From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Jul 13 06:36:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA18518 for doc-outgoing; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 06:36:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hwcn.org (main.hwcn.org [199.212.94.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA18478; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 06:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (ac199@james.hwcn.org [199.212.94.66]) by hwcn.org (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id JAA20935; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 09:36:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (ac199@localhost) by james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id JAA15674; Sun, 13 Jul 1997 09:37:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca: ac199 owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 09:37:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Vanderhoek X-Sender: ac199@james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca Reply-To: hoek@hwcn.org To: Jason Wells cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-docs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Word format handbook In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19970713065559.007ac340@jcwells.deskmail.washington.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 13 Jul 1997, Jason Wells wrote: > I am hoping that since I could not figure out whether or not my printer was > postscript compatible, that it is not postscript compatible. If it turns > out that my printer is ps compatible then I just wasted a lot of time. It is. It almost always is. :) Install apsfilter from the ports collection (must build from a port---there is no package), and then do lpr handbook.ps on the postscript version of the handbook. -- Outnumbered? Maybe. Outspoken? Never! tIM...HOEk From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 14 08:23:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA26598 for doc-outgoing; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 08:23:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA26593 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 08:23:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA22129; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 08:22:18 -0700 (PDT) To: "Christian" Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Newsletter In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 14 Jul 1997 09:59:59 EST." <253B991DE7@colstate.edu> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 08:22:18 -0700 Message-ID: <22125.868893738@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-doc@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [Cc'd to doc as the answer is of general interest] > Hi Jordan, > > I've been thinking about perhaps writing an article or two for the FreeBSD > newsletter, and I was wondering if you have a list of things that you would > like to see written about. That way I could look at the list and find one or > two things that I am reasonably knowledgeable about and write on them. OK, great, that's the spirit we like to see! :-) The first issue of the newsletter just went out, in fact, with the first 20,000 copies going to Walnut Creek CDROM's FreeBSD mailing list and to those who registered with http://www.freebsd.org/register.html. Now's a good time to start getting articles together for the next issue, I'd say! :) As far as ideas go, we had an idea list we were knocking around for the first issue and I'd say it's still largely apropos for any future issues, so here it is (this list of ideas comes from Bob Bruce, owner/pres of Walnut Creek CDROM): Ideas for articles in the FreeBSD Newsletter ---------------------------------------------------------------------- * An article comparing FreeBSD to other OS's, or unique features A comparison of FreeBSD and Linux A comparison of FreeBSD and Solaris A comparison of FreeBSD and BSDI A comparison of FreeBSD and NetBSD A comparison of FreeBSD and Windows-NT ---------------------------------------------------------------------- * An article about kernel internals Each issue should try to have an article the explains some section of the kernel. -- VM system -- Filesytem -- Comparison of FFS vs LFS -- How to write a device driver ---------------------------------------------------------------------- * An article about application programming with some working code -- Programming with POSIX threads -- Programming with sockets -- Programming with mapped files -- How to use GDB to debug your program -- How to use gprof to profile and optimize your program -- Porting a program to FreeBSD. What are the most likely porting problems and how to fix them -- Using Gnu "Configure" to make your programs portable ---------------------------------------------------------------------- * An article answering a common tech support problem -- Installing FreeBSD -- common problems, and how to work around them -- Setting up X Windows -- Coping with media failures. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- * A corporate or individual profile or interview An article about an organization using FreeBSD for an interesting or innovative application. Or an interview of a FreeBSD developer and the projects under development. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- * An article about System Administration -- Using FreeBSD as a Webserver -- Using FreeBSD as a Firewall -- Using FreeBSD as a Database server -- How to do reliable backups on FreeBSD -- How to add a new user -- How to set up a nameserver -- How to add a new machine to your network -- How to set up a newsserver -- How to find security problems on your system -- How to set up an ftp server -- How to use mirror -- How to find and fix your systems bottlenecks -- Duties of a postmaster, how to configure sendmail -- How to install and use Netscape -- " " " Gcc -- " " " Postgres -- " " " Emacs -- " " " Apache -- " " " ???? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- * A cheat sheet or tutorial Each issue could contain a short "cheat sheet" similar to the "quick reference guides" published by SSC. These would be something that would make people keep old issues, and maybe cut out and laminate or tape up on the wall next to their monitor. -- sed/ed/vi/perl regular expressions -- standard emacs key bindings -- vi -- shell programming -- tcsh -- perl regex, file flags and command line options -- Standard C library, C operator precedence -- gdb -- standard Java classes -- HTML tags ---------------------------------------------------------------------- * An article about freeware -- features of the latest gcc -- msql vs. postgres95 -- The latest cool new freeware package -- Making a Rockridge CDROM using mkisofs ---------------------------------------------------------------------- * A review of a couple really useful websites The FreeBSD Website Other FreeBSD related websites Websites with resources for programmers, and system administrators ---------------------------------------------------------------------- * A brief synopsis of a Unix utility or an interesting Shell script -- perl one liners -- shell programming -- regular expressions ---------------------------------------------------------------------- * Reviews of new books, hardware or commercial software Books: -- The "4.4 BSD Internals" book -- Greg Lehey's thick book -- ??? Hardware: -- New DVD drives that work with FreeBSD -- List of vendors that supply FreeBSD capable hardware -- ??? From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 14 10:35:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA03913 for doc-outgoing; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 10:35:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netgsi.com (grok.netgsi.com [192.55.203.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA03907 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 10:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by NetGSI.com (8.7.5/-A/UX-AMR-1.0) id NAA01572; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 13:34:40 -0400 From: cjohnson@netgsi.com (Christopher T. Johnson) Message-Id: <199707141734.NAA01572@NetGSI.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Newsletter To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 13:34:39 -0400 (EDT) Cc: PLAZAS_CHRISTIAN@COLSTATE.EDU, doc@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <22125.868893738@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Jul 14, 97 08:22:18 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > * An article comparing FreeBSD to other OS's, or unique features > > A comparison of FreeBSD and Linux Given that I've already started this as a report to some friends, I'd like to polish it and submit it for consideration. My question is: How many words can an article be? Thanks, Chris Johnson P.S. The first pass is at http://www.netgsi.com/~cjohnson. It needs some comments folded into it and it needs to be updated from original impressions to a more experenced impression. From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 14 11:17:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA05712 for doc-outgoing; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 11:17:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05707 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 11:17:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA22891; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 11:16:44 -0700 (PDT) To: cjohnson@netgsi.com (Christopher T. Johnson) cc: PLAZAS_CHRISTIAN@COLSTATE.EDU, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD Newsletter In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 14 Jul 1997 13:34:39 EDT." <199707141734.NAA01572@NetGSI.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 11:16:44 -0700 Message-ID: <22887.868904204@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > * An article comparing FreeBSD to other OS's, or unique features > > > > A comparison of FreeBSD and Linux > > Given that I've already started this as a report to some friends, I'd like > to polish it and submit it for consideration. > > My question is: How many words can an article be? As long as you need it to be - if it's too long for the newsletter, we'll put the original article up as a tutorial and just take an edited version for the newsletter. :-) > P.S. The first pass is at http://www.netgsi.com/~cjohnson. It needs > some comments folded into it and it needs to be updated from original > impressions to a more experenced impression. Let me know when you have the updated version ready and I'll be happy to send detailed comments. I've noticed a few errors here and there in your description of freebsd behavior, but if you say you wrote this very early in the game then chances are you already know what they are and will fix them in the 2nd draft. :-) In any case, a comparison from a (former?) Linux user would definitely be much more welcome than the biased FreeBSD-only perspective most of us could bring to such an article, so this is good stuff - I'm looking forward to the 2nd pass! Jordan From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 14 13:34:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA12659 for doc-outgoing; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 13:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kevin.sunshine.net (pme86.sunshine.net [204.191.205.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12640 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 13:34:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cagey@localhost) by kevin.sunshine.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA01284; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 13:26:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: kevin.sunshine.net: cagey owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 13:26:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin Eliuk X-Sender: cagey@kevin.sunshine.net To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: "FreeBSD Doc." Subject: Re: FreeBSD Newsletter In-Reply-To: <22125.868893738@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > The first issue of the newsletter just went out, in fact, with the > first 20,000 copies going to Walnut Creek CDROM's FreeBSD mailing list > and to those who registered with http://www.freebsd.org/register.html. > Now's a good time to start getting articles together for the next > issue, I'd say! :) When can I expect the newsletter? How can I check if (for sure) whether I am registered? I did register, although I haven't seen the newsletter yet in my emailbox. (This could be a problem due to the ISP I use just moved there mail server, with some problems:( ) > As far as ideas go, we