From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Feb 2 06:52:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA20699 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 06:52:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.crl.com (mail.crl.com [165.113.1.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA20672 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 06:52:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from david.siemens.de by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA19541 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 2 Feb 1997 06:48:22 -0800 Received: from salomon.mchp.siemens.de (salomon.mchp.siemens.de [139.23.33.13]) by david.siemens.de (8.8.5/8.8.0) with ESMTP id PAA22968 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 15:41:50 +0100 (MET) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (smtpd@curry.mchp.siemens.de [146.180.31.23]) by salomon.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id PAA02427 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 15:46:04 +0100 (MET) Received: (from smtpd@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA15853 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 15:46:02 +0100 (MET) From: Andre Albsmeier Message-Id: <199702021445.PAA28878@server.us.tld> Subject: 5 devices in 4 PCI Slots ? To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 15:45:56 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am currently running 2.2 on a Chaintech P5 board which has 4 PCI slots available. Two of them are used with two 2940 controllers and the third is used with a 2-channel SMC-Ethernet Card. The dmesg is as follows: ahc0 rev 0 int a irq 9 on pci0:9 ahc0: aic7880 Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16 SCBs ahc1 rev 0 int a irq 10 on pci0:10 ahc1: aic7880 Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16 SCBs Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: de0 rev 36 int a irq 11 on pci1:4 de0: SMC 8434BT-CH1 21040 [10Mb/s] pass 2.4 de0: address 00:00:c0:ba:73:e0 de0: enabling BNC/AUI port de1 rev 36 int a irq 12 on pci1:5 de1: SMC 8434BT-CH2 21040 [10Mb/s] pass 2.4 de1: address 00:00:c0:81:78:e0 de1: enabling BNC/AUI port However, I want to add a third 2940 to the fourth PCI slot. Will there be any problems with the interrupts? Will there be one interrupt assigned two times. Does FreeBSD handle this case properly? Thanks -Andre From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Feb 2 08:48:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA24929 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 08:48:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (root@mexico.brainstorm.fr [193.56.58.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24919 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 08:48:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (brasil.brainstorm.fr [193.56.58.33]) by mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id RAA14924 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 17:47:52 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (8.8.4/8.6.12) with UUCP id RAA26647 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 17:47:31 +0100 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.8.5/keltia-uucp-2.9) id QAA28156; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 16:18:59 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <19970202161858.XX27267@keltia.freenix.fr> Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 16:18:58 +0100 From: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 64 MB ECC or 128 MB non ECC ? References: <199701302113.WAA06565@cezanne.prism.uvsq.fr> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.59/1-2,4,7-8,10-14 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT ctm#2975 In-Reply-To: <199701302113.WAA06565@cezanne.prism.uvsq.fr>; from Pierre DAVID on Jan 30, 1997 22:13:56 +0100 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Pierre DAVID: > We are thinking about upgrading our old Sparc 10 server > to a P6 running FreeBSD. Yo ! > We are faced with the following dilemnna: either we choose > 64 MB of ECC memory (72 pins), or 128 MB of non ECC > memory (standard EDO) since prices are very near. One thing to consider is that you'll suffer a 10-15% speed penalty with ECC RAM. (number from some -hardware mails in the past). -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 3.0-CURRENT #37: Mon Jan 27 23:21:10 CET 1997 From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Feb 2 10:57:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA01189 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 10:57:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from pegasus.com (pegasus.com [140.174.243.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA01178 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 10:57:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by pegasus.com (8.6.8/PEGASUS-2.2) id IAA17553; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 08:57:05 -1000 Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 08:57:05 -1000 From: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) Message-Id: <199702021857.IAA17553@pegasus.com> In-Reply-To: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) "Re: 64 MB ECC or 128 MB non ECC ?" (Feb 2, 4:18pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 64 MB ECC or 128 MB non ECC ? Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk } > We are thinking about upgrading our old Sparc 10 server } > to a P6 running FreeBSD. } } Yo ! } } > We are faced with the following dilemnna: either we choose } > 64 MB of ECC memory (72 pins), or 128 MB of non ECC } > memory (standard EDO) since prices are very near. } } One thing to consider is that you'll suffer a 10-15% speed penalty with ECC } RAM. (number from some -hardware mails in the past). } -- The speed penalty when a bit fails without ECC is *much* greater. From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Feb 2 15:52:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA21269 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 15:52:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from wiz.eece.ksu.edu (root@wiz.eece.ksu.edu [129.130.40.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA21264 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 15:52:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by wiz.eece.ksu.edu (Smail3.1.29.1 #11) id m0vrBhj-000OccC; Sun, 2 Feb 97 17:52 CST Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 17:52:09 -0600 (CST) From: Christopher Casey To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Compaq setup woes Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Troubles in getting freebsd to live in a compaq presario. first of all the setup is broke and can only be accessed by booting a f10 boot disk, and it will not check the 2 user configurable hard drive types against the drive in the machine. just the first.. but thats a whole other problem. the main thing is the computer somehow hoses the filesystem if you boot with a setup floppy. it whines about a diagnostics partition and says its bad and needs to be reinstalled. but even when there is nothing on the drive at all, no partitions or anything it says there is no space to have one. i have set the drive type to 'other operation system' instead of 'dos or dos and windows'. does someone know what this thing is trying to do that hoses the drive? after it hoses it fdisk will not see the disk geometry right on a bootable dos floppy or in freebsd install floppy. i have to take it to another machine.. which is a packard bell and has about as many problems. i love stupid computer setup things. they flock to me. anyone changed the bios on a compaq to something like phoenix or something that somewhat works? thanks Chris Casey From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Feb 2 19:03:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA03301 for hardware-outgoing; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 19:03:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU (mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU [128.250.1.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA03285 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 19:03:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from cat.cs.mu.OZ.AU by mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.51) id AA11551; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 14:03:36 +1100 (from mjrow@students.cs.mu.oz.au) Received: (from mjrow@localhost) by cat.cs.mu.OZ.AU (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA22613 for hardware@freebsd.org; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 14:03:35 +1100 (EST) From: Michael John ROWE Message-Id: <199702030303.OAA22613@cat.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Subject: Re: 3com 3c509 (fwd) To: hardware@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 14:03:35 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am referring my question about the 3com 3c509 driver for FreeBSD to you guys, as suggested in the message below. Any information you can get me would be greatly appreciated. -- Michael Rowe Network Administrator St Hilda's College University of Melbourne, Australia Forwarded message: > From peter@taronga.com Mon Feb 3 13:55:51 1997 > From: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) > Message-Id: <199702030252.UAA10534@bonkers.taronga.com> > Subject: Re: 3com 3c509 > To: mjrow@students.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Michael John ROWE) > Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 20:52:08 -0600 (CST) > In-Reply-To: <199702030016.LAA00506@lister.cs.mu.OZ.AU> from "Michael John ROWE" at Feb 3, 97 11:16:09 am > X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] > Content-Type: text > > The only problem I know with the 3c509 drivers is you need to disable > Plug and Play. I don't know what the exact problems are... you should > ask on "hardware@freebsd.org" .. and let me know so I can update the > FAQ! > > (this entry dates back to before I took the FAQ over and I'm not sure > exactly what it refers to) > > > > > I am about to set up a FreeBSD box, and can get 3com 3c509 cards, but am > > having trouble getting any other 3com ones - they aren't produced > > any more. I note from > > http://www.freebsd.org/~roberto/FAQ/freebsd-faq-33.html#33 > > > > ``ep'' driver > > 3com 3c509 (*) > > ... > > NOTE Drivers marked with (*) are known to have problems. > > > > Can you tell me what they are? Is it really feasible to use this card or > > not? > > > > More information (maybe a URL) would be greatly appreciated. > > > > -- Michael Rowe From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Feb 3 03:29:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA23944 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 03:29:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from Sisyphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (Sisyphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA23938 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 03:29:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (annexr2-44.slip.Uni-Koeln.DE) by Sisyphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE with SMTP id AA29021 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 3 Feb 1997 12:28:51 +0100 Received: (from se@localhost) by x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) id MAA12619; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 12:28:19 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <19970203122656.TL27173@x14.mi.uni-koeln.de> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 12:26:56 +0100 From: se@freebsd.org (Stefan Esser) To: Andre.Albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (Andre Albsmeier) Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5 devices in 4 PCI Slots ? References: <199702021445.PAA28878@server.us.tld> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.59-PL19 Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199702021445.PAA28878@server.us.tld>; from Andre Albsmeier on Feb 2, 1997 15:45:56 +0100 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Feb 2, Andre.Albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (Andre Albsmeier) wrote: > Hi, > > I am currently running 2.2 on a Chaintech P5 board which has 4 PCI slots > available. Two of them are used with two 2940 controllers and the third > is used with a 2-channel SMC-Ethernet Card. The dmesg is as follows: > > ahc0 rev 0 int a irq 9 on pci0:9 > ahc0: aic7880 Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16 SCBs > ahc1 rev 0 int a irq 10 on pci0:10 > ahc1: aic7880 Single Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16 SCBs > Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: > de0 rev 36 int a irq 11 on pci1:4 > de0: SMC 8434BT-CH1 21040 [10Mb/s] pass 2.4 > de0: address 00:00:c0:ba:73:e0 > de0: enabling BNC/AUI port > de1 rev 36 int a irq 12 on pci1:5 > de1: SMC 8434BT-CH2 21040 [10Mb/s] pass 2.4 > de1: address 00:00:c0:81:78:e0 > de1: enabling BNC/AUI port > > However, I want to add a third 2940 to the fourth PCI slot. Will there > be any problems with the interrupts? Will there be one interrupt > assigned two times. Does FreeBSD handle this case properly? 1) Two PCI interrupts will go to the same IRQ, and this will slightly increase interrupt overhead. You should try to reduce the cumulated sycles spent in the interrupt dispatcher by sharing interrupts between lightly loaded devices (or, rather: devices that generate interrupts only at a moderate rate, in the long term). The interrupt lines, that will actually be shared, depend on your particular motherboard. But it is most common to have IntA of one slot be IntB of its one neighbour, and IntD of its other neighbour. (In a way, you can imagine PCI Int lines to be connected "diagonally", wrapping around from IntD to IntA ...) 2) FreeBSD is expected to handle this, and each single case where it is found to NOT handle interrupt sharing should be reported as a bug! (BTW: You will find, that you will have TWO shared interrupts, since you alread have 4 PCI devices, and will have 6 ...) Gruss, STefan From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Feb 3 07:30:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA03314 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 07:30:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from lserver.infoworld.com (lserver.infoworld.com [192.216.48.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03299; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 07:30:40 -0800 (PST) From: Brett_Glass@infoworld.com Received: from ccgate.infoworld.com (ccgate.infoworld.com [192.216.49.101]) by lserver.infoworld.com (8.8.4/8.8.4/GNAC-GW-2.1) with SMTP id HAA08708; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 07:30:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from ccMail by ccgate.infoworld.com (SMTPLINK V2.11) id AA854983543; Mon, 03 Feb 97 08:06:44 PST Date: Mon, 03 Feb 97 08:06:44 PST Message-Id: <9701038549.AA854983543@ccgate.infoworld.com> To: se@FreeBSD.ORG (Stefan Esser), Andre.Albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5 devices in 4 PCI Slots ? Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Interesting. Is interrupt sharing implemented for other drivers as well (for instance, for PCMCIA multifunction cards that share an IRQ between an Ethernet NIC and a modem)? From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Feb 3 07:50:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA04220 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 07:50:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from seine.cs.umd.edu (10862@seine.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.59]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA04213 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 07:50:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by seine.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA22207; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:50:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:50:18 -0500 (EST) From: rohit@cs.umd.edu (Rohit Dube) Message-Id: <199702031550.KAA22207@seine.cs.umd.edu> To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: ZNYX 4 Port Ethernet Cards Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I was wondering if anybody out there had either the ZNYX ZX346 (4 X 10/100, PCI) or ZX314 (4 X 10, PCI) working under FreeBSD2.2 with the regular 'de' driver? I talked to a couple of people recently who indicated that there is a patch available which would get these cards to work with 2.1.6/2.2 but would possibly break support for the regular DEC based Ethernet cards. Anybody care to confirm one way or the other? Need to know before ordering! (I see a lot of special cased ZNYX314 and some ZNYX34X code in pci/if_de.c. Hence the question). Thanks in advance. --rohit. From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Feb 3 08:07:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA04981 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 08:07:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from netserv1.free.net (netserv1.free.net [147.45.15.