From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 00:07:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA13040 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 00:07:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zNET.com (sd01.znet.com [207.167.64.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA13035 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 00:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bjfox (sdts1-16.znet.com [207.167.64.16]) by zNET.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/jjb-sd01) with SMTP id AAA23780 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 00:07:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <336C35C3.7996@sd.znet.com> Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 00:07:47 -0700 From: Brad Fox X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Help with FreeBSD2.2.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, guy thanks for the support. I installed the full FreeBSD2.2.1-i386 on a compaq system. The basic X system is running fine. The system installted the ports section all 880 of them. My problem is I don't know how to install the packages that are on this system I have tried pkg_add ..., pkg_info, make all insall and pkg_manage which is just a blank directory. If you could please give an assist in this area I would appreciate it. Thank you, brad fox bjfox@sd.znet.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 01:04:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA14709 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 01:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de [141.31.166.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA14704 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 01:04:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from helbig@localhost) by helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA03852; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:04:36 +0200 (MET DST) From: Wolfgang Helbig Message-Id: <199705040804.KAA03852@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Subject: Re: Help with FreeBSD2.2.1 In-Reply-To: <336C35C3.7996@sd.znet.com> from Brad Fox at "May 4, 97 00:07:47 am" To: bjfox@znet.com (Brad Fox) Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 10:04:34 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi > Hi, guy thanks for the support. > I installed the full FreeBSD2.2.1-i386 on a compaq system. The basic X > system is running fine. The system installted the ports section all 880 > of them. My problem is I don't know how to install the packages > that are on this system I have tried pkg_add ..., pkg_info, make all > insall and pkg_manage which is just a blank directory. If you could > please give an assist in this area I would appreciate it. Login as root, insert the CD and mount it: # mount /cdrom Search the tarball of the package in the directory /cdrom/packages and use pkg_add to install the found package bar: # pkg_add /cdrom/packages/foo/bar.tgz > > Thank you, You're welcome. > brad fox > bjfox@sd.znet.com > Wolfgang From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 03:26:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA18905 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 03:26:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from foo.notwork.net (foo.notwork.net [206.152.140.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA18900 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 03:26:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from marko@localhost) by foo.notwork.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA11138 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 4 May 1997 01:32:11 -0400 (EDT) From: razzle dazzle root beer Message-Id: <199705040532.BAA11138@foo.notwork.net> Subject: final: boot with old bios, new drive To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 01:32:11 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Eivind Eklund was right. :) I had a old system with a ide drive too big for any bios geometry settings.. Not installing the compatability boot block or whatever they are called and making the drive totally dedicated to freebsd made the thing boot!. Thanks guys, all the ideas brought me closer. Another thing that worked, but limited the size of my root partition was making the root partition smaller than the bios harddrive size that was set.. Since its a laptop and only has 520 megs I wanted only a / slice to get better use of my space.. Marko From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 04:17:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA20232 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 04:17:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA20227 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 04:17:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-131 [207.14.72.131]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA07605 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 02:14:11 -0800 Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 18:11:16 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: freebsd-questions Subject: permissions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk why is it that i can open, modify, and save changes to a file with r--r--r-- perms (as root)? shouldn't a file be read only under these conditions? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 05:19:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA21456 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 05:19:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from narcissus.ml.org (root@brosenga.Pitzer.edu [134.173.120.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA21451 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 05:19:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (fullermd@localhost) by narcissus.ml.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA20504; Sun, 4 May 1997 05:19:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 05:19:25 -0700 (PDT) From: The Devil Himself To: Steve Howe cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: permissions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 3 May 1997, Steve Howe wrote: > > why is it that i can open, modify, and save changes to a > file with r--r--r-- perms (as root)? shouldn't a file be > read only under these conditions? > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- What do you mean, "as root"? If the file belongs to someone else, and you are root, then it doesn't matter what the permissions are. If the file belongs to root, and you are anyone, including root, then you have a problem. Doesn't sound like a common one, because I had some files on my system r--r--r-- owner root, group wheel, and I got annoyed because I couldn't save changes, even as root. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* |FreeBSD is good. FreeBSD is our friend. UNIX is our god.| *Micro$oft is bad. Micro$oft causes problems.* |MicroBSD??? I DON'T THINK SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!| |"I hate quotes in signature files" :-} MAtthew Fuller| *fullermd@narcissus.ml.org FreeBSD junkie* |http://keystone.westminster.edu/~fullermd Westminster College| *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 06:38:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA22993 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 06:38:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from trout.cyberusa.com (root@trout.cyberusa.com [206.187.82.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA22988 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 06:38:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from calley.xavier.org ([206.187.82.192]) by trout.cyberusa.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA08054 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 08:44:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <336C92FC.41C67EA6@cyberusa.com> Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 08:45:32 -0500 From: "Jon E. Kump" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: help Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk help From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 06:54:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA23380 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 06:54:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA23375 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 06:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak (ai-129 [207.14.72.129]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA08020; Sun, 4 May 1997 04:50:53 -0800 Message-ID: <336C14FE.41C67EA6@anchorage.net> Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 20:47:58 -0800 From: abc xyz X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: The Devil Himself CC: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: permissions References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The Devil Himself wrote: > > On Sat, 3 May 1997, Steve Howe wrote: > > > > > why is it that i can open, modify, and save changes to a > > file with r--r--r-- perms (as root)? shouldn't a file be > > read only under these conditions? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > What do you mean, "as root"? i mean i can do these things as root (2.2.1). i guess i should've added that the files ARE owner root, group wheel. i don't think i should be able to modify such files, but i can. it's interesting that you say you can't. are you using 2.2.1? > If the file belongs to root, and you are anyone, including root, then you > have a problem. > Doesn't sound like a common one, because I had some files on my system > r--r--r-- owner root, group wheel, and I got annoyed because I couldn't > save changes, even as root. > |"I hate quotes in signature files" :-} MAtthew Fuller| ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 07:02:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA23572 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 07:02:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from narcissus.ml.org (root@brosenga.Pitzer.edu [134.173.120.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA23567 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 07:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (fullermd@localhost) by narcissus.ml.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA20710; Sun, 4 May 1997 07:02:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 07:02:33 -0700 (PDT) From: The Devil Himself To: abc xyz cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: permissions In-Reply-To: <336C14FE.41C67EA6@anchorage.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 3 May 1997, abc xyz wrote: > > > why is it that i can open, modify, and save changes to a > > > file with r--r--r-- perms (as root)? shouldn't a file be > > > read only under these conditions? > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > What do you mean, "as root"? > > i mean i can do these things as root (2.2.1). > i guess i should've added that the files ARE > owner root, group wheel. i don't think i > should be able to modify such files, but i can. > it's interesting that you say you can't. > are you using 2.2.1? > > > If the file belongs to root, and you are anyone, including root, then you > > have a problem. > > Doesn't sound like a common one, because I had some files on my system > > r--r--r-- owner root, group wheel, and I got annoyed because I couldn't > > save changes, even as root. This was on a 2.1.6 system. I've also experienced it on a 2.2-STABLE 4/26/97 system. I've also come across it on a AIX 3.2.4 (shudder) system. When you say modify and save changes, how are you doing this? vi? pico? emacs? echo? Wasn't there some hole in emacs, about it ignoring file permissions? I'm pretty sure there was one a while ago about it ignoring ownership... *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* |FreeBSD is good. FreeBSD is our friend. UNIX is our god.| *Micro$oft is bad. Micro$oft causes problems.* |MicroBSD??? I DON'T THINK SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!| |"I hate quotes in signature files" :-} MAtthew Fuller| *fullermd@narcissus.ml.org FreeBSD junkie* |http://keystone.westminster.edu/~fullermd Westminster College| *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 07:24:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA24214 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 07:24:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24185 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 07:24:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (shovey@buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA04156 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:25:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 10:24:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Weird perl problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On both 2.1R and 2.1.5R boxes, Im having this really really weird problem with perl. I run wwwstat against apache logs. Lately on a main large install (the logs being close to or ovre 400MB) the perl script will run, print out 8192 bytes exactly of report output, then abort with a floating point exception error message. I thought it might be some kind of divide error and wasted weeks putting in checks before any math operations. Then finally I put in an echo check - just a line to spew out some iteration information, and the point the program stopped at changed, I mean what secton of the report it was on when it aborted - but again, the report itself was exactly 8192 bytes in size. The report goes to stdout which I use >filename to trap in a file. Any ideas? Im going crasy! From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 07:44:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA24906 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 07:44:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obiwan.psinet.net.au (obiwan.psinet.net.au [203.19.28.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24901 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 07:44:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (adrian@localhost) by obiwan.psinet.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA01151 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 22:27:52 +0800 (WST) Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 22:27:52 +0800 (WST) From: Adrian Chadd To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Why are we still using Perl 4.x .. ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > On both 2.1R and 2.1.5R boxes, Im having this really really weird problem > with perl. This question kinda sparked another one.. Why in gods name are we still using Perl 4 in the base distribution? That perl 5.00x exploit released on bugtraq a while back.. does anyone still have a copy of it somewhere? Has anyone tried exploiting suidperl 4 like that? What exactly is the current status with getting perl 5 into the tree? Just curious.. Adrian. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 07:53:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA26551 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 07:53:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uhf.wdc.net (uhf.4d.net [207.137.157.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA26511; Sun, 4 May 1997 07:53:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wdc.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA00457; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:54:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 10:54:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Bernie Doehner To: admin@linkeasy.net, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: dduchene@wireless.net Subject: Computone Intelliport II - 8 Port ISA Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi: I am writing in reference to Mike Parks' posting of 15 Nov. asking about the 64 port Intelliserver by Computone. I have come across an excellent deal for Intelliport II's (8 port, ISA), and would like to ask to what extent/how solidly these cards are supported under FreeBSD 2.2.1, before I spend any money? Computone's web site didn't even list FreeBSD, so I want to be careful. Please reply to me directly, as I am not subscribed to these two lists. Thanks. Bernie bad@uhf.wireless.net From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 08:11:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA28794 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 08:11:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de [141.31.166.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28789 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 08:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from helbig@localhost) by helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA00702; Sun, 4 May 1997 17:10:50 +0200 (MET DST) From: Wolfgang Helbig Message-Id: <199705041510.RAA00702@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Subject: Re: permissions In-Reply-To: from The Devil Himself at "May 4, 97 07:02:33 am" To: fullermd@narcissus.ml.org (The Devil Himself) Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 17:10:50 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: un_x@anchorage.net, questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > On Sat, 3 May 1997, abc xyz wrote: > > > > > why is it that i can open, modify, and save changes to a > > > > file with r--r--r-- perms (as root)? shouldn't a file be > > > > read only under these conditions? > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > What do you mean, "as root"? > > > > i mean i can do these things as root (2.2.1). > > i guess i should've added that the files ARE > > owner root, group wheel. i don't think i > > should be able to modify such files, but i can. > > it's interesting that you say you can't. > > are you using 2.2.1? > > > > > If the file belongs to root, and you are anyone, including root, then you > > > have a problem. > > > Doesn't sound like a common one, because I had some files on my system > > > r--r--r-- owner root, group wheel, and I got annoyed because I couldn't > > > save changes, even as root. > > This was on a 2.1.6 system. > I've also experienced it on a 2.2-STABLE 4/26/97 system. > I've also come across it on a AIX 3.2.4 (shudder) system. > When you say modify and save changes, how are you doing this? > vi? > pico? > emacs? > echo? > Wasn't there some hole in emacs, about it ignoring file permissions? > I'm pretty sure there was one a while ago about it ignoring ownership... The file permissions are enforced by the kernel, i. e. even if some userland software ignores the permissions, the kernel won't let you write, read or execute in violation of the permission rules. If you are root -- more precisely if your UID is 0 -- the permission rules allow you to read and write regardless of the permission flags and owner of the file in question. To protect a file from root, you have to set the immutable flag with the chflags(1) command. E. g. this is done by the install target of the kernel Makefile to prevent root from hosing the kernel by changing or deleting it accidently. An $ ls -ol /kernel /kernel.old shows the setting of this flag: -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel schg 793551 2 Mai 21:37 /kernel -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel - 788710 26 Apr 19:36 /kernel.old Wolfgang From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 08:50:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA00576 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 08:50:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA00569 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 08:50:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id RAA21992; Sun, 4 May 1997 17:50:39 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA02124; Sun, 4 May 1997 17:35:02 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19970504173502.DZ23359@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 17:35:02 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: joe@pavilion.net (Josef Karthauser) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, john@o-farrell.com Subject: Re: Installing FBSD on a second harddisk. References: <19970504094140.07712@pavilion.net> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <19970504094140.07712@pavilion.net>; from Josef Karthauser on May 4, 1997 09:41:40 +0100 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk (Redirected to -questions.) As Josef Karthauser wrote: > I've noticed in the kernel config that there is a: > kernel boot wd0 > line, but my primary drive is sd0 so I'm confused. This is irrelevant. Unless you boot with -r, the root device will be updated to the boot device. > What's the obvious thing that I'm missing? Enter 1:sd(0,a)/kernel at the boot prompt. RTFM nextboot(8), this might help you. -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-) From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 10:25:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA06070 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:25:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blinx.lizard.org (blinx.wms.co.uk [194.159.247.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06065 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:25:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from flipper@localhost) by blinx.lizard.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) id SAA10583 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 4 May 1997 18:26:52 +0100 (BST) From: Flipper Message-Id: <199705041726.SAA10583@blinx.lizard.org> Subject: CVSup, how to use To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 18:26:51 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've installed cvsup and download src-all, but how do I now compile the newly download files to build -current system? What are the files that have ",v" append to them? Regard F From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 10:30:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA06344 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:30:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from access.kuwait.net (root@access.kuwait.net [194.54.234.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06281 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:29:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prime(really [194.54.235.92]) by access.kuwait.net via sendmail with smtp id for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 20:28:01 +0300 (GMT) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #31 built 1997-May-3) Message-Id: Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Flame" Organization: FOM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 20:29:51 +3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: modem config Reply-to: flame@access.kuwait.net X-Confirm-Reading-To: flame@access.kuwait.net X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.52) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, This might sounds like stupid questions, but if don't ask i will never learn :) Iam having trouble configuring my modem. US Robotics on COM3. I managed to activate COM3 and fix IRQ to 7 but i can't get my modem to respond. 1- how i can make \dev\cuaa0 points to COM3 ? 2- is cuaa0 the only device concerned with the modem? 3- How i can determind the correct settings for drq, iomem, iosize, unit and flags? FREEBSD: 2-2-1 Thanks for your help, v vv v v vvvv v .VVVVVV. //FLAME\\ ^^^^^^^^^ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 10:34:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA06504 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:34:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gravy.kishka.net (root@wyndmoor1-9.slip.netaxs.com [207.8.208.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06499 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:34:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by gravy.kishka.net (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA00178 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 13:34:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 13:34:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Bryan Liesner X-Sender: root@localhost To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: 2.2.1 CDROM installation problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I recently got tired of installing my system via ftp, so I broke down and subscribed to the CDROM distribution. When it arrived, I tore open the box and installed 2.2.1 over 2.2. The installation went flawlessly, as usual (for me anyway). After rebuilding the kernel, I decided to check out some of the packages. Initially, sysinstall refused to mount the cdrom drive, but after a few tries it did mount. I was able to install some of the packages, but only one at a time. After installing one package and going for another I got this error: matcd0: Illegal data mode for this track while reading block xxxxxxx OK, so I used pkg_add and tried to install manually. Same problem. Also, if I tried to install a package with dependencies on other packages, the first package would install, and then it would bomb out with the above error, when pkg_add went for the next file. I'm using a Matshushita CR563 CDROM drive attached to a SB16 card. I never had problems reading other cdroms. This problem is also occurring with the live file system CD that was sent along with the install CD. Anyone have a similar problem? Is my drive hosed? Is there a problem with the matcd driver? ____ | _ \ | |_) |_ __ _ _ __ _ _ __ | _ <| '__| | | |/ _` | '_ \ ====================== | |_) | | | |_| | (_| | | | | = Powered by FreeBSD = |____/|_| \__, |\__,_|_| |_| ====================== __/ | |___/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 10:53:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA07203 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:53:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from narcissus.ml.org (root@brosenga.Pitzer.edu [134.173.120.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07197 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:53:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (fullermd@localhost) by narcissus.ml.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA21509; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:52:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 10:52:33 -0700 (PDT) From: The Devil Himself To: flame@access.kuwait.net cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: modem config In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 4 May 1997, Flame wrote: > Hi, > > This might sounds like stupid questions, but if don't ask i will > never learn :) > Iam having trouble configuring my modem. US Robotics > on COM3. I managed to activate COM3 and fix IRQ to 7 but i can't get > my modem to respond. > > 1- how i can make \dev\cuaa0 points to COM3 ? You don't. > > 2- is cuaa0 the only device concerned with the modem? No: for COM3 you'll want cuaa2/ttyd2; cuaa2 for control, and ttyd2 for the dialin. You'll probably also have to enable sio2 in the bootup by using the -c option. > > 3- How i can determind the correct settings for drq, iomem, iosize, > unit and flags? I don't think you'll need to set any of those... > > FREEBSD: 2-2-1 > > Thanks for your help, > > v > vv v > v vvvv v > .VVVVVV. > //FLAME\\ *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* |FreeBSD is good. FreeBSD is our friend. UNIX is our god.| *Micro$oft is bad. Micro$oft causes problems.* |MicroBSD??? I DON'T THINK SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!| |"I hate quotes in signature files" :-} MAtthew Fuller| *fullermd@narcissus.ml.org FreeBSD junkie* |http://keystone.westminster.edu/~fullermd Westminster College| *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 11:05:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA07755 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 11:05:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kevin.sunshine.net (pme08.sunshine.net [204.191.205.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA07738 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 11:05:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cagey@localhost) by kevin.sunshine.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA04549; Sun, 4 May 1997 11:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 10:59:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin Eliuk Reply-To: Kevin Eliuk To: flame@access.kuwait.net cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: modem config In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 4 May 1997, Flame wrote: > Hi, > > This might sounds like stupid questions, but if don't ask i will > never learn :) > Iam having trouble configuring my modem. US Robotics > on COM3. I managed to activate COM3 and fix IRQ to 7 but i can't get > my modem to respond. > > 1- how i can make \dev\cuaa0 points to COM3 ? I don't know but ... > 2- is cuaa0 the only device concerned with the modem? /dev/cuaa0 - sio0 - COM1 /dev/cuaa1 - sio1 - COM2 /dev/cuaa2 - sio2 - COM > 3- How i can determind the correct settings for drq, iomem, iosize, > unit and flags? > I may be corrected on this one, but I think the probe takes care of this > FREEBSD: 2-2-1 > > Thanks for your help, > > v > vv v > v vvvv v > .VVVVVV. > //FLAME\\ > ^^^^^^^^^ > > > > _______________________________________ |\ /| If I hadn't asked | \ kevin_eliuk@sunshine.net / | the questions I asked, | \ Kevin G. Eliuk / | I wouldn't be answering | /^\_________________________/^\ | the questions I'm answering. | / \ | |/--===### Powered By FreeBSD 2.2.1 \| | www.freebsd.org | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 11:05:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA07796 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 11:05:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.DPCSYS.com [209.25.4.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA07789 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 11:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id SAA01464; Sun, 4 May 1997 18:04:46 GMT Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 11:04:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: flame@access.kuwait.net cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: modem config In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 4 May 1997, Flame wrote: > Iam having trouble configuring my modem. US Robotics > on COM3. I managed to activate COM3 and fix IRQ to 7 but i can't get > my modem to respond. IRQ 7 is a poor choice. That's the default printer IRQ and I think that even disabling lpt0 doesn't change that. Try IRQ 5 which is also the default kernel setting for COM3 > 1- how i can make \dev\cuaa0 points to COM3 ? You don't, use /dev/cuaa2 > 2- is cuaa0 the only device concerned with the modem? There are several cuaaX's and ttydXs too. The cuaa ports are the callout ports, probably what you want. man sio(4) > 3- How i can determind the correct settings for drq, iomem, iosize, > unit and flags? I don't see those options in my kernel config file device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr device sio2 at isa? disable port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 vector siointr device sio3 at isa? disable port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9 vector siointr Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 11:06:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA07816 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 11:06:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cold.org (cold.org [206.81.134.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA07811 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 11:05:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (brandon@localhost) by cold.org (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id MAA06106 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 12:06:01 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 12:06:01 -0600 (MDT) From: Brandon Gillespie To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: 'ntpdate' time server Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I don't want the standard xntpd server, I want a server that you can point 'ntpdate' too along the lines of 'ntpdate foof.com' and it updates your clock. The reason I want this server is I have a firewalled network, and I want servers on the firewall'ed side to somehow get their time sanity from a machine which can sync with others in the world. I figured I could have a server outside the firewall keep in sync with other boxes on the net, and in turn it could be a server for the firewalled side of the network. The connectivity isn't a concern--I can handle that. My only problem is I have no idea how to setup a server that 'ntpdate' will recognize as such. I don't want to setup a continuous xntpd syncing mechanism, I just want to have the firewalled boxes run ntpdate once a night. Help? I've dickered with xntpd trying to get it to do what I want to no avail... -Brandon Gillespie From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 11:11:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA08149 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 11:11:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from narcissus.ml.org (root@brosenga.Pitzer.edu [134.173.120.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA08144 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 11:11:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ben@localhost) by narcissus.ml.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA21609; Sun, 4 May 1997 11:10:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 11:10:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Snob Art Genre To: Adrian Chadd cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why are we still using Perl 4.x .. ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 4 May 1997, Adrian Chadd wrote: > > > > > On both 2.1R and 2.1.5R boxes, Im having this really really weird problem > > with perl. > > This question kinda sparked another one.. > > Why in gods name are we still using Perl 4 in the base distribution? > > That perl 5.00x exploit released on bugtraq a while back.. does anyone > still have a copy of it somewhere? Has anyone tried exploiting suidperl 4 > like that? Suidperl 4.036 is vulnerable. Has this been announced? I wonder whom I should contact to report this if it's not already known. > What exactly is the current status with getting perl 5 into the tree? > > Just curious.. > > Adrian. > > Ben "You have your mind on computers, it seems." From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 11:12:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA08220 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 11:12:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.mankato.msus.edu (Mail.Mankato.MSUS.EDU [134.29.1.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA08213 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 11:12:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from me (Dialin-203.Mankato.MSUS.EDU [134.29.22.65]) by mail.mankato.msus.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA19238 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 13:11:47 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199705041811.NAA19238@mail.mankato.msus.edu> From: "Scott Stafford" To: Subject: g++ Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 13:11:34 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, The computer system at my college runs version 4.4 of the ULTRIX operating system. Is freeBSD comparable to this system? I am interested in using this OS to save me the trouble of logging in and tying up a phone line whenever I need to compile a program. My second Question would be, does it have g++? This is what I use to compile with. Thank you for your time. Scott Stafford From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 11:12:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA08306 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 11:12:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.DPCSYS.com [209.25.4.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA08259 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 11:12:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id SAA01484; Sun, 4 May 1997 18:12:09 GMT Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 11:12:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: ZeR0KeWl cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 3 May 1997, ZeR0KeWl wrote: > I am installing FreeBSD 2.1.7 on my Laptop and im incountering a > problem.. When the install program runs the kernel in the beginning it You probably need the PAO boot disk which I know nothing about, other than it's for laptops. See http://www.jp.FreeBSD.org/PAO/ for more information. Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 11:19:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA08604 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 11:19:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.DPCSYS.com [209.25.4.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA08599 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 11:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id SAA01497; Sun, 4 May 1997 18:19:02 GMT Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 11:19:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: Mike Grommet cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd + BSDI2.1 + rdist = YUCK! In-Reply-To: <199705040540.AAA16459@ns.insolwwb.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 4 May 1997, Mike Grommet wrote: > I figure I will have to reinstall freebsd from scratch and tell it to > install the des encryption method... Just install the DES stuff. The install should link libdescrypt.* to libcrypt.* If it doesn't, manually link each libdescrypt.* to the corresponding libcrytp.* Everything should work fine, but you will have a backup copy of /etc/master.passwd handy, right :) Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 11:42:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA09669 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 11:42:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.airmail.net (mail.airmail.net [206.66.12.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA09664 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 11:42:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dal10-17.ppp.iadfw.net from [206.66.4.51] by mail.airmail.net (/\##/\ Smail3.1.30.16 #30.157) with smtp id ; Sun, 4 May 97 13:42:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: by dal10-17.ppp.iadfw.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BC5891.1B9541C0@dal10-17.ppp.iadfw.net>; Sun, 4 May 1997 13:43:11 -0500 Message-ID: <01BC5891.1B9541C0@dal10-17.ppp.iadfw.net> From: "John D. Morrison" To: "'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: CDROM Driver compatibility Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 13:42:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id LAA09665 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a Sony external CD ROM drive with a SIIG i542 SCSI adapter. I recently installed FreeBSD version 2.2.1, and was forced to do a DOS partition install because FreeBSD doesn't support the SIIG adapter. The adapter came with a diskette having 3 different types of UNIX drivers for it. They are: SCO, IUX, and UNIXWARE. My question is this: Which one of these drivers, if any, would be most likely to work with FreeBSD? John Morrison jdm1intx@airmail.net From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 11:43:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA09743 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 11:43:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iron.Te.NeT.UA (root@iron.Te.NeT.UA [195.138.80.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA09715 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 11:43:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hell.org (d149.TeNeT.Odessa.UA [195.138.80.149]) by iron.Te.NeT.UA (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA00551; Sun, 4 May 1997 21:41:17 +0300 Message-ID: <336CD7AD.41C67EA6@te.net.ua> Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 18:38:37 +0000 From: Sergey Pukach Organization: ARIEL X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Screen trembling Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Can anyone tell me why after setting keymap="ru.koi8-r" and font8x16="koi8-r-8x16" in /etc/sysconfig screen trembling some times per min? Looks like screen refreshing. Is that a problem with my TGUI9440AGi or everything ok? Thanks. pss // Sergey Pukach // pss@te.net.ua From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 11:49:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA10029 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 11:49:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA10024 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 11:49:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-129 [207.14.72.129]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA08934; Sun, 4 May 1997 09:46:12 -0800 Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 01:43:14 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: The Devil Himself cc: abc xyz , freebsd-questions Subject: Re: permissions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > > why is it that i can open, modify, and save changes to a > > > > file with r--r--r-- perms (as root)? shouldn't a file be > > > > read only under these conditions? > > > > > > What do you mean, "as root"? > > > > i mean i can do these things as root (2.2.1). > > i guess i should've added that the files ARE > > owner root, group wheel. i don't think i > > should be able to modify such files, but i can. > > it's interesting that you say you can't. > > are you using 2.2.1? > > > > > If the file belongs to root, and you are anyone, including root, then you > > > have a problem. > This was on a 2.1.6 system. > I've also experienced it on a 2.2-STABLE 4/26/97 system. > I've also come across it on a AIX 3.2.4 (shudder) system. > When you say modify and save changes, how are you doing this? > vi? > pico? > emacs? > echo? > Wasn't there some hole in emacs, about it ignoring file permissions? > I'm pretty sure there was one a while ago about it ignoring ownership... joe editor ... i just checked with "pico" - it will NOT allow me to do as described above. joe is the only one i can say for sure. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 11:54:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA10326 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 11:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA10317 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 11:54:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-129 [207.14.72.129]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA08945; Sun, 4 May 1997 09:51:06 -0800 Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 01:48:08 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: Steve cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Weird perl problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 4 May 1997, Steve wrote: i noticed while opening a few Megs of text files with "joe" editor, my terminal went completely nut, shell and everything, and i have to exit to the login prompt to regain control. i'm not an expert on BSD RAM usage, but i something goes nuts when it gets amxed out. i think perl sucks in that file as one long string into memory. i wonder if it would crash if you chopped the file in 2 or 4 ... > On both 2.1R and 2.1.5R boxes, Im having this really really weird problem > with perl. > > I run wwwstat against apache logs. Lately on a main large install (the > logs being close to or ovre 400MB) the perl script will run, print out > 8192 bytes exactly of report output, then abort with a floating point > exception error message. > > I thought it might be some kind of divide error and wasted weeks putting > in checks before any math operations. > > Then finally I put in an echo check - just a line to spew out some > iteration information, and the point the program stopped at changed, I > mean what secton of the report it was on when it aborted - but again, the > report itself was exactly 8192 bytes in size. > > The report goes to stdout which I use >filename to trap in a file. > > Any ideas? Im going crasy! > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 12:04:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA10936 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 12:04:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA10928 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 12:04:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-129 [207.14.72.129]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA09001; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:01:25 -0800 Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 01:58:26 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: Wolfgang Helbig cc: The Devil Himself , un_x@anchorage.net, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: permissions In-Reply-To: <199705041510.RAA00702@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > The file permissions are enforced by the kernel, i. e. even if some > userland software ignores the permissions, the kernel won't let > you write, read or execute in violation of the permission rules. > If you are root -- more precisely if your UID is 0 -- the permission > rules allow you to read and write regardless of the permission > flags and owner of the file in question. > To protect a file from root, you have to set the immutable flag > with the chflags(1) command. E. g. this is done by the install > target of the kernel Makefile to prevent root from hosing the kernel > by changing or deleting it accidently. > An > $ ls -ol /kernel /kernel.old > shows the setting of this flag: > > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel schg 793551 2 Mai 21:37 /kernel > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel - 788710 26 Apr 19:36 /kernel.old what's the purpose of the "uchg" flag for users then ... ? i can't write to a r--r--r-- file (owner=user, group=user) as a user ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 12:18:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA11619 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 12:18:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA11614 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 12:18:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-129 [207.14.72.129]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA09083; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:14:56 -0800 Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 02:11:58 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: Brandon Gillespie cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 'ntpdate' time server In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 4 May 1997, Brandon Gillespie wrote: > I don't want the standard xntpd server, I want a server that you can point > 'ntpdate' too along the lines of 'ntpdate foof.com' and it updates your > clock. The reason I want this server is I have a firewalled network, and > I want servers on the firewall'ed side to somehow get their time sanity > from a machine which can sync with others in the world. I figured I could > have a server outside the firewall keep in sync with other boxes on the > net, and in turn it could be a server for the firewalled side of the > network. The connectivity isn't a concern--I can handle that. My only > problem is I have no idea how to setup a server that 'ntpdate' will > recognize as such. I don't want to setup a continuous xntpd syncing > mechanism, I just want to have the firewalled boxes run ntpdate once a > night. Help? I've dickered with xntpd trying to get it to do what I want > to no avail... i'm not really into this area - but have you checked out "timed"? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 12:21:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA11936 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 12:21:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aheffner.netnet.net (newtburg-11.lakefield.net [206.40.98.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11924 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 12:20:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from spock@localhost) by aheffner.netnet.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA00182 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 4 May 1997 14:19:09 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 14:19:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Spock Message-Id: <199705041919.OAA00182@aheffner.netnet.net> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Probing Hardware Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I would like to install my cd-rom drive and my sound card, but i don't know the irq, drq, i/o addresses of them. I have win95 running on my first drive, but i went to the device manager in win95 and wrote down the irq,drq, i/o addresses that it said the hardware was at, but when i boot with "-c" and go into visual, and use those numbers, freebsd still can't find the devices. I've tried using all possible different combinations, but it still won't find the hardware. Is there any way to easily find out the addresses of the hardware, or have it probe all addresses or something, until it finds the devices? Thanx, Michael Heffner aheffner@lakefield.net From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 13:14:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA14472 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 13:14:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from florence.pavilion.net (mailrelay1.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA14459 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 13:14:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from joe@localhost) by florence.pavilion.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA23044; Sun, 4 May 1997 21:14:08 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <19970504211408.00627@pavilion.net> Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 21:14:08 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: Joerg Wunsch Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, john@o-farrell.com Subject: Re: Installing FBSD on a second harddisk. References: <19970504094140.07712@pavilion.net> <19970504173502.DZ23359@uriah.heep.sax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <19970504173502.DZ23359@uriah.heep.sax.de>; from J Wunsch on Sun, May 04, 1997 at 05:35:02PM +0200 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, May 04, 1997 at 05:35:02PM +0200, J Wunsch wrote: > > > What's the obvious thing that I'm missing? > > Enter > > 1:sd(0,a)/kernel > > at the boot prompt. RTFM nextboot(8), this might help you. I don't appear to have a 'nextboot' man page under 2.1.7. I'll go check the web site, maybe it'll show up on a later version. Joe -- Josef Karthauser Technical Manager Email: joe@pavilion.net Pavilion Internet plc. [Tel: +44 1273 607072 Fax: +44 1273 607073] From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 13:36:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA15849 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 13:36:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA15842 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 13:36:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (shovey@buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA06825 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 16:37:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 16:36:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: java compiler Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there a java compiler for freebsd? Im not having much luck finding anything but one for win95. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 13:38:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA15956 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 13:38:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA15951 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 13:38:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (shovey@buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA06842; Sun, 4 May 1997 16:39:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 16:38:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve To: Steve Howe cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Weird perl problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 4 May 1997, Steve Howe wrote: > On Sun, 4 May 1997, Steve wrote: > > i noticed while opening a few Megs of text files with "joe" editor, > my terminal went completely nut, shell and everything, and i have > to exit to the login prompt to regain control. i'm not an expert > on BSD RAM usage, but i something goes nuts when it gets amxed out. > i think perl sucks in that file as one long string into memory. > i wonder if it would crash if you chopped the file in 2 or 4 ... The thing is, it load the data and does the math, and is done with the file. Its when it print out what it found is when it chokes - and at 8192 bytes. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 13:43:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA16288 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 13:43:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kevin.sunshine.net (pme53.sunshine.net [204.191.205.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16271; Sun, 4 May 1997 13:43:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cagey@localhost) by kevin.sunshine.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA04702; Sun, 4 May 1997 13:39:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 13:39:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin Eliuk Reply-To: Kevin Eliuk To: Roger Browne cc: FreeBSD-questions , FreeBSD-Doc Subject: Re: installing via ftp In-Reply-To: <336CD9DA.BF5@kendaco.telebyte.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 4 May 1997, Roger Browne wrote: > Just a quick note :) > > The most confusing thing for me so far is running the ppp term program! > > - I got the phone number, user name and password entered ok > - on advice from a third party I disabled lqr > - type dial and get dial ok! login ok! packet mode on > (approximately) > - and then it sits - could be i'm just not patient enough but it will > stay that way over 5 minutes You are able to tell if you have made connection if `ppp ON' Changes to `PPP ON' This to is in the handbook. > - tried for the heck of it to alt-F1 back and see if maybe I AM > hooked up - but i get a DNS lookup failure - so I presume I am not > connected. > If I assume correctly, you are dealing with an ISP that uses `Dynamic PPP' My best luck in this was to assign, in the setup window, IP Address [0.0.0.0] and Gateway [0.0.0.0] and then when the dial and login was complete the ISP machine (I assume) has a free riegn on assigning the addresses it wants to. This is my own experience and would not in anyway say it is suggested by FreeBSD. > My vote :) more docs on that please :) > > I'm planning to just ftp the bin and man dirs for now and try from dos > partition. You may want to consider the disk install if these are the only 'distributions' you are going to install in the beginning. I know first hand that 2.2.1-RELEASE/bin requires 15 - 1.44MB's Instructions for this is in INSTALL.TXT at the top of 2.2.1-RELEASE _______________________________________ |\ /| If I hadn't asked | \ kevin_eliuk@sunshine.net / | the questions I asked, | \ Kevin G. Eliuk / | I wouldn't be answering | /^\_________________________/^\ | the questions I'm answering. | / \ | |/--===### Powered By FreeBSD 2.2.1 \| | www.freebsd.org | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 14:27:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA18038 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 14:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.cdrom.com [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18033 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 14:27:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netcom17.netcom.com (stanb@netcom17.netcom.com [192.100.81.130]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA06854 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 14:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from stanb@localhost) by netcom17.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id RAA23722; Sun, 4 May 1997 17:27:04 -0400 From: stanb@netcom.com (Stan Brown) Message-Id: <199705042127.RAA23722@netcom17.netcom.com> Subject: HPIB disk drives via gp driver ? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.com (Free BSD Questions list) Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 17:27:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have recently come inot possesion of a GPIB interface card for the ISA bus, and a number of HPIB disk drives. Since there is no such thing as enough disk space, and since I have used up all of the address space for these drives on my HP worksation, I was wondering if there was a way to use thes under FreeBSD? Some kind soul pointed me to the gp driver for the controler card, but I neeeda bit more of a clue than that on how to configure my kernel etc. Thanks. -- Stan Brown stanb@netcom.com 404-996-6955 Factory Automation Systems Atlanta Ga. -- Look, look, see Windows 95. Buy, lemmings, buy! Pay no attention to that cliff ahead... Henry Spencer (c) 1997 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 14:35:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA18505 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 14:35:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pericles.aipo.gov.au (pericles.aipo.gov.au [202.14.186.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18500 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 14:35:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Stanley.Hopcroft@aipo.gov.au Received: (from smap@localhost) by pericles.aipo.gov.au (8.8.5/8.6.12) id IAA20002 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:31:59 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: pericles.aipo.gov.au: smap set sender to using -f Received: from notes.aipo.gov.au(192.3.1.11) by pericles.aipo.gov.au via smap (V1.3) id sma020000; Mon May 5 08:31:42 1997 Received: by notes.aipo.gov.au(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.05b4 (287.3 12-16-1996)) id 4A25648D.00760B8A ; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:29:22 +1000 X-Lotus-FromDomain: INTERNET To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <4A25648D.00760ACF.00@notes.aipo.gov.au> Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 07:05:49 +1000 Subject: Problems with Soundblaster/CR-563 & FreeBSD2.2.1_RELEASE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear Ladies and Gentlemen, I a writing to ask your help with using a Creative Labs CR-563-B CD-ROM connected with a 40 pin ribbon cable to the Panasonic connector of a Soundblaster 16 card. When I boot the PC with the 2.2.1-RELEASE boot floppy, the probe messages report that matcd not found at 0x230 (or 0x220, 240, 250 260, 270 280 when I try changing the parameters in 'visual' mode). The Soundblaster card also has connectors marked IDE, MITZUMI and SONY but has no jumpers for port address. I have not used it with an other OS, so while I think its OK I can't be sure. Since the problem PC already has FreeBSD2.1.6-RELEASE on it, I built a kernel with a "device matcd ..." line. When this kernel booted it reported matcd not found at 0x230. Thank you, S Hopcroft Australian Industrial Property Organisation PS For those like me who didn't know about the Internet in 1988 Mr Clifford Stoll in the last chapter of "The Cuckoos Egg" describes his encounter with the Internet Worm, and his interractions with Dr Bob Morris, the father of the Robert T Morris who wrote - or produced - the internet worm. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 14:52:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA19117 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 14:52:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de [141.31.166.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA19111 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 14:52:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from helbig@localhost) by helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA01047; Sun, 4 May 1997 23:52:13 +0200 (MET DST) From: Wolfgang Helbig Message-Id: <199705042152.XAA01047@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Subject: Re: CDROM Driver compatibility In-Reply-To: <01BC5891.1B9541C0@dal10-17.ppp.iadfw.net> from "John D. Morrison" at "May 4, 97 01:42:49 pm" To: jdm1intx@airmail.net (John D. Morrison) Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 23:52:12 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have a Sony external CD ROM drive with a SIIG i542 SCSI adapter. I recently installed FreeBSD version 2.2.1, and was forced to do a DOS partition install because FreeBSD doesn't support the SIIG adapter. The adapter came with a diskette having 3 different types of UNIX drivers for it. They are: SCO, IUX, and UNIXWARE. My question is this: Which one of these drivers, if any, would be most likely to work with FreeBSD? > Probably none of those. But you might find a support mailing list from Sony, maybe they are able and willing to provide a driver for FreeBSD 2.2.1. PS Please break your lines at about 70 characters, it's much easier to read here than w/o any line breaks. Thank you Wolfgang From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 14:57:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA19291 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 14:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ccsales.ccsales.com ([207.137.172.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA19283; Sun, 4 May 1997 14:57:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rkntws40casa ([207.137.172.40]) by ccsales.ccsales.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA06104; Sun, 4 May 1997 15:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970504144832.009b9a00@ccsales.com> X-Sender: randyk@ccsales.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 14:48:32 -0700 To: questions@freebsd.org, support@freebsd.org From: "Randy A. Katz" Subject: Re: A Question On Popper In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970501080905.009b9470@ccsales.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I posted this before with no response... At 08:09 AM 5/1/97 -0700, Randy A. Katz wrote: >My pop3 has been working great for a long time but I recently ran into a >scenario: > >host1.domain1.com > DNS > POP3 > RADIUS for PPP dialups > >host1.domain2.com > Web Host > Telnet Users, No PPP > >My pop account is at host1.domain1.com it serves my mail fine. When I try >to send mail to someone@domain2.com my mailer complains. Eudora says the >recipient is unnaccepable to the smtp server. Netscape says mail server >responded ... User unknown. > >Does anyone know why this might happen? > >I checked host1.domain1.com if it's able to see the other host, ping it, >finger it, it all looks fine. I even tried putting an MX entry to >domain1.com for domain2.com...no change. > >Thanx, >Randy Katz > > From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 15:08:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA19660 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 15:08:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ipad1-vdn.vdn.com (ipad1-vdn.vdn.com [206.13.41.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA19655 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 15:08:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localname ([206.13.41.30]) by ipad1-vdn.vdn.com with SMTP (IPAD 1.51) id 2649400 ; Sun, 04 May 1997 15:03:16 EST Message-ID: <336D082D.1271@vdn.com> Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 15:05:33 -0700 From: Eric Schell Reply-To: eschell@vdn.com Organization: Independent Consulting X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Should I? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings! I am considering a tryout of the FreeBSD system, and would like to know more about it. I recently upgraded to a 133Mhz 486 machine with 16 Meg of RAM. I would like to have a 32-bit OS running on it, but I am not all that enchanted with Windoze95. I hope to see faster performance with a 32-bit OS, esp during on-line sessions; I use Netscape 3 w/Java. So how do I obtain the UNIX (LINUX?) version of Netscape? E From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 15:33:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA20415 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 15:33:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rma.edu (rma.edu [207.0.141.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA20409 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 15:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alwan.rma.edu ([207.0.141.25]) by rma.edu with ESMTP (IPAD 1.52) id 3126800 ; Sun, 04 May 1997 18:31:48 EST Message-ID: <336D0E2D.823C29D2@rma.edu> Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 18:31:09 -0400 From: Michael Alwan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3C (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: where is everybody?? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk To all: Normally my mail from the various FreeBSD mailing list runs about 70-100 messages a day. Suddenly I'm getting nothing. I'm guessing this is because school is out for the summer. Am I right, or do I need to re-subscribe to the lists (maybe my ISP screwed something up when they installed their new nameserver. Thanks, Michael From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 15:35:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA20673 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 15:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA20659; Sun, 4 May 1997 15:35:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199705042235.PAA20659@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: A Question On Popper To: randyk@ccsales.com (Randy A. Katz) Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 15:35:48 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, support@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970504144832.009b9a00@ccsales.com> from "Randy A. Katz" at May 4, 97 02:48:32 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Randy A. Katz wrote: > > I posted this before with no response... > > > At 08:09 AM 5/1/97 -0700, Randy A. Katz wrote: > >My pop3 has been working great for a long time but I recently ran into a > >scenario: > > > >host1.domain1.com > > DNS > > POP3 > > RADIUS for PPP dialups > > > >host1.domain2.com > > Web Host > > Telnet Users, No PPP > > > >My pop account is at host1.domain1.com it serves my mail fine. When I try > >to send mail to someone@domain2.com my mailer complains. Eudora says the > >recipient is unnaccepable to the smtp server. Netscape says mail server > >responded ... User unknown. Randy, without real hostnames the problem is somewhat abstract and therefore hard to diagnose. can you divulge the real names? the responses of eudora and netscape match sort of, user unknown being the real result and its translation for the masses could be "recipient is unnaccepable to the smtp server". sounds like the user "someone" does not exist at "host1.domain2.com". jmb From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 15:46:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA21086 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 15:46:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from foo.primenet.com (ip193.sjc.primenet.com [206.165.96.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA21079 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 15:46:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bkogawa@localhost) by foo.primenet.com (8.8.2/8.6.12) id PAA04988; Sun, 4 May 1997 15:42:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 15:42:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705042242.PAA04988@foo.primenet.com> To: shovey@buffnet.net Subject: Re: Weird perl problem Newsgroups: localhost.freebsd.questions References: <> From: "Bryan K. Ogawa" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Steve Howe X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #1 (NOV) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In localhost.freebsd.questions you write: >On Sun, 4 May 1997, Steve Howe wrote: >> On Sun, 4 May 1997, Steve wrote: >> >> i noticed while opening a few Megs of text files with "joe" editor, >> my terminal went completely nut, shell and everything, and i have >> to exit to the login prompt to regain control. i'm not an expert >> on BSD RAM usage, but i something goes nuts when it gets amxed out. >> i think perl sucks in that file as one long string into memory. >> i wonder if it would crash if you chopped the file in 2 or 4 ... >The thing is, it load the data and does the math, and is done with the >file. Its when it print out what it found is when it chokes - and at 8192 >bytes. It sounds like output is getting aborted too soon. Perl automatically buffers input/output. You can try to turn this off using select (FILEHANDLE_TO_UNBUFFER); $| = 1; That way, output gets written as it goes, which may help you to find your error, at least. Question: How does this script load the file? How is it storing it internally? Are you running out of swap space? As the above poster mentioned, perl can consume all of memory without significant effort. If the program loads in more than one line at a time, this can be a possibility. For example, while(<>) { chop; # do rest of processing here, and store the results } Will only use 1 line of buffer at a time (plus data structure usage), while things like unset($/); $file = ; # process entire file here will load all of the file in question into memory (in $file) before doing anything. This probably isn't your problem, although certain types of analysis can use up tremendous amounts of memory (depending on various parameters) -- for example, many scripts use associative arrays to mark: used files visiting hosts so memory usage will be proportional to the # of files and the number of visiting hosts. Hope that helps. bryan -- bryan k ogawa http://www.primenet.com/~bkogawa/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 16:00:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA21846 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 16:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kevin.sunshine.net (pme42.sunshine.net [204.191.205.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA21837 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 16:00:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cagey@localhost) by kevin.sunshine.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA04864; Sun, 4 May 1997 15:55:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 15:55:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin Eliuk Reply-To: Kevin Eliuk To: Michael Alwan cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: where is everybody?? In-Reply-To: <336D0E2D.823C29D2@rma.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 4 May 1997, Michael Alwan wrote: >To all: > >Normally my mail from the various FreeBSD mailing list runs about 70-100 >messages a day. Suddenly I'm getting nothing. I'm guessing this is >because school is out for the summer. Am I right, or do I need to >re-subscribe to the lists (maybe my ISP screwed something up when they >installed their new nameserver. > I see you. The same thing happened to me early last week and then all of a sudden it started flooding in. I'm not sure why. To test your ISP theory sent to majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG with 'who freebsd-questions' in the body. It's eery when this happens :-{ _______________________________________ |\ /| If I hadn't asked | \ kevin_eliuk@sunshine.net / | the questions I asked, | \ Kevin G. Eliuk / | I wouldn't be answering | /^\_________________________/^\ | the questions I'm answering. | / \ | |/--===### Powered By FreeBSD 2.2.1 \| | www.freebsd.org | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 16:22:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA22541 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 16:22:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lariat.lariat.org ([129.72.251.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA22535 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 16:22:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from solo.lariat.org ([129.72.251.10]) by lariat.lariat.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA01364 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 17:21:31 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970504172100.006ee1d0@lariat.org> X-Sender: brett@lariat.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 17:21:00 -0600 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Brett Glass Subject: How good are intermediate versions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm working with a lightly-loaded machine that's used primarily for networking tasks. It does a little Web service and some PPP via "dumb" UARTs. It has an EISA motherboard and an Adaptec EISA SCSI Twin host adapter. (I'm not sure which chips it uses, but they might be the ones with which Justin was having some headaches.) The machine is still running 2.1.5, with patches to close security holes. I am considering upgrading it to either: a) 2.2.1-R; b) The 4/22/97 snapshot of the 2.2 "RELENG" branch (Why isn't it called something like 2.2.5-SNAP?); or c) The 5/2/97 snapshot of 3.0-current. Which would work best, given the model of SCSI adapter and the stability of the various releases? --Brett From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 16:51:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA23613 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 16:51:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de [141.31.166.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA23606 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 16:51:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from helbig@localhost) by helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA01319; Mon, 5 May 1997 01:25:42 +0200 (MET DST) From: Wolfgang Helbig Message-Id: <199705042325.BAA01319@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Subject: Re: permissions In-Reply-To: from Steve Howe at "May 4, 97 01:58:26 am" To: un_x@anchorage.net (Steve Howe) Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 01:25:41 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: helbig@MX.BA-Stuttgart.De, fullermd@narcissus.ml.org, un_x@anchorage.net, questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > The file permissions are enforced by the kernel, i. e. even if some > > userland software ignores the permissions, the kernel won't let > > you write, read or execute in violation of the permission rules. > > > If you are root -- more precisely if your UID is 0 -- the permission > > rules allow you to read and write regardless of the permission > > flags and owner of the file in question. > > > To protect a file from root, you have to set the immutable flag > > with the chflags(1) command. E. g. this is done by the install > > target of the kernel Makefile to prevent root from hosing the kernel > > by changing or deleting it accidently. > > > An > > > $ ls -ol /kernel /kernel.old > > > shows the setting of this flag: > > > > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel schg 793551 2 Mai 21:37 /kernel > > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel - 788710 26 Apr 19:36 /kernel.old > > what's the purpose of the "uchg" flag for users then ... ? > i can't write to a r--r--r-- file (owner=user, group=user) > as a user ... But anyone with write permission for the directory and the superuser are free to move or delete the file. This is not the case if the uchg flag is set. The motivation behind these file flags is not to protect the authorized user from his own mistakes but to enhance security. An intruder who managed to become superuser will not be able to change the schg if the system is running in secure mode (security level one). Wolfgang From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 17:02:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA23935 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 17:02:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from grog@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA23922 for FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 4 May 1997 17:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 17:02:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Lehey Message-Id: <199705050002.RAA23922@hub.freebsd.org> To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. =================================================== Last update 17 October 1996. This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. If you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your message: - You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate. - You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read. - You asked more than one unrelated question in one message. - You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone. - You sent out the same message more than once. - You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions. If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you will get more than one copy of this message from different people. Read on, and your next message will be more successful. ===================================================================== Contents: I: Introduction II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions III: How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions IV: How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions I: Introduction =============== This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the "newcomers"), and also those who answer the questions (the "hackers"). Note that the term "hacker" has nothing to do with break- ing into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter activity is "cracker", but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. In the following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that, we'll look at how to answer one. II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions ============================================== When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message from Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG. In this message, amongst other things, it told you how to unsubscribe. Here's a typical message: Welcome to the freebsd-questions mailing list! If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to "Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG" with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe freebsd-questions Greg Lehey Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one which you specified when you subscribed. If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on the list, this may mean that you have changed your mail ID since you subscribed. In this case, you do need to tell Majordomo the correct name, and that's when the welcome message from Majordomo comes in handy. If you have not kept it, all is not lost. Send a message to majordomo asking for the list of the members of the group. In the text of the message, write: who freebsd-questions The names returned in the list are not all individual mail IDs: you'll see a number of names like: freebsd-questions-list@datatec.com freebsd-questions-redist@news.uni-stuttgart.de incoming-freebsd-questions@cisco.com freebsd-questions@clinet.fi freebsd-questions@mcs.anl.gov If you're on one of these lists, you'll have to figure out which one it is and get your name taken off that one. If you're not sure which one it might be, check the headers of the messages you receive from freebsd-questions: maybe there's a clue there. IF ALL ELSE FAILS ----------------- If you've done all this, and you still can't figure out what's going on, send a message to Postmaster@FreeBSD.ORG, and he will sort things out for you. DON'T send a message to FreeBSD-questions: they can't help you. III: How to submit a question ============================== When submitting a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider the following points: 1. Remember that nobody gets paid for answering a FreeBSD question. They do it of their own free will. You can influence this free will positively by submitting a well-formulated question supplying as much relevant information as possible. You can influence this free will negatively by submitting an incomplete, illegible, or rude question. It's perfectly possible to send a message to FreeBSD-questions and not get an answer. In the rest of this document, we'll look at how to get the most out of your question to FreeBSD-questions. 2. Not everybody who answers FreeBSD questions reads every message: they look at the subject line and decide whether it interests them. Clearly, it's in your interest to specify a subject. "FreeBSD problem" or "Help" aren't enough. If you provide no subject at all, many people won't bother reading it. If your subject isn't specific enough, the people who can answer it may not read it. 3. Format your message so that it is legible, and PLEASE DON'T SHOUT!!!!!. We appreciate that a lot of people don't speak English as their first language, and we try to make allowances for that, but it's really painful to try to read a message written full of typos or without any line breaks. A lot of badly formatted messages come from bad mailers. The mailers in the Microsoft world are frequent offenders. If at all possible, use a UNIX mailer. If you must use a mailer under Microsoft environments, make sure it is set up correctly. Try not to use MIME: a lot of people use mailers which don't get on very well with MIME. 4. Make sure your time and time zone are set correctly. This may seem a little silly, since your message still gets there, but many of the people you are trying to reach get several hundred messages a day. They frequently sort the incoming messages by subject and by date, and if your message doesn't come before the first answer, they may assume they missed it and not bother to look. 5. Don't include unrelated questions in the same message. Firstly, a long message tends to scare people off, and secondly, it's more difficult to get all the people who can answer all the questions to read the message. 6. Specify as much information as possible. This is a difficult area, and we need to expand on what information you need to submit, but here's a start: - If you get error messages, don't say "I get error messages", say (for example) "I get the error message 'No route to host'". - If your system panics, don't say "My system panicked", say (for example) "my system panicked with the message 'free vnode isn't'". - If you have difficulty installing FreeBSD, please tell us what hardware you have. In particular, it's important to know the IRQs and I/O addresses of the boards installed in your machine. 7. If you do all this, and you still don't get an answer, there could be other reasons. For example, the problem is so complicated that nobody knows the answer, or the person who does know the answer was offline. If you don't get an answer after, say, a week, it might help to re-send the message. If you don't get an answer to your second message, though, you're probably not going to get one from this forum. Resending the same message again and again will only make you unpopular. To summarize, let's assume you know the answer to the following question. You choose which of these two questions you would be more prepared to answer: Message 1: Subject: (none) I just can't get hits damn silly FereBSD system to workd, and Im really good at this tsuff, but I have never seen anythign sho difficult to install, it jst wont work whatever I try so why don't y9ou guys tell me what I doing wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message 2: Subject: Problems installing FreeBSD I've just got the FreeBSD 2.1.5 CD-ROM from Walnut Creek, and I'm having a lot of difficulty installing it. I have a 66 MHz 486 with 16 MB of memory and an Adaptec 1540A SCSI board, a 1.2GB Quantum Fireball disk and a Toshiba 3501XA CD-ROM drive. The installation works just fine, but when I try to reboot the system, I get the message "Missing Operating System". ---------------------------------------------------------------------- IV: How to answer a question ============================ Before you answer a question to FreeBSD-questions, consider: 1. A lot of the points on submitting questions also apply to answering questions. Read them. 2. Has somebody already answered the question? The easiest way to check this is to sort your incoming mail by subject: then (hopefully) you'll see the question followed by any answers, all together. If somebody has already answered it, it doesn't automatically mean that you shouldn't send another answer. But it makes sense to read all the other answers first. 3. Do you have something to contribute beyond what has already been said? In general, "Yeah, me too" answers don't help much, although there are exceptions, like when somebody is describing a problem he's having, and he doesn't know whether it's his fault or whether there's something wrong with the hardware or software. If you do send a "me too" answer, you should also include any further relevant information. 4. Are you sure your answer is correct? If not, wait a day or so. If nobody else comes up with a better answer, you can still reply and say, for example, "I don't know if this is correct, but since nobody else has replied, why don't you try replacing your ATAPI CD-ROM with a frog?". 5. Don't do a group reply; lots of people send messages with hundreds of CCs. Unless there's a good reason to do otherwise, just reply to the person and copy FreeBSD-questions. 6. Trim the original message to the minimum, and use some technique to identify which text came from the original message, and which text you add. I personally find that prepending "> " to the original message works best. Leaving white space after the ">" and leave empty lines between your text and the original text both make the result more readable. Most mailers change the subject line on a reply by prepending a text such as "Re: ". If your mailer doesn't do it automatically, you should do it manually. If the submitter didn't abide by format conventions (lines too long, inappropriate subject line), *please* fix it. In the case of an incorrect subject line (such as "HELP!!??"), change the subject line to (say) "Re: Difficulties with sync PPP (was: HELP!!??)". That way other people trying to follow the thread will have less difficulty following it. In such cases, it's appropriate to say what you did and why you did it, but try not to be rude. If you find you can't answer without being rude, don't answer. If you just want to reply to a message because of its bad format, just reply to the submitter, not to the list. You can just send him this message in reply, if you like. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 17:02:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA23936 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 17:02:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from grog@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA23924 for FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 4 May 1997 17:02:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 17:02:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Lehey Message-Id: <199705050002.RAA23924@hub.freebsd.org> To: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Errata and addenda in "The Complete FreeBSD" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, "The Complete FreeBSD", published by Walnut Creek, is no exception. Since going to press, a number of anomalies have surfaced. The following is a list of modifications which go beyond simple typos. They relate to the first edition, formatted on 19 July 1996 (at the time of writing the only edition that is available). If you have this book, please check this list. I apply these changes to the current source of the book, so if you buy a later edition, they will be in it as well. If you find a bug or a suspected bug in the book, please contact me (grog@freebsd.org). --- Changes: 5 December 1996 --- Page 192: Middle of the page, the indented small print comment. Replace with: If your system doesn't have the directory /usr/src/sys, then the kernel source has not been installed. To install from the CD-ROM, perform the following steps: # mkdir -p /usr/src/sys # ln -s /usr/src/sys /sys # cd / # cat /cdrom/dists/src/sys.* | tar xzvf - The symbolic link /sys for /usr/src/sys is not strictly necessary, but it's a good idea: some software uses it, and otherwise you may end up with two different copies of the sources. --- Changes: 28 November 1996 --- Page 135, second paragraph: replace with In addition, you may need to create the device nodes if they don't already exist. By default, the system contains four virtual terminal devices in the /dev directory. If you use more than this number, you must create them, either with MAKEDEV (see page 162), or with mknod (see page 573). When calculating how many devices you need, note that if you intend to run X11, you need a terminal device without a getty for the X server. For example, if you have enabled /dev/ttyv3, /dev/ttyv4, and /dev/ttyv5, and you also want to run X, you will need a total of 7 virtual terminals (/dev/ttyv0 through /dev/ttyv6). With MAKEDEV, you specify how many virtual terminals you need: # cd /dev # ./MAKEDEV vty7 make 7 vtys Alternatively, you can do this with mknod: # cd /dev # ls -l ttyv0 crw------- 1 root wheel 12, 0 Nov 28 10:25 ttyv0 # mknod ttyv3 c 12 3 # mknod ttyv4 c 12 4 # mknod ttyv5 c 12 5 # mknod ttyv6 c 12 6 In this example, you list the entry for /dev/ttyv0 in order to check the major device number of the virtual terminals (that's the 12, in this example; it may change from one release to another). You need to specify this number to mknod. For more details about major and minor device numbers, see page 160. --- Changes: 20 November 1996 --- Figure 10-4, page 172: The devices in the FreeBSD slice are called /dev/sd1s2a through /dev/sd1s2h, not /dev/sd1s3a through /dev/sd1s3h as shown. Figure 10-6, page 176: The devices in the FreeBSD slice are *still* called /dev/sd1s2a through /dev/sd1s2h, not /dev/sd1s1a through /dev/sd1s1h as shown. (Well, at least the average turned out right :-) The man page section (pages 225 to 766) was sorted by ASCII name of the man page, with the result that the man pages whose names start with upper-case letters come before those whose names start with lower-case letters. Sorry about that. If you're looking for a man page, probably the best place to start is in the Table of Contents on page vi. The man pages are really just excerpts. The total FreeBSD man pages format to some 6,000 pages, far more than I could possibly put in this book. --- Changes: 1 November 1996 --- Major changes: 1. No difference in installation from ATAPI CD-ROM drives. When "The Complete FreeBSD" was written, you still needed a separate installation procedure for installing from ATAPI CD-ROM drives. This is no longer the case. The following modifications to the text come as a result: Page 14, table: Remove references to atapiflp.bat and inst_ide.bat. FreeBSD 2.1.5 no longer has separate boot floppies and installation procedures for ATAPI CD-ROM drives. Page 29: Remove the text "You will also need a different boot disk (/cdrom/floppies/atapi.flp). If you are creating the boot floppy with MS-DOS, you can use the file ATAPIFLP.BAT to create the floppy." The resultant text reads: IDE CD-ROM drives, more properly called ATAPI CD-ROM drives, are a new kind of CD-ROM drive which connect to the same controller as your IDE hard disk. Currently, FreeBSD 2.1.5 support for ATAPI CD-ROM drives is in alpha test. In order to install from an ATAPI CD-ROM, the drive must be jumpered as slave device. The installation may or may not work--please let us know if it doesn't, especially if you can give us some indication about the cause of the trouble. You can also create this boot diskette with the aid of the VIEW program (see Chapter 4, Installing FreeBSD, page 38). Page 35: Remove the points referring to atapi.flp. The text for the third box from the bottom of the page should read: If the direct boot doesn't work, you will need to make a boot floppy, which may be either a 3 1/2" or a 5 1/4" diskette. Create a boot floppy by copying the image /cdrom/boot.flp to diskette. Refer to Chapter 2, Installing FreeBSD, page 39. If you have an IDE (ATAPI) CD-ROM drive, see also the section on this kind of drive in Chapter 2, Installation Concepts, page 29. Page 43, after first example: remove references to ATAPI. The resultant text should read: Don't try this from MS Windows--the installation will fail with the message not enough memory. The boot will progress in the same way as if you had booted from floppy. The advantage of starting VIEW is that you get more documentation: ultimately VIEW will start INSTALL to boot the system. INSTALL doesn't always work. It depends on what drivers or TSRs are in your system. There's no reason to try changing your MS-DOS configuration to get it to work: it's a lot easier just to boot from floppy (see page 38 for further information). 2. Changes to section on installing a second disk. Page 170: The bottom paragraph should read: When the message Three seconds until format begins... appears, you can still change your mind by hitting CTRL-C before the message Formatting... appears. After that, you can't stop the format: most disks can perform a format by themselves, so scsiformat just issues the command to format the disk. Since there is no SCSI bus activity, the disk activity lamp will also not light up, and since the scsiformat program will just be waiting and not using any CPU time, you could easily get the impression the nothing is going on. The disk format can take a long time--depending on the disk, up to 90 minutes. Page 173, after table 10-5: Add the text If you're unlucky, fdisk will give you a completely different idea of the disk geometry from what scsiformat did. Possibly you can decide by examination which program is wrong, or maybe you can look at the dmesg output for a tie-breaker. In all cases I have seen, it has been fdisk that returned the incorrect information, and only when the disk did not have a valid partition table. For example, this happened with a disk formatted for BSD/OS: # scsiformat sd1 MICROP 2112-15MQ1094802 HQ48 Mode data length: 35 Medium type: 0 Device Specific Parameter: 0 Block descriptor length: 8 Density code: 0 Number of blocks: 2051615 Reserved: 0 Block length: 512 PS: 1 Reserved: 0 Page code: 4 Page length: 22 Number of Cylinders: 1760 Number of Heads: 15 Starting Cylinder-Write Precompensation: 0 Starting Cylinder-Reduced Write Current: 0 Drive Step Rate: 0 Landing Zone Cylinder: 0 Reserved: 0 RPL: 0 Rotational Offset: 0 Reserved: 0 Medium Rotation Rate: 5400 Reserved: 0 Reserved: 0 # fdisk sd1 ******* Working on device /dev/rsd1 ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=160 heads=256 sectors/track=50 (12800 blks/cyl) Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1 parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=160 heads=256 sectors/track=50 (12800 blks/cyl) Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 0 is: sysid 255,(BBT (Bad Blocks Table)) start 1023744, size 2108293151 (1029440 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 768/ sector 15/ head 147; end: cyl 0/ sector 0/ head 255 The data for partition 1 is: sysid 101,(Novell Netware 3.xx) start 1646292846, size 1814062195 (885772 Meg), flag 0 beg: cyl 356/ sector 50/ head 0; end: cyl 256/ sector 50/ head 114 The data for partition 2 is: sysid 0,(unused) start 0, size 0 (0 Meg), flag 61 beg: cyl 364/ sector 37/ head 98; end: cyl 0/ sector 0/ head 0 The data for partition 3 is: Looking at the output from dmesg, we see: (aha0:1:0): "MICROP 2112-15MQ1094802 HQ48" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd1(aha0:1:0): Direct-Access 1001MB (2051615 512 byte sectors) sd1(aha0:1:0): with 1760 cyls, 15 heads, and an average 77 sectors/track In this case, then, you should use the parameters 1760 cylinders, 15 heads, and 77 sectors per track. What's less obvious here is the number of cylinders: fdisk doesn't have an opinion, and scsiformat and dmesg decided it has 2,051,615 sectors. Unfortunately, if you calculate the number according to the formula cylinders x heads x sectors, you'll come up with a different result: in this case 1760 x 15 x 77 = 2,032,800. How come? The disks report the total number of sectors, including spare tracks and such, but you can't use them all. The 2,032,800 is the correct number, and if you try to specify 2,051,615 to disklabel, it will spit out lots of messages about partitions which go beyond the end of the disk. Page 173, middle of page. Change the text after the "no magic" message to: The message no magic doesn't mean that fdisk is out of purple smoke. It refers to the fact that it didn't find the so-called magic number, which identifies the partition table. Since we don't have a partition table yet, this message isn't surprising. It's also completely harmless. Page 173, last example. Remove the first 22 lines, from ******* Working on device /dev/rsd1 ******* to, but not including the next occurrence of this line. Page 177, bulleted list: add the bullet * The total number of sectors in the partition. Calculate the number from the the formula cylinders x heads x sectors, even if you are using the whole disk: the output from dmesg or scsiformat is not correct here. Page 178, middle of page: after # disklabel -w -r /dev/sd1c cdc94161 insert When you do this, expect a kernel message (in high-intensity display) saying ``Cannot find disk label''. Since there isn't any label, it can't be found. This is another harmless chicken and egg problem. Page 182: In the section "Creating the file systems", add the first line to the example: # newfs /dev/rsd1h Further down the page, the last example should also read # newfs /dev/rsd1h 3. Other changes Page 41, after the heading "Installing from an MS-DOS partition". Add the text: It's also possible to install from a primary MS-DOS partition on the first disk. At the moment, it's not possible to install from extended partitions. Page 136, bottom: Add the text If you are changing the root password, be careful: it's easy enough to lock yourself out of the system if you mess things up, which could happen if, for example, you mistyped the password twice in the same way (don't laugh, it happens). If you're running X, open another window and use su to become root. If you're running in character mode, select another virtual terminal and log in as root there. Only when you're sure you can still access root should you log out. Page 152, just before the heading "The online manual". Add: Yes, you really need to run latex three times in order to build the cross-references. Page 199, the end of the multipage table is garbled. It should read: ze0 214 IBM/National Semiconductor PCMCIA ethernet controller zp0 214 3Com PCMCIA Etherlink III Page 205: Change the section titled "lpt0" to: lpt0 through lpt2 are the three printer ports you could conceivably have. Most people don't have three printers: you can comment out the definitions of the printers which you don't have. Page 208, bottom of page: swap the italicized headings "Adaptec 274X controller" and "Adaptec 1274X controller" Many thanks to Paul DuBois and Jerry Dunham for finding many of these bugs. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 17:18:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA24428 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 17:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Nandi.COM (Nandi.COM [206.205.75.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA24423 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 17:18:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Nandi.COM (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Nandi.COM (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA05177 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 20:17:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705050017.UAA05177@Nandi.COM> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Trying to use Trackball Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 20:17:53 -0400 From: Shiva Ramabadran Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have a 3 button Trackball Pro from Precision Instruments, that I would like to use with my Gateway 2000 system, instead of the Microsoft Mouse that came with it. The Trackball comes with a serial connector and a serial->ps2 adapter. However I could not get the trackball to work either as a PS/2 device or as a serial device. I am running 2.2.1-RELEASE. When plugged into the PS/2 mouse port, the kernel cannot find anything where the PS/2 mouse should be. Any help will be appreciated. Many thanks in advance, -Shiva -=- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 17:54:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA26189 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 17:54:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dot.ishiboo.com (user7625@dot.ishiboo.com [208.128.22.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA26184 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 17:54:35 -0700 (PDT) From: sirsyko@ishiboo.com Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 1012); 5 May 1997 00:55:12 -0000 Message-ID: <19970505005512.7620.qmail@dot.ishiboo.com> Subject: Promiscuous mode on Intel Etherexpress 16TP To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 18:55:12 -0600 (MDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I've been trying to get DHCPD and tcpdump to use my intel etherexpress, but both fail. DHCPD complains that bpf isnt configured (although it is), and tcpdump complains that ix0 is not configured. If I run tcpdump on my ppp0 device, it works fine, so I know bpf is working. In the etherexpress driver (if_ix.c), I noticed the following: cb_conf->byte[8] = 0; /* promiscuous mode off, broadcast enabled, nrz encodeing, cease transmission if ^CRS, insert crc, end of carrier mode bit stuffing, no padding */ So I'm curious how I can get bpf access to my ix0 device. Does anyone know what I need to do to enable promiscuous mode on my Intel Etherexpress? Thanks for your help. (ss) # uname -a FreeBSD orb.domain.com 2.2.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE #1: Sun May 4 20:05:15 EDT 1997 sirsyko@orb.domain.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/orb i386 From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 18:09:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA26744 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 18:09:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freeside.fc.net (freeside.fc.net [207.170.70.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA26735 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 18:09:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rider.fc.net (rider.fc.net [206.224.74.198]) by freeside.fc.net (8.8.5/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA23842; Sun, 4 May 1997 20:05:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from dunham@localhost) by rider.fc.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA00539; Sun, 4 May 1997 19:09:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Jerry Dunham Message-Id: <199705050009.TAA00539@rider.fc.net> Subject: Acrobat Reader reply file To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 19:09:18 -0500 (CDT) Cc: jdunham@awesome-f0.us.dell.com (Jerry Dunham) Organization: Not this week Reply-to: jdunham@fc.net (Jerry Dunham) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk If you are interested in running Acrobat Reader on FreeBSD, here's a reply file of most of the responses I received when I posed the question to the list. Headers and some blank lines have been edited to reduce size. It looks like I'm out of luck for the moment, as I'm running 2.1.5, and the consensus is that something more modern is needed. I may have to learn how to upgrade this thing when I return from vacation. (I just know I'll find a way to screw THAT up.) The other possibility seems to be pdftops or xpdf, which I've not yet explored. See discussion near the bottom of this file. --Jerry -----------------------------begin reply file---------------------------- From: Jerry Dunham Subject: Acrobat Reader for FreeBSD To: questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 07:31:15 -0500 (CDT) Organization: Not this week What version of Acrobat Reader works with FreeBSD and where might I go to acquire it? Adobe's site does not seem to contain anything close enough, although the acroread startup script claims one of the options is for Intel/BSDi. Thanks for any help! -- Jerry Dunham GS650G Atarian ordinaire jdunham@fc.net (512)335-0674 (H) jdunham@awesome-f0.us.dell.com (512)728-4026 (O) Confidence is the feeling you have before you understand the situation. From: "John S. Dyson" Subject: Re: Acrobat Reader for FreeBSD To: jdunham@fc.net Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 08:53:49 -0500 (EST) > What version of Acrobat Reader works with FreeBSD and where might I go to > acquire it? Adobe's site does not seem to contain anything close enough, > although the acroread startup script claims one of the options is for > Intel/BSDi. > The Linux version appears to work fine on recent versions of FreeBSD. John To: jdunham@fc.net (Jerry Dunham) Subject: Re: Acrobat Reader for FreeBSD From: Jay Sachs Date: 07 Apr 1997 09:58:12 -0400 Jerry Dunham writes: > What version of Acrobat Reader works with FreeBSD and where might I go to > acquire it? Adobe's site does not seem to contain anything close enough, > although the acroread startup script claims one of the options is for > Intel/BSDi. You need to be running 2.2, since it uses the Linux version. I haven't gotten around to upgrading to 2.2 yet, but I've found xpdf to be quite acceptable for viewing pdf files. -Jay Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 10:29:53 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: "John S. Dyson" Cc: jdunham@fc.net, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Acrobat Reader for FreeBSD John S. Dyson: |jdunham@fc.net: |> What version of Acrobat Reader works with FreeBSD and where might I go to |> acquire it? Adobe's site does not seem to contain anything close enough, |> although the acroread startup script claims one of the options is for |> Intel/BSDi. |> |The Linux version appears to work fine on recent versions of FreeBSD. That I've tried, the Linux version runs OK except that it doesn't generate valid postscript. This is unfortunate when dealing with encrypted PDFs as xpdf and ghostscript don't handle encrypted PDFs. Anyone got a little-known FreeBSD solution for printing encrypted PDFs? Randall Hopper rhh@ct.picker.com Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 13:07:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Jason Andresen To: Randall Hopper Subject: Re: Acrobat Reader for FreeBSD On Mon, 7 Apr 1997, Randall Hopper wrote: =)John S. Dyson: =)That I've tried, the Linux version runs OK except that it doesn't generate =)valid postscript. This is unfortunate when dealing with encrypted PDFs as =)xpdf and ghostscript don't handle encrypted PDFs. =) =)Anyone got a little-known FreeBSD solution for printing encrypted PDFs? =) I think one of the reasons to encypt the PDFs is to prevent people from printing them. This is one reason why Adobe is reluctant to give out the encryption scheme (IMHO). :::::::::::::::::::::::::::. . . . . ..:::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :: Jason Andresen :. . . . . . . . . : Web and FTP server at :: :: jandrese@vt.edu :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:: jandrese.async.vt.edu :: :.........................: Quote of the day :..........................: Flying saucers on occasion Show themselves to human eyes. Aliens fume, put off invasion While they brand these tales as lies. :::::::::::.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.........................:..:.:.:.:.:.:.::::::::::: Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 13:13:49 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Jason Andresen Subject: Re: Acrobat Reader for FreeBSD Jason Andresen: |=)John S. Dyson: |=)That I've tried, the Linux version runs OK except that it doesn't generate |=)valid postscript. This is unfortunate when dealing with encrypted PDFs as |=)xpdf and ghostscript don't handle encrypted PDFs. |=) |=)Anyone got a little-known FreeBSD solution for printing encrypted PDFs? |=) |I think one of the reasons to encypt the PDFs is to prevent people from |printing them. This is one reason why Adobe is reluctant to give out the |encryption scheme (IMHO). Well, you can print them just fine using the Adobe Acrobat Reader on Solaris, which is what I always end up doing -- waiting until the next work day and printing to PostScript for hardcopy or for keeping around on my FreeBSD (home) box for viewing. Randall Hopper Date: Mon, 7 Apr 1997 15:22:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Larry Marso To: "John S. Dyson" cc: jdunham@fc.net, questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Acrobat Reader for FreeBSD Correct. It does *not* work on 2.1.7 / earlier. Only 2.2 / after On Mon, 7 Apr 1997, John S. Dyson wrote: > > > > What version of Acrobat Reader works with FreeBSD and where might I go to > > acquire it? Adobe's site does not seem to contain anything close enough, > > although the acroread startup script claims one of the options is for > > Intel/BSDi. > > > The Linux version appears to work fine on recent versions of FreeBSD. > > John Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 16:43:39 -0500 From: Dan Riley Organization: Vail Systems, Inc. To: Randall Hopper CC: "John S. Dyson" , jdunham@fc.net, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Acrobat Reader for FreeBSD Randall Hopper wrote: > > John S. Dyson: > |jdunham@fc.net: > |> What version of Acrobat Reader works with FreeBSD and where might I go to > |> acquire it? Adobe's site does not seem to contain anything close enough, > |> although the acroread startup script claims one of the options is for > |> Intel/BSDi. > |> > |The Linux version appears to work fine on recent versions of FreeBSD. > > That I've tried, the Linux version runs OK except that it doesn't generate > valid postscript. This is unfortunate when dealing with encrypted PDFs as > xpdf and ghostscript don't handle encrypted PDFs. > > Anyone got a little-known FreeBSD solution for printing encrypted PDFs? What Linux version runs on 2.2.1? The version that I picked up at, ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/unix/3.x/acroread_linux_30.tar.gz installs but will not run. /usr/local/Acrobat3/bin > ./acroread The OS named FreeBSD version 2.2.1-RELEASE is currently not installed. Try running on a installed platform and connecting to your display. Installed platform(s) include the following: Intel/Linux Thanks for the help, Dan Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 22:53:42 +0000 From: Vladimir Kushnir To: Dan Riley Subject: Re: Acrobat Reader for FreeBSD Dan Riley wrote: > > What Linux version runs on 2.2.1? > > The version that I picked up at, > ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/unix/3.x/acroread_linux_30.tar.gz > installs but will not run. > > /usr/local/Acrobat3/bin > ./acroread > The OS named FreeBSD version 2.2.1-RELEASE is currently not installed. > Try running on a installed platform and connecting to your display. > Installed platform(s) include the following: > Intel/Linux > > Thanks for the help, > Dan You can simply change "Linux)" to "FreeBSD)" in "setup the configuration from uname" procedure. Everything else should be OK (provided you've installed Linux libraries, of course) Vladimir Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 20:34:35 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Dan Riley Cc: jdunham@fc.net, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Acrobat Reader for FreeBSD Dan Riley: |Randall Hopper wrote: |> |jdunham@fc.net: |> |> What version of Acrobat Reader works with FreeBSD and where might I |> |> go to acquire it? Adobe's site does not seem to contain anything |> |> close enough, although the acroread startup script claims one of |> |> the options is for Intel/BSDi. |> |> That I've tried, the Linux version runs OK except that it doesn't generate |> valid postscript. This is unfortunate when dealing with encrypted PDFs as |> xpdf and ghostscript don't handle encrypted PDFs. | |What Linux version runs on 2.2.1? | |The version that I picked up at, |ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/unix/3.x/acroread_linux_30.tar.gz |installs but will not run. | |/usr/local/Acrobat3/bin > ./acroread |The OS named FreeBSD version 2.2.1-RELEASE is currently not installed. |Try running on a installed platform and connecting to your display. |Installed platform(s) include the following: | Intel/Linux I have the 3.0 Linux AcroRead installed and had to make these few changes to acroread.sh. Works ok on 2.2-GAMMA, except for (as I mentioned) generating PostScript: --- ORIG/acroread.sh Tue Apr 8 20:32:22 1997 +++ acroread.sh Thu Jan 30 16:36:08 1997 @@ -5,7 +5,9 @@ ver=3.0 -install_dir=REPLACE_ME +# RHH - Changed this +#install_dir=REPLACE_ME +install_dir=/opt/pkg/AcroRead-3.0/Reader # # Prepend a colon separated environment variable @@ -143,6 +145,9 @@ else os_release=`uname -r` fi + +# RHH - Added this +os_name=Linux case "$os_name" in SunOS) Randall From: Gary Clark II Subject: Re: Acrobat Reader for FreeBSD To: lsmarso@panix.com (Larry Marso) Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 02:01:09 -0500 (CDT) Cc: toor@dyson.iquest.net, jdunham@fc.net, questions@freebsd.org Larry Marso wrote: > Correct. It does *not* work on 2.1.7 / earlier. Only 2.2 / after I belive this is because it is an ELF binary..???? > On Mon, 7 Apr 1997, John S. Dyson wrote: > > > What version of Acrobat Reader works with FreeBSD and where might I go to > > > acquire it? Adobe's site does not seem to contain anything close enough, > > > although the acroread startup script claims one of the options is for > > > Intel/BSDi. > > The Linux version appears to work fine on recent versions of FreeBSD. > > John Gary -- Gary Clark II (N5VMF) | I speak only for myself and "maybe" my company gclarkii@GBData.COM | Member of the FreeBSD Doc Team Providing Internet and ISP startups - http://WWW.GBData.com for information FreeBSD FAQ at ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.ORG/pub/FreeBSD/docs/FAQ.latin1 Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 17:25:51 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Gary Clark II Subject: Re: Acrobat Reader for FreeBSD -- SOLVED Gary Clark II: |Randall Hopper wrote: |> That I've tried, the Linux version runs OK except that it doesn't generate |> valid postscript. This is unfortunate when dealing with encrypted PDFs as |> xpdf and ghostscript don't handle encrypted PDFs. |> |> Anyone got a little-known FreeBSD solution for printing encrypted PDFs? | |Huh? |I'm running the linux acroread here and piping into ghostscript with no |problems. |What kind of errors do you get? I've attached one error trace from loading AcroRead PostScript files into GhostScript 4.0.3 below. After further investigation, I notice that the PostScript that my Solaris AcroRead and the Linux AcroRead kick out are the same except for a few comments. I incorrectly assumed the PostScript the Linux version was generating wasn't valid because GhostScript on my FreeBSD box couldn't read it but the GhostScript on my work box (and the LJ4 at work) could. Bit of a logic leap there. Given this realization, I compared versions. I'm running Aladdin GhostScript 2.6.1 (5/28/93) at work. Strange that it handles the PostScript that AcroRead kicks out but version 4.03 doesn't. Anyway, that seems to be the ticket. Randall Hopper Unrecoverable error: invalidexit in .stop Operand stack: true --nostringval-- false Unexpected interpreter error -8. Error object: (f80)op(132:.stop)0x346b8 Operand stack at 0xe9f3c: 0xf8094: 0x01 bool --F------ 0x0004 0x00000000 = false 0xf809c: 0x02 dict --Lwrx--- 0x000f 0x001866bc 0xf80a4: 0x01 bool --F------ 0x0000 0x00000001 = true Execution stack at 0xe903c: 0xf99fc: 0x0f oper --F---e-- 0x0000 0x0002ac80 = %interp_exit 0xf9a04: 0x12 str --F-rxe-- 0x0000 0x00000000 = 0xf9a0c: 0x03 file --L-rxe-- 0x0001 0x00102040 0xf9a14: 0x0e null --F---e-- 0x0000 0x000365b8 0xf9a1c: 0x03 file --S-rxe-- 0x0001 0x000f30c4 0xf9a24: 0x0f oper --F---e-- 0x0000 0x00036578 = %runexec_finish 0xf9a2c: 0x03 file --S-rxe-- 0x0001 0x000f30c4 0xf9a34: 0x05 mpry --L-rxe-- 0x0003 0x0010302e 0xf9a3c: 0x06 spry --L-rxe-- 0x0001 0x001865c2 0xf9a44: 0x05 mpry --G-rxe-- 0x000c 0x0014ddb0 0xf9a4c: 0x05 mpry --G-rxe-- 0x0039 0x00133b9e Dictionary stack at 0xe90f4: 0xfa22c: 0x02 dict --Gwrx--- 0x0000 0x000fb034 0xfa234: 0x02 dict --Gwrx--- 0x0000 0x0014c548 0xfa23c: 0x02 dict --Lwrx--- 0x0000 0x00100088 0xfa244: 0x02 dict --Lwrx--- 0x0003 0x00102824 0xfa24c: 0x02 dict --Lwrx--- 0x000f 0x001022f4 From: grog@lemis.de Subject: Re: Acrobat Reader for FreeBSD To: jdunham@fc.net Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 16:02:14 +0200 (CEST) Organisation: LEMIS, Schellnhausen 2, 36325 Feldatal, Germany Jerry Dunham writes: > > What version of Acrobat Reader works with FreeBSD and where might I go to > acquire it? Adobe's site does not seem to contain anything close enough, > although the acroread startup script claims one of the options is for > Intel/BSDi. I've never used an Acrobat reader. Instead, I use the program pdftops to convert it to PostScript, which it does reasonably well. Now if I could only remember where I got the program. Greg Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 11:54:33 +0200 (MET DST) From: Christoph Haas To: grog@lemis.de Cc: jdunham@fc.net, FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Acrobat Reader for FreeBSD On Wed, 16 Apr 1997 grog@lemis.de wrote: > I've never used an Acrobat reader. Instead, I use the program pdftops > to convert it to PostScript, which it does reasonably well. Now if I > could only remember where I got the program. You can use Ghostscript 4.03 (the Alladdin version), too. It now handles PDF as well as PS. Christoph From: garyj@frt.dec.com In-Reply-To: Message from grog@lemis.de of Wed, 16 Apr 97 16:02:14 +0200. Reply-To: gjennejohn@frt.dec.com Subject: Re: Acrobat Reader for FreeBSD Date: Thu, 17 Apr 97 12:01:42 +0200 grog@lemis.de writes: > Jerry Dunham writes: > > > > What version of Acrobat Reader works with FreeBSD and where might I go to > > acquire it? Adobe's site does not seem to contain anything close enough, > > although the acroread startup script claims one of the options is for > > Intel/BSDi. > > I've never used an Acrobat reader. Instead, I use the program pdftops > to convert it to PostScript, which it does reasonably well. Now if I > could only remember where I got the program. a search on ftpsearch.ntnu.no finds quite a few hits. according to a pdftops.txt on one of the hits, it's a port of part of xpdf. Apparently the pdf-to-ps functionality was split out. Can pdftops handle encrypted pdf files ? That's the functionality I miss the most in xpdf. --- Gary Jennejohn (work) gjennejohn@frt.dec.com (home) Gary.Jennejohn@munich.netsurf.de (play) gj@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 15:10:36 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: gjennejohn@frt.dec.com Subject: Re: Acrobat Reader for FreeBSD garyj@frt.dec.com: |grog@lemis.de writes: |> Jerry Dunham writes: |> > What version of Acrobat Reader works with FreeBSD and where might I go to |> |> I've never used an Acrobat reader. Instead, I use the program pdftops |> to convert it to PostScript, which it does reasonably well. Now if I |> could only remember where I got the program. | |Can pdftops handle encrypted pdf files ? That's the functionality I |miss the most in xpdf. pdftops is part of xpdf ("grep pdftops /var/db/pkg/*/*"). In my experience, neither it nor GhostScript handle encrypted PDFs. For that you have to resort to the Acrobat Reader -- Adobe's plan, of course. As a side note, if you use GhostScript to convert AcroRead-generated postscript to your printer's native format for printing, on FreeBSD I've only had success with a "recent" version of the Aladdin GhostScript 4.03 package on ftp.freebsd.org. I say recent, because a previous Aladdin 4.03 package I downloaded from there a few months ago didn't handle the PostScript AcroRead generates. Ditto for the other two GhostScript packages on the FTP site as of a week ago. Randall Hopper From: service@Adobe.COM (Adobe Support) Date: 24 Apr 97 14:40:04 To: jdunham@fc.net Subject: Question - Adobe Products - Acrobat Reader Hello Jerry, Thank you for contacting Adobe Customer Support via the Adobe Web site. We apologize for the delay in responding to your message. Although there is no information currently available as to when or whether Acrobat will support BSD in the future, we are constantly monitoring the trend in the marketplace to better serve the changing needs of our customers. You are important to us and we will take your request into consideration when planning future releases. I hope this answers your question. For further questions, don't forget to check the Customer Services and the Technical Support pages for the most up-to-date Customer Support information. *Customer Services-- http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/csoverview.html *Technical Support-- http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/overview.html For information about our current support policies, see http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/cfdetails.html. Best regards, Ellen Adobe Customer Support THREAD:JDUNHAMX9704072829971 The thread number (above) is your reference number for this issue. Thank you for visiting www.adobe.com. We hope this reply answers your question. Inquiries such as yours often prompt us to update or add information to www.adobe.com so it can be available to other customers. Please return to www.adobe.com for additional information and inquiries. Copyright 1997 Adobe Systems Incorporated --- On 04/07/97 05:50:29 A, you wrote --- I'm having difficulty finding the version of Acrobat Reader that I need. I saw nothing on your web site that looked like BSD, so I downloaded the SunOS version to poke around. The acroread script mentions a version for Intel/BSDi, which I can run. How to I go about finding a copy of this? Thanks for your assistance. --- original message ends --- From: Zahemszky Gabor Subject: Re: Acrobat Reader for FreeBSD Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 14:14:41 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: gjennejohn@frt.dec.com > > grog@lemis.de writes: > > Jerry Dunham writes: > > > > > > What version of Acrobat Reader works with FreeBSD and where might I go to > > > acquire it? Adobe's site does not seem to contain anything close enough, > > > although the acroread startup script claims one of the options is for > > > Intel/BSDi. > > > > I've never used an Acrobat reader. Instead, I use the program pdftops > > to convert it to PostScript, which it does reasonably well. Now if I > > could only remember where I got the program. > > > > a search on ftpsearch.ntnu.no finds quite a few hits. > > according to a pdftops.txt on one of the hits, it's a port of > part of xpdf. Apparently the pdf-to-ps functionality was split out. > > Can pdftops handle encrypted pdf files ? That's the functionality I > miss the most in xpdf. If I remember well, I've read something in xpdf-0.6(?) about encryption. Something about a US site, from you can load the routine, which isn't built in the package. Maybe, I'm wrong, but you have to read it, too. Gabor From: Sascha Blank Subject: Re: Adobe Acrobat for FreeBSD? To: Harlan.Stenn@pfcs.com (Harlan Stenn) Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 11:01:14 +0200 (CEST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: blank@fox.uni-trier.de (Sascha Blank) Hello Harlan, Harlan Stenn has written recently: > Does anybody know if/how I can I get Adobe Acrobat working for FreeBSD? Yes, it is possible to use the Adobe Acrobat Reader for Linux (I guess this is the program you meant) in conjunction with the Linux emulator that FreeBSD 2.2 comes with. I use the reader now for some weeks without any problem. FreeBSD 2.1 offers such an emulation as well, but I don't know how if it works well enough to run the Reader, so should try it with a 2.2 system if you can. There is a section in the handbook on how to install the linux emulation and the Acrobat Reader is part of the ports collection (look under /usr/ports/print/acroread), so the installation shouldn't be a great deal. If you still have problems installing everything correctly, I can give more detailed information that hopefully will help you. -- Sascha Blank - mailto:blank@fox.uni-trier.de Student and System Administrator at the University of Trier, Germany Finger my account to receive my Public PGP key I don't speak for my employers, they don't pay me enough for that. -----------------------------end reply file----------------------------- -- Jerry Dunham GS650G Atarian ordinaire jdunham@fc.net (512)335-0674 (H) jdunham@awesome-f0.us.dell.com (512)728-4026 (O) Compiler error: Windoze=efficiency (Incompatible assignment of 'efficiency' to type Microsoft.Product) From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 18:30:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA27390 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 18:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [194.198.43.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA27358 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 18:29:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) id DAA20835; Mon, 5 May 1997 03:29:38 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 03:29:38 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199705050129.DAA20835@bitbox.follo.net> From: Eivind Eklund To: eschell@vdn.com CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Eric Schell's message of Sun, 04 May 1997 15:05:33 -0700 Subject: Re: Should I? References: <336D082D.1271@vdn.com> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Greetings! > I am considering a tryout of the FreeBSD system, and would like to know > more about it. I recently upgraded to a 133Mhz 486 machine with 16 Meg > of RAM. I would like to have a 32-bit OS running on it, but I am not all > that enchanted with Windoze95. I hope to see faster performance with a > 32-bit OS, esp during on-line sessions; I use Netscape 3 w/Java. > So how do I obtain the UNIX (LINUX?) version of Netscape? When you have installed FreeBSD and the ports collections, you will get Netscape 3 by doing # cd /usr/ports/www/netscape3 # make install And that's it. Netscape 2 and the latest beta of Netscape 4 are available under the obvious names. If what you're asking is how to install FreeBSD, go to www.freebsd.org and look. There is a lot of information in the handbook, for starters. Eivind. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 18:37:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA27638 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 18:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [194.198.43.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA27633 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 18:37:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) id DAA20847; Mon, 5 May 1997 03:36:52 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 03:36:52 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199705050136.DAA20847@bitbox.follo.net> From: Eivind Eklund To: Brett Glass CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Brett Glass's message of Sun, 04 May 1997 17:21:00 -0600 Subject: Re: How good are intermediate versions References: <3.0.1.32.19970504172100.006ee1d0@lariat.org> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I'm working with a lightly-loaded machine that's used primarily for > networking tasks. It does a little Web service and some PPP via "dumb" > UARTs. It has an EISA motherboard and an Adaptec EISA SCSI Twin host > adapter. (I'm not sure which chips it uses, but they might be the ones with > which Justin was having some headaches.) > > The machine is still running 2.1.5, with patches to close security holes. I > am considering upgrading it to either: > > a) 2.2.1-R; > b) The 4/22/97 snapshot of the 2.2 "RELENG" branch > (Why isn't it called something like 2.2.5-SNAP?); or > c) The 5/2/97 snapshot of 3.0-current. > > Which would work best, given the model of SCSI adapter and the stability of > the various releases? Probably the 2.2-970422-RELENG snapshot. I'm fairly certain that 2.2.1 have problems with your Adaptec card, and the 3.0-970502-SNAP lack at least the divert functionality, as well as being on a bleeding edge branch. BTW: Please help stamp out illogical date-formats - you were lucky that you included the 2.2 releng date above, or I wouldn't have known what dates you were referring to. Eivind. From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 18:55:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA28261 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 18:55:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gateway.ormond.unimelb.edu.au (gateway.ormond.unimelb.edu.au [203.17.189.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA28235; Sun, 4 May 1997 18:55:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gavin@localhost) by gateway.ormond.unimelb.edu.au (8.8.3/8.6.9) id LAA15414; Mon, 5 May 1997 11:55:06 +1000 (EST) From: Gavin Cameron Message-Id: <199705050155.LAA15414@gateway.ormond.unimelb.edu.au> Subject: Anyone using a CONNER CTT8000-S tape drive To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 11:55:06 +1000 (EST) Cc: hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, I recently got a Pentium Pro machine with a CONNER CTT8000-S tape drive connected to a Adaptec 2940 Ultra SCSI host adapter. I'm running 2.2.1-RELEASE. dmesg gives me ahc0 rev 0 int a irq 9 on pci0:11 ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16 SCBs ahc0 waiting for scsi devices to settle (ahc0:0:0): "SEAGATE ST34371W 0360" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 4148MB (8496960 512 byte sectors) (ahc0:4:0): "CONNER CTT8000-S 1.17" type 1 removable SCSI 2 st0(ahc0:4:0): Sequential-Access density code 0x44, drive empty When I try to do a tar to the drive I get the following errors in /var/log/messages st0(ahc0:4:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 Invalid field in CDB st0(ahc0:4:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 Invalid field in CDB st0(ahc0:4:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 Invalid field in CDB st0(ahc0:4:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 Invalid field in CDB st0: bad request, must be between 0 and 0 st0(ahc0:4:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 Invalid field in CDB Anyone have any idea if I can get this drive working on FreeBSD 2.2.1? The Seagate WWW page for the drive is http://www.conner.com/tape/tprodmatrix.shtml Thanks Gavin -- []------------------------------------+-------------------------------------[] | Gavin Cameron | Ormond College | | Ph : +61 3 9344 1201 | The University of Melbourne | | Fax : +61 3 9344 1111 | Parkville, Victoria | | Email : gavin@ormond.unimelb.edu.au | Australia, 3052 | []------------------------------------+-------------------------------------[] From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 20:07:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA00589 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 20:07:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA00581 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 20:07:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-130 [207.14.72.130]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA10430; Sun, 4 May 1997 17:37:05 -0800 Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 18:30:28 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: Michael Alwan cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: where is everybody?? In-Reply-To: <336D0E2D.823C29D2@rma.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 4 May 1997, Michael Alwan wrote: > To all: > > Normally my mail from the various FreeBSD mailing list runs about 70-100 > messages a day. Suddenly I'm getting nothing. I'm guessing this is > because school is out for the summer. Am I right, or do I need to > re-subscribe to the lists (maybe my ISP screwed something up when they > installed their new nameserver. > > Thanks, > > Michael what a relief - i thought it was only me! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 20:07:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA00603 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 20:07:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA00585 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 20:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-130 [207.14.72.130]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA10427; Sun, 4 May 1997 17:36:23 -0800 Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 18:29:46 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: Eric Schell cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Should I? In-Reply-To: <336D082D.1271@vdn.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 4 May 1997, Eric Schell wrote: > Greetings! > I am considering a tryout of the FreeBSD system, and would like to know > more about it. I recently upgraded to a 133Mhz 486 machine with 16 Meg > of RAM. I would like to have a 32-bit OS running on it, but I am not all > that enchanted with Windoze95. I hope to see faster performance with a > 32-bit OS, esp during on-line sessions; I use Netscape 3 w/Java. > So how do I obtain the UNIX (LINUX?) version of Netscape? you go to netscape.com ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 20:46:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA01741 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 20:46:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psln1.psln.com (psln.com [206.99.118.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA01717 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 20:46:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from g6-200 by psln1.psln.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/951211.SGI.AUTO) for id UAA23464; Sun, 4 May 1997 20:43:16 -0700 Message-Id: <199705050343.UAA23464@psln1.psln.com> From: "Daniel Keller" To: "FreeBSD Questions List" Subject: where is FAQ.ascii? Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 21:13:19 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, do FAQ.ascii and Handbook.ascii still exist? in the docs directory at ftp.FreeBSD.com there is only FAQ.html.gz, FAQ.latin1, and FAQ.ps. I tried to view FAQ.latin1 in wordpad in Win95 and with vi in FreeBSD, neither one displayed it correctly. What should I use to view these latin1 files? Have they stopped making the .ascii files? Thanks, Daniel Keller From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 22:16:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA04166 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 22:16:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psln1.psln.com (psln.com [206.99.118.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA04160 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 22:16:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from g6-200 by psln1.psln.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/951211.SGI.AUTO) for id WAA25632; Sun, 4 May 1997 22:13:55 -0700 Message-Id: <199705050513.WAA25632@psln1.psln.com> From: "Daniel Keller" To: "FreeBSD Questions List" Subject: setting up a network Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 22:43:19 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, where are some good resources for getting started with networking? I currently have 2 computers with SMC EtherEZ cards, one of the computers is running FreeBSD 2.2.1, the other is running FreeBSD 2.1.5. I want to install 2.2.1 on the system with 2.1.5. I am planning on completely reconfiguring the system so I don't need to worry about upgrading. Currently I am setting up user ppp, other than that I haven't done anything with networking. If anybody knows a good place to start I would appreciate it. Thanks! Daniel Keller From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 22:16:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA04184 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 22:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psln1.psln.com (psln.com [206.99.118.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA04162 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 22:16:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from g6-200 by psln1.psln.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/951211.SGI.AUTO) for id WAA25630; Sun, 4 May 1997 22:13:53 -0700 Message-Id: <199705050513.WAA25630@psln1.psln.com> From: "Daniel Keller" To: "FreeBSD Questions List" Subject: Problems connecting to the internet Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 22:30:19 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, First: I solved my problem with my modem not responding in cu and term, the modem was on COM2 I had sio0 set to the COM2 address. I recompiled the kernel with sio0 at the COM1 address and sio1 at the COM2 address and set ppp.conf to /dev/cuaa1. This fixed the problem. I still don't know why when it was set up the other way the modem accepted my commands but I couldn't see the responses. Now my new problem: I have all my files set up as is described in the handbook. I can tell ppp to dial, it dials and connects and logs in fine. Then I switch to another terminal and try ping. If I try "ping localhost" I get: Ping: send to: Permission denied Ping: wrote localhost 64 chars, ret=-1 I have also tried "ping 206.155.61.100" (the address of my ISP) and as root, always with the same result. If I try "ping psln.com" (my ISP) I get a host not found error. Does anybody have any idea what the problem might be? Thanks, Daniel Keller From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 22:19:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA04322 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 22:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA04316 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 22:19:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-129 [207.14.72.129]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA11161 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 20:16:11 -0800 Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 21:06:38 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: freebsd-questions Subject: lp headers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hmmm. under 2.1.5, my headers used to print out fine on my print jobs. now, with 2.2.1, even though my documents print fine, my headers just print out scrambled: t t rrrr ooo o o ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 22:21:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA04483 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 22:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan@dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA04478 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 22:21:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) id AAA16177; Mon, 5 May 1997 00:21:30 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19970505002129.62030@dan.emsphone.com> Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 00:21:29 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Brandon Gillespie Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 'ntpdate' time server References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.67e In-Reply-To: ; from "Steve Howe" on Sun, May 04, 1997 at 02:11:58AM -0800 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 4 May 1997, Brandon Gillespie wrote: > I don't want the standard xntpd server, I want a server that you can > point 'ntpdate' too along the lines of 'ntpdate foof.com' and it > updates your clock. The reason I want this server is I have a > firewalled network, and I want servers on the firewall'ed side to > somehow get their time sanity from a machine which can sync with > others in the world. I figured I could have a server outside the > firewall keep in sync with other boxes on the net, and in turn it > could be a server for the firewalled side of the network. The > connectivity isn't a concern--I can handle that. My only problem is > I have no idea how to setup a server that 'ntpdate' will recognize as > such. I don't want to setup a continuous xntpd syncing mechanism, I > just want to have the firewalled boxes run ntpdate once a night. > Help? I've dickered with xntpd trying to get it to do what I want to > no avail... You _want_ an xntpd server :) Ntpdate is a 'single-fire' xntpd, which means it polls an xntpd server for the time. You'll have to set up an xntpd on your firewall machine (or another box that can see both sides of the wall) and have your inside clients poll it. Do you have a reason for not wanting to put xntpd on your machines? -Dan Nelson dnelson@emsphone.com From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 22:25:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA04604 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 22:25:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA04598 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 22:25:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-129 [207.14.72.129]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA11176 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 20:22:42 -0800 Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 21:14:39 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: freebsd-questions Subject: X ld.so's Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk when i start X, i get PEX extension module not loaded XIE extension module not loaded i have PEX so's in /usr/X11R6/lib, and in my XF86Config font paths, and in my fonts directories, and i ran ldconfig on the appropriate dirs. why isn't PEX loading? and what is XIE? i grep-ed all my man pages and Xdocs, and can't find anything on it ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 22:30:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA04827 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 22:30:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gravy.kishka.net (root@chestnut2-34.slip.netaxs.com [207.8.210.164]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA04822 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 22:30:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by gravy.kishka.net (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id BAA00175 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 01:30:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 01:30:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Bryan Liesner X-Sender: root@localhost To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: CDROM installation problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I recently got tired of installing my system via ftp, so I broke down and subscribed to the CDROM distribution. When it arrived, I tore open the box and installed 2.2.1 over 2.2. The installation went flawlessly, as usual (for me anyway). After rebuilding the kernel, I decided to check out some of the packages. Initially, sysinstall refused to mount the cdrom drive, but after a few tries it did mount. I was able to install some of the packages, but only one at a time. After installing one package and going for another I got this error: matcd0: Illegal data mode for this track while reading block xxxxxxx OK, so I used pkg_add and tried to install manually. Same problem. Also, if I tried to install a package with dependencies on other packages, the first package would install, and then it would bomb out with the above error, when pkg_add went for the next file. I'm using a Matshushita CR563 CDROM drive attached to a SB16 card. I never had problems reading other cdroms. This problem is also occurring with the live file system CD that was sent along with the install CD. Anyone have a similar problem? Is my drive hosed? Is there a problem with the matcd driver? ____ | _ \ | |_) |_ __ _ _ __ _ _ __ | _ <| '__| | | |/ _` | '_ \ ====================== | |_) | | | |_| | (_| | | | | = Powered by FreeBSD = |____/|_| \__, |\__,_|_| |_| ====================== __/ | |___/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 22:33:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA05001 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 22:33:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from theta.pair.com (theta.pair.com [207.86.