From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Aug 9 16:17:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA06827 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 16:17:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jehova.owl.de (jehova.owl.de [194.121.202.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06771 for ; Sun, 9 Aug 1998 16:17:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tron@lyssa.owl.de) Received: from colwyn.owl.de (root@colwyn.owl.de [194.123.65.89]) by jehova.owl.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA28064 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 01:16:55 +0200 (MEST) Received: from lyssa.owl.de (root@lyssa.owl.de [194.123.65.90]) by colwyn.owl.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA17215 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 01:16:55 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from tron@localhost) by lyssa.owl.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA13942 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 01:16:55 +0200 (MEST) Message-ID: <19980810011654.A13932@lyssa.owl.de> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 01:16:54 +0200 From: Matthias Scheler To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: PAL BT878 patch for src/sys/pci/brooktree848.c Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, here is a patch for "src/sys/pci/brooktree848.c" which will make it work with the PAL version of the BT878 based Haupauge WinTV/PCI. Regards -- Matthias Scheler http://home.owl.de/~tron/ --- brooktree848.c.old Sun Aug 9 22:21:30 1998 +++ brooktree848.c Sun Aug 9 23:32:45 1998 @@ -4427,6 +4427,7 @@ goto checkDBX; + case 0x8: case 0xb: bktr->card.tuner = &tuners[ PHILIPS_PALI ]; goto checkDBX; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Aug 10 15:42:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11430 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 15:42:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spawn.nectar.com (spawn.nectar.com [204.27.67.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11410 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 15:42:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nectar@spawn.nectar.com) Received: from localhost.nectar.com ([127.0.0.1] helo=spawn.nectar.com) by spawn.nectar.com with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #1) for multimedia@freebsd.org id 0z60d8-0006YU-00; Mon, 10 Aug 1998 17:41:30 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 X-PGP-RSAfprint: 00 F9 E6 A2 C5 4D 0A 76 26 8B 8B 57 73 D0 DE EE X-PGP-RSAkey: http://www.nectar.com/nectar-pgp262.txt From: Jacques Vidrine Subject: fxtv and video capture To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 17:41:30 -0500 Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello folks, I'm attempting to create an MPEG using FXTV. Unfortunately, I seem to be having some problem with the audio. FXTV runs and captures video and audio to a AVraw file. After the capture, running the conversion script produces a zero-length AUDraw file, which eventually causes the script to blow up sox or mpeg_musicin. This seems to happen in all capture modes. Has anyone else seen this? Or perhaps someone has a cookbook for capturing video? BTW, capturing _just_ video or _just_ audio seems to work just fine. *shrug* Thanks in advance, Jacques Vidrine / n@nectar.com / jvidrine@verio.net / nectar@FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNc93GjeRhT8JRySpAQG1UgQAlOdppARN598lnGRDEtXPUhgiZKKuaGQM lGW74XKe9ytHV5M2gQkTDd5b0r0lL2388LreIiu3/izWOgyFZu9D36hPMhcd/0g2 V/RDbrjWT1xKkwZpFeKXJawp8XQzcbongmyy38Rsrt1pnvfWgac8OmXkqWI79UsC d7Xk7u2EeWw= =2wTU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Aug 11 06:22:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA28996 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 11 Aug 1998 06:22:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gilgamesch.bik-gmbh.de (gilgamesch.bik-gmbh.de [194.233.237.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA28990 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 1998 06:22:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cracauer@gilgamesch.bik-gmbh.de) Received: (from cracauer@localhost) by gilgamesch.bik-gmbh.de (8.8.8/8.7.3) id PAA05801; Tue, 11 Aug 1998 15:23:46 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19980811152345.A5770@cons.org> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 15:23:45 +0200 From: Martin Cracauer To: "Daniel O'Connor" , Robert Lynn Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: squake AND quake.x11: revisited (dont we just LOVE this?) References: <19980805161529.13985.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com> <199808060145.LAA24519@cain.gsoft.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.1i In-Reply-To: <199808060145.LAA24519@cain.gsoft.com.au>; from Daniel O'Connor on Thu, Aug 06, 1998 at 11:15:31AM +0930 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In <199808060145.LAA24519@cain.gsoft.com.au>, Daniel O'Connor wrote: > > > i get to Console initialized. Then a coredump. I dont > > have any sound drivers at all (my ess wont work for some odd reason > > ) Same in squake :P ANyone know why? i was cat'ing the > > core file and it compiaings about sounds then.... > > Uh, sound dead. > > Well, squake won't work :) Its the svgalib version, and the linux svgalib > won't work under emulation. Sure it does, Amancio did this. Check the archives. For me, it works at least to run it with a 3dfx card. > The X11 version should work, although I did notice that Quake 2 crashes > without a sound car available, but I thought Q 1 didn't have a problem, but > maybe it does :-/ The problem here is that Quake2 uses the mmap interface to the soundcard. Only Amancio's driver for the GUS (which isn't being built anymore...) implements this. > You could try downloading the demo version of OSS from > http://www.4front-tech.com and see if it works :) Their version for -current usually don't run on recent -currents (for me) and you need -current to get the Linux emulation patches for Quake2... Martin -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Martin Cracauer http://www.cons.org/cracauer BSD User Group Hamburg, Germany http://www.bsdhh.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Aug 11 18:01:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA13820 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 11 Aug 1998 18:01:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA13809 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 1998 18:01:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@cain.gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA22709; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 10:30:51 +0930 (CST) Message-Id: <199808120100.KAA22709@cain.gsoft.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Martin Cracauer cc: Robert Lynn , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: squake AND quake.x11: revisited (dont we just LOVE this?) In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 11 Aug 1998 15:23:45 +0200." <19980811152345.A5770@cons.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 10:30:51 +0930 From: "Daniel O'Connor" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Well, squake won't work :) Its the svgalib version, and the linux svgalib > > won't work under emulation. > Sure it does, Amancio did this. Check the archives. For me, it works > at least to run it with a 3dfx card. Yes, I didn't specify.. Amancio hacked up svgalib enough to allocate a virtual terminal, and thats about all it needs to do, because the 3dfx card switches out your 2d card. It doesn't actually allow you to draw anything to the display. > The problem here is that Quake2 uses the mmap interface to the > soundcard. Only Amancio's driver for the GUS (which isn't being built > anymore...) implements this. The Voxware drive supports GUS DMA I thought..? > > You could try downloading the demo version of OSS from > > http://www.4front-tech.com and see if it works :) > Their version for -current usually don't run on recent -currents (for > me) and you need -current to get the Linux emulation patches for > Quake2... Ahh... damn :-/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- |Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software | |http://www.gsoft.com.au | |The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to| |choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Aug 12 14:38:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17561 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 14:38:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from central.picker.com (central.picker.com [144.54.31.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17556 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 14:38:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com (ct.picker.com [144.54.37.11]) by central.picker.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA19838; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 17:48:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20475; Wed, 12 Aug 98 17:37:36 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA25383; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 17:37:21 -0400 Message-Id: <19980812173720.A25281@ct.picker.com> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 17:37:20 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: jphdumas@lemel.fr, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fxtv pal-secam Mail-Followup-To: jphdumas@lemel.fr, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199808051537.RAA23198@gmailint1.globalmail.