From owner-freebsd-www Sun Feb 2 19:31:23 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA04859 for www-outgoing; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 19:31:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from server3.syd.mail.ozemail.net (server3.syd.mail.ozemail.net [203.108.7.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA04854 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 19:31:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from oznet07.ozemail.com.au (oznet07.ozemail.com.au [203.2.192.122]) by server3.syd.mail.ozemail.net (8.8.4/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA16862 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 14:31:17 +1100 (EST) Received: from HANNIBAL (dialup9-15.camtech.net.au [203.28.1.79]) by oznet07.ozemail.com.au (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA03053 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 14:28:35 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <32F65F8A.26B2@ozemail.com.au> Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 13:58:34 -0800 From: Richard Wiwatowski Reply-To: rjwiwat@adelaide.on.net Organization: Beta-Logic X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: newsflash.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear Sir/Madam, The next time you update this page you may wish to consider correcting some repetition in the introduction: "FreeBSD is a is a ..." Also, it may be worthwhile considering moving some of the historical information to an attached page -- stuff dating back to 1995 and 1994 hardly seems worthy of space on the "newsflash" page. Regards, Richard From owner-freebsd-www Sun Feb 2 19:42:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA05354 for www-outgoing; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 19:42:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from tracer.eos.ncsu.edu (tracer.eos.ncsu.edu [152.1.68.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA05349 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 19:42:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nsj@localhost) by tracer.eos.ncsu.edu (8.8.4/EC19Dec96) id WAA07702; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 22:41:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199702030341.WAA07702@tracer.eos.ncsu.edu> Subject: Re: newsflash.html To: rjwiwat@adelaide.on.net Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 22:41:48 -0500 (EST) Cc: www@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <32F65F8A.26B2@ozemail.com.au> from "Richard Wiwatowski" at Feb 3, 97 01:58:34 pm Reply-To: nate@ncsu.edu From: nate@ncsu.edu (Nate Johnson) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24/POP] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk %The next time you update this page you may wish to consider correcting %some repetition in the introduction: "FreeBSD is a is a ..." *blush* Fixed. %Also, it may be worthwhile considering moving some of the historical %information to an attached page -- stuff dating back to 1995 and 1994 %hardly seems worthy of space on the "newsflash" page. Agreed; this was a change that I had needed to make for a while now. I removed everything pre-dating November, 1996. Thanks for your comments! Cheers, nsj -- nate@ncsu.edu / nsj@eos.ncsu.edu / nsj@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-www Sun Feb 2 21:42:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA09950 for www-outgoing; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 21:42:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from clytemnestra.cs.colorado.edu (clytemnestra.cs.colorado.edu [128.138.192.203]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA09945 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 21:42:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from clytemnestra.cs.colorado.edu (millert@localhost.cs.colorado.edu [127.0.0.1]) by clytemnestra.cs.colorado.edu (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA21132 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 00:41:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199702030541.AAA21132@clytemnestra.cs.colorado.edu> To: www@freebsd.org Subject: filtering of packets from openbsd.org and theos.com Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 22:41:55 -0700 From: "Todd C. Miller" Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This seems quite silly and certainly doesn't help engender cooperation between BSD projects (of which I'd love to see more). Would it be possible to stop this practice? It doesn't really buy you any security (would someone *really* try to crack into a machine from an ip space for which he/she is registered in the NIC?) These kinds of things just create bad blood and dont't lead to anything other than stupid flame wars. Please consider removing the filter rules in question. Thank you, todd --- Todd C. Miller Sysadmin--University of Colorado Todd.Miller@cs.colorado.edu From owner-freebsd-www Mon Feb 3 00:31:54 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA15384 for www-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 00:31:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from waldorf.appli.se (waldorf.appli.se [194.198.196.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA15370 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 00:31:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from nettan.appli.se (root@nettan.appli.se [194.198.196.5]) by waldorf.appli.se (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA26502; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 09:31:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (niklas@localhost) by nettan.appli.se (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA08990; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 09:31:26 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: nettan.appli.se: niklas owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 09:31:26 +0100 (MET) From: Niklas Hallqvist To: www@freebsd.org Subject: filtering? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi! I was setting up a webpage at www.openbsd.org with several links to your web-structure, http://www.openbsd.org/ports.html, explaining how to go on about using your fine ports collection in OpenBSD. Fairly quick I got to know that you filter (at least) web-traffic from openbsd.org. Clearly, this is something you have your freedom to do, but I question it highly. I thought we were cooperating, but this is a symbolic measure just stirring up ill will. There is no gain in keeping such a filter up (or reject route or whatever you use) and especially, no security gain. It would be the end for a serious security-focused OS like OpenBSD to host cracker attacks against any other organization. So such an argument falls due to internal incosistencies in my eyes. If you intend to keep the filtering, please tell us why you feel it necessary, and what can be done about it. Purely from an idealist's point of view (and I am an idealist in many ways) this isn't something a BSD derived system should tell the Internet community is a way to solve a conflict (if there is one, is there?). I don't see a reason why FreeBSD should be scared of OpenBSD, clearly Linux is a bigger threat for you ;-) With hopes of a change soon, Niklas Niklas Hallqvist Phone: +46-(0)31-40 75 00 Home: +46-(0)31-41 93 95 Applitron Datasystem Fax: +46-(0)31-83 39 50 Home: +46-(0)31-41 93 96 Molndalsvagen 95 Email: niklas@appli.se GSM: +46-(0)70-714 10 35 S-412 63 GOTEBORG WWW: Here Sweden IRC: niklas (#NetBSD) From owner-freebsd-www Mon Feb 3 05:40:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA28739 for www-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 05:40:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA28734 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 05:40:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id FAA24976; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 05:40:13 -0800 (PST) To: "Todd C. Miller" cc: www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: filtering of packets from openbsd.org and theos.com In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 02 Feb 1997 22:41:55 MST." <199702030541.AAA21132@clytemnestra.cs.colorado.edu> Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 05:40:13 -0800 Message-ID: <24972.854977213@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > This seems quite silly and certainly doesn't help engender Please, we've been all over this already many times in recent memory, and it's a common misunderstanding that the filter rules are there to buy security - they're not. They're there to force the use of locations other than openbsd.org for any contemplated attack on freebsd.org machines in the future, the theory being that if a relay needs to be used then it expands the potential scope of the conflict beyond what most [un]reasonable people would be willing to contemplate and hopefully serves as a functional deterrant. Jordan From owner-freebsd-www Mon Feb 3 05:55:47 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA29295 for www-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 05:55:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA29290 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 05:55:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id FAA25089; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 05:55:30 -0800 (PST) To: Niklas Hallqvist cc: www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: filtering? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 03 Feb 1997 09:31:26 +0100." Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 05:55:30 -0800 Message-ID: <25086.854978130@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > reject route or whatever you use) and especially, no security gain. It > would be the end for a serious security-focused OS like OpenBSD to host > cracker attacks against any other organization. So such an argument falls But it does, and that's exactly the problem. Jordan From owner-freebsd-www Mon Feb 3 06:14:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA00109 for www-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 06:14:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from waldorf.appli.se (waldorf.appli.se [194.198.196.