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA04994 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 22:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adam.netsonic.com (gb_noc26.sparknet.net [207.250.20.26]) by theta.pair.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA08539 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 01:29:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Envelope-To: Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970505003939.00700a38@mail.netsonic.com> X-Sender: adam@mail.netsonic.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 00:39:41 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Adam L. Simpson" Subject: modem dial out PPP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi: I am trying to dial out via modem so that others can access my FBSD box thru telnet. When I get connected to my ISP, I get a Dynamic IP assigned. When I try to telnet to this number, it times out. What else would I have to do on my end to allow the traffic to come thru to the box if one were to telnet to the Dynamic IP Assigned by the ISP? Thanks in advance Adam L. Simpson From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 22:47:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA05435 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 22:47:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sand.sentex.ca (sand.sentex.ca [206.222.77.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA05430 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 22:47:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gravel (gravel.sentex.ca [205.211.165.210]) by sand.sentex.ca (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id BAA00296; Mon, 5 May 1997 01:51:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970505015148.00a77730@sentex.net> X-Sender: mdtancsa@sentex.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 01:51:48 -0400 To: "Daniel Keller" , "FreeBSD Questions List" From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Problems connecting to the internet In-Reply-To: <199705050513.WAA25630@psln1.psln.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >Ping: send to: Permission denied >Ping: wrote localhost 64 chars, ret=-1 Sounds like you have the firewall option compiled into your kernel, but you dont have firewall="YES" in sysconfig.... i.e. you need the /sbin/ipfw -f flush ---Mike ********************************************************************** Mike Tancsa (mike@sentex.net) * To do is to be -- Nietzsche Sentex Communications Corp, * To be is to do -- Sartre Cambridge, Ontario * Do be do be do -- Sinatra (http://www.sentex.net/~mdtancsa) * From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 23:15:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA06461 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 23:15:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gravy.kishka.net (root@chestnut2-34.slip.netaxs.com [207.8.210.164]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA06440 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 23:14:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by gravy.kishka.net (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id CAA00285; Mon, 5 May 1997 02:14:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 02:14:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Bryan Liesner X-Sender: root@localhost To: Daniel Keller cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems connecting to the internet In-Reply-To: <199705050513.WAA25630@psln1.psln.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 4 May 1997, Daniel Keller wrote: > Now my new problem: I have all my files set up as is described in the > handbook. I can tell ppp to dial, it dials and connects and logs in fine. > Then I switch to another terminal and try ping. If I try "ping localhost" I > get: > > Ping: send to: Permission denied > Ping: wrote localhost 64 chars, ret=-1 > When you say all files, did you set up resolv.conf, host.conf, and hosts? If not, check these files out - resolv.conf should have at least one line with: nameserver XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX <- your isp's nameserver address hosts should have (minimally): 127.0.0.1 localhost <- there should be a sample in your /etc host.conf (which I believe is already set up in /etc): hosts bind ____ | _ \ | |_) |_ __ _ _ __ _ _ __ | _ <| '__| | | |/ _` | '_ \ ====================== | |_) | | | |_| | (_| | | | | = Powered by FreeBSD = |____/|_| \__, |\__,_|_| |_| ====================== __/ | |___/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 23:19:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA06572 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 23:19:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.duras.com (jack@mail.duras.com [207.107.140.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA06565 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 23:19:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail ([207.107.140.235]) by mail.duras.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA292 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 02:23:31 -0400 Message-ID: <336D7CE2.70F8@moonlighting.net> Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 02:23:30 -0400 From: Daniel Zborovski Organization: Moonlighting Web Management X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b2 (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: running a program on startup X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there a way to run a program on startup. As it is now everytime I want to start my apache server I need to type: /usr/local/apache_1.1.1/src/httpd -f /usr/local/apache_1.1.1/conf/http.conf There has to be an easier way!!! Thanks Alot -- ------------------------------------------------------------ |Daniel Zborovski | daniel@moonlighting.net | |Network Administartor | | |Moonlighting Web Management | http://www.moonlighting.net | ------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 23:33:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA07082 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 23:33:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.116.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA07077 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 23:33:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA25918; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:34:30 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) id IAA11960; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:51:18 +0200 (MET DST) From: Christoph Kukulies Message-Id: <199705050651.IAA11960@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: X ld.so's In-Reply-To: from Steve Howe at "May 4, 97 09:14:39 pm" To: un_x@anchorage.net (Steve Howe) Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 08:51:18 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > when i start X, i get What X are you running ? XFree86 3.? X(formerly inside)? > > PEX extension module not loaded > XIE extension module not loaded > > i have PEX so's in /usr/X11R6/lib, and in my XF86Config font paths, > and in my fonts directories, and i ran ldconfig on the appropriate dirs. > why isn't PEX loading? > > and what is XIE? i grep-ed all my man pages and Xdocs, X Input Extensions - extends X to accept a variety of other input devices like dials,tablets etc. > and can't find anything on it ... > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 23:55:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA07849 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 23:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA07844 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 23:55:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-132 [207.14.72.132]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA11639; Sun, 4 May 1997 21:52:25 -0800 Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 22:45:45 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: Steve Howe cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: X ld.so's In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 4 May 1997, Steve Howe wrote: > PEX extension module not loaded > XIE extension module not loaded actually, i got rid of these errors (add Module section to XF86Config, see man page ...) but i have still been unable to use the font(s). does PEX require a special application to make use of it? "mkfontdir" doesn't work with PEX extensions ... > and what is XIE? i grep-ed all my man pages and Xdocs, > and can't find anything on it ... and i can't find XIE fonts - although i have it's lib. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 23:55:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA07883 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 23:55:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (gatekeeper.barcode.co.il [192.116.93.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA07878 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 23:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (8.8.5/8.6.12) id JAA28406; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:53:50 +0300 (IDT) X-Authentication-Warning: gatekeeper.barcode.co.il: smap set sender to using -f Received: from localhost.barcode.co.il(127.0.0.1) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il via smap (V1.3) id sma028404; Mon May 5 09:53:39 1997 Message-ID: <336D8438.BE5@barcode.co.il> Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 09:54:48 +0300 From: Nadav Eiron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Zborovski CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: running a program on startup References: <336D7CE2.70F8@moonlighting.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Daniel Zborovski wrote: > > Is there a way to run a program on startup. As it is now everytime I > want to start my apache server I need to type: > > /usr/local/apache_1.1.1/src/httpd -f > /usr/local/apache_1.1.1/conf/http.conf > > There has to be an easier way!!! > > Thanks Alot > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > |Daniel Zborovski | daniel@moonlighting.net | > |Network Administartor | | > |Moonlighting Web Management | http://www.moonlighting.net | > ------------------------------------------------------------ Put it in /etc/rc.local. In later versions of FreeBSD (2.2 and above I believe) there's an alternative (using /usr/local/etc/rc.*), but for simple things such as this rc.local is the best. Nadav From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 23:57:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA08022 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 23:57:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (gatekeeper.barcode.co.il [192.116.93.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA08017 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 23:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (8.8.5/8.6.12) id JAA28425; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:55:20 +0300 (IDT) X-Authentication-Warning: gatekeeper.barcode.co.il: smap set sender to using -f Received: from localhost.barcode.co.il(127.0.0.1) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il via smap (V1.3) id sma028421; Mon May 5 09:55:04 1997 Message-ID: <336D848C.580@barcode.co.il> Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 09:56:12 +0300 From: Nadav Eiron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Howe CC: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: X ld.so's References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Steve Howe wrote: > > when i start X, i get > > PEX extension module not loaded > XIE extension module not loaded > > i have PEX so's in /usr/X11R6/lib, and in my XF86Config font paths, > and in my fonts directories, and i ran ldconfig on the appropriate dirs. > why isn't PEX loading? Don't know. > > and what is XIE? i grep-ed all my man pages and Xdocs, > and can't find anything on it ... XIE is X Imaging Extensions. It is extensions to X intended for the display and handling of large images (I used it once when writing something that had to display CCITT fax files). > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nadav From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 23:57:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA08062 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 23:57:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA08057 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 23:57:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-132 [207.14.72.132]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA11648; Sun, 4 May 1997 21:54:53 -0800 Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 22:48:13 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: Bryan Liesner cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CDROM installation problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 5 May 1997, Bryan Liesner wrote: just copy them off the CDROM into /usr/packages/All /INDEX /*.tgz's then use /stand/sysinstall. works for me. (if all else fails). > I recently got tired of installing my system via ftp, so I broke down > and subscribed to the CDROM distribution. When it arrived, I tore open > the box and installed 2.2.1 over 2.2. The installation went flawlessly, > as usual (for me anyway). After rebuilding the kernel, I decided to > check out some of the packages. Initially, sysinstall refused to mount > the cdrom drive, but after a few tries it did mount. I was able to > install some of the packages, but only one at a time. After installing > one package and going for another I got this error: > > matcd0: Illegal data mode for this track while reading block xxxxxxx > > OK, so I used pkg_add and tried to install manually. Same problem. > Also, if I tried to install a package with dependencies on other packages, > the first package would install, and then it would bomb out with the above > error, when pkg_add went for the next file. > > I'm using a Matshushita CR563 CDROM drive attached to a SB16 card. > I never had problems reading other cdroms. This problem is also > occurring with the live file system CD that was sent along with the > install CD. > > Anyone have a similar problem? Is my drive hosed? Is there a problem > with the matcd driver? > > > > ____ > | _ \ > | |_) |_ __ _ _ __ _ _ __ > | _ <| '__| | | |/ _` | '_ \ ====================== > | |_) | | | |_| | (_| | | | | = Powered by FreeBSD = > |____/|_| \__, |\__,_|_| |_| ====================== > __/ | > |___/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sun May 4 23:59:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA08124 for questions-outgoing; Sun, 4 May 1997 23:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (gatekeeper.barcode.co.il [192.116.93.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA08118 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 23:59:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (8.8.5/8.6.12) id JAA28434; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:57:20 +0300 (IDT) X-Authentication-Warning: gatekeeper.barcode.co.il: smap set sender to using -f Received: from localhost.barcode.co.il(127.0.0.1) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il via smap (V1.3) id sma028430; Mon May 5 09:56:51 1997 Message-ID: <336D84F7.2268@barcode.co.il> Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 09:57:59 +0300 From: Nadav Eiron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Spock CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Probing Hardware References: <199705041919.OAA00182@aheffner.netnet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Spock wrote: > > I would like to install my cd-rom drive and my sound card, > but i don't know the irq, drq, i/o addresses of them. I > have win95 running on my first drive, but i went to the > device manager in win95 and wrote down the irq,drq, i/o > addresses that it said the hardware was at, but when > i boot with "-c" and go into visual, and use those > numbers, freebsd still can't find the devices. I've > tried using all possible different combinations, but > it still won't find the hardware. Is there any way > to easily find out the addresses of the hardware, or > have it probe all addresses or something, until it finds > the devices? > > Thanx, > > Michael Heffner > aheffner@lakefield.net If your CDROM has an IDE interface, don't connect it to the SoundBlaster but rather to one of the main EIDE controllers, either as the slave on the primary controller, or as the master on the secondary controller. If that is the case, also make sure you have the lines option ATAPI device wcd0 in your kernel config file, and that the device wcd0c exists in /dev. Nadav From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 00:03:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA08350 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 00:03:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA08344 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 00:03:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-132 [207.14.72.132]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA11665; Sun, 4 May 1997 22:00:09 -0800 Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 22:53:28 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: Daniel Keller cc: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Re: Problems connecting to the internet In-Reply-To: <199705050513.WAA25630@psln1.psln.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 4 May 1997, Daniel Keller wrote: > Now my new problem: I have all my files set up as is described in the > handbook. I can tell ppp to dial, it dials and connects and logs in fine. > Then I switch to another terminal and try ping. If I try "ping localhost" I > get: > > Ping: send to: Permission denied > Ping: wrote localhost 64 chars, ret=-1 is ppp in all caps (PPP)? did you set up /etc/resolv.conf? are you attaching /0 to your ppp.conf addresses? did you set up ppp.linkup? are your /etc/host*, files set up? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 00:04:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA08453 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 00:04:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (gatekeeper.barcode.co.il [192.116.93.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA08448 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 00:04:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (8.8.5/8.6.12) id KAA28451; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:01:50 +0300 (IDT) X-Authentication-Warning: gatekeeper.barcode.co.il: smap set sender to using -f Received: from localhost.barcode.co.il(127.0.0.1) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il via smap (V1.3) id sma028449; Mon May 5 10:01:28 1997 Message-ID: <336D860C.34A0@barcode.co.il> Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 10:02:36 +0300 From: Nadav Eiron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Stafford CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: g++ References: <199705041811.NAA19238@mail.mankato.msus.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Scott Stafford wrote: > > Hi, > > The computer system at my college runs version 4.4 of the ULTRIX operating > system. Is freeBSD comparable to this system? Both Ultrix and FreeBSD are from the BSD branch of UNIX. ULTRIX is *old* (mostly follows 4.2 and a little of 4.3 BSD if I have my UNIX taxonomy correct here), while FreeBSD is based on the last 4.4BSD-Lite (3.0, on Lite2) releases. Basically, if you know Ultrix well you shouldn't have much trouble with FreeBSD. > > I am interested in using this OS to save me the trouble of logging in and > tying up a phone line whenever I need to compile a program. > > My second Question would be, does it have g++? Yes. > This is what I use to compile with. > > Thank you for your time. > Scott Stafford You're most welcome, Nadav From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 00:10:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA08783 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 00:10:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA08767 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 00:10:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-132 [207.14.72.132]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA11695; Sun, 4 May 1997 22:07:09 -0800 Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 23:00:29 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: "Adam L. Simpson" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: modem dial out PPP In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970505003939.00700a38@mail.netsonic.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 5 May 1997, Adam L. Simpson wrote: > I am trying to dial out via modem so that others can access my FBSD box > thru telnet. When I get connected to my ISP, I get a Dynamic IP assigned. > When I try to telnet to this number, it times out. What else would I have > to do on my end to allow the traffic to come thru to the box if one were to > telnet to the Dynamic IP Assigned by the ISP? works for me! :) what i'd like to know is: why is it, if you have host.conf set up to use bind first, "telnet alphabetic.name.net" uses /etc/hosts info, instead of using bind to get your dynamically allocated address? (when trying to telnet to yourself). ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 00:13:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA09087 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 00:13:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA09080 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 00:13:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-132 [207.14.72.132]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA11713; Sun, 4 May 1997 22:10:39 -0800 Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 23:03:58 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: Daniel Zborovski cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: running a program on startup In-Reply-To: <336D7CE2.70F8@moonlighting.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 5 May 1997, Daniel Zborovski wrote: > Is there a way to run a program on startup. As it is now everytime I > want to start my apache server I need to type: > > /usr/local/apache_1.1.1/src/httpd -f > /usr/local/apache_1.1.1/conf/http.conf > > There has to be an easier way!!! write a sh script ... or stick some stuff in your profile. or create an alias. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 00:23:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA09577 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 00:23:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA09565 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 00:23:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-132 [207.14.72.132]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA11738; Sun, 4 May 1997 22:20:36 -0800 Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 23:13:56 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: Christoph Kukulies cc: Steve Howe , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: X ld.so's In-Reply-To: <199705050651.IAA11960@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 5 May 1997, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > What X are you running ? XFree86 3.? X(formerly inside)? 2.2.1 - xf8632 > X Input Extensions - extends X to accept a variety of > other input devices like dials,tablets etc. is XIE a general lib for many devices (where do i find which ones?) and xf86Elo.so,xf86Jstk.so,etc specific to particular devices which can be run without XIE? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- i need to know for setting up CAD stations (many types of input) ... thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 00:45:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA10250 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 00:45:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA10244 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 00:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-132 [207.14.72.132]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA11844 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 22:42:21 -0800 Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 23:35:41 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: freebsd-questions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk xterm -fn Roman[.phont] (PEX font) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- should this work?y From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 00:57:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA10707 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 00:57:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.116.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA10702 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 00:57:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA27387; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:57:47 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) id KAA12181; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:14:36 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19970505101436.27457@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 10:14:36 +0200 From: Christoph Kukulies To: Steve Howe Cc: Christoph Kukulies , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: X ld.so's References: <199705050651.IAA11960@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69e In-Reply-To: ; from Steve Howe on Sun, May 04, 1997 at 11:13:56PM -0800 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, May 04, 1997 at 11:13:56PM -0800, Steve Howe wrote: > On Mon, 5 May 1997, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > > > What X are you running ? XFree86 3.? X(formerly inside)? > > 2.2.1 - xf8632 > > > X Input Extensions - extends X to accept a variety of > > other input devices like dials,tablets etc. Argh. Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses. As someone else correctly noted, XIE stands for X Imagining Extensions. Sorry. > > is XIE a general lib for many devices (where do i find which ones?) > and xf86Elo.so,xf86Jstk.so,etc specific to particular devices > which can be run without XIE? > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > i need to know for setting up CAD stations (many types of input) ... > > thanks. > -- Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 01:00:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA10891 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 01:00:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.116.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA10834 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 01:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA27501; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:00:52 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) id KAA12207; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:17:41 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19970505101741.28510@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 10:17:41 +0200 From: Christoph Kukulies To: Christoph Kukulies Cc: Steve Howe , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: X ld.so's References: <199705050651.IAA11960@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> <19970505101436.27457@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69e In-Reply-To: <19970505101436.27457@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de>; from Christoph Kukulies on Mon, May 05, 1997 at 10:14:36AM +0200 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, May 05, 1997 at 10:14:36AM +0200, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > On Sun, May 04, 1997 at 11:13:56PM -0800, Steve Howe wrote: > > On Mon, 5 May 1997, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > > > > > What X are you running ? XFree86 3.? X(formerly inside)? > > > > 2.2.1 - xf8632 > > > > > X Input Extensions - extends X to accept a variety of > > > other input devices like dials,tablets etc. > > Argh. Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses. As someone else > correctly noted, XIE stands for X Imagining Extensions. Sorry. Nice Freudian :-), I mean Imaging. > > > > > is XIE a general lib for many devices (where do i find which ones?) > > and xf86Elo.so,xf86Jstk.so,etc specific to particular devices > > which can be run without XIE? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > i need to know for setting up CAD stations (many types of input) ... > > > > thanks. > > > > -- > Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de -- -- Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 01:27:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA12001 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 01:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za (pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za [163.195.219.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA11994 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 01:27:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za (localhost.nanoteq.co.za [127.0.0.1]) by pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01801; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:27:27 GMT Message-Id: <199705051027.KAA01801@pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za> To: "Scott Stafford" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: g++ In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 04 May 1997 13:11:34 EST." <199705041811.NAA19238@mail.mankato.msus.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 10:27:27 +0000 From: Pierre-Andre van Leeuwen Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi, > > The computer system at my college runs version 4.4 of the ULTRIX operating > system. Is freeBSD comparable to this system? FreeBSD is comparable to any unix system and is a good choice if you want a stable programming platform. > > I am interested in using this OS to save me the trouble of logging in and > tying up a phone line whenever I need to compile a program. Most programs that aren't system depedant should compile on both systems without too much trouble. I have the same setup with SunOS at the university and FreeBSD at home. > > My second Question would be, does it have g++? > This is what I use to compile with. The 2.2.1-RELEASE of FreeBSD includes gcc and g++ version 2.7.2.1. > > Thank you for your time. > Scott Stafford -- Pierre-Andre van Leeuwen Electronic Engineer Powered By FreeBSD ******************************** * Nanoteq (Pty) Ltd. * * Specialists in data security * * E-mail : pvl@nanoteq.com * * Ph : +27 (0)12 665-1338 * * http://www.nanoteq.co.za * ******************************** From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 01:52:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA13161 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 01:52:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix.ukdw.ac.id (unix.ukdw.ac.id [167.205.153.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA13087 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 01:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from hendra@localhost) by unix.ukdw.ac.id (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA10792; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:53:42 +0700 (JVT) Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 15:53:42 +0700 (JVT) From: Hendra Sentono To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Can't get reply when pinging from inside network Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Our BSD 2.1.5-RELEASE configured as a gateway and firewall. It is installed with 2 network cards and configured to be able to give Internet connection for the inside network (with one NIC, the other NIC is connected to the Internet via VSAT connection) # parts of sysconfig router="routed" gateway=YES firewall=YES The problem is when a computer from the inside network try to ping any Internet address (such as www.yahoo.com), it can recognize the IP address, but it receives 'Request time out' message. Most of our inside network computers are Win95 with TCP/IP installed, DNS enabled (we configure the BSD machine as name server, too). In this situation our inside computers can't ftp-ing any outside sites (but it can ftp-ing the BSD machine and also some other BSD machines that have the same position/connected to the Internet directly as the former) Is the configuration false? Is there something wrong with TCP/IP utilities (ftp, ping, etc) in Win95? (please note that our knowledge about what exactly a firewall/gateway in BSD term is just a little) Thanks in advanced. ===================================================================== Hendra Sentono | hendra@students.ukdw.ac.id Duta Wacana Christian University | http://www.ukdw.ac.id/ Student of Information Technology | ===================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 02:05:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA13680 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 02:05:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acquiesce.org (mcj@acquiesce.org [207.40.204.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13675 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 02:05:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mcj@localhost) by acquiesce.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA00381; Mon, 5 May 1997 04:05:33 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19970505040531.23293@acquiesce.org> Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 04:05:31 -0500 From: Carey Jones To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: utmp problems? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.68 X-PGP: finger mcj@acquiesce.org for public key Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone seen this sort of problem before? This is on 2.2-STABLE, and everything that uses utmp seems to be highly broken: mcj@acquiesce:~> w w: /dev//á m3ttyp3: No such file or directory mcj@acquiesce:~> last Ìm3 *~ Sat Sep 23 06:24 - 02:16 (20:52) *ttyv Bm3 1 Wed Dec 31 18:00 still logged in 1 *ttyv Wed Dec 31 18:00 still logged in ot Sun Dec 26 04:52 still logged in down Wed Dec 31 18:02 still logged in etc etc Also, I found that when i try to run 'vidcontrol VGA_80x30', it gives me the error 'cannot set vidmode: device not configured'...i don't know if these two problems are related or not, but any help anyone could give me would be much appreciated. Thanks... From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 02:12:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA13946 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 02:12:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de [141.31.166.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13926 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 02:11:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from helbig@localhost) by helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA22591; Mon, 5 May 1997 11:09:59 +0200 (MET DST) From: Wolfgang Helbig Message-Id: <199705050909.LAA22591@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Subject: Re: where is FAQ.ascii? In-Reply-To: <199705050343.UAA23464@psln1.psln.com> from Daniel Keller at "May 4, 97 09:13:19 pm" To: dkeller@psln.com (Daniel Keller) Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 11:09:58 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I tried to view FAQ.latin1 in wordpad in Win95 and with vi in FreeBSD, > neither one displayed it correctly. > What should I use to view these latin1 files? I only work with the locally installed FAQ and handbook files, so what follows might not apply to the files on the FTP server. There are some control characters like ^H in FAQ.latin1 -- and in FAQ.ascii as well to produce hiliting on the printer or terminal. It does the right thing when using lpr(1) or more(1). For *.gz files use zmore(1) to view them on the terminal. Don't use vi, since it won't send control characters like ^H (backspace) to the terminal, instead it would display the two printable characters `^' and `H'. This feature is *not* what you want when reading FAQ.ascii or FAQ.latin1. Wolfgang From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 02:34:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA14862 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 02:34:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from teitelbaum.ph.biu.ac.il (teitelbaum.ph.biu.ac.il [132.70.33.219]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA14849 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 02:34:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from zkoza@localhost) by teitelbaum.ph.biu.ac.il (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA15412 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 5 May 1997 12:33:01 +0300 (IDT) Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 12:33:01 +0300 (IDT) From: Zbigniew Koza Message-Id: <199705050933.MAA15412@teitelbaum.ph.biu.ac.il> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: g77 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The port for g77 is very old and does not work. (It requires a relatively old version of gcc). Shouldn't it be updated ore deleted? I tried to compile g77 from g77-0.5.19.1.tar.gz (ftp.cdrom.com/pub/gnu), but the "make bootstrap" command failed with an error "I don't know how to make hash.h". Any hope for me to install g77? Z. Koza (FreeBSD 2.2.1-Release) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 02:53:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA15478 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 02:53:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (www.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA15471 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 02:53:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id LAA02533; Mon, 5 May 1997 11:53:01 +0200 Received: (from zgabor@localhost) by CoDe.hu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA00506; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:22:37 +0200 (MET DST) From: Zahemszky Gabor Message-Id: <199705050822.KAA00506@CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: permissions To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 10:22:36 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: un_x@anchorage.net In-Reply-To: from Steve Howe at "May 4, 97 01:43:14 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > > > > > why is it that i can open, modify, and save changes to a > > > > > file with r--r--r-- perms (as root)? shouldn't a file be > > > > > read only under these conditions? > > > > > > > > What do you mean, "as root"? > > joe editor ... i just checked with "pico" - it will NOT allow me to do > as described above. joe is the only one i can say for sure. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- With vi editor, if you're root (or any other user with UID 0), you CAN save into a non-writeable file, with :w! filename or exit-with-save :x! filename format. Gabor --- #!/bin/ksh trap 'rm -f /tmp/$$.$$' EXIT HUP INT QUIT TERM&&print '21N16I25C25E30, 40M30E33E25T15U!'>/tmp/$$.$$&&IFS=' ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ '&&set -A X $( Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA15500 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 02:53:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (www.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA15493 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 02:53:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id LAA02537; Mon, 5 May 1997 11:53:07 +0200 Received: (from zgabor@localhost) by CoDe.hu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA00520; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:27:06 +0200 (MET DST) From: Zahemszky Gabor Message-Id: <199705050827.KAA00520@CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: test -f $shvar To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 10:27:06 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: wosch@apfel.de In-Reply-To: from Wolfram Schneider at "May 3, 97 04:20:35 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Steve Howe writes: > > > anyone notice how "test -f $shvar" always results in "true"? > > The programmer must check if the variable `shvar' is > not empty. E.g.: > > test -n "$shvar" -a -f "$shvar" I don't know, why isn't it enough: test -f "$shvar" if the shvar is empty, the test is -f "", but (as I know) I cannot have a file with null-length name, so it will be false. Gabor -- #!/bin/ksh trap 'rm -f /tmp/$$.$$' EXIT HUP INT QUIT TERM&&print '21N16I25C25E30, 40M30E33E25T15U!'>/tmp/$$.$$&&IFS=' ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ '&&set -A X $( Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA15529 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 02:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (www.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA15514 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 02:53:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id LAA02548; Mon, 5 May 1997 11:53:18 +0200 Received: (from zgabor@localhost) by CoDe.hu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA00463; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:02:57 +0200 (MET DST) From: Zahemszky Gabor Message-Id: <199705050802.KAA00463@CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: no pipes allowed To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 10:02:57 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: un_x@anchorage.net In-Reply-To: from Steve Howe at "Apr 29, 97 08:26:34 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > "which", it seems to me, SHOULD accept input from STDIN, > from what i've learned - since the command had no use > without any arguments ... ? > > Well, write it to the original unknown author of which. (Not the author of the FreeBSD's which, he only made it compatible with the other `which's.) Gabor From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 02:53:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA15556 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 02:53:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (www.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA15541 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 02:53:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id LAA02551; Mon, 5 May 1997 11:53:23 +0200 Received: (from zgabor@localhost) by CoDe.hu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA00481; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:13:28 +0200 (MET DST) From: Zahemszky Gabor Message-Id: <199705050813.KAA00481@CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: sh - lists, pipes & exits To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 10:13:27 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: un_x@anchorage.net In-Reply-To: from Steve Howe at "Apr 29, 97 03:37:41 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > how can i return an exit value (to the invokers shell) of a command in a > list which gets piped into "more" ... > > { gcc 2>&1 see.c; xit=$?; if [ $xit ]; then exit $xit; fi; } | more > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > of course, "xit" ends up getting "wiped", and more is executed regardless. > i can't figure out how to do this without executing gcc 2x ... > such as follows ... > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > gcc 1>&- 2>&- see.c; xit=$? > if [ $xit != 0 ]; then blah; blah; exit $xit > else gcc 2>&1 see.c | more > fi > > 1) $ { gcc see.c ; echo $? > /tmp/compiler.out.$$ ; } | more ; xit=`cat /tmp/compiler.out.$$ ; rm -f /tmp/compiler.out.$$` 2) Look around in ksh's (zsh/bash cannot do it!) coprocesses and the wait command (well, I tried it, but couldn't find a quick answer). Gabor From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 03:02:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA16072 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 03:02:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from korky.fe.up.pt (korky.fe.up.pt [192.82.214.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA16065 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 03:02:12 -0700 (PDT) From: ee96199@tom.fe.up.pt Received: by korky.fe.up.pt; id AA25935; Mon, 5 May 1997 11:02:38 GMT Received: from localhost by tom.fe.up.pt; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/16Oct95-1216PM) id AA15597; Mon, 5 May 1997 11:03:57 GMT Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 11:03:57 +0000 (GMT) To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: CDROM configuration Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a IDE CDROM which is connected to my Sound Blaster 16 IDE controller at 0x168, irq 10. I've tried to configure it using the -c option at boot time and then the visual option and nothing... It doesn't work. I already used the CDROM in the secondary IDE controller but I need to run Windows to use sound processecing software which is only available in Windows and Windows doesn't recognize my CDROM in the secondary IDE controller. My CDROM is a CD-581 Matsushita, sold with the Creative Labs Sound Blaster 16. Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. Jorge From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 04:48:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA19937 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 04:48:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beta.mep.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (beta.mep.ruhr-uni-bochum.de [134.147.6.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA19932 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 04:48:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from roberte@localhost) by beta.mep.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA03418; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:47:40 +0200 (MET DST) From: Robert Eckardt Message-Id: <199705051147.NAA03418@beta.mep.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Subject: Re: Problems connecting to the internet In-Reply-To: from Bryan Liesner at "5. May. 97 2:11:33" To: bleez@netaxs.com (Bryan Liesner) Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 13:47:39 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: dkeller@psln.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Sun, 4 May 1997, Daniel Keller wrote: > > > Now my new problem: I have all my files set up as is described in the > > handbook. I can tell ppp to dial, it dials and connects and logs in fine. > > Then I switch to another terminal and try ping. If I try "ping localhost" I > > get: > > > > Ping: send to: Permission denied > > Ping: wrote localhost 64 chars, ret=-1 Did you configure IPFIREWALL in your kernel ? If so then you have to define the rules (in the simplest case open for everything and everybody). > When you say all files, did you set up resolv.conf, host.conf, and hosts? > If not, check these files out - > > resolv.conf should have at least one line with: > nameserver XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX <- your isp's nameserver address > > hosts should have (minimally): > 127.0.0.1 localhost <- there should be a sample in your /etc > > host.conf (which I believe is already set up in /etc): > hosts > bind -- Dr. Robert Eckardt ( Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Inst.f.Theor.Physik, NB6/169 ) Universitaetsstrasse 150, D-44780 Bochum, Germany ----X---8---- Telefon: +49 234 700-3709, Telefax: +49 234 7094-574 8 E-Mail: RobertE@MEP.Ruhr-Uni-Bochum.de --------8---- URL: http://WWW.MEP.Ruhr-Uni-Bochum.de/~roberte >>> A magician never reveals his secret: the unbelievable trick becomes <<< >>> simple and obvious once it is explained. <<< From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 04:54:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA20146 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 04:54:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spike.fa.gau.hu (maint@spike.fa.gau.hu [192.188.243.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20141 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 04:54:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (maint@localhost) by spike.fa.gau.hu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA25924 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:53:54 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 13:53:53 +0200 (CEST) From: Maintenance user To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I run 2.2 stable, installed 22upgrade-97.04.18.tgz, but ucd-snmp still doesn't compile. If you have any suggestions, please let me know! And here are the error messages: extensible.c: In function `var_extensible_mem': extensible.c:474: `VM_METER' undeclared (first use this function) extensible.c:474: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once extensible.c:474: for each function it appears in.) extensible.c:474: initializer element for `mib[1]' is not constant *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Bye, Peter From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 04:58:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA20314 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 04:58:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beta.mep.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (beta.mep.ruhr-uni-bochum.de [134.147.6.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA20305 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 04:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from roberte@localhost) by beta.mep.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA03435; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:54:35 +0200 (MET DST) From: Robert Eckardt Message-Id: <199705051154.NAA03435@beta.mep.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Subject: Re: Can't get reply when pinging from inside network In-Reply-To: from Hendra Sentono at "5. May. 97 15:51:50" To: hendra@unix.ukdw.ac.id (Hendra Sentono) Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 13:54:34 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Our BSD 2.1.5-RELEASE configured as a gateway and firewall. > It is installed with 2 network cards and configured to be able to > give Internet connection for the inside network (with one NIC, the > other NIC is connected to the Internet via VSAT connection) > > # parts of sysconfig > router="routed" > gateway=YES > firewall=YES > > The problem is when a computer from the inside network try to ping > any Internet address (such as www.yahoo.com), it can recognize the > IP address, but it receives 'Request time out' message. > > Most of our inside network computers are Win95 with TCP/IP installed, > DNS enabled (we configure the BSD machine as name server, too). > > In this situation our inside computers can't ftp-ing any outside > sites (but it can ftp-ing the BSD machine and also some other BSD > machines that have the same position/connected to the Internet > directly as the former) > > Is the configuration false? Is there something wrong with TCP/IP > utilities (ftp, ping, etc) in Win95? > (please note that our knowledge about what exactly a firewall/gateway > in BSD term is just a little) Did you enable IPFIREWALL in your kernel config file ? (I think so.) You have to define the rules which IP packages are allowed to pass in and out. The default in 2.1.5 (and ff) is to deny any packets. Start with /etc/rc.firewall and ipfw(8). Robert > Hendra Sentono | hendra@students.ukdw.ac.id -- Dr. Robert Eckardt ( Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Inst.f.Theor.Physik, NB6/169 ) Universitaetsstrasse 150, D-44780 Bochum, Germany ----X---8---- Telefon: +49 234 700-3709, Telefax: +49 234 7094-574 8 E-Mail: RobertE@MEP.Ruhr-Uni-Bochum.de --------8---- URL: http://WWW.MEP.Ruhr-Uni-Bochum.de/~roberte >>> A magician never reveals his secret: the unbelievable trick becomes <<< >>> simple and obvious once it is explained. <<< From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 05:02:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA20512 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:02:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (gatekeeper.barcode.co.il [192.116.93.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA20505 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:02:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (8.8.5/8.6.12) id OAA29360; Mon, 5 May 1997 14:59:26 +0300 (IDT) X-Authentication-Warning: gatekeeper.barcode.co.il: smap set sender to using -f Received: from localhost.barcode.co.il(127.0.0.1) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il via smap (V1.3) id sma029357; Mon May 5 14:58:57 1997 Message-ID: <336DCBC5.184E@barcode.co.il> Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 15:00:05 +0300 From: Nadav Eiron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ee96199@tom.fe.up.pt CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CDROM configuration References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ee96199@tom.fe.up.pt wrote: > > I have a IDE CDROM which is connected to my Sound Blaster 16 IDE > controller at 0x168, irq 10. > > I've tried to configure it using the -c option at boot time and > then the visual option and nothing... It doesn't work. > > I already used the CDROM in the secondary IDE controller but > I need to run Windows to use sound processecing software which > is only available in Windows and Windows doesn't recognize my CDROM > in the secondary IDE controller. Well, it should. If you're talking plain windows (not Win95), look in your config.sys. You'll see a device driver for the CD there, with command line switches specifying the I/O ports and IRQ line. Change those to reflect the new drive's position and it should work. I think that SBs used to come with a utility that changed that for you if you told it what controller you're using, but I might be mistaken on this. > > My CDROM is a CD-581 Matsushita, sold with the Creative Labs > Sound Blaster 16. > > Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. > Jorge Nadav From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 05:32:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA21397 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:32:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay1.shore.net (root@relay1.shore.net [192.233.85.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA21392 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:32:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from snowtiger (lynnma-02-67.port.shore.net [204.167.109.67]) by relay1.shore.net (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id IAA21353 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:32:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705051232.IAA21353@relay1.shore.net> From: "Alfred J Wheeler" To: Subject: HELP! #include Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 08:30:30 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi freebsd Rep, How do I specify "where" X11 is? Is this done in e.g. .tcshrc ? #include My immediate goal is to recompile arena from source, because the one that comes on the 2.2.1 distribution doesn't run for me. I don't wonder if you've heard that one before; oh, well... I expect that arena should run fine, so what did I not do (right)? Yes I know, pretty vague.... I've installed practically every www and X11 package. Chimera runs fine, but I'm interested in the html 3.0 and higher features. I plan to work in "Java". I've built a very vanilla 2 node network 1 pentium and 1 386. I do not think this is relevant to the above question, but telnet, ftp, and nfs work between the two nodes, however I cannot ppp to my ISP. Please HELP me. Thankyou. :-) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 05:32:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA21448 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:32:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.pi.net (root@mailhost.pi.net [145.220.3.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA21439 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:32:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Amigo (gn62.pi.net [145.220.201.62]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.8.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id OAA20526; Mon, 5 May 1997 14:32:19 +0200 (MET DST) Posted-Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 14:32:19 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <336DD333.41C67EA6@pobox.com> Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 12:31:47 +0000 From: Wouter de Boer Organization: Planet Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD CC: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Subject: 2.2.1 Installation -> problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, When my harddisk with FreeBSD 2.1.7 crashed, I need to install FreeBSD again. I received on the same day the FreeBSD 2.2.1 CD ROM. So I installed this version. However, there where some problems. - Compiling a custom kernel. When I compiled the kernel again and try to start xdm, and error occurs with no SYSVSHM support. I never had this problem before, when I compiled kernels for version 2.1.7. I fixed this problem by adding this three options to the kernel. Why are these options removed from the GENERIC kernel file ?? - When I add suppport for my SoundBlaster I see a warning about line 194 of sound\soundcard.c something about 'adintr'. Why ?? - I don't see the device audio0 and the link audio in my device directory. So I added this two to my device. Onew with the commadn mknod and one with ln. I add the package nas to my computer and try to start au. But I see the error: Fatal server error: could not create audio connection block info I never saw this error when I did the same using version 2.1.7. Do I something wrong ?? Missing something ?? - xload won't work as normal user. Happy for me I asked this earlier and I fixed the problem, but why is this still unsolved ?? - when I try to run the command 'man cp' for example I see this error: Formatting page, please wait...Done. less: not found Error executing formatting or display command. system command exited with status 256 never saw this error in version 2.1.7. - What is the standard directory for apache ?? Version 2.1.7 used the apache directory /usr/local/www/server/conf. But in version 2.1.7 this directory isn't used. The directory is now /usr/local/etc/apache/. Why ?? Which is the standard direcory for apache ?? - Maybe a stupid question. When I run moused, my mouse under X windows won't work why ?? Can anybody help me to solve this problems or give an answer to explain something ?? thanks, Wouter From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 05:34:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA21678 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:34:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de [141.31.166.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA21670 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:34:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from helbig@localhost) by helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA17127; Mon, 5 May 1997 14:31:50 +0200 (MET DST) From: Wolfgang Helbig Message-Id: <199705051231.OAA17127@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Subject: Re: Can't get reply when pinging from inside network In-Reply-To: from Hendra Sentono at "May 5, 97 03:53:42 pm" To: hendra@unix.ukdw.ac.id (Hendra Sentono) Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 14:31:49 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Our BSD 2.1.5-RELEASE configured as a gateway and firewall. > It is installed with 2 network cards and configured to be able to > give Internet connection for the inside network (with one NIC, the > other NIC is connected to the Internet via VSAT connection) > > # parts of sysconfig > router="routed" > gateway=YES > firewall=YES > > The problem is when a computer from the inside network try to ping > any Internet address (such as www.yahoo.com), it can recognize the > IP address, but it receives 'Request time out' message. > > Most of our inside network computers are Win95 with TCP/IP installed, > DNS enabled (we configure the BSD machine as name server, too). > > In this situation our inside computers can't ftp-ing any outside > sites (but it can ftp-ing the BSD machine and also some other BSD > machines that have the same position/connected to the Internet > directly as the former) It looks like your firewall configuration is correct, (read the firewall section in /usr/share/doc/handbook.html if in doubt) but you want to use your BSD machine as a gateway as well, so you have to set gateway="YES" in /etc/sysconfig to get it started at bootime, or set it later with # sysctl -w net.inet.ip.forwarding=1 Wolfgang From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 06:13:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA23270 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 06:13:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from svl.tec.army.mil (svl.tec.army.mil [206.37.31.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA23263 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 06:13:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from piglet.tec.army.mil ([127.0.0.1]) by svl.tec.army.mil (8.8.4/8.8.4/svl12.96) with ESMTP id JAA12873 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:13:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705051313.JAA12873@svl.tec.army.mil> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Question: HP-Vectra AMD SCSI/ethernet board & driver status Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-quote: "I get this silly squeaking when I try to play the blues" --Ernie Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 09:13:44 -0400 From: Anne Brink Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Happy Monday morning, folks! What's the status on the driver for the on-board SCSI and ethernet controller for the HP-Vectra? Archives from the mailing list from several months ago indicate that then, it was only partially supported; however, the 3.0SNAP from February boot floppy managed to recognize both the ethernet and all the attached SCSI devices. But, instead of getting the familiar stand/sysinstall menu, I get a black screen with a little cursor at the bottom left-- not conducive to getting an installed system. So, the question is, 'should this be working and I should try to track down driver/IRQ conflicts, or, should it not be working so I should go find another machine?' (Or, I guess, 'should I go download the brand spanking new SNAP release?') Thanks for any help, -Anne Brink anneb@svl.tec.army.mil -- "The only thing more frightening than a programmer with a screwdriver or a hardware engineer with a program is a user with a pair of wire cutters and the root password." -E. Zwicky. ----programmer with screwdriver, be warned----------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 06:23:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA23763 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 06:23:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from r33h142.res.gatech.edu (r33h142.res.gatech.edu [128.61.33.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA23753 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 06:23:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jason@localhost) by r33h142.res.gatech.edu (8.8.5/8.7.3) id JAA01263; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:23:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970505092314.40995@r33h142.res.gatech.edu> Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 09:23:14 -0400 From: Jason Bennett To: Alfred J Wheeler Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HELP! #include References: <199705051232.IAA21353@relay1.shore.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69e In-Reply-To: <199705051232.IAA21353@relay1.shore.net>; from Alfred J Wheeler on Mon, May 05, 1997 at 08:30:30AM -0400 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Quoting Alfred J Wheeler (awheeler@shore.net): > My immediate goal is to recompile arena from source, because the one that > comes on the 2.2.1 distribution doesn't run for me. I don't wonder if > you've heard that one before; oh, well... The latest Yggdrasl arena requires libwww v5 to compile, while we only have v4 in the ports tree. I don't think it will compile anyway. If you are working with a w3c version, that doesn't apply. jason -- Jason Bennett, jbennett@cc.gatech.edu | Member, Team OS/2! CS Major, Georgia Institute of Technology | Senior TA, CS 1501! Believer in Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord | VP-Comm, BSU! http://bsu.gt.ed.net/~jason/ | finger for PGP key! From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 06:43:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA24580 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 06:43:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dresden.bmc.com (dresden.bmc.com [198.64.253.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA24575 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 06:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by dresden.bmc.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA09766 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:43:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cherry.bmc.com(172.17.1.25) by dresden.bmc.com via smap (3.2) id xma009646; Mon, 5 May 97 08:42:37 -0500 Received: from sunny.bmc.com (sunny.bmc.com [172.19.200.35]) by cherry.bmc.com with SMTP (8.7.5/8.7.3) id IAA10706 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:42:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost.bmc.com by sunny.bmc.com; (1.38.193.4/1.1.8.2/08Sep94-1118AM) id AA09242; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:42:33 -0500 Message-Id: <336DE3C8.26E7@accesscomm.net> Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 08:42:32 -0500 From: Dan Harty X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; HP-UX A.09.05 9000/712) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: I did bad things to my disk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have had 4 OS's split equally on two hard drives on my machine for some time now,OS/2 WinCrap95, FreeBSD and NT. I haven't used NT in months so I decided to take over it's partition and split it into two to be mounted on /compat and /freespace. I ran sysinstall and used the dispart and disklabel program (Apparantly incorrectly as the machine wigged and did a sync and reboot) when it came back, the BSD bootmanager cannot find the kernel, my question is, if I originally had two partitions on this drive (NT and FreeBSD, in that order) and converted NT to a FreeBSD partition, does that relabel the current FreeBSD partitions? IE, would sd1a change to sd1b ? -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Generic Duck and Weave: The above expressed views do not reflect those of BMC Software or their subsidiaries unless otherwise noted. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. --(Rich Cook) --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 06:55:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA25273 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 06:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from economic.acnit.ac.ru (economic.acnit.ac.ru [193.233.113.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA25183 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 06:53:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bazilio@localhost) by economic.acnit.ac.ru (8.8.5/8.8.4) id QAA02367; Mon, 5 May 1997 16:49:06 +0400 (MSD) Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 16:49:06 +0400 (MSD) From: "Vasily V. Grechishnikov" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: PCI IDE CMD640 ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi ! I have P5 motherboard with onboard PCI IDE controller. And I have 2.2R. I compiled kernel with option CMD640. How I can see wdc0 works as PCI IDE or no ? dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-1996 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 2.2-RELEASE #0: Mon May 5 14:55:15 MSD 1997 bazilio@economic.acnit.ac.ru:/usr/src/sys/compile/BAZILIOS-KERNEL-IV CPU: Pentium (119.76-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x526 Stepping=6 Features=0x1bf real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) avail memory = 30777344 (30056K bytes) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0 rev 1 on pci0:0 chip1 rev 1 on pci0:7:0 chip2 rev 0 on pci0:7:1 ^ * *************** PCI IDE vga0 rev 211 int a irq 11 on pci0:13 de0 rev 36 int a irq 10 on pci0:17 de0: 21040 [10Mb/s] pass 2.4 de0: address 00:80:c8:26:7c:34 de0: enabling BNC/AUI port Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 at 0x240-0x25f irq 5 on isa ed0: address 00:40:95:80:99:60, type NE2000 (16 bit) ed1 at 0x280-0x29f irq 12 on isa ed1: address 00:40:95:80:96:49, type NE2000 (16 bit) lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A pca0 on motherboard pca0: PC speaker audio driver wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 1222MB (2503872 sectors), 2484 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: NEC 72065B fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in fd1: 1.2MB 5.25in npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface wdc0: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, accel, ovlap, dma, iordis Thanks , Vasily . ******[FreeBSD it is coolest UNIX for PC!]******* * System admin , ftp and web master. * * Home Page: http://www.econ.acnit.ac.ru/ * * E-mail: bazilio@economic.acnit.ac.ru * * fidonet: 2:5025/37.8 * * * * Industrial Economy Departament * * Voronezh State Technical University * * * ************************************************* From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 07:14:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA26356 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:14:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA26350 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:14:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-130 [207.14.72.130]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA12823; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:11:05 -0800 Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 06:04:21 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: Zahemszky Gabor cc: FreeBSD questions , wosch@apfel.de Subject: Re: test -f $shvar In-Reply-To: <199705050827.KAA00520@CoDe.hu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > The programmer must check if the variable `shvar' is > > not empty. E.g.: > > test -n "$shvar" -a -f "$shvar" > I don't know, why isn't it enough: > test -f "$shvar" > Gabor ^^^^^ shell genius! haha! i get into trouble sometimes because i don't like to use quotes more than necessary ... thanks everyone ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 07:38:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA27769 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:38:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from plains.nodak.edu (tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu [134.129.111.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA27764 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:38:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by plains.nodak.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA23898; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:38:50 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 09:38:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <199705051438.JAA23898@plains.nodak.edu> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, shovey@buffnet.net Subject: Re: java compiler Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Is there a java compiler for freebsd? Im not having much luck finding > anything but one for win95. there is kaffe in the ports files and also a port of JDK 1.02 at: freefall.FreeBSD.org:/pub/FreeBSD/LOCAL_PORTS/jdk10.tar.gz It also sounds like there are three people working on porting JDK 1.1 to FreeBSD. --mark. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 07:46:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA28373 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:46:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA28332 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:46:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet3.buffnet.net (shovey@buffnet3.buffnet.net [205.246.19.12]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA14830; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:47:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 10:46:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Hovey To: Mark Tinguely cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: java compiler In-Reply-To: <199705051438.JAA23898@plains.nodak.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 5 May 1997, Mark Tinguely wrote: > > Is there a java compiler for freebsd? Im not having much luck finding > > anything but one for win95. > > there is kaffe in the ports files and also a port of JDK 1.02 at: > > freefall.FreeBSD.org:/pub/FreeBSD/LOCAL_PORTS/jdk10.tar.gz Freefall wont allow an anonymous login - it says 'failed to set guest privies'. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 07:59:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA29116 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA29107 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:59:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (shovey@buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA15034 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 11:00:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 11:00:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: dual boots Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk If I wanted to install NT4 and Freebsd 3 on the same machine, must I install first? I know this was an important question with win95 etc, but Ive forgotton what the answer was, and dont know if it applies to NT. Any info is appreciated! From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 08:04:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA29401 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:04:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA29396 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:04:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ganoid.csv.warwick.ac.uk (csubl@ganoid.csv.warwick.ac.uk [137.205.148.205]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA03957 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:03:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Mr M P Searle Message-Id: <1420.199705051503@ganoid.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Received: by ganoid.csv.warwick.ac.uk id QAA01420; Mon, 5 May 1997 16:03:45 +0100 (BST) Subject: New 3.0-SNAP has SMP? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 16:03:40 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've heard that a few days ago a new 3.0-SNAP was released. Does this CD have SMP support provided (that is as part of the system on the CD, without downloading extra stuff)? (And what's the date of this SNAP?) Thanks, Michael. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 08:05:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA29535 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:05:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (gatekeeper.barcode.co.il [192.116.93.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA29530 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:05:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nadav@localhost) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (8.8.5/8.6.12) id SAA29984; Mon, 5 May 1997 18:02:34 +0300 (IDT) Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 18:02:34 +0300 (IDT) From: Nadav Eiron To: Dan Harty cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I did bad things to my disk In-Reply-To: <336DE3C8.26E7@accesscomm.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 5 May 1997, Dan Harty wrote: > I have had 4 OS's split equally on two hard drives on my machine for > some time now,OS/2 WinCrap95, FreeBSD and NT. I haven't used NT in > months so I decided to take over it's partition and split it into two to > be mounted on /compat and /freespace. I ran sysinstall and used the > dispart and disklabel program (Apparantly incorrectly as the machine > wigged and did a sync and reboot) when it came back, the BSD bootmanager > cannot find the kernel, my question is, if I originally had two > partitions on this drive (NT and FreeBSD, in that order) and converted > NT to a FreeBSD partition, does that relabel the current FreeBSD > partitions? > IE, would sd1a change to sd1b ? No! Your situation is much worse! The FreeBSD boot code *always* expects the root filesystem to be on partition 'a' of the *first* BSD slice on the disk. Now, what used to be the first BSD slice on your disk now became the second (because there's a new BSD slice in front of it), so the boot code cannot find the root partition. Having two FreeBSD slices on the same disk is a mess. Avoid it at all costs. If it cannot be avoided, you should probably make a new installation into the first slice, then copy important things from the original root filesystem to the new one, modifying /etc/fstab to use the original partitions. > > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Generic Duck and Weave: > The above expressed views do not reflect those of BMC Software or > their subsidiaries unless otherwise noted. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to > build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the Universe trying > to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. > --(Rich Cook) > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Nadav From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 08:06:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA29672 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (gatekeeper.barcode.co.il [192.116.93.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA29660 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:06:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nadav@localhost) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (8.8.5/8.6.12) id RAA29967; Mon, 5 May 1997 17:59:25 +0300 (IDT) Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 17:59:25 +0300 (IDT) From: Nadav Eiron To: "Vasily V. Grechishnikov" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCI IDE CMD640 ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 5 May 1997, Vasily V. Grechishnikov wrote: > Hi ! > I have P5 motherboard with onboard PCI IDE controller. And I have 2.2R. > I compiled kernel with option CMD640. How I can see wdc0 works as PCI IDE > or no ? It seems that you *don't* have a CMD640b. Don't use CMD640 then. It just slows down your machine (does not allow concurrent I/O on both channels). Your machine should be just fine without it. You only need CMD640 if you have a CMD640 controller, like so: pci0:8: CMD, device=0x0640, class=storage (ide) int a irq 14 [no driver assigned] [boot messages snipped] Nadav From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 08:08:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA29828 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cold.org (cold.org [206.81.134.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA29823 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:08:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (brandon@localhost) by cold.org (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id JAA08086; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:08:15 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 09:08:15 -0600 (MDT) From: Brandon Gillespie To: Dan Nelson cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 'ntpdate' time server In-Reply-To: <19970505002129.62030@dan.emsphone.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 5 May 1997, Dan Nelson wrote: > On Sun, 4 May 1997, Brandon Gillespie wrote: > > I don't want the standard xntpd server, I want a server that you can > > point 'ntpdate' too along the lines of 'ntpdate foof.com' and it > > updates your clock. The reason I want this server is I have a > > firewalled network, and I want servers on the firewall'ed side to > > somehow get their time sanity from a machine which can sync with > > others in the world. I figured I could have a server outside the > > firewall keep in sync with other boxes on the net, and in turn it > > could be a server for the firewalled side of the network. The > > connectivity isn't a concern--I can handle that. My only problem is > > I have no idea how to setup a server that 'ntpdate' will recognize as > > such. I don't want to setup a continuous xntpd syncing mechanism, I > > just want to have the firewalled boxes run ntpdate once a night. > > Help? I've dickered with xntpd trying to get it to do what I want to > > no avail... > > You _want_ an xntpd server :) Ntpdate is a 'single-fire' xntpd, which > means it polls an xntpd server for the time. You'll have to set up an > xntpd on your firewall machine (or another box that can see both sides > of the wall) and have your inside clients poll it. Do you have a > reason for not wanting to put xntpd on your machines? Well, I tried that, and it didn't work (even from two boxes on the same network), so I'm assuming I didn't configure xntpd right. Basically, I had it configured and running on Box A, on the same network as Box B (both FreeBSD), but running ntpdate on Box B and pointing it to Box A just errors out with 'no server suitable for synchronization found' even though xntpd is running on that box (if you try and run ntpdate on the box while xntpd is running it whines about an ntp server already running). So basically, I guess my question is.. what do I have to do to get xntpd to run 'right' for my situation? -Brandon Gillespie From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 08:11:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA29967 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:11:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omni.norilsk.ru (infoce-2-ll.ll4.relcom.ru [193.124.250.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA29948 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:11:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from matrix.omni.norilsk.ru by omni.norilsk.ru with ESMTP id XAA15687; (8.6.11/vak/1.9) Mon, 5 May 1997 23:08:44 -0700 Message-Id: <199705060608.XAA15687@omni.norilsk.ru> From: "Artem Koutchine" To: Subject: terrible delays problems with kernel pppd Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 23:08:19 +0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! I have setup a dynamic ppp for my win95 users and now i am experiencing a very strange problem. A delay occurs in certain conditions: 1) After a user just connects to the server using windows95 dial-up capabilities ansd starts pppd 2) If the user stops working for some time (3-5 minutes). A delay is from 1 to 3 minutes long and, no need to say, is very annoying. During this dalay it is not possible to connect anywhere, including my server, even though the name is taken from hosts (since the channel to DNS can be too busy to answer a dns query). It is not even possible to get pop mail. It seems that the problem is somewhere is rounting, but i just cannot figure it out. Please, share you thoughts with me, i just ran out of ideas. Before i got real ip addresses, i used the addresses from 192.168.*.* (officially allowed for internal networks) and there was no such problem then. Here is my setup for kernel pppd: # options crtscts modem defaultroute -detach # also tried adding and deleting in all combinations: proxyarp, debug, domain norilsk.ru # options.ttyd2 # pretty much the same for all ttyd's 193.124.250.50:194.135.38.2 Also, my host.conf is a little bit no stardard: #host.conf # since the gateway connection is very slow, i need to put hosts first, since the DSN can die any monute hosts bind Thank you Artem Koutchine matrix@norilsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 08:15:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA00318 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:15:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from korky.fe.up.pt (korky.fe.up.pt [192.82.214.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA29878 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:09:24 -0700 (PDT) From: ee96199@tom.fe.up.pt Received: by korky.fe.up.pt; id AA28214; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:26:35 GMT Received: from localhost by tom.fe.up.pt; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/16Oct95-1216PM) id AA11662; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:27:50 GMT Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 15:27:50 +0000 (GMT) To: Nadav Eiron Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CDROM configuration In-Reply-To: <336DCBC5.184E@barcode.co.il> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 5 May 1997, Nadav Eiron wrote: > Well, it should. If you're talking plain windows (not Win95), look in > your config.sys. You'll see a device driver for the CD there, with > command line switches specifying the I/O ports and IRQ line. Change > those to reflect the new drive's position and it should work. I think > that SBs used to come with a utility that changed that for you if you > told it what controller you're using, but I might be mistaken on this. Well, it's Win95 and it recognizes data CDs perfectly. It just has problems with music CDs which is what I really want. What happens is that the CDs reads the CD and reads and Win95 cannot play the music. I really don't know what the problem might be. So I need to use FreeBSD with this configuration (0x168, irq 10). The CD drive is IDE but how cna I change the settings on FreeBSD kernel to support an IDE controller in 0x168 at irq 10? Thanks again Jorge > > > > > My CDROM is a CD-581 Matsushita, sold with the Creative Labs > > Sound Blaster 16. > > > > Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. > > Jorge > Nadav > From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 08:17:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA00465 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:17:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de [141.31.166.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA00460 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from helbig@localhost) by helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA20766; Mon, 5 May 1997 17:17:07 +0200 (MET DST) From: Wolfgang Helbig Message-Id: <199705051517.RAA20766@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Subject: Re: 2.2.1 Installation -> problems In-Reply-To: <336DD333.41C67EA6@pobox.com> from Wouter de Boer at "May 5, 97 12:31:47 pm" To: wouter.de.boer@pobox.com (Wouter de Boer) Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 17:17:07 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@time.cdrom.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hello, > > When my harddisk with FreeBSD 2.1.7 crashed, I need to install FreeBSD > again. I received on the same day the FreeBSD 2.2.1 CD ROM. Good old disk waiting for FreeBSD 2.2.1 :-) > > So I installed this version. However, there where some problems. > > - Compiling a custom kernel. When I compiled the kernel again and try to > start xdm, and error occurs with no SYSVSHM support. I never had this > problem before, when I compiled kernels for version 2.1.7. I fixed this > problem by adding this three options to the kernel. Why are these > options removed from the GENERIC kernel file ?? A GENERIC kernel with SYSVHSM support would not fit on the installation disk any more. > - When I add suppport for my SoundBlaster I see a warning about line 194 > of sound\soundcard.c something about 'adintr'. Why ?? Don't know. > - I don't see the device audio0 and the link audio in my device > directory. So I added this two to my device. Onew with the commadn mknod > and one with ln. I add the package nas to my computer and try to start > au. But I see the error: > > Fatal server error: > could not create audio connection block info This can have many causes: Does the driver probe the sound card correctly during booting? You might want to do dmesg to check this after booting. Are the major and minor of the device file set correctly? Are the permissions of the /dev/audio and /dev/audio0 set correctly? Did you check another package that uses the sounddriver to narrow in the possibilities? > > I never saw this error when I did the same using version 2.1.7. Do I > something wrong ?? Missing something ?? > > - xload won't work as normal user. Happy for me I asked this earlier and > I fixed the problem, but why is this still unsolved ?? > xload is maintained by the XFree86 Project or by the follow on of the X Consortium, not by the FreeBSD project. > - when I try to run the command 'man cp' for example I see this error: > > Formatting page, please wait...Done. > less: not found > Error executing formatting or display command. > system command exited with status 256 Your PAGER environment variable is set to less. You'll have to install this package or change the PAGER environment variable in .profile to `more'. > never saw this error in version 2.1.7. > > - What is the standard directory for apache ?? Version 2.1.7 used the > apache directory /usr/local/www/server/conf. But in version 2.1.7 this > directory isn't used. The directory is now /usr/local/etc/apache/. Why > ?? Which is the standard direcory for apache ?? Standards are changing, but I really don't know why this change is made -- possibly because all non system configuration files should go into /usr/local/etc or a subdir thereof. > - Maybe a stupid question. When I run moused, my mouse under X windows > won't work why ?? Because moused is eating all input from /dev/mouse leaving a hungry X, I guess. > Can anybody help me to solve this problems or give an answer to explain > something ?? > > thanks, You are most welcome. Wolfgang From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 08:23:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA00812 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:23:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kanabec.westlan.com (mail.westpub.com [163.231.237.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA00799 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:23:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from m_admin@localhost) by kanabec.westlan.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) id KAA20942 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:21:04 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: kanabec.westlan.com: m_admin set sender to using -f Received: by westlan.com via smwrap Version 2.3 id smwrapJAw2aa; Mon May 5 10:20:56 1997 Message-Id: <9705051522.AA09921@westlan.com> From: "Vijay Yadlapati" To: Subject: SIOCGARP Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 10:22:20 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am trying to port a network tool to FreeBSD. I am getting a compilation error on SIOCGARP. Is it not supported in FreeBSD?. If it is not, is there any other way to get ethernet address from arp cache. Thanks, Vijay From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 08:42:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA01826 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:42:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan@dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA01804 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:42:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) id KAA19630; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:42:46 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19970505104245.08667@dan.emsphone.com> Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 10:42:45 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Brandon Gillespie Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 'ntpdate' time server References: <19970505002129.62030@dan.emsphone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.67e In-Reply-To: ; from "Brandon Gillespie" on Mon, May 05, 1997 at 09:08:15AM -0600 X-OS: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In the last episode (May 5), Brandon Gillespie said: > Well, I tried that, and it didn't work (even from two boxes on the > same network), so I'm assuming I didn't configure xntpd right. > Basically, I had it configured and running on Box A, on the same > network as Box B (both FreeBSD), but running ntpdate on Box B and > pointing it to Box A just errors out with 'no server suitable for > synchronization found' even though xntpd is running on that box (if > you try and run ntpdate on the box while xntpd is running it whines > about an ntp server already running). I just tested this, and ntpdate will not synch to an xntpd that was just started (i.e. one that has not synchronized itself yet). Run "ntpq -c peers box-a". If none of the servers has a "*" next to it, xntpd doesn't trust any of its servers yet. It takes about 5 minutes for xntpd to pick a server to synch to. If xntpd on box-a is running and is synched to another server, then you should look at the connection between box-a and box-b. Try running (on box-b) "ntpdate -d box-a" and see if packets are being exchanged. -Dan Nelson dnelson@emsphone.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 08:45:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA02111 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:45:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from plains.nodak.edu (tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu [134.129.111.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA02106 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by plains.nodak.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA28059; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:45:17 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 10:45:17 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <199705051545.KAA28059@plains.nodak.edu> To: shovey@buffnet.net Subject: Re: java compiler Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Mon, 5 May 1997, Mark Tinguely wrote: > > > > Is there a java compiler for freebsd? Im not having much luck finding > > > anything but one for win95. > > > > there is kaffe in the ports files and also a port of JDK 1.02 at: > > > > freefall.FreeBSD.org:/pub/FreeBSD/LOCAL_PORTS/jdk10.tar.gz > > Freefall wont allow an anonymous login - it says 'failed to set guest > privies'. my apology, I think there were some host changes since I tried it last. Instead, use: ftp://freebsd.org:/pub/FreeBSD/LOCAL_PORTS/jdk10.tar.gz --mark. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 08:54:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA02545 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:54:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omni.norilsk.ru (infoce-2-ll.ll4.relcom.ru [193.124.250.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA02449 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:53:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from matrix.omni.norilsk.ru by omni.norilsk.ru with ESMTP id XAA19200; (8.6.11/vak/1.9) Mon, 5 May 1997 23:49:54 -0700 Message-Id: <199705060649.XAA19200@omni.norilsk.ru> From: "Artem Koutchine" To: Subject: Kernel suspects partitioning / Cannnot get canonical name Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 23:49:29 +0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello! When i do "route monitor" i get the following message for every output record. EVERY! What does it mean ? is it good or bad ? How can i get rid of it ? Why is it ? RTM_LOSING: Kernel Suspects Partitioning: len 124, pid: 0, seq 0, errno 0, flags : locks: inits: sockaddrs: relay.krasnet.ru infoce-1-ll.ll4.relcom.ru -------------------------- The other problem is with popper. In the beginning of every session it says" Cannot get canonical name for user". Why can't it ? How can i make it get that name ? Where does it take that name ? ------------------- I've been thinking about docs on Free BSD and all of them have the same problem. NO LIST OF ERRORS and HOW TO GET RID OF THEM! That would be a really nice addition for the system itself and the ports, if you know what i mean. Thank you very much Artem Koutchine PS: No, i am not trying to flood @freebsd.org, it's just that i have too many Q's.! From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 09:48:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA05239 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:48:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA05231 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:48:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-130 [207.14.72.130]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA13563 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:46:01 -0800 Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 08:39:16 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: freebsd-questions Subject: X fonts Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ok - i narrowed things down to this ... i can use any font of type NxN, where N=number. but nothing else. 6x13B, 8x13rk, etc, won't work. i just end up with the default font in those cases. my "fonts.dir" files appear to be ok, they contain all the fonts in each respective font directory. any ideas anyone? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 09:53:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA05565 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:53:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de [141.31.166.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA05560 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:53:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from helbig@localhost) by helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA21078; Mon, 5 May 1997 18:41:00 +0200 (MET DST) From: Wolfgang Helbig Message-Id: <199705051641.SAA21078@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Subject: Re: PCI IDE CMD640 ? In-Reply-To: from Nadav Eiron at "May 5, 97 05:59:25 pm" To: nadav@barcode.co.il (Nadav Eiron) Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 18:41:00 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: bazilio@economic.acnit.ac.ru, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL30 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > On Mon, 5 May 1997, Vasily V. Grechishnikov wrote: > > > Hi ! > > I have P5 motherboard with onboard PCI IDE controller. And I have 2.2R. > > I compiled kernel with option CMD640. How I can see wdc0 works as PCI IDE > > or no ? > > It seems that you *don't* have a CMD640b. Don't use CMD640 then. It just > slows down your machine (does not allow concurrent I/O on both channels). Sorry Nadav, but this is not true anymore. (It was for the 2.1.5 version you were using) If you enable the option CMD640 the pci- system is used to detect the presence of this chip and only if it detected it, the diskdriver serializes access to primary and secondary IDE channels. If you do not have this chip the driver does not slow down disk access even with option CMD640 set. That's why it's set in the current GENERIC kernel by default. Here are dmesg lines that you get with option CMD640 set *and* chip detected (because I am still using it on both channels): Copyright (c) 1992-1997 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Fri May 2 21:37:49 MET DST 1997 helbig@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de:/usr/sys.bisdn/compile/RVC1 CPU: i486DX (486-class CPU) real memory = 25165824 (24576K bytes) avail memory = 22777856 (22244K bytes) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: vga0 rev 0 int a irq ?? on pci0:14:0 wdc0 rev 2 int a irq 14 on pci0:15:0 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [...] fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: CMD640B workaround enabled ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 812MB (1664208 sectors), 1651 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, intr, iordis wcd0: 689Kb/sec, 128Kb cache, audio play, 255 volume levels, ejectable tray wcd0: no disc inside, unlocked wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): wd2: 1221MB (2501856 sectors), 2482 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S tel0 at 0xd80 irq 9 on isa [...] This option is documented in LINT and in the FAQ. Wolfgang From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 10:00:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA05966 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cerberus.partsnow.com (gatekeeper.partsnow.com [207.155.26.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA05917 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:59:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bin@localhost) by cerberus.partsnow.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) id JAA20715; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:58:57 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: cerberus.partsnow.com: bin set sender to using -f Received: from nouvelle(192.168.100.9) by cerberus.partsnow.com via smap (V2.0) id xma020713; Mon, 5 May 97 09:58:49 -0700 Message-ID: <336E11F5.4EE5@PartsNow.com> Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 09:59:33 -0700 From: Don Wilde Organization: Soligen, Incorporated X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01E-NOV-NOV (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: eschell@vdn.com CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Should I? References: <336D082D.1271@vdn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Eric - NS 3.0 works quite well; we use the BSDi version here, although with Linux emulation that will probably be the version which gets supported. To add the the commentary you've already received on this thread, go into the questions archives at freebsd.org and check for a thread on 'Netscape 3.0.1 and Java'. There are some additional environment variables to be set in order to make the Java perk. -- oooOOO O O O o * * * * * * o ___ _________ _________ ________ _________ _________ ___==_ V_=_=_DW ===--- Don Wilde [don@PartsNow.com] [http://www.PartsNow.com ] /oo0000oo-oo--oo-ooo---ooo-ooo---ooo-ooo--ooo-ooo---ooo-ooo---ooo-oo--oo From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 10:02:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA06308 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:02:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.duras.com (jack@mail.duras.com [207.107.140.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06303 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail ([207.107.140.235]) by mail.duras.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA272 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:06:28 -0400 Message-ID: <336E1393.6708@moonlighting.net> Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 13:06:27 -0400 From: Daniel Zborovski Organization: Moonlighting Web Management X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b2 (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Multiple Ip's on one Ethernet X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk When I enter the command to get more than one IP on my ethernet card : ifconfig ed1 alias 207.107.140.243 netmask 255.255.255.224 It comes back with the message: ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File Exists But I still can't ping 207.107.140.243 Thanks alot in advance ------------------------------------------------------------ |Daniel Zborovski | daniel@moonlighting.net | |Network Administartor | | |Moonlighting Web Management | http://www.moonlighting.net | ------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 10:05:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA06529 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:05:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fyeung5 (netific.vip.best.com [205.149.182.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA06523 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:05:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fyeung8.netific.com (fyeung8 [204.238.125.8]) by fyeung5 (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA00558 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 22:14:29 -0700 Received: by fyeung8.netific.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA27335; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:12:49 -0700 Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 10:12:49 -0700 From: fyeung@fyeung8.netific.com (Francis Yeung) Message-Id: <9705051712.AA27335@fyeung8.netific.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: netlog X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, Is there port or package of netlog 1.0.2 for FreeBSD ? TIA. Fran From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 10:05:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA06550 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:05:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06512 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (shovey@buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA16569; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:06:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 13:05:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve To: Mark Tinguely cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: java compiler In-Reply-To: <199705051545.KAA28059@plains.nodak.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 5 May 1997, Mark Tinguely wrote: > > On Mon, 5 May 1997, Mark Tinguely wrote: > > > > > > Is there a java compiler for freebsd? Im not having much luck finding > > > > anything but one for win95. > > > > > > there is kaffe in the ports files and also a port of JDK 1.02 at: > > > > > > freefall.FreeBSD.org:/pub/FreeBSD/LOCAL_PORTS/jdk10.tar.gz > > kaffe is an interpret and just in time native jobber, and the jdk10 is just the libs but not javac compliation - unless I have grabbed the wrong thing. I need to get *.java into *.class From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 10:11:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA07030 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:11:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07013; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:11:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA07956; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:02:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd007952; Mon May 5 17:02:09 1997 Message-ID: <336E128A.2C67412E@whistle.com> Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 10:02:02 -0700 From: Julian Elischer Organization: Whistle Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gavin Cameron CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone using a CONNER CTT8000-S tape drive References: <199705050155.LAA15414@gateway.ormond.unimelb.edu.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Gavin Cameron wrote: > /var/log/messages > st0(ahc0:4:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 Invalid field in CDB > st0(ahc0:4:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 Invalid field in CDB > st0(ahc0:4:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 Invalid field in CDB > st0(ahc0:4:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 Invalid field in CDB > st0: bad request, must be between 0 and 0 > st0(ahc0:4:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 Invalid field in CDB > The drive doesn't like one of hte fields in a copmmand we are sending it.. you need to compile ht e kernel with SCSIDEBUG and then use scsi -d 7 -f /dev/st0.ctl to turn switch it on on that device. then try again you should see what commands to the drive are causing this. you could post the results (visible in dmesg) to freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org if you need help on this. there might also be a 'quirk' for a related drive that already fixes this.. theck the 'quirks' table for CONNOR tabe drive entries. (in scsiconf.c from memory) From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 10:36:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA08340 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:36:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cliff.bms.com (cliff.bms.com [140.176.1.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08335 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MetcalfJ (Metcalfj.wfd.pri.bms.com) by cliff.bms.com (PMDF V5.1-7 #22413) with SMTP id <01IIIGFDF4PC005XCV@cliff.bms.com> for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:36:00 EST Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 13:36:31 -0400 From: "Jeffrey M. Metcalf" Subject: Q: Any compiled lists of "Known Issues" with FreeBSD-2.2.1? To: FreeBSD Questions Message-id: <336E1A9F.17B5@synapse.bms.com> Organization: Bristol-Myers Squibb MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, There has been much talk about some bugs in the 2.2.1-RELEASE. Is there a list of known issues for the release that is kept up to date as new problems are found? I haven't run into any problems yet with the CDROM release, but I would like to see if any of the known issues affect me. Thank You, JM -- Respond to: metcalfj@synapse.bms.com or: metcalf@snet.net http://ruddles.stat.uconn.edu/~jeff From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 11:25:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA10430 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 11:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from plains.nodak.edu (tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu [134.129.111.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10425 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 11:25:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by plains.nodak.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA19708; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:25:28 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 13:25:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <199705051825.NAA19708@plains.nodak.edu> To: shovey@buffnet.net Subject: Re: java compiler Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > kaffe is an interpret and just in time native jobber, and the jdk10 is > just the libs but not javac compliation - unless I have grabbed the wrong > thing. I need to get *.java into *.class the jdk in the ports is simply the *.java and *.class, but ftp://freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/LOCAL_PORTS/jdk102.11-26.tar.gz (at least a couple months ago, this package was also found at: ftp://narcissus.ml.org/incoming/jdk102.11-26.tar.gz ). [the README file says it all: This port contains the java interpreter, compiler, and appletviewer. This is a completely unsupported distribution. ]. --mark. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 12:03:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA12452 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 12:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12346 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 12:01:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (shovey@buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA17761; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:00:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 15:00:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve To: Mark Tinguely cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: java compiler In-Reply-To: <199705051825.NAA19708@plains.nodak.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thanx - I was being brain dead. Just a note - it was compiled on a 3.0, but can run on 2.1.5 if you copy libc.so.2.2 to libc.so.3.0 (I couldnt gfind a real libc.so.3.0) > > the jdk in the ports is simply the *.java and *.class, but > > ftp://freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/LOCAL_PORTS/jdk102.11-26.tar.gz > > (at least a couple months ago, this package was also found at: > > ftp://narcissus.ml.org/incoming/jdk102.11-26.tar.gz > ). > > [the README file says it all: > > This port contains the java interpreter, compiler, and appletviewer. > This is a completely unsupported distribution. > > ]. > > --mark. > From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 12:09:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA12895 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 12:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lsmarso.dialup.access.net (lsmarso.dialup.access.net [166.84.254.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12889 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 12:09:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lsmarso@localhost) by lsmarso.dialup.access.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA01438 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:08:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970505150757.13821@panix.com> Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 15:07:57 -0400 From: "Larry S. Marso" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: screen trembling -- please repost/email copy Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sounds like a problem I'm having, but I accidently erased the posting. Would appreciate a copy. -- Larry S. Marso lsmarso@panix.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 12:18:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA13424 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 12:18:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell.super-highway.net (root@shell.super-highway.net [206.98.8.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13419 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 12:18:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zero.super-highway.net (zero.super-highway.net [206.98.8.230]) by shell.super-highway.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA07127 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 14:02:34 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970505142049.006d552c@super-highway.net> X-Sender: govil@super-highway.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 Demo (32) Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 14:20:50 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Lord Govil Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I seem to have killed my system.... one day, out of the blue (as far as I can tell, I don't think I changed anything critical) my computer started to slow down to a crawl.... I then noticed that the httpd was running about 100 times when I typed 'ps -ax'. On the console, everything was fine, but from the outside is was very slow, even from another computer on the same local network. Then before the weekend, it decided to completly hang up, & now when anything connects to it, it just sits there, no login prompt, or webpage. & the console is acting Very strange in that after it gets pas the error saying that '/ was not dismounted properly' the screen will freeze, but it continues to boot the rest of the way to the prompt. I just can't see it. If after it finishes booting (checked by trying to telnet in, & it just sits instead of refusing the connection) I switch V-consoles with alt-2... ect, & switch back, I can see what I typed. But to see what I type again, I have to switch over then back. & if I try switching v-consoles while it's booting it locks up while puting out one long endless beep. & last, I can't shut it down properly, it will just lock up when I type reboot, fastboot, shutsown, ect... & if I hit anything it gives me the NeverEnding Beep. I'm about to just reinstall everything if I can get my user dirs & important data backed up first. Or is there anything I can do, without restarting from scratch? Thanks in advance. Govil -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 4.5 mQENAjNhOZcAAAEIALwlA/P8o74LgQaYzSekr2MEhasf4am64IvUfiD6Gg5OHUGN pIYtleDN6wjv3smrNRD9HY1965XxULem8FFL1saRgNaFKQ08ZR3lxrd8lx8qg/wA L7U7tGxfRZOnVs374WW7LJOJb1yFmCS8pqTCF/12lBJ2MQPkYr6VOpqFzO7iwKGB 6vRHAUdP5l3xugjHGrNZMoKoyuXF3No67C6fVL+Jdugi6WOozeLsYcgL0p8JAiG6 HYk3InnUXbuWwwy/FblH5oNdVWkY9DDOCf6+ZJXDy1TcwtSigZXzf2UJFC2LAwJs J2LQ5J0iiRMmNF8AU75ZUe3bFJrvIGZOtkafD00ABRG0BWdvdmls =lLmj -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 12:27:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA13886 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 12:27:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13877 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 12:27:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA06951; Mon, 5 May 1997 12:27:46 -0700 (PDT) To: Wolfgang Helbig cc: wouter.de.boer@pobox.com (Wouter de Boer), freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.1 Installation -> problems In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 05 May 1997 17:17:07 +0200." <199705051517.RAA20766@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 12:27:46 -0700 Message-ID: <6949.862860466@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > - Maybe a stupid question. When I run moused, my mouse under X windows > > won't work why ?? > > Because moused is eating all input from /dev/mouse leaving a hungry > X, I guess. No, because when you run moused all mouse I/O goes to /dev/sysmouse, which emulates a MouseSystems mouse. Jordan From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 13:23:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA17072 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:23:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.DPCSYS.com [209.25.4.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17052 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:23:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id UAA06234; Mon, 5 May 1997 20:22:57 GMT Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 13:22:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: Daniel Keller cc: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Re: setting up a network In-Reply-To: <199705050513.WAA25632@psln1.psln.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 4 May 1997, Daniel Keller wrote: > where are some good resources for getting started with networking? I > currently have 2 computers with SMC EtherEZ cards, one of the computers is > running FreeBSD 2.2.1, the other is running FreeBSD 2.1.5. I want to Depends on how much you want to know. If all you need to do is connect the two PCs /etc/sysconfig might have all you need in the comments. For the IP addresses use some from the reserved blocks, 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.2 would be fine choices. E.g. network_interfaces="ed0 lo0" ifconfig_ed0="inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 0xffffff00" ifconfig_lo0="inet localhost" Change ed0 to the appropriate ethernet interface for your system. The system you have PPP on already has two of these lines, just add the ed0 (whatever) line. That'll get the 2 PC's talking to each other. If you want to forward packets from the PPP connection on one to the other set gateway="YES" on the PC with the PPP connection. Look in the handbook under "Advanced Networking" , don't let the name scare you, for more info on gateways and routing. The defaults should get you running though. If you want to understand what is going on, a good introductory to intermediate text is TCP/IP Network Administration from O'Reilly. For programming you'll want UNIX Network Programming by W. Richard Stevens, Prentice Hall. Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 13:27:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA17535 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.DPCSYS.com [209.25.4.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17495 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:27:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id UAA06249; Mon, 5 May 1997 20:27:09 GMT Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 13:27:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: Daniel Zborovski cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: running a program on startup In-Reply-To: <336D7CE2.70F8@moonlighting.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 5 May 1997, Daniel Zborovski wrote: > Is there a way to run a program on startup. As it is now everytime I > want to start my apache server I need to type: > > /usr/local/apache_1.1.1/src/httpd -f > /usr/local/apache_1.1.1/conf/http.conf For 2.1.5R and up, create the directory /usr/local/etc/rc.d When the system boots it looks for files with a .sh extension in this directory and executes them. So you want to create a file named /usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache.sh containing #!/bin/sh /usr/local/apache_1.1.1/src/httpd -f /usr/local/apache_1.1.1/conf/http.conf Chmod +x it and you are all set. Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 13:29:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA17627 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.knowplace.com (poseidon14.carroll.com [199.224.10.167]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17618 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jc.carroll.com [204.141.202.65] by mail.knowplace.com with SMTP (8.8.5/0) id QAA12525; Mon, 5 May 1997 16:28:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970505162952.006c8358@knowplace.com> X-Sender: franky@knowplace.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 16:29:52 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Jim C." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk subscribe From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 14:01:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA19687 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 14:01:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [207.141.254.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA19670; Mon, 5 May 1997 14:01:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA14674; Mon, 5 May 1997 16:00:56 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19970505160056.57385@shell.futuresouth.com> Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 16:00:56 -0500 From: Tim Tsai To: questions@freebsd.org Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B Group buy? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am getting 10 of Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100 Model B PCI ethernet cards. The problem is that I can get 2 5PK's for $354.44 each, or I can get a 20PK for $1087.62. Is anybody interested in buying the other 10 at cost? Anybody know of a better price? Thanks, Tim FSCI From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 14:17:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA20884 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 14:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from speedbump.datapark.com (ns1.datapark.com [207.102.240.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA20877 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 14:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from k2 (k2.datapark.com [207.102.240.32]) by speedbump.datapark.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA01400; Mon, 5 May 1997 14:18:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <336E4E48.BEC@datapark.com> Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 14:16:56 -0700 From: Jeff Newton Organization: Tantalus Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG CC: Daniel Zborovski Subject: Re: running a program on startup References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dan Busarow wrote: > > On Mon, 5 May 1997, Daniel Zborovski wrote: > > Is there a way to run a program on startup. As it is now everytime I > > want to start my apache server I need to type: > > > > /usr/local/apache_1.1.1/src/httpd -f > > /usr/local/apache_1.1.1/conf/http.conf > > For 2.1.5R and up, create the directory > > /usr/local/etc/rc.d > > When the system boots it looks for files with a .sh extension > in this directory and executes them. So you want to create > a file named /usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache.sh containing > > #!/bin/sh > /usr/local/apache_1.1.1/src/httpd -f /usr/local/apache_1.1.1/conf/http.conf > > Chmod +x it and you are all set. > Or simply add /usr/local/apache_1.1.1/src/httpd -f to /etc/rc.local Creating a /usr/local/etc/rc.d directory and seperate scripts is perhaps a little cleaner (sys V style) but I find /etc/rc.local just as managable. Cheers, -- Jeff Newton Network Administrator Tantalus Communications Datapark Advanced Communications (604) 664-7454 ----------------- "It's the world, not a call I can screen out"- Headstones From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 14:48:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA22980 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 14:48:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kremvax.demos.su (kremvax.demos.su [194.87.0.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA22966 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 14:48:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by kremvax.demos.su (8.6.13/D) from root@localhost for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org id BAA12174; Tue, 6 May 1997 01:47:45 +0400 Received: from ozz by techsz.msk.ru with ESMTP id BAA04005; (8.6.12/vak/1.9) Tue, 6 May 1997 01:37:01 +0400 Message-Id: <199705052137.BAA04005@techsz.msk.ru> Reply-To: From: "Ozz" To: "FreeBSD Questions" Subject: Jet Direct problem... Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 01:37:42 +0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello! I have a problem with network printing... My printer ( HP LJ 4V with Jet Direct Card IP: 192.91.186.111 ) My FreeBSD 2.1 IP address: 192.91.186.152 How I may printing from FreeBSD?? Rgds, Ozz, osa@techsz.msk.ru Close you m$-WINDOWS - Open the DOOR to Open Systems From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 15:22:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA24422 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:22:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from norquay.cal.shaw.wave.ca (norquay.cal.shaw.wave.ca [24.64.1.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA24416 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:22:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cal.shaw.wave.ca ([24.64.4.142]) by norquay.cal.shaw.wave.ca (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA5495 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 16:21:06 -0600 Subject: New Message From: "Oakie" TO: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Color: 16777215 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 16:21:06 -0600 Message-ID: <19970505222106.AAA5495@mail.cal.shaw.wave.ca> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there. I was wondering if FreeBSD could be installed and Ran on a AViiON 4100 Workstation! -Thanks -Trevor Oakenfold Toakenfold@shaw.wave.ca From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 15:31:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA24713 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:31:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from miro.bestweb.net (miro.bestweb.net [208.197.0.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA24708 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:31:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [208.197.0.27] (vermeer.bestweb.net [208.197.0.27]) by miro.bestweb.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA23365 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 18:29:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: jordyn@pop.bestweb.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 18:28:44 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: "Jordyn A. Buchanan" Subject: DNS strangeness Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk We're having a problem sending mail to a particular domain (pcnet-inc.com) because sendmail is telling us that their mail exchanger is not a known host. However, note the following results on the machine that's trying to sendmail. miro: {78} nslookup -type=mx pcnet-inc.com Server: miro.bestweb.net Address: 208.197.0.15 Non-authoritative answer: pcnet-inc.com preference = 0, mail exchanger = viewtek_comm1.pcnet-inc.com Authoritative answers can be found from: pcnet-inc.com nameserver = NS.MCI.NET pcnet-inc.com nameserver = GABRIEL.pcnet-inc.com viewtek_comm1.pcnet-inc.com internet address = 206.98.180.168 NS.MCI.NET internet address = 204.70.128.1 GABRIEL.pcnet-inc.com internet address = 206.98.180.132 miro: {79} nslookup viewtek_comm1.pcnet-inc.com Server: miro.bestweb.net Address: 208.197.0.15 Non-authoritative answer: Name: viewtek_comm1.pcnet-inc.com Address: 206.98.180.168 miro: {80} ping viewtek_comm1.pcnet-inc.com ping: unknown host viewtek_comm1.pcnet-inc.com miro: {81} uname -a FreeBSD miro.bestweb.net 3.0-970209-SNAP FreeBSD 3.0-970209-SNAP #0: Sun Apr 13 13:59:59 EDT 1997 jordyn@backup.bestweb.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/MIRO i386 miro: {82} Anyone have thoughts on this one? I'm a bit baffled... Jordyn |----------------------------------------------------------------| |Jordyn A. Buchanan mailto:jordyn@bestweb.net | |Bestweb Corporation http://www.bestweb.net | |Senior System Administrator +1.914.271.4500 | |----------------------------------------------------------------| From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 15:38:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA24991 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:38:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from synthcom.com (root@beacon.synthcom.com [198.145.98.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA24986 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:37:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beacon.synthcom.com (neil@beacon.synthcom.com [198.145.98.1]) by synthcom.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA26644 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 14:36:31 GMT Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 14:36:31 +0000 () From: Neil Bradley To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: 2.1.5->2.2.1? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk What do I gain by upgrading from 2.1.5 to 2.2.1? I'm considering it *VERY* seriously, and wondered what other people's opinions are in regards to this. ;-) Thanks! -->Neil ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neil Bradley Synthcom home : http://www.synthcom.com Synthcom Systems, Inc. Used gear P.L.: http://www.synthcom.com/cgi-bin/gear From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 15:38:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA25019 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.cdrom.com [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA25013 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:38:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from suprahwy.supra.com (suprahwy.supra.com [205.229.114.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16309 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:37:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by suprahwy.supra.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA20962 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:38:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dogbert.supra.com(10.10.0.21) by suprahwy.supra.com via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma020958; Mon May 5 15:37:34 1997 Received: from vanmail.supra.com by dogbert.supra.com id aa09007; 5 May 97 15:37 PDT Received: by vanmail.supra.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5) id <01BC596A.B28ECE00@supra.com>; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:40:45 -0700 Message-ID: From: Gary Cook To: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.com'" Subject: Plug and Play modems and Freebsd Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 15:40:43 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 Encoding: 12 TEXT Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, My name is Gary. I work with Diamond Multimedia in the Supra modem dept. I support other operating systems including Linux and Unix. I would like to know if there are any plug and play utilities, like ISAPNPTOOLS from red hat for Linux, that will allow the function of a plug and play modem under Freebsd. Like a driver that will assign the plug and play device resources, IRQ and COM so Freebsd will recognize the modem. Any information would be very much appreciated on the subject. Thank you for your time, Gary From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 15:41:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA25302 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:41:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from psln1.psln.com (psln.com [206.99.118.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA25296 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:41:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from g6-200 by psln1.psln.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/951211.SGI.AUTO) id PAA10150; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:38:47 -0700 Message-Id: <199705052238.PAA10150@psln1.psln.com> From: "Daniel Keller" To: "FreeBSD Questions List" , "Adam L. Simpson" Subject: Re: Problems connecting to the internet SOLVED Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 16:08:45 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi. The problem was that I had the firewall options compiled in my kernel. I removed them and now all is working fine. Thanks everybody who helped! Daniel Keller ---------- > From: Adam L. Simpson > To: Daniel Keller > Subject: Re: Problems connecting to the internet > Date: Monday, May 05, 1997 12:09 AM > > Hi Dan: > > were you able to get your connection working? I think I am having the same > problem.. Appreciate any help you may be able to provide as I am lost now.. > > Adam > > > > At 10:30 PM 5/4/97 -0700, you wrote: > >Hi, > >First: I solved my problem with my modem not responding in cu and term, the > >modem was on COM2 I had sio0 set to the COM2 address. > >I recompiled the kernel with sio0 at the COM1 address and sio1 at the COM2 > >address and set ppp.conf to /dev/cuaa1. This fixed the problem. I still > >don't know why when it was set up the other way the modem accepted my > >commands but I couldn't see the responses. > > > >Now my new problem: I have all my files set up as is described in the > >handbook. I can tell ppp to dial, it dials and connects and logs in fine. > >Then I switch to another terminal and try ping. If I try "ping localhost" I > >get: > > > >Ping: send to: Permission denied > >Ping: wrote localhost 64 chars, ret=-1 > > > >I have also tried "ping 206.155.61.100" (the address of my ISP) and as > >root, always with the same result. If I try "ping psln.com" (my ISP) > >I get a host not found error. Does anybody have any idea what the problem > >might be? > >Thanks, > >Daniel Keller > > > > > > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 16:00:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA26144 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 16:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blinx.lizard.org (blinx.wms.co.uk [194.159.247.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26139 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 16:00:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from flipper@localhost) by blinx.lizard.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) id AAA14129 for questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 6 May 1997 00:02:50 +0100 (BST) From: Alexander Flipp Message-Id: <199705052302.AAA14129@blinx.lizard.org> Subject: CVsup To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 00:02:50 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk anyone out there willing to help me out with CVsup? Regards F. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 16:02:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA26251 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 16:02:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cube.i-pi.com (cube.i-pi.com [198.49.217.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA26243 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 16:02:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ingham@localhost) by cube.i-pi.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA16000; Mon, 5 May 1997 17:01:53 -0600 Message-Id: <199705052301.RAA16000@cube.i-pi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: Kenneth Ingham Date: Mon, 5 May 97 17:01:51 -0600 To: "Jordyn A. Buchanan" Subject: Re: DNS strangeness cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Are you aware that _ is not a legal character in domain names? Recent versions of named claim to be enforcing this. Kenneth From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 16:06:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA26505 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 16:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsd.fs.bauing.th-darmstadt.de (bsd.fs.bauing.th-darmstadt.de [130.83.63.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26500 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 16:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from campa.panke.de (anonymous227.ppp.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.227]) by bsd.fs.bauing.th-darmstadt.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA23941; Tue, 6 May 1997 01:06:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by campa.panke.de (8.8.5/8.6.12) id AAA00875; Tue, 6 May 1997 00:45:31 +0200 (MET DST) To: Zahemszky Gabor Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD questions) Subject: Re: test -f $shvar References: <199705050827.KAA00520@CoDe.hu> From: Wolfram Schneider Date: 06 May 1997 00:45:28 +0200 In-Reply-To: Zahemszky Gabor's message of Mon, 5 May 1997 10:27:06 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: Lines: 20 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Zahemszky Gabor writes: > > The programmer must check if the variable `shvar' is > > not empty. E.g.: > > > > test -n "$shvar" -a -f "$shvar" > > I don't know, why isn't it enough: This was a paranoid example. > test -f "$shvar" This should work too. > if the shvar is empty, the test is -f "", but (as I know) I cannot have a > file with null-length name, so it will be false. -- Wolfram Schneider http://www.apfel.de/~wosch/ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 16:11:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA26831 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 16:11:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.DPCSYS.com [209.25.4.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26826 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 16:11:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id XAA07336; Mon, 5 May 1997 23:10:26 GMT Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 16:10:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: "Jordyn A. Buchanan" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DNS strangeness In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 5 May 1997, Jordyn A. Buchanan wrote: > miro: {80} ping viewtek_comm1.pcnet-inc.com > ping: unknown host viewtek_comm1.pcnet-inc.com viewtek_comm1 is an illegal hostname. Underscores are not allowed. The resolver is enforcing this. Send mail to postmaster@[206.98.180.168] suggesting they fix it. Or you could use a 2.1.x machine to mail them. 2.2 can't see them either. Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 16:30:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA27544 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 16:30:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tok.qiv.com ([204.214.141.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA27539 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 16:30:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tok.qiv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with UUCP id SAA01617 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 5 May 1997 18:30:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (jdn@localhost) by acp.qiv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA03936 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 18:21:33 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: acp.qiv.com: jdn owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 18:21:32 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jay D. Nelson" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: running a program on startup In-Reply-To: <336E4E48.BEC@datapark.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I use rc.local, even on SYSV machines -- I guess because I'm too old or stubborn to change. I like it. But now, everyone says it's deprecated. Does anyone know why? -- Jay On Mon, 5 May 1997, Jeff Newton wrote: ->Dan Busarow wrote: ->> ->> On Mon, 5 May 1997, Daniel Zborovski wrote: ->> > Is there a way to run a program on startup. As it is now everytime I ->> > want to start my apache server I need to type: ->> > ->> > /usr/local/apache_1.1.1/src/httpd -f ->> > /usr/local/apache_1.1.1/conf/http.conf ->> ->> For 2.1.5R and up, create the directory ->> ->> /usr/local/etc/rc.d ->> ->> When the system boots it looks for files with a .sh extension ->> in this directory and executes them. So you want to create ->> a file named /usr/local/etc/rc.d/apache.sh containing ->> ->> #!/bin/sh ->> /usr/local/apache_1.1.1/src/httpd -f /usr/local/apache_1.1.1/conf/http.conf ->> ->> Chmod +x it and you are all set. ->> -> ->Or simply add /usr/local/apache_1.1.1/src/httpd -f to /etc/rc.local -> ->Creating a /usr/local/etc/rc.d directory and seperate scripts is perhaps ->a little cleaner (sys V style) but I find /etc/rc.local just as ->managable. -> ->Cheers, -> ->-- ->Jeff Newton ->Network Administrator ->Tantalus Communications ->Datapark Advanced Communications ->(604) 664-7454 ->----------------- ->"It's the world, not a call I can screen out"- Headstones -> From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 16:33:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA27690 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 16:33:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from valhalla.stormking.com (root@valhalla.stormking.com [204.141.98.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA27684 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 16:33:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tucslap.UUCP (root@localhost) by valhalla.stormking.