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199808051537.RAA23198@gmailint1.globalmail.net>; from JPH Dumas on Wed, Aug 05, 1998 at 05:37:05PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sorry for the long delay since your original message. Life outside of FreeBSD has been keeping me busy in recent months. JPH Dumas: |fxtv sort of works, my antenna is worse than anything, but i can |see that I receive some images on some channels. ... |It does not crash, but when i push the wrong button, X get mad, |the screen is out of sync obviously, and I have to ctrl+alt+bs. |But no problems, I can live with it. Ok, probably what you're talking about here is full-screen zoom. If you do a full-screen zoom (by default bound to a Btn1 click, , and "z"), Fxtv will flip down to the closest configured video mode to the max resolution of the TV input format you're running (typically 640x480 for NTSC). For PAL folks (768x576), this will likely end up being 800x600 if this mode is configured in your XF86Config. Not quite full screen but pretty close. Now if that closest video mode isn't configed up to work on your monitor, you'll see it lose sync. Also, if your card isn't supported well by the version of XFree you're running, it may not work either. An easy way to test for the former is to cycle through all your configed video modes inside of X using Ctrl-Alt-+. If your monitor never loses sync, your mode configs all look good. That leaves the X Server. Make sure you're running the latest XFree (3.3.2), latest Fxtv (0.47), and latest bt848 driver. If still problems let me know and we can work through where the culprit is. |OK, now some questions: Oh!, I wasn't suppose that last one :-) |- Is there a way to fine tune the frequency while fxtv is running, |something like small increments/decrements bound to the + and - key, |go back to programmed channel frequency by =. You can dial in specific frequencies by typing "f" and then the frequency. For example, "f180.5", and fine tune (sort of) by typing in close frequencies (f180.6, f180.7). Kind'of a pain though. Currently there isn't a supported TVSetStation() action rtn arg for incremental frequency changes. See section 1.6.2 in the Fxtv README: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fxtv/README for examples. Extending the argument syntax to support incremental frequency changes wouldn't be hard. For example, these are already supported: TVSetStation( +1 ) - bump channel by 1 TVSetStation( -1 ) - bump channel down by 1 TVSetStation( f61.25 ) - change to frequency 61.25 MHz a natural extension for incremental frequency changes would be: TVSetStation( f+.1 ) - bump frequency up .1 MHz TVSetStation( f-.1 ) - bump frequency down .1 MHz |I may even volunteer to write this, if I know a little bit more |about how to do it. I program no problems in C, but I don't have |the slightest knowledge in X11 programming... Feel free to take a stab. Mail me the diffs and I'll add 'em in :-) No X knowledge should be required. Take a look at actions.c::TVActionSetStationAction(). I think all the mods needed for your suggestion would be in here. |- One thing that strikes me is that I never had the sound, exept the loud |cling-clang when changing channel in audio-auto, so I switched to |audio-internal. The hardware is SB64 AWE, I use snd0 and sbxxx drivers, |but I don't know if it is ok. How to test this part ? Kernel is happy |but I have no indication that at the app level everything is ok. |-btw, is there somewhere a awe64 driver ? (I tried the 32, no joy.) See http://multiverse.com/~rhh/awedrv. In particular, see the PnP link. All AWE64s are PnP so you got to get the configed up right before you can do much with them. |-The tuner in this card seems to be a zillion times less sensitive |(a with a zillion times worse s/n ratio) than regular TV, is this |true ? any figure about it ? No experience with your particular tuner. The Philips NTSC on mine is good though. No complaints. |- Is there any way to go full screen ? The window limit to 640x578 (or |something), i.e. a fourth of the screen surface. Well, I can probably |set XF86config for a 640x480 full screen. Is there an easy way to do |this at startx time ? (my XF86config is voluntarily restricted to |1280x1024, but I just have to uncomment 640x480 32 100hz, I hope) Yep as I mentioned above. It'll try to flip down to the closest video mode you have configed to the max resolution of your tuner. For SECAM, that should be the MAX PAL res of 768x576. So if you have 800x600 configed, it'll flip down to that (given that the vidmode extension works with your X server and video card combo). |-What about /dev/mix, I don't have a /dev/mix, what should it be ? |(I don't remember which program keeps complaining about it, |I tried quite some this afternoon, and I have to walk to use the net) It's actually /dev/mixer. This is typically a symlink to the default mixer, usually /dev/mixer0. If you don't have these, try: cd /dev; sh MAKEDEV snd0 I think Roger caught most of your other questions. Let us know if we missed some. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Aug 12 14:49:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA18988 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 14:49:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from central.picker.com (central.picker.com [144.54.31.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA18969 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 14:49:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com (ct.picker.com [144.54.37.11]) by central.picker.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA19913; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 17:59:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20793; Wed, 12 Aug 98 17:48:38 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA25411; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 17:48:19 -0400 Message-Id: <19980812174819.B25281@ct.picker.com> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 17:48:19 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Jacques Vidrine , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fxtv and video capture Mail-Followup-To: Jacques Vidrine , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Jacques Vidrine on Mon, Aug 10, 1998 at 05:41:30PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jacques Vidrine: |I'm attempting to create an MPEG using FXTV. Unfortunately, I |seem to be having some problem with the audio. FXTV runs and |captures video and audio to a AVraw file. After the capture, |running the conversion script produces a zero-length AUDraw file, |which eventually causes the script to blow up sox or mpeg_musicin. | |This seems to happen in all capture modes. | |Has anyone else seen this? Or perhaps someone has a cookbook |for capturing video? Are you running Fxtv 0.47? |BTW, capturing _just_ video or _just_ audio seems to work just |fine. *shrug* Hmmmm. It does sound mighty suspicious :-) Please check your IRQ assignments and make sure your motherboard isn't assigning your TV card the same IRQ as your soundcard. In fact, just post the output of: dmesg | egrep 'irq|drq' If that's it, make sure you have your soundcard's IRQs reserved for the ISA bus in your motherboard BIOS. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Aug 12 14:51:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA19430 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 14:51:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from central.picker.com (central.picker.com [144.54.31.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19392 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 14:51:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com (ct.picker.com [144.54.37.11]) by central.picker.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA19926; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 18:02:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20846; Wed, 12 Aug 98 17:50:57 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA25425; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 17:50:41 -0400 Message-Id: <19980812175041.C25281@ct.picker.com> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 17:50:41 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Matthias Scheler , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PAL BT878 patch for src/sys/pci/brooktree848.c Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Scheler , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19980810011654.A13932@lyssa.owl.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19980810011654.A13932@lyssa.owl.de>; from Matthias Scheler on Mon, Aug 10, 1998 at 01:16:54AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matthias Scheler: |here is a patch for "src/sys/pci/brooktree848.c" which will make it work |with the PAL version of the BT878 based Haupauge WinTV/PCI. Cool, thanks! Anybody with commit priveledges got a 878-based card? Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Aug 12 15:02:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20886 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 15:02:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from central.picker.com (central.picker.com [144.54.31.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20796; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 15:02:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com (ct.picker.com [144.54.37.11]) by central.picker.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA20049; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 18:13:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21120; Wed, 12 Aug 98 18:01:46 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA25475; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 18:01:29 -0400 Message-Id: <19980812180129.D25281@ct.picker.com> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 18:01:29 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Roger Hardiman , current@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Sren Schmidt Subject: Re: brooktree848 driver for 2.2.8 and -stable Mail-Followup-To: Roger Hardiman , current@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, Sren Schmidt References: <35C9DF20.462DF047@cs.strath.