From owner-freebsd-sparc Tue Nov 3 22:27:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA28671 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 22:27:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from porkfriedrice.ny.genx.net (porkfriedrice.ny.genx.net [206.64.4.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA28666 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 22:27:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by porkfriedrice.ny.genx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA10550 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 01:30:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) X-Authentication-Warning: porkfriedrice.ny.genx.net: bright owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 01:30:27 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein X-Sender: bright@porkfriedrice.ny.genx.net To: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: status? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org how is the port coming? i just got an ultra for myself and i have a lot of low level pc coding experiance i'm looking to do some sparc work towards the port. Afaik nothing is really happening with this port or is there? Alfred Perlstein - Programmer, HotJobs Inc. - www.hotjobs.com -- There are operating systems, and then there's FreeBSD. -- http://www.freebsd.org/ 3.0-current To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Wed Nov 4 17:45:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA21508 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:45:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from feral-gw.feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA21503 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:45:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from localhost (mjacob@localhost) by feral-gw.feral.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA05851; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:44:47 -0800 Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:44:47 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@feral-gw Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Alfred Perlstein cc: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: status? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sounds like a dead alias. On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > how is the port coming? i just got an ultra for myself and i have a lot of > low level pc coding experiance i'm looking to do some sparc work towards > the port. > > Afaik nothing is really happening with this port or is there? > > Alfred Perlstein - Programmer, HotJobs Inc. - www.hotjobs.com > -- There are operating systems, and then there's FreeBSD. > -- http://www.freebsd.org/ 3.0-current > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Wed Nov 4 18:23:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA28496 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 18:23:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cs.uoregon.edu (vitalstatistix.cs.uoregon.edu [128.223.202.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA28487 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 18:23:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wcarey@cs.uoregon.edu) Received: from ix.cs.uoregon.edu (wcarey@ix.cs.uoregon.edu [128.223.4.21]) by cs.uoregon.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA23500; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 18:22:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 18:22:09 -0800 (PST) From: Woody Carey To: Matthew Jacob cc: Alfred Perlstein , freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: status? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > Sounds like a dead alias. > Huh? What is a dead alias? > > On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > > > how is the port coming? i just got an ultra for myself and i have a lot of > > low level pc coding experiance i'm looking to do some sparc work towards > > the port. > > > > Afaik nothing is really happening with this port or is there? > > > > Alfred Perlstein - Programmer, HotJobs Inc. - www.hotjobs.com > > -- There are operating systems, and then there's FreeBSD. > > -- http://www.freebsd.org/ 3.0-current > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------------- Woody Carey wcarey@cs.uoregon.edu 541.346.7529 Good news is just life's way of keeping you off balance. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Wed Nov 4 18:25:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA28719 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 18:25:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from feral-gw.feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA28692 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 18:25:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from localhost (mjacob@localhost) by feral-gw.feral.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA05918; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 18:24:56 -0800 Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 18:24:56 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@feral-gw Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Woody Carey cc: Alfred Perlstein , freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: status? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org No response. freebsd-sparc. "ee's not dead...just sleeping..." On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Woody Carey wrote: > On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > > Sounds like a dead alias. > > > > Huh? What is a dead alias? > > > > > On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > > > > > > how is the port coming? i just got an ultra for myself and i have a lot of > > > low level pc coding experiance i'm looking to do some sparc work towards > > > the port. > > > > > > Afaik nothing is really happening with this port or is there? > > > > > > Alfred Perlstein - Programmer, HotJobs Inc. - www.hotjobs.com > > > -- There are operating systems, and then there's FreeBSD. > > > -- http://www.freebsd.org/ 3.0-current > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Woody Carey wcarey@cs.uoregon.edu 541.346.7529 > > Good news is just life's way of keeping you off balance. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Thu Nov 5 00:09:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA02194 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:09:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jive.nacholand.com (jive.dub.net [169.197.1.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA02182 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:09:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from unfurl@dub.net) Received: from jive.dub.net (unfurl@jive.dub.net [169.197.1.32]) by jive.nacholand.