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id TAA21218 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:33:36 -0400 Received: (from tuc@localhost) by tucslap.stormking.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id TAA00105 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:27:13 -0400 From: "Scott J. Ellentuch" Message-Id: <199705052327.TAA00105@tucslap.stormking.com> Subject: Dell or IBM Laptop To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 19:27:12 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: tuc@stormking.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have a choice for a new laptop between a Dell (Latitude XPi 133ST) and IBM (760EL P133). I checked out the PCMCIA and really don't have a problem with that. What I would like to know : 1) Has anyone heard anything good/bad about either. 2) The Dell uses either a Cirrus CLGD7543 or Neomagic NM2070 video chip. Is this supported? What type of resolution can I expect? 3) The IBM uses a Trident CYBER9320 or CYBER9385. Is this supported? What type of resolution can I expect? Thanks for your time, and hopefully I'll be loading one of them up soon! Tuc/TTSG -- Scott J. Ellentuch, The Telecom Security Group/TTSG, Newburgh, NY Visit our Web Site at http://www.ttsg.com/ "Over the UUCP link, out the ethernet, through the media converter, down the fiber, off a router, down the 56K, past my ISP...nothing but Net" - with poetic license from Dave Owen of IBM From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 16:58:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA28853 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 16:58:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mother.cdrom.com (mother.cdrom.com [204.216.28.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA28839 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 16:58:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (support@localhost) by mother.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA23759 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 16:56:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: mother.cdrom.com: support owned process doing -bs Delivery-Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 06:43:43 -0700 X-Received: from pooh.cdrom.com (pooh.cdrom.com [204.216.28.222]) by mother.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA11081 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 06:43:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: from easynet.fr ([195.114.64.207]) by pooh.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA10407 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 06:43:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: (qmail 29597 invoked from network); 2 May 1997 14:10:13 -0000 X-Received: from max1-paris-35.easynet.fr (HELO EasyH?te.easynet.fr) (195.114.92.35) by mail.easynet.fr with SMTP; 2 May 1997 14:10:13 -0000 Message-ID: <3369EF06.52E6@easynet.fr> Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 15:41:26 +0200 From: Gil PEREZ X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@cdrom.com Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ReSent-Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 16:56:30 -0700 (PDT) ReSent-From: "Christopher G. Mann" ReSent-To: questions@freebsd.org ReSent-Message-ID: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear Sir, I would like to install FreeBSD on my computer. But before to do that, i would like to know if my computer is compatible with the new version of FreeBSD especially to install X Windows. My computer have the video card : ATI 3D RAGE II. Can i run do that ? Thank you very much. Gil PEREZ. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 16:59:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA28931 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 16:59:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mother.cdrom.com (mother.cdrom.com [204.216.28.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA28926 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 16:59:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (support@localhost) by mother.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA23777 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 16:57:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: mother.cdrom.com: support owned process doing -bs Delivery-Date: Thu, 01 May 1997 14:06:12 -0700 X-Received: from pooh.cdrom.com (pooh.cdrom.com [204.216.28.222]) by mother.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA08288 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 14:06:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: from localhost (orders@localhost) by pooh.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA05319 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 14:06:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: from cs.sunysb.edu (sbcs.sunysb.edu [130.245.1.15]) by pooh.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA01397 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 07:21:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: from sbgrad11.csdept (sbgrad11.cs.sunysb.edu [130.245.2.20]) by cs.sunysb.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA14977 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 10:32:48 -0400 From: Yi-feng Li Message-Id: <199705011432.KAA14977@cs.sunysb.edu> Subject: files can't be found in the CD-ROM To: orders@cdrom.com Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 10:19:32 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ReSent-Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 14:06:20 -0700 (PDT) X-ReSent-From: Email Orders X-ReSent-To: "support@cdrom.com" X-ReSent-Message-ID: ReSent-Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 16:57:24 -0700 (PDT) ReSent-From: "Christopher G. Mann" ReSent-To: questions@freebsd.org ReSent-Message-ID: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I bought the Free-BSD2.2.1 CD-ROM few mouths ago and recently try to install x-emacs. However, after I install it from CD-ROM and try to execute, there is a message show up " libXm.?.? not found ". I want to know where I can get this library file or can you e-mail it to me? My e-mail address: yifeng@cs.sunysb.edu Thanks!! Yi-Feng Li From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 17:02:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA29170 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 17:02:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from deathstar.comnet.ca (tomqnx@deathstar.comnet.ca [205.206.213.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA29160 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 17:02:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tomqnx.UUCP (tomqnx@localhost) by deathstar.comnet.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id UAA28420 for freebsd.org!freebsd-questions; Mon, 5 May 1997 20:02:46 -0400 Received: by TomQNX.tomqnx.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0wOWvX-0008LdC; Mon, 5 May 97 19:12 EDT Message-Id: From: tom@tomqnx.com (Tom Torrance at home) Subject: Can't boot 2.2R To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 19:12:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am running a Dell 433DE with a DX2/66 processor and an Adaptec 2740A, which has one disk drive and one HP6020ES on it, plus one IDE controller with one disk drive. Everytime I try to boot from the boot.flp diskette, I remove the trash, etc. and let it start the probing process. Every time, this ends with: ahc0: brkadrint, Illegal Host Access at seqaddr = 0x0 Am I doing something really stupid? The same process works fine with the 2.1.5 release. I downloaded the RELENG boot.flp, it has the same problem. Please advise me!?!? Regards, Tom PS. I am not subscribed to freebsd-questions. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 17:17:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA29883 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 17:17:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chmls01.highway1.com (ne.highway1.com [24.128.1.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA29878 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 17:17:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SJBSERVER ([24.128.49.117]) by chmls01.highway1.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with SMTP id AAA20337 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 20:16:53 -0400 Received: by SJBSERVER with Microsoft Mail id <01BC5991.A37F2500@SJBSERVER>; Mon, 5 May 1997 20:19:30 -0400 Message-ID: <01BC5991.A37F2500@SJBSERVER> From: sbelforti@highway1.com (Steve Belforti) To: "'BSD Quetions'" Subject: FW: Installation panic with Adaptec Controller Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 20:19:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -----Original Message----- From: Steve Belforti [SMTP:sbelforti@highway1.com] Sent: Sunday, May 04, 1997 7:31 PM To: 'BSD Quetions' Subject: Installation panic with Adaptec Controller When installing 2.1.5 from CD I get the following error message after the initial device scan halts. Panic: ahc0: brkadrint, illegal host access at seqaddr = 0x0 I noticed this same question in the mailing list archive, but could not find the solution. Any advice greatly appreciated. Sbelforti@highway1.com From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 17:31:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA00730 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 17:31:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from house.key.net.au (root@house.key.net.au [203.35.4.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA00722 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 17:31:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (andrew@localhost) by house.key.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA11885; Tue, 6 May 1997 10:30:50 +1000 (EST) Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 10:30:50 +1000 (EST) From: Andrew To: "Jordyn A. Buchanan" cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DNS strangeness In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 5 May 1997, Jordyn A. Buchanan wrote: > We're having a problem sending mail to a particular domain (pcnet-inc.com) > because sendmail is telling us that their mail exchanger is not a known > host. However, note the following results on the machine that's trying to > Non-authoritative answer: > pcnet-inc.com preference = 0, mail exchanger = viewtek_comm1.pcnet-inc.com AFAIK '_' is an unallowable character in a host name...perhaps that is your problem. You could always try to send mail to @[] and suggest they change their name... Andrew From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 17:33:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA00973 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 17:33:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apolo.biblos.unal.edu.co ([168.176.37.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA00965; Mon, 5 May 1997 17:33:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (yonny@localhost) by apolo.biblos.unal.edu.co (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA01361; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:36:26 -0500 (COT) Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 19:36:26 -0500 (COT) From: Yonny Cardenas To: questions@freebsd.org cc: technical@freebsd.org Subject: Help for gated configuration Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm configured gated (R3_5Beta_3 ) whith two computer. Now I'm configured only rip: router A router B ---------- ---------- | | | | | | | | ip.94 -*------*- ip.17 ip.30 -*------*- ip.110 | | | | | ---------------------------------- | | | | | ---------------- ------------------ where : ---------is a segment ethernet * is a network interface ip. is equal to 130.156.15 ( for example ). I'm using netmask 255.255.255.240 in all. The gated.conf for router B is : rip yes { interface all version 2; }; import proto rip interface 130.156.15.110 { 130.156.0.0 mask 255.255.255.240; }; export proto rip interface 168.176.15.30 { proto rip { 130.156.0.0 mask 255.255.255.240; }; }; And gated.conf for router A is : rip yes { interface all version 2; }; import proto rip interface 130.156.15.94 { 130.156.0.0 mask 255.255.255.240; }; export proto rip interface 130.156.15.17 { proto rip { 130.156.0.0 mask 255.255.255.240; }; }; Whith I started gated in both. It's the routing tables for router B : Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire 127 127.0.0.1 URc 0 0 lo0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 0 lo0 130.156.15.16/28 link#2 UC 0 0 130.156.15.96/28 link#1 UC 0 0 130.156.15.110 0:0:c0:a3:7b:9e UHLW 1 52 lo0 224.0.0.9 127.0.0.1 UH 2 7 lo0 And after the following messages : Apr 30 06:33:33 labred gated[341]: if_rtdown: DOWN route for interface ed0 130.156.15.110/255.255.255.240 Apr 30 06:33:33 labred gated[341]: if_rtdown: DOWN route for interface ed1 130.156.15.30/255.255.255.240 But never routing . Whith "routed -s" the routing is good. Thanks for your help. YONNY CARDENAS B. From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 18:04:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA03198 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 18:04:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seaweed.wni.com (seaweed.wni.com [206.79.21.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA03191 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 18:04:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from raptor.wni.com (raptor [172.18.100.10]) by seaweed.wni.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA18699 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 18:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from loon.wni.com (loon [172.18.100.25]) by raptor.wni.com (8.8.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA07853 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 18:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from loon by loon.wni.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA15835; Mon, 5 May 1997 18:03:48 -0700 Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 18:03:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Branch Reply-To: Michael Branch Subject: dbm libraries To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: /ayu18ykTuKeQVrMha+z2w== Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hi, where do I obtain the libdbm sources so I can compile the libdbm suitable for FreeBSD 2.2? I don't see libdbm.xx anywhere on the filesystem. thanks, Mike ####################################################################### # Michael A. Branch Sr. UNIX Systems Administrator # # weathernews, Inc # # michaelb@wni.com Sunnyvale, CA # # # # "I turn big problems into little problems." # ####################################################################### From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 18:25:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA04119 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 18:25:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from theta.pair.com (theta.pair.com [207.86.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA04111 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 18:25:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adam.netsonic.com (gb_noc44.sparknet.net [207.250.20.44]) by theta.pair.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA15301 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 21:21:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Envelope-To: Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970505203103.0077bb7c@mail.netsonic.com> X-Sender: adam@mail.netsonic.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 20:31:06 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Adam L. Simpson" Subject: PPP dialup probs... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Ok, I can dial into my provider thru term no problem as well as get logged in.. After that if I ping localhost, no prob... If I try to telnet to the box via the dynamic IP assigned or ping somewhere else on the web, I get no route to host... Any clues as to where I may be messed up? Thanks Adam From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 19:41:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA08509 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:41:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kevin.sunshine.net (pme11.sunshine.net [204.191.205.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA08504 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:41:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cagey@localhost) by kevin.sunshine.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA00598; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 19:37:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin Eliuk Reply-To: Kevin Eliuk To: "Adam L. Simpson" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPP dialup probs... In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970505203103.0077bb7c@mail.netsonic.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 5 May 1997, Adam L. Simpson wrote: >Ok, I can dial into my provider thru term no problem as well as get logged >in.. After that if I ping localhost, no prob... If I try to telnet to the >box via the dynamic IP assigned or ping somewhere else on the web, I get no >route to host Do you have host.conf, hosts, resolv.conf configured? What do you get with nslookup? Are you running linux emulation? > ... Any clues as to where I may be messed up? Just clues ... only clues :) _______________________________________ |\ /| If I hadn't asked | \ kevin_eliuk@sunshine.net / | the questions I asked, | \ Kevin G. Eliuk / | I wouldn't be answering | /^\_________________________/^\ | the questions I'm answering. | / \ | |/--===### Powered By FreeBSD 2.2.1 \| | www.freebsd.org | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 20:14:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA10272 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 20:14:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhub.cns.ksu.edu (grunt.ksu.ksu.edu [129.130.12.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA10266 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 20:14:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from RoadRunner.ksu.edu ([129.130.207.157]) by mailhub.cns.ksu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/mailhub+tar@ksu.edu) with SMTP id WAA28956 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 22:14:23 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <336EA244.2CFC@ksu.edu> Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 22:15:16 -0500 From: Jason Linenberger Reply-To: jasonl@ksu.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Kernel ???? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk So how do you load Free-BSD? Despite the information on the WWW there is nothing - at least I can find through all the FAQS and manuals that talks about loading Kernels. I am sitting at the boot prompt with no clue. I look at the FAQS and they tell me how to customize it. Gee that's great - but I can't even get to a login!!! What do I do? Again I am at the Boot: prompt off of my HDD and I don't know how to get the kernel loaded. -Jason jasonl@ksu.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 20:18:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA10457 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 20:18:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from srv1-cas.cas.nutecnet.com.br (srv1-cas.cas.nutecnet.com.br [200.245.23.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA10452 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 20:18:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from klt-1 (dl0142-cas.cas.nutecnet.com.br [200.245.23.142]) by srv1-cas.cas.nutecnet.com.br (8.6.8.1/SCA-6.6) with SMTP id CAA04582 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 02:17:42 GMT Message-ID: <336DF4EE.6702@nutecnet.com.br> Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 11:55:42 -0300 From: Luciano Kolotelo X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Tech info. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have a project to install a gateway between Novell and SunOS 4.1.3 which I am more familiar to. I use NIS and NFS at the Unix side. The question is does Free BSD support both ? Would you recomend Linux instead ? I would like to know if you could help me to decide because I am just about to purchase one of them. Many thanks. Luciano Kolotelo KLT Net ISP e-mail: kolotelo@nutecnet.com.br or e-mail: kolotelo@correionet.com.br From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 21:50:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA14728 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 21:50:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dg-rtp.dg.com (dg-rtp.rtp.dg.com [128.222.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA14723 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 21:50:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by dg-rtp.dg.com (5.4R3.10/dg-rtp-v02) id AA25258; Tue, 6 May 1997 00:50:10 -0400 Received: from ponds by dg-rtp.dg.com.rtp.dg.com; Tue, 6 May 1997 00:50 EDT Received: from lakes.water.net (lakes [10.0.0.3]) by ponds.water.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA16426; Mon, 5 May 1997 20:51:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.water.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id UAA29910; Mon, 5 May 1997 20:58:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 20:58:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199705060058.UAA29910@lakes.water.net> To: ponds!FreeBSD.ORG!freebsd-questions, ponds!panix.com!lsmarso Subject: Re: screen trembling -- please repost/email copy Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Sounds like a problem I'm having, but I accidently erased the posting. > Would appreciate a copy. > -- > Larry S. Marso > lsmarso@panix.com > Depending on what type of trembling your seeing - I found that having my speakers in the case with the monitor (one of my monitors is a NEC M700, with built-in speakers) causes a trembling, or waver, when the volume is load enough... apparently, the speakers aren't as magnetically sealed as one would hope... You may have something close to the monitor that is causing this, a radio, disk drive, CD-ROM playper, etc... - Dave Rivers - From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 22:15:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA15915 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 22:15:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from theta.pair.com (theta.pair.com [207.86.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA15910 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 22:15:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adam.netsonic.com (gb_noc44.sparknet.net [207.250.20.44]) by theta.pair.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA16480 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 01:11:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Envelope-To: Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970506002048.006e6e5c@mail.netsonic.com> X-Sender: adam@mail.netsonic.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 00:20:59 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Adam L. Simpson" Subject: monitoring users Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Maybe this is a dumb question, but is there a way to watch exactly what a user whois connected to your system and see exactly what they are doing? From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 23:08:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA18560 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 23:08:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kevin.sunshine.net (pme50.sunshine.net [204.191.205.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA18545 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 23:08:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cagey@localhost) by kevin.sunshine.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA00221; Mon, 5 May 1997 23:03:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 23:03:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin Eliuk Reply-To: Kevin Eliuk To: Jason Linenberger cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel ???? In-Reply-To: <336EA244.2CFC@ksu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 5 May 1997, Jason Linenberger wrote: >So how do you load Free-BSD? Despite the information on the WWW there is >nothing - at least I can find through all the FAQS and manuals that >talks about loading Kernels. I am sitting at the boot prompt with no >clue. I look at the FAQS and they tell me how to customize it. Gee >that's great - but I can't even get to a login!!! What do I do? Again I >am at the Boot: prompt off of my HDD and I don't know how to get the >kernel loaded. > At the Boot prompt type `?' and let us know what it shows you. ie Boot: ? It should give you a list of files in your / directory. Look for anything that says kernel ... _______________________________________ |\ /| If I hadn't asked | \ kevin_eliuk@sunshine.net / | the questions I asked, | \ Kevin G. Eliuk / | I wouldn't be answering | /^\_________________________/^\ | the questions I'm answering. | / \ | |/--===### Powered By FreeBSD 2.2.1 \| | www.freebsd.org | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 5 23:11:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA18771 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 May 1997 23:11:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kevin.sunshine.net (pme50.sunshine.net [204.191.205.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA18759 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 23:11:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cagey@localhost) by kevin.sunshine.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA00235; Mon, 5 May 1997 23:07:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 23:07:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin Eliuk Reply-To: Kevin Eliuk To: "Adam L. Simpson" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: monitoring users In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970506002048.006e6e5c@mail.netsonic.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 6 May 1997, Adam L. Simpson wrote: >Maybe this is a dumb question, but is there a way to watch exactly what a >user whois connected to your system and see exactly what they are doing? > > > $ w _______________________________________ |\ /| If I hadn't asked | \ kevin_eliuk@sunshine.net / | the questions I asked, | \ Kevin G. Eliuk / | I wouldn't be answering | /^\_________________________/^\ | the questions I'm answering. | / \ | |/--===### Powered By FreeBSD 2.2.1 \| | www.freebsd.org | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 00:03:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA20979 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 00:03:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gravy.kishka.net (root@chestnut2-33.slip.netaxs.com [207.8.210.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA20974 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 00:03:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by gravy.kishka.net (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id DAA00191 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 03:03:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 03:03:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Bryan Liesner X-Sender: root@localhost To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Defective FreeBSD 2.2.1 CDROM ?? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I recently became a subscriber to the FreeBSD release CDROMs. I would first like to thank you for the quick response time. I received my package three days after I placed the order. But, I feel that I may have have a defective set of CD's. I can read most of the disk just fine - the installation of 2.2.1 over my previous installation went flawlessly. I can also read all of the XFree86 files without error. When I go for installing packages, well, that's where the trouble begins. Some of the packages are read and installed via pkg_add without trouble, some cause multiple read errors. For example, ispell installed OK, but the lyx package caused lots of these: matcd0: Illegal data mode for this track while reading block xxxxxxx This is a repeatable error - I can always read the "good" files, and always get the above error on the "bad" files. Is it possible that there was a bad pressing run on the CD's? I'm using the Matshushita [CR563] CD drive attached to a (real) SB16 sound card. I have never experienced any problems reading other CD's (music or data) before using the Walnut Creek CD's. Here's my order info: Bryan Liesner 1736 Riverside Drive Philadelphia, PA 19154 (215) 824-1556 I ordered the subscription package for $24.95 I would appreciate it if you could send me a replacement set of CD's - I will gladly ship back the set that I have (if required) upon receipt of the new set. ____ | _ \ | |_) |_ __ _ _ __ _ _ __ | _ <| '__| | | |/ _` | '_ \ ====================== | |_) | | | |_| | (_| | | | | = Powered by FreeBSD = |____/|_| \__, |\__,_|_| |_| ====================== __/ | |___/ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 00:19:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA21584 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 00:19:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from narcissus.ml.org (root@brosenga.Pitzer.edu [134.173.120.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA21572 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 00:19:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ben@localhost) by narcissus.ml.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA06699; Tue, 6 May 1997 00:19:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 00:19:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Snob Art Genre To: Kevin Eliuk cc: "Adam L. Simpson" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: monitoring users In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 5 May 1997, Kevin Eliuk wrote: > On Tue, 6 May 1997, Adam L. Simpson wrote: > > >Maybe this is a dumb question, but is there a way to watch exactly what a > >user whois connected to your system and see exactly what they are doing? > > > > > > > > $ w > lsof is also useful, especially combined with netstat -a. Or if you really want to get intrusive, man watch(8). Ben "You have your mind on computers, it seems." From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 00:25:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA21902 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 00:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za (pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za [163.195.219.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA21894 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 00:25:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za (localhost.nanoteq.co.za [127.0.0.1]) by pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA13842; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:24:31 GMT Message-Id: <199705060924.JAA13842@pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za> To: Luciano Kolotelo cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Tech info. In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 05 May 1997 11:55:42 -0300." <336DF4EE.6702@nutecnet.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 09:24:31 +0000 From: Pierre-Andre van Leeuwen Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi, > > I have a project to install a gateway between Novell and SunOS 4.1.3 > which I am more familiar to. I use NIS and NFS at the Unix side. The > question is does Free BSD support both ? Yes Would you recomend Linux > instead ? > No, for network stability FreeBSD is the right choice. -- Pierre-Andre van Leeuwen Electronic Engineer Powered By FreeBSD ******************************** * Nanoteq (Pty) Ltd. * * Specialists in data security * * E-mail : pvl@nanoteq.com * * Ph : +27 (0)12 665-1338 * * http://www.nanoteq.co.za * ******************************** From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 00:30:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA22195 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 00:30:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pino.ngonet.be (pino.ngonet.be [193.190.166.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA22165 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 00:30:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from koekiemonster.ngonet.be (tommie.ngonet.be [193.190.166.2]) by pino.ngonet.be (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA05024 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:29:39 +0200 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970506092812.00691838@gatekeeper> X-Sender: gul@gatekeeper X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 09:28:12 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Gunter Loos Subject: PPP 2.2.0 behaving badly. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there: I've recently switched to using FreeBSD 2.2.1, mgetty 1.0.0 and PPP 2.2.0 to service ppp-users. They either use a login (some still do) or pap. Since a few days, however, I've been experiencing some problems: logfile ppp looks like: May 5 21:20:04 tommie pppd[2252]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0 May 5 21:20:04 tommie pppd[2252]: Using interface ppp0 May 5 21:20:04 tommie pppd[2252]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/cuaa0 May 5 21:20:28 tommie pppd[2252]: Hangup (SIGHUP) May 5 21:20:28 tommie pppd[2252]: Modem hangup May 5 21:20:28 tommie pppd[2252]: Exit. Which is not very good: no IP addresses assigned... Does anyone have a clue? I'd like to know if someone's seen this before, AND knows what to do with it... Gunter. -- . .__ . |Gunter Loos, SysAdmin, NgoNet, Belgium _| _ [ __ | | Voice: +32 (0)2 539 26 20 _](/, [_./(_|| | mailto:gul@ngonet.be | http://www.ngonet.be/~gul From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 00:38:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA22457 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 00:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (gatekeeper.barcode.co.il [192.116.93.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA22451 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 00:38:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (8.8.5/8.6.12) id KAA02398; Tue, 6 May 1997 10:36:20 +0300 (IDT) X-Authentication-Warning: gatekeeper.barcode.co.il: smap set sender to using -f Received: from localhost.barcode.co.il(127.0.0.1) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il via smap (V1.3) id sma002395; Tue May 6 10:36:05 1997 Message-ID: <336EDFAD.7D52@barcode.co.il> Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 10:37:17 +0300 From: Nadav Eiron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Zborovski CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Multiple Ip's on one Ethernet References: <336E1393.6708@moonlighting.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Daniel Zborovski wrote: > > When I enter the command to get more than one IP on my ethernet card : > ifconfig ed1 alias 207.107.140.243 netmask 255.255.255.224 > > It comes back with the message: > ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File Exists > > But I still can't ping 207.107.140.243 > > Thanks alot in advance > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > |Daniel Zborovski | daniel@moonlighting.net | > |Network Administartor | | > |Moonlighting Web Management | http://www.moonlighting.net | > ------------------------------------------------------------ If it's on the same network asthe primary address, use a netmask of all 1's (i.e. 255.255.255.255). If not, you'll have to modify the routing table too. Look in the archives. There have been countless discussions of this issue here. Nadav From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 00:41:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA22678 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 00:41:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.116.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA22673 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 00:41:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA24092; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:41:58 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) id JAA18067; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:59:00 +0200 (MET DST) From: Christoph Kukulies Message-Id: <199705060759.JAA18067@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: 2.1.5->2.2.1? In-Reply-To: from Neil Bradley at "May 5, 97 02:36:31 pm" To: neil@synthcom.com (Neil Bradley) Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 09:59:00 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > What do I gain by upgrading from 2.1.5 to 2.2.1? I'm considering it > *VERY* seriously, and wondered what other people's opinions are in > regards to this. ;-) Thanks! better ATAPI CDROM support better security (hopefully) if your machine is networked. (more exploit holes stuffed - ftpd, lpd, sendmail) javac support come to mind > > -->Neil > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Neil Bradley Synthcom home : http://www.synthcom.com > Synthcom Systems, Inc. Used gear P.L.: http://www.synthcom.com/cgi-bin/gear > > -- Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 01:07:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA23872 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 01:07:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.gte.net (smtp.gte.net [207.115.153.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA23867 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 01:07:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from enigma (wphu128237.pac.gte.net [207.115.128.237]) by smtp.gte.net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) with ESMTP id DAA11123 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 03:07:03 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <336E5945.4BD7233A@gte.net> Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 22:03:49 +0000 From: b & Jill X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!! X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hi.. after hearing about how great freebsd was, i decided to try it. so far i've had nothing but troubles in getting it to install, from the install script not really working, to the xf86config file being lost, to just a general not workingness (?) of the whole thing... the first time i tried to install, i decided that installing everything would be a good way to check out the os and how it worked...i figured that with 1.5GB i wouldn't have any problems with space...guess i was wrong. so i did the next best thing. i did the ole pick and choose routine and went with things that i knew that i'd use and that have worked well in the past for me while using linux. once again, out of space. i'm beginning to wonder about this process, cause i have an ENTIRE distro. of slackware in almost the same amount of space. what am i doing wrong here? anyway, what i'm getting at is that any suggestions or pointers that anyone can offer outside of the manuals on the freebsd page would be greatly appreciated. thanks for your time brian From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 01:08:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA23929 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 01:08:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.116.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA23905 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 01:07:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id KAA24432; Tue, 6 May 1997 10:08:55 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) id KAA18229; Tue, 6 May 1997 10:26:02 +0200 (MET DST) From: Christoph Kukulies Message-Id: <199705060826.KAA18229@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: monitoring users In-Reply-To: from Kevin Eliuk at "May 5, 97 11:07:32 pm" To: kevin_eliuk@sunshine.net Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 10:26:02 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: adam@netsonic.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Tue, 6 May 1997, Adam L. Simpson wrote: > > >Maybe this is a dumb question, but is there a way to watch exactly what a > >user whois connected to your system and see exactly what they are doing? > > > > > > > > > $ w man watch [sorry, somehow I clobbered your sig] > the questions I asked, | \ Kevin G. Eliuk / | > |/--===### Powered By FreeBSD 2.2.1 \| > | www.freebsd.org | -- Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 01:57:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA26303 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 01:57:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (gatekeeper.barcode.co.il [192.116.93.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA26294 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 01:57:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (8.8.5/8.6.12) id LAA02643; Tue, 6 May 1997 11:54:52 +0300 (IDT) X-Authentication-Warning: gatekeeper.barcode.co.il: smap set sender to using -f Received: from localhost.barcode.co.il(127.0.0.1) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il via smap (V1.3) id sma002640; Tue May 6 11:54:34 1997 Message-ID: <336EF20D.37B9@barcode.co.il> Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 11:55:41 +0300 From: Nadav Eiron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: b & Jill CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!! References: <336E5945.4BD7233A@gte.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk b & Jill wrote: > > hi.. > after hearing about how great freebsd was, i decided to try it. > so far i've had nothing but troubles in getting it to install, from the > install script not > really working, to the xf86config file being lost, to just a general not > workingness (?) > of the whole thing... > > the first time i tried to install, i decided that installing everything > would be a good way to > check out the os and how it worked...i figured that with 1.5GB i > wouldn't have any > problems with space...guess i was wrong. so i did the next best thing. i > did the ole > pick and choose routine and went with things that i knew that i'd use > and that have > worked well in the past for me while using linux. once again, out of > space. > i'm beginning to wonder about this process, cause i have an ENTIRE > distro. of > slackware in almost the same amount of space. what am i doing wrong > here? > > anyway, what i'm getting at is that any suggestions or pointers that > anyone can offer > outside of the manuals on the freebsd page would be greatly appreciated. How did you partition your disk? Which version are you installing? What is the exact error message you receive, and when does it happen? (i.e. what options do you select during installation). I think we need more info to help you out. > > thanks for your time > > brian Nadav From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 02:18:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA27241 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 02:18:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beta.mep.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (beta.mep.ruhr-uni-bochum.de [134.147.6.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA27235 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 02:18:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from roberte@localhost) by beta.mep.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA03171; Tue, 6 May 1997 11:18:05 +0200 (MET DST) From: Robert Eckardt Message-Id: <199705060918.LAA03171@beta.mep.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Subject: Re: DNS strangeness In-Reply-To: <199705052301.RAA16000@cube.i-pi.com> from Kenneth Ingham at "5. May. 97 16:59:11" To: ingham@i-pi.com (Kenneth Ingham) Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 11:18:04 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: jordyn@bestweb.net, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Are you aware that _ is not a legal character in domain names? > > Recent versions of named claim to be enforcing this. You might add to your /etc/named.boot file: check-names primary fail check-names secondary warn check-names response ignore PING viewtek_comm1.pcnet-inc.com (206.98.180.168): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 206.98.180.168: icmp_seq=1 ttl=116 time=165.331 ms Robert -- Dr. Robert Eckardt ( Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Inst.f.Theor.Physik, NB6/169 ) Universitaetsstrasse 150, D-44780 Bochum, Germany ----X---8---- Telefon: +49 234 700-3709, Telefax: +49 234 7094-574 8 E-Mail: RobertE@MEP.Ruhr-Uni-Bochum.de --------8---- URL: http://WWW.MEP.Ruhr-Uni-Bochum.de/~roberte >>> A magician never reveals his secret: the unbelievable trick becomes <<< >>> simple and obvious once it is explained. <<< From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 03:26:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA03248 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 03:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [207.141.254.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA03222 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 03:26:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA20917; Tue, 6 May 1997 05:26:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19970506052608.04025@shell.futuresouth.com> Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 05:26:08 -0500 From: Tim Tsai To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Amanda/Archive DAT changer problem solved. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk We've finally gotten Amanda working correctly with our Archive 4mm DAT changer (4586NP). First, 2.2/3.0 now has the chio SCSI changer code from NetBSD incorporated. Second, Amanda 2.3.0.4 from ftp.gps.caltech.edu includes a seagate-changer program that can control the changer directly using the chio mechanism. This has been a long standing problem for us and just thought that I point it out if somebody else is using a similar configuration. Tim FSCI From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 03:38:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA03871 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 03:38:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA03866 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 03:38:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-129 [207.14.72.129]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA01754 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 01:34:51 -0800 Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 02:28:38 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: freebsd-questions Subject: X fonts Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk for any other X dummies ... to select a font for xterm, etc, you must use the name "xlsfonts" prints out, not the name of the font-file in the fonts directories ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 04:24:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA05773 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 04:24:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.jpunix.com (root@alpha.jpunix.com [199.3.234.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA05768 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 04:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from perry@localhost) by alpha.jpunix.com (8.8.5/8.7.5) id GAA06864 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 6 May 1997 06:24:37 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 06:24:35 -0500 (CDT) From: "John A. Perry" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: TOP an 2.2.1? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: TOP and FBSD 2.2.1 Summary: Expires: Sender: Followup-To: Distribution: Organization: J. P. and Associates Keywords: Cc: I just loaded FBSD 2.2.1 from the CD I got from Walnut Creek. Now when I run top to look at processes it looks like doo-doo. Everything is all garbled. I ftp'ed the latest top distribution and still got the same. What happened? Is there any other info I need to include to resolve this? I really like top! John Perry KG5RG perry@alpha.jpunix.com PGP-encrypted e-mail welcome! Amateur Radio Address: kg5rg@kg5rg.ampr.org WWW - http://www.jpunix.com PGP 2.62 key for perry@jpunix.com is on the keyservers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 04:33:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA06000 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 04:33:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA05995 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 04:33:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from economic.acnit.ac.ru (economic.acnit.ac.ru [193.233.113.18]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA29363 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 04:29:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bazilio@localhost) by economic.acnit.ac.ru (8.8.5/8.8.4) id PAA00524; Tue, 6 May 1997 15:18:41 +0400 (MSD) Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 15:18:40 +0400 (MSD) From: "Vasily V. Grechishnikov" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: PCI IDE, second question ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi ! I have motherboard w/ integrated PCI IDE and run FreeBSD 2.2R. Does anybody know 2.2 RELEASE can use all features of this controller? My dmesg: [ skipped ] FreeBSD 2.2-RELEASE #0: Tue May 6 12:25:33 MSD 1997 bazilio@economic.acnit.ac.ru:/usr/src/sys/compile/BAZILIOS-KERNEL-VI CPU: Pentium (119.76-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x526 Stepping=6 Features=0x1bf real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) avail memory = 30801920 (30080K bytes) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0 rev 1 on pci0:0 chip1 rev 1 on pci0:7:0 chip2 rev 0 on pci0:7:1 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [ skipped ] wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 flags 0xff8004 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): , 32-bit, multi-block-4 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ wd0: 1222MB (2503872 sectors), 2484 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, accel, ovlap, dma, iordis [ skipped ] Thanks , Vasily . ******[FreeBSD it is coolest UNIX for PC!]******* * System admin , ftp and web master. * * Home Page: http://www.econ.acnit.ac.ru/ * * E-mail: bazilio@economic.acnit.ac.ru * * fidonet: 2:5025/37.8 * * * * Industrial Economy Departament * * Voronezh State Technical University * * * ************************************************* From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 04:46:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA06408 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 04:46:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from konig.elte.hu (konig.elte.hu [157.181.6.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA06403 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 04:46:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (sebesty@localhost) by konig.elte.hu (8.8.3/8.7.3/7s) with SMTP id NAA28737 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 13:45:56 +0200 Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 13:45:55 +0200 (MET DST) From: Zoltan Sebestyen X-Sender: sebesty@konig To: freebsd-questions Subject: MP3 player is released In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Its address is: http://www-inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~ctsay/mp2win/maplay+.freebsd.zip -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sebestyen Zoltan It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up. szoli@caesar.elte.hu But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid? From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 05:04:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA07023 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 05:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA07017 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 05:04:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from economic.acnit.ac.ru (economic.acnit.ac.ru [193.233.113.18]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA00835 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 05:02:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bazilio@localhost) by economic.acnit.ac.ru (8.8.5/8.8.4) id PAA00668; Tue, 6 May 1997 15:56:56 +0400 (MSD) Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 15:56:56 +0400 (MSD) From: "Vasily V. Grechishnikov" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Is cvsup.ru.freebsd.org alive or no ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi ! cvsup.ru.FreeBSD.ORG is existent host . But if I wish to download CVS Tree cvsup, after make update reports: cvsup.ru.freebsd.org - connection refused ;-( Thanks , Vasily . ******[FreeBSD it is coolest UNIX for PC!]******* * System admin , ftp and web master. * * Home Page: http://www.econ.acnit.ac.ru/ * * E-mail: bazilio@economic.acnit.ac.ru * * fidonet: 2:5025/37.8 * * * * Industrial Economy Departament * * Voronezh State Technical University * * * ************************************************* From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 05:58:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA08803 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 05:58:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.ukrv.de (gatekeeper.ukrv.de [193.175.72.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA08796 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 05:58:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gatekeeper.ukrv.de; (5.65/1.1.8.2/17Oct95-0336PM) id AA16480; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:58:27 +0200 Received: from mailhost(193.175.66.33) by gatekeeper.ukrv.de via smap (V1.3-JSC) id sma016498; Tue May 6 14:58:07 1997 Received: from merlin.ukrv.de by mailhost.ukrv.de; (5.65/1.1.8.2/08Mar95-0213PM) id AA17692; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:58:07 +0200 Received: by merlin.ukrv.de (4.1/UKRV-Gen PCG 0.1) id AA27790; Tue, 6 May 97 14:58:06 +0200 From: Udo Wolter Message-Id: <9705061258.AA27790@merlin.ukrv.de> Subject: Re: MP3 player is released In-Reply-To: from Zoltan Sebestyen at "May 6, 97 01:45:55 pm" To: sebesty@cs.elte.hu (Zoltan Sebestyen) Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 14:58:06 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Its address is: > http://www-inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~ctsay/mp2win/maplay+.freebsd.zip Can anyone tell me why it's nearly impossible to play MPEG audio with this tool ? On nearly every SB Pro compatible card I get only crap out of MPEG files. In windows they're all ok. So where's the problem ? I think a Pentium 133 should be fast enough to handle & to play them. I never get any satisfying result when using MPEG audio with FreeBSD...:-( Any ideas ? Thanx, Udo P.S.: The files are on the LOW-TECH-Page (address below) -- Udo Wolter, email: uwp@cs.tu-berlin.de !!! LOW-TECH Page: http://www.cs.tu-berlin.de/~uwp/low-tech.html !!! From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 06:08:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA09179 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 06:08:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from coyote.instrumatic.ch (coyote.instrumatic.ch [194.206.238.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA09173 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 06:08:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by coyote.instrumatic.ch (8.7.5/8.6.12-970407/ast) with UUCP id PAA28499 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 6 May 1997 15:08:06 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from credal.ch by crow.credal.ch (8.7.5/8.6.12-ast960730) id PAA10716; Tue, 6 May 1997 15:03:14 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mail.credal.ch (mail.ARPA) by credal.ch (5.0/1.35/ast-19960729) id AA00206; Tue, 6 May 97 15:02:58 +0200 Received: from credal.credal.ch ([193.5.123.8]) by mail.credal.ch (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with SMTP id AAA124 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 15:05:54 +0200 Message-Id: <336F2C15.3C26@credal.ch> Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 15:03:17 +0200 From: "Rudi Buergin" Reply-To: rudi@credal.ch X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: scsi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk i have a dpt pm2012B/90 SCSI controller they are works with FreeBSD? or i need a special driver. 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Support e-mail: rudi.buergin@credal.ch -------------------------------\\\--------------------------/// From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 06:13:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA09424 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 06:13:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vital.bleeding.com (vital.bleeding.com [205.166.195.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA09419 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 06:13:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crimson (crimson.bleeding.com [205.166.254.2]) by vital.bleeding.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA29305; Tue, 6 May 1997 06:11:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by crimson with Microsoft Mail id <01BC59E5.236F2280@crimson>; Tue, 6 May 1997 06:17:13 -0700 Message-ID: <01BC59E5.236F2280@crimson> From: Justin Wolf To: "'John A. Perry'" , "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: RE: TOP an 2.2.1? Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 06:17:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id GAA09420 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You need to recompile it or get the most recent bin. This happened to me as well and baffled me until I tried the most recent version. Apparently TOP uses some low-level routines which changed slightly between revs. (I went from 2.1.7 to 2.2... don't have 2.2.1) Good luck. -Justin -----Original Message----- From: John A. Perry [SMTP:perry@alpha.jpunix.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 1997 4:25 AM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: TOP an 2.2.1? Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Subject: TOP and FBSD 2.2.1 Summary: Expires: Sender: Followup-To: Distribution: Organization: J. P. and Associates Keywords: Cc: I just loaded FBSD 2.2.1 from the CD I got from Walnut Creek. Now when I run top to look at processes it looks like doo-doo. Everything is all garbled. I ftp'ed the latest top distribution and still got the same. What happened? Is there any other info I need to include to resolve this? I really like top! John Perry KG5RG perry@alpha.jpunix.com PGP-encrypted e-mail welcome! Amateur Radio Address: kg5rg@kg5rg.ampr.org WWW - http://www.jpunix.com PGP 2.62 key for perry@jpunix.com is on the keyservers. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 06:58:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA11789 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 06:58:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from konig.elte.hu (konig.elte.hu [157.181.6.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA11783 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 06:58:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (sebesty@localhost) by konig.elte.hu (8.8.3/8.7.3/7s) with SMTP id PAA01958; Tue, 6 May 1997 15:58:26 +0200 Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 15:58:25 +0200 (MET DST) From: Zoltan Sebestyen X-Sender: sebesty@konig To: Udo Wolter cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MP3 player is released In-Reply-To: <9705061258.AA27790@merlin.ukrv.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Can anyone tell me why it's nearly impossible to play MPEG audio with > this tool ? On nearly every SB Pro compatible card I get only crap out of > MPEG files. In windows they're all ok. So where's the problem ? I think > a Pentium 133 should be fast enough to handle & to play them. I never get > any satisfying result when using MPEG audio with FreeBSD...:-( > > Any ideas ? > > Thanx, > Udo > No idea. I've just tested it on my PC w\ Pentium 133 + SoundBlaster 32 PnP and it seemed to work fine. (I've run it on console, so there were no X11, but I think it wouldn't consume so much CPU time. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sebestyen Zoltan It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up. szoli@caesar.elte.hu But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid? From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 07:08:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA12441 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 07:08:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sol.ashland.edu (sol.ashland.edu [198.30.217.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA12436 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 07:08:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from warp4.ashland.edu for jroberts@ashland.edu by sol.ashland.edu (8.6.12/931002.1044) id KAA08035; Tue, 6 May 1997 10:09:32 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 10:15:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Roberts To: FreeBSD Questions Discussion List Subject: manual dialout PPP si'l vous plait? Message-ID: X-X-Sender: jroberts@mail.ashland.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings! I need to dial my USR 144 out to connect with my school. I have read *Pedantic* and other docs (maybe I missed something?), but I still haven't been able to get through the school's menu after connecting. All I need to do is 1. send ; to open dialogue 2. wait for "username>" 3. send username 4. wait for "password>" 5. send password 6. wait for "keys:" 7. send '3' ; choose option 3 from menu However, none of my various modifications to the ppp dialout files will get me through the above dialogue. I don't know if I need this CHAP thing (I've been connecting with Warp to the school for a long time, and have never seen "CHAP" mentioned anywhere). Is there a way for me to just do this manually, until I figure out the ppp file syntax -- i.e., after connecting, I could manually enter the information myself, and then start the juice by hitting some key (I think I used to do this in Doze by hitting ESC)? Thanks in advance for any advice/suggestions! =) Jeff ______________________________________________________________________ jroberts@ashland.edu >>>> Jeff Roberts <<<< strider@acm.org ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 07:36:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA13842 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 07:36:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sol.ashland.edu (sol.ashland.edu [198.30.217.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA13833 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 07:36:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from warp4.ashland.edu for jroberts@ashland.edu by sol.ashland.edu (8.6.12/931002.1044) id KAA11140; Tue, 6 May 1997 10:37:08 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 10:43:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Roberts To: FreeBSD Questions Discussion List Subject: Off Topic: X desktop manager for FBSD? Message-ID: X-X-Sender: jroberts@mail.ashland.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, everyone. After a month of labor, I have finally found a combination of card/monitor settings that gives me a minimal XFree86 setup (VGA16) on my P6 w/ Trident Providia. However, I can't seem to do some of the things I used to be able to do in SCO (Motif?), such as put objects on the desktop, etc. I also haven't found where to set fvwm as my default window manager (twm is what always comes up), or why xvidtune adjustments are never saved (do I have to put them in a file manually?). With fvwm and tkdesk, I can get a (barely) acceptable desktop. Is there another widget or tool that I need to be able to make folders/icons on the desktop? What do *you* do? If you don't think other list members would benefit, please just reply to me personally. Thanks! Jeff ______________________________________________________________________ jroberts@ashland.edu >>>> Jeff Roberts <<<< strider@acm.org ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 07:51:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA14438 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 07:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailbox.ser.bbnplanet.com (mailbox.sura.net [128.167.254.216]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14433 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 07:51:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nola.srrc.usda.gov (nola.srrc.usda.gov [199.78.118.2]) by mailbox.ser.bbnplanet.com (8.8.4/8.7.2) with SMTP id KAA09783 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 10:50:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [199.78.118.118] by nola.srrc.usda.gov (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA08856; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:42:17 -0500 Message-Id: <336F52CA.A5E83ADF@nola.srrc.usda.gov> Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 10:48:26 -0500 From: Glenn Johnson Organization: USDA-ARS-SRRC; CFQ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3C (X11; I; Linux 2.0.27 i686) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Installing ApplixWare X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is anyone using ApplixWare 4.3 for Linux on their FreeBSD machine? I am currently using this on a Linux machine at work that I would like to convert to a FreeBSD machine. I am pretty sure that the binaries will run OK, but I am not sure how to install the binaries. Everything in ApplixWare 4.3 is in RPM format and I am not sure how to proceed to get the binaries installed. Any help is greatly appreciated. ------------- Glenn Johnson USDA-ARS-SRRC; CFQ Phone: (504) 286-4252; FAX: (504) 286-4217 e-mail: gjohnson@nola.srrc.usda.gov From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 07:55:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA14690 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 07:55:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan@dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14685 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 07:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) id JAA09508; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:55:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19970506095537.00631@dan.emsphone.com> Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 09:55:37 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Udo Wolter Cc: Zoltan Sebestyen , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MP3 player is released References: <9705061258.AA27790@merlin.ukrv.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.67e In-Reply-To: <9705061258.AA27790@merlin.ukrv.de>; from "Udo Wolter" on Tue, May 06, 1997 at 02:58:06PM +0200 X-OS: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In the last episode (May 6), Udo Wolter said: > > Its address is: > > http://www-inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~ctsay/mp2win/maplay+.freebsd.zip > > Can anyone tell me why it's nearly impossible to play MPEG audio with > this tool ? On nearly every SB Pro compatible card I get only crap out of In case anyone else is interested, there are two other MPEG-audio players that I know of. amp v0.7.3: only plays Layer 3 files (.mp3) available at ftp://ftp.rasip.fer.hr/pub/mpeg/ mpg123 v0.59: plays Layer 1,2,3, plus may play Fraunhofer's layer 2.5 claims to be the fastest Unix MPEG player available at http://www.sfs.nphil.uni-tuebingen.de/~hipp/mpg123.html Both are in development (but work fine anyway), and each has a low-traffic mailing list if you want to help work on them. -Dan Nelson dnelson@emsphone.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 08:10:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA15668 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:10:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA15660 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:10:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-129 [207.14.72.129]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA02468 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 06:07:29 -0800 Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 07:01:14 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: freebsd-questions Subject: string or int? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk in regards to sh programming ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "man test" says to use != and = for strings, and -ne and -eq for integers ... many times, they appear to be interchangable ... what is the rule to determine whether your value is a string or an integer? From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 08:13:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA15787 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:13:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za (pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za [163.195.219.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15624 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:10:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za (localhost.nanoteq.co.za [127.0.0.1]) by pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA17631; Tue, 6 May 1997 17:09:52 GMT Message-Id: <199705061709.RAA17631@pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za> To: Jeff Roberts cc: FreeBSD Questions Discussion List Subject: Re: Off Topic: X desktop manager for FBSD? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 06 May 1997 10:43:23 -0400." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 17:09:52 +0000 From: Pierre-Andre van Leeuwen Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Hi, everyone. > > After a month of labor, I have finally found a combination of card/monitor > settings that gives me a minimal XFree86 setup (VGA16) on my P6 w/ > Trident Providia. However, I can't > seem to do some of the things I used to be able to do in SCO (Motif?), > such as put objects on the desktop, etc. I also haven't found where to > set fvwm as my default window manager (twm is what always comes up), or Look in ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession depending on whether you run xdm or not. If these files are missing, copy them from /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit (xdm). In them you just load your preferred window manager (fvwm). > why xvidtune adjustments are never saved (do I have to put them in a > file manually?). I always update /etc/XF86Config manually with the values I get from xvidtune. You have to look for the right modeline (check frequencies and resolution) and then change the sync values. Just be careful, as you can probably damage your monitor by changing the wrong values. With fvwm and tkdesk, I can get a (barely) acceptable > desktop. Is there another widget or tool that I need to be able to make > folders/icons on the desktop? What do *you* do? I haven't tried it myself, but maybe fvwm95 is what you are looking for. I use tkgoodstuff myself, and it works just dandy with fvwm2. Good luck -- Pierre-Andre van Leeuwen Electronic Engineer Powered By FreeBSD ******************************** * Nanoteq (Pty) Ltd. * * Specialists in data security * * E-mail : pvl@nanoteq.com * * Ph : +27 (0)12 665-1338 * * http://www.nanoteq.co.za * ******************************** From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 08:31:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA16662 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:31:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lsmarso.dialup.access.net (lsmarso.dialup.access.net [166.84.254.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA16657 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:30:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lsmarso@localhost) by lsmarso.dialup.access.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA01090; Tue, 6 May 1997 11:29:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970506112933.33947@panix.com> Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 11:29:33 -0400 From: "Larry S. Marso" To: Thomas David Rivers , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: screen trembling References: <199705060058.UAA29910@lakes.water.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199705060058.UAA29910@lakes.water.net>; from Thomas David Rivers on Mon, May 05, 1997 at 08:58:33PM -0400 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Actually, I'm seeing screen trembling on my Chicony/Chembook laptop. It's a sweet machine, 200mz pentium, 13.3 inch active matrix screen. But I'm getting screen trembling at times running under X; it's worse in some sessions than others, and you can tell immediately from the start-up. I'd guess it's an SVGA server problem, but I'm not sure. On Mon, May 05, 1997 at 08:58:33PM -0400, Thomas David Rivers wrote: > > > > Sounds like a problem I'm having, but I accidently erased the posting. > > Would appreciate a copy. > > -- > > Larry S. Marso > > lsmarso@panix.com > > > > Depending on what type of trembling your seeing - I found that > having my speakers in the case with the monitor (one of my monitors > is a NEC M700, with built-in speakers) causes a trembling, or waver, > when the volume is load enough... apparently, the speakers aren't > as magnetically sealed as one would hope... > > You may have something close to the monitor that is causing this, > a radio, disk drive, CD-ROM playper, etc... > > - Dave Rivers - -- Larry S. Marso lsmarso@panix.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 08:36:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA17013 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:36:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xmission.xmission.com (softweyr@xmission.xmission.com [198.60.22.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA17003 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:36:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from softweyr@localhost) by xmission.xmission.com (8.8.5/8.7.5) id JAA04792; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:36:46 -0600 (MDT) From: Wes Peters - Softweyr LLC Message-Id: <199705061536.JAA04792@xmission.xmission.com> Subject: Re: dbm libraries To: michaelb@wni.com Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 09:36:46 -0600 (MDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Michael Branch" at May 5, 97 06:03:48 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Michael A. Branch asked: > where do I obtain the libdbm sources so I can compile the libdbm > suitable for FreeBSD 2.2? I don't see libdbm.xx anywhere on the > filesystem. You can find sources for the GNU dbm library at ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/gnu/gdbm-1.7.3.tar.gz If you're developing new software, you might want to look at the db library instead, it features a number of enhancements over the capabilities of dbm. See the man page for dbopen(3) and follow the SEE ALSO captions. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.xmission.com/~softweyr softweyr@xmission.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 08:43:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA17303 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:43:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xmission.xmission.com (softweyr@xmission.xmission.com [198.60.22.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA17295 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:43:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from softweyr@localhost) by xmission.xmission.com (8.8.5/8.7.5) id JAA05959; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:43:02 -0600 (MDT) From: Wes Peters - Softweyr LLC Message-Id: <199705061543.JAA05959@xmission.xmission.com> Subject: Re: Finding documentation for FreeBSD. To: CBROWN@seitz.com (Chris Brown) Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 09:42:58 -0600 (MDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <945C782F012E0F00@seitz.com> from "Chris Brown" at May 3, 97 01:45:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Chris Brown asked: > I am getting ready to build up several servers for mail, web > server, ftp server, DNS etc. and several lower level machines for > remote site routing and mail. The systems that are being seriously > considered are FreeBSD and Linux. I have been gravitating tward > Linux primarily because the documentation is easier to find and seams > to be in a format that is more simple to use. The UN*X world in > general is fairly new to me and documentation and support at this > time are extremely important. > > What are the best sources of documentation other than the > FreeBSD handbook and the FAQs. Any book about BSD UNIX, including all of the O'Reilly series and most books on UNIX security, system administration, and programming. In general, unless it specifically mentions System V in the title, it's about BSD. > Is there a compelling reason to use FreeBSD over Linux? For > some time our servers will be fairly bandwidth limited so I don't see > that there will be a large enough difference in performance to be > noticed for some time. The stability of the release system. FreeBSD releases are shipped as a complete set, including kernel, drivers, system and utility programs. With Linux, you basically get the kernel du jour, a mish-mash of drivers, some of which are "not ready for prime time" but are released anyhow, and sombody's collection of tools and utilities. Plus, FreeBSD *still* has the best, most stable TCP/IP implementation. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.xmission.com/~softweyr softweyr@xmission.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 08:49:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA17474 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xmission.xmission.com (softweyr@xmission.xmission.com [198.60.22.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA17469 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:49:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from softweyr@localhost) by xmission.xmission.com (8.8.5/8.7.5) id JAA07050; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:48:58 -0600 (MDT) From: Wes Peters - Softweyr LLC Message-Id: <199705061548.JAA07050@xmission.xmission.com> Subject: Re: g++ To: staffs@hotmail.com (Scott Stafford) Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 09:48:57 -0600 (MDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199705041811.NAA19238@mail.mankato.msus.edu> from "Scott Stafford" at May 4, 97 01:11:34 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Scott Stafford queried: > The computer system at my college runs version 4.4 of the ULTRIX operating > system. Is freeBSD comparable to this system? Yes. Ultrix is based on 4.2 BSD, FreeBSD is based on 4.4 BSD. Obviously, FreeBSD has additional features, being based on code that is 14 years newer. Ultrix was never known as a paragon of stability anyhow -- it is noted in the Hacker's Jargon File as being known as "buglix." ;^) You'll also find that a pentium-based FreeBSD system is faster than your Ultrix system. ;^) > I am interested in using this OS to save me the trouble of logging in and > tying up a phone line whenever I need to compile a program. Great idea. Plus, it'll probably compile much faster. ;^) > My second Question would be, does it have g++? > This is what I use to compile with. Sure does. Plus GDB for debugging, and most every other tool your heart desires. Your Ultrix programs should port very easily, unless you are reading the password file directly or something else deep in the bowels of the system. > Thank you for your time. > Scott Stafford Like MJ and his buddies at Nike keep telling us: Just Do It! If you like Ultrix, you'll love FreeBSD. Plus, the price is right. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.xmission.com/~softweyr softweyr@xmission.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 08:54:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA17684 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:54:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (gatekeeper.barcode.co.il [192.116.93.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA17679 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nadav@localhost) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (8.8.5/8.6.12) id SAA03449; Tue, 6 May 1997 18:51:33 +0300 (IDT) Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 18:51:32 +0300 (IDT) From: Nadav Eiron To: Jeff Roberts cc: FreeBSD Questions Discussion List Subject: Re: Off Topic: X desktop manager for FBSD? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 6 May 1997, Jeff Roberts wrote: > > Hi, everyone. > > After a month of labor, I have finally found a combination of card/monitor > settings that gives me a minimal XFree86 setup (VGA16) on my P6 w/ > Trident Providia. However, I can't > seem to do some of the things I used to be able to do in SCO (Motif?), > such as put objects on the desktop, etc. I also haven't found where to > set fvwm as my default window manager (twm is what always comes up), or > why xvidtune adjustments are never saved (do I have to put them in a > file manually?). With fvwm and tkdesk, I can get a (barely) acceptable > desktop. Is there another widget or tool that I need to be able to make > folders/icons on the desktop? What do *you* do? To change your default window manager (and fvwm is pretty good, and very customizable) you need to modify either .xsession or .xinitrc (depending on how you start X - with xdm or with startx, respectively). See man xdm or man startx for details. Probably the best thing to do (after you've read the relevant man page) is to copy the default system-wide file to your login directory and modify it to your liking. > > If you don't think other list members would benefit, please just reply to > me personally. > > > Thanks! > > > Jeff > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > jroberts@ashland.edu >>>> Jeff Roberts <<<< strider@acm.org > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > Nadav From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 08:55:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA17736 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:55:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xmission.xmission.com (softweyr@xmission.xmission.com [198.60.22.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA17731 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:54:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from softweyr@localhost) by xmission.xmission.com (8.8.5/8.7.5) id JAA07695; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:52:02 -0600 (MDT) From: Wes Peters - Softweyr LLC Message-Id: <199705061552.JAA07695@xmission.xmission.com> Subject: Re: g77 To: zkoza@teitelbaum.ph.biu.ac.il (Zbigniew Koza) Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 09:52:02 -0600 (MDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199705050933.MAA15412@teitelbaum.ph.biu.ac.il> from "Zbigniew Koza" at May 5, 97 12:33:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Z. Koza asked: > The port for g77 is very old and does not work. > (It requires a relatively old version of gcc). > Shouldn't it be updated ore deleted? > I tried to compile g77 from g77-0.5.19.1.tar.gz (ftp.cdrom.com/pub/gnu), > but the "make bootstrap" command failed with an error > "I don't know how to make hash.h". > Any hope for me to install g77? Sure, just get and install the sources for the matching GCC release, build that and install it in /usr/local (or wherever you want) before attempting to build g77. You'll end up with two basically identical releases of GCC, but you will be able to build G77. Get the up-to-date GDB at the same time. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.xmission.com/~softweyr softweyr@xmission.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 09:01:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA18090 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:01:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xmission.xmission.com (softweyr@xmission.xmission.com [198.60.22.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA18085 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from softweyr@localhost) by xmission.xmission.com (8.8.5/8.7.5) id JAA09208; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:59:42 -0600 (MDT) From: Wes Peters - Softweyr LLC Message-Id: <199705061559.JAA09208@xmission.xmission.com> Subject: Re: Ghostscript config as filter To: andrzej@tu.kielce.pl (Andrzej Szydlo) Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 09:59:42 -0600 (MDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199705051232.OAA04504@tu.kielce.pl> from "Andrzej Szydlo" at May 5, 97 02:31:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I recently blatherd: > I'm using ghostscript and apsfilter to print postscript on my Epson > Stylus 300, which I bought a couple of years ago for $99. By way of reply, Andrzej Szydlo asked: % Could you please tell me how do you do this? Maybe forwarding some % configuration files wouldn't be a problem for you? I need to print % on on both EPSON an HP printers. Actually the apsfilter installation will ask you about your printers and handle all of the work for you. You need to install ghostscript first, it is available in ports or packages on 2.2. The make the apsfilter port and install it. Follow the installation instructions and you should have working print queues when done. Keep in mind that apsfilter will only work for locally-attached printers; remote pritners will need to be seetup similarly on whatever system they are actually attached to. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.xmission.com/~softweyr softweyr@xmission.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 09:04:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA18263 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:04:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA18253 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:04:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-129 [207.14.72.129]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA02785 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 07:01:00 -0800 Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 07:54:44 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: freebsd-questions Subject: tests Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk i guess this is the way "test"s work, in case it gives anyone new to sh programming some troubles ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ all integers are strings, but only numeric strings are "integers". [ x ] only fails on the null string, ""(ascii 0), not on 0 (ascii 48). any test, results in a 0(ascii 0) or 1(ascii 1). ! x is only true if x is ""(ascii 0), so it may only be used to test for the null string ("") and the result of a test([]). therefore, -gt, -lt, -ge, -le may only be used on numeric strings, the "-" tests force a stringTOint conversion for the comparison, is my guess. and so -eq/= and -ne/!= may be used interchangably, as long as you never use an alphabetic character in a -eq/-ne comparison, since a stringTOint conversion must be done w/ -ne and -eq.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- i'm "fairly" sure this is correct! From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 09:04:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA18285 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:04:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rs1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (0@rs1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.100.208]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA18275 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:04:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsd3.scs-koeln.de ([134.95.30.183]) by rs1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA74300 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 18:04:24 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 18:01:38 +0200 (CEST) From: "R. Luettgen" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: I'm missi lsdev on R2.2.1 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, What happens with lsdev on Release 2.2.1? Is there a new command to list the devices ? Thanks Ralf ---------------------------------- E-Mail: R. Luettgen Date: 06-May-97 Time: 18:01:38 This message was sent by XF-Mail ---------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 09:11:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA18647 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:11:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nice.csv.warwick.ac.uk (csubl@nice.csv.warwick.ac.uk [137.205.148.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA18584 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:10:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Mr M P Searle Message-Id: <26879.199705061604@nice.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Received: by nice.csv.warwick.ac.uk id RAA26879; Tue, 6 May 1997 17:04:27 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: 2.2.1 Installation -> problems In-Reply-To: <199705051517.RAA20766@helbig.informatik.ba-stuttgart.de> from Wolfgang Helbig at "May 5, 97 05:17:07 pm" To: helbig@MX.BA-Stuttgart.De (Wolfgang Helbig) Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 17:04:21 +0100 (BST) Cc: wouter.de.boer@pobox.com, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, jkh@time.cdrom.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Hello, > > > > When my harddisk with FreeBSD 2.1.7 crashed, I need to install FreeBSD > > again. I received on the same day the FreeBSD 2.2.1 CD ROM. > > Good old disk waiting for FreeBSD 2.2.1 :-) > Nope, you've been lucky enough to receive one of the first tests of the InstallSure system for making sure that everyone has upgraded, with a highly magnetised CD. :-) From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 09:15:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA18891 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:15:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vdp01.vailsystems.com (root@vdp01.vailsystems.com [207.152.98.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA18885 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crocodile.vale.com (crocodile [192.168.128.47]) by vdp01.vailsystems.com (8.8.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05786 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 11:15:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from slave1.vale.com (slave1.vale.com [192.168.129.10]) by crocodile.vale.com (8.8.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA22637 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 11:15:34 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <336F5A05.AC781A31@vailsys.com> Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 11:19:17 -0500 From: Dan Riley Organization: Vail Systems, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b3C (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MP3 player is released X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <9705061258.AA27790@merlin.ukrv.de> <19970506095537.00631@dan.emsphone.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dan Nelson wrote: > > In the last episode (May 6), Udo Wolter said: > > > Its address is: > > > http://www-inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~ctsay/mp2win/maplay+.freebsd.zip > > > In case anyone else is interested, there are two other MPEG-audio > players that I know of. > > amp v0.7.3: > only plays Layer 3 files (.mp3) > available at ftp://ftp.rasip.fer.hr/pub/mpeg/ > > mpg123 v0.59: > plays Layer 1,2,3, plus may play Fraunhofer's layer 2.5 > claims to be the fastest Unix MPEG player > available at http://www.sfs.nphil.uni-tuebingen.de/~hipp/mpg123.html > > Both are in development (but work fine anyway), and each has a > low-traffic mailing list if you want to help work on them. > > -Dan Nelson > Does anyone know of a player that is compatible with .wav or .au file formats? Thanks, Dan Riley dnelson@emsphone.com From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 09:18:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA19097 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rs1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (0@rs1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.100.208]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA19089 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:18:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsd3.scs-koeln.de ([134.95.30.183]) by rs1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA103616 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 18:18:35 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 18:16:52 +0200 (CEST) From: "R. Luettgen" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk subscribe From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 09:51:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA20950 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rs1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (0@rs1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.100.208]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20945 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:51:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsd3.scs-koeln.de ([134.95.30.183]) by rs1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA43695 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 18:51:52 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 18:49:22 +0200 (CEST) From: "R. Luettgen" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: I'm missing lsdev Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, What happen with lsdev in RELEASE 2.2.1? Is there a new utility to list devices? Thanks Ralf From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 10:10:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA21972 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 10:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.mankato.msus.edu (Mail.Mankato.MSUS.EDU [134.29.1.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21945 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 10:09:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from me (Dialin-310.Mankato.MSUS.EDU [134.29.22.93]) by mail.mankato.msus.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA14175 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:08:59 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199705061708.MAA14175@mail.mankato.msus.edu> From: "Scott Stafford" To: Subject: Required Space Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 12:08:26 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, How much space is required to install FreeBSD? I have an internal Zip SCSI that I would like to put it on, or will I have to create a new partition on a different drive? I've also heard that to do a tripple boot with Win NT4.0 and 95 that I should install FreeBSD first. Is this the case? Thanks, Scott Stafford From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 11:14:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA25705 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 11:14:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.internet.com.mx (root@mail.internet.com.mx [200.10.239.221]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA25697 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 11:14:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from uttt.internet.com.mx (inter152.internet.com.mx [200.10.239.152]) by mail.internet.com.mx (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA21899 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 13:21:12 -0600 Message-ID: <336F8309.60E3@mail.internet.com.mx> Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 13:14:18 -0600 From: UTTT Organization: UTTT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 [es] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Tacacs for Freebsd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Do you know where can i get tacacs for my freebsd system ? thank you Wenceslao G Olguin wgo@mail.internet.com.mx From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 11:47:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA27685 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 11:47:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.cdrom.com [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA27678 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 11:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lion.connect.more.net (lion.connect.more.net [198.209.253.32]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24573 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 11:46:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mgr3.k12.mo.us (mgr3.k12.mo.us [204.184.227.125]) by lion.connect.more.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA29145 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 13:47:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mgr3_serverx (204.184.227.125) by mgr3.k12.mo.us (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Tue, 06 May 1997 13:44:36 -0500 Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 13:44:36 -0500 Message-ID: X-Sender: rjn103s@mgr3.k12.mo.us X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: support@freebsd.com From: Richard Nelson Subject: Drive change Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I changed drives from my HTTP server to another box and now BSD will not boot:( I was told if I could edit my /etc/fstab file to the correct things that it would work, but I can not get an editor up to edit the fstab file. Please help! Thanks in advance! Richard Nelson TECH Director Mountain Grove R-III Schools rjn103s@mgr3.k12.mo.us Voice 417 926-3177 Fax 417 926-3054 FreeBSD is GOOD STUFF! And BSD is Very Cool:) From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 12:01:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA28566 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:01:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from goof.com (root@goof.com [128.173.247.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA28554 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:01:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mmead@localhost) by goof.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id OAA11434; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:59:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "matthew c. mead" Message-Id: <199705061859.OAA11434@goof.com> Subject: need disk error help! To: question@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 14:58:42 -0400 (EDT) Cc: hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm trying to resolve a problem on a machine which is having what appears to be drive errors. Can someone help me interpret this message and figure out what to do to mark this part of the disk as unusable or some other measure? Thanks! These messages are showing up on the console (and in the dmesg log): wd0s1h: hard error reading fsbn 2086522 of 2086512-2086527 (wd0s1 bn 3135098; cn 3110 tn 3 sn 29)wd0: status 59 error 10 wd0s1h: hard error reading fsbn 2086522 of 2086512-2086527 (wd0s1 bn 3135098; cn 3110 tn 3 sn 29)wd0: status 59 error 40 Any ideas? Thanks! -matt -- Matthew C. Mead mmead@goof.com http://www.goof.com/~mmead/ From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 15:03:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA08028 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 15:03:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from boris.theeddy.com (boris.theeddy.com [204.186.117.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA08018 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 15:03:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyber-intsrv ([151.197.92.28]) by boris.theeddy.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA18737; Tue, 6 May 1997 18:01:21 -0400 Message-Id: <199705062201.SAA18737@boris.theeddy.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: rajesha@ct-yardley.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 19:04:34 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: ftp daemon CC: rakeshs@ct-yardley.com Priority: urgent X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is in regards to a problem in the ftp daemon supplied with the FreeBSD (Rel 2.1.7). The problem is: 1) Suppose I logged in as one of the designated ftp user. The ftp daemon would place the user in this directory ('/home/ftp/user') Then suppose if he did a 'cd ..', he/she would be at /home/ftp' Then he/she reissued the 'cd..' command thus placing them in '/home' directory (on my system, /home -> /usr/home) 2) If an anonymous ftp user logs in, he is not able to go beyond the '/home/ftp' even if he tries 'cd ..' two or more times. This would be a security risk if an ftp users other than anonymous can get to system areas through ftp!!. Are there any other settings that need to be set in the ftp resource files I would appreciate if you could give some hints or pointers regarding these issues!! Rajesh Acharya Cybertech Intl, Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 16:05:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA11810 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 16:05:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rs1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (0@rs1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.100.208]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA11800 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 16:05:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pc1.scs-koeln.de ([134.95.30.183]) by rs1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA20613 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 01:05:16 +0200 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970506230403.006c4860@mail.rrz.uni-koeln.de> X-Sender: afr04@mail.rrz.uni-koeln.de X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 01:04:03 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Ralf Luettgen Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk subscribe freebsd-questions From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 17:40:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA16612 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 17:40:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onyx.interactive.net (root@onyx.interactive.net [208.192.224.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16605 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 17:40:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ithaca (root@host016.nyc.interactive.net [208.192.234.116]) by onyx.interactive.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA19262 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 20:40:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ithaca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ithaca (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA04099 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 20:37:54 -0400 Message-Id: <199705070037.UAA04099@ithaca> X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.7 05/05/96 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: PPP Dial Out w/ FreeBSD 2.1.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 20:37:53 -0400 From: "Christopher J. Booth" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Could someone direct me to clear information on setting up my ppp-secrets file? When I run "ppp" as per the information in the tutorial I get an error message after "dial" to the effect that it can't find anything in ppp-secrets. I am able to dial out with minicom, but would like to get to my PPP account in FreeBSD. BTW, quiting from minicom once connected hasn't yet worked for me. Thanks in advance! -- ________________________________ Chris Booth cbooth@onyx.interactive.net From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 17:41:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA16677 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 17:41:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.cdrom.com [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16670 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 17:41:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ces04.cessys.com ([207.91.147.67]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA26740 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 17:40:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ces04.cessys.com by ces04.cessys.com (NTMail 3.02.10) with ESMTP id la006043 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 19:44:03 -0500 Received: by ces01.cessys.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BC5A55.DAD0FAA0@ces01.cessys.com>; Tue, 6 May 1997 19:44:04 -0500 Message-ID: <01BC5A55.DAD0FAA0@ces01.cessys.com> From: "James F. Schmidt" To: "support@freebsd.com" Subject: Compiling the Kernel Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 19:43:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Info: CES Systems Internet Services Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I wanted to setup Quotas which requires re-compiling the kernel. I was successful in doing this, but is it really necessary to re-determine all of the device settings if you already have a working kernel? When I installed FreeBSD, the setup program did a great job..can't I somehow Migrate these settings and then compile??? Frustrated!!!! Jim ------------------------------------------------- James F. Schmidt CES Systems, Inc. jschmidt@cessys.com www.cessys.com Innovative Electronic & Internet Solutions From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 18:10:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA18202 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 18:10:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyber2.servtech.com (root@cyber2.servtech.com [199.1.22.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA18197 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 18:10:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jh2.tor.servtech.com (jh2.tor.servtech.com [204.181.8.196]) by cyber2.servtech.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA29817 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 21:10:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <336FD6D7.167EB0E7@servtech.com> Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 21:11:51 -0400 From: Jen and Luke X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-970502-SNAP i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: screen trembling References: <199705060058.UAA29910@lakes.water.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk My screen has been trembling too , only in when not in X , whenever there should be a keybell the screen flashes, and often when cpu intensive things are running, the screen looks like its trembling. not sure why though Luke From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 18:50:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA20923 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 18:50:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dg-rtp.dg.com (dg-rtp.rtp.dg.com [128.222.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA20902 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 18:50:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by dg-rtp.dg.com (5.4R3.10/dg-rtp-v02) id AA28328; Tue, 6 May 1997 21:50:08 -0400 Received: from ponds by dg-rtp.dg.com.rtp.dg.com; Tue, 6 May 1997 21:50 EDT Received: from lakes.water.net (lakes [10.0.0.3]) by ponds.water.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA23300; Tue, 6 May 1997 20:44:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rivers@localhost) by lakes.water.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id UAA02209; Tue, 6 May 1997 20:51:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 20:51:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas David Rivers Message-Id: <199705070051.UAA02209@lakes.water.net> To: ponds!FreeBSD.ORG!freebsd-questions, ponds!panix.com!lsmarso Subject: Re: screen trembling Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Actually, I'm seeing screen trembling on my Chicony/Chembook laptop. It's > a sweet machine, 200mz pentium, 13.3 inch active matrix screen. But I'm > getting screen trembling at times running under X; it's worse in some > sessions than others, and you can tell immediately from the start-up. I'd > guess it's an SVGA server problem, but I'm not sure. Do you have speakers/sound card in there... although I can't really imagine that makes a difference for an LCD display. I'd have to guess, since it's LCD, that there's some other underlying hardware problem there... - Dave Rivers - > > On Mon, May 05, 1997 at 08:58:33PM -0400, Thomas David Rivers wrote: > > > > > > Sounds like a problem I'm having, but I accidently erased the posting. > > > Would appreciate a copy. > > > -- > > > Larry S. Marso > > > lsmarso@panix.com > > > > > > > Depending on what type of trembling your seeing - I found that > > having my speakers in the case with the monitor (one of my monitors > > is a NEC M700, with built-in speakers) causes a trembling, or waver, > > when the volume is load enough... apparently, the speakers aren't > > as magnetically sealed as one would hope... > > > > You may have something close to the monitor that is causing this, > > a radio, disk drive, CD-ROM playper, etc... > > > > - Dave Rivers - > -- > Larry S. Marso > lsmarso@panix.com > From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 19:06:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA22902 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 19:06:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from comsun.chungnam.ac.kr (comsun.chungnam.ac.kr [168.188.48.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA22868 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 19:06:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from belldandy.chungnam.ac.kr (belldandy.chungnam.ac.kr [168.188.48.102]) by comsun.chungnam.ac.kr (8.6.9H1/8.9.11h) with SMTP id BAA01083; Wed, 7 May 1997 01:50:57 +0900 Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 01:50:57 +0900 From: Juyoung Park Message-Id: <199705061650.BAA01083@comsun.chungnam.ac.kr> To: undisclosed-recipients:; Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 19:06:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA22925 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 19:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from comsun.chungnam.ac.kr (comsun.chungnam.ac.kr [168.188.48.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA22898 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 19:06:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from belldandy.chungnam.ac.kr (belldandy.chungnam.ac.kr [168.188.48.102]) by comsun.chungnam.ac.kr (8.6.9H1/8.9.11h) with SMTP id BAA01080; Wed, 7 May 1997 01:49:56 +0900 Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 01:49:56 +0900 From: Juyoung Park Message-Id: <199705061649.BAA01080@comsun.chungnam.ac.kr> To: undisclosed-recipients:; Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 20:05:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA26540 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 20:05:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from po7.andrew.cmu.edu (PO7.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA26535; Tue, 6 May 1997 20:05:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from postman@localhost) by po7.andrew.cmu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.2) id XAA26985; Tue, 6 May 1997 23:05:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: via switchmail; Tue, 6 May 1997 23:05:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix10.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 6 May 1997 23:05:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix10.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 6 May 1997 23:05:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mms.4.60.Jun.27.1996.03.02.53.sun4.51.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix10.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4m.54 via MS.5.6.unix10.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4_51; Tue, 6 May 1997 23:05:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 23:05:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Yun-Ching Lee To: freebsd-questions@freefall.FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: MP3 player is released Cc: Zoltan Sebestyen , questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19970506095537.00631@dan.emsphone.com> References: <9705061258.AA27790@merlin.ukrv.de> <19970506095537.00631@dan.emsphone.com> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Excerpts from internet.computing.freebsd-questions: 6-May-97 Re: MP3 player is released by Dan Nelson@emsphone.com > In case anyone else is interested, there are two other MPEG-audio > players that I know of. > [...] I have one more to add to the list. splay v0.3: Plays mpeg (layer 3 and others?) and wave files Relatively high CPU utilization (70%) on my Cyrix 6x86 133MHz (P166) I got it from Linux directory on sunsite. It came with a Pentium-optimized Linux binary, but neither applies to me. Thanks for the information on the other two players. I will check them out. -- Yun-Ching (Allen) Lee ycl+@cmu.edu "There is no such thing as a good influence... All influence is immoral." -- Lord Henry Wotton From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 21:16:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA29588 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 21:16:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bloke.statsci.com (bloke.statsci.com [206.63.206.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA29580 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 21:16:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by bloke.statsci.com (/\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.3 #3) id m0wOy9F-000QdnC; Tue, 6 May 97 21:16 PDT Received: (from scott@localhost) by one.sabami.seaslug.org (8.6.11/8.6.12) id VAA00696; Tue, 6 May 1997 21:14:50 -0700 Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 21:14:50 -0700 Message-Id: <199705070414.VAA00696@one.sabami.seaslug.org> From: Scott Blachowicz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Misc questions upon 2.1.5 -> 2.2.1 upgrade Reply-to: scott@statsci.com Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi- I just upgraded and had a couple of questions... 1) I regenerated my kernel (using /usr/src off of the "live" 2nd CD) and now 'uname -a' says I'm running 2.2-STABLE instead of some 2.2.1 variant. Presumably, it's OK, but I thought I'd mention it. 2) I'd added firewall support into my previous kernel to play with it and into the new one as well. It looks like the upgrade procedure didn't treat /etc/rc.firewall as a site-customizeable file (putting a new copy in /etc/upgrade/, overwriting previous version). 3) My first try at the upgrade dropped me into the partition editor screen asking me to fill in my old mount points. Is there any reasonable way that those could've been filled in for me? I had them written down on a piece of paper for the second try... Thanx, -- Scott Blachowicz Ph: 206/283-8802x240 Mathsoft (Data Analysis Products Div) 1700 Westlake Ave N #500 scott@statsci.com Seattle, WA USA 98109 Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 22:23:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA02235 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 22:23:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zoom.bga.com (root@zoom.realtime.net [205.238.128.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA02229 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 22:23:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from roost.com (apm1-90.realtime.net [205.238.146.90]) by zoom.bga.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA04382 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 00:23:25 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 00:26:19 -0500 (CDT) From: John Kenagy X-Sender: jktheowl@roost.com To: questions freebsd Subject: upgrades, partitions, passwords and other light stuff Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings! If this repeats a recent posting, bear with me, I'm not sure it got sent as will become apparent. Got my 2.2.1R CD and upgraded from 2.1.5. The new software is doing well and is nice and stable - good job! The upgrade itself was not the method I wanted though. I wanted to be able to ftp from a second machine that has the CDROM in it, from the drive itself. It runs windowsNT 3.5 (hey it was free, the guy wanted me to buy it and finally gave it to me when I laughed) and I have it connected via some NE2000 cards to the FreeBSD machine. The freebsd and NT machines connect well enough for Netscape on the NT side to browse the freebsd document database with Apache as the server. Ftp also works both ways. What I cannot do is use /stand/sysinstall or the boot floppy (freebsd install) to ftp directly to the CDROM. It will go and get the package index as if you are going to install packages, ports, etc. But gives the message "unable to fetch ..." when the "install" button is clicked. The only way the upgrade worked was to use the /dos partition on the freebsd machine. I ftpd all the dists I needed there and ran the install. I want to eliminate that partition and have only freebsd on that machine. The install info and the documentation suggests I can also use a freebsd file system as my upgrade source. The same machine as the upgrade target? I have two drives in it with plenty of space on the second drive. It is one file system called /usr2 (imaginative, yes?). Can I put all of the dists there and point at it as the install source after repartitioning (with whats best?) and using the boot floppy? Any help with the ftp question would also be welcome as I would like an alternative path. The only real problem I had with the upgrade was that none of my passwords worked after the upgrade!? I had to reinstall *and* reset the root password to log on to the new operating system, then remove and readd all users. the password files seemed to have been preserved by the upgrade but I do not know what I missed to have no password work. Comments? (be nice) OK, I'll shut up now. The team deserves a big bravo for really good work! This is how it is supposed to work. Thanks, John From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 23:22:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA04576 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 23:22:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inet-tsb.toshiba.co.jp (inet-tsb.toshiba.co.jp [202.33.96.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA04570 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 23:22:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tis2.tis.toshiba.co.jp by inet-tsb.toshiba.co.jp (8.6.12+2.5W/3.3W9-04/12/95) id PAA07596; Wed, 7 May 1997 15:22:02 +0900 Received: from mx.toshiba.co.jp (mx) by tis2.tis.toshiba.co.jp (5.67+1.6W/3.3W9-TOSHIBA-SERVER) id AA03688; Wed, 7 May 97 15:22:01 JST Received: from is.eec.toshiba.co.jp by toshiba.co.jp (8.7.1+2.6Wbeta4/3.3W9-TOSHIBA-GLOBAL SERVER) id PAA25233; Wed, 7 May 1997 15:22:00 +0900 (JST) Received: from hdq3210.eec.toshiba.co.jp ([133.199.32.10]) by is.eec.toshiba.co.jp (8.8.5/3.5W) with SMTP id PAA28324 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 15:19:59 +0900 (JST) Received: from nanosya ([202.48.232.79]) by hdq3210.eec.toshiba.co.jp (4.1/6.4J.6-R1) id AA18922; Wed, 7 May 97 15:20:41 JST Message-Id: <33701F32.3E99@hdq3210.eec.toshiba.co.jp> Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 15:21:14 +0900 From: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCMEtGIxsoSiAbJEJDaUsuGyhK?= Reply-To: tadakuni@2lji.hon.most.toshiba.co.jp X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold [ja] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Question_MAIL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk $B$O$8$a$^$7$F!*(J $B0KF#$H8@$$$^$9!#(J $B%O!<%I%&%'%"!u%M%C%H%o!<%/$N9=@.$K4X$7$F(J $Be5-$N9=@.$K(JFreeBSD$B$rF3F~$7(J $B%2!<%H%&%'%$%5!<%P$NMM$KMxMQ$7$?$$$N$G$9$,(J $B>e Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA04733 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 23:27:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA04728 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 23:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-134 [207.14.72.134]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA08305 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 21:24:05 -0800 Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 22:17:43 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: freebsd-questions Subject: test Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk if [ $1 != "-a" -a $1 != "-b" -a $1 != "-p" ]; then blah; blah; blah; fi ------------------------------------------------------------------------- shouldn't test be able to handle this, for simple option checking? i think "test" gets confused and chokes because it thinks "-a", "-b", "-p" are "test" options. i doesn't seem like there is any way to "quote" out the options i'd like to test so that test doesn't think they are its own ... is there? From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 23:30:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA04956 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 23:30:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA04947 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 23:30:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-134 [207.14.72.134]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA08320 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 21:26:57 -0800 Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 22:20:35 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: freebsd-questions Subject: getopts Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk can anyone tell me what the purpose of the sh builtin "getopts" is? it doesn't seem to be as functional as the program getopt(1). why would i want to use it (getopts)? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 23:43:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA05557 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 23:43:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za (pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za [163.195.219.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA05552 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 23:43:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za (localhost.nanoteq.co.za [127.0.0.1]) by pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA25894; Wed, 7 May 1997 08:44:02 GMT Message-Id: <199705070844.IAA25894@pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za> To: "Scott Stafford" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Required Space In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 06 May 1997 12:08:26 EST." <199705061708.MAA14175@mail.mankato.msus.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 08:44:02 +0000 From: Pierre-Andre van Leeuwen Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi, > > How much space is required to install FreeBSD? I have an internal Zip SCSI > that I would like to put it on, or will I have to create a new partition on > a different drive? My FreeBSD takes up about 400MB and I don't even have the sources. If you plan to run Xwindows (like most of us do), you have to know that it takes up a lott of space, and so does most of the x-apps. ( Xemacs is 40 MB ). It is possible to install it in only a couple of megs but that would be very frustrating because of a lack of nice toys :) > I've also heard that to do a tripple boot with Win NT4.0 and 95 that I > should install FreeBSD first. Is this the case? No, install FreeBSD last. It's not really neccessary, but NT and 95 will ovewrite your MBR if you're not careful, and then you will need to fix it again. You'll have to make sure about the issues involving NT's bootloader and FBSD booteasy as it is something which I have avoided up to now. cheers pierre -- Pierre-Andre van Leeuwen Electronic Engineer Powered By FreeBSD ******************************** * Nanoteq (Pty) Ltd. * * Specialists in data security * * E-mail : pvl@nanoteq.com * * Ph : +27 (0)12 665-1338 * * http://www.nanoteq.co.za * ******************************** From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 23:57:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA06123 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 23:57:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA06118 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 23:57:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-134 [207.14.72.134]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA08451 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 21:53:45 -0800 Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 22:47:23 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: freebsd-questions Subject: test Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk according to test(1), (expression) should evaluate to true if expression is true, just as ! expression evaluates to false if expression is false. but the () cause syntax problems for me, ie, if test (1 = 1); then echo YES!; fi > syntax error: expecting ")" ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 23:59:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA06208 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 23:59:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (gatekeeper.barcode.co.il [192.116.93.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA06203 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 23:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (8.8.5/8.6.12) id JAA05317; Wed, 7 May 1997 09:56:49 +0300 (IDT) X-Authentication-Warning: gatekeeper.barcode.co.il: smap set sender to using -f Received: from localhost.barcode.co.il(127.0.0.1) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il via smap (V1.3) id sma005311; Wed May 7 09:56:19 1997 Message-ID: <337027DD.51F@barcode.co.il> Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 09:57:33 +0300 From: Nadav Eiron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: scott@statsci.com CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Misc questions upon 2.1.5 -> 2.2.1 upgrade References: <199705070414.VAA00696@one.sabami.seaslug.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Scott Blachowicz wrote: > > Hi- > > I just upgraded and had a couple of questions... > > 1) I regenerated my kernel (using /usr/src off of the "live" 2nd CD) and > now 'uname -a' says I'm running 2.2-STABLE instead of some 2.2.1 > variant. Presumably, it's OK, but I thought I'd mention it. > > 2) I'd added firewall support into my previous kernel to play with it and > into the new one as well. It looks like the upgrade procedure didn't > treat /etc/rc.firewall as a site-customizeable file (putting a new copy > in /etc/upgrade/, overwriting previous version). Yeah, it's a well known oversight of the installation program. I've recently seen it mentioned on -hackers, so maybe it'll change... > > 3) My first try at the upgrade dropped me into the partition editor screen > asking me to fill in my old mount points. Is there any reasonable way > that those could've been filled in for me? I had them written down on > a piece of paper for the second try... > > Thanx, > -- > Scott Blachowicz Ph: 206/283-8802x240 Mathsoft (Data Analysis Products Div) > 1700 Westlake Ave N #500 > scott@statsci.com Seattle, WA USA 98109 > Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org From owner-freebsd-questions Tue May 6 23:59:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA06259 for questions-outgoing; Tue, 6 May 1997 23:59:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.cdrom.com [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA06254 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 23:59:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (gatekeeper.barcode.co.il [192.116.93.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA00874 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 23:59:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (8.8.5/8.6.12) id JAA05347; Wed, 7 May 1997 09:57:48 +0300 (IDT) X-Authentication-Warning: gatekeeper.barcode.co.il: smap set sender to using -f Received: from localhost.barcode.co.il(127.0.0.1) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il via smap (V1.3) id sma005345; Wed May 7 09:57:41 1997 Message-ID: <3370282C.7236@barcode.co.il> Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 09:58:52 +0300 From: Nadav Eiron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Nelson CC: support@freebsd.com Subject: Re: Drive change References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Richard Nelson wrote: > > I changed drives from my HTTP server to another box and now BSD will not > boot:( I was told if I could edit my /etc/fstab file to the correct things > that it would work, but I can not get an editor up to edit the fstab file. > Please help! Thanks in advance! Try using the fixit floppy. You may also be able to *manually* mount your /usr partition and then you'll be able to use things off /usr/bin (such as vi) to edit your file. > Richard Nelson > TECH Director > Mountain Grove R-III Schools > rjn103s@mgr3.k12.mo.us > Voice 417 926-3177 > Fax 417 926-3054 > > FreeBSD is GOOD STUFF! > > And BSD is Very Cool:) Nadav From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 00:01:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA06442 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 00:01:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (gatekeeper.barcode.co.il [192.116.93.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA06431 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 00:01:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (8.8.5/8.6.12) id JAA05354; Wed, 7 May 1997 09:58:48 +0300 (IDT) X-Authentication-Warning: gatekeeper.barcode.co.il: smap set sender to using -f Received: from localhost.barcode.co.il(127.0.0.1) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il via smap (V1.3) id sma005352; Wed May 7 09:58:45 1997 Message-ID: <3370286F.6FFE@barcode.co.il> Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 09:59:59 +0300 From: Nadav Eiron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rajesha@ct-yardley.com CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, rakeshs@ct-yardley.com Subject: Re: ftp daemon References: <199705062201.SAA18737@boris.theeddy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk rajesha@ct-yardley.com wrote: > > This is in regards to a problem in the ftp daemon supplied with the > FreeBSD (Rel 2.1.7). The problem is: > > 1) Suppose I logged in as one of the designated ftp user. The ftp > daemon would place the user in this directory ('/home/ftp/user') > Then suppose if he did a 'cd ..', he/she would be at /home/ftp' > Then he/she reissued the 'cd..' command thus placing them > in '/home' directory (on my system, /home -> /usr/home) > > 2) If an anonymous ftp user logs in, he is not able to go beyond > the '/home/ftp' even if he tries 'cd ..' two or more times. > > This would be a security risk if an ftp users other than > anonymous can get to system areas through ftp!!. Are there any other > settings that need to be set in the ftp resource files > > I would appreciate if you could give some hints or pointers regarding > these issues!! Use wu-ftpd. It's in the ports/packages collection and has a zillion options, including the option to chroot when doing standard logins (with user names). > > Rajesh Acharya > Cybertech Intl, Inc. Nadav From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 00:03:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA06551 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 00:03:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.cdrom.com [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA06546 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 00:03:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (gatekeeper.barcode.co.il [192.116.93.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA00904 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 00:03:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (8.8.5/8.6.12) id KAA05368; Wed, 7 May 1997 10:01:18 +0300 (IDT) X-Authentication-Warning: gatekeeper.barcode.co.il: smap set sender to using -f Received: from localhost.barcode.co.il(127.0.0.1) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il via smap (V1.3) id sma005366; Wed May 7 10:01:12 1997 Message-ID: <33702902.4D33@barcode.co.il> Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 10:02:26 +0300 From: Nadav Eiron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "James F. Schmidt" CC: "support@freebsd.com" Subject: Re: Compiling the Kernel References: <01BC5A55.DAD0FAA0@ces01.cessys.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk James F. Schmidt wrote: > > I wanted to setup Quotas which requires re-compiling the kernel. I was successful > in doing this, but is it really necessary to re-determine all of the device settings if > you already have a working kernel? > > When I installed FreeBSD, the setup program did a great job..can't I somehow > Migrate these settings and then compile??? Well, if it did a great job then there's almost nothing to do. If you've never edited your kernel config file, simply start out with the GENERIC kernel, and comment out things you don't need. It will save you both memory and boot time (probing for devices you don't have, especially IDE disks can be a very length process). The installation program itself does almost *nothing* to the kernel. If it works for you, then you're mostly using the defaults. > > Frustrated!!!! > > Jim > ------------------------------------------------- > James F. Schmidt CES Systems, Inc. > jschmidt@cessys.com www.cessys.com > Innovative Electronic & Internet Solutions Nadav From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 00:51:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA08927 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 00:51:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.36.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA08922 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 00:51:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bragg by adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au (5.65/AndrewR-930902) id AA05506; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:21:35 +0930 From: Kristian Kennaway Received: by bragg; (5.65/1.1.8.2/05Aug95-0227PM) id AA19767; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:21:35 +0930 Message-Id: <9705070751.AA19767@bragg> Subject: m3socks and cvsup problem To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Questions) Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 17:21:34 +0930 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to get m3socks to work with cvsup through my socks 5 proxy, but it keeps dying with the following: [morden] 17:21 /usr/share/examples/cvsup m3socks cvsup -gL2 stable-supfile Parsing supfile "stable-supfile" Looking up address of cvsup.au.FreeBSD.org Connecting to cvsup.au.FreeBSD.org Unable to connect to a server: Undefined error: 0 Cannot connect to cvsup.au.FreeBSD.org: TCP.Unexpected: 0 Will retry at 17:25:56 My m3socks.conf is: domain adelaide.edu.au nameserver 129.127.12.4,129.127.40.3,129.127.28.4 findserver No direct *.adelaide.edu.au sockd @=bragg.physics.adelaide.edu.au 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Since I also admin the socks proxy, I happen to know it's not even connecting to that at all. Neither can I get netscape to talk to that proxy, when I remove all my proxy entries apart from bragg.physics.adelaide.edu.au port 1080. However, other stuff like rtelnet, socksified ncftp, rping, rtraceroute, etc, work fine. My libsocks.conf is as follows: noproxy - 129.127. - - socks5 - - - - 129.127.36.34 In my environment I have set: SOCKS_SERVER=bragg.physics.adelaide.edu.au:1080 SOCKS5_SERVER=bragg.physics.adelaide.edu.au:1080 If anyone can help with this, I'd be most grateful..I couldnt seem to find any references to m3socks in the mailing list archives. Kris From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 01:00:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA09500 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 01:00:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pericles.aipo.gov.au (pericles.aipo.gov.au [202.14.186.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA09487 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 01:00:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Stanley.Hopcroft@aipo.gov.au Received: (from smap@localhost) by pericles.aipo.gov.au (8.8.5/8.6.12) id SAA28970 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 18:56:09 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: pericles.aipo.gov.au: smap set sender to using -f Received: from notes.aipo.gov.au(192.3.1.11) by pericles.aipo.gov.au via smap (V1.3) id sma028968; Wed May 7 18:56:05 1997 Received: by notes.aipo.gov.au(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.05b4 (287.3 12-16-1996)) id 4A256490.002B6E15 ; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:54:22 +1000 X-Lotus-FromDomain: INTERNET To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <4A256490.002B6CE3.00@notes.aipo.gov.au> Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 17:27:29 +1000 Subject: Problems with Soundblaster/CR-563 & FreeBSD2.2.1_RELEASE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear Ladies and Gentlemen, I a writing to ask your help with using a Creative Labs CR-563-B CD-ROM connected with a 40 pin ribbon cable to the Panasonic connector of a Soundblaster 16 card. When I boot the PC with the 2.2.1-RELEASE boot floppy, the probe messages report matcd not found at 0x230 (or 0x220, 240, 250 260, 270 280 when I try changing the parameters in 'visual' mode). The Soundblaster card also has connectors marked IDE, MITZUMI and SONY but has no jumpers for port address. I have not used it with an other OS, so while I think its OK I can't be sure. Since the problem PC already has FreeBSD2.1.6-RELEASE on it, I built a kernel with a "device matcd ..." line. When this kernel booted it reported matcd not found at 0x230. Thank you, S Hopcroft Australian Industrial Property Organisation From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 01:19:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA10182 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 01:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.neti.hu (lemle@main.neti.hu [195.228.2.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA10176 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 01:19:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (lemle@localhost) by main.neti.hu (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA01440; Wed, 7 May 1997 10:18:33 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 10:18:31 +0200 (MET DST) From: Lemle Geza To: UTTT cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Tacacs for Freebsd In-Reply-To: <336F8309.60E3@mail.internet.com.mx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, On Tue, 6 May 1997, UTTT wrote: > Do you know where can i get tacacs for my freebsd system ? > > thank you >From your router distributor. I use TACACS+, it is come from my cisco distributor. Geza From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 02:56:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA13601 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 02:56:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home.au.ac.th (root@home.au.ac.th [202.6.101.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13566 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 02:55:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from deanet (anek@cheetah.wnet.net.th [203.152.1.67]) by home.au.ac.th (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12344 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:56:12 +0700 (TST) Message-Id: <199705070956.QAA12344@home.au.ac.th> From: "Pete Antakon" To: Subject: Question Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 16:55:34 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, My name is Pete, and i live in Thailand. this is my first time of thinking of using FreeBSD. I want to test it first. I cannot get a CD in Thailand so i have to download from ftp.freebsd.org. I got 1 problem that i need to ask you. When i went into directory /pub/freebsd/3.0-CURRENT/packages/ and i found out that the file that is in directory /pub/freebsd/3.0-CURRENT/packages/all are the same with the in one in ..3.0-CURRENT/pacages/games or what ever. Now i'm starting to download /pub/freebsd/3.0-CURRENT/all. Will i be able to install from it? or i need the files in seperate directories. my e-mail is pete@bangkok.com thanx pete From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 04:08:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA16931 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 04:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (gatekeeper.barcode.co.il [192.116.93.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA16919 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 04:08:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (8.8.5/8.6.12) id OAA06376; Wed, 7 May 1997 14:05:53 +0300 (IDT) X-Authentication-Warning: gatekeeper.barcode.co.il: smap set sender to using -f Received: from localhost.barcode.co.il(127.0.0.1) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il via smap (V1.3) id sma006372; Wed May 7 14:05:38 1997 Message-ID: <33706249.6D9D@barcode.co.il> Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 14:06:49 +0300 From: Nadav Eiron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pete Antakon CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Question References: <199705070956.QAA12344@home.au.ac.th> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Pete Antakon wrote: > > Hello, > My name is Pete, and i live in Thailand. this is my first time of > thinking of using FreeBSD. I want to test it first. I cannot get a CD in > Thailand so i have to download from ftp.freebsd.org. > I got 1 problem that i need to ask you. When i went into directory > /pub/freebsd/3.0-CURRENT/packages/ and i found out that the file that is > in directory /pub/freebsd/3.0-CURRENT/packages/all are the same with the in > one in ..3.0-CURRENT/pacages/games or what ever. > Now i'm starting to download /pub/freebsd/3.0-CURRENT/all. Will i be > able to install from it? or i need the files in seperate directories. Yes, but take a look at the handbook's installation section first. It is highly unlikely you will need all of packages. It is quite big, and you'll probably need just a handful of the files in it. Anyhow, you'll be better off having the basic system running first, and only then worry about packegs. Also, you should consider if running 3.0-current (or a snapshot) is the right thing for you to do. For a first installation you'll probably be better off with something more reliable and better documented than current (again, read the relevant section in teh handbook for details on what 3.0-current is). > > my e-mail is pete@bangkok.com > > thanx > pete Nadav From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 04:16:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA17131 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 04:16:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA17126 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 04:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Wed, 7 May 1997 7:15:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12816; Wed, 7 May 97 07:15:52 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA01782; Wed, 7 May 1997 07:15:15 -0400 Message-Id: <19970507071515.49168@ct.picker.com> Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 07:15:15 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: "R. Luettgen" Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I'm missing lsdev References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: ; from R. Luettgen on Tue, May 06, 1997 at 06:49:22PM +0200 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk R. Luettgen: |What happen with lsdev in RELEASE 2.2.1? |Is there a new utility to list devices? I miss having that command as well. Think I first noticed it around 2.2-ALPHA. It was real handy for doing device-specific configuration in startup and shell startup scripts. I've resorted to the ugly: if dmesg | grep '^[0-9]*:'; then approach. Randall Hopper From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 04:20:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA17271 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 04:20:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wired.ctech.ac.za (wired.ctech.ac.za [155.238.4.