From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jul 6 01:30:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA14722 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 01:30:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA14717 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 01:30:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA00724 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 01:30:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707060830.BAA00724@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: guspnp8 driver release Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 01:30:53 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk GUSPNP8 7/6/97 This sound driver is for FreeBSD 3.0-current. I am looking for volunteers to work in different aspects of the driver if you can help please e-mail me at hasty@star-gate.com. This is a minor sound driver release for the GUS PnP Pro . In addition to the gus pnp driver the following cards are also supported: 1. SB AWE support provided by Randall Hopper. For further info on the state of the AWE driver see the 00-README-AWE-ONLY. 2. AudioTrix Pro - the driver for quite some time has supported this card. To configure the card add to your your kernel config file: controller snd0 device trix0 at isa? port 0x530 irq 9 drq 3 flags 0x1 vector adintr device trixsb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 7 conflicts drq 1 vector sbintr device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 7 conflicts drq 1 vector sbintr device opl0 at isa? port 0x388 conflicts -- Bugs fixed: 1. Aborting a process with CTL-C would sometimes cause the driver to go in an infinite loop. 2. With the AudioTrix PRO opening an audio device once used to not clear the busy device flag. Internally, I had the fix however I forgot to release the fix. Before you install the sound driver, if you are not running a recent FreeBSD-3.0 current please delete the following printf in /sys/i386/isa/isa.c: oid isa_dmastart(int flags, caddr_t addr, u_int nbytes, int chan) { vm_offset_t phys; int waport; caddr_t newaddr; #ifdef DIAGNOSTIC if (chan & ~VALID_DMA_MASK) panic("isa_dmastart: channel out of range"); if ((chan < 4 && nbytes > (1<<16)) || (chan >= 4 && (nbytes > (1<<17) || (u_int)addr & 1))) panic("isa_dmastart: impossible request"); if (dma_inuse & (1 << chan) == 0) printf("isa_dmastart: channel %d not acquired\n", chan); #endif if (dma_busy & (1 << chan)) printf("isa_dmastart: channel %d busy\n", chan); ^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ delete that if statement. A bit about the GUS PNP The difference between a GUS PnP and a GUS PnP PRO is that the Pro comes with 512kb. I went out and got a 1mb 60ns 30pin simm and installed it on my GUS PnP. I own a GUS PnP and a GUS PnP PRO. To unpack: cd / mv /sys/i386/isa/sound /sys/i386/isa/sound.old cd /sys/i386/isa/ tar -xzf guspnp8.tar.gz **DO NOT RUN the configure program in /sys/i386/isa/sound** cd /sys/i386/conf Edit the kernel config file in /sys/i386/conf IF YOU HAVE A GUS MAX or GUS add the option NOGUSPNP to the config file OPTIONS NOGUSPNP THEN follow the instructions for NONPNP CONFIGURATION PNP CONFIGURATION To configure your guspnp PRO if you have a motherboard which supports PnP: controller snd0 device gus0 at isa? vector gusintr NONPNP CONFIGURATION To configure your guspnp PRO if your motherboard does NOT support PnP: device gus0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 11 drq 1 flags 0x3 vector gusintr the gus pnp is fully software configurable and the above configuration is setup for full duplex audio. The dma channel settings are: drq 1 --- DMA channel for playback flags 0x3 --- DMAN channel for recording config cd /sys/compile/ make make install THERE IS NO NEED TO BOOT TO DOS TO CONFIGURE YOUR GUS PNP. THE DRIVER HAS BUILTIN SUPPORT FOR PNP WHICH I GOT FROM THE GRAVIS DRIVER DEVELOPMENT KIT Many thanks to Brian Litzinger for porting the sound driver 3.5 to 2.2-current. Well, that was a while ago hence the reference to 2.2. Have fun, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jul 6 17:46:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA14732 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 17:46:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cais.cais.com (root@cais.com [199.0.216.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA14727 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 17:46:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from earth.mat.net (root@earth.mat.net [205.252.122.1]) by cais.cais.com (8.8.5/) with SMTP id UAA14331; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 20:46:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Journey2.mat.net (journey2.mat.net [205.252.122.116]) by earth.mat.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA19045; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 20:46:40 -0400 Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 20:46:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@Journey2.mat.net To: Amancio Hasty cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: guspnp8 driver release In-Reply-To: <199707060830.BAA00724@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > GUSPNP8 7/6/97 > This sound driver is for FreeBSD 3.0-current. Couple of points, Amancio ... first, you don't say where you've put the distfile. Second, I've finally located both a Soundblaster 16 and a Soundblaster AWE pnp. If the software works, and I can get it to work in my (non pnp) gus max, and both the the Soundblasters, do you think maybe it's a candidate for committing into current? ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jul 6 17:58:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA15181 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 17:58:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA15176 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 17:58:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA07286; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 17:58:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707070058.RAA07286@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Chuck Robey cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: guspnp8 driver release In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 06 Jul 1997 20:46:41 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 17:58:09 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Chuck Robey : > On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > > > > GUSPNP8 7/6/97 > > This sound driver is for FreeBSD 3.0-current. > > Couple of points, Amancio ... first, you don't say where you've put the > distfile. Second, I've finally located both a Soundblaster 16 and a > Soundblaster AWE pnp. If the software works, and I can get it to work in > my (non pnp) gus max, and both the the Soundblasters, do you think maybe > it's a candidate for committing into current? ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/guspnp.tar.gz thats a simlink to the latest sound driver guspnp8.tar.gz As for committing the code , I will need more feedback from the group. Specially on non gus pnp cards. If I don't get any feedback the sound driver stays at my ftp site. Cheers, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jul 6 18:06:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA15500 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 18:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cais.cais.com (root@cais.com [199.0.216.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA15494 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 18:06:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from earth.mat.net (root@earth.mat.net [205.252.122.1]) by cais.cais.com (8.8.5/) with SMTP id VAA17057; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 21:06:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Journey2.mat.net (journey2.mat.net [205.252.122.116]) by earth.mat.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA19988; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 21:06:03 -0400 Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 21:06:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@Journey2.mat.net To: Amancio Hasty cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: guspnp8 driver release In-Reply-To: <199707070058.RAA07286@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, Amancio Hasty wrote: > >From The Desk Of Chuck Robey : > > On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > > > > > > > GUSPNP8 7/6/97 > > > This sound driver is for FreeBSD 3.0-current. > > > > Couple of points, Amancio ... first, you don't say where you've put the > > distfile. Second, I've finally located both a Soundblaster 16 and a > > Soundblaster AWE pnp. If the software works, and I can get it to work in > > my (non pnp) gus max, and both the the Soundblasters, do you think maybe > > it's a candidate for committing into current? > > ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/guspnp.tar.gz > > thats a simlink to the latest sound driver guspnp8.tar.gz > > As for committing the code , I will need more feedback from the group. > Specially on non gus pnp cards. If I don't get any feedback the > sound driver stays at my ftp site. OK, but it I get it running on the non-pnp GUS max, SB16, and PNP SB/AWE, would you consider that enough testing, perhaps? ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jul 6 18:16:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA15895 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 18:16:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA15890 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 18:16:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA07400; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 18:16:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707070116.SAA07400@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Chuck Robey cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: guspnp8 driver release In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 06 Jul 1997 21:06:04 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 18:16:05 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Chuck Robey : > OK, but it I get it running on the non-pnp GUS max, SB16, and PNP SB/AWE, > would you consider that enough testing, perhaps? Hi Chuck, Thats a good data point however is not enough. We really need to test the driver across different machines also I don't think that I am asking a lot given that a few hackers will upgrade so all I am asking is whether the sound driver works for them or not. Tnks, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jul 6 19:25:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA18679 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 19:25:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netwolf.NetMasters.Com (netwolf.netmasters.com [199.201.245.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA18674 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 19:25:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netwolf.NetMasters.Com (localhost.NetMasters.Com [127.0.0.1]) by netwolf.NetMasters.Com (8.8.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA00338; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 22:25:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707070225.WAA00338@netwolf.NetMasters.Com> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.9 8/22/96 To: Amancio Hasty cc: Chuck Robey , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Michael G Petry" Subject: Re: guspnp8 driver release In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 06 Jul 1997 18:16:05 PDT." <199707070116.SAA07400@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 22:25:06 -0400 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Another Data Point I've got it running on a Tyan Dual PPro with a GUS PNP under a 3.0-Current SMP kernel. I've been listening in to the Mars Lander and shuttle audio with not a hitch. I've also noticed that I can cat arbitrary bits at the audio device and interrupt it without causing a system hang. THANKS!! Great work. I can hardly wait till it's part of the tree and a lot easier to track changes. Mike > From The Desk Of Chuck Robey : > > OK, but it I get it running on the non-pnp GUS max, SB16, and PNP SB/AWE, > > would you consider that enough testing, perhaps? > > Hi Chuck, > > Thats a good data point however is not enough. We really need to test > the driver across different machines also I don't think that I am > asking a lot given that a few hackers will upgrade so all I am asking > is whether the sound driver works for them or not. > > Tnks, > Amancio > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jul 6 19:35:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA19151 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 19:35:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA19146 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 19:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA08199; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 19:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707070235.TAA08199@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: "Michael G Petry" cc: Chuck Robey , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: guspnp8 driver release In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 06 Jul 1997 22:25:06 EDT." <199707070225.WAA00338@netwolf.NetMasters.Com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 19:35:05 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Most Cool specially in a Dual PPro configuration !! Before the code gets a chance to be consider to be integrated into the kernel I will have to clean up the coding style and integrate whatever fixes people submit. If all goes well the process of integrating the sound driver in -current should take about two weeks -- provided of course that we keep getting feedback and that there are no show stoppers. Tnks! Amancio >From The Desk Of "Michael G Petry" : > > Another Data Point > > I've got it running on a Tyan Dual PPro with a GUS PNP under a 3.0-Current SM P > kernel. I've been listening in to the Mars Lander and shuttle audio with not a > hitch. I've also noticed that I can cat arbitrary bits at the audio device > and interrupt it without causing a system hang. THANKS!! Great work. I can > hardly wait till it's part of the tree and a lot easier to track changes. > > Mike > > > > From The Desk Of Chuck Robey : > > > OK, but it I get it running on the non-pnp GUS max, SB16, and PNP SB/AWE, > > > would you consider that enough testing, perhaps? > > > > Hi Chuck, > > > > Thats a good data point however is not enough. We really need to test > > the driver across different machines also I don't think that I am > > asking a lot given that a few hackers will upgrade so all I am asking > > is whether the sound driver works for them or not. > > > > Tnks, > > Amancio > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jul 6 20:04:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA20280 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 20:04:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whizzo.TransSys.COM (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA20275 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 20:04:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.TransSys.COM (8.8.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA03129; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 23:03:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199707070303.XAA03129@whizzo.TransSys.COM> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0delta 6/3/97 To: Amancio Hasty cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: guspnp8 driver release References: <199707060830.BAA00724@rah.star-gate.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 06 Jul 1997 01:30:53 PDT." <199707060830.BAA00724@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 06 Jul 1997 23:03:20 -0400 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've rebuilt a 3.0-CURRENT with the guspnp8 drivers. As I'm using a GUS PnP, this isn't really big news as it works as well as before on my sound card. I can play a bunch of MPEG encoded audio files back-to-back with no problems, gaps or other artifacts. But, there is a significant fix that works! I can now interrupt a sound being played without the system hanging and an ever-repeating excerpt of sound coming out of the sound card. On my system, I would hang it without fail, *every time* prior to this version. Thank you, thank you! If other testing goes well for other sound cards, I'd encourage you to commit this version into the 3.0-CURRENT tree. It would certainly make tracking 3.0-CURRNET easier, and this version is an improvement over the existing code (at least for GUS PnP users..) louie From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jul 6 21:03:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA21953 for multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 21:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (mvs.oac.ucla.edu [164.67.200.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA21946 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 1997 21:03:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707070403.VAA21946@hub.freebsd.org> Received: from UCLAMVS.BITNET by MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (IBM MVS SMTP V2R2.1) with BSMTP id 0979; Sun, 06 Jul 97 21:03:50 PST Date: Sun, 06 Jul 97 21:03 PDT To: Amancio Hasty From: Denis DeLaRoca Subject: Re: guspnp8 driver release CC: multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG Sender: owner-multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 06 Jul 1997 01:30:53 -0700, Amancio Hasty said: > > GUSPNP8 7/6/97 > This sound driver is for FreeBSD 3.0-current. And what about FreeBSD 2.2.2 folks? Not everybody can be running 3.0- current, wouldn't it be worth making the driver also function on the 2.2,x release as well so a greater number of people could use it? -- Denis From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jul 7 00:17:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA29834 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 00:17:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA29823 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 00:17:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA01615 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 00:17:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707070717.AAA01615@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: linux mod patches Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 00:17:20 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Included in ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/guspnp8.tar.gz is a patch for the linux lkm . If you use the linux lkm module and use a multimedia app such "mtv" please apply the patch. Randall Hopper submitted the linux lkm patch. Enjoy, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jul 7 00:41:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA00815 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 00:41:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fsnif.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (root@fsnif.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de [134.147.176.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA00806 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 00:41:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bochum.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (volker@zol.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de [134.147.176.24]) by fsnif.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id JAA11428 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:41:27 +0200 (MET DST) To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Dual PPro & Bt848 From: Volker Freiburg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: 07 Jul 1997 09:38:00 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 8 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Currently, I'm planning to use Bt848 based frame grabber cards in a Dual PPro board. The problem now is to find the right board. Are there any experiences with this combination? Which boards work well with the Bt848 and which do not? Please tell me your success stories. Thank you for your help, -Volker Freiburg- From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jul 7 02:08:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA04244 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 02:08:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fani.fidata.fi (fani.fidata.fi [193.64.102.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA04234 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 02:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zeta.fidata.fi (tomppa@zeta.fidata.fi [193.64.103.213]) by fani.fidata.fi (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16028 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 12:08:09 +0300 (EET DST) Received: (from tomppa@localhost) by zeta.fidata.fi (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA25114; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 12:08:09 +0300 (EET DST) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 12:08:09 +0300 (EET DST) Message-Id: <199707070908.MAA25114@zeta.fidata.fi> From: Tomi Vainio MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: New TV toy/Fxtv problems X-Mailer: VM 6.32 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: tomppa@fidata.fi Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I bought new toy for my home machine Hauppauge WinTv/PCI Model 406. I use it with 233MHz Asus P/I-XP6NP5 PPro, 4M Matrox Millenium and Xaccel or XFree. bktr0 rev 17 int a irq 15 on pci0:10 mapreg[10] type=0 addr=fb800000 size=1000. reg16: virtual=0xf49a8000 physical=0xfb800000 size=0x1000 using shared irq 15. brooktree0: PCI bus latency is 32. bktr0: buffer size 3555328, addr 0x3000000 Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Temic PAL tuner. I got bt848.970604.tgz and fxtv-0.43.tgz to play with. I use -inputFormat pal and -antennaFreqSet weurope options in Fxtv. System seems to work quite fine. I haven't seen any real problems or lockups that someone has mentioned here. Though I have some minor problems. - No picture on startup size fxtv. I have to zoom or resize window first. It's difficult to find working resolution when resizing window. Zoom button works fine but then window is too big. - Main channels here in Finland are located as 6, 8, 24 and 52. With weurope setting the lowest channel is 21. I also need channels E2-E12 and IA-IH. These worked fine with W95 software. Channel 52 was problem also in there. I can see channel 52 as channel 27 when using CATV weurope setting. - Picture is more mpeg-like mosaic and fuzzier in Fxtv than in W95 software. - I get bktr0: ioctl: tsleep error 35 1000d74 messages to syslog - Zooming doesn't work at all with Xaccel. I get immedimmediately: pid 486 (fxtv), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped). I haven't seen any picture with Xaccel. Tomppa -- Tomi Vainio, Fimeko-Data Oy Phone: +358 (0)9 4582421 Mail: tomppa@iki.fi tomppa@fidata.fi Telefax: +358 (0)9 4582425 From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jul 7 06:57:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA13663 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 06:57:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uhf.wdc.net (uhf.wdc.net [198.147.74.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA13658 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 06:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wdc.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA00550; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:58:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:57:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Doehner X-Sender: bad@uhf.wdc.net To: Volker Freiburg cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dual PPro & Bt848 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Currently, I'm planning to use Bt848 based frame grabber cards > in a Dual PPro board. The problem now is to find the right > board. Are there any experiences with this combination? Which > boards work well with the Bt848 and which do not? Please tell me > your success stories. > > Thank you for your help, > -Volker Freiburg- Halo Volker: I have been wondering the same thing. With the impending August 1 drop of the PPro price I am very interested in picking up a Dual PPro board and having it work with my bt848. How about it Steve?? I know you have at least one SMP machine.. Did you ever run your bt848 card in it? Bernie From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jul 7 07:00:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA13886 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 07:00:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fang.cs.sunyit.edu (umji@fang.cs.sunyit.edu [192.52.220.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13880 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 07:00:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (umji@localhost) by fang.cs.sunyit.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA19306 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:00:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:00:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Imor To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: subscribe Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk subscribe From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jul 7 07:04:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA14157 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 07:04:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cais.cais.com (root@cais.com [199.0.216.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14147 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 07:04:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from earth.mat.net (root@earth.mat.net [205.252.122.1]) by cais.cais.com (8.8.5/CJKv1.99-CAIS) with SMTP id KAA05308; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:04:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Journey2.mat.net (journey2.mat.net [205.252.122.116]) by earth.mat.