From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Apr 13 09:39:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA13202 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 09:39:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cicerone.uunet.ca (root@cicerone.uunet.ca [142.77.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA13197 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 09:39:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from why.whine.com ([205.150.249.1]) by mail.uunet.ca with ESMTP id <115521-29150>; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 12:38:58 -0400 Received: from why (why [205.150.249.1]) by why.whine.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA00624; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 12:38:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 12:38:59 -0400 From: Andrew Herdman X-Sender: andrew@why To: Amancio Hasty cc: Andrew Herdman , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unknown board In-Reply-To: <199704130111.SAA01368@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk :( Oh well. Thanks Amancio. Andrew On Sat, 12 Apr 1997, Amancio Hasty wrote: > They use the new Philips chipset SAA 7145 which we don't have a device > driver for. > > Amancio > > >From The Desk Of Andrew Herdman : > > We've got some boca Video Phone elite kits at work. These consist of a > > standard video camera and a PCI video capture board. I'm wondering if > > anyone has any experience with these units and if there is a driver in > > FreeBSD that can be used with the capture board. It has no distigushing > > features on it other than and FCC ID of EUD 5U9 BRI4525. Two of the most > > distigushed chips are an AT&T AV44000A44HS, and a Philips SAA 7145 R2 > > > > Anything anyone knows would be most appreciated. > > > > Thanks > > Andrew > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Apr 14 00:23:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA22637 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 00:23:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA22632 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 00:23:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA07882; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 00:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 00:21:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White X-Sender: dwhite@localhost Reply-To: Doug White To: Rob Urban cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how compile qcamdriver-1.1 lkm???? In-Reply-To: <3350624E.167E@rto.dec.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 13 Apr 1997, Rob Urban wrote: > I'm pulling my hair out in frustration at the assumptions > that get made about what other people know... > > I've just copied qcamdriver v1.1 and I haven't the faintest idea > how to go about re-compiling a lkm. 'make' ? If you are running 2.1.6 (2.2?) or later, there is a quickcam driver, qcam, built into the kernel. All you need is a device qcam0 at isa? port 0x378 tty irq 7 flags 0x1 in your kernel config. 1.1 is old, btw, I've seen 1.2. This is basically the same thing you are trying to compile. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Apr 14 10:57:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA02178 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 10:57:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA02171 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 10:57:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id TAA26774; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:08:39 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199704141708.TAA26774@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Sync locking problem with Bt848 ? To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:08:39 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199704090913.CAA00501@rah.star-gate.com> from "Amancio Hasty" at Apr 9, 97 02:12:43 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have the Bt848 driver working with a Hauppauge board. I am testing it with the tuner input (I am in a PAL/50Hz country) and notice that either the tuner has a poor sensitivity (but the audio comes out with very good qualyty -- I know it is less critical...) or the Bt848 is a bit critical in locking into the sync, unless the signal is very strong. In the meteor driver there were parameters (different for 50 and 60Hz) to locate precisely the position of sync pulses . Is there anything similar for the Bt848 ? Can someone send me a copy of the relevant info so that I can try to patch the driver ? Thanks Luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Apr 14 13:42:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA13052 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 13:42:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (mvs.oac.ucla.edu [164.67.200.200]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA13035 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 13:42:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704142042.NAA13035@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: from UCLAMVS.BITNET by MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (IBM MVS SMTP V2R2.1) with BSMTP id 3448; Mon, 14 Apr 97 13:42:22 PST Date: Mon, 14 Apr 97 13:41 PDT To: multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG From: Denis DeLaRoca Subject: shmat: too many files open CC: questions@FREEBSD.ORG Sender: owner-multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk When running vic 2.8 I end up with shmat: too many files open as I attempt to open more than 3 video windows from a session that features multiple participants. My FreeBSD 2.2.1 kernel is configured for shared memory support and the following parms SHMMAXPGS=1025 "SHMMAX=(SHMMAXPGS*PAGE_SIZE+1)" should I increase the above further? What's the value of PAGE_SIZE? These values have changed... in an ancient 2.2 snapshot that I used to run with 2048KB of shared memory opening more than 3 vic video windows was never a problem. -- Denis From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Apr 14 15:22:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA19174 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:22:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA19168 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:22:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA03868 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704142222.PAA03868@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Has anyone managed to get StarOffice going? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:22:43 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Tnks, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Apr 14 15:41:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA20593 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:41:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caliban.dihelix.com (caliban.dihelix.com [198.180.136.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA20573 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:41:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from langfod@localhost) by caliban.dihelix.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) id MAA03701; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 12:41:09 -1000 (HST) Message-Id: <199704142241.MAA03701@caliban.dihelix.com> Subject: Re: Has anyone managed to get StarOffice going? In-Reply-To: <199704142222.PAA03868@rah.star-gate.com> from Amancio Hasty at "Apr 14, 97 03:22:43 pm" To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 12:41:09 -1000 (HST) Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org From: "David Langford" X-blank-line: This space intentionaly left blank. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have it going on two of my machines. Wish soffice was still there. > > Tnks, > Amancio > > > > -David Langford langfod@dihelxi.com From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Apr 14 17:31:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA27426 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 17:31:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cais.cais.com (root@cais.com [199.0.216.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA27407 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 17:31:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from earth.mat.net (root@earth.mat.net [205.252.122.1]) by cais.cais.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA02612; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 20:31:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Journey2.mat.net (journey2.mat.net [205.252.122.116]) by earth.mat.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA21510; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 20:31:24 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 20:30:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Amancio Hasty cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Has anyone managed to get StarOffice going? In-Reply-To: <199704142222.PAA03868@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 14 Apr 1997, Amancio Hasty wrote: I did, thanks to your help in part. Some of the startup scripts I had to change. > > Tnks, > Amancio > > > > > ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 9120 Edmonston Ct #302 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Apr 14 22:35:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA17456 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 22:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asgard.hos.net (asgard.hos.net [205.238.129.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA17433 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 22:35:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from faulkner@localhost) by asgard.hos.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) id AAA02325; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 00:35:23 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19970415003523.04886@asgard.hos.net> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 00:35:23 -0500 From: "Boyd R. Faulkner" To: Amancio Hasty Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Has anyone managed to get StarOffice going? References: <199704142222.PAA03868@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199704142222.PAA03868@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Mon, Apr 14, 1997 at 03:22:43PM -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Yeah, I got it going. It locked up the machine, too. Another time, the mouse got focus and wouldn't let go until I dropped out of X. I am running the static version on top of fvwm2. 16bpp. It looks nice. If it were more stable.... I am running current only a few days old. Boyd -- Boyd Faulkner "The Gods don't drag people, The Gods faulkner@asgard.hos.net sucker punch them until the poor fools http://asgard.hos.net/~faulkner pay attention and do it for themselves." 1011101 - Soror Sia From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Apr 14 22:41:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA17820 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 22:41:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA17812 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 22:41:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA06666; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 22:41:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704150541.WAA06666@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: "Boyd R. Faulkner" cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Has anyone managed to get StarOffice going? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 15 Apr 1997 00:35:23 CDT." <19970415003523.04886@asgard.hos.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 22:41:20 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It is stable. I can think of a couple of things that is going over there: -current is messing up -Your version of XFree86 or the support for your SVGA Can you tell us which version of XFree86 are you using and the make and model of your vga card? Tnks! Amancio >From The Desk Of "Boyd R. Faulkner" : > Yeah, I got it going. It locked up the machine, too. Another time, the > mouse got focus and wouldn't let go until I dropped out of X. I am > running the static version on top of fvwm2. 16bpp. > > It looks nice. If it were more stable.... > > I am running current only a few days old. > > Boyd > -- > Boyd Faulkner "The Gods don't drag people, The Gods > faulkner@asgard.hos.net sucker punch them until the poor fools > http://asgard.hos.net/~faulkner pay attention and do it for themselves." > 1011101 - Soror Sia From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Apr 14 23:36:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA20210 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:36:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grackle.grondar.za (oivkr+AjPRcku+0kqWQD8pc19K5vi9Q/@grackle.grondar.za [196.7.18.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA20171 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:35:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grackle.grondar.za (TVByA/hyIbSQeT2WRsk1GGEP6TGLsNux@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grackle.grondar.za (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id IAA25203; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 08:35:15 +0200 (SAT) Message-Id: <199704150635.IAA25203@grackle.grondar.za> To: Amancio Hasty cc: "Boyd R. Faulkner" , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Has anyone managed to get StarOffice going? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 08:35:08 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi I get the same mous-freezes that Boyd does. The pointer moves, but it never changes shape, and clicks are ignored. A fix is to go to a virtual console and kill swriter3. The app does not die; when I come back to the graphical screen, there is an OK box with the message "cannot exit now, wait until OLE nad background printing are finished". (Words are paraphrased and inaccurate). Printing does not work for me. The machine takes a _hell_ of a long time, beeps once or twice, says it is printing, but nothing happens. My machine is a 486DX50 with 16MB of ram, and it swaps like nobody's business when StarOffice apps run. (I'm sure the fact that I have SCSI disks help!) On Mon, 14 Apr 1997 22:41:20 -0700 , Amancio Hasty wrote: > Can you tell us which version of XFree86 are you using and the make and > model of your vga card? I am using X11r6.1 (3.2 of Xfree86) compiled myself on March 31. My video card is an ordinary ET4000 with 1MB of VRAM and running in 8-bit mode. I am using the static version (the port) on top of ctwm. > > Tnks! > Amancio > > > From The Desk Of "Boyd R. Faulkner" : > > Yeah, I got it going. It locked up the machine, too. Another time, the > > mouse got focus and wouldn't let go until I dropped out of X. I am > > running the static version on top of fvwm2. 16bpp. > > > > It looks nice. If it were more stable.... > > > > I am running current only a few days old. > > > > Boyd > > -- > > Boyd Faulkner "The Gods don't drag people, The Gods > > faulkner@asgard.hos.net sucker punch them until the poor fools > > http://asgard.hos.net/~faulkner pay attention and do it for themselves." > > 1011101 - Soror Sia > > -- Mark Murray PGP key fingerprint = 80 36 6E 40 83 D6 8A 36 This .sig is umop ap!sdn. BC 06 EA 0E 7A F2 CE CE From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Apr 14 23:56:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA20938 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:56:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asgard.hos.net (asgard.hos.net [205.238.129.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA20932 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 23:56:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from faulkner@localhost) by asgard.hos.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) id BAA05125; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 01:56:23 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19970415015622.01271@asgard.hos.net> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 01:56:22 -0500 From: "Boyd R. Faulkner" To: Mark Murray Cc: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Has anyone managed to get StarOffice going? References: <199704150635.IAA25203@grackle.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199704150635.IAA25203@grackle.grondar.za>; from Mark Murray on Tue, Apr 15, 1997 at 08:35:08AM +0200 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, Apr 15, 1997 at 08:35:08AM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > Hi > > I get the same mous-freezes that Boyd does. The pointer moves, but it never > changes shape, and clicks are ignored. > > My machine is a 486DX50 with 16MB of ram, and it swaps like nobody's > business when StarOffice apps run. (I'm sure the fact that I have SCSI > disks help!) > Mine is a P100 with 64MB. Are you running moused? Are you running current? Boyd From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Apr 15 01:23:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA24951 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 01:23:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA24945 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 01:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA00694; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 01:23:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704150823.BAA00694@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: "Boyd R. Faulkner" cc: Mark Murray , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Has anyone managed to get StarOffice going? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 15 Apr 1997 01:56:22 CDT." <19970415015622.01271@asgard.hos.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 01:23:11 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have an PPro 200Mhz with 48MB of memory . StarOffice runs fine over here. Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of "Boyd R. Faulkner" : > On Tue, Apr 15, 1997 at 08:35:08AM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > > Hi > > > > I get the same mous-freezes that Boyd does. The pointer moves, but it never > > changes shape, and clicks are ignored. > > > > My machine is a 486DX50 with 16MB of ram, and it swaps like nobody's > > business when StarOffice apps run. (I'm sure the fact that I have SCSI > > disks help!) > > > > Mine is a P100 with 64MB. Are you running moused? Are you running current? > > Boyd From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Apr 15 06:45:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA10180 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 06:45:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miller.cs.uwm.edu (miller.cs.uwm.edu [129.89.139.22]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA10155; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 06:45:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from james@localhost) by miller.cs.uwm.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA22341; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 08:44:46 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 08:44:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Jim Lowe Message-Id: <199704151344.IAA22341@miller.cs.uwm.edu> To: CSP1DWD@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: shmat: too many files open Cc: questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > From: Denis DeLaRoca > Subject: shmat: too many files open > > When running vic 2.8 I end up with > > shmat: too many files open > > as I attempt to open more than 3 video windows from a session that > features multiple participants. My FreeBSD 2.2.1 kernel is configured > for shared memory support and the following parms > > SHMMAXPGS=1025 > "SHMMAX=(SHMMAXPGS*PAGE_SIZE+1)" > > should I increase the above further? What's the value of PAGE_SIZE? > These values have changed... in an ancient 2.2 snapshot that I used > to run with 2048KB of shared memory opening more than 3 vic video > windows was never a problem. Under 2.2 you can use change the number of segments with: options "SHMSEG=32" # 32 segements/user (for X) options "SHMMNI=128" # 128 identifiers I don't know why the system defaults the number of segement to 8, it seems a little low to me. Hope it helps, -Jim From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Apr 15 07:08:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA11113 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 07:08:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asgard.hos.net (asgard.hos.net [205.238.129.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11108 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 07:08:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from faulkner@localhost) by asgard.hos.