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA17247 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 04:20:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jacques@localhost) by wired.ctech.ac.za (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA20363 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 7 May 1997 13:19:42 +0200 (SAT) From: Jacques Hugo Message-Id: <199705071119.NAA20363@wired.ctech.ac.za> Subject: isode-7 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 13:19:42 +0200 (SAT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25 PGP3 *ALPHA*] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi there ... I'm looking for the source code of isode-7, and if possible, the FreeBSD patches to compile it successfully. Thanks. -Jacques From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 05:19:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA19456 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 05:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.tseinc.com (gatekeeper.tseinc.com [206.114.206.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA19451 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 05:19:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by gatekeeper.tseinc.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) id HAA06809 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 07:19:04 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199705071219.HAA06809@gatekeeper.tseinc.com> X-Authentication-Warning: gatekeeper.tseinc.com: nobody set sender to using -f Received: from unknown(192.168.1.12) by gatekeeper.tseinc.com via smap (V1.3) id sma006806; Wed May 7 07:18:54 1997 From: "Jay L. West" To: Subject: Question on security check output... Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 07:18:54 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This just popped up in my daily security check output email to root. I've never seen this one before and wanted to see what it meant. Can anyone offer an explanation? ---start snip--- 80a80 > -r-xr-sr-x 1 bin kmem 12288 Jul 16 21:34:55 1996 /usr/sbin/trpt 83d82 < -r-xr-sr-x 1 bin kmem 12288 Jul 16 21:34:55 1996 /usr/sbin/trpt ---end snip--- This is definitely new. Any ideas? Jay West TSE ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Unix *IS* user friendly; It's just selective about who it's friends are! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 06:01:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA20833 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 06:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from caliban.dihelix.com (caliban.dihelix.com [198.180.136.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA20825 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 06:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from langfod@localhost) by caliban.dihelix.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) id DAA20007 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 7 May 1997 03:01:27 -1000 (HST) Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 03:01:27 -1000 (HST) From: David Langford Message-Id: <199705071301.DAA20007@caliban.dihelix.com> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: How to merge quota information? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Any thoughts on how one might merge quota information from two drives to a single partition quota? Thanks, -David Langford langfod@dihelix.com From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 06:12:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA21354 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 06:12:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cs.iastate.edu (cs.iastate.edu [129.186.3.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA21349 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 06:12:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sunfire.cs.iastate.edu (sunfire.cs.iastate.edu [129.186.3.46]) by cs.iastate.edu (8.7.4/8.7.1) with ESMTP id IAA23131; Wed, 7 May 1997 08:12:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (ghelmer@localhost) by sunfire.cs.iastate.edu (8.7.4/8.7.1) with SMTP id IAA22231; Wed, 7 May 1997 08:12:40 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: sunfire.cs.iastate.edu: ghelmer owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 08:12:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Guy Helmer To: "Jay L. West" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Question on security check output... In-Reply-To: <199705071219.HAA06809@gatekeeper.tseinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 7 May 1997, Jay L. West wrote: > This just popped up in my daily security check output email to > root. I've never seen this one before and wanted to see what it > meant. Can anyone offer an explanation? > > ---start snip--- > 80a80 > > -r-xr-sr-x 1 bin kmem 12288 Jul 16 21:34:55 1996 /usr/sbin/trpt > 83d82 > < -r-xr-sr-x 1 bin kmem 12288 Jul 16 21:34:55 1996 /usr/sbin/trpt > ---end snip--- > > This is definitely new. Any ideas? It's an artifact of the way xargs breaks up lists of files and feeds them to ls, and then ls arbitrarily defines column widths as needed for a particular list of files. In this case, /usr/sbin/trpt apparently is in a different group of files (thanks to xargs) than it previously was, and ls apparently didn't need as much space for the file size field (due to some other "large" file) as it did before. Current /etc/security scripts have a "-b" in the diff command line which should ignore this change in whitespace. However, it may be even more disconcerting to an administrator because, despite the "-b" option, the administrator will see a message "$host setuid diffs:" followed by no output when this effect occurs :-( Guy Guy Helmer, Computer Science Grad Student, Iowa State - ghelmer@cs.iastate.edu http://www.cs.iastate.edu/~ghelmer From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 06:37:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA22423 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 06:37:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ozemail.com.au (server3.syd.mail.ozemail.net [203.108.7.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA22414 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 06:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oznet07.ozemail.com.au (oznet07.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.122]) by ozemail.com.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id XAA20530; Wed, 7 May 1997 23:37:40 +1000 (EST) Received: from rlyon.mynet.au (slmel3p61.ozemail.com.au [203.108.201.77]) by oznet07.ozemail.com.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA19445; Wed, 7 May 1997 23:37:36 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 23:34:32 +1000 (EST) From: Richard Lyon X-Sender: rlyon@rlyon.mynet.au To: b & Jill cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: <336E5945.4BD7233A@gte.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 5 May 1997, b & Jill wrote: > hi.. > after hearing about how great freebsd was, i decided to try it. > so far i've had nothing but troubles in getting it to install, from the > install script not > really working, to the xf86config file being lost, to just a general not > workingness (?) > of the whole thing... OK... How were you trying to do the install? Were you using floppies, MS-DOS partition, CD-ROM or trying FTP? Which version of FBSD are you trying to install? Did you use the novice installation option? An example xf86config file is provided. You then generate your actual config file, based on the actual setup you want. The installation of X11 under linux is similar to that used for FBSD. Which version of XFree were you attempting to install? Have you read the README's in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/doc? Did you modify XF86Config.eg? > check out the os and how it worked...i figured that with 1.5GB i > wouldn't have any What distributions, ports and packages were you trying to install? Most people find 1.5 GB more than sufficient. I'm runnig X11, the usual programs like netscape communicator, emacs, octave, XFig, Tex, Latex and pine all in a few hundred MB. This was all installed from floppy disks (I download files onto these at work). I think any knowledge you picked up in LINUX is useful when setting up FBSD. Sure some things are different, but providing you do a bit of reading there should be no problems. Do things a single step at a time and make sure you understand what is happening. Yes this means it will take you a couple of days to complete the install, but you will then be very happy with the result. Look at what applications and source code you want to install. It is a bit wasteful to install absolutely everything. As a matter of interest, what LINUX distribution did you install? From my experience installing DEBIAN is about as hard as installing FBSD, but takes longer due to the larger number of packages that must be installed to get a reasonable system. The end result is about the same. To get a good response from this newsgroup you need to be a lot more specific. Start with your first problem. Read the manual and mail archives at www.freebsd.org. People will help out when you give them exact details of a problem. Have fun ..... Richard. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 06:47:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA22928 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 06:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tu.kielce.pl (andrzej@eden.tu.kielce.pl [193.59.4.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA22915 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 06:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from andrzej@localhost) by tu.kielce.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3/ts-ugUA.960515) id PAA26951; Wed, 7 May 1997 15:46:13 +0200 (MET DST) From: Andrzej Szydlo Message-Id: <199705071346.PAA26951@tu.kielce.pl> Subject: Re: Question To: pete@bangkok.com (Pete Antakon) Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 15:46:13 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199705070956.QAA12344@home.au.ac.th> from "Pete Antakon" at May 7, 97 04:55:34 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > > I got 1 problem that i need to ask you. When i went into directory > /pub/freebsd/3.0-CURRENT/packages/ and i found out that the file that is > in directory /pub/freebsd/3.0-CURRENT/packages/all are the same with the in > one in ..3.0-CURRENT/pacages/games or what ever. Files in subdiretories (i.e. games) are in fact links to files in ./All directory (=they are the same). > Now i'm starting to download /pub/freebsd/3.0-CURRENT/all. Will i be > able to install from it? or i need the files in seperate directories. Yes, but may have to use pkg_add utility to add them instead of adding using menu. Hope this helps. Andrzej From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 06:54:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA23376 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 06:54:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from websgi (websgi.icomnet.com [206.156.67.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA23367 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 06:54:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from optiplex by websgi via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) for id JAA25087; Wed, 7 May 1997 09:54:22 -0400 Message-ID: <33708AAC.1B07@icomnet.com> Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 09:59:08 -0400 From: Doug Kite X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD as a router Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am having problems getting routing going on FreeBSD 2.1.5. I have gateway=yes in my /etc/sysconfig, and routed is running. Below are the output of netstat -rn and ifconfig -a. What else do I need to do? Thanks for your help. Doug netstat -rn: Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 0 lo0 192.168.2 link#2 UC 0 0 192.168.5 link#3 UC 0 0 ifconfig -a: lp0: flags=8810 mtu 1500 ep0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.2.13 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.2.255 ether 00:20:af:05:44:8f ep1: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.5.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.5.255 ether 00:60:8c:cc:57:a8 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552 tun0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 07:12:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA24236 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 07:12:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server-a.cs.interbusiness.it (server-a.cs.interbusiness.it [151.99.250.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24200 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 07:11:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demo.mediacomm ([194.243.251.15]) by server-a.cs.interbusiness.it (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA10390 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:10:32 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970507130400.00668c24@email.mediacomm.it> X-Sender: sysop@email.mediacomm.it X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 15:04:00 +0200 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Tamburini Alessandro Subject: Equinox board & FreeBSD Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I am the sysop of an Italian ISP using Equinox boards ( SST-8I model ) and Galacticomm's Worldgroup 2.0 in order to permit our customers to connect to the Internet . Now I need to use a couple of these Equinox boards on a PC using FreeBSD Unix and TACACS to control users login . I asked Equinox support and they answered me they don't support FreeBSD but only SCO Unix and Xenix. Do you think it is possible to use the Equinox SCO driver on FreeBSD + SCO compatibility module ? What additional software I need in order to permit my customers to call a modem connected on an Equinox board port and to control their login to TACACS ? Any help will be greatly appreciated . Thanks in advance . Tamburini Alessandro. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 07:19:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA24612 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 07:19:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rkntws40casa ([207.137.172.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA24606; Wed, 7 May 1997 07:19:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970507071031.009a3ca0@ccsales.com> X-Sender: randyk@ccsales.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 07:10:31 -0700 To: b & Jill From: "Randy A. Katz" Subject: Re: HELP!!!!!!!!!!!! Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <336E5945.4BD7233A@gte.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Don't worry, people say stuff like that when they try to learn English also...just keep plugging and putting all the pieces together as they come (sometimes through guessing, sometimes through reading FAQs ... follow the stuff that VIEW.EXE puts on your screen)... Katz At 11:34 PM 5/7/97 +1000, Richard Lyon wrote: > > >On Mon, 5 May 1997, b & Jill wrote: > >> hi.. >> after hearing about how great freebsd was, i decided to try it. >> so far i've had nothing but troubles in getting it to install, from the >> install script not >> really working, to the xf86config file being lost, to just a general not >> workingness (?) >> of the whole thing... > >OK... How were you trying to do the install? Were you using floppies, >MS-DOS partition, CD-ROM or trying FTP? Which version of FBSD are you >trying to install? Did you use the novice installation option? > >An example xf86config file is provided. You then generate your actual >config file, based on the actual setup you want. The installation of X11 >under linux is similar to that used for FBSD. Which version of XFree were >you attempting to install? Have you read the README's in >/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/doc? Did you modify XF86Config.eg? > > >> check out the os and how it worked...i figured that with 1.5GB i >> wouldn't have any > >What distributions, ports and packages were you trying to install? Most >people find 1.5 GB more than sufficient. I'm runnig X11, the usual >programs like netscape communicator, emacs, octave, XFig, Tex, Latex and >pine all in a few hundred MB. This was all installed from floppy disks (I >download files onto these at work). > >I think any knowledge you picked up in LINUX is useful when setting up >FBSD. Sure some things are different, but providing you do a bit of >reading there should be no problems. Do things a single step at a time and >make sure you understand what is happening. Yes this means it will take >you a couple of days to complete the install, but you will then be very >happy with the result. Look at what applications and source code you want >to install. It is a bit wasteful to install absolutely everything. > >As a matter of interest, what LINUX distribution did you install? From my >experience installing DEBIAN is about as hard as installing FBSD, but >takes longer due to the larger number of packages that must be installed >to get a reasonable system. The end result is about the same. > >To get a good response from this newsgroup you need to be a lot more >specific. Start with your first problem. Read the manual and mail archives >at www.freebsd.org. People will help out when you give them exact details >of a problem. > >Have fun ..... > >Richard. > > > From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 09:08:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA29103 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 09:08:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (www.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29095 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 09:08:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id SAA16547; Wed, 7 May 1997 18:07:57 +0200 Received: (from zgabor@localhost) by CoDe.hu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA00750; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:49:41 +0200 (MET DST) From: Zahemszky Gabor Message-Id: <199705071449.QAA00750@CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: string or int? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 16:49:40 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: un_x@anchorage.net In-Reply-To: from Steve Howe at "May 6, 97 07:01:14 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > in regards to sh programming ... > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "man test" says to use != and = for strings, > and -ne and -eq for integers ... > > many times, they appear to be interchangable ... > what is the rule to determine whether your > value is a string or an integer? Your program. Are you waiting for a numeric value, or not. And what about this one: $ test 01 = 1 ; echo $? 1 $ test 01 -eq 1 ; echo $? 0 Bye, Gabor -- #!/bin/ksh Z='21N16I25C25E30, 40M30E33E25T15U!' ;IFS=' ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ ';set $Z;for i { [[ $i = ? ]]&&print $i&&break;[[ $i = ??? ]]&&j=$i&&i=${i%?};typeset -i40 i=8#$i;print -n ${i#???};[[ "$j" = ??? ]]&&print -n "${j#??} "&&j=;typeset +i i;};IFS=' 0123456789 ';set $Z;X=;for i { [[ $i = , ]]&&i=2;[[ $i = ?? ]]||typeset -l i;X="$X $i";typeset +l i;};print "$X" From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 09:08:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA29114 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 09:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (www.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29096 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 09:08:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id SAA16553; Wed, 7 May 1997 18:08:06 +0200 Received: (from zgabor@localhost) by CoDe.hu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA00712; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:40:15 +0200 (MET DST) From: Zahemszky Gabor Message-Id: <199705071440.QAA00712@CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: getopts To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 16:40:14 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: un_x@anchorage.net In-Reply-To: from Steve Howe at "May 6, 97 10:20:35 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > can anyone tell me what the purpose of the sh builtin "getopts" > is? it doesn't seem to be as functional as the program > getopt(1). why would i want to use it (getopts)? > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Because you cannot handle arguments with embedded spaces/tabs/newlines with getopt, but can it with getopts. Another one: it's a builtin utility, not an external, so a little bit more quick. Another one: POSIX. --- getopt --- set -- `getopt abc "$@"` while [ $1 != '--' ] ; do case "$1" in -a) echo A option ;; -b) echo B option ;; -c) echo C option ;; *) echo What is it? esac shift done echo $# "$@" --- getopts --- while getopts abc i ; do case "$i" in a) echo A option ;; b) echo B option ;; c) echo C option ;; *) echo What is it? ;; esac done shift $(( $OPTIND - 1 )) echo $# "$@" --- output --- Script started on Wed May 7 16:35:06 1997 # ksh lo1 -a -b -c -d 'a b c' getopt: illegal option -- d A option B option C option 4 -- a b c # ksh lo2 -a -b -c -d 'a b c' A option B option C option lo2: lo2[8]: -d: unknown option What is it? 1 a b c # Script done on Wed May 7 16:35:41 1997 ---- Bye, Gabor -- #!/bin/ksh Z='21N16I25C25E30, 40M30E33E25T15U!' ;IFS=' ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ ';set $Z;for i { [[ $i = ? ]]&&print $i&&break;[[ $i = ??? ]]&&j=$i&&i=${i%?};typeset -i40 i=8#$i;print -n ${i#???};[[ "$j" = ??? ]]&&print -n "${j#??} "&&j=;typeset +i i;};IFS=' 0123456789 ';set $Z;X=;for i { [[ $i = , ]]&&i=2;[[ $i = ?? ]]||typeset -l i;X="$X $i";typeset +l i;};print "$X" From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 09:08:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA29144 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 09:08:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (www.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29113 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 09:08:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id SAA16550; Wed, 7 May 1997 18:08:04 +0200 Received: (from zgabor@localhost) by CoDe.hu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA00767; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:53:58 +0200 (MET DST) From: Zahemszky Gabor Message-Id: <199705071453.QAA00767@CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: test To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 16:53:57 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: un_x@anchorage.net In-Reply-To: from Steve Howe at "May 6, 97 10:47:23 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > according to test(1), > > (expression) should evaluate to true if expression is true, > just as ! expression evaluates to false if expression is false. > > but the () cause syntax problems for me, ie, > > if test (1 = 1); then echo YES!; fi > > > syntax error: expecting ")" ... if test '(' 1 = 1 ')' ; then echo YES! ; fi The '(' is the command groupping character of the shell, and you have to escape it. Bye, Gabor -- #!/bin/ksh Z='21N16I25C25E30, 40M30E33E25T15U!' ;IFS=' ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ ';set $Z;for i { [[ $i = ? ]]&&print $i&&break;[[ $i = ??? ]]&&j=$i&&i=${i%?};typeset -i40 i=8#$i;print -n ${i#???};[[ "$j" = ??? ]]&&print -n "${j#??} "&&j=;typeset +i i;};IFS=' 0123456789 ';set $Z;X=;for i { [[ $i = , ]]&&i=2;[[ $i = ?? ]]||typeset -l i;X="$X $i";typeset +l i;};print "$X" From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 09:08:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA29173 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 09:08:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (www.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29147 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 09:08:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id SAA16561; Wed, 7 May 1997 18:08:11 +0200 Received: (from zgabor@localhost) by CoDe.hu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA00810; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:09:53 +0200 (MET DST) From: Zahemszky Gabor Message-Id: <199705071509.RAA00810@CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: tests To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 17:09:53 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: un_x@anchorage.net In-Reply-To: from Steve Howe at "May 6, 97 07:54:44 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > i guess this is the way "test"s work, in case > it gives anyone new to sh programming some troubles ... > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > all integers are strings, but only numeric strings are "integers". > > [ x ] only fails on the null string, ""(ascii 0), not on 0 (ascii 48). Yes. > any test, results in a 0(ascii 0) or 1(ascii 1). No. Any test result in a 0 status code or a non-0 status code. -- man test RETURN VALUES The test utility exits with one of the following values: 0 expression evaluated to true. 1 expression evaluated to false or expression was missing. >1 An error occurred. -- > ! x is only true if x is ""(ascii 0), so it may only be used to > test for the null string ("") and the result of a test([]). > > therefore, -gt, -lt, -ge, -le may only be used on numeric strings, > the "-" tests force a stringTOint conversion for the comparison, > is my guess. Yes, I think so. (conversion) > > and so -eq/= and -ne/!= may be used interchangably, as long as you > never use an alphabetic character in a -eq/-ne comparison, > since a stringTOint conversion must be done w/ -ne and -eq.. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > i'm "fairly" sure this is correct! It would be better to use string compare on strings, and numeric compare on numerals. As I've written in a previous letter: $ test 01 -eq 1 ; echo $? 0 $ test 01 = 1 ; echo $? 1 So = and -eq are NOT interchargeable! I think, when = returns true, than -eq should be, too, but on the other cases, it's not true. Bye, Gabor -- #!/bin/ksh Z='21N16I25C25E30, 40M30E33E25T15U!' ;IFS=' ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ ';set $Z;for i { [[ $i = ? ]]&&print $i&&break;[[ $i = ??? ]]&&j=$i&&i=${i%?};typeset -i40 i=8#$i;print -n ${i#???};[[ "$j" = ??? ]]&&print -n "${j#??} "&&j=;typeset +i i;};IFS=' 0123456789 ';set $Z;X=;for i { [[ $i = , ]]&&i=2;[[ $i = ?? ]]||typeset -l i;X="$X $i";typeset +l i;};print "$X" From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 09:08:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA29208 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 09:08:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (www.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29194 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 09:08:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id SAA16566; Wed, 7 May 1997 18:08:12 +0200 Received: (from zgabor@localhost) by CoDe.hu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA00837; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:17:13 +0200 (MET DST) From: Zahemszky Gabor Message-Id: <199705071517.RAA00837@CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: test To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 17:17:12 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: un_x@anchorage.net In-Reply-To: from Steve Howe at "May 6, 97 10:17:43 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > if [ $1 != "-a" -a $1 != "-b" -a $1 != "-p" ]; then blah; blah; blah; fi > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > shouldn't test be able to handle this, for simple option checking? > i think "test" gets confused and chokes because it thinks > "-a", "-b", "-p" are "test" options. > > i doesn't seem like there is any way to "quote" out the options i'd like > to test so that test doesn't think they are its own ... > > is there? It would be better to put "s around $1, and the trick is the next: if [ "X$1" != "X-a" -a "X$1" != "X-b" -a "X$1" != "X-p" ]; then blah; blah; blah; fi Bye, Gabor -- #!/bin/ksh Z='21N16I25C25E30, 40M30E33E25T15U!' ;IFS=' ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ ';set $Z;for i { [[ $i = ? ]]&&print $i&&break;[[ $i = ??? ]]&&j=$i&&i=${i%?};typeset -i40 i=8#$i;print -n ${i#???};[[ "$j" = ??? ]]&&print -n "${j#??} "&&j=;typeset +i i;};IFS=' 0123456789 ';set $Z;X=;for i { [[ $i = , ]]&&i=2;[[ $i = ?? ]]||typeset -l i;X="$X $i";typeset +l i;};print "$X" From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 10:27:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA03194 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 10:27:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from m7.sprynet.com ([165.121.2.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA03189 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 10:27:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spry01,spry161078 (hd45-022.hil.compuserve.com [199.174.225.22]) by m7.sprynet.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA10690 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 10:27:15 -0700 Message-ID: <3370BCBC.632C@sprynet.com> Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 13:32:44 -0400 From: Richard Storey X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: BSD/Linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I searched the list for answers to this question, but found only questions with no attached answers nor any string to follow. Are applications interchangeable between Linux & BSD? Probably a dumb question and I suspect the answer is no, but I know nothing about Unix-type OS's. I want to get out of the MS world for good, but can't switch unless i know for sure if there are apps out there that can take over the work for me. Thanks, RS. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 11:00:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA04848 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 11:00:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.DPCSYS.com [209.25.4.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04841 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 11:00:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id SAA18501; Wed, 7 May 1997 18:00:47 GMT Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 11:00:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: Doug Kite cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD as a router In-Reply-To: <33708AAC.1B07@icomnet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 7 May 1997, Doug Kite wrote: > I am having problems getting routing going on FreeBSD 2.1.5. I have > gateway=yes in my /etc/sysconfig, and routed is running. Below are the > output of netstat -rn and ifconfig -a. What else do I need to do? You probably want to add a default route but it's not required. Is there a reason you need to run routed? There rarely is, and if you really do need a routing daemon gated would be a better choice. The netstat and ifconfig output look fine (for a router with no traffic :), what kind of problems are you having. Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 11:10:58 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA05658 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 11:10:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kremvax.demos.su (kremvax.demos.su [194.87.0.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA05653 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 11:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by kremvax.demos.su (8.6.13/D) from root@localhost id WAA22747; Wed, 7 May 1997 22:07:59 +0400 Received: from ozz by techsz.msk.ru with ESMTP id WAA03081; (8.6.12/vak/1.9) Wed, 7 May 1997 22:00:16 +0400 Message-Id: <199705071800.WAA03081@techsz.msk.ru> Reply-To: From: "Ozz" To: Cc: Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 22:01:02 +0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, > > I got 1 problem that i need to ask you. When i went into directory > /pub/freebsd/3.0-CURRENT/packages/ and i found out that the file that is > in directory /pub/freebsd/3.0-CURRENT/packages/all are the same with the in > one in ..3.0-CURRENT/pacages/games or what ever. Files in subdiretories (i.e. games) are in fact links to files in ./All directory (=they are the same). > Now i'm starting to download /pub/freebsd/3.0-CURRENT/all. Will i be > able to install from it? or i need the files in seperate directories. Yes, but may have to use pkg_add utility to add them instead of adding using menu. Hope this helps. Andrzej Or use pkg_manage - ( more simply )... Rgds, Ozz, osa@techsz.msk.ru Close you m$-WINDOWS - Open the DOOR to Open Systems From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 12:15:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA09458 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 12:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from horton.iaces.com (root@horton.iaces.com [204.147.87.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA09447 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 12:15:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from proot@localhost) by horton.iaces.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) id OAA23198; Wed, 7 May 1997 14:15:36 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul T. Root" Message-Id: <199705071915.OAA23198@horton.iaces.com> Subject: Re: BSD/Linux To: dekkard@sprynet.com (Richard Storey) Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 14:15:36 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3370BCBC.632C@sprynet.com> from Richard Storey at "May 7, 97 01:32:44 pm" X-Organization: !nterprise Networking Services - ACES X-Phone: (612) 663-1979 X-Fax: (612) 663-8030 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 200 S. 5th St., Suite 1100 X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55402 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In a previous message, Richard Storey said: > I searched the list for answers to this question, but found only > questions with no attached answers nor any string to follow. > > Are applications interchangeable between Linux & BSD? Probably a dumb > question and I suspect the answer is no, but I know nothing about > Unix-type OS's. I want to get out of the MS world for good, but can't > switch unless i know for sure if there are apps out there that can take > over the work for me. Actually, the answer is yes with a footnote. Much of the software available for Unix is available in source for and much is already ported to Linux and BSD. BSD based systems used to be where most software started in fact. Now I suspect it's Solaris. There is a ton of software available. Second. FreeBSD has a Linux compatibility mode, and stuff works well for it. If Microsoft is an 800 lb gorilla, then Linux is a 600 lb Orangutang. They are very capable of getting companies to port their software to Linux. And that's good fo Unix in general. I'm happily running FreeBSD 2.2.1 at home, and have the Linux Compat stuff in. It runs Doom, and Acrobat Reader and Star Office just fine. I'm having a little trouble with Star Office. It takes a long time to come up, and I don't know if that's just the way it is, or if I have something wrong. It seems to run fine once it's up. Though, help functions haven't seem to come up yet. BTW, Star Office is a productivity suite. And it's free for non- commercial use. Pretty nice, too. Linux gives you a wide range of drivers for different hardware, and the freedom to mix and match, kernels, libraries and applications. FreeBSD gives you a more stable platform with a slightly smaller set of device drivers. Paul. -- "History: Those who ignore it are condemned to repeat it... Math, too." - From the Comic Strip "Betty" From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 13:02:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA12150 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 13:02:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ultra1.phoenixnet.net (ultra1.phoenixnet.net [156.46.50.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12138 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 13:02:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Dahc@Phoenixnet.net Received: from [156.46.127.50] (chadz.phoenixnet.net [156.46.127.50]) by ultra1.phoenixnet.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id PAA00222 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 15:00:57 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 15:00:57 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: dahc@email.pitnet.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ppp routing/aliasing Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I seem to be missing something here I just can't get this to work. here is my netstat -rn Routing tables Internet: Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif Expire default 156.46.127.1 UGSc 3 348 tun0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 1 0 lo0 156.46.127.1 156.46.127.51 UH 3 0 tun0 156.46.127.51 127.0.0.1 UGHS 0 0 lo0 the FreeBSD 2.2.1 machine can ftp out and be ftp'd into so I'm sure it's connected ok. When I try to add the interface into the sysconfig for the ethernet card (ed1) the ppp dialer (iijpp) takes a few minutes to open instead of it happening quickly. I try the ppp -alias and it says packet forwarding is enabled but it doesn't seem to happen. What I have tried, configureing ed1 with the same IP address as the tun0 ipaddress not configureing ed1 at all configureing ed1 with a second valid IP address I have to be missing something but this is my first time trying this so I won't beat myself up to much. my IP address that is assigned to me by my ISP every time I dialin is 156.46.127.51 the machine I dialin to's IP address is 156.46.127.1 any help would be appreciated, and remember I'm new at this so you may have to spell it out for me. thanks Chad From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 13:10:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA12798 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 13:10:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.visigenic.com (odin.visigenic.com [204.179.98.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12793 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 13:10:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from VSI48 (vsi48.visigenic.com [206.64.15.185]) by odin.visigenic.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA726 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 13:10:04 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970507130951.009d49e0@visigenic.com> X-Sender: toneil@visigenic.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 13:09:52 -0700 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Tim Oneil" Subject: Re: BSD/Linux Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Paul wrote: >Actually, the answer is yes with a footnote. Much of the software >available for Unix is available in source for and much is already >ported to Linux and BSD. BSD based systems used to be where most >software started in fact. Now I suspect it's Solaris. There is a >ton of software available. Yeah, solaris has come way up, its been strong since the first sparc servers, but I think java has pushed them into the leaders of of the network server business. They are the root servers on our local spur (for the most part), and our intranet backbones. As our products go, Solaris is our reference platform. Good thing? Dunno. I hear a lot of grumbling from our developers about the SparcWorks suite. A few of them wish they could use GNU but we can't for buisiness reasons I guess. >FreeBSD gives you a more stable platform with a slightly smaller set >of device drivers. Theres no doubt in my mind that having a BSD standards-based system is better than whatever linux is... a kernel with a bunch of ports? You can have a BSD style ps and a Sys V style ls on Linux. Not an ideal way to go, imho. So why is there more software for Linux??? -Tim From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 13:34:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA14004 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 13:34:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gw1.asacomputers.com (root@gw1.asacomputers.com [204.69.220.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13964 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 13:34:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gw1.asacomputers.com id KAA12962; Wed, 7 May 1997 10:35:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970507204241.007481c0@gw1> X-Sender: rajadnya@gw1 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 13:42:41 -0700 To: questions@FreeBSD.org From: Kedar Subject: RAID. Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm trying to figure out the best way to set up RAID under FreeBSD. Any pointers? Regards, Kedar. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 13:58:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA17084 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 13:58:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chaski.com (chaski-gate.orbis.net [205.164.72.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17079 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 13:58:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mike@localhost) by chaski.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) id PAA21503 for questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 7 May 1997 15:05:02 GMT From: michael dorin Message-Id: <199705071505.PAA21503@chaski.com> Subject: internet connection lockup? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 15:05:01 +0000 () X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a freebsd based system connected an ISP, directly with a 512kbs connection. Every so often, I cannot do a remote telnet to my server. The connection just locks up. I thought that it may be something in the route to my server, but I just was told that I need to run routed -q. I believe routed -q is running, if the problem is not routed -q what could it be? -Mike Dorin From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 14:00:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA17276 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 14:00:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from geocities.com (mail.geocities.com [204.7.246.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17270 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 14:00:19 -0700 (PDT) From: korn@cryogen.com Received: from frontiercomm.c0m (dialup110.bv.sgi.net [206.151.181.110]) by geocities.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA14392 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 7 May 1997 13:49:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 13:49:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705072049.NAA14392@geocities.com> X-Sender: korn@cryogen.com X-Mailer: IRCMail Version 0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: help Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk When i tried to install it, it was extracting the bin and said "Wrote -1 of 1024 bytes" or something like that. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 14:00:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA17341 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 14:00:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cerberus.partsnow.com (gatekeeper.partsnow.com [207.155.26.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17331 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 14:00:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bin@localhost) by cerberus.partsnow.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) id NAA28096; Wed, 7 May 1997 13:59:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: cerberus.partsnow.com: bin set sender to using -f Received: from nouvelle(192.168.100.9) by cerberus.partsnow.com via smap (V2.0) id xma028094; Wed, 7 May 97 13:59:32 -0700 Message-ID: <3370ED69.1A4C@PartsNow.com> Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 14:00:25 -0700 From: Don Wilde Organization: Soligen, Incorporated X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01E-NOV-NOV (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Oneil CC: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD/Linux References: <3.0.32.19970507130951.009d49e0@visigenic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>So why is there more software for Linux???<< The same reason Billy Gimbo is a rich man despite an inferior product: Marketing, Marketing, Marketing! On this subject, I suggest we spend less time writing on this Q&A list and more time writing books which are based on FreeBSD in the real world, as that is imnsho one of the 2 main reasons for Linux popularity. The other is the charismatic damn-the-big-guys story of Linus Torvald's history. We can't do much about the second reason, but I'm sure a lot of the guys on the core team have more than enough juice to write O'Reilly-quality books specifically using FreeBSD as the educational vehicle. The other thing we can do is to develop a marketing team for FreeBSD which will generate *official* news releases to send to the popular and trade press. There's a lot of good news about FreeBSD, starting with the fact that it was plug-and-play long before the 'Doze boneheads thought up the concept, playing up the **freely distributable** angle as per Richard Stallman's FSF and the MIT X group, playing up the SCO, BSDi and Linux emulation, and ending with the beautiful work the bt848 and other multimedia guys are doing with bleeding edge technology. And don't forget the staggering disparity in numbers between FreeBSD (and Linux) vs. Netscape or Microsoft or Solaris-hosted webservers. Somehow I don't think we'd appear so far behind... -- oooOOO O O O o * * * * * * o ___ _________ _________ ________ _________ _________ ___==_ V_=_=_DW ===--- Don Wilde [don@PartsNow.com] [http://www.PartsNow.com ] /oo0000oo-oo--oo-ooo---ooo-ooo---ooo-ooo--ooo-ooo---ooo-ooo---ooo-oo--oo From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 14:16:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA18216 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 14:16:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sol.ashland.edu (sol.ashland.edu [198.30.217.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA18203 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 14:16:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from warp4.ashland.edu for jroberts@ashland.edu by sol.ashland.edu (8.6.12/931002.1044) id RAA08626; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:16:42 -0400 Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 17:22:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Roberts To: "Paul T. Root" cc: FreeBSD Questions Discussion List Subject: Re: BSD/Linux In-Reply-To: <199705071915.OAA23198@horton.iaces.com> Message-ID: X-X-Sender: jroberts@mail.ashland.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 7 May 1997, Paul T. Root wrote: > I'm having a little trouble with Star Office. It takes a long time > to come up, and I don't know if that's just the way it is, or if > I have something wrong. It seems to run fine once it's up. Though, > help functions haven't seem to come up yet. > > BTW, Star Office is a productivity suite. And it's free for non- > commercial use. Pretty nice, too. > SO is actually *meant* to take a year to load. Their idea was that the user would run all or most of the apps that come with it (the presentation program, the drawing program) at once, so it would be best to use shared libraries -- and the other apps would open right up when called. I don't think I've ever used it in that way, and on the 486 I used to have, the wait was considerable! I've used a couple versions for Warp, but not FBSD. There are other good WPs for Warp, so I've pretty much given up SO (just too buggy), though it's fun to learn technical phrases in German (not everything got translated to English). Take care, Jeff ______________________________________________________________________ jroberts@ashland.edu >>>> Jeff Roberts <<<< strider@acm.org ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 14:46:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA19555 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 14:46:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from potogold.rmii.com (root@potogold.rmii.com [198.59.29.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA19550 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 14:46:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from isc by potogold.rmii.com with uucp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0wPEiL-003PIAC; Wed, 7 May 97 14:57 PDT Received: by SC.YoungLife.Org with Microsoft Mail id <33710536@SC.YoungLife.Org>; Wed, 07 May 97 15:41:58 PDT From: Postmaster To: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Intel EtherExpress 10/100B (PCI) Date: Wed, 07 May 97 15:40:00 PDT Message-ID: <33710536@SC.YoungLife.Org> Encoding: 18 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can someone please help me in resolving the following error: fxp0: warning: unsupported PHY, type=7 addr=1 I am using an Intel EtherExpress 10/100B. I installed FreeBSD 2.2.1 off a cdrom. I have downloaded the newest if_fxp.c (v 1.21.2.7) and if_fxpreg.h (v 1.2.2.4) and have recompiled the kernel sucessfully. What am I doing wrong? Thanks, Jeff Manley Young Life Service Center Colorado Springs, CO jmanley@sc.younglife.org From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 15:51:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA22907 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 15:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from implode.root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22900 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 15:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA25578; Wed, 7 May 1997 15:51:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705072251.PAA25578@implode.root.com> X-Authentication-Warning: implode.root.com: localhost [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Postmaster cc: FreeBSD-Questions Subject: Re: Intel EtherExpress 10/100B (PCI) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 07 May 1997 15:40:00 PDT." <33710536@SC.YoungLife.Org> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 15:51:26 -0700 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > >Can someone please help me in resolving the following error: > >fxp0: warning: unsupported PHY, type=7 addr=1 > >I am using an Intel EtherExpress 10/100B. I installed FreeBSD 2.2.1 off a >cdrom. I have downloaded the newest if_fxp.c (v 1.21.2.7) and if_fxpreg.h >(v 1.2.2.4) and have recompiled the kernel sucessfully. > >What am I doing wrong? You're using a new card. Intel recently (about 2 months ago) changed to using a different PHY chip. I need to add support for it in the driver, but the card should work okay without the special support (although full duplex might not work and the link0-2 flags won't work). -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 16:23:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA24522 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:23:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from idea.com (idea.com [204.215.159.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA24517 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:23:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff_Davey@idea.com Received: by idea.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.05 (305.3 1-15-1997)) id 85256490.00804401 ; Wed, 7 May 1997 19:21:00 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: IDEA To: questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <07256490.0080E490.00@idea.com> Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 16:29:49 -0600 Subject: FreeBSD 2.1.5 installation question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello! I'm hoping someone there might be able to figure out the problem I'm having. I've been trying to install FreeBSD 2.1.5 from a Walnut Creek CDROM onto a machine at my work. I got through paritioning the drive and installing the software; now I need to set up the networking. In the /start/sysinstall script, there is a menu option to set up network interfaces. No matter what I do, however, whenever I select this, nothing happens, and the user is navigated back to the previous menu. The accompanying manual shows that selection of interface types and then network information like host name, domain name, IP address, etc. should come here, but that isn't happening. I did notice that when the system booted, I was getting nothing sensed at ed0 and ed1, so I booted using the -c command. Using the accompanying driver viewer, there were some conflicts with the hardware, so I did some shuffling around. For the network entry, I deleted everything but one sub-entry (I have an SMC card), and saved. Nothing shows conflicts now. Now when I boot up, I get information for ed0, showing it at 0x280 IRQ, I/O Port 3, etc., so it seems to be sensed okay. If I run the 'ifconfig -a' command, then ed0 is one of the entries that get printed. However, I *still* can't get the /start/sysinstall to allow me to configure the network interface and other associated data! Is this a problem in 2.1.5? Is there another command outside of sysinstall I can use? I've basically run out of options at this point; if you can think of anything else I might try (even if it's recommending me going up to most current rev, if you think that would solve the problem), I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks in advance, Jeff Davey From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 16:25:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA24672 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.DPCSYS.com [209.25.4.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA24664 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:25:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id XAA20405; Wed, 7 May 1997 23:24:47 GMT Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 16:24:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: michael dorin cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: internet connection lockup? In-Reply-To: <199705071505.PAA21503@chaski.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 7 May 1997, michael dorin wrote: > I have a freebsd based system connected an ISP, > directly with a 512kbs connection. How. Frame relay to an etinc card? Cisco? Livingston? > Every so often, I cannot do a remote telnet to my server. The connection > just locks up. You need to turn on debugging and see what the frame circuit is doing. Tell us what you have, someone will probably know how to turn it on. Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 17:06:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA26552 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:06:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tulpi.interconnect.com.au (tulpi.interconnect.com.au [192.189.54.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA26543 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ahill@localhost) by tulpi.interconnect.com.au id JAA22186 (8.8.5/IDA-1.6); Thu, 8 May 1997 09:55:10 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 09:55:10 +1000 (EST) From: Anthony Hill To: Nik Clayton cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The taste of FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <19970502143945.17320@blueberry.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 2 May 1997, Nik Clayton wrote: > How do, > > If you were looking for a sysadmin to maintain a FreeBSD system, which > flavour(s) of commercial Unix would you consider to be closest to it in > terms of 'feel'? BSDI, followed by SunOS. From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 17:16:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA27223 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:16:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tok.qiv.com ([204.214.141.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA27215 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:16:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tok.qiv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with UUCP id TAA18750 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 7 May 1997 19:16:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (jdn@localhost) by acp.qiv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA00869 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 19:14:42 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: acp.qiv.com: jdn owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 19:14:42 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jay D. Nelson" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Followup: (Re: Current status of msdosfs (yet again)) In-Reply-To: <199705022256.AAA15099@eac.iafrica.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It appears the msdos filesystem is working just fine. I have a Dell Dimension with a cdrom hanging off a vibra 16 sound card, one ide 1.6Gb IDE disk, P133 upgraded to 2.2.1-RELEASE off the WC CDROM. 1. I mounted the dos slice, 2. tared the whole file system to /usr/tmp, 3. rebooted in virus mode, 4. deleted the dos slice, 5. recreated it, 6. formated it, 7. sys'd the new slice, 8. renamed io.sys and msdos.sys (to maintain their positions on the disk) 9. then rebooted back to the real world, 10. remounted the dos slice (no errors), 11. untarred the original tarball, 12. deleted io.sys, msdos.sys and mv'd the renamed counterparts to *.sys The end result is a dos/windows system that works as well as it did before, absolutely no errors or corruption and a convenient place to stick seldom used tarballs. I've created and deleted complete trees as well as files with no problems. If there are any problems, I haven't seen them. My compliments to those of you who made this work.. Thanks. -- Jay From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 18:11:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA29604 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 18:11:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jazz.snu.ac.kr (jazz.snu.ac.kr [147.46.102.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA29599 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 18:11:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from junker@localhost) by jazz.snu.ac.kr (8.8.5/8.8.4-procmail) id KAA07437; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:12:41 +0900 (KST) To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: sebesty@cs.elte.hu Subject: Re: questions-digest V3 #203 References: <199705061451.HAA14448@hub.freebsd.org> From: Choi Jun Ho Date: 08 May 1997 10:12:41 +0900 In-Reply-To: owner-questions-digest@FreeBSD.ORG's message of Tue, 6 May 1997 07:51:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Lines: 36 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk owner-questions-digest@FreeBSD.ORG writes: > From: Zoltan Sebestyen > Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 15:58:25 +0200 (MET DST) > Subject: Re: MP3 player is released > > > > > Can anyone tell me why it's nearly impossible to play MPEG audio with > > this tool ? On nearly every SB Pro compatible card I get only crap out of > > MPEG files. In windows they're all ok. So where's the problem ? I think > > a Pentium 133 should be fast enough to handle & to play them. I never get > > any satisfying result when using MPEG audio with FreeBSD...:-( > > > > Any ideas ? > > > > Thanx, > > Udo > > > No idea. I've just tested it on my PC w\ Pentium 133 + SoundBlaster 32 PnP > and it seemed to work fine. (I've run it on console, so there were no X11, > but I think it wouldn't consume so much CPU time. > splay-0.2, an MP3/WAV player on Linux, is ported to FreeBSD(it is on packages-current/audio). I submitted the port of splay-0.3 on FreeBSD(splay uses pthread lib, but FreeBSD ports don't use it), but is not committed yet. You can get the port from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/incoming/splay-0.3.ports.tar.gz but please note it is not committed version of port, but works good. -- |--Cool FreeBSD!-----MSX Forever!-----J.U.N.K.E.R/Beat Snatchers!--| |Choi Jun Ho http://jazz.snu.ac.kr/~junker| |Distributed Computing System Lab,CS Dept.,Seoul National Univ.,ROK| From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 19:01:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA01723 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 19:01:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inet-tsb.toshiba.co.jp (inet-tsb.toshiba.co.jp [202.33.96.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA01714 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 19:01:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tis2.tis.toshiba.co.jp by inet-tsb.toshiba.co.jp (8.6.12+2.5W/3.3W9-04/12/95) id LAA06173; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:00:57 +0900 Received: from mx.toshiba.co.jp (mx) by tis2.tis.toshiba.co.jp (5.67+1.6W/3.3W9-TOSHIBA-SERVER) id AA13348; Thu, 8 May 97 11:00:56 JST Received: from is.eec.toshiba.co.jp by toshiba.co.jp (8.7.1+2.6Wbeta4/3.3W9-TOSHIBA-GLOBAL SERVER) id LAA29949; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:00:54 +0900 (JST) Received: from hdq3210.eec.toshiba.co.jp ([133.199.32.10]) by is.eec.toshiba.co.jp (8.8.5/3.5W) with SMTP id KAA16867 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:58:51 +0900 (JST) Received: from nanosya.hdq3210.eec.toshiba.co.jp ([202.48.232.79]) by hdq3210.eec.toshiba.co.jp (4.1/6.4J.6-R1) id AA24036; Thu, 8 May 97 10:59:35 JST Message-Id: <9705080200.AA00049@nanosya.hdq3210.eec.toshiba.co.jp> From: itoh@hdq3210.eec.toshiba.co.jp (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCMEtGIxsoSg==?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQ2lLLhsoSg==?=) Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 11:00:08 +0900 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Question_MAIL Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AL-Mail 1.30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk $B$O$8$a$^$7$F!*(J $B0KF#$H8@$$$^$9!#(J $B%O!<%I%&%'%"!u%M%C%H%o!<%/$N9=@.$K4X$7$F(J $Be5-$N9=@.$K(JFreeBSD$B$rF3F~$7(J $B%2!<%H%&%'%$%5!<%P$NMM$KMxMQ$7$?$$$N$G$9$,(J $B>e Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA02921 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 19:34:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from narcissus.ml.org (root@brosenga.Pitzer.edu [134.173.120.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA02916 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 19:34:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (fullermd@localhost) by narcissus.ml.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA29545; Wed, 7 May 1997 19:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 19:34:10 -0700 (PDT) From: The Devil Himself To: korn@cryogen.com cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: help In-Reply-To: <199705072049.NAA14392@geocities.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 7 May 1997 korn@cryogen.com wrote: > When i tried to install it, it was extracting the bin and said "Wrote -1 of 1024 bytes" or something like that. > Are you installing from floppies? I believe that this happened to me about 8 times (!) while doing my install from floppies. It means that your disk is screwey, AFAIK, so just replace that one with another, and see if that clears it up. I suppose that can probably be generalized to a media problem, if you're using some other method. Hope it helps!! *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* |FreeBSD is good. FreeBSD is our friend. UNIX is our god.| *Micro$oft is bad. Micro$oft causes problems.* |MicroBSD??? I DON'T THINK SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!| |"I hate quotes in signature files" :-} MAtthew Fuller| *fullermd@narcissus.ml.org FreeBSD junkie* |http://keystone.westminster.edu/~fullermd Westminster College| *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 21:33:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA07173 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 21:33:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (root@[146.164.5.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA07167 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 21:33:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by gaia.coppe.ufrj.br (8.8.5/8.7.3) id BAA00662 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 8 May 1997 01:33:32 -0300 (EST) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199705080433.BAA00662@gaia.coppe.ufrj.br> Subject: vx0: strange connector type in EEPROM: 6 To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 01:33:32 -0300 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I've just installed a 3c905 100Mbps nic in my 2.1.7 system. it works, but now it keeps showing this annoying message at the console: vx0: strange connector type in EEPROM: 6 vx0: assuming AUI How can I get rid of this ? Is this harmful ? I'm thinking about getting 2.2.1 source for sys/dev/vx/*, could it work or are there much changes in the network physical layer between these systems ? TIA, Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis jonny@gta.ufrj.br +55 21 290-4698 ( Job ) jonny@cisi.coppe.ufrj.br Network Manager UFRJ/COPPE/CISI Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 21:43:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA07865 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 21:43:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns1.bconnex.ca (ns1.bconnex.ca [205.189.200.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA07860 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 21:43:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iah3-228.barrie.connex.net (iah3-228.barrie.connex.net [205.189.200.228]) by ns1.bconnex.ca (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id AAA15614 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 00:41:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 00:41:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705080441.AAA15614@ns1.bconnex.ca> X-Sender: dbaker@bconnex.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org From: pisces.iscariot@smashing-pumpkins.com (Darren R. Baker) Subject: FTP Install PROBLEM Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I wonder if you could possibly give me a DETAILED runthrough of how to install through FTP, since when I get to the screen that says 'DO NOT PRESS ENTER UNTIL YOU ARE FULLY CONNECTED', I hit alt-f3 and 'dial', and it immediately says 'dialing - connected', or something of the sort. I also don't know if it is detecting my modem properly. I have a 33.6 ZOOM, and the settings according to MSD are: COM-3 ADD-3e8h IRQ-4 According to advanced kernel config, they are: sio1 ADD-2f8 IRQ-3 but when I set sio2 as 3e8, IRQ4, it doesn't detect it. Please help, I'm dying to get FreeBSD installed! --- "The only comfort I have in death is the knowledge that I have changed the world." -My Seraphim From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 22:39:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA10060 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 22:39:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.dcro.dla.mil ([33.19.104.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA10055 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 22:39:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dcmc.dscc.dla.mil (vie-va6-09.ix.netcom.com [199.35.207.201]) by lists.dcro.dla.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA03103 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 01:26:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <337166FA.5393D6AC@lists.dcro.dla.mil> Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 01:39:07 -0400 From: "Michael P. Deslippe" Organization: Defense Contract Management Command X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Iomega JAZ Drive X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk If I copy v2.2.1 to a JAZ drive (from the CD-ROM), should I be able to floppy boot and then install from the JAZ drive, or will I need some other tools/software to make this happen (my SCSI CD-ROM went on the fritz). ---Mike From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 22:44:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA10328 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 22:44:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inet-tsb.toshiba.co.jp (inet-tsb.toshiba.co.jp [202.33.96.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA10323 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 22:44:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tis2.tis.toshiba.co.jp by inet-tsb.toshiba.co.jp (8.6.12+2.5W/3.3W9-04/12/95) id OAA17734; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:44:41 +0900 Received: from mx.toshiba.co.jp (mx) by tis2.tis.toshiba.co.jp (5.67+1.6W/3.3W9-TOSHIBA-SERVER) id AA29569; Thu, 8 May 97 14:44:40 JST Received: from is.eec.toshiba.co.jp by toshiba.co.jp (8.7.1+2.6Wbeta4/3.3W9-TOSHIBA-GLOBAL SERVER) id OAA05129; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:44:38 +0900 (JST) Received: from hdq3210.eec.toshiba.co.jp ([133.199.32.10]) by is.eec.toshiba.co.jp (8.8.5/3.5W) with SMTP id OAA07880 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:42:34 +0900 (JST) Received: from nanosya.hdq3210.eec.toshiba.co.jp ([202.48.232.79]) by hdq3210.eec.toshiba.co.jp (4.1/6.4J.6-R1) id AA25539; Thu, 8 May 97 14:43:19 JST Message-Id: <9705080543.AA00051@nanosya.hdq3210.eec.toshiba.co.jp> From: itoh@hdq3210.eec.toshiba.co.jp (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCMEtGIxsoSg==?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQ2lLLhsoSg==?=) Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 14:43:51 +0900 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Question_MAIL Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AL-Mail 1.30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How do you do Itoh is called. It is a question about the composition of a hard wear & network. A correspondence model is Dell Optiplex GxPro. Use LAN boards are 3C905 of 3coms of Dell accompanying, and 3C900 of 3coms. FreeBSD is introduced into the above-mentioned composition. Although he wants to use like GatewayServer, Well construct Please aid. could not be carried out. E-MAIL : tadakuni@2lji.hon.most.toshiba.co.jp itoh@hdq3210.eec.toshiba.co.jp ...Over From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 22:50:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA10548 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 22:50:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kevin.sunshine.net (pme29.sunshine.net [204.191.205.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA10540 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 22:50:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cagey@localhost) by kevin.sunshine.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA00317; Wed, 7 May 1997 22:46:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 22:46:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin Eliuk Reply-To: Kevin Eliuk To: "Darren R. Baker" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FTP Install PROBLEM In-Reply-To: <199705080441.AAA15614@ns1.bconnex.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 8 May 1997, Darren R. Baker wrote: > I wonder if you could possibly give me a DETAILED runthrough of how >to install through FTP, since when I get to the screen that says 'DO NOT >PRESS ENTER UNTIL YOU ARE FULLY CONNECTED', I hit alt-f3 and 'dial', and it >immediately says 'dialing - connected', or something of the sort. I also Does, if you happened to notice :) the `ppp ON' change to `PPP ON' when it switches to `Packet mode.' >don't know if it is detecting my modem properly. >I have a 33.6 ZOOM, and the settings according to MSD are: >COM-3 >ADD-3e8h >IRQ-4 >According to advanced kernel config, they are: >sio1 >ADD-2f8 >IRQ-3 >but when I set sio2 as 3e8, IRQ4, it doesn't detect it. I had a heck of a time with shared IRQ when I was setting up my internal modem ... I finally gave up and put my modem on sio0(COM1) >Please help, I'm dying to get FreeBSD installed! That's the spirit :-) >--- >"The only comfort I have in death is the knowledge that I have changed the >world." >-My Seraphim _______________________________________ |\ /| If I hadn't asked | \ kevin_eliuk@sunshine.net / | the questions I asked, | \ Kevin G. Eliuk / | I wouldn't be answering | /^\_________________________/^\ | the questions I'm answering. | / \ | |/--===### Powered By FreeBSD 2.2.1 \| | www.freebsd.org | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-questions Wed May 7 23:25:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA11822 for questions-outgoing; Wed, 7 May 1997 23:25:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gravy.kishka.net (root@chestnut2-29.slip.netaxs.com [207.8.210.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA11816 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 23:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by gravy.kishka.net (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id CAA00265 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 02:25:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 02:25:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Bryan Liesner X-Sender: root@localhost To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk subscribe freebsd-questions From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 00:29:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA13799 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 00:29:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za (pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za [163.195.219.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA13785 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 00:28:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za (localhost.nanoteq.co.za [127.0.0.1]) by pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA09649; Thu, 8 May 1997 09:28:45 GMT Message-Id: <199705080928.JAA09649@pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za> To: Jeff_Davey@idea.com cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 2.1.5 installation question In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 07 May 1997 16:29:49 CST." <07256490.0080E490.00@idea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 09:28:45 +0000 From: Pierre-Andre van Leeuwen Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Now when I boot up, I get information for ed0, showing it at 0x280 IRQ, I/O > Port 3, etc., so it seems to be sensed okay. If I run the 'ifconfig -a' > command, then ed0 is one of the entries that get printed. > > However, I *still* can't get the /start/sysinstall to allow me to configure > the network interface and other associated data! > > Is this a problem in 2.1.5? Is there another command outside of sysinstall > I can use? The solution is to edit /etc/sysconfig. Go to the network section and in there you will be able to setup all networking. This is actually what sysinstall is supposed to do. You will have to reboot after this. You can also change all of these on the fly without rebooting by using ifconfig, hostname and some other commands, but I recommend doing the above. > > I've basically run out of options at this point; if you can think of > anything else I might try (even if it's recommending me going up to most > current rev, if you think that would solve the problem), I would greatly > appreciate it. > That is probably a good idea :) There are many problems with sysinstall, but it has become more stable in later releases. > Thanks in advance, > > Jeff Davey > > > -- Pierre-Andre van Leeuwen Electronic Engineer Powered By FreeBSD ******************************** * Nanoteq (Pty) Ltd. * * Specialists in data security * * E-mail : pvl@nanoteq.com * * Ph : +27 (0)12 665-1338 * * http://www.nanoteq.co.za * ******************************** From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 00:35:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA13996 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 00:35:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from access.kuwait.net (root@access.kuwait.net [194.54.234.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA13969 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 00:35:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prime(really [194.54.236.124]) by access.kuwait.net via sendmail with smtp id for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 21:47:03 +0300 (GMT) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #31 built 1997-May-3) Message-Id: Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Flame" Organization: FOM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 21:49:08 +3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: ppp0 Reply-to: flame@access.kuwait.net X-Confirm-Reading-To: flame@access.kuwait.net X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.52) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Iam using FBSD 2-2-1 and having problem with ppp. During booting i get the following messages: lp0: TCP/IP capable interface Ifconfig: Interface ppp0 does not exist I have edited the files in /ppp directory to the best of my knowlege. When i try ppp to my ISP iam unable to login although i modified one of the examples in ppp.conf. When i use term i can login because iam presented with username and password prompts but then i can't use any other internet programs like ftp, lynx to connect to my account. What i need to know is: 1- How to create ppp0 and configure it? 2- Where/How i provide my username and password for ppp to use? Thank you for your help, v vv v v vvvv v .VVVVVV. //FLAME\\ ^^^^^^^^^ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 00:48:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA14389 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 00:48:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za (pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za [163.195.219.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA14360 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 00:48:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za (localhost.nanoteq.co.za [127.0.0.1]) by pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA09794; Thu, 8 May 1997 09:47:50 GMT Message-Id: <199705080947.JAA09794@pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za> To: "Jay D. Nelson" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Followup: (Re: Current status of msdosfs (yet again)) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 07 May 1997 19:14:42 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 09:47:49 +0000 From: Pierre-Andre van Leeuwen Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > It appears the msdos filesystem is working just fine. I have a Dell > Dimension with a cdrom hanging off a vibra 16 sound card, one ide 1.6Gb > IDE disk, P133 upgraded to 2.2.1-RELEASE off the WC CDROM. > > 1. I mounted the dos slice, > 2. tared the whole file system to /usr/tmp, > 3. rebooted in virus mode, > 4. deleted the dos slice, > 5. recreated it, > 6. formated it, > 7. sys'd the new slice, > 8. renamed io.sys and msdos.sys (to maintain their positions on the disk) > 9. then rebooted back to the real world, > 10. remounted the dos slice (no errors), > 11. untarred the original tarball, > 12. deleted io.sys, msdos.sys and mv'd the renamed counterparts to *.sys > > The end result is a dos/windows system that works as well as it did > before, absolutely no errors or corruption and a convenient place to stick > seldom used tarballs. I've created and deleted complete trees as well as > files with no problems. If there are any problems, I haven't seen them. > > My compliments to those of you who made this work.. Thanks. > > -- Jay > Same experience/compliments from me :) pierre -- Pierre-Andre van Leeuwen Electronic Engineer Powered By FreeBSD ******************************** * Nanoteq (Pty) Ltd. * * Specialists in data security * * E-mail : pvl@nanoteq.com * * Ph : +27 (0)12 665-1338 * * http://www.nanoteq.co.za * ******************************** From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 01:09:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA15125 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 01:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jocki.domestic.de (voygr-3.stuttgart.netsurf.de [194.233.216.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA15120 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 01:09:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from joki@localhost) by jocki.domestic.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA00272; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:08:59 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 01:46:14 +0200 (MET DST) From: Joachim Kuebart To: Zoltan Sebestyen Subject: RE: MP3 player is released Cc: freebsd-questions Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 06-May-97 at 11:45:55 Zoltan Sebestyen wrote: >Its address is: >http://www-inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~ctsay/mp2win/maplay+.freebsd.zip > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - >Sebestyen Zoltan It all seems so stupid, > it makes me want to give up. >szoli@caesar.elte.hu But why should I give up, > when it all seems so stupid? Hi! I like your sig! Long Live Depeche Mode! I'm also going to try your MP3 player, if it's a MPEG Audio Layer 3 player as I assume :-) c u Jo ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For a world of pedigree OSs FreeBSD - top breeders recommend it Joachim Kuebart Tel: +49 711 653706 Germany From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 01:52:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA16568 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 01:52:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (gatekeeper.barcode.co.il [192.116.93.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA16561 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 01:52:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (8.8.5/8.6.12) id LAA10698; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:49:20 +0300 (IDT) X-Authentication-Warning: gatekeeper.barcode.co.il: smap set sender to using -f Received: from localhost.barcode.co.il(127.0.0.1) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il via smap (V1.3) id sma010696; Thu May 8 11:49:10 1997 Message-ID: <337193CF.222C@barcode.co.il> Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 11:50:23 +0300 From: Nadav Eiron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: flame@access.kuwait.net CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ppp0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Flame wrote: > > Hello, > > Iam using FBSD 2-2-1 and having problem with ppp. > During booting i get the following messages: > > lp0: TCP/IP capable interface > Ifconfig: Interface ppp0 does not exist > > I have edited the files in /ppp directory to the best of my > knowlege. When i try ppp to my ISP iam unable to login although i > modified one of the examples in ppp.conf. When i use term i can > login because iam presented with username and password prompts but > then i can't use any other internet programs like ftp, lynx to > connect to my account. Do you have pseudo-device ppp 1 in your kernel config file? > > What i need to know is: > 1- How to create ppp0 and configure it? > 2- Where/How i provide my username and password for ppp to use? > > Thank you for your help, > v > vv v > v vvvv v > .VVVVVV. > //FLAME\\ > ^^^^^^^^^ Nadav From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 02:20:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA17637 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 02:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cssun.mathcs.emory.edu (cssun.mathcs.emory.edu [199.76.28.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA17632 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 02:20:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pdoc1.mathcs.emory.edu (pdoc1 [199.76.28.44]) by cssun.mathcs.emory.edu (8.7.5/8.6.9-940818.01cssun) with ESMTP id FAA04093 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 05:20:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Alan Krantz Received: (atk@localhost) by pdoc1.mathcs.emory.edu (8.7.5/8.6.9) id FAA10961 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 8 May 1997 05:19:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 05:19:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705080919.FAA10961@pdoc1.mathcs.emory.edu> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Problems with tex under 2.2.1 (cdrom) Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm having a number of problems with tex/latex. I've tried installing it twice - first when I installed freebsd 2.2.1 from the first cdrom and again from the "live file system" cdrom. (I had none of the below problems with 2.0) When I tried to build tex - i get: 1) mv: tex-archive/fonts/cm: No such file or directory mv: tex-archive/systems/knuth/lib: No such file or directory mv: tex-archive/macros/plain: No such file or directory -- 2) I cannot find latex209 3) when i run xdvi i get Checksum mismatch (dvi = 1039557284, vf = 3164107538) in font file /usr/local/sh are/texmf/fonts/vf/adobe/times/ptmr.vf Checksum mismatch (dvi = 1039557284, vf = 3164107538) in font file /usr/local/sh are/texmf/fonts/vf/adobe/times/ptmr.vf Checksum mismatch (dvi = 1039557284, vf = 3164107538) in font file /usr/local/sh are/texmf/fonts/vf/adobe/times/ptmr.vf .. and (even worse)lots of core dumps Note: overstrike characters may be incorrect. kpathsea: Running MakeTeXPK phvb8r 1080 600 1+480/600 ljfour /usr/local/bin/MakeTeXPK: Running gsftopk phvb8r 1080 gsftopkk version 1.10 Segmentation fault - core dumped /usr/local/bin/MakeTeXPK: `gsftopk phvb8r 1080' failed. kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log. xdvi: Can't find font phvb8r. Character(s) will be left blank. kpathsea: Running MakeTeXPK ptmri8r 720 600 magstep\(1.0\) ljfour /usr/local/bin/MakeTeXPK: Running gsftopk ptmri8r 720 gsftopkk version 1.10 Segmentation fault - core dumped /usr/local/bin/MakeTeXPK: `gsftopk ptmri8r 720' failed. xdvi: Can't find font ptmri8r. Character(s) will be left blank. kpathsea: Running MakeTeXPK ptmr8r 720 600 magstep\(1.0\) ljfour /usr/local/bin/MakeTeXPK: Running gsftopk ptmr8r 720 gsftopkk version 1.10 Segmentation fault - core dumped From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 02:28:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA17960 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 02:28:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cssun.mathcs.emory.edu (cssun.mathcs.emory.edu [199.76.28.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA17954 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 02:28:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pdoc1.mathcs.emory.edu (pdoc1 [199.76.28.44]) by cssun.mathcs.emory.edu (8.7.5/8.6.9-940818.01cssun) with ESMTP id FAA04876 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 05:28:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Alan Krantz Received: (atk@localhost) by pdoc1.mathcs.emory.edu (8.7.5/8.6.9) id FAA10992 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 8 May 1997 05:28:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 05:28:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705080928.FAA10992@pdoc1.mathcs.emory.edu> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Ho hum follow up on last comment Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I might not need latex209. At school latex in compatibility mode doesn't work on my files but under freebsd it seems to. Some more errors: (from xdvi most of the errors seem center around some command phvb8r which MakeTeXPK wants). /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/MakeTeXupdate: /usr/local/share/texmf/ls-R lacks magic string `% ls-R -- maintained by MakeTeXls-R; do not change this line.'. Note: overstrike characters may be incorrect. kpathsea: Running MakeTeXPK phvb8r 1080 600 1+480/600 ljfour /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/MakeTeXnames: Cannot fork /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/MakeTeXnames: Could not map source abbreviation . /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/MakeTeXmkdir: Cannot fork /usr/local/bin/MakeTeXPK: MakeTeXmkdir /usr/local/share/texmf/fonts/pk/modeless/tmp failed. kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log. xdvi: Can't find font phvb8r. Character(s) will be left blank. kpathsea: Running MakeTeXPK ptmri8r 720 600 magstep\(1.0\) ljfour /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/MakeTeXnames: Cannot fork /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/MakeTeXnames: Could not map source abbreviation . /usr/local/share/texmf/web2c/MakeTeXmkdir: Cannot fork /usr/local/bin/MakeTeXPK: MakeTeXmkdir /usr/local/share/texmf/fonts/pk/modeless/tmp failed. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 02:34:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA18248 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 02:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rpops002.rp-online.de (rpops002.rp-online.de [149.221.232.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA18243 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 02:34:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [149.221.235.68] (rpp-as1-pri68.online-club.de [149.221.235.68]) by rpops002.rp-online.de (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id LAA24563 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:35:22 +0200 (METDST) Message-Id: <199705080935.LAA24563@rpops002.rp-online.de> To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: CD-ROM attachment Date: Thu, 08 May 97 11:36:03 -0500 From: New User X-Mailer: E-Mail Connection v2.5.03 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -- [ From: New User * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- Recently, I received the latest FreeBSD version (v 2.2.1). However having booted from its boot disk, *all* changes made in the visual configuration menu did not succeed. I was not able to attach my Sony CDU-33a (doublespeed) CD-ROM on a Mozart soundcard. It would be nice if you could me answer soon. If it helped you, here my configuration for DOS: CD-ROM I/O Port: 0x340h SB I/O Port: 0x220h SB IRQ: 11 SB DMA: 1 N.B.: Under DOS I must setup the soundcard first in the config.sys and then the CD-ROM drivers; perhaps this could be the case, too, under FreeBSD but I do not know how to setup then the soundcard (having no CD-ROM). From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 02:52:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA18810 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 02:52:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from access.kuwait.net (root@access.kuwait.net [194.54.234.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA18797 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 02:52:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prime(really [194.54.235.83]) by access.kuwait.net via sendmail with smtp id for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:02:40 +0300 (GMT) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #31 built 1997-May-3) Message-Id: Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Flame" Organization: FOM To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 10:04:47 +3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: help - ppp0 missing Reply-to: flame@access.kuwait.net X-Confirm-Reading-To: flame@access.kuwait.net X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.52) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I have installed FBSD2-2-1 and having problem configuring ppp. I followed the steps mentioned in the handbook. On boot i get the following messages: lp0: TCP/IP capable interface Ifconfig: Interface ppp0 does not exist so i added ifconfig line for lp0 but that didn't seem to help. i always get login fails when i try to ppp to my ISP but i am able to connect when using term and typing username and password manualy, but then other net progs like lynx and ftp won't connect. 1- how can i create ppp0 interface. 2- how to configure ppp.conf or ppp.dial to send my username and password 3- do i need to use tip? i have configured tip but when i try to use it it says unrecognized host! thanks for your help v vv v v vvvv v .VVVVVV. //FLAME\\ ^^^^^^^^^ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 03:04:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA19239 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 03:04:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cssun.mathcs.emory.edu (cssun.mathcs.emory.edu [199.76.28.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA19231 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 03:04:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pdoc1.mathcs.emory.edu (pdoc1 [199.76.28.44]) by cssun.mathcs.emory.edu (8.7.5/8.6.9-940818.01cssun) with ESMTP id GAA06914 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 06:04:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Alan Krantz Received: (atk@localhost) by pdoc1.mathcs.emory.edu (8.7.5/8.6.9) id GAA11029 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 8 May 1997 06:03:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 06:03:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705081003.GAA11029@pdoc1.mathcs.emory.edu> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: more tex problems Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk When i try to run dvi2ps - i get: dvips: ! Couldn't find header file tex.pro Did I boo boo when i installed this ? From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 03:21:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA19783 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 03:21:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from revolution.3-cities.com (msmith@revolution.3-cities.com [204.203.224.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA19778 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 03:21:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by revolution.3-cities.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) id DAA20474 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 8 May 1997 03:18:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark D Smith Message-Id: <199705081018.DAA20474@revolution.3-cities.com> Subject: SCSI tape M_REJECT?? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 03:18:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, Here's some snippage from my messages file. This is for a DAT tape drive. What does the M_REJECT received (1:8) mean?? May 7 22:48:16 mark /kernel: ncr0 rev 17 int a irq 10 on pci0:11 May 7 22:48:16 mark /kernel: ncr0 waiting for scsi devices to settle May 7 22:48:17 mark /kernel: May 7 22:48:17 mark /kernel: (ncr0:1:0): "ARCHIVE Python 25588-XXX 2.96" type 1 removable SCSI 2 May 7 22:48:17 mark /kernel: st0(ncr0:1:0): Sequential-Access May 7 22:48:17 mark /kernel: st0(ncr0:1:0): asynchronous. May 7 22:48:17 mark /kernel: May 7 22:48:17 mark /kernel: st0(ncr0:1:0): M_REJECT received (1:8). May 7 22:48:17 mark /kernel: May 7 22:48:17 mark /kernel: st0(ncr0:1:0): M_REJECT received (1:8). May 7 22:48:18 mark /kernel: density code 0x13, drive empty Thanks! From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 03:51:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA20629 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 03:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.toronto.istar.net (Mail.Toronto.iSTAR.net [204.191.136.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA20624 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 03:51:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from istar.ca (iSTAR.ca [204.191.136.4]) by mail.toronto.istar.net (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id GAA12229 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 06:51:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (ts16-05.hfx.iSTAR.ca [198.53.126.212]) by istar.ca (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id GAA13045 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 06:51:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705081051.GAA13045@istar.ca> From: "slammer" To: Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 07:49:58 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have tried to install FreeBSD on my system and somehow I LOST my c drive!!!!!!!!!!!!! and everything on it.(i presume)Is there a possible way to retrieve my lost data and uninstalling freeBSD?I cannot access my c drve now.How can I repair the problem? From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 04:23:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA21622 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 04:23:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tu.kielce.pl (andrzej@eden.tu.kielce.pl [193.59.4.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA21562 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 04:22:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from andrzej@localhost) by tu.kielce.pl (8.7.5/8.7.3/ts-ugUA.960515) id NAA02208; Thu, 8 May 1997 13:21:43 +0200 (MET DST) From: Andrzej Szydlo Message-Id: <199705081121.NAA02208@tu.kielce.pl> Subject: NIS/yp '+' entries in passwd and group To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 13:21:42 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: andrzej@eden.tu.kielce.pl X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, How should '+' enries in /etc/passwd and /etc/group files look like and how do I add them for NIS/yp to work? I use FreeBSD 2.2 on both client and server. I tried to add +:*:: and some other combinations using vipw, but it always complained about wrong format. ypcat passwd gives me a complete list of entries. TIA Andrzej From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 04:31:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA21813 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 04:31:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.sirena.ru ([194.87.123.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA21798 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 04:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Fisher.sirena.ru by ns.sirena.ru with SMTP id PAA04525; (8.8.3/vak/1.9) Thu, 8 May 1997 15:28:39 +0400 (MSD) Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 15:28:39 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199705081128.PAA04525@ns.sirena.ru> X-Sender: sysadm@mow.sirena.ru X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Chemisov Sergey Subject: ?mount fd0 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Good day! How make file sistem on floppi disk using mount command? Chemisov Sergey. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 06:17:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA25987 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 06:17:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from internet.hydro.on.ca (sir.Hydro.ON.CA [192.75.134.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA25982 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 06:17:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: internet: Host usenet.Hydro.ON.CA claimed to be usenet.Hydro.ON.CA Received: from pc-servicej.rd.hydro.on.ca (pc-servicej.RD.Hydro.ON.CA [142.7.120.62]) by usenet.Hydro.ON.CA (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA11991; Thu, 8 May 1997 09:06:49 -0400 Received: (from jservice@localhost) by pc-servicej.rd.hydro.on.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA15803; Thu, 8 May 1997 09:06:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 09:06:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705081306.JAA15803@pc-servicej.rd.hydro.on.ca> From: Jim Service To: andrzej@tu.kielce.pl Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199705081121.NAA02208@tu.kielce.pl> (message from Andrzej Szydlo on Thu, 8 May 1997 13:21:42 +0200 (MET DST)) Subject: Re: NIS/yp '+' entries in passwd and group Reply-to: jservice@OHT.Hydro.ON.CA Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >>>>> "Andrzej" == Andrzej Szydlo writes: Andrzej> Hi, Andrzej> How should '+' enries in /etc/passwd and /etc/group files look like Andrzej> and how do I add them for NIS/yp to work? I use FreeBSD 2.2 on both Andrzej> client and server. Andrzej> I tried to add +:*:: and some other combinations using vipw, but it Andrzej> always complained about wrong format. This has worked for me. Put "+:" on the last line by itself to include *all* the yp users or "+user:::::::::" to include a particular user called "user". Vipw will complain about bad entries so you must edit /etc/master.passwd by hand. Make a backup copy of /etc/master.passwd. Carefully edit /etc/master.passwd and add the NIS entries. Execute pwd_mkdb /etc/master.passwd to "register" them. If all goes well then cd ~user should do something on the client machine. -- James (Jim) R.R. Service Internet: jservice@oht.hydro.on.ca Ontario Hydro Technologies 800 Kipling Ave. - Room KR128 FAX: (416) 207-5623 Toronto, Ontario, CANADA M8Z 5S4 voice: (416) 207-6946 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 06:26:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA26447 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 06:26:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cssun.mathcs.emory.edu (cssun.mathcs.emory.edu [199.76.28.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA26442 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 06:26:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pdoc1.mathcs.emory.edu (pdoc1 [199.76.28.44]) by cssun.mathcs.emory.edu (8.7.5/8.6.9-940818.01cssun) with ESMTP id JAA18322 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 09:26:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Alan Krantz Received: (atk@localhost) by pdoc1.mathcs.emory.edu (8.7.5/8.6.9) id JAA11217 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 8 May 1997 09:26:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 09:26:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705081326.JAA11217@pdoc1.mathcs.emory.edu> To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Ok problems resolved Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I reinstalled everything from scratch a third time and that seemed to fix things. My guess is that something goofed and the first time and the reinstalled didn't work right. There seems to be one glitch with latex compatibility mode and new command but I suspect this outside the Freebsd organization of expertise. Sorry for the mail spam... Alan From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 06:47:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA27309 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 06:47:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za (pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za [163.195.219.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27172 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 06:44:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za (localhost.nanoteq.co.za [127.0.0.1]) by pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02535; Thu, 8 May 1997 15:43:01 GMT Message-Id: <199705081543.PAA02535@pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za> To: Alan Krantz cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with tex under 2.2.1 (cdrom) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 08 May 1997 05:19:51 -0400." <199705080919.FAA10961@pdoc1.mathcs.emory.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 15:43:01 +0000 From: Pierre-Andre van Leeuwen Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I'm having a number of problems with tex/latex. I've tried installing it > twice - first when I installed freebsd 2.2.1 from the first cdrom and again > from the "live file system" cdrom. (I had none of the below problems with 2.0) > > When I tried to build tex - i get: > 1) > mv: tex-archive/fonts/cm: No such file or directory > mv: tex-archive/systems/knuth/lib: No such file or directory > mv: tex-archive/macros/plain: No such file or directory > -- What tex did you try to build? I've build the teTeX port a number of times without any problems except that it is very large. IMHO teTeX is probably the best port/package as it contains almost everything you need. > 2) > I cannot find latex209 Latex209 is a dinosaur, use latex2e. All of your old latex209 documents should still compile under latex2e. Latex2e comes with teTeX > 3) > when i run xdvi i get [snip] These font related problems usually go away when you install the teTex packages/port properly. My advice is to build the port, because TeX and family seems to be very system dependant. All your font files and other stuff will then be in the proper places. Good luck and happy texing pierre -- Pierre-Andre van Leeuwen Electronic Engineer Powered By FreeBSD ******************************** * Nanoteq (Pty) Ltd. * * Specialists in data security * * E-mail : pvl@nanoteq.com * * Ph : +27 (0)12 665-1338 * * http://www.nanoteq.co.za * ******************************** From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 06:54:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA27740 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 06:54:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d2si.com (macbeth.d2si.com [206.8.31.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27732 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 06:54:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from alec@localhost) by d2si.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA07550; Thu, 8 May 1997 08:54:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Alec Kloss Message-Id: <199705081354.IAA07550@d2si.com> Subject: Re: Iomega JAZ Drive In-Reply-To: <337166FA.5393D6AC@lists.dcro.dla.mil> from "Michael P. Deslippe" at "May 8, 97 01:39:07 am" To: bgy2452@lists.dcro.dla.mil (Michael P. Deslippe) Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 08:54:11 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Michael P. Deslippe is responsible for: > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 00:59:00 1997 > Message-ID: <337166FA.5393D6AC@lists.dcro.dla.mil> > Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 01:39:07 -0400 > From: "Michael P. Deslippe" > Organization: Defense Contract Management Command > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (Win95; I) > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Iomega JAZ Drive > X-Priority: 3 (Normal) > Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Precedence: bulk > If I copy v2.2.1 to a JAZ drive (from the CD-ROM), should I be able to > floppy boot and then install from the JAZ drive, or will I need some > other tools/software to make this happen (my SCSI CD-ROM went on the > fritz). > > ---Mike > I've never seen any FreeBSD cd's so I don't really know what they look like but I'd guess that they have "long" filenames--things that don't fit inside DOS's 8.3 convention. This will make copying the CD onto the Jaz drive tricky. If the files on the CD are all 8.3 filenames, then you should be able to proceed with a "filesystem install" with no trouble. If not, you may have to reformat the Jaz drive with a big UFS partition and copy the stuff from there. You might even be able to do this by booting the boot floppy on the machine with the CD-rom drive in something like the following manner: NOTE: many of these commands can clobber whole disks in a serious and unreparible way. Make sure you know what you are doing and have backups. Also, as you go through this, you may need to create device files in /dev with MAKEDEV. See the handbook. 1) Boot the boot disk, go to the fixit menu, get a shell prompt. 2) edit /etc/disktab to add as disktab entry for the jaz drive. I lifted mine out of the handbook somewhere: jaz1gb|Iomega Jaz 1GB - FreeBSD: \ :ty=removable:dt=SCSI:se#512:nt#64:ns#32:nc#1021:rm#5394:\ :pa#2090976:oa#0:ba#4096:fa#1024:ta=4.2BSD:\ :pc#2090976:oc#0: 3) use disklabel to write a new label into a slice on the jaz drive. If your jaz drive is like mine were, the DOS partition is in slice 4 so you'll use a command like: disklabel -w -r /dev/sd2s4 jaz1gb assuming that the jaz drive showed up as sd2. (NOTE: I'm not 100% sure that this command is right and it can mess up your disks if it is wrong. Read the man pages) 4) use disklabel to edit the partition table for the slice you just created and create a big partition. disklabel -e /dev/sd2s4 My partition table looks like: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 2090976 0 4.2BSD 0 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 1020*) c: 2090976 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 1020*) 5) Newfs the partition. In this case, use (I think) newfs /dev/sd2s4a 6) Mount up the CD and the jaz drive with something like: mkdir /cdrom mkdir /jaz mount -t cd9660 /dev/cd0a /cdrom mount -t ufs /dev/sd2s4a /jaz 7) Copy the CD your favorite way. I'd use: cd /cdrom tar cf - . | (cd /jaz; tar xf -) But there are lots of good (probably better) ways to get this done. 8) Shutdown the machine, haul your new FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE jaz drive over to the new machine and boot it up with the jaz drive and try it out. Making jaz drives work for the first time under FreeBSD is a bit tricky, but once they work you can treat them just like any other SCSI disk. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 06:54:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA27765 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 06:54:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA27756 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 06:54:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-131 [207.14.72.131]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA14775; Thu, 8 May 1997 04:51:35 -0800 Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 05:44:59 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCMEtGIxsoSg==?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQ2lLLhsoSg==?= cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Question_MAIL In-Reply-To: <9705080200.AA00049@nanosya.hdq3210.eec.toshiba.co.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 8 May 1997, [ISO-2022-JP] $B0KF#(J[ISO-2022-JP] $BCiK.(J wrote: > $B$O$8$a$^$7$F!*(J > $B0KF#$H8@$$$^$9!#(J (*^*)^*YT^Y(@#Y(*@#&E)(@#U)(#@*UE)(@#*E)@#(* > $B%O!<%I%&%'%"!u%M%C%H%o!<%/$N9=@.$K4X$7$F(J > $B $BBP1~5! $B;HMQ(JLAN$B%\!<%I$O!"(JDell$BIU?o$N(J3com$B$N(J3C905$B$H(J > 3com$B$N(J3C900$B$G$9!#(J (*W&#@(#&$@(*&$YRHUHFIUWENFIUPH@(*UR@(*UR(@*FR @R)OIJ@)RU(*@$&R$@(*&R%#@(*$&)!*!_(*$_!($E_)@#I$@)(# !!! > $B>e5-$N9=@.$K(JFreeBSD$B$rF3F~$7(J > $B%2!<%H%&%'%$%5!<%P$NMM$KMxMQ$7$?$$$N$G$9$,(J > $B>e > $B$*NOE:$(2<$5$$!#(J &^(*^*(#&E@@&E(*@&E(*@&)@(*+H# (*DH(*#E@(UE@)(W@W+@W hope that helps! good luck! :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 06:57:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA27939 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 06:57:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za (pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za [163.195.219.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27694 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 06:52:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za (localhost.nanoteq.co.za [127.0.0.1]) by pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02576; Thu, 8 May 1997 15:49:57 GMT Message-Id: <199705081549.PAA02576@pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za> To: Alan Krantz cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: more tex problems In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 08 May 1997 06:03:57 -0400." <199705081003.GAA11029@pdoc1.mathcs.emory.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 15:49:57 +0000 From: Pierre-Andre van Leeuwen Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > When i try to run dvi2ps - i get: > > dvips: ! Couldn't find header file tex.pro > > Did I boo boo when i installed this ? See my answer to your original question. -- Pierre-Andre van Leeuwen Electronic Engineer Powered By FreeBSD ******************************** * Nanoteq (Pty) Ltd. * * Specialists in data security * * E-mail : pvl@nanoteq.com * * Ph : +27 (0)12 665-1338 * * http://www.nanoteq.co.za * ******************************** From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 06:58:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA28047 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 06:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA28042 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 06:58:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-131 [207.14.72.131]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA14788; Thu, 8 May 1997 04:55:41 -0800 Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 05:49:04 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: "Darren R. Baker" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FTP Install PROBLEM In-Reply-To: <199705080441.AAA15614@ns1.bconnex.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 8 May 1997, Darren R. Baker wrote: i recommend istalling via DOS if you're a beginner, that way, you have everything ready to re-install right away if you mess up! may want to check out a "FAQ" i wrote up called BSDez on my WWW site (just for beginners ...) > I wonder if you could possibly give me a DETAILED runthrough of how > to install through FTP, since when I get to the screen that says 'DO NOT > PRESS ENTER UNTIL YOU ARE FULLY CONNECTED', I hit alt-f3 and 'dial', and it > immediately says 'dialing - connected', or something of the sort. I also > don't know if it is detecting my modem properly. > I have a 33.6 ZOOM, and the settings according to MSD are: > COM-3 > ADD-3e8h > IRQ-4 > According to advanced kernel config, they are: > sio1 > ADD-2f8 > IRQ-3 > but when I set sio2 as 3e8, IRQ4, it doesn't detect it. > Please help, I'm dying to get FreeBSD installed! > > --- > "The only comfort I have in death is the knowledge that I have changed the > world." > -My Seraphim > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 06:59:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA28133 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 06:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za (pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za [163.195.219.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28098 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 06:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za (localhost.nanoteq.co.za [127.0.0.1]) by pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02601; Thu, 8 May 1997 15:58:41 GMT Message-Id: <199705081558.PAA02601@pc-pvl.nanoteq.co.za> To: "slammer" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 08 May 1997 07:49:58 MST." <199705081051.GAA13045@istar.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 15:58:41 +0000 From: Pierre-Andre van Leeuwen Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I have tried to install FreeBSD on my system and somehow I LOST my c > drive!!!!!!!!!!!!! and everything on it.(i presume)Is there a possible way > to retrieve my lost data and uninstalling freeBSD?I cannot access my c drve > now.How can I repair the problem? > More details please! How many hard drives do you have, and where did you try to install FreeBSD. You may just have clobbered your MBR so boot up with a DOS floppy and try : fdisk /MBR Then check you DOS partitions with fdisk. If this doesn't work, you probably deleted your dos partition when you used the partition editor in sysinstall. Luckily you did make a backup of your c drive before installing FreeBSD ;) Feel free to reply with more details if you still have problems pierre -- Pierre-Andre van Leeuwen Electronic Engineer Powered By FreeBSD ******************************** * Nanoteq (Pty) Ltd. * * Specialists in data security * * E-mail : pvl@nanoteq.com * * Ph : +27 (0)12 665-1338 * * http://www.nanoteq.co.za * ******************************** From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 07:18:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA29164 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 07:18:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dns.terminal.cz (dns.terminal.cz [195.70.130.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA29156 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 07:18:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linux.elanor.cz by dns.terminal.cz via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id QAA21177; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:17:48 +0200 Received: from rak.elanor.cz (kra@rak.elanor.cz [192.168.32.9]) by linux.elanor.cz (8.6.12/8.6.14) with ESMTP id PAA21154 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 15:58:28 +0200 Received: from localhost (kra@localhost) by rak.elanor.cz (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA03647 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 17:58:47 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: rak.elanor.cz: kra owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 17:58:46 +0200 (MET DST) From: Pavel Krauz To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD and Virtual Private Network Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi all I would like to ask if there is any patches or package to build Virtual Private Network on top of FreeBSD. I am not currently a FreeBSD user but If the FreeBSD has the solution I am ready to setup FreeBSD machines. We are going to connect our two small private networks through the Internet For connecting private networks is possible to use IP tunnel (Linux support it and I think FreeBSD too) but I am not sure if it support authentication and/or encryption (Linux doesn't support it). Any information about how to set up true Virtual Private Network on top of FreeBSD would be great help to deploy FreeBSD in our small company. I heard about SKIP for FreeBSD but it has export restriction outside US. And one more question. Does FreeBSD TCP/IP stack support AH and ESP authentication and encryption headers (RFC1826, RFC1827)? Please reply personally as I don't take this mailing list. Sincerely Pavel Krauz From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 07:20:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA29320 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 07:20:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA29310 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 07:20:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-131 [207.14.72.131]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id FAA14827; Thu, 8 May 1997 05:17:50 -0800 Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 06:11:13 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: slammer cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <199705081051.GAA13045@istar.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 8 May 1997, slammer wrote: > I have tried to install FreeBSD on my system and somehow I LOST my c > drive!!!!!!!!!!!!! and everything on it.(i presume)Is there a possible way > to retrieve my lost data and uninstalling freeBSD?I cannot access my c drve > now.How can I repair the problem? you ought to be happy! but if you're really sad to see DOS go, 1. did you try to "sys c:" of a DOS boot floppy? 2. did you try to re-install boot-easy? 3. did you repartition C: from BSD? 4. did you format C: from BSD? if you did #4, there is no hope ... but it's really no great loss no matter what was on it ... you didn't provide too many details ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 08:07:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA01682 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 08:07:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gwout.ima-inc.com (ima-inc.com [205.185.190.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA01675 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 08:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705081507.IAA01675@hub.freebsd.org> Received: from huey.ima-inc.com by gwout.ima-inc.com via smtpd (for hub.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.18]) with SMTP; 8 May 1997 15:07:50 UT Received: from lakersnet.ima-inc.com by huey.ima-inc.com with SMTP (1.38.193.5/16.2) id AA27682; Thu, 8 May 1997 08:13:06 -0700 Reply-To: "Ken Shimono" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.0544.0 From: "Ken Shimono" To: Subject: Is this normal Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 08:06:05 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.0544.0 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I setup a virtual domain on my system, and I can't ping the IP. However, if I go to another system, I can ping the IP. Is this normol, or did I not do something correctly? From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 08:45:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA03903 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 08:45:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from md.zyga.com ([204.192.12.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA03896 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 08:45:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dans-zyga-pc.zyga.com ([204.192.12.103]) by md.zyga.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA16500 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:31:36 GMT Received: by dans-zyga-pc.zyga.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BC5BA1.7F07A140@dans-zyga-pc.zyga.com>; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:18:03 -0400 Message-ID: <01BC5BA1.7F07A140@dans-zyga-pc.zyga.com> From: Dan Wolfe To: "'questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Keeping a process running Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 11:18:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id IAA03899 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi everyone, I have a process called 'startslip' in FreeBSD that I want to periodically check using cron to make sure it is still running, and if it has stopped, to restart it. Can anyone give ideas on the best way to accomplish this? -Dan From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 08:50:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA04200 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 08:50:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.warp.co.uk (mail.warp.co.uk [194.207.68.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA04172; Thu, 8 May 1997 08:50:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tony@localhost) by mail.warp.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA09361; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:50:38 +0100 (BST) From: Anthony Barlow Message-Id: <199705081550.QAA09361@mail.warp.co.uk> Subject: Script to check if porgram is running To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 16:50:38 +0100 (BST) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Does anyone have a script to check if radiusd is running that can be run from the cron? After a few login failures it seems to exit with the following: exited on signal 10 (core dumped) Regards, Anthony From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 08:52:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA04342 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 08:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.visigenic.com (odin.visigenic.com [204.179.98.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA04337 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 08:52:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from VSI48 (vsi48.visigenic.com [206.64.15.185]) by odin.visigenic.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA7813 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 08:51:57 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970508085141.0098a2b0@visigenic.com> X-Sender: toneil@visigenic.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 08:51:41 -0700 To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Tim Oneil" Subject: fvwm2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Would someone mind sending me the example .fvwm2rc config file? It doesn't appear to have been installed with the window manager, even a recursive search of my drive won't reveal it, and without one example file I'm not getting very far in customizing it. fBSD 2.2.1 as a whole however is rocking! Thanks to the guys who answered my question about the fonts for xterm too. -Tim From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 08:54:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA04454 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 08:54:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hermes.sees.bangor.ac.uk (hermes.sees.bangor.ac.uk [147.143.102.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA04442 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 08:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andypc.sees.bangor.ac.uk by hermes.sees.bangor.ac.uk; Thu, 8 May 97 16:54:12 BST Received: by andypc.sees.bangor.ac.uk (8.8.5) id QAA00784; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:54:18 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 16:54:18 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199705081554.QAA00784@andypc.sees.bangor.ac.uk> From: Andy Duller To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Keyboard problems with XFree 3.2 (FreeBSD 2.2.1) - part II Reply-To: andy@sees.bangor.ac.uk Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Since my earlier message produced no replies I assume that the keyboard problems I am having with 2.2/2.2.1 are not general problems. In fact I've subsequently got 2.2.1 and XFree 3.2 working quite happily on two desktop machines. Just to re-iterate the problem I'm having: "When I startup X, the window manager (fvwm) and various xterms appear correctly and the mouse works. However, the keyboard doesn't do anything. If I disconnect and then reconnect the keyboard it begins to work - although even then if I press keys such as Caps lock, Scroll local, Num lock then it stops working again. In addition switching to a virtual terminal from X (e.g. ctrl-alt-F2) also stops the keyboard working and the disconnect mechanism has to be used again. I am using an AJP 7500 notebook computer (486) and a docking station which then has the keyboard plugged into the docking station." Initially I had thought it was a problem with XFree 3.2 but I now have that running with FreeBSD 2.1.7. Also, I tried FreeBSD 2.2.1 with XFree 3.1.2 and this also exhibited the same problems as with 3.2. Most peculiar ! Any suggestions as to the solution or comments would be gratefully received. Please could you reply directly as I don't subscribe to the list. Thanks, Andy Duller - -- Andy Duller, School of Electronic Engineering and Computer Systems, University of Wales, Bangor, Dean St., Bangor, Gwynedd, LL57 1UT U.K. Tel: +44 1248 382716 Fax: +44 1248 361429 E-mail: andy@sees.bangor.ac.uk From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 09:20:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA05428 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 09:20:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ds9.abac.com (qmailr@ds9.abac.com [206.171.121.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA05416 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 09:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20736 invoked by uid 501); 8 May 1997 16:20:33 -0000 Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 09:20:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Bryce Newall To: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Regular daily crashes Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings! I've recently converted from Linux over to FreeBSD, and for the most part, I'm quite impressed with FreeBSD. However, I have run into a bit of a problem. For the past 2 days, my system has managed to crash at almost exactly the same time... 6:34 PM. There has been nothing in the log files to indicate a problem just before the crash; it would just up and lock up on me. From the console, I could type and the letters would echo back at me, but the system wouldn't do anything with them. Even pressing ctrl-C wold just print ^C on the screen. Ctrl-Alt-Del would do nothing; I had to hit the RESET button to reboot the system. I've checked for bogus cron job entries (I had that problem under Linux once), and have checked the log files... nothing. I'm wondering if anyone can tell me what else to look for, if you've even heard of something like this happening before. On a different note, I'm also looking for a good program (or at least a program, at any rate :) ) for my UPS. I have an APC BackUPS 600 with a special cable, which I had all configured under Linux with a program called genpowerd. However, genpowerd will not compile under FreeBSD (it was designed specifically for Linux), and I need to find something for it. Basically, it just initiated a 5-minute auto shutdown if the power went ou (the time was configurable). Anyone know where I can find that? I've looked all through the ports and on the web site and have not found a thing. Thanks much! ********************************************************************** * Bryce Newall * IRC: Data * Email: data@dal.net * * WWW: http://voyager.abac.com/data * IRC Admin, voyager.dal.net * * --== Try DALnet! Server irc.dal.net, port 7000 ==-- * * "Stop smirking, Number 1." -- J.L. Picard * * "I'm a doctor, not a doorstop!" -- EMH Program, ST:FC * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 09:26:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA05684 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 09:26:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d2si.com (macbeth.d2si.com [206.8.31.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA05674 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 09:26:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from alec@localhost) by d2si.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA08599; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:25:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Alec Kloss Message-Id: <199705081625.LAA08599@d2si.com> Subject: Re: Keeping a process running In-Reply-To: <01BC5BA1.7F07A140@dans-zyga-pc.zyga.com> from Dan Wolfe at "May 8, 97 11:18:02 am" To: dwolfe@zyga.com (Dan Wolfe) Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 11:25:47 -0500 (CDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dan Wolfe is responsible for: > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 8 11:16:10 1997 > Message-ID: <01BC5BA1.7F07A140@dans-zyga-pc.zyga.com> > From: Dan Wolfe > To: "'questions@freebsd.org'" > Subject: Keeping a process running > Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 11:18:02 -0400 > X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id IAA03899 > Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Precedence: bulk > Hi everyone, > > I have a process called 'startslip' in FreeBSD that I want > to periodically check using cron to make sure it is still > running, and if it has stopped, to restart it. Can anyone > give ideas on the best way to accomplish this? > > -Dan > You could wrap another script around the staring of startslip: #!/bin/csh while (1) startslip end which perhaps gives you the effect you want. Of course, if something goes horribly wrong with startslip so it exits immediately, you've got a CPU killing infinite loop. If you are using 'startslip' to start dip to dial in a slip connection, I'd recommend smartening up the dip script to redial automatically. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 09:26:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA05719 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 09:26:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgate1.boeing.com ([130.42.28.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA05713 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 09:26:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from splinter.boeing.com by mailgate1.boeing.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA05627; Thu, 8 May 1997 09:26:15 -0700 Received: from e571484.hv.boeing.com by splinter.boeing.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA006308521; Thu, 8 May 1997 09:22:02 -0700 Message-Id: <3371FE7F.1F6D@hsv.boeing.com> Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 11:25:35 -0500 From: Toby Norris Organization: Boeing Space & Defense Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Installation Help Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am having difficulty installing FreeBSD on my system and I would greatly appreciate any assistance. I have two questions: 1) How do I install FreeBSD on my JAZZ drive? Right now I can't even get the installer program to recognize the JAZZ or ZIP drive. 2) How do I install FreeBSD on my Drive E: which is an extended DOS partition. I want to make sure that I don't loose anything. From what I've read, I will have to make a minor change to my boot disk which is C:. What are the steps that I must follow to add the boot stuff to C: and then allocate my entire E: partition to FreeBSD? Thanks, Toby Norris From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 09:36:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA06465 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 09:36:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ds9.abac.com (qmailr@ds9.abac.com [206.171.121.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA06456 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 09:36:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20833 invoked by uid 501); 8 May 1997 16:36:23 -0000 Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 09:36:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Bryce Newall To: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: rz/sz Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I feel like a newbie flooding away here. ;) I'm also trying to compile the rzsz patch on my system, and am running into a slight problem. Any ideas on what I should do here? Thanks! :) [51]root@voyager:/usr/ports/comms/rzsz # make NO_CHECKSUM=yes ===> Extracting for rzsz-3.44 ===> rzsz-3.44 depends on executable: unzip - found ===> Patching for rzsz-3.44 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for rzsz-3.44 2 out of 18 hunks failed--saving rejects to rz.c.rej *** Error code 2 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. ********************************************************************** * Bryce Newall * IRC: Data * Email: data@dal.net * * WWW: http://voyager.abac.com/data * IRC Admin, voyager.dal.net * * --== Try DALnet! Server irc.dal.net, port 7000 ==-- * * "Stop smirking, Number 1." -- J.L. Picard * * "I'm a doctor, not a doorstop!" -- EMH Program, ST:FC * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 09:38:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA06546 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 09:38:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06541 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 09:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (gatekeeper.barcode.co.il [192.116.93.17]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA18229 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 09:38:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nadav@localhost) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (8.8.5/8.6.12) id TAA12385; Thu, 8 May 1997 19:32:28 +0300 (IDT) Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 19:32:28 +0300 (IDT) From: Nadav Eiron To: flame@access.kuwait.net cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: help - ppp0 missing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 8 May 1997, Flame wrote: > Hi, > > I have installed FBSD2-2-1 and having problem configuring ppp. I > followed the steps mentioned in the handbook. > On boot i get the following messages: > lp0: TCP/IP capable interface > Ifconfig: Interface ppp0 does not exist > > so i added ifconfig line for lp0 but that didn't seem to help. lp0 has nothing to do with ppp0. > > i always get login fails when i try to ppp to my ISP but i am able > to connect when using term and typing username and password manualy, > but then other net progs like lynx and ftp won't connect. > > 1- how can i create ppp0 interface. Uncomment the relevant line in your kernel config file, as I've already told you on my previous private mail. If you don't know how to do that, read the section in the handbook on rebuilding the kernel. *It will not work until you do that*! BTW, why do you use kernel-mode ftp? User-mode ppp is configured into the kernel by default, so if you don't want to rebuild it, you can still use it. Again, look at the handbook and tutorials for details. Bottom line: RTFM > > 2- how to configure ppp.conf or ppp.dial to send my username and > password > > 3- do i need to use tip? i have configured tip but when i try to use > it it says unrecognized host! You probably have /etc/remote or some other tip file set up incorrectly. If all goes well you don't have to use tip, but it might be useful for debugging. > > thanks for your help > v > vv v > v vvvv v > .VVVVVV. > //FLAME\\ > ^^^^^^^^^ > From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 09:41:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA06723 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 09:41:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ghost.mep.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (ghost.mep.ruhr-uni-bochum.de [134.147.6.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06718 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 09:41:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from roberte@localhost) by ghost.mep.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id SAA01157; Thu, 8 May 1997 18:35:46 +0200 (MESZ) From: Robert Eckardt Message-Id: <199705081635.SAA01157@ghost.mep.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Subject: Re: NIS/yp '+' entries in passwd and group In-Reply-To: <199705081121.NAA02208@tu.kielce.pl> from Andrzej Szydlo at "8. May. 97 13:21:10" To: andrzej@tu.kielce.pl (Andrzej Szydlo) Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 18:35:46 +0200 (MESZ) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, andrzej@eden.tu.kielce.pl X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk It was Andrzej Szydlo who wrote: > Hi, > > How should '+' enries in /etc/passwd and /etc/group files look like > and how do I add them for NIS/yp to work? I use FreeBSD 2.2 on both > client and server. > I tried to add +:*:: and some other combinations using vipw, but it > always complained about wrong format. /etc/master.passwd (vipw): +::::::::: /etc/group: +::: > ypcat passwd gives me a complete list of entries. Robert -- Robert Eckardt \\ FreeBSD -- solutions for a large universe.(tm) RobertE@MEP.Ruhr-Uni-Bochum.de \\ What do you want to boot tomorrow ?(tm) http://WWW.MEP.Ruhr-Uni-Bochum.de/~roberte For PGP-key finger roberte@gluon.MEP.Ruhr-Uni-Bochum.de From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 09:42:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA06789 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 09:42:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ds9.abac.com (qmailr@ds9.abac.com [206.171.121.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA06784 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 09:42:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 20851 invoked by uid 501); 8 May 1997 16:42:29 -0000 Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 09:42:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Bryce Newall To: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Re: Keeping a process running In-Reply-To: <01BC5BA1.7F07A140@dans-zyga-pc.zyga.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 8 May 1997, Dan Wolfe wrote: > I have a process called 'startslip' in FreeBSD that I want to > periodically check using cron to make sure it is still running, and if > it has stopped, to restart it. Can anyone give ideas on the best way to > accomplish this? I'm assuming you're using pppd or something like that to keep your connection going? I have a script on my system at home that checks to see if my pppd is running, and if it isn't, it executes another script called ppp-on (which just dials out and then runs pppd to handle the connection). Granted, my home system is Linux and not FreeBSD, but it should work pretty much the same. The script is cronned to run every 5 minutes. Here it is: #!/bin/sh PIDFILE="/home/data/ppp.ps" ps -ax > $PIDFILE if [ `grep -c "pppd" $PIDFILE` -eq 0 ]; then /usr/sbin/ppp-on fi rm -f $PIDFILE The reason for having "ps -ax" in there is in case I run ppp-on as root (thereby running pppd as root). If I did that, then a ps -x executed as data wouldn't find pppd, and would try to spawn a second copy. You'll have to tailor this script for you needs, of course... but it should get you started. :) ********************************************************************** * Bryce Newall * IRC: Data * Email: data@dal.net * * WWW: http://voyager.abac.com/data * IRC Admin, voyager.dal.net * * --== Try DALnet! Server irc.dal.net, port 7000 ==-- * * "Stop smirking, Number 1." -- J.L. Picard * * "I'm a doctor, not a doorstop!" -- EMH Program, ST:FC * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 09:53:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA07386 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 09:53:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iworks.InterWorks.org (deischen@iworks.interworks.org [128.255.18.