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA04952 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 08:06:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from netserv1.chg.ru by netserv1.free.net (8.6.12.C2.1/8s) with ESMTP id TAA03279 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 19:00:27 +0300 Received: from itp.ac.ru (itp.ac.ru [193.233.32.4]) by netserv1.chg.ru (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id RAA22829 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 17:18:08 +0300 (MSK) Received: from speecart.chg.ru (speecart.chg.ru [193.233.46.2]) by itp.ac.ru (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id RAA10943; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 17:19:17 +0300 (MSK) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 16:55:10 +0300 (MSK) Organization: Landau Institute for Theoretical Physics From: "Sergey S. Kosyakov" To: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl Subject: DEC TZ87 Cc: hardware@freebsd.org Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear Wilko, I have "DEC TZ87 (C) DEC 9514 type 1 removable SCSI-2" "density code 0x19" tape drive. It works very well with MS WinNT. But with FreeBSD I met some problems. If I use tar,dd, or simple "cat big.file > /dev/rst0" command fails in random time with st0(ncr1:1:0): Deferred Error: RECOVERED ERROR asc:a,0 Error log overflow After light hack of st driver I find out that at this time sense->error_code equals 113 (decimal). I add to st.c lines (into st_interpret_sense(xs) function): if(sense->error_code==113) return ESUCCESS; With that hack the tape seems to work right. What is the reason for such TZ87's behaviour ? NCR PCI 53c815 is my SCSI controller. FreeBSD-2.1, 2.2-SNAPs, 2.2-BETA (now) Regards, Sergey Kosyakov From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Feb 3 11:06:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA13939 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 11:06:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (root@mexico.brainstorm.fr [193.56.58.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13911; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 11:05:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (brasil.brainstorm.fr [193.56.58.33]) by mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id UAA17835; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 20:04:40 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (8.8.4/8.6.12) with UUCP id UAA12132; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 20:04:05 +0100 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.8.5/keltia-uucp-2.9) id TAA29420; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 19:58:36 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <19970203195835.PV23288@keltia.freenix.fr> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 19:58:35 +0100 From: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) To: mjrow@students.cs.mu.oz.au (Michael John ROWE) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org, pds@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3com 3c509 (fwd) References: <199702030303.OAA22613@cat.cs.mu.OZ.AU> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60,1-3,9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT ctm#2999 In-Reply-To: <199702030303.OAA22613@cat.cs.mu.OZ.AU>; from Michael John ROWE on Feb 3, 1997 14:03:35 +1100 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Michael John ROWE: > I am referring my question about the 3com 3c509 driver for FreeBSD to > you guys, as suggested in the message below. It is an old FAQ entry, one that should probably be deleted. Be sure to disable PnP anyway ro you _will_ have problem. The driver itself is working. > > > http://www.freebsd.org/~roberto/FAQ/freebsd-faq-33.html#33 Where the hell did you find this ? It is a _ages_ old version of the FAQ and one that only announced for a limited time in freebsd-doc. I'll delete the files as soon as possible. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 3.0-CURRENT #39: Sun Feb 2 22:12:44 CET 1997 From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Feb 3 13:29:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA21422 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 13:29:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from iafnl.es.iaf.nl (uucp@iafnl.es.iaf.nl [195.108.17.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA21399 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 13:29:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by iafnl.es.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA06113 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for hardware@freebsd.org); Mon, 3 Feb 1997 22:26:38 +0100 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.7.5/8.6.12) id WAA01317; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 22:16:52 +0100 (MET) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199702032116.WAA01317@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: DEC TZ87 To: ks@itp.ac.ru (Sergey S. Kosyakov) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 22:16:52 +0100 (MET) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Sergey S. Kosyakov" at Feb 3, 97 04:55:10 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Sergey S. Kosyakov wrote... << appreciate a way to fix this message below, from elm>> [Charset: KOI8-R, skipping] << Xterm cut'n paste >> > Dear Wilko, > > I have "DEC TZ87 (C) DEC 9514 type 1 removable SCSI-2" "density code 0x19" > tape drive. It works very well with MS WinNT. But with FreeBSD I met some > problems. If I use tar,dd, or simple "cat big.file > /dev/rst0" command > fails > in random time with > st0(ncr1:1:0): Deferred Error: RECOVERED ERROR asc:a,0 Error log overflow My TZ87 manual tells me that the drive has seen an excessive I/O error rate. The log it refers to (log pages 2/3) use 4 byte counters to count the different errors (corrected, fatal etc). It seems your drive is reporting loads of errors to the system. Maybe NT just ignores these? Questions: - is it always on the same tape? - is there a switching power supply in the drives neighbourhood? Mine became very upset when the PS transformer induced EMI into the head and/or electronics. > After light hack of st driver I find out that at this time > sense->error_code equals 113 (decimal). I add to st.c lines > (into st_interpret_sense(xs) function): > if(sense->error_code==113) > return ESUCCESS; > With that hack the tape seems to work right. Yikes. I'd rather investigate where the errors come from. Assuming the SCSI code is OK. > NCR PCI 53c815 is my SCSI controller. FreeBSD-2.1, 2.2-SNAPs, 2.2-BETA (now) I have an NRC810. Works fine with 2.1R and 2.1.5R Did you have problems with all these FreeBSD versions? Wilko _ ____________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl - Arnhem, The Netherlands |/|/ / / /( (_) Do, or do not. There is no 'try' - Yoda -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Feb 3 13:49:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA22839 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 13:49:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from ami.tom.computerworks.net (root@AMI.RES.CMU.EDU [128.2.95.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA22834; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 13:49:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from bonkers.taronga.com by ami.tom.computerworks.net with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0vrWGD-0021VwC; Mon, 3 Feb 97 16:49 EST Received: (from peter@localhost) by bonkers.taronga.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA29045; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:46:10 -0600 From: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) Message-Id: <199702032146.PAA29045@bonkers.taronga.com> Subject: Re: 3com 3c509 (fwd) To: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:46:09 -0600 (CST) Cc: mjrow@students.cs.mu.oz.au, hardware@freebsd.org, pds@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <19970203195835.PV23288@keltia.freenix.fr> from "Ollivier Robert" at Feb 3, 97 07:58:35 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > It is an old FAQ entry, one that should probably be deleted. Be sure to > disable PnP anyway ro you _will_ have problem. The driver itself is > working. It has been, as I would have known if I'd looked. From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Feb 3 16:03:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA29212 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 16:03:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29191; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 16:03:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.2/8.7.3) id KAA07826; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 10:33:25 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199702040003.KAA07826@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: 5 devices in 4 PCI Slots ? In-Reply-To: <9701038549.AA854983543@ccgate.infoworld.com> from "Brett_Glass@infoworld.com" at "Feb 3, 97 08:06:44 am" To: Brett_Glass@infoworld.com Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 10:33:24 +1030 (CST) Cc: se@FreeBSD.ORG, Andre.Albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Brett_Glass@infoworld.com stands accused of saying: > Interesting. Is interrupt sharing implemented for other drivers as well > (for instance, for PCMCIA multifunction cards that share an IRQ between an > Ethernet NIC and a modem)? Interrupt sharing is a bus, not driver, issue. We've just done to death why you can't (properly) share ISA interrupts. Nate indicated a while back that PCCARD IRQ-sharing was achievable without too much pain, but I don't think it's his #1 priority just now. -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Feb 3 21:44:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA20045 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 21:44:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA20039 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 21:44:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.2/8.7.3) id QAA10839 for hardware@freebsd.org; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 16:13:57 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199702040543.QAA10839@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: 2G SCSI disks? To: hardware@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 16:13:55 +1030 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Argh, I'm screwed 8( A couple of systems we quoted have just been accepted. Both were specified with 2G SCSI disks. Only the 2G disk we were planning to use (the IBM DORS32160U) is no longer available. In fact, none of the 2G disks that we normally use are (no Seagate Hawk units either). Does anyone have any alternative suggestions for reliable 2G 5400rpm SCSI disks? Failing that, has anyone done anything with the new Maxtor "DiamondMax" disks? Or have any suggestions for IDE disks that are likely to come close to the performance of an Ultra-SCSI disk? -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Feb 3 22:58:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA22829 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 22:58:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from freebee.tu-graz.ac.at (root@freebee.tu-graz.ac.at [129.27.193.128]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA22818; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 22:58:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from dwarf.tu-graz.ac.at (dialup1.tu-graz.ac.at [129.27.250.2]) by freebee.tu-graz.ac.at (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id HAA03099; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 07:57:25 +0100 Received: (from rmike@localhost) by dwarf.tu-graz.ac.at (8.7.5/8.7.3) id HAA00190; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 07:56:06 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 07:56:06 +0100 (MET) From: Michael Ranner Reply-To: rmike@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: AHA2920 / Future Domain TMC 1830 driver for FreeBSD Message-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Because I have got no answers for my last mail - once again: Is there any interest in an AHA2920 driver for freebsd? Is somebody working on a driver for this card (except me)? Who can give me some technical support to get the code running? /\/\ichael Ranner - rmike@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at _o_ http://www.sbox.tu-graz.ac.at/home/rmike/ / \ ___|o o o|___ AdamsCII / \ /--(_)-(_)-(_)--\ From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Feb 3 23:29:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA24501 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 23:29:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from ravenock.cybercity.dk (ravenock.cybercity.dk [194.16.57.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA24479 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 23:29:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sos@localhost) by ravenock.cybercity.dk (8.8.5/8.7.3) id IAA18085; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 08:31:13 +0100 (MET) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <199702040731.IAA18085@ravenock.cybercity.dk> Subject: Re: 2G SCSI disks? In-Reply-To: <199702040543.QAA10839@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> from Michael Smith at "Feb 4, 97 04:13:55 pm" To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 08:31:05 +0100 (MET) Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Michael Smith who wrote: > > Argh, I'm screwed 8( > > A couple of systems we quoted have just been accepted. Both were > specified with 2G SCSI disks. > > Only the 2G disk we were planning to use (the IBM DORS32160U) is no > longer available. In fact, none of the 2G disks that we normally use > are (no Seagate Hawk units either). Yeah, I know, we they have the same problem at work :(, I don't think they found anything usefull yet, so they use 4G disks instead... > Does anyone have any alternative suggestions for reliable 2G 5400rpm > SCSI disks? > > Failing that, has anyone done anything with the new Maxtor > "DiamondMax" disks? Or have any suggestions for IDE disks that are > likely to come close to the performance of an Ultra-SCSI disk? Hmm, I've looked at the 5.1G Maxtor disk, and I'm going to get one as soon as my limited budget allows me to, for use as a test drive for DMA EIDE transfers. From what I've heard it should provide decent performance in that configuration, and it priced about half of a equivalent SCSI drive, that should make it a pretty god buy.. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Feb 3 23:34:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA24734 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 23:34:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA24728 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 23:34:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.2/8.7.3) id SAA11743; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 18:02:52 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199702040732.SAA11743@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: 2G SCSI disks? In-Reply-To: <199702040731.IAA18085@ravenock.cybercity.dk> from =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= at "Feb 4, 97 08:31:05 am" To: sos@ravenock.cybercity.dk (Søren Schmidt) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 18:02:51 +1030 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Søren Schmidt stands accused of saying: > > > > Only the 2G disk we were planning to use (the IBM DORS32160U) is no > > longer available. In fact, none of the 2G disks that we normally use > > are (no Seagate Hawk units either). > > Yeah, I know, we they have the same problem at work :(, I don't think > they found anything usefull yet, so they use 4G disks instead... There's a replacement allegedly coming, but "not yet". > > Failing that, has anyone done anything with the new Maxtor > > "DiamondMax" disks? Or have any suggestions for IDE disks that are > > likely to come close to the performance of an Ultra-SCSI disk? > > Hmm, I've looked at the 5.1G Maxtor disk, and I'm going to get one > as soon as my limited budget allows me to, for use as a test drive > for DMA EIDE transfers. From what I've heard it should provide decent > performance in that configuration, and it priced about half of a > equivalent SCSI drive, that should make it a pretty god buy.. Well, I've bitten the bullet; we'll have two of the 5.1GB Maxtors on Tekram P5H0 (HX) boards by the end of the week. One will be headed to the customer RSN, the other may be around for a few months before it goes (don't have a timetable for it yet). > Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Feb 3 23:41:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA25306 for hardware-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 23:41:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from frig.