From owner-freebsd-scsi Sun Dec 15 19:08:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id TAA03148 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 19:08:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from sag.space.lockheed.com (sag.space.lockheed.com [192.68.162.134]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id TAA03140 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 19:08:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by sag.space.lockheed.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/21Nov95-0423PM) id AA06259; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 19:08:04 -0800 Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 19:08:04 -0800 (PST) From: "Brian N. Handy" To: scsi@freebsd.org Subject: CD-R recommendations? Message-Id: X-Files: The truth is out there Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Heya folks, I've got an HP-4020i running on a 486DX2 which in turn is running 2.2-960801-SNAP. The SCSI card is an AHA-1542CP, as I recall. We had to return the first HP because....well I never quite understood why. I dropped it into my Rgrimes P-133 RockChomperDeluxe and it also failed so I decided the drive was faulty. Returned it, Mr. Vendor verified it wasn't working, sent me another one. The next one worked for quite a while. I don't actually know how many CD's were burnt on it, but it's been going for at least 3 months or so I believe. But it's starting to do the same thing again -- acting like it's getting buffer underruns. There's nothing else running on that machine, so I'm beginning to think the drive is headed for the dirt again. Since I've had such lousy luck with these, I'm thinking about picking up a different brand of CDR and giving it a try. With all this in mind...do any of the supported models hold more favor with the experts than the others? I saw one down at NCA (or Fry's?) a few days ago for less than $400, it would be *COOL* if that thing worked as I could easily justify the expense. I would have to sweet-talk people if I wanted another $900 drive. Anyway, just wondering if there were any opinions out there. I'm beginning to think the HP is a piece of junk. Thanks, Brian From owner-freebsd-scsi Sun Dec 15 19:22:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id TAA03513 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 19:22:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from crh.cl.msu.edu (crh.cl.msu.edu [35.8.1.24]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id TAA03505 for ; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 19:22:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from henrich@localhost) by crh.cl.msu.edu (8.8.2/8.8.2) id WAA03844; Sun, 15 Dec 1996 22:22:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 22:22:40 -0500 (EST) From: Charles Henrich Message-Id: <199612160322.WAA03844@crh.cl.msu.edu> To: handy@sag.space.lockheed.com, freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CD-R recommendations? Newsgroups: lists.freebsd.scsi References: <592f5d$1apf@msunews.cl.msu.edu> X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #1 (NOV) Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In lists.freebsd.scsi you write: >With all this in mind...do any of the supported models hold more favor >with the experts than the others? I saw one down at NCA (or Fry's?) a few >days ago for less than $400, it would be *COOL* if that thing worked as I >could easily justify the expense. I would have to sweet-talk people if I >wanted another $900 drive. Anyway, just wondering if there were any >opinions out there. I'm beginning to think the HP is a piece of junk. I dont know if the Yamaha's work with FreeBSD, but they are one sweet drive, the 2x is only $500 mail-order too. It will record in any format known to man, pretty reliable stuff to.. -Crh -- Charles Henrich Michigan State University henrich@msu.edu http://pilot.msu.edu/~henrich From owner-freebsd-scsi Mon Dec 16 01:24:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id BAA14296 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 01:24:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id BAA14281 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 01:24:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id KAA07790; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 10:21:11 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id KAA10496; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 10:21:10 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.4/8.6.9) id JAA06386; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 09:57:30 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199612160857.JAA06386@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: CD-R recommendations? To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 09:57:30 +0100 (MET) Cc: handy@sag.space.lockheed.com Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199612160322.WAA03844@crh.cl.msu.edu> from Charles Henrich at "Dec 15, 96 10:22:40 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Charles Henrich wrote: > I dont know if the Yamaha's work with FreeBSD, but they are one sweet drive, They don't, and Yamaha usually insists on signing an NDA before they hand out programming information. This made me finally ignore them. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-scsi Mon Dec 16 01:24:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id BAA14324 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 01:24:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id BAA14316 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 01:24:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id KAA07868; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 10:22:10 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id KAA10512; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 10:22:10 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.4/8.6.9) id KAA06418; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 10:02:27 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199612160902.KAA06418@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: CD-R recommendations? To: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD SCSI list) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 10:02:26 +0100 (MET) Cc: handy@sag.space.lockheed.com (Brian N. Handy) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: from "Brian N. Handy" at "Dec 15, 96 07:08:04 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Brian N. Handy wrote: > There's nothing else running on that machine, so I'm beginning to think > the drive is headed for the dirt again. Since I've had such lousy luck > with these, I'm thinking about picking up a different brand of CDR and > giving it a try. Just curious, your HP 4020 is an internal drive, right? Are you pretty sure you have cooled it enough? Mounting it in a normal PC tower is very likely to be _not_ enough cooling, as other people have also reporting. You typically get write aborts when it overheats. (I eventually forgot the exact SCSI error message, but ISTR that somebody told me the error is explained in their SCSI ref manual.) I can recommend the Plasmon, but i don't have an idea about their pricing these days (our RF4102 is ~ 1 year old now). They come in a separate case with a fairly low-noise temperature-controlled fan inside. Despite of the first two frisbees when starting my CD-R work, i've never seen any misbehaviour of that part. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-scsi Mon Dec 16 10:14:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id KAA22093 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 10:14:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from palrel1.hp.com (palrel1.hp.com [15.253.72.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id KAA22061 for ; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 10:13:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from srmail.sr.hp.com (srmail.sr.hp.com [15.4.45.14]) by palrel1.hp.com with ESMTP (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA27105; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 10:13:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com by srmail.sr.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA067380006; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 10:13:27 -0800 Received: from mina.sr.hp.com by hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA087010006; Mon, 16 Dec 1996 10:13:26 -0800 Message-Id: <199612161813.AA087010006@hpnmhjw.sr.hp.com> To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org (FreeBSD SCSI list), handy@sag.space.lockheed.com (Brian N. Handy) Subject: Re: CD-R recommendations? Reply-To: darrylo@sr.hp.com In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 16 Dec 1996 10:02:26 +0100." <199612160902.KAA06418@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 10:13:25 -0800 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > As Brian N. Handy wrote: > > > There's nothing else running on that machine, so I'm beginning to think > > the drive is headed for the dirt again. Since I've had such lousy luck > > with these, I'm thinking about picking up a different brand of CDR and > > giving it a try. > > Just curious, your HP 4020 is an internal drive, right? Are you > pretty sure you have cooled it enough? Mounting it in a normal PC > tower is very likely to be _not_ enough cooling, as other people have > also reporting. You typically get write aborts when it overheats. (I > eventually forgot the exact SCSI error message, but ISTR that somebody > told me the error is explained in their SCSI ref manual.) [ Note: while I'm an HP employee, I have nothing to do with CDRs, except as a user. I'm just a messenger. ;-) ] I forgot where I saw it, but the maximum operating temperature of the HP 4020i is something like 35deg.C, or 95deg.F. Yes, it's that low, and I can easily imagine a 4020i "overheating" inside many PC cases (which tend to have poor cooling). Hmm. I might have seen this at: http://www.cd-info.com/CDIC/Technology/CD-R/HP-FAQ.html -- Darryl Okahata Internet: darrylo@sr.hp.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Hewlett-Packard, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. From owner-freebsd-scsi Tue Dec 17 08:04:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id IAA01599 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 08:04:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from tibet.stepnet.com ([206.14.120.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id IAA01561; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 08:04:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ping@localhost) by tibet.stepnet.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) id IAA12833; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 08:04:19 -0800 (PST) From: Ping Mai Message-Id: <199612171604.IAA12833@tibet.stepnet.com> Subject: HELP: dump to EXB-8700 tape drive hangs freebsd To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 08:04:19 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I posted this to freebsd-questions last Saturday but no one answered. I guess I'll try hardware and scsi. Please excuse me if this is not appropriate. I was using dump to backup to a Exabyte 8700 (actually a 8505) 8mm tape drive hanging off a Adaptec 1510 when the system hung. I could not get any response from the console. I could ping the box but could not login from telnet. The command I used was: dump 0ubBf 128 14000000 /dev/nrst0 /mnt/u0 >>& log /mnt/u0 is a 1.5G partition. Running the same command earlier on smaller filesystems had no problem. info on tape host: Script started on Sat Dec 14 21:22:43 1996 dmes[501]ping@red:~> dmesg FreeBSD 2.2-960801-SNAP #0: Fri Oct 4 19:07:19 PDT 1996 ping@red.stepnet.