From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Nov 8 18:52:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA27109 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 18:52:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.144.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA27104 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 18:52:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA09635; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 18:51:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 18:51:55 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AWE-32 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This belonged on either -questions or -multimedia. On Sun, 8 Nov 1998, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > Problem is, I was trying to set-up my SoundBlaster AWE-32, when > rebooting I got the fooling stuff at probing: > > Probing for PnP devices: > CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL009c [0x9c008c0e] Serial 0x10046cf4 Comp ID: PNP0600 > [0x0006d041] Okay, newer AWE32 with PnP support. SB32 perhaps? > sb0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 on isa > snd0: > sbxvi0 at ? drq 5 on isa > snd0: > sbmidi0 at 0x330 on isa > snd0: > awe0 at 0x620 on isa > AWE32: not detected > > Hold it! That's awkward... > > controller snd0 > device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 > device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5 > device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330 > device awe0 at isa? port 0x620 > > Am I missing something in here? Yes -- the snd driver is not pnp aware, while the pcm driver is. Replace what you have above with device pcm0 at isa? port 0 tty irq 0 dma 0 vector pcmintr rebuild, reboot, and you should be good to go. Doug White Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Nov 8 19:33:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA00970 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 19:33:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.144.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00964 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 19:33:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA17484; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 19:32:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 19:32:59 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White To: Zach Heilig cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Turtle Beach Fiji supported? In-Reply-To: <19981107031758.B15950@znh.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 7 Nov 1998, Zach Heilig wrote: > On Sat, Nov 07, 1998 at 12:42:27AM -0800, Doug White wrote: > > > The card has what the "docs" call a 'Turtle Beach 56K DSP Hurricane > > > Architecture" type sound chip (no mention of part numbers). > > > This smells like a MWave. > > Specifically (with further reading), it uses the Motorola 56002 DSP. Given > specs like: 20 bit D/A & 20 bit A/D, > 97dB SNR, a +/- 1dB bandwidth of > 10Hz to 22KHz, and full-duplex sound, it doesn't really resemble an MWave... I should have qualied that to 'an MWave-like device', ie a multifunction DSP. > > If they have the specs, someone will program it ... > > Well, they at least acknowledge that Linux exists (and have pointers to > preliminary linux drivers from the turtle beach website, which I picked up... > any pointers on converting a Linux driver to a FreeBSD one?). They also > supply the firmware (it seems to be 'soft' firmware.. needing to be loaded at > poweron). Yummy. Have fun. Doug White Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Nov 9 11:35:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA11700 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:35:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from slip-3.slip.net (slip-3.slip.net [207.171.193.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA11689 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:35:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sdn@slip.net) Received: from sdn by slip-3.slip.net with local (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zcx5J-0005Ub-00 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:34:45 -0800 From: sdn@slip.net (Steve Davidson) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:34:45 -0800 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Sound card: Compaq ES1868 Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have read the FAQ, manual, and i386/isa/sound/sound.doc and still am having trouble understanding the configuration for sound. The Compaq ES1868 is an ISA card and I cannot determine the irq or dma settings. Does the kernel set the card on boot up? If I knew the settings, would I still have to load several drivers in order to take full advantage of the card's capabilities? Is there software that I can use to determine if I have done everything properly? I.e. is there software that plays a range of sounds for several of the sound protocols? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Nov 9 13:03:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA21598 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:03:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA21583 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:03:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from chronias.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.58.114]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA833; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:03:29 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 22:07:34 +0100 (CET) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Doug White Subject: Re: AWE-32 Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 09-Nov-98 Doug White wrote: > This belonged on either -questions or -multimedia. I know by now, trust me ;) > On Sun, 8 Nov 1998, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > >> Probing for PnP devices: >> CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL009c [0x9c008c0e] Serial 0x10046cf4 Comp ID: PNP0600 >> [0x0006d041] > > Okay, newer AWE32 with PnP support. SB32 perhaps? Could be... Afaik... >> Am I missing something in here? > > Yes -- the snd driver is not pnp aware, while the pcm driver is. Replace > what you have above with > > device pcm0 at isa? port 0 tty irq 0 dma 0 vector pcmintr Yeah, did that... Thanks for the suggestion ... --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl | Cum angelis et pueris, Junior Network/Security Specialist | fideles inveniamur *BSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Nov 9 16:04:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA10806 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:04:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.144.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10724 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:04:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA08623; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:04:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:04:07 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White To: Steve Davidson cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sound card: Compaq ES1868 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Steve Davidson wrote: > I have read the FAQ, manual, and i386/isa/sound/sound.doc and still am > having trouble understanding the configuration for sound. > > The Compaq ES1868 is an ISA card and I cannot determine the irq or > dma settings. Does the kernel set the card on boot up? No, unless you have PnP enabled (and probably should) and have the pcmdriver built into the kernel. Doug White Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Nov 9 21:15:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA11514 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:15:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from n4hhe.ampr.org (tnt1-61.HiWAAY.net [208.147.147.