From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Nov 23 00:26:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA13683 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 00:26:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zeugme.francenet.fr (zeugme.francenet.fr [193.149.97.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA13677 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 00:26:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perrot@FranceNet.fr) Received: from breizh.francenet.fr (gpconnect.francenet.net [193.149.111.208]) by zeugme.francenet.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA05557 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:26:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from breizh.francenet.fr (localhost.francenet.fr [127.0.0.1]) by breizh.francenet.fr (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA00404 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:22:50 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199811230822.JAA00404@breizh.francenet.fr> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: pccardd on FreeBSD 3.0 for 3C589D and Xircom CEM56-100 X-Face: '%)H7X3>"mU[aaPz3aZ`^e{*DV1&W;+P-Wx*Yk)Ah[e(-AO&EB\D.gq2y{kH73Q29}_A4H,eykdf!9dj[m\gwFgZOTt?=7gI+RBN,I({A32-MyZrmtrD%8*L/boGS0,+Lj$H|@ X-Url: http://www.francenet.fr/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:22:49 +0100 From: Gildas PERROT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id AAA13678 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I am trying to make those 2 pc-cards working on my Toshiba Satellite Pro 490XCDT. The 3C589D was working with the default zp0 kernel entry but I would like to use pccardd now. I read that under 3.0, ep0 driver is preferred (why?) than zp0 and also read the contrary. SO, I tried to use ep0 *and* zp0 in /etc/pccard.conf like that : # Generally available IO ports io 0x240-0x360 # Generally available IRQs (Built-in sound-card owners remove 5) irq 3 5 10 11 13 15 # Available memory slots memory 0xd4000 96k # 3Com Etherlink III 3C589D card "3Com Corporation" "3C589D" config 0x1 "zp0" ? insert echo 3Com Etherlink III inserted insert /etc/pccard_ether zp0 remove echo 3Com Etherlink III removed remove /sbin/ifconfig zp0 delete But I had : Nov 23 09:02:15 breizh pccardd[296]: pccardd started Card inserted, slot 0 Nov 23 09:02:55 breizh pccardd[296]: driver allocation failed for 3Com Corporation In my kernel, I have : device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 vector epintr device zp0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 vector zpintr dmesg says : zp0 not found at 0x300 ep0 not found at 0x300 Any idea about to resolve my problem ? Furthermore, I put an entry for my Xircom CreditCard Ethernet 10/100+ Modem 56 card : card "Xircom" "CreditCard Ethernet 10/100 + " config 0x23 "sio2" 3 insert echo Xircom CreditCard Modem inserted remove echo Xircom CreditCard Modem removed But when launching pccardd, I got : Code 136 not found Code 136 not found code Unknown ignored Code 138 not found Code 138 not found code Unknown ignored code Manufacturer ID ignored Code 138 not found Code 138 not found code Unknown ignored Nov 23 09:14:31 breizh pccardd[374]: Resource allocation failure for Xircom N Any idea with this other problem ? Finally,is there any news about support of both modem and ethernet on Xircom or other multifunction cards ? Thanks in advance for your help. Gildas. -- Gildas PERROT, perrot@francenet.fr __o FranceNet, 28 rue Desaix, 75015 Paris ---_ \<,_ http://www.francenet.fr ---- (_)/ (_) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Nov 23 00:36:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA15002 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 00:36:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hunter.softcon.de (hunter.softcon.de [193.31.11.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA14986 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 00:36:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Matthias.Apitz@Sisis.de) Received: (from mail@localhost) by hunter.softcon.de (8.6.9/8.6.12) id JAA25379 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:39:18 +0100 Received: from boell.softcon.de(193.31.10.71) by hunter.softcon.de via smap (V1.3) id sma025376; Mon Nov 23 09:39:11 1998 Received: from hunter.softcon.de (torwart.SOFTCON.de [193.31.10.94]) by boell.SOFTCON.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA12051; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 08:32:46 GMT Received: (from guru@localhost) by mail.sisis.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05149; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:35:05 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru) Message-ID: <19981123093505.47024@sisis.de> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:35:05 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Gildas PERROT Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pccardd on FreeBSD 3.0 for 3C589D and Xircom CEM56-100 References: <199811230822.JAA00404@breizh.francenet.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <199811230822.JAA00404@breizh.francenet.fr>; from Gildas PERROT on Mon, Nov 23, 1998 at 09:22:49AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 23, 1998 at 09:22:49AM +0100, Gildas PERROT wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to make those 2 pc-cards working on my Toshiba Satellite Pro > 490XCDT. The 3C589D was working with the default zp0 kernel entry but I would > like to use pccardd now. I read that under 3.0, ep0 driver is preferred (why?) > than zp0 and also read the contrary. SO, I tried to use ep0 *and* zp0 in > /etc/pccard.conf like that : > > # Generally available IO ports > io 0x240-0x360 > # Generally available IRQs (Built-in sound-card owners remove 5) > irq 3 5 10 11 13 15 > # Available memory slots > memory 0xd4000 96k > > # 3Com Etherlink III 3C589D > card "3Com Corporation" "3C589D" > config 0x1 "zp0" ? ^^^------------ change this to "ep0" the other card (Xircom ethernet+modem) isn't supported; matthias -- firm: matthias.apitz@sisis.de [voc:+49 89 61308 351, fax: +49 89 61308 188] priv: guru@thias.muc.de WWW: http://www.sisis.de/~guru/ UNIX, Windows95 and WindowsNT -- also known as the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Nov 23 01:04:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA17984 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 01:04:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zeugme.francenet.fr (zeugme.francenet.fr [193.149.97.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA17976 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 01:04:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perrot@FranceNet.fr) Received: from breizh.francenet.fr (gpconnect.francenet.net [193.149.111.208]) by zeugme.francenet.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08150; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:04:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from breizh.francenet.fr (localhost.francenet.fr [127.0.0.1]) by breizh.francenet.fr (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA00634; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:00:54 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199811230900.KAA00634@breizh.francenet.fr> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Matthias Apitz Subject: Re: pccardd on FreeBSD 3.0 for 3C589D and Xircom CEM56-100 In-reply-to: Matthias.Apitz's message of Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:35:05 +0100. <19981123093505.47024@sisis.de> Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: '%)H7X3>"mU[aaPz3aZ`^e{*DV1&W;+P-Wx*Yk)Ah[e(-AO&EB\D.gq2y{kH73Q29}_A4H,eykdf!9dj[m\gwFgZOTt?=7gI+RBN,I({A32-MyZrmtrD%8*L/boGS0,+Lj$H|@ X-Url: http://www.francenet.fr/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:00:52 +0100 From: Gildas PERROT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id BAA17980 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Mon, Nov 23, 1998 at 09:22:49AM +0100, Gildas PERROT wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am trying to make those 2 pc-cards working on my Toshiba Satellite Pro > > 490XCDT. The 3C589D was working with the default zp0 kernel entry but I would > > like to use pccardd now. I read that under 3.0, ep0 driver is preferred (why?) > > than zp0 and also read the contrary. SO, I tried to use ep0 *and* zp0 in > > /etc/pccard.conf like that : > > > > # Generally available IO ports > > io 0x240-0x360 > > # Generally available IRQs (Built-in sound-card owners remove 5) > > irq 3 5 10 11 13 15 > > # Available memory slots > > memory 0xd4000 96k > > > > # 3Com Etherlink III 3C589D > > card "3Com Corporation" "3C589D" > > config 0x1 "zp0" ? > ^^^------------ change this to "ep0" I suppose I have also to change the lines below : insert /etc/pccard_ether zp0 remove /sbin/ifconfig zp0 delete That's what I try as I said above but I got the same result than for zp0 : Nov 23 09:02:55 breizh pccardd[296]: driver allocation failed for 3Com Corporation > the other card (Xircom ethernet+modem) isn't supported; > > matthias Any idea if someone is working on that ? Thanks in advance for your help. Gildas. -- Gildas PERROT, perrot@francenet.fr __o FranceNet, 28 rue Desaix, 75015 Paris ---_ \<,_ http://www.francenet.fr ---- (_)/ (_) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Nov 23 01:49:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA22505 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 01:49:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hotpoint.dcs.qmw.ac.uk (hotpoint.dcs.qmw.ac.uk [138.37.88.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA22500 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 01:49:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scott@dcs.qmw.ac.uk) Received: from scott@it002.dcs.qmw.ac.uk [138.37.94.2]; by hotpoint.dcs.qmw.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.5/S-4.0) with ESMTP; id JAA28029; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:48:34 GMT Received: (from scott@localhost) by it002.dcs.qmw.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.7.3) id JAA00441; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:48:34 GMT Message-ID: <19981123094833.B379@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:48:33 +0000 From: Scott Mitchell To: Gildas PERROT , Matthias Apitz Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pccardd on FreeBSD 3.0 for 3C589D and Xircom CEM56-100 References: <19981123093505.47024@sisis.de> <199811230900.KAA00634@breizh.francenet.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199811230900.KAA00634@breizh.francenet.fr>; from Gildas PERROT on Mon, Nov 23, 1998 at 10:00:52AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 23, 1998 at 10:00:52AM +0100, Gildas PERROT wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 23, 1998 at 09:22:49AM +0100, Gildas PERROT wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I am trying to make those 2 pc-cards working on my Toshiba Satellite Pro > > > 490XCDT. The 3C589D was working with the default zp0 kernel entry but I would > > > like to use pccardd now. I read that under 3.0, ep0 driver is preferred (why?) > > > than zp0 and also read the contrary. SO, I tried to use ep0 *and* zp0 in > > > /etc/pccard.conf like that : > > > > > > # Generally available IO ports > > > io 0x240-0x360 > > > # Generally available IRQs (Built-in sound-card owners remove 5) > > > irq 3 5 10 11 13 15 > > > # Available memory slots > > > memory 0xd4000 96k > > > > > > # 3Com Etherlink III 3C589D > > > card "3Com Corporation" "3C589D" > > > config 0x1 "zp0" ? > > ^^^------------ change this to "ep0" > > I suppose I have also to change the lines below : > > insert /etc/pccard_ether zp0 > remove /sbin/ifconfig zp0 delete > > That's what I try as I said above but I got the same result than for zp0 : > > Nov 23 09:02:55 breizh pccardd[296]: driver allocation failed for 3Com > Corporation > > > the other card (Xircom ethernet+modem) isn't supported; > > > > matthias > > Any idea if someone is working on that ? > I'm working (very slowly) on the Ethernet part. AFAIK the modem side of the card will already work. I really hope to have something available for testers insode the next couple of weeks -- stay tuned. Scott. -- =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID |"If I can't have my coffee, I'm just | 0x54B171B9 | like a dried up piece of roast goat" QMW College, London, UK | 0xAA775B8B | -- J. S. Bach. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Nov 23 05:26:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA14291 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 05:26:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hotpoint.dcs.qmw.ac.uk (hotpoint.dcs.qmw.ac.uk [138.37.88.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA14266 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 05:26:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scott@dcs.qmw.ac.uk) Received: from brunos-sun.dcs.qmw.ac.uk [138.37.88.185]; by hotpoint.dcs.qmw.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.5/S-4.0) with SMTP; id NAA29637; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 13:25:08 GMT Received: locally by brunos-sun (SMI-8.6/QMW-client-3.2b); poster "scott"; id NAA14303; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 13:24:05 GMT Message-ID: <19981123132405.B5715@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 13:24:05 +0000 From: Scott Mitchell To: shibumi@cisco.com, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: APM on ThinkPad 380? References: <199811181543.HAA22569@thyme.cisco.com> <199811201015.CAA02382@thyme.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199811201015.CAA02382@thyme.cisco.com>; from Kenton A. Hoover on Fri, Nov 20, 1998 at 02:15:56AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Nov 20, 1998 at 02:15:56AM -0800, Kenton A. Hoover wrote: > Nailed it. I had tried removing that CLI, but apparently I missed something > in the way the preprocessor deals with creating in-line assembly code. Anyway, > I've managed to remove it completely this time, and APM works correctly > between 95 and 99% of the time. I'm trying to get ahold of the PAO developer > to get this changed incorporated into the next release. It worked! Removed one line, recompiled, and no more lockups (yet). A million thanks to Mr. Hoover. Now as soon as I get my Ethernet driver written, I can ditch the MS-crap off the machine... Scott -- =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID |"If I can't have my coffee, I'm just | 0x54B171B9 | like a dried up piece of roast goat" QMW College, London, UK | 0xAA775B8B | -- J. S. Bach. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Nov 23 09:22:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA08132 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:22:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.gtn.com (mail.gtn.com [194.77.0.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08041 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:21:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.gtn.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id SAA09811; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 18:15:06 +0100 (MET) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA39268; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 17:46:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas) Message-ID: <19981123174602.A39226@klemm.gtn.com> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 17:46:02 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: Scott Mitchell , Gildas PERROT , Matthias Apitz Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pccardd on FreeBSD 3.0 for 3C589D and Xircom CEM56-100 References: <19981123093505.47024@sisis.de> <199811230900.KAA00634@breizh.francenet.fr> <19981123094833.B379@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19981123094833.B379@dcs.qmw.ac.uk>; from Scott Mitchell on Mon, Nov 23, 1998 at 09:48:33AM +0000 X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT SMP Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 23, 1998 at 09:48:33AM +0000, Scott Mitchell wrote: > > I'm working (very slowly) on the Ethernet part. AFAIK the modem side of > the card will already work. I really hope to have something available for > testers insode the next couple of weeks -- stay tuned. Please put me onto the list of testers. I have a P233MMX notebook with a Xircom 10/100 card on it (without Modem). Andreas /// -- Andreas Klemm http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas What gives you 90% more speed, for example, in kernel compilation ? http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~fsmp/SMP/akgraph-a/graph1.html "NT = Not Today" (Maggie Biggs) ``powered by FreeBSD SMP'' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Nov 23 09:59:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA12723 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:59:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA12714 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:59:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from harmony [10.0.0.6] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zi0G7-0007Ah-00; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:58:47 -0700 Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.1/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA02560; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:58:52 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199811231758.KAA02560@harmony.village.org> To: Gildas PERROT Subject: Re: pccardd on FreeBSD 3.0 for 3C589D and Xircom CEM56-100 Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:00:52 +0100." <199811230900.KAA00634@breizh.francenet.fr> References: <199811230900.KAA00634@breizh.francenet.fr> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:58:52 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <199811230900.KAA00634@breizh.francenet.fr> Gildas PERROT writes: : > > io 0x240-0x360 : > > irq 3 5 10 11 13 15 : > > memory 0xd4000 96k : Nov 23 09:02:55 breizh pccardd[296]: driver allocation failed for 3Com : Corporation I'd check to make sure that you don't have any memory, io or irq conflicts. This is generally the reason for getting the driver allocation failed. At least that's been my experience. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Nov 23 13:53:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA22486 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 13:53:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.eecis.udel.edu (louie.udel.edu [128.175.2.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA22480 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 13:53:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu) Received: from ren.eecis.udel.edu by mail.eecis.udel.edu id aa20068; 23 Nov 1998 16:46 EST To: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Xircom Driver Organization: Mos Eisley Candy Store Reply-To: alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 16:46:18 -0500 From: Jerry Alexandratos Message-ID: <199811231646.aa20068@mail.eecis.udel.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Quick question... Will the new Xircom combo driver work with the Xircom Realport cards? --Jerry 8) Jerry Alexandratos % - % "Nothing inhabits my (8 8) alexandr@louie.udel.edu % - % thoughts, and oblivion (8 8) darkstar@strauss.udel.edu % - % drives my desires." (8 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Nov 24 01:40:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA29269 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 01:40:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hotpoint.dcs.qmw.ac.uk (hotpoint.dcs.qmw.ac.uk [138.37.88.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA29247 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 01:40:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scott@dcs.qmw.ac.uk) Received: from brunos-sun.dcs.qmw.ac.uk [138.37.88.185]; by hotpoint.dcs.qmw.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.5/S-4.0) with SMTP; id JAA07021; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 09:39:59 GMT Received: locally by brunos-sun (SMI-8.6/QMW-client-3.2b); poster "scott"; id JAA15588; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 09:38:55 GMT Message-ID: <19981124093855.C18485@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 09:38:55 +0000 From: Scott Mitchell To: alexandr@mail.eecis.udel.edu, mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Xircom Driver References: <199811231646.aa20068@mail.eecis.udel.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199811231646.aa20068@mail.eecis.udel.edu>; from Jerry Alexandratos on Mon, Nov 23, 1998 at 04:46:18PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 23, 1998 at 04:46:18PM -0500, Jerry Alexandratos wrote: > Quick question... > > Will the new Xircom combo driver work with the Xircom Realport cards? That's the Ethernet/modem/ISDN in a honking great type III card thing, right? I guess the Ethernet part might work if it's internally equivalent to something the driver already supports (I forget exactly what that is right now, probably nothing newer than the CE3-100 could be guaranteed). Do you know if it works with the Linux driver? The Xircom driver project is only just getting off the ground, so I unfortunately can't predict right now what will ever actually work :) If anyone out there with a Xircom card and more device driver experience than me wants to get their hands dirty too, please let me know! Cheers, Scott -- =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID |"If I can't have my coffee, I'm just | 0x54B171B9 | like a dried up piece of roast goat" QMW College, London, UK | 0xAA775B8B | -- J. S. Bach. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Nov 25 02:22:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA18491 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 02:22:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zed.ludd.luth.se (zed.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA18486 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 02:22:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pb@ludd.luth.se) Received: from father.ludd.luth.se (pb@father.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.18]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16911 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:22:34 +0100 From: Peter Brevik Received: (pb@localhost) by father.ludd.luth.se (8.6.11/8.6.11) id LAA11306 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:22:33 +0100 Message-Id: <199811251022.LAA11306@father.ludd.luth.se> Subject: Advice Usenet - mobile phones To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:22:33 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL15 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I wonder if anyone can give my an advice on a usenet group that is useful for topics like what mobile phone (GSM) will work with PC-unix etc.. ? Regards /Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Nov 26 14:52:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA12909 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 14:52:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hotmail.com (f179.hotmail.com [207.82.251.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA12898 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 14:52:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from repenting@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 6606 invoked by uid 0); 26 Nov 1998 22:52:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19981126225200.6605.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.57.150.30 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 14:51:59 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.57.150.30] From: "Mike Del" To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Networking problems, Please Help! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 14:51:59 PST Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello All, I am having a networking problem, and It would really make my day if someone could help me out. I have been trying to get this to work for 3 days could someone help? I have a freebsd box(10.0.0.1) networked with windows 95 box(10.0.0.2) via a hub. ie. freebsd -> hub <- windows I can ping the windows box(10.0.0.2) from the freebsd box(10.0.0.1),but CANNOT ping the freebsd box(10.0.0.1) from the windows box(10.0.0.2) The link lights on the NICs and the hub are on, so the cable connection is working just fine. When I ping the freebsd box(10.0.0.1) I get: ------ C:\WINDOWS>ping 10.0.0.1 Pinging 10.0.0.1 with 32 bytes of data: Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. ------ Here is the route table on the Windows 95 Box(10.0.0.2): ----- C:\WINDOWS>netstat -rn Route Table Active Routes: Network Address Netmask Gateway Address Interface Metric 10.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 10.0.0.2 10.0.0.2 1 10.0.0.2 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1 10.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 10.0.0.2 10.0.0.2 1 127.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 1 224.0.0.0 224.0.0.0 10.0.0.2 10.0.0.2 1 255.255.255.255 255.255.255.255 10.0.0.2 10.0.0.2 1 ----- I am using a subnet mask (netmask) of 255.255.255.0, I have also tried using a subnet mask (netmask) of 255.0.0.0. Both of these did not change what is happening. Any Ideas? I really need to get this network working, so all help is needed. Thanks :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Nov 27 11:32:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA18886 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 11:32:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hotmail.com (f317.hotmail.com [207.82.250.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA18878 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 11:32:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from repenting@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 1232 invoked by uid 0); 27 Nov 1998 19:32:33 -0000 Message-ID: <19981127193233.1231.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.57.150.36 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 11:32:32 PST X-Originating-IP: [209.57.150.36] From: "Mike Del" To: repenting@hotmail.com, mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Networking problems, Please Help! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 11:32:32 PST Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >From trost@cloud.rain.com Thu Nov 26 20:04:58 1998 >Received: from [199.2.111.1] by hotmail.com (1.0) with SMTP id MHotMail3089592298903506532503333882547315900; Thu Nov 26 20:04:58 1998 >Received: (qmail 7342 invoked by uid 4); 27 Nov 1998 04:05:46 -0000 >Received: (qmail 9755 invoked from network); 27 Nov 1998 04:05:14 -0000 >Received: from localhost.cloud.rain.com (HELO cloud.rain.com) (127.0.0.1) > by localhost.cloud.rain.com with SMTP; 27 Nov 1998 04:05:14 -0000 >To: "Mike Del" >reply-to: mobile@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: Networking problems, Please Help! >References: <19981126225200.6605.qmail@hotmail.com> >In-reply-to: Your message of Thu, 26 Nov 1998 14:51:59 PST. > <19981126225200.6605.qmail@hotmail.com> >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Content-ID: <9751.912139514.1@cloud.rain.com> >Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 20:05:14 -0800 >Message-ID: <9752.912139514@cloud.rain.com> >From: Bill Trost > >This doesn't really feel like it belongs in -mobile, but while you're here.. > >"Mike Del" writes: > I can ping the windows box(10.0.0.2) from the freebsd box(10.0.0.1),but > CANNOT ping the freebsd box(10.0.0.1) from the windows box(10.0.0.2) > The link lights on the NICs and the hub are on, so the cable connection > is working just fine. > >What does tcpdump show you when you run it while the Windoids box is pinging >the Freebsd box? Sorry about posting this to -mobile, but the freebsd box is a notebook with a 3Com Etherlink III 3C589. After I posted the message, I was looking around, and found some stuff.... When the freebsd pings the winbloz the return time is really bad, I am talking in the 1000ms -to- 19000ms range. So the windows box could ping the freebsd, but I think the windows ping doesn't want to wait for returns in that horrible range. Why are the pings not coming back fast? The connection distance is only 50feet, 10baseT. Any Ideas? Thanks once again. :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Nov 27 13:51:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA27681 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 13:51:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA27676 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 13:50:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA16520; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 13:50:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA07753; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 13:50:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 13:50:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811272150.NAA07753@vashon.polstra.com> To: repenting@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Networking problems, Please Help! Newsgroups: polstra.freebsd.mobile In-Reply-To: <19981126225200.6605.qmail@hotmail.com> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article <19981126225200.6605.qmail@hotmail.com>, Mike Del wrote: > > I am having a networking problem, and It would really make my day if > someone could help me out. I have been trying to get this to work > for 3 days could someone help? > > I have a freebsd box(10.0.0.1) networked with windows 95 box(10.0.0.2) > via a hub. ie. freebsd -> hub <- windows > > I can ping the windows box(10.0.0.2) from the freebsd box(10.0.0.1),but > CANNOT ping the freebsd box(10.0.0.1) from the windows box(10.0.0.2) > The link lights on the NICs and the hub are on, so the cable connection > is working just fine. I wouldn't assume that the cable is OK just based on that. It's not unusual for the link lights come on even though the cable is bad. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." -- H. L. Mencken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Nov 27 16:09:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA12096 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:09:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA12091 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:09:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from harmony [10.0.0.6] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zjXwL-0002MV-00; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 17:08:45 -0700 Received: (from imp@localhost) by harmony.village.org (8.9.1/8.8.3) id RAA14667 for mobile@freebsd.org; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 17:07:50 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 17:07:50 -0700 (MST) From: Warner Losh Message-Id: <199811280007.RAA14667@harmony.village.org> To: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Flash card support Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What's the current level of flash card support in FreeBSD? A quick grep of the kernel shows nothing interesting.... Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Nov 27 16:23:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA13699 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:23:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13694 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:23:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA01540; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:21:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199811280021.QAA01540@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Warner Losh cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Flash card support In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 27 Nov 1998 17:07:50 MST." <199811280007.RAA14667@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:21:43 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > What's the current level of flash card support in FreeBSD? A quick grep > of the kernel shows nothing interesting.... I think the PAO folks have Flash ATA support going. Apart from that and the M-Systems disk-on-chip stuff, I think the cupboard is bare. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Nov 27 16:28:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA14341 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:28:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA14336 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:28:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from harmony [10.0.0.6] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zjYF0-0002N6-00; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 17:28:02 -0700 Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.1/8.8.3) with ESMTP id RAA14896; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 17:27:07 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199811280027.RAA14896@harmony.village.org> To: Mike Smith Subject: Re: Flash card support Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:21:43 PST." <199811280021.QAA01540@dingo.cdrom.com> References: <199811280021.QAA01540@dingo.cdrom.com> Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 17:27:07 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <199811280021.QAA01540@dingo.cdrom.com> Mike Smith writes: : I think the PAO folks have Flash ATA support going. Apart from that : and the M-Systems disk-on-chip stuff, I think the cupboard is bare. I have 4 "4MB Flash Memory" cards, three by AMP (AMP INCORPORATED, FLASH SERIES-1"), and a fourth by Panasonic that is labeled F-EEPROM BN-04MHFR and a ICMC V4.0 as well as a lot of Japanese warnings about how to use (and not abuse) this card). Looks like I'll have to write a driver for this stuff. Any ideas if there is a free Flash File System implementation around? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Nov 27 16:43:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA15381 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:43:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA15375 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:43:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA01046; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:41:39 +0100 (CET) To: Warner Losh cc: Mike Smith , mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Flash card support In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 27 Nov 1998 17:27:07 MST." <199811280027.RAA14896@harmony.village.org> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:41:39 +0100 Message-ID: <1044.912213699@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Any ideas if there is a free Flash File System implementation around? Don't kill me for this, but LFS would be close to ideal... -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." "ttyv0" -- What UNIX calls a $20K state-of-the-art, 3D, hi-res color terminal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Nov 27 16:53:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA16130 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:53:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16125 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:53:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA01746; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:51:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199811280051.QAA01746@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Warner Losh cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Flash card support In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 27 Nov 1998 17:27:07 MST." <199811280027.RAA14896@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:51:04 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > In message <199811280021.QAA01540@dingo.cdrom.com> Mike Smith writes: > : I think the PAO folks have Flash ATA support going. Apart from that > : and the M-Systems disk-on-chip stuff, I think the cupboard is bare. > > I have 4 "4MB Flash Memory" cards, three by AMP (AMP INCORPORATED, > FLASH SERIES-1"), and a fourth by Panasonic that is labeled F-EEPROM > BN-04MHFR and a ICMC V4.0 as well as a lot of Japanese warnings about > how to use (and not abuse) this card). > > Looks like I'll have to write a driver for this stuff. > > Any ideas if there is a free Flash File System implementation around? Not as far as I'm aware. You would want to be compatible with FTL (Flash Translation Layer), which is based on M-Systems' TrueFFS, which is very tightly controlled. FTL was pulled from the PCCARD '95 spec (because of patent issues with M-systems), but their blurb says that it's now included. It looks like it's time for us to get a new copy of the spec (perhaps a subscription even). (I've checked in the stuff that Nate loaned me, and it's not there, sorry.) If you're interested in doing this, pester me again when I get back from Australia (try around the 20th or so) and I'll get onto it. We've been meaning to do this for a while now. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Nov 27 17:00:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16868 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 17:00:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA16861 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 17:00:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA01774; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:52:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199811280052.QAA01774@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: Warner Losh , Mike Smith , mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Flash card support In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 28 Nov 1998 01:41:39 +0100." <1044.912213699@critter.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:52:53 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > >Any ideas if there is a free Flash File System implementation around? > > Don't kill me for this, but LFS would be close to ideal... Are you sure? I don't think it bothers with anything like block forwarding or write levelling... -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Nov 27 20:13:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA01275 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 20:13:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from enterprise.cs.unm.edu (enterprise.cs.unm.edu [198.59.151.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA01263; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 20:13:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from colinj@cs.unm.edu) Received: from viper.cs.unm.edu [198.59.151.25] by enterprise.cs.unm.edu with smtp (Exim 1.80 #2) id 0zjblJ-0000ef-00; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 21:13:37 -0700 Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 21:14:36 -0700 (MST) From: Colin Eric Johnson To: Gary Palmer Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dell Latitude CPi In-Reply-To: <3244.911395578@gjp.erols.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 18 Nov 1998, Gary Palmer wrote: > Christian Kuhtz wrote in message ID > <19981115210831.A5535@ns1.adsu.bellsouth.com>: > > Anyone out there who also has a Dell Latitude CPi 266XD notebook and would > > like to share configuration experiences? If so, please contact me at > > ck@adsu.bellsouth.com. I will summarize. > > I have one (through work). Seems to work OK. Caveats: > > 1) Uses the NeoMagic display chipset, so either wait for the new XF86 release > or get AccelX from www.xig.com (I prefer the latter ... accelx is just > so much nicer. No offense to the XFree group) > > 2) Sound controller was interesting to get working. The following line in > your config file should get it working tho: > > device pcm0 at isa ? port ? tty irq 5 drq 0 vector pcmintr > > Its a Crystal 4237b (which I thought was a PnP chip, but PnP probes find > nothign) according to Dell, but FreeBSD finds it as a ``SoundBlaster Pro 3.2''. Thanks for posting this, I've been having one hell of a time getting the sound to work. I've added the above line to my config and rebuilt and installed the kernel. I'm getting feedback out of the speakers but nothing else. Is there something that I might want to do in /dev to make this play nice? I had my machine configured to work with the OSS sound drivers but that proved to not work so well. I get the following from /dev/sndstat: trurl# cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (981022) Nov 27 1998 20:56:33 Installed devices: pcm0: at 0x220 irq 5 dma 0:0 and I did a ./MAKEDEV snd0 as well. What else might I look at? Colin E. Johnson | colinj@unm.edu | http://www.unm.edu/~colinj/ the large print giveth, and the small print taketh away ---Tom Waits To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Nov 28 00:17:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA17547 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 00:17:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA17539 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 00:17:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA04749; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 09:16:00 +0100 (CET) To: Mike Smith cc: Warner Losh , mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Flash card support In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:52:53 PST." <199811280052.QAA01774@dingo.cdrom.com> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 09:16:00 +0100 Message-ID: <4747.912240960@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <199811280052.QAA01774@dingo.cdrom.com>, Mike Smith writes: >> >> >Any ideas if there is a free Flash File System implementation around? >> >> Don't kill me for this, but LFS would be close to ideal... > >Are you sure? I don't think it bothers with anything like block >forwarding or write levelling... Both would be trivial to add. I don't think M-systems considers their FTL any less a company secret than before. I have the source here because of the DOC2000 driver (which I have promised to do a (binary) release of this weekend if at all possible.) Designing and implementing a FTL isn't hard, but it would be much smarter to teack LFS the few remaining ropes, since a flash-aware filesystem can achive much higher performance than a FTL trying to look like a disk. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." "ttyv0" -- What UNIX calls a $20K state-of-the-art, 3D, hi-res color terminal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Nov 28 00:34:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA18859 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 00:34:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles303.castles.com [208.214.167.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA18854 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 00:34:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA00741; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 00:28:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199811280828.AAA00741@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: Mike Smith , Warner Losh , mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Flash card support In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 28 Nov 1998 09:16:00 +0100." <4747.912240960@critter.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 00:28:52 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > In message <199811280052.QAA01774@dingo.cdrom.com>, Mike Smith writes: > >> > >> >Any ideas if there is a free Flash File System implementation around? > >> > >> Don't kill me for this, but LFS would be close to ideal... > > > >Are you sure? I don't think it bothers with anything like block > >forwarding or write levelling... > > Both would be trivial to add. > > I don't think M-systems considers their FTL any less a company secret > than before. I have the source here because of the DOC2000 driver It's documented in the PCMCIA 6.1 spec, at least to the extent of the format on the card, so it's probably possible to implement at least the basic functionality from that. > (which I have promised to do a (binary) release of this weekend if at > all possible.) > > Designing and implementing a FTL isn't hard, but it would be much smarter > to teack LFS the few remaining ropes, since a flash-aware filesystem can > achive much higher performance than a FTL trying to look like a disk. The major advantage with flash cards is portability, not performance. LFS is so badly broken (it seems) that making it play nicely with flash memory would be a lot less work than simply making it work at all. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Nov 28 03:38:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA02297 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 03:38:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns.skylink.it (ns.skylink.it [194.177.113.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA02279 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 03:37:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dirkx@webweaving.org) Received: from kim.ispra.webweaving.org (va-83.skylink.it [194.177.113.83]) by ns.skylink.it (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA32393; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:36:24 +0100 Received: from webweaving.org (brunte.ispra.webweaving.org [10.0.0.5]) by kim.ispra.webweaving.org (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17744; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 11:27:07 GMT X-Passed: MX on Ispra.WebWeaving.org Sat, 28 Nov 1998 11:27:07 GMT and masked X-No-Spam: Neither the receipients nor the senders email address(s) are to be used for Unsolicited (Commercial) Email without the explicit written consent of either party; as a per-message fee is incurred for inbound and outbound traffic to the originator. Posted-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 11:27:07 GMT Message-ID: <347F18AA.90271FE5@webweaving.org> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 11:16:59 -0800 From: Dirk-Willem van Gulik Reply-To: dirk.vangulik@jrc.it Organization: WebWeaving X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: nl,en,de,it,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warner Losh , mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, dirk.vangulik@jrc.it Subject: Re: Flash card support References: <199811280007.RAA14667@harmony.village.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Warner Losh wrote: > What's the current level of flash card support in FreeBSD? A quick grep > of the kernel shows nothing interesting.... If with flash-card you mean 'CompactFlash' card, then with PAO, it works like a dream. With the unpatched 3.0 kernel it works too; but you have to be little more careful when taking out the card; i.e. anything mounted and it hangs hard. Likewise for a pccardc power down. But with PAO, no problems at all. Though my exprience is limitited to just 6 cards from Sandisk, Kodak, Hitatchi and an IBM card (5, 5, 10, 35Mb and 128Mb) they are so similar that I really would be surprized if it could not be generalized. Judging from the list of entries in PAO's /etc/pccardc.conf this is a general thing. (Or it is because everyone OEMs of sandisk it seems :-) They appear as a WDC1770 controller; i.e just compile in a wdc2. On a desktop machine you obviously need to compile cdr0 etc in as well. I use them with my kodak camera, my Psion 5 and with a plastic adaptor thing on a Vaio laptop and, with a ISA/PCMCIA adaptor from kento on two desktop machines. To ensure compatibility with the kodak camera and the psion I use a normal dos file system on them. It mounts right away. The only catch is that the camera gets unhappy if you fiddle with upper and lower case file names; and when there is a space in the name. But apparently the latest firmware upgrade from kodak fixes this. But I've not tried this. So I modified the msdos fs to always write un uppercase and be a little less strickt when matching in unix. Dw. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Nov 28 07:23:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA18874 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 07:23:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA18869 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 07:23:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from harmony [10.0.0.6] by rover.village.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zjmDE-0003RH-00; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 08:23:08 -0700 Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.1/8.8.3) with ESMTP id IAA20477; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 08:22:21 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199811281522.IAA20477@harmony.village.org> To: dirk.vangulik@jrc.it Subject: Re: Flash card support Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 28 Nov 1997 11:16:59 PST." <347F18AA.90271FE5@webweaving.org> References: <347F18AA.90271FE5@webweaving.org> <199811280007.RAA14667@harmony.village.org> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 08:22:21 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <347F18AA.90271FE5@webweaving.org> Dirk-Willem van Gulik writes: : If with flash-card you mean 'CompactFlash' card, then with PAO, it works : like a dream. With the unpatched 3.0 kernel it works too; but you have to be : little more careful when taking out the card; i.e. anything mounted and it : hangs hard. Likewise for a pccardc power down. But with PAO, no problems at : all. No. I mean flash-card as in FLASH memory (not to be confused with ATA FLASH memory, which is what you have). Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Nov 28 07:38:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA19910 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 07:38:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from satty.npi.msu.su (satty.npi.msu.su [158.250.20.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA19902 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 07:38:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dima@divan.machaon.ru) Received: from divan.machaon.ru ([195.230.75.134]) by satty.npi.msu.su (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA07482; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 18:32:46 +0300 (MSK) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 18:32:12 +0300 (MSK) From: Dmitry Khrustalev To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Flash card support In-Reply-To: <1044.912213699@critter.freebsd.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 28 Nov 1998, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > >Any ideas if there is a free Flash File System implementation around? > > Don't kill me for this, but LFS would be close to ideal... > There is ifile inode pointer in LFS superblock that has to be written every time ifile inode address changes, other than that it would be fine. -Dima > -- > Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member > phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." > "ttyv0" -- What UNIX calls a $20K state-of-the-art, 3D, hi-res color terminal > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Nov 28 15:55:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA26831 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 15:55:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from enterprise.cs.unm.edu (enterprise.cs.unm.edu [198.59.151.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA26826 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 15:55:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from colinj@cs.unm.edu) Received: from viper.cs.unm.edu [198.59.151.25] by enterprise.cs.unm.edu with smtp (Exim 1.80 #2) id 0zjuDD-00023O-00; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 16:55:39 -0700 Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 16:56:39 -0700 (MST) From: Colin Eric Johnson To: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dell Latitude CPi In-Reply-To: <3244.911395578@gjp.erols.