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA00100 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 06:14:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from nettan.appli.se (root@nettan.appli.se [194.198.196.5]) by waldorf.appli.se (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id PAA27111; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:13:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (niklas@localhost) by nettan.appli.se (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA12101; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:13:28 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: nettan.appli.se: niklas owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:13:24 +0100 (MET) From: Niklas Hallqvist To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Niklas Hallqvist , www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: filtering? In-Reply-To: <25086.854978130@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 3 Feb 1997, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > reject route or whatever you use) and especially, no security gain. It > > would be the end for a serious security-focused OS like OpenBSD to host > > cracker attacks against any other organization. So such an argument falls > > But it does, and that's exactly the problem. I take it you have evidence for this as it is a rather serious argument. If you have so then I think you should let us know of the facts as it is the only way we can resolve a very serious problem at our end. I'd certainly tell you if I knew someone used your machines as a host for attacks. I'd do that even if I had differences with you (which I don't), because that's part of the survival instinct of our net. We're all in this together, you know. Niklas From owner-freebsd-www Mon Feb 3 06:29:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id GAA00568 for www-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 06:29:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA00562 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 06:29:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA21302 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 09:29:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 09:29:40 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: www@freebsd.org Subject: query-pr-summary.cgi Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk query-pr-summary.cgi is broken. -john From owner-freebsd-www Mon Feb 3 08:17:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA05424 for www-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 08:17:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.gte.net (mail1.gte.net [206.124.65.236]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA05418 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 08:17:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from default (Cust80.Max14.Orlando.FL.MS.UU.NET [153.34.162.80]) by smtp.gte.net (SMI-8.6/) via SMTP id KAA21906 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:17:38 -0600 Message-ID: <32F6399F.71EB@gte.net> Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 11:16:47 -0800 From: SCOTT THOMAS Reply-To: tomcat4@gte.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: free BSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Scott Thomas 5220 12th ave dr e bradenton fl 34209 please send a cd for download. thank you Scott From owner-freebsd-www Mon Feb 3 10:56:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA13599 for www-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:56:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from m1.cs.man.ac.uk (0@m1.cs.man.ac.uk [130.88.13.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA13593 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:56:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from amu7.cs.man.ac.uk by m1.cs.man.ac.uk (4.1/SMI-4.1:AL6) id AA21838; Mon, 3 Feb 97 18:55:48 GMT Date: Mon, 3 Feb 97 18:55:55 GMT From: David Alan Gilbert Message-Id: <9702031855.AA25637@amu7.cs.man.ac.uk> To: webmaster@freebsd.org Subject: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr-summary.cgi Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The address in the subject line just gave: Server Error The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. Please contact the server administrator, webmaster@freebsd.org and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error. Dave From owner-freebsd-www Mon Feb 3 11:55:52 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA16665 for www-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 11:55:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE [160.45.24.21]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA16660 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 11:55:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from mail.hanse.de (193.174.9.9) with smtp id ; Mon, 3 Feb 97 20:54 MET Received: from wavehh.UUCP by mail.hanse.de with UUCP for gilbertd@cs.man.ac.uk id ; Mon, 3 Feb 97 20:54 MET Received: by wavehh.hanse.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04226; Mon, 3 Feb 97 20:22:44 +0100 From: cracauer@wavehh.hanse.de (Martin Cracauer) Message-Id: <9702031922.AA04226@wavehh.hanse.de> Subject: Re: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr-summary.cgi To: gilbertd@cs.man.ac.uk (David Alan Gilbert) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 20:22:44 +0100 (MET) Cc: webmaster@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9702031855.AA25637@amu7.cs.man.ac.uk> from "David Alan Gilbert" at Feb 3, 97 06:55:55 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > The address in the subject line just gave: > > Server Error I will look into it. Thanks for the report. Martin -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Martin Cracauer http://cracauer.cons.org Fax +49 40 522 85 36 From owner-freebsd-www Mon Feb 3 12:05:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA16978 for www-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 12:05:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA16973 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 12:05:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA26045; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 12:05:05 -0800 (PST) To: tomcat4@gte.net cc: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: free BSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 03 Feb 1997 11:16:47 PST." <32F6399F.71EB@gte.net> Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 12:05:04 -0800 Message-ID: <26040.855000304@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk You need to go to http://www.cdrom.com for FreeBSD CDs. Thanks! > Scott Thomas > 5220 12th ave dr e > bradenton fl 34209 > > please send a cd for download. > > thank you Scott From owner-freebsd-www Mon Feb 3 22:42:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA21961 for www-outgoing; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 22:42:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.ucdavis.edu [128.120.37.176]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA21953 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 22:42:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (reqa-002.ucdavis.edu [128.120.251.2]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.8.4/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA12028 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 22:42:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <32F6DA43.41C67EA6@nuxi.ucdavis.edu> Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 22:42:27 -0800 From: "David E. O'Brien" Organization: NUXI, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-970202-GAMMA0 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: www@freebsd.org Subject: Query FreeBSD problem reports Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Per: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr-summary.cgi?query I really like the new look of the PR querry page! :-) -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) From owner-freebsd-www Tue Feb 4 01:55:03 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA06264 for www-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 01:55:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from INET-01-IMC.microsoft.com (mail1.microsoft.com [131.107.3.41]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA06259 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 01:55:00 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199702040955.BAA06259@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: by mail1.microsoft.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1421.13) id <01BC123C.A6862C40@mail1.microsoft.com>; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 01:42:16 -0800 From: Cyril Belikoff To: "'www@freebsd.org'" Subject: Microsoft Site Builder Conference Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 00:07:14 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1421.13) Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Please forward this to the appropriate people who are involved with the development of your Web site. Microsoft Site Builder Seminar You are invited to attend our FREE one day Microsoft Site Builder Seminar which will be held in Cape Town at the MonteCarlo Theatre on Monday 17th and Tuesday 18th of February 1997, in Durban at the Royal Hotel on Friday 21st of February and in Johannesburg at Microsoft South Africa in Sandton on 26th, 27th and 28th February 1997. If you're a developer or designer who builds Internet and intranet applications based on HTML, ActiveX, Java or scripting technologies, you can't afford to miss this full day of intensive training. You'll learn how to leverage the latest Microsoft technologies, work more productively and build more compelling Internet and intranet applications. This important event provides in-depth coverage of the following topics: Internet Services - collaboration, communities and commerce. Activating the Internet - the new generation of websites. Creating ActiveX controls & components - using Visual Basic 5.0 and Visual J++ Active Server - the foundation for tomorrow's websites. Client and Server-side Scripting. Microsoft Visual InterDev - the easiest way to design and build fully functional websites. Agenda 8.00 am - 8.30am Registration 8.30 am Activating the Internet: A new generation of web sites. 