From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Jan 14 10:03:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01974 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:03:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmb) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:03:37 -0800 (PST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199801141803.KAA01974@hub.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-hubs-outgoing@freebsd.org Subject: Call for mail-relays When Hub died we lost the mailertable. We are looking for well-connected hosts to serve as mail-relays for the FreeBSD mailing lists. Host requirements: 100MB /var/spool/mqueue Excellent DNS support (MX records and DNS servers) Very good connections to national networks 586-100MHZ and 64MB minimum. thanks, jmb -- Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Core Team, Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD--The Power to Serve JMB193 http://www.freebsd.org/ PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Jan 14 10:44:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07258 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:44:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07251; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:44:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmb) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199801141844.KAA07251@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Call for mail-relays In-Reply-To: <199801141823.UAA03945@greenpeace.grondar.za> from Mark Murray at "Jan 14, 98 08:23:28 pm" To: mark@grondar.za (Mark Murray) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:44:13 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-hubs X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Please re-instate the following relays for .za: > > iafrica.com mail-spool.iafrica.com > *.iafrica.com mail-spool.iafrica.com > grondar.za mail-spool.iafrica.com > *.grondar.za mail-spool.iafrica.com > *.za mail-relay.za.freebsd.org i should have asked each of you to state which type of smtp connection you can support. smtp8 esmtp smtp etc..... if you all would be so kind as to format the data as well, that would be great! (wow...i am lazy) example: *.iafrica.com smtp:mail-spool.iafrica.com jmb From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Jan 14 11:47:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: from sendero.simon-shapiro.org ([206.190.148.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA15039 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:47:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@sendero-fxp0.simon-shapiro.org) Received: (qmail 589 invoked by uid 1000); 14 Jan 1998 19:53:27 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3-alpha-010198 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199801141803.KAA01974@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:53:27 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Organization: The Simon Shapiro Foundation Sender: shimon@sendero-fxp0.simon-shapiro.org From: Simon Shapiro To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: RE: Call for mail-relays Cc: freebsd-hubs-outgoing@FreeBSD.ORG On 14-Jan-98 Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > > When Hub died we lost the mailertable. > We are looking for well-connected hosts to serve as mail-relays > for the FreeBSD mailing lists. > > Host requirements: > 100MB /var/spool/mqueue > Excellent DNS support (MX records and DNS servers) > Very good connections to national networks > 586-100MHZ and 64MB minimum. What is ``very good connection''? I have a T1 that goes to a local carrier and from there diretly (via 300mbit line to PacBell NAP in SF, and from there over FDDI to MAe-West. I can be of service, with about 1/2 that capacity for a while. ---------- Sincerely Yours, Simon Shapiro Shimon@Simon-Shapiro.ORG Voice: 503.799.2313 From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Jan 14 12:24:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA19423; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 12:24:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmb) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199801142024.MAA19423@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Call for mail-relays In-Reply-To: from Simon Shapiro at "Jan 14, 98 11:53:27 am" To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 12:24:32 -0800 (PST) Cc: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hubs-outgoing@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > On 14-Jan-98 Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > > > > When Hub died we lost the mailertable. > > We are looking for well-connected hosts to serve as mail-relays > > for the FreeBSD mailing lists. > > > > Host requirements: > > 100MB /var/spool/mqueue > > Excellent DNS support (MX records and DNS servers) > > Very good connections to national networks > > 586-100MHZ and 64MB minimum. > > What is ``very good connection''? I have a T1 that goes to a local carrier > and from there diretly (via 300mbit line to PacBell NAP in SF, and from > there over FDDI to MAe-West. I can be of service, with about 1/2 that > capacity for a while. i would prefer more than one T1, two or more T1's is really what i want.....but beggars cant be too chossy, let me se what else pops up ;) jmb From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Jan 14 15:15:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: from frmug.org (frmug-gw.frmug.org [193.56.58.