From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 1 05:30:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from daemon@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA07685 for stable-outgoing; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 05:30:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from conductor.synapse.net (conductor.synapse.net [199.84.54.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA07674 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 05:30:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from evanc@synapse.net) Received: (qmail 27797 invoked from network); 1 Feb 1998 13:30:32 -0000 Received: from cello.synapse.net (HELO cello) (199.84.54.81) by conductor.synapse.net with SMTP; 1 Feb 1998 13:30:31 -0000 Message-ID: <00ac01bd2f15$8da59660$2844c00a@cello.synapse.net> From: "Evan Champion" To: Subject: Merging DPT code in to 2.2.6? Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 08:30:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Is there any hope of the DPT code being merged in to 2.2.6? The DPT code itself is rock-solid, but I don't know how much it depends on more fluid code in 3.0-current. Thanks. Evan From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 1 06:37:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from daemon@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA14860 for stable-outgoing; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 06:37:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from conductor.synapse.net (conductor.synapse.net [199.84.54.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA14851 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 06:37:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from evanc@synapse.net) Received: (qmail 943 invoked from network); 1 Feb 1998 14:36:57 -0000 Received: from cello.synapse.net (HELO cello) (199.84.54.81) by conductor.synapse.net with SMTP; 1 Feb 1998 14:36:57 -0000 Message-ID: <017601bd2f1e$d4ef0340$2844c00a@cello.synapse.net> From: "Evan Champion" To: Subject: Instant trap on make installworld Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 09:36:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0173_01BD2EF4.EBC50EE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0173_01BD2EF4.EBC50EE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Configuration: 2.2.5-STABLE client mounts /usr/obj and /usr/src off a 2.2.5-STABLE server. On the server, these directories are on /exports, and are loopback-mounted to /usr/obj and /usr/src via NULLFS so that make won't get confused about the pathname differences. The client's make world works great. The problem comes when I go to the server, and try to make installworld based on the client's build. During the first line of the make, the server panics: cd /usr/src && PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/sr c/tmp/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin BISON_SIMPLE=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/share/misc/bison.simple COMPILER_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin GCC_EXEC_PREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib CC='cc -nostdinc' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make reinstall Fatal trap 18: integer divide fault while in kernel mode instruction pointer = 0x8:0xf01b00b8 stack pointer = 0x10:0xefbffdfc frame pointer = 0x10:0xefbffe48 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 196 (make) interrupt mask = panic: integer divide fault (IIRC, it isn't always this panic, but it always panics instantly...) The loopback filesystems seem to work fine for all other purposes, so I'm at a loss to explain why the server fails. The only thing I can see is that it points all the FYI, there are a couple reasons why I am not building this on the server. The first is that I am forcing myself to treat that box like a NetApp or somesuch -- it's just a big disk on the net which I'm not allowed to play around with. The other is that for some reason if I do too much on that box, it will also panic. I think that the particular -STABLE I put on there originally isn't particularly stable :-) but as long as the box is left alone, it runs just great as an NFS server. We've verified the RAM and are quite sure it isn't a hardware fault. This panic is always something like: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0x0 stack pointer = 0x10:0xefbffb48 frame pointer = 0x10:0xefbffb84 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 1304 (install) interrupt mask = panic: page fault As a side note, is there a way to get this to work with symlinks instead of NULLFS? Attached is my kernel config. The only "odd" thing is that I'm running the latest dpt drivers for 2.2.5-STABLE (version 1.2.4). This box was installed using January 22's 2.2.5-STABLE snap, and has never successfully been updated, due to the above problems. Evan ------=_NextPart_000_0173_01BD2EF4.EBC50EE0 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Timpani" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Timpani" # piano machine "i386" cpu "I586_CPU" ident PIANO maxusers 256 options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options NFS #Network Filesystem options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options DEVFS #devices filesystem options NULLFS #NULL filesystem options SHOW_BUSYBUFS #List buffers that prevent root unmount config kernel root on sd0 controller isa0 controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 # A single entry for any of these controllers (ncr, ahb, ahc, amd) is # sufficient for any number of installed devices. controller dpt0 options DPT_MEASURE_PERFORMANCE options DPT_TIMEOUT_FACTOR=4 # This one is MANDATORY. controller scbus0 device sd0 device st0 # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr # Mandatory, don't remove device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" flags 0x1 irq 13 vector npxintr device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See # revision 1.20 of this file. device de0 device fxp0 pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device bpfilter 4 pseudo-device log pseudo-device pty 16 # KTRACE enables the system-call tracing facility ktrace(2). # This adds 4 KB bloat to your kernel, and slightly increases # the costs of each syscall. options KTRACE #kernel tracing # These three options provide support for System V Interface # Definition-style interprocess communication, in the form of shared # memory, semaphores, and message queues, respectively. # options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG ------=_NextPart_000_0173_01BD2EF4.EBC50EE0-- From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 1 13:16:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from daemon@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07304 for stable-outgoing; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 13:16:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from piano.synapse.net (piano.synapse.net [199.84.54.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA07279 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 13:16:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from "evanc-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org"@synapse.net) From: "evanc-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org"@synapse.net Received: (qmail 2654 invoked by uid 100); 1 Feb 1998 21:16:17 -0000 Date: 1 Feb 1998 21:16:17 -0000 Message-ID: <19980201211617.2653.qmail@piano.synapse.net> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Instant trap on make installworld Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk (apologies if this goes out twice; I originally sent this this morning but haven't seen it come through yet...) Configuration: 2.2.5-STABLE client mounts /usr/obj and /usr/src off a 2.2.5-STABLE server. On the server, these directories are on /exports, and are loopback-mounted to /usr/obj and /usr/src via NULLFS so that make won't get confused about the pathname differences. The client's make world works great. The problem comes when I go to the server, and try to make installworld based on the client's build. During the first line of the make, the server panics: cd /usr/src && PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/sr c/tmp/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin BISON_SIMPLE=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/share/misc/bison.simple COMPILER_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin GCC_EXEC_PREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib CC='cc -nostdinc' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make reinstall Fatal trap 18: integer divide fault while in kernel mode instruction pointer = 0x8:0xf01b00b8 stack pointer = 0x10:0xefbffdfc frame pointer = 0x10:0xefbffe48 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 196 (make) interrupt mask = panic: integer divide fault (IIRC, it isn't always this panic, but it always panics instantly...) The loopback filesystems seem to work fine for all other purposes, so I'm at a loss to explain why the server fails. The only thing I can see is that it points all the FYI, there are a couple reasons why I am not building this on the server. The first is that I am forcing myself to treat that box like a NetApp or somesuch -- it's just a big disk on the net which I'm not allowed to play around with. The other is that for some reason if I do too much on that box, it will also panic. I think that the particular -STABLE I put on there originally isn't particularly stable :-) but as long as the box is left alone, it runs just great as an NFS server. We've verified the RAM and are quite sure it isn't a hardware fault. This panic is always something like: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0x0 stack pointer = 0x10:0xefbffb48 frame pointer = 0x10:0xefbffb84 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 1304 (install) interrupt mask = panic: page fault As a side note, is there a way to get this to work with symlinks instead of NULLFS? Attached is my kernel config. The only "odd" thing is that I'm running the latest dpt drivers for 2.2.5-STABLE (version 1.2.4). This box was installed using January 22's 2.2.5-STABLE snap, and has never successfully been updated, due to the above problems. Evan From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 1 13:16:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from daemon@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07408 for stable-outgoing; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 13:16:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from piano.synapse.net (piano.synapse.net [199.84.54.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA07403 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 13:16:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from "evanc-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org"@synapse.net) From: "evanc-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org"@synapse.net Received: (qmail 2659 invoked by uid 100); 1 Feb 1998 21:16:52 -0000 Date: 1 Feb 1998 21:16:52 -0000 Message-ID: <19980201211652.2658.qmail@piano.synapse.net> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Merging DPT code in to 2.2.6? Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk (again, apologies if this gets sent twice) Is there any hope of the DPT code being merged in to 2.2.6? The DPT code itself is rock-solid, but I don't know how much it depends on more fluid code in 3.0-current. Thanks. Evan From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Feb 1 13:20:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from daemon@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA08195 for stable-outgoing; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 13:20:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from piano.synapse.net (piano.synapse.net [199.84.54.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA08132 for ; Sun, 1 Feb 1998 13:20:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from "evanc-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org"@synapse.net) From: "evanc-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org"@synapse.net Received: (qmail 2697 invoked by uid 100); 1 Feb 1998 21:20:33 -0000 Date: 1 Feb 1998 21:20:33 -0000 Message-ID: <19980201212033.2696.qmail@piano.synapse.net> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Instant trap on make installworld -- kernel config and dmesg Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Kernel config: # piano machine "i386" cpu "I586_CPU" ident PIANO maxusers 256 options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options NFS #Network Filesystem options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options DEVFS #devices filesystem options NULLFS #NULL filesystem options SHOW_BUSYBUFS #List buffers that prevent root unmount config kernel root on sd0 controller isa0 controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 # A single entry for any of these controllers (ncr, ahb, ahc, amd) is # sufficient for any number of installed devices. controller dpt0 options DPT_MEASURE_PERFORMANCE options DPT_TIMEOUT_FACTOR=4 # This one is MANDATORY. controller scbus0 device sd0 device st0 # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr # Mandatory, don't remove device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" flags 0x1 irq 13 vector npxintr device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See # revision 1.20 of this file. device de0 device fxp0 pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device bpfilter 4 pseudo-device log pseudo-device pty 16 # KTRACE enables the system-call tracing facility ktrace(2). # This adds 4 KB bloat to your kernel, and slightly increases # the costs of each syscall. options KTRACE #kernel tracing # These three options provide support for System V Interface # Definition-style interprocess communication, in the form of shared # memory, semaphores, and message queues, respectively. # options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG Dmesg: FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE #0: Sun Feb 1 09:17:21 EST 1998 evanc@piano.synapse.