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA24997; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:10:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from unfurl@dub.net) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:10:09 -0700 (MST) From: Unfurl X-Sender: unfurl@jive.nacholand.com To: Matthew Jacob cc: Woody Carey , Alfred Perlstein , freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: status? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "ee's pineing for the fields..." So there really is *no* work being done on this port? -- unfurl@dub.net - This is a munition. Fight Back! #!/bin/perl -sp0777i > No response. freebsd-sparc. "ee's not dead...just sleeping..." > > > > On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Woody Carey wrote: > > > On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > > > > > Sounds like a dead alias. > > > > > > > Huh? What is a dead alias? > > > > > > > > On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > how is the port coming? i just got an ultra for myself and i have a lot of > > > > low level pc coding experiance i'm looking to do some sparc work towards > > > > the port. > > > > > > > > Afaik nothing is really happening with this port or is there? > > > > > > > > Alfred Perlstein - Programmer, HotJobs Inc. - www.hotjobs.com > > > > -- There are operating systems, and then there's FreeBSD. > > > > -- http://www.freebsd.org/ 3.0-current > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Woody Carey wcarey@cs.uoregon.edu 541.346.7529 > > > > Good news is just life's way of keeping you off balance. > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Thu Nov 5 08:38:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA01363 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:38:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from feral-gw.feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01358 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:38:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from localhost (mjacob@localhost) by feral-gw.feral.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA08022; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:37:27 -0800 Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:37:27 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@feral-gw Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Unfurl cc: Woody Carey , Alfred Perlstein , freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: status? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Unfurl wrote: > "ee's pineing for the fields..." > > So there really is *no* work being done on this port? That I cannot say. If there is, it's been very quiet. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Thu Nov 5 09:12:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03787 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:12:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from porkfriedrice.ny.genx.net (porkfriedrice.ny.genx.net [206.64.4.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03769 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:12:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by porkfriedrice.ny.genx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA13618; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:15:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) X-Authentication-Warning: porkfriedrice.ny.genx.net: bright owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:15:18 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein X-Sender: bright@porkfriedrice.ny.genx.net To: Matthew Jacob cc: Unfurl , Woody Carey , freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: status? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ok, well there does seem to be a few people subscribed to this list. some questions to help me get started: a) Any URLs to Usparc assembler language (detailed) b) Any recommended books a&b for: sbus info, creator info, the scsi interface, serial interface i don't plan on supporting much as this is the first time i'm doing something like this. however i did purchase the box explicilty for this purpose. so i'm really counting on some pointers. other stuff: netbsd seems to have a usparc port, but i don't see any support in their source tree, any pointers/clues? i'm thinking of installing UltraPenguine as a build enviorment but would rather use netbsd for obvious reasons. so, opinions/comments? if anyone wants to donate a book on the arch to me i'll pay for shipping+whatever (if you want a small return on the book) unfortunatly all i have is books on PA-RISC, x86 and PPC archs, well PDP-11 if you count the Lions Book. :) thanks all, Alfred Perlstein - Programmer, HotJobs Inc. - www.hotjobs.com -- There are operating systems, and then there's FreeBSD. -- http://www.freebsd.org/ 3.0-current On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Matthew Jacob wrote: > On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Unfurl wrote: > > > "ee's pineing for the fields..." > > > > So there really is *no* work being done on this port? > > > That I cannot say. If there is, it's been very quiet. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Thu Nov 5 09:21:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04515 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:21:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from rachel (mail.glenatl.glenayre.com [157.230.160.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA04466 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:21:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhicks@glenatl.glenayre.com) Received: from jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com by rachel (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA05114; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:13:01 -0500 Received: from jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00330 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:13:00 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811051713.MAA00330@jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: status? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 05 Nov 1998 08:37:27 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 12:13:00 -0500 From: Jerry Hicks Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We're still listening too... I have quite a few UltraSparcs around here available for development and testing. Just don't have any time ;-) Cheers, Jerry Hicks jerry.hicks@glenayre.