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp (frig.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp [131.113.32.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA25279; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 23:41:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from hosokawa@localhost) by frig.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp (8.6.12+2.4W/3.4Wbeta3) id QAA05519; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 16:35:15 +0900 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 16:35:15 +0900 Message-Id: <199702040735.QAA05519@frig.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp> To: rmike@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp Subject: Re: AHA2920 / Future Domain TMC 1830 driver for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 4 Feb 1997 07:56:06 +0100 (MET). From: hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp (HOSOKAWA Tatsumi) X-Mailer: mnews [version 1.18PL3] 1994-08/01(Mon) Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article rmike@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at writes: >> Because I have got no answers for my last mail - once again: >> Is there any interest in an AHA2920 driver for freebsd? >> Is somebody working on a driver for this card (except me)? >> Who can give me some technical support to get the code running? Do you mean AHA2920 uses Future Domain TMC1830 chipset? TMC18C30 driver for PC-card SCSI can be found in newest PAO package ported from NetBSD/pc98 (based on NetBSD 1.2). Possibly it can be used for ISA cards. See "http://www.jp.FreeBSD.org/PAO/". -- HOSOKAWA, Tatsumi E-mail: hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp WWW homepage: http://www.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp/person/hosokawa.html Department of Computer Science, Keio University, Yokohama, Japan From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Feb 4 02:43:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA08548 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 02:43:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx.serv.net (mx.serv.net [199.201.191.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA08539 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 02:43:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from MindBender.serv.net by mx.serv.net (8.7.5/SERV Revision: 2.30) id CAA10892; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 02:43:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.serv.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA22950; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 02:43:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199702041043.CAA22950@MindBender.serv.net> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.serv.net: Host michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Michael Smith cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2G SCSI disks? In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 04 Feb 97 16:13:55 +1030. <199702040543.QAA10839@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 02:43:12 -0800 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Failing that, has anyone done anything with the new Maxtor >"DiamondMax" disks? Or have any suggestions for IDE disks that are >likely to come close to the performance of an Ultra-SCSI disk? ... "close to the performance of an Ultra-SCSI disk" only if you don't have any concurrency! There IS a difference. Remind yourself that there's a reason RAID towers don't use SCSI drives... (Which is fine if you know what you're getting into, but don't truly expect IDE to be able to do everything as well as SCSI, no matter what the marketing people say.) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@MindBender.serv.net --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Feb 4 04:06:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA12661 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 04:06:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA12656 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 04:06:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (wck-ca4-22.ix.netcom.com [199.35.213.150]) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with ESMTP id EAA20525; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 04:05:34 -0800 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.5/8.6.9) id EAA02579; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 04:05:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 04:05:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199702041205.EAA02579@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr CC: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <19970202161858.XX27267@keltia.freenix.fr> (roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Subject: Re: 64 MB ECC or 128 MB non ECC ? From: asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * From: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) * One thing to consider is that you'll suffer a 10-15% speed penalty with ECC * RAM. (number from some -hardware mails in the past). To clarify: 10-15% penalty on maximum memory bandwidth. (E.g., 70MB/s vs. 64MB/s on TritonII with 66MHz bus and P5-133.) This is NOT the same as application speed penalty, which obviously varies depending on how memory-intensive it is. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Feb 4 05:09:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA15075 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 05:09:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (ghpc6.ihf.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.90.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA15070 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 05:09:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from thomas@localhost) by ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA18113 for hardware@freebsd.org; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 14:09:00 +0100 From: Thomas Gellekum Message-Id: <199702041309.OAA18113@ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Driver for National Instruments AT-MIO16XE? To: hardware@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 14:08:59 +0100 (MET) Organization: Institut f. Hochfrequenztechnik, RWTH Aachen X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Moin, do we have a driver for the AT-MIO16XE ADC-card from National Instruments? Does the labpc driver work, maybe? tg From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Feb 4 05:37:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA15996 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 05:37:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA15990 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 05:37:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.2/8.7.3) id AAA13715; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 00:05:37 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199702041335.AAA13715@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: 2G SCSI disks? In-Reply-To: <199702041043.CAA22950@MindBender.serv.net> from "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" at "Feb 4, 97 02:43:12 am" To: michaelv@MindBender.serv.net (Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 00:05:36 +1030 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com stands accused of saying: > > >Failing that, has anyone done anything with the new Maxtor > >"DiamondMax" disks? Or have any suggestions for IDE disks that are > >likely to come close to the performance of an Ultra-SCSI disk? > > ... "close to the performance of an Ultra-SCSI disk" only if you don't > have any concurrency! There IS a difference. I'm not completely stupid 8) > Remind yourself that there's a reason RAID towers don't use SCSI > drives... Yeah, they're cheap and stupid, so you don't have to second-guess them. > (Which is fine if you know what you're getting into, but don't truly > expect IDE to be able to do everything as well as SCSI, no matter what > the marketing people say.) Hell, Michael, there's a damn good reason why I specified SCSI disk for these units. But the $400 IBM disk I specified might as well never have existed; I have the option of an Atlas-II ($800) or a 2G 'cuda (~$1000), or I swallow my pride and happiness and go IDE. Now tell me how easy it's going to be to tell my boss that we have to blow $400 of our (already narrow) margin on each of these units because _I_ care about performance. 8( (I'll stop here before the sob-story disintegrates into tears 8) > Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@MindBender.serv.net -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Feb 4 05:55:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA16568 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 05:55:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from hda.hda.com (ip15-max1-fitch.ziplink.net [199.232.245.15]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA16563 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 05:55:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.hda.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA21257; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 08:50:20 -0500 From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199702041350.IAA21257@hda.hda.com> Subject: Re: Driver for National Instruments AT-MIO16XE? In-Reply-To: <199702041309.OAA18113@ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de> from Thomas Gellekum at "Feb 4, 97 02:08:59 pm" To: thomas@ghpc8.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (Thomas Gellekum) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 08:50:19 -0500 (EST) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Moin, > > do we have a driver for the AT-MIO16XE ADC-card from National > Instruments? Does the labpc driver work, maybe? No the labpc won't work, but I do have some National MIO (I forget the exact flavor) driver around somewhere. It is not thouroughly tested since I never went into "production" with it. It should probe and do the basic operations that I tried when I wrote it. If you want to do the testing I'll find it and send it to you. Peter -- Peter Dufault (dufault@hda.com) Realtime Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Feb 4 06:00:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA16759 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 06:00:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (ghpc6.ihf.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.90.6]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA16752 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 06:00:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from thomas@localhost) by ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA18210; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 15:00:04 +0100 From: Thomas Gellekum Message-Id: <199702041400.PAA18210@ghpc6.ihf.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: Driver for National Instruments AT-MIO16XE? To: dufault@hda.com (Peter Dufault) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 15:00:03 +0100 (MET) Cc: thomas@ghpc8.ihf.rwth-aachen.de, hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199702041350.IAA21257@hda.hda.com> from Peter Dufault at "Feb 4, 97 08:50:19 am" Organization: Institut f. Hochfrequenztechnik, RWTH Aachen X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Peter Dufault wrote: > > Moin, > > > > do we have a driver for the AT-MIO16XE ADC-card from National > > Instruments? Does the labpc driver work, maybe? > > No the labpc won't work, but I do have some National MIO (I forget the > exact flavor) driver around somewhere. It is not thouroughly tested > since I never went into "production" with it. It should probe and > do the basic operations that I tried when I wrote it. > > If you want to do the testing I'll find it and send it to you. Yes, please. tg From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Feb 4 06:14:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA17107 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 06:14:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from m4.stox.pr.mcs.net (stox.pr.mcs.net [204.137.243.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA17100 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 06:13:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost.stox.pr.mcs.net [127.0.0.1]) by m4.stox.pr.mcs.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA01644; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 08:10:00 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 08:10:00 -0600 (CST) From: "Kenneth P. Stox" To: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" cc: Michael Smith , hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2G SCSI disks? In-Reply-To: <199702041043.CAA22950@MindBender.serv.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > ... "close to the performance of an Ultra-SCSI disk" only if you don't > have any concurrency! There IS a difference. > > Remind yourself that there's a reason RAID towers don't use SCSI > drives... > > (Which is fine if you know what you're getting into, but don't truly > expect IDE to be able to do everything as well as SCSI, no matter what > the marketing people say.) > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@MindBender.serv.net > --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- > NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, > Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... > NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Feb 4 06:33:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA17884 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 06:33:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from rosemary.fsl.noaa.gov (rosemary.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.8.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA17878 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 06:33:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from sage.fsl.noaa.gov (sage.fsl.noaa.gov [137.75.253.42]) by rosemary.fsl.noaa.gov (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA18675; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 07:33:01 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <32F7489D.41C67EA6@fsl.noaa.gov> Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 07:33:01 -0700 From: Sean Kelly Organization: CIRA/NOAA X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-BETA_A i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Smith CC: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" , hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2G SCSI disks? References: <199702041335.AAA13715@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Michael: Seek Solutions at http://www.seeks.com/ has Quantum 2.1GB Ultra SCSI drives at $332 (4500 RPM) and $490 (7200 RPM). Note that I'm definitely not suggesting you buy from this place ... I still haven't received a drive I ordered from them a bit under a month ago. I think it's because I'm Irish, and I know Murphy and his Law pretty well. :-) But you might have better luck! -- Sean Kelly NOAA Forecast Systems Laboratory Boulder Colorado USA From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Feb 4 08:16:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA23952 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 08:16:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from deepo.prosa.dk ([193.89.187.27]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA23822; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 08:13:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from regnauld@localhost) by deepo.prosa.dk (8.8.5/8.8.4/prosa-1.1) id RAA11142; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 17:14:32 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 17:14:32 +0100 From: regnauld@deepo.prosa.dk (Philippe Regnauld) To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Finding Gigabyte 586-DX MB in Europe ? X-Mailer: Mutt 0.58 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-BETA_A i386 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ... Where might I find one of those critters, preferably in the Northern half of Europe ? SMP is itching :-) -- -- Phil -[ Philippe Regnauld / Systems Administrator / regnauld@.prosa.dk ]- -[ Location.: +55.4N +11.3E PGP Key: finger regnauld@deepo.prosa.dk ]- From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Feb 4 08:30:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA25836 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 08:30:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from lserver.infoworld.com (lserver.infoworld.com [192.216.48.