From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Oct 25 15:35:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA28401 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 15:35:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.force9.co.uk [195.166.136.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA28395 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 15:35:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from woof.lan.awfulhak.org (brian@woof.lan.awfulhak.org [172.16.0.7]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA25900; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 17:16:11 GMT (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from woof.lan.awfulhak.org (brian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by woof.lan.awfulhak.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA00437; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 16:10:17 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@woof.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199810241510.QAA00437@woof.lan.awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: John-David Childs cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CTX Laptop/Neomagic chipset In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:29:09 MDT." <19981023152909.13159@denver.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 16:10:17 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > While searching through the archives trying to figure out why my CTX > 200MhzPentium-MMX laptop was hanging during the "probing devices" stage > (I still haven't figured that one out...I've tried both the 2.2.7-PAO > boot floppy and 3.0-RELEASE with the same results) I came across a > thread from August in this group about "flickering" LCD displays if the > laptop uses a Neomagic chipset when the laptop gets warm. The > assertion was made that there must be something wrong in the X Server > initialization because the flicker doesn't happen in Windoze... That was me :-) I never actually ran windows on this machine (I'm typing this mail on it), but as it came pre-installed with Windows95, I assumed (I know) that it worked ok.... > While I can't attest to any bug in X (and didn't follow the thread any > further) I can without reservation state that the flickering *DOES* > happen under Windows NT when it's been on for awhile. I've been > running NT Server 4.0 for about 6 months (cuz FreeBSD didn't support my > LinkSys EtherFast 10/100 PCMCIA card until (at least 2.2.7-PAO) now). Can you try two other things - just out of curiosity ? If you lift the keyboard (there are two slide-inwards-clips just above the keyboard) and remove the heat-sink (there are 3 screws), you should see that on the underside of the heatsink there are two pads - one goes over the CPU and one goes over the memory modules. The Neomagic chip is up at the top right of where the heat-sink was. Is there any pad over that (there isn't on mine) ? Also, does switching the display off & on remove the flickering ? There's a BIOS setting to choose between suspending or switching the screen off when the lid is closed. If you make sure it's just going to switch the screen off, and try this when the display is flickering, does it become clear again ? A few other things I've tried... If you get the machine *really* hot (this seems easiest to do by playing chess via xboard), it gets to the point where even switching the display off & on doesn't help, although if you restart X, you end up with a display that's flickering so much and is so badly smeared that you can't read anything. Also, the whole deal has gotten a lot worse since I upgraded the memory. I've got two 32Mb DIMMs in there now (+ 8Mb internal) and I'm sure things weren't as bad with the default 24Mb (8x2 + 8). > Please CC any replies to me as I'm not (yet) on this list :) If you want a copy of my kernel config for 3.0, drop me a line. > -- > John-David Childs (JC612) Enterprise Internet Solutions > Systems Administration @denver.net/internet-coach/@ronan.net > & Network Engineering 8707 E. Florida Ave #814 Denver, CO 80231 > If you're right 90% of the time, why quibble about the remaining 3%? -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Oct 25 21:56:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA03436 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 21:56:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gjp.erols.com (alex-va-n008c079.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA03429 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 21:56:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (gjp@localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA01169 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 00:56:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: cardbus Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 00:56:04 -0500 Message-ID: <1165.909381364@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is anyone working on supporting CardBus(TM)? Thanks, Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Oct 25 22:03:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA04437 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 22:03:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles304.castles.com [208.214.167.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA04429; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 22:03:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA03722; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 22:02:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199810260602.WAA03722@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Gary Palmer" cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cardbus In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 26 Oct 1998 00:56:04 EST." <1165.909381364@gjp.