9.30 am Internet Explorer 4.0 - technical drilldown 10.30 am Coffee and Break 10.50 am Active Server: The foundation for the next generation site 12.00 am Microsoft Netshow and Collaboration Tools 1.00 PM Lunch 2.00 PM Creating ActiveX controls and components with Visual Basic 5.0 and Visual J++ 3.00 PM Intranet Applications with Microsoft FrontPage 97 and Microsoft Office 97 3.50 PM Coffee and Break 4.20 PM Database Options for the Web and Microsoft Visual InterDev 5.50pmConclusion Who should attend? Internet Content providers and HTML authors Corporate IT staff involved with building Intranet Applications ActiveX Controls and Component Developers High-level Web Server ISVs making use of extensive scripting and pre-built components. Solution Providers who focus Web sites development Internet Service Providers who develop content for small and large businesses To reserve your place at the Microsoft Sitebuilder Seminar, please contact the Microsoft Events Centre. Please state the event name, date, time and city of the event you wish to attend. Telephone: (011) 445-0000 Web site: http://www.microsoft.com/southafrica/sitebuilder/ Email: saevents@microsoft.com NOTE: Please do not reply directly back to me. Register via the Microsoft Events Centre. Regards Cyril Belikoff Microsoft South Africa 929 From owner-freebsd-www Tue Feb 4 07:26:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA21033 for www-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 07:26:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21020 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 07:25:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id HAA16630; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 07:25:27 -0800 (PST) To: Cyril Belikoff cc: "'www@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Microsoft Site Builder Conference In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 04 Feb 1997 00:07:14 PST." <199702040955.BAA06259@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 07:25:27 -0800 Message-ID: <16626.855069927@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Please forward this to the appropriate people who are involved with the > development of your Web site. Uh, no, I'm afraid that this is inappropriately addressed to us. We would also appreciate it if you did not address any similar correspondence to us in the future. Thank you. Jordan From owner-freebsd-www Tue Feb 4 09:40:04 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA00722 for www-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:40:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from vector.jhs.no_domain (slip139-92-4-140.mu.de.ibm.net [139.92.4.140]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA00674 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:39:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jhs@localhost) by vector.jhs.no_domain (8.7.5/8.6.9) id LAA00902; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:05:34 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:05:34 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199702041005.LAA00902@vector.jhs.no_domain> To: webmaster@freebsd.org Subject: http://www.freebsd.org From: "Julian H. Stacey" Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" X-Organization: Vector Systems Ltd. X-Mailer: EXMH 1.6.7, PGP available X-Address: Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany X-Tel: +49.89.268616 X-Fax: +49.89.2608126 X-ISDN: +49.89.26023276 X-Web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi webmaster@freebsd.org, is http://freebsd.org/ a long term usable address ? or just something I tried that happened to work yesterday ? I'd like to quote a shorter address to people, both for the official pages, & my personal http://freebsd.org/~jhs/ area, but I don't want to if it's likely to change or annoy someone ? I notice on TV, CNN news are also going shorter with http://ccn.com etc ... I guess the obvious problem point might be if / when you move the http: server on a different machine than the one running gettys, but I guess that's not about to happen anytime soon, & even then certainly under cern server I know its possible to do href forwarding to another host (Yup I know you run apache on freeefall but I havent got round to config'ing my apache to learn it yet, I just remember its possible with cern) Comments ? Thanks :-) Julian --- Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ `Music-On-Hold' phones are a disruption. From owner-freebsd-www Tue Feb 4 11:05:46 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA05595 for www-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:05:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05540; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:05:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA27278; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:05:00 -0800 (PST) To: "Julian H. Stacey" cc: webmaster@freebsd.org Subject: Re: http://www.freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 04 Feb 1997 11:05:34 +0100." <199702041005.LAA00902@vector.jhs.no_domain> Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 11:05:00 -0800 Message-ID: <27274.855083100@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Hi webmaster@freebsd.org, > is http://freebsd.org/ > a long term usable address ? > or just something I tried that happened to work yesterday ? It's just the luck of the A record. > I'd like to quote a shorter address to people, both for the official pages, > & my personal http://freebsd.org/~jhs/ area, > > but I don't want to if it's likely to change or annoy someone ? It's bad, please don't do it. If we decide to move the web pages to a different host but leave services like `finger @freebsd.org' to work as expected, we will expect people to be following the www.freebsd.org pointer and your stuff will break. And yes, this could happen pretty much anytime. :-) Jordan From owner-freebsd-www Tue Feb 4 17:04:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA03756 for www-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 17:04:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.NetBSD.ORG (homeworld.cygnus.com [205.180.83.70]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA03726 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 17:03:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199702050103.RAA03726@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: (qmail-queue invoked from smtpd); 5 Feb 1997 00:55:00 -0000 Received: from localhost.cygnus.com (127.0.0.1) by localhost.cygnus.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 1997 00:55:00 -0000 To: www@freebsd.org Subject: Related Operating System Projects Cc: core@NetBSD.ORG Reply-To: Jason Thorpe From: Jason Thorpe Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 16:54:45 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello, At the bottom of the page: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html is the following text: Related Operating System Projects - NetBSD is a very close relative of FreeBSD. - OpenBSD is derived from NetBSD and supported by a group of former NetBSD developers. - Linux is another free Unix-like system. - Lites is a 4.4 BSD Lite based server and emulation library that provides free unix unctionality to a Mach based system. - The GNU HURD project is another effort to develop a free Unix-like operating system. I must object to the first two bullets, but can suggest alternatives that contain much more accurate information: - NetBSD is another free 4.4BSD-Lite based operating system which runs on several different architectures, including the Alpha, SPARC, m68k, ARM, and others. I don't have a suggestion for the second bullet. However, I object to any reference to NetBSD in an OpenBSD bullet. They are two completely separate projects, which are in no way related. Relating the two only leads to confusion. Thanks very much for your attention in this matter. Jason R. Thorpe NetBSD Core Group From owner-freebsd-www Tue Feb 4 17:11:49 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA05137 for www-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 17:11:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA05126 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 17:11:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA29527; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 17:11:37 -0800 (PST) To: Jason Thorpe cc: www@freebsd.org, core@NetBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Related Operating System Projects In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 04 Feb 1997 16:54:45 PST." <199702050103.RAA03726@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 17:11:36 -0800 Message-ID: <29523.855105096@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I must object to the first two bullets, but can suggest alternatives > that contain much more accurate information: how's this:
  • NetBSD - is a very close relative of FreeBSD.
    • + is another free 4.4BSD-Lite based operating system which + runs on several different architectures.
  • OpenBSD - is derived from NetBSD and supported by a group of former - NetBSD developers.
    • + is another group based on NetBSD's code base and supported + by a different group of developers. ? Just say the word and I'll commit it. > I don't have a suggestion for the second bullet. However, I object > to any reference to NetBSD in an OpenBSD bullet. They are two > completely separate projects, which are in no way related. Relating > the two only leads to confusion. Well, I do beg to differ slightly - it is strongly *based* on NetBSD, and you see references to NetBSD this or that all over the place. The projects may not be related, but it's still valuable information for the user to be told that it's not something truly unique and different, it started as a NetBSD offshoot and is still a very very similar product in many respects, no? Jordan From owner-freebsd-www Tue Feb 4 19:30:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA25151 for www-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 19:30:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from hobbes.cuckoo.com (hobbes.cuckoo.com [206.109.5.43]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA25138 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 19:30:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dbaker@localhost) by hobbes.cuckoo.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) id VAA05205 for webmaster@freebsd.org; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 21:30:23 -0600 (CST) From: Daniel Baker Message-Id: <199702050330.VAA05205@hobbes.cuckoo.com> Subject: New FreeBSD Mirror To: webmaster@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 21:30:22 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a new FreeBSD WWW Mirror: http://www.cuckoo.com/freebsd Do you want to do a Virtual URL. I have some spare IPs that I could alias to this machine if you let me link it to wwwx.freebsd.org Thanks Daniel -- Daniel Baker (dbaker@cuckoo.com) Chief Technical Officer -- CuckooNet! (http://www.cuckoo.com) From owner-freebsd-www Tue Feb 4 20:47:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA00255 for www-outgoing; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 20:47:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.NetBSD.ORG (homeworld.cygnus.com [205.180.83.70]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA00250 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 20:46:56 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199702050446.UAA00250@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: (qmail-queue invoked from smtpd); 5 Feb 1997 04:50:42 -0000 Received: from localhost.cygnus.com (127.0.0.1) by localhost.cygnus.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 1997 04:50:42 -0000 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: www@freebsd.org, core@NetBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Related Operating System Projects Reply-To: Jason Thorpe From: Jason Thorpe Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 20:50:42 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 04 Feb 1997 17:11:36 -0800 "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: >
  • href="http://www.netbsd.org/">NetBSD > - is a very close relative of FreeBSD.
    • > + is another free 4.4BSD-Lite based operating system which > + runs on several different architectures. > >
  • href="http://www.openbsd.org/">OpenBSD > - is derived from NetBSD and supported by a group of former > - NetBSD developers.