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12788; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:15:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by frmug.org (8.8.8/frmug-2.2/nospam) with UUCP id AAA05240; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 00:15:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.8.8/keltia-2.13/nospam) id XAA05786; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:39:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roberto) Message-ID: <19980114233935.55311@keltia.freenix.fr> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:39:35 +0100 From: Ollivier Robert To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" , freebsd-hubs-outgoing@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Call for mail-relays References: <199801141803.KAA01974@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88.13i In-Reply-To: <199801141803.KAA01974@hub.freebsd.org>; from Jonathan M. Bresler on Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 10:03:37AM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT ctm#3963 AMD-K6 MMX @ 208 MHz According to Jonathan M. Bresler: > When Hub died we lost the mailertable. > We are looking for well-connected hosts to serve as mail-relays > for the FreeBSD mailing lists. mail-relay.fr.freebsd.org has been relay for the following domains for more than two years so I think it qualifies again :-) .fr .fr.net .fdn.org > Host requirements: > 100MB /var/spool/mqueue No problem. > Excellent DNS support (MX records and DNS servers) No problem either. > Very good connections to national networks We have a very good connectivity to many sites (mainly research) and average for others. > 586-100MHZ and 64MB minimum. Sorry, it is an HP machine (but doing fairly well :-)). -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 3.0-CURRENT #2: Thu Jan 8 00:49:00 CET 1998 From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Jan 14 16:11:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA20406; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:11:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmb) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199801150011.QAA20406@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Call for mail-relays In-Reply-To: <19980114233935.55311@keltia.freenix.fr> from Ollivier Robert at "Jan 14, 98 11:39:35 pm" To: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:11:38 -0800 (PST) Cc: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hubs-outgoing@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > According to Jonathan M. Bresler: > > When Hub died we lost the mailertable. > > We are looking for well-connected hosts to serve as mail-relays > > for the FreeBSD mailing lists. > > mail-relay.fr.freebsd.org has been relay for the following domains for more > than two years so I think it qualifies again :-) > > .fr > .fr.net > .fdn.org done....smtp? smtp8? esmtp? > > 586-100MHZ and 64MB minimum. shhhh...dont tell anyone. jmb From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Jan 14 23:21:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: from frmug.org (frmug-gw.frmug.org [193.56.58.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA08162; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:21:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by frmug.org (8.8.8/frmug-2.2/nospam) with UUCP id IAA09164; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 08:21:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from roberto@localhost) by keltia.freenix.fr (8.8.8/keltia-2.13/nospam) id IAA08106; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 08:03:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roberto) Message-ID: <19980115080354.04139@keltia.freenix.fr> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 08:03:54 +0100 From: Ollivier Robert To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Cc: freebsd-hubs-outgoing@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Call for mail-relays References: <19980114233935.55311@keltia.freenix.fr> <199801150011.QAA20406@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88.13i In-Reply-To: <199801150011.QAA20406@hub.freebsd.org>; from Jonathan M. Bresler on Wed, Jan 14, 1998 at 04:11:38PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT ctm#3963 AMD-K6 MMX @ 208 MHz According to Jonathan M. Bresler: > done....smtp? smtp8? esmtp? smtp8 of course. Use "smtp8" everywhere please. It was like that before. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 3.0-CURRENT #2: Thu Jan 8 00:49:00 CET 1998 From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Jan 15 06:56:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA27435; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 06:56:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmb) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199801151456.GAA27435@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Call for mail-relays In-Reply-To: <19980114233935.55311@keltia.freenix.fr> from Ollivier Robert at "Jan 14, 98 11:39:35 pm" To: roberto@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 06:56:39 -0800 (PST) Cc: jmb@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hubs-outgoing@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ollivier Robert wrote: > According to Jonathan M. Bresler: > > When Hub died we lost the mailertable. > > We are looking for well-connected hosts to serve as mail-relays > > for the FreeBSD mailing lists. > > mail-relay.fr.freebsd.org has been relay for the following domains for more > than two years so I think it qualifies again :-) > > .fr > .fr.net > .fdn.org done. jmb From owner-freebsd-hubs Thu Jan 15 07:11:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA29332 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 07:11:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pagedaemon.int.tele.dk (fw1.inet.tele.dk [193.163.158.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA29312; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 07:11:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jesper@skriver.dk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pagedaemon.int.tele.dk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA01466; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:10:28 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:10:28 +0100 (MET) From: Jesper Skriver X-Sender: jesper@pagedaemon.int.tele.dk To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" cc: freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Call for mail-relays In-Reply-To: <199801151456.GAA27435@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > > > When Hub died we lost the mailertable. > > > We are looking for well-connected hosts to serve as mail-relays > > > for the FreeBSD mailing lists. mail-in.inet.tele.dk can relay for *.dk *.DK.net hub.freebsd.org should be able to relay trough it. /Jesper -- Jesper Skriver (JS249-RIPE), Network manager Tele Danmark Internet (TDI1-RIPE) One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone bind them. From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Jan 16 02:33:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA04921 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 02:33:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pagedaemon.int.tele.dk (fw1.inet.tele.dk [193.163.158.