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA25779; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 08:30:47 -0800 (PST) From: Brett_Glass@infoworld.com Received: from ccgate.infoworld.com (ccgate.infoworld.com [192.216.49.101]) by lserver.infoworld.com (8.8.4/8.8.4/GNAC-GW-2.1) with SMTP id IAA21089; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 08:30:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from ccMail by ccgate.infoworld.com (SMTPLINK V2.11) id AA855073547; Tue, 04 Feb 97 09:20:32 PST Date: Tue, 04 Feb 97 09:20:32 PST Message-Id: <9701048550.AA855073547@ccgate.infoworld.com> To: Michael Smith Cc: se@FreeBSD.ORG, Andre.Albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 5 devices in 4 PCI Slots ? Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Interrupt sharing is a bus, not driver, issue. It's a driver issue as well. Last time I asked, I was told by one of your driver developers that the current 3Com Ethernet and serial drivers were not written so as to allow them to share an IRQ -- even though the PC card (in this case, the 3Com Modem+Ethernet) hardware is built to do it. --Brett From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Feb 4 09:10:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA28738 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:10:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ravenock.cybercity.dk (ravenock.cybercity.dk [194.16.57.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28726; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:10:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sos@localhost) by ravenock.cybercity.dk (8.8.5/8.7.3) id SAA25705; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 18:12:15 +0100 (MET) From: Søren Schmidt Message-Id: <199702041712.SAA25705@ravenock.cybercity.dk> Subject: Re: Finding Gigabyte 586-DX MB in Europe ? In-Reply-To: from Philippe Regnauld at "Feb 4, 97 05:14:32 pm" To: regnauld@deepo.prosa.dk (Philippe Regnauld) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 18:12:14 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In reply to Philippe Regnauld who wrote: > ... Where might I find one of those critters, preferably in the Northern > half of Europe ? SMP is itching :-) Try: Frish Data Munkevej 3 3500 Værløse 4447 1281 They carry at least some of the Gigabyte MB's For more info on danish (enduser) prices, look at: http://home5.inet.tele.dk/wheeler/priser.htm Its a guy that collects prices from many dealers, and compares them on given brand etc etc... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end .. From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Feb 4 09:33:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA00268 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:33:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA00230; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:32:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA28032; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 10:32:33 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 10:32:33 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199702041732.KAA28032@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Brett_Glass@infoworld.com Cc: Michael Smith , se@freebsd.org, Andre.Albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5 devices in 4 PCI Slots ? In-Reply-To: <9701048550.AA855073547@ccgate.infoworld.com> References: <9701048550.AA855073547@ccgate.infoworld.com> Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Interrupt sharing is a bus, not driver, issue. > > It's a driver issue as well. Last time I asked, I was told by one of your > driver developers that the current 3Com Ethernet and serial drivers were > not written so as to allow them to share an IRQ -- even though the PC card > (in this case, the 3Com Modem+Ethernet) hardware is built to do it. The 'bus' code is not setup to share the IRQ, but the drivers themselves need not be aware of it, since they don't service the interrupts directly. Nate From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Feb 4 10:02:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA01720 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 10:02:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from lserver.infoworld.com (lserver.infoworld.com [192.216.48.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01715 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 10:02:34 -0800 (PST) From: Brett_Glass@infoworld.com Received: from ccgate.infoworld.com (ccgate.infoworld.com [192.216.49.101]) by lserver.infoworld.com (8.8.4/8.8.4/GNAC-GW-2.1) with SMTP id KAA22068; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 10:00:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from ccMail by ccgate.infoworld.com (SMTPLINK V2.11) id AA855078939; Tue, 04 Feb 97 10:16:35 PST Date: Tue, 04 Feb 97 10:16:35 PST Message-Id: <9701048550.AA855078939@ccgate.infoworld.com> To: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" , msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au Cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2G SCSI disks? Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > ... "close to the performance of an Ultra-SCSI disk" only if you don't > have any concurrency! There IS a difference. There are a number of other drawbacks as well: electrically, IDE is on the bleeding edge of being unreliable. And the market is so cost-competitive that manufacturers cut corners. Finally, FreeBSD's IDE drivers slow the system by busy-waiting in the kernel. However, if you have a smart controller or disk system, concurrency isn't a big deal; it's handled elsewhere. --Brett From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Feb 4 10:43:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA03914 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 10:43:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from persprog.com (persprog.com [204.215.255.203]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA03909 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 10:43:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by persprog.com (8.7.5/4.10) id NAA06190; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:39:38 -0500 Message-Id: <199702041839.NAA06190@persprog.com> Received: from dasa(192.2.2.199) by cerberus.ppi.com via smap (V1.3) id sma006186; Tue Feb 4 13:39:09 1997 Received: from DASA/SpoolDir by dasa.ppi.com (Mercury 1.21); 4 Feb 97 13:39:34 +0500 Received: from SpoolDir by DASA (Mercury 1.30); 4 Feb 97 13:39:07 +0500 From: "David Alderman" Organization: Personalized Programming, Inc To: hardware@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:38:57 +0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: 2G SCSI disks? Priority: normal In-reply-to: <199702041335.AAA13715@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> References: <199702041043.CAA22950@MindBender.serv.net> from "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" at "Feb 4, 97 02:43:12 am" X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.52) Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 5 Feb 97 at 0:05, Michael Smith proclaimed: > Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com stands accused of saying: > > > > Remind yourself that there's a reason RAID towers don't use SCSI > > drives... > > Yeah, they're cheap and stupid, so you don't have to second-guess them. You guys did mean IDE above, right? I have never seen an IDE RAID system (and I hope I never do). ====================================== When philosophy conflicts with reality, choose fantasy. Dave Alderman -- dave@persprog.com ====================================== From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Feb 4 10:59:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA05062 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 10:59:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from lserver.infoworld.com (lserver.infoworld.com [192.216.48.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA05054; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 10:59:08 -0800 (PST) From: Brett_Glass@infoworld.com Received: from ccgate.infoworld.com (ccgate.infoworld.com [192.216.49.101]) by lserver.infoworld.com (8.8.4/8.8.4/GNAC-GW-2.1) with SMTP id KAA22905; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 10:55:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from ccMail by ccgate.infoworld.com (SMTPLINK V2.11) id AA855082237; Tue, 04 Feb 97 11:42:54 PST Date: Tue, 04 Feb 97 11:42:54 PST Message-Id: <9701048550.AA855082237@ccgate.infoworld.com> To: Nate Williams Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, se@freebsd.org, Andre.Albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: PCMCIA Interrupt sharing (Was: 5 devices in 4 PCI Slots ?) Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > The 'bus' code is not setup to share the IRQ, but the drivers themselves > need not be aware of it, since they don't service the interrupts > directly. What "bus" code is used for PCMCIA cards? Why is it not set up for interrupt sharing, at least within a card? Note: I'd really like to be able to use FreeBSD on a laptop, but so far, when I've asked, I've been told that I'd have to wait until some unidentified person(s) in Japan wrote drivers. --Brett From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Feb 4 11:11:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA05981 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:11:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05972; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:11:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA28631; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:10:57 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:10:57 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199702041910.MAA28631@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Brett_Glass@infoworld.com Cc: Nate Williams , msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, se@freebsd.org, Andre.Albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PCMCIA Interrupt sharing (Was: 5 devices in 4 PCI Slots ?) In-Reply-To: <9701048550.AA855082237@ccgate.infoworld.com> References: <9701048550.AA855082237@ccgate.infoworld.com> Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > The 'bus' code is not setup to share the IRQ, but the drivers themselves > > need not be aware of it, since they don't service the interrupts > > directly. > > What "bus" code is used for PCMCIA cards? Why is it not set up for > interrupt sharing, at least within a card? The PCMCIA/PCCARD bus code in /sys/pccard. It's not setup for interrupt sharing simply because we haven't finished fleshing out the work Andrew McRae started. > Note: I'd really like to be able to use FreeBSD on a laptop, but so far, > when I've asked, I've been told that I'd have to wait until some > unidentified person(s) in Japan wrote drivers. 2.2 works on the 6 laptops I have access to, and I've helped numerous others folks get it working on theirs. But, in the same manner that FreeBSD is 'picky' about the hardware the code is also picky. Nate From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Feb 4 11:47:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA07831 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:47:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from pegasus.com (pegasus.com [140.174.243.13]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA07812 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:47:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by pegasus.com (8.6.8/PEGASUS-2.2) id JAA06691; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:47:09 -1000 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:47:09 -1000 From: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) Message-Id: <199702041947.JAA06691@pegasus.com> In-Reply-To: asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) "Re: 64 MB ECC or 128 MB non ECC ?" (Feb 4, 4:05am) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 64 MB ECC or 128 MB non ECC ? Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk } * From: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) } } * One thing to consider is that you'll suffer a 10-15% speed penalty with ECC } * RAM. (number from some -hardware mails in the past). } } To clarify: 10-15% penalty on maximum memory bandwidth. (E.g., 70MB/s } vs. 64MB/s on TritonII with 66MHz bus and P5-133.) } } This is NOT the same as application speed penalty, which obviously } varies depending on how memory-intensive it is. } That's kinda what I thought. So closer to 1%. Richard From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Feb 4 14:55:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA19862 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 14:55:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA19848 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 14:55:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.2/8.7.3) id JAA16730; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 09:25:05 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199702042255.JAA16730@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: 2G SCSI disks? In-Reply-To: <199702041839.NAA06190@persprog.com> from David Alderman at "Feb 4, 97 01:38:57 pm" To: dave@persprog.com (David Alderman) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 09:25:03 +1030 (CST) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk David Alderman stands accused of saying: > On 5 Feb 97 at 0:05, Michael Smith proclaimed: > > > > Remind yourself that there's a reason RAID towers don't use SCSI > > > drives... > > > > Yeah, they're cheap and stupid, so you don't have to second-guess them. > > You guys did mean IDE above, right? I have never seen an IDE RAID > system (and I hope I never do). I've seen a number of RAID controllers that use IDE disks (they have SCSI host interfaces, naturally). IDE disks are an excellent choice - they're cheap, and because they're extremely stupid, they're nice and deterministic, which mans you can put all your smarts in the cluster controller and achieve a greater degree of control over the members of the array. Of course the opposite argument is that SCSI array members beat the pants off IDE members performance-wise. > Dave Alderman -- dave@persprog.com -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Feb 4 19:41:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA25892 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 19:41:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from pahtoh.cwu.edu (root@pahtoh.cwu.edu [198.104.65.27]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA25887 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 19:41:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from opus.cts.cwu.edu (skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu [198.104.92.71]) by pahtoh.cwu.edu (8.6.13/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA07086 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 19:41:31 -0800 Received: from localhost (skynyrd@localhost) by opus.cts.cwu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA08674 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 19:41:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 19:41:31 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Timmons To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: (not seeing) ECC penalty on Natoma Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I haven't gotten into the hardcore benchmarks yet, but have this to report: I'm burning in a new asus p6np5 machine by making the same -current world, over and over and over again, with an intervening 'make clean' in /usr/src between each. With 128MB (2x16x36) and an async /usr, i see no difference in the mw build time between checking nothing and doing ECC. I would think that with cc -pipe set and all of that memory I would be exercising the memory enough for me to see a difference in the time (1:51). This is a full world with CFLAGS= -O2 -m486 -pipe, and compressing man pages. Of course I have no way of knowing if the bios itself is hokey and just isn't doing anything whether I have ECC set and the 'data integrity' switch set that enables it on... -Chris From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Feb 4 21:04:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA01375 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 21:04:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from lserver.infoworld.com (lserver.infoworld.com [192.216.48.