    • > + is another group based on NetBSD's code base and supported > + by a different group of developers. > > ? > > Just say the word and I'll commit it. Those are better, but I'd still prefer to not mention NetBSD in the OpenBSD bullet. See below... > Well, I do beg to differ slightly - it is strongly *based* on NetBSD, > and you see references to NetBSD this or that all over the place. The > projects may not be related, but it's still valuable information for > the user to be told that it's not something truly unique and > different, it started as a NetBSD offshoot and is still a very very > similar product in many respects, no? There is too much confusion surrounding the NetBSD/OpenBSD issue. While it is true that the OpenBSD project is originally based on a pre-1.2 NetBSD source tree, they have diverged since then, and have not tracked NetBSD as fast as it changes. Jason R. Thorpe NetBSD Core Group From owner-freebsd-www Wed Feb 5 08:49:11 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA00995 for www-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 08:49:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from melange.gnu.ai.mit.edu (melange.gnu.ai.mit.edu [128.52.46.66]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA00954 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 08:49:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by melange.gnu.ai.mit.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12GNU) id LAA15275; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 11:48:50 -0500 (EST) To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Jason Thorpe , www@freebsd.org, core@NetBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Related Operating System Projects References: <29523.855105096@time.cdrom.com> From: mycroft@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Charles M. Hannum) Date: 05 Feb 1997 11:48:49 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Jordan K. Hubbard"'s message of Tue, 04 Feb 1997 17:11:36 -0800 Message-ID: Lines: 14 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: > > Well, I do beg to differ slightly - it is strongly *based* on NetBSD, It branched off of NetBSD. Development on both systems has diverged significantly, to the point where saying it's `based on NetBSD' is, quite frankly, more of a slimy marketing trick than a reality. By the same token, you could say that FreeBSD is `based on NetBSD', since you started with NetBSD 0.8. But I somehow doubt that's relevant any more, or that you'd like to state it publically. From owner-freebsd-www Wed Feb 5 09:16:30 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA01771 for www-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 09:16:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01696 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 09:16:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA19800; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 09:16:06 -0800 (PST) To: mycroft@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Charles M. Hannum) cc: Jason Thorpe , www@freebsd.org, core@NetBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Related Operating System Projects In-reply-to: Your message of "05 Feb 1997 11:48:49 EST." Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 09:16:05 -0800 Message-ID: <19796.855162965@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > It branched off of NetBSD. Development on both systems has diverged > significantly, to the point where saying it's `based on NetBSD' is, > quite frankly, more of a slimy marketing trick than a reality. If you think that the current wording is a slimey marketing trick rather than some guy searching for the right descriptive words at 3am then we still have a ways to go in the mutual understanding department, but let's let it pass. I'll amend the wording as per Jason's last request and commit the changes. Sorry, but I've been a little busy these last couple of days, as I'm sure you're all more than well aware, and it got pushed on the stack. Jordan From owner-freebsd-www Wed Feb 5 09:39:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA06269 for www-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 09:39:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from sys1.nyc.deshaw.com (sys1.nyc.deshaw.com [149.77.15.20]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06195 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 09:39:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from christos@localhost) by sys1.nyc.deshaw.com (8.6.13/8.7.Alpha.4/1.34.kim) id MAA28954; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 12:39:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199702051739.MAA28954@sys1.nyc.deshaw.com> From: christos@deshaw.com (Christos Zoulas) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 12:39:26 -0500 In-Reply-To: <19796.855162965@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" (Feb 5, 9:16am) Organization: D. E. Shaw & Co. X-Address: Tower 45, 120 West 45th St., 39th Floor, New York, N.Y. 10036 X-Phone: (212) 478 0000 X-Fax: (212) 478 0101 X-Face: %jL.CVv-*"-d?@xSu)#i[QzHK3,c?Qx,G.u#bZ;O'qSg"$LmB})v;&A"6r&;#2NRahSRwYl D9Y8"L97FX^O7oBy?'hA6-1AQA`L(c[yqZySfl/t&4;gHT1|X\ElkgxMVNUjM /A)InAN\hPuhymGG{1&&ay2c"[4z_*Gb?{gbnv5+?terjcRFl`(^3vO-^Mw%\Cfk`p{@!a3&/NR#*p fH0rostE1 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 beta(2)+dynamic 2/29/96) To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , mycroft@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Charles M. Hannum) Subject: Re: Related Operating System Projects Cc: Jason Thorpe , www@freebsd.org, core@NetBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Feb 5, 9:16am, jkh@time.cdrom.com ("Jordan K. Hubbard") wrote: -- Subject: Re: Related Operating System Projects | > It branched off of NetBSD. Development on both systems has diverged | > significantly, to the point where saying it's `based on NetBSD' is, | > quite frankly, more of a slimy marketing trick than a reality. | | If you think that the current wording is a slimey marketing trick | rather than some guy searching for the right descriptive words at | 3am then we still have a ways to go in the mutual understanding | department, but let's let it pass. I don't think that the slimey marketing trick was aimed at you Jordan... christos From owner-freebsd-www Wed Feb 5 09:49:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA20325 for www-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 09:49:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.NetBSD.ORG (homeworld.cygnus.com [205.180.83.70]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA20269 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 09:49:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199702051749.JAA20269@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: (qmail-queue invoked from smtpd); 5 Feb 1997 17:53:01 -0000 Received: from localhost.cygnus.com (127.0.0.1) by localhost.cygnus.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 1997 17:53:01 -0000 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: mycroft@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Charles M. Hannum), www@freebsd.org, core@NetBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Related Operating System Projects Reply-To: Jason Thorpe From: Jason Thorpe Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 09:52:56 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 05 Feb 1997 09:16:05 -0800 "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > If you think that the current wording is a slimey marketing trick > rather than some guy searching for the right descriptive words at > 3am then we still have a ways to go in the mutual understanding > department, but let's let it pass. The impleication is _not_ that it is a slimy marketing trick on your part... but, rather, on OpenBSD's. > I'll amend the wording as per Jason's last request and commit the > changes. Sorry, but I've been a little busy these last couple of > days, as I'm sure you're all more than well aware, and it got pushed > on the stack. Understandable. Jason R. Thorpe NetBSD Core Group From owner-freebsd-www Wed Feb 5 12:06:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA07964 for www-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 12:06:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from service1.cc.uky.edu (service1.cc.uky.edu [128.163.18.80]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07916 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 12:06:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from ncc.uky.edu.uhs.uky.edu (sthe31.uhs.uky.edu [128.163.76.42]) by service1.cc.uky.edu (8.8.0/UKY-POP-1.3) with SMTP id PAA27136 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:05:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32F90F43.3344@pop.uky.edu> Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 15:06:28 -0800 From: "David C. Hart" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Not working Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hello all, I just wanted to drop a quick note to say I had problems with your page. So, I FTP'ed over to your site to take a look around and it looked like directory links for 2.1.6 and associated files are gone. Thanks -- __________________________________________________ David C. Hart Systems Administrator University of Kentucky University Health Service. E-mail: dhart@pop.uky.edu, NeXT mail: dhart@f1.facts.uky.edu Pager E-mail: 6063307601.pager@usamobile.com Phone: 606-323-5823 X 272 Pager: 606-330-6701 __________________________________________________ From owner-freebsd-www Wed Feb 5 12:58:18 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA11503 for www-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 12:58:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA11490 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 12:58:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA03181; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:57:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:57:13 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: "Charles M. Hannum" cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Jason Thorpe , www@freebsd.org, core@netbsd.org Subject: Re: Related Operating System Projects In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On 5 Feb 1997, Charles M. Hannum wrote: > "Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: > > Well, I do beg to differ slightly - it is strongly *based* on NetBSD, > > It branched off of NetBSD. Development on both systems has diverged > significantly, to the point where saying it's `based on NetBSD' is, > quite frankly, more of a slimy marketing trick than a reality. I'd just like to point out that the sentence in question was written at the branch point when the differences between the two were trivial. I, as the author of the sentence, deny any slimy intent. However, the half-life of Truth on the Internet is pretty darn short and if you think the statement reflects badly on NetBSD, I have no objections to changing it. Is it safe/acceptable to say that (Free|Net|Open)BSD are all 4.4BSD derived and leave it at that? The respective web sites can provide their own accounts of the "Truth". -john From owner-freebsd-www Wed Feb 5 13:29:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA13114 for www-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 13:29:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from vector.jhs.no_domain (slip139-92-4-67.mu.de.ibm.net [139.92.4.67]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13101; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 13:28:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from vector.jhs.no_domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vector.jhs.no_domain (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA13413; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 22:27:43 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199702052127.WAA13413@vector.jhs.no_domain> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: webmaster@freebsd.org Subject: Re: http://www.freebsd.org From: "Julian H. Stacey" Reply-To: "Julian H. Stacey" X-Organization: Vector Systems Ltd. X-Mailer: EXMH 1.6.7, PGP available X-Address: Holz Strasse 27d, 80469 Munich, Germany X-Tel: +49.89.268616 X-Fax: +49.89.2608126 X-ISDN: +49.89.26023276 X-Web: http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 04 Feb 1997 11:05:00 PST." <27274.855083100@time.cdrom.com> Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 22:27:42 +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Reference: > From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" > Subject: Re: http://www.freebsd.org > Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 11:05:00 -0800 > Message-id: <27274.855083100@time.cdrom.com> > > > Hi webmaster@freebsd.org, > > is http://freebsd.org/ > > a long term usable address ? > > or just something I tried that happened to work yesterday ? > > It's just the luck of the A record. > > > I'd like to quote a shorter address to people, both for the official pages, > > & my personal http://freebsd.org/~jhs/ area, > > > > but I don't want to if it's likely to change or annoy someone ? > > It's bad, please don't do it. If we decide to move the web pages to a > different host but leave services like `finger @freebsd.org' to work > as expected, we will expect people to be following the www.freebsd.org > pointer and your stuff will break. > > And yes, this could happen pretty much anytime. :-) > > Jordan OK, Thanks Jordan, I won't do it then :-) BTW I resisted asking "What's an A record then?" & looked up my nutshell book, only to find "A record" is indexed on page 185, & my last book mark is on page 159 ... so don't tell me ... I've got tonights bedtime reading :-) Thanks ! > Julian -- Julian H. Stacey jhs@freebsd.org http://www.freebsd.org/~jhs/ From owner-freebsd-www Wed Feb 5 14:32:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA17714 for www-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 14:32:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.NetBSD.ORG (homeworld.cygnus.com [205.180.83.70]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA17679 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 14:31:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199702052231.OAA17679@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: (qmail-queue invoked from smtpd); 5 Feb 1997 22:34:37 -0000 Received: from localhost.cygnus.com (127.0.0.1) by localhost.cygnus.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 1997 22:34:37 -0000 To: John Fieber Cc: "Charles M. Hannum" , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , www@freebsd.org, core@NetBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Related Operating System Projects Reply-To: Jason Thorpe From: Jason Thorpe Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 14:34:36 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:57:13 -0500 (EST) John Fieber wrote: > I'd just like to point out that the sentence in question was > written at the branch point when the differences between the two > were trivial. I, as the author of the sentence, deny any slimy > intent. ...as stated before, the insinuation is _not_ that it's a slimy trick on FreeBSD's part at all. It is, however, our feeling that it's a slimy trick on OpenBSD's part. > However, the half-life of Truth on the Internet is pretty darn > short and if you think the statement reflects badly on NetBSD, I > have no objections to changing it. Is it safe/acceptable to say > that (Free|Net|Open)BSD are all 4.4BSD derived and leave it at > that? The respective web sites can provide their own accounts of > the "Truth". That's fine with me; as long as NetBSD and OpenBSD are not associated in any way. Jason R. Thorpe NetBSD Core Group From owner-freebsd-www Wed Feb 5 15:14:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA20953 for www-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:14:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA20928 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:14:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from hemi.com (hemi.com [204.132.158.10]) by who.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id OAA17292 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 14:48:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mbarkah@localhost) by hemi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id PAA24274; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:47:37 -0700 (MST) From: Ade Barkah Message-Id: <199702052247.PAA24274@hemi.com> Subject: Re: Not working To: dhart@service1.uky.edu (David C. Hart) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:47:37 -0700 (MST) Cc: www@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <32F90F43.3344@pop.uky.edu> from "David C. Hart" at "Feb 5, 97 03:06:28 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I just wanted to drop a quick note to say I had problems with your page. > So, I FTP'ed over to your site to take a look around and it looked like > directory links for 2.1.6 and associated files are gone. David, The 2.1.6 directory is no longer accessible due to security concerns. Here's text from the new README file: | There has been a serious security hole found in FreeBSD 2.1.6 that | is being fixed right now. It will be replaced with a new release, | FreeBSD 2.1.7, which will contain fixes for this and other bugs. The | new release should be available in a day or two; sorry for any | inconvenience. | | The FreeBSD Project We apologize for the temporary inconvenience. Regards, -Ade Barkah ------------------------------------------------------------------- Inet: mbarkah@hemi.com - HEMISPHERE ONLINE - ------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-www Wed Feb 5 15:28:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA22622 for www-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:28:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA22613 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:28:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA03734; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 18:27:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 18:27:51 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Jason Thorpe cc: "Charles M. Hannum" , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , www@freebsd.org, core@NetBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Related Operating System Projects In-Reply-To: <199702052230.RAA03818@roatan.ucs.indiana.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, Jason Thorpe wrote: > That's fine with me; as long as NetBSD and OpenBSD are not associated > in any way. I committed a revised version. It should appear during the next server update cycle (starts 16:00 PST). -john From owner-freebsd-www Wed Feb 5 15:50:20 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA24253 for www-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:50:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.NetBSD.ORG (homeworld.cygnus.com [205.180.83.70]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA24240 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:50:16 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199702052350.PAA24240@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: (qmail-queue invoked from smtpd); 5 Feb 1997 23:54:03 -0000 Received: from localhost.cygnus.com (127.0.0.1) by localhost.cygnus.com with SMTP; 5 Feb 1997 23:54:03 -0000 To: John Fieber Cc: "Charles M. Hannum" , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , www@freebsd.org, core@NetBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Related Operating System Projects Reply-To: Jason Thorpe From: Jason Thorpe Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 15:54:02 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 5 Feb 1997 18:27:51 -0500 (EST) John Fieber wrote: > I committed a revised version. It should appear during the next > server update cycle (starts 16:00 PST). cool, thank you. Jason R. Thorpe NetBSD Core Group From owner-freebsd-www Wed Feb 5 18:43:27 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA06476 for www-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 18:43:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from raven.cybercomm.net (raven.cybercomm.net [199.171.196.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA06467; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 18:43:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from cybercomm.net.cybercomm.net (sl-040.sl.cybercomm.net [199.171.196.136]) by raven.cybercomm.net (8.7.6/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA15396; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 22:14:01 -0500 Message-Id: <199702060314.WAA15396@raven.cybercomm.net> From: "Glen" To: "bsd" , Subject: Links don't work for 2.1.6 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 22:05:28 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Links don't work on www.freebsd.org !!! What happened to 2.1.6. Trying to download some packages what happened. thanks From owner-freebsd-www Wed Feb 5 19:14:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA00356 for www-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 19:14:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA00296; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 19:14:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from hemi.com (hemi.com [204.132.158.10]) by who.