From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Oct 26 07:43:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA22155 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 07:43:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from portal.net.au (galley.portal.net.au [202.12.71.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA22146 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 07:43:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@portal.net.au) Received: (from matt@localhost) by portal.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA07638 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 02:12:29 +1030 (CST) From: Matt Baker Message-Id: <199810261542.CAA07638@portal.net.au> Subject: Digital chipset ethernet card To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 02:12:29 +1030 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Howdy, Isn't it just great when your supplier changes the model of ethernet card they send you without warning... Up until now I've been using an SVEC digital chipset based 10/100 ethernet card with no problems. They have replaced this with the new model, based still on the DEC chipset, but now using a 21143-PC chip. And low and behold, it won't talk out the port. (system recognises it). The man pages say that the 21143 chip is supported, but I guess the line interface is not. Boot output is: Oct 27 00:08:22 squid /kernel: de0 rev 48 int a ir q 12 on pci0:9:0 Oct 27 00:08:22 squid /kernel: de0: 21143 [10-100Mb/s] pass 3.0 Oct 27 00:08:22 squid /kernel: de0: address 00:c0:ca:11:78:75 As an alternative I purchsed some Accton cards. Known as EN1207B's the system actually recognises them on boot. But again it won't talk out the port. (yep, tested cables etc, works fine with old card). These have a 21140-AF chip on then, and a Level One LXT970QC which I take is the line interface. Boot output is: Oct 27 00:18:41 squid /kernel: de0 rev 34 int a i rq 12 on pci0:9:0 Oct 27 00:18:41 squid /kernel: mapreg[10] type=1 addr=0000d400 size=0080. Oct 27 00:18:42 squid /kernel: mapreg[14] type=0 addr=e5800000 size=0080. Oct 27 00:18:42 squid /kernel: reg16: ioaddr=0xd400 size=0x80 Oct 27 00:18:42 squid /kernel: de0: ACCTON EN1207 21140A [10-100Mb/s] pass 2.2 Oct 27 00:18:42 squid /kernel: de0: address 00:00:e8:50:0e:a4 Oct 27 00:18:42 squid /kernel: de0: enabling 100baseTX port Anyone had any luck with getting either of these to work? Oh, OS is FreeBSD-2.2.7-RELEASE Thanks, Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Oct 26 11:44:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13812 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:44:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13806 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:44:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00647; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:43:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199810261943.LAA00647@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Matt Baker cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Digital chipset ethernet card In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 27 Oct 1998 02:12:29 +1030." <199810261542.CAA07638@portal.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:43:31 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Isn't it just great when your supplier changes the model of ethernet > card they send you without warning... Bleagh. > Up until now I've been using an SVEC digital chipset based 10/100 > ethernet card with no problems. > They have replaced this with the new model, based still on the DEC > chipset, but now using a 21143-PC chip. And low and behold, it won't > talk out the port. (system recognises it). Yes. Make sure you're completely up to date with the 'de' driver; there was a recent update which may have improved your situation. > The man pages say that the 21143 chip is supported, but I guess the > line interface is not. The 21143 is "sort of" supported. The 'de' driver is problematic in that it's maintained by a third party (Matt Thomas), but they are somewhat busy with "real work" and don't seem to be responding to any sort of encouragement or queries. > As an alternative I purchsed some Accton cards. Known as EN1207B's > the system actually recognises them on boot. But again it won't talk > out the port. (yep, tested cables etc, works fine with old card). > These have a 21140-AF chip on then, and a Level One LXT970QC which > I take is the line interface. Yup. Jargon for that is "PHY". > Boot output is: > Oct 27 00:18:41 squid /kernel: de0 rev 34 int a i > rq 12 on pci0:9:0 > Oct 27 00:18:41 squid /kernel: mapreg[10] type=1 addr=0000d400 size=0080. > Oct 27 00:18:42 squid /kernel: mapreg[14] type=0 addr=e5800000 size=0080. > Oct 27 00:18:42 squid /kernel: reg16: ioaddr=0xd400 size=0x80 > Oct 27 00:18:42 squid /kernel: de0: ACCTON EN1207 21140A [10-100Mb/s] pass 2.2 > Oct 27 00:18:42 squid /kernel: de0: address 00:00:e8:50:0e:a4 > Oct 27 00:18:42 squid /kernel: de0: enabling 100baseTX port > > Anyone had any luck with getting either of these to work? > Oh, OS is FreeBSD-2.2.7-RELEASE These should work fine. Are you on 10 or 100? The output you quote there indicates 100; if you're on 10 you might want to try "ifconfig de0 media 10baseT" (you can splat this in the ifconfig in /etc/rc.conf). -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Oct 26 15:47:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA09187 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:47:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from portal.net.au (galley.portal.net.au [202.12.71.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA09175 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:47:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@portal.net.au) Received: (from matt@localhost) by portal.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10593; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:16:27 +1030 (CST) From: Matt Baker Message-Id: <199810262346.KAA10593@portal.net.au> Subject: Re: Digital chipset ethernet card To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:16:26 +1030 (CST) Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199810261943.LAA00647@dingo.cdrom.com> from "Mike Smith" at Oct 26, 98 11:43:31 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Up until now I've been using an SVEC digital chipset based 10/100 > > ethernet card with no problems. > > They have replaced this with the new model, based still on the DEC > > chipset, but now using a 21143-PC chip. And low and behold, it won't > > talk out the port. (system recognises it). > > Yes. Make sure you're completely up to date with the 'de' driver; there > was a recent update which may have improved your situation. Yes, taken the latest if_de & if_devar from FreeBSD-stable. Still the same result. Next try is 3.0, as it appears that the de driver has changed more. > > Boot output is: > > Oct 27 00:18:41 squid /kernel: de0 rev 34 int a i > > rq 12 on pci0:9:0 > > Oct 27 00:18:41 squid /kernel: mapreg[10] type=1 addr=0000d400 size=0080. > > Oct 27 00:18:42 squid /kernel: mapreg[14] type=0 addr=e5800000 size=0080. > > Oct 27 00:18:42 squid /kernel: reg16: ioaddr=0xd400 size=0x80 > > Oct 27 00:18:42 squid /kernel: de0: ACCTON EN1207 21140A [10-100Mb/s] pass 2.2 > > Oct 27 00:18:42 squid /kernel: de0: address 00:00:e8:50:0e:a4 > > Oct 27 00:18:42 squid /kernel: de0: enabling 100baseTX port > > > > Anyone had any luck with getting either of these to work? > > Oh, OS is FreeBSD-2.2.7-RELEASE > > These should work fine. Are you on 10 or 100? The output you quote > there indicates 100; if you're on 10 you might want to try "ifconfig > de0 media 10baseT" (you can splat this in the ifconfig in /etc/rc.conf). Have tried to talk to both a 10 & 100 port. Both autoconf, and set using the media statement. >From what I've seen, all de cards firstly say "100baseTX mode", then change it back again later in the boot cycle when the ifconfig command is reached in rc.conf. At that point it does change to 10BaseT/UTP if commanded to, and the LED on the back changes to reflect this. Thanks, --matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Oct 26 22:21:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA15556 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 22:21:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.exo.net.au (sky-valley.exo.net.au [203.14.230.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA15543 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 22:21:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bullseye.apana.org.au!andymac@mail.exo.net.au) Received: by mail.exo.net.au id m0zY0Br-0004tOC (Debian Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #2); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 14:53:03 +1100 (EST) Received: from bullseye.apana.org.au (central.apana.org.au [203.9.107.245]) by bullseye.apana.org.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA23075; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 08:57:53 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from andymac@bullseye.apana.org.au) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 07:49:26 +1000 (EST) From: Andrew MacIntyre To: Matt Baker cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Digital chipset ethernet card In-Reply-To: <199810261542.CAA07638@portal.net.au> Message-ID: X-X-Sender: andymac@bullseye.apana.org.au MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 27 Oct 1998, Matt Baker wrote: > Up until now I've been using an SVEC digital chipset based 10/100 > ethernet card with no problems. > They have replaced this with the new model, based still on the DEC > chipset, but now using a 21143-PC chip. And low and behold, it won't > talk out the port. (system recognises it). > The man pages say that the 21143 chip is supported, but I guess the > line interface is not. > Boot output is: > Oct 27 00:08:22 squid /kernel: de0 rev 48 int a ir > q 12 on pci0:9:0 > Oct 27 00:08:22 squid /kernel: de0: 21143 [10-100Mb/s] pass 3.0 > Oct 27 00:08:22 squid /kernel: de0: address 00:c0:ca:11:78:75 > > > As an alternative I purchsed some Accton cards. Known as EN1207B's > the system actually recognises them on boot. But again it won't talk > out the port. (yep, tested cables etc, works fine with old card). > These have a 21140-AF chip on then, and a Level One LXT970QC which > I take is the line interface. > Boot output is: > Oct 27 00:18:41 squid /kernel: de0 rev 34 int a i > rq 12 on pci0:9:0 > Oct 27 00:18:41 squid /kernel: mapreg[10] type=1 addr=0000d400 size=0080. > Oct 27 00:18:42 squid /kernel: mapreg[14] type=0 addr=e5800000 size=0080. > Oct 27 00:18:42 squid /kernel: reg16: ioaddr=0xd400 size=0x80 > Oct 27 00:18:42 squid /kernel: de0: ACCTON EN1207 21140A [10-100Mb/s] pass 2.2 > Oct 27 00:18:42 squid /kernel: de0: address 00:00:e8:50:0e:a4 > Oct 27 00:18:42 squid /kernel: de0: enabling 100baseTX port You don't say whether your're trying to use these at 10 or 100Mbps. If 10Mbps, try the "media" and "mediaopt" ifconfig options - see the de manpage for details. -- Andrew I MacIntyre "These thoughts are mine alone..." E-mail: andrew.macintyre@aba.gov.au (work) | Snail: PO Box 370 andymac@bullseye.apana.org.au (play) | Belconnen ACT 2616 Fido: Andrew MacIntyre, 3:620/243.18 | Australia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Oct 27 08:03:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29548 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 08:03:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from citrine.cyberstation.net (citrine.cyberstation.net [205.167.0.