From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 2:48:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from camtech.net.au (goliath.camtech.net.au [203.5.73.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D1C9B1525C for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 02:48:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@camtech.net.au) Received: from dialup-ad-12-22.camtech.net.au ([203.55.242.22]) by camtech.net.au ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 19:18:34 +0930 Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 19:19:41 +0930 (CST) From: Matthew Thyer X-Sender: matt@localhost Reply-To: thyerm@camtech.net.au To: Tom Embt Cc: "Gray, David W." , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compupic - yes, it works. In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990910231146.0076d004@mail.embt.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Some kind of unionfs seems to be required for our compat stuff. Forgive me if I dont know what I'm talking about but isn't it true that a unionfs would just override those files in /usr that existed in the Linux emulation space ? I suppose there would be problems when Linux binaries would 'see' FreeBSD libraries and try to use them. Anyway to help with your trying to find files in /usr I do the following: - have home directories mounted under /home. - when I do need to use a dialog box to open a file under /usr I type in the directory name first and 'filter' on that (I'm thinking Linux Netscape here). Then you can keep browsing down through sub directories if you wish. On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Tom Embt wrote: > Now another question: Have you been able to get to /usr? When I try to > bring it up I get /compat/linux/usr instead. At least /home works.. :) > > > > Tom Embt > tom@embt.com -- /=======================================================================\ | Work: Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au | Home: thyerm@camtech.net.au | \=======================================================================/ "If it is true that our Universe has a zero net value for all conserved quantities, then it may simply be a fluctuation of the vacuum of some larger space in which our Universe is imbedded. In answer to the question of why it happened, I offer the modest proposal that our Universe is simply one of those things which happen from time to time." E. P. Tryon from "Nature" Vol.246 Dec.14, 1973 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 2:57:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 648171525C for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 02:57:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ron@zappa.demon.nl) Received: from [195.173.232.30] (helo=win98) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11Q6Q8-000815-00 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 09:59:40 +0000 From: "Ron Klinkien" To: Subject: Help! System won't boot the normal way after a make world... Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 11:57:45 +0200 Message-ID: <000301befd05$43866ea0$0301a8c0@.demon.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Using FreeBSD 4.0 current for quite some time and staying current with cvsup work fine for me a few months. But today shit hits the fan, after a make world my system won't boot without errors and manual interference.. ---------------- last part of dmesg after boot -v --------- : changing root device to da0s1a da0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: Serial Number JDW582790LFGXG da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 4094MB (8385121 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 521C) da0s1: type 0xa5, start 0, end = 8385120, size 8385121 da0s1: C/H/S end 521/242/10 (1268459) != end 8385120: invalid start_init: trying /sbin/init file: table is full file: table is full file: table is full file: table is full ------------------------------------------------------------ The console reports instead of the file: lines: .: out of file descriptors Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: I can let it go to multiuser when i do the following: exec /etc/rc and type CTRL-C/D a couple of times, letting it skip the first processes it start. I don't know where to look, the msgs assume there is something wrong with the disk/filesystems (da0s1: C/H/S end 521/242/10 (1268459) != end 8385120: invalid ) But i can fsck and mount them all without errors... There are no full filesystems: zappa# df -k Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0s1a 99183 22952 68297 25% / /dev/da0s1h 1205119 502981 605729 45% /dump /dev/da0s1e 1016303 791947 143052 85% /usr /dev/da0s1f 744175 256046 428595 37% /usr/src /dev/da0s1g 744175 6214 678427 1% /var procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc After the manual multi-user mode I can even do a new make world and make kernel but it doesn't change anything. Something in the early /sbin/init part goes wrong, can anyone describe the boot process in this stage? Regards, Ron. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 2:58:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 542) id 230131525C; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 02:58:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 02:58:15 -0700 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: something wrong with new CVS on freefall Message-ID: <19990912025814.A34472@freebsd.org> References: <19990912071315.A36887@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990912071315.A36887@nagual.pp.ru>; from ache@nagual.pp.ru on Sun, Sep 12, 1999 at 07:13:15AM +0400 Organization: Biomechanoid Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Sep 12, 1999 at 07:13:15AM +0400, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > I can't commit ee.c because CVS says > ee.c - Does not contain a line with the keyword "$FreeBSD:". > > but the file ee.c _have_ "$FreeBSD: keyword, check by yourself. > Please fix. It is because oly first 50 lines checked in commit_prep.pl, but ee.c have more 50 comments lines. for ($i = 1; $i < 50; $i++) { I'll increase it to 70 as temp solution. -- Andrey A. Chernov http://nagual.pp.ru/~ache/ MTH/SH/HE S-- W-- N+ PEC>+ D A a++ C G>+ QH+(++) 666+>++ Y To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 3: 4: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from camtech.net.au (goliath.camtech.net.au [203.5.73.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 541831525C for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 03:03:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@camtech.net.au) Received: from dialup-ad-12-22.camtech.net.au ([203.55.242.22]) by camtech.net.au ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 19:33:57 +0930 Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 19:35:04 +0930 (CST) From: Matthew Thyer X-Sender: matt@localhost Reply-To: thyerm@camtech.net.au To: Mark Hittinger Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: evil -current In-Reply-To: <199909072242.RAA15509@freebsd.netcom.com.> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Boot off a CD-ROM or floppy disk set, start the fixit shell and then: fsck -b 32 may help you. I had to do this recently after overclocking my PCI bus. That is a last resort process which you might need to try if other recovery processes dont help (such as a normal fsck of your root filesystem after booting off floppy disks). Of course my problem was of my own doing nothing to do with -CURRENT which has given me years of mostly trouble free operation. If you have been reading the cvs-all and freebsd-current mailing lists you will know that there has been a huge level of changes to -CURRENT over the last month or so and there is bound to be some instability while these changes settle down. If you aren't reading these lists then I dont know how you can run -CURRENT. On Tue, 7 Sep 1999, Mark Hittinger wrote: > > Lots of sig11, then hang, reboot, my system drive is no longer considered > "bootable". Looks like bad bad things. > > Later > > Mark Hittinger > Mindspring/Netcom/Dallas > bugs@freebsd.netcom.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > -- /=======================================================================\ | Work: Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au | Home: thyerm@camtech.net.au | \=======================================================================/ "If it is true that our Universe has a zero net value for all conserved quantities, then it may simply be a fluctuation of the vacuum of some larger space in which our Universe is imbedded. In answer to the question of why it happened, I offer the modest proposal that our Universe is simply one of those things which happen from time to time." E. P. Tryon from "Nature" Vol.246 Dec.14, 1973 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 3:45:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles527.castles.com [208.214.165.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA10C14E0E for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 03:45:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA02028; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 03:38:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199909121038.DAA02028@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Ron Klinkien" Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help! System won't boot the normal way after a make world... In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 12 Sep 1999 11:57:45 +0200." <000301befd05$43866ea0$0301a8c0@.demon.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 03:38:22 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > Using FreeBSD 4.0 current for quite some time > and staying current with cvsup work fine for me a few months. > > But today shit hits the fan, after a make world my system won't boot without > errors and manual interference.. ... > .: out of file descriptors > Enter full pathname of shell or RETURN for /bin/sh: You copied /etc/defaults/rc.conf to /etc/rc.conf. Read /etc/defaults/rc.conf and don't do it again. -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 6:19:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from smtp03.wxs.nl (smtp03.wxs.nl [195.121.6.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF6B1533E for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 06:19:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.196.148]) by smtp03.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA24E8 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 15:19:11 +0200 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA82904 for current@freebsd.org; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 15:20:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 15:20:02 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: current@freebsd.org Subject: more Message-ID: <19990912152002.D81750@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just a question, who changed more's behaviour? On this CURRENT of 3-4 weeks old I can do /blah and then use / to find the next occurance of blah in the same file. With the `new' more this behaviour has been barfed. Wonder why and who... -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist BSD: Technical excellence at its best There is no greater sorrow than to recall, in misery, the time when we were happy. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 6:58: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC8914E85 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 06:58:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15778 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 15:58:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 15:58:01 +0200 (CEST) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <199909121358.PAA15778@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: optional 'make release' speed-up patch Organization: Administration Heim 3 Reply-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 RZTUC(3) PL2] Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matthew Thyer wrote in list.freebsd-current: > YES please fix this ridiculous inefficiency pointed out by Rod! There's nothing broken, so there's nothing to fix (IMO). > The current method of cleaning the build tree is to chflags -R and > then rm -r which results in two full traversals of the entire /usr/obj > tree which takes MUCH longer than attempting an rm -r first followed by > a chflags -R and another rm -r. Uhm, what are you talking about? The Makefile does exactly that: # The first command will fail on a handful of files that have their schg # flags set. But it greatly speeds up the next two commands. -rm -rf ${CHROOTDIR} -chflags -R noschg ${CHROOTDIR}/. -rm -rf ${CHROOTDIR} Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 7:42:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from smtp11.bellglobal.com (smtp11.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F4E14E76 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 07:42:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vanderh@ecf.toronto.edu) Received: from localhost.nowhere (ppp1072.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.224.112]) by smtp11.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22361; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 10:46:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by localhost.nowhere (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA11499; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 10:38:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tim) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 10:38:01 -0400 From: Tim Vanderhoek To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: more Message-ID: <19990912103801.C7124@mad> References: <19990912152002.D81750@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <19990912152002.D81750@daemon.ninth-circle.org>; from Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai on Sun, Sep 12, 1999 at 03:20:02PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Sep 12, 1999 at 03:20:02PM +0200, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > > On this CURRENT of 3-4 weeks old I can do /blah and then use / to find > the next occurance of blah in the same file. > > With the `new' more this behaviour has been barfed. Accidentally. I didn't notice that particular (mis?)-feature when reading the older code. I'll re-add it. You can, of course, also use "n" in the meantime. Of course, one really wonders why we need "/\n" to be a synonym for "n", but I hadn't meant to change this behaviour. -- This is my .signature which gets appended to the end of my messages. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 7:46:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from midget.dons.net.au (daniel.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.137.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096E314E76 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 07:46:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from darius@dons.net.au) Received: from guppy.dons.net.au (guppy.dons.net.au [203.31.81.9]) by midget.dons.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA24760 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 00:16:43 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from darius@dons.net.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 00:16:33 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel J. O'Connor" To: current@freebsd.org Subject: What's wrong with this picture? Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG last pid: 548; load averages: 2.94, 2.55, 2.30 up 0+01:05:36 00:14:35 64 processes: 4 running, 60 sleeping CPU states: 50.4% user, 48.2% nice, 1.2% system, 0.2% interrupt, 0.0% idle Mem: 81M Active, 18M Inact, 18M Wired, 5004K Cache, 11M Buf, 1108K Free Swap: 200M Total, 1624K Used, 198M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 543 root 105 0 5772K 1656K RUN 1 1:58 96.36% 96.14% lame 309 nobody 40 22 13780K 13364K CPU0 0 60:57 47.41% 47.41% setiathome 306 nobody 92 22 14804K 14388K RUN 1 61:02 47.12% 47.12% setiathome ... ... Processor one is working at %143?! I must have AMP instead of SMP :) This is a -current machine which is < 4 days old. Dual PII-350 w/ 128 meg of RAM. Is it a known problem? --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 7:50:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from des.follo.net (des.follo.net [195.204.143.216]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4672A1532A; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 07:50:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@des.follo.net) Received: (from des@localhost) by des.follo.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA00836; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 16:50:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from des) To: cg@freebsd.org Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: newpcm and Vibra16X Organization: Yes Interactive Visit-Us-At: http://www.yes.no/ From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 12 Sep 1999 16:50:24 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 261 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 19.34 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What's the verdict on newpcm and Vibra16X? Has anyone had any luck in finding out why it doesn't work, or how to make it work? Mine won't make any sound at all (except for the usual noise) no matter what I do - play mp3s, cat my kernel into /dev/audio0, whatever. Kernel config, dmesg.boot and pnpinfo output are included below. If you want a more verbose dmesg.boot, say the word, but I'd rather not boot this box unless I really must. DES (wants his music back...) -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@yes.no # Kernel configuration for des.follo.net machine i386 cpu I586_CPU cpu I686_CPU ident DES maxusers 32 makeoptions DEBUG=-g options AUTO_EOI_1 options AUTO_EOI_2 options COMPAT_43 options FFS options FFS_ROOT options ICMP_BANDLIM options INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE options INET options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE options KTRACE options NMBCLUSTERS=8192 options PROCFS options SOFTUPDATES options SYSVMSG options SYSVSEM options SYSVSHM options TCP_DROP_SYNFIN options TCP_RESTRICT_RST options UCONSOLE options USERCONFIG options VESA options VISUAL_USERCONFIG config kernel controller isa0 controller pci0 controller pnp0 device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 device apm0 at isa? disable device pcm0 controller fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 controller wdc0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 flags 0xa0ffa0ff disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 controller wdc1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 flags 0xa0ffa0ff disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 controller atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 device vga0 at isa? port ? conflicts pseudo-device splash device sc0 at isa? options SC_DFLT_FONT makeoptions SC_DFLT_FONT=iso options MSGBUF_SIZE=32768 options SC_HISTORY_SIZE=1024 device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 device ppc0 at isa? port? irq 7 controller ppbus0 device lpt0 at ppbus? device plip0 at ppbus? device ppi0 at ppbus? controller miibus0 device xl0 pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device tun 4 pseudo-device bpf 4 pseudo-device pty 64 pseudo-device vn 4 Copyright (c) 1992-1999 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #12: Sat Sep 11 11:02:43 CEST 1999 des@des.follo.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/DES Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (350.80-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x58c Stepping = 12 Features=0x8021bf AMD Features=0x80000800 real memory = 134201344 (131056K bytes) avail memory = 127094784 (124116K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02c1000. Preloaded splash_image_data "/boot/splash.pcx" at 0xc02c109c. Preloaded elf module "splash_pcx.ko" at 0xc02c10ec. VESA: v2.0, 8192k memory, flags:0x1, mode table:0xc0238de2 (1000022) VESA: Matrox Graphics Inc. npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 vga-pci0: irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci1 chip1: at device 3.0 on pci0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 devclass_alloc_unit: apm0 already exists, using next available unit number isa0: on isab0 xl0: <3Com 3c900-COMBO Etherlink XL> irq 12 at device 11.0 on pci0 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:60:08:cf:a8:e4 xl0: selecting 10baseT transceiver, half duplex ide_pci0: irq 0 at device 15.0 on pci0 apm1: not probed (disabled) fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 wdc0 at port 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 flags 0xa0ffa0ff on isa0 wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): , DMA, 32-bit, multi-block-16 wd0: 9641MB (19746720 sectors), 19590 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S atkbdc0: at port 0x60-0x6f on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 vga0: at port 0x3b0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0 at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/7 bytes threshold plip0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus 0 pcm0: at port 0x220-0x22f,0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b irq 5 drq 1,3 on isa0 unknown0: at port 0x201 on isa0 IP packet filtering initialized, divert disabled, rule-based forwarding disabled, unlimited logging changing root device to wd0s4a changing root device to wd0a Checking for Plug-n-Play devices... Card assigned CSN #1 Vendor ID CTL00f0 (0xf0008c0e), Serial Number 0xffffffff PnP Version 1.0, Vendor Version 16 Device Description: Creative ViBRA16X PnP Logical Device ID: CTL0043 0x43008c0e #0 Device Description: Audio TAG Start DF Good Configuration IRQ: 5 - only one type (true/edge) DMA: channel(s) 1 8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode DMA: channel(s) 3 8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x220, alignment 0x1, len 0x10 [16-bit addr] I/O Range 0x330 .. 0x330, alignment 0x1, len 0x2 [16-bit addr] I/O Range 0x388 .. 0x388, alignment 0x1, len 0x4 [16-bit addr] TAG Start DF Acceptable Configuration IRQ: 5 7 9 10 - only one type (true/edge) DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10 [16-bit addr] I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x30, len 0x2 [16-bit addr] I/O Range 0x388 .. 0x388, alignment 0x1, len 0x4 [16-bit addr] TAG Start DF Acceptable Configuration IRQ: 5 7 9 10 - only one type (true/edge) DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10 [16-bit addr] I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x30, len 0x2 [16-bit addr] TAG Start DF Acceptable Configuration IRQ: 5 7 9 10 - only one type (true/edge) DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10 [16-bit addr] TAG Start DF Sub-optimal Configuration IRQ: 5 7 9 10 - only one type (true/edge) DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10 [16-bit addr] I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x10, len 0x2 [16-bit addr] I/O Range 0x388 .. 0x394, alignment 0x4, len 0x4 [16-bit addr] TAG Start DF Sub-optimal Configuration IRQ: 5 7 9 10 - only one type (true/edge) DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10 [16-bit addr] TAG End DF Logical Device ID: CTL7005 0x05708c0e #1 Compatible Device ID: PNPb02f (2fb0d041) Device Description: Game TAG Start DF Good Configuration I/O Range 0x201 .. 0x201, alignment 0x1, len 0x1 [16-bit addr] TAG Start DF Acceptable Configuration I/O Range 0x200 .. 0x20f, alignment 0x1, len 0x1 [16-bit addr] TAG End DF End Tag Successfully got 48 resources, 2 logical fdevs -- card select # 0x0001 CSN CTL00f0 (0xf0008c0e), Serial Number 0xffffffff Logical device #0 IO: 0x0220 0x0220 0x0220 0x0220 0x0220 0x0220 0x0220 0x0220 IRQ 5 0 DMA 1 3 IO range check 0x00 activate 0x01 Logical device #1 IO: 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 IRQ 0 0 DMA 4 4 IO range check 0x00 activate 0x01 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 8:22:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from shattered.disturbed.net (shattered.disturbed.net [205.236.147.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 482FE15409; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 08:22:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from veers@disturbed.net) Received: from shattered.disturbed.net ([205.236.147.18]:59406 "EHLO shattered.disturbed.net") by disturbed.net with ESMTP id ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 11:21:59 -0400 Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 11:21:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Perel To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: cg@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: newpcm and Vibra16X In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 12 Sep 1999, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > What's the verdict on newpcm and Vibra16X? Has anyone had any luck in > finding out why it doesn't work, or how to make it work? Mine won't > make any sound at all (except for the usual noise) no matter what I do > - play mp3s, cat my kernel into /dev/audio0, whatever. Kernel config, > dmesg.boot and pnpinfo output are included below. If you want a more > verbose dmesg.boot, say the word, but I'd rather not boot this box > unless I really must. Well, it MOSTLY works for me. controller pnp0 device pcm0 This boots fine: unknown0: on isa0 pcm0: at port 0x220-0x22f,0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b irq 5 drq 1,5 on isa0 Unfortunately, I can't seem to get the driver to play .au files corectly when I cat (or dd) them to /dev/audio. It plays for a few seconds then abruptly dies. Hmm. Cameron? However playing MP3s and the likes works fine for me. Why I'm happily listening to your favorite music right now! :) Alex G. Perel -=- AP5081 veers@disturbed.net -=- veers@samurai.com Disturbed Networks - Powered exclusively by FreeBSD == The Power to Serve -=- http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 8:41:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from camtech.net.au (goliath.camtech.net.au [203.5.73.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 32CF814F49 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 08:41:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@camtech.net.au) Received: from dialup-ad-10-103.camtech.net.au ([203.28.1.231]) by camtech.net.au ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 01:11:02 +0930 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 01:12:09 +0930 (CST) From: Matthew Thyer X-Sender: matt@localhost Reply-To: thyerm@camtech.net.au To: wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: FreeBSD-CURRENT rl driver not auto-negotiating ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1825141590-937150929=:453" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1825141590-937150929=:453 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Bill, Firstly, a great job on the rl driver (I'm amazed that you have made it this good considering the hardware). Anyway my problem is that since the rl driver has required "controller miibus0" in the kernel it has not auto-negotiated its network link properly for me (though I do appreciate the fast kernel probe time ;). It seems to be defaulting to full duplex now when it wasn't before the "controller miibus0" stuff went in. I find that I now have to change my /etc/rc.conf line from: ifconfig_rl0="inet 10.0.0.27 netmask 255.0.0.0" to: ifconfig_rl0="inet 10.0.0.27 netmask 255.0.0.0 media 10BaseT/UTP -mediaopt full-duplex" Interestingly "mediaopt half-duplex" doesn't work with error: "ifconfig: SIOCSIFMEDIA: Device not configured" Is this all expected behaviour ? If I dont do the above, I get terrible ftp speeds on my local 10BaseT/UTP network (3 KB/sec instead of the 1 MB/sec I am used to). I have a 3COM Linkbuilder hub and two machines. My old machine is a P150 with an NE2000 clone. My new machine is a PII Celeron 450 with a RealTek 8139 (a SureCom Networks SN5000 card - but that wont mean anything as I bought it because it wasn't a RealTek when my friend bought it... it was a VIA Rhine then.... I was really trying to avoid a RealTek!!). My kernel from before the move to the "controller miibus0" stuff works fine without any media options. Dmesg and kernel config file attached. Thanks in advance. CCd to the list for the benefit of others. -- /=======================================================================\ | Work: Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au | Home: thyerm@camtech.net.au | \=======================================================================/ "If it is true that our Universe has a zero net value for all conserved quantities, then it may simply be a fluctuation of the vacuum of some larger space in which our Universe is imbedded. In answer to the question of why it happened, I offer the modest proposal that our Universe is simply one of those things which happen from time to time." E. P. 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Subject: Re: more Message-ID: <19990912180827.A83446@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <19990912152002.D81750@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <19990912103801.C7124@mad> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: <19990912103801.C7124@mad> Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Tim Vanderhoek (vanderh@ecf.utoronto.ca) [990912 17:50]: >On Sun, Sep 12, 1999 at 03:20:02PM +0200, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: >> >> On this CURRENT of 3-4 weeks old I can do /blah and then use / to find >> the next occurance of blah in the same file. >> >> With the `new' more this behaviour has been barfed. > >Accidentally. I didn't notice that particular (mis?)-feature when >reading the older code. I'll re-add it. You can, of course, also use >"n" in the meantime. *nod* That's ok. I was merely curious as to the why. I am used to using it, but I can easily adopt myself to using `n'. Just wonder who else wants this behaviour to stay away and come back. It's not like I am emotionally attached to it =) >Of course, one really wonders why we need "/\n" to be a synonym for >"n", but I hadn't meant to change this behaviour. That's ok =) Cheers, -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist BSD: Technical excellence at its best Millions for defense but not one cent for tribute. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 9:39:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub.scl.ameslab.gov (mailhub.scl.ameslab.gov [147.155.137.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D88F9155A7 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 09:39:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ghelmer@scl.ameslab.gov) Received: from demios.ether.scl.ameslab.gov ([147.155.137.54]) by mailhub.scl.ameslab.gov with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11QCed-0001Zu-00 for current@freebsd.org; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 11:39:03 -0500 Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 11:39:03 -0500 From: Guy Helmer To: current@freebsd.org Subject: New pnp code and D-Link DE-220 PNP ISA Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG One of my machines with a D-Link DE-220 PNP ISA card that is running current (most recently cvsupped today, Sept. 12) does not recognize the D-Link card. It used to be recognized without problems on the old PNP code. pnpinfo reports the same thing under both working and non-working kernels: ----- Checking for Plug-n-Play devices... Card assigned CSN #1 Vendor ID DLK2201 (0x01228b11), Serial Number 0xd51b55c8 PnP Version 1.0, Vendor Version 0 Device Description: D-Link DE-220 Ethernet Card Logical Device ID: DLK2201 0x01228b11 #0 Device supports I/O Range Check Compatible Device ID: PNP80d6 (d680d041) I/O Range 0x200 .. 0x3e0, alignment 0x20, len 0x20 [not 16-bit addr] IRQ: 3 5 9 10 11 12 15 IRQ: High true edge sensitive End Tag Successfully got 6 resources, 1 logical fdevs -- card select # 0x0001 CSN DLK2201 (0x01228b11), Serial Number 0xd51b55c8 Logical device #0 IO: 0x0220 0x0220 0x0220 0x0220 0x0220 0x0220 0x0220 0x0220 IRQ 11 0 DMA 4 4 IO range check 0x00 activate 0x01 ---- The card used to be recognized: ---- ... Probing for PnP devices: CSN 1 Vendor ID: DLK2201 [0x01228b11] Serial 0xd51b55c8 Comp ID: PNP80d6 [0xd680d041] ed1: address 00:80:c8:55:1b:d5, type NE2000 (16 bit) ed1 (edpnp sn 0xd51b55c8) at 0x220-0x23f irq 11 on isa ... ---- but now: ---- ... Probing for PnP devices on ppbus0: plip0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus 0 unknown0: on isa0 ata1: unwanted interrupt 1 status = 00 ... ---- I've tried adding the vendor ID to /sys/i386/isa/if_ed.c to no avail. I've compared my kernel config to GENERIC and it seems OK. Any ideas? Thanks, Guy Guy Helmer, Ph.D. Candidate, Iowa State University Dept. of Computer Science Research Assistant, Ames Laboratory --- ghelmer@scl.ameslab.gov Research Assistant, Dept. of Computer Science --- ghelmer@cs.iastate.edu Teaching Assistant, ComS 652 Distributed Operating Systems http://www.cs.iastate.edu/~ghelmer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 10:19:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08AC14CCC for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 10:19:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA31132 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 10:19:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199909121719.KAA31132@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: optional 'make release' speed-up patch In-Reply-To: <199909121358.PAA15778@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> from Oliver Fromme at "Sep 12, 1999 03:58:01 pm" To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 10:19:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Charset ISO-8859-1 unsupported, filtering to ASCII...] > Matthew Thyer wrote in list.freebsd-current: > > YES please fix this ridiculous inefficiency pointed out by Rod! > > There's nothing broken, so there's nothing to fix (IMO). > > > The current method of cleaning the build tree is to chflags -R and > > then rm -r which results in two full traversals of the entire /usr/obj > > tree which takes MUCH longer than attempting an rm -r first followed by > > a chflags -R and another rm -r. > > Uhm, what are you talking about? The Makefile does exactly > that: > > > # The first command will fail on a handful of files that have their schg > # flags set. But it greatly speeds up the next two commands. > -rm -rf ${CHROOTDIR} > -chflags -R noschg ${CHROOTDIR}/. ^(sic) > -rm -rf ${CHROOTDIR} > My original message is not quoted enough in detail here to see the difference. But there is a difference: CHROOTDIR == /usr/obj/${.CURDIR}/tmp != /usr/obj/${.CURDIR} The above sub-optimization only rapidly deletes the chroot tool dir, aka /usr/obj/${.CURDIR}/tmp, not /usr/obj/${.CURDIR}. This is the second person to make this mistake, so don't feel bad. Another side effect of my ``fix'' is it restores the intended behavior by the original author of ``make cleandir''. The current code will leave things behind in /usr/obj if a node of the tree is removed as it depends on the tree traversal to clean things up, and if the node is no longer traversed into it will remain in /usr/obj/ until someone manually cleans it out. -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 10:56:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 816DD14BC7 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 10:56:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA03417; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 10:56:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA38620; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 10:56:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 10:56:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199909121756.KAA38620@vashon.polstra.com> To: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu Subject: Re: An FS question perhaps... non blocking I/O. In-Reply-To: <199909091954.PAA13059@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> References: <000601befafb$83fbb8c0$291c453f@kbyanc.alcnet.com> <199909091954.PAA13059@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <199909091954.PAA13059@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>, Garrett Wollman wrote: [POLLEXTEND, POLLATTRIB, POLLNLINK, POLLWRITE] > It is probably undocumented. I was a bit reluctant to document it > since I know that the interface is not correct. One of these days, > I (or more likely some enterprising young hacker) will fix it. Just to avoid duplicated effort: I currently have work in progress on a "fslog" pseudo-device. It enables you to monitor a filesystem and receive notifications for all interesting changes to files and directories. This includes reads, writes, renames, file creations, unlinks, links, etc. -- anything that changes the stat(2) results for a file, or causes directory entries to be created, destroyed, or changed. The device itself is working, but so far I have implemented the support for only a few of the event types. It won't take much more work to finish it. My personal interest is to allow a CVSup master server to avoid doing a tree walk whenever a client connects. I want to provide the functionality of the old "supscan" utility, but in real time. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up." -- Nora Ephron To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 11: 0:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from wopr.caltech.edu (wopr.caltech.edu [131.215.240.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE40E14C22 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 11:00:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mph@wopr.caltech.edu) Received: (from mph@localhost) by wopr.caltech.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA45542; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 11:00:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mph) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 11:00:40 -0700 From: Matthew Hunt To: Tim Vanderhoek Cc: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: more Message-ID: <19990912110040.B45401@wopr.caltech.edu> References: <19990912152002.D81750@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <19990912103801.C7124@mad> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990912103801.C7124@mad>; from Tim Vanderhoek on Sun, Sep 12, 1999 at 10:38:01AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Sep 12, 1999 at 10:38:01AM -0400, Tim Vanderhoek wrote: > Of course, one really wonders why we need "/\n" to be a synonym for > "n", but I hadn't meant to change this behaviour. Because it works in vi(1), and I'm used to it? Actually, I use less(1) exclusively, so I don't care, but that is simply how I am used to repeating a search. I learned it before "n". -- Matthew Hunt * UNIX is a lever for the http://www.pobox.com/~mph/ * intellect. -J.R. Mashey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 11: 1:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8067314C3B for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 11:01:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA31185; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 10:41:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199909121741.KAA31185@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: more In-Reply-To: <19990912180827.A83446@daemon.ninth-circle.org> from Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai at "Sep 12, 1999 06:08:27 pm" To: asmodai@wxs.nl (Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 10:41:09 -0700 (PDT) Cc: vanderh@ecf.utoronto.ca (Tim Vanderhoek), current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > * Tim Vanderhoek (vanderh@ecf.utoronto.ca) [990912 17:50]: > >On Sun, Sep 12, 1999 at 03:20:02PM +0200, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: > >> > >> On this CURRENT of 3-4 weeks old I can do /blah and then use / to find > >> the next occurance of blah in the same file. > >> > >> With the `new' more this behaviour has been barfed. > > > >Accidentally. I didn't notice that particular (mis?)-feature when > >reading the older code. I'll re-add it. You can, of course, also use > >"n" in the meantime. > > *nod* > > That's ok. I was merely curious as to the why. I am used to using it, > but I can easily adopt myself to using `n'. The rest of us aren't so willing to ``adopt `n'''. Please fix it. > Just wonder who else wants this behaviour to stay away and come back. > It's not like I am emotionally attached to it =) Old die hards are though! > > >Of course, one really wonders why we need "/\n" to be a synonym for > >"n", but I hadn't meant to change this behaviour. Because it's been that way for as long as I can remeber, and that is a long long time. vi does this too, as does ex. Is what I really wonder is ``why do we need ``n''. Oh... was it added for the folks who couldn't handle the fact that a command with no argument is the same as the command with the last argument to that command :-). You'll also note that there is no opposite to ``n'', but / and ? are symetrical operations using the same ``last argument''. n keeps the direction of the last search, I suppose that might be handy just in case you forgot what way it was you where going... :-). The man page fails to clearly describe the behavior with respect to the null last pattern on / and ? :-(. > That's ok =) Not with me, and I am sure Warner and a few other die hard ``more'' users are going to be chimming in here as soon as they get to this... -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 11: 6:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBDA714CCC for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 11:06:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (adsl-216-62-157-60.