for instance - my machine says something like syncing disks... 6 6 6 6 6 then it shuts down. John From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 16:26:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA25263 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:26:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seine.cs.UMD.EDU (seine.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.59]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA25256; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:26:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by seine.cs.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA09475; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 19:26:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199606302326.TAA09475@seine.cs.UMD.EDU> To: "Gary Palmer" cc: Brandon Gillespie , "Clay R. Smith" , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dual-booting FreeBSD and Windows95??? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 30 Jun 1996 21:42:02 BST." <10391.836167322@palmer.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 19:26:30 -0400 From: Rohit Dube Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 30 Jun 1996 21:42:02 +0100 gpalmer@freebsd.org writes: =>Brandon Gillespie wrote in message ID =>: =>> If the IBM PS/1 is a microchannel board you may have some serious =>> problems getting FreeBSD working (last I checked Microchannel is not =>> supported, has this changed?). => =>It hasn't changed, no. I seem to remember several people offering to do =>MCA support over the last 2 odd years, but nothing has ever come of =>it. I would be very surpised if anything was done about MCA support =>in the next year or so, as it isn't very common and is becoming less so. => =>Gary I was asking similar questions about FreeBSD on MCA machines a couple of months ago. My take on the situation : a couple of guys in Australia and Europe set out to get FreeBSD to run on MCA machines. Although they got some stuff working, the port was never stabalized and released. If you have a MCA machine and want to run UNIX, check out the Linux MCA page : http://www.undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca/~cpbeaure/mca-linux.html Neverthless, the corollary from Gary's observation being, MCA is not worth it. --rohit. (rohit@cs.umd.edu) From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 16:44:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA26919 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:44:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sili.adn.edu.ph (info@sili.adn.edu.ph [165.220.57.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA26913 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:44:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from info@localhost) by sili.adn.edu.ph (8.6.11/8.6.9) id IAA10810; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 08:11:58 +1000 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 08:11:57 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Information Help Desk To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: configuring gated Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk HI !!! I am currently trying to figure out what to do with gated on one fbsd box. This box will act as an internal router and will be the second one next to our external router. Right now what I know of is that there is an entry to route 165.220.57.0 to us from our external router. Now, we just acquired a new network address 165.220.58.0 and am clueless on how packets would be routed to this new network address. The fbsd box router will be the gateway to this new network. What should I do? I know it's possible not to modify our external network because I've read that I could use gated to tell our external router about a new route to this new network address. Problem is how to go about this one. Better yet, how do some new network let the INTERNET know of this newly existing network address. What are the steps? Gated is ready for running in the fbsd box. I really need some help on this one. Thank you. -- jf From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 16:54:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA27647 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:54:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA27642 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:54:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id QAA23248; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:53:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bubba.whistle.com(207.76.205.7) by whistle.com via smap (V1.3) id sma023244; Sun Jun 30 16:53:22 1996 Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA27875; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:53:22 -0700 From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199606302353.QAA27875@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: strtouq() To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:53:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is this function strtouq() completely broken or am I doing something dumb ? Here's a test program... #include #include #include #include #include int main(int ac, char *av[]) { u_quad_t num; if (ac != 2) errx(1, "bad usage"); num = strtouq(av[1], NULL, 0); printf("Result: %s -> %qu\n", av[1], num); return(0); } It produces this output... $ strtouq 1234 Result: 1234 -> 1234 $ strtouq 4294967294 Result: 4294967294 -> 4294967294 $ strtouq 4294967296 Result: 4294967296 -> 18446744073709551615 $ strtouq 18446744073709551615 Result: 18446744073709551615 -> 18446744073709551615 $ strtouq 18446744073709551614 Result: 18446744073709551614 -> 18446744073709551615 Seems like it can't handle any value higher than 2^32 ? This happens on both 2.1 and -current. -Archie ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie L. Cobbs, archie@whistle.com * Whistle Communications Corporation From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 17:02:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA28377 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 17:02:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA28371 for FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 17:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 17:02:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Lehey Message-Id: <199607010002.RAA28371@freefall.freebsd.org> To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. =================================================== Last update 7 May 1996. This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the questions (the "hackers"**). In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. I'm taking the viewpoint of the newcomer here: we have other ways of handling arrogant hackers :-) When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, please remember: 1. Nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question. They do it of their own free will. You can influence this free will positively by submitting a well-formulated question supplying as much relevant information as possible. You can influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete, illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible to send a message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer. In the rest of this document, we'll look at how to get the most out of your question to FreeBSD-questions. 2. Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message, so please specify a subject. "FreeBSD problem" or "Can't get this to work" aren't enough. If you provide no subject at all, most people won't bother reading it. If your subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may not read it. 3. Please try to format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!!!!!. We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak English as their first language, and we try to make allowances for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message written full of typos or without any line breaks. 4. Please don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly, a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the questions to read the message. 5. Please specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult area, and we need to expand on what information you need to submit, but here's a start: - If you get error messages, don't say "I get error messages", say (for example) "I get the error message 'No route to host'". - If your system panics, don't say "My system panicked", say (for example) "my system panicked with the message 'free vnode isn't'". - If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your machine. 6. If you don't get an answer, there could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after, say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same message again and again will only make you unpopular. For example, let's assume you know the answer to the following question. You choose which of these two questions you would be more prepared to answer: Message 1: Subject: (none) I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message 2: Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing Operating System". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ** Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for this activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 17:11:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA29091 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 17:11:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail (mail.bcpl.lib.md.us [204.255.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA29084 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 17:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp97.bcpl.lib.md.us by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA01766; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 20:12:12 +0500 Received: by ppp97.bcpl.lib.md.us with Microsoft Mail id <01BB66C0.80116C00@ppp97.bcpl.lib.md.us>; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 20:12:45 -0400 Message-Id: <01BB66C0.80116C00@ppp97.bcpl.lib.md.us> From: Anil John To: "'FreeBSD Questions'" Subject: Missing File - libc.s0.3.0 - help! Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 20:12:43 -0400 Encoding: 25 TEXT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, After much trial and error I finally mangaged to get X running with my ATI Graphics Xpression card (had to use the beta Mach64 server). I also got the 'xdm' window manager running. But after I installed the fvwm,xfm & xpm packages using pkg_add, I could not get fvwm window manager running. I got a message that says: ld.so: fvwm: Can't find shared library "libc.so.3.0' I also got the same missing library message when I tried to run 'xli'. where does one find this shared library and once I find it, which directory should I put it in. Anil ___________________________________________________________ CyberForge Group LLC * Internet Consulting E-Mail: ajohn@cyberforge.com * WWW Publishing 410-597-8139 * LAN & WAN Integration URL: http://www.cyberforge.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 17:38:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA02349 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 17:38:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA02338; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 17:38:14 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199607010038.RAA02338@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Missing File - libc.s0.3.0 - help! To: ajohn@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us (Anil John) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 17:38:14 -3100 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <01BB66C0.80116C00@ppp97.bcpl.lib.md.us> from "Anil John" at Jun 30, 96 08:12:43 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anil John wrote: > > Greetings, > > After much trial and error I finally mangaged to get X running with my ATI > Graphics Xpression card (had to use the beta Mach64 server). I also got the > 'xdm' window manager running. > > But after I installed the fvwm,xfm & xpm packages using pkg_add, I could > not get fvwm window manager running. I got a message that says: > > ld.so: fvwm: Can't find shared library "libc.so.3.0' try a "ldd `which fvwm`" it will list all the shareed libraries that fvwm requirs and which libraries on your system ld will use for fvwm. some will not be found (eg libc.so.3.0) find where you have that library (should be in /usr/lib on a current system) if your system it not running current (check with "uname -a") then try making a symlink to your most recent libs.so.X.X and run "ldconfig -m /usr/lib" then try fvwm again. if no joy, then you need to run current. jmb -- Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD--4.4BSD Unix for PC clones, source included. http://www.freebsd.org/ PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 18:01:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA04617 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 18:01:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail (mail.bcpl.lib.md.us [204.255.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA04608 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 18:01:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp97.bcpl.lib.md.us by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA04943; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 21:01:45 +0500 Received: by ppp97.bcpl.lib.md.us with Microsoft Mail id <01BB66C7.6B76E660@ppp97.bcpl.lib.md.us>; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 21:02:17 -0400 Message-Id: <01BB66C7.6B76E660@ppp97.bcpl.lib.md.us> From: Anil John To: "'Jonathan M. Bresler'" Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: Missing File - libc.s0.3.0 - help! Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 21:02:15 -0400 Encoding: 14 TEXT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jonathan M. Bresler[SMTP:jmb@freefall.freebsd.org] wrote: >Anil John wrote: >> ld.so: fvwm: Can't find shared library "libc.so.3.0' > > > if your system it not running current (check with "uname -a") > then try making a symlink to your most recent libs.so.X.X > and run "ldconfig -m /usr/lib" > I am running 2.1R. and my latest is libc.so.2.2. I did what you suggested and xli works now. But fvwm just gives me a message: fvwm: can't open display... Anil From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 18:50:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA08945 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 18:50:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lux.levels.unisa.edu.au (9605321s@lux.Levels.UniSA.Edu.Au [130.220.16.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA08900 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 18:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lux.levels.unisa.edu.au (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA08210; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:19:54 +0930 From: 9605321s@lux.levels.unisa.edu.au (9605321s) Message-Id: <9607010149.AA08210@lux.levels.unisa.edu.au> Subject: FreeBSD CD To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:19:53 +0930 (GMT+0930) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk To Whom it May Concern, In regards to your CD ROM that contains FreeBSD, do you have any suppliers here in Australia? It would make it a helluva lot easier to get, rather that a) FTP and b) send the cheque to the States. Alas, if you can only get this CD from the USA, well...I think I can JUST manage it :) Thanks for your time, Tony From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 19:30:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA13448 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 19:30:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jbrann.dialup.access.net (jbrann.dialup.access.net [166.84.193.118]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA13430 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 19:30:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jbrann@localhost) by jbrann.dialup.access.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA09971; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 22:36:32 -0400 Message-Id: <199607010236.WAA09971@jbrann.dialup.access.net> Subject: Re: Missing File - libc.s0.3.0 - help! To: ajohn@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us (Anil John) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 22:36:31 -2800 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org (freeq) In-Reply-To: <01BB66C0.80116C00@ppp97.bcpl.lib.md.us> from Anil John at "Jun 30, 96 08:12:43 pm" From: John Brann Reply-To: John Brann Organisation: Not while I'm at home X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL13 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anil John wrote... > Greetings, > > After much trial and error I finally mangaged to get X running with my ATI > Graphics Xpression card (had to use the beta Mach64 server). I also got the > 'xdm' window manager running. > > But after I installed the fvwm,xfm & xpm packages using pkg_add, I could > not get fvwm window manager running. I got a message that says: > > ld.so: fvwm: Can't find shared library "libc.so.3.0' > > I also got the same missing library message when I tried to run 'xli'. > > where does one find this shared library and once I find it, which directory > should I put it in. > > Anil > > ___________________________________________________________ > CyberForge Group LLC * Internet Consulting > E-Mail: ajohn@cyberforge.com * WWW Publishing > 410-597-8139 * LAN & WAN Integration > URL: http://www.cyberforge.com > > > I suspect you are running 2.1 Release, but that the version of fvwm was ported / packaged later than that. Go back to the package which was synchronized with 2.1 and you shouldn't have any trouble. The major number (or whatever it's called on a shared lib) of libc.so.?.? was changed recently (2.2 SNAPs have had 3.0 in them). John -- Beavis and Butt-Head; Vladimir and Estragon for the '90s. finger jbrann@panix.com for pgp public key From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 19:36:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA14121 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 19:36:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jbrann.dialup.access.net (jbrann.dialup.access.net [166.84.193.118]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA14100 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 19:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jbrann@localhost) by jbrann.dialup.access.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA09983; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 22:41:47 -0400 Message-Id: <199607010241.WAA09983@jbrann.dialup.access.net> Subject: Re: Shutdown MSGS To: JSINNOTT@POMONA.EDU (JOHN) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 22:41:47 -2800 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org (freeq) In-Reply-To: <01I6IXVR2N0Y8WWJPI@POMONA.EDU> from JOHN at "Jun 30, 96 04:16:41 pm" From: John Brann Reply-To: John Brann Organisation: Not while I'm at home X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL13 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk JOHN wrote... > Is this sequence of numbers (the number of blocks that still need to be flushed) > - is this sequence SUPPOSED to countdown - for instance - my machine says > something like syncing disks... 6 6 6 6 6 > then it shuts down. > > John > > Normally, it does. I have seen repeated digits, like this. If your system is happy when it reboots, then there wasn't a problem. Once the buffers have been flushed, the disk is 'synced' which sets the clean flag in the super-block. That doesn't happen until AFTER the cache is flushed. If the clean flag isn't set on boot-up, the boot process runs fsck (and complains) in order to clean up the disk. John -- Beavis and Butt-Head; Vladimir and Estragon for the '90s. finger jbrann@panix.com for pgp public key From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 20:49:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA20896 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 20:49:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA20888 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 20:49:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA21525; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 20:48:30 -0700 (PDT) To: James FitzGibbon cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1-960627-SNAP (2.1.5 BETA) is released. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 29 Jun 1996 15:06:09 EDT." Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 20:48:30 -0700 Message-ID: <21523.836192910@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > If this is still the case, could the code for 2.1.5 be left on the SUP > servers as -stable for a periopd (one month?) after the release comes out > ? That way, the people who have been following -stable can do one final > SUP, make world, and decide where to go from there without having to > manually migrate systems (which, dependent on the number of systems, could > be a nightmare.) That was already more or less the intention - not to worry. Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 20:53:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA21283 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 20:53:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.texoma.com (root@mercury.texoma.com [205.229.106.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA21275 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 20:53:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cbyler125.texoma.com (ppp48.texoma.com [205.229.106.48]) by mercury.texoma.com (8.6.12/BuGless_texoma_1.00) with SMTP id WAA15671 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 22:53:30 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960701034602.006b2ba4@texoma.com> X-Sender: cbyler125@texoma.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 22:46:02 -0500 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Chris Byler Subject: Hard Ware Configuration Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Questions: I have a Western Digital EIDE 1.2 gig and a Sony 2X cdrom configured as slave. Are there any known problems with the configuration? Chris Byler http://www.texoma.com/~cbyler125 From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jun 30 23:42:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA03660 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 23:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (s_koyin@eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU [128.250.6.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA03648 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 23:42:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from s_koyin@localhost) by eduserv.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (8.7.4/8.7.3) id QAA14077; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:43:21 +1000 (EST) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:43:20 +1000 (EST) From: HMG coA reductase To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: 4.4BSD book Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk i went to the bookshop today and was surprised to hear that a 2nd edition of "The Design and Implementation of the 4.4BSD OS" is in the press, due August. just to let ya know... ivan From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 00:02:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA04612 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 00:02:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from proxy.siemens.at (proxy.siemens.at [192.138.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA04601 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 00:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sol1.gud.siemens.co.at (sol-f.gud.siemens-austria) by proxy.siemens.at with SMTP id AA17054 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:01:03 +0200 Received: from ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at by sol1.gud.siemens.co.at with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #7 for ) id m0uacyk-00021IC; Mon, 1 Jul 96 09:01 MET DST Received: by ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at (1.37.109.16/1.37) id AA157124388; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 08:59:48 +0200 From: "Hr.Ladavac" Message-Id: <199607010659.AA157124388@ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at> Subject: Re: Missing File - libc.s0.3.0 - help! To: ajohn@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us (Anil John) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 08:59:48 +0200 (MESZ) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <01BB66C7.6B76E660@ppp97.bcpl.lib.md.us> from "Anil John" at Jun 30, 96 09:02:15 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In his e-mail Anil John wrote: > > Jonathan M. Bresler[SMTP:jmb@freefall.freebsd.org] wrote: > >Anil John wrote: > >> ld.so: fvwm: Can't find shared library "libc.so.3.0' > > > > > > if your system it not running current (check with "uname -a") > > then try making a symlink to your most recent libs.so.X.X > > and run "ldconfig -m /usr/lib" > > > I am running 2.1R. and my latest is libc.so.2.2. I did what you suggested and xli works now. But fvwm just gives me a message: > > fvwm: can't open display... setting DISPLAY environment variable to :0. somewhere in the script prior to starting fvwm might help :) I believe it belongs into xsession script (if you use xdm) or .xinitrc if you use startx/xstart scripts. Have fun, /Marino > > Anil > > From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 01:18:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA09510 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 01:18:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from viking.ucsalf.ac.uk (viking.ucsalf.ac.uk [192.195.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA09493 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 01:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by viking.ucsalf.ac.uk (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0uaeBq-00036tC; Mon, 1 Jul 96 09:18 BST Message-Id: From: mark@plato.ucsalf.ac.uk (Mark Powell) Subject: Root filesystem on NFS, Linux style ??? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: 1 Jul 1996 09:18:28 +0100 X-Gated-To-News-By: news@ucsalf.ac.uk Xref: viking.ucsalf.ac.uk list.freebsd.chat:601 list.freebsd.questions:6984 comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc:21437 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Linux allows a kernel to be booted from DOS and then perform it's own RARP to find it's IP and root filesystem over NFS. FreeBSD only seems to allow this with the netboot.(com|rom) program (albeit using BOOTP.) We use this here to allow users to turn their PC into an X terminal be selecting an option from our DOS menu system. We currently do it with Linux. However, I'd prefer to do it with FreeBSD, for obvious reasons. NETNOOT.COM does not work if there is already a network driver loaded, as there is in our case. Is there anything afoot allow the kernel to be configured with some of the netboot.com functionality into the kernel? -- Mark Powell - Senior Network Technician - Room: C806 Computer Services Unit, University College Salford, Salford, UK. Tel: +44 161 745 3376 Fax: +44 161 736 3596 Email: mark@ucsalf.ac.uk finger mark@ucsalf.ac.uk (for PGP key) Home Page From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 04:09:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA19376 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 04:09:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from colombia.it.earthlink.net (colombia-c.it.earthlink.net [206.85.92.243]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA19371 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 04:09:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bluesky (pool014.Max1.San-Francisco.CA.DYNIP.ALTER.NET [153.37.98.14]) by colombia.it.earthlink.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA18285 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 04:08:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <31D7B10E.1851@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 04:05:50 -0700 From: bluesky X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: HP 4020i CD Writer X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear sir I need your help. I read the relnotes.txt in both 2.2-960612-SNAP and 2.1-960627-SNAP. They both said support the HP 4080i CD writer. But, when I search HP's home page. There is not such CD writer. Now, I have a question about my HP 4020i CD Writer. Which release supports my CD writer. Thank you for your nice attention. bluesky@earthlink.net 7-1-96 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 05:00:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA22564 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 05:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from casparc.ppp.net (casparc.ppp.net [194.64.12.35]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA22556 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 05:00:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schubert.promo.de by casparc.ppp.net with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uagfM-000Hz6C; Mon, 1 Jul 96 12:57 MET DST Received: from quick.promo.de (quick.Promo.DE [194.45.188.67]) by schubert.promo.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA08936 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:55:09 +0200 Message-ID: Date: 1 Jul 1996 12:56:12 +0200 From: "Stefan Bethke" Subject: TCP time-outs on PPP line To: "FreeBSD Questions" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP-QM 3.0.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; Name="Message Body" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, we are connected through an analog leased line with two USR Courier, = using 2.1.0R and pppd. Since upgrading from Linux we experience some TCP "connection timed out" = failures. It seems that at those moments someone is downloading from our = HTTP or FTP server (looking at the modem leds and = ftpwho/xferlog/http-log). Trying to ping the terminal server of our provider doesn't give a = response; after 5 or so pings, ping says "No buffer space available". My understanding is that the already established TCP connection quickly = fills the output buffer and saturates the line; at this point, a packet = inserted into the queue will be sent after (worst case) mtu / bandwith * = queue length (ifq_maxlen) =3D 1500 / 2880 * 50 =3D 27 seconds. (Or, = taking fastq into account, 54 secs). What's the solution? Possibilities are - reduce ifq_maxlen, so ENOBUF will be returned earlier, so TCP will (hopefully) send slower earlier; - reduce the mtu, so a full queue run will be faster, thereby allowing a = new packet to be sent faster; - devise a mechanism to promote those connections we want to precede our external users' connections to the fastq; possibly by promoting all packets smaller than xxx bytes to fastq; - upgrade to a 2 Mbit line :-) I didn't test any of these yet, because I rather like to have a slow but = working line... Any comments will be greatly appreciated. Stefan Bethke -- Promo Datentechnik | Tel. 040/431360-0 + Systemberatung GmbH | Fax. 040/431360-60 Waterloohain 6-8 | e-mail: stefan@Promo.DE D-22769 Hamburg | http://www.Promo.DE/ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 05:23:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA23738 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 05:23:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from garion.hq.ferg.com (pm1-02.wmbg.widomaker.com [204.17.220.102]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA23733 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 05:22:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.hq.ferg.com (localhost.hq.ferg.com [127.0.0.1]) by garion.hq.ferg.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA12639; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 08:23:02 -0400 Message-Id: <199607011223.IAA12639@garion.hq.ferg.com> X-Authentication-Warning: garion.hq.ferg.com: Host localhost.hq.ferg.com didn't use HELO protocol From: Branson Matheson To: "John A. Perry" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RealAudio?? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 29 Jun 1996 06:57:40 CDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 08:23:01 -0400 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -------- "John A. Perry" uttered with conviction: > I just FTP'ed the RealAudio software for FreeB SD 2.1 from > www.realaudio.com. I followed the installation instru ctions but > whenever I try to play a realaudio file it comes out souding wor se > that a cat fight. For the record, I can play .mod files with > tracker an d standard audio CD thru my sound card without problems. > Here is a device list from dmesg. Maybe someone can help me or tell > me what I need to d o to get RealAudio to work? TIA I also have had the exact same problem... I know my sound card is good... I listen to s3m and mods all day. -branson ============================================================================= Branson Matheson | Ferguson Enterprises | If Pete and Repeat were System Administrator | W: (804) 874-7795 | sittin on a fence and Pete Unix, Perl, WWW | branson@widomaker.com | fell off, who is left? From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 05:51:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA25001 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 05:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jbrann.dialup.access.net (jbrann.dialup.access.net [166.84.193.118]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA24994 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 05:51:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jbrann@localhost) by jbrann.dialup.access.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA10711; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 08:57:23 -0400 Message-Id: <199607011257.IAA10711@jbrann.dialup.access.net> Subject: Re: ppp problems To: flaq@synwork.com (Mike K.) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 08:57:23 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org (freeq) In-Reply-To: from "Mike K." at "Jun 30, 96 09:44:26 pm" From: John Brann Reply-To: John Brann Organisation: Not while I'm at home X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL13 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Mike K. wrote... [preamble removed] For a dedicated connection, I'd suggest using pppd. There has been some discussion recently on problems using the ppp program for long term / dedicated connections. (Although I use dial-on-demand, I need to stop and re-start the ppp program about once a week, it seems to get choked up.) Your approach (using the script to bring the connection back, if it's vanished) would work fine with pppd. If you want to persist with ppp, I'd say use dial-on-demand, with no timeout, so you will never drop the connection, but it will be restored immediately when needed, if it drops. John -- Beavis and Butt-Head; Vladimir and Estragon for the '90s. finger jbrann@panix.com for pgp public key From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 06:48:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA27848 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 06:48:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix1.ism.com.br (root@unix1.ism.com.br [200.255.211.35]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA27842 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 06:48:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clpc1.compuland.com.br (clpc1.compuland.com.br [200.255.96.22]) by unix1.ism.com.br (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA00525 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:47:37 -0300 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:47:37 -0300 Message-Id: <199607011347.KAA00525@unix1.ism.com.br> X-Sender: compland@ism.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: compland@ism.com.br (Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica) Subject: Secure NFS Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi: Is it possible to set portmon variable, like in SunOS, in Freebsd to watch out the NFS mounts, forcing the request to come from a privileged port ? It's possible to set secure NFS in Freebsd ? Thanks a lot! Helio. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 06:58:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA28309 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 06:58:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tower.louisville.edu (tower.louisville.edu [136.165.252.246]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA28303 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 06:58:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mike@localhost) by tower.louisville.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA01082 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:58:40 -0400 From: Mike Harpe Message-Id: <199607011358.JAA01082@tower.louisville.edu> Subject: UPS support for 2.1?? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:58:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a Tripp-Lite UPS with the interface cable attached to the CPU of my FreeBSD box. Is there any software out there to support orderly shutdown of FreeBSD during an UPS activation? Mike Harpe From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 07:24:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA29934 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 07:24:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beta.internetional.com.br (beta.internetional.com.br [200.241.232.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA29926; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 07:24:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wagner@localhost) by beta.internetional.com.br (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA10531; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:24:08 -0300 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:24:08 -0300 From: Wagner Ikeda Message-Id: <199607011424.LAA10531@beta.internetional.com.br> To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: 3c590 - Defective early revision adapter! Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Does anyone came up to a way to fix up this message issued at boot time? I am using FreeBSD 2.2 SNAP 960501. Any help will be much appreciated. Please answer direct to my personal address, since I do not subscribe to these mailling lists. TIA. Regards, Wagnewr From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 08:14:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA03398 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 08:14:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x1.boston.juno.com (x1.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.21]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA03388 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 08:14:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fadorno@juno.com) by x1.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id LAA28960; Mon, 01 Jul 1996 11:14:19 EDT To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 08:14:02 PST Subject: udp unsupported services Message-ID: <19960701.081402.10318.0.fadorno@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.00 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 3 From: fadorno@juno.com (Fred Adorno) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I noticed after installing x-window that I get an error message from the kernel stating to effect syslogd: udp services unsupported. What is it and how do I fix it? There is many refererences to this protocol in inetd.conf and in services. What went wrong? From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 08:19:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA03716 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 08:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from trem.cnt.org.br (desvio.cnt.org.br [200.19.123.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA03699 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 08:19:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by trem.cnt.org.br (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA12242; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:16:35 -0300 From: ormonde@trem.cnt.org.br (Rodrigo Ormonde) Message-Id: <9607011516.AA12242@trem.cnt.org.br> Subject: Re: Xwindows % finger To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:16:34 -0300 (GRNLNDST) Cc: datcos@netvision.net.il In-Reply-To: <199606301604.JAA23541@freefall.freebsd.org> from "owner-questions-digest@freefall.freebsd.org" at Jun 30, 96 09:04:57 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi ! > Recently, I moved to FreeBSD, and as usual, a newbie must ask something. > So my questions are: > My domain name is rilv.net.il, when I try: finger root, it works ok and > I see info about myself, however, when I try: finger root@rilv.net.il > I receive: > [rilv.net.il] It seems that your fingerd isn't running. Look at /etc/inetd.conf and make sure you have an uncommented line like this: finger stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/fingerd fingerd > and thats all ... Then, I opened for myself additional account, called > igal, and I decided to send mail from root to igal. > I wrote: > mail igal > subject: Dont worry be happy (for example) > ggdagdg > ggdsagdsgsd > gdgsdagasgs > ghsdahhg > And it worked. But when I did > mail igal@rilv.net.il and sent the same message, it did not worked, > and I even received message about DELIVERY ERROR any ideas ? You have to configure your DNS and Sendmail to receive mails from the internet. Make sure you have the following in your zone file: rilv.net.il. IN A xxx.yyy.zzz.www IN MX 0 your_mail_relay.rilv.net.il. In /etc/sendmail.cf, make sure you have configured the Dw, DD and Cw macros. In Cw, you must include rilv.net.il, in Dw your hostname and in DD your domainname. I think this will solve your problems. -- Rodrigo de La Rocque Ormonde Confederacao Nacional do Transporte e-mail: ormonde@cnt.org.br PGP Public key: finger ormonde@cnt.org.br From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 08:48:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA05471 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 08:48:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from net1.netview.net (netview.net [199.3.74.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA05463 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 08:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from corona (corona.netview.net [206.223.98.2]) by net1.netview.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA03647 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:48:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:48:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960701110456.009290e0@netview.net> X-Sender: jrclark@netview.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: John Clark Subject: wu_ftpd port "Service not available" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have been trying to use the Washington University FTP daemon. It will not allow me to login: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 220 net1.netview.net FTP server (Version wu-2.4(3) Mon Jul 1 10:07:50 EST 1996) ready. Name (netview.net:sa): root 221 Server shutting down. Goodbye. 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection ------------------------------------------------------------------------- And yes, I do know that root is in the "disallowed" list, but the above is the same message I get for any user: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 220 net1.netview.net FTP server (Version wu-2.4(3) Mon Jul 1 10:43:43 EST 1996) ready. Name (netview.net:sa): sa 221 Server shutting down. Goodbye. 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection ------------------------------------------------------------------------- It would seem that it should be a simple matter to fix this, but for the life of me, I don't know how. In the past, I have used wu_ftpd without a hitch. I think it is the crazy shadow-passwords database system that FreeBSD uses that is confusing the server??? Also, please note the number in parentheses on my server (3): ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 220 net1.netview.net FTP server (Version wu-2.4(3) Mon Jul 1 10:07:50 EST 1996) ready. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The cdrom.com server is a bit different: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 220 wcarchive.cdrom.com FTP server (Version wu-2.4(17) Sat Jun 22 21:37:48 PDT 1996) ready. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- What does that mean? A revision number? Thanks, John Clark [jc@netview.net] From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 09:17:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA07342 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:17:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rk.ios.com (rk.ios.com [198.4.75.55]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA07337 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:17:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rashid@localhost) by rk.ios.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA09265 for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:16:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Rashid Karimov Message-Id: <199607011616.MAA09265@rk.ios.com> Subject: SMP supports. To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:16:49 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there folx, David most probably is tired of answering SMP related questions, but I'll formulate mine a bit differently: when will guys at freebsd.org plug extra PPro(s) into ftp.freebsd.org's Alder ? :))) where can we find most up-date info on SMP in FreeBSD ? How naturally does it go so far ? Any guidelines for current kernel developers ? Locking ( semaphores/mutex'es) primitives to use ? It looks to me that current kernel development goes being completely SMP-unaware, even though full SMP support is clearly future of FreeBSD project and as I understand we already have working systems. Rashid. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 09:17:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA07363 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from casparc.ppp.net (casparc.ppp.net [194.64.12.35]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA07355 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:17:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schubert.promo.de by casparc.ppp.net with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0ualfH-000I0vC; Mon, 1 Jul 96 18:17 MET DST Received: from quick.promo.de (quick.Promo.DE [194.45.188.67]) by schubert.promo.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA10075; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 18:15:23 +0200 Message-ID: Date: 1 Jul 1996 18:16:17 +0200 From: "Stefan Bethke" Subject: Re: TCP time-outs on PPP li To: "FreeBSD Questions" Cc: "Oleg N Panashchenko" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP-QM 3.0.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; Name="Message Body" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > What serial device is used to attach your modem? Possibly it's > broken driver. I have the same problems with ancient versions > of Digiboard driver. The line performs with around 3 kB/sec, even with a fair cpu load; I = currently don't think that there are problems at the serial level (serial = speed is 57600 with a fifo uart [Asus SP3G]). From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 09:25:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA07754 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twwells.com (twwells.com [199.79.159.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA07749 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:25:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by twwells.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0ualmS-0001BNC; Mon, 1 Jul 96 12:24 EDT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Subject: Re: a talkd/write improvement I made Date: 1 Jul 1996 12:24:54 -0400 Lines: 38 Message-ID: <4r8u4m$9k5@twwells.com> References: <4qur3j$qr0@twwells.com> <199606280115.BAA09748@jraynard.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.twwells.com Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <199606280115.BAA09748@jraynard.demon.co.uk>, James Raynard wrote: : > : How about *not* allowing the write if .talkrc exists but is : > : unreadable? That way, I can make my .talkrc readable by a group that : > : represents, for example, people working on the same project, and use : > : it to filter them more selectively, while shutting everyone else out. : > : > That doesn't resolve the problem. The usual problem is people : > protecting their home directories. Then, I can't tell if they : > have a .talkrc. : : Actually, you can if you check errno (if it doesn't exist, you get : ENOENT, if it exists but you don't have permission, you get EACCESS). Actually, that's total BS. If the directory does not have permissions are, e.g., 700, you can't check it _at all_. : > Also, your suggestion isn't going to do much for talkd.... : : Not sure I follow you. Since talkd runs as root, it will be able to : read the file whatever the permissions on the path components are, : won't it? Right. But in the case of talkd, you have a wider range of possible requestors; it includes people not on your machine. Thus, and this isn't all that atypical, if some of the people working on the same project aren't on your machine, they're unable to talk to you. The only advantage of your suggestion is that it allows the specification of the group to be done at one place, in the /etc/group file. Be that as it may, were I do do this, it would not be by means of the group of the file, it would be by means of a special syntax in the file to specify groups. That way, you could allow talk from multiple groups. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 09:50:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA09470 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:50:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mother.cdrom.com (mother.cdrom.com [204.216.28.172]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA09464 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:50:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (support@localhost) by mother.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA26597 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Delivery-Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:25:33 -0700 X-Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.28.34]) by mother.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA03473 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:25:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: from wc.cdrom.com (wc.cdrom.com [204.216.28.155]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id IAA10974 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:25:32 -0700 X-Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.28.34]) by wc.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA19800 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:25:08 -0700 X-Received: from aiicsx01.eln.gov.br ([200.18.16.66]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id IAA10968 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:25:06 -0700 X-Received: from 200.18.16.65 ([200.18.16.82]) by aiicsx01.eln.gov.br (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA01488 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:24:07 -0300 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:24:07 -0300 Message-Id: <199606281524.MAA01488@aiicsx01.eln.gov.br> X-Sender: fazra@eln.gov.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: support@cdrom.com From: fazra@eln.gov.br (Flavio Azra Barrenechea) Subject: FreeBSD Installation ReSent-Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:50:02 -0700 (PDT) ReSent-From: Jamil Weatherbee ReSent-To: questions@freebsd.org ReSent-Message-ID: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear Sirs while undertaking a minimal installation from a DOS partition it tells me that it has failed to load the ROOT distribution "Please correct this problem and try again". on VTY2 I see stand/cp stand/cksum stand/chmod stand/ee stand/df stand/cat stand/ls gunzip: stdio: invalid compressed data -- format violated /stand/cpio: premature end of file DEBUG: Dummy [default] close called for Wd0S1 with fd of 6 when I try again with the bin from disk 2 the only difference is that instead of "format violated" I get "crc error" could it be that the disks have a recording error ? sincerely Antony Stevens ps please reply c/o fazra@eln.gov.br ================================================ Centrais Eletricas do Norte do Brasil S/A Flavio Azra Barrenechea ================================================ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 09:50:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA09510 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:50:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mother.cdrom.com (mother.cdrom.com [204.216.28.172]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA09495 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:50:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (support@localhost) by mother.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA26601 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:50:28 -0700 (PDT) Delivery-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:05:15 -0700 X-Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.28.34]) by mother.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA09741 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:05:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: from wc.cdrom.com (wc.cdrom.com [204.216.28.155]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id MAA18737 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:05:26 -0700 X-Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.28.34]) by wc.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA22912 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:05:01 -0700 X-Received: from lint.cisco.com (lint.cisco.com [171.68.223.44]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id MAA18733 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:05:24 -0700 X-Received: (skrishna@localhost) by lint.cisco.com (8.6.10/CISCO.SERVER.1.1) id MAA00758; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:05:49 -0700 Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:05:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Sridhar Krishnan To: questions@freebsd.org, support@cdrom.com cc: kopti@seas.gwu.edu Subject: Re: Boot Manager/ BSD on second disk (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ReSent-Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:50:20 -0700 (PDT) ReSent-From: Jamil Weatherbee ReSent-To: questions@freebsd.org ReSent-Message-ID: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi BSD'ers, This is in response to my earlier posting re: booting FreeBSD off the second hard disk. I have not recvd. much any solutions thus far. When I re-installed the whole thing again, I got a message "root system is read-only" in a dialog-box. Does anybody know what this means ? What I have found is the following: - If I install the BootEasy (during the sysinstall), the MBR is put on the boot area of the second disk (because FreeBSD is on second disk ?). I changed BIOS to look at second disk first for booting purposes, and I got the F1- dos, F2- BSD prompt. F2 would boot fine from the hard disk but would error with a panic: error in root (I don't recall the exact string). I have to try to use the fixit floppy to see if I can fsck the root system. I tried several options on the BIOS to "enable/disable" parameter mapping etc. - The install diskette has an option to change the root file system at the Boot: prompt. I tried -a flag, but it did not seem to work. Help will be greatly appreciated! TIA, Sridhar Krishnan From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 09:51:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA09537 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:51:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mother.cdrom.com (mother.cdrom.com [204.216.28.172]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA09530 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:50:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (support@localhost) by mother.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA26605 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:50:53 -0700 (PDT) Delivery-Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:38:50 -0700 X-Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.28.34]) by mother.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA09972 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:38:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: from wc.cdrom.com (wc.cdrom.com [204.216.28.155]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id MAA18904 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:39:01 -0700 X-Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.28.34]) by wc.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA23099 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:38:37 -0700 X-Received: from midnight.keanesea.com (midnight.keanesea.com [206.213.110.9]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id MAA18900 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:38:59 -0700 X-Received: (from cyrusgr@localhost) by midnight.keanesea.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) id MAA01833; Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:41:11 +0800 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 12:41:11 +0800 (GMT-8) From: Cyrus Gray To: support@cdrom.com Subject: FreeBSD Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ReSent-Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:50:39 -0700 (PDT) ReSent-From: Jamil Weatherbee ReSent-To: questions@freebsd.org ReSent-Message-ID: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How do I go about configureing three 3c5x9 cards? I have all their i/o, mem, irq's different but when I try to enable ep1, or ep2 it errors out. Do I need to recompile the kernel? any help would be appriciated Cyrus Gray P.S. I work for Keane incase you need it to look up info in your database (I did order FreeBSD from you) Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 09:57:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA10026 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:57:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mother.cdrom.com (mother.cdrom.com [204.216.28.172]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA10014 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (support@localhost) by mother.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA26822 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:56:49 -0700 (PDT) Delivery-Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:25:33 -0700 X-Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.28.34]) by mother.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA03473 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:25:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: from wc.cdrom.com (wc.cdrom.com [204.216.28.155]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id IAA10974 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:25:32 -0700 X-Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.28.34]) by wc.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA19800 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:25:08 -0700 X-Received: from aiicsx01.eln.gov.br ([200.18.16.66]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id IAA10968 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:25:06 -0700 X-Received: from 200.18.16.65 ([200.18.16.82]) by aiicsx01.eln.gov.br (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA01488 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:24:07 -0300 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:24:07 -0300 Message-Id: <199606281524.MAA01488@aiicsx01.eln.gov.br> X-Sender: fazra@eln.gov.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: support@cdrom.com From: fazra@eln.gov.br (Flavio Azra Barrenechea) Subject: FreeBSD Installation ReSent-Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 09:56:31 -0700 (PDT) ReSent-From: Jamil Weatherbee ReSent-To: questions@freebsd.org ReSent-Message-ID: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear Sirs while undertaking a minimal installation from a DOS partition it tells me that it has failed to load the ROOT distribution "Please correct this problem and try again". on VTY2 I see stand/cp stand/cksum stand/chmod stand/ee stand/df stand/cat stand/ls gunzip: stdio: invalid compressed data -- format violated /stand/cpio: premature end of file DEBUG: Dummy [default] close called for Wd0S1 with fd of 6 when I try again with the bin from disk 2 the only difference is that instead of "format violated" I get "crc error" could it be that the disks have a recording error ? sincerely Antony Stevens ps please reply c/o fazra@eln.gov.br ================================================ Centrais Eletricas do Norte do Brasil S/A Flavio Azra Barrenechea ================================================ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 10:01:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA10423 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:01:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mother.cdrom.com (mother.cdrom.com [204.216.28.172]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA10416 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:01:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (support@localhost) by mother.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA27009 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:01:27 -0700 (PDT) Delivery-Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 18:34:05 -0700 X-Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.28.34]) by mother.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA14125 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 18:34:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: from wc.cdrom.com (wc.cdrom.com [204.216.28.155]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id SAA13880 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 18:34:06 -0700 X-Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.28.34]) by wc.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA23996 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 18:33:42 -0700 X-Received: from lint.cisco.com (lint.cisco.com [171.68.223.44]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id SAA13876 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 18:34:05 -0700 X-Received: (skrishna@localhost) by lint.cisco.com (8.6.10/CISCO.SERVER.1.1) id SAA10652; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 18:34:28 -0700 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 18:34:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Sridhar Krishnan To: support@cdrom.com Subject: FreeBSD 2.1 Help Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ReSent-Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:01:18 -0700 (PDT) ReSent-From: Jamil Weatherbee ReSent-To: questions@freebsd.org ReSent-Message-ID: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I purchased and installed FreeBSD 2.1 from Walnut Creek CD-ROM. I need help on the following items: 1. I configured the serial port 1 (which has a built in modem) for the IRQ4 and i/o address of 0x3e8 (as per BIOS 03E8h). The new kernel recognizes the port. However, when I use /dev/cuaa0 it does not work.For example, I tried echo ATDT11111 >/dev/cuaa0. The modem should atleast be off the hook and I should here a dial-tone. No. Also, ppp seems to hang. I had the ppp.conf in /etc/ppp directory configured to use this device. No go. 2. I am getting UnixSocket error after I boot. So, I am unable to ping localhost. 3. I have a Trident SVGA card on PCI motherboard with Linear Accelerator and 1MB of VRAM, and I tried configuring for X86_SVGA and it errors with chipset did not recognize xxx address. I should be able to use SVGA with 256 colors (like Windows does). 4. Sections of Handbook on-line are incomplete like Serial (which is marked with *). Is this right ? Please Help. Thanks putting out a great product. The Install Book is great. Sridhar Krishnan From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 10:17:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA11505 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:17:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mother.cdrom.com (mother.cdrom.com [204.216.28.172]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA11481 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:17:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (support@localhost) by mother.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA27856 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:17:23 -0700 (PDT) Delivery-Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 15:15:44 -0700 X-Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.28.34]) by mother.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA04315 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 15:15:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: from wc.cdrom.com (wc.cdrom.com [204.216.28.155]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id PAA19180 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 15:15:43 -0700 X-Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.28.34]) by wc.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA27010 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 15:15:18 -0700 X-Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id PAA19176 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 1996 15:15:40 -0700 X-Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id ac02796; 29 Jun 96 23:15 +0100 X-Received: from glces.demon.co.uk ([194.222.36.150]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id ab29847; 29 Jun 96 18:32 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 17:44:48 +0100 To: support@cdrom.com From: Mike Curtis Subject: Newboy on FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 1.12 ReSent-Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:17:16 -0700 (PDT) ReSent-From: Jamil Weatherbee ReSent-To: questions@freebsd.org ReSent-Message-ID: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Heeelp!! System spec FreeBSD 2.1 Jan 96 486DX4-100, PCI motherboard AMI Bios, 8Mb ram, Cirrus 5430 Graphic card, IBM 10baseT Ethernet card, IDE Hard drive on primary port of M/B, with CD Rom (Wearnes) set up as SLAVE to drive. What I want to do To create a cheap Intranet webserver/mailserver with connectivity to DOS Windows MAC and Acorn Before taking delivery of FreeBSD I had never any experiance of Unix. I have to say that I do not think it is as difficult as some would have it, although perhaps its early days yet. BUT my Problems (have read FAQs) CD Rom is recognized from boot floppy ie ATAPI driver present but when system installed, not. With network settings installed but no other station on our network setup to talk to it, our new BSD server takes several minutes to boot to the login promt. Message immediatly prior to login promt is unix.glces.com: bad value I am impressed with the quality of this software from a novices point of view and I know from my reading that that even Unix gurus regard it highly. I am on a very steep learning curve so bear with me if my questions seem nieve. -- Mike Curtis From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 10:40:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA14671 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:40:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mother.cdrom.com (mother.cdrom.com [204.216.28.172]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA14662 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:40:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (support@localhost) by mother.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA29033 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:40:32 -0700 (PDT) Delivery-Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:30:13 -0700 X-Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.28.34]) by mother.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA20665 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:30:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: from wc.cdrom.com (wc.cdrom.com [204.216.28.155]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id QAA25049 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:30:14 -0700 X-Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.28.34]) by wc.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA02416 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:29:50 -0700 X-Received: from omail.eee.org (omail.eee.org [163.150.1.3]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id QAA25045 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:30:13 -0700 X-Received: from rduser19.eee.org by omail.eee.org with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA136447319; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:28:39 -0700 X-Received: by rduser19.eee.org with Microsoft Mail id <01BB66A1.C6B2E040@rduser19.eee.org>; Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:32:49 -0700 Message-Id: <01BB66A1.C6B2E040@rduser19.eee.org> From: Patrick Shafer To: "'support@cdrom.com'" Subject: FreeBSD won't install from my IDE CD-ROM Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:32:46 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ReSent-Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:40:21 -0700 (PDT) ReSent-From: Jamil Weatherbee ReSent-To: questions@freebsd.org ReSent-Message-ID: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello! I just bough the FreeBSD v2.1 CD-ROM. I tryed to do the instalation but = when it asks for the source type it says that it can't find a cd drive. = I did use the INST_IDE.BAT and my CD-Drive is set as a master. I = attempted to use the IDE Boot immage but the computer would not start up = using the floppie that is created. I would realy like to know how I can get this thing to install. = Currently my OS is Win95 and my computer is a 486DX2/66 with 16Mbs of = ram and a 1.2 gig HD. You reply is greatly appreciated :-) This message originated from the desk of: Patrick Shafer E-Mail: patrick_shafer@eee.org Web: http://members.aol.com/PShafer15 Irc: Pat123 in #WinHelp on DALnet (irc.dal.net) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 10:43:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA15085 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:43:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.calweb.com (mail.calweb.com [165.90.138.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA15075 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:43:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from calweb.calweb.com (calweb.calweb.com [165.90.138.3]) by mail.calweb.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA16165 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:39:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nfs1.calweb.com (rdugaue@nfs1.calweb.com [165.90.138.45]) by calweb.calweb.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA13564 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:39:45 GMT Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:39:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Du Gaue To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: sup down? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Last few times I've tried supping I get : bash# tail -f sup.log SUP 9.26 (4.3 BSD) for file /etc/supfile at Jul 1 10:35:04 SUP: Can't connect to server for supfilesrv: No route to host SUP: Will retry in 61 seconds As far as I can tell other sites are reachable and the sup machine doesn't appear to be down, ie: rdugaue@nfs1;0.00:/u6/rdugaue} ping sup.freebsd.org PING freefall.FreeBSD.org (204.216.27.4): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 204.216.27.4: icmp_seq=0 ttl=248 time=200.371 ms 64 bytes from 204.216.27.4: icmp_seq=1 ttl=248 time=217.648 ms 64 bytes from 204.216.27.4: icmp_seq=2 ttl=248 time=299.338 ms If I let the sup go, it eventually times out with each hiearchy. :( -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Du Gaue - rdugaue@calweb.com http://www.calweb.com President, CalWeb Internet Services Inc. (916) 641-9320 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 10:52:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA16411 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from liberty.ca.idt.net (root@idt.liberty.com [199.89.140.119]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA16395 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:52:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fred (ppp107.liberty.com [199.89.140.7]) by liberty.ca.idt.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA11602 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <31D8108F.277F@idt.liberty.com> Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 10:53:19 -0700 From: Fred Adorno X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: fvwm and x-windows Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk When I attempt to exec fvwm from the prompt and error message states "Unable to open display"; when attempted while in xterm it states that there's another window manager open. What's the cause for the first error msg? From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 10:57:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA16905 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:57:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mother.cdrom.com (mother.cdrom.com [204.216.28.172]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA16890 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:57:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (support@localhost) by mother.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA29719 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:57:07 -0700 (PDT) Delivery-Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 23:54:43 -0700 X-Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.28.34]) by mother.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA00423 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 23:54:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: from wc.cdrom.com (wc.cdrom.com [204.216.28.155]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id XAA14793 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 23:44:20 -0700 X-Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by wc.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA24797 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 23:43:55 -0700 X-Resent-Message-Id: <199606290643.XAA24797@wc.cdrom.com> X-Authentication-Warning: wc.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol X-Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.28.34]) by wc.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA23999 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 18:37:22 -0700 From: MichaelGoe@aol.com X-Received: from emout14.mail.aol.com (emout14.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.40]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id SAA13887 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 18:37:44 -0700 X-Received: by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA06324 for info@cdrom.com; Fri, 28 Jun 1996 21:38:03 -0400 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 21:38:03 -0400 Message-ID: <960628213802_566408979@emout14.mail.aol.com> To: info@cdrom.com Subject: FreeBSD X-Resent-To: support@wc.cdrom.com X-Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 23:43:55 -0700 X-Resent-From: Order Information ReSent-Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:56:59 -0700 (PDT) ReSent-From: Jamil Weatherbee ReSent-To: questions@freebsd.org ReSent-Message-ID: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just purchased the FreeBSD CD-Rom set. During install of EMACS 19.29 I get an error message that tells me there is a media defect or the file is corrupted. All others I've checked upack fine. Please check your stock and let me know if it is infact the file or the disk. Thanks! Michael Goeringer From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 11:03:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA17747 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:03:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from liberty.ca.idt.net (root@idt.liberty.com [199.89.140.119]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA17725 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:03:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fred (ppp107.liberty.com [199.89.140.7]) by liberty.ca.idt.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA11814 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:03:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <31D81306.44F@idt.liberty.com> Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 11:03:50 -0700 From: Fred Adorno X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Integrated Software Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there any software applications that offers an integrated package like database, mail merge, word processor, spreadsheets, etc. as freeware or othewise for the FreeBSD environment? From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 11:14:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA19520 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:14:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from s4.elec.uq.edu.au (haytham@s4.elec.uq.edu.au [130.102.96.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA19498; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from haytham@localhost) by s4.elec.uq.edu.au (8.7.1/8.6.12) id EAA21104; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 04:13:56 +1000 (EST) From: Haytham Algyndy Message-Id: <199607011813.EAA21104@s4.elec.uq.edu.au> Subject: Netscape Colours trouble To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 04:13:55 +1000 (EST) Cc: ports@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi I tried many times to install different versions of Netscape, But I seem to face the same problem, of switching the colours once the cursor gets out of the main frame. I suspect it has to do with the application defaults but I don't know how to go about it. Thanks for your help Haytham -- ________________________________________________________________________ Haytham Abd-Alsalam Algyndy Dept. of Elec. and Comp. Eng. The UNIVERSITY of QUEENSLAND Brisbane 4072, Queensland Australia haytham@elec.uq.edu.au tel. 61 - 07 - 365 356 4 (AU) Fax. 61 - 07 - 365 499 9 ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 11:28:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA21529 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cube.i-pi.com (cube.i-pi.com [198.49.217.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA21511 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:28:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ingham@localhost) by cube.i-pi.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA08118 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:26:06 -0600 Message-Id: <199607011826.MAA08118@cube.i-pi.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Kenneth Ingham Date: Mon, 1 Jul 96 12:26:05 -0600 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: where is DES? Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I checked the ports, packages, the handbook, and the searchable questions at www.freebsd.org. Could someone tell me where it is hiding (for -ldes which is needed by SSLeay)? I've got the 2.1 CD, so a location there is fine, as is a net location. Thanks. Kenneth Ingham ingham@i-pi.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 11:39:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA22669 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:39:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.southeast.net (root@mailhub.jaxnet.com [204.183.221.15]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA22663 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:39:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from deviant (ts5-001.southeast.net [204.183.221.106]) by mailhub.southeast.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA23706 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:06:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:06:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960701143825.45976416@pop.southeast.net> X-Sender: bwern@pop.southeast.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org From: Ben Wern Subject: FTP Install from MS NT? Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone here ever had any trouble installing via FTP from a Microsoft NT server using the CD (2.1)? During installation, it seems to grab the root image, but doesn't figure out how to get to the bin/ stuff. I attempted to cludge this by setting the starting point of ftp logins to the DIST directory - this caused it to install bin/ just fine, but failed miserably when it tried to move on. I'm assuming this is becuase of a naming or command structure that MS uses that is non-standard, but I haven't been able to identify it yet. Any thoughts? Ben Wern bwern@jaxnet.com or bwern@unf.edu PGP Key Available On Request "I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be." From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 11:40:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA22851 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:40:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA22828 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:40:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id TAA04766; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:24:31 +0100 (BST) To: Anil John cc: "'FreeBSD Questions'" From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Missing File - libc.s0.3.0 - help! In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 30 Jun 1996 20:12:43 EDT." <01BB66C0.80116C00@ppp97.bcpl.lib.md.us> Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 19:24:31 +0100 Message-ID: <4764.836245471@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anil John wrote in message ID <01BB66C0.80116C00@ppp97.bcpl.lib.md.us>: > Greetings, > ld.so: fvwm: Can't find shared library "libc.so.3.0' > > I also got the same missing library message when I tried to run 'xli'. > > where does one find this shared library and once I find it, which directory > should I put it in. You are running packages from the wrong version of FreeBSD. FreeBSD 2.2-current (i.e. the development line for the 2.2 release of FreeBSD) uses libc.so.3.0. FreeBSD-stable (2.1-RELEASE, 2.1.5) uses libc.so.2.2. There are two collections of packages as a result. You probably should try using the stuff in ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.ORG/pub/FreeBSD/packages-2.1.5 (from memory) as that contains all the up-to-date stuff and works with libc.so.2.2 based machines. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 11:40:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA22858 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:40:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from citadel.evolving.com (citadel.evolving.com [198.202.204.162]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA22835 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:40:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from valiant.evolving.com (valiant.evolving.com [198.202.204.66]) by citadel.evolving.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA20091; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:40:09 -0600 Received: from wicked.evolving.com (wicked.evolving.com [198.202.243.96]) by valiant.evolving.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA20040; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:40:07 -0600 Received: from wicked.evolving.com (localhost.evolving.com [127.0.0.1]) by wicked.evolving.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA04319; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:42:28 -0600 Message-ID: <31D81C14.5B83@evolving.com> Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 12:42:28 -0600 From: Ian Roy Organization: Evolving Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (X11; I; HP-UX A.09.05 9000/712) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org CC: iroy@roma.diac.com, iroy@evolving.com Subject: NCR SCSI Controller, 2.1.0-RELEASE and installation X-URL: http://www.cdrom.com/titles/freebsd.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, I would like to exchange e-mail with someone who has had luck installing the 2.1.0-RELEASE on a machine configured something like mine, or anyone who can help me with my dilema - P133 32 MB EDO RAM 4X Mitsumi CD-ROM (IDE) - configured as MASTER, hooked to Primary IDE NCR PCI SCSI COntroller (53C810 reported by FreeBSD 2.1.0) 2 GB HP SCSI Hard Drive Asus Motherboard with NCR SCSI support When I boot up the system with the atapi.flp, it recognizes that I have a NCR 53C810 SCSI Controller at ncr0. The same line ends with something like "[No device drivers attached]". It then goes on to say something like "Waiting for SCSI devices to settle". After a while it comes back giving some kind of error on ncr0:6, something about script cmd and reg. When I try to do the Novice installation, it tells me that I have not hard drives configured. Can anyone help me ? Thanks Ian Roy PS: I'm sorry I don't remember the exact output PSS: I am able to install Windows 95 ok. -- ******************************************************************************** ** ** ** #include ** ** ** ** Ian Roy E-Mail: iroy@evolving.com (Work) ** ** E-Mail: iroy@roma.diac.com (Home) ** ** ** ** Evolving Systems, Inc. WWW: http://www.diac.com/~roy ** ** ** ** 8000 E. Maplewood Ave. Phone: (303) 802-1148 ** ** ** ** Englewood, CO 80014 Fax: (303) 802-1399 ** ** ** ******************************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 11:44:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA23104 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:44:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA23092 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:44:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id SAA04707; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 18:50:20 +0100 (BST) To: John Clark cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: wu_ftpd port "Service not available" In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 01 Jul 1996 10:48:32 CDT." <2.2.32.19960701110456.009290e0@netview.net> Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 18:50:19 +0100 Message-ID: <4704.836243419@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk John Clark wrote in message ID <2.2.32.19960701110456.009290e0@netview.net>: > Hello, > > I have been trying to use the Washington University FTP daemon. It will not > allow me to login: > It would seem that it should be a simple matter to fix this, but for the > life of me, I don't know how. In the past, I have used wu_ftpd without a > hitch. I think it is the crazy shadow-passwords database system that > FreeBSD uses that is confusing the server??? Are you using the port? The port works fine... > Also, please note the number in parentheses on my server (3): > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > 220 net1.netview.net FTP server (Version wu-2.4(3) Mon Jul 1 10:07:50 EST > 1996) ready. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > The cdrom.com server is a bit different: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > 220 wcarchive.cdrom.com FTP server (Version wu-2.4(17) Sat Jun 22 21:37:48 > PDT 1996) ready. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > What does that mean? A revision number? It's the number of times the program has been compiled. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 11:44:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA23135 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:44:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA23130 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:44:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id TAA04918; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:43:23 +0100 (BST) To: Robert Du Gaue cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: sup down? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 01 Jul 1996 10:39:45 PDT." Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 19:43:22 +0100 Message-ID: <4916.836246602@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Robert Du Gaue wrote in message ID : > Last few times I've tried supping I get : > > bash# tail -f sup.log > SUP 9.26 (4.3 BSD) for file /etc/supfile at Jul 1 10:35:04 > SUP: Can't connect to server for supfilesrv: No route to host > SUP: Will retry in 61 seconds You wouldn't be using sup2.freebsd.org would you? That machine is off the net, and will produce that response ... Check your supfile. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 11:47:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA23301 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from garion.hq.ferg.com (pm1-02.wmbg.widomaker.com [204.17.220.102]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA23278 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:47:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.hq.ferg.com (localhost.hq.ferg.com [127.0.0.1]) by garion.hq.ferg.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA16496; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:47:17 -0400 Message-Id: <199607011847.OAA16496@garion.hq.ferg.com> X-Authentication-Warning: garion.hq.ferg.com: Host localhost.hq.ferg.com didn't use HELO protocol From: Branson Matheson To: Fred Adorno cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fvwm and x-windows In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 01 Jul 1996 10:53:19 PDT." <31D8108F.277F@idt.liberty.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 14:47:16 -0400 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -------- Fred Adorno uttered with conviction: > When I attempt to exec fvwm from the prompt and error message states > "Unable to open display"; This means that you did not specify a display. You can do this by either setting the DISPLAY variable: csh > setenv DISPLAY {hostname}:0.0 sh > DISPLAY={hostname}:0.0 ; export DISPLAY ( replace {hostname} with your display. ) > when attempted while in xterm it states that there's another window > manager open. Are you running another window manager?? like twm for instance.. If you can click on the root window ( area without any other windows ) and get a menu then you are probably running another window manager. You might make yourself an .xinitrc that sets the window manager. somthing like: #!/bin/csh setenv DISPLAY `hostname`:0.0 xsetroot -solid steelblue & fvwm & xterm -sb -sl 1000 -title 'Login' Remeber that the _last_ executable in the script must be started in the forground. When you that program ( in this case xterm ) you will exit from x-windows. So you could put the window manager last if you like, however using an xterm like the above allows one to switch window managers on the fly. ============================================================================= Branson Matheson | Ferguson Enterprises | If Pete and Repeat were System Administrator | W: (804) 874-7795 | sittin on a fence and Pete Unix, Perl, WWW | branson@widomaker.com | fell off, who is left? From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 11:49:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA23458 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:49:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.calweb.com (mail.calweb.com [165.90.138.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA23453; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:49:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from calweb.calweb.com (calweb.calweb.com [165.90.138.3]) by mail.calweb.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA29556; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:45:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web1.calweb.com (rdugaue@web1.calweb.com [165.90.138.10]) by calweb.calweb.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA15246; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 18:45:27 GMT Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:45:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Du Gaue To: Gary Palmer cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sup down? In-Reply-To: <4916.836246602@palmer.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > You wouldn't be using sup2.freebsd.org would you? That machine is off > the net, and will produce that response ... Check your supfile. Sure am: # Main Source Tree src-base release=stable host=sup2.FreeBSD.org hostbase=/home base=/usr prefix=/u sr/src delete old use-rel-suffix src-bin release=stable host=sup2.FreeBSD.org hostbase=/home base=/usr prefix=/us r/src delete old use-rel-suffix -- Should I use sup.freebsd.org? When did this change? must have missed it! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Du Gaue - rdugaue@calweb.com http://www.calweb.com President, CalWeb Internet Services Inc. (916) 641-9320 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 11:52:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA23807 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:52:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from trem.cnt.org.br (desvio.cnt.org.br [200.19.123.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA23789 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:52:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by trem.cnt.org.br (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA11701; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:50:22 -0300 From: ormonde@trem.cnt.org.br (Rodrigo Ormonde) Message-Id: <9607011850.AA11701@trem.cnt.org.br> Subject: Re: wu_ftp port "Service not available" To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:50:21 -0300 (GRNLNDST) Cc: jrclark@netview.net X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hello, > > I have been trying to use the Washington University FTP daemon. It will not > allow me to login: > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > 220 net1.netview.net FTP server (Version wu-2.4(3) Mon Jul 1 10:43:43 EST > 1996) ready. > Name (netview.net:sa): sa > 221 Server shutting down. Goodbye. > 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > It would seem that it should be a simple matter to fix this, but for the > life of me, I don't know how. In the past, I have used wu_ftpd without a > hitch. I think it is the crazy shadow-passwords database system that > FreeBSD uses that is confusing the server??? Well, there is a file called shutdown or .shutdown (or somethink like that. I can't remember right now) that denies any connection to the ftp server. If you remove this file then the wu-ftp will work normally. This file is intended for mantenance only and if it's present, wu-ftpd assumes it is shutting down and denies all ftp conections. > Also, please note the number in parentheses on my server (3): > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > 220 net1.netview.net FTP server (Version wu-2.4(3) Mon Jul 1 10:07:50 EST > 1996) ready. > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The cdrom.com server is a bit different: > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > 220 wcarchive.cdrom.com FTP server (Version wu-2.4(17) Sat Jun 22 21:37:48 > PDT 1996) ready. > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > What does that mean? A revision number? Yes. -- Rodrigo de La Rocque Ormonde Confederacao Nacional do Transporte e-mail: ormonde@cnt.org.br PGP Public key: finger ormonde@cnt.org.br From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 12:00:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA24350 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:00:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA24328 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:00:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ag11565; 1 Jul 96 19:00 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa13372; 1 Jul 96 19:01 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA00939; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:37:50 GMT Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:37:50 GMT Message-Id: <199607011437.OAA00939@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: noud@knot.nl CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (noud@knot.nl) Subject: Re: is there a sys.tar.gz?? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Wow..thanx for the fast reply!! Can't speak for anyone else, but your mail arrived while I was in the middle of an FTP transfer... > I'd like to set it up as a gateway; ppp to the net and ether inside. > Given my disk having 14Mb left, is that anough to compile the kernel?? On my system, the kernel compile directory takes up about 2MB after compilation, plus another 700kB for the installed kernel. > How long will it take to compile the kernel given it's a 486sx, > no co-processor as far as i see, 8Mb?? On my 486DX33 with 8MB of RAM, it used to take just over half an hour. > If 14Mb free space is to less, can i setup an 40Mb disk as swap and > the 100Mb as / ?? Do i need to do things for such a setup? Once you get below 10% free space on a file-system, the performance is supposed to start deteriorating markedly. And of course, only root can write to a file-system with less than 5% free space. 14M will not leave you with much "elbow room". You can probably get a performance improvement by having separate swap partitions on the two disks and exploiting the parallelism of SCSI. (If you don't have SCSI, ignore this). 40MB of swap is quite a lot if you only have 8MB of RAM. Unless you enjoy doing things like surfing with Netscape while waiting for multiple compilations in an Emacs session to complete under X, most of it will never be used. (And if you find that enjoyable on an 8MB machine, you must be an absolute masochist :-) I'd be tempted to put / and 16M of swap on the 40MB disk and /usr on the 100MB disk. You'll need to re-install (and presumably set the 40MB disk up as the first one seen by the machine, assuming there aren't any other OS's to complicate the picture). -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 12:10:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA25085 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:10:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix1.ism.com.br (root@unix1.ism.com.br [200.255.211.35]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA25063 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clpc1.compuland.com.br (clpc1.compuland.com.br [200.255.96.22]) by unix1.ism.com.br (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id QAA16895 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:09:25 -0300 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:09:25 -0300 Message-Id: <199607011909.QAA16895@unix1.ism.com.br> X-Sender: compland@ism.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: compland@ism.com.br (Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica) Subject: Sync clocks Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi: I would like to sync the clocks of three FreeBSD boxes. Is it possible to do that besides running cron scripts ? Thanks! Helio. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 12:12:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA25183 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:12:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.ray.com (gatekeeper.ray.com [138.125.162.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA25160 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:11:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Y_Edwin_Tang@ccmail.ed.ray.com Received: (mailer@localhost) by gatekeeper.ray.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA26039; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:10:52 -0400 Received: from zeus.ed.ray.com by gatekeeper.ray.com; Mon Jul 1 15:07:34 1996 Received: from ccmail.ed.ray.com by ZEUS.ED.RAY.COM (PMDF V4.2-10 #4335) id <01I6K9M5FDIO000JRL@ZEUS.ED.RAY.COM>; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:00:53 EDT Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 14:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: unable to load FreeBSD To: support@cdrom.com Cc: cybertang@worldnet.att.net, questions@freebsd.com Message-id: <01I6K9M9MHC6000JRL@ZEUS.ED.RAY.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk After boot from the boot disk and selected CDROM as the boot medium, a message indicates that I do not have a CDROM. I called in for help and was suggested to ensure the CDROM is not on the soundboard and is configured as slave. The CDROM is connected to the mother board IDE port, and is defaulted as a slave. So what else can I do?? Also, what driver should I use? The CDROM is an Acer 8X. I do have the driver for it. I am using NT workstations and trying to have dual boot capability to also run BSD. I'd appreciate your quick response to my home email cybertang@worldnet.att.net thanks, Ed Tang From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 12:13:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA25359 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:13:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from garion.hq.ferg.com (pm1-02.wmbg.widomaker.com [204.17.220.102]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA25330; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:13:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.hq.ferg.com (localhost.hq.ferg.com [127.0.0.1]) by garion.hq.ferg.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA16816; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:12:12 -0400 Message-Id: <199607011912.PAA16816@garion.hq.ferg.com> X-Authentication-Warning: garion.hq.ferg.com: Host localhost.hq.ferg.com didn't use HELO protocol From: Branson Matheson To: Haytham Algyndy cc: questions@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netscape Colours trouble In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 Jul 1996 04:13:55 +1000." <199607011813.EAA21104@s4.elec.uq.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 15:12:11 -0400 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -------- Haytham Algyndy uttered with conviction: > Hi > > I tried many times to install different versions of N etscape, But I > seem to face the same problem, of switching the colours once the > cursor gets out of the main frame. Actually it's because netscape is trying to take more colors than you have available for your display, so it uses an alternate color map. You can ... - Deal with it ;-) - Buy a better graphics card and run in true-color mode. - Not use so many colors on your current display .. in .. say xearth or somthing like that. -branson ============================================================================= Branson Matheson | Ferguson Enterprises | If Pete and Repeat were System Administrator | W: (804) 874-7795 | sittin on a fence and Pete Unix, Perl, WWW | branson@widomaker.com | fell off, who is left? From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 12:19:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA25826 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:19:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix1.ism.com.br (unix1.ism.com.br [200.255.211.35]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA25817 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clpc1.compuland.com.br (clpc1.compuland.com.br [200.255.96.22]) by unix1.ism.com.br (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id QAA17551 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:18:54 -0300 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:18:54 -0300 Message-Id: <199607011918.QAA17551@unix1.ism.com.br> X-Sender: compland@ism.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: compland@ism.com.br (Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica) Subject: Pop Timeout Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi: Sometimes, while one user is trying to get it's email, I got the following error on the console (of the mail server): -ERR POP TIMEOUT . What cause this ? The local network is lightly loaded. Thanks! Helio. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 12:24:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA26310 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:24:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Rigel.orionsys.com (root@rigel.orionsys.com [205.148.224.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA26305 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:24:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dbabler@localhost) by Rigel.orionsys.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id MAA02859; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:24:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:24:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Babler To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Constructive snooping Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Okay, I'm certain there's an obvious, devious and simple solution to this, but I can't seem to find it. I've enabled the snoop pseudo-device and have had no trouble running watch to monitor users if necessary. The problem is being able to do that *usefully*. Problem number 1 is that the account I'd be doing monitoring from is, of course, visible in any user list, so they'd know they weren't alone. So if somebody doing something they shouldn't is bright enough to just type 'w', they'd see 'watch ttyxxx' and would know something's up. Now, of course I could pipe watch's output to a file and put it in the background and use tail -f to monitor it... except then if the bad guy is bright enough (and the only reason for me to be snooping is to see what a UNIX cracker is doing to my system) to just type 'ps a' occasionally, they'd still see the watch program. There seems to be all sorts of ways to fool the user list, but not the process list. Short of removing the 'ps' command from the users, is there anyway I can do this? -Dave From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 12:41:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA29012 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:41:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mik.uky.edu (madonna.mik.uky.edu [128.163.117.230]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA28963 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:41:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nx55.mik.uky.edu by mik.uky.edu (NX5.67e/NX3.0M) id AA01746; Mon, 1 Jul 96 15:41:05 -0400 Received: by nx55.mik.uky.edu (NX5.67e/NX3.0X) id AA07759; Mon, 1 Jul 96 15:34:03 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:34:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Arasu Subramaniam To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Installation problem Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi. I'm trying to install FreeBSD 2.0 on my system and can't get very far. I made the boot disks and when I try to boot from the boot disk I created, it just keeps rebooting over and over again. Any ideas? I have a Zeos Pantera 486DX2-66, 2 IDE hard drives and a Mitsumi CD-ROM drive, no SCSI devices, Diamond Speedstar Pro Video (Cirrus Logic 543x), 16MB of RAM. Thank you. Arasu Subramaniam Internet e-mail: arasu@mik.uky.edu Compuserve: 74641,644 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 12:49:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA00505 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00499 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-7.ime.net [206.231.148.136]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA26586 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:49:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31D82BF1.298C@ime.net> Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 15:50:09 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: src tree owners Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is it safe to chown the src tree so one can use it without having to be su. Is there a `proper` way for this? Thanks -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 12:55:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA01134 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:55:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA01124 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:55:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (kelly@emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA13251; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:54:58 GMT Message-Id: <199607011954.TAA13251@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA062950946; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:55:46 -0600 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:55:46 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: branson@widomaker.com Cc: fadorn19@idt.liberty.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199607011847.OAA16496@garion.hq.ferg.com> (message from Branson Matheson on Mon, 01 Jul 1996 14:47:16 -0400) Subject: Re: fvwm and x-windows Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Branson" == Branson Matheson writes: Branson> csh > setenv DISPLAY {hostname}:0.0 Branson> sh > DISPLAY={hostname}:0.0 ; export DISPLAY Branson> ( replace {hostname} with your display. ) Or not. If you're actually logged on {hostname}, then you *want* the DISPLAY to be just :0.0 and NOT {hostname}:0.0. A display of :0.0 means use the local X server serving the first display, through a local Unix socket in /tmp/.X11-unix/X0. This is the fastest way to access a display. In second place is a DISPLAY of localhost:0.0, which uses the loopback interface lo0. In last place is a DISPLAY of {hostname}:0.0, which uses the network interface. Homework question: what's a *fourth* way to access a display (on those displays that are configured for it)? Branson> You might make yourself an .xinitrc that sets the window Branson> manager. somthing like: Branson> #!/bin/csh Branson> setenv DISPLAY `hostname`:0.0 Yes, definitely wrong. When xinit is run, the DISPLAY environment varialbe should already be set ... and set *correctly*. On FreeBSD, it isn't so bad. But on HP/UX, playing xkobo with display set to "{hostname}:0.0" is like molasses in January. But with it set to ":0.0" it just screams! -- sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 13:02:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA02635 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:02:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA02609 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:02:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id NAA01194 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:02:09 -0700 Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id ac21436; 1 Jul 96 21:00 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa13205; 1 Jul 96 19:00 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA00951; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:44:12 GMT Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:44:12 GMT Message-Id: <199607011444.OAA00951@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: archie@whistle.com CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199606302353.QAA27875@bubba.whistle.com> (message from Archie Cobbs on Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:53:21 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: strtouq() Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Archie Cobbs writes: > > Is this function strtouq() completely broken or am I doing something dumb ? [snip] > It produces this output... [more snip] > Seems like it can't handle any value higher than 2^32 ? This happens > on both 2.1 and -current. It's a known bug (in gcc if I remember rightly). -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 13:07:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA03497 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:07:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03302 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:05:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id VAA05299; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:02:39 +0100 (BST) To: Robert Du Gaue cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: sup down? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 01 Jul 1996 11:45:27 PDT." Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 21:02:39 +0100 Message-ID: <5297.836251359@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Robert Du Gaue wrote in message ID : > Should I use sup.freebsd.org? When did this change? must have missed it! Probably. Or sup5.freebsd.org. Paul Trania (the admin of sup2) changed jobs and has yet to find a new site for sup2. It was announced, but only to freebsd-hubs (unfortunately). It must have been a couple of weeks ago. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 13:10:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA03920 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:10:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA03903 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA10672; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:10:24 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:10:24 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9607012010.AA10672@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: James Raynard Cc: lray@aurora.liunet.edu, QUESTIONS@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: KERBEROS? In-Reply-To: <199606252046.UAA02186@jraynard.demon.co.uk> References: <96062509263438@aurora.liunet.edu> <199606252046.UAA02186@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: >[someone else said:] >> I'm trying to install the server version of Kerberos5-beta6 on my FreeBSD >> 2.1.0 machine. The documentation clearly states that a bug in the sed command > This is already available in the FreeBSD distribution as 'eBones' - > there's even a handbook entry on how to set it up. No, it is not. Read the message carefully. `lray' specifically said `Kerberos 5'. eBones is Kerberos 4. There is not now, and probably never will be, a free implementation of Kerberos 5 available outside the US and Canada. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 13:19:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA04789 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA04783 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:19:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA10857; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:19:03 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:19:03 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9607012019.AA10857@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: "Eric J. Schwertfeger" Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: tickadj questions In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: > 1) new_tick: as I understand it, this tells the system how many > microseconds should pass before it ticks the hz counter. Is this correct? > This gives the ability to correct to 100PPM, or about 8 seconds. No. It tells the system how many microseconds to add to the clock variable (called `time') when a timer tick occurs. > 2) new_tickadj: I'm not sure I understand this one. It obviously isn't > simply added to tick, otherwise there would be no point. I suspect that > it is added to the tick count once a second, for adjustments down to 1PPM. No. `tickadj' is the parameter which controls how fast the adjtime(2) system call is allowed to slew the clock. When adjusting in a negative direction, the clock code subtracts `tickadj' from `tick' before adding it to `time' on each clock tick. > 3) Does FreeBSD read or write the CMOS clock while running? I know with > SunOS 4.0, I have to turn this off. Actually, no. In SunOS 4.0, the operating system assumes that the CMOS clock is more accurate than the `time' variable and slaves the latter to the former (in a particularly ham-handed way). In FreeBSD, we are under no such delusions. However, when you reboot or halt the system under the control of reboot(2), the current value of `time' is written back into the CMOS clock (potentially with a timezone adjustment); there is a sysctl(8) MIB variable to disable this behavior. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 13:23:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA05302 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:23:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cais.cais.com (cais.com [199.0.216.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA05269 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:22:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from babel (babel.cais.com [204.157.31.49]) by cais.cais.com (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA23804; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:22:38 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:20:49 +0000 () From: "Robert F. Abel" To: questions@FreeBSD.org cc: babel@cais.com Subject: Get mosaic-2.7b4.tgz working Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-498475948-836238049=:250" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-498475948-836238049=:250 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can not get mosaic-2.7b4.tgz working. How do I install a package from: wcarchive.cdrom.com:/16/FreeBSD/packages-current/All My failing attempt goes like this: Download and unpacked mosaic from above location. Things looked normal. . . . program files and directories were created. When I entered "Mosaic", the error I recieved was . . . . can"t find shared libraries "libpng.so.0.88" Question. Were can I find the shared library ? How do I complete the install ? Thanks in advance Bob Abel babel@cais.com --0-498475948-836238049=:250 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name="tech_sup.mos27" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: DQpDYW4gbm90IGdldCBtb3NhaWMtMi43YjQudGd6IHdvcmtpbmcuDQoNCkhv dyBkbyBJIGluc3RhbGwgYSBwYWNrYWdlIGZyb206DQp3Y2FyY2hpdmUuY2Ry b20uY29tOi8xNi9GcmVlQlNEL3BhY2thZ2VzLWN1cnJlbnQvQWxsDQoNCg0K TXkgZmFpbGluZyBhdHRlbXB0IGdvZXMgbGlrZSB0aGlzOg0KDQpEb3dubG9h ZCBhbmQgdW5wYWNrZWQgbW9zYWljIGZyb20gYWJvdmUgbG9jYXRpb24uDQoN ClRoaW5ncyBsb29rZWQgbm9ybWFsLiAuIC4gLiBwcm9ncmFtIGZpbGVzIGFu ZCBkaXJlY3RvcmllcyB3ZXJlIGNyZWF0ZWQuICANCg0KV2hlbiBJIGVudGVy ZWQgIk1vc2FpYyIsICB0aGUgZXJyb3IgSSByZWNpZXZlZCB3YXMgLiAuIC4g LiANCg0KY2FuInQgZmluZCBzaGFyZWQgbGlicmFyaWVzICJsaWJwbmcuc28u MC44OCINCg0KDQoNClF1ZXN0aW9uLg0KDQpXZXJlIGNhbiBJIGZpbmQgdGhl IHNoYXJlZCBsaWJyYXJ5ID8NCg0KSG93IGRvIEkgY29tcGxldGUgdGhlIGlu c3RhbGwgPw0KDQoNCg0KVGhhbmtzIGluIGFkdmFuY2UgDQoNCg0KQm9iIEFi ZWwNCmJhYmVsQGNhaXMuY29tDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg== --0-498475948-836238049=:250-- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 13:27:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA05695 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA05660 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:27:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ab18857; 1 Jul 96 20:27 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa13415; 1 Jul 96 19:01 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA00915; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:07:03 GMT Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:07:03 GMT Message-Id: <199607011407.OAA00915@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: jbrann@panix.com CC: JSINNOTT@pomona.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199607010241.WAA09983@jbrann.dialup.access.net> (message from John Brann on Sun, 30 Jun 1996 22:41:47 -2800 (EDT)) Subject: Re: Shutdown MSGS Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Is this sequence of numbers (the number of blocks that still need to be flushed) > > - is this sequence SUPPOSED to countdown - for instance - my machine says > > something like syncing disks... 6 6 6 6 6 > > then it shuts down. > > Normally, it does. I have seen repeated digits, like this. If your > system is happy when it reboots, then there wasn't a problem. Hmm. A couple of weeks ago, I started getting messages like syncing disks... 8 6 4 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3, giving up and assumed it was a bug in the VM code (I had -current on this disk). Two days later the disk died in a flurry of medium errors. 8-( Obviously it had started developing bad sectors and the first one happened to be in the swap partition. So if you ever see this message, start backing up immediately! -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 13:33:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA06569 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:33:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from GPO.iol.ie (root@GPO.iol.ie [194.125.2.239]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA06499 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:32:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omalleyp.iol.ie (omalleyp.iol.ie [194.125.3.21]) by GPO.iol.ie Sendmail(v8.7.5) with SMTP id VAA01955 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:32:09 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <31D8359D.794BDF32@iol.ie> Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 21:31:25 +0100 From: "Paul O' Malley" Organization: whats an organisation ? X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-960501-SNAP i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: May I please download a copy of biglogo.gif and us it on a simple web site X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I would like to use the biglogo.gif (& or littlelogo.gif) on my website and store it on the server used to provide my website as I think it would make the link to www.freebsd.org more inviting. If there is any other/more suitable logo that you would prefer me to use please write me about it. Cheers Paul O' Malley From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 14:09:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA11991 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA11923 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:08:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from synwork.com (flaq@synwork.com [199.3.234.4]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id OAA01540 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:08:39 -0700 Received: from localhost (flaq@localhost) by synwork.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA00487 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:07:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:07:07 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike K." To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Netscape Error Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I know there is an environment variable that needs to be set in .cshrc dealing with the XKeysymDB, but I can't remember what it is and my .cshrc gotten trashed by an installation script. Can someone please refresh my memory? TIA ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Syn-Work Media, Inc. | WWW Development & Hosting | Life Safety http://www.synwork.com | Systems Integration | CCTV mike@synwork.com | Voice/Data/Fiber | Access Control Flaq on IRC | Dukane Distributor | BICSI/RCDD ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 14:25:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA13919 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Kryten.nina.com (dyn054-gnv.51.fdt.net [205.229.51.55]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA13861 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:24:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (frankd@localhost) by Kryten.nina.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA12931; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:21:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: Kryten.nina.com: frankd owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:21:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Frank Seltzer X-Sender: frankd@Kryten.nina.com To: Dave Babler cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Constructive snooping In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, Dave Babler wrote: > Okay, I'm certain there's an obvious, devious and simple solution to > this, but I can't seem to find it. > > I've enabled the snoop pseudo-device and have had no trouble running watch > to monitor users if necessary. The problem is being able to do that > *usefully*. Problem number 1 is that the account I'd be doing monitoring > from is, of course, visible in any user list, so they'd know they weren't > alone. So if somebody doing something they shouldn't is bright enough to > just type 'w', they'd see 'watch ttyxxx' and would know something's up. > Now, of course I could pipe watch's output to a file and put it in the > background and use tail -f to monitor it... except then if the bad guy is > bright enough (and the only reason for me to be snooping is to see what a > UNIX cracker is doing to my system) to just type 'ps a' occasionally, > they'd still see the watch program. There seems to be all sorts of ways to > fool the user list, but not the process list. Short of removing the 'ps' > command from the users, is there anyway I can do this? > > -Dave > Alias watch to some other innocent sounding name. Start it without a tty on the command line and it will start and prompt you for a tty port to watch. Frank -- Only in America can a homeless veteran sleep in a cardboard box while a draft dodger sleeps in the White House. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 14:32:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA15373 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:32:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA15333 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:32:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (kelly@emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA13871; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:32:04 GMT Message-Id: <199607012132.VAA13871@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA141576770; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:32:50 -0600 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:32:50 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: fqueries@jraynard.demon.co.uk Cc: jbrann@panix.com, JSINNOTT@pomona.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607011407.OAA00915@jraynard.demon.co.uk> (message from James Raynard on Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:07:03 GMT) Subject: Re: Shutdown MSGS Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "James" == James Raynard writes: James> Obviously it had started developing bad sectors and the James> first one happened to be in the swap partition. So if you James> ever see this message, start backing up immediately! No! Start backing up now! Seriously, any installation without a backup procedure is just asking for it. The standard Unix backup software (dump, restore) is one way to get started. Amanda is another. BRU is yet another. Even Micro$oft Windoze comes with a backup program; the fact that they expect you to backup to a hundred or so floppies is absurd. But, that's the PC market! -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 14:52:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA17864 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:52:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA17844 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:52:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id WAA05775; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 22:50:31 +0100 (BST) To: compland@ism.com.br (Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica) cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Sync clocks In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 01 Jul 1996 16:09:25 -0300." <199607011909.QAA16895@unix1.ism.com.br> Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 22:50:31 +0100 Message-ID: <5773.836257831@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica wrote in message ID <199607011909.QAA16895@unix1.ism.com.br>: > Hi: > > I would like to sync the clocks of three FreeBSD boxes. Is it possible > to do that besides running cron scripts ? man xntpd Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 15:06:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA19961 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:06:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA19948 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:06:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA06681; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:05:42 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607012205.PAA06681@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: java script and security violation message To: plm@xs4all.nl (Peter Mutsaers) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:05:42 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, terry@lambert.org In-Reply-To: <873f3fjeu4.fsf@plm.xs4all.nl> from "Peter Mutsaers" at Jun 29, 96 08:37:23 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >> On Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:27:31 -0700 (MST), Terry Lambert > >> said: > > TL> This is the kind of bug that was fixed in Netscape 3.0b3 and > TL> 3.0b4 (at the same time, these "sparse space" IPC facilities > TL> were what enabled the JDK to operate, so unless you run 3.0b2, > TL> you can't run the JDK). > > Is it expected that a next release of Netscape still has the security > fixes, but also that the JDK will work again? It's expected that since Netscape Inc. did not endorse Sun's WebNFS, Sun will twiddle JAVA and the JDK to "punish" Netscape for screwing over their business plans. At least, this is my personal expectation. > I really want to program Java, but don't want to run a netscape with > security holes; also 3.0b2 is not available anywhere anymore. Amancio Hasty is known to have b2. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 15:10:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA20375 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (root@gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA20367 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:10:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gallup.cia-g.com (gallup.cia-g.com [206.206.162.10]) by gallup.cia-g.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA14357; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:10:01 -0600 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:10:01 -0600 (MDT) From: Joel Yancey To: Dave Babler cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Constructive snooping In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Well, is what i did, is renamed the watch program to another program, say "getty_ps" which is an actualy program, but not for FreeBSD (it's for linux, FreeBSD doesnt need it because FBSD is smarter) and ran it that way. then it doesnt show up as watch, it shows up a getty_ps which isnt something out of the ordinary. and so you dont see a "getty_ps ttyp1" or what ever, just type getty_ps and it'll ask you for the tty device. =) LDead.Deadned.com Joel yancey On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, Dave Babler wrote: > Okay, I'm certain there's an obvious, devious and simple solution to > this, but I can't seem to find it. > > I've enabled the snoop pseudo-device and have had no trouble running watch > to monitor users if necessary. The problem is being able to do that > *usefully*. Problem number 1 is that the account I'd be doing monitoring > from is, of course, visible in any user list, so they'd know they weren't > alone. So if somebody doing something they shouldn't is bright enough to > just type 'w', they'd see 'watch ttyxxx' and would know something's up. > Now, of course I could pipe watch's output to a file and put it in the > background and use tail -f to monitor it... except then if the bad guy is > bright enough (and the only reason for me to be snooping is to see what a > UNIX cracker is doing to my system) to just type 'ps a' occasionally, > they'd still see the watch program. There seems to be all sorts of ways to > fool the user list, but not the process list. Short of removing the 'ps' > command from the users, is there anyway I can do this? > > -Dave > From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 15:11:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA20511 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:11:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA20485 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:11:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA06700; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:09:51 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607012209.PAA06700@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: rlogin as root refused To: mc7953@mclink.it (Marco Masotti) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:09:51 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, mc7953@mclink.it In-Reply-To: <31D53AD3.41C67EA6@mclink.it> from "Marco Masotti" at Jun 29, 96 04:16:51 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm getting problems doing rlogin as root, always when towards FreeBSD > machines. > > I can do rsh generic commands and rcp, but not rlogin. > > I set a "+" in the ~root/.rhosts file, but this doesn't suffice. It is *dangerous* to do this. You want to specify particular machines and users, if you allow this at all. > Nevertheless, when doing rsh|rlogin , I get: > > # rsh > Password: > root login refused on this terminal. > login: look at /etc/ttys. Note the word "network" instead of the word "secure". Man ttys. The pty's do not allow root login. This is a security option which you *can* turn off. We advise against it strongly (so strongly, that by default we don't allow it, and you have to turn it off). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 15:18:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA21645 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:18:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from guarany.cpd.unb.br (guarany.cpd.unb.br [164.41.2.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA21627 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:18:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from antares.linf.unb.br by guarany.cpd.unb.br (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA153788; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:15:18 -0300 Received: from pegasus by antares.linf.unb.br (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02461; Mon, 1 Jul 96 19:20:27 WST Received: by pegasus (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01203; Mon, 1 Jul 96 19:21:11 WST Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:21:10 -0400 (WST) From: Alex Antao To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Netware & Free Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Where can I find a program that enable mount a directory on Unix for Netware 4.1 clients pc's ? Thanks, --- _________________________________ _________________________ / Alex Carlos Braga Antao \ /_ __ \ | UnB - Universidade de Brasilia | // ...on IRC | | | // ____ | | e-mail : e9203125@linf.unb.br | // / _/________ | | http://www.linf.unb.br/~e9203125 | /____ /_/ / /) (_) / | \_________________________________/ \_______It's me !_________/ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 15:18:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA21664 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:18:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA21658 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA06738; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:16:36 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607012216.PAA06738@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Dual-booting FreeBSD and Windows95??? To: brandon@tombstone.sunrem.com (Brandon Gillespie) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:16:36 -0700 (MST) Cc: claysmith@upstate.net, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Brandon Gillespie" at Jun 30, 96 02:12:47 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > My i486, 8mb IBM PS/1 computer is equiped with a 850mb, software > > overlay-dependent drive and a 85mb drive. > > If the IBM PS/1 is a microchannel board you may have some serious > problems getting FreeBSD working (last I checked Microchannel is not > supported, has this changed?). The SC/1 is an ISA machine. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 15:20:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA22055 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from guarany.cpd.unb.br (guarany.cpd.unb.br [164.41.2.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA22044 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:20:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from antares.linf.unb.br by guarany.cpd.unb.br (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA118553; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:17:05 -0300 Received: from pegasus by antares.linf.unb.br (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02489; Mon, 1 Jul 96 19:22:14 WST Received: by pegasus (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01207; Mon, 1 Jul 96 19:22:58 WST Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:22:56 -0400 (WST) From: Alex Antao To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Props and owlplace Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Where are the files : props and owlplace (or something similar) that are responsible for editing the workplace properties and save properties respectively on olvwm (openwin) ? Thanks, --- _________________________________ _________________________ / Alex Carlos Braga Antao \ /_ __ \ | UnB - Universidade de Brasilia | // ...on IRC | | | // ____ | | e-mail : e9203125@linf.unb.br | // / _/________ | | http://www.linf.unb.br/~e9203125 | /____ /_/ / /) (_) / | \_________________________________/ \_______It's me !_________/ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 16:29:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA27923 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:29:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail (mail.bcpl.lib.md.us [204.255.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA27917 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:29:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp93.bcpl.lib.md.us by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA11333; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:29:51 +0500 Received: by ppp93.bcpl.lib.md.us with Microsoft Mail id <01BB6783.C00D62A0@ppp93.bcpl.lib.md.us>; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:30:24 -0400 Message-Id: <01BB6783.C00D62A0@ppp93.bcpl.lib.md.us> From: Anil John To: Anil John , "'John Brann'" Cc: freeq Subject: RE: Missing File - libc.s0.3.0 - help! Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:30:23 -0400 Encoding: 18 TEXT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk John Brann[SMTP:jbrann@panix.com] wrote: >> >> But after I installed the fvwm,xfm & xpm packages using pkg_add, I could >> not get fvwm window manager running. I got a message that says: >> >> ld.so: fvwm: Can't find shared library "libc.so.3.0' >> >I suspect you are running 2.1 Release, but that the version of fvwm was >ported / packaged later than that. Go back to the package which was >synchronized with 2.1 and you shouldn't have any trouble. Absolutely right... I was running fvwm from the 2.2 snap CD. I fixed that (went and got the fvwm from the 2.1R CD), but I still get a message: fvwm: can't open display. Anil From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 16:37:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA29982 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:37:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail (mail.bcpl.lib.md.us [204.255.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA29924 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp93.bcpl.lib.md.us by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA12084; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:37:31 +0500 Received: by ppp93.bcpl.lib.md.us with Microsoft Mail id <01BB6784.D22B07C0@ppp93.bcpl.lib.md.us>; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:38:04 -0400 Message-Id: <01BB6784.D22B07C0@ppp93.bcpl.lib.md.us> From: Anil John To: "'Hr.Ladavac'" Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: Missing File - libc.s0.3.0 - help! Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:38:03 -0400 Encoding: 19 TEXT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hr.Ladavac[SMTP:lada@ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at] wrote: >> >> fvwm: can't open display... > >setting DISPLAY environment variable to :0. somewhere in the script >prior to starting fvwm might help :) > >I believe it belongs into xsession script (if you use xdm) or .xinitrc >if you use startx/xstart scripts. > I am new to UNIX so please bear with me... I have no problems with running xdm or startx. The 'twm' window manager comes up just fine. My question is how do you make xdm or startx start the 'fvwm' window manager and in which directory can I find the xsession script? Also what is the proper way of setting the DISPLAY enviornment variable? Anil From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 16:52:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA01671 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:52:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from central.picker.com (central.picker.com [144.54.31.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA01660 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:52:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by central.picker.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0uascJ-0004riC; Mon, 1 Jul 96 19:42 EDT Received: from elmer.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14321; Mon, 1 Jul 96 19:42:18 EDT Received: by elmer.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA28013; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:43:53 -0400 From: rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper) Message-Id: <199607012343.TAA28013@elmer.picker.com> Subject: Re: Netscape Error To: flaq@synwork.com (Mike K.) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:43:52 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Mike K." at Jul 1, 96 04:07:07 pm Reply-To: rhh@ct.picker.com Organization: Picker International, CT Division X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP3 *ALPHA*] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Mike K.: >I know there is an environment variable that needs to be set in .cshrc >dealing with the XKeysymDB, but I can't remember what it is and my .cshrc >gotten trashed by an installation script. Can someone please refresh my >memory? TIA Sure! : setenv XKEYSYMDB /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XKeysymDB and while you're at it, seems like I needed this for Netscape at some point: setenv XNLSPATH /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/nls which comes with the Netscape package. Randall Hopper rhh@ct.picker.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 17:08:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA02977 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:08:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA02965 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:08:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id ae06330; 2 Jul 96 1:08 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa01603; 2 Jul 96 0:46 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA03416; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 22:58:15 GMT Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 22:58:15 GMT Message-Id: <199607012258.WAA03416@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov CC: jbrann@panix.com, JSINNOTT@pomona.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199607012132.VAA13871@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> (message from Sean Kelly on Mon, 1 Jul 1996 15:32:50 -0600) Subject: Re: Shutdown MSGS Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > James> Obviously it had started developing bad sectors and the > James> first one happened to be in the swap partition. So if you > James> ever see this message, start backing up immediately! > > No! Start backing up now! All right, all right, I knew I should have added the words "if you haven't already done so" :-) > Seriously, any installation without a > backup procedure is just asking for it. The standard Unix backup > software (dump, restore) is one way to get started. Amanda is > another. BRU is yet another. Agreed. Actually, my backup was a 420MB IDE drive, of which FreeBSD can only see 327MB (for reasons which no-one has been able to convincingly explain to me) - this is just big enough to hold backups of my CVS tree and home directory and a minimal FreeBSD install, but not enough to do any work :-( > Even Micro$oft Windoze comes with a backup program; the fact that they > expect you to backup to a hundred or so floppies is absurd. But, > that's the PC market! Not that absurd for those of us who can't afford several hundred pounds for a tape drive - in fact I'm backing up my ex-backup drive as I speak! -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 17:10:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA03131 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA03091 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:09:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id ab06602; 2 Jul 96 1:09 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa01584; 2 Jul 96 0:46 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA03565; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 23:34:41 GMT Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 23:34:41 GMT Message-Id: <199607012334.XAA03565@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: bill@twwells.com CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <4r8u4m$9k5@twwells.com> (bill@twwells.com) Subject: Re: a talkd/write improvement I made Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > : > That doesn't resolve the problem. The usual problem is people > : > protecting their home directories. Then, I can't tell if they > : > have a .talkrc. > : > : Actually, you can if you check errno (if it doesn't exist, you get > : ENOENT, if it exists but you don't have permission, you get EACCESS). > > Actually, that's total BS. If the directory does not have > permissions are, e.g., 700, you can't check it _at all_. Actually I made a mistake in my test program (I thought at the time it seemed rather strange...) so this proposal can now be put to sleep. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 17:32:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA04824 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:32:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA04801 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:31:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA07069; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:29:31 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607020029.RAA07069@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Dual-booting FreeBSD and Windows95??? To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:29:31 -0700 (MST) Cc: brandon@tombstone.sunrem.com, claysmith@upstate.net, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607012216.PAA06738@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at Jul 1, 96 03:16:36 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > My i486, 8mb IBM PS/1 computer is equiped with a 850mb, software > > > overlay-dependent drive and a 85mb drive. > > > > If the IBM PS/1 is a microchannel board you may have some serious > > problems getting FreeBSD working (last I checked Microchannel is not > > supported, has this changed?). > > The SC/1 is an ISA machine. Duh. I typed "PC/1" and replaced the wrong character. The PS/1 is an ISA machine. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 17:33:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA04975 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:33:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mole.mole.org (marmot.mole.org [204.216.57.191]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA04969 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:33:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mole.mole.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA18548; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 00:33:14 GMT Received: from meerkat.mole.org(206.197.192.110) by mole.mole.org via smap (V1.3) id sma018546; Tue Jul 2 00:33:07 1996 Received: (from mrm@localhost) by meerkat.mole.org (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA04441; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:33:07 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:33:07 -0700 From: "M.R.Murphy" Message-Id: <199607020033.RAA04441@meerkat.mole.org> To: branson@widomaker.com, fadorn19@idt.liberty.com Subject: Re: fvwm and x-windows Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > like, however using an xterm like the above allows one to switch > window managers on the fly. Last time I looked fvwm allows one to switch window managers on the fly, too. I just use twm now, though. I'm crusty. (And, if you change .twmrc from the somewhat clumsy default, twm is quite convenient to use.) -- Mike Murphy mrm@Mole.ORG +1 619 598 5874 Better is the enemy of Good From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 17:34:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA05013 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:34:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wedge.its.utas.edu.au (cp_nairn@wedge.its.utas.edu.au [131.217.10.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA05003 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:34:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cp_nairn@localhost) by wedge.its.utas.edu.au (8.7.1/8.6.6) id KAA26186; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 10:33:39 +1000 (EST) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 10:33:38 +1000 (EST) From: Carey Nairn X-Sender: cp_nairn@wedge.its.utas.edu.au To: Haytham Algyndy cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Netscape Colours trouble In-Reply-To: <199607011813.EAA21104@s4.elec.uq.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jul 1996, Haytham Algyndy wrote: > Hi > > I tried many times to install different versions of Netscape, > But I seem to face the same problem, of switching the colours > once the cursor gets out of the main frame. > > I suspect it has to do with the application defaults > but I don't know how to go about it. > > Thanks for your help > Haytham > -- > ________________________________________________________________________ > Haytham Abd-Alsalam Algyndy > Dept. of Elec. and Comp. Eng. > The UNIVERSITY of QUEENSLAND > Brisbane 4072, Queensland > Australia > haytham@elec.uq.edu.au > tel. 61 - 07 - 365 356 4 (AU) > Fax. 61 - 07 - 365 499 9 > ________________________________________________________________________ > sounds like netscape is running with a private colourmap (i.e. via netscape -install). If you are not using the -install switch when you start netscape and this is happening, try running it with netscape -no-install to use the default colourmap. cheers, Carey ========================================================================= Carey Nairn ! email : Carey.Nairn@its.utas.edu.au Networks and Communications ! phone : (002) 20 7419 Information Technology Services ! fax : (002) 20 7898 University of Tasmania. ! ========================================================================= From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 17:49:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA05784 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:49:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rc.trw.com (picard.rc.trw.com [129.193.136.200]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA05778 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:49:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.rc.trw.com by rc.trw.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20042; Mon, 1 Jul 96 17:48:54 PDT Message-Id: Date: 1 Jul 1996 17:44:37 U From: "Trung Lam" Subject: Installing Questions. To: "questions" , "support" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP-QM 3.0.2 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk 7/1/96 4:40 PM Dear Sir/Madam, Recently, I bought a FreeBSD 2.1.0 software from Walnut Creek CDROM and I have problem in the installation. The following is an installing problem that I have: After I changed from C drive to CDROM drive, I typed "view" to executed the software and a "FreeBSD 2.1.0 Directories" displays. Then, I selected "install.bat" from this FreeBSD menu and press "Enter", I receive an error message is "EMM386: unrecoverable privileged operation error #00 - press Enter to reboot". I reboot my computer and make a FreeBSD 2.1.0 installation boot floppy by selected "makeflp.bat" from the FreeBSD menu and I got a FreeBSD boot floppy. I reboot my computer with a FreeBSD 2.1.0 installation boot floppy and it took a while to boot up. After it boot up, an installing window displayed and I selected "Custom" to installed. After I selected "Custom", another window displayed and asked which hard drive I would like to install the FreeBSD 2.1.0, "wd0" or "wd1" ? I selected "wd1", since I have two hard drive in my computer (C drive and D drive). My C drive is 1.2G and D drive is 1.6G. The D drive is empty, it doesn't have any file at all, since I just install this hard drive to run the UNIX Operating System FreeBSD 2.1.0. This hard drive also format and partition with DOS. After, I selected "wd1" and press "Enter" , nothing happen, the software go back to the installing menu and asking the same question that I had answer before. I call Mike in the technical support (phone number (510) 603 - 1234) and told him what problem that I had, He told me that may be the FreeBSD software doesn't recognize the D drive, since it is over 1G. He also told me that there is a trick way that can solve this kind of problem and he doesn't know how to do it. So, He told me to send an email to your attention. Would you please tell me how to solve this problem ? Please give me your response as soon as you can, since I have home work assignment due shortly. Thank you very much for your help and cooperation. By the way, I have "Window 95" in my computer. Again, thank you very much for your help. I am looking forward to your response. P.S. Contact information (619) 538 - 0717 (Home Phone) (619) 592 - 3173 (Work Phone) trung_lam@rc.trw.com (email @ work) tlam@cts.com (email @ home) Special Announcement From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 17:57:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA06212 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:57:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from schizo.cdsnet.net (schizo.cdsnet.net [204.118.244.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA06207 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:57:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (mrcpu@localhost) by schizo.cdsnet.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA05087; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:58:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:58:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Jaye Mathisen To: "R. Chan" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. BSDI? In-Reply-To: <31cfefb3.2175336@mailhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hah. Moving from FreeBSD to BSD/OS is not a step towards more support. On Tue, 25 Jun 1996, R. Chan wrote: > Hi, > > We are running freebsd from the walnut creek cd. We would like to move > to an O/S with more support such as BSDI or something else such as > SCO. In any case, does anyone know what the differences are between > freebsd and BSDI's BSD/OS? Can we run all the freebsd packages that > came with the walnut creek cd on a BSDI system? > > Thanks. > From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 18:06:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA06914 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 18:06:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail (mail.bcpl.lib.md.us [204.255.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA06909; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 18:06:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp93.bcpl.lib.md.us (ppp54.bcpl.lib.md.us) by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA21278; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:07:18 +0500 Received: by ppp93.bcpl.lib.md.us with Microsoft Mail id <01BB6791.5C34BEA0@ppp93.bcpl.lib.md.us>; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:07:49 -0400 Message-Id: <01BB6791.5C34BEA0@ppp93.bcpl.lib.md.us> From: Anil John To: "'Gary Palmer'" Cc: "'FreeBSD Questions'" Subject: RE: Missing File - libc.s0.3.0 - help! Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:07:48 -0400 Encoding: 21 TEXT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gary Palmer[SMTP:gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG] wrote: >Anil John wrote in message ID ><01BB6786.67F4DDC0@ppp93.bcpl.lib.md.us>: >> Absolutely right... I was running fvwm from the 2.2 snap CD. I fixed that >> (went and got the fvwm from the 2.1R CD), but I still get a message: > >> fvwm: can't open display. > >Are you running the `fvwm' command when X is running? Sound >suspiciously like you're not. You need to be running the X server for >this to work. Note: if you just type `startx', you'll end up with the >`twm' window manager, so you have to create/alter your .xinitrc file >in order to start fvwm instead of twm. Oops!! That was it...I just started xinit, then ran fvwm and it came up!!. Are there any docs available on how to create/alter my .xinitrc file? Also, where does one find this file? Anil From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 18:41:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA09094 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 18:41:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA09083 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 18:40:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (kelly@emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA15033; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 01:40:40 GMT Message-Id: <199607020140.BAA15033@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA276051685; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:41:25 -0600 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:41:25 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: ajohn@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Cc: lada@ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <01BB6784.D22B07C0@ppp93.bcpl.lib.md.us> (message from Anil John on Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:38:03 -0400) Subject: Re: Missing File - libc.s0.3.0 - help! Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Anil" == Anil John writes: Anil> My question is how do you make xdm or startx start the Anil> 'fvwm' window manager and in which directory can I find the Anil> xsession script? Also what is the proper way of setting the Anil> DISPLAY enviornment variable? To use fvwm: 1. cp /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc $HOME/.xinitrc 2. Edit $HOME/.xinitrc and change the line that says `twm &' to `fvwm &' 3. Save the file. Type startx. To set DISPLAY: Don't. startx, which uses xinit, will set it for you. If you happen to be in a position where it's not set, then set it as follows: * If the program you're trying to run is on the same host where you're running X, set DISPLAY to :0 * If the program is not running on the same host as the X server, the set the DISPLAY to the hostname of the host running the X server, followed by :0 -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 19:43:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA13372 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:43:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts7-line4.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA13351 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA00238; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:42:55 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:42:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Wei Jen Yeh cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.1.5 vs. 2.2 (Subscription) In-Reply-To: <199606292057.QAA02923@sequent.uncfsu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 29 Jun 1996, Wei Jen Yeh wrote: > Will the people on subscription get both 2.1.5 and 2.2? > thanks I sure hope so. That's what the subscription's for! (realize that 2.2 won't be out for another half year after 2.1.5 comes out, under current estimations. And 2.1.5 is supposed to be released Real Soon Now.) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 19:52:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA14581 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:52:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts7-line4.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA14513 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:52:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA00258; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:52:20 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:52:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Sridhar Krishnan cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Boot Manager/ BSD on second disk (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 25 Jun 1996, Sridhar Krishnan wrote: > This is in response to my earlier posting re: booting FreeBSD off the > second hard disk. > > I have not recvd. much any solutions thus far. When I re-installed the > whole thing again, I got a message "root system is read-only" in a > dialog-box. Does anybody know what this means ? You forgot to blow off the FreeBSD partition before reinstalling. Delete the FreeBSD partition using fdisk and try again, or don't newfs the partitions in the disklabel editor. > - If I install the BootEasy (during the sysinstall), the MBR is put on the > boot area of the second disk (because FreeBSD is on second disk ?). I > changed BIOS to look at second disk first for booting purposes, and I got > the F1- dos, F2- BSD prompt. F2 would boot fine from the hard disk but > would error with a [truncated] Reinstall booteasy from the CDROM or ftp site onto your first disk. Should be in /tools or /tools/dist. It's a known bug in the install routines. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 19:59:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA15608 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:59:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ferrari.sfu.ca (ferrari.sfu.ca [142.58.110.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA15589 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:59:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.rfnet.sfu.ca (rs26-annex4.sfu.ca [142.58.125.53]) by ferrari.sfu.ca with SMTP (8.7.1/SFU-2.6H) id TAA01480 for (from mcquiggi@sfu.ca); Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:59:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607020259.TAA01480@ferrari.sfu.ca> X-Sender: mcquiggi@ferrari.sfu.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 19:59:01 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Kevin McQuiggin Subject: Need lib for xpaint/X11R6 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi: I have a question. I've checked the CD, FAQs and the web site. When I try to run xpaint from the 2.1 release (yes, even the version updated today on ftp.freebsd.org, looked in all the updated libraries, etc) I am missing a library. It's libXpm.so.4.6. Anybody know where this shared lib can be found? Thanks, Kevin --- Kevin McQuiggin VE7ZD mcquiggi@sfu.ca From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 20:46:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA21626 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:46:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts7-line4.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA21619 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00359; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:46:14 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:46:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Ben Wern cc: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: FTP Install from MS NT? In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19960701143825.45976416@pop.southeast.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, Ben Wern wrote: > Has anyone here ever had any trouble installing via FTP from a Microsoft NT > server using the CD (2.1)? During installation, it seems to grab the root > image, but doesn't figure out how to get to the bin/ stuff. I attempted to > cludge this by setting the starting point of ftp logins to the DIST > directory - this caused it to install bin/ just fine, but failed miserably > when it tried to move on. I'm assuming this is becuase of a naming or > command structure that MS uses that is non-standard, but I haven't been able > to identify it yet. Any thoughts? Set the ftp error mode to "retry". That will prod sysinstall into trying other directory options, including the proper one for the CDROM layout. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 20:49:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA21987 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:49:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts7-line4.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA21969 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:48:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00366; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:47:41 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:47:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Robert F. Abel" cc: questions@freebsd.org, babel@cais.com Subject: Re: Get mosaic-2.7b4.tgz working In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, Robert F. Abel wrote: > Can not get mosaic-2.7b4.tgz working. Mosaic requires Motif. Do you have Motif? Motif is a commercial window manager. I believe the currently recommended one is sold by XInside. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 20:49:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA22025 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts7-line4.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA22012 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:49:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00373; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:49:06 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:49:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Chris Byler cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hard Ware Configuration In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960701034602.006b2ba4@texoma.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 30 Jun 1996, Chris Byler wrote: > I have a Western Digital EIDE 1.2 gig and a Sony 2X cdrom configured as > slave. Are there any known problems with the configuration? If you don't have a translating or LBA BIOS then make sure the root partition is completely below cylinder 1024. On the above cylinder 1024 is a ways out and isn't a problem. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 20:53:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA22711 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:53:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts7-line4.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA22706 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:53:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00383; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:53:07 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:53:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Arasu Subramaniam cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installation problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, Arasu Subramaniam wrote: > Hi. I'm trying to install FreeBSD 2.0 on my system and can't get very > far. I made the boot disks and when I try to boot from the boot disk I > created, it just keeps rebooting over and over again. Any ideas? > I have a Zeos Pantera 486DX2-66, 2 IDE hard drives and a Mitsumi CD-ROM > drive, no SCSI devices, Diamond Speedstar Pro Video (Cirrus Logic 543x), > 16MB of RAM. Here we go again: 1) Did you use a FRESH, ERROR-FREE floppy to put the boot image on? 2) Did you boot to REAL DOS (no Win95, WinNT, OS/2) to build the floppy image? 3) If you downloaded the image, did you use BINARY mode? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 20:56:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA22924 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:56:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts7-line4.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA22917 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:56:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00394; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:56:15 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:56:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Trung Lam cc: questions Subject: Re: Installing Questions. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 1 Jul 1996, Trung Lam wrote: > After I changed from C drive to CDROM drive, I typed "view" to executed > the software and a "FreeBSD 2.1.0 Directories" displays. Then, I selected > "install.bat" from this FreeBSD menu and press "Enter", I receive an error > message is "EMM386: unrecoverable privileged operation error #00 - press Enter > to reboot". I reboot my computer and make a FreeBSD 2.1.0 installation boot > floppy by selected "makeflp.bat" from the FreeBSD menu and I got a FreeBSD > boot floppy. So far so good. > I reboot my computer with a FreeBSD 2.1.0 installation boot floppy and it > took a while to boot up. After it boot up, an installing window displayed and > I selected "Custom" to installed. After I selected "Custom", another window > displayed and asked which hard drive I would like to install the FreeBSD > 2.1.0, "wd0" or "wd1" ? I selected "wd1", since I have two hard drive in my > computer (C drive and D drive). My C drive is 1.2G and D drive is 1.6G. The D > drive is empty, it doesn't have any file at all, since I just install this > hard drive to run the UNIX Operating System FreeBSD 2.1.0. This hard drive > also format and partition with DOS. After, I selected "wd1" and press "Enter" > , nothing happen, the software go back to the installing menu and asking the > same question that I had answer before. , not , to select the [ ] wd1 checkbox. I think I made that mistake four or five times last time I ran sysinstall :-) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 21:00:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA23109 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts7-line4.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA23065 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00401; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:59:58 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:59:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: deasey@netpath.net cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: june snapshot not available to cdrom subscribers In-Reply-To: <199606302316.TAA14962@server1.netpath.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 30 Jun 1996 deasey@netpath.net wrote: > why ? I thought the whole reason to subscribe was to avoid this very thing ? The snapshots are never sent to the -release subscribers. There is a separate SNAP subscription list. Note that the beta cycle on the newest SNAP is ten (10) days, not even close to long enough to press CDs before 2.1.5 is rolled. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 21:05:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA23439 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:05:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts7-line4.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA23425 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:04:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA00414; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:05:05 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:05:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Alex Antao cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netware & Free In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, Alex Antao wrote: > Where can I find a program that enable mount a directory on Unix for > Netware 4.1 clients pc's ? Say what? Mount a Netware disk on a Unix box? Nope. Make a Unix box a Netware server? www.netcon.com. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 21:14:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA24494 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:14:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA24475 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id FAA06754; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 05:13:10 +0100 (BST) To: "Robert F. Abel" cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, babel@cais.com From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Get mosaic-2.7b4.tgz working In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 01 Jul 1996 16:20:49 -0000." Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 05:13:06 +0100 Message-ID: <6752.836280786@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > can"t find shared libraries "libpng.so.0.88" > Question. > Were can I find the shared library ? The library is in the package: png-0.88.tgz in the same directory. pkg_add it and you should be OK. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 21:31:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA25601 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:31:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts7-line4.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA25594 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:31:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA00465; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:31:17 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:31:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Gary Chrysler cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: src tree owners In-Reply-To: <31D82BF1.298C@ime.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, Gary Chrysler wrote: > Is it safe to chown the src tree so one can use it without > having to be su. > > Is there a `proper` way for this? Why? You have to be su to write to anything in there by default (and I know this from many personal experieneces forgetting to su to root before editing my kernel config :-). Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 21:37:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA26004 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:37:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts7-line4.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA25995 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA00475; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:37:25 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:37:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Y_Edwin_Tang@ccmail.ed.ray.com cc: support@cdrom.com, cybertang@worldnet.att.net, questions@freebsd.com Subject: Re: unable to load FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <01I6K9M9MHC6000JRL@ZEUS.ED.RAY.COM> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 1 Jul 1996 Y_Edwin_Tang@ccmail.ed.ray.com wrote: > After boot from the boot disk and selected CDROM as the boot medium, a > message indicates that I do not have a CDROM. > > I called in for help and was suggested to ensure the CDROM is not on > the soundboard and is configured as slave. The CDROM is connected to > the mother board IDE port, and is defaulted as a slave. > > So what else can I do?? Do what you do to TV programs you don't like: change it! Try moving the CDROM around on the IDE bus(ses), ie slave->master, controller 2-> controller 1, etc. Also make sure that the controller the CDROM is on is configured properly during bootup or in -c. > Also, what driver should I use? The CDROM is an Acer 8X. I do have > the driver for it. I am using NT workstations and trying to have dual > boot capability to also run BSD. ATAPI would be my guess. The IDE controller driver will pick it up properly, IF AND ONLY IF you use the ATAPI.FLP image for your boot floppy. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 21:43:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA26321 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:43:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line9.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.141]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA26308 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA00491; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:43:10 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:43:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Kevin McQuiggin cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need lib for xpaint/X11R6 In-Reply-To: <199607020259.TAA01480@ferrari.sfu.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, Kevin McQuiggin wrote: > I have a question. I've checked the CD, FAQs and the web site. When I try to > run xpaint from the 2.1 release (yes, even the version updated today on > ftp.freebsd.org, looked in all the updated libraries, etc) I am missing a > library. It's libXpm.so.4.6. > > Anybody know where this shared lib can be found? Install the xpm system from ports. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 21:44:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA26422 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:44:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line9.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.141]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA26417 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:44:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA00498; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:44:43 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:44:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Mike Harpe cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UPS support for 2.1?? In-Reply-To: <199607011358.JAA01082@tower.louisville.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, Mike Harpe wrote: > I have a Tripp-Lite UPS with the interface cable attached to the CPU of my > FreeBSD box. Is there any software out there to support orderly shutdown > of FreeBSD during an UPS activation? Not for the Tripp-Lite unless they have their own software (and I doubt that unless they have something for BSDi). If you could get the specs from them we may be able to hack it into existing softare for the APC SmartUPS. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 21:46:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA26469 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:46:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts12-line9.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.141]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA26463 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA00508; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:46:10 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:46:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Kenneth Ingham cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: where is DES? In-Reply-To: <199607011826.MAA08118@cube.i-pi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, Kenneth Ingham wrote: > I checked the ports, packages, the handbook, and the searchable questions at > www.freebsd.org. > > Could someone tell me where it is hiding (for -ldes which is needed by > SSLeay)? I've got the 2.1 CD, so a location there is fine, as is a net > location. Did you install the des distribution? If not then you are in a pickle :( You have to install DES then rebuild the passwords from MD5 to DES. 2.1.5 is amorphic if I remember correctly and thus won't have that problem. Are you sure you don't want -lcrypt instead of -ldes? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 22:22:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA28088 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 22:22:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server1.netpath.net (server1.netpath.net [205.139.153.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA28081 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 22:22:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server1.netpath.net (server1.netpath.net [205.139.153.2]) by server1.netpath.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id BAA05323 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 01:22:52 -0400 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 01:22:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Geoffrey Deasey X-Sender: deasey@server1.netpath.net To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: june snapshot not available to cdrom subscribers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > why ? I thought the whole reason to subscribe was to avoid this very thing ? > > The snapshots are never sent to the -release subscribers. There is a > separate SNAP subscription list. > I know, and I am on it, on the freebsd home page it states that the june snap will not be released to the SNAP subscribers This is what i was questioning ????? --jeff From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 22:24:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA28220 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 22:24:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.kconline.com (ns.kconline.com [207.51.167.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA28211 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 22:24:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jriffle@localhost) by ns.kconline.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA06099 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 00:21:25 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 00:21:25 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Riffle To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Creating QWK packets Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know if there is a way to create a QWK packets for news? Does tin or trn have that capability? Thanks, Jim From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Jul 1 22:50:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA00783 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 22:50:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freenet.hamilton.on.ca (main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA00771 for ; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 22:50:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.66]) by freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id BAA03459; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 01:50:28 -0400 Received: (ac199@localhost) by james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA13937; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 01:52:03 -0400 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 01:52:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek To: Jim Riffle cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Creating QWK packets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jul 1996, Jim Riffle wrote: > Does anyone know if there is a way to create a QWK packets for news? Does > tin or trn have that capability? Something such as `uqwk' can create QWK packets. I don't know if any of the ports have the ability to create QWK packets. I don't use either trn or tin, but I don't believe they are able to (they're just newsreaders). I don't know how much work uqwk would be to port, but there is a Linux version on sunsite.unc.edu. -- Happy Canada Day! Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! tIM...HOEk From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 04:16:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA29277 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 04:16:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mistery.mcafee.com (root@mistery.mcafee.com [192.187.128.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA29270 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 04:16:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jimd@localhost) by mistery.mcafee.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id BAA22970; Fri, 2 Jul 2010 01:15:00 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <201007020815.BAA22970@mistery.mcafee.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. BSDI? To: mrcpu@cdsnet.net (Jaye Mathisen) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 110 01:14:59 -0700 (PDT) Cc: rchan@certicom.ca, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Jaye Mathisen" at Jul 1, 96 05:58:16 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk And SCO is even less support (unless you have *very deep* pockets -- and don't mind having them looted). (Mind you I know some people that work at SCO -- and I like them; particular the crew at the armory (armory.com) but their pricing strategy and marketing is wretched). > Hah. Moving from FreeBSD to BSD/OS is not a step towards more support. > On Tue, 25 Jun 1996, R. Chan wrote: > > Hi, > > We are running freebsd from the walnut creek cd. We would like to move > > to an O/S with more support such as BSDI or something else such as > > SCO. In any case, does anyone know what the differences are between > > freebsd and BSDI's BSD/OS? Can we run all the freebsd packages that > > came with the walnut creek cd on a BSDI system? > > Thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 04:16:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA29297 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 04:16:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mistery.mcafee.com (root@mistery.mcafee.com [192.187.128.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA29291 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 04:16:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jimd@localhost) by mistery.mcafee.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id BAA22985; Fri, 2 Jul 2010 01:18:50 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <201007020818.BAA22985@mistery.mcafee.com> Subject: Re: rlogin as root refused To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 110 01:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Cc: mc7953@mclink.it, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607012209.PAA06700@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at Jul 1, 96 03:09:51 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > I'm getting problems doing rlogin as root, always when towards FreeBSD > > machines. > > I can do rsh generic commands and rcp, but not rlogin. > > I set a "+" in the ~root/.rhosts file, but this doesn't suffice. > > It is *dangerous* to do this. You want to specify particular machines > and users, if you allow this at all. I agree. Use 'su -' or build and configure 'sudo'. > The pty's do not allow root login. This is a security option which > you *can* turn off. We advise against it strongly (so strongly, > that by default we don't allow it, and you have to turn it off). I think this is a wise design choice (even if you think your machine is "safe" behind packet filters, and firewalls, and even if you've installed and correctly configured TCP Wrappers). Jim Dennis, former System Administrator, McAfee Associates From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 04:17:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA29317 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 04:17:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mistery.mcafee.com (root@mistery.mcafee.com [192.187.128.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA29311 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 04:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jimd@localhost) by mistery.mcafee.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id AAA22912; Fri, 2 Jul 2010 00:03:39 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <201007020703.AAA22912@mistery.mcafee.com> Subject: Re: Netware & Free To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Fri, 2 Jul 110 00:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Cc: e9203125@pegasus.cpd.unb.br, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Doug White" at Jul 1, 96 09:05:04 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, Alex Antao wrote: > > > Where can I find a program that enable mount a directory on Unix for > > Netware 4.1 clients pc's ? > > Say what? > Mount a Netware disk on a Unix box? Nope. > Make a Unix box a Netware server? www.netcon.com. Alex, Do you mean to export part of your Unix filesystem to netware clients (such that they could access it using IPX client software) or do you mean to export it and have a Netware server mount it (so that it would appear as a netware volume on an existing server) or do you want to take a physical disk, with a netware filesystem on it and mount that under Unix, or do you want to mount a netware server/volume from your Unix box to allow users/processes on that host to access Netware stuff. There are many solutions to most of these scenarios -- some of them even overlap. The only one of these that is not possible (to my knowledge) is any sort of direct mounting of a Netware filesystem on a local physical drive -- Novell has been exceedingly protective of it's internal filesystem structures. Export Unix filesystem to Netware clients: Linux -- look for 'mars' in the Linux software map. Other brands (of *ix): see if there is a port of the Netware for Unix that is still available for your brand. Export Unix filesystem to Netware servers: By the NFS NLM package from Novell or the equivalent. Mount Netware filesystems under Unix directory tree: Linux -- look for 'ncpfs' (free) or get the Caldera CND (Network Desktop) distribution which includes bindery and NDS client support. The key developers at Caldera were engineers in the advanced research group at Novell before Ray Noorda left them. They have lots of info about the inner workings of NCP (netware core protocols) and the licenses to use that knowlege in Caldera's products. Caldera's team also contributed some of the IPX code back to the Linux community (in the spirit of the GPL under which they're using it) Use the NFS NLM package (so your netware server exports volumes under NFS protocols). Note that most of the free/low cost options are Linux-centric. Caldera desktop can be had for about $100 (US) -- and their big applications suites is less than $500 (comes with commercial spreadsheet (Nexus?), WordPerfect, and a load of other stuff that I don't use). I've got some people upstairs using ncpfs with moderate success (some complain that the performance seems lacking and they sometimes experience "glitches" -- but for convenient interactive use it seems to fill the bill (I just wouldn't try to use it in mission and time critical applications yet). One of my boxes runs Caldera. I've never had the slightest problem with access Netware file servers under it. I havent' tried any things special yet (re-exporting the mounted NCP directory via NFS for example) -- all I do is use scripts to copy files from the mount point to a staging area -- where rdist picks them up and distributes them to the FreeBSD servers. Jim Dennis, former System Administrator, McAfee Associates From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 05:26:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA03412 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 05:26:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA03405 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 05:26:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id FAA09176 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 05:26:21 -0700 Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id aa25034; 2 Jul 96 11:59 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa15043; 2 Jul 96 12:53 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA01066; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:44:43 GMT Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:44:43 GMT Message-Id: <199607021144.LAA01066@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu CC: tcg@ime.net, questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Doug White on Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:31:17 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: src tree owners Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Is it safe to chown the src tree so one can use it without > > having to be su. > > > > Is there a `proper` way for this? > > Why? You have to be su to write to anything in there by default (and I > know this from many personal experieneces forgetting to su to root before > editing my kernel config :-). Erm, perhaps that was why he was asking? :-) In any event, you have to be root to be able to *install* anything you've built from the source tree, so there doesn't seem to be a great deal of point in changing it. On Unix, the `proper` way is for configuration files to be owned by root - it's not a good idea to allow just anybody to change them! -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 05:40:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA04351 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 05:40:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from CRISTAL.CPRM.GOV.BR ([200.20.110.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA04335 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 05:40:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607021240.FAA04335@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: from BRCPRM by CRISTAL.CPRM.GOV.BR (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 0120; Tue, 02 Jul 96 09:37:42 UTC Received: from cristal.cprm.gov.br (EQ1) by BRCPRM (Mailer R2.08 R208004) with BSMTP id 0017; Tue, 02 Jul 96 09:37:41 UTC Date: Tue, 02 Jul 96 09:35:52 UTC From: Erardo Subject: talk for ibm To: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi I need to find a talk program wich can i use in a mainframe ibm 9221 with vm/esa sytem thank's for some help Erardo - Rio From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 05:42:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA04478 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 05:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.NL.net (ns.NL.net [193.78.240.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA04128 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 05:38:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pop.KnoT.nl by ns.NL.net with SMTP id AA03833 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Tue, 2 Jul 1996 13:57:10 +0200 Received: from [193.78.85.27] by 193.78.85.4 with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1); Tue, 2 Jul 1996 13:55:34 +0200 X-Sender: noud@pop.knot.nl (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: noud@knot.nl (noud de brouwer) Subject: Re: is there a sys.tar.gz?? anyway, it's up&running Cc: "Hr.Ladavac" , John Brann , James Raynard Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 13:55:34 +0200 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ThanX all, had to get the user-dist, after that the kernel-dev-dist. one kernel compile to get ppp in .. some twiddling with the serial cable..but it's up&running. As a gateway, in favor of a mac with NetBSD on it, giving me a speed increase from 3.4k/s to 5.2k/s. And much more releable with the DB-9 i.s.o. mini-din-8. ~n From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 05:47:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA04754 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 05:47:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asylum.asylum.org (asylum.asylum.org [205.217.4.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA04747 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 05:47:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dlr@localhost) by asylum.asylum.org (8.6.10/8.6.9) id HAA07316 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 07:49:16 -0400 From: dlr Message-Id: <199607021149.HAA07316@asylum.asylum.org> Subject: Interrupt-level buffer overflow To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 07:49:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've upgraded from Freebsd2.0 to Freebsd 2.1R on a 486-66. I'm getting the above message on sio1 which has a USR courrier attached via a 16550 serial port and pppd (pppd in the kernel). Things seem to work well except i see this overflow message appearing daily. I wasn't getting this message when i ran v2.0 on a 486-50 but it had a different serial card in it. the exact error message is: /kernel: sio1: n(some number) interrupt-level buffer overflows (total some #). I'm not certain whether i need to yank the serial card or work on the software or just ignore it. (maybe it is just someone flood pinging me). thanks, dave From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 06:00:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA05805 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 06:00:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from garion.hq.ferg.com (pm1-16.wmbg.widomaker.com [204.17.220.116]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA05772 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 06:00:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.hq.ferg.com (localhost.hq.ferg.com [127.0.0.1]) by garion.hq.ferg.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA22830 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:00:25 -0400 Message-Id: <199607021300.JAA22830@garion.hq.ferg.com> X-Authentication-Warning: garion.hq.ferg.com: Host localhost.hq.ferg.com didn't use HELO protocol From: Branson Matheson To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Drivers for new boards.... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 09:00:24 -0400 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am looking for information anyone might have concerning some new boards that I have seen for sale. Specifically drivers, information to create the drivers, etc... - Radio Reciever boards... allows one to control a radio reciever, which is built into a computer board, via software. - Video Receiver boards... allows one to control a television signal reciever and display the video on the screen. I know that we have video capture boards.. but can you select channels? - Infrared transmitters/recievers? -branson ============================================================================= Branson Matheson | Ferguson Enterprises | If Pete and Repeat were System Administrator | W: (804) 874-7795 | sittin on a fence and Pete Unix, Perl, WWW | branson@widomaker.com | fell off, who is left? From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 07:21:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA10769 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 07:21:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mars.csg.peachnet.edu (mars.CSG.PeachNet.EDU [168.26.193.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA10762 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 07:21:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.csg.peachnet.edu (mercury.CSG.PeachNet.EDU [168.26.193.32]) by mars.csg.peachnet.edu (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA02283 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 10:10:23 -0400 Received: from CCMAIN/SpoolDir by mercury.csg.peachnet.edu (Mercury 1.21); 2 Jul 96 10:23:38 EST Received: from SpoolDir by CCMAIN (Mercury 1.30); 2 Jul 96 10:23:20 EST From: "Christian" Organization: Columbus College, Columbus, GA To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 10:23:17 EST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: question about mail -- mail gurus please help Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.31 Message-ID: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I would like to know if it is possible, using any tools available in UNIX - FreeBSD in particular, to set up a system that would automatically answer mail sent to any user on the system with a stock message. Let me try to explain what I would like to do more clearly. Say a person sends a message to someuser@cc.csg.peachnet.edu. What I would like is to have the machine take the sender's address from the message and return to them a message that says something like "someuser@cc.csg.peachnet.edu can no longer receive mail at this address. The new address is someuser@ColState.EDU please make note of this change." Simple enough, huh? But it gets more interesting.... Ideally the user should not need to have an account on the system that does this forwarding. What I mean is, that any and all mail sent to any name @cc.csg.peachnet.edu be sent this message, wether or not the user's name exists on the host. i.e. I can send a message to cplazas@cc.csg.peachnet.edu or mickey_mouse@cc.csg.peachnet.edu and both would get the same reply even if mickey_mouse was not a user on the system. Is this possible? Thanks, C.P. ____________ Christian Plazas Columbus College, Columbus,GA 706.568.2063 ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 07:56:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA12793 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 07:56:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA12772; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 07:55:59 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199607021455.HAA12772@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: question about mail -- mail gurus please help To: PLAZAS_CHRISTIAN@mercury.csg.peachnet.edu (Christian) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 07:55:58 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Christian" at Jul 2, 96 10:23:17 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Christian wrote: > > Hi, > > I would like to know if it is possible, using any tools available > in UNIX - FreeBSD in particular, to set up a system that would > automatically answer mail sent to any user on the system with a stock > message. Let me try to explain what I would like to do more clearly. > Say a person sends a message to someuser@cc.csg.peachnet.edu. What > I would like is to have the machine take the sender's address from > the message and return to them a message that says something like > "someuser@cc.csg.peachnet.edu can no longer receive mail at this > address. The new address is someuser@ColState.EDU please make note of > this change." Simple enough, huh? But it gets more interesting.... > Ideally the user should not need to have an account on the system > that does this forwarding. What I mean is, that any and all mail > sent to any name @cc.csg.peachnet.edu be sent this message, wether or > not the user's name exists on the host. i.e. I can send a message to > cplazas@cc.csg.peachnet.edu or mickey_mouse@cc.csg.peachnet.edu and > both would get the same reply even if mickey_mouse was not a user on > the system. Is this possible? to do this on an person by person basis is easy. use REDIRECT add to your /etc/aliases file on the mailhost for cc.csg.peachnet.edu someuser: someuser@ColState.EDU.REDIRECT add to your .mc file: feature(redirect) redirect Reject all mail addressed to "address.REDIRECT" with a ``551 User not local; please try
'' message. If this is set, you can alias people who have left to their new address with ".REDIRECT" appended. create a new .cf using m4 and install. dont forget to kill and restart sendmail jmb -- Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD--4.4BSD Unix for PC clones, source included. http://www.freebsd.org/ PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 07:58:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA12975 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 07:58:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA12970; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 07:58:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (kelly@emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA17090; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 14:58:44 GMT Message-Id: <199607021458.OAA17090@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA096849574; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 08:59:34 -0600 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 08:59:34 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: ajohn@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Cc: gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <01BB6791.5C34BEA0@ppp93.bcpl.lib.md.us> (message from Anil John on Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:07:48 -0400) Subject: Re: Missing File - libc.s0.3.0 - help! Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Anil" == Anil John writes: Anil> Oops!! That was it...I just started xinit, then ran fvwm and Anil> it came up!!. Are there any docs available on how to Anil> create/alter my .xinitrc file? Also, where does one find Anil> this file? .xinitrc is a program that gets executed by xinit after xinit starts the X server. When your .xinitrc exits, the X server shuts down. Typically, .xinitrc is a shell script. It can be Bourne, csh, perl, tcl, whatever scripting language you like. (It can be a compiled program, if you prefer.) People usually make it a script since it's easy to edit and to make sure your favorite windows in your favorite locations each time you start up. Remember that the X server shuts down when the .xinitrc exits. So, what many people do is make it a script and put every program started by the script in the background except the last one. The last one is usually the window manager or an xterm. When the window manager or that xterm exits, the you shut down X. Here's an example: #!/bin/sh xterm -geometry +0+0 & # Start xterm in upper left corner. xclock -geometry -0+0 & # Clock in upper right corner. emacs -geometry +0-0 & # Emacs in lower left corner. fvwm # And finally the window manager. So, to answer your other question: where is the .xinitrc file usually located. It's usually in your home directory: $HOME/.xinitrc. If you don't have such a file, just make one using your favorite text editor (for a script) or compile up a program and call it .xinitrc! -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 08:33:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA15807 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 08:33:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from okeefe.bestweb.net (root@jordyn.dialup.cloud9.net [168.100.205.62]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA15793 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 08:32:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jordyn.dialup.cloud9.net.could9.net (degas.bestweb.net [192.168.1.240]) by okeefe.bestweb.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA00520; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:32:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960702153220.006a5354@pop.bestweb.net> X-Sender: jordyn@pop.bestweb.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 11:32:20 -0400 To: "Christian" , questions@freebsd.org From: "Jordyn A. Buchanan" Subject: Re: question about mail -- mail gurus please help Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 10:23 AM 7/2/96 EST, Christian wrote: >Hi, > > I would like to know if it is possible, using any tools available >in UNIX - FreeBSD in particular, to set up a system that would >automatically answer mail sent to any user on the system with a stock >message. [stuff ommitted] >Ideally the user should not need to have an account on the system >that does this forwarding. What I mean is, that any and all mail >sent to any name @cc.csg.peachnet.edu be sent this message, wether or >not the user's name exists on the host. i.e. I can send a message to >cplazas@cc.csg.peachnet.edu or mickey_mouse@cc.csg.peachnet.edu and >both would get the same reply even if mickey_mouse was not a user on >the system. Is this possible? I would use sendmail's mailertable feature for this. This requires: * Sendmail 8.7.X (preferably 8.7.5) * Procmail Make sure you add the mailertable feature to your sendmail.cf file. Create a file called /etc/mailertable with this line in it: cc.csg.peachnet.edu procmail:/etc/procmailrcs/cc.csg.peachnet.edu (Note, once you creat the text mailertable file, you need to make a hash of it with a command like: 'makemap hash /etc/mailertable.db < /etc/mailertable'.) This sets things up so that inbound mail to addresses @cc.csg.peachnet.edu are processed through the procmail recipe file /etc/procmailrcs/cc.csg.peachnet.edu. For example, you could insert something like this into that file (this is a slightly modified version of the really simply autoresponder from the procmailex man page; there is also a more complex example that you can modify to suit your needs): :0 h c * !^FROM_DAEMON * !^X-Loop: postmaster@cc.csg.peachnet.edu | (formail -r -A"Precedence: junk" \ -A"X-Loop: postmaster@cc.csg.peachnet.edu" \ -I"From: postmaster@cc.csg.peachnet.edu"; \ cat /etc/autoreply) | $SENDMAIL -t Theoretically, that should respond with the contents of the file /etc/autoreply, but I haven't tested this to make sure I'm not an idiot and telling you something completely wrong. Mailertables are great. You can have all sorts of fun with them. Jordyn ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jordyn A. Buchanan jordyn@bestweb.net BestWeb Corporation +1 914 271 4500 Senior Systems Administrator From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 09:00:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA18168 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:00:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from franklin.cris.com (franklin.cris.com [199.3.12.31]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA18153 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:00:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from galileo.cris.com (galileo [199.3.12.30]) by franklin.cris.com (8.7.5/(96/06/11 2.45)) id MAA02979; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:00:28 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from localhost by galileo.cris.com (4.1) id AA17158; Tue, 2 Jul 96 12:00:26 EDT Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:00:25 -0400 (EDT) From: JAMIE To: Doug White Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help on installation In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 21 Jun 1996, Doug White wrote: > On Tue, 18 Jun 1996, JAMIE wrote: > > > Sorry to bother you, but I keep getting stuck at the same spot on the > > installation. I've tried dozens of times over the past week with several > > boot and root disks trying to do a floppy install and I keep getting hung > > when I try to load the root floppy. Also, though I'm not sure if it is > > supposed to boot without the root floppy installed, but if I try to boot > > straight from my hard drive instead of using the boot floppy I get the > > same prompt as with the boot floppy but instead of going to the install > > menu the opening message and prompt just keep repeating. > > Are you using known error-free floppies? > Are you ftping with BINARY? > Are you writing the floppy images under MS-DOS mode of Windows 95? > > What version of FreeBSD are you installing? > > Doug White | University of Oregon > Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > > Sorry about the delay in my reply. I decided to swap out my IDE drive for a SCSI drive and an adapter, so I've been down for a while. But, in case you were curoius... I formatted them myself, but of course can never be certian. yes no 2.1.0 I'm not really sure what my problem was, and now I have a new one (bad tracking on my SCSI Conner). I rma'd it and got another and so'll I'll try again tonight after work. Thanks for your help and wish me luck. -jamie From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 09:14:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA18915 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:14:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fairchild.lmco.com (medusa.fairchild.lmco.com [158.186.88.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA18906 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:14:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from medusa by fairchild.lmco.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0ub85Y-003E3OC; Tue, 2 Jul 96 12:14 EDT Message-ID: <31D94AD0.6252@fairchild.lmco.com> Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 12:14:08 -0400 From: Arthur Krewat X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: pentium pro cpu's X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook100.html#158 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Are Pentium Pro cpu's supported under FreeBSD 2.1 or higher? I am considering buying one for home, but I only run FreeBSD! thanks -- Arthur Krewat - krewat@fairchild.lmco.com EIS Administrator Lockheed Martin Fairchild Systems, Syosset, New York (516) 349-2107 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 09:23:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA19859 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:23:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA19846 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:23:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-20.ime.net [206.231.148.149]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA04452; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:23:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31D94D2F.69D5@ime.net> Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 12:24:15 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu CC: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: src tree owners References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Doug White wrote: > > On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, Gary Chrysler wrote: > > > Is it safe to chown the src tree so one can use it without > > having to be su. > > > > Is there a `proper` way for this? > > Why? You have to be su to write to anything in there by default (and I > know this from many personal experieneces forgetting to su to root before > editing my kernel config :-). > My exact problem.. I want to make it so I don't have to su. Except maybe to make. It would seem to be a natural thing to me to setup the src tree to be writable from my normal account. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 09:28:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA20159 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:28:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sam.networx.ie (dublin-ts15-94.indigo.ie [194.125.134.94]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA20142 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mip1.networx.ie (mip1.networx.ie [194.9.12.1]) by sam.networx.ie (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA04672 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 15:12:13 GMT X-Organisation: I.T. NetworX Ltd X-Business: Network Consultancy and Training X-Address: 67 Merrion Square, Dublin 2, Ireland X-Voice: +353-1-676-8866 X-Fax: +353-1-676-8868 Received: from mike.networx.ie by mip1.networx.ie Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 15:10:35 BST From: Michael Ryan Reply-To: mike@networx.ie Subject: security mailing lists To: FreeBSD Support Message-Id: Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Please, how do I subscribe to security@freebsd.org and security-notification@freebsd.org Mike --- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 09:29:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA20182 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:29:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sam.networx.ie (dublin-ts15-94.indigo.ie [194.125.134.94]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA20158 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:28:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mip1.networx.ie (mip1.networx.ie [194.9.12.1]) by sam.networx.ie (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA05314 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:21:52 GMT X-Organisation: I.T. NetworX Ltd X-Business: Network Consultancy and Training X-Address: 67 Merrion Square, Dublin 2, Ireland X-Voice: +353-1-676-8866 X-Fax: +353-1-676-8868 Received: from mike.networx.ie by mip1.networx.ie Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:20:15 BST From: Michael Ryan Reply-To: mike@networx.ie Subject: Bug in /bin/sh To: FreeBSD Support Message-Id: Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can anybody confirm that there is a bug in /bin/sh in FreeBSD v2.1, which the following commands illustrate... ------------------------------------------ $ cat > shbug #! /bin/sh -- f () { echo start test $1 = abc && { echo middle return 1 } there is no command called "there" & echo end return 0 } f $1 exit 0 ^D $ chmod +x shbug $ shbug abc start end $ middle ------------------------------------------ Note how the "echo end" statement got executed, eventhough it should not have? Also, it doesn't complain about the command "there" not being found. It's the "&" at the end of the "there" command that seems to confuse the shell. Remove it and the script works as you'd expect. Please email any replies to me directly (as well as to the list if you like), as I'm not on the mailing list right now. Thanks, Mike --- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 09:58:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA22217 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:58:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA22208 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 09:58:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-20.ime.net [206.231.148.149]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA06921; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:57:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31D9552A.2988@ime.net> Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 12:58:18 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Raynard CC: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: src tree owners References: <199607021144.LAA01066@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk James Raynard wrote: > > > > Is it safe to chown the src tree so one can use it without > > > having to be su. > > > > > > Is there a `proper` way for this? > > > > Why? You have to be su to write to anything in there by default (and I > > know this from many personal experieneces forgetting to su to root before > > editing my kernel config :-). > > Erm, perhaps that was why he was asking? :-) > Thanks James.. :) > In any event, you have to be root to be able to *install* anything > you've built from the source tree, so there doesn't seem to be a great > deal of point in changing it. Yes, I understand the need to be root for install. No problem. But what about general editing of the source. I would like to make it so *I* don't have to su. It's very anoying to get into tweaking a source file, Go to save and it pops up `Read Only`! I know, su'ing first will solve that problem.. :) > On Unix, the `proper` way is for configuration files to be owned by > root - it's not a good idea to allow just anybody to change them! I Agree! My question was/is about the Source tree! -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 10:03:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA22516 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 10:03:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from louie.udel.edu (louie.udel.edu [128.175.1.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA22511 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 10:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snow-white.ee.udel.edu by louie.udel.edu id aa23706; 2 Jul 96 13:03 EDT Received: from stimpy.eecis.udel.edu by snow-white.ee.udel.edu id aa20002; 2 Jul 96 13:03 EDT Received: from snow-white.ee.udel.edu by stimpy.eecis.udel.edu id aa24816; 2 Jul 96 17:02 GMT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Help With GCC!!! Organization: Mos Eisley Candy Store MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <24810.836326977.1@louie.udel.edu> Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 13:02:57 -0400 From: Jerry Alexandratos Message-ID: <9607021702.aa24816@stimpy.eecis.udel.edu> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi. I'm trying to install gcc with cross-compiler support (why use a pc when all I need to do is compile software for it?). 8) Anyway, I was rooting through /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc and I noticed a README that told me to steer clear and get the complete gcc sources and use those for me to play with. Let me stop right there and let you all know that I'm using 2.1-STABLE with gcc 2.6.3. It's on a Gateway 2000 P5-75 (though for the question at hand, I don't think that's really relivant). Back to my story. Looking around the mit archives, I see a 2.5.8 tarball, and diffs for 2.6.0 to 2.6.3. The diffs for 2.5.8 to 2.6.0 say that there were many changes and to just get the "latest" tarfile. I would've just grabbed 2.7.2, but I remember reading somewhere that FreeBSD hasn't jumped to that version yet because of a bunch of bugs and other problems. So, does anyone know where I can find a 2.6.3 tarball or at the very least a 2.6.0 that I can then apply the patches onto. Also, any pointers or tips on cross-compiling won't be turned away. 8) --Jerry 8) Jerry Alexandratos % - % "Nothing inhabits my (8 8) alexandr@louie.udel.edu % - % thoughts, and oblivion (8 8) darkstar@strauss.udel.edu % - % drives my desires." (8 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 10:26:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA23986 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 10:26:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rk.ios.com (rk.ios.com [198.4.75.55]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA23981 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 10:26:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rashid@localhost) by rk.ios.