From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 20 01:54:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA12231 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 01:54:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA12215 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 01:54:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id JAA29811; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 09:04:29 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199809200704.JAA29811@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: NATD/IPFW brokennes reports... To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 09:04:28 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: spam@distance.net, mike@sentex.net X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There have been some reports on natd/ipfw/fxp not working anymore on -stable after the dummynet commit: > > Something is defiantly broke with the latest source regarding NATD and > >IPFW, I took my old source from Aug 18, 98 and rebuilt my system. NATD / > >IPFW work fine. I did not have a chance to try any other cards, I just > >have the Intel 10/100 Etherexpress NIC, I doubt there is a problem with > >fxp driver though because everything else works fine. If someone has the ... > I think I am seeing the same problem... A machine I was putting together > did not come up after I rebuilt it with a new kernel... I did a fresh I have been trying to reproduce the problem myself, but i think i am not seeing problems (i don't have access to an "fxp" card though). Let me say first that this is the first time i used divert myself, so i might have done something unusual in the configuration. In any case, this is what i have and it seems to work fine: The configuration i used is the following [ prova ]---------[ rizzo ]-| rest of the net. Significant machine config info is the following. prova: ed2 is 10.0.0.236/8 default route to 10.0.0.26 (Note 1) rizzo: de0 is 10.0.0.26/8 ed3 is 131.114.9.26 net.inet.ip.forwarding=1 net.link.ether.inet.proxyall=0 default route to interface ed3 ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via ed3 natd -v -n ed3 /etc/services contains natd 6678/divert /etc/protocols contains divert 254 DIVERT Note 1: it seems to be critical thay you set the default route to the natd box address (i.e. route add default 10.0.0.26) and NOT to the interface (i.e route add default -interface ed2) In the second case (seen using tcpdump on "prova") the first thing that goes out is an arp request for the dest. address, and that one remains unanswered (maybe setting proxy arp on the natd box can fix things) because ARP are not IP packets and are not diverted... with this setting there appear to be no problems (and as a matter of fact i am working through this natd machine at the moment). So... i don't know what to say: the above pretty much confines the problem (if any) to the if_fxp driver, or to the ARP handling (i did have a small change to that as well but it goes in only if you have "option BRIDGE" in your kernel config), or to some difference in configuration between what i use and what other people has... I suggest people interested in tracking the problem to check with tcpdump on the unregistered segment what really goes onto the wire. Also, if possible, try the same config with an "fxp" and another (e.g. "ed" or "de") card to help identifying if the problem is card-related. thanks luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 20 03:41:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA28296 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 03:41:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt053nb4.san.rr.com (dt053nb4.san.rr.com [204.210.34.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA28164 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 03:40:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Received: from dal.net (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt053nb4.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA00994; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 03:40:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Message-ID: <3604DB82.418834FA@dal.net> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 03:40:02 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE-0918 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Luigi Rizzo CC: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: is NATD / IPFW broke? References: <199809200503.HAA29704@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > > Stable, > > > > Something is defiantly broke with the latest source regarding NATD and > > i am going to look at the problem this morning. While you're at it, IPFW on my fully up to date -Stable system is not logging all the packets it should be. I haven't found a pattern to the ones it doesn't log. This is with a configuration that's always worked in the past. Good luck, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 20 03:50:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA00258 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 03:50:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA29957 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 03:49:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id LAA29934; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 11:00:08 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199809200900.LAA29934@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: is NATD / IPFW broke? To: Studded@dal.net (Studded) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 11:00:08 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3604DB82.418834FA@dal.net> from "Studded" at Sep 20, 98 03:39:43 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > While you're at it, IPFW on my fully up to date -Stable system is not > logging all the packets it should be. I haven't found a pattern to the > ones it doesn't log. This is with a configuration that's always worked > in the past. what do you expect me to do with this kind of bug report ? it is too vague to let me do anything... i need at least one case to reproduce the problem. (there _is_ in fact one subtle diffetence, that i am fixing, in the ipfw behaviour: if you SKIPTO a non existant rule, the default behaviour was to go to the next one whereas with my mods i jump to the default rule. I used an == instead of >= in one test...) are you hitting that case by chance ? cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 20 04:08:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA04331 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 04:08:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt053nb4.san.rr.com (dt053nb4.san.rr.com [204.210.34.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA04241 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 04:07:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Received: from dal.net (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt053nb4.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA02366; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 04:07:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Message-ID: <3604E1E4.13B1F3AB@dal.net> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 04:07:17 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE-0918 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Luigi Rizzo CC: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: is NATD / IPFW broke? References: <199809200900.LAA29934@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > > While you're at it, IPFW on my fully up to date -Stable system is not > > logging all the packets it should be. I haven't found a pattern to the > > ones it doesn't log. This is with a configuration that's always worked > > in the past. > > what do you expect me to do with this kind of bug report ? > it is too vague to let me do anything... Yeah, royal pain in the ass isn't it? If I had more detail I'd include it. After two hours of trying various things I don't HAVE any more detail. I started to take a look at some of the changes you made, but there are too many changes in too many files for me to even make an intelligent guess at what it could be. > i need at least one case to > reproduce the problem. ipfw add 1 allow log ip from any to any > (there _is_ in fact one subtle diffetence, that i am fixing, in the > ipfw behaviour: if you SKIPTO a non existant rule, the default > behaviour was to go to the next one whereas with my mods i jump to the > default rule. I used an == instead of >= in one test...) I don't use skipto. Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 20 06:26:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA24398 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 06:26:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA24204 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 06:25:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from arnout@tomcat.xs4all.nl) Received: from tomcat.xs4all.nl (tomcat.xs4all.nl [194.109.15.187]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18878 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:25:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from arnout@localhost) by tomcat.xs4all.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA01131; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 13:56:57 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19980920135656.36867@xs4all.nl> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 13:56:56 +0200 From: Arnout Boer To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Star Office 5 on FreeBSD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, For some of my work and study related stuff I get lots of attachments in Office 97. Star Office 5 should handle that correctly! So.. anybody experience with getting the beta to work on FreeBSD hate to leave BSD to Linux just because of some software issues. Greetz, Arnout To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 20 07:00:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA28723 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 07:00:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from aniwa.sky (pppk-19.igrin.co.nz [202.49.245.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA28702 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 07:00:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@squiz.co.nz) Received: from localhost (andrew@localhost) by aniwa.sky (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA06477; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 01:59:53 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from andrew@squiz.co.nz) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 01:59:53 +1200 (NZST) From: Andrew McNaughton X-Sender: andrew@aniwa.sky Reply-To: andrew@squiz.co.nz To: Arnout Boer cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Star Office 5 on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <19980920135656.36867@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 20 Sep 1998, Arnout Boer wrote: > For some of my work and study related stuff I get lots > of attachments in Office 97. > Star Office 5 should handle that correctly! > So.. anybody experience with getting the beta to work on FreeBSD > hate to leave BSD to Linux just because of some software > issues. www.cdrom.com is advertising a soon to be released port of using Applixware to FreeBSD. Does anyone have experience with Applixware on other platforms, or know anything about the port? I'm a bit wary of buying it too early in case of bugs, and it sounds pretty resource intensive, but the discussion on the redhat applix list seems like many people prefer it to Star Office. Any info / experiences? Andrew McNaughton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 20 10:18:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA27665 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 10:18:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tetrahome.tetranet.net (tetranet.net [206.42.249.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27645 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 10:18:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fee@tetrahome.tetranet.net) Received: (from fee@localhost) by tetrahome.tetranet.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id MAA28268; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 12:16:35 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 12:16:35 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Murdock To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Natd problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Perhaps someone can help me straighten this problem out. I just cvsup'd the stable source last night and ran a "make buildworld" and "make installworld" on my system. I brought a couple of my /etc files up to date from /usr/src/etc. I seem to be having problems with my natd diverting now. Previously, I had a network of 10.0.0.0/8 machines that used my freeBSD machine as a gateway to the internet. Everything worked fine. Now, after remaking the OS, it seems that IP packets are getting to my BSD machine on the ethernet interface, being translated and sent out the PPP interface, and are even being returned to the PPP interface, but never making it back to the machines on my local network. All of my configuration files have stayed the same. Has anything changed drastically in respect to natd/ipfw? I verified the ipfw rules, and my natd.conf file. It is the identical setup that I had before the remake. Any ideas? Mark Murdock fee@tetranet.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 20 10:19:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA27979 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 10:19:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from xfiles.org.uk (fox.pipex.net [158.43.140.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA27939 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 10:19:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from benhutch@lonegunman.xfiles.org.uk) Received: (qmail 8082 invoked from network); 20 Sep 1998 17:19:07 -0000 Received: from lonegunman.xfiles.org.uk (194.200.230.242) by quantico.xfiles.org.uk with SMTP; 20 Sep 1998 17:19:07 -0000 Received: (from benhutch@localhost) by lonegunman.xfiles.org.