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 22:02:50 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Is anyone working on supporting CardBus(TM)? Nothing mainstream yet. There is formidable (but achievable) architectural work involved first. If you're interested in helping, the first step is to convert all of the PCI drivers to Doug's new bus interface mechanism. You would want to work with Garrett, as he's revamping a lot of the ISA stuff in line with the same requirements. Ultimately, you need a fairly flexible bus architecture, and until we get there, anything interim is just an ugly hack. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Oct 26 01:17:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA20849 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 01:17:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from seraglio.xochi.net (rm207-1a.brownlie.fit.edu [163.118.113.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA20844 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 01:17:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from altine@ee.fit.edu) Received: from localhost (altine@localhost) by seraglio.xochi.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA00621 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 04:11:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from altine@ee.fit.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: seraglio.xochi.net: altine owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 04:11:41 -0500 (EST) From: Can Altineller X-Sender: altine@seraglio.xochi.net To: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ipfw and httpd. In-Reply-To: <1165.909381364@gjp.erols.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello All; I started running httpd in my laptop, also I have a firewall; and I figured a strange behaivor in ipfw. It has been acting differently than my ex-desktop. forgive me all those who think this is not the correct list to post this. in my rc.firewall I have $fwcmd add pass tcp from any to ${ip} 80 setup just as I have for port 22, 23, which work fine. However; when I telnet to myhost:80 from an external host; the myhost:80 does not respond at all. I've tcpdumped such an interaction and figured out that it does not syn back, other words, it does not connect at all. I've tried various other commands such as: ipdw add pass tcp from myip 80 to any setup ; and that does not seem to be working. any ideas, or help appreciated. -C@n To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Oct 26 04:54:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA07376 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 04:54:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wave.campus.luth.se (wave.campus.luth.se [130.240.193.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA07366 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 04:54:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pb@wave.campus.luth.se) Received: (from pb@localhost) by wave.campus.luth.se (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA26120; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:00:27 GMT From: PB Message-Id: <199810261500.PAA26120@wave.campus.luth.se> Subject: Advice of GSM-data + *BSD To: Matthias.Apitz@Sisis.de (Matthias Apitz) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:00:27 +0000 () Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19981023162036.08587@sisis.de> from "Matthias Apitz" at Oct 23, 98 04:20:36 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I wonder what gsm-data capable mobile phones that are known to work with *BSD OS's. These are "suspected" to work with RS232 + Hayes-AT.. Falcon A1 (Tip from fbsd-mob) Ericsson SH 888 (is said to work..?) GS18 (According to ericsson support) Ascom (According to ericsson support) Sagem (According to product sheet..can't be sure) Is there anyone that knows a web page on this matter ..? (Maybe a list of "Known-to-work-gsm-phones" can be compiled..) ...................... Does mobile phone GSM-data pcmcia cards behave like any other rs232 port..? If so, is "normal" _pcmcia_ serial ports supported in FreeBSD ..? According to the /usr/src/sys/i386/isa/sio.c source pcmcia includes and defines are used, so this seems likely.. ...................... I can't be the first one wanting to try this .. ;) /Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Oct 26 10:04:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA04890 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:04:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from deathstar.qualcomm.com (deathstar.qualcomm.com [129.46.111.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA04885 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:04:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rmallory@qualcomm.com) Received: (from rmallory@localhost) by deathstar.qualcomm.com (8.8.5/1.4/8.7.2/1.14) id KAA06407; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:02:54 -0800 (PST) From: Rob Mallory Message-Id: <199810261802.KAA06407@deathstar.qualcomm.com> Subject: Re: Advice of GSM-data + *BSD In-Reply-To: <199810261500.PAA26120@wave.campus.luth.se> from PB at "Oct 26, 98 03:00:27 pm" To: pb@wave.campus.luth.se (PB) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:02:54 -0800 (PST) Cc: Matthias.Apitz@Sisis.de, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org They should look just like a modem. (Hook the cable from serial port to the phone) You may have to set your serial-port speed to something slower than you are used to, like 19200 or 38400, but from there, these things are designed to act just like any POTS modem. There are 3 types of data-services: async-data (dial atdt555-1212) to connect to another modem. packet-data (dial atdt#777 or start PPP) to connect via ppp using them as an ISP. (the phone itself acts as a "forwarding ppp interface" transparent to the local ppp client program) cellular-modems (a pcmcia card, looking like a modemm, connecting to the phone) (you