From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 21 14:02:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA28774 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 14:02:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (castles145.castles.com [208.214.165.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA28765; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 14:02:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@antipodes.cdrom.com) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by antipodes.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA01030; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 12:57:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806211957.MAA01030@antipodes.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Amancio Hasty Jr cc: nirva@ishiboo.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, rhh@ct.picker.com, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: X-10 Mouse Remote patch In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 Jun 1998 23:22:22 PDT." <199806190622.XAA26800@netcom18.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 12:57:00 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Coming to think about it . I am beginning to see your point : > moused is unsuitable for our purposes and it will best to start > a new with a well architected daemon which is capable of > providing multiple services from multiple input sources. Actually, moused is quite amenable to the manipulation required to make it fully modular. If you (generic) have the time to do it, nobody is going to complain. Meanwhile, we have support for another peripheral. Stop complaining and start helping. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 21 14:11:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA00213 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 14:11:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA00208; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 14:11:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10615; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 14:10:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806212110.OAA10615@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Mike Smith cc: Amancio Hasty Jr , nirva@ishiboo.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, rhh@ct.picker.com, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: X-10 Mouse Remote patch In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 21 Jun 1998 12:57:00 PDT." <199806211957.MAA01030@antipodes.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 14:10:50 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nice Try!! I am working on a new daemon and in fact I am coding it right now . As for moused being a flexible modular daemon I disagree. Amancio > > Coming to think about it . I am beginning to see your point : > > moused is unsuitable for our purposes and it will best to start > > a new with a well architected daemon which is capable of > > providing multiple services from multiple input sources. > > Actually, moused is quite amenable to the manipulation required to make > it fully modular. If you (generic) have the time to do it, nobody is > going to complain. > > Meanwhile, we have support for another peripheral. Stop complaining > and start helping. > > -- > \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith > \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au > \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org > \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 21 14:18:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01252 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 14:18:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (castles145.castles.com [208.214.165.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01231; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 14:18:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@antipodes.cdrom.com) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by antipodes.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03183; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 11:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806211851.LAA03183@antipodes.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: sos@FreeBSD.ORG cc: rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper), nirva@ishiboo.com, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: X-10 Mouse Remote patch In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 Jun 1998 15:06:36 +0200." <199806181306.PAA22009@sos.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 11:51:06 -0700 From: Mike Smith Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id OAA01233 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > And it has NO business in moused whatsoever, its a hack and it doesn't > belong there. I'm sorry I havn't noticed this before, but its should be > ripped out ASAP, I would never have allowed it in there if I had > found out before. Actually, no. The MouseRemote is a mouse, amongst other things, and it's specifically intended to be connected inline with mice. As such, our protocol handler for mouse data streams is the correct place to put it. Ripping it out without simultaneously coming up with an equally functional and architecturally 'better' solution is not going to endear you to anyone. I did actually propose to Randall the implementation of a stackable 'interception' layer, again to be managed by moused, however with only one device (so far) in this particular circumstance, it didn't seem worth the effort. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 21 14:20:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01478 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 14:20:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (castles145.castles.com [208.214.165.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01404; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 14:19:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@antipodes.cdrom.com) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by antipodes.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA01135; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 13:15:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806212015.NAA01135@antipodes.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: sos@FreeBSD.ORG cc: hasty@netcom.com (Amancio Hasty Jr), nirva@ishiboo.com, rhh@ct.picker.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: X-10 Mouse Remote patch In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 19 Jun 1998 18:08:03 +0200." <199806191608.SAA01533@sos.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 13:15:05 -0700 From: Mike Smith Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id OAA01419 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > And about leaving, well, I'm afraid you guys will have to stick > with me :), I'm going to shake this (FreeBSD) out as long as it > takes, or until somebody carries me out screaming :) Good. So I don't have to pull any punches. 8) > On that note, I think we badly need a "house clean" through > the entire system, especially the kernel, but also parts of > userland, we have way to much crap in there because of not > thinking things through before pulling the trigger. If my 12+ > years in this business has learned me anything its the 80/20 > rule: think it through for 80% of the time then use 20% of > the time to implement it correctly. There hasn't been 12 years of communal software development at this level. What there has been suggests to me that a better approach is to spend 5% of the time implementing it as quickly as possible. 65% of the time arguing about why the implementation sucks, 20% of the time on abortive reimplementations and then 10% on doing it better. This 10% is then the leading 5% for the next iteration. > Well, I probably wasn't on multimedia at that time, and that doesn't > make the hack more "right", besides there is only so many things > you can keep an eye on.. The MouseRemote support is no better or worse than the support for other not-very-mouselike things that are already in there. If you have time to design and implement a better, generic "input class" structure, be our guest. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 21 15:25:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA13002 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 15:25:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (castles145.castles.com [208.214.165.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12977; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 15:25:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@antipodes.cdrom.com) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by antipodes.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA01554; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 14:20:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806212120.OAA01554@antipodes.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Amancio Hasty cc: Mike Smith , Amancio Hasty Jr , nirva@ishiboo.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, rhh@ct.picker.com, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: X-10 Mouse Remote patch In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 21 Jun 1998 14:10:50 PDT." <199806212110.OAA10615@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 14:19:59 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Nice Try!! > > I am working on a new daemon and in fact I am coding it right now . Care to discuss your design? Having planned it all for Randall in the original MouseRemote design discussion, I've actually covered most of the issues already, and I'd be interested both in hearing what you were planning as well as sharing my work. > As for moused being a flexible modular daemon I disagree. I didn't say it was, I said it was amenable to being made that way. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 21 15:34:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA14806 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 15:34:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA14748; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 15:34:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA01045; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 00:32:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) Message-Id: <199806212232.AAA01045@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: X-10 Mouse Remote patch In-Reply-To: <199806211851.LAA03183@antipodes.cdrom.com> from Mike Smith at "Jun 21, 98 11:51:06 am" To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 00:32:28 +0200 (CEST) Cc: sos@FreeBSD.ORG, rhh@ct.picker.com, nirva@ishiboo.com, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG From: Søren Schmidt Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In reply to Mike Smith who wrote: > > And it has NO business in moused whatsoever, its a hack and it doesn't > > belong there. I'm sorry I havn't noticed this before, but its should be > > ripped out ASAP, I would never have allowed it in there if I had > > found out before. > > Actually, no. The MouseRemote is a mouse, amongst other things, and > it's specifically intended to be connected inline with mice. As such, > our protocol handler for mouse data streams is the correct place to put > it. Ripping it out without simultaneously coming up with an equally > functional and architecturally 'better' solution is not going to endear > you to anyone. Hmm. > I did actually propose to Randall the implementation of a stackable > 'interception' layer, again to be managed by moused, however with only > one device (so far) in this particular circumstance, it didn't seem > worth the effort. No but it would have been the right thing, now we have to defend moused against every crude hack that comes along, because of precedence :( It wouldn't have been THAT hard to do it right to begin with. I'm still saying its wrong, and bad engineering.... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end? .. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 21 15:37:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15272 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 15:37:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15221; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 15:36:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA01054; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 00:35:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) Message-Id: <199806212235.AAA01054@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: X-10 Mouse Remote patch In-Reply-To: <199806212015.NAA01135@antipodes.cdrom.com> from Mike Smith at "Jun 21, 98 01:15:05 pm" To: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 00:35:33 +0200 (CEST) Cc: sos@FreeBSD.ORG, hasty@netcom.com, nirva@ishiboo.com, rhh@ct.picker.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp From: Søren Schmidt Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In reply to Mike Smith who wrote: > > On that note, I think we badly need a "house clean" through > > the entire system, especially the kernel, but also parts of > > userland, we have way to much crap in there because of not > > thinking things through before pulling the trigger. If my 12+ > > years in this business has learned me anything its the 80/20 > > rule: think it through for 80% of the time then use 20% of > > the time to implement it correctly. > > There hasn't been 12 years of communal software development at this > level. What there has been suggests to me that a better approach is to > spend 5% of the time implementing it as quickly as possible. 65% of > the time arguing about why the implementation sucks, 20% of the time on > abortive reimplementations and then 10% on doing it better. > > This 10% is then the leading 5% for the next iteration. Get real :) > > Well, I probably wasn't on multimedia at that time, and that doesn't > > make the hack more "right", besides there is only so many things > > you can keep an eye on.. > > The MouseRemote support is no better or worse than the support for > other not-very-mouselike things that are already in there. If you have > time to design and implement a better, generic "input class" structure, > be our guest. Why should I do all the work ?? :) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end? .. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 21 15:41:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA16135 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 15:41:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA16030; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 15:40:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA01060; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 00:36:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) Message-Id: <199806212236.AAA01060@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: X-10 Mouse Remote patch In-Reply-To: <199806212110.OAA10615@rah.star-gate.com> from Amancio Hasty at "Jun 21, 98 02:10:50 pm" To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com (Amancio Hasty) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 00:36:54 +0200 (CEST) Cc: mike@smith.net.au, hasty@netcom.com, nirva@ishiboo.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, rhh@ct.picker.com, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp From: Søren Schmidt Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In reply to Amancio Hasty who wrote: > Nice Try!! > > I am working on a new daemon and in fact I am coding it right now . Cool!!, nice that somebody it listening... Go for it! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end? .. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 21 15:46:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA17270 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 15:46:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA17178; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 15:46:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11028; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 15:45:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806212245.PAA11028@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Mike Smith cc: Amancio Hasty Jr , nirva@ishiboo.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, rhh@ct.picker.com, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: X-10 Mouse Remote patch In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 21 Jun 1998 14:19:59 PDT." <199806212120.OAA01554@antipodes.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 15:45:57 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is not ready for public review however if you are interested where I am getting my inspiration , feel free to browse: http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~schmidt/ACE.html and it JAVA counterpart: http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~schmidt/JACE.html Lots of cool stuff there to build a flexible and dynamically configurable daemon. Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 21 15:54:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19021 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 15:54:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (castles145.castles.com [208.214.165.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18879; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 15:54:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@antipodes.cdrom.com) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by antipodes.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA01744; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 14:49:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806212149.OAA01744@antipodes.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: sos@FreeBSD.ORG cc: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith), rhh@ct.picker.com, nirva@ishiboo.com, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: X-10 Mouse Remote patch In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 22 Jun 1998 00:32:28 +0200." <199806212232.AAA01045@sos.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 14:49:16 -0700 From: Mike Smith Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id PAA18915 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > In reply to Mike Smith who wrote: > > I did actually propose to Randall the implementation of a stackable > > 'interception' layer, again to be managed by moused, however with only > > one device (so far) in this particular circumstance, it didn't seem > > worth the effort. > > No but it would have been the right thing, now we have to defend moused > against every crude hack that comes along, because of precedence :( That's my job, and I'm fully cognizant of that. > It wouldn't have been THAT hard to do it right to begin with. I tried; ask Randall. Given the alternatives (insist on purity and get nothing or accept what we're given for now and push for better later), I felt that something was better than nothing. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 21 15:55:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19161 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 15:55:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA19153; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 15:55:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11076; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 15:55:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806212255.PAA11076@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: sos@FreeBSD.ORG cc: mike@smith.net.au, hasty@netcom.com, nirva@ishiboo.com, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, rhh@ct.picker.com, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: X-10 Mouse Remote patch In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 22 Jun 1998 00:36:54 +0200." <199806212236.AAA01060@sos.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 15:55:48 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org No problem and I am actually having a good time at it. --------------- Say Randall, can you pretty please approach the XFree86 team to see if they can somehow fold in the X10 remote mouse support into the X server . Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 21 17:29:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA03959 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 17:29:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bleep.ishiboo.com (user5583@bleep.ishiboo.com [199.79.133.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA03946 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 17:29:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nirva@ishiboo.com) Received: (qmail 15884 invoked by uid 1000); 22 Jun 1998 00:29:21 -0000 Message-ID: <19980621202921.57824@bleep.ishiboo.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 20:29:21 -0400 From: Danny Dulai To: Mike Smith Cc: Randall Hopper , hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: X-10 Mouse Remote patch References: <199806181306.PAA22009@sos.freebsd.dk> <199806211851.LAA03183@antipodes.