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA29543 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 08:03:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jumpmaster@citrine.cyberstation.net) Received: from cst.net (amethyst.cyberstation.net [205.167.0.23]) by citrine.cyberstation.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA05057 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:03:11 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3635EEC3.CAAAB53D@cst.net> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:03:15 -0600 From: jumpmaster X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Can you help? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sirs, I have installed FreeBSD 2.2.7 via FTP on my system. I inserted the boot floppy and the intallation program found my network interface just fine. It is a PCI NIC built into the MB. The interface was shown as lnc1. I was able for plug in my settings and download very easily. Now when I boot from the kernel it installed on mh HD the network interface is not found. I get the message: ifconfig: interface lnc1 does not exist If I run /stand/sysinstall to try to reconfigure the network interface it does not give me the option to configure an ethernet connection. Here is dmesg -v I get when booting from the HD. Copyright (c) 1992-1998 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 2.2.7-19981020-SNAP #0: Tue Oct 20 18:52:06 GMT 1998 root@usw3.freebsd.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC Calibrating clock(s) ... i8254 clock: 1193224 Hz CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency CPU: i486 DX2 Write-Back Enhanced (486-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x470 Stepping=0 Features=0xb real memory = 16777216 (16384K bytes) Physical memory chunk(s): 0x00001000 - 0x0009efff, 647168 bytes (158 pages) 0x0027b000 - 0x00ffdfff, 14168064 bytes (3459 pages) avail memory = 14282752 (13948K bytes) DPT: RAID Manager driver, Version 1.0.5 pcibus_setup(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x00000000 pcibus_setup(1a): mode1res=0x00000000 (0x80000000) pcibus_setup(1b): mode1res=0x80000000 (0xff000001) pcibus_check: device 0 is there (id=20000e11) Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: configuration mode 1 allows 32 devices. DPT: PCI SCSI HBA Driver, version 1.4.3 pci0:0: Compaq, device=0x2000, class=old (misc) int I irq 72 [no driver assigned] map(10): mem32(0021c3f0) map(14): mem32(0021c3f0) map(18): mem32(0021c3f0) map(1c): mem32(0021c3f0) map(20): io(20000e10) vga0 rev 142 int a irq 11 on pci0:10:0 mapreg[10] type=0 addr=40000000 size=1000000. lnc1 rev 2 int a irq 11 on pci0:11:0 mapreg[10] type=1 addr=00001000 size=0020. reg16: ioaddr=0x1000 size=0x20 chip0 rev 2 on pci0:15:0 pci0: uses 16777216 bytes of memory from 40000000 upto 40ffffff. pci0: uses 32 bytes of I/O space from 1000 upto 101f. Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0: the current keyboard controller command byte 0065 kbdio: DIAGNOSE status:0055 kbdio: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 kbdio: RESET_KBD return code:00fa kbdio: RESET_KBD status:00aa sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: BIOS video mode:3 sc0: VGA registers upon power-up 50 18 10 00 10 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 07 80 9c ae 8f 28 1f 96 b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff sc0: video mode:24 sc0: VGA registers in BIOS for mode:24 50 18 10 00 10 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 00 00 9c ae 8f 28 1f 96 b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff sc0: VGA registers to be used for mode:24 50 18 10 00 10 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 00 00 9c ae 8f 28 1f 96 b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff sc0: rows_offset:1 sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0: disabled, not probed. fe0: disabled, not probed. sio0: irq maps: 0x1 0x11 0x1 0x1 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1: irq maps: 0x1 0x1 0x1 0x1 sio1: probe failed test(s): 0 1 2 4 6 7 9 sio1 not found at 0x2f8 sio2: disabled, not probed. sio3: disabled, not probed. lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface lpt1 not found at 0xffffffff mse0: disabled, not probed. psm0: disabled, not probed. fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 515MB (1056384 sectors), 1048 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 not found at 0x170 bt0: disabled, not probed. uha0: disabled, not probed. aha0: disabled, not probed. aic0: disabled, not probed. nca0: disabled, not probed. nca1: disabled, not probed. sea0: disabled, not probed. wt0: disabled, not probed. mcd0: disabled, not probed. matcdc0: disabled, not probed. scd0: disabled, not probed. ie0: disabled, not probed. ep0: disabled, not probed. ex0: disabled, not probed. le0: disabled, not probed. lnc0: disabled, not probed. ze0: disabled, not probed. zp0: disabled, not probed. cs0: disabled, not probed. npx0 flags 0x1 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface apm0: disabled, not probed. imasks: bio c0084040, tty c0070092, net c0070092 BIOS Geometries: 0:02091f3f 0..521=522 cylinders, 0..31=32 heads, 1..63=63 sectors 0 accounted for Device configuration finished. new masks: bio c0084040, tty c0070092, net c0070092 Considering FFS root f/s. wd0s1: type 0xa5, start 0, end = 1056383, size 1056384 wd0s1: C/H/S end 65/192/63 (802493) != end 1056383: invalid To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Oct 27 10:27:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA11025 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:27:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from clif.pcinternet.net (CLIF.pcinternet.net [207.137.55.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10916 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:27:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sysop@pcinternet.net) Received: from dizzy (pcirc013.pcinternet.net [209.203.111.142]) by clif.pcinternet.net (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA01943 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:27:52 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19981027102625.009e7360@mail.pcinternet.net> X-Sender: sysop@mail.pcinternet.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:26:25 -0800 To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG From: Joe Bissot Subject: Promise Fasttrak and Buslogic BT930R Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is there a driver for the Promise Fasttrak IDE RAID controller? Also is there a driver for the Buslogic(Mylex) BT930Raid Plus controller? I know there is a generic Buslogic driver, but will it work with the BT930 with the RAID feature enabled? Or more generally is there an inexpensive option to hardware mirror drives under FreeBSD? 0000,0000,ffff----------------------------------------- Joe Bissot - sysop@PCInternet.net Phone (909)307-2861 / Pager (888)329-6021 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Oct 27 11:43:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA17466 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:43:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17461 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:43:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00720; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:43:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199810271943.LAA00720@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Joe Bissot cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Promise Fasttrak and Buslogic BT930R In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:26:25 PST." <3.0.2.32.19981027102625.009e7360@mail.pcinternet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:43:11 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Is there a driver for the Promise Fasttrak IDE RAID controller? No. I purchased one recently to test it, and it appears to be a hardware-assisted software RAID solution, not a true RAID controller. > Also is there a driver for the Buslogic(Mylex) BT930Raid Plus controller? Under development. > Or more generally is there an inexpensive option to hardware mirror > drives under FreeBSD? Any SCSI:SCSI RAID controller, or consider using ccd or vinum. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Oct 27 12:23:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20969 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:23:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from loviatar.webcom.com (loviatar.webcom.com [209.1.28.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20964 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:23:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from u@webcom.com) Received: from eresh.webcom.com (eresh.webcom.com [209.1.28.49]) by loviatar.webcom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA23485; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:22:44 -0800 Received: from [199.183.207.108] by inanna.webcom.com (WebCom SMTP 1.2.1) with SMTP id 10072563; Tue Oct 27 12:21 PST 1998 Message-Id: <36365502.2F59@webcom.com> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:19:30 -0800 From: Graeme Tait Organization: Echidna X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Joe Bissot , hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: info@boatbooks.com Subject: Re: Promise Fasttrak and Buslogic BT930R References: <3.0.2.32.19981027102625.009e7360@mail.pcinternet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Joe Bissot wrote: > Or more generally is there an inexpensive option to hardware mirror > drives under FreeBSD? Look at http://www.arcoide.com/ . No driver required AFAIK. I was going to use this, until a flood of messages about my suggested configuration convinced me to use SCSI ;-) -- Graeme Tait - Echidna To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Oct 27 15:31:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11566 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:31:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11561 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:31:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from localhost (2995 bytes) by rip.psg.com via sendmail with P:stdio/R:inet_resolve/T:smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:30:44 -0800 (PST) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #1 built 1998-Oct-13) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:30:44 -0800 (PST) From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: WaveLAN ISA clues needed References: <199810271532.KAA04374@pine.ucs.indiana.