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA11507 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:15:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dkelly@n4hhe.ampr.org) Received: from n4hhe.ampr.org (localhost.ampr.org [127.0.0.1]) by n4hhe.ampr.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA00327 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 23:15:12 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dkelly@n4hhe.ampr.org) Message-Id: <199811100515.XAA00327@n4hhe.ampr.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Luigi's driver, AOpen AW37, and me. From: David Kelly Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 23:15:12 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Eventually I got it working, but is it right? Here's how I got there: On advice that Crystal Semiconductor based sound cards were Good Stuff, plus the fact CS has 1MB PDF manuals online, I purchased an AOpen AW37 sound card for use under FreeBSD. This is based on the CS42345 chip. Didn't work under FreeBSD 2.2.7-stable so I spent the weekend upgrading to 3.0-current (via cvsup as of Sunday, and again tonight). Same failure message. These are the last two lines (is it position sensitive?) of my kernel config file: controller pnp0 device pcm0 at isa ? port? tty irq 5 drq 1 Output from dmesg: ... Probing for PnP devices: CSN 1 Vendor ID: CSCd925 [0x25d9630e] Serial 0xffffffff Comp ID: @@@0000 [0x0000 0000] ... pcm0 at 0x530 irq 5 drq 1 flags 0xa600 on isa mss_attach 0 at 0x530 irq 5 dma 1:1 flags 0xa600 So far, so good. Then "cd /dev; sh MAKEDEV snd0". Tried making snd1 as shown in pcm(4) but attempts to use /dev/audio1 stated the "device was not configured". Attempting to generate noise using "cat /usr/local/lib/exmh-2.0.2/drip.au > /dev/audio" yeilds silence and: timeout flushing dbuf_out, chan 1 cnt 0x2f7 flags 0x00000041 Hate to admit it in public, but when FreeBSD didn't like my sound card I booted the desparation OS, NT 4.0, and directly proceded to install that OS's drivers. After 13 reboots it was playing! Can only conclude the card and speakers work. And programmers at Microsoft really must be proud of their boot song to force so many reboots. :-) So then I went back and followed one more item: booted "kernel -c" and typed as instructed in the pcm(4) manpage: pnp 1 0 os enable port0 0x534 port2 0x220 irq0 5 drq0 1 drq1 3 Now I get noise out of the speakers but nothing I'm proud of. Barely recognizable. n4hhe: {1020} cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (981002) Nov 9 1998 22:12:45 Installed devices: pcm0: at 0x530 irq 5 dma 1:1 n4hhe: {1021} Why does the manpage say 0x534 but above says 0x530? OK, reboot again change the 0x534 to 0x530: pnp 1 0 os enable port0 0x530 port2 0x220 irq0 5 drq0 1 drq1 3 dmesg says: CSN 1 Vendor ID: CSCd925 [0x25d9630e] Serial 0xffffffff Comp ID: @@@0000 [0x0000 0000] ... pcm0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 on isa This time its missing the mss_attach I had earler. But now it works! (At least playback, haven't tried recording.) Sound is not the trashy garbage I was getting before. n4hhe: {1003} cat /dev/sndstat FreeBSD Audio Driver (981002) Nov 9 1998 22:12:45 Installed devices: pcm0: at 0x220 irq 5 dma 1:1 n4hhe: {1004} So whats the deal here? I'm guessing PnP didn't find the card at the first place I suggested, 0x530, altho when told 0x534 it found it, played terrible, yet reported via dmesg and /dev/sndstat it was at 0x530. Lacking an mss device at 0x530 it fell back to SoundBlaster Pro 3.2 at 0x220. What next? Have I done all that is possible? Is the above going to function full duplex? What do I need to do to hard code the PnP stuff into my kernel config so it doesn't have to be typed the next time I build a new kernel? How do I set the system volume control? -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Nov 9 21:38:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA13429 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:38:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA13419 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:38:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id EAA29559; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 04:38:03 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199811100338.EAA29559@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Luigi's driver, AOpen AW37, and me. To: dkelly@HiWAAY.net (David Kelly) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 04:38:03 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199811100515.XAA00327@n4hhe.ampr.org> from "David Kelly" at Nov 9, 98 11:14:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Eventually I got it working, but is it right? Here's how I got there: > > On advice that Crystal Semiconductor based sound cards were Good Stuff, > plus the fact CS has 1MB PDF manuals online, I purchased an AOpen AW37 > sound card for use under FreeBSD. This is based on the CS42345 chip. the problem is that the card has a PnP ID which is not on the list of recognized pnp ids.. in ad1848.c, in all places where you see a test against 0x3700630e, you should also add one for 0x25d9630e. This is in ad1848.c: (in exchange, could you tell me where did you get the card and how much payed for it, just to update my database...) cheers luigi static char * cs423x_probe(u_long csn, u_long vend_id) { char *s = NULL ; u_long id = vend_id & 0xff00ffff; if ( id == 0x3700630e ) s = "CS4237" ; + else if ( id == 0x25d9630e) + s = "CS4235" ; ... case 0x3700630e: /* CS4237 */ tmp_d.bd_id = MD_CS4237 ; break; + case 0x25d9630e: /* CS4235 */ + tmp_d.bd_id = MD_CS4237 ; /* really 4235 */ + break; cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 10 09:42:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA22609 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:42:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA22595 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:42:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id QAA00738; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:42:10 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199811101542.QAA00738@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: YMF724 info ? To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:42:10 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, i managed to get a PCI audio card based on the YMF724 codec. Unfortunately it seems the data sheets are not online on the yamaha web pages at least (ftp://ftp.yamahayst.com/pub/Fax_Back_Doc/Sound/). An Altavista search return quite a few URLs for japanese web pages (in japanese...) and i cannot tell if the doc is there. Is anyone of our japanese friends able to help me (the pages are at www.yamaha.co.jp, or maybe they know a phone number to call for documentation...) Yamaha has always been quite open with documentation so i guess it is just a matter to ask&find the right contact... thanks luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 10 11:32:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03968 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:32:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03963 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:32:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA06438 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:07:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from current1.whistle.com(207.76.205.22) via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpdze6432; Tue Nov 10 19:07:48 1998 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:07:15 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Gemmell speaks on