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA01364 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 21:04:23 -0800 (PST) From: Brett_Glass@infoworld.com Received: from ccgate.infoworld.com (ccgate.infoworld.com [192.216.49.101]) by lserver.infoworld.com (8.8.4/8.8.4/GNAC-GW-2.1) with SMTP id VAA29327; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 21:03:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from ccMail by ccgate.infoworld.com (SMTPLINK V2.11) id AA855118702; Tue, 04 Feb 97 21:54:47 PST Date: Tue, 04 Feb 97 21:54:47 PST Message-Id: <9701048551.AA855118702@ccgate.infoworld.com> To: Chris Timmons , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: (not seeing) ECC penalty on Natoma Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Chris: The penalty for ECC only occurs on a cache miss. Unless your memory benchmark is designed to avoid this, or you turn off the cache, you'll hit the cache again and again and will see no slowdown. --Brett From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Feb 4 23:11:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA08873 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 23:11:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from cpd.landau.ac.ru (cpd.landau.ac.ru [193.233.9.7]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA08860 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 23:11:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from netserv1.chg.ru (netserv1.chg.ru [193.233.46.3]) by cpd.landau.ac.ru (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA00642; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:06:55 +0300 Received: from itp.ac.ru (itp.ac.ru [193.233.32.4]) by netserv1.chg.ru (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA04835; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:06:42 +0300 (MSK) Received: from speecart.chg.ru (speecart.chg.ru [193.233.46.2]) by itp.ac.ru (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id KAA16270; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:10:19 +0300 (MSK) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199702032116.WAA01317@yedi.iaf.nl> Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 09:59:16 +0300 (MSK) Organization: Landau Institute for Theoretical Physics From: "Sergey S. Kosyakov" To: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: DEC TZ87 Cc: hardware@freebsd.org Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 03-Feb-97 Wilko Bulte wrote: >My TZ87 manual tells me that the drive has seen an excessive I/O error >rate. The log it refers to (log pages 2/3) use 4 byte counters >to count the different errors (corrected, fatal etc). It seems your >drive is reporting loads of errors to the system. Maybe NT just >ignores these? > >Questions: > >- is it always on the same tape? No. >- is there a switching power supply in the drives neighbourhood? > Mine became very upset when the PS transformer induced EMI into the > head and/or electronics. No. My power supply is Smart UPS which is placed appr. 10 meters from the computer. > >I have an NRC810. Works fine with 2.1R and 2.1.5R > >Did you have problems with all these FreeBSD versions? With 2.1R. After 2.1R I installed 2.2 Sergey ---------------------------------- Sergey Kosyakov System Administrator Landau Institute for Theoretical Physics E-Mail: Sergey S. Kosyakov Date: 05-Feb-97 Time: 09:59:16 ---------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Feb 4 23:37:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA10779 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 23:37:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA10774 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 23:37:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id BAA28191; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 01:36:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from wck-ca14-60.ix.netcom.com(207.92.174.124) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma028180; Wed Feb 5 01:36:48 1997 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.5/8.6.9) id XAA25845; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 23:35:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 23:35:27 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199702050735.XAA25845@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu CC: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from Chris Timmons on Tue, 4 Feb 1997 19:41:31 -0800 (PST)) Subject: Re: (not seeing) ECC penalty on Natoma From: asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * With 128MB (2x16x36) and an async /usr, i see no difference in the mw * build time between checking nothing and doing ECC. I would think that It can be either because (1) Natoma doesn't do anything when ECC is turned on (2) Natoma's ECC is as fast as non-ECC (or non-ECC is as slow as ECC) (3) Your benchmark does not exercise memory bandwidth very much I don't know how you can tell the difference between 1 and 2, but at least to see if it's 3 or not, pick up ftp://stampede.cs.berkeley.edu/pub/bcopy/bcopy-960524.tar.gz (yeah I know, haven't updated for ages) and look at the plot. (You'll need gnuplot to get a gif output.) You can see some other (old) results in http://now.cs.berkeley.edu/Td/bcopy.html Satoshi From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Feb 4 23:52:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA12226 for hardware-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 23:52:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from freebee.tu-graz.ac.at (root@freebee.tu-graz.ac.at [129.27.193.128]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA12193; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 23:52:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from dwarf.tu-graz.ac.at (dialup4.tu-graz.ac.at [129.27.250.5]) by freebee.tu-graz.ac.at (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA27212; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 08:49:48 +0100 Received: (from rmike@localhost) by dwarf.tu-graz.ac.at (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA00197; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 08:29:12 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 08:29:12 +0100 (MET) From: Michael Ranner Reply-To: rmike@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at To: HOSOKAWA Tatsumi cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, hosokawa@mt.cs.keio.ac.jp Subject: Re: AHA2920 / Future Domain TMC 1830 driver for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <199702040735.QAA05519@frig.mt.cs.keio.ac.jp> Message-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 4 Feb 1997, HOSOKAWA Tatsumi wrote: > Do you mean AHA2920 uses Future Domain TMC1830 chipset? > > TMC18C30 driver for PC-card SCSI can be found in newest PAO package > ported from NetBSD/pc98 (based on NetBSD 1.2). Possibly it can be > used for ISA cards. > > See "http://www.jp.FreeBSD.org/PAO/". I tried the URL yesterday, and it seems to be interesting for me. It is possible to get parts of the source from the PAO package. Is there any person, that I can contact? Michael From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Feb 5 11:29:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA04283 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 11:29:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from george.lbl.gov (george.lbl.gov [128.3.196.93]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA04265; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 11:29:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (jin@localhost) by george.lbl.gov (8.6.10/8.6.5) id LAA24115; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 11:27:52 -0800 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 11:27:52 -0800 From: "Jin Guojun[ITG]" Message-Id: <199702051927.LAA24115@george.lbl.gov> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: DEC 21040 v.s. DEC 21140 chip for ethernet cards Cc: hardware@freebsd.org Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Would someone please give me some information about the difference between ethernet cards using DEC 21040 and DEC 21140 chips? Is 21040 chip for 10BT and 21140 for 100 BT? Are they using same instruction sets? Thanks for any information, -Jin From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Feb 5 11:33:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA04530 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 11:33:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from Sisyphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (Sisyphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA04515; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 11:33:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (annexr3-8.slip.Uni-Koeln.DE) by Sisyphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE with SMTP id AA11238 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Wed, 5 Feb 1997 20:33:32 +0100 Received: (from se@localhost) by x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) id UAA05581; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 20:33:24 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <19970205203256.YE44873@x14.mi.uni-koeln.de> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 20:32:56 +0100 From: se@freebsd.org (Stefan Esser) To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Cc: Brett_Glass@infoworld.com, se@freebsd.org, Andre.Albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 5 devices in 4 PCI Slots ? References: <9701038549.AA854983543@ccgate.infoworld.com> <199702040003.KAA07826@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60-PL0 Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199702040003.KAA07826@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au>; from Michael Smith on Feb 4, 1997 10:33:24 +1030 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Feb 4, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) wrote: > Brett_Glass@infoworld.com stands accused of saying: > > Interesting. Is interrupt sharing implemented for other drivers as well > > (for instance, for PCMCIA multifunction cards that share an IRQ between an > > Ethernet NIC and a modem)? > > Interrupt sharing is a bus, not driver, issue. We've just done to death Well, it is a BUS + DRIVER issue, actually ... The BUS must physically support it (some kind of wired OR, or dedicated interrupt lines per slot fed into the PIC chip). The inputs must be level sensitive (it is possible to share edge triggered interrupts, but this does result in higher per interrupt overhead). And finally, the device driver must also support interrupt sharing. Its first action in the interrupt handler must be a test, whether THIS device was the cause of the interrupt, and an immediate return from the handler, if it was not ... Regards, STefan From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Feb 5 11:57:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA07299 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 11:57:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from Sisyphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (Sisyphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA07287; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 11:57:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (annexr3-8.slip.Uni-Koeln.DE) by Sisyphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE with SMTP id AA11332 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Wed, 5 Feb 1997 20:56:57 +0100 Received: (from se@localhost) by x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) id UAA05723; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 20:56:54 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <19970205205654.SA58957@x14.mi.uni-koeln.de> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 20:56:54 +0100 From: se@freebsd.org (Stefan Esser) To: regnauld@deepo.prosa.dk (Philippe Regnauld) Cc: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Finding Gigabyte 586-DX MB in Europe ? References: X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60-PL0 Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: ; from Philippe Regnauld on Feb 4, 1997 17:14:32 +0100 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Feb 4, regnauld@deepo.prosa.dk (Philippe Regnauld) wrote: > .... Where might I find one of those critters, preferably in the Northern > half of Europe ? SMP is itching :-) I've just checked, and they are offered by the following German mail order companies on the web (all prices icnluding 15% VAT, multiply by 0.53 to convert into US$): Computer Profis Gigabyte 586 DX Dual Pentium, 512 KB Pipeline Burst, HX 485DM (US$257) Mint Data Gigabyte GA-586DX (512 Burst) 519DM (US$275) Sunshine 10519 Gigabyte 586 DX, 3.3V , Dual, Adaptec UW, 512 KB 509DM (US$270) They typcially charge some 30DM (US$20) for p&p ... Regards, STefan From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Feb 5 16:52:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA29576 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:52:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from xmission.xmission.com (softweyr@xmission.xmission.com [198.60.22.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29567; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:52:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from softweyr@localhost) by xmission.xmission.com (8.8.5/8.7.5) id RAA08170; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 17:51:55 -0700 (MST) From: Softweyr LLC Message-Id: <199702060051.RAA08170@xmission.xmission.com> Subject: Re: DEC 21040 v.s. DEC 21140 chip for ethernet cards To: jin@george.lbl.gov (Jin Guojun[ITG]) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 17:51:54 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199702051927.LAA24115@george.lbl.gov> from "Jin Guojun[ITG]" at Feb 5, 97 11:27:52 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Would someone please give me some information about the difference > between ethernet cards using DEC 21040 and DEC 21140 chips? > Is 21040 chip for 10BT and 21140 for 100 BT? Yes. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.xmission.com/~softweyr softweyr@xmission.com From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Feb 5 19:26:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA01152 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 19:26:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from lserver.infoworld.com (lserver.infoworld.com [192.216.48.