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) id JAA01684; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 09:08:09 -0459 (CDT) Message-ID: <19970415090809.27359@asgard.hos.net> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 09:08:09 -0459 From: "Boyd R. Faulkner" To: Amancio Hasty Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Has anyone managed to get StarOffice going? References: <19970415003523.04886@asgard.hos.net> <199704150541.WAA06666@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199704150541.WAA06666@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Mon, Apr 14, 1997 at 10:41:20PM -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I think I have found the culprit. XDM. moused is OK without xdm. Anyway, it seems fairly stable now, though the webbrowser has cratered a few times. It does not support 3.0 and assumes all text documents are to be converted. Boyd On Mon, Apr 14, 1997 at 10:41:20PM -0700, Amancio Hasty wrote: > It is stable. > > I can think of a couple of things that is going over there: > > -current is messing up > -Your version of XFree86 or the support for your SVGA > Can you tell us which version of XFree86 are you using and the make and > model of your vga card? > > Tnks! > Amancio > > > >From The Desk Of "Boyd R. Faulkner" : > > Yeah, I got it going. It locked up the machine, too. Another time, the > > mouse got focus and wouldn't let go until I dropped out of X. I am > > running the static version on top of fvwm2. 16bpp. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Apr 15 08:09:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA14466 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 08:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grackle.grondar.za (fiekbqHmH+QqJDvbJeAy430LagPDNJ4S@grackle.grondar.za [196.7.18.131]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA14454 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 08:08:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grackle.grondar.za (4DHyJQQG3zK5Ma2GvzZgBu2YSWCXUwCK@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grackle.grondar.za (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id RAA26739; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 17:08:16 +0200 (SAT) Message-Id: <199704151508.RAA26739@grackle.grondar.za> To: "Boyd R. Faulkner" cc: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Has anyone managed to get StarOffice going? Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 17:08:14 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 15 Apr 1997 01:56:22 -0500 , "Boyd R. Faulkner" wrote: > > My machine is a 486DX50 with 16MB of ram, and it swaps like nobody's > > business when StarOffice apps run. (I'm sure the fact that I have SCSI > > disks help!) > > > > Mine is a P100 with 64MB. Are you running moused? Are you running current? Yes. Yes. M -- Mark Murray PGP key fingerprint = 80 36 6E 40 83 D6 8A 36 This .sig is umop ap!sdn. BC 06 EA 0E 7A F2 CE CE From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Apr 15 08:46:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA16961 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 08:46:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asgard.hos.net (asgard.hos.net [205.238.129.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA16945 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 08:45:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from faulkner@localhost) by asgard.hos.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) id KAA03737; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 10:45:05 -0459 (CDT) Message-ID: <19970415104505.15634@asgard.hos.net> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 10:45:05 -0459 From: "Boyd R. Faulkner" To: Mark Murray Cc: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Has anyone managed to get StarOffice going? References: <199704151508.RAA26739@grackle.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199704151508.RAA26739@grackle.grondar.za>; from Mark Murray on Tue, Apr 15, 1997 at 05:08:14PM +0200 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, Apr 15, 1997 at 05:08:14PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: > On Tue, 15 Apr 1997 01:56:22 -0500 , "Boyd R. Faulkner" wrote: > > > My machine is a 486DX50 with 16MB of ram, and it swaps like nobody's > > > business when StarOffice apps run. (I'm sure the fact that I have SCSI > > > disks help!) > > > > > > > Mine is a P100 with 64MB. Are you running moused? Are you running current? > > Yes. Yes. But are you running XDM? If so, turn it off. That seems to work for me. Boyd > > M > -- > Mark Murray PGP key fingerprint = 80 36 6E 40 83 D6 8A 36 > This .sig is umop ap!sdn. BC 06 EA 0E 7A F2 CE CE -- Boyd Faulkner "The Gods don't drag people, The Gods faulkner@asgard.hos.net sucker punch them until the poor fools http://asgard.hos.net/~faulkner pay attention and do it for themselves." 1011101 - Soror Sia From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Apr 15 15:15:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA15344 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 15:15:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x14.boston.juno.com (x14.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.27]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA15331 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 15:15:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from n9ogk@juno.com) by x14.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id SuB17248; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 18:07:23 EDT To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Has anyone managed to get StarOffice going? Message-ID: <19970415.170116.11894.0.N9OGK@juno.com> References: <199704151508.RAA26739@grackle.grondar.za> X-Mailer: Juno 1.15 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 4-9,11,13-15 From: n9ogk@juno.com (Jack W Doyle) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 18:07:23 EDT Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I hate to jump in when I don't have any answers to your questions, but I was just wondering just what was StarOffice? Is it some kind of video conferencing thing, is it some kind of business-management thing, what is it? Can it be (or is it) run under X? If so, where can I find more info on it? Jack You know you've been using UNIX enough when: * You remember UNIX commands faster than those for DOS. * You try to configure Win95 the same way you try to configure your X window manager. * Someone asks you what wordproc you use and you reply 'vi' (or your favorite text editor). * You type 'ls -a' instead of 'dir /w' in DOS. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Apr 15 17:13:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA23047 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 17:13:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caliban.dihelix.com (caliban.dihelix.com [198.180.136.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA22945 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 17:12:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from langfod@localhost) by caliban.dihelix.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) id OAA08806; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:12:03 -1000 (HST) Message-Id: <199704160012.OAA08806@caliban.dihelix.com> Subject: Re: Has anyone managed to get StarOffice going? In-Reply-To: <199704142222.PAA03868@rah.star-gate.com> from Amancio Hasty at "Apr 14, 97 03:22:43 pm" To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:12:03 -1000 (HST) Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org From: "David Langford" X-blank-line: This space intentionaly left blank. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk actually, is anyone printing with SO? My first attempt so far has tossed everything into the bit bucket. Thanks, -David Langford langfod@dihelix.com From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Apr 15 17:23:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA23528 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 17:23:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA23523 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 17:23:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA03353; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 17:22:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704160022.RAA03353@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: "David Langford" cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Has anyone managed to get StarOffice going? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 15 Apr 1997 14:12:03 -1000." <199704160012.OAA08806@caliban.dihelix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 17:22:49 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hmm... Printing with swriter3 works over here. Check the default parameters for printing in swriter3... It should be in "File" - "Printer Setup" Not sure if it matters however I am using apsfilter for printing. Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of "David Langford" : > actually, is anyone printing with SO? > > My first attempt so far has tossed everything into the bit bucket. > > Thanks, > > -David Langford > langfod@dihelix.com From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Apr 15 17:38:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA24604 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 17:38:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay-7.mail.demon.net (relay-7.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.9]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA24598 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 17:38:48 -0700 (PDT) From: tim@funbox.demon.co.uk Received: from funbox.demon.co.uk ([158.152.85.52]) by relay-6.mail.demon.net id aa0608423; 16 Apr 97 1:13 BST Received: by funbox.demon.co.uk (mail 1.6) id 3353730C.00.165C; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 12:22:36 +0000 Message-ID: <3353730C.00.165C@funbox.demon.co.uk> To: multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 13:22:36 +0100 Subject: pin-out for MIDI 15-pin db connector on soundcard Lines: 19 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'd be most grateful if someone could tell me the pin-out for the MIDI 15-pin db connector on the back of a soundcard. I recently obtained a clone of a Soundblaster 16 which, to no surprise, came with minimal documentation. I need to make up a MIDI cable, as one of the main motivators for getting the card was the obtaining of an inexpensive means to drive an external MIDI synth. Trouble is, I haven't been able to find out which signal is on each pin of the db-15. Thanks! Tim ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Jackson *** tj@funbox.demon.co.uk *** fax +44 181 488 8662 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Apr 15 19:35:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA00604 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 19:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA00599 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 19:35:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA13431; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 19:35:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704160235.TAA13431@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Luigi Rizzo cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sync locking problem with Bt848 ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 14 Apr 1997 19:08:39 +0200." <199704141708.TAA26774@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 19:35:40 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Try setting or clearing the following bit: bt848->adc | BT848_ADC_SYNC_T thats bt848 register 0x68 bit 5. Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Luigi Rizzo : > Hi, > > I have the Bt848 driver working with a Hauppauge board. I am testing it > with the tuner input (I am in a PAL/50Hz country) and notice that > either the tuner has a poor sensitivity (but the audio comes out with > very good qualyty -- I know it is less critical...) or the Bt848 is a > bit critical in locking into the sync, unless the signal is very strong. > > In the meteor driver there were parameters (different for 50 and > 60Hz) to locate precisely the position of sync pulses . Is there > anything similar for the Bt848 ? Can someone send me a copy of the > relevant info so that I can try to patch the driver ? > > Thanks > Luigi > -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- > Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione > email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa > tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) > fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ > _____________________________|______________________________________ From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Apr 15 21:57:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA09226 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 21:57:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp (berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp [157.82.76.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA09182 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 21:57:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from shichi@localhost) by berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA03394; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 13:56:18 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199704160456.NAA03394@berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp> To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Faster Video for Pentium Pros only In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 07 Apr 1997 10:16:14 -0700" References: <199704071716.KAA02012@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.06 on Emacs 19.28.1, Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 13:56:18 +0900 From: Naohiro Shichijo Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From: Amancio Hasty Subject: Faster Video for Pentium Pros only Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 10:16:14 -0700 Message-ID: <199704071716.KAA02012@rah.star-gate.com> > I noticed that with mtv the maximum frame rate that I get playing > an mpeg file is 23.8 frames/sec with the linear frame buffer set > to WC my maximum frame rate using the same mpeg file is 30.1 8) Could you tell me.. what is mtv program? where can I get it? --- shichi From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Apr 15 22:59:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA12283 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 22:59:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA12278 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 22:59:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA00293; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 22:59:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704160559.WAA00293@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Naohiro Shichijo cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Faster Video for Pentium Pros only In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 16 Apr 1997 13:56:18 +0900." <199704160456.NAA03394@berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 22:59:05 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, mtv is a very fast mpeg player for Linux which we can use with the linux emulation layer . Please do a netscape search to locate "mtv". Best Regards, Amancio >From The Desk Of Naohiro Shichijo : > From: Amancio Hasty > Subject: Faster Video for Pentium Pros only > Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 10:16:14 -0700 > Message-ID: <199704071716.KAA02012@rah.star-gate.com> > > > I noticed that with mtv the maximum frame rate that I get playing > > an mpeg file is 23.8 frames/sec with the linear frame buffer set > > to WC my maximum frame rate using the same mpeg file is 30.1 8) > > Could you tell me.. what is mtv program? where can I get it? > > --- shichi From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Apr 15 23:33:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA16598 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:33:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caliban.dihelix.com (caliban.dihelix.com [198.180.136.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA16593 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:33:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from langfod@localhost) by caliban.dihelix.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) id UAA10417; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 20:32:41 -1000 (HST) Message-Id: <199704160632.UAA10417@caliban.dihelix.com> Subject: Re: Faster Video for Pentium Pros only In-Reply-To: <199704160559.WAA00293@rah.star-gate.com> from Amancio Hasty at "Apr 15, 97 10:59:05 pm" To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 20:32:41 -1000 (HST) Cc: shichi@berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp, multimedia@freebsd.org From: "David Langford" X-blank-line: This space intentionaly left blank. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Just had an odd though: anyone know if the AlhpaStar/DirectTV digital satellite dish thinges are MPEG-1 or MPEG-2? :) -David Langford langfod@dihelix.com >Hi, > >mtv is a very fast mpeg player for Linux which we can use with >the linux emulation layer . Please do a netscape search to locate >"mtv". > > Best Regards, > Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Apr 15 23:43:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA17306 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:43:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA17301 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:43:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA00995; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:43:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704160643.XAA00995@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: "David Langford" cc: shichi@berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Faster Video for Pentium Pros only In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 15 Apr 1997 20:32:41 -1000." <199704160632.UAA10417@caliban.dihelix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:43:12 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Good question, I am not sure . I doubt that is Mpeg 1 or Mpeg 2. I seem to recollect something about a CODEC developed at MIT. Hmmm... it would be rather nice if our FreeBSD boxes can reach out to the sky and grab mpeg files. It sort of changes the meaning of reach out and touch "a file " 8) Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of "David Langford" : > Just had an odd though: anyone know if the AlhpaStar/DirectTV digital > satellite dish thinges are MPEG-1 or MPEG-2? > > :) > > -David Langford > langfod@dihelix.com > > >Hi, > > > >mtv is a very fast mpeg player for Linux which we can use with > >the linux emulation layer . Please do a netscape search to locate > >"mtv". > > > > Best Regards, > > Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Apr 15 23:44:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA17390 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:44:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA17379 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:44:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA07180; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:44:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:44:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White X-Sender: dwhite@localhost Reply-To: Doug White To: Amancio Hasty cc: David Langford , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Has anyone managed to get StarOffice going? In-Reply-To: <199704160022.RAA03353@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 15 Apr 1997, Amancio Hasty wrote: > Hmm... > > Printing with swriter3 works over here. Check the default parameters for > printing in swriter3... It should be in "File" - "Printer Setup" > > Not sure if it matters however I am using apsfilter for printing. I rewired one of the LaserJets to print to lpr -Pps, the ghostscript->dj500 filter. :) Now, I have a stumper for you. For all the SO apps, for the icon buttons are just black & grey, no pictures. I actually got the new libc and the setup program to run, but no bitmaps anywhere. Hints? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Apr 15 23:52:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA17947 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:52:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA17936 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:52:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA01118; Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:52:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704160652.XAA01118@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Doug White cc: David Langford , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Has anyone managed to get StarOffice going? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:44:03 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 23:52:25 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sure run the X server in 16 bits or 8bits not in 24 or 32bits. I think it has problems displaying with 32 bits. Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Doug White : > On Tue, 15 Apr 1997, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > > Hmm... > > > > Printing with swriter3 works over here. Check the default parameters for > > printing in swriter3... It should be in "File" - "Printer Setup" > > > > Not sure if it matters however I am using apsfilter for printing. > > I rewired one of the LaserJets to print to lpr -Pps, the > ghostscript->dj500 filter. :) > > Now, I have a stumper for you. For all the SO apps, for the icon buttons > are just black & grey, no pictures. I actually got the new libc and the > setup program to run, but no bitmaps anywhere. > > Hints? > > Doug White | University of Oregon > Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Apr 16 01:25:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA29859 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 01:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp (berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp [157.82.76.