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i have an ISA 915mhz roamabout. [ i have been using pcmcia roamabouts for a few years, even one on an isa pcmcia adapter under bsdi ] dmesg sez: wl0 at 0x300-0x30f irq 10 on isa wlattach: base 300, unit 0 wl0: address 08:00:6a:2b:dd:a7, NWID 0xaaaa as you can seem i had already done wlconfig wl0 nwid 0xaaaa i ifconfig it # ifconfig wl0 inet 147.28.2.42 netmask 255.255.255.0 up Oct 27 15:20:25 rip /kernel: wl0: entered wlioctl() Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: DCE_STATUS: 0x0, Correct NWID's: 65535, Wrong NWID's: 2 Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: THR_PRE_SET: 0x44, SIGNAL_LVL: 205, SILENCE_LVL: 192 Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: SIGN_QUAL: 0x7f, NETW_ID: ff:aa, DES: 255 Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: entered wlioctl() Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: entered wlinit() Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: entered wlhwrst() Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: DCE_STATUS: 0x0, Correct NWID's: 0, Wrong NWID's: 0 Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: THR_PRE_SET: 0xc0, SIGNAL_LVL: 76, SILENCE_LVL: 64 Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: SIGN_QUAL: 0x7f, NETW_ID: ff:0, DES: 255 Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: doing a wlack() Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: entered wldiag() Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: entered wlconfig() Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: doing a wlack() Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: doing a wlack() Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: entered wlrustrt() Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: entered wlstart() Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: entered wlstart() Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: entered wlxmt() Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: wavelan device timeout on xmit Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: entered wlinit() Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: entered wlhwrst() Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: DCE_STATUS: 0x0, Correct NWID's: 0, Wrong NWID's: 0 Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: THR_PRE_SET: 0xc0, SIGNAL_LVL: 76, SILENCE_LVL: 64 Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: SIGN_QUAL: 0x7f, NETW_ID: ff:0, DES: 255 Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: doing a wlack() Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: entered wldiag() Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: entered wlconfig() Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: doing a wlack() Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: doing a wlack() Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: entered wlrustrt() Oct 27 15:20:26 rip /kernel: wl0: entered wlstart() and another host which has a known-to-be-working 915 at 147.28.2.2 with nwid 0xaaaa can not see the isa card wavelan. 3.0 of a few days ago on asus p350. any hints appreciated. the wl and wlconfig man pages are a bit weak. randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Oct 27 16:00:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA16426 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 16:00:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from reliam.teaser.fr (reliam.teaser.fr [194.51.80.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16412 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 16:00:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from son@teaser.fr) Received: from teaser.fr (ppp1087-ft.teaser.fr [194.206.156.40]) by reliam.teaser.fr (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id AAA31556; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 00:59:51 +0100 (MET) Received: (from son@localhost) by teaser.fr (8.9.1/8.8.5) id BAA00857; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 01:21:23 GMT Message-ID: <19981028012122.03699@breizh.prism.uvsq.fr> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 01:21:22 +0000 From: Nicolas Souchu To: Steve Friedrich Cc: "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Hardware monitoring capabilities References: <199810032049.QAA08998@laker.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81e In-Reply-To: <199810032049.QAA08998@laker.net>; from Steve Friedrich on Sat, Oct 03, 1998 at 04:49:23PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD breizh 3.0-BETA FreeBSD 3.0-BETA Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Oct 03, 1998 at 04:49:23PM -0400, Steve Friedrich wrote: >I am interested in motherboards that provide the ability to monitor >various temperature readings, fan speeds, etc. Are you interested in providing monitoring capabilities to FreeBSD too? > >I have an ASUS TX97. > >Is it possible to read these values from freebsd? If so, has anyone Not yet. The driver we'll be available before the end of the year, I hope. >written a daemon to run in the background to monitor interrupts from >the LM78/75 so freebsd can inform a user at the consoles when temp is >too high, etc. Can the LM78/75's Over Temp Shutdown feature be used to >invoke shutdown ?? Could user stuff be your part of the work? >Unix systems measure "uptime" in years, Winblows measures it in minutes. > Nicolas. -- Nicolas.Souchu@prism.uvsq.fr FreeBSD - Turning PCs into workstations - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Oct 27 16:23:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA19634 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 16:23:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from laker.net (jet.laker.net [205.245.74.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA19603 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 16:23:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sfriedri@laker.net) Received: from nt (digital-pbi-168.laker.net [208.0.233.68]) by laker.net (8.9.0/8.9.LAKERNET.NO-SPAM.SPAMMERS.AND.RELAYS.WILL.BE.TRACKED.AND.PROSECUTED.) with SMTP id TAA23231; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:22:18 -0500 Message-Id: <199810280022.TAA23231@laker.net> From: "Steve Friedrich" To: "Nicolas Souchu" Cc: "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:21:10 -0500 Reply-To: "Steve Friedrich" X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Professional (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (4.0.1381;3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Hardware monitoring capabilities Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 01:21:22 +0000, Nicolas Souchu wrote: >On Sat, Oct 03, 1998 at 04:49:23PM -0400, Steve Friedrich wrote: >>I am interested in motherboards that provide the ability to monitor >>various temperature readings, fan speeds, etc. > >Are you interested in providing monitoring capabilities to FreeBSD too? Yes. It's rather pointless to only be able to read the temp when you're in BIOS Setup, right. >> >>I have an ASUS TX97. >> >>Is it possible to read these values from freebsd? If so, has anyone > >Not yet. The driver we'll be available before the end of the year, I >hope. > >>written a daemon to run in the background to monitor interrupts from >>the LM78/75 so freebsd can inform a user at the consoles when temp is >>too high, etc. Can the LM78/75's Over Temp Shutdown feature be used to >>invoke shutdown ?? > >Could user stuff be your part of the work? Sure, I'll sign up for that... Unix systems measure "uptime" in years, Winblows measures it in minutes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Oct 27 17:39:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA29868 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 17:39:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (skynet.ctr.columbia.edu [128.59.64.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA29855; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 17:39:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu) Received: (from wpaul@localhost) by skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id UAA11413; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 20:44:04 -0500 From: Bill Paul Message-Id: <199810280144.UAA11413@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Subject: Call for testers for Winbond W89C840F driver To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 20:44:02 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a call for testers for the Winbond W89C840F fast ethernet driver. The Winbond 840F is a tulip clone with a couple of wrinkles: the registers are spaced 4 bytes apart instead of 8 and the receive filter is programmed by writing directly to registers instead of loading a setup frame via the transmit DMA engine. The receive filter also has only one perfect address and a 64-bit multicast hash filter instead of a 16 entry perfect filter ans a 512-bit hash table. The driver source is available from the following locations: http://www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/Winbond/3.0 source for FreeBSD 3.0 http://www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/Winbond/2.2 source for FreeBSD 2.2.x To add the driver to an existing system, do the following: - Download the correct version of if_wb.c and if_wbreg.h for your version of FreeBSD. - Copy if_wb.c and if_wbreg.h to /sys/pci. - Edit /sys/conf/files and add a line that says: pci/if_wb.c optional wb device-driver - Edit your kernel config file (e.g. /sys/i386/conf/GENERIC) and add a line that says: device wb0 - Configure a and compile a new kernel and boot it. So far, the only card I've found that uses the Winbond chip is the Trendware TE100-PCIE (www.trendware.com). Trendware also makes DEC tulip and PNIC adapters. I believe Winbond may make their own cards with this chip as well. Note: - This is the W89C940F is _NOT_ The same as the W89C840F. The 940 is a 10Mbps only NE2000 clone. - The wb driver uses the same 'kludge descriptor' hack as the PNIC driver. I get the idea that the behavior I noticed with the PNIC is par for the course with tulip and tulip-like devices. I think reloading the transmit list base address register is only possible when the transmitter is in the 'stopped' state. Now I defy anybody to tell me how to put the transmitter in the 'stopped' state other than by resetting the chip. As usual, please report successes or failures to wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu. -Bill -- ============================================================================= -Bill Paul (212) 854-6020 | System Manager, Master of Unix-Fu Work: wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu | Center for Telecommunications Research Home: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu | Columbia University, New York City ============================================================================= "It is not I who am crazy; it is I who am mad!" - Ren Hoek, "Space Madness" ============================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Oct 27 18:02:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA03104 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:02:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ryouko.nas.nasa.gov (ryouko.nas.nasa.gov [129.99.34.