had an idea list we were knocking around for > the first issue and I'd say it's still largely apropos for any future > issues, so here it is (this list of ideas comes from Bob Bruce, > owner/pres of Walnut Creek CDROM): -- =| Regards, =| FreeBSD ==> http://www.FreeBSD.org =| Kevin G. Eliuk =| "Free at last, free at last, ...." British Columbia *BSD User Directory ==> http://www.cynic.net From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Jul 14 13:46:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA13412 for doc-outgoing; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 13:46:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13407 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 13:46:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA23603; Mon, 14 Jul 1997 13:45:49 -0700 (PDT) To: Kevin Eliuk cc: "FreeBSD Doc." Subject: Re: FreeBSD Newsletter In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 14 Jul 1997 13:26:42 PDT." Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 13:45:49 -0700 Message-ID: <23600.868913149@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > When can I expect the newsletter? If you signed up for email delivery, not just yet - we're doing the postal stuff first. > How can I check if (for sure) whether I am registered? No way as yet - I'll fix this at some point. Jordan From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jul 15 08:20:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA03852 for doc-outgoing; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 08:20:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Shelby.HomeMortgageUSA.Com (gus@Shelby.HomeMortgageUSA.com [207.229.69.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA03811 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 08:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (gus@localhost) by Shelby.HomeMortgageUSA.Com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA01239 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 08:21:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: Shelby.HomeMortgageUSA.Com: gus owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 08:21:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Gus Bourg To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: YP/NIS Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-doc@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I run a few unix machines on a small time basis, however it has appeared to me that I am going to need to find a way to make my user's accounts current on every unix machine. I only ise FreeBSD, and so I figured it wouldn't be that hard to setup YP and NIS. I guess I was wrong. :) I was wondering when you guys are going to come out with some documentation on how to get it working? I've tried reading the manual pages, but some are missing and the ones in solaris are very operating system specific. Anyways, any documenation you might have would really help me out. Thanks, -Gus Gus Bourg From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jul 15 11:59:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA17197 for doc-outgoing; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 11:59:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.keyworld.net (root@mail.keyworld.net [194.21.164.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17168 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 11:59:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from console.keyworld.net (ppp16.keyworld.net [194.21.164.79]) by mail.keyworld.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id UAA14022 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 20:58:38 +0200 Message-ID: <33CBC991.16B9E046@keyworld.net> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 21:03:46 +0200 From: Jesmond Navarro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: DPT Cards X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Everyone, At the moment I am using Linux Redhat but I really would like to switch over to FreeBSD as it is much more stable and powerful. My problem is that I have 5 DPT SCSI cards installed in my network for mirroring. Are they supported under FreeBSD? Thanks J. Navarro From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Jul 15 14:24:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA25027 for doc-outgoing; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 14:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ss5.paco.odessa.ua (ss5.paco.odessa.ua [195.114.128.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA24965 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 1997 14:21:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 195.114.128.50.paco.net (dsp-1-60.paco.net [195.114.129.160]) by ss5.paco.odessa.ua (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA28745 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 1997 00:19:38 +0300 (EET DST) Message-Id: <199707152119.AAA28745@ss5.paco.odessa.ua> From: "=?Windows-1251?Q?=D7=E5=F5_=D1=E5=F0=E3=E5=E9?=" To: Subject: get me,pleace Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 00:22:45 +0400 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Priority: 1 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk chech@paco.net freeBSD Hand Book From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jul 17 22:03:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA28808 for doc-outgoing; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 22:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kevin.sunshine.net (pme09.sunshine.net [204.191.205.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA28799; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 22:03:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cagey@localhost) by kevin.sunshine.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA00679; Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:56:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: kevin.sunshine.net: cagey owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 21:55:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin Eliuk X-Sender: cagey@kevin.sunshine.net To: FreeBSD Chat , "FreeBSD Doc." Subject: Re: Maybe a lot of inputs for new users (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi All, I thought -chat and -doc would be a good place to forward this reply from Per regarding his camp experiences. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 02:41:19 +0200 To: Kevin Eliuk From: Per Eegehauge Subject: Re: Maybe a lot of inputs for new users Hi Kevin I finally got some time to answer some of your questions. My 'job' here at the camp takes up most of my time - It's morning here i DK now. If you want further details - please mail me. Tomorrow is our last day here at the camp. Sorry for the mess and my English. This is written on a w95 box. My ISP has some problems accepting chap at high speeds. > I am looking for input from new users that would be helpful > in writing Lessons for a Learn interface. > > The areas I would be most interested in: > i) Having Fun:) That's no problem. I got a lot of old (and very odd) computer gear from a couple of local companies. When it was too hot to do computers we went to the beach. Manuals and learning C - I'm not a very good C programmer - was done after dinner. We had a lot of fun. It's no joke that the worlds most popular program is 'hello, world'. At my job I use ADA. Talk about syntax and type checking! I really needed an example of how to use ncurses. The W95 graphic interface has moved a lot of users from text based OS's. > ii) An appraisal of how easy/difficult installation > and setup went. The installation went pretty easy for most of the kids. We made a diskette with the installation program. That's a great way to do the installation. We also tried the net installation but I couldn't get it to work - probably because that the BSD servers were to busy? I had some difficulties with the different types of disks and disk controllers. As I said it was a lot of odd hardware! We got 6 386/486 running in two days. I missed lot of ram modules for the 386 (old type) so most of the machines are 8MB. The 486 which use the 72 pin modules are all with 16MB - one with 32MB. Now we have 15 machines with BSD 2.2.2 and windoze 95 (don't tell Bill) running. The W95 is needed for playing games. The games that comes with BSD is a problem! We started 'make world' before going to the beach or before dinner. The 386 take almost a whole day to compile. The oldest kids sat up most of the night to see how their make went. There were no installation problems that I couldn't solve - my luck! I was very happy for my book for the 2.1.5 version. I only had one printer and the budget I had to work with was very small. > iii) What areas of operation they found most > interesting(cool, neat, narly, whatever). We have talked a lot about this. I think that the most 'cool' thing was to assemble all the gear and to find out that we had a working machine after a lot of hard work. We had a lot of fun trying to see the difference between W95 and BSD. The W95 is great but it slows down a 386 to a crawl. All the 386 with BSD run a lot faster. I have told all the kids that they can write/call me and ask questions and that I would like some kind of comments of how they think that the camp project was arranged. Unfortunately there is a lot there don't have access to the Internet but I'll se them all again in September. They must have got a lot of experience with BSD then. All got a CD with the 2.2.2 version with all the doc. and they know how to contact the BSD questions list. I allowed two of the boys to use my email account to write some questions to the list. They got a lot of answers. We were very impressed of the 'service'. I hope that some of the kids can answer some of the mails at the question list after they have got some experience with BSD. > iv) What goals (in your observations) would would > attract new user. GAMES! That's a real problem. Most of the kids are used to play games. Here in DK we have a lot of shops where you can pay some money and then play all the popular games for a couple of hours. The setup for printing is a problem for a new user. Some kind of menu in the /stand/sysinstall of how to set up a non-PS printer would be a nice thing. I'm working on this problem but right now I haven't got the time. Then there is the new feature with the X system. ALL wants X! I had to setup most of the PC's to use the vga_mono (very old VGA adapters). Mono worked on all machines. I know that the X system is not a BSD problem but something has to be done to attract new users. Some of the kids missed an office pack. The text-based editors don't attract new users! > v) If it doesn't take the fun out of it, a quick > overview by the kids, from there experience. I have tried to get Peter and Niels (the two real freaks) to write down their experiences but the are afraid of using English. When we meet again in September I will have some more info for you. This mail is just for info. I have a lot of other material that I would like to share with the BSD community. Btw: How do I join the BSD doc group. Best wishes from a hot a very humid Denmark - Per Per Eegehauge mailto:phce@image.dk Arnestedet 17 mail2:per@decus.dk DK-2720 Vanloese Denmark ---------- END Forwarded message ---------- What a great way to introduce newusers to FreeBSD :-) -- =| Regards, =| FreeBSD ==> http://www.FreeBSD.org =| Kevin G. Eliuk =| "Free at last, free at last, ...." British Columbia *BSD User Directory ==> http://www.cynic.net From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Jul 18 11:22:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA07633 for doc-outgoing; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 11:22:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tob1.telemedia.se ([194.23.203.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA07627 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 11:22:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gaffa.infomedia.telia.se (richarde@t11o2p6.telia.com [194.22.189.177]) by tob1.telemedia.se (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA21312 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 1997 20:22:27 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <33CFB4FE.1008@tob1.telemedia.se> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 20:25:02 +0200 From: Richard Engstrom X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 [sv] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Doc project Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk i would like to join the project. richarde@tob1.telemedia.se Regards Richard From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jul 19 01:27:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA14071 for doc-outgoing; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 01:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.kornet.nm.kr (mail.kornet.nm.kr [168.126.63.