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA17205; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:04:20 -0400 Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:04:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey X-Sender: chuckr@Journey2.mat.net To: Denis DeLaRoca cc: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: guspnp8 driver release In-Reply-To: <199707070403.VAA21946@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 6 Jul 1997, Denis DeLaRoca wrote: > On Sun, 06 Jul 1997 01:30:53 -0700, > Amancio Hasty said: > > > > GUSPNP8 7/6/97 > > This sound driver is for FreeBSD 3.0-current. > > And what about FreeBSD 2.2.2 folks? Not everybody can be running 3.0- > current, wouldn't it be worth making the driver also function on the > 2.2,x release as well so a greater number of people could use it? I was asking about when it could be checked into current, which hasn't anything at all to do with the 2.2.x folks. If folks who _run_ 2.2.x can try it and validate whether or not it runs on that, then folks using that could also use it, but that wouldn't affect what happens on current. It would indeed be a good thing to have it run on both, but no reason to hold current back. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@eng.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic, both FreeBSD (301) 220-2114 | version 3.0 current -- and great FUN! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jul 7 07:34:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA15714 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 07:34:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fledge.watson.org (root@FLEDGE.PC.CC.CMU.EDU [128.2.36.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15708 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 07:34:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (robert@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.8.5/8.6.10) with SMTP id KAA06071; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:34:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:34:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Watson To: "Daniel M. Eischen" cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Burning Audio CD scripts In-Reply-To: <199706281313.IAA05533@iworks.InterWorks.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 28 Jun 1997, Daniel M. Eischen wrote: > > Hi, > > I've found your burn_audio/convert2cdr scripts by searching the > mailing list archives. Thanks! > > One question. Did you use cdd to read audio files? I noticed > your burn_audio scripts wanted .cdr files, while cdd produces > .cda files. Is the raw format produced by cdd, the same thing > as the format you expect with the .cdr files? So I'd be able > to read an audio track with: > > cdd -r -noed -t 1 /usr/local/cd > > And rename the resulting /usr/local/cd/track-01.cda to track-01.cdr > to make it compatible with your burn_audio scripts? I have not sued cdd to generate .cda files -- most of the audio files I've burned have been generated on a Linux machine using cdd, however. Generally I use my CDR to burn data disks for myself, but occasionally I make audio CD's for others, hence having written the scripts. I believe cdd supports capture to .wav files, which my conversion scripts (should also have been attached to the message) will convert to cdr files using sox. If in doubt, generate a track both ways, and see if the files are the same or not. At the time I wrote the scripts, a FreeBSD port of cdd was not available, so I didn't really experiment with it much (other than to discover that my machine generates little-endian data files by default, which cds are not :). Let me know when you find out, and I'll post modified scripts/instructions to use the information. thanks, Robert Watson From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jul 7 08:20:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA18541 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 08:20:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pluto.plutotech.com (ken@[206.168.67.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA18535 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 08:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ken@localhost) by pluto.plutotech.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA28775; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:19:32 -0600 (MDT) From: Kenneth Merry Message-Id: <199707071519.JAA28775@pluto.plutotech.com> Subject: Re: Dual PPro & Bt848 In-Reply-To: from Volker Freiburg at "Jul 7, 97 09:38:00 am" To: volker@neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Volker Freiburg) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:19:32 -0600 (MDT) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28s (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Howdy, > Currently, I'm planning to use Bt848 based frame grabber cards > in a Dual PPro board. The problem now is to find the right > board. Are there any experiences with this combination? Which > boards work well with the Bt848 and which do not? Please tell me > your success stories. > > Thank you for your help, > -Volker Freiburg- > I've been using the Hauppauge WinCast/TV dbx board in my dual PPro machine. Here's the relevant hardware: ASUS P/I-P65UP5 w/ C-P6ND 2 P6-200's, 256K Matrox Millennium w/ 8MB WRAM Hauppauge WinCast/TV dbx One thing to mention -- I'm running Accelerated X, not XFree86. With Accelx, I can only run in "XImage" mode with fxtv. XFree86 3.2 was a little buggy... (as far as Matrox support goes) My guess is that 3.3 would work a lot better, but I haven't had a chance to try it yet. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jul 7 09:13:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA21014 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:13:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fsnif.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (root@fsnif.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de [134.147.176.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21007 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:13:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bochum.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (volker@zol.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de [134.147.176.24]) by fsnif.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id SAA16849; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 18:13:41 +0200 (MET DST) To: Kenneth Merry Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dual PPro & Bt848 References: <199707071519.JAA28775@pluto.plutotech.com> From: Volker Freiburg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: 07 Jul 1997 18:10:14 +0200 In-Reply-To: Kenneth Merry's message of Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:19:32 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: Lines: 20 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Kenneth Merry writes: > > I've been using the Hauppauge WinCast/TV dbx board in my dual PPro >machine. Here's the relevant hardware: > >ASUS P/I-P65UP5 w/ C-P6ND 2 P6-200's, 256K >Matrox Millennium w/ 8MB WRAM >Hauppauge WinCast/TV dbx > > One thing to mention -- I'm running Accelerated X, not XFree86. >With Accelx, I can only run in "XImage" mode with fxtv. XFree86 3.2 was a >little buggy... (as far as Matrox support goes) My guess is that 3.3 >would work a lot better, but I haven't had a chance to try it yet. > Sounds good, this is one of the boards on my list. Has anybody got it to work with a S3 ViRGE card in directV mode? Yours, -Volker Freiburg- From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jul 7 09:31:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA21690 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:31:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fsnif.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (root@fsnif.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de [134.147.176.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21681 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:31:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bochum.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (volker@zol.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de [134.147.176.24]) by fsnif.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id SAA16966; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 18:31:08 +0200 (MET DST) To: tomppa@fidata.fi Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New TV toy/Fxtv problems References: <199707070908.MAA25114@zeta.fidata.fi> From: Volker Freiburg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: 07 Jul 1997 18:27:43 +0200 In-Reply-To: Tomi Vainio's message of Mon, 7 Jul 1997 12:08:09 +0300 (EET DST) Message-ID: Lines: 44 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Tomi Vainio writes: > >- Main channels here in Finland are located as 6, 8, 24 and 52. With >weurope setting the lowest channel is 21. I also need channels E2-E12 >and IA-IH. These worked fine with W95 software. Channel 52 was >problem also in there. I can see channel 52 as channel 27 when using >CATV weurope setting. > Maybe the following patch is useful for you. It adds the E2-E12 and the S1-20 channels. Should be easy to add IA-IH as well ;-). Yours, -Volker Freiburg- -------------------------- snip snip -------------------------- --- brooktree848.c.orig Tue Jun 10 20:42:05 1997 +++ brooktree848.c Mon Jun 13 17:18:01 1997 @@ -3661,13 +3661,20 @@ * 100 3890 000 IFFREQ * */ -#define OFFSET 8.00 +#define OFFSET1 7.00 +#define OFFSET2 8.00 int weurope[] = { - 69, (int)( 38.90 * FREQFACTOR), 0, - 21, (int)(471.25 * FREQFACTOR), (int)(OFFSET * FREQFACTOR), + 100, (int)( 38.90 * FREQFACTOR), 0, + 90, (int)(231.25 * FREQFACTOR), (int)(OFFSET1 * FREQFACTOR), + 80, (int)(105.25 * FREQFACTOR), (int)(OFFSET1 * FREQFACTOR), + 74, (int)( 69.25 * FREQFACTOR), (int)(OFFSET1 * FREQFACTOR), + 21, (int)(471.25 * FREQFACTOR), (int)(OFFSET2 * FREQFACTOR), + 5, (int)(175.25 * FREQFACTOR), (int)(OFFSET1 * FREQFACTOR), + 2, (int)( 48.25 * FREQFACTOR), (int)(OFFSET1 * FREQFACTOR), 0 }; -#undef OFFSET +#undef OFFSET1 +#undef OFFSET2 /* * Japanese Broadcast Channels: From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jul 7 09:39:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA22397 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:39:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (Ilsa.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA22388 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 09:39:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20639; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 10:38:36 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199707071638.KAA20639@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 From: Steve Passe To: Bernie Doehner cc: Volker Freiburg , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dual PPro & Bt848 In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 07 Jul 1997 09:57:28 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 10:38:36 -0600 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > > Currently, I'm planning to use Bt848 based frame grabber cards > > in a Dual PPro board. The problem now is to find the right > > board. Are there any experiences with this combination? Which > > boards work well with the Bt848 and which do not? Please tell me > > your success stories. > ... > I have been wondering the same thing. With the impending August 1 drop of > the PPro price I am very interested in picking up a Dual PPro board and > having it work with my bt848. > > How about it Steve?? I know you have at least one SMP machine.. Did you > ever run your bt848 card in it? no I haven't put it in any SMP machine. I would expect it to work in any board good enough to run SMP properly. -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jul 7 12:30:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA03272 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 12:30:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.activision.com (internetsmtp.activision.com [207.82.188.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03261 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 12:30:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by internetsmtp.activision.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id <3DJLPWYK>; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 12:26:10 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Diamand, Ben" To: "'multimedia@freebsd.org'" Subject: bt848 driver project Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 12:26:08 -0700 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I noticed that you have support for the Intel Smart Video Recorder III. I would like to write a driver for this product under Windows95/NT. I realize that there already exists a driver supplied by Intel, but I was wondering if there was any additional information other than the datasheets provided by Brooktree that you used in developing your freeBSD driver. Thank-you very much! Ben Diamand bdiamand@activision.com From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jul 7 14:08:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA08495 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:08:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA08489 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:08:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05864; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:08:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707072108.OAA05864@rah.star-gate.com> To: "Diamand, Ben" cc: "'multimedia@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: bt848 driver project In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 07 Jul 1997 12:26:08 PDT." Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 14:08:20 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I wrote a Bt848 driver for a customer . If you like just e-mail me. Now Brooktree is supposed to have a driver development kit or a fully functional driver with sources for Win95 and when WDM gets release it will also work for NT 5.0. As to how I wrote the video portion of the driver ? Just read the databook and a lot of hardwork mostly because the databook falls very shy of being a damn good databook. It would have a help a lot for instance to provide an actual example on how to generate the microcode. After I wrote the driver and had a few more questions I contacted Brooktree and they sent me a dos kit which is okay however I felt it was somewhat lacking. I forgot... Microsoft has a WDM Bt848 driver with sources which is supposed to work for Win97 and Win NT 5.0. Last I check the WDM stuff is not complete for Win XXX.. At any rate, feel free to send me e-mail if you like for further discussion. Not too keen on discussing Win 95 stuff on this forum since is not pertinent and yes I realize that were asking for programming how to info. Cheers, Amancio . >From The Desk Of "Diamand, Ben" : > I noticed that you have support for the Intel Smart Video > Recorder III. I would like to write a driver for this product under > Windows95/NT. > > I realize that there already exists a driver supplied by Intel, > but I was wondering if there was any additional information other than > the datasheets provided by Brooktree that you used in developing your > freeBSD driver. > > Thank-you very much! > > Ben Diamand > bdiamand@activision.com From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jul 7 17:07:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA16543 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 17:07:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from icicle.winternet.com (adm@icicle.winternet.com [198.174.169.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16538 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 17:07:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from adm@localhost) by icicle.winternet.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) id TAA09348 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 19:07:17 -0500 (CDT) Posted-Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 19:07:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from tundra.winternet.com(198.174.169.11) by icicle.winternet.com via smap (V2.0) id xma009312; Mon, 7 Jul 97 19:06:46 -0500 Received: from localhost (mestery@localhost) by tundra.winternet.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id TAA04256 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 19:06:45 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: tundra.winternet.com: mestery owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 19:06:44 -0500 (CDT) From: Kyle Mestery To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: guspnp8 driver release In-Reply-To: <199707070058.RAA07286@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > As for committing the code , I will need more feedback from the group. > Specially on non gus pnp cards. If I don't get any feedback the > sound driver stays at my ftp site. > > Cheers, > Amancio > I just downloaded the code and rebuilt a kernel with it, and everything appears to be working okay. I have a SB32 (the non-AWE card), a Tyan Tomcat II with 2 120s, and 64M of RAM. I did not have any problems with the previous sound code that was in 3.0, and I am so far having no problems with this new code. Kyle Mestery StorageTek's Network Systems Group 7600 Boone Ave. N., Brooklyn Park, MN 55428 mesteka@anubis.network.com, mestery@winternet.com From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jul 7 20:56:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA25733 for multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 20:56:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA25726 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 20:56:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA07134; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 20:56:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707080356.UAA07134@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Kyle Mestery cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: guspnp8 driver release In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 07 Jul 1997 19:06:44 CDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 20:56:09 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Now this is really good news! Have you try to play back mpeg sound streams with mpg123 or mpeg movies with "mtv"? Tnks for the feedback! Amancio >From The Desk Of Kyle Mestery : > > As for committing the code , I will need more feedback from the group. > > Specially on non gus pnp cards. If I don't get any feedback the > > sound driver stays at my ftp site. > > > > Cheers, > > Amancio > > > I just downloaded the code and rebuilt a kernel with it, and everything > appears to be working okay. I have a SB32 (the non-AWE card), a Tyan > Tomcat II with 2 120s, and 64M of RAM. I did not have any problems with > the previous sound code that was in 3.0, and I am so far having no > problems with this new code. > > Kyle Mestery > StorageTek's Network Systems Group > 7600 Boone Ave. N., Brooklyn Park, MN 55428 > mesteka@anubis.network.com, mestery@winternet.com > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 8 05:53:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA15491 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 05:53:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA15483 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 05:53:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.8.5/8.7.3) id PAA18299; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 15:53:40 +0300 (EEST) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 15:53:40 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <199707081253.PAA18299@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Miromedia PC/TV Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to use Miromedia's PC/TV on with the latest bt848 driver that is from the same site than the fxtv application. For simplicity I'm feeding it PAL input into the composite video connector. It seems that for some reason it's running in NTSC mode anyway, that is the picture is very distorted and without colors. Anyone have ideas what to try? Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 8 07:21:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA19424 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 07:21:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from icicle.winternet.com (adm@icicle.winternet.com [198.174.169.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19419 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 07:20:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from adm@localhost) by icicle.winternet.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) id JAA17185 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 09:20:50 -0500 (CDT) Posted-Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 09:20:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from tundra.winternet.com(198.174.169.11) by icicle.winternet.com via smap (V2.0) id xma017137; Tue, 8 Jul 97 09:20:32 -0500 Received: from localhost (mestery@localhost) by tundra.winternet.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA14779 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 09:20:32 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: tundra.winternet.com: mestery owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 09:20:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Kyle Mestery To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: guspnp8 driver release In-Reply-To: <199707080356.UAA07134@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Amancio Hasty wrote: > Now this is really good news! > Yes, everything is still working so far. I was using workman to play CDs in my IDE CDROM drive, no problems. I was catting au files to /dev/audio, not problems. And I was using xanim to play some .mov and .avi files with audio, and again, no problems. It appears to be pretty stable! > Have you try to play back mpeg sound streams with mpg123 or mpeg > movies with "mtv"? > Where do I get these programs? I looked to see if they were ports, but I saw nothing with these names. If you can tell me where to get them I will try and them! > Tnks for the feedback! > Amancio > Kyle Mestery StorageTek's Network Systems Group 7600 Boone Ave. N., Brooklyn Park, MN 55428 mesteka@anubis.network.com, mestery@winternet.com From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 8 10:31:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA27838 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 10:31:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hotaka.cs.titech.ac.jp (hotaka.cs.titech.ac.jp [131.112.21.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA27832 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 10:31:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by hotaka.cs.titech.ac.jp (8.8.5/3.2W-titmx-2.0g); Wed, 9 Jul 1997 02:31:26 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199707081731.CAA06367@hotaka.cs.titech.ac.jp> To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: guspnp8 driver release In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 06 Jul 1997 01:30:53 -0700" References: <199707060830.BAA00724@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.28.2 / Mule 2.3 X-PGP-Fingerprint: CC EA 52 81 AE 24 56 72 69 D0 82 A8 15 00 B7 F9 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 02:31:25 +0900 From: NAGAO Tadaaki Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi folks, In message <199707060830.BAA00724@rah.star-gate.com>, Amancio Hasty wrote: > GUSPNP8 7/6/97 > This sound driver is for FreeBSD 3.0-current. `ulaw.h' included in this driver is the older and bogus one. IMO, it should be replaced by the one in FreeBSD-current and in linux-2.1.43, which was corrected couples of week ago. -- NAGAO, Tadaaki (nagao@cs.titech.ac.jp) Dept. of Computer Science, Tokyo Institute of Technology, Japan. PGP Public Key: finger -l nagao@cs.titech.ac.jp From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 8 11:11:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA29517 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:11:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29508 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:11:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA07185; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 11:11:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707081811.LAA07185@rah.star-gate.com> To: NAGAO Tadaaki cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: guspnp8 driver release In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 09 Jul 1997 02:31:25 +0900." <199707081731.CAA06367@hotaka.cs.titech.ac.jp> Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 11:11:25 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Tnks I will look into it. I want to add that some cards such as the GUS PnP or cards which have a CS4231 codec have hardware support for ulaw. Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of NAGAO Tadaaki : > Hi folks, > > In message <199707060830.BAA00724@rah.star-gate.com>, > Amancio Hasty wrote: > > GUSPNP8 7/6/97 > > This sound driver is for FreeBSD 3.0-current. > > `ulaw.h' included in this driver is the older and bogus one. > IMO, it should be replaced by the one in FreeBSD-current and > in linux-2.1.43, which was corrected couples of week ago. > > -- > NAGAO, Tadaaki (nagao@cs.titech.ac.jp) > Dept. of Computer Science, Tokyo Institute of Technology, Japan. > PGP Public Key: finger -l nagao@cs.titech.ac.jp From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 8 17:19:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA19075 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 17:19:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elch.heim4.tu-clausthal.de (100@elch.heim4.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.244.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA19065 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 17:19:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from olli@localhost) by elch.heim4.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA11389; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 02:19:27 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199707090019.CAA11389@elch.heim4.tu-clausthal.de> Subject: Re: guspnp8 driver release To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 02:19:27 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: mestery@winternet.com In-Reply-To: from "Kyle Mestery" at Jul 8, 97 09:20:32 am From: oliver.fromme@heim3.tu-clausthal.de (Oliver Fromme) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Kyle Mestery wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > Have you try to play back mpeg sound streams with mpg123 or mpeg > > movies with "mtv"? > > > Where do I get these programs? I looked to see if they were ports, but I > saw nothing with these names. If you can tell me where to get them I will > try and them! As far as mpg123 is concerned: http://mpg.123.org/ We haven't made a FreeBSD port yet, since we are still updating it very often. But a simple "make freebsd" does the job. Regards Oliver Fromme -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18-61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jul 8 23:44:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA00883 for multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 23:44:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (ala-ca13-05.ix.netcom.com [204.32.168.