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/RED Calibrating clock(s) relative to mc146818A clock... i8254 clock: 1193901 Hz CPU: i486 DX2 (486-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x435 Stepping=5 Features=0x3 real memory = 25165824 (24576K bytes) avail memory = 22560768 (22032K bytes) ahc0: at 0x1c00-0x1cff irq 11 on isa ahc0: aic7770 >= Rev E, Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 4 SCBs ahc0 waiting for scsi devices to settle (ahc0:0:0): "HP C3325A 5020" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 2069MB (4238836 512 byte sectors) (ahc0:6:0): "TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-3601TA 0725" type 5 removable SCSI 2 cd0(ahc0:6:0): CD-ROM cd0(ahc0:6:0): NOT READY asc:3a,0 Medium not present can't get the size Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 at 0x280-0x29f irq 9 on isa ed0: address 00:20:18:30:4d:08, type NE2000 (16 bit) ed1 at 0x300-0x31f irq 10 on isa ed1: address 00:00:e8:c2:a7:fd, type NE2000 (16 bit) sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in fd1: 1.2MB 5.25in ft0: Archive tape wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 329MB (675450 sectors), 790 cyls, 15 heads, 57 S/T, 512 B/S aic0 at 0x340-0x35f irq 12 on isa aic0 waiting for scsi devices to settle (aic0:2:0): "EXABYTE EXB-8505 0040" type 1 removable SCSI 2 st0(aic0:2:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x0, drive empty npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface [502]ping@red:~> mt -t /dev/nrst0 status Present Mode: Density = 0x00 Blocksize variable ---------available modes--------- Mode 0: Density = 0x00 Blocksize variable Mode 1: Density = X3.136-1986 Blocksize = 512 bytes Mode 2: Density = X3.39-1986 Blocksize variable Mode 3: Density = X3.54-1986 Blocksize variable [503]ping@red:~> ls -l /dev/nrst0 crw-rw---- 2 root operator 14, 1 Dec 14 21:02 /dev/nrst0 [504]ping@red:~> exit exit Script done on Sat Dec 14 21:23:11 1996 Thanks in advance for anyone's help! From owner-freebsd-scsi Tue Dec 17 11:29:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id LAA13119 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 11:29:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (root@mexico.brainstorm.fr [193.56.58.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id LAA13099; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 11:29:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (brasil.brainstorm.fr [193.56.58.33]) by mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA04843; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 20:28:54 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id UAA03525; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 20:28:27 +0100 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.8.4/keltia-uucp-2.9) id UAA15262; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 20:25:01 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 20:25:00 +0100 From: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HELP: dump to EXB-8700 tape drive hangs freebsd References: <199612171604.IAA12833@tibet.stepnet.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.54 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT ctm#2815 In-Reply-To: <199612171604.IAA12833@tibet.stepnet.com>; from Ping Mai on Dec 17, 1996 08:04:19 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Ping Mai: > I was using dump to backup to a Exabyte 8700 (actually a 8505) 8mm > tape drive hanging off a Adaptec 1510 when the system hung. I could Why don't you try to hook it on the Adaptec 284X instead ? A 1510 doesn't do DMA nor busmaster... > ahc0: at 0x1c00-0x1cff irq 11 on isa > ahc0: aic7770 >= Rev E, Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 4 SCBs -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 3.0-CURRENT #31: Tue Dec 3 23:52:58 CET 1996 From owner-freebsd-scsi Tue Dec 17 14:52:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA25445 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 14:52:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA25430; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 14:52:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id XAA16656; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:52:03 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id XAA18570; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:52:03 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.4/8.6.9) id XAA17898; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:48:21 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199612172248.XAA17898@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: HELP: dump to EXB-8700 tape drive hangs freebsd To: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD SCSI list) Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:48:21 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: from Ollivier Robert at "Dec 17, 96 08:25:00 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Ollivier Robert wrote: > Why don't you try to hook it on the Adaptec 284X instead ? A 1510 doesn't > do DMA nor busmaster... ...and the aic driver is a known rogue. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-scsi Tue Dec 17 18:09:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id SAA09100 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 18:09:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from nexgen.HiWAAY.net (max2-132.HiWAAY.net [206.104.22.132]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id SAA09086 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 18:09:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from nexgen.HiWAAY.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nexgen.HiWAAY.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA06412 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 1996 20:09:42 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199612180209.UAA06412@nexgen.HiWAAY.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Subject: A rotten CP30540 From: dkelly@HiWAAY.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 20:09:41 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk A poor friend of mine was given a couple of rotten Conner CP30540 hard drives. I'm trying to help him make them into something usable. The problem is thousands of bad blocks. More bad blocks than the drive has pre-allocated spares. Have found hints this involves mode page 4. Any advice? Attempts at low level formatting with various Macintosh disk utilities always results in an error. Looks like it fails about 35% into the format, if you can trust the displayed thermometer. Simply testing with automatic bad block remapping finally got 90% to 95% thru the drive before running out of spares. I don't trust a drive with this many additions to the grown bad block list. OTOH, its something to play with that I can't ruin any worse. Was thinking of gutting it to put clock movement in... :-) Running it continuosly the past 4 days suggests most of the drive is now reliable. So maybe there is something to salvage here. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-freebsd-scsi Wed Dec 18 08:09:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id IAA12891 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 08:09:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from roundtable.cif.rochester.edu (roundtable.cif.rochester.edu [128.151.220.14]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id IAA12883 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 08:09:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sadmin@localhost) by roundtable.cif.rochester.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) id LAA05707 for freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 11:09:33 -0500 (EST) From: Security Administrator Message-Id: <199612181609.LAA05707@roundtable.cif.rochester.edu> Subject: good way to add disks? To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 11:09:33 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk 12-18-96 Is there a good and easy way to add new disks to the SCSI chain? Perhaps a better question is, is there a good and easy way to partition/format old/new disks without having to revert to using the original install disk for FreeBSD? My only recourse is to do a mock install on my new drive, boot up the system and copy everything over from my old drive onto the new one, nuke the entire filesystem on the old one, reimplement a filesystem on the old one, copy everything back from the new drive, and then (phew!) erase everything on the new drive and REBOOT! off of the old drive. Also, can anyone recommend the best way to move this kind of information without losing data? I was thinking of doing a dump of the entire filesystem on the old drive into a single file on the new one. My hope is that all of the permissions, times, and other amenities will be maintained in this way. Tar doesn't catch everything. As a recovering SunOS administrator, I am used to the good 'ol format utility that allowed all of this to be done painlessly in single/multi user mode without these kinds of hassles. Any help would be appreciated. Josh Pincus -- System Security Administrator Computer Interest Floor University of Rochester Rochester, NY 14627 sadmin@roundtable.cif.rochester.edu From owner-freebsd-scsi Wed Dec 18 08:32:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id IAA14204 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 08:32:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk [129.215.144.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id IAA14195 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 08:32:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from richard@localhost) by deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk (8.6.10/8.6.12) id QAA14500; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 16:28:32 GMT Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 16:28:32 GMT Message-Id: <199612181628.QAA14500@deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> From: Richard Tobin Subject: Re: good way to add disks? To: Security Administrator , freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Security Administrator's message of Wed, 18 Dec 1996 11:09:33 -0500 (EST) Organization: just say no Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Also, can anyone recommend the best way to move this kind of information > without losing data? I was thinking of doing a dump of the entire > filesystem on the old drive into a single file on the new one. My hope > is that all of the permissions, times, and other amenities will be > maintained in this way. Tar doesn't catch everything. You should be able to do a dump onto the raw disk device, without even making a file system on it. -- Richard From owner-freebsd-scsi Wed Dec 18 14:53:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA03843 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 14:53:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA03824 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 14:53:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id XAA08500; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 23:51:15 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id XAA11260; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 23:51:09 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.4/8.6.9) id XAA24183; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 23:31:05 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199612182231.XAA24183@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: good way to add disks? To: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD SCSI list) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 23:31:05 +0100 (MET) Cc: sadmin@roundtable.cif.rochester.edu Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199612181628.QAA14500@deacon.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> from Richard Tobin at "Dec 18, 96 04:28:32 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Richard Tobin wrote: > You should be able to do a dump onto the raw disk device, without even > making a file system on it. Not if you think of `dump' in terms of dump(8)/restore(8). Only if you think of `dump' in terms of dd(1) -- but who would be willing to do this these days? -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-scsi Wed Dec 18 14:54:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA03986 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 14:54:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA03942 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 14:53:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id XAA08536; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 23:52:28 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id XAA11274; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 23:52:27 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.4/8.6.9) id XAA24199; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 23:34:02 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199612182234.XAA24199@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: good way to add disks? To: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD SCSI list) Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 23:34:02 +0100 (MET) Cc: sadmin@roundtable.cif.rochester.edu (Security Administrator) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199612181609.LAA05707@roundtable.cif.rochester.edu> from Security Administrator at "Dec 18, 96 11:09:33 am" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Security Administrator wrote: > Is there a good and easy way to add new disks to the SCSI chain? Perhaps > a better question is, is there a good and easy way to partition/format > old/new disks without having to revert to using the original install disk > for FreeBSD? No need for a boot floppy, you can always use /stand/sysinstall. (This didn't work very well in earlier releases however.) ISTR that Hellmuth Michaelis once wrote a tool that should do what you're asking for. He has probably dropped it on freefall's incoming. Ask him at hm@kts.org. (Somebody should perhaps make it an official `port' or something. So if you've tested it and found it good, ask freebsd-ports whether there's somebody willing to do the port.) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-scsi Wed Dec 18 15:53:42 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA11418 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 15:53:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from quack.kfu.com (quack.kfu.com [204.147.226.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA11407 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 15:53:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nsayer@localhost) by quack.kfu.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA27929 for scsi@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 15:53:37 -0800 Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 15:53:37 -0800 From: Nick Sayer Message-Id: <199612182353.PAA27929@quack.kfu.com> To: scsi@freebsd.org Subject: AMD PCI SCSI Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk My new HP Omnibook has an AMD PCI SCSI chip in it, which is not supported. In what category does this lack of support fall? 1. Nobody is interested, you're on your own. 2. Nobody has volunteered yet, but we hear this question a lot. 3. Someone is working on it, but it isn't done yet. ... or perhaps there is some other category to name? Thanks in advance. From owner-freebsd-scsi Wed Dec 18 16:47:22 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA19260 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 16:47:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from Octopussy.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (Octopussy.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.166.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA19251 for ; Wed, 18 Dec 1996 16:47:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (annexr3-16.slip.Uni-Koeln.DE) by Octopussy.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE with SMTP id AA18187 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 19 Dec 1996 01:47:05 +0100 Received: (from se@localhost) by x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (8.8.4/8.6.9) id BAA08174; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 01:47:02 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 01:47:01 +0100 From: se@freebsd.org (Stefan Esser) To: nsayer@quack.kfu.com (Nick Sayer) Cc: scsi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD PCI SCSI References: <199612182353.PAA27929@quack.kfu.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.54-PL15 Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199612182353.PAA27929@quack.kfu.com>; from Nick Sayer on Dec 18, 1996 15:53:37 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Dec 18, nsayer@quack.kfu.com (Nick Sayer) wrote: > My new HP Omnibook has an AMD PCI SCSI chip in it, which is not > supported. In what category does this lack of support fall? Hmmm, what about telling us first what FreeBSD release you are running, before making such a broad statement ? :) > 1. Nobody is interested, you're on your own. No! > 2. Nobody has volunteered yet, but we hear this question a lot. No and yes :) > 3. Someone is working on it, but it isn't done yet. No! > ... or perhaps there is some other category to name? Yes, sure. Just try the "amd" driver in -current :-) And please tell me, whether it does anything useful for you. This is the Tekram DC-390 driver, which was specific to their AMD 53c974 based controller cards. I added a small patch that I expect to allow the driver to work with generic AMD SCSI controllers. But you have the chance to find out and tell ... Regards, STefan PS: And please let me know how well it works for you ... From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Dec 19 15:55:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA21340 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 15:55:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA21330 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 15:55:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id AAA04304; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 00:51:43 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id AAA04732; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 00:51:31 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.4/8.6.9) id AAA01309; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 00:44:58 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199612192344.AAA01309@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: A rotten CP30540 To: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD SCSI list) Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 00:44:58 +0100 (MET) Cc: dkelly@HiWAAY.net Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199612180209.UAA06412@nexgen.HiWAAY.net> from "dkelly@HiWAAY.net" at "Dec 17, 96 08:09:41 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As dkelly@HiWAAY.net wrote: > A poor friend of mine was given a couple of rotten Conner CP30540 hard > drives. I'm trying to help him make them into something usable. The problem > is thousands of bad blocks. More bad blocks than the drive has > pre-allocated spares. Have found hints this involves mode page 4. Any > advice? Hmpf. I wouldn't use it either... You could give /sbin/scsiformat a try if you prefer. It's a plain FORMAT MEDIUM command which usually involves entering all new defects into the drive's defect list. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-scsi Thu Dec 19 16:21:58 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id QAA22528 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 16:21:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from prospero.phbtsus.com (prospero.phbtsus.com [192.40.29.153]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA22523 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 16:21:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199612200021.QAA22523@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: by prospero.phbtsus.com (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA18395; Thu, 19 Dec 1996 17:21:18 -0700 From: Karl Isham Subject: Adaptec 1540CP and DAT Drives To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 17:21:18 -0700 (MST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am attempting to install a tape backup with an Adaptec 1540CP and version 2.1.5 Release 0 running on a 486 Gateway machine. The adapter and the drive probe as advertised. Simple commands like rewind work fine. However, when I try to tar a test file to the tape, the drive quits after about 30 seconds, and I get the following complaints: st0(aha0:0:0) timed out adapter not taking commands.. frozen?! Debugger("aha1542") called. AGAIN tar: can't write to /dev/rst0: Input/output error aha0: MBO 02 and not 00 (free) This occurs with either of the tapes drives I have available: an HP 1533A or a Sony SDT-S5200. After reading the mail archives, I disabled Sync Negotiation and Fast SCSI, but the same result prevails. The HP 1533A does work with a borrowed Adaptec 1520A--but the Sony will not work with the 1520A! Any help is appreciated! --- Karl Isham karl@phbtsus.com From owner-freebsd-scsi Fri Dec 20 09:52:15 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id JAA29915 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 09:52:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA29902 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 09:52:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id SAA13148; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 18:51:18 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id SAA17556; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 18:51:18 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.4/8.6.9) id SAA04928; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 18:45:04 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199612201745.SAA04928@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: Adaptec 1540CP and DAT Drives To: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD SCSI list) Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 18:45:04 +0100 (MET) Cc: karl@phbtsus.com (Karl Isham) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199612200021.QAA22523@freefall.freebsd.org> from Karl Isham at "Dec 19, 96 05:21:18 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Karl Isham wrote: > The HP 1533A does work with a borrowed Adaptec 1520A--but the Sony will not > work with the 1520A! Standard question: are you sure your cabling and termination is OK? The 1520A might by more forgiving in this respect, even though the aic driver is already very rusty. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-scsi Fri Dec 20 17:04:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA18262 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:04:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from zen.nash.org (nash.pr.mcs.net [204.95.47.72]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id RAA18257 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:04:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from zen.nash.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zen.nash.org (8.8.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA15368 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 19:05:27 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <32BB37D7.FF6D5DF@mcs.com> Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 19:05:27 -0600 From: Alex Nash X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.6.1-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: scsi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: current worm info pointers References: <199612200800.JAA03508@uriah.heep.sax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk J Wunsch wrote: > Interesting. That's basically also what PR 2225 says. I wonder > why scsiconf.c is now broken... > > Ahyep! > > I know why this happens! And yes, changing the two sets of records > _is_ the right action. Previously, there was no `catchall' entry for > CD devices. This caused some (broken) CD drives to respond on all > LUNs where they should only respond on a single LUN, that's why we've > now got the catchall entry. Of course, since the list is walked down > front to back, this catchall entry now also catches the HP and Philips > CD-R drives (since they claim to be of type `Readonly' aka. CDROM). I guess I can stop looking for the reason why :) Alex From owner-freebsd-scsi Fri Dec 20 23:51:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id XAA01101 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 23:51:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA01081 for ; Fri, 20 Dec 1996 23:51:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id IAA01541; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 08:50:56 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id IAA00849; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 08:50:55 +0100 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.4/8.6.9) id IAA09944; Sat, 21 Dec 1996 08:34:11 +0100 (MET) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199612210734.IAA09944@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: current worm info pointers To: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org (FreeBSD SCSI list) Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 08:34:11 +0100 (MET) Cc: nash@mcs.com (Alex Nash) Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <32BB37D7.FF6D5DF@mcs.com> from Alex Nash at "Dec 20, 96 07:05:27 pm" X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL17 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Alex Nash wrote: > > I know why this happens! And yes, changing the two sets of records > > _is_ the right action. > I guess I can stop looking for the reason why :) ...and install the -current version. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-)