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA22084 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 18:19:11 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from benhutch) Message-ID: <19980920181911.B21185@xfiles.org.uk> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 18:19:11 +0100 From: Ben Hutchinson To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Star Office 5 on FreeBSD References: <19980920135656.36867@xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Andrew McNaughton on Mon, Sep 21, 1998 at 01:59:53AM +1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Sep 21, 1998 at 01:59:53AM +1200, Andrew McNaughton wrote: > www.cdrom.com is advertising a soon to be released port of using > Applixware to FreeBSD. Does anyone have experience with Applixware on > other platforms, or know anything about the port? I've used it on RedHat 5.0 and was quite impressed with it. I believe that the Linux version will run on FreeBSD via the linux_lib port but I haven't had any experience with that (yet). > I'm a bit wary of buying it too early in case of bugs, and it sounds > pretty resource intensive, but the discussion on the redhat applix list > seems like many people prefer it to Star Office. I didn't encounter any bugs with it on my system, but I didn't use all it's features. It is, like most office productivity suites, pretty resource intensive. I had no problems on my P200 w 128MB of RAM, but noticed the difference in speed on a friend's P90 w 104MB of RAM. I also tried Star Office and found it to be far worse in terms of responsiveness. - Ben -- "I Want To Believe" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 20 11:07:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04951 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 11:07:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA04920 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 11:07:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id SAA00478; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 18:18:05 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199809201618.SAA00478@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Natd problems To: fee@tetrahome.tetranet.net (Mark Murdock) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 18:18:05 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Mark Murdock" at Sep 20, 98 12:16:16 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Perhaps someone can help me straighten this problem out. > I just cvsup'd the stable source last night and ran a "make buildworld" > and "make installworld" on my system. see my previous message on -stable. I tried to reproduce the problem but without success (i.e. everything worked as expected), although i suspect the fxp driver and i don't have one to try. What network card do you have, is it using the "fxp" driver by chance ? > I brought a couple of my /etc files up to date from /usr/src/etc. > I seem to be having problems with my natd diverting now. Previously, I > had a network of 10.0.0.0/8 machines that used my freeBSD machine as a > gateway to the internet. Everything worked fine. Now, after remaking > the OS, it seems that IP packets are getting to my BSD machine on the > ethernet interface, being translated and sent out the PPP interface, and > are even being returned to the PPP interface, but never making it back to Thanks for the above info. Can you try run natd with the -v flag to check if it sees the packets back ? also can you send me the relevant bits of your ipfw natd.conf etc ? thanks luigi -----------------------------+-------------------------------------- Luigi Rizzo | Dip. di Ingegneria dell'Informazione email: luigi@iet.unipi.it | Universita' di Pisa tel: +39-50-568533 | via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) fax: +39-50-568522 | http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ _____________________________|______________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 20 11:17:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07133 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 11:17:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from asterix.webaffairs.net (port249.bonn.ndh.net [195.94.93.249]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA07128 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 11:17:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stefhe@gmx.net) Received: from obelix (obelix.webaffairs.net [192.168.10.3]) by asterix.webaffairs.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA19003; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 20:07:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stefhe@gmx.net) From: "Stefan Herrmann" To: , "Arnout Boer" Cc: Subject: RE: Star Office 5 on FreeBSD Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 20:02:55 +0200 Message-ID: <000001bde4c0$e46bb680$030aa8c0@obelix.webaffairs.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > www.cdrom.com is advertising a soon to be released port of using > Applixware to FreeBSD. Does anyone have experience with Applixware on > other platforms, or know anything about the port? > > I'm a bit wary of buying it too early in case of bugs, and it sounds > pretty resource intensive, but the discussion on the redhat applix list > seems like many people prefer it to Star Office. > > Any info / experiences? I bought ApplixOffice 2 years ago and used it under Linux. It was the time, when StarOffice 3.1 was in beta test. ApplixOffice used _a lot_ less memory and was way faster then the fat StarOffice 3.1b. I didn't try the newer Versions of both. The disadvantage for me with ApplixOffice was, that it couldn't handle MS Word documents. Don't know, if it can now. StarOffice 3.1b could, but was too big and slow. These are my experiences. Ciao Stefan -- --- Communications powered by FreeBSD --- Stefan Herrmann Löwenburgstr. 81 D-53229 Bonn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 20 12:02:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA16956 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 12:02:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns2.distance.net (ns2.distance.net [209.69.148.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA16937 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 12:02:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spam@distance.net) Received: from distance.net (zula@cc4586-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.64.186]) by ns2.distance.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA28166; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:01:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from spam@distance.net) Message-ID: <360550E1.CAA29A55@distance.net> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:00:49 -0400 From: RPD X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Murdock , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Natd problems References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mark, What device are you using for a network card? -RPD Mark Murdock wrote: > > Perhaps someone can help me straighten this problem out. > I just cvsup'd the stable source last night and ran a "make buildworld" > and "make installworld" on my system. > I brought a couple of my /etc files up to date from /usr/src/etc. > I seem to be having problems with my natd diverting now. Previously, I > had a network of 10.0.0.0/8 machines that used my freeBSD machine as a > gateway to the internet. Everything worked fine. Now, after remaking > the OS, it seems that IP packets are getting to my BSD machine on the > ethernet interface, being translated and sent out the PPP interface, and > are even being returned to the PPP interface, but never making it back to > the machines on my local network. All of my configuration files have > stayed the same. Has anything changed drastically in respect to > natd/ipfw? I verified the ipfw rules, and my natd.conf file. It is the > identical setup that I had before the remake. > > Any ideas? > > Mark Murdock > fee@tetranet.net > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 20 12:27:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20381 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 12:27:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from word.smith.net.au (castles159.castles.com [208.214.165.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20371 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 12:27:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00286; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 12:32:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Message-Id: <199809201932.MAA00286@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Arnout Boer cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Star Office 5 on FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 20 Sep 1998 13:56:56 +0200." <19980920135656.36867@xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 12:32:54 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hi, > > For some of my work and study related stuff I get lots > of attachments in Office 97. > Star Office 5 should handle that correctly! > So.. anybody experience with getting the beta to work on FreeBSD > hate to leave BSD to Linux just because of some software > issues. We won't be able to run StarOffice 5 for the forseeable future, owing to the fact that it uses the Linux kernel threads, and nobody is working on our kernel thread implementation at the moment. It will certainly never run on 2.2-stable, so I can't imagine why you posted here rather than on -emulation. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 20 12:32:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA21702 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 12:32:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell2.ba.best.com (shell2.ba.best.com [206.184.139.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21621 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 12:32:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asaddi@philosophysw.com) Received: from localhost (asaddi@localhost) by shell2.ba.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.sh) with SMTP id MAA18094 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 12:31:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: shell2.ba.best.com: asaddi owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 12:31:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Allan Saddi X-Sender: asaddi@shell2.ba.best.com To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Yet more natd problems Message-ID: Organization: Philosophy SoftWorks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This seems to be a popular topic on -stable lately. ;) I cvsupped on September 18th, at approximately 1:10 am PDT. I made world and rebuilt my kernel (w/o making any changes to the kernel config file i.e. I didn't activate bridging or dummynet) about a day later. This is my topology: utopia de0--------ed0 europa ed1---------ISDN router I run natd by setting the appropriate values in rc.conf, namely: natd_enable="YES" # Enable natd if firewall_enable. natd_interface="ed1" # Public interface to use with natd if natd_enabl e. natd_flags="-redirect_port udp utopia:27901 27901" # Additiona l flags for natd. (Yes, that redirect is for Quake2 ;) This is what I did: I set up utopia to monitor icmp packets on its de0 interface. Similarly, I set up europa to monitor packets on its ed1 interface. On utopia, I ping'ed a non-local destination. I gathered the following output: utopia: {101} ifconfig de0 de0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.42.17 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast 192.168.42.31 ether 00:80:c8:47:47:c5 media: autoselect (10baseT/UTP) status: active supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP europa: {101} ifconfig ed0 ed0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.42.19 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast 192.168.42.31 ether 00:80:c8:4d:ae:c7 europa: {102} ifconfig ed1 ed1: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 10.0.0.3 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast 10.0.0.15 ether 00:80:c8:49:0d:c2 europa# ipfw show 00050 0 0 deny ip from 192.168.42.30 to not 192.168.42.16/28 00100 5 531 divert 8668 ip from any to any via ed1 00100 0 0 allow ip from any to any via lo0 00200 0 0 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8 65000 84 6787 allow ip from any to any 65535 0 0 deny ip from any to any utopia: {110} ping 171.69.192.182 PING 171.69.192.182 (171.69.192.182): 56 data bytes ^C --- 171.69.192.182 ping statistics --- 4 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss utopia# tcpdump -n -i de0 icmp tcpdump: listening on de0 12:03:43.478860 192.168.42.17 > 171.69.192.182: icmp: echo request 12:03:44.482127 192.168.42.17 > 171.69.192.182: icmp: echo request 12:03:45.492098 192.168.42.17 > 171.69.192.182: icmp: echo request 12:03:46.503055 192.168.42.17 > 171.69.192.182: icmp: echo request ^C 15 packets received by filter 0 packets dropped by kernel europa# tcpdump -n -i ed1 tcpdump: listening on ed1 12:03:43.257038 192.168.42.17 > 171.69.192.182: icmp: echo request 12:03:44.260680 192.168.42.17 > 171.69.192.182: icmp: echo request 12:03:45.271052 192.168.42.17 > 171.69.192.182: icmp: echo request 12:03:46.282416 192.168.42.17 > 171.69.192.182: icmp: echo request ^C 4 packets received by filter 0 packets dropped by kernel europa# ipfw show 00050 0 0 deny ip from 192.168.42.30 to not 192.168.42.16/28 00100 5 531 divert 8668 ip from any to any via ed1 00100 0 0 allow ip from any to any via lo0 00200 0 0 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8 65000 89 7187 allow ip from any to any 65535 0 0 deny ip from any to any I'm not much of a kernel hacker, but it seems to me that the packets from utopia aren't being diverted at all, as evidenced by the counters. Also, the outgoing packets on the europa's ed1 interface haven't been aliased at all. I hope this helps to hunt down the bug. (From this, I would think the problem would be somewhere in the kernel portion of ipfirewall.) -- Allan Saddi "The Earth is the cradle of mankind, asaddi@philosophysw.com but we cannot live in the cradle http://www.philosophysw.com/asaddi/ forever." - K.E. Tsiolkovsky To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 20 13:00:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26539 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 13:00:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from geo.geocast.net (geo.geocast.net [128.177.240.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26511 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 13:00:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from castor@geocast.net) Received: from localhost (castor@localhost) by geo.geocast.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25531; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 12:59:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 12:59:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Castor Fu To: Stefan Herrmann cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Star Office 5 on FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <000001bde4c0$e46bb680$030aa8c0@obelix.webaffairs.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > www.cdrom.com is advertising a soon to be released port of using > > Applixware to FreeBSD. Does anyone have experience with Applixware on > > other platforms, or know anything about the port? > > > > I'm a bit wary of buying it too early in case of bugs, and it sounds > > pretty resource intensive, but the discussion on the redhat applix list > > seems like many people prefer it to Star Office. > > > > Any info / experiences? > > I bought ApplixOffice 2 years ago and used it under Linux. > It was the time, when StarOffice 3.1 was in beta test. ApplixOffice > used _a lot_ less memory and was way faster then the fat StarOffice 3.1b. > I didn't try the newer Versions of both. > > The disadvantage for me with ApplixOffice was, that it couldn't handle > MS Word documents. Don't know, if it can now. StarOffice 3.1b could, but > was too big and slow. These are my experiences. I use the RedHat version of Applixware version 4.37 under FreeBSD 2.2.[5-7]'s on a P133 w/64 meg of ram under linux emulation and it's worked ok. I haven't used it for anything beyond simple spreadsheets and reading word files. It's not a horrible spreadsheet, but Excel is probably nicer for most things, (except I'd need to reboot, so I avoid it ;-) Its MSOffice interoperability is OK with Word 6 and the version of Excel before Office95, but it has no ability to deal with newer versions, and Word 6 is now two (soon to be 3) versions behind the times, so it's getting to be less useful. Applix's web site didn't offer much in the way of advice about upgrades. I think they're figuring the Linux market will just have to buy new versions to upgrade. -castor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 20 13:59:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05645 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 13:59:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA05638 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 13:59:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id VAA00675; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 21:09:34 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199809201909.VAA00675@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Yet more natd problems To: asaddi@philosophysw.com (Allan Saddi) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 21:09:34 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Allan Saddi" at Sep 20, 98 12:31:30 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > This seems to be a popular topic on -stable lately. ;) yes, but hopefully all your feedback will be useful... it's puzzling that the your divert rule is not matched by packets which do appear on ed1... this makes me think that i am not properly resetting one of the static vars which control divert... perhaps it would be worthwhile instrumenting (e.g. putting a printf) in the section of ip_fw.c near line 707 that says /* Ignore divert/tee rule if socket port is "ignport" */ ... - if (f->fw_divert_port == ignport) + if (f->fw_divert_port == ignport) { + printf("xxx ignored port %d\n", ignport); continue ; + } else { + printf("xxx valid divert rule\n"); i'd say you shouldn't get the "ignored" msg twice in a row... thanks luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 20 15:12:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19488 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:12:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pinhead.parag.codegen.com (ppp-asfm08--201.sirius.net [205.134.241.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA19467 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:12:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parag@pinhead.parag.codegen.com) Received: from pinhead.parag.codegen.com (localhost.parag.codegen.com [127.0.0.1]) by pinhead.parag.codegen.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA01610; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:12:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parag@pinhead.parag.codegen.com) Message-Id: <199809202212.PAA01610@pinhead.parag.codegen.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Ben Hutchinson cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Star Office 5 on FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 20 Sep 1998 18:19:11 BST." <19980920181911.B21185@xfiles.org.uk> X-Face: =O'Kj74icvU|oS*<7gS/8'\Pbpm}okVj*@UC!IgkmZQAO!W[|iBiMs*|)n*`X ]pW%m>Oz_mK^Gdazsr.Z0/JsFS1uF8gBVIoChGwOy{EK=<6g?aHE`[\S]C]T0Wm X-URL: http://www.codegen.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:12:03 -0700 From: Parag Patel Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <19980920181911.B21185@xfiles.org.uk>, Ben Hutchinson writes: >On Mon, Sep 21, 1998 at 01:59:53AM +1200, Andrew McNaughton wrote: >> www.cdrom.com is advertising a soon to be released port of using >> Applixware to FreeBSD. Does anyone have experience with Applixware on >> other platforms, or know anything about the port? I'm running the Linux 4.37 version of Applixware on 3.0-CURRENT (and before that, 2.2-STABLE) just fine. Works great, doesn't crash, and it's cheap. Its wordprocessor is sort of like Framemaker-lite (if there was such a thing). The spreadsheet is usable, but its paint/draw program is close to useless. Now if someone could talk Apple into porting ClarisWorks to Linux... -- Parag To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Sep 20 15:16:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20293 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:16:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20274 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:16:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@n4hhe.ampr.org) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt1-155.HiWAAY.net [208.147.147.155]) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id RAA03700 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 17:15:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from n4hhe.ampr.org (localhost.ampr.org [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13753 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 16:55:34 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dkelly@n4hhe.ampr.org) Message-Id: <199809202155.QAA13753@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: Star Office 5 on FreeBSD In-reply-to: Message from Andrew McNaughton of "Mon, 21 Sep 1998 01:59:53 +1200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 16:55:34 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andrew McNaughton writes: > On Sun, 20 Sep 1998, Arnout Boer wrote: > > > For some of my work and study related stuff I get lots > > of attachments in Office 97. > > Star Office 5 should handle that correctly! > > So.. anybody experience with getting the beta to work on FreeBSD > > hate to leave BSD to Linux just because of some software > > issues. > > www.cdrom.com is advertising a soon to be released port of using > Applixware to FreeBSD. Does anyone have experience with Applixware on > other platforms, or know anything about the port? Nope. I backordered a copy sight unseen. > I'm a bit wary of buying it too early in case of bugs, and it sounds > pretty resource intensive, but the discussion on the redhat applix list > seems like many people prefer it to Star Office. Bugs, smugs. Didn't even ask about the upgrade policy. Didn't think I needed to. If its bad broken, WC will make it right. I did visit the RedHat site before back ordering my Applixware from WC. Appears there is a "regular" and a "pro" version. The main difference is the "pro" version does Microsoft formats. Or maybe its "more Microsoft formats." Seems like $100 and $250 were the prices. Am offline and quoting from memory a couple of months old. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 21 01:27:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA26370 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 01:27:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alcatel.fr (ns.celwave.tm.fr [194.133.58.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA26345 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 01:27:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr) From: Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr Received: from alcatel.fr (gatekeeper-ssn.alcatel.fr [155.132.180.244]) by mailgate.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP) with ESMTP id KAA21126; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 10:32:49 +0200 Received: from lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (lune.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.144.65]) by aifhs2.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP2) with ESMTP id KAA10594; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 10:25:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from telss1 (telss1.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.51.4]) by lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA16809; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 10:24:52 +0200 (MEST) Received: from eole.telspace.alcatel.fr by telss1 (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13199; Mon, 21 Sep 98 10:24:44 +0200 Received: from localhost by eole.telspace.alcatel.fr with SMTP (1.40.112.12/16.2) id AA011364608; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 09:56:48 +0200 X-Openmail-Hops: 1 Date: Mon, 21 Sep 98 09:56:26 +0200 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19980918183006.24913@follo.net> Subject: Re: source upgrade to 3.0 (was lkm/cd9660) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: eivind@yes.no Cc: knollm@lafcol.lafayette.edu, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Thierry.Herbelot@alcatel.fr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="Re:" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Re:" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Will there be a step-by-step how-to documentation to effectively do this upgrade ? (should there be a intermediate step with the build of an ELF 2.2-Stable system ?) All I've seen is the handbook or greg's book, but these focus on making world *inside* one thread of development (either following -stable or -current). Anyway, this will restore the thrill of my first "make world", when the perspective of totally screwing up a system was not far away (this perspective never materialized, but I learned it later ...). Greetings TfH > > PS : eivind, do you know if it will be possible to upgrade from source > > from 2.2.7-Stable to 3.0-Whatever (I imagine that the conversion to ELF > > will make it somewhat **involved**) > > 'make aout-to-elf' should work from 2.2.5 and upwards. (Ie, if it > doesn't work, please yell - John Birrell put in a lot of effort to > make it work). > > Eivind. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 21 05:06:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA24456 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 05:06:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.gwi.net (mail.gwi.net [204.120.68.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA24443 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 05:06:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fkittred@mail.gwi.net) Received: from mail.gwi.net (fkittred@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.gwi.net (8.8.5/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA23886; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 08:05:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809211205.IAA23886@mail.gwi.net> To: andrew@squiz.co.nz cc: Arnout Boer , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: Arnout Boer Subject: Re: Star Office 5 on FreeBSD In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 21 Sep 1998 01:59:53 +1200." Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 08:05:17 -0400 From: Fletcher E Kittredge Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 21 Sep 1998 01:59:53 +1200 (NZST) Andrew McNaughton wrote: > > www.cdrom.com is advertising a soon to be released port of using > Applixware to FreeBSD. Does anyone have experience with Applixware on > other platforms, or know anything about the port? Works very well on Solaris and Linux. I am switching my home machine from Linux to FreeBSD when Applixware is available on it. regards, fletcher To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 21 16:25:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA10667 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:25:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ns2.distance.net (ns2.distance.net [209.69.148.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10475 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:24:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spam@distance.net) Received: from distance.net (zula@tchpf-port-226.lsl.com [209.69.166.226]) by ns2.distance.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA05475; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 19:23:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from spam@distance.net) Message-ID: <3606DF99.6C690E5C@distance.net> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 19:22:01 -0400 From: RPD X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Luigi Rizzo , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: is NATD / IPFW broke? References: <199809200503.HAA29704@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Luigi, Was there a problem? If so, did you locate it? -RPD Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > > Stable, > > > > Something is defiantly broke with the latest source regarding NATD and > > i am going to look at the problem this morning. > > > IPFW, I took my old source from Aug 18, 98 and rebuilt my system. NATD / > > IPFW work fine. I did not have a chance to try any other cards, I just > > have the Intel 10/100 Etherexpress NIC, I doubt there is a problem with > > fxp driver though because everything else works fine. If someone has the > > i ass > > balls to cvsup to the latest source and is running natd please let me > > know if you have better successes. netstat -i shows the packets are > > coming in but NATD in verbose mode is not showing the traffic. > > have you checked that the "ipfw show" command shows the counters for > the natd rule increasing ? > > > 3. rm -rf /usr/src; installed old source from Aug 18; make world; make > > install; recompiled and installed the kernel, natd is working; > > I am not sure, have you tried the following on today's sources: > > > > * back out the mods to if_fxp.c and see if things start working (those > > > changes should only affect bridging) > > the above is the only test i cannot do myself. > > cheers > luigi > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 21 16:26:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA10984 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:26:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA10817 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:25:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id XAA03189; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 23:36:02 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199809212136.XAA03189@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: is NATD / IPFW broke? To: spam@distance.net (RPD) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 23:36:01 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3606DF99.6C690E5C@distance.net> from "RPD" at Sep 21, 98 07:21:42 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Luigi, > > Was there a problem? If so, did you locate it? look at the cvs tree for ip_input.c and ip_output.c -- was an uninitialized variable luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 21 16:59:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA19147 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:59:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from quartz.sentex.ca (quartz.sentex.ca [209.112.4.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18955 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:58:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from gravel (ospf-mdt.sentex.net [205.211.164.81]) by quartz.sentex.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA22846 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 19:41:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980921194412.00cb39c0@sentex.net> X-Sender: mdtancsa@sentex.