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA00878 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 23:44:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.6/8.6.9) id XAA01813; Tue, 8 Jul 1997 23:44:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 23:44:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707090644.XAA01813@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com CC: multimedia@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <199707060830.BAA00724@rah.star-gate.com> (message from Amancio Hasty on Sun, 06 Jul 1997 01:30:53 -0700) Subject: Re: guspnp8 driver release From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * GUSPNP8 7/6/97 * This sound driver is for FreeBSD 3.0-current. I got this to work with both 3.0-current and 2.2-stable with my GUS MAX (the old one, no PnP). Just dropped it in /sys/i386/isa/sound, added these lines: === controller snd0 device gus0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 vector gusintr options NOGUSPNP === to my kernel config file (I got the port/irq/drq from Win95's device manager), and presto! I now have a functional sound card! :) === Jul 8 23:06:13 silvia /kernel: gus0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 flags 0xffffffff on isa Jul 8 23:06:13 silvia /kernel: GUS MAX (CS4231A)> at 0x32c dma 1,1 Jul 8 23:06:13 silvia /kernel: Gravis UltraSound MAX (512k)> at 0x220 irq 5 dma 1 Jul 8 23:06:13 silvia /kernel: === (There appears to be an extra newline in there, btw.) I can now run auvoxware (it used to die with "no block info" or something with the exact same kernel config options) and play .wav files. I don't get panics or anything (oss keeps crashing my machine...). Thanks! :) Satoshi From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 9 04:08:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA09801 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 04:08:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from icicle.winternet.com (adm@icicle.winternet.com [198.174.169.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA09796 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 04:08:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from adm@localhost) by icicle.winternet.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) id GAA19070 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 06:08:24 -0500 (CDT) Posted-Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 06:08:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from tundra.winternet.com(198.174.169.11) by icicle.winternet.com via smap (V2.0) id xma019064; Wed, 9 Jul 97 06:08:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (mestery@localhost) by tundra.winternet.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id GAA03860 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 06:08:19 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: tundra.winternet.com: mestery owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 06:08:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Kyle Mestery To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: guspnp8 driver release In-Reply-To: <199707090019.CAA11389@elch.heim4.tu-clausthal.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > > Have you try to play back mpeg sound streams with mpg123 or mpeg > > > movies with "mtv"? > > > Well, I just got mpg123 and I am happily playing mp3 files with no problems! The only thing that happens is occasionally the mp123 program will stop playing a file, and not exit but just sit there, but I suspect this is a problem with mpg123. I am using mpg123 v0.59f. Thanks! Kyle Mestery StorageTek's Network Systems Group 7600 Boone Ave. N., Brooklyn Park, MN 55428 mesteka@anubis.network.com, mestery@winternet.com From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 9 04:16:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA10072 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 04:16:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA10067 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 04:16:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 7:15:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07513; Wed, 9 Jul 97 07:15:04 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA27887; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 07:12:58 -0400 Message-Id: <19970709071258.25557@ct.picker.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 07:12:58 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Volker Freiburg Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dual PPro & Bt848 References: <199707071519.JAA28775@pluto.plutotech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 In-Reply-To: ; from Volker Freiburg on Mon, Jul 07, 1997 at 06:10:14PM +0200 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Volker Freiburg: |Sounds good, this is one of the boards on my list. Has anybody got it to |work with a S3 ViRGE card in directV mode? I have been running it on an S3 Virge/VX (STB Velocity 3D 4Meg VRAM) with XFree 3.2A and 3.3; good card and solid drivers. Ken Stox has the same card. I think Bernie's got a Diamond Stealth 3D 2000 on his 486, which is an S3 Virge (DRAM-based). So you've got company there. What I don't know is if there's anyone out there yet that's run the driver and apps on the Virge/GX yet. Anybody got an STB Nitro 3D? Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 9 05:56:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA13177 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 05:56:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uhf.wdc.net (uhf.wdc.net [198.147.74.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA13151 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 05:55:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wdc.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA00631; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 08:53:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 08:53:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Doehner X-Sender: bad@uhf.wdc.net To: Volker Freiburg cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dual PPro & Bt848 In-Reply-To: <19970709071258.25557@ct.picker.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Volker Freiburg: > |Sounds good, this is one of the boards on my list. Has anybody got it to > |work with a S3 ViRGE card in directV mode? > > I have been running it on an S3 Virge/VX (STB Velocity 3D 4Meg VRAM) with > XFree 3.2A and 3.3; good card and solid drivers. Ken Stox has the same > card. I think Bernie's got a Diamond Stealth 3D 2000 on his 486, which is > an S3 Virge (DRAM-based). So you've got company there. Actualy mine is EDO based.. But I still have a few problems.. Mostly: 1. Flicker - (new problem). Now I have pretty bad flicker in X. Don't really understand it because I think the refresh rate is 85 Hz. and I am not interlaced and not exceeding the monitor specs. 2. Wincast will still ocasionaly hangs with IDE timeouts. By far not as bad as before, but still happens.. BUT, I discovered something that might have been causing me problems. I was IRQ sharing between my ethernet and video card. I am trying to get a Digiboard so that I can free up some of my IRQ's. Bernie From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 9 07:59:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA18326 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 07:59:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crh.cl.msu.edu (crh.cl.msu.edu [35.8.1.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA18320 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 07:58:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from henrich@localhost) by crh.cl.msu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA05679; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 10:58:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970709105848.60794@crh.cl.msu.edu> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 10:58:48 -0400 From: Charles Henrich To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: vat on sb16? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.78 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE X-PGP-Fingerprint: 1024/F7 FD C7 3A F5 6A 23 BF 76 C4 B8 C9 6E 41 A4 4F Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone gotten vat to work on a Soundblaster yet? -Crh Charles Henrich Michigan State University henrich@msu.edu http://pilot.msu.edu/~henrich From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 9 08:48:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA20564 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 08:48:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA20559 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 08:48:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA16569; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 08:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707091547.IAA16569@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Charles Henrich cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vat on sb16? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 09 Jul 1997 10:58:48 EDT." <19970709105848.60794@crh.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 08:47:52 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Try downloading ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/vat-and-half.gz which is just a straight compile of vat from ftp://ftp.ee.lbl.gov/conferencing/vat Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Charles Henrich : > Has anyone gotten vat to work on a Soundblaster yet? > > -Crh > > Charles Henrich Michigan State University henrich@msu.edu > > http://pilot.msu.edu/~henrich From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 9 09:20:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA22353 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 09:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crh.cl.msu.edu (crh.cl.msu.edu [35.8.1.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA22334 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 09:19:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from henrich@localhost) by crh.cl.msu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA00876; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:19:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970709121919.34219@crh.cl.msu.edu> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:19:19 -0400 From: Charles Henrich To: Amancio Hasty Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vat on sb16? References: <19970709105848.60794@crh.cl.msu.edu> <199707091547.IAA16569@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.78 In-Reply-To: <199707091547.IAA16569@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Wed, Jul 09, 1997 at 08:47:52AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE X-PGP-Fingerprint: 1024/F7 FD C7 3A F5 6A 23 BF 76 C4 B8 C9 6E 41 A4 4F Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On the subject of Re: vat on sb16?, Amancio Hasty stated: > Hi, > > Try downloading ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/vat-and-half.gz > which is just a straight compile of vat from > ftp://ftp.ee.lbl.gov/conferencing/vat It clips a ton :(. -Crh Charles Henrich Michigan State University henrich@msu.edu http://pilot.msu.edu/~henrich From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 9 09:21:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA22519 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 09:21:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA22503 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 09:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16772; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 09:21:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707091621.JAA16772@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Charles Henrich cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vat on sb16? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 09 Jul 1997 10:58:48 EDT." <19970709105848.60794@crh.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 09:21:21 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You really don't want a SB thingie for audio conferencing. Some of the traditional workstations use as the main audio component a CS4231 which is found on PC cards such as the AudioTrix Pro, the GUS Max and emulated in hardware by the GUS PnP. The SB thingies have two main problems lack of full duplex dma and a decent clock. Amancio >From The Desk Of Charles Henrich : > Has anyone gotten vat to work on a Soundblaster yet? > > -Crh > > Charles Henrich Michigan State University henrich@msu.edu > > http://pilot.msu.edu/~henrich From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 9 09:22:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA22570 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 09:22:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crh.cl.msu.edu (crh.cl.msu.edu [35.8.1.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA22551 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 09:22:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from henrich@localhost) by crh.cl.msu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA00920; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:22:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970709122206.29781@crh.cl.msu.edu> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:22:06 -0400 From: Charles Henrich To: Amancio Hasty Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vat on sb16? References: <19970709105848.60794@crh.cl.msu.edu> <199707091621.JAA16772@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.78 In-Reply-To: <199707091621.JAA16772@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Wed, Jul 09, 1997 at 09:21:21AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE X-PGP-Fingerprint: 1024/F7 FD C7 3A F5 6A 23 BF 76 C4 B8 C9 6E 41 A4 4F Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On the subject of Re: vat on sb16?, Amancio Hasty stated: > You really don't want a SB thingie for audio conferencing. > Some of the traditional workstations use as the main audio component > a CS4231 which is found on PC cards such as the AudioTrix Pro, > the GUS Max and emulated in hardware by the GUS PnP. > > The SB thingies have two main problems lack of full duplex dma and > a decent clock. Yea its crap, but its most widely available. :) And the SB16 works great under windows -Crh Charles Henrich Michigan State University henrich@msu.edu http://pilot.msu.edu/~henrich From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 9 09:22:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA22606 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 09:22:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA22587 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 09:22:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16811; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 09:22:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707091622.JAA16811@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Charles Henrich cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vat on sb16? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 09 Jul 1997 12:19:19 EDT." <19970709121919.34219@crh.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 09:22:38 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Get a GUS PnP PRo. Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Charles Henrich : > On the subject of Re: vat on sb16?, Amancio Hasty stated: > > > Hi, > > > > Try downloading ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/vat-and-half.gz > > which is just a straight compile of vat from > > ftp://ftp.ee.lbl.gov/conferencing/vat > > It clips a ton :(. > > -Crh > > Charles Henrich Michigan State University henrich@msu.edu > > http://pilot.msu.edu/~henrich From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 9 09:34:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA23341 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 09:34:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23331 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 09:34:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16885; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 09:34:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707091634.JAA16885@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Charles Henrich cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vat on sb16? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 09 Jul 1997 12:22:06 EDT." <19970709122206.29781@crh.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 09:34:33 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Charles Henrich : > On the subject of Re: vat on sb16?, Amancio Hasty stated: > > > You really don't want a SB thingie for audio conferencing. > > Some of the traditional workstations use as the main audio component > > a CS4231 which is found on PC cards such as the AudioTrix Pro, > > the GUS Max and emulated in hardware by the GUS PnP. > > > > The SB thingies have two main problems lack of full duplex dma and > > a decent clock. > > Yea its crap, but its most widely available. :) And the SB16 works great > under windows They just simply sound bad . Ask John Dyson he just recently got a Gus PnP Pro if we would switch back to a SB card ? 8) On the subject of soundcards, I am looking for a cheap NON SB card for FreeBSD and was wondering what people think about the Ensoniq AudioPCI? http://www.audiopci.ensoniq.com/ The cards are cheap like $70 or so and should be easy to configure pretty much like a GUS PnP. Tnks Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 9 10:09:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA25178 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 10:09:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA25171 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 10:09:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from East.Sun.COM ([129.148.1.241]) by mercury.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/mail.byaddr) with SMTP id KAA14642; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 10:35:31 -0700 Received: from suneast.East.Sun.COM by East.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-5.3) id NAA03860; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 13:08:51 -0400 Received: from compound.east.sun.com by suneast.East.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA17405; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 13:08:51 -0400 Received: (from alk@localhost) by compound.east.sun.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id MAA06211; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:09:20 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:09:20 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: Anthony.Kimball@East.Sun.COM Message-Id: <199707091709.MAA06211@compound.east.sun.com> From: Tony Kimball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vat on sb16? References: <19970709105848.60794@crh.cl.msu.edu> <199707091621.JAA16772@rah.star-gate.com> X-Face: O9M"E%K;(f-Go/XDxL+pCxI5*gr[=FN@Y`cl1.Tn Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Quoth Amancio Hasty on Wed, 9 July: : The SB thingies have two main problems lack of full duplex dma and : a decent clock. There are full-duplex windows drivers for the SB16. Do they fake it? There was once some talk of a Linux full-duplex driver but (to my knowledge) it got nowhere because supposedly Hannu was doing it. (This was before the commercialization of OSS.) Does anyone know: Did full-duplex SB support make it into OSS? From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 9 10:55:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA27567 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 10:55:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA27561 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 10:54:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17258; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 10:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707091754.KAA17258@rah.star-gate.com> To: Anthony.Kimball@East.Sun.COM cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vat on sb16? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 09 Jul 1997 12:09:20 CDT." <199707091709.MAA06211@compound.east.sun.com> Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 10:54:56 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As far as I know the SB thingies don't have fully functionable full duplex dma. The Windows driver fake it. Regards, Amancio >From The Desk Of Tony Kimball : > Quoth Amancio Hasty on Wed, 9 July: > : The SB thingies have two main problems lack of full duplex dma and > : a decent clock. > > There are full-duplex windows drivers for the SB16. Do they fake it? > There was once some talk of a Linux full-duplex driver but (to my > knowledge) it got nowhere because supposedly Hannu was doing it. > (This was before the commercialization of OSS.) Does anyone know: > Did full-duplex SB support make it into OSS? > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 9 12:09:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA01632 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:09:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (mvs.oac.ucla.edu [164.67.200.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA01618 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:09:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707091909.MAA01618@hub.freebsd.org> Received: from UCLAMVS.BITNET by MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (IBM MVS SMTP V2R2.1) with BSMTP id 9631; Wed, 09 Jul 97 12:09:55 PST Date: Wed, 09 Jul 97 12:09 PDT To: Charles Henrich From: Denis DeLaRoca Subject: Re: Re: vat on sb16? CC: multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG Sender: owner-multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:19:19 -0400, Charles Henrich said: > > which is just a straight compile of vat from > > ftp://ftp.ee.lbl.gov/conferencing/vat > > It clips a ton :(. With an also cheapie proAudioSpectrum-16, I get good results... though, as with all half-duplex cards Vat's timing is off and every so often you get a clip when flushing its audio playback buffer. The PAS-16 cards, if you can get a used one, is much better than the wretched SB cards. I keep wanting to migrate to a Gus PnP Pro, but Amancio's driver really wants FreeBSD 3.0 current -- I wish it were kept completely downward compatible to FreeBSD 2.2.2. -- Denis From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 9 12:20:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA02195 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:20:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crh.cl.msu.edu (crh.cl.msu.edu [35.8.1.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02050 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:17:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from henrich@localhost) by crh.cl.msu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA02008; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 15:12:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970709151257.47123@crh.cl.msu.edu> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 15:12:57 -0400 From: Charles Henrich To: Amancio Hasty Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vat on sb16? References: <19970709122206.29781@crh.cl.msu.edu> <199707091634.JAA16885@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.78 In-Reply-To: <199707091634.JAA16885@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Wed, Jul 09, 1997 at 09:34:33AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE X-PGP-Fingerprint: 1024/F7 FD C7 3A F5 6A 23 BF 76 C4 B8 C9 6E 41 A4 4F Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On the subject of Re: vat on sb16?, Amancio Hasty stated: > They just simply sound bad . Ask John Dyson he just recently got a Mine sounds just peachy playing back mpeg audio streams. -Crh Charles Henrich Michigan State University henrich@msu.edu http://pilot.msu.edu/~henrich From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 9 12:36:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA03259 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:36:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from plains.NoDak.edu (tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu [134.129.111.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03253 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:36:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by plains.NoDak.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA19685; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:36:11 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:36:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <199707091936.OAA19685@plains.NoDak.edu> To: CSP1DWD@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU, henrich@CRH.CL.MSU.EDU Subject: Re: Re: vat on sb16? Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I keep wanting to migrate to a Gus PnP Pro, but Amancio's driver really > wants FreeBSD 3.0 current -- I wish it were kept completely downward > compatible to FreeBSD 2.2.2. Amancio's guspnp7.tar.gz works for GUS PnP Pro under FreeBSD 2.2.2 RELEASE. --mark. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 9 12:43:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA03602 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:43:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uhf.wdc.net (uhf.4d.net [207.137.157.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03596 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:42:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wdc.