Multicast, EE380 W4:15 Gates B03 (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FYI someone should try attend... :-) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:29:43 -0800 (PST) From: ee380 To: colloq@cs.stanford.edu Subject: Gemmell speaks on Multicast, EE380 W4:15 Gates B03 EE380 Computer Systems Colloquium Fall Quarter 1998-1999 Lecture #8 Date: Wednesday, Nov 11,1998 Time: 4:15-5:30 pm Location: NEC Auditorium (B03) Gates Computer Science Building SITN: See SITN Schedule for details... Internet: Live on the Net! See instructions on the Web page http://www-leland.stanford.edu/class/ee380 ********************************************************************** Title: A Scalable Multicast Architecture for Telepresentations Speaker: Jim Gemmell Microsoft Research About the talk: We have developed a scalable reliable multicast architecture for delivering one-to-many telepresentations. In contrast to audio and video, which are often transmitted unreliably, other media, such as slides, images and animations require reliability. Our approach transmits the data in two layers. One layer is for session-persistent data, with reliability achieved by FEC alone, using the Fcast protocol. The other layer is for dynamic data, with reliability achieved using the ECSRM protocol, which combines FEC with NACK suppression. Our approach is scalable to large heterogeneous receiver sets, and supports late-joining receivers. We have implemented our approach in a multicast version of PowerPoint, a graphical slide presentation tool. About the speaker: Jim Gemmell is a researcher in the Microsoft Research Telepresence Research Group - a part of the Bay Area Research Center (BARC) in San Francisco. He received his Ph.D. and B.Sc. from Simon Fraser University and his M. Math from University of Waterloo (all in computer science). His research interests include telepresence, telepresentations, digital audio and video storage/retrieval, and reliable multicast. He produced the on-line version of the ACM 97 conference. Contact information: Jim Gemmell jgemmell@microsoft.com ************************************************************************ * EE380 is the Computer Systems Laboratory Colloquium. The Colloquium * * meets most Wednesdays throughout the normal academic year. The class * * is broadcast over SITN and taped for late viewing in the Engineering * * Library. 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For directions| | to Stanford, check out http://www-forum.stanford.edu | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------xcl+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 10 12:09:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA07986 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:09:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from n4hhe.ampr.org (tnt1-183.HiWAAY.net [208.147.147.183]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA07978 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:09:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dkelly@n4hhe.ampr.org) Received: from n4hhe.ampr.org (localhost.ampr.org [127.0.0.1]) by n4hhe.ampr.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA03802; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:08:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dkelly@n4hhe.ampr.org) Message-Id: <199811102008.OAA03802@n4hhe.ampr.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Luigi Rizzo cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: Luigi's driver, AOpen AW37, and me. In-reply-to: Message from Luigi Rizzo of "Tue, 10 Nov 1998 04:38:03 +0100." <199811100338.EAA29559@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:08:17 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Luigi Rizzo writes: > This is in ad1848.c: > > ... > case 0x3700630e: /* CS4237 */ > tmp_d.bd_id = MD_CS4237 ; > break; > > + case 0x25d9630e: /* CS4235 */ > + tmp_d.bd_id = MD_CS4237 ; /* really 4235 */ > + break; Ok, but wouldn't this be more consistant? Or am I missing something? case 0x25d9630e: /* CS4235 */ case 0x3700630e: /* CS4237 */ tmp_d.bd_id = MD_CS4237 ; break; > (in exchange, could you tell me where did you get the card and how > much payed for it, just to update my database...) Happy to share that info. Found some sites on the web with Pricewatch that offered the AOpen AW37 for as little as $15, the AW37Pro with hardware wavetable for $25. Was in a local PC shop and bought a pretty box with a store sticker that said it was AW37Pro, $27.99. Turns out not to have been the Pro model. Or maybe its the AW35 which is the "Pro"? Anyhow, software wave table on my card. Card is AOpen P/N 90.18610.001. Just over the barcode on their S/N plaque is written in larger text than the S/N, "ENG VER: A". -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 10 18:35:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA24729 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:35:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from TYO203.gate.nec.co.jp (TYO203.gate.nec.co.jp [202.32.8.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA24721 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:34:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from y-nakaga@ccs.mt.nec.co.jp) Received: from mailsv.nec.co.jp (mailsv-le1 [192.168.1.90]) by TYO203.gate.nec.co.jp (8.9.1a/3.7W98092815) with ESMTP id LAA28866 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:34:40 +0900 (JST) Received: from gw.ccs.mt.nec.co.jp (gw.ccs.mt.nec.co.jp [133.201.2.2]) by mailsv.nec.co.jp (8.9.1a/3.7W-MAILSV-NEC) with ESMTP id LAA20907 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:34:40 +0900 (JST) Received: from mail.ccs.mt.nec.co.jp (mail.ccs.mt.nec.co.jp [133.201.3.22]) by gw.ccs.mt.nec.co.jp (8.8.8+2.7Wbeta7/3.3W9-GW_CCS) with ESMTP id LAA00918 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:29:11 +0900 (JST) Received: from spls63.ccs.mt.nec.co.jp (spls63.ccs.mt.nec.co.jp [172.16.5.30]) by mail.ccs.mt.nec.co.jp (8.9.1a/3.6W-CCS_Master) with ESMTP id LAA17813 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:34:39 +0900 (JST) Received: from ccs.mt.nec.co.jp by spls63.ccs.mt.nec.co.jp (8.8.8+2.7Wbeta7/6.4J.6-slave-1.0) id LAA29227; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:34:39 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199811110234.LAA29227@spls63.ccs.mt.nec.co.jp> To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: YMF724 info ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:42:10 +0100" References: <199811101542.QAA00738@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:34:39 +0900 From: Nakagawa Yoshihisa Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org | i managed to get a PCI audio card based on the YMF724 codec. | Unfortunately it seems the data sheets are not online on the yamaha web | pages at least (ftp://ftp.yamahayst.com/pub/Fax_Back_Doc/Sound/). I have YMF724 data sheet. But that data sheet is written by Japanese language and PAPER only, not online document. And Legacy compatible mode only. (Not include AC97 mode set-up.) -- Internet Engineering Laboratory, Networking Systems Laboratories, NEC Corporation NAKAGAWA, Yoshihisa y-nakaga@ccs.mt.nec.co.jp nakagawa@jp.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 10 19:00:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA27116 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:00:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from psyche.kaba.or.jp (psyche.kaba.or.jp [202.249.19.