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07378 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 09:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from deischen@localhost) by iworks.InterWorks.org (8.7.5/) id LAA19335 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:54:25 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199705081654.LAA19335@iworks.InterWorks.org> Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 11:54:25 -0500 (CDT) From: "Daniel M. Eischen" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: UPS - Which one(s) to buy? Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk What UPS systems are being sucessfully used with FreeBSD? I've got a heterogenous network of NT PCs, FreeBSD PCs, and Sun workstations. Minimally, I'd like to ensure our Sun server, 2 FreeBSD PCs, and NT server systems (4 total) are covered. So I'd like to get UPS systems that are compatible with all three systems. Our current network has: 4 Suns 2 PCs (FreeBSD) 6 PCs (NT) Thanks in advance, Dan Eischen deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 10:04:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA07755 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:04:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.116.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07749 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:04:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.31.2]) by Campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE (RBI-Z-5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA14908; Thu, 8 May 1997 19:04:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.8.5/8.6.9) id TAA10073; Thu, 8 May 1997 19:03:42 +0200 (MEST) From: Christoph Kukulies Message-Id: <199705081703.TAA10073@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Subject: Re: NIS/yp '+' entries in passwd and group In-Reply-To: <199705081121.NAA02208@tu.kielce.pl> from Andrzej Szydlo at "May 8, 97 01:21:42 pm" To: andrzej@tu.kielce.pl (Andrzej Szydlo) Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 19:03:41 +0200 (MEST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, andrzej@eden.tu.kielce.pl Reply-To: Christoph Kukulies X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi, > > How should '+' enries in /etc/passwd and /etc/group files look like > and how do I add them for NIS/yp to work? I use FreeBSD 2.2 on both > client and server. > I tried to add +:*:: and some other combinations using vipw, but it > always complained about wrong format. +::::::::: (9 colons) is the correct entry for the last line. Lazier entries like +: (as it was possible to do under SunOS 4.1.x) seem to be no longer possible > > ypcat passwd gives me a complete list of entries. > > TIA > Andrzej > -- Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 10:42:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA09514 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:42:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cliff.bms.com (cliff.bms.com [140.176.1.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09509 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:42:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MetcalfJ (Metcalfj.wfd.pri.bms.com) by cliff.bms.com (PMDF V5.1-7 #22413) with SMTP id <01IIMNHGFE5S005XSF@cliff.bms.com> for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 8 May 1997 13:41:40 EST Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 13:42:12 -0400 From: "Jeffrey M. Metcalf" Subject: Q: How do I create complex makefiles in FreeBSD? To: FreeBSD Questions Message-id: <33721074.2228@synapse.bms.com> Organization: Bristol-Myers Squibb MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have a question related to program development. I often have to compile new software for FreeBSD using "make" and its script "Makefile". In some Integrated Devolpment Environments such as Borland C, these makefiles can be automatically generated. Obviously Makefiles can get very complicated. In the UNIX environment (particularly FreeBSD), are these Makefiles created by hand? Or are there perhaps GUI tools in X that the folks who work with say the FreeBSD ports use to generate them? It seems to me that the task of creating Makefiles is so mundane that it must surely be automated somehow. Are there any ASCII based tools to do it? Also, I have a second development question. Are there any X development tools for FreeBSD (commercial and free) that are similar in capability to the Borland Delphi or C++ Builder development packages? If there are none that rival Borland's packages, what are the best GUI development tools available for FreeBSD and XFree86? Thank You, JM -- Respond to: metcalfj@synapse.bms.com or: metcalf@snet.net http://ruddles.stat.uconn.edu/~jeff From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 10:43:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA09574 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:43:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homer.duff-beer.com (mail@homer.duff-beer.com [194.207.51.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09568; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:43:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from scot@localhost) by homer.duff-beer.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA04562; Thu, 8 May 1997 18:42:03 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 18:42:02 +0100 (BST) From: Scot Elliott To: Anthony Barlow cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Script to check if porgram is running In-Reply-To: <199705081550.QAA09361@mail.warp.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 8 May 1997, Anthony Barlow wrote: > Hi > > Does anyone have a script to check if radiusd is running that can be run > from the cron? > > After a few login failures it seems to exit with the following: > > exited on signal 10 (core dumped) > > Regards, > Anthony > > Well kind-of... I use the script below to keep PPP up during certain free- call hours. Just change the PPP process name to radiusd: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- #!/usr/bin/perl $PPPcommand="ppp -auto bogo"; open( InPipe, "ps -xa|"); # make sure PPP isn't running for( ) { $thisProc = $_; $thisProc =~ /([0-9]+).+\b[0-9]+\b\s(.*)$/; # $1 is PID; $2 is process name $PID = $1; $NAME=$2; if( "$NAME" eq "$PPPcommand" ) { exit; } } close (InPipe); # OK - PPP not running - so start it and restart socks system($PPPcommand); -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scot. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scot Elliott scot@poptart.org Tel: +44 (0)171 2322924 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Public key available by finger at: finger scot@poptart.org or at: http://www.poptart.org/pgpkey.html From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 11:09:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA10879 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:09:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from interlock.amlawcorp.com (interlock.amlawcorp.com [207.26.65.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA10862 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by interlock.amlawcorp.com id AA07315 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG); Thu, 8 May 1997 14:04:58 -0400 Message-Id: <199705081804.AA07315@interlock.amlawcorp.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.0544.0 From: "Julian S. Hing" To: "Jeff Roberts" , "Nadav Eiron" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions Discussion List" Subject: Re: Off Topic: X desktop manager for FBSD? Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 14:01:35 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.0544.0 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk QVWM is still in beta, but it is very nice. It mimics Win95 very well and is similar in many ways to fvwm95. It allows you to place "links" on the desktop. You can pick it up at http://www-masuda.is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~kourai/qvwm/qvwm -e.html. ---- From: Nadav Eiron To: Jeff Roberts Cc: FreeBSD Questions Discussion List Date: Tuesday, May 06, 1997 1:06 PM Subject: Re: Off Topic: X desktop manager for FBSD? > > >On Tue, 6 May 1997, Jeff Roberts wrote: > >> >> Hi, everyone. >> >> After a month of labor, I have finally found a combination of card/monitor >> settings that gives me a minimal XFree86 setup (VGA16) on my P6 w/ >> Trident Providia. However, I can't >> seem to do some of the things I used to be able to do in SCO (Motif?), >> such as put objects on the desktop, etc. I also haven't found where to >> set fvwm as my default window manager (twm is what always comes up), or >> why xvidtune adjustments are never saved (do I have to put them in a >> file manually?). With fvwm and tkdesk, I can get a (barely) acceptable >> desktop. Is there another widget or tool that I need to be able to make >> folders/icons on the desktop? What do *you* do? > >To change your default window manager (and fvwm is pretty good, and very >customizable) you need to modify either .xsession or .xinitrc (depending >on how you start X - with xdm or with startx, respectively). See man xdm >or man startx for details. Probably the best thing to do (after you've >read the relevant man page) is to copy the default system-wide file to >your login directory and modify it to your liking. > >> >> If you don't think other list members would benefit, please just reply to >> me personally. >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> Jeff >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> >> jroberts@ashland.edu >>>> Jeff Roberts <<<< strider@acm.org >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> >> >> >Nadav > From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 11:15:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA11186 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:15:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ds9.abac.com (qmailr@ds9.abac.com [206.171.121.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA11180 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:15:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 21812 invoked by uid 501); 8 May 1997 18:15:03 -0000 Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 11:15:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Bryce Newall To: "Daniel M. Eischen" cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: UPS - Which one(s) to buy? In-Reply-To: <199705081654.LAA19335@iworks.InterWorks.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 8 May 1997, Daniel M. Eischen wrote: > What UPS systems are being sucessfully used with FreeBSD? I've got > a heterogenous network of NT PCs, FreeBSD PCs, and Sun workstations. APC is very well supported in NT and SunOS/Solaris, and is probably well supported under FreeBSD as well. I'd recommend that; either a BackUPS or a SmartUPS should work fine for you. ********************************************************************** * Bryce Newall * IRC: Data * Email: data@dal.net * * WWW: http://voyager.abac.com/data * IRC Admin, voyager.dal.net * * --== Try DALnet! Server irc.dal.net, port 7000 ==-- * * "Stop smirking, Number 1." -- J.L. Picard * * "I'm a doctor, not a doorstop!" -- EMH Program, ST:FC * ********************************************************************** From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 11:18:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA11347 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flea.best.net (aswright@flea.best.net [206.184.139.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11341 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:18:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (aswright@localhost) by flea.best.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id LAA06770 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:18:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: flea.best.net: aswright owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 11:18:47 -0700 (PDT) From: "A. S. W" X-Sender: aswright@flea.best.net To: freebsd-questions@FREEBSD.ORG Subject: kernal compile error Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FREEBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know how to fix this problem that is occuring during `make': cc -c -O -W -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -nostdinc -I. -I../.. -I../../sys -I../../../include -DI586_CPU -DKTRACE -DVISUAL_USERCONFIG -DUSERCONFIG -DFAILSAFE -DUCONSOLE -DBOUNCE_BUFFERS -DSCSI_DELAY=10 -DCOMPAT_43 -DPROCFS -DFFS -DINET -DKERNEL -Di386 -DLOAD_ADDRESS=0xF0100000 -DMAXUSERS=6 param.c param.c:82: `TIMEZONE' undeclared here (not in a function) param.c:82: initializer element for `tz.tz_minuteswest' is not constant param.c:82: `DST' undeclared here (not in a function) param.c:82: initializer element for `tz.tz_dsttime' is not constant *** Error code 1 Stop. Thanks. -asw From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 11:24:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA11595 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:24:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from plains.nodak.edu (tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu [134.129.111.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11588; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:24:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by plains.nodak.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA21773; Thu, 8 May 1997 13:24:24 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 13:24:24 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <199705081824.NAA21773@plains.nodak.edu> To: mnewell@newell.arlington.va.us Subject: 2.2.1 GUS original and soundcode Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Several days ago (I think May 2), Mike Newell asked: >I have a GUS Max card that I've been using in my 2.1.0-RELEASE system; it >worked fine. I recently removed the card and dropped it into a newly >constructed 2.2.1 system. I used the exact same configuration from the >2.1.0 system: > > controller snd0 > device gus0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 12 drq 1 flags 0x3 vector gusintr > >[I've also tried it without the flags]. The 2.2.1 system sees the card: > > gus0 at 0x220 irq 12 drq 1 flags 0x3 on isa > gus0: [Where's the CS4231?] > PCM device 2 not installed. I wrongly asked him to check if the card still work by testing it with the DOS drivers, but it wasn't until he said he broke down and bought the Gus PnP, did the 2.2.x part of his message clicked in my ever shinking brain. For those of you that are using the guspnp6.tar.gz code with a GUS original or MAX, you may be like me and need to add the following line to sys/i386/isa/sound/gus_wave.c: *** gus_wave.c.orig Tue Nov 5 12:56:04 1996 --- gus_wave.c Thu May 8 12:53:06 1997 *************** *** 4830,4835 **** --- 4830,4836 ---- if (gus_pnp_found[i] != 0 && gus_pnp_found[i] == hw_config->io_base) gus_pnp_seen = 1; } + /* XXX */ gus_pnp_seen = 0; /* XXX */ gus_irq = irq; gus_dma = dma; gus_dma2 = dma2; after making this change, showaudio, vat will work with an older GUS. NOTE this breaks GUS PnP support. I am only mentioning this for those of us that have the old cards. I apologize to Mike for my earlier mistake, I think you are better off with the GUS PnP. --mark. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 11:34:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA12157 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ncrhub5.NCR.COM (h192-127-251-11.NCR.COM [192.127.251.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA12149 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:34:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from attwat.UUCP (attwat@localhost) by ncrhub5.NCR.COM (8.8.5/8.8.5) with UUCP id OAA01887 for FreeBSD.ORG!freebsd-questions; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:33:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705081833.OAA01887@ncrhub5.NCR.COM> Received: by attwat.waterloo.ncr.com; 8 May 97 14:33:42 EDT From: "Dave Schwartz" To: Subject: 2.1.5 system missing libdl.a Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 14:33:41 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm trying to build something (postgresql) that requires this but its missing and the sysadmin doesn't know where to find it. Where can I get this library? From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 11:41:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA12559 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:41:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from superior.mooseriver.com (ppp010-sm2.sirius.com [205.134.231.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA12549 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:41:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jgrosch@localhost) by superior.mooseriver.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA20332; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:40:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Josef Grosch Message-Id: <199705081840.LAA20332@superior.mooseriver.com> Subject: Re: UPS - Which one(s) to buy? In-Reply-To: <199705081654.LAA19335@iworks.InterWorks.org> from "Daniel M. Eischen" at "May 8, 97 11:54:25 am" To: deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org (Daniel M. Eischen) Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 11:40:58 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: jgrosch@sirius.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Daniel M. Eischen said: > >What UPS systems are being sucessfully used with FreeBSD? I've got >a heterogenous network of NT PCs, FreeBSD PCs, and Sun workstations. >Minimally, I'd like to ensure our Sun server, 2 FreeBSD PCs, and NT server >systems (4 total) are covered. So I'd like to get UPS systems that are >compatible with all three systems. > >Our current network has: > > 4 Suns > 2 PCs (FreeBSD) > 6 PCs (NT) > >Thanks in advance, > >Dan Eischen >deischen@iworks.InterWorks.org > I have had good results with the APC BK400B. I would suggest that that you should get a model that has the UPS montering features. I think the BK400B is the lowest end that supports this feature. The power montering feature will allow your UNIX system to detect when the wall power has disappeared and begin an orderly shutdown. This requires a special cable that APC sell and upcd. I can't find the URL for upcd just now. I will post it later. Be careful when picking out a UPC from APC. Their sales literature is slightly deceptive. They make recommendations for which UPS you should buy based on power requirements of you machine however this includes the assumption that you are going to be connecting your monitor and laser printer to the same UPS. One should _NEVER_ connect a laser printer to the same UPS as a computer. When a laser printer starts up the power drain is enormous. Josef -- Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 2.2.1 jgrosch@sirius.com | Micro$oft free world | UNIX for the masses From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 12:18:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA14137 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 12:18:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from driver.nsta.org (driver.nsta.org [199.0.2.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA14132 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 12:18:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nsta.org (niblick.nsta.org [199.0.2.7]) by driver.nsta.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA23420 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 15:18:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NSTA/SpoolDir by nsta.org (Mercury 1.21); 8 May 97 15:26:59 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by NSTA (Mercury 1.21); 8 May 97 15:26:30 -0500 Received: from Randy_M.NSTA by nsta.org (Mercury 1.21) with ESMTP; 8 May 97 15:26:27 -0500 From: "Randy_M" To: Subject: Running Freebsd on HP servers Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 15:26:26 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <56AFB244688@nsta.org> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am thinking of getting a HP Netserver E40 to run Free BSD on. Is this a good match and do you know of any problems with this setup? This machine is SCO certified but I was not sure if this was good enough to avoid any hardware problems with the FreeBSD OS. I can get this machine (PPro 180mhx, 80mb memory 2.1gb) for around $3500 so it seems to ba a great value (HP quality) for the price. If you have any other suggestions for an off-the-shelf machine in the same price range I would be interested in hearing them. Thank you for your help Randy Milhoan NSTA 1840 Wilson Blvd. Arlington, VA 22201 (703) 312-9281 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 12:31:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA14603 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 12:31:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tok.qiv.com ([204.214.141.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA14590 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 12:31:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tok.qiv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with UUCP id OAA24942; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:30:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (jdn@localhost) by acp.qiv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA00622; Thu, 8 May 1997 13:40:01 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: acp.qiv.com: jdn owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 13:40:00 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jay D. Nelson" To: Alan Krantz cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with tex under 2.2.1 (cdrom) In-Reply-To: <199705080919.FAA10961@pdoc1.mathcs.emory.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You may have a mixture of teTeX and the other TeX packages. That will cause all sorts of strange things. My suggestion (this is what I did to clean up my own goof) is to deinstall _ALL_ TeX distributions and install _either_ teTeX, or all the other TeX distributions. I like the teTeX distribution, myself. It's far easier to manage than the traditional TeX installation. -- Jay On Thu, 8 May 1997, Alan Krantz wrote: -> ->I'm having a number of problems with tex/latex. I've tried installing it ->twice - first when I installed freebsd 2.2.1 from the first cdrom and again ->from the "live file system" cdrom. (I had none of the below problems with 2.0) -> ->When I tried to build tex - i get: ->1) ->mv: tex-archive/fonts/cm: No such file or directory ->mv: tex-archive/systems/knuth/lib: No such file or directory ->mv: tex-archive/macros/plain: No such file or directory ->-- ->2) ->I cannot find latex209 ->3) ->when i run xdvi i get ->Checksum mismatch (dvi = 1039557284, vf = 3164107538) in font file /usr/local/sh ->are/texmf/fonts/vf/adobe/times/ptmr.vf ->Checksum mismatch (dvi = 1039557284, vf = 3164107538) in font file /usr/local/sh ->are/texmf/fonts/vf/adobe/times/ptmr.vf ->Checksum mismatch (dvi = 1039557284, vf = 3164107538) in font file /usr/local/sh ->are/texmf/fonts/vf/adobe/times/ptmr.vf ->.. ->and (even worse)lots of core dumps ->Note: overstrike characters may be incorrect. ->kpathsea: Running MakeTeXPK phvb8r 1080 600 1+480/600 ljfour ->/usr/local/bin/MakeTeXPK: Running gsftopk phvb8r 1080 ->gsftopkk version 1.10 ->Segmentation fault - core dumped ->/usr/local/bin/MakeTeXPK: `gsftopk phvb8r 1080' failed. ->kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log. ->xdvi: Can't find font phvb8r. ->Character(s) will be left blank. ->kpathsea: Running MakeTeXPK ptmri8r 720 600 magstep\(1.0\) ljfour ->/usr/local/bin/MakeTeXPK: Running gsftopk ptmri8r 720 ->gsftopkk version 1.10 ->Segmentation fault - core dumped ->/usr/local/bin/MakeTeXPK: `gsftopk ptmri8r 720' failed. ->xdvi: Can't find font ptmri8r. ->Character(s) will be left blank. ->kpathsea: Running MakeTeXPK ptmr8r 720 600 magstep\(1.0\) ljfour ->/usr/local/bin/MakeTeXPK: Running gsftopk ptmr8r 720 ->gsftopkk version 1.10 ->Segmentation fault - core dumped -> -> From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 12:36:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA14919 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 12:36:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sara.cpb.org (sara.cpb.org [198.187.60.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA14914 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 12:36:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sara.cpb.org ([198.187.60.3]) by sara.cpb.org (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA30810 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 15:36:41 -0400 Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 15:36:38 -0400 (EDT) From: mathison@sara.cpb.org (Neil T. Mathison) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Basic Unix shell usage question (I think) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings, I am attempting to use the vmsbackup utility and can not. But I believe my trouble is more basic than with this utility specifically. I have a file (in this case a vms backup saveset) that I need to feed to this utility. In an attempt to obtain a file listing os the saveset I have tried the following (expecting behavior similar to tar) vmsbackup -tf myfile.sav vmsbackup -tf /dev/stdin < myfile.sav cat myfile.sav | vmsbackup -tf /dev/stdin all without success. The error it reports is myfile.sav | /dev/stdin: Inappropriate ioctl for device By default vmsbackup is expecting a file through a tape device /dev/rmt8. How do I feed a regular disk file into it? From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 12:37:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA14997 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 12:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ccsales.ccsales.com ([207.137.172.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA14978; Thu, 8 May 1997 12:37:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ccsales.ccsales.com (ccsales.ccsales.com [207.137.172.4]) by ccsales.ccsales.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA12435; Thu, 8 May 1997 12:37:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 12:37:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Randy Katz To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Remote Mail Server Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a client who wants an inhouse mail server. I could setup a FreeBSD machine and put popper on it. The question is: How do I configure it to dialup the dns server and mail gateway and retrieve the mail. Here is the way it would look: mx1.hiper.net - Mail gateway ns1.hiper.net - DNS Server (same machine) pm1.hiper.net - Livinston Portmaster with modems and radius authentication. mach1.frajjoe.com - Machine on their premises with a modem, network adapter, tied into their network, pop3 configured, delivering mail to local users ... So, mach1.frajjoe.com needs to dialup, periodically, and get the mail directed to frajjoe.com, store it until users grab it through the pop3 server. How is this setup? RAK ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Randy A. Katz Computer Consultation & Sales 505 S. Beverly Drive, Suite 472 Beverly Hills, CA 90212 (213) 307-9581 http://www.ccsales.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 12:45:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA15397 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 12:45:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from seabass.progroup.com (catfish.progroup.com [206.24.122.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA15390 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 12:45:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tuna.ProGroup.COM (tuna.progroup.com [206.24.122.5]) by seabass.progroup.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA01135; Thu, 8 May 1997 12:44:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by tuna.ProGroup.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA18471; Thu, 8 May 1997 12:45:36 -0700 From: craig@tuna.progroup.com (Craig W. Shaver) Message-Id: <199705081945.MAA18471@tuna.ProGroup.COM> Subject: Re: 2.1.5 system missing libdl.a To: Dave.G.Schwartz@Waterloo.NCR.COM (Dave Schwartz) Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 12:45:36 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199705081833.OAA01887@ncrhub5.NCR.COM> from "Dave Schwartz" at May 8, 97 02:33:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > I'm trying to build something (postgresql) that requires this but its > missing and the sysadmin doesn't know where to find it. Where can I get > this library? > > Do not try to put this lib on the link list. All of the dlxxxx functions you need should be in the standard libc. -- Craig Shaver (craig@progroup.com) (415)390-0654 Productivity Group POB 60458 Sunnyvale, CA 94088 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 12:56:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA15865 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 12:56:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flea.best.net (aswright@flea.best.net [206.184.139.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA15858 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 12:56:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (aswright@localhost) by flea.best.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id MAA19478 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 12:56:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: flea.best.net: aswright owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 12:56:54 -0700 (PDT) From: "A. S. Wright" X-Sender: aswright@flea.best.net To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: kernal compile error (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Sorry. I did not specify. This is 2.2.1-stable. Does anyone know how to fix this problem that is occuring during `make': cc -c -O -W -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -nostdinc -I. -I../.. -I../../sys -I../../../include -DI586_CPU -DKTRACE -DVISUAL_USERCONFIG -DUSERCONFIG -DFAILSAFE -DUCONSOLE -DBOUNCE_BUFFERS -DSCSI_DELAY=10 -DCOMPAT_43 -DPROCFS -DFFS -DINET -DKERNEL -Di386 -DLOAD_ADDRESS=0xF0100000 -DMAXUSERS=6 param.c param.c:82: `TIMEZONE' undeclared here (not in a function) param.c:82: initializer element for `tz.tz_minuteswest' is not constant param.c:82: `DST' undeclared here (not in a function) param.c:82: initializer element for `tz.tz_dsttime' is not constant *** Error code 1 Stop. Thanks. -asw From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 12:58:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA15958 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 12:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sliphost37.uni-trier.de (root@sliphost37.uni-trier.de [136.199.240.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA15953 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 12:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from blank@localhost) by sliphost37.uni-trier.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA00648 for questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:41:26 +0200 (CEST) From: Sascha Blank Message-Id: <199705080941.LAA00648@sliphost37.uni-trier.de> Subject: Mailserver of export-controlled CTM deltas? To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 11:41:26 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: blank@fox.uni-trier.de (Sascha Blank) X-System: FreeBSD 2.2-STABLE X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, is there a mail server outside of the USA that offers the email-distribution of the export-controlled CTM parts as I can find them on ftp.internat.freebsd.org? If have checked the mailing lists that internat.freebsd.org offers but both of them do not offer such a service. -- Sascha Blank - mailto:blank@fox.uni-trier.de Student and System Administrator at the University of Trier, Germany Finger my account to receive my Public PGP key I don't speak for my employers, they don't pay me enough for that. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 13:09:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA16430 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 13:09:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gbdata.com (tel_ppp0001.livingston.net [207.22.211.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA16312 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 13:06:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gclarkii@localhost) by main.gbdata.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA02455; Thu, 8 May 1997 15:06:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Gary Clark II Message-Id: <199705082006.PAA02455@main.gbdata.com> Subject: Re: NIS/yp '+' entries in passwd and group To: jservice@OHT.Hydro.ON.CA Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 15:06:15 -0500 (CDT) Cc: andrzej@tu.kielce.pl, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199705081306.JAA15803@pc-servicej.rd.hydro.on.ca> from Jim Service at "May 8, 97 09:06:27 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jim Service wrote: > >>>>> "Andrzej" == Andrzej Szydlo writes: > > Andrzej> Hi, > Andrzej> How should '+' enries in /etc/passwd and /etc/group files look like > Andrzej> and how do I add them for NIS/yp to work? I use FreeBSD 2.2 on both > Andrzej> client and server. > Andrzej> I tried to add +:*:: and some other combinations using vipw, but it > Andrzej> always complained about wrong format. > > This has worked for me. Put "+:" on the last line by itself to include *all* > the yp users or "+user:::::::::" to include a particular user called "user". > Vipw will complain about bad entries so you must edit /etc/master.passwd by > hand. Make a backup copy of /etc/master.passwd. Carefully edit > /etc/master.passwd and add the NIS entries. Execute pwd_mkdb > /etc/master.passwd to "register" them. If all goes well then cd ~user > should do something on the client machine. No... Try a plain +:::::::::, it works. The reason why vipw is barfing on you is because you don't the colons. You should NEVER have to edit master.passwd by hand. For more information take a look at passwd(5), it is all in there. > James (Jim) R.R. Service Internet: jservice@oht.hydro.on.ca Gary -- Gary Clark II (N5VMF) | I speak only for myself and "maybe" my company gclarkii@GBData.COM | Member of the FreeBSD Doc Team Providing Internet and ISP startups - http://WWW.GBData.com for information FreeBSD FAQ at ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.ORG/pub/FreeBSD/docs/FAQ.latin1 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 13:24:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA17350 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 13:24:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from itsdsv1.enc.edu (itsdsv1.enc.edu [207.95.42.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17345 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 13:24:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dingo.its.enc.edu (dingo.its.enc.edu [207.95.222.250]) by itsdsv1.enc.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA14923; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:24:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 16:29:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Charles Owens X-Sender: owensc@dingo.its.enc.edu Reply-To: Charles Owens To: questions list FreeBSD cc: Andrzej Szydlo Subject: Re: NIS/yp '+' entries in passwd and group Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jim Service writes: >>>>> "Andrzej" == Andrzej Szydlo writes: > > Andrzej> Hi, > Andrzej> How should '+' enries in /etc/passwd and /etc/group files look like > Andrzej> and how do I add them for NIS/yp to work? I use FreeBSD 2.2 on both > Andrzej> client and server. > Andrzej> I tried to add +:*:: and some other combinations using vipw, but > Andrzej> it always complained about wrong format. > This has worked for me. Put "+:" on the last line by itself to include > *all* > the yp users or "+user:::::::::" to include a particular user called > "user". > Vipw will complain about bad entries so you must edit /etc/master.passwd > by hand. Make a backup copy of /etc/master.passwd. Carefully edit > /etc/master.passwd and add the NIS entries. Execute pwd_mkdb > /etc/master.passwd to "register" them. If all goes well then cd ~user > should do something on the client machine. Hmmm... in my experience if you use the correct format vipw will not complain at all. For all users I use "+:::::::::" For one users I use "+user:::::::::" (same as mentioned above) Works like a charm... Note: (and this confused me at first) when vipw processes these entries, the corresponding entries that it creates in /etc/passwd are: +:*:0:0::: +user:*:0:0::: (Note that I'm not using 2.1.8 or 2.2, so things _could_ be different now) --- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Charles N. Owens Email: owensc@enc.edu http://www.enc.edu/~owensc Network & Systems Administrator Information Technology Services "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's Eastern Nazarene College best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read." - Groucho Marx ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 13:29:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA17671 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 13:29:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.gbdata.com (tel_ppp0047.livingston.net [207.22.211.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17660 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 13:29:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gclarkii@localhost) by main.gbdata.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA00196; Thu, 8 May 1997 15:17:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Gary Clark II Message-Id: <199705082017.PAA00196@main.gbdata.com> Subject: Re: 2.1.5 system missing libdl.a To: Dave.G.Schwartz@Waterloo.NCR.COM (Dave Schwartz) Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 15:17:14 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199705081833.OAA01887@ncrhub5.NCR.COM> from Dave Schwartz at "May 8, 97 02:33:41 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dave Schwartz wrote: > I'm trying to build something (postgresql) that requires this but its > missing and the sysadmin doesn't know where to find it. Where can I get > this library? > Hello, PostgreSQL should not be asking for this. We do not use libdl to do our dynamic loading (linux and others do however). Which version (date) of PostgreSQL are you trying to build? Gary -- Gary Clark II (N5VMF) | I speak only for myself and "maybe" my company gclarkii@GBData.COM | Member of the FreeBSD Doc Team Providing Internet and ISP startups - http://WWW.GBData.com for information FreeBSD FAQ at ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.ORG/pub/FreeBSD/docs/FAQ.latin1 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 13:34:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA18077 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 13:34:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ceniai.net.cu (ns.ceniai.net.cu [169.158.128.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA18068 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 13:34:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ceniai.inf.cu by ceniai.net.cu with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0wPZvg-000029C; Thu, 8 May 97 16:36 EDT Received: from one.UUCP by ceniai.inf.cu with UUCP (Smail3.1.29.1) id m0wPWAl-0002A3C; Thu, 8 May 97 16:36 Received: from intranet.one.gov.cu by one.one.gov.cu with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #12) id m0wPcPV-0001xdC; Thu, 8 May 97 16:15 PDT Received: by intranet.one.gov.cu (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0wPZgA-00005HC; Thu, 8 May 97 16:20 CDT Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 16:20:40 -0400 (CDT) From: Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: A question concerning a networking issue. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Greetings from Havana: I have a no-name PCI network interface card (NIC). By saying no-name I mean it is not from one of the well known brands but it is from a so called SURECOM (of Taiwan), it is jumperless. I also have a FreeBSD 2.1.5 box, it is a AMD 486DX4 100 MHz with 16 RAM, an SCSI-II PCI controller Adaptec 2940, a SCSI-II Seagate Hard Disk (1 GB) and a SCSI-II Nec CDROM. Everything works very well but I have some doubts. My new PCI NIC (the one depected above) features popular Ethernet adapter emulation modes such as Novell NE2000, SMC/WD 8013EBT and 3Com EtherLink II/16 share memory access. It also features a mode called Surecom, after the name of the brand. FreeBSD 2.1.5 is not aware of this so called Surecom modes, it also knows certain types of well know PCI NIC's, that's why when probing for devices on pci bus the systems "sees" the NIC but there is no a proper driver to handle it. That's why a reconfigure the NIC to emulate a NE2000, the system then "saw" the NIC but just when probing for devices on the ISA bus, of course using the ed0 driver, it printed out the MAC address and the "type NE2000 (16 bit)".Apparently everything should work fine so far but it did not. So I decided to make a second test and for twice I ran the configuration utility of the NIC to reconfigure the working mode as a SMC/WD 8013 EBT, but with the same IRQ and I/O as before ( 11 & 340h). This time the system also "saw" the card as an ISA device (although it is a PCI ?) and the system printed out the MAC address once again and "type WD 8013 (8 bits)". Finally this time everything worked fine since I was able to ping hosts on my network. But it happens that all these tests achieved confused me a lot. So here you are the quetions I'm asking now: Why although the NIC features a PCI bus, when emulating NE2000 etc the system "sees" the card as an ISA device and not as a PCI ? Does it means that althoug it is inserted in a PCI slot it is no using the 32 bits bandwith of the bus when transferring data to the PC ? I'm sure there are certain knowledge concerning emulation modes I need to know in order to anderstand what happened here. I also would like to know a little bit more about the different techniques use by NIC's in order to transfer data from itself to the computer so is there is any "paper" in the internet covering that issue I would like to know where it is in order to obtain a copy. My apologies for bothering you with such questions but since I'm running FreeBSD I don't have any one else to ask them instead. Thanks in advance. Bye. ======================================= Ing. 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From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 14:14:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA20106 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:14:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.DPCSYS.com [209.25.4.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA20101 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:14:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id VAA25890; Thu, 8 May 1997 21:12:10 GMT Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 14:12:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: Dave Schwartz cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.1.5 system missing libdl.a In-Reply-To: <199705081833.OAA01887@ncrhub5.NCR.COM> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 8 May 1997, Dave Schwartz wrote: > I'm trying to build something (postgresql) that requires this but its > missing and the sysadmin doesn't know where to find it. 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Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 14:20:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA20392 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from limbo.senate.org (nathan@senate.org [204.141.125.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA20379 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:20:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nathan@localhost) by limbo.senate.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA00215 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 8 May 1997 17:20:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Nathan Dorfman Message-Id: <199705082120.RAA00215@limbo.senate.org> Subject: Urgent X Problem To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 17:20:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! I have a very important X problem that's been plaguging me for about a week now. I've tried absolutely everything possible. When XF86_SVGA invokes, it locks my computer to a state where I have to turn off the power. This is FreeBSD 2.2.1, XFree86 version 3.2 (the way it is on the April 1997 WC CD-ROM). X worked fine on this computer with Linux 2.0.29 with XFree86 version 3.1.2. I have a Cirrus-Logic 5422 video card and a Goldstar 1527 monitor. The monitor specs are definitely correct because a) I called the manufacturer to make sure and b) I tried minimalist. Here's what I tried so far: Commenting out every Mode entry in every Display subsection, and substituting it with Modes "640x480". X would load once or twice or even three times and then start locking again. I would then rerun xf86config, and it would once again work a few times then stop. Compile the kernel with the SYSVSHM. This eliminated logs that XFree was trying to use it and it didn't exist, but didn't help with the freezing. The Kernel logs nothing else suspicously. I am at my wit's end. I desperately need X to finish a project due May 16 (if not in, I fail the semester). Here's my /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config: ----------------------------------------------------here it is------- # File generated by xf86config. # # Copyright (c) 1995 by The XFree86 Project, Inc. # # Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a # copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), # to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation # the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, # and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the # Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: # # The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in # all copies or substantial portions of the Software. # # THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR # IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, # FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL # THE XFREE86 PROJECT BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, # WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF # OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE # SOFTWARE. # # Except as contained in this notice, the name of the XFree86 Project shall # not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or other # dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from the # XFree86 Project. # # ********************************************************************** # Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of # this file. # ********************************************************************** # ********************************************************************** # Files section. This allows default font and rgb paths to be set # ********************************************************************** Section "Files" # The location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the # file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally # no need to change the default. RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together), # as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath # command (or a combination of both methods) # # If you don't have a floating point coprocessor and emacs, Mosaic or other # programs take long to start up, try moving the Type1 and Speedo directory # to the end of this list (or comment them out). # FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" # For OSs that support Dynamically loaded modules, ModulePath can be # used to set a search path for the modules. This is currently supported # for Linux ELF, FreeBSD 2.x and NetBSD 1.x. The default path is shown # here. # ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Module section -- this is an optional section which is used to specify # which dynamically loadable modules to load. Dynamically loadable # modules are currently supported only for Linux ELF, FreeBSD 2.x # and NetBSD 1.x. Currently, dynamically loadable modules are used # only for some extended input (XInput) device drivers. # ********************************************************************** # # Section "Module" # # This loads the module for the Joystick driver # # Load "xf86Jstk.so" # # EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Server flags section. # ********************************************************************** Section "ServerFlags" # Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is # received. This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may # provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging # NoTrapSignals # Uncomment this to disable the server abort sequence # This allows clients to receive this key event. # DontZap # Uncomment this to disable the / mode switching # sequences. This allows clients to receive these key events. # DontZoom # Uncomment this to disable tuning with the xvidtune client. With # it the client can still run and fetch card and monitor attributes, # but it will not be allowed to change them. If it tries it will # receive a protocol error. # DisableVidModeExtension # Uncomment this to enable the use of a non-local xvidtune client. # AllowNonLocalXvidtune # Uncomment this to disable dynamically modifying the input device # (mouse and keyboard) settings. # DisableModInDev # Uncomment this to enable the use of a non-local client to # change the keyboard or mouse settings (currently only xset). # AllowNonLocalModInDev EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Input devices # ********************************************************************** # ********************************************************************** # Keyboard section # ********************************************************************** Section "Keyboard" Protocol "Standard" # when using XQUEUE, comment out the above line, and uncomment the # following line # Protocol "Xqueue" AutoRepeat 500 5 # Let the server do the NumLock processing. This should only be required # when using pre-R6 clients # ServerNumLock # Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1)) # Xleds 1 2 3 # To set the LeftAlt to Meta, RightAlt key to ModeShift, # RightCtl key to Compose, and ScrollLock key to ModeLock: # LeftAlt Meta # RightAlt ModeShift # RightCtl Compose # ScrollLock ModeLock # To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable. # XkbDisable # To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the # lines below (which are the defaults). For example, for a non-U.S. # keyboard, you will probably want to use: # XkbModel "pc102" # If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use: # XkbModel "microsoft" # # Then to change the language, change the Layout setting. # For example, a german layout can be obtained with: # XkbLayout "de" # or: # XkbLayout "de" # XkbVariant "nodeadkeys" # # If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and # control keys, use: # XkbOptions "ctrl:swapcaps" # These are the default XKB settings for XFree86 # XkbRules "xfree86" # XkbModel "pc101" # XkbLayout "us" # XkbVariant "" # XkbOptions "" XkbKeymap "xfree86(us)" EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Pointer section # ********************************************************************** Section "Pointer" Protocol "Microsoft" Device "/dev/mouse" # When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment # the following line. # Protocol "Xqueue" # Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice # BaudRate 9600 # SampleRate 150 # Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice # Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms) Emulate3Buttons Emulate3Timeout 50 # ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice # ChordMiddle EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Xinput section -- this is optional and is required only if you # are using extended input devices. This is for example only. Refer # to the XF86Config man page for a description of the options. # ********************************************************************** # # Section "Xinput" # SubSection "WacomStylus" # Port "/dev/ttyS1" # DeviceName "Wacom" # EndSubSection # SubSection "WacomCursor" # Port "/dev/ttyS1" # EndSubSection # SubSection "WacomEraser" # Port "/dev/ttyS1" # EndSubSection # # SubSection "Elographics" # Port "/dev/ttyS1" # DeviceName "Elo" # MinimumXPosition 300 # MaximumXPosition 3500 # MinimumYPosition 300 # MaximumYPosition 3500 # Screen 0 # UntouchDelay 10 # ReportDelay 10 # EndSubSection # # SubSection "Joystick" # Port "/dev/joy0" # DeviceName "Joystick" # TimeOut 10 # MinimumXPosition 100 # MaximumXPosition 1300 # MinimumYPosition 100 # MaximumYPosition 1100 # # CenterX 700 # # CenterY 600 # Delta 20 # EndSubSection # # The Mouse Subsection contains the same type of entries as the # standard Pointer Section (see above), with the addition of the # DeviceName entry. # # SubSection "Mouse" # Port "/dev/mouse2" # DeviceName "Second Mouse" # Protocol "Logitech" # EndSubSection # EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Monitor section # ********************************************************************** # Any number of monitor sections may be present Section "Monitor" Identifier "GoldStar" VendorName "LG Electronics" ModelName "1527" # HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified. # HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. HorizSync 31.5 - 64.3 # HorizSync 30-64 # multisync # HorizSync 31.5, 35.2 # multiple fixed sync frequencies # HorizSync 15-25, 30-50 # multiple ranges of sync frequencies # VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified. # VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. VertRefresh 50-100 # Modes can be specified in two formats. A compact one-line format, or # a multi-line format. # These two are equivalent # ModeLine "1024x768i" 45 1024 1048 1208 1264 768 776 784 817 Interlace # Mode "1024x768i" # DotClock 45 # HTimings 1024 1048 1208 1264 # VTimings 768 776 784 817 # Flags "Interlace" # EndMode # This is a set of standard mode timings. Modes that are out of monitor spec # are automatically deleted by the server (provided the HorizSync and # VertRefresh lines are correct), so there's no immediate need to # delete mode timings (unless particular mode timings don't work on your # monitor). With these modes, the best standard mode that your monitor # and video card can support for a given resolution is automatically # used. # 640x400 @ 70 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync Modeline "640x400" 25.175 640 664 760 800 400 409 411 450 # 640x480 @ 60 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync Modeline "640x480" 25.175 640 664 760 800 480 491 493 525 # 800x600 @ 56 Hz, 35.15 kHz hsync ModeLine "800x600" 36 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 # 1024x768 @ 87 Hz interlaced, 35.5 kHz hsync Modeline "1024x768" 44.9 1024 1048 1208 1264 768 776 784 817 Interlace # 640x480 @ 72 Hz, 36.5 kHz hsync Modeline "640x480" 31.5 640 680 720 864 480 488 491 521 # 800x600 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync Modeline "800x600" 40 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync # 800x600 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync Modeline "800x600" 50 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync # 1024x768 @ 60 Hz, 48.4 kHz hsync Modeline "1024x768" 65 1024 1032 1176 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync # 1024x768 @ 70 Hz, 56.5 kHz hsync Modeline "1024x768" 75 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync # 1280x1024 @ 87 Hz interlaced, 51 kHz hsync Modeline "1280x1024" 80 1280 1296 1512 1568 1024 1025 1037 1165 Interlace # 1024x768 @ 76 Hz, 62.5 kHz hsync Modeline "1024x768" 85 1024 1032 1152 1360 768 784 787 823 # 1280x1024 @ 61 Hz, 64.2 kHz hsync Modeline "1280x1024" 110 1280 1328 1512 1712 1024 1025 1028 1054 # 1280x1024 @ 74 Hz, 78.85 kHz hsync Modeline "1280x1024" 135 1280 1312 1456 1712 1024 1027 1030 1064 # 1280x1024 @ 76 Hz, 81.13 kHz hsync Modeline "1280x1024" 135 1280 1312 1416 1664 1024 1027 1030 1064 # Low-res Doublescan modes # If your chipset does not support doublescan, you get a 'squashed' # resolution like 320x400. # 320x200 @ 70 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync, 8:5 aspect ratio Modeline "320x200" 12.588 320 336 384 400 200 204 205 225 Doublescan # 320x240 @ 60 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync, 4:3 aspect ratio Modeline "320x240" 12.588 320 336 384 400 240 245 246 262 Doublescan # 320x240 @ 72 Hz, 36.5 kHz hsync Modeline "320x240" 15.750 320 336 384 400 240 244 246 262 Doublescan # 400x300 @ 56 Hz, 35.2 kHz hsync, 4:3 aspect ratio ModeLine "400x300" 18 400 416 448 512 300 301 602 312 Doublescan # 400x300 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync Modeline "400x300" 20 400 416 480 528 300 301 303 314 Doublescan # 400x300 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync Modeline "400x300" 25 400 424 488 520 300 319 322 333 Doublescan # 480x300 @ 56 Hz, 35.2 kHz hsync, 8:5 aspect ratio ModeLine "480x300" 21.656 480 496 536 616 300 301 302 312 Doublescan # 480x300 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync Modeline "480x300" 23.890 480 496 576 632 300 301 303 314 Doublescan # 480x300 @ 63 Hz, 39.6 kHz hsync Modeline "480x300" 25 480 496 576 632 300 301 303 314 Doublescan # 480x300 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync Modeline "480x300" 29.952 480 504 584 624 300 319 322 333 Doublescan EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Graphics device section # ********************************************************************** # Any number of graphics device sections may be present # Standard VGA Device: Section "Device" Identifier "Generic VGA" VendorName "Unknown" BoardName "Unknown" Chipset "generic" # VideoRam 256 # Clocks 25.2 28.3 EndSection # Sample Device for accelerated server: # Section "Device" # Identifier "Actix GE32+ 2MB" # VendorName "Actix" # BoardName "GE32+" # Ramdac "ATT20C490" # Dacspeed 110 # Option "dac_8_bit" # Clocks 25.0 28.0 40.0 0.0 50.0 77.0 36.0 45.0 # Clocks 130.0 120.0 80.0 31.0 110.0 65.0 75.0 94.0 # EndSection # Sample Device for Hercules mono card: # Section "Device" # Identifier "Hercules mono" # EndSection # Device configured by xf86config: Section "Device" Identifier "Cirrus-Logic" VendorName "Unknown" BoardName "5422" #VideoRam 1024 # Device section for Cirrus Logic GD5420/2/4/6/8/9-based cards. #MemBase 0x00e00000 #MemBase 0x04e00000 #Option "linear" # Use Option "no_bitblt" if you have graphics problems. If that fails # try Option "noaccel". # Refer to /usr/X11R6/lib/doc/README.cirrus. # To allow linear addressing, uncomment the Option line and the # address that the card maps the framebuffer to. # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Screen sections # ********************************************************************** # The Colour SVGA server Section "Screen" Driver "svga" # Use Device "Generic VGA" for Standard VGA 320x200x256 #Device "Generic VGA" Device "Cirrus-Logic" Monitor "GoldStar" Subsection "Display" Depth 8 # Omit the Modes line for the "Generic VGA" device Modes "640x480" #"800x600" "1024x768" ViewPort 0 0 # Use Virtual 320 200 for Generic VGA EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "640x480" #"800x600" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "640x480" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 32 Modes "640x400" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection EndSection # The 16-color VGA server Section "Screen" Driver "vga16" Device "Generic VGA" Monitor "GoldStar" Subsection "Display" Modes "640x480" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 800 600 EndSubsection EndSection # The Mono server Section "Screen" Driver "vga2" Device "Generic VGA" Monitor "GoldStar" Subsection "Display" Modes "640x480" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 800 600 EndSubsection EndSection # The accelerated servers (S3, Mach32, Mach8, 8514, P9000, AGX, W32, Mach64) Section "Screen" Driver "accel" Device "Cirrus-Logic" Monitor "GoldStar" Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "640x480" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "640x480" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 32 Modes "640x400" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection EndSection From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 15:26:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA23378 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 15:26:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (mailhost.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA23371 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 15:26:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wakkowar ([207.146.225.207]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA27716 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 22:25:28 +0000 Message-ID: <33723A4C.1B7@worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 16:40:44 -0400 From: Jason Reply-To: jlj.mitchell.max@worldnet.att.net Organization: AT&T Worldnet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: AMD K5 Chip(Does it work with FreeBSD) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm planning on getting a K5 133 motherboard for using with FreeBSD, but I will try to install it on my 486 AMD 66Mhz. I would like to know if FreeBSD is compatible with these chips, including the NEW K6. Jason Mitchell From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 15:46:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA24367 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 15:46:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.jpunix.com (root@alpha.jpunix.com [199.3.234.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA24361 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 15:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from perry@localhost) by alpha.jpunix.com (8.8.5/8.7.5) id RAA10674 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 8 May 1997 17:46:14 -0500 (CDT) Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 17:46:02 -0500 (CDT) From: "John A. Perry" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: I can't get X to work. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just installed FBSD 2.2.1-Stable from the CD. I have never had a problem starting X with previous versions of the OS. Now for the life of me I can't seem to get X up and running. I ran xf86config and specified everything the same way I did before. When I try to start Xwindows, I see a momentary flash of what looks like a root window, the screen goes blank, and then I'm returned to the command prompt. I sure would appreciate it if someone can help me out! Here is what the messages are when I type startx: XFree86 Version 3.2 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6100) Release Date: Oct 26 1996 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) Operating System: FreeBSD 2.2.0 Configured drivers: SVGA: server for SVGA graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 0): NV1, STG2000, et4000, et4000w32, et4000w32i, et4000w32p, et4000w32p, et6000, et3000, pvga1, wd90c00, wd90c10, wd90c30, wd90c24, wd90c31, wd90c33, gvga, ati, sis86c201, sis86c202, sis86c205, tvga8200lx, tvga8800cs, tvga8900b, tvga8900c, tvga8900cl, tvga8900d, tvga9000, tvga9000i, tvga9100b, tvga9200cxr, tgui9320lcd, tgui9400cxi, tgui9420, tgui9420dgi, tgui9430dgi, tgui9440agi, tgui9660xgi, tgui9680, cyber938x, clgd5420, clgd5422, clgd5424, clgd5426, clgd5428, clgd5429, clgd5430, clgd5434, clgd5436, clgd5446, clgd5462, clgd5464, clgd6205, clgd6215, clgd6225, clgd6235, clgd7541, clgd7542, clgd7543, clgd7548, ncr77c22, ncr77c22e, mga2064w, oti067, oti077, oti087, oti037c, al2101, ali2228, ali2301, ali2302, ali2308, ali2401, cl6410, cl6412, cl6420, cl6440, video7, ct65520, ct65530, ct65540, ct65545, ct65546, ct65548, ct65550, ct65554, ark1000vl, ark1000pv, ark2000pv, ark2000mt, mx, realtek, AP6422, generic Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) (using VT number 5) XF86Config: /etc/XF86Config (**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values (**) XKB: disabled (**) XKB: keymap: "xfree86(us)" (overrides other XKB settings) (**) Mouse: type: MouseSystems, device: /dev/ttyd0, baudrate: 1200 (**) SVGA: Graphics device ID: "ET4000/W32, W32i, W32p (generic)" (**) SVGA: Monitor ID: "My Monitor" (--) SVGA: Mode "640x480" needs hsync freq of 36.46 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 37.88 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "800x600" needs hsync freq of 48.08 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 48.36 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 56.48 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 51.02 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1024x768" needs hsync freq of 62.50 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 64.25 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 78.86 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 81.13 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "320x240" needs hsync freq of 39.38 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "400x300" needs hsync freq of 37.88 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "400x300" needs hsync freq of 48.08 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 37.80 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 39.56 kHz. Deleted. (--) SVGA: Mode "480x300" needs hsync freq of 48.00 kHz. Deleted. (**) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" (--) SVGA: PCI: Tseng Labs ET4000W32P revC rev 0, Memory @ 0xf0000000 (--) SVGA: ET4000: Initial hibit state: high (--) SVGA: chipset: et4000w32p (--) SVGA: videoram: 1024k (--) SVGA: clocks: 25.10 28.32 32.67 33.61 40.15 22.53 31.55 37.64 (--) SVGA: clocks: 50.19 56.65 65.34 67.23 80.32 45.07 63.10 75.30 (--) SVGA: clocks: 23.66 30.03 33.61 37.05 39.44 22.53 25.10 25.10 (--) SVGA: clocks: 47.33 60.06 67.23 74.10 78.89 45.07 50.19 50.19 (--) SVGA: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 90.000 MHz (**) SVGA: Mode "640x480": mode clock = 25.175, clock used = 25.100 (**) SVGA: Mode "800x600": mode clock = 36.000, clock used = 37.050 (**) SVGA: Mode "1024x768": mode clock = 44.900, clock used = 45.070 (--) SVGA: Virtual resolution set to 1024x768 (--) SVGA: Generic SpeedUps selected (Flags=0x30) (--) SVGA: ET4000: SpeedUps selected (Flags=0xf) PEX extension module not loaded XIE extension module not loaded Here is my XF86Config file: # File generated by xf86config. # # Copyright (c) 1995 by The XFree86 Project, Inc. # # Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a # copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), # to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation # the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, # and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the # Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: # # The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in # all copies or substantial portions of the Software. # # THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR # IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, # FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL # THE XFREE86 PROJECT BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY, # WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF # OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE # SOFTWARE. # # Except as contained in this notice, the name of the XFree86 Project shall # not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or other # dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from the # XFree86 Project. # # ********************************************************************** # Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of # this file. # ********************************************************************** # ********************************************************************** # Files section. This allows default font and rgb paths to be set # ********************************************************************** Section "Files" # The location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the # file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally # no need to change the default. RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together), # as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath # command (or a combination of both methods) # # If you don't have a floating point coprocessor and emacs, Mosaic or other # programs take long to start up, try moving the Type1 and Speedo directory # to the end of this list (or comment them out). # FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" # For OSs that support Dynamically loaded modules, ModulePath can be # used to set a search path for the modules. This is currently supported # for Linux ELF, FreeBSD 2.x and NetBSD 1.x. The default path is shown # here. # ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Module section -- this is an optional section which is used to specify # which dynamically loadable modules to load. Dynamically loadable # modules are currently supported only for Linux ELF, FreeBSD 2.x # and NetBSD 1.x. Currently, dynamically loadable modules are used # only for some extended input (XInput) device drivers. # ********************************************************************** # # Section "Module" # # This loads the module for the Joystick driver # # Load "xf86Jstk.so" # # EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Server flags section. # ********************************************************************** Section "ServerFlags" # Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is # received. This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may # provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging # NoTrapSignals # Uncomment this to disable the server abort sequence # This allows clients to receive this key event. # DontZap # Uncomment this to disable the / mode switching # sequences. This allows clients to receive these key events. # DontZoom # Uncomment this to disable tuning with the xvidtune client. With # it the client can still run and fetch card and monitor attributes, # but it will not be allowed to change them. If it tries it will # receive a protocol error. # DisableVidModeExtension # Uncomment this to enable the use of a non-local xvidtune client. # AllowNonLocalXvidtune # Uncomment this to disable dynamically modifying the input device # (mouse and keyboard) settings. # DisableModInDev # Uncomment this to enable the use of a non-local client to # change the keyboard or mouse settings (currently only xset). # AllowNonLocalModInDev EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Input devices # ********************************************************************** # ********************************************************************** # Keyboard section # ********************************************************************** Section "Keyboard" Protocol "Standard" # when using XQUEUE, comment out the above line, and uncomment the # following line # Protocol "Xqueue" AutoRepeat 500 5 # Let the server do the NumLock processing. This should only be required # when using pre-R6 clients # ServerNumLock # Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1)) # Xleds 1 2 3 # To set the LeftAlt to Meta, RightAlt key to ModeShift, # RightCtl key to Compose, and ScrollLock key to ModeLock: # LeftAlt Meta # RightAlt ModeShift # RightCtl Compose # ScrollLock ModeLock # To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable. XkbDisable # To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the # lines below (which are the defaults). For example, for a non-U.S. # keyboard, you will probably want to use: # XkbModel "pc102" # If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use: # XkbModel "microsoft" # # Then to change the language, change the Layout setting. # For example, a german layout can be obtained with: # XkbLayout "de" # or: # XkbLayout "de" # XkbVariant "nodeadkeys" # # If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and # control keys, use: # XkbOptions "ctrl:swapcaps" # These are the default XKB settings for XFree86 # XkbRules "xfree86" # XkbModel "pc101" # XkbLayout "us" # XkbVariant "" # XkbOptions "" XkbKeymap "xfree86(us)" EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Pointer section # ********************************************************************** Section "Pointer" Protocol "MouseSystems" Device "/dev/ttyd0" # When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment # the following line. # Protocol "Xqueue" # Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice # BaudRate 9600 # SampleRate 150 # Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice # Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms) # Emulate3Buttons # Emulate3Timeout 50 # ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice # ChordMiddle EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Xinput section -- this is optional and is required only if you # are using extended input devices. This is for example only. Refer # to the XF86Config man page for a description of the options. # ********************************************************************** # # Section "Xinput" # SubSection "WacomStylus" # Port "/dev/ttyS1" # DeviceName "Wacom" # EndSubSection # SubSection "WacomCursor" # Port "/dev/ttyS1" # EndSubSection # SubSection "WacomEraser" # Port "/dev/ttyS1" # EndSubSection # # SubSection "Elographics" # Port "/dev/ttyS1" # DeviceName "Elo" # MinimumXPosition 300 # MaximumXPosition 3500 # MinimumYPosition 300 # MaximumYPosition 3500 # Screen 0 # UntouchDelay 10 # ReportDelay 10 # EndSubSection # # SubSection "Joystick" # Port "/dev/joy0" # DeviceName "Joystick" # TimeOut 10 # MinimumXPosition 100 # MaximumXPosition 1300 # MinimumYPosition 100 # MaximumYPosition 1100 # # CenterX 700 # # CenterY 600 # Delta 20 # EndSubSection # # The Mouse Subsection contains the same type of entries as the # standard Pointer Section (see above), with the addition of the # DeviceName entry. # # SubSection "Mouse" # Port "/dev/mouse2" # DeviceName "Second Mouse" # Protocol "Logitech" # EndSubSection # EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Monitor section # ********************************************************************** # Any number of monitor sections may be present Section "Monitor" Identifier "My Monitor" VendorName "Unknown" ModelName "Unknown" # HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified. # HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. HorizSync 31.5, 35.15, 35.5 # HorizSync 30-64 # multisync # HorizSync 31.5, 35.2 # multiple fixed sync frequencies # HorizSync 15-25, 30-50 # multiple ranges of sync frequencies # VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified. # VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. VertRefresh 50-100 # Modes can be specified in two formats. A compact one-line format, or # a multi-line format. # These two are equivalent # ModeLine "1024x768i" 45 1024 1048 1208 1264 768 776 784 817 Interlace # Mode "1024x768i" # DotClock 45 # HTimings 1024 1048 1208 1264 # VTimings 768 776 784 817 # Flags "Interlace" # EndMode # This is a set of standard mode timings. Modes that are out of monitor spec # are automatically deleted by the server (provided the HorizSync and # VertRefresh lines are correct), so there's no immediate need to # delete mode timings (unless particular mode timings don't work on your # monitor). With these modes, the best standard mode that your monitor # and video card can support for a given resolution is automatically # used. # 640x400 @ 70 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync Modeline "640x400" 25.175 640 664 760 800 400 409 411 450 # 640x480 @ 60 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync Modeline "640x480" 25.175 640 664 760 800 480 491 493 525 # 800x600 @ 56 Hz, 35.15 kHz hsync ModeLine "800x600" 36 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 # 1024x768 @ 87 Hz interlaced, 35.5 kHz hsync Modeline "1024x768" 44.9 1024 1048 1208 1264 768 776 784 817 Interlace # 640x480 @ 72 Hz, 36.5 kHz hsync Modeline "640x480" 31.5 640 680 720 864 480 488 491 521 # 800x600 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync Modeline "800x600" 40 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync # 800x600 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync Modeline "800x600" 50 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync # 1024x768 @ 60 Hz, 48.4 kHz hsync Modeline "1024x768" 65 1024 1032 1176 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync # 1024x768 @ 70 Hz, 56.5 kHz hsync Modeline "1024x768" 75 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync # 1280x1024 @ 87 Hz interlaced, 51 kHz hsync Modeline "1280x1024" 80 1280 1296 1512 1568 1024 1025 1037 1165 Interlace # 1024x768 @ 76 Hz, 62.5 kHz hsync Modeline "1024x768" 85 1024 1032 1152 1360 768 784 787 823 # 1280x1024 @ 61 Hz, 64.2 kHz hsync Modeline "1280x1024" 110 1280 1328 1512 1712 1024 1025 1028 1054 # 1280x1024 @ 74 Hz, 78.85 kHz hsync Modeline "1280x1024" 135 1280 1312 1456 1712 1024 1027 1030 1064 # 1280x1024 @ 76 Hz, 81.13 kHz hsync Modeline "1280x1024" 135 1280 1312 1416 1664 1024 1027 1030 1064 # Low-res Doublescan modes # If your chipset does not support doublescan, you get a 'squashed' # resolution like 320x400. # 320x200 @ 70 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync, 8:5 aspect ratio Modeline "320x200" 12.588 320 336 384 400 200 204 205 225 Doublescan # 320x240 @ 60 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync, 4:3 aspect ratio Modeline "320x240" 12.588 320 336 384 400 240 245 246 262 Doublescan # 320x240 @ 72 Hz, 36.5 kHz hsync Modeline "320x240" 15.750 320 336 384 400 240 244 246 262 Doublescan # 400x300 @ 56 Hz, 35.2 kHz hsync, 4:3 aspect ratio ModeLine "400x300" 18 400 416 448 512 300 301 602 312 Doublescan # 400x300 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync Modeline "400x300" 20 400 416 480 528 300 301 303 314 Doublescan # 400x300 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync Modeline "400x300" 25 400 424 488 520 300 319 322 333 Doublescan # 480x300 @ 56 Hz, 35.2 kHz hsync, 8:5 aspect ratio ModeLine "480x300" 21.656 480 496 536 616 300 301 302 312 Doublescan # 480x300 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync Modeline "480x300" 23.890 480 496 576 632 300 301 303 314 Doublescan # 480x300 @ 63 Hz, 39.6 kHz hsync Modeline "480x300" 25 480 496 576 632 300 301 303 314 Doublescan # 480x300 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync Modeline "480x300" 29.952 480 504 584 624 300 319 322 333 Doublescan EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Graphics device section # ********************************************************************** # Any number of graphics device sections may be present # Standard VGA Device: Section "Device" Identifier "Generic VGA" VendorName "Unknown" BoardName "Unknown" Chipset "generic" # VideoRam 256 # Clocks 25.2 28.3 EndSection # Sample Device for accelerated server: # Section "Device" # Identifier "Actix GE32+ 2MB" # VendorName "Actix" # BoardName "GE32+" # Ramdac "ATT20C490" # Dacspeed 110 # Option "dac_8_bit" # Clocks 25.0 28.0 40.0 0.0 50.0 77.0 36.0 45.0 # Clocks 130.0 120.0 80.0 31.0 110.0 65.0 75.0 94.0 # EndSection # Sample Device for Hercules mono card: # Section "Device" # Identifier "Hercules mono" # EndSection # Device configured by xf86config: Section "Device" Identifier "ET4000/W32, W32i, W32p (generic)" VendorName "Unknown" BoardName "Unknown" #VideoRam 1024 # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate EndSection # ********************************************************************** # Screen sections # ********************************************************************** # The Colour SVGA server Section "Screen" Driver "svga" # Use Device "Generic VGA" for Standard VGA 320x200x256 #Device "Generic VGA" Device "ET4000/W32, W32i, W32p (generic)" Monitor "My Monitor" Subsection "Display" Depth 8 # Omit the Modes line for the "Generic VGA" device Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" ViewPort 0 0 # Use Virtual 320 200 for Generic VGA EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "640x480" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "640x480" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 32 Modes "640x400" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection EndSection # The 16-color VGA server Section "Screen" Driver "vga16" Device "Generic VGA" Monitor "My Monitor" Subsection "Display" Modes "640x480" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 800 600 EndSubsection EndSection # The Mono server Section "Screen" Driver "vga2" Device "Generic VGA" Monitor "My Monitor" Subsection "Display" Modes "640x480" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 Virtual 800 600 EndSubsection EndSection # The accelerated servers (S3, Mach32, Mach8, 8514, P9000, AGX, W32, Mach64) Section "Screen" Driver "accel" Device "ET4000/W32, W32i, W32p (generic)" Monitor "My Monitor" Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "640x480" "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "640x480" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 32 Modes "640x400" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection EndSection John Perry KG5RG perry@alpha.jpunix.com PGP-encrypted e-mail welcome! 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From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 16:05:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA25022 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:05:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vegemite.Stanford.EDU (vegemite.Stanford.EDU [171.65.76.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA25017 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:05:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (hlew@localhost) by vegemite.Stanford.EDU (8.7.1/8.6.4) id QAA22536; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:05:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 16:05:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Howard Lew To: Jason cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AMD K5 Chip(Does it work with FreeBSD) In-Reply-To: <33723A4C.1B7@worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 8 May 1997, Jason wrote: > I'm planning on getting a K5 133 motherboard for using with FreeBSD, but > I will try to install it on my 486 AMD 66Mhz. I would like to know if > FreeBSD is compatible with these chips, including the NEW K6. > K5 is compatible. Haven't had a chance to test the K6 yet. > Jason Mitchell > From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 16:07:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA25145 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:07:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from luke.cpl.net ([206.85.245.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA25136 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:07:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (shawn@localhost) by luke.cpl.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA04016; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:07:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 16:07:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Shawn Ramsey To: Jason cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AMD K5 Chip(Does it work with FreeBSD) In-Reply-To: <33723A4C.1B7@worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm planning on getting a K5 133 motherboard for using with FreeBSD, but > I will try to install it on my 486 AMD 66Mhz. I would like to know if > FreeBSD is compatible with these chips, including the NEW K6. > > Jason Mitchell Im no expert, but FreeBSD should work with ANY 32-bit x86 compatible chip. I know the K5 works, havent heard anybody on here say they are using the K6 yet. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 16:08:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA25205 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:08:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from osti.rmt.i1.net (pm3-4stl235.i1.net [207.230.58.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA25174 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:07:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wolpert@localhost) by osti.rmt.i1.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) id SAA01463 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 8 May 1997 18:10:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.0 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 18:07:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Edward Wolpert To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: java 1.1.1 on Freebsd 2.2, linux emulator problems? Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Folks- I'm running 2.2 on my system, and installed the linux jdk 1.1.1 version. It works fine under linux emulation, but the static-linked motif stuff doesn't seem to work ok. Has anyone else got that running under our emulator? Thanks. Virtually, Edward Wolpert --------- --------- wolpert@i1.net | 4A A5 96 0B 7D FE 5F F8 | 2047/4AB972BD 1996/09/21 | 3A F9 0E BC 77 3C 7A F9 | Change is inevitable. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 16:24:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA26046 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:24:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsd.fs.bauing.th-darmstadt.de (bsd.fs.bauing.th-darmstadt.de [130.83.63.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26029; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:24:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from campa.panke.de (anonymous231.ppp.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.231]) by bsd.fs.bauing.th-darmstadt.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA05007; Fri, 9 May 1997 01:24:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by campa.panke.de (8.8.5/8.6.12) id BAA10187; Fri, 9 May 1997 01:10:56 +0200 (MET DST) To: Anthony Barlow Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Script to check if porgram is running References: <199705081550.QAA09361@mail.warp.co.uk> From: Wolfram Schneider Date: 09 May 1997 01:10:53 +0200 In-Reply-To: Anthony Barlow's message of Thu, 8 May 1997 16:50:38 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: Lines: 15 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Anthony Barlow writes: > Does anyone have a script to check if radiusd is running that can be run > from the cron? Signal zero is your friend. E.g.: if killall -0 radiusd; then : else radiusd & fi `killall -s radiusd >/dev/null || radiusd &' works too. -- Wolfram Schneider http://www.apfel.de/~wosch/ From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 16:34:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA26534 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:34:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from PEAK.ORG (root@PEAK.ORG [198.68.22.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26529 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:34:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kira.peak.org (ppp12.nerc.com [205.247.120.196]) by PEAK.ORG (8.8.5/8.6.7) with ESMTP id QAA01809 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:35:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from luomat@localhost) by kira.peak.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA00342 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 8 May 1997 18:35:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705082235.SAA00342@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.1mach v148) X-Image-URL: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: <193702170025.GAA08056@mailhost.local.com> X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.1mach (Enhance 2.0b5.4) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Thu, 8 May 97 18:35:42 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ESCAPE! Florida Cruise/Vacation $598/4 People Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: <193702170025.GAA08056@mailhost.local.com> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ X-NeXTStep-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next X-PGP-Key: Email me Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > ********************************************* > This is a SPECIAL FLORIDA PROMOTION > brought to you by Cape Canaveral Cruise Line! > ********************************************* So uh... time to restrict posting to members of the mailing list? TjL -- TjL http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 16:36:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA26646 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:36:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lib1.subr.cmq.com (mail.subr.cmq.com [206.112.93.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA26639 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:36:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Southern (johnsona.subr.cmq.com [206.112.93.101]) by lib1.subr.cmq.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA03558 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 18:36:39 -0500 Message-Id: <199705082336.SAA03558@lib1.subr.cmq.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: Johnson@subr.cmq.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 17:55:26 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Help on installing FreeBSD X-Confirm-Reading-To: Johnson@subr.cmq.com X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello!!! I need help installing FreeBSD 2.2.1 I have Gateway P120 with a Toshiba IDE CD-ROM drive and 1.6G of hard drive and a 3.5inch floppy drive. I have an internet connection through an ISDN line. I have also acquired partition magic and created three partitions on my hard drive. Drive C: primary partition running Dos 6.22/Win 3.1, a hidden primary partition running Windows 95 and an extended partition which is a logical drive D: with about 205MB on it. I wish to install FreeBSD on drive D. I have already visited the ftp site at Virginia Tech and copied most if not all the bin distributions on about 15 floppy disks. Now my problem is I have made a boot floppy disk with the installation instructions and the kernel of FreeBSD on it using the fdimage boot.flp program. If I boot the computer with the boot disk I get the installation process which shows me the disk geometry indicating, I have about 5 partitions on the drive one FAT partition type, one OS/2 partition type, two unused partitions which are relatively small in size maybe about 3MB each and the extended partition which I created by an earlier program, I still want to use my other installed operating systems and I do not want to use the dos fdisk type partition program to partition my entire disk like it is showing in the drive geometry, because I am afraid I would all previous data, if I create a freeBSD partition on the unused partitions I get only about 1MB allocated to freeBSD or else nothing is created if I allocate more space than neccessary to the unused partitions and if I try to create a freeBSD partition on the extended partition, I get the message saying the partition is in use. and then I get errors saying that there were errors in the installation preparation and I can't seem to get around this one. Well let's say I am in a loop sort of. Please can anybody who has done a similar thing or just have a better idea how I can go about installing FreeBSD on my PC, help me.. Any help would be greatly appreciated Johnson Kudzo Baton Rouge, Lousiana. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 17:43:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA29609 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 17:43:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA29601; Thu, 8 May 1997 17:43:33 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199705090043.RAA29601@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: ESCAPE! Florida Cruise/Vacation $598/4 People To: luomat@peak.org Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 17:43:33 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199705082235.SAA00342@kira.peak.org> from "Timothy J. Luoma" at May 8, 97 06:35:42 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > > > ********************************************* > > This is a SPECIAL FLORIDA PROMOTION > > brought to you by Cape Canaveral Cruise Line! > > ********************************************* > > So uh... time to restrict posting to members of the mailing list? > we have considered only accepting mail from those that are already subscribed...this means from the address that they used to subscribe...a number of people have more thatn 1 email address this wouldforce them to always use the same address when sending mail to the list. and god help those whose mail is forwarded we need a better solution jmb -- Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Core Team, Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD--4.4BSD Unix for PC clones, source included. http://www.freebsd.org/ PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 18:22:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA01084 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 18:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inet-tsb.toshiba.co.jp (inet-tsb.toshiba.co.jp [202.33.96.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA01076 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 18:22:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tis2.tis.toshiba.co.jp by inet-tsb.toshiba.co.jp (8.6.12+2.5W/3.3W9-04/12/95) id KAA19280; Fri, 9 May 1997 10:22:22 +0900 Received: from mx.toshiba.co.jp (mx) by tis2.tis.toshiba.co.jp (5.67+1.6W/3.3W9-TOSHIBA-SERVER) id AA11617; Fri, 9 May 97 10:22:21 JST Received: from is.eec.toshiba.co.jp by toshiba.co.jp (8.7.1+2.6Wbeta4/3.3W9-TOSHIBA-GLOBAL SERVER) id KAA04782; Fri, 9 May 1997 10:22:19 +0900 (JST) Received: from hdq3210.eec.toshiba.co.jp ([133.199.32.10]) by is.eec.toshiba.co.jp (8.8.5/3.5W) with SMTP id KAA26545 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 10:20:12 +0900 (JST) Received: from nanosya.hdq3210.eec.toshiba.co.jp ([202.48.232.79]) by hdq3210.eec.toshiba.co.jp (4.1/6.4J.6-R1) id AA20733; Fri, 9 May 97 10:21:00 JST Message-Id: <9705090121.AA00052@nanosya.hdq3210.eec.toshiba.co.jp> From: itoh@hdq3210.eec.toshiba.co.jp (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCMEtGIxsoSg==?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQ2lLLhsoSg==?=) Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 10:21:31 +0900 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Question_MAIL Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AL-Mail 1.30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello! Itoh is called. You take care of. Version of FreeBSD,It is 2.1.6. A setup of Gateway,It is making YES. Recognition of LAN Bord,It is vx0 and vx1. vx0 is recognized normally. The error has come out of vx1. Error Message by "3COM 3C900 Ether LINK not configured ; kernel is built for only 1 device probing for deviceis on the bas" $B!y!y!y!y!y!y!y!y!y!y!y!y!y!y!y!y!y!y!y!y!y!y!y!y!y(J $B!y(J E-Mail$B!'(Jtadakuni@2lji.hon.most.toshiba.co.jp $B!y(J $B!y(J itoh@hdq3210.eec.toshiba.co.jp $B!!!y(J $B!y!y!y!y!y!y!y!y!y!y!y!y!y!y!y!y!y!y!y!y!y!y!y!y!y(J ...Over From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 19:00:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA02850 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 19:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.184.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA02837 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 19:00:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman.concentric.net [207.155.184.71]) by darius.concentric.net (8.8.5/(97/04/23 3.28)) id WAA05595; Thu, 8 May 1997 22:00:20 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from 61007d0024la.concentric.net (61007d0024la.concentric.net [206.173.239.180]) by newman.concentric.net (8.8.5) id WAA24810; Thu, 8 May 1997 22:00:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by 61007d0024la.concentric.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BC5BE2.0E287440@61007d0024la.concentric.net>; Thu, 8 May 1997 19:00:11 -0700 Message-ID: <01BC5BE2.0E287440@61007d0024la.concentric.net> From: Hayes To: "'questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: I'm Dead??? Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 19:00:00 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id TAA02839 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I just recently bought and tried Installing FreeBSD 2.1.6. The CD that I purchased came with 2 CD's and for some reason It never asked me for the second. I tried installing 3 different ways. First I tried using the Fips utility on your CD to split my existing DOS partition. Once I did that I tried installing and part way through the installation it gave me an error saying something like "error 10 caught, I'm dead" or "fatal exception 10 caught, I'm Dead". It was something like that. I didn't write it down but I'm pretty sure it was something of that sort. Trying to install it a second time, I booted off of a floppy which brought me directly into the installation program.... To make a long story short, I removed all the partitions and had it use the entire disk. It did the same thing as before, Third time I let it write to sector 0 of the Drive and tried installing. Every Time I tried installing before this point I did a custom installation. The last time I tried installing I selected minimum. And It gave me the same error. Every time that the message came up I rebooted the computer. I can't think of what the problem might be... I thought It might not be reading the CD after a certain point but I partitioned the drive and BSD was the only thing on it... Thought it might be an error in the selection I was picking but did custom and minimum. You guys are the techs, what do you think this is? Any help installing would be greatly appreciated. From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 19:30:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA04528 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 19:30:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tok.qiv.com ([204.214.141.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA04522; Thu, 8 May 1997 19:30:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tok.qiv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with UUCP id VAA26268; Thu, 8 May 1997 21:30:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (jdn@localhost) by acp.qiv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA01112; Thu, 8 May 1997 21:00:17 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: acp.qiv.com: jdn owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 21:00:16 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jay D. Nelson" To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: luomat@peak.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ESCAPE! Florida Cruise/Vacation $598/4 People In-Reply-To: <199705090043.RAA29601@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have recently installed the macros at: http://www.informatic.uni-kiel.de/~ca/email/check.html Thanks to Dan Busarow for the pointer! They work reasonably well, but by themselves don't solve the complete problem. The perversity of these people amaze me. However, it is an excellent start. I would recommend starting with that. [Rant on] Spam, in general, is really getting my shorts in a knot. UUCP is beginning to look even better! I think I'd rather pay for what I want than have these bastards _make_ me pay for trash. [Rant off] -- Jay On Thu, 8 May 1997, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: ->Timothy J. Luoma wrote: ->> ->> ->> > ********************************************* ->> > This is a SPECIAL FLORIDA PROMOTION ->> > brought to you by Cape Canaveral Cruise Line! ->> > ********************************************* ->> ->> So uh... time to restrict posting to members of the mailing list? ->> -> -> we have considered only accepting mail from those that are already -> subscribed...this means from the address that they used to -> subscribe...a number of people have more thatn 1 email address -> this wouldforce them to always use the same address when sending -> mail to the list. and god help those whose mail is forwarded -> -> we need a better solution ->jmb ->-- ->Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Core Team, Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG ->FreeBSD--4.4BSD Unix for PC clones, source included. http://www.freebsd.org/ ->PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB -> From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 21:41:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA09955 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 21:41:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hera.ecs.csus.edu (hera.ecs.csus.edu [130.86.71.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA09945 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 21:41:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gaia.ecs.csus.edu (gaia.ecs.csus.edu [130.86.71.9]) by hera.ecs.csus.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA21209 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 21:41:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sithoa@localhost) by gaia.ecs.csus.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA01009; Thu, 8 May 1997 21:40:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 21:40:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Allen Sitho To: FreeBSD Subject: Help with Wd 2.5 gig drive Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I try to install FreeBSD on another machine today. It is a Cyrix 80 with Opti Chipset. It has 80meg for the 1 drive and a 2.5gig WD drive the second drive. When I boot I saw that Biosdrive : 0 and wdc0 not found at 0x1f0 and wdc1 not found at 0x170. I have checked that the IRQ are okay but I am afraid the port address are not. How can I find out the correct port address in dos only? I have tried the bios but found nothing. IT is Award Bios. ooooo ooooo $$$$$$$$o o$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$o$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$ Allen Sitho $$$$ "$$$$ $$$$" "$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$" ""$$$$$$$$$$$"" ""$$$$$"" "$" From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 23:05:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA13315 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 23:05:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from admin.cyberenet.net (mail@admin.cyberenet.net [204.213.252.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA13303 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 23:05:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twwells.com [199.79.159.1] (root) by admin.cyberenet.net with smtp (Exim 1.61 #7) id 0wPing-0002C7-00; Fri, 9 May 1997 02:05:05 -0400 Received: by twwells.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0wPimE-0000oCC; Fri, 9 May 97 02:03 EDT Message-Id: From: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Subject: scsi MEDIUM ERRORS? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 02:03:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I just installed a new 2.1G scsi disk on my 2.1.5 system and got these errors: (lots of these, with different "info" values) sd2(aha0:2:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:a246b asc:11,1 Read retries exhausted and: sd2(aha0:2:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:a2797 asc:11,0 Unrecovered read error sd2(aha0:2:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:a2797 asc:11,1 Read retries exhausted sd2(aha0:2:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:a2797 asc:11,0 Unrecovered read error sd2(aha0:2:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:a2797 asc:11,1 Read retries exhausted sd2(aha0:2:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:a2797 asc:11,0 Unrecovered read error sd2(aha0:2:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:a2797 asc:13,0 Address mark not found for data field sd2(aha0:2:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:a2797 asc:11,0 Unrecovered read error I thought scsi was supposed to deal with these sort of things? Is there something I need to do to make these go away? From owner-freebsd-questions Thu May 8 23:09:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA13522 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 8 May 1997 23:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from narcissus.ml.org (root@brosenga.Pitzer.edu [134.173.120.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA13512 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 23:09:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ben@localhost) by narcissus.ml.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA08329; Thu, 8 May 1997 23:09:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 23:09:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Snob Art Genre To: Tim Oneil cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fvwm2 In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970508085141.0098a2b0@visigenic.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Here you go. On Thu, 8 May 1997, Tim Oneil wrote: > Would someone mind sending me the example > .fvwm2rc config file? It doesn't appear to > have been installed with the window manager, > even a recursive search of my drive won't > reveal it, and without one example file I'm > not getting very far in customizing it. > fBSD 2.2.1 as a whole however is rocking! Thanks > to the guys who answered my question about the > fonts for xterm too. > > -Tim > > # this is a sample .fvwmrc file for fvwm-2. # Apparantly, you can retrieve sample .fvwmrc's from # ftp://ftp.best.com/pub/tdgilman/Fvwmrcs # you can also submit your favourite .fvwmrc to # tdgilman@best.com # if you want to. # small up triangle ButtonStyle 2 4 50x35@1 65x65@0 35x65@0 50x35@1 # small down triangle ButtonStyle 4 4 50x65@1 35x35@1 65x35@1 50x65@0 # some other ButtonStyles: # large up triangle #ButtonStyle 2 4 50x25@1 75x75@0 25x75@0 50x25@1 # large down triangle #ButtonStyle 4 4 50x75@1 25x25@1 75x25@1 50x75@0 # big box #ButtonStyle 2 5 25x25@1 25x75@1 75x75@0 75x25@0 25x25@1 # little box #ButtonStyle 8 5 40x40@1 60x40@1 60x60@0 40x60@0 40x40@1 # tall box #ButtonStyle 6 5 40x25@1 60x25@1 60x75@0 40x75@0 40x25@1 # dot #ButtonStyle 4 5 45x45@1 55x45@1 55x55@0 45x55@0 45x45@1 # an up arrow: #ButtonStyle 2 8 40x80@1 40x50@1 20x50@1 50x20@1 80x50@0 60x50@0 60x80@0 40x80@0 # an X #ButtonStyle 3 13 26x29@1 34x21@1 50x35@1 70x21@1 79x29@1 63x48@0 79x65@1 70x75@0 50x61@0 34x75@0 26x65@0 44x48@1 26x29@0 EdgeResistance 250 10 WindowFont -adobe-times-bold-r-*-*-18-*-*-*-*-*-*-* IconFont -adobe-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-* EdgeScroll 0 0 ModulePath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fvwm PixmapPath /usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps/ IconPath /usr/X11R6/include/X11/bitmaps/ HilightColor black palevioletred DeskTopSize 1x1 MenuStyle #f0f0ff #070070 grey40 -adobe-times-bold-r-*-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-* fvwm ClickTime 750 ColormapFocus FollowsMouse Style "*" ClickToFocus Style "*" BorderWidth 5, HandleWidth 5 Style "*" Icon unknown1.xpm, Color Black/#40a0c0 Style "*" SmartPlacement Style "*" MWMFunctions,MWMDecor,HintOverride Style "*" DecorateTransient,IconBox 0 -10 -280 -1 Style "Fvwm*" NoTitle, NoHandles, Sticky, WindowListSkip, Style "Fvwm*" BorderWidth 0,CirculateSkipIcon Style "Fvwm Pager" StaysOnTop Style "FvwmPager" StaysOnTop Style "FvwmBanner" StaysOnTop Style "FvwmButtons" NoTitle, NoHandles, Sticky, WindowListSkip Style "FvwmButtons" BorderWidth 0, CirculateSkip Style "FvwmButtons" Icon toolbox.xpm,ClickToFocus Style "*lock" NoTitle, NoHandles, Sticky, WindowListSkip Style "*lock" RandomPlacement Style "xbiff" NoTitle, Sticky, WindowListSkip,ClickToFocus Style "xload" NoTitle, Sticky, WindowListSkip,ClickToFocus Style "xload" color Gray/Gray #Style "Pine" Icon /home/ben/src/pine3.95/contrib/bitmaps/unixware/pine.icon Style "asclock" NoTitle, Sticky, WindowListSkip,ClickToFocus Style "Maker" StartsOnDesk 1,RandomPlacement,ClickToFocus Style "matlab" StartsOnDesk 3 Style "signal" StartsOnDesk 3 Style "rxvt" Icon term.xpm,SloppyFocus,IconBox -70 1 -1 -140 Style "XTerm" Icon xterm.xpm,IconBox -70 1 -1 -140 Style "XTerm" Color black/#aa80aa,MWMBorder,MWMButtons Style "Appointment" Icon datebook.xpm, NoButton 2, NoButton 4,ClickToFocus Style "xcalc" Icon xcalc.xpm, NoButton 2,RandomPlacement,ClickToFocus Style "xmh" Icon mail1.xpm, NoIconTitle,StickyIcon Style "xmh" RandomPlacement, StartsOnDesk 2, NoButton 2 Style "xman" Icon xman.xpm,RandomPlacement,ClickToFocus Style "xvgr" Icon graphs.xpm,RandomPlacement,ClickToFocus Style "matlab" Icon math4.xpm,ClickToFocus Style "xmag" Icon mag_glass.xpm,RandomPlacement, ClickToFocus Style "xgraph" Icon graphs.xpm,RandomPlacement,ClickToFocus Style "sppeed6" Icon math3.xpm,NoTitle,ClickToFocus Style "sppeed6_user" Icon math4.xpm,NoTitle Style "xmosaic" NoPPosition, color Green/Yellow,ClickToFocus #Key Left A C Scroll -100 0 #Key Right A C Scroll +100 +0 #Key Up A C Scroll +0 -100 #Key Down A C Scroll +0 +100 #Key Left A M Scroll -10 +0 #Key Right A M Scroll +10 +0 #Key Up A M Scroll +0 -10 #Key Down A M Scroll +0 +10 Key Left A C CursorMove -1 0 Key Right A C CursorMove +1 +0 Key Up A C CursorMove +0 -1 Key Down A C CursorMove +0 +1 Key Left A MC CursorMove -10 +0 Key Right A MC CursorMove +10 +0 Key Up A MC CursorMove +0 -10 Key Down A MC CursorMove +0 +10 Key F1 A M Popup "Utilities" Key F2 A M Popup "Window-Ops" Key F3 A M Resize Key F4 A M Iconify Key F5 A M Move Key F6 A M Module FvwmWinList Key F7 A M Next [*] focus Key F8 A M Prev [*] focus Key F10 A A Next [CurrentDesk rxvt]Focus Key F11 A A Prev [CurrentDesk rxvt]Focus Key F15 FTIWS A Raise # My key-bindings Key Tab A M Next [*] focus Key Tab A SM Prev [*] focus Key a A M Exec exec xterm -j -geometry 80x50+250+20 -sb -sl 5000 -e tcsh & Key b A M Exec exec ~/bin/bbs & Key q A CM quit key q A SM restart fvwm Mouse 1 R A Menu Utilities Nop Mouse 2 R A Menu Window-Ops Nop Mouse 3 R A WindowList Mouse 0 1 A Menu Window-Ops2 Close Mouse 0 2 A Maximize-Func Mouse 0 4 A Iconify Mouse 1 F A Resize-or-Raise Mouse 1 TS A Move-or-Raise Mouse 1 I A Move-or-Iconify Mouse 2 I A Iconify Mouse 2 FST A Menu Window-Ops2 Nop Mouse 3 TSIF A RaiseLower ########################Initialization Functions ############################ #AddToFunc InitFunction #"I" Module FvwmButtons #+ "I" exec xsetroot -mod 2 2 -fg \#554055 -bg \#705070 #+ "I" exec xsetroot -solid steelblue AddToFunc RestartFunction #"I" Module FvwmButtons #+ "I" exec xsetroot -mod 2 2 -fg \#554055 -bg \#705070 #+ "I" exec xsetroot -solid steelblue ########################Menus ######################################## AddToMenu Animations "Animations" Title + "Flame" Exec exec xlock -remote -inroot -mode flame & + "Grav" Exec exec xlock -remote -inroot -mode grav & + "Pyro" Exec exec xlock -remote -inroot -mode pyro & + "Qix" Exec exec xlock -remote -inroot -mode qix & + "Rock" Exec exec xlock -remote -inroot -mode rock & #this one dumps core, let's comment it out for now. #+ "Spiral Exec exec xlock -remote -inroot -mode spiral & + "Spline" Exec exec xlock -remote -inroot -mode spline & + "Swarm" Exec exec xlock -remote -inroot -mode swarm & + "Worm" Exec exec xlock -remote -inroot -mode worm & # Stop the animation in the background + "Make it stop" Exec exec kill -9 $(ps aux | grep xlock | grep -v grep | awk '{print $2}') + "Reset BG" Exec exec xsetroot -solid steelblue AddToMenu Terminals "Terminals" Title + "Tallterm" Exec exec xterm -j -g 80x50+250+20 -sb -sl 5000 -e tcsh & + "Xterm" Exec exec xterm -j -sb -sl 5000 -e tcsh & + "8x16 Xterm" Exec exec xterm -j -sb -sl 5000 -fn 8x16 -e tcsh & + "8x16 Tallterm" Exec exec xterm -j -g 80x50 -sb -sl 5000 -fn 8x16 -e tcsh & AddToMenu RemHosts "Remote Hosts" Title + "Echo" Exec exec xterm.old -j -geometry 80x50+250+20 -sb -sl 5000 -e telnet echonyc.com & + "Drizzle" Exec exec xterm.old -j -geometry 80x50+250+20 -sb -sl 5000 -e telnet drizzle.com & + "Orion" Exec exec xterm.old -j -geometry 80x50+250+20 -sb -sl 5000 -e telnet orion.ac.hmc.edu & + "Calvin" Exec exec xterm.old -j -geometry 80x50+250+20 -sb -sl 5000 -e telnet calvin.pitzer.edu & AddToMenu Console "Console" Title + "Cd Player" Exec exec xcdplayer & + "Mixer" Exec exec xmix & + "Sysinfo" Exec exec xsysinfo -nonfs & AddToMenu Misc "Misc" Title + "Crontab" Exec exec xterm.old -g 80x12 -e crontab -e & + "Galaga" Exec exec xgal & + "Pine" Exec exec xterm.old -g 80x50+200+20 -e /usr/home/ben/bin/xpine & + "Top" Exec exec xterm.old -j -geometry 80x50 -T Top -n Top -e top & + "Calculator" Exec exec xcalc & + "Fractal" Exec exec nice -15 imsmap -install -root -ncolors 163 -timeout 30 & + "Make it stop" Exec exec kill -9 $(ps aux | grep imsmap | grep -v grep | awk '{print $2}') AddToMenu Utilities "Utilities" Title + "Terminals" Popup Terminals + "" Nop + "Remote Hosts" Popup RemHosts + "" Nop + "Xemacs" Exec exec xemacs & + "BBS" Exec exec ~/bin/bbs & + "Netscape" Exec exec netscape -geometry +220+10 & + "" Nop + "Console" Popup Console + "" Nop + "Animations" Popup Animations + "" Nop + "Misc" Popup Misc + "" Nop + " " Nop + "" Nop + "Exit Fvwm" Popup Quit-Verify AddToMenu Window-Ops "Window Ops" Title + "Move" Move-or-Raise2 + "Resize" Resize-or-Raise2 + "Raise" Raise + "Lower" Lower + "(De)Iconify" Iconify + "(Un)Stick" Stick + "(Un)Maximize" maximize_func + "" Nop + "Delete" Delete + "Close" Close + "Destroy" Destroy + "" Nop + "Refresh Screen" Refresh AddToMenu Window-Ops2 "Move" Move-or-Raise + "Resize" Resize-or-Raise + "Raise" Raise + "Lower" Lower + "Iconify" Iconify + "(Un)Stick" Stick + "" Nop + "Delete" Delete + "Close" Close + "Destroy" Destroy + "" Nop + "ScrollBar" Module FvwmScroll 2 2 + "Print" PrintFunction AddToMenu Remote-Logins "dopey" Exec rsh dopey rxvt -display $HOSTDISPLAY & + "snoopy" Exec rsh snoopy rxvt -display $HOSTDISPLAY & + "grumpy" Exec rsh grumpy rxvt -display $HOSTDISPLAY & + "happy" Exec rsh happy rxvt -display $HOSTDISPLAY & + "bailey" Exec rsh bailey rxvt -display $HOSTDISPLAY & + "barnum" Exec rsh barnum rxvt -display $HOSTDISPLAY & + "joker" Exec rsh joker rxvt -display $HOSTDISPLAY & + "signal" Exec rxterm signal #AddToMenu Module-Popup "Modules" Title #+ "Button-Bar" Module FvwmButtons #+ "Clean-Up" Module FvwmClean #+ "Identify" Module FvwmIdent #+ "SaveDesktop" Module FvwmSave #+ "Debug" Module FvwmDebug #+ "Pager" Module FvwmPager 0 1 #+ "WinList" Module FvwmWinList #+ "Background" Module FvwmBacker #+ "IconBox" Module FvwmIconBox #+ "Banner" Module FvwmBanner #+ "Talk" Module FvwmTalk #+ "Prompt" Module FvwmPrompt "hello" raise AddToMenu Quit-Verify "Really Quit Fvwm?" Title + "Restart Fvwm" Restart fvwm + "" Nop + " " Nop + "" Nop + "Yes, Really Quit" Quit #+ "Start twm" Restart twm #+ "Start mwm" Restart mwm #+ "Start olwm" Restart /usr/openwin/bin/olwm #+ "Start tvtwm" Restart tvtwm #+ "Start dummy" Restart xterm #+ "" Nop #+ "No, Don't Quit" Nop ########################Functions ######################################## AddToFunc MailFunction "I" Next [$0] Iconify -1 + "I" Next [$0] focus + "I" None [$0] Exec $0 $1 AddToFunc Move-or-Raise "I" Raise + "M" Move + "D" Lower AddToFunc Move-or-Raise2 "M" Raise + "M" Move + "D" Lower AddToFunc Maximize-Func "M" Maximize 0 100 + "C" Maximize 0 80 + "D" Maximize 100 100 AddToFunc Move-or-Iconify "I" Raise + "M" Move + "D" Iconify AddToFunc Resize-or-Raise "I" Raise + "M" Resize + "D" Lower AddToFunc Resize-or-Raise2 "M" Raise + "M" Resize + "D" Lower AddToFunc PrintFunction "I" Raise + "I" Exec xdpr -id $w AddToFunc Iconify-and-Raise "I" Iconify + "I" Raise ################## FvwmButtons button-bar ################################ # Colors *FvwmButtonsFore Black *FvwmButtonsBack #908090 # Font *FvwmButtonsFont -adobe-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-* # Geometry - really likes to pick its own size, but giving a position is OK *FvwmButtonsGeometry -1-1 # Layout: specify rows or columns, not both *FvwmButtonsRows 2 # xterm or rxvts on remote machines can be done like this # Output re-direction is csh style, not sh style # You will want to substitute your own hosts here! #*FvwmButtons Dopey rterm.xpm Exec "XTerm" rsh dopey "exec rxvt -T dopey -display $HOSTDISPLAY &/dev/null & "& #*FvwmButtons Grumpy rterm.xpm Exec "XTerm" rsh grumpy "exec rxvt -T grumpy -display $HOSTDISPLAY &/dev/null & "& #*FvwmButtons Snoopy rterm.xpm Exec "XTerm" rsh snoopy "exec rxvt -T snoopy -display $HOSTDISPLAY &/dev/null & "& #*FvwmButtons signal rterm.xpm Exec "XTerm" rxterm signal & #*FvwmButtons mail mail2.xpm Function MailFunction xmh "-font fixed" #*FvwmButtons whatever clock.xpm Swallow "Clock" Exec rclock -bg \#908090 -geometry -1500-1500 -font -*-times-*-r-*-*-17-*-*-*-*-*-*-* -mailupdate 10 & #*FvwmButtons(4x1) - whatever Swallow "FvwmPager" Module FvwmPager 0 3 ########################## Window-Identifier ############################### # Just choose colors and a fonts *FvwmIdentBack MidnightBlue *FvwmIdentFore Yellow *FvwmIdentFont -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-* ########################### Pager ######################################### *FvwmPagerBack #908090 *FvwmPagerFore #484048 *FvwmPagerFont -adobe-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-* *FvwmPagerHilight #cab3ca *FvwmPagerGeometry -1-1 *FvwmPagerLabel 0 Misc *FvwmPagerLabel 1 Maker *FvwmPagerLabel 2 Mail *FvwmPagerLabel 3 Matlab *FvwmPagerSmallFont 5x8 ##########################FvwmWinList################################## *FvwmWinListBack #908090 *FvwmWinListFore Black *FvwmWinListFont -adobe-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-10-*-*-*-*-*-*-* *FvwmWinListAction Click1 Iconify -1,Focus *FvwmWinListAction Click2 Iconify *FvwmWinListAction Click3 Module "FvwmIdent" FvwmIdent *FvwmWinListUseSkipList *FvwmWinListGeometry +0-1 *FvwmBackerDesk 0 -solid steelblue *FvwmBackerDesk 1 -solid midnightblue *FvwmScrollBack grey40 *FvwmScrollFore green ############################################################ ############################################################ # Note that icons are shown in the module # only if NoIcon commnand is applied. #Style "*" NoIcon ############################################################ *FvwmIconBoxIconBack #cfcfcf *FvwmIconBoxIconHiFore black *FvwmIconBoxIconHiBack LightSkyBlue *FvwmIconBoxBack #5f9ea0 #*FvwmIconBoxFore blue *FvwmIconBoxGeometry 5x1+0+0 *FvwmIconBoxMaxIconSize 64x38 *FvwmIconBoxFont -adobe-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-* *FvwmIconBoxSortIcons IconName *FvwmIconBoxPadding 4 *FvwmIconBoxLines 10 *FvwmIconBoxSBWidth 11 *FvwmIconBoxPlacement Left Top *FvwmIconBoxPixmap fvwm.xpm #*FvwmIconBoxHideSC Horizontal *FvwmIconBoxSetWMIconSize *FvwmIconBoxHilightFocusWin #*FvwmIconBoxResolution Desk *FvwmIconBoxMouse 1 Click RaiseLower *FvwmIconBoxMouse 1 DoubleClick Iconify *FvwmIconBoxMouse 2 Click Iconify -1, Focus *FvwmIconBoxMouse 3 Click Module FvwmIdent *FvwmIconBoxKey r RaiseLower *FvwmIconBoxKey space Iconify *FvwmIconBoxKey d Close *FvwmIconBoxKey n Next *FvwmIconBoxKey p Prev *FvwmIconBoxKey h Left *FvwmIconBoxKey j Down *FvwmIconBoxKey k Up *FvwmIconBoxKey l Right # # Icon file specifications # # Mostly, you don't have to specify icon files, as FvwmIconBox now # reads icon files specified in Style commands. # *FvwmIconBox "Fvwm*" - From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 00:14:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA17278 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 00:14:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kevin.sunshine.net (pme44.sunshine.net [204.191.205.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA17257 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 00:14:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cagey@localhost) by kevin.sunshine.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA00319; Fri, 9 May 1997 00:10:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 00:10:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin Eliuk Reply-To: Kevin Eliuk To: FreeBSD-questions cc: "Sunshine.net Support" Subject: MAILER-DAEMON Message Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have something trapped in my /var/spool/mqueue that I would like some info on. My box is connected to internet via dialup. Below is file :qfWAA00104 [ ... Begin ... ] V2 T862982731 K0 N0 P4892079 I0/196613/117 Mhost map: lookup (pipeline.net): deferred Fr $rinternal $slocalhost $_localhost SMAILER-DAEMON RPF:<2358945567@pipeline.net> H?P?Return-Path: HReceived: from localhost (localhost) by kevin.sunshine.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with internal id WAA00104; Tue, 6 May 1997 22:25:31 -0700 (PDT) H?D?Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 22:25:31 -0700 (PDT) H?F?From: Mail Delivery Subsystem H?x?Full-Name: Mail Delivery Subsystem H?M?Message-Id: <199705070525.WAA00104@kevin.sunshine.net> HTo: <2358945567@pipeline.net> HMIME-Version: 1.0 HContent-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary="WAA00104.862982732/kevin.sunshine.net" HSubject: Returned mail: Cannot send message within 5 days HAuto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) . [ ... End ... ] ... and the accompanying mail ... [ ... Begin ... ] This is a MIME-encapsulated message --WAA00104.862982732/kevin.sunshine.net The original message was received at Thu, 1 May 1997 21:43:08 -0700 (PDT) from hermes.zynet.net [194.154.160.251] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 451 <2358945567@pipeline.net>... pipeline.net: Name server timeout 451 <2358945567@pipeline.net>... pipeline.net: Name server timeout 451 ... pme45.sunshine.net: Name server timeout 451 <2358945567@pipeline.net>... pipeline.net: Name server timeout Message could not be delivered for 5 days Message will be deleted from queue 451 <2358945567@pipeline.net>... pipeline.net: Name server timeout --WAA00104.862982732/kevin.sunshine.net Content-Type: message/delivery-status Reporting-MTA: dns; kevin.sunshine.net Arrival-Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 21:43:08 -0700 (PDT) Final-Recipient: RFC822; beyond_20/20-0112961354270001@pme45.sunshine.net Action: failed Status: 4.4.7 Last-Attempt-Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 22:25:32 -0700 (PDT) --WAA00104.862982732/kevin.sunshine.net Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: <2358945567@pipeline.net> Received: from hermes.zynet.net (hermes.zynet.net [194.154.160.251]) by kevin.sunshine.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA00597 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 21:43:08 -0700 (PDT) From: 2358945567@pipeline.net Received: from psyche.zynet.co.uk (psyche.zynet.net [194.154.160.2]) by hermes.zynet.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA26064; Thu, 1 May 1997 20:29:45 +0100 (BST) Received: from mail.zynet.co.uk (200-196-90.ipt.aol.com [152.200.196.90]) by psyche.zynet.co.uk (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA14249; Thu, 1 May 1997 20:28:21 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199705011928.UAA14249@psyche.zynet.co.uk> To: Friend@public.com Date: Thu, 01 May 97 11:34:41 EST Subject: INTERNET CREDIT APPROVAL LETTER INTERNET CREDIT CARD APPROVAL LETTER (ACTIVATION NUMBER: 1-702-733-9400) CASH ADVANCE APPROVED:YES APPROVAL NUMBER:000-4777001 CREDIT LIMIT:$2,000.00 APPROVAL EXPIRES:05/31/97 CREDIT PROVIDER:CMM BANK AFFILIATION:NONE CARD ISSUED:MONEYFIRSTCARD MEMBER STATUS:PENDING ANNUAL FEE:NONE APR:17.99% DEAR FUTURE CARDHOLDER, CONGRATULATIONS! YOU HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR A $2,000.00 UNSECURED CREDIT LINE FROM THE FINANCIAL CARD DIVISION OF CMM BASED ON THE INFORMATION WE HAVE ON FILE REGARDLESS OF PAST CREDIT. YOUR APPROVAL NUMBER IS 000-4777001 AND YOUR APPROVED CREDIT AMOUNT OF $2,000.00 FOR CREDIT PURCHASES AND CASH ADVANCES WILL BE AVAILABLE ONCE YOU RECEIVE YOUR MONEYFIRSTCARD JUST BY CALLING NOW! AS A MEMBERSHIP BENEFIT, YOU WILL BE PROCESSED* AT NO COST FOR AN UNSECURED MAJOR CREDIT CARD WITH A CREDIT LINE OF UP TO $2,000.00 REGARDLESS OF PAST CREDIT. SEND NO MONEY NOW - THERE IS NO SECURITY OR MONEY DEPOSITS REQUIRED! CALL IMMEDIATELY WITH YOUR APPROVAL NUMBER TO ACTIVATE YOUR MEMBERSHIP AND ITS BENEFITS. BY ACTING NOW - WE'LL ASSIGN YOUR MONEYFIRSTCARD WITHIN THE NEXT 48 HOURS AND THEN APPLY YOUR ONE TIME MEMBERSHIP FEE BY THE PAYMENT METHOD YOU PREFER. IN ADDITION, YOU'LL RECEIVE $100.00 OFF YOUR FIRST CREDIT PURCHASE OVER $200.00 WITH THE MONEYFIRSTCARD JUST BY CALLING NOW! GETTING MORE CREDIT IS AS SIMPLE AS CALLING US TODAY TO ACTIVATE YOUR MEMBERSHIP AND TO OBTAIN YOUR PIN CODE FOR CASH ADVANCES BEFORE YOUR APPROVAL EXPIRES. SO CALL NOW AND GET THE CREDIT YOU DESERVE. 100% QUALITY ASSURANCE AND NO LESS! SINCERELY, J. A. MILLER PRESIDENT CALL RIGHT NOW (IF BUSY KEEP TRYING) ***** 1-702-733-9400 ***** FOR IMMEDIATE ACTIVATION AND ESTABLISH YOUR CREDIT TODAY! * YOU MUST CALL TO OBTAIN YOUR PIN CODE FOR CASH ADVANCES AND FOR MEMBERSHIP ACCEPTANCE ALONG WITH OBTAINING COMPLETE DETAILS OUTLINING OUR PROGRAM! --WAA00104.862982732/kevin.sunshine.net-- [ ... End ... ] I have recieved none of the normal warning messages in pine about unable to send message. The only reason I picked this up was through `kevin daily run output'. With all the talk about spam, I was curious if my mailbox was being used as a "host" of sorts? Thanks. PS I've moved the files to where they are harmless ;-) _______________________________________ |\ /| If I hadn't asked | \ kevin_eliuk@sunshine.net / | the questions I asked, | \ Kevin G. Eliuk / | I wouldn't be answering | /^\_________________________/^\ | the questions I'm answering. | / \ | |/--===### Powered By FreeBSD 2.2.1 \| | www.freebsd.org | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 01:03:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA19471 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 01:03:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thelonious.spidome.net (thelonious.spidome.net [205.153.247.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA19466 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 01:03:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daniel@localhost) by thelonious.spidome.net (8.8.3/8.8.3) id IAA11571; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:02:27 GMT Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 08:02:27 GMT Message-Id: <199705090802.IAA11571@thelonious.spidome.net> From: Daniel Odom MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: JDK/Kaffe X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I can't get java to work, and judging by the mailing list archives, neither can anyone else :-). I get the "cannot find class java/lang/Thread" error from javac and kaffe core dumps and complains about an exception and a null object. Any ideas? Has anyone made it work? -- Daniel Odom Software engineer daniel@spidome.net voice: 913-625-6124 fax: 913-625-6967 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 02:27:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA22742 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 02:27:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rpops002.rp-online.de (rpops002.rp-online.de [149.221.232.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA22736 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 02:27:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [149.221.235.76] (rpp-as1-pri76.online-club.de [149.221.235.76]) by rpops002.rp-online.de (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id LAA25799 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 11:27:37 +0200 (METDST) Message-Id: <199705090927.LAA25799@rpops002.rp-online.de> To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Additional information Date: Fri, 09 May 97 11:28:19 -0500 From: New User X-Mailer: E-Mail Connection v2.5.03 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk -- [ From: New User * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] -- In yesterday's mail I wrote to you about not being able to make my CD-ROM run. Actually, this is no loonger the problem: I could install FreeBSD from CD-ROM and I could mount the device. But whwnever I turn the computer off or "reset" it, the device is no longer found, neither by doing changes in the configuration menu, nor by booting from a boot disk: at 0x340h, my CD-ROM is not found. What is to be done there? Do I have to compile a new kernel? Or can't I turn the computer off anymore ;-) ? I hope you will help me because FreeBSD appeared to me as a very good operating system. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 03:36:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA25877 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 03:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homer.duff-beer.com (mail@homer.duff-beer.com [194.207.51.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA25872; Fri, 9 May 1997 03:36:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from scot@localhost) by homer.duff-beer.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA05560; Fri, 9 May 1997 11:36:33 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 11:36:33 +0100 (BST) From: Scot Elliott To: Wolfram Schneider cc: Anthony Barlow , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Script to check if porgram is running In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 9 May 1997, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > if killall -0 radiusd; then : > else > radiusd & > fi My system doesn't have a killall command - I assume it's like the Linux version. So is it available as a FreeBSD package then? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scot Elliott scot@poptart.org Tel: +44 (0)171 2322924 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Public key available by finger at: finger scot@poptart.org or at: http://www.poptart.org/pgpkey.html From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 04:14:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA27608 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 04:14:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from axe.cablenet.net (axe.cablenet.net [194.154.36.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA27603 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 04:14:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from axe (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by axe.cablenet.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA03142; Fri, 9 May 1997 12:11:24 +0100 Message-ID: <33730650.446B9B3D@cablenet.net> Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 12:11:24 +0100 From: Damian Hamill Organization: CableNet Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.4 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" CC: freebsd@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ESCAPE! Florida Cruise/Vacation $598/4 People References: <16755.863158760@time.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > [interesting tome from Jordan about spamming deleted] As an ISP I would take part in any scheme to make life difficult for spammers and I would not knowingly take their business. I agree with Jordan that a) government (any government) won't even realise there is a problem, much less do anything about it until way too late b) co-operation and self regulation are our best options I was instrumental in the setting up of ISPA in the UK and I firmly believe that such organisations can co-operate together to provide information and assistance to allow ISPs to tackle this problem. The UK has the advantage that it has a single organisation that is recognised by the governemt/media etc. as the representative organisation for the industry. For example I would be prepared to block email and net traffic from named spammer domains or networks hosting spammers. Ideally I would like to setup a process to automatically download a list of said domains and networks from say vix.com or freebsd.org. I would want to redirect web traffic to a page explaining why it was blocked and probably listing blocked doamin/networks. I would also accept a list of personal details about spammers and refuse accounts to those people. However I would much rather do this as a measure recommended by my national ISP association rather than unilateraly. I would also like the whole thing to be automatic so once setup the the lists of blocked domain/networks/people would be updated automatically. Just my thoughts.. > But first and before any of this can happen, the ISPs need to grow up > and stop trying to poke eachother in the eyes with sticks and start > cooperating. Sadly, my perception of about 80% of the ISP market is > that they wouldn't paddle on the same side of the boat if they needed > to do so in order to escape an approaching tsunami, preferring instead > to drown rather than give eachother the time of day. > > That's not only sad, but if spammers take over the internet and break > it as a reasonable medium, it will be *solely* through poor business > practices (and even less ethics) like this, and the ISPs will be > squarely to blame for opening the gates to the barbarian hordes in > exchange for a piece of the action on their raping and pillaging. Yes Jordan .... you can calm down now. :-) regards damian -- * PIAB - PoP In A Box - the total solution for ISPs, with more features * than a Constable landscape, and very cheap too!! * http://www.cablenet.net/cablenet/popinabox/ * Damian Hamill damian@cablenet.net From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 04:29:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA28036 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 04:29:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA28031 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 04:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-132 [207.14.72.132]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA19824; Fri, 9 May 1997 02:26:20 -0800 Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 03:19:19 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: Bryce Newall cc: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Re: rz/sz In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 8 May 1997, Bryce Newall wrote: > the rzsz patch on my system, and am running into a slight problem. Any > > [51]root@voyager:/usr/ports/comms/rzsz # make NO_CHECKSUM=yes > ===> Extracting for rzsz-3.44 > ===> rzsz-3.44 depends on executable: unzip - found > ===> Patching for rzsz-3.44 > ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for rzsz-3.44 > 2 out of 18 hunks failed--saving rejects to rz.c.rej > *** Error code 2 yes - get zmtx-zmrx instead. rzsz is a Linux hack, and i had problems with it too (needed gmake, etc). zmtx-zmrx is smaller and better imho. the docs are fun to read in addition! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 06:22:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA01095 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 06:22:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury (mercury.kosone.com [199.246.2.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA01086 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 06:22:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wownet.kosone.com by mercury (SMI-8.6/KOS-SMI-SVR4) id JAA02204; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:22:35 -0400 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970509132735.0068a310@limestone.kosone.com> X-Sender: lmw@limestone.kosone.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 09:27:35 -0400 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: * * * * * Subject: bsd & modems Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id GAA01090 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I Have just received a copy of FreeBSD and would like to know you opions on what brand of digital board to use for attaching sixteen modems. 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LMW ° Web Page Design Bancroft, Ontario ° Web Page Maintenance K0L 1C0 ° Computer Hardware, Software and Internet consulting Bus Web: http://www.lmw.on.ca Bus Phone: (613) 332-1903 Bus Fax: (613) 332-0372 §§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§§ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 06:23:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA01125 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 06:23:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cyber3.servtech.com (root@cyber3.servtech.com [199.1.22.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA01120 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 06:23:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pr-comm.com (prcomm.roc.servtech.com [204.181.3.14]) by cyber3.servtech.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA25037 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:23:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from housley@localhost) by pr-comm.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA13225 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:22:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "James E. Housley" Posted-Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 09:22:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705091322.JAA13225@pr-comm.com> Subject: How do I use extended ASCII characters in gcc In-Reply-To: <199705082120.OAA20402@hub.freebsd.org> from "owner-questions-digest@FreeBSD.ORG" at "May 8, 97 02:20:56 pm" To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 09:22:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am writing/porting a program that uses the "extended" ASCII characters. The ones with bit 8 set. This is causing a "character constant too long" error. I am compiling with -fsigned-char. Is this the cause or is there something else I must do?? Jim Housley From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 06:24:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA01239 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 06:24:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (root@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA01235; Fri, 9 May 1997 06:24:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ole.cs.tu-berlin.de (wosch@ole.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.28.1]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA08253; Fri, 9 May 1997 15:24:05 +0200 (MET DST) From: Wolfram Schneider Received: (from wosch@localhost) by ole.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA16168; Fri, 9 May 1997 15:24:03 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199705091324.PAA16168@ole.cs.tu-berlin.de> Subject: Re: Script to check if porgram is running To: scot@poptart.org (Scot Elliott) Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 15:24:01 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: wosch@apfel.de, tony@mail.warp.co.uk, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Scot Elliott" at May 9, 97 11:36:33 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Scot Elliott > My system doesn't have a killall command - I assume it's like the Linux > version. So is it available as a FreeBSD package then? Killall is part of the base system since 1995/06/25. The current sources are available at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/src/usr.bin/killall/ -- Wolfram Schneider http://www.apfel.de/~wosch/ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 06:26:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA01419 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 06:26:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from echidna.bellcore.com (echidna.bellcore.com [192.4.18.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA01408 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 06:26:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wsm@localhost) by echidna.bellcore.com (8.6.9/8.6.10) id JAA00914 for questions@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:26:15 -0400 Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 09:26:15 -0400 From: wsm@bellcore.com (William S Marcus) Message-Id: <199705091326.JAA00914@echidna.bellcore.com> To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: is it possible to install from ... Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Quick question, is it possible to install FreeBSD from a PCMCIA CDRom? In particular I have a Panasonic KXL D720 PCMCIA CD-ROM. Any pointers would be most appreciated. Thanks Bill Marcus From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 06:27:24 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA01530 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 06:27:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hda.hda.com (hda-bicnet.bicnet.net [207.198.1.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA01522 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 06:27:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dufault@localhost) by hda.hda.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA21855; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:25:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Dufault Message-Id: <199705091325.JAA21855@hda.hda.com> Subject: Re: scsi MEDIUM ERRORS? In-Reply-To: from "T. William Wells" at "May 9, 97 02:03:34 am" To: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 09:25:37 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I just installed a new 2.1G scsi disk on my 2.1.5 system and got > these errors: > > (lots of these, with different "info" values) > sd2(aha0:2:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:a246b asc:11,1 Read retries exhausted (...) > I thought scsi was supposed to deal with these sort of things? Is > there something I need to do to make these go away? Note that these are unrecovered read errors. The SCSI spec doesn't permit the drive to fix these. Since this is a new drive, format it with scsiformat, verify that ARRE and AWRE are on in mode page 1, and then try again. It is disconcerting that you received the drive like this. -- Peter Dufault (dufault@hda.com) Realtime Machine Control and Simulation HD Associates, Inc. Voice: 508 433 6936 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 06:41:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA02552 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 06:41:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA02535; Fri, 9 May 1997 06:41:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from PEAK.ORG (root@PEAK.ORG [198.68.22.17]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA07093; Fri, 9 May 1997 06:10:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kira.peak.org (ppp8.nerc.com [205.247.120.192]) by PEAK.ORG (8.8.5/8.6.7) with ESMTP id FAA21211; Fri, 9 May 1997 05:51:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from luomat@localhost) by kira.peak.