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 19:44:12 -0400 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Dummynet backout ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Any chances of backing out the Dummynet commits ? Or has the bugs with respect to ipfw been ironed out ? It seems a few people have had problems with it now ---Mike ********************************************************************** Mike Tancsa, Network Admin * mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications Corp, * http://www.sentex.net/mike Cambridge, Ontario * 01.519.651.3400 Canada * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 21 17:25:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27540 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 17:25:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alecto.physics.uiuc.edu (alecto.physics.uiuc.edu [130.126.8.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA27488 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 17:25:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from igor@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu) Received: (from igor@localhost) by alecto.physics.uiuc.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) id TAA15018; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 19:24:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Igor Roshchin Message-Id: <199809220024.TAA15018@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu> Subject: Intel 82558 100/10 and AIC 7890 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 19:24:28 -0500 (CDT) Cc: igor@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu (Igor Roshchin) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! Sorry, if this is not the right place to ask. I just wonder, if these adapters are currently supported by -stable. 1. Intel 82558 100/10Mbps LAN Onboard and 2. Adaptec AIC 7890 & 3860 80MB/s Ultra2 Wide SCSI Onboard Regarding the Adaptec: I didn't find it in the list of supported controllers, but I am not sure if it is up-to-date. (even though it has a note: Updated September 8, 1998 ) It seems to have no Ultra2 controllers at all.. There is a chapter 3.21. (FAQ75.html) which says: The newer AIC789x series Adaptec chips are supported under the CAM SCSI framework making it's debut in 3.0. Patches against 3.0-CURRENT and 2.2-STABLE are in ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/cam/. A CAM-enhanced boot floppy is available at http://www.freebsd.org/~abial/cam-boot/. I looked in the first directory on ftp2.freebsd.org It says: Adaptec Aic7xxx driver (ahc): This driver supports all of the devices the original FreeBSD driver supports but with the following new features: Supports aic7890/91/95 based controllers. I have now tested the 2940U2W on both a Seagate Cheetah and Quantum Viking II LVD drive and it appears to work well. I did find out, the hard way, that the LVD cable supplied by Adaptec in the 2940U2W kit has very fragile connectors, so be extra careful when seating these cables. I do not know if the termination control is correct for motherboard based 7890/91 controllers is correct, so if you encounter problems in this kind of configuration, please let me know. So, can anybody clarify what is the current status of this driver ? May be the FAQ should reflect that ? Thanks, Igor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 21 20:35:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA03370 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 20:35:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA03356 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 20:35:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA25497; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 20:35:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: Mike Tancsa cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dummynet backout ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 21 Sep 1998 19:44:12 EDT." <3.0.5.32.19980921194412.00cb39c0@sentex.net> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 20:35:38 -0700 Message-ID: <25494.906435338@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Any chances of backing out the Dummynet commits ? Or has the bugs with > respect to ipfw been ironed out ? It seems a few people have had problems > with it now They appear to have been fixed. Check your mail. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 21 21:32:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA11689 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 21:32:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from netcom1.netcom.com (lax-ca70-28.ix.netcom.com [207.93.162.220]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA11667 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 21:32:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvh@ix.netcom.com) Received: (from mvh@localhost) by netcom1.netcom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA06702; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 21:30:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvh) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 21:30:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "Michael V. Harding" Message-Id: <199809220430.VAA06702@netcom1.netcom.com> To: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it CC: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Dummynet Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Luigi - I made a kernel (just now) with options DUMMYNET and I get the following warnings. These are the only warnings I have ever got when making the kernel, makes me nervous. Thanks for this code, looking forward to trying it out! Mike Harding ../../netinet/ip_dummynet.c: In function `dn_restart': ../../netinet/ip_dummynet.c:99: warning: passing arg 1 of `timeout' from incompatible pointer type ../../netinet/ip_dummynet.c: In function `dn_move': ../../netinet/ip_dummynet.c:203: warning: implicit declaration of function `ip_output' ../../netinet/ip_dummynet.c: At top level: ../../netinet/ip_dummynet.c:378: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Sep 21 23:11:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA27896 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 23:11:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA27882 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 23:11:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id GAA03818; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 06:20:36 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199809220420.GAA03818@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Dummynet To: mvh@ix.netcom.com (Michael V. Harding) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 06:20:36 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199809220430.VAA06702@netcom1.netcom.com> from "Michael V. Harding" at Sep 21, 98 09:30:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > options DUMMYNET > > and I get the following warnings. These are the only warnings I have > ever got when making the kernel, makes me nervous. they are harmless, but yes, i should try to eliminate them. Will do it later, thanks for reminding cheers luigi > Thanks for this code, looking forward to trying it out! > > Mike Harding > > ../../netinet/ip_dummynet.c: In function `dn_restart': > ../../netinet/ip_dummynet.c:99: warning: passing arg 1 of `timeout' from incompatible pointer type > ../../netinet/ip_dummynet.c: In function `dn_move': > ../../netinet/ip_dummynet.c:203: warning: implicit declaration of function `ip_output' > ../../netinet/ip_dummynet.c: At top level: > ../../netinet/ip_dummynet.c:378: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 22 02:14:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA23502 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 02:14:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from garden.bio.nagoya-u.ac.jp (garden.bio.nagoya-u.ac.jp [133.6.129.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA23454 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 02:14:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kawa@garden.bio.nagoya-u.ac.jp) Received: from garden.bio.nagoya-u.ac.jp (localhost.bio.nagoya-u.ac.jp [127.0.0.1]) by garden.bio.nagoya-u.ac.jp (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA00264 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 18:01:37 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from kawa@garden.bio.nagoya-u.ac.jp) Message-Id: <199809220901.SAA00264@garden.bio.nagoya-u.ac.jp> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.28.1 / Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 18:01:36 +0900 From: kawasaki munekazu Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 22 02:22:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA24862 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 02:22:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from garden.bio.nagoya-u.ac.jp (garden.bio.nagoya-u.ac.jp [133.6.129.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA24765 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 02:21:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kawa@garden.bio.nagoya-u.ac.jp) Received: from garden.bio.nagoya-u.ac.jp (localhost.bio.nagoya-u.ac.jp [127.0.0.1]) by garden.bio.nagoya-u.ac.jp (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA00282 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 18:08:48 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from kawa@garden.bio.nagoya-u.ac.jp) Message-Id: <199809220908.SAA00282@garden.bio.nagoya-u.ac.jp> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.28.1 / Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 18:08:48 +0900 From: kawasaki munekazu Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 22 03:00:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA01442 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 03:00:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pollux.sdata.de (pollux.sdata.de [193.30.133.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA01430 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 03:00:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@pollux.sdata.de) Received: (from chris@localhost) by pollux.sdata.de (8.8.7/8.8.5) id LAA05603 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:59:16 +0200 (MET DST) From: Christoph Splittgerber Message-Id: <199809220959.LAA05603@pollux.sdata.de> Subject: DUMMYNET To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:59:16 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-to: cs@pollux.sdata.de X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, what about this renaming-thing which poped up a couple of days ago ? "NETLIMIT" did sound good to me! Maybe we should really do that before everybody gets used to DUMMYNET. JMHO, Chris -- *** Perfection is achieved only at the point of collapse.- C.N.Parkinson *** ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Email: chris@sdata.de PGP Key fingerprint: FE0899542E27761E57C4C8F3C6188F56 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 22 03:56:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA08722 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 03:56:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA08701 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 03:56:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id LAA04192; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:06:55 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199809220906.LAA04192@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: DUMMYNET To: cs@pollux.sdata.de Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:06:54 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199809220959.LAA05603@pollux.sdata.de> from "Christoph Splittgerber" at Sep 22, 98 11:58:57 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > what about this renaming-thing which poped up a couple of days ago ? > > "NETLIMIT" did sound good to me! Maybe we should really do that before > everybody gets used to DUMMYNET. DUMMYNET is already an esablished name. It has been out for two years now. The renaming was more to have something more indicative for those who still don't know it. but i agree that netlimit is a possibly good name for a manpage cheers luigi > > JMHO, Chris > > -- > *** Perfection is achieved only at the point of collapse.- C.N.Parkinson *** > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Email: chris@sdata.de PGP Key fingerprint: FE0899542E27761E57C4C8F3C6188F56 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 22 04:04:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA11073 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 04:04:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from implode.root.com (implode.root.com [198.145.90.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA10999 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 04:03:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA28691; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 03:57:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809221057.DAA28691@implode.root.com> To: Igor Roshchin cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, igor@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu (Igor Roshchin) Subject: Re: Intel 82558 100/10 and AIC 7890 In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 21 Sep 1998 19:24:28 CDT." <199809220024.TAA15018@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 03:57:52 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Hello! > >Sorry, if this is not the right place to ask. >I just wonder, if these adapters are currently supported by -stable. >1. Intel 82558 100/10Mbps LAN Onboard Yes. >and >2. Adaptec AIC 7890 & 3860 80MB/s Ultra2 Wide SCSI Onboard No, only with the CAM patches for -stable that Justin is providing. -DG David Greenman Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 22 04:09:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA12353 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 04:09:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dt053nb4.san.rr.com (dt053nb4.san.rr.com [204.210.34.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA12314 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 04:09:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Received: from dal.net (Studded@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dt053nb4.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA10186; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 04:08:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Studded@dal.net) Message-ID: <36078521.D99AF2C1@dal.net> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 04:08:17 -0700 From: Studded Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE-0920 i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" CC: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dummynet backout ? References: <25494.906435338@time.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > > Any chances of backing out the Dummynet commits ? Or has the bugs with > > respect to ipfw been ironed out ? It seems a few people have had problems > > with it now > > They appear to have been fixed. Check your mail. :) Are the changes going to be moved forward into 3.0 now that they seem to be fixed up? I was thinking about this today and early adopters of this change in -Stable are going to be discouraged from moving to 3.0-Release, and/or bit in the butt if they do. Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** "Yes, the president should resign. He has lied to the American people, time and time again, and betrayed their trust. He is no longer an effective leader. Since he has admitted guilt, there is no reason to put the American people through an impeachment. He will serve absolutely no purpose in finishing out his term; the only possible solution is for the president to save some dignity and resign." - William Jefferson Clinton, 1974 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 22 05:31:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA22823 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 05:31:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA22805 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 05:31:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id MAA04314; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 12:40:55 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199809221040.MAA04314@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: Dummynet backout ? To: Studded@dal.net (Studded) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 12:40:55 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <36078521.D99AF2C1@dal.net> from "Studded" at Sep 22, 98 04:07:58 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Are the changes going to be moved forward into 3.0 now that they seem > to be fixed up? I was thinking about this today and early adopters of > this change in -Stable are going to be discouraged from moving to > 3.0-Release, and/or bit in the butt if they do. i have patches for -current which i have posted to -net a few days ago, and apparently nobody had the time to try them. Since we are in beta i highly doubt that they will go in unless someone does the testing. luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 22 15:23:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA16261 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 15:23:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from papaya.mail.easynet.net (papaya.mail.easynet.net [195.40.1.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA16073 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 15:22:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@sour.cream.org) Received: (qmail 23721 invoked from network); 22 Sep 1998 22:20:54 -0000 Received: from boothman.easynet.co.uk (194.154.100.117) by papaya.mail.easynet.net with SMTP; 22 Sep 1998 22:20:54 -0000 Received: by Boothman.easynet.co.uk (VPOP3 - Unregistered) with SMTP; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 23:16:27 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980922231626.007b0240@ice.cream.org> X-Sender: andrew@ice.cream.org (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 23:16:26 +0100 To: Gregory Bond , Federico_Lupi@www.datasys.it From: Andrew Boothman Subject: Re: Starting point for CTM Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199809172328.JAA17504@melba.bby.com.au> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Server: VPOP3 V1.2.0d Unregistered Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 09:26 18/09/98 +1000, Gregory Bond wrote: >I asked this question when I got the 2.2.6 CDs and for some reason the CTM >baseline generation was busted and apparently remains busted. This meant the >2.2.6 baseline was not made and there was no way of knowing where to start CTM >from. > >Judging from the advice I received, there is not a lot of interest in CTM or >fixing the baseline generation and everyone recommended I use cvsup. I did >manage to get cvsup working through the firewall which was my main problem. That seems like a really big shame. I was hoping to use the CTM system to keep a standalone system up to date with -stable. While having the delta's e-mailed to me and then put on disk and taken to that machine. Why has the problem not been fixed? I find it difficult to believe that no-one has any interest at all in the CTM system now. Are there any plans for getting the baseline generation system working for the 3-Release distribution? Thanks.. -- Andrew Boothman http://sour.cream.org PGP Key Available From Public Servers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Sep 22 22:49:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA09459 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 22:49:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au [202.14.186.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA09420 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 22:48:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Carl.Makin@ipaustralia.gov.au) From: Carl.Makin@ipaustralia.gov.au Received: (from smap@localhost) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA02093 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 15:48:36 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from Carl.Makin@ipaustralia.gov.au) X-Authentication-Warning: pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au: smap set sender to using -f Received: from noteshub01.aipo.gov.au(10.0.100.21) by pericles.IPAustralia.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma002091; Wed, 23 Sep 98 15:48:34 +1000 Received: by noteshub01.aipo.gov.au(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.1 (569.2 2-6-1998)) id 4A256688.001FF056 ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 15:48:51 +1000 X-Lotus-FromDomain: IP_AUSTRALIA To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <4A256688.001F83C9.00@noteshub01.aipo.gov.au> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 15:48:14 +1000 Subject: Re: Starting point for CTM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > At 09:26 18/09/98 +1000, Gregory Bond wrote: >> Judging from the advice I received, there is not a lot of interest in CTM or >> fixing the baseline generation and everyone recommended I use cvsup. I did >> manage to get cvsup working through the firewall which was my main problem. Andrew Boothman replied: > That seems like a really big shame. I was hoping to use the CTM system to keep > a standalone system up to date with -stable. While having the delta's e-mailed > to me and then put on disk and taken to that machine. We're using CTM to keep up with stable, current and the CVS tree here. I run a mirror job nightly to suck down the new stuff and automatically expand it into an example directory here so it's available to look at. I can't cvsup thru the firewall the getting the updates by mail was a pain. This is *much* easier. I'd be upset if it went away. Carl. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 23 02:47:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA20656 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 02:47:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pis.toba-cmt.ac.jp (pis.toba-cmt.ac.jp [202.26.248.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA20589 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 02:47:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kiri@pis.toba-cmt.ac.jp) Received: from localhost (localhost.pis [127.0.0.1]) by pis.toba-cmt.ac.jp (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA04518 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 18:55:34 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from kiri@pis.toba-cmt.ac.jp) To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Why dose'nt install objformat? X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on XEmacs 20.4 (Emerald) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19980923185528E.kiri@pis.toba-cmt.ac.jp> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 18:55:28 +0900 From: KIRIYAMA Kazuhiko X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 12 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Why objformat does not install in stable? There is nothing anywhere in stable source tree. Normally would be installed at /usr/src/usr.bin/objformat. I copied it from -current, but installation did not correct,and important /usr/bin/* binaries were died! Anyway I recover by coping those files from 2.2.7.... ________________________________________________________________________ KIRIYAMA Kazuhiko Toba National College of Maritime Technology Department of Electronic Mechanical Engineering To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 23 04:32:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA07619 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 04:32:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA07605 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 04:32:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA03331; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 04:33:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: KIRIYAMA Kazuhiko cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why dose'nt install objformat? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 23 Sep 1998 18:55:28 +0900." <19980923185528E.kiri@pis.toba-cmt.ac.jp> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 04:33:15 -0700 Message-ID: <3328.906550395@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Why objformat does not install in stable? There is nothing anywhere in I think basically because there's only one object format that -stable has or ever will have, a.out, so specifying it would be somewhat redundant. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 23 17:08:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA13276 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 17:08:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from maild.telia.com (maild.telia.com [194.22.190.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA13229 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 17:07:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from girgen@partitur.se) Received: from d1o29.telia.com (root@d1o29.telia.com [194.236.214.241]) by maild.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA14114; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 02:07:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from partitur.se (t2o29p49.telia.com [194.236.214.169]) by d1o29.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA20180; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 02:07:39 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <36098D27.B32A374@partitur.se> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 02:07:03 +0200 From: Palle Girgensohn Organization: Partitur X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b2 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Netscape hangs console with top showing "nfsaio" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! We have gotten a problem recenty, where Netscape (4.5, and also 4.06, I believe) hang too often. top(1) shows that netscape is in 'select' state. killing it with -15 puts netscape in 'nfsaio' state. After that, programs continue to run; I can see programs, like top, printing its output; I can open new windiws and start new programs (thus the mouse works fine) but no keyboard input is accepted -- the X console gets more or less useless until netscape decides to die, which can take a minute or two, sometimes more. :( Killing netscape with -9 right away seems to help. The netscape binary is nfs mounted (all of /usr/local is, to be specific). The user home dirs are also nfs mounted, from the same server. The server is a recent stable-2.2: #uname -a FreeBSD trumpet.partitur.se 2.2.7-STABLE FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE #0: Thu Sep 3 05:15:05 CEST 1998 root@trumpet.partitur.se:/usr/src/sys/compile/TRUMPET i386 The clients are both a very recent current, and other stables like the server. I have tried installing netscape locally, but this doesn't help, so I ruled that source out. It seems that it might have to do with the mounted user dirs, though. I say this partly because that's what left on nfs, when the binary is installed locally, but also because I have seem this error frequently when editing the preferences in Netscape. (It happens at other times too, though). I also know that Netscape's local IMAP mail cache directory should be local or performance sucks, so I don't trust netscape accessing nfs dirs... Might have been fixed in the new 4.5-PR2. One thing that I have seen before, that could be related, is this: >dmesg de0: receive: 00:e0:29:25:51:c8: bad crc ... Checking the time stamps, this is *probably* not related. I have seem it for a long time, and have been told that I should not be concerned with it; it's some debugging info. Still worth mentioning, perhaps. One thing that helps, but doesn't kill off the problem altogether, is raising limits (bash command ulimit or tcsh command limit) before starting netscape. I set the figures very high, and things got better, but they didn't get good :( Any ideas? Need more input? Please ask me! I really need to solve this! Best regards, Palle To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 23 17:52:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA19164 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 17:52:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tetrahome.tetranet.net (tetranet.net [206.42.249.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA19132 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 17:52:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fee@tetrahome.tetranet.net) Received: (from fee@localhost) by tetrahome.tetranet.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id TAA22700; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:47:40 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:47:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Murdock To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Unexplained errors.. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I get this message at boot, and the last two lines bother me. Can anyone help explain what this is and why I might be seeing it? wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 flags 0x80ff80ff on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): , 32-bit, multi-block-16 wd0: 2014MB (4124736 sectors), 4092 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 1 (wd1): , 32-bit, multi-block-16 wd1: 2441MB (4999680 sectors), 4960 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 flags 0x80ff80ff on isa wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): , 32-bit, multi-block-16 wd2: 1225MB (2509920 sectors), 2490 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S Device wd0: name slot allocation failed (Errno=17) Device rwd0: name slot allocation failed (Errno=17) Thanks, Mark Murdock fee@tetranet.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 23 19:09:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA01354 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:09:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tetrahome.tetranet.net (tetranet.net [206.42.249.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA01337 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:09:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fee@tetrahome.tetranet.net) Received: (from fee@localhost) by tetrahome.tetranet.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id VAA24563; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 21:04:12 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 21:04:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Murdock To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: resolving ips? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yet another question for freebsd-stable network experts: When I try to telnet to an ip address, my system attempts to contact my name servers in my /etc/resolv.conf file. I was actually unable to telnet to an ip due to this when my ipfw configuration was blocking udp on 53. Why consult the resolver? Why not just make your connection based on the kernel routing tables? Thanks, Mark Murdock fee@tetranet.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 23 19:58:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA09042 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:58:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pis.toba-cmt.ac.jp (pis.toba-cmt.ac.jp [202.26.248.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA09024 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:58:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kiri@pis.toba-cmt.ac.jp) Received: from localhost (localhost.pis [127.0.0.1]) by pis.toba-cmt.ac.jp (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA14324 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 12:06:56 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from kiri@pis.toba-cmt.ac.jp) To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why dose'nt install objformat? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 23 Sep 1998 04:33:15 -0700" <3328.906550395@time.cdrom.com> References: <3328.906550395@time.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on XEmacs 20.4 (Emerald) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19980924120656R.kiri@pis.toba-cmt.ac.jp> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 12:06:56 +0900 From: KIRIYAMA Kazuhiko X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 18 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In Message-ID: <3328.906550395@time.cdrom.com> "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote : > > Why objformat does not install in stable? There is nothing anywhere in > > I think basically because there's only one object format that -stable > has or ever will have, a.out, so specifying it would be somewhat > redundant. :) Does it means that user who uses ports in stable must be allways set PORTOBJFORMAT=aout? According to elf-guidlies wrote by Mr.A.Satoshi,system may be detect aout or not whether 3.0 or not. I think it prefer to install objformat, and user may not be concern with PORTOBJFORMAT. ________________________________________________________________________ KIRIYAMA Kazuhiko Toba National College of Maritime Technology Department of Electronic Mechanical Engineering To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 23 20:28:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA13792 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 20:28:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA13786 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 20:28:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA11703; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 20:29:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: KIRIYAMA Kazuhiko cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why dose'nt install objformat? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 24 Sep 1998 12:06:56 +0900." <19980924120656R.kiri@pis.toba-cmt.ac.jp> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 20:29:07 -0700 Message-ID: <11700.906607747@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Does it means that user who uses ports in stable must be allways set > PORTOBJFORMAT=aout? According to elf-guidlies wrote by I would expect the -stable bsd.port.mk to set this by default, or whatever's necessary to obey POLA on a 2.2-stable system. I mean, nothing else would be looking at OBJFORMAT there - not the Makefiles, not the tools, that's all part of -current only. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 23 21:24:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA22592 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 21:24:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA22574 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 21:24:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca5-31.ix.netcom.com [209.109.234.31]) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA19145; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 21:24:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.8.8/8.6.9) id VAA08619; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 21:23:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 21:23:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199809240423.VAA08619@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> To: kiri@pis.toba-cmt.ac.jp CC: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <19980924120656R.kiri@pis.toba-cmt.ac.jp> (message from KIRIYAMA Kazuhiko on Thu, 24 Sep 1998 12:06:56 +0900) Subject: Re: Why dose'nt install objformat? From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Does it means that user who uses ports in stable must be allways set * PORTOBJFORMAT=aout? According to elf-guidlies wrote by * Mr.A.Satoshi,system may be detect aout or not whether 3.0 or not. I * think it prefer to install objformat, and user may not be concern with * PORTOBJFORMAT. I don't really understand what you are trying to say here, but PORTOBJFORMAT is always "aout" in 2.2-stable. Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 23 21:30:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA23162 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 21:30:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA23097 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 21:29:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sprice@hiwaay.net) Received: from localhost (sprice@localhost) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id XAA12567; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:26:46 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:26:45 -0500 (CDT) From: Steve Price To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: KIRIYAMA Kazuhiko , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why dose'nt install objformat? In-Reply-To: <11700.906607747@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry I'm a little late on this one. If you have the latest bsd.port.mk it will DTRT. Here's the relevant line from a recent copy of this file: PORTOBJFORMAT!= text -x /usr/bin/objformat && /usr/bin/objformat || aout Steve On Wed, 23 Sep 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: # > Does it means that user who uses ports in stable must be allways set # > PORTOBJFORMAT=aout? According to elf-guidlies wrote by # # I would expect the -stable bsd.port.mk to set this by default, or # whatever's necessary to obey POLA on a 2.2-stable system. I mean, # nothing else would be looking at OBJFORMAT there - not the Makefiles, # not the tools, that's all part of -current only. # # - Jordan # # To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org # with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message # To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 23 21:34:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA23709 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 21:34:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from austin.polstra.com (austin.polstra.com [206.213.73.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA23690 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 21:33:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@austin.polstra.com) Received: from austin.polstra.com (jdp@localhost) by austin.polstra.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA27500; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 21:33:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp) Message-Id: <199809240433.VAA27500@austin.polstra.com> To: kiri@pis.toba-cmt.ac.jp Subject: Re: Why dose'nt install objformat? In-Reply-To: <19980924120656R.kiri@pis.toba-cmt.ac.jp> References: <3328.906550395@time.cdrom.com> <19980924120656R.kiri@pis.toba-cmt.ac.jp> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 21:33:28 -0700 From: John Polstra Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <19980924120656R.kiri@pis.toba-cmt.ac.jp>, KIRIYAMA Kazuhiko wrote: > Does it means that user who uses ports in stable must be allways set > PORTOBJFORMAT=aout? According to elf-guidlies wrote by > Mr.A.Satoshi,system may be detect aout or not whether 3.0 or not. I > think it prefer to install objformat, and user may not be concern with > PORTOBJFORMAT. Don't worry. As the guidelines stated, PORTOBJFORMAT is set in a way that works on -2.2 systems too: PORTOBJFORMAT!= test -x /usr/bin/objformat && /usr/bin/objformat || echo aout John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-knowledge is always bad news." -- John Barth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 23 22:45:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA03162 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 22:45:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA03152 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 22:45:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 0zM4Df-00014a-00; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 22:45:35 -0700 Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 22:45:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: Mark Murdock cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: resolving ips? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 23 Sep 1998, Mark Murdock wrote: > Yet another question for freebsd-stable network experts: > > When I try to telnet to an ip address, my system attempts to contact my > name servers in my /etc/resolv.conf file. I was actually unable to telnet > to an ip due to this when my ipfw configuration was blocking udp on 53. > > Why consult the resolver? Why not just make your connection based on the > kernel routing tables? Routing tables and DNS are completely unrelated. Telnet wants to find the name for the IP it is connecting to. The resolver will take a long time if the listed DNS servers don't respond. It will eventually timeout and give up, you just aren't patient enough. > Thanks, > Mark Murdock > fee@tetranet.net Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 23 23:21:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA07184 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:21:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from quartz.sentex.ca (quartz.sentex.ca [209.112.4.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA07172 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:21:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from gravel (ospf-mdt.sentex.net [205.211.164.81]) by quartz.sentex.ca (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA25477 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 02:22:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980924022527.00d10bb0@sentex.net> X-Sender: mdtancsa@sentex.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 02:25:27 -0400 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: resolving ips? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 09:04 PM 9/23/98 -0500, Mark Murdock wrote: >Yet another question for freebsd-stable network experts: > >When I try to telnet to an ip address, my system attempts to contact my >name servers in my /etc/resolv.conf file. I was actually unable to telnet >to an ip due to this when my ipfw configuration was blocking udp on 53. Just give it time... It will work eventually. The system you are trying to telnet to is trying to lookup the name of the host you are coming from so it can log it. >Why consult the resolver? Why not just make your connection based on the >kernel routing tables? I am not sure what you mean by the routing table in this case.. What you are describing is a DNS timeout...If you want it to work faster in this situation, then change /etc/host.conf to list hosts first, then bind and add the necessary information in your /etc/hosts file. ---Mike ********************************************************************** Mike Tancsa, Network Admin * mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications Corp, * http://www.sentex.net/mike Cambridge, Ontario * 01.519.651.3400 Canada * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 23 23:25:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA07650 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:25:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gjp.erols.com (alex-va-n008c079.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA07645 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:25:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (gjp@localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA05682; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 02:25:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Tom cc: Mark Murdock , stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: resolving ips? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 23 Sep 1998 22:45:31 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 02:25:28 -0400 Message-ID: <5678.906618328@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tom wrote in message ID : > > On Wed, 23 Sep 1998, Mark Murdock wrote: > > > Yet another question for freebsd-stable network experts: > > > > When I try to telnet to an ip address, my system attempts to contact my > > name servers in my /etc/resolv.conf file. I was actually unable to telnet > > to an ip due to this when my ipfw configuration was blocking udp on 53. > > > > Why consult the resolver? Why not just make your connection based on the > > kernel routing tables? > > Routing tables and DNS are completely unrelated. Telnet wants to find > the name for the IP it is connecting to. The resolver will take a long > time if the listed DNS servers don't respond. It will eventually timeout > and give up, you just aren't patient enough. Perhaps he was referring to the fact that I think someone broke telnet to do reverse lookups when fed IP addresses, and that was recently fixed (I believe). You are right, that it would not cause the connection to fail, just take a really long time. But it was still damned annoying. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 24 02:41:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA03348 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 02:41:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from limes.NIC.DTAG.DE (limes.NIC.DTAG.DE [194.25.1.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA03330 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 02:41:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bm@Reineke.malepartus.de) Received: from kronos.NIC.DTAG.DE (kronos.NIC.DTAG.DE [194.25.1.92]) by limes.NIC.DTAG.DE (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA20042; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:40:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from kronos.NIC.DTAG.DE (kronos.NIC.DTAG.DE [194.25.1.92]) by limes.NIC.DTAG.DE (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id LAA20042; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:40:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from Reineke.malepartus.de (reineke.malepartus.de [194.25.4.66]) by kronos.NIC.DTAG.DE (8.8.