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: <199806211851.LAA03183@antipodes.cdrom.com>; from Mike Smith on Sun, Jun 21, 1998 at 11:51:06AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Quoting Mike Smith (mike@smith.net.au): > > And it has NO business in moused whatsoever, its a hack and it doesn't > > belong there. I'm sorry I havn't noticed this before, but its should be > > ripped out ASAP, I would never have allowed it in there if I had > > found out before. > > Actually, no. The MouseRemote is a mouse, amongst other things, and > it's specifically intended to be connected inline with mice. As such, > our protocol handler for mouse data streams is the correct place to put > it. Ripping it out without simultaneously coming up with an equally > functional and architecturally 'better' solution is not going to endear > you to anyone. > > I did actually propose to Randall the implementation of a stackable > 'interception' layer, again to be managed by moused, however with only > one device (so far) in this particular circumstance, it didn't seem > worth the effort. Right now, there is no way I can get the remote output that moused gives to /var/run/MouseRemote, and still run other mice on moused, AND having the remote's mouse functions disabled. The mouse remote's rf receiver gets far too much interference and causes my mouse pointer to jump around and buttons to be pressed randomly. The remote is uesless without turning off the mouse support. To solve this problem either add an option to moused to turn off mouse messages (and rename moused to something better), or use the model I suggested using remoted that splits mouse and remote events. Randall has expierenced the problems I'm getting, and I assume most others that have this remote do too. This is not a feature that '[isnt] worth the effort', its a mandatory feature for functionality. -- ___________________________________________________________________________ Danny Dulai Feet. Pumice. Lotion. http://www.ishiboo.com/~nirva/ nirva@ishiboo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 21 17:52:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA08450 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 17:52:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA08339; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 17:51:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA11370; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 17:51:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806220051.RAA11370@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Danny Dulai cc: Mike Smith , Randall Hopper , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: X-10 Mouse Remote patch In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 21 Jun 1998 20:29:21 EDT." <19980621202921.57824@bleep.ishiboo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 17:51:44 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just switch off the remote mouse at its junction box --- there is a little switch so use it. I am not sure that the remote mouse has any software functionality to disable itself . Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 21 18:30:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA15279 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 18:30:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA15188 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 18:30:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@cain.gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA14918; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:00:00 +0930 (CST) Message-Id: <199806220130.LAA14918@cain.gsoft.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Greg cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Quake2 and bad system call In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 20 Jun 1998 02:17:21 -0400." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:00:00 +0930 From: "Daniel O'Connor" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I've had Quake2 (That is QUake2-3.13 with 3.14a and 3.15a > subsequently expanded on top) fail with "bad system call" on > -current from early April and on -current from about 5/20. > Just wondering if anyone has a fix for this. I've seen the same > problem reported in the archives but didn't see a solution. Hmm.. Do you have shared memory installed on your system? I know Quake 2 uses shared mem when in X11 mode, and possibly uses it for GL rendering.. --------------------------------------------------------------------- |Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software | |http://www.gsoft.com.au | |The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to| |choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 21 18:37:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA16322 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 18:37:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA16290 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 18:37:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@cain.gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA15017; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:07:13 +0930 (CST) Message-Id: <199806220137.LAA15017@cain.gsoft.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Micah Mayo cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3DFX In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 20 Jun 1998 20:42:14 GMT." <199806202042.NAA14505@usr06.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:07:13 +0930 From: "Daniel O'Connor" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I got e-mail thrue the developers of the glide drivers for linsux and > they told me that there were no plans to port the drivers to FreeBSD > (i'm building a puter to run it and i'd get a monster3d card if there were > drivers for it..) Well, you can use the Linux ones.. They run fine under emulation, of course this means if you want to do developement for it you have to install the linux_devel port, and compile with that. But hey it actually works, since I have Quake 1 & 2 running on my machine :) --------------------------------------------------------------------- |Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software | |http://www.gsoft.com.au | |The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to| |choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 21 19:05:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA19409 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 19:05:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp03.primenet.com (daemon@smtp03.primenet.com [206.165.6.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA19399 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 19:05:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anxiety@primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp03.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA17973; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 19:05:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from ip210.atl.primenet.com(206.165.72.210), claiming to be "primenet.com" via SMTP by smtp03.primenet.com, id smtpd017902; Sun Jun 21 19:05:15 1998 Message-ID: <358DBC1D.1FD6C242@primenet.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:06:22 -0400 From: Micah Mayo X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Daniel O'Connor" CC: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3DFX References: <199806220137.LAA15017@cain.gsoft.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > I got e-mail thrue the developers of the glide drivers for linsux and > > they told me that there were no plans to port the drivers to FreeBSD > > (i'm building a puter to run it and i'd get a monster3d card if there were > > drivers for it..) > Well, you can use the Linux ones.. > They run fine under emulation, of course this means if you want to do > developement for it you have to install the linux_devel port, and compile with > that. > > But hey it actually works, since I have Quake 1 & 2 running on my machine :) Hey, thats groovy!I had wondered if that would work but doubted it because they were drivers.. but cool.. looks like I'll be gettin a Monster3d card hehe Micah > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > |Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software | > |http://www.gsoft.com.au | > |The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to| > |choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum | > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 21 19:29:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA22456 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 19:29:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rfd1.oit.umass.edu (mailhub.oit.umass.edu [128.119.175.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA22449 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 19:29:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gp@philos.umass.edu) Received: from tower.my.domain (nscs23p14.remote.umass.edu) by rfd1.oit.umass.edu (PMDF V5.1-10 #29083) with SMTP id <0EUX005SGLLGYC@rfd1.oit.umass.edu> for freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:29:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:32:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Greg Subject: Re: Quake2 and bad system call In-reply-to: <199806220130.LAA14918@cain.gsoft.com.au> X-Sender: gp@tower.my.domain To: "Daniel O'Connor" Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I've had Quake2 (That is QUake2-3.13 with 3.14a and 3.15a > > subsequently expanded on top) fail with "bad system call" on > > -current from early April and on -current from about 5/20. > > Just wondering if anyone has a fix for this. I've seen the same > > problem reported in the archives but didn't see a solution. On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > Hmm.. Do you have shared memory installed on your system? If having "options SYSVSHM" in my kernel accomplishes that, then the answer is yes. > I know Quake 2 uses shared mem when in X11 mode, and possibly uses it for GL > rendering.. > Just for more info: -I am just trying to get it working on X11, not GL-Quake. -I have tried specifying "+set vid_ref softx", but that didn't help. -I updated my -current again recently (Fri. 6/19), but that didn't help either. I didn't really think it would. -If it helps, while my xterm says "bad system call", the console says "/kernel: pid 7517 (quake2), uid 65535: exited on signal 12" Thanks. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 21 19:33:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA22923 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 19:33:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA22906 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 19:33:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@cain.gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA15728; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 12:02:54 +0930 (CST) Message-Id: <199806220232.MAA15728@cain.gsoft.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Greg cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Quake2 and bad system call In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:32:13 -0400." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 12:02:54 +0930 From: "Daniel O'Connor" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Hmm.. Do you have shared memory installed on your system? > If having "options SYSVSHM" in my kernel accomplishes that, then > the answer is yes. Hmm.. OK.. Pitty about that because I thought that would be it :) > -I am just trying to get it working on X11, not GL-Quake. > -I have tried specifying "+set vid_ref softx", but that didn't help. > -I updated my -current again recently (Fri. 6/19), but that didn't > help either. I didn't really think it would. > -If it helps, while my xterm says "bad system call", the console > says "/kernel: pid 7517 (quake2), uid 65535: exited on signal 12" OK... Do you have a sound card in your computer? If you don't, then Q2 won't work (!) The q2test works fine, but the full game doesn't.. --------------------------------------------------------------------- |Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software | |http://www.gsoft.com.au | |The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to| |choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 21 20:00:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA27577 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 20:00:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA27529 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 19:59:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA12027; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 19:59:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806220259.TAA12027@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Greg cc: "Daniel O'Connor" , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Quake2 and bad system call In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:32:13 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 19:59:27 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Here is a nice web page explaining how to get Quake and Quake 2 going on FreeBSD: http://www.schrade.com/sanctum/freebsd/ My original notes on how to get Quake2 going: ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/README.GLQUAKE The web site supercedes my notes. Have Fun, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 21 20:04:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA28476 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 20:04:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA28392 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 20:03:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@cain.gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA16188; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 12:33:46 +0930 (CST) Message-Id: <199806220303.MAA16188@cain.gsoft.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Greg cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Quake2 and bad system call In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:32:13 -0400." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 12:33:45 +0930 From: "Daniel O'Connor" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > -I am just trying to get it working on X11, not GL-Quake. > -I have tried specifying "+set vid_ref softx", but that didn't help. > -I updated my -current again recently (Fri. 6/19), but that didn't > help either. I didn't really think it would. > -If it helps, while my xterm says "bad system call", the console > says "/kernel: pid 7517 (quake2), uid 65535: exited on signal 12" Hmm.. another thing.. My Linux emulator was compiled from source checked out on the 28th of April 1998, so you might want to try that (ie just recompile the Linux LKM - tho that might break, I'm not sure) --------------------------------------------------------------------- |Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software | |http://www.gsoft.com.au | |The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to| |choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 21 21:16:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA08086 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 21:16:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA07965 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 21:16:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA12534; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 21:16:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806220416.VAA12534@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Greg cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, "Daniel O'Connor" Subject: Re: Quake2 and bad system call In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 22 Jun 1998 12:33:45 +0930." <199806220303.MAA16188@cain.gsoft.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 21:16:08 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greg, Can you run ktrace ./quake2 kdump -m 80 >quake.trace and towards the end of the file try to find the offending system call. Tnks, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 21 22:15:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA15187 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:15:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (castles314.castles.com [208.214.167.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA15127; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:15:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@antipodes.cdrom.com) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by antipodes.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA03380; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 21:10:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806220410.VAA03380@antipodes.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: sos@FreeBSD.ORG cc: rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper), nirva@ishiboo.com, hasty@netcom.com, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, hasty@rah.star-gate.com Subject: Re: X-10 Mouse Remote patch In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 19 Jun 1998 13:02:30 +0200." <199806191102.NAA00901@sos.freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 21:10:23 -0700 From: Mike Smith Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id WAA15165 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > You got me wrong here, moused should have no pipes/sockets/etc > interfaces, it shall have exactly what it needs and that is the > device/devices of the mouse hw. If you need a deamon for a new > device (and I see a X10-remote-anything as a new device) you > should write one, not try to bend an old one into shape... Just be careful where you take this one; it's a sliding scale of greys from everything standalone (which for the cascaded MouseRemote case would reek) through to Streams in user-space. It seems that Amancio has again abandoned his "solution" partway, so let me elaborate on a stacked pointer-interface model which I originally devised to deal with Randall's original suggestion. It owes a little to Streams and a lot to dlopen(). In the new model, moused serves as a framework for modules related to auxiliary input devices, specifically those whose operational domain may overlap that of the primary pointing device. This should primarily involve managing a single input source, which may have more than one layer of protocol embedded within it. A combination of manual and automatic configuration serves to build a stack of processing modules. Configuration would include active discovery (COM PnP, traditional mouse probes, perhaps delayed protocol-sensitive determination - the first two we have, the third might serve as an elaborate technique for avoiding manual configuration). Modules are, naturally, separate objects dynamically loaded and unloaded as required. Protocol data are passed into the top of the stack, where it ripples down, and is possibly passed out sideways either to a module-specific endpoint or to the standard 'pointer event stream' which is consolidated and passed to the console driver (etc.) as it is currently. This is a highly generalised design, and one which would facilitate the rapid production of new modules to handle auxiliary input devices. It is, of course, overkill in the current situation. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 21 22:22:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA16511 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:22:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (castles314.castles.com [208.214.167.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA16460; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:22:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@antipodes.cdrom.com) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by antipodes.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA02633; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 18:29:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806220129.SAA02633@antipodes.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Danny Dulai cc: Mike Smith , Randall Hopper , hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: X-10 Mouse Remote patch In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 21 Jun 1998 20:29:21 EDT." <19980621202921.57824@bleep.ishiboo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 18:29:23 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Right now, there is no way I can get the remote output that moused gives > to /var/run/MouseRemote, and still run other mice on moused, AND > having the remote's mouse functions disabled. > > The mouse remote's rf receiver gets far too much interference and causes > my mouse pointer to jump around and buttons to be pressed randomly. The > remote is uesless without turning off the mouse support. > > To solve this problem either add an option to moused to turn off mouse > messages (and rename moused to something better), or use the model I > suggested using remoted that splits mouse and remote events. > > Randall has expierenced the problems I'm getting, and I assume most > others that have this remote do too. This is not a feature that '[isnt] > worth the effort', its a mandatory feature for functionality. Drivers should, as a general rule, cater to hardware that is working correctly. If you have a decent general-purpose heuristic that helps with a given failure mode, that's one thing, but attempting to kluge around hardware that is failing in a completely random fashion is pointless. If you want the split, we can talk about the modular architecture I originally proposed, presuming of course that you're interested in discussing or implementing it. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 21 22:34:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA18735 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:34:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA18700; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:34:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA12759; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:34:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806220534.WAA12759@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Mike Smith cc: sos@FreeBSD.ORG, rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper), nirva@ishiboo.com, hasty@netcom.com, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: X-10 Mouse Remote patch In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 21 Jun 1998 21:10:23 PDT." <199806220410.VAA03380@antipodes.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:34:18 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > You got me wrong here, moused should have no pipes/sockets/etc > > interfaces, it shall have exactly what it needs and that is the > > device/devices of the mouse hw. If you need a deamon for a new > > device (and I see a X10-remote-anything as a new device) you > > should write one, not try to bend an old one into shape... > > Just be careful where you take this one; it's a sliding scale of greys > from everything standalone (which for the cascaded MouseRemote case > would reek) through to Streams in user-space. > > It seems that Amancio has again abandoned his "solution" partway, so Boy, Mike you belong on the Press 8) I am working on a daemon however I still think that fxtv should gets its mouse support from the X server and not necessarily from a moused thingy 8) Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 21 22:42:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA20054 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:42:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (castles314.castles.com [208.214.167.