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA12316; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 13:25:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Rashid Karimov Message-Id: <199607021725.NAA12316@rk.ios.com> Subject: Re: Bug in /bin/sh To: mike@networx.ie Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 13:25:15 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Michael Ryan" at Jul 2, 96 05:20:15 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk it is well known that classic "sh" is buggy. It fails for example on some complex "configure" scripts ... can't recall the name of the product, I think it's something from GNU project. Use bash instead. Rashid. > Can anybody confirm that there is a bug in /bin/sh in FreeBSD v2.1, > which the following commands illustrate... > > ------------------------------------------ > $ cat > shbug > #! /bin/sh -- > f () { > echo start > test $1 = abc && { > echo middle > return 1 > } > there is no command called "there" & > echo end > return 0 > } > f $1 > exit 0 > ^D > $ chmod +x shbug > $ shbug abc > start > end > $ middle > ------------------------------------------ > > Note how the "echo end" statement got executed, eventhough it > should not have? Also, it doesn't complain about the command > "there" not being found. > > It's the "&" at the end of the "there" command that seems to > confuse the shell. Remove it and the script works as you'd > expect. > > Please email any replies to me directly (as well as to the > list if you like), as I'm not on the mailing list right now. > > > Thanks, > Mike > > --- > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 10:39:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA24670 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 10:39:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from garion.hq.ferg.com (pm1-16.wmbg.widomaker.com [204.17.220.116]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA24659 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 10:39:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.hq.ferg.com (localhost.hq.ferg.com [127.0.0.1]) by garion.hq.ferg.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA25566; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 13:39:30 -0400 Message-Id: <199607021739.NAA25566@garion.hq.ferg.com> X-Authentication-Warning: garion.hq.ferg.com: Host localhost.hq.ferg.com didn't use HELO protocol From: Branson Matheson To: Sujal Patel Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RealAudio?? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 Jul 1996 13:24:42 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 13:39:30 -0400 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -------- Sujal Patel uttered with conviction: > > Try turning off 16bit audio (i.e. turn on 8bit) under the > preferences menu (it will store this setting in the rc). This fixed the problem .. however i had to actually edit the .raplayerrc file and change the: BitsPerSample=8 Line from 16 to 8 as shown above. -branson ============================================================================= Branson Matheson | Ferguson Enterprises | If Pete and Repeat were System Administrator | W: (804) 874-7795 | sittin on a fence and Pete Unix, Perl, WWW | branson@widomaker.com | fell off, who is left? From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 10:48:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA25365 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 10:48:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA25358; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 10:48:08 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199607021748.KAA25358@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: security mailing lists To: mike@networx.ie Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 10:48:08 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Michael Ryan" at Jul 2, 96 03:10:35 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Michael Ryan wrote: > > Please, how do I subscribe to > security@freebsd.org > and > security-notification@freebsd.org send mail to majordomo@freebsd.org with four line in the body subscribe security@freebsd.org subscribe security-notification@freebsd.org help end that's all you need to do ;) jmb -- Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD--4.4BSD Unix for PC clones, source included. http://www.freebsd.org/ PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 11:08:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA26682 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:08:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mistery.mcafee.com (jimd@mistery.mcafee.com [192.187.128.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA26677 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:08:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jimd@localhost) by mistery.mcafee.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA23381; Fri, 2 Jul 2010 11:26:09 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <201007021826.LAA23381@mistery.mcafee.com> Subject: Re: src tree owners To: tcg@ime.net Date: Fri, 2 Jul 110 11:26:09 -0700 (PDT) Cc: fqueries@jraynard.demon.co.uk, dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <31D9552A.2988@ime.net> from "Gary Chrysler" at Jul 2, 96 12:58:18 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > James Raynard wrote: > > > > Is it safe to chown the src tree so one can use it without > > > > having to be su. > > > > Is there a `proper` way for this? > > > Why? You have to be su to write to anything in there by default (and I > > > know this from many personal experieneces forgetting to su to root before > > > editing my kernel config :-). > > Erm, perhaps that was why he was asking? :-) > > Thanks James.. :) > > > In any event, you have to be root to be able to *install* anything > > you've built from the source tree, so there doesn't seem to be a great > > deal of point in changing it. > > Yes, I understand the need to be root for install. No problem. > But what about general editing of the source. > I would like to make it so *I* don't have to su. > It's very anoying to get into tweaking a source file, Go to save > and it pops up `Read Only`! > > I know, su'ing first will solve that problem.. :) > > > On Unix, the `proper` way is for configuration files to be owned by > > root - it's not a good idea to allow just anybody to change them! > > I Agree! My question was/is about the Source tree! You might consider simply adding yourself to the 'bin' group (and setting the SGID bit on the directories). The default configuration seems to leave the sources g+w and owned by root.bin. In a multi-user environment you should consider installing tripwire and being particularly careful to monitor it for source tree changes. Anyone who can get a simply change into any source file -- and get 'root' to build it can effectively take control of the entire system. (This is true of the system binaries as well -- but more insidious). > -Enjoy > Gary > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours > The Borg... Where minds meet > (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 11:16:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA27450 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:16:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell.aros.net (root@shell.aros.net [205.164.111.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA27438 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:16:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from angio@localhost) by shell.aros.net (8.7.5/Unknown) id MAA06348; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:16:24 -0600 (MDT) From: Dave Andersen Message-Id: <199607021816.MAA06348@shell.aros.net> Subject: Re: pentium pro cpu's To: krewat@fairchild.lmco.com (Arthur Krewat) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:16:23 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31D94AD0.6252@fairchild.lmco.com> from Arthur Krewat at "Jul 2, 96 12:14:08 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL13 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Yes, they run very well. ftp.wcarchive.com runs on a pentium pro - see the file 'config' in the base directory of cdrom.com. -Dave Lo and behold, Arthur Krewat once said: > Are Pentium Pro cpu's supported under FreeBSD 2.1 or higher? > > I am considering buying one for home, but I only run FreeBSD! > > thanks > > > -- > > Arthur Krewat - krewat@fairchild.lmco.com > EIS Administrator > Lockheed Martin Fairchild Systems, Syosset, New York > (516) 349-2107 > -- angio@aros.net Complete virtual hosting and business-oriented system administration Internet services. (WWW, FTP, email) http://www.aros.net/ http://www.aros.net/about/virtual "There are only two industries that refer to their customers as 'users'." From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 11:24:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA28180 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:24:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA28175 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:24:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA08515; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:22:08 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607021822.LAA08515@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Netware & Free To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:22:08 -0700 (MST) Cc: e9203125@pegasus.cpd.unb.br, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Doug White" at Jul 1, 96 09:05:04 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Where can I find a program that enable mount a directory on Unix for > > Netware 4.1 clients pc's ? > > Say what? > > Mount a Netware disk on a Unix box? Nope. Product: NUC NetWare UNIX Client Vendor: Novell Source License: Yes Resale License: Yes Resale License Cost: $100,000 Notes: Correctly resolves the client/credentials problem that plagues SMBFS. Over 60 man years of developement. Includes full IPX, SPX stacks, etc.. > Make a Unix box a Netware server? www.netcon.com. Product: NWU NetWare for UNIX Vendor: Novell Source License: Yes Resale License: Yes Resale License Cost: $150,000 Notes: Includes all utilities normally found on Server. Full NDS (Novell Directory Services). Over 300 man years of developement (not including Native NetWare developement). Has Virtual terminal services; includes full IPX, SPX stacks, etc.. NB: When Novell still owned UNIX, they sold a UnixWare source licenses under the same terms for $250,000. This license included NUC + NWU as part of the package. What is the value of UnixWare? $250,000 - ($100,000 + $150,000) = $0. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 11:29:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA28490 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:29:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from watson.grauel.com (watson.grauel.com [199.233.104.36]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA28484 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:29:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sparcmill.grauel.com (sparcmill.grauel.com [199.233.104.34]) by watson.grauel.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA07538; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 13:39:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by sparcmill.grauel.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA21029; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 13:28:19 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 13:28:19 -0500 From: rjk@sparcmill.grauel.com (Richard J Kuhns) Message-Id: <199607021828.NAA21029@sparcmill.grauel.com> To: tcg@ime.net Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: src tree owners In-Reply-To: <31D9552A.2988@ime.net> References: <199607021144.LAA01066@jraynard.demon.co.uk> <31D9552A.2988@ime.net> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gary Chrysler writes: > James Raynard wrote: > > > > > > Is it safe to chown the src tree so one can use it without > > > > having to be su. > > > > > > > > Is there a `proper` way for this? > > > > > > Why? You have to be su to write to anything in there by default (and I > > > know this from many personal experieneces forgetting to su to root before > > > editing my kernel config :-). > > > > Erm, perhaps that was why he was asking? :-) > > > > Thanks James.. :) > > > In any event, you have to be root to be able to *install* anything > > you've built from the source tree, so there doesn't seem to be a great > > deal of point in changing it. > > Yes, I understand the need to be root for install. No problem. > But what about general editing of the source. > I would like to make it so *I* don't have to su. > It's very anoying to get into tweaking a source file, Go to save > and it pops up `Read Only`! > > I know, su'ing first will solve that problem.. :) > > > On Unix, the `proper` way is for configuration files to be owned by > > root - it's not a good idea to allow just anybody to change them! > > I Agree! My question was/is about the Source tree! FWIW, I do a "chgrp -R prog .; chmod -R g+w ." in /usr/src for every new installation; "prog" is a group we created locally for those of us who like to play with the source. I've been doing this since v2.0; it simplifies applying ctm updates, and I've not encountered any problems so far. -- Rich Kuhns rjk@grauel.com PO Box 6249 Tel: (317)477-6000 x319 100 Sawmill Road Lafayette, IN 47903 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 11:33:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA28777 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:33:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from actcom.co.il (root@actcom.co.il [192.114.47.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA28769 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:33:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vipe.actcom.co.il by actcom.co.il with SMTP (8.6.12/actcom-0.1) id VAA08000 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 21:33:38 +0300 (rfc931-sender: vipe.actcom.co.il [192.114.47.21]) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960701183322.006fc9c4@mail.actcom.co.il> X-Sender: andi@mail.actcom.co.il X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 21:33:22 +0300 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Andi Gutmans Subject: IPX routing Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hey, Has anyone used FreeBSD successfully as an ipx gateway? I've been using a linux machine to act as a gateway for a 16 pc novel farm, so the linux machine does both the ipx and tcp/ip forwarding. Can FreeBSD do the same with IPX? What version supports it? Thanks, Andi Gutmans From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 11:48:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA29487 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:48:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA29478 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:48:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-5.ime.net [206.231.148.134]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA13754; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 14:44:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31D96E27.4F97@ime.net> Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 14:44:55 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Dennis CC: fqueries@jraynard.demon.co.uk, dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: src tree owners References: <201007021826.LAA23381@mistery.mcafee.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jim Dennis wrote: > > > > > James Raynard wrote: > > > > > Is it safe to chown the src tree so one can use it without > > > > > having to be su. > > > > > Is there a `proper` way for this? > > > > Why? You have to be su to write to anything in there by default (and I > > > > know this from many personal experieneces forgetting to su to root before > > > > editing my kernel config :-). > > > Erm, perhaps that was why he was asking? :-) > > > > Thanks James.. :) > > > > > In any event, you have to be root to be able to *install* anything > > > you've built from the source tree, so there doesn't seem to be a great > > > deal of point in changing it. > > > > Yes, I understand the need to be root for install. No problem. > > But what about general editing of the source. > > I would like to make it so *I* don't have to su. > > It's very anoying to get into tweaking a source file, Go to save > > and it pops up `Read Only`! > > > > I know, su'ing first will solve that problem.. :) > > > > > On Unix, the `proper` way is for configuration files to be owned by > > > root - it's not a good idea to allow just anybody to change them! > > > > I Agree! My question was/is about the Source tree! > > You might consider simply adding yourself to the 'bin' group > (and setting the SGID bit on the directories). The default > configuration seems to leave the sources g+w and owned by > root.bin. > Awe, Add myself to bin.. Hmm, I didn't think this was ok being root itself is not included in bin. Is there something thats included in the Handbook or Book that explains what groups the SysAdmin (su) should be included in? I don't remember anything anywhere making suggestions for newbies on what groups they should include _themselves_ in. Current groups for myself. wheel:*:0:root,tcg operator:*:5:root,tcg staff:*:20:root,tcg guest:*:31:root,tcg Otherwise it's a stock 2.1r group file! > In a multi-user environment you should consider installing > tripwire and being particularly careful to monitor it for > source tree changes. Anyone who can get a simply change into > any source file -- and get 'root' to build it can effectively > take control of the entire system. (This is true of the system > binaries as well -- but more insidious). > Not a problem, There will be *NO_ONE* except myself with write privilages to the source tree! I just want to be able to do it without su'ing to root! -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 11:50:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA29550 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA29521 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:49:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA08579; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:46:43 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607021846.LAA08579@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Netware & Free To: jimd@mistery.mcafee.com (Jim Dennis) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:46:42 -0700 (MST) Cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, e9203125@pegasus.cpd.unb.br, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <201007020703.AAA22912@mistery.mcafee.com> from "Jim Dennis" at Jul 2, 96 05:10:31 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Linux -- look for 'ncpfs' (free) or get the Caldera > CND (Network Desktop) distribution which includes > bindery and NDS client support. The key developers > at Caldera were engineers in the advanced research > group at Novell before Ray Noorda left them. They have > lots of info about the inner workings of NCP (netware core > protocols) and the licenses to use that knowlege in > Caldera's products. Caldera's team also contributed some > of the IPX code back to the Linux community (in the spirit > of the GPL under which they're using it) Specifically, Brian Sparks, Gary Tomlinson, and Ted Cowan were the engineers on the original NUC (NetWare UNIX Client) product, and Brian Sparks and Drew Spencer (and I forget) were the engineers on the original PNW (Portable NetWare) product, which was later renamed to NWU (NetWare for UNIX). Brian Sparks is the founding father of Caldera, formerly the Novell "Corsair" project. It's been more than a year, so I think this qualifies as "history". Everybody else is still with Novell (or USL). NB: Contrary to what Steve Jobs says in his video, Novell came to him, he didn't come to Novell. NUC was the idea of a small number of very brilliant people at Novell, and not just the three lead engineers on the NUC code proper; it was developed on NeXT machines, but they had to go so far as to write their own streams to get it to work. Unless there was seperate licensing (which I don't think there was, since they are using bindery instead of directory services technology), their server requires that you copy files to it from a licensed Novell server before it is usable, since they don't have their own copies of slist/nlist/login/etc.. In all likelihood, they are probably at the NetWare 3.x level, and probably an abbreviated 3.x for all of that... Novell has a long history of grandfathering interfaces and a reluctance to throw out old technology (like some core teams we know.. ;-)). It would take an "act of God" to implement a full server because of the backward compatability issues back to NetWare 1.x. > I've got some people upstairs using ncpfs with > moderate success (some complain that the performance seems lacking > and they sometimes experience "glitches" -- but for convenient > interactive use it seems to fill the bill (I just wouldn't try to > use it in mission and time critical applications yet). I've looked at the NCPFS code. It is nowhere *near* the level of the NUC code (which I code reviewed before leaving Novell) after Steve Baumel (the SVR4.2 SMP VM designer) had gotton done with it. I estimate it would take 3-5 man years to get it to that level (unless they threw someone at it who had experience with serious kernel multithreading issues and FS design issues; I'd probably be "contaminated", unless Brian Sparks isn't -- in which case it would take about 1 man year; I could name 3 or 4 other people with enough familiarity with the NUC code where it might even take less time than that). > One of > my boxes runs Caldera. I've never had the slightest problem > with access Netware file servers under it. I havent' tried any > things special yet (re-exporting the mounted NCP directory via > NFS for example) Don't *ever* do this. You think NFS distributed cache coherency (basically, timer-based) is bad, you haven't seen anything yet. If this is an allowed configuration, it is an error in judgement on the part of Caldera. Regards, Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 11:55:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA29887 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:55:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA29878 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:55:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA08602; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:53:47 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607021853.LAA08602@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Bug in /bin/sh To: mike@networx.ie Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:53:46 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Michael Ryan" at Jul 2, 96 05:20:15 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Can anybody confirm that there is a bug in /bin/sh in FreeBSD v2.1, > which the following commands illustrate... [ ... ] I am suspicious of these lines: > test $1 = abc && { [ ... ] > there is no command called "there" & As far as I know, "there" isn't a command... I suspect the backgrounding is causing the function to return twice. The "&&" is odd. Shell bugs are being collected by Joerg Wunsch (joerg@freebsd.org), and he keeps threatening to fix them all in the problem report logs. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 11:56:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA29952 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:56:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA29947 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 11:56:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-5.ime.net [206.231.148.134]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA14570; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 14:56:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31D97110.738E@ime.net> Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 14:57:20 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard J Kuhns CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: src tree owners References: <199607021144.LAA01066@jraynard.demon.co.uk> <31D9552A.2988@ime.net> <199607021828.NAA21029@sparcmill.grauel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Richard J Kuhns wrote: > > Gary Chrysler writes: > > James Raynard wrote: > > > > > > > > Is it safe to chown the src tree so one can use it without > > > > > having to be su. > > > > > > > > > > Is there a `proper` way for this? > > > > > > > > Why? You have to be su to write to anything in there by default (and I > > > > know this from many personal experieneces forgetting to su to root before > > > > editing my kernel config :-). > > > > > > Erm, perhaps that was why he was asking? :-) > > > > > > > Thanks James.. :) > > > > > In any event, you have to be root to be able to *install* anything > > > you've built from the source tree, so there doesn't seem to be a great > > > deal of point in changing it. > > > > Yes, I understand the need to be root for install. No problem. > > But what about general editing of the source. > > I would like to make it so *I* don't have to su. > > It's very anoying to get into tweaking a source file, Go to save > > and it pops up `Read Only`! > > > > I know, su'ing first will solve that problem.. :) > > > > > On Unix, the `proper` way is for configuration files to be owned by > > > root - it's not a good idea to allow just anybody to change them! > > > > I Agree! My question was/is about the Source tree! > > FWIW, I do a "chgrp -R prog .; chmod -R g+w ." in /usr/src for every new > installation; "prog" is a group we created locally for those of us who like > to play with the source. > > I've been doing this since v2.0; it simplifies applying ctm updates, and > I've not encountered any problems so far. Thanks, I think this is more along the lines of what I want! With ONE user added to that group, ME! One question. Whats a good number to start with for adding groups? -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 12:02:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA00706 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:02:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00687 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:02:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id UAA08129; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 20:02:04 +0100 (BST) To: Arthur Krewat cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: pentium pro cpu's In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 Jul 1996 12:14:08 EDT." <31D94AD0.6252@fairchild.lmco.com> Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 20:02:03 +0100 Message-ID: <8127.836334123@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Arthur Krewat wrote in message ID <31D94AD0.6252@fairchild.lmco.com>: > Are Pentium Pro cpu's supported under FreeBSD 2.1 or higher? > > I am considering buying one for home, but I only run FreeBSD! You don't need any special support (unless you want a nice probe message for the processor type). FreeBSD 2.1 works fine on PPro machines to the best of my knowledge, and recent -stable versions even better :-) Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 12:08:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA01442 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:08:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from watson.grauel.com (watson.grauel.com [199.233.104.36]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA01431 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:08:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sparcmill.grauel.com (sparcmill.grauel.com [199.233.104.34]) by watson.grauel.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA07584; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 14:18:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by sparcmill.grauel.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA21703; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 14:08:03 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 14:08:03 -0500 From: rjk@sparcmill.grauel.com (Richard J Kuhns) Message-Id: <199607021908.OAA21703@sparcmill.grauel.com> To: tcg@ime.net Cc: Richard J Kuhns , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: src tree owners In-Reply-To: <31D97110.738E@ime.net> References: <199607021144.LAA01066@jraynard.demon.co.uk> <31D9552A.2988@ime.net> <199607021828.NAA21029@sparcmill.grauel.com> <31D97110.738E@ime.net> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gary Chrysler writes: > Thanks, I think this is more along the lines of what I want! You're welcome. > One question. > Whats a good number to start with for adding groups? You should be safe starting with 1000. I don't think I've ever seen a system with pre-defined group ids > 1000 (except for nogroup/nobody at 65533/4). -- Rich Kuhns rjk@grauel.com PO Box 6249 Tel: (317)477-6000 x319 100 Sawmill Road Lafayette, IN 47903 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 12:29:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA03047 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:29:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tombstone.sunrem.com (tombstone.sunrem.com [206.81.134.54]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA03039 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:29:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brandon@localhost) by tombstone.sunrem.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA25216; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 13:27:54 -0600 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 13:27:54 -0600 (MDT) From: Brandon Gillespie To: Terry Lambert cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Bug in /bin/sh In-Reply-To: <199607021853.LAA08602@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jul 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: > > test $1 = abc && { [..] > > The "&&" is odd. Not really, it is standard bourne shell (from the man pages): Control operators: & && ( ) ; ;; | || It acts as you suspect, so the following constructs would be equivalent (I've noticed that most of the ultrix boot scripts prefer the latter method): if [ -x "$file" ]; then if `$file`; then echo "oiy, it ran" fi fi Or: [ -x "$file" ] && { $file && echo "oiy, it ran" } -Brandon Gillespie From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 12:38:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA03743 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:38:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.conline.com (root@l2.conline.com [204.96.7.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA03734 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:38:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dal2-10.conline.com (dal2-10.conline.com [204.96.7.40]) by mail.conline.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA03508 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 16:46:00 -0500 Received: by dal2-10.conline.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BB6824.27796880@dal2-10.conline.com>; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 14:38:37 -0500 Message-ID: <01BB6824.27796880@dal2-10.conline.com> From: Thomas Shaw To: "'FreeBSD Mailing List'" Subject: Can someone unsubscribe me please. Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 14:38:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I can't get off the list I was sent this when i first subscribed. Welcome to the freebsd-questions mailing list! If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to "Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG" with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe freebsd-questions Thomas Mitchell Shaw III Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. But it keeps saying Thomas Mitchell Shaw isnt on the list.. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 12:45:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA04211 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:45:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from getnet.com (gn2.getnet.com [204.157.9.29]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA04203 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:45:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DaMachine.krackelpop (phx-ip2-99.getnet.com [206.85.129.99]) by getnet.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA28166 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:45:26 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <31D96BB5.73A2@getnet.com> Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 12:34:29 -0600 From: Ari Gold X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Triton III VX Chipset X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I was reading your web pages. I noticed that the best chipset is Triton II, and that it didn't mention the Triton III VX. I can get a chipset with the Triton III, is this better than the II? Thanks. -- Ari Gold arig@getnet.com http://www.getnet.com/~arig/ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 12:50:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA04408 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:50:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA04403 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:50:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA19798; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:48:33 -0700 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199607021948.MAA19798@MediaCity.com> Subject: Re: BitSurfr Pro --> Livingston 5-BRI at 128K? To: erich@ip.org (Eric L. Hinson) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199606300716.DAA01340@krypton.ip.org> from "Eric L. Hinson" at "Jun 30, 96 03:16:33 am" Reply-To: brian@MediaCity.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Eric L. Hinson wrote: > I am trying to establish a ~128k connection from a FreeBSD-stable machine > running user process ppp with a BitSurfr Pro to a BRI port on a Livingston > PortMaster. I have been successful at getting both 56k/async and > 64k/async connections, but have been unable to get both channels going > at the same time. My current connection allows my LAN at home to connect > to the ISP I maintain. > > Has someone out there got this to work? If so, could you please share yes, though I'm running -current. > with me how you accomplished this? I would like to establish the > highest speed/performance link possible with my configuration, and greatly > appreciate any and all help you can provide. Thanks for your help. # BitSurfer Pro 56K channels, MultiLink, Livingston Portmaster 2E bspro56mllv: set debug phase chat lcp lqm set device /dev/cuaa0 set speed 115200 set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" AT&F&C1&D3%A4=1@B0=2%A2= 95 OK-AT-OK \\dATD\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" deny lqr disable lqr disable pred1 deny pred1 set timeout 0 set phone 18006145600&18006145600 accept chap set authname MYAUTHNAME set authkey MYKEY set ifaddr 0 0 set openmode active dial add 0 0 HISADDR The change required to support 64K channels is trivial. -- Brian Litzinger Powered by FreeBSD http[s]://www.mpress.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 12:57:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA04791 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:57:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA04785 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:57:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA20157; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:56:10 -0700 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199607021956.MAA20157@MediaCity.com> Subject: Re: pentium pro cpu's To: angio@aros.net (Dave Andersen) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:56:10 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607021816.MAA06348@shell.aros.net> from Dave Andersen at "Jul 2, 96 12:16:23 pm" Reply-To: brian@MediaCity.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dave Andersen wrote: > Yes, they run very well. ftp.wcarchive.com runs on a pentium pro - see > the file 'config' in the base directory of cdrom.com. Which motherboards are people using successfully? brian > Lo and behold, Arthur Krewat once said: > > Are Pentium Pro cpu's supported under FreeBSD 2.1 or higher? > > > > I am considering buying one for home, but I only run FreeBSD! > > Arthur Krewat - krewat@fairchild.lmco.com -- Brian Litzinger Powered by FreeBSD http[s]://www.mpress.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 13:09:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA05533 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 13:09:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA05526 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 13:09:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id ai09581; 2 Jul 96 21:09 +0100 Received: from longacre.demon.co.uk ([158.152.156.24]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa17435; 2 Jul 96 19:04 +0100 From: Michael Searle Message-ID: To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: panic: free vnode isn't Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 16:03:31 BST X-Mailer: Offlite 0.09 / Termite Internet for Acorn RISC OS Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Running 2.1R, I got a crash, with th only information 'panic: free vnode isn't' in the log. I know what set this off, as I accidentally ran two /etc/daily scripts at the same time, the panic being in the middle of this. But there must be some other problem - when rebooting, fsck only found the usual 'unref file' type errors that it could put right automatically. Is there something wrong with my filesystem? I wasn't using any partition files, so I don't know why I am getting a vnode error. All of my partitions are read/write and sync, on one SCSI disk. -- Michael Searle - searle@longacre.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 14:17:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA00297 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 14:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from karon.dynas.se (karon.dynas.se [192.71.43.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA00290 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 14:17:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host.domain by karon.dynas.se with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0uanB6-000EV4C; Mon, 1 Jul 96 19:54:28 +0200 Received: by spirit.dynas.se (Smail3.1.28.1 #32) id m0uanB5-000JeaC; Mon, 1 Jul 96 19:54:27 +0200 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 19:54:27 +0200 (MET DST) From: Mikko Tyolajarvi To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Odd (?) ownership of symbolic links Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk To my surprise I just discovered that symbolic links inherit owner from the directory in which they are created. This happens on FreeBSD 2.1-RELEASE and the 2.2-960501-SNAP (but on no other OS I have tried it on, including FreeBSD 1.1.5). Thus: =09dumbo% cd /tmp =09dumbo% touch foo =09dumbo% ln -s foo bar =09dumbo% ls -l foo bar =09lrwxrwxrwt 1 bin bin 3 Jul 1 19:45 bar -> foo =09-rw-r--r-- 1 mikko bin 0 Jul 1 19:45 foo =09dumbo% rm foo bar =09rm: bar: Operation not permitted Of course, for directories without the "t"-bit, the link *can* be removed. I don't know whether this is a bug or an obscure feature, the purpose of which totally eludes me at the moment. =09=09/Mikko Mikko Ty=F6l=E4j=E4rvi_____________________________________________mikko@d= ynas.se DynaSoft From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 14:18:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA00331 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 14:18:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA00324 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 14:18:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wolf.riga.lv (wolf.riga.lv [194.8.12.90]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id OAA00277 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 14:17:56 -0700 Received: from stoat.riga.lv by wolf.riga.lv with SMTP id AA23108 (5.65.kiae-1 for ); Tue, 2 Jul 1996 23:57:56 +0300 Received: from irs.UUCP by stoat.riga.lv with UUCP id AA06829 (5.65.kiae-1 for questions@freebsd.org); Wed, 3 Jul 1996 00:02:59 +0300 Received: by irs.riga.lv (UUPC/extended 1.12r); Tue, 02 Jul 1996 22:40:18 +0200 Message-Id: <31d98932.irs@irs.riga.lv> Date: Tue, 2 Jul 96 22:40:17 +0200 From: Dmitry Solodov Subject: problems with SCSI HDDs To: questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: dima@irs.riga.lv X-Class: Fast X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] for OS/2 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, there is a big problem (at least for me) with SCSI HDDs. There is a PC with Adaptec AIC-7850 on board. There are three HDDs attached to the SCSI-2 bus: ID ---------------------------- 0 Conner CFP1080S (SCSI terminated) 1 Quantum Lightning 540S (SCSI not terminated) 2 Conner CFP2105S (SCSI not terminated) 7 AIC-7850 (SCSI terminated) When FreeBSD 2.1 is booted (I booted by means of install.bat/inst_ide.bat under DOS), it detects ahc0, waits "SCSI deviced to settle", then shows list of disks' data, and then displays about 10-15 copies of the string "ahc0: WARNING no command for scb 0" and goes to reboot. When the HDD with ID 2 or ID 1 is detached from the bus (by removing cabling), FreeBSD boots ok. Besides this I tried to insert/remove terminators on the HDDs, but the problem persists. Why does it work with 2 SCSI HDDs, but it does not operate with 3 ones ? Are there any hard-coded limitations ? The HDD with ID 2 was installed yesterday and there ar 3 partitions on it, first one is used by OS/2, on second one NT is installed, and 3rd was reserved for FreeBSD. The HDD works fine under those OS. So the hardware configuration seems to be proper. Could you please provide any possible solutions for the problem ? What do I miss ? Thanks in advance. Dima. -- Dmitry Solodov E-mail: dima@irs.riga.lv | fax. +371-7287659 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 14:27:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA01322 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 14:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.nctsw.navy.mil (firewall-user@gatekeeper.nctsw.navy.mil [138.145.4.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA01313 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 14:27:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve.Koch@smtpgw.nctsw.navy.mil Received: by gatekeeper.nctsw.navy.mil; id RAA22668; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:47:42 -0400 Received: from smtpgw.nctsw.navy.mil(138.145.16.4) by gatekeeper.nctsw.navy.mil via smap (g3.0.1) id sma022665; Mon, 1 Jul 96 17:47:27 -0400 Received: from ccMail by smtpgw.nctsw.navy.mil (IMA Internet Exchange 2.01 Enterprise) id 1D847250; Mon, 1 Jul 96 17:46:13 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:49:38 -0400 Message-ID: <1D847250.1289@smtpgw.nctsw.navy.mil> Subject: pop3 To: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I would like to setup a pop3 server on my freebsd box. I've never setup a pop server before. Any suggestions as to where I should start, ie faqs etc..? Thanks. Steve Koch skoch@smtpgw.nctsw.navy.mil From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 14:37:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA02088 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 14:37:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MelRose.crew.de (melrose.crew.de [192.76.156.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA02070 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 14:37:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by MelRose.Crew.DE with LocalMailer id m0uapvm-0002LWC; Mon, 1 Jul 96 22:50 MESZ; (Smail3.1.28.1) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 22:50:49 +0200 (MESZ) From: Ulf Schmidt X-Sender: us@melrose.crew.de To: Question freeBSD Subject: FreeBSD and 3COM 3c509 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello there, the web-handbook for FreeBSD has the following comment for the network-card from 3COM (3c509): device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 vector epintr 3Com 3C509 (buggy) Is this comment still valid, or has the 2.1.0-RELEASE a working driver? Regards, Ulf -- --> Ulf Schmidt - us@pop.de - +49 177 2519203 --> Point of Presence - Wendenstr. 309 - D-20537 Hamburg --> office: phone +49 40 25192025, fax +49 40 258194 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 14:38:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA02251 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 14:38:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from purcell.jlc.net (root@purcell.jlc.net [199.201.159.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA02244 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 14:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jason@localhost) by purcell.jlc.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA06260 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:38:46 -0400 From: "Jason T. Nelson" Message-Id: <199607022138.RAA06260@purcell.jlc.net> Subject: /etc/group problem To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:38:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I know this has been mentioned before as I have seen it in the mailing list archives, but unfortunately, either I didn't get all the replies or I'm missing something terribly obvious. Adduser is now complaining (as well as chown and ls) about invalid groups. jason@purcell> chown user.www userdirectory chown: www: illegal group name 'ls' chokes as well, spitting out only the numeric GID. The www group has gotten rather large, but isn't a 1024 character limit on a line in /etc/group a tad silly? -- Jason T Nelson From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 15:05:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA03998 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 15:05:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA03991 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 15:05:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ab01269; 2 Jul 96 22:04 GMT Received: from longacre.demon.co.uk ([158.152.156.24]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa17016; 2 Jul 96 22:03 +0100 From: Michael Searle Message-ID: To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: xperfmon++ port Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 21:55:49 BST X-Mailer: Offlite 0.09 / Termite Internet for Acorn RISC OS Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Where can I get the xperfmon++ port, for 2.1R, from? I can't find it in any of the ports directories on the freefall mirror sites. (I checked two sites, they were the same.) I know there is one because I have the package from the CD. -- Michael Searle - searle@longacre.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 15:18:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA04957 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 15:18:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA04938 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 15:18:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id XAA08529; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 23:17:43 +0100 (BST) To: Michael Searle cc: questions@freefall.freebsd.org From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: xperfmon++ port In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 Jul 1996 21:55:49 -0000." Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 23:17:42 +0100 Message-ID: <8526.836345862@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Michael Searle wrote in message ID : > Where can I get the xperfmon++ port, for 2.1R, from? I can't find it in any > of the ports directories on the freefall mirror sites. (I checked two sites, > they were the same.) I know there is one because I have the package from the > CD. ports/sysutils/xperfmon Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 15:27:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA05459 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 15:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tombstone.sunrem.com (tombstone.sunrem.com [206.81.134.54]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA05454 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 15:27:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brandon@localhost) by tombstone.sunrem.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA00554; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 16:27:05 -0600 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 16:27:04 -0600 (MDT) From: Brandon Gillespie To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: (more) motherboard problems .. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The motherboard is a Triton-I chipset with an intel pentium 100 processor. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 15:38:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA06087 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 15:38:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tombstone.sunrem.com (tombstone.sunrem.com [206.81.134.54]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA06082 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 15:38:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brandon@localhost) by tombstone.sunrem.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA00621 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 16:38:15 -0600 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 16:38:15 -0600 From: Brandon Gillespie Message-Id: <199607022238.QAA00621@tombstone.sunrem.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (more) motherboard problems .. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > The motherboard is a Triton-I chipset with an intel pentium 100 processor. I appologize for my braindead spam, wrong list. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 15:52:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA07358 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 15:52:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eng3.iastate.edu (eng3.iastate.edu [129.186.1.112]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA07349 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 15:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by eng3.iastate.edu with sendmail-5.65 id ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:52:00 -0500 Message-Id: <9607022252.AA15265@eng3.iastate.edu> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: It's a cool unix system and a couple of questions Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 17:52:00 CDT From: Babak Sehari Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I installed the freeBSD ver 2.1 it works fine, and I like it alot. I have a couple of about FreeBSD: 1. Does this version of unix has sysadm type manu interface for common sysadmin? 2. I can not run the programs in my directory, without typing: ./progname . Does not the system suppose to check the current directory before checking the path? How should I correct this problem? With highest regards, Babak E. Sehari P.S. I have written a good install program that makes the installation from an unsupported CDROM easy. Would you like me to send it to you? From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 16:05:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA08954 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 16:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from actcom.co.il (root@actcom.co.il [192.114.47.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA08920 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 16:05:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vipe.actcom.co.il by actcom.co.il with SMTP (8.6.12/actcom-0.1) id CAA19944 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 02:05:23 +0300 (rfc931-sender: vipe.actcom.co.il [192.114.47.21]) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960701230507.00729f28@mail.actcom.co.il> X-Sender: andi@mail.actcom.co.il X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 02:05:07 +0300 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Andi Gutmans Subject: Loopback mounts Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Does FreeBSD do loopback directory mounts ala SunOS? I mean like mount -t lo /local/mail /var/spool/mail And one more questions :) Is there an FAQ or HOWTO for IPX someplace? I haven't been able to find one on www.freebsd.org Thanks a bunch, Andi Gutmans From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 16:26:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA12207 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 16:26:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jbrann.dialup.access.net (jbrann.dialup.access.net [166.84.193.118]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA12192 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 16:26:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jbrann@localhost) by jbrann.dialup.access.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA00273; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 19:31:40 -0400 Message-Id: <199607022331.TAA00273@jbrann.dialup.access.net> Subject: Re: Missing File - libc.s0.3.0 - help! To: ajohn@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us (Anil John) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 19:31:39 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org (freeq) In-Reply-To: <01BB6784.01B05D20@ppp93.bcpl.lib.md.us> from Anil John at "Jul 1, 96 07:32:10 pm" From: John Brann Reply-To: John Brann Organisation: Not while I'm at home X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL13 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anil John wrote... [...deleted...] > > Absolutely right... I was running fvwm from the 2.2 snap CD. I fixed that > (went and got the fvwm from the 2.1R CD), but I still get a message: > > fvwm: can't open display. > > Anil > > Not an error I'd expect. You are running X first, aren't you? The window manager has to be started after the X server, traditionally in the .xsession (if using xdm) or .xinitrc (if using 'startx') file. If that's not the problem, try setting the environment variable DISPLAY explicitly to 'localhost:0'. If that works, we'll find a way around the problem! John -- Beavis and Butt-Head; Vladimir and Estragon for the '90s. finger jbrann@panix.com for pgp public key From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 16:30:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA12631 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 16:30:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail (mail.bcpl.lib.md.us [204.255.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA12626 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 16:30:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp92.bcpl.lib.md.us by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA10964; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 19:30:59 +0500 Received: by ppp92.bcpl.lib.md.us with Microsoft Mail id <01BB684D.12FD9600@ppp92.bcpl.lib.md.us>; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 19:31:32 -0400 Message-Id: <01BB684D.12FD9600@ppp92.bcpl.lib.md.us> From: Anil John To: "'Sean Kelly'" Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: Missing File - libc.s0.3.0 - help! Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 19:31:30 -0400 Encoding: 12 TEXT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sean Kelly[SMTP:kelly@fsl.noaa.gov] wrote: >To use fvwm: > >1. cp /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc $HOME/.xinitrc >2. Edit $HOME/.xinitrc and change the line that says `twm &' to `fvwm &' >3. Save the file. Type startx. > Thank you Sean... I appreciate the detailed help... Anil From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 16:31:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA12752 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 16:31:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA12744 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 16:31:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id AAA08853; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 00:31:25 +0100 (BST) To: mike@networx.ie cc: FreeBSD Support From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: security mailing lists In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 Jul 1996 15:10:35 -0000." Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 00:31:23 +0100 Message-ID: <8851.836350283@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Michael Ryan wrote in message ID : > Please, how do I subscribe to > security@freebsd.org > and > security-notification@freebsd.org Try running the following commands: echo "subscribe freebsd-security" | mail majordomo@freebsd.org echo "subscribe freebsd-security-notifications" | mail majordomo@freebsd.org Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 16:44:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA13486 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 16:44:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA13480 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 16:44:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id AAA08917; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 00:42:39 +0100 (BST) To: Andi Gutmans cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Loopback mounts In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 Jul 1996 02:05:07 +0300." <2.2.32.19960701230507.00729f28@mail.actcom.co.il> Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 00:42:38 +0100 Message-ID: <8915.836350958@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Andi Gutmans wrote in message ID <2.2.32.19960701230507.00729f28@mail.actcom.co.il>: > Hi, > > Does FreeBSD do loopback directory mounts ala SunOS? > I mean like mount -t lo /local/mail /var/spool/mail You can do localhost mounts with NFS, but no loopback mounts as (to date) the nullfs in FreeBSD is broken. Before you ask: yes, it is being worked on, and should (hopefully) be fixed in 2.2, which is due out about the end of the year. > And one more questions :) > Is there an FAQ or HOWTO for IPX someplace? I haven't been able to find one > on www.freebsd.org Not that I know of. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 17:01:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA14116 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:01:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail (mail.bcpl.lib.md.us [204.255.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA14111 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:00:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp92.bcpl.lib.md.us (ppp110.bcpl.lib.md.us) by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA13687; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 20:01:04 +0500 Received: by ppp92.bcpl.lib.md.us with Microsoft Mail id <01BB6851.461D8500@ppp92.bcpl.lib.md.us>; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 20:01:36 -0400 Message-Id: <01BB6851.461D8500@ppp92.bcpl.lib.md.us> From: Anil John To: "'John Brann'" Cc: freeq Subject: RE: Missing File - libc.s0.3.0 - help! Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 20:01:34 -0400 Encoding: 12 TEXT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk John Brann[SMTP:jbrann@panix.com] wrote: > >Not an error I'd expect. You are running X first, aren't you? The >window manager has to be started after the X server, traditionally in the >.xsession (if using xdm) or .xinitrc (if using 'startx') file. > John, That was indeed the problem . Still learning about UNIX :) Anil From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 17:14:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA14511 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:14:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cbgw1.att.com (cbgw1.att.com [192.20.239.133]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA14506 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:14:29 -0700 (PDT) From: gtc@aloft.att.com Received: by cbig1.att.att.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.2 sol2) id UAA19528; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 20:09:55 -0400 To: us@pop.de Cc: questions@freebsd.org Received: from aloft (aloft.cnet.att.com) by aluxpo (4.1/DCS-aluxpo-M4.3) id AA18901; Tue, 2 Jul 96 20:14:18 EDT Received: from stargazer (stargazer.cnet.att.com) by aloft (4.1/DCS-aloft-M5.1) id AA19647; Tue, 2 Jul 96 20:14:21 EDT Received: by stargazer (4.1/DCS-aloft_client-S2.1) id AA03912; Tue, 2 Jul 96 20:14:15 EDT Date: Tue, 2 Jul 96 20:14:15 EDT Original-From: aluxpo!aloft!gtc (gary.corcoran) Message-Id: <9607030014.AA03912@stargazer> Original-To: pop.de!us Subject: Re: FreeBSD and 3COM 3c509 Original-Cc: freebsd.org!questions Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >the web-handbook for FreeBSD has the following comment for the network-card >from 3COM (3c509): >device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 vector epintr > > 3Com 3C509 (buggy) > >Is this comment still valid, or has the 2.1.0-RELEASE a working driver? I use a 3Com 3C579 on 2.1.0-RELEASE, which uses the same driver as the 3C509. I haven't noticed any problems with it. Note, however, that there is very little traffic on my LAN, so I don't know how good or bad it works under a lot of stress. Any other users of this card care to comment? Gary From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 17:33:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA15057 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:33:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA15051 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:33:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id ab29622; 3 Jul 96 1:33 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa28475; 3 Jul 96 0:12 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00658; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 20:08:03 GMT Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 20:08:03 GMT Message-Id: <199607022008.UAA00658@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: jimd@mistery.mcafee.com CC: tcg@ime.net, dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <201007021826.LAA23381@mistery.mcafee.com> (message from Jim Dennis on Fri, 2 Jul 110 11:26:09 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: src tree owners Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > On Unix, the `proper` way is for configuration files to be owned by > > > root - it's not a good idea to allow just anybody to change them! > > > > I Agree! My question was/is about the Source tree! I originally wrote "critical files such as source code or configuration files", then changed my mind and deleted the wrong bit. Sorry about that :-( > You might consider simply adding yourself to the 'bin' group Yep, just edit /etc/group. > (and setting the SGID bit on the directories). The default Actually, there's no need to set the SGID bit on the directories, as BSD systems automatically pass the group ownership on to any new sub-directories created in the current directory - see mkdir(2). > configuration seems to leave the sources g+w and owned by > root.bin. Something that just occurred to me - doesn't some network backup software require a .rhosts file for the user "bin"? If so, doesn't this leave the system source code potentially vulnerable? > In a multi-user environment you should consider installing > tripwire and being particularly careful to monitor it for > source tree changes. Anyone who can get a simply change into > any source file -- and get 'root' to build it can effectively > take control of the entire system. (This is true of the system > binaries as well -- but more insidious). Very true. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 17:36:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA15487 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ceres.kingston.ac.uk (ceres.king.ac.uk [141.241.4.25]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA15474 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607030036.RAA15474@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: from kingston.ac.uk by ceres.kingston.ac.uk id <09260-0@ceres.kingston.ac.uk>; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 01:34:56 +0100 Subject: Need 2.1.0 on CD am in UK To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 01:34:52 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text From: Mark King Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am trying to get hold of FreeBSD 2.1.0 on CD to install for I386. I am in the UK and would like to know of a company that distributes it please. Thanks in advance. Mark -- --------------------------------------------------- .oO Mark Oo. Kingston University - k945278@atlas.king.ac.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 17:46:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA17101 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:46:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.calweb.com (mail.calweb.com [165.90.138.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA17094 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:46:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from calweb.calweb.com (calweb.calweb.com [165.90.138.3]) by mail.calweb.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA04635; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web1.calweb.com (rdugaue@web1.calweb.com [165.90.138.10]) by calweb.calweb.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA28094; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 00:43:01 GMT Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:43:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Du Gaue To: gtc@aloft.att.com cc: us@pop.de, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and 3COM 3c509 In-Reply-To: <9607030014.AA03912@stargazer> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I use a 3Com 3C579 on 2.1.0-RELEASE, which uses the same driver as the > 3C509. I haven't noticed any problems with it. Note, however, that > there is very little traffic on my LAN, so I don't know how good or bad > it works under a lot of stress. Any other users of this card care to > comment? The driver(s) and the 3Com-3c509 do not perform well under stress at all. Trust me, I just put a 12 gig file server up and forgot to pull out the 3c509 card we use as a spare/test card. We use all PCI SMC cards and the DE0 interface for all our heavy duty machines and have never had a problem directly related to that interface/card. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Du Gaue - rdugaue@calweb.com http://www.calweb.com President, CalWeb Internet Services Inc. (916) 641-9320 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 17:47:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA17181 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:47:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ferrari.sfu.ca (ferrari.sfu.ca [142.58.110.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA17173 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:47:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fraser.sfu.ca (mcquiggi@fraser.sfu.ca [142.58.110.2]) by ferrari.sfu.ca with SMTP (8.7.1/SFU-2.6H) id RAA22473 for (from mcquiggi@sfu.ca); Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:47:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin McQuiggin Received: by fraser.sfu.ca (8.6.12/SFU-2.6C) id AAA17572 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (from mcquiggi@sfu.ca); Wed, 3 Jul 1996 00:47:11 GMT Message-Id: <199607030047.AAA17572@fraser.sfu.ca> Subject: Looking for libtiff.so.3.3 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:47:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi All: Thanks to Doug White for his quick reply to my last question. I am still trying to locate the libs for xpaint. Now it needs libtiff.so.3.3. Which package is this one in? Sorry to do this one by one, but is there a way to see which libs the app needs all at once? Then I could ask for em all at the same time. I did find libXpm as directed last time. I've tried "strings xpaint | grep lib" etc but no info of value re this question. Kevin -- Kevin McQuiggin VE7ZD mcquiggi@sfu.ca From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 18:32:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA23269 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 18:32:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.via.net (ns.via.net [140.174.204.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA23261 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 18:32:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from joe@localhost) by ns.via.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA10824 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 18:32:21 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 18:32:21 -0700 From: Joe McGuckin Message-Id: <199607030132.SAA10824@ns.via.net> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: SUID scanner? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk A long, long time ago my system used to send mail to me about SUID programs it found on the system. What program/script is this? -joe From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 18:33:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA23361 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 18:33:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA23347 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 18:33:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-6.ime.net [206.231.148.135]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA14514; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 21:32:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31D9CDBA.1E3C@ime.net> Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 21:32:43 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Raynard CC: jimd@mistery.mcafee.com, dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: src tree owners References: <199607022008.UAA00658@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk James Raynard wrote: > > > > > On Unix, the `proper` way is for configuration files to be owned by > > > > root - it's not a good idea to allow just anybody to change them! > > > > > > I Agree! My question was/is about the Source tree! > > I originally wrote "critical files such as source code or > configuration files", then changed my mind and deleted the wrong bit. > Sorry about that :-( > > > You might consider simply adding yourself to the 'bin' group > > Yep, just edit /etc/group. > > > (and setting the SGID bit on the directories). The default > > Actually, there's no need to set the SGID bit on the directories, as > BSD systems automatically pass the group ownership on to any new > sub-directories created in the current directory - see mkdir(2). > > > configuration seems to leave the sources g+w and owned by > > root.bin. > > Something that just occurred to me - doesn't some network backup > software require a .rhosts file for the user "bin"? If so, doesn't > this leave the system source code potentially vulnerable? > > > In a multi-user environment you should consider installing > > tripwire and being particularly careful to monitor it for > > source tree changes. Anyone who can get a simply change into > > any source file -- and get 'root' to build it can effectively > > take control of the entire system. (This is true of the system > > binaries as well -- but more insidious). > > Very true. I'm soaking up the knowledge and enjoying it.. :) Thanks. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 18:41:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA24359 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 18:41:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA24349 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 18:41:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id CAA09364; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 02:40:44 +0100 (BST) To: Joe McGuckin cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: SUID scanner? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 Jul 1996 18:32:21 PDT." <199607030132.SAA10824@ns.via.net> Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 02:40:40 +0100 Message-ID: <9361.836358040@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Joe McGuckin wrote in message ID <199607030132.SAA10824@ns.via.net>: > > A long, long time ago my system used to send mail to me about SUID > programs it found on the system. > What program/script is this? /etc/security, which is run from /etc/daily. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 19:05:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA26926 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 19:05:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA26917 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 19:05:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA06048; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 19:05:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607030205.TAA06048@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Arthur Krewat cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pentium pro cpu's In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 Jul 1996 12:14:08 EDT." <31D94AD0.6252@fairchild.lmco.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@root.com Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 19:05:39 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Are Pentium Pro cpu's supported under FreeBSD 2.1 or higher? > >I am considering buying one for home, but I only run FreeBSD! Yes, but they are recognized as just "Pentium"...no problems otherwise. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 19:22:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA28890 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 19:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA28876 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 19:22:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ab02463; 3 Jul 96 2:22 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa01599; 2 Jul 96 0:46 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA03361; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 22:32:32 GMT Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 22:32:32 GMT Message-Id: <199607012232.WAA03361@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: wollman@lcs.mit.edu CC: lray@aurora.liunet.edu, QUESTIONS@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <9607012010.AA10672@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> (message from Garrett Wollman on Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:10:24 -0400) Subject: Re: KERBEROS? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >> I'm trying to install the server version of Kerberos5-beta6 on my FreeBSD > >> 2.1.0 machine. The documentation clearly states that a bug in the sed command > > > This is already available in the FreeBSD distribution as 'eBones' - > > there's even a handbook entry on how to set it up. > > No, it is not. Read the message carefully. I did. > `lray' specifically said `Kerberos 5'. Yes, I noticed that. > eBones is Kerberos 4. There is not now, and probably > never will be, a free implementation of Kerberos 5 available outside > the US and Canada. Ah, I wasn't aware of that. I did look in the handbook, but it just mentioned 'kerberos', without any further qualification (this was the 2.1.0-RELEASE version of the handbook - presumably this has since been clarified?) Thanks for the correction. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 20:22:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA08519 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 20:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ferrari.sfu.ca (ferrari.sfu.ca [142.58.110.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA08513 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 20:22:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fraser.sfu.ca (mcquiggi@fraser.sfu.ca [142.58.110.2]) by ferrari.sfu.ca with SMTP (8.7.1/SFU-2.6H) id UAA06339 for (from mcquiggi@sfu.ca); Tue, 2 Jul 1996 20:22:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin McQuiggin Received: by fraser.sfu.ca (8.6.12/SFU-2.6C) id DAA18245 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (from mcquiggi@sfu.ca); Wed, 3 Jul 1996 03:22:15 GMT Message-Id: <199607030322.DAA18245@fraser.sfu.ca> Subject: Re: Looking for libtiff.so.3.3 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 20:22:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <199607030047.AAA17572@fraser.sfu.ca> from "Kevin McQuiggin" at Jul 2, 96 05:47:11 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Cancel this, I found the library on the CD. Too bad there aren't more X docs to assist in things like this. Kevin > > Hi All: > > Thanks to Doug White for his quick reply to my last question. I am > still trying to locate the libs for xpaint. Now it needs > libtiff.so.3.3. Which package is this one in? > > Sorry to do this one by one, but is there a way to see which libs the > app needs all at once? Then I could ask for em all at the same time. > I did find libXpm as directed last time. > > I've tried "strings xpaint | grep lib" etc but no info of value re > this question. > > Kevin > > -- > Kevin McQuiggin VE7ZD > mcquiggi@sfu.ca > -- Kevin McQuiggin VE7ZD mcquiggi@sfu.ca From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 21:51:53 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA28048 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 21:51:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ktnet (ktnet.ktnet.co.kr [203.248.73.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA28018 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 21:51:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sphere.ktnet.co.kr (sphere.ktnet.co.kr [203.248.73.96]) by ktnet (SMI-8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA05580 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:50:24 +0900 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960703045135.00696100@ktnet.co.kr> X-Sender: geoid@ktnet.co.kr X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 13:51:35 +0900 To: questions@freebsd.org From: "Jun, Gyu-Chang" Subject: Anon. ftp configuration Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, world.. I have encounter a problem in ftpd configuration. My anon. ftpd's home is /usr/ftp. and due to disk capacity, I have to link some dirctory in another HDD which is mounted as /sd0. But, because ftpd process has chrooted to /usr/ftp, it can not see /sd0. Is there some ways to solve this problem? Thanks in advance.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Korea Trade Network. Communication Business Team. Tech. Staff ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 22:19:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA01696 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 22:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA01685 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 22:19:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA13009; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 07:19:08 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <199607030519.HAA13009@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: IPX routing To: andi@actcom.co.il (Andi Gutmans) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 07:19:08 +0200 (SAT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960701183322.006fc9c4@mail.actcom.co.il> from Andi Gutmans at "Jul 1, 96 09:33:22 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL16 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hey, > > Has anyone used FreeBSD successfully as an ipx gateway? I've been using a > linux machine to act as a gateway for a 16 pc novel farm, so the linux > machine does both the ipx and tcp/ip forwarding. Can FreeBSD do the same > with IPX? What version supports it? > You will need FreeBSD-current. It does work although there is some problems with Win95 that sends odd length packets. Just remember to: give all the interfaces ipx addresses with the ifconfig command. switch ipx routing on with the sysctl variable "net.ipx.ipx.ipxforwarding". And run IPXrouted to exchange ipx RIP and SAP information. John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 22:41:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA04456 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 22:41:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cerberos.nswcc.org.au (cerberos.nswcc.org.au [203.9.71.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA04443 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 22:41:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by cerberos.nswcc.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA02413 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:40:56 +1000 Received: from pluto.nswcc.org.au(203.9.70.1) by cerberos.nswcc.org.au via smap (V1.3) id sma002409; Wed Jul 3 15:40:45 1996 Received: from mars.nswcc.org.au (mars.nswcc.org.au [203.9.68.103]) by moredun.nswcc.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA16059 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:40:31 +1000 Message-Id: <199607030540.PAA16059@moredun.nswcc.org.au> X-Sender: ericc@mail.nswcc.org.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 15:40:22 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Eric Chan Subject: A simple question??? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I just want to know if a software is running on BSDI x86 v2.0, could that be running on FreeBSD v2.0 platform? Thank you. Eric From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 22:42:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA04603 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 22:42:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts10-line9.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.107]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA04590 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 22:42:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA00233; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 22:42:09 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 22:42:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: "Jun, Gyu-Chang" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Anon. ftp configuration In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960703045135.00696100@ktnet.co.kr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 Jul 1996, Jun, Gyu-Chang wrote: > I have encounter a problem in ftpd configuration. > > My anon. ftpd's home is /usr/ftp. and due to disk capacity, I have to > link some dirctory in another HDD which is mounted as /sd0. > > But, because ftpd process has chrooted to /usr/ftp, it can not see /sd0. > > Is there some ways to solve this problem? Mount sd0 under /usr/ftp, and make a symlink to /sd0. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 22:57:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA06690 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 22:57:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.210.193]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA06685 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 22:57:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tom@localhost) by misery.sdf.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) id XAA02214 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 23:06:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 23:06:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Samplonius Message-Id: <199607030606.XAA02214@misery.sdf.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: amd Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone have an example of how to use amd to automatically mount a removable SCSI disk using amd? I having trouble making a map that doesn't hang any process that accesses the mount directory. Tom From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 23:06:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA07372 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 23:06:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts10-line9.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.107]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA07362 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 23:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA00284; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 23:06:48 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 23:06:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Babak Sehari cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: It's a cool unix system and a couple of questions In-Reply-To: <9607022252.AA15265@eng3.iastate.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jul 1996, Babak Sehari wrote: > 1. Does this version of unix has sysadm type manu interface for common > sysadmin? Not currently. There have been some rumblings regarding getting such a system together, though, but don't hold your breath. > 2. I can not run the programs in my directory, without typing: > ./progname . Does not the system suppose to check the current > directory before checking the path? How should I correct this > problem? That is perfectly normal. If you really can't put up with it, edit .cshrc or .profile (depending on your shell) and modify the path to put the current directory '.' in there. DO NOT DO THIS FOR ROOT, IT IS A SECURITY HAZARD. > P.S. I have written a good install program that makes the installation > from an unsupported CDROM easy. Would you like me to send it to > you? Hm. Does it just copy the files from the CD to the appropriate DOS dirs? I can see that as useful. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 23:11:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA07765 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 23:11:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts10-line9.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.107]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA07758 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 23:11:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA00301; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 23:11:13 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 23:11:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Kevin McQuiggin cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Looking for libtiff.so.3.3 In-Reply-To: <199607030047.AAA17572@fraser.sfu.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jul 1996, Kevin McQuiggin wrote: > Thanks to Doug White for his quick reply to my last question. I am > still trying to locate the libs for xpaint. Now it needs > libtiff.so.3.3. Which package is this one in? tiff-x.y.z.tgz :-) in /packages/graphics I would guess. Why don't you install the xpaint package and let the package installer install all the auxiliary programs for you? It would save you quite a bit of hassle. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 23:14:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA08115 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 23:14:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts10-line9.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.107]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA08106 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 23:14:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA00308; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 23:14:15 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 23:14:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Mark King cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need 2.1.0 on CD am in UK In-Reply-To: <199607030036.RAA15474@freefall.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 Jul 1996, Mark King wrote: > I am trying to get hold of FreeBSD 2.1.0 on CD to install for I386. > > I am in the UK and would like to know of a company that distributes it please. Walnut Creek should ship overseas. If you wait a bit 2.1.5 will be out. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 23:25:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA09003 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 23:25:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA08997 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 23:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id XAA09982; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 23:23:03 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607030623.XAA09982@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: A simple question??? To: Eric.Chan@nswcc.org.au (Eric Chan) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 23:23:03 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199607030540.PAA16059@moredun.nswcc.org.au> from "Eric Chan" at Jul 3, 96 03:40:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I just want to know if a software is running on BSDI x86 v2.0, could > that be running on FreeBSD v2.0 platform? No. You would have to upgrade to 2.1-stable, or wait for the upcoming 2.1.5 release to run BSDI 2.0 binaries. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 2 23:36:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA09896 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 23:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts10-line9.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.107]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA09891 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 23:36:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA00333; Tue, 2 Jul 1996 23:36:33 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 23:36:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Michael Searle cc: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: xperfmon++ port In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 2 Jul 1996, Michael Searle wrote: > Where can I get the xperfmon++ port, for 2.1R, from? I can't find it in any > of the ports directories on the freefall mirror sites. (I checked two sites, > they were the same.) I know there is one because I have the package from the > CD. xperfmon isn't where you think it is. It's in ports/sysutils, not ports/x11. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 00:11:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA12489 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 00:11:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from border.tullverket.se (border.tullverket.se [194.17.59.94]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA12478 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 00:11:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by border.tullverket.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA14757 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 09:11:06 +0200 Received: from mail.tullverket.se(194.17.59.98) by border.tullverket.se via smap (V1.3) id sma014755; Wed Jul 3 09:10:31 1996 Received: from lua20 by mail.tullverket.se (8.6.12) id JAA22466; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 09:10:10 +0200 Received: by lua20 (8.6.12) id JAA06177; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 09:10:32 +0200 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 09:10:32 +0200 From: Per Hannlov Message-Id: <9607030910.ZM6175@lua20> X-Mailer: Z-Mail Lite (3.2.0 5jul94) To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Problems with FreeBSD Installation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello ! I'm Per Hannlov, Lulea, Sweden. I've got problems with FreeBSD installation. Wrong there is no problems with the installation, but after. I have a "Taiwan PC", 8 MB RAM, Conner 1275 Mb, Promise EIDE controller, SB 16 Soundblaster with Mitsuma 2X Cd-Rom and Cardex Cobra Grafik card. I have also a network card installed, which is software setup with irq 10 and address 340. Here is a briefing: I started to boot on the floppy installation disk -->> No problem. Then from the menu, I choosed the Novice install. And the installation software created the Unix partition. Then started the copy from CD to harddisk ---->> No problem. I was prompted some qestions and I answered them. BUT when I boot the PC, bootmanger prompts me to choose F1,F... If I choose to boot FreBSD and press enter for default values, The PC "dives". The only thing I can se is the pipe (|) sign. I have tried a lots of different ways of installing FreeBSD. 1. I let the DOS 850 Mb partition come first and then the FreeBSD partition. 2. Then I let the Unix partion come first and the DOS second. 3. Then I let the first (1 MB) of the disk be a DOS partition and installed a dev (201 MB) directly after that DOS partition. 4. I have of course tried to install only a FreeBSD partition without a DOS partiotion. 5. Mostly I've used the develope installation (201 Mb) alternative but other choises where also tested -->> the smallest 52 MB with only default values 6. In the boot sequense I've tried the -c and the wd(0,a)/kernel -c flag. But all I can see is that pipesign. If the floppy boot or the installation failed. I could live with that and throw the FreeBSD away. But when I am as close as now, there should be an answer that solves my problem. I am very gratefull (wrong spelling ?) and I look forward to an answer of what have showed to be a life task. E-Mail: per.hannlov@tullverket.se -- Per Hannlöv From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 01:10:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA16058 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 01:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA16018 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 01:09:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-19.ime.net [206.231.148.148]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id EAA05544; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 04:08:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31DA2AAC.4978@ime.net> Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 04:09:17 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Per Hannlov CC: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Problems with FreeBSD Installation References: <9607030910.ZM6175@lua20> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Per Hannlov wrote: > > Hello ! > I'm Per Hannlov, Lulea, Sweden. > I've got problems with FreeBSD installation. Wrong there is no problems > with the installation, but after. > > I have a "Taiwan PC", 8 MB RAM, Conner 1275 Mb, Promise EIDE controller, > SB 16 Soundblaster with Mitsuma 2X Cd-Rom and Cardex Cobra Grafik card. > I have also a network card installed, which is software setup with > irq 10 and address 340. > > Here is a briefing: > I started to boot on the floppy installation disk -->> No problem. > Then from the menu, I choosed the Novice install. > And the installation software created the Unix partition. > Then started the copy from CD to harddisk ---->> No problem. > I was prompted some qestions and I answered them. > > BUT when I boot the PC, bootmanger prompts me to choose F1,F... > If I choose to boot FreBSD and press enter for default values, The > PC "dives". The only thing I can se is the pipe (|) sign. > > I have tried a lots of different ways of installing FreeBSD. > > 1. I let the DOS 850 Mb partition come first and then the FreeBSD > partition. > 2. Then I let the Unix partion come first and the DOS second. > 3. Then I let the first (1 MB) of the disk be a DOS partition > and installed a dev (201 MB) directly after that DOS partition. > 4. I have of course tried to install only a FreeBSD partition > without a DOS partiotion. > 5. Mostly I've used the develope installation (201 Mb) alternative > but other choises where also tested -->> the smallest 52 MB > with only default values > 6. In the boot sequense I've tried the -c and the wd(0,a)/kernel -c > flag. But all I can see is that pipesign. > > If the floppy boot or the installation failed. I could live with > that and throw the FreeBSD away. But when I am as close as now, > there should be an answer that solves my problem. > I am very gratefull (wrong spelling ?) and I look forward to > an answer of what have showed to be a life task. > > E-Mail: per.hannlov@tullverket.se > > -- > Per Hannlöv Welp, My understanding is that there is a problem between the Promise controller and FreeBSD, I _belive_ you must disable the Promise bios to get around it! Also (It looks like you have NOTHING VALUABLE on the disk, So) to be on the safe side re-fdisk your drive with dos to Zap any possiable leftovers.. I'm sure somebody will correct me if I am wrong, As well as improve upon the problem. :) -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 02:02:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA19947 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 02:02:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from teil.soft.net (tata_elxsi.soft.net [164.164.10.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA19932 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 02:02:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by teil.soft.net via SMTP (920330.SGI/920502.SGI.JF) for questions@FreeBSD.org id AA01026; Wed, 3 Jul 96 14:31:44 -0800 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:31:44 -0800 (PST) From: "K.V.S. Sankaram" To: questions@FreeBSD.org Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The two ioctl() macros SIOCGARP and SIOCSARP are not defined in any of the include files. How to get the ethernet hardware address without these macros ? Even Richard Stevens' book avoided mentioning these macros. Is there any other way to get the hardware address ? In fact, the above mentioned macros(with SS_ prefix, i.e., SS_SIOCGARP, etc.) were found defined in a file: /usr/src/sys/i386/ibcs2/ibcs2_socksys.h When I included the above file and compiled my code it was pointing out error in the include file. Any takers ? From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 02:10:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA20323 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 02:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from skeg.cst.com.au (skeg.cst.com.au [203.61.252.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA20294 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 02:09:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bala@localhost) by skeg.cst.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.11) id TAA01628 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 19:09:55 +1000 From: Bala Periasamy Message-Id: <199607030909.TAA01628@skeg.cst.com.au> Subject: Majordomo problem (help) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 19:09:55 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Running FreeBSD 2.1.0 Majordomo 1.93 syslog error: swap_pager: out of space Process 192 killed by vm_fault -- out of swap pid 196: perl: uid 54: exited on signal 11 mail returned with the following error Message delivered to mailing list majordomo Out of memory! Killed 554 "|/usr/home/majordom/wrapper majordomo"... unknown mailer error 137 Any help on this will be useful thanx bala From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 02:15:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA20863 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 02:15:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from skeg.cst.com.au (skeg.cst.com.au [203.61.252.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA20851 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 02:15:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bala@localhost) by skeg.cst.com.au (8.6.12/8.6.11) id TAA02154 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 19:15:41 +1000 From: Bala Periasamy Message-Id: <199607030915.TAA02154@skeg.cst.com.au> Subject: majordomo (help) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 19:15:41 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I had forgot to specify the version of perl used: perl 4.0 patch level: 36 Running FreeBSD 2.1.0 Majordomo 1.93 syslog error: swap_pager: out of space Process 192 killed by vm_fault -- out of swap pid 196: perl: uid 54: exited on signal 11 mail returned with the following error Message delivered to mailing list majordomo Out of memory! Killed 554 "|/usr/home/majordom/wrapper majordomo"... unknown mailer error 137 Any help on this will be useful thanx bala ----- End of forwarded message from bala ----- --TAA01959.836385226/skeg.cst.com.au-- ----- End of forwarded message from Mail Delivery Subsystem ----- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 02:49:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA28055 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 02:49:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ref.tfs.com ([206.245.251.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA28050 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 02:49:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by ref.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA28266 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 02:49:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0ubNTd-000QbTC; Wed, 3 Jul 96 10:40 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id KAA24423; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 10:34:57 +0200 Message-Id: <199607030834.KAA24423@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1 Help To: skrishna@cisco.com (Sridhar Krishnan) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 10:34:57 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: from "Sridhar Krishnan" at Jun 28, 96 06:34:27 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sridhar Krishnan writes: > > > I purchased and installed FreeBSD 2.1 from Walnut Creek CD-ROM. I need > help on the following items: > > 1. I configured the serial port 1 (which has a built in modem) for the > IRQ4 and i/o address of 0x3e8 (as per BIOS 03E8h). The new kernel > recognizes the port. However, when I use /dev/cuaa0 it does not work.For > example, I tried echo ATDT11111 >/dev/cuaa0. The modem should atleast be > off the hook and I should here a dial-tone. No. Also, ppp seems to hang. > I had the ppp.conf in /etc/ppp directory configured to use this device. > No go. I don't know if this should work. I personally use cu for this sort of thing $ cu -s 38400 -l /dev/cuaa0 This will have you talking directly to the modem (and later on to whoever you dial up). To get things working properly, look at the section on Basic Networking in the online handbook. > 2. I am getting UnixSocket error after I boot. So, I am unable to ping > localhost. I'd need more information on this one. The exact error message, for example. You should be able to ping localhost after entering # ifconfig lo0 127.1 > 3. I have a Trident SVGA card on PCI motherboard with Linear Accelerator > and 1MB of VRAM, and I tried configuring for X86_SVGA and it errors with > chipset did not recognize xxx address. I should be able to use SVGA with > 256 colors (like Windows does). I'd guess that xf86config has the same problem that I do: not enough information. Did you tell it the correct chip set? > 4. Sections of Handbook on-line are incomplete like Serial (which is > marked with *). Is this right ? No. But it's the way it is. The handbook is put together by volunteers, and nobody has got around to that part yet. > Please Help. Thanks putting out a great product. You're welcome > The Install Book is great. Thank you Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 03:50:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA29841 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 03:50:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sam.networx.ie (dublin-ts8-180.indigo.ie [194.125.133.180]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA29834 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 03:50:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mip1.networx.ie (mip1.networx.ie [194.9.12.1]) by sam.networx.ie (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA07610; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 11:30:03 GMT X-Organisation: I.T. NetworX Ltd X-Business: Network Consultancy and Training X-Address: 67 Merrion Square, Dublin 2, Ireland X-Voice: +353-1-676-8866 X-Fax: +353-1-676-8868 Received: from mike.networx.ie by mip1.networx.ie Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 11:28:26 BST From: Michael Ryan Reply-To: mike@networx.ie Subject: Re: Bug in /bin/sh To: Rashid Karimov Cc: questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This script executes properly using /bin/sh on a Mips M/120 running RISC/os 4.5. The bug would appear to have been introduced in the FreeBSD version of /bin/sh? On Tue, 2 Jul 1996 13:25:15 -0400 (EDT) Rashid Karimov wrote: > it is well known that classic "sh" is buggy. > It fails for example on some complex "configure" > scripts ... can't recall the name of the product, > I think it's something from GNU project. > > Use bash instead. Mike --- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 04:59:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA03109 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 04:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rolta.com (firewall-user@gatekeeper.rolta.com [165.113.135.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA03104 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 04:59:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rolta.com; id GAA07762; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 06:46:28 -0500 Received: from 68f800.rolta.com(204.177.195.25) by gatekeeper.rolta.com via smap (g3.0.1) id xma007760; Wed, 3 Jul 96 06:46:07 -0500 Received: by 68f800.rolta.com (5.65c/1.920109) id AA07839; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 17:26:23 GMT From: vdongre@rolta.com (Vrushal Dongre) Message-Id: <199607031726.AA07839@68f800.rolta.com> Subject: ppp question To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 3 Jul 96 17:26:21 IST X-Mailer: ELM [version 07.00.00.00 (2.3 PL11)] Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Forwarded message: >From ninad Wed Jul 3 17:24 IST 1996 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 17:24:48 GMT Message-Id: <199607031724.AA07819@68f800.rolta.com> X-Sender: ninad@68f800.rolta.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: vdongre@rolta.com From: Ninad Tipnis Subject: We have been trying to run dialing ppp on one of our BSD unix box.If we run pppd it diplays following error message Sorry - PPP is not available on this system We would like to know how to get around with this error message. We are using FreeBSD 2.0.5-RELEASE with Motorola modem. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ninad Tipnis ninad@rolta.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Vrushal Dongre Email: vdongre@rolta.com " Nothing, is the worst thing that can happen to anybody " -Richard Bach ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 05:43:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA04322 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 05:43:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Kryten.nina.com (dyn060-gnv.51.fdt.net [205.229.51.61]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA04315 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 05:43:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (frankd@localhost) by Kryten.nina.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA06226; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 08:36:24 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: Kryten.nina.com: frankd owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 08:36:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Frank Seltzer X-Sender: frankd@Kryten.nina.com To: Vrushal Dongre cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ppp question In-Reply-To: <199607031726.AA07839@68f800.rolta.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 Jul 1996, Vrushal Dongre wrote: > We have been trying to run dialing ppp on one of our BSD unix box.If we run > pppd it diplays following error message > > Sorry - PPP is not available on this system > > We would like to know how to get around with this error message. > > We are using FreeBSD 2.0.5-RELEASE with Motorola modem. You need to add the pseudo-device ppp to your kernel config file and rebuild. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ninad Tipnis ninad@rolta.com > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Frank -- Only in America can a homeless veteran sleep in a cardboard box while a draft dodger sleeps in the White House. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 06:08:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA05563 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 06:08:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flopsy.hobart.TASed.EDU.AU (root@flopsy.hobart.TASed.EDU.AU [147.41.41.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA05558 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 06:08:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by flopsy.hobart.TASed.EDU.AU (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA03202 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:08:29 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:08:29 +1000 (EST) From: Administrator To: freebsd-questions Subject: Syslog and local Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I read the man pages for syslog and syslog conf and then tried to setup syslog to write all calls to local.err to /var/log/local2.err.log I modified /etc/syslog.conf to read... *.err;kern.debug;auth.notice;mail.crit /dev/console *.notice;kern.debug;lpr,auth.info;mail.crit /var/log/messages mail.info /var/log/maillog lpr.info /var/log/lpd-errs cron.* /var/cron/log local2.err /var/log/local2.err.log *.err root *.notice;auth.debug root *.alert root *.emerg * I then (as root) type kill -1 But it didnt appear to work...I tested it using: logger -p local2.err WonK but the messages was logged in /var/log/messages. Any Ideas? Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 06:08:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA05616 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 06:08:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flopsy.hobart.TASed.EDU.AU (root@flopsy.hobart.TASed.EDU.AU [147.41.41.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA05608 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 06:08:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by flopsy.hobart.TASed.EDU.AU (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA03208 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:08:59 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:08:58 +1000 (EST) From: Administrator Reply-To: Administrator To: freebsd-questions Subject: IP over parrallel port Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am wondering if there is aguide anywhere about how to run IP between to parallel ports using a laplink cable. I read in the installation guide that you can install FreeBSD this way if you have a nother FreeBSD box handy but it makes no reference to what has to be done on the existing box to enable such a setup. I tried man -k parallel and man -k lpt but it only appeared to produce a printer driver. The already installed box is running 2.1-R and is on ethernet. Instructions or pointers to instructions/man pages would be appreciated. Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 06:20:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA06831 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 06:20:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ifqsc.sc.usp.br (uspfsc.ifqsc.sc.usp.br [143.107.228.