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA14066 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 01:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tiger.korea.ac.kr (tiger.korea.ac.kr [163.152.209.1]) by mail.kornet.nm.kr (8.6.12h2/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA10749 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 17:27:02 +0900 Received: from [163.152.217.73] by tiger.korea.ac.kr (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA79655; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 17:19:46 +0900 Message-Id: <33D07A46.72E9A214@tiger.korea.ac.kr> Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 17:26:46 +0900 From: Choi woo hyuk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: How to using Kernel Debugging. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I purchased a FreeBSD 2.1.7. I intended to debugging in a kernel, but i couldn't because i lacked an expert knowledge about kernel Debugging. My reference book didn't introduce me in detail . I have to master it during a short time. Please , help me to helpful document about kernel debugging, Books, Internet sites and so on. I will wait for your message. From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jul 19 01:28:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA14152 for doc-outgoing; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 01:28:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.kornet.nm.kr (mail.kornet.nm.kr [168.126.63.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA14145 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 01:28:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tiger.korea.ac.kr (tiger.korea.ac.kr [163.152.209.1]) by mail.kornet.nm.kr (8.6.12h2/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA10764 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 17:28:41 +0900 Received: from [163.152.217.73] by tiger.korea.ac.kr (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA79663; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 17:21:28 +0900 Message-Id: <33D07AA4.51A4F55F@tiger.korea.ac.kr> Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 17:28:20 +0900 From: Choi woo hyuk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: How to using Kernel Debugging. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I purchased a FreeBSD 2.1.7. I intended to debugging in a kernel, but i couldn't because i lacked an expert knowledge about kernel Debugging. My reference book didn't introduce me in detail . I have to master it during a short time. Please , help me to helpful documents about kernel debugging, Books, Internet sites and so on. I will wait for your message. From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jul 19 10:27:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA04244 for doc-outgoing; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 10:27:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wombat.sk.sympatico.ca (wombat.sk.sympatico.ca [142.165.5.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA04239 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 10:27:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 142.165.5.8.sk.sympatico.ca (avro18.sk.sympatico.ca [142.165.67.18]) by wombat.sk.sympatico.ca with SMTP (8.7.1/8.7.1) id LAA14845 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 11:23:37 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <33D0F8FD.51B7@sk.sympatico.ca> Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 11:27:26 -0600 From: Darren Rauckman Reply-To: raucd@sk.sympatico.ca X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How do you read off of the installation disk to read the help files, and i have a c drive and a d drive, i want to install on the d drive so how can i do this, whenever i go into the install it automatically goes onto the c drive. Please email raucd@sk.sympatico.ca for any solutions From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Jul 19 19:50:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA24464 for doc-outgoing; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 19:50:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.msy.bellsouth.net (mail.msy.bellsouth.net [205.152.128.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA24457 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 19:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beast (d00110.msy.bellsouth.net [207.53.20.111]) by mail.msy.bellsouth.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA16600 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 1997 22:49:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33D18818.98C2DBA7@bellsouth.net> Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 22:38:00 -0500 From: Barry McCormick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD and Goldstar CD drives X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have been running FreeBSD for almost a year now. I bought the Walnut Creek 2.1.5 version (dated August 1996). I now have 2.1.6 also. My problem is that I had my Mitsumi 4X CD crap out and I replaced it with a Goldstar 16X. Now I cannot get either version of FreeBSD to recognize the drive. I run System Commander so I can run multiple operating systems on one machine. OS2 Warp, Win95, Dos 6.22, and Linux are all installed and work flawlessly with the goldstar. I have tried several of the cd drivers in the standard kernel with no luck. Could you please either tell me how to solve the problem, or point me to somewhere to find the info. I am an engineer and can do some programming, but my unix skills are limited, but I want to compile myself a custom kernel to solve my problems. Below is a listing of the hardware in my system. Pentium -90 PCI motherboard Diamond Stealth Video 2001 3Com Etherlink III (isa) 16 bit network card 1.44 floppy Jumbo 250 tape drive (floppy cable driven) US Robotics 56K sportster Western Digital 3.1Gig EIDE Conner 340 meg ide Thanks for any help you can give me. My son in law and I both have the goldstar drives and we are both at a loss of how to get them to work. Thanks again. Barry McCormick New Orleans, LA home email - bmac2@bellsouth.net work email - bm198243@shellus.com