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/TIMPANI CPU: Pentium (99.72-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x525 Stepping=5 Features=0x1bf real memory = 134217728 (131072K bytes) avail memory = 129499136 (126464K bytes) DEVFS: ready for devices DPT: RAID Manager driver, Version 1.0.1 Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0 rev 1 on pci0:0 chip1 rev 1 on pci0:7:0 chip2 rev 0 on pci0:7:1 DPT: PCI SCSI HBA Driver, version 1.2.4 dpt0 rev 2 int a irq 10 on pci0:9 dpt0: DPT type 3, model PM3334UW firmware 07L0, Protocol 0 on port e010 with 458753MB Write-Back cache. LED = 0000 0000 dpt0: Enabled Options: Collect Metrics (dpt0:0:0): "DPT RAID-5 07L0" type 0 fixed SCSI 2 sd0(dpt0:0:0): Direct-Access 16536MB (33866752 512 byte sectors) de0 rev 17 int a irq 11 on pci0:10 de0: SMC 9332DST 21140 [10-100Mb/s] pass 1.1 de0: address 00:00:c0:70:ad:9e de0: enabling 100baseTX port vga0 rev 0 on pci0:11 Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in npx0 flags 0x1 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface Intel Pentium F00F detected, installing workaround DEVFS: ready to run So there's not too much there to go wrong... Anyway, any help would be much appreciated. Evan From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 3 03:26:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from daemon@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA07886 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 03:26:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from hawk.gnome.co.uk (gnome.gw.cerbernet.co.uk [193.243.224.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA07880 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 03:26:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jacs@hawk.gnome.co.uk) Received: from hawk.gnome.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hawk.gnome.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00991 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 11:26:09 GMT (envelope-from jacs@hawk.gnome.co.uk) Message-Id: <199802031126.LAA00991@hawk.gnome.co.uk> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: ipfw or Netscape problem? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 11:26:09 +0000 From: Chris Stenton Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have just started having problems with Netscape connecting to specific sites. For instance I can't connect to www.infoseek.com cos I get the following repeated ipfw message Feb 3 09:23:22 hawk /kernel: ipfw: 1900 Deny TCP 204.162.96.21:26982 193.243.224.22:8736 in via ppp0 Fragment = 97 The ipfw rule 1900 blocks all outside tcp connections to port 87 ?! I am running stable that was built on Jan 30th. Anyone else having similar problems? Chris From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 3 18:22:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from daemon@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA21178 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 18:22:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from mail.wsg.net (ns1.wsg.net [206.97.122.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA21166 for ; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 18:22:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gilem@wsg.net) Received: (qmail 6507 invoked from network); 4 Feb 1998 02:37:04 -0000 Received: from mike.wsg.net (206.97.122.31) by mail.wsg.net with SMTP; 4 Feb 1998 02:37:05 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980203212417.00814100@mail.wsg.net> X-Sender: gilem@mail.wsg.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 21:24:17 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Michael R. Gile" Subject: refusing SMTP connections In-Reply-To: <199801151017.CAA13226@implode.root.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I have a strange problem using 2.2.5-RELEASE when using perl Mail::Internet smtpsend() SMTP connections are refused to the local server when several (12 or so) connections are made in rapid succession. I thought this might be a backlog problem, but /sys/sys/socket.h says SOMAXCONN is 128 and listen is being called with a backlog of 100 the same software performs fine on another machine which is about 1/2 the speed, but is running solaris 2.5 instead of freebsd. If anyone has any ideas as to why this would occur, then i would be grateful. Thanks =========================================================== Michael Gile gilem@wsg.net President (518)435-0682 Web Services Group http://www.wsg.net From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Feb 3 20:33:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from daemon@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA10051 for stable-outgoing; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 20:33:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from casa.plan.pixelogix.com (casagate.plan.pixelogix.com [206.129.249.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA10036; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 20:33:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phils@casa.plan.pixelogix.com) Received: (from phils@localhost) by casa.plan.pixelogix.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id UAA01493; Tue, 3 Feb 1998 20:32:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 1998 20:32:21 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199802040432.UAA01493@casa.plan.pixelogix.com> From: Phil Staub To: current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: PPP Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Brian: A quick (I hope) question re: ppp-980123.src.tar.gz downloaded from your page. Have you disabled the telnet connection in this version? I got a "connection refused" when I tried to telnet into it on port 3000. (Yes, I remembered to disable the pppctl socket.) It worked fine on the version from 2.2.5-STABLE. Thanks, Phil -- Phil Staub, KE7HC Senior Software Engineer phils@pixelogix.com Audio Precision, Inc. or phils@audioprecision.com Beaverton, OR 97075, (800) 231-7350 From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 4 11:22:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from daemon@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA18912 for stable-outgoing; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 11:22:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable) Received: from techpower.net (fragment@techpower.net [205.133.231.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA18899 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 11:22:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fragment@techpower.net) Received: from localhost (fragment@localhost) by techpower.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA01452 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 14:21:37 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 14:21:37 -0500 (EST) From: defragmented To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: mouse Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Help! Has the mouse driver changed in 2.2.5 stable..my mouse is working fine just will not cut and paste I just updated cvsup stable and made a new kernel. now no cut and paste. mouse working fine other wise. please respond mail I am not on this list. From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 4 15:35:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA09228 for stable-outgoing; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 15:35:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA09222 for stable; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 15:35:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmb) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 15:35:21 -0800 (PST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199802042335.PAA09222@hub.freebsd.org> To: stable Subject: reported dead Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" let's see if it is jmb From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 4 15:52:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA12256 for stable-outgoing; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 15:52:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com ([157.230.162.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12180 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 15:51:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhicks@atlanta.glenayre.com) Received: from atlanta.glenayre.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jhicks.glenatl.glenayre.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA08494 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 18:27:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34D8F975.FC20DA00@atlanta.glenayre.com> Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 18:27:50 -0500 From: Jerry Hicks Reply-To: jhicks@atlanta.glenayre.com Organization: Glenayre Electronics, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@hub.freebsd.org Subject: Re: reported dead References: <199802042335.PAA09222@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > > let's see if it is > > jmb heh- not dead, just (very) stable From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 4 18:34:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA10757 for stable-outgoing; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 18:34:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from kwanon.research.canon.com.au (kwanon.research.canon.com.au [203.12.172.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA10719 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 18:34:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andy@research.canon.com.au) Received: (qmail 16084 invoked from network); 5 Feb 1998 02:34:16 -0000 Received: from grainger.research.canon.com.au (203.12.174.130) by kwanon-le1.research.canon.com.au with SMTP; 5 Feb 1998 02:34:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 10633 invoked from network); 5 Feb 1998 02:32:17 -0000 Received: from horton.research.canon.com.au (203.12.174.209) by grainger.research.canon.com.au with SMTP; 5 Feb 1998 02:32:17 -0000 Received: (from andy@localhost) by horton.research.canon.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA19293 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 13:32:09 +1100 (EST) From: Andy Newman Message-Id: <199802050232.NAA19293@horton.research.canon.com.au> Subject: Re: reported dead To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 13:32:09 +1100 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199802042335.PAA09222@hub.freebsd.org> from "Jonathan M. Bresler" at Feb 4, 98 03:35:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" > let's see if it is Not any more. This is the first bit of -stable mail I've got since the 21st of Jan. I see in the FTP archives there's been traffic but I missed out :-( -- Andy Newman From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 4 18:42:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA11913 for stable-outgoing; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 18:42:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA11889; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 18:41:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmb) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199802050241.SAA11889@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: reported dead In-Reply-To: <199802050232.NAA19293@horton.research.canon.com.au> from Andy Newman at "Feb 5, 98 01:32:09 pm" To: andy@research.canon.com.au (Andy Newman) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 18:41:43 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" Andy Newman wrote: > > let's see if it is > > Not any more. This is the first bit of -stable mail I've > got since the 21st of Jan. I see in the FTP archives there's > been traffic but I missed out :-( i imagine that others missed out as well. the arcihve is avilable via frp from ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/mailing-lists/archive/freebsd-stable and .../archive/1998/freebsd-stable/* jmb From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 4 20:51:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA26261 for stable-outgoing; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 20:51:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fledge.watson.org (root@FLEDGE.RES.CMU.EDU [128.2.91.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA26194 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 20:50:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robert@cyrus.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (robert@fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.8.8/8.6.10) with SMTP id XAA04116; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 23:49:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 1998 23:49:55 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org Reply-To: Robert Watson To: Andy Newman cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: reported dead In-Reply-To: <199802050232.NAA19293@horton.research.canon.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" On Thu, 5 Feb 1998, Andy Newman wrote: > > let's see if it is > > Not any more. This is the first bit of -stable mail I've > got since the 21st of Jan. I see in the FTP archives there's > been traffic but I missed out :-( Ditto here. I'll go grab the archive. I have also not beens seeing traffic on freebsd-security recently. Hopefuly that will restore itself along with stable? :) Robert N Watson Carnegie Mellon University http://www.cmu.edu/ SafePort Network Services http://www.safeport.com/ robert@fledge.watson.org http://www.watson.org/~robert/ From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 4 20:52:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA26446 for stable-outgoing; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 20:52:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from the.oneinsane.net (root@link2.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA26089 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 20:50:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from insane@oneinsane.net) Received: from killa.oneinsane.net (killa.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.242]) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980204204638.007f1100@the.oneinsane.net> X-Sender: insane@the.oneinsane.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 20:46:38 -0800 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Ron Rosson Subject: So Are we getting it ;-) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" I am like the others haven't seen a post to stable in quite sometime until jmb rocked it a little bit. So is something amiss on hub.freebsd.org or do we have to resub to stable if we are not getting any post. Again I have to agree with jmb I have been pretty stable ;-) TIA Ron -------------------------------------------------------- Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... rlr@n2.net rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was null and void -------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Feb 4 21:14:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA00586 for stable-outgoing; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 21:14:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from the.oneinsane.net (root@link2.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA00487 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 1998 21:13:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from insane@oneinsane.net) Received: from killa.oneinsane.net (killa.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.242]) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980204210234.00a20e70@the.oneinsane.net> X-Sender: insane@the.oneinsane.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 21:02:34 -0800 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Ron Rosson Subject: Re: reported dead In-Reply-To: References: <199802050232.NAA19293@horton.research.canon.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" IMHO, I think there are gremlins working on hub to get her back to and beyond to what her capacity was before the drive failure. At 11:49 PM 2/4/98 -0500, Robert Watson wrote: >On Thu, 5 Feb 1998, Andy Newman wrote: > >> > let's see if it is >> >> Not any more. This is the first bit of -stable mail I've >> got since the 21st of Jan. I see in the FTP archives there's >> been traffic but I missed out :-( > >Ditto here. I'll go grab the archive. > >I have also not beens seeing traffic on freebsd-security recently. >Hopefuly that will restore itself along with stable? :) > > Robert N Watson > >Carnegie Mellon University http://www.cmu.edu/ >SafePort Network Services http://www.safeport.com/ >robert@fledge.watson.org http://www.watson.org/~robert/ > > > -------------------------------------------------------- Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... rlr@n2.net rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was null and void -------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 5 07:17:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA01875 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 07:17:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (passer.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.110.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA01868 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 07:17:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cy@cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.8/8.6.10) id HAA30820; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 07:17:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca(142.31.240.113), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpdaaCxya; Thu Feb 5 07:17:08 1998 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.8.8/8.6.10) id HAA04554; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 07:17:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199802051517.HAA04554@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpd004545; Thu Feb 5 15:16:54 1998 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 Reply-to: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: cy To: "evanc-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org"@synapse.net cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Instant trap on make installworld In-reply-to: Your message of "01 Feb 1998 21:16:17 GMT." <19980201211617.2653.qmail@piano.synapse.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 07:16:50 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" > (apologies if this goes out twice; I originally sent this this morning > but haven't seen it come through yet...) > > Configuration: > > 2.2.5-STABLE client mounts /usr/obj and /usr/src off a 2.2.5-STABLE server. > On the server, these directories are on /exports, and are loopback-mounted > to /usr/obj and /usr/src via NULLFS so that make won't get confused about > the pathname differences. > > The client's make world works great. The problem comes when I go to the > server, and try to make installworld based on the client's build. During > the first line of the make, the server panics: > > cd /usr/src && > PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/sr > c/tmp/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin > BISON_SIMPLE=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/share/misc/bison.simple > COMPILER_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin > GCC_EXEC_PREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib/ > LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib > LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/lib > CC='cc -nostdinc' /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make reinstall > > Fatal trap 18: integer divide fault while in kernel mode > instruction pointer = 0x8:0xf01b00b8 > stack pointer = 0x10:0xefbffdfc > frame pointer = 0x10:0xefbffe48 > code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 > processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 > current process = 196 (make) > interrupt mask = > panic: integer divide fault > > (IIRC, it isn't always this panic, but it always panics instantly...) > > The loopback filesystems seem to work fine for all other purposes, so I'm at > a loss to explain why the server fails. The only thing I can see is that it > points all the > > FYI, there are a couple reasons why I am not building this on the server. > The first is that I am forcing myself to treat that box like a NetApp or > somesuch -- it's just a big disk on the net which I'm not allowed to play > around with. The other is that for some reason if I do too much on that > box, it will also panic. I think that the particular -STABLE I put on there > originally isn't particularly stable :-) but as long as the box is left > alone, it runs just great as an NFS server. We've verified the RAM and are > quite sure it isn't a hardware fault. This panic is always something like: > > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > fault virtual address = 0x0 > fault code = supervisor read, page not present > instruction pointer = 0x8:0x0 > stack pointer = 0x10:0xefbffb48 > frame pointer = 0x10:0xefbffb84 > code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 > processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 > current process = 1304 (install) > interrupt mask = > panic: page fault > > As a side note, is there a way to get this to work with symlinks instead of > NULLFS? > > Attached is my kernel config. The only "odd" thing is that I'm running the > latest dpt drivers for 2.2.5-STABLE (version 1.2.4). This box was installed > using January 22's 2.2.5-STABLE snap, and has never successfully been > updated, due to the above problems. > > Evan There is a bug in nullfs/umapfs or VM (depending on your point of view) which causes the panic you're describing when the mmap() system call is used. I put together a patch (kludge) and submitted it as a PR. This has caused a fair bit of discussion among various develpers and members of the Core Team. Bruce Evans subsequently sent me a patch, however this patch was designed for -current, which is too different in this area of VM to even attempt to retrofit it into -stable. I suspect that -current will fix this problem once the VM rewrite is complete. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 UNIX Support OV/VM: BCSC02(CSCHUBER) ITSD BITNET: CSCHUBER@BCSC02.BITNET Government of BC Internet: cschuber@uumail.gov.bc.ca Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 5 10:54:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05411 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 10:54:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05264; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 10:54:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmb) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199802051854.KAA05264@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: So Are we getting it ;-) In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980204204638.007f1100@the.oneinsane.net> from Ron Rosson at "Feb 4, 98 08:46:38 pm" To: insane@oneinsane.net (Ron Rosson) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 10:54:19 -0800 (PST) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" Ron Rosson wrote: > I am like the others haven't seen a post to stable in quite > sometime until jmb rocked it a little bit. So is something > amiss on hub.freebsd.org or do we have to resub to stable > if we are not getting any post. Again I have to agree with jmb > I have been pretty stable ;-) when we lost the disk on hub we lost a few subscribers..... i sent email to announce asking everyone to verify their subscriptions. please do so, if you have not done so yet. ;) jmb From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 5 10:55:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05610 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 10:55:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05580; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 10:55:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmb) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199802051855.KAA05580@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: reported dead In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980204210234.00a20e70@the.oneinsane.net> from Ron Rosson at "Feb 4, 98 09:02:34 pm" To: insane@oneinsane.net (Ron Rosson) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 10:55:47 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" Ron Rosson wrote: > IMHO, > I think there are gremlins working on hub to get her back to and > beyond to what her capacity was before the drive failure. > yes there are, but please dont feed them after midnight! jmb From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 5 13:49:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03896 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 13:49:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from conductor.synapse.net (conductor.synapse.net [199.84.54.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA03840 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 13:48:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from evanc@synapse.net) Received: (qmail 9871 invoked from network); 5 Feb 1998 21:48:15 -0000 Received: from cello.synapse.net (HELO cello) (199.84.54.81) by conductor.synapse.net with SMTP; 5 Feb 1998 21:48:15 -0000 Message-ID: <00b501bd327f$bfe170a0$2844c00a@cello.synapse.net> From: "Evan Champion" To: "Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group" Cc: Subject: Re: Instant trap on make installworld Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 16:48:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" >There is a bug in nullfs/umapfs or VM (depending on your point of view) >which causes the panic you're describing when the mmap() system call is >used. I put together a patch (kludge) and submitted it as a PR. This >has caused a fair bit of discussion among various develpers and members >of the Core Team. ... and of course, as soon as make installworld resets the libpaths, mmap() gets involved on the nullfs... Ok, given that this bug exists, is there a way I can use links to simulate what I wanted to accomplish with nullfs? The basic problem is that on the client, the tree is mounted as /usr/src and /usr/obj, but on the server it is under /exports. If I try to link /usr/src to /exports/src etc. on the server, make installworld fails because it tries to find the objects then under /exports/obj/exports/src (or something similar) instead of /exports/obj/usr/src, where they would have been written by the client. Obviously, I can hand-link to fix the problem, but are there a set of make options that will allow me to build without tinkering? Evan From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 5 13:51:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04265 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 13:51:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Elie.henoc.qc.ca (Elie.henoc.qc.ca [207.253.72.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA04136 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 13:50:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roger.savard@henoc.qc.ca) Received: from henoc.qc.ca (smtp.henoc.qc.ca [207.253.72.6]) by Elie.henoc.qc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA01493 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 16:50:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34DA341F.4D2F9D11@henoc.qc.ca> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 16:50:23 -0500 From: Roger Savard Organization: Consultation Henoc Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: New to the list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" Hi, What's the difference between the two mailing lists, stable & freebsd-stable ? Thanks --- Roger Consultation Henoc Inc. E-Mail: Roger.Savard@henoc.qc.ca From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 5 14:04:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA07521 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 14:04:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Kitten.mcs.com (Kitten.mcs.com [192.160.127.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07480 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 14:04:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nash@Jupiter.Mcs.Net) Received: from Jupiter.Mcs.Net (nash@Jupiter.mcs.net [192.160.127.88]) by Kitten.mcs.com (8.8.7/8.8.2) with ESMTP id QAA19699; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 16:04:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (nash@localhost) by Jupiter.Mcs.Net (8.8.7/8.8.2) with SMTP id QAA27585; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 16:04:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 16:04:38 -0600 (CST) From: Alex Nash To: Roger Savard cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New to the list In-Reply-To: <34DA341F.4D2F9D11@henoc.qc.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" On Thu, 5 Feb 1998, Roger Savard wrote: > Hi, > > What's the difference between the two mailing lists, stable & > freebsd-stable ? They are one and the same. $ telnet catfish.freebsd.org smtp Trying 204.216.27.22... Connected to catfish.freebsd.org. Escape character is '^]'. 220 catfish.freebsd.org ESMTP Sendmail 8.8.8/8.8.8; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 14:02:07 -0800 (PST) EXPN stable 250 <"|/home/majordomo-1.92/wrapper resend -p bulk -l stable -f FreeBSD-stable-owner -h FreeBSD.ORG stable-outgoing"@catfish.freebsd.org> EXPN freebsd-stable 250 <"|/home/majordomo-1.92/wrapper resend -p bulk -l stable -f FreeBSD-stable-owner -h FreeBSD.ORG stable-outgoing"@catfish.freebsd.org> QUIT 221 catfish.freebsd.org closing connection Connection closed by foreign host. Alex From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 5 14:52:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA16248 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 14:52:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from americantelnet.com ([208.26.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA16179 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 14:51:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from SLong@americantelnet.com) Received: by oasis.americantelnet.com id <131716>; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 17:47:53 -0500 Message-Id: <98Feb5.174753est.131716@oasis.americantelnet.com> From: Stephen Long To: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: Email List Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 17:52:41 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" Please remove me from your email list or provide me with information to go about it myself. I do not wish to be on this list. Thank you. With any regards possible, Stephen P. Long (slong@americantelnet.com) > ---------- > From: Roger Savard[SMTP:roger.savard@henoc.qc.ca] > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 1998 4:50 PM > To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > Subject: New to the list > > Hi, > > What's the difference between the two mailing lists, stable & > freebsd-stable ? > > Thanks > > --- > Roger > > Consultation Henoc Inc. > E-Mail: Roger.Savard@henoc.qc.ca > From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 5 15:53:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA27083 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 15:53:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mx2.cso.uiuc.edu (mx2.cso.uiuc.edu [128.174.5.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA27041 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 15:52:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from igor@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu) Received: from alecto.physics.uiuc.edu (alecto.physics.uiuc.edu [128.174.83.167]) by mx2.cso.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA15322 for <@mailhost.uiuc.edu:freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 17:52:21 -0600 (CST) Received: by alecto.physics.uiuc.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org id RAA17824; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 17:48:59 -0600 From: igor@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu (Igor Roshchin) Message-Id: <199802052348.RAA17824@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu> Subject: problems with pine To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 17:48:59 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" Hello! Sorry, if it's been discussed lately, but I couldn't find this. I am running 2.2.5-Release, and installed pine from the packages. (Computer has 64MB of RAM, and practically no processes running, besides sendmail, named and pop-server) When the user has a huge mailbox (~17M ;) ), pine, after trying to read INBOX, gives up with: Problem detected: "Can't resize free storage". Pine Exiting. Abort (core dumped) Any idea what it can be ? IgoR From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 5 16:25:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05278 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 16:25:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA04790 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 16:23:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.com [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.73 #1) id 0y0bZz-0003XA-00; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 16:23:39 -0800 Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 16:23:36 -0800 (PST) From: Tom To: Igor Roshchin cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problems with pine In-Reply-To: <199802052348.RAA17824@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" On Thu, 5 Feb 1998, Igor Roshchin wrote: > Sorry, if it's been discussed lately, > but I couldn't find this. Users need to have sufficient privledge to use lots of memory. See /etc/login.conf Tom From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 5 16:30:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA07045 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 16:30:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mx3.cso.uiuc.edu (mx3.cso.uiuc.edu [128.174.5.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA07037 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 16:30:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from igor@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu) Received: from alecto.physics.uiuc.edu (alecto.physics.uiuc.edu [128.174.83.167]) by mx3.cso.uiuc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA25320; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 18:28:04 -0600 (CST) Received: by alecto.physics.uiuc.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id SAA18879; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 18:24:41 -0600 From: igor@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu (Igor Roshchin) Message-Id: <199802060024.SAA18879@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: problems with pine To: robert@cyrus.watson.org Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 18:24:40 -0600 (CST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Robert Watson" at Feb 5, 98 07:16:08 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" > > On Thu, 5 Feb 1998, Igor Roshchin wrote: > > > Hello! > > > > Sorry, if it's been discussed lately, > > but I couldn't find this. > > > > I am running 2.2.5-Release, and installed pine from the packages. > > (Computer has 64MB of RAM, and practically no processes running, > > besides sendmail, named and pop-server) > > > > When the user has a huge mailbox (~17M ;) ), pine, > > after trying to read INBOX, gives up with: > > > > Problem detected: "Can't resize free storage". > > Pine Exiting. > > Abort (core dumped) > > > > > > Any idea what it can be ? > > You may be running into process limits -- Pine mmaps the entire mailbox > into memory when not using Imap (plug for the CMU Cyrus Server here) -- > try doing an unlimit first (if using csh/etc; otherwise man limits). > Also, some versions of Pine (in my experience) have problems with large > mailboxes. You will want to check that you are using at least 3.95 -- > preferably 3.96. Given Pine's nasty mmap behavior, Imap is really far > preferable. > THis seems to be helpful... "unlimit" did it work... (version of pine is 3.96) I didn't quite understand what role the Imap would play. (are we talking about the same imap here ? /usr/ports/mail/imap does not seem to be anywhat relevant to the question..) Would please give any references as for - where I can look that up ? Thanks! IgoR From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 5 16:43:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA10220 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 16:43:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fledge.watson.org (root@FLEDGE.RES.CMU.EDU [128.2.91.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10006 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 16:41:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robert@cyrus.watson.org) Received: from luthien.watson.org (luthien.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.42]) by fledge.watson.org (8.8.8/8.6.10) with SMTP id TAA17988; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 19:16:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 19:16:08 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@luthien.watson.org Reply-To: Robert Watson To: Igor Roshchin cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problems with pine In-Reply-To: <199802052348.RAA17824@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" On Thu, 5 Feb 1998, Igor Roshchin wrote: > Hello! > > Sorry, if it's been discussed lately, > but I couldn't find this. > > I am running 2.2.5-Release, and installed pine from the packages. > (Computer has 64MB of RAM, and practically no processes running, > besides sendmail, named and pop-server) > > When the user has a huge mailbox (~17M ;) ), pine, > after trying to read INBOX, gives up with: > > Problem detected: "Can't resize free storage". > Pine Exiting. > Abort (core dumped) > > > Any idea what it can be ? You may be running into process limits -- Pine mmaps the entire mailbox into memory when not using Imap (plug for the CMU Cyrus Server here) -- try doing an unlimit first (if using csh/etc; otherwise man limits). Also, some versions of Pine (in my experience) have problems with large mailboxes. You will want to check that you are using at least 3.95 -- preferably 3.96. Given Pine's nasty mmap behavior, Imap is really far preferable. Does anyone know if pine Kerberos patches are available that work against the FreeBSD port? Robert N Watson Carnegie Mellon University http://www.cmu.edu/ SafePort Network Services http://www.safeport.com/ robert@fledge.watson.org http://www.watson.org/~robert/ From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 5 17:46:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA18691 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 17:46:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (passer.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.110.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA18612 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 17:46:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cy@cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.8/8.6.10) id RAA03147; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 17:39:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca(142.31.240.113), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpdaaabta; Thu Feb 5 17:39:16 1998 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.8.8/8.6.10) id RAA08385; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 17:39:13 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199802060139.RAA08385@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpd008377; Fri Feb 6 01:38:29 1998 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 Reply-to: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: cy To: "Evan Champion" cc: "Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Instant trap on make installworld In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 05 Feb 1998 16:48:09 EST." <00b501bd327f$bfe170a0$2844c00a@cello.synapse.