can add things like v.42bis and special error-correcting and link-speed negotiation features more easily to a pcmcia card) Most companies developing these products build them for compatibility of popular OS's. ...this would [unfortunately] be: Microsoft products, Linux, then *BSD. These services have been in development for quite some time, consumer demand has not been there to justify an earlier rollout, If you happen to stumble across a product that is not compatible, I'm sure the manufacturer will be quick to resolve it. Rob Mallory > I wonder what gsm-data capable mobile phones that are known to work > with *BSD OS's. > These are "suspected" to work with RS232 + Hayes-AT.. > Falcon A1 (Tip from fbsd-mob) > Ericsson SH 888 (is said to work..?) > GS18 (According to ericsson support) > Ascom (According to ericsson support) > Sagem (According to product sheet..can't be sure) > Is there anyone that knows a web page on this matter ..? > (Maybe a list of "Known-to-work-gsm-phones" can be compiled..) > ...................... > Does mobile phone GSM-data pcmcia cards behave like any other rs232 port..? > > If so, is "normal" _pcmcia_ serial ports supported in FreeBSD ..? > According to the /usr/src/sys/i386/isa/sio.c source pcmcia includes and > defines are used, so this seems likely.. > ...................... > I can't be the first one wanting to try this .. ;) > /Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Oct 26 10:08:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05243 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:08:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA05221; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:08:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from cs.strath.ac.uk (posh.dmem.strath.ac.uk [130.159.202.3]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA11606 Mon, 26 Oct 1998 18:07:31 GMT Message-ID: <3634BA43.94BC672C@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 18:06:59 +0000 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: Strathclyde Uni X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: PCIC_IRQ - disabling PCMCIA IRQ allocation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, One of the things PAO hase which the 3.0-RELEASE PCMCIA code does not have is the PCIC_IRQ kernel configuration. With it, it is possible to tell the PCMCIA card controller NOT to reserve itself an IRQ. This means no hot swapping of cards, but for my application (embedded systems) I cannot hot swap and I do not want an IRQ wasted by the card chipset. The patch for 3.0-RELEASE is trivial to include the PCIC_IRQ code (basically it forces a value in the pcic.c code). Is someone willing to commit this to -current if I supply the diff. It will then complete all my PCMCIA needs without needing the full PAO package. Bye Roger Hardiman Strathclyde University Telepresence Group To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Oct 26 14:10:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA28995 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:10:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from silver.gn.iaf.nl (silver.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA28990 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 14:10:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by silver.gn.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA15967; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 23:09:41 +0100 Received: by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA13088 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Mon, 26 Oct 1998 22:57:21 +0100 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.6.12) id WAA15630; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 22:47:44 +0100 (CET) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199810262147.WAA15630@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: Advice of GSM-data + *BSD In-Reply-To: <199810261802.KAA06407@deathstar.qualcomm.com> from Rob Mallory at "Oct 26, 98 10:02:54 am" To: rmallory@qualcomm.com (Rob Mallory) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 22:47:44 +0100 (CET) Cc: pb@wave.campus.luth.se, Matthias.Apitz@sisis.de, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-Pgp-Info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As Rob Mallory wrote... > > They should look just like a modem. (Hook the cable from serial port > to the phone) You may have to set your serial-port speed to something What voltage levels can be expected? Is the cable just a cable or is there more to it? > slower than you are used to, like 19200 or 38400, but from there, these > things are designed to act just like any POTS modem. > > There are 3 types of data-services: > async-data (dial atdt555-1212) to connect to another modem. > packet-data (dial atdt#777 or start PPP) to connect via ppp using them as an ISP. Wilko _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl ______________________________________________ Powered by FreeBSD __________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Oct 26 15:09:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA04975 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:09:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tarkin.qualcomm.com (tarkin.qualcomm.com [129.46.111.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA04968 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:09:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rmallory@qualcomm.com) Received: (from rmallory@localhost) by tarkin.qualcomm.com (8.8.5/1.4/8.7.2/1.13) id PAA04376; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:07:34 -0800 (PST) From: Rob Mallory Message-Id: <199810262307.PAA04376@tarkin.qualcomm.com> Subject: Re: Advice of GSM-data + *BSD In-Reply-To: <199810262147.WAA15630@yedi.iaf.nl> from Wilko Bulte at "Oct 26, 98 10:47:44 pm" To: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl (Wilko Bulte) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:07:34 -0800 (PST) Cc: pb@wave.campus.luth.se, Matthias.Apitz@sisis.de, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > As Rob Mallory wrote... > > > > They should look just like a modem. (Hook the cable from serial port > > to the phone) You may have to set your serial-port speed to something > > What voltage levels can be expected? Is the cable just a cable or is there > more to it? > In the case of all Qualcomm CDMA phones, and the Nokia GSM phone I've seen, it's simply a cable. The phone has a preaty normal rs232 serial driver inside. ...and even though it runs at 14.4 or so, without compression, it is still preaty darn cool to be at the beach and reading your email, or being able to log into the network from anywhere you can take your phone and freebsd-laptop. http://www.qualcomm.com/ -Rob Mallory To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Oct 26 16:25:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA13862 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:25:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.force9.co.uk [195.166.136.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13853; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:25:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from woof.lan.awfulhak.org (root@woof.lan.awfulhak.org [172.16.0.7]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA27526; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 00:25:01 GMT (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from woof.lan.awfulhak.org (brian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by woof.lan.awfulhak.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA10745; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 00:25:06 GMT (envelope-from brian@woof.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199810270025.AAA10745@woof.lan.awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Roger Hardiman cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCIC_IRQ - disabling PCMCIA IRQ allocation In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 26 Oct 1998 18:06:59 GMT." <3634BA43.94BC672C@cs.strath.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 00:25:04 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hi, > > One of the things PAO hase which the 3.0-RELEASE PCMCIA code does not > have is the > PCIC_IRQ kernel configuration. > > With it, it is possible to tell the PCMCIA card controller NOT to > reserve itself an IRQ. > This means no hot swapping of cards, but for my application (embedded > systems) I cannot hot > swap and I do not want an IRQ wasted by the card chipset. > > The patch for 3.0-RELEASE is trivial to include the PCIC_IRQ code > (basically it forces a value in the > pcic.c code). > > Is someone willing to commit this to -current if I supply the diff. > > It will then complete all my PCMCIA needs without needing the full PAO > package. I'm willing to if 1. You can also specify the IRQ that the controller should use. 2. Either Nate or Mike OKs it (I'll pass it to them for review first - they're our resident laptop people). > Bye > Roger Hardiman > Strathclyde University Telepresence Group Cheers. -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Oct 26 16:38:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA15018 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:38:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA14969; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:37:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA28499; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:37:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA28919; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:37:08 -0700 Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:37:08 -0700 Message-Id: <199810270037.RAA28919@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Brian Somers Cc: Roger Hardiman , mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCIC_IRQ - disabling PCMCIA IRQ allocation In-Reply-To: <199810270025.AAA10745@woof.lan.awfulhak.org> References: <3634BA43.94BC672C@cs.strath.ac.uk> <199810270025.AAA10745@woof.lan.awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > One of the things PAO hase which the 3.0-RELEASE PCMCIA code does not > > have is the > > PCIC_IRQ kernel configuration. > > > > With it, it is possible to tell the PCMCIA card controller NOT to > > reserve itself an IRQ. > > This means no hot swapping of cards, but for my application (embedded > > systems) I cannot hot > > swap and I do not want an IRQ wasted by the card chipset. > > > > The patch for 3.0-RELEASE is trivial to include the PCIC_IRQ code > > (basically it forces a value in the > > pcic.c code). > > > > Is someone willing to commit this to -current if I supply the diff. > > > > It will then complete all my PCMCIA needs without needing the full PAO > > package. > > I'm willing to if > > 1. You can also specify the IRQ that the controller should use. > 2. Either Nate or Mike OKs it (I'll pass it to them for review first > - they're our resident laptop people). I'm out of the picture, but I'd like to see it done 'correctly'. Using OPTIONS is IMO the 'wrong' way of doing it. PAO already has about 3 dozen different options, and that's about 3 dozen too many when in fact each option is generally specific to one file. There's got to be a better way of configuring a single-file that is better than using options. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Oct 26 21:50:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA13108 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 21:50:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.ka.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [193.197.84.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA13102 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 21:50:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from br@stiller.netland.inka.de) Received: from uu.inka.de (ms1.ka.inka.de [193.197.84.8]) by mail.ka.inka.de with smtp id 0zY20L-0003gr-00; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 06:49:17 +0100 Received: (br@stiller.netland.inka.de) by uu.inka.de (S3.1.29.1) id ; Tue, 27 Oct 98 06:56 MET Received: from netland.inka.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by faber.netland.inka.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA01616 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 06:46:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from br@netland.inka.de) Message-Id: <199810270546.GAA01616@faber.netland.inka.de> To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Adaptec SlimSCSI APA-1460*B* Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 06:46:56 +0100 From: Bernd Rosauer Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, in the list of cards supported by PAO I found Adaptec SlimSCSI APA-1460 Adaptec SlimSCSI APA-1460A Any idea whether the new Adaptec SlimSCSI APA-1460*B* will/should work with PAO, too? If so, shall I buy the bulk or kit version? Thanks for your help! -Bernd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Oct 27 05:01:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA15520 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 05:01:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA15515 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 05:01:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rob@wiers.demon.nl) Received: from [195.173.245.141] (helo=wiers.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zY8k3-00008w-00 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 13:00:55 +0000 Message-ID: <3635D25E.6902F1F2@wiers.demon.nl> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:02:06 +0100 From: "rob@demon" Reply-To: rob@murphy.nl Organization: Murphy Software B.V. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Suggestions on using multi-purpose PC Cards under FreeBSD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all, I've been searching all over the web to find info regarding the possibility of using modern multi-purpose PC Cards under FreeBSD. Unfortunately all I could find was the list of supported Cards with the PAO module. I've ordered a Gateway Solo 9100 LS Laptop system that I'm going to use as my main machine. I want to use both the ethernet and the modem (for Internet access) at customer's sites. I also have a REX PC Card and am considering using a SCSI card and drive for backup purposes, so I'm looking for multi-purpose cards. Anybody on this list have any experience with this or has any suggestions? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Kind regards, Rob Wiers (rob@murphy.nl) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Oct 27 05:59:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA19819 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 05:59:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mrelay.jrc.it (mrelay.jrc.it [139.191.1.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA19813 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 05:59:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dirk.vangulik@jrc.it) Received: from elpc36.jrc.it (elpc36.jrc.it [139.191.71.36]) by mrelay.jrc.it (LMC5692) with ESMTP id OAA17181; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 14:58:54 +0100 (MET) Received: (from dirkx@localhost) by elpc36.jrc.it (8.9.1/8.8.7) id PAA03001; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:03:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dirkx) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:03:15 +0100 (CET) From: Dirk-Willem van Gulik X-Sender: dirkx@elpc36.jrc.it To: rob@murphy.nl cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Suggestions on using multi-purpose PC Cards under FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <3635D25E.6902F1F2@wiers.demon.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 27 Oct 1998, rob@demon wrote: > modem (for Internet access) at customer's sites. I also have a REX > PC Card and am considering using a SCSI card and drive for backup The REX card appears as a chunk of 128kByte of 120ns memory; which contains the (entire) content in a bit of a funny, but not too compressed bunary way. Dw. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Oct 27 11:03:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA14274 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:03:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nohow.demon.co.uk (nohow.demon.co.uk [212.228.18.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA14267 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:03:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from noway@nohow.demon.co.uk) Received: from localhost (nohow.demon.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) by nohow.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA10652; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:01:01 GMT (envelope-from noway@nohow.demon.co.uk) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:01:00 +0000 (GMT) From: Jose Marques To: Bernd Rosauer cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Adaptec SlimSCSI APA-1460*B* In-Reply-To: <199810270546.GAA01616@faber.netland.inka.de> Message-ID: X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 27 Oct 1998, Bernd Rosauer wrote: > Hi, > > in the list of cards supported by PAO I found > > Adaptec SlimSCSI APA-1460 > Adaptec SlimSCSI APA-1460A > > Any idea whether the new Adaptec SlimSCSI APA-1460*B* will/should > work with PAO, too? If so, shall I buy the bulk or kit version? Yes. I used the PAO boot disk with a 1460B to install FreeBSD 2.2.5 from SCSI CD-ROM earlier this year. It has also worked with "stock" FreeBSD since just after 2.2.5 came out. I don't use PAO myself. Don't know what bulk/kit means. One irritation, Adaptec don't include a cable you can use with a ZIP drive - though you can get one _free_ if you order it and pay the delivery. -- Jose Marques To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Oct 27 11:47:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA17793 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:47:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from du248-02.cc.iastate.edu (du248-02.cc.iastate.edu [129.186.248.