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA29843 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 01:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from shichi@localhost) by berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA04066; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:21:33 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199704160821.RAA04066@berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp> To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com Cc: shichi@berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Faster Video for Pentium Pros only In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 15 Apr 1997 22:59:05 -0700" References: <199704160559.WAA00293@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.06 on Emacs 19.28.1, Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:21:33 +0900 From: Naohiro Shichijo Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thank you Amancio. I got it from http://www.mpegtv.com/ --- shichi From: Amancio Hasty Subject: Re: Faster Video for Pentium Pros only Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 22:59:05 -0700 Message-ID: <199704160559.WAA00293@rah.star-gate.com> > Hi, > > mtv is a very fast mpeg player for Linux which we can use with > the linux emulation layer . Please do a netscape search to locate > "mtv". > > Best Regards, > Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Apr 16 02:28:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA10095 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 02:28:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA10046 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 02:28:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA00854; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 02:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704160927.CAA00854@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Naohiro Shichijo cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Faster Video for Pentium Pros only In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:21:33 +0900." <199704160821.RAA04066@berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 02:27:43 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Cool. Is just that sometimes I download stuff from the Net and forget where I got it from and to get it again I have to do a "net search";hence, my humble request. Trust me I had no clue of where mtv was. tnks for the pointer because I am sure that others will ask for it. In fact, I think that is a good item to put up in our multimedia page at freebsd.org. So pretty please whoever is maintaining that page now days please add it . Regards, Amancio >From The Desk Of Naohiro Shichijo : > Thank you Amancio. I got it from http://www.mpegtv.com/ > > --- shichi > > From: Amancio Hasty > Subject: Re: Faster Video for Pentium Pros only > Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 22:59:05 -0700 > Message-ID: <199704160559.WAA00293@rah.star-gate.com> > > > Hi, > > > > mtv is a very fast mpeg player for Linux which we can use with > > the linux emulation layer . Please do a netscape search to locate > > "mtv". > > > > Best Regards, > > Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Apr 16 09:52:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA07400 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailbag.jf.intel.com (mailbag.jf.intel.com [134.134.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07391 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:52:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aahz.jf.intel.com (aahz.jf.intel.com [192.198.161.2]) by mailbag.jf.intel.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA14333; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:54:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by aahz.jf.intel.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #13) id m0wHXut-000hxlC; Wed, 16 Apr 97 09:50 PDT Message-Id: From: batie@aahz.jf.intel.com (Alan Batie) Subject: Re: Faster Video for Pentium Pros only To: langfod@dihelix.com (David Langford) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 09:50:43 -0700 (PDT) Cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, shichi@berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp, multimedia@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199704160632.UAA10417@caliban.dihelix.com> from "David Langford" at Apr 15, 97 08:32:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Just had an odd though: anyone know if the AlhpaStar/DirectTV digital > satellite dish thinges are MPEG-1 or MPEG-2? According to http://www.directv.com/hardware/tech.html they are mpeg-2 -- Alan Batie ------ What goes up, must come down. batie@aahz.jf.intel.com \ / Ask any system administrator. +1 503-264-8844 (voice) \ / --unknown D0 D2 39 0E 02 34 D6 B4 \/ 5A 41 21 8F 23 5F 08 9D From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Apr 16 10:02:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA07966 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 10:02:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailbag.jf.intel.com (mailbag.jf.intel.com [134.134.248.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07955 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 10:02:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aahz.jf.intel.com (aahz.jf.intel.com [192.198.161.2]) by mailbag.jf.intel.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA14847; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 10:04:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by aahz.jf.intel.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #13) id m0wHY4z-000hxlC; Wed, 16 Apr 97 10:01 PDT Message-Id: From: batie@aahz.jf.intel.com (Alan Batie) Subject: Re: Faster Video for Pentium Pros only To: langfod@dihelix.com (David Langford) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 10:01:09 -0700 (PDT) Cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, shichi@berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp, multimedia@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199704160632.UAA10417@caliban.dihelix.com> from "David Langford" at Apr 15, 97 08:32:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Just had an odd though: anyone know if the AlhpaStar/DirectTV digital > satellite dish thinges are MPEG-1 or MPEG-2? PS: the signal is encrypted, and it comes out of the decryptor as an analog signal for a TV, so I'm not sure there's anything can be done with it... -- Alan Batie ------ What goes up, must come down. batie@aahz.jf.intel.com \ / Ask any system administrator. +1 503-264-8844 (voice) \ / --unknown D0 D2 39 0E 02 34 D6 B4 \/ 5A 41 21 8F 23 5F 08 9D From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Apr 16 11:07:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA21549 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:07:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21527 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:07:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA03922; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:07:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:07:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White X-Sender: dwhite@localhost Reply-To: Doug White To: Amancio Hasty cc: David Langford , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Has anyone managed to get StarOffice going? In-Reply-To: <199704160652.XAA01118@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 15 Apr 1997, Amancio Hasty wrote: > Sure run the X server in 16 bits or 8bits not in 24 or 32bits. I'll try. It's in 15 bit mode at the moment so that the tv works. I'll send the list mail regarding my bt exploits in a moment. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Apr 16 11:18:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA25253 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:18:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caliban.dihelix.com (caliban.dihelix.com [198.180.136.138]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25192 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 11:18:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from langfod@localhost) by caliban.dihelix.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) id IAA13020; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 08:17:03 -1000 (HST) Message-Id: <199704161817.IAA13020@caliban.dihelix.com> Subject: Re: Faster Video for Pentium Pros only In-Reply-To: from Alan Batie at "Apr 16, 97 10:01:09 am" To: batie@aahz.jf.intel.com (Alan Batie) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 08:17:02 -1000 (HST) Cc: langfod@dihelix.com, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, shichi@berkeley.race.u-tokyo.ac.jp, multimedia@freebsd.org From: "David Langford" X-blank-line: This space intentionaly left blank. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Alan Batie >> Just had an odd though: anyone know if the AlhpaStar/DirectTV digital >> satellite dish thinges are MPEG-1 or MPEG-2? > >PS: the signal is encrypted, and it comes out of the decryptor as an >analog signal for a TV, so I'm not sure there's anything can be done with >it... hmmm. *rummage* I know there is a DSP library hiding around here somewhere :) -David Langford (who never pulls out the little cards out of the AlphaStar boxes while at Radio Shack just for fun) langfod@dihelix.com From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Apr 16 14:39:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA13768 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 14:39:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA13725 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 14:39:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:38:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04143; Wed, 16 Apr 97 17:38:38 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA18368; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:38:29 -0400 Message-Id: <19970416173828.02068@ct.picker.com> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:38:28 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Fxtv 0.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Just uploaded Fxtv 0.4 up at http://multiverse.com/~rhh/fxtv. This version adds the action routines a few folks have asked for, so you can now bind channel, volume, tuner input, mute, etc. to the keys or mouse buttons of your choice. This version also uses the XFree Video Mode extension (the part of it that's working anyway :-) to support auto mode-switching down to 640x480 when you zoom the video. The ChangeLog's attached below. I've been pretty busy with other things the last few weeks, so only a couple things that are new. Randall Changes from 0.3.2-0.4 ---------------------- - Allow hypenated ranges in channelList setting (e.g. 3-30) - Extended detection of pixel geometry and DirectVideo support - Should fix BGR cards until native driver support added - Prep work for driver pixel geometry support additions - Support separate channel lists for antenna and cable - New Xt Action routines (see sample Fxtv app-default file): - TVToggleZoom( [window|fullscreen] ) - zoom/unzoom the video window - TVSetChannel( [chan|+-inc] ) - set channel, abs or relative to current - TVSetVolume( [vol|+-inc] ) - set volume percentage, abs or relative - TVToggleMute() - mute/unmute audio - TVSetCaptureInput( [tuner|video|svhs|+-inc] - chg capture input, abs/rel - TVSetTunerMode ( [antenna|cable|+-inc] - chg tuner mode, abs/rel - baseTranslations set on videoWin to use action routines - Support mode (res) switch down when video window zoomed (fullscreen) - Viewport and SwitchToMode calls commented until XFree bugs fixed - Types renamed to avoid conflicts with Xwd.h From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Apr 16 15:20:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA20618 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 15:20:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA20592 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 15:20:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 18:19:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05031; Wed, 16 Apr 97 18:19:11 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA18745; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 18:18:56 -0400 Message-Id: <19970416181855.55604@ct.picker.com> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 18:18:55 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Amancio Hasty Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bt848 Missing frames fix References: <199704051942.LAA00322@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199704051942.LAA00322@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Sat, Apr 05, 1997 at 11:42:25AM -0800 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amancio Hasty: |I managed to solved the problem of frames dropping with resolutions |higher than 320x240. | |The patch is against the bt848 driver in freebsd 3.0 -current. Please |try it out and let us know if it fixes the problem. (Just now getting back to this) This works well for me. Beating on it pretty hard, I couldn't get it to miss fields on even one frame, any size capture. Thanks, Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Apr 16 17:18:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA12381 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:18:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12362 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:18:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA00426; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:18:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704170018.RAA00426@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Randall Hopper cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bt848 Missing frames fix In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 16 Apr 1997 18:18:55 EDT." <19970416181855.55604@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:18:36 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Cool, Great, so lets see what is going to take to commit the patch. If no else wants to commit anything to the bt848 driver after we manage to commit this last patch then this constitute Bt848 driver version 1.0 . As for general driver stability I use the driver here every day must say to watch TV 8) Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Randall Hopper : > Amancio Hasty: > |I managed to solved the problem of frames dropping with resolutions > |higher than 320x240. > | > |The patch is against the bt848 driver in freebsd 3.0 -current. Please > |try it out and let us know if it fixes the problem. > > (Just now getting back to this) > > This works well for me. Beating on it pretty hard, I couldn't get it to > miss fields on even one frame, any size capture. > > Thanks, > > Randall > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Apr 16 17:31:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA16829 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:31:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16807 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA00609; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:31:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704170031.RAA00609@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Randall Hopper cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fxtv 0.4 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:38:28 EDT." <19970416173828.02068@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:31:35 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Most cool. Works like a charm over here. When moving the window around, can you freeze the last shown frame so that we don't get a black window. We have to get you clipping support and then you will be all set. So for version 1.x we will add clipping and arbiratry support for different orders of pixels RGB vs BGR etc.. An experimental version of the driver has some primitive clipping so that functionality seems to work with the bt848. Enjoy, Amancio >From The Desk Of Randall Hopper : > Just uploaded Fxtv 0.4 up at http://multiverse.com/~rhh/fxtv. > > This version adds the action routines a few folks have asked for, so you > can now bind channel, volume, tuner input, mute, etc. to the keys or mouse > buttons of your choice. This version also uses the XFree Video Mode > extension (the part of it that's working anyway :-) to support auto > mode-switching down to 640x480 when you zoom the video. > > The ChangeLog's attached below. I've been pretty busy with other things > the last few weeks, so only a couple things that are new. > > Randall > > > Changes from 0.3.2-0.4 > ---------------------- > - Allow hypenated ranges in channelList setting (e.g. 3-30) > - Extended detection of pixel geometry and DirectVideo support > - Should fix BGR cards until native driver support added > - Prep work for driver pixel geometry support additions > - Support separate channel lists for antenna and cable > - New Xt Action routines (see sample Fxtv app-default file): > - TVToggleZoom( [window|fullscreen] ) - zoom/unzoom the video window > - TVSetChannel( [chan|+-inc] ) - set channel, abs or relative to current > - TVSetVolume( [vol|+-inc] ) - set volume percentage, abs or relative > - TVToggleMute() - mute/unmute audio > - TVSetCaptureInput( [tuner|video|svhs|+-inc] - chg capture input, abs/rel > - TVSetTunerMode ( [antenna|cable|+-inc] - chg tuner mode, abs/rel > - baseTranslations set on videoWin to use action routines > - Support mode (res) switch down when video window zoomed (fullscreen) > - Viewport and SwitchToMode calls commented until XFree bugs fixed > - Types renamed to avoid conflicts with Xwd.h > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Apr 16 17:39:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA19733 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:39:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA19724 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:39:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:38:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07128; Wed, 16 Apr 97 20:38:50 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA19146; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:38:39 -0400 Message-Id: <19970416203838.49588@ct.picker.com> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:38:38 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Amancio Hasty Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bt848 Missing frames fix References: <19970416181855.55604@ct.picker.com> <199704170018.RAA00426@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199704170018.RAA00426@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Wed, Apr 16, 1997 at 05:18:36PM -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amancio Hasty: |As for general driver stability I use the driver here every day must |say to watch TV 8) Speaking of stability, that was actually going to be my next question. Over the past few days, I've noticed 3 or 4 times when I'm typing around in my XTerm with the TV going, I'll see a bit of font corruption in the text that's being refreshed at that time and less than a second later, the X server and system is completely locked. Ctrl-Bksp, Ctrl-Alt-Del, mouse, all locked -- though the video keeps right on cooking, and the video card keeps right on blasting the updated video. So the Wincast card, video refresh, and PCI-to-PCI DMA sure isn't dead, but the X server (at least) seems to be. Is just leaving the console open, trying to keep it in the viewport of my desktop, and hoping for some useful messages will appear the best course? Or is there some other option I might try that might stand a shot of triggering a fault or kernel panic -- generating some useful core dump -- that I can try. Any way to hard-wire a key to panic the kernel? Any other suggestions for tracking this? Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Apr 16 17:50:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA22156 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:50:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA22150 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:50:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA00859; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704170048.RAA00859@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Randall Hopper cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bt848 Missing frames fix In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:38:38 EDT." <19970416203838.49588@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:48:42 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You have to get hold of a second system and try to telnet to your box or make the serial port your console so you can debug the kernel remote. I have seen instances in Win95 when the machine is trashed yet the video still comes in. Have not seen such problem in FreeBSD. Will try to reproduce the problem over here . Any hints on how to trigger the situation is most welcome. Amancio >From The Desk Of Randall Hopper : > Amancio Hasty: > |As for general driver stability I use the driver here every day must > |say to watch TV 8) > > Speaking of stability, that was actually going to be my next question. > Over the past few days, I've noticed 3 or 4 times when I'm typing around in > my XTerm with the TV going, I'll see a bit of font corruption in the text > that's being refreshed at that time and less than a second later, the X > server and system is completely locked. Ctrl-Bksp, Ctrl-Alt-Del, mouse, > all locked -- though the video keeps right on cooking, and the video card > keeps right on blasting the updated video. So the Wincast card, video > refresh, and PCI-to-PCI DMA sure isn't dead, but the X server (at least) > seems to be. > > Is just leaving the console open, trying to keep it in the viewport of my > desktop, and hoping for some useful messages will appear the best course? > Or is there some other option I might try that might stand a shot of > triggering a fault or kernel panic -- generating some useful core dump -- > that I can try. > > Any way to hard-wire a key to panic the kernel? Any other suggestions for > tracking this? > > Randall > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Apr 16 18:03:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA26508 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 18:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA26485 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 18:03:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA02274; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 18:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704170103.SAA02274@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Randall Hopper cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bt848 Missing frames fix In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:38:38 EDT." <19970416203838.49588@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 18:03:34 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hmm.... It will help if others report the problem that Randall is experiencing. Got TV going over here, compiling the kerenel, typing this note and not a hitch. Tnks, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Apr 16 18:41:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA28510 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 18:41:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA28498 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 18:41:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA02555; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 18:41:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704170141.SAA02555@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Randall Hopper cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bt848 Missing frames fix In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:38:38 EDT." <19970416203838.49588@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 18:41:12 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Do you use scsi or IDE disk drives? Tnks, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Apr 16 19:41:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA01327 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 19:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA01319 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 19:41:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 22:39:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09000; Wed, 16 Apr 97 22:39:52 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA19463; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 22:39:42 -0400 Message-Id: <19970416223941.29306@ct.picker.com> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 22:39:41 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Amancio Hasty , Steve Passe Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bt848 Missing frames fix References: <19970416203838.49588@ct.picker.com> <199704170141.SAA02555@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199704170141.SAA02555@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Wed, Apr 16, 1997 at 06:41:12PM -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thanks for the debugging tips. I haven't nailed down a pattern yet other than the few times its occurred, I think I've been typing in a remote login (ssh actually, connected to a machine over a slip connection). No big fly-by text transfers going on so this piece wasn't heavy on the interrupts. fxtv at the time is up with continuous display on at its default NTSC size of 320x240. VMode is 555 weight 16bpp, so its DMAing to the frame buffer; no CPU color conversion load. S3Virge driver, XFree 3.2A. Yes, I am running IDE hard drives off an on-motherboard PCI IDE controller, so that can under some circumstances give higher interrupt latency, but when the problem occurs, I'm not doing anything to access the disks, so I doubt that's a factor. Also, my dial-up link is serial, but I'm not doing anything but typing so my 16550 UARTs probably aren't even kicking in much less generating but a few interrupts per second. I don't know what of this info, if anything, is relevent to producing the problem because I can kick of fxtv, kick of a "find /" in a local window, and the same in the remote login window, simultaneously--try to beat the death out of the system--and I see absolutely no problem. I'll keep an eye out for other clues. Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Apr 16 19:44:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA01487 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 19:44:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA01482 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 19:44:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA09974; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 22:44:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199704170244.WAA09974@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Randall Hopper cc: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@freebsd.org From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: Bt848 Missing frames fix References: <19970416181855.55604@ct.picker.com> <199704170018.RAA00426@rah.star-gate.com> <19970416203838.49588@ct.picker.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:38:38 EDT." <19970416203838.49588@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 22:44:37 -0400 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've also noticed the occasional case where the system seems to lock up pretty tight. In my case, it seems to be related to having fxtv's view window resized to something between the default "small" size, and full size and having a marginal input signal. It might be related to occasional loss-of-sync sort of provocation, but its not real clear. In my case, I don't recall still seeing live pictures on the display, but the box hasn't reset; I'm still hearing the audio through the soundcard mixer. Also, as I've mentioned to Randall, I think that the even/odd fields are interchanged. Someone else mentioned this before, and it seems noticable if you look at text and graphical objects on the tv broadcast. I recall looking at this a little while ago, and I thought that the way the RISC program were being built had the wrong field (even or odd?) starting off in the memory buffer. Is it just me, or is anyone else noticing this? louie From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Apr 16 20:19:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA02876 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:19:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA02871 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:19:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 23:18:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09555; Wed, 16 Apr 97 23:18:20 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA19663; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 23:18:08 -0400 Message-Id: <19970416231807.09430@ct.picker.com> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 23:18:07 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: "Louis A. Mamakos" Cc: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bt848 Missing frames fix References: <19970416181855.55604@ct.picker.com> <199704170018.RAA00426@rah.star-gate.com> <19970416203838.49588@ct.picker.com> <199704170244.WAA09974@whizzo.transsys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199704170244.WAA09974@whizzo.transsys.com>; from Louis A. Mamakos on Wed, Apr 16, 1997 at 10:44:37PM -0400 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Louis A. Mamakos: |Also, as I've mentioned to Randall, I think that the even/odd fields are |interchanged. Someone else mentioned this before, and it seems |noticable if you look at text and graphical objects on the tv broadcast. |I recall looking at this a little while ago, and I thought that the |way the RISC program were being built had the wrong field (even or odd?) |starting off in the memory buffer. Is it just me, or is anyone else |noticing this? Just mailed Louie regarding this in another off-line thread we're on, but this is likely because fxtv isn't switching down to one field only when capture rows is <= CIF (240 for NTSC), so it's blasting both the odd and even frames right on top of each other 30 times a second. Can create some interesting aliasing artifacts but it does yield a more fluid video window. To add in this behavior for experimentation, edit tvcapture.c, search down for ODD, and uncomment that if statement. It's in there; just disabled. Maybe that should be the default (?) Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Apr 16 20:27:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA03286 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA03281 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA15793; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:27:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:27:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White X-Sender: dwhite@localhost Reply-To: Doug White To: "Louis A. Mamakos" cc: Randall Hopper , Amancio Hasty , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bt848 Missing frames fix In-Reply-To: <199704170244.WAA09974@whizzo.transsys.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, Louis A. Mamakos wrote: > I've also noticed the occasional case where the system seems to lock > up pretty tight. I haven't been able to convince my system to lock up ever when using the bt. P133, ASUS T2P4, PCI IDE, SCSI, Ethernet, 40mb RAM, Mach64, WinCast. Still haven't gotten 24 bit color working right -- I'll send our notes out later. > In my case, it seems to be related to having fxtv's view window resized > to something between the default "small" size, and full size and having > a marginal input signal. It might be related to occasional loss-of-sync > sort of provocation, but its not real clear. In my case, I don't recall > still seeing live pictures on the display, but the box hasn't reset; I'm > still hearing the audio through the soundcard mixer. I know that bouncing the signal around (ie rapidly changing channels) will sometimes cause the tv to freeze, but changing it again resets it all. (I did this for the first time yesterday, changing channels a bit faster than my real televisions can do it!) > Also, as I've mentioned to Randall, I think that the even/odd fields are > interchanged. Someone else mentioned this before, and it seems > noticable if you look at text and graphical objects on the tv broadcast. > I recall looking at this a little while ago, and I thought that the > way the RISC program were being built had the wrong field (even or odd?) > starting off in the memory buffer. Is it just me, or is anyone else > noticing this? That was me, I think. I suppose we could swap the even/odd reads and see if the image looks any different. I can check it by clicking over to the Weather Channel or watching ESPN or any matter of channels with lots of graphics. Oh, don't look at ME to do that. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Apr 16 20:49:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA04401 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:49:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA04395 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA00297; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:48:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704170348.UAA00297@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Doug White cc: "Louis A. Mamakos" , Randall Hopper , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bt848 Missing frames fix In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:27:02 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:48:58 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Doug White : > On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, Louis A. Mamakos wrote: > That was me, I think. I suppose we could swap the even/odd reads and see > if the image looks any different. I can check it by clicking over to the > Weather Channel or watching ESPN or any matter of channels with lots of > graphics. Oh, don't look at ME to do that. Don't worry I did it over here and I didn't see any difference. If anyone is interested in trying it out just look in bt848.c:rgb_prog. target_buffer is initialized to the start of the field. To start in an odd line set : target_buffer = buffer + pitch; To start in an even line: target_buffer = buffer; I think what folks are seeing is aliasing effects. Enjoy, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Apr 16 22:43:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA09854 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 22:43:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from INET-01-IMC.microsoft.com (mail1.microsoft.com [131.107.3.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA09846 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 22:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail1.microsoft.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.14) id ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 22:42:20 -0700 Message-ID: <88CE23A0B727D0118BB000805FD4752401606328@RED-81-MSG.dns.microsoft.com> From: Thomas Pfenning To: "Louis A. Mamakos" , Randall Hopper Cc: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Bt848 Missing frames fix Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 22:28:15 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.14) Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I think you are right. It manifests itself in highly visible steps on sloped lines. However, I only see this at 24bit color depth. At 15 bit everything looks okay. Cheers Thomas > -----Original Message----- > From: Louis A. Mamakos [SMTP:louie@TransSys.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 1997 7:45 PM > To: Randall Hopper > Cc: Amancio Hasty; multimedia@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Bt848 Missing frames fix > > I've also noticed the occasional case where the system seems to lock > up pretty tight. > > In my case, it seems to be related to having fxtv's view window > resized > to something between the default "small" size, and full size and > having > a marginal input signal. It might be related to occasional > loss-of-sync > sort of provocation, but its not real clear. In my case, I don't > recall > still seeing live pictures on the display, but the box hasn't reset; > I'm > still hearing the audio through the soundcard mixer. > > Also, as I've mentioned to Randall, I think that the even/odd fields > are > interchanged. Someone else mentioned this before, and it seems > noticable if you look at text and graphical objects on the tv > broadcast. > I recall looking at this a little while ago, and I thought that the > way the RISC program were being built had the wrong field (even or > odd?) > starting off in the memory buffer. Is it just me, or is anyone else > noticing this? > > louie > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Apr 16 23:01:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA10844 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 23:01:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA10838 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 23:01:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA11282; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 23:01:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 23:01:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White X-Sender: dwhite@localhost Reply-To: Doug White To: Randall Hopper cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fxtv 0.4 In-Reply-To: <19970416173828.02068@ct.picker.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 16 Apr 1997, Randall Hopper wrote: > Just uploaded Fxtv 0.4 up at http://multiverse.com/~rhh/fxtv. Wow, I got it not too soon after it was released! :) > This version adds the action routines a few folks have asked for, so you > can now bind channel, volume, tuner input, mute, etc. to the keys or mouse > buttons of your choice. This version also uses the XFree Video Mode > extension (the part of it that's working anyway :-) to support auto > mode-switching down to 640x480 when you zoom the video. I like it! The video mode switch is quite useful. Not seamless, but this sort of thing isn't anyway. > - Extended detection of pixel geometry and DirectVideo support > - Should fix BGR cards until native driver support added The newest version of the driver breaks my system worse than it already was. :( You can look at what I get out from a screenshot at http://gdi.uoregon.edu/redscreen.gif. It looks like the gamma correction is off in the RGB_24 case. It says it's falling back to Ximage, btw. Why are the color_ctl flags _forced_ to the settings with = and not |= in rgb_prog? I'm probably asking the wrong person, so this is to the list... Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Apr 16 23:12:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA11395 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 23:12:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA11387 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 23:12:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA01378; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 23:11:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704170611.XAA01378@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Thomas Pfenning cc: "Louis A. Mamakos" , Randall Hopper , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bt848 Missing frames fix In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 16 Apr 1997 22:28:15 PDT." <88CE23A0B727D0118BB000805FD4752401606328@RED-81-MSG.dns.microsoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 23:11:56 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Doc, Care to tell us how does the Bt848 look in Win9x or NT? That is when you get a chance. Or for that matter anyone out there running Win95 can also volunteer the Win95 info. Tnks, Amancio >From The Desk Of Thomas Pfenning : > I think you are right. It manifests itself in highly visible steps on > sloped lines. However, I only see this at 24bit color depth. At 15 bit > everything looks okay. > > Cheers > > Thomas > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Louis A. Mamakos [SMTP:louie@TransSys.COM] > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 1997 7:45 PM > > To: Randall Hopper > > Cc: Amancio Hasty; multimedia@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: Bt848 Missing frames fix > > > > I've also noticed the occasional case where the system seems to lock > > up pretty tight. > > > > In my case, it seems to be related to having fxtv's view window > > resized > > to something between the default "small" size, and full size and > > having > > a marginal input signal. It might be related to occasional > > loss-of-sync > > sort of provocation, but its not real clear. In my case, I don't > > recall > > still seeing live pictures on the display, but the box hasn't reset; > > I'm > > still hearing the audio through the soundcard mixer. > > > > Also, as I've mentioned to Randall, I think that the even/odd fields > > are > > interchanged. Someone else mentioned this before, and it seems > > noticable if you look at text and graphical objects on the tv > > broadcast. > > I recall looking at this a little while ago, and I thought that the > > way the RISC program were being built had the wrong field (even or > > odd?) > > starting off in the memory buffer. Is it just me, or is anyone else > > noticing this? > > > > louie > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Apr 16 23:29:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA12235 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 23:29:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from INET-01-IMC.microsoft.com (mail1.microsoft.com [131.107.3.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA12229 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 23:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail1.microsoft.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.14) id ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 23:28:31 -0700 Message-ID: <88CE23A0B727D0118BB000805FD4752401606334@RED-81-MSG.dns.microsoft.com> From: Thomas Pfenning To: Amancio Hasty Cc: "Louis A. Mamakos" , Randall Hopper , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Bt848 Missing frames fix Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 23:20:53 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.14) Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Will do tomorrow. I formatted my NTFS disk today after loosing a few hours trying to install the WDM driver on the NT5 beta. Even with all necessary files (;-)) I could not get it to work. Tomorrow and the following days will try the vidcap driver for Win95 and the WDM driver for Memphis. I will let you know how it goes. For now I can say that the Meteor driver does not show these steps on FreeBSD. Cheers Thomas > -----Original Message----- > From: Amancio Hasty [SMTP:hasty@rah.star-gate.