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Thu Nov 5 09:30:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05535 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:30:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from feral-gw.feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA05530 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:30:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from localhost (mjacob@localhost) by feral-gw.feral.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA08267; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:30:32 -0800 Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:30:31 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@feral-gw Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Alfred Perlstein cc: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: status? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org NetBSD and linux have quite usable and complete ports. I've heard that OpenBSD does as well. URL's I dunno. Try http://www.clbooks.com and search for SPARC- that'll get you the Sparc assembly reference guide. Try also http://www.sparc.org. The SBus information used to be available from Sun- you could get an SBus developers kit which had OBP (prom) info as well as other information. You might dig around http://www.sun.com. The onboard SCSI is the Emulex ESP100 (aka NCR 53C90). I don't know whether there's an existing HBA driver in FreeBSD for this. It isn't in the tree. I'd suggest that NetBSD is closer to what you want than Linux- which box did you get though- NetBSD isn't running on Ultras yet. -matt On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > ok, well there does seem to be a few people subscribed to this list. > > some questions to help me get started: > > a) Any URLs to Usparc assembler language (detailed) > b) Any recommended books > > a&b for: sbus info, creator info, the scsi interface, serial interface > > i don't plan on supporting much as this is the first time i'm doing > something like this. however i did purchase the box explicilty for this > purpose. so i'm really counting on some pointers. > > other stuff: > > netbsd seems to have a usparc port, but i don't see any support in their > source tree, any pointers/clues? > > i'm thinking of installing UltraPenguine as a build enviorment but would > rather use netbsd for obvious reasons. > > so, opinions/comments? > > if anyone wants to donate a book on the arch to me i'll pay for > shipping+whatever (if you want a small return on the book) > unfortunatly all i have is books on PA-RISC, x86 and PPC archs, well > PDP-11 if you count the Lions Book. :) > > thanks all, > Alfred Perlstein - Programmer, HotJobs Inc. - www.hotjobs.com > -- There are operating systems, and then there's FreeBSD. > -- http://www.freebsd.org/ 3.0-current > > On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Unfurl wrote: > > > > > "ee's pineing for the fields..." > > > > > > So there really is *no* work being done on this port? > > > > > > That I cannot say. If there is, it's been very quiet. > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Thu Nov 5 09:48:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA06837 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:48:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from icicle.winternet.com (icicle.winternet.com [198.174.169.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06831 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:48:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mestery@mail.winternet.com) Received: (from adm@localhost) by icicle.winternet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10889; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:48:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from tundra.winternet.com(198.174.169.11) by icicle.winternet.com via smap (V2.0) id xma010872; Thu, 5 Nov 98 11:47:46 -0600 Received: from localhost (mestery@localhost) by tundra.winternet.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA29096; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:47:44 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: tundra.winternet.com: mestery owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:47:44 -0600 (CST) From: Kyle Mestery To: Alfred Perlstein cc: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: status? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > netbsd seems to have a usparc port, but i don't see any support in their > source tree, any pointers/clues? > The code is in their current tree, not the released trees. Take a look at ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-current/src/sys/arch/sparc64 for the kernel source. The various build tools they have in the tree are in the tree also, and you may want to use them as a basis for the equivalent tools for FreeBSD. Here is some infor Warner Losh posted to freebsd-hackers a couple of weeks ago in reference to a freebsd-arm port. Hopefully it can help point you in the right direction for this effort: --- : Also, some pointers as to what are the main steps for doing such a port : (FreeBSD port as a whole) would be greatly appreciated. Step one, get build tools working. Step two-a, get the kernel working Step two-b, get userland working Step three boot. For kernel breakage, see step two-a, for userland breakage, see step two-b :-) You'll need to have at least some of the kernel files in place before you can build a userland. Trying to build the user land will tell you what is missing :-). --- Good luck, continue to post if you need more info, etc. -- Kyle Mestery StorageTek's Storage Networking Group To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Thu Nov 5 10:18:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA09490 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:18:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from porkfriedrice.ny.genx.net (porkfriedrice.ny.genx.net [206.64.4.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA09485 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:18:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by porkfriedrice.ny.genx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA20874; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:21:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) X-Authentication-Warning: porkfriedrice.ny.genx.net: bright owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:21:08 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein X-Sender: bright@porkfriedrice.ny.genx.net To: Matthew Jacob cc: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: status? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > NetBSD and linux have quite usable and complete ports. I've heard > that OpenBSD does as well. > > URL's I dunno. Try http://www.clbooks.com and search for > SPARC- that'll get you the Sparc assembly reference guide. > Try also http://www.sparc.org. > > The SBus information used to be available from Sun- you could > get an SBus developers kit which had OBP (prom) info as well > as other information. You might dig around http://www.sun.com. > > The onboard SCSI is the Emulex ESP100 (aka NCR 53C90). I don't > know whether there's an existing HBA driver in FreeBSD for this. > It isn't in the tree. > > I'd suggest that NetBSD is closer to what you want than Linux- > which box did you get though- NetBSD isn't running on Ultras > yet. Ultra 170e, 256ram, 2 4gig scsi disks, creator 2 gfx, hme network etc... thanks fot the pointers, putting it in my saved mail. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Thu Nov 5 10:53:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA13497 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:53:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from transbay.net (synergy.transbay.net [209.133.53.2] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA13491 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:53:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bh@synergy.transbay.net) Received: from localhost (bh@localhost) by transbay.net (8.9.1/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA29406; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:31:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bh@synergy.transbay.net) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:31:53 -0800 (PST) From: Brandon Huey To: Matthew Jacob cc: Alfred Perlstein , freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: status? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Copyright: (C)1998 Brandon Huey; Forwarding prohibited MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org it was my impression that this port was specifically to sun4u? net and open run great on sun4{c,m} but that is all that i'm aware of. wrong? -brandon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Thu Nov 5 11:01:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA14344 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:01:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [128.120.56.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA14330 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:01:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA18836; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:00:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Message-ID: <19981105110049.A12372@nuxi.com> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:00:49 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: mjacob@feral.com, Alfred Perlstein Cc: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: status? Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Matthew Jacob on Thu, Nov 05, 1998 at 09:30:31AM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > URL's I dunno. Try http://www.clbooks.com and search for The FreeBSD Sparc page is http://www.freebsd.org/~jseger/freebsd-sparc/ Not much there, but maybe you will find something useful. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Thu Nov 5 11:11:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA15738 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:11:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from icicle.winternet.com (icicle.winternet.com [198.174.169.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA15729 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:11:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mestery@mail.winternet.com) Received: (from adm@localhost) by icicle.winternet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26606; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:10:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from tundra.winternet.com(198.174.169.11) by icicle.winternet.com via smap (V2.0) id xma026567; Thu, 5 Nov 98 13:10:40 -0600 Received: from localhost (mestery@localhost) by tundra.winternet.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA29916; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:10:39 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: tundra.winternet.com: mestery owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:10:38 -0600 (CST) From: Kyle Mestery To: Brandon Huey cc: Matthew Jacob , Alfred Perlstein , freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: status? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org UltraSparc support is in the current tree. Not sure of it's status yet. I think it only supports Ultra1's, not the PCI based Ultras. -- Kyle Mestery StorageTek's Storage Networking Group On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Brandon Huey wrote: > > it was my impression that this port was specifically to sun4u? > net and open run great on sun4{c,m} but that is all that i'm aware of. > > wrong? > > -brandon > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Thu Nov 5 11:13:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA16003 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:13:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fs.IConNet.NET (fs.IConNet.NET [199.173.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA15987 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:13:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuck@iconnet.net) Received: from ncc-ws03. (ncc-ws03.IConNet.NET [199.173.160.198]) by fs.IConNet.NET (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id OAA03880; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:12:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by ncc-ws03. (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA01180; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:14:02 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:14:02 -0500 (EST) From: chuck X-Sender: chuck@ncc-ws03 To: Alfred Perlstein cc: Matthew Jacob , Unfurl , Woody Carey , freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: status? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Check out www.sparc.org. This will give you pointers to the official documents on the SPARC architecture. I've got a version 8 that I'll sacrifice, but that's not Ultra. Wouldn't mind a PA-RISC book tho. ;) Chuck Youse - Icon CMT Network Operations Center chuck@iconnet.net On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > ok, well there does seem to be a few people subscribed to this list. > > some questions to help me get started: > > a) Any URLs to Usparc assembler language (detailed) > b) Any recommended books > > a&b for: sbus info, creator info, the scsi interface, serial interface > > i don't plan on supporting much as this is the first time i'm doing > something like this. however i did purchase the box explicilty for this > purpose. so i'm really counting on some pointers. > > other stuff: > > netbsd seems to have a usparc port, but i don't see any support in their > source tree, any pointers/clues? > > i'm thinking of installing UltraPenguine as a build enviorment but would > rather use netbsd for obvious reasons. > > so, opinions/comments? > > if anyone wants to donate a book on the arch to me i'll pay for > shipping+whatever (if you want a small return on the book) > unfortunatly all i have is books on PA-RISC, x86 and PPC archs, well > PDP-11 if you count the Lions Book. :) > > thanks all, > Alfred Perlstein - Programmer, HotJobs Inc. - www.hotjobs.com > -- There are operating systems, and then there's FreeBSD. > -- http://www.freebsd.org/ 3.0-current > > On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Unfurl wrote: > > > > > "ee's pineing for the fields..." > > > > > > So there really is *no* work being done on this port? > > > > > > That I cannot say. If there is, it's been very quiet. > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Thu Nov 5 11:25:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA17957 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:25:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from porkfriedrice.ny.genx.net (porkfriedrice.ny.genx.net [206.64.4.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17936 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:25:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by porkfriedrice.ny.genx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA20988; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:27:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) X-Authentication-Warning: porkfriedrice.ny.genx.net: bright owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:27:51 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein X-Sender: bright@porkfriedrice.ny.genx.net To: Kyle Mestery cc: Brandon Huey , Matthew Jacob , freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: status? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > UltraSparc support is in the current tree. Not sure of it's status yet. > I think it only supports Ultra1's, not the PCI based Ultras. > ok that kicks-a** as i have a sbus ultra-1, i was worried that they'd only be supporting the newer PCI bus. Thanks. -alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Thu Nov 5 11:28:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA18400 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:28:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gjp.erols.com (alex-va-n008c079.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA18291 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:28:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (gjp@localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA18507; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:27:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: mjacob@feral.com cc: Alfred Perlstein , freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: status? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 05 Nov 1998 09:30:31 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 14:27:12 -0500 Message-ID: <18503.910294032@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matthew Jacob wrote in message ID : > The onboard SCSI is the Emulex ESP100 (aka NCR 53C90). I don't > know whether there's an existing HBA driver in FreeBSD for this. > It isn't in the tree. Are those the `fas' interfaces? Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Thu Nov 5 11:32:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA19065 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:32:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from feral-gw.feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA18934; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:31:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from localhost (mjacob@localhost) by feral-gw.feral.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA09542; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:31:18 -0800 Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:31:18 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@feral-gw Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Gary Palmer cc: Alfred Perlstein , freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: status? In-Reply-To: <18503.910294032@gjp.erols.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FAS is a newer version of the chip, yes. In fact, the internal core of the ISP SCSI chipset (Qlogic 1020/1040) is the same thing. The fas chipset is the ESP266 I believe which is a 16 bit wide version. As usual, Sun putzed it by having a separate HBA driver. On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Gary Palmer wrote: > Matthew Jacob wrote in message ID > : > > The onboard SCSI is the Emulex ESP100 (aka NCR 53C90). I don't > > know whether there's an existing HBA driver in FreeBSD for this. > > It isn't in the tree. > > Are those the `fas' interfaces? > > Gary > -- > Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member > FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Thu Nov 5 11:56:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA22198 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:56:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from xylan.com (postal.xylan.com [208.8.0.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA22193 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:56:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from mailhub.xylan.com by xylan.com (8.8.7/SMI-SVR4 (xylan-mgw 2.2 [OUT])) id LAA09725; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:55:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from utah.XYLAN.COM by mailhub.xylan.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (mailhub 2.1 [HUB])) id LAA19891; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:55:42 -0800 Received: from softweyr.com by utah.XYLAN.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (xylan utah [SPOOL])) id MAA20126; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:55:41 -0700 Message-ID: <364202BD.D217FD0D@softweyr.com> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 12:55:41 -0700 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alfred Perlstein CC: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: status? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > ok, well there does seem to be a few people subscribed to this list. > > some questions to help me get started: > > a) Any URLs to Usparc assembler language (detailed) > b) Any recommended books > > a&b for: sbus info, creator info, the scsi interface, serial interface The first place to look is http://docs.sun.com/ They may have much of what you need on-line, in HTML or PDF. > i don't plan on supporting much as this is the first time i'm doing > something like this. however i did purchase the box explicilty for this > purpose. so i'm really counting on some pointers. > > other stuff: > > netbsd seems to have a usparc port, but i don't see any support in their > source tree, any pointers/clues? As mentioned in another response, the sparc64 port is in the -current build tree. They currently support the ultra1/ultra2 systems, not the PCI-based ultra5 and ultra10. You may want to contact the NetBSD sparc64 port maintainer and find out what they're doing. > if anyone wants to donate a book on the arch to me i'll pay for > shipping+whatever (if you want a small return on the book) > unfortunatly all i have is books on PA-RISC, x86 and PPC archs, well > PDP-11 if you count the Lions Book. :) I have several SPARClite books around, but that isn't going to help you, as they are a (distant) subset of UltraSPARC. Good luck! -- Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? Wes Peters +1.801.915.2061 Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Thu Nov 5 12:05:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA23633 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:05:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fep02-svc.tin.it (mta02-acc.tin.it [212.216.176.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA23428 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:03:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paipai@box4.tin.it) Received: from winworkstation ([212.216.234.166]) by fep02-svc.tin.it (InterMail v4.0 201-221-105) with SMTP id <19981105200322.NSBM20712.fep02-svc@winworkstation> for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 21:03:22 +0100 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Paolo Di Francesco" To: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 21:04:47 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: I am "new".... X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Message-Id: <19981105200322.NSBM20712.fep02-svc@winworkstation> Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ok, I've just subscribed to this mailing list. The main reason is "curiosity" I think and I'd want to know who is actively developing on this platform and why. Some questions: 1) Which will be the supported platforms? (the oldest ones?) I need to know this because I would help in some way, but I do not have a SPARC box at home. So I have to buy it, but this means "money" and I'm a student so not much "money".....8( 2) Current state. I think I have to learn many things if I want to be of some help.... But if you have done it, I think I shall do something else. 8) Why I want to "play" with kernels and the low-level part of a system? Well, you can learn many things, experimenting this kind of things. P.S. let me know what you think. Thanx Ciao Ciao Paolo Di Francesco _ ->B<- All Recycled Bytes Message ... ~ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Thu Nov 5 12:32:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26443 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:32:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from porkfriedrice.ny.genx.net (porkfriedrice.ny.genx.net [206.64.4.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA26436 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:32:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by porkfriedrice.ny.genx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA23600; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:35:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) X-Authentication-Warning: porkfriedrice.ny.genx.net: bright owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:35:11 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein X-Sender: bright@porkfriedrice.ny.genx.net To: Paolo Di Francesco cc: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: I am "new".... In-Reply-To: <19981105200322.NSBM20712.fep02-svc@winworkstation> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: > Ok, I've just subscribed to this mailing list. The main reason is "curiosity" > I think and I'd want to know who is actively developing on this platform and > why. > > > Some questions: > > 1) Which will be the supported platforms? (the oldest ones?) > I need to know this because I would help in some way, but I do not have a SPARC > box at home. So I have to buy it, but this means "money" and I'm a student so > not much "money".....8( > > 2) Current state. I think I have to learn many things if I want to be of some > help.... But if you have done it, I think I shall do something else. 8) > > > Why I want to "play" with kernels and the low-level part of a system? > Well, you can learn many things, experimenting this kind of things. > > P.S. let me know what you think. The port is dead but I hope to get something started soon. I just jumped on the list myself, the plan is to support ultrasparcs, not the older chips. I'm in the process of researching several sites pointed at by members of this list. If you understand low level programming (assembler) and priviledged modes then we definetly need you. I'm going to base my work off the netbsd port right now. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Sat Nov 7 08:06:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA12740 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 08:06:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fep03-svc.tin.it (mta03-acc.tin.it [212.216.176.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA12729 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 08:06:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paipai@box4.tin.it) Received: from winworkstation ([212.216.235.22]) by fep03-svc.tin.it (InterMail v4.0 201-221-105) with SMTP id <19981107160616.SHMW4571.fep03-svc@winworkstation> for ; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 17:06:16 +0100 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Paolo Di Francesco" To: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 17:07:42 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Developing X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Message-Id: <19981107160616.SHMW4571.fep03-svc@winworkstation> Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org 1) Who is developing and on which platform (actual configuration )? 2) Someone using Sparc clones? Where did you buy it? 3) Is a Sparc clone MB identical (from a freebsd poin of view) to a Sun-Sparc ? Ciao Ciao Paolo Di Francesco _ ->B<- All Recycled Bytes Message ... ~ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message