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA00468; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 15:43:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 15:43:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Doehner X-Sender: bad@uhf.wdc.net To: Amancio Hasty cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vat on sb16? In-Reply-To: <199707091634.JAA16885@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > On the subject of soundcards, I am looking for a cheap NON SB card for FreeBSD > and was wondering what people think about the Ensoniq AudioPCI? > http://www.audiopci.ensoniq.com/ > > The cards are cheap like $70 or so and should be easy to configure pretty > much like a GUS PnP. > > Tnks > Amancio > Or if someone on this list sells or lends me an IRQ sharing multi serial port card I'll lend you my MAD16. Bernie From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 9 12:46:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA03869 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:46:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03864 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:46:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uhf.wdc.net (uhf.4d.net [207.137.157.140]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA20576 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:46:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bad@localhost) by uhf.wdc.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) id PAA00492 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 15:46:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 15:46:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Doehner Message-Id: <199707091946.PAA00492@uhf.wdc.net> To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: how many irq's? Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi: If I end up with a irq sharing serial port card, I'll have 3 irq's of which 1 will be going to a SCSI controller. That leaves 2 irq's for a sound card. Do both the Audiotrix and the GUS PnP work with only 2 IRQ's? Thanks. Bernie From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 9 12:49:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA04000 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:49:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (mvs.oac.ucla.edu [164.67.200.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA03995 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707091949.MAA03995@hub.freebsd.org> Received: from UCLAMVS.BITNET by MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (IBM MVS SMTP V2R2.1) with BSMTP id 5999; Wed, 09 Jul 97 12:49:55 PST Date: Wed, 09 Jul 97 12:49 PDT To: Mark Tinguely From: Denis DeLaRoca Subject: Re: Re: Re: vat on sb16? CC: multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG Sender: owner-multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:36:11 -0500 CDT, Mark Tinguely said: > > Amancio's guspnp7.tar.gz works for GUS PnP Pro under FreeBSD 2.2.2 RELEASE. I get a whole bunch of errors when trying to compile Vat with it. Amancio explained that it was due to slight changes in the ioctl structure between 2.2.2 and 3.0-current -- and thus it was becoming slightly difficult to keep the driver downward compatible. -- Denis From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 9 14:07:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA10046 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:07:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from plains.NoDak.edu (tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu [134.129.111.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA09963 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by plains.NoDak.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA23780; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 16:06:37 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 16:06:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <199707092106.QAA23780@plains.NoDak.edu> To: CSP1DWD@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU, tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu Subject: Re: Re: Re: vat on sb16? Cc: multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG Sender: owner-multimedia@FREEBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk there is always guspnp6.tar.gz. If Amancio can't get it back on rah, I have a copy here. --mark. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 9 16:27:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA19249 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 16:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA19241 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 16:27:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:26:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05024; Wed, 9 Jul 97 19:26:51 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA00141; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:24:57 -0400 Message-Id: <19970709192457.38115@ct.picker.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:24:57 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Amancio Hasty , Kyle Mestery Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: guspnp8 driver release References: <199707080356.UAA07134@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 In-Reply-To: <199707080356.UAA07134@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Mon, Jul 07, 1997 at 08:56:09PM -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Kyle Mestery: |> appears to be working okay. I have a SB32 (the non-AWE card), a Tyan Amancio Hasty: |Have you try to play back mpeg sound streams with mpg123 or mpeg |movies with "mtv"? Kyle Mestery: |Well, I just got mpg123 and I am happily playing mp3 files with no |problems! The only thing that happens is occasionally the mp123 program |will stop playing a file, and not exit but just sit there, but I suspect |this is a problem with mpg123. I am using mpg123 v0.59f. Thanks! Hey Kyle, glad to hear you also have a SB32. With two of us beating on it, hopefully we can get it into shape for our cards. FWIW after uncommenting the SB/SB16 support with guspnp7, I was having these problems with the driver on the SB32: - system freezes when breaking out of a /dev/dsp play app, - not getting any sound with mtv, - occasionally seeing the close of the device hang for a few seconds after a play, which you mentioned, and - recording fails (interrupted system call on read() if I remember) If you get a minute, could you pull mtv (www.mpegtv.com -- it's a Linux MPEG player) and try it on an MPEG system (audio+video) stream. There's a ton at http://www.mpeg.org/MPEG/bitstreams.html under MPEG System Streams. Also I (and Amancio too I'm sure) would be interested as to whether you can lock up your system breaking out of play apps. As I recall, I was using mpg123 on an MPEG L2 or L3 audio file, let it play for a sec and then Ctrl-C -- didn't take but a few to freeze my box. I'll also pull guspnp8 soon and retest with it. Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 9 16:38:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA19731 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 16:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA19719 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 16:37:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:37:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05163; Wed, 9 Jul 97 19:37:19 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA00163; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:35:26 -0400 Message-Id: <19970709193526.25426@ct.picker.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:35:26 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Amancio Hasty Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: guspnp8 driver release References: <199707060830.BAA00724@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 In-Reply-To: <199707060830.BAA00724@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Sun, Jul 06, 1997 at 01:30:53AM -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amancio Hasty: |GUSPNP8 7/6/97 |This sound driver is for FreeBSD 3.0-current. ... |Bugs fixed: |1. Aborting a process with CTL-C would sometimes cause the driver to | go in an infinite loop. |ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/guspnp.tar.gz Sounds good! I'll pull it shortly and give it a whirl. Now that it'll build for more than GUS cards, maybe we could rename the package for the next version :-) I say that partially in jest, but also because it'll mislead non-GUS users to thinking that this driver doesn't support their card -- scare off those helpful beta-testers, you know. Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 9 17:43:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA25717 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 17:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA25711 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 17:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 20:41:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05897; Wed, 9 Jul 97 20:41:54 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA00249; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 20:40:01 -0400 Message-Id: <19970709204001.59469@ct.picker.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 20:40:01 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: tomppa@fidata.fi Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New TV toy/Fxtv problems References: <199707070908.MAA25114@zeta.fidata.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=UTqETQ0mS9luUI9z X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 In-Reply-To: <199707070908.MAA25114@zeta.fidata.fi>; from Tomi Vainio on Mon, Jul 07, 1997 at 12:08:09PM +0300 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk --UTqETQ0mS9luUI9z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Tomi Vainio: |I got bt848.970604.tgz and fxtv-0.43.tgz to play with. I use |-inputFormat pal and -antennaFreqSet weurope options in Fxtv. System |seems to work quite fine. I haven't seen any real problems or lockups |that someone has mentioned here. Though I have some minor problems. | |- No picture on startup size fxtv. I have to zoom or resize window |first. It's difficult to find working resolution when resizing |window. Zoom button works fine but then window is too big. Hmmm. This could be either a SETGEO or SETVIDEO ioctl failing (my SETGEO printf was wrong). I you run fxtv in an xterm, do you see something like: ioctl(METEORSVIDEO, -272641448) failed: Invalid argument ? Also, please apply the patch below in your fxtv-0.43 directory. It'll dump in detail what capture parameters are being attempted each time the window is resized. Please note a few combinations that work and a few that don't work. This should help get a line on the problem. As far as the driver/fxtv is concerned, you should be able to stretch to any size up to 768x576 for PAL. Internally, the width and height must be multiples of 2, but fxtv takes care of this for you when you manually resize the window by dropping a pixel of width/height if it needs to. (It doesn't do this for the startup window geometry I just noticed; it ought to though--just added this to my "FIXME" list). |- Picture is more mpeg-like mosaic and fuzzier in Fxtv than in W95 |software. Interesting. I don't remember noticing this with NTSC. Wonder if the PAL tuning isn't locked on. Guido van Rooij mailed me his AFC patch to fxtv (to use the Auto-Freq Tuning in the driver) which I'll put in 0.44. Hopefully that'll help your picture clarity. For testing purposes, the attached patch also contains a hacked-in snip that unconditionally enables AFC. See if that makes a difference. |- I get bktr0: ioctl: tsleep error 35 1000d74 messages to syslog You'll get this when a single-frame capture (aka CAP_SINGLE, or freeze frame) fails. This occurs when the driver timed-out waiting on 1 or 2 fields to complete capture, and so it couldn't assemble the frame. Where I've seen it happen is when the tuner isn't in complete sync with the video (on weak channels the tuner can sometimes drift off frequency a little). AFC will probably help you with this one as well. |- Zooming doesn't work at all with Xaccel. I get immedimmediately: |pid 486 (fxtv), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped). I haven't |seen any picture with Xaccel. I think I remember reading that Xaccel doesn't support the XFree DGA and VidMode extensions, which fxtv is linked with and uses. Please try these things on Xaccel and let me know how how each works out: 1) fxtv -disableDirectV 2) Try this: > gdb fxtv (gdb) run -synchronous Program received signal SIGSEGV (gdb) where I'm interested in whether there's something simple I can do for an XFree-built fxtv binary running on Xaccel so it'll work or will at least print something meaningful. Output of the above will help. 3) I'm not sure fxtv will even build using the Xaccel includes and libs (i.e. no XFree includes/libs) because of the extensions. Please try it. Thanks, Randall --UTqETQ0mS9luUI9z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="fxtv-0.43.dbg.patch" --- fxtv-0.43-dist/tvcapture.c Fri Jun 6 20:52:29 1997 +++ tvcapture.c Wed Jul 9 20:33:38 1997 @@ -1470,16 +1470,25 @@ c->addr = (TV_UINT32) video.addr; + printf( "VIDEO = { addr 0x%.8x, width %d, banksize %d, ramsize %d }\n", + video.addr, video.width, video.banksize, video.ramsize ); if ( ioctl( c->fd, METEORSVIDEO, &video ) < 0 ) { DO_IOCTL_SERR( "METEORSVIDEO", &video ); return; } + printf( "GEOM = { %dx%d, frames %d, oformat 0x%.8x }\n", + geom.columns, geom.rows, geom.frames, geom.oformat ); if ( ioctl( c->fd, METEORSETGEO, &geom ) < 0 ) { - DO_IOCTL_SERR( "METEORSVIDEO", &geom ); + DO_IOCTL_SERR( "METEORSGEO", &geom ); return; } if ( ioctl( c->fd, METEORSACTPIXFMT, &pix_geom.index ) < 0 ) { DO_IOCTL_SERR( "METEORSACTPIXFMT", &geom ); + return; + } + larg = 1; + if ( ioctl( c->tfd, TVTUNER_SETAFC, &larg ) < 0 ) { + DO_IOCTL_SERR( "TVTUNER_SETAFC", larg ); return; } --UTqETQ0mS9luUI9z-- From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 9 18:00:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA26513 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 18:00:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA26495 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 18:00:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 20:59:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06148; Wed, 9 Jul 97 20:59:31 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA00279; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 20:57:38 -0400 Message-Id: <19970709205737.44250@ct.picker.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 20:57:37 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Petri Helenius Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Miromedia PC/TV References: <199707081253.PAA18299@silver.sms.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 In-Reply-To: <199707081253.PAA18299@silver.sms.fi>; from Petri Helenius on Tue, Jul 08, 1997 at 03:53:40PM +0300 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Petri Helenius: | I'm trying to use Miromedia's PC/TV on with the latest bt848 driver |that is from the same site than the fxtv application. For simplicity |I'm feeding it PAL input into the composite video connector. It seems |that for some reason it's running in NTSC mode anyway, that is the |picture is very distorted and without colors. | |Anyone have ideas what to try? Though I think the bt848 supports it, fxtv/the driver don't support auto tuner signal input format detection. You can specify the signal format and frequency standards to fxtv though. For testing, use command-line options ("-help" shows them all), and once you get what you want, put these in the Fxtv resource file. E.g. for starters: fxtv -inputFormat pal -antennaFreqSet weurope -tunerMode antenna Hope this helps. Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 9 18:19:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA27160 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 18:19:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA27155 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 18:19:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.8.5/8.7.3) id EAA24522; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 04:18:50 +0300 (EEST) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 04:18:50 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <199707100118.EAA24522@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: Randall Hopper Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Miromedia PC/TV In-Reply-To: <19970709205737.44250@ct.picker.com> References: <199707081253.PAA18299@silver.sms.fi> <19970709205737.44250@ct.picker.com> Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Randall Hopper writes: > Petri Helenius: > | I'm trying to use Miromedia's PC/TV on with the latest bt848 driver > |that is from the same site than the fxtv application. For simplicity > |I'm feeding it PAL input into the composite video connector. It seems > |that for some reason it's running in NTSC mode anyway, that is the > |picture is very distorted and without colors. > | > |Anyone have ideas what to try? > > Though I think the bt848 supports it, fxtv/the driver don't support auto > tuner signal input format detection. You can specify the signal format and > frequency standards to fxtv though. > > For testing, use command-line options ("-help" shows them all), and once > you get what you want, put these in the Fxtv resource file. E.g. for > starters: > > fxtv -inputFormat pal -antennaFreqSet weurope -tunerMode antenna > By helpful hand of tomppa@fidata.fi I tried this already and it didn't change the behaviour. However in the win95 land I get this card working "fine" (as can be expected for that environment :-) So there must be something different with the Miro card the driver/fxtv overlooks compared to hauppauge which works better. So my options practically are (in no special preference): - return the cards and get the hauppauge ones - work with you and get the MIRO specifics of the driver straight I'm tracking 3.0-current on the box I'm playing with the card and I'm not doing any "real" work with it (yet) so it's easy to reboot/etc frequently. Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 9 18:19:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA27235 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 18:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA27228 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 18:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 21:18:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06402; Wed, 9 Jul 97 21:18:31 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA00352; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 21:16:36 -0400 Message-Id: <19970709211636.38582@ct.picker.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 21:16:36 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Bernie Doehner Cc: Volker Freiburg , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dual PPro & Bt848 References: <19970709071258.25557@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 In-Reply-To: ; from Bernie Doehner on Wed, Jul 09, 1997 at 08:53:49AM -0400 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Bernie Doehner: |> Volker Freiburg: |> |Sounds good, this is one of the boards on my list. Has anybody got it to |> |work with a S3 ViRGE card in directV mode? |> |> I have been running it on an S3 Virge/VX (STB Velocity 3D 4Meg VRAM) with |> XFree 3.2A and 3.3; good card and solid drivers. Ken Stox has the same |> card. I think Bernie's got a Diamond Stealth 3D 2000 on his 486, which is |> an S3 Virge (DRAM-based). So you've got company there. | |Actualy mine is EDO based.. But I still have a few problems.. Mostly: Oh, so you have the Stealth 3D 2000 Pro? Seems like that's the Virge/DX, isn't it? |1. Flicker - (new problem). Now I have pretty bad flicker in X. Don't |really understand it because I think the refresh rate is 85 Hz. and I am |not interlaced and not exceeding the monitor specs. Hmmm. Is this just in the TV window or is this the whole screen? If the former, does it happen when you -disableDirectV? If the latter, 1) does this happen all the time or just when the TV is on? 2) does xvidtune confirm 85Hz? 3) you said you checked, but might double-check that it's not 42.5Hz interlaced you're seeing. |2. Wincast will still ocasionaly hangs with IDE timeouts. By far not as |bad as before, but still happens.. BUT, I discovered something that might |have been causing me problems. I was IRQ sharing between my ethernet and |video card. I am trying to get a Digiboard so that I can free up some of |my IRQ's. Nuts, from your previous comments I thought we had that licked on your 486. Well, at least you can do ximages and the CPU load isn't heavy anymore. As Amancio's mentioned, this sounds like a MB chipset issue. Since the Windoze S/W works for you, there's evidently something that can be done, but it might be a difficult find. It's interesting though that all the Pentium+ MBs don't see this particular problem. Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 9 18:44:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA28346 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 18:44:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uhf.wdc.net (uhf.wdc.net [198.147.74.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA28341 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 18:44:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wdc.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA00629; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 21:45:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 21:45:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Doehner X-Sender: bad@uhf.wdc.net To: Randall Hopper cc: Volker Freiburg , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dual PPro & Bt848 In-Reply-To: <19970709211636.38582@ct.picker.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > |Actualy mine is EDO based.. But I still have a few problems.. Mostly: > > Oh, so you have the Stealth 3D 2000 Pro? Seems like that's the Virge/DX, > isn't it? Can't check right now, but that sounds familiar (the DX part). > |1. Flicker - (new problem). Now I have pretty bad flicker in X. Don't > |really understand it because I think the refresh rate is 85 Hz. and I am > |not interlaced and not exceeding the monitor specs. > > Hmmm. Is this just in the TV window or is this the whole screen? latter.. Unfortunately. > If the former, > does it happen when you -disableDirectV? > If the latter, > 1) does this happen all the time or just when the TV is on? All the time. > 2) does xvidtune confirm 85Hz? Learn something new every day (ever think about teaching a class in configuring X windows ?). It's actualy 75.94 Hz., Horizontal Sync 62.5 kHz, Pixel Clock: 85 MHz. This is within the monitor's spec. > 3) you said you checked, but might double-check that it's not 42.5Hz > interlaced you're seeing. I guess not.. Although it reminds me of my Amiga's 640x480 interlaced screen. > |2. Wincast will still ocasionaly hangs with IDE timeouts. By far not as > |bad as before, but still happens.. BUT, I discovered something that might > |have been causing me problems. I was IRQ sharing between my ethernet and > |video card. I am trying to get a Digiboard so that I can free up some of > |my IRQ's. > > Nuts, from your previous comments I thought we had that licked on your 486. Yea.. well, only if you run at maximum resolution for very long time.. Like 60 minutes, which I don't routinely do. Also I discovered that in the past (before I shoved the cards around), the PCI network card and S3 Virge card were sharing an interrupt. I am not sure if interrupts are even used in DMA on the PC.. I didn't think so, but I am not a PC programmer. I just know that on my Hitachi boards the DMA controller can generate an end of transfer interrupt. Also, I currently have no video.. Audio only, but I probably screwed something up in the recently reorganization. > Well, at least you can do ximages and the CPU load isn't heavy anymore. Yes, and full screen res is stable (with the exception of the rare hangs). > As > Amancio's mentioned, this sounds like a MB chipset issue. Since the > Windoze S/W works for you, there's evidently something that can be done, > but it might be a difficult find. It's interesting though that all the > Pentium+ MBs don't see this particular problem. > You are talking to/about Volker here. No windows loaded here. Bernie From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 9 19:28:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA00396 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:28:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA00350 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 22:26:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07430; Wed, 9 Jul 97 22:26:40 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA00480; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 22:24:44 -0400 Message-Id: <19970709222444.41185@ct.picker.