From owner-freebsd-small Sun Dec 13 22:47:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA10836 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 22:47:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.htg.net (mail.htg.net [209.136.26.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA10829 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 22:47:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from diablo@intelexis.com) Received: from diablo ([209.136.32.100]) by mail.htg.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA28824 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 23:41:43 -0700 (MST) From: "Carlos Madrigal" To: Subject: Where can I find the source code for PicoBSD??? Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 23:36:22 -0600 Message-ID: <01be2723$af5d0480$0100a8c0@diablo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE26F1.64C29480" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE26F1.64C29480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ******************************************** Carlos Madrigal mailto:madwaro@comports.com http://comports.com/madwaro ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE26F1.64C29480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE26F1.64C29480-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Dec 14 11:55:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02828 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 11:55:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from postoffice.aeonflux.net (postoffice.aeonflux.net [208.139.254.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02816 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 11:55:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hg@ParView.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by postoffice.aeonflux.net (8.8.8/8.8.7/PCS9711a) with UUCP id OAA18842; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 14:55:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hg@localhost) by ParView.com (8.9.1/8.8.8/n2wx) id OAA00611; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 14:55:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from hg) From: Howard Goldstein MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13941.27927.667854.236558@slice.parview.com> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 14:55:03 -0500 (EST) To: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: MAKEDEV call in mfs.tree vs. "sliced" devices X-Mailer: VM 6.56 under Emacs 19.34.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Reporting good news on picobsd 0.42 and Poul-Henning Kamp's m-systems DOC2K flash driver (fla device) announced a week ago. I've gotten everything working through newfsing and FFS on the thing; still have to get it booting... In the process I've encountered a glitch in /dev/MAKEDEV through its use in this snippet from $TYPE/mfs.tree/Makefile: (cd ${DESTDIR}/dev; \ /dev/MAKEDEV std sysmouse tun2 cuaa0 cuaa1 cuaa2 vty10 fd0 pty0; \ /dev/MAKEDEV psm0; \ /dev/MAKEDEV [now make some sliceable devices like fla0] If the devices made are sliceable devices, MAKEDEV's recursive call to itself to build the slices fails since MAKEDEV calls itself as 'sh MAKEDEV' where it needs to be 'sh /dev/MAKEDEV'. The fix is obvious but here's the patch (which may be overkill) anyway. Thanks for your help phk! *** /dev/MAKEDEV.orig Mon Dec 14 14:44:28 1998 --- /dev/MAKEDEV Mon Dec 14 14:44:54 1998 *************** *** 192,219 **** case $i in all) ! sh MAKEDEV std # standard ! sh MAKEDEV fd0 fd1 # bdev, floppy disk ! sh MAKEDEV da0 da1 da2 da3 wd0 wd1 wd2 wd3 # bdev, ordinary disk ! sh MAKEDEV od0 # bdev, optical disk ! sh MAKEDEV wfd0 # bdev, LS-120 floppy ! sh MAKEDEV vn0 # bdev, virtual disk ! sh MAKEDEV cd0 matcd0 mcd0 scd0 wcd0 # bdev, cdrom ! sh MAKEDEV ft0 sa0 wt0 wst0 # bdev, tape ! sh MAKEDEV vty4 # cdev, virtual tty ! sh MAKEDEV cuaa0 cuaa1 cuaa2 cuaa3 # cdev, serial tty ! sh MAKEDEV pty0 # cdev, pseudo tty ! sh MAKEDEV ttyd0 ttyd1 ttyd2 ttyd3 # cdev, serial tty ! sh MAKEDEV mse0 psm0 sysmouse # cdev, mouse ! sh MAKEDEV pcaudio speaker # cdev, noise ! sh MAKEDEV lpt0 lpt1 lpt2 # cdev, printer ! sh MAKEDEV ppi0 ppi1 ppi2 # cdev, parallel port ! sh MAKEDEV iic0 iic1 # cdev, I2C device ! sh MAKEDEV smb0 smb1 # cdev, SMBus device ! sh MAKEDEV bpf0 ipl tun0 # cdev, network ! sh MAKEDEV ch0 perfmon tw0 # cdev, miscellaneous ! sh MAKEDEV apm card0 card1 # cdev, laptop ! sh MAKEDEV pass4 xpt2 # cdev, CAM ;; std) mknod console c 0 0; chmod 600 console --- 192,219 ---- case $i in all) ! sh /dev/MAKEDEV std # standard ! sh /dev/MAKEDEV fd0 fd1 # bdev, floppy disk ! sh /dev/MAKEDEV da0 da1 da2 da3 wd0 wd1 wd2 wd3 # bdev, ordinary disk ! sh /dev/MAKEDEV od0 # bdev, optical disk ! sh /dev/MAKEDEV wfd0 # bdev, LS-120 floppy ! sh /dev/MAKEDEV vn0 # bdev, virtual disk ! sh /dev/MAKEDEV cd0 matcd0 mcd0 scd0 wcd0 # bdev, cdrom ! sh /dev/MAKEDEV ft0 sa0 wt0 wst0 # bdev, tape ! sh /dev/MAKEDEV vty4 # cdev, virtual tty ! sh /dev/MAKEDEV cuaa0 cuaa1 cuaa2 cuaa3 # cdev, serial tty ! sh /dev/MAKEDEV pty0 # cdev, pseudo tty ! sh /dev/MAKEDEV ttyd0 ttyd1 ttyd2 ttyd3 # cdev, serial tty ! sh /dev/MAKEDEV mse0 psm0 sysmouse # cdev, mouse ! sh /dev/MAKEDEV pcaudio speaker # cdev, noise ! sh /dev/MAKEDEV lpt0 lpt1 lpt2 # cdev, printer ! sh /dev/MAKEDEV ppi0 ppi1 ppi2 # cdev, parallel port ! sh /dev/MAKEDEV iic0 iic1 # cdev, I2C device ! sh /dev/MAKEDEV smb0 smb1 # cdev, SMBus device ! sh /dev/MAKEDEV bpf0 ipl tun0 # cdev, network ! sh /dev/MAKEDEV ch0 perfmon tw0 # cdev, miscellaneous ! sh /dev/MAKEDEV apm card0 card1 # cdev, laptop ! sh /dev/MAKEDEV pass4 xpt2 # cdev, CAM ;; std) mknod console c 0 0; chmod 600 console *************** *** 467,473 **** [0-9]|[0-9][0-9]|[0-4][0-9][0-9]|50[0-9]|51[0-1]) for slicepartname in s0h s1 s2 s3 s4 do ! sh MAKEDEV $name$unit$slicepartname done ;; *) --- 467,473 ---- [0-9]|[0-9][0-9]|[0-4][0-9][0-9]|50[0-9]|51[0-1]) for slicepartname in s0h s1 s2 s3 s4 do ! sh /dev/MAKEDEV $name$unit$slicepartname done ;; *) *************** *** 1266,1272 **** local) umask 0 # XXX should be elsewhere ! sh MAKEDEV.local umask 77 ;; --- 1266,1272 ---- local) umask 0 # XXX should be elsewhere ! sh /dev/MAKEDEV.local umask 77 ;; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Dec 14 12:04:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA04360 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:04:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04344 