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA27107 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:00:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nyoshi@kaba.or.jp) Received: from chotto.kaba.or.jp (root@chotto.kaba.or.jp [202.249.19.16]) by psyche.kaba.or.jp (8.9.1/3.7Wpre7-psyche) with ESMTP id MAA18604 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:00:05 +0900 (JST) Received: from mail.kaba.or.jp (cascade.kaba.or.jp [202.249.19.34]) by chotto.kaba.or.jp (8.9.1/3.7W) with ESMTP id MAA19300 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:00:04 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199811110300.MAA19300@chotto.kaba.or.jp> To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: YMF724 info ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:34:39 JST." <199811110234.LAA29227@spls63.ccs.mt.nec.co.jp> User-Agent: EMH/1.10.0 SEMI/1.10.2 (Higashi-Kanazawa) FLIM/1.11.3 (Saidaiji) Emacs/20.3 (i386-unknown-freebsd2.2) MULE/4.0 (HANANOEN) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.10.2 - "Higashi-Kanazawa") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:00:04 +0900 From: YOSHIDA Nobuaki Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > | Unfortunately it seems the data sheets are not online on the yamaha web > | pages at least (ftp://ftp.yamahayst.com/pub/Fax_Back_Doc/Sound/). > I have YMF724 data sheet. But that data sheet is written by > Japanese language and PAPER only, not online document. And Legacy > compatible mode only. (Not include AC97 mode set-up.) You can find YMF724 data sheet in English at http://www.imail.net.tw/qtronix/qumax_product_yamaha.htm, but this is not official site... --- YOSHIDA Nobuaki / nyoshi@kaba.or.jp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 10 22:50:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA09049 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 22:50:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from TYO2.gate.nec.co.jp (TYO2.gate.nec.co.jp [203.180.98.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA09044 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 22:50:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from y-nakaga@ccs.mt.nec.co.jp) Received: from mailsv2.nec.co.jp (mailsv2-le1 [192.168.1.91]) by TYO2.gate.nec.co.jp (8.9.1a/3.7W98092815) with ESMTP id MAA08518 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:57:17 +0900 (JST) Received: from mailsv.nec.co.jp (mailsv.nec.co.jp [10.7.68.90]) by mailsv2.nec.co.jp (8.9.1a/3.7W-MAILSV2-NEC) with ESMTP id MAA22355 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:57:17 +0900 (JST) Received: from gw.ccs.mt.nec.co.jp (gw.ccs.mt.nec.co.jp [133.201.2.2]) by mailsv.nec.co.jp (8.9.1a/3.7W-MAILSV-NEC) with ESMTP id MAA27192 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:57:17 +0900 (JST) Received: from mail.ccs.mt.nec.co.jp (mail.ccs.mt.nec.co.jp [133.201.3.22]) by gw.ccs.mt.nec.co.jp (8.8.8+2.7Wbeta7/3.3W9-GW_CCS) with ESMTP id MAA06797 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:51:47 +0900 (JST) Received: from spls63.ccs.mt.nec.co.jp (spls63.ccs.mt.nec.co.jp [172.16.5.30]) by mail.ccs.mt.nec.co.jp (8.9.1a/3.6W-CCS_Master) with ESMTP id MAA25025 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:57:15 +0900 (JST) Received: from ccs.mt.nec.co.jp by spls63.ccs.mt.nec.co.jp (8.8.8+2.7Wbeta7/6.4J.6-slave-1.0) id MAA29501; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:57:15 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199811110357.MAA29501@spls63.ccs.mt.nec.co.jp> To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: YMF724 info ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:00:04 JST" References: <199811110300.MAA19300@chotto.kaba.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:57:15 +0900 From: Nakagawa Yoshihisa Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org | > I have YMF724 data sheet. But that data sheet is written by | > Japanese language and PAPER only, not online document. And Legacy | > compatible mode only. (Not include AC97 mode set-up.) | | You can find YMF724 data sheet in English at | http://www.imail.net.tw/qtronix/qumax_product_yamaha.htm, Probably, these are same data sheet, difference is langauge only. -- Internet Engineering Laboratory, Networking Systems Laboratories, NEC Corporation NAKAGAWA, Yoshihisa y-nakaga@ccs.mt.nec.co.jp nakagawa@jp.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 10 23:31:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA14550 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:31:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA14544 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:31:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id EAA01856; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 04:49:38 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199811110349.EAA01856@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Luigi's driver, AOpen AW37, and me. To: dkelly@hiwaay.net (David Kelly) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 04:49:38 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199811102008.OAA03802@n4hhe.ampr.org> from "David Kelly" at Nov 10, 98 02:07:58 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Ok, but wouldn't this be more consistant? Or am I missing something? > > case 0x25d9630e: /* CS4235 */ > case 0x3700630e: /* CS4237 */ > tmp_d.bd_id = MD_CS4237 ; the former (which is wrong, the right one is in -stable and -current now) is there to remind me that they are different cards and I need to define a new bd_id for the CS4235 cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Nov 11 14:08:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09090 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 14:08:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from n4hhe.ampr.org (tnt3-24.HiWAAY.net [208.147.146.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09082 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 14:08:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dkelly@n4hhe.ampr.org) Received: from n4hhe.ampr.org (localhost.ampr.org [127.0.0.1]) by n4hhe.ampr.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA14644; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:08:10 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dkelly@n4hhe.ampr.org) Message-Id: <199811112208.QAA14644@n4hhe.ampr.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Luigi Rizzo cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: Luigi's driver, AOpen AW37, and me. In-reply-to: Message from Luigi Rizzo of "Wed, 11 Nov 1998 04:49:38 +0100." <199811110349.EAA01856@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:08:10 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Luigi Rizzo writes: > > Ok, but wouldn't this be more consistant? Or am I missing something? > > > > case 0x25d9630e: /* CS4235 */ > > case 0x3700630e: /* CS4237 */ > > tmp_d.bd_id = MD_CS4237 ; > > the former (which is wrong, the right one is in -stable and -current > now) is there to remind me that they are different cards and I need to > define a new bd_id for the CS4235 Ok, I made the patches and built a kernel before mailing the above but haven't rebooted it to see what happens. Cvsup is running right now to pull your latest and I'll test The Real Thing shortly. Reminds me of something I forgot, something useful if one is keeping a database of sound cards, ones that work well vs. ones that don't. The worst thing about this card is on CPU reset they thump the speakers good and hard. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Nov 11 19:40:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA16704 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:40:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from top.worldcontrol.com (surf54.cruzers.com [205.215.232.