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 22:24:44 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Amancio Hasty , Charles Henrich , Tony Kimball Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vat on sb16? References: <19970709105848.60794@crh.cl.msu.edu> <199707091621.JAA16772@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 In-Reply-To: <199707091621.JAA16772@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Wed, Jul 09, 1997 at 09:21:21AM -0700 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk (...catching up on this thread:) Agree that SB cards aren't good for audio conferencing, but if you're not into that in a big way, a soundcard buyer is hard pressed to find a class of cards with better all-around support in most OSs. With a SB32/AWE32 getting you SB16's 16-bit 44Khz Stereo play/record + 32 chan wavetable synth for under $100 at a computer show, they're worth it. To the sounds bad comment, some do, some don't. Like all products with multiple models, you research them all and then pick-n-choose. It's well known that the original SB16 chipset has DSP noise problems. However its also well known that the Vibra16 replacement for this chipset has no such problems. The latter's what's on my SB32 non-PnP, and I have no complaints about its play or record quality up to and including 44KHz 16-bit Stereo. Regarding the SB16 full-duplex issue, (yes I'm an e-mail pack-rat :-), attached is a thread bite from Dec 1995 where Hannu mentioned it can be done with 8-bit one direction and 16-bit in the other, or with DMA one way and programmed I/O in the other. He might not have known what he was talking about--I don't know him personally. But if he did, the Windoze drivers could be using one of these two techniques. Would one or the other of these two be practical to implement in our sound drivers? The latter sounds like it might be completely transparent to the client. Randall Amancio Hasty: |Charles Henrich: | |Amancio Hasty: | | | |> You really don't want a SB thingie for audio conferencing. | |... | |> The SB thingies have two main problems lack of full duplex dma and | |> a decent clock. | | | |Yea its crap, but its most widely available. :) And the SB16 works great | |under windows | |They just simply sound bad . Ask John Dyson he just recently got a | |Mine sounds just peachy playing back mpeg audio streams. | |Tony Kimball: | |There are full-duplex windows drivers for the SB16. Do they fake it? | |There was once some talk of a Linux full-duplex driver but (to my | |knowledge) it got nowhere because supposedly Hannu was doing it. | |(This was before the commercialization of OSS.) Does anyone know: | |Did full-duplex SB support make it into OSS? | |As far as I know the SB thingies don't have fully functionable |full duplex dma. The Windows driver fake it. To: Stephen Hocking Cc: multimedia@rah.star-gate.com, hannu@voxware.pp.fi Subject: Re: Conceptual difficulties with new sound driver Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 00:51:16 -0800 From: "Amancio Hasty Jr." >>> Stephen Hocking said: > I'm having a bit of a problem trying to reconcile some new ways of doing > things that the new driver introduces. To wit, the idea of full duplex > audio being done off the same device file. This is a bit of problem, as > a number of cards capable of full duplex audio do so by having their own > wonderful device, plus a sound blaster emulation (usually of dubious > quality) on the same card. > > One then can use one for input & one for output. > > The problem with hanging these off the one device file is that they > usually have vastly differing capabilities. Take for example the > PAS16. Its native chipset can do stereo 16bit 44KHz, but the > Thunderboard SB emulation chipset also on the card can only reliably do > mono 8bit 12KHz. Things get worse for the full duplex changes I intend > introducing for the SB16. In this mode, one channel has to stay at > 16bits and the other has to stay at 8 bits. With device semantics like > this we either have to restructure to ioctl calls or use different > device files for input & output. Okay, I admit that there are problems with the new sound driver with respect to supporting legacy sound cards . Having two devices to do input and output confuses the hell out of people not to say the little changes that he have to do to software when we are porting from other systems such as Sun or Sgi --- yes there are other changes that one usually has to do ... I am forwarding this mail to Hannu cause he is going to be bumping against the same sort problems and who knows maybe someone on the linux camp has it sorted out. At any rate , is worth asking. We should be grateful that there is at least a way of doing full duplex to the SB16! Okay let me get off my soap box cause I think that we are making good progress in this arena. Hannu's email: Hannu Savolainen Date: Sat, 30 Dec 1995 19:24:52 +0200 (EET) From: Hannu Savolainen X-Sender: hannu@voxware To: "Amancio Hasty Jr." Cc: Stephen Hocking , multimedia@rah.star-gate.com Subject: Re: Conceptual difficulties with new sound driver On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, Amancio Hasty Jr. wrote: > I am forwarding this mail to Hannu cause he is going to be bumping > against the same sort problems and who knows maybe someone on the linux > camp has it sorted out. At any rate , is worth asking. We should be > grateful that there is at least a way of doing full duplex to the SB16! There are actually two ways to do full duplex with SB16. The first one uses 8 bit to one direction and 16 bits to another. The second method uses DMA to one direction and programmed I/O to the other. Both methods are completely brain dead and will never be supported by VoxWare. The only way to do full duplex audio with VoxWare is to use a card that has full duplex capability. Currently just some CS4231 based cards such as GUS MAX and AudioTriX Pro have this capability. The plain old GUS has full duplex capability too. Hannu ----------------------------- Hannu Savolainen http://personal.eunet.fi/pp/voxware/hannu.html (my home page) http://personal.eunet.fi/pp/voxware (VoxWare's home page) From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 9 19:39:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA01091 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:39:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA01086 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:39:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA00312; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:39:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707100239.TAA00312@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Charles Henrich cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vat on sb16? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 09 Jul 1997 15:12:57 EDT." <19970709151257.47123@crh.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 19:39:14 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Well, I am glad that you are happy with your SB thingie. I had a SB 16 a couple of years ago and lasted less than a week in my system. But hey, if you like the card and it sounds good thats great . Honest! Enjoy, Amancio >From The Desk Of Charles Henrich : > On the subject of Re: vat on sb16?, Amancio Hasty stated: > > > They just simply sound bad . Ask John Dyson he just recently got a > > Mine sounds just peachy playing back mpeg audio streams. > > -Crh > > Charles Henrich Michigan State University henrich@msu.edu > > http://pilot.msu.edu/~henrich From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 9 19:50:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA01553 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:50:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crackhouse.res.cmu.edu (CRACKHOUSE.RES.CMU.EDU [128.2.99.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA01544 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 19:50:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (badger@localhost) by crackhouse.res.cmu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA00644 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 22:47:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 22:47:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "Thomas A. Drake Jr" To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: sb16 problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hi. i have a soundblaster16 that came with a factor standard Dell Ppro200 i have configured my kernel just as it is in LINT. the card output sound, but the volume is so low that is it can hardly be heard. i have used mixer to up the volume to 100:100.. still the volume is low. is there any way to fix this, or do i need another card? thanks. tad From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 9 20:14:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA02936 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 20:14:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA02930 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 20:14:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id EAA05067; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 04:08:52 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199707100208.EAA05067@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: vat on sb16? To: rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 04:08:52 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, henrich@crh.cl.msu.edu, Anthony.Kimball@East.Sun.COM, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19970709222444.41185@ct.picker.com> from "Randall Hopper" at Jul 9, 97 10:24:25 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Regarding the SB16 full-duplex issue, (yes I'm an e-mail pack-rat :-), ... > Would one or the other of these two be practical to implement in our sound > drivers? The latter sounds like it might be completely transparent to the why one should do that since mss cards (based on the OPTi931, or some other AD1884-type codec) are sold for US$30 here (that's including 19% VAT!) and they support full duplex. Cheers Luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 9 20:27:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA03489 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 20:27:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA03484 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 20:27:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA01332; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 20:27:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707100327.UAA01332@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Bernie Doehner cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: how many irq's? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 09 Jul 1997 15:46:56 EDT." <199707091946.PAA00492@uhf.wdc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 20:27:06 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Well you only need one IRQ for the GUS cards at least to do the sound stuff record, playback, midi, etc.. There are other irqs for interfacing to a CDROM however we don't use them. Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Bernie Doehner : > Hi: > > If I end up with a irq sharing serial port card, I'll have 3 irq's of which > 1 will be going to a SCSI controller. That leaves 2 irq's for > a sound card. Do both the Audiotrix and the GUS PnP work with only 2 IRQ's? > > Thanks. > > Bernie From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 9 20:28:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA03587 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 20:28:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA03581 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 20:28:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA01352; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 20:28:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707100328.UAA01352@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Denis DeLaRoca cc: Charles Henrich , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vat on sb16? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 09 Jul 1997 12:09:00 PDT." <199707091909.MAA01618@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 20:28:28 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Please explain your hesitation to migrate to FreeBSD-3.0 current? I have been running -current for the last 6 months. Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Denis DeLaRoca : > On Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:19:19 -0400, > Charles Henrich said: > > > which is just a straight compile of vat from > > > ftp://ftp.ee.lbl.gov/conferencing/vat > > > > It clips a ton :(. > > With an also cheapie proAudioSpectrum-16, I get good results... though, > as with all half-duplex cards Vat's timing is off and every so often > you get a clip when flushing its audio playback buffer. The PAS-16 > cards, if you can get a used one, is much better than the wretched > SB cards. > > I keep wanting to migrate to a Gus PnP Pro, but Amancio's driver really > wants FreeBSD 3.0 current -- I wish it were kept completely downward > compatible to FreeBSD 2.2.2. > > -- Denis > > > > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jul 9 23:45:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA10376 for multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 23:45:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA10371 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 23:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA04641; Wed, 9 Jul 1997 23:45:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707100645.XAA04641@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: "Thomas A. Drake Jr" cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sb16 problems In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 09 Jul 1997 22:47:41 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 23:45:10 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dumb question , are you listening on the audio line out ? Try a different audio out channel. Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of "Thomas A. Drake Jr" : > hi. > > i have a soundblaster16 that came with a factor standard Dell Ppro200 > > i have configured my kernel just as it is in LINT. > > the card output sound, but the volume is so low that is it can hardly be > heard. i have used mixer to up the volume to 100:100.. still the volume is > low. > > is there any way to fix this, or do i need another card? > > thanks. > > tad > > > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jul 10 00:52:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA13627 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 00:52:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fsnif.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (root@fsnif.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de [134.147.176.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA13614 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 00:52:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bochum.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (volker@zol.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de [134.147.176.24]) by fsnif.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id JAA21755; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 09:52:02 +0200 (MET DST) To: Bernie Doehner Cc: Randall Hopper , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dual PPro & Bt848 References: From: Volker Freiburg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: 10 Jul 1997 09:48:34 +0200 In-Reply-To: Bernie Doehner's message of Wed, 9 Jul 1997 21:45:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Lines: 36 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In the meantime, I tested the Crystal 3D and the Stealth 2000. Might be of interest to some of you. Both work with the Hauppauge card using XFree3.3. Testbed was an old ASUS SP3G motherboard and a PCchips M537 (don't beat me for the latter ;-). While the ASUS works fine in full 768x576 the M537 locks up quite fast even in single field 384x288 mode with little other pci traffic. Bernie Doehner writes: > > Also I discovered that in the >past (before I shoved the cards around), the PCI network card and S3 >Virge card were sharing an interrupt. I am not sure if interrupts are even >used in DMA on the PC.. I didn't think so, but I am not a PC programmer. Interesting, does XFree make use of the video IRQ and what are the benefits? By now, I always configured PCI video cards with no IRQ. >Randall Hopper writes: >> As >> Amancio's mentioned, this sounds like a MB chipset issue. Since the >> Windoze S/W works for you, there's evidently something that can be done, >> but it might be a difficult find. It's interesting though that all the >> Pentium+ MBs don't see this particular problem. >> > As I mentioned above, there are some Pentium MB's which do not work well. The one I tested was probably the worsest I could get :-(. But if I understand right from all the information I have now, any 440FX based Dual PPro MB should do me, concerning my original question. -- Regards, -Volker Freiburg- From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jul 10 02:45:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA19425 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 02:45:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA19412 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 02:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prix7 (aspr1.pr.infn.it [192.135.11.31]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA26019 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 02:44:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prix7 by ASPR1 with TCP/IP SMTP; Thu, 10 JUL 97 11:08 MET Received: from prix7 by prix7 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA28807; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 11:11:02 +0200 Message-ID: <33C4A725.2FBB@prix7.pr.infn.it> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 11:11:01 +0200 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Denis Comelli Subject: i2c paraphernalia Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'd like to get the file TV400.exe from your site: http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/HomeAuto/files/ the problem is that netscape aborts erratically the download also after 1 day of activity (most of the time stalled). I run netscape 3.0 from a unix workstation 24 hours up. If you have an ftp site to try or if you have some other site to grab it i'll be very glad. :-) Thank you in advance Emanuele Masola v Molossi 6 43100 Parma Italy Email comelli@prix7.fis.unipr.it Ps the i2c link doesn' t work properly ************************************* Info on the I2C bus ******************************************************** From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jul 10 03:26:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA23844 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 03:26:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA23806 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 03:26:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 6:25:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14550; Thu, 10 Jul 97 06:25:41 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id GAA01086; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 06:23:46 -0400 Message-Id: <19970710062345.43877@ct.picker.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 06:23:45 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Petri Helenius Cc: Steve Passe , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Miromedia PC/TV References: <199707081253.PAA18299@silver.sms.fi> <19970709205737.44250@ct.picker.com> <199707100118.EAA24522@silver.sms.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 In-Reply-To: <199707100118.EAA24522@silver.sms.fi>; from Petri Helenius on Thu, Jul 10, 1997 at 04:18:50AM +0300 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Petri Helenius: | > Petri Helenius: | > | I'm trying to use Miromedia's PC/TV on with the latest bt848 driver | > |that is from the same site than the fxtv application. For simplicity | > |I'm feeding it PAL input into the composite video connector. It seems | > |that for some reason it's running in NTSC mode anyway, that is the | > |picture is very distorted and without colors. | > | | > |Anyone have ideas what to try? | > | > fxtv -inputFormat pal -antennaFreqSet weurope -tunerMode antenna | > |By helpful hand of tomppa@fidata.fi I tried this already and it didn't |change the behaviour. However in the win95 land I get this card |working "fine" (as can be expected for that environment :-) | |So there must be something different with the Miro card the |driver/fxtv overlooks compared to hauppauge which works better. | |So my options practically are (in no special preference): |- return the cards and get the hauppauge ones |- work with you and get the MIRO specifics of the driver straight | |I'm tracking 3.0-current on the box I'm playing with the card and I'm |not doing any "real" work with it (yet) so it's easy to reboot/etc frequently. Steve Passe's the tuner expert. Maybe he can lend a hand or offer some advice on which of the options you mentioned would be best. It seems that the driver might have some problems with your tuning standard. The tuner standard support is implemented in the driver, with fxtv just acting as a pass-through for channel numbers and frequency standard names. Out of curiousity, have you tried plugging a PAL VCR up to the RCA jacks (I don't know if the PAL WinTV has these or not; the NTSC Wincast does)? I'm curious if the capture part works well with an external tuner in place. Be sure to select the Video input instead of Tuner. Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jul 10 03:35:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA25024 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 03:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA25015 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 03:35:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 6:34:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14667; Thu, 10 Jul 97 06:34:41 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id GAA01105; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 06:32:47 -0400 Message-Id: <19970710063247.59187@ct.picker.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 06:32:47 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Volker Freiburg Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dual PPro & Bt848 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 In-Reply-To: ; from Volker Freiburg on Thu, Jul 10, 1997 at 09:48:34AM +0200 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Volker Freiburg: |In the meantime, I tested the Crystal 3D and the Stealth 2000. |Might be of interest to some of you. Both work with the |Hauppauge card using XFree3.3. Testbed was an old ASUS SP3G |motherboard and a PCchips M537 (don't beat me for the latter |;-). While the ASUS works fine in full 768x576 the M537 locks |up quite fast even in single field 384x288 mode with little |other pci traffic. ... |As I mentioned above, there are some Pentium MB's which do not |work well. The one I tested was probably the worsest I could get :-(. | |But if I understand right from all the information I have now, any |440FX based Dual PPro MB should do me, concerning my original question. Thanks, that's interesting info. BTW, the Triton II (440HX) and Triton I should also work well. I currently run my Hauppauge on an ASUS P55T2P4 and was running a P55TP4XE before that; upgraded for the faster bus and CPU support. Randy From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jul 10 03:45:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA25322 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 03:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA25308 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 03:44:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 6:43:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14864; Thu, 10 Jul 97 06:43:02 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id GAA01113; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 06:41:05 -0400 Message-Id: <19970710064105.47517@ct.picker.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 06:41:05 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Luigi Rizzo Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vat on sb16? References: <19970709222444.41185@ct.picker.com> <199707100208.EAA05067@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 In-Reply-To: <199707100208.EAA05067@labinfo.iet.unipi.it>; from Luigi Rizzo on Thu, Jul 10, 1997 at 04:08:52AM +0200 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Luigi Rizzo: |> Regarding the SB16 full-duplex issue, (yes I'm an e-mail pack-rat :-), |... |> Would one or the other of these two be practical to implement in our sound |> drivers? The latter sounds like it might be completely transparent to the | |why one should do that since mss cards (based on the OPTi931, or |some other AD1884-type codec) are sold for US$30 here (that's |including 19% VAT!) and they support full duplex. Well, its the most common class of card out there. I wonder how many users would switch over (or start off with) FreeBSD for doing their Internet phone and audio conferencing (Speak Freely, vat, etc.) if we supported their hardware in full-duplex. I could be wrong, but I think SB16+ owners are currently locked into MS Windoze for this; if I were them, I'd sure be looking for a way out :-) So, an opportunity to win over more users. It'd be a nice feature for the existing user base too, if it isn't technically impractical. Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jul 10 03:46:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA25365 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 03:46:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA25357 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 03:46:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.8.5/8.7.3) id NAA27877; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 13:46:08 +0300 (EEST) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 13:46:08 +0300 (EEST) Message-Id: <199707101046.NAA27877@silver.sms.fi> From: Petri Helenius To: Randall Hopper Cc: Steve Passe , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Miromedia PC/TV In-Reply-To: <19970710062345.43877@ct.picker.com> References: <199707081253.PAA18299@silver.sms.fi> <19970709205737.44250@ct.picker.com> <199707100118.EAA24522@silver.sms.fi> <19970710062345.43877@ct.picker.com> Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Randall Hopper writes: > > Steve Passe's the tuner expert. Maybe he can lend a hand or offer some > advice on which of the options you mentioned would be best. It seems that > the driver might have some problems with your tuning standard. The tuner > standard support is implemented in the driver, with fxtv just acting as a > pass-through for channel numbers and frequency standard names. > > Out of curiousity, have you tried plugging a PAL VCR up to the RCA jacks (I > don't know if the PAL WinTV has these or not; the NTSC Wincast does)? I'm > curious if the capture part works well with an external tuner in place. > Be sure to select the Video input instead of Tuner. > I originally told that I'm using the RCA video input, not the internal tuner at all. The same problem exists both with internal and external tuner.(the tuner works fine with my sparcstation composite video input) So it's not a tuner problem. Pete From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jul 10 03:58:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA25981 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 03:58:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA25975 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 03:58:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 6:57:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15059; Thu, 10 Jul 97 06:57:24 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id GAA01129; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 06:55:30 -0400 Message-Id: <19970710065529.57576@ct.picker.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 06:55:29 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Petri Helenius Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Miromedia PC/TV References: <199707081253.PAA18299@silver.sms.fi> <19970709205737.44250@ct.picker.com> <199707100118.EAA24522@silver.sms.fi> <19970710062345.43877@ct.picker.com> <199707101046.NAA27877@silver.sms.