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:04:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA06076; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 21:03:16 +0100 (CET) To: Howard Goldstein cc: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MAKEDEV call in mfs.tree vs. "sliced" devices In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 14 Dec 1998 14:55:03 EST." <13941.27927.667854.236558@slice.parview.com> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 21:03:16 +0100 Message-ID: <6074.913665796@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG (regarding use of "sh MAKEDEV" in the MAKEDEV script.) shouldn't we be able to do a sh $0 mumble mumble mumble ? instead ? That would maintain POLA(*). Poul-Henning (*) Principle Of Least Astonishment -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." "ttyv0" -- What UNIX calls a $20K state-of-the-art, 3D, hi-res color terminal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Dec 14 12:29:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA07572 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:29:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA07563; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:29:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA06202; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 21:29:03 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 21:29:03 +0100 Message-ID: <6200.913667343.1@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: testers wanted: E1 / Nx64 interface card for FreeBSD. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----- =_aaaaaaaaaa" Content-Description: Blind Carbon Copy Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To: undisclosed-recipients:; ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Description: Original Message Subject: testers wanted: E1 / Nx64 interface card for FreeBSD. From: Poul-Henning Kamp Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 21:29:03 +0100 Message-ID: <6200.913667343@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: phk@critter.freebsd.dk Bcc: Blind Distribution List: ; I am working on a driver for a E1/Nx64 interface card for FreeBSD. The card is PCI bus-mastering, can do 31 HDLC channels, and has a balanced E1 interface (G.703 120 Ohm). A T1 version is possible if there is sufficient interest (send me email!). The driver exists and performs well, but the framework in the FreeBSD kernel needs much more work before support for this kind of stuff can be called "serious". To further this cause, I am offering the card and driver (binary) for USD1100 (or DKR7000) to any interested and qualified testers. The majority of the profit from this sale will go into improving the FreeBSD kernels support for serial line routing use, a minor part of the profit will go into making sure my family don't starve in the meantime. The card is currently NOT approved for connection to any networks anywhere, so use it only where you are allowed to (by applicable rules and/or morals). If there is sufficient interest, I will also be interested in finding a company who can produce and possibly market these cards for me. I don't really want to be in the hardware business if I can avoid it. Send me email if you are interested in any of this. Poul-Henning -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." "ttyv0" -- What UNIX calls a $20K state-of-the-art, 3D, hi-res color terminal ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Dec 14 14:10:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20079 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 14:10:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from postoffice.aeonflux.net (postoffice.aeonflux.net [208.139.254.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20072 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 14:10:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hg@ParView.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by postoffice.aeonflux.net (8.8.8/8.8.7/PCS9711a) with UUCP id RAA20302; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 17:06:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hg@localhost) by ParView.com (8.9.1/8.8.8/n2wx) id RAA01209; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 17:05:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from hg) From: Howard Goldstein MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13941.35760.435577.296853@slice.parview.com> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 17:05:36 -0500 (EST) To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: Howard Goldstein , freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MAKEDEV call in mfs.tree vs. "sliced" devices In-Reply-To: <6074.913665796@critter.freebsd.dk> References: <13941.27927.667854.236558@slice.parview.com> <6074.913665796@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Mailer: VM 6.56 under Emacs 19.34.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Poul-Henning Kamp writes: > > (regarding use of "sh MAKEDEV" in the MAKEDEV script.) > > shouldn't we be able to do a > > sh $0 mumble mumble mumble ? > > instead ? That would maintain POLA(*). Yes, this would be far preferable to YMHCS (yet more hard coded stuff) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Dec 14 18:17:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA22275 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 18:17:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from omahpop1.omah.uswest.net (omahpop1.omah.uswest.net [204.26.64.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA22267 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 18:17:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from opsys@open-systems.net) Received: (qmail 22902 invoked by alias); 15 Dec 1998 02:17:37 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-freebsd-small@freebsd.org@fixme Received: (qmail 22888 invoked by uid 0); 15 Dec 1998 02:17:36 -0000 Received: from dialupc94.ne.uswest.net (HELO pinkfloyd.open-systems.net) (209.180.97.94) by omahpop1.omah.uswest.net with SMTP; 15 Dec 1998 02:17:36 -0000 Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 20:17:36 -0600 (CST) From: "Open Systems Inc." To: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Looking for a good place or places for complete kits for embedded solutions. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anyone have some good places other than the ones listed on the picobsd page of complete kits for embedded products. Like displays and cases etc.. Thanks Chris -- "Join Team-FreeBSD on cracking RC5-64! grab you client now and HELP OUT! http://www.distributed.net/cgi/select.cgi" ===================================| Open Systems FreeBSD Consulting. FreeBSD 2.2.8 is available now! | Phone: 402-573-9124 -----------------------------------| 3335 N. 103 Plaza #14, Omaha, NE 68134 FreeBSD: The power to serve! | E-Mail: opsys@open-systems.net http://www.freebsd.org | Consulting, Network Engineering, Security ===================================| http://open-systems.net -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQENAzPemUsAAAEH/06iF0BU8pMtdLJrxp/lLk3vg9QJCHajsd25gYtR8X1Px1Te gWU0C4EwMh4seDIgK9bzFmjjlZOEgS9zEgia28xDgeluQjuuMyUFJ58MzRlC2ONC foYIZsFyIqdjEOCBdfhH5bmgB5/+L5bjDK6lNdqD8OAhtC4Xnc1UxAKq3oUgVD/Z d5UJXU2xm+f08WwGZIUcbGcaonRC/6Z/5o8YpLVBpcFeLtKW5WwGhEMxl9WDZ3Kb NZH6bx15WiB2Q/gZQib3ZXhe1xEgRP+p6BnvF364I/To9kMduHpJKU97PH3dU7Mv CXk2NG3rtOgLTEwLyvtBPqLnbx35E0JnZc0k5YkABRO0JU9wZW4gU3lzdGVtcyA8 b3BzeXNAb3Blbi1zeXN0ZW1zLm5ldD4= =BBjp -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Tue Dec 15 02:32:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA11027 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 02:32:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from voyager.planb.com.au (voyager.planb.com.au [203.35.172.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA10993 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 02:32:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kevin@planb.net.au) Received: from fossil.planb.com.au (fossil.planb.com.au [203.35.172.145]) by voyager.planb.com.au (8.8.7/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA20224; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 21:31:54 +1100 (EST) Received: by fossil.planb.com.au with Microsoft Mail id <01BE286A.0E638480@fossil.planb.com.au>; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 20:32:38 +1100 Message-ID: <01BE286A.0E638480@fossil.planb.com.au> From: Kevin Sheehan To: "freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG" , "'Open Systems Inc.'" Subject: RE: Looking for a good place or places for complete kits for embedded solutions. Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 20:32:37 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Chris asks: >Anyone have some good places other than the ones listed on the picobsd >page of complete kits for embedded products. Like displays and cases etc.. Grab a copy of 'Circuit Cellar INK', or visit their site www.circuitcellar.com. Great source of info and plenty of adds for suppliers etc. Rgs. ---------- From: Open Systems Inc. Sent: Tuesday, 15 December 1998 13:17 To: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Looking for a good place or places for complete kits for embedded solutions. Anyone have some good places other than the ones listed on the picobsd page of complete kits for embedded products. Like displays and cases etc.. Thanks Chris -- "Join Team-FreeBSD on cracking RC5-64! grab you client now and HELP OUT! http://www.distributed.net/cgi/select.cgi" ===================================| Open Systems FreeBSD Consulting. FreeBSD 2.2.8 is available now! | Phone: 402-573-9124 -----------------------------------| 3335 N. 103 Plaza #14, Omaha, NE 68134 FreeBSD: The power to serve! | E-Mail: opsys@open-systems.net http://www.freebsd.org | Consulting, Network Engineering, Security ===================================| http://open-systems.net -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQENAzPemUsAAAEH/06iF0BU8pMtdLJrxp/lLk3vg9QJCHajsd25gYtR8X1Px1Te gWU0C4EwMh4seDIgK9bzFmjjlZOEgS9zEgia28xDgeluQjuuMyUFJ58MzRlC2ONC foYIZsFyIqdjEOCBdfhH5bmgB5/+L5bjDK6lNdqD8OAhtC4Xnc1UxAKq3oUgVD/Z d5UJXU2xm+f08WwGZIUcbGcaonRC/6Z/5o8YpLVBpcFeLtKW5WwGhEMxl9WDZ3Kb NZH6bx15WiB2Q/gZQib3ZXhe1xEgRP+p6BnvF364I/To9kMduHpJKU97PH3dU7Mv CXk2NG3rtOgLTEwLyvtBPqLnbx35E0JnZc0k5YkABRO0JU9wZW4gU3lzdGVtcyA8 b3BzeXNAb3Blbi1zeXN0ZW1zLm5ldD4= =BBjp -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Tue Dec 15 09:51:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA27054 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 09:51:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from postoffice.aeonflux.net (postoffice.aeonflux.net [208.139.254.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA27048 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 09:51:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hg@ParView.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by postoffice.aeonflux.net (8.8.8/8.8.7/PCS9711a) with UUCP id MAA00456 for freebsd-small@freebsd.org; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 12:51:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hg@localhost) by ParView.com (8.9.1/8.8.8/n2wx) id MAA00651; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 12:50:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from hg) From: Howard Goldstein MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13942.41325.353477.236495@slice.parview.com> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 12:50:37 -0500 (EST) To: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: svga and pico X-Mailer: VM 6.56 under Emacs 19.34.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, I've sold freebsd as the platform so now I have to make it work :-) Anyone have thoughts on doing 640x480x256 without running X? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Tue Dec 15 11:37:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13944 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 11:37:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13825 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 11:37:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from chronias.