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 18 Nov 1998, Gary Palmer wrote: > Christian Kuhtz wrote in message ID > <19981115210831.A5535@ns1.adsu.bellsouth.com>: > > Anyone out there who also has a Dell Latitude CPi 266XD notebook and would > > like to share configuration experiences? If so, please contact me at > > ck@adsu.bellsouth.com. I will summarize. > > I have one (through work). Seems to work OK. Caveats: > > 1) Uses the NeoMagic display chipset, so either wait for the new XF86 release > or get AccelX from www.xig.com (I prefer the latter ... accelx is just > so much nicer. No offense to the XFree group) I'd have to agree 100% on this one. I just tried the new XFree86-3.3.3 release and the NeoMagic support just isn't there yet. The AccelX is great! > 2) Sound controller was interesting to get working. The following line in > your config file should get it working tho: > > device pcm0 at isa ? port ? tty irq 5 drq 0 vector pcmintr > > Its a Crystal 4237b (which I thought was a PnP chip, but PnP probes find > nothign) according to Dell, but FreeBSD finds it as a ``SoundBlaster Pro 3.2''. I've been having a lot of trouble with the sound on mine. I seem to have the kernel configured and built properly. But I can't seem to get sound out to work, or rather, the only sound I get out of the speakers is what seems to be coming in over the microphone. It's as if what I am getting is just pass-through but I can't seem to get anything to play out of the speakers. Anyone got any clues on what I might look for on this sound thing? > It ships (or mine did, probably as options that the company specified) with a > Psion Dacom v.90 faxmodem (the ``Gold Card'') which seems to work (haven't > really tested it yet), and a ``Dell Fast Ethernet'' which is actually a 3com > CardBus 10/100 card (which doesn't work at all under FreeBSD as we have no > CardBus support). The Psion modem has worked great for me thus far. I've got no complaints at all. The fax portion has been very sketchy and I've had a lot of trouble with getting it to work with hylafax, but that's not too critical right now. > All in all, not bad if you don't have to pay for it :) Actually I did pay for main and I like it a lot ;-) but then I bought it because it had such a good track record in terms of handling abuse. Colin E. Johnson | colinj@unm.edu | http://www.unm.edu/~colinj/ ". . .so I simply point to where I keep the soul I have, right by the exit, just next to the blues." --Nick Hornby _High_Fidelity_ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Nov 28 16:14:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA29944 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 16:14:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA29930 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 16:14:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id KAA03790; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:44:25 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id KAA10021; Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:44:25 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981129104424.P6182@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:44:24 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Colin Eric Johnson , mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: XFree86 and NeoMagic (was: Dell Latitude CPi) References: <3244.911395578@gjp.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Colin Eric Johnson on Sat, Nov 28, 1998 at 04:56:39PM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Saturday, 28 November 1998 at 16:56:39 -0700, Colin Eric Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 18 Nov 1998, Gary Palmer wrote: > >> Christian Kuhtz wrote in message ID >> <19981115210831.A5535@ns1.adsu.bellsouth.com>: >>> Anyone out there who also has a Dell Latitude CPi 266XD notebook and would >>> like to share configuration experiences? If so, please contact me at >>> ck@adsu.bellsouth.com. I will summarize. >> >> I have one (through work). Seems to work OK. Caveats: >> >> 1) Uses the NeoMagic display chipset, so either wait for the new XF86 release >> or get AccelX from www.xig.com (I prefer the latter ... accelx is just >> so much nicer. No offense to the XFree group) > > I'd have to agree 100% on this one. I just tried the new XFree86-3.3.3 > release and the NeoMagic support just isn't there yet. How did you determine that? According to the release notes, it is. > The AccelX is great! I'm using AcceleratedX. I'm about to convert back to XFree86 when the multihead support becomes available. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Nov 28 16:38:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA01876 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 16:38:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gjp.erols.com (alex-va-n008c079.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA01871 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 16:38:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA71065; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 19:37:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Greg Lehey cc: Colin Eric Johnson , mobile@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: XFree86 and NeoMagic (was: Dell Latitude CPi) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:44:24 +1030." <19981129104424.P6182@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 19:37:43 -0500 Message-ID: <71061.912299863@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greg Lehey wrote in message ID <19981129104424.P6182@freebie.lemis.com>: > > I'd have to agree 100% on this one. I just tried the new XFree86-3.3.3 > > release and the NeoMagic support just isn't there yet. > > How did you determine that? According to the release notes, it is. He probably means that the support is weak, and possibly buggy, not that its non-existant :) It is after all the first rev of XFree that has had NeoMagic support, and its likely to have issues. Dontcha just love the english language? Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Nov 28 18:07:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA09410 for freebsd-mobile-outgoing; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 18:07:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from enterprise.cs.unm.edu (enterprise.cs.unm.edu [198.59.151.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA09403; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 18:07:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from colinj@cs.unm.edu) Received: from viper.cs.unm.edu [198.59.151.25] by enterprise.cs.unm.edu with smtp (Exim 1.80 #2) id 0zjwGg-0002bk-00; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 19:07:22 -0700 Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 19:08:21 -0700 (MST) From: Colin Eric Johnson To: Gary Palmer Cc: Greg Lehey , mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XFree86 and NeoMagic (was: Dell Latitude CPi) In-Reply-To: <71061.912299863@gjp.erols.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 28 Nov 1998, Gary Palmer wrote: > Greg Lehey wrote in message ID > <19981129104424.P6182@freebie.lemis.com>: > > > I'd have to agree 100% on this one. I just tried the new XFree86-3.3.3 > > > release and the NeoMagic support just isn't there yet. > > > > How did you determine that? According to the release notes, it is. > > He probably means that the support is weak, and possibly buggy, not that its > non-existant :) It is after all the first rev of XFree that has had NeoMagic > support, and its likely to have issues. > > Dontcha just love the english language? Good on ya Gary, hit the nail right on the head. I came to the conclusion when I built XFree-3.3.3 and set it up to handle my NeoMagic chipset and it just didn't work. Go figure. Colin E. Johnson | colinj@unm.edu | http://www.unm.edu/~colinj/ Dumbfounding question 2: Someone once asked me why I care. I couldn't imagine what life would be like without caring. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message