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.05.24.18.28.p7) with ESMTP id <0FHY000O8KZ4FQ@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 13:06:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA66769; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 13:06:38 -0500 (CDT envelope-from chris) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 13:06:38 -0500 From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: more In-reply-to: <199909121741.KAA31185@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai , Tim Vanderhoek , current@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19990912130638.B16388@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.6i References: <19990912180827.A83446@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <199909121741.KAA31185@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Sep 12, 1999, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > Not with me, and I am sure Warner and a few other die hard ``more'' users > are going to be chimming in here as soon as they get to this... Down with "n"! Up with "/"! -- |Chris Costello |Entropy isn't what it used to be. `---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 11: 7:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D997C154DC for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 11:07:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (adsl-216-62-157-60.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) by mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.05.24.18.28.p7) with ESMTP id <0FHY007Y6KY6K9@mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net> for current@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 13:07:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA66747 for current@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 13:05:19 -0500 (CDT envelope-from chris) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 13:05:18 -0500 From: Chris Costello Subject: World breaks (~12:00 noon, CST) To: current@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19990912130518.A16388@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.6i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I get the following world breakage in -CURRENT as of ~12:00 CST, September 12: /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c: In function `study_chunk': /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c:266: invalid lvalue in assignment /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c:279: invalid lvalue in assignment /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c:327: invalid lvalue in assignment /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c:463: warning: suggest parentheses around && within || /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c:608: invalid lvalue in assignment /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c:404: warning: `pos_before' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c:404: warning: `fl' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c: In function `add_data': /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c:688: warning: implicit declaration of function `Renewc' /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c:690: parse error before `char' /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c:695: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c: In function `Perl_pregcomp': /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c:796: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c:726: warning: unused variable `longest_float' /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c:725: warning: unused variable `longest_fixed' /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c:724: warning: unused variable `longest' /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c: In function `regpiece': /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c:1430: invalid lvalue in assignment /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c:1434: invalid lvalue in assignment /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c: In function `regatom': /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c:1787: incompatible types in assignment /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c:1711: warning: `ender' might be used uninitialized in this function /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c: In function `regclass': /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c:1904: incompatible types in assignment /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c:1930: incompatible types in assignment /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c:2022: incompatible types in assignment /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c:1878: warning: unused variable `def' /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c: In function `regtail': /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c:2240: invalid lvalue in assignment /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c:2223: warning: unused variable `offset' /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c: At top level: /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/regcomp.c:2286: warning: `dumpuntil' defined but not used *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. -- |Chris Costello |Design: The activity of preparing for a design review. `------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 11:29:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.netcom.com. (freebsd.netcom.com [198.211.79.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3EE5B14A0E for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 11:29:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bugs@freebsd.netcom.com) Received: by freebsd.netcom.com. (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA00268; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 10:26:26 -0500 From: bugs@freebsd.netcom.com (Mark Hittinger) Message-Id: <199909121526.KAA00268@freebsd.netcom.com.> Subject: re: Help! System won't boot the normal way after make world To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 10:26:26 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Using FreeBSD 4.0 current for quite some time > and staying current with cvsup work fine for me a few months. > But today shit hits the fan, after a make world my system won't boot without > errors and manual interference.. Check your dmesg for the ethernet interfaces that come up when you boot your kernel. I had a similar problem last week where my system drive got so corrupted I couldn't use it - had to reinstall and start over. Are you using a 3c5x9 etherlinkIII card (ep0)? Check to see if some of the other ethernet interfaces that aren't there are being incorrectly recognized and enabled. In order to use the latest kernel I have to "boot -c" and disable ed0 otherwise I get major sig11's, kernel hangs, and corrupted disks. Disabling the ethernet drivers that don't exist on my configuration makes the bad man stop - although I've already re-installed because of the corruption damage. You may need to consider that if your situation is similar to mine. Later Mark Hittinger Mindspring/Netcom/Dallas bugs@freebsd.netcom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 11:47:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles527.castles.com [208.214.165.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A1314CBE for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 11:47:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04058; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 11:41:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199909121841.LAA04058@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Daniel J. O'Connor" Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's wrong with this picture? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 13 Sep 1999 00:16:33 +0930." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 11:41:08 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What's wrong is that you're being stupid. > last pid: 548; load averages: 2.94, 2.55, 2.30 up 0+01:05:36 00:14:35 > 64 processes: 4 running, 60 sleeping > CPU states: 50.4% user, 48.2% nice, 1.2% system, 0.2% interrupt, 0.0% idle > Mem: 81M Active, 18M Inact, 18M Wired, 5004K Cache, 11M Buf, 1108K Free > Swap: 200M Total, 1624K Used, 198M Free > > PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND > 543 root 105 0 5772K 1656K RUN 1 1:58 96.36% 96.14% lame > 309 nobody 40 22 13780K 13364K CPU0 0 60:57 47.41% 47.41% setiathome > 306 nobody 92 22 14804K 14388K RUN 1 61:02 47.12% 47.12% setiathome > > ... > ... > > Processor one is working at %143?! Come on, you know better than that. The % totals are averages over the last sampling period, while the CPU number just indicates the last CPU that the process ran on. > Is it a known problem? It wasn't - I thought you were smarter than that. -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 11:48:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2EB15553 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 11:48:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA31335; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 11:47:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199909121847.LAA31335@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: An FS question perhaps... non blocking I/O. In-Reply-To: <199909121756.KAA38620@vashon.polstra.com> from John Polstra at "Sep 12, 1999 10:56:42 am" To: jdp@polstra.com (John Polstra) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 11:47:30 -0700 (PDT) Cc: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu, current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > In article <199909091954.PAA13059@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>, > Garrett Wollman wrote: > > [POLLEXTEND, POLLATTRIB, POLLNLINK, POLLWRITE] > > > It is probably undocumented. I was a bit reluctant to document it > > since I know that the interface is not correct. One of these days, > > I (or more likely some enterprising young hacker) will fix it. > > Just to avoid duplicated effort: I currently have work in progress > on a "fslog" pseudo-device. It enables you to monitor a filesystem > and receive notifications for all interesting changes to files and > directories. This includes reads, writes, renames, file creations, > unlinks, links, etc. -- anything that changes the stat(2) results > for a file, or causes directory entries to be created, destroyed, or > changed. The device itself is working, but so far I have implemented > the support for only a few of the event types. It won't take much > more work to finish it. > > My personal interest is to allow a CVSup master server to avoid > doing a tree walk whenever a client connects. I want to provide the > functionality of the old "supscan" utility, but in real time. COOL!! And these mods could make a really nice addition to system auditing tools required by high security systems. Do you pass anytype of ``who done it'' via fslog? -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 12: 6:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from smtp13.bellglobal.com (smtp13.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA51714DBC for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 12:06:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vanderh@ecf.toronto.edu) Received: from localhost.nowhere (ppp1137.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.224.177]) by smtp13.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA05729; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 15:08:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by localhost.nowhere (8.9.3/8.9.1) id PAA14291; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 15:05:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tim) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 15:05:27 -0400 From: Tim Vanderhoek To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: more Message-ID: <19990912150526.A14029@mad> References: <19990912180827.A83446@daemon.ninth-circle.org> <199909121741.KAA31185@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <199909121741.KAA31185@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>; from Rodney W. Grimes on Sun, Sep 12, 1999 at 10:41:09AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Sep 12, 1999 at 10:41:09AM -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > Not with me, and I am sure Warner and a few other die hard ``more'' users > are going to be chimming in here as soon as they get to this... I doubt it. Warner and most other die hard users read messages that they reply to. -- This is my .signature which gets appended to the end of my messages. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 13: 0:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF95C1519C for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 13:00:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (adsl-216-62-157-60.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.05.24.18.28.p7) with ESMTP id <0FHY008CWQ8TXO@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 15:00:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA55952 for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 15:00:26 -0500 (CDT envelope-from chris) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 15:00:25 -0500 From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: World breaks (~12:00 noon, CST) In-reply-to: <19990912130518.A16388@holly.calldei.com> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19990912150025.D16388@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.6i References: <19990912130518.A16388@holly.calldei.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Sep 12, 1999, Chris Costello wrote: > I get the following world breakage in -CURRENT as of ~12:00 > CST, September 12: Solved: PEBKAC. -- |Chris Costello |Reality's the only obstacle to happiness. `----------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 14:42:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from smtp04.wxs.nl (smtp04.wxs.nl [195.121.6.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D205914DD6 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 14:42:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.197.249]) by smtp04.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAB5D30 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 23:42:42 +0200 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA88039 for current@freebsd.org; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 23:31:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 23:31:02 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: current@freebsd.org Subject: profiling on kernels Message-ID: <19990912233102.L83446@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Could someone please look into compiling kernels with profiling? [this is done by config -p on the kernel config file] It currently fails on: cc -c -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DGPROF -DKERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -malign-functions=4 -pg vers.c linking kernel.debug prof_machdep.o: In function `__mcount': prof_machdep.o(.text+0x2): undefined reference to `_gmonparam' prof_machdep.o(.text+0x12): undefined reference to `_gmonparam' mcount.o: In function `mcount': /usr/src/sys/compile/CELESTIAL/../../libkern/mcount.c(.text+0xa): undefined reference to `_gmonparam' /usr/src/sys/compile/CELESTIAL/../../libkern/mcount.c(.text+0x10): undefined reference to `_gmonparam' /usr/src/sys/compile/CELESTIAL/../../libkern/mcount.c(.text+0x4a): undefined reference to `user' /usr/src/sys/compile/CELESTIAL/../../libkern/mcount.c(.text+0x5c): undefined reference to `btrap' /usr/src/sys/compile/CELESTIAL/../../libkern/mcount.c(.text+0x65): undefined reference to `eintr' /usr/src/sys/compile/CELESTIAL/../../libkern/mcount.c(.text+0x6e): undefined reference to `bintr' /usr/src/sys/compile/CELESTIAL/../../libkern/mcount.c(.text+0x75): undefined reference to `bintr' /usr/src/sys/compile/CELESTIAL/../../libkern/mcount.c(.text+0x7d): undefined reference to `btrap' *** Error code 1 1 error My environment: FreeBSD celestial.ninth-circle.org 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #2: Sun Sep 12 22:40:15 CEST 1999 asmodai@celestial.ninth-circle.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/CELESTIAL i386 Also, this still has relevance to PR kern/9413, but I haven't had time to test the patches supplied. I will do that tomorrow night. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist BSD: Technical excellence at its best No man is good enough to govern another man without the other's consent. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 15: 6:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from fanf.noc.demon.net (fanf.noc.demon.net [195.11.55.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB72214E0E for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 15:06:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fanf@demon.net) Received: from fanf by fanf.noc.demon.net with local (Exim 3.02 #13) id 11QHlE-000Cce-00; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 23:06:12 +0100 To: julian@whistle.com From: Tony Finch Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: An FS question perhaps... non blocking I/O. In-Reply-To: References: <199909091418.QAA05520@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Message-Id: Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 23:06:12 +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Julian Elischer wrote: > >The Posix AIO calls that john implememted are the best way of doing this. Are there any standard APIs for doing file meta-operations asynchronously? (open, close, creat, link, unlink, etc.) Tony. -- f.a.n.finch dot@dotat.at fanf@demon.net e pluribus unix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 15:36:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (border.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F082A14D84 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 15:36:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <40334>; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 08:34:10 +1000 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 08:36:30 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Problem with cvs-cur 5642 To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <99Sep13.083410est.40334@border.alcanet.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a bit old because I'm still catching up on a mail backlog... Last Wednesday, CTM reported: 1999-09-08 09:05 checksum: read 31757, calculated 6124 1999-09-08 09:05 cvs-cur.5642.gz 8/8 discarded I've had a look at the piece in question and there's nothing obviously wrong with it. Later updates have arrived OK. Has anyone else seen this? Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 16:31:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from penelope.skunk.org (penelope.skunk.org [208.133.204.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA05314EE1 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 16:31:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@penelope.skunk.org) Received: from localhost (ben@localhost) by penelope.skunk.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA11582; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 19:33:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 19:33:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Ben Rosengart To: Chris Costello Cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai , Tim Vanderhoek , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: more In-Reply-To: <19990912130638.B16388@holly.calldei.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 12 Sep 1999, Chris Costello wrote: > On Sun, Sep 12, 1999, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > Not with me, and I am sure Warner and a few other die hard ``more'' users > > are going to be chimming in here as soon as they get to this... > > Down with "n"! Up with "/"! No, up with '?'. -- Ben Rosengart UNIX Systems Engineer, Skunk Group StarMedia Network, Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 16:31:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F9E1554B for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 16:31:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA53375; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 19:30:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 19:30:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Peter Jeremy Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem with cvs-cur 5642 In-Reply-To: <99Sep13.083410est.40334@border.alcanet.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Peter Jeremy wrote: > This is a bit old because I'm still catching up on a mail backlog... > > Last Wednesday, CTM reported: > > 1999-09-08 09:05 checksum: read 31757, calculated 6124 > 1999-09-08 09:05 cvs-cur.5642.gz 8/8 discarded > > I've had a look at the piece in question and there's nothing obviously > wrong with it. Later updates have arrived OK. Has anyone else seen > this? One other user reported this, but it was already drained out of the short time spool here, so I couldn't give him just the little part he wanted. He was able to get the whole ~500K delta via ftp and go on, so I guess that I'd ask you to do the same. But let me know if that isn't doing it for you. ---------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@mat.net | communications topic, C programming, Unix and 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | carpentry. It's all in the design! Greenbelt, MD 20770 | picnic.mat.net: FreeBSD/i386 (301) 220-2114 | jaunt.mat.net : FreeBSD/Alpha ---------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 16:38:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ayukawa.aus.org (ayukawa.aus.org [199.166.246.