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.57.87]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAAF49; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 20:21:46 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <01BE286A.0E638480@fossil.planb.com.au> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 20:27:46 +0100 (CET) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Kevin Sheehan Subject: RE: Looking for a good place or places for complete kits for emb Cc: "Open Systems Inc." , "Open Systems Inc." , "freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG" Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 15-Dec-98 Kevin Sheehan wrote: > Chris asks: > >>Anyone have some good places other than the ones listed on the picobsd >>page of complete kits for embedded products. Like displays and cases etc.. > > > Grab a copy of 'Circuit Cellar INK', or visit their site > www.circuitcellar.com. www.embedded.org or www.embedded.com that's bound to generate hits ;) --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Pax vobiscum... asmodai(at)wxs.nl Network/Security Specialist BSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Tue Dec 15 12:55:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA23729 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 12:55:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA23724 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 12:55:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from chronias.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.57.87]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA2172; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 20:03:22 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <01be2723$af5d0480$0100a8c0@diablo> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 20:09:20 +0100 (CET) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Carlos Madrigal Subject: RE: Where can I find the source code for PicoBSD??? Cc: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG try the /usr/src of a 3.0 system or a cvsupped system... it's under release somewhere... more specific: /usr/src/releases/picobsd --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Pax vobiscum... asmodai(at)wxs.nl Network/Security Specialist BSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Tue Dec 15 13:20:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26805 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 13:20:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [195.187.243.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26773; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 13:20:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abial@nask.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA12719; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 22:26:00 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: korin.warman.org.pl: abial owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 22:26:00 +0100 (CET) From: Andrzej Bialecki X-Sender: abial@korin.warman.org.pl To: Howard Goldstein cc: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: svga and pico In-Reply-To: <13942.41325.353477.236495@slice.parview.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 15 Dec 1998, Howard Goldstein wrote: > Well, I've sold freebsd as the platform so now I have to make it work :-) > > Anyone have thoughts on doing 640x480x256 without running X? Sure. There are two steps for it: * Compile in (or kldload) the VESA module. You need VM86 as well to make it work. * Bug Soren Schmidt to provide patches for libvgl to handle VESA modes (ca. 2 months ago he said they are almost ready... ;-) Andrzej Bialecki -------------------- ++-------++ ------------------------------------- ||PicoBSD|| FreeBSD in your pocket? Go and see: Research & Academic |+-------+| "Small & Embedded FreeBSD" Network in Poland | |TT~~~| | http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ -------------------- ~-+==---+-+ ------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Tue Dec 15 13:21:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26899 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 13:21:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [195.187.243.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26823 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 13:21:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abial@nask.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA11525; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 22:22:25 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: korin.warman.org.pl: abial owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 22:22:25 +0100 (CET) From: Andrzej Bialecki X-Sender: abial@korin.warman.org.pl To: Howard Goldstein cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MAKEDEV call in mfs.tree vs. "sliced" devices In-Reply-To: <13941.35760.435577.296853@slice.parview.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 14 Dec 1998, Howard Goldstein wrote: > Poul-Henning Kamp writes: > > > > (regarding use of "sh MAKEDEV" in the MAKEDEV script.) > > > > shouldn't we be able to do a > > > > sh $0 mumble mumble mumble ? > > > > instead ? That would maintain POLA(*). > > Yes, this would be far preferable to YMHCS > > (yet more hard coded stuff) Well, I think I'll restore previous way of doing this for PicoBSD, i.e: (cp /dev/MAKEDEV ${DESTDIR}/dev/; \ cd ${DESTDIR}/dev; ./MAKEDEV whatever ... ;\ rm ./MAKEDEV) MAKEDEV as a shell script should die, IMVHO. It's not so hard to write a small C program to make device nodes basing on majors/minors data file and command line parameters. As it is now, it requires awk, sed, expr, mknod, chown, chgrp, echo, ln, rm, and whatnot, and is greatly inconsistent in its ways (e.g. different naming of parameters vs. actual device names, some devices are always made in /dev, etc, etc...). Andrzej Bialecki -------------------- ++-------++ ------------------------------------- ||PicoBSD|| FreeBSD in your pocket? Go and see: Research & Academic |+-------+| "Small & Embedded FreeBSD" Network in Poland | |TT~~~| | http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ -------------------- ~-+==---+-+ ------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Tue Dec 15 19:24:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA12395 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 19:24:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from h24-64-221-247.gv.wave.shaw.ca (h24-64-221-247.gv.wave.shaw.ca [24.64.221.