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 1997 11:12 PM > To: Thomas Pfenning > Cc: Louis A. Mamakos; Randall Hopper; multimedia@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Bt848 Missing frames fix > > > Hi Doc, > > Care to tell us how does the Bt848 look in Win9x or NT? > That is when you get a chance. > Or for that matter anyone out there running Win95 can also volunteer > the Win95 info. > > > Tnks, > Amancio > > From The Desk Of Thomas Pfenning : > > I think you are right. It manifests itself in highly visible steps > on > > sloped lines. However, I only see this at 24bit color depth. At 15 > bit > > everything looks okay. > > > > Cheers > > > > Thomas > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Louis A. Mamakos [SMTP:louie@TransSys.COM] > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 1997 7:45 PM > > > To: Randall Hopper > > > Cc: Amancio Hasty; multimedia@freebsd.org > > > Subject: Re: Bt848 Missing frames fix > > > > > > I've also noticed the occasional case where the system seems to > lock > > > up pretty tight. > > > > > > In my case, it seems to be related to having fxtv's view window > > > resized > > > to something between the default "small" size, and full size and > > > having > > > a marginal input signal. It might be related to occasional > > > loss-of-sync > > > sort of provocation, but its not real clear. In my case, I don't > > > recall > > > still seeing live pictures on the display, but the box hasn't > reset; > > > I'm > > > still hearing the audio through the soundcard mixer. > > > > > > Also, as I've mentioned to Randall, I think that the even/odd > fields > > > are > > > interchanged. Someone else mentioned this before, and it seems > > > noticable if you look at text and graphical objects on the tv > > > broadcast. > > > I recall looking at this a little while ago, and I thought that > the > > > way the RISC program were being built had the wrong field (even or > > > odd?) > > > starting off in the memory buffer. Is it just me, or is anyone > else > > > noticing this? > > > > > > louie > > > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Apr 16 23:39:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA12970 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 23:39:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA12965 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 23:39:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA01583; Wed, 16 Apr 1997 23:39:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704170639.XAA01583@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Thomas Pfenning cc: "Louis A. Mamakos" , Randall Hopper , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bt848 Missing frames fix In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 16 Apr 1997 23:20:53 PDT." <88CE23A0B727D0118BB000805FD4752401606334@RED-81-MSG.dns.microsoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 23:39:49 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Okay, I will try to find out whats up with the Bt848 however I can say that the output of the B848 is supposed to be better than the Meteor. Part of my problem is that I really do use the Bt848 every day here so I guess I am sort of to close to it to see what you guys are claiming which I don't doubt. Been playing a little with fxtv-0.4 and is really nice -- next version I hope that I can type in the channels --- something like : 03 . Useful when I running fxtv full screen . The other keyboard feature which I would like is freeze frame Maybe assigned to numeric keypad "/" so with "+" and "-" I can scan quickly and then freeze something that I may like. The "-" and "+" is great for surfing 8) Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Thomas Pfenning : > Will do tomorrow. I formatted my NTFS disk today after loosing a few > hours trying to install the WDM driver on the NT5 beta. Even with all > necessary files (;-)) I could not get it to work. Tomorrow and the > following days will try the vidcap driver for Win95 and the WDM driver > for Memphis. > > I will let you know how it goes. For now I can say that the Meteor > driver does not show these steps on FreeBSD. > > Cheers > > Thomas > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Amancio Hasty [SMTP:hasty@rah.star-gate.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 1997 11:12 PM > > To: Thomas Pfenning > > Cc: Louis A. Mamakos; Randall Hopper; multimedia@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: Bt848 Missing frames fix > > > > > > Hi Doc, > > > > Care to tell us how does the Bt848 look in Win9x or NT? > > That is when you get a chance. > > Or for that matter anyone out there running Win95 can also volunteer > > the Win95 info. > > > > > > Tnks, > > Amancio > > > > From The Desk Of Thomas Pfenning : > > > I think you are right. It manifests itself in highly visible steps > > on > > > sloped lines. However, I only see this at 24bit color depth. At 15 > > bit > > > everything looks okay. > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Thomas > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Louis A. Mamakos [SMTP:louie@TransSys.COM] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 1997 7:45 PM > > > > To: Randall Hopper > > > > Cc: Amancio Hasty; multimedia@freebsd.org > > > > Subject: Re: Bt848 Missing frames fix > > > > > > > > I've also noticed the occasional case where the system seems to > > lock > > > > up pretty tight. > > > > > > > > In my case, it seems to be related to having fxtv's view window > > > > resized > > > > to something between the default "small" size, and full size and > > > > having > > > > a marginal input signal. It might be related to occasional > > > > loss-of-sync > > > > sort of provocation, but its not real clear. In my case, I don't > > > > recall > > > > still seeing live pictures on the display, but the box hasn't > > reset; > > > > I'm > > > > still hearing the audio through the soundcard mixer. > > > > > > > > Also, as I've mentioned to Randall, I think that the even/odd > > fields > > > > are > > > > interchanged. Someone else mentioned this before, and it seems > > > > noticable if you look at text and graphical objects on the tv > > > > broadcast. > > > > I recall looking at this a little while ago, and I thought that > > the > > > > way the RISC program were being built had the wrong field (even or > > > > odd?) > > > > starting off in the memory buffer. Is it just me, or is anyone > > else > > > > noticing this? > > > > > > > > louie > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 17 00:25:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA15867 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 00:25:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA15849 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 00:25:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA00325; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 00:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704170725.AAA00325@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Doug White cc: Randall Hopper , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fxtv 0.4 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 16 Apr 1997 23:01:04 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 00:25:20 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Doug White : > The newest version of the driver breaks my system worse than it already > was. :( You can look at what I get out from a screenshot at If I am not mistaken you need to modify the driver to work in your case. remember the mods that you did to the driver?? > http://gdi.uoregon.edu/redscreen.gif. It looks like the gamma correction > is off in the RGB_24 case. It says it's falling back to Ximage, btw. > > Why are the color_ctl flags _forced_ to the settings with = and not |= in > rgb_prog? I'm probably asking the wrong person, so this is to the list... It doesn't matter for now because we are not doing byte or word swapping. In the same routine there is this comment: /* FIXME: why set colorbars for 1 instant ??? */ bt848->color_ctl = BT848_COLOR_CTL_COLOR_BARS; /* FIXME: undone 4 lines later, why bother ??? */ bt848->color_ctl = BT848_COLOR_CTL_GAMMA; Careful here because some of this stuff was written after I read Brooktree's DOS demo. Some of these chipsets are cranky and yes we can experiment by taking the lines out. I am going to go thru the driver and examine each FIXME comment. Regards, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 17 00:41:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA16725 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 00:41:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA16720 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 00:41:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA00474 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 00:41:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704170741.AAA00474@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: comments on my side of the driver. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 00:41:06 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Guess this is for Steve, I answered the FIXME requests so if you like please take a look at ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/brooktre-comment Tnks! Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 17 00:56:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA17656 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 00:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA17648 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 00:56:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA00666; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 00:56:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704170756.AAA00666@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Randall Hopper cc: Steve Passe , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bt848 Missing frames fix In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 16 Apr 1997 22:39:41 EDT." <19970416223941.29306@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 00:56:21 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Randall Hopper : > I don't know what of this info, if anything, is relevent to producing the > problem because I can kick of fxtv, kick of a "find /" in a local window, > and the same in the remote login window, simultaneously--try to beat the > death out of the system--and I see absolutely no problem. > > I'll keep an eye out for other clues. > Tnks for the info it does "sound" like your PCI went crazy at least from the description of the problem. Not sure how to tackle this problem cause I can't reproduce over here and there is no programming info such a panic or any system error messages so it is kind of tough to solve this problem specially if it occurs infrequently. fxtv, tv. nor dtv have crash my system in months -- well at least not due to something that I did at the driver level. Curious is anyone with a PPRO experiencing any crashes with the Bt848 driver? Regards, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 17 07:02:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA02692 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 07:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA02687 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 07:02:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA01761; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 10:01:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199704171401.KAA01761@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Doug White cc: Randall Hopper , Amancio Hasty , multimedia@freebsd.org From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: Bt848 Missing frames fix References: In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 16 Apr 1997 20:27:02 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 10:01:51 -0400 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I haven't been able to convince my system to lock up ever when using the > bt. P133, ASUS T2P4, PCI IDE, SCSI, Ethernet, 40mb RAM, Mach64, WinCast. > Still haven't gotten 24 bit color working right -- I'll send our notes out > later. In my case, I've running a Tyan Titan-III MB, Pentium 133, with the Wincast TV/dbx, Symbios 53C825 SCSI, #9 Motion 771 4MB video, PCI ethernet with a DEC 21040. The system's got 64MB of memory and 512K cache. I had another hang last night - this one occured sometime after I resized the fxtv window to an intermediate size and after it had been dragged around on the screen. The next time this happens, I'll see if I can get back into the box over the ethernet from another machine at the house. The even/odd fields thing is not (as) noticable when the capture window is increased up to maximum size. I'll stare at it some more, but I think that I'm willing to believe I've been seeing artifacts. louie From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 17 10:00:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA20999 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 10:00:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (Ilsa.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20987 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 10:00:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21089; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 11:00:16 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199704171700.LAA21089@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 From: Steve Passe To: Amancio Hasty cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fxtv 0.4 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 17 Apr 1997 00:25:20 PDT." <199704170725.AAA00325@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 11:00:16 -0600 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, >In the same routine there is this comment: > >/* FIXME: why set colorbars for 1 instant ??? */ > bt848->color_ctl = BT848_COLOR_CTL_COLOR_BARS; >/* FIXME: undone 4 lines later, why bother ??? */ > bt848->color_ctl = BT848_COLOR_CTL_GAMMA; > >Careful here because some of this stuff was written after I read >Brooktree's DOS demo. Some of these chipsets are cranky and yes >we can experiment by taking the lines out. the "FIXME" protocal is mine, while doing my cleanup passes I added those lines wherever I saw something that needed attention. In many cases it may be that the code is valid, but that it is something arcane (cranky chipset really wants that bit set for no apparrent reason!) so in this case the "FIX" would be a comment that explains why its there. This way someone like me can come along and not wonder "what the h*** is that there for???". Remember that this driver will have a long lifetime, and people may be dealing it long after we're not available/have forgotten ourselves the little details. -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 17 10:20:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA22507 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 10:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (Ilsa.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22417 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 10:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21143; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 11:19:38 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199704171719.LAA21143@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 From: Steve Passe To: "Louis A. Mamakos" cc: Doug White , Randall Hopper , Amancio Hasty , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bt848 Missing frames fix In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 17 Apr 1997 10:01:51 EDT." <199704171401.KAA01761@whizzo.transsys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 11:19:38 -0600 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > I had another hang last night - this one occured sometime after I resized > the fxtv window to an intermediate size and after it had been dragged > around on the screen. The next time this happens, I'll see if I can get > back into the box over the ethernet from another machine at the house. I just moved my tv card from a gigabyte MB to an asus MB and had it hang very easily shortly after starting fxvt. To make it happy I had to change 3 settings in the BIOS: PCI streaming: OFF video BIOS cache: OFF vga/pci pallette snoop: OFF with these settings it has run for 3 days straight without hang. I tried different combinations of the above but with any 1 or more of them enabled it hung within several seconds to several minutes after starting fxtv. this is with: asus p55t2p4 P5-133 diamond stealth 3400 VRAM hauyppauge wincast/tv dbx ahc2940/micropolis SCSI smc 8013 ethercard boca 1008 FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE #0: Mon Apr 14 12:02:32 MDT 1997 CPU: Pentium (132.95-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping=12 Features=0x1bf real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) avail memory = 30236672 (29528K bytes) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0 rev 1 on pci0:0 chip1 rev 0 on pci0:7:0 chip2 rev 0 on pci0:7:1 bktr0 rev 17 int a irq 14 on pci0:9 Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Philips NTSC tuner, dbx stereo. vga0 rev 0 int a irq 14 on pci0:10 ahc0 rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:12 ... ed0 at 0x280-0x29f irq 5 maddr 0xd8000 msize 16384 on isa ed0: address 00:00:c0:e6:59:48, type WD8013EPC (16 bit) -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 17 13:20:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA02342 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 13:20:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02335 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 13:20:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA00528; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 13:20:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704172020.NAA00528@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Steve Passe cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fxtv 0.4 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 17 Apr 1997 11:00:16 MDT." <199704171700.LAA21089@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 13:20:42 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Steve, Good point, for sure the code needs a little bit more comments. All in all I am very happy with the way that the driver has turned out. >From The Desk Of Steve Passe : > Hi, > > >In the same routine there is this comment: > > > >/* FIXME: why set colorbars for 1 instant ??? */ > > bt848->color_ctl = BT848_COLOR_CTL_COLOR_BARS; > >/* FIXME: undone 4 lines later, why bother ??? */ > > bt848->color_ctl = BT848_COLOR_CTL_GAMMA; > > > >Careful here because some of this stuff was written after I read > >Brooktree's DOS demo. Some of these chipsets are cranky and yes > >we can experiment by taking the lines out. > > the "FIXME" protocal is mine, while doing my cleanup passes I added those > lines wherever I saw something that needed attention. In many cases > it may be that the code is valid, but that it is something arcane > (cranky chipset really wants that bit set for no apparrent reason!) Oh Steve, some of this PC chipset manufacturers don't do a good job at quality assurance and whenever they can they have soft work arounds over hardware fixes. Chips like the Bt848 are complicated and is not feasible to fully test the chip. > so in this case the "FIX" would be a comment that explains why its there. > This way someone like me can come along and not wonder "what the h*** is that > there for???". Remember that this driver will have a long lifetime, and peop le > may be dealing it long after we're not available/have forgotten ourselves > the little details. Point well taken... Regards, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 17 14:13:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA06243 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 14:13:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA06233 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 14:13:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA00993; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 14:13:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704172113.OAA00993@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Steve Passe cc: "Louis A. Mamakos" , Doug White , Randall Hopper , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bt848 Missing frames fix In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 17 Apr 1997 11:19:38 MDT." <199704171719.LAA21143@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 14:13:20 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Steve Passe : > Hi, > > > I had another hang last night - this one occured sometime after I resized > > the fxtv window to an intermediate size and after it had been dragged > > around on the screen. The next time this happens, I'll see if I can get > > back into the box over the ethernet from another machine at the house. > > I just moved my tv card from a gigabyte MB to an asus MB and had it > hang very easily shortly after starting fxvt. To make it happy I had to chan ge > 3 settings in the BIOS: > > PCI streaming: OFF > video BIOS cache: OFF > vga/pci pallette snoop: OFF Most cool info!! Can you uncomment printing the status register in bktr_intr and tell us if anything unusual is being printed . One thing that I can think off is that the Bt848 is getting stuck doing retrys. Tnks, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 17 14:17:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA06550 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 14:17:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA06543 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 14:17:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 17:16:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08241; Thu, 17 Apr 97 17:16:35 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA01803; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 17:16:24 -0400 Message-Id: <19970417171623.21430@ct.picker.com> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 17:16:23 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Amancio Hasty Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fxtv 0.4 References: <19970416173828.02068@ct.picker.com> <199704170031.RAA00609@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199704170031.RAA00609@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Wed, Apr 16, 1997 at 05:31:35PM -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amancio Hasty: |Most cool. Works like a charm over here. |When moving the window around, can you freeze the last shown frame |so that we don't get a black window. Sounds like a good idea, but first let me get you to try something to see if its easily done: 1) Freeze frame once 2) Turn continuous back on 3) Then move the window while the video is running If you see the last freeze frame in the video window while you're moving, should be an easy fix. That is, the window manager would seem to be blasting refresh events at the window while its configuring. Which window manager are you using and how do you have your move policy configured (I'm assuming you've got opaque moves turned on)? Also, do you have any window manager whiz-bangs pop up on top of fxtv when you're moving/resizing it that can change visibility (e.g. the "window position-queue pop-up"). With fvwm2 outline moves on a direct-video fxtv work fine because the configure doesn't come in until after the drag and release. With opaque moves on fvwm2 though, fxtv leaves some pixel trash in its wake because continuous reconfigures are being sent and the video is just rolling away, moving a little with each Configure event -- its on my list of things to look at fixing. |We have to get you clipping support and then you will be all set. | |So for version 1.x we will add clipping and arbiratry support for |different orders of pixels RGB vs BGR etc.. | |An experimental version of the driver has some primitive clipping so |that functionality seems to work with the bt848. Sounds cool! Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 17 14:36:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA07730 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 14:36:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA07725 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 14:36:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 17:35:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08561; Thu, 17 Apr 97 17:35:48 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA01836; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 17:35:36 -0400 Message-Id: <19970417173536.21060@ct.picker.com> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 17:35:36 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Doug White Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fxtv 0.4 References: <19970416173828.02068@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: ; from Doug White on Wed, Apr 16, 1997 at 11:01:04PM -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Doug White: |> - Extended detection of pixel geometry and DirectVideo support |> - Should fix BGR cards until native driver support added | |The newest version of the driver breaks my system worse than it already |was. :( You can look at what I get out from a screenshot at Oops, sorry 'bout that. |http://gdi.uoregon.edu/redscreen.gif. It looks like the gamma correction |is off in the RGB_24 case. It says it's falling back to Ximage, btw. Could you check your HTTP daemon or your firewall config? I can get a to the telnet login on your box, but the HTTP daemon hasn't been answering today. telnet to port 80 and 8080 just give me connection refused. BTW, the XImage stuff is fine. Since the driver doesn't support 32bpp 8-8-8 BGR DMA transfers yet, fxtv is just telling you it can't tell the driver to DMA straight to the video card, so it's going to drop-back and capture to memory first, swap the pixel bits using the CPU, and then pop that onto the video window using ximages. Please let me know what you're seeing for freeze frame and continuous and I'll work on ironing things out. Randy From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 17 15:15:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA09899 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:15:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09894 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:15:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA12635; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:15:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White X-Sender: dwhite@localhost Reply-To: Doug White To: Steve Passe cc: "Louis A. Mamakos" , Randall Hopper , Amancio Hasty , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bt848 Missing frames fix In-Reply-To: <199704171719.LAA21143@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, Steve Passe wrote: > I just moved my tv card from a gigabyte MB to an asus MB and had it > hang very easily shortly after starting fxvt. To make it happy I had to change > 3 settings in the BIOS: > > PCI streaming: OFF > video BIOS cache: OFF > vga/pci pallette snoop: OFF > > with these settings it has run for 3 days straight without hang. I wonder if your video card and/or 2940 are confusing it. I have basically exactly the same setup as you, with a Mach64 GX and ncr 815, have those options enabled, and it works fine. To overload the busmastering even more, I have a dc21040 ethercard too, so I doubt it's on the MB itself. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 17 15:27:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA10528 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:27:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA10520 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:26:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA12657; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:26:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:26:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White X-Sender: dwhite@localhost Reply-To: Doug White To: Amancio Hasty cc: Randall Hopper , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fxtv 0.4 In-Reply-To: <199704170725.AAA00325@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, Amancio Hasty wrote: > >From The Desk Of Doug White : > > The newest version of the driver breaks my system worse than it already > > was. :( You can look at what I get out from a screenshot at > If I am not mistaken you need to modify the driver to work in your case. > remember the mods that you did to the driver?? > > > > http://gdi.uoregon.edu/redscreen.gif. It looks like the gamma correction > > is off in the RGB_24 case. It says it's falling back to Ximage, btw. > > > > Why are the color_ctl flags _forced_ to the settings with = and not |= in > > rgb_prog? I'm probably asking the wrong person, so this is to the list... > > It doesn't matter for now because we are not doing byte or word swapping. Erm, okay. As I mentioned my video is messed up anyway; I'm not getting smurfs, I'm getting black shapes (ie white<->black inversion) in direct video mode. > In the same routine there is this comment: > > /* FIXME: why set colorbars for 1 instant ??? */ > bt848->color_ctl = BT848_COLOR_CTL_COLOR_BARS; > /* FIXME: undone 4 lines later, why bother ??? */ > bt848->color_ctl = BT848_COLOR_CTL_GAMMA; > > Careful here because some of this stuff was written after I read > Brooktree's DOS demo. Some of these chipsets are cranky and yes > we can experiment by taking the lines out. This sort of assignment is what confused me (and John-Mark Gurney, who does some documentation work and is a committer). We were going to put the changes into the start_(whatever) function, but after further research we found this stuff that basically spammed our changes. So we went into rgb_prog and put the change in after it got done doing assignments. I didn't feel like playing around and seeing what's important and what's not -- I assumed since it was there it was doing some sort of initialization with the card, perhaps playing with it a bit to make sure the card is in a known state. > I am going to go thru the driver and examine each FIXME comment. Cool, thanks. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 17 15:35:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA11366 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:35:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (Ilsa.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.129]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11361 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:35:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA23545; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:35:09 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199704172235.QAA23545@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 From: Steve Passe To: Amancio Hasty cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can you check in this patch? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 17 Apr 1997 13:28:23 PDT." <199704172028.NAA00610@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:35:09 -0600 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Amancio's patch for the problem of vic only capturing an even or odd frame plus the his early patch for missing frames with resolutions higher than 320x240 in rgb mode has been committed to 3.0-current. -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 17 15:37:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA11475 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:37:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11470 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:37:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA12670; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:37:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White X-Sender: dwhite@localhost Reply-To: Doug White To: Randall Hopper cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fxtv 0.4 In-Reply-To: <19970417173536.21060@ct.picker.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, Randall Hopper wrote: > Oops, sorry 'bout that. I shouldn't have said that. 24 bit mode has a new, even odder behavior with the newer committed stuff than previously (march 24-ish). > |http://gdi.uoregon.edu/redscreen.gif. It looks like the gamma correction > |is off in the RGB_24 case. It says it's falling back to Ximage, btw. > > Could you check your HTTP daemon or your firewall config? I can get a to > the telnet login on your box, but the HTTP daemon hasn't been answering > today. telnet to port 80 and 8080 just give me connection refused. Sorry. I was playing around with the driver and forgot the http server doesn't load by default. I'll put it on my other machine instead. Try http://resnet.uoregon.edu/dwhite/redscreen.gif This was using fxtv 0.4. > BTW, the XImage stuff is fine. Since the driver doesn't support 32bpp > 8-8-8 BGR DMA transfers yet, fxtv is just telling you it can't tell the > driver to DMA straight to the video card, so it's going to drop-back and > capture to memory first, swap the pixel bits using the CPU, and then pop > that onto the video window using ximages. The Mach64 is an exception. 24bit == 32bit on it, and the buffer is GBR. How much more off-base can we get? :) > Please let me know what you're seeing for freeze frame and continuous and > I'll work on ironing things out. I'll try to describe the direct video that I get. It's hard since I can't capture it using xv or freezeframe (freezeframe crashes fxtv 0.3.2 in this mode!). It appears that the video has been black/white inverted. Faces are black with highlights that are speckled color. The screen is very dim. Turning the brightness all the way up gives me a black screen. I changed the memory in the machine last week, from 32 (4x8mb) to 40 megs (2x16mb and 2x4mb edo). I don't think that would have anything to do with it, but a data point anyway. I've only got 2mb of vram so I don't run in 24 bit mode, the desktop is too small. Next month, when I have cash, I will probably upgrade the card to 4mb. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 17 15:55:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA12420 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:55:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12406 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:54:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA01932; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:54:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704172254.PAA01932@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Doug White cc: Randall Hopper , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fxtv 0.4 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:26:52 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:54:48 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Doug White : > > This sort of assignment is what confused me (and John-Mark Gurney, who > does some documentation work and is a committer). We were going to put Sorry Doug, I don't buy it . You got enough info so just *doit* don't back off. Have fun, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 17 15:59:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA12735 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:59:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12729 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA01980; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:59:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704172259.PAA01980@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Doug White cc: Steve Passe , "Louis A. Mamakos" , Randall Hopper , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bt848 Missing frames fix In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:15:30 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:59:01 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi folks. Please, when you report that the Bt848 driver freezes your system, include the following: 1. Motherboard 2. Bios chipset setttings : For instance PCI streaming ON/OFF 3. Output of dmesg 4. Program which exhibits the bug and any useful info like it happens when I resize the window, move the cursor around, etc... Tnks, Amancio >From The Desk Of Doug White : > On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, Steve Passe wrote: > > > I just moved my tv card from a gigabyte MB to an asus MB and had it > > hang very easily shortly after starting fxvt. To make it happy I had to ch ange > > 3 settings in the BIOS: > > > > PCI streaming: OFF > > video BIOS cache: OFF > > vga/pci pallette snoop: OFF > > > > with these settings it has run for 3 days straight without hang. > > I wonder if your video card and/or 2940 are confusing it. I have > basically exactly the same setup as you, with a Mach64 GX and ncr 815, > have those options enabled, and it works fine. > > To overload the busmastering even more, I have a dc21040 ethercard too, so > I doubt it's on the MB itself. > > Doug White | University of Oregon > Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 17 15:59:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA12771 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:59:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12762 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA12709; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:59:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:59:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White X-Sender: dwhite@localhost Reply-To: Doug White To: Amancio Hasty cc: Randall Hopper , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fxtv 0.4 In-Reply-To: <199704172254.PAA01932@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > This sort of assignment is what confused me (and John-Mark Gurney, who > > does some documentation work and is a committer). We were going to put > > Sorry Doug, I don't buy it . You got enough info so just *doit* don't > back off. Okay, I'll do what I can. Kernel hacking is not my favorite thing to do. I'll try plugging in some printf()'s and see what I can uncover. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 17 16:04:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA13103 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:04:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA13096 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:04:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA02016; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:04:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704172304.QAA02016@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Steve Passe cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can you check in this patch? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:35:09 MDT." <199704172235.QAA23545@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:04:03 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Tnks Steve! To the group, This now constitutes driver version 1.0. Tomorrow I will create a tar file and make it available on my ftp site (haven't updated my ftp site for a while now). The Bt848 web page still is the primary contact for Bt848 related stuff. Enjoy, Amancio >From The Desk Of Steve Passe : > Hi, > > Amancio's patch for the problem of vic only capturing an even or odd frame pl us > the his early patch for missing frames with resolutions higher than 320x240 > in rgb mode has been committed to 3.0-current. > > -- > Steve Passe | powered by > smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 17 16:06:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA13217 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:06:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA13210 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:06:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 19:05:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10189; Thu, 17 Apr 97 19:05:29 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA02681; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 19:05:17 -0400 Message-Id: <19970417190516.60842@ct.picker.com> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 19:05:16 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Amancio Hasty Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bt848 Missing frames fix References: <88CE23A0B727D0118BB000805FD4752401606334@RED-81-MSG.dns.microsoft.com> <199704170639.XAA01583@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199704170639.XAA01583@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Wed, Apr 16, 1997 at 11:39:49PM -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amancio Hasty: |Been playing a little with fxtv-0.4 and is really nice -- next version I |hope that I can type in the channels --- something like : |03 . Useful when I running fxtv full screen . |The other keyboard feature which I would like is freeze frame |Maybe assigned to numeric keypad "/" so with "+" and "-" I can scan quickly |and then freeze something that I may like. | |The "-" and "+" is great for surfing 8) Sounds good. I'll jot down your suggestions for the future features list. Also now that CAP_SINGLE captures 2 fields reliably, it's time for me to put the save-to-disk features in there too. Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 17 16:14:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA13634 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA13628 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:14:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 19:13:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10311; Thu, 17 Apr 97 19:13:21 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA02693; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 19:13:09 -0400 Message-Id: <19970417191309.57479@ct.picker.com> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 19:13:09 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: "Louis A. Mamakos" Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bt848 Missing frames fix References: <199704171401.KAA01761@whizzo.transsys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199704171401.KAA01761@whizzo.transsys.com>; from Louis A. Mamakos on Thu, Apr 17, 1997 at 10:01:51AM -0400 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Louis A. Mamakos: |The even/odd fields thing is not (as) noticable when the capture window is |increased up to maximum size. I'll stare at it some more, but I think that |I'm willing to believe I've been seeing artifacts. Did you try this suggestion I mailed you last night? It sounds like this is what your seeing. The patch I suggest will cause fxtv to do only odd frames when capturing less than 240 scan lines -- currently it always does both, which can generate interesting aliasing artifacts for smaller capture resolutions. Randall Randall Hopper: |don't see it. This is because it's blasting both the odd and even frames |right on top of each other 30 times a second. If we're talking about the |same effect, you can make it go away by editing tvcapture.c, search down |for ODD, and uncomment that if statement. | |Maybe that should be the default (?) From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 17 16:14:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA13656 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:14:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA13647 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:14:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA02123; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:14:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704172314.QAA02123@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Randall Hopper cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fxtv 0.4 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 17 Apr 1997 17:16:23 EDT." <19970417171623.21430@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:14:28 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I am using fvwm95-2 and have Opaque turn on. I froze the last image then I moved the window around . Works like a charm with Opaque move. When I freeze the window, turn it off, move the window around the app refreshese the window while I moving around Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Randall Hopper : > Amancio Hasty: > |Most cool. Works like a charm over here. > |When moving the window around, can you freeze the last shown frame > |so that we don't get a black window. > > Sounds like a good idea, but first let me get you to try something to see > if its easily done: > > 1) Freeze frame once > 2) Turn continuous back on > 3) Then move the window while the video is running > > If you see the last freeze frame in the video window while you're moving, > should be an easy fix. That is, the window manager would seem to be > blasting refresh events at the window while its configuring. > > Which window manager are you using and how do you have your move policy > configured (I'm assuming you've got opaque moves turned on)? Also, do you > have any window manager whiz-bangs pop up on top of fxtv when you're > moving/resizing it that can change visibility (e.g. the "window > position-queue pop-up"). > > With fvwm2 outline moves on a direct-video fxtv work fine because the > configure doesn't come in until after the drag and release. With opaque > moves on fvwm2 though, fxtv leaves some pixel trash in its wake because > continuous reconfigures are being sent and the video is just rolling away, > moving a little with each Configure event -- its on my list of things to > look at fixing. > > |We have to get you clipping support and then you will be all set. > | > |So for version 1.x we will add clipping and arbiratry support for > |different orders of pixels RGB vs BGR etc.. > | > |An experimental version of the driver has some primitive clipping so > |that functionality seems to work with the bt848. > > Sounds cool! > > Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 17 16:16:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA13885 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:16:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA13880 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:16:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA02167; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:16:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704172316.QAA02167@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Doug White cc: Randall Hopper , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fxtv 0.4 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:37:25 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:16:29 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sure looks like the image is being displayed with the wrong order. RGB vs BGR. We will probably fix this with the major rev level of the driver. Amancio >From The Desk Of Doug White : > On Thu, 17 Apr 1997, Randall Hopper wrote: > > > Oops, sorry 'bout that. > > I shouldn't have said that. 24 bit mode has a new, even odder behavior > with the newer committed stuff than previously (march 24-ish). > > > |http://gdi.uoregon.edu/redscreen.gif. It looks like the gamma correction > > |is off in the RGB_24 case. It says it's falling back to Ximage, btw. > > > > Could you check your HTTP daemon or your firewall config? I can get a to > > the telnet login on your box, but the HTTP daemon hasn't been answering > > today. telnet to port 80 and 8080 just give me connection refused. > > Sorry. I was playing around with the driver and forgot the http server > doesn't load by default. I'll put it on my other machine instead. Try > > http://resnet.uoregon.edu/dwhite/redscreen.gif > > This was using fxtv 0.4. > > > BTW, the XImage stuff is fine. Since the driver doesn't support 32bpp > > 8-8-8 BGR DMA transfers yet, fxtv is just telling you it can't tell the > > driver to DMA straight to the video card, so it's going to drop-back and > > capture to memory first, swap the pixel bits using the CPU, and then pop > > that onto the video window using ximages. > > The Mach64 is an exception. 24bit == 32bit on it, and the buffer is > GBR. How much more off-base can we get? :) > > > Please let me know what you're seeing for freeze frame and continuous and > > I'll work on ironing things out. > > I'll try to describe the direct video that I get. It's hard since I can't > capture it using xv or freezeframe (freezeframe crashes fxtv 0.3.2 > in this mode!). > > It appears that the video has been black/white inverted. Faces are black > with highlights that are speckled color. The screen is very dim. Turning > the brightness all the way up gives me a black screen. > > I changed the memory in the machine last week, from 32 (4x8mb) to 40 megs > (2x16mb and 2x4mb edo). I don't think that would have anything to do with > it, but a data point anyway. I've only got 2mb of vram so I don't run in > 24 bit mode, the desktop is too small. Next month, when I have cash, I > will probably upgrade the card to 4mb. > > Doug White | University of Oregon > Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Apr 17 16:36:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA15139 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:36:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA15134 for ; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:36:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 19:34:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10814; Thu, 17 Apr 97 19:35:05 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA02728; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 19:34:54 -0400 Message-Id: <19970417193454.22966@ct.picker.com> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 19:34:54 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Doug White Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fxtv 0.4 References: <19970417173536.21060@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: ; from Doug White on Thu, Apr 17, 1997 at 03:37:25PM -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Doug White: |http://resnet.uoregon.edu/dwhite/redscreen.gif Got it. |This was using fxtv 0.4. | |> BTW, the XImage stuff is fine. Since the driver doesn't support 32bpp |> 8-8-8 BGR DMA transfers yet, fxtv is just telling you it can't tell the |> driver to DMA straight to the video card, so it's going to drop-back and |> capture to memory first, swap the pixel bits using the CPU, and then pop |> that onto the video window using ximages. | |The Mach64 is an exception. 24bit == 32bit on it, and the buffer is |GBR. How much more off-base can we get? :) The ordering of the components is what prevents direct DMA to video card (with the current bt driver that is), but I'd still like to fix the bug in the fxtv pixel conversion. All the code is there to convert between arbitrary pixel formats - just needs a tweak or two. Can you send me the output of: xdpyinfo in the mode configuration you're seeing the strange display. I'd also be interested in the startup output of: fxtv -debug up until the point where it gets the window on the screen. |I'll try to describe the direct video that I get. It's hard since I can't |capture it using xv or freezeframe (freezeframe crashes fxtv 0.3.2 |in this mode!). | |It appears that the video has been black/white inverted. Faces are black |with highlights that are speckled color. The screen is very dim. Turning |the brightness all the way up gives me a black screen. Cool! Now I'm clueless.. Hopefully the command output shed some light. :-) Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Apr 18 07:20:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA08780 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 07:20:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thelab.hub.org (hal-ns3-18.netcom.ca [207.181.94.146]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA08760; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 07:20:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thelab.hub.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thelab.hub.org (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id LAA10744; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 11:20:16 -0300 (ADT) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 11:20:16 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker Reply-To: The Hermit Hacker To: multimedia@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: A few StarOffice related questions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi... Originally having overlooked the thread in multimedia concerning StarOffice, I went back into the archives and re-read all of the messages, and haven't seemed to come across answers for any of these, so I shall ask here. ====[ online help ]==== svdaemon needs to be started to get online help...has anyone succeeded in getting this to work? If I type 'svdaemon', it just sort of hangs there, where I would have expected it to auto-background itself. Not so big a problem, except that if I go to help/contents, I get nothing. If I do a 'ps x' after doing this, I see: 10557 v0 S 0:00.06 /usr/local/StarOffice-3.1/linux-x86/bin/svdaemon Oops, swriter3 starts up its own svdaemon when you try to do help/contents...the readme file seems to imply that I had to do it manually :( Restart swriter3, don't start svdaemon, go to help/contents...it starts up svdaemon, but still no help. ====[ inter-application communication ]==== Again, doesn't auto-background, but since I'm not really certain on how to make use of that one, can't test it. Also, after a period of time, I get: Cannot register service: RPC: Timed out unable to register (SVPORTMAP, SVPORTMAPVERSION, udp). ====[ swriter3: loading files ]==== The reason I wanted at online help was to hopefully find an answer to this problem. I have a text based file that I want to load up into StarOffice and play around with formatting and whatnot. If I go to open and try to load the file, I get an error of: Non-existent object Non-existent file So I can't seem to load the file. If I rename the file as .txt, I get as far as it asking me for the 'filter' to use, which I choose 'Text Unix', and then after I click 'Ok', it then proceeds to give me the same error again, but actually loads the file this time... Marc G. Fournier Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Apr 18 10:31:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA20160 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:31:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from INET-04-IMC.microsoft.com (mail4.microsoft.com [131.107.3.29]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20154 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:31:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by INET-04-IMC with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.14) id ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:28:04 -0700 Message-ID: <88CE23A0B727D0118BB000805FD4752401635F0C@RED-81-MSG.dns.microsoft.com> From: Thomas Pfenning To: Amancio Hasty Cc: "Louis A. Mamakos" , Randall Hopper , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Bt848 Missing frames fix Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:24:35 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.14) Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I did some more phone calls and it turned out that I have to wait a bit before I can run the WDM driver. I did install the vxd version of it and it runs very nice at any resolution. When you scale smaller than 240 there are similar aliasing effects but not as pronounced as with the FreeBSD driver. Unlike FreeBSD where the Ximage performance is acceptable you only get smooth picture quality if you use the overlay surface. Bottomline, today the FreeBSD driver looks better. Next round when I get the WDM driver to work, which is probably in 4 weeks. Cheers Thomas > -----Original Message----- > From: Thomas Pfenning > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 1997 11:19 PM > To: 'Amancio Hasty' > Cc: Louis A. Mamakos; Randall Hopper; multimedia@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: Bt848 Missing frames fix > > Will do tomorrow. I formatted my NTFS disk today after loosing a few > hours trying to install the WDM driver on the NT5 beta. Even with all > necessary files (;-)) I could not get it to work. Tomorrow and the > following days will try the vidcap driver for Win95 and the WDM driver > for Memphis. > > I will let you know how it goes. For now I can say that the Meteor > driver does not show these steps on FreeBSD. > > Cheers > > Thomas > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Amancio Hasty [SMTP:hasty@rah.star-gate.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 1997 11:12 PM > To: Thomas Pfenning > Cc: Louis A. Mamakos; Randall Hopper; multimedia@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Bt848 Missing frames fix > > > Hi Doc, > > Care to tell us how does the Bt848 look in Win9x or NT? > That is when you get a chance. > Or for that matter anyone out there running Win95 can also > volunteer > the Win95 info. > > > Tnks, > Amancio > > From The Desk Of Thomas Pfenning : > > I think you are right. It manifests itself in highly visible > steps on > > sloped lines. However, I only see this at 24bit color depth. > At 15 bit > > everything looks okay. > > > > Cheers > > > > Thomas > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Louis A. Mamakos [SMTP:louie@TransSys.COM] > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 1997 7:45 PM > > > To: Randall Hopper > > > Cc: Amancio Hasty; multimedia@freebsd.org > > > Subject: Re: Bt848 Missing frames fix > > > > > > I've also noticed the occasional case where the system seems > to lock > > > up pretty tight. > > > > > > In my case, it seems to be related to having fxtv's view > window > > > resized > > > to something between the default "small" size, and full size > and > > > having > > > a marginal input signal. It might be related to occasional > > > loss-of-sync > > > sort of provocation, but its not real clear. In my case, I > don't > > > recall > > > still seeing live pictures on the display, but the box > hasn't reset; > > > I'm > > > still hearing the audio through the soundcard mixer. > > > > > > Also, as I've mentioned to Randall, I think that the > even/odd fields > > > are > > > interchanged. Someone else mentioned this before, and it > seems > > > noticable if you look at text and graphical objects on the > tv > > > broadcast. > > > I recall looking at this a little while ago, and I thought > that the > > > way the RISC program were being built had the wrong field > (even or > > > odd?) > > > starting off in the memory buffer. Is it just me, or is > anyone else > > > noticing this? > > > > > > louie > > > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Apr 18 10:40:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA20940 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:40:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.30]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20903; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:40:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA14392; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:40:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:40:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White X-Sender: dwhite@localhost Reply-To: Doug White To: The Hermit Hacker cc: multimedia@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A few StarOffice related questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > Originally having overlooked the thread in multimedia concerning > StarOffice, I went back into the archives and re-read all of the messages, > and haven't seemed to come across answers for any of these, so I shall > ask here. A#1: What version of libc do you have in /compat/linux/lib? Stuff won't work properly if you don't have the most recent libs. I believe the linux-lib-2.4 port is in, so you should be able to grab & install it from ports-current. > ====[ online help ]==== > > svdaemon needs to be started to get online help...has anyone succeeded > in getting this to work? If I type 'svdaemon', it just sort of hangs there, > where I would have expected it to auto-background itself. Not so big a > problem, except that if I go to help/contents, I get nothing. If I do a 'ps x' > after doing this, I see: [...] The English help isn't available, so you get a nice note telling you to try such and such website and blah... so you aren't missing anything. > I have a text based file that I want to load up into StarOffice > and play around with formatting and whatnot. If I go to open and try to > load the file, I get an error of: > > Non-existent object > Non-existent file > > So I can't seem to load the file. I loaded a Word 6 file okay, so I can't help you. Did you check permissions? Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Apr 18 12:08:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA26303 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 12:08:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uhf.wdc.net (uhf.radiant.net [206.186.235.44]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26292 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 12:08:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wdc.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA08432 for ; Fri, 18 Apr 1997 15:08:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 15:08:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Doehner To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: GUS Classic Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Gang: I am going to be losing my win95 laptops in a couple of months and I am looking at other alternatives for voice over the net. It will probably take quite some time before getting the mad16 driver support to work, so I lurked on the GUS mailing list, and found one for sale. It's a GUS classic version 3.4 with 1 MB RAM. I only intend to do voice over the net with some realaudio receiving. 1MB should be plenty for that (even in full duplex mode) no? What about the CDROM interface? How useable/supported is it under FreeBSD? Lastly, what would you consider a fair price for a used GUS Class in the above configuration? Thanks. Bernie From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Apr 19 11:14:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA29246 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 11:14:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA29240 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 11:14:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:13:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28172; Sat, 19 Apr 97 14:13:29 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA06397; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:13:14 -0400 Message-Id: <19970419141314.20369@ct.picker.com> Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:13:14 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: multimedia@freebsd.org Cc: Amancio Hasty Subject: bt848/fxtv: More info on system freezes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I beat on the system freeze problem this morning, and whittled it down to a very simple procedure that always quickly reproduces the problem on my system. First, how to reproduce it, followed by my system configuration: HOW TO REPRODUCE 1) Start up X with no clients except a single stock xterm. 2) Start up fxtv 0.4 such that it doesn't overlap the xterm. fxtv is continuous displaying to the screen w/ direct video. 3) Now, start up a full-screen app (a text-mode app; runs in the xterm) 4) Lean on the key that causes the app to redraw its display After about 10-30 seconds, the xterm font gets corrupted. Shortly thereafter (milliseconds or seconds later), the X server locks up hard. Display dead, keyboard dead, mouse dead. Sometimes if I'm quick about it, I can get up off the "refresh" key in time for the queued refreshes to quit "after" the font is first corrupted but "before" the X server has locked. I can then Ctrl-Alt-Bksp to kill the server, and start it up again, giving me a sensible display with no traces of the corruption. Seems to be evidence that the X server state is being corrupted somehow, and not the system in general. Further evidence that this is typically localized to the X server and its state is that, if I have a kernel rebuild going on in an xterm and the the lock-up occurs, the kernel build will continue for 30-60 sec, presumably until the ptty device queue fills up because there's no process on the other end slirping off of it. Also of note is that after the font corruption starts, it continues to mutate some with each refresh. Line corruption through characters is the most common and stays fairly constant across refreshes, but there is some "white noise" (stray pixels) that appear and disappear in the font characters. Also, the corruption is in the colors that are used on the xterm at the time (purple, white, and blue). Seems to indicate that the font data is being corrupted before it's being blasted on the screen rather than after the fact by some corruption directly applied to the frame buffer. SYSTEM CONFIGURATION Motherboard: ASUS P55TP4XE (Triton 1), P100, 32Meg mem Video Card : STB Velocity 3D (S3988 "Virge", 4Meg VRAM) FreeBSD Ver: 2.2-GAMMA XServer Cfg: XFree 3.2A (S3V server) 1024x768 555 16bpp w/ 1152x900 desktop XTerm Cfg : stock xterm; 80x47 geometry w/ 9x15 font TV Software: Driver - bt848-970401 w/ Amancio's "missing fields" patch Client - FXTV 0.4 BIOS Cfg : I did try Steve's suggestion of: PCI Streaming = OFF; Video BIOS Cache = OFF; VGA Palette Snoop = OFF All testing done/problems encountered this morning were with these settings. Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Apr 19 14:28:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA13673 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:28:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13660 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA03885; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:28:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704192128.OAA03885@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Randall Hopper cc: multimedia@freebsd.org, David Dawes Subject: Re: bt848/fxtv: More info on system freezes In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:13:14 EDT." <19970419141314.20369@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:28:16 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk We may have to file a bug report with the X server group to see if we can get them to help us out. I will be honest with you every day I use fxtv and I don't get a crash -- once I did get the font corruption and the system didn't craash however I have not been able to reproduce it. My take is that is probably more to do with the PCI chipset. The "mistery-bit" on the Bt848 is supposed to be a work around for the Natoma chipset. I still don't know what is supposed to do other than what I stated. All I am saying is that is difficult to troubleshoot on my PPRo . Guess that I will have to switch testing to my P100 which does have a Natoma chipset. You got a high praise on fxtv . Just showed the program to a friend of mine (switch between full screen and normal, use the keypad to switch channel, etc..) and my friend said : "Wow" . Regards, Amancio P.S.: To David, we are doing high speed data transfer (PCI to PCI) from the bt848 (video capture chip) to the S3's frame buffer. >From The Desk Of Randall Hopper : > I beat on the system freeze problem this morning, and whittled it down > to a very simple procedure that always quickly reproduces the problem on my > system. > > First, how to reproduce it, followed by my system configuration: > > HOW TO REPRODUCE > > 1) Start up X with no clients except a single stock xterm. > 2) Start up fxtv 0.4 such that it doesn't overlap the xterm. > fxtv is continuous displaying to the screen w/ direct video. > 3) Now, start up a full-screen app (a text-mode app; runs in the xterm) > 4) Lean on the key that causes the app to redraw its display > > After about 10-30 seconds, the xterm font gets corrupted. Shortly > thereafter (milliseconds or seconds later), the X server locks up > hard. Display dead, keyboard dead, mouse dead. > > Sometimes if I'm quick about it, I can get up off the "refresh" key in > time for the queued refreshes to quit "after" the font is first > corrupted but "before" the X server has locked. I can then > Ctrl-Alt-Bksp to kill the server, and start it up again, giving me a > sensible display with no traces of the corruption. > > Seems to be evidence that the X server state is being corrupted > somehow, and not the system in general. > > Further evidence that this is typically localized to the X server and > its state is that, if I have a kernel rebuild going on in an xterm and > the the lock-up occurs, the kernel build will continue for 30-60 sec, > presumably until the ptty device queue fills up because there's no > process on the other end slirping off of it. > > Also of note is that after the font corruption starts, it continues to > mutate some with each refresh. Line corruption through characters is > the most common and stays fairly constant across refreshes, but there > is some "white noise" (stray pixels) that appear and disappear in the > font characters. Also, the corruption is in the colors that are used > on the xterm at the time (purple, white, and blue). Seems to indicate > that the font data is being corrupted before it's being blasted on the > screen rather than after the fact by some corruption directly applied > to the frame buffer. > > SYSTEM CONFIGURATION > > Motherboard: ASUS P55TP4XE (Triton 1), P100, 32Meg mem > Video Card : STB Velocity 3D (S3988 "Virge", 4Meg VRAM) > > FreeBSD Ver: 2.2-GAMMA > XServer Cfg: XFree 3.2A (S3V server) > 1024x768 555 16bpp w/ 1152x900 desktop > > XTerm Cfg : stock xterm; 80x47 geometry w/ 9x15 font > > TV Software: Driver - bt848-970401 w/ Amancio's "missing fields" patch > Client - FXTV 0.4 > > BIOS Cfg : I did try Steve's suggestion of: > > PCI Streaming = OFF; Video BIOS Cache = OFF; > VGA Palette Snoop = OFF > > All testing done/problems encountered this morning were > with these settings. > > > Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Apr 19 14:31:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA14120 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:31:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA14109 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:31:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA03913; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:31:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704192131.OAA03913@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Randall Hopper cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bt848/fxtv: More info on system freezes In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:13:14 EDT." <19970419141314.20369@ct.picker.com> Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:31:17 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk One thing that may shed some light is if you uncomment printing the status register and repeat the test. #if defined( STATUS_SUM ) /* add any new device status or INTerrupt status bits */ status_sum |= (bktr_status & ~(BT848_INT_RSV0|BT848_INT_RSV1)); status_sum |= ((dstatus & (BT848_DSTATUS_COF|BT848_DSTATUS_LOF)) << 6); #endif /* STATUS_SUM */ /** printf( " STATUS %x %x %x \n", dstatus, bktr_status, bt848->risc_count ); */ Uncomment that printf in bktr_intr Tnks, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Apr 19 14:56:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA17024 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:56:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apolo.biblos.unal.edu.co ([168.176.37.75]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16922 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 14:55:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unalmodem.usc.unal.edu.co (unalmodem09.usc.unal.edu.co [168.176.3.39]) by apolo.biblos.unal.edu.co (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA20369; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 16:57:30 -0500 (COT) Message-ID: <33595A96.28E4@fps.biblos.unal.edu.co> Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 16:51:50 -0700 From: Pedro Giffuni X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" CC: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Status and future of sound drivers ? References: <12709.861486158@time.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [Moved to mutimedia at Amancio's request...] Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > > > Yes, this much has been clear for awhile, but I thought we were > > > talking about working with our current sound driver but looking > > > for a suitable API target? > > > > > It's bad manners to answer one question with another, but.. > > Can't we base on Linux's OSS/Free and use similar APIs? This thing of > > I thought that's what I was suggesting. :-) I thought you were telling me to keep out my irrelevant subject :-). OK, let's contact Hannu then, it's not good to make him loose his time in a new version if we are gonna "Abridge and Extend". Pedro. > > Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Apr 19 15:06:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA17860 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:06:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17852 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:06:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA04417; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:06:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704192206.PAA04417@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Bernie Doehner cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GUS Classic In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 18 Apr 1997 15:08:49 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:06:14 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I would go for a GUS PnP with at least 512k specially if you want to use vat. Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Bernie Doehner : > Hi Gang: > > I am going to be losing my win95 laptops in a couple of months and I am > looking at other alternatives for voice over the net. It will probably > take quite some time before getting the mad16 driver support to work, so I > lurked on the GUS mailing list, and found one for sale. > > It's a GUS classic version 3.4 with 1 MB RAM. I only intend to do voice > over the net with some realaudio receiving. 1MB should be plenty for that > (even in full duplex mode) no? > > What about the CDROM interface? How useable/supported is it under FreeBSD? > > Lastly, what would you consider a fair price for a used GUS Class in the > above configuration? > > Thanks. > > Bernie > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Apr 19 15:13:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA18342 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:13:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18331 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:13:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA12886; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:12:55 -0700 (PDT) To: Pedro Giffuni cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Status and future of sound drivers ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 19 Apr 1997 16:51:50 PDT." <33595A96.28E4@fps.biblos.unal.edu.co> Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:12:54 -0700 Message-ID: <12884.861487974@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I thought you were telling me to keep out my irrelevant subject :-). > > OK, let's contact Hannu then, it's not good to make him loose his time > in a new version if we are gonna "Abridge and Extend". Uh. We don't have to though! We already know his plans (OSS Lite in 6 months) and all we need for now is the soundcard.h stuff from http://www.4front-tech.com/pguide/sndcrd.html I don't understand what's so difficult about this. ;-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Apr 19 15:18:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA18636 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:18:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18631 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:18:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA04562; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704192217.PAA04562@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Pedro Giffuni cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Status and future of sound drivers ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 19 Apr 1997 16:51:50 PDT." <33595A96.28E4@fps.biblos.unal.edu.co> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:17:55 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ah, much better now... My plan is to revamp the sound driver version 3.5 which I think it is pretty close to what OSS is offering. Other alternatives such as NetBSD or OpenBSD are not really viable because we want to have the same api as the linux sound driver. When will I begin ? Shortly after we are done with the Bt848 driver. I am hoping that I can wrap up what I have to do in less than a week. Regards, Amancio >From The Desk Of Pedro Giffuni : > [Moved to mutimedia at Amancio's request...] > > Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > > Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes, this much has been clear for awhile, but I thought we were > > > > talking about working with our current sound driver but looking > > > > for a suitable API target? > > > > > > > It's bad manners to answer one question with another, but.. > > > Can't we base on Linux's OSS/Free and use similar APIs? This thing of > > > > I thought that's what I was suggesting. :-) > I thought you were telling me to keep out my irrelevant subject :-). > > OK, let's contact Hannu then, it's not good to make him loose his time > in a new version if we are gonna "Abridge and Extend". Yes, contacting Hannu with respect to OSS is a good idea . It provides feedback and for sure it will motivate him and his crew to further do more work for FreeBSD. The other thing that we can do is ask him how can we help? Regards, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Apr 19 15:26:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA19232 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:26:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA19226 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:26:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA12985; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:26:09 -0700 (PDT) To: Amancio Hasty cc: Pedro Giffuni , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Status and future of sound drivers ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:17:55 PDT." <199704192217.PAA04562@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:26:09 -0700 Message-ID: <12983.861488769@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Yes, contacting Hannu with respect to OSS is a good idea . It provides > feedback and for sure it will motivate him and his crew to further > do more work for FreeBSD. The other thing that we can do is ask him > how can we help? Since I talk to these guys (Dev and Hannu) a fair bit, and in significant detail, perhaps I can help clarify their current position: 1. They wish to focus purely on the commercial product for now, and any pushing on the "free" side of their product line isn't really going to net good results (I've already tried and been told that it's in the works but NOT for at least 6 months and this time- table is very firm). Given that the commercial product is only $20, I don't see this as a hugely big deal (and you get free lifetime updates - such a deal!). 2. What Hannu needs right now more than anything (and he's asked directly in -hackers) is for people to help him test the current OSS demo which I stuck in 2.2.1's commerce distribution. It has been hanging a few core folk machines, but apparently all most of us have time to say is "it crashes my machine!" and Hannu is sort of frustrated at the lack of reproducible details. ;-) 3. If we want to continue to improve the current driver, and I've talked with the 4front folks about our short-term needs, all they ask is that we stay API compatible. Again, the web page at http://www.4front-tech.com/pguide/sndcrd.html contains all the relevant details and should be a good reference. Jordan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Apr 19 15:30:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA19409 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:30:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA19402 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA04641 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:30:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704192230.PAA04641@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Bt848 driver enhancements Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:30:24 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk 1. John-Mark Gurney donated the code to allow the Bt848 driver drive displays such as the Matrox Millenium . John's implementation is based upon Randall Hopper of querying the driver for an RGB mask to determine the color scheme which the driver implements in hardware and the functionality to chose different pixel order : RGB vs BGR. Waiting on the pipeline is for me or Randall to test the patch. 2. I implemented hardware clipping for the bt848 driver and I am about to start testing. The Bt848 will be able to clip against a list of rectangles. More on this after I am done with testing . It should take about a day or two to make sure that the changes do work. App's such as Randall's fxtv will be able to use PCI to PCI transfer and when a window or a menu occludes a portion of the video display the application will be able to issue a list of clip regions for the bt848 not to draw on. 3. last but not least attempt to find out why Randall's machine crashes under specific circumstances Enjoy, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Apr 19 15:38:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA19941 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:38:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA19935 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA04737; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:37:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704192237.PAA04737@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Pedro Giffuni , multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Status and future of sound drivers ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:26:09 PDT." <12983.861488769@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:37:38 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk When you get a chance please ask Hannu to play a more active role perhaps on the multimedia mailing list. For sure -hackers is the wrong mailing list . I for starters don't remember his posting. Tnks, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Apr 19 16:47:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA23364 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 16:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cobber.cord.edu (cobber.cord.edu [138.129.1.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA23359 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 16:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by cobber.cord.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08200; Sat, 19 Apr 97 18:21:59 CDT Date: Sat, 19 Apr 97 18:21:59 CDT From: mestery@cobber.cord.edu (Kyle Mestery) Message-Id: <9704192321.AA08200@cobber.cord.edu> To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk subscribe mestery@cobber.cord.edu From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Apr 19 17:45:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA25648 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 17:45:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA25641 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 17:45:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA00497 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 17:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199704200045.RAA00497@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Bt848 and aliasing effects Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 17:45:29 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Had a chance to check out the WinCast on my Win95 box and it looked really good at resolutions less than 320x240. Not sure if the program is displaying only odd or even frames. So after I wrap up my chances to the clip code I will look into it. It shouldn't be too difficult to check out the code which does the scaling. Cheers, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Apr 19 19:56:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA29639 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 19:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (metriclient-8.uoregon.edu [128.223.172.8]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29634 for ; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 19:56:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id TAA01299; Sat, 19 Apr 1997 19:56:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19970419195619.15237@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 19:56:19 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Amancio Hasty Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Bt848 driver enhancements References: <199704192230.PAA04641@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199704192230.PAA04641@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Sat, Apr 19, 1997 at 03:30:24PM -0700 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2-960801-SNAP i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amancio Hasty scribbled this message on Apr 19: > 1. > John-Mark Gurney donated the code to allow the just so people know.. nike.efn.org and subdomain doesn't exist... my real email address is gurney_j@resnet.uoregon.edu (or gurney_j@efn.org)... > Bt848 driver drive displays such as the Matrox Millenium . John's > implementation is based upon Randall Hopper > of querying the driver for an RGB mask to determine the color scheme > which the driver implements in hardware and the functionality to > chose different pixel order : RGB vs BGR. -- John-Mark Cu Networking Modem/FAX: +1 541 683 6954 Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD