From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Aug 2 04:46:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA04363 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 04:46:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gjp.erols.com (alex-va-n008c079.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA04356 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 04:46:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (gjp@localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA02219 for ; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 07:46:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: alpha userland work Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1998 07:46:01 -0400 Message-ID: <2215.902058361@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone tried to compile the alpha `userland' bits lately? I tried this morning on an Alphastation 600 at work (running NetBSD-current) and failed miserably. I eventually got it through to compiling the libraries, but ran into a problem in lib/libc/gen/nlist.c, which assumes Elf32, which doesn't quite work on the Alpha. I'm assuming that all that needs to be done is replace Elf32 with Elf64, but are there any other gotchas out there? Has anyone tried this of late? Judging by the problems I ran into, I don't think so :) Thanks, Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Aug 2 05:07:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA05660 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 05:07:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA05652; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 05:07:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (herring.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.2]) by nlsystems.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA20177; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 12:10:07 GMT Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 13:10:07 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Gary Palmer cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: alpha userland work In-Reply-To: <2215.902058361@gjp.erols.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 2 Aug 1998, Gary Palmer wrote: > > Has anyone tried to compile the alpha `userland' bits lately? I tried this > morning on an Alphastation 600 at work (running NetBSD-current) and failed > miserably. I eventually got it through to compiling the libraries, but ran > into a problem in lib/libc/gen/nlist.c, which assumes Elf32, which doesn't > quite work on the Alpha. I'm assuming that all that needs to be done is > replace Elf32 with Elf64, but are there any other gotchas out there? Has > anyone tried this of late? Judging by the problems I ran into, I don't think > so :) I have a load of uncommitted userland changes, including one to nlist.c, which I need to re-read here and possibly get external reviews as appropriate. A hack to get nlist.c to compile is to s/32/64/ but the right thing is to check ELF_TARG_CLASS to see what width is being compiled (this is what I do). -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 951 1891 Fax: +44 181 381 1039 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Aug 2 05:18:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA06359 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 05:18:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cimlogic.com.au (cimlog.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.51.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA06351; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 05:18:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) id WAA20195; Sun, 2 Aug 1998 22:22:18 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199808021222.WAA20195@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: alpha userland work In-Reply-To: <2215.902058361@gjp.erols.com> from Gary Palmer at "Aug 2, 98 07:46:01 am" To: gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG (Gary Palmer) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 22:22:18 +1000 (EST) Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Gary Palmer wrote: > > Has anyone tried to compile the alpha `userland' bits lately? I tried this > morning on an Alphastation 600 at work (running NetBSD-current) and failed > miserably. I eventually got it through to compiling the libraries, but ran > into a problem in lib/libc/gen/nlist.c, which assumes Elf32, which doesn't > quite work on the Alpha. I'm assuming that all that needs to be done is > replace Elf32 with Elf64, but are there any other gotchas out there? Has > anyone tried this of late? Judging by the problems I ran into, I don't think > so :) There are things lingering in local trees. I have a fix for this and so does Doug. I haven't committed mine because it is not as clean as splitting nlist.c like NetBSD does. -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 3 04:45:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA11425 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 04:45:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gjp.erols.com (alex-va-n008c079.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA11398 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 04:45:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (gjp@localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA04961; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 07:44:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: John Birrell cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: alpha userland work In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 02 Aug 1998 22:22:18 +1000." <199808021222.WAA20195@cimlogic.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1998 07:44:32 -0400 Message-ID: <4957.902144672@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Birrell wrote in message ID <199808021222.WAA20195@cimlogic.com.au>: > There are things lingering in local trees. I have a fix for this and so > does Doug. I haven't committed mine because it is not as clean as splitting > nlist.c like NetBSD does. Yeah, I just looked at the way NetBSD does it and its certainly cleaner than a large #ifdef mess or having multiple copies of nlist.c in machine-dependant sections. Right now I'm getting through to compiling the build tools. It compiles and installs `install', and then everything after that fails as install SIG11's somewhere. I'm guessing that its to do with an interaction with the NetBSD kernel rather than an inherant limitation in install. I'll try and debug this later. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 3 09:08:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA15167 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 09:08:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from server5.singular.com (server5.singular.com [204.140.208.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA15162 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 09:08:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from JBarbee@server5.singular.com) Received: by server5.singular.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 09:08:43 -0700 Message-ID: <71B40CA7B273D0119DBF080009B46D4003E0F6@server5.singular.com> From: John Barbee To: "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" Subject: multiple cdroms? boot floppies? Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 09:08:42 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org My friend and I tried to upgrade the firmware on his AlphaStation 200. When we tried a "show device" it outputted the floppy, scsi controller, harddrive, ethernet card and 8 cdrom drives (dka200..dka207). There is only one cdrom drive in the machine. This may or may not be related to us not being able to upgrade the firmware. Whenever we type "boot dka20*" (we tried them all), it just said that the block wasn't 512 bytes. Incidentally, is there a freebsd-alpha boot floppy that I can download? The redhat boot floppy that we made didn't work. We followed the instructions but it was unable to mount the / vfs. tia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 3 10:29:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA03138 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 10:29:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gateway.sequent.com (gateway.sequent.com [138.95.18.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03132 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 10:29:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from seifert@sequent.com) Received: from eng4.sequent.com (eng4.sequent.com [138.95.7.64]) by gateway.sequent.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA09353 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 06:58:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (seifert@localhost) by eng4.sequent.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA11413 for ; Mon, 3 Aug 1998 10:28:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199808031728.KAA11413@eng4.sequent.com> X-Authentication-Warning: eng4.sequent.com: seifert@localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: multiple cdroms? boot floppies? Date: Mon, 03 Aug 98 10:28:50 PDT From: David Seifert Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > When we tried a "show device" it outputted the floppy, scsi controller, > harddrive, ethernet card and 8 cdrom drives (dka200..dka207). There is > only one cdrom drive in the machine. Is this a jukebox drive? I'd guess that SRM is probing for all LUNs and the drive (at SCSI ID 2 I presume) responded to LUNs 0-7. > it just said that the block wasn't 512 bytes. See if the drive has a jumper for block size. -Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message