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA09325; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:51:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705091251.IAA09325@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.1mach v148) X-Image-URL: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: <199705090043.RAA29601@hub.freebsd.org> X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.1mach (Enhance 2.0b5.4) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Fri, 9 May 97 08:51:25 -0400 To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: ESCAPE! Florida Cruise/Vacation $598/4 People cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: luomat@peak.org References: <199705090043.RAA29601@hub.freebsd.org> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ X-NeXTStep-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next X-PGP-Key: Email me Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Responding To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Original Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 17:43:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <199705090043.RAA29601@hub.freebsd.org> > we have considered only accepting mail from those that are already > subscribed...this means from the address that they used to > subscribe...a number of people have more thatn 1 email address > this wouldforce them to always use the same address when sending > mail to the list. and god help those whose mail is forwarded A number of lists I am on already do this. I have different accounts, but if I want to post to the group from one of them I sign up and turn off the option to receive the messages from the group on that account. Also: how about checking that the list is mentioned in either the To or Cc line? Yes I know that that will prevent people from Bcc'ing the list, but who cares? Also: how about checking that there is a valid domainname in the 'from'? # whois FL-CRUISE.com No match for "FL-CRUISE.COM". (I believe that the latest sendmail can do this) You can also do, as someone else suggested, keyword checking on email from first-time posters, assuming that each spammer will only try once from each account or name? Yes I know that even these suggestions aren't perfect -- however together they form a pretty good first line of defense... TjL -- TjL http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 06:41:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA02662 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 06:41:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA02636 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 06:41:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spike.fa.gau.hu (maint@[192.188.243.132]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA06002 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 05:50:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (maint@localhost) by spike.fa.gau.hu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA14605 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 14:48:45 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 14:48:45 +0200 (CEST) From: Maintenance user To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: SOS: quota for incoming mail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Summer is here, students are going home, without unsubscribing from mailing lists. I have put a quota on /var but it doesn't work, as sendmail is runing as root, and has no difficulties to write tens of megabytes where the quota is just 1M. Is there any sollution to escape from this situation? Tanx for your help, bye, Peter From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 06:44:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA03073 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 06:44:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tir.com (sun.tir.com [205.138.41.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA03067 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 06:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from default (lan010.tir.com [205.218.76.10]) by tir.com (8.7.5/8.7) with SMTP id JAA00090 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:43:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33732A4C.4FF0@mail.tir.com> Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 09:44:44 -0400 From: Betteye Bolden Reply-To: bbolden@tir.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: What are we writing about Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I fail to understand if the service you are providing is software, or Access to the iternet. I am not very computer literate. Could you please get to the bottem line so that I may understand the service which you provide. What are the rates? What is the fee for software? Is thier a charge for hits? you can see from my questions, that I at present am at a loss. Please clear up what service you provide. Respectfully submitted bb From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 06:47:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA03467 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 06:47:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA03455 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 06:47:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA02739 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 05:00:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-132 [207.14.72.132]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA19875; Fri, 9 May 1997 02:45:01 -0800 Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 03:38:00 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: Shawn Ramsey cc: Jason , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: AMD K5 Chip(Does it work with FreeBSD) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 8 May 1997, Shawn Ramsey wrote: > > I'm planning on getting a K5 133 motherboard for using with FreeBSD, but > > I will try to install it on my 486 AMD 66Mhz. I would like to know if > > FreeBSD is compatible with these chips, including the NEW K6. > > > > Jason Mitchell > > Im no expert, but FreeBSD should work with ANY 32-bit x86 compatible chip. > I know the K5 works, havent heard anybody on here say they are using the > K6 yet. i wonder what going to happen with Intel moving off in a proprietary direction (from what i hear ...) From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 06:48:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA03691 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 06:48:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA03681; Fri, 9 May 1997 06:48:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA02855; Fri, 9 May 1997 05:04:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-132 [207.14.72.132]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA19905; Fri, 9 May 1997 02:49:03 -0800 Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 03:42:02 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: luomat@peak.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ESCAPE! Florida Cruise/Vacation $598/4 People In-Reply-To: <199705090043.RAA29601@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 8 May 1997, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: how about using a special keyword like FBSD in the body of a message, and if it's not in a message, it gets trashed? seems simple enough ... > > > This is a SPECIAL FLORIDA PROMOTION > > > brought to you by Cape Canaveral Cruise Line! > > > ********************************************* > > > > So uh... time to restrict posting to members of the mailing list? > > we have considered only accepting mail from those that are already > subscribed...this means from the address that they used to > subscribe...a number of people have more thatn 1 email address > this wouldforce them to always use the same address when sending > mail to the list. and god help those whose mail is forwarded > > we need a better solution > jmb > -- > Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Core Team, Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG > FreeBSD--4.4BSD Unix for PC clones, source included. http://www.freebsd.org/ > PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 06:52:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA04088 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 06:52:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emma.eng.uct.ac.za (emma.eng.uct.ac.za [137.158.128.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA04076 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 06:52:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from shaun@localhost) by emma.eng.uct.ac.za (8.8.5/8.8.4) id PAA00847; Fri, 9 May 1997 15:51:47 +0200 (SAT) Message-ID: <19970509155146.40249@emma.eng.uct.ac.za> Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 15:51:46 +0200 From: Shaun Courtney To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Compaq Armada 1130T and 2.2.1 installation problems. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.68 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi I'm trying to install FreeBSD 2.2.1-R on a Compaq Armada 1130T (120mhz Pentium with active screen and 1GB hard disk.) I've spit the disk so that it has about 500mb for Win95 :( and 500mb for FreeBSD The problem I have is when the machine boots it loads the kernel okay, (it does complains about memory != to bios memory ) and then goes into the config section. If I press enter (without config) it probes the hardware until it gets to apm0 and stops! (read hangs) I did notice it said it could not fine an irq for the SVGA driver under the PCI section... Can you please help, as I have limited experience with laptops/ notebooks. Thanks Shaun -- Department of Electrical Engineering and CERECAM Unix System Administrator and Unix support AD E4 BF C8 51 94 B2 06 36 24 6A C1 A3 3A 5D 01 http://www.eng.uct.ac.za From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 06:49:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA03785 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 06:49:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from agora.rdrop.com (root@agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA03760 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 06:49:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA01614 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 04:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-132 [207.14.72.132]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA19829; Fri, 9 May 1997 02:29:46 -0800 Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 03:22:45 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: Bryce Newall cc: FreeBSD Questions List Subject: Re: Keeping a process running In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > #!/bin/sh > > PIDFILE="/home/data/ppp.ps" > > ps -ax > $PIDFILE > if [ `grep -c "pppd" $PIDFILE` -eq 0 ]; then > /usr/sbin/ppp-on > fi > > rm -f $PIDFILE if [ `ps -ax | grep -c pppd` = 0 ]; then ppp-on; fi ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 07:04:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA04952 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 07:04:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hera.ecs.csus.edu (hera.ecs.csus.edu [130.86.71.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA04944 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 07:04:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gaia.ecs.csus.edu (gaia.ecs.csus.edu [130.86.71.9]) by hera.ecs.csus.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA26242; Fri, 9 May 1997 07:04:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sithoa@localhost) by gaia.ecs.csus.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA27796; Fri, 9 May 1997 07:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 07:03:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Allen Sitho To: Ken McKittrick cc: FreeBSD Subject: Re: Help with Wd 2.5 gig drive In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi Ken, I have the 80meg as the master and the 2.5 gig as the slave on the same ide primary. But the problem is when it tries to boot up for installation and the probing for the wdcX just can't find either drive, not even the master. Would this be a problem? I could try to put the 2.5gig drive on the secondary channel. Also, does this have anything to do with DMA? I am jjust not a hardware person. On Fri, 9 May 1997, Ken McKittrick wrote: > Allen > > I think those addresses are for IDE0 and IDE1 repectively. I just installed > FreeBSD for the 4th time Yesterday. I'm learning Unix the hard way ;-). > > How are the IDE cables set up physically. The best way is for a drive on > each channel. > > Sincerely > Ken > > > >Hello, > > I try to install FreeBSD on another machine today. It is a Cyrix > >80 with Opti Chipset. It has 80meg for the 1 drive and a 2.5gig WD drive > >the second drive. When I boot I saw that Biosdrive : 0 and wdc0 not > >found at 0x1f0 and wdc1 not found at 0x170. I have checked that the IRQ > >are okay but I am afraid the port address are not. How can I find out > >the correct port address in dos only? I have tried the bios but found > >nothing. IT is Award Bios. > > > > ooooo ooooo > > $$$$$$$$o o$$$$$$$$ > > $$$$$$$$$$o$$$$$$$$$$ > > $$$$$ $$$$$ > > $$$$ Allen Sitho $$$$ > > "$$$$ $$$$" > > "$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$" > > ""$$$$$$$$$$$"" > > ""$$$$$"" > > "$" > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Ken McKittrick AppliedTheory Communications, Inc. > kmckittr@appliedtheory.net Technical Consultant > support@appliedtheory.com 1-800-727-0793 > ------------------------------------------------------ > "The credit belongs to the man who is actually in > the arena, who strives valiantly; who knows the great > enthusiasms. the great devotions, and spends himself > in a worthy cause; who at the best, knows the triumph > of high achievement; and who, at the worst, if he fails, > at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his > place shall never be with those cold and timid souls > who know neither victory or defeat." Theodore Roosevelt > > > ooooo ooooo $$$$$$$$o o$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$o$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$ Allen Sitho $$$$ "$$$$ $$$$" "$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$" ""$$$$$$$$$$$"" ""$$$$$"" "$" From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 07:25:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA06066 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 07:25:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beowulf.utmb.edu (beowulf.utmb.edu [129.109.59.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06057 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 07:25:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bdodson@localhost) by beowulf.utmb.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA02687; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:22:58 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 09:22:58 -0500 (CDT) From: "M. L. Dodson" Message-Id: <199705091422.JAA02687@beowulf.utmb.edu> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, bbolden@tir.com Subject: Re: What are we writing about X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk FreeBSD is an operating system which runs on computers similar or identical to those described as "IBM PC-compatible". As such it is software. This mailing list is a forum for asking/answering questions about this operating system. This is highly unlikely to be of interest to one self described as "not very computer literate". I don't mean to be overly dismissive, but I doubt what is said here will be of interest to you. How did you get on this list, anyway? Respectfully answered (I hope). Bud Dodson > > I fail to understand if the service you are providing is software, > or Access to the iternet. I am not very computer literate. Could > you please get to the bottem line so that I may understand the service > which you provide. > > What are the rates? > What is the fee for software? > Is thier a charge for hits? > > you can see from my questions, that I at present am at a loss. > > Please clear up what service you provide. > > Respectfully submitted > > bb > -- M. L. Dodson bdodson@scms.utmb.edu 409-772-2178 FAX: 409-772-1790 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 07:25:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA06067 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 07:25:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (gatekeeper.barcode.co.il [192.116.93.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06055 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 07:25:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nadav@localhost) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (8.8.5/8.6.12) id RAA15878; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:23:16 +0300 (IDT) Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 17:23:16 +0300 (IDT) From: Nadav Eiron To: Betteye Bolden cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What are we writing about In-Reply-To: <33732A4C.4FF0@mail.tir.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 9 May 1997, Betteye Bolden wrote: > I fail to understand if the service you are providing is software, > or Access to the iternet. I am not very computer literate. Could > you please get to the bottem line so that I may understand the service > which you provide. > > What are the rates? > What is the fee for software? > Is thier a charge for hits? FreeBSD is an operating system. This is a piece of computer software that provides the essentials of modern computing. FreeBSD is a UNIX clone operating system, meaning that it bears great resemblance to the UNIX operating system written originally at AT&T Bell Labs. FreeBSD is *free*. The only thing it will cost you is the cost of your internet connection over which you download it. It is also available on CD-ROM for a fee from Walnut Creek CDROMs (http://www.cdrom.com). You are encouraged to look around http://www.freebsd.org for more details. > > you can see from my questions, that I at present am at a loss. > > Please clear up what service you provide. > > Respectfully submitted > > bb > Nadav From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 07:34:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA06707 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 07:34:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns2.harborcom.net (root@ns2.harborcom.net [206.158.4.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA06688; Fri, 9 May 1997 07:34:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bradley@localhost) by ns2.harborcom.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA16476; Fri, 9 May 1997 10:34:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 10:34:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Bradley Dunn X-Sender: bradley@ns2.harborcom.net To: Randy Katz cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Remote Mail Server In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 8 May 1997, Randy Katz wrote: > So, mach1.frajjoe.com needs to dialup, periodically, and get the mail > directed to frajjoe.com, store it until users grab it through the pop3 > server. How is this setup? UUCP. There is an O'Reilly book called _Using and Managing UUCP_ I think. pbd From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 07:36:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA06824 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 07:36:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mole.mole.org (marmot.mole.org [204.216.57.191]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA06816 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 07:36:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mole.mole.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA12772; Fri, 9 May 1997 14:36:24 GMT Received: from meerkat.mole.org(206.197.192.110) by mole.mole.org via smap (V1.3) id sma012766; Fri May 9 14:36:00 1997 Received: (from mrm@localhost) by meerkat.mole.org (8.6.11/8.6.9) id HAA26735; Fri, 9 May 1997 07:36:00 -0700 Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 07:36:00 -0700 From: "M.R.Murphy" Message-Id: <199705091436.HAA26735@meerkat.mole.org> To: bill@twwells.com, dufault@hda.com Subject: Re: scsi MEDIUM ERRORS? Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > I just installed a new 2.1G scsi disk on my 2.1.5 system and got > > these errors: > > > > (lots of these, with different "info" values) > > sd2(aha0:2:0): MEDIUM ERROR info:a246b asc:11,1 Read retries exhausted > > (...) > > > I thought scsi was supposed to deal with these sort of things? Is > > there something I need to do to make these go away? > > Note that these are unrecovered read errors. The SCSI spec doesn't > permit the drive to fix these. Since this is a new drive, format > it with scsiformat, verify that ARRE and AWRE are on in mode page 1, > and then try again. It is disconcerting that you received the > drive like this. > If scsiformat doesn't work, as it didn't for me in a similar case, try rewriting the whole drive, as in dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rsdN bs=1b after making sure ARRE and AWRE are on in mode page 1. That way the drive can try to reassign blocks for write error. I'd try to get the drive replaced or repaired, though. It's not a Quantum Empire by any chance, is it? :-) -- Mike Murphy mrm@Mole.ORG +1 619 598 5874 Better is the enemy of Good From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 07:44:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA07328 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 07:44:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lepton.nuc.net (wheelman@lepton.nuc.net [204.49.61.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA07320 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 07:44:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (wheelman@localhost) by lepton.nuc.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA04252; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:43:44 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 09:43:44 -0500 (CDT) From: Jaime Bozza To: Steve Howe cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AMD K5 Chip(Does it work with FreeBSD) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 9 May 1997, Steve Howe wrote: > i wonder what going to happen with Intel moving off in > a proprietary direction (from what i hear ...) The proprietary direction from the most part is the "chip" packaging. The Pentium II's and later will plug into a slot (Like an ISA slot) instead of a socket. They're eliminating (perhaps) the problems with people breaking pins off of a chip. Basically it means everyone will HAVE to buy a new motherboard to support the new chips. I doubt this would cause any problems with the chipmakers. Jaime Bozza Nucleus Communications, Inc. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 08:01:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA08077 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:01:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [207.239.68.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA08069 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:01:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freyes.dh.i-2000.com (slip166-72-9-215.il.us.ibm.net [166.72.9.215]) by federation.addy.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA07874 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 11:00:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705091500.LAA07874@federation.addy.com> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "FreeBSD questions" Date: Fri, 09 May 97 10:58:30 -0400 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: How to re-install or rebuild user ppp? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk My user ppp gives me an error when I try to run it. I tried copying the ppp file from the live CDrom but that did not work. Is there a way to re-install ppp and all the files it depends on or to re-build them from sources? From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 08:06:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA08272 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:06:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from superior.mooseriver.com (ppp030-sm0.sirius.com [205.134.229.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA08267 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:05:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jgrosch@localhost) by superior.mooseriver.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA22872; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:05:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Josef Grosch Message-Id: <199705091505.IAA22872@superior.mooseriver.com> Subject: Re: What are we writing about In-Reply-To: <33732A4C.4FF0@mail.tir.com> from Betteye Bolden at "May 9, 97 09:44:44 am" To: bbolden@tir.com Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 08:05:39 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: jgrosch@sirius.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Betteye Bolden said: >I fail to understand if the service you are providing is software, >or Access to the iternet. I am not very computer literate. Could >you please get to the bottem line so that I may understand the service >which you provide. > >What are the rates? >What is the fee for software? >Is thier a charge for hits? > >you can see from my questions, that I at present am at a loss. > >Please clear up what service you provide. > >Respectfully submitted > >bb > Your answer can be found at: http://www.freebsd.org Josef -- Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 2.2.1 jgrosch@sirius.com | Micro$oft free world | UNIX for the masses From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 08:10:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA08579 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:10:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server.netplus.com.br ([200.247.23.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA08563 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sergio.lenzi (root@dial03.netplus.com.br [200.247.23.107]) by server.netplus.com.br (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22092; Fri, 9 May 1997 12:11:48 GMT Received: (from lenzi@localhost) by sergio.lenzi (8.8.3/8.8.3) id KAA01543; Fri, 9 May 1997 10:53:54 GMT Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 10:53:54 +0000 () From: "Lenzi, Sergio" X-Sender: lenzi@sergio To: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCMEtGIxsoSg==?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQ2lLLhsoSg==?= cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Question_MAIL In-Reply-To: <9705080200.AA00049@nanosya.hdq3210.eec.toshiba.co.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 8 May 1997, =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCMEtGIxsoSg==?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQ2lLLhsoSg==?= wrote: > > $B$O$8$a$^$7$F!*(J > $B0KF#$H8@$$$^$9!#(J > > $B%O!<%I%&%'%"!u%M%C%H%o!<%/$N9=@.$K4X$7$F(J > $B > $BBP1~5! $B;HMQ(JLAN$B%\!<%I$O!"(JDell$BIU?o$N(J3com$B$N(J3C905$B$H(J > 3com$B$N(J3C900$B$G$9!#(J > > $B>e5-$N9=@.$K(JFreeBSD$B$rF3F~$7(J > $B%2!<%H%&%'%$%5!<%P$NMM$KMxMQ$7$?$$$N$G$9$,(J > $B>e > $B$*NOE:$(2<$5$$!#(J > > Hello, We can help you if you write the questions in English. Thanks. Sergio Lenzi. Unix consult. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 08:23:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA09209 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:23:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adler.grauel.com ([199.233.104.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA09200 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:23:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rjk@localhost) by adler.grauel.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA02028; Fri, 9 May 1997 10:23:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 10:23:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199705091523.KAA02028@adler.grauel.com> From: "Richard J. Kuhns" To: questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: rjk@grauel.com Subject: Problem getting up-to-date with 2.2 using CTM Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'd like to get a newly-installed 2.2.1 system up to date. I loaded everything from the CD, and finished a `make world' yesterday (just to see how it went -- 133MH Pentium, 32MB, 4GB Micropolis took about 4 hrs 15 min). I followed the instructions in src-2.2-CTM-README on ftp.freebsd.org; it said that if I wanted to update 2.2.1, I needed to start with src-2.2.0217.gz. I tried, with the following results. : adler$~; cd /usr/src : adler$/usr/src; echo "src-2.2 216" > .ctm_status : adler$/usr/src; ctm -v /usr2/2.2/src-2.2.02* Working on FN: release/sysinstall/help/hardware.hlp md5 mismatch. FN: release/sysinstall/help/hardware.hlp edit fails. Exit(104) : adler$/usr/src; It looks like the README is wrong; any suggestions as to where I should start? Thanks... -- Rich Kuhns rjk@grauel.com PO Box 6249 Tel: (765)477-6000 \ 100 Sawmill Road x319 Lafayette, IN 47903 (800)489-4891 / From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 08:25:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA09405 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (www.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA09397 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:25:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id RAA19514; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:24:01 +0200 Received: (from zgabor@localhost) by CoDe.hu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA00257; Fri, 9 May 1997 16:19:38 +0200 (MET DST) From: Zahemszky Gabor Message-Id: <199705091419.QAA00257@CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: need disk error help! To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 16:19:38 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: mmead@goof.com In-Reply-To: <199705061859.OAA11434@goof.com> from "matthew c. mead" at "May 6, 97 02:58:42 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi, I'm trying to resolve a problem on a machine which is > having what appears to be drive errors. Can someone help me > interpret this message and figure out what to do to mark this > part of the disk as unusable or some other measure? Thanks! > > These messages are showing up on the console (and in the > dmesg log): > > wd0s1h: hard error reading fsbn 2086522 of 2086512-2086527 (wd0s1 bn 3135098; cn 3110 tn 3 sn 29)wd0: status 59 error 10 > wd0s1h: hard error reading fsbn 2086522 of 2086512-2086527 (wd0s1 bn 3135098; cn 3110 tn 3 sn 29)wd0: status 59 error 40 man badsect Gabor -- #!/bin/ksh Z='21N16I25C25E30, 40M30E33E25T15U!' ;IFS=' ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ ';set $Z;for i { [[ $i = ? ]]&&print $i&&break;[[ $i = ??? ]]&&j=$i&&i=${i%?};typeset -i40 i=8#$i;print -n ${i#???};[[ "$j" = ??? ]]&&print -n "${j#??} "&&j=;typeset +i i;};IFS=' 0123456789 ';set $Z;X=;for i { [[ $i = , ]]&&i=2;[[ $i = ?? ]]||typeset -l i;X="$X $i";typeset +l i;};print "$X" From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 08:25:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA09468 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:25:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.EUnet.hu (www.eunet.hu [193.225.28.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA09459 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:25:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.EUnet.hu, id RAA19528; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:24:33 +0200 Received: (from zgabor@localhost) by CoDe.hu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA00272; Fri, 9 May 1997 16:21:37 +0200 (MET DST) From: Zahemszky Gabor Message-Id: <199705091421.QAA00272@CoDe.hu> Subject: Re: New Message To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org (FreeBSD questions) Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 16:21:37 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: boakenfold@shaw.wave.ca In-Reply-To: <19970505222106.AAA5495@mail.cal.shaw.wave.ca> from Oakie at "May 5, 97 04:21:06 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL11 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi there. > I was wondering if FreeBSD could be installed and Ran on a AViiON > 4100 Workstation! Only if AViiON's are Intel [3456]86 based. I don't think so. Gabor -- #!/bin/ksh Z='21N16I25C25E30, 40M30E33E25T15U!' ;IFS=' ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ ';set $Z;for i { [[ $i = ? ]]&&print $i&&break;[[ $i = ??? ]]&&j=$i&&i=${i%?};typeset -i40 i=8#$i;print -n ${i#???};[[ "$j" = ??? ]]&&print -n "${j#??} "&&j=;typeset +i i;};IFS=' 0123456789 ';set $Z;X=;for i { [[ $i = , ]]&&i=2;[[ $i = ?? ]]||typeset -l i;X="$X $i";typeset +l i;};print "$X" From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 08:28:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA09654 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:28:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d2si.com (macbeth.d2si.com [206.8.31.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA09649 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:28:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from alec@localhost) by d2si.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA11285; Fri, 9 May 1997 10:27:58 -0500 (CDT) From: Alec Kloss Message-Id: <199705091527.KAA11285@d2si.com> Subject: Re: What are we writing about In-Reply-To: <33732A4C.4FF0@mail.tir.com> from Betteye Bolden at "May 9, 97 09:44:44 am" To: bbolden@tir.com Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 10:27:58 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Betteye Bolden is responsible for: > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 09:25:31 1997 > Message-ID: <33732A4C.4FF0@mail.tir.com> > Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 09:44:44 -0400 > From: Betteye Bolden > Reply-To: bbolden@tir.com > X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: What are we writing about > Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Precedence: bulk > I fail to understand if the service you are providing is software, > or Access to the iternet. I am not very computer literate. Could > you please get to the bottem line so that I may understand the service > which you provide. > > What are the rates? > What is the fee for software? > Is thier a charge for hits? > > you can see from my questions, that I at present am at a loss. > > Please clear up what service you provide. > > Respectfully submitted > > bb > Well, here it is in a nutshell. For more info, look through the web site at http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD is a operating opearting system, somewhat similar to Microsoft Windows. FreeBSD has a different "heritage" than windows and behaves differently in many ways. FreeBSD is a varient of the UNIX operating system originally developed at AT&T in the 1970s. It provides the following features: 1) Multi-tasking: More that a single program can be running. Typically at least 30 programs are running at any time on a UNIX system. The FreeBSD system I'm using right now has 86 processes running. 2) Multi-user: UNIX supports multiple users of a computer. Each user can have private and shared files and can communicate with each other. Additionally, multiple users can use the same machine at the same time. The machine I am using right now is also being used by 1 other person. 3) Stable: Because UNIX was intented to be used by many people at the same time (often dozens or hundreds) stability and networking were high priorities. UNIX systems rarely crash and are typically left running (in business environments) for months (or years) at a time. I have only crashed FreeBSD by installing defective hardware. So, persay, FreeBSD is not providing access to the internet. FreeBSD is a operating system that is an excellent choice for connecting to the internet, with useful features like automatic redial and dial on demand. It is a very stable operating system which makes it popular with internet service providers. In terms of fees, FreeBSD is free. You can download the whole operating system from the internet (paying only whatever you pay for internet connectivity) and if you can figure out how to install it, you are set. You can also buy a two-CD set of the complete opeating system for something like $50 from Walnut Creek (see http://www.cdrom.com/). You can then use FreeBSD to create your own websites, dial in to the internet, publish books, write programs in many languages (C, C++, Scheme, LISP, fortran, smalltalk and who knows how many more), still without paying a dime for the software. All in all, it is pretty neat. However, it is not for the faint of heart or the casual user. FreeBSD (and UNIX in general) is much more for people who are interested in setting up the best computer they can, not just a functional one. Hope this helps. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 08:40:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA10445 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:40:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kevin.sunshine.net (pme46.sunshine.net [204.191.205.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA10437 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:40:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cagey@localhost) by kevin.sunshine.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA00817; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 08:36:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin Eliuk Reply-To: Kevin Eliuk To: Gil PEREZ cc: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: (no subject) In-Reply-To: <337330AC.D91@easynet.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 9 May 1997, Gil PEREZ wrote: >Kevin, > >Thank you for your E-MAIL > >I tried to install FreeBSD. > >But i have a problem because my CD ROM seems to be unknown. > >It is an ITACHI CDR-8130. > >Anf in fact to tell the true i did not suceed to install >by coping the files on my PC ... > >Gil PEREZ. > > > > Unfortunately :-( I do not have the convenience of a CD drive at all, so in regards to any option others on FreeBSD-Questions can probably be of more help if the answer to your question, if it is not in the docs I referred you to. _______________________________________ |\ /| If I hadn't asked | \ kevin_eliuk@sunshine.net / | the questions I asked, | \ Kevin G. Eliuk / | I wouldn't be answering | /^\_________________________/^\ | the questions I'm answering. | / \ | |/--===### Powered By FreeBSD 2.2.1 \| | www.freebsd.org | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 08:50:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA10872 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:50:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from commlitho.com ([207.254.73.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA10867 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705091550.IAA10867@hub.freebsd.org> Received: from [207.254.73.18] by commlitho.com (SMTPD32-3.02) id A78D5A700F2; Fri, 09 May 1997 08:49:33 -0700 From: "Patrick Burm" To: Subject: Leaks - how to find Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 08:50:09 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1160 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Can anyone give me information on how to read this output from vmstat -m. I saw a post about trying to find leaks using this command. I have set up a new FreeBSD box version 2.2.1-release. I'm new to the Unix world. After a couple days my free memory seems to dissappear. I'm starting an ISP and I'm testing the box before I go live. I guess I'm just asking what to look for as a sign to find my culprit. This output is after 9 hours of up time: Memory statistics by bucket size Size In Use Free Requests HighWater Couldfree 16 34 734 573 1280 0 32 127 129 1472 640 0 64 2422 74 14900 320 0 128 2713 39 21273 160 0 256 1999 65 45375 80 0 512 46 42 977 40 84 1K 158 30 81353 20 110 2K 7 17 39 10 7 4K 7 0 8 5 0 8K 1 0 1 5 0 16K 3 0 3 5 0 Memory usage type by bucket size Size Type(s) 16 devbuf, pcb, routetbl, vnodes, proc, temp 32 devbuf, pcb, routetbl, pgrp, session, proc, subproc, ether_multi, temp 64 routetbl, ifaddr, namecache, VM mapent, file, lockf, in_multi, temp 128 devbuf, pcb, routetbl, zombie, ifaddr, cred, vnodes, VM map, VM object, file desc, proc, ttys, isa_devlist 256 devbuf, socket, pcb, routetbl, vnodes, VM map, file desc, subproc, FFS node, NFS srvsock, NFS daemon, temp, select 512 devbuf, pcb, ioctlops, mount, UFS mount, file desc, proc, temp, BIO buffer 1K mbuf, devbuf, namei, UFS mount, NQNFS Lease, temp, BIO buffer 2K devbuf, UFS mount, MSDOSFS mount, ttys, BIO buffer 4K devbuf, NFS node, UFS quota, UFS mount, temp 8K namecache 16K devbuf Memory statistics by type Type Kern Type InUse MemUse HighUse Limit Requests Limit Limit Size(s) mbuf 1 1K 1K 18315K 1 0 0 1K devbuf 23 70K 70K 18315K 55 0 0 16,32,128,256,512,1K,2K,4K,16K socket 24 6K 8K 18315K 288 0 0 256 pcb 35 7K 9K 18315K 164 0 0 16,32,128,256,512 routetbl 40 6K 8K 18315K 94 0 0 16,32,64,128,256 zombie 0 0K 1K 18315K 763 0 0 128 ifaddr 8 1K 1K 18315K 8 0 0 64,128 namei 0 0K 4K 18315K 79240 0 0 1K ioctlops 0 0K 1K 18315K 3 0 0 512 cred 19 3K 3K 18315K 397 0 0 128 pgrp 17 1K 1K 18315K 256 0 0 32 session 15 1K 1K 18315K 176 0 0 32 mount 4 2K 2K 18315K 4 0 0 512 NFS node 1 4K 4K 18315K 1 0 0 4K vnodes 1953 244K 252K 18315K 2484 0 0 16,128,256 namecache 1922 129K 129K 18315K 1922 0 0 64,8K UFS quota 1 4K 4K 18315K 1 0 0 4K UFS mount 10 15K 15K 18315K 10 0 0 512,1K,2K,4K VM map 36 8K 10K 18315K 799 0 0 128,256 VM mapent 443 28K 28K 18315K 443 0 0 64 VM object 459 58K 61K 18315K 16879 0 0 128 file 49 4K 5K 18315K 12290 0 0 64 file desc 32 6K 7K 18315K 901 0 0 128,256,512 lockf 1 1K 1K 18315K 237 0 0 64 proc 36 15K 18K 18315K 806 0 0 16,32,128,512 subproc 32 2K 3K 18315K 1558 0 0 32,256 FFS node 1867 467K 480K 18315K 42729 0 0 256 NQNFS Lease 1 1K 1K 18315K 1 0 0 1K NFS srvsock 2 1K 1K 18315K 2 0 0 256 NFS daemon 1 1K 1K 18315K 1 0 0 256 in_multi 2 1K 1K 18315K 2 0 0 64 ether_multi 1 1K 1K 18315K 1 0 0 32 MSDOSFS mount 1 2K 2K 18315K 1 0 0 2K temp 65 7K 11K 18315K 873 0 0 16,32,64,256,512,1K,4K ttys 246 33K 33K 18315K 363 0 0 128,2K isa_devlist 1 1K 1K 18315K 1 0 0 128 BIO buffer 152 153K 177K 18315K 2169 0 0 512,1K,2K select 17 5K 5K 18315K 51 0 0 256 Memory Totals: In Use Free Requests 1274K 127K 165974 ---------- Patrick Burm Commercial Lithographers Mesa, AZ 602.844.2294 patb@commlitho.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 08:52:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA11033 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:52:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (mailhost.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA11028 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:52:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705091552.IAA11028@hub.freebsd.org> Received: from 708714329 ([207.147.120.242]) by mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with ESMTP id AAA28408 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 15:52:01 +0000 From: "North Star" To: Subject: Boot Floppy does not fit on floppy disk! Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 07:49:49 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Your boot floppy which you say goes on a 1.44meg 3.5 floppy disk , does not go on a 1.44meg 3.5 floppy disk. It says `The file being copied is too large for distination drive. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 09:10:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA12619 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:10:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SCIENCE-GUY.npt.nuwc.navy.mil (SCIENCE-GUY.NPT.NUWC.NAVY.MIL [129.190.139.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12612 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:10:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SCIENCE-GUY.npt.nuwc.navy.mil (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by SCIENCE-GUY.npt.nuwc.navy.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02278; Fri, 9 May 1997 12:07:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705091607.MAA02278@SCIENCE-GUY.npt.nuwc.navy.mil> To: "Tim Oneil" Subject: Re: fvwm2 CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 08 May 1997 08:51:41 PDT." <3.0.32.19970508085141.0098a2b0@visigenic.com> Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 12:07:33 -0400 From: Tod Luginbuhl Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Tim, >Would someone mind sending me the example >.fvwm2rc config file? It doesn't appear to >have been installed with the window manager, >even a recursive search of my drive won't >reveal it, and without one example file I'm >not getting very far in customizing it. >fBSD 2.2.1 as a whole however is rocking! Thanks >to the guys who answered my question about the >fonts for xterm too. The file you want should bin in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fvwm2. In this directory you should find system.fvwm2rc, system.fvwm2rc-sample-1 and system.fvwm2rc-sample-2. If you don't find them, let me know and I'll send them to you. Tod -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tod Luginbuhl email: t.e.luginbuhl@ieee.org Code 2121 Naval Undersea Warfare Center Telephone: (401) 841-7505 x38241 1176 Howell Street FAX: (401) 841-7453 Newport, Rhode Island USA "Don't argue with drunks and fanatics!" -- Sun Wolf (Barbara Hambly) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 09:12:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA12822 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xmission.xmission.com (softweyr@xmission.xmission.com [198.60.22.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA12817 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:12:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from softweyr@localhost) by xmission.xmission.com (8.8.5/8.7.5) id KAA27550; Fri, 9 May 1997 10:12:31 -0600 (MDT) From: Wes Peters - Softweyr LLC Message-Id: <199705091612.KAA27550@xmission.xmission.com> Subject: Re: AMD K5 Chip(Does it work with FreeBSD) To: un_x@anchorage.net (Steve Howe) Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 10:12:28 -0600 (MDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Steve Howe" at May 9, 97 03:38:00 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > i wonder what going to happen with Intel moving off in > a proprietary direction (from what i hear ...) Snort Chuckle Gasp. What a sense of humor! Intel "moving off in a proprietary direction" -- as if they've ever made anything that wasn't proprietary before! ;^) I doubt Cyrix, AMD, et al will have any problems stealing^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h reverse engineering anything new Intel comes up with. I have FreeBSD running on several K5s around here, from 75 to 133 "PR." I'll be trying the 166 soon. FreeBSD runs wonderfully on the K5 -- more bang for the buck *always* works for me. ;^) -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.xmission.com/~softweyr softweyr@xmission.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 09:27:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA13628 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:27:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA13623 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asterix.xs4all.nl (root@asterix.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.11]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.7.6/XS4ALL) with ESMTP id SAA07575 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:27:40 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from plm.xs4all.nl (uucp@localhost) by asterix.xs4all.nl (8.7.5/8.7.2) with UUCP id SAA15881 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:19:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from plm@localhost) by plm.xs4all.nl (8.8.5/8.7.3) id OAA02959; Fri, 9 May 1997 14:32:48 +0200 (MET DST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: JAZ drive: How to turn off write verify in FreeBSD? etc. From: Peter Mutsaers Date: 09 May 1997 14:32:47 +0200 Message-ID: <87bu6kj05s.fsf@plm.xs4all.nl> Lines: 22 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.25/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, Does anyone know how to turn off write verify for the JAZ drive? Currently I can only do that in Windows but I would like to configure it under FreeBSD of course. Turning it off makes writing about twice as fast. Does somebody know how reliable a Jaz drive is with and without write verify? Another JAZ question: If I boot (I use the freebsd bootmgr on the MBR) without a Jaz disk inserted, I have the option to switch to disk 2 (I have two internal SCSI disks). If I have inserted a Jaz disk however, I can only boot from partitions on disk 1 (not from disk 2, and not from the Jaz disk either). Why does the bootmgr get so confused? or is it a BIOS problem? Thanks, -- /\_/\ ( o.o ) Peter Mutsaers | Abcoude (Utrecht), | Trust is a good quality ) ^ ( plm@xs4all.nl | the Netherlands | for other people to have From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 09:31:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA13799 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:31:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xmission.xmission.com (softweyr@xmission.xmission.com [198.60.22.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA13794 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:31:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from softweyr@localhost) by xmission.xmission.com (8.8.5/8.7.5) id KAA02564; Fri, 9 May 1997 10:31:22 -0600 (MDT) From: Wes Peters - Softweyr LLC Message-Id: <199705091631.KAA02564@xmission.xmission.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD as a router To: dkite@icomnet.com (Doug Kite) Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 10:31:21 -0600 (MDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <33708AAC.1B07@icomnet.com> from "Doug Kite" at May 7, 97 09:59:08 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I am having problems getting routing going on FreeBSD 2.1.5. I have > gateway=yes in my /etc/sysconfig, and routed is running. Below are the > output of netstat -rn and ifconfig -a. What else do I need to do? > > netstat -rn: > Routing tables > > Internet: > Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Netif > Expire > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 0 lo0 > 192.168.2 link#2 UC 0 0 > 192.168.5 link#3 UC 0 0 This looks fine. Have you setup routing on the client machines, or ascertained they are correctly receiving routes from routed? A simple 'netstat -rn' (or 'route print' if they are M$ machines) will reveal if your router has correctly advertised its routes. If you try to ping a mcahine on the 5 network from a machine on the 2 network, do any routes get added? If not, can you manually add a route (you'll need to do this to the machines on both networks) and get a ping through? -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.xmission.com/~softweyr softweyr@xmission.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 09:32:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA13942 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA13927 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:32:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (shovey@buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA05674; Fri, 9 May 1997 12:31:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 12:31:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve To: Daniel Odom cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: JDK/Kaffe In-Reply-To: <199705090802.IAA11571@thelonious.spidome.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 9 May 1997, Daniel Odom wrote: > I can't get java to work, and judging by the mailing list archives, > neither can anyone else :-). I get the "cannot find class > java/lang/Thread" error from javac and kaffe core dumps and complains > about an exception and a null object. Any ideas? Has anyone made it > work? I got it to work on a 2.1.5 box. I grabbed the one from the freebsd.org/pub/LOCAL_PORTS, uncompressed and untarred it, followed the readmes etc. I ony hit a couple bumps - because it was compiled under 3.0 you either need libc.so.3.0, or to fake one - I copied libc.so.2.2 to libc.so.3.0 and it worked. I did not try kaffe. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 09:36:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA14293 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:36:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sujal.prognet.com (sujal.prognet.com [204.255.154.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA14288 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (smpatel@localhost) by sujal.prognet.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA18095 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:36:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: sujal.prognet.com: smpatel owned process doing -bs X-Received: from smyrno.sol.net (smyrno.sol.net [206.55.64.117]) by sujal.prognet.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id VAA15922 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 21:02:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.18]) by smyrno.sol.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id XAA02148 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 23:02:45 -0500 (CDT) X-Received: from cs.nps.navy.mil (cs.nps.navy.mil [131.120.1.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA08233 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 21:02:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: from wes1 (slippc20.cs.nps.navy.mil) by cs.nps.navy.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09865; Thu, 8 May 97 21:01:55 PDT Message-Id: <33723332.21EF@crosslogic.com> Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 21:10:26 +0000 From: Wes Hester Reply-To: software@crosslogic.com Organization: Crosslogic Corp. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: smpatel@freebsd.org Subject: Java 1.0.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ReSent-Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 09:36:13 -0700 (PDT) ReSent-From: Sujal Patel ReSent-To: questions@freebsd.org ReSent-Message-ID: Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I am trying to get Java 1.0.2 installed. I have untared the jdk tar file, and done the following: 1. your path to include the /bin directory 2. CLASSPATH environment variable to .:/classes.zip 3. LD_LIBRARY_PATH to include /lib/i386 However, what is meant in line 3 above. I tried to add the following to my .cshrc file> LD_LIBRARY_PATH .:/java/lib/i386 but when I reboot or source .cshrc it errors on this line. What advice do you have to offer? Thanks Wes From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 09:45:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA14755 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:45:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from inss1.etec.uni-karlsruhe.de (dl5bct@inss6.etec.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.109.187]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA14740 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:44:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dl5bct@localhost) by inss1.etec.uni-karlsruhe.de (8.8.5/8.8.2) id SAA09278; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:44:52 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 18:44:50 +0200 (MET DST) From: Peter Cornelius Subject: ? mgetty 0.99-Aug07, FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE, 1&1 Skyconnect (Creatix): Problem ? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: Gert Doering , Peter Cornelius Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi(gh) there... Since a couple of weeks I'm trying to get this bugger working. I even updated from FreeBSD 2.1.5-RELEASE to 2.2.1-RELEASE to be somewhat more up to date and maybe escape some possible old bugs in either FreeBSD or even mgetty ;-)) and not to bug anyone with stone-aged software. But the effect hasn,t changed after updating. I have used, and still do, the FreeBSD port collection's version of mgetty, that is mgetty+sendfax version 0.98 in 2.1.5-RELEASE and now, with 2.2.1-RELEASE, version 0.99-Aug07. Now, quite frankly, I'm stuck and I need help. What mgetty does, one may hopefully see with the log excerpts and the present config file included further below. There's no need to worry about the 'something foul in config line'-noise so far as it will disappear once I use separate config files, I suppose. As one can see, mgetty does not get back _anything_ whilst trying to talk to the modem. Well, ok, modem or cable broken, wrong port, or whatsoever, if -- well, if there weren't a couple things that puzzled me: Firstly, I _can_ talk to the modem with _no_ (physical) change in setup using seyon (which I stopped using and removed subsequently as I can't get rally used to it, it seems) and minicom (v1.75). With minicom, I can dial in at my university, read mail and do (almost) all that I want. Once it is up & running. Because secondly, when I start up minicom (seyon shows a similar behaviour) it hangs when trying to initialize the modem after reset (the modem "clicks", so it appears to have received the reset and only the resulting 'OK' doesn't seem to get through). When I then kill -9 the minicom process (-15 makes minicom try to reset the modem which doesn't work either, and then lock solidly) and restart it witin mgetty's port check time (i. e. before mgetty finds out that minicom has gone), minicom will just work fine. This means, that thirdly, device locking seems to be ok, as far as I can say. At least mgetty stays out of the way while minicom is up. Forthly, I suspected that mgetty, by some weird influences of my chaotic aura, does read() istead of select() or poll() and therefore losing characters on the serial line. Thus, I flipped through the manpages looking for select() and poll() and such, and I found what I expected, FreeBSD does have and uses select(), but there's no alternative poll(). This is what I also understood from mgetty's docs and Makefiles. So I tried to rebuild the sources with -DUSE_SELECT. But this only generates lots of complaints (whereas compiling quietly before) about having USE_SELECT defined multiplely. Well, and that's, again, what I would expect if I had a working code... Now, I'm not a very good C programmer (in fact, all I can do with it is taking a sharp look and a good guess), so I'm somewhat lost here, I regret to admit. (NOTE: Also, I'm pretty sure that there's no other program interfering, I triple-checked that, too.) So that's what I see, and it's more and more of a riddle to me. I hope that there's someone out there willing and able to read this (long... *sigh*) posting and give me a hand. Thanks also to all others for not being bugged. Poooh. Cheers, Peter. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | vy 73, 55 de dl5bct@db0fho.#nds.deu.eu (ax.25) | | Peter Cornelius dl5bct@db0fho.ampr.org (ampr) | | dl5bct * vk2cpc dl5bct@inss1.etec.uni-karlsruhe.de (internet) | | click here ! | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ PS.: I suspect also a problem with my modem and my thermo fax (Olympia OF 625), but that should now really go into another post. I _might_ follow that if and once I get mgetty set up properly. ----------------------------- Detailed information follows. ----------------------------- --- /tmp/log_mg.modem (excerpts) --- (a) modem locking _works_ -- 05/07 00:07:29 dem mgetty: experimental test release 0.99-Aug07 05/07 00:07:29 dem something foul in config line: 'fax-devices modem' 05/07 00:07:29 dem (keyword 'fax-devices' not found) 05/07 00:07:29 dem something foul in config line: 'modem-init ATZ' 05/07 00:07:29 dem (keyword 'modem-init' not found) 05/07 00:07:29 dem something foul in config line: 'modem-handshake ' 05/07 00:07:29 dem (keyword 'modem-handshake' not found) 05/07 00:07:29 dem something foul in config line: 'max-tries 3' 05/07 00:07:29 dem (keyword 'max-tries' not found) 05/07 00:07:29 dem something foul in config line: 'max-tries-continue YES' 05/07 00:07:29 dem (keyword 'max-tries-continue' not found) 05/07 00:07:29 dem something foul in config line: 'dial-prefix ATDT' 05/07 00:07:29 dem (keyword 'dial-prefix' not found) 05/07 00:07:29 dem something foul in config line: 'poll-dir ./' 05/07 00:07:29 dem (keyword 'poll-dir' not found) 05/07 00:07:29 dem something foul in config line: 'normal-res NO' 05/07 00:07:29 dem (keyword 'normal-res' not found) 05/07 00:07:29 dem something foul in config line: 'verbose NO' 05/07 00:07:29 dem (keyword 'verbose' not found) 05/07 00:07:29 dem check for lockfiles 05/07 00:07:29 dem lockfile found, pid=549 05/07 00:07:29 dem lockfile found, pid=549 05/07 00:07:29 dem utmp + wtmp entry made 05/07 00:07:29 dem lockfile found, pid=549 05/07 00:07:39 dem lockfile found, pid=549 05/07 00:07:49 dem lockfile found, pid=549 05/07 00:08:00 dem lockfile found, pid=549 05/07 00:08:10 dem lockfile found, pid=549 05/07 00:08:20 dem lockfile found, pid=549 05/07 00:08:30 dem lockfile found, pid=549 05/07 00:08:40 dem lockfile found, pid=549 05/07 00:08:50 dem lockfile found, pid=549 05/07 00:09:00 dem checklock: no active process has lock, will remove 05/07 00:09:05 dem checklock: stat failed, no file (b) what usually happens... -- 05/09 10:08:58 dem mgetty: experimental test release 0.99-Aug07 05/09 10:08:58 dem something foul in config line: 'fax-devices modem' 05/09 10:08:58 dem (keyword 'fax-devices' not found) 05/09 10:08:58 dem something foul in config line: 'modem-init ATZ' 05/09 10:08:58 dem (keyword 'modem-init' not found) 05/09 10:08:58 dem something foul in config line: 'modem-handshake AT&K3' 05/09 10:08:58 dem (keyword 'modem-handshake' not found) 05/09 10:08:58 dem something foul in config line: 'max-tries 3' 05/09 10:08:58 dem (keyword 'max-tries' not found) 05/09 10:08:58 dem something foul in config line: 'max-tries-continue YES' 05/09 10:08:58 dem (keyword 'max-tries-continue' not found) 05/09 10:08:58 dem something foul in config line: 'dial-prefix ATDT' 05/09 10:08:58 dem (keyword 'dial-prefix' not found) 05/09 10:08:58 dem something foul in config line: 'poll-dir ./' 05/09 10:08:58 dem (keyword 'poll-dir' not found) 05/09 10:08:58 dem something foul in config line: 'normal-res NO' 05/09 10:08:58 dem (keyword 'normal-res' not found) 05/09 10:08:58 dem something foul in config line: 'verbose NO' 05/09 10:08:58 dem (keyword 'verbose' not found) 05/09 10:08:58 dem check for lockfiles 05/09 10:08:58 dem checklock: stat failed, no file 05/09 10:08:58 dem locking the line 05/09 10:08:58 dem makelock(modem) called 05/09 10:08:58 dem do_makelock: lock='/var/spool/lock/LCK..modem' 05/09 10:08:58 dem lock made 05/09 10:08:59 dem lowering DTR to reset Modem 05/09 10:08:59 dem tss: set speed to 38400 (113000) 05/09 10:08:59 dem tio_set_flow_control( HARD ) 05/09 10:08:59 dem waiting for line to clear (VTIME), read: 05/09 10:08:59 dem send: \d\d\d\d\d\d+++\d\d\dATE1Q0V1[0d] 05/09 10:09:04 dem waiting for ``OK'' 05/09 10:09:04 dem got: 05/09 10:09:24 dem timeout in chat script, waiting for `OK' 05/09 10:09:24 dem init chat timed out, trying force-init-chat 05/09 10:09:24 dem send: \d[10][03]\d\d\d+++\d\d\d[0d]\dATQ0V1H0[0d] 05/09 10:09:28 dem waiting for ``OK'' 05/09 10:09:28 dem got: 05/09 10:09:48 dem timeout in chat script, waiting for `OK' 05/09 10:09:48 dem init chat failed, exiting...: Interrupted system call 05/09 10:09:48 dem removing lock file (c) what happens if I call the modem during initialization (this one was a non-answered fax call from the paper machine) -- 05/07 23:36:27 dem mgetty: experimental test release 0.99-Aug07 05/07 23:36:27 dem something foul in config line: 'fax-devices modem' 05/07 23:36:27 dem (keyword 'fax-devices' not found) 05/07 23:36:27 dem something foul in config line: 'modem-init ATZ' 05/07 23:36:27 dem (keyword 'modem-init' not found) 05/07 23:36:27 dem something foul in config line: 'modem-handshake AT&K3' 05/07 23:36:27 dem (keyword 'modem-handshake' not found) 05/07 23:36:27 dem something foul in config line: 'max-tries 3' 05/07 23:36:27 dem (keyword 'max-tries' not found) 05/07 23:36:27 dem something foul in config line: 'max-tries-continue YES' 05/07 23:36:27 dem (keyword 'max-tries-continue' not found) 05/07 23:36:27 dem something foul in config line: 'dial-prefix ATDT' 05/07 23:36:27 dem (keyword 'dial-prefix' not found) 05/07 23:36:27 dem something foul in config line: 'poll-dir ./' 05/07 23:36:27 dem (keyword 'poll-dir' not found) 05/07 23:36:27 dem something foul in config line: 'normal-res NO' 05/07 23:36:27 dem (keyword 'normal-res' not found) 05/07 23:36:27 dem something foul in config line: 'verbose NO' 05/07 23:36:27 dem (keyword 'verbose' not found) 05/07 23:36:27 dem check for lockfiles 05/07 23:36:27 dem checklock: stat failed, no file 05/07 23:36:27 dem locking the line 05/07 23:36:27 dem makelock(modem) called 05/07 23:36:27 dem do_makelock: lock='/var/spool/lock/LCK..modem' 05/07 23:36:27 dem lock made 05/07 23:36:28 dem lowering DTR to reset Modem 05/07 23:36:28 dem tss: set speed to 38400 (113000) 05/07 23:36:28 dem tio_set_flow_control( HARD ) 05/07 23:36:28 dem waiting for line to clear (VTIME), read: 05/07 23:36:28 dem send: \d\d\d\d\d\d+++\d\d\dATE1Q0V1[0d] 05/07 23:36:33 dem waiting for ``OK'' 05/07 23:36:33 dem got: [00][00][f3][00][00][f3][00][00][f3][00][00][f3] 05/07 23:36:53 dem timeout in chat script, waiting for `OK' 05/07 23:36:53 dem init chat timed out, trying force-init-chat 05/07 23:36:53 dem send: \d[10][03]\d\d\d+++\d\d\d[0d]\dATQ0V1H0[0d] 05/07 23:36:57 dem waiting for ``OK'' 05/07 23:36:57 dem got: 05/07 23:37:17 dem timeout in chat script, waiting for `OK' 05/07 23:37:17 dem init chat failed, exiting...: Interrupted system call 05/07 23:37:17 dem removing lock file --- /usr/local/etc/mgetty+sendfax/mgetty.config --- fax-devices modem port modem debug 9 fax-id +49 721 966 3974 speed 38400 #speed 115200 modem-init ATZ modem-handshake AT&K3 max-tries 3 max-tries-continue YES dial-prefix ATDT poll-dir ./ normal-res NO verbose NO direct NO blocking NO port-owner uucp port-group dialer port-mode 0660 toggle-dtr YES toggle-dtr-waittime 500 data-only NO fax-only NO modem-type auto #init-chat "" \d\d\d\d\d\d+++\d\d\dATQ0E1V1H0 OK ATS0=0&D3&C1&K3 OK init-chat "" \d\d\d\d\d\d+++\d\d\dATE1Q0V1 OK ATS0=0&D3&K3&C1 OK modem-check-time 3600 rings 1 answer-chat "" ATA CONNECT \c \r answer-chat-timeout 80 autobauding YES ringback NO ringback-time 30 issue-file /etc/issue prompt-waittime 500 login-prompt @!login: diskspace 4096 notify pc fax-owner uucp fax-group dialer fax-mode 0660 --- minicom parameters used --- The C-a p (i. e. parameter) window tells me (38400 also works): 115200 8N1 --- modem description --- Modem brand/model: "1&1 Skyconnect 28800V34" at+fclass=? 0,1,2 at+fcig=? (20)(32,33,35-96,123-126) at+fdcc=? (0,1),(0-5),(0-2),(0-2),(0,1),0,0,(0-7) at+fdcs=? (0,1),(0-5),(0-2),(0-2),(0,1),0,0,(0-7) at+fdis=? (0,1),(0-5),(0-2),(0-2),(0,1),0,0,(0-7) at+flid=? (20)(32,33,35-96,123-126) at+fmdl? AC/V34 at+fmfr? ROCKWELL at+frev? V1.200-V34_DS at+fspl=? 0,1 ati0 28800 ati1 043 ati2 (only 'OK' returned, nothing else) ati3 V1.200-V34_DS ati4 CERNDEXX V1.21 07/11/95 ati5 006 ati6 RC288DPi Rev 05BA ati7 000 tested on: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE working: nothing so far - except minicom or seyon remarks: That 1&1 stuff is what it says on the case. But the truth is that it is a Creatix modem: On the pcb it says 'Type 2 CREATIX' on the solder side, and 'mp186.3' and 'STF' on the component side (whatever this all might tell me...). Anyways, the EPROM is labelled '(C) Skyconnect V34 V1.21', and it's inded -no one guessed it- a Rockwell chipset employing one RC288DPi and one L39W/U R6682-26 L3903-53 ...and (C) Rockwell and such, both made in Mexico. contributor: Peter Cornelius #define (will be included once it works) --- hardware used --- IWILL PS54TS (P133, AIC7850 & sio0, sio1 (both 16550), lpt and (unused!) ide on board) 32 MB RAM Symbios/NCR810 PCI ELSA Winner 64 Trio SMC 8416 BT ISA Soundblaster SB16 (Logitech pilot mouse on sio0 = cuaa0/ttyd0) --- uname -a --- FreeBSD petra.cornelius.org 2.2.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE #0: Sun May 4 09:54:26 MET DST 1997 root@petra.cornelius.org:/usr/local/usr-src/sys/compile/PETRA i386 (NOTE: hostname 'petra.cornelius.org' does _not_ exist officially. I made that up for experimental purposes) ___ ls -al /dev/modem /dev/cuaa1 --- crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 28, 129 May 8 16:31 /dev/cuaa1 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 10 May 8 13:17 /dev/modem -> /dev/cuaa0 (NOTE: also tried hard link with no effect) --- /etc/ttys --- # # @(#)ttys 5.1 (Berkeley) 4/17/89 # # name getty type status comments # # This entry needed for asking password when init goes to single-user mode # If you want to be asked for password, change "secure" to "insecure" here console none unknown off secure # ttyv0 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure # Virtual terminals ttyv1 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure ttyv2 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure ttyv3 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 off secure # Serial terminals ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" unknown off secure ttyd1 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" unknown off secure ttyd2 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" unknown off secure ttyd3 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" unknown off secure # Pseudo terminals ttyp0 none network ttyp1 none network ttyp2 none network ttyp3 none network ttyp4 none network ttyp5 none network ttyp6 none network ttyp7 none network ttyp8 none network ttyp9 none network ttypa none network ttypb none network ttypc none network ttypd none network ttype none network ttypf none network ttypg none network ttyph none network ttypi none network ttypj none network ttypk none network ttypl none network ttypm none network ttypn none network ttypo none network ttypp none network ttypq none network ttypr none network ttyps none network ttypt none network ttypu none network ttypv none network # cuaa0 "/usr/local/sbin/mgetty" unknown on secure modem "/usr/local/sbin/mgetty" unknown on insecure From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 09:51:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA15118 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:51:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omni.norilsk.ru (infoce-2-ll.ll4.relcom.ru [193.124.250.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA15097 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:50:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from matrix.omni.norilsk.ru by omni.norilsk.ru with ESMTP id AAA06114; (8.6.11/vak/1.9) Sat, 10 May 1997 00:47:24 -0700 Message-Id: <199705100747.AAA06114@omni.norilsk.ru> From: "Artem Koutchine" To: Subject: Sound server problem. Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 00:46:46 +0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello! I cannot get sound to work under FreeBSD. I have reconfigured and recompiled the kernel to support: SB16, OPL, MPU401 and MIDI (i have Sound Blaster 32) and it even clicks while loading of the kernel. I have /dec/audio . However, i cannot get sound in DOOM, BOING or GALAXA (those are the onlt games that, i am sure, have sound). They say that they cannot connect to the Sound Server. The only server that i found is AU (Network Sound Server). I started it and it seemed to work (it does not exit, just hange in there). However, i still don't get any sound. Linux Doom still says that sound server is not found. Please, if anyone managed to get sound to work, share your expereince with me. Thank you. Regards, Artem Koutchine matrix@norilsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 09:51:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA15181 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:51:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from omni.norilsk.ru (infoce-2-ll.ll4.relcom.ru [193.124.250.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA15173 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:51:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from matrix.omni.norilsk.ru by omni.norilsk.ru with ESMTP id AAA06111; (8.6.11/vak/1.9) Sat, 10 May 1997 00:47:22 -0700 Message-Id: <199705100747.AAA06111@omni.norilsk.ru> From: "Artem Koutchine" To: Subject: Custom Shell question Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 00:41:51 +0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello! I am writing a menu shell for my users (we a little provider and want to simplify life for our users and at the same time take full control of them). Here is a sample code (just a skeleton from the memory): void main (int argc, char **argv, char **evp) { /* are we running as a login shell ??? */ if (*argv[0] != '-') { /* code for usual calls.. just passed to csh */ execve("/bin/csh",argv,evp); die("Can't call csh"); } else { /* init code.. prints menu does init stuff*/ i=domenu(); switch(i) { case 1: startppp(); case 2: /* user chose to enter shell*/ i=execve("/bin/csh",argv,vpe); if (i==-1) die ("cannot execute shell"); case 3: changepass(); default: dir("menu error"); } } } It work find for almost everything. The only thing ,so far, which does not work is the following line in .login tset -Q ?$TERM when i use CSH as a shell it just asks for the terminal and then does the termcap initialization and stuff, but with my shell it print all of those init command on the screen. For everything else it works just fine. Programs have no clue that it is not a csh. As i undertsand they must be printed into the stderror (that's why i don't see them with csh), but somehow with my shell stderr is redirected to stdout. On the other hand i could be wrong. Please, if you have any thoughts, share them with me! Regards, Artem Koutchine matrix@norilsk.ru From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 09:52:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA15308 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Radford.i-Plus.net (root@Radford.i-Plus.net [206.99.237.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15301 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:52:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from abyss (pitlord@cOnFuSeD.i-Plus.net [206.99.237.42]) by Radford.i-Plus.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA01018; Fri, 9 May 1997 12:50:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705091650.MAA01018@Radford.i-Plus.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.0544.0 From: "Troy Settle" To: , "North Star" Subject: Re: Boot Floppy does not fit on floppy disk! Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 12:52:53 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.0544.0 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk If you had bothered to read the README files, FAQ, HANBOOK, or anything else that covers the installation of FreeBSD, you would know that you do NOT copy the file. The file boot.flp is a DISK IMAGE, that needs to be written to disk (NOT COPIED). FreeBSD is not compatible with DOS, and a dos formatted floppy will not boot FreeBSD. As for the file being too large for the destination drive, you should know that it will fit perfectly onto a 1.44meg floppy. Get the rawrite.exe utility, and try again. ---- From: North Star To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Friday, May 09, 1997 12:26 PM Subject: Boot Floppy does not fit on floppy disk! >Your boot floppy which you say goes on a 1.44meg 3.5 floppy >disk , does not go on a 1.44meg 3.5 floppy disk. It says `The file >being copied is too large for distination drive. > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 10:25:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA17223 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 10:25:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.DPCSYS.com [209.25.4.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17216 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 10:25:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id RAA00455; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:23:10 GMT Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 10:23:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: Wes Hester cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Java 1.0.2 In-Reply-To: <33723332.21EF@crosslogic.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 8 May 1997, Wes Hester wrote: > 3. LD_LIBRARY_PATH to include /lib/i386 > > However, what is meant in line 3 above. I tried to add the following > to my .cshrc file> LD_LIBRARY_PATH .:/java/lib/i386 but when I reboot > or > source .cshrc it errors on this line. For csh .cshrc setenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH "$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:.:/java/lib/i386" For sh/ksh .profile LD_LIBRARY_PATH="$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:.:/java/lib/i386";export LD_LIBRARY_PATH Include the $LD_LIBRARY_PATH in the new path in order to preserve any previous entries. Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 10:46:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA18846 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 10:46:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from odin.visigenic.com (odin.visigenic.com [204.179.98.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA18839 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 10:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from VSI48 (vsi48.visigenic.com [206.64.15.185]) by odin.visigenic.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA2258; Fri, 9 May 1997 10:46:33 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970509104627.009b1980@visigenic.com> X-Sender: toneil@visigenic.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 10:46:28 -0700 To: Tod Luginbuhl From: "Tim Oneil" Subject: Re: fvwm2 Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thanks Tod, I'll check for those. I don't recall seeing anything that told me to look for these file names. Which is NBD (no big deal), I understand documentation would be an effort when you consider fBSD is pretty much a FREE OPERATING SYSTEM... great effort guys. -me At 12:07 PM 5/9/97 -0400, you wrote: >The file you want should bin in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fvwm2. In this >directory you should find system.fvwm2rc, system.fvwm2rc-sample-1 and >system.fvwm2rc-sample-2. > >If you don't find them, let me know and I'll send them to you. From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 10:50:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA19326 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 10:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA19265; Fri, 9 May 1997 10:50:10 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199705091750.KAA19265@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: ESCAPE! Florida Cruise/Vacation $598/4 People To: un_x@anchorage.net (Steve Howe) Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 10:50:09 -0700 (PDT) Cc: jmb@FreeBSD.org, luomat@peak.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: from "Steve Howe" at May 9, 97 03:42:02 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Steve Howe wrote: > > On Thu, 8 May 1997, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > > how about using a special keyword like FBSD in the body of a message, and > if it's not in a message, it gets trashed? seems simple enough ... seems that this would shut down out users that dont know about the magic word. we could send them back an email explaining the problem and ask them to resend. hmm.... jmb From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 10:52:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA19602 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 10:52:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.tseinc.com (gatekeeper.tseinc.com [206.114.206.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA19587 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 10:52:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by gatekeeper.tseinc.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) id MAA05091 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 12:52:39 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199705091752.MAA05091@gatekeeper.tseinc.com> X-Authentication-Warning: gatekeeper.tseinc.com: nobody set sender to using -f Received: from unknown(192.168.1.12) by gatekeeper.tseinc.com via smap (V1.3) id sma005088; Fri May 9 12:51:50 1997 From: "Jay L. West" To: Subject: question on adaptec 1520 controller w/DMA??? Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 12:51:49 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have an adaptec 1520 controller. According to the FreeBSD manuals it's slow partially because the 1520 doesn't have DMA support. That may have been true on older 1520 models, but currently they have a jumper to select either polled mode or DMA. Can I used the DMA function with FreeBSD? The aic driver example just shows an interrupt and port, not a drq. Can I use the drq keyword? Or can I used the aha driver with the 152x to get DMA? The card does support DMA. Any help is most appreciated! Thanks in advance. PS - please reply to jlwest@tseinc.com as I'm not currently on this list. THANKS! Jay West ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Unix *IS* user friendly; It's just selective about who it's friends are! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 10:55:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA19735 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 10:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.DPCSYS.com [209.25.4.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA19730 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 10:55:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id RAA00655; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:54:53 GMT Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 10:54:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: Kevin Eliuk cc: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: MAILER-DAEMON Message In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 9 May 1997, Kevin Eliuk wrote: > I have something trapped in my /var/spool/mqueue that I would like > some info on. > Return-Path: <2358945567@pipeline.net> > Received: from hermes.zynet.net (hermes.zynet.net [194.154.160.251]) > by kevin.sunshine.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA00597 > for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 21:43:08 -0700 (PDT) > From: 2358945567@pipeline.net > Received: from psyche.zynet.co.uk (psyche.zynet.net [194.154.160.2]) by hermes.zynet.net (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA26064; Thu, 1 May 1997 20:29:45 +0100 (BST) > Received: from mail.zynet.co.uk (200-196-90.ipt.aol.com [152.200.196.90]) by psyche.zynet.co.uk (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA14249; Thu, 1 May 1997 20:28:21 +0100 (BST) > Message-Id: <199705011928.UAA14249@psyche.zynet.co.uk> > To: Friend@public.com > Date: Thu, 01 May 97 11:34:41 EST > Subject: INTERNET CREDIT APPROVAL LETTER > > I have recieved none of the normal warning messages in pine about > unable to send message. The only reason I picked this up was through > `kevin daily run output'. With all the talk about spam, I was curious > if my mailbox was being used as a "host" of sorts? Nope, you weren't used as a relay, zynet.co.uk was. Sendmail is just trying to send a bounce message back to the unreachable email address 2358945567@pipeline.net Delete both the D and Q files so sendmail stops wasting its time. Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 11:06:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA20420 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 11:06:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [207.239.68.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20414 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 11:06:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (fbsdlist@localhost) by federation.addy.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA02187 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 14:06:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 14:06:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Cliff Addy To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: No grace period for quotas Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I had quota running successfully on a 2.2R box. Most of my users have a 1M soft limit and 10M hard limit on /var. Suddenly, however, anyone exceeding 1M is shut down and shows no grace period, e.g. Disk quotas for user vision (uid 1421): Filesystem blocks quota limit grace files quota limit grace /var 1664* 1024 10240 none 1 0 0 edquota -t shows Time units may be: days, hours, minutes, or seconds Grace period before enforcing soft limits for users: /usr: block grace period: 0 days, file grace period: 0 days /var: block grace period: 0 days, file grace period: 0 days Changing the block grace period to 7 days had no effect. Any ideas on what I may have done or need to do? From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 11:49:55 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA23019 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 11:49:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bagpuss.visint.co.uk (bagpuss.vis.net.uk [194.207.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA22996 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 11:49:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bagpuss.visint.co.uk (bagpuss.vis.net.uk [194.207.134.1]) by bagpuss.visint.co.uk (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA16853 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 20:02:03 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 20:02:03 +0100 (BST) From: Stephen Roome To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: catching a powerfail NMI Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk (This is serious) I'm looking at the possibilty of using the powerfail NMI which seems to already have some code for it in /sys/i386/i386/trap.c Basically, with a bunch of capacitors and a monostable we think we can make a very cheap UPS, which gives long enough to get the system to do little more than just fasthalt or somesuch. If anyone can let me know how feasible this would be or if it's already been done (can't find any more ISA UPS cards) then please let me know. Thanks. -- Steve Roome Technical Systems Manager, Vision Interactive Ltd. E: steve@visint.co.uk M: +44 (0) 976 241 342 T: +44 (0) 117 973 0597 F: +44 (0) 117 923 8522 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 12:02:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA23695 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 12:02:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bellind.com ([206.101.34.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23688 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 12:02:26 -0700 (PDT) From: RGireyev@bellind.com Received: by firewall.bellind.com id <17030-3>; Fri, 9 May 1997 12:04:33 -0700 Message-Id: <97May9.120433pdt.17030-3@firewall.bellind.com> To: Subject: Gotta Date? Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 12:07:05 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.837.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! I am trying to rename a file by appending a curent name to the end of it. For example if I have a file called beavis I want to rename it to beavis.05091997 Any ideas???? Thanks P.S. Lemme know which shell your suggestion is for -------------------------------------------------- Beavis and Butt-head Software Co Inc | Fone 1-800-555-CHICKs "Just press any key, dude!!!!" | Phaks 1-800-555-BUTT -------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 12:42:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA25169 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 12:42:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from interlock.amlawcorp.com (interlock.amlawcorp.com [207.26.65.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA25164 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 12:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by interlock.amlawcorp.com id AA29428 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for questions@FreeBSD.ORG); Fri, 9 May 1997 15:42:07 -0400 Message-Id: <199705091942.AA29428@interlock.amlawcorp.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.0544.0 From: "Julian S. Hing" To: , Subject: Re: Gotta Date? Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 15:39:49 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.0544.0 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk For most shells, this should work. "mv file file.new" -Julian Hing Blades1@ix.netcom.com B^} ---- From: RGireyev@bellind.com To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Friday, May 09, 1997 3:32 PM Subject: Gotta Date? >Hi! > >I am trying to rename a file by appending a curent >name to the end of it. For example if I have a file >called beavis I want to rename it to beavis.05091997 > >Any ideas???? > >Thanks > >P.S. Lemme know which shell your suggestion is for > > > > > >-------------------------------------------------- >Beavis and Butt-head Software Co Inc | Fone 1-800-555-CHICKs >"Just press any key, dude!!!!" | Phaks 1-800-555-BUTT >-------------------------------------------------- > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 12:54:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA25589 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 12:54:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from luke.cpl.net ([206.85.245.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25579 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 12:54:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (shawn@localhost) by luke.cpl.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA02700; Fri, 9 May 1997 12:53:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 12:53:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Shawn Ramsey To: Steve Howe cc: Jason , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AMD K5 Chip(Does it work with FreeBSD) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > > I'm planning on getting a K5 133 motherboard for using with FreeBSD, but > > > I will try to install it on my 486 AMD 66Mhz. I would like to know if > > > FreeBSD is compatible with these chips, including the NEW K6. > > > > > > Jason Mitchell > > > > Im no expert, but FreeBSD should work with ANY 32-bit x86 compatible chip. > > I know the K5 works, havent heard anybody on here say they are using the > > K6 yet. > > i wonder what going to happen with Intel moving off in > a proprietary direction (from what i hear ...) Are you talking about the Pentium II using the special slot 0(or is it 1) ?? Pretty LAME, considering it isnt much if any better than socket 7 or 8. But that shouldnt make any difference of what apps will run it. Im afraid its going to be awhile before the PC moves away from its current CISC architetcture, probably in large part of the near monopolies of MS and Intel. (Sorry this is way off topic, maybe we should end this thread here). From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 13:02:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA25943 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 13:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dyson.iquest.net (dyson.iquest.net [198.70.144.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA25937 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 13:01:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id OAA00252; Fri, 9 May 1997 14:59:47 -0500 (EST) From: "John S. Dyson" Message-Id: <199705091959.OAA00252@dyson.iquest.net> Subject: Re: catching a powerfail NMI In-Reply-To: from Stephen Roome at "May 9, 97 08:02:03 pm" To: steve@visint.co.uk (Stephen Roome) Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 14:59:46 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: dyson@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > (This is serious) > > I'm looking at the possibilty of using the powerfail NMI > which seems to already have some code for it in > /sys/i386/i386/trap.c > > Basically, with a bunch of capacitors and a monostable we think we can > make a very cheap UPS, which gives long enough to get the system to do > little more than just fasthalt or somesuch. :-). 1 Farad == 1V drop per amp every second. Say that you have .5 Farads (500 000 Microfarads), and a 15 Amp load, then you will have 1/30 of a second before you loose a Volt. .5 Farads is a lot of capacitance. (The little low-current supercaps notwithstanding.) I guess that you do have a lot of capacitors!!! John From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 13:07:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA26206 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 13:07:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thecore.com (root@guardian.thecore.com [206.136.149.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA26196 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 13:07:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (sfinn@localhost) by thecore.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA21211; Fri, 9 May 1997 16:06:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 16:06:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Shaun Finn To: "Julian S. Hing" cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, RGireyev@bellind.com Subject: Re: Gotta Date? In-Reply-To: <199705091942.AA29428@interlock.amlawcorp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I think he was looking for something like this: mv file file.`date '+%m%d%Y'` works just fine in the tcsh On Fri, 9 May 1997, Julian S. Hing wrote: > For most shells, this should work. > "mv file file.new" > -Julian Hing > Blades1@ix.netcom.com B^} > ---- > From: RGireyev@bellind.com > To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Friday, May 09, 1997 3:32 PM > Subject: Gotta Date? > > >Hi! > > > >I am trying to rename a file by appending a curent > >name to the end of it. For example if I have a file > >called beavis I want to rename it to beavis.05091997 > > > >Any ideas???? > > > >Thanks > > > >P.S. Lemme know which shell your suggestion is for > > > > > > > > > > > >-------------------------------------------------- > >Beavis and Butt-head Software Co Inc | Fone 1-800-555-CHICKs > >"Just press any key, dude!!!!" | Phaks 1-800-555-BUTT > >-------------------------------------------------- > > > > +------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Shaun M. Finn TechnoCore Communications, Inc. | | sfinn@thecore.com P.O. Box 106 | | (908)928-7400 FAX:(908)928-7402 Jackson, NJ 08527-0106 | +------------------- http://www.thecore.com/ ----------------------+ From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 13:41:53 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA28109 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 13:41:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hubbub.cisco.com (mailgate-sj-1.cisco.com [198.92.30.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA28100 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 13:41:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rast.cisco.com (rast.cisco.com [171.69.113.55]) by hubbub.cisco.com (8.8.4-Cisco.1/CISCO.GATE.1.1) with ESMTP id NAA09663 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 13:41:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by rast.cisco.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA00328 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 13:41:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199705092041.NAA00328@rast.cisco.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: How to re-install bootmanager? Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 13:41:16 -0700 From: Richard Johnson Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I installed freebsd while keeping a DOS partition as partition#0 on my drive. Initially I installed bootmanager and it allowed me to boot whichever I wanted just perfectly. However, now I have installed Windoze95 into partition#0 and it overwrote the bootmanager code. How do I go about re-installing bootmanager? /raj From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 14:01:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA28722 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 14:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yogurt.apg.more.net (spaul@yogurt.apg.more.net [198.209.250.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA28713 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 14:01:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from spaul@localhost) by yogurt.apg.more.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA14175 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 9 May 1997 16:01:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Paul Saab Message-Id: <199705092101.QAA14175@yogurt.apg.more.net> Subject: HP NetServer 5/100 LS2 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 16:01:21 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, I have a HP NetServer 5/100 LS2 which is running BSDi that I want to convert to FreeBSD. I read the FAQ about the netserver and did what it said and the boot disk still does not detect the SCSI controllers. Has anyone tried installing FreeBSD on a machine like this? Thanks. Below is the bootup messages from BSDi if that helps any. Paul Saab spaul@more.net --- BSDI BSD/OS 2.1 Kernel #0: Thu Mar 13 20:56:01 CST 1997 paul@spider.arach-net.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC cpu = Pentium (about 100 MHz) model 2, stepping 5 delay multiplier 2548 real mem = 67108864 avail mem = 64434176 buffer cache = 6545408 isa0 (root) eisa0 at root pci0 at root: configuration mechanism 1 pccons0 at isa0 iobase 0x60 irq 1: color, 8 screens pcaux0 at isa0 iobase 0x60 irq 12 com0 at isa0 iobase 0x3f8 irq 4: buffered (16550AF) com1 at isa0 iobase 0x2f8 irq 3: buffered (16550AF) lp0 at isa0 iobase 0x378 irq 7 fdc0 at isa0 iobase 0x3f0 irq 6 drq 2: floppy controller fd0 at fdc0 slave 0: 1.44M HD 3.5 floppy npx0 at isa0 iobase 0xf0: math coprocessor vga0 at isa0 iobase 0x3c0 maddr 0xa0000-0xaffff: VGA graphics aic0 at pci0 irq 11 maddr 0xff9ff000-0xff9ff0ff aic0: initiator id 7, parity enabled aic0: delaying to permit certain devices to finish self-test tg0 at aic0 target 1 sd0 at tg0 unit 0: disk: HP 2.13 GB 1st ### rev 1221 (SCSI-2) 4165272*512 tg0: disconnect enabled, synchronous at 10.0MB/s, max offset 8 tg1 at aic0 target 5 sr0 at tg1 unit 0: CD-ROM: TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-5301TA rev 1895 (SCSI-2) removable tg1: disconnect enabled, synchronous at 4.4MB/s, max offset 8 aic1 at pci0 irq 9 maddr 0xff9fe000-0xff9fe0ff aic1: initiator id 7, parity enabled aic1: delaying to permit certain devices to finish self-test ne0 at isa0 iobase 0x340 irq 5: NE-2000, address 00:40:05:14:89:19 pe0 at isa0/lp0: Pocket Ethernet-2 xir0 at isa0/lp0: Pocket Ethernet-3 changing root device to sd0a From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 14:06:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA28939 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 14:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adam.adonai.net ([205.182.92.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA28934 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 14:06:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (leec@localhost) by adam.adonai.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA01197; Fri, 9 May 1997 16:08:48 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 16:08:48 -0500 (CDT) From: "Lee Crites (AEI)" To: RGireyev@bellind.com cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Gotta Date? In-Reply-To: <97May9.120433pdt.17030-3@firewall.bellind.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 9 May 1997 RGireyev@bellind.com wrote: => =>I am trying to rename a file by appending a curent =>name to the end of it. For example if I have a file =>called beavis I want to rename it to beavis.05091997 => =>Any ideas???? I use these three scripts. If you like them, fine. All of them are csh scripts. The first is called autofile. It uses the other two, called autodate and autotime, respectively. If you pass it (autofile) a set of arguments, it will create a file name with all of them as well. So, the script: #!/bin/csh -f set fname1 = `autofile beavis` set fname2 = `autofile hello there world` echo $fname1 echo $fname2 will return: beavis.01Mar97.125345 hello.there.world.01Mar97.125345 Clear as mud? Good. Lee /scripts/autofile: #!/bin/csh -f # # return a string with the autodate.autotime # # start off by building a string with all of the parms set part1 = "" if !($1 == "") then foreach parmin ( $* ) if ("$part1" == "") then set part1 = $parmin else set part1 = $part1"."$parmin endif end set part1 = $part1"." endif # get the autodate and autotime strings set part2 = `/scripts/autodate`"."`/scripts/autotime` # show the whole thing echo $part1$part2 /scripts/autodate: #!/bin/csh -f # # Description: # This will return today's date in my format # if !($1 == "") then echo -n $1"." endif date|awk '{printf("%02d%s%d",$3,$2,$6%100)}' /scripts/autotime: #!/bin/csh -f # # Description: # This will return today's date in my format # if !($1 == "") then echo -n $1"." endif date|awk '{split($4,a,":");printf("%s%s%s",a[1],a[2],a[3])}' From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 15:02:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA01137 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 15:02:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thelonious.spidome.net (thelonious.spidome.net [205.153.247.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01129 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 15:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daniel@localhost) by thelonious.spidome.net (8.8.3/8.8.3) id WAA13629; Fri, 9 May 1997 22:00:08 GMT Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 22:00:08 GMT Message-Id: <199705092200.WAA13629@thelonious.spidome.net> From: Daniel Odom MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Steve Howe Cc: Shawn Ramsey , Jason , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AMD K5 Chip(Does it work with FreeBSD) In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The K5 works just fine. I installed 2.2 on a 133MHz K5 not too long ago. Steve Howe writes: > On Thu, 8 May 1997, Shawn Ramsey wrote: > > > > I'm planning on getting a K5 133 motherboard for using with FreeBSD, but > > > I will try to install it on my 486 AMD 66Mhz. I would like to know if > > > FreeBSD is compatible with these chips, including the NEW K6. > > > > > > Jason Mitchell > > > > Im no expert, but FreeBSD should work with ANY 32-bit x86 compatible chip. > > I know the K5 works, havent heard anybody on here say they are using the > > K6 yet. > > i wonder what going to happen with Intel moving off in > a proprietary direction (from what i hear ...) > -- Daniel Odom Software engineer daniel@spidome.net voice: 913-625-6124 fax: 913-625-6967 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 15:03:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA01268 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 15:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bellind.com ([206.101.34.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01263 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 15:03:54 -0700 (PDT) From: RGireyev@bellind.com Received: by firewall.bellind.com id <17036-2>; Fri, 9 May 1997 15:06:01 -0700 Message-Id: <97May9.150601pdt.17036-2@firewall.bellind.com> To: Cc: , Subject: RE: Gotta Date? Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 15:08:30 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.837.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is the second time the wrong ticks got me. I feel so dense. I kept trying the other two and it never occured to me to try the right one (for the second time now). I need a new brain, the one that actually retains information. Thanks a bunch to everyone, beavis can now be preserved in history :-). Rudy >---------- >From: Shaun Finn[SMTP:sfinn@thecore.com] >Sent: Friday, May 09, 1997 1:06 PM >To: Julian S. Hing >Cc: Rudy Gireyev; questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: Gotta Date? > > >I think he was looking for something like this: > >mv file file.`date '+%m%d%Y'` > >works just fine in the tcsh > > >On Fri, 9 May 1997, Julian S. Hing wrote: >> For most shells, this should work. >> "mv file file.new" >> -Julian Hing >> Blades1@ix.netcom.com B^} >> ---- >> From: RGireyev@bellind.com >> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG >> Date: Friday, May 09, 1997 3:32 PM >> Subject: Gotta Date? >> >> >Hi! >> > >> >I am trying to rename a file by appending a curent >> >name to the end of it. For example if I have a file >> >called beavis I want to rename it to beavis.05091997 >> > >> >Any ideas???? >> > >> >Thanks >> > >> >P.S. Lemme know which shell your suggestion is for >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >-------------------------------------------------- >> >Beavis and Butt-head Software Co Inc | Fone 1-800-555-CHICKs >> >"Just press any key, dude!!!!" | Phaks 1-800-555-BUTT >> >-------------------------------------------------- >> > >> >> > >+------------------------------------------------------------------+ >| Shaun M. Finn TechnoCore Communications, Inc. | >| sfinn@thecore.com P.O. Box 106 | >| (908)928-7400 FAX:(908)928-7402 Jackson, NJ 08527-0106 | >+------------------- http://www.thecore.com/ ----------------------+ > > From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 15:04:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA01319 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 15:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thelonious.spidome.net (thelonious.spidome.net [205.153.247.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01305 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 15:04:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from daniel@localhost) by thelonious.spidome.net (8.8.3/8.8.3) id WAA13632; Fri, 9 May 1997 22:02:38 GMT Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 22:02:38 GMT Message-Id: <199705092202.WAA13632@thelonious.spidome.net> From: Daniel Odom MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "North Star" Cc: Subject: Boot Floppy does not fit on floppy disk! In-Reply-To: <199705091552.IAA11028@hub.freebsd.org> References: <199705091552.IAA11028@hub.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Use rawrite.exe to write it to the disk, not a simple copy. It helps to read the instructions first. :-) North Star writes: > Your boot floppy which you say goes on a 1.44meg 3.5 floppy > disk , does not go on a 1.44meg 3.5 floppy disk. It says `The file > being copied is too large for distination drive. -- Daniel Odom Software engineer daniel@spidome.net voice: 913-625-6124 fax: 913-625-6967 From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 15:05:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA01438 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 15:05:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smarty.telcel.net.ve (smarty.T-Net.net.ve [206.48.41.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01430 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 15:05:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from telcel.telcel.net.ve ([206.49.128.60]) by smarty.telcel.net.ve (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release 0154 evaluation license) with ESMTP id AAA14663 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:03:00 +0400 From: rinunez@telcel.net.ve (rinunez) To: "FreeBSD" Subject: 100 GB Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 18:02:18 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <19970509140259.AAA14663@telcel.telcel.net.ve> Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear Gentlemen, What kind of hard disk architecture would you recommend me if I need to run FreeBSD to store around 100 GB of information? I suppose I´d use a SCSI card, but... Where can I find 100GB SCSI disks? Another idea is welcomed. Thank you very much, Ricardo Nunez From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 15:42:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA03025 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 15:42:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sunsrv5.lrz-muenchen.de (sunsrv5.lrz-muenchen.de [129.187.10.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA03020 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 15:42:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sun1.lrz-muenchen.de by sunsrv5.lrz-muenchen.de; Sat, 10 May 97 00:41:57 +0200 Received: by sun1.lrz-muenchen.de (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA12252; Sat, 10 May 1997 00:41:55 +0200 From: Joachim.Wunder@lrz.tu-muenchen.de (Joachim Wunder) Message-Id: <9705092241.AA12252@sun1.lrz-muenchen.de> Subject: Q: LaTeX - How to install right? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 00:41:55 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! I try to get LaTeX work correctly under 2.2.1 Release of FreeBSD. If I am installing teTeX-0.4 and LaTeX-2.09 together then nothing really works, if I am installing LaTeX-2.09 alone, then it complains about a missing german.sty file (o.k., I need german.sty). Even xdvi complains about a few missing pixel-fonts. So how and in which order you install a "normal" LaTeX and xdvi? TIA, Achim From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 16:04:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA04636 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 16:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA04612; Fri, 9 May 1997 16:04:04 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199705092304.QAA04612@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: 100 GB To: rinunez@telcel.net.ve (rinunez) Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 16:04:02 -0700 (PDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19970509140259.AAA14663@telcel.telcel.net.ve> from "rinunez" at May 9, 97 06:02:18 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk rinunez wrote: > > Dear Gentlemen, > > What kind of hard disk architecture would you recommend me if I need to run > FreeBSD to store around 100 GB of information? > > I suppose I´d use a SCSI card, but... Where can I find 100GB SCSI disks? wcarchive.cdrom.com has 106GB of disk...sounds liek what you need. it has 3 SCSI controllers: 2 AHA-2940 PCI SCSI 1 AHA-3940UW PCI dual-channel SCSI i dont know how the disks are divided up or their size but 9 9GB disks should get you there, or get 12 9GB and put 3 disks on each controller channel (3 disks per AHA-2940, 3 per channel on hte AHA-3940UW) (caveat: i have not done this myself) jmb From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 17:13:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA07534 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:13:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from atl2.america.net (atl2.america.net [199.170.121.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA07529 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:13:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rijn.nalu.net (sunman-9.seidata.com [206.160.243.138]) by atl2.america.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA10955 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 20:12:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3373CBD6.8B125857@nalu.net> Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 20:13:58 -0500 From: Gilbert Bollinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b4 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: SuperMicro P6DNF X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I work for an ISP . We run FreeBSD. Our Hardware is a SuperMicro P6DNF with dual P6 200mzh with 512k on each chip. We run Apache HTTP server, 3Com Fast Link PCI Ethernet, MGA Millinnium 2meg WRam PCI, an Adaptec Ulta card, 4 gig Micropolips drives. We are running the FreeBSD v3.0 CURRENT. We only use 1 proccessor. We keep having reboots about 4 or 6 times a day. FreeBSD starts the reboot sequence. We can't find anything in the logs for a reason for the reboots. Oh, the bios revision is .7.... We have not upgraded to 1.1 yet. What do you think could stop the reboot problem and would it be is in would our system keep running if we went SMP. I know it's not a 100% yes or no but based on our hardware what do you . Think it would be safest to wait for a 3.0 stable? And would we hav any problems going back to 2.2 stable if we had to? Gil from SEI Data From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 17:50:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA08874 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:50:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xmission.xmission.com (softweyr@xmission.xmission.com [198.60.22.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA08865 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:50:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from softweyr@localhost) by xmission.xmission.com (8.8.5/8.7.5) id SAA10113; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:50:07 -0600 (MDT) From: Wes Peters - Softweyr LLC Message-Id: <199705100050.SAA10113@xmission.xmission.com> Subject: Re: Off Topic: X desktop manager for FBSD?u To: jroberts@ashland.edu (Jeff Roberts) Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 18:50:07 -0600 (MDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Jeff Roberts" at May 6, 97 10:43:23 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > However, I can't > seem to do some of the things I used to be able to do in SCO (Motif?), > such as put objects on the desktop, etc. SCO includes the IXI X.desktop with their Open DeathTrap product, maybe you're thinking of that. > I also haven't found where to > set fvwm as my default window manager (twm is what always comes up), or > why xvidtune adjustments are never saved (do I have to put them in a > file manually?). With fvwm and tkdesk, I can get a (barely) acceptable > desktop. Is there another widget or tool that I need to be able to make > folders/icons on the desktop? What do *you* do? Personally, I put my computer keyboard, mouse, and monitor on the desktop, and use ctwm on my computer. Applications are started from a popup menu just the way any thinking computer user (i.e. UNIX guru) would expect them to be. Most applications are 'launched' by typing their name in an xterm. ;^) > If you don't think other list members would benefit, please just reply to > me personally. I've never bought into this idiotic 'desktop metaphor' crap because my work isn't done on a desktop, its done on a computer. In emacs. The way Real Programmers(tm) do it. My major interest outside of computing is sailing, so perhaps I should grab fvwm and figure out how to configure it for a 'cockpit metaphor:' grind this winch to haul in the e-mail, push the tiller back and forth to switch work spaces, etc. ;^) -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.xmission.com/~softweyr softweyr@xmission.com From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 18:31:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA10314 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:31:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tok.qiv.com ([204.214.141.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA10309 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tok.qiv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with UUCP id UAA28189; Fri, 9 May 1997 20:30:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (jdn@localhost) by acp.qiv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA00438; Fri, 9 May 1997 20:06:23 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: acp.qiv.com: jdn owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 20:06:23 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jay D. Nelson" To: Joachim Wunder cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Q: LaTeX - How to install right? In-Reply-To: <9705092241.AA12252@sun1.lrz-muenchen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 10 May 1997, Joachim Wunder wrote: ->Hi! -> ->I try to get LaTeX work correctly under 2.2.1 Release of FreeBSD. ->If I am installing teTeX-0.4 and LaTeX-2.09 together then nothing really works, ^^^^^^^^^^ That's your problem. You've installed two incompatible distributions. Install either teTeX _or_ all the other TeX parts. They install into two different places. My advice is: Uninstall all tex packages. If you've installed TeX from the UWash. tapes and are comfortable with everything lumped together, forget teTeX and install all other TeX packages. Otherwise, install _only_ the teTeX distribution and add "/usr/local/teTeX/bin" to your path. I've done it both ways and prefer the teTeX distribution. Everything you are likely to need is there and it is _much_ easier to maintain. If you choose teTeX, you might try running 'texconfig'. -- Jay ->if I am installing LaTeX-2.09 alone, then it complains about a missing ->german.sty file (o.k., I need german.sty). -> ->Even xdvi complains about a few missing pixel-fonts. -> ->So how and in which order you install a "normal" LaTeX and xdvi? -> ->TIA, ->Achim -> From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 18:55:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA11163 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:55:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from citrine.cyberstation.net (hannibal@citrine.cyberstation.net [205.167.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA11158 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:55:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (hannibal@localhost) by citrine.cyberstation.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA16714 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 20:55:53 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 20:55:52 -0500 (CDT) From: Dan Walters To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: real audio over network doesn't work? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone have raplayer 3.0 working over the network? I can play files I've already downloaded, but as far as real time streaming it's a no go, just gives error 50 (cannot open audio device) and quits. (This is with both our realaudio server and realaudio.com itself..) I'm running 3.0-current (2 days old), but I don't think it has worked in a few months... Boot probe messages: sb0 at 0x220-0x22f irq 5 drq 1 on isa sb0: sbxvi0 at 0x220-0x22f irq 5 drq 5 on isa sbxvi0: sbmidi0 at 0x330-0x331 irq 5 on isa sbmidi0: opl0 at 0x388-0x38b irq 31 on isa opl0: Kernel config: controller snd0 device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 conflicts drq 1 vector sbintr options "SBC_IRQ=5" device sbxvi0 at isa? port? irq? drq 5 conflicts device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330 irq? conflicts device opl0 at isa? port 0x388 conflicts I've got a ktrace also, but it has a lot of errors... Does raplayer work in 2.2? I've been thinking of downgrading anyway.. ====================================================================== Dan Walters hannibal@cyberstation.net ====================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 19:35:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA12522 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 19:35:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from admin.cyberenet.net (mail@admin.cyberenet.net [204.213.252.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA12517 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 19:35:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from twwells.com [199.79.159.1] (root) by admin.cyberenet.net with smtp (Exim 1.61 #7) id 0wQ20G-0006NU-00; Fri, 9 May 1997 22:35:21 -0400 Received: by twwells.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #8) id m0wQ1y6-0000o9C; Fri, 9 May 97 22:33 EDT Message-Id: From: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Subject: Re: scsi MEDIUM ERRORS? To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 22:33:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk : > Note that these are unrecovered read errors. The SCSI spec doesn't : > permit the drive to fix these. Since this is a new drive, format : > it with scsiformat, verify that ARRE and AWRE are on in mode page 1, : > and then try again. It is disconcerting that you received the : > drive like this. : : If scsiformat doesn't work, as it didn't for me in a similar case, : try rewriting the whole drive, as in : : dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rsdN bs=1b Thanks for the info, guys. I hadn't realized there was a formatting tool that ran under FreeBSD. Though...it sure as hell didn't format it in under ten seconds. :-) Oh well. I'll see if writing zeroes does the trick.... : after making sure ARRE and AWRE are on in mode page 1. That way : the drive can try to reassign blocks for write error. You both mentioned those bits....what are they? How are they manipulated? : I'd try to get the drive replaced or repaired, though. It's not : a Quantum Empire by any chance, is it? :-) A Quantum Fireball...and this *is* the replacement. :-| The first one appeared to have something wrong with seeking.... From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 19:37:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA12637 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 19:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jazz.snu.ac.kr (jazz.snu.ac.kr [147.46.102.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA12632 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 19:37:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from junker@localhost) by jazz.snu.ac.kr (8.8.5/8.8.4-procmail) id LAA14069; Sat, 10 May 1997 11:38:18 +0900 (KST) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Q: ATAPI Zip drive on FreeBSD? From: Choi Jun Ho Date: 10 May 1997 12:38:18 +1000 Message-ID: Lines: 13 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I am planning to buy IOMEGA ZIPdrive ATAPI type(internal, and it is very cheap!), Is there anybody who bought this and made it work on FreeBSD? If so, how can I use it? Can it be used as normal ATAPI devices? p.s. please reply to this mailing list and to ME. I am reading on the digest of this mailing list... -- |--Cool FreeBSD!-----MSX Forever!-----J.U.N.K.E.R/Beat Snatchers!--| |Choi Jun Ho http://jazz.snu.ac.kr/~junker| |Distributed Computing System Lab,CS Dept.,Seoul National Univ.,ROK| From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 20:14:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA13615 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 20:14:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mole.mole.org (marmot.mole.org [204.216.57.191]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA13610 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 20:14:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mole.mole.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id DAA18294; Sat, 10 May 1997 03:14:19 GMT Received: from meerkat.mole.org(206.197.192.110) by mole.mole.org via smap (V1.3) id sma018290; Sat May 10 03:13:52 1997 Received: (from mrm@localhost) by meerkat.mole.org (8.6.11/8.6.9) id UAA28477; Fri, 9 May 1997 20:13:52 -0700 Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 20:13:52 -0700 From: "M.R.Murphy" Message-Id: <199705100313.UAA28477@meerkat.mole.org> To: bill@twwells.com Subject: Re: scsi MEDIUM ERRORS? Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 9 19:51:51 1997 > From: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) > Subject: Re: scsi MEDIUM ERRORS? > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 22:33:05 -0400 (EDT) > > : > Note that these are unrecovered read errors. The SCSI spec doesn't > : > permit the drive to fix these. Since this is a new drive, format > : > it with scsiformat, verify that ARRE and AWRE are on in mode page 1, > : > and then try again. It is disconcerting that you received the > : > drive like this. > : > : If scsiformat doesn't work, as it didn't for me in a similar case, > : try rewriting the whole drive, as in > : > : dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rsdN bs=1b > > Thanks for the info, guys. I hadn't realized there was a > formatting tool that ran under FreeBSD. Though...it sure as hell > didn't format it in under ten seconds. :-) Oh well. I'll see if > writing zeroes does the trick.... > > : after making sure ARRE and AWRE are on in mode page 1. That way > : the drive can try to reassign blocks for write error. > > You both mentioned those bits....what are they? How are they > manipulated? man scsi to see how to manipulate the bits it's the To edit mode page 1 on /dev/rsd2c, and store it permanently on the drive: root# scsi -f /dev/rsd2c -m 1 -e -P 3 in the examples section. Change device name as required. You get popped into $EDITOR to edit the mode page. To find out about the bits, you'll need SCSI docs. I don't know if they're on FreeBSD CD's or website. Try a web search for ARRE and AWRE. These bits are the enable read reassignment and write reassignment bits. > > : I'd try to get the drive replaced or repaired, though. It's not > : a Quantum Empire by any chance, is it? :-) > > A Quantum Fireball...and this *is* the replacement. :-| The first > one appeared to have something wrong with seeking.... > Yeah, my replacement from quantum for an empire 2100s also has problems. it's too big and too expensive to just junk it, though. it's a real pain backing it up, then waiting for a replacement, then restoring :-( scsiformat doesn't do anything to Quantum SCSI drives (so it says on quantum's web page, and given that it takes 10 seconds or so, it looks like they aren't lying about it). For whatever it's worth, an adaptec low-level format from either debug or from the supplied adaptec software doesn't do a real lowlevel format either. -- Mike Murphy mrm@Mole.ORG +1 619 598 5874 Better is the enemy of Good From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 21:52:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA17627 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 21:52:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.lasalle.edu (alpha.LASALLE.EDU [139.84.10.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA17621 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 21:52:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by alpha.lasalle.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/20Feb96-0556AM) id AA15006; Sat, 10 May 1997 00:52:38 -0400 Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 00:52:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Artem Koutchine To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Custom shell questions (programming) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello! I am writing a menu shell for my users (we a little provider and want to simplify life for our users and at the same time take full control of them). Here is a sample code (just a skeleton from the memory): void main (int argc, char **argv, char **evp) { /* are we running as a login shell ??? */ if (*argv[0] != '-') { /* code for usual calls.. just passed to csh */ execve("/bin/csh",argv,evp); die("Can't call csh"); } else { /* init code.. prints menu does init stuff*/ i=domenu(); switch(i) { case 1: startppp(); case 2: /* user chose to enter shell*/ i=execve("/bin/csh",argv,vpe); if (i==-1) die ("cannot execute shell"); case 3: changepass(); default: dir("menu error"); } } } It work find for almost everything. The only thing ,so far, which does not work is the following line in .login tset -Q ?$TERM when i use CSH as a shell it just asks for the terminal and then does the termcap initialization and stuff, but with my shell it print all of those init command on the screen. For everything else it works just fine. Programs have no clue that it is not a csh. As i undertsand they must be printed into the stderror (that's why i don't see them with csh), but somehow with my shell stderr is redirected to stdout. On the other hand i could be wrong. Please, if you have any thoughts, share them with me! Regards, koutcha1@lasalle.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Fri May 9 21:54:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA17767 for questions-outgoing; Fri, 9 May 1997 21:54:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alpha.lasalle.edu (alpha.LASALLE.EDU [139.84.10.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA17758 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 21:54:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by alpha.lasalle.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/20Feb96-0556AM) id AA13604; Sat, 10 May 1997 00:54:54 -0400 Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 00:54:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Artem Koutchine To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Sound Server problem Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello! I cannot get sound to work under FreeBSD. I have reconfigured and recompiled the kernel to support: SB16, OPL, MPU401 and MIDI (i have Sound Blaster 32) and it even clicks while loading of the kernel. I have /dec/audio . However, i cannot get sound in DOOM, BOING or GALAXA (those are the onlt games that, i am sure, have sound). They say that they cannot connect to the Sound Server. The only server that i found is AU (Network Sound Server). I started it and it seemed to work (it does not exit, just hange in there). However, i still don't get any sound. Linux Doom still says that sound server is not found. Please, if anyone managed to get sound to work, share your expereince with me. Thank you. Regards, Artem Koutchine koutcha1@lasalle.edu From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 00:26:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA24468 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 00:26:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from luke.cpl.net ([206.85.245.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA24463 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 00:26:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (shawn@localhost) by luke.cpl.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA00990 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 00:26:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 00:26:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Shawn Ramsey To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: smtp server? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there an easy way to restrict users outside our netmask from being able to use our SMTP server? They way it is now, _anyone_ can set their SMTP server to us, and there is nothing we can do about it. Is there a way around this? thanks. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 03:23:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA28739 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 03:23:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chunga.apana.org.au (chunga.kt.apana.org.au [202.12.89.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA28734 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 03:23:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from davo@localhost) by chunga.apana.org.au (8.8.5/8.6.12) id TAA28059 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 May 1997 19:53:52 +0930 (CST) From: Dave Edwards Message-Id: <199705101023.TAA28059@chunga.apana.org.au> Subject: Does this tape work with FreeBSD To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 19:53:50 +0930 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi folks, I've got a chance to pick up a Digital TZK10 streaming scsi-2 tape drive (525Mb). I assume that it will work with FreeBSD being scsi, but wondered if anyone can confirm it.. ciao dave -- Dave Edwards davo@chunga.kt.apana.org.au || davo@sa.apana.org.au Adelaide, South Australia ---- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 03:51:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA01383 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 03:51:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chunga.apana.org.au (chunga.kt.apana.org.au [202.12.89.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA01305 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 03:49:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from davo@localhost) by chunga.apana.org.au (8.8.5/8.6.12) id UAA29055 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 May 1997 20:20:25 +0930 (CST) From: Dave Edwards Message-Id: <199705101050.UAA29055@chunga.apana.org.au> Subject: Trouble with SONY optical drive. To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 20:20:24 +0930 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi again, I've managed to pick up a SONY MO drive and having trouble using it. Can anyone help with this? Scsi reports it as a SMO-E501-08 drive, 1024 byte sectors, 307MB, 9830 cyl, 1 head and 32 sectors per track. I've compiled a kernel with the od device and the devices are in /dev. I can also put a disklabel on it but can't seem to get a filesystem installed :( Using newfs without a disk type gives an error "can't read disklabel, disk type must be specified." If I construct a disktab entry (attached below), and put a label on the disk, I get an error using newfs: "write error: 314536" "wtfs: Invalid argument" Using: newfs -S 1024 -s 150000 -T SONY /dev/od0c seems to work (maybe the media is only 150Mb) but when I try to mount the disk, the mount point disapears :) % cd / % ls -ld mnt drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Apr 17 18:08 mnt/ % mount /dev/od0c /mnt % ls -ld mnt ls: mnt: No such file or directory System is 2.2.1-RELEASE on a PCI board (486dx100) with 1542C isa scsi adaptor. I can't find anything of use in dejanews or the questions/hackers lists.. I'll attach the output from disklabel -r below also. TIA dave -- Dave Edwards davo@chunga.kt.apana.org.au || davo@sa.apana.org.au Adelaide, South Australia ---- %> disklabel -r od0 # /dev/rod0c: type: unknown disk: label: flags: bytes/sector: 1024 sectors/track: 32 tracks/cylinder: 1 sectors/cylinder: 32 cylinders: 9830 sectors/unit: 314569 rpm: 3600 interleave: 1 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # milliseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds drivedata: 0 3 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] c: 314569 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 9830*) ------------- Disktab entry used for newfs SONY|SMO-E501-08|MO SCSI DISK:\ :ty=removable:dt=SCSI:ns#32:nt#1:nc#9830:se#1024:ts#1:rm#3600\ :pc#314537:oc#0: ---------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 04:03:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA01692 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 04:03:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from milehigh.denver.net (jdc@milehigh.denver.net [204.144.180.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA01687 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 04:03:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jdc@localhost) by milehigh.denver.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA09541; Sat, 10 May 1997 05:19:13 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 05:19:12 -0600 (MDT) From: John-David Childs To: Shawn Ramsey cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: smtp server? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 10 May 1997, Shawn Ramsey wrote: > Is there an easy way to restrict users outside our netmask from being able > to use our SMTP server? They way it is now, _anyone_ can set their SMTP > server to us, and there is nothing we can do about it. Is there a way > around this? > > thanks. > http://spam.abuse.net/spam http://www.informatik.uni-kiel.de/%7Eca/email/check.html#check_rcpt Be prepared to deal with a lot of users who have multiple dialup accounts and/or access the net from work via a different provider ;( -- John-David Childs (JC612) http://www.denver.net System Administrator jdc@denver.net & Network Engineer Think, Listen, Look, then ACT! "A verbal contract isn't worth the paper it's written on" - Louis B Mayer From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 04:29:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA02351 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 04:29:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from guardian.fortress.org (fortress.org [198.168.253.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA02342 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 04:29:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (andrew@localhost) by guardian.fortress.org (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA28156 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 07:28:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 07:28:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Webster Reply-To: andrew@pubnix.net To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Tuning maxproc Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk How to I tune the DEFAULT MAXPROC value. Sometime ago when I installed 2.1.7, it dropped to 40 (not enough to compile some packages). I'm running 2.2.1 now. Please reply by email, as I'm not subscribed to this list. Thanks! Andrew Webster andrew@pubnix.net Key fingerprint = CF E8 16 B8 A6 DB E3 C9 83 E7 96 24 25 58 15 6E PubNIX Montreal Connected to the world Branche au monde P.O. Box 147 Cote Saint Luc, Quebec H4V 2Y3 tel 514.990.5911 http://www.pubnix.net fax 514.990.9443 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 04:41:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id EAA02638 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 04:41:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from guardian.fortress.org (fortress.org [198.168.253.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA02633 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 04:41:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (andrew@localhost) by guardian.fortress.org (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA28545 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 07:41:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 07:41:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Webster Reply-To: andrew@pubnix.net To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: SOLVED: Tuning maxproc Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I've found the answer, it is 20 + 16 * MAXUSERS. Thanks for the help! Andrew Webster andrew@pubnix.net Key fingerprint = CF E8 16 B8 A6 DB E3 C9 83 E7 96 24 25 58 15 6E PubNIX Montreal Connected to the world Branche au monde P.O. Box 147 Cote Saint Luc, Quebec H4V 2Y3 tel 514.990.5911 http://www.pubnix.net fax 514.990.9443 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 05:45:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA04210 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 05:45:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emout02.mail.aol.com (emout02.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA04205 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 05:45:04 -0700 (PDT) From: ZxOxRxRxO@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout02.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id IAA07188 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 May 1997 08:44:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 08:44:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970510084433_-1834991848@emout02.mail.aol.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Is there a FreeBSD for Mac OS? Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there a freeBSD for mac os? I have heard that there was one. and is this for 68k or PPC? thanx From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 06:56:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA05820 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 06:56:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from limbo.senate.org (nathan@senate.org [204.141.125.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA05805 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 06:55:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nathan@localhost) by limbo.senate.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA04213 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 May 1997 09:56:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Nathan Dorfman Message-Id: <199705101356.JAA04213@limbo.senate.org> Subject: XFree86 (URGENT!) Problem To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 09:56:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I had asked this a couple of days ago, and someone had asked me what error messages I got, etc. but never got back to me... sorry if you are already working on it or something, but I had to repeat just to make sure: XF86_SVGA will lock up on startup. Only a physical reboot will work. * This is FreeBSD 2.2.1, XFree86 version 3.2 * Worked perfect on Linux 2.0.29, XFree86 version 3.1.2 * XF86_VG16 doesn't lock up. * A couple of times I was able to get it to work once or twice before locking up again. * No errors, but the freeze happens after "1280x1024 needs hsync xxx, deleting" and before the font stuff. * I have a project due May 16th that I need X for ... this is urgent please if you have any idea what is going on, reply! -Nathan nathan@senate.org From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 07:40:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA06888 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 07:40:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from milo.cfw.com (milo.cfw.com [205.219.240.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA06882 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 07:40:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from RA61wb15.cfw.com by milo.cfw.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/12Dec95-0403PM) id AA24516; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:40:23 -0400 Message-Id: <9705101440.AA24516@milo.cfw.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.0544.0 From: "Paul Missman" To: Subject: Installation Problems Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 10:39:32 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BC5D2E.726DAB80" X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.0544.0 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BC5D2E.726DAB80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I am attempting to install freebsd from a dos partition ( I would have = tried ftp, but com4, where my modem is, isn't supported). So far, I've = gotten the freebsd partitions created, and set up the mounts for /bogus, = /,swap,/var, and /usr. I've downloaded all of the /bin files from = ftp.freebsd.org/pub/freebsd/2.2.1-release (bin.aa, bin.ab, etc.) into = c:\freebsd\bin. =20 At the end of the install procedure, it looks like it fsks (?) the = partitions (slices), but when I try to boot from the completed process, = it can't find the kernel, and in fact, says it can't find 0:wd0s3a, = which should be filesystem root, where I would think the kernel image = should reside. Also, the installation process said that there were some = errors, but I have no idea how to switch virtual consoles to see any = messages, so I have no idea what might not have completed. For your info, I'm doing this on a system with win95 and freebsd sharing = a 2.5Gig drive. Partitions and slices are as follows: wd0s1 FAT wd0s2 Extended wd0s3 freebsd wd0s1 /bogus wd0s3a / wd0s3b swap wd0s3e /var wd0s3f /usr That's about all I know at this point. BTW, I skipped kernel = configuration, assuming that if the kernel off the floppy image booted, = it was ok for me to use. Also, I have no idea what the options are for = the boot process. Thanks for any help you can give me. Paul Missman P.S. Processor is an AMD K5-133 (Pentium Clone). ------=_NextPart_000_01BC5D2E.726DAB80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