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA06823 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 06:20:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 96 10:21 BRT From: OTAVIO AUGUSTO DEIROZ Subject: unsubscribe To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Message-id: X-Envelope-to: questions@freefall.freebsd.org X-VMS-To: IN%"questions@freefall.freebsd.org" References: Internet: ifqsc.usp.br HepNet: uspfsc.hepnet X.25:(0724)11620020 Comments: ifqsc.usp.br: Instituto de Fisica e Quimica de Sao Carlos - USP, BR Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe octavio@uspfsc.ifqsc.sc.usp.br From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 06:21:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA06870 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 06:21:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Guard.LP.Lviv.UA ([194.44.138.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA06822 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 06:20:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by Guard.LP.Lviv.UA (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA13774 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 16:19:58 +0300 Received: from netadmin.lp.lviv.ua(192.168.0.2) by Guard.LP.Lviv.UA via smap (V2.0alpha) id xma013769; Wed, 3 Jul 96 16:19:44 +0300 Received: from NETADMIN/SpoolDir by netadmin.lp.lviv.ua (Mercury 1.21); 3 Jul 96 16:22:43 +0200 Received: from SpoolDir by NETADMIN (Mercury 1.22-b2); 3 Jul 96 16:22:19 +0200 From: "Adrian Pavlykevych" Organization: Lvivska Polytechnica To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 16:22:16 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: Netware & Free Reply-to: pam@polynet.lviv.ua Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.40) Message-ID: <610D1F32FF@netadmin.lp.lviv.ua> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, I'm interested if there is an NDS solution for FreeBSD? I would like to use FreeBSD as application server in Netware network No IPX support required (Netware works on TCP/IP pretty good) TIA Adrian Pavlykevych | State University "Lvivska Polytechnica" System Administrator | 12, St. Bandery str, Campus Computer Network | Lviv, 290646 email: pam@polynet.lviv.ua | Ukraine tel/fax:+380 (322) 742041 | From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 06:34:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA07571 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 06:34:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from equalis.it (root@intserv.equalis.it [194.21.245.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA07566 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 06:34:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cstrati (ppp-va-25.equalis.it) by equalis.it with SMTP id AA22944 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for questions@freebsd.com); Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:36:15 +0100 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960703133255.0067c31c@equalis.it> X-Sender: cstrati@equalis.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 15:32:55 +0200 To: questions@freebsd.com From: Carlo Strati Subject: Help for FreeBSD review Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hy, I'm a freelance technical editor working for PC Professionale (the italian version of Ziff Davis' PC Magazine). Well, I'd like to write some articles about FreeBSD, but I have some installation problems... I have FreeBSD 2.0.5 on Walnut Creek's CD-ROM. I install it onto my second hard drive with the FreeBSD boot manager; the installation goes well and the PC boots right with the boot manager. But when I ask to boot with FreeBSD, after the correct recognition of all the devices, I get the following messages: "changing root device to wd1a" and "panic: cannot mount root". --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the current configuration of my system: = First disk (primary EIDE channel, master) = Quantum FireBall 1280MB: 100% of space Primary DOS Partition (C:) = Second disk (secondary EIDE channel, master) = Quantum FireBall 1280MB: - 800MB Extended DOS Partition (200MB for D: and 600MB for E:) - 480MB FreeBSD Partition (250MB for /, 120MB for /usr and 90MB for swap) = CD ROM = Plextor 6X SCSI controlled by Adaptec AHA2940 = VGA = S3 based board (I can use NumeberNine Motion 771 with S3-968 or Diamond Stealth 2000 3D with ViRGE, both with 2MB of memory) = CPU & Memory = Intel Pentium 133 with 32MB of RAM --------------------------------------------------------------------------- I've installed FreeBSD from CD-ROM after booting from floppy and selected a void partition on my second hard drive. When I look at my partitions within the installation program of FreeBSD I can see: wd0s1 (PRI-DOS), wd2s1 (EXT-DOS), wd2s2a (root FreeBSD), wd2s3e (/usr FreeBSD) and wd2s4b (swap FreeBSD). Why do I have my first disk named "wd0" and my second disk named "wd2"? Where is "wd1"? After the installation, the boot manager goes well and let me start with FreeBSD from my second hard drive, but the system cannot mount the root. Why the message tell me "changing root device to wd1a even if I selected wd2s2 for the root? May be I can't install FreeBSD onto secondary EIDE channel? Or what else goes wrong? I've tried to re-install FreeBSD, but nothing changes. I've also tried to force the boot with "hd(2,a)/kernel" but it hangs... What can I do? I'd really like to have FreeBSD on my PC to let the readers know the advantages of Unix-like systems and FreeBSD itself as a good alternative to Linux, so please help me as soon as possible. Thanks, Carlo Strati ---------------- PC Professionale Italy ---------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 07:28:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA11055 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 07:28:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sili.adn.edu.ph (root@sili.adn.edu.ph [165.220.57.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA11024 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 07:28:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from info@localhost) by sili.adn.edu.ph (8.6.11/8.6.9) id WAA04526; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 22:21:22 +1000 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 22:21:22 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Information Help Desk To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: setting up wu-ftpd Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk HI !!! I was setting up our ftp server in a fbsd box and ported wu-ftpd. I got it installed and done all the changes in the inetd.conf. What I did not get to work was the TAR and COMPRESS. I tried the command below which is supposed to work, get .tar.gz Usually what came out was, No such file or directory. I have even followed the INSTALL instructions in the distribution. But, I haven't got it to work. Thank you. -- jf From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 08:09:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA15450 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 08:09:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gateway.pnu.com (gateway.upj.com [146.240.240.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA15445 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 08:09:16 -0700 (PDT) From: ALHACK@am.pnu.com Received: from pw13mg.am.pnu.com (pw14mg.am.pnu.com) by gateway.pnu.com with SMTP id AA19091 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for ); Wed, 3 Jul 1996 11:09:10 -0400 Received: from ccMail by pw13mg.am.pnu.com (IMA Internet Exchange 1.04b) id 1da8cba0; Wed, 3 Jul 96 11:07:38 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 11:01:43 -0400 Message-Id: <1da8cba0@am.pnu.com> Subject: FreeBSD vs. Caldera Linux To: questions@FreeBSD.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have been impressed by the performance response of your site, especially since the hardware is a 90MHz Pentium. The philosophy followed by the development team makes a lot of sense. Aside from possible religious issues in either of these two camps, are there performance characteristics, supported equipment list, or stability issues that would make FreeBSD the OS of choice over Caldera Linux? Regarding applications, are you aware of growing ISV support for FreeBSD? Are you aware of any plans by anyone for a SunSoft Wabi port to run Windows apps? Or something similar to Cadera's Office Suite? Thanks, Art Hack alhack@am.pnu.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 08:30:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA16941 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 08:30:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from commerce.imagenet.on.ca ([207.107.36.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA16561 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 08:28:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from scouchma@localhost) by commerce.imagenet.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA14322; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 11:30:58 -0400 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 11:30:58 -0400 From: Stephen Couchman Message-Id: <199607031530.LAA14322@commerce.imagenet.on.ca> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Iomega Jaz drive questions Cc: Stephen.Couchman@imagenet.on.ca Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have just purchased a Jaz drive, and after reviewing the questions in the archive, I have a couple of my own: 1. How do I go about formatting the disk to be used as a Unix partition? I want to mount it so that I can backup my data to it. 2. Is there a resolution to the 'sleep' issue? If I access the drive after is has powered down, it causes a 'panic'. Would placing a simple 'ls' to /dev/null in cron work around the problem? Are there any other issues that I should be looking out for? Thanks -- Stephen From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 08:39:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA17673 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 08:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA17660 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 08:39:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA00359; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 08:39:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607031539.IAA00359@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: ALHACK@am.pnu.com cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Caldera Linux In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jul 1996 11:01:43 EDT." <1da8cba0@am.pnu.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@root.com Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 08:39:13 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I have been impressed by the performance response of your site, especially >since the hardware is a 90MHz Pentium. The philosophy followed by the >development team makes a lot of sense. > >Aside from possible religious issues in either of these two camps, are there >performance characteristics, supported equipment list, or stability issues >that would make FreeBSD the OS of choice over Caldera Linux? I don't know if anyone has done a specific performance comparison between Caldera Linux and FreeBSD, but there have been some comparisons between FreeBSD and Linux in general. We've worked hard to improve performance in our current development branch, and most if not all of the commonly used benchmarks now perform better on FreeBSD than Linux. For stability, I think you'll find that the soon to be released FreeBSD 2.1.5 will beat just about any Unix variant (not just Linux) for typical applications. 2.1.5 is a stability release that is based on the 2.1.0 development branch. It doesn't have some of the performance improvements that have been made recently, but it still performs exceptionally well - especially in the area of networking. >Regarding applications, are you aware of growing ISV support for FreeBSD? >Are you aware of any plans by anyone for a SunSoft Wabi port to run Windows >apps? Or something similar to Cadera's Office Suite? I'll leave these questions for other people to answer. -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 09:34:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA21281 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 09:34:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from actcom.co.il (root@actcom.co.il [192.114.47.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA21270 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 09:34:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vipe.actcom.co.il by actcom.co.il with SMTP (8.6.12/actcom-0.1) id TAA02453 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 19:34:45 +0300 (rfc931-sender: vipe.actcom.co.il [192.114.47.21]) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960702163428.006f6fa4@mail.actcom.co.il> X-Sender: andi@mail.actcom.co.il X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 19:34:28 +0300 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Andi Gutmans Subject: Couple of questions Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hey, Two quick questions: a) When is FreeBSD 2.1.5 going to be released? b) Will it include IPX support? or should I just go ahead with the 2.2-SNAP? Thanks, Andi Gutmans From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 09:45:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA22760 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 09:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from actcom.co.il (root@actcom.co.il [192.114.47.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA22748 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 09:45:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vipe.actcom.co.il by actcom.co.il with SMTP (8.6.12/actcom-0.1) id TAA04147 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 19:45:27 +0300 (rfc931-sender: vipe.actcom.co.il [192.114.47.21]) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960702164511.00702238@mail.actcom.co.il> X-Sender: andi@mail.actcom.co.il X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 19:45:11 +0300 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Andi Gutmans Subject: Ugh one more... Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hey, Sorry about all of these questions I just want to move my Linux router to FreeBSD and I'm not sure what to move it to. I need both tcp/ip and IPX routing (I know IPX is not final but the Linux one is giving me lots of problems so it can't be much worse) I'm confused with all the SNAP and current thingies :) Should I get the 2.1-SNAP or the 2.2-SNAP what package directory do I need to get for each one respectivly. I don't like FAQ's but there has been no indication anywhere on how to get the right tree for IPX. Maybe I can make an IPX howto once I get it working ;) Thanks once again, Andi Gutmans From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 09:47:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA22895 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 09:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA22868 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 09:47:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id SAA28978; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 18:46:59 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (RAA00688); Wed, 3 Jul 1996 17:04:14 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199607031704.RAA00688@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: Bug in /bin/sh To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 17:04:14 +0000 (GMT) Cc: rashid@rk.ios.com In-Reply-To: <199607021725.NAA12316@rk.ios.com> from "Rashid Karimov" at Jul 2, 96 01:25:15 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > it is well known that classic "sh" is buggy. Yes, but /bin/sh in FreeBSD is not the classic "sh", it's "ash" (from Kenneth Almquist) > It fails for example on some complex "configure" > scripts ... can't recall the name of the product, > I think it's something from GNU project. > > Use bash instead. Or the real AT&T ksh93, or pdksh (they are a bit more standard than bash - of course, on supported Unices, not in Linuxland). -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 10:04:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA25192 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 10:04:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA25177 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 10:04:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA01750; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 19:04:12 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <199607031704.TAA01750@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: Couple of questions To: andi@actcom.co.il (Andi Gutmans) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 19:04:12 +0200 (SAT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960702163428.006f6fa4@mail.actcom.co.il> from Andi Gutmans at "Jul 2, 96 07:34:28 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL16 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hey, > > Two quick questions: > a) When is FreeBSD 2.1.5 going to be released? Hmmm. I'm not qualified to answer this one. > b) Will it include IPX support? or should I just go ahead with the 2.2-SNAP? No, it will not have IPX support in. John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 10:07:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA25795 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 10:07:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA25785 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 10:07:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA01805; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 19:07:26 +0200 (SAT) From: John Hay Message-Id: <199607031707.TAA01805@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: Ugh one more... To: andi@actcom.co.il (Andi Gutmans) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 19:07:26 +0200 (SAT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960702164511.00702238@mail.actcom.co.il> from Andi Gutmans at "Jul 2, 96 07:45:11 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL16 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hey, > > Sorry about all of these questions I just want to move my Linux router to > FreeBSD and I'm not sure what to move it to. I need both tcp/ip and IPX > routing (I know IPX is not final but the Linux one is giving me lots of > problems so it can't be much worse) > > I'm confused with all the SNAP and current thingies :) > Should I get the 2.1-SNAP or the 2.2-SNAP > what package directory do I need to get for each one respectivly. > I don't like FAQ's but there has been no indication anywhere on how to get > the right tree for IPX. Maybe I can make an IPX howto once I get it working ;) > You will need a 2.2-SNAP for IPX. I will be very glad if you can come up with a IPX howto. Maybe we can get it into the FBSD handbook. If you have IPX questions, I will try to answer them. John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 10:37:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA29627 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 10:37:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA29613 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 10:37:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id SAA10573; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 18:37:41 +0100 (BST) To: Eric Chan cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: A simple question??? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jul 1996 15:40:22 EDT." <199607030540.PAA16059@moredun.nswcc.org.au> Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 18:37:40 +0100 Message-ID: <10571.836415460@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Eric Chan wrote in message ID <199607030540.PAA16059@moredun.nswcc.org.au>: > I just want to know if a software is running on BSDI x86 v2.0, could > that be running on FreeBSD v2.0 platform? 2.0 is a VERY old release, and not binary compatabile with BSDi's BSD/OS 2.0. You'll need to run either -stable or wait for 2.1.5-RELEASE to be released in order to run BSDi 2.0 binaries. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 10:41:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA00217 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 10:41:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA00199 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 10:41:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id aj10119; 3 Jul 96 17:38 GMT Received: from longacre.demon.co.uk ([158.152.156.24]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa18657; 3 Jul 96 18:36 +0100 From: Michael Searle Message-ID: To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: IDE+SCSI? Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 18:00:47 BST X-Mailer: Offlite 0.09 / Termite Internet for Acorn RISC OS Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Are there any problems with having a SCSI and IDE drives in the same computer under FreeBSD? The boot drive would be the SCSI, dual booting DOS/FreeBSD. There would be DOS and FreeBSD partitions on the IDE drive. What about using drives at the same time - is this possible with SCSI, and one IDE drive, or if there were more than one IDE drive? The IDE drives could be on separate controllers, as the IDE controller is a PCI bus master with two channels (supports PIO modes 3 and 4, and Bus Master IDE DMA Mode 2.) -- Michael Searle - searle@longacre.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 10:50:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA01615 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 10:50:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA01597 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 10:50:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id SAA10622; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 18:47:43 +0100 (BST) To: Andi Gutmans cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Couple of questions In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 Jul 1996 19:34:28 +0300." <2.2.32.19960702163428.006f6fa4@mail.actcom.co.il> Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 18:47:42 +0100 Message-ID: <10620.836416062@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Andi Gutmans wrote in message ID <2.2.32.19960702163428.006f6fa4@mail.actcom.co.il>: > Two quick questions: > a) When is FreeBSD 2.1.5 going to be released? ``When it is ready'' :-) > b) Will it include IPX support? or should I just go ahead with the 2.2-SNAP? Go with 2.2-snap if you want IPX. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 11:06:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA04073 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 11:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aimnet.com (mailhub.aimnet.com [204.247.0.104]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA04068 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 11:06:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aimnet.com (dial-sf1-24.iway.aimnet.com [204.118.64.24]) by aimnet.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id LAA19170 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 11:03:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <31DA5B8B.41C67EA6@aimnet.com> Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 11:37:47 +0000 From: Kurt A Augustine X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: where might libc.so.3.0 be? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk it seems that the packages xv-3.10a and wine-96.06.11 need libc.so.3.0. could you take pity on a burgeoning novice and tell me if some other package will install this library and/or where I might obtain it? Thanks, kurta@aimnet.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 11:40:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA09692 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 11:40:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix1.ism.com.br (root@unix1.ism.com.br [200.255.211.35]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA09667 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 11:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clpc1.compuland.com.br (clpc1.compuland.com.br [200.255.96.22]) by unix1.ism.com.br (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA21801 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:40:34 -0300 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:40:34 -0300 Message-Id: <199607031840.PAA21801@unix1.ism.com.br> X-Sender: compland@ism.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: compland@ism.com.br (Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica) Subject: Sync clocks Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi: I would like to sync the clocks of three FreeBSD boxes. Is it possible to do that besides running cron scripts ? Thanks! Helio. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 11:41:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA09755 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 11:41:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix1.ism.com.br (root@unix1.ism.com.br [200.255.211.35]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA09701 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 11:40:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clpc1.compuland.com.br (clpc1.compuland.com.br [200.255.96.22]) by unix1.ism.com.br (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA21776 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:40:20 -0300 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:40:20 -0300 Message-Id: <199607031840.PAA21776@unix1.ism.com.br> X-Sender: compland@ism.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: compland@ism.com.br (Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica) Subject: Secure NFS Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi: Is it possible to set portmon variable, like in SunOS, in Freebsd to watch out the NFS mounts, forcing the request to come from a privileged port ? It's possible to set secure NFS in Freebsd ? Thanks a lot! Helio. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 11:44:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA10230 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 11:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix1.ism.com.br (root@unix1.ism.com.br [200.255.211.35]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA10224 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 11:44:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clpc1.compuland.com.br (clpc1.compuland.com.br [200.255.96.22]) by unix1.ism.com.br (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA22012 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:41:12 -0300 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:41:12 -0300 Message-Id: <199607031841.PAA22012@unix1.ism.com.br> X-Sender: compland@ism.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: compland@ism.com.br (Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica) Subject: Pop Timeout Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi: Sometimes, while one user is trying to get it's email, I got the following error on the console (of the mail server): -ERR POP TIMEOUT . What cause this ? The local network is lightly loaded. Thanks! Helio. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 11:46:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA10463 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 11:46:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from idiom.com (idiom.com [140.174.82.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA10456 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 11:46:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cayford.lids.com (cayford.dial.idiom.com [206.14.80.82]) by idiom.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA05984 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 11:46:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <31DAC081.943@idiom.com> Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 11:48:33 -0700 From: Cayford Burrell Organization: Vicor X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: DAT Tape X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Where do I find something that tells me what settings to use for the dump command for 2GB DAT Tapes? The density figures don't make sense, and I can't believe that using "B 2000000" is really the right thing. -- Cayford Burrell From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 11:51:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA11010 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 11:51:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lati.tec.sd.us (lati.tec.sd.us [198.247.161.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA11005 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 11:51:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from annettj@localhost) by lati.tec.sd.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA13857; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:51:09 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:51:09 -0500 (CDT) From: "John R. Annett" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: 3Com Support? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Just a dumb question, will FreeBSD support a 10/100 3Com Ethernet Card at 100 MB speeds? __________________________________________________________________________ John R. Annett, Lake Area Technical Institute 230 11th St. NE, Watertown, SD 57201 Work (605)882-5284 ext 360 or (800)657-4344 ext 360 FAX (605)882-6299 Home (605)886-3924 __________________________________________________________________________ "Training for the Future" From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 12:09:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA12996 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 12:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ref.tfs.com ([206.245.251.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA12989 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 12:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by ref.tfs.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA00701 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 12:09:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net (mmdf@buffnet1.buffnet.net [205.246.19.10]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA19332; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:38:28 GMT Received: from buffnet5.buffnet.net by buffnet1.buffnet.net id aa13236; 3 Jul 96 14:39 EDT Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:39:07 -0400 (EDT) From: steve hovey To: Michael Searle cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IDE+SCSI? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 Jul 1996, Michael Searle wrote: > Are there any problems with having a SCSI and IDE drives in the same > computer under FreeBSD? The boot drive would be the SCSI, dual booting > DOS/FreeBSD. There would be DOS and FreeBSD partitions on the IDE drive. I have mixed boxes the the boot drive must be the IDE I believe. > > What about using drives at the same time - is this possible with SCSI, and > one IDE drive, or if there were more than one IDE drive? The IDE drives I have one box with 2 ide drives, and 4 scsi drives on separate controlers (3 controllers total) - no problem. > could be on separate controllers, as the IDE controller is a PCI bus master > with two channels (supports PIO modes 3 and 4, and Bus Master IDE DMA Mode > 2.) > > -- > Michael Searle - searle@longacre.demon.co.uk > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 12:18:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA14199 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 12:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA14192 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 12:18:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id aj15385; 3 Jul 96 20:18 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa00919; 3 Jul 96 20:16 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA01043; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 11:37:34 GMT Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 11:37:34 GMT Message-Id: <199607031137.LAA01043@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: mcquiggi@sfu.ca CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199607030047.AAA17572@fraser.sfu.ca> (message from Kevin McQuiggin on Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:47:11 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: Looking for libtiff.so.3.3 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Thanks to Doug White for his quick reply to my last question. I am > still trying to locate the libs for xpaint. Now it needs > libtiff.so.3.3. Which package is this one in? graphics/tiff > Sorry to do this one by one, but is there a way to see which libs the > app needs all at once? ldd -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 12:18:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA14214 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 12:18:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA14194 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 12:18:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id ak15385; 3 Jul 96 20:18 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa00930; 3 Jul 96 20:17 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA01084; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 11:44:45 GMT Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 11:44:45 GMT Message-Id: <199607031144.LAA01084@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: bala@cst.com.au CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199607030909.TAA01628@skeg.cst.com.au> (message from Bala Periasamy on Wed, 3 Jul 1996 19:09:55 +1000 (EST)) Subject: Re: Majordomo problem (help) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Bala Periasamy writes: > > Running FreeBSD 2.1.0 > Majordomo 1.93 > > syslog error: > swap_pager: out of space > Process 192 killed by vm_fault -- out of swap > pid 196: perl: uid 54: exited on signal 11 As it suggests, the system has run out of swap - at a minimum, you should have 2MB of swap for every MB of RAM, more if you run pigs like Netscape or Emacs. You can use 'ps -vax' to identify which processes are using a lot of virtual memory. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 12:18:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA14278 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 12:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA14251 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 12:18:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id ad15624; 3 Jul 96 20:18 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa00976; 3 Jul 96 20:17 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA01095; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 11:54:11 GMT Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 11:54:11 GMT Message-Id: <199607031154.LAA01095@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu CC: k945278@kingston.ac.uk, questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Doug White on Tue, 2 Jul 1996 23:14:14 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: Need 2.1.0 on CD am in UK Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I am trying to get hold of FreeBSD 2.1.0 on CD to install for I386. > > > > I am in the UK and would like to know of a company that distributes it please. > > Walnut Creek should ship overseas. They do, but it's a lot more convenient to buy one locally, and probably a bit cheaper as well. (I've mailed Mark some details privately). > If you wait a bit 2.1.5 will be out. I suspect it will probably be a couple of months before it becomes available on CD here... -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 12:27:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA15488 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 12:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA15465 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 12:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (kelly@emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA25935; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 19:27:02 GMT Message-Id: <199607031927.TAA25935@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA099082021; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:27:02 -0600 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:27:02 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: cayford@idiom.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31DAC081.943@idiom.com> (message from Cayford Burrell on Wed, 03 Jul 1996 11:48:33 -0700) Subject: Re: DAT Tape Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Cayford" == Cayford Burrell writes: Cayford> Where do I find something that tells me what settings to Cayford> use for the dump command for 2GB DAT Tapes? The density Cayford> figures don't make sense, and I can't believe that using Cayford> "B 2000000" is really the right thing. That's what I use. Except I use all 9's. DAT drives are modern enough to signal end-of-tape, which dump will detect and ask for the next tape. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 13:01:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA20866 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:01:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hollywood.cinenet.net (wraith@hollywood.cinenet.net [198.147.76.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA20857 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:01:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hollywood.cinenet.net (8.7.3/25-eef) id NAA11098; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:00:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Gorichanaz Message-Id: <199607032000.NAA11098@hollywood.cinenet.net> Subject: SMP patches/code - where to find? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:00:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Pardon me, but I'm SUP/CVS illiterate. Can anyong point me to where the SMP beta code is located? -=bob=- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 13:01:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA20937 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA20928 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:01:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA27432 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:00:10 -0700 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199607032000.NAA27432@MediaCity.com> Subject: Looking for ASUS based complete systems to buy. To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:00:09 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: brian@MediaCity.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk My company is looking to buy 25 systems to run FreeBSD this year. 4 to 6 will be purchased immediately. I'd like the systems to be based on ASUS motherboards or other FreeBSD friendly technology. The desired system config is: P5-166, or P6-200 CPU FreeBSD friendly motherboard 128MB Memory SCSI Subsystem 8GB+ (with RAID1 (mirroring) in the SCSI controller desirable) Standard VGA 19" Rack mount case 3 year warranty desirable The systems will be delivered to Mountain View, California. If you are interested or know of a company that may be interested in closing this deal please let me and them know. -- Brian Litzinger Powered by FreeBSD http[s]://www.mpress.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 13:19:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA22008 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:19:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kilgour.nething.com (kilgour.nething.com [204.253.210.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA22003 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:19:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from randy.nething.com (randy.nething.com [204.253.210.83]) by kilgour.nething.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA15004 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:16:13 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:16:13 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960703151439.26cfa4b6@nething.com> X-Sender: rberndt@nething.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Randy Berndt Subject: Weird time change on reboot Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On one of the reboots of my machine (486/33, 2.0.5R), the date/time went from Jun 28, 1996, 20:50:52, from the shutdown message to the log, to May 23, 1929, 14:20:06 (I figure the :06 is boot time) from the system start message to the log. OK, is this some magic date (like 0x000000 internally)? Any idea what happened? Other than the fact that 05/23/29 was my mothers 22nd birthday, I'm totally lost. :) Randy Berndt ---------------------------------- AOS/VS, FreeBSD, DOS: I'm caught in a maze of twisty little command interpreters, all different. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 13:27:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA22597 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:27:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA22587 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:27:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA11136; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:25:54 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607032025.NAA11136@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Help for FreeBSD review To: cstrati@equalis.it (Carlo Strati) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:25:53 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.com In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960703133255.0067c31c@equalis.it> from "Carlo Strati" at Jul 3, 96 03:32:55 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm a freelance technical editor working for PC Professionale (the italian > version of Ziff Davis' PC Magazine). Well, I'd like to write some articles > about FreeBSD, but I have some installation problems... Cool. The writer part, not the problem part. 8-). > This is the current configuration of my system: > > = First disk (primary EIDE channel, master) = > Quantum FireBall 1280MB: 100% of space Primary DOS Partition (C:) > > = Second disk (secondary EIDE channel, master) = > Quantum FireBall 1280MB: - 800MB Extended DOS Partition > (200MB for D: and 600MB for E:) > - 480MB FreeBSD Partition > (250MB for /, 120MB for /usr and 90MB for swap) > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > I've installed FreeBSD from CD-ROM after booting from floppy and selected a > void partition on my second hard drive. When I look at my partitions within > the installation program of FreeBSD I can see: wd0s1 (PRI-DOS), wd2s1 > (EXT-DOS), wd2s2a (root FreeBSD), wd2s3e (/usr FreeBSD) and wd2s4b (swap > FreeBSD). Why do I have my first disk named "wd0" and my second disk named > "wd2"? Where is "wd1"? wd1 is the slave channel on your first controller. > After the installation, the boot manager goes well and let me start with > FreeBSD from my second hard drive, but the system cannot mount the root. Why > the message tell me "changing root device to wd1a even if I selected wd2s2 > for the root? > > May be I can't install FreeBSD onto secondary EIDE channel? Or what else > goes wrong? I've tried to re-install FreeBSD, but nothing changes. I've also > tried to force the boot with "hd(2,a)/kernel" but it hangs... What can I do? > > I'd really like to have FreeBSD on my PC to let the readers know the > advantages of Unix-like systems and FreeBSD itself as a good alternative to > Linux, so please help me as soon as possible. The root device is not expected to be on wd2. You should be able to specify wd2 at the boot prompt; if that doesn't work, you will need to (temporarily) replug your drives so that FreeBSD can come up, and you need to rebuild a kernel. Here is the line from your current kernel (compiled with GENERIC): ============================================================================== config kernel root on wd0 ============================================================================== Here is the LINT description (/sys/i386/conf/LINT): ============================================================================== # # This directive defines a number of things: # - The compiled kernel is to be called `kernel' # - The root filesystem might be on partition wd0a # - Crash dumps will be written to wd0b, if possible. Specifying the # dump device here is not recommended. Use dumpon(8). # config kernel root on wd0 dumps on wd0 ============================================================================== I *think* that you can say "root on wd2", and it will work. If not, you will need to change machdep.c to hard code 0x82, or set up the drive as the slave on the primary controller. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 13:29:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA22752 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:29:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA22742 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:29:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id VAA10846; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 21:28:56 +0100 (BST) To: Kurt A Augustine cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: where might libc.so.3.0 be? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jul 1996 11:37:47 -0000." <31DA5B8B.41C67EA6@aimnet.com> Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 21:28:55 +0100 Message-ID: <10844.836425735@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Kurt A Augustine wrote in message ID <31DA5B8B.41C67EA6@aimnet.com>: > it seems that the packages xv-3.10a and wine-96.06.11 need libc.so.3.0. > could you take pity on a burgeoning novice and tell me if some other > package will install this library and/or where I might obtain it? You're looking in the wrong directory on the FTP site. Try the packages-2.1.5 directory instead. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 13:31:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA22926 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:31:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA22903 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:31:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id VAA10860; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 21:30:31 +0100 (BST) To: compland@ism.com.br (Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica) cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Sync clocks In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jul 1996 15:40:34 -0300." <199607031840.PAA21801@unix1.ism.com.br> Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 21:30:31 +0100 Message-ID: <10858.836425831@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica wrote in message ID <199607031840.PAA21801@unix1.ism.com.br>: > I would like to sync the clocks of three FreeBSD boxes. Is it possible > to do that besides running cron scripts ? man xntpd Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 13:31:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA22969 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:31:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA22963 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:31:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA11155; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:29:33 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607032029.NAA11155@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Secure NFS To: compland@ism.com.br (Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:29:33 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607031840.PAA21776@unix1.ism.com.br> from "Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica" at Jul 3, 96 03:40:20 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Is it possible to set portmon variable, like in SunOS, in Freebsd to > watch out the NFS mounts, forcing the request to come from a privileged port ? > It's possible to set secure NFS in Freebsd ? This is the default. You must use -n to disable it (man mountd). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 13:33:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA23152 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:33:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA23144 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:33:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA11168; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:31:03 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607032031.NAA11168@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: SMP patches/code - where to find? To: wraith@hollywood.cinenet.net (Robert Gorichanaz) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:31:03 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607032000.NAA11098@hollywood.cinenet.net> from "Robert Gorichanaz" at Jul 3, 96 01:00:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Pardon me, but I'm SUP/CVS illiterate. > > Can anyong point me to where the SMP beta code is located? You should subscribe to the SMP list, and ask there. echo "subscribe freebsd-smp" | mail majordomo@freebsd.org Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 13:43:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA23934 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:43:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from guarany.cpd.unb.br (guarany.cpd.unb.br [164.41.2.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA23928 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:42:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from antares.linf.unb.br by guarany.cpd.unb.br (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA124690; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 17:39:26 -0300 Received: from pegasus by antares.linf.unb.br (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03941; Wed, 3 Jul 96 17:44:34 WST From: e8917523@antares.linf.unb.br (Daniel C. Sobral) Message-Id: <9607032144.AA03941@antares.linf.unb.br> Subject: Keymaps To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 17:45:18 -0400 (WST) Disclaimer: Klaatu Barada Nikto! X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I own a keyboard that has no keymap available. How do I make a new one? Please, answer directly to me, since I'm not on this list. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) e8917523@linf.unb.br * Psychiatric Hospital? And everyone there is an FBI agent? * From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 13:47:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA24197 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:47:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA24191 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:47:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/19Aug95-0530PM) id AA09843; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 16:46:11 -0400 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 16:46:11 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9607032046.AA09843@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Terry Lambert Cc: compland@ism.com.br (Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica), questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Secure NFS In-Reply-To: <199607032029.NAA11155@phaeton.artisoft.com> References: <199607031840.PAA21776@unix1.ism.com.br> <199607032029.NAA11155@phaeton.artisoft.com> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk < said: >> Is it possible to set portmon variable, like in SunOS, in Freebsd to >> watch out the NFS mounts, forcing the request to come from a privileged port ? >> It's possible to set secure NFS in Freebsd ? > This is the default. You must use -n to disable it (man mountd). Of course, this really has nothing to do with security, it's just a stupid restriction on Sun's part to paper over the fact that standard NFS isn't secure. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 13:59:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA24904 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:59:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from frmug.fr.net (frmug-gw.frmug.org [193.56.58.252]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA24893 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by frmug.fr.net (8.6.8/8.6.9) with UUCP id WAA25205 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 22:58:47 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xp11.frmug.org (8.7.5/8.7.3/xp11-uucp-1.1) with ESMTP id VAA01994 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 21:10:04 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199607031910.VAA01994@xp11.frmug.org> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: remote reboot. How to? Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 21:09:57 +0200 From: "Philippe Charnier" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Next week, I will have to reboot hundreds of workstations, Is there a safe way for doing this (not `at' nor `cron')? Thanks. -------- -------- Philippe Charnier charnier@lirmm.fr (smtp) charnier@xp11.frmug.org (uucp) ``a PC not running FreeBSD is like a venusian with no tentacle'' ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 13:59:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA24938 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:59:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Rigel.orionsys.com (root@rigel.orionsys.com [205.148.224.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA24919 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dbabler@localhost) by Rigel.orionsys.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id NAA09795; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:58:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 13:58:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Babler To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Termcap vs. screen Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Funny how what seems like it should be simple ends up being so frustrating sometimes. Okay... another dumb question: I have been trying to get 'screen' to work. It makes okay, installs okay but what keeps messing up is that no matter what I do, it ALWAYS wants to use its own idea of the screen (SC) termcap/terminfo entry. I have the termcap source, and have been modifying it for our use here. Almost all of my users are running some sort of DOS ANSI emulation (not at all compatable with vt100), and we have our own termcap for them. I also incorporate the termcap (screencap) entries when I make the terminal database, and the /etc/termcap file CLEARLY shows our replacement SC terminal type (and there is only 1 entry for it in termcap), and you can select it using stty and all is well... Until you try to run screen... at which time it reverts to what I can only assume to be a compiled-in termcap of it's own, regardless of what the man page says and regardless of what the initial settings for $TERM and $TERMCAP are. Okay, what the heck have I overlooked this time? Perplexed, -Dave From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 14:05:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA25383 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:05:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA25366 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:04:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA11252; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:03:03 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607032103.OAA11252@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Caldera Linux To: ALHACK@am.pnu.com Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:03:03 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <1da8cba0@am.pnu.com> from "ALHACK@am.pnu.com" at Jul 3, 96 11:01:43 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Regarding applications, are you aware of growing ISV support for FreeBSD? Yes and no. FreeBSD has binary compatability with BSDI 1.x a.out, SCO COFF, and Linux a.out binaries. FreeBSD 2.1-stable (the release candidate for the soon to be released 2.1.5) has binary compatability with Linux ELF and BSD 2.x binaries. Support for SVR4 ELF binaries is currently undergoing testing. So the number of binaries which FreeBSD is increasing dramatically. One of the problems with supporting binary compatability modes is that the vendors believe they only have to do one port. Because FreeBSD is compatible with other systems binaries, but other systems are not compatible with FreeBSD's (NetBSD and OpenBSD are, to an extent, and BSDI will run statically linked binaries), the vendor is incented to port to systems other than FreeBSD, and get their "FreeBSD binaries" that way. The problem with this approach is one of supported platforms; generally, validation testing (if a vendor tests their products at all) is only done on the porting platform. Because of this, there is sometimes a lack of support for running products in an emulation environment. If FreeBSD sales of products to run in an emulation environment are sufficient to fund a FreeBSD native port, it is generally a good idea for a vendor to do the port, since it will allow them to pick up people on the "buy" margins for support reasons. Whether or not this is economical depends on the cost to port, which is dictated, really, by how portable the code is in the first place. If your software runs on SunOS, then a port is probably quite trivial, and if you are getting FreeBSD sales at all, will probably pay for itself: most of the people on the FreeBSD lists are computing professionals, with the ability to dictate purchase decisions among "equivalent" products on other commercial UNIX platforms. It's worth the brand loyalty alone, to many of these companies, since UNIX software has traditionally been sold directly rather than through store fronts. Because of this, we have seen slow, but steadily increasing commercial product support of FreeBSD as a platform, especially for ISP and NSP products (for instance, as far as I know, FreeBSD is the only free OS software being used for NSP peering at the MAE-East national network access point in the US). > Are you aware of any plans by anyone for a SunSoft Wabi port to > run Windows apps? Not WABI itself, because of the cost and because SunSoft must protect its Solaris market, since they did not reduce their per unit cost to Microsoft OS levels after the royalty buyout from USL. They are treating the royalty buyout as an amortizable cost instead of a fixed overhead, and so they will not be benefitting from the buyout for 2-3 more years (unless they wise up and kick their accountants into fixing the problem). Because of this, they must take any competitive advantage they can. On the other hand, Sun's is not the only WABI product out there. Willows software, another startup (like Caldera) with funding from the Noorda Family Trust (Ray Noorda), has already been ported to FreeBSD. Willows took a slightly different (and highly successful) approach to porting their commercial product: they asked for help from the people who wrote the OS, and from computer professionals who have done work on the application on the OS. As a result, because the FreeBSD community wants to promote commercial products running natively on the FreeBSD platform, Willows was given a large amount of *volunteer* effort towards their porting problem: they did not have to eat porting costs on an unknown, other than nominal effort for non-disclosure and licensing agreements. I'm quite certain that other developers could get similar porting help, if they requested it. This would drastically reduce the time to return on any porting investment by significantly dropping the up front costs (if you are a developer interested in doing something like this, you should contact jkh@freebsd.org to set up a porting effort). > Or something similar to Cadera's Office Suite? The Caldera Office Suite is largely runnable on FreeBSD as of 2.1.5, since it directly supports Linux ELF binaries. Intermediate -stable and -current (active developement trees) have supported Linux ELF binaries for almost six months now. In addition, there is a German company producing an Office suite for UNIX systems, which is expected to be nearly identical function to the Microsoft Office suite. This should be (like Microsoft's own) significantly better integrated than the Caldera Office Suite. The company has shown a strong interest in porting to the freeware OS's, including Linux and FreeBSD. Hope this answers your questions; if anyone else has any additions or corrections, feel free to jump in. Regards, Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 14:17:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA26154 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:17:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA26147 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:17:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA11265; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:06:35 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607032106.OAA11265@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Secure NFS To: wollman@lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:06:35 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, compland@ism.com.br, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9607032046.AA09843@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> from "Garrett Wollman" at Jul 3, 96 04:46:11 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >> Is it possible to set portmon variable, like in SunOS, in Freebsd to > >> watch out the NFS mounts, forcing the request to come from a privileged port ? > >> It's possible to set secure NFS in Freebsd ? > > > This is the default. You must use -n to disable it (man mountd). > > Of course, this really has nothing to do with security, it's just a > stupid restriction on Sun's part to paper over the fact that standard > NFS isn't secure. It's more secure in the sense that vouchsafe authentication is more secure than not having passwords at all. The question is in how you define, firewall, and administer vouchsafe secure zones. It is *possible* to do this in a reasonable way, even if many of us dislike the idea because the typical administrator does not have enough experience to do it correctly. It is a tightrope, and it is possible to walk a tightrope, but few people can do it correctly. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 14:28:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA26973 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:28:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA26966 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:28:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA04407 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:28:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:28:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Sorting Incoming Mail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've noticed that some people have different return addresses on e-mail depending on the mailing list to which they're posting, and presumably the incoming mail is sorted into folders or whatever depending on the address. This separates the personal mail, then, from mail to lists. This could be done by creating users for the various lists, but then one would have to log in as these various users to read the mail. Is there a better way to do this--e.g., using /etc/aliases and procmail (procmail seems rather complicated to set up)? Thanks Annelise From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 14:36:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA27571 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:36:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA27564 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:36:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA11337; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:33:44 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607032133.OAA11337@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: SMP supports. To: rashid@rk.ios.com (Rashid Karimov) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:33:44 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607011616.MAA09265@rk.ios.com> from "Rashid Karimov" at Jul 1, 96 12:16:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I haven't seen an answer for this, so I'll try. Note that I am a FreeBSD and SMP advocate, not a core team member. > when will guys at freebsd.org plug extra PPro(s) > into ftp.freebsd.org's Alder ? :))) No idea. I'm not involved. 8-). > where can we find most up-date info on SMP in > FreeBSD ? On the SMP mailing list. Youcan join by: echo "subscribe freebsd-smp" | mail majordomo@freebsd.org > How naturally does it go so far ? It works, with some scheduler issues outstanding, for low grain (single kernel entrancy) SMP. The scheduler issues are from the changeover from the Jack Vogel model to a more traditional (less advanced, less scalable, more cache-effective) scheduling model. > Any guidelines for current kernel developers ? > Locking ( semaphores/mutex'es) primitives to use ? None currently. There is some disagreement about how parallelization should be achieved above the low grain level. There are also some issues which need to be resolved in the Lite2 integration to enable additional patches to be applied without interfering with the integration effort. There are generally two camps: the scheduler camp, and the pushdown camp; I am a member of the pushdown camp, since I have worked on SMP kernels for over 4 years as a former Novell/USL employee, and I have seen that approach work in practice in SVR4.0.2 ES/MP (Unisys) and Solaris, SVR4.2 (UNixWare 2.x) and Sequent implementations. Jack Vogel (who currently works on the Solaris SMP kernel for SunSoft) is in the same camp, though he also has some radical (and generally unpopular, because of the attendant risk) ideas on scheduling, which trade off L1 and L2 cache coherency for *massive* scalability. With Intel processors, most of us agree that the APIC limitation of 5 bits makes 128 processors (Motorolla) the probable "high end", and we aren't aiming for the 1024-65536 (supescalar) processor hardware Jack was aiming at. I'm personally aiming at 64 processor PPC620 machines from a German Motorolla OEM, and at the 1GHz clock PPC chips that Motorolla has demonstrated operating in their Phoenix facility. > It looks to me that current kernel development > goes being completely SMP-unaware, even though full > SMP support is clearly future of FreeBSD project and > as I understand we already have working systems. Yes, that's true. From kernel reeentrancy, to simplified state management (single-entry/single-exit, etc.), there is not any enforcement of SMP-safe or multithreading capable coding styles for new code. I expect this will change as of 2.2, which is planned to include the SMP code into the main line code tree; John Dyson (among others) is already in posession of another contributors full-on kernel threading implementation. I'd like to add hooks for non-quantum-restrictive user-to-kernel thread mappings at some point in the future to ensure application scalability over many processors. This is expected to reduce context switching overhead for multithreading by a factor of three or more over the model used by Solaris/SVR4.2-ESMP. There are also VM pero processor pool locality changes that the Solaris/SVR4 VM SLAB allocation implementation can not take advantage of (this is the source of the anecdotal "8 processor limit" for Intel machines, and is based on increasing bus contention for the interprocessor synchronization to support the unified SLAB model). You shouldn't worry that we are still integrating non-reentrant, non-kernel-preemption-safe code into the tree at this point. If we are still doing that in 6-8 months, then you should start worrying. 8-). Regards, Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 14:50:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA28924 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:50:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA28910 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:50:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id WAA11139; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 22:48:26 +0100 (BST) To: Terry Lambert cc: ALHACK@am.pnu.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Caldera Linux In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jul 1996 14:03:03 PDT." <199607032103.OAA11252@phaeton.artisoft.com> Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 22:48:24 +0100 Message-ID: <11137.836430504@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert wrote in message ID <199607032103.OAA11252@phaeton.artisoft.com>: > > Or something similar to Cadera's Office Suite? > The Caldera Office Suite is largely runnable on FreeBSD as of 2.1.5, > since it directly supports Linux ELF binaries. Intermediate -stable > and -current (active developement trees) have supported Linux ELF > binaries for almost six months now. Sorry? AFAIK only -current can run ELF binaries... -stable (and hence 2.1.5) doesn't have the ELF ``image activator'' in /sys/kern. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 14:54:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA29226 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:54:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uswgco3.uswc.uswest.com (uswgco3.uswest.com [206.196.133.82]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA29218 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:54:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from egate.mnet.uswest.com (egate.mnet.uswest.com [151.116.23.138]) by uswgco3.uswc.uswest.com (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id PAA18365 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:53:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from easthub (easthub.mnet.uswest.com [151.117.26.86]) by egate.mnet.uswest.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA24337 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:53:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: by easthub.mnet.uswest.com (M-Net Hub.951228) Received: by acs.uswest.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA11565; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:07:27 -0500 Received: from astro.acs.uswest.com by acs.uswest.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA11552; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:07:25 -0500 Received: by astro.acs.uswest.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA27054; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:07:10 -0500 From: ptroot@uswest.com (Paul T. Root) Message-Id: <199607031907.OAA27054@astro.acs.uswest.com> Subject: Re: Sync clocks To: compland@ism.com.br (Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:07:10 -0500 (CDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607031840.PAA21801@unix1.ism.com.br> from "Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica" at Jul 3, 96 03:40:34 pm X-Organization: !nterprise Networking Services X-Phone: (612) 663-1979 X-Fax: (612) 663-8030 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 200 S. 5th St., Suite 1100 X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55402 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In a previous message, Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica said: > > Hi: > > I would like to sync the clocks of three FreeBSD boxes. Is it possible > to do that besides running cron scripts ? > > Thanks! > Helio. Use xntp. It's installed by default, and there is an entry for it in sysconfig (at least in 2.1-Release). -- Paul T. Root - USWEST !NTERPRISE Networking Service ptroot@uswest.com Why do we park on driveways and drive on parkways? From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 15:01:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA29677 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:01:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA29661 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:01:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id WAA11211; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 22:59:40 +0100 (BST) To: "K.V.S. Sankaram" cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jul 1996 14:31:44 -0800." Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 22:59:39 +0100 Message-ID: <11209.836431179@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "K.V.S. Sankaram" wrote in message ID : > > The two ioctl() macros SIOCGARP and SIOCSARP are not defined in any of > the include files. How to get the ethernet hardware address without these > macros ? Even Richard Stevens' book avoided mentioning these macros. Is > there any other way to get the hardware address ? The ``arp table'' as such no longer exists in FreeBSD (and other 4.4 lite based systems I believe). You should perhaps look at the source to programs such as `sbin/ifconfig' for clues. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 15:09:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA00467 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:09:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seldon.terminus.com (seldon.terminus.com [204.182.12.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA00459 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:09:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pm-lo-29.terminus.com by seldon.terminus.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/Chill_out) id AA28907; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:09:04 -0700 Message-Id: <31DAEF3A.731B@www.terminus.com> Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 15:07:54 -0700 From: Ron Baker Organization: exS Internet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: CD-ROM Install X-Url: http://www.cdrom.com/titles/freebsd.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I try to install via CD-ROM, but it doesn't get detected. Any suggestions? I also have a WinNT Server v3.51. What do I put in the media type for FTP install? My computer name is: p120 and domain is: skyhigh, the IP address is 10.1.1.1, and netmask is 255.0.0.0 I'm a real novice at this, so any help would greatly be appreciated. Cheers! Ron From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 15:14:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA00995 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:14:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA00986; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:14:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA11483; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:12:41 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607032212.PAA11483@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Caldera Linux To: gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG (Gary Palmer) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:12:41 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, ALHACK@am.pnu.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <11137.836430504@palmer.demon.co.uk> from "Gary Palmer" at Jul 3, 96 10:48:24 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Terry Lambert wrote in message ID > <199607032103.OAA11252@phaeton.artisoft.com>: > > > Or something similar to Cadera's Office Suite? > > > The Caldera Office Suite is largely runnable on FreeBSD as of 2.1.5, > > since it directly supports Linux ELF binaries. Intermediate -stable > > and -current (active developement trees) have supported Linux ELF > > binaries for almost six months now. > > Sorry? AFAIK only -current can run ELF binaries... -stable (and hence > 2.1.5) doesn't have the ELF ``image activator'' in /sys/kern. I thought this was one of the things in 2.1.5 -- the ability to run Quake? If not, it should be. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 15:15:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA01099 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:15:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA01084 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id XAA11281; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:15:14 +0100 (BST) To: Annelise Anderson cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Sorting Incoming Mail In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jul 1996 14:28:16 PDT." Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 23:15:12 +0100 Message-ID: <11279.836432112@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Annelise Anderson wrote in message ID : > This could be done by creating users for the various lists, but > then one would have to log in as these various users to read the > mail. Is there a better way to do this--e.g., using /etc/aliases > and procmail (procmail seems rather complicated to set up)? There are 2 solutions. procmail is what I personally use, but if you use MH or have MH installed, you can also use `slocal'. My procmail setup at the minute is fairly simple. If there is an `X-Loop:' header, it goes into an `in-freebsd' file, otherwise it gets dropped in my mailbox. That way personal mail (or urgent mail) is read first... Here is a bit of my older procmailrc which DOES separate out by lists: :0:/tmp/.maillock-hackers * ^Sender.*owner-freebsd-hackers /home/gpalmer/Mail/in-hackers :0:/tmp/.maillock-hackers * ^Sender.*owner-hackers /home/gpalmer/Mail/in-hackers :0:/tmp/.maillock-ports * ^Sender.*owner-freebsd-ports /home/gpalmer/Mail/in-ports :0:/tmp/.maillock-ports * ^Sender.*owner-ports /home/gpalmer/Mail/in-ports Note that I was never very sure which `owner' each list had, so I went with both just to be sure (I think at one point some lists had `owner-freebsd-foo' and others had `owner-foo', and I could never be bothered figuring out which was which :-) ) As I use the emacs MH interface, all I need to do then is hit CTRL-U i and select which maildrop I want to `inc' from. Whoops, nearly forgot: elm has a `filter' program too, but I would be careful of that one, it coredumps on mails with long Subject: lines. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 15:21:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA01778 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:21:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1-csl.csl.nutecnet.com.br (srv1-csl.csl.nutecnet.com.br [200.248.184.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA01727 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:21:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (dl0125-csl.csl.nutecnet.com.br [200.248.184.125]) by srv1-csl.csl.nutecnet.com.br (8.6.8.1/SCA-6.6) with SMTP id WAA04785 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 22:25:58 GMT Message-ID: <31623D93.464A@interage.com.br> Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 00:57:55 -0800 From: Alexandre Stumpf Organization: Interage Integradora X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01KIT (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Digiboard Xem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Is it possible to use a Digiboard Xem on FreeBSD ? I looked at digiboard.com and found a driver to BSDI, can I use it on FreeBSD? Thanks in advance Alexandre Stumpf stumpf@nutecnet.com.br From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 15:23:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA02009 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:23:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mistery.mcafee.com (jimd@mistery.mcafee.com [192.187.128.69]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA02004 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:23:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jimd@localhost) by mistery.mcafee.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA24532; Sat, 3 Jul 2010 15:28:56 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <201007032228.PAA24532@mistery.mcafee.com> Subject: Re: src tree owners To: fqueries@jraynard.demon.co.uk (James Raynard) Date: Sat, 3 Jul 110 15:28:56 -0700 (PDT) Cc: tcg@ime.net, dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607022008.UAA00658@jraynard.demon.co.uk> from "James Raynard" at Jul 2, 96 08:08:03 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > > On Unix, the `proper` way is for configuration files to be owned by > > > > root - it's not a good idea to allow just anybody to change them! > > > > > > I Agree! My question was/is about the Source tree! > > I originally wrote "critical files such as source code or > configuration files", then changed my mind and deleted the wrong bit. > Sorry about that :-( > > You might consider simply adding yourself to the 'bin' group > Yep, just edit /etc/group. > > (and setting the SGID bit on the directories). The default > Actually, there's no need to set the SGID bit on the directories, as > BSD systems automatically pass the group ownership on to any new > sub-directories created in the current directory - see mkdir(2). > > > configuration seems to leave the sources g+w and owned by > > root.bin. > > Something that just occurred to me - doesn't some network backup > software require a .rhosts file for the user "bin"? If so, doesn't > this leave the system source code potentially vulnerable? I agree. I was thinking of going in and chown'ing those to root.root or chmod'ing them them to 600. > > > In a multi-user environment you should consider installing > > tripwire and being particularly careful to monitor it for > > source tree changes. Anyone who can get a simply change into > > any source file -- and get 'root' to build it can effectively > > take control of the entire system. (This is true of the system > > binaries as well -- but more insidious). > Very true. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 15:30:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA02742 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:30:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (-@dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA02736 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:30:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA22544; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 17:30:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199607032230.RAA22544@dan.emsphone.com> Subject: Re: Termcap vs. screen To: dbabler@Rigel.orionsys.com (Dave Babler) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 17:30:41 -0500 (CDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Dave Babler" at Jul 3, 96 01:58:58 pm From: dnelson@emsphone.com (Dan Nelson) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk in the last episode, Dave Babler said: > I have been trying to get 'screen' to work. It makes okay, installs okay > but what keeps messing up is that no matter what I do, it ALWAYS wants to > use its own idea of the screen (SC) termcap/terminfo entry. I have the > termcap source, and have been modifying it for our use here. Almost all of > my users are running some sort of DOS ANSI emulation (not at all > compatable with vt100), and we have our own termcap for them. I also > incorporate the termcap (screencap) entries when I make the terminal > database, and the /etc/termcap file CLEARLY shows our replacement SC > terminal type (and there is only 1 entry for it in termcap), and you can > select it using stty and all is well... Until you try to run screen... at > which time it reverts to what I can only assume to be a compiled-in > termcap of it's own, regardless of what the man page says and regardless > of what the initial settings for $TERM and $TERMCAP are. Screen is doing what it's supposed to be doing. Screen is a terminal emulator. It translates the SC terminal codes (which happen to look like regular ANSI codes, but don't depend on that) into the codes for your particular terminal. For a while, I used screen on Heath/Zenith z19 terminals so I could run programs with VT100 codes hardcodes into them. What specifically is wrong with the builtin termcap entry? It describes exactly the capabilities of the SC terminal that screen emulates. You shouldn't even need the SC termcap entry in /etc/termcap, unless you're telnetting around to different machines. If screen output looks funny, it's probably a problem with the original termcap entry that screen read when it started, not with screen's internal termcap entry. -Dan Nelson dnelson@emsphone.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 15:47:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA04318 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from originat.demon.co.uk (originat.demon.co.uk [158.152.220.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA04276 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:46:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from paul@localhost) by originat.demon.co.uk (8.7.5/8.6.9) id XAA01097; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:46:02 +0100 (BST) From: Paul Richards Message-Id: <199607032246.XAA01097@originat.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: IDE+SCSI? To: shovey@buffnet.net (steve hovey) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:46:01 +0100 (BST) Cc: searle@longacre.demon.co.uk, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "steve hovey" at Jul 3, 96 02:39:07 pm Reply-to: paul@netcraft.co.uk X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to steve hovey who said > > On Wed, 3 Jul 1996, Michael Searle wrote: > > > Are there any problems with having a SCSI and IDE drives in the same > > computer under FreeBSD? The boot drive would be the SCSI, dual booting > > DOS/FreeBSD. There would be DOS and FreeBSD partitions on the IDE drive. > > I have mixed boxes the the boot drive must be the IDE I believe. If you disable the IDE drives in the BIOS then it'll boot from the scsi and FreeBSD will still find the IDE drives. I had this working on an old box of mine fine but you may have to fiddle around to get it to work. -- Paul Richards, Originative Solutions Ltd. Internet: paul@netcraft.co.uk, http://www.netcraft.co.uk Phone: 0370 462071 (Mobile), +44 1225 447500 (work) From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 15:55:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA05090 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:55:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.iafrica.com (root@chain.iafrica.com [196.31.1.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA05054 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:55:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (khetan@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chain.iafrica.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA06684 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 00:55:13 +0200 (SAT) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 00:55:13 +0200 (SAT) From: Khetan Gajjar To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: stable, current Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 28 Jun 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >Back when FreeBSD 2.0.5 was released, we branched FreeBSD development >into two parts: One branch was named -stable, with the intention that >only well-tested bug fixes and small incremental enhancements would be Hi. Just wanted to query this quickly : up until now I've been getting my diff files (cvs-cur.????.gz) and applying it with ctm to the cvs tree on my hard drive. As I understand it, this is the current tree. Can I then pull current sources from this tree ? What would I change the -r option to (right now its RELENG_2_1_0) ? I'm sorry if this makes absolutely no sense. I hope you can help, TIA, Regards, Khetan Gajjar. --- http://www.chain.iafrica.com/~khetan/ UUNet-Internet Africa Operations - 0800-030-002 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 15:59:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA05725 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:59:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Rigel.orionsys.com (root@rigel.orionsys.com [205.148.224.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA05720 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:59:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dbabler@localhost) by Rigel.orionsys.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id PAA00288; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 15:59:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Babler To: Dan Nelson cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Termcap vs. screen In-Reply-To: <199607032230.RAA22544@dan.emsphone.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 Jul 1996, Dan Nelson wrote: > in the last episode, Dave Babler said: > > I have been trying to get 'screen' to work. It makes okay, installs okay > > but what keeps messing up is that no matter what I do, it ALWAYS wants to > > use its own idea of the screen (SC) termcap/terminfo entry... > > Screen is doing what it's supposed to be doing. Screen is a terminal > emulator. It translates the SC terminal codes (which happen to look > like regular ANSI codes, but don't depend on that) into the codes for > your particular terminal. For a while, I used screen on Heath/Zenith > z19 terminals so I could run programs with VT100 codes hardcodes into > them. > > What specifically is wrong with the builtin termcap entry? It > describes exactly the capabilities of the SC terminal that screen > emulates. You shouldn't even need the SC termcap entry in > /etc/termcap, unless you're telnetting around to different machines. If > screen output looks funny, it's probably a problem with the original > termcap entry that screen read when it started, not with screen's > internal termcap entry. > The screen port supplies a termcap/terminfo definition (screencap) with comments in the make file to include it into the overall term database. As I mentioned, almost NONE of my users have vt100 emulation, so defaulting to the vt100 emulation is 100% worthless to them. I've redefined the screen termcap entry, included it and recompiled the termcap/terminfo database - screen simply does not use it. It always includes a magical (compiled in) version of vt100, regardless of what terminal type you start with (including cons25 and the actual, honest-to-god, live 'screen' type from termcap). The SC/screen definition has been edited to approximate the capabilities my users have, which means the entire entry has been essentially replaced with ":tc=ansibbs". -Dave From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 16:10:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA06654 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 16:10:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA06646 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 16:10:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net (mmdf@buffnet1.buffnet.net [205.246.19.10]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA21654 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 18:12:01 GMT Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net by buffnet1.buffnet.net id aa13026; 3 Jul 96 19:13 EDT Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 19:12:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve To: Randy Berndt cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Weird time change on reboot In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19960703151439.26cfa4b6@nething.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 Jul 1996, Randy Berndt wrote: > On one of the reboots of my machine (486/33, 2.0.5R), the date/time went > from Jun 28, 1996, 20:50:52, from the shutdown message to the log, to May > 23, 1929, 14:20:06 (I figure the :06 is boot time) from the system start > message to the log. > > OK, is this some magic date (like 0x000000 internally)? Any idea what happened? > > Other than the fact that 05/23/29 was my mothers 22nd birthday, I'm totally > lost. :) Well - if she is on 'the other side' it might be significant! From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 16:29:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA07849 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 16:29:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA07808 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 16:29:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA09572; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 18:29:10 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu: jfieber owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 18:29:10 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber X-Sender: jfieber@Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu To: Annelise Anderson cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sorting Incoming Mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 Jul 1996, Annelise Anderson wrote: > mail. Is there a better way to do this--e.g., using /etc/aliases > and procmail (procmail seems rather complicated to set up)? In my opinion, the procmail rules file is unnecessairly obtuse---it was probably designed for parsing efficiency, not human usability---but it is worth the effort of figuring it out. I get about 1400 message a week. Life without procmail would be utter hell. -john == jfieber@indiana.edu =========================================== == http://fallout.campusview.indiana.edu/~jfieber ================ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 16:50:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA09179 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 16:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from baygate.bayarea.net (baygate.bayarea.net [204.71.212.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA09174 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 16:50:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mcnab@localhost) by baygate.bayarea.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id QAA02671; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 16:44:12 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 16:44:12 -0700 From: David McNab Message-Id: <199607032344.QAA02671@baygate.bayarea.net> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: PentiumPro Motherboards Reply-to: David McNab Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've been asked to find a good P6 m/b for use in a set of FreeBSD machines we're buying instead of our usual overpriced SGI's. (No thanks, I would rather not pay $8,000 for 128MB of memory...) I've heard from reliable sources that the Intel Aurora (sorry, "Performance/AU") motherboard (sorry, "baseboard") works well with 200Mhz P6 (sorry, "PentiumPro") CPUs and FreeBSD. However, for some strange reason, I would /prefer/ not to buy Intel boards. So I've been looking at the ASUS P/E-P6RP7D board instead. It looks fine, except that the PCI chipset is listed as "Intel 82450GX (Orion)", whereas the Intel documentation on the Aurora board says it uses the "82450 PCISet" chipset, the sub-components of which all seem to end with "KX". Anyone know if the PCI chipset on the ASUS board the same as on the Aurora? Does the magic "GX" make all the difference? Anyone actually own or use one of these ASUS boards? (The main thing I'm concerned about is the PCI-write bug, although if there are other things to watch out for I'd like to hear about them.) BTW, I have found surprisingly little good information on motherboards out on the Web. Are there some good sites I'm missing, or is it just a confusing subject? -- Dave McNab From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 17:01:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA09815 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 17:01:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (-@dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA09808 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 17:01:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA23200; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 19:01:12 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199607040001.TAA23200@dan.emsphone.com> Subject: Re: Termcap vs. screen To: dbabler@Rigel.orionsys.com (Dave Babler) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 19:01:11 -0500 (CDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Dave Babler" at Jul 3, 96 03:59:38 pm From: dnelson@emsphone.com (Dan Nelson) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk in the last episode, Dave Babler said: > On Wed, 3 Jul 1996, Dan Nelson wrote: > > What specifically is wrong with the builtin termcap entry? It > > describes exactly the capabilities of the SC terminal that screen > > emulates. You shouldn't even need the SC termcap entry in > > /etc/termcap, unless you're telnetting around to different machines. If > > screen output looks funny, it's probably a problem with the original > > termcap entry that screen read when it started, not with screen's > > internal termcap entry. > > The screen port supplies a termcap/terminfo definition (screencap) with > comments in the make file to include it into the overall term database. > As I mentioned, almost NONE of my users have vt100 emulation, so > defaulting to the vt100 emulation is 100% worthless to them. I've But the screencap is not meant to describe your users' terminals at all. It's meant to describe screen's internal terminal. For example: Before I ran screen on my z19 terminals, I had a z19 termcap entry (TERM=z19) and a z19 terminal. After I ran screen, I had an SC termcap entry (TERM=screen). Screen ate the ansi sequences generated with the SC termcap entry and translated them into z19 sequences. You want to leave the screencap entries just as they are. They perfectly describe screen's emulated ANSI terminal, which is what they are supposed to do. > redefined the screen termcap entry, included it and recompiled the > termcap/terminfo database - screen simply does not use it. It always > includes a magical (compiled in) version of vt100, regardless of what So after you run screen, $TERM is vt100? It should be "screen", and $TERMCAP should read "SC|screen|VT 100/ANSI X3.64 virtual terminal...." What are the display problems you are having? -Dan Nelson dnelson@emsphone.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 17:32:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA11348 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 17:32:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.statsci.com ([198.145.127.110]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA11329 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 17:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from statsci.com by main.statsci.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ubcK8-000QYNC; Wed, 3 Jul 96 17:31 PDT Message-Id: X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 5/3/96 To: John Fieber cc: Annelise Anderson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sorting Incoming Mail References: In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jul 1996 18:29:10 -0500." Reply-to: scott@statsci.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 17:31:11 -0700 From: Scott Blachowicz Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk John Fieber wrote: > In my opinion, the procmail rules file is unnecessairly > obtuse---it was probably designed for parsing efficiency, not > human usability---but it is worth the effort of figuring it out. Personally, I prefer mailagent which, basically, uses a language I already know - perl. Has anyone done any comparisons between the two (mailagent vs procmail)? Is one more dangerous or have bigger gaps in functionality than the other? Or whatever? Scott Blachowicz Ph: 206/283-8802x240 Mathsoft (Data Analysis Products Div) 1700 Westlake Ave N #500 scott@statsci.com Seattle, WA USA 98109 Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 18:08:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA13393 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 18:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA13323 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 18:07:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id CAA11878; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 02:06:21 +0100 (BST) To: Terry Lambert cc: ALHACK@am.pnu.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Caldera Linux In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jul 1996 15:12:41 PDT." <199607032212.PAA11483@phaeton.artisoft.com> Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 02:06:19 +0100 Message-ID: <11876.836442379@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert wrote in message ID <199607032212.PAA11483@phaeton.artisoft.com>: > I thought this was one of the things in 2.1.5 -- the ability to run Quake? > > If not, it should be. Do I detect the first streak of a Quake addict in Terry? :-) No, I don't think it should go in ... full elf support makes quite a few changes in the system, and the latest -current linux emulator even more (and that is needed if you want to run quake). So it's a no-go, not this close to a release. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 18:35:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA14730 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 18:35:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gateway.snhhsc.milford.nh.us (root@snhhsc-gateway.jlc.net [199.201.159.190]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA14724 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 18:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from david (david.stuffage.com [206.183.134.2]) by gateway.snhhsc.milford.nh.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA13355 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 21:37:40 -0400 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960704013907.002c567c@gateway.snhhsc.milford.nh.us> X-Sender: davelist@gateway.snhhsc.milford.nh.us X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 21:39:07 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "David Reynolds (Mailing Lists)" Subject: alias file Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone see a problem with creating an alias file with over 20,000 entries? If no, what kind of RAM would you reccommend to run this? -- David Reynolds From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 18:39:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA14961 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 18:39:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rk.ios.com (rk.ios.com [198.4.75.55]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA14956 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 18:39:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rashid@localhost) by rk.ios.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA16179; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 21:37:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Rashid Karimov Message-Id: <199607040137.VAA16179@rk.ios.com> Subject: Re: PentiumPro Motherboards To: mcnab@bayarea.net Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 21:37:56 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607032344.QAA02671@baygate.bayarea.net> from "David McNab" at Jul 3, 96 04:44:12 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there folx, > > I've been asked to find a good P6 m/b for use in a > set of FreeBSD machines we're buying instead of our > usual overpriced SGI's. (No thanks, I would rather not > pay $8,000 for 128MB of memory...) > > I've heard from reliable sources that the Intel > Aurora (sorry, "Performance/AU") motherboard (sorry, > "baseboard") works well with 200Mhz P6 (sorry, > "PentiumPro") CPUs and FreeBSD. > > However, for some strange reason, I would /prefer/ > not to buy Intel boards. So I've been looking at the > ASUS P/E-P6RP7D board instead. It looks fine, except > that the PCI chipset is listed as "Intel 82450GX > (Orion)", whereas the Intel documentation on the Aurora > board says it uses the "82450 PCISet" chipset, the > sub-components of which all seem to end with "KX". > > Anyone know if the PCI chipset on the ASUS board > the same as on the Aurora? Does the magic "GX" make > all the difference? Anyone actually own or use one of > these ASUS boards? (The main thing I'm concerned about > is the PCI-write bug, although if there are other > things to watch out for I'd like to hear about them.) PPRo's aren't used widely yet , therefore there's relative shortage of info on the topic. I do use use PPro here and I use it for quite a time now. Yes it works , works fast and you can use ASUS single-CPU boards but BE CAREFULT to get MBs with fixed stepping! I had to change mines here ( ASUS was kind enough to do it). What bothers me is that 99% of those PPro MBs have only 3 or 4 PIC slots on them. Stupid. I'd like to have 3 or 4 SCSI adapters and 2 Fast Ethernets per box. Alder has more , but then again it is not available :( ALR has allegedly nice 4 CPU MB, but looks noone has tested it yet under real OS , which FreeBSD is an example of :)) Rashid. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 18:48:21 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA15565 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 18:48:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rk.ios.com (rk.ios.com [198.4.75.55]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA15559 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 18:48:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rashid@localhost) by rk.ios.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA16217; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 21:46:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Rashid Karimov Message-Id: <199607040146.VAA16217@rk.ios.com> Subject: Re: SMP supports. To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 21:46:04 -0400 (EDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607032133.OAA11337@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at Jul 3, 96 02:33:44 pm Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I haven't seen an answer for this, so I'll try. Note that I am a > FreeBSD and SMP advocate, not a core team member. Hats go off to Terry - it's great answer which addressed 90% of Qs I had on SMP in 4.4BSD(FreeBSD ? ). It's also important to lots of folx here, cause in a months to come looks like SMP systems gonna be sound investment and the only way to go for heavily-loaded systems ( though we can always reuse legacy :) single-CPUed systems at homes :) Rashid. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 19:18:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA16949 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 19:18:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from commerce.imagenet.on.ca ([207.107.36.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA16849 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 19:17:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from commerce.imagenet.on.ca (commerce.imagenet.on.ca [207.107.36.10]) by commerce.imagenet.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA15500; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 22:19:55 -0400 Message-ID: <31DB2A4B.52BFA1D7@iwds.com> Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 22:19:55 -0400 From: Stephen Couchman Organization: ImageNet Web Design Services Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org CC: Stephen.Couchman@iwds.com Subject: Iomega Jaz drive questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk (Note: I am resending this note, since I am having problems with my other mail account. Any and all help would be most appreciated.) I have just purchased a Jaz drive, and after reviewing the questions in the archive, I have a couple of my own: 1. How do I go about formatting the disk to be used as a Unix partition? I want to mount it so that I can backup my data to it. 2. Is there a resolution to the 'sleep' issue? If I access the drive after it has powered down, it causes a 'panic'. Would placing a simple 'ls' to /dev/null in cron work around the problem, or do I need to mount and unmount the drive? Are there any other issues that I should be looking out for? Thanks -- Stephen ______________________________________________________________________ Stephen.Couchman@iwds.com http://www.iwds.com/ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 19:25:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA17297 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 19:25:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twwells.com (twwells.com [199.79.159.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA17289 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 19:25:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by twwells.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0ube6C-000196C; Wed, 3 Jul 96 22:24 EDT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Subject: text to postscript Date: 3 Jul 1996 22:24:54 -0400 Lines: 5 Message-ID: <4rfa1m$ihr@twwells.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: twwells.com Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Someone recommended using a2ps as a filter so I can print regular text on my postscript printer. Alas, when I looked in the archive site specified in ports it wasn't there. I checked a few other places and didn't find it. So: where is it? What other choices are there? Any recommendations? From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 19:58:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA21531 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 19:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA21526 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 19:58:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id DAA12146; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 03:58:26 +0100 (BST) To: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: text to postscript In-reply-to: Your message of "03 Jul 1996 22:24:54 EDT." <4rfa1m$ihr@twwells.com> Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 03:58:26 +0100 Message-ID: <12144.836449106@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk T. William Wells wrote in message ID <4rfa1m$ihr@twwells.com>: > Someone recommended using a2ps as a filter so I can print regular > text on my postscript printer. Alas, when I looked in the archive > site specified in ports it wasn't there. I checked a few other > places and didn't find it. So: where is it? What other choices > are there? Any recommendations? Sorry? If it isn't on the master site specified in the port, it sure is on our site (ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/distfiles), as I was checking a2ps earlier today and it fetched from there fine (the way the machine I was using is set up it checks ftp.freebsd.org first, then the master site). You should just use the port anyhow. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 20:13:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA22628 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:13:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts13-line3.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.152]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA22623 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:13:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00246; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:13:02 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:13:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Ron Baker cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CD-ROM Install In-Reply-To: <31DAEF3A.731B@www.terminus.