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA03099 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:02:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from greg@ryouko.nas.nasa.gov) Received: from ryouko.nas.nasa.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ryouko.nas.nasa.gov (8.8.7/NAS8.8.7n) with ESMTP id SAA29654; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:01:32 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199810280201.SAA29654@ryouko.nas.nasa.gov> To: Bill Paul Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Call for testers for Winbond W89C840F driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 27 Oct 1998 20:44:02 EST." <199810280144.UAA11413@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:01:32 -0800 From: "Gregory P. Smith" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > driver. The Winbond 840F is a tulip clone with a couple of wrinkles: > the registers are spaced 4 bytes apart instead of 8 and the receive > filter is programmed by writing directly to registers instead of > loading a setup frame via the transmit DMA engine. The receive filter > also has only one perfect address and a 64-bit multicast hash filter > instead of a 16 entry perfect filter ans a 512-bit hash table. Sounds like a pretty sad chip design. Let's see, get rid of the 64-bit structure alignment, dump its ability to do a reasonable amount of multicast efficiently... I hope these don't catch on considering real tulip chip based cards are already dirt cheap. ;) Ah well, good to see it supported none the less. > So far, the only card I've found that uses the Winbond chip is the > Trendware TE100-PCIE (www.trendware.com). Trendware also makes DEC > tulip and PNIC adapters. I believe Winbond may make their own cards with > this chip as well. -G To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Oct 27 20:28:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA17230 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 20:28:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mindcrime.termfrost.org (mindcrime.termfrost.org [208.141.2.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA17220 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 20:28:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mandrews@termfrost.org) Received: from localhost (mandrews@localhost) by mindcrime.termfrost.org (8.9.1/8.9.1/mindcrime-19980923) with ESMTP id XAA22171 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 23:28:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mandrews@termfrost.org) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 23:28:07 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Andrews To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Sony SDT-5000 hardware compression? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm having problems making hardware compression work on a Sony SDT-5000 tape drive, which is supposed to be a DDS-2 drive. 90 meter tapes are filling up at the 2 gig mark -- I should be able to get at least 3 or so per tape, since the data I'm backing up is pretty compressible. I've tried the obvious: tarkus# uname -a FreeBSD tarkus.dcr.net 2.2.7-STABLE FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE #0: Tue Oct 13 07:52:09 EDT 1998 mandrews@dusty.dcr.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/TARKUS i386 tarkus# dmesg | grep ncr0:3:0 (ncr0:3:0): "SONY SDT-5000 3.30" type 1 removable SCSI 2 st0(ncr0:3:0): Sequential-Access st0(ncr0:3:0): 5.0 MB/s (200 ns, offset 8) tarkus# mt status Present Mode: Density = X3B5/88-185A Blocksize variable Comp 0 ---------available modes--------- Mode 0: Density = 0x00 Blocksize variable Mode 1: Density = X3.136-1986 Blocksize = 512 bytes Mode 2: Density = X3.39-1986 Blocksize variable Mode 3: Density = X3.54-1986 Blocksize variable tarkus# mt comp 1 mt: /dev/nrst0: comp: Invalid argument tarkus# mt density 0x8c mt: /dev/nrst0: density: Invalid argument (the latter is the density code on an Exabyte 8500C, supposedly... it was kind a shot in the dark) I'm beginning to wonder if this version of the drive doesn't have compression -- it's labeled SDT-5010 on the case, but comes up as a SDT-5000 when the system boots. There is a jumper on the back that is labeled "DC Disable" on Sony's spec sheet, and I've tried it in both the Enable and Disable position. (DC Disable Disable is a confusing double negative, so I'm not 100% sure which way it's supposed to go. :) This has to be something simple; this kind of thing doesn't usually stump me, and I'll probably be embarassed when someone points it out... Thanks! Mike Andrews (MA12) icq 6602506 -------------- mandrews@termfrost.org VP 'n' Systems/Network Administrator --------------- mandrews@dcr.net Digital Crescent, Frankfort, KY ----------- http://www.termfrost.org/ # view;touch;unzip;finger;mount;mv;mv;mv;yes;mv;yes;mv;yes;umount;sleep To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Oct 28 06:36:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA05089 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 06:36:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zappa.dag.net (zappa.dag.net [198.69.84.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA05082 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 06:36:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dag@dag.net) Received: from zappa.dag.net (dag@zappa.dag.net [198.69.84.230]) by zappa.dag.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03845; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:35:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:35:43 -0500 (EST) From: Ed Kern To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG cc: Mike Andrews Subject: Re: Sony SDT-5000 hardware compression? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 27 Oct 1998, Mike Andrews wrote: > I'm having problems making hardware compression work on a Sony SDT-5000 > tape drive, which is supposed to be a DDS-2 drive. 90 meter tapes are > filling up at the 2 gig mark -- I should be able to get at least 3 or so > per tape, since the data I'm backing up is pretty compressible. I've > tried the obvious: Hi. We're running a Sony SDT-7000 DDS-2 tape drive, which (if I recall correctly) is the same drive, but with a faster transport. In our drive, we use 120 meter DDS-2 tapes, and we get 4 gigs uncompressed, and 8 compressed (about 6 gigs in real-world use) using Amanda (and software compression, rather than hardware compression). This doesn't really answer your question, but it might be helpful. Cheers, Ed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Oct 28 06:37:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA05314 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 06:37:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from plains.NoDak.edu (plains.NoDak.edu [134.129.111.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA05309 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 06:37:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tinguely@plains.NoDak.edu) Received: (from tinguely@localhost) by plains.NoDak.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA23620; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:36:33 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:36:33 -0600 (CST) From: Mark Tinguely Message-Id: <199810281436.IAA23620@plains.NoDak.edu> To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, mandrews@termfrost.org Subject: Re: Sony SDT-5000 hardware compression? Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org we have a SONY SDT-5000 tape drive and use DDS-2 (120m) tapes. on level 0 dumps we can backup approxiamtely 7-8GB/tape. is the 2GB limit you are seeing, one large partition or several small backups to the same tape? each backup to tape goes in a seperate tape "file" and the tape uses a big gap between each tape file that will lower the maximum that can be stored on the tape. is data continuing to arrive for the tape so that the tape is capable to keep streaming? --mark. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Oct 28 13:06:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA18736 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:06:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from qix (cabri.obs-besancon.fr [193.52.184.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA18704 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:06:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmz@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jmz@localhost) by qix (8.9.1/8.8.7) id OAA14464; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:23:44 +0100 (MET) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:23:44 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199810281323.OAA14464@qix> X-Authentication-Warning: qix: jmz set sender to jmz@qix using -f From: Jean-Marc Zucconi To: mandrews@termfrost.org CC: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from Mike Andrews on Tue, 27 Oct 1998 23:28:07 -0500 (EST)) Subject: Re: Sony SDT-5000 hardware compression? X-Mailer: Emacs Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>>> Mike Andrews writes: > I'm having problems making hardware compression work on a Sony SDT-5000 > tape drive, which is supposed to be a DDS-2 drive. 90 meter tapes are > filling up at the 2 gig mark -- I should be able to get at least 3 or so You must remove the 'DC' jumper to enable compression (and probably do a power cycle). This is how my SDT5000 worked. From the Sony FAQ: Q: How does one enable or disable compression on the SDT-5000/5200 tape drive? A: Please note the difference between software compression and hardware compression. Software compression is handled by the software external to the drive. Toggling hardware compression can be done by issuing a SCSI Mode Select to the drive or simply by setting a jumper. Please refer to the SDT-5000 Jumper Setting document. A FAX copy of the document can be obtained by calling the Sony FAX Retrieval System at 1-800- 883-7669, document 5761. Jean-Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 29 03:21:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA10801 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 03:21:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from titanium.yy.ics.keio.ac.jp (titanium.yy.ics.keio.ac.jp [131.113.47.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA10796; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 03:21:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sanpei@sanpei.org) Received: from lavender.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp (lavender.yy.ics.keio.ac.jp [131.113.47.22]) by titanium.yy.ics.keio.ac.jp (8.8.8+3.0Wbeta13/3.7W) with ESMTP id UAA13303; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 20:21:27 +0900 (JST) Received: (from sanpei@localhost) by lavender.