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA04915 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 02:33:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jesper@skriver.dk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pagedaemon.int.tele.dk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA05559 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:29:27 +0100 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:29:27 +0100 (MET) From: Jesper Skriver X-Sender: jesper@pagedaemon.int.tele.dk Reply-To: Jesper Skriver To: freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: mirror keeps crashes Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I run ftp.dk.freebsd.org, and I have a problem, my mirror keeps crashing, probably due to the wast number of files. Does anybody have a working mirror.conf I can get a copy of? I'm thinking of splitting the mirror in multiple sessions, this way lowering the number of files in each ... /Jesper -- Jesper Skriver (JS249-RIPE), Network manager Tele Danmark Internet (TDI1-RIPE) One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone bind them. From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Jan 16 02:44:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA05475 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 02:44:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mordor.plig.net (keet@PLiG.net [194.88.142.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA05467 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 02:44:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keet@mordor.plig.net) Received: (from keet@localhost) by mordor.plig.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) id KAA21531; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:47:00 GMT From: Christiaan Keet Message-Id: <199801161047.KAA21531@mordor.plig.net> Subject: Re: mirror keeps crashes In-Reply-To: from Jesper Skriver at "Jan 16, 98 10:29:27 am" To: jesper@skriver.dk Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:47:00 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG X-NCC-RegID: uk.netlink X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jesper Skriver wrote: > I run ftp.dk.freebsd.org, and I have a problem, my mirror keeps crashing, > probably due to the wast number of files. > > Does anybody have a working mirror.conf I can get a copy of? I'm thinking > of splitting the mirror in multiple sessions, this way lowering the number > of files in each ... *nod* I had the same problem initially when I started up ftp4.uk.freebsd.org. mirror.pl runs out of memory on most sane-spec systems. I wrote a little 'frontend' for mirror.pl that logs onto the remote system, gets a list of remote directories under the root dir and creates a local config file for mirror to use, treating each remote directory as a seperate package. Works like a charm - Christiaan -- Christiaan Keet keet@plig.net +44 171 831 1666 From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Jan 16 03:44:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA08426 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 03:44:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zed.ludd.luth.se (zed.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA08409 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 03:43:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ragge@ludd.luth.se) Received: from father.ludd.luth.se (ragge@father.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.18]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03970; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 12:43:51 +0100 From: Anders Magnusson Received: (ragge@localhost) by father.ludd.luth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) id MAA03242; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 12:43:50 +0100 Message-Id: <199801161143.MAA03242@father.ludd.luth.se> Subject: Re: mirror keeps crashes To: keet@mordor.plig.net (Christiaan Keet) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 12:43:50 +0100 (MET) Cc: jesper@skriver.dk, freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199801161047.KAA21531@mordor.plig.net> from Christiaan Keet at "Jan 16, 98 10:47:00 am" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL15 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Jesper Skriver wrote: > > I run ftp.dk.freebsd.org, and I have a problem, my mirror keeps crashing, > > probably due to the wast number of files. > > > > Does anybody have a working mirror.conf I can get a copy of? I'm thinking > > of splitting the mirror in multiple sessions, this way lowering the number > > of files in each ... > > *nod* I had the same problem initially when I started up ftp4.uk.freebsd.org. > > mirror.pl runs out of memory on most sane-spec systems. I wrote a little > 'frontend' for mirror.pl that logs onto the remote system, gets a list of > remote directories under the root dir and creates a local config file for > mirror to use, treating each remote directory as a seperate package. > There are also a rather good mirror program written in C available; it fetches files continously instead of doing a complete list to compare first. It is located at ftp.luth.se:/pub/unix/mirror/spegla-0.92.tar.gz and is very easy to configure. Actually; a friend of mine wrote it when we got into trouble with the perl scripts :-) -- Ragge From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Jan 16 08:13:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA23841 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:13:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ve7tcp.ampr.org (root@ve7tcp.ampr.org [198.161.92.