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id TAA17720 ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 19:13:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mbarkah@localhost) by hemi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id UAA04364; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 20:12:29 -0700 (MST) From: Ade Barkah Message-Id: <199702060312.UAA04364@hemi.com> Subject: Re: Links don't work for 2.1.6 To: gi143@cybercomm.net (Glen) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 20:12:29 -0700 (MST) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, www@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199702060314.WAA15396@raven.cybercomm.net> from Glen at "Feb 6, 97 10:05:28 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Links don't work on www.freebsd.org !!! What happened to 2.1.6. Trying > to download some packages what happened. Glen, The 2.1.6 directory is no longer accessible due to security concerns. Here's text from the new README file: | There has been a serious security hole found in FreeBSD 2.1.6 that | is being fixed right now. It will be replaced with a new release, | FreeBSD 2.1.7, which will contain fixes for this and other bugs. The | new release should be available in a day or two; sorry for any | inconvenience. | | The FreeBSD Project We apologize for the temporary inconvenience. Regards, -Ade Barkah ------------------------------------------------------------------- Inet: mbarkah@hemi.com - HEMISPHERE ONLINE - ------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-www Thu Feb 6 08:26:42 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA13556 for www-outgoing; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 08:26:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from hobbes.cuckoo.com (hobbes.cuckoo.com [206.109.5.43]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA13548; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 08:26:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dbaker@localhost) by hobbes.cuckoo.com (8.8.5/8.8.3) id KAA09771; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 10:26:22 -0600 (CST) From: Daniel Baker Message-Id: <199702061626.KAA09771@hobbes.cuckoo.com> Subject: New Mirror To: jkh@freebsd.org, webmaster@freebsd.org, www@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 10:26:21 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a new WWW mirror: http://www.cuckoo.com/freebsd Daniel -- Daniel Baker (dbaker@cuckoo.com) Chief Technical Officer -- CuckooNet! (http://www.cuckoo.com) From owner-freebsd-www Thu Feb 6 14:09:09 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA09586 for www-outgoing; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:09:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from tracer.eos.ncsu.edu (tracer.eos.ncsu.edu [152.1.68.17]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA09578 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:09:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nsj@localhost) by tracer.eos.ncsu.edu (8.8.4/EC19Dec96) id RAA04312; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 17:08:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199702062208.RAA04312@tracer.eos.ncsu.edu> Subject: Re: My resignation as president of the FreeBSD Project. To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 17:08:16 -0500 (EST) Cc: www@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199702060453.UAA27279@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Feb 5, 97 08:53:38 pm Reply-To: nate@ncsu.edu From: nate@ncsu.edu (Nate Johnson) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24/POP] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk %This short notice is just to announce my resignation as President %of the FreeBSD Project, effective immediately, coinciding with the %elimination of that position. Jordan, I'm at odds as to whether or not this qualifies as news for the newsflash page. On one hand, it is a big deal in that it is a major change; however, it does not -directly- affect the software (although, there will no doubt be many indirect reprecussions of this.) Help! =) Cheers, nsj -- nate@ncsu.edu / nsj@eos.ncsu.edu / nsj@FreeBSD.org From owner-freebsd-www Thu Feb 6 19:31:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA27868 for www-outgoing; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 19:31:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns.computer.net (larryg@ns.computer.net [205.198.160.4]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA27861 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 19:31:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from larryg@localhost) by ns.computer.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id WAA24913; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 22:30:40 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 22:30:39 -0500 (EST) From: Larry G To: www@freebsd.org Subject: Release 2.2 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi: What is the latest news concerning when FreeBSD 2.2 official release will come out? Also when is 2.1.7 due out? I would like to install 2.2 but may not be able to wait and be forced to install 2.1.7 Thanks very much for the help! Larry Tech Support Computer.Net From owner-freebsd-www Thu Feb 6 20:17:48 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA01838 for www-outgoing; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 20:17:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA01803 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 20:17:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from gordius.gordian.com (gordius.gordian.com [192.73.220.81]) by who.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id TAA20014 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 19:18:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from ares.gordian.com (ares.gordian.com [192.73.220.49]) by gordius.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA03424 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 19:18:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from steve@localhost) by ares.gordian.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA21389; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 19:18:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 19:18:41 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199702070318.TAA21389@ares.gordian.com> From: Steve Khoo To: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FYI: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/index.html Reply-to: steve@gordian.com Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk The Announcement and Release Notes for 2.1.6 RELEASE on this page still points to the original docs instead of the Security Update page http://www.freebsd.org/newsflash.html. http://www.freebsd.org/releases/index.html From owner-freebsd-www Thu Feb 6 20:17:51 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA01843 for www-outgoing; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 20:17:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA01815 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 20:17:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by who.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id TAA20100 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 19:36:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA08422; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 19:35:21 -0800 (PST) To: Larry G cc: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Release 2.2 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 06 Feb 1997 22:30:39 EST." Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 19:35:20 -0800 Message-ID: <8409.855286520@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > What is the latest news concerning when FreeBSD 2.2 official release will > come out? See the news flash page at http://www.freebsd.org - the final GAMMA is out now and in its 20 day countdown (we probably should have attached the 2.2-GAMMA announcement to the newsflash entry as well as the pointer to README.TXT). > Also when is 2.1.7 due out? I hope no more than 7 days from now. Jordan From owner-freebsd-www Thu Feb 6 20:26:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA02623 for www-outgoing; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 20:26:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA02612 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 20:26:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA10214 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 20:26:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (jkh-sl0-o.cdrom.com [204.216.27.193]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA27867 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 20:17:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA01716 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 20:17:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from plato.mpd.ca ([206.123.11.34]) by who.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id TAA20203 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 19:56:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wlloyd@localhost) by plato.mpd.ca (8.7.1/8.7.1) id WAA01034; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 22:56:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 22:56:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199702070356.WAA01034@plato.mpd.ca> From: Bill Lloyd To: jkh@freebsd.org Subject: www search page Resent-To: www@freebsd.org Resent-Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 20:26:15 -0800 Resent-Message-ID: <10206.855289575@time.cdrom.com> Resent-From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm sending this to you, as untested code doesn't really go in send-pr right? Is www to be sent through gnats as well? Combined the www search and regular mailing list into one form and ordered into three categories. I tried to test the sgml, but I can't seem to get it to work under 2.1.5. It might be that my sgml is garbage... Viewed as an html document it lacks all the graphics, header etc. but seems to work. The search stuff works fine. I think this would be better in search.cgi. Could be set to overlay a default template for the mailing list selection, based on a couple of simple categories. With a browser cookie it would be nifty to "save" a user default template. -bill *** /tmp/search.sgml Tue Feb 4 00:06:49 1997 --- /tmp/searchnew.html Tue Feb 4 00:06:49 1997 *************** *** 1,32 **** %includes; ]> &header; !