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA16699 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:40:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@worldcontrol.com) From: brian@worldcontrol.com Received: (qmail 1374 invoked by uid 100); 12 Nov 1998 03:40:48 -0000 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:40:48 -0800 To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: LANC to RS232 converter Message-ID: <19981111194048.A1362@top.worldcontrol.com> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.94.9i Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anyone using a LanC to RS232 converter under FreeBSD? LanC is Sony's VCR/Camcorder control system. I'm planning to purchase one, just thought I check if anyone is already using one. -- Brian Litzinger To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Nov 11 21:17:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA26063 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:17:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from n4hhe.ampr.org (tnt3-121.HiWAAY.net [208.147.146.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA26057 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:17:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dkelly@n4hhe.ampr.org) Received: from n4hhe.ampr.org (localhost.ampr.org [127.0.0.1]) by n4hhe.ampr.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA00431; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:05:52 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dkelly@n4hhe.ampr.org) Message-Id: <199811120005.SAA00431@n4hhe.ampr.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Luigi Rizzo cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: Luigi's driver, AOpen AW37, and me. In-reply-to: Message from Luigi Rizzo of "Wed, 11 Nov 1998 04:49:38 +0100." <199811110349.EAA01856@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:05:52 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Luigi Rizzo writes: > > Ok, but wouldn't this be more consistant? Or am I missing something? > > > > case 0x25d9630e: /* CS4235 */ > > case 0x3700630e: /* CS4237 */ > > tmp_d.bd_id = MD_CS4237 ; > > the former (which is wrong, the right one is in -stable and -current > now) is there to remind me that they are different cards and I need to > define a new bd_id for the CS4235 We're not quite there yet. Got the latest -current rather than use my hand-typed patches. Built new kernel. Rebooted. Some things are the same, others are different. Dmesg now reports: [...] Probing for PnP devices: CSN 1 Vendor ID: CSCd925 [0x25d9630e] Serial 0xffffffff Comp ID: @@@0000 [0x00000000] mss_attach 1 at 0x530 irq 9 dma 0:0 flags 0x14 pcm1 (CS423x/Yamaha sn 0xffffffff) at 0x530-0x537 irq 9 drq 0 flags 0x14 on isa Probing for devices on the ISA bus: [...] pcm0 not found In the past with manual pnp info typed into "kernel -c" the sound device appeared on pcm0, after the ISA probe. Now Luigi's "MAKEDEV snd1" instructions make sense (vs "MAKEDEV snd0"). This time I didn't have to type anything into the kernel at boot. (Hurray!) How about that? I sorta expected to see the card show up on IRQ 5. And either DRQ 1 or 3. Am sure I can make use of IRQ 5 for something. Currently have most of my PCI cards on IRQ 15 to make room for this sound card. The above yeilds the same poor audio reported earlier. Sounds like an amplifier or D/A is being overdriven. Some sounds can be recognized. All take the correct amount of time to play. Does that ring any bells? When I messed something up just right and caused the driver to recognize the card as a SoundBlaster, sound was perfect. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Nov 11 22:57:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA04888 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:57:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA04883 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:57:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id FAA08973; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 05:57:54 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199811120457.FAA08973@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Luigi's driver, AOpen AW37, and me. To: dkelly@HiWAAY.net (David Kelly) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 05:57:54 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199811120005.SAA00431@n4hhe.ampr.org> from "David Kelly" at Nov 11, 98 06:05:33 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Luigi Rizzo writes: > > > Ok, but wouldn't this be more consistant? Or am I missing something? > > > > > > case 0x25d9630e: /* CS4235 */ > > > case 0x3700630e: /* CS4237 */ > > > tmp_d.bd_id = MD_CS4237 ; > > > > the former (which is wrong, the right one is in -stable and -current > > now) is there to remind me that they are different cards and I need to > > define a new bd_id for the CS4235 > > We're not quite there yet. ... > Probing for PnP devices: > CSN 1 Vendor ID: CSCd925 [0x25d9630e] Serial 0xffffffff Comp ID: @@@0000 [0x00000000] > mss_attach 1 at 0x530 irq 9 dma 0:0 flags 0x14 > pcm1 (CS423x/Yamaha sn 0xffffffff) at 0x530-0x537 irq 9 drq 0 flags 0x14 on isa yes, something going wrong here. The high DMA channel has not been allocated. pnpinfo output please. > How about that? I sorta expected to see the card show up on IRQ 5. And > either DRQ 1 or 3. Am sure I can make use of IRQ 5 for something. resources are assigned by the BIOS (or manually if you boot with -c) so in your case it seems that the BIOS sets the IRQ to 9, the output DMA channel to 0, and there is not another 8-bit DMA channel so the other one is unassigned (4 means none). > Currently have most of my PCI cards on IRQ 15 to make room for this > sound card. > > The above yeilds the same poor audio reported earlier. Sounds like an > amplifier or D/A is being overdriven. Some sounds can be recognized. All this is likely a format mismatch. With a given file, try catting it to /dev/dsp1, /dev/audio1, /dev/dspW1, one should work depending on your data format (unless you have stereo data...) cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Nov 12 00:51:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA14093 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 00:51:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailhost.charite.de (barrier-17.charite.de [193.175.73.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA14088 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 00:51:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from udo.wolter@charite.de) Received: by mailhost.charite.de (5.65v4.0/1.1.8.2/08Mar95-0213PM) id AA02569; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 09:50:47 +0100 Received: from postamt1.charite.de(193.175.70.246) by mailhost.charite.de via smap (V1.3-PCG 08/1998) id sma021258; Thu Nov 12 09:50:37 1998 Received: from localhost by postamt1.charite.de; (5.65/1.1.8.2/16Aug95-0231PM) id AA11014; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 09:50:36 +0100 Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 09:50:36 +0100 (MET) From: Udo Wolter X-Sender: uwp@postamt1.charite.de Reply-To: udo.wolter@charite.de To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ISA-Soundcards will vanish... Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi ! Regarding the subject if there are no PCI soundcards supported I want to ask if there will be a change in this attitude. I'm noticing a the growth of vanishing (hm, sounds funny, sorry for my bad english) of ISA soundcards. So what to do if I can only get worse soundcards with ISA bus ? I'm making music so I need an excellent soundcard for working. But when I'm reading in this list, that there are no PCI-cards supported I can only use WinCrap with a PCI card. Any statements for the future of sound in FreeBSD ? Or will sound in FreeBSD die ? What about OSS ? Do they support PCI ? Thanx, Udo -- Udo Wolter, email: uwp@i.am, www: http://i.am/uwp !!!! LOW-TECH Page: http://hello.to/low-tech !!!! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Nov 12 01:21:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA16403 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:21:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA16398 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:21:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from lot.gsoft.com.au (lot.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.106]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA17797; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 19:50:12 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 19:46:00 +1030 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Udo Wolter Subject: RE: ISA-Soundcards will vanish... Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 12-Nov-98 Udo Wolter wrote: > music so I need an excellent soundcard for working. But when I'm > reading in this list, that there are no PCI-cards supported I can only > use WinCrap with a PCI card. > > Any statements for the future of sound in FreeBSD ? Or will sound in FreeBSD > die ? What about OSS ? Do they support PCI ? I think you'll probably get 'send us the patches' :) Hrmm.. donating a PCI sound card to the FreeBSD team would probably help tho. --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Nov 12 02:29:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA21290 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 02:29:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA21284 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 02:29:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from muir-10 (roger@muir-10.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.148.10]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA20157 Thu, 12 Nov 1998 10:28:19 GMT Message-ID: <364AB844.2781@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 10:28:20 +0000 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: University of Strathclyde X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Daniel O'Connor" CC: Udo Wolter , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ISA-Soundcards will vanish... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, The lack of PCI soundcard support is down to three things. a) we need a developer with some spare time b) that developer needs a PCI sound card c) and they need the data sheets for the chipset. Often it is hard to get all three requirements met at the same time. Sometimes companies are reluctant to give out the chipset datasheets. But there is hope. NetBSD does have a driver for a PCI sound card (I forget which now) OSS does support some PCI soundcards. (I think the Sound Blaster 128) FreeBSD is only lacking due to resource problems. I agree on the need for this development. Now Sound Blaster have released the SB Live card, I can see the ISA AWE64's becoming harder to source. However, there will always be someone making the 'cheap and low quality' $20 ISA sound cards for a few years. Bye Roger To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Nov 12 02:29:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA21346 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 02:29:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA21289 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 02:29:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id JAA09330; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 09:28:07 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199811120828.JAA09330@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: ISA-Soundcards will vanish... To: udo.wolter@charite.de Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 09:28:07 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Udo Wolter" at Nov 12, 98 09:50:17 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Regarding the subject if there are no PCI soundcards supported I want to > ask if there will be a change in this attitude. I'm noticing a the growth > of vanishing (hm, sounds funny, sorry for my bad english) of ISA soundcards. > > So what to do if I can only get worse soundcards with ISA bus ? I'm making > music so I need an excellent soundcard for working. But when I'm i am not aware of kernel developers with an interest in music (i am not) so i'd say check OSS. cheers luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Nov 12 06:05:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA09763 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 06:05:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from qix (ppp005.infranet.fr [195.68.70.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA09755 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 06:05:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmz@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jmz@localhost) by qix (8.9.1/8.8.7) id PAA19220; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:03:30 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:03:30 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199811121403.PAA19220@qix> X-Authentication-Warning: qix: jmz set sender to jmz@qix using -f From: Jean-Marc Zucconi To: udo.wolter@charite.de CC: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from Udo Wolter on Thu, 12 Nov 1998 09:50:36 +0100 (MET)) Subject: Re: ISA-Soundcards will vanish... X-Mailer: Emacs Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>>> Udo Wolter writes: > Hi ! > Regarding the subject if there are no PCI soundcards supported I want to > ask if there will be a change in this attitude. I'm noticing a the growth > of vanishing (hm, sounds funny, sorry for my bad english) of ISA soundcards. > So what to do if I can only get worse soundcards with ISA bus ? I'm making > music so I need an excellent soundcard for working. But when I'm > reading in this list, that there are no PCI-cards supported I can only > use WinCrap with a PCI card. > Any statements for the future of sound in FreeBSD ? Or will sound in FreeBSD > die ? What about OSS ? Do they support PCI ? I am working on a driver for the SoundTrack 128 PCI. Jean-Marc -- Jean-Marc Zucconi PGP Key: finger jmz@FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Nov 12 07:38:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA18919 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 07:38:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailhost.charite.de (barrier-17.charite.de [193.175.73.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA18913 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 07:38:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from uwp@ukrv.de) Received: by mailhost.charite.de (5.65v4.0/1.1.8.2/08Mar95-0213PM) id AA31092; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:38:20 +0100 Received: from postamt1.charite.de(193.175.70.246) by mailhost.charite.de via smap (V1.3-PCG 08/1998) id sma020281; Thu Nov 12 16:38:02 1998 Received: by postamt1.charite.de; (5.65/1.1.8.2/16Aug95-0231PM) id AA09675; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:38:01 +0100 From: Udo Wolter Message-Id: <9811121538.AA09675@postamt1.charite.de> Subject: Re: ISA-Soundcards will vanish... In-Reply-To: <199811120828.JAA09330@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> from Luigi Rizzo at "Nov 12, 98 09:28:07 am" To: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it (Luigi Rizzo) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:38:01 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > So what to do if I can only get worse soundcards with ISA bus ? I'm making > > music so I need an excellent soundcard for working. But when I'm > > i am not aware of kernel developers with an interest in music (i am not) > so i'd say check OSS. Sorry, I don't want to bulldoze you. You're making an excellent job, but what about future cards ? If there are only PCI-cards in italy would you try to buy an ISA-card on the second hand market ? Bye, Udo -- Udo Wolter, email: uwp@i.am, www: http://i.am/uwp !!!! LOW-TECH Page: http://hello.to/low-tech !!!! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Nov 12 07:52:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA20764 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 07:52:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailhost.charite.de (barrier-17.charite.de [193.175.73.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA20752 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 07:52:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from uwp@ukrv.de) Received: by mailhost.charite.de (5.65v4.0/1.1.8.2/08Mar95-0213PM) id AA11375; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:51:49 +0100 Received: from postamt1.charite.de(193.175.70.246) by mailhost.charite.de via smap (V1.3-PCG 08/1998) id sma011326; Thu Nov 12 16:51:21 1998 Received: by postamt1.charite.de; (5.65/1.1.8.2/16Aug95-0231PM) id AA13122; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:51:21 +0100 From: Udo Wolter Message-Id: <9811121551.AA13122@postamt1.charite.de> Subject: Re: ISA-Soundcards will vanish... In-Reply-To: <364AB844.2781@cs.strath.ac.uk> from Roger Hardiman at "Nov 12, 98 10:28:20 am" To: roger@cs.strath.ac.uk (Roger Hardiman) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:51:21 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > The lack of PCI soundcard support is down to three things. > a) we need a developer with some spare time > b) that developer needs a PCI sound card > c) and they need the data sheets for the chipset. > > Often it is hard to get all three requirements met at the same time. What about the linux world ? If someone of them would write a driver I'd try to port it (ok, if I have such a card). Or is the linux world also without PCI-sound support ? (Hey, this is an offer, I'm offering porting from linux to FreeBSD stuff :-)) > Sometimes companies are reluctant to give out the chipset datasheets. > > But there is hope. > NetBSD does have a driver for a PCI sound card (I forget which now) > OSS does support some PCI soundcards. (I think the Sound Blaster 128) > > FreeBSD is only lacking due to resource problems. How many people are working on such stuff ? > I agree on the need for this development. Thank God, I'm not alone...:-) > Now Sound Blaster have released the SB Live card, I can see the > ISA AWE64's becoming harder to source. > However, there will always be someone making the 'cheap and low quality' > $20 ISA > sound cards for a few years. Are you sure ? We have some discounter here which only sells 1 or 2 ISA-cards but 5 PCI-cards. I think in half a year they won't have any ISA-cards anymore. Bye, Udo -- Udo Wolter, email: uwp@i.am, www: http://i.am/uwp !!!! LOW-TECH Page: http://hello.to/low-tech !!!! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Nov 12 07:54:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA21026 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 07:54:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailhost.charite.de (barrier-17.charite.de [193.175.73.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA21006; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 07:54:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from uwp@ukrv.de) Received: by mailhost.charite.de (5.65v4.0/1.1.8.2/08Mar95-0213PM) id AA21124; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:53:26 +0100 Received: from postamt1.charite.de(193.175.70.246) by mailhost.charite.de via smap (V1.3-PCG 08/1998) id sma004373; Thu Nov 12 16:52:55 1998 Received: by postamt1.charite.de; (5.65/1.1.8.2/16Aug95-0231PM) id AA03739; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:52:55 +0100 From: Udo Wolter Message-Id: <9811121552.AA03739@postamt1.charite.de> Subject: Re: ISA-Soundcards will vanish... In-Reply-To: <199811121403.PAA19220@qix> from Jean-Marc Zucconi at "Nov 12, 98 03:03:30 pm" To: jmz@FreeBSD.ORG (Jean-Marc Zucconi) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:52:55 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Any statements for the future of sound in FreeBSD ? Or will sound in FreeBSD > > die ? What about OSS ? Do they support PCI ? > > I am working on a driver for the SoundTrack 128 PCI. Sounds great. What kind of card is it (brand name, features etc.) ? Thanx, Udo -- Udo Wolter, email: uwp@i.am, www: http://i.am/uwp !!!! LOW-TECH Page: http://hello.to/low-tech !!!! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Nov 12 10:09:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA04257 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 10:09:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA04027 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 10:06:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id RAA09827; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 17:06:58 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199811121606.RAA09827@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: ISA-Soundcards will vanish... To: uwp@ukrv.de (Udo Wolter) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 17:06:58 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <9811121538.AA09675@postamt1.charite.de> from "Udo Wolter" at Nov 12, 98 04:37:42 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > So what to do if I can only get worse soundcards with ISA bus ? I'm making > > > music so I need an excellent soundcard for working. But when I'm > > > > i am not aware of kernel developers with an interest in music (i am not) > > so i'd say check OSS. > > Sorry, I don't want to bulldoze you. You're making an excellent job, but > what about future cards ? If there are only PCI-cards in italy would > you try to buy an ISA-card on the second hand market ? I thought you had a different problem -- i.e. get a better quality audio card and support for music apps (i.e. wavetable etc.) compared to the ISA models. On this i cannot work for lack of time and interest. Now when and if the supported ISA cards will disappear from the market we will have a (different) problem which will definitely interest me more. However, it's the same situation all the time -- no drivers without specs -- i don't have a crystal sphere to guess what a device does looking at it from the outside. cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Nov 12 12:29:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA17938 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:29:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from qix (hibou.obs-besancon.fr [193.52.184.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA17932 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:29:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmz@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jmz@localhost) by qix (8.9.1/8.8.7) id VAA19810; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:30:20 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:30:20 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199811122030.VAA19810@qix> X-Authentication-Warning: qix: jmz set sender to jmz@qix using -f From: Jean-Marc Zucconi To: uwp@ukrv.de CC: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <9811121552.AA03739@postamt1.charite.de> (message from Udo Wolter on Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:52:55 +0100 (MET)) Subject: Re: ISA-Soundcards will vanish... X-Mailer: Emacs Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>>> Udo Wolter writes: >> > Any statements for the future of sound in FreeBSD ? Or will sound in FreeBSD >> > die ? What about OSS ? Do they support PCI ? >> >> I am working on a driver for the SoundTrack 128 PCI. > Sounds great. What kind of card is it (brand name, features etc.) ? Look at the Hoontech web site: http://www.hoontech.com Jean-Marc -- Jean-Marc Zucconi PGP Key: finger jmz@FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Nov 12 