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA23836 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:12:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lyndon@ve7tcp.ampr.org) Received: from localhost.ampr.org (lyndon@localhost.ampr.org [127.0.0.1]) by ve7tcp.ampr.org (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA26188; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:11:56 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199801161611.JAA26188@ve7tcp.ampr.org> X-Authentication-Warning: ve7tcp.ampr.org: lyndon@localhost.ampr.org [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 To: Christiaan Keet cc: freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mirror keeps crashes In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:47:00 GMT." <199801161047.KAA21531@mordor.plig.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:11:56 -0700 From: Lyndon Nerenberg Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Jesper Skriver wrote: > > I run ftp.dk.freebsd.org, and I have a problem, my mirror keeps crashing, > > probably due to the wast number of files. No, it's hitting a kernel-enforced per-process VM limit. There's a kernel parameter you need to bump up: options MAXDSIZ="536870912UL" #512 MB This ups the per-process VM limit to 512MB. You still might have to fiddle with your shells limit command as well. --lyndon From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Jan 16 08:16:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA24023 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:16:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mordor.plig.net (keet@PLiG.net [194.88.142.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA24008 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:16:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keet@mordor.plig.net) Received: (from keet@localhost) by mordor.plig.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) id QAA26009; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:18:22 GMT From: Christiaan Keet Message-Id: <199801161618.QAA26009@mordor.plig.net> Subject: Re: mirror keeps crashes In-Reply-To: <199801161611.JAA26188@ve7tcp.ampr.org> from Lyndon Nerenberg at "Jan 16, 98 09:11:56 am" To: lyndon@ve7tcp.ampr.org (Lyndon Nerenberg) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:18:22 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG X-NCC-RegID: uk.netlink X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > > > I run ftp.dk.freebsd.org, and I have a problem, my mirror keeps crashing, > > > probably due to the wast number of files. > > No, it's hitting a kernel-enforced per-process VM limit. There's a > kernel parameter you need to bump up: > > options MAXDSIZ="536870912UL" #512 MB > > This ups the per-process VM limit to 512MB. You still might have to > fiddle with your shells limit command as well. Hmmm tried that at the time, and even with MAXDSIZE set to large values such as that it still did the same. It's s a bit silly running processes that get that big anyway I think. - Christiaan -- Christiaan Keet keet@plig.net +44 171 831 1666 From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Jan 16 08:52:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA27111 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:52:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jealousy.icparc.ic.ac.uk (jealousy.doc.ic.ac.uk [146.169.2.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA27061 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:52:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lmjm@icparc.ic.ac.uk) Received: from icparc.ic.ac.uk [155.198.177.28] by jealousy.icparc.ic.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.73 #1) id 0xtEyh-00008L-00; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:50:43 +0000 Message-ID: <34BF8FE2.795037E1@icparc.ic.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:50:42 +0000 From: Lee McLoughlin Organization: IC-Parc, Imperial College, London, UK X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.30 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lyndon Nerenberg CC: Christiaan Keet , freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mirror keeps crashes References: <199801161611.JAA26188@ve7tcp.ampr.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > > > Jesper Skriver wrote: > > > I run ftp.dk.freebsd.org, and I have a problem, my mirror keeps crashing, > > > probably due to the wast number of files. > > No, it's hitting a kernel-enforced per-process VM limit. There's a > kernel parameter you need to bump up: > > options MAXDSIZ="536870912UL" #512 MB > > This ups the per-process VM limit to 512MB. You still might have to > fiddle with your shells limit command as well. If you are *really* *really* keen and *really* *really* brave then an experimental copy of mirror 2.9 will appear in sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk packages/mirror/experimental/ within the next couple of days. This accepts a new option: algorithm=1 which tells mirror to do its work a directory at a time. This means less memory needed but a higher load on the server mirror is pulling back from as it will run a 'dir' command for each directory. I've been using it to mirror a couple of very large sites without problems. -- Lee McLoughlin. Phone: +44 171 594 8388 IC-Parc, Imperial College, Fax: +44 171 594 8432 South Kensington, London. SW7 2AZ. UK. Email: lmjm@icparc.ic.ac.uk From owner-freebsd-hubs Sun Jan 18 22:43:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA01253 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 22:43:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sendero.simon-shapiro.org (sendero-fxp0.Simon-Shapiro.ORG [206.190.148.