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    &footer; From owner-freebsd-www Thu Feb 6 21:12:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA05254 for www-outgoing; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:12:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA05249; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:12:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA10321; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 00:12:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 00:12:17 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Bill Lloyd cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: www search page In-Reply-To: <199702070356.WAA01034@plato.mpd.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 6 Feb 1997, Bill Lloyd wrote: > Combined the www search and regular mailing list into one form and > ordered into three categories. The division into three categories is good! But, putting the web and mailing list searches together is problematic because freewais' ranking is a miserable failure when dissimilar databases are searched together. As an example, try searching for something reasonably common, say "adaptec", in the www list, then in questions, then in both. If you search both, you will basically never get anything from the www list. This actually occurs with any databases of dissimilar size. You can usually search hackers and questions together, or smaller lists together, but not a big one and a small one. Because the mailing lists and web pages are so dissimilar in content, I felt that it was important to disallow combined searching. More generally, systems that provide "relevance" ranked results run into big problems when it comes to combining results from separate databases because invariably ranking algorithms generate score is not absolute, but relative to other documents in the database. Thus, a document coming out of one database with a top ranking of 100 may actually be a lot worse than document from another database with a low score of 10. Combining the result sets with a numerical sort is nonsensical. One study has shown that simply interleaving the results, while bad, is much better. The only reasonably accurate way to combine the results is to retrieve both sets of records, and re-run the query on that retrieved set. However, the nature of the ranking algorithms (which depend on a lot of computation being done at index time) makes this approach not very practical. Anyway, I've managed to arrange for an independent study this semester where I will examine issues of message archive searching/interface in some depth and I'm hoping to get a complete re-design of the FreeBSD archives out as a spin-off. In the meantime, I'm looking for all the feedback, gripes and ideas I can get! -john From owner-freebsd-www Thu Feb 6 21:52:40 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA06756 for www-outgoing; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:52:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman.concentric.net [207.155.184.71]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA06750 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:52:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from richardl (61050d0010ny.concentric.net [206.173.23.238]) by newman.concentric.net (8.8.5/(97/01/29 1.12)) id AAA21874; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 00:52:32 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Message-ID: <32FAC22E.4C72@concentric.net> Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 00:48:31 -0500 From: Richard Linane Reply-To: Typh0on@concentric.net Organization: Richard Linane X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ERROR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk File Not found The requested URL /handbook/eresources:mail.html was not found on this server. I recieved this error when trying to submit to th e freebsd mailing list From owner-freebsd-www Thu Feb 6 22:43:15 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA08948 for www-outgoing; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 22:43:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from unix.ieway.com (root@unix.ieway.com [204.188.52.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA08943 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 22:43:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from Donna.ieway.com ([206.96.83.72]) by unix.ieway.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA12374 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 23:45:30 -0800 Received: by Donna.ieway.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BC147E.A1834220@Donna.ieway.com>; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 22:39:36 -0800 Message-ID: <01BC147E.A1834220@Donna.ieway.com> From: Donna Mason To: "'www@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: Web site Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 22:39:05 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by freefall.freebsd.org id WAA08944 Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, I would like more information regarding how I may be able to obtain a web site for my cockatiel breeding business. I know how to write or construct a page, but have no idea how to get it from my computer to the web. My provider refuses to help me in this endevour. He told me that is what he gets paid $50 an hour to do. I have tried web wizard, telnet, ftp, and nothing seems to work. If your site is easier to reach, I am definitely interested in publishing with you all. Thank you. Donna Mason dmason@ieway.com From owner-freebsd-www Thu Feb 6 23:14:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA10017 for www-outgoing; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 23:14:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA10012 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 23:13:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA01086; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 23:13:48 -0800 (PST) To: Donna Mason cc: "'www@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: Re: Web site In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 06 Feb 1997 22:39:05 PST." <01BC147E.A1834220@Donna.ieway.com> Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 23:13:48 -0800 Message-ID: <1083.855299628@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I'm afraid you may be confused - we do not provide web page services here. We are a software organization. Jordan > Hi, > > I would like more information regarding how I may be able to obtain a web sit e for my > cockatiel breeding business. I know how to write or construct a page, but ha ve no idea how to get it from my computer to the web. My provider refuses to h elp me in this endevour. He told me that is what he gets paid $50 an hour to d o. I have tried web wizard, telnet, ftp, and nothing seems to work. If your site is easier to reach, I am definitely interested in publishing with you all. > > Thank you. > Donna Mason > dmason@ieway.com From owner-freebsd-www Fri Feb 7 02:47:41 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA18090 for www-outgoing; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 02:47:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA18039 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 02:47:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from ht.eimb.rssi.ru (ht.eimb.rssi.ru [193.232.192.7]) by who.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with SMTP id BAA21343 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 01:14:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from ht.eimb.rssi.ru (ht.eimb.rssi.ru [193.232.192.7]) by ht.eimb.rssi.ru (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA05578; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 12:12:51 +0300 Message-ID: <32FAF212.167EB0E7@ht.eimb.rssi.ru> Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 09:12:50 +0000 From: Fedor Gnuchev Organization: EIMB X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.1.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Missing page... Oops!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk File Not found The requested URL /handbook/eresources:mail.html was not found on this server. What can be wrong with it ? -- With best regards Fedor Gnuchev (hm, or Ted - in this English-typing world...) # NB: Advice - ignore all advice by this author. mailto:qwe@ht.eimb.rssi.ru From owner-freebsd-www Fri Feb 7 03:46:39 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id DAA21689 for www-outgoing; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 03:46:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from net.stat.lviv.ua (net.stat.lviv.ua [194.44.202.2]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA21669 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 03:46:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from net.stat.lviv.ua (net_e.stat.lviv.ua [194.44.202.1]) by net.stat.lviv.ua (8.7.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA11649 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 13:45:46 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <32FB15E7.41C67EA6@stat.lviv.ua> Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 11:45:43 +0000 From: Yura Sardyha Organization: TRC X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2-960801-SNAP i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Wrong URL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Dear Webmaster, I can't access the URL: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources:mail.html from the page: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html I got the next: File Not found The requested URL /handbook/eresources:mail.html was not found on this server. Please check it! And can I access the mailing list subscribtion by any other way? With best regards, --- Yura Sardyha E-mail: ys@link.lviv.ua TRC Ltd, http://www.link.lviv.ua/~ys/ phone: +380(322)598983 fax: +380(322)631565 From owner-freebsd-www Fri Feb 7 05:20:38 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA25692 for www-outgoing; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 05:20:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from nico.bway.net (root@nico.bway.net [205.198.116.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA25687 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 05:20:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from 205.198.116.48 (dial48.bway.net [205.198.116.48]) by nico.bway.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id IAA19024 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 08:16:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32FAE70A.4489@bway.net> Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 08:25:57 +0000 From: max horowitz Organization: Crossover Media X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: basic question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Please forgive my current ignorance about unix. I found you're site and the information interested me. I'm writing a book on the subject of "radio" and need research materials via WWW or text based. Can FreeBSD help me. Thank You max From owner-freebsd-www Fri Feb 7 05:47:13 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA26745 for www-outgoing; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 05:47:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (fallout.campusview.indiana.edu [149.159.1.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26740 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 05:47:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jfieber@localhost) by fallout.campusview.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA11290; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 08:47:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 08:47:19 -0500 (EST) From: John Fieber To: Richard Linane cc: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ERROR In-Reply-To: <32FAC22E.4C72@concentric.