13:03:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA21096 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:03:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA21086 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:02:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id UAA10356; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 20:03:27 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199811121903.UAA10356@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: ISA-Soundcards will vanish... To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 20:03:27 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org For the records, there is an experimental 3.0 driver for the Ensoniq1370 written by Joachim Kuebart which i hope to bring in within the next few weeks. I also got a nice YMF724 for which there are no data sheets though -- if i can get them, writing a driver will be relatively simple since i already have the PCI framework in place for this card (again thanks to Joachim). cheers luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Nov 12 14:29:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01621 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 14:29:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat0574.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.190.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01616 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 14:29:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA04024 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 18:28:56 -0400 (AST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 18:28:56 -0400 (AST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: voice recognition... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi... I have a friend that is dyslexic(sp?) and is curious about Unix...under Winblows, he has a voice rec package allowing him to use the computer with little to know problem...does anyone know of any Unix-based voice rec software? I'd *prefer* to get him used to/comfortable with FreeBSD if at all possible, but if the only thing that is available is Linux based, I'd be just as happy...at least I'm getting him off of Winblows... Along that vein, how about any disability software? Thanks... Marc G. Fournier Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Nov 12 15:30:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10645 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:30:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Gatekeeper.Alameda.net (gatekeeper.Alameda.net [207.90.181.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA10640 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:30:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ulf@Gatekeeper.Alameda.net) Received: by Gatekeeper.Alameda.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id PAA08733; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:29:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19981112152951.B7953@Alameda.net> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:29:51 -0800 From: Ulf Zimmermann To: Roger Hardiman , "Daniel O'Connor" Cc: Udo Wolter , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ISA-Soundcards will vanish... Reply-To: ulf@Alameda.net References: <364AB844.2781@cs.strath.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <364AB844.2781@cs.strath.ac.uk>; from Roger Hardiman on Thu, Nov 12, 1998 at 10:28:20AM +0000 Organization: Alameda Networks, Inc. X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Nov 12, 1998 at 10:28:20AM +0000, Roger Hardiman wrote: > Hi all, > > The lack of PCI soundcard support is down to three things. > a) we need a developer with some spare time > b) that developer needs a PCI sound card > c) and they need the data sheets for the chipset. I have an Ensoniq PCI card (label from SIIG). If someone can organize the data sheets I can look at driver development as I put the other driver I was working on to the side, as I need to understand some other stuff before I can continue it. > > Often it is hard to get all three requirements met at the same time. > > Sometimes companies are reluctant to give out the chipset datasheets. > > But there is hope. > NetBSD does have a driver for a PCI sound card (I forget which now) > OSS does support some PCI soundcards. (I think the Sound Blaster 128) CL has now a SB Live! Value out ($99 or less) and I could think about picking one up too. But I have no time in hunting down data sheets as my day time is real full right now. > > FreeBSD is only lacking due to resource problems. > > I agree on the need for this development. > Now Sound Blaster have released the SB Live card, I can see the > ISA AWE64's becoming harder to source. > However, there will always be someone making the 'cheap and low quality' > $20 ISA > sound cards for a few years. > > Bye > Roger > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message -- Regards, Ulf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-769-2936 Alameda Networks, Inc. | http://www.Alameda.net | Fax#: 510-521-5073 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Nov 13 09:27:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04764 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 09:27:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cave.garant.ru (cave.garant.ru [195.209.33.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04740 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 09:26:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from taurus@cave.garant.ru) Received: from localhost (taurus@localhost) by cave.garant.ru (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA00292 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 20:19:39 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from taurus@cave.garant.ru) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 20:19:39 +0300 (MSK) From: "Andrew A. Bely" To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Ensoniq ES1370 driver? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org O-ops! Yesterday Luigi says about experimental driver for Ensoniq 1370... I'm running FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE and I'm very interested in this driver. Please, tell me, where I can find any information about it. Note, that OSS drivers is not so excellent, because of mixer device has volume levels from high to impossible-to-hear. That's why I use Luigi's driver at work, but at home I have Ensoniq-based card. Andrew A. Bely Software developer in Garant-Service, Moscow, Russia. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Nov 14 19:09:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA13636 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 19:09:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pushkar.stepnet.com (pushkar.stepnet.com [206.14.120.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA13630 for ; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 19:09:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ping@stepnet.com) Received: (from ping@localhost) by pushkar.stepnet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA12663 for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Sat, 14 Nov 1998 19:09:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ping) From: Ping Mai Message-Id: <199811150309.TAA12663@pushkar.stepnet.com> Subject: HELP: which video capture card to buy? To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 19:09:16 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am looking for a good video capture card to buy. Some time ago, I heard that the miro DC30+ is the best choice. Is this true now? Someone also mention the Spark+. Is this a better card, or should I consider another card? Thanks in advance, ping To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message