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA01237 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 1998 22:42:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@sendero-fxp0.simon-shapiro.org) Received: (qmail 9211 invoked by uid 1000); 18 Jan 1998 05:49:54 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3-alpha-011298 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199801141844.KAA07251@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 21:49:54 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: shimon@simon-shapiro.org Organization: The Simon Shapiro Foundation From: Simon Shapiro To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Subject: Re: Call for mail-relays Cc: freebsd-hubs@hub.freebsd.org, (Mark Murray) Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org *.i-connect.net esmtp:cartridge.i-connect.net On 14-Jan-98 Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: >> Please re-instate the following relays for .za: >> >> iafrica.com mail-spool.iafrica.com >> *.iafrica.com mail-spool.iafrica.com >> grondar.za mail-spool.iafrica.com >> *.grondar.za mail-spool.iafrica.com >> *.za mail-relay.za.freebsd.org > > i should have asked each of you to state which type of smtp > connection you can support. > > smtp8 > esmtp > smtp > etc..... > > if you all would be so kind as to format the data as well, > that would be great! (wow...i am lazy) > > > example: > *.iafrica.com smtp:mail-spool.iafrica.com > jmb ---------- Sincerely Yours, Simon Shapiro Shimon@Simon-Shapiro.ORG Voice: 503.799.2313 From owner-freebsd-hubs Mon Jan 19 23:34:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA11940 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 23:34:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (d182-89.uoregon.edu [128.223.182.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA11933 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 23:34:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gurney_j@efn.org) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA09503; Mon, 19 Jan 1998 23:34:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19980119233422.52834@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 23:34:22 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney To: freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: need for another cvsup site? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org well.. subject pretty much says it all... is there need for another cvsup site? I have a machine that pretty much runs idle most of the time... and already keeps an updated tree (once a day)... -- John-Mark Gurney Modem/FAX: +1 541 683 6954 Cu Networking P.O. Box 5693, 97405 Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Jan 20 15:58:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19614 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 15:58:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pineapple.arctic.net (pineapple.arctic.net [198.51.13.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA19604 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 15:58:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from uetreq@hotmail.com) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 15:58:01 -0800 (PST) From: uetreq@hotmail.com Received: from ts001d22.eug-or.concentric.net ([206.173.179.34]) by pineapple.arctic.net (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id ABC3845; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 13:45:44 -0900 Subject: Extra Income Message-Id: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To: undisclosed-recipients:; Business Opportunity Are you looking for a way to make extra money? 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John From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Jan 20 16:55:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA23870 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:55:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA23866 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:55:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@austin.polstra.com) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28917; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:55:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp) Message-Id: <199801210055.QAA28917@austin.polstra.com> To: gurney_j@resnet.uoregon.edu Subject: Re: need for another cvsup site? In-Reply-To: <19980119233422.52834@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> References: <19980119233422.52834@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:55:14 -0800 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article <19980119233422.52834@hydrogen.nike.efn.org>, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > well.. subject pretty much says it all... is there need for another > cvsup site? I have a machine that pretty much runs idle most of the > time... and already keeps an updated tree (once a day)... Thanks for the offer. I'm not sure how much need there is for another US mirror. I'd like to hear from the maintainers of cvsup2 and cvsup3 how heavily loaded they are currently. (I am already in touch with cvsup.freebsd.org.) I suspect that cvsup2 and cvsup3 aren't loaded to full capacity. I'd like to avoid adding another US mirror unless we really need it. Freefall gets a surprising load just from keeping all the mirror sites updated. I have an enhancement to CVSup that dramatically reduces the load on mirror sites, if I can just find the time to put together a release. It should enable our existing mirrors to increase their limit on the number of simultaneous clients. It's been in place on cvsup.freebsd.org for several weeks, and it seems to really help a lot. It only helps on mirror sites, though. It won't make any difference for freefall itself. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Jan 20 17:01:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA24363 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 17:01:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (d182-89.uoregon.edu [128.223.182.