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 17:38:26 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" > >There is a bug in nullfs/umapfs or VM (depending on your point of view) > >which causes the panic you're describing when the mmap() system call is > >used. I put together a patch (kludge) and submitted it as a PR. This > >has caused a fair bit of discussion among various develpers and members > >of the Core Team. > > > ... and of course, as soon as make installworld resets the libpaths, mmap() > gets involved on the nullfs... > > Ok, given that this bug exists, is there a way I can use links to simulate > what I wanted to accomplish with nullfs? The basic problem is that on the > client, the tree is mounted as /usr/src and /usr/obj, but on the server it > is under /exports. > > If I try to link /usr/src to /exports/src etc. on the server, make > installworld fails because it tries to find the objects then under > /exports/obj/exports/src (or something similar) instead of > /exports/obj/usr/src, where they would have been written by the client. > > Obviously, I can hand-link to fix the problem, but are there a set of make > options that will allow me to build without tinkering? > > Evan This patch will fix the nullfs/umapfs divide-by-zero panic. vnode_pager.c is probably not the best place to fix this problem, however the patch suffices until a better fix can be found. --- src/sys/vm/vnode_pager.c.orig2 Sun Dec 7 13:11:03 1997 +++ src/sys/vm/vnode_pager.c Fri Dec 19 06:30:27 1997 @@ -231,10 +231,12 @@ blocksperpage = 0; if (pagesperblock > 0) { reqblock = pindex / pagesperblock; - } else { + } else if (bsize > 0) { blocksperpage = (PAGE_SIZE / bsize); reqblock = pindex * blocksperpage; - } + } else + return FALSE; + err = VOP_BMAP(vp, reqblock, (struct vnode **) 0, &bn, after, before); if (err) Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 UNIX Support OV/VM: BCSC02(CSCHUBER) ITSD BITNET: CSCHUBER@BCSC02.BITNET Government of BC Internet: cschuber@uumail.gov.bc.ca Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 5 17:54:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA20412 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 17:54:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from endeavor.flash.net (endeavor.flash.net [209.30.0.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA20401 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 17:54:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steph8@flash.net) Received: from flash.net (208-194-197-26.flash.net [208.194.197.26]) by endeavor.flash.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA18335; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 19:54:24 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <34DA6A6D.ADA5FDB1@flash.net> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 19:42:06 -0600 From: Stephan Nagy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Igor Roshchin CC: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problems with pine References: <199802052348.RAA17824@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" Igor Roshchin wrote: > Hello! > > Sorry, if it's been discussed lately, > but I couldn't find this. > > I am running 2.2.5-Release, and installed pine from the packages. > (Computer has 64MB of RAM, and practically no processes running, > besides sendmail, named and pop-server) > > When the user has a huge mailbox (~17M ;) ), pine, > after trying to read INBOX, gives up with: > > Problem detected: "Can't resize free storage". > Pine Exiting. > Abort (core dumped) > > Any idea what it can be ? > > IgoR How much swap space do you have? We ran into a problem where when the users mailbox got to full (larger than the available swap space) it would dump the core. you might check that. just a suggestion. -steph From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 5 18:22:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA24886 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 18:22:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA24739; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 18:22:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA07385; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 19:04:31 GMT (envelope-from brian@gate.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199802051904.TAA07385@awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Phil Staub cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPP In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 03 Feb 1998 20:32:21 PST." <199802040432.UAA01493@casa.plan.pixelogix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 19:04:30 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" > Brian: > > A quick (I hope) question re: ppp-980123.src.tar.gz downloaded from > your page. > > Have you disabled the telnet connection in this version? I got a > "connection refused" when I tried to telnet into it on port > 3000. (Yes, I remembered to disable the pppctl socket.) It worked fine > on the version from 2.2.5-STABLE. You have to use `set socket' these days. There's none by default for security reasons. > Thanks, > Phil > -- > Phil Staub, KE7HC Senior Software Engineer > phils@pixelogix.com Audio Precision, Inc. > or phils@audioprecision.com Beaverton, OR 97075, (800) 231-7350 -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 5 20:57:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA26398 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 20:57:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from casa.plan.pixelogix.com (casagate.plan.pixelogix.com [206.129.249.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA26309; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 20:57:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phils@casa.plan.pixelogix.com) Received: (from phils@localhost) by casa.plan.pixelogix.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id UAA04398; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 20:56:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 20:56:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199802060456.UAA04398@casa.plan.pixelogix.com> From: Phil Staub To: brian@Awfulhak.org CC: current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199802051904.TAA07385@awfulhak.org> (message from Brian Somers on Thu, 05 Feb 1998 19:04:30 +0000) Subject: Re: PPP References: <199802051904.TAA07385@awfulhak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" > > A quick (I hope) question re: ppp-980123.src.tar.gz downloaded from > > your page. > > > > Have you disabled the telnet connection in this version? I got a > > "connection refused" when I tried to telnet into it on port > > 3000. (Yes, I remembered to disable the pppctl socket.) It worked fine > > on the version from 2.2.5-STABLE. > > You have to use `set socket' these days. There's none by default for > security reasons. > I suspected as much. I *was* able to get pppctl to work via the socket. However, the references to telnet are still in the man page (although I do seem to recall seeing references to the possibility that telnet may go away at some point.) (Not a complaint, mind you, just thought it deserved to be mentioned.) BTW, thanks for your efforts to update and improve PPP. They are appreciated! -- Phil Staub, KE7HC Senior Software Engineer phils@pixelogix.com Audio Precision, Inc. or phils@audioprecision.com Beaverton, OR 97075, (800) 231-7350 From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 5 21:23:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA00154 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 21:23:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA00137 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 21:23:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@austin.polstra.com) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA03627; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 21:23:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp) Message-Id: <199802060523.VAA03627@austin.polstra.com> To: slong@americantelnet.com Subject: Re: Email List In-Reply-To: <98Feb5.174753est.131716@oasis.americantelnet.com> References: <98Feb5.174753est.131716@oasis.americantelnet.com> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 21:23:08 -0800 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" In article <98Feb5.174753est.131716@oasis.americantelnet.com>, Stephen Long wrote: > Please remove me from your email list or provide me with information to > go about it myself. I do not wish to be on this list. Thank you. As instructed in the headers on every e-mail in the list: X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 5 21:38:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA02601 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 21:38:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.dcfinc.com (freebie.dcfinc.com [138.113.2.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA02573 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 21:37:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chad@freebie.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freebie.dcfinc.com (8.8.3/8.8.3a) id WAA20108 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 22:37:20 -0700 (MST) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <199802060537.WAA20108@freebie.dcfinc.com> Subject: PCMIA ethernet cards To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 22:37:18 -0700 (MST) Reply-to: chad@dcfinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" I'm looking for recommendations on PCMCIA (People Can't Remember Computer Industry Acronyms) ethernet cards. My company has offered to buy me a 3com combo (modem and EtherNet) card for my Toshiba Portoge notebook, but it isn't currently supported by FreeBSD (and I'm uncomfortable about the company buying hardware for a machine I own). I currently have a Practical Peripherials modem card that works just fine. I want to add a card that both Windoze and Freebsd will support for Ethernet access. Anyone doing (modem at home)/(ethernet at work) communications on a FreeBSD notebook? If so, what Ethernet card are you using? -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL22) Brother, can you paradigm? 602-953-1392 chad@dcfinc.com chad@anasazi.com larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254 From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Feb 5 22:05:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA07323 for stable-outgoing; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 22:05:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gringo.cdrom.com (root@ppp-046.tky.exa.co.jp [210.129.93.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA07315 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 22:05:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@gringo.cdrom.com) Received: from gringo.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by gringo.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA00331; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 22:03:47 -0800 (PST) To: chad@dcfinc.com cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCMIA ethernet cards In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 05 Feb 1998 22:37:18 MST." <199802060537.WAA20108@freebie.dcfinc.com> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 1998 22:03:46 -0800 Message-ID: <327.886745026@gringo.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" I'm a great fan of the LINKSYS PCCARD NICs. Mine has been working just peachy for me for awhile, though I'll admit that I haven't managed to get it to work in 10BT mode yet (it's a combo card). Works fine in 10B2 though. I think it's a flaw with the PCCARD support in the ed driver since it doesn't accept the media flags to ifconfig either. Jordan > I'm looking for recommendations on PCMCIA (People Can't Remember Computer > Industry Acronyms) ethernet cards. My company has offered to buy me a > 3com combo (modem and EtherNet) card for my Toshiba Portoge notebook, > but it isn't currently supported by FreeBSD (and I'm uncomfortable about > the company buying hardware for a machine I own). I currently have a > Practical Peripherials modem card that works just fine. I want to add a > card that both Windoze and Freebsd will support for Ethernet access. > > Anyone doing (modem at home)/(ethernet at work) communications on a > FreeBSD notebook? If so, what Ethernet card are you using? > > -crl > -- > Chad R. Larson (CRL22) Brother, can you paradigm? > 602-953-1392 chad@dcfinc.com chad@anasazi.com larson1@home.com > DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254 > From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 6 02:51:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA16248 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 02:51:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ricardis.ricardis.tudelft.nl (root@ricardis.ricardis.tudelft.nl [130.161.58.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA16236 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 02:50:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stef@ricardis.tudelft.nl) Received: from simba.ricardis.tudelft.nl (simba.ricardis.tudelft.nl [130.161.58.44]) by ricardis.ricardis.tudelft.nl (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA21338 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 11:50:21 +0100 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 11:50:19 +0100 Message-ID: <01BD32F5.661265E0.stef@ricardis.tudelft.nl> From: Stef To: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 11:49:12 +0100 Organization: Simba X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet-e-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" Groetjes van de S. , ---------------------------------------------- AIBOHPHOBIA - the fear of palindromes. From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 6 04:56:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA03192 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 04:56:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ricardis.ricardis.tudelft.nl (root@ricardis.ricardis.tudelft.nl [130.161.58.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA03163 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 04:56:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stef@ricardis.tudelft.nl) Received: from simba.ricardis.tudelft.nl (simba.ricardis.tudelft.nl [130.161.58.44]) by ricardis.ricardis.tudelft.nl (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA23095 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 13:56:10 +0100 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 13:56:09 +0100 Message-ID: <01BD3306.FA5A8AA0.stef@ricardis.tudelft.nl> From: Stef To: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 11:50:33 +0100 Organization: Simba X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet-e-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" subscribe freebsd-stable From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 6 06:45:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA21117 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 06:45:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from versa.eng.comsat.com (root@versa.eng.comsat.com [134.133.169.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA21109; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 06:45:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marc@versa.eng.comsat.com) Received: (from marc@localhost) by versa.eng.comsat.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id JAA07866; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 09:44:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 09:44:35 -0500 (EST) From: Marc Giannoni Message-Id: <199802061444.JAA07866@versa.eng.comsat.com> To: brian@Awfulhak.org, phils@casagate.plan.pixelogix.com Subject: Re: PPP Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" Pardon: Uhh...i i'm having the same problem myself. i cant seem to get 'allow users' to do anything in 'ppp.conf'. I really feel clueless, i miss using port 3000 to hang up the phone! is there a sample 'ppp.conf' around with this in it? marc From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 6 09:26:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA15935 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 09:26:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from quack.kfu.com (e4gQ08JMNP6Hd2qlFJebtYnl29Bbi8bN@quack.kfu.com [204.147.226.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA15928 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 09:26:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Received: (from nsayer@localhost) by quack.kfu.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id IAA22782 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 08:57:37 -0800 (PST) From: Nick Sayer Message-Id: <199802061657.IAA22782@quack.kfu.com> Subject: Re: PCMIA ethernet cards In-Reply-To: <327.886745026@gringo.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Feb 5, 98 10:03:46 pm" To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 08:57:37 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" I think there's nothing better than the 3c589 series. Don't buy a combo card, though. It's more trouble than it's worth to deal with the different functions. -- echo afnlre@dhnpx.xsh.pbz |\ : "...That whenever any form of Government tr 'a-z' 'n-za-m' : becomes destructive of these ends, it is or remove nospam in From: line : the Right of the People to alter or to http://www.kfu.com/~nsayer/ : abolish it..." From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 6 09:40:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17843 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 09:40:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from jmb@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17732; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 09:39:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jmb) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Message-Id: <199802061739.JAA17732@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: PCMIA ethernet cards In-Reply-To: <327.886745026@gringo.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Feb 5, 98 10:03:46 pm" To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 09:39:56 -0800 (PST) Cc: chad@dcfinc.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > I'm a great fan of the LINKSYS PCCARD NICs. Mine has been working > just peachy for me for awhile, though I'll admit that I haven't managed > to get it to work in 10BT mode yet (it's a combo card). Works fine > in 10B2 though. I think it's a flaw with the PCCARD support in the ed > driver since it doesn't accept the media flags to ifconfig either. > > Jordan ???? i have the Linksys "Combo PCMCIA EthernetCard (EC2T)" "Versions = 4.1" "Addit. info = [2.0]" i only use it as 10baset, works great. no flags needed. FreeBSD-current is the OS. are you using stable? jmb > > > I'm looking for recommendations on PCMCIA (People Can't Remember Computer > > Industry Acronyms) ethernet cards. My company has offered to buy me a > > 3com combo (modem and EtherNet) card for my Toshiba Portoge notebook, > > but it isn't currently supported by FreeBSD (and I'm uncomfortable about > > the company buying hardware for a machine I own). I currently have a > > Practical Peripherials modem card that works just fine. I want to add a > > card that both Windoze and Freebsd will support for Ethernet access. > > > > Anyone doing (modem at home)/(ethernet at work) communications on a > > FreeBSD notebook? If so, what Ethernet card are you using? > > > > -crl > > -- > > Chad R. Larson (CRL22) Brother, can you paradigm? > > 602-953-1392 chad@dcfinc.com chad@anasazi.com larson1@home.com > > DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254 > > > > From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 6 09:47:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA19385 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 09:47:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA19374 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 09:47:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@austin.polstra.com) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA07579; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 09:47:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp) Message-Id: <199802061747.JAA07579@austin.polstra.com> To: jkh@time.cdrom.com Subject: Re: PCMIA ethernet cards In-Reply-To: <327.886745026@gringo.cdrom.com> References: <327.886745026@gringo.cdrom.com> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 09:46:59 -0800 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" In article <327.886745026@gringo.cdrom.com>, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > I'm a great fan of the LINKSYS PCCARD NICs. Mine has been working > just peachy for me for awhile, though I'll admit that I haven't managed > to get it to work in 10BT mode yet (it's a combo card). Works fine > in 10B2 though. The only way I know of to change the media selection on this card is (*gag*) to boot up Windows 95 and run the "media.exe" program that comes with the card. They call it an "auto-detecting" card, but clearly the "auto" part of it is nowhere but in the driver. If you change the media, it sticks even through power-off. > I think it's a flaw with the PCCARD support in the ed driver since it > doesn't accept the media flags to ifconfig either. The problem is most likely that nobody on the project knows how to tell the card to change its media selection. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 6 11:52:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12614 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 11:52:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12604 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 11:52:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA00567; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 06:14:21 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199802071414.GAA00567@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: chad@dcfinc.com cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCMIA ethernet cards In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 05 Feb 1998 22:37:18 MST." <199802060537.WAA20108@freebie.dcfinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:14:19 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" > Anyone doing (modem at home)/(ethernet at work) communications on a > FreeBSD notebook? If so, what Ethernet card are you using? Lots of people swear by the 3com 3c589. I generally swear *at* them, partly because they're hideously expensive, and partly because they cause about 90% of our support grief. Personally, I would recommend going with an NE2000-compatible card from someone like Danpex or Accton. Don't buy an SVEC card, as they appear to be extremely non-NE2000 compatible (lock-your-machine-solid non-compatible, in fact). There are other, similar cards that people have had good results with. Expect to pay maybe $70-100 for one of these. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 6 11:54:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12892 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 11:54:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12847 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 11:54:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA00584; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 06:15:29 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199802071415.GAA00584@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: chad@dcfinc.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCMIA ethernet cards In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 05 Feb 1998 22:03:46 PST." <327.886745026@gringo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:15:29 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" > I'm a great fan of the LINKSYS PCCARD NICs. Mine has been working > just peachy for me for awhile, though I'll admit that I haven't managed > to get it to work in 10BT mode yet (it's a combo card). Works fine > in 10B2 though. I think it's a flaw with the PCCARD support in the ed > driver since it doesn't accept the media flags to ifconfig either. *none* of the NE2000 pccards that I have met require any media selection switching; they've all been automatic. You can't supply media flags to an NE2000 card because there is no standard for media switching. 8) -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 6 13:14:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01046 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 13:14:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA00883 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 13:13:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA00944; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 07:35:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199802071535.HAA00944@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Nick Sayer cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCMIA ethernet cards In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 06 Feb 1998 08:57:37 PST." <199802061657.IAA22782@quack.kfu.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 07:35:42 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" > I think there's nothing better than the 3c589 series. Don't buy a combo > card, though. It's more trouble than it's worth to deal with the > different functions. I have to stand against that. The NE2000's are faster. 8) -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 6 13:52:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07930 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 13:52:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail001.mediacity.com (mail001.mediacity.com [205.216.172.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA07863 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 13:52:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nicole@mediacity.com) Received: (qmail 14532 invoked from network); 6 Feb 1998 21:50:30 -0000 Received: from geekgirl.mediacity.com (HELO geekgirl) (208.138.36.25) by mail001.mediacity.com with SMTP; 6 Feb 1998 21:50:30 -0000 Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 13:52:03 -0800 From: Nicole Harrington Subject: Re: PCMIA ethernet cards To: Mike Smith , Nick Sayer Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: Z-Mail Pro 6.2 (Win32 - 021297) Evaluation Copy, NetManage Inc.[ZM62_16E] X-Face: Dy;P!H@)Go.{^Epw&,}@q4ReQ3iOqFrASM63QjFsK/'XnOO67}+{szQ|oo]]`]/.r,g5lx; w+F^YYL4j Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" > > I think there's nothing better than the 3c589 series. Don't buy a combo > > card, though. It's more trouble than it's worth to deal with the > > different functions. > > I have to stand against that. The NE2000's are faster. 