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA12387 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 19:24:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jake@h24-64-221-247.gv.wave.shaw.ca) Received: from h24-64-221-247.gv.wave.shaw.ca (jake@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by h24-64-221-247.gv.wave.shaw.ca (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA23054 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 19:24:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jake@h24-64-221-247.gv.wave.shaw.ca) Message-Id: <199812160324.TAA23054@h24-64-221-247.gv.wave.shaw.ca> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: picobsd and pam Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 19:24:31 -0800 From: Jake Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm trying to build the "isp" picobsd disk, and it keeps dying when it tries to build the crunched binary. cc -O -pipe -DCRUNCHED_BINARY -DNOSECURE -DNOCRYPT -c crunch1.c cc -static -o crunch1 crunch1.o ash.lo test.lo echo.lo hostname.lo ln.lo getty.l o login.lo inetd.lo telnetd.lo stty.lo w.lo msg.lo kget.lo natd.lo init.lo fsck. lo ifconfig.lo df.lo ps.lo ns.lo vm.lo cat.lo cp.lo rm.lo mkdir.lo ls.lo chmod.l o chown.lo sysctl.lo route.lo pwd_mkdb.lo dev_mkdb.lo mount.lo umount.lo comcont rol.lo kill.lo mount_std.lo pwd.lo telnet.lo more.lo date.lo passwd.lo ping.lo t raceroute.lo routed.lo ipfw.lo dhcpc.lo simple_httpd.lo -ledit -lutil -lmd -lcry pt -lrpcsvc -lmp -lgmp -lm -lkvm -lmytinfo -lipx -lz -lpcap -lalias -ltermcap -l gnuregex -ltelnet -lcurses login.lo: In function `auth_pam': login.lo(.text+0xef8): undefined reference to `pam_start' login.lo(.text+0xf0a): undefined reference to `pam_strerror' login.lo(.text+0xf24): undefined reference to `pam_set_item' login.lo(.text+0xf36): undefined reference to `pam_strerror' login.lo(.text+0xf58): undefined reference to `pam_set_item' login.lo(.text+0xf6a): undefined reference to `pam_strerror' login.lo(.text+0xf8e): undefined reference to `pam_authenticate' login.lo(.text+0xfba): undefined reference to `pam_get_item' login.lo(.text+0xff5): undefined reference to `pam_strerror' login.lo(.text+0x101d): undefined reference to `pam_strerror' login.lo(.text+0x103b): undefined reference to `pam_end' login.lo(.text+0x104d): undefined reference to `pam_strerror' login.lo(.data+0x98): undefined reference to `misc_conv' *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. I tried adding -lpam to the libs section of crunch.conf: /usr/libexec/elf/ld: cannot open -lpam: No such file or directory It builds fine if I remove login from the progs section in crunch.conf, but that doesn't help much. My system is current as of yesterday, and I have /usr/lib/libpam.so but there is no libpam.a. All the other libraries included have libfoo.so and libfoo.a. After reading some makefiles I decided I needed a static libpam, but I haven't been able to build one. Does anyone have a working picobsd setup with the current login? I don't need pam, I just want a working login program. Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Tue Dec 15 23:42:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA05740 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 23:42:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ikar.elect.ru ([195.161.50.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA05735; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 23:42:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pavel@ikar.elect.ru) Received: from localhost (pavel@localhost) by ikar.elect.ru (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA10029; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 10:21:08 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from pavel@ikar.elect.ru) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 10:20:28 +0300 (MSK) From: "Pavel V. Antipov" To: PicoBSD , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Help me, please ! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi ! I trying to maintain my own VERY SMALL version of FreeBSD (2.2.6 now). I have some questions: 1. How can I include into the kernel the structure of file system ? 2. How can I mount there file system to the virtual memory ? 3. What does it mean : "Uncompressing kernel ..." at bott time ? 4. How can I compress/decompress kernel ? May be I asked stupid questions. Please, sorry ! I very need the answers of above questions. Your's sincerly Pavel Antipov E-mail:pavel@ikar.elect.ru P.S Now I have the my system on the floppy. But disk space for my programs WANTED ;) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Dec 16 06:06:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA17730 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 06:06:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from postoffice.aeonflux.net (postoffice.aeonflux.net [208.139.254.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA17725 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 06:06:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hg@ParView.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by postoffice.aeonflux.net (8.8.8/8.8.7/PCS9711a) with UUCP id JAA11718; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 09:05:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hg@localhost) by ParView.com (8.9.1/8.8.8/n2wx) id JAA03323; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 09:03:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from hg) From: Howard Goldstein MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13943.48558.907399.183707@slice.parview.com> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 09:03:26 -0500 (EST) To: Andrzej Bialecki Cc: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: svga and pico In-Reply-To: References: <13942.41325.353477.236495@slice.parview.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.56 under Emacs 19.34.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andrzej Bialecki writes: > On Tue, 15 Dec 1998, Howard Goldstein wrote: > > > Well, I've sold freebsd as the platform so now I have to make it work :-) > > > > Anyone have thoughts on doing 640x480x256 without running X? > > Sure. There are two steps for it: > > * Compile in (or kldload) the VESA module. You need VM86 as well to make > it work. I'm going to try this just to get me going > > * Bug Soren Schmidt to provide patches for libvgl to handle VESA modes > (ca. 2 months ago he said they are almost ready... ;-) Bad news on this: Soren wrote the patches worked but disappeared when his machine was stolen a few months ago :-( To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Dec 17 22:42:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA27156 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 22:42:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ikar.elect.ru ([195.161.50.