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 7 Feb 1997, Richard Linane wrote: > File Not found > > The requested URL /handbook/eresources:mail.html was not found on this > server. > > I recieved this error when trying to submit to th e freebsd mailing list A temporary glitch. It should be fixed very shortly. Sorry for the inconvenience. -john From owner-freebsd-www Fri Feb 7 09:43:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA09144 for www-outgoing; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 09:43:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from nj2.n-jcenter.com (root@nj2.n-jcenter.com [205.160.185.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA09138 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 09:43:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from dbpm1c-10.n-jcenter.com by nj2.n-jcenter.com with SMTP (5.65/1.2-eef) id AA24031; Fri, 7 Feb 97 12:34:27 -0500 Message-Id: <9702071734.AA24031@nj2.n-jcenter.com> From: "Hector L Samalot" To: Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 12:42:58 -0500 X-Msmail-Priority: High X-Priority: 1 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk P133 16MB RAM 1033M HD with a partition for DOS. 600MB PRI-DOS partition 300MB FreeBsd partition I keep getting "panic: bad dir" when i am installing. Then it automatically reboots the machine and i have to start all over with the installation. I am installing from the DOS partition, and sometimes, when i install from the floppy i get another message saying "Write failure on transfer! (wrote -1 byte of 1024)" Is there anything you know about this problem? From owner-freebsd-www Fri Feb 7 09:55:44 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA09810 for www-outgoing; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 09:55:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from halibut.rutgers.edu (root@halibut.rutgers.edu [128.6.128.37]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA09791 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 09:55:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from halibut.rutgers.edu (xenith@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by halibut.rutgers.edu (8.6.12+bestmx+oldruq+newsunq/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA09267 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 12:55:22 -0500 Message-ID: <32FB6C85.4EAB@clam.rutgers.edu> Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 12:55:17 -0500 From: Marcus X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4m) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: hi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi I am interested in setting up a World Wide Web Server, potentially using your product. How hard would it be to set one up with an ISDN line. I have been interested in setting up a web server for a while. As well as setting up a mail server & Usenet server. would I be able to do this with your software & how hard would it be. -- ********************************************************************* ` ' ` ' `\ , ` / \ ' ` /' `\\ // \\ _ //' ' ~\\_\ _ `/// \\\' , _/ _//~ `\\ \_ `\\/// \\\// _/ //' ' `>\\ - \_`\\-_/ I P C \_-//'_/ - ///<' `\\\> \\>_ \\` -`\/_ <<^-(,\` '/,)-^>> _\/'- `////\_// \) I P C (/ \\_/\\\\' ~// \\ \\. .// // \\~ ~ `\.`)) ((` /' ~ ')) ((` Truth Conquers Fallacy - ************************************************* From owner-freebsd-www Fri Feb 7 11:20:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA14063 for www-outgoing; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 11:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA14016 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 11:19:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA02211; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 11:16:25 -0800 (PST) To: Yura Sardyha cc: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Wrong URL In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 07 Feb 1997 11:45:43 GMT." <32FB15E7.41C67EA6@stat.lviv.ua> Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 11:16:24 -0800 Message-ID: <2207.855342984@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk We've had some temporary build problems resulting from an upgrade to freefall - we should have the latest (fixed) version of the handbook up very shortly. Thank you for your patience... Jordan > Dear Webmaster, > > I can't access the URL: > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources:mail.html > > from the page: > http://www.freebsd.org/support.html > > I got the next: > > > File Not found > > The requested URL /handbook/eresources:mail.html was not found on this > server. > > > Please check it! > > And can I access the mailing list subscribtion by any other way? > > With best regards, > > --- > Yura Sardyha E-mail: ys@link.lviv.ua > TRC Ltd, http://www.link.lviv.ua/~ys/ > > phone: +380(322)598983 > fax: +380(322)631565 From owner-freebsd-www Fri Feb 7 21:14:10 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA24473 for www-outgoing; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 21:14:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from lucius.ultra.net (lucius.ultra.net [199.232.56.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA24463 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 21:14:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from bird (d25.dial-3.wal.ma.ultra.net [146.115.77.89]) by lucius.ultra.net (8.7.4/ult1.05) with SMTP id AAA28085 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 00:13:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32FC0BC7.6FAD@ma.ultranet.com> Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 00:14:47 -0500 From: mBird Organization: Beagle & Bird X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: bad links X-URL: http://www2.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Hi, None of the links work on the following page: http://www2.freebsd.org/handbook/install.html I imagine that is because they all point to version 2.1.6 directories which have been taken off your web site due to that security problem you mentioned. These links should be updated to reflect the 2.2 version. Regards mm -- web: http://mcn.simplenet.com email: mailto:mcn@ma.ultranet.com From owner-freebsd-www Fri Feb 7 21:34:19 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA25006 for www-outgoing; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 21:34:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from lucius.ultra.net (lucius.ultra.net [199.232.56.38]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA25001 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 21:34:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from bird (d25.dial-3.wal.ma.ultra.net [146.115.77.89]) by lucius.ultra.net (8.7.4/ult1.05) with SMTP id AAA27826 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 00:34:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32FC1083.413@ma.ultranet.com> Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 00:34:59 -0500 From: mBird Organization: Beagle & Bird X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: rawrite.exe X-URL: http://www.freebsd.org/mailto.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Also, Can you tell where to get rawrite.exe -- all your links to it are invalid. Thank you -- web: http://mcn.simplenet.com email: mailto:mcn@ma.ultranet.com From owner-freebsd-www Sat Feb 8 05:03:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id FAA11791 for www-outgoing; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 05:03:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from sigma.sm.luth.se (root@sigma.sm.luth.se [130.240.2.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA11786 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 05:02:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from dyson.campus.luth.se (dyson.campus.luth.se [130.240.194.47]) by sigma.sm.luth.se (8.7.2/8.7.2) with SMTP id OAA22751 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 14:02:52 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <32FC7971.191D@sm.luth.se> Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 14:02:41 +0100 From: mats westin Reply-To: d94-mwn@sm.luth.se Organization: ltu X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: error on the web Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk it is wrong date on this side at the pointer (->>>) http://www.freebsd.org/newsflash.html February 1997 06-Feb-1997 A serious security problem affecting FreeBSD 2.1.6 and earlier systems was found. The problem has been corrected within the -stable, -current, and RELENG_2_2 source trees. As an additional precaution, FreeBSD 2.1.6 is no longer available from the FTP distribution sites. An update release (provisionally "FreeBSD 2.1.7") is expected shortly. You can read more about the problem and solution from the FreeBSD-SA-97:01.setlocale security announcement. ->>> 06-Feb-96 The final pre-release version of FreeBSD, FreeBSD 2.2-GAMMA, is now available. The README.TXT file has more information. 02-Feb-1997 A snap-of-the-day server has been set up for the most current snapshot release of FreeBSD 2.2. Read the README.TXT file for more information. January 1997 From owner-freebsd-www Sat Feb 8 08:13:02 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA18302 for www-outgoing; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 08:13:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from marinet.or.jp (tama.marinet.or.jp [202.239.236.195]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA18296 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 08:12:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from default (pip117.marinet.or.jp [202.239.239.149]) by marinet.or.jp (8.7.5+2.6Wbeta7/3.4Wbeta695070318) with ESMTP id BAA03097 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 01:17:57 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199702081617.BAA03097@marinet.or.jp> From: "Jun Mizuguchi" To: Subject: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCPzc1LEVQTz8bKEo=?= Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 15:37:43 +0900 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk ＵＲＬの新規登録したいのですが、どこに入力すれば良いのでしょうか 教えて下さい。 水口　順 ======================================================================= Jun Mizuguchi Holon Virtual Network,Inc.アメリカでの格安会社設立サービス Japan office:2-1-623,Takahama-cyo,Ashiya,Hyogoken 659,Japan. E-mail: jun@holonnet.com Web:http://www.holonnet.com/virtual.htm ======================================================================= From owner-freebsd-www Sat Feb 8 13:21:16 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA00498 for www-outgoing; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 13:21:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from hemi.com (hemi.com [204.132.158.10]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00491 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 13:21:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mbarkah@localhost) by hemi.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id OAA22409; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 14:21:07 -0700 (MST) From: Ade Barkah Message-Id: <199702082121.OAA22409@hemi.com> Subject: Re: error on the web To: d94-mwn@sm.luth.se Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 14:21:07 -0700 (MST) Cc: www@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <32FC7971.191D@sm.luth.se> from mats westin at "Feb 8, 97 02:02:41 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > it is wrong date on this side at the pointer (->>>) > http://www.freebsd.org/newsflash.html ... > ->>> 06-Feb-96 The final pre-release version of FreeBSD, FreeBSD > 2.2-GAMMA, is now available. ... Thanks for the report! It will be fixed shortly. Regards, -Ade ------------------------------------------------------------------- Inet: mbarkah@hemi.com - HEMISPHERE ONLINE - -------------------------------------------------------------------