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <35C9DF20.462DF047@cs.strath.ac.uk>; from Roger Hardiman on Thu, Aug 06, 1998 at 05:51:44PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Roger Hardiman: |Recently a few users have complained about card detection of their |bt848 based TV cards which were solved by using the -current driver. |(Mainly Hauppauge users and Hauppauge 404 cards with 878 chips) | |As the -current driver has proved trustworthy, I think we should merge |it into the -stable tree for inclusion in 2.2.8. | |What do you think to this? It sounds like a good idea to me. This should greatly help user frustration in getting their card set up, particularly on -stable where they're not supposed to have to be hackers to get going. I'd sponser, but I don't have commit. Soren, would you sponser it? Randall Hopper rhh@ct.picker.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Aug 12 19:12:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA21276 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 19:12:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA21201 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 19:11:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from cs.strath.ac.uk (posh.dmem.strath.ac.uk [130.159.202.3]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA03976 Thu, 13 Aug 1998 03:11:04 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <35D24B2D.9DB2C577@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 03:10:53 +0100 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: Strathclyde Uni X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-980520-SNAP i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randall Hopper , ahasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Putting the bt848 driver into the GENERIC kernel References: <35C9DF20.462DF047@cs.strath.ac.uk> <19980812181205.E25281@ct.picker.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Randall, Amancio, Multimedia's I was wondering why we do not have the bt848 driver in the GENERIC kernel. Why do we have to build a new kernel before we can watch TV with FXTV? At first I thought it was because the 864k of RAM the driver allocates. You may not want the Generic Kernel allocating this space. But as FXTV supports the DGA Direct Video mode (DMA transfer from bt848->video card directly) there is no need for a frame buffer in all situations. FXTV can work without it. (It runs faster in DGA mode anyway) Video Capture, e.g. vic, frame_capture for a webcam etc, requires it. We could have a bktr0 in the GENERIC kernel which does not allocate memory for a frame buffer. FXTV users can then boot up and watch TV right away. Video Capture users - well they currently have to build a kernel anyway. Questions for this are... 1.How many FreeBSD users actually use the GENERIC kernel and do not recompile a personalised kernel? Of those using GENERIC kernel, is it really that they have no idea how to make a kernel. Or just no need to personalise it as it detects all their hardware. 2.Would Joe Public use his bt848 purely for FXTV (direct video mode). In which case, getting something in the GENERIC kernel would really help Joe Public. He can watch TV without having to know about kernel options and things. He would also save 864k of memory of memory. 3.What sound card support would a Generic Kernel need. Just enough to initialise the mixer and volume? Thoughts, comments, questions? Roger Roger Hardiman Strathclyde Uni Telepresence Group To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Aug 12 19:46:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA25327 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 19:46:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25320 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 19:46:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA18549; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 19:45:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199808130245.TAA18549@rah.star-gate.com> To: Roger Hardiman cc: Randall Hopper , ahasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hasty@rah.star-gate.com Subject: Re: Putting the bt848 driver into the GENERIC kernel In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 13 Aug 1998 03:10:53 BST." <35D24B2D.9DB2C577@cs.strath.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <18546.902976343.1@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 19:45:43 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I like the idea of getting the "TV" out of the box and just pressing the "on" button to watch a program . Oops , I meant FreeBSD not "TV" 8) Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Aug 12 23:16:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA15404 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 23:16:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA15398; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 23:16:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.8.8) id IAA00342; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 08:15:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) Message-Id: <199808130615.IAA00342@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: brooktree848 driver for 2.2.8 and -stable In-Reply-To: <19980812180129.D25281@ct.picker.com> from Randall Hopper at "Aug 12, 98 06:01:29 pm" To: rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 08:15:02 +0200 (CEST) Cc: roger@cs.strath.ac.uk, current@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG From: Søren Schmidt Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In reply to Randall Hopper who wrote: > Roger Hardiman: > |Recently a few users have complained about card detection of their > |bt848 based TV cards which were solved by using the -current driver. > |(Mainly Hauppauge users and Hauppauge 404 cards with 878 chips) > | > |As the -current driver has proved trustworthy, I think we should merge > |it into the -stable tree for inclusion in 2.2.8. > | > |What do you think to this? > > It sounds like a good idea to me. This should greatly help user > frustration in getting their card set up, particularly on -stable where > they're not supposed to have to be hackers to get going. > > I'd sponser, but I don't have commit. Soren, would you sponser it? I've allready got a deal with Roger :), I'll get it in as soon as I get a few moments... I cannot promise anything about a 2.2.8 release though, but the snaps are daily generated at releng22.freebsd.org. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end? .. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Aug 12 23:23:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA16323 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 23:23:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA16316 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 23:23:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.8.8) id IAA00369; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 08:21:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) Message-Id: <199808130621.IAA00369@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: PAL BT878 patch for src/sys/pci/brooktree848.c In-Reply-To: <19980812175041.C25281@ct.picker.com> from Randall Hopper at "Aug 12, 98 05:50:41 pm" To: rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 08:21:35 +0200 (CEST) Cc: tron@netbsd.org, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG From: Søren Schmidt Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In reply to Randall Hopper who wrote: > Matthias Scheler: > |here is a patch for "src/sys/pci/brooktree848.c" which will make it work > |with the PAL version of the BT878 based Haupauge WinTV/PCI. > > Cool, thanks! Anybody with commit priveledges got a 878-based card? Its allready in :) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end? .. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Aug 12 23:38:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA17139 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 23:38:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sos.freebsd.dk (sos.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA17134 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 1998 23:38:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@sos.freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by sos.freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.8.8) id IAA00393; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 08:36:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) Message-Id: <199808130636.IAA00393@sos.freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: Putting the bt848 driver into the GENERIC kernel In-Reply-To: <35D24B2D.9DB2C577@cs.strath.ac.uk> from Roger Hardiman at "Aug 13, 98 03:10:53 am" To: roger@cs.strath.ac.uk (Roger Hardiman) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 08:36:52 +0200 (CEST) Cc: rhh@ct.picker.com, ahasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG From: Søren Schmidt Reply-to: sos@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In reply to Roger Hardiman who wrote: > Randall, Amancio, Multimedia's > > I was wondering why we do not have the bt848 driver in the GENERIC > kernel. There are several good reasons why this isn't the case, and why the GENERIC config is like it is. First there are HW that needs to be probed in the right sequence to avoid hanging up other HW that might use the same address space or other resources. Then there is the space issue, the GENERIC kernel plus install tools HAS to fit on a floppy with limitted space. Then in this specific case there are a couble more problems. The bt848 driver has close to no probe code, ie it will fail to recognise the card in say 80% of the cases (in fact besides the newest cards it fails utterly), giving the user a hell of a time trying to figure out what is wrong. Then we need sound, erhm, that is not much easier to do a generic setup for. Granted if we used Luigi's drivers we would have support for most generic cards, so that might work. As much as I would like the GENERIC kernel to have all this functionality built in, equally much I see all the problems its uncovers. We could change the bootfloppy to use another (BOOTGENERIC) kernel and then have the system install another (BIGGENERIC) kernel from the bindist when the install is done, that change would be trivial and give the space needed for extra drivers. But until the bt848 driver can make sense out of a significant bigger fraction of the HW, I'd really recommend against this, as it will only bury us under a truckload of errorreports from the (new)users. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Søren Schmidt (sos@FreeBSD.org) FreeBSD Core Team Even more code to hack -- will it ever end? .. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Aug 13 04:08:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA11717 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 04:08:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA11637 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 04:08:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from neipc-17.cs.strath.ac.uk (scary.dmem.strath.ac.uk [130.159.202.5]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA10295 Thu, 13 Aug 1998 12:08:03 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <35D2C9D4.2AAE@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 12:11:16 +0100 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: University of Strathclyde X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Putting the bt848 driver into the GENERIC kernel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, > Soren wrote. > But until the bt848 driver can make sense out of a significant bigger > fraction of the HW, I'd really recommend against this, as it will > only bury us under a truckload of errorreports from the (new)users. Would it? The error messages we expect to see are FXTV does not work problems, with Tuner or Sound. The SYSCTLS fix this. (in the -current driver. not in -stable yet) A card config setup in FXTV would solve this. You can easily cycle through the cards/tuners until something works. And we can always cover ourselves by saying the BIG(GENERIC)KERNEL only supports Hauppauge cards. Their detection is excellent due to the onboard EEPROM. Roger Strathclyde Uni Telepresence Group (26 hours to vacation) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Aug 13 04:10:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA12220 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 04:10:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA12185 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 04:10:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from neipc-17.cs.strath.ac.uk (scary.dmem.strath.ac.uk [130.159.202.5]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA10305 Thu, 13 Aug 1998 12:08:11 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <35D2C9DC.47D0@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 12:11:24 +0100 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: University of Strathclyde X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Putting the bt848 driver into the GENERIC kernel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all Soren suggested a BOOTKERNEL and BIGKERNEL. I agree with that. Small (fit on floppy) BOOTKERNEL. Then the actuallt GENERIC kernel on the hard disk is the BIGKERNEL (bt848 DGA mode only support - no frame buffer allocation, and say Luigi's PCM code - really we just want the mixer and volume control) Soren, could you take it up with whoever in core handles the Build/Kernel process to see if they are interested in the idea please. Thanks Roger Strathclyde Uni Telepresence Group (26 hours to vacation) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Aug 13 04:24:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA13630 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 04:24:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from central.picker.com (central.picker.com [144.54.31.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA13581; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 04:23:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com (ct.picker.com [144.54.37.11]) by central.picker.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id HAA21012; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 07:34:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06244; Thu, 13 Aug 98 07:23:19 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA28294; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 07:22:48 -0400 Message-Id: <19980813072247.A27067@ct.picker.com> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 07:22:47 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Roger Hardiman , ahasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, Amancio Hasty , sos@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Putting the bt848 driver into the GENERIC kernel Mail-Followup-To: Roger Hardiman , ahasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@freebsd.org, Amancio Hasty , sos@FreeBSD.ORG References: <35C9DF20.462DF047@cs.strath.ac.uk> <19980812181205.E25281@ct.picker.com> <35D24B2D.9DB2C577@cs.strath.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <35D24B2D.9DB2C577@cs.strath.ac.uk>; from Roger Hardiman on Thu, Aug 13, 1998 at 03:10:53AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Roger Hardiman: |But as FXTV supports the DGA Direct Video mode (DMA transfer from |bt848->video card directly) there is no need for a frame buffer in all |situations. FXTV can work without it. (It runs faster in DGA mode |anyway) Video Capture, e.g. vic, frame_capture for a webcam etc, requires |it. Amancio Hasty: |I like the idea of getting the "TV" out of the box and just |pressing the "on" button to watch a program . Oops , I meant |FreeBSD not "TV" 8) At first thought, it sounds appealing to me too :-), but... Ok, as far as Fxtv goes, it only uses DGA when the video window is unoccluded. When it is partially occluded by another window, it falls back and uses XImages mode via the driver capture buffer. Due to the nature of X, it isn't really practical to do DGA and just adjust the clipping region when the window is partially occluded. It would "mostly" work, but since it's not a general solution I didn't pursue it. Also, you mentioned the buffer size issue. There's also some concern about the size of the generic kernel fitting on boot floppy, which I see Soren mentioned. And a few other things Soren pointed out that are good points. Sren Schmidt: |As much as I would like the GENERIC kernel to have all this functionality |built in, equally much I see all the problems its uncovers. I second that. I also Soren's "BIGGENERIC" kernel idea. If it was easier to boot BIGGENERIC up than to tell someone how to configure and build a new kernel (which is almost a given!), and if our detection hit-rate was good (Amancio, wasn't that what you were working on last? -- did that make it in by chance?) then BIGGENERIC really makes good sense! It could even live on the CD and be made primary by a configuration option. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Aug 13 06:10:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA26181 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 06:10:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA26162 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 06:10:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from neipc-17.cs.strath.ac.uk (scary.dmem.strath.ac.uk [130.159.202.5]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA14375 Thu, 13 Aug 1998 14:09:54 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <35D2E663.7AF0@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 14:13:07 +0100 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: University of Strathclyde X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FXTV and DGA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As DGA is only used when the FXTV window is not occluded, then I guess a small driver with no frame buffer is pretty pointless :-( Still I agree with Randall, the BIGKERNEL could be on the CD and then made the default kernel in the installation program. Bye Roger To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Aug 13 08:11:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09706 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 08:11:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hotpoint.dcs.qmw.ac.uk (hotpoint.dcs.qmw.ac.uk [138.37.88.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA09692; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 08:11:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scott@dcs.qmw.ac.uk) Received: from brunos-sun.dcs.qmw.ac.uk [138.37.88.185]; by hotpoint.dcs.qmw.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.5/S-4.0) with SMTP; id QAA09162; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:10:44 +0100 (BST) Received: locally by brunos-sun (SMI-8.6/QMW-client-3.2b); poster "scott"; id QAA06957; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:04:06 +0100 Message-ID: <19980813160406.C6924@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:04:06 +0100 From: Scott Mitchell To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: [scott@dcs.qmw.ac.uk: Re: FXTV and DGA] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Oops! Sent this to -questions by accident. Sorry all. ----- Forwarded message from Scott Mitchell ----- Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:02:16 +0100 From: Scott Mitchell To: Roger Hardiman Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FXTV and DGA X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <35D2E663.7AF0@cs.strath.ac.uk>; from Roger Hardiman on Thu, Aug 13, 1998 at 02:13:07PM +0100 On Thu, Aug 13, 1998 at 02:13:07PM +0100, Roger Hardiman wrote: > As DGA is only used when the FXTV window is not occluded, then > I guess a small driver with no frame buffer is pretty pointless :-( > > Still I agree with Randall, the BIGKERNEL could be on the CD > and then made the default kernel in the installation program. This may be a dumb suggestion (I don't use fxtv so I have no idea if this will work or not), but couldn't the driver be made into an LKM? Then the user could set an option to have it enabled, during the install process. As I say, maybe impossible, but it would solve the problems of kernel bloat and ease of installation at once. Cheers, Scott. -- =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID |"If I can't have my coffee, I'm just | 0x54B171B9 | like a dried up piece of roast goat" QMW College, London, UK | 0xAA775B8B | -- J. S. Bach. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID |"If I can't have my coffee, I'm just | 0x54B171B9 | like a dried up piece of roast goat" QMW College, London, UK | 0xAA775B8B | -- J. S. Bach. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Aug 13 08:59:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA16881 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 08:59:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from central.picker.com (central.picker.com [144.54.31.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA16874 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 08:59:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com (ct.picker.com [144.54.37.11]) by central.picker.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA22610; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 12:10:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16242; Thu, 13 Aug 98 11:59:03 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA00312; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 11:58:46 -0400 Message-Id: <19980813115846.A301@ct.picker.com> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 11:58:46 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Roger Hardiman , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Putting the bt848 driver into the GENERIC kernel Mail-Followup-To: Roger Hardiman , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG References: <35D2C9DC.47D0@cs.strath.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <35D2C9DC.47D0@cs.strath.ac.uk>; from Roger Hardiman on Thu, Aug 13, 1998 at 12:11:24PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Roger Hardiman: |Soren suggested a BOOTKERNEL and BIGKERNEL. | |I agree with that. Small (fit on floppy) BOOTKERNEL. |Then the actuallt GENERIC kernel on the hard disk is the BIGKERNEL |(bt848 DGA mode only support - no frame buffer allocation, and say |Luigi's PCM code - really we just want the mixer and volume control) That'd be a good first-cut. We'd just need a way to detect in the app when the driver buffer isn't available so driver-buffer capture modes could be disabled. A good second cut might be to beg/borrow/steal a guru VM hacker that could repair vm_contig_malloc (sp) so that it works after memory has been fragmented. That is, reorganize/bump/swap to free up the physical mem we need for the driver buffer after boot-up. This would by default only be done when the driver opened, not when it's probed/attached, so no lost memory if you don't use the driver (except code space). After all, AFAIK this is the only reason we alloc the buffer at boot-time anyway. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Aug 13 09:21:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA20166 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 09:21:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA20160 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 09:21:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from muir-10 (roger@muir-10.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.148.10]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA17835 Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:16:47 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <35D31170.2781@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:16:48 +0100 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: University of Strathclyde X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Mitchell CC: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FXTV and DGA References: <35D2E663.7AF0@cs.strath.ac.uk> <19980813160216.B6924@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Scott > > This may be a dumb suggestion (I don't use fxtv so I have no idea if > this will work or not), but couldn't the driver be made into an LKM? Funny you should mention it, but Amancio, Randall and later myself talked about this around 8 months ago. The problem was basically this. You need to allocate configuous memory for the frame buffer. At boot time, this is easy. Memory is empty and you can allocate a 864k block of memory with no gaps in it. However, I was told that by the time the system has booted, and the LKM executed, there is quite possible you cannot get a contiguous block of memory as the memory is fragmented. Basically, you need a memeory manager that can shift memory blocks around making a large space. I was told the current memory management code cannot do this. But if we could do it, then the LKM would be great. Bye Roger Roger Hardiman Strathclyde Uni Telepresence Group To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Aug 13 17:41:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA18797 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:41:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (penguin-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se [194.237.142.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA18786 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:41:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@camelot.eno.ericsson.se) Received: from camelot.eno.ericsson.se (camelot.eno.ericsson.se [150.236.172.92]) by penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.9.0/8.9.0/glacier-1.11) with ESMTP id CAA04425; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 02:40:38 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from london.eno.ericsson.se (london [150.236.172.10]) by camelot.eno.ericsson.se with SMTP (8.7.1/8.7.1) id IAA03158; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 08:42:16 +0800 (SST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2-alpha [p0] on HPUX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <35D2C9DC.47D0@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 08:42:26 +0730 (SST) Organization: Ericsson, Pte Ltd From: Gregory Hosler To: Roger Hardiman Subject: Re: Putting the bt848 driver into the GENERIC kernel Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org why not just compile the driver as a loadable module ? just curious, -Greg On 13-Aug-98 Roger Hardiman wrote: >Hi all > >Soren suggested a BOOTKERNEL and BIGKERNEL. > >I agree with that. Small (fit on floppy) BOOTKERNEL. >Then the actuallt GENERIC kernel on the hard disk is the BIGKERNEL >(bt848 DGA mode only support - no frame buffer allocation, and say >Luigi's PCM code - really we just want the mixer and volume control) > >Soren, could you take it up with whoever in core handles the >Build/Kernel process to see if they are interested in the idea please. > >Thanks >Roger >Strathclyde Uni Telepresence Group >(26 hours to vacation) > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Gregory Hosler Date: 14-Aug-98 Time: 08:41:458 "And where were you at 00:00:00 GMT, January 1, 1970?" -- As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain, and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality. -- Albert Einstein ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Aug 13 18:58:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA29780 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 18:58:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA29763 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 18:58:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA11299; Thu, 13 Aug 1998 21:58:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Message-Id: <199808140158.VAA11299@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Roger Hardiman cc: Scott Mitchell , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: FXTV and DGA References: <35D2E663.7AF0@cs.strath.ac.uk> <19980813160216.B6924@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> <35D31170.2781@cs.strath.ac.uk> In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:16:48 BST." <35D31170.2781@cs.strath.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 21:58:03 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Scott > > > > This may be a dumb suggestion (I don't use fxtv so I have no idea if > > this will work or not), but couldn't the driver be made into an LKM? > > Funny you should mention it, but Amancio, Randall and later myself > talked about this around 8 months ago. > > The problem was basically this. > You need to allocate configuous memory for the frame buffer. > > At boot time, this is easy. Memory is empty and you can allocate > a 864k block of memory with no gaps in it. > However, I was told that by the time the system has booted, > and the LKM executed, there is quite possible you cannot get a > contiguous block of memory as the memory is fragmented. > > Basically, you need a memeory manager that can shift memory blocks > around making a large space. > > I was told the current memory management code cannot do this. > > > But if we could do it, then the LKM would be great. The alternative approach is to allocate some number of smaller (pagesize?) buffers, and then build a command program for the Bt848 to do a scatter read into the discountinuous buffers. This might obviate the need for a static buffer in any case. louie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Aug 14 00:17:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA08466 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 00:17:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from control.colossus.dyn.ml.org (206-18-115-33.la.inreach.net [206.18.115.