8) I personaly love the 3com 3c905 cards. I always heard to stay away from the ne2000 cards as they required attention from the CPU much more than others. Nicole Nicole Harrington |\ __ /| (`\ http://www.mediacity.com nicole@mediacity.com | o_o |__ ) ) Phone: 415-237-1464 nicole@iadmin.net // \\ Pager: 415-301-2482 Systems Administrator ----------------------(((---(((--------------------------------- ******* * * What do you mean Spelling Errors? * * My Modem is Error Correcting! * -- Isn't it a bit unnerving that doctors call what they do practice -- Why isn't there mouse-flavored cat food? -- Microsoft: What bug would you like today? ------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 6 14:07:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA10436 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 14:07:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from awfulhak.org (awfulhak.demon.co.uk [158.152.17.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10280; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 14:05:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from gate.lan.awfulhak.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by awfulhak.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA25715; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 21:25:48 GMT (envelope-from brian@gate.lan.awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199802062125.VAA25715@awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Marc Giannoni cc: brian@Awfulhak.org, phils@casagate.plan.pixelogix.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPP In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 06 Feb 1998 09:44:35 EST." <199802061444.JAA07866@versa.eng.comsat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 21:25:47 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" > Pardon: > > Uhh...i > i'm having the same problem myself. i cant seem to get 'allow users' to do > anything in 'ppp.conf'. I really feel clueless, i miss using port 3000 > to hang up the phone! is there a sample 'ppp.conf' around with this in it? > marc There are examples in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf.sample. Just ``allow users *'' and ``set server 3000 ""'' in the default section and it'll be the same as in the old days. -- Brian , , Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour.... From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 6 14:44:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA15027 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 14:44:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fledge.watson.org (root@FLEDGE.RES.CMU.EDU [128.2.91.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA15016 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 14:44:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robert@cyrus.watson.org) Received: from trojanhorse.pr.watson.org (trojanhorse.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.10]) by fledge.watson.org (8.8.8/8.6.10) with SMTP id RAA03990; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 17:43:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 17:43:40 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@trojanhorse.pr.watson.org Reply-To: Robert Watson To: Igor Roshchin cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problems with pine In-Reply-To: <199802060024.SAA18879@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" On Thu, 5 Feb 1998, Igor Roshchin wrote: > I didn't quite understand what role the Imap would play. > (are we talking about the same imap here ? /usr/ports/mail/imap > does not seem to be anywhat relevant to the question..) > Would please give any references as for - where I can look that up ? I realized I forgot to give a reference in my response -- try http://andrew2.andrew.cmu.edu/ and look for information on the Cyrus mail project. Robert N Watson Carnegie Mellon University http://www.cmu.edu/ SafePort Network Services http://www.safeport.com/ robert@fledge.watson.org http://www.watson.org/~robert/ From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 6 16:30:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA28827 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 16:30:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from luke.cpl.net (luke.cpl.net [209.150.73.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28757 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 16:29:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shawn@luke.cpl.net) Received: from localhost (shawn@localhost) by luke.cpl.net (8.8.8/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA01137 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 16:28:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 1998 16:28:50 -0800 (PST) From: Shawn Ramsey To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: compile error Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" I am getting the following error on a make world with 2_2_RELENG if test -d /disk2/usr/src/include.i386; then echo "===> include.i386"; edir=in clude.i386; cd /disk2/usr/src/${edir}; else echo "===> include"; edir=includ e; cd /disk2/usr/src/${edir}; fi; /usr/obj/disk2/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make cle andir DIRPRFX=${edir}/ ===> include.i386 cd: can't cd to /disk2/usr/src/include.i386 *** Error code 2 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. /usr/src is a symbolic link to /disk/usr/src. I don't think that has anything to do with this... after this happened, I also tried re-cvsup'ing the entire source tree. Same results. Any ideas how to fix this? Thanks. From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 6 16:47:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA02372 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 16:47:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gringo.cdrom.com (root@ppp-050.tky.exa.co.jp [210.129.93.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA02366 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 16:47:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@gringo.cdrom.com) Received: from gringo.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by gringo.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00326; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 16:46:46 -0800 (PST) To: Mike Smith cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , chad@dcfinc.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCMIA ethernet cards In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 07 Feb 1998 06:15:29 PST." <199802071415.GAA00584@dingo.cdrom.com> Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 16:46:46 -0800 Message-ID: <323.886812406@gringo.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" > *none* of the NE2000 pccards that I have met require any media > selection switching; they've all been automatic. I had no such luck. We couldn't even get the link light on the hub to go on, and the card had both TX and RX lights continuously illuminated, indicating a major malfunction (to use a little challenger-speak). Jordan From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 6 17:49:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA12364 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 17:49:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from serv05.slac.stanford.edu (SERV05.SLAC.Stanford.EDU [134.79.16.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA12344 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 17:48:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from masuda@SLAC.Stanford.EDU) Received: from 134.79.130.94 ("port 1387"@[134.79.130.94]) by SERV05.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (PMDF V5.1-10 #23033) with SMTP id <01IT9NYNOWAI001KRC@SERV05.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 17:48:57 PST Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 17:50:10 -0800 From: Hiroaki Masuda Subject: subscribe To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-to: masuda@SLAC.Stanford.EDU Message-id: <34DBBDD2.52DF@slac.stanford.edu> X-Envelope-to: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; U; 68K) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 6 21:03:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA10555 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 21:03:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.ptd.net (srv1-95.ptd.net [204.186.95.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA10546 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 21:02:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nickf@ptd.net) Received: (qmail 12886 invoked from network); 7 Feb 1998 05:02:41 -0000 Received: from cs5-4.pot.ptd.net (HELO ranger.nick.net) (204.186.34.68) by srv1-95.ptd.net with SMTP; 7 Feb 1998 05:02:41 -0000 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 00:02:42 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD335B.B6304860.nickf@ptd.net> From: Nick Folino To: "'FreeBSD-Stable'" Subject: cvsupd install problems Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 00:02:39 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" I'm trying to install cvsupd on one of my fbsd servers. Problem is modula always bombs during the compile. >From searching the mailing list archive I found it's looking for libXaw.*. My question...what if I'm not running X? Is there anyway to get those libraries without installing X? --------------------------------------------------------------- I am the Nickhead nickf@ptd.net --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 6 21:20:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA13767 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 21:20:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from otto.globalserve.net (otto.globalserve.net [209.90.144.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA13757 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 21:20:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from philipp@globalserve.net) Received: from localhost (philipp@localhost) by otto.globalserve.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA04578; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 00:21:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 00:21:53 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Philipp To: Nick Folino cc: "'FreeBSD-Stable'" Subject: Re: cvsupd install problems In-Reply-To: <01BD335B.B6304860.nickf@ptd.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" I have found it to be a nuisance when I don't want to use X for cvsup and it needs those modula libraries. Anythign that depends on such a library should be X interfaced only. IMO. Your workaround is to get those libraries and stick them in /usr/local/lib or something and then add them with ldconfig would one way of doing it I guess. Peter On Sat, 7 Feb 1998, Nick Folino wrote: > I'm trying to install cvsupd on one of my fbsd servers. Problem is modula always bombs during the compile. > >From searching the mailing list archive I found it's looking for libXaw.*. My question...what if I'm not running X? > Is there anyway to get those libraries without installing X? > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > I am the Nickhead nickf@ptd.net > --------------------------------------------------------------- > From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 6 21:31:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA15302 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 21:31:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA15207 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 21:31:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA03816; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 21:29:58 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199802070529.VAA03816@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Peter Philipp cc: Nick Folino , "'FreeBSD-Stable'" Subject: Re: cvsupd install problems In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 07 Feb 1998 00:21:53 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 06 Feb 1998 21:29:57 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" > I have found it to be a nuisance when I don't want to use X for cvsup and > it needs those modula libraries. Anythign that depends on such a library > should be X interfaced only. IMO. Have you ever considered, any of you, that CVSup is available in package form? And that the "CVSUP-nogui" package just might not actually require these libraries? Or do you just assume that the author and everyone else that's ever looked at the source are snobbish bastards with overspecified systems? 8) -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Feb 6 21:40:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA16776 for stable-outgoing; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 21:40:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from otto.globalserve.net (otto.globalserve.net [209.90.144.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA16740 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 1998 21:40:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from philipp@globalserve.net) Received: from localhost (philipp@localhost) by otto.globalserve.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA05184; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 00:41:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 00:41:54 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Philipp To: Mike Smith cc: "'FreeBSD-Stable'" Subject: Re: cvsupd install problems In-Reply-To: <199802070529.VAA03816@dingo.