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA24348 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 17:01:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gurney_j@efn.org) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA14694; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 17:01:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19980120170112.46360@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 17:01:12 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney To: John Polstra Cc: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: need for another cvsup site? References: <19980119233422.52834@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> <199801210055.QAA28917@austin.polstra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199801210055.QAA28917@austin.polstra.com>; from John Polstra on Tue, Jan 20, 1998 at 04:55:14PM -0800 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Polstra scribbled this message on Jan 20: > In article <19980119233422.52834@hydrogen.nike.efn.org>, > John-Mark Gurney wrote: > > well.. subject pretty much says it all... is there need for another > > cvsup site? I have a machine that pretty much runs idle most of the > > time... and already keeps an updated tree (once a day)... > > Thanks for the offer. I'm not sure how much need there is for another > US mirror. I'd like to hear from the maintainers of cvsup2 and cvsup3 > how heavily loaded they are currently. (I am already in touch with > cvsup.freebsd.org.) I suspect that cvsup2 and cvsup3 aren't loaded to > full capacity. I'd like to avoid adding another US mirror unless we well... I've hit the max on cvsup2 before, but that isn't common... > really need it. Freefall gets a surprising load just from keeping all > the mirror sites updated. I can imagine... and this is why I sent mail here first before spending the time to get it up and running... :) > I have an enhancement to CVSup that dramatically reduces the load > on mirror sites, if I can just find the time to put together a > release. It should enable our existing mirrors to increase their > limit on the number of simultaneous clients. It's been in place on > cvsup.freebsd.org for several weeks, and it seems to really help a > lot. It only helps on mirror sites, though. It won't make any > difference for freefall itself. sounds good... -- John-Mark Gurney Modem/FAX: +1 541 683 6954 Cu Networking P.O. Box 5693, 97405 Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Jan 20 17:31:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27210 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 17:31:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA27201 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 17:31:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) id UAA15644; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 20:31:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 20:31:31 -0500 (EST) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <199801210131.UAA15644@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: John Polstra Cc: gurney_j@resnet.uoregon.edu, hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: need for another cvsup site? In-Reply-To: <199801210055.QAA28917@austin.polstra.com> References: <19980119233422.52834@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> <199801210055.QAA28917@austin.polstra.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org < said: > US mirror. I'd like to hear from the maintainers of cvsup2 and cvsup3 > how heavily loaded they are currently. $ gzip -dc /var/log/cvsupd.log.0.gz | wc -l 225 According to my router, that line has a peak utilization (since I last reset the statistics, whenever that was) of 4%. > (I am already in touch with cvsup.freebsd.org.) Speaking of which, would it not be better to have this machine be `cvsup1.freebsd.org', and have the main `cvsup.freebsd.org' be a ``shuffle'' record pointing to all three? That should balance the load far better. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Jan 20 17:50:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA28671 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 17:50:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA28666 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 17:50:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@austin.polstra.com) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA02570; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 17:50:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp) Message-Id: <199801210150.RAA02570@austin.polstra.com> To: Garrett Wollman cc: gurney_j@resnet.uoregon.edu, hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: need for another cvsup site? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 20 Jan 1998 20:31:31 EST." <199801210131.UAA15644@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 17:50:06 -0800 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > $ gzip -dc /var/log/cvsupd.log.0.gz | wc -l > 225 Thanks, that was quick. Here's the same thing on cvsup.freebsd.org. (The logs are rotated daily there.) > opus:/usr/users/jdp> gzip -dc /var/log/cvsupd.log.0.gz | wc -l > 2361 I'd say you're not getting your fair share of the business. :-) > Speaking of which, would it not be better to have this machine be > `cvsup1.freebsd.org', and have the main `cvsup.freebsd.org' be a > ``shuffle'' record pointing to all three? That should balance the > load far better. Yes, that would be a lot better. You simply give cvsup.freebsd.org three A records, and then the DNS system round-robins the order of them in each response, right? John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Jan 20 17:56:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA29000 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 17:56:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (d182-89.uoregon.edu [128.223.182.