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA01141 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 19:25:59 -0800 (PST) From: Brett_Glass@infoworld.com Received: from ccgate.infoworld.com (ccgate.infoworld.com [192.216.49.101]) by lserver.infoworld.com (8.8.4/8.8.4/GNAC-GW-2.1) with SMTP id TAA10307 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 19:25:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from ccMail by ccgate.infoworld.com (SMTPLINK V2.11) id AA855199267; Wed, 05 Feb 97 19:10:42 PST Date: Wed, 05 Feb 97 19:10:42 PST Message-Id: <9701058551.AA855199267@ccgate.infoworld.com> To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Comtrol Rocketport Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk What is the status of support for the Comtrol Rocketport cards? Comtrol says it supports FreeBSD, but I can't find a driver in any of the distributions. From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Feb 5 23:23:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA22627 for hardware-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 23:23:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA22592 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 23:23:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.3/8.6.9) id SAA11969; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 18:18:33 +1100 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 18:18:33 +1100 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199702060718.SAA11969@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: Brett_Glass@infoworld.com, hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Comtrol Rocketport Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >What is the status of support for the Comtrol Rocketport cards? Comtrol Nonexistent. Bruce From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Feb 6 00:27:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA12205 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 00:27:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from minor.stranger.com (stranger.vip.best.com [204.156.129.250]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA12187 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 00:27:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from dog.farm.org (dog.farm.org [207.111.140.47]) by minor.stranger.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id AAA06577; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 00:32:47 -0800 Received: (from dk@localhost) by dog.farm.org (8.7.5/dk#3) id AAA04549; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 00:26:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 00:26:07 -0800 (PST) From: Dmitry Kohmanyuk Message-Id: <199702060826.AAA04549@dog.farm.org> To: rohit@cs.umd.edu (Rohit Dube) Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZNYX 4 Port Ethernet Cards Newsgroups: cs-monolit.gated.lists.freebsd.hardware Organization: FARM Computing Association Reply-To: dk+@ua.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In article <199702031550.KAA22207@seine.cs.umd.edu> you wrote: > I was wondering if anybody out there had either the ZNYX ZX346 (4 X 10/100, > PCI) or ZX314 (4 X 10, PCI) working under FreeBSD2.2 with the regular > 'de' driver? ZX314 works for me with 2.2 snapshot and 3.0-SMP kernel installed on top of that. (I am not sure of exact versions, but I remember that I have installed them in December 1996). Just for reference, it's * $Id: if_de.c,v 1.56 1996/12/01 06:01:00 rgrimes Exp $ -- "Whoever invented double clicking should be shot in the head! Twice!!" --Craig Bruce From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Feb 6 00:49:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA18769 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 00:49:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (gatekeeper.barcode.co.il [192.116.93.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA18729; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 00:48:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (8.7.5/8.6.12) id KAA01672; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 10:49:04 +0200 (IST) X-Authentication-Warning: gatekeeper.barcode.co.il: smap set sender to using -f Received: from localhost.barcode.co.il(127.0.0.1) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il via smap (V1.3) id sma001670; Thu Feb 6 10:48:59 1997 Message-ID: <32F99A64.FCB@barcode.co.il> Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 10:46:28 +0200 From: Nadav Eiron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Softweyr LLC CC: "Jin Guojun[ITG]" , questions@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DEC 21040 v.s. DEC 21140 chip for ethernet cards References: <199702060051.RAA08170@xmission.xmission.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Softweyr LLC wrote: > > > Would someone please give me some information about the difference > > between ethernet cards using DEC 21040 and DEC 21140 chips? > > Is 21040 chip for 10BT and 21140 for 100 BT? > > Yes. > > -- > "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" > > Wes Peters Softweyr LLC > http://www.xmission.com/~softweyr softweyr@xmission.com Note that there are newer variants for both: For 10BaseT there is the 21041 (works fine). For 100BaseT there is the 21140-AC (needs some patching to the driver sometimes, search the archives for recent postings) and the 21142 (never tried it on FreeBSD). Nadav From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Feb 6 07:03:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA16914 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 07:03:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from msp-ln05.dgii.com (msp-ln05.dgii.com [204.221.110.51]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA16892 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 07:03:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from Lotus Notes (PU Serial #1839) by msp-ln05.dgii.com (PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.9c for Windows NT(tm)) id AA-1997Feb06.080059.1839.364044; Thu, 06 Feb 1997 09:02:10 -0600 From: Ken_Germann@dgii.com (Ken I Germann) To: hardware@freebsd.org Message-ID: <1997Feb06.080059.1839.364044@msp-ln05.dgii.com> X-Conversion-ID: X-Mailer: Lotus Notes via PostalUnion/SMTP for Windows NT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Organization: Digi International Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 09:02:10 -0600 Subject: Can someone send me or tell me.. Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have heard rumors that someone has ported the Digi Linux drivers to FreeBSD. Can someone tell me where I can get the driver from? From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Feb 6 07:20:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA19752 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 07:20:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from alpha.pair.com (pair.com [207.86.128.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19739 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 07:20:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sigma@localhost) by alpha.pair.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) id KAA04556 for hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 10:22:05 -0500 (EST) From: Kevin Martin Message-Id: <199702061522.KAA04556@alpha.pair.com> X-Envelope-To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: SMC 9332BDT driver? To: hardware@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 10:22:04 -0500 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can someone comment on which versions of FreeBSD support the new SMC 9332BDT, which is being marketed as the EtherPower 10/100 even though it's not the same as the 9332DST which used to bear that name? I've seen several comments here that a driver is being worked on, that a driver is available somewhere, but no solid information. Is the support in 2.1.6? Will it be in 2.1.7? Will it be in 2.2? Can I take if_de.c from from 2.2-GAMMA to 2.1.6? What chipset is the BDT using, anyway? Thanks, Kevin Martin sigma@pair.com ps If anyone can recommend some other 10Mbps-capable PCI Ethernet NIC that has comparable performance, please do! From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Feb 6 10:53:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA21800 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 10:53:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21795 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 10:53:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA01482 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 10:53:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 10:53:06 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White X-Sender: dwhite@localhost Reply-To: Doug White To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: ASUS P/I-P55T2P4 + Mach64 = no X Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello! This seemms like somethign for this group. I have the above two pieces of equipment - a grand-spanking-new ASUS P55T2P4 with a P133 in it, and a Mach64 GX video card that was in my old motherboard, a SiS 54P. The problem I'm having is that when X exits and goes from graphics (800x600x16) to text mode, FreeBSD panics. The console is dead so I don't have the panic output, but I'm planning on making a serial console kernel so I pick this info up. The machine works fine otherwise, even with both 60ns and (supposedly) 70ns RAM. :) I've pulled out everything (being a NCR SCSI controller, GUS PnP, & a 3Com 3c900) and twiddled varios BIOS settings without any change. I have a pre-CT Mach64 w/ 2MB of DRAM (vs. 2MB VRAM) that I want to try. I'm on X 3.2 using the Mach64 server. Other note -- i can't boot DOS anymore either, it pops up the 'Starting MS-DOS', then the scren goes grey then the display turns off. Odd. :-/ Someone mentioned to me that the ASUS boards have a bad interaction with the mach64 -- can anyone back this up? Thnx for any insight. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Feb 6 10:58:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA22088 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 10:58:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from humvee.doit.wisc.edu (humvee.doit.wisc.edu [144.92.9.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22050; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 10:58:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from audumla.students.wisc.edu by humvee.doit.wisc.edu; id MAA07578; 8.7.5/50; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:58:03 -0600 Received: from gabor-bsd by audumla.students.wisc.edu; id MAA64106; 8.6.9W/42; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:56:23 -0600 Message-ID: <32FA29A1.41C67EA6@acm.org> Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 12:57:37 -0600 From: Gabor Kincses X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org Subject: Panic in probe, but no dump Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have been trying to get the Voxware 2.90b drivers on 2.1.5 to recognize my Logitech Soundman Wave card correctly. I managed to get the card recognized as Soundblaster Pro 3.1, but unfortunately only one speaker is working. So after much searching of FreeBSD and Linux resources on the Net, I have concluded that this card is in fact a MediaVision Jazz16. I have looked at sound.doc and sound_config.h in i386/isa/sound and saw a few useful-looking options that I added to my kernel config. One problem I was faced with is that /usr/sbin/config didn't like option JAZZ16, but understood option "JAZZ16". Similarly JAZZ16 was not an acceptable name, but JAZZ was. I'm not sure if this is documented anywhere. Certain defines are missing for the JAZZ16 and the SM_WAVE options. It seems to me that Linux has much newer drivers than FreeBSD, although this is still to be proven. The problem I have is to get a dump out of the sound driver probe. I pretty much followed the handbook on this. I have set config root on wd2 dumps on wd2 in my config file, but no dump occurred (I checked . I did savecore -f in single user mode to try to get anything out of the swap device to no avail. I managed to locate where the page fault occurred based on an earlier post by roberto@eurocontrol.fr: nm /kernel | sort |grep 0xf01948 The panic was reported at EIP=0xf01948a4 which is _initialize_smw in my kernel. I would like to see the actual offending line of code. So my questions are: 1. Is there a way to load the kernel.debug in gdb and correlate addresses with lines of code? (Like on HP-UX w/ xdb: one can use 'td') 2. Why am I not getting a core dump? Would the disk "rattle" a bit to save the kernel core, or is it already on the swap device? Ie. what macroscopic events would tell me that I got a dump? (Possibly: "core dumped" msg on the console :-) 3. I have turned on savecore in /etc/sysconfig, but I have noticed that the swapon gets executed first in /etc/rc before the savecore. Wouldn't this wipe out a core in the swap device? 4. How can one get any description of the I/O registers of a device? 5. Is my only option left is ddb? 6. Is a page fault essentially like a segmentation violation in user mode? AFAIK on i386 you have to install a page fault handler, which is probably what the VM is all about. Is this true? 7. Why is the "dumps on" feature being deprecated? How else can we get a dump if the system crashes before dumpon can be executed? BTW, My swapkernel.c looks like this: #include #include dev_t rootdev = makedev(0, 0x00000010); /* wd2a */ dev_t dumpdev = makedev(0, 0x00000011); /* wd2b */ void setconf() { } Thanks, -- Gabor Kincses (gabor@acm.org) From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Feb 6 15:40:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA15369 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 15:40:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from irbs.irbs.com (jc@irbs.irbs.com [199.182.75.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA15364 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 15:40:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jc@localhost) by irbs.irbs.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA04105; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 18:40:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19970206183959.PH52993@irbs.com> Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 18:39:59 -0500 From: jc@irbs.com (John Capo) To: sigma@pair.com (Kevin Martin) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SMC 9332BDT driver? References: <199702061522.KAA04556@alpha.pair.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Organization: IRBS Engineering, (954) 792-9551 In-Reply-To: <199702061522.KAA04556@alpha.pair.com>; from Kevin Martin on Feb 6, 1997 10:22:04 -0500 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Quoting Kevin Martin (sigma@pair.com): > > Can someone comment on which versions of FreeBSD support the new SMC > 9332BDT, which is being marketed as the EtherPower 10/100 even though it's > not the same as the 9332DST which used to bear that name? None. > > I've seen several comments here that a driver is being worked on, that a > driver is available somewhere, but no solid information. Is the support in > 2.1.6? Will it be in 2.1.7? Will it be in 2.2? Can I take if_de.c from > from 2.2-GAMMA to 2.1.6? What chipset is the BDT using, anyway? > The BDT uses the 21140A chipset. ftp://ftp.irbs.com/FreeBSD/pci/if_de.c is for 2.1.6 and supports the 21140A. This version is from -current in November modifed for 2.1.6 and the 21140A. John Capo From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Feb 6 21:28:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA05929 for hardware-outgoing; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:28:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from csgrad.cs.vt.edu (csgrad.cs.vt.edu [128.173.41.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA05919 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:28:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by csgrad.cs.vt.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/19Sep94-1023AM) id AA01619; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 00:28:26 -0500 Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 00:28:26 -0500 From: Tommy Johnson Message-Id: <9702070528.AA01619@csgrad.cs.vt.edu> To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: More than one SoundBlaster? Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am attempting to install 2 SoundBlaster 16 cards in my FreeBSD box. The first attempt, with sb0 and sb1 devices in the config file failed miserably. I looked at the source, and can understand why, all the board state info is in global variables, instead of a per-card struct. Before I attempt to fix that problem (with much agony...), has anyone else fixed it? I was looking at the OSS and OSS/Free WWW site (http://www.4front-tech.com/ossfree/index.html) which says they will be releasing the FreeBSD version "soon". What is FreeBSD's relation to 4front tech and/or OSS? (and do they fix this problem? though asking them would probably be more effective...) Anyway, if you would like to try the sound editor I'm attempting to write/set this up for, its at http://csgrad.cs.vt.edu/~tjohnson/sampo/. Plan B: I also have a Gravis Ultrasound, which I would use except that it dosn't sample at the right frequency (setting it for 44.1KHz does not get you 44.1KHz audio). Does anyone have a fix for that problem? Software: I'm running FreeBSD-Current as of about mid December with the SMP /usr/src/sys subtree (which is not compatable with current -current, last time I checked about 2 weeks ago.). Thanks in Advance for any help... -Tom "Please explain to me the scientific nature of the Wammie." -Scully tjohnson@csREMOVEgrad.cs.vt.edu remove the REMOVEs... (avoid address sniffers) http://csREMOVEgrad.cs.vt.edu/~tjohnson/ Commercial email is unwelcome. Message and signature (c) 1997 Tommy O. Johnson, all rights reserved From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Feb 7 03:31:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA20978 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 03:31:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from itp.ac.ru (itp.ac.ru [193.233.32.