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17774; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:47:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from graphix@iastate.edu) Received: from localhost (graphix@localhost) by du248-02.cc.iastate.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA21108; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 13:46:34 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199810271946.NAA21108@du248-02.cc.iastate.edu> To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: kent@iastate.edu Subject: Notebook install Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 13:46:32 CST From: Kent Vander Velden Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi. I would like to install FreeBSD on a Digital HiNote 745. I am concerned about the support that FreeBSD has for pcmcia cards. I would like to have a fast ethernet/modem combo card and a scsi card. What models does FreeBSD support? Will the internal CDROM and floppy be usable? Honestly, how does FreeBSD and Linux compare in laptop technology? It would seem from my glance that Linux has more complete support. I would like to continue to use FreeBSD but if the support is not there there is little choice. Thanks. --- Kent Vander Velden kent@iastate.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Oct 27 12:01:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA18984 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:01:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18966; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:01:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00830; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:00:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199810272000.MAA00830@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: kent@iastate.edu cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Notebook install In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 27 Oct 1998 13:46:32 CST." <199810271946.NAA21108@du248-02.cc.iastate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:00:47 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Hi. I would like to install FreeBSD on a Digital HiNote 745. > I am concerned about the support that FreeBSD has for pcmcia cards. We all are. > I would like to have a fast ethernet/modem combo card and a scsi > card. No combo cards are supported. We currently only support the Linksys fast ethernet card (and it's not). Until Cardbus is a reality, fast ethernet on PCCARD doesn't make any sense anyway. > What models does FreeBSD support? For 10Mbps ethernet, almost anything NE2000 compatible, or the 3Com 3c589. Modem cards almost all work fine. SCSI card support in 3.0 is nonexistent, as the aic driver hasn't been CAMified yet. Practically, SCSI support in a laptop is almost useless anyway; you don't want to be lugging all the extra peripherals around. I have an Adaptec 1460 and I think I've used it once in the last 12 months. OTOH, I also have an Iomega Jaz Traveler, and I tend to use it by preference (it *is* supported in 3.0). > Will the internal CDROM and floppy be usable? Yes. > Honestly, how does FreeBSD and Linux compare in laptop technology? Linux defintely has broader support. FreeBSD's support is good enough for enough of us that it's not been a critical development issue for a while. > It would seem from my glance that Linux has more complete support. I > would like to continue to use FreeBSD but if the support is not there > there is little choice. That depends on what you want to do. If you want the best laptop support, you should be running Windows 98. Don't put the cart before the horse; pick the platform and the peripherals to do the job. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Oct 27 12:12:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20006 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:12:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jli.com (jli.com [199.2.111.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA20001 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:12:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from trost@cloud.rain.com) Received: (qmail 786 invoked by uid 4); 27 Oct 1998 20:12:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 18341 invoked from network); 27 Oct 1998 20:11:37 -0000 Received: from localhost.cloud.rain.com (HELO cloud.rain.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.cloud.rain.com with SMTP; 27 Oct 1998 20:11:37 -0000 To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Notebook install References: <199810272000.MAA00830@dingo.cdrom.com> In-reply-to: Your message of Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:00:47 PST. <199810272000.MAA00830@dingo.cdrom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <18337.909519096.1@cloud.rain.com> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:11:36 -0800 Message-ID: <18338.909519096@cloud.rain.com> From: Bill Trost Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mike Smith writes: SCSI card support in 3.0 is nonexistent, as the aic driver hasn't been CAMified yet. Practically, SCSI support in a laptop is almost useless anyway; you don't want to be lugging all the extra peripherals around. I would like to contest that. In some of the work I do, the ability to hook up a tape or Jaz drive on the road has been of *critical* importance to the work I do. I will agree that my work is unusual, but the ability to show up to a DOS-only shop and say, "OK, let's try reading the tape directly and see if we can guess what the format is," is a real lifesaver. OTOH, I also have an Iomega Jaz Traveler, and I tend to use it by preference (it *is* supported in 3.0). Duh...what's a Jaz Traveler? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Oct 27 12:31:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA21646 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:31:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21641 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:30:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA01057; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:29:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199810272029.MAA01057@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Bill Trost cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Notebook install In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:11:36 PST." <18338.909519096@cloud.rain.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:29:45 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Mike Smith writes: > > OTOH, I also have an Iomega Jaz Traveler, and I tend to use it by > preference (it *is* supported in 3.0). > > Duh...what's a Jaz Traveler? It's a $50 parallel<->SCSI adapter, the same device used in the guts of the parallel Zip drive. I get about 500K/sec to/from my Jaz with it, although it eats your CPU something wicked. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Oct 27 14:00:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA28912 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 14:00:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tinker.com (troll.tinker.com [204.214.7.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA28888 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 14:00:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from carol@tinker.com) Received: by localhost (8.8.5/8.8.5) Received: by mail.tinker.com via smap (V2.0) id xma006358; Tue Oct 27 15:54:24 1998 Received: by localhost (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA24261; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 16:03:43 -0600 (CST) Received: by localhost (NX5.67g/) id AA07031; Tue, 27 Oct 98 15:58:01 -0600 Message-Id: <9810272158.AA07031@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148) From: Carol Lyn Deihl Date: Tue, 27 Oct 98 15:58:00 -0600 To: Can Altineller Subject: Re: ipfw and httpd. Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: Carol Deihl References: Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can Altineller wrote: > in my rc.firewall I have > >$fwcmd add pass tcp from any to ${ip} 80 setup > > just as I have for port 22, 23, which work fine. However; when I >telnet to myhost:80 from an external host; the myhost:80 does not respond >at all. I've tcpdumped such an interaction and figured out that it does >not syn back, other words, it does not connect at all. I've tried various >other commands such as: ipdw add pass tcp from myip 80 to any setup ; and >that does not seem to be working. The rule you mentioned allows only the first packet from a client to reach your web server, but you will need additional rules for the rest of the packets from the client, and for the reply packets from your server back to the client. I'd suggest rules like the following: $fwcmd add pass tcp from any to ${ip} 80 in $fwcmd add pass tcp from ${ip} 80 to any out established The first rule lets clients send packets "in" to your server. The second rule lets your server send reply packets ("established") back "out" to the clients. You may already have a rule near the end of your set something like this: $fwcmd add pass tcp from ${ip} to any out established Since this rule allows replies to all established connections, you won't need the second rule above. Carol Deihl -- carol@tinker.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Oct 28 00:48:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA06160 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 00:48:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mrelay.jrc.it (mrelay.jrc.it [139.191.1.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA06155 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 00:48:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dirk.vangulik@jrc.it) Received: from elpc36.jrc.it (elpc36.jrc.it [139.191.71.36]) by mrelay.jrc.it (LMC5692) with ESMTP id JAA05708; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:47:55 +0100 (MET) Received: (from dirkx@localhost) by elpc36.jrc.it (8.9.1/8.8.7) id JAA10556; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:52:30 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dirkx) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:52:30 +0100 (CET) From: Dirk-Willem van Gulik X-Sender: dirkx@elpc36.jrc.it To: kent@iastate.edu cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Notebook install In-Reply-To: <199810271946.NAA21108@du248-02.cc.iastate.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 27 Oct 1998, Kent Vander Velden wrote: > Hi. I would like to install FreeBSD on a Digital HiNote 745. Installs just fine. > I am concerned about the support that FreeBSD has for pcmcia cards. :-) > I would like to have a fast ethernet/modem combo card and a scsi > card. What models does FreeBSD support? Will the internal CDROM If you stick to 2.2.7-PAO (www.jp.freebsd.org/PAO) you'll see that a lot of ethernetcards, scsi cards and modemcards are supported just fine. Combo cards usually work in _either_ mode, but not in both at the same time. This is an issue. > and floppy be usable? Honestly, how does FreeBSD and Linux compare Floppy and CD work fine. > in laptop technology? It would seem from my glance that Linux has > more complete support. I would like to continue to use FreeBSD but > if the support is not there there is little choice. I (personally) find PAO a lot more stable and easier to handle than a Linux 5.1 installation. For a no fuss user, rather than a kernel developer that is. Dw. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Oct 28 06:36:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA05061 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 06:36:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sicily.odyssey.cs.cmu.edu (SICILY.ODYSSEY.CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.185.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA05043; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 06:36:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rvb+@sicily.odyssey.cs.cmu.edu) To: Mike Smith Cc: kent@iastate.edu, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Notebook install References: <199810272000.MAA00830@dingo.cdrom.com> From: "Robert V. Baron" Date: 28 Oct 1998 09:35:34 -0500 In-Reply-To: Mike Smith's message of Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:00:47 -0800 Message-ID: Lines: 15 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.46/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mike Smith writes: > For 10Mbps ethernet, almost anything NE2000 compatible, or the 3Com > 3c589. Modem cards almost all work fine. > One observation here. You can either use the zp0 driver for the 3c589 which will happen when you install and keep running with it. Or you can install with the zp0 and then cut over to pccard and friends and use the ep0 driver. In my experience, the zp0 driver is not stable under normal usage and will wedge. You need to ifconfig it up/down. The ep0 driver works. And a thought ... it would be nice if sysinstall made cutting over to the pccard scheme transparent. It would mimimally have to install a /etc/pccard.conf file and switch you to a PCCARD kernel. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Oct 28 17:07:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA00463 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 17:07:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp1.andrew.cmu.edu (SMTP1.ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA00457 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 17:07:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwhite@cmu.edu) Received: from DEIMOS.REM.CMU.EDU (DEIMOS.REM.CMU.EDU [128.2.108.154]) by smtp1.andrew.cmu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id UAA26534 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:00:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:00:53 -0500 From: Matt White To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: PAO wierdness Message-ID: <3366753664.909604853@DEIMOS.REM.CMU.EDU> Originator-Info: login-id=; server=cyrus.andrew.cmu.edu X-Mailer: Mulberry (Win32) [1.4.0, s/n S-100002] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am trying to install the PAO variant of FreeBSD 2.2.7 on my sony pcg719c laptop by doing a net install. The ether card is a 3com 3c589 w/xjack On my first attempt, the install went smoothly with no problems whatsoever until I rebooted the system. The machine comes back up with a 'read error'. I don't sweat this since I specified 'dangerously dedicated' and read somewhere that makes some machines cry. It doesn't suprise me that Sony is one of these machines. So, back to reinstall. This time I do the same thing as last, minus skipping the fdisk stuff. Now the machine adds the default route, does the DNS lookup on ftp.freebsd.org and gives me the message 'Logging into ftp@ftp.freebsd.org'. Well, I'm watching the SNMP stats on the hub port that this machine is attached to and it is doing no such thing. If I let it sit there long enough, it will error out and return me to the main menu. Anyone have any clues on this one? Please CC me on any replies as our mail-to-news gateway seems to be out of order (but that at least is not my problem). -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Oct 28 20:48:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA29589 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:41:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles53.castles.com [208.214.165.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA29565 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:41:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA00380; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:41:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199810290441.UAA00380@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Matt White cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PAO wierdness In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:00:53 EST." <3366753664.909604853@DEIMOS.REM.CMU.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:41:07 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I am trying to install the PAO variant of FreeBSD 2.2.7 on my sony pcg719c > laptop by doing a net install. The ether card is a 3com 3c589 w/xjack > > On my first attempt, the install went smoothly with no problems whatsoever > until I rebooted the system. The machine comes back up with a 'read > error'. I don't sweat this since I specified 'dangerously dedicated' and > read somewhere that makes some machines cry. It doesn't suprise me that > Sony is one of these machines. It makes almost *all* machines cry. > So, back to reinstall. This time I do the same thing as last, minus > skipping the fdisk stuff. Now the machine adds the default route, does the > DNS lookup on ftp.freebsd.org and gives me the message 'Logging into > ftp@ftp.freebsd.org'. Well, I'm watching the SNMP stats on the hub port > that this machine is attached to and it is doing no such thing. If I let > it sit there long enough, it will error out and return me to the main menu. A wild guess would be that the interrupt or media settings on your network interface are wrong. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message