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id LAA04216; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:41:32 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from Reineke.malepartus.de (localhost.Malepartus.de [127.0.0.1]) by Reineke.malepartus.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA19644; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:41:30 +0200 (MEST) (envelope-from bm@Reineke.malepartus.de) Message-Id: <199809240941.LAA19644@Reineke.malepartus.de> From: Burkard Meyendriesch To: Peter Jeremy cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, bm@malepartus.de, hek@nic.dtag.de Subject: Re: kernel PPS line discipline for NTP In-reply-to: Your Message from Mon, 07 Sep 1998 08:37:52 +1000. <98Sep7.083737est.40333@border.alcanet.com.au> X-Mailer: MH 6.8.3 X-organization: The home of Reineke Fuchs X-GPOS: 52.0844N 7.9081E X-phone: +49 5484 96097 X-pgp-fingerprint: DF 83 04 CD B5 D1 10 43 57 4C AD 9A B1 02 28 17 X-face: "[-;]oI+8gP9>*J%knDN8d%DuhvJS2Lj4L\bRb7gz(pcT?2Zh6_Vam_6csAum3$<&lhAFd^ jt|!&Ut1C~Vg*E/q}+#cbFg-GU]c.bB8Ad,L'W$'9{^0y'AzM4#hS[C[F-1'|O;Kg3Vrq5q6dsU*TmJ@}+QPM\ b[^9Rhd,UoMpRpd5k[X=h.Dom*kbT`cNQ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <19641.906630088.1@Reineke.malepartus.de> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:41:29 +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG 1998-09-07 08:37:52 +1000 Peter Jeremy wrote: > > Burkard Meyendriesch writes: > > > > I'm trying to install a NTP pulse per second suport on my FreeBSD-2.2.7 > > > > Can anybody of you give me a hint for installing a timestamp line > > discipline on FreeBSD? > > There is an undocumented ioctl that will do almost what you want > (assuming your PPS signal is tied to DCD on a serial port): > > struct timeval tv; > > ioctl(fd, TIOCDCDTIMESTAMP, &tv); > > This will enable the capture of, and report the time of the last > inactive -> active DCD edge on the serial port. (There's also > TIOCTIMESTAMP, which timestamps received characters). > > Note that the ppbus parallel port driver in -current includes similar > functionality. > > The reason I say `almost' is that: > 1) Since both the 16[45]50 and the code treat DCD transitions as a low > priority, there will be a substantial amount of jitter on the > timestamps. On a 486DX2/50, interrupt latencies are typically > ~12usec (peaking to ~50usec) for the clock interrupt. The SIO > interrupts are likely to be somewhat worse (because they are > masked more frequently). Once the interrupt is recognized, the > DCD transition isn't noted until after any received characters > are processed. > 2) The code does not include the hooks to call hardpps(), so the PPS > signal can't be used to directly discipline the kernel PLL. > > This may or may not be an issue for you. > > I have patched sio.c on 2.2.6 to support a PPS signal,whilst > minimising the jitter within the sio interrupt handler and including a > call to hardpps(). The changed in 2.2.7 are fairly minor, so the > patch should apply fairly cleanly. Let me know if you're interested. > > I'm also looking at a solution to compensate for interrupt latencies, > but that will require additional hardware and a bi-directional > parallel port. > Hello Peter, thanks for your advice. I'm still interested in your sio.c modifi- cations for PPS support. Would you please send me the patches? Thanks in advance Burkard To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 24 04:16:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA14117 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 04:16:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA14110; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 04:16:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id LAA09826; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:28:12 +0200 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199809240928.LAA09826@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: backport of atapi-cd to -STABLE To: oppermann@pipeline.ch (Andre Oppermann) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:28:12 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: abial@nask.pl, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3608D85C.1F4D509@pipeline.ch> from "Andre Oppermann" at Sep 23, 98 01:15:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > > > > > I am backporting Soren's atapi-cd code to -STABLE, in order to access > > > > an ATAPI cd writer (HP CD-Writer+ 7200/V:003.01). > > > > > > > > I have the code mostly working (i.e. it can read audio tracks and ... ok, i have been able to write both data and audio disks now. Before this code goes into the main src tree (assuming there is agreement on this), in a couple of days i will need somebody willing to test this code on -stable (or 2.2.6/2.2.7) on other drives than the one (HP7200) i have. if somebody feels like trying drop me an email and i'll send a patchfile cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 24 11:58:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA20906 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:58:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from tetrahome.tetranet.net (tetranet.net [206.42.249.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA20896 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:58:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fee@tetrahome.tetranet.net) Received: (from fee@localhost) by tetrahome.tetranet.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id NAA08041; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:52:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:52:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Murdock To: Mike Tancsa cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: resolving ips? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980924022527.00d10bb0@sentex.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 24 Sep 1998, Mike Tancsa wrote: > At 09:04 PM 9/23/98 -0500, Mark Murdock wrote: > >Yet another question for freebsd-stable network experts: > > > >When I try to telnet to an ip address, my system attempts to contact my > >name servers in my /etc/resolv.conf file. I was actually unable to telnet > >to an ip due to this when my ipfw configuration was blocking udp on 53. > > Just give it time... It will work eventually. The system you are trying to > telnet to is trying to lookup the name of the host you are coming from so > it can log it. I have to disagree here. My name server is fully functional (as it remains outside of my local network) and could respond to reverse lookups without problem. I was watching the packets on my ppp interface, and what I was seeing was MY machine making DNS requests to MY DNS server. I was blocking these requests of course, so it was hanging, but it was the fact that it even consulted a domain name server that was interesting me. > > > >Why consult the resolver? Why not just make your connection based on the > >kernel routing tables? > > I am not sure what you mean by the routing table in this case.. What you > are describing is a DNS timeout...If you want it to work faster in this > situation, then change /etc/host.conf to list hosts first, then bind and > add the necessary information in your /etc/hosts file. > To clarify the routing table issue, I'll explain what I meant by that. If I type "telnet 10.1.1.1", I would not expect telnet to consult a DNS server to do a reverse lookup on that IP. I would expect it to consult the routing table, decide that 10.1.1.1 was either on a local subnet, through a remote gateway, or through the default route, and route my TCP SYN packet accordingly. By mentioning routing, I only meant that to ME, that was the logical step after receiving an IP address. Had I give it a host name, I would have EXPECTED it to consult DNS, and then route to the resulting IP accordingly. I hope this sheds some light on what I meant. I just think it's odd that an application like telnet does a reverse lookup on an IP. I would rather see those applications work independant of DNS when given an IP, but perhaps that's not going to happen. Mark > ---Mike > ********************************************************************** > Mike Tancsa, Network Admin * mike@sentex.net > Sentex Communications Corp, * http://www.sentex.net/mike > Cambridge, Ontario * 01.519.651.3400 > Canada * > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 24 18:51:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA02580 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 18:51:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite.sentex.ca [199.212.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA02572 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 18:51:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from ospf-mdt.sentex.net (ospf-mdt.sentex.net [205.211.164.81]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA08681 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 21:50:44 -0400 (EDT) From: mike@sentex.net (Mike Tancsa) To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: resolving ips? Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:55:31 GMT Message-ID: <360af6b3.248371779@mail.sentex.net> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:52:54 -0500 (CDT), in sentex.lists.freebsd.misc you wrote: > >> >> >> >Why consult the resolver? Why not just make your connection based on the >> >kernel routing tables? >> >> I am not sure what you mean by the routing table in this case.. What you >> are describing is a DNS timeout...If you want it to work faster in this >> situation, then change /etc/host.conf to list hosts first, then bind and >> add the necessary information in your /etc/hosts file. >> > >To clarify the routing table issue, I'll explain what I meant by that. >If I type "telnet 10.1.1.1", I would not expect telnet to consult a DNS >server to do a reverse lookup on that IP. I would expect it to consult >the routing table, decide that 10.1.1.1 was either on a local subnet, >through a remote gateway, or through the default route, and route my TCP >SYN packet accordingly. I am not sure why an application like telnet would want to concern itself with routing.. From what I understand, its the job of the OS / IP Stack to decide how to route the request. When you open a TCP socket, you dont have to specify any sort of routing. Yes, I agree that having the program do any DNS when fed an IP address is rather strange, but I guess the author thought the presentation was more important or something... ---Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 24 19:10:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA06246 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 19:10:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA06130 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 19:10:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain [203.38.152.97]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA27208; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:39:47 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:39:46 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Mark Murdock Subject: Re: resolving ips? Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Mike Tancsa Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > To clarify the routing table issue, I'll explain what I meant by that. > If I type "telnet 10.1.1.1", I would not expect telnet to consult a DNS > server to do a reverse lookup on that IP. I would expect it to consult > the routing table, decide that 10.1.1.1 was either on a local subnet, > through a remote gateway, or through the default route, and route my TCP > SYN packet accordingly. By mentioning routing, I only meant that to ME, > that was the logical step after receiving an IP address. Had I give it a > host name, I would have EXPECTED it to consult DNS, and then route to the > resulting IP accordingly. I hope this sheds some light on what I meant. Well, it could be telnetd doing the reverse lookup, or tcp wrappers etc.. I personnally fixed this stuff when I had a dialup my making my named.boot file change depending on if my link is up or down.. --------------------------------------------------------------------- |Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software | |http://www.gsoft.com.au | |The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to| |choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 24 21:50:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA26207 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 21:50:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from ms6.hinet.net (ms6.hinet.net [168.95.4.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA26171; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 21:50:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bv006x@ms22.hinet.net) Received: from mbv006732 (h80.s3.ts32.hinet.net [163.32.3.80]) by ms6.hinet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA01065; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:50:18 +0800 (CST) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:50:18 +0800 (CST) Message-Id: <199809250450.MAA01065@ms6.hinet.net> From: mbs006372@ms6.hinet.net Subject: ¥§ªyº¸_ÁÚ¦VÅq®p¡@ýyý{þ©ûBûBþ©ý{ýy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [tw] (Win95; I) Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=BIG5 to: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ¥§ªyº¸ ÁÚ¦VÅq®p ¤K¤é¡@ýyý{þ©ûBûBþ©ý{ýy «C¬K ¬¡¤O ±´¯Á¥j¤å©ú ¤Ñ¨Ïªº°ê«× ¨C¶g¤G¥Xµo:09/29.10/06.10/13.10/20.10/27.11/03 ¡@ ¦L«×ºëµØ ¶Àª÷¦L¶H ¤C¤é µn®p³y·¥ ÃÀ³N»P·R±¡ªº·¥¦Üªí²{ ¨C¶g¤é¥Xµo:09/27.10/04.10/11.10/18.10/25.11/01 ¡@ ´µ¨½Äõ¥d¦ò°ê´MÄ_ ¤C¤é ´ç°²¥ð¶¢·¥«~ ´¹¼üªºÄ_¥Û ¦ò±Ð¤å¤ÆªºÄ_Âà ¨C¶g¤@¥Xµo:09/28.10/05.10/12.10/19.10/26.11/02. ¡@ ³£¥u­n29,900.¤¸12¤ë20¤é«e ¶¶¹F®È¹C//±ë¶¶°Ñ®È ¹q¸Ü:02-¤G¤­¤»¤@-¤»¤­¤­¤»(¥N) ý{þ©ûBûBþ©ý{ýy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 24 23:16:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA04912 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 23:16:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from krdl.org.sg (rodin.krdl.org.sg [137.132.252.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA04904 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 23:16:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsriram@krdl.org.sg) Received: from mailhost.krdl.org.sg (mailbox.krdl.org.sg [137.132.247.30]) by krdl.org.sg (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id OAA04705 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 14:21:47 +0800 (SGT) Received: from nicpc44.iss.nus.sg (nicpc44 [137.132.249.48]) by mailhost.krdl.org.sg (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id OAA18553 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 14:15:47 +0800 (SGT) Received: (qmail 3081 invoked by uid 1337); 25 Sep 1998 06:22:49 -0000 Message-ID: <19980925142249.B3014@krdl.org.sg> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 14:22:49 +0800 From: X1@krdl.org.sg To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=A5=A7=AAy=BA=B8_=C1=DA=A6V=C5q=AEp=A1=40=FDy=FD{=FE=A9?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?=FBB=FBB=FE=A9=FD{=FDysnake?