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 Jul 1996, Ron Baker wrote: > I try to install via CD-ROM, but it doesn't get detected. Any > suggestions? 1) Use ATAPI.FLP for the boot floppy image. If that doesn't work: 2) Move the CDROM around on the IDE bus(ses). ie master->slave, controller 1-> controller 2 and so on. > I also have a WinNT Server v3.51. What do I put in the media type for > FTP install? My computer name is: p120 and domain is: skyhigh, the IP > address is 10.1.1.1, and netmask is 255.0.0.0 Media type? FTP, of course. Make sure you set the ftp error option to 'retry' if you want to ftp a CD mounted on another machine. This forces sysinstall to try some alternate paths when searching for the distfiles. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 20:18:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA22809 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:18:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA22804; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:18:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA12045; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:16:06 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607040316.UAA12045@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Caldera Linux To: gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG (Gary Palmer) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:16:06 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, ALHACK@am.pnu.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <11876.836442379@palmer.demon.co.uk> from "Gary Palmer" at Jul 4, 96 02:06:19 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I thought this was one of the things in 2.1.5 -- the ability to run Quake? > > > > If not, it should be. > > Do I detect the first streak of a Quake addict in Terry? :-) No, you detect Terry wearing a competitive marketing hat. > No, I don't think it should go in ... full elf support makes quite a > few changes in the system, and the latest -current linux emulator even > more (and that is needed if you want to run quake). So it's a no-go, > not this close to a release. Well, then I'll call it a mistake to have not considered it before it was this close to release... 8-(. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 20:32:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA23639 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:32:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts13-line3.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.152]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA23634 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:32:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00266; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:32:48 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:32:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Carlo Strati cc: questions@freebsd.com Subject: Re: Help for FreeBSD review In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960703133255.0067c31c@equalis.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 Jul 1996, Carlo Strati wrote: > I'm a freelance technical editor working for PC Professionale (the italian > version of Ziff Davis' PC Magazine). Well, I'd like to write some articles > about FreeBSD, but I have some installation problems... Here's a chance to experience software support at it's best. :-) I want to add on to what Terry wrote earlier. > I have FreeBSD 2.0.5 on Walnut Creek's CD-ROM. I install it onto my second > hard drive with the FreeBSD boot manager; the installation goes well and the > PC boots right with the boot manager. But when I ask to boot with FreeBSD, > after the correct recognition of all the devices, I get the following > messages: "changing root device to wd1a" and "panic: cannot mount root". > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This is the current configuration of my system: > > = First disk (primary EIDE channel, master) = > Quantum FireBall 1280MB: 100% of space Primary DOS Partition (C:) > > = Second disk (secondary EIDE channel, master) = > Quantum FireBall 1280MB: - 800MB Extended DOS Partition > (200MB for D: and 600MB for E:) > - 480MB FreeBSD Partition > (250MB for /, 120MB for /usr and 90MB for swap) > > = CD ROM = > Plextor 6X SCSI controlled by Adaptec AHA2940 > > = VGA = > S3 based board (I can use NumeberNine Motion 771 with S3-968 or Diamond > Stealth 2000 3D with ViRGE, both with 2MB of memory) > > = CPU & Memory = > Intel Pentium 133 with 32MB of RAM > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > May be I can't install FreeBSD onto secondary EIDE channel? Or what else > goes wrong? I've tried to re-install FreeBSD, but nothing changes. I've also > tried to force the boot with "hd(2,a)/kernel" but it hangs... What can I do? Terry's advice of moving the disks around is the best. PCs weren't designed to boot from anything but the primary IDE channel, which is why you're having problems. Since you only have one disk on each bus and the CDROM is SCSI, why not put both disks on the primary channel and spare yourself the pain? :-) I guess you're buying yourself a little speed having the DOS partitions split between two spindles, but DOS performs so poorly that I doubt you'd see it. My system is very similar to yours (NCR SCSI instead of Adaptec) and I ran for several months on a 2 disk system, the first (a 1080MB WD) a DOS/OS/2 disk and the second (a 540mb Maxtor) dedicated to FreeBSD less 50mb for OS/2 swap. Never a problem (using OS/2's Boot Manager). > I'd really like to have FreeBSD on my PC to let the readers know the > advantages of Unix-like systems and FreeBSD itself as a good alternative to > Linux, so please help me as soon as possible. Is same day soon enough? :-) Hope this helps. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 20:53:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA24888 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:53:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts13-line3.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.152]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA24879 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00292; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:51:10 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:51:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Administrator cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: IP over parrallel port In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 Jul 1996, Administrator wrote: > I am wondering if there is aguide anywhere about how to run IP between to > parallel ports using a laplink cable. I read in the installation guide > that you can install FreeBSD this way if you have a nother FreeBSD box > handy but it makes no reference to what has to be done on the existing > box to enable such a setup. This will be a shot in the dark. 1) You need a laplink cable, obviously :-) 2) If the pc has a parallel port that FreeBSD detects you'll see something like lp0: TCP/IP capable interface during the boot probe. 3) For media, select 'ftp' (????) and select 'lp0' as the network device. You'll have to have the install info set up in an ftp server (or other network access) on the server machine. 4) Should act like a net install, will want ip address and notwhat. That is a total guess :-) Sorry for the assumptions but I think this is fairly accurate. Instructions may be in the Handbook or in sysinstall's help system. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 20:57:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA25209 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:57:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts13-line3.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.152]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA25204 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:57:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA00309; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:57:47 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:57:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Bala Periasamy cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Majordomo problem (help) In-Reply-To: <199607030909.TAA01628@skeg.cst.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 Jul 1996, Bala Periasamy wrote: > syslog error: > swap_pager: out of space > Process 192 killed by vm_fault -- out of swap > pid 196: perl: uid 54: exited on signal 11 > > > mail returned with the following error > > Message delivered to mailing list majordomo > Out of memory! > Killed > 554 "|/usr/home/majordom/wrapper majordomo"... unknown mailer error > 137 > > Any help on this will be useful Uh, you ran out of swap? check swapinfo. Maybe reboot if you haven't lately. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 21:12:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA26195 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 21:12:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts13-line3.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.152]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA26190 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 21:12:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA00333; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 21:12:08 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 21:12:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Randy Berndt cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Weird time change on reboot In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19960703151439.26cfa4b6@nething.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 Jul 1996, Randy Berndt wrote: > On one of the reboots of my machine (486/33, 2.0.5R), the date/time went > from Jun 28, 1996, 20:50:52, from the shutdown message to the log, to May > 23, 1929, 14:20:06 (I figure the :06 is boot time) from the system start > message to the log. > Just a fluke, I'd guess. I've known my machine to magically change the date and time and it makes cron real happy :-) If it happens regularly then I'd have your CMOS battery checked. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 21:13:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA26274 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 21:13:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts13-line3.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.152]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA26269 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 21:13:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA00340; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 21:13:37 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 21:13:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Kurt A Augustine cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: where might libc.so.3.0 be? In-Reply-To: <31DA5B8B.41C67EA6@aimnet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 Jul 1996, Kurt A Augustine wrote: > it seems that the packages xv-3.10a and wine-96.06.11 need libc.so.3.0. > could you take pity on a burgeoning novice and tell me if some other > package will install this library and/or where I might obtain it? Small carryover problem from -current. They had to up the revision on it. You can copy libc.so.2.2 to libc.so.3.0 safely. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 21:33:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA27432 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 21:33:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyberport.com (root@puma.cyberport.com [204.134.75.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA27427 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 21:33:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hippo.cyberport.com (kevin@hippo.cyberport.com [204.134.75.2]) by cyberport.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA29532 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 22:33:40 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 22:33:40 -0600 (MDT) From: Kevin Rosenberg To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: How to set INN datasize > 64MB Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am using 2.1-STABLE on a 128MB P90 system. INN dies when it tries to allocate more memory than 64MB. Using ulimit and limit, I have not been able to raise the datasize > 64MB, and I don't see a kernel configuration option to set the maximum process datasize like BSD/OS v2.1. I'd sure appreciate it if someone could let me know how to give INN more memory!! TIA. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Kevin Rosenberg | CyberPort Station Chief System Administrator | The Finest Internet Service Possible! kevin@cyberport.com | http://www.cyberport.com Finger kevin@cyberport.com for PGP Public Key -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 21:36:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA27647 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 21:36:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spoon.beta.com (root@[199.165.180.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA27640 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 21:36:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spoon.beta.com (mcgovern@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spoon.beta.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id AAA13070 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 00:36:17 -0400 Message-Id: <199607040436.AAA13070@spoon.beta.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Interface info... Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 00:36:17 -0400 From: "Brian J. McGovern" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Are there any prebuilt functions for looking at the packet info of an Ethernet interface (a la netstat)? Just curious, as i can look at the filesystem(s) with fsstat. Thanks. -Brian From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 21:48:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA28698 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 21:48:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from joshua.cco.net (tinman@joshua.cco.net [206.65.209.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA28690 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 21:48:27 -0700 (PDT) From: tinman@cco.net Received: (from tinman@localhost) by joshua.cco.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA29337; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 21:48:24 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 21:48:24 -0700 Message-Id: <199607040448.VAA29337@joshua.cco.net> To: questions@freebsd.org X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2.5 X-Personal_name: Neal Stone Subject: Windows and DOS for Free BSD Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk A few quick questions. Can I run MS DOS, Windows 3.X and Windows '95 programs in FreeBSD? Also, what are the system requirements? Neal From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 21:59:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA29156 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 21:59:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA29150; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 21:59:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA05173; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 21:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 21:59:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: Gary Palmer cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Sorting Incoming Mail In-Reply-To: <11279.836432112@palmer.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 Jul 1996, Gary Palmer wrote: > There are 2 solutions. procmail is what I personally use, but if you > use MH or have MH installed, you can also use `slocal'. My procmail > setup at the minute is fairly simple. If there is an `X-Loop:' header, > it goes into an `in-freebsd' file, otherwise it gets dropped in my > mailbox. That way personal mail (or urgent mail) is read first... > > Here is a bit of my older procmailrc which DOES separate out by lists: > > :0:/tmp/.maillock-hackers > * ^Sender.*owner-freebsd-hackers > /home/gpalmer/Mail/in-hackers > :0:/tmp/.maillock-hackers > * ^Sender.*owner-hackers > /home/gpalmer/Mail/in-hackers > :0:/tmp/.maillock-ports > * ^Sender.*owner-freebsd-ports > /home/gpalmer/Mail/in-ports > :0:/tmp/.maillock-ports > * ^Sender.*owner-ports > /home/gpalmer/Mail/in-ports > > Note that I was never very sure which `owner' each list had, so I went > with both just to be sure (I think at one point some lists had > `owner-freebsd-foo' and others had `owner-foo', and I could never be > bothered figuring out which was which :-) ) > > As I use the emacs MH interface, all I need to do then is hit CTRL-U i > and select which maildrop I want to `inc' from. > > Whoops, nearly forgot: elm has a `filter' program too, but I would be > careful of that one, it coredumps on mails with long Subject: lines. > > Gary I got procmail working with pine 3.94--thanks to this fine help including the "cheat sheet." It's terrific! Couldn't have done that on the VAX where my mail usually goes. Annelise From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 23:19:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA04335 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:19:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from s4.elec.uq.edu.au (haytham@s4.elec.uq.edu.au [130.102.96.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA04316; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:18:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from haytham@localhost) by s4.elec.uq.edu.au (8.7.1/8.6.12) id QAA13544; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 16:18:07 +1000 (EST) From: Haytham Algyndy Message-Id: <199607040618.QAA13544@s4.elec.uq.edu.au> Subject: magic port compilation problems To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 16:18:07 +1000 (EST) Cc: ports@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi I was trying to install magic, and I am not able to. when making install in the ports/cad/magic dir, I get errors saying that the work/magic-6.4.4 couldn't be cd to. when I make it, there seems a problem in applying the patchs. My system is a 486DX2 running stable. Thanks in advance. Haytham ________________________________________________________________________ Haytham Abd-Alsalam Algyndy Dept. of Elec. and Comp. Eng. The UNIVERSITY of QUEENSLAND Brisbane 4072, Queensland Australia haytham@elec.uq.edu.au tel. 61 - 07 - 365 356 4 (AW) Fax. 61 - 07 - 365 499 9 ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 23:31:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA04826 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:31:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebsd.gaffaneys.com ([134.129.252.25]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA04821 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:31:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from zach@localhost) by freebsd.gaffaneys.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA01932; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 01:31:50 -0500 To: Annelise Anderson Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sorting Incoming Mail References: From: Zach Heilig Date: 04 Jul 1996 01:31:49 -0500 In-Reply-To: Annelise Anderson's message of Wed, 3 Jul 1996 14:28:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <87ohlwttpm.fsf@freebsd.gaffaneys.com> Lines: 39 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.2.32/Emacs 19.31 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Annelise Anderson writes: > I've noticed that some people have different return addresses on > e-mail depending on the mailing list to which they're posting, > and presumably the incoming mail is sorted into folders or whatever > depending on the address. This separates the personal mail, then, > from mail to lists. > This could be done by creating users for the various lists, but > then one would have to log in as these various users to read the > mail. Is there a better way to do this--e.g., using /etc/aliases > and procmail (procmail seems rather complicated to set up)? I happen to sort my incoming mail through emacs gnus 5.2.32 (I think that's the version).. Of course the whole thing adds about 4Meg to emacs core image, but that's another story. It sorts mail into virtual newsgroups, and reading mail becomes just like reading usenet news. It is very mailing-list friendly, if I do a (r)eply, it would only go to the sender, or if I (f)ollowup, it Cc:'s it to the list automagically. Here is a sample entry: (setq nnmail-split-methods '(("freebsd.questions" "^Sender:.*questions@FreeBSD.*"))) The first is a virtual newsgroup name, the second a regexp applied to the headers to figure out if it goes in that group. There are a few other variables to set as well, but the info files explain it pretty good. The wierd thing is when I set it up, it wouldn't work no matter how much I fiddled with it, then for some reason I rebooted, and all of a sudden, it worked. Odd, isn't it? (I think it has to do with having the sticky-bit set on the emacs executable, and having just upgraded from gnus 5.0.4 or something.. it might be modifing the already loaded core image). -- Zach Heilig (zach@blizzard.gaffaneys.com) Support bacteria -- it's the only culture some people have! ALL unsolicited >commercial< email is subject to a $100 proof-reading fee. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Jul 3 23:46:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA05601 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:46:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flopsy.hobart.TASed.EDU.AU (root@flopsy.hobart.TASed.EDU.AU [147.41.41.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA05592 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 23:46:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by flopsy.hobart.TASed.EDU.AU (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA01338; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 16:46:38 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 16:46:37 +1000 (EST) From: Administrator Reply-To: Administrator To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: IP over parrallel port In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 Jul 1996, Doug White wrote: > 3) For media, select 'ftp' (????) and select 'lp0' as the network > device. You'll have to have the install info set up in an ftp server (or > other network access) on the server machine. So to install by parrallel the distribution must be on the machine your connecting to? I cant hook the other machine up and tell it to install from ftp4.au.freebsd.org? It occurs to me that using lpt0 wouldnt be any different to adding say ed1 and I can do all the same things using ifconfig? If this is the case then I can probably work it out from the man pages. If this is the case then I can answer the above question myself :-) > Sorry for the assumptions but I think this is fairly accurate. > Instructions may be in the Handbook or in sysinstall's help system. The only help I could find in either of these places was talkin about PPP over serial lines and then said if you can you might like to install over parallel because you can get ~50K/s. That was all it said about parrallel. If there is help somewhere and I missed it pointeers would be gratefully received. I might try and keep a log of how I did it if I get it working and put it on the web somewhere in case other people try this...perhaps they do but its not really as hard as it looks. Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 00:03:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA06439 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 00:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA06410 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 00:03:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by root.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id AAA01725; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 00:03:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607040703.AAA01725@root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: Host localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Kevin Rosenberg cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to set INN datasize > 64MB In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jul 1996 22:33:40 MDT." From: David Greenman Reply-To: davidg@root.com Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 00:03:13 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >I am using 2.1-STABLE on a 128MB P90 system. INN dies when it tries to >allocate more memory than 64MB. Using ulimit and limit, I have not been >able to raise the datasize > 64MB, and I don't see a kernel configuration >option to set the maximum process datasize like BSD/OS v2.1. > >I'd sure appreciate it if someone could let me know how to give INN more >memory!! Take a look at /sys/i386/include/vmparam.h. You want to change MAXDSIZ and possibly DFLDSIZ and MAXSSIZ. Don't touch the others. :-) -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 00:10:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA06751 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 00:10:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MediaCity.com (root@easy1.mediacity.com [205.216.172.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA06745 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 00:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brian@localhost) by MediaCity.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id AAA19952 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 00:08:44 -0700 From: Brian Litzinger Message-Id: <199607040708.AAA19952@MediaCity.com> Subject: Job opportunities for FreeBSD admins and developers To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 00:08:43 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: brian@MediaCity.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk MediaCity, the company I work for, is looking for people familiar with FreeBSD administration/networking and/or development who are interested in full or part-time positions within or outside the company. MediaCity is looking both for people willing work at the major HUB offices: Chicago, Indianapolous (sp), Mountain View, CA, and for people interested in telecommuting from home. MediaCity operates 24 hour NOCs and some position will also be available for swing and grave shift admins. Administrator positions are not technical support positions, MediaCity has a technical support department which is seperate from admin and development. Administrators will likely also be working with CISCO (core routers) and Ascend (border routers and customer interface equipment) products. If you are interested in any of the above, send me an email. If you are interested in a technical support position you can email me also, and I'll forward your email to the head of technical support. Compensation is available over a wide range. Company has a stock option plan + other benefits. MediaCity World, Inc. is a wholly owned subsidiary of Softnet Systems, Inc. which is a publically traded company (AMEX:SOF). -- Brian Litzinger Powered by FreeBSD http[s]://www.mpress.com From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 00:33:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA08048 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 00:33:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA08034 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 00:33:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA05495; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 00:33:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 00:33:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Charlie ROOT To: Zach Heilig cc: Annelise Anderson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sorting Incoming Mail In-Reply-To: <87ohlwttpm.fsf@freebsd.gaffaneys.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Zach Heilig wrote: > I happen to sort my incoming mail through emacs gnus 5.2.32 (I think > that's the version).. Of course the whole thing adds about 4Meg to > emacs core image, but that's another story. It sorts mail into > virtual newsgroups, and reading mail becomes just like reading usenet > news. It is very mailing-list friendly, if I do a (r)eply, it would > only go to the sender, or if I (f)ollowup, it Cc:'s it to the list > automagically. Here is a sample entry: > > (setq nnmail-split-methods > '(("freebsd.questions" "^Sender:.*questions@FreeBSD.*"))) > > The first is a virtual newsgroup name, the second a regexp applied to > the headers to figure out if it goes in that group. There are a few > other variables to set as well, but the info files explain it pretty > good. > > The wierd thing is when I set it up, it wouldn't work no matter how > much I fiddled with it, then for some reason I rebooted, and all of a > sudden, it worked. Odd, isn't it? (I think it has to do with having > the sticky-bit set on the emacs executable, and having just upgraded > from gnus 5.0.4 or something.. it might be modifing the already loaded > core image). > > Zach Heilig (zach@blizzard.gaffaneys.com) Now that's cool Zach, then you get threads too. Another reason for emacs. What I don't quite get is subscribing to different groups under different names--e.g., instead of subscribing to doc as andrsn@ andrsn.stanford.edu, I'd subscribe as fdocs@andrsn.stanford.edu, create a user (without a valid shell or some such, so even if the user had a password it would never need to be used) named fdocs, and then use procmail to sort all mail to fdocs into the appropriate folder/file in /usr/home/andrsn. Is that how people do it? Annelise From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 01:00:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA09732 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 01:00:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de [132.180.20.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA09727 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 01:00:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (8.7.5/8.6.12) id JAA20885; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 09:58:18 GMT From: Werner Griessl Message-Id: <199607040958.JAA20885@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de> Subject: Re: setting up wu-ftpd To: info@adn.edu.ph (Information Help Desk) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 09:58:17 +0000 () Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from Information Help Desk at "Jul 3, 96 10:21:22 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > HI !!! > > I was setting up our ftp server in a fbsd box and ported wu-ftpd. > I got it installed and done all the changes in the inetd.conf. > > What I did not get to work was the TAR and COMPRESS. I tried the command > below which is supposed to work, > > get .tar.gz > > Usually what came out was, > > No such file or directory. > > I have even followed the INSTALL instructions in the distribution. But, I > haven't got it to work. > > > Thank you. > > > -- > jf > Have the same problem here. Compress on the fly isn't working ! I'm also need the solution. Werner From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 02:21:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA14506 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 02:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.iafrica.com (root@chain.iafrica.com [196.31.1.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA14494 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 02:21:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (khetan@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chain.iafrica.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA02239; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 11:14:29 +0200 (SAT) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 11:14:28 +0200 (SAT) From: Khetan Gajjar To: Werner Griessl cc: Information Help Desk , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: setting up wu-ftpd In-Reply-To: <199607040958.JAA20885@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Werner Griessl wrote: >Have the same problem here. Compress on the fly isn't working ! >I'm also need the solution. I've just tried it as anonymous, and it isn't working :-( It works when I log in. I changed ftpconversions so that it would point to the calling files from /usr/ftp/bin, and made executeable. Another problem I've having is loggine. I execute it with ftpd -ll and in my syslogd set up ftp.* to /var/log/ftpd, but get nothing - only an xferlog Regards, Khetan Gajjar. --- http://www.chain.iafrica.com/~khetan/ UUNet-Internet Africa Operations - 0800-030-002 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 03:15:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA17554 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 03:15:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de [132.180.20.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA17494 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 03:14:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (8.7.5/8.6.12) id MAA00938; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 12:03:00 GMT From: Werner Griessl Message-Id: <199607041203.MAA00938@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de> Subject: Re: setting up wu-ftpd To: khetan@iafrica.com (Khetan Gajjar) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 12:02:59 +0000 () Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from Khetan Gajjar at "Jul 4, 96 11:14:28 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Werner Griessl wrote: > > >Have the same problem here. Compress on the fly isn't working ! > >I'm also need the solution. > > I've just tried it as anonymous, and it isn't working :-( > > It works when I log in. I changed ftpconversions so that it > would point to the calling files from /usr/ftp/bin, and made executeable. > > Another problem I've having is loggine. I execute it with ftpd -ll > and in my syslogd set up ftp.* to /var/log/ftpd, but get nothing - only > an xferlog > > Regards, > Khetan Gajjar. > > --- > http://www.chain.iafrica.com/~khetan/ > UUNet-Internet Africa > Operations - 0800-030-002 > > Found the solution now ! Changing /usr/local/etc/ftpaccess from compress yes local remote tar yes local remote to compress yes all local remote tar yes all local remote does the job for me ! Werner From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 03:36:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA18538 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 03:36:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arneis.intelnet.vol.it (arneis.intelnet.vol.it [194.166.29.62]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA18532 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 03:36:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gio@localhost) by arneis.intelnet.vol.it (8.6.11/8.6.9) id MAA10651; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 12:36:20 +0200 Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 12:36:19 +0200 (MET DST) From: Giorgio Cico To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: HELP requested on iij-ppp Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk HELP !!! I need to configure a FBSD box as an access server, connecting two modem to the two Com ports. I followed the manual in the section 'Receiving incoming ppp connections' but it doesn't works well. The address of the box is 194.166.29.199 (255.255.255.0) I want the ppp connection address be 194.166.29.160/161 I want all packet sent to my default router (194.166.29.1) I inserted the address 194.166.29.162 as the address of the box during the connection: I'm not sure if it is correct/necessary, but, otherwise, the box succesfully negotiates an address of 0.0.0.0 . this is the result of the session on the client (Trumpet on Windows 3.11) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Trumpet Winsock Version 2.0 Revision B Copyright (c) 1993,1994 by Peter R. Tattam All Rights Reserved. THIS IS AN UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE VERSION FOR EVALUATION ONLY. PPP[C021] state = starting PPP[C023] state = starting PPP[8021] state = starting PPP ENABLED Internal SLIP driver COM1 Baud rate = 38400 Hardware handshaking Compression enabled IP buffers = 32 My IP = 0.0.0.0 netmask = 0.0.0.0 gateway = 0.0.0.0 Manually dialing. AFTER LOGGING IN, TYPE THE KEY TO RETURN TO NORMAL SLIP PROCESSING. PPP DISABLED atdt803480667 CONNECT 26400/ARQ FreeBSD (test.intelnet.vol.it) (ttyd1) login: ppp Password: User Process PPP. Written by Toshiharu OHNO. Log level is 09 Using interface: tun0 Packet mode enabled. ~}#@!}!}!} }8}(}"}'}"}"}&} } } } }!}$}%\}%}&!}8Xo~PPP ENABLED PPP[C021] SND CONFREQ ID=01 LEN=24 MRU(05DC) ACCM(00000000) MAGIC(000144D4) PFC ACFC PPP[C021] state = reqsent PPP frame check error, 29 PPP[C021] RCV CONFREQ ID=02 LEN=24 ACFC PFC ACCM(00000000) MRU(05DC) MAGIC(82A118D8) PPP[C021] SND CONFACK ID=02 LEN=24 ACFC PFC ACCM(00000000) MRU(05DC) MAGIC(82A118D8) PPP[C021] state = acksent PPP frame check error, 18 PPP[C021] SND PROTREJ ID=01 LEN=12 data 80 FD 01 01 00 06 01 02 PPP[C021] SND CONFREQ ID=02 LEN=24 MRU(05DC) ACCM(00000000) MAGIC(0001510F) PFC ACFC PPP[C021] RCV ECHOREQ ID=03 LEN=16 data 82 A1 18 D8 59 4E 4F 54 00 00 00 00 PPP[C021] RCV CONFREQ ID=04 LEN=24 ACFC PFC ACCM(00000000) MRU(05DC) MAGIC(82A118D8) PPP[C021] SND CONFACK ID=04 LEN=24 ACFC PFC ACCM(00000000) MRU(05DC) MAGIC(82A118D8) PPP[C021] RCV CONFACK ID=02 LEN=24 MRU(05DC) ACCM(00000000) MAGIC(0001510F) PFC ACFC PPP[C021] state = opened PPP[8021] SND CONFREQ ID=01 LEN=16 IPCP(002D0F01) IPADDR(00000000) PPP[8021] state = reqsent PPP[8021] RCV CONFNAK ID=01 LEN=10 IPADDR(C2A61DA0) My IP address = 194.166.29.160 PPP[8021] SND CONFREQ ID=02 LEN=16 IPCP(002D0F01) IPADDR(C2A61DA0) PPP[8021] RCV CONFACK ID=02 LEN=16 IPCP(002D0F01) IPADDR(C2A61DA0) PPP[8021] state = ackrcvd PPP[8021] RCV CONFREQ ID=02 LEN=16 IPADDR(C2A61DA2) IPCP(002D0F00) PPP[8021] SND CONFACK ID=02 LEN=16 IPADDR(C2A61DA2) IPCP(002D0F00) PPP[8021] state = opened state = syn_sent *** *** here I am tring a telnet to 194.166.29.62 *** 0 IP 194.166.29.160 ->194.166.29.62 len 44 prot 6 126.3 1024->23 seq 00000000 SYN wind 4096 opt 020405B4 0 IP 194.166.29.160 ->194.166.29.62 len 44 prot 6 131.4 1024->23 seq 00000000 SYN wind 4096 opt 020405B4 0 IP 194.166.29.160 ->194.166.29.62 len 44 prot 6 141.4 1024->23 seq 00000000 SYN wind 4096 opt 020405B4 state = closed --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------- /var/log/ppp.log ------------------------ 07-04 10:58:52 [140] Using interface: tun0 07-04 10:58:52 [140] Listening at 3000. 07-04 10:58:52 [140] PPP Started. 07-04 10:58:52 [140] Packet mode enabled 07-04 10:58:52 [140] LCP: state change Initial --> Closed 07-04 10:58:52 [140] LCP: SendConfigReq 07-04 10:58:52 [140] ACFCOMP 07-04 10:58:52 [140] PROTOCOMP 07-04 10:58:52 [140] ACCMAP [6] 00000000 07-04 10:58:52 [140] MRU [4] 1500 07-04 10:58:52 [140] MAGICNUM [6] 82a118d8 07-04 10:58:52 [140] LCP: state change Closed --> Req-Sent 07-04 10:58:53 [140] *Connected! 07-04 10:58:53 [140] LCP: Received Configure Request (1) state = Req-Sent (6) 07-04 10:58:53 [140] MRU 1500 07-04 10:58:53 [140] ACCMAP 00000000 07-04 10:58:53 [140] MAGICNUM 000144d4 07-04 10:58:53 [140] PROTOCOMP 07-04 10:58:53 [140] ACFCOMP 07-04 10:58:53 [140] LCP: SendConfigAck(Req-Sent) 07-04 10:58:53 [140] MRU 1500 07-04 10:58:53 [140] ACCMAP 00000000 07-04 10:58:53 [140] MAGICNUM 000144d4 07-04 10:58:53 [140] PROTOCOMP 07-04 10:58:53 [140] ACFCOMP 07-04 10:58:53 [140] LCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Sent 07-04 10:58:55 [140] LCP: SendConfigReq 07-04 10:58:55 [140] ACFCOMP 07-04 10:58:55 [140] PROTOCOMP 07-04 10:58:55 [140] ACCMAP [6] 00000000 07-04 10:58:55 [140] MRU [4] 1500 07-04 10:58:55 [140] MAGICNUM [6] 82a118d8 07-04 10:58:55 [140] LCP: Received Configure Ack (2) state = Ack-Sent (8) 07-04 10:58:55 [140] LCP: state change Ack-Sent --> Opend 07-04 10:58:55 [140] LCP: LayerUp 07-04 10:58:55 [140] Phase: Authenticate 07-04 10:58:55 [140] his = 0, mine = 0 07-04 10:58:55 [140] Phase: Network 07-04 10:58:55 [140] IPCP: state change Initial --> Closed 07-04 10:58:55 [140] IPCP Up event!! 07-04 10:58:55 [140] IPCP: SendConfigReq 07-04 10:58:55 [140] IPADDR [6] 194.166.29.162 07-04 10:58:55 [140] COMPPROTO [6] 002d0f00 07-04 10:58:55 [140] IPCP: state change Closed --> Req-Sent 07-04 10:58:55 [140] CCP: state change Initial --> Closed 07-04 10:58:55 [140] CCP Up event!! 07-04 10:58:55 [140] CCP: SendConfigReq 07-04 10:58:55 [140] CCP: state change Closed --> Req-Sent 07-04 10:58:56 [140] LCP: Received Protocol Reject (1) state = Opend (9) 07-04 10:58:56 [140] -- Protocol (80fd) was rejected. 07-04 10:58:56 [140] CCP: LayerFinish. 07-04 10:58:56 [140] CCP: state change Req-Sent --> Stopped 07-04 10:58:56 [140] LCP: Received Configure Request (2) state = Opend (9) 07-04 10:58:56 [140] MRU 1500 07-04 10:58:56 [140] ACCMAP 00000000 07-04 10:58:56 [140] MAGICNUM 0001510f 07-04 10:58:56 [140] PROTOCOMP 07-04 10:58:56 [140] ACFCOMP 07-04 10:58:56 [140] LCP: LayerDown 07-04 10:58:56 [140] Phase: Terminate 07-04 10:58:56 [140] LCP: SendConfigReq 07-04 10:58:56 [140] ACFCOMP 07-04 10:58:56 [140] PROTOCOMP 07-04 10:58:56 [140] ACCMAP [6] 00000000 07-04 10:58:56 [140] MRU [4] 1500 07-04 10:58:56 [140] MAGICNUM [6] 82a118d8 07-04 10:58:56 [140] LCP: SendConfigAck(Opend) 07-04 10:58:56 [140] MRU 1500 07-04 10:58:56 [140] ACCMAP 00000000 07-04 10:58:56 [140] MAGICNUM 0001510f 07-04 10:58:56 [140] PROTOCOMP 07-04 10:58:56 [140] ACFCOMP 07-04 10:58:56 [140] LCP: state change Opend --> Ack-Sent 07-04 10:58:57 [140] LCP: Received Configure Ack (4) state = Ack-Sent (8) 07-04 10:58:57 [140] LCP: state change Ack-Sent --> Opend 07-04 10:58:57 [140] LCP: LayerUp 07-04 10:58:57 [140] Phase: Authenticate 07-04 10:58:57 [140] his = 0, mine = 0 07-04 10:58:57 [140] Phase: Network 07-04 10:58:57 [140] IPCP: Oops, Up at Req-Sent 07-04 10:58:57 [140] IPCP Up event!! 07-04 10:58:57 [140] CCP: Oops, Up at Stopped 07-04 10:58:57 [140] CCP Up event!! 07-04 10:58:57 [140] IPCP: Received Configure Request (1) state = Req-Sent (6) 07-04 10:58:57 [140] COMPPROTO[6] 002d0f01 07-04 10:58:57 [140] IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 07-04 10:58:57 [140] IPCP: SendConfigNak(Req-Sent) 07-04 10:58:57 [140] IPADDR[6] 194.166.29.160 07-04 10:58:58 [140] IPCP: Received Configure Request (2) state = Req-Sent (6) 07-04 10:58:58 [140] COMPPROTO[6] 002d0f01 07-04 10:58:58 [140] IPADDR[6] 194.166.29.160 07-04 10:58:58 [140] IPCP: SendConfigAck(Req-Sent) 07-04 10:58:58 [140] COMPPROTO[6] 002d0f01 07-04 10:58:58 [140] IPADDR[6] 194.166.29.160 07-04 10:58:58 [140] IPCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Sent 07-04 10:58:58 [140] IPCP: SendConfigReq 07-04 10:58:58 [140] IPADDR [6] 194.166.29.162 07-04 10:58:58 [140] COMPPROTO [6] 002d0f00 07-04 10:58:59 [140] IPCP: Received Configure Ack (2) state = Ack-Sent (8) 07-04 10:58:59 [140] IPCP: state change Ack-Sent --> Opend 07-04 10:58:59 [140] IPCP: LayerUp. 07-04 10:58:59 [140] myaddr = 194.166.29.162 hisaddr = 194.166.29.160 07-04 10:58:59 [140] found interface ep0 for proxy arp 07-04 10:58:59 [140] OsLinkup: 194.166.29.160 07-04 11:04:44 [140] Disconnected! 07-04 11:04:44 [140] Connect time: 351 secs 07-04 11:04:44 [140] Phase: Dead 07-04 11:04:44 [140] OsLinkdown: 194.166.29.160 07-04 11:04:45 [140] PPP Terminated. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The configuration of ppp is as follow. --------------------------- /etc/ppp/ppp.conf ------------------------ # # Default setup. Executed always when PPP is invoked. # default: set device /dev/cuaa0 set speed 38400 disable lqr deny lqr set login "" set timeout 0 deny pap deny chap set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" ATE1Q0 OK-AT-OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" # ppp: disable pap disable chap enable proxy set authname ppp-server set ifaddr 194.166.29.162 194.166.29.160/31 set debug phase chat lcp tcpip ccp route ipcp --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------- /etc/ppp/ppp.linkup ---------------------- # *** *** this seems ignored *** add 0 0 194.166.29.1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Any hints ? Many thanks in advance Giorgio Cico From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 04:07:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA20387 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 04:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arneis.intelnet.vol.it (arneis.intelnet.vol.it [194.166.29.62]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA20378 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 04:07:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gio@localhost) by arneis.intelnet.vol.it (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA14778; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 13:07:03 +0200 Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 13:07:02 +0200 (MET DST) From: Giorgio Cico To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: HELP requested on iij-ppp Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk HELP !!! I need to configure a FBSD box as an access server, connecting two modem to the two Com ports. I followed the manual in the section 'Receiving incoming ppp connections' but it doesn't works well. The address of the box is 194.166.29.199 (255.255.255.0) I want the ppp connection address be 194.166.29.160/161 I want all packet sent to my default router (194.166.29.1) I inserted the address 194.166.29.162 as the address of the box during the connection: I'm not sure if it is correct/necessary, but, otherwise, the box succesfully negotiates an address of 0.0.0.0 . this is the result of the session on the client (Trumpet on Windows 3.11) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Trumpet Winsock Version 2.0 Revision B Copyright (c) 1993,1994 by Peter R. Tattam All Rights Reserved. THIS IS AN UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE VERSION FOR EVALUATION ONLY. PPP[C021] state = starting PPP[C023] state = starting PPP[8021] state = starting PPP ENABLED Internal SLIP driver COM1 Baud rate = 38400 Hardware handshaking Compression enabled IP buffers = 32 My IP = 0.0.0.0 netmask = 0.0.0.0 gateway = 0.0.0.0 Manually dialing. AFTER LOGGING IN, TYPE THE KEY TO RETURN TO NORMAL SLIP PROCESSING. PPP DISABLED atdt803480667 CONNECT 26400/ARQ FreeBSD (test.intelnet.vol.it) (ttyd1) login: ppp Password: User Process PPP. Written by Toshiharu OHNO. Log level is 09 Using interface: tun0 Packet mode enabled. ~}#@!}!}!} }8}(}"}'}"}"}&} } } } }!}$}%\}%}&!}8Xo~PPP ENABLED PPP[C021] SND CONFREQ ID=01 LEN=24 MRU(05DC) ACCM(00000000) MAGIC(000144D4) PFC ACFC PPP[C021] state = reqsent PPP frame check error, 29 PPP[C021] RCV CONFREQ ID=02 LEN=24 ACFC PFC ACCM(00000000) MRU(05DC) MAGIC(82A118D8) PPP[C021] SND CONFACK ID=02 LEN=24 ACFC PFC ACCM(00000000) MRU(05DC) MAGIC(82A118D8) PPP[C021] state = acksent PPP frame check error, 18 PPP[C021] SND PROTREJ ID=01 LEN=12 data 80 FD 01 01 00 06 01 02 PPP[C021] SND CONFREQ ID=02 LEN=24 MRU(05DC) ACCM(00000000) MAGIC(0001510F) PFC ACFC PPP[C021] RCV ECHOREQ ID=03 LEN=16 data 82 A1 18 D8 59 4E 4F 54 00 00 00 00 PPP[C021] RCV CONFREQ ID=04 LEN=24 ACFC PFC ACCM(00000000) MRU(05DC) MAGIC(82A118D8) PPP[C021] SND CONFACK ID=04 LEN=24 ACFC PFC ACCM(00000000) MRU(05DC) MAGIC(82A118D8) PPP[C021] RCV CONFACK ID=02 LEN=24 MRU(05DC) ACCM(00000000) MAGIC(0001510F) PFC ACFC PPP[C021] state = opened PPP[8021] SND CONFREQ ID=01 LEN=16 IPCP(002D0F01) IPADDR(00000000) PPP[8021] state = reqsent PPP[8021] RCV CONFNAK ID=01 LEN=10 IPADDR(C2A61DA0) My IP address = 194.166.29.160 PPP[8021] SND CONFREQ ID=02 LEN=16 IPCP(002D0F01) IPADDR(C2A61DA0) PPP[8021] RCV CONFACK ID=02 LEN=16 IPCP(002D0F01) IPADDR(C2A61DA0) PPP[8021] state = ackrcvd PPP[8021] RCV CONFREQ ID=02 LEN=16 IPADDR(C2A61DA2) IPCP(002D0F00) PPP[8021] SND CONFACK ID=02 LEN=16 IPADDR(C2A61DA2) IPCP(002D0F00) PPP[8021] state = opened state = syn_sent *** *** here I am tring a telnet to 194.166.29.62 *** 0 IP 194.166.29.160 ->194.166.29.62 len 44 prot 6 126.3 1024->23 seq 00000000 SYN wind 4096 opt 020405B4 0 IP 194.166.29.160 ->194.166.29.62 len 44 prot 6 131.4 1024->23 seq 00000000 SYN wind 4096 opt 020405B4 0 IP 194.166.29.160 ->194.166.29.62 len 44 prot 6 141.4 1024->23 seq 00000000 SYN wind 4096 opt 020405B4 state = closed --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------- /var/log/ppp.log ------------------------ 07-04 10:58:52 [140] Using interface: tun0 07-04 10:58:52 [140] Listening at 3000. 07-04 10:58:52 [140] PPP Started. 07-04 10:58:52 [140] Packet mode enabled 07-04 10:58:52 [140] LCP: state change Initial --> Closed 07-04 10:58:52 [140] LCP: SendConfigReq 07-04 10:58:52 [140] ACFCOMP 07-04 10:58:52 [140] PROTOCOMP 07-04 10:58:52 [140] ACCMAP [6] 00000000 07-04 10:58:52 [140] MRU [4] 1500 07-04 10:58:52 [140] MAGICNUM [6] 82a118d8 07-04 10:58:52 [140] LCP: state change Closed --> Req-Sent 07-04 10:58:53 [140] *Connected! 07-04 10:58:53 [140] LCP: Received Configure Request (1) state = Req-Sent (6) 07-04 10:58:53 [140] MRU 1500 07-04 10:58:53 [140] ACCMAP 00000000 07-04 10:58:53 [140] MAGICNUM 000144d4 07-04 10:58:53 [140] PROTOCOMP 07-04 10:58:53 [140] ACFCOMP 07-04 10:58:53 [140] LCP: SendConfigAck(Req-Sent) 07-04 10:58:53 [140] MRU 1500 07-04 10:58:53 [140] ACCMAP 00000000 07-04 10:58:53 [140] MAGICNUM 000144d4 07-04 10:58:53 [140] PROTOCOMP 07-04 10:58:53 [140] ACFCOMP 07-04 10:58:53 [140] LCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Sent 07-04 10:58:55 [140] LCP: SendConfigReq 07-04 10:58:55 [140] ACFCOMP 07-04 10:58:55 [140] PROTOCOMP 07-04 10:58:55 [140] ACCMAP [6] 00000000 07-04 10:58:55 [140] MRU [4] 1500 07-04 10:58:55 [140] MAGICNUM [6] 82a118d8 07-04 10:58:55 [140] LCP: Received Configure Ack (2) state = Ack-Sent (8) 07-04 10:58:55 [140] LCP: state change Ack-Sent --> Opend 07-04 10:58:55 [140] LCP: LayerUp 07-04 10:58:55 [140] Phase: Authenticate 07-04 10:58:55 [140] his = 0, mine = 0 07-04 10:58:55 [140] Phase: Network 07-04 10:58:55 [140] IPCP: state change Initial --> Closed 07-04 10:58:55 [140] IPCP Up event!! 07-04 10:58:55 [140] IPCP: SendConfigReq 07-04 10:58:55 [140] IPADDR [6] 194.166.29.162 07-04 10:58:55 [140] COMPPROTO [6] 002d0f00 07-04 10:58:55 [140] IPCP: state change Closed --> Req-Sent 07-04 10:58:55 [140] CCP: state change Initial --> Closed 07-04 10:58:55 [140] CCP Up event!! 07-04 10:58:55 [140] CCP: SendConfigReq 07-04 10:58:55 [140] CCP: state change Closed --> Req-Sent 07-04 10:58:56 [140] LCP: Received Protocol Reject (1) state = Opend (9) 07-04 10:58:56 [140] -- Protocol (80fd) was rejected. 07-04 10:58:56 [140] CCP: LayerFinish. 07-04 10:58:56 [140] CCP: state change Req-Sent --> Stopped 07-04 10:58:56 [140] LCP: Received Configure Request (2) state = Opend (9) 07-04 10:58:56 [140] MRU 1500 07-04 10:58:56 [140] ACCMAP 00000000 07-04 10:58:56 [140] MAGICNUM 0001510f 07-04 10:58:56 [140] PROTOCOMP 07-04 10:58:56 [140] ACFCOMP 07-04 10:58:56 [140] LCP: LayerDown 07-04 10:58:56 [140] Phase: Terminate 07-04 10:58:56 [140] LCP: SendConfigReq 07-04 10:58:56 [140] ACFCOMP 07-04 10:58:56 [140] PROTOCOMP 07-04 10:58:56 [140] ACCMAP [6] 00000000 07-04 10:58:56 [140] MRU [4] 1500 07-04 10:58:56 [140] MAGICNUM [6] 82a118d8 07-04 10:58:56 [140] LCP: SendConfigAck(Opend) 07-04 10:58:56 [140] MRU 1500 07-04 10:58:56 [140] ACCMAP 00000000 07-04 10:58:56 [140] MAGICNUM 0001510f 07-04 10:58:56 [140] PROTOCOMP 07-04 10:58:56 [140] ACFCOMP 07-04 10:58:56 [140] LCP: state change Opend --> Ack-Sent 07-04 10:58:57 [140] LCP: Received Configure Ack (4) state = Ack-Sent (8) 07-04 10:58:57 [140] LCP: state change Ack-Sent --> Opend 07-04 10:58:57 [140] LCP: LayerUp 07-04 10:58:57 [140] Phase: Authenticate 07-04 10:58:57 [140] his = 0, mine = 0 07-04 10:58:57 [140] Phase: Network 07-04 10:58:57 [140] IPCP: Oops, Up at Req-Sent 07-04 10:58:57 [140] IPCP Up event!! 07-04 10:58:57 [140] CCP: Oops, Up at Stopped 07-04 10:58:57 [140] CCP Up event!! 07-04 10:58:57 [140] IPCP: Received Configure Request (1) state = Req-Sent (6) 07-04 10:58:57 [140] COMPPROTO[6] 002d0f01 07-04 10:58:57 [140] IPADDR[6] 0.0.0.0 07-04 10:58:57 [140] IPCP: SendConfigNak(Req-Sent) 07-04 10:58:57 [140] IPADDR[6] 194.166.29.160 07-04 10:58:58 [140] IPCP: Received Configure Request (2) state = Req-Sent (6) 07-04 10:58:58 [140] COMPPROTO[6] 002d0f01 07-04 10:58:58 [140] IPADDR[6] 194.166.29.160 07-04 10:58:58 [140] IPCP: SendConfigAck(Req-Sent) 07-04 10:58:58 [140] COMPPROTO[6] 002d0f01 07-04 10:58:58 [140] IPADDR[6] 194.166.29.160 07-04 10:58:58 [140] IPCP: state change Req-Sent --> Ack-Sent 07-04 10:58:58 [140] IPCP: SendConfigReq 07-04 10:58:58 [140] IPADDR [6] 194.166.29.162 07-04 10:58:58 [140] COMPPROTO [6] 002d0f00 07-04 10:58:59 [140] IPCP: Received Configure Ack (2) state = Ack-Sent (8) 07-04 10:58:59 [140] IPCP: state change Ack-Sent --> Opend 07-04 10:58:59 [140] IPCP: LayerUp. 07-04 10:58:59 [140] myaddr = 194.166.29.162 hisaddr = 194.166.29.160 07-04 10:58:59 [140] found interface ep0 for proxy arp 07-04 10:58:59 [140] OsLinkup: 194.166.29.160 07-04 11:04:44 [140] Disconnected! 07-04 11:04:44 [140] Connect time: 351 secs 07-04 11:04:44 [140] Phase: Dead 07-04 11:04:44 [140] OsLinkdown: 194.166.29.160 07-04 11:04:45 [140] PPP Terminated. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The configuration of ppp is as follow. --------------------------- /etc/ppp/ppp.conf ------------------------ # # Default setup. Executed always when PPP is invoked. # default: set device /dev/cuaa0 set speed 38400 disable lqr deny lqr set login "" set timeout 0 deny pap deny chap set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" ATE1Q0 OK-AT-OK \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" # ppp: disable pap disable chap enable proxy set authname ppp-server set ifaddr 194.166.29.162 194.166.29.160/31 set debug phase chat lcp tcpip ccp route ipcp --------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------- /etc/ppp/ppp.linkup ---------------------- # *** *** this seems ignored *** add 0 0 194.166.29.1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Any hints ? Many thanks in advance Giorgio Cico From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 05:04:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA22879 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 05:04:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.iafrica.com (root@chain.iafrica.com [196.31.1.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA22874 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 05:04:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (khetan@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chain.iafrica.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA03038; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:02:24 +0200 (SAT) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:02:23 +0200 (SAT) From: Khetan Gajjar To: Werner Griessl cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: setting up wu-ftpd In-Reply-To: <199607041203.MAA00938@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Werner Griessl wrote: >Found the solution now ! It didn't for me!. I made the change to ftpaccess, and get this message 0:/ ncftp>cd /pub/netscape/gold/ You have new mail. 0:/pub/netscape/gold (Mail) ncftp>ls -al total 16 drwxr-xr-x 4 root operator 512 Jul 3 23:45 ./ drwxr-xr-x 5 root operator 512 Jul 3 23:45 ../ drwxr-xr-x 2 root operator 512 Jul 3 23:39 2/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root operator 512 Jul 3 23:38 3/ 0:/pub/netscape/gold ncftp>get 2.tar.gz Local error: conversion program not found. Cannot TAR+GZIP file. 0:/pub/netscape/gold ncftp>quit You have mail in /var/mail/khetan [chain] ~$ My ftpaccess file contains compress yes all local remote tar yes all local remote zip yes all local remote and my ftpconversions file is :.Z : : :/usr/ftp/bin/gzip -d -c %s:T_REG|T_ASCII:O_UNCOMPRESS:UNCOMPRESS : : :.Z:/usr/ftp/bin/compress -c %s:T_REG:O_COMPRESS:COMPRESS :.gz: : :/usr/ftp/bin/gzip -cd %s:T_REG|T_ASCII:O_UNCOMPRESS:GUNZIP : : :.gz:/usr/ftp/bin/gzip -9 -c %s:T_REG:O_COMPRESS:GZIP : : :.zip:/usr/ftp/bin/zip -9 -r %s:T_REG:O_COMPRESS:ZIP : : :.tar:/usr/ftp/bin/tar -c -f - %s:T_REG|T_DIR:O_TAR:TAR : : :.tar.Z:/usr/ftp/bin/tar -c -Z -f - %s:T_REG|T_DIR:O_COMPRESS|O_TAR:TAR+COMPRESS : : :.tar.gz:/usr/ftp/bin/tar -c -z -f - %s:T_REG|T_DIR:O_COMPRESS|O_TAR:TAR+GZIP Regards, Khetan Gajjar. --- http://www.chain.iafrica.com/~khetan/ UUNet-Internet Africa Operations - 0800-030-002 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 05:48:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA24707 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 05:48:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iworks.InterWorks.org (deischen@iworks.interworks.org [128.255.18.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA24702 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 05:48:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by iworks.InterWorks.org (1.37.109.8/16.2) id AA14136; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 07:45:31 -0500 Message-Id: <9607041245.AA14136@iworks.InterWorks.org> Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 07:45:31 -0500 From: "Daniel M. Eischen" To: cstrati@equalis.it, questions@freebsd.com Subject: Re: Help for FreeBSD review Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have FreeBSD 2.0.5 on Walnut Creek's CD-ROM. I install it onto my second > hard drive with the FreeBSD boot manager; the installation goes well and the > PC boots right with the boot manager. But when I ask to boot with FreeBSD, > after the correct recognition of all the devices, I get the following > messages: "changing root device to wd1a" and "panic: cannot mount root". FreeBSD 2.0.5? If you're going to review FreeBSD, how about using a version more recent? FreeBSD 2.1 has been out for months now and 2.1.5 is due any day now. > = CD ROM = > Plextor 6X SCSI controlled by Adaptec AHA2940 If you experience any problems with the Adaptec 2940, upgrade to 2.1-stable or wait for the 2.1.5 release. THere were a lot of bug fixes and improvements in the driver for the 2940 controller. Dan Eischen deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 06:08:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA25148 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 06:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sarah.yourchoice.nl (sarah.yourchoice.nl [194.109.1.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA25143 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 06:08:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from alexlh@localhost) by sarah.yourchoice.nl (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA28515; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 15:06:45 +0200 Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 15:06:45 +0200 (MET DST) From: Alex Le Heux X-Sender: alexlh@sarah To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Has ipfw changed since 2.1.0-REL? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm setting up a firewall using FreeBSD 2.1.0-REL. Now I think ipfw is a really cool feature, although it doesn't quite do what I want it to. So my question is: Has any work been done on it since 2.1.0-REL? If it's been improved since then, I won't waste my time messing around with the code myself. Cheers, Alex /// I dabble in techno-house and sometimes, /// I do that badass hip-hop thang... /// But the F U N K gets me every time! From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 06:11:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA25270 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 06:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from perseus.ultra.net (perseus.ultra.net [199.232.56.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA25265; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 06:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kbranco (d38.nbd.ma.ultra.net [146.115.57.38]) by perseus.ultra.net (8.7.4/dae0.6) with SMTP id JAA25358; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 09:10:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960704131341.006ffed0@ma.ultranet.com> X-Sender: kbranco@ma.ultranet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 09:13:41 -0400 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.com From: Kenny Subject: XFree86 and Cirrus CL-GD5434 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.com Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk While I am currently looking over all the docs I can find, I was hoping to find someone who has made this combo work. The card has 1024K of memory. The maximum resolution on the monitor is 1024 X 768. I am sure I put all the right numbers into the xf86config setup. The display looks "out of resolution" with thin streaks of black lines. I have FreeBSD 2.1 from the CD. Thanks for the input!! /Kenny/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 06:19:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA25612 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 06:19:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cr-df.rnp.br (jazz.cr-df.rnp.br [200.6.48.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA25607 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 06:19:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp11.cr-df.rnp.br by cr-df.rnp.br (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15492; Thu, 4 Jul 96 10:15:32 EST Message-Id: <31DBFCFE.873@linf.unb.br> Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 10:18:54 -0700 From: Alex Antao Reply-To: e9203125@linf.unb.br X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5aGold (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Novell & FreeBSD References: <199607041255.JAA23325@ortro.iqm.unicamp.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk (I don´t subscribe to this list, PLEASE, send Cc to me !) Hi, How do I do to mount a dir. on my FreeBSD Box on Netware 4.10 Clients ? Thanks, -- _________________________________ _________________________ / Alex Carlos Braga Antão \ /_ __ \ | UnB - Universidade de Brasilia | // ...on IRC | | | // ____ | | e-mail : e9203125@linf.unb.br | // / _/________ | | http://www.linf.unb.br/~e9203125 | /____ /_/ / /) (_) / | \_________________________________/ \_______It's me !_________/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 07:20:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA28577 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 07:20:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po2.glue.umd.edu (po2.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA28541; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 07:20:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from skipper.eng.umd.edu (skipper.eng.umd.edu [129.2.103.24]) by po2.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA02141; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 10:20:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by skipper.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA12873; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 10:20:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 10:20:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@skipper.eng.umd.edu To: Haytham Algyndy cc: questions@FreeBSD.org, ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: magic port compilation problems In-Reply-To: <199607040618.QAA13544@s4.elec.uq.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Haytham Algyndy wrote: > Hi > > I was trying to install magic, and I am not able to. > when making install in the ports/cad/magic dir, I get errors saying that > the work/magic-6.4.4 couldn't be cd to. when I make it, there seems a problem in applying > the patchs. > > My system is a 486DX2 running stable. > I just built it with no problems, Did you do a make first (which does the compilation)? This creates the /usr/ports/cad/magic/work/magic-6.4.4 directory, so that make install can work from there. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 07:22:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA28672 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 07:22:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.225.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA28525 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 07:20:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA21086; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 16:16:18 +0200 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA11810; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 16:28:35 +0200 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-Id: <199607041428.QAA11810@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: setting up wu-ftpd To: khetan@iafrica.com (Khetan Gajjar) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 16:28:34 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: croot@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from Khetan Gajjar at "Jul 4, 96 02:02:23 pm" Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL16 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Werner Griessl wrote: > > >Found the solution now ! > > It didn't for me!. I made the change to ftpaccess, and get this message > > 0:/ > ncftp>cd /pub/netscape/gold/ > You have new mail. > 0:/pub/netscape/gold > (Mail) ncftp>ls -al > total 16 > drwxr-xr-x 4 root operator 512 Jul 3 23:45 ./ > drwxr-xr-x 5 root operator 512 Jul 3 23:45 ../ > drwxr-xr-x 2 root operator 512 Jul 3 23:39 2/ > drwxr-xr-x 2 root operator 512 Jul 3 23:38 3/ > 0:/pub/netscape/gold > ncftp>get 2.tar.gz > Local error: conversion program not found. Cannot TAR+GZIP file. > 0:/pub/netscape/gold > ncftp>quit > You have mail in /var/mail/khetan > [chain] ~$ > > My ftpaccess file contains > > compress yes all local remote > tar yes all local remote > zip yes all local remote > > and my ftpconversions file is > > :.Z : : :/usr/ftp/bin/gzip -d -c %s:T_REG|T_ASCII:O_UNCOMPRESS:UNCOMPRESS > : : :.Z:/usr/ftp/bin/compress -c %s:T_REG:O_COMPRESS:COMPRESS > :.gz: : :/usr/ftp/bin/gzip -cd %s:T_REG|T_ASCII:O_UNCOMPRESS:GUNZIP > : : :.gz:/usr/ftp/bin/gzip -9 -c %s:T_REG:O_COMPRESS:GZIP > : : :.zip:/usr/ftp/bin/zip -9 -r %s:T_REG:O_COMPRESS:ZIP > : : :.tar:/usr/ftp/bin/tar -c -f - %s:T_REG|T_DIR:O_TAR:TAR > : : :.tar.Z:/usr/ftp/bin/tar -c -Z -f - %s:T_REG|T_DIR:O_COMPRESS|O_TAR:TAR+COMPRESS > : : :.tar.gz:/usr/ftp/bin/tar -c -z -f - %s:T_REG|T_DIR:O_COMPRESS|O_TAR:TAR+GZIP I believe that's wrong (unless you have a ~ftp/usr/ftp/bin/gzip). The paths are relative to the chroot'ed ftp home dir. You need a ~ftp/bin/{gzip,tar,compress}. :.Z: : :/bin/gzip -d -c %s:T_REG|T_ASCII:O_UNCOMPRESS:UNCOMPRESS : : :.Z:/bin/compress -c %s:T_REG:O_COMPRESS:COMPRESS :.gz: : :/bin/gzip -cd %s:T_REG|T_ASCII:O_UNCOMPRESS:GUNZIP : : :.gz:/bin/gzip -9 -c %s:T_REG:O_COMPRESS:GZIP : : :.tar:/bin/tar -c -f - %s:T_REG|T_DIR:O_TAR:TAR : : :.tar.Z:/bin/tar -c -Z -f - %s:T_REG|T_DIR:O_COMPRESS|O_TAR:TAR+COMPRESS : : :.tar.gz:/bin/tar -c -z -f - %s:T_REG|T_DIR:O_COMPRESS|O_TAR:TAR+GZIP > > > Regards, > Khetan Gajjar. > > --- > http://www.chain.iafrica.com/~khetan/ > UUNet-Internet Africa > Operations - 0800-030-002 > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 07:26:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA28825 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 07:26:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA28816 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 07:26:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-4.ime.net [206.231.148.133]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA11045 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 10:25:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31DBD4AC.3B66@ime.net> Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 10:26:52 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Arrgg.. make world crashed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Help! make world crashed after ~15 hours. 486DX-33 8meg, 32meg swap. The machine just re-booted, Failed to reconize the drive on boot Powered down, Waited 5 minutes, Re-Powered, fsck failed, manually ran fsck, Tons of errors (Filetypes 6553x)?, Seems to have fixed things ok. Is make smart enough to start where it left off?? Also, I read someplace that it should be done in single user mode, Is this fact? No users, just cron stuff. Guess I'm going to get another lesson on Installing. Nope, No backup! :) Nothing to backup that can't be re-installed. I think that brings the count to 22 v2.1r installs on the same machine! Got sysinstall down pat! I was hoping to wait for 2.1.5 before re-installing! My pref, Start Clean.. Gets rid of my Lack of Knowledge BooBoo's. -Enjoy (I'm not) Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 07:41:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA00201 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 07:41:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de [132.180.20.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA29718 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 07:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (8.7.5/8.6.12) id QAA03461; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 16:34:50 GMT From: Werner Griessl Message-Id: <199607041634.QAA03461@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de> Subject: Re: setting up wu-ftpd To: kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 16:34:50 +0000 () Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607041428.QAA11810@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> from "Christoph P. Kukulies" at "Jul 4, 96 04:28:34 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Werner Griessl wrote: > > > > >Found the solution now ! > > > > It didn't for me!. I made the change to ftpaccess, and get this message > > > > 0:/ > > ncftp>cd /pub/netscape/gold/ > > You have new mail. > > 0:/pub/netscape/gold > > (Mail) ncftp>ls -al > > total 16 > > drwxr-xr-x 4 root operator 512 Jul 3 23:45 ./ > > drwxr-xr-x 5 root operator 512 Jul 3 23:45 ../ > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root operator 512 Jul 3 23:39 2/ > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root operator 512 Jul 3 23:38 3/ > > 0:/pub/netscape/gold > > ncftp>get 2.tar.gz > > Local error: conversion program not found. Cannot TAR+GZIP file. > > 0:/pub/netscape/gold > > ncftp>quit > > You have mail in /var/mail/khetan > > [chain] ~$ > > > > My ftpaccess file contains > > > > compress yes all local remote > > tar yes all local remote > > zip yes all local remote > > > > and my ftpconversions file is > > > > :.Z : : :/usr/ftp/bin/gzip -d -c %s:T_REG|T_ASCII:O_UNCOMPRESS:UNCOMPRESS > > : : :.Z:/usr/ftp/bin/compress -c %s:T_REG:O_COMPRESS:COMPRESS > > :.gz: : :/usr/ftp/bin/gzip -cd %s:T_REG|T_ASCII:O_UNCOMPRESS:GUNZIP > > : : :.gz:/usr/ftp/bin/gzip -9 -c %s:T_REG:O_COMPRESS:GZIP > > : : :.zip:/usr/ftp/bin/zip -9 -r %s:T_REG:O_COMPRESS:ZIP > > : : :.tar:/usr/ftp/bin/tar -c -f - %s:T_REG|T_DIR:O_TAR:TAR > > : : :.tar.Z:/usr/ftp/bin/tar -c -Z -f - %s:T_REG|T_DIR:O_COMPRESS|O_TAR:TAR+COMPRESS > > : : :.tar.gz:/usr/ftp/bin/tar -c -z -f - %s:T_REG|T_DIR:O_COMPRESS|O_TAR:TAR+GZIP > I believe that's wrong (unless you have a ~ftp/usr/ftp/bin/gzip). The paths > are relative to the chroot'ed ftp home dir. You need a > ~ftp/bin/{gzip,tar,compress}. > > :.Z: : :/bin/gzip -d -c %s:T_REG|T_ASCII:O_UNCOMPRESS:UNCOMPRESS > : : :.Z:/bin/compress -c %s:T_REG:O_COMPRESS:COMPRESS > :.gz: : :/bin/gzip -cd %s:T_REG|T_ASCII:O_UNCOMPRESS:GUNZIP > : : :.gz:/bin/gzip -9 -c %s:T_REG:O_COMPRESS:GZIP > : : :.tar:/bin/tar -c -f - %s:T_REG|T_DIR:O_TAR:TAR > : : :.tar.Z:/bin/tar -c -Z -f - %s:T_REG|T_DIR:O_COMPRESS|O_TAR:TAR+COMPRESS > : : :.tar.gz:/bin/tar -c -z -f - %s:T_REG|T_DIR:O_COMPRESS|O_TAR:TAR+GZIP > > > > > > > > Regards, > > Khetan Gajjar. > > > > --- > > http://www.chain.iafrica.com/~khetan/ > > UUNet-Internet Africa > > Operations - 0800-030-002 > > > > > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de > I use /usr/bin/ in ftpconversions and a link from ftp's HOME/usr/bin -> HOME/bin. This will work for both ftp and "normal" users ! I use also statically linked binaries in ftp's HOME to avoid problems with the shared libraries path. Works for me except .Z (compress). Don't no why . Werner From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 08:17:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA01586 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 08:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com ([206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA01580 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 08:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA00444; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 09:16:50 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 09:16:50 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199607041516.JAA00444@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams To: Alex Le Heux Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Has ipfw changed since 2.1.0-REL? In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > If it's been improved since then, I won't waste my time messing around > with the code myself. It's been changed *ALOT* since 2.1R, so much that none of your old IPFW rules will even be relevant anymore, although they can be used for reference. Nate From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 09:34:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA04906 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 09:34:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from warp10.warp10.com ([207.6.190.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA04898 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 09:34:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from matt.warp10.com by warp10.warp10.com via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) for id MAA09035; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 12:31:28 -0400 Received: by matt.warp10.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BB69A4.EECBB060@matt.warp10.com>; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 12:32:58 -0400 Message-ID: <01BB69A4.EECBB060@matt.warp10.com> From: warp10 To: "'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG'" Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 12:32:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 09:53:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA05943 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 09:53:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (mail.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA05931 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 09:53:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id SAA19571; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 18:53:25 +0200 Received: by CoDe.CoDe.hu (SAA00331); Thu, 4 Jul 1996 18:47:00 GMT From: Gabor Zahemszky Message-Id: <199607041847.SAA00331@CoDe.CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: HELP requested on iij-ppp To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 18:47:00 +0000 (GMT) Cc: gio@intelnet.vol.it In-Reply-To: from "Giorgio Cico" at Jul 4, 96 12:36:19 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > HELP !!! > > I need to configure a FBSD box as an access server, connecting two modem > to the two Com ports. > I followed the manual in the section 'Receiving incoming ppp connections' > but it doesn't works well. If I understand well, you configured your winsock to use CSLIP (compressed slip) not, ppp. (Or both of them, and they are kick each other.) Look at it: > Trumpet Winsock Version 2.0 Revision B > Copyright (c) 1993,1994 by Peter R. Tattam > All Rights Reserved. > THIS IS AN UNREGISTERED SHAREWARE VERSION FOR EVALUATION ONLY. > PPP[C021] state = starting > PPP[C023] state = starting > PPP[8021] state = starting > PPP ENABLED > Internal SLIP driver COM1 Baud rate = 38400 Hardware handshaking Compression enabled ------------^ ----------------------------------------------------------------------^ > IP buffers = 32 > My IP = 0.0.0.0 netmask = 0.0.0.0 gateway = 0.0.0.0 > Manually dialing. > AFTER LOGGING IN, TYPE THE KEY TO RETURN TO NORMAL SLIP PROCESSING. > PPP DISABLED > atdt803480667 > CONNECT 26400/ARQ I don't know ppp/slip very well, so maybe it's not the problem. -- Gabor Zahemszky -:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:-:- Earth is the cradle of human sense, but you can't stay in the cradle forever. Tsiolkovsky From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 11:01:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA08867 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 11:01:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Rigel.orionsys.com (root@rigel.orionsys.com [205.148.224.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA08862 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 11:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dbabler@localhost) by Rigel.orionsys.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id LAA04473; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 11:01:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 11:01:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Babler To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: Bala Periasamy , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Majordomo problem (help) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 Jul 1996, Doug White wrote: > On Wed, 3 Jul 1996, Bala Periasamy wrote: > > > syslog error: > > swap_pager: out of space > > Process 192 killed by vm_fault -- out of swap > > pid 196: perl: uid 54: exited on signal 11 > > > > > > mail returned with the following error > > > > Message delivered to mailing list majordomo > > Out of memory! > > Killed > > 554 "|/usr/home/majordom/wrapper majordomo"... unknown mailer error > > 137 > > > > Any help on this will be useful > > Uh, you ran out of swap? > > check swapinfo. Maybe reboot if you haven't lately. > I spent most of yesterday afternoon trying to get Majordomo to work and have exactly the same error. The error 137 (according to the Majordomo docs) is probably being returned from the mailer (sendmail in my case) but the man page for sendmail points to the syscodes header file which does not contain 137. If you run 'top' while majordomo runs, you'll see that it starts out with a few hundred k of swap, then every few seconds it grabs more and more and more and eventually runs out, faults and is killed. I assume it's a permissions error, but all I have to go on is the error code (136 or 137). If you find out anything more, please let me know. -Dave From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 11:27:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA09859 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 11:27:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyberport.com (root@puma.cyberport.com [204.134.75.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA09854 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 11:27:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hippo.cyberport.com (kevin@hippo.cyberport.com [204.134.75.2]) by cyberport.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA18508; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 12:27:12 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 12:27:11 -0600 (MDT) From: Kevin Rosenberg To: David Greenman cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to set INN datasize > 64MB In-Reply-To: <199607040703.AAA01725@root.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >I am using 2.1-STABLE on a 128MB P90 system. INN dies when it tries to > >allocate more memory than 64MB. Using ulimit and limit, I have not been > >able to raise the datasize > 64MB, and I don't see a kernel configuration > >option to set the maximum process datasize like BSD/OS v2.1. > > > >I'd sure appreciate it if someone could let me know how to give INN more > >memory!! > > Take a look at /sys/i386/include/vmparam.h. You want to change MAXDSIZ and > possibly DFLDSIZ and MAXSSIZ. Don't touch the others. :-) Thanks, David -- I appreciate it!! -------------------------------------------------------------------- Kevin Rosenberg | CyberPort Station Chief System Administrator | The Finest Internet Service Possible! kevin@cyberport.com | http://www.cyberport.com Finger kevin@cyberport.com for PGP Public Key -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 11:58:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA11639 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 11:58:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA11628 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 11:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id ab05581; 4 Jul 96 19:58 +0100 Received: from icrt.demon.co.uk ([158.152.246.228]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa09724; 4 Jul 96 19:56 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 13:25:07 +0100 To: questions@freebsd.org From: "Lars G. Erlandsen" Subject: Help: FreeBSD 2.1 'mount' fails on 2.0 SCSI partition MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 1.11 <0$M+ltNrbQ$Y$ryVKqcUZpyKB5> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've grown up on Sun Workstations, and developed a strong liking for BSD Unix. During my ten years of developing software for various companies, it was the one dependable and solid workhorse that always got the job done. FreeBSD was the ultimate dream: BSD Unix at home. It has run for over 2 years (first version 1.5, and over the last 2 years, version 2.0), and there are very few things it can't do. It's a superb environment, and one I've grown to like and respect. The system I have successfully run an maintained, is a FreeBSD 2.0 system that has been uncomfortably straddled across one IDE and one SCSI disk on my home computer. It started its life as a 2nd partition on the IDE drive (Messy-Dross and Windows 'Paines' occupying the first), but quickly ran out of space. I used '/stand/sysinstall' to partition up a bigger Conner 1 Gbyte SCSI disk (controlled from an Adaptek 2942 board) later, then 'mkfs' to format the partitions, then tar'ed over the original partitions. However, as I've learned later, tar is no good on special files, so I never managed to boot from the SCSI disk. In the end, I booted from the IDE disk, but had /usr mounted on the SCSI disk (and importantly, the /usr/home partition for all my software). Recently I acquired a bigger IDE disk, and decided it was time to do the job properly, and for starters use the better partition naming to have swap, root, usr and home partitions on separate slices. Also, my FreeBSD was more than 2 years old, and in need of a facelift (not the least because of the FreeBSD version 2.1 support for SoundBlaster Panasonic CD-ROM drives). I've also since installed both Linux, OS/2 and Boot Manager for curiosity reasons, but that is not part of the story. All has gone well, except that FDISK decided to pick its own default and try and grab the whole IDE drive, FreeBSD and all, for partitioning, on my old IDE drive. Of course this was discovered only during DOS FORMAT later. The FreeBSD partitionwas lost. I wasn't unduly worried, as I had disconnected the SCSI disk during this, knowing the generally mean behaviour of FDISK. Hence the /usr portion (and more importantly /usr/home) should be OK. FreeBSD 2.1 was installed from CD-ROM without problems on the new IDE drive. However, shock horror, it gets into fits when I'm manually trying to mount the SCSI disk, complaining about overlapping partitions, in particular '/dev/sd1s1d' (yes, I've got two SCSI disks as well, now!). Ironically, it then mounts the root partition, which is -- a) the partition that is not in a fit state, anyway after just a tar, and b) not the one I need. The usr partition is not accessible. But 'fsck' finds everything, and reports no problems when I run it on the unmounted SCSI slice, though (I think). At this point, I can see that I have 6 different options for digging out the home partition (the 7th one - scrapping everything - is for now a non-starter), but for all of them there are vital pieces in the jigsaw puzzle missing: 1. Assume that I partitioned it wrongly when I made it. Action: Use 'disklabel -w -r ' to handpatch it. Problem: I haven't got enough knowledge to change the values and get it right, and if I get it wrong, the partitions **REALLY** are busted. 2. Assume the FreeBSD 2.1 team have changed the partitioning software sufficiently to make it non-portable between 2.0 and 2.1 (not unreasonable given the added functionality it now offers on the partitioning). Action: Rely on some migration tool/information/procedures to change the layout sufficiently. Problem: Don't know where to find it. Action II: Mount in a 2.0-ish compatible fashion? Problem: Don't know how. 3. Mount individual partitions within the SCSI slice to rescue the /usr portion. Problem: Don't know how. 4. Ask 'mount' to ignore errors, and try and make the best of it, anyway. With such large partitions (500 Mbyte /usr), there should be several super-blocks to read and make sense of. I only need one lucky break to tar the interesting bits to a DOS partition or something. Problem: Don't know how to inform 'mount' to do that. 5. Try and 'hide' all other BSD partitions (set the type to something unknown), and try and force it to boot from the SCSI disk. Tried it - boot program can't find /kernel, so the partition isn't sane enough to boot. 6. Re-create a BSD 2.0 installation again, and see if it understands the partitioning on the SCSI disk when I mount it manually later. Action: Build from CD-ROM again. Problem: My FreeBSD 2.0 CD-ROM has a damaged boot floppy image. I didn't have the patience to return the CD-ROM to Walnut Creek and wait for a replacement when I got it, so last time I dug out an old 5.25" floppy drive and managed to get it to boot on the 1.2M floppy image. Action II: Get new boot floppy image from Walnut Creek. Problem: Tried that this morning, but version 2.0 now seems so old that they don't hold an image of the CD-ROM any more. So, where do I go from here? Could somebody please give me a few clues about how to use various system utilities to mend the slice? or to ask FreeBSD 2.1 to be forgiving when mounting? Any documentation on the slicing changes between 2.0 and 2.1? Failing all that, does anybody know where I can download a FreBSD 2.0 boot and cpio floppy? Thanks for all help. Regards, Lars G. Erlandsen, Inter-Connect RealTime Ltd. email lerland@icrt.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 12:55:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA16116 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 12:55:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts14-line11.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.177]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA16108 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 12:54:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA00243; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 12:54:50 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 12:54:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: Administrator cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: IP over parrallel port In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Administrator wrote: > On Wed, 3 Jul 1996, Doug White wrote: > > > 3) For media, select 'ftp' (????) and select 'lp0' as the network > > device. You'll have to have the install info set up in an ftp server (or > > other network access) on the server machine. > > So to install by parrallel the distribution must be on the machine your > connecting to? I cant hook the other machine up and tell it to install > from ftp4.au.freebsd.org? Or the machine it's connected to must be set up as a gateway. > It occurs to me that using lpt0 wouldnt be any different to adding say ed1 > and I can do all the same things using ifconfig? If this is the case then > I can probably work it out from the man pages. If this is the case then I > can answer the above question myself :-) That is my assumption. > > Sorry for the assumptions but I think this is fairly accurate. > > Instructions may be in the Handbook or in sysinstall's help system. > > The only help I could find in either of these places was talkin about PPP > over serial lines and then said if you can you might like to install over > parallel because you can get ~50K/s. That was all it said about parrallel. > > If there is help somewhere and I missed it pointeers would be gratefully > received. > I might try and keep a log of how I did it if I get it working and put it > on the web somewhere in case other people try this...perhaps they do but > its not really as hard as it looks. Did you try poking around in the sysinstall help files and the mail archives on www.freebsd.org? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 13:02:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA16994 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 13:02:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts14-line11.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.177]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA16983 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 13:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA00261; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 13:02:07 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 13:02:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: When will Pine 3.94 be ported? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Or is it necessary to port it? Thanks! Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 13:07:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA17653 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 13:07:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (cisco-ts14-line11.uoregon.edu [128.223.150.177]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA17638 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 13:07:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA00278; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 13:07:34 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 13:07:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White Reply-To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu To: tinman@cco.net cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Windows and DOS for Free BSD In-Reply-To: <199607040448.VAA29337@joshua.cco.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 3 Jul 1996 tinman@cco.net wrote: > A few quick questions. Can I run MS DOS, Windows 3.X and Windows '95 > programs in FreeBSD? Also, what are the system requirements? Ouch. Please correct me here, people: DOS: yes with dosemu, not very well tho. Last I heard we are working with BSD/OS to port over their 'rundos' system. Windows 3.X: Yes? with Willows or Wine. Win95: No way as of yet, AFAIK. Don't expect 100% compatibility with any of these. Any reason you'd want to punish yourself by running DOS programs under FreeBSD? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 13:14:56 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA18560 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 13:14:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlantis.nconnect.net (root@atlantis.nconnect.net [206.54.227.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA18552 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 13:14:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from default ([206.54.227.205]) by atlantis.nconnect.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA04221 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 10:10:30 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <31DC25F1.56C2@nconnect.net> Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 15:13:37 -0500 From: Randy DuCharme X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: P24T Overdrive CPU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, Has anyone had any experience using the P24T (83MHz ) Pentium overdrive CPU with FBSD? Will it work? If so, how would one configure a kernel? (i486 or i586) Thanks Randy From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 13:33:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA21342 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 13:33:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mouse.slip.net (mouse.slip.net [204.160.88.102]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA21306 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 13:33:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from david.documagix.com [204.162.173.205] by mouse.slip.net with smtp (Exim 0.53 #1) id E0ubv4u-0006KQ-00; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 13:32:45 -0700 Message-ID: <31DC29BF.21FD@webcentrix.com> Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 13:31:53 -0700 From: David Callender Reply-To: dbc@webcentrix.com Organization: WebCentrix Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b3Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Port of FreeBSD for use on Digital Alpha platform Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there a port of FreeBSD available that runs with the DEC Alpha chip? If so, where can I find it? I am aware that there is a port available for NetBSD. In addition, I would like to know any information you have regarding building firewalls with FreeBSD as well. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 13:43:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA23253 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 13:43:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlantis.nconnect.net (root@atlantis.nconnect.net [206.54.227.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23244 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 13:43:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from default ([206.54.227.183]) by atlantis.nconnect.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA04370 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 10:39:21 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <31DC2CB5.6F83@nconnect.net> Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 15:42:29 -0500 From: Randy DuCharme X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: kernel make error Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, Just tried making a 'custom ' kernel for my new machine. It's a 486 isa/pci mainboard currently using a DX-33 (Intel) cpu. The process gets all the way through to ... Loading kernel kern_sysctl.o: Undefined symbol '_hw_float' referenced from text segment. *** Error code 1 Stop Any ideas on what that might mean and how might I go about correcting that one? Thanks much :) Randy From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 13:59:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA25456 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 13:59:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA25270 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 13:57:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id VAA14679; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 21:55:57 +0100 (BST) To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: When will Pine 3.94 be ported? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Jul 1996 13:02:07 PDT." Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 21:55:56 +0100 Message-ID: <14677.836513756@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Doug White wrote in message ID : > Or is it necessary to port it? A port exists, but it hasn't been committed yet as I took a quick look at it a few days ago and thought . o O ( YIPES ) as it looked kinda complicated and I didn't particularly want to try unravelling it during a code freeze with other stuff to do. It'll likely go in after the freeze is lifted. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 14:13:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA27063 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:13:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA27053 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:13:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA13585; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:11:07 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607042111.OAA13585@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: Port of FreeBSD for use on Digital Alpha platform To: dbc@webcentrix.com Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:11:07 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31DC29BF.21FD@webcentrix.com> from "David Callender" at Jul 4, 96 01:31:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Is there a port of FreeBSD available that runs with the DEC Alpha chip? No. There is a hacked up NetBSD, but the machines had to go back before a port could be completed. > If so, where can I find it? On a tape and/or unmounted hard disk at Jeffrey's or Terry's house. > I am aware that there is a port available for NetBSD. Yes. Most of Jeffrey's work on the 21066 PCI Alpha motherboard port of NetBSD has been integrated. Maybe some of my console code changes made it (maybe not, though). All the other stuff was pretty much unintegrated cruft at the time the machines went back. > In addition, I would like to know any information you have regarding > building firewalls with FreeBSD as well. Check the handbook, the FAQ, the ipfw port, and the ipfilter port (and accompanying documentation). If you have specific questions after that, post them. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 14:25:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA28922 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:25:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ki.net (root@ki.net [205.150.102.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA28907 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by ki.net (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id RAA04242; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 17:25:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 17:25:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: When will Pine 3.94 be ported? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Doug White wrote: > Or is it necessary to port it? > compiled out of the box using 'neb'...as does IMAP-4 on washington... Marc G. Fournier scrappy@ki.net Systems Administrator @ ki.net scrappy@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 14:36:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA01117 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:36:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po2.glue.umd.edu (po2.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA01100 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:36:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from skipper.eng.umd.edu (skipper.eng.umd.edu [129.2.103.24]) by po2.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA04353; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 17:36:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by skipper.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA13145; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 17:36:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 17:36:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@skipper.eng.umd.edu To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: tinman@cco.net, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Windows and DOS for Free BSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Doug White wrote: > On Wed, 3 Jul 1996 tinman@cco.net wrote: > > > A few quick questions. Can I run MS DOS, Windows 3.X and Windows '95 > > programs in FreeBSD? Also, what are the system requirements? > > Ouch. Please correct me here, people: > > DOS: yes with dosemu, not very well tho. Last I heard we are working > with BSD/OS to port over their 'rundos' system. > > Windows 3.X: Yes? with Willows or Wine. > > Win95: No way as of yet, AFAIK. > > Don't expect 100% compatibility with any of these. > > Any reason you'd want to punish yourself by running DOS programs under > FreeBSD? Unfortunately, yes. Engineering classes here require matlab, which unfortunately is a dos beast. I'd LOVE to be able to run it (or Mathcad, even better) under FreeBSD. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 14:42:50 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA01624 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:42:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA01607 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:42:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ac02699; 4 Jul 96 21:42 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id ab20286; 4 Jul 96 22:40 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA01230; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:17:29 GMT Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:17:29 GMT Message-Id: <199607041417.OAA01230@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: jimd@mistery.mcafee.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <201007032228.PAA24532@mistery.mcafee.com> (message from Jim Dennis on Sat, 3 Jul 110 15:28:56 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: src tree owners Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [Cc line trimmed slightly] > > Something that just occurred to me - doesn't some network backup > > software require a .rhosts file for the user "bin"? If so, doesn't > > this leave the system source code potentially vulnerable? On second thoughts, isn't this what the "operator" user is for? (Sorry if I sound a bit clueless here, I use DOS floppies for backing up my system!) > I agree. I was thinking of going in and chown'ing those to > root.root or chmod'ing them them to 600. I like the suggestion of chgrp'ing them to "prog" and then putting everyone who needs to access them into that group. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 14:43:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA01693 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:43:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA01675 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:43:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ah02699; 4 Jul 96 21:42 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa20312; 4 Jul 96 22:41 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA01258; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:54:56 GMT Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:54:56 GMT Message-Id: <199607041454.OAA01258@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: zach@blizzard.gaffaneys.com CC: andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <87ohlwttpm.fsf@freebsd.gaffaneys.com> (message from Zach Heilig on 04 Jul 1996 01:31:49 -0500) Subject: Re: Sorting Incoming Mail Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Zach Heilig writes: [How to read mailing lists with GNUS] > The wierd thing is when I set it up, it wouldn't work no matter how > much I fiddled with it, then for some reason I rebooted, and all of a > sudden, it worked. Odd, isn't it? (I think it has to do with having > the sticky-bit set on the emacs executable, and having just upgraded > from gnus 5.0.4 or something.. it might be modifing the already loaded > core image). The sticky bit is an archaism - it meant "keep this executable in swap when I quit it because I use it a lot and it takes a long time to load". Modern Unices (including of course FreeBSD) ignore this as their virtual memory management is clever enough to work that out without such unsubtle hints. (Not to be confused with the sticky bit on a directory, which means "the files in this directory may only be deleted by their owner" and is still very much in use for world-writeable directories like /tmp). I'd have thought it was probably something like a piece of Lisp code that needed to be re-loaded but wasn't - presumably you tried the obvious things like closing and re-starting Emacs? -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 14:43:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA01732 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:43:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA01704 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id af02699; 4 Jul 96 21:42 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa20366; 4 Jul 96 22:41 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA01288; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 15:26:04 GMT Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 15:26:04 GMT Message-Id: <199607041526.PAA01288@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: root@andrsn.stanford.edu CC: zach@blizzard.gaffaneys.com, andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Charlie ROOT on Thu, 4 Jul 1996 00:33:14 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: Sorting Incoming Mail Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Charlie ROOT writes: > > Now that's cool Zach, then you get threads too. Another reason for > emacs. Indeed! (BTW did you know there's an Emacs for VMS?) > What I don't quite get is subscribing to different groups under > different names--e.g., instead of subscribing to doc as andrsn@ > andrsn.stanford.edu, I'd subscribe as fdocs@andrsn.stanford.edu, > create a user (without a valid shell or some such, so even if the > user had a password it would never need to be used) named fdocs, It's probably a good idea to put an asterisk in the password field if you want to prevent anyone from logging in as that user. (Not strictly necessary if they have an invalid shell, but a useful extra precaution). > and then use procmail to sort all mail to fdocs into the > appropriate folder/file in /usr/home/andrsn. Is that how people > do it? I'm too lazy to learn how to use procmail, and I keep meaning to get around to setting up GNUS. At the moment, I just log in as each pseudo-user and read their mail, but Zach's posting has inspired me to have a go at finally sorting this out. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 14:45:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA02037 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:45:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA02017 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:45:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ab02662; 4 Jul 96 21:42 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa20298; 4 Jul 96 22:41 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA01154; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 13:27:55 GMT Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 13:27:55 GMT Message-Id: <199607041327.NAA01154@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: mcnab@bayarea.net CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199607032344.QAA02671@baygate.bayarea.net> (message from David McNab on Wed, 3 Jul 1996 16:44:12 -0700) Subject: Re: PentiumPro Motherboards Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> David McNab writes: Can't help you with the rest of your questions, but:- > BTW, I have found surprisingly little good > information on motherboards out on the Web. Are there > some good sites I'm missing, or is it just a confusing > subject? I haven't used them myself (yet!), but ASUS motherboards are very highly regarded in the FreeBSD community:- http://www.asus.com.tw/ There's a hardware mailing list which has good discussions on this and other hardware-related subjects; the list archives should be a fruitful source of info. To subscribe, do echo "subscribe hardware mcnab@bayarea.net" | mail majordomo@freebsd.org -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 15:09:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA05890 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 15:09:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rif.kconline.com (rif.kconline.com [207.51.167.75]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA05877 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 15:08:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jriffle@localhost) by rif.kconline.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA07525; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 17:04:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 17:04:39 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Riffle To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: When will Pine 3.94 be ported? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Doug White wrote: > Or is it necessary to port it? > Not to sure, but if you do not mind the mouse functions not working in X, the port is not too difficult. I have been running it for a few weeks now, and everything seems to work. I could be missing something though. What I did was: untar the archive :) go to the pico directory it makes edit the makefile.neb and remove the -DMOUSE define. Then, go to the pine directory, edit the makefile.neb and remove the -DMOUSE define from there as well. Then just run 'build neb' and it will compile just fine. Hope that helps, all functions appear to work fine. Jim From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 15:12:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA06549 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 15:12:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA06543 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 15:12:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA06693; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 15:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 15:12:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: When will Pine 3.94 be ported? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Doug White wrote: > Or is it necessary to port it? It's been ported; it's at ftp.freebsd.org in FreeBSD/../../incoming. People who have tried to build it without the port have had trouble. My only problem with it is that it doesn't queue the outgoing mail. Annelise From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 15:14:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA06875 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 15:14:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA06865 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 15:14:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seagull.rtd.com (root@seagull.rtd.com [198.102.68.2]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id PAA16295 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 15:14:29 -0700 Received: (from dgy@localhost) by seagull.rtd.com (8.7.5/1.2) id PAA29080 for freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 15:12:52 -0700 (MST) From: Don Yuniskis Message-Id: <199607042212.PAA29080@seagull.rtd.com> Subject: wu-ftpd compress... To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 15:12:51 -0700 (MST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings! > From: Werner Griessl > Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 16:34:50 +0000 () > Subject: Re: setting up wu-ftpd > > > > On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Werner Griessl wrote: > > > > > > >Found the solution now ! > > > > > > It didn't for me!. I made the change to ftpaccess, and get this message > > > > > > 0:/ > > > ncftp>cd /pub/netscape/gold/ > > > You have new mail. > > > 0:/pub/netscape/gold > > > (Mail) ncftp>ls -al > > > total 16 > > > drwxr-xr-x 4 root operator 512 Jul 3 23:45 ./ > > > drwxr-xr-x 5 root operator 512 Jul 3 23:45 ../ > > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root operator 512 Jul 3 23:39 2/ > > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root operator 512 Jul 3 23:38 3/ > > > 0:/pub/netscape/gold > > > ncftp>get 2.tar.gz > > > Local error: conversion program not found. Cannot TAR+GZIP file. > > > 0:/pub/netscape/gold > > > ncftp>quit > > > You have mail in /var/mail/khetan > > > [chain] ~$ > > > > > > My ftpaccess file contains > > > > > > compress yes all local remote > > > tar yes all local remote > > > zip yes all local remote > > > > > > and my ftpconversions file is > > > > > > :.Z : : :/usr/ftp/bin/gzip -d -c %s:T_REG|T_ASCII:O_UNCOMPRESS:UNCOMPRESS > > > : : :.Z:/usr/ftp/bin/compress -c %s:T_REG:O_COMPRESS:COMPRESS > > > :.gz: : :/usr/ftp/bin/gzip -cd %s:T_REG|T_ASCII:O_UNCOMPRESS:GUNZIP > > > : : :.gz:/usr/ftp/bin/gzip -9 -c %s:T_REG:O_COMPRESS:GZIP > > > : : :.zip:/usr/ftp/bin/zip -9 -r %s:T_REG:O_COMPRESS:ZIP > > > : : :.tar:/usr/ftp/bin/tar -c -f - %s:T_REG|T_DIR:O_TAR:TAR > > > : : :.tar.Z:/usr/ftp/bin/tar -c -Z -f - %s:T_REG|T_DIR:O_COMPRESS|O_TAR:TAR+COMPRESS > > > : : :.tar.gz:/usr/ftp/bin/tar -c -z -f - %s:T_REG|T_DIR:O_COMPRESS|O_TAR:TAR+GZIP > > I believe that's wrong (unless you have a ~ftp/usr/ftp/bin/gzip). The paths > > are relative to the chroot'ed ftp home dir. You need a > > ~ftp/bin/{gzip,tar,compress}. > > > > :.Z: : :/bin/gzip -d -c %s:T_REG|T_ASCII:O_UNCOMPRESS:UNCOMPRESS > > : : :.Z:/bin/compress -c %s:T_REG:O_COMPRESS:COMPRESS > > :.gz: : :/bin/gzip -cd %s:T_REG|T_ASCII:O_UNCOMPRESS:GUNZIP > > : : :.gz:/bin/gzip -9 -c %s:T_REG:O_COMPRESS:GZIP > > : : :.tar:/bin/tar -c -f - %s:T_REG|T_DIR:O_TAR:TAR > > : : :.tar.Z:/bin/tar -c -Z -f - %s:T_REG|T_DIR:O_COMPRESS|O_TAR:TAR+COMPRESS > > : : :.tar.gz:/bin/tar -c -z -f - %s:T_REG|T_DIR:O_COMPRESS|O_TAR:TAR+GZIP > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Khetan Gajjar. > > > > > > --- > > > http://www.chain.iafrica.com/~khetan/ > > > UUNet-Internet Africa > > > Operations - 0800-030-002 > > > > > > > > > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de > > > > I use /usr/bin/ in ftpconversions and a link from ftp's HOME/usr/bin -> HOME/bin. > This will work for both ftp and "normal" users ! > I use also statically linked binaries in ftp's HOME to avoid problems with > the shared libraries path. > > Works for me except .Z (compress). Don't no why . > > Werner I think you'll find compress is NOT built static (at least it wasn't in 2.1R). You can use gzip (I believe) to give you compress's behaviour, though... --don From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 15:18:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA07802 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 15:18:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail (mail.bcpl.lib.md.us [204.255.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA07787 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 15:18:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp128.bcpl.lib.md.us by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA21755; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 18:19:21 +0500 Received: by ppp128.bcpl.lib.md.us with Microsoft Mail id <01BB69D5.34F2D2A0@ppp128.bcpl.lib.md.us>; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 18:18:32 -0400 Message-Id: <01BB69D5.34F2D2A0@ppp128.bcpl.lib.md.us> From: Anil John To: "questions@freebsd.org" , "'Randy DuCharme'" Subject: RE: kernel make error Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 18:18:30 -0400 Encoding: 24 TEXT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Randy DuCharme[SMTP:randyd@nconnect.net] wrote: >Greetings, > >Just tried making a 'custom ' kernel for my new machine. It's a 486 >isa/pci mainboard currently using a DX-33 (Intel) cpu. > >The process gets all the way through to ... > >Loading kernel >kern_sysctl.o: Undefined symbol '_hw_float' referenced from text segment. > >*** Error code 1 > Randy, This might be a case of the blind leading the blind since I am very new to FreeBSD, but check your kernel configuration file for a 'device npx0'. This is a required device whether your CPU has a math coprocessor or not.. Anil P.S. Everyone: If I am giving the wrong advice to Randy, Please jump in :) From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 15:39:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA10139 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 15:39:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA10129; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 15:39:08 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199607042239.PAA10129@freefall.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Majordomo problem (help) To: dbabler@Rigel.orionsys.com (Dave Babler) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 15:39:08 -0700 (PDT) Cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, bala@cst.com.au, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Dave Babler" at Jul 4, 96 11:01:07 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dave Babler wrote: > > > > I spent most of yesterday afternoon trying to get Majordomo to work and > have exactly the same error. The error 137 (according to the Majordomo > docs) is probably being returned from the mailer (sendmail in my case) > but the man page for sendmail points to the syscodes header file which > does not contain 137. If you run 'top' while majordomo runs, you'll see that > it starts out with a few hundred k of swap, then every few seconds it > grabs more and more and more and eventually runs out, faults and is > killed. I assume it's a permissions error, but all I have to go on is the > error code (136 or 137). If you find out anything more, please let me know. majordomo is very picky about permissions on files and directories in general, make things owned by a majordom user with group write permission enabled. jmb -- Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD--4.4BSD Unix for PC clones, source included. http://www.freebsd.org/ PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 15:55:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA12900 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 15:55:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from synwork.com (flaq@synwork.com [199.3.234.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12871 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 15:55:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (flaq@localhost) by synwork.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA20914; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 17:55:37 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 17:55:36 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike K." To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: When will Pine 3.94 be ported? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Already ported and installed here. I have to ftp it from ftp.freebsd.org/incoming (I think) Mike On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Doug White wrote: > Or is it necessary to port it? > > Thanks! > > Doug White | University of Oregon > Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > > ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Syn-Work Media, Inc. | WWW Development & Hosting | Life Safety http://www.synwork.com | Systems Integration | CCTV mike@synwork.com | Voice/Data/Fiber | Access Control Flaq on IRC | Dukane Distributor | BICSI/RCDD ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 15:59:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA13566 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 15:59:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.iafrica.com (root@chain.iafrica.com [196.31.1.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA13551 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 15:59:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (khetan@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chain.iafrica.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA01535; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 00:58:26 +0200 (SAT) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 00:58:25 +0200 (SAT) From: Khetan Gajjar To: "Christoph P. Kukulies" cc: croot@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: setting up wu-ftpd In-Reply-To: <199607041428.QAA11810@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Christoph P. Kukulies wrote: >I believe that's wrong (unless you have a ~ftp/usr/ftp/bin/gzip). The paths >are relative to the chroot'ed ftp home dir. You need a >~ftp/bin/{gzip,tar,compress}. Oh - ok! Solved the problem. Thanks! Regards, Khetan Gajjar. --- http://www.chain.iafrica.com/~khetan/ UUNet-Internet Africa Operations - 0800-030-002 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 16:14:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA15879 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 16:14:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grex.cyberspace.org (grex.cyberspace.org [152.160.30.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA15784 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 16:13:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from igal@localhost) by grex.cyberspace.org (8.6.13/8.6.12) id TAA03910 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 19:11:47 -0400 Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 19:11:47 -0400 From: Rubinstein Igal Message-Id: <199607042311.TAA03910@grex.cyberspace.org> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: DosEmu Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi ! Can I run DosEmu (Linux Dos Emulator) under FreeBsd ? What must be done in order to use this program ? My best regards, Igal. P.S My FreeBsd is 2.1 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 16:17:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA16319 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 16:17:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ki.net (root@ki.net [205.150.102.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA16301 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 16:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by ki.net (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id TAA06085; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 19:16:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 19:16:56 -0400 (EDT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Jim Riffle cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: When will Pine 3.94 be ported? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Jim Riffle wrote: > > > On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Doug White wrote: > > > Or is it necessary to port it? > > > > Not to sure, but if you do not mind the mouse functions not working in X, > the port is not too difficult. I have been running it for a few weeks > now, and everything seems to work. I could be missing something though. > > What I did was: > untar the archive :) > go to the pico directory it makes > edit the makefile.neb and remove the -DMOUSE define. > Then, go to the pine directory, > edit the makefile.neb and remove the -DMOUSE define from there as well. > > Then just run 'build neb' > and it will compile just fine. > *scratch chin* I just did 'build neb' without removing the -DMOUSE defines and it compiled fine...straight out of the box... Marc G. Fournier scrappy@ki.net Systems Administrator @ ki.net scrappy@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 16:29:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA17638 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 16:29:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rif.kconline.com (rif.kconline.com [207.51.167.75]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA17628 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 16:29:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by rif.kconline.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA07622; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 18:24:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 18:24:46 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Riffle To: "Marc G. Fournier" cc: Jim Riffle , dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: When will Pine 3.94 be ported? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > *scratch chin* I just did 'build neb' without removing the > -DMOUSE defines and it compiled fine...straight out of the box... > I always seem to find the hard way! Actually though, without removing the -DMOUSE define on my system, pico would not compile. This did not stop the compiliation.Pine still was compiling, so I stopped it assuming it would not work with the old pico. This could just be my system, but that is the way it happened here. You may wish to check to make sure your version of pico is 2.8. I believe 2.5 comes with 3.91. It is possiable that your are using the old pico, if this is not just something with my system. If so, removing that define, will fix it. Jim From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 16:58:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA20137 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 16:58:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atlantis.nconnect.net (root@atlantis.nconnect.net [206.54.227.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA20131 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 16:58:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from default ([206.54.227.205]) by atlantis.nconnect.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA05768; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 13:53:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <31DC5A4D.149F@nconnect.net> Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 18:57:01 -0500 From: Randy DuCharme X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anil John CC: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: kernel make error References: <01BB69D5.34F2D2A0@ppp128.bcpl.lib.md.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anil John wrote: > > Randy DuCharme[SMTP:randyd@nconnect.net] wrote: > >Greetings, > > > >Just tried making a 'custom ' kernel for my new machine. It's a 486 > >isa/pci mainboard currently using a DX-33 (Intel) cpu. > > > >The process gets all the way through to ... > > > >Loading kernel > >kern_sysctl.o: Undefined symbol '_hw_float' referenced from text > segment. > > > >*** Error code 1 > > > > Randy, > > This might be a case of the blind leading the blind since I am very new to > FreeBSD, but check your kernel configuration file for a 'device npx0'. > This is a required device whether your CPU has a math coprocessor or not.. > > Anil > > P.S. Everyone: If I am giving the wrong advice to Randy, Please jump in :) Thanks Anil, I seem to have solved the problem although it falls in the "believe it or not" category. I did have the 'device npx0' in the config file as you offered. I've built several FBSD kernels without any errors such as these. I just happened to notice that the fan on the CPU heat sink wasn't turning. I replaced the fan, re-started the machine, re-made the kernel... no problems!! I've never seen DX-33's thermally sensitive before. That's one for the books! Thanks again Randy From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 17:32:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA23660 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 17:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sili.adn.edu.ph (info@sili.adn.edu.ph [165.220.57.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA23620 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 17:31:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from info@localhost) by sili.adn.edu.ph (8.6.11/8.6.9) id IAA15460; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 08:51:23 +1000 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 08:51:22 +1000 (GMT+1000) From: Information Help Desk To: Werner Griessl cc: Khetan Gajjar , questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: setting up wu-ftpd In-Reply-To: <199607041203.MAA00938@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk HI !!! Thanks Werner. I got it to work already. Hoping to ask you more questions. -- jf From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 17:58:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA26037 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 17:58:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay.hp.com (relay.hp.com [15.255.152.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA26032 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 17:58:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hpautobo.aus.hp.com by relay.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA072678307; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 17:58:29 -0700 Message-Id: <199607050058.AA072678307@relay.hp.com> Received: by hpautobo.aus.hp.com (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA214258304; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 10:58:24 +1000 From: M C Wong Subject: [2.1R] same IP address assigned to ed0 and ppp0 ? To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org (freebsd-questions@freefall.cdrom.com) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 96 10:58:23 EST Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Correct me if I'm wrong: FreeBSD 2.1R supports same IP addresses assigned onto different types of network interfaces, in particular a PPP interface and an Ethernet interface. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ M.C Wong Email: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com Australian Telecom Operation Voice: +61 3 9210 5568 Hewlett-Packard Australia Ltd Fax: +61 3 9210 5550 P.O. Box 221, Blackburn 3130, Australia From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 18:06:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA27047 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 18:06:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA27035 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 18:06:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ac20017; 5 Jul 96 1:06 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa24741; 5 Jul 96 2:04 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA02965; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 22:18:23 GMT Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 22:18:23 GMT Message-Id: <199607042218.WAA02965@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Doug White on Thu, 4 Jul 1996 13:02:07 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: When will Pine 3.94 be ported? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Or is it necessary to port it? > Thanks! Apparently there's a port sitting in /incoming on ftp.freebsd.org - it hasn't been committed as the ports collection is currently frozen pending the 2.1.5 release. Alternatively, using the NetBSD target is claimed to work. (Disclaimer: this is from what I've read, I use Emacs to read mail!) -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 18:06:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA27070 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 18:06:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA27063 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 18:06:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id aa20019; 5 Jul 96 1:06 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa24748; 5 Jul 96 2:04 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA02997; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 22:51:14 GMT Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 22:51:14 GMT Message-Id: <199607042251.WAA02997@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu CC: tinman@cco.net, questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Doug White on Thu, 4 Jul 1996 13:07:34 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: Windows and DOS for Free BSD Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > A few quick questions. Can I run MS DOS, Windows 3.X and Windows '95 > > programs in FreeBSD? Also, what are the system requirements? > > Ouch. Please correct me here, people: This is all correct as far as I know, but just one or two extra points which might be worth mentioning. > DOS: yes with dosemu, not very well tho. Last I heard we are working > with BSD/OS to port over their 'rundos' system. There's also the mtools package, which allows you to work with DOS floppies as if you were using DOS (more or less). If you're a games addict, the Linux version of Doom will run under the Linux emulator. > Windows 3.X: Yes? with Willows or Wine. Wine has still got a long way to go from what I hear - it will run Solitaire, but not a great deal else. I don't know anything about Willows - isn't it a commercial product? > Win95: No way as of yet, AFAIK. Yep. We don't even have the capability to read a Win95 filesystem yet (except by pretending it's a DOS one - no long file names). > Don't expect 100% compatibility with any of these. Very much so! As with any other volunteer project, things only get done if someone with the time, the inclination and the ability does them. And not many people seem to be interested in working on this kind of thing... > Any reason you'd want to punish yourself by running DOS programs under > FreeBSD? :-) -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 18:07:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA27164 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 18:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA27155 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 18:07:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ad20017; 5 Jul 96 1:06 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa24759; 5 Jul 96 2:04 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA02979; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 22:30:45 GMT Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 22:30:45 GMT Message-Id: <199607042230.WAA02979@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: dbabler@rigel.orionsys.com CC: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, bala@cst.com.au, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Dave Babler on Thu, 4 Jul 1996 11:01:07 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: Majordomo problem (help) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> Dave Babler writes: [re Majordomo causing all the swap to be used up] > I spent most of yesterday afternoon trying to get Majordomo to work and > have exactly the same error. The error 137 (according to the Majordomo > docs) is probably being returned from the mailer (sendmail in my case) > but the man page for sendmail points to the syscodes header file which > does not contain 137. If you run 'top' while majordomo runs, you'll see that Sendmail has a rather strange way of returning codes - apparently these are documented in -current. If I remember rightly, it adds 128 to the error number, so the true error number is 9 (128 + 9 = 137), which corresponds to EBADF (Bad file descriptor). This doesn't seem to get us any further. > it starts out with a few hundred k of swap, then every few seconds it > grabs more and more and more and eventually runs out, faults and is > killed. I assume it's a permissions error, but all I have to go on is the > error code (136 or 137). If you find out anything more, please let me know. Something is clearly causing Perl to go into an endless loop and eat up all the system's virtual memory. Since 99% of Majordomo problems are permissions-related (allegedly), that's what I'd look at first. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 20:24:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA07001 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 20:24:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from isd.ingham.k12.mi.us (isd.ingham.k12.mi.us [35.8.2.240]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA06995 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 20:24:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from johnlab-1 (pm098-24.dialip.mich.net [35.9.14.65]) by isd.ingham.k12.mi.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA12608 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 23:24:43 -0400 Message-ID: <31DC8ABE.46E6@ingham.k12.mi.us> Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 23:23:42 -0400 From: John Gibbs Reply-To: jgibbs@ingham.k12.mi.us Organization: J-Squad X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Linux and FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How do Linux and FreeBSD differ? Since they both emulate UNIX, how exactly are they different? FreeBSD can run X-Windows, correct? One last question.....how many megs of hard disk does a typical installation of FreeBSD use? Thank You. jgibbs@ingham.k12.mi.us http://isd.ingham.k12.mi.us/~jgibbs From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 20:54:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA08895 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 20:54:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bambam.vision.net.id (root@[202.150.2.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA08888 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 20:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from canary.iwan.org (iwan@[202.150.2.68]) by bambam.vision.net.id (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA06249 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 17:49:07 +0700 (JVT) Message-ID: <31DC941B.41C67EA6@vision.net.id> Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 11:03:39 +0700 From: Iwan Leonardus Organization: skd X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: dial in Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have a question... I have P75 with 16550 UART on board, 16 MB memory and trying to configure for dial in modem. when I set ttyd1 speed to std.115200 at /etc/ttys and after I 'kill -1 1' there is an error message: init: getty repeating too quickly on port /dev/ttyd1, sleeping 30 secs three times, and after 30 secs later (I think) appear three times again. the port COM2 is unconnected. The message do not appear when I set speed to std.57600 Is that because my port can not handle that kind of speed or I dont have the CPU power to handle that? For information, I have set the rc.serial to speed 115200 and there are no error message, the message appear after I set the /etc/ttys Thanks in advandce Iwan Leonardus From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 20:58:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA10981 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 20:58:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freehold.pc.cs.cmu.edu (FREEHOLD.PC.CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.191.115]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA10953 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 20:58:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mwhite@localhost) by freehold.pc.cs.cmu.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) id XAA29184; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 23:58:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 23:58:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt White To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Limiting find's descent depth Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know of a good way to keep find from descending more than N directories when doing a search? -Matt From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 21:37:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA14815 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 21:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ki.net (root@ki.net [205.150.102.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA14808 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 21:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by ki.net (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id AAA26344; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 00:36:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 00:36:56 -0400 (EDT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" To: Matt White cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Limiting find's descent depth In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Matt White wrote: > Does anyone know of a good way to keep find from descending more than N > directories when doing a search? from the man page (note: this is from gnu find, I think): -maxdepth levels Descend at most levels (a non-negative integer) levels of directories below the command line argu- ments. `-maxdepth 0' means only apply the tests and actions to the command line arguments. Marc G. Fournier scrappy@ki.net Systems Administrator @ ki.net scrappy@freebsd.org From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 21:38:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA14892 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 21:38:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ktnet (ktnet.ktnet.co.kr [203.248.73.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA14883 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 21:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sphere.ktnet.co.kr (sphere.ktnet.co.kr [203.248.73.96]) by ktnet (SMI-8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA20509 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:37:07 +0900 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960705043821.00693e14@ktnet.co.kr> X-Sender: geoid@ktnet.co.kr X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 13:38:21 +0900 To: questions@freebsd.org From: "Jun, Gyu-Chang" Subject: MD5 checksum error on rzsz-3.36 port. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, there.. I have got error during install rzsz-3.36 port. The installation session looks like follows... > panic# make > >> rzsz3_36.zip doesn't seem to exist on this system. > >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/unix/zmodem/. > Receiving rzsz3_36.zip (71304 bytes): 100% > 71304 bytes transfered in 30.1 seconds (2.32 K/s) > >> Checksum mismatch for rzsz3_36.zip > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > panic# more files/md5 > MD5 (rzsz3_36.zip) = e9ec97abba705febabbce556844fc5b2 > panic# md5 /usr/ports/distfiles/rzsz3_36.zip > MD5 (/usr/ports/distfiles/rzsz3_36.zip) = 42ae2385fc20c085a2b0c6b72c5a0b47 > panic# What's going on? Can I ignore this checksum mismatch? Thanks in Advance... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Korea Trade Network. Communication Business Team. Tech. Staff ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 22:11:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA17836 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 22:11:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA17831 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 22:11:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id GAA15877; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 06:11:02 +0100 (BST) To: "Jun, Gyu-Chang" cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: MD5 checksum error on rzsz-3.36 port. In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 05 Jul 1996 13:38:21 +0900." <2.2.32.19960705043821.00693e14@ktnet.co.kr> Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 06:11:00 +0100 Message-ID: <15874.836543460@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Jun, Gyu-Chang" wrote in message ID <2.2.32.19960705043821.00693e14@ktnet.co.kr>: > What's going on? Can I ignore this checksum mismatch? It means that (yet again) someone has changed the contents of the file without actually changing the file name. You can try doing `make makesum' and then `make' again and see if that works, but it's possible that any patches which are applied will fail. You could also try getting the file from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/distfiles/ and see if that matches the checksum you have. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 22:16:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA18268 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 22:16:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA18256 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 22:16:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from trepan.io.org (trepan.io.org [198.133.36.8]) by who.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) with ESMTP id WAA17555 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 22:16:21 -0700 Received: (from batsy@localhost) by trepan.io.org (8.6.9/8.6.9) id BAA11860; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 01:15:02 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 01:15:01 -0400 (EDT) From: jamie To: freebsd-install@freebsd.org Subject: SIGPIPE in jun12 SNAP install Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have gone through the archives and I haven't found anything on this. I have been trying to install the jun 12 SNAP and it almost gets there... But, when I try to install the packages, I look in the "emergency VTY" and it tells me that it can't pkg_add because of a SIGPIPE error. Someone has pointed out to me that this may meant that (in all likelyhood) when it tries to pipe something to tar, tar is no longer a process. His other suggestion was that it may not be tar, but it seems that a command it being piped to a dead process or non-existant string. I have also lost my partition table, but I think that I deserved it. (MAKEDEV all :)) I have got it installed a few times without a hitch, but then it barfs when I try to add packegs or X. I am doing a network install over ethernet, and I have also tried using the master site. BTW, it doesn't seem to want to recognize $PATH very well either, but maybe that's another config error on my part. The big problem is the SIGPIPE error though. If anyone has any ideas I'd love to hear the m as the 12-16 hours that I have spent on this aren't as fun as the first 3 were:) A fish walks into a bar, completely skewing all laws of probablility in the universe which, subsequently, implodes. Some Guy Named Jamie batsy@io.org From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 22:24:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA18959 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 22:24:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apl2.sv.cc.yamaguchi-u.ac.jp ([133.62.192.43]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA18938 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 22:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kondor@localhost) by apl2.sv.cc.yamaguchi-u.ac.jp (8.6.12+2.4W/3.3W) id OAA01524; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 14:23:31 +0900 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 14:23:31 +0900 (JST) From: Gabor Kondorosi X-Sender: kondor@apl2.sv To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Motif & others Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear Webmaster, Please, let me ask some questions on FreeBSD & XFree86. I have checked the FAQ and the selected man pages but I couldn't find answer to any of them. If it's my mistake, please, forgive me. Anyway: 1. What's the relation (if any) between FreeBSD and BSD/OS? Do they have the same historical roots perhaps? 2. Does the FreeBSD-kernel support multicast routing? Does the (latest) package contain "mrouted"? 3. Is Motif available to FreeBSD (XFree86)? Thanks for your kind help. Regards, ============================================================================== * Gabor KONDOROSI M.Sc. Dpt. of Petrology & Geochemistry Eotvos Lorand University, Muzeum krt. 4/a, H-1088 Budapest, Hungary. * Present address: Yamaguchi University International House 1677-1 Yoshida, Yamaguchi City, 753 Japan. Tel.: +81 (0) 839-33-1828 * E-mail: kondor@po.cc.yamaguchi-u.ac.jp (until 31st March, 1997) kondor@iris.elte.hu (permanent) ============================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 22:47:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA21785 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 22:47:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA21774 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 22:47:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id GAA16023; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 06:46:06 +0100 (BST) To: Gabor Kondorosi cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Motif & others In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 05 Jul 1996 14:23:31 +0900." Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 06:46:04 +0100 Message-ID: <16021.836545564@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gabor Kondorosi wrote in message ID : > 1. What's the relation (if any) between FreeBSD and BSD/OS? Do they have > the same historical roots perhaps? They are both derrived from the BSD 4.4 lite releases from the Computer Science Research Group (CSRG) at the University of California, Berkeley. There is a certain ammount of co-operation between the two groups, but for the most part we do separate development, and as a result our source trees have diverged. FreeBSD can, however, run binaries from BSD/OS. > 2. Does the FreeBSD-kernel support multicast routing? Does the (latest) > package contain "mrouted"? Yes on both counts. Multicast transmission / reception is enabled by default. You will need to compile a new kernel with ``options MROUTING'' and run mrouted if you want to actually have a multicast router. > 3. Is Motif available to FreeBSD (XFree86)? Yes. There are several different Motif versions for FreeBSD. I believe that several people recomment the one released by X Inside, Inc (http://www.xinside.com/) Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jul 4 23:26:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA23556 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 23:26:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sam.networx.ie (dublin-ts13-57.indigo.ie [194.125.134.57]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA23548 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 23:25:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mip1.networx.ie (mip1.networx.ie [194.9.12.1]) by sam.networx.ie (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA19550; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 22:32:12 GMT X-Organisation: I.T. NetworX Ltd X-Business: Network Consultancy and Training X-Address: 67 Merrion Square, Dublin 2, Ireland X-Voice: +353-1-676-8866 X-Fax: +353-1-676-8868 Received: from mike.networx.ie by mip1.networx.ie Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 22:30:36 BST From: Michael Ryan Reply-To: mike@networx.ie Subject: Re: Port of FreeBSD for use on Digital Alpha platform To: dbc@webcentrix.com Cc: questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dunno about port to Alpha. Use IPfilter and TCPwrappers for firewall. Also tripwire. Strip kernel, remove users, double-checks perms, disable *all* unnecessary services from inetd. Use CERN or Apache Web server. Set up 'bogus' DNS server, which only reports name/address for machines in DMZ. Configure TIS FWTK smap, ftp-gw and plug-gw. Run anon-ftp in chrooted env. Also httpd. Log everything. Maybe most importantly, know what you're doing. On Thu, 04 Jul 1996 13:31:53 -0700 David Callender wrote: > Is there a port of FreeBSD available that runs with the DEC Alpha chip? > In addition, I would like to know any information you have regarding > building firewalls with FreeBSD as well. Mike --- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 00:20:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA26406 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 00:20:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grex.cyberspace.org (igal@grex.cyberspace.org [152.160.30.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA26401 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 00:20:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from igal@localhost) by grex.cyberspace.org (8.6.13/8.6.12) id DAA10867 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 03:20:25 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 03:20:25 -0400 From: Rubinstein Igal Message-Id: <199607050720.DAA10867@grex.cyberspace.org> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: DosEmu Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 00:25:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA26630 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 00:25:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de [132.180.20.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA26625 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 00:25:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (8.7.5/8.6.12) id JAA04319; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 09:22:12 GMT From: Werner Griessl Message-Id: <199607050922.JAA04319@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de> Subject: Re: wu-ftpd compress... To: dgy@rtd.com (Don Yuniskis) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 09:22:10 +0000 () Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607042212.PAA29080@seagull.rtd.com> from Don Yuniskis at "Jul 4, 96 03:12:51 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Greetings! > > I think you'll find compress is NOT built static (at least it wasn't > in 2.1R). You can use gzip (I believe) to give you compress's > behaviour, though... > > --don > That's correct ! But you can make it static by hand with the -static switch to cc "cc -static -o compress objlist" I did it so. Werner From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 00:45:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA27668 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 00:45:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de [132.180.20.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA27656 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 00:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (8.7.5/8.6.12) id JAA06426; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 09:38:12 GMT From: Werner Griessl Message-Id: <199607050938.JAA06426@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de> Subject: Re: setting up wu-ftpd To: khetan@iafrica.com (Khetan Gajjar) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 09:38:11 +0000 () Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from Khetan Gajjar at "Jul 5, 96 02:18:56 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Werner Griessl wrote: > > >Hi Khetan, > > Hi! > > >I copied also statically linked executables to FTPHOME/bin/ and made a link > >from FTPHOME/usr/bin to FTPHOME/bin . > > I didn't create the link. However, I've solved the problem, by setting > the filters to /bin, which works fine (if the files are in /usr/ftp/bin). > > >I believe a anonymous user cannot accesss the shared libraries because the > >chroot during the login via wu-ftp . > > Now I know this ;-) > > >I copied for you also the /usr/local/etc/ftp* - files to my ftp-server: > >You can fetch them from "btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de:/pub/FreeBSD/wu-ftp" . > > Thanks. What does the passwd-check trivial warn do ? Checks the password to be a e-mail address ( a @ in it) and will give you a message during login like this: 230-The response 'prmpf' is not valid 230-Next time please use your e-mail address as your password 230- for example: joe@btp1x5.phy.uni-bayreuth.de Look in the manual you can also change this to another behaviour (e.g. close the connection in this case) > > >Hope this helps > > Very much so. Thanks for the info. > > >P.S.: in the moment all compressions work except the ".Z" . > > don't no why in the moment > > Mine seems to work. > Mine transfers Zero-files (completely empty) > Regards, > Khetan Gajjar. > > --- > http://www.chain.iafrica.com/~khetan/ > UUNet-Internet Africa > Operations - 0800-030-002 > > Regards, Werner From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 00:59:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA28128 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 00:59:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dhi.dk (gateway.dhi.dk [193.88.35.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA28122 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 00:58:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gateway.dhi.dk id <39681>; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 07:46:29 +0000 From: Juan Savioli Subject: Win 95 +FreeBSD To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 07:54:40 +0000 Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Message-Id: <96Jul5.074629gmt.39681@gateway.dhi.dk> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have a PC with Windows 95 and I want to install FreeBSD. I checked in the FAQ, and they say I install Windows 95 first and then FreeBSD. But what does it mean? I have to go to the DOS prompt and install it as if I were in DOS, or in another way. Thanks Juan -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Juan Savioli International Research Centre for Computational Hydrodynamics (ICCH) Danish Hydraulic Institute (DHI) Agern Alle 5 Tel:+45 45 76 95 55 DK 2970 Horsholm Fax:+45 42 86 00 68 Denmark Email: jcs@dhi.dk -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 01:51:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA01402 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 01:51:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from s4.elec.uq.edu.au (root@s4.elec.uq.edu.au [130.102.96.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA01392 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 01:51:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from haytham@localhost) by s4.elec.uq.edu.au (8.7.1/8.6.12) id SAA01095; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 18:32:34 +1000 (EST) From: Haytham Algyndy Message-Id: <199607050832.SAA01095@s4.elec.uq.edu.au> Subject: Re: magic port compilation problems To: chuckr@Glue.umd.edu (Chuck Robey) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 18:32:33 +1000 (EST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: haytham@s4.elec.uq.edu.au In-Reply-To: from "Chuck Robey" at Jul 4, 96 10:20:39 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Chuck, The port doesn't compile on my machine. Here's what I get haytham:/usr/ports/cad/magic make >> No checksum recorded for magic-6.4.4.tgz Checksums OK for files that have them. ===> Extracting for magic-6.4.4 ===> magic-6.4.4 depends on executable: gmake - found ===> Patching for magic-6.4.4 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for magic-6.4.4 patch: **** can't cd to /usr/ports/cad/magic/work/magic-6.4.4: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. The Makefile originally was looking for a tar.Z prefix, but I changed it to tgz, since this is the case for the tarball available. Best regards Haytham -- ________________________________________________________________________ Haytham Abd-Alsalam Algyndy Dept. of Elec. and Comp. Eng. The UNIVERSITY of QUEENSLAND Brisbane 4072, Queensland Australia haytham@elec.uq.edu.au tel. 61 - 07 - 365 356 4 (AW) Fax. 61 - 07 - 365 499 9 ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 02:49:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA04466 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 02:49:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA04461 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 02:48:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with SMTP (5.59:21/EUnetD-2.5.4.c) via EUnet id LAA23353; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:48:50 +0200 Received: from escpc01.esc.de by mail.esc.de (4.1/GEN-1.2.0.99) via ESC for [192.76.144.65] id AA26673; Fri, 5 Jul 96 11:49:04 +0200 Received: by escpc01.esc.de with Microsoft Mail id <01BB6A67.F5F88020@escpc01.esc.de>; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:49:02 +-200 Message-Id: <01BB6A67.F5F88020@escpc01.esc.de> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mathias_P=E4zolt?= To: "'questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Installation-Problems Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:48:58 +-200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have a big problem with installaion freebsd. Every time and every = computer i get a message from the intallation-program after the step = Label, that the program can't create the root-partition. Where is the = error? Thanks for help Mathias From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 04:01:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA07667 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 04:01:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de [132.180.20.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA07657 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 04:01:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (8.7.5/8.6.12) id MAA00604; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 12:59:35 GMT From: Werner Griessl Message-Id: <199607051259.MAA00604@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de> Subject: Re: Installation-Problems To: matpae@esc.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mathias_P=E4zolt?=) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 12:59:34 +0000 () Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <01BB6A67.F5F88020@escpc01.esc.de> from =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mathias_P=E4zolt?= at "Jul 5, 96 11:48:58 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi, > I have a big problem with installaion freebsd. Every time and every computer i get a message from the intallation-program after the step Label, that the program can't create the root-partition. Where is the error? > > Thanks for help > > Mathias > Hi Mathias, Please give us more information ! Which FreeBSD ? Which hardware (cpu ?, memory ?, isa/eisa/pci-bus ?, ide/scsi-disk ? ... ) Which installation medium ? Sounds like wrong driveparameters in your biossetup or perhaps you try to install behind the dumb DOS 1024 cyl limit . Werner From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 04:06:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA07885 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 04:06:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyberport.com (root@puma.cyberport.com [204.134.75.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA07880; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 04:06:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hippo.cyberport.com (kevin@hippo.cyberport.com [204.134.75.2]) by cyberport.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA08811; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 05:06:10 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 05:06:11 -0600 (MDT) From: Kevin Rosenberg To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Can file accessed time be disabled? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've heard of someone who has disabled the directory updating of last accessed time for files. They found a significant improvement in their news server performance. For a news server, storing last accessed time is not particularly important. I've glanced through the code, but I am unsure where to disable the writing of last access time in directory. Has anyone ever done this with FreeBSD? -------------------------------------------------------------------- Kevin Rosenberg | CyberPort Station Chief System Administrator | The Finest Internet Service Possible! kevin@cyberport.com | http://www.cyberport.com Finger kevin@cyberport.com for PGP Public Key -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 04:22:11 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA08848 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 04:22:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linked.net (root@linked.net [205.149.189.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA08839; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 04:22:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from PPP28.sunbeach.net (PPP28.SUNBEACH.NET [205.214.199.50]) by linked.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA17065; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 04:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 07:21:56 -0400 (AST) From: "sales@caribia.com" X-Sender: caribia@PPP28.sunbeach.net To: jhk@freebsd.org cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: The Netscape R3.0 Port Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I think you should modify the Makefile to call 30b5a instead of 30b5 Netscape has a new revision level. Sean Batson From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 04:30:34 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA10078 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 04:30:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns2.win.net (ns2.win.net [204.215.209.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA10072 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 04:30:32 -0700 (PDT) From: andy@anigma.win.net Received: (from nobody@localhost) by ns2.win.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id HAA04540 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 07:31:53 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 07:31:53 -0400 Message-Id: <199607051131.HAA04540@ns2.win.net> Received: from dial-13.win.net(204.215.209.113) by ns2.win.net via smap (V1.3) id sma004503; Fri Jul 5 07:31:40 1996 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Find Free BSD usr groups in my area X-Mailer: Multilingual Mosaic/1.0c Win32 Accent/0025 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear Sir Am not sure if there is any but would suspect so, am looking for user group meetings and seminar in my area. I am located 35 miles east of Los Angeles California. Where do I find this information and can you transfer a bin to my e-mail add. Thank You Mr. Andrew Micheals andy@anigma.win.net From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 05:26:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA12526 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 05:26:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emout07.mail.aol.com (emout07.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA12518 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 05:26:46 -0700 (PDT) From: MichaelGoe@aol.com Received: by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA01363 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 08:26:12 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 08:26:12 -0400 Message-ID: <960705082611_149338277@emout07.mail.aol.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Need help with PAS 16 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I cannot get FreeBSD 2.1 to recognize my sound card. I have these in the config.sys controller snd0 device pas0 at isa? port 0x388 irq 10 confilicts drq 6 vector pasintr device sb0 at isa? prot 0x220 irq 5 conflicts drq 1 vectro sbintr devise opl0 at isa? port 0x388 conflicts options EXCLUDE_SBPRO options "SBC_IRQ=5" I added the conflicts foor the pas0 becuase I have a Mitsumi CD-rom on IRQ 10. As a mounted drive the cd-rom works fine. During boot-up, it does recognize my sound card, however; using cdplayer it tells me that the device is not configured, and with xcd it I get a broken pipe error. I''ve spent days on this and any and all help would be appreciated. Michael G. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 05:27:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA12557 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 05:27:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emout18.mail.aol.com (emout18.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA12551 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 05:26:58 -0700 (PDT) From: MichaelGoe@aol.com Received: by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA28585 for install@freebsd.org; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 08:25:59 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 08:25:59 -0400 Message-ID: <960705082558_149338318@emout18.mail.aol.com> To: install@freebsd.org Subject: help with PAS16 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I cannot get FreeBSD 2.1 to recognize my sound card. I have these in the config.sys controller snd0 device pas0 at isa? port 0x388 irq 10 confilicts drq 6 vector pasintr device sb0 at isa? prot 0x220 irq 5 conflicts drq 1 vectro sbintr devise opl0 at isa? port 0x388 conflicts options EXCLUDE_SBPRO options "SBC_IRQ=5" I added the conflicts foor the pas0 becuase I have a Mitsumi CD-rom on IRQ 10. As a mounted drive the cd-rom works fine. During boot-up, it does recognize my sound card, however; using cdplayer it tells me that the device is not configured, and with xcd it I get a broken pipe error. I''ve spent days on this and any and all help would be appreciated. Michael G. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 05:27:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA12602 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 05:27:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from csd.cs.technion.ac.il (csd.cs.technion.ac.il [132.68.32.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA12589 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 05:27:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nadav@localhost) by csd.cs.technion.ac.il (8.6.11/8.6.10) id PAA22412; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:26:57 +0300 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:26:56 +0300 (IDT) From: Nadav Eiron X-Sender: nadav@csd To: Juan Savioli cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Win 95 +FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <96Jul5.074629gmt.39681@gateway.dhi.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! What worked for me is: Make an installation disk (using RAWRITE) from a Win95 command prompt, and then boot that floppy to do the installation. Nadav On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, Juan Savioli wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a PC with Windows 95 and I want to install FreeBSD. > I checked in the FAQ, and they say I install Windows 95 > first and then FreeBSD. But what does it mean? I have to > go to the DOS prompt and install it as if I were in DOS, > or in another way. > > Thanks > > Juan > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Juan Savioli > > International Research Centre for Computational Hydrodynamics (ICCH) > Danish Hydraulic Institute (DHI) > > Agern Alle 5 Tel:+45 45 76 95 55 > DK 2970 Horsholm Fax:+45 42 86 00 68 > Denmark Email: jcs@dhi.dk > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 05:33:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA12960 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 05:33:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freenet.hamilton.on.ca (main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.65]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA12955 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 05:33:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.66]) by freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA05035; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 08:33:36 -0400 Received: (ac199@localhost) by james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA13846; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 08:35:12 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 08:35:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek To: Annelise Anderson cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: When will Pine 3.94 be ported? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Annelise Anderson wrote: > It's been ported; it's at ftp.freebsd.org in FreeBSD/../../incoming. > People who have tried to build it without the port have had trouble. > My only problem with it is that it doesn't queue the outgoing mail. Why don't you just let sendmail do the queuing? -- Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! tIM...HOEk From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 05:39:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA13372 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 05:39:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from windsurf.ops.aol.com (windsurf.ops.aol.com [152.163.61.79]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA13365 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 05:39:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [152.163.66.47] by windsurf.ops.aol.com with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA07030; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 08:38:40 -0400 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960705124107.0067e474@mailhost.infi.net> X-Sender: ron@mailhost.infi.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 08:41:07 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ron Steele Subject: SysAdmin Tools - ideas wanted Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk A recent post inquiring about system admin tools had prompted me to take up the challange. I am hoping to make some contribution back to the group that has given so much to me. Anyway, I am looking for ideas. I am currently working on a tcl/tk password tool. Based on the questions I see posted, I think the next pieces should probably be ppp configuration and printer setup and network configuration. I am afraid the kernel config is down the road a bit. If anyone has other ideas about priority, or features they would love to see, (or absolutely don't want) lets hear about them. I hope to make this thing both usable by the novice, and useful to the expierenced and busy sysadmin. I put myself somewhere in the middle of these too groups in experience, but closer to novice. Ron Steele From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 05:47:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA13916 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 05:47:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cwbone.bsi.com.br (cwbone.bsi.com.br [200.250.250.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA13911 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 05:47:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jalves@localhost) by cwbone.bsi.com.br (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA01981; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 09:45:42 GMT Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 09:45:41 +0000 () From: Joao Alves Junior To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Strange reboots!!!! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello for all, I have a machine whith FreeBSD 2.1 and a serial multiport accepting calls. Since last weekend this machine is rebooting automatically. I give the commands "top", "iostat", "vmstat", "netstat" and everything looks well. Could anyone help me please ??? Thanks Joao Alves Junior From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 06:47:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA17222 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 06:47:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de [132.180.20.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA17213 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 06:47:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (8.7.5/8.6.12) id PAA02866; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:39:24 GMT From: Werner Griessl Message-Id: <199607051539.PAA02866@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de> Subject: Re: SysAdmin Tools - ideas wanted To: ron@infi.net (Ron Steele) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:39:23 +0000 () Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19960705124107.0067e474@mailhost.infi.net> from Ron Steele at "Jul 5, 96 08:41:07 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > A recent post inquiring about system admin tools had prompted me to > take up the challange. I am hoping to make some contribution back > to the group that has given so much to me. > > Anyway, I am looking for ideas. I am currently working on a tcl/tk > password tool. Based on the questions I see posted, I think the > next pieces should probably be ppp configuration and printer setup and > network configuration. I am afraid the kernel config is down the > road a bit. > > If anyone has other ideas about priority, or features they would > love to see, (or absolutely don't want) lets hear about them. I hope > to make this thing both usable by the novice, and useful to the > expierenced and busy sysadmin. I put myself somewhere in the middle > of these too groups in experience, but closer to novice. > > Ron Steele > > > > Very good idea Ron ! Maybe you can give the new xforms-0.4 a try for this instead tcl/tk . Looks good for me for such a thing . Werner From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 07:22:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA19199 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 07:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from suw3svr01.hisd.harris.com (suw3svr01.hisd.harris.com [158.147.19.67]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA19191 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 07:22:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from suw2k.hisd.harris.com by suw3svr01.hisd.harris.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA01842; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 10:21:26 -0400 Received: by suw2k.hisd.harris.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25325; Fri, 5 Jul 96 10:18:49 EDT Date: Fri, 5 Jul 96 10:18:49 EDT From: jleppek@suw2k.hisd.harris.com (James Leppek) Message-Id: <9607051418.AA25325@suw2k.hisd.harris.com> To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: Hp4020i Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have just gotten a 4020i and would like to make some freebsd CD's. I do not have enough diskspace to create an iso image so is it possible to go from disk directly to the CD thru team? This worked in win95 ( I even did a 1x write from a 6x IDE cd to the 4020i, 2x did not work). On boot up it seems the 4020i won't negotiate sync is this normal? This is with a 2940 that also has a quantum fireball 1280 on it. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 07:22:32 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA19221 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 07:22:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from badboy.wisetech.com (badboy.wisetech.com [205.231.232.76]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA19209 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 07:22:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from badboy.wisetech.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by badboy.wisetech.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA04088; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 10:08:46 -0400 Message-ID: <31DD21EC.41C67EA6@wisetech.com> Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 10:08:44 -0400 From: Rick Weldon Organization: Weldon Internet SEcurity Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jgibbs@ingham.k12.mi.us CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux and FreeBSD References: <31DC8ABE.46E6@ingham.k12.mi.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk John, You can find just about anything you want to know about FreeBSD at their web site: http://www.freebsd.org John Gibbs wrote: > > How do Linux and FreeBSD differ? Since they both emulate UNIX, how exactly are > they different? FreeBSD can run X-Windows, correct? One last question.....how > many megs of hard disk does a typical installation of FreeBSD use? Thank You. Rick From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 07:24:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA19365 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 07:24:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bureau-de-poste.utcc.utoronto.ca (bureau-de-poste.utcc.utoronto.ca [128.100.132.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA19356 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 07:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atka.feut.utoronto.ca ([142.150.33.89]) by bureau-de-poste.utcc.utoronto.ca with SMTP id <801089(3)>; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 10:24:37 -0400 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960705142437.00af0220@mailbox1.utcc.utoronto.ca> X-Sender: martin.loeffler@mailbox1.utcc.utoronto.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 10:24:37 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Martin Loeffler Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Pardon my ignorance, but can someone clue me in on how to install the crypt libraries for FreeBSD v2.1 so that I can compile qpopper v2.2? Thanks very much, M. -- "Let x=x" Martin Loeffler, Curator of Computing Technology TEL Centre, Faculty of Education, University of Toronto martin.loeffler@utoronto.cao.ca From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 07:25:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA19395 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 07:25:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de [132.180.20.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA19362 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 07:24:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (8.7.5/8.6.12) id QAA03345; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 16:22:19 GMT From: Werner Griessl Message-Id: <199607051622.QAA03345@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de> Subject: Re: wu-ftpd compress... To: dgy@rtd.com (Don Yuniskis) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 16:22:19 +0000 () Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607051410.HAA20523@seagull.rtd.com> from Don Yuniskis at "Jul 5, 96 07:10:22 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > I think you'll find compress is NOT built static (at least it wasn't > > > in 2.1R). You can use gzip (I believe) to give you compress's > > > behaviour, though... > > > > That's correct ! But you can make it static by hand with the -static switch > > to cc > > "cc -static -o compress objlist" > > I did it so. > > Yes. I also rebuilt compress as a static binary. I was merely pointing > this out as you (I believe) were having some problems getting compress > to work under ftp? > > --don > Hi Don, Still have problems with compress (.Z and tar.Z) ! Can you send me your /local/etc/ftp*-files or made them available for me via ftp ? Werner P.S.: Next try: Is anybody out there running the newest stable and have compress working with wu-ftp ? From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 07:26:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA19461 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 07:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from r2d2.fdn.org (r2d2.fdn.org [193.55.4.56]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA19456 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 07:26:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ninja.fdn.fr (uucp@localhost) by r2d2.fdn.org (8.7.1/8.6.9) with UUCP id QAA07406 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 16:26:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ninja by ninja.fdn.fr (NX5.67f2/NeGeN_1.1_(based_on_WZV_1.57)) id AA00335; Fri, 5 Jul 96 16:04:31 +0200 Message-Id: <9607051404.AA00335@ninja.fdn.fr> Received: by ninja.ninja.fdn.fr (NX5.67f2/NX3.0X) id AA00326; Fri, 5 Jul 96 16:04:30 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2.RR) From: lai-cheong jean pierre Date: Fri, 5 Jul 96 16:04:30 +0200 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: How to.. Reply-To: jp@ninja.fdn.fr Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am living in France, how can I subcribe to FreeBSD to benefit a = $24.95 CD ? Here my address: Mr Lai-Cheong Jean-pierre 330 rue Lecourbe. 75015 Paris, France. Thanks for your time, Ciao!= From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 07:29:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA19601 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 07:29:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de [132.180.20.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA19474 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 07:27:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (8.7.5/8.6.12) id QAA03397; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 16:25:22 GMT From: Werner Griessl Message-Id: <199607051625.QAA03397@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de> Subject: Re: SysAdmin Tools - ideas wanted To: croot@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (Werner Griessl) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 16:25:22 +0000 () Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607051539.PAA02866@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de> from Werner Griessl at "Jul 5, 96 03:39:23 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > A recent post inquiring about system admin tools had prompted me to > > take up the challange. I am hoping to make some contribution back > > to the group that has given so much to me. > > > > Anyway, I am looking for ideas. I am currently working on a tcl/tk > > password tool. Based on the questions I see posted, I think the > > next pieces should probably be ppp configuration and printer setup and > > network configuration. I am afraid the kernel config is down the > > road a bit. > > > > If anyone has other ideas about priority, or features they would > > love to see, (or absolutely don't want) lets hear about them. I hope > > to make this thing both usable by the novice, and useful to the > > expierenced and busy sysadmin. I put myself somewhere in the middle > > of these too groups in experience, but closer to novice. > > > > Ron Steele > > > > > > > > > > Very good idea Ron ! > Maybe you can give the new xforms-0.4 a try for this instead tcl/tk . Sorry ! I meant xforms-0.81/fdesign (xfmail-0.4 is based on this) . > Looks good for me for such a thing . > > Werner > > Werner From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 07:30:22 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA19684 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 07:30:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from virginia.edu (mars.itc.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA19677 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 07:30:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from archive.cs.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa19422; 5 Jul 96 10:30 EDT Received: from viper.cs.Virginia.EDU (viper-fo.cs.Virginia.EDU [128.143.136.16]) by archive.cs.Virginia.EDU (8.7.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA09027 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 10:30:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by viper.cs.Virginia.EDU (5.x/SMI-2.0) id AA16345; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 16:52:26 -0400 Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 16:52:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Mark Douglas Corner To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Mach32 and 16 bit color Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am having trouble getting 16 bit depth with my Mach32 2meg Vram card. I have a CTX 1785Gme monitor. If I commment out the lines for 8 bit color, X will not start and says "unsupported color depth" I know my card does 16 bit color under Winblowz so why won't X do it? Here is my XF86Config. Thanks for any help you can give Plese mail responses to mdc4e@virginia.edu. (I am not on the mailing list) Thank you in advance. # File generated by xf86config. # # Copyright (c) 1994 by The XFree86 Project, Inc. # # Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a # copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), # to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation # the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, # and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the # Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: # # The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in # all copies or substantial portions of the Software. # # THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR # IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, # FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL # THE XFREE86 PROJECT BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, # WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF # OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE # SOFTWARE. # # Except as contained in this notice, the name of the XFree86 Project shall # not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or other # dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from the # XFree86 Project. # # ********************************************************************** # Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of # this file. # ********************************************************************** # ********************************************************************** # Files section. This allows default font and rgb paths to be set # ********************************************************************** Section "Files" # The location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the # file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally # no need to change the default. RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together), # as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath # command (or a combination of both methods) # # If you don't have a floating point coprocessor and emacs, Mosaic or other # programs take long to start up, try moving the Type1 and Speedo directory # to the end of this list (or comment them out). # FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Server flags section. # ********************************************************************** Section "ServerFlags" # Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is # received. This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may # provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging # NoTrapSignals # Uncomment this to disable the server abort sequence # This allows clients to receive this key event. # DontZap # Uncomment this to disable the / mode switching # sequences. This allows clients to receive these key events. # DontZoom EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Input devices # ********************************************************************** # ********************************************************************** # Keyboard section # ********************************************************************** Section "Keyboard" Protocol "Standard" # when using XQUEUE, comment out the above line, and uncomment the # following line # Protocol "Xqueue" AutoRepeat 500 5 # Let the server do the NumLock processing. This should only be required # when using pre-R6 clients # ServerNumLock # Specifiy which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1)) # Xleds 1 2 3 # To set the LeftAlt to Meta, RightAlt key to ModeShift, # RightCtl key to Compose, and ScrollLock key to ModeLock: # LeftAlt Meta # RightAlt ModeShift # RightCtl Compose # ScrollLock ModeLock EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Pointer section # ********************************************************************** Section "Pointer" Protocol "Microsoft" Device "/dev/mouse" # When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment # the following line. # Protocol "Xqueue" # Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice # BaudRate 9600 # SampleRate 150 # Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice # Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms) Emulate3Buttons Emulate3Timeout 50 # ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice # ChordMiddle EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Monitor section # ********************************************************************** # Any number of monitor sections may be present Section "Monitor" Identifier "Experimental" VendorName "CTX" ModelName "1785GMe" # HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified. # HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. HorizSync 31.5 - 57.0 # HorizSync 30-64 # multisync # HorizSync 31.5, 35.2 # multiple fixed sync frequencies # HorizSync 15-25, 30-50 # multiple ranges of sync frequencies # VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified. # VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. VertRefresh 50-100 # Modes can be specified in two formats. A compact one-line format, or # a multi-line format. # These two are equivalent # ModeLine "1024x768i" 45 1024 1048 1208 1264 768 776 784 817 Interlace # Mode "1024x768i" # DotClock 45 # HTimings 1024 1048 1208 1264 # VTimings 768 776 784 817 # Flags "Interlace" # EndMode # This is a set of standard mode timings. Modes that are out of monitor spec # are automatically deleted by the server (provided the HorizSync and # VertRefresh lines are correct), so there's no immediate need to # delete mode timings (unless particular mode timings don't work on your # monitor). With these modes, the best standard mode that your monitor # and video card can support for a given resolution is automatically # used. # 640x400 @ 70 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync Modeline "640x400" 25.175 640 664 760 800 400 409 411 450 # 640x480 @ 60 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync Modeline "640x480" 25.175 640 664 760 800 480 491 493 525 # 800x600 @ 56 Hz, 35.15 kHz hsync ModeLine "800x600" 36 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 # 1024x768 @ 87 Hz interlaced, 35.5 kHz hsync #Modeline "1024x768" 44.9 1024 1048 1208 1264 768 776 784 817 Interlace # 640x480 @ 72 Hz, 36.5 kHz hsync Modeline "640x480" 31.5 640 680 720 864 480 488 491 521 # 800x600 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync Modeline "800x600" 40 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync # 800x600 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync Modeline "800x600" 50 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync # 1024x768 @ 60 Hz, 48.4 kHz hsync Modeline "1024x768" 65 1024 1032 1176 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync # 1024x768 @ 70 Hz, 56.5 kHz hsync Modeline "1024x768" 75 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync # 1280x1024 @ 87 Hz interlaced, 51 kHz hsync #Modeline "1280x1024" 80 1280 1296 1512 1568 1024 1025 1037 1165 Interlace # 1024x768 @ 76 Hz, 62.5 kHz hsync Modeline "1024x768" 85 1024 1032 1152 1360 768 784 787 823 # 1280x1024 @ 61 Hz, 64.2 kHz hsync Modeline "1280x1024" 110 1280 1328 1512 1712 1024 1025 1028 1054 # 1280x1024 @ 74 Hz, 78.85 kHz hsync Modeline "1280x1024" 135 1280 1312 1456 1712 1024 1027 1030 1064 # 1280x1024 @ 76 Hz, 81.13 kHz hsync Modeline "1280x1024" 135 1280 1312 1416 1664 1024 1027 1030 1064 EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Graphics device section # ********************************************************************** # Any number of graphics device sections may be present # Standard VGA Device: Section "Device" Identifier "Generic VGA" VendorName "Unknown" BoardName "Unknown" Chipset "generic" # VideoRam 256 # Clocks 25.2 28.3 EndSection # Sample Device for accelerated server: # Section "Device" # Identifier "Actix GE32+ 2MB" # VendorName "Actix" # BoardName "GE32+" # Ramdac "ATT20C490" # Dacspeed 110 # Option "dac_8_bit" # Clocks 25.0 28.0 40.0 0.0 50.0 77.0 36.0 45.0 # Clocks 130.0 120.0 80.0 31.0 110.0 65.0 75.0 94.0 # EndSection # Device configured by xf86config: Section "Device" Identifier "Experimental" VendorName "ATI" BoardName "Ultra Pro" VideoRam 2048 #Probable clocks: #Clocks 100 126 92 36 51 57 0 44 135 32 110 80 39 #Clocks 45 75 65 50 63 46 18 25 28 0 22 67 16 55 40 19 23 37 33 #Option "dac_8_bit" # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate Clocks 100.32 126.11 92.35 36.10 50.45 56.72 0.00 44.90 Clocks 135.12 32.00 109.87 80.01 39.92 44.90 75.06 64.96 Clocks 50.16 63.05 46.17 18.05 25.23 28.36 0.00 22.45 Clocks 67.56 16.00 54.94 40.01 19.96 22.45 37.53 32.48 EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Screen sections # ********************************************************************** # The Colour SVGA server Section "Screen" Driver "svga" Device "Generic VGA" #Device "Experimental" Monitor "Experimental" Subsection "Display" Depth 8 #Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 320 200 #Virtual 1280 1024 EndSubsection EndSection # The 16-color VGA server Section "Screen" Driver "vga16" Device "Generic VGA" Monitor "Experimental" Subsection "Display" Modes "640x480" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 800 600 EndSubsection EndSection # The Mono server Section "Screen" Driver "vga2" Device "Generic VGA" Monitor "Experimental" Subsection "Display" Modes "640x480" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 800 600 EndSubsection EndSection # The accelerated servers (S3, Mach32, Mach8, 8514, P9000, AGX, W32, Mach64) Section "Screen" Driver "accel" Device "Experimental" Monitor "Experimental" Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" "1280x1024" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 1024 768 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 1024 768 EndSubsection # Subsection "Display" # Depth 32 # Modes "640x480" "800x600" # ViewPort 0 0 # Virtual 800 600 # EndSubsection EndSection ---- Mark Douglas Corner corner@virginia.edu http://watt.seas.virginia.edu/~mdc4e/ Echols GA Suite (804)243-0982 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 07:52:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA21089 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 07:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po1.glue.umd.edu (po1.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA21084 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 07:52:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from channel.eng.umd.edu (channel.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.186]) by po1.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA24099; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 10:52:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by channel.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA12916; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 10:52:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 10:52:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@channel.eng.umd.edu To: Haytham Algyndy cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: magic port compilation problems In-Reply-To: <199607050832.SAA01095@s4.elec.uq.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, Haytham Algyndy wrote: > Hi > > Chuck, The port doesn't compile on my machine. > Here's what I get > > haytham:/usr/ports/cad/magic make > >> No checksum recorded for magic-6.4.4.tgz > Checksums OK for files that have them. > ===> Extracting for magic-6.4.4 > ===> magic-6.4.4 depends on executable: gmake - found > ===> Patching for magic-6.4.4 > ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for magic-6.4.4 > patch: **** can't cd to /usr/ports/cad/magic/work/magic-6.4.4: No such file or directory > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > The Makefile originally was looking for a tar.Z prefix, > but I changed it to tgz, since this is the case for the tarball > available. I think the tarball you have isn't the magic source tarball, which is what the port wants. I'd suggest refetching the tarball, and putting the Makefile back the way it was. The tarball SHOULD be named as it was. At a guess, you have the package tarball there, an entirely different thing. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 08:21:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA22724 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 08:21:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix1.ism.com.br (root@unix1.ism.com.br [200.255.211.35]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA22707 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 08:20:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clpc1.compuland.com.br (clpc1.compuland.com.br [200.255.96.22]) by unix1.ism.com.br (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA05626 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 12:20:18 -0300 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 12:20:18 -0300 Message-Id: <199607051520.MAA05626@unix1.ism.com.br> X-Sender: compland@ism.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: compland@ism.com.br (Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica) Subject: Sendmail Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi: It's not actually a FreeBSD question, but anyway: I just installed Sendmail 8.7.5 in a FreeBSD box., very easy to install. It's working, but when I give: telnet server 25 I get in return ... ESMTP Sendmail 8.7.5/8.6.12 ... ^^^^^^ why this ? Anything related do sendmail.cf ? Thanks ! Helio. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 08:44:42 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA24490 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 08:44:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wlsmail (wlsmail.wls.lib.ny.us [199.97.121.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA24471 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 08:44:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wlsmail (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA29501; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:42:09 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:42:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Jack Ham To: questions Subject: THANK YOU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello All, I started using freebsd at home several months ago and plan on using it on a new server at work in the near future. If the way my 486 at home runs under freebsd is any indication, the Solaris box we have now is going to look like one fat hog. I just wanted to express my appreciation to everyone participating in the freebsd project for providing a great, stable os. So far all of my questions have been answered by the lists before I can ask them. Can't ask for better support than that. 8-) ============================================================= Jack Ham jham@wls.lib.ny.us Systems Support Librarian fax (914) 347-3617 Westchester Library System phone (914) 592-8214 x231 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 08:46:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA24824 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 08:46:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ctgusa.com (mail.ctgusa.com [205.177.99.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA24805 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 08:46:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from john-nt40 (205.177.99.12) by ctgusa.com with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.0); Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:49:42 +0000 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960705154424.008cda38@ctgusa.com> X-Sender: rcutter@ctgusa.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 11:44:24 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Ryan Cutter Subject: Changing prompt Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, How can I change my prompt in FreeBSD to reflect the current directory I'm in? Thanks in advance, Ryan Cutter rcutter@ctgusa.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 09:17:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA29924 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 09:17:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from okeefe.bestweb.net (root@bestweb.dialup.cloud9.net [168.100.205.178]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA29919 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 09:17:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jordyn.dialup.cloud9.net.could9.net (degas.bestweb.net [192.168.1.240]) by okeefe.bestweb.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA11685; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 12:21:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960705161708.00697684@pop.bestweb.net> X-Sender: jordyn@pop.bestweb.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 12:17:08 -0400 To: compland@ism.com.br (Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica), questions@freebsd.org From: "Jordyn A. Buchanan" Subject: Re: Sendmail Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica wrote: > I just installed Sendmail 8.7.5 in a FreeBSD box., very easy to install. >It's working, but when I give: > > telnet server 25 > >I get in return > > ... ESMTP Sendmail 8.7.5/8.6.12 ... > ^^^^^^ why this ? Anything related do sendmail.cf ? Yes. You haven't updated your sendmail.cf file. The second version number typically indicates the version of sendmail that the sendmail.cf file was built for. That's not the most accurate way of stating it, but if you use the macros to create a new sendmail.cf file you'll correct the disparity. Jordyn ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jordyn A. Buchanan jordyn@bestweb.net BestWeb Corporation +1 914 271 4500 Senior Systems Administrator From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 09:22:57 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA00785 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 09:22:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.webquest.com (mailhost.webquest.com [203.168.0.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA00780 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 09:22:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from expert.webquest.com (rdial118.webquest.com [203.168.0.77]) by mailhost.webquest.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA18882 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 00:22:26 +0800 Message-ID: <31DD42CD.7215@webscape.net> Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 00:29:02 +0800 From: "Malvin C." Organization: WebScape Philippines Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: mailbox Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I like to inquire if it is possible to setup a single login account while at the same time having multiple mailboxes each having their own passwd. Thanks From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 09:44:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA03523 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 09:44:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fyeung5.netific.com (netific.vip.best.com [205.149.182.145]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA03504 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 09:44:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fyeung@localhost) by fyeung5.netific.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id JAA13563 for questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 09:49:55 GMT From: francis yeung Message-Id: <199607050949.JAA13563@fyeung5.netific.com> Subject: Job opportunities To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 09:49:54 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greeting, I am posting this for a friend of mine who is in ISP software business. He is looking for people with the following experience: o FreeBSD/NetBSD development background e.g. device drivers, networking code, security, Internet related software e.g. proxy, DNS, Sendmail, database (e.g. ODBC) etc. o FreeBSD/NetBSD system administration background with experience in Perl, various Shells programming experience, Web development experience will be helpful. College students are welcome. No working experience is also acceptable. Location: Sunnyvalle, California - Silicon Valley 50 miles south of San Francisco, 5 miles from San Jose. Please respond emails to me directly so that I can fax them to him promptly (in Japan). Francis From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 09:47:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA04127 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 09:47:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA04118 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 09:47:33 -0700 (PDT) From: af@biomath.jussieu.fr Received: from mekong.biomath.jussieu.fr (mekong.biomath.jussieu.fr [134.157.72.87]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.7.5/jtpda-5.2) with SMTP id SAA10789 ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 18:47:12 +0200 (METDST) Received: from garfield.biomath.jussieu.fr (garfield) by mekong.biomath.jussieu.fr (5.67b/jn930126+af960507(mailhost)) at Fri, 5 Jul 1996 18:46:42 +0100 Received: from (af@localhost) by garfield.biomath.jussieu.fr (8.7.5/jtpda-5.2) id SAA03663 ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 18:46:41 +0100 (GMT-1) Message-Id: <199607051746.SAA03663@garfield.biomath.jussieu.fr> Subject: Re: Changing prompt To: rcutter@ctgusa.com (Ryan Cutter) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 18:46:40 +0100 (GMT-1) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19960705154424.008cda38@ctgusa.com> from "Ryan Cutter" at Jul 5, 96 11:44:24 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ryan Cutter wrote / a ecrit: > > Hi, > > How can I change my prompt in FreeBSD to reflect the current > directory I'm in? > If you're using tcsh (which I highly recommend), I suggest: set prompt="%m:%~%# " While we're at it, I have the following in my .cshrc which I find useful when running xterms: if ($?tcsh) then if ("$term" == "xterm") then set prompt="%{^[]0;%n@%m (%l - $$) %/^G%}%# " else set prompt="%m:%~%# " endif endif It dynamically sets my xterm banner to something like : af@garfield (/dev/ttyp6 - 3572) /home/u/af/gnu See "man tcsh" for all the other goodies tcsh has. _Alain_ -- Alain FAUCONNET Ingenieur systeme - System Manager AP-HP/SIM Public Health 91 bld de l'Hopital 75013 PARIS FRANCE Medical Computing Research Labs Mail: af@biomath.jussieu.fr Tel: (+33) 1-40-77-96-19 Fax: (+33) 1-45-86-80-68 I've RTFMed. It says: "Refer to your system administrator" But... I *am* the system administrator :-] From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 10:07:14 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA07432 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 10:07:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br (root@cisigw.coppe.ufrj.br [146.164.2.31]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA07421 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 10:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA07571; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 14:06:55 -0300 (EST) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199607051706.OAA07571@mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: Sendmail To: compland@ism.com.br (Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 14:06:54 -0300 (EST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607051520.MAA05626@unix1.ism.com.br> from "Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica" at "Jul 5, 96 12:20:18 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL14 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk #define quoting(Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica) // Hi: // // It's not actually a FreeBSD question, but anyway: // // I just installed Sendmail 8.7.5 in a FreeBSD box., very easy to install. // It's working, but when I give: // // telnet server 25 // // I get in return // // ... ESMTP Sendmail 8.7.5/8.6.12 ... // ^^^^^^ why this ? Anything related do sendmail.cf ? Yes. It's the sendmail.cf version used in your system. Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 ( Job ) jonny@cisi.coppe.ufrj.br Network Manager UFRJ/COPPE/CISI Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 10:10:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA08121 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 10:10:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.225.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA08098 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 10:10:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA06815; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 19:06:27 +0200 Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id TAA15727; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 19:18:41 +0200 From: "Christoph P. Kukulies" Message-Id: <199607051718.TAA15727@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: wu-ftpd compress... To: croot@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de (Werner Griessl) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 19:18:40 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: dgy@rtd.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199607051622.QAA03345@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de> from Werner Griessl at "Jul 5, 96 04:22:19 pm" Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL16 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > I think you'll find compress is NOT built static (at least it wasn't > > > > in 2.1R). You can use gzip (I believe) to give you compress's > > > > behaviour, though... > > > > > > That's correct ! But you can make it static by hand with the -static switch > > > to cc > > > "cc -static -o compress objlist" > > > I did it so. > > > > Yes. I also rebuilt compress as a static binary. I was merely pointing > > this out as you (I believe) were having some problems getting compress > > to work under ftp? > > > > --don > > > > Hi Don, > > Still have problems with compress (.Z and tar.Z) ! > Can you send me your /local/etc/ftp*-files or made them available for me > via ftp ? I tried that too (static binary). It looks like compress is getting executed but the file I get (get README.Z for example) is always zero size. > > Werner > > P.S.: Next try: Is anybody out there running the newest stable and have > compress working with wu-ftp ? > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 10:24:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA11097 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 10:24:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA11092 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 10:24:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.Stanford.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA08244; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 10:08:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 10:08:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: Tim Vanderhoek cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: When will Pine 3.94 be ported? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, Tim Vanderhoek wrote: > On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Annelise Anderson wrote: > > > It's been ported; it's at ftp.freebsd.org in FreeBSD/../../incoming. > > People who have tried to build it without the port have had trouble. > > My only problem with it is that it doesn't queue the outgoing mail. > > Why don't you just let sendmail do the queuing? > Sendmail is doing the queuing, and in pine 3.91 this worked fine with smtp-server= i.e., blank. In 3.94 this has to be set to localhost for sendmail's queuing to work. Annelise From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 10:24:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA11176 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 10:24:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riverside.mr.net (root@Riverside.MR.Net [137.192.2.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA11167 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 10:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from galileo.mr.net by riverside.mr.net (8.7.5/SMI-4.1.R931202) id MAA22079; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 12:24:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from black@localhost) by galileo.mr.net (8.7.2/8.7.2) id MAA01166; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 12:24:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Ben Black Message-Id: <199607051724.MAA01166@galileo.mr.net> Subject: Re: Sendmail To: compland@ism.com.br (Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 12:24:24 -0500 (CDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199607051520.MAA05626@unix1.ism.com.br> from "Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica" at Jul 5, 96 12:20:18 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME7a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The second version number is the version of sendmail used to generate the cf file. You can generate a new one using the m4 macros in the 8.7.5 distribution or you can change the line DZ8.6.12 to DZ8.7.5 in the cf. The cf version doesn't make much of a difference in this case. Ben black@mr.net > > Hi: > > It's not actually a FreeBSD question, but anyway: > > I just installed Sendmail 8.7.5 in a FreeBSD box., very easy to install. > It's working, but when I give: > > telnet server 25 > > I get in return > > ... ESMTP Sendmail 8.7.5/8.6.12 ... > ^^^^^^ why this ? Anything related do sendmail.cf ? > > Thanks ! > Helio. > > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 10:25:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA11297 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 10:25:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA11284 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 10:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-20.ime.net [206.231.148.149]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA29986 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:25:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31DD5032.AF8@ime.net> Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 13:26:10 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Help! Permission denied for logins. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ok what I fudgeup? The only user that can login is root. Everybody else gets: csh: Permission denied: Permission denied csh: Trying to start from "/home/" csh: Trying to start from "/" % I belive the only thing I did that should affect the login was run: adduser, And added a user. Went on about my stuff needed to re-boot so I did, Now nobody can login. But before I re-booted it worked, Even the newly added user. Some how I get the feeling this has to do with the link from /home/ --> /usr/home/ On the same note: I have / on wd0 and /usr on wd1 The link shows: home -> /usr/home What device is the home dirs actually on, wd1? -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 10:32:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA12117 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 10:32:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA12108 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 10:32:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-20.ime.net [206.231.148.149]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA00511; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:31:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31DD51BE.34C4@ime.net> Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 13:32:46 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mathias_Päzolt CC: "'questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Installation-Problems References: <01BB6A67.F5F88020@escpc01.esc.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Mathias_Päzolt wrote: > > Hi, > I have a big problem with installaion freebsd. Every time and every > computer i get a message from the intallation-program after the step > Label, that the progra > Please break your lines at no more then 75 characters. Thanks. Your problem, I _belive_ you are trying to (W)rite the label. Don't do this, Don't do ANY (W)rites in the Disk tools while being run from sysinstall. Fdisk or Label. Somebody please correct me if I am wrong. -- -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 11:11:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA18203 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:11:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA18197 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:11:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA11182; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:10:50 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:10:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Martin Loeffler cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19960705142437.00af0220@mailbox1.utcc.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, Martin Loeffler wrote: > Pardon my ignorance, but can someone clue me in on how to install the crypt > libraries for FreeBSD v2.1 so that I can compile qpopper v2.2? I'm assuming you need the DES libraries, and you didin't install them when you initially installed the system. Being that you're in Toronto, I think you'll have to get the international DES lbraries at ftp.internat.freebsd.org. (?) Then just 'cat des.* | tar xzf -' to expand them. Note that if you are on 2.1-R or lower, you'll hose your passwords. Is thait what you needed? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 11:15:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA18749 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:15:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA18735 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:15:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA11201; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:12:06 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:12:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: M C Wong cc: freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: [2.1R] same IP address assigned to ed0 and ppp0 ? In-Reply-To: <199607050058.AA072678307@relay.hp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, M C Wong wrote: > Correct me if I'm wrong: FreeBSD 2.1R supports same IP addresses > assigned onto different types of network interfaces, in particular a PPP > interface and an Ethernet interface. I don't think so. You can assign multiple addresses to a single interface, though. Why would you need to do something like that? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 11:22:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA19505 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA19496 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:22:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA11273; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:22:37 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:22:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: MichaelGoe@aol.com cc: install@freebsd.org Subject: Re: help with PAS16 In-Reply-To: <960705082558_149338318@emout18.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jul 1996 MichaelGoe@aol.com wrote: > I added the conflicts foor the pas0 becuase I have a Mitsumi CD-rom on IRQ > 10. As a mounted drive the cd-rom works fine. During boot-up, it does > recognize my sound card, however; using cdplayer it tells me that the device > is not configured, and with xcd it I get a broken pipe error. I think that the cd playing apps only work on SCSI CDROMs. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 11:27:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA20109 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from badboy.wisetech.com (badboy.wisetech.com [205.231.232.76]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA20094 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:27:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from badboy.wisetech.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by badboy.wisetech.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA05938; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 14:13:21 -0400 Message-ID: <31DD5B40.167EB0E7@wisetech.com> Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 14:13:20 -0400 From: Rick Weldon Organization: Weldon Internet SEcurity Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ryan Cutter CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Changing prompt References: <1.5.4.32.19960705154424.008cda38@ctgusa.