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp (8.8.8/3.6W) id UAA00571; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 20:21:29 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199810291121.UAA00571@lavender.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp> To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ESS 1868 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:55:40 +0000" <362E585B.8314E1F7@bellatlantic.net> References: <362E585B.8314E1F7@bellatlantic.net> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.28.1 / Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 20:21:28 +0900 From: MIHIRA "Sanpei" Yoshiro Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Anybody tried the pcm driver with the ESS 1868 sound card? The sound > > only comes out of the left channel. Both speakers are working, but with > > the Luigi sound code, sound only comes out of the left speaker. With > > the voxware driver, both speakers work. Maybe a problem with full/half > > duplex? My NOTE-PC has ESS 1868 sound card. It also has same problem :-< If I control Master volume via xmix program(from packages), the sound comes out from both channel!!! But I think volume control(/dev/mix?) of pcm0 for ESS1868 was broken. How about your NOTE-PC?? ---------- Yoshiro MIHIRA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 29 11:41:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10746 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:41:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zephyr.cybercom.net (zephyr.cybercom.net [209.21.146.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10675 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:41:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhuff@cybercom.net) Received: from shell1.cybercom.net (rhuff@shell1.cybercom.net [209.21.136.6]) by zephyr.cybercom.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA23632 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:41:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rhuff@localhost) by shell1.cybercom.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA07401; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:41:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:41:23 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Huff Message-Id: <199810291941.OAA07401@shell1.cybercom.net> To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: DAT drive recommendations X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org My HP DAT drive died recently and I'm looking for a replacements. Particularly, I'd like to hear about experiences with the Seagate Scorpion series. More generally, I'm looking for a robust DDS-1/DC external drive with SCSI-2 interface. Makers and vendors with good warranties will be looked at favorably. Robert Huff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 29 13:52:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA27939 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 13:52:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [207.153.65.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA27930 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 13:52:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA03220 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:52:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:52:53 -0500 (EST) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Gigabit Ethernet drivers? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Any reason we haven't seen drivers on this page: http://www.scl.ameslab.gov/Projects/Gigabit/drivers/PacketEngines.html In the kernel? (Other than the fact that PacketEngines may not make this particular card anymore?) -- | Matthew N. Dodd | 78 280Z | 75 164E | 84 245DL | FreeBSD/NetBSD/Sprite/VMS | | winter@jurai.net | This Space For Rent | ix86,sparc,m68k,pmax,vax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | Are you k-rad elite enough for my webpage? | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 29 17:12:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27905 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:12:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.webspan.net (mail.webspan.net [206.154.70.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA27899 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:12:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from opsys@mail.webspan.net) Received: from orion.webspan.net (orion.webspan.net [206.154.70.5]) by mail.webspan.net (WEBSPAN/970608) with SMTP id UAA04170; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 20:12:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 20:12:06 -0500 (EST) From: Open Systems Networking X-Sender: opsys@orion.webspan.net To: "Matthew N. Dodd" cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Gigabit Ethernet drivers? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 29 Oct 1998, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: > Any reason we haven't seen drivers on this page: > > http://www.scl.ameslab.gov/Projects/Gigabit/drivers/PacketEngines.html I think when I asked about this awhile ago chris had said he was going to update the driver I think sometime in the future and he would be happier with that one. Or something similar. I'm sure he will reply, his original reply to my question about the driver is in the archives somewhere. Chris -- "You both seem to be ignoring the fact that the networking market is driven by so-called 'IT professionals' these days, most of whom can't tell the difference between an ARP and a carp." --Wes Peters ===================================| Open Systems FreeBSD Consulting. FreeBSD 3.0 is available now! | Phone: (402)573-9124 / ICQ # 20016186 -----------------------------------| 3335 N. 103 Plaza, Omaha, NE 68134 FreeBSD: The power to serve! | E-Mail: opsys@open-systems.net http://www.freebsd.org | Consulting, Network Engineering, Security ===================================| http://open-systems.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Oct 29 18:40:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA27676 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:40:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from helser-187-211.res.iastate.edu (helser-187-211.res.iastate.edu [129.186.187.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA27524 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:40:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsmith1@helser-187-211.res.iastate.edu) Received: from helser-187-211.res.iastate.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by helser-187-211.res.iastate.edu (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA16709 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 20:39:11 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bsmith1@helser-187-211.res.iastate.edu) Message-Id: <199810300239.UAA16709@helser-187-211.res.iastate.edu> To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Gigabit Ethernet drivers? Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 20:39:10 -0600 From: "Brian Smith" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >> Any reason we haven't seen drivers on this page: >> >> http://www.scl.ameslab.gov/Projects/Gigabit/drivers/PacketEngines.html > >I think when I asked about this awhile ago chris had said he was going to >update the driver I think sometime in the future and he would be happier >with that one. Or something similar. I'm sure he will reply, his original >reply to my question about the driver is in the archives somewhere. (I work with Chris. I don't think he subscribes to hardware) Chris has been working on Packet Engine's second generation cards in the last month or so... That driver is coming along fairly well. He hasn't had time to work on the older driver yet though... Too many obnoxious class and work obligations... Brian Smith bsmith1@iastate.edu The more one knows, the less one believes -Chinese Fortune Cookie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Oct 30 02:21:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA14563 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 02:21:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA14556 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 02:21:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04306 for freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:21:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:21:09 +0100 (CET) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <199810301021.LAA04306@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Netboot from a 100Mbps PCI card? Newsgroups: list.freebsd-hardware Organization: Administration Heim 3 Reply-To: oliver.fromme@heim3.tu-clausthal.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 RZTUC(3) PL2] Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, We need to netboot a few diskless clients from a server, using FastEthernet PCI network cards (not yet purchased, but we would prefer intel EtherExpress 10/100, or maybe some DEC 21140-based cards). The problem is that /sys/i386/boot/netboot doesn't seem to support _any_ PCI cards. :-( Is someone working on netboot code for any FastEthernet PCI cards, or maybe is there even working code somewehere? Any other hints how to solve the problem? (Of course, we could put a kernel with bootp and NFS support on a floppy and boot with that, but this would not be a real solution to our problem.) Any suggestions or any kind of help is greatly appreciated! Regards Oliver Fromme -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Oct 30 05:48:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA09239 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 05:48:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tango.icnet.ukrpack.net ([195.230.139.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA09232 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 05:48:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from og@icnet.ukrpack.net) Received: from localhost (og@localhost) by tango.icnet.ukrpack.net (8.9.1/8.9.1-ICnet-MailHub) with ESMTP id PAA22012 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:48:08 +0200 (EET) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:48:08 +0200 (EET) From: Oleg Galenok To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ASUStek motherboard. In-Reply-To: <199810161447.KAA12216@datacompusa.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there! Did anybody install 2.2.5-RELEASE (or 3.0-RELEASE) on box, based on ASUStek P2L97-S board, with an onboard AIC7880 SCSI controller, successfully? Thanks. ================================================================ Best regards, Mailto: og@icnet.ukrpack.net Oleg Galenok Office: +380(03249)41399 ================================================================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Oct 30 06:16:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA13254 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 06:16:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from med.osd.mil (dsserver.med.osd.mil [161.14.8.