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA20856 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 03:28:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from speecart.chg.ru (speecart.chg.ru [193.233.46.2]) by itp.ac.ru (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id OAA24458; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 14:23:22 +0300 (MSK) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199702042213.XAA02561@yedi.iaf.nl> Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 14:12:04 +0300 (MSK) Organization: Landau Institute for Theoretical Physics From: "Sergey S. Kosyakov" To: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: DEC TZ87 Cc: hardware@freebsd.org Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 04-Feb-97 Wilko Bulte wrote: >Hi > >Any luck with your TZ87? Have you tried the dlt_info script >I posted some time ago (to -scsi I think, maybe -hackers). > After the type fell: ------ Read errors log page ------ Corrected errors without substantial delay: 0 Corrected errors with possible delay : 0 Total errors : 0 Total errors corrected : 0 Total times correction algorithm processed: 0 ------ End of read errors log page ------ ------ Write errors log page ------ Corrected errors without substantial delay: 0 Corrected errors with possible delay : 0 Total errors : 362 Total errors corrected : 362 Total times correction algorithm processed: 0 ------ End of write errors log page ------ ------ Compression log page ------ Read compression ratio (* 100 %) : 0 Write compression ratio (* 100 %) : 171 Total host Mbytes reads : 0 Total host kbytes read residual : 0 On tape Mbytes read : 0 On tape kbytes read residual : 0 Host requested Mbytes written : 149 Host requested kbytes written residual : 655360 On tape Mbytes written : 87 On tape kbytes written residual : 0 ------ End of compression log page ------ ------ Inquiry Product data ------ Vendor : DEC ProductID : TZ87 (C) DEC Version : 9514 Released FW flag : 1 Firmware version : 5120 EEPROM Format : 4633 Firmware personality : 1 Firmware sub-personality : 1 Tape directory format version : 2 Controller hardware revision : 0 Drive EEPROM version : 30 Drive hardware version : 0 Media loader EEPROM version : 0 Media loader hardware version : 0 Media loader mechanical version : 0 Media loader present flag : 0 Drive library type code : 0 Regards, Sergey --------------------------------- Sergey Kosyakov Landau Institute for Theoretical Physics E-Mail: Sergey S. Kosyakov Date: 07-Feb-97 Time: 14:12:04 ---------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Feb 7 10:58:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA12368 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 10:58:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from Sisyphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (Sisyphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.212.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA12363 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 10:58:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (annexr3-15.slip.Uni-Koeln.DE) by Sisyphos.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE with SMTP id AA01084 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 7 Feb 1997 19:54:47 +0100 Received: (from se@localhost) by x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) id TAA06270; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 19:54:44 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <19970207195444.FX22053@x14.mi.uni-koeln.de> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 19:54:44 +0100 From: se@freebsd.org (Stefan Esser) To: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) Cc: michaelv@mindbender.serv.net (Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com), hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2G SCSI disks? References: <199702041043.CAA22950@MindBender.serv.net> <199702041335.AAA13715@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60-PL0 Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199702041335.AAA13715@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au>; from Michael Smith on Feb 5, 1997 00:05:36 +1030 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Feb 5, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) wrote: > Hell, Michael, there's a damn good reason why I specified SCSI disk > for these units. But the $400 IBM disk I specified might as well > never have existed; I have the option of an Atlas-II ($800) or a 2G > 'cuda (~$1000), or I swallow my pride and happiness and go IDE. In some mail order price lists I found the DORS to be replaced by a DCAS of same capacity and speed. The DCAS seems to be a little more expensive than the DORS (some 10%), though. (The DORS is available for <560DM (US$300) from multiple sources, the DCAS for 639DM or US$340 from a few. I didn't try to actually order one, the last few weeks, though ...) Is the 2GB Atlas II really that expensive ? I've seen it for 1075DM (which translates into US$570 if you substract the local VAT of 15%) and the 4GB version is 1579DM or US$840 ... Regards, STefan From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Feb 7 16:04:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA11351 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 16:04:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from deepo.prosa.dk ([193.89.187.27]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA11320 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 16:04:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from regnauld@localhost) by deepo.prosa.dk (8.8.5/8.8.4/prosa-1.1) id BAA19707; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 01:05:49 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 01:05:49 +0100 From: regnauld@deepo.prosa.dk (Philippe Regnauld) To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: 1542A board X-Mailer: Mutt 0.58 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-BETA_A i386 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just got hold of an Adaptec 1542A (assy 416006 03 rev D), which is a full length ISA SCSI controller. A few questions: - is it recognized as any other 1542 ? - does anyone have docs on this thingy (lots of jumpers, no explanations...) Thanks, -- Phil PS: I'm not subscribed to freebsd-hardware. -- -[ Philippe Regnauld / Systems Administrator / regnauld@.prosa.dk ]- -[ Location.: +55.4N +11.3E PGP Key: finger regnauld@deepo.prosa.dk ]- From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Feb 7 16:48:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA14328 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 16:48:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from panda.hilink.com.au (panda.hilink.com.au [203.2.144.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA14313 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 16:48:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from danny@localhost) by panda.hilink.com.au (8.7.6/8.7.3) id LAA13414; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 11:46:44 +1100 (EST) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 11:46:43 +1100 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: Philippe Regnauld cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 1542A board In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 8 Feb 1997, Philippe Regnauld wrote: > I just got hold of an Adaptec 1542A (assy 416006 03 rev D), which > is a full length ISA SCSI controller. A few questions: > > - is it recognized as any other 1542 ? > - does anyone have docs on this thingy (lots of jumpers, no explanations...) I have docs for 1542B, I think, if that is a help. All 1542s work with the aha code, I believe. Danny From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Feb 7 17:41:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA16846 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 17:41:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16840; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 17:41:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.2/8.7.3) id MAA14722; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 12:10:58 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199702080140.MAA14722@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: 2G SCSI disks? In-Reply-To: <19970207195444.FX22053@x14.mi.uni-koeln.de> from Stefan Esser at "Feb 7, 97 07:54:44 pm" To: se@freebsd.org (Stefan Esser) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 12:10:57 +1030 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, michaelv@mindbender.serv.net, hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Stefan Esser stands accused of saying: > On Feb 5, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) wrote: > > Hell, Michael, there's a damn good reason why I specified SCSI disk > > for these units. But the $400 IBM disk I specified might as well > > never have existed; I have the option of an Atlas-II ($800) or a 2G > > 'cuda (~$1000), or I swallow my pride and happiness and go IDE. > > In some mail order price lists I found the DORS to be replaced > by a DCAS of same capacity and speed. The DCAS seems to be a > little more expensive than the DORS (some 10%), though. That's correct. Unfortunately the DCAS units _aren't_available_ here yet. > Is the 2GB Atlas II really that expensive ? > I've seen it for 1075DM (which translates into US$570 if you > substract the local VAT of 15%) and the 4GB version is 1579DM > or US$840 ... US$570/0.78 -> AUD$730 + freight + markup makes about $800. > Regards, STefan -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Feb 7 18:38:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA19020 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 18:38:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from po1.glue.umd.edu (root@po1.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA19010; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 18:38:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from maryann.eng.umd.edu (maryann.eng.umd.edu [129.2.103.22]) by po1.glue.umd.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA21764; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 21:33:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by maryann.eng.umd.edu (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA05255; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 21:33:21 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: maryann.eng.umd.edu: chuckr owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 21:32:22 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@maryann.eng.umd.edu To: Michael Smith cc: Stefan Esser , michaelv@mindbender.serv.net, hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2G SCSI disks? In-Reply-To: <199702080140.MAA14722@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 8 Feb 1997, Michael Smith wrote: > Stefan Esser stands accused of saying: > > On Feb 5, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Smith) wrote: > > > Hell, Michael, there's a damn good reason why I specified SCSI disk > > > for these units. But the $400 IBM disk I specified might as well > > > never have existed; I have the option of an Atlas-II ($800) or a 2G > > > 'cuda (~$1000), or I swallow my pride and happiness and go IDE. > > > > In some mail order price lists I found the DORS to be replaced > > by a DCAS of same capacity and speed. The DCAS seems to be a > > little more expensive than the DORS (some 10%), though. > > That's correct. Unfortunately the DCAS units _aren't_available_ here yet. > > > Is the 2GB Atlas II really that expensive ? > > I've seen it for 1075DM (which translates into US$570 if you > > substract the local VAT of 15%) and the 4GB version is 1579DM > > or US$840 ... > > US$570/0.78 -> AUD$730 + freight + markup makes about $800. I don't know if it's of any interest or not, but Hi Tech Components of Los Angeles has been selling the DEC DPS3210D 2.1 GB FAST SCSI-2 disks for 299 bucks. They seem ok, I have 4 myself. These are Quantum things (made for DEC, but Quantum is now owned by Seagate). They have differential interfaces, but each comes with a differential->single ended SCSI converter daughtercard. I only need two of the converters, so I gave my extras to Rod Grimes (who said he had a use for them) so you could ask him about the interfacing. The reason I brought it up is because it seems to _still_ be the best deal on SCSI disks I've seen. I don't know the disks track record with others, but they haven't given me any problems at all. If you use two in the same machine, there's a trick to getting them to coexist happily (which is why I had two extra converters). > > > Regards, STefan > > -- > ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ > ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ > ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ > ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ > ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[ > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Feb 7 19:37:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA20977 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 19:37:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from iworks.InterWorks.org (deischen@iworks.interworks.org [128.255.18.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA20970 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 19:37:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from deischen@localhost) by iworks.InterWorks.org (8.7.5/) id VAA29352 for freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 21:37:45 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199702080337.VAA29352@iworks.InterWorks.org> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 21:37:45 -0600 (CST) From: "Daniel M. Eischen" To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: 10/100 Switching Hubs Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm upgrading our lab at work, and need to get a decent hub. Right now we're using Thin-net, but we've added 4/5 machines with 10/100 including a couple of FreeBSD systems. We would like to get a 10/100 switching hub to connection of the legacy systems, and to plan for future upgrades. An 8-12 port auto sensing hub is desired. I was looking at the SMC TigerSwitch 100. Any comments or other recommendations? Thanks, Dan Eischen deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Feb 7 20:22:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA22769 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 20:22:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from nexgen.ampr.org (max19-120.HiWAAY.net [208.147.146.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA22761 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 20:22:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from nexgen.ampr.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nexgen.ampr.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id WAA22017; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 22:22:34 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199702080422.WAA22017@nexgen.ampr.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Chuck Robey cc: hardware@freebsd.org From: dkelly@hiwaay.net Subject: Re: 2G SCSI disks? In-reply-to: Message from Chuck Robey of "Fri, 07 Feb 1997 21:32:22 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 22:22:32 -0600 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Chuck Robey writes: > > I don't know if it's of any interest or not, but Hi Tech Components of Los > Angeles has been selling the DEC DPS3210D 2.1 GB FAST SCSI-2 disks for 299 > bucks. They seem ok, I have 4 myself. These are Quantum things (made for > DEC, but Quantum is now owned by Seagate). ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I don't think Quantum is owned by Seagate. Conner bought Archive, Seagate bought Conner. Quantum bought Maynard and got DEC's disc and tape technology, most notably the DLT tape. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Feb 7 21:03:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA24117 for hardware-outgoing; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 21:03:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from po1.glue.umd.edu (root@po1.glue.umd.edu [129.2.128.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA24109 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 21:03:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from maryann.eng.umd.edu (maryann.eng.umd.edu [129.2.103.22]) by po1.glue.umd.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA23849; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 00:01:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by maryann.eng.umd.edu (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA05160; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 00:01:41 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: maryann.eng.umd.edu: chuckr owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 00:01:40 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@maryann.eng.umd.edu To: dkelly@hiwaay.net cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 2G SCSI disks? In-Reply-To: <199702080422.WAA22017@nexgen.ampr.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 7 Feb 1997 dkelly@hiwaay.net wrote: > Chuck Robey writes: > > > > I don't know if it's of any interest or not, but Hi Tech Components of Los > > Angeles has been selling the DEC DPS3210D 2.1 GB FAST SCSI-2 disks for 299 > > bucks. They seem ok, I have 4 myself. These are Quantum things (made for > > DEC, but Quantum is now owned by Seagate). > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > I don't think Quantum is owned by Seagate. Conner bought Archive, Seagate > bought Conner. Quantum bought Maynard and got DEC's disc and tape > technology, most notably the DLT tape. Yeah, I guess I was wrong on that. The drive is a DEC (Quantum) drive, tho, and the specs are easily available from an altavista search for DEC DSP3210. The deal seems so good, I don't understand too well why I don't hear more about them ... I'm pleased, anyhow. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Feb 8 01:39:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA02542 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 01:39:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (root@mexico.brainstorm.fr [193.56.58.253]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA02523 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 01:39:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (brasil.brainstorm.fr [193.56.58.33]) by mexico.brainstorm.eu.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id KAA03164; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 10:39:01 +0100 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by brasil.brainstorm.eu.org (8.8.4/8.6.12) with UUCP id KAA03935; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 10:38:29 +0100 Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.8.5/keltia-uucp-2.9) id KAA19854; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 10:35:23 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <19970208103523.AA41600@keltia.freenix.fr> Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 10:35:23 +0100 From: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Cc: regnauld@prosa.dk Subject: Re: 1542A board References: X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60,1-3,9 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT ctm#2999 In-Reply-To: ; from Philippe Regnauld on Feb 8, 1997 01:05:49 +0100 Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Philippe Regnauld: > - is it recognized as any other 1542 ? > - does anyone have docs on this thingy (lots of jumpers, no explanations...) Jörg has one in his scratch box I believe. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- The daemon is FREE! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 3.0-CURRENT #39: Sun Feb 2 22:12:44 CET 1997 From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Feb 8 03:53:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA07509 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 03:53:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.116.240]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA07500 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 03:53:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA21239; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 12:53:44 +0100 (MET) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.8.4/8.6.9) id MAA06628; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 12:56:10 +0100 (MET) From: Christoph Kukulies Message-Id: <199702081156.MAA06628@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: 1542A board In-Reply-To: from Philippe Regnauld at "Feb 8, 97 01:05:49 am" To: regnauld@deepo.prosa.dk (Philippe Regnauld) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 12:56:09 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I just got hold of an Adaptec 1542A (assy 416006 03 rev D), which > is a full length ISA SCSI controller. A few questions: > > - is it recognized as any other 1542 ? > - does anyone have docs on this thingy (lots of jumpers, no explanations...) Some time ago I was in the same situation. I got a Fax from Adaptec Munich/Germany (thanks to these friendly people here again) and that information can be found now on ftp://ftp.de.freebsd.org/incoming/ah1542a.tar.gz It some six or 7 pages in TIFF format. > > Thanks, > -- Phil > > PS: I'm not subscribed to freebsd-hardware. > > -- > > -[ Philippe Regnauld / Systems Administrator / regnauld@.prosa.dk ]- > -[ Location.: +55.4N +11.3E PGP Key: finger regnauld@deepo.prosa.dk ]- > > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Feb 8 09:01:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA19911 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 09:01:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from humvee.doit.wisc.edu (humvee.doit.wisc.edu [144.92.9.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA19905; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 09:01:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from audumla.students.wisc.edu by humvee.doit.wisc.edu; id LAA184646; 8.7.5/50; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 11:01:13 -0600 Received: from gabor-bsd by audumla.students.wisc.edu; id LAA27446; 8.6.9W/42; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 11:00:33 -0600 Message-ID: <32FCB17D.794BDF32@acm.org> Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 11:01:49 -0600 From: Gabor Kincses X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG CC: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: [Fwd: Re: OSS/Free for FreeBSD] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------1CFBAE3959E2B60015FB7483" Sender: owner-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------1CFBAE3959E2B60015FB7483 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The original author of the Voxware sound drivers that are included in the 2.1.5 source can soon be replaced by the O$$ drivers. The free version is to come quite a bit later. I am not affiliated with this company in any shape or form, just looking for sound drivers for FreeBSD. The linux source code can be downloaded from: ftp://linux.wauug.org/pub/ossfree/ Happy hacking. (Sorry for the cross-posts, yet again.) -- Gabor Kincses (gabor@acm.org) --------------1CFBAE3959E2B60015FB7483 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mail.acm.org by audumla.students.wisc.edu; id AAA91942; 8.6.9W/42; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 00:43:16 -0600 Received: from bessie.eunet.fi (bessie.eunet.fi [192.26.119.11]) by mail.acm.org (8.8.4/8.7.5) with ESMTP id BAA25512 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 01:42:22 -0500 Received: from savolai.fi (root@voxware.pp.fi [193.66.8.57]) by bessie.eunet.fi (8.8.4/8.8.3) with ESMTP id IAA27359; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 08:43:09 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (hannu@localhost) by savolai.fi (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA01507; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 08:41:39 +0200 Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 08:41:39 +0200 (EET) From: Hannu Savolainen X-Sender: hannu@batman To: Gabor Kincses cc: info@4front-tech.com Subject: Re: OSS/Free for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <32FC0435.41C67EA6@acm.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 7 Feb 1997, Gabor Kincses wrote: > I found info that the FreeBSD port is coming soon. > What version(s) are going to be supported? Is > 2.1.5 in the plans? I guess if we get the 2.2 > source we can port it back to 2.1.5 ourselves. OSS/Free for FreeBSD will not be released before late 97 or early 98. OSS/FreeBSD (the commercial version) will be released soon after the final FreeBSD 2.2 is available. It will work only with 2.2 (and later). The exact release date is not known yet. Best regards, Hannu ------ Hannu Savolainen (hannu@voxware.pp.fi, hannu@4front-tech.com) http://www.4Front-Tech.com/oss.html (Open Sound System (OSS)) http://personal.eunet.fi/pp/voxware (OSS Free/TASD/VoxWare) --------------1CFBAE3959E2B60015FB7483-- From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Feb 8 10:32:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA23437 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 10:32:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from iafnl.es.iaf.nl (uucp@iafnl.es.iaf.nl [195.108.17.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA23431 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 10:32:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by iafnl.es.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA27753 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for hardware@freebsd.org); Sat, 8 Feb 1997 19:31:11 +0100 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.7.5/8.6.12) id TAA12884; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 19:22:50 +0100 (MET) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199702081822.TAA12884@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: DEC TZ87 To: ks@itp.ac.ru (Sergey S. Kosyakov) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 19:22:50 +0100 (MET) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Sergey S. Kosyakov" at Feb 7, 97 02:12:04 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Sergey S. Kosyakov wrote... > > On 04-Feb-97 Wilko Bulte wrote: > >Hi > > > >Any luck with your TZ87? Have you tried the dlt_info script > >I posted some time ago (to -scsi I think, maybe -hackers). [snip] > Corrected errors without substantial delay: 0 > Corrected errors with possible delay : 0 > Total errors : 362 > Total errors corrected : 362 I've never seen more than just a few errors on my drive. There's more status info to be requested from the drive, I'll hack my script some more to see if I can get at it. Hopefully tomorrow. Stay tuned. Wilko _ ____________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl - Arnhem, The Netherlands |/|/ / / /( (_) Do, or do not. There is no 'try' - Yoda -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Feb 8 14:17:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA03688 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 14:17:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from bmccane.uit.net (bmccane.uit.net [208.129.189.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA03666 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 14:17:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by bmccane.uit.net (8.8.4/8.7.3) id QAA00627; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:16:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:16:12 -0600 (CST) From: Wm Brian McCane To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Mustek Scanner Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, I have a Mustek Scanner (12000SP), and I am currently using the SCSI card that came with it. According to what I have read, the card is a NCR 53C400, however this is a 16-bit ISA card. I configured it for 0x2a0, and then enabled the nca4 driver in my kernel with i/o=0x2a0 and irq=?. I don't believe this board will support interrupts. Anyway, the upshot is that the kernel recognizes the board as a NCR 53C80, and thats it. It doesn't find the scanner on the SCSI bus. I have the following in my config file: controller nca4 at isa? port 0x2a0 bio irq ? vector ncaintr controller scbus0 device st0 device cd0 device pt0 at scbus? options SCSIDEBUG Am I missing something obvious/stupid? I also tried to modify ncr5380.c to test for the 53C400 first, and the driver then cannot locate the card at all. brian +-------------------------------------+----------------------------------------+ He rides a cycle of mighty days, and \ Wm Brian and Lori McCane he represents the last great schizm \ McCane Consulting among the gods. Evil though he obviously \ root@bmccane.uit.net is, he is a mighty figure, this father of \ http://bmccane.uit.net/~pictures/ my spirit, and I respect him as the sons \ http://bmccane.uit.net/~bmccane/ of old did the fathers of their bodies. \ http://bmccane.uit.net/~bbs/ Roger Zelazny - "Lord of Light" \ +---------------------------------------------+--------------------------------+ From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Feb 8 15:12:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA06331 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 15:12:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from rocky.mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06326 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 15:12:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nate@localhost) by rocky.mt.sri.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA02623; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:12:36 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:12:36 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199702082312.QAA02623@rocky.mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Wm Brian McCane Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mustek Scanner In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have a Mustek Scanner (12000SP), and I am currently using the > SCSI card that came with it. [ Card found, but Scanner isn't ] > Am I missing something obvious/stupid? FreeBSD doesn't have 'scanner' support. The HP scanners that are supported 'just happen' to response as processor type devices, and the user-mode driver that works with it is specific to the HP. I believe NetBSD has some scanner support, but I haven't looked at it since I attempted (unsuccessfull) to port it to FreeBSD a couple years ago. Nate From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Feb 8 22:24:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA29957 for hardware-outgoing; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 22:24:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from bmccane.uit.net (bmccane.uit.net [208.129.189.48]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA29935 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 22:23:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by bmccane.uit.net (8.8.4/8.7.3) id AAA11078; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 00:23:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 00:23:43 -0600 (CST) From: Wm Brian McCane To: Nate Williams cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mustek Scanner In-Reply-To: <199702082312.QAA02623@rocky.mt.sri.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hardware@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 8 Feb 1997, Nate Williams wrote: > > I have a Mustek Scanner (12000SP), and I am currently using the > > SCSI card that came with it. > > [ Card found, but Scanner isn't ] > > > Am I missing something obvious/stupid? > > FreeBSD doesn't have 'scanner' support. The HP scanners that are > supported 'just happen' to response as processor type devices, and the > user-mode driver that works with it is specific to the HP. > > I believe NetBSD has some scanner support, but I haven't looked at it > since I attempted (unsuccessfull) to port it to FreeBSD a couple years > ago. I thought that the SCSI drivers would at least return an indication that a device was found on the bus, and just say it didn't know what to do with it. Isn't that what the SCSI_DEBUG option is for? Anyway, I believe it did this a few years ago when I put a WORM drive on my machine and there was no support it. I am sure it located a 280M SONY SMO drive I used to use with FreeBSD, long before there was special support for it in the kernel. brian