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What's all this crap? Stop sending such junk to this list. On Fri, Sep 25, 1998 at 12:50:18PM +0800, mbs006372@ms6.hinet.net wrote: | ¥§ªyº¸ ÁÚ¦VÅq®p ¤K¤é¡@ýyý{þ©ûBûBþ©ý{ýy | «C¬K ¬¡¤O | ±´¯Á¥j¤å©ú ¤Ñ¨Ïªº°ê«× | ¨C¶g¤G¥Xµo:09/29.10/06.10/13.10/20.10/27.11/03 | ¡@ | ¦L«×ºëµØ ¶Àª÷¦L¶H ¤C¤é | µn®p³y·¥ | ÃÀ³N»P·R±¡ªº·¥¦Üªí²{ | ¨C¶g¤é¥Xµo:09/27.10/04.10/11.10/18.10/25.11/01 | ¡@ | ´µ¨½Äõ¥d¦ò°ê´MÄ_ ¤C¤é | ´ç°²¥ð¶¢·¥«~ | ´¹¼üªºÄ_¥Û ¦ò±Ð¤å¤ÆªºÄ_Âà | ¨C¶g¤@¥Xµo:09/28.10/05.10/12.10/19.10/26.11/02. | ¡@ | ³£¥u­n29,900.¤¸12¤ë20¤é«e | ¶¶¹F®È¹C//±ë¶¶°Ñ®È ¹q¸Ü:02-¤G¤­¤»¤@-¤»¤­¤­¤»(¥N) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 25 00:04:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA12187 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 00:04:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA12159 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 00:04:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA23611; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 00:04:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: X1@krdl.org.sg cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=A5=A7=AAy=BA=B8_=C1=DA=A6V=C5q=AEp=A1=40=FDy=FD{=FE=A9?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?=FBB=FBB=FE=A9=FD{=FDysnake?= In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 25 Sep 1998 14:22:49 +0800." <19980925142249.B3014@krdl.org.sg> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 00:04:57 -0700 Message-ID: <23607.906707097@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > What's all this crap? Stop sending such junk to this list. Um, please send such "corrections" privately in the future. It's obviously silly when you get one spam and 5 messages all indignantly objecting to the spam; which is worse, the spam or the objections? You tell me. In any case, hinet.net got itself blocked after this latest spew and there will be no more mails coming from them. I already complained to the hinet.net postmaster before with no action or response, so now they're a part of email history. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 25 00:05:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA12542 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 00:05:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from aniwa.sky (pppk-06.igrin.co.nz [202.49.245.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA12489 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 00:05:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@squiz.co.nz) Received: from localhost (andrew@localhost) by aniwa.sky (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA02414; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 19:04:47 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from andrew@squiz.co.nz) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 19:04:39 +1200 (NZST) From: Andrew McNaughton X-Sender: andrew@aniwa.sky Reply-To: andrew@squiz.co.nz To: X1@krdl.org.sg cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=A5=A7=AAy=BA=B8_=C1=DA=A6V=C5q=AEp=A1=40=FDy=FD{=FE=A9?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?=FBB=FBB=FE=A9=FD{=FDysnake?= In-Reply-To: <19980925142249.B3014@krdl.org.sg> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id AAA12526 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Given that it's from singapore I presume it's cantonese. Doesn't come out well in ascii fonts. Andrew On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 X1@krdl.org.sg wrote: > Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 14:22:49 +0800 > From: X1@krdl.org.sg > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: [iso-8859-1] ¥§ªyº¸ ÁÚ¦VÅq®p¡@ýyý{þ©[iso-8859-1] ûBûBþ©ý{ýysnake > > What's all this crap? Stop sending such junk to this list. > > On Fri, Sep 25, 1998 at 12:50:18PM +0800, mbs006372@ms6.hinet.net wrote: > | ¥§ªyº¸ ÁÚ¦VÅq®p ¤K¤é¡@ýyý{þ©ûBûBþ©ý{ýy > | «C¬K ¬¡¤O > | ±´¯Á¥j¤å©ú ¤Ñ¨Ïªº°ê«× > | ¨C¶g¤G¥Xµo:09/29.10/06.10/13.10/20.10/27.11/03 > | ¡@ > | ¦L«×ºëµØ ¶Àª÷¦L¶H ¤C¤é > | µn®p³y·¥ > | ÃÀ³N»P·R±¡ªº·¥¦Üªí²{ > | ¨C¶g¤é¥Xµo:09/27.10/04.10/11.10/18.10/25.11/01 > | ¡@ > | ´µ¨½Äõ¥d¦ò°ê´MÄ_ ¤C¤é > | ´ç°²¥ð¶¢·¥«~ > | ´¹¼üªºÄ_¥Û ¦ò±Ð¤å¤ÆªºÄ_Âà > | ¨C¶g¤@¥Xµo:09/28.10/05.10/12.10/19.10/26.11/02. > | ¡@ > | ³£¥u­n29,900.¤¸12¤ë20¤é«e > | ¶¶¹F®È¹C//±ë¶¶°Ñ®È ¹q¸Ü:02-¤G¤­¤»¤@-¤»¤­¤­¤»(¥N) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 25 01:29:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA26253 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:29:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA26243 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:29:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain [203.38.152.97]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA00599 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 17:58:53 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 17:58:53 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 2.2.6 and large drives Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I am installing 2.2.6 on some systems, and they have 12Gb IDE drives (Maxtor 91360D8), but when they probe in FreeBSD it shows them as 8Gb. They have 26353 cylinders, 16 heads, and 63 sectors (so sayeth the label anyway) FreeBSD thinks they have 16383 cylinders (so does the BIOS when I do autodetect). What can I do? :) --------------------------------------------------------------------- |Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software | |http://www.gsoft.com.au | |The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to| |choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 25 01:57:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA29257 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:57:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from word.smith.net.au (castles360.castles.com [208.214.167.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA29242 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:57:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA01728; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 02:03:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@word.smith.net.au) Message-Id: <199809250903.CAA01728@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Daniel O'Connor" cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.6 and large drives In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 25 Sep 1998 17:58:53 +0930." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 02:03:06 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hi, > I am installing 2.2.6 on some systems, and they have 12Gb IDE drives > (Maxtor 91360D8), but when they probe in FreeBSD it shows them as 8Gb. > They have 26353 cylinders, 16 heads, and 63 sectors (so sayeth the > label anyway) FreeBSD thinks they have 16383 cylinders (so does the BIOS > when I do autodetect). > > What can I do? :) Change the geometry in sysinstall to match the drive. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 25 02:04:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA00843 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 02:04:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA00827 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 02:04:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain [203.38.152.97]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA00880; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 18:34:34 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199809250903.CAA01728@word.smith.net.au> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 18:34:34 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Mike Smith Subject: Re: 2.2.6 and large drives Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 25-Sep-98 Mike Smith wrote: > > What can I do? :) > Change the geometry in sysinstall to match the drive. Oops.. RTFM =) Thanks.. --------------------------------------------------------------------- |Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software | |http://www.gsoft.com.au | |The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to| |choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum | --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 25 11:11:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12349 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:11:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.dcfinc.com (freebie.dcfinc.com [138.113.5.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12342 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:11:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freebie.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freebie.dcfinc.com (8.8.7/8.8.3a) id LAA04947; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:10:16 -0700 (MST) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <199809251810.LAA04947@freebie.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: resolving ips? To: doconnor@gsoft.com.au (Daniel O'Connor) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:10:16 -0700 (MST) Cc: fee@tetrahome.tetranet.net, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, mike@sentex.net In-Reply-To: from Daniel O'Connor at "Sep 25, 98 11:39:46 am" Reply-to: chad@dcfinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > If I type "telnet 10.1.1.1", I would not expect telnet to consult a DNS > > server to do a reverse lookup on that IP. I would expect it to consult > > the routing table, decide that 10.1.1.1 was either on a local subnet, > > through a remote gateway, or through the default route, and route my TCP > > SYN packet accordingly. The telnet client is doing the DNS lookup (actually, a call to gethostbyname() ) in order to be able to display the remote host's name when you do the "status" command. It probably uses the hostname in other places as well... -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org chad@anasazi.com larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 25 16:02:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA01830 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 16:02:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from sodium.network-alchemy.com (Sodium.Network-Alchemy.COM [199.46.17.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA01814 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 16:02:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from key@Network-Alchemy.COM) Received: from sodium.network-alchemy.com (localhost.network-alchemy.com [127.0.0.1]) by sodium.network-alchemy.com (8.8.7/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05805; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 16:02:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from key@network-alchemy.com) Message-Id: <199809252302.QAA05805@sodium.network-alchemy.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG cc: key@Network-Alchemy.COM From: key@KSquared.Net Subject: Broken Pipe on rsh to account using /bin/csh in v2.2.7 Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 16:02:25 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Folks, I've searched my archive of freebsd-stable and haven't seen a discussion of this yet. I've got some machines with v2.2.7. When I rsh to accounts on them that use /bin/csh I get no output and rsh exits with "Broken pipe". I added some debugging to rshd on a v2.2.7 box and I can see that we appear to successfully call execl() with the shell and all the arguments look good. If the login shell is anything other than csh (tested /usr/local/bin/tcsh, /bin/sh, /usr/local/bin/bash), rsh works. And rlogin, etc works fine. Anyone know where I should start looking? I pulled /bin/csh source from v2.2.5, compiled on the v2.2.7, it has the same problem. So, anyone have an idea where I should look next? In the execl() call? Thanks, Ken Key (key@Ksquared.Net) -- Ken Key Santa Cruz, CA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 25 23:41:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA27693 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 23:41:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from outbound.Princeton.EDU (outbound.Princeton.EDU [128.112.128.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA27665 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 23:41:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pentchev@outbound.Princeton.EDU) Received: from IDENT-NOT-QUERIED@outbound.Princeton.EDU (port 57815 [128.112.128.88]) by outbound.Princeton.EDU with ESMTP id <67446-1460>; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 02:40:55 -0400 Received: from mail.Princeton.EDU (mail.Princeton.EDU [128.112.129.14]) by Princeton.EDU (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA24120 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 02:40:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from beleriand.princeton.edu (roam@pentchev.student.Princeton.EDU [140.180.138.60]) by mail.Princeton.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id CAA02862 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 02:40:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <360C99B7.167EB0E7@princeton.edu> Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 02:37:27 -0500 From: Peter Pentchev X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subsribe freebsd-stable To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 26 07:12:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA06228 for freebsd-stable-outgoing; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 07:12:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA06223 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 07:12:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from mail.siemens.de (salomon.siemens.de [139.23.33.13]) by david.siemens.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA11706 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 16:12:19 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (daemon@curry.mchp.siemens.de [146.180.31.23]) by mail.siemens.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA03122 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 16:12:20 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA24511 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 16:12:20 +0200 (CEST) From: Andre Albsmeier Message-Id: <199809261412.QAA08224@internal> Subject: Re: Broken Pipe on rsh to account using /bin/csh in v2.2.7 In-Reply-To: <199809252302.QAA05805@sodium.network-alchemy.com> from "key@KSquared.Net" at "Sep 25, 98 04:02:25 pm" To: key@KSquared.Net Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 16:12:18 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, key@Network-Alchemy.COM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hi Folks, > > I've searched my archive of freebsd-stable and haven't seen a discussion > of this yet. I've got some machines with v2.2.7. When I rsh to > accounts on them that use /bin/csh I get no output and rsh exits with > "Broken pipe". I added some debugging to rshd on a v2.2.7 box and > I can see that we appear to successfully call execl() with > the shell and all the arguments look good. If the login shell is > anything other than csh (tested /usr/local/bin/tcsh, /bin/sh, > /usr/local/bin/bash), rsh works. And rlogin, etc works fine. > > Anyone know where I should start looking? I pulled /bin/csh source from > v2.2.5, compiled on the v2.2.7, it has the same problem. So, > anyone have an idea where I should look next? In the execl() call? http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=7381 -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message