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EB8214EE1 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 16:38:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lh@aus.org) Received: from PHOENIX.ZER0.NET (lh@ZER0.NET [199.166.246.189]) by ayukawa.aus.org (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA24607 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 19:38:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990912130638.B16388@holly.calldei.com> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 19:38:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Luke To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: more Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 12-Sep-99 Chris Costello wrote: > On Sun, Sep 12, 1999, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: >> Not with me, and I am sure Warner and a few other die hard ``more'' users >> are going to be chimming in here as soon as they get to this... > > Down with "n"! Up with "/"! > I agree I didn't even know there was an "n" Luke To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 17:23:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F008814D9E for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 17:23:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA04485; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 17:23:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA38956; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 17:23:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199909121847.LAA31335@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 17:23:14 -0700 (PDT) Organization: Polstra & Co., Inc. From: John Polstra To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Subject: Re: An FS question perhaps... non blocking I/O. Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > COOL!! And these mods could make a really nice addition to system > auditing tools required by high security systems. Do you pass anytype > of ``who done it'' via fslog? As of now, no. But it would be easy to add, and I think it's a great idea. Thanks! John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 17:38:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from midget.dons.net.au (daniel.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.137.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8226914DCE for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 17:38:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from guppy.dons.net.au (guppy.dons.net.au [203.31.81.9]) by midget.dons.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA25558; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:08:08 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199909121841.LAA04058@dingo.cdrom.com> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:07:56 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel J. O'Connor" To: Mike Smith Subject: Re: What's wrong with this picture? Cc: current@freebsd.org, "Daniel J. O'Connor" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 12-Sep-99 Mike Smith wrote: > What's wrong is that you're being stupid. Bah > Come on, you know better than that. The % totals are averages over the > last sampling period, while the CPU number just indicates the last CPU > that the process ran on. Hmm.. > It wasn't - I thought you were smarter than that. Guess not :) Just didn't think about it hard enough. --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 18:16:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E486814D84 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 18:16:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (adsl-216-62-157-60.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.05.24.18.28.p7) with ESMTP id <0FHZ007E84V1WF@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for current@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 20:16:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA00924; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 20:16:14 -0500 (CDT envelope-from chris) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 20:16:13 -0500 From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: more In-reply-to: <199909122356.QAA19699@apollo.backplane.com> To: Matthew Dillon Cc: Ben Rosengart , "Rodney W. Grimes" , Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai , Tim Vanderhoek , current@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19990912201613.A903@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.6i References: <199909122356.QAA19699@apollo.backplane.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Sep 12, 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: > :On Sun, 12 Sep 1999, Chris Costello wrote: > : > :> On Sun, Sep 12, 1999, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > :> > Not with me, and I am sure Warner and a few other die hard ``more'' users > :> > are going to be chimming in here as soon as they get to this... > :> > :> Down with "n"! Up with "/"! > : > :No, up with '?'. > : > :-- > : Ben Rosengart > > Up with '?' followed by 'n'! Wow. Don't you all like my sense of "humor". :) -- |Chris Costello |The computing field is always in need of new cliches. - Alan Perlis `-------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 18:19:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0793E14D84 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 18:19:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA27331; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:19:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:19:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <199909130119.VAA27331@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Mike Smith Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What's wrong with this picture? In-Reply-To: <199909121841.LAA04058@dingo.cdrom.com> References: <199909121841.LAA04058@dingo.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG < said: > What's wrong is that you're being stupid. There is no call for such rudeness in the FreeBSD mailing-lists, particularly from someone as centrally involved as you, Mike. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 18:32:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailout1.nyroc.rr.com (mailout1-0.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.226.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3012A14D47 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 18:32:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from reichman@twcny.rr.com) Received: from mail1.twcny.rr.com ([24.92.226.74]) by mailout1.nyroc.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with ESMTP id com; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:31:53 -0400 Received: from twcny.rr.com ([24.95.188.113]) by mail1.twcny.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 0-53939U80000L80000S0V35) with ESMTP id com; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:31:51 -0400 Message-ID: <37DC540D.DAF0493F@twcny.rr.com> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:31:57 -0400 From: "Mark S. Reichman" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.3-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Garrett Wollman , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's wrong with this picture? References: <199909121841.LAA04058@dingo.cdrom.com> <199909130119.VAA27331@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I would say an apology is due... This is somewhat lame.. Garrett Wollman wrote: > > < said: > > > What's wrong is that you're being stupid. > > There is no call for such rudeness in the FreeBSD mailing-lists, > particularly from someone as centrally involved as you, Mike. > > -GAWollman > > -- > Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same > wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom > Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame > MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message -- \|/ (@ @) +-----------oOO----(_)-------------------+ | Mark S. Reichman | | reichman@twcny.rr.com | | Radar Tech/Oracle Developer/Programmer | +-------------------------oOO------------+ |__|__| || || ooO Ooo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 18:38:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dt014nb6.san.rr.com (dt014nb6.san.rr.com [24.30.129.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8141314DF9 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 18:38:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt014nb6.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA08344 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 18:38:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Message-ID: <37DC55A1.D05B3E13@gorean.org> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 18:38:41 -0700 From: Doug Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT-0912 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: locale-list missing on today's -Current Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Having cvsup'ed and built new -Current today I seem to be missing a file called locale-list. Most new man (as in, haven't looked at since the build) pages I reference gives me this error: Formatting page, please wait.../usr/share/tmac/tmac.doc:63: can't find macro file `mdoc/locale/locale-list' Done. I have the file in /usr/share/tmac/locale, and it seems to be in the sources at /usr/src/contrib/groff/tmac/locale/locale-list, but tmac and/or mdoc seem to be looking for it in the wrong place. Unfortunately I don't know enough about either program to offer a fix. Hope this helps, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 18:41:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0735F14DF9 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 18:41:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (doconnor@cain [203.38.152.97]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00762; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 11:10:57 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="_=XFMail.1.3.p0.FreeBSD:990913111057:7396=_"; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature" In-Reply-To: <37DC540D.DAF0493F@twcny.rr.com> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 11:10:57 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: "Mark S. Reichman" Subject: Re: What's wrong with this picture? Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Garrett Wollman Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format --_=XFMail.1.3.p0.FreeBSD:990913111057:7396=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 13-Sep-99 Mark S. Reichman wrote: > I would say an apology is due... This is somewhat lame.. Nah, he's right I should have thought about it first :) (And I know him so I'm not offended) --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum --_=XFMail.1.3.p0.FreeBSD:990913111057:7396=_ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.6.3ia iQCVAwUBN9xWKVbYW/HEoF9pAQGSTAP9HvgGnnTlhuzRJBKu9GmbcHemt8mgd1zX gbpoKRO2cXEccynKPzEREOi70eKP9sG2Kd5aDy5czBvp/EAIwjPjXuvTw9InBlCo 5ZXasZBfUczT5LB5FC7lZvVbvJ5cHcX4gAp9dx6CE5JsEuwQRnFVGGjzvtJYQ/IT BVwV9RjBNes= =hJ85 -----END PGP MESSAGE----- --_=XFMail.1.3.p0.FreeBSD:990913111057:7396=_-- End of MIME message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 18:46:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CD1514D9C for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 18:46:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (adsl-216-62-157-60.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) by mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.05.24.18.28.p7) with ESMTP id <0FHZ00J6S696ML@mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net> for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 20:46:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01132; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 20:46:29 -0500 (CDT envelope-from chris) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 20:46:28 -0500 From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: locale-list missing on today's -Current In-reply-to: <37DC55A1.D05B3E13@gorean.org> To: Doug Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19990912204628.B903@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.6i References: <37DC55A1.D05B3E13@gorean.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Sep 12, 1999, Doug wrote: > I have the file in /usr/share/tmac/locale, and it seems to be in the > sources at /usr/src/contrib/groff/tmac/locale/locale-list, but tmac and/or > mdoc seem to be looking for it in the wrong place. Unfortunately I don't > know enough about either program to offer a fix. > Me Too. Copying it to /usr/share/tmac/mdoc/locale/locale-list seems to be a workaround; having make installworld put it there would be a fix. > Hope this helps, > > Doug -- |Chris Costello |MOP AND GLOW - Floor wax used by Three Mile Island cleanup team. `---------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 19:16: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5472D14DB0 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 19:15:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA27494; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 22:15:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 22:15:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <199909130215.WAA27494@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: John Polstra Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: An FS question perhaps... non blocking I/O. In-Reply-To: <199909121756.KAA38620@vashon.polstra.com> References: <000601befafb$83fbb8c0$291c453f@kbyanc.alcnet.com> <199909091954.PAA13059@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <199909121756.KAA38620@vashon.polstra.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG < said: > Just to avoid duplicated effort: I currently have work in progress > on a "fslog" pseudo-device. It enables you to monitor a filesystem > and receive notifications for all interesting changes to files and > directories. However, this is not necessarily duplicative of making polling on files work. For one thing, it's unlikely that we will want to require fslog be universally configured just to make `tail -f' and `biff' work. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 21:12:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93E5614F03 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:12:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA04944; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:12:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA39184; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:12:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199909130215.WAA27494@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:12:37 -0700 (PDT) Organization: Polstra & Co., Inc. From: John Polstra To: Garrett Wollman Subject: Re: An FS question perhaps... non blocking I/O. Cc: current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > >> Just to avoid duplicated effort: I currently have work in progress >> on a "fslog" pseudo-device. It enables you to monitor a filesystem >> and receive notifications for all interesting changes to files and >> directories. > > However, this is not necessarily duplicative of making polling on > files work. Yes, I agree. I just thought things might migrate in that direction and wanted to avoid wasted work. John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 21:54: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gidora.zeta.org.au (gidora.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9A18A14D9C for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:54:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: (qmail 4740 invoked from network); 13 Sep 1999 04:53:59 -0000 Received: from d214.syd2.zeta.org.au (203.26.9.86) by gidora.zeta.org.au with SMTP; 13 Sep 1999 04:53:59 -0000 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 14:53:54 +1000 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-Sender: bde@alphplex.bde.org To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: profiling on kernels In-Reply-To: <19990912233102.L83446@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Could someone please look into compiling kernels with profiling? > [this is done by config -p on the kernel config file] It works for me. `config -pp' is broken in -current (due to an incomplete upgrade to egcs). `config -p' is broken in RELENG_3 (due to an incomplete upgrade to elf). > Also, this still has relevance to PR kern/9413, but I haven't had time > to test the patches supplied. I will do that tomorrow night. More complete patches ahve already been applied to -current: RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/isa/prof_machdep.c,v Working file: prof_machdep.c head: 1.14 ... ---------------------------- revision 1.12 date: 1999/05/06 09:44:55; author: bde; state: Exp; lines: +28 -23 Fixed profiling of elf kernels. Made high resolution profiling compile for elf kernels (it is broken for all kernels due to lack of egcs support). Renaming of many assembler labels is avoided by declaring by declaring the labels that need to be visible to gprof as having type "function" and depending on the elf version of gprof being zealous about discarding the others. A few type declarations are still missing, mainly for SMP. PR: 9413 Submitted by: Assar Westerlund (initial parts) ---------------------------- Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 22:43:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 725EC14D79 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 22:43:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.197.160]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAB2B48; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 07:43:36 +0200 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA89334; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 07:43:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 07:43:43 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Bruce Evans Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: profiling on kernels Message-ID: <19990913074343.B89309@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <19990912233102.L83446@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Bruce Evans (bde@zeta.org.au) [990913 07:33]: >> Could someone please look into compiling kernels with profiling? >> [this is done by config -p on the kernel config file] > >It works for me. `config -pp' is broken in -current (due to an incomplete >upgrade to egcs). `config -p' is broken in RELENG_3 (due to an incomplete >upgrade to elf). I tried the -p one on CURRENT. >> Also, this still has relevance to PR kern/9413, but I haven't had time >> to test the patches supplied. I will do that tomorrow night. > >More complete patches ahve already been applied to -current: > >RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/isa/prof_machdep.c,v >Working file: prof_machdep.c >head: 1.14 I checked, I do have rev 1.14 in place and it borks. How far off is the chance of -p going haywire with some kernel options? -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist BSD: Technical excellence at its best If I am telling you the Truth now, do you believe it? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 23:44:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from smtp01.wxs.nl (smtp01.wxs.nl [195.121.6.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F38C14BCC for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 23:44:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.198.40]) by smtp01.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAB3946; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 08:44:55 +0200 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA89482; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 08:35:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 08:35:32 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Douglas Kuntz Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: something odd w/ bind/named, I think Message-ID: <19990913083532.E89309@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <001401befbdd$e0771f80$2c100218@micronetinfo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: <001401befbdd$e0771f80$2c100218@micronetinfo.com> Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Douglas Kuntz (dakuntz@home.com) [990911 01:44]: >Ok...I'm not sure if this has something to do w/ current...but... >I run an irc server...after one of my weekly cvsup's, all users domain >names stopped reversing...I've rebuilt the ircd using the original sources, >w/ no change...no errors or anything... Of course that has nothing to do with BIND/named. It's lookup code in the ircd which doesn't seem to work anymore in combo with FreeBSD. I might be off though. Anyways, why are you running CURRENT on an ircd? Why not go with STABLE? -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist BSD: Technical excellence at its best There are only 2 families in the world, the Haves, and the Have Nots. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 12 23:51:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from holonet.net (zen.holonet.net [198.207.169.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70862152CA for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 23:51:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adamw@holonet.net) Received: from DialupEudora (adamw@localhost) by holonet.net (Adam Wight) with SMTP id XAA24638; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 23:47:27 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 22:47:48 -0800 To: "Rodney W. Grimes" From: adamw@holonet.net (Adam Wight) Subject: Re: more Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >You'll also note that there is no opposite to ``n'', but / and ? are >symetrical operations using the same ``last argument''. n keeps the >direction of the last search, I suppose that might be handy just in >case you forgot what way it was you where going... :-). 'N' is the vertical reflection of 'n' in vi/more/less-land... but yeah, it can get pretty easy to forget which way you're going. Speaking of which, are there any plans to actually document vi any time soon? Lots of useful features are missing from the man page! paz, adam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Sep 13 1: 7:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mrelay.jrc.it (mrelay.jrc.it [139.191.1.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE0815058 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 01:07:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick.hibma@jrc.it) Received: from elect8 (elect8.jrc.it [139.191.71.152]) by mrelay.jrc.it (LMC5692) with ESMTP id KAA26418; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:06:01 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:06:02 +0200 (MET DST) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@elect8 Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: "Daniel O'Connor" Cc: "Mark S. Reichman" , FreeBSD current mailing list , Garrett Wollman , Mike Smith Subject: Re: What's wrong with this picture? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The point is that the wording is not acceptable on the mailing list, no matter whether you are offended or not. That you're not is a good thing though :-) Nick > > On 13-Sep-99 Mark S. Reichman wrote: > > I would say an apology is due... This is somewhat lame.. > > Nah, he's right I should have thought about it first :) > (And I know him so I'm not offended) > > --- > Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer > for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au > "The nice thing about standards is that there > are so many of them to choose from." > -- Andrew Tanenbaum > -- ISIS/STA, T.P.270, Joint Research Centre, 21020 Ispra, Italy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Sep 13 1:46:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from uni-sb.de (uni-sb.de [134.96.252.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 936CB1543A for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 01:46:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netchild@Vodix.CS.Uni-SB.de) Received: from work.net.local (maxtnt-240.telip.uni-sb.de [134.96.71.111]) by uni-sb.de (8.9.3/1999070600) with ESMTP id KAA01587; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:46:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Authentication-Warning: uni-sb.de: Host maxtnt-240.telip.uni-sb.de [134.96.71.111] claimed to be work.net.local Received: from Vodix.CS.Uni-SB.de (localhost.net.local [127.0.0.1]) by work.net.local (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA07456; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 19:19:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from netchild@Vodix.CS.Uni-SB.de) Message-Id: <199909121719.TAA07456@work.net.local> Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 19:19:30 +0200 (CEST) From: A.Leidinger@WJPServer.CS.Uni-SB.de Subject: Re: newpcm and Vibra16X To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 12 Sep, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > What's the verdict on newpcm and Vibra16X? Has anyone had any luck in > finding out why it doesn't work, or how to make it work? Mine won't > make any sound at all (except for the usual noise) no matter what I do > - play mp3s, cat my kernel into /dev/audio0, whatever. Kernel config, I havo no problems with it (but it's more a Vibra16C). (90) root@ttyp2 # pnpinfo -l Checking for Plug-n-Play devices... Card assigned CSN #1 Vendor ID CTL0070 (0x70008c0e), Serial Number 0xffffffff PnP Version 1.0, Vendor Version 16 Device Description: Creative ViBRA16C PnP Logical Device ID: CTL0001 0x01008c0e #0 Device Description: Audio -------- pcm0: at port 0x220-0x22f,0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b irq 5 drq 1,5 on is a0 -------- controller pnp0 device pcm0 -------- Bye, Alexander. -- The boat sank. Get over it. http://netchild.home.pages.de A.Leidinger+Home @ WJPServer.CS.Uni-SB.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Sep 13 1:54:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.palmerharvey.co.uk (mail.palmerharvey.co.uk [62.172.109.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B1CA14F78 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 01:54:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Dom.Mitchell@palmerharvey.co.uk) Received: from ho-nt-01.pandhm.co.uk (unverified) by mail.palmerharvey.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.0.1) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:54:42 +0100 Received: from voodoo.pandhm.co.uk (10.100.35.12 [10.100.35.12]) by ho-nt-01.pandhm.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id SNZVMNFK; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:53:35 +0100 Received: from dom by voodoo.pandhm.co.uk with local (Exim 2.10 #1) id 11QRss-000CXt-00; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:54:46 +0100 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:54:46 +0100 To: John Polstra Cc: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: An FS question perhaps... non blocking I/O. Message-ID: <19990913095445.A48105@voodoo.pandhm.co.uk> References: <000601befafb$83fbb8c0$291c453f@kbyanc.alcnet.com> <199909091954.PAA13059@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <199909121756.KAA38620@vashon.polstra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <199909121756.KAA38620@vashon.polstra.com> From: Dominic Mitchell Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Sep 12, 1999 at 10:56:42AM -0700, John Polstra wrote: > Just to avoid duplicated effort: I currently have work in progress > on a "fslog" pseudo-device. It enables you to monitor a filesystem > and receive notifications for all interesting changes to files and > directories. This includes reads, writes, renames, file creations, > unlinks, links, etc. -- anything that changes the stat(2) results > for a file, or causes directory entries to be created, destroyed, or > changed. The device itself is working, but so far I have implemented > the support for only a few of the event types. It won't take much > more work to finish it. Very nice; this is the way that Microsoft's web indexing engine works. It opens a whole host of interesting stuff... -- Dom Mitchell -- Palmer & Harvey McLane -- Unix Systems Administrator "vi has two modes the one in which it beeps and the one in which it doesnt." -- Anon. ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Sep 13 2: 2:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gidora.zeta.org.au (gidora.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0E5FF154DC for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 02:02:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: (qmail 30507 invoked from network); 13 Sep 1999 09:02:48 -0000 Received: from d214.syd2.zeta.org.au (203.26.9.86) by gidora.zeta.org.au with SMTP; 13 Sep 1999 09:02:48 -0000 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 19:02:43 +1000 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-Sender: bde@alphplex.bde.org To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: profiling on kernels In-Reply-To: <19990913074343.B89309@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >More complete patches ahve already been applied to -current: > > > >RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/isa/prof_machdep.c,v > >Working file: prof_machdep.c > >head: 1.14 > > I checked, I do have rev 1.14 in place and it borks. > > How far off is the chance of -p going haywire with some kernel options? Not large. I run regression tests on GENERIC and LINT (config -pp) on most days. Profiling hasn't caused any compile-time problems for several months (-pp is only broken at runtime). Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Sep 13 4: 4: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mpp.pro-ns.net (pppdsle45.mpls.uswest.net [216.160.23.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BB2814FD6 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 04:03:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@mpp.pro-ns.net) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by mpp.pro-ns.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA03655; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 06:03:19 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mpp) From: Mike Pritchard Message-Id: <199909131103.GAA03655@mpp.pro-ns.net> Subject: Re: more In-Reply-To: from Adam Wight at "Sep 12, 1999 10:47:48 pm" To: adamw@holonet.net (Adam Wight) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 06:03:19 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (Rodney W. Grimes), freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >You'll also note that there is no opposite to ``n'', but / and ? are > >symetrical operations using the same ``last argument''. n keeps the > >direction of the last search, I suppose that might be handy just in > >case you forgot what way it was you where going... :-). > > 'N' is the vertical reflection of 'n' in vi/more/less-land... but yeah, it > can get pretty easy to forget which way you're going. > > Speaking of which, are there any plans to actually document vi any time > soon? Lots of useful features are missing from the man page! Sure! Where are your patches for this? I'll review them and commit them as soon as you supply them! -Mike -- Mike Pritchard mpp@FreeBSD.org or mpp@mpp.pro-ns.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Sep 13 4:19:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.palmerharvey.co.uk (mail.palmerharvey.co.uk [62.172.109.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA231557D; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 04:19:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Dom.Mitchell@palmerharvey.co.uk) Received: from ho-nt-01.pandhm.co.uk (unverified) by mail.palmerharvey.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.0.1) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:18:57 +0100 Received: from voodoo.pandhm.co.uk (10.100.35.12 [10.100.35.12]) by ho-nt-01.pandhm.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id SNZVMNLH; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:17:49 +0100 Received: from dom by voodoo.pandhm.co.uk with local (Exim 2.10 #1) id 11QU8S-000Cso-00; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:19:00 +0100 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:19:00 +0100 To: Mike Pritchard Cc: Adam Wight , "Rodney W. Grimes" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: more Message-ID: <19990913121859.A49490@voodoo.pandhm.co.uk> References: <199909131103.GAA03655@mpp.pro-ns.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <199909131103.GAA03655@mpp.pro-ns.net> From: Dominic Mitchell Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Sep 13, 1999 at 06:03:19AM -0500, Mike Pritchard wrote: > > Speaking of which, are there any plans to actually document vi any time > > soon? Lots of useful features are missing from the man page! > > Sure! Where are your patches for this? I'll review them > and commit them as soon as you supply them! Why bother? They are already documented in the vi papers, which are distributed in the system already under /usr/share/doc/usd/{12.vi,13.viref}. There is a reference to these in the vi man pages already. -- Dom Mitchell -- Palmer & Harvey McLane -- Unix Systems Administrator "vi has two modes the one in which it beeps and the one in which it doesnt." -- Anon. ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Sep 13 4:44: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mpp.pro-ns.net (pppdsle45.mpls.uswest.net [216.160.23.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5266414E59 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 04:42:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@mpp.pro-ns.net) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by mpp.pro-ns.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA03802; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 06:41:07 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mpp) From: Mike Pritchard Message-Id: <199909131141.GAA03802@mpp.pro-ns.net> Subject: Re: more In-Reply-To: <19990913121859.A49490@voodoo.pandhm.co.uk> from Dominic Mitchell at "Sep 13, 1999 12:19:00 pm" To: Dom.Mitchell@palmerharvey.co.uk (Dominic Mitchell) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 06:41:07 -0500 (CDT) Cc: adamw@holonet.net (Adam Wight), freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (Rodney W. Grimes), freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Mon, Sep 13, 1999 at 06:03:19AM -0500, Mike Pritchard wrote: > > > Speaking of which, are there any plans to actually document vi any time > > > soon? Lots of useful features are missing from the man page! > > > > Sure! Where are your patches for this? I'll review them > > and commit them as soon as you supply them! > > Why bother? They are already documented in the vi papers, which are > distributed in the system already under > /usr/share/doc/usd/{12.vi,13.viref}. There is a reference to these in > the vi man pages already. True, but it would be nice if the man page was extended to include some more documentation. Remember, a lot of our users are lazy and if "man xxxxx" doesn't give them what they want, then they don't go looking elsewhere. Sad, but true. Now, the vi(1) man page does refer to the usd document, but doesn't tell you how to find it. That is a problem. It also references the "vi quick reference" card", which I have no idea where to find that (I used to have one sitting one my desk :-). I think that the originator's request is valid, especially since some of the original BSD documentation in /usr/share/doc/* has rotted since it was originally imported. We have been maintaining those documents more as a "historical" perspective than as accurate documentation on the current state of affairs. -Mike -- Mike Pritchard mpp@FreeBSD.org or mpp@mpp.pro-ns.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Sep 13 4:58:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.palmerharvey.co.uk (mail.palmerharvey.co.uk [62.172.109.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0645714FE0; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 04:58:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Dom.Mitchell@palmerharvey.co.uk) Received: from ho-nt-01.pandhm.co.uk (unverified) by mail.palmerharvey.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.0.1) with ESMTP id ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:58:10 +0100 Received: from voodoo.pandhm.co.uk (10.100.35.12 [10.100.35.12]) by ho-nt-01.pandhm.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id SNZVMNML; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:57:03 +0100 Received: from dom by voodoo.pandhm.co.uk with local (Exim 2.10 #1) id 11QUkR-000CxZ-00; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:58:15 +0100 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:58:14 +0100 To: Mike Pritchard Cc: Adam Wight , "Rodney W. Grimes" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: more Message-ID: <19990913125814.A49809@voodoo.pandhm.co.uk> References: <19990913121859.A49490@voodoo.pandhm.co.uk> <199909131141.GAA03802@mpp.pro-ns.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i In-Reply-To: <199909131141.GAA03802@mpp.pro-ns.net> From: Dominic Mitchell Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Sep 13, 1999 at 06:41:07AM -0500, Mike Pritchard wrote: > True, but it would be nice if the man page was extended to > include some more documentation. Remember, a lot of our users are > lazy and if "man xxxxx" doesn't give them what they want, then > they don't go looking elsewhere. Sad, but true. That sort of user won't even bother with man vi, half the time. :-) > Now, the vi(1) man page does refer to the usd document, but > doesn't tell you how to find it. That is a problem. It also > references the "vi quick reference" card", which I have no idea > where to find that (I used to have one sitting one my desk :-). That would be a useful edition. > I think that the originator's request is valid, especially since > some of the original BSD documentation in /usr/share/doc/* has > rotted since it was originally imported. We have been maintaining > those documents more as a "historical" perspective than as > accurate documentation on the current state of affairs. Well, I still find the vi reference manual darned useful. A lot of other stuff under there, too. -- Dom Mitchell -- Palmer & Harvey McLane -- Unix Systems Administrator "vi has two modes the one in which it beeps and the one in which it doesnt." -- Anon. ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ********************************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Sep 13 6:13:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from camtech.net.au (goliath.camtech.net.au [203.5.73.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6EDF514F8B for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 06:13:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@camtech.net.au) Received: from dialup-ad-10-53.camtech.net.au ([203.28.1.181]) by camtech.net.au ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:43:06 +0930 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:44:17 +0930 (CST) From: Matthew Thyer X-Sender: matt@localhost Reply-To: thyerm@camtech.net.au To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: make world speed-up patch (was Re: optional 'make release' speed-up patch) In-Reply-To: <199909121358.PAA15778@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ooops... stick foot in mouth.... put on flame proof suit.... Mike, you can call me stupid if you want because I was in sending that email. Thats what happens when you reply to mail without reading the thread first! Stupid me especially when the subject is clearly about "make release". Now back to what I was really emailing about which is "make world". The snippet from /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 that I'm talking about (in my own little world) was this: .if !defined(NOCLEAN) @echo @echo "--------------------------------------------------------------" @echo ">>> Cleaning up the temporary ${OBJFORMAT} build tree" @echo "--------------------------------------------------------------" mkdir -p ${WORLDTMP} -chflags -R noschg ${WORLDTMP}/ rm -rf ${WORLDTMP} .endif Can we please have this optimised ? On Sun, 12 Sep 1999, Oliver Fromme wrote: > Matthew Thyer wrote in list.freebsd-current: > > YES please fix this ridiculous inefficiency pointed out by Rod! > > There's nothing broken, so there's nothing to fix (IMO). > > > The current method of cleaning the build tree is to chflags -R and > > then rm -r which results in two full traversals of the entire /usr/obj > > tree which takes MUCH longer than attempting an rm -r first followed by > > a chflags -R and another rm -r. > > Uhm, what are you talking about? The Makefile does exactly > that: > > > # The first command will fail on a handful of files that have their schg > # flags set. But it greatly speeds up the next two commands. > -rm -rf ${CHROOTDIR} > -chflags -R noschg ${CHROOTDIR}/. > -rm -rf ${CHROOTDIR} > > > Regards > Oliver > > -- /=======================================================================\ | Work: Matthew.Thyer@dsto.defence.gov.au | Home: thyerm@camtech.net.au | \=======================================================================/ "If it is true that our Universe has a zero net value for all conserved quantities, then it may simply be a fluctuation of the vacuum of some larger space in which our Universe is imbedded. In answer to the question of why it happened, I offer the modest proposal that our Universe is simply one of those things which happen from time to time." E. P. Tryon from "Nature" Vol.246 Dec.14, 1973 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Sep 13 6:27: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C76681550F for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 06:26:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11QW6Y-0003mx-00; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 15:25:10 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Oliver Fromme Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: optional 'make release' speed-up patch In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 12 Sep 1999 15:58:01 +0200." <199909121358.PAA15778@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 15:25:09 +0200 Message-ID: <14566.937229109@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 15:58:01 +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > # The first command will fail on a handful of files that have their schg > # flags set. But it greatly speeds up the next two commands. > -rm -rf ${CHROOTDIR} > -chflags -R noschg ${CHROOTDIR}/. > -rm -rf ${CHROOTDIR} > Which sources are you looking at? That's not what I see in rev 1.85 of Makefile.inc1 . Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Sep 13 6:37: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gidora.zeta.org.au (gidora.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EB86B14C97 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 06:36:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: (qmail 21623 invoked from network); 13 Sep 1999 13:36:53 -0000 Received: from d214.syd2.zeta.org.au (203.26.9.86) by gidora.zeta.org.au with SMTP; 13 Sep 1999 13:36:53 -0000 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 23:36:47 +1000 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-Sender: bde@alphplex.bde.org To: Mike Pritchard Cc: Dominic Mitchell , Adam Wight , "Rodney W. Grimes" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: more In-Reply-To: <199909131141.GAA03802@mpp.pro-ns.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I think that the originator's request is valid, especially since > some of the original BSD documentation in /usr/share/doc/* has > rotted since it was originally imported. We have been maintaining > those documents more as a "historical" perspective than as > accurate documentation on the current state of affairs. vi is documented in the nvi release (contrib/nvi) so its documentation (a measly 800K in of source) shouldn't have rotted. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Sep 13 8:47: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8E0A15549 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 08:46:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11QYJi-0004PH-00 for current@freebsd.org; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 17:46:54 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: current@freebsd.org Subject: HEADS UP: Style changes in /etc/* scripts Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 17:46:54 +0200 Message-ID: <16942.937237614@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi folks, Please be aware that some large deltas have been applied to most of the scripts in src/etc . While the submitter of the changes (Doug Barton), David O'Brien, some others and I have done our best to test these changes, there may be problems. The changes were discussed on the freebsd-hackers mailing list. The submitter addressed concerns raised, motivated the changes very well and has made several requests for review. Watch your startups closely after you mergemaster these changes, and please report any problems which you suspect are related ASAP. Thanks, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Sep 13 10:29:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.netcom.com. (freebsd.netcom.com [198.211.79.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 17E63156BB for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:29:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bugs@freebsd.netcom.com) Received: by freebsd.netcom.com. (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA02985; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:03:48 -0500 From: bugs@freebsd.netcom.com (Mark Hittinger) Message-Id: <199909131703.MAA02985@freebsd.netcom.com.> Subject: patch for if_ed.c ed_probe_HP_pclanp() returns OK when shouldn't To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:03:47 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Inside ed_probe_HP_pclanp() we are doing various checks to see if the device is there and if we hit a problem we return 0 instead of an error. Attached is a patch for this problem. Regards, Mark Hittinger Mindspring/Netcom/Dallas bugs@freebsd.netcom.com *** if_ed.c.1 Mon Sep 13 16:31:29 1999 --- if_ed.c Mon Sep 13 16:48:33 1999 *************** *** 1387,1391 **** ((inb(sc->asic_addr + ED_HPP_ID + 2) & 0xF0) != 0) || (inb(sc->asic_addr + ED_HPP_ID + 3) != 0x53)) ! return 0; /* --- 1387,1391 ---- ((inb(sc->asic_addr + ED_HPP_ID + 2) & 0xF0) != 0) || (inb(sc->asic_addr + ED_HPP_ID + 3) != 0x53)) ! return(ENXIO); /* *************** *** 1401,1405 **** if (checksum != 0xFF) ! return 0; /* --- 1401,1405 ---- if (checksum != 0xFF) ! return(ENXIO); /* *************** *** 1410,1414 **** if (((sc->hpp_id = inw(sc->asic_addr + ED_HPP_PAGE_4)) & ED_HPP_ID_SOFT_MODEL_MASK) != 0x0000) ! return 0; /* --- 1410,1414 ---- if (((sc->hpp_id = inw(sc->asic_addr + ED_HPP_PAGE_4)) & ED_HPP_ID_SOFT_MODEL_MASK) != 0x0000) ! return(ENXIO); /* *************** *** 1441,1445 **** if (!(inb(sc->nic_addr + ED_P0_ISR) & ED_ISR_RST)) ! return 0; /* reset did not complete */ /* --- 1441,1445 ---- if (!(inb(sc->nic_addr + ED_P0_ISR) & ED_ISR_RST)) ! return(ENXIO); /* reset did not complete */ /* *************** *** 1456,1460 **** if (irq >= (sizeof(ed_hpp_intr_val) / sizeof(ed_hpp_intr_val[0]))) ! return 0; /* --- 1456,1460 ---- if (irq >= (sizeof(ed_hpp_intr_val) / sizeof(ed_hpp_intr_val[0]))) ! return(ENXIO); /* *************** *** 1521,1525 **** if (mem_addr != conf_maddr) ! return 0; error = ed_alloc_memory(dev, 0, memsize); --- 1521,1525 ---- if (mem_addr != conf_maddr) ! return(ENXIO); error = ed_alloc_memory(dev, 0, memsize); *************** *** 1609,1613 **** if (bcmp(test_pattern, test_buffer, sizeof(test_pattern))) ! return 0; } --- 1609,1613 ---- if (bcmp(test_pattern, test_buffer, sizeof(test_pattern))) ! return(ENXIO); } To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Sep 13 11:43:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20EF515026 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 11:43:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA02986 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 20:43:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 20:43:11 +0200 (CEST) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <199909131843.UAA02986@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: optional 'make release' speed-up patch Organization: Administration Heim 3 Reply-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 RZTUC(3) PL2] Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sheldon Hearn wrote in list.freebsd-current: > On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 15:58:01 +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > > # The first command will fail on a handful of files that have their schg > > # flags set. But it greatly speeds up the next two commands. > > -rm -rf ${CHROOTDIR} > > -chflags -R noschg ${CHROOTDIR}/. > > -rm -rf ${CHROOTDIR} > > > > Which sources are you looking at? That's not what I see in rev 1.85 of > Makefile.inc1 . /usr/src/release/Makefile (This thread is about "make release", or did I misunderstand the subject line?) Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Sep 13 12:22:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDC8E14F02 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:21:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA66510; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:21:55 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA01841; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:20:51 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199909131920.NAA01841@harmony.village.org> To: John Polstra Subject: Re: An FS question perhaps... non blocking I/O. Cc: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 12 Sep 1999 10:56:42 PDT." <199909121756.KAA38620@vashon.polstra.com> References: <199909121756.KAA38620@vashon.polstra.com> <000601befafb$83fbb8c0$291c453f@kbyanc.alcnet.com> <199909091954.PAA13059@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:20:51 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <199909121756.KAA38620@vashon.polstra.com> John Polstra writes: : My personal interest is to allow a CVSup master server to avoid : doing a tree walk whenever a client connects. I want to provide the : functionality of the old "supscan" utility, but in real time. Also useful for tasty /dev/ persistance in a devfs world. A devfsd could certainly use this feature. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Sep 13 12:22:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9006015069 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:22:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA66520; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:22:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA01861; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:21:47 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199909131921.NAA01861@harmony.village.org> To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Subject: Re: more Cc: asmodai@wxs.nl (Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai), vanderh@ecf.utoronto.ca (Tim Vanderhoek), current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 12 Sep 1999 10:41:09 PDT." <199909121741.KAA31185@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> References: <199909121741.KAA31185@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:21:47 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <199909121741.KAA31185@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> "Rodney W. Grimes" writes: : The rest of us aren't so willing to ``adopt `n'''. Please fix it. These are the sorts of changes that I was talking about when I was saying don't mess with the behavior of more too much... Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Sep 13 12:28:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8102D14D9B for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:28:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA66551; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:28:44 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA01913; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:27:40 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199909131927.NAA01913@harmony.village.org> To: Luke Subject: Re: more Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 12 Sep 1999 19:38:10 EDT." References: Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:27:40 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Luke writes: : I agree I didn't even know there was an "n" As a emacs fanatic, I find the following message ironic. In vi since as long as I recall (4.2 BSD?) one can search for the next occurance of a string with / or with n. more emulates this. I see no need to break either one. They both have their uses. Years ago I also wrote a 'more' for VMS when I was toggling between VMS 4.2/4.7 and BSD 4.2/4.3 on two different vaxen. Actually I hacked a very broken more, but my name is likely still in the VMS archives for this and other odd hacks. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Sep 13 12:44:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dt014nb6.san.rr.com (dt014nb6.san.rr.com [24.30.129.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A4F51541D for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:44:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by dt014nb6.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA17608; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:44:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:44:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug X-Sender: doug@dt014nb6.san.rr.com To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: Style changes in /etc/* scripts In-Reply-To: <16942.937237614@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > Hi folks, > > Please be aware that some large deltas have been applied to most of the > scripts in src/etc . Thanks to Sheldon for helping with this, and committing the results. I'll be watching the lists closely for any reported errors. If you're looking at the cvs diffs you'll get the best results using the -bB flags to diff since there are a lot of whitespace changes. Enjoy, Doug -- "My mama told me, my mama said, 'don't cry.' She said, 'you're too young a man to have as many women you got.' I looked at my mother dear and didn't even crack a smile. I said, 'If women kill me, I don't mind dyin!'" - John Belushi as "Joliet" Jake Blues, "I Don't Know" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Sep 13 13:42:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from shadowmere.student.utwente.nl (wit401305.student.utwente.nl [130.89.236.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A7315121 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:42:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daeron@Wit401305.student.utwente.nl) Received: by shadowmere.student.utwente.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 17C3DE0; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:42:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shadowmere.student.utwente.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9544C0 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:42:11 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:42:11 +0200 (CEST) From: Pascal Hofstee To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: ata-driver screws up ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As of 4.0-CURRENT about a few hours ago the ATA-driver screws up with my secondary master IDE drive ... wd1s1e gets mounted perfectly ... all other wd1s1 entries fail: uname -a: ========= FreeBSD shadowmere.student.utwente.nl 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #7: Mon Sep 13 21:43:49 CEST 1999 root@shadowmere.student.utwente.nl:/usr/src/sys/compile/CHROME i386 dmesg: ====== ata0: master: setting up WDMA2 mode on PIIX3/4 chip OK ad0: ATA-? disk at ata0 as master ad0: 1549MB (3173184 sectors), 3148 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S ad0: piomode=4, dmamode=2, udmamode=-1 ad0: 16 secs/int, 0 depth queue, DMA mode Creating DISK ad0 Creating DISK wd0 ata1: master: setting up UDMA2 mode on PIIX4 chip OK ad1: ATA-4 disk at ata1 as master ad1: 9671MB (19807200 sectors), 19650 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S ad1: piomode=4, dmamode=2, udmamode=2 ad1: 16 secs/int, 31 depth queue, DMA mode Creating DISK ad1 Creating DISK wd1 atapi: piomode=4, dmamode=1, udmamode=-1 atapi: PIO transfer mode set acd0: <20DY/V1.70> CDROM drive at ata0 as slave acd0: drive speed 3447KB/sec, 120KB cache acd0: supported read types: CD-R, CD-DA acd0: Audio: play, 255 volume levels acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray acd0: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked Considering FFS root f/s. changing root device to wd0s1a wd0s1: type 0xa5, start 63, end = 3173183, size 3173121 : OK start_init: trying /sbin/init wd1s1: type 0xa5, start 0, end = 19807199, size 19807200 : OK wd1: invalid primary partition table: no magic wd1: invalid primary partition table: no magic wd1: invalid primary partition table: no magic wd1s1: type 0xa5, start 0, end = 19807199, size 19807200 : OK WARNING: R/W mount of /usr/obj denied. Filesystem is not clean - run fsck WARNING: R/W mount of /usr/tmp/download denied. Filesystem is not clean - run fsck wd1: invalid primary partition table: no magic wd1: invalid primary partition table: no magic wd1: invalid primary partition table: no magic wd1: invalid primary partition table: no magic I can perfectly run fsck manually on the remaining wd1s1 entries ... And mount them manually ... though at system reboot every bails out, with messages like "wd1s1: device not configured" I currently have the following etc/fstab: ========================================= # Device Mountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/wd0s1b none swap sw 0 0 /dev/wd0s1a / ufs rw 1 1 /dev/wd0s1f /home ufs rw 2 2 /dev/wd0s1g /usr ufs rw 2 2 /dev/wd0s1e /var ufs rw 2 2 /dev/wd1s1e /usr/src ufs rw,noauto 2 2 /dev/wd1s1f /usr/obj ufs rw,noauto 2 2 /dev/wd1s1g /usr/tmp/download ufs rw,noauto 2 2 /dev/wd1s1h /var/ftp ufs rw,noauto 2 2 proc /proc procfs rw 0 0 kern /kern kernfs rw 0 0 All the noauto entries can be mounted without a hitch once the system is up ... but having them mounted automacially at boot time bails out as stated before .. -------------------- Pascal Hofstee - daeron@shadowmere.student.utwente.nl -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d- s+: a-- C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W- N+ o? K- w--- O? M V? PS+ PE Y-- PGP-- t+ 5 X-- R tv+ b+ DI D- G e* h+ r- y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Sep 13 13:55:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A44115632 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:55:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA08730; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:55:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Pascal Hofstee Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ata-driver screws up ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:42:11 +0200." Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:55:33 +0200 Message-ID: <8728.937256133@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , Pascal Hofstee writes: >As of 4.0-CURRENT about a few hours ago the ATA-driver screws up with my >secondary master IDE drive ... wd1s1e gets mounted perfectly ... all other >wd1s1 entries fail: Make sure you have rev 1.6 of sys/kern/subr_disk.c -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Sep 13 13:57:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5899C155EE for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:57:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA09400; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:57:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA40676; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:57:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:57:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199909132057.NAA40676@vashon.polstra.com> To: dot@dotat.at Subject: Re: An FS question perhaps... non blocking I/O. In-Reply-To: References: <199909091418.QAA05520@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: current@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article , Tony Finch wrote: > > Are there any standard APIs for doing file meta-operations > asynchronously? (open, close, creat, link, unlink, etc.) I only know of one way to do that. Hand the operation off to a separate process, using the FD-passing feature of Unix domain sockets to send the file descriptor back and forth. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up." -- Nora Ephron To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Sep 13 14: 3: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from shadowmere.student.utwente.nl (wit401305.student.utwente.nl [130.89.236.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FA5D155EE for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 14:03:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daeron@Wit401305.student.utwente.nl) Received: by shadowmere.student.utwente.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 47211E0; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 23:03:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shadowmere.student.utwente.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 375C2A9; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 23:03:03 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 23:03:02 +0200 (CEST) From: Pascal Hofstee To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ata-driver screws up ? In-Reply-To: <8728.937256133@critter.freebsd.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message l>, Pascal Hofstee writes: > >As of 4.0-CURRENT about a few hours ago the ATA-driver screws up with my > >secondary master IDE drive ... wd1s1e gets mounted perfectly ... all other > >wd1s1 entries fail: > > Make sure you have rev 1.6 of sys/kern/subr_disk.c I Do have rev 1.6 ... I'll try to see if a config -r over my kernel config helps. -------------------- Pascal Hofstee - daeron@shadowmere.student.utwente.nl -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d- s+: a-- C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W- N+ o? K- w--- O? M V? PS+ PE Y-- PGP-- t+ 5 X-- R tv+ b+ DI D- G e* h+ r- y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Sep 13 14:33:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mailout1.nyroc.rr.com (mailout1-0.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.226.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8783914CEE for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 14:33:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from reichman@twcny.rr.com) Received: from mail1.twcny.rr.com ([24.92.226.139]) by mailout1.nyroc.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with ESMTP id com; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 17:32:34 -0400 Received: from twcny.rr.com ([24.95.188.113]) by mail1.twcny.