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA13232 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 06:16:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rpotts@med.osd.mil) Received: from ae1970.med.osd.mil by med.osd.mil with SMTP (5.65/25-eef) id AA09289; Fri, 30 Oct 98 09:16:05 -0500 From: "Ross Potts, CON, EDS/D-SIDDOMS" Message-Id: <9810300916.ZM-149291@161.14.216.105> Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:16:05 -0800 In-Reply-To: MIHIRA "Sanpei" Yoshiro "Re: ESS 1868" (Oct 29, 8:21pm) References: <362E585B.8314E1F7@bellatlantic.net> <199810291121.UAA00571@lavender.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp> X-Mailer: ZM-Win (3.2.1 11Sep94) To: MIHIRA "Sanpei" Yoshiro , hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ESS 1868 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hmmnn.... I have a Two Year old Compaq Presario running Fbsd 2.2.7. It is one of those crappy all-in-one designs. What the heck was I thinking? Any ways, It has a built-in sound chip, ESS made it, but I can remember the model. My bigest problem is working thru the built-in numbers and getting FBSD to recognize it at all! AAhh, I'll probably ask for a sound card for X-Mas! -- Potts, Ross A. Internet : Ross.Potts@med.osd.mil EDS-D/SIDDOMS Phone : (703) 824-7601 Skyline Two, Suite 1200 Beeper : (888) 687-2709 5113 Leesburg Pike, FAX : (703) 824-4155 Falls Church, VA 22041 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Oct 30 08:15:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA25594 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 08:15:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [207.153.65.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA25588 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 08:15:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA17833; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:14:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:14:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: Open Systems Networking cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Gigabit Ethernet drivers? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 29 Oct 1998, Open Systems Networking wrote: > I think when I asked about this awhile ago chris had said he was going to > update the driver I think sometime in the future and he would be happier > with that one. Or something similar. I'm sure he will reply, his original > reply to my question about the driver is in the archives somewhere. It looks like the newest version of the GNIC1 (yellowfin) is GPLed anyway. :/ -- | Matthew N. Dodd | 78 280Z | 75 164E | 84 245DL | FreeBSD/NetBSD/Sprite/VMS | | winter@jurai.net | This Space For Rent | ix86,sparc,m68k,pmax,vax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | Are you k-rad elite enough for my webpage? | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Oct 30 08:39:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA28019 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 08:39:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA28014 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 08:39:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA00403; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 08:38:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199810301638.IAA00403@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Oleg Galenok cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ASUStek motherboard. In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:48:08 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 08:38:31 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hi there! > > Did anybody install 2.2.5-RELEASE (or 3.0-RELEASE) on box, based on > ASUStek P2L97-S board, with an onboard AIC7880 SCSI controller, > successfully? We're using that board and variations here in freefall, hub and bento, all on the 2.2.x family. Yes, it works fine. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Oct 30 14:13:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01831 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:13:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from snake.highway.com.py (snake.highway.com.py [198.67.141.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01825 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:13:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin@highway.com.py) Received: from khalil (gibran.highway.com.py [198.67.141.6]) by snake.highway.com.py (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id TAA16713 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 19:12:28 GMT Message-Id: <199810301912.TAA16713@snake.highway.com.py> From: "Richard J. Portillo E." To: Subject: Hi..!!! Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 19:18:45 -0800 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi World.. I need to know, how can I do for configure a 3c905b card of 3com, in a machine whit the release 2.2.7 Somebody know some thing about this... Richard J. Portillo E. admin@highway.com.py PD: Sorry.... my english is sooooo bad... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Oct 30 14:36:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA03964 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:36:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from k6n1.znh.org (dialup16.gaffaneys.com [208.155.161.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03950 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:36:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zach@gaffaneys.com) Received: (from zach@localhost) by k6n1.znh.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA24044 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 22:37:35 GMT (envelope-from zach) Message-ID: <19981030163734.A882@znh.org> Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 16:37:34 -0600 From: Zach Heilig To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Digital 21140 based card... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The exact card I'm looking at (haven't bought it yet): digital 21140-AC DC1036DA 21-43864-01 (C) (M) DEC 1995 515658-11 A 9641 0D912E (Cogent EM110 TX/T4 PCI Uc) I see these might be supported, but there are still some questions: 1) I see on line 374 of dc21040reg.h, there is the constant: TULIP_COGENT_EM100TX_ID .. Shouldn't this be TULIP_COGENT_EM110TX_ID? I see both used, EM110_TX on lines 2272 and 2273 of if_de.c, and EM100_TX on line 374 of dc21040reg.h and line 2269 of if_de.c. 2) Are these things any good? For example two computers with occasionally heavy NFS traffic between them. Or should I look somewhere else entirely? -- Zach Heilig If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have to at least consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family Anatidę on our hands (Douglas Adams -- Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Oct 30 23:25:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA23113 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 23:25:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from math.berkeley.edu (math.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.183.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA23108 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 23:25:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@math.berkeley.edu) Received: (from dan@localhost) by math.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA18931; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 23:25:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 23:25:39 -0800 (PST) From: dan@math.berkeley.edu (Dan Strick) Message-Id: <199810310725.XAA18931@math.berkeley.edu> To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: PCMCIA ethernet cards Cc: dan@math.berkeley.edu Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The FreeBSD HARDWARE.TXT files says that FreeBSD supports two kinds of PCMCIA ethernet cards: the 3com 3c589 PCMCIA card and some "IBM/National Semiconductor" PCMCIA cards. It doesn't say which "IBM/National Semiconductor" cards are supported. Apparently the IBM EtherJet card isn't one of them. Could someone explain exactly which cards are supported and perhaps suggest other cards for which drivers are available? Cards supported by the FreeBSD bootstrap/installation floppy are preferred. Thanks, Dan Strick dan@math.berkeley.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Oct 31 03:02:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA09334 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 03:02:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from reliam.teaser.fr (reliam.teaser.fr [194.51.80.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA09329 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 03:02:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from son@teaser.fr) Received: from teaser.fr (ppp1087-ft.teaser.fr [194.206.156.40]) by reliam.teaser.fr (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA00521; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 12:02:07 +0100 (MET) Received: (from son@localhost) by teaser.fr (8.9.1/8.8.5) id NAA17431; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 13:03:13 GMT Message-ID: <19981031130311.36645@breizh.prism.uvsq.fr> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 13:03:11 +0000 From: Nicolas Souchu To: Steve Friedrich Cc: "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" , Marc Bouget Subject: Re: Hardware monitoring capabilities References: <199810280022.TAA23231@laker.