Hello,

I am attempting to install freebsd from a = dos=20 partition ( I would have tried ftp, but com4, where my modem is, isn't=20 supported). So far, I've gotten the freebsd partitions created, and set = up the=20 mounts for /bogus, /,swap,/var, and /usr. I've downloaded all of the = /bin files=20 from ftp.freebsd.org/pub/freebsd/2.2.1-release (bin.aa, bin.ab, etc.) = into=20 c:\freebsd\bin.

At the end of the install procedure, it = looks like it=20 fsks (?) the partitions (slices), but when I try to boot from the = completed=20 process, it can't find the kernel, and in fact, says it can't find = 0:wd0s3a,=20 which should be filesystem root, where I would think the kernel image = should=20 reside. Also, the installation process said that there were some = errors, but I=20 have no idea how to switch virtual consoles to see any messages, so I = have no=20 idea what might not have completed.

For your info, I'm doing this on a system = with win95=20 and freebsd sharing a 2.5Gig drive. Partitions and slices are as=20 follows:

 

wd0s1 FAT

wd0s2 Extended

wd0s3 freebsd

wd0s1 /bogus

wd0s3a /

wd0s3b swap

wd0s3e /var

wd0s3f /usr

That's about all I know at this point. = BTW, I=20 skipped kernel configuration, assuming that if the kernel off the floppy = image=20 booted, it was ok for me to use. Also, I have no idea what the options = are for=20 the boot process.

 

Thanks for any help you can give = me.

 

Paul Missman

P.S. Processor is an AMD K5-133 (Pentium = Clone).

 