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 0-53939U80000L80000S0V35) with ESMTP id com; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 17:32:33 -0400 Message-ID: <37DD6D79.5A9DE659@twcny.rr.com> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 17:32:41 -0400 From: "Mark S. Reichman" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.3-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nick Hibma Cc: Daniel O'Connor , FreeBSD current mailing list , Garrett Wollman , Mike Smith Subject: Re: What's wrong with this picture? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG First off its nice you know each other. Second, I will respond as I see fit to any public posting with or without your permission Mr. Mike Smith. And yes, posting messages like that in a public forum is lame because postings like that get arguments like this started. Nick Hibma wrote: > > The point is that the wording is not acceptable on the mailing list, no > matter whether you are offended or not. > > That you're not is a good thing though :-) > > Nick > > > > > On 13-Sep-99 Mark S. Reichman wrote: > > > I would say an apology is due... This is somewhat lame.. > > > > Nah, he's right I should have thought about it first :) > > (And I know him so I'm not offended) > > > > --- > > Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer > > for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au > > "The nice thing about standards is that there > > are so many of them to choose from." > > -- Andrew Tanenbaum > > > > -- > ISIS/STA, T.P.270, Joint Research Centre, 21020 Ispra, Italy -- \|/ (@ @) +-----------oOO----(_)-------------------+ | Mark S. Reichman | | reichman@twcny.rr.com | | Radar Tech/Oracle Developer/Programmer | +-------------------------oOO------------+ |__|__| || || ooO Ooo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Sep 13 22: 5:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FE0615101 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:05:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA80584; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:05:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: A.Leidinger@WJPServer.CS.Uni-SB.de Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: newpcm and Vibra16X In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 12 Sep 1999 19:19:30 +0200." <199909121719.TAA07456@work.net.local> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:05:25 -0700 Message-ID: <80581.937285525@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Card assigned CSN #1 > Vendor ID CTL0070 (0x70008c0e), Serial Number 0xffffffff > PnP Version 1.0, Vendor Version 16 > Device Description: Creative ViBRA16C PnP And JFYI, this: Vendor ID CTL00f0 (0xf0008c0e), Serial Number 0xffffffff PnP Version 1.0, Vendor Version 16 Device Description: Creative ViBRA16X PnP Does *not* work with newpcm. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Sep 13 22:34:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from shadowmere.student.utwente.nl (wit401305.student.utwente.nl [130.89.236.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6000514D0A for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:34:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daeron@Wit401305.student.utwente.nl) Received: by shadowmere.student.utwente.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0D58510D; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 07:34:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shadowmere.student.utwente.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1AD777; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 07:34:20 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 07:34:20 +0200 (CEST) From: Pascal Hofstee To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ata-driver screws up ? In-Reply-To: <8728.937256133@critter.freebsd.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message l>, Pascal Hofstee writes: > >As of 4.0-CURRENT about a few hours ago the ATA-driver screws up with my > >secondary master IDE drive ... wd1s1e gets mounted perfectly ... all other > >wd1s1 entries fail: > > Make sure you have rev 1.6 of sys/kern/subr_disk.c Ok ... apparently config -r solved the problem I was experiencing (together with a newer CVS-tree) So ... whatever the problem was ... it looks fixed now .. Thanks for the suggestion -------------------- Pascal Hofstee - daeron@shadowmere.student.utwente.nl -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d- s+: a-- C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W- N+ o? K- w--- O? M V? PS+ PE Y-- PGP-- t+ 5 X-- R tv+ b+ DI D- G e* h+ r- y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Sep 13 23:26: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD4FE14E37 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 23:26:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (iras-5-125.ucdavis.edu [169.237.12.125]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA16534; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 23:26:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id XAA82841; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 23:25:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 23:25:57 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: "Mark S. Reichman" Cc: FreeBSD current mailing list Subject: Re: What's wrong with this picture? Message-ID: <19990913232557.A82778@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <37DD6D79.5A9DE659@twcny.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre1i In-Reply-To: <37DD6D79.5A9DE659@twcny.rr.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Sep 13, 1999 at 05:32:41PM -0400, Mark S. Reichman wrote: > Second, I will respond as I see fit to any public posting > with or without your permission Mr. Mike Smith. HUH?? Where did Mike direct something at you in this thread? > And yes, posting messages like that in a public forum is lame because > postings like that get arguments like this started. Only by busy-bodies. The message was directed at someone that knows Mike and that person is the only one that should even consider saying anything about Mike's tone. Lighten up people! -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Mon Sep 13 23:52:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AD4114DD7 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 23:52:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11QmSB-0006R0-00 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 08:52:35 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: optional 'make release' speed-up patch In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 13 Sep 1999 20:43:11 +0200." <199909131843.UAA02986@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 08:52:35 +0200 Message-ID: <24737.937291955@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 20:43:11 +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > Makefile.inc1 . > > /usr/src/release/Makefile (This thread is about "make release", > or did I misunderstand the subject line?) Haha! Thanks! No wonder I haven't been understanding this thread. :-) *blush* Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Sep 14 1:26: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 439BC151FF for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 01:25:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA80071; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:27:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:27:01 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: A.Leidinger@WJPServer.CS.Uni-SB.de, Dag-Erling Smorgrav , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: newpcm and Vibra16X In-Reply-To: <80581.937285525@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Card assigned CSN #1 > > Vendor ID CTL0070 (0x70008c0e), Serial Number 0xffffffff > > PnP Version 1.0, Vendor Version 16 > > Device Description: Creative ViBRA16C PnP > > And JFYI, this: > > Vendor ID CTL00f0 (0xf0008c0e), Serial Number 0xffffffff > PnP Version 1.0, Vendor Version 16 > Device Description: Creative ViBRA16X PnP > > Does *not* work with newpcm. :) If this is a card you own, please just wrap it up and put it in the post to Cameron so that he has a chance to see what is going on. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Sep 14 2:26:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1529156E2 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 02:26:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA82218; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 02:24:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Doug Rabson Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , A.Leidinger@WJPServer.CS.Uni-SB.de, Dag-Erling Smorgrav , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: newpcm and Vibra16X In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:27:01 BST." Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 02:24:45 -0700 Message-ID: <82214.937301085@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > If this is a card you own, please just wrap it up and put it in the post > to Cameron so that he has a chance to see what is going on. If only it were - it's the on-board sound on my Tyan Thunder 100 Mobo. If you or anyone else knows of a particular card which uses this chip, however, then I'd be happy to pick one up. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Sep 14 2:31:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328AC14EC8 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 02:31:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA30094; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 10:32:08 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 10:32:08 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: A.Leidinger@WJPServer.CS.Uni-SB.de, Dag-Erling Smorgrav , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: newpcm and Vibra16X In-Reply-To: <82214.937301085@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > If this is a card you own, please just wrap it up and put it in the post > > to Cameron so that he has a chance to see what is going on. > > If only it were - it's the on-board sound on my Tyan Thunder 100 Mobo. > If you or anyone else knows of a particular card which uses this chip, > however, then I'd be happy to pick one up. Peter mumbled something about 'borrowing' the card from his wife's machine to see if it was one of the bad ones. I don't know if it was though. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Sep 14 4:52:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from post.bgnett.no (post.bgnett.no [194.54.96.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC1941509F for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 04:52:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from erik@habatech.no) Received: from bsdbox.habatech.no ([62.92.133.3]) by post.bgnett.no (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA24615 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 13:52:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from erik@habatech.no) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 13:51:56 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: erik@habatech.no Organization: Habatech AS From: "Erik H. Bakke" To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: if_ed PnP problems Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG With the recent changes to the if_ed driver, it refuses to initialize my card. It reports: unknown0 at isa0 From debugging the probing it seems that the driver fails in ed_alloc_ports() returning ENOENT. Switching the BIOS settings to and from PnP aware OS did not help. Any suggestions? The card is a standard NE2000 compatible ISA PnP card (ID 0x0090252a), and it worked as it should with the old driver. ===========================+================+=============================== Erik H. Bakke | | To be or not to be... Senior Consultant/Developer|erik@habatech.no| Is simply a question of Habatech AS | | binary logic ===========================+================+============================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Sep 14 6:22:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gal.netlab.sk (gal.netlab.sk [195.168.1.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C66DB15094 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 06:22:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tps@arc.netlab.sk) Received: from tps (eXtensa.nova.TI.tps.sk [195.168.29.35]) by gal.netlab.sk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA41252 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 15:22:15 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: From: "Tomas TPS Ulej" To: Subject: make kernel fails Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 15:22:13 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG CVSUP + make world from today is ok. Than I tried recompilation of kernel. Exits with: /libkern/strlen.c ../../libkern/strncmp.c ../../libkern/strncpy.c ../../libkern/udivdi3.c ../../libkern/umoddi3.c ../../pci/ide_pci.c ioconf.c param.c vnode_if.c config.c ../../pci/if_rl.c:123: miibus_if.h: No such file or directory ../../pci/if_tl.c:227: miibus_if.h: No such file or directory ../../pci/if_wb.c:129: miibus_if.h: No such file or directory ../../pci/if_xl.c:134: miibus_if.h: No such file or directory mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 -- Tomas 'TPS' Ulej tomas@ulej.sk, tu36-ripe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Sep 14 7:48: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dns.MexComUSA.net (cm4094.cableco-op.com [208.138.40.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 336411529E for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 07:48:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@MexComUSA.net) Received: from MexComUSA.net (cm-208-138-47-186.cableco-op.ispchannel.com [208.138.47.186]) by dns.MexComUSA.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA52095; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 07:47:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@MexComUSA.net) Message-ID: <37DE601F.7F9F8C1A@MexComUSA.net> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 14:47:59 +0000 From: Edwin Culp Organization: Mexico Communicates X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tomas@ulej.sk Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make kernel fails References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had that a few days back and just added controller miibus0 to my kernel config file for my xl0 controler. provecho, ed Tomas TPS Ulej wrote: > CVSUP + make world from today is ok. Than I tried recompilation of kernel. > Exits with: > > /libkern/strlen.c ../../libkern/strncmp.c ../../libkern/strncpy.c > ../../libkern/udivdi3.c ../../libkern/umoddi3.c ../../pci/ide_pci.c > ioconf.c param.c vnode_if.c config.c > ../../pci/if_rl.c:123: miibus_if.h: No such file or directory > ../../pci/if_tl.c:227: miibus_if.h: No such file or directory > ../../pci/if_wb.c:129: miibus_if.h: No such file or directory > ../../pci/if_xl.c:134: miibus_if.h: No such file or directory > mkdep: compile failed > *** Error code 1 > > -- > Tomas 'TPS' Ulej > tomas@ulej.sk, tu36-ripe > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Sep 14 8:18:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ayukawa.aus.org (ayukawa.aus.org [199.166.246.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8021C153EE for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 08:18:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lh@aus.org) Received: from PHOENIX.ZER0.NET (lh@ZER0.NET [199.166.246.189]) by ayukawa.aus.org (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA04856 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:18:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:18:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Luke To: current@freebsd.org Subject: -current buildworld Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've been trying the past few days to build a current src , I have removed the src and obj dir and cvs'd a new src tree at least 10 times and keep running into the same problems. I am doing it on a box running current from @6 June. Most of the errors are in include paths , one is in gnu/lib/libgcc it can't find eh-common.h. Then in gnu/groff every makefile's includes dont work, most have a CFLAGS with the -I but no CXXFLAGS I have just been running 'make buildworld -DNOSECURE' Is it possible that it isnt working because its not in /usr/src, but in /usr/src2/src? Thanks --------------------------------------------------- Mitchell's Law of Committees: Any simple problem can be made insoluble if enough meetings are held to discuss it. XFMail 1.3 FreeBSD-current To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Sep 14 11: 7:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD40C1572F for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:07:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: from current1.whistle.com (current1.whistle.com [207.76.205.22]) by alpo.whistle.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA24212; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:07:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:07:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Warner Losh Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Newbus/bus/space info at FBSDcon? In-Reply-To: <199909141732.LAA08420@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG yo guys, are we going to have a lecture on this new-bus/bus-space/new-config/etc/etc. at the FreeBSDcon? This stuff is pretty hard to digest in one hit and it would be great if there was some introductory talk to get us headded int eh right direction.. julian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Sep 14 11:12:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from lamb.sas.com (lamb.sas.com [192.35.83.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D93152B7 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:11:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwd@unx.sas.com) Received: from mozart (mozart.unx.sas.com [192.58.184.8]) by lamb.sas.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA11070 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 14:11:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bb01f39.unx.sas.com by mozart (5.65c/SAS/Domains/5-6-90) id AA22977; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 14:10:33 -0400 Received: (from jwd@localhost) by bb01f39.unx.sas.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA90966 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 14:10:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jwd) From: "John W. DeBoskey" Message-Id: <199909141810.OAA90966@bb01f39.unx.sas.com> Subject: 4.0-19990914-SNAP/xterm/libtermcap/libncurses problem/fix To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 14:10:32 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I just finished doing a test install of 4.0-19990914-SNAP, which worked like a champ. The X11 config with 3.3.5 also went great. However, after everything was up and running, I couldn't start an xterm. The following error was reported: /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libtermcap.so.2" not found Well, not the correct fix, but to get around the problem I did the following: cd /usr/lib && ln -s libncurses.so libtermcap.so.2 A system from just before the ncurses work shows the following: $ uname -a FreeBSD looney.unx.sas.com 4.0-19990827-SNAP FreeBSD 4.0-19990827-SNAP #0: Thu Sep 2 10:38:29 EDT 1999 root@looney.unx.sas.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/LOONEY i386 $ cd /usr/lib $ ls -al libtermcap* -r--r--r-- 2 root wheel 19126 Aug 27 07:14 libtermcap.a lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 15 Aug 27 10:17 libtermcap.so -> libtermcap.so.2 -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 14344 Aug 27 07:14 libtermcap.so.2 -r--r--r-- 2 root wheel 20356 Aug 27 07:14 libtermcap_p.a So, we may want to add the extra symlink as a default. thanks, John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Sep 14 11:25:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A04150E2 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:25:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01112; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:18:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199909141818.LAA01112@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Julian Elischer Cc: Warner Losh , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbus/bus/space info at FBSDcon? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:07:05 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:18:41 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > yo guys, are we going to have a lecture on this > new-bus/bus-space/new-config/etc/etc. at the FreeBSDcon? > > This stuff is pretty hard to digest in one hit and it would be great if > there was some introductory talk to get us headded int eh right > direction.. I was going to touch on some bits of it in the driver intro, and it occurred to me that perhaps I should ask Justin and Doug to be present to provide more detail. Maybe we could take it a step further again and hand part of the session over for a general discussion? The slot is 1.5 hours long; I wasn't expecting to have an hour's material to present and was counting on questions and corrections to fill it out, so something like this might be appropriate. -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Sep 14 11:28:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from magnesium.net (toxic.magnesium.net [204.188.6.238]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B271F1550E for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:28:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from unfurl@magnesium.net) Received: (qmail 49955 invoked by uid 1001); 14 Sep 1999 18:28:42 -0000 Date: 14 Sep 1999 11:28:42 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:28:42 -0700 From: Bill Swingle To: Julian Elischer Cc: Warner Losh , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbus/bus/space info at FBSDcon? Message-ID: <19990914112842.A49867@dub.net> References: <199909141732.LAA08420@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre1i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Unfortunatly the schedule is already totally full, bursting at the seams in fact. It would be very difficult to squeeze another talk in. If Jordan feels that this should be on the schedule we can give a few other ppl the boot I suppose (just kidding) :) -Bill On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 11:07:05AM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: > yo guys, are we going to have a lecture on this > new-bus/bus-space/new-config/etc/etc. at the FreeBSDcon? > > This stuff is pretty hard to digest in one hit and it would be great if > there was some introductory talk to get us headded int eh right > direction.. > > > julian > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message -- -=| --- B i l l S w i n g l e --- http://www.dub.net/ -=| unfurl@dub.net - unfurl@freebsd.org - bill@cdrom.com -=| Different all twisty a of in maze are you, passages little To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Sep 14 11:38:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from pop3-3.enteract.com (pop3-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8915114D45 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:37:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dscheidt@enteract.com) Received: (qmail 26767 invoked from network); 14 Sep 1999 18:37:49 -0000 Received: from shell-1.enteract.com (dscheidt@207.229.143.40) by pop3-3.enteract.com with SMTP; 14 Sep 1999 18:37:49 -0000 Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 13:37:49 -0500 (CDT) From: David Scheidt To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Doug Rabson , A.Leidinger@WJPServer.CS.Uni-SB.de, Dag-Erling Smorgrav , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: newpcm and Vibra16X In-Reply-To: <82214.937301085@localhost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > If this is a card you own, please just wrap it up and put it in the post > > to Cameron so that he has a chance to see what is going on. > > If only it were - it's the on-board sound on my Tyan Thunder 100 Mobo. > If you or anyone else knows of a particular card which uses this chip, > however, then I'd be happy to pick one up. I have a friend with one of these. I will find out what it is, and let you know. David Scheidt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Sep 14 11:51: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0EFF151EF for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:50:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA70399; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 12:50:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id MAA09014; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 12:49:46 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199909141849.MAA09014@harmony.village.org> To: Mike Smith Subject: Re: Newbus/bus/space info at FBSDcon? Cc: Julian Elischer , current@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:18:41 PDT." <199909141818.LAA01112@dingo.cdrom.com> References: <199909141818.LAA01112@dingo.cdrom.com> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 12:49:46 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <199909141818.LAA01112@dingo.cdrom.com> Mike Smith writes: : I was going to touch on some bits of it in the driver intro, and it : occurred to me that perhaps I should ask Justin and Doug to be present : to provide more detail. Maybe we could take it a step further again : and hand part of the session over for a general discussion? : : The slot is 1.5 hours long; I wasn't expecting to have an hour's : material to present and was counting on questions and corrections to : fill it out, so something like this might be appropriate. Hopefully this won't be opposite my talk on the distribution of config files. I'd love to be there for that as well... Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Sep 14 12: 1:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0737414CEC for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 12:01:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA70451; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 13:01:22 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA09140; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 13:00:29 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199909141900.NAA09140@harmony.village.org> To: Edwin Culp Subject: Re: make kernel fails Cc: tomas@ulej.sk, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 14 Sep 1999 14:47:59 -0000." <37DE601F.7F9F8C1A@MexComUSA.net> References: <37DE601F.7F9F8C1A@MexComUSA.net> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 13:00:29 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <37DE601F.7F9F8C1A@MexComUSA.net> Edwin Culp writes: : I had that a few days back and just added : controller miibus0 : to my kernel config file for my xl0 controler. Its even in UPDATING :-) Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Sep 14 12: 8:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from magnesium.net (toxic.magnesium.net [204.188.6.238]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BAB5E14CED for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 12:08:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from unfurl@magnesium.net) Received: (qmail 50626 invoked by uid 1001); 14 Sep 1999 19:08:50 -0000 Date: 14 Sep 1999 12:08:50 -0700 Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 12:08:50 -0700 From: Bill Swingle To: Warner Losh Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbus/bus/space info at FBSDcon? Message-ID: <19990914120849.A50585@dub.net> References: <199909141818.LAA01112@dingo.cdrom.com> <199909141849.MAA09014@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre1i In-Reply-To: <199909141849.MAA09014@harmony.village.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 12:49:46PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <199909141818.LAA01112@dingo.cdrom.com> Mike Smith writes: > : I was going to touch on some bits of it in the driver intro, and it > : occurred to me that perhaps I should ask Justin and Doug to be present > : to provide more detail. Maybe we could take it a step further again > : and hand part of the session over for a general discussion? > : > : The slot is 1.5 hours long; I wasn't expecting to have an hour's > : material to present and was counting on questions and corrections to > : fill it out, so something like this might be appropriate. > > Hopefully this won't be opposite my talk on the distribution of config > files. I'd love to be there for that as well... /me looks at the speaker line-up.... Since you're not on there I suppose this won't happen :) -Bill -- -=| --- B i l l S w i n g l e --- http://www.dub.net/ -=| unfurl@dub.net - unfurl@freebsd.org - bill@cdrom.com -=| Different all twisty a of in maze are you, passages little To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Sep 14 12:45:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns.skylink.it (ns.skylink.it [194.177.113.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA5915579 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 12:43:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hibma@skylink.it) Received: from heidi.plazza.it (va-166.skylink.it [194.185.55.166]) by ns.skylink.it (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA29549; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 21:43:54 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by heidi.plazza.it (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA26110; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 19:44:10 GMT X-No-Spam: Neither the receipients nor the senders email address(s) are to be used for Unsolicited (Commercial) Email without the explicit written consent of either party; as a per-message fee is incurred for inbound and outbound traffic to the originator. Posted-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 19:44:10 GMT Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 21:44:10 +0200 (CEST) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@heidi.plazza.it Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: Mike Smith Cc: Julian Elischer , Warner Losh , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Newbus/bus/space info at FBSDcon? In-Reply-To: <199909141818.LAA01112@dingo.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I was going to touch on some bits of it in the driver intro, and it > occurred to me that perhaps I should ask Justin and Doug to be present > to provide more detail. Maybe we could take it a step further again > and hand part of the session over for a general discussion? > > The slot is 1.5 hours long; I wasn't expecting to have an hour's > material to present and was counting on questions and corrections to > fill it out, so something like this might be appropriate. I'm certainly going to touch on the implementation side in mine (USB). Will you provide Bill with an overview of your presentation tomorrow? And could I have a copy of that as well? Is Doug going to be at the party^H^H^H^H^Hconference as well? Nick -- e-Mail: hibma@skylink.it To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Sep 14 13:26:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dt014nb6.san.rr.com (dt014nb6.san.rr.com [24.30.129.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A54314CA6 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 13:26:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by dt014nb6.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05221; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 13:31:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 13:31:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug X-Sender: doug@dt014nb6.san.rr.com To: tomas@ulej.sk Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: make kernel fails In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, Tomas TPS Ulej wrote: > CVSUP + make world from today is ok. Than I tried recompilation of kernel. > Exits with: > > /libkern/strlen.c ../../libkern/strncmp.c ../../libkern/strncpy.c > ../../libkern/udivdi3.c ../../libkern/umoddi3.c ../../pci/ide_pci.c > ioconf.c param.c vnode_if.c config.c > ../../pci/if_rl.c:123: miibus_if.h: No such file or directory Repeat after me. "If I'm going to run -current I will subscribe to AND READ the -current and -cvs-all mailing lists..." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Sep 14 13:43:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7929A14CEC for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 13:43:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 14 Sep 1999 21:43:26 +0100 (BST) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Problems with device allocation for PCI AdvanSys card. X-Request-Do: Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 21:43:26 +0100 From: David Malone Message-ID: <199909142143.aa64922@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG With 4.0, as of the morning of the 8th September, my PCI AdvanSys SCSI controler has recently stopped working. Previously I used to get: adv0: AdvanSys Ultra SCSI Host Adapter, SCSI ID 7, queue depth 16 devclass_alloc_unit: adv0 already exists, using next available unit number but everything worked fine. Now all I get is: adv1: irq 11 at device 13.0 on pci0 adv: unit number (1) too high and nothing is probed. I'm specifying the controler as it is listed in the GENERIC config file: controller adv0 at isa? port ? irq ? I guess this means that at the very least GENERIC is broken for people. I tried replacing this line with: controller adv0 and everything worked fine. Does some probing code need to be fixed, or does GENERIC need the controler specified both ways to work as both an ISA and a PCI card? David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Sep 14 14:42:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freja.webgiro.com (freja.webgiro.com [212.209.29.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90C1A15301 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 14:42:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abial@webgiro.com) Received: by freja.webgiro.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5691A191A; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 23:43:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freja.webgiro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53A9649D3 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 23:43:08 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 23:43:08 +0200 (CEST) From: Andrzej Bialecki To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Setting MAC address - a plea to authorities Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Thanks to someone's help I found the code that Bill Paul wrote to set the MAC address on the ethernet card. In short, I find it very useful and an excellent addition when building FreeBSD HA solutions. I've heard there was some controversy about how these types of things should be done and where, but the fact is that as for now it's the only way to do it (that actually works and is here). Can we please have these issues resolved so that this functionality can be added to the base system? Thanks a lot! Andrzej Bialecki // WebGiro AB, Sweden (http://www.webgiro.com) // ------------------------------------------------------------------- // ------ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve. http://www.freebsd.org -------- // --- Small & Embedded FreeBSD: http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ ---- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Sep 14 14:49:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from hcshh.hcs.de (hcshh.hcs.de [194.123.40.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4EDBA14C8A for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 14:49:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hm@hcs.de) Received: from hcswork.hcs.de([192.76.124.5]) (1687 bytes) by hcshh.hcs.de via sendmail with P:smtp/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 23:32:02 +0200 (CEST) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Dec-11) Received: by hcswork.hcs.de (Smail3.1.29.0 #13) id m11R0B0-0003d2C; Tue, 14 Sep 99 23:31 METDST Message-Id: From: hm@hcs.de (Hellmuth Michaelis) Subject: Re: Newbus/bus/space info at FBSDcon? In-Reply-To: from Julian Elischer at "Sep 14, 99 11:07:05 am" To: julian@whistle.com (Julian Elischer) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 23:31:46 +0200 (METDST) Cc: imp@village.org, current@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: hm@hcs.de Organization: HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 793 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From the keyboard of Julian Elischer: > yo guys, are we going to have a lecture on this > new-bus/bus-space/new-config/etc/etc. at the FreeBSDcon? > > This stuff is pretty hard to digest in one hit and it would be great if > there was some introductory talk to get us headded int eh right > direction.. And it would be great to get this somehow online available for those not being able to throw private $$$$ at airlines, hotels, registration, restaurants, taxis etc. hellmuth -- Hellmuth Michaelis Tel +49 40 559747-70 HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH Fax +49 40 559747-77 Oldesloer Strasse 97-99 Mail hm [at] hcs.de 22457 Hamburg WWW http://www.hcs.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Sep 14 17:50:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A6DF15104 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 17:50:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (iras-2-74.ucdavis.edu [169.237.16.202]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA23703; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 17:50:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA13291; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 17:50:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 17:50:05 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Luke Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -current buildworld Message-ID: <19990914175005.A13270@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre1i In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Is it possible that it isnt working because its not in /usr/src, but in > /usr/src2/src? No. I would check and see if you have /usr/local/bin/gcc or any other "gcc" named compilers anywhere. Also cd /usr/src (for convience make it a sym link to /usr/src2/src) make cleandir && make cleandir -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Sep 14 18:53:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from isds.duke.edu (davinci.isds.duke.edu [152.3.22.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0921524E for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 18:53:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sto@stat.Duke.EDU) Received: from cayenne.isds.duke.edu (cayenne.isds.duke.edu [152.3.22.11]) by isds.duke.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA11854 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 21:53:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from sto@localhost) by cayenne.isds.duke.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA07855 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 21:53:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990914215316.A7851@stat.Duke.EDU> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 21:53:16 -0400 From: "Sean O'Connell" To: FreeBSD current Subject: newpcm and rvplayer Reply-To: "Sean O'Connell" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 X-Organization: Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello- This is a second try at this. I updating my kernel to current as of September 12 1999 and have been consistently able to panic my machine when attempting to use real audio (rvplayer5 under linux compatibility) The panic is in feeder.c of the newpcm device with $FreeBSD: src/sys/dev/pcm/feeder.c,v 1.3 1999/09/04 17:08:30 cg Exp$ The hardware is a Crystal CS4236B: pcm0: at port 0x530-0x533,0x388-0x38b,0x220-0x22f irq 5 drq 0,1 on isa0 Error message is: panic: feed_root: count == 0 Bactrace: (kgdb) bt #0 boot (howto=260) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:281 #1 0xc013008d in panic (fmt=0xc01ea614 "from debugger") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:531 #2 0xc01194c5 in db_panic (addr=-1071896353, have_addr=0, count=-1, modif=0xc7cdbc3c "") at ../../ddb/db_command.c:433 #3 0xc0119465 in db_command (last_cmdp=0xc020fae8, cmd_table=0xc020f948, aux_cmd_tablep=0xc02288d4) at ../../ddb/db_command.c:333 #4 0xc011952a in db_command_loop () at ../../ddb/db_command.c:455 #5 0xc011b5af in db_trap (type=3, code=0) at ../../ddb/db_trap.c:71 #6 0xc01c269c in kdb_trap (type=3, code=0, regs=0xc7cdbd30) at ../../i386/i386/db_interface.c:157 #7 0xc01cda58 in trap (frame={tf_fs = -1060569072, tf_es = 16, tf_ds = -1061158896, tf_edi = -942817540, tf_esi = 256, tf_ebp = -942817928, tf_isp = -942817956, tf_ebx = -1071659632, tf_edx = -1071635441, tf_ecx = 0, tf_eax = 18, tf_trapno = 3, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1071896353, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 598, tf_esp = -1071635457, tf_ss = -1071721021}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:534 #8 0xc01c28df in Debugger (msg=0xc01ed5c3 "panic") at machine/cpufunc.h:64 #9 0xc0130084 in panic (fmt=0xc01fc590 "feed_root: count == 0") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:529 #10 0xc01a9501 in feed_root (feeder=0xc021d600, buffer=0xc6d34efe "\025\r", count=0, stream=0xc7cdbefc) at ../../dev/pcm/feeder.c:112 #11 0xc01a8afc in chn_write (c=0xc0a4da00, buf=0xc7cdbefc) at ../../dev/pcm/channel.c:286 #12 0xc01a7bec in dsp_write (d=0xc0682400, chan=0, buf=0xc7cdbefc, flag=17) at ../../dev/pcm/dsp.c:187 #13 0xc01a7099 in sndwrite (i_dev=0xc0b6f100, buf=0xc7cdbefc, flag=17) at ../../dev/pcm/sound.c:310 #14 0xc0163ca4 in spec_write (ap=0xc7cdbeb4) at ../../miscfs/specfs/spec_vnops.c:369 #15 0xc0195d3c in ufsspec_write (ap=0xc7cdbeb4) at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:1858 #16 0xc0196251 in ufs_vnoperatespec (ap=0xc7cdbeb4) at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:2313 #17 0xc015df1e in vn_write (fp=0xc0c91100, uio=0xc7cdbefc, cred=0xc