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA28993 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 17:56:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gurney_j@efn.org) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA15073; Tue, 20 Jan 1998 17:56:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19980120175609.38520@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 17:56:09 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney To: John Polstra Cc: Garrett Wollman , hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: need for another cvsup site? References: <199801210131.UAA15644@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <199801210150.RAA02570@austin.polstra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199801210150.RAA02570@austin.polstra.com>; from John Polstra on Tue, Jan 20, 1998 at 05:50:06PM -0800 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Polstra scribbled this message on Jan 20: > Yes, that would be a lot better. You simply give cvsup.freebsd.org > three A records, and then the DNS system round-robins the order of > them in each response, right? actually, you can do this with CNAME's even: test IN CNAME boron IN CNAME argon IN CNAME hydrogen hydrogen,ttyqh,~,514#host test test.nike.efn.org is a nickname for hydrogen.nike.efn.org hydrogen,ttyqh,~,515#host test test.nike.efn.org is a nickname for boron.nike.efn.org hydrogen,ttyqh,~,516#host test test.nike.efn.org is a nickname for argon.nike.efn.org so: cvsup IN CNAME cvsup1 IN CNAME cvsup2 IN CNAME cvsup3 -- John-Mark Gurney Modem/FAX: +1 541 683 6954 Cu Networking P.O. Box 5693, 97405 Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Jan 23 00:30:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA11994 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 00:30:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freesbee.t.dk (qmailr@freesbee.t.dk [193.163.159.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA11989 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 00:30:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jesper@skriver.dk) Received: (qmail 24876 invoked from network); 23 Jan 1998 08:30:30 -0000 Received: from localhost (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Jan 1998 08:30:30 -0000 Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:30:30 +0100 (CET) From: Jesper Skriver X-Sender: jesper@freesbee.t.dk To: John-Mark Gurney cc: John Polstra , Garrett Wollman , hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: need for another cvsup site? In-Reply-To: <19980120175609.38520@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 20 Jan 1998, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > John Polstra scribbled this message on Jan 20: > > Yes, that would be a lot better. You simply give cvsup.freebsd.org > > three A records, and then the DNS system round-robins the order of > > them in each response, right? > > actually, you can do this with CNAME's even: > test IN CNAME boron > IN CNAME argon > IN CNAME hydrogen No! It isn't "legal", and BIND 8.x won't accept it. > hydrogen,ttyqh,~,514#host test > test.nike.efn.org is a nickname for hydrogen.nike.efn.org > hydrogen,ttyqh,~,515#host test > test.nike.efn.org is a nickname for boron.nike.efn.org > hydrogen,ttyqh,~,516#host test > test.nike.efn.org is a nickname for argon.nike.efn.org > > so: > cvsup IN CNAME cvsup1 > IN CNAME cvsup2 > IN CNAME cvsup3 It works with BIND 4.x, but ... /Jesper -- Jesper Skriver (JS249-RIPE), Network manager Tele Danmark Internet (TDI1-RIPE) One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone bind them. From owner-freebsd-hubs Fri Jan 23 07:54:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA13037 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 07:54:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from opus.cts.cwu.edu (skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu [198.104.92.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA13029 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 07:54:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu) Received: from localhost (skynyrd@localhost) by opus.cts.cwu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA06654; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 07:54:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from skynyrd@opus.cts.cwu.edu) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 07:54:25 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Timmons To: Jesper Skriver cc: John-Mark Gurney , John Polstra , Garrett Wollman , hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: need for another cvsup site? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org When I saw John-Mark's message I wondered about the compliance of such a technique with the applicable RFC's. About the only thing I could find was a snippet from the old BIND faq, included in the v8 distribution as doc/misc/FAQ.2of2. This statement is attributed to Vixie in the context of some sort of hack using multiple CNAMES. 570 Note that having multiple CNAME RR's at a given name is 571 meaningless according to the DNS RFCs but BIND doesn't mind (in 572 fact it doesn't even complain). If you call 573 gethostbyname("hydra.ugly.vix.com") (try it!) you will get I get the feeling that it is one of those things which is not required by a name server implementation; BIND at some point apparantly provided the functionality and as of v8 may no longer do so. -Chris On Fri, 23 Jan 1998, Jesper Skriver wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jan 1998, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > > > John Polstra scribbled this message on Jan 20: > > > Yes, that would be a lot better. You simply give cvsup.freebsd.org > > > three A records, and then the DNS system round-robins the order of > > > them in each response, right? > > > > actually, you can do this with CNAME's even: > > test IN CNAME boron > > IN CNAME argon > > IN CNAME hydrogen > > No! It isn't "legal", and BIND 8.x won't accept it. > > > hydrogen,ttyqh,~,514#host test > > test.nike.efn.org is a nickname for hydrogen.nike.efn.org > > hydrogen,ttyqh,~,515#host test > > test.nike.efn.org is a nickname for boron.nike.efn.org > > hydrogen,ttyqh,~,516#host test > > test.nike.efn.org is a nickname for argon.nike.efn.org > > > > so: > > cvsup IN CNAME cvsup1 > > IN CNAME cvsup2 > > IN CNAME cvsup3 > > It works with BIND 4.x, but ... > > /Jesper > > -- > Jesper Skriver (JS249-RIPE), Network manager > Tele Danmark Internet (TDI1-RIPE) > > One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, > One IP to bring them all and in the zone bind them. >