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA08092; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 00:16:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dburr@colossus.dyn.ml.org) Received: (from dburr@localhost) by control.colossus.dyn.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA03639; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 00:14:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dburr) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 00:14:30 -0700 (PDT) Organization: Computer Help From: Donald Burr To: FreeBSD Multimedia , FreeBSD Hackers mailing list Subject: 3dfx thingie (GLIDE) for FreeBSD? Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A while ago, a guy (forget his name -- was it Kevin ?) was asking for help and testers for porting some 3dfx (VOodoo) thingie -- GLIDE? -= to FreeBSD. At the time, I didn't pay much attention to it, since I had no interested in purchasing such a card. But I have one now, and would like to use it under FreeBSD. I'd be happy to be a tester and help out where I can. If someone would be so kind as to point me in the direction of this project (a web site? or the maintainer's e-mail address, even) I would be very grateful. Many thanks! --- Donald Burr *NEW EMAIL ADDRESS!* | PGP: Your WWW HomePage: http://DonaldBurr.base.org/ ICQ#16997506 | right to Address: P.O. Box 91212, Santa Barbara, CA 93190-1212 | 'Net privacy. Phone: (805) 957-9666 FAX: (800) 492-5954 | USE IT. >>FreeBSD - Turning PCs into Workstations - http://www.freebsd.org/<< To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Aug 14 02:21:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA24636 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 02:21:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from foobar.franken.de (foobar.franken.de [194.94.249.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA24596; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 02:20:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from logix@foobar.franken.de) Received: (from logix@localhost) by foobar.franken.de (8.8.8/8.8.5) id LAA08042; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 11:19:44 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19980814111944.50903@foobar.franken.de> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 11:19:44 +0200 From: Harold Gutch To: Donald Burr , FreeBSD Multimedia , FreeBSD Hackers mailing list Subject: Re: 3dfx thingie (GLIDE) for FreeBSD? References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: ; from Donald Burr on Fri, Aug 14, 1998 at 12:14:30AM -0700 X-Organisation: BatmanSystemDistribution X-Mission: To free the world from the Penguin Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Aug 14, 1998 at 12:14:30AM -0700, Donald Burr wrote: > A while ago, a guy (forget his name -- was it Kevin ?) was > asking for help and testers for porting some 3dfx (VOodoo) thingie -- > GLIDE? -= to FreeBSD. > > If someone would be so kind as to point me in the direction of this > project (a web site? or the maintainer's e-mail address, even) I would be > very grateful. > I guess you're thinking of Kurt Olsen and Kevin Day . Kurt was the one who originally posted to -multimedia, Kevin replied stating that he had already gotten a "yes" and the sources from 3dfx and would be starting with the port later that week. -- bye, logix Sleep is an abstinence syndrome wich occurs due to lack of caffein. Wed Mar 4 04:53:33 CET 1998 #unix, ircnet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Aug 14 05:48:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA17964 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 05:48:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from central.picker.com (central.picker.com [144.54.31.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA17957 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 05:48:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com (ct.picker.com [144.54.37.11]) by central.picker.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA25758; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 08:57:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15476; Fri, 14 Aug 98 08:46:42 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA06111; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 08:46:21 -0400 Message-Id: <19980814084621.A6084@ct.picker.com> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 08:46:21 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: Gregory Hosler , Roger Hardiman Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Putting the bt848 driver into the GENERIC kernel Mail-Followup-To: Gregory Hosler , Roger Hardiman , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG References: <35D2C9DC.47D0@cs.strath.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Gregory Hosler on Fri, Aug 14, 1998 at 08:42:26AM +0730 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Gregory Hosler: |On 13-Aug-98 Roger Hardiman wrote: |>Soren suggested a BOOTKERNEL and BIGKERNEL. | |why not just compile the driver as a loadable module ? | |just curious, Roger recounted through that in a recent thread (attached). The issue is the vm_contig_alloc call the driver uses to alloc the DMA phys memory doesn't work after the system has booted. It doesn't have the smarts to bump/swap/rearrange phys page mappings to get suffic contig phys mem. Know any VM hackers that could take a crack at it? Having a bt848 driver LKM would be really cool. :-) As would not having the driver alloc the uffer on probe/attach, but rather on open where it makes the most sense. Randall Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:16:48 +0100 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: University of Strathclyde Subject: Re: FXTV and DGA Scott > > This may be a dumb suggestion (I don't use fxtv so I have no idea if > this will work or not), but couldn't the driver be made into an LKM? Funny you should mention it, but Amancio, Randall and later myself talked about this around 8 months ago. The problem was basically this. You need to allocate configuous memory for the frame buffer. At boot time, this is easy. Memory is empty and you can allocate a 864k block of memory with no gaps in it. However, I was told that by the time the system has booted, and the LKM executed, there is quite possible you cannot get a contiguous block of memory as the memory is fragmented. Basically, you need a memeory manager that can shift memory blocks around making a large space. I was told the current memory management code cannot do this. But if we could do it, then the LKM would be great. Bye Roger Roger Hardiman Strathclyde Uni Telepresence Group To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Aug 14 06:31:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA26045 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 06:31:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from central.picker.com (central.picker.com [144.54.31.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA26039 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 06:31:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com (ct.picker.com [144.54.37.11]) by central.picker.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA25991; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 09:41:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16997; Fri, 14 Aug 98 09:29:56 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA08034; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 09:29:24 -0400 Message-Id: <19980814092923.A6722@ct.picker.com> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 09:29:23 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: "Louis A. Mamakos" , Roger Hardiman Cc: Scott Mitchell , Amancio Hasty , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FXTV and DGA Mail-Followup-To: "Louis A. Mamakos" , Roger Hardiman , Scott Mitchell , Amancio Hasty , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG References: <35D2E663.7AF0@cs.strath.ac.uk> <19980813160216.B6924@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> <35D31170.2781@cs.strath.ac.uk> <199808140158.VAA11299@whizzo.transsys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199808140158.VAA11299@whizzo.transsys.com>; from Louis A. Mamakos on Thu, Aug 13, 1998 at 09:58:03PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Louis A. Mamakos: |> The problem was basically this. |> You need to allocate configuous memory for the frame buffer. |> |> At boot time, this is easy. Memory is empty and you can allocate |> a 864k block of memory with no gaps in it. |> However, I was told that by the time the system has booted, |> and the LKM executed, there is quite possible you cannot get a |> contiguous block of memory as the memory is fragmented. ... |The alternative approach is to allocate some number of smaller (pagesize?) |buffers, and then build a command program for the Bt848 to do a scatter |read into the discountinuous buffers. This might obviate the need for |a static buffer in any case. Good idea. Some extra complexity building the RISC pgm, but a lot of benefit gained. Particularly if we could just alloc the necessary 4K pages as we need one by one on-the-fly. Don't have my bt manual here, but the only thing that comes to mind is splitting scan lines and/or pixel (e.g. packed 24bpp) on these subbuffer boundaries. I can't remember how flexible the bt848 is in dealing with this, though Amancio I'm sure knows. Worth a look though. Think the former is OK, but don't know about the latter. I wish I had the time to dig into it now, but I'm in the middle of a move/househunt/jobchg right now. Any takers? A bt848 LKM would be cool, as would not allocing the driver buffer until we open the device. A plus for BIGGENERIC inclusion. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Aug 14 06:39:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA27009 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 06:39:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from beowulf.utmb.edu (beowulf.utmb.edu [129.109.59.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA27001 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 06:39:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bdodson@beowulf.utmb.edu) Received: (from bdodson@localhost) by beowulf.utmb.edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) id IAA16604; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 08:35:04 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 08:35:04 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199808141335.IAA16604@beowulf.utmb.edu> From: "M. L. Dodson" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Harold Gutch Cc: Donald Burr , FreeBSD Multimedia Subject: Re: 3dfx thingie (GLIDE) for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <19980814111944.50903@foobar.franken.de> References: <19980814111944.50903@foobar.franken.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.22 under 19.15p7 XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Harold Gutch writes: > On Fri, Aug 14, 1998 at 12:14:30AM -0700, Donald Burr wrote: > > A while ago, a guy (forget his name -- was it Kevin ?) was > > asking for help and testers for porting some 3dfx (VOodoo) thingie -- > > GLIDE? -= to FreeBSD. > > > > If someone would be so kind as to point me in the direction of this > > project (a web site? or the maintainer's e-mail address, even) I would be > > very grateful. > > > I guess you're thinking of Kurt Olsen > and Kevin Day . > Kurt was the one who originally posted to -multimedia, Kevin > replied stating that he had already gotten a "yes" and the > sources from 3dfx and would be starting with the port later that > week. > I don't ordinarily read -multimedia, but this seems peripheral to -hackers, so I trimmed them. This would not include a hardware-accelerated Mesa integration would it? I use SGIs for scientific computation, and would really like to be able to recompile some of that software to run on my personal FreeBSD wksta. Unaccelerated Mesa is just inadequate to the task (XIG Matrox Millenium II video, PPro 200). Bud Dodson > -- > bye, logix > > Sleep is an abstinence syndrome wich occurs due to lack of caffein. > Wed Mar 4 04:53:33 CET 1998 #unix, ircnet > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message > -- M. L. Dodson bdodson@scms.utmb.edu 409-772-2178 FAX: 409-772-1790 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Aug 14 10:19:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00747 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 10:19:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from quark.ChrisBowman.com (crbowman.erols.com [209.122.47.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00720 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 10:19:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crb@ChrisBowman.com) Received: from fermion (fermion [10.0.1.2]) by quark.ChrisBowman.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA02017; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 13:19:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from crb@ChrisBowman.com) Message-Id: <199808141819.NAA02017@quark.ChrisBowman.com> X-Sender: crb@quark.ChrisBowman.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 13:15:51 -0400 To: "M. L. Dodson" From: "Christopher R. Bowman" Subject: Re: 3dfx thingie (GLIDE) for FreeBSD? Cc: Harold Gutch , Donald Burr , FreeBSD Multimedia In-Reply-To: <199808141335.IAA16604@beowulf.utmb.edu> References: <19980814111944.50903@foobar.franken.de> <19980814111944.50903@foobar.franken.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 09:35 AM 8/14/98 , M. L. Dodson wrote: >Harold Gutch writes: > > On Fri, Aug 14, 1998 at 12:14:30AM -0700, Donald Burr wrote: > > > A while ago, a guy (forget his name -- was it Kevin ?) was > > > asking for help and testers for porting some 3dfx (VOodoo) thingie -- > > > GLIDE? -= to FreeBSD. > > > > > > If someone would be so kind as to point me in the direction of this > > > project (a web site? or the maintainer's e-mail address, even) I would be > > > very grateful. > > > > > I guess you're thinking of Kurt Olsen > > and Kevin Day . > > Kurt was the one who originally posted to -multimedia, Kevin > > replied stating that he had already gotten a "yes" and the > > sources from 3dfx and would be starting with the port later that > > week. > > > >I don't ordinarily read -multimedia, but this seems peripheral to > -hackers, so I trimmed them. > >This would not include a hardware-accelerated Mesa integration >would it? I use SGIs for scientific computation, and would >really like to be able to recompile some of that software to run >on my personal FreeBSD wksta. Unaccelerated Mesa is just >inadequate to the task (XIG Matrox Millenium II video, PPro 200). Yes it would, that's the whole reason to port the glide layer to FreeBSD, cause then you can take advantage of Mesas already existent support for the glide layer and run OpenGL using hardware acceleration. I have even heard that the current Linux glide layer can be run on FreeBSD under emulation, though I would make sure before I went out and bought a card. -------- Christopher R. Bowman crb@ChrisBowman.com http://www.ChrisBowman.com/~crb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Aug 14 10:31:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA02605 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 10:31:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from central.picker.com (central.picker.com [144.54.31.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA02597 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 10:31:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ct.picker.com) Received: from ct.picker.com (ct.picker.com [144.54.37.11]) by central.picker.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA27166; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 13:41:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from elmer.ct.picker.com ([144.54.57.34]) by ct.picker.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24259; Fri, 14 Aug 98 13:30:41 EDT Received: by elmer.ct.picker.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA10067; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 13:30:20 -0400 Message-Id: <19980814133020.A10050@ct.picker.com> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 13:30:20 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Luigi Rizzo Subject: Re: Sound Configuration Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, Luigi Rizzo References: <19980807122513.A29113@oneinsane.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19980807122513.A29113@oneinsane.net>; from Ron 'The Insane One' Rosson on Fri, Aug 07, 1998 at 12:25:13PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ron 'The Insane One' Rosson: |Now what I am looking for is what do I change in the kernel configuration |file to change to luigi's driver and what are my benefits. I also saw a Luigi can help you here. |posting to a reference to a Randal Hoppers driver as well but no address |where to find it. The card is a SoundBlaster AWE32. http://multiverse.com/~rhh/awedrv Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Aug 14 11:29:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA14052 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 11:29:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (rah.star-gate.com [209.133.7.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA14042 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 11:29:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02274; Fri, 14 Aug 1998 11:29:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199808141829.LAA02274@rah.star-gate.com> To: Randall Hopper cc: "Louis A. Mamakos" , Roger Hardiman , Scott Mitchell , Amancio Hasty , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hasty@rah.star-gate.com Subject: Re: FXTV and DGA In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 14 Aug 1998 09:29:23 EDT." <19980814092923.A6722@ct.picker.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <2271.903119345.1@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 11:29:05 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The problem is that if we split the capture frame we will have to do scatter / gather. One possibility is to create an MM loader whose function is to allocate memory for the multimedia drivers and have the loader read a file to determine how much memory it should allocate. This approach is similar in nature to what some Win 95 drivers do : the .ini file determines how much contigous memory should be allocated for the driver. Cheers, Amancio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Aug 15 08:54:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08510 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 08:54:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wireless.4d.net (wireless.4d.net [207.137.156.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08504 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 08:54:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bad@uhf.wireless.net) Received: from uhf.wireless.net (uhf.wireless.net [207.137.157.140]) by wireless.4d.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA20889 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 09:01:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bad@localhost) by uhf.wireless.