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" who bothers getting packages when you can get the source and look at it when you get the time?! :) Peter On Fri, 6 Feb 1998, Mike Smith wrote: > Have you ever considered, any of you, that CVSup is available in > package form? And that the "CVSUP-nogui" package just might not > actually require these libraries? > > Or do you just assume that the author and everyone else that's ever > looked at the source are snobbish bastards with overspecified systems? From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 7 07:39:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA19637 for stable-outgoing; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 07:39:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA19625 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 07:39:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@austin.polstra.com) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA16931; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 07:39:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp) Message-Id: <199802071539.HAA16931@austin.polstra.com> To: philipp@globalserve.net Subject: Re: cvsupd install problems In-Reply-To: References: Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 07:39:26 -0800 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" In article , Peter Philipp wrote: > I have found it to be a nuisance when I don't want to use X for cvsup and > it needs those modula libraries. Anythign that depends on such a library > should be X interfaced only. IMO. It's all too easy to declare how things "should" be. When can I expect to receive your patches? -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 7 07:48:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA20914 for stable-outgoing; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 07:48:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.ptd.net (srv1-95.ptd.net [204.186.95.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA20795 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 07:47:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nickf@ptd.net) Received: (qmail 15523 invoked from network); 7 Feb 1998 15:47:33 -0000 Received: from cs5-7.pot.ptd.net (HELO ranger.nick.net) (204.186.34.71) by srv1-95.ptd.net with SMTP; 7 Feb 1998 15:47:33 -0000 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 10:47:32 -0500 Message-ID: <01BD33B5.CB22E200.nickf@ptd.net> From: Nick Folino To: "'FreeBSD-Stable'" Subject: RE: cvsupd install problems Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 00:38:29 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" Is cvsupd available in binary form? I've already installed the no-gui cvsup....but that's not what my question is about. --------------------------------------------------------------- I am the Nickhead nickf@ptd.net --------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Mike Smith [SMTP:mike@smith.net.au] Sent: Saturday, February 07, 1998 12:30 AM To: Peter Philipp Cc: Nick Folino; 'FreeBSD-Stable' Subject: Re: cvsupd install problems > I have found it to be a nuisance when I don't want to use X for cvsup and > it needs those modula libraries. Anythign that depends on such a library > should be X interfaced only. IMO. Have you ever considered, any of you, that CVSup is available in package form? And that the "CVSUP-nogui" package just might not actually require these libraries? Or do you just assume that the author and everyone else that's ever looked at the source are snobbish bastards with overspecified systems? 8) -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 7 09:45:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA06737 for stable-outgoing; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 09:45:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06728 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 09:44:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@austin.polstra.com) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17603; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 09:42:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp) Message-Id: <199802071742.JAA17603@austin.polstra.com> To: nickf@ptd.net Subject: Re: cvsupd install problems In-Reply-To: <01BD33B5.CB22E200.nickf@ptd.net> References: <01BD33B5.CB22E200.nickf@ptd.net> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 09:42:16 -0800 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" In article <01BD33B5.CB22E200.nickf@ptd.net>, Nick Folino wrote: > Is cvsupd available in binary form? Yes, it's at: ftp://hub.FreeBSD.org/pub/CVSup/cvsupd-bin-15.2.tar.gz -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 7 09:46:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA07054 for stable-outgoing; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 09:46:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA07002 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 09:45:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@austin.polstra.com) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17641; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 09:45:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp) Message-Id: <199802071745.JAA17641@austin.polstra.com> To: jkh@time.cdrom.com Subject: Re: PCMIA ethernet cards In-Reply-To: <323.886812406@gringo.cdrom.com> References: <323.886812406@gringo.cdrom.com> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 09:45:49 -0800 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" In article <323.886812406@gringo.cdrom.com>, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > I had no such luck. We couldn't even get the link light on the hub to > go on, and the card had both TX and RX lights continuously > illuminated, indicating a major malfunction (to use a little > challenger-speak). You're still talking about the LinkSys card, right? It's normal for both those lights to be on. Tx doubles as "power-on". It blinks _off_ when transmitting. Rx doubles as "link". It blinks off when receiving. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 7 10:05:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA09472 for stable-outgoing; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 10:05:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercury.acs.unt.edu (mercury.acs.unt.edu [129.120.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA09461 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 10:05:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john@www.cas.unt.edu) Received: from www.cas.unt.edu (www.cas.unt.edu [129.120.3.150]) by mercury.acs.unt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20396; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 12:05:01 -0600 (CST) Received: (from john@localhost) by www.cas.unt.edu (8.8.7/8.6.9) id MAA28769; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 12:03:59 -0600 (CST) From: john Message-Id: <199802071803.MAA28769@www.cas.unt.edu> Subject: Re: cvsupd install problems In-Reply-To: <199802071539.HAA16931@austin.polstra.com> from John Polstra at "Feb 7, 98 07:39:26 am" To: jdp@polstra.com (John Polstra) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 1998 12:03:59 -0600 (CST) Cc: philipp@globalserver.net, stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" > In article , > Peter Philipp wrote: > > > I have found it to be a nuisance when I don't want to use X for cvsup and Doing a man on cvsup shows this as one of the options. Guess what, it works. -g Disables the use of the graphical user interface. This op- tion is implied if the DISPLAY environment variable is not set. From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 7 13:01:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA00744 for stable-outgoing; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 13:01:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA00738 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 13:01:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA11576; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 13:01:49 -0800 (PST) To: Peter Philipp cc: Nick Folino , "'FreeBSD-Stable'" Subject: Re: cvsupd install problems In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 07 Feb 1998 00:21:53 EST." Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 13:01:49 -0800 Message-ID: <11572.886885309@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" > I have found it to be a nuisance when I don't want to use X for cvsup and > it needs those modula libraries. Anythign that depends on such a library > should be X interfaced only. IMO. I have no idea why people continue to labor under this misapprehension when the *static* binaries have been availble for so long now. :-( Jordan From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 7 13:21:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03759 for stable-outgoing; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 13:21:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from Elie.henoc.qc.ca (Elie.henoc.qc.ca [207.253.72.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03711 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 13:21:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roger.savard@henoc.qc.ca) Received: from henoc.qc.ca (smtp.henoc.qc.ca [207.253.72.6]) by Elie.henoc.qc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05924 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 16:21:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34DCD04B.6A2BF1A@henoc.qc.ca> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 16:21:15 -0500 From: Roger Savard Organization: Consultation Henoc Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Compile error Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" Hi, After cvsup I get the following: # cd /usr/src # make most -------------------------------------------------------------- Building programs only -------------------------------------------------------------- cd /usr/src/bin && make -m /usr/src/share/mk all ===> cat Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/src/bin/cat ===> chio Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/src/bin/chio ===> chmod Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/src/bin/chmod ===> cp Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/src/bin/cp ===> csh Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/src/bin/csh ===> date Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/src/bin/date cc -O2 -m486 -pipe -Wall -static -o date date.o netdate.o vary.o -lutil date.o: Undefined symbol `_strptime' referenced from text segment *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. # cd /usr/src/bin/date # make Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/src/bin/date cc -O2 -m486 -pipe -Wall -static -o date date.o netdate.o vary.o -lutil date.o: Undefined symbol `_strptime' referenced from text segment *** Error code 1 Stop. # cd /usr/ports/www/apache # make ===> apache-1.2.5 : You have an old tcl installation on your machine. Remove everything that matches /usr/local/*/*tcl* first. Any ideas? -- Roger Consultation Henoc Inc. E-Mail: Roger.Savard@henoc.qc.ca From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 7 13:25:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04914 for stable-outgoing; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 13:25:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA04875 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 13:25:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA12234; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 13:25:51 -0800 (PST) To: John Polstra cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCMIA ethernet cards In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 07 Feb 1998 09:45:49 PST." <199802071745.JAA17641@austin.polstra.com> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 13:25:51 -0800 Message-ID: <12231.886886751@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" Is it normal for the hub's link light not to come on though? ;-) > In article <323.886812406@gringo.cdrom.com>, > Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > I had no such luck. We couldn't even get the link light on the hub to > > go on, and the card had both TX and RX lights continuously > > illuminated, indicating a major malfunction (to use a little > > challenger-speak). > > You're still talking about the LinkSys card, right? It's normal for > both those lights to be on. Tx doubles as "power-on". It blinks > _off_ when transmitting. Rx doubles as "link". It blinks off when > receiving. > > John > -- > John Polstra jdp@polstra.com > John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA > "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Feb 7 13:28:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05621 for stable-outgoing; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 13:28:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05615 for ; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 13:28:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@austin.polstra.com) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA18751; Sat, 7 Feb 1998 13:28:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp) Message-Id: <199802072128.NAA18751@austin.polstra.com> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCMIA ethernet cards In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 07 Feb 1998 13:25:51 PST." <12231.886886751@time.cdrom.com> Date: Sat, 07 Feb 1998 13:28:34 -0800 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe stable" > Is it normal for the hub's link light not to come on though? ;-) Sure, that's a special LinkSys feature. Link light off means the link is present. When you lose the link, the light goes on. Just kidding, just kidding. :-) John