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81e In-Reply-To: <199810280022.TAA23231@laker.net>; from Steve Friedrich on Tue, Oct 27, 1998 at 07:21:10PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD breizh 3.0-BETA FreeBSD 3.0-BETA Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Oct 27, 1998 at 07:21:10PM -0500, Steve Friedrich wrote: >>>Is it possible to read these values from freebsd? If so, has anyone >> >>Not yet. The driver we'll be available before the end of the year, I >>hope. Actually, in a week or two, starting this afternoon ;) >> >>Could user stuff be your part of the work? > >Sure, I'll sign up for that... >Unix systems measure "uptime" in years, Winblows measures it in minutes. > Cool. Did you get the LMxx datasheets? Your code will be reused rapidly for the Winbond monitoring chips. Are you planing to write some graphical interface? Nicolas. -- nsouch@teaser.fr / nsouch@freebsd.org FreeBSD - Turning PCs into workstations - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Oct 31 10:53:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00593 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 10:53:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00587 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 10:53:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@austin.polstra.com) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA22693 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 10:53:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp) Message-Id: <199810311853.KAA22693@austin.polstra.com> To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Mixing 8- and 16-bit shared memory ISA cards Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 10:53:15 -0800 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a question for you old farts who still remember ISA. I'm trying to turn an old 486 box into an ethernet <-> frame relay router. It has a 16-bit SMC 8013 card with shared memory, and also an 8-bit ET Inc. card with shared memory. I have this vague recollection that you can run into problems with a mix like that in an ISA machine. In particular, I seem to recall something along the lines that each 128K chunk of the address space (a0000-bffff, c0000-dffff, e0000-fffff) has to do either all 8-bit accesses or all 16-bit accesses, but not a mix of the two. Is that correct? Is it true for FreeBSD systems, or was it just an MS-DOS thing? Is such a mix guaranteed not to work, or does it just sometimes not work? Also, is the address chunk e0000-effff generally available on ISA 486 systems (non-IBM)? I know it used to be reserved for the Basic ROM on ancient IBM machines. Finally, what about the range a0000-bffff that is generally used by video cards? The docs for my card (an old 1 MB Orchid ProDesigner ISA card) say that it uses that whole range. But I am only using it in text mode with the syscons driver. Will it still take up that whole address range in that case, or will part of the address space be free for other cards? John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." -- H. L. Mencken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Oct 31 11:37:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA05688 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 11:37:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05683 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 11:37:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA14461; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 12:37:02 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA27436; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 12:37:01 -0700 Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 12:37:01 -0700 Message-Id: <199810311937.MAA27436@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: John Polstra Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mixing 8- and 16-bit shared memory ISA cards In-Reply-To: <199810311853.KAA22693@austin.polstra.com> References: <199810311853.KAA22693@austin.polstra.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I have a question for you old farts who still remember ISA. I'm > trying to turn an old 486 box into an ethernet <-> frame relay router. > It has a 16-bit SMC 8013 card with shared memory, and also an 8-bit > ET Inc. card with shared memory. I have this vague recollection that > you can run into problems with a mix like that in an ISA machine. FWIW, I ran this same setup (literrally!) on my 486 box until recently, using the same model ethernet card and the *same* ET card with no problems. (I'll leave the rest of the questions unanswered since I don't know about them...) nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Oct 31 13:06:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA17269 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 13:06:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from the.oneinsane.net (the.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA17264 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 13:06:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from insane@the.oneinsane.net) Received: (from insane@localhost) by the.oneinsane.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) id NAA12451; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 13:05:10 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19981031130509.A12362@oneinsane.net> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 13:05:09 -0800 From: "Ron 'The Insane One' Rosson" To: Nate Williams , John Polstra Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mixing 8- and 16-bit shared memory ISA cards Reply-To: insane@oneinsane.net References: <199810311853.KAA22693@austin.polstra.com> <199810311937.MAA27436@mt.sri.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199810311937.MAA27436@mt.sri.com>; from Nate Williams on Sat, Oct 31, 1998 at 12:37:01PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD the.oneinsane.net 2.2.7-STABLE X-Opinion: What you read here is my IMHO X-Disclaimer: I am a firm believer in RTFM X-WWW: http://www.oneinsane.net Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, I just put together the exact same thing.. It is working sweet. No wierd problems and stable and quick. The only thing I am lacking is a good firewall set.. Oh well till then I will use the rules I have. TTYL Ron On Sat, Oct 31, 1998 at 12:37:01PM -0700, Nate Williams wrote: > > I have a question for you old farts who still remember ISA. I'm > > trying to turn an old 486 box into an ethernet <-> frame relay router. > > It has a 16-bit SMC 8013 card with shared memory, and also an 8-bit > > ET Inc. card with shared memory. I have this vague recollection that > > you can run into problems with a mix like that in an ISA machine. > > FWIW, I ran this same setup (literrally!) on my 486 box until recently, > using the same model ethernet card and the *same* ET card with no > problems. > > (I'll leave the rest of the questions unanswered since I don't know > about them...) > > > > nate > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... The InSaNe One rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was null and void ------------------------------------------------------------------- It's so nice to be insane, nobody asks you to explain. [----------------------------System Info---------------------------] 1:03PM up 1 day, 12:40, 2 users, load averages: 0.55, 0.68, 0.67 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Oct 31 13:29:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA19362 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 13:29:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from reliam.teaser.fr (reliam.teaser.fr [194.51.80.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA19355 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 13:29:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from son@teaser.fr) Received: from teaser.fr (ppp1087-ft.teaser.fr [194.206.156.40]) by reliam.teaser.fr (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id WAA26391 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 22:28:55 +0100 (MET) Received: (from son@localhost) by teaser.fr (8.9.1/8.8.5) id OAA18389; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 14:15:19 GMT Message-ID: <19981031141519.25962@breizh.prism.uvsq.fr> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 14:15:19 +0000 From: Nicolas Souchu To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: UMC datasheets?! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81e X-Operating-System: FreeBSD breizh 3.0-BETA FreeBSD 3.0-BETA Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there, I would be glad to get datasheets for the UMC ITE86xx superIO chipsets. I could not find anything on the web about them :( We need it for the FreeBSD ppbus(4) system to improve chipset detection and configuration, and bring ECP support to the printer driver. Any pointer? Thanks in advance, Nicolas. -- nsouch@teaser.fr / nsouch@freebsd.org FreeBSD - Turning PCs into workstations - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Oct 31 16:14:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09081 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 16:14:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA09076 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 16:14:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id KAA04558; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 10:44:02 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id KAA18480; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 10:44:01 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981101104400.A28493@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 10:44:00 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: John Polstra , hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mixing 8- and 16-bit shared memory ISA cards References: <199810311853.KAA22693@austin.polstra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199810311853.KAA22693@austin.polstra.com>; from John Polstra on Sat, Oct 31, 1998 at 10:53:15AM -0800 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Saturday, 31 October 1998 at 10:53:15 -0800, John Polstra wrote: > I have a question for you old farts who still remember ISA. That's starting to date us, is it? > I'm trying to turn an old 486 box into an ethernet <-> frame relay > router. It has a 16-bit SMC 8013 card with shared memory, and also > an 8-bit ET Inc. card with shared memory. I have this vague > recollection that you can run into problems with a mix like that in > an ISA machine. In particular, I seem to recall something along the > lines that each 128K chunk of the address space (a0000-bffff, > c0000-dffff, e0000-fffff) has to do either all 8-bit accesses or all > 16-bit accesses, but not a mix of the two. Yes, there was something like that, and I think you've remembered it pretty well. > Is that correct? Is it true for FreeBSD systems, or was it just an > MS-DOS thing? Is such a mix guaranteed not to work, or does it just > sometimes not work? IIRC (and that's not sure), it was a hardware limitation with 286 (and maybe 386) machines. It's quite conceivable that it doesn't apply to more modern machines. > Also, is the address chunk e0000-effff generally available on ISA > 486 systems (non-IBM)? I know it used to be reserved for the Basic > ROM on ancient IBM machines. I think you'll have to check that for yourself. Many motherboards mirrored the system BIOS there. > Finally, what about the range a0000-bffff that is generally used by > video cards? The docs for my card (an old 1 MB Orchid ProDesigner > ISA card) say that it uses that whole range. But I am only using it > in text mode with the syscons driver. Will it still take up that > whole address range in that case, or will part of the address space > be free for other cards? No, it only takes up some of it. I forget which half; again, read and see. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Oct 31 17:47:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA17529 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 17:47:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles215.castles.com [208.214.165.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA17511 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 17:47:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA01449; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 15:59:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199810312359.PAA01449@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: oliver.fromme@heim3.tu-clausthal.de cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Netboot from a 100Mbps PCI card? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:21:09 +0100." <199810301021.LAA04306@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 15:59:07 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > We need to netboot a few diskless clients from a server, using > FastEthernet PCI network cards (not yet purchased, but we would > prefer intel EtherExpress 10/100, or maybe some DEC 21140-based > cards). > > The problem is that /sys/i386/boot/netboot doesn't seem to > support _any_ PCI cards. :-( No, it doesn't. > Is someone working on netboot code for any FastEthernet PCI > cards, or maybe is there even working code somewehere? > Any other hints how to solve the problem? Eric Hearnes (erich@freebsd.org) has code for the Intel ExtherExpress Pro/100. You can also get boot PROMs for almost any ethernet card from InCom at www.incom.de. Their product is pretty good, and not too expensive; you shouldn't have any trouble booting FreeBSD with this, although I haven't tried their demo again for a few months. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Oct 31 19:54:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA02941 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 19:54:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from implode.root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA02935 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 19:54:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from xroot@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA01865; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 19:55:32 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811010355.TAA01865@implode.root.com> To: Greg Lehey cc: John Polstra , hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mixing 8- and 16-bit shared memory ISA cards In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 01 Nov 1998 10:44:00 +1030." <19981101104400.A28493@freebie.lemis.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 19:55:32 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >> I'm trying to turn an old 486 box into an ethernet <-> frame relay >> router. It has a 16-bit SMC 8013 card with shared memory, and also >> an 8-bit ET Inc. card with shared memory. I have this vague >> recollection that you can run into problems with a mix like that in >> an ISA machine. In particular, I seem to recall something along the >> lines that each 128K chunk of the address space (a0000-bffff, >> c0000-dffff, e0000-fffff) has to do either all 8-bit accesses or all >> 16-bit accesses, but not a mix of the two. > >Yes, there was something like that, and I think you've remembered it >pretty well. > >> Is that correct? Is it true for FreeBSD systems, or was it just an >> MS-DOS thing? Is such a mix guaranteed not to work, or does it just >> sometimes not work? > >IIRC (and that's not sure), it was a hardware limitation with 286 (and >maybe 386) machines. It's quite conceivable that it doesn't apply to >more modern machines. It affects all machines with ISA busses, not just early x86. The ed driver goes to great pains, however, to attempt to work around this problem by putting 16bit cards into 16bit memory mode only while actually accessing them. The rest of the time they are left in 8bit mode. So you should be able to mix them in the same 128K region in this specific case, but GENERALLY you cannot. -DG David Greenman Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Oct 31 20:32:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA06558 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 20:32:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA06553 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 20:32:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@austin.polstra.com) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA24975; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 20:31:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp) Message-Id: <199811010431.UAA24975@austin.polstra.com> To: dg@root.com cc: Greg Lehey , hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mixing 8- and 16-bit shared memory ISA cards In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 31 Oct 1998 19:55:32 PST." <199811010355.TAA01865@implode.root.com> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 20:31:07 -0800 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > It affects all machines with ISA busses, not just early x86. The ed > driver goes to great pains, however, to attempt to work around this > problem by putting 16bit cards into 16bit memory mode only while > actually accessing them. The rest of the time they are left in 8bit > mode. So you should be able to mix them in the same 128K region in > this specific case, but GENERALLY you cannot. Thanks for the info! That explains why I didn't see problems when I "should" have. Speaking of such matters ... The manual for my SMC 8013 card says that the card can be put into either an 8-bit or a 16-bit slot. (It's a 16-bit card.) But when I tried putting it into an 8-bit slot, and set flags=0x2 to force 8-bit mode, the probe said something like "failed to clear shared memory." John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." -- H. L. Mencken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Oct 31 20:47:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA08114 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 20:47:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from implode.root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA08107 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 20:47:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from xroot@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA02906; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 20:48:46 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811010448.UAA02906@implode.root.com> To: John Polstra cc: Greg Lehey , hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mixing 8- and 16-bit shared memory ISA cards In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 31 Oct 1998 20:31:07 PST." <199811010431.UAA24975@austin.polstra.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 20:48:46 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >> It affects all machines with ISA busses, not just early x86. The ed >> driver goes to great pains, however, to attempt to work around this >> problem by putting 16bit cards into 16bit memory mode only while >> actually accessing them. The rest of the time they are left in 8bit >> mode. So you should be able to mix them in the same 128K region in >> this specific case, but GENERALLY you cannot. > >Thanks for the info! That explains why I didn't see problems when I >"should" have. > >Speaking of such matters ... The manual for my SMC 8013 card says that >the card can be put into either an 8-bit or a 16-bit slot. (It's a >16-bit card.) But when I tried putting it into an 8-bit slot, and set >flags=0x2 to force 8-bit mode, the probe said something like "failed >to clear shared memory." Yeah, don't do that. :-) -DG David Greenman Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Oct 31 20:55:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA08991 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 20:55:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA08986 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 20:55:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id PAA05490; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 15:25:42 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id PAA19183; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 15:25:39 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981101152539.R28493@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 15:25:39 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: dg@root.com Cc: John Polstra , hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mixing 8- and 16-bit shared memory ISA cards References: <19981101104400.A28493@freebie.lemis.com> <199811010355.TAA01865@implode.root.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199811010355.TAA01865@implode.root.com>; from David Greenman on Sat, Oct 31, 1998 at 07:55:32PM -0800 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Saturday, 31 October 1998 at 19:55:32 -0800, David Greenman wrote: >>> I'm trying to turn an old 486 box into an ethernet <-> frame relay >>> router. It has a 16-bit SMC 8013 card with shared memory, and also >>> an 8-bit ET Inc. card with shared memory. I have this vague >>> recollection that you can run into problems with a mix like that in >>> an ISA machine. In particular, I seem to recall something along the >>> lines that each 128K chunk of the address space (a0000-bffff, >>> c0000-dffff, e0000-fffff) has to do either all 8-bit accesses or all >>> 16-bit accesses, but not a mix of the two. >> >> Yes, there was something like that, and I think you've remembered it >> pretty well. >> >>> Is that correct? Is it true for FreeBSD systems, or was it just an >>> MS-DOS thing? Is such a mix guaranteed not to work, or does it just >>> sometimes not work? >> >> IIRC (and that's not sure), it was a hardware limitation with 286 (and >> maybe 386) machines. It's quite conceivable that it doesn't apply to >> more modern machines. > > It affects all machines with ISA busses, not just early x86. What's the reason for it? Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Oct 31 21:02:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA09578 for freebsd-hardware-outgoing; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 21:02:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from implode.root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA09566 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 21:02:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from xroot@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA03108; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 21:03:38 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811010503.VAA03108@implode.root.com> To: Greg Lehey cc: John Polstra , hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mixing 8- and 16-bit shared memory ISA cards In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 01 Nov 1998 15:25:39 +1030." <19981101152539.R28493@freebie.lemis.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 21:03:38 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >> It affects all machines with ISA busses, not just early x86. > >What's the reason for it? Reason? Because it's PC hardware, that's why. :-) I think it has something to do with timing of the top 8bits of (the 24bit) address decoding and when the 8/16 bit select line is valid. The result is that the 8/16 bit selection ends up being segmented into 128KB chunks. ...something like that. -DG David Greenman Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message