From owner-freebsd-smp Sun Jul 19 18:36:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA24123 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 18:36:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from orion.aye.net (orion.aye.net [206.185.8.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA24052 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 18:35:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rabtter@orion.aye.net) Received: (qmail 25690 invoked by uid 3759); 20 Jul 1998 01:36:57 -0000 Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 21:36:56 -0400 (EDT) From: "B. Richardson" To: freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Pentium vs Pentium Pro vs Pentium II for SMP Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I just read some info at http://sysdoc.pair.com which kind of suggests that the Pentium Pro may be a more solid choice for building a busy SMP server (especially in quad configurations). I have also ran across some posting in the mailing list archives (can't find them now :-( ) with some knowledgable folks citing a preference of the Pentium over the Pentium Pro for busy systems with large memory stating various reasons like memory bandwidth/path. Feedback/comments welcome. - Barrett Richardson rabtter@orion.aye.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Sun Jul 19 22:54:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA29644 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:54:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (castles146.castles.com [208.214.165.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA29618 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:53:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@antipodes.cdrom.com) Received: from antipodes.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by antipodes.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA24216; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:53:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199807200553.WAA24216@antipodes.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: "B. Richardson" cc: freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Pentium vs Pentium Pro vs Pentium II for SMP In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 19 Jul 1998 21:36:56 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:53:07 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I just read some info at http://sysdoc.pair.com which kind of suggests > that the Pentium Pro may be a more solid choice for building a > busy SMP server (especially in quad configurations). I have also > ran across some posting in the mailing list archives (can't find > them now :-( ) with some knowledgable folks citing a preference of the > Pentium over the Pentium Pro for busy systems with large memory stating > various reasons like memory bandwidth/path. > > Feedback/comments welcome. The outstanding issues are that you can put more than two P6's in a single system, and that the L2 cache on the P6 runs at full speed. The 350 and 400MHz PII parts address the second issue, but not the first; if you are building a quad you really have no choice AFAIK. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Sun Jul 19 23:13:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA01067 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 23:13:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from spooky.eis.net.au (spooky.eis.net.au [203.12.171.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA01059 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 23:13:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ernie@spooky.eis.net.au) Received: (from ernie@localhost) by spooky.eis.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.3) id QAA05896; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 16:12:39 +1000 (EST) From: Ernie Elu Message-Id: <199807200612.QAA05896@spooky.eis.net.au> Subject: Re: Pentium vs Pentium Pro vs Pentium II for SMP In-Reply-To: from "B. Richardson" at "Jul 19, 98 09:36:56 pm" To: rabtter@aye.net (B. Richardson) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 16:12:38 +1000 (EST) Cc: freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I just read some info at http://sysdoc.pair.com which kind of suggests > that the Pentium Pro may be a more solid choice for building a > busy SMP server (especially in quad configurations). I have also > ran across some posting in the mailing list archives (can't find > them now :-( ) with some knowledgable folks citing a preference of the > Pentium over the Pentium Pro for busy systems with large memory stating > various reasons like memory bandwidth/path. > > Feedback/comments welcome. > The only problem is that the Pentium Pro has recently been discontinued from production so stocks may dry up soon. - Ernie. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Mon Jul 20 00:05:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA05061 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 00:05:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail2.deltanet.com (mail2.deltanet.com [199.171.190.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA05055 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 00:05:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kevin.stephenson@pobox.com) Received: from kevin1 (ana4131.deltanet.com [199.171.191.131]) by mail2.deltanet.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id AAA29229 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 00:05:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199807200705.AAA29229@mail2.deltanet.com> X-Sender: cts@mail.deltanet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 00:05:40 -0700 To: freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Kevin J. Stephenson" Subject: Re: Pentium vs Pentium Pro vs Pentium II for SMP In-Reply-To: <199807200612.QAA05896@spooky.eis.net.au> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 04:12 PM 7/20/98 +1000, you wrote: >> >> I just read some info at http://sysdoc.pair.com which kind of suggests >> that the Pentium Pro may be a more solid choice for building a >> busy SMP server (especially in quad configurations). I have also >> ran across some posting in the mailing list archives (can't find >> them now :-( ) with some knowledgable folks citing a preference of the >> Pentium over the Pentium Pro for busy systems with large memory stating >> various reasons like memory bandwidth/path. >> >> Feedback/comments welcome. >> > >The only problem is that the Pentium Pro has recently been discontinued from >production so stocks may dry up soon. > >- Ernie. > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message > I believe the new Pentium II Xeon chip may allow for quad+ SMP configurations, along with other improvements. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-smp Mon Jul 20 06:24:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA05038 for freebsd-smp-outgoing; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 06:24:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop01.globecomm.net ([207.51.48.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA05033 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 06:24:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sersale@cyberdude.com) Received: from cyberdude.com (pc3.pcnet-center.com [168.187.250.103]) by pop01.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id JAA18840; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:23:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35B3450C.44D7DD0F@cyberdude.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 16:24:29 +0300 From: "Ala'aDin El-Zu'aby" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG, dead_line@hotmail.com Subject: Need an Offer. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there. I'm old user using mirc. i'd like to create a IRC server under DALnet conditions. and i need some Eiqpment to make this server UP. *For Example* 1) PII 300 machine *at least* 2) 128 Mb ram *At least* 3) Shell FreeBsd account 4) Internet lease line 24/7 5) T3 speed- backbons and this is the page for the DALnet conditions. plz. read it and check the Eqpmnt. i need and how u can offer it and how much it will coast me*monthly or what ever* if i will make this machine UP from your side 24/7 *cuz we dont have T3* and i can Telnet it from here. Thnx http://www.dal.net/vote/server-app.txt Looking forward to deal with u. waiting your answer, Regards Dead^Line *my nick in irc irc.dal.net* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-smp" in the body of the message