------=_NextPart_000_01BC5D2E.726DAB80-- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 08:19:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA07748 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 08:19:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA07741 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 08:19:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-129 [207.14.72.129]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA25512 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 06:17:03 -0800 Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 07:09:50 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: freebsd-questions Subject: getopts Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk after pondering what use "getopts" was over "manual" parsing, i finally realized "getopts" can deal with option globbing, ie, i can pass "script -abc" to while getopts abc i; do case $i in a) blah, blah b) blah, blah c) blah, blah esac done my questions is: how can i set the positional parameters to $1=a, $2=b, $3=c, etc. is this replacement for getopt(1) supposed to get rid of the idea of positional parameters? i can do a) a=$i b) b=$i c) c=$i but this seems tedious, and i still don't have "shiftable" variables ... i tried various versions of "set -- `getopts abc i` $*", etc. but i can only end up with "$1 = -abc" ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 08:35:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA08280 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 08:35:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from horton.iaces.com (root@horton.iaces.com [204.147.87.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA08262 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 08:35:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from proot@localhost) by horton.iaces.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) id KAA21451; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:35:20 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul T. Root" Message-Id: <199705101535.KAA21451@horton.iaces.com> Subject: Re: real audio over network doesn't work? To: hannibal@cyberstation.net (Dan Walters) Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 10:35:20 -0500 (CDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from Dan Walters at "May 9, 97 08:55:52 pm" X-Organization: !nterprise Networking Services - ACES X-Phone: (612) 663-1979 X-Fax: (612) 663-8030 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 200 S. 5th St., Suite 1100 X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55402 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In a previous message, Dan Walters said: > just gives error 50 (cannot open audio device) and quits. (This is with > both our realaudio server and realaudio.com itself..) I'm running > 3.0-current (2 days old), but I don't think it has worked in a few > months... > > Kernel config: > controller snd0 > device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 conflicts drq 1 vector sbintr > options "SBC_IRQ=5" > device sbxvi0 at isa? port? irq? drq 5 conflicts > device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330 irq? conflicts > device opl0 at isa? port 0x388 conflicts > > I've got a ktrace also, but it has a lot of errors... Does raplayer work > in 2.2? I've been thinking of downgrading anyway.. Yep, it works fine for me. I have everything but the opl0 in my config. Actually, I'm trying out the OSS sound subsystem currently. It works pretty good. I haven't decided whether to buy it yet, since I don't seen a huge value add. I can build a kernel just fine. Why do you have conflicts on every line? Do you really need them? That my be the problem? I'm using 2.2.1-Release. Here's my Sound card config (it worked too, before I put the OSS in). # Sound Card controller snd0 device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 vector sbintr device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 6 device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x300 options "SBC_IRQ=5" options "SB16_DMA=6" As for OSS, to save me from repling as to where to get it: Release notes for OSS/FreeBSD ----------------------------- This is the first public beta test version of OSS/FreeBSD. Some parts of the driver are still under construction so everything doesn't work perfectly yet. Final 3.8 version of OSS is expected to be ready before summer. Note! The evaluation license included in this package gives you 5 days time to evaluate OSS/FreeBSD. After 5 days OSS will work only 10 minutes after it has been started (using soundon). Full licenses are available from http://www.4front-tech.com. Known bugs in this release are: - Audio recording and playback with GUS "Classic" doesn't work. - System will crash if any of the sound device files are accessed after OSS/FreeBSD has been unloaded. For this reason avoid unloading OSS (using soundoff command). Reboot the machine if you wish to unload OSS. -- It's impossible to make things foolproof because fools are so ingenious. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 08:38:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA08406 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 08:38:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from horton.iaces.com (root@horton.iaces.com [204.147.87.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA08395 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 08:38:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from proot@localhost) by horton.iaces.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) id KAA21496; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:38:04 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul T. Root" Message-Id: <199705101538.KAA21496@horton.iaces.com> Subject: Re: smtp server? To: shawn@luke.cpl.net (Shawn Ramsey) Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 10:38:04 -0500 (CDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from Shawn Ramsey at "May 10, 97 00:26:14 am" X-Organization: !nterprise Networking Services - ACES X-Phone: (612) 663-1979 X-Fax: (612) 663-8030 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 200 S. 5th St., Suite 1100 X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55402 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In a previous message, Shawn Ramsey said: > Is there an easy way to restrict users outside our netmask from being able > to use our SMTP server? They way it is now, _anyone_ can set their SMTP > server to us, and there is nothing we can do about it. Is there a way > around this? > > thanks. Check out www.sendmail.org. There is a page on spammers. What you're trying to stop is using a relay. Put the given code in your .mc file and build a new config. Paul. -- Income Tax is equitable because you make a buck; you pay a buck. - Irv Anderson, DFL Majority Leader, Minnesota House of Reps From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 08:43:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA08674 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 08:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA08669 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 08:43:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-129 [207.14.72.129]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA25550; Sat, 10 May 1997 06:40:39 -0800 Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 07:33:25 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: Shawn Ramsey cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: smtp server? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 10 May 1997, Shawn Ramsey wrote: > Is there an easy way to restrict users outside our netmask from being able > to use our SMTP server? They way it is now, _anyone_ can set their SMTP > server to us, and there is nothing we can do about it. Is there a way > around this? > > thanks. hehe! i realized that to be true with DNS also :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 08:46:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA08777 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 08:46:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA08772 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 08:46:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-129 [207.14.72.129]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA25565; Sat, 10 May 1997 06:43:37 -0800 Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 07:36:24 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: ZxOxRxRxO@aol.com cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is there a FreeBSD for Mac OS? In-Reply-To: <970510084433_-1834991848@emout02.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 10 May 1997 ZxOxRxRxO@aol.com wrote: > Is there a freeBSD for mac os? I have heard that there was one. > and is this for 68k or PPC? > > thanx see NetBSD ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 08:54:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA09033 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 08:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emout08.mail.aol.com (emout08.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA09028 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 08:54:36 -0700 (PDT) From: GILGSN@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id LAA16458 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 May 1997 11:54:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 11:54:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <970510113405_611206571@emout08.mail.aol.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Hello, I have a few questions... Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I just got FreeBSD 2.2.1 on CDrom. It doesn't work on my PS/1 but I was planning on buying a new pc anyway. Is anybody currently running FreeBSD on a Tyan Tomcat III dual processor motherboard (with one cpu installed) ? Since there is now a FreeBSD beta release for multi processors I thought that getting a dual CPU board would be a good choice for future upgrades. Any reasons not to do this ? What motherboard would be best if the Tyan isn't a good choice ? My current REAVEAL CDrom on a soundblaster 16 card (IDE) is not recognized by the installation floppy. what can I do ? Will I have to get a new cdrom ? If I need a new cdrom, Which one ? What would be a good (if possible cheap) SCSI controller/cdrom conbination ? Any reason why I should not use a Cyrix 200 CPU ? What else if not, AMD, Intel ? Anything about the AMD K6 yet ? Thank you very much, any hardware suggestion will be greatly appreciated. Gil. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 09:19:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA09827 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 09:19:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kevin.sunshine.net ([204.191.205.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA09822; Sat, 10 May 1997 09:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cagey@localhost) by kevin.sunshine.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA02906; Sat, 10 May 1997 09:15:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 09:15:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin Eliuk Reply-To: Kevin Eliuk To: FreeBSD-Hackers , FreeBSD-questions Subject: Question ppp-2.2-970509 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Good Morning, I am running 2.2.1-RELEASE and I tried to make the upgrade to ppp this morning but it was not able to complete. The src is located in /usr/src/ppp-2.2-970509. On running make I received: Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/src/ppp-2.2-970509 :it continued to make until: make: don't know how to make uucplock.c. Stop I would have simply installed the binary release but I wanted to lower the DEF_MRU to 552 on the recommendation of a sys admin. that has found it to be a more stable setting with our ISP. I thought that maybe the problem could lie in the unorthodox way I set up my slices on my last install, so even though I risk m/l humiliation I'll include: Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/wd0a 63567 13219 45263 23% / /dev/wd0s2e 197951 97372 84743 53% /usr /dev/wd0s2h 98479 46608 43993 51% /usr/local /dev/wd0s2g 361007 54449 277678 16% /usr/src /dev/wd0s2f 59471 1522 53192 3% /var procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc _______________________________________ |\ /| If I hadn't asked | \ kevin_eliuk@sunshine.net / | the questions I asked, | \ Kevin G. Eliuk / | I wouldn't be answering | /^\_________________________/^\ | the questions I'm answering. | / \ | |/--===### Powered By FreeBSD 2.2.1 \| | www.freebsd.org | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 09:20:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA09936 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 09:20:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lsmarso.dialup.access.net (lsmarso.dialup.access.net [166.84.254.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA09931 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 09:20:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from lsmarso@localhost) by lsmarso.dialup.access.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA00474; Sat, 10 May 1997 12:18:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19970510121840.08433@panix.com> Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 12:18:40 -0400 From: "Larry S. Marso" To: "Paul T. Root" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: smtp server? References: <199705101538.KAA21496@horton.iaces.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199705101538.KAA21496@horton.iaces.com>; from Paul T. Root on Sat, May 10, 1997 at 10:38:04AM -0500 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, May 10, 1997 at 10:38:04AM -0500, Paul T. Root wrote: > In a previous message, Shawn Ramsey said: > > Is there an easy way to restrict users outside our netmask from being able > > to use our SMTP server? I found this hard to believe, but last time I checked it was true. No one is preventing outsiders from accessing the SMTP server at **THE WHITE HOUSE**!! I think it's mailhost.whitehouse.gov or something like that. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 09:43:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA10608 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 09:43:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from boulder.syr.servtech.com (boulder.syr.servtech.com [206.106.144.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10587; Sat, 10 May 1997 09:41:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from boulder.syr.servtech.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by boulder.syr.servtech.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA07168; Sat, 10 May 1997 12:42:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3374A58F.167EB0E7@servtech.com> Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 12:42:55 -0400 From: Shawn Carey X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Eliuk CC: FreeBSD-Hackers , FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: Question ppp-2.2-970509 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Kevin Eliuk wrote: > > Good Morning, > > I am running 2.2.1-RELEASE and I tried to make the upgrade to ppp this > morning but it was not able to complete. > > The src is located in /usr/src/ppp-2.2-970509. On running make I > received: > [...] You need to put it in /usr/src/usr.sbin because the makefile looks for uucplock.c in ../../sbin/startslip. -Shawn Carey From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 09:55:26 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA11199 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 09:55:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.DPCSYS.com [209.25.4.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11193 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 09:55:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id QAA05828; Sat, 10 May 1997 16:54:03 GMT Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 09:54:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: Gilbert Bollinger cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SuperMicro P6DNF In-Reply-To: <3373CBD6.8B125857@nalu.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 9 May 1997, Gilbert Bollinger wrote: > drives. We are running the FreeBSD v3.0 CURRENT. We only use 1 > proccessor. We keep having reboots about 4 or 6 times a day. FreeBSD As long as you are only using a single processor you should go with 2.1.7 or 2.2.1. I wouldn't suggest running production machines on 3.0 without a compelling reason. > And would we hav any problems going back to 2.2 stable if we had to? You'll have to recompile all of your programs, rm the existing [uw]tmp files and make sure your user's logins are only 8 characters max. Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 10:06:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA11616 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:06:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mpeks.tomsk.su (mpeks.tomsk.su [193.124.182.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA11608 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:05:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mpeks.tomsk.su (8.6.11/8.6.9) with UUCP id BAA05339; Sun, 11 May 1997 01:05:14 +0800 Received: (from vas@localhost) by vas.tomsk.su (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA09628; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:06:44 +0800 (TSD) From: "Victor A. Sudakov" Message-Id: <199705100606.OAA09628@vas.tomsk.su> Subject: Re: Help on installing FreeBSD To: Johnson@subr.cmq.com Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 14:06:43 +0800 (TSD) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199705082336.SAA03558@lib1.subr.cmq.com> from "Johnson@subr.cmq.com" at "May 8, 97 05:55:26 pm" Organization: Tomsk Region Education Department X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Johnson@subr.cmq.com wrote: > I need help installing FreeBSD 2.2.1 [...] > created three partitions on my hard drive. Drive C: primary partition > running Dos 6.22/Win 3.1, a hidden primary partition running Windows > 95 and an extended partition which is a logical drive D: with about > 205MB on it. I wish to install FreeBSD on drive D. You cannot install FreeBSD 2.1.x on a logical drive or in an extended partition. You must install it in a primary partition. I am not sure about 2.2.1 but I would be greatly surprised if it can be installed in an extended partition. I am afraid you will have to backup and repartition your disk. -- Victor Sudakov http://www.tomsk.su/r/persons/vas.htm From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 10:06:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA11663 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:06:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mpeks.tomsk.su (mpeks.tomsk.su [193.124.182.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA11655 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:06:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mpeks.tomsk.su (8.6.11/8.6.9) with UUCP id BAA05379 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 May 1997 01:06:08 +0800 Received: (from vas@localhost) by vas.tomsk.su (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA09652 for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:10:21 +0800 (TSD) From: "Victor A. Sudakov" Message-Id: <199705100610.OAA09652@vas.tomsk.su> Subject: Truncated digests To: questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 14:10:21 +0800 (TSD) In-Reply-To: <199705091527.KAA11285@d2si.com> from "Alec Kloss" at "May 9, 97 10:27:58 am" Organization: Tomsk Region Education Department X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Alec Kloss wrote: > FreeBSD is a operating opearting system, somewhat > similar to Microsoft Windows. Ouch! God forbid ;-) Anti-off-topic: Why do some of the freebsd-questions-digests come truncated? #207, for example. -- Victor Sudakov http://www.tomsk.su/r/persons/vas.htm From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 10:07:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA11728 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:07:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mpeks.tomsk.su (mpeks.tomsk.su [193.124.182.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA11721 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:06:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by mpeks.tomsk.su (8.6.11/8.6.9) with UUCP id BAA05399; Sun, 11 May 1997 01:06:29 +0800 Received: (from vas@localhost) by vas.tomsk.su (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA10130; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:34:11 +0800 (TSD) From: "Victor A. Sudakov" Message-Id: <199705100634.OAA10130@vas.tomsk.su> Subject: Re: ? mgetty 0.99-Aug07, FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE, 1&1 Skyconnect (Creatix): Problem ? To: dl5bct@inss1.etec.uni-karlsruhe.de (Peter Cornelius) Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 14:34:10 +0800 (TSD) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Peter Cornelius" at "May 9, 97 06:44:50 pm" Organization: Tomsk Region Education Department X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Peter Cornelius wrote: > Since a couple of weeks I'm trying to get this bugger working. I even updated > from FreeBSD 2.1.5-RELEASE to 2.2.1-RELEASE to be somewhat more up to date > and maybe escape some possible old bugs in either FreeBSD or even mgetty ;-)) > and not to bug anyone with stone-aged software. But the effect hasn,t > changed after updating. > > I have used, and still do, the FreeBSD port collection's version of mgetty, > that is mgetty+sendfax version 0.98 in 2.1.5-RELEASE and now, with > 2.2.1-RELEASE, version 0.99-Aug07. Mgetty 0.98 in the ports collection was broken, I have Gert Doering's letter confirming this fact. Do not know about 2.2.1-RELEASE though. However, let us try and identify your problem. > ___ > ls -al /dev/modem /dev/cuaa1 > --- > crw-rw---- 1 uucp dialer 28, 129 May 8 16:31 /dev/cuaa1 > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 10 May 8 13:17 /dev/modem -> /dev/cuaa0 > (NOTE: also tried hard link with no effect) Are you sure the symbolic link "modem" points to the correct device? Where is your modem - cuaa1 or cuaa0? > > --- > /etc/ttys > --- [...] > # Serial terminals > ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" unknown off secure > ttyd1 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" unknown off secure > ttyd2 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" unknown off secure > ttyd3 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" unknown off secure I would advise you to remove getty from the appropriate device and replace it with mgetty. I have: #Modem on COM2 cuaa1 "/usr/local/sbin/mgetty -x5 -n3" pc3r on insecure I am using mgetty 0.99.9 not from the ports collection, but the portable version from ftp://ftp.leo.org/pub/comp/networking/communicaton/modem It works fine for me with a ZyXEL modem both for receiving and sending faxes and for dial-in. I had to edit the Makefile and policy.h manually before compiling. If you wish to use this version, I can mail you my configs. -- Victor Sudakov http://www.tomsk.su/r/persons/vas.htm From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 10:09:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA11872 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:09:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kevin.sunshine.net (pme43.sunshine.net [204.191.205.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11867 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:09:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cagey@localhost) by kevin.sunshine.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA03028; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:05:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 10:05:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin Eliuk Reply-To: Kevin Eliuk To: Paul Missman cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Installation Problems In-Reply-To: <9705101440.AA24516@milo.cfw.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 10 May 1997, Paul Missman wrote: > >Hello, >I am attempting to install freebsd from a dos partition ( I would have >tried ftp, but com4, where my modem is, isn't supported). So far, I've >gotten the freebsd partitions created, and set up the mounts for >/bogus, /,swap,/var, and /usr. I've downloaded all of the /bin files >from ftp.freebsd.org/pub/freebsd/2.2.1-release (bin.aa, bin.ab, etc.) >into c:\freebsd\bin. At the end of the install procedure, it looks >like it fsks (?) the partitions (slices), but when I try to boot from fsck(8) - filesystem consistency check and interactive repair >the completed process, it can't find the kernel, and in fact, says it >can't find 0:wd0s3a, which should be filesystem root, where I would / should reside at wd0a [ clip from sysinstall - help ] The compatibility slice will eventually be phased out, but it is still important right now for several reasons: 1. Some programs, as mentioned before, still don't work with the slice paradigm and need time to catch up. 2. The FreeBSD boot blocks are unable to look for a root file system in anything but a compatibility slice right now. This means that our root will always show up on "sd0a" in the above scenario, even though it really lives over on sd0s1a and would otherwise be referred to by its full slice name. [ /clip from sysinstall - help ] Simply replace the `sd' for `wd' >think the kernel image should reside. Also, the installation process >said that there were some errors, but I have no idea how to switch >virtual consoles to see any messages, so I have no idea what might In installation you can see error messages and the like by Alt >not have completed. For your info, I'm doing this on a system with >win95 and freebsd sharing a 2.5Gig drive. Partitions and slices are >as follows: > >wd0s1 FAT >wd0s2 Extended >wd0s3 freebsd >wd0s1 /bogus >wd0s3a / >wd0s3b swap >wd0s3e /var >wd0s3f /usr I suggest you allow it to set up your partitions in automatic mode and the add or edit the slices from that point. > That's about all I know at this point. BTW, I skipped kernel >configuration, assuming that if the kernel off the floppy image >booted, it was ok for me to use. Also, I have no idea what the >options are for the boot process. > By doing the configuration setup you eliminate conflicts of drivers. Doing this sets the parameters for the installed /kernel. >P.S. Processor is an AMD K5-133 (Pentium Clone). Good Luck :-) PS Relook over the install-notes re win95 to anticipate any more problems :-( _______________________________________ |\ /| If I hadn't asked | \ kevin_eliuk@sunshine.net / | the questions I asked, | \ Kevin G. Eliuk / | I wouldn't be answering | /^\_________________________/^\ | the questions I'm answering. | / \ | |/--===### Powered By FreeBSD 2.2.1 \| | www.freebsd.org | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 10:27:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA12724 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:27:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from super-g.inch.com (super-g.com [204.178.32.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12717 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:27:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (spork@localhost) by super-g.inch.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA12656; Sat, 10 May 1997 13:36:44 GMT Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 13:36:44 +0000 (GMT) From: spork X-Sender: spork@super-g.inch.com To: ZxOxRxRxO@aol.com cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is there a FreeBSD for Mac OS? In-Reply-To: <970510084433_-1834991848@emout02.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm running NetBSD on a MacIIx. It is rather interesting, and much easier to set up than I thought. I'll give you a hint that will save you pulling your hair out: Get good partitioning software and use the "SBC" kernel and install if you see any disk problems... Charles On Sat, 10 May 1997 ZxOxRxRxO@aol.com wrote: > Is there a freeBSD for mac os? I have heard that there was one. > and is this for 68k or PPC? > > thanx > From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 11:31:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA15420 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 11:31:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from narcissus.ml.org (root@brosenga.Pitzer.edu [134.173.120.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15415 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 11:31:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (fullermd@localhost) by narcissus.ml.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA23489; Sat, 10 May 1997 11:31:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 11:31:36 -0700 (PDT) From: The Devil Himself To: Steve Howe cc: ZxOxRxRxO@aol.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is there a FreeBSD for Mac OS? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 10 May 1997, Steve Howe wrote: > On Sat, 10 May 1997 ZxOxRxRxO@aol.com wrote: > > > Is there a freeBSD for mac os? I have heard that there was one. > > and is this for 68k or PPC? > > > > thanx > > see NetBSD ... Or OpenBSD; I've heard that it's more stable and has better VM support: http://www.netbsd.org and http://www.openbsd.org respectively. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- (I like this!!!) *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* |FreeBSD is good. FreeBSD is our friend. UNIX is our god.| *Micro$oft is bad. Micro$oft causes problems.* |MicroBSD??? I DON'T THINK SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!| |"I hate quotes in signature files" :-} MAtthew Fuller| *fullermd@narcissus.ml.org FreeBSD junkie* |http://keystone.westminster.edu/~fullermd Westminster College| *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 11:51:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA16058 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 11:51:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA16053 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 11:51:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-130 [207.14.72.130]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA26337 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 09:49:20 -0800 Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 10:42:04 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Installation Problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > 1. Some programs, as mentioned before, still don't work > with the slice paradigm and need time to catch up. i don't know too much about slices. can anyone say something about them. they're probably cool, but i still consider them non-standard goo. i assume they exist to partition more than 4 partitions on a hard drive, but i don't understand why FBSD can't partition as many "normal" partitions as it wants, or why it would want more than 4 partitions per drive ... does anyone think they are not a good idea? ever ls /dev and see all the funky listings for slices? From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 11:58:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA16380 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 11:58:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from milo.cfw.com (milo.cfw.com [205.219.240.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA16375 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 11:58:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from RAs12wb24.cfw.com by milo.cfw.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/12Dec95-0403PM) id AA32575; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:59:01 -0400 Message-Id: <9705101859.AA32575@milo.cfw.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.0544.0 From: "Paul Missman" To: Subject: Fw: Freebsd - It works, thanks. Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 14:58:14 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.0544.0 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ---- From: Paul Missman To: cagey@kevin.sunshine.net; data@ds9.abac.com; djls@gate.net Date: Saturday, May 10, 1997 2:54 PM Subject: Freebsd - It works, thanks. I got freebsd up and running on the same disk, though in a different partition, as the one I'm running Win95 on. The problems I had were as follows: 1. I exited the installation process before it copied the binaries. 2. I hadn't marked the freebsd partition as bootable. Perhaps instructions under novice installation need to be added here, with reassurance that this won't cause Win95 to become non-bootable. 3. Other than that, installation was pretty easy (even though I had to upload it all at 14.4k). Thanks to everyone, Paul Missman P.S. One question - does anyone know when ppp for COM4 might be added? Else, I will have to disable my COM1 and move my modem. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 12:31:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA17810 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 12:31:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from narcissus.ml.org (root@brosenga.Pitzer.edu [134.173.120.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA17805 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 12:31:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ben@localhost) by narcissus.ml.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA23746; Sat, 10 May 1997 12:31:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 12:31:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Snob Art Genre To: Dan Busarow cc: Gilbert Bollinger , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SuperMicro P6DNF In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 10 May 1997, Dan Busarow wrote: > > And would we hav any problems going back to 2.2 stable if we had to? > > You'll have to recompile all of your programs, rm the existing [uw]tmp > files and make sure your user's logins are only 8 characters max. I thought the [uw]tmp changes were between 2.1.x and 2.2. Hence all the X problems with 2.2. Am I wrong? > Dan > -- > Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 > DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com > Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 > > Ben "You have your mind on computers, it seems." From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 12:34:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA17967 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 12:34:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from milo.cfw.com (milo.cfw.com [205.219.240.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA17962 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 12:34:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from RAs12wb24.cfw.com by milo.cfw.com; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/12Dec95-0403PM) id AA08006; Sat, 10 May 1997 15:34:30 -0400 Message-Id: <9705101934.AA08006@milo.cfw.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.0544.0 From: "Paul Missman" To: Subject: Freebsd - it works. Thanks. Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 15:33:43 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.0544.0 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk One other thing I forgot to mention in getting freebsd up. It would be a good idea if the instructions for novices told people how to switch virtual terminals, and why. (Since the install procedure writes to another VT, it would be useful to know how to see the output.) Paul Missman From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 12:47:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA18561 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 12:47:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.DPCSYS.com [209.25.4.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA18556 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 12:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id TAA08557; Sat, 10 May 1997 19:46:01 GMT Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 12:45:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: Snob Art Genre cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SuperMicro P6DNF In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 10 May 1997, Snob Art Genre wrote: > I thought the [uw]tmp changes were between 2.1.x and 2.2. Hence all the X > problems with 2.2. Am I wrong? I thought they were caused by 3.0 stuff sneaking into early 2.2 I could be wrong, but my 2.2.0 only takes 8 char logins. Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 13:03:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA19296 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 13:03:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tok.qiv.com ([204.214.141.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA19291 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 13:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tok.qiv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with UUCP id PAA02269; Sat, 10 May 1997 15:00:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (jdn@localhost) by acp.qiv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA03429; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:55:45 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: acp.qiv.com: jdn owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 14:55:45 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jay D. Nelson" To: Steve Howe cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Installation Problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 10 May 1997, Steve Howe wrote: -> ->> 1. Some programs, as mentioned before, still don't work ->> with the slice paradigm and need time to catch up. -> ->i don't know too much about slices. ->can anyone say something about them. ->they're probably cool, but i still consider them ->non-standard goo. i assume they exist to partition Ok, I'll bite. This may or may not be accurate, but it's the way I understand the world. In a sense, it is non-standard goo, because it is a term used to deal with the brain dead method Micros**t had to deal with large drives. DOS (cursed spawn of CPM) is nothing more than what used to be called a monitor -- a low level mechanism of dealing with hardware. Remember -- it comes from an eight bit world. So what DOS must think of as a partition is called a slice in FreeBSD to distinguish the peculiar way of hacking a disk DOS uses to overcome address limitations, from a more rational method of allocating a disk into filesystems. Unix has never had large address space problems because it started as a 32 bit system. It took over a disk and divided it into "partitions" used for file systems. Today, there are many people growing out of the notion that computer technology comes from Redmond, WA. The term "slice" is nothing more than a term used to ease the transition of folks moving to a more capable operating environment. ->more than 4 partitions on a hard drive, but i don't ->understand why FBSD can't partition as many "normal" ->partitions as it wants, or why it would want more It does have a limitation of 8 per disk. ->than 4 partitions per drive ... does anyone think ->they are not a good idea? ever ls /dev and see all ->the funky listings for slices? -> See man fsck and man dump. Yes they are a good idea, and as you think about the uses of a "filesystem" as opposed to gross "hunks", I think you'll appreciate the distinction. Remember, also, that FreeBSD can use as many disks as you have controllers and addresses.. 250+ Gb on your FreeBSD system is only a matter of money, power and enough slots. Curiosity: any reason that 4 PCI slots with Ultra Wide controllers couldn't deal with 570Gb? ( 15*4*9.5Gb ) -- Jay From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 13:19:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA19754 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 13:19:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from luke.cpl.net ([206.85.245.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA19747 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 13:19:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (shawn@localhost) by luke.cpl.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA00285; Sat, 10 May 1997 13:19:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 13:19:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Shawn Ramsey To: John-David Childs cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: smtp server? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk m> > Is there an easy way to restrict users outside our netmask from being able > > to use our SMTP server? They way it is now, _anyone_ can set their SMTP > > server to us, and there is nothing we can do about it. Is there a way > > around this? > > > > thanks. > > > > http://spam.abuse.net/spam > http://www.informatik.uni-kiel.de/%7Eca/email/check.html#check_rcpt > > > Be prepared to deal with a lot of users who have multiple dialup accounts > and/or access the net from work via a different provider ;( It seems the solution at www.informatik.... will let you set it so you can relay only for who you want. Does anyone already have a sendmail.cf with this ruleset already set? I don't use/have a .mc file, and tried putting it directly into sendmail.cf, but get lots of errors. :( From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 13:28:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA20083 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 13:28:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from train.tgci.com ([205.185.169.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA20072 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 13:28:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emilyd ([206.250.85.68]) by train.tgci.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA21082 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 13:54:30 -0700 Message-Id: <199705102054.NAA21082@train.tgci.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Riley J. McIntire" To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 13:27:25 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: File descriptors Reply-to: chaos@tgci.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42a) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm getting some bad file descriptor errors that prevented me from compiling a new kernal (I'm new...), and got some help here about that. But I'm not clear about what causes bad file descriptors or even what they are/do. I've searched the docs, man hier, man fd and am still not clear. Do they indicate the state a file is in? Open, writable, locked? What constitutes a bad one? Is it caused by bad hardware? Disks? Controllers? I'm had stuff like this on more that one occasion: find: /usr/include/machine: Bad file descriptor find: /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/loop.c: Bad file descriptor find: /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/obstack.c: Bad file descriptor etc Last time I had to use clri and some other stuff to fix it. fsck doesn't take care of it. I am going to replace the IDE 1.2GB Maxtor with a Seagate scsi for this low volume webserver( and move it from 2.1.7 to 2.2.1--a good idea???). Will this fix the cause? Is a bad disk causing this? I haven't done a low-level format, but plan on it later. Should/will this show up anything? Could someone explain or point me to some documentation on this? Ciao, Riley From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 14:01:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA21508 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:01:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tok.qiv.com ([204.214.141.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21503 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:00:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tok.qiv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with UUCP id QAA02345; Sat, 10 May 1997 16:00:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (jdn@localhost) by acp.qiv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA05272; Sat, 10 May 1997 15:57:41 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: acp.qiv.com: jdn owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 15:57:41 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jay D. Nelson" To: Shawn Ramsey cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: smtp server? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have installed the macros from informatik. You need /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail to get the .mc files which is where these belong. You must rebuild your sendmail.cf file from the mc sources. If you haven't installed all sources, you'll at least have to install that. See /usr/src/usr.sbin/sendmail/README for details. The test script "chkspam", available at the same site, suggests that the macros are working, although I've seen nothing yet to confirm they are. (I've only had it in about a week.) -- Jay On Sat, 10 May 1997, Shawn Ramsey wrote: ->m> > Is there an easy way to restrict users outside our netmask from being ->able ->> > to use our SMTP server? They way it is now, _anyone_ can set their SMTP ->> > server to us, and there is nothing we can do about it. Is there a way ->> > around this? ->> > ->> > thanks. ->> > ->> ->> http://spam.abuse.net/spam ->> http://www.informatik.uni-kiel.de/%7Eca/email/check.html#check_rcpt ->> ->> ->> Be prepared to deal with a lot of users who have multiple dialup accounts ->> and/or access the net from work via a different provider ;( -> ->It seems the solution at www.informatik.... will let you set it so you can ->relay only for who you want. Does anyone already have a sendmail.cf with ->this ruleset already set? I don't use/have a .mc file, and tried putting ->it directly into sendmail.cf, but get lots of errors. :( -> -> -> From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 14:04:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA21613 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:04:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from citrine.cyberstation.net (hannibal@citrine.cyberstation.net [205.167.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21608 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:04:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (hannibal@localhost) by citrine.cyberstation.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA23497; Sat, 10 May 1997 16:04:54 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 16:04:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Dan Walters To: "Paul T. Root" cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: real audio over network doesn't work? In-Reply-To: <199705101535.KAA21451@horton.iaces.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 10 May 1997, Paul T. Root wrote: > Yep, it works fine for me. I have everything but the opl0 in my config. > Actually, I'm trying out the OSS sound subsystem currently. It > works pretty good. I haven't decided whether to buy it yet, since I > don't seen a huge value add. I can build a kernel just fine. > > Why do you have conflicts on every line? Do you really need them? That > my be the problem? I'm using 2.2.1-Release. Here's my Sound card config > (it worked too, before I put the OSS in). > > # Sound Card > controller snd0 > device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 vector sbintr > device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 6 > device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x300 > options "SBC_IRQ=5" > options "SB16_DMA=6" Well, I tried without all the conflicts stuff (there was a syntax change on the sound card config a couple months ago, so I just copied the new lines out of LINT, and that is what was there...) and without opl0, still no luck. I'm downgrading to 2.2 next week I guess, so at least I know it works there. :) ====================================================================== Dan Walters hannibal@cyberstation.net ====================================================================== From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 14:11:22 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA21963 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:11:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lightning.tbe.net (qmailr@lightning.tbe.net [208.208.122.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA21943 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:11:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 29203 invoked from network); 10 May 1997 21:07:47 -0000 Received: from port1.go-pc.com (HELO bc.go-pc.com) (206.20.105.140) by lightning.tbe.net with SMTP; 10 May 1997 21:07:47 -0000 Message-ID: <3374E472.6BF7@bythehand.com> Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 17:11:14 -0400 From: Bernard Courtney Reply-To: bc@bythehand.com Organization: Internet Creations By The Hand X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Truncated digests References: <199705100610.OAA09652@vas.tomsk.su> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Victor A. Sudakov wrote: > > Alec Kloss wrote: > > > FreeBSD is a operating opearting system, somewhat > > similar to Microsoft Windows. > > Ouch! God forbid ;-) > > Anti-off-topic: > > Why do some of the freebsd-questions-digests come truncated? #207, for > example. > > -- > Victor Sudakov > http://www.tomsk.su/r/persons/vas.htm Are you out of your god forsaken mind? Windows and FreeBSD are two VERY different things, with FreeBSD being on top!! From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 14:21:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA22681 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:21:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kevin.sunshine.net (pme45.sunshine.net [204.191.205.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA22673 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:21:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cagey@localhost) by kevin.sunshine.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA00414; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:17:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 14:17:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin Eliuk Reply-To: Kevin Eliuk To: Paul Missman cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Freebsd - It works, thanks. In-Reply-To: <9705101859.AA32575@milo.cfw.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 10 May 1997, Paul Missman wrote: > > ---- >From: Paul Missman >To: cagey@kevin.sunshine.net; data@ds9.abac.com; djls@gate.net >Date: Saturday, May 10, 1997 2:54 PM >Subject: Freebsd - It works, thanks. > I'm curious, do not all emailers give the option of use Reply To: I know Eudora does. :-) >I got freebsd up and running on the same disk, though in a different >partition, as the one I'm running Win95 on. The problems I had were as >follows: >1. I exited the installation process before it copied the binaries. >2. I hadn't marked the freebsd partition as bootable. Perhaps instructions >under novice installation need to be added here, with reassurance that this >won't cause Win95 to become non-bootable. >3. Other than that, installation was pretty easy (even though I had to >upload it all at 14.4k). >Thanks to everyone, Glad it was so painless, with regards 95, ... };-) I just received another AOL free `format-able' disk compliments of the other guys whom protect my MBR. I was thinking of turning it into a FreeBSD install floppy, rewrapping and returning to sender :-) >Paul Missman >P.S. One question - does anyone know when ppp for COM4 might be added? >Else, I will have to disable my COM1 and move my modem. > I think you should be initiated into being referred to the handbook: lynx /usr/share/doc/handbook/handbook_toc.html section 5.3.7 PS Glad to have you aboard :-) _______________________________________ |\ /| If I hadn't asked | \ kevin_eliuk@sunshine.net / | the questions I asked, | \ Kevin G. Eliuk / | I wouldn't be answering | /^\_________________________/^\ | the questions I'm answering. | / \ | |/--===### Powered By FreeBSD 2.2.1 \| | www.freebsd.org | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 14:26:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA23033 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:26:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rma.edu (rma.edu [207.0.141.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA23022 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:26:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alwan.rma.edu ([207.0.141.44]) by rma.edu with SMTP (IPAD 1.52) id 3268300 ; Sat, 10 May 1997 17:27:34 EST Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970510172546.006d5f78@rma.edu> X-Sender: alwan@rma.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 17:25:46 -0400 To: questions@freebsd.org From: Michael Alwan Subject: advantages of symmetric processing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk To anyone interested: I'm interested in a dual processor motherboard (i.e. Tyan Tomcat III Dual [original Pentium]) and symmetric multiprocessing as a way of a) increasing speed of apps under FreeBSD or WinNT b) taking advantage of falling Pentium prices (original socket 7 Pentiums without MMX) c) using my present 120 MHZ Pentium and d) allowing a relatively inexpensive upgrade path for a few years to come. On the other hand, there are other socket 7 processors like the AMD K6 with all the 32 bit optimizations, faster clock speeds, and lower prices than newer Intel stuff. The upgrade path (beyond 266 MHZ) seems unpredictable, and as far as I know, it can't be multiprocessed. Here's my question. All other things being equal (version of operating system, system bus speed, amount of ram, kernel configuration, disk speed, etc.) which runs a given app faster--symmetric multiprocessing or faster clock speeds with one processor? Compare, say, two 120 MHZ Pentiums to one 200 MHZ Pentium Pro. Do something CPU-intensive in a database. Which will come out ahead? What is the break-even point? I'm less likely to be networking or using my machine as a server and more likely to be image-processing or DTP or using a database. I haven't been researching this for long, but everything I've read seems to suggest adding a second processor doesn't increase the speed of a given operation more than 50%. There is a lot more information about the impact of cpu clock speeds, obviously because most people have one cpu. I also realize that at the rate new hardware and software is coming out, any prediction now might make no sense in 2 months. I'm just looking for the most bang for the bucks I have now. If anyone has any answers experience, or opinions, I'd be really interested. It's hard to get a straight answer from a vendor. Thanks, Michael From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 14:28:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA23199 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:28:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lightning.tbe.net (qmailr@lightning.tbe.net [208.208.122.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA23193 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:28:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 29803 invoked from network); 10 May 1997 21:24:57 -0000 Received: from port1.go-pc.com (HELO bc.go-pc.com) (206.20.105.140) by lightning.tbe.net with SMTP; 10 May 1997 21:24:57 -0000 Message-ID: <3374E878.992@bythehand.com> Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 17:28:24 -0400 From: Bernard Courtney Reply-To: bc@bythehand.com Organization: Internet Creations By The Hand X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: questions@freebsd.org CC: freebds-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Telnet Problems with 2.2.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, I just installed FreeBSD 2.2.1 on my web server. It is a P-75 with 64MB of memory. I previously had FreeBSD 2.1.5 installed on it. When I now telnet the the machenes IP address over my local network it takes at least 3 min. for the login prompt to come up. I never had this problem with 2.1.5, I ho not have any idea what might be causing this problem. Thanks in advance for all of your help. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 14:34:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA23560 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:34:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d2si.com (macbeth.d2si.com [206.8.31.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA23553 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from alec@localhost) by d2si.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA19831; Sat, 10 May 1997 16:34:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Alec Kloss Message-Id: <199705102134.QAA19831@d2si.com> Subject: Re: Truncated digests In-Reply-To: <3374E472.6BF7@bythehand.com> from Bernard Courtney at "May 10, 97 05:11:14 pm" To: bc@bythehand.com Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 16:34:14 -0500 (CDT) Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Bernard Courtney is responsible for: > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 10 16:27:08 1997 > Message-ID: <3374E472.6BF7@bythehand.com> > Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 17:11:14 -0400 > From: Bernard Courtney > Reply-To: bc@bythehand.com > Organization: Internet Creations By The Hand > X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) > To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Truncated digests > References: <199705100610.OAA09652@vas.tomsk.su> > Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Precedence: bulk > Victor A. Sudakov wrote: > > > > Alec Kloss wrote: > > > > > FreeBSD is a operating opearting system, somewhat > > > similar to Microsoft Windows. > > > > Ouch! God forbid ;-) > > [stuff deleted] > > Are you out of your god forsaken mind? Windows and FreeBSD are two VERY > different things, with FreeBSD being on top!! > Okay, just to attempt to clear my name, I was writing back to someone who probably didn't have a strong grasp of computer terminology. I was trying to give her something to grasp to. Windows and FreeBSD are similar in that they are both operating systems that run on Intel-based personal computers. I'm aware of many of the differences, which is why I no longer use Windows (or other Microsoft) products when I can help it, which is basically all the time. This really doesn't belong on the questions list so could we all just drop it. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 14:47:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA24128 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.DPCSYS.com [209.25.4.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA24119 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:47:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id VAA11347; Sat, 10 May 1997 21:46:23 GMT Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 14:46:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: Shawn Ramsey cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: smtp server? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 10 May 1997, Shawn Ramsey wrote: > It seems the solution at www.informatik.... will let you set it so you can > relay only for who you want. Does anyone already have a sendmail.cf with > this ruleset already set? I don't use/have a .mc file, and tried putting > it directly into sendmail.cf, but get lots of errors. :( We've been running these, or earlier versions, since January. They work! These rulesets are designed to prevent use of your machines to relay mail for un-authorized sites, usually spammers. You can install these anywhere in your .cf, I have ours following ruleset 98. In case your mail reader strips them, there has to be one or more tabs between the test on the left and the action in the middle, and between the action and the optional comment. An explanation of how they works follows: ---- START OF RULES ---------------------------------------------- F{JunkMail} /etc/sendmail.junkmail F{MxHosts} /etc/sendmail.mxhosts F{LocalIP} /etc/sendmail.localip F{SpamIP} /etc/sendmail.spamip Scheck_mail # Bounce junk mail R<$={JunkMail}> $#error $@ 5.7.1 $: "Access denied" R$={JunkMail} $#error $@ 5.7.1 $: "Access denied" R$* $: $>3 $1 R$* < @ $* $={JunkMail} > $* $#error $@ 5.7.1 $: "Access denied" R$* < @ $* $={JunkMail} . > $* $#error $@ 5.7.1 $: "Access denied" Scheck_rcpt R$+ $: $(dequote "" $&{client_addr} $) $| $1 R0 $| $* $@ ok no client addr: directly invoked R$={LocalIP}$* $| $* $@ ok from here R$={SpamIP}$* $| $* $#error $@ 5.7.1 $: 571 Access denied $1 # not local, not known spammer. check rcpt R$* $| $* $: $>3 $2 # remove local part, maybe repeatedly R$*<@$=w.>$* $>3 $1 $3 R$*<@$*$={MxHosts}.>$* $>3 $1 $4 # still something left? R$*<@$+>$* $#error $@ 5.7.1 $: 571 no relay ---- END OF RULES --------------------------------------------------- F{JunkMail} /etc/sendmail.junkmail This is a flat text file containing the domain names of known spammers, one per line. You can also have entries for abusive individuals at otherwise friendly sites. i.e. cyberpromo.com quantcom.com ImaSpammer@aol.com F{MxHosts} /etc/sendmail.mxhosts This is a text file containing the domain names that we do provide MX services for. Domains in your class Cw do not need to be included here. i.e. goodguy.com myfriend.com F{LocalIP} /etc/sendmail.localip A list of IP address *prefixes* and complete IP addresses that you consider local. i.e. 127.0.0.1 209.25.4 209.25.5 209.25.6.139 209.25.6.140 F{SpamIP} /etc/sendmail.spamip A list of IP address prefixes and/or addresses of known spammers 205.199.212 206.27.86.210 207.124.161.50 The rules: Scheck_mail This rule is run when the client issues the MAIL command to sendmail, MAIL From: dan@dpcsys.com R<$={JunkMail}> $#error $@ 5.7.1 $: "Access denied" R$={JunkMail} $#error $@ 5.7.1 $: "Access denied" Check for complete addresses and reject if found (ImaSpammer@aol.com) R$* $: $>3 $1 Renormalize the address R$* < @ $* $={JunkMail} > $* $#error $@ 5.7.1 $: "Access denied" R$* < @ $* $={JunkMail} . > $* $#error $@ 5.7.1 $: "Access denied" Check for mail from domains of know spammers. Note that machine.cyberpromo.com, machine.subdomain.cyberpromo.com and cyberpromo.com will all be caught. Scheck_rcpt This rule is run when the client issues a RCPT command to sendmail, RCPT To: victime@target.domain R$+ $: $(dequote "" $&{client_addr} $) $| $1 Get the IP address of the sender and put it on the left side of the "$|", the recipient goes on the right side. R0 $| $* $@ ok no client addr: directly invoked If there is no IP address associated with the sender they are local R$={LocalIP}$* $| $* $@ ok from here If the IP address matches an entry in LocalIP they are local R$={SpamIP}$* $| $* $#error $@ 5.7.1 $: 571 Access denied $1 If the IP address matches an entry in SpamIP reject the mail # not local, not known spammer. check rcpt R$* $| $* $: $>3 $2 Send the recipient address ($2) through ruleset 3 to get a "normal" address to examine. # remove local part, maybe repeatedly R$*<@$=w.>$* $>3 $1 $3 This rule will repeatedly remove references to members of Cw (your own domain and sometimes virtual domains) R$*<@$*$={MxHosts}.>$* $>3 $1 $4 This rule will repeatedly remove references to hosts that you allow to use your system as a relay (people you MX for, we put virtual domains and UUCP connected customers here) # still something left? R$*<@$+>$* $#error $@ 5.7.1 $: 571 no relay Stripping Cw and MxHosts should have left us with something like "joe@" for legitimate mail. If there is anything left on the right hand side of the "@" this was a relay attempt. NB: The address rewriting done within these rules is *not* propogated back through other rules. The only thing sendmail looks for from these rules is an error return. Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 14:49:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA24364 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:49:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from milehigh.denver.net (jdc@milehigh.denver.net [204.144.180.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA24359 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:49:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jdc@localhost) by milehigh.denver.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA17628; Sat, 10 May 1997 16:06:08 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 16:06:07 -0600 (MDT) From: John-David Childs To: Shawn Ramsey cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: smtp server? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 10 May 1997, Shawn Ramsey wrote: > > http://spam.abuse.net/spam > > http://www.informatik.uni-kiel.de/%7Eca/email/check.html#check_rcpt > > > > > > Be prepared to deal with a lot of users who have multiple dialup accounts > > and/or access the net from work via a different provider ;( > > It seems the solution at www.informatik.... will let you set it so you can > relay only for who you want. Does anyone already have a sendmail.cf with > this ruleset already set? I don't use/have a .mc file, and tried putting > it directly into sendmail.cf, but get lots of errors. :( > Here's a diff of my sendmail.cf with and without the HACKS from www.informatik (note that I didn't put the {LocalIP, RelayTO, LocalNames, JUNK} files in the "standard" places): 78a80,103 > ##### @(#)use_ip.m4 1.0 (Claus Assmann) 1996-11-23 ##### > > > > > ##### @(#)use_relayto.m4 1.0 (Claus Assmann) 1996-11-23 ##### > > > > ##### @(#)use_names.m4 1.0 (Claus Assmann) 1996-11-23 ##### > > > > > ##### @(#)check_mail.m4 2.0 (Claus Assmann) 1997-03-23 ##### > > > > > > ##### @(#)check_rcpt4.m4 2.3 (Claus Assmann) 1997-03-16 ##### > > > 158a184,198 > # file containing IP numbers of machines which can use our relay > F{LocalIP} /etc/adm/mail/mailip > > # file containing names we relay to > F{RelayTo} /etc/adm/mail/mailrelayto > > # file containing names of machines which can use our relay > F{LocalNames} /etc/adm/mail/mailnames > > # file containing full e-mail addresses of well-known spammers: > # spammer@address.domain SPAMMER > # or junk domain: > # junk.domain JUNK > Kjunk btree /etc/adm/mail/junk > 533a574,576 > > > 785a829,883 > > > > # check for junk domain/spammers > Sjunk > # lookup domain in database > R$*<@$+>$* $:$1<@$(junk $2$)>$3 > # exists? return > R$*<@JUNK>$* $@$1<@JUNK>$2 > # lookup address in database > R$*<@$+>$* $:$1<@$(junk $1@$2 $:$2$)>$3 > # exists? return > R$*<@SPAMMER>$* $@$1<@SPAMMER>$2 > # mv one subdomain in front, try again > R$*<@$-.$-.$+>$* $: $2<@> $>junk $1<@$3.$4>$5 > # undo damage > R$*<@>$*<@$+>$* $2<@$1.$3>$4 > > Scheck_mail > # don't check these > R<$*@$=w> $@ ok shortcut > R$* $: $>3 $1 canonify > R$- $@ ok local host > # no host without a . in the FQHN ? > R$*<@$->$* $#error $@ 5.1.8 $: 518 invalid host name $2, check your configuration. > # this is dangerous! no real name > # R$*<@$*$~P>$* $#error $@ 4.1.8 $: 418 unresolvable host name $2$3, check your setup. > # now remove the dot > R$*<@$*.>$* $: $1<@$2>$3 > # and check the database > R$*<@$*>$* $: $>junk $1<@$2>$3 > R$*<@$*JUNK>$* $#error $@ 5.7.1 $: "571 This domain is banned, contact your local admin." go away > R$*<@$*SPAMMER>$* $#error $@ 5.7.1 $: "571 You are banned, contact your local admin." go away > > > > Scheck_rcpt > # first: get client address > R$+ $: $(dequote "" $&{client_addr} $) $| $1 > R0 $| $* $@ ok client_addr is 0 for sendmail -bs > R$={LocalIP}$* $| $* $@ ok from here > # next: get client name > R$* $| $+ $: $(dequote "" $&{client_name} $) $| $2 > R $| $* $@ ok no client name: directly invoked > #R$- $| $* $@ ok for those without full DNS... > R$*$=w $| $* $@ ok from here > R$*$={LocalNames} $| $* $@ ok from allowed system > # now check other side > R$* $| $* $: $>3 $2 > # remove RelayTo part (maybe repeatedly) > R$*<@$*$={RelayTo}.>$* $>3 $1 $4 > # remove local part (maybe repeatedly) > R$*<@$=w.>$* $>3 $1 $3 > # still something left? > R$*<@$+>$* $#error $@ 5.7.1 $: 571 we do not relay From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 14:51:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA24587 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:51:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kevin.sunshine.net (pme53.sunshine.net [204.191.205.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA24564; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:51:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cagey@localhost) by kevin.sunshine.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA00454; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:47:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 14:47:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin Eliuk Reply-To: Kevin Eliuk To: Shawn Carey cc: FreeBSD-Hackers , FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: Question ppp-2.2-970509 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 10 May 1997, Shawn Carey wrote: >Kevin Eliuk wrote: >> >> Good Morning, >> >> I am running 2.2.1-RELEASE and I tried to make the upgrade to ppp this >> morning but it was not able to complete. >> >> The src is located in /usr/src/ppp-2.2-970509. On running make I >> received: >> >[...] > >You need to put it in /usr/src/usr.sbin because the makefile looks for >uucplock.c in ../../sbin/startslip. > Thanks Shawn. The update works great. I tested out with a major download and the changed MRU and it was a vast improvement over the old. Kudos to all those involved :-) _______________________________________ |\ /| If I hadn't asked | \ kevin_eliuk@sunshine.net / | the questions I asked, | \ Kevin G. Eliuk / | I wouldn't be answering | /^\_________________________/^\ | the questions I'm answering. | / \ | |/--===### Powered By FreeBSD 2.2.1 \| | www.freebsd.org | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 15:01:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA25711 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 15:01:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from luke.cpl.net ([206.85.245.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA25703 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 15:01:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (shawn@localhost) by luke.cpl.net (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA01287; Sat, 10 May 1997 15:01:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 15:01:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Shawn Ramsey To: Michael Alwan cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: advantages of symmetric processing In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970510172546.006d5f78@rma.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > To anyone interested: > > I'm interested in a dual processor motherboard (i.e. Tyan Tomcat III Dual > [original Pentium]) and symmetric multiprocessing as a way of a) increasing > speed of apps under FreeBSD or WinNT b) taking advantage of falling Pentium > prices (original socket 7 Pentiums without MMX) c) using my present 120 MHZ > Pentium and d) allowing a relatively inexpensive upgrade path for a few > years to come. > > On the other hand, there are other socket 7 processors like the AMD K6 with > all the 32 bit optimizations, faster clock speeds, and lower prices than > newer Intel stuff. The upgrade path (beyond 266 MHZ) seems unpredictable, > and as far as I know, it can't be multiprocessed. > > Here's my question. All other things being equal (version of operating > system, system bus speed, amount of ram, kernel configuration, disk speed, > etc.) which runs a given app faster--symmetric multiprocessing or faster > clock speeds with one processor? > > Compare, say, two 120 MHZ Pentiums to one 200 MHZ Pentium Pro. Do > something CPU-intensive in a database. Which will come out ahead? What is > the break-even point? I'm less likely to be networking or using my machine > as a server and more likely to be image-processing or DTP or using a database. > > I haven't been researching this for long, but everything I've read seems to > suggest adding a second processor doesn't increase the speed of a given > operation more than 50%. There is a lot more information about the impact > of cpu clock speeds, obviously because most people have one cpu. I also > realize that at the rate new hardware and software is coming out, any > prediction now might make no sense in 2 months. I'm just looking for the > most bang for the bucks I have now. > > If anyone has any answers experience, or opinions, I'd be really > interested. It's hard to get a straight answer from a vendor. Im no expert, and have never even used a dual processor system. But one thing I have heard a lot about them, is you can start one program/process, such as compiling a huge program. You could then continue to use the system with no slowdown because it will use the second processor. But I would think a single 200 would be faster than 2 120's, unless you are doing somehting like what I just described. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 15:14:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA26738 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 15:14:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from train.tgci.com ([205.185.169.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA26733 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 15:14:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from emilyd ([206.250.85.68]) by train.tgci.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA21385; Sat, 10 May 1997 15:41:01 -0700 Message-Id: <199705102241.PAA21385@train.tgci.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Riley J. McIntire" To: Michael Alwan Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 15:13:55 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: advantages of symmetric processing Reply-to: chaos@tgci.com CC: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.42a) Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 17:25:46 -0400 > To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG > From: Michael Alwan > Subject: advantages of symmetric processing > To anyone interested: [snip] > On the other hand, there are other socket 7 processors like the AMD K6 with > all the 32 bit optimizations, faster clock speeds, and lower prices than > newer Intel stuff. The upgrade path (beyond 266 MHZ) seems unpredictable, > and as far as I know, it can't be multiprocessed. Sure it can with the appropriate motherboard. > > Here's my question. All other things being equal (version of operating > system, system bus speed, amount of ram, kernel configuration, disk speed, > etc.) which runs a given app faster--symmetric multiprocessing or faster > clock speeds with one processor? All things being equal, if you double your clock speed you will double your on-chip processing capability. Your on board i/o capacity stays the same. If you double your processor, you may or may not double your processing capability. Assuming you're looking to increase the performance of a single application, as opposed to increasing performance of a system running multiple applications (or instances of same), the application must be written to take advantage of SMP. Assuming such an application, it *may* also take better advantage of disk i/o and memory i/o. Maybe. > Compare, say, two 120 MHZ Pentiums to one 200 MHZ Pentium Pro. Do > something CPU-intensive in a database. Which will come out ahead? What is > the break-even point? I'm less likely to be networking or using my machine > as a server and more likely to be image-processing or DTP or using a database. Depends on the database ( or app) and what you're doing with it. A single threaded app will run faster on the 200 Mhz PPro. A multi-threaded app *might* take better advantage of the 2-120s, although you are comparing apples and oranges. The PPro can really scream with certain apps. > > I haven't been researching this for long, but everything I've read seems to > suggest adding a second processor doesn't increase the speed of a given > operation more than 50%. There is a lot more information about the impact > of cpu clock speeds, obviously because most people have one cpu. I also > realize that at the rate new hardware and software is coming out, any > prediction now might make no sense in 2 months. I'm just looking for the > most bang for the bucks I have now. > > If anyone has any answers experience, or opinions, I'd be really > interested. It's hard to get a straight answer from a vendor. > > Thanks, > > Michael You really need to define what you want to do and what application you're using to do it with before you can get a real grasp of this question. Ciao, Riley From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 15:15:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA26862 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 15:15:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from main.statsci.com (main.statsci.com [206.63.206.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA26852 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 15:15:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from plum.statsci.com [206.63.206.43] with smtp by main.statsci.com with smtp (/\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.3 #3) id m0wQKQP-000ZMnC; Sat, 10 May 97 15:15 PDT Received: from plum.statsci.com [206.63.206.43] with smtp by plum.statsci.com with smtp (/\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.3 #3) id m0wQKQQ-0007SEC; Sat, 10 May 97 15:15 PDT Message-Id: To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: recent upgrade to XFree86 3.2 References: <199703232245.OAA05404@one.sabami.seaslug.org> In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 23 Mar 1997 14:45:23 -0800." <199703232245.OAA05404@one.sabami.seaslug.org> Reply-to: scott@statsci.com Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 15:15:33 -0700 From: Scott Blachowicz Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Scott Blachowicz wrote: > On my 2.1.5-RELEASE system at home, I just installed the XFree86 3.2 > distribution and I fired up the X server (XF86_Mach64 for a 2 year old > Mach64 card) and got some weird results. The colormap seems to get > screwed up. OK...now I have a little more data...I've upgraded my system to 2.2.1 (from the Walnut Creek CD) running XFree86 3.2A and I get the same results. I tried submitting a bug report via www.xfree86.org, but haven't gotten any response from that. Also... 1) it seems to work OK if I set '-bpp 16' instead of the default of '-bpp 8'. But, I only get 800x600 resolution out of it instead of 1280x1024 and I'd prefer the latter. 2) If I exit out of the screwy session with Ctrl-Alt-BackSpace, then do another 'startx', I get a panic out of FreeBSD: panic: ufs_lock: recursive lock not expected pid: 465 3) Appended to this message are the details from my bug report to XFree86.org... Any clues would be greatly appreciated! Scott Blachowicz Ph: 206/283-8802x240 Mathsoft (Data Analysis Products Div) 1700 Westlake Ave N #500 scott@statsci.com Seattle, WA USA 98109 Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org Regarding: XF86_Mach64 3.2 vs my colormap Email: Scott.Blachowicz@seaslug.org ------------------------------------------------------------ XFree86 Version: XFree86 Version 3.2 / X Window System Area: Xserver Server: XF86_Mach64 Video Card: (--) Mach64: PCI: Mach64 GX rev 1, Aperture @ 0xfb000000, Sparse I/O @ 0x02ec (--) Mach64: card type: PCI (--) Mach64: Memory type: 0 (--) Mach64: Clock type: ATI18818-1/ICS2595 (--) Mach64: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 135.000 MHz (**) Mach64: Mode "1280x1024": mode clock = 110.000 (**) Mach64: Mode "1024x768": mode clock = 85.000 (**) Mach64: Mode "800x600": mode clock = 50.000 (**) Mach64: Mode "640x480": mode clock = 31.500 (**) Mach64: Virtual resolution: 1280x1024 (--) Mach64: videoram: 2048k Description: The colormaps seem to be messed up on entry to server. Normally I get an initial ssh passphrase window with gray & dark blue colors, but with this server I get (pretty close to) black on black. After that I get an xterm window that normally has a wheat background, but now it is pink and my ctwm startup does the gradual dark screen to full intensity screen which instead of dark to light sequencing does this interesting technicolor effect. I've been using a XFree86 3.1.2 XF86_Mach64 server as a fallback and that _seems_ to work just fine. Output from the XF86_Mach64 server 3.2 follows: XFree86 Version 3.2 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6100) Release Date: Oct 26 1996 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) Operating System: FreeBSD 2.2.0 Configured drivers: Mach64: accelerated server for ATI Mach64 graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 1) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) (using VT number 7) XF86Config: /etc/XF86Config (**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values (**) Mouse: type: Microsoft, device: /dev/mouse, baudrate: 1200, 3 button emulation (timeout: 50ms) (**) Mach64: Graphics device ID: "ATI mach64" (**) Mach64: Monitor ID: "CTX 1765GM" (--) Mach64: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 78.86 kHz. Deleted. (**) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/10 0dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/freefont/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X1 1R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" (--) Mach64: PCI: Mach64 GX rev 1, Aperture @ 0xfb000000, Sparse I/O @ 0x02ec (--) Mach64: card type: PCI (--) Mach64: Memory type: 0 (--) Mach64: Clock type: ATI18818-1/ICS2595 (--) Mach64: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 135.000 MHz (**) Mach64: Mode "1280x1024": mode clock = 110.000 (**) Mach64: Mode "1024x768": mode clock = 85.000 (**) Mach64: Mode "800x600": mode clock = 50.000 (**) Mach64: Mode "640x480": mode clock = 31.500 (**) Mach64: Virtual resolution: 1280x1024 (--) Mach64: videoram: 2048k (--) Mach64: Using hardware cursor (--) Mach64: Using 8 MB aperture @ 0xfb000000 (--) Mach64: Ramdac is ATI-68875/TLC34075 (--) Mach64: Using 8 bits per RGB value (--) Mach64: Pixmap cache: 1 256x256 slots, 2 128x128 slots, 8 64x64 slots (--) Mach64: Font cache: 16 fonts PEX extension module not loaded XIE extension module not loaded Output from XF86_Mach64 3.1.2 server follows: XFree86 Version 3.1.2 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6001) Operating System: FreeBSD 2.0.5 Configured drivers: Mach64: accelerated server for ATI Mach64 graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 0) Using syscons driver with X support (version 2.0) (using VT number 7) XF86Config: /etc/XF86Config (**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values (**) Mouse: type: Microsoft, device: /dev/mouse, baudrate: 1200, 3 button emulation (timeout: 50ms) (**) Mach64: Graphics device ID: "ATI mach64" (**) Mach64: Monitor ID: "CTX 1765GM" (--) Mach64: Mode "1280x1024" needs hsync freq of 78.86 kHz. Deleted. (**) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/10 0dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/freefont/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X1 1R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" (--) Mach64: card type: PCI (--) Mach64: Clock type: ATI18818-1 (--) Mach64: Number of Clocks: 32 (--) Mach64: clocks: 50.35 56.64 63.00 72.00 40.00 44.90 49.50 50.00 (--) Mach64: clocks: 0.00 110.00 126.00 135.00 0.00 80.00 75.00 65.00 (--) Mach64: clocks: 25.18 28.32 31.50 36.00 20.00 22.45 24.75 25.00 (--) Mach64: clocks: 0.00 55.00 63.00 67.50 0.00 40.00 37.50 32.50 (--) Mach64: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 135.000 MHz (**) Mach64: Mode "1280x1024": mode clock = 110.000, clock used = 110.000 (**) Mach64: Mode "1024x768": mode clock = 65.000, clock used = 65.000 (**) Mach64: Mode "800x600": mode clock = 36.000, clock used = 36.000 (**) Mach64: Mode "640x480": mode clock = 25.175, clock used = 25.175 (**) Mach64: Virtual resolution: 1280x1024 (--) Mach64: videoram: 2048k (--) Mach64: Using hardware cursor (--) Mach64: Using 4 MB aperture (--) Mach64: Ramdac is ATI-68875/TLC34075 (--) Mach64: Using 6 bits per RGB value (--) Mach64: Aperture mapped to 0x7c000000 (--) Mach64: Pixmap cache: 1 256x256 slots, 2 128x128 slots, 8 64x64 slots (--) Mach64: Font cache: 16 fonts Repeat By: startx -- /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_Mach64 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 15:23:06 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA27553 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 15:23:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flea.best.net (aswright@flea.best.net [206.184.139.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA27545 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 15:23:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (aswright@localhost) by flea.best.net (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id PAA05561 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 15:23:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: flea.best.net: aswright owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 15:23:03 -0700 (PDT) From: "A. S. Wright" X-Sender: aswright@flea.best.net To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: soundscape Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk What sound slection is a soundscape VIVO 90? I am not quite sure which to select. Thanks. -asw From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 16:10:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA29498 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 16:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [207.239.68.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29472 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 16:09:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freyes.dh.i-2000.com (slip166-72-219-216.ny.us.ibm.net [166.72.219.216]) by federation.addy.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA03050; Sat, 10 May 1997 19:09:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705102309.TAA03050@federation.addy.com> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "questions@FreeBSD.ORG" Cc: "rinunez@telcel.net.ve" Date: Sat, 10 May 97 19:07:17 -0400 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 1.91 For OS/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: Re: 100 GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id QAA29473 Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 10 May 1997 13:03:40 -0700 (PDT), rinunez@telcel.net.ve (rinunez)wrote: >Dear Gentlemen, > >What kind of hard disk architecture would you recommend me if I need to run >FreeBSD to store around 100 GB of information? > >I suppose I d use a SCSI card, but... Where can I find 100GB SCSI disks? I would recommend you go with an SCSI controller which supports RAID 5. When you have that much data RAID 5 can be a real live saver. Check http://www.adaptec.com/raid/ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 16:28:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA29869 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 16:28:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from adn.edu.ph (aea@sili.adn.edu.ph [165.220.57.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29837 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 16:27:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (aea@localhost) by adn.edu.ph (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA00275 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 06:42:51 +0800 Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 06:42:51 +0800 (PST) From: ART To: questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: finger problem. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk hello, i have a newly installed server running FreeBSD 3.0-current. the problem is on its 'finger' feature, i can hardly get a result when trying to finger a linux box system (like system running slakware), but it seems to work fine fingering servers running UNIX System V and FreeBSD. thank you. |art| - Ateneo de Naga Network From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 17:00:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA01202 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 17:00:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rma.edu (rma.edu [207.0.141.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01195 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 17:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alwan.rma.edu ([207.0.141.102]) by rma.edu with SMTP (IPAD 1.52) id 3288200 ; Sat, 10 May 1997 20:00:26 EST Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970510195849.006c38d8@rma.edu> X-Sender: alwan@rma.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 19:58:49 -0400 To: chaos@tgci.com From: Michael Alwan Subject: Re: advantages of symmetric processing Cc: questions@freebsd.org.shawn@luke.cpl.net In-Reply-To: <199705102241.PAA21385@train.tgci.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk At 03:13 PM 5/10/97 +0000, you wrote: >> Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 17:25:46 -0400 >> To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG >> From: Michael Alwan >> Subject: advantages of symmetric processing > >> To anyone interested: >[snip] > > >> On the other hand, there are other socket 7 processors like the AMD K6 with >> all the 32 bit optimizations, faster clock speeds, and lower prices than >> newer Intel stuff. The upgrade path (beyond 266 MHZ) seems unpredictable, >> and as far as I know, it can't be multiprocessed. > >Sure it can with the appropriate motherboard. > >> >> Here's my question. All other things being equal (version of operating >> system, system bus speed, amount of ram, kernel configuration, disk speed, >> etc.) which runs a given app faster--symmetric multiprocessing or faster >> clock speeds with one processor? > >All things being equal, if you double your clock speed you will double >your on-chip processing capability. Your on board i/o capacity stays >the same. > >If you double your processor, you may or may not double your >processing capability. Assuming you're looking to increase the >performance of a single application, as opposed to increasing >performance of a system running multiple applications (or instances >of same), the application must be written to take advantage of SMP. > >Assuming such an application, it *may* also take better advantage of >disk i/o and memory i/o. Maybe. > > >> Compare, say, two 120 MHZ Pentiums to one 200 MHZ Pentium Pro. Do >> something CPU-intensive in a database. Which will come out ahead? What is >> the break-even point? I'm less likely to be networking or using my machine >> as a server and more likely to be image-processing or DTP or using a database. > >Depends on the database ( or app) and what you're doing with it. A >single threaded app will run faster on the 200 Mhz PPro. A >multi-threaded app *might* take better advantage of the 2-120s, >although you are comparing apples and oranges. The PPro can really >scream with certain apps. > >> >> I haven't been researching this for long, but everything I've read seems to >> suggest adding a second processor doesn't increase the speed of a given >> operation more than 50%. There is a lot more information about the impact >> of cpu clock speeds, obviously because most people have one cpu. I also >> realize that at the rate new hardware and software is coming out, any >> prediction now might make no sense in 2 months. I'm just looking for the >> most bang for the bucks I have now. >> >> If anyone has any answers experience, or opinions, I'd be really >> interested. It's hard to get a straight answer from a vendor. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Michael > >You really need to define what you want to do and what application >you're using to do it with before you can get a real grasp of this >question. > >Ciao, > >Riley > Riley, Alec, Shawn: Thanks for the input. You folks brought up just the point I hoped to hear something about--multithreading and apps written to take advantage of multiprocessing. Since I do nothing critical (yet) with FreeBSD, I hesitated to get too specific about apps running on other platforms, being too removed from questions@freebsd.org. On Windows NT Workstation I might be running Adobe Pagemaker and Photoshop--not necessarily at the same time. I think the latest Photoshop IS multhreaded, but not Pagemaker. I asked the question here because, in general, people really know what they're talking about and most "tech support" people know less than I do. Alec Kloss gave me another scenario in which more than one process is running in a given app; in that case, it seems I would benefit from multiprocessing in terms of increased throughput but not in terms of latency per process. And that is, I guess, the answer I was looking for. If, in general, one program runs one process at a time, then a specific cpu type (i.e. PPro vs Pentium) and cpu speed are more important than number of cpu's. I was trying to get a handle on exactly how symmetric multiprocessing worked. About the K6--I'm just parroting what I've been told by vendors of systems, none of whom offer a multi-K6 system. As you suggest, an approriate motherboard will probably be forthcoming soon, though I don't understand why an existing one with the correct voltage wouldn't work, if the K6 decodes all x86 instructions and plugs into a socket 7. Thanks to all--I would be happy to hear anything else you have to say. Michael From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 17:06:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA01443 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 17:06:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pimaia2w.prodigy.com (pimaia2w.prodigy.com [198.83.19.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA01437 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 17:05:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mime4.prodigy.com (mime4.prodigy.com [192.168.254.43]) by pimaia2w.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA22828 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 20:01:17 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by mime4.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) id UAA264332 for freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 10 May 1997 20:00:57 -0400 Message-Id: <199705110000.UAA264332@mime4.prodigy.com> X-Mailer: Prodigy Internet GW(v0.9beta) - ae01dm04sc03 From: RCRB20A@prodigy.com (MR ROBERT C RIOS) Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 20:00:57, -0500 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: TOSHIBA T5200C/200 UNIT Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk MY GRAND FATHER LEFT ME THIS NOTEBOOK COMUTER BUT I FOUND OUT THAT HE FORMATED THE HARD DRIVE NOW IT WON"T BOOT UP IS THERE ANY WAY I CAN BUY THE BOOT UP DISK AND SOFTWARE IT NEEDS I HAVE DOS 6.0 AND WIN 3.1 DISK BUT IT WON"T BOOT IT UP THIS IS WHAT IT SAYS IN THE SET UP. 1990 Toshiba T5200 setup Memory Base=640kb ext.=0.0mb +288kb shadow bios rom enable Display adaptor=vga compatible Display device=Plasma Plasma display mode=color Plasma gray scale=normal:semi-bright,intence:bright Hard drive 200mb Communacation irq address serial a = 4 3f8h serial b = 3 2f8h Dedicated Modem=not in use irq5 Base address =3e8h Otheres Processor speed =high Printer port type =output Time & Date Thank You Robert C. Rios I would like to keep it as it was my grand fathers and Ihe left it in his will From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 17:19:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA02198 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 17:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from shell.dave-world.net (root@shell.dave-world.net [204.189.73.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA02190 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 17:19:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from yaning.dave-world.net (m70bmi.Dave-World.net [206.26.2.70]) by shell.dave-world.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA04971 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 19:14:27 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <33750F99.115D@shell.dave-world.net> Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 19:15:21 -0500 From: Yaning Wang Reply-To: yaning@shell.dave-world.net Organization: State Farm X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Help !! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Recently I bought FreeBSD from Walnut Creek CDROM, but I have some trouble to install it to my PC. My machine: Packard Bell Legend 100CD Pentium 60 Matshita CDROM/Panasonic Drive CR-563 HD1 Western Digital 2500RTL, 2.5G (this one is controled by companion EZ drive) HD2 Seagate ST3491A, 420M (this one can be control by either EZ drive or the BIOS) RAM 24M The problem: 1. It does not install to HD1 at all. Why ? (I only tried to install to HD2, alone or make HD2 as primary) 1. Boot up to DOS and install directly from CD I bootp up machine to DOS and I can see FreeBSD CD. Then I launch the installation from CD drive (CD-drive>install). In the installation 'media' menu, when I choose CD-ROM, the error message said: CD-ROM is not found (something like that) 2. I then made a boot floppy, according the procedure. when I chose CD-ROM as the media type, I got the same error message. 3. Then I tried to install from a DOS partition. It works but not the way I wanted. a. It only installed from a primary DOS partition in HD2. Since HD2 is too small, not much I can install. b. Worse of all is, my Win 95 is not able to run after the install. (I have to boot the machine from HD2 in order to use FreeBSD). When I press F1 to boot from DOS, it just sits there do nothing. Please give me some help, anything will be highly appreciated. -- Yaning Wang ========================================================== TP Analyst Network Service, Systems Technology State Farm Insurance Companies http://homepage.dave-world.net/~yaning From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 17:20:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA02282 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 17:20:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.cdrom.com [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA02275 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 17:20:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from netcom20.netcom.com (stanb@netcom20.netcom.com [192.100.81.133]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA03391 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 17:19:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from stanb@localhost) by netcom20.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id UAA14754; Sat, 10 May 1997 20:19:46 -0400 From: stanb@netcom.com (Stan Brown) Message-Id: <199705110019.UAA14754@netcom20.netcom.com> Subject: Hylaax port version To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.com (Free BSD Questions list) Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 20:19:46 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there a reason that the Hylafax port is basedupon version 3.0 patchlevel 10, when the current version is 4.0 ? -- Stan Brown stanb@netcom.com 404-996-6955 Factory Automation Systems Atlanta Ga. -- Look, look, see Windows 95. Buy, lemmings, buy! Pay no attention to that cliff ahead... Henry Spencer (c) 1997 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 17:53:37 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA03533 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 17:53:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gate.fidata.fi (gate.fidata.fi [193.64.102.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA03528 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 17:53:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zeta.fidata.fi (zeta.fidata.fi [193.64.103.213]) by gate.fidata.fi (8.8.5/8.8.0) with ESMTP id DAA10852 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 03:53:28 +0300 (DST) Received: (from tomppa@localhost) by zeta.fidata.fi (8.8.5/8.8.0) id DAA18170; Sun, 11 May 1997 03:53:26 +0300 (EET DST) Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 03:53:26 +0300 (EET DST) Message-Id: <199705110053.DAA18170@zeta.fidata.fi> From: Tomi Vainio MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: 2.2 stable hang or reboot X-Mailer: VM 6.29 under 19.15 XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: tomppa@fidata.fi Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Before make world I normally do mount -u -o async,noatime / mount -u -o async,noatime /u mount but my system hangs or reboots if do it on script or with cut & paste. If I but sleep 1 between commands it works. What happens when these operations are done too fast? Tomppa --- May 11 03:08:50 tick /kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-1996 FreeBSD Inc. May 11 03:08:50 tick /kernel: Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 May 11 03:08:51 tick /kernel: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. May 11 03:08:51 tick /kernel: May 11 03:08:51 tick /kernel: FreeBSD 2.2-STABLE #0: Fri May 2 21:59:44 EET DST 1997 May 11 03:08:51 tick /kernel: tomppa@tick:/u/local/src/sys/compile/TICK May 11 03:08:51 tick /kernel: Calibrating clock(s) ... i586 clock: 232520679 Hz, i8254 clock: 1193149 Hz May 11 03:08:51 tick /kernel: CPU: Pentium Pro (232.52-MHz 686-class CPU) May 11 03:08:51 tick /kernel: Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x619 Stepping=9 May 11 03:08:51 tick /kernel: Features=0xf9ff,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV> May 11 03:08:51 tick /kernel: real memory = 67108864 (65536K bytes) May 11 03:08:51 tick /kernel: avail memory = 63700992 (62208K bytes) May 11 03:08:51 tick /kernel: pcibus_setup(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x80005840 May 11 03:08:51 tick /kernel: pcibus_setup(1a): mode1res=0x80000000 (0x80000000) May 11 03:08:51 tick /kernel: pcibus_check: device 0 is there (id=12378086) May 11 03:08:51 tick /kernel: Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: May 11 03:08:51 tick /kernel: configuration mode 1 allows 32 devices. May 11 03:08:52 tick /kernel: chip0 rev 2 on pci0:0 May 11 03:08:52 tick /kernel: chip1 rev 1 on pci0:1:0 May 11 03:08:52 tick /kernel: chip2 rev 0 on pci0:1:1 May 11 03:08:52 tick /kernel: mapreg[20] type=1 addr=0000e800 size=0010. May 11 03:08:52 tick /kernel: I/O Recovery Timing: 8-bit 3.5 clocks, 16-bit 3.5 clocks May 11 03:08:52 tick /kernel: Extended BIOS: disabled May 11 03:08:52 tick /kernel: Lower BIOS: disabled May 11 03:08:52 tick /kernel: Coprocessor IRQ13: disabled May 11 03:08:52 tick /kernel: Mouse IRQ12: disabled May 11 03:08:52 tick /kernel: Interrupt Routing: A: , B: , C: , D: May 11 03:08:52 tick /kernel: MB0: , MB1: May 11 03:08:52 tick /kernel: de0 rev 35 int a irq 15 on pci0:9 May 11 03:08:52 tick /kernel: mapreg[10] type=1 addr=0000e000 size=0080. May 11 03:08:52 tick /kernel: mapreg[14] type=0 addr=fa800000 size=0080. May 11 03:08:52 tick /kernel: reg16: ioaddr=0xe000 size=0x80 May 11 03:08:53 tick /kernel: de0: 21040 [10Mb/s] pass 2.3 May 11 03:08:53 tick /kernel: de0: address 00:40:c7:94:07:97 May 11 03:08:53 tick /kernel: de0: enabling BNC/AUI port May 11 03:08:53 tick /kernel: vga0 rev 1 int a irq 12 on pci0:11 May 11 03:08:53 tick /kernel: mapreg[10] type=0 addr=fa000000 size=4000. May 11 03:08:53 tick /kernel: mapreg[14] type=0 addr=fb800000 size=800000. May 11 03:08:53 tick /kernel: ahc0 rev 0 int a irq 11 on pci0:12 May 11 03:08:53 tick /kernel: mapreg[10] type=1 addr=0000d800 size=0100. May 11 03:08:53 tick /kernel: mapreg[14] type=0 addr=f9800000 size=1000. May 11 03:08:53 tick /kernel: reg20: virtual=0xf49a3000 physical=0xf9800000 size=0x1000 May 11 03:08:53 tick /kernel: ahc0: Reading SEEPROM...done. May 11 03:08:53 tick /kernel: internal50 cable is present May 11 03:08:53 tick /kernel: internal68 cable not present May 11 03:08:53 tick /kernel: brdctl == 0xac May 11 03:08:53 tick /kernel: external cable is present May 11 03:08:53 tick /kernel: eprom is present May 11 03:08:53 tick /kernel: brdctl == 0xac May 11 03:08:54 tick /kernel: low byte termination disabled, high byte termination enabled May 11 03:08:54 tick /kernel: ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs May 11 03:08:54 tick /kernel: ahc0: Resetting Channel A May 11 03:08:54 tick /kernel: ahc0: Downloading Sequencer Program...ahc0: 418 instructions downloaded May 11 03:08:54 tick /kernel: Done May 11 03:08:54 tick /kernel: ahc0: Probing channel A May 11 03:08:54 tick /kernel: ahc0 waiting for scsi devices to settle May 11 03:08:54 tick /kernel: ahc0: target 0 synchronous at 20.0MHz, offset = 0xf May 11 03:08:54 tick /kernel: ahc0: target 0 Tagged Queuing Device May 11 03:08:54 tick /kernel: (ahc0:0:0): "SEAGATE ST32155N 0532" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 May 11 03:08:54 tick /kernel: sd0(ahc0:0:0): Direct-Access 2049MB (4197405 512 byte sectors) May 11 03:08:54 tick /kernel: sd0(ahc0:0:0): with 4177 cyls, 8 heads, and an average 125 sectors/track May 11 03:08:54 tick /kernel: ahc0: target 1 synchronous at 10.0MHz, offset = 0xf May 11 03:08:54 tick /kernel: ahc0: target 1 Tagged Queuing Device May 11 03:08:54 tick /kernel: (ahc0:1:0): "CONNER CP30540 545MB3.5 B0BD" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 May 11 03:08:54 tick /kernel: sd1(ahc0:1:0): Direct-Access 520MB (1065912 512 byte sectors) May 11 03:08:54 tick /kernel: sd1(ahc0:1:0): with 2242 cyls, 6 heads, and an average 79 sectors/track May 11 03:08:54 tick /kernel: ahc0: target 3 synchronous at 10.0MHz, offset = 0xf May 11 03:08:55 tick /kernel: ahc0: target 3 Tagged Queuing Device May 11 03:08:55 tick /kernel: (ahc0:3:0): "SEAGATE ST5660N 0518" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 May 11 03:08:55 tick /kernel: sd2(ahc0:3:0): Direct-Access 520MB (1065664 512 byte sectors) May 11 03:08:55 tick /kernel: sd2(ahc0:3:0): with 3002 cyls, 4 heads, and an average 88 sectors/track May 11 03:08:55 tick /kernel: ahc0: target 6 synchronous at 10.0MHz, offset = 0xf May 11 03:08:55 tick /kernel: (ahc0:6:0): "PLEXTOR CD-ROM PX-12TS 1.02" type 5 removable SCSI 2 May 11 03:08:55 tick /kernel: cd0(ahc0:6:0): CD-ROM cd present [316752 x 2048 byte records] May 11 03:08:55 tick /kernel: probe0(ahc0:9:0): scsi_cmd May 11 03:08:55 tick /kernel: probe0(ahc0:9:0): scsi_done May 11 03:08:55 tick /kernel: (ahc0:9:0): command: 0,0,0,0,0,0-[0 bytes] May 11 03:08:55 tick /kernel: probe0(ahc0:9:0): scsi_cmd May 11 03:08:55 tick /kernel: probe0(ahc0:9:0): scsi_done May 11 03:08:55 tick /kernel: (ahc0:9:0): command: 40,0,0,3,0,0,0,0,0,0-[0 bytes] May 11 03:08:55 tick /kernel: probe0(ahc0:9:0): scsi_cmd May 11 03:08:55 tick /kernel: probe0(ahc0:9:0): scsi_done May 11 03:08:55 tick /kernel: (ahc0:9:0): command: 12,0,0,0,2c,0-[44 bytes] May 11 03:08:55 tick /kernel: ------------------------------ May 11 03:08:56 tick /kernel: 000: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 May 11 03:08:56 tick /kernel: 016: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 May 11 03:08:56 tick /kernel: 032: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 May 11 03:08:56 tick /kernel: ------------------------------ May 11 03:08:56 tick /kernel: pci0: uses 8409216 bytes of memory from f9800000 upto fbffffff. May 11 03:08:56 tick /kernel: pci0: uses 400 bytes of I/O space from d800 upto e80f. May 11 03:08:56 tick /kernel: Probing for devices on the ISA bus: May 11 03:08:56 tick /kernel: sc0: the current keyboard controller command byte 0065 May 11 03:08:56 tick /kernel: kbdio: RESET_KBD return code:00fa May 11 03:08:56 tick /kernel: kbdio: RESET_KBD status:00aa May 11 03:08:56 tick /kernel: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard May 11 03:08:56 tick /kernel: sc0: BIOS video mode:3 May 11 03:08:56 tick /kernel: sc0: VGA registers upon power-up May 11 03:08:56 tick /kernel: 50 18 10 00 10 00 03 00 02 67 60 4f 50 83 55 81 May 11 03:08:56 tick /kernel: bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 ff ff 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 May 11 03:08:56 tick /kernel: b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c May 11 03:08:56 tick /kernel: 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff May 11 03:08:57 tick /kernel: sc0: video mode:24 May 11 03:08:57 tick /kernel: sc0: VGA registers for mode:24 May 11 03:08:57 tick /kernel: 50 18 10 00 10 00 03 00 02 67 60 4f 50 83 55 81 May 11 03:08:57 tick /kernel: bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 00 00 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 May 11 03:08:57 tick /kernel: b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c May 11 03:08:57 tick /kernel: 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff May 11 03:08:57 tick /kernel: sc0: VGA color <4 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> May 11 03:08:57 tick /kernel: sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa May 11 03:08:57 tick /kernel: sio1: type 16550A May 11 03:08:57 tick /kernel: sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa May 11 03:08:57 tick /kernel: sio0: type 16550A May 11 03:08:57 tick /kernel: lpt0: disabled, not probed. May 11 03:08:57 tick /kernel: wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 flags 0x80ff80ff on isa May 11 03:08:57 tick /kernel: wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): , 32-bit, multi-block-8 May 11 03:08:57 tick /kernel: wd0: 516MB (1057392 sectors), 1049 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S May 11 03:08:57 tick /kernel: fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa May 11 03:08:57 tick /kernel: fdc0: NEC 72065B May 11 03:08:57 tick /kernel: fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in May 11 03:08:58 tick /kernel: pas0 at 0x388 irq 10 drq 5 on isa May 11 03:08:58 tick /kernel: pas0: May 11 03:08:58 tick /kernel: opl0 at 0x388 on isa May 11 03:08:58 tick /kernel: opl0: May 11 03:08:58 tick /kernel: sb0 at 0x220 irq 7 drq 1 on isa May 11 03:08:58 tick /kernel: sb0: May 11 03:08:58 tick /kernel: npx0 on motherboard May 11 03:08:58 tick /kernel: npx0: INT 16 interface May 11 03:08:58 tick /kernel: imasks: bio c0004840, tty c003001a, net c0028000 May 11 03:08:58 tick /kernel: BIOS Geometries: May 11 03:08:58 tick /kernel: 0:03fd0f3f 0..1021=1022 cylinders, 0..15=16 heads, 1..63=63 sectors May 11 03:08:58 tick /kernel: 1:03fe3f20 0..1022=1023 cylinders, 0..63=64 heads, 1..32=32 sectors May 11 03:08:58 tick /kernel: 2:02073f20 0..519=520 cylinders, 0..63=64 heads, 1..32=32 sectors May 11 03:08:58 tick /kernel: 3:02073f20 0..519=520 cylinders, 0..63=64 heads, 1..32=32 sectors May 11 03:08:58 tick /kernel: 0 accounted for May 11 03:08:58 tick /kernel: Device configuration finished. May 11 03:08:58 tick /kernel: Considering FFS root f/s. May 11 03:08:59 tick /kernel: configure() finished. May 11 03:08:59 tick /kernel: sd0s1: type 0xa5, start 32, end = 4196351, size 4196320 : OK From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 18:35:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA05071 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 18:35:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from node1.frontiernet.net (root@node1.frontiernet.net [205.232.174.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA05060 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 18:35:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from savage (usr4-16.dial.roc.frontiernet.net [205.232.172.16]) by node1.frontiernet.net (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id VAA34690 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 21:30:02 -0400 Message-ID: <337520D5.3F67@frontiernet.net> Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 21:28:53 -0400 From: Jeremy & Beth X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: vs. Linux Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm currently a CS student and we've been using the Sun System V OS. My quick question is - what would be the closest match to System V, Slackware Linux or FreeBSD? Is there a difference in the applications? or is it just a matter of the kernel? Thanks in advance, jeremy From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 19:09:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA06025 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 19:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from blue.ct.net (root@blue.ct.net [205.160.247.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA06019 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 19:09:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bulldog (pm02_28.ct.net [205.160.247.92]) by blue.ct.net (8.7.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA17893 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 22:23:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <33752950.78E5@ct.net> Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 22:05:04 -0400 From: Matt Byrd Reply-To: mattb@ct.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: I dunno but I need answers... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I wanted to get a new OS (Win95 is horrible) but I wanted to be able to keep Windows 95 because it has a ton of programs for it. If I download FreeBSD, can I still get into both OS's easily?? Thanks Matt From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 19:11:57 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA06101 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 19:11:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from narcissus.ml.org (root@brosenga.Pitzer.edu [134.173.120.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA06096 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 19:11:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ben@localhost) by narcissus.ml.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA26945; Sat, 10 May 1997 19:11:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 19:11:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Snob Art Genre To: Jeremy & Beth cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vs. Linux In-Reply-To: <337520D5.3F67@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 10 May 1997, Jeremy & Beth wrote: > I'm currently a CS student and we've been using the Sun System V OS. My > quick question is - what would be the closest match to System V, > Slackware Linux or FreeBSD? Is there a difference in the applications? > or is it just a matter of the kernel? Linux is more similar to SVR4 than FreeBSD is. FreeBSD is a "pure" BSD, while Linux has some BSDisms and some SVR4isms. FreeBSD and Linux have different applications and kernels, though FreeBSD can run Linux apps. Really, though, neither Linux nor FreeBSD is much like Solaris, except insofar as they're all unix. (Linux isn't officially unix but if it walks like a duck . . .) > Thanks in advance, > jeremy > Ben "You have your mind on computers, it seems." From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 19:14:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA06171 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 19:14:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from narcissus.ml.org (root@brosenga.Pitzer.edu [134.173.120.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA06166 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 19:14:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (fullermd@localhost) by narcissus.ml.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA27019; Sat, 10 May 1997 19:14:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 19:14:02 -0700 (PDT) From: The Devil Himself To: Jeremy & Beth cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vs. Linux In-Reply-To: <337520D5.3F67@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 10 May 1997, Jeremy & Beth wrote: > I'm currently a CS student and we've been using the Sun System V OS. My > quick question is - what would be the closest match to System V, > Slackware Linux or FreeBSD? Is there a difference in the applications? > or is it just a matter of the kernel? Linux is more SysV flavored, whereas FreeBSD is (surprise!) more BSD flavored. Mostly, the flavor is a matter of the kernel and the base binarys in the distribution; the switches and names of commands, organization of the manpages, etc. Of course, there's been a large number of raging debates about the relative abilities of FreeBSD and Linux, and there has been a debate forever as to SysV vs. BSD. You COULD just learn BSD (which is better) ....... ;) > > Thanks in advance, > jeremy > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* |FreeBSD is good. FreeBSD is our friend. UNIX is our god.| *Micro$oft is bad. Micro$oft causes problems.* |MicroBSD??? I DON'T THINK SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!| |"I hate quotes in signature files" :-} MAtthew Fuller| *fullermd@narcissus.ml.org FreeBSD junkie* |http://keystone.westminster.edu/~fullermd Westminster College| *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 19:30:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA06729 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 19:30:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from narcissus.ml.org (root@brosenga.Pitzer.edu [134.173.120.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA06716 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 19:30:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ben@localhost) by narcissus.ml.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA27362; Sat, 10 May 1997 19:30:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 19:30:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Snob Art Genre To: Matt Byrd cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I dunno but I need answers... In-Reply-To: <33752950.78E5@ct.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Yes. You select which one when you boot your computer. On Sat, 10 May 1997, Matt Byrd wrote: > I wanted to get a new OS (Win95 is horrible) but I wanted to be able to > keep Windows 95 because it has a ton of programs for it. If I download > FreeBSD, can I still get into both OS's easily?? > Thanks > Matt > Ben "You have your mind on computers, it seems." From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 19:54:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA07499 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 19:54:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mars.genwell.com ([157.151.227.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA07494 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 19:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mars.genwell.com (localhost.genwell.com [127.0.0.1]) by mars.genwell.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA00378 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 12:58:01 -0700 Message-ID: <3374D349.41C67EA6@genwell.com> Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 12:58:01 -0700 From: Brian Howell Organization: Genwell X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Config fails during kernel build X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk When I ran config after having just edited my configuration file on my virginal 2.2.x system, (just loaded it from the CD-ROM), config aborted with the message.... config: can't open ../config/devices.(null) And that's all she wrote. I know it's probably something really _stupid_ like I'm running config in the wrong directory--I'm in the directory that contains my edited kernel file: /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/ I admit to being a total newbie at this. Thanks for your assistance, Brian Howell From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 19:57:43 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA07612 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 19:57:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.clearview.com.au (mercury.clearview.com.au [203.27.227.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA07599 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 19:57:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from earth.clearview.com.au (earth.clearview.com.au [203.27.227.75]) by mercury.clearview.com.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA21302 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 12:57:28 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 12:57:28 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199705110257.MAA21302@mercury.clearview.com.au> X-Sender: bala@mercury.clearview.com.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Bala Periasamy Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk unsubscribe bala@cst.com.au ------------------------------------------------------------------ Bala Periasamy web: http://www.clearview.com.au IT Specialist email: bala@clearview.com.au Clearview Technologies From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 19:57:59 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA07644 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 19:57:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.clearview.com.au (mercury.clearview.com.au [203.27.227.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA07637 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 19:57:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from earth.clearview.com.au (earth.clearview.com.au [203.27.227.75]) by mercury.clearview.com.au (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA21311 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 12:57:55 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 12:57:55 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199705110257.MAA21311@mercury.clearview.com.au> X-Sender: bala@mercury.clearview.com.au X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Bala Periasamy Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk help ------------------------------------------------------------------ Bala Periasamy web: http://www.clearview.com.au IT Specialist email: bala@clearview.com.au Clearview Technologies From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 20:35:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA08820 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 20:35:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA08806; Sat, 10 May 1997 20:34:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199705110334.UAA08806@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Truncated digests To: vas@vas.tomsk.su (Victor A. Sudakov) Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 20:34:56 -0700 (PDT) Cc: questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199705100610.OAA09652@vas.tomsk.su> from "Victor A. Sudakov" at May 10, 97 02:10:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Victor A. Sudakov wrote: > > Why do some of the freebsd-questions-digests come truncated? #207, for > example. Victor, freebsd-questions-digest v03.n206 is 74814 bytes long. does your mail system support mail messages this long? all digests will be less then 100,000 long (at this time) jmb From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 20:41:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA09135 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 20:41:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from d2si.com (macbeth.d2si.com [206.8.31.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA09130 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 20:41:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from alec@localhost) by d2si.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA20738; Sat, 10 May 1997 22:41:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Alec Kloss Message-Id: <199705110341.WAA20738@d2si.com> Subject: Re: vs. Linux In-Reply-To: <337520D5.3F67@frontiernet.net> from Jeremy & Beth at "May 10, 97 09:28:53 pm" To: jnbbend@frontiernet.net (Jeremy & Beth) Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 22:41:27 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Jeremy & Beth is responsible for: > From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat May 10 20:44:23 1997 > Message-ID: <337520D5.3F67@frontiernet.net> > Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 21:28:53 -0400 > From: Jeremy & Beth > X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) > To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: vs. Linux > Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Precedence: bulk > I'm currently a CS student and we've been using the Sun System V OS. My > quick question is - what would be the closest match to System V, > Slackware Linux or FreeBSD? Is there a difference in the applications? > or is it just a matter of the kernel? > > Thanks in advance, > jeremy > I'm uncertain what sorts of things you would be trying to do, but if your school has a program like mine, you probably write lots of C++ programs. If this is the case, I suspect that either Linux or FreeBSD could be a good choice for you. I personally have had more experience with FreeBSD (which I like because of the excellent support) whereas Linux is a little less centralized. If it helps you decide, I've used FreeBSD to write programs in C, C++, and Scheme that all had to run on Sun System V to turn them in. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 21:25:21 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA10371 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 21:25:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kevin.sunshine.net (pme19.sunshine.net [204.191.205.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA10365 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 21:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cagey@localhost) by kevin.sunshine.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA00925; Sat, 10 May 1997 21:20:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 21:20:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin Eliuk Reply-To: Kevin Eliuk To: Yaning Wang cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help !! In-Reply-To: <33750F99.115D@shell.dave-world.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk [ begin FreeBSD FAQ clip ] 2.13. What about disk managers? My BIOS doesn't support large drives! FreeBSD recognises the Ontrack Disk Manager and makes allowances for it. Other disk managers are not supported. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ If you just want to use the disk with FreeBSD you don't need a disk manager. Just configure the disk for as much space as the BIOS can deal with (usually 504 megabytes), and FreeBSD should figure out how much space you really have. If you're using an old disk with an MFM controller, you may need to explicitly tell FreeBSD how many cylinders to use. If you want to use the disk with FreeBSD and another operating system, you may be able to do without a disk manager: just make sure the FreeBSD boot partition and the slice for the other operating system are in the first 1024 cylinders. [ end FreeBSD FAQ clip ] I believe the above is still true and if not I'm sure someone will jump in with a correction. I use Ontrack Disk Manager and it is quite compatible with FreeBSD. There is a good tutorial through: http://www.freebsd.org/docs.html :dealing with running Multi OS's that you probably should read through before proceeding. I know it's not much but its a place to start. Don't Panic it's all still there as a matter of fact if you use the install floppy you should be able to see your dos formatted partition -- unless you mounted it in the partition editor. Good Luck. On Sat, 10 May 1997, Yaning Wang wrote: >Recently I bought FreeBSD from Walnut Creek CDROM, but I have some >trouble to install it to my PC. > >My machine: >Packard Bell Legend 100CD >Pentium 60 >Matshita CDROM/Panasonic Drive CR-563 >HD1 Western Digital 2500RTL, 2.5G (this one is controled by companion EZ >drive) >HD2 Seagate ST3491A, 420M (this one can be control by either EZ drive or >the BIOS) >RAM 24M > >The problem: >1. It does not install to HD1 at all. Why ? > >(I only tried to install to HD2, alone or make HD2 as primary) >1. Boot up to DOS and install directly from CD > I bootp up machine to DOS and I can see FreeBSD CD. Then I launch > the installation from CD drive (CD-drive>install). In the > installation 'media' menu, when I choose CD-ROM, the error message > said: > CD-ROM is not found (something like that) > >2. I then made a boot floppy, according the procedure. when I chose > CD-ROM as the media type, I got the same error message. > >3. Then I tried to install from a DOS partition. It works but not the >way I wanted. > a. It only installed from a primary DOS partition in HD2. Since HD2 >is too > small, not much I can install. > b. Worse of all is, my Win 95 is not able to run after the install. > (I have to boot the machine from HD2 in order to use FreeBSD). >When >I press > F1 to boot from DOS, it just sits there do nothing. > >Please give me some help, anything will be highly appreciated. > > >-- >Yaning Wang >========================================================== >TP Analyst >Network Service, Systems Technology >State Farm Insurance Companies >http://homepage.dave-world.net/~yaning _______________________________________ |\ /| | \ kevin_eliuk@sunshine.net / | | \ Kevin G. Eliuk / | | /^\_________________________/^\ | | / \ | |/--===### Powered By FreeBSD 2.2.1 \| | www.freebsd.org | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 21:33:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA10725 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 21:33:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ridge.spiritone.com (ridge.spiritone.com [205.139.108.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA10719 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 21:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from joes.users.spiritone.com (joes.users.spiritone.com [205.139.111.224]) by ridge.spiritone.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA13149 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 21:28:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from joes@localhost) by joes.users.spiritone.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA02567 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 May 1997 21:31:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Stein Message-Id: <199705110431.VAA02567@joes.users.spiritone.com> Subject: Pager gateway? To: "FreeBSD Questions List "@joes.users.spiritone.com Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 19:52:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I would like to write myself (in fact, I have) a script that will send the Date, From, and Subject of messages in my incoming mail spool. I thought I could do it with chat, but apparently cannot (chat keeps reading from the file and doing the send-expect thing). Is there an easy fix, or am I going to have to hack some c programming to do it.... (if so, I guess that's okay, I just wasn't looking forward to it :-) Thanks, joe From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 22:07:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA11969 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 22:07:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA11962 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 22:07:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-132 [207.14.72.132]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA28433; Sat, 10 May 1997 20:04:52 -0800 Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 20:57:31 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: "Jay D. Nelson" cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Installation Problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 10 May 1997, Jay D. Nelson wrote: > On Sat, 10 May 1997, Steve Howe wrote: > -> > ->> 1. Some programs, as mentioned before, still don't work > ->> with the slice paradigm and need time to catch up. > -> > ->i don't know too much about slices. > ->can anyone say something about them. > ->they're probably cool, but i still consider them > ->non-standard goo. i assume they exist to partition ok - i'm remembering some things ... FBSD must use the same MBR as DOS, and due to the 512 byte space of the MBR, there is a restiction of 4 partition tables, which are used to load any of 4 partition entry blocks into memory - which are then used to bootstrap an OS on that particular partition. i believe this is all done by the BIOS up to the point of of jumping to the OS's first instructions - so things must remain DOS compatable up until the point of the OS taking off (since the BIOS does all the analyzing of MBR/partition entry blocks), which means the all bootable filesystems on the drive. so i would -guess- a slice is just an extra block somewhere in a FBSD partition that contains data for more "psuedo-partitions" that only FBSD can deal with. but i still don't understand why it was so important to have these extra "psuedo-partitions" at the cost of making things more non-standard. i mean - if you really wanted 8 partitions, why not just get a second hard drive? / /dos /usr /var isn't that enough for a 1 drive system? > Ok, I'll bite. This may or may not be accurate, but it's the way I > understand the world. In a sense, it is non-standard goo, because it is a > term used to deal with the brain dead method Micros**t had to deal with > large drives. DOS (cursed spawn of CPM) is nothing more than what used to > be called a monitor -- a low level mechanism of dealing with hardware. > Remember -- it comes from an eight bit world. So what DOS must think of as > a partition is called a slice in FreeBSD to distinguish the peculiar way > of hacking a disk DOS uses to overcome address limitations, from a more > rational method of allocating a disk into filesystems. > > It does have a limitation of 8 per disk. > > -- Jay ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 22:09:45 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA12082 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 22:09:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA12070 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 22:09:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-132 [207.14.72.132]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA28443; Sat, 10 May 1997 20:07:14 -0800 Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 20:59:54 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: Jeremy & Beth cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vs. Linux In-Reply-To: <337520D5.3F67@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 10 May 1997, Jeremy & Beth wrote: > I'm currently a CS student and we've been using the Sun System V OS. My > quick question is - what would be the closest match to System V, > Slackware Linux or FreeBSD? Is there a difference in the applications? > or is it just a matter of the kernel? > > Thanks in advance, > jeremy BSD and System V are opposite sides of the spectrum - so to speak, and Linux is in the middle, using features from each. but you probably could care less unless your going to hack the "lower-levels" ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 22:12:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA12264 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 22:12:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA12259 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 22:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-132 [207.14.72.132]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA28448; Sat, 10 May 1997 20:09:37 -0800 Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 21:02:17 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: Matt Byrd cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I dunno but I need answers... In-Reply-To: <33752950.78E5@ct.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 10 May 1997, Matt Byrd wrote: > I wanted to get a new OS (Win95 is horrible) but I wanted to be able to > keep Windows 95 because it has a ton of programs for it. If I download > FreeBSD, can I still get into both OS's easily?? > Thanks > Matt you should read some documentation ... yes - you can use both - if you really want to keep "horrible OS" with it's ton of programs. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sleep: a sign a caffeine deprivation ... http://www.anchorage.net/~un_x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 22:37:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA13242 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 22:37:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iceberg.anchorage.net. (root@iceberg.anchorage.net [207.14.72.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA13237 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 22:37:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aak.anchorage.net (ai-132 [207.14.72.132]) by iceberg.anchorage.net. (8.6.11/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA28568 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 20:34:43 -0800 Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 21:27:23 -0800 (AKDT) From: Steve Howe X-Sender: abc@aak.anchorage.net To: freebsd-questions Subject: getopts Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk how does one get "filename" in getopts? since no positional parameters ($1-$9) are set, when option parsing is done, where is the "filename"? i've searched the web everywhere, checked all the docs and maillists, but don't see any good info on getopts. # script -abc filename ---------------------- while getopts abc i; do deal with options -abc done now where is my filename? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 22:44:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA13577 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 22:44:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cedb.dpcsys.com (cedb.DPCSYS.com [209.25.4.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA13569 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 22:44:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dan@localhost) by cedb.dpcsys.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id FAA12543; Sun, 11 May 1997 05:44:21 GMT Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 22:44:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Busarow To: Brian Howell cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Config fails during kernel build In-Reply-To: <3374D349.41C67EA6@genwell.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 10 May 1997, Brian Howell wrote: > And that's all she wrote. I know it's probably something > really _stupid_ like I'm running config in the wrong directory--I'm > in the directory that contains my edited kernel file: > > /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/ Your first step should be running config against GENERIC. Does that work? If it does, then you have a typo somewhere in your new config. Start over. If config GENERIC fails then something is wrong with your installation. Dan -- Dan Busarow 714 443 4172 DPC Systems / Beach.Net dan@dpcsys.com Dana Point, California 83 09 EF 59 E0 11 89 B4 8D 09 DB FD E1 DD 0C 82 From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 23:40:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA15068 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:40:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (root@andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA15063 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:40:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.Stanford.EDU [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA11393 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:40:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 23:40:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Kernel Compile on 2.2 failed Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I upgraded from 2.1.6 to 2.2 with the cdrom and the kernel compile failed with param.c:82: `TIMEZONE` undeclared here (not in a function) param.c:82: initalizer element for `tz.tz.minuteswest' is not constant and a few more re: param.c Any suggestions about what might be wrong would be appreciated, along with a cc: as I am not subscribed to this list right now. Annelise From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 23:51:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA15349 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (gatekeeper.barcode.co.il [192.116.93.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA15340 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:51:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (8.8.5/8.6.12) id JAA22218; Sun, 11 May 1997 09:48:19 +0300 (IDT) X-Authentication-Warning: gatekeeper.barcode.co.il: smap set sender to using -f Received: from localhost.barcode.co.il(127.0.0.1) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il via smap (V1.3) id sma022204; Sun May 11 09:47:52 1997 Message-ID: <33756BEE.7537@barcode.co.il> Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 09:49:18 +0300 From: Nadav Eiron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Johnson CC: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to re-install bootmanager? References: <199705092041.NAA00328@rast.cisco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Richard Johnson wrote: > > I installed freebsd while keeping a DOS partition as partition#0 on my drive. > Initially I installed bootmanager and it allowed me to boot whichever I wanted > just perfectly. However, now I have installed Windoze95 into partition#0 > and it overwrote the bootmanager code. How do I go about re-installing > bootmanager? > > /raj Boot a DOS disketter (Win95 DOS mode might not do), and run bootinst.exe from the /tools directory on the CD/ftp site. From owner-freebsd-questions Sat May 10 23:51:56 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA15382 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:51:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (gatekeeper.barcode.co.il [192.116.93.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA15374 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:51:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il (8.8.5/8.6.12) id JAA22224; Sun, 11 May 1997 09:48:49 +0300 (IDT) X-Authentication-Warning: gatekeeper.barcode.co.il: smap set sender to using -f Received: from localhost.barcode.co.il(127.0.0.1) by gatekeeper.barcode.co.il via smap (V1.3) id sma022222; Sun May 11 09:48:44 1997 Message-ID: <33756C24.6BAC@barcode.co.il> Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 09:50:12 +0300 From: Nadav Eiron X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Francisco Reyes CC: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: How to re-install or rebuild user ppp? References: <199705091500.LAA07874@federation.addy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Francisco Reyes wrote: > > My user ppp gives me an error when I try to run it. I tried copying the > ppp file from the live CDrom but that did not work. > > Is there a way to re-install ppp and all the files it depends on or to > re-build them from sources? Yes there is, but that's probably not the problem. More likely it's something you've misconfigured. What is the error you're getting? Nadav