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 In-Reply-To: <199707101046.NAA27877@silver.sms.fi>; from Petri Helenius on Thu, Jul 10, 1997 at 01:46:08PM +0300 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Petri Helenius: |Randall Hopper writes: | > Out of curiousity, have you tried plugging a PAL VCR up to the RCA | > jacks (I don't know if the PAL WinTV has these or not; the NTSC | > Wincast does)? I'm curious if the capture part works well with an | > external tuner in place. Be sure to select the Video input instead of | > Tuner. | |I originally told that I'm using the RCA video input, not the internal |tuner at all. The same problem exists both with internal and external |tuner.(the tuner works fine with my sparcstation composite video input) | |So it's not a tuner problem. Ok. You mentioned "composite video connector", and for some reason the tuner input clicked in my mind. Sorry about that. Randy From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jul 10 04:33:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA27179 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 04:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA27172 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 04:33:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from East.Sun.COM ([129.148.1.241]) by mercury.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/mail.byaddr) with SMTP id EAA16750; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 04:59:54 -0700 Received: from suneast.East.Sun.COM by East.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-5.3) id HAA25854; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 07:33:04 -0400 Received: from compound.east.sun.com by suneast.East.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA09118; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 07:33:04 -0400 Received: (from alk@localhost) by compound.east.sun.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id GAA00304; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 06:32:56 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 06:32:56 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: Anthony.Kimball@East.Sun.COM Message-Id: <199707101132.GAA00304@compound.east.sun.com> From: Tony Kimball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vat on sb16? References: <199707091909.MAA01618@hub.freebsd.org> <199707100328.UAA01352@rah.star-gate.com> X-Face: O9M"E%K;(f-Go/XDxL+pCxI5*gr[=FN@Y`cl1.Tn Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Quoth Amancio Hasty on Wed, 9 July: : Please explain your hesitation to migrate to FreeBSD-3.0 current? : : I have been running -current for the last 6 months. : Dunno about Denis, but you might be interested in my data-point: I am stuck at 2.2.1 because the ie0 driver hangs me. I have an EtherExpress16. I was thinking of porting the 2.2.1 ix0 driver to current, though. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jul 10 04:46:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA27814 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 04:46:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.ukrv.de (gatekeeper.ukrv.de [193.175.72.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA27804 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 04:45:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gatekeeper.ukrv.de; (5.65/1.1.8.2/17Oct95-0336PM) id AA19974; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 13:45:10 +0200 Received: from mailhost(193.175.66.33) by gatekeeper.ukrv.de via smap (V1.3-JSC) id sma007954; Thu Jul 10 13:45:09 1997 Received: from merlin.ukrv.de by mailhost.ukrv.de; (5.65/1.1.8.2/08Mar95-0213PM) id AA20764; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 13:45:09 +0200 Received: by merlin.ukrv.de (4.1/UKRV-Gen PCG 0.1) id AA08137; Thu, 10 Jul 97 13:45:08 +0200 From: Udo Wolter Message-Id: <9707101145.AA08137@merlin.ukrv.de> Subject: Re: sb16 problems In-Reply-To: <199707100645.XAA04641@rah.star-gate.com> from Amancio Hasty at "Jul 9, 97 11:45:10 pm" To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 13:45:08 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: badger@crackhouse.res.cmu.edu, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Dumb question , are you listening on the audio line out ? > Try a different audio out channel. > > >From The Desk Of "Thomas A. Drake Jr" : > > hi. > > > > i have a soundblaster16 that came with a factor standard Dell Ppro200 > > > > i have configured my kernel just as it is in LINT. > > > > the card output sound, but the volume is so low that is it can hardly be > > heard. i have used mixer to up the volume to 100:100.. still the volume is > > low. > > > > is there any way to fix this, or do i need another card? This is no dumb question. I have a cheap SB16 clone which has 3 jacks: Line In, Mic, Line Out. No Speaker ! So I HAVE to use Line Out. Anyway, I'm using xmmix to get all the gain up to the top. It's a little bit louder. If you want it really loud you must plug in active boxes or your home stereo. Bye, Udo -- Udo Wolter, email: uwp@cs.tu-berlin.de !!! LOW-TECH Page: http://low-tech.home.ml.org !!! From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jul 10 08:32:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA07721 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 08:32:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crackhouse.res.cmu.edu (CRACKHOUSE.RES.CMU.EDU [128.2.99.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA07716 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 08:32:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (badger@localhost) by crackhouse.res.cmu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA01697; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 11:29:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 11:29:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Thomas A. Drake Jr" To: Udo Wolter cc: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sb16 problems In-Reply-To: <9707101145.AA08137@merlin.ukrv.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ok.. i've had everything hooked up right.. i used xmix to up the volume.. still. when i run the sound through my stereo.. there is hardly any sound when what i have the stereo volume turned all the wayu up.. er.. does anyone have any other ideas, because i am predicating getting a new card very soon.. thanks. tad > > Dumb question , are you listening on the audio line out ? > > Try a different audio out channel. > > > > >From The Desk Of "Thomas A. Drake Jr" : > > > hi. > > > > > > i have a soundblaster16 that came with a factor standard Dell Ppro200 > > > > > > i have configured my kernel just as it is in LINT. > > > > > > the card output sound, but the volume is so low that is it can hardly be > > > heard. i have used mixer to up the volume to 100:100.. still the volume is > > > low. > > > > > > is there any way to fix this, or do i need another card? > > This is no dumb question. I have a cheap SB16 clone which has 3 jacks: > > Line In, Mic, Line Out. No Speaker ! > > So I HAVE to use Line Out. Anyway, I'm using xmmix to get all the gain > up to the top. It's a little bit louder. If you want it really loud > you must plug in active boxes or your home stereo. > > Bye, > Udo > > -- > Udo Wolter, email: uwp@cs.tu-berlin.de > !!! LOW-TECH Page: http://low-tech.home.ml.org !!! > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jul 10 09:00:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA08726 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 09:00:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA08671 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 08:59:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id QAA05891; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 16:51:48 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199707101451.QAA05891@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Sound Blaster Patch for Voxware 3.5 Driver To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 16:51:48 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: rhh@ct.picker.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199706291746.KAA04464@rah.star-gate.com> from "Amancio Hasty" at Jun 29, 97 10:46:30 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have the guspnp8 stuff -- in sound_pnp.c, there is a reference to a linux include file #include which is not part of the 2.2 distribution , nor in the CVS source tree. In the first place I would like to replace this include file with the (experimental, but FreebSD) include file for pnp support. For the time being, though, can you point me to a version of this linux/pnp.h stuff so that I can merge in the relevant parts ? Thanks Luigi From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jul 10 09:07:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA09014 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 09:07:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA09008 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 09:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01187; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 09:06:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707101606.JAA01187@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Luigi Rizzo cc: rhh@ct.picker.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sound Blaster Patch for Voxware 3.5 Driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 10 Jul 1997 16:51:48 +0200." <199707101451.QAA05891@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 09:06:38 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, The reference to pnp.h is in sound_pnp.c which is currently not being use so we can do whatever we want with sound_pnp.c . Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Luigi Rizzo : > I have the guspnp8 stuff -- in sound_pnp.c, there is a reference to a > linux include file > > #include > > which is not part of the 2.2 distribution , nor in the CVS source tree. > > In the first place I would like to replace this include file with the > (experimental, but FreebSD) include file for pnp support. For the time > being, though, can you point me to a version of this linux/pnp.h stuff > so that I can merge in the relevant parts ? > > Thanks > Luigi From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jul 10 09:55:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA11684 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 09:55:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11675 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 09:55:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01497; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 09:54:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707101654.JAA01497@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Randall Hopper cc: Luigi Rizzo , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vat on sb16? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 10 Jul 1997 06:41:05 EDT." <19970710064105.47517@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 09:54:16 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Randall Hopper : > are currently locked into MS Windoze for this; if I were them, I'd sure be > looking for a way out :-) So, an opportunity to win over more users. > > It'd be a nice feature for the existing user base too, if it isn't > technically impractical. > Hi, Basically, we need someone or a couple of hackers to tackle the problem. My story line with the SB thingies , I dont like them;nevertheless, if someone or several individuals takes charge of supporting the SB cards thats fine with me. Last but not least I expect many more experts on SB cards than on lets say the GUS,.i.e., if I suspect that the technology is main stream and that there are others which can provide the support I won't do it. Cheers, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jul 10 10:26:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA13258 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 10:26:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uhf.wdc.net (uhf.4d.net [207.137.157.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA13252 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 10:26:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wdc.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA04067; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 13:24:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 13:24:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Doehner X-Sender: bad@uhf.wdc.net To: Luigi Rizzo cc: Amancio Hasty , rhh@ct.picker.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sound Blaster Patch for Voxware 3.5 Driver In-Reply-To: <199707101451.QAA05891@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > I have the guspnp8 stuff -- in sound_pnp.c, there is a reference to a > linux include file > > #include Sorry. Can't find it in the standard Linux 2.0.27 kernel sources. I thought voxware was part of the LInux kernel? Bernie From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jul 10 10:30:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA13469 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 10:30:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (Ilsa.StevesCafe.com [205.168.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA13463 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 10:30:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Ilsa.StevesCafe.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04080; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 11:30:08 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199707101730.LAA04080@Ilsa.StevesCafe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 From: Steve Passe To: Denis Comelli cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: i2c paraphernalia In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 10 Jul 1997 11:11:01 +0200." <33C4A725.2FBB@prix7.pr.infn.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 11:30:08 -0600 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > I'd like to get the file TV400.exe from your site: > http://www.freebsd.org/~fsmp/HomeAuto/files/ > the problem is that netscape aborts erratically the download also > after 1 day of activity (most of the time stalled). > I run netscape 3.0 from a unix workstation 24 hours up. > If you have an ftp site to try or if you have some other site > to grab it i'll be very glad. :-) > Ps > the i2c link doesn' t work properly > ************************************* > Info on the href="http://www.paranoia.com/%7Efilipg/HTML/LINK/ELE/F_I2C.html"> > I2C bus > ******************************************************** you must have some sort of connectivity problem I just confirmed that the i2c link is working and that I could download tv400.exe. this file is not on any ftp site that I'm aware of... -- Steve Passe | powered by smp@csn.net | Symmetric MultiProcessor FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jul 10 14:57:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA01035 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 14:57:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailbag.jf.intel.com (mailbag.jf.intel.com [134.134.248.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA01030 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 14:57:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aahz.jf.intel.com (aahz.jf.intel.com [192.198.161.2]) by mailbag.jf.intel.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA09504 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 15:00:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by aahz.jf.intel.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #13) id m0wmRDb-000hy3C; Thu, 10 Jul 97 14:57 PDT Message-Id: From: batie@aahz.jf.intel.com (Alan Batie) Subject: onboard sound problem To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 14:57:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've got a new Dell Dimension XPS H266; it's got onboard sound, as shown below. The problem is that when I try to play sounds (using xanim or splay), the sound comes in spurts --- a half second of sound, a one second pause, a half second of sound, etc. I disabled the lpt port, noticing that the irq's conflicted, but it made no difference. The error says it's DMA that's failing anyhow... Thoughts? Copyright (c) 1992-1997 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE #0: Thu Jun 26 18:16:50 PDT 1997 root@hugh.jf.intel.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/AAHZ CPU: Pentium Pro (265.91-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x633 Stepping=3 Features=0x80f9ff,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV> real memory = 67108864 (65536K bytes) Physical memory hole(s): avail memory = 63770624 (62276K bytes) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0 rev 2 on pci0:0 chip1 rev 1 on pci0:7:0 chip2 rev 0 on pci0:7:1 pci0:7:2: Intel Corporation, device=0x7020, class=0x0c, subclass=0x03 int d irq 9 [no driver assigned] vga0 rev 1 int a irq 11 on pci0:11 fxp0 rev 1 int a irq 9 on pci0:15 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:a0:c9:1a:cc:b8 ahc0 rev 0 int a irq 10 on pci0:19 ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16 SCBs (ahc0:0:0): "WDIGTL WDE4360-1807A2 1.70" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 4095MB (8388314 512 byte sectors) Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface psm0 at 0x60-0x64 irq 12 on motherboard psm0: device ID 0 fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, dma, iordy wcd0: 2067Kb/sec, 128Kb cache, audio play, 16 volume levels, ejectable tray wcd0: medium type unknown, unlocked npx0 flags 0x1 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface sb0 at 0x220 irq 7 drq 1 on isa sb0: sbxvi0 not found sbmidi0 not found at 0x330 gus0 not probed due to I/O address conflict with sb0 at 0x220 mss0 not probed due to drq conflict with sb0 at 1 opl0 at 0x38a on isa opl0: mpu0 at 0x330 irq 6 drq 0 on isa mpu0 not probed due to irq conflict with fdc0 at 6 uart0 at 0x330 irq 5 on isa uart0: <6850 Midi Interface> ccd0-3: Concatenated disk drivers Sound: DMA timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error? Sound: DMA timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error? Sound: DMA timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error? Sound: DMA timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error? Sound: DMA timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error? Sound: DMA timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error? Sound: DMA timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error? Sound: DMA timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error? Sound: DMA timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error? Sound: DMA timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error? Sound: DMA timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error? Sound: DMA timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error? Sound: DMA timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error? Sound: DMA timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error? -- Alan Batie ------ What goes up, must come down. batie@aahz.jf.intel.com \ / Ask any system administrator. +1 503-264-8844 (voice) \ / --unknown D0 D2 39 0E 02 34 D6 B4 \/ 5A 41 21 8F 23 5F 08 9D From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jul 10 17:07:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA05779 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 17:07:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from elch.heim4.tu-clausthal.de (100@elch.heim4.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.244.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA05772 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 17:07:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from olli@localhost) by elch.heim4.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA27135; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 02:07:23 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199707110007.CAA27135@elch.heim4.tu-clausthal.de> Subject: Re: onboard sound problem To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 02:07:23 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: batie@aahz.jf.intel.com In-Reply-To: from "Alan Batie" at Jul 10, 97 02:57:43 pm From: oliver.fromme@heim3.tu-clausthal.de (Oliver Fromme) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Alan Batie wrote: > I've got a new Dell Dimension XPS H266; it's got onboard sound, as shown > below. The problem is that when I try to play sounds (using xanim or splay), > the sound comes in spurts --- a half second of sound, a one second pause, > a half second of sound, etc. I disabled the lpt port, noticing that the > irq's conflicted, but it made no difference. The error says it's DMA that's > failing anyhow... Thoughts? > [...] > Sound: DMA timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error? > Sound: DMA timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error? > Sound: DMA timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error? I had exactly the same problem, using an AWE32 on IRQ 7. Disabling the lpt port on the mainboard doesn't help, since FreeBSD's driver still seems to get the wrong interrupt requests. I solved the problem by switching the lpt port to I/O polled mode, i.e. in your kernel config file, change the following line device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr to something like this: device lpt0 at isa? port? tty Then recompile and install your kernel and reboot. Switching the soundcard or lpt port to different IRQ numbers should also solve the problem, but that's not always possible, and I prefer having them on "standard" IRQs. By the way, switching the lpt port to I/O polled mode didn't have a noticable effect on printing speed. Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18-61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jul 10 19:00:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA09987 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 19:00:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailbag.jf.intel.com (mailbag.jf.intel.com [134.134.248.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA09979 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 19:00:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aahz.jf.intel.com (aahz.jf.intel.com [192.198.161.2]) by mailbag.jf.intel.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id TAA29790; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 19:02:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by aahz.jf.intel.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #13) id m0wmV0Z-000hy2C; Thu, 10 Jul 97 19:00 PDT Message-Id: From: batie@aahz.jf.intel.com (Alan Batie) Subject: Re: onboard sound problem To: oliver.fromme@heim3.tu-clausthal.de (Oliver Fromme) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 19:00:31 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199707110007.CAA27135@elch.heim4.tu-clausthal.de> from "Oliver Fromme" at Jul 11, 97 02:07:23 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I solved the problem by switching the lpt port to I/O polled > mode, i.e. in your kernel config file, change the following > line > device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr > to something like this: > device lpt0 at isa? port? tty > Then recompile and install your kernel and reboot. Well, seeing as I disabled the lpt on the motherboard, I took it out of the kernel configuration also. Same result. I think there's a dma conflict somewhere, given the errors in dmesg, so there's probably something hidden using a dma channel... -- Alan Batie ------ What goes up, must come down. batie@aahz.jf.intel.com \ / Ask any system administrator. +1 503-264-8844 (voice) \ / --unknown D0 D2 39 0E 02 34 D6 B4 \/ 5A 41 21 8F 23 5F 08 9D From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jul 10 19:08:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA10305 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 19:08:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA10300 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 19:08:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 22:06:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20099; Thu, 10 Jul 97 22:06:56 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA02288; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 22:04:58 -0400 Message-Id: <19970710220458.09697@ct.picker.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 22:04:58 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: batie@aahz.jf.intel.com Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: onboard sound problem References: <199707110007.CAA27135@elch.heim4.tu-clausthal.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 In-Reply-To: <199707110007.CAA27135@elch.heim4.tu-clausthal.de>; from Oliver Fromme on Fri, Jul 11, 1997 at 02:07:23AM +0200 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Oliver Fromme: |Alan Batie wrote: | > a half second of sound, etc. I disabled the lpt port, noticing that the | > irq's conflicted, but it made no difference. The error says it's DMA that's | > failing anyhow... Thoughts? | > [...] | > Sound: DMA timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error? | > Sound: DMA timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error? | > Sound: DMA timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error? | |I had exactly the same problem, using an AWE32 on IRQ 7. |I solved the problem by switching the lpt port to I/O polled |mode, i.e. in your kernel config file, change the following |line | device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 vector lptintr |to something like this: | device lpt0 at isa? port? tty |Then recompile and install your kernel and reboot. Another option you can try is specifying the "conflicts" option on your sb0 kernel config. E.g. (see the sb0 line that's not commented out): controller snd0 device pas0 at isa? port 0x388 irq 10 drq 3 vector pasintr device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 7 conflicts drq 1 vector sbintr #device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 vector sbintr device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5 device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330 # Yamaha OPL-2/OPL-3 FM - for SB, SB Pro, SB16, PAS device opl0 at isa? port 0x388 #device awe0 at isa? port 0x620 Though if IRQ 5 is free in your system, move the soundcard to that. The traditional SB16 config is IRQ5 DMA1 (8-bit) for the SB part and DMA5 (16-bit) for the SB16 part. Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jul 10 21:24:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA14773 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 21:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.170.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA14768 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 21:24:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA15924; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 21:24:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19970710212422.55196@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 21:24:22 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Randall Hopper Cc: Bernie Doehner , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dual PPro & Bt848 References: <19970709071258.25557@ct.picker.com> <19970709211636.38582@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <19970709211636.38582@ct.picker.com>; from Randall Hopper on Wed, Jul 09, 1997 at 09:16:36PM -0400 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Randall Hopper scribbled this message on Jul 9: > |2. Wincast will still ocasionaly hangs with IDE timeouts. By far not as > |bad as before, but still happens.. BUT, I discovered something that might > |have been causing me problems. I was IRQ sharing between my ethernet and > |video card. I am trying to get a Digiboard so that I can free up some of > |my IRQ's. > > Nuts, from your previous comments I thought we had that licked on your 486. > Well, at least you can do ximages and the CPU load isn't heavy anymore. As > Amancio's mentioned, this sounds like a MB chipset issue. Since the > Windoze S/W works for you, there's evidently something that can be done, > but it might be a difficult find. It's interesting though that all the > Pentium+ MBs don't see this particular problem. well.. that ain't true... I reciently upgraded my machine to a k5/90 and I'm still having problems... granted the mb isn't an Intel, but I was still able to crash the machine by doing nothing... of course do to the way FreeBSD will randomly sync out buffers, it still might be caused by bus being tied up... I readlly have no idea what my be causing the lock ups... but my gut says it's related to the scsi card... once I upgrade my scsi controler I'll try again... Bernie, are you running multiblock ide? and if so have you tried to turn it off? just a thought... but Ximages mode does work nicely... -- John-Mark Gurney Modem/FAX: +1 541 683 6954 Cu Networking Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jul 10 23:25:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA20163 for multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 23:25:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.ukrv.de (gatekeeper.ukrv.de [193.175.72.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA20151 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 1997 23:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gatekeeper.ukrv.de; (5.65/1.1.8.2/17Oct95-0336PM) id AA09238; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 08:25:39 +0200 Received: from mailhost(193.175.66.33) by gatekeeper.ukrv.de via smap (V1.3-JSC) id sma015267; Fri Jul 11 08:25:10 1997 Received: from merlin.ukrv.de by mailhost.ukrv.de; (5.65/1.1.8.2/08Mar95-0213PM) id AA25669; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 08:25:08 +0200 Received: by merlin.ukrv.de (4.1/UKRV-Gen PCG 0.1) id AA10004; Fri, 11 Jul 97 08:25:08 +0200 From: Udo Wolter Message-Id: <9707110625.AA10004@merlin.ukrv.de> Subject: Re: onboard sound problem In-Reply-To: <199707110007.CAA27135@elch.heim4.tu-clausthal.de> from Oliver Fromme at "Jul 11, 97 02:07:23 am" To: oliver.fromme@heim3.tu-clausthal.de (Oliver Fromme) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 08:25:08 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, batie@aahz.jf.intel.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Alan Batie wrote: > > I've got a new Dell Dimension XPS H266; it's got onboard sound, as shown > > below. The problem is that when I try to play sounds (using xanim or splay), > > the sound comes in spurts --- a half second of sound, a one second pause, > > a half second of sound, etc. I disabled the lpt port, noticing that the > > irq's conflicted, but it made no difference. The error says it's DMA that's > > failing anyhow... Thoughts? > > [...] > > Sound: DMA timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error? > > Sound: DMA timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error? > > Sound: DMA timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error? I got this too when I'm trying to record via auvoxware. I have the soundcard at IRQ 5 and the LPT at IRQ 7. > I had exactly the same problem, using an AWE32 on IRQ 7. Mine is a SB16 clone. > Disabling the lpt port on the mainboard doesn't help, since > FreeBSD's driver still seems to get the wrong interrupt > requests. But I have no IRQ conflict. It must be the DMA. But it seems to be ok. > By the way, switching the lpt port to I/O polled mode didn't > have a noticable effect on printing speed. No, but the speed of the rest of the system gets worse while you're printing. Bye, Udo -- Udo Wolter, email: uwp@cs.tu-berlin.de !!! LOW-TECH Page: http://low-tech.home.ml.org !!! From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jul 11 05:14:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA04034 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 05:14:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vanuata (vanuata.dcs.gla.ac.uk [130.209.240.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA04025 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 05:13:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from solander.dcs.gla.ac.uk (actually host solander) by vanuata with SMTP (MMTA) with ESMTP; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:13:51 +0100 Received: (from simonm@localhost) by solander.dcs.gla.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.7.3) id NAA14599; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:13:47 +0100 (BST) To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: onboard sound problem References: From: Simon Marlow Date: 11 Jul 1997 13:13:47 +0100 In-Reply-To: batie@aahz.jf.intel.com's message of Thu, 10 Jul 1997 14:57:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Lines: 22 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk batie@aahz.jf.intel.com (Alan Batie) writes: > I've got a new Dell Dimension XPS H266; it's got onboard sound, as shown > below. The problem is that when I try to play sounds (using xanim or splay), > the sound comes in spurts --- a half second of sound, a one second pause, > a half second of sound, etc. I disabled the lpt port, noticing that the > irq's conflicted, but it made no difference. The error says it's DMA that's > failing anyhow... Thoughts? I had the same problem on my Toshiba 460CDT, it turned out that the onboard sound was defaulting to DMA 0 instead of 1. Because you are actually getting some sound, however, it looks like an IRQ conflict/misconfiguration. Try booting Windows to set up the sound card before soft-booting into FreeBSD, and check that Windows is setting the IRQ properly. Cheers, Simon From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jul 11 10:07:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA21112 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:07:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from icicle.winternet.com (adm@icicle.winternet.com [198.174.169.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21095 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:07:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from adm@localhost) by icicle.winternet.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) id MAA13510; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 12:07:21 -0500 (CDT) Posted-Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 12:07:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from tundra.winternet.com(198.174.169.11) by icicle.winternet.com via smap (V2.0) id xma013445; Fri, 11 Jul 97 12:06:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (mestery@localhost) by tundra.winternet.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA14507; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 12:06:46 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: tundra.winternet.com: mestery owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 12:06:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Kyle Mestery To: Randall Hopper cc: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: guspnp8 driver release In-Reply-To: <19970709192457.38115@ct.picker.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > If you get a minute, could you pull mtv (www.mpegtv.com -- it's a Linux > MPEG player) and try it on an MPEG system (audio+video) stream. There's a > ton at http://www.mpeg.org/MPEG/bitstreams.html under MPEG System Streams. > Sorry this took so long to respond to. I downloaded mtv, but it was complaining about not finding libforms.so.86 or something. So I installed xforms, and it still complained. Do I need to get the linux xforms library and install it into /compt/linux? > Also I (and Amancio too I'm sure) would be interested as to whether you can > lock up your system breaking out of play apps. As I recall, I was using > mpg123 on an MPEG L2 or L3 audio file, let it play for a sec and then > Ctrl-C -- didn't take but a few to freeze my box. > I cannot lock the system at all. I have been using mpg123 extensively all week, and there have been no lockups at all. It works wonderfully! Kyle Mestery StorageTek's Network Systems Group 7600 Boone Ave. N., Brooklyn Park, MN 55428 mesteka@anubis.network.com, mestery@winternet.com From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jul 11 10:08:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA21213 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:08:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailbag.jf.intel.com (mailbag.jf.intel.com [134.134.248.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21199 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:08:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aahz.jf.intel.com (aahz.jf.intel.com [192.198.161.2]) by mailbag.jf.intel.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA06976; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:10:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by aahz.jf.intel.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #13) id m0wmjBF-000hy2C; Fri, 11 Jul 97 10:08 PDT Message-Id: From: batie@aahz.jf.intel.com (Alan Batie) Subject: Re: onboard sound problem To: rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:08:29 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19970710220458.09697@ct.picker.com> from "Randall Hopper" at Jul 10, 97 10:04:58 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In a previous message, Randall Hopper said: > Though if IRQ 5 is free in your system, move the soundcard to that. The > traditional SB16 config is IRQ5 DMA1 (8-bit) for the SB part and DMA5 > (16-bit) for the SB16 part. After checking in BIOS setup (which doesn't say where the audio is, nor does it let you fiddle with it, other than to enable/disable it), and the manual, which says nothing, and finally Dell's website told me that the default irq for the audio is irq 5. Reconfiguring the kernel fixed *that* problem (though now the uart0 isn't found because it would conflict; I don't do real midi stuff anyhow). Now (and it was doing it before, but I wanted the audio to be working in general before reporting it), rat repeatedly reports "audio busy" when I start it up. It's 3.0.22, the pre-compiled binary from the Multimedia Conferencing Applications Archive at http://ugwww.ucs.ed.ac.uk/mice/archive/ 301 rat CALL open(0x10130,0x4,0xffffffff) 301 rat NAMI "/dev/audio" 301 rat RET open 7 301 rat CALL ioctl(0x7,0x20005016 ,0) 301 rat RET ioctl -1 errno 22 Invalid argument 301 rat CALL ioctl(0x7,0xc004500a ,0xefbf976c) 301 rat RET ioctl 0 301 rat CALL ioctl(0x7,0xc0045005 ,0xefbf9768) 301 rat RET ioctl 0 301 rat CALL fstat(0x1,0xefbf93fc) 301 rat RET fstat 0 301 rat CALL ioctl(0x1,TIOCGETA,0xefbf9438) 301 rat RET ioctl 0 301 rat CALL write(0x1,0x19c000,0x2c) 301 rat GIO fd 1 wrote 44 bytes "Device doesn't support 16bit linear format! " 301 rat RET write 44/0x2c 301 rat CALL ioctl(0xffffffff,0x20005016 ,0) 301 rat RET ioctl -1 errno 9 Bad file descriptor 301 rat CALL close(0xffffffff) 301 rat RET close -1 errno 9 Bad file descriptor 301 rat CALL open(0x10130,0x5,0x12a000) 301 rat NAMI "/dev/audio" 301 rat RET open -1 errno 16 Device busy 301 rat CALL writev(0x2,0xefbf9730,0x4) 301 rat GIO fd 2 wrote 24 bytes "audio_open: Device busy " 301 rat RET writev 24/0x18 301 rat CALL close(0xffffffff) 301 rat RET close -1 errno 9 Bad file descriptor lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 6 Jul 10 13:44 /dev/audio@ -> audio0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 4 Jul 10 13:44 /dev/audio0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 4 Jul 10 13:44 /dev/dsp@ -> dsp0 crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 30, 3 Jul 11 09:58 /dev/dsp0 -- Alan Batie ------ What goes up, must come down. batie@aahz.jf.intel.com \ / Ask any system administrator. +1 503-264-8844 (voice) \ / --unknown D0 D2 39 0E 02 34 D6 B4 \/ 5A 41 21 8F 23 5F 08 9D From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jul 11 10:14:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA21990 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:14:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA21984 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:14:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:13:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12527; Fri, 11 Jul 97 13:13:29 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA03182; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:11:33 -0400 Message-Id: <19970711131132.30477@ct.picker.com> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 13:11:32 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Kyle Mestery Cc: Amancio Hasty , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: guspnp8 driver release References: <19970709192457.38115@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.76 In-Reply-To: ; from Kyle Mestery on Fri, Jul 11, 1997 at 12:06:46PM -0500 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Kyle Mestery: |Sorry this took so long to respond to. I downloaded mtv, but it was |complaining about not finding libforms.so.86 or something. So I installed |xforms, and it still complained. Do I need to get the linux xforms |library and install it into /compt/linux? Right. A linux binary only dynamically links in Linux shared libs. Let me know if you can't find it and I'll mail you mine. |> Also I (and Amancio too I'm sure) would be interested as to whether you can |> lock up your system breaking out of play apps. As I recall, I was using |> mpg123 on an MPEG L2 or L3 audio file, let it play for a sec and then |> Ctrl-C -- didn't take but a few to freeze my box. |> |I cannot lock the system at all. I have been using mpg123 extensively all |week, and there have been no lockups at all. It works wonderfully! Cool deal. I'll pull guspnp8 and start working with it as soon as I can get a chance. Thanks for the info! Randall From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jul 11 10:30:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA22989 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Octopussy.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE (Octopussy.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.166.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA22961 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 10:30:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (annexr2-43.slip.Uni-Koeln.DE) by Octopussy.MI.Uni-Koeln.DE with SMTP id AA05282 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 11 Jul 1997 19:29:52 +0200 Received: (from se@localhost) by x14.mi.uni-koeln.de (8.8.6/8.6.9) id TAA13888; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 19:29:43 +0200 (CEST) X-Face: " Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 19:29:43 +0200 From: Stefan Esser To: Randall Hopper Cc: Luigi Rizzo , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vat on sb16? References: <19970709222444.41185@ct.picker.com> <199707100208.EAA05067@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> <19970710064105.47517@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.74 In-Reply-To: <19970710064105.47517@ct.picker.com>; from Randall Hopper on Thu, Jul 10, 1997 at 06:41:05AM -0400 Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Jul 10, Randall Hopper wrote: > Luigi Rizzo: > |> Regarding the SB16 full-duplex issue, (yes I'm an e-mail pack-rat :-), > |... > |> Would one or the other of these two be practical to implement in our sound > |> drivers? The latter sounds like it might be completely transparent to the > | > |why one should do that since mss cards (based on the OPTi931, or > |some other AD1884-type codec) are sold for US$30 here (that's > |including 19% VAT!) and they support full duplex. > > Well, its the most common class of card out there. I wonder how many users > would switch over (or start off with) FreeBSD for doing their Internet > phone and audio conferencing (Speak Freely, vat, etc.) if we supported > their hardware in full-duplex. I could be wrong, but I think SB16+ owners > are currently locked into MS Windoze for this; if I were them, I'd sure be > looking for a way out :-) So, an opportunity to win over more users. I have access to a few low-end sound cards, and I had little luck with them under FreeBSD (but then I only wanted to play with ISA PnP, and at little more than $15, I didn't those cards to actually work :) > It'd be a nice feature for the existing user base too, if it isn't > technically impractical. There once was a posting that indicated patches to cards based on the Opti chips, which fixed the probe and made them work more smoothly. I once had one of my cards running well enough (worked great with raplayer, until I made it run under rtprio to listen to some radio program during a large compile and had the system lock up solid :), but after building a kernel without sound support, I never succeeded in driving that sound card anymore :( I really think we should try to fix the current sound drivers, no matter hwo antiquated they are. We loose customers, else, and I for one, would also prefer to play with multimedia tools ... Regards, STefan From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jul 11 16:52:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA10075 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 16:52:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pahtoh.cwu.edu (root@pahtoh.cwu.edu [198.104.65.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10070 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 16:52:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from opus.cts.cwu.edu (skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu [198.104.92.71]) by pahtoh.cwu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA27207 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 16:52:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (skynyrd@localhost) by opus.cts.cwu.edu (8.8.6/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA23593 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 16:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 16:52:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Timmons To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: VoxWare v3.5-alpha5 integration Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to improve our emulation environment for the linux StreamWorks audio player which at the very least uses one ioctl not available in our present VoxWare v3.0 driver: #define SNDCTL_DSP_GETOPTR _IOR ('P',18, count_info) Thanks to the work of Amancio Hasty and Brian Litzinger I've downloaded the FreeBSD port VoxWare v3.5-alpha5 and can run it successfully under 2.2-STABLE. Is anyone actively working on integrating VoxWare v3.5-alpha5 into -current? I have all of the pieces necessary to help and am willing to do so. -Chris From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jul 11 17:18:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA11698 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 17:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailbag.jf.intel.com (mailbag.jf.intel.com [134.134.248.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA11677 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 17:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aahz.jf.intel.com (aahz.jf.intel.com [192.198.161.2]) by mailbag.jf.intel.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA28322 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 17:21:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by aahz.jf.intel.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #13) id m0wmptX-000hy2C; Fri, 11 Jul 97 17:18 PDT Message-Id: From: batie@aahz.jf.intel.com (Alan Batie) Subject: vic & 24-bit To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 17:18:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk OK, now I've got X setup on this thing, 3.3 w/4Meg Millenium, and figured out how to get the thing into 24-bit mode so I don't go blind from color flash, and lo! The vic-bktr I downloaded from rah.star-gate that worked great in 256 color mode, has gotten itself thricely confused. The b&w static has a hit of the image in triplicate (the window is divided into 3 side-by-side vertical bands that appear to be repeated). Nothing seems to like the output of my xwd (XFree86 3.3 on FreeBSD 2.2.2), so I can't get a snapshot of it... -- Alan Batie ------ What goes up, must come down. batie@aahz.jf.intel.com \ / Ask any system administrator. +1 503-264-8844 (voice) \ / --unknown D0 D2 39 0E 02 34 D6 B4 \/ 5A 41 21 8F 23 5F 08 9D From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jul 11 18:22:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA13386 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 18:22:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA13381 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 18:22:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.5/8.7.3) id SAA28263; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 18:21:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 18:21:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707120121.SAA28263@vader.cs.berkeley.edu> To: batie@aahz.jf.intel.com CC: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (batie@aahz.jf.intel.com) Subject: Re: vic & 24-bit From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * OK, now I've got X setup on this thing, 3.3 w/4Meg Millenium, and figured * out how to get the thing into 24-bit mode so I don't go blind from color * flash, and lo! The vic-bktr I downloaded from rah.star-gate that worked * great in 256 color mode, has gotten itself thricely confused. The b&w * static has a hit of the image in triplicate (the window is divided into * 3 side-by-side vertical bands that appear to be repeated). Nothing seems * to like the output of my xwd (XFree86 3.3 on FreeBSD 2.2.2), so I can't * get a snapshot of it... Not sure if it is related, but the XFree86's Matrox driver is known to have bugs in 24bpp mode. Have you tried 16bpp? (Or 32bpp, which also works great, but with 4MB you can't run it with more than 1152x900....) Satoshi From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jul 11 19:37:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA15329 for multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 19:37:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA15324 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 19:37:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA04221; Fri, 11 Jul 1997 19:36:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707120236.TAA04221@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Chris Timmons cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VoxWare v3.5-alpha5 integration In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 11 Jul 1997 16:52:31 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 19:36:21 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Chris, We are in the process of cleaning up the VoxWare v3.5 sound driver or rather Luigi Rizzo has taken the lead in that area. In the meantime, we are trying to ask people to the test the driver more aggresively so hopefully in a week or two we can integrate the driver in 3.0-current. The latest Voxware 3.5 derivative sound driver is at: ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/guspnp8.tar.gz That version also includes a linux ioctl patch which defines missing ioctls such LINUX_SNDCTL_DSP_GETIPTR ( 0x5011). The patch file ,i386_linux.patch, was contributed by Randall Hopper Have fun, Amancio >From The Desk Of Chris Timmons : > > I'm trying to improve our emulation environment for the linux StreamWorks > audio player which at the very least uses one ioctl not available in our > present VoxWare v3.0 driver: > > #define SNDCTL_DSP_GETOPTR _IOR ('P',18, count_info) > > Thanks to the work of Amancio Hasty and Brian Litzinger I've downloaded > the FreeBSD port VoxWare v3.5-alpha5 and can run it successfully under > 2.2-STABLE. > > Is anyone actively working on integrating VoxWare v3.5-alpha5 into > -current? I have all of the pieces necessary to help and am willing to do > so. > > -Chris > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jul 12 00:32:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA24218 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 00:32:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA24213 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 00:32:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw.itfs.nsk.su (ns.nsk.ru [193.124.36.33]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA21256 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 00:32:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from itfs.