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ryan Cutter wrote: > > Hi, > > How can I change my prompt in FreeBSD to reflect the current > directory I'm in? > > Thanks in advance, > > Ryan Cutter > rcutter@ctgusa.com I use this for bash: export PS1="\u@\h \w \n(\!)$ " It looks like this: rick@badboy /usr/local/bin (616)$ _ Rick From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 11:37:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA21896 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:37:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bureau-de-poste.utcc.utoronto.ca (bureau-de-poste.utcc.utoronto.ca [128.100.132.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA21871 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:37:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atka.feut.utoronto.ca ([142.150.33.89]) by bureau-de-poste.utcc.utoronto.ca with SMTP id <801266(1)>; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 14:37:19 -0400 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960705183713.006d42b0@mailbox1.utcc.utoronto.ca> X-Sender: martin.loeffler@mailbox1.utcc.utoronto.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 14:37:13 -0400 To: Doug White From: Martin Loeffler Subject: Re: your mail Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 02:10 PM 7/5/96 -0400, Doug White wrote: >On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, Martin Loeffler wrote: > >> Pardon my ignorance, but can someone clue me in on how to install the crypt >> libraries for FreeBSD v2.1 so that I can compile qpopper v2.2? > >I'm assuming you need the DES libraries, and you didin't install them >when you initially installed the system. I picked up the des.aa file, and others in the directory with it. No, I didn't have the choice (or if I did, I missed it) to install it. >Being that you're in Toronto, I think you'll have to get the >international DES lbraries at ftp.internat.freebsd.org. (?) Then just >'cat des.* | tar xzf -' to expand them. Ok, will try. >Note that if you are on 2.1-R or lower, you'll hose your passwords. How can I tell? >Is thait what you needed? More or less, yes. Thanks! M. -- "Let x=x" Martin Loeffler, Curator of Computing Technology TEL Centre, Faculty of Education, University of Toronto martin.loeffler@utoronto.cao.ca From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 11:41:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA22471 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:41:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x1.boston.juno.com (x1.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.21]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA22465 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:41:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from fadorno@juno.com) by x1.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id OAA08273; Fri, 05 Jul 1996 14:40:58 EDT To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:39:45 PST Subject: Shell scripts for Netscape updates Message-ID: <19960705.113947.10358.0.fadorno@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.00 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1 From: fadorno@juno.com (Fred Adorno) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does any one have a nice shell script that will enable me to stay current with the latest betas from Netscape? From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 11:57:15 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA25492 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:57:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sam.networx.ie (dublin-ts13-66.indigo.ie [194.125.134.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25480 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:57:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mip1.networx.ie (mip1.networx.ie [194.9.12.1]) by sam.networx.ie (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA01844 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 19:51:52 GMT X-Organisation: I.T. NetworX Ltd X-Business: Network Consultancy and Training X-Address: 67 Merrion Square, Dublin 2, Ireland X-Voice: +353-1-676-8866 X-Fax: +353-1-676-8868 Received: from mike.networx.ie by mip1.networx.ie Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 19:49:54 BST From: Michael Ryan Reply-To: mike@NetworX.ie Subject: no rpc.statd and rpc.lockd To: FreeBSD Support Message-Id: Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I want to mount a FreeBSD 2.1 filesystem from a remote PC running Windows and an NFS client. It fails with the error message that there's no rcp.lockd daemon running. The same filesystem can be mounted from another, non-FreeBSD, Unix machine and the PC *can* mount filesystems from this non-FreeBSD box with no problems (it has rpc.statd and rpc.lockd). What am I missing on the FreeBSD box so the PC can successfully complete the mount? I've checked and there's no sign or reference to these two daemons. If they don't exist, how is file locking performed? Thanks, Mike --- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 11:57:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA25513 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sam.networx.ie (dublin-ts13-66.indigo.ie [194.125.134.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25491 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:57:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mip1.networx.ie (mip1.networx.ie [194.9.12.1]) by sam.networx.ie (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA01839 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 19:48:41 GMT X-Organisation: I.T. NetworX Ltd X-Business: Network Consultancy and Training X-Address: 67 Merrion Square, Dublin 2, Ireland X-Voice: +353-1-676-8866 X-Fax: +353-1-676-8868 Received: from mike.networx.ie by mip1.networx.ie Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 19:46:43 BST From: Michael Ryan Reply-To: mike@NetworX.ie Subject: SCSI timeout on HP 2GB DAT To: FreeBSD Support Message-Id: Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello all, I'm doing a backup to a HP SureStore 2000 2GB DAT drive attached to an Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI adapter on a FreeBSD 2.1 120MHz Pentium, from a remote machine on the network. A bare-bones listing of the script to perform the backup is as follows: find / -depth -print | cpio -o -H newc -C 65536 | gzip -c | dd obs=64k | rsh tapehost -l tape dd obs=64k of=/dev/rst0 The file ~tape/.rhosts on tapehost is okay. The backup runs fine, until around 92MB is transferred, then the following error messages appear on the console and the backup aborts. Anybody got any ideas what's wrong? Kernel error messages: st0(ahc0:3:0): NOT READY asc:4,1 st0(ahc0:3:0): Logical unit is in process of becoming ready ahc0: target 3, lun 0 (st0) timed out st0(ahc0:3:0): BUS DEVICE RESET message queued. ahc0: target 3, lun 0 (st0) timed out st0(ahc0:3:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:28,0 st0(ahc0:3:0): Not ready to ready transition, medium may have changed ahc0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset #1. 1 SCBs aborted st0(ahc0:3:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0 st0(ahc0:3:0): Power on, reset, or bus device reset occurred Error message from dd: dd: /dev/rst0: Input/output error Thanks for any help, Mike --- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 12:03:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA26548 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 12:03:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from internet.milkyway.com (milkyway.com [198.53.167.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA26533 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 12:03:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jupiter.milkyway.com (jupiter.milkyway.com [192.168.77.9]) by internet with ESMTP (DuhMail/3.0) id PAA02704; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:02:59 -0400 Received: from milkyway.com (metis.milkyway.com [192.168.77.21]) by jupiter.milkyway.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA12915 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 14:51:43 -0400 Received: from metis.milkyway.com by milkyway.com (8.6.12/BSDI-Client) id OAA22054; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 14:57:37 -0400 Message-Id: <199607051857.OAA22054@milkyway.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.4 10/10/95 X-Face: x7OynEM*dB$e.2'7pigelLk>5:Nu:%r*iV96{F2XIT.apbrc-vOFSi{yI$3=nJ-Qi)allj4 =)4cWlX@IQ1Dsmk}T4qX~{XI5Z01>PV^cYR'~cL]&ma<{rYg~Ao-:~:sM%z}^M65`;1TZ}Tze"4/=F ~o&8;"SKHwB?%"xpP/=pkhdZVP$rQQ{"{QT`#kcx7!\/y+crQa4^nLEms6_k4O*o#fo[WBs~~&.%jf |;W@E2K#{U~%vhvth^uDLWD` Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I managed to get the 2.1-960627-SNAP kernel (boot4) to boot on this system. If I add -c to the boot flags, and remove the PCMCIA floppy drive and insert my etherlink III card, I can recognize it, partition the hard disk, and attempt to install. Other systems on the network appear to be seeing the packets come from the notebook (I can tell this by doing "arp -d sinope" (the name of the notebook) on the DNS server and then trying the install. An arp entry will appear on the DNS server, with the right ethernet address.) It appears however, that I am not getting packets back. This suggests an IRQ problem... If I try to install from floppy, (leaving the floppy connected the whole time), I am informed that the machine does not have a floppy drive. On boot up, I see fdc0, but no fd0 found. Anyone with a working experience with such a beast? Please do not tell me buy a new notebook... I would *love* to.. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 12:16:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA28808 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 12:16:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA28793 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 12:16:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id UAA17224; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 20:10:40 +0100 (BST) To: tcg@ime.net cc: FreeBSD-Questions From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Help! Permission denied for logins. In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 05 Jul 1996 13:26:10 EDT." <31DD5032.AF8@ime.net> Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 20:10:38 +0100 Message-ID: <17222.836593838@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gary Chrysler wrote in message ID <31DD5032.AF8@ime.net>: > Ok what I fudgeup? At a guess: the permissions of `/' have been changed? They need to be rwxr-xr-x (i.e. 755). It's either `/' or the /usr/home directory I bet. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 12:17:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA28932 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 12:17:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA28908 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 12:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id UAA17235; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 20:14:00 +0100 (BST) To: Ron Steele cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: SysAdmin Tools - ideas wanted In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 05 Jul 1996 08:41:07 EDT." <1.5.4.32.19960705124107.0067e474@mailhost.infi.net> Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 20:14:00 +0100 Message-ID: <17233.836594040@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ron Steele wrote in message ID <1.5.4.32.19960705124107.0067e474@mailhost.infi.net>: > Anyway, I am looking for ideas. I am currently working on a tcl/tk > password tool. Based on the questions I see posted, I think the > next pieces should probably be ppp configuration and printer setup and > network configuration. I am afraid the kernel config is down the > road a bit. > If anyone has other ideas about priority, or features they would > love to see, (or absolutely don't want) lets hear about them. I hope > to make this thing both usable by the novice, and useful to the > expierenced and busy sysadmin. I put myself somewhere in the middle > of these too groups in experience, but closer to novice. Hrm. I have a bunch of mail sat in my mailbox on this subject. It's a very interesting subject to deal with properly. I think I can say now that you're heading down the wrong road. A tcl/tk front end, while nice, doesn't provide the facilities needed IMHO, unless you TOTALLY separate the tcl end out so that it can be run standalone from the command line, and in a batch operation mode (i.e. non-interactive). If you want to wait a few days, I can start up an e-mail dialogue with you on this ... I'm a bit busy working on the release of 2.1.5 at the minute. Yours Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 12:25:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA00971 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 12:25:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00954 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 12:25:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id UAA17374; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 20:25:08 +0100 (BST) To: fadorno@juno.com (Fred Adorno) cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Shell scripts for Netscape updates In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 05 Jul 1996 11:39:45 PST." <19960705.113947.10358.0.fadorno@juno.com> Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 20:25:08 +0100 Message-ID: <17372.836594708@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Fred Adorno wrote in message ID <19960705.113947.10358.0.fadorno@juno.com>: > Does any one have a nice shell script that will enable me to stay current > with the latest betas from Netscape? Use the `netscape3' port from the ports collection (in the www directory). We try to keep that right up to date. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 12:25:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA01049 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 12:25:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA01036 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 12:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id af29649; 5 Jul 96 19:25 GMT Received: from longacre.demon.co.uk ([158.152.156.24]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa14026; 5 Jul 96 20:24 +0100 From: Michael Searle Message-ID: To: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: C libraries Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 20:24:18 BST X-Mailer: Offlite 0.09 / Termite Internet for Acorn RISC OS Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have been having some problems getting C programs containing calls in math.h to link - is there a special library I have to use? I wrote a test program using sqrt(), but I get the same stuff for pow(), trig functions, etc. I am using standard gcc 2.6.3 on FreeBSD 2.1R. Here is the test program, the output I got from the linker, and my /usr/lib directory. It compiles and links OK, just using 'gcc sqrt.c -o sqrt', on a different (not FreeBSD) system running gcc 2.4.5. Also, one of the programs also needed Motif (the Xm library) to compile. Is there a free static version of the Motif library? (If so, where can I download it from?) sqrt.c: #include #include int main() { double x; fprintf(stdout,"What is your number?"); fscanf(stdin,"%lf",&x); fprintf(stdout,"The square root of %lf is %lf.",x,sqrt(x)); exit(); } #cc sqrt.c -o sqrt /var/tmp/cc0002661.o: Undefined symbol '_sqrt' referenced from text segment #cc sqrt.c -o sqrt -L/usr/lib -lc /var/tmp/cc0002731.o: Undefined symbol '_sqrt' referenced from text segment #cc sqrt.c -o sqrt -L/usr/lib -lgcc /var/tmp/cc0002781.o: Undefined symbol '_sqrt' referenced from text segment /usr/lib/libgcc.so.261.0: Undefined symbol '_sdiv_qrnnd' referenced _udiv_w_sdiv.o: Undefined symbol '_sdiv_qrnnd' referenced from text segment _udiv_w_sdiv.o: Undefined symbol '_sdiv_qrnnd' referenced from text segment _udiv_w_sdiv.o: Undefined symbol '_sdiv_qrnnd' referenced from text segment _udiv_w_sdiv.o: Undefined symbol '_sdiv_qrnnd' referenced from text segment #ls /usr/lib c++rt0.o libgcc.a libreadline_p.a crt0.o libgcc.so.261.0 libresolv.a gcrt0.o libgcc_p.a libresolv.so.2.0 kzhead.o libgcc_pic.a libresolv_p.a kztail.o libgnumalloc.a librpcsvc.a libc.a libgnumalloc.so.2.0 librpcsvc.so.2.0 libc.so.2.2 libgnumalloc_p.a librpcsvc_p.a libc.so.3.0 libgnuregex.a libscrypt.a libc_p.a libgnuregex.so.2.0 libscrypt.so.2.0 libc_pic.a libgnuregex_p.a libscrypt_p.a libcom_err.a libkeycap.a libscsi.a libcom_err.so.2.0 libkeycap_p.a libscsi.so.2.0 libcom_err_p.a libkvm.a libscsi_p.a libcompat.a libkvm.so.2.0 libskey.a libcompat_p.a libkvm_p.a libskey.so.2.0 libcrypt.a@ libl.a libskey_p.a libcrypt.so.2.0@ libl_p.a libss.a libcrypt_p.a@ libldso.a libss.so.2.0 libcurses.a libln.a libss_p.a libcurses.so.2.0 libln_p.a libtelnet.a libcurses_p.a libm.a libtelnet.so.2.0 libdialog.a libm.so.2.0 libtelnet_p.a libdialog.so.3.0 libm_p.a libtermcap.a libdialog_p.a libmd.a libtermcap.so.2.1 libedit.a libmd_p.a libtermcap_p.a libedit.so.2.0 libmytinfo.a libtermlib.a libedit_p.a libmytinfo.so.2.0 libtermlib.so.2.1 libf2c.a libmytinfo_p.a libtermlib_p.a libf2c.so.2.0 libncurses.a libutil.a libf2c_p.a libncurses.so.3.0 libutil.so.2.0 libforms.a libncurses_p.a libutil_p.a libforms.so.3.0 libpcap.a liby.a libforms_p.a libpcap.so.2.0 liby.so.2.0 libg++.a libpcap_p.a liby_p.a libg++.so.3.0 libreadline.a libg++_p.a libreadline.so.3.0 -- Michael Searle - searle@longacre.demon.co.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 12:26:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA01241 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 12:26:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA01233 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 12:26:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id UAA17360; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 20:23:37 +0100 (BST) To: Doug White cc: M C Wong , freebsd-questions@freefall.freebsd.org From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: [2.1R] same IP address assigned to ed0 and ppp0 ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 05 Jul 1996 11:12:06 PDT." Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 20:23:36 +0100 Message-ID: <17358.836594616@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Doug White wrote in message ID : > On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, M C Wong wrote: > > > Correct me if I'm wrong: FreeBSD 2.1R supports same IP addresses > > assigned onto different types of network interfaces, in particular a PPP > > interface and an Ethernet interface. > > I don't think so. You can assign multiple addresses to a single > interface, though. I think you can actually, since the routing code (from memory) uses the DESTINATION of a point-to-point link for it's routing decisions. It actually breaks some stuff (multicast I believe), but it SHOULD work fine for normal stuff. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 12:27:33 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA01393 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 12:27:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA01381 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 12:27:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id UAA17395; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 20:27:18 +0100 (BST) To: mike@NetworX.ie cc: FreeBSD Support From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: no rpc.statd and rpc.lockd In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 05 Jul 1996 19:49:54 -0000." Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 20:27:18 +0100 Message-ID: <17393.836594838@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Michael Ryan wrote in message ID : > If they don't exist, how is file locking performed? It's not over NFS, as I believe that Sun Microsystems have (a) never clearly published their lockd/statd specs and (b) never really got them working properly themselves. I believe there is basic code to do this in -current, but the lockd is a dummy which just accepts all lock requests blindly and approves them, not doing any actual file locking on the server itself. A full implimentation is being worked on, but may be some time yet. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 12:28:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA01695 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 12:28:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cicese.cicese.mx (cicese.cicese.mx [158.97.1.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA01666 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 12:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from knuth.cicese.mx by cicese.cicese.mx (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14415; Fri, 5 Jul 96 12:28:36 PDT Received: by knuth.cicese.mx (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA08561; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 12:27:31 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 12:27:31 -0700 From: rvega@cicese.mx (Raymundo Vega Aguilar) Message-Id: <9607051927.AA08561@knuth.cicese.mx> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: More than two ethernet cards X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I want to use a 3 ethernet cards in the same freebsd box, but the only ones i have are novell and western digital, both use the same device (ed's) and the actual kernel only supports two of them. Is there an easy way out or i have to modify and recompile the kernel?? Thanks. Raymundo. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 12:37:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA03262 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 12:37:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA03253 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 12:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ad03246; 5 Jul 96 19:36 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa10101; 5 Jul 96 18:12 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA01591; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:45:01 GMT Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 11:45:01 GMT Message-Id: <199607051145.LAA01591@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: jgibbs@ingham.k12.mi.us CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <31DC8ABE.46E6@ingham.k12.mi.us> (message from John Gibbs on Thu, 04 Jul 1996 23:23:42 -0400) Subject: Re: Linux and FreeBSD Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> John Gibbs writes: > How do Linux and FreeBSD differ? Since they both emulate UNIX, how > exactly are they different? FreeBSD is a complete operating system, Linux is, strictly, just a kernel. (In practice, Linux distributors add applications to provide a complete system). There is only one FreeBSD distribution, which is maintained by the FreeBSD developers. There are many Linux distributions, of varying quality. There appears to be little coordination between the Linux kernel developers and the distributors. A stable FreeBSD release is made every 6 months or so, with one of the core developers assigned as "release engineer". New Linux kernels are released literally every day, Linux distributions vary. One of the main aims of FreeBSD developers is stability. A sharp distinction is made between development code and release code, and code is not put into a public release until the developers believe they have tracked down all the bugs and integrated it smoothly with the rest of the system. Linux seems more interested in making the latest code available as quickly as possible, regardless of stability. FreeBSD is based on BSD Unix. Linux is based mainly on System V, though it often uses BSD applications and code (and man pages!). FreeBSD's TCP/IP code is derived from the reference implementation, Linux's is "home-made". Linux supports a wider range of hardware than FreeBSD; in particular, work is still in progress on FreeBSD's support for IDE CDROMs. There are probably many other points, those are just the ones that occurred to me. (No doubt others will fill in any obvious omissions!). You probably won't get anything much more than sweeping generalisations; anything more would require a very detailed knowledge of both systems, and as both systems are under very active development, keeping up to date with them is a full-time job in itself! If you're trying to decide which one to run, the only advice I can give is to try both of them out and see which one you prefer (and be grateful you have the choice!) > FreeBSD can run X-Windows, correct? Correct. > One last question.....how > many megs of hard disk does a typical installation of FreeBSD use? As many as it needs. This can be anything from ~50 - 700MB, depending on how much of it you install. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 12:49:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA04784 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 12:49:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA04777; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 12:48:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-8.ime.net [206.231.148.137]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA08690; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:48:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31DD71DF.220@ime.net> Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 15:49:51 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Palmer CC: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Help! Permission denied for logins. References: <17222.836593838@palmer.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gary Palmer wrote: > > Gary Chrysler wrote in message ID > <31DD5032.AF8@ime.net>: > > > > Ok what I fudgeup? > > The only user that can login is root. > > Everybody else gets: > > csh: Permission denied: Permission denied > > csh: Trying to start from "/home/" > > csh: Trying to start from "/" > > % > > At a guess: the permissions of `/' have been changed? They need to be > rwxr-xr-x (i.e. 755). It's either `/' or the /usr/home directory I > bet. > Yes, Thanks Gary.. Thats exactly what it was. The ~/.files were 644 versus 755. It didn't dawn on me untill you said that, that they are scripts needing executable permissions. I changed them to 755, Anything wrong with 700? PS: I added in my original question so it would make it to the archive in tact, for the next person. (It's not currently there) -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 13:04:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA05806 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:04:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA05799 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:04:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA14186; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:04:20 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu: jfieber owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:04:20 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber X-Sender: jfieber@Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu Reply-To: John Fieber To: Charlie ROOT cc: Zach Heilig , Annelise Anderson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sorting Incoming Mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Charlie ROOT wrote: > What I don't quite get is subscribing to different groups under > different names--e.g., instead of subscribing to doc as andrsn@ > andrsn.stanford.edu, I'd subscribe as fdocs@andrsn.stanford.edu, > create a user (without a valid shell or some such, so even if the > user had a password it would never need to be used) named fdocs, > and then use procmail to sort all mail to fdocs into the > appropriate folder/file in /usr/home/andrsn. Is that how people > do it? I suppose you could do it that way, but its unnecessary complexity. Look carefully through the headers on messages from mailing lists. Usually there will be something you can sort on. In messages from the FreeBSD mailing lists, the Sender: field is a giveaway: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org in the header. Then in my ~/.procmailrc (among other things): # Messages from any of the freebsd mailing lists... :0 * ^Sender:.*owner.*@freebsd.org { # The doc list gets filed in doc... :0 * ^Sender:.*doc doc # The cvs list gets filed in cvs... :0 * ^Sender:.*CVS-committers cvs # Separate out questions so I can ignore them... :0 * ^Sender:.*questions questions # ...and everything else in bsd. :0 bsd } With pine you can set up a collection of "incoming" folders that you can quickly scan through using the key. -john == jfieber@indiana.edu =========================================== == http://fallout.campusview.indiana.edu/~jfieber ================ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 13:12:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA06330 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:12:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA06289 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:12:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA14202; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:12:00 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu: jfieber owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:12:00 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber X-Sender: jfieber@Fieber-John.campusview.indiana.edu To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: When will Pine 3.94 be ported? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Doug White wrote: > Or is it necessary to port it? A reputable source here indicates that 3.95 may be out very shortly... -john == jfieber@indiana.edu =========================================== == http://fallout.campusview.indiana.edu/~jfieber ================ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 13:19:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA06897 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:19:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA06890; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:19:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-16.ime.net [206.231.148.145]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA10476; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 16:19:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31DD790A.1D35@ime.net> Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 16:20:26 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Palmer CC: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Help! Permission denied for logins. References: <17222.836593838@palmer.demon.co.uk> <31DD71DF.220@ime.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gary Chrysler wrote: > > Gary Palmer wrote: > > > > Gary Chrysler wrote in message ID > > <31DD5032.AF8@ime.net>: > > > > > > Ok what I fudgeup? > > > The only user that can login is root. > > > Everybody else gets: > > > csh: Permission denied: Permission denied > > > csh: Trying to start from "/home/" > > > csh: Trying to start from "/" > > > % > > > > At a guess: the permissions of `/' have been changed? They need to be > > rwxr-xr-x (i.e. 755). It's either `/' or the /usr/home directory I > > bet. > > > > Yes, Thanks Gary.. Thats exactly what it was. > The ~/.files were 644 versus 755. > > It didn't dawn on me untill you said that, that they are scripts > needing executable permissions. > Whoops, Retract that! They do _not_ need to be executable! (Welp, They work while not executable) The funny thing is, They were 644 when I was having the problem, I changed them to 755, It worked. I changed them back to 644, Still works! They are currently 644, As adduser creates them. rhosts is 600. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 13:29:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA07568 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:29:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Rigel.orionsys.com (root@rigel.orionsys.com [205.148.224.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA07551 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:28:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dbabler@localhost) by Rigel.orionsys.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id NAA00288; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:26:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:26:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Babler To: Bala Periasamy cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Majordomo problem (help) In-Reply-To: <199607042233.IAA01583@skeg.cst.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, Bala Periasamy wrote: > > > > I spent most of yesterday afternoon trying to get Majordomo to work and > > have exactly the same error. The error 137 (according to the Majordomo > > docs) is probably being returned from the mailer (sendmail in my case) > > but the man page for sendmail points to the syscodes header file which > > does not contain 137. If you run 'top' while majordomo runs, you'll see that > > it starts out with a few hundred k of swap, then every few seconds it > > grabs more and more and more and eventually runs out, faults and is > > killed. I assume it's a permissions error, but all I have to go on is the > > error code (136 or 137). If you find out anything more, please let me know. > > > > -Dave > > > > I have fixed the problem and now majordomo works fine. > The mistake was, the W_UID and W_GUID in the Makefile has to > point to uid and guid of the majordom user on your computer. > Keep the W_CHOWN to root. Now it you compile wrapper and do a > make install-wrapper, it should all work. > > cheers > bala Following your lead, I changed the definitions and re-made everything. It's now *different* anyway... what I get when I send email to majordomo is a nasty panic 13, which causes a reboot, which then loops forever. I had to ^C the sendmail daemon installation on boot up and then delete all the messages queued for sendmail and boot again to fix it. I don't have kernel dumps enabled (and the "Running FreeBSD" book is in error - there is no commented-out line in sysconfig as described for 'dumpdev') but will do so as soon as I can gracefully kick off the users. You *did* enable the POSIX-specific lines in the Makefile, yes? -Dave From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 13:30:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA07667 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:30:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nau.antar.bryansk.ru (nau.antar.bryansk.ru [194.87.200.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA07621 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:29:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from king.antar.bryansk.ru (king.antar.bryansk.ru [194.87.200.48]) by nau.antar.bryansk.ru (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id AAA26965 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 00:39:46 +0400 Received: (from bbs@localhost) by king.antar.bryansk.ru (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA04004; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 00:30:37 +0400 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 00:30:37 +0400 Message-Id: <199607052030.AAA04004@king.antar.bryansk.ru> To: questions@freebsd.org X-URL: mailto:questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2-4-2 X-Personal_name: lik From: b@king.antar.bryansk.ru Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 13:32:19 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA07902 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:32:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Rigel.orionsys.com (root@rigel.orionsys.com [205.148.224.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA07897 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:32:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dbabler@localhost) by Rigel.orionsys.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id NAA00321; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:31:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:31:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Babler To: James Raynard cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, bala@cst.com.au, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Majordomo problem (help) In-Reply-To: <199607042230.WAA02979@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, James Raynard wrote: > >>>>> Dave Babler writes: > > [re Majordomo causing all the swap to be used up] > > > I spent most of yesterday afternoon trying to get Majordomo to work and > > have exactly the same error. The error 137 (according to the Majordomo > > docs) is probably being returned from the mailer (sendmail in my case) > > but the man page for sendmail points to the syscodes header file which > > does not contain 137. If you run 'top' while majordomo runs... > > Something is clearly causing Perl to go into an endless loop and eat > up all the system's virtual memory. Since 99% of Majordomo problems > are permissions-related (allegedly), that's what I'd look at first. > I changed the Makefile so that it is using the same group and uid values as the real majordom account (duh!) and re-made everything. Now what happens is that when it is invoked by having mail sent to majordomo, it crashes the system with a panic 13 fault, reboots and repeats forever. Closer, maybe, but a bit harder on the old heart. Deleting the queued messages for sendmail fixed the crashing. Will try enabling core dumps next to see if I can decypher the problem from that. -Dave From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 13:45:44 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA09077 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:45:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from synwork.com (flaq@synwork.com [199.3.234.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA09048 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:45:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (flaq@localhost) by synwork.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA01200 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:45:16 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:45:15 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike K." To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: New Motherboard Choice Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am wanting to upgrade my FreeBSD box and and trying to decide whether to get a P-120 or a Cyrix 686-120. Anyone have any suggestions or input? Mike ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Syn-Work Media, Inc. | WWW Development & Hosting | Life Safety http://www.synwork.com | Systems Integration | CCTV mike@synwork.com | Voice/Data/Fiber | Access Control Flaq on IRC | Dukane Distributor | BICSI/RCDD ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 14:00:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA10595 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 14:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA10585; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 14:00:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA15501; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:57:49 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607052057.NAA15501@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: SysAdmin Tools - ideas wanted To: gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG (Gary Palmer) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:57:49 -0700 (MST) Cc: ron@infi.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <17233.836594040@palmer.demon.co.uk> from "Gary Palmer" at Jul 5, 96 08:14:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hrm. I have a bunch of mail sat in my mailbox on this subject. It's a > very interesting subject to deal with properly. I think I can say now > that you're heading down the wrong road. A tcl/tk front end, while > nice, doesn't provide the facilities needed IMHO, unless you TOTALLY > separate the tcl end out so that it can be run standalone from the > command line, and in a batch operation mode (i.e. non-interactive). Yes yes yes. The GUI/text/sysadm/etc. front end should be totally seperate from the database manipulation tools invoked to back-end the administration. I'd like to see one program for a front end, and multiple tools that get invoked as a result of front end manipulation. Tcl/tk are OK for the fornt end tool, but not the backend implementation. > If you want to wait a few days, I can start up an e-mail dialogue with > you on this ... I'm a bit busy working on the release of 2.1.5 at the > minute. Jordan has some stuff to say on this as well (I assume he's busy too). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 14:29:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA12928 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 14:29:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thomson.iqm.unicamp.br (thomson.iqm.unicamp.br [143.106.13.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA12908 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 14:29:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thomson.iqm.unicamp.br (localhost.iqm.unicamp.br [127.0.0.1]) by thomson.iqm.unicamp.br (8.6.12/8.6.12/FreeBSD2.1) with SMTP id SAA00256 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 18:26:08 GMT Message-ID: <31DD5E40.41C67EA6@iqm.unicamp.br> Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 18:26:08 +0000 From: Fabio Cezar Gozzo Organization: IQ - UNICAMP X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Pentium Pro X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm planning to buy a Pentium Pro 200 MHz motherboard to run with FreeBSD, and havea quotation of a ASUS PI-P6-NP5 model. I'm wondering if anyone knows if this board has the ChipSet problem that is present in some Pentium Pro boards. This ASUS board use the Intel 440FX PCIset. Thanks in advance, Fabio Gozzo fabio@iqm.unicamp.br From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 14:27:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA12770 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 14:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.aros.net (mailhub.aros.net [205.164.111.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA12763 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 14:27:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from terra.aros.net (terra.aros.net [205.164.111.10]) by mailhub.aros.net (8.7.5/Unknown) with ESMTP id PAA29247; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:28:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from angio@localhost) by terra.aros.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) id PAA23497; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:26:59 -0600 From: Dave Andersen Message-Id: <199607052126.PAA23497@terra.aros.net> Subject: Re: C libraries To: searle@longacre.demon.co.uk (Michael Searle) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:26:59 -0600 (MDT) Cc: questions@freefall.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Michael Searle" at Jul 5, 96 08:24:18 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 PGP2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk gcc -lm *** -- link the math library in. Lo and behold, Michael Searle once said: > > I have been having some problems getting C programs containing calls in > math.h to link - is there a special library I have to use? I wrote a test > program using sqrt(), but I get the same stuff for pow(), trig functions, > etc. I am using standard gcc 2.6.3 on FreeBSD 2.1R. Here is the test > program, the output I got from the linker, and my /usr/lib directory. > > It compiles and links OK, just using 'gcc sqrt.c -o sqrt', on a different > (not FreeBSD) system running gcc 2.4.5. > > Also, one of the programs also needed Motif (the Xm library) to compile. Is > there a free static version of the Motif library? (If so, where can I > download it from?) > > sqrt.c: > > #include > #include > > int main() { > double x; > > fprintf(stdout,"What is your number?"); > fscanf(stdin,"%lf",&x); > > fprintf(stdout,"The square root of %lf is %lf.",x,sqrt(x)); > > exit(); > } -- angio@aros.net Complete virtual hosting and business-oriented system administration Internet services. (WWW, FTP, email) http://www.aros.net/ http://www.aros.net/about/virtual "There are only two industries that refer to their customers as 'users'." From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 14:47:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA14084 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 14:47:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from guilder.ucdavis.edu (root@guilder.ucdavis.edu [128.120.8.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA14078 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 14:46:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rosarita.engr.ucdavis.edu by guilder.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.7) id OAA03389; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 14:46:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tehama.engr.ucdavis.edu by rosarita.engr.ucdavis.edu (4.1/EACS-2.1) id AA08449; Fri, 5 Jul 96 14:46:53 PDT Received: by tehama.engr.ucdavis.edu (920330.SGI/920502.SGI.AUTO) for @rosarita.engr.ucdavis.edu:questions@freebsd.org id AA15526; Fri, 5 Jul 96 14:52:14 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 96 14:52:14 -0700 From: white@tehama.engr.ucdavis.edu (Michael White) Message-Id: <9607052152.AA15526@tehama.engr.ucdavis.edu> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Problem with ft on tape backup. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I was attempting to back up my system with ft (as described in the man pages) and the program hung. And I mean really hung. I wasn't able to terminate the process with a "kill -9 pid_number". I had to reboot to terminate the process. The error message on the console read: ft0: unrecoverable write error on block 3200 I am running FreeBSD 2.1.0 (<- I think... I did a net install in April '96) and my tape drive is an iomega DITTO 420 (QIC 80) and the tape is a DC-2120XL QIC80 formatted mini data cartridge. The drive is daisy chained with the two floppies. The tape was brand new (just out of the wrapper). What I did to try to solve the problem: When I saw that the tar was hung and that there was an error on the console, I tried to ^C out. Failing that I tried to kill the process. The ft process would not die (I did manage to kill all of the parent processes, including the login... And I was root at the time). A possibly related incident (which if anyone knows if it is a problem or not I'd like to know) is when I not ft the tape (to try to see the label) I just get: " " and the creation date (it was supposed to have the label: "/ backup". It also will give the following 3 lines before and after the label: ftc0: output ready timeout ftc0: input ready timeout ftc0: input ready timeout Is this indicating a problem? Anyone know what is going on? Do I need a separate format command for the tape before I try to tar something on it? I have searched the faq, Handbook and the archives of mailing lists on the Web and can find very little about this tape driver, so if I have missed something, please let me know. Also, one last thing, is this the type of thing one would submit as a bug or not. I have not yet done so, but can file a bug report if people think that it fits the area of problem reports. Sorry this is so long. Thanks in advance for any help. - Mike ======================================================================== | | | _ | Michael D. White _______|/V\|_______ University of California, Davis X------------[_\(.)/_]------------X Dept. of Mechanical & Aeronautical Engineering /o`~|~`o\ white@halfdome.engr.ucdavis.edu O H O http://www.engr.ucdavis.edu/~mdwhite http://www-mae.engr.ucdavis.edu/CFD/white ======================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 14:59:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA14770 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 14:59:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from riverside.mr.net (root@Riverside.MR.Net [137.192.2.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA14756; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 14:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from galileo.mr.net by riverside.mr.net (8.7.5/SMI-4.1.R931202) id QAA00284; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 16:59:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from black@localhost) by galileo.mr.net (8.7.2/8.7.2) id QAA01416; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 16:59:22 -0500 (CDT) From: Ben Black Message-Id: <199607052159.QAA01416@galileo.mr.net> Subject: Re: SysAdmin Tools - ideas wanted To: gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG (Gary Palmer) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 16:59:21 -0500 (CDT) Cc: ron@infi.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <17233.836594040@palmer.demon.co.uk> from "Gary Palmer" at Jul 5, 96 08:14:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME7a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hrm. I have a bunch of mail sat in my mailbox on this subject. It's a > very interesting subject to deal with properly. I think I can say now > that you're heading down the wrong road. A tcl/tk front end, while > nice, doesn't provide the facilities needed IMHO, unless you TOTALLY > separate the tcl end out so that it can be run standalone from the > command line, and in a batch operation mode (i.e. non-interactive). > i agree completely. years of working with NetInfo under NEXTSTEP taught me that ALL the sysadmin tools need to work from the command line. something which is much more ambitious an idea is a full network information database system like NIS+ or NetInfo (except good). that is something which i would be willing to dedicate time to if anyone else is interested. Ben black@mr.net From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 15:00:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA14849 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:00:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA14797; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 14:59:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (kelly@emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA03846; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 21:59:55 GMT Message-Id: <199607052159.VAA03846@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA013093992; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:59:53 -0600 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:59:53 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: terry@lambert.org Cc: gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG, ron@infi.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199607052057.NAA15501@phaeton.artisoft.com> (message from Terry Lambert on Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:57:49 -0700 (MST)) Subject: Re: SysAdmin Tools - ideas wanted Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Terry" == Terry Lambert writes: Terry> Tcl/tk are OK for the fornt end tool, but not the backend Terry> implementation. But it'd be perfect for providing an *interface* to the backend implementation. That's one of Tcl's strongest features: it's easily embeddable---and you get a set of nice scripting primitives as a bonus. -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 15:18:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA15755 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA15746; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:18:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA15685; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:15:31 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607052215.PAA15685@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: SysAdmin Tools - ideas wanted To: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:15:31 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG, ron@infi.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199607052159.VAA03846@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> from "Sean Kelly" at Jul 5, 96 03:59:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Terry> Tcl/tk are OK for the fornt end tool, but not the backend > Terry> implementation. > > But it'd be perfect for providing an *interface* to the backend > implementation. That's one of Tcl's strongest features: it's easily > embeddable---and you get a set of nice scripting primitives as a > bonus. Keep the scripting away from the tools proper, please. I don't want to *have* to run Tcl to administer my system, but I can understand that other people may want to run it to administer theirs. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 15:33:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA16733 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:33:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po1.glue.umd.edu (po1.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA16728 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:33:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from downlink.eng.umd.edu (downlink.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.182]) by po1.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA01622; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 18:33:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by downlink.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA14139; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 18:33:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 18:33:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@downlink.eng.umd.edu To: Michael Searle cc: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: C libraries In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, Michael Searle wrote: > I have been having some problems getting C programs containing calls in > math.h to link - is there a special library I have to use? I wrote a test > program using sqrt(), but I get the same stuff for pow(), trig functions, > etc. I am using standard gcc 2.6.3 on FreeBSD 2.1R. Here is the test > program, the output I got from the linker, and my /usr/lib directory. > > It compiles and links OK, just using 'gcc sqrt.c -o sqrt', on a different > (not FreeBSD) system running gcc 2.4.5. > > Also, one of the programs also needed Motif (the Xm library) to compile. Is > there a free static version of the Motif library? (If so, where can I > download it from?) try linking with -lm, the math library. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 15:39:54 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA16962 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:39:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cais.cais.com (cais.com [199.0.216.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA16956 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:39:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from babel (babel.cais.com [204.157.31.49]) by cais.cais.com (8.6.10/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA05715; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 18:39:39 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 18:37:47 +0000 () From: "Robert F. Abel" To: questions@FreeBSD.org cc: babel@cais.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Bdd Having problems with the floppy tape (ft) QIC80 backup utility. When backing up my FreeBSD System (700 MB), backup got to second tape then got error message "fatal write error" and it quit. Also the following Messages flashes on the screen at random and throughout the process. "July 5 17.50:42 babel /kernel: fdc0: output ready timeout" "July 5 17.50:42 babel /kernel: fdc0: input ready timeout" Any way to get rid of these messages, could they be causing my fatal write error ? I own rev 2.1 FreeBSD CDROM. Missing any patches on ft software ? Any new Colorado QIC80 type driver apps on the horrizon ? Thanks in advance Bob Abel babel@cais.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 15:41:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA17160 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:41:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from badboy.wisetech.com (badboy.wisetech.com [205.231.232.76]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA17155 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:41:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from badboy.wisetech.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by badboy.wisetech.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA07703; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 18:27:45 -0400 Message-ID: <31DD96E1.2781E494@wisetech.com> Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 18:27:45 -0400 From: Rick Weldon Organization: Weldon Internet SEcurity Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Searle CC: questions@freefall.freebsd.org Subject: Re: C libraries References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Michael Searle wrote: > #cc sqrt.c -o sqrt > /var/tmp/cc0002661.o: Undefined symbol '_sqrt' referenced from text segment You need to link in the math library. Add -lm # cc sqrt.c -o sqrt -lm should do it. I guess on the other machine your mentioned the math routines are in libc or the math lib is automagically searched. Rick From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 15:42:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA17196 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:42:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.131.181]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA17191; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emu.fsl.noaa.gov (kelly@emu.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.60.32]) by gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA03969; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 22:42:32 GMT Message-Id: <199607052242.WAA03969@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> Received: by emu.fsl.noaa.gov (1.40.112.4/16.2) id AA014336551; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 16:42:31 -0600 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 16:42:31 -0600 From: Sean Kelly To: terry@lambert.org Cc: terry@lambert.org, gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG, ron@infi.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199607052215.PAA15685@phaeton.artisoft.com> (message from Terry Lambert on Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:15:31 -0700 (MST)) Subject: Re: SysAdmin Tools - ideas wanted Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Terry" == Terry Lambert writes: Terry> Keep the scripting away from the tools proper, please. I Terry> don't want to *have* to run Tcl to administer my system, Terry> but I can understand that other people may want to run it Terry> to administer theirs. What, you haven't made tclsh your login shell? ;-) Seriously, I agree that the administrative commands should be typeable just from the command line. And Tcl can still provide such a ``user interface.'' Consider the primitives lock_passwd_file, append_pwent, lookup_pwent, etc., added to a Tcl interpreter (either compiled in or dynamically loaded). Then, make two scripts that use those primitives. You would then use those as follows: csh> add_user -login lambert -name "Terry Lambert" -homedir "/u/lambert" or csh> xuseradmin & where add_user is #!/usr/local/bin/tclsh ...check command line args, set defaults... if {[lock_passwd_file]} { append_pwent ... } and xuseradmin is #!/usr/local/bin/wish ...do it!... -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory kelly@fsl.noaa.gov Boulder Colorado USA http://www-sdd.fsl.noaa.gov/~kelly/ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 16:43:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA20001 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 16:43:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from arl-img-5.compuserve.com ([149.174.217.135]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA19995 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 16:43:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by arl-img-5.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id TAA09425; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 19:42:37 -0400 Date: 05 Jul 96 19:39:40 EDT From: Thierry Boudet <101355.2112@CompuServe.COM> To: Questions FreeBSD Subject: IPX & TLI Message-ID: <960705233940_101355.2112_JHP49-1@CompuServe.COM> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello everybody I am currently working on a networking project between UnixWare and MS-DOS over the Novell IPX protocol. I'd like to port the Unix-side on FreeBSD. I have based my work on the sysV "TLI" interface with IPX. Is it possible to use IPX in FreeBSD with TLI ? Best regards. Thierry Boudet, Toulouse, France. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 16:53:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA20678 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 16:53:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po1.glue.umd.edu (po1.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA20672; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 16:53:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from downlink.eng.umd.edu (downlink.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.182]) by po1.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA01956; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 19:53:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by downlink.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA14090; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 19:53:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 19:53:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@downlink.eng.umd.edu To: Terry Lambert cc: Sean Kelly , terry@lambert.org, gpalmer@FreeBSD.org, ron@infi.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: SysAdmin Tools - ideas wanted In-Reply-To: <199607052215.PAA15685@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: > > Terry> Tcl/tk are OK for the fornt end tool, but not the backend > > Terry> implementation. > > > > But it'd be perfect for providing an *interface* to the backend > > implementation. That's one of Tcl's strongest features: it's easily > > embeddable---and you get a set of nice scripting primitives as a > > bonus. > > Keep the scripting away from the tools proper, please. I don't > want to *have* to run Tcl to administer my system, but I can > understand that other people may want to run it to administer theirs. This isn't clear to me, Terry ... Keep any software capable of accepting a script away from a prime scripting application .... hmmm, would you have said the same to a perl script, or a shell script? This sounds somewhat inconsistent, I'd like you to amplify on it, if you would. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 17:07:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA21266 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 17:07:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po2.glue.umd.edu (po2.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA21261 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 17:07:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from downlink.eng.umd.edu (downlink.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.182]) by po2.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA01968 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 20:07:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by downlink.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA13724; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 20:07:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 20:07:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@downlink.eng.umd.edu To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Matsushita cdrom Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm just about finished building a machine for my son, out of cast off hardware left after a real successful upgrade of my main machine. To finish the job, I am giving him my Soundblaster 16, because he had an unrecognizable sound card, to interface his Matsushita cdrom with. I have no experience with the matcd device (I assume that's the right one for use with the Soundblaster 16), since I run all-scsi. Does anyone know what cdrom player software will work with it? If I want file access to the cdrom, what /dev/--- device do I ask MAKEDEV to build for me? Do I mount it with mount -type cd9660 like I would the /dev/cd0a device? Thanks for the help, the hardware is already built and running FreeBSD-current. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 17:27:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA21987 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 17:27:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA21976 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 17:27:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0ucBVZ-000QclC; Fri, 5 Jul 96 16:05 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA15770; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:58:51 +0200 Message-Id: <199607051358.PAA15770@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: [2.1R] same IP address assigned to ed0 and ppp0 ? To: mcw@hpato.aus.hp.com (M C Wong) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:58:51 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: <199607050058.AA072678307@relay.hp.com> from "M C Wong" at Jul 5, 96 10:58:23 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk M C Wong writes: > > Hi, > Correct me if I'm wrong: FreeBSD 2.1R supports same IP addresses > assigned onto different types of network interfaces, in particular a PPP > interface and an Ethernet interface. You're not wrong. It's a good idea to conserve addresses like that. Here's my ISDN router: === grog@daemon (/dev/ttyp0) /usr/home/grog 8 -> ifconfig -a ed0: flags=8863 mtu 1500 inet 192.109.197.156 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.109.197.255 lp0: flags=8810 mtu 1500 ipi0: flags=811 mtu 1500 inet 192.109.197.156 --> 194.163.31.4 netmask 0xffffffc0 ipi1: flags=811 mtu 1500 inet 192.109.197.156 --> 194.64.112.1 netmask 0xffffff00 ipi2: flags=811 mtu 1500 inet 192.109.197.156 --> 194.163.31.129 netmask 0xffffffc0 ipi3: flags=811 mtu 1500 inet 192.109.197.38 --> 192.109.197.37 netmask 0xffffff00 ipi4: flags=811 mtu 1500 inet 192.109.197.156 --> 194.77.2.34 netmask 0xffffff00 ipi5: flags=811 mtu 1500 inet 192.109.197.156 --> 194.163.31.1 netmask 0xffffffc0 ipi6: flags=811 mtu 1500 inet 192.109.197.156 --> 192.129.52.242 netmask 0xffffff00 ipi7: flags=810 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552 tun0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 I use ipi3 for testing in the local network, that's the only reason why it has a different interface address. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 17:30:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA22087 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 17:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA22082 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 17:30:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ac22062; 6 Jul 96 0:30 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa06500; 6 Jul 96 0:51 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA03880; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 22:27:32 GMT Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 22:27:32 GMT Message-Id: <199607052227.WAA03880@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: martin.loeffler@utoronto.ca CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <1.5.4.32.19960705142437.00af0220@mailbox1.utcc.utoronto.ca> (message from Martin Loeffler on Fri, 5 Jul 1996 10:24:37 -0400) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Pardon my ignorance, but can someone clue me in on how to install the crypt > libraries for FreeBSD v2.1 so that I can compile qpopper v2.2? They should have been installed as part of the base system. If the linker can't find them, put '-lcrypt' on its command line. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 17:33:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA22171 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 17:33:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA22166 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 17:33:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ai24614; 6 Jul 96 0:33 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa06522; 6 Jul 96 0:52 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA03892; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 22:34:33 GMT Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 22:34:33 GMT Message-Id: <199607052234.WAA03892@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: rcutter@ctgusa.com CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <1.5.4.32.19960705154424.008cda38@ctgusa.com> (message from Ryan Cutter on Fri, 05 Jul 1996 11:44:24 -0400) Subject: Re: Changing prompt Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > How can I change my prompt in FreeBSD to reflect the current > directory I'm in? It depends on which shell you're using - it'll be the C shell if you haven't changed it. Here's the answer from the comp.unix.questions FAQ:- Put this in your .cshrc - customize the prompt variable the way you want. alias setprompt 'set prompt="${cwd}% "' setprompt # to set the initial prompt alias cd 'chdir \!* && setprompt' This will give you a prompt that looks like '/home/james% ' when you log in. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 17:37:46 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA22308 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 17:37:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lint.cisco.com (lint.cisco.com [171.68.223.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA22303 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 17:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (skrishna@localhost) by lint.cisco.com (8.6.10/CISCO.SERVER.1.1) id RAA29957; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 17:38:08 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 17:38:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Sridhar Krishnan To: Greg Lehey cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1 Help In-Reply-To: <199607030834.KAA24423@allegro.lemis.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Please read on. On Wed, 3 Jul 1996, Greg Lehey wrote: > Sridhar Krishnan writes: > > > > > > I purchased and installed FreeBSD 2.1 from Walnut Creek CD-ROM. I need > > help on the following items: > > > > 1. I configured the serial port 1 (which has a built in modem) for the > > IRQ4 and i/o address of 0x3e8 (as per BIOS 03E8h). The new kernel > > recognizes the port. However, when I use /dev/cuaa0 it does not work.For > > example, I tried echo ATDT11111 >/dev/cuaa0. The modem should atleast be > > off the hook and I should here a dial-tone. No. Also, ppp seems to hang. > > I had the ppp.conf in /etc/ppp directory configured to use this device. > > No go. > > I don't know if this should work. I personally use cu for this sort > of thing > > $ cu -s 38400 -l /dev/cuaa0 > I tried, and it does not seem to work. The device is properly configured. I even deleted cuaa0 and re-added using /dev/MAKEDEV. the tun0 is all set up. I set up the ppp according to the handbook. Help! This is the only "hitch" I have to a fully functional system. > > 2. I am getting UnixSocket error after I boot. So, I am unable to ping > > localhost. > > I'd need more information on this one. The exact error message, for > example. You should be able to ping localhost after entering > > # ifconfig lo0 127.1 > Solved. Thanks. > > 3. I have a Trident SVGA card on PCI motherboard with Linear Accelerator > > and 1MB of VRAM, and I tried configuring for X86_SVGA and it errors with > > chipset did not recognize xxx address. I should be able to use SVGA with > > 256 colors (like Windows does). > > I'd guess that xf86config has the same problem that I do: not enough > information. Did you tell it the correct chip set? > I downloaded the 3.1.2E drivers for Trident, reconfigured and it worked. (of course after a few failed attempts). I have one othe question regarding "fvwm". What do I set before getting it to work ? What should be my display ? I tried setting up in /etc/ttys and it did not work. Thanks, Sridhar > > > Please Help. Thanks putting out a great product. > > You're welcome > > > The Install Book is great. > > Thank you > Greg > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 18:14:25 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA23924 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 18:14:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail (mail.bcpl.lib.md.us [204.255.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA23919 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 18:14:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp21.bcpl.lib.md.us by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA03180; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 21:15:02 +0500 Received: by ppp21.bcpl.lib.md.us with Microsoft Mail id <01BB6AB6.E76D1B20@ppp21.bcpl.lib.md.us>; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 21:14:08 -0400 Message-Id: <01BB6AB6.E76D1B20@ppp21.bcpl.lib.md.us> From: Anil John To: "'FreeBSD Questions'" Subject: Netscape & FreeBSD Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 21:14:06 -0400 Encoding: 12 TEXT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is probably a !@#$@ question but here goes :) Do you need to be running X in order to use Netscape with FreeBSD ? Anil ___________________________________________________________ CyberForge Group LLC * Internet Consulting E-Mail: ajohn@cyberforge.com * WWW Publishing 410-597-8139 * LAN & WAN Integration URL: http://www.cyberforge.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 18:44:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA26111 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 18:44:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA26105 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 18:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ac19086; 6 Jul 96 1:43 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa09917; 5 Jul 96 18:11 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA01856; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 17:09:03 GMT Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 17:09:03 GMT Message-Id: <199607051709.RAA01856@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: lerland@icrt.demon.co.uk CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (lerland@icrt.demon.co.uk) Subject: Re: Help: FreeBSD 2.1 'mount' fails on 2.0 SCSI partition Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Lars G. Erlandsen" writes: [Very lengthy explanation elided] If I understand correctly, the problem is something like this:- wd0 DOS slice, FreeBSD-2.1.0 root partition sd0 not relevant here sd1 dedicated FreeBSD-2.0 disk with a trashed root partition, but a /usr partition with valuable data in it. System will boot off FreeBSD partition on wd0, but on attempting to mount /dev/sd1s1d, gives errors about "overlapping partitions" and mounts the trashed root partition instead! How to recover data from /usr? I don't really know what to suggest here - I remember seeing someone posting about an FTP site with 2.0 and 2.0.5 on it, but I don't have the details any more. Anyone else? -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 19:22:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA29895 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 19:22:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA29878 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 19:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-10.ime.net [206.231.148.139]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA28070; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 22:22:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31DDCDF9.349C@ime.net> Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 22:22:49 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anil John CC: "'FreeBSD Questions'" Subject: Re: Netscape & FreeBSD References: <01BB6AB6.E76D1B20@ppp21.bcpl.lib.md.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anil John wrote: > > This is probably a !@#$@ question but here goes :) > > Do you need to be running X in order to use Netscape with FreeBSD ? > I'd be interested in hearing this reply as well. Thanks -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 19:22:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA29963 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 19:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emout12.mail.aol.com (emout12.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA29949; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 19:22:44 -0700 (PDT) From: MichaelGoe@aol.com Received: by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA12133; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 22:23:29 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 22:23:29 -0400 Message-ID: <960705222327_570731536@emout12.mail.aol.com> To: questions@freebsd.org cc: install@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Have DOS, OS/2...how to install BSD? HELP! Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thanks for everyones help. I''ve gotten this boot process all ironed out. Michael G. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 19:42:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA02653 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 19:42:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br (root@cisigw.coppe.ufrj.br [146.164.2.31]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA02640 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 19:42:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA18547; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 23:42:31 -0300 (EST) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199607060242.XAA18547@mailhost.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: IPX & TLI To: 101355.2112@CompuServe.COM (Thierry Boudet) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 23:42:30 -0300 (EST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <960705233940_101355.2112_JHP49-1@CompuServe.COM> from Thierry Boudet at "Jul 5, 96 07:39:40 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL14 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk #define quoting(Thierry Boudet) // Hello everybody // // I am currently working on a networking project // between UnixWare and MS-DOS over the Novell IPX protocol. // I'd like to port the Unix-side on FreeBSD. I have based // my work on the sysV "TLI" interface with IPX. Is it possible // to use IPX in FreeBSD with TLI ? No. There's no implementation of STREAMS and, consequently, TLI over FreeBSD (yet :) ). // // Best regards. Thierry Boudet, Toulouse, France. // // // Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 ( Job ) jonny@cisi.coppe.ufrj.br Network Manager UFRJ/COPPE/CISI Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 19:45:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA02987 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 19:45:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eng3.iastate.edu (eng3.iastate.edu [129.186.1.112]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA02981 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 19:45:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by eng3.iastate.edu with sendmail-5.65 id ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 21:45:36 -0500 Message-Id: <9607060245.AA15123@eng3.iastate.edu> To: questions@FreeBsd.org Subject: Can I use Linux driver of my CD ROM with FreeBSD? Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 21:45:36 CDT From: Babak Sehari Sender: owner-questions@FreeBsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have an old CD ROM that is controlled by a card CM 250. There is a linux driver for it. Would such driver work with FreeBSD? My second question is how to make up arrow and down arrow to work with history. That is when you press uparrow you get the previous command. Finally, how can I make ^D to logout in non root directory. Note that ^D log me out from the root directory but not from user account. With highest regards Babak E. Sehari From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 20:07:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA05011 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 20:07:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA05005; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 20:07:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA16046; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 20:03:54 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607060303.UAA16046@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: SysAdmin Tools - ideas wanted To: chuckr@Glue.umd.edu (Chuck Robey) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 20:03:54 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, kelly@fsl.noaa.gov, gpalmer@FreeBSD.org, ron@infi.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Chuck Robey" at Jul 5, 96 07:53:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > Terry> Tcl/tk are OK for the fornt end tool, but not the backend > > > Terry> implementation. > > > > > > But it'd be perfect for providing an *interface* to the backend > > > implementation. That's one of Tcl's strongest features: it's easily > > > embeddable---and you get a set of nice scripting primitives as a > > > bonus. > > > > Keep the scripting away from the tools proper, please. I don't > > want to *have* to run Tcl to administer my system, but I can > > understand that other people may want to run it to administer theirs. > > This isn't clear to me, Terry ... Keep any software capable of accepting > a script away from a prime scripting application .... hmmm, would you > have said the same to a perl script, or a shell script? This sounds > somewhat inconsistent, I'd like you to amplify on it, if you would. Yes, I would say exactly the same thing to a perl script or shell script. I think the system management tools should operate on a class of databases (for instance, the "user" and "group" databases are elements of the class "credentials"). I think the tools should impose their own UI schema as data. I think the front end should open the tools via a pipe (and the tools written to understand stdio flushing on output for not tty output). I think the front end should be written in sh, or perl or tcl, or whatever. I *don't* think the management tools themselves should be. I think the management tools should be uilt for script embedding, so that they may be invoked with command line arguments; for instance: ============================================================================ Example: a "uadmin" tool: ============================================================================ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mode 1: command line batch. This mode is used by front ends. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- # uadmin uadmin> BEGIN ADD USER add user> USER=jkh add user> NAME=Jordan Hubbard add user> ID=501 add user> GROUP=20 0 552 add user> HOME=/home/jkh add user> SHELL=/bin/csh add user> EXPIRE_PASSWORD=NEVER add user> EXPIRE_ACCOUNT=NEVER add user> END ACCEPT uadmin: added jkh uadmin> ^D # ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mode 2: command line, non-interactive. This mode is used in scripts. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- # uadmin add user USER=jkh NAME="Jordan Hubbard" ID=501 GROUP="20 0 552" HOME=/home/jkh uadmin: added jkh # ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mode 3: command line, interactive. This mode is used by a human. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- # uadmin uadmin> add user USER=jkh NAME="Jordan Hubbard" ID=501 GROUP="20 0 552" HOME=/home/jkh uadmin: added jkh uadmin> ^D # ============================================================================ As you can see, there are well known "environement variables" for any given scoping. Clearly, in the mode 1 usage, "END CANCEL" would discard edits instead of saving them, as "END ACCEPT" does. etc. I posted a partial grammar for the "uadmin" command skeleton using yacc, lex, and C code to this list previously. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 20:14:31 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA05323 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 20:14:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA05317; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 20:14:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA16074; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 20:11:14 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607060311.UAA16074@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: SysAdmin Tools - ideas wanted To: kelly@fsl.noaa.gov (Sean Kelly) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 20:11:14 -0700 (MST) Cc: terry@lambert.org, gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG, ron@infi.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199607052242.WAA03969@gatekeeper.fsl.noaa.gov> from "Sean Kelly" at Jul 5, 96 04:42:31 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Seriously, I agree that the administrative commands should be typeable > just from the command line. And Tcl can still provide such a ``user > interface.'' Yes. I would like them to be database-centric, idempotent, and reversable. That is, the same tool should be used to add/delete/list database entries, potentially for multiple databases. For instance, the group and passwd files together are two databases that constitute a credentials management schema. The "user admin" tool should operate against both databases. > Consider the primitives lock_passwd_file, append_pwent, lookup_pwent, > etc., added to a Tcl interpreter (either compiled in or dynamically > loaded). Then, make two scripts that use those primitives. You would > then use those as follows: > > csh> add_user -login lambert -name "Terry Lambert" -homedir "/u/lambert" > > or > > csh> xuseradmin & > > where add_user is > > #!/usr/local/bin/tclsh > ...check command line args, set defaults... > if {[lock_passwd_file]} { > append_pwent ... > } > > and xuseradmin is > > #!/usr/local/bin/wish > ...do it!... Actually, I was thinking of: == #!/bib/sh # # xuadmin # # X user administration interface FRONTEND uadmin == Where FRONTEND is a program written in TCL, curses, or whatever. Preferrably, I'd build a front end manager that could dlopen the appropriate interface based on the environment it is run in (ie: if there is a DISPLAY environement variable, then FRONTEND would be X; if not, it would be curses, whatever. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 21:19:43 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA09828 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 21:19:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from synwork.com (flaq@synwork.com [199.3.234.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA09816 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 21:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (flaq@localhost) by synwork.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA03070; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 23:18:37 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 23:18:36 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike K." To: Gary Chrysler cc: Anil John , "'FreeBSD Questions'" Subject: Re: Netscape & FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <31DDCDF9.349C@ime.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The answer is YES On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, Gary Chrysler wrote: > Anil John wrote: > > > > This is probably a !@#$@ question but here goes :) > > > > Do you need to be running X in order to use Netscape with FreeBSD ? > > > > I'd be interested in hearing this reply as well. Thanks > > -Enjoy > Gary > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours > The Borg... Where minds meet > (207) 929-3848 > ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Syn-Work Media, Inc. | WWW Development & Hosting | Life Safety http://www.synwork.com | Systems Integration | CCTV mike@synwork.com | Voice/Data/Fiber | Access Control Flaq on IRC | Dukane Distributor | BICSI/RCDD ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 21:24:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA10298 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 21:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA10280 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 21:24:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-13.ime.net [206.231.148.142]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA03886 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 00:24:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31DDEA94.2B74@ime.net> Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 00:24:52 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Ports suggestion Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Something I find very very annoying as a Newbie. pkg_add a package, It drops ya right back to the prompt without a clue on what to do next! How about requiring a small message displayed with at least "see man xxxxx for further details" or "See pkg_info " Yes, Some have this info in the pkg_info, Most don't! It's very flusterating. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 22:16:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA13655 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 22:16:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA13646 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 22:16:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-2.ime.net [206.231.148.131]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA05735 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 01:15:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31DDF6B3.3FC3@ime.net> Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 01:16:35 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: makeing world Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I read someplace that it's best to drop into single user mode to make world, Is this fact? If so, How does one log the make process. I would normally do: make |& tee make.err This don't work in single user mode. (Unless I did something wrong) I'm having problems making world, It keeps crashing and I don't get a chance to see the screen before it re-boots and eats my source tree. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 23:27:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA20163 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 23:27:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA20153 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 23:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.Stanford.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA09485; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 23:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 23:25:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson Reply-To: Annelise Anderson To: Gary Chrysler cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: makeing world In-Reply-To: <31DDF6B3.3FC3@ime.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, Gary Chrysler wrote: > I read someplace that it's best to drop into single user mode > to make world, Is this fact? > > If so, How does one log the make process. > I would normally do: make |& tee make.err > This don't work in single user mode. (Unless I did something wrong) In single user mode you have to mount the swap partition(s) with swapon -a before you do the make world. I used make world >& make.out& to get a "make.out" file recording the process. I think I typed csh first; probably you would need to do that with the command you used as it's probably a csh command. However you can make world without going into single user mode...I'm not sure but I think the benefit of single-user mode is that there are fewer processes running to use swap. I thought it was rather interesting to not do it in single user mode because the machine could continue to serve web pages and allow me to log in from home and look at what was going on (or you could log in on another virtual terminal)-- I ran swapinfo now and then and did tail -f make.out to see what was going on. make.out ends up over 3.5 megabytes. vmstat might also be interesting (as well as ps axl) although I suppose pulling up the carrots to see how they're growing prolongs the process. I've only done this once and I imagine more knowledgeable people will have other comments-- Annelise > > I'm having problems making world, It keeps crashing and I don't > get a chance to see the screen before it re-boots and eats > my source tree. > > -Enjoy > Gary > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours > The Borg... Where minds meet > (207) 929-3848 > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Jul 5 23:34:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA20808 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 23:34:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (root@sasami.jurai.net [206.151.208.162]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA20801 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 23:34:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA11763; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 01:35:14 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 01:35:14 -0500 (CDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" X-Sender: winter@sasami To: John Fieber cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: When will Pine 3.94 be ported? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, John Fieber wrote: > On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Doug White wrote: > > Or is it necessary to port it? > A reputable source here indicates that 3.95 may be out very > shortly... Cool. | Matthew N. Dodd | winter@jurai.net | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | | Technical Manager | mdodd@intersurf.net | http://www.intersurf.net | | InterSurf Online | "Welcome to the net Sir, would you like a handbasket?"| From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 00:04:51 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA23976 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 00:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from loop.com (pma3_113.loop.com [207.17.84.113]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA23963 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 00:04:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (gif@localhost) by loop.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA00617; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 23:43:10 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 23:43:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Gifka Sovereign To: Ryan Cutter cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Changing prompt In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19960705154424.008cda38@ctgusa.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, Ryan Cutter wrote: > How can I change my prompt in FreeBSD to reflect the current > directory I'm in? Seeing that someone has already shown you how to do it in CSH, I'll give you the BASH answer: In $HOME/.profile type: PS1='$PWD ' You can do a: PS1='$PWD> ' To append a ">" after the pwd (return working directory name). From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 00:18:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA25175 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 00:18:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA25168 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 00:18:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id IAA20769; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 08:18:12 +0100 (BST) To: Michael Searle cc: questions@freefall.freebsd.org From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: C libraries In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 05 Jul 1996 20:24:18 -0000." Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 08:18:12 +0100 Message-ID: <20767.836637492@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Michael Searle wrote in message ID : > I have been having some problems getting C programs containing calls in > math.h to link - is there a special library I have to use? I wrote a test > program using sqrt(), but I get the same stuff for pow(), trig functions, > etc. I am using standard gcc 2.6.3 on FreeBSD 2.1R. Here is the test > program, the output I got from the linker, and my /usr/lib directory. Add `-lm' to the command line/ > Also, one of the programs also needed Motif (the Xm library) to compile. Is > there a free static version of the Motif library? (If so, where can I > download it from?) Motif is a commercial package. See http://www.Xinside.com/ for a supplier. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 00:29:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA26218 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 00:29:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA26200 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 00:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id IAA20843; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 08:29:01 +0100 (BST) To: Anil John cc: "'FreeBSD Questions'" From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Netscape & FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 05 Jul 1996 21:14:06 EDT." <01BB6AB6.E76D1B20@ppp21.bcpl.lib.md.us> Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 08:29:00 +0100 Message-ID: <20841.836638140@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anil John wrote in message ID <01BB6AB6.E76D1B20@ppp21.bcpl.lib.md.us>: > This is probably a !@#$@ question but here goes :) > Do you need to be running X in order to use Netscape with FreeBSD ? Yes Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 00:29:52 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA26259 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 00:29:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diablo.ppp.de (diablo.ppp.de [193.141.101.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA26252 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 00:29:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from allegro.lemis.de by diablo.ppp.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0ucRnS-000QeNC; Sat, 6 Jul 96 09:28 MET DST From: grog@lemis.de (Greg Lehey) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Phone: +49-6637-919123 Fax: +49-6637-919122 Received: (grog@localhost) by allegro.lemis.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) id JAA22326; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 09:00:10 +0200 Message-Id: <199607060700.JAA22326@allegro.lemis.de> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1 Help To: skrishna@cisco.com (Sridhar Krishnan) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 09:00:10 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD Questions) In-Reply-To: from "Sridhar Krishnan" at Jul 5, 96 05:38:07 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sridhar Krishnan writes: > >> I don't know if this should work. I personally use cu for this sort >> of thing >> >> $ cu -s 38400 -l /dev/cuaa0 >> > > I tried, and it does not seem to work. The device is properly configured. > I even deleted cuaa0 and re-added using /dev/MAKEDEV. the tun0 is all set > up. I set up the ppp according to the handbook. Help! What goes wrong? > I have one othe question regarding "fvwm". What do I set before getting > it to work ? What should be my display ? I tried setting up in /etc/ttys > and it did not work. What did you put in /etc/ttys? If you can start X, you just need to start /usr/X11/bin/fvwm as well, after installing it (see page 97 of The Book). You can put the start in your .xinit file, but that's not essential, just a good idea. When you start it up, it should come with a whole lot of clients pre-configured, but one way or another you're going to have to read the man page. Greg From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 00:42:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA27482 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 00:42:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from loop.com (pma3_113.loop.com [207.17.84.113]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA27476 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 00:42:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (gif@localhost) by loop.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA00711; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 00:21:00 -0700 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 00:20:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Gifka Sovereign To: Chuck Robey cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Matsushita cdrom In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, Chuck Robey wrote: > I have no experience with the matcd device (I assume that's the right one > for use with the Soundblaster 16), since I run all-scsi. Does anyone > know what cdrom player software will work with it? If I want file access > to the cdrom, what /dev/--- device do I ask MAKEDEV to build for me? Do > I mount it with mount -type cd9660 like I would the /dev/cd0a device? What do you mean by "cdrom player software"? Do a MAKEDEV matcd0 to make the devices. To access the drive you would do a: mount -t cd9660 /dev/matcd0a /cdrom From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 00:59:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA29853 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 00:59:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA29838 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 00:59:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id IAA21025; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 08:59:04 +0100 (BST) To: Gifka Sovereign cc: Chuck Robey , FreeBSD Questions From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Matsushita cdrom In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 06 Jul 1996 00:20:59 PDT." Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 08:59:03 +0100 Message-ID: <21023.836639943@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gifka Sovereign wrote in message ID : > On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, Chuck Robey wrote: > What do you mean by "cdrom player software"? He is referring to audio player software. And I also have a feeling he's not altogether correct... there are a set of IOCTL's for handling audio playing of CD's, and it's probably more that not all the non-SCSI device drivers handle the ioctl's properly (I'm no expert on this though). Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 01:46:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA07265 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 01:46:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from burzet.alma.fr (ns.alma.fr [194.2.236.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA07235 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 01:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from khany.alma.fr (khany.alma.fr [194.2.236.62]) by burzet.alma.fr (8.7.5/96040601) with SMTP id KAA15283 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 10:45:43 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199607060845.KAA15283@burzet.alma.fr> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Alain Thivillon" To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 10:45:24 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [Network] PPPD ou User PPP ? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.40) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, I'm trying to configure my FreeBSD server (HP LC 64/2Go, FreeBSD 2.1) to serve as a PPP server for my remote users. I want the following behaviour : - no login shell started, direct CHAP authentification - remote IP address choosed by remote adressing for some users, and server adressing for others one (to allow someday packet filtering : some users should be able to access local machines/services, others no) What is the best choice for this : kernel PPPD ou user mode PPP ? In fact, i want to reintroduce the behaviour that i have with Morning Star on my old Sparc 1/Sun OS 4.1.3 Can i start ppp directly from /etc/ttys (whithout getty) ? I have no luck whith this, because i always have a login prompt , even if i add lo=/usr/sbin/ppp -direct [someusers] in /etc/gettytab. I have read the handbook, FAQ and others documents, but there is no relay good advice on "server side" PPP. Futhermore, when my 2 standard serial ports will be used, what is the best choice for adding 4 or 8 input (Digiboard ?) Thanks in advance, excuse me for my poor English :-) Yours sincerly, -- Alain Thivillon -+- Alain.Thivillon@alma.fr -+- Alma, Grenoble From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 03:01:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA14737 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 03:01:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA14716; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 03:01:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA27135 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5); Sat, 6 Jul 1996 03:00:23 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id BAA06119; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 01:18:52 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607060818.BAA06119@starshine> Subject: Re: SysAdmin Tools - ideas wanted To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 01:18:51 -0700 (PDT) Cc: gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG, ron@infi.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199607052057.NAA15501@phaeton.artisoft.com> from "Terry Lambert" at Jul 5, 96 01:57:49 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Hrm. I have a bunch of mail sat in my mailbox on this subject. It's a > > very interesting subject to deal with properly. I think I can say now > > that you're heading down the wrong road. A tcl/tk front end, while > > nice, doesn't provide the facilities needed IMHO, unless you TOTALLY > > separate the tcl end out so that it can be run standalone from the > > command line, and in a batch operation mode (i.e. non-interactive). > > Yes yes yes. I'd prefer to see an implementation that provided the front-end and had that front end build a command line (or series of command lines). Then the interface could allow the admin to look at the command-line (did my menu selections translate to the sort of command I would have used?) allow verification or editing and it can log the commands that were issued. This has the advantage of allowing the new admin to use the friendly interface; while showing him or here what the correspondng commands are. It also allows good auditing (throught the log files) and allows the admin to cut and paste command sequences out (i.e. add one user through the interface and use the generate commands and some editing macros or text scripts to build a script that performs the other four hundred additions). This also has the considerable advantage of ensuring that no features creep into the UI/admin tool that have no corresponding commandline method and permitting exellent quality assurance (over *what **exactly** was done!*). > The GUI/text/sysadm/etc. front end should be totally seperate from > the database manipulation tools invoked to back-end the administration. Not separate -- build "in front of" (from which we get the term "front end"). > > I'd like to see one program for a front end, and multiple tools > that get invoked as a result of front end manipulation. > > Tcl/tk are OK for the fornt end tool, but not the backend implementation. Some parts of the back end might be implemented as 'expect' scripts. > > If you want to wait a few days, I can start up an e-mail dialogue with > > you on this ... I'm a bit busy working on the release of 2.1.5 at the > > minute. > > Jordan has some stuff to say on this as well (I assume he's busy too). > > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers. I find this disclaimer amusing since you seem to be posting from your own domain. BTW: This is my new home (formerly of McAfee Associates). 'starshine.org' has been created for Heather (my fiancee) and I to indulge our hobby and advocation (which is coincidentally a profession for each of us). Over the next couple of weeks I'll be playing with the uucp configuration here (have mail working -- news and file xfers are next), creating some web pages (virtually hosted -- http://www.starshine.org, of course) and ftp site (ftp://ftp.starshine.org) doing some research and programming (specifically brushing up on my perl -- especially taint and suid perl techniques for cgi and administrative automation), and teaching myself some Java. After a couple of weeks I might be available for some contracting and consulting projects (I've already got some offers and I've been approach by some prospective full-time employers -- gosh I love living in the $ilicon Valley). Please note: If you have a project that I might find interesting -- drop me a line -- I'll be doing some projects for free (only requirements are that they be *interesting* and *worthy* -- i.e. beneficial to the common good). I think the first order of business is to get FreeBSD on this box, to replace this aging Slackware/Linux distribution. Jim Dennis, former System Administrator, McAfee Associates From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 04:05:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA18094 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 04:05:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hustle.rahul.net (hustle.rahul.net [192.160.13.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA18074 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 04:04:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA00367 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for questions@FreeBSD.org); Sat, 6 Jul 1996 04:04:20 -0700 Received: (from jim@localhost) by starshine (8.6.11/8.6.9) id CAA06354; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 02:22:49 -0700 From: Jim Dennis Message-Id: <199607060922.CAA06354@starshine> Subject: Re: Changing prompt To: gif@loop.com (Gifka Sovereign) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 02:22:48 -0700 (PDT) Cc: rcutter@ctgusa.com, questions@FreeBSD.org, jadestar@rahul.net In-Reply-To: from "Gifka Sovereign" at Jul 5, 96 11:43:08 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, Ryan Cutter wrote: > > How can I change my prompt in FreeBSD to reflect the current > > directory I'm in? > Seeing that someone has already shown you how to do it in CSH, I'll give > you the BASH answer: > In $HOME/.profile type: PS1='$PWD ' > You can do a: PS1='$PWD> ' You could but bash offers much better options. BASH Prompt Mini-HOWTO You could use PS1='\w' or PS1='\w>' or PS1='\W' etc (depends on whether you want a full path or just the tail of the working path). Here's my favorite: PS1='\! \h:\w\$' Which translates to: Current history number (handy for !-xxx subsititions) Current hostname Current working path "Proper" prompt = '#' for root or '$' for any other user If you wanted to go overboard you could use: PS1='\# \d \t\n\! \u@\h:\w\$' Which uses all but a couple of the bash "PROMPTING" meta characters. It produces output like: 112 Sat Jul 6 02:32:55 1502 jim@starhome:~/Mail$ (The number of this command within this session, the date, the time, my current user name, host, and directory, and the tradition '$'|'#' depending on my user status). The only ones I left out are the \s (shell's base name) and \[\] (non-printing character, for terminal control sequences) \xxx (octal? -- arbitrary ASCII character) and \\ (for a literal 'backslash' If you *really* want to have fun look at the man page entry for bash and read about the $PROMPT_COMMAND variable -- you can set that to a custom program to be executed prior to each issuance of your prompt. (One practical application for that might be to set the EXINIT variable depending on whether you're in a "safe" directory or not -- to prevent the old .exrc exploit but still allowing you to have custom .exrc files for some directories). From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 04:26:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA18837 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 04:26:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA18832 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 04:26:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ad14749; 6 Jul 96 11:25 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa17812; 6 Jul 96 12:23 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA04742; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 00:42:28 GMT Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 00:42:28 GMT Message-Id: <199607060042.AAA04742@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: white@tehama.engr.ucdavis.edu CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <9607052152.AA15526@tehama.engr.ucdavis.edu> (white@tehama.engr.ucdavis.edu) Subject: Re: Problem with ft on tape backup. Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [A number of ft-related problems] The ft driver is known to need some serious work done on it, but it seems to have become "orphaned". Apparently it's not exactly a very friendly device to write drivers for - no less than three people have rolled up their sleeves, determined to finally get it sorted out, only to give up in despair. Sadly this is a weakness in free software - if the only reward for doing something is the enjoyment gained from doing it, there is very little incentive to do things which are not enjoyable. :-( If anyone does fancy having a go at it, Linux has a working driver which could perhaps be used as a base for an upgrade (so I'm told). The other possibility is paying someone to write one, but I suppose most people with floppy tapes would have bought something else if they could afford this kind of thing... > Also, one last thing, is this the type of thing one would submit as > a bug or not. I have not yet done so, but can file a bug report if > people think that it fits the area of problem reports. The "unrecoverable write error" certainly fits the bill. I'm not so sure about the other one, but if you're fairly certain it wasn't "pilot error", by all means add it to the report. > Sorry this is so long. Thanks in advance for any help. Sorry this isn't very helpful. :-( -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 04:56:00 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA21513 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 04:56:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA21502 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 04:55:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id MAA21553; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 12:46:03 +0100 (BST) To: "Brian J. McGovern" cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Interface info... In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Jul 1996 00:36:17 EDT." <199607040436.AAA13070@spoon.beta.com> Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 12:46:02 +0100 Message-ID: <21551.836653562@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Brian J. McGovern" wrote in message ID <199607040436.AAA13070@spoon.beta.com>: > Are there any prebuilt functions for looking at the packet info of an > Ethernet interface (a la netstat)? Just curious, as i can look at the > filesystem(s) with fsstat. Thanks. Define ``looking at the packet info'' please. You can ``sniff'' the ethernet with tcpdump, and `netstat -ib' gives packet & byte counters on a per-interface basis. `netstat -a -finet' gives all open sockets on the system (including `server' sockets which are listening for incoming connections). If you are looking for an association socket <-> process, look at `netstat -A' and then you can match the PCB address with that reported by `fstat'. (e.g. from my machine) : root@palmer:/> netstat -A Active Internet connections PCB Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address (state) f0877000 tcp 0 0 localhost.ppp localhost.xinupage ESTABLISHED f0883800 tcp 0 0 localhost.xinupage localhost.ppp ESTABLISHED root@palmer:/> fstat | grep f0883800 gary telnet 14908 3* internet stream tcp f0883800 root@palmer:/> That is about all the information that is ``readily'' available on ethernet type interfaces and the `packet information'. If you use `trafshow' from ports, you can get some sort of display of active traffic on your local ethernet segment, but I haven't actually used this myself. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 04:56:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id EAA21604 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 04:56:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA21599 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 04:56:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id MAA21585; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 12:54:01 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199607061154.MAA21585@palmer.demon.co.uk> To: Terry Lambert cc: ALHACK@am.pnu.com, questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Caldera Linux In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Jul 1996 20:16:06 PDT." <199607040316.UAA12045@phaeton.artisoft.com> Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 12:54:00 +0100 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert wrote in message ID <199607040316.UAA12045@phaeton.artisoft.com>: > > No, I don't think it should go in ... full elf support makes quite a > > few changes in the system, and the latest -current linux emulator even > > more (and that is needed if you want to run quake). So it's a no-go, > > not this close to a release. > Well, then I'll call it a mistake to have not considered it before > it was this close to release... 8-(. It was considered when it was first committed, and I agreed at the time (and still do) that the improved Linux emulator belongs in -current, and not in -stable. The original commit for the improved linux emulator was: peter 96/03/02 11:38:21 Modified: sys/conf files sys/i386/conf LINT Makefile.i386 files.i386 options.i386 sys/i386/i386 exception.s locore.s machdep.c trap.c sys/i386/ibcs2 ibcs2_sysvec.c ibcs2_util.h sys/i386/include md_var.h pcb.h sys/i386/linux imgact_linux.c linux.h linux_dummy.c linux_file.c linux_ioctl.c linux_ipc.c linux_misc.c linux_signal.c linux_socket.c linux_stats.c linux_sysent.c sys/kern imgact_aout.c init_sysent.c kern_exec.c kern_sig.c makesyscalls.sh sys/sys exec.h signal.h signalvar.h sysent.h Added: sys/i386/linux linux_genassym.c linux_locore.s linux_proto.h linux_syscall.h linux_sysvec.c linux_util.c linux_util.h sys/kern init_sysvec.c Removed: sys/i386/linux linux_generic.c sysproto.h [massive log message deleted]. See the number of non-linux related files touched? Since then there have been countless bug fixes for various aspects of the `emulator', and with the different VM (etc) structures in -current and -stable, I wouldn't have recommended anyone try back-porting this. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 05:39:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA23436 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 05:39:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.microtronic.de (root@[194.64.170.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA23425 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 05:39:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from us@localhost) by ns.microtronic.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id OAA16776; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 14:38:19 +0200 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 14:38:19 +0200 (MET DST) From: Ulf Schmidt To: Question freeBSD Subject: HELP: 3COM Etherlink III Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am trying to install FreeBSD 2.1.0 via ftp using the network card 3COM Etherlink III PCI (3c590). The handbook says it is supported, but I can't get the installation to recognize it. The kernel handbook doesn't mention the card either. Please help. Thanx, Ulf From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 06:26:07 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA24999 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 06:26:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA24994 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 06:26:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id OAA21955; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 14:24:25 +0100 (BST) To: Ulf Schmidt cc: Question freeBSD From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: HELP: 3COM Etherlink III In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 06 Jul 1996 14:38:19 +0200." Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 14:24:24 +0100 Message-ID: <21953.836659464@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ulf Schmidt wrote in message ID : > Hi, > I am trying to install FreeBSD 2.1.0 via ftp using the network card > 3COM Etherlink III PCI (3c590). The handbook says it is supported, but > I can't get the installation to recognize it. The kernel handbook doesn't > mention the card either. The device driver for the 3c590 (if_vx) didn't exist in FreeBSD until AFTER 2.1.0-RELEASE was cut (the logs say it came in at the end of January, the release was done December year). Either wait for the 2.1.5-RELEASE (in the next week or so) or use the 2.1.0-SNAP if you can't wait, as both have the relevant device driver in them. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 06:45:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA25586 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 06:45:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.microtronic.de (root@[194.64.170.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA25581; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 06:45:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from us@localhost) by ns.microtronic.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA16855; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 15:43:57 +0200 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 15:43:56 +0200 (MET DST) From: Ulf Schmidt To: Gary Palmer cc: Question freeBSD Subject: Re: HELP: 3COM Etherlink III In-Reply-To: <21953.836659464@palmer.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Gary, thanks for the _fast_ answer. Is it enough to get the boot image from the 2.1.0-SNAP, or do I have to download the complete new distribution? And how good are the chances of 2.1.5 being released in the next 14 days? Regards, Ulf On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, Gary Palmer wrote: > Ulf Schmidt wrote in message ID > : > > Hi, > > I am trying to install FreeBSD 2.1.0 via ftp using the network card > > 3COM Etherlink III PCI (3c590). The handbook says it is supported, but > > I can't get the installation to recognize it. The kernel handbook doesn't > > mention the card either. > > The device driver for the 3c590 (if_vx) didn't exist in FreeBSD until > AFTER 2.1.0-RELEASE was cut (the logs say it came in at the end of > January, the release was done December year). Either wait for the > 2.1.5-RELEASE (in the next week or so) or use the 2.1.0-SNAP if you > can't wait, as both have the relevant device driver in them. > > Gary > -- > Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member > FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info > From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 06:45:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id GAA25612 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 06:45:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA25602 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 06:45:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ae19489; 6 Jul 96 13:45 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa17781; 6 Jul 96 12:23 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA04750; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 00:47:10 GMT Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 00:47:10 GMT Message-Id: <199607060047.AAA04750@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: mike@networx.ie CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Michael Ryan on Fri, 5 Jul 1996 19:46:43 BST) Subject: Re: SCSI timeout on HP 2GB DAT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm doing a backup to a HP SureStore 2000 2GB DAT drive > attached to an Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI adapter on a > FreeBSD 2.1 120MHz Pentium, from a remote machine on the > network. > > The file ~tape/.rhosts on tapehost is okay. The backup > runs fine, until around 92MB is transferred, then the > following error messages appear on the console and the > backup aborts. > > Anybody got any ideas what's wrong? This is a bug in the 2940 driver in 2.1.0R - I get the same thing with large CD transfers on my system. A number of bugs in this driver have been fixed for 2.1.5, which should be out this month. > Kernel error messages: > st0(ahc0:3:0): NOT READY asc:4,1 > st0(ahc0:3:0): Logical unit is in process of becoming ready > ahc0: target 3, lun 0 (st0) timed out > st0(ahc0:3:0): BUS DEVICE RESET message queued. > ahc0: target 3, lun 0 (st0) timed out > st0(ahc0:3:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:28,0 > st0(ahc0:3:0): Not ready to ready transition, medium may have changed > ahc0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset #1. 1 SCBs aborted > st0(ahc0:3:0): UNIT ATTENTION asc:29,0 > st0(ahc0:3:0): Power on, reset, or bus device reset occurred -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 07:05:35 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA26277 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 07:05:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA26272 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 07:05:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-20.ime.net [206.231.148.149]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA18598; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 10:05:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31DE72C9.394B@ime.net> Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 10:06:01 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Annelise Anderson CC: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: makeing world References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Annelise Anderson wrote: > > On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, Gary Chrysler wrote: > > > I read someplace that it's best to drop into single user mode > > to make world, Is this fact? > > > > If so, How does one log the make process. > > I would normally do: make |& tee make.err > > This don't work in single user mode. (Unless I did something wrong) > > In single user mode you have to mount the swap partition(s) with > swapon -a > before you do the make world. > Ok Thanks. All I did was: shutdown now, make world. this time. So far it has been going for ~9 hours, Hopefully it will not eat my source tree this time. I did not do: swapon -a Does this mean that it's working soley in memory now?? Maybe thats why it's taking so long, I've only got 8megs in this 486DX-33 system. :( I have saved your suggestions, and will look into thier uses on the next make world. Thank you. > > I used make world >& make.out& to get a "make.out" file recording > the process. I think I typed csh first; probably you would need > to do that with the command you used as it's probably a csh command. > > However you can make world without going into single user mode...I'm > not sure but I think the benefit of single-user mode is that there > are fewer processes running to use swap. I thought it was rather > interesting to not do it in single user mode because the machine could > continue to serve web pages and allow me to log in from home and look > at what was going on (or you could log in on another virtual terminal)-- > I ran swapinfo now and then and did tail -f make.out to see what was > going on. make.out ends up over 3.5 megabytes. vmstat might also be > interesting (as well as ps axl) although I suppose pulling up the > carrots to see how they're growing prolongs the process. > Welp, I have no users (private system), So I'm not concerned about serving anything, Although it would be nice to be able to access the system while it's building, There is no NEED for it! My hopes are that it at least completes without eating my source tree again. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 07:36:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA07417 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 07:36:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebsd.gaffaneys.com ([134.129.252.26]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA07359 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 07:35:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from zach@localhost) by freebsd.gaffaneys.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA05026; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 09:36:18 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: What's up with ownership? From: Zach Heilig Date: 06 Jul 1996 09:36:17 -0500 Message-ID: <87n31da1pa.fsf@freebsd.gaffaneys.com> Lines: 19 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.2.32/Emacs 19.31 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there any reason why files I create in /tmp (group owned by bin) are also group owned by bin? I only ask because I get the annoying message: $ mv /tmp/somefile ~ mv: ./somefile: set owner/group: Operation not permitted It seems like a security risk to be able to create a file in a random world writable directory, and have it created with a gid other than one I belong to. I remember the old unix behavior when the directory had to have the setgid bit on for files/directories created in it be have the same gid as the directory. Are files created in a directory supposed to have the same gid as the directory (when the directory doesn't have the setgid bit on), or does FreeBSD have a bug? -- Zach Heilig (zach@blizzard.gaffaneys.com) Support bacteria -- it's the only culture some people have! ALL unsolicited >commercial< email is subject to a $100 proof-reading fee. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 07:40:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA09389 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 07:40:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home.lenzi ([200.247.23.205]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA09309 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 07:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lenzi@localhost) by home.lenzi (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA07945; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 10:14:56 GMT Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 10:14:55 +0000 () From: "Lenzi, Sergio" X-Sender: lenzi@home To: Martin Loeffler cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19960705142437.00af0220@mailbox1.utcc.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, Martin Loeffler wrote: > > Pardon my ignorance, but can someone clue me in on how to install the crypt > libraries for FreeBSD v2.1 so that I can compile qpopper v2.2? > > Thanks very much, > Hello Martin. Just add -lcrypt to the link stage of the Makefile. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 07:44:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA11826 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 07:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home.lenzi ([200.247.23.205]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA11594 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 07:43:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lenzi@localhost) by home.lenzi (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA07901; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 09:52:40 GMT Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 09:52:39 +0000 () From: "Lenzi, Sergio" X-Sender: lenzi@home To: Chuck Robey cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, tinman@cco.net, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Windows and DOS for Free BSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Any reason you'd want to punish yourself by running DOS programs under > > FreeBSD? > > Unfortunately, yes. Engineering classes here require matlab, which > unfortunately is a dos beast. I'd LOVE to be able to run it (or Mathcad, > even better) under FreeBSD. > Hello all! I have the same problem HERE, people wanting to use math... I ask a polish math professor, and he presented me to GP PARI. I see the program working, it's Free and Fantastic, plot graphics, multiple precision math, unlimited user space, and very, very FAST. Hope this will help. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 07:46:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA13216 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 07:46:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from titan.cs.mci.com (titan.cs.mci.com [166.37.12.241]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA13184 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 07:46:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by titan.cs.mci.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/24Jan96-1045PM) id AA19573; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 08:46:46 -0600 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 08:46:46 -0600 (MDT) From: "Thomas S. Traylor" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: How do you write to an executable (binary)? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Here's what I'm trying to do: I have a program that will prompt the user for a value. I would like to write that value to the executable (binary) file. (Using open, lseek, write, close) Problem: When I open the file I get the following error: "Error: Text file busy". The message number is [ETXTBSY]. I'm able to do this with other OS. How can I get this to work with FreeBSD? Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Tom -- Thomas Traylor Thomas.Traylor@mci.com tst@titan.cs.mci.com (719) 535-1269 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 08:08:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA18267 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 08:08:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from isgate.is (isgate.is [193.4.58.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA18261 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 08:08:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hummer.islandia.is by isgate.is (8.7.5-M/ISnet/14-10-91); Sat, 6 Jul 1996 15:08:35 GMT Received: from hummer.islandia.is by hummer.islandia.is (8.6.12/ISnet/12-09-94); Sat, 6 Jul 1996 15:09:02 GMT Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 15:09:02 +0000 (GMT) From: Stefan Thor Hreinsson To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Cyclades 16Ye and PPP Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello. I'm having a problem with using Cyclades multicomm board with ppp, the thing is that when I dial in on it with ppp it connects the ppp proccess ok but when I hang up the ppp proccess keeps running. This does not happen with a modem connected to ttyd0, then the proccess terminates and everything is normal. So after eliminating the cables, modems, the ppp itself I come down to the fact that this has something to do with the Cyclades unit. I am running is 2.1 Release. Oh and connecting with slip on the card works just fine. Regards Stefan Thor Hreinsson. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 08:24:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA19027 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 08:24:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (palmer.demon.co.uk [158.152.50.150]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA19016 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 08:24:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from palmer.demon.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by palmer.demon.co.uk (sendmail/PALMER-2) with ESMTP id QAA22150; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 16:24:26 +0100 (BST) To: Ulf Schmidt cc: Question freeBSD From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: HELP: 3COM Etherlink III In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 06 Jul 1996 15:43:56 +0200." Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 16:24:25 +0100 Message-ID: <22148.836666665@palmer.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ulf Schmidt wrote in message ID : > Hi Gary, > thanks for the _fast_ answer. Is it enough to get the boot image from the > 2.1.0-SNAP, or do I have to download the complete new distribution? > And how good are the chances of 2.1.5 being released in the next 14 days? In reverse order: 2.1.5-RELEASE should (note: SHOULD) be out in the next week, if the remaining niggling problems with the install s/w can be ironed out. Almost everything else is ready to roll (there are some niggles in the ports too, but they should be ironed out by the end of the weekend). To reply to your query about the boot floppy, you possibly COULD do that (I believe there is a feature which allows you to specify where to get the data from), but it'll mean that you'll end up with an installed system which still doesn't have the if_vx ethernet driver (the installed kernel comes from the bin dist as the kernel on the boot floppy is quite badly ``mangled'' to make it a boot floppy). So you'd probably be better waiting to see if we can get 2.1.5 out this week as planned. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 08:27:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA19224 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 08:27:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kalypso.iqm.unicamp.br (kalypso.iqm.unicamp.br [143.106.13.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA19213 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 08:27:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from vazquez@localhost) by kalypso.iqm.unicamp.br (8.7.5/8.6.12/FreeBSD2.1) id MAA15014; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 12:27:23 GMT From: Pedro A M Vazquez Message-Id: <199607061227.MAA15014@kalypso.iqm.unicamp.br> Subject: Re: Windows and DOS for Free BSD To: lenzi@cwbone.bsi.com.br (Lenzi, Sergio) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 12:27:23 +0000 () Cc: chuckr@Glue.umd.edu, dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, tinman@cco.net, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Lenzi, Sergio" at Jul 6, 96 09:52:39 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello Sergio Do you have an URL fro GP PARI? An regards matlab, haven't you all tried octave? Pedro Lenzi, Sergio said: > > > > Any reason you'd want to punish yourself by running DOS programs under > > > FreeBSD? > > > > Unfortunately, yes. Engineering classes here require matlab, which > > unfortunately is a dos beast. I'd LOVE to be able to run it (or Mathcad, > > even better) under FreeBSD. > > > Hello all! > > I have the same problem HERE, people wanting to use math... I ask a > polish math professor, and he presented me to GP PARI. > I see the program working, it's Free and Fantastic, plot graphics, > multiple precision math, unlimited user space, and very, very FAST. > > > Hope this will help. > From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 08:39:58 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA19961 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 08:39:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po1.glue.umd.edu (po1.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA19934 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 08:39:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fiber.eng.umd.edu (fiber.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.185]) by po1.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05003; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 11:39:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by fiber.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA16520; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 11:39:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 11:39:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@fiber.eng.umd.edu To: "Lenzi, Sergio" cc: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, tinman@cco.net, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Windows and DOS for Free BSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, Lenzi, Sergio wrote: > > > Any reason you'd want to punish yourself by running DOS programs under > > > FreeBSD? > > > > Unfortunately, yes. Engineering classes here require matlab, which > > unfortunately is a dos beast. I'd LOVE to be able to run it (or Mathcad, > > even better) under FreeBSD. > > > Hello all! > > I have the same problem HERE, people wanting to use math... I ask a > polish math professor, and he presented me to GP PARI. > I see the program working, it's Free and Fantastic, plot graphics, > multiple precision math, unlimited user space, and very, very FAST. Sounds interesting (although it won't directly help me, you don't get a choice as to which software to run) but it would have been nicer if you'd included a pointer as to where GP PARI is .... > > > Hope this will help. > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 08:44:01 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA20222 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 08:44:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po1.glue.umd.edu (po1.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA20206 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 08:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fiber.eng.umd.edu (fiber.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.185]) by po1.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05017; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 11:43:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by fiber.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA16575; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 11:43:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 11:43:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@fiber.eng.umd.edu To: Pedro A M Vazquez cc: lenzi@cwbone.bsi.com.br, dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu, tinman@cco.net, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Windows and DOS for Free BSD In-Reply-To: <199607061227.MAA15014@kalypso.iqm.unicamp.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, Pedro A M Vazquez wrote: > Hello Sergio > Do you have an URL fro GP PARI? An regards matlab, haven't you > all tried octave? > > Pedro You seem to have missed the part where I said "Engineering classes require matlab". I have Octave, I've used it for myself, but not for engineering or math classes (which require Mathematica, just to show they're damn stubborn). The keyword here is require, it's not up to me. > > Lenzi, Sergio said: > > > > > > Any reason you'd want to punish yourself by running DOS programs under > > > > FreeBSD? > > > > > > Unfortunately, yes. Engineering classes here require matlab, which > > > unfortunately is a dos beast. I'd LOVE to be able to run it (or Mathcad, > > > even better) under FreeBSD. > > > > > Hello all! > > > > I have the same problem HERE, people wanting to use math... I ask a > > polish math professor, and he presented me to GP PARI. > > I see the program working, it's Free and Fantastic, plot graphics, > > multiple precision math, unlimited user space, and very, very FAST. > > > > > > Hope this will help. > > > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 08:47:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA20399 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 08:47:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from louie.udel.edu (louie.udel.edu [128.175.1.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA20394 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 08:47:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snow-white.ee.udel.edu by louie.udel.edu id aa02457; 6 Jul 96 11:47 EDT Received: from stimpy.eecis.udel.edu by snow-white.ee.udel.edu id aa19651; 6 Jul 96 11:47 EDT Received: from snow-white.ee.udel.edu by stimpy.eecis.udel.edu id aa12275; 6 Jul 96 15:47 GMT To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Port of Binutils 2.6? Organization: Mos Eisley Candy Store MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <12270.836668028.1@louie.udel.edu> Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 11:47:08 -0400 From: Jerry Alexandratos Message-ID: <9607061547.aa12275@stimpy.eecis.udel.edu> Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk All this talk about porting has got me wondering. Is there a port of GNU binutils-2.6 running around out there? I know that some of the older binutils are in /usr/src/gnu, but anything for the binutils package specifically? If not, has anyone had any experience with this? How well does it compile out of the box? Where should I look to patch it? Etc... In case anyone is wondering, I'm using 2.1.0 on a P75. I just installed the new gcc-2.7.2p as well. If you need more info please let me know. Thanks in advance... --Jerry 8) Jerry Alexandratos % - % "Nothing inhabits my (8 8) alexandr@louie.udel.edu % - % thoughts, and oblivion (8 8) darkstar@strauss.udel.edu % - % drives my desires." (8 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 09:00:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA21043 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 09:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA21011 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 08:59:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA18828; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 08:59:44 -0700 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 08:59:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Babak Sehari cc: questions@FreeBsd.org Subject: Re: Can I use Linux driver of my CD ROM with FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <9607060245.AA15123@eng3.iastate.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, Babak Sehari wrote: > I have an old CD ROM that is controlled by a card CM 250. There is a > linux driver for it. Would such driver work with FreeBSD? Don't think so. > My second question is how to make up arrow and down arrow to work with > history. That is when you press uparrow you get the previous command. Use the shells 'tcsh' or 'bash'. > Finally, how can I make ^D to logout in non root directory. Note that > ^D log me out from the root directory but not from user account. There is a setting that disables this type of logout. I don't know what it is though. Just use 'exit' to log out of shells. (It's just as well, it keeps you from accidenally logging yourself out when trying to quit a program.) Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 09:07:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA21390 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 09:07:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA21384 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 09:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA18878; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 09:07:08 -0700 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 09:07:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Iwan Leonardus cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dial in In-Reply-To: <31DC941B.41C67EA6@vision.net.id> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, Iwan Leonardus wrote: > when I set ttyd1 speed to std.115200 at /etc/ttys and after I 'kill -1 1' there is > an error message: > init: getty repeating too quickly on port /dev/ttyd1, sleeping 30 secs > The message do not appear when I set speed to std.57600 > > Is that because my port can not handle that kind of speed or I dont have the > CPU power to handle that? I would guess that your computer or modem can't handle that kind of speed. If 57600 works then stick with it. 14.4 modems can't handle anything above 57600. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 09:22:27 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA22181 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 09:22:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA22173 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 09:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA18956; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 09:22:07 -0700 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 09:22:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: Michael Richardson cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installing on a Compaq Contura Aero 4/33 In-Reply-To: <199607051857.OAA22054@milkyway.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, Michael Richardson wrote: > I managed to get the 2.1-960627-SNAP kernel (boot4) to boot on this system. > If I add -c to the boot flags, and remove the PCMCIA floppy drive and > insert my etherlink III card, I can recognize it, partition the hard disk, > and attempt to install. This is going to be the way you'll have to install. If your network has inet access then you should be able to do an ftp install from ftp.freebsd.org, or from a mounted cd on a local machine. > If I try to install from floppy, (leaving the floppy connected the whole > time), I am informed that the machine does not have a floppy drive. On boot up, > I see fdc0, but no fd0 found. Welcome to compaq, the proprietary software company. :( Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 09:47:45 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA23267 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 09:47:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA23259 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 09:47:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ah10616; 6 Jul 96 16:47 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa10643; 6 Jul 96 17:46 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA00957; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 12:10:03 GMT Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 12:10:03 GMT Message-Id: <199607061210.MAA00957@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: sehari@iastate.edu CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <9607060245.AA15123@eng3.iastate.edu> (message from Babak Sehari on Fri, 05 Jul 1996 21:45:36 CDT) Subject: Re: Can I use Linux driver of my CD ROM with FreeBSD? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have an old CD ROM that is controlled by a card CM 250. There is a > linux driver for it. Would such driver work with FreeBSD? Not without quite a bit of work. There are probably one or two people here who could do the work, but they're unlikely to have the card to test it on... If you're a good C programmer, and you fancy having something impressive to put on your CV, have a look at the tutorial on writing device drivers; it's at http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/ > My second question is how to make up arrow and down arrow to work with > history. That is when you press uparrow you get the previous command. There isn't any way to do this in the C shell, which is what the installation gives you. If you install the bash or pdksh packages, and do 'chsh -s' to change your login shell, this should work automatically (I presume it'll also work for tcsh, but I've never used that). > Finally, how can I make ^D to logout in non root directory. Note that > ^D log me out from the root directory but not from user account. Find the line in ~/.cshrc relating to setignoreeof and comment it out like so:- # set ignoreeof This is a csh/tcsh peculiarity - if you switch to bash or ksh, ^D will automatically log you out. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 09:49:39 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA23368 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 09:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA23363 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 09:49:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ad11318; 6 Jul 96 16:49 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa10635; 6 Jul 96 17:46 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA01019; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 13:28:24 GMT Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 13:28:24 GMT Message-Id: <199607061328.NAA01019@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: tcg@ime.net CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <31DDEA94.2B74@ime.net> (message from Gary Chrysler on Sat, 06 Jul 1996 00:24:52 -0400) Subject: Re: Ports suggestion Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Something I find very very annoying as a Newbie. > pkg_add a package, It drops ya right back to the prompt without > a clue on what to do next! Yep, this is "the Unix way" - you only get a message if the user needs to be informed about something unusual (a program working correctly is not regarded as unusual under Unix :-) > How about requiring a small message displayed with at least > "see man xxxxx for further details" or "See pkg_info " "man xxxxx" is a standard Unix-ism for finding out how to use something; Unix programs generally assume that the user knows how to use Unix :-) If the package has some information in a different place, then I would certainly agree that there should be a message to that effect, eg "Sample configuration files for the gronkleblaster are in the /usr/local/share/gronkleblaster directory. These need to be customised for your site before attempting to run the gronkleblaster." The "See pkg_info" information should really go in the Handbook entry on packages (has anyone got round to writing one yet?) as it's the same for all packages. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 09:52:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA23527 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 09:52:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA23521 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 09:52:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ag11351; 6 Jul 96 16:52 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa10588; 6 Jul 96 17:46 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA00995; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 13:04:21 GMT Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 13:04:21 GMT Message-Id: <199607061304.NAA00995@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: ajohn@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <01BB6AB6.E76D1B20@ppp21.bcpl.lib.md.us> (message from Anil John on Fri, 5 Jul 1996 21:14:06 -0400) Subject: Re: Netscape & FreeBSD Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > This is probably a !@#$@ question but here goes :) > Do you need to be running X in order to use Netscape with FreeBSD ? Yes. If you want a text-mode browser, lynx is good (it can even download graphics to view later). If it's the flashy "extras" you're after, you're probably stuck. -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 10:02:08 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA24060 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 10:02:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA24055 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 10:02:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ae14949; 6 Jul 96 17:01 GMT Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa10612; 6 Jul 96 17:46 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA01105; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 13:58:32 GMT Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 13:58:32 GMT Message-Id: <199607061358.NAA01105@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: tcg@ime.net CC: questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <31DDF6B3.3FC3@ime.net> (message from Gary Chrysler on Sat, 06 Jul 1996 01:16:35 -0400) Subject: Re: makeing world Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I read someplace that it's best to drop into single user mode > to make world, Is this fact? I suppose it is - you have the system (and all its resources) to yourself, and you avoid potential "sawing off the branch you're sitting on" problems when it starts re-installing things. (Although I have successfully made the world in multi-user mode without any apparent problems). > If so, How does one log the make process. > I would normally do: make |& tee make.err > This don't work in single user mode. (Unless I did something wrong) If you got Syntax error: "&" unexpected this is because sh is the default shell for single-user mode and it doesn't understand C shell syntax. Either do (make world | tee make.err) & or just enter "csh" when it asks you which shell to use (instead of pressing the return key, which is presumably what you're doing now). > I'm having problems making world, It keeps crashing and I don't > get a chance to see the screen before it re-boots and eats > my source tree. Any clues in /var/log/messages? -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 10:33:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA24952 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 10:33:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from battra.telebase.com (root@battra.telebase.com [192.132.57.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA24947 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 10:33:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wormhole.telebase.com by battra.telebase.com id NAA07979; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 13:32:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from current.willscreek.com (root@current.willscreek.com [172.16.11.101]) by wormhole.telebase.com (8.7.4/8.6.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA22682; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 13:32:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bmc@localhost) by current.willscreek.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) id NAA01056; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 13:32:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 13:32:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199607061732.NAA01056@current.willscreek.com> From: "Brian M. Clapper" To: "Thomas S. Traylor" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do you write to an executable (binary)? In-Reply-To: <76092049@toto.iv> Reply-To: Brian Clapper Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Thomas" == Thomas S Traylor writes: Thomas> Here's what I'm trying to do: Thomas> I have a program that will prompt the user for a value. I would Thomas> like to write that value to the executable (binary) file. (Using Thomas> open, lseek, write, close) Thomas> Problem: Thomas> When I open the file I get the following error: Thomas> "Error: Text file busy". The message number is [ETXTBSY]. Thomas> I'm able to do this with other OS. How can I get this to work with Thomas> FreeBSD? Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. That means the executable is in use--i.e., someone's running it. If you have enough space on the file system, you can eliminate that problem this way: 1. Copy the executable to a uniquely temporary file in the same directory, and be sure to preserve the ownership and permission settings. 2. Update the temporary file with your value. 3. Unlink the original. 4. Rename the temporary to the original. Of course, this whole topic begs the obvious question: Why are you updating an executable in this way? ----- Brian Clapper ....................... bmc@WillsCreek.COM -or- bmc@telebase.com http://www.netaxs.com/~bmc/ ......... PGP public key available on request The first and great commandment is: Do not let them scare you. -- Elmer Davis From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 11:09:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA26493 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 11:09:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mishu.inet-on.net (root@mishu.inet-on.net [206.130.53.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA26475 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 11:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from myers.inet-on.net ([206.130.53.50]) by mishu.inet-on.net (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA00337; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 13:51:16 -0400 Message-ID: <31DEAC24.75D4@mishu.inet-on.net> Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 14:10:44 -0400 From: "D. Myers" Reply-To: dmyers@mishu.inet-on.net Organization: Internet Online X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Modem hangs up Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm having a problem with users dialing in and having my modems hangup on the first try and then accept on the second try. I'm using the USR Sporster 28.8 (33.6) and have had no luck with modifications to the modem to eliminate this problem (ie. ATE0Q1&W to eliminate result codes). I have set my ttys at std.57600, bidir.57600 etc. even down to std.19200 with no luck. Could some one help? Thanks, Duane. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 11:22:47 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA27128 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 11:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cosmos.kaist.ac.kr (cosmos.kaist.ac.kr [143.248.172.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA27115 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 11:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ran.kaist.ac.kr (ran [143.248.195.20]) by cosmos.kaist.ac.kr (8.6.12h2/8.6.12) with ESMTP id DAA14194; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 03:15:38 -0900 Received: (from yichoi@localhost) by ran.kaist.ac.kr (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA07762; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 03:26:30 +0900 (KST) From: Youngil Choi Message-Id: <199607061826.DAA07762@ran.kaist.ac.kr> Subject: de0 problem To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 03:26:29 +0900 (KST) Cc: yichoi@cosmos.kaist.ac.kr X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL19 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello. I've being used de0 from 2.1.0-RELEASE to 2.2-960501-SNAP. when I used under 2.2-960501-SNAP, there were no problems in de0. But, after i changed kernel to 2.2-960612-SNAP. something happens. kernel says "de0: receiver: CRC error" are there some conflics? or driver error? if this was true, how can i get patch-routine? please help me. Thanks in advance. - yichoi From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 13:24:28 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA02782 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 13:24:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from widomaker.com (root@wilma.widomaker.com [204.17.220.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA02777 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 13:24:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by widomaker.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ucdtr-0000fHC; Sat, 6 Jul 96 16:24 EDT Message-Id: From: tdl@widomaker.com (Troy) Subject: SCSI controller question To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 16:24:19 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am considering purchasing a SCSI controller, the Tyan S1365 Yorktown. It is a 53C825 controller (as mentioned in the FAQ) but I am concerned when they tell us that it is a Fast/Wide SCSI-III controller, specifically: SCSI Bus 16-bit Wide Single-Ended Aynchronous Transfers (up to 10 MB/sec) Single-Ended Synchronous Transfers (up to 20 MB/sec) SCSI Connectors Internal 50-pin Vertical Low Density Connector Internal 68-pin Right Angle High Density Connector External 50-pin High Density Shielded Connector with Screw Jacks My question is can this be used easyly with FreeBSD and a Teac 6x SCSI CDROM? (i.e. will the fact that it is 'Fast' or 'Wide' or 'SCSI-III' be a problem or a plus? ) and to which port will I connect it? Will a driver be a problem? Many thanks, -Troy- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Troy D. Landers Email: tdl@widomaker.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 13:48:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA03968 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 13:48:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03961 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 13:48:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.Stanford.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA12796; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 13:40:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 13:40:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: Gary Chrysler cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: makeing world In-Reply-To: <31DE72C9.394B@ime.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, Gary Chrysler wrote: > Annelise Anderson wrote: > > > > On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, Gary Chrysler wrote: > > > > > I read someplace that it's best to drop into single user mode > > > to make world, Is this fact? > > > > > > If so, How does one log the make process. > > > I would normally do: make |& tee make.err > > > This don't work in single user mode. (Unless I did something wrong) > > > > In single user mode you have to mount the swap partition(s) with > > swapon -a > > before you do the make world. > > > > Ok Thanks. > All I did was: shutdown now, make world. this time. > So far it has been going for ~9 hours, Hopefully it will not eat > my source tree this time. > > I did not do: swapon -a > Does this mean that it's working soley in memory now?? Yes, I think so. The benefit of single user mode is probably also (or primarily) that there's more memory available. I had 16 megs and it failed without the swap partitions mounted. > Maybe thats why it's taking so long, I've only got 8megs in this > 486DX-33 system. :( > > I have saved your suggestions, and will look into thier uses on > the next make world. > Thank you. > > > > > I used make world >& make.out& to get a "make.out" file recording > > the process. I think I typed csh first; probably you would need > > to do that with the command you used as it's probably a csh command. > > > > However you can make world without going into single user mode...I'm > > not sure but I think the benefit of single-user mode is that there > > are fewer processes running to use swap. I thought it was rather > > interesting to not do it in single user mode because the machine could > > continue to serve web pages and allow me to log in from home and look > > at what was going on (or you could log in on another virtual terminal)-- > > I ran swapinfo now and then and did tail -f make.out to see what was > > going on. make.out ends up over 3.5 megabytes. vmstat might also be > > interesting (as well as ps axl) although I suppose pulling up the > > carrots to see how they're growing prolongs the process. > > > > Welp, I have no users (private system), So I'm not concerned about > serving anything, Although it would be nice to be able to access > the system while it's building, There is no NEED for it! > > My hopes are that it at least completes without eating my source > tree again. > > -Enjoy > Gary > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours > The Borg... Where minds meet > (207) 929-3848 > From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 14:15:10 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA05404 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 14:15:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lint.cisco.com (lint.cisco.com [171.68.223.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA05399 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 14:15:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (skrishna@localhost) by lint.cisco.com (8.6.10/CISCO.SERVER.1.1) id OAA14692; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 14:15:22 -0700 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 14:15:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Sridhar Krishnan To: Greg Lehey cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1 Help In-Reply-To: <199607060700.JAA22326@allegro.lemis.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thanks taking the time to respond. 1. cu -l cuaa0 says "connected". Then when I type "ATDTE1Q0", I am expecting "OK". Nothing happens. When I quit out with ~. it takes a minute to disconnect. Yet another person aksed me disable PnP (plug and Play) option. I do not know how-to. I'll give it a try. It is an internal modem and it is hard to diagnose without any lights. I also tried cu -x9 -l cuaa0. Did not help since there is no response from the modem. It is an MWave 28.8 Internal modem. 2. On fvwm, I am little confused. I start xdm as explained in the book (via init - ttys. Ofcourse I cannot use because a wm is already running. If I do startx, then whole bunch of X sessions start but I am unable to bring up fvwm. Any way I should read the man pages. That's all. > Sridhar Krishnan writes: > > > >> I don't know if this should work. I personally use cu for this sort > >> of thing > >> > >> $ cu -s 38400 -l /dev/cuaa0 > >> > > > > I tried, and it does not seem to work. The device is properly configured. > > I even deleted cuaa0 and re-added using /dev/MAKEDEV. the tun0 is all set > > up. I set up the ppp according to the handbook. Help! > > What goes wrong? > > > I have one othe question regarding "fvwm". What do I set before getting > > it to work ? What should be my display ? I tried setting up in /etc/ttys > > and it did not work. > > What did you put in /etc/ttys? If you can start X, you just need to > start /usr/X11/bin/fvwm as well, after installing it (see page 97 of > The Book). You can put the start in your .xinit file, but that's not > essential, just a good idea. When you start it up, it should come > with a whole lot of clients pre-configured, but one way or another > you're going to have to read the man page. > > Greg > From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 14:56:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA06973 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 14:56:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA06967 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 14:56:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.Stanford.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA12981; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 14:54:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 14:54:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson Reply-To: Annelise Anderson To: James Raynard cc: root@andrsn.stanford.edu, zach@blizzard.gaffaneys.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, jfieber@indiana.edu Subject: Re: Sorting Incoming Mail In-Reply-To: <199607041526.PAA01288@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, James Raynard wrote: > Indeed! (BTW did you know there's an Emacs for VMS?) Forgive me for not being wildly enthusiastic. <:) > > > What I don't quite get is subscribing to different groups under > > different names--e.g., instead of subscribing to doc as andrsn@ > > andrsn.stanford.edu, I'd subscribe as fdocs@andrsn.stanford.edu, > > create a user (without a valid shell or some such, so even if the > > user had a password it would never need to be used) named fdocs, > > It's probably a good idea to put an asterisk in the password field > if you want to prevent anyone from logging in as that user. (Not > strictly necessary if they have an invalid shell, but a useful extra > precaution). > > > and then use procmail to sort all mail to fdocs into the > > appropriate folder/file in /usr/home/andrsn. Is that how people > > do it? > > I'm too lazy to learn how to use procmail, and I keep meaning to get > around to setting up GNUS. At the moment, I just log in as each > pseudo-user and read their mail, but Zach's posting has inspired me to > have a go at finally sorting this out. > > James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland I figured out how to do this (with pine 3.94, which provides "access to mailboxes in accounts with a different log-in name." Not using system-wide procmail, just a .procmailrc file and a .forward file in each user's home directory. I created a group called rmail and made rmail the group owner of the other users' mailboxes and log files (defaults defined in .procmailrc), and made the files group readable and writable. I put myself ("andrsn", the reading user) in the rmail group. This works for a user with a valid shell and password, and also for a user without a password (with a * in the password field, as you recommend). However the user without a valid password ("maildrop) nevertheless needs a valid shell; otherwise can't receive mail. Then I added an incoming mail box (in pine) for the "real" user and the "maildrop" user....so this should work in any mail program that lets you access files in someone else's home directory, assuming the ownership and permissions allow it. Annelise From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 15:09:37 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA07346 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 15:09:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from synwork.com (flaq@synwork.com [199.3.234.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA07340 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 15:09:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (flaq@localhost) by synwork.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA02068; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 17:08:52 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 17:08:51 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike K." To: Sridhar Krishnan cc: Greg Lehey , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1 Help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, Sridhar Krishnan wrote: > > Thanks taking the time to respond. > > 1. cu -l cuaa0 > says "connected". Then when I type "ATDTE1Q0", I am expecting "OK". > Nothing happens. When I quit out with ~. it takes a minute to disconnect. > Yet another person aksed me disable PnP (plug and Play) option. I do not > know how-to. I'll give it a try. It is an internal modem and it is hard > to diagnose without any lights. I also tried cu -x9 -l cuaa0. Did not > help since there is no response from the modem. It is an MWave 28.8 > Internal modem. ATDTE1Q0 ? You're telling it to dial tone. Try ate1q0 instead > > 2. On fvwm, I am little confused. I start xdm as explained in the book > (via init - ttys. Ofcourse I cannot use because a wm is already running. > If I do startx, then whole bunch of X sessions start but I am unable to > bring up fvwm. Any way I should read the man pages. > > That's all. > > > Sridhar Krishnan writes: > > > > > >> I don't know if this should work. I personally use cu for this sort > > >> of thing > > >> > > >> $ cu -s 38400 -l /dev/cuaa0 > > >> > > > > > > I tried, and it does not seem to work. The device is properly configured. > > > I even deleted cuaa0 and re-added using /dev/MAKEDEV. the tun0 is all set > > > up. I set up the ppp according to the handbook. Help! > > > > What goes wrong? > > > > > I have one othe question regarding "fvwm". What do I set before getting > > > it to work ? What should be my display ? I tried setting up in /etc/ttys > > > and it did not work. > > > > What did you put in /etc/ttys? If you can start X, you just need to > > start /usr/X11/bin/fvwm as well, after installing it (see page 97 of > > The Book). You can put the start in your .xinit file, but that's not > > essential, just a good idea. When you start it up, it should come > > with a whole lot of clients pre-configured, but one way or another > > you're going to have to read the man page. > > > > Greg > > > ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Syn-Work Media, Inc. | WWW Development & Hosting | Life Safety http://www.synwork.com | Systems Integration | CCTV mike@synwork.com | Voice/Data/Fiber | Access Control Flaq on IRC | Dukane Distributor | BICSI/RCDD ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 15:18:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA07727 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 15:18:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po2.glue.umd.edu (po2.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA07721 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 15:18:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from packet.eng.umd.edu (packet.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.184]) by po2.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA05984; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:17:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by packet.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA22605; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:17:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:17:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@packet.eng.umd.edu To: Troy cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SCSI controller question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, Troy wrote: > Hi, > > I am considering purchasing a SCSI controller, the Tyan S1365 Yorktown. > It is a 53C825 controller (as mentioned in the FAQ) but I am concerned > when they tell us that it is a Fast/Wide SCSI-III controller, > specifically: > > SCSI Bus > > 16-bit > Wide > Single-Ended Aynchronous Transfers (up to 10 MB/sec) > Single-Ended Synchronous Transfers (up to 20 MB/sec) > > SCSI Connectors > > Internal 50-pin Vertical Low Density Connector > Internal 68-pin Right Angle High Density Connector > External 50-pin High Density Shielded Connector with Screw Jacks > > My question is can this be used easyly with FreeBSD and a Teac 6x SCSI > CDROM? (i.e. will the fact that it is 'Fast' or 'Wide' or 'SCSI-III' be a > problem or a plus? ) and to which port will I connect it? Will a driver > be a problem? I use it, but I don't have any wide drives right now, so I use the internal 50 pin connector. I don't run a cdrom on that machine yet (I have it on the other one), and the only trouble I've come upon yet is that it doesn't seem to handle itself correctly, unless you you build your kernels with the "FAILSAFE" option. Something to do with tagged commands, but I honestly don't know enough about scsi software to comment further. I have two SCSI-3 drives connected to it, and one SCSI-2 drive, and it recognizes each correctly, giving a 10 M speed to the SCSI-3 drives, and 5 to the SCSI-2. At some time in the future, I might try putting my scsi cdrom on it for test, but not right now. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 15:36:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA08464 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 15:36:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scruz.net (nic.scruz.net [165.227.1.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA08459 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 15:36:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sgn.sc.scruznet.com by scruz.net (8.7.3/1.34) id PAA18161; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 15:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <31DEEA86.41C67EA6@sgnimport.com> Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 15:36:54 -0700 From: "Steven G. Neubeck" X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: PPP X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Where can I find step by step instrctions to set up my FreeBSD system as a PPP server (ppp -direct). I seem to make the connection but can't get any clients to work. PPP to my Internet provider works fine. Thanks for your help and FreeBSD - Steven P.S. Revolutionary Software is helping me get /rdb (problem with curses used in the editors) to work on my FreeBSD system. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 15:40:13 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA08647 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 15:40:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Arizona.EDU (Penny.Telcom.Arizona.EDU [128.196.128.217]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA08642 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 15:40:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sun1paztcn.wr.usgs.gov by Arizona.EDU (PMDF V5.0-5 #2381) id <01I6RAGHTMBKCQ8UN7@Arizona.EDU> for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 06 Jul 1996 15:40:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost by sun1paztcn.wr.usgs.gov (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13535; Sat, 06 Jul 1996 15:38:54 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 15:38:53 -0700 From: Doug Wellington Subject: Matlab and Mathematica (Was Re: Windows and DOS for Free BSD ) To: questions@freebsd.org Cc: doug@sun1paztcn.wr.usgs.gov Message-id: <9607062238.AA13535@sun1paztcn.wr.usgs.gov> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Previously: >[...] Engineering classes here require matlab, which unfortunately is a >dos beast. I'd LOVE to be able to run it (or Mathcad, even better) under >FreeBSD. I've seen ads in the Linux Journal for both Matlab and Mathematica running on Linux... Anybody try running the Linux binaries on FreeBSD? I may go ahead and upgrade my MS Windows versions of both Mathematica and Matlab to the Linux version (for use with FreeBSD of course!) if that works.... (Hmmm, if that works, and I can find some decent OCR software, I might not ever need DOS again... Ah, hell, I'm addicted, I'll never give up DOS - just like I can't give up old Chevys!) ;-) ;-) ;-) -Doug Doug Wellington doug@sun1paztcn.wr.usgs.gov System and Network Administrator US Geological Survey, Tucson, AZ Project Office According to proposed Federal guidelines, this message is a "non-record". Hmm, I wonder if _everything_ I say is a "non-record"...? FreeBSD and Apache - the best real tools for the virtual world! Check out www.freebsd.org and www.apache.org... Just say NO to Netscape Navigator! From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 16:04:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA09751 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 16:04:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from synwork.com (flaq@synwork.com [199.3.234.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA09717 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 16:03:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (flaq@localhost) by synwork.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA02204 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:03:53 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:03:51 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mike K." To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Netscape and Java Prob Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a problem with Netscape 3.0b3 and viewing Java applets. I always get a Warning: Cannot allocate colormap entry for default background Is there a way to get around this? I am running a Trident 9440 VLB with 2 megs on X3.12 and 2.10-RELEASE. ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ Syn-Work Media, Inc. | WWW Development & Hosting | Life Safety http://www.synwork.com | Systems Integration | CCTV mike@synwork.com | Voice/Data/Fiber | Access Control Flaq on IRC | Dukane Distributor | BICSI/RCDD ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 16:05:17 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA09846 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 16:05:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wet.kiss.uni-lj.si (wet.kiss.uni-lj.si [193.2.98.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA09838 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 16:05:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from k4ef0098@localhost) by wet.kiss.uni-lj.si (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA00786; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 01:05:38 +0200 Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 01:05:37 +0200 (MET DST) From: Damir Cifer To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Installing FreeBSD into a logical partition Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! What I wonder is if it will be possible to install FreeBSD into a part of the extended partition (logical partition) in the 2.2.0 release? Is it perhaps already possible in the current snaps? Cya Damir Cifer | E-Mail: Damir.Cifer@kiss.uni-lj.si Staneta Rozmana 8 | Fido-Mail: Damir.Cifer@2:380/167 SI-9000 Murska Sobota | Damir.Cifer@2:380/175 SLOVENIA | http://www.kiss.uni-lj.si/~k4ef0098/ To err is human. To admit mistakes ... divine. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 16:52:59 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA11822 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 16:52:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po1.glue.umd.edu (po1.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA11815 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 16:52:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from packet.eng.umd.edu (packet.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.184]) by po1.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA06747; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 19:52:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by packet.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA22533; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 19:52:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 19:52:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@packet.eng.umd.edu To: Doug Wellington cc: questions@freebsd.org, doug@sun1paztcn.wr.usgs.gov Subject: Re: Matlab and Mathematica (Was Re: Windows and DOS for Free BSD ) In-Reply-To: <9607062238.AA13535@sun1paztcn.wr.usgs.gov> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, Doug Wellington wrote: > Previously: > >[...] Engineering classes here require matlab, which unfortunately is a > >dos beast. I'd LOVE to be able to run it (or Mathcad, even better) under > >FreeBSD. > > I've seen ads in the Linux Journal for both Matlab and Mathematica running > on Linux... Anybody try running the Linux binaries on FreeBSD? I may > go ahead and upgrade my MS Windows versions of both Mathematica and Matlab > to the Linux version (for use with FreeBSD of course!) if that works.... > (Hmmm, if that works, and I can find some decent OCR software, I might > not ever need DOS again... Ah, hell, I'm addicted, I'll never give up > DOS - just like I can't give up old Chevys!) ;-) ;-) ;-) I run Mathematica under FreeBSD -- there's a handbook chapter on getting it to run. I hadn't heard that there was a matlab version ... my instructor had told me that matlab had discontinued Unix support after their version 3, which is kinda aged. That's what got me upset, when I heard that engineering required matlab, instead of the math department's Mathematica. > > -Doug > > Doug Wellington > doug@sun1paztcn.wr.usgs.gov > System and Network Administrator > US Geological Survey, Tucson, AZ Project Office > > According to proposed Federal guidelines, this message is a "non-record". > Hmm, I wonder if _everything_ I say is a "non-record"...? > > FreeBSD and Apache - the best real tools for the virtual world! > Check out www.freebsd.org and www.apache.org... > > Just say NO to Netscape Navigator! > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 17:17:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA12742 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 17:17:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chain.iafrica.com (root@chain.iafrica.com [196.31.1.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA12736 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 17:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (khetan@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chain.iafrica.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA00128; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 02:16:39 +0200 (SAT) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 02:16:35 +0200 (SAT) From: Khetan Gajjar To: "Mike K." cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Netscape and Java Prob In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, Mike K. wrote: >I have a problem with Netscape 3.0b3 and viewing Java applets. I always >get a Warning: > Cannot allocate colormap entry for default background The problem isn't Netscape; it's how many apps you have open that are grabbing the colormap (eg. xv). Just run netscape with the -install option to fix this (dirtily). To actually solve the problem, quit out of whatever graphic hog you have open, or increase your resolution (from 256 to 16 bit, for example). Regards, Khetan Gajjar. --- http://www.chain.iafrica.com/~khetan/ UUNet-Internet Africa Operations - 0800-030-002 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 17:53:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA14250 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 17:53:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ccnet4.ccnet.com (root@ccnet4.ccnet.com [192.215.96.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14245 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 17:53:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mega-jed (h97-155.ccnet.com [192.215.97.155]) by ccnet4.ccnet.com (8.7.1/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA17971 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 17:53:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199607070053.RAA17971@ccnet4.ccnet.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Adam Capell" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 17:49:53 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: IP masquerading possible? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there a way to do IP masquerading under FreeBSD, so that I can connect my network to the internet with only a single static IP number? From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 17:59:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA14363 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 17:59:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix1.ism.com.br (unix1.ism.com.br [200.255.211.35]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14353 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 17:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from clpc1.compuland.com.br (clpc1.compuland.com.br [200.255.96.22]) by unix1.ism.com.br (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id VAA20838 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 21:58:05 -0300 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 21:58:05 -0300 Message-Id: <199607070058.VAA20838@unix1.ism.com.br> X-Sender: compland@ism.com.br X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@freebsd.org From: compland@ism.com.br (Helio Coelho Jr. - CompuLand Informatica) Subject: Deleting a tree Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi: There's a way to delete a directory tree, without deleting all the archives inside it ? Maybe a script file? Thanks! Helio. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 18:01:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA14504 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA14499 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:01:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id ab15575; 7 Jul 96 2:01 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa20524; 7 Jul 96 2:01 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA03458; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 23:06:29 GMT Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 23:06:29 GMT Message-Id: <199607062306.XAA03458@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: alexandr@louie.udel.edu CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <9607061547.aa12275@stimpy.eecis.udel.edu> (message from Jerry Alexandratos on Sat, 06 Jul 1996 11:47:08 -0400) Subject: Re: Port of Binutils 2.6? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [re binutils-2.6] > If not, has anyone had any experience with this? How well does it > compile out of the box? Where should I look to patch it? Etc... I imagine it would take quite a bit of work - as far as I know, none of the gcc/ld/binutils family have a FreeBSD target, which is one of the reasons why they don't get updated very often. As for gcc-2.7.2p, I don't have it (no free space at the moment), but I would only use it for testing and things that weren't critically important. I certainly wouldn't compile my kernel with it! :-) If you really do want to do this, the best place to start is probably by comparing the /usr/src version with the GNU distribution it was based on. As this work has already been done (although not yet committed to -current) and gcc-2.7.3 and supporting cast are almost certainly going to be in 2.2, I'd recommend using the time to do something more immediately fruitful... -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 18:04:06 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA14602 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:04:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail (mail.bcpl.lib.md.us [204.255.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA14597 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:04:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp28.bcpl.lib.md.us by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA27091; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 21:04:26 +0500 Received: by ppp28.bcpl.lib.md.us with Microsoft Mail id <01BB6B7E.985E7880@ppp28.bcpl.lib.md.us>; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 21:03:34 -0400 Message-Id: <01BB6B7E.985E7880@ppp28.bcpl.lib.md.us> From: Anil John To: "'James Raynard'" Cc: "questions@freebsd.org" Subject: RE: Netscape & FreeBSD Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 21:03:33 -0400 Encoding: 14 TEXT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk James Raynard[SMTP:fqueries@jraynard.demon.co.uk] wrote: >> This is probably a !@#$@ question but here goes :) >> Do you need to be running X in order to use Netscape with FreeBSD ? > >Yes. If you want a text-mode browser, lynx is good (it can even >download graphics to view later). If it's the flashy "extras" you're >after, you're probably stuck. > I am running Lynx right now and it does the job for me. I really don't run X on my FreeBSD machine right now since I seem to get things done faster in test mode :), but I was curious... Thanks to all who replied... Anil From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 18:09:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA14761 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:09:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA14751 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:08:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id af16598; 7 Jul 96 2:08 +0100 Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa20529; 7 Jul 96 2:01 +0100 Received: (from fqueries@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA03437; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 22:46:19 GMT Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 22:46:19 GMT Message-Id: <199607062246.WAA03437@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: James Raynard To: zach@blizzard.gaffaneys.com CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <87n31da1pa.fsf@freebsd.gaffaneys.com> (message from Zach Heilig on 06 Jul 1996 09:36:17 -0500) Subject: Re: What's up with ownership? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Is there any reason why files I create in /tmp (group owned by bin) are > also group owned by bin? This is the normal BSD behaviour. From mkdir(2):- The directory's owner ID is set to the process's effective user ID. The directory's group ID is set to that of the parent directory in which it is created. > It seems like a security risk to be able to create a file in a random > world writable directory, and have it created with a gid other than > one I belong to. It shouldn't be:- $ cp /bin/sh /tmp/foo $ ls -l /tmp/foo -r-xr-xr-x 1 fqueries wheel 282624 Jul 6 21:58 /tmp/foo $ chmod g+s /tmp/foo chmod: /tmp/foo: Operation not permitted If I change the group ownership of /tmp to 'bin' and try this again, I get $ chgrp g+s /tmp/foo chgrp: g+s: illegal group name (The fqueries user is in the group 'wheel', but not 'bin'). > I remember the old unix behavior when the directory > had to have the setgid bit on for files/directories created in it be > have the same gid as the directory. As far as I know (which isn't usually very far), the "traditional" SysV behaviour was that any files you created were group-owned by the group you were in at the time the file was created (your effective GID, to be precise). On such systems, you could only be in one group at a time, unlike BSD which allows you to be in up to 16. The setgid bit is a hack in SVR4 and other Unices to allow both SysV and BSD behaviours on the same system. By default, they use the SysV rule; if however the setgid bit is set on a directory, they use the BSD behaviour and any files created in that directory then have the same group owner as the directory. > Are files created in a directory > supposed to have the same gid as the directory (when the directory > doesn't have the setgid bit on), or does FreeBSD have a bug? No bugs, this is how it's meant to work! :-) -- James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland james@jraynard.demon.co.uk http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 18:18:29 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA15129 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:18:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail (mail.bcpl.lib.md.us [204.255.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA15124 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:18:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp25.bcpl.lib.md.us by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA27859; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 21:19:04 +0500 Received: by ppp25.bcpl.lib.md.us with Microsoft Mail id <01BB6B80.A44E4740@ppp25.bcpl.lib.md.us>; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 21:18:13 -0400 Message-Id: <01BB6B80.A44E4740@ppp25.bcpl.lib.md.us> From: Anil John To: "'Steven G. Neubeck'" Cc: "'FreeBSD Questions'" Subject: RE: PPP Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 21:18:12 -0400 Encoding: 12 TEXT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Steven G. Neubeck[SMTP:sgn@sgnimport.com] wrote: >Where can I find step by step instrctions to set up my >FreeBSD system as a PPP server (ppp -direct). I seem to >make the connection but can't get any clients to work. >PPP to my Internet provider works fine. > Check out the following page in the FreeBSD handbook http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook145.html#352 Anil From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 18:46:02 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA16724 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:46:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from loop.com (pma1_103.loop.com [206.138.116.103]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA16713; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:45:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (gif@localhost) by loop.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA00223; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:24:08 -0700 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:24:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Gifka Sovereign To: Gary Palmer cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Matsushita cdrom In-Reply-To: <21023.836639943@palmer.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, Gary Palmer wrote: > Gifka Sovereign wrote in message ID > : > > On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, Chuck Robey wrote: > > What do you mean by "cdrom player software"? > > He is referring to audio player software. And I also have a feeling > he's not altogether correct... there are a set of IOCTL's for handling > audio playing of CD's, and it's probably more that not all the > non-SCSI device drivers handle the ioctl's properly (I'm no expert on > this though). Ah, ok. Well, I'm no expert either. I will say that xcdplayer works well with my matcd. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 18:51:41 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA16949 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:51:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from loop.com (pma1_103.loop.com [206.138.116.103]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA16944 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:51:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (gif@localhost) by loop.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA00240; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:29:45 -0700 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:29:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Gifka Sovereign To: Jim Dennis cc: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Changing prompt In-Reply-To: <199607060922.CAA06354@starshine> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, Jim Dennis wrote: > You could but bash offers much better options. > > BASH Prompt Mini-HOWTO >[Lot's of great stuff] Thanks for the Mini-HOWTO Jim! Great stuff! From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 19:03:40 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA17525 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 19:03:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail (mail.bcpl.lib.md.us [204.255.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA17519 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 19:03:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp143.bcpl.lib.md.us by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA00985; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 22:04:05 +0500 Received: by ppp143.bcpl.lib.md.us with Microsoft Mail id <01BB6B86.ED39D2C0@ppp143.bcpl.lib.md.us>; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 22:03:13 -0400 Message-Id: <01BB6B86.ED39D2C0@ppp143.bcpl.lib.md.us> From: Anil John To: "'FreeBSD Questions'" Subject: Dial up (dynamic IP) Web Server - Possible? Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 22:03:11 -0400 Encoding: 25 TEXT Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, I would like to know if the following is possible. My setup: * I have a dial up PPP connection to a provider who assigns a dynamic IP address each time I connect. * I have a valid domain name registered with Internic (say, bar.org), but it is not mapped to any static IP address. * My machine is foo.bar.org What I would like to do: Dial up and get connected to my provider. When someone looks up http://www.bar.org, they connect to my machine which is running the apache web server and has the designation of www.bar.org (for the duration of my connection to my provider). I guess what I am asking is is there a way to map a domain to a dynamic IP address? Anil From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 19:25:48 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA18404 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 19:25:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dmog10.bell.ca (dmog10.bell.ca [198.235.69.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA18398 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 19:25:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dcoc41.qc.bell.ca (dcoc41.qc.bell.ca [142.119.11.11]) by dmog10.bell.ca with ESMTP id WAA19857 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 22:25:06 -0400 Received: from blmc36.QC.Bell.CA (blmc36.QC.Bell.CA [142.118.5.40]) by dcoc41.qc.bell.ca with SMTP id WAA02820 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 22:21:44 -0400 Received: from babylon5 (amiga) by blmc36.QC.Bell.CA (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03013; Sat, 6 Jul 96 22:27:23 EDT Message-Id: <31DF1FFF.167EB0E7@qc.bell.ca> Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 22:25:03 -0400 From: michel X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; BSD/386 uname failed) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: java Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, i have installed the jdk10 port .I have set the environnement variables (LD_LIBRAY_PATH CLASSPATH) i was able to compile the demo program Chart.java and it produces a Chart.class file, when i tried to run it java Chart.class it tells me that it can't find Chart.class What's wrong? Thanks michel From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 20:04:26 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA20251 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 20:04:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po2.glue.umd.edu (po2.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.45]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA20246; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 20:04:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from packet.eng.umd.edu (packet.eng.umd.edu [129.2.98.184]) by po2.glue.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA07100; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 23:04:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from chuckr@localhost) by packet.eng.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA22427; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 23:04:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 23:04:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@packet.eng.umd.edu To: Gifka Sovereign cc: Gary Palmer , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Matsushita cdrom In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, Gifka Sovereign wrote: > On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, Gary Palmer wrote: > > > Gifka Sovereign wrote in message ID > > : > > > On Fri, 5 Jul 1996, Chuck Robey wrote: > > > What do you mean by "cdrom player software"? > > > > He is referring to audio player software. And I also have a feeling > > he's not altogether correct... there are a set of IOCTL's for handling > > audio playing of CD's, and it's probably more that not all the > > non-SCSI device drivers handle the ioctl's properly (I'm no expert on > > this though). > > Ah, ok. Well, I'm no expert either. I will say that xcdplayer works > well with my matcd. Now works with mine too. Trouble was that the Soundblaster 16 docs come with no mention of any options setting either irq or ioaddr for the cdrom, but the matcd controller line in the config file wants one. I'm using some info from Brian Clapper, which has me working, but he admits he has no idea why it works either. I *hate* magic incantations. If I could get any more info, I'd write up a handbook submission, but all I have is a working system (now). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and n3lxx, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 2.2 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 20:38:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id UAA21659 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 20:38:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebsd.gaffaneys.com ([134.129.252.23]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA21654 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 20:38:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from zach@localhost) by freebsd.gaffaneys.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA01227; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 22:38:08 -0500 To: James Raynard Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's up with ownership? References: <199607062246.WAA03437@jraynard.demon.co.uk> From: Zach Heilig Date: 06 Jul 1996 22:38:07 -0500 In-Reply-To: James Raynard's message of Sat, 6 Jul 1996 22:46:19 GMT Message-ID: <8791cwbun4.fsf@freebsd.gaffaneys.com> Lines: 27 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.2.32/Emacs 19.31 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk James Raynard writes: > > Is there any reason why files I create in /tmp (group owned by bin) are > > also group owned by bin? > This is the normal BSD behaviour. From mkdir(2):- > The directory's owner ID is set to the process's effective user ID. The > directory's group ID is set to that of the parent directory in which it > is created. It seems to me that, even though it might be a bit more complex, files should not be created with a gid that you do not belong to by default. That by itself isn't such a big deal, but some programs (like mv(1)) try to preserve the file's gid, and fail. Maybe mv(1) should have that particular message silenced, since it mostly superfluous anyway. cp(1) with the -p option doesn't print a message if it can't preserve uid and gid in the destination, and the man page for mv(1) says that it uses rm(1) and cp(1) to move files across file-systems. I just tested this, and mv(1) only complains when it is moving files, not directories, wonder why? -- Zach Heilig (zach@blizzard.gaffaneys.com) Support bacteria -- it's the only culture some people have! ALL unsolicited >commercial< email is subject to a $100 proof-reading fee. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 22:42:24 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA29220 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 22:42:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prometheus.hol.gr (otto@prometheus.hol.gr [194.30.193.159]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA29209 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 22:42:21 -0700 (PDT) Hops: 0 Host: freebsd.org. Received: (from otto@localhost) by prometheus.hol.gr (8.7.4/8.7.3) id IAA12589 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 08:39:10 -0200 (GMT) From: Syntichakis Christopher Posted-Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 08:39:10 -0200 (GMT) Message-Id: <199607071039.IAA12589@prometheus.hol.gr> Subject: Printer & Sound (strange) problem To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 08:39:09 -0200 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! When I boot the FreeBSD from the HD after a hardware reset, I have no sound , and the printer takes ages to print ... (ie it prints a line, then pauses for two-three seconds, and continues...) But when I am booting the FreeBSD from MS-DOS, (and running the soundcard init program) via FBSDBOOT.EXE , I have sound , and the printer works ok......... Note : my soundcard is SB PRO compatible, (with MAD16 OPTI chip). The m/board is a SOYO 5TC5 (P133) 8MB 256K P/line burst cache. I have not any conflict with the devices (I've checked them with the 'boot -c' ) (FreeBsd v.2.1) Any ideas ? Regards Chris -- ________ ____ __ __ _________ / __ \/ /_/ /____ ___________/ /_/ / __/ __/ _ \ _____________\____/\__/\__/\___/ http://users.hol.gr/~otto/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 22:54:03 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id WAA00480 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 22:54:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA00475 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 22:53:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-4.ime.net [206.231.148.133]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA03932; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 01:53:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31DF5123.97B@ime.net> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 01:54:43 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Raynard CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ports suggestion References: <199607061328.NAA01019@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk James Raynard wrote: > > > Something I find very very annoying as a Newbie. > > pkg_add a package, It drops ya right back to the prompt without > > a clue on what to do next! > > Yep, this is "the Unix way" - you only get a message if the user needs > to be informed about something unusual (a program working correctly is > not regarded as unusual under Unix :-) > Ok, I'll buy that, And go for it! No news is Good news. :) less, is good example here, No setup needed! > > "man xxxxx" is a standard Unix-ism for finding out how to use > something; Unix programs generally assume that the user knows how to > use Unix :-) > Is it not in the best intrest of FreeBSD to encurage New users? We all had/have to start someplace! A simple 1 line: `See man xxxx(x) for documentation`, would point the new user in the right direction. xxxx(x) is not always easy to determine with some packages. New users (at least I do) spend more time trying to find documentation then reading installing and configuring the package. Not a way to encurage people! An example: wu-ftpd package, pkg_info tells a bit about what needs to be done, (Thanks whomever) But it does NOT tell a person where to find further info! It spews line after line of BRAG and never tells a person where to find further help! Heck, The samples are not even commented! `man wu-ftpd` results are: No manual entry! Apache, is nice, It tells you where to find help. albeit worthless if one does not have a connection to the internet! > If the package has some information in a different place, then I would > certainly agree that there should be a message to that effect, eg > > "Sample configuration files for the gronkleblaster are in the > /usr/local/share/gronkleblaster directory. These need to be customised > for your site before attempting to run the gronkleblaster." > Amen.. > The "See pkg_info" information should really go in the Handbook entry > on packages (has anyone got round to writing one yet?) as it's the > same for all packages. > There is mention of the pkg_* commands, suffecient I belive! My point was to stay one step ahead of the user by pointing to the documentation. The pointer to the documentation could be displayed in the pkg_info infofile. Some do, some don't, All should! I would think this would also be good for the Team by helping to prevent some of these repetious questions. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 23:11:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA01322 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 23:11:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA01317 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 23:11:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-4.ime.net [206.231.148.133]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA04642; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 02:11:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31DF553C.677A@ime.net> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 02:12:12 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Raynard CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: makeing world References: <199607061358.NAA01105@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk James Raynard wrote: > > > I read someplace that it's best to drop into single user mode > > to make world, Is this fact? > > I suppose it is - you have the system (and all its resources) to > yourself, and you avoid potential "sawing off the branch you're > sitting on" problems when it starts re-installing things. > > (Although I have successfully made the world in multi-user mode > without any apparent problems). > I can see the advantages to going single user. > > If so, How does one log the make process. > > I would normally do: make |& tee make.err > > This don't work in single user mode. (Unless I did something wrong) > > If you got > > Syntax error: "&" unexpected > > this is because sh is the default shell for single-user mode and it > doesn't understand C shell syntax. Either do > > (make world | tee make.err) & > > or just enter "csh" when it asks you which shell to use (instead of > pressing the return key, which is presumably what you're doing now). > Yes, That was more then likly it.. Thanks James! I'm learning, Slow but sure.. :) > > I'm having problems making world, It keeps crashing and I don't > > get a chance to see the screen before it re-boots and eats > > my source tree. > > Any clues in /var/log/messages? Nope, Nothing.. I looked even though I didn't think make writes anything to log/messages. Although After reinstalling (to get me source tree back.. :) It did complete (sucessfully????) in single user. I didn't log it for the Above (csh/sh) reason. I'll be rebuilding again within the next day or so, This was a test before spending a bunch of time on my source.. :) Now that I know it at least completes I'll make my changes and rebuild with a pipe to a log. Thanks for the knowledge. :) -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 23:24:04 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA01717 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 23:24:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA01677 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 23:24:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-4.ime.net [206.231.148.133]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA04921; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 02:23:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31DF5835.1C08@ime.net> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 02:24:53 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Annelise Anderson CC: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: makeing world References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Annelise Anderson wrote: > > > Yes, I think so. The benefit of single user mode is probably also > (or primarily) that there's more memory available. I had 16 megs and > it failed without the swap partitions mounted. > Welp, It's a 486DX-33 with 8megs and it completed while in single user. If `shutdown now` kills the swaps, then It was done without swap space. -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 23:31:30 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA02019 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 23:31:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA02014 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 23:31:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.Stanford.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA13673; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 23:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 23:31:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: Gary Chrysler cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: makeing world In-Reply-To: <31DF5835.1C08@ime.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 7 Jul 1996, Gary Chrysler wrote: > Annelise Anderson wrote: > > > > > > > Yes, I think so. The benefit of single user mode is probably also > > (or primarily) that there's more memory available. I had 16 megs and > > it failed without the swap partitions mounted. > > Welp, It's a 486DX-33 with 8megs and it completed while in > single user. If `shutdown now` kills the swaps, then It was done > without swap space. > > -Enjoy > Gary > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Actually I think if you go to single user mode with /sbin/shutdown now, the swap partitions are probably mounted, whereas they're not if you start from a reboot with -s. Anyway, glad you got it done! Annelise > Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours > The Borg... Where minds meet > (207) 929-3848 > From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 23:51:36 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA03319 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 23:51:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA03307 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 23:51:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) id BAA11560; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 01:50:31 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199607070650.BAA11560@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: makeing world To: tcg@ime.net Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 01:50:30 -0500 (EST) Cc: andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <31DF5835.1C08@ime.net> from "Gary Chrysler" at Jul 7, 96 02:24:53 am Reply-To: dyson@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Annelise Anderson wrote: > > > > > > > Yes, I think so. The benefit of single user mode is probably also > > (or primarily) that there's more memory available. I had 16 megs and > > it failed without the swap partitions mounted. > > > > Welp, It's a 486DX-33 with 8megs and it completed while in > single user. If `shutdown now` kills the swaps, then It was done > without swap space. > Unfortunately, we currently have NO way to turn off swap space. That is one of my next projects (true swapping on files, and unswapping.) John From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Jul 6 23:59:23 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA03727 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 23:59:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ime.net (ime.net [204.97.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA03722 for ; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 23:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kimiko.tcguy.net (buxton-4.ime.net [206.231.148.133]) by ime.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA05629; Sun, 7 Jul 1996 02:59:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <31DF6081.4029@ime.net> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 03:00:17 -0400 From: Gary Chrysler Reply-To: tcg@ime.net Organization: The Computer Guy X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sridhar Krishnan CC: Greg Lehey , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1 Help References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sridhar Krishnan wrote: > > Thanks taking the time to respond. > > 1. cu -l cuaa0 > says "connected". Then when I type "ATDTE1Q0", I am expecting "OK". > Nothing happens. When I quit out with ~. it takes a minute to disconnect. > Yet another person aksed me disable PnP (plug and Play) option. I do not > know how-to. I'll give it a try. It is an internal modem and it is hard > to diagnose without any lights. I also tried cu -x9 -l cuaa0. Did not > help since there is no response from the modem. It is an MWave 28.8 > Internal modem. > Combining commands and settings in the same string makes many brain dead modems choke and puke! For testing, Set you modem speaker on (most are default on) ATM1L3 (should get OK) ATDT (should get dialtone) To disable the PnP, See you modem manual! It's probably a Jumper or dip switch! -Enjoy Gary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Improve America's Knowledge... Share yours The Borg... Where minds meet (207) 929-3848