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) id IAA00615 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 08:54:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 08:54:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Bernie Doehner Message-Id: <199808151554.IAA00615@uhf.wireless.net> To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: post snd980608 driver events? Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Gang: Been offline for a while and not been able to follow the sound driver events. What happened after Luigi's snd980607? Presently running 3.0-19980804-SNAP and reading audio works, but I can no longer write.. HELP! Bernie P.S. This is an opti931 card that worked really well with Marchish SNAP and Luigi driver.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Aug 15 10:11:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA14330 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 10:11:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wireless.4d.net (wireless.4d.net [207.137.156.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA14320 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 10:11:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bad@uhf.wireless.net) Received: from uhf.wireless.net (uhf.wireless.net [207.137.157.140]) by wireless.4d.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with ESMTP id KAA20988 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 10:19:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wireless.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA00792 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 10:11:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 10:11:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Bernie Doehner To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: latest sound driver news? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Gang: Been offline awhile.. Just upgraded to 3.0-19980804-SNAP, and my opti931 (which worked under snd980607 and 3.0-19980520-SNAP just fine). Could someone please fill me in on what I missed? I can read from /dev/audio1 just fine, and my Hauppauge card works just fine (audio and video), but I can't write.. Bernie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Aug 15 14:24:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14346 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 14:24:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA14339 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 14:24:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id VAA22282; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 21:37:31 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199808151937.VAA22282@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: latest sound driver news? To: bad@uhf.wireless.net (Bernie Doehner) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 21:37:31 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Bernie Doehner" at Aug 15, 98 10:11:25 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Been offline awhile.. > > Just upgraded to 3.0-19980804-SNAP, and my opti931 (which worked under > snd980607 and 3.0-19980520-SNAP just fine). > > Could someone please fill me in on what I missed? > > I can read from /dev/audio1 just fine, and my Hauppauge card works just > fine (audio and video), but I can't write.. no idea, but -stable and -current have the april version of my sound code, and i haven't done any development of audio after snd980607, so... might it be something related with permissions ? luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Aug 15 14:28:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA15142 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 14:28:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA15137 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 14:28:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id VAA22293; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 21:41:06 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199808151941.VAA22293@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Sound Configuration To: rhh@ct.picker.com (Randall Hopper) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 21:41:05 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19980814133020.A10050@ct.picker.com> from "Randall Hopper" at Aug 14, 98 01:30:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Ron 'The Insane One' Rosson: > |Now what I am looking for is what do I change in the kernel configuration > |file to change to luigi's driver and what are my benefits. I also saw a > > Luigi can help you here. my philosophy is don't change things that work, so if the old driver/configuration works well for you, then keep it. If it doesn't , try to switch to the "pcm" driver and if it works for you, you'll see the benefit yourself :) See the README file in /sys/i386/isa/snd or the manpage in http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/snd980607.tgz cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Aug 15 21:50:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA00670 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 21:50:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from thing.dyn.ml.org (dyn1-tnt13-65.detroit.mi.ameritech.net [199.179.188.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA00665 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 21:50:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mcdougall@ameritech.net) Received: from ameritech.net (bsdx [192.168.1.2]) by thing.dyn.ml.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA19631 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 1998 00:49:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mcdougall@ameritech.net) Message-ID: <35D664E3.B43E5F12@ameritech.net> Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 00:49:39 -0400 From: Adam McDougall X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: WinTV and annoying High pitch Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I'd like to say thanks! to all the people who made the bt8x8 drivers and the fxtv app as good as they are! I bought a Hauppauge WinTV card this weekend, compiled kernel support, compiled the fxtv port and everything worked correctly. But, the audio channel has a quite annoying high pitched frequency like that of a real tv's high freq transformers. I can hear the audio fine, but the high pitched sound is brain piercing :) Is this just my particular cable signal from the cable company? Or something I can tweak in software? Is this common? Unheard of? Thanks in advance. bktr0: rev 0x02 int a irq 11 on pci0.13.0 brooktree0: PCI bus latency is 32. bktr0: buffer size 3555328, addr 0x3000000 bktr: GPIO is 0x00fffffb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Aug 15 22:09:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA01883 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 22:09:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bandicoot.prth.tensor.pgs.com (bandicoot.prth.tensor.pgs.com [157.147.224.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA01878 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 22:09:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shocking@ariadne.prth.tensor.pgs.com) Received: from ariadne.tensor.pgs.com (ariadne [157.147.227.36]) by bandicoot.prth.tensor.pgs.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA15343 for ; Sun, 16 Aug 1998 13:08:13 +0800 (WST) Received: from ariadne by ariadne.tensor.pgs.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA10066; Sun, 16 Aug 1998 13:08:51 +0800 Message-Id: <199808160508.NAA10066@ariadne.tensor.pgs.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 3DFX OPENGL MINIPORT PORTED TO LINUX. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 13:08:51 +0800 From: Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org See zoid@idsoftware.com's .plan. Stephen -- The views expressed above are not those of PGS Tensor. "We've heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could produce the Complete Works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true." Robert Wilensky, University of California To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Aug 15 22:42:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA03500 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 22:42:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wireless.4d.net (wireless.4d.net [207.137.156.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA03495 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 22:42:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bad@uhf.wireless.net) Received: from uhf.wireless.net (uhf.wireless.net [207.137.157.140]) by wireless.4d.net (8.8.7/8.8.4) with ESMTP id WAA21663; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 22:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (bad@localhost) by uhf.wireless.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA01389; Sat, 15 Aug 1998 22:42:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 22:42:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Bernie Doehner To: Luigi Rizzo cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: latest sound driver news? In-Reply-To: <199808151937.VAA22282@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > no idea, but -stable and -current have the april version of my sound > code, and i haven't done any development of audio after snd980607, so... > might it be something related with permissions ? Hi Luigi: Thanks for response. WHAT? Well, I tried blindly overlaying snd980607 on top of /sys/i386/isa/snd, and it didn't compile.. sndioctl mismatch, but I clearly must research more.. I thought it was /dev/audio1 for read and /dev/audio0 for write, RIGHT? Writing to audio0 complains that: "pcm0: unit not configured, perhaps you want pcm1?" No permissions have changed (as far as I know from when this last worked). More when I am awake. Bernie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message