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA20030; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:42:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@antipodes.cdrom.com) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by antipodes.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA03573; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 21:37:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806220437.VAA03573@antipodes.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Amancio Hasty cc: Mike Smith , sos@FreeBSD.ORG, rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper), nirva@ishiboo.com, hasty@netcom.com, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: X-10 Mouse Remote patch In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:34:18 PDT." <199806220534.WAA12759@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 21:37:05 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I am working on a daemon however I still think that fxtv should gets > its mouse support from the X server and not necessarily from a > moused thingy 8) If there's a mechanism for passing abstract/custom (non-mouse, non-keyboard) events in to the server where they may be discarded or consumed at the whim of a requesting application, sure. Bear in mind that the MouseRemote pipe is for MouseRemote controls only, not "normal" mouse events. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 21 22:54:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA22016 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:54:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA21969; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:53:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA12845; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:53:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806220553.WAA12845@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Mike Smith cc: sos@FreeBSD.ORG, rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper), nirva@ishiboo.com, hasty@netcom.com, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: X-10 Mouse Remote patch In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 21 Jun 1998 21:10:23 PDT." <199806220410.VAA03380@antipodes.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:53:46 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Just be careful where you take this one; it's a sliding scale of greys >from everything standalone (which for the cascaded MouseRemote case >would reek) through to Streams in user-space. Actually, one of the models I am contemplating is user Space Streams 8) Again, as Michael has stated these types of architectures are an overkill for the case of the moused daemon however it can pave the way for what I hope exciting new daemon type services. This is a short code snippet from JACE's BufferStreamTest.java and with JACE's ASX we can exploit very easily prioritized messages. // Spawn off a new thread. public class BufferStreamTest { public static void main (String args[]) { // Control hierachically-related active objects Stream stream = new Stream (); Module pm = new Module ("Consumer", new Consumer (), null, null); Module cm = new Module ("Producer", new Producer (), null, null); // Create Producer and Consumer Modules and push them onto the // STREAM. All processing is performed in the STREAM. if (stream.push (pm) == -1) { ACE.ERROR ("push"); return; } else if (stream.push (cm) == -1) { ACE.ERROR ("push"); return; } } } To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Jun 21 22:57:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA22475 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:57:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA22363; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:56:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA12875; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:56:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806220556.WAA12875@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Mike Smith cc: sos@FreeBSD.ORG, rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper), nirva@ishiboo.com, hasty@netcom.com, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: X-10 Mouse Remote patch In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 21 Jun 1998 21:37:05 PDT." <199806220437.VAA03573@antipodes.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:56:45 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >If there's a mechanism for passing abstract/custom (non-mouse, The short answer is yes. >Bear in mind that the MouseRemote pipe is for MouseRemote controls only, >not "normal" mouse events I think that for fxtv we should try to convert the "X10 Mouse Remote " events to X events. Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 22 00:23:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA07728 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 00:23:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from eh.est.is (root@eh.est.is [194.144.208.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA07710 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 00:23:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thivars@est.is) Received: from gateway.toti.est.is (root@toti.est.is [194.144.208.200]) by eh.est.is (8.8.5/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA16646 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 07:23:30 GMT (envelope-from thivars@est.is) Received: from didda.toti.est.is ([192.168.255.21]) by gateway.toti.est.is (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA05151 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 07:24:50 GMT (envelope-from thivars@est.is) Message-ID: <358DF84F.87C87A1D@est.is> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 07:23:11 +0100 From: "Þórður Ívarsson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia Subject: raencoder coredumps, any ideas? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have been trying to get RealAudio encoder to work but no success, raencoder always coredump on live input. When I run 'raencoder -l line -o outfile -T 1:00' it coredumps just the way it does if I run 'raencoder -Z config.file -o outfile -l line', but leaving out the '-l line' the encoder runs ok. TIA Thordur Ivarsson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 22 01:10:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA15183 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 01:10:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from out1.ibm.net (out1.ibm.net [165.87.194.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA15121 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 01:10:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bibble@ibm.net) Received: from IAINWISE (slip202-135-85-58.pe.nz.ibm.net [202.135.85.58]) by out1.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA75422 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 08:10:07 GMT Message-ID: <001301bd9db5$dee14ab0$3a5587ca@IAINWISE.nz.ibm.com> From: "Iain Wiseman" To: Subject: PCTV NT Driver Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 20:08:11 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01BD9E19.7B11D860" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BD9E19.7B11D860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello I need an NT device capture driver for my card PCTV. I Have an MCI = driver which works fine but no video capture device driver. I have = access to the DDK from MS and wonder if someone could point me in the = right direction on how to write my own driver. I tried loading Haupauge and it fail on some kernel error Thanks Iain ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BD9E19.7B11D860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello I need an NT device capture = driver for my=20 card PCTV. I Have an MCI driver which works fine but no video capture = device=20 driver. I have access to the DDK from MS and wonder if someone could = point me in=20 the right direction on how to write my own driver.
 
I tried loading Haupauge and it fail on some kernel=20 error
 
Thanks Iain
 
------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BD9E19.7B11D860-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 22 01:11:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA15339 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 01:11:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au (rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au [129.78.129.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA15233; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 01:11:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dawes@rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au) Received: (from dawes@localhost) by rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.2) id SAA01298; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 18:11:00 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <19980622181059.02296@rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 18:10:59 +1000 From: David Dawes To: Mike Smith Cc: Amancio Hasty , sos@FreeBSD.ORG, Randall Hopper , nirva@ishiboo.com, hasty@netcom.com, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: X-10 Mouse Remote patch References: <199806220534.WAA12759@rah.star-gate.com> <199806220437.VAA03573@antipodes.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199806220437.VAA03573@antipodes.cdrom.com>; from Mike Smith on Sun, Jun 21, 1998 at 09:37:05PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jun 21, 1998 at 09:37:05PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: >> I am working on a daemon however I still think that fxtv should gets >> its mouse support from the X server and not necessarily from a >> moused thingy 8) > >If there's a mechanism for passing abstract/custom (non-mouse, >non-keyboard) events in to the server where they may be discarded or >consumed at the whim of a requesting application, sure. I have no idea what these events might be (I haven't been following this very closely), but if they are generated by an input device and don't really match the standard pointer or keyboard then maybe the XInput extension might be useful at the X server end? David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 22 01:28:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA18151 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 01:28:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA18129; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 01:28:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA13905; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 01:28:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806220828.BAA13905@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: David Dawes cc: Mike Smith , sos@FreeBSD.ORG, Randall Hopper , nirva@ishiboo.com, hasty@netcom.com, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: X-10 Mouse Remote patch In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 22 Jun 1998 18:10:59 +1000." <19980622181059.02296@rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 01:28:03 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think that we can map the X10 remote mouse events to anything that we want for the sake of general X event handling it would be nice if we can map the mouse events to X events however I am not so sure given that we have support for only one IR unit or rather a mouse with more than 15 buttons so lets just say many buttons 8) Randall has done the hard part which is decoding the mouse events from the X10 Remote Mouse since Randall wrote the decoding routine I am sure he can elaborate on the protocol. If you are interested in following the code it is available in -current's moused.c or if you like I can mail you moused.c Tnks! Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 22 02:03:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA25641 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 02:03:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au (rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au [129.78.129.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA25509; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 02:02:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dawes@rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au) Received: (from dawes@localhost) by rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.2) id TAA01457; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 19:02:34 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <19980622190234.19579@rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 19:02:34 +1000 From: David Dawes To: Amancio Hasty Cc: Mike Smith , sos@FreeBSD.ORG, Randall Hopper , nirva@ishiboo.com, hasty@netcom.com, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: X-10 Mouse Remote patch References: <19980622181059.02296@rf900.physics.usyd.edu.au> <199806220828.BAA13905@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199806220828.BAA13905@rah.star-gate.com>; from Amancio Hasty on Mon, Jun 22, 1998 at 01:28:03AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jun 22, 1998 at 01:28:03AM -0700, Amancio Hasty wrote: >I think that we can map the X10 remote mouse events to anything >that we want for the sake of general X event handling >it would be nice if we can map the mouse events to X events however >I am not so sure given that we have support for only one IR >unit or rather a mouse with more than 15 buttons so lets just >say many buttons 8) The X protocol imposes some limits on the core input devices (keyboard and pointer). The core pointer can have no more than five buttons, and only X and Y movement. The core keyboard can have up to 247 (or 248) keys. These are hard limits imposed by the client/server communcation protocol. The XInput extension extends considerably what sort of events an input device can generate, but of course for a client to use them it must be XInput-aware. >Randall has done the hard part which is decoding the mouse events >from the X10 Remote Mouse since Randall wrote the decoding routine >I am sure he can elaborate on the protocol. If you are interested >in following the code it is available in -current's moused.c or >if you like I can mail you moused.c To be honest, I don't have the time to be interested in the details at the moment. I was just suggesting that if you want to deal with this using X events it might be worth taking a look at the XInput extension to see if it will allow the sort of things you want (and I don't really know if it will or not). XFree86 3.3.2 does have some XInput device support currently for some tablets, a touch screen and a joystick. The XFree86 mouse code is currently maintained by Kazutaka Yokata (who was already on the CC list). If XInput looks like it might be useful and you want to follow it up, I can put you in touch with one of the people who maintains our XInput support. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 22 02:40:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA29837 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 02:40:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA29802 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 02:40:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA16876; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 02:40:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806220940.CAA16876@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Iain Wiseman" cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCTV NT Driver In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 22 Jun 1998 20:08:11 +1200." <001301bd9db5$dee14ab0$3a5587ca@IAINWISE.nz.ibm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 02:40:13 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sorry we can't help you this is a FreeBSD Forum (Unix). Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 22 03:21:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA05825 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 03:21:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (root@fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA05788 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 03:21:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from muir-10 (roger@muir-10.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.148.10]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA28047 Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:21:30 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <358E3029.15FB@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:21:29 +0100 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: University of Strathclyde X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG CC: Amancio Hasty Subject: Bt848 cards and FCC numbers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Should we be sending the FCC numbers of the Bt848 cards to Amancio? Most PC hardware has the FCC approval number on. >From the FCC web site, it is possible to search the FCC database on this number and find the Manufacturer and their Address. This may help with some of the no-name Bt848 cards and make it easier to suggest tuner defaults. Roger To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 22 03:59:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA09777 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 03:59:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (root@fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA09738 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 03:59:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from muir-10 (roger@muir-10.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.148.10]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA28564 Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:55:18 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <358E3816.1CFB@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:55:18 +0100 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: University of Strathclyde X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Amancio Hasty CC: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: bt848 identification for VideoLogic Captivator PCI (rev 2) References: <199806041806.LAA03168@rah.star-gate.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Amancio For the bt848 card identification effort, I've put the details of one of my Dual Crystal cards below. Although it is currently detected fine by the driver, this will help if a move is made to the new card signture method. Notes: The i2c bus reposnds to all i2c addresses with 0. (hence my function check_for_i2c_devices() in the bt848 driver) 1. Brand VideoLogic Captivator PCI Silk Screen says PV-BT848 (Rev 2F) Label says PV93B-A/W8729 No FCC number. Contains both 35.4 and 28.6 crystals Chip is Bt949AKPF 2. Tuner component part number NONE - Tunerless 3. output of fxtv-0.47 -debug startup > fxtv -debug startup Warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged Fxtv v0.47 DETECTED CAPTURE CARD(S) [DRIVER PROBES]: bktr0: rev 0x12 int a irq 18 on pci0.13.0 Intel Smart Video III/VideoLogic Captivator PCI, tuner. SYSCTL MIB VALUES: kern.version: FreeBSD 3.0-980311-SNAP #42: Thu May 21 17:46:41 BST 1998 roger@posh.dmem.strath.ac.uk:/usr/src/sys/compile/posh_smp hw.bt848.card: -1 hw.bt848.tuner: -1 hw.bt848.reverse_mute: -1 TUNER SIGNATURE (0x01 - 0xff): ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff TUNER I2C DEVICES FOUND AT: 0x00, 0x02, 0x04, 0x06, 0x08, 0x0a, 0x0c, 0x0e, 0x10, 0x12, 0x14, 0x16, 0x18, 0x1a, 0x1c, 0x1e, 0x20, 0x22, 0x24, 0x26, 0x28, 0x2a, 0x2c, 0x2e, 0x30, 0x32, 0x34, 0x36, 0x38, 0x3a, 0x3c, 0x3e, 0x40, 0x42, 0x44, 0x46, 0x48, 0x4a, 0x4c, 0x4e, 0x50, 0x52, 0x54, 0x56, 0x58, 0x5a, 0x5c, 0x5e, 0x60, 0x62, 0x64, 0x66, 0x68, 0x6a, 0x6c, 0x6e, 0x70, 0x72, 0x74, 0x76, 0x78, 0x7a, 0x7c, 0x7e, 0x80, 0x82, 0x84, 0x86, 0x88, 0x8a, 0x8c, 0x8e, 0x90, 0x92, 0x94, 0x96, 0x98, 0x9a, 0x9c, 0x9e, 0xa0, 0xa2, 0xa4, 0xa6, 0xa8, 0xaa, 0xac, 0xae, 0xb0, 0xb2, 0xb4, 0xb6, 0xb8, 0xba, 0xbc, 0xbe, 0xc0, 0xc2, 0xc4, 0xc6, 0xc8, 0xca, 0xcc, 0xce, 0xd0, 0xd2, 0xd4, 0xd6, 0xd8, 0xda, 0xdc, 0xde, 0xe0, 0xe2, 0xe4, 0xe6, 0xe8, 0xea, 0xec, 0xee, 0xf0, 0xf2, 0xf4, 0xf6, 0xf8, 0xfa, 0xfc, 0xfe ioctl(BT848_REEPROM) failed: Input/output error CAPTURE CARD EEPROM CONTENTS: Read 0 EEPROM bytes ioctl(BT848_SAUDIO, 128) failed: Input/output error Supported RGB Capture Pixel Formats: bpp Bpp RGB Masks Swap --- --- ---------------------------- ---- 15 2 00007c00, 000003e0, 0000001f NB 16 2 0000f800, 000007e0, 0000001f NB 24 3 00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff B 24 4 00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff NBWb Supported YUV Capture Pixel Formats: YUVSize HSamp VSamp Pack CompOrder T->B L->R YTrans ------- ----- ----- ------ --------- ---- ---- ------ 8,8,8 1,2,2 1,1,1 PLANAR YUV Y Y N 8,8,8 1,2,2 1,1,1 PACKED YUYV Y Y N 8,8,8 1,2,2 1,2,2 PLANAR YUV Y Y N XSERVER: 'Xi Graphics, Inc.' v4100, Protocol Verson 11.0 Screen Res = 1152x864, DefDepth = 24; NumScreens = 2 Bitmap Unit/BitOrder/Pad = 32/LSBFirst/32, Image ByteOrder = LSBFirst Rating Available Visuals: Rating Class bpp Bpp R,G,B Masks Swap DirectVid ------ ----------- --- --- ---------------------------- ---- --------- 4 TrueColor 24 4,4 00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff -- No 0 DirectColor 24 4,4 00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff -- No 4 TrueColor 24 4,4 00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff -- No Default Visual is 24-bpp TrueColor 4. output of sign.c signature contents, 0x01 thru 0xff: ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 b0 72 07 20 fc 51 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 i2c device found @ 0x00 0x02 0x04 0x06 0x08 0x0a 0x0c 0x0e 0x10 0x12 0x14 0x16 0x18 0x1a 0x1c 0x1e 0x20 0x22 0x24 0x26 0x28 0x2a 0x2c 0x2e 0x30 0x32 0x34 0x36 0x38 0x3a 0x3c 0x3e 0x40 0x42 0x44 0x46 0x48 0x4a 0x4c 0x4e 0x50 0x52 0x54 0x56 0x58 0x5a 0x5c 0x5e 0x60 0x62 0x64 0x66 0x68 0x6a 0x6c 0x6e 0x70 0x72 0x74 0x76 0x78 0x7a 0x7c 0x7e 0x80 0x82 0x84 0x86 0x88 0x8a 0x8c 0x8e 0x90 0x92 0x94 0x96 0x98 0x9a 0x9c 0x9e 0xa0 0xa2 0xa4 0xa6 0xa8 0xaa 0xac 0xae 0xb0 0xb2 0xb4 0xb6 0xb8 0xba 0xbc 0xbe 0xc0 0xc2 0xc4 0xc6 0xc8 0xca 0xcc 0xce 0xd0 0xd2 0xd4 0xd6 0xd8 0xda 0xdc 0xde 0xe0 0xe2 0xe4 0xe6 0xe8 0xea 0xec 0xee 0xf0 0xf2 0xf4 0xf6 0xf8 0xfa 0xfc 0xfe There we go. Bye Roger To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 22 04:14:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA13461 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 04:14:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (root@fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA13400 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 04:14:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from muir-10 (roger@muir-10.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.148.10]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA28861 Mon, 22 Jun 1998 12:14:37 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <358E3C9D.41C6@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 12:14:37 +0100 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: University of Strathclyde X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Amancio Hasty CC: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: bt848 signture for older revision Captivator PCI card References: <199806041806.LAA03168@rah.star-gate.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Amancio, Here is the card signature details for the older VideoLogic Captivator PCI card. This older revision returns ABSENT for all i2c addresses. 1. Brand Video Logic Captivator PCI Chip BT848KPF FCC ID HWC10I89 Has both 35 and 28 crystals 2. Tuner NONE 3. FXTV Warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged Fxtv v0.47 DETECTED CAPTURE CARD(S) [DRIVER PROBES]: bktr0: rev 0x11 int a irq 18 on pci0.13.0 Intel Smart Video III/VideoLogic Captivator PCI, tuner. SYSCTL MIB VALUES: kern.version: FreeBSD 3.0-980311-SNAP #42: Thu May 21 17:46:41 BST 1998 roger@posh.dmem.strath.ac.uk:/usr/src/sys/compile/posh_smp hw.bt848.card: -1 hw.bt848.tuner: -1 hw.bt848.reverse_mute: -1 TUNER SIGNATURE (0x01 - 0xff): 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 TUNER I2C DEVICES FOUND AT: ioctl(BT848_REEPROM) failed: Input/output error CAPTURE CARD EEPROM CONTENTS: Read 0 EEPROM bytes ioctl(BT848_SAUDIO, 128) failed: Input/output error Supported RGB Capture Pixel Formats: bpp Bpp RGB Masks Swap --- --- ---------------------------- ---- 15 2 00007c00, 000003e0, 0000001f NB 16 2 0000f800, 000007e0, 0000001f NB 24 3 00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff B 24 4 00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff NBWb Supported YUV Capture Pixel Formats: YUVSize HSamp VSamp Pack CompOrder T->B L->R YTrans ------- ----- ----- ------ --------- ---- ---- ------ 8,8,8 1,2,2 1,1,1 PLANAR YUV Y Y N 8,8,8 1,2,2 1,1,1 PACKED YUYV Y Y N 8,8,8 1,2,2 1,2,2 PLANAR YUV Y Y N XSERVER: 'Xi Graphics, Inc.' v4100, Protocol Verson 11.0 Screen Res = 1152x864, DefDepth = 24; NumScreens = 2 Bitmap Unit/BitOrder/Pad = 32/LSBFirst/32, Image ByteOrder = LSBFirst Rating Available Visuals: Rating Class bpp Bpp R,G,B Masks Swap DirectVid ------ ----------- --- --- ---------------------------- ---- --------- 4 TrueColor 24 4,4 00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff -- No 0 DirectColor 24 4,4 00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff -- No 4 TrueColor 24 4,4 00ff0000, 0000ff00, 000000ff -- No Default Visual is 24-bpp TrueColor 4. SIGN.Csignature contents, 0x01 thru 0xff: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 b0 72 07 20 fc 51 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 i2c device found @ (There are none) Cheers Roger To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 22 05:06:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA18951 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 05:06:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shonan.sfc.wide.ad.jp (shonan.sfc.wide.ad.jp [203.178.139.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA18895 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 05:05:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from slash@sfc.wide.ad.jp) Received: from enterprise.sfc.wide.ad.jp. (enterprise.sfc.wide.ad.jp [203.178.139.92]) by shonan.sfc.wide.ad.jp (8.9.0/3.6W05/29/98) with ESMTP id VAA22884 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 21:05:26 +0900 (JST) Received: from enterprise (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by enterprise.sfc.wide.ad.jp. (8.8.7+2.7Wbeta7/3.5Wpl7) with ESMTP id VAA16466 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 21:05:26 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199806221205.VAA16466@enterprise.sfc.wide.ad.jp.> To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: [Q] Multiple Bt848 cards in a PC. From: Tadashi Okoshi In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 22 Jun 1998 12:14:37 +0100" References: <358E3C9D.41C6@cs.strath.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.28.1 / Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 21:05:25 +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anyone have the PC with multiple(2,3, or 4...) Bt848 Cards? I am now planning the following PC. CPU: Pentium II 400MHz Mem: 128MB or .... Bt848: Wincast/TV x (?) I want to have Bt848(or 849) cards as many as possile. And I am planning the watching multiple TV channels at the same time. (Although I'm not sure that multiple processes can treat DGA mode at the same time...) If there is anyone, I wait for your advise. Tadashi Okoshi Keio University, JAPAN slash@okoshi.org or slash@ht.sfc.keio.ac.jp http://www.okoshi.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 22 05:14:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA19662 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 05:14:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.119.24.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA19656 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 05:14:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA12242; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 12:13:49 GMT Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id OAA05544; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:13:49 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19980622141348.37087@follo.net> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:13:48 +0200 From: Eivind Eklund To: Tadashi Okoshi , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] Multiple Bt848 cards in a PC. References: <358E3C9D.41C6@cs.strath.ac.uk> <199806221205.VAA16466@enterprise.sfc.wide.ad.jp.> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <199806221205.VAA16466@enterprise.sfc.wide.ad.jp.>; from Tadashi Okoshi on Mon, Jun 22, 1998 at 09:05:25PM +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jun 22, 1998 at 09:05:25PM +0900, Tadashi Okoshi wrote: > Does anyone have the PC with multiple(2,3, or 4...) Bt848 Cards? > > I am now planning the following PC. > > CPU: Pentium II 400MHz > Mem: 128MB or .... > Bt848: Wincast/TV x (?) > > I want to have Bt848(or 849) cards as many as possile. > And I am planning the watching multiple TV channels at the same time. I suspect that this won't work well due to too little bandwidth on the PCI bus, but I'm not certain. I'd be surprised if more than 2 cards work at the same time as your harddisk. Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 22 05:25:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA20911 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 05:25:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pobox1.oit.umass.edu (mailhub.oit.umass.edu [128.119.166.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA20905 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 05:25:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gpavelcak@philos.umass.edu) Received: from localhost (nscs23p9.remote.umass.edu) by pobox1.oit.umass.edu (PMDF V5.1-10 #29083) with SMTP id <0EUY003RPD66YY@pobox1.oit.umass.edu> for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 08:25:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 08:27:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Greg Subject: Re: Quake2 and bad system call In-reply-to: <199806220232.MAA15728@cain.gsoft.com.au> X-Sender: gp@localhost To: "Daniel O'Connor" Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hasty@rah.star-gate.com Reply-to: Greg Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've edited and combined the correspondence on this. On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, Daniel O'Connor wrote: [Snip] > OK... Do you have a sound card in your computer? If you don't, then Q2 won't > work (!) The q2test works fine, but the full game doesn't.. Yup, Soundblaster. dmesg and some audio ports (splay, timidity, auplay..) indicate it works. >Hmm.. another thing.. My Linux emulator was compiled from source checked out >on the 28th of April 1998, so you might want to try that (ie just recompile >the Linux LKM - tho that might break, I'm not sure) OK, thanks. I'm on my way to work now but could try that tonight. On Mon, 22 Jun 1998, Amancio Hasty wrote: > >Hi, > >Here is a nice web page explaining how to get Quake and Quake 2 going >on FreeBSD: >http://www.schrade.com/sanctum/freebsd/ > >My original notes on how to get Quake2 going: > >ftp://rah.star-gate.com/pub/README.GLQUAKE > >The web site supercedes my notes. > > Have Fun, > Amancio Same as above. Will have to wait. >Can you run ktrace ./quake2 >kdump -m 80 >quake.trace > >and towards the end of the file try to find the offending system call. > > Tnks, > Amancio kdump produces a 2.5 MB file, so I'm hoping this is all you need. I guess the last two lines of the file are the ones. Here's 10 (out of 50,000) for context. 7999 quake2 RET read 8192/0x2000 7999 quake2 CALL read(0xa,0x285f6000,0x2000) 7999 quake2 GIO fd 10 read 8192 bytes "\^[\^_\M^M\M^_\^[\M-u\^[-\^\//\^[\^B\^\//\^[-\M-v\^\/\M-u\\.\^]/\M-u\\\ //\^\]-\^]/\M^^\^[\^[].\M^M\^A\^]\M^^/\^]\^]\^^/\M^L\^A\^^\M^M.\\\^A\ \^]\M^_\^\.\M^M\M^_\M^M\M-v]\^A\^A\M^M]]]\^B/\M^^/\M-u\^[\M^L\M-v\^]" 7999 quake2 RET read 8192/0x2000 7999 quake2 CALL close(0xa) 7999 quake2 RET close 0 7999 quake2 CALL #91(0x285f6000,0x2000) 7999 quake2 RET #91 0 7999 quake2 CALL setdomainname 7999 quake2 PSIG SIGSYS SIG_DFL Thanks again, both of you. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 22 05:52:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA24575 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 05:52:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from animaniacs.itribe.net (gatekeeper.itribe.net [209.49.144.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA24503 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 05:52:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jamie@itribe.net) Received: from localhost (jamie@localhost) by animaniacs.itribe.net (950413.SGI.8.6.12/950213.SGI.AUTOCF) via SMTP id IAA19050; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 08:51:55 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 08:51:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Jamie Bowden Reply-To: Jamie Bowden To: drifter@stratos.net cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SB16 doesn't work with either Voxware or PnP... In-Reply-To: <19980620214122.A752@stratos.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 20 Jun 1998 drifter@stratos.net wrote: > ARRRGGHHH! All that time carefully crafting my letter and > I got the wrong audio device. In fact, I did mean /dev/audio2, and > that, unfortunately, did *not* work. > In fact, my hands are very tired from constantly testing > all audio devices with combinations like: > > # rm /dev/audio > # ln -s /dev/audio1 /dev/audio > # cat audio.au > /dev/audio > > # rm /dev/audio > # ln -s /dev/audio2 /dev/audio > # cat audio.au > /dev/audio > > ...ad naseum! > :( > > Unfortunately, this is not turning out to be a typical > device/link problem... I have an SB16 that I use with FreeBSD daily. All Making it work required was editing sound_config.h (as the LINT kernel directs you to do), building the kernel with the appropriate controller and device directives, and doing a MAKEDEV in /dev once the new kernel was in place. Jamie Bowden Systems Administrator, iTRiBE.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 22 06:10:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA26911 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 06:10:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (root@fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA26901 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 06:10:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from muir-10 (roger@muir-10.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.148.10]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA00544 Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:10:14 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <358E57B6.15FB@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:10:14 +0100 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: University of Strathclyde X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tadashi Okoshi CC: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] Multiple Bt848 cards in a PC. References: <358E3C9D.41C6@cs.strath.ac.uk> <199806221205.VAA16466@enterprise.sfc.wide.ad.jp.> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tadashi, > > Does anyone have the PC with multiple(2,3, or 4...) Bt848 Cards? Yes. I have 3 Bt848 cards in my machine. 1 Hauppauge WinTV card 2 Videologic Captivator PCI cards. > And I am planning the watching multiple TV channels at the same time. Make sure you get three identical cards as the bt848 driver assumes all Bt848 cards have the same make of tuner. I only use cameras so the tuner type did not matter to me. > (Although I'm not sure that multiple processes can treat DGA mode > at the same time...) The new version of FXTV supports multiple Bt848 cards and they can both do DGA at the same time from what I can remember. use the fxtv -deviceNumber 0 and fxtv -deviceNumber 1 settings. Roger -- Roger Hardiman, | Department of Computer Science, PhD Research Student, | University of Strathclyde, roger@cs.strath.ac.uk | Glasgow, Scotland, UK http://www.cs.strath.ac.uk/~roger To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 22 06:20:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA27837 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 06:20:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rfd1.oit.umass.edu (mailhub.oit.umass.edu [128.119.175.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA27830 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 06:20:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gp@philos.umass.edu) Received: from localhost (nscs44p20.remote.umass.edu) by rfd1.oit.umass.edu (PMDF V5.1-10 #29083) with SMTP id <0EUY00DKRFPPPH@rfd1.oit.umass.edu> for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:20:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:22:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Greg Subject: Re: Quake2 and bad system call In-reply-to: <199806220416.VAA12534@rah.star-gate.com> X-Sender: gp@localhost To: Amancio Hasty Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, "Daniel O'Connor" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I did take a quick look at the web page suggested by Amancio. Looks like my problem is that I had COMPAT_LINUX in my kernel. It seems to be working now. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 22 06:37:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA01570 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 06:37:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from PeeCee.tbe.com (firewallx.tbe.com [192.88.94.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA01555 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 06:37:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@PeeCee.tbe.com) Received: from PeeCee.tbe.com (localhost.tbe.com [127.0.0.1]) by PeeCee.tbe.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA15019 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 08:37:06 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dkelly@PeeCee.tbe.com) Message-Id: <199806221337.IAA15019@PeeCee.tbe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] Multiple Bt848 cards in a PC. In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 22 Jun 1998 21:05:25 +0900." <199806221205.VAA16466@enterprise.sfc.wide.ad.jp.> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 08:37:05 -0500 From: David Kelly Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tadashi Okoshi writes: > Does anyone have the PC with multiple(2,3, or 4...) Bt848 Cards? Along that same line of thought, how about multiple sound cards? Looking at /usr/src/sys/i386/isa/sound/pcm86.c doesn't suggest the driver is structured for more than one card per system. Additionally this appears to drive a nail in the multi-card coffin for pcm: /* PC-9801-86 specific constants */ #define PCM86_IOBASE 0xa460 /* PCM I/O ports */ Possibly there are other cards which might support more than one per system? /dev/MAKEDEV is structured correctly for multiple sound cards. The idea being tossed around at work is to link sites with up to 8 conference sessions using vat but rather than place up to 40 vat systems (one per user) at a site we'd like just one system per site with all 8 sessions statically started, connected to an analog switch matrix allowing the users to select their desired conference as needed. If i can't get multiple sound channels out of one box, then I'll need up to 8 boxes. The other head scratcher: can left and right channels of a sound card (input and output) be treated independently? See where I'm going? One vat conference on the left channel, another on the right, cut the sound card count in half. Another alternative would involve a number of really small diskless, no monitor, no keyboard, "embedded" FreeBSD boxes, one per user. Needs sound card and ethernet. Customized vat. Probably read the user's "channel" switch thru a parallel printer port. I like this solution best but there is a space problem and an analog audio distribution network already exists. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nebula.tbe.com ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 22 07:14:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA05523 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 07:14:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shonan.sfc.wide.ad.jp (shonan.sfc.wide.ad.jp [203.178.139.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA05427 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 07:13:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from slash@sfc.wide.ad.jp) Received: from enterprise.sfc.wide.ad.jp. (enterprise.sfc.wide.ad.jp [203.178.139.92]) by shonan.sfc.wide.ad.jp (8.9.0/3.6W05/29/98) with ESMTP id XAA29206; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 23:13:08 +0900 (JST) Received: from enterprise (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by enterprise.sfc.wide.ad.jp. (8.8.7+2.7Wbeta7/3.5Wpl7) with ESMTP id XAA17703; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 23:13:08 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199806221413.XAA17703@enterprise.sfc.wide.ad.jp.> To: roger@cs.strath.ac.uk Cc: slash@ht.sfc.keio.ac.jp, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] Multiple Bt848 cards in a PC. From: Tadashi Okoshi In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 22 Jun 1998 14:10:14 +0100" References: <358E57B6.15FB@cs.strath.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.28.1 / Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 23:13:08 +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear roger, Thank you for your comment. And I have a question. roger> Make sure you get three identical cards as the bt848 driver roger> assumes all Bt848 cards have the same make of tuner. roger> I only use cameras so the tuner type did not matter to me. Why? When there are 3 (bt848 + Tuner) Cards, aren't there 3 bktr devices and there tuner(? sorry I'm not sure exactly) devices? And we can tune there 3 tuners individually, can't we? Tadashi Okoshi Keio University, JAPAN slash@okoshi.org or slash@ht.sfc.keio.ac.jp http://www.okoshi.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 22 07:48:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA11976 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 07:48:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (castles244.castles.com [208.214.165.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA11827; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 07:47:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@antipodes.cdrom.com) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by antipodes.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA04195; Sun, 21 Jun 1998 23:09:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806220609.XAA04195@antipodes.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Amancio Hasty cc: Mike Smith , sos@FreeBSD.ORG, rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper), nirva@ishiboo.com, hasty@netcom.com, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: X-10 Mouse Remote patch In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:56:45 PDT." <199806220556.WAA12875@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 23:09:52 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >If there's a mechanism for passing abstract/custom (non-mouse, > The short answer is yes. > > > >Bear in mind that the MouseRemote pipe is for MouseRemote controls only, > >not "normal" mouse events > > I think that for fxtv we should try to convert the "X10 Mouse Remote " events > to X events. Sure, presuming that there is a way to get these events into the X server, and out again into the application. First blush suggests that this is nontrivial, and requires changing the X server. Ick. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 22 08:50:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA21350 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 08:50:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.119.24.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA21319 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 08:50:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA21901; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 15:50:34 GMT Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id RAA06184; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 17:50:33 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19980622175033.06733@follo.net> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 17:50:33 +0200 From: Eivind Eklund To: Tadashi Okoshi , roger@cs.strath.ac.uk Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] Multiple Bt848 cards in a PC. References: <358E57B6.15FB@cs.strath.ac.uk> <199806221413.XAA17703@enterprise.sfc.wide.ad.jp.> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <199806221413.XAA17703@enterprise.sfc.wide.ad.jp.>; from Tadashi Okoshi on Mon, Jun 22, 1998 at 11:13:08PM +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jun 22, 1998 at 11:13:08PM +0900, Tadashi Okoshi wrote: > Dear roger, > > Thank you for your comment. > And I have a question. > > roger> Make sure you get three identical cards as the bt848 driver > roger> assumes all Bt848 cards have the same make of tuner. > roger> I only use cameras so the tuner type did not matter to me. > > Why? > When there are 3 (bt848 + Tuner) Cards, aren't there 3 bktr devices > and there tuner(? sorry I'm not sure exactly) devices? > And we can tune there 3 tuners individually, can't we? Not with OVERRIDE_TUNER or the sysctl's. It works if your card is correctly auto-detected. Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 22 09:51:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03063 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:51:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercator.math.uwaterloo.ca (acheng@mercator.math.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.140.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02630 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:49:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from acheng@mercator.math.uwaterloo.ca) Received: from localhost (acheng@localhost) by mercator.math.uwaterloo.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA20893 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 12:49:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 12:48:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Ada To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Any cd ripper for IDE/ATAPI drives Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I am looking for a program to read audio CD for IDE/ATAPI drives. I have come across tosha, but it only works with SCSI drives. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks Ada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 22 10:12:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA06406 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:12:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06339 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:11:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA18973; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:11:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806221711.KAA18973@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Tadashi Okoshi cc: roger@cs.strath.ac.uk, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] Multiple Bt848 cards in a PC. In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 22 Jun 1998 23:13:08 +0900." <199806221413.XAA17703@enterprise.sfc.wide.ad.jp.> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 10:11:01 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Currently, there is a small deficiency in the bt848 driver when it fails to recognized the tuner properly however if the driver recognizes the tuners then there is no problem with the driver talking to 3 different tuners. Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Jun 22 17:57:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA06477 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 17:57:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA06463 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 1998 17:57:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@cain.gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA23802; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:25:41 +0930 (CST) Message-Id: <199806230055.KAA23802@cain.gsoft.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Greg cc: Amancio Hasty , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Quake2 and bad system call In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 22 Jun 1998 09:22:34 -0400." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:25:40 +0930 From: "Daniel O'Connor" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I did take a quick look at the web page suggested by Amancio. Looks > like my problem is that I had COMPAT_LINUX in my kernel. It seems > to be working now. Ahh... hmmm.. anyone have a reason why COMPAT_LINUX still exists? :) --------------------------------------------------------------------- |Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software | |http://www.gsoft.com.au | |The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to| |choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 23 00:31:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA10028 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 00:31:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.144.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA10013 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 00:31:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.8.5/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA14414; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 00:30:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 00:30:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: drifter@stratos.net cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SB16 doesn't work with either Voxware or PnP... In-Reply-To: <199806202304.TAA00269@stratos.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 20 Jun 1998 drifter@stratos.net wrote: > | IRQ 05 | > | Direct Memory Access 01 | > | Direct Memory Access 03 | > | I/O Range 0220-022F | > | I/O Range 0330-0331 | > | I/O Range 0388-038B | Reference noted. > Listed devices in Multimedia: > > Device Driver IRQ DRQ Port Flags > ------ ------ --- --- ---- ----- > SB PCM sb0 5 1 0x220 > SB 16 sbxvi0 - - - > SB Midi sbmidi0 - 3 0x330 > OPL-2/3 opl0 - - 0x388 The MIDI port shouldn't have a DRQ, and the SB16 should. This is what my old voxware setup looked like in my kernel: device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 vector sbintr device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5 device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330 device opl0 at isa? port 0x388 All you need to do is substitute drq 3 for dr5 on the sbxvi line to get it running properly. > # playmidi midi.mid > open /dev/sequencer: Device not configured > ( I tried relinking /dev/sequencer to /dev/sequencer{1,2,3}, > since the pcm's were being assigned numbers higher than 0, > but none of them worked.) I noted this to Luigi at USENIX so hopefully we can get this thing fixed before 3.0. There's a comparison in MAKEDEV that applies only for the VoxWare case but not for the pcm driver. > I've been at this for a while, and I have run out of ideas. Just > to reemphasize, this is not a SoundBlaster Wannabe or near-Compatable. > This is the Real Deal, but doesn't seem to want to play ball. My config was for an original AWE32, which was a SB16+ASP with the EMU6000 hanging off the back. The original was before PnP. Doug White | University of Oregon Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 23 04:21:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA23418 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 04:21:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rfd1.oit.umass.edu (mailhub.oit.umass.edu [128.119.175.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA23404 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 04:21:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gpavelcak@philos.umass.edu) Received: from localhost (nscs25p2.remote.umass.edu) by rfd1.oit.umass.edu (PMDF V5.1-10 #29083) with SMTP id <0EV000DFG4V6HG@rfd1.oit.umass.edu> for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 07:21:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 07:23:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Greg Subject: Quake2 and bad system call-- misleading post. X-Sender: gp@localhost To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-to: Greg Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't know how I lost track of my attempts to solve my "bad system call" problem with Quake2, but my previous post suggested that all I needed to do was unpack the Quake sources and remove COMPAT_LINUX from my kernel. That is not true. I also needed to apply linux.diffs.tar.gz from http://www.schrade.com/sanctum/freebsd. One hunk did not apply cleanly to my -current sources from Fri. 6/19, but I tried running Quake2 anyway, and it seems to be working. Just wanted to clear that up. As usual, the FreeBSD lists were very helpful. Special thanks to Amancio Hasty and Daniel O'Connor for their help. Now, if I only had adequate hardware to run this game. Hmmm. Makes me think about buying some stuff. Take care all. Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 23 04:41:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA26552 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 04:41:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA26541 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 04:41:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 7:40:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10350; Tue, 23 Jun 98 07:40:46 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA23375; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 07:40:12 -0400 Message-Id: <19980623074012.A23353@ct.picker.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 07:40:12 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: David Kelly , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] Multiple Bt848 cards in a PC. Mail-Followup-To: David Kelly , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199806221205.VAA16466@enterprise.sfc.wide.ad.jp.> <199806221337.IAA15019@PeeCee.tbe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199806221337.IAA15019@PeeCee.tbe.com>; from David Kelly on Mon, Jun 22, 1998 at 08:37:05AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David Kelly: |If i can't get multiple sound channels out of one box, then I'll need up |to 8 boxes. You could use multiple sound cards per system. Some cards support this. Fxtv will let you specify which dsp and mixer device to control. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 23 06:49:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA15114 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 06:49:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from PeeCee.tbe.com (firewallx.tbe.com [192.88.94.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA15107 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 06:49:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@PeeCee.tbe.com) Received: from PeeCee.tbe.com (localhost.tbe.com [127.0.0.1]) by PeeCee.tbe.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA17475 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 08:49:03 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dkelly@PeeCee.tbe.com) Message-Id: <199806231349.IAA17475@PeeCee.tbe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] Multiple Bt848 cards in a PC. In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 23 Jun 1998 07:40:12 EDT." <19980623074012.A23353@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 08:49:02 -0500 From: David Kelly Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Randall Hopper writes: > David Kelly: > |If i can't get multiple sound channels out of one box, then I'll need up > |to 8 boxes. > > You could use multiple sound cards per system. Some cards support this. > Fxtv will let you specify which dsp and mixer device to control. Ok, which cards? Its important that not only is each card selectable, but all cards have to be able to be usable at the same time. There has been some discussion that Sound Blaster sometimes can barely do full duplex under the right conditions. So its not hard to believe two Sound Blasters in one machine won't perform. Only sound (voice) in/out is required, no synthesis. One might guess a new PCI sound card would work. But it appears at least some are emulating ISA on PCI, eliminating the advantages of PCI. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nebula.tbe.com ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 23 10:33:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26820 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:33:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26805 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:33:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22648; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:32:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806231732.KAA22648@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Daniel O'Connor" cc: Greg , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Quake2 and bad system call In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:25:40 +0930." <199806230055.KAA23802@cain.gsoft.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:32:42 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, COMPAT_LINUX is used to include the linux emulation layer in the kernel. In this scenario what the users need to know is that after updating or modifying the linux layer they need to rebuild the kernel, install install it and reboot. Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 23 11:21:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA05096 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:21:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from www.giovannelli.it (www.giovannelli.it [194.184.65.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05067 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:21:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gmarco@scotty.masternet.it) Received: from scotty.masternet.it (modem00.masternet.it [194.184.65.254]) by www.giovannelli.it (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA01182 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 20:17:06 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <358FF20C.B87907C@scotty.masternet.it> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 20:21:00 +0200 From: Gianmarco Giovannelli Reply-To: gmarco@giovannelli.it X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: The audio is arrived... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Changing the board to a Miro PCTV suddenly solve the audio problem... Recognized at the first hit, no problem since now... Finally I can stop to see only b/w film of the twenties (which haven't the audio at all :-) If Amancio needs info of this board too (PCTV) I can send them to him ... Thanks again to everyone... -- Regards... Gianmarco "Unix expert since yesterday" http://www.giovannelli.it To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 23 11:47:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10654 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:47:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from postoffice.sarnoff.com (postoffice.sarnoff.com [130.33.10.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10629 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 11:47:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from amarks@sarnoff.com) Received: from sarnoff.com ([130.33.14.232]) by postoffice.sarnoff.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id AAA13C9 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 14:46:59 -0400 Message-ID: <358FF81C.D2829AFA@sarnoff.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 14:46:52 -0400 From: "AARON MARKS" Reply-To: amarks@sarnoff.com Organization: Sarnoff Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: BT848 Video Capture Boards Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm looking to purchase a video capture board for use in a FreeBSD box. This board will be used to grap real-time images from a video player for storage on a file system (for subsequent image manipulation). I've done some searching and found the following boards: STB TVPCI MiroMEDIA PCTV Hauppauge WinTV Does anyone know if any/all of these boards will work under FreeBSD 3.0? Thanks, -A. -- Aaron J. Marks Communications and Computing Systems Lab Assoc. Member Tech Staff Advanced Networks and Computation Group amarks@sarnoff.com Sarnoff Corporation To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 23 16:13:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA00398 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 16:13:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.119.24.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA00315 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 16:13:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA17181; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 23:12:54 GMT Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id BAA19607; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 01:12:54 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19980624011254.54981@follo.net> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 01:12:54 +0200 From: Eivind Eklund To: amarks@sarnoff.com, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BT848 Video Capture Boards References: <358FF81C.D2829AFA@sarnoff.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <358FF81C.D2829AFA@sarnoff.com>; from AARON MARKS on Tue, Jun 23, 1998 at 02:46:52PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jun 23, 1998 at 02:46:52PM -0400, AARON MARKS wrote: > I'm looking to purchase a video capture board for use in a FreeBSD box. > This board will be used to grap real-time images from a video player for > storage on a file system (for subsequent image manipulation). > > I've done some searching and found the following boards: > > STB TVPCI > MiroMEDIA PCTV > Hauppauge WinTV > > Does anyone know if any/all of these boards will work under FreeBSD 3.0? All of these are supposed to work; you can certainly get all them to work with a little twiddling. I have a MiroMEDIA PCTV which works out of the box. However, there is not support for the "Pro" part yet (NICAM + radio). I've been probing to get this area working, but there is nothing solid yet (and I won't set a deadline for when I'll be finished - too much to do on other fronts). Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 23 18:17:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA20118 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 18:17:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA20103 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 18:17:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@cain.gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA20340; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:47:24 +0930 (CST) Message-Id: <199806240117.KAA20340@cain.gsoft.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Greg cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Quake2 and bad system call-- misleading post. In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 23 Jun 1998 07:23:38 -0400." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:47:23 +0930 From: "Daniel O'Connor" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Now, if I only had adequate hardware to run this game. > Hmmm. Makes me think about buying some stuff. 3Dfx cards make Quake 2 look very nice =) --------------------------------------------------------------------- |Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software | |http://www.gsoft.com.au | |The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to| |choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Jun 23 18:24:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA21170 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 18:24:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA21128 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 1998 18:23:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@cain.gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA20682; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:52:46 +0930 (CST) Message-Id: <199806240122.KAA20682@cain.gsoft.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Amancio Hasty cc: Greg , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Quake2 and bad system call In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 23 Jun 1998 10:32:42 MST." <199806231732.KAA22648@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:52:46 +0930 From: "Daniel O'Connor" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > COMPAT_LINUX is used to include the linux emulation layer in the kernel. Heh.. oops.. You can tell I wasn't thinking when I asked that ;) --------------------------------------------------------------------- |Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software | |http://www.gsoft.com.au | |The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to| |choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jun 24 03:31:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA27444 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 03:31:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bandicoot.prth.tensor.pgs.com (bandicoot.prth.tensor.pgs.com [157.147.224.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA27281; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 03:30:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shocking@swan.prth.tensor.pgs.com) Received: from quokka.prth.tensor.pgs.com (quokka [157.147.224.10]) by bandicoot.prth.tensor.pgs.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA28872; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 18:29:49 +0800 (WST) Received: from swan.tensor.pgs.com (swan [157.147.227.20]) by quokka.prth.tensor.pgs.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA26371; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 18:29:16 +0800 (WST) Received: from swan by swan.tensor.pgs.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA04542; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 18:29:01 +0800 Message-Id: <199806241029.SAA04542@swan.tensor.pgs.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: New Glide drivers for Linux released, inc VooDoo Rush & /dev/3dfx Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 18:29:01 +0800 From: Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The latest Glide stuff for Linux has support for Voodoo Rush and an X server for the Rush as well. Sources to the X server are available. Also the new glide stuff supports /dev/3dfx, and has sources for the Linux kernel driver. Anyone wanting to do the port? Check out the following URL - http://glide.xxedgexx.com/3DfxRPMS.html Stephen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jun 24 04:32:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA10641 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 04:32:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA10493; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 04:31:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA14619; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 13:30:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) Message-Id: <199806241130.NAA14619@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: New Glide drivers for Linux released, inc VooDoo Rush & /dev/3dfx In-Reply-To: <199806241029.SAA04542@swan.tensor.pgs.com> from Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth at "Jun 24, 98 06:29:01 pm" To: shocking@prth.pgs.com (Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 13:30:30 +0200 (CEST) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG From: Søren Schmidt Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In reply to Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth who wrote: > > The latest Glide stuff for Linux has support for Voodoo Rush and an X server > for the Rush as well. Sources to the X server are available. Also the new > glide stuff supports /dev/3dfx, and has sources for the Linux kernel driver. > Anyone wanting to do the port? Check out the following URL - > > http://glide.xxedgexx.com/3DfxRPMS.html Hmm, are you sure one doesn't need the SDK to compile/link the Xserver?? I think we still need the Glide libs to do this... If everything is there - get me a 3dfx card :) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end? .. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jun 24 05:06:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA17506 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 05:06:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from al.imforei.apana.org.au (pjchilds@al.imforei.apana.org.au [202.12.89.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA17426 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 05:06:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pjchilds@al.imforei.apana.org.au) Received: (from pjchilds@localhost) by al.imforei.apana.org.au (beBop) id VAA21882; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 21:35:24 +0930 (CST) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 21:35:24 +0930 (CST) From: Peter Childs Message-Id: <199806241205.VAA21882@al.imforei.apana.org.au> To: dkelly@nebula.tbe.com, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] Multiple Bt848 cards in a PC. In-Reply-To: <6modfv$pe$1@al.imforei.apana.org.au> User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-971224 (UNIX) (FreeBSD/2.2.6-STABLE (i386)) Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article <6modfv$pe$1@al.imforei.apana.org.au> you wrote: > Ok, which cards? Its important that not only is each card selectable, > but all cards have to be able to be usable at the same time. There has > been some discussion that Sound Blaster sometimes can barely do full > duplex under the right conditions. So its not hard to believe two Sound > Blasters in one machine won't perform. > Only sound (voice) in/out is required, no synthesis. > One might guess a new PCI sound card would work. But it appears at least > some are emulating ISA on PCI, eliminating the advantages of PCI. Hmm... given the application you are looking (basically providing some sort of analog-voice circuit to digital bridge perhaps you could look at some of the brooktrout type cards that can take 4/8 pstn/analog voice circuits etc... these babies are used for voicemail systems and the like and are designed to do the grunty stuff.. We have a old 486dx33 running OS/2 1.2 (no gui) with 4 of these cards giving 16 voice circuits access to voicemail .. it does all the PCM stuff and the 300mb drive can store hours and hours of messages... peter -- Peter Childs - finger pjchilds@al.imforei.apana.org.au for PGP public key We are FreeBSD, resistance is related to current and voltage... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jun 24 08:21:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA21274 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 08:21:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shadow.worldbank.org (shadow.worldbank.org [138.220.104.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA21238 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 08:20:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adhir@worldbank.org) Received: from localhost (adhir@localhost) by shadow.worldbank.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA19701 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:20:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from adhir@worldbank.org) X-Authentication-Warning: shadow.worldbank.org: adhir owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 11:20:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "Alok K. Dhir" To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: sound syncronization Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey all - on an SMP current box as of 6/15/98 running Luigi's pcm sound driver, game sounds seem to be about 15 seconds behind the screen updates. This happens on xgal and on doom. The sound card is a CS4236 I believe - built in to my motherboard. Any help? Thanks... -------------------------------------------------------------------- \||/_ Alok K. Dhir Phone: +1.202.473.2446 oo \ S13-061, ISGMC Email: adhir@worldbank.org L_ The World Bank Group Washington, DC \/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------| "Unix _is_ user friendly - it just chooses friends selectively..." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jun 24 13:32:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA21982 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 13:32:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA21900 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 13:32:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id UAA04022; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 20:52:09 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199806241852.UAA04022@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/mbone/vic/patches patch-al patch-am patch-an To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 20:52:09 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, re: the recently committed vic patch, Amancio suggested to use two different fd's to talk to the grabber and the tuner (the patch committed uses a single fd, and a locally patched brooktree driver). Good suggestion, so I will try to come up with a fix in the next few days, if someone does not beat me (the fix is trivial, just need to do a second open on the tuner device; the only annoying part is mapping /dev/bktr%d into /dev/tuner%d ). In the meantime, can people try out the x11 grabber and tell me how it works and if they have suggestions on how to improve it (or even better implement things :) One of the nice app of the x11 grabber i did last month was the following: +==========================+ H H H Netscape H +==========================+ H H H web document H H H H H H H H tvtvtv H H tvtvtv H H tvtvtv H H H +==========================+ and have the grabber transmit both the window "web document" and the small "tv" window showing live video (80x60 or so). I guess i'll have to make the grabber to work with magicpoint as well... cheers luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jun 24 13:59:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA27371 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 13:59:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA27289 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 13:59:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:58:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08142; Wed, 24 Jun 98 16:58:26 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA02188; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:57:47 -0400 Message-Id: <19980624165746.A2157@ct.picker.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:57:46 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: David Kelly , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] Multiple Bt848 cards in a PC. Mail-Followup-To: David Kelly , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19980623074012.A23353@ct.picker.com> <199806231349.IAA17475@PeeCee.tbe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199806231349.IAA17475@PeeCee.tbe.com>; from David Kelly on Tue, Jun 23, 1998 at 08:49:02AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David Kelly: |Randall Hopper writes: |> David Kelly: |> |If i can't get multiple sound channels out of one box, then I'll need up |> |to 8 boxes. |> |> You could use multiple sound cards per system. Some cards support this. |> Fxtv will let you specify which dsp and mixer device to control. | |Ok, which cards? Its important that not only is each card selectable, |but all cards have to be able to be usable at the same time. There has |been some discussion that Sound Blaster sometimes can barely do full |duplex under the right conditions. So its not hard to believe two Sound |Blasters in one machine won't perform. Can't speak to which ones. Joao Carlos Mendes Luis is one of the folks (or "the" folk) that asked for soundcard selectability, so you might buzz him. Really, you don't even need a soundcard unless you want to digitize the incoming audio, or you want to use a soundcard mixer control to adjust the volume. The TV cards (mine at least) kick out std line impedance audio so you can plug that into your stereo directly if desired or an external audio mixer/multiplexer. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jun 24 14:03:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA28044 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:03:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whqvax.picker.com (whqvax.picker.com [144.54.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA27939 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 14:02:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com by whqvax.picker.com with SMTP; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 17:01:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08220; Wed, 24 Jun 98 17:01:51 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA02203; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 17:01:19 -0400 Message-Id: <19980624170119.B2157@ct.picker.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 17:01:19 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: amarks@sarnoff.com, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BT848 Video Capture Boards Mail-Followup-To: amarks@sarnoff.com, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG References: <358FF81C.D2829AFA@sarnoff.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <358FF81C.D2829AFA@sarnoff.com>; from AARON MARKS on Tue, Jun 23, 1998 at 02:46:52PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org AARON MARKS: |STB TVPCI |MiroMEDIA PCTV |Hauppauge WinTV All should. I see Eivind spoke up for the Miro. The STB and Hauppauge are also well supported as they were the second and third cards that the driver supported (after the Intel SVR3). Based on past posts to this list, the Hauppauge is the better quality board of the two. That's what I have (Hauppauge Wincast TV/dbx) and works fine on FBSD3.0. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jun 24 15:59:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21462 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 15:59:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vivien.franken.de (alex@vivien.franken.de [194.94.249.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21357 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 15:58:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@vivien.franken.de) Received: (from alex@localhost) by vivien.franken.de (8.8.8/8.8.5) id AAA17773; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 00:57:05 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19980625005705.S11201@vivien.franken.de> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 00:57:05 +0200 From: Alex Goller To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: MiroMedia PCTV and remote control module Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, i've purchased a second hand MiroMedia PCTV card, which runs smoothly with 2.2.6-STABLE. With the card i also got MiroMedia remote, which is a remote control module that connects to a serial port and seems to be similar to what i know of the X10 remote control unit (except that the X10 module seems to be based on radio, not on infrared as miroMedia remote is ). Anyone knows/uses this product or got further details on it ? bye, alex -- Alexander 'decay' Goller e-mail - alex@vivien.franken.de pgp - 2048/09314EBD pgp - 98 A8 0A DD 4B 8E 92 52 05 D0 CA 8E D7 87 B3 B3 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Jun 24 23:35:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA03987 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 23:35:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jaws.Abrizio.COM (jaws.abrizio.com [208.128.200.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA03966 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 23:34:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sclin@Abrizio.COM) Received: from localhost (sclin@localhost) by jaws.Abrizio.COM (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA28329 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 23:36:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 23:36:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "Steven C. Lin" X-Sender: sclin@jaws Reply-To: "Steven C. Lin" To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Audio with fxtv Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org After installing fxtv v. 0.47 and the latest bktr driver on my FreeBSD 2.2.6 system, I get good video but absolutely no audio. I'm using Forefront Technology's OSS audio system with an Audio PCI card and haven't had any other sound related problems. The TV card is the one that Gateway OEMs -- Windows lists it as an STB card with no information about the tuner. I have to manually override the card & tuner settings, using "STB" for the card and "PHILLIPS-NTSC" for the tuner. (BTW, when I don't override the settings, bktr0 erroneously detects my card as an Intel card and can't determine the tuner). I've tried all the card and tuner settings, anyway, with no luck on the audio. There is no line out jack on this TV card -- it's connected inside the box to the on-motherboard AudioPCI. Also made sure all my mixer settings were set high (including 'video' and 'line1'...) Does anyone have any suggestions?? I'm more than willing to experiment but I just don't know that much about device drivers... Thanks a lot!! Steve Lin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jun 25 02:08:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA26792 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 02:08:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from titanium.yy.ics.keio.ac.jp (titanium.yy.ics.keio.ac.jp [131.113.47.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA26601 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 02:07:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nozomu@yy.cs.keio.ac.jp) Received: from localhost (platinum.yy.ics.keio.ac.jp [131.113.47.72]) by titanium.yy.ics.keio.ac.jp (8.8.8+3.0Wbeta13/3.6W) with ESMTP id SAA17452 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 18:07:06 +0900 (JST) To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: How should I get "opt_bktr.h" ? X-Mailer: Mew version 1.92.4 on Emacs 19.28 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19980625180720C.nozomu@yy.cs.keio.ac.jp> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 18:07:20 +0900 From: Nozomu Matsui X-Dispatcher: imput version 971024 Lines: 14 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I'm Nozomu Matsui, Master Student of KEIO University. Now, I'm trying to update bt848 driver(to bt848.980519.tgz). But this archieve files doesn't include "opt_bktr.h" files required by brooktrr848.c. I've searching this file, but I can't get yet. I hope you to teach the place, please. - Please forgive me for my rude english. Nozomu MATSUI To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jun 25 03:34:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA08431 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 03:34:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (root@fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA08426 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 03:34:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from brewster-02 (roger@brewster-02.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.172.2]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA01991 Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:34:12 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <359227A3.E26@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:34:11 +0100 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: University of Strathclyde X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nozomu Matsui CC: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How should I get "opt_bktr.h" ? References: <19980625180720C.nozomu@yy.cs.keio.ac.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nozomu, To generate opt_bktr.h you need to add the following line to /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/options.i386 BROOKTREE_SYSTEM_DEFAULT opt_bktr.h Roger To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jun 25 04:55:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA21664 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 04:55:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.119.24.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA21658 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 04:55:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA22847; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 11:55:47 GMT Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id NAA00250; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:55:46 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19980625135546.08167@follo.net> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:55:46 +0200 From: Eivind Eklund To: Nozomu Matsui , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How should I get "opt_bktr.h" ? References: <19980625180720C.nozomu@yy.cs.keio.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <19980625180720C.nozomu@yy.cs.keio.ac.jp>; from Nozomu Matsui on Thu, Jun 25, 1998 at 06:07:20PM +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Jun 25, 1998 at 06:07:20PM +0900, Nozomu Matsui wrote: > > Hello, I'm Nozomu Matsui, Master Student of KEIO University. > > Now, I'm trying to update bt848 driver(to bt848.980519.tgz). But this > archieve files doesn't include "opt_bktr.h" files required by > brooktrr848.c. > > I've searching this file, but I can't get yet. > I hope you to teach the place, please. It is automatically generated by config(8) in sys/compile// Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jun 25 07:43:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA18292 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:43:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from PeeCee.tbe.com (firewallx.tbe.com [192.88.94.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA18253 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 07:43:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@PeeCee.tbe.com) Received: from PeeCee.tbe.com (localhost.tbe.com [127.0.0.1]) by PeeCee.tbe.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA22885; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:42:31 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dkelly@PeeCee.tbe.com) Message-Id: <199806251442.JAA22885@PeeCee.tbe.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Randall Hopper cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] Multiple Bt848 cards in a PC. In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 24 Jun 1998 16:57:46 EDT." <19980624165746.A2157@ct.picker.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:42:30 -0500 From: David Kelly Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Randall Hopper writes: > Can't speak to which ones. Joao Carlos Mendes Luis > is one of the folks (or "the" folk) that asked for soundcard selectability, > so you might buzz him. > > Really, you don't even need a soundcard unless you want to digitize the > incoming audio, or you want to use a soundcard mixer control to adjust the > volume. The TV cards (mine at least) kick out std line impedance audio so > you can plug that into your stereo directly if desired or an external audio > mixer/multiplexer. For this application we are looking for up to 8 channels of in/out, all running at once. The Brooktrout reference somebody provided appears to be our best option to date. At the moment someone else is digging up the particulars as to how much the Brooktrout solution costs. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nebula.tbe.com ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jun 25 09:03:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01973 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:03:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from roma.coe.ufrj.br (jonny@roma.coe.ufrj.br [146.164.53.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01968 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 09:03:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonny@jonny.eng.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by roma.coe.ufrj.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA15730; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:01:30 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199806251601.NAA15730@roma.coe.ufrj.br> Subject: Re: [Q] Multiple Bt848 cards in a PC. In-Reply-To: <199806251451.JAA22960@PeeCee.tbe.com> from David Kelly at "Jun 25, 98 09:51:32 am" To: dkelly@nebula.tbe.com (David Kelly) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:01:30 -0300 (EST) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org #define quoting(David Kelly) // Randall Hopper writes: // [...] // > Can't speak to which ones. Joao Carlos Mendes Luis // > is one of the folks (or "the" folk) that asked for soundcard selectability, // > so you might buzz him. // // I was asking about multiple sound cards in one FreeBSD box on the // freebsd-multimedia list when your name came up. // // Do you know which soundcards work more than one at once in a FreeBSD // system? Or in any PC system? First and most important, you MUST use Luigi's driver, pcm, and avoid voxware. Using his driver, I think that any combination supported by the hardware is possible. In particular, I have a GUS PnP and a SB16 in my home machine: ... Probing for PnP devices: CSN 1 Vendor ID: GRV0001 [0x0100561e] Serial 0xffffffff mss_attach 1 at 0x348 irq 5 dma 3:7 flags 0x17 pcm1 (GusPnP sn 0xffffffff) at 0x348 irq 5 drq 3 flags 0x17 id 16 Probing for devices on the ISA bus: ... sio1: type 16550A pcm0 at 0x220 irq 7 drq 1 flags 0x15 on isa aha0 at 0x334-0x337 irq 11 drq 6 on isa ... My biggest problem was to find a good combination of DRQs and IRQs. To finally achieve a result, I had to overlap IRQ7 between SB16 and lpt0. In FreeBSD, lpt0 is registered without interrupts. In DOS/Winblows, I must not play a sound on the SB16 while printing. :) // -- // David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nebula.tbe.com // ======================================================================== // Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. Jonny -- Joao Carlos Mendes Luis M.Sc. Student jonny@jonny.eng.br Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jun 25 13:02:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA16616 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:02:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lorax.ubergeeks.com (lorax.ubergeeks.com [206.205.41.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA16561 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 13:01:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adrian@lorax.ubergeeks.com) Received: from localhost (adrian@localhost) by lorax.ubergeeks.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA00407 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:01:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from adrian@lorax.ubergeeks.com) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:01:35 -0400 (EDT) From: ADRIAN Filipi-Martin Reply-To: Adrian Filipi-Martin To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: anyone still using GUS MAX's? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks, I have had a couple of GUS MAX's for ages. I don't often use them so I can't say when support for them broke, but the 2.2.6 voxware drivers seem to be pretty broken. I can throw the boards in a windoze PC and make them work, but under 2.2.6 I get no sound and some syslog messages. Here's the snippet from the syslog: > gus0 at 0x220 irq 12 drq 6 flags 0x3 on isa > gus0: > isa_dmastart: channel 6 not acquired > isa_dmastart: channel 6 not acquired > isa_dmastart: channel 6 not acquired > isa_dmastart: channel 6 not acquired The isa_dmastart messages occur everytime I try to cat an .au file to /dev/audio. I looked into the sound dirver source and it looks like the above message was meant to be included in a "#ifdef DIAGNOSTICS" section. In fact the driver doesn't appear to acquire the DMA chanel at all. The only acquired ISA DMA channel on my system is the floppy, drq 2. Has anyone gont a MAX working under 2.2.6? Adrian -- [ adrian@ubergeeks.com -- Ubergeeks Consulting -- http://www.ubergeeks.com/ ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jun 25 14:49:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA03669 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 14:49:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cabri.obs-besancon.fr (cabri.obs-besancon.fr [193.52.184.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA03470 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 14:48:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmz@cabri.obs-besancon.fr) Received: by cabri.obs-besancon.fr (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA04631; Thu, 25 Jun 98 23:52:01 +0200 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 98 23:52:01 +0200 Message-Id: <9806252152.AA04631@cabri.obs-besancon.fr> From: Jean-Marc Zucconi To: adrian@ubergeeks.com Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: (message from ADRIAN Filipi-Martin on Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:01:35 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: anyone still using GUS MAX's? X-Mailer: Emacs Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>>> ADRIAN Filipi-Martin writes: > Hi folks, > I have had a couple of GUS MAX's for ages. I don't often use them > so I can't say when support for them broke, but the 2.2.6 voxware drivers > seem to be pretty broken. > I can throw the boards in a windoze PC and make them work, but > under 2.2.6 I get no sound and some syslog messages. Here's the snippet > from the syslog: >> gus0 at 0x220 irq 12 drq 6 flags 0x3 on isa >> gus0: >> isa_dmastart: channel 6 not acquired >> isa_dmastart: channel 6 not acquired >> isa_dmastart: channel 6 not acquired >> isa_dmastart: channel 6 not acquired > The isa_dmastart messages occur everytime I try to cat an .au file > to /dev/audio. I looked into the sound dirver source and it looks like > the above message was meant to be included in a "#ifdef DIAGNOSTICS" > section. In fact the driver doesn't appear to acquire the DMA chanel at > all. The only acquired ISA DMA channel on my system is the floppy, drq > 2. Possibly a wrong combination of drq and flags (should not the dma channel be 0, 1, or 3?) > Has anyone gont a MAX working under 2.2.6? Mine works under -current: gus0 at 0x220 irq 11 drq 6 on isa snd0: snd0: You may also need "option NOGUSPNP" in your config file. Jean-Marc _____________________________________________________________________________ Jean-Marc Zucconi Observatoire de Besancon F 25010 Besancon cedex PGP Key: finger jmz@cabri.obs-besancon.fr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jun 25 15:15:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA08847 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:15:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lorax.ubergeeks.com (lorax.ubergeeks.com [206.205.41.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08745 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:15:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adrian@lorax.ubergeeks.com) Received: from localhost (adrian@localhost) by lorax.ubergeeks.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA01046; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 18:14:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from adrian@lorax.ubergeeks.com) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 18:14:51 -0400 (EDT) From: ADRIAN Filipi-Martin Reply-To: Adrian Filipi-Martin To: Jean-Marc Zucconi cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: anyone still using GUS MAX's? In-Reply-To: <9806252152.AA04631@cabri.obs-besancon.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Jean-Marc Zucconi wrote: > >>>>> ADRIAN Filipi-Martin writes: > > >> gus0 at 0x220 irq 12 drq 6 flags 0x3 on isa > >> gus0: > >> isa_dmastart: channel 6 not acquired > > Possibly a wrong combination of drq and flags (should not the dma > channel be 0, 1, or 3?) > > > Has anyone gont a MAX working under 2.2.6? > > Mine works under -current: > gus0 at 0x220 irq 11 drq 6 on isa > snd0: snd0: > > You may also need "option NOGUSPNP" in your config file. I'll try this tonight. I am a little concearned that my cards probe as UltraSound's instead of MAX's. Could you send me your kernel config entry? thanks, Adrian -- [ adrian@ubergeeks.com -- Ubergeeks Consulting -- http://www.ubergeeks.com/ ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Jun 25 15:35:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA12380 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:35:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cabri.obs-besancon.fr (cabri.obs-besancon.fr [193.52.184.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA12203 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 1998 15:34:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmz@cabri.obs-besancon.fr) Received: by cabri.obs-besancon.fr (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA04855; Fri, 26 Jun 98 00:38:23 +0200 Date: Fri, 26 Jun 98 00:38:23 +0200 Message-Id: <9806252238.AA04855@cabri.obs-besancon.fr> From: Jean-Marc Zucconi To: adrian@ubergeeks.com Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: (message from ADRIAN Filipi-Martin on Thu, 25 Jun 1998 18:14:51 -0400 (EDT)) Subject: Re: anyone still using GUS MAX's? X-Mailer: Emacs Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>>> ADRIAN Filipi-Martin writes: > I am a little concearned that my cards probe as UltraSound's > instead of MAX's. Could you send me your kernel config entry? options NOGUSPNP controller snd0 device gus0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 11 drq 6 vector gusintr Jean-Marc _____________________________________________________________________________ Jean-Marc Zucconi Observatoire de Besancon F 25010 Besancon cedex PGP Key: finger jmz@cabri.obs-besancon.fr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 26 03:02:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA12718 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:02:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (root@fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA12643 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 03:01:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from brewster-02 (roger@brewster-02.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.172.2]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA15306 Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:01:41 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <35937185.27CF@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:01:41 +0100 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: University of Strathclyde X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Amancio Hasty CC: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Improvements to the bt848 driver - SW Pan and Zoom. References: <199806260910.CAA00703@rah.star-gate.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all. I've been thinking about an improvement to the bt848 driver. The same could be made to the meteor driver too. I'd like to grab from a sub-section of the video image. This allows the software pan and zoom functions you can get with a fixed camera with a wide angle lense. Currently, the bt848 driver captures the full NTSC (or PAL) image and scales it down to the desired image size, say 192x128 pixels. +----------+ |aaaaaaaaaa| |aaaaaaaaaa| to +---+ FULL NTSC to 192x128 |aaaaaaaaaa| |aaa| |bbbbbbbbbb| |bbb| |bbbbbbbbbb| +---+ |bbbbbbbbbb| +----------+ I would like to grab a sub-portion of the NTSC (or PAL) window and optionally scale that. So, I could grab a real 192x128 chunk from say the bottom left corner of the video image. +----------+ |aaaaaaaaaa| |b+--+ bbbb| to +---+ SMALL WINDOW FROM NTSC to 192x128 |c|cc| cccc| |ccc| |d+--+ dddd| +---+ |eeeeeeeeee| +----------+ Now all these things can be performed by grabbing a full image and then copying the parts you need. However, the hardware still has to cope with moving a full video image around. For the bt848 this needs some new IOCTLS and changes to the dma_progs. Any comments on this? Roger Hardiman Strathclyde Uni Telepresence Group this would To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 26 07:33:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA15234 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 07:33:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lorax.ubergeeks.com (lorax.ubergeeks.com [206.205.41.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA15080 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 07:32:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adrian@lorax.ubergeeks.com) Received: from localhost (adrian@localhost) by lorax.ubergeeks.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA01036; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:31:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from adrian@lorax.ubergeeks.com) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:31:58 -0400 (EDT) From: ADRIAN Filipi-Martin Reply-To: Adrian Filipi-Martin To: Jean-Marc Zucconi cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: anyone still using GUS MAX's? In-Reply-To: <9806252238.AA04855@cabri.obs-besancon.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, Jean-Marc Zucconi wrote: > >>>>> ADRIAN Filipi-Martin writes: > > > I am a little concearned that my cards probe as UltraSound's > > instead of MAX's. Could you send me your kernel config entry? > > options NOGUSPNP > controller snd0 > device gus0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 11 drq 6 vector gusintr Still no go. Has anyone been using the MAX under 2.2.6 instead of -current? I think I may just throw in a SB16 for the next few months. The GUS support under 2.2.6 looks like it has problems. In any case, as I read the code, the isa_dmastart message is going to happen 100% of the time whether things are working or not. isa_dmaacquire is never called. thanks, Adrian -- [ adrian@ubergeeks.com -- Ubergeeks Consulting -- http://www.ubergeeks.com/ ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 26 08:13:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA22502 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:13:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from m2.findmail.com (m2.findmail.com [209.185.96.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA22461 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:13:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brianfeldman@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 6133 invoked by uid 505); 26 Jun 1998 15:13:03 -0000 Date: 26 Jun 1998 15:13:03 -0000 Message-ID: <19980626151303.6130.qmail@m2.findmail.com> Received: from 166.55.78.58 (via http) from to list "freebsd-multimedia" From: "Brian Feldman" Subject: Re: Quake2 and bad system call In-Reply-To: <199806231732.KAA22648@rah.star-gate.com> To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Actually, remember, the mremap() syscall? This is the one tripping up Quake 2; someone posted a fix, and since then I've spent the time hand-patching it into my source tree after any linux emu change; don't you think it would be nice to put this into the tree permanently? -Brian > Hi, > > COMPAT_LINUX is used to include the linux emulation layer in the kernel. > > In this scenario what the users need to know is that after updating or > modifying the linux layer they need to rebuild the kernel, install > install it and reboot. > > Cheers, > Amancio > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message > > ----- Original Message: http://www.findmail.com/list/freebsd-multimedia/?start=5679 Start a FREE e-mail list at http://www.FindMail.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 26 08:33:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA25442 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:33:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from feldman.dyn.ml.org (green@usr45-dialup58.mix2.Boston.mci.net [166.55.78.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA25306; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:32:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from green@feldman.dyn.ml.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by feldman.dyn.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA07007; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:32:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from green@feldman.dyn.ml.org) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:32:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Feldman X-Sender: green@localhost To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG cc: freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: full Linux mremap patches (commit these!) 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bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id RAA05989; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 17:33:42 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19980626173342.48255@follo.net> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 17:33:42 +0200 From: Eivind Eklund To: Roger Hardiman , Amancio Hasty Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Improvements to the bt848 driver - SW Pan and Zoom. References: <199806260910.CAA00703@rah.star-gate.com> <35937185.27CF@cs.strath.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89.1i In-Reply-To: <35937185.27CF@cs.strath.ac.uk>; from Roger Hardiman on Fri, Jun 26, 1998 at 11:01:41AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jun 26, 1998 at 11:01:41AM +0100, Roger Hardiman wrote: > Hi all. > > I've been thinking about an improvement to the bt848 driver. > The same could be made to the meteor driver too. > > I'd like to grab from a sub-section of the video image. [...] > Now all these things can be performed by grabbing a full image and > then copying the parts you need. However, the hardware still > has to cope with moving a full video image around. > > For the bt848 this needs some new IOCTLS and changes to the > dma_progs. > > Any comments on this? I think it sounds like a good capability to use, if it can be done without totally re-structuring the driver (or you're offering to both do the work and coordinate with everybody else that work on the driver :-) Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 26 10:15:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA13693 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:15:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (castles214.castles.com [208.214.165.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA13340; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:14:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@antipodes.cdrom.com) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by antipodes.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07933; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:13:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199806261713.KAA07933@antipodes.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Brian Feldman cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: full Linux mremap patches (commit these!) In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:32:01 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:13:50 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > These work great, and should be committed (whoever made the original > patch, step forward, good job). These aren't a "full" mremap implementation by any stretch of the imagination, but they probably should be committed as a bandaid. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 26 10:37:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19843 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:37:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from feldman.dyn.ml.org (green@usr47-dialup58.mix2.Boston.mci.net [166.55.78.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19695; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:37:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from green@feldman.dyn.ml.org) Received: from localhost (green@localhost) by feldman.dyn.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA00405; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 13:36:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from green@feldman.dyn.ml.org) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 13:36:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Feldman X-Sender: green@localhost To: Mike Smith cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: full Linux mremap patches (commit these!) In-Reply-To: <199806261713.KAA07933@antipodes.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Okay, I don't really understand FreeBSD's underlying structure as much as I'd like yet, and namely I'm working on figuring out syscalls (and ioctl ;) now; I don't proclaim to know whether these patches will completely implement mremap or not, but at least it seems to provide the ability to run one more Linux app correctly, so barring any huge problems with these patches, I think that we should try them out (after all, deltas can always be backed out". my->name = "Brian Feldman"; my->email = "brianfeldman@hotmail.com"; my->info = finger("green@feldman.dyn.ml.org"); On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, Mike Smith wrote: > > These work great, and should be committed (whoever made the original > > patch, step forward, good job). > > These aren't a "full" mremap implementation by any stretch of the > imagination, but they probably should be committed as a bandaid. > > -- > \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith > \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au > \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org > \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 26 11:26:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02546 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:26:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bone.nectar.com (bone.nectar.com [204.27.67.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02491 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:26:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nectar@bone.nectar.com) Received: from bone.nectar.com (localhost.communique.net [127.0.0.1]) by bone.nectar.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAA02220 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 13:26:01 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199806261826.NAA02220@bone.nectar.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 X-PGP-RSAfprint: 00 F9 E6 A2 C5 4D 0A 76 26 8B 8B 57 73 D0 DE EE X-PGP-RSAkey: http://www.nectar.com/nectar-pgp262.txt From: Jacques Vidrine Subject: when is a bt848 not a bt848? To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 13:26:00 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi, I just put a brand-new Hauppauge WinTV Model 401 into my FreeBSD box. It has a TV tuner, dbx, and FM. Unfortunately, it is not detected by bktr_probe(). Oddly enough, the reported device ID does not match the 848 or 849: found-> vendor=0x109e, dev=0x036e, revid=0x02 class=04-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 intpin=a, irq=3 map[0]: type 3, range 32, base fedfe000, size 12 found-> vendor=0x109e, dev=0x0878, revid=0x02 class=04-80-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 intpin=a, irq=3 map[0]: type 3, range 32, base fedfd000, size 12 I'm not sure how to proceed here ... does anyone know what those device IDs represent? Jacques Vidrine -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNZPnuDeRhT8JRySpAQFE/gQAutvHC2Rg4/eCFxmBUzUn7J4IyWJda2dQ ah9RVBdAB1kUn6XCg5gbZLnV1E5A+F5EdZ6XjR44GWSA15gEN0VeJa/+7HK3MV/N uw1XOBd2CAVc63Yb3qf0JjBeoWNSRNtX3JNT40LlJGsnAH1nbx8CiFAIotfMrbui 3SYU3XWJHX4= =81Ra -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 26 12:25:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA12089 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:25:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12069 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:25:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03421; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:17:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806261917.MAA03421@rah.star-gate.com> To: Eivind Eklund cc: Roger Hardiman , Amancio Hasty , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hasty@rah.star-gate.com Subject: Re: Improvements to the bt848 driver - SW Pan and Zoom. In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 26 Jun 1998 17:33:42 +0200." <19980626173342.48255@follo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <3418.898888642.1@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:17:23 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This functionaly should not be difficult to add to the driver and to be honest it is surprising that it is not there . I will think over this feature over the weekend and hopefully Roger will beat this old programmer to it 8) Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 26 13:41:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26469 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 13:41:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26376 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 13:41:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03769; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 13:40:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806262040.NAA03769@rah.star-gate.com> To: "Brian Feldman" cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hasty@rah.star-gate.com Subject: Re: Quake2 and bad system call In-reply-to: Your message of "26 Jun 1998 15:13:03 -0000." <19980626151303.6130.qmail@m2.findmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <3766.898893647.1@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 13:40:47 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just forward the patch to Soren. He sort of drops out of the mailing lists . Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 26 13:51:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA28347 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 13:51:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from stratos.net (pm3-3-44.stratos.net [207.86.132.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA28194 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 13:50:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drifter@stratos.net) From: drifter@stratos.net Received: (from drifter@localhost) by stratos.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) id QAA00528 for freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 16:51:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 16:51:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199806262051.QAA00528@stratos.net> To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: More SB16 woes Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doug, I took your advice about using DRQ 5 for sbxvi0, and at first it worked adequately. Most MIDI and WAV files played properly, though RealAudio in 16bit mode was never even close. Unfortunately my success was short lived. As it turned out, some random MIDI files, when played through the MIDI to WAV converter `timidity', knocked my SB16 out of commission. The result is loud white noise coming through my speakers. Furthermore, from that point on, when I played anything else through /dev/dsp, I still got white noise. No messages from the sound driver (Voxware) appeared on the root console, either. I tried a simple reboot, but that didn't work. Completely shutting down my computer and restarting also didn't work. I still got the white noise. Then, I tried booting under Windows95 and running a few test MIDI and WAV files. That seemed to work, as a warm boot to FreeBSD made the sound work again. I began playing some MIDI files again through `timidity', but after a while, the same problem happened again. I went through the same Win95 reboot, sound check, and warm boot to FreeBSD, and got it working again. Then, another MIDI file knocked the SB16 card out again. This time, though, the previously mentioned methods did not work. Furthermore, despite having the "proper" DRQ 5 setting, I once again got those DMA/IRQ timeouts. Then, I re-compiled the kernel, reconfiguring it so that I don't have to manually boot into -c config to set "drq sbxvi0 5," and things seemed to work again. Then, once again, a midi file started giving me white noise. Any way, strangely, randomly trying different timidity files, the sound card all of a sudden would correct itself and play fine. On several occasions, I would play a tune and get white noise, and I just kept playing and eventually it corrected itself. But then it went bad again, and I think I can't get it to work this time. To make a long story short, it appears that the Voxware sound driver with SB is unreliable, making any serious attempt to incorporate sound on my desktop mute. I doubt its a hardware problem, since this is my second SB16, and am not likely to believe lightning strikes twice. In fact, I'm beginning to suspect there was nothing wrong with the first SB card. I know Luigi isn't a big fan of SB16, and I'm sure there is a good reason for it. But it is not "physically damaged" in such a way that it can't be made to work, and I cannot responsibly just keep buying expensive hardware every time someone declares it brain-damaged, validly or not. So its either this SB16 or bust. I don't know if there's anything anybody can do about this conundrum of mine. Any help would be appreciated, but if not, at least I offer this as informational testimony to not buying a SB :) -Rob PS: I realize my postings are a bit long, but I just want to give as much detail as I can... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 26 14:01:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA00665 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 14:01:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA00487; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 14:00:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id VAA06254; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 21:28:40 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199806261928.VAA06254@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: mgp patches To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 21:28:39 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: itojun@itojun.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org (maybe people in -current is interested... i have Bcc-ed to multimedia as well) i have spent a few hours on mgp, found a few bugs, and implemented a new feature which I find extremely useful. In a separate mail will post some suggestions for possible extensions: BUGS: * the check for ".ps" in ispsfilename() looked for the last 4 char instead of 3 (fixed) * running a process on the last page results in the process being killed immediately. I have no idea on how to fix this. * %tab N will likely result in a coredump if N >= MAXTAB (32) (easy fix in grammar.y, did not bother though) NEW FEATURE * I have extended the "tab" attribute to define styles with names instead of numbers, e.g. %tab style_name center, ... The style can be invoked by starting the line with &style_name instead of a set of tabs. This is implemented by extending the tab_control[] array with MAXSTYLE fields dedicated to the new styles (max 100 currently, but it is a compile-time option that can be made larger if necessary). This is not as flexible as a global macro definition but I don't know better... Diffs attached. Itojun, do you think we can update the port or apply the change directly to the distribution ? cheers luigi diff -ubwr ../mgp-1.03a/draw.c ./draw.c --- ../mgp-1.03a/draw.c Mon Mar 23 13:09:52 1998 +++ ./draw.c Fri Jun 26 20:41:34 1998 @@ -110,7 +110,7 @@ p++; if (4 < p - p0 && strcasecmp(p - 4, ".eps") == 0) return 1; - if (3 < p - p0 && strcasecmp(p - 4, ".ps") == 0) + if (3 < p - p0 && strcasecmp(p - 3, ".ps") == 0) return 1; return 0; } diff -ubwr ../mgp-1.03a/globals.c ./globals.c --- ../mgp-1.03a/globals.c Fri Feb 13 07:47:58 1998 +++ ./globals.c Fri Jun 26 13:42:34 1998 @@ -43,7 +43,7 @@ u_char *page_data[MAXPAGE][MAXLINE]; struct ctrl *page_control[MAXPAGE][MAXLINE]; struct ctrl *default_control[MAXLINE]; -struct ctrl *tab_control[MAXTAB]; +struct ctrl *tab_control[MAXTAB+MAXSTYLE]; struct ctrl *init_control[MAXLINE]; u_int mgp_flag; diff -ubwr ../mgp-1.03a/grammar.y ./grammar.y --- ../mgp-1.03a/grammar.y Tue Mar 24 18:07:03 1998 +++ ./grammar.y Fri Jun 26 14:18:33 1998 @@ -572,6 +572,7 @@ { $$ = gen_icon($2, $3, $4); } ; tabcmd: KW_TAB NUM { $$ = gen_int(CTL_TAB, $2); } + | KW_TAB ID { $$ = gen_str(CTL_TAB, $2); } ; defaultcmd: KW_DEFAULT NUM { $$ = gen_int(CTL_DEFAULT, $2); } diff -ubwr ../mgp-1.03a/mgp.h ./mgp.h --- ../mgp-1.03a/mgp.h Mon Mar 23 13:29:10 1998 +++ ./mgp.h Fri Jun 26 13:42:14 1998 @@ -109,6 +109,7 @@ #define MAXDIREC 16 #define MAXARG 32 #define MAXTAB 32 +#define MAXSTYLE 100 #define SP_NONE 0 #define SP_SHRINK 1 @@ -385,7 +386,7 @@ #endif extern struct ctrl *page_control[MAXPAGE][MAXLINE]; extern struct ctrl *default_control[MAXLINE]; -extern struct ctrl *tab_control[MAXTAB]; +extern struct ctrl *tab_control[MAXTAB+MAXSTYLE]; extern struct ctrl *init_control[MAXLINE]; extern u_int mgp_flag; Only in .: mgp.o Only in .: mgp2ps diff -ubwr ../mgp-1.03a/parse.c ./parse.c --- ../mgp-1.03a/parse.c Mon Mar 23 12:23:16 1998 +++ ./parse.c Fri Jun 26 14:21:28 1998 @@ -98,7 +98,7 @@ page_control[page][line] = NULL; } } - for (line = 0; line < MAXTAB; line++) { + for (line = 0; line < MAXTAB + MAXSTYLE; line++) { if (!tab_control[line]) continue; ctlfree(tab_control[line]); @@ -229,11 +229,27 @@ break; case CTL_TAB: - ch = &tab_control[root->cti_value - 1]; + { + int i = root->cti_value - 1 ; + if ( i >= MAXTAB ) { + /* must be a string, find a free entry */ + for (i = MAXTAB ; i < MAXTAB+MAXSTYLE ; i++) + if (tab_control[i] == NULL) + break; + if (i == MAXTAB+MAXSTYLE ) { + fprintf(stderr, "%s:%d: too many styles\n", + filename, lineno); + exit(-1); + } + } + ch = &tab_control[i]; if (*ch) ctlappend(*ch, root->ct_next); - else + else if (i< MAXTAB) *ch = root->ct_next; + else + *ch = root; /* keep name as well */ + } break; default: @@ -547,7 +563,7 @@ } /* CTL_PREFIX in tab_control should be CTL_TABPREFIX. */ - for (l = 0; l < MAXTAB; l++) { + for (l = 0; l < MAXTAB+ MAXSTYLE; l++) { for (cp = tab_control[l]; cp; cp = cp->ct_next) { if (cp->ct_op == CTL_PREFIX) cp->ct_op = CTL_TABPREFIX; @@ -882,7 +898,26 @@ ctlcopy(tab_control[tab_depth])); } } + /* special: style escape */ + if (p && *p == '&') { + char *p0 = p ; + int i ; + for ( ; *p && *p >32 && *p <127; p++ ) ; + *p = '\0'; + cp->ctc_value = p+1 ; + for (i=MAXTAB; i < MAXTAB+MAXSTYLE ; i++) { + if (tab_control[i] && + strcmp(p0+1, tab_control[i]->cti_value)==0) + break ; + } + if (i == MAXTAB+MAXSTYLE) + fprintf(stderr, "style %s not found\n", p0+1); + else { + ctlinsert(&cp1->ct_next, + ctlcopy(tab_control[i]->ct_next)); + } + } } } To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 26 14:19:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA04911 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 14:19:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from north.lcs.mit.edu (north.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA04773 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 14:18:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjh@north.lcs.mit.edu) Received: from north.lcs.mit.edu by north.lcs.mit.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA21174; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 16:58:48 -0400 From: Mark Handley X-Organisation: Information Sciences Institute, USC X-Phone: +1 617 253 6011 To: Roger Hardiman cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Improvements to the bt848 driver - SW Pan and Zoom. In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:01:41 BST." <35937185.27CF@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 16:58:48 -0400 Message-ID: <21172.898894728@north.lcs.mit.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >I've been thinking about an improvement to the bt848 driver. >The same could be made to the meteor driver too. > >I'd like to grab from a sub-section of the video image. >This allows the software pan and zoom functions you can get with >a fixed camera with a wide angle lense. > >Currently, the bt848 driver captures the full NTSC (or PAL) image >and scales it down to the desired image size, say 192x128 pixels. The downside unfortunately is interlacing. If you grab say, 320x240 (from an NTSC source), you typically grab only the even (or odd) fields, and don't get interlace artifacts. If you grab 320x240 as a subsection of the 640x480 (or PAL) image, you get interlace artifacts because you need to grab both fields. Thus it will look worse that the scaled video and these artifacts also adversely affect most video codecs. Cheers, Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 26 14:53:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA12956 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 14:53:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12876 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 14:53:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03951; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 14:52:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199806262152.OAA03951@rah.star-gate.com> To: Jacques Vidrine cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hasty@rah.star-gate.com Subject: Re: when is a bt848 not a bt848? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 26 Jun 1998 13:26:00 CDT." <199806261826.NAA02220@bone.nectar.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <3948.898897979.1@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 14:52:59 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Cool, you probably have a bt878 if you do I can try to help you out this weekend . Wish I had your card 8) Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jun 26 17:21:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA07712 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 17:21:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bone.nectar.com (bone.nectar.com [204.27.67.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA07690 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 17:21:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nectar@bone.nectar.com) Received: from bone.nectar.com (localhost.communique.net [127.0.0.1]) by bone.nectar.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id TAA00506; Fri, 26 Jun 1998 19:20:23 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199806270020.TAA00506@bone.nectar.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 X-PGP-RSAfprint: 00 F9 E6 A2 C5 4D 0A 76 26 8B 8B 57 73 D0 DE EE X-PGP-RSAkey: http://www.nectar.com/nectar-pgp262.txt From: Jacques Vidrine In-reply-to: <199806262152.OAA03951@rah.star-gate.com> References: <199806262152.OAA03951@rah.star-gate.com> Subject: Re: when is a bt848 not a bt848? To: Amancio Hasty cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 19:20:23 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi, If I try the obvious fix (make the probe succeed by handling device=0x0878), i2cRead fails. It appears to hang, but I believe it is sitting in this loop waiting for an interrupt: /* wait for completion */ for ( x = 0x7fffffff; x; --x ) { /* safety valve */ if ( bt848->int_stat & BT848_INT_I2CDONE ) break; } I haven't had the patience to wait more then a minute or so at this point, since I figure it'll try the i2cRead 127 more times anyway. :-) Jacques Vidrine On 26 June 1998 at 14:52, Amancio Hasty wrote: > Cool, you probably have a bt878 if you do I can try to help > you out this weekend . Wish I had your card 8) > > Cheers, > Amancio > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNZQ6xzeRhT8JRySpAQEosAQAgIbilLN2WlnwQYnovDkdptc4uXGWswDN IB/giBKBjvUe4GqxkdayLyusgZh9EQk6RwS8Zfy2Is0coRJgetzFemjqjsVLlWbc ci4nQNFleGYGwU2EBVTYRJ0dRyTy0r6t0/KX1ZDUC6iVnCHSBPgNv/Ump4LB8yUm Dnw7QeMwwjQ= =b4sB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jun 27 14:17:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01527 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 14:17:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from thelab.hub.org (dyna2-175.acadiau.ca [131.162.2.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01517 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 14:17:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.8.8/8.8.2) with SMTP id SAA15058 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 18:17:28 -0300 (ADT) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 18:17:28 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: cd-write utility... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm trying to use the CDwrite utility taht is in ports, and the interface looks great, except it is too long for my screen. I have my "window" set such that it is small enough that most ppl complain about not being able to read it, yet if I go into the 'mkisofs' utility inside of cd-write, I can't see the bottom...where I *think* is the button to press to actually do the image? Anyone else have this problem, or is it just something I've setup wrong for cd-write itself? Thanks... Marc G. Fournier Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jun 27 18:11:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA29435 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 18:11:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from thelab.hub.org (tc-23.acadiau.ca [131.162.2.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA29428 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 18:11:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.8.8/8.8.2) with SMTP id WAA11377; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 22:11:36 -0300 (ADT) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 22:11:35 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Jean-Marc Zucconi cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cd-write utility... In-Reply-To: <9806280046.AA16576@cabri.obs-besancon.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 28 Jun 1998, Jean-Marc Zucconi wrote: > >>>>> The Hermit Hacker writes: > > > I'm trying to use the CDwrite utility taht is in ports, and the interface > > looks great, except it is too long for my screen. I have my "window" set > > such that it is small enough that most ppl complain about not being able > > to read it, yet if I go into the 'mkisofs' utility inside of cd-write, I > > can't see the bottom...where I *think* is the button to press to actually > > do the image? > > > Anyone else have this problem, or is it just something I've setup wrong > > for cd-write itself? > > Run your X display in 1280x1024 (or use a virtual of that size) :-) > but in any case you must be able to move the window so that the bottom > become visible? I'm still working with an old 15" monitor :( Need to upgrade it one of these days when I can afford it...would it be possible to give a scroll bar on the side of that window? I don't imagine that everyone has the capabilities of runnign 1280x1024, and this gives me one less reason to have to boot in to Win95, and image there are others that feel similar :) Marc G. Fournier Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jun 27 18:17:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA00582 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 18:17:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cabri.obs-besancon.fr (cabri.obs-besancon.fr [193.52.184.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA00577 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 18:17:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jmz@cabri.obs-besancon.fr) Received: by cabri.obs-besancon.fr (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA16576; Sun, 28 Jun 98 02:46:36 +0200 Date: Sun, 28 Jun 98 02:46:36 +0200 Message-Id: <9806280046.AA16576@cabri.obs-besancon.fr> From: Jean-Marc Zucconi To: scrappy@hub.org Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: (message from The Hermit Hacker on Sat, 27 Jun 1998 18:17:28 -0300 (ADT)) Subject: Re: cd-write utility... X-Mailer: Emacs Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>>> The Hermit Hacker writes: > I'm trying to use the CDwrite utility taht is in ports, and the interface > looks great, except it is too long for my screen. I have my "window" set > such that it is small enough that most ppl complain about not being able > to read it, yet if I go into the 'mkisofs' utility inside of cd-write, I > can't see the bottom...where I *think* is the button to press to actually > do the image? > Anyone else have this problem, or is it just something I've setup wrong > for cd-write itself? Run your X display in 1280x1024 (or use a virtual of that size) :-) but in any case you must be able to move the window so that the bottom become visible? Jean-Marc _____________________________________________________________________________ Jean-Marc Zucconi Observatoire de Besancon F 25010 Besancon cedex PGP Key: finger jmz@cabri.obs-besancon.fr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message