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by gw.itfs.nsk.su (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id OAA19694 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 14:30:08 +0700 Received: by itfs.nsk.su; Sat, 12 Jul 97 14:41:40 +0700 (NST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by news.itfs.nsk.su (8.7.5/8.6.12) id OAA20262; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 14:11:28 +0700 (NSD) From: nnd@itfs.nsk.su To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: MTV from www.mpegtv.com (Was: guspnp8 driver release) Date: 12 Jul 1997 07:11:26 GMT Message-ID: <5q7amu$jc9@news.itfs.nsk.su> References: <19970709192457.38115@ct.picker.com> <19970711131132.30477@ct.picker.com> Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Randall Hopper wrote: > Kyle Mestery: > |Sorry this took so long to respond to. I downloaded mtv, but it was > |complaining about not finding libforms.so.86 or something. So I installed > |xforms, and it still complained. Do I need to get the linux xforms > |library and install it into /compt/linux? > Right. A linux binary only dynamically links in Linux shared libs. > Let me know if you can't find it and I'll mail you mine. I've download BSDI binary of mtv from http://www.mpegtv.com and it works good on my 3.0-current FreeBSD. (And it does'nt requires libforms - it already has it statically). There is some problem with registering a temporary key for one month non-30-sec-restricted audio playing - their web-form requires filling out output of 'hostid' command which I can not find on my FreeBSD system (nor native or linux-emulation-based one ;-) What can be done for licensing that sort of software for FreeBSD ? Can I simply send them some arbitrary hex-numbers as 'hostid' output or I must install some "hostid'-alike program which will output this same number for their programs to verify that this is really MY system ? N.Dudorov From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jul 12 00:51:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA24700 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 00:51:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA24687 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 00:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id IAA08474; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 08:45:13 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199707120645.IAA08474@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: VoxWare v3.5-alpha5 integration To: skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu (Chris Timmons) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 08:45:13 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Chris Timmons" at Jul 11, 97 04:52:12 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Is anyone actively working on integrating VoxWare v3.5-alpha5 into > -current? I have all of the pieces necessary to help and am willing to do > so. as amancio said I am doing a major cleanup of the code, starting from VoxWare v3.5 and later patches. The current snapshot of my code is at http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/snd970711.tgz at the moment it does not have any functionality, I am only asking for volunteers who have a working audio subsystem using guspnp code, and can check if it still works with my code and report any problem (and possibly suggest fixes). If you also have a look at the code, there are a lot of comments (lines marked with XXX ) on points where I am not sure about what the code does. Thanks Luigi From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jul 12 10:05:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA11613 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 10:05:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x14.boston.juno.com (x14.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11608 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 10:05:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from n9ogk@juno.com) by x14.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id NpA03784; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 13:05:14 EDT To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 11:54:50 -0500 Subject: Photo manipulation SW Message-ID: <19970712.115451.3462.0.N9OGK@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.38 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-2,6-7,10-11,13-17 From: n9ogk@juno.com (Jack W Doyle) Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I know that this may be the wrong mailing-list to ask, but I figured that since this is the multimedia group, I might as well ask :) Is there an equivalent of Adobe PhotoShop for FreeBSD? I'm looking high and low for said piece of software, possibly even better than PhotoShop. I wouldn't mind if I had to get it on CD-ROM, because of all the bells and whistles. A bit about Photoshop: It's a Lose95 photo-manipulation software, with all kinds of filters and effects and editing tools. With it, you edit and manipulate an existing photo to your liking. If this is the wrong mailing-list to post this question, then I'll shut up and go back to lurking :) Jack The faster your computer is, the slower your life becomes. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jul 12 10:31:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA12250 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 10:31:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12245 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 10:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12059; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 10:31:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707121731.KAA12059@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: n9ogk@juno.com (Jack W Doyle) cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Photo manipulation SW In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 12 Jul 1997 11:54:50 CDT." <19970712.115451.3462.0.N9OGK@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 10:30:59 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk A publicly available contender against adobe photoshop is gimp. The main web page is: http://www.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/~gimp/ There is also a ports collection up at ftp.freebsd.org: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports-current/graphics/gimp To get and compile a port's package mkdir -p /usr/ports/graphics cd /usr/ports/graphics ncftp ftp ftp.ftp.freebsd.org cd pub/FreeBSD/ports-current/ cd graphics get gimp.tar.gz quit tar -xzf gimp.tar.gz cd gimp make make install You will also need the pots/x11/freefonts package Have fun, Amancio >From The Desk Of Jack W Doyle : > I know that this may be the wrong mailing-list to ask, but I figured that > since this is the multimedia group, I might as well ask :) > > Is there an equivalent of Adobe PhotoShop for FreeBSD? I'm looking high > and low for said piece of software, possibly even better than PhotoShop. > I wouldn't mind if I had to get it on CD-ROM, because of all the bells > and whistles. > > A bit about Photoshop: It's a Lose95 photo-manipulation software, with > all kinds of filters and effects and editing tools. With it, you edit > and manipulate an existing photo to your liking. > > If this is the wrong mailing-list to post this question, then I'll shut > up and go back to lurking :) > > Jack > > The faster your computer is, the slower your life becomes. From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jul 12 10:38:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA12380 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 10:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12375 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 10:37:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA11658; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 20:37:01 +0300 (EEST) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 20:36:58 +0300 (EEST) From: Narvi To: Jack W Doyle cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Photo manipulation SW In-Reply-To: <19970712.115451.3462.0.N9OGK@juno.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 12 Jul 1997, Jack W Doyle wrote: > I know that this may be the wrong mailing-list to ask, but I figured that > since this is the multimedia group, I might as well ask :) > > Is there an equivalent of Adobe PhotoShop for FreeBSD? I'm looking high > and low for said piece of software, possibly even better than PhotoShop. > I wouldn't mind if I had to get it on CD-ROM, because of all the bells > and whistles. netpbm, xv, urt, gifxxx, etc. See the graphic subdirectory of ports. > > A bit about Photoshop: It's a Lose95 photo-manipulation software, with No it isn't. Yes, it does have a port for win32, but it isn't win specific. I actually think it originated on the Mac. I also think it has ports to other platforms. > all kinds of filters and effects and editing tools. With it, you edit > and manipulate an existing photo to your liking. try gimp. It is free (actually, it is GPLed) and in the ports collection. Sander There is no love, no good, no happiness and no future - all these are just illusions. > > If this is the wrong mailing-list to post this question, then I'll shut > up and go back to lurking :) There is no better freebsd list. > > Jack > > The faster your computer is, the slower your life becomes. > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jul 12 11:14:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA13792 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 11:14:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13786 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 11:14:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA12240; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 11:14:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707121814.LAA12240@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: n9ogk@juno.com (Jack W Doyle) cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Photo manipulation SW In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 12 Jul 1997 11:54:50 CDT." <19970712.115451.3462.0.N9OGK@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 11:14:50 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sorry for the double post.... Graphic image manipulation programs are closely tied to multimedia . This is a topic that I was hoping to open up to the group;however, in my case I have been tied up with low level stuff. It is never too late to start talking about cool graphic/image manipulation 8) If you visit my sound driver web page , you will see a neat looking heading which was generated over the net using net-fu: http://rah.star-gate.com/HyperNews/get/forums/sound.html http://scheme.xcf.berkeley.edu/net-fu/ So lets open up to the forum by starting to talk about gimp or a cool gimp image procedure or filter . Any takers? Why gimp? Cause there are tons of references in the web about gimp and in some cases people translate adobe photoshop procedures to gimp. Among many things, one of the nice features of gimp is that it has a plug-in interface so additionally functionality is easy to distribute For example , the scsi scanner software package has a gimp plugin interface which allows it to import scanned images directly into gimp for image manipulation. Before we get into language wars because gimp's nterpreter is scheme . Eric Hernes wrote a tcl interface for gimp so at the very least we have to available interpreters to use;although, most available script-fu procedures are written in scheme. Enjoy, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jul 12 11:42:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA14827 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 11:42:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA14820 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 11:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA08487 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 13:41:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from jac-fl3-10.ix.netcom.com(204.31.245.106) by dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma008472; Sat Jul 12 13:41:17 1997 Message-ID: <33C7D073.41C67EA6@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 14:44:03 -0400 From: Ted Knight Organization: AbFabInc X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Photo manipulation SW References: <199707121814.LAA12240@rah.star-gate.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Amancio Hasty wrote: > > Sorry for the double post.... > > Graphic image manipulation programs are closely tied to multimedia . > This is a topic that I was hoping to open up to the group;however, > in my case I have been tied up with low level stuff. > > It is never too late to start talking about cool graphic/image > manipulation 8) If you visit my sound driver web page , > you will see a neat looking heading which was generated over the > net using net-fu: > http://rah.star-gate.com/HyperNews/get/forums/sound.html > http://scheme.xcf.berkeley.edu/net-fu/ > > So lets open up to the forum by starting to talk about gimp or a cool > gimp image procedure or filter . Any takers? > > Why gimp? Cause there are tons of references in the web about gimp and > in some cases people translate adobe photoshop procedures to gimp. > Among many things, one of the nice features of gimp is that it has > a plug-in interface so additionally functionality is easy to distribute > For example , the scsi scanner software package has a gimp plugin > interface which allows it to import scanned images directly into > gimp for image manipulation. > > Before we get into language wars because gimp's nterpreter is > scheme . Eric Hernes wrote a tcl interface for gimp > so at the very least we have to available interpreters to use;although, > most available script-fu procedures are written in scheme. > > Enjoy, > Amancio I have compiled gimp-0.99.19 flawlessly on freebsd it works very well. If you are going to use Script-Fu you will need the freefont collection and you will have to install the gimp data from gimp-0.99.9 to get all of the scripts to run ( this one point is not documented ). Therer are many tutorials to assist in doing neat image manipulations. TK From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jul 12 13:18:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA18304 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 13:18:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18299 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 13:18:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00315 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 13:18:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707122018.NAA00315@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Luigi's code clean up , good job ! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 13:18:26 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk There is a ton of work on this area for the first cut is not bad . We will probably continue to clean up the code for about a week before we can consider submitting the driver to -current. It is important that we get the proper styling of the code up front before we submit the code so that we can track changes easier. http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/snd970711.tgz ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/snd970711.tgz I will generate a tar ball of the latest sound driver tomorrow in the mean time if you guys can download luigi's version it will be great. Cheers, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jul 12 15:21:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA22498 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 15:21:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22493; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 15:21:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01005; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 15:21:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707122221.PAA01005@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Stefan Esser cc: Randall Hopper , Luigi Rizzo , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vat on sb16? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 11 Jul 1997 19:29:43 +0200." <19970711192943.04053@mi.uni-koeln.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 15:21:40 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >From The Desk Of Stefan Esser : > I really think we should try to fix the current sound drivers, > no matter hwo antiquated they are. We loose customers, else, > and I for one, would also prefer to play with multimedia > tools ... We are in a transition point right now so there are bounds to be kinks while we smooth out the driver. Over the past few months, I have been focusing on the Bt848 driver given that the intense work in that area is over I am beginning to work again in the sound drivers and hopefully others will join in the hacking session 8) Best Regards, Amancio From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jul 12 15:44:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA23437 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 15:44:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from x14.boston.juno.com (x14.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA23432 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 15:44:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from n9ogk@juno.com) by x14.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id SoW03784; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 18:43:24 EDT To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 15:10:12 -0500 Subject: Re: Photo manipulation SW Message-ID: <19970712.173319.11958.0.N9OGK@juno.com> References: <199707121814.LAA12240@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.38 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-2,4-21,26-48,53-58 From: n9ogk@juno.com (Jack W Doyle) Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The faster your computer is, the slower your life becomes. On Sat, 12 Jul 1997 11:14:50 -0700 Amancio Hasty writes: > >Sorry for the double post.... > >Graphic image manipulation programs are closely tied to multimedia . >This is a topic that I was hoping to open up to the group;however, >in my case I have been tied up with low level stuff. > >It is never too late to start talking about cool graphic/image >manipulation 8) If you visit my sound driver web page , >you will see a neat looking heading which was generated over the >net using net-fu: >http://rah.star-gate.com/HyperNews/get/forums/sound.html >http://scheme.xcf.berkeley.edu/net-fu/ > >So lets open up to the forum by starting to talk about gimp or a cool >gimp image procedure or filter . Any takers? Me. I got a question: I tried to get gimp for freebsd before, only to find out it needs Motif stuff, which I do not have. Is there any versions that do not need said stuff? The reason why I asked this is because at that time I got gimp, I got it from a different source than berkeley.edu, because berkeley was at that time broken. >Why gimp? Cause there are tons of references in the web about gimp and >in some cases people translate adobe photoshop procedures to gimp. >Among many things, one of the nice features of gimp is that it has >a plug-in interface so additionally functionality is easy to >distribute >For example , the scsi scanner software package has a gimp plugin >interface which allows it to import scanned images directly into >gimp for image manipulation. > >Before we get into language wars because gimp's nterpreter is >scheme . Eric Hernes wrote a tcl interface for gimp >so at the very least we have to available interpreters to >use;although, >most available script-fu procedures are written in scheme. > > > Enjoy, > Amancio > Another question: How can I get it via text-only email (no internet account, sorry, too expensive for me - I live in a very very rural area)? uudecode it and split into floppy-diskette size chunks, where I can cat the chunks together into one big file? The email is also on the Lose95 side; that's why I need to be able to get it in floppy-sized chunks :( Jack > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jul 12 16:16:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA24426 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 16:16:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (ala-ca32-05.ix.netcom.com [199.35.209.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA24419 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 16:16:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU (8.8.6/8.6.9) id QAA10031; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 16:14:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 16:14:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707122314.QAA10031@silvia.HIP.Berkeley.EDU> To: n9ogk@juno.com CC: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <19970712.173319.11958.0.N9OGK@juno.com> Subject: Re: Photo manipulation SW From: asami@cs.berkeley.edu (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk * Me. I got a question: I tried to get gimp for freebsd before, only to * find out it needs Motif stuff, which I do not have. Is there any * versions that do not need said stuff? The reason why I asked this is The one used in the gimp-devel port does not require Motif. * because at that time I got gimp, I got it from a different source than * berkeley.edu, because berkeley was at that time broken. You can always get the port's matching distfile from ftp.freebsd.org's /pub/FreeBSD/distfiles dir. Satoshi From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jul 12 16:26:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA24610 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 16:26:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [204.188.121.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA24602 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 16:26:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA01560; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 16:26:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707122326.QAA01560@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: n9ogk@juno.com (Jack W Doyle) cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Photo manipulation SW In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 12 Jul 1997 15:10:12 CDT." <19970712.173319.11958.0.N9OGK@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 16:26:00 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You don't need motif to build gimp that problem was fixed a while ago. If you like just order the FreeBSD 3.0 -current CDROM from Walnut Creek. It has the source as well as a binary package for gimp--0.99.9.tgz as well as freefonts Cheers, Amancio >From The Desk Of Jack W Doyle : > > The faster your computer is, the slower your life becomes. > > On Sat, 12 Jul 1997 11:14:50 -0700 Amancio Hasty > writes: > > > >Sorry for the double post.... > > > >Graphic image manipulation programs are closely tied to multimedia . > >This is a topic that I was hoping to open up to the group;however, > >in my case I have been tied up with low level stuff. > > > >It is never too late to start talking about cool graphic/image > >manipulation 8) If you visit my sound driver web page , > >you will see a neat looking heading which was generated over the > >net using net-fu: > >http://rah.star-gate.com/HyperNews/get/forums/sound.html > >http://scheme.xcf.berkeley.edu/net-fu/ > > > >So lets open up to the forum by starting to talk about gimp or a cool > >gimp image procedure or filter . Any takers? > > Me. I got a question: I tried to get gimp for freebsd before, only to > find out it needs Motif stuff, which I do not have. Is there any > versions that do not need said stuff? The reason why I asked this is > because at that time I got gimp, I got it from a different source than > berkeley.edu, because berkeley was at that time broken. > > >Why gimp? Cause there are tons of references in the web about gimp and > >in some cases people translate adobe photoshop procedures to gimp. > >Among many things, one of the nice features of gimp is that it has > >a plug-in interface so additionally functionality is easy to > >distribute > >For example , the scsi scanner software package has a gimp plugin > >interface which allows it to import scanned images directly into > >gimp for image manipulation. > > > >Before we get into language wars because gimp's nterpreter is > >scheme . Eric Hernes wrote a tcl interface for gimp > >so at the very least we have to available interpreters to > >use;although, > >most available script-fu procedures are written in scheme. > > > > > > Enjoy, > > Amancio > > > > > Another question: How can I get it via text-only email (no internet > account, sorry, too expensive for me - I live in a very very rural area)? > uudecode it and split into floppy-diskette size chunks, where I can cat > the chunks together into one big file? The email is also on the Lose95 > side; that's why I need to be able to get it in floppy-sized chunks :( > > Jack > > > > > From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jul 12 22:48:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA06898 for multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 22:48:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gdi.uoregon.edu (gdi.uoregon.edu [128.223.186.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA06893 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 22:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by gdi.uoregon.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA00306 for ; Sat, 12 Jul 1997 22:47:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 22:47:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White X-Sender: dwhite@localhost Reply-To: Doug White To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: It's green! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello! I've found an unusual interaction between fxtv 0.43 and an older bktr-enhanced vic. After I restart the machine, everything's peachy in vic -- I can transmit fine. But, if I run fxtv 0.43, quit, and then restart the transmit in vic, the transmitted image is toned green. This holds for whatever I broadcast -- blue screen, RCA input, or tuner. Maybe we need to update the bktr framegrabber for vic? I'm guessing fxtv is setting a wierd mode and the bktr-grabber isn't wired to reset the grab type yet. FXTV is displaying in direct video mode. I'm running in 1024x768x16 at the moment on the Mach64 GX. An oddity: I rebuilt the kernel with the 0604 driver and rebooted the machine. When I started vic back up to test transmission by transmitting the TV (Port-1), I got the channel I was watching on FXTV (channel 12) _before_ the warmboot back. I run FXTV and get the default channel, 3. The vic.bktr.gz matches the one on rah right now. Hints? Help? Thanks! 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