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA27141; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 22:42:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pavel@ikar.elect.ru) Received: from localhost (pavel@localhost) by ikar.elect.ru (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA21187; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 09:41:40 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from pavel@ikar.elect.ru) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 09:41:38 +0300 (MSK) From: "Pavel V. Antipov" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Driver for SMC91C94 wanted !!! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi ! I tring to adjust PicoBSD for using with OCTAGON computer. This computer has SMC91C94 netcard. Please tell me what driver will work properly with this card ? Thank you. Your's sincerly Pavel E-mail:pavel@ikar.elect.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Fri Dec 18 08:21:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26328 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 08:21:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vicosys.com.hk ([202.181.234.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA26322 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 08:21:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kachan@vicosys.com.hk) Received: from vicosys.com.hk ([202.181.234.232]) by vicosys.com.hk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA04555 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 00:20:28 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from kachan@vicosys.com.hk) Message-ID: <367A80FB.6C26EE35@vicosys.com.hk> Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 00:21:15 +0800 From: Terence Chan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: zh-TW,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Fri Dec 18 10:38:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA11344 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 10:38:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pixar.com (pixar.pixar.com [138.72.10.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA11334 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 10:38:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from markv@pixar.com) Received: from omnipotus.pixar.com (omnipotus.pixar.com [138.72.40.61]) by pixar.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id KAA00782 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 10:37:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by omnipotus.pixar.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0zr4mf-00I0kHC; Fri, 18 Dec 98 10:37 PST From: "Mark VandeWettering" Message-Id: <9812181037.ZM5144@omnipotus> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 10:37:53 -0800 Reply-To: markv@pixar.com X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.3 08feb96 MediaMail) To: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: It's probably staring me in the face.... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Okay, it's probably staring me in the face, but I am trying to build my own custom version of the PicoBSD release. I basically cloned the "dial" layout, modified the list of programs in the crunch.conf file, and attempted to rebuild. After a few minor problems (the build scripts have some odd dependencies which say if $(TYPE) != dial which I needed to modify) I got something that will boot, load the rc files from /etc and present me with a login prompt. The problem: when I attempt to login, it fails saying that it cannot find /usr/bin/login. Now, for the life of me, I can't figure out where the dial build installs this and mine doesn't. I apologize for my near certain abject stupidity. I am under the impression that it must be built as part of the crunch1 build, but am somewhat baffled. Suggestions anyone? Mark -- Mark T. VandeWettering Telescope Information (and more) Email: http://www.idle.com/~markv/ No Code International Member #1173 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Fri Dec 18 12:10:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA23682 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 12:10:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [195.187.243.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA23657 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 12:10:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abial@nask.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA22074; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 21:16:23 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: korin.warman.org.pl: abial owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 21:16:23 +0100 (CET) From: Andrzej Bialecki X-Sender: abial@korin.warman.org.pl To: Mark VandeWettering cc: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: It's probably staring me in the face.... In-Reply-To: <9812181037.ZM5144@omnipotus> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 18 Dec 1998, Mark VandeWettering wrote: > The problem: when I attempt to login, it fails saying that it cannot > find /usr/bin/login. Now, for the life of me, I can't figure out where > the dial build installs this and mine doesn't. I apologize for my near > certain abject stupidity. I am under the impression that it must be built > as part of the crunch1 build, but am somewhat baffled. > > Suggestions anyone? Erhm.. Yeah, that's perhaps not so obvious thing... You see, the "dial" version doesn't use /usr/bin/login at all, because I wanted to minimize overhead of running getty, /etc/[s]pwd.db et al.. so in this case a small scriptie is installed from dial/lang/ directory. The problem is that this is automatically installed by yet another ${TYPE}=dial bogosity, and since you're building "custom", then, well... it gets skipped. Sorry for this - the version I'm working on will try to minimize such surprises - it's (hopefully) much cleaner in its ways. Andrzej Bialecki -------------------- ++-------++ ------------------------------------- ||PicoBSD|| FreeBSD in your pocket? Go and see: Research & Academic |+-------+| "Small & Embedded FreeBSD" Network in Poland | |TT~~~| | http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ -------------------- ~-+==---+-+ ------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Sat Dec 19 03:08:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA25540 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 03:08:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA25516 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 03:07:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from chronias.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.56.86]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA6023 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 12:07:13 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 12:13:31 +0100 (CET) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: picoBSD Subject: Trinux Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi guys, http://www.trinux.org Looks interesting, bet we could best that ;) --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Pax vobiscum... asmodai(at)wxs.nl Network/Security Specialist BSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Sat Dec 19 07:35:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA18358 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 07:35:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [195.187.243.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA18352; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 07:35:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abial@nask.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA06813; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 16:42:09 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: korin.warman.org.pl: abial owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 16:42:08 +0100 (CET) From: Andrzej Bialecki X-Sender: abial@korin.warman.org.pl To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai cc: picoBSD , jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Trinux (+ a proposal) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 19 Dec 1998, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > Hi guys, > > http://www.trinux.org > > Looks interesting, bet we could best that ;) Yes this is very nice set of tools. I'm sure it took a lot of work to prepare it. Whether we can beat that - well, this would require radically different approach to our currently used model of crunched binaries. It's clever, but too limiting. Recently I was thinking about it and I'm inclined to change this into something more flexible, something along packages system. My idea is to have initially on startup a small (ca. 300-400kB) MFS containing init and a package handling program. Then, the init would run the packager, and this in turn would examine the list of wanted packages, together with their space requirements. Then it would either create appropriate MFS, mount it let's say on /usr/, and unpack all required packages into this MFS; or, in case of bigger systems with HDD, just make sure the required packages are present, and if not - perhaps install them from some media (like HDD or network, or floppy). Advantages of this model: * you're no longer required to have sources for all programs - you need only to have a small binary package. * you can install only those programs you really want to have on the floppy. * the floppy can be DOS formatted, which allows you to squeeze more things on it, and it's easier editable. * you can easily add/remove components from the system. * it's significantly easier to build bigger systems this way. ("bigger" means something between picobsd and normal FreeBSD installation) Disadvantages: * all programs will have to be dynamically linked, and ld.so and a set of libraries must be provided as well. This significantly raises memory/space requirements. * we would need some other (probably incompatible with 'normal' packages) packaging system. Why? Because it has to contain not only dependencies on other packages, but also on system libraries (which 'normal' package system takes for granted), and it should contain space requirements as well. OTOH, perhaps this can be done using 'normal' packaging - I'm not sure. Any comments? Andrzej Bialecki -------------------- ++-------++ ------------------------------------- ||PicoBSD|| FreeBSD in your pocket? Go and see: Research & Academic |+-------+| "Small & Embedded FreeBSD" Network in Poland | |TT~~~| | http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ -------------------- ~-+==---+-+ ------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Sat Dec 19 12:03:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA11786 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 12:03:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA11781 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 12:03:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gpiainc@erols.com) Received: from gpiainc (207-172-194-217.s26.as3.grn.erols.com [207.172.194.217]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA27725 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 15:03:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000701be2b20$41bce980$d9c2accf@gpiainc> From: "gpiainc" To: Subject: please add me to the mailing list my email is keter@mailcity.com Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 02:21:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE2AF6.57B8C1C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE2AF6.57B8C1C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE2AF6.57B8C1C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE2AF6.57B8C1C0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Sat Dec 19 12:39:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15202 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 12:39:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nm75b.das.honeywell.com (nm75b.das.honeywell.com [207.199.90.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA15194 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 12:39:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dave.taliaferro@das.honeywell.com) Received: from nm75nt50.dasd.honeywell.com by nm75b.das.honeywell.com via smtpd (for hub.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.18]) with SMTP; 19 Dec 1998 20:39:19 UT Received: (private information removed) Message-ID: <419F1A81253BD211A75D0000F8EF7FDF1B78CB@nm75nt50.dasd.honeywell.com> From: "Taliaferro, Dave (NM75)" To: "'freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: a Forth-OpenGL binding Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 13:40:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, This may seem a little off topic, but I recently posted a Forth-OpenGL binding to : www.unm.edu/~dtaliafe This space will expire soon so I'll have to find another home; email me at : dtaliafe@nm.net if you can't access it. Why I am I posting this here? Given necessary display drivers, Forth-OpenGL could be used to provide graphic scripting functionality in an embedded environment, at a low memory cost. - Dave T. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Sat Dec 19 13:46:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA22154 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 13:46:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [195.187.243.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA22149 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 13:46:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abial@nask.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA02257; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 22:52:39 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: korin.warman.org.pl: abial owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 22:52:39 +0100 (CET) From: Andrzej Bialecki X-Sender: abial@korin.warman.org.pl To: "Taliaferro, Dave (NM75)" cc: "'freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: Re: a Forth-OpenGL binding In-Reply-To: <419F1A81253BD211A75D0000F8EF7FDF1B78CB@nm75nt50.dasd.honeywell.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 19 Dec 1998, Taliaferro, Dave (NM75) wrote: > Why I am I posting this here? > > Given necessary display drivers, Forth-OpenGL could be used to provide > graphic scripting functionality in an embedded environment, at a low memory > cost. This sounds interesting. I think it wouldn't require that much work to glue this with our libvgl, especially now that we can use VESA modes. Well, in fact it wouldn't be extremely difficult to add this capability to our bootloader.. :-)) This would be a killer app! Just imagine having bootloader with OpenGL :)) Andrzej Bialecki -------------------- ++-------++ ------------------------------------- ||PicoBSD|| FreeBSD in your pocket? Go and see: Research & Academic |+-------+| "Small & Embedded FreeBSD" Network in Poland | |TT~~~| | http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ -------------------- ~-+==---+-+ ------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Sat Dec 19 13:47:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA22443 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 13:47:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from korin.warman.org.pl (korin.nask.waw.pl [195.187.243.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA22431 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 13:47:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from abial@nask.pl) Received: from localhost (abial@localhost) by korin.warman.org.pl (8.9.1/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA02763 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 22:54:10 +0100 (CET) X-Authentication-Warning: korin.warman.org.pl: abial owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1998 22:54:10 +0100 (CET) From: Andrzej Bialecki X-Sender: abial@korin.warman.org.pl To: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: BootFORTH demo floppy. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Some people asked me to prepare a demo floppy for the new, 3-stage bootloader that comes with FreeBSD. Without too much exagerration you could call it a Forth equipped OS. Some of its features include: * runs in protected mode * is able to call BIOS services * read-only support for *BSD UFS, ISO9660 and DOS filesystems, as well as virtual filesystems: zipfs (working), tftpfs, nfs (under development) * Forth compiler/interpreter (based on FICL) * ability to load/unload/execute a.out and ELF kernels and kernel modules * ability to scan system buses and devices * support for normal as well as serial console So, here's an early Christmas gift for you: http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/bootldr.bin This is a floppy image which you should dd onto the floppy, and boot from it. The kernel provided on the floppy is standard PicoBSD "dial" version, so it's not only a demo - you can do some real things with it as well. Andrzej Bialecki -------------------- ++-------++ ------------------------------------- ||PicoBSD|| FreeBSD in your pocket? Go and see: Research & Academic |+-------+| "Small & Embedded FreeBSD" Network in Poland | |TT~~~| | http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ -------------------- ~-+==---+-+ ------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Sat Dec 19 16:27:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA10051 for freebsd-small-outgoing; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 16:27:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gw.caamora.com.au (jonath5.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.41.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10031 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 1998 16:27:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jon@gw.caamora.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by gw.caamora.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA06348; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 11:37:22 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Message-ID: <19981220113721.A6333@caamora.com.au> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 11:37:21 +1100 From: jonathan michaels To: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: turnkey freebsd diskette Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD gw.caamora.com.au 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 X-Mood: i'm alive, if it counts Organisation: Caamora, PO Box 144, Rosebery NSW 1445 Australia Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG all, i suppose the subject line say it all, is it possible to build a turnkey application using picobsd ? what i hope to be able to do is to build a diskette that people can use to plug into thier computers and boot straight into a tcp/ip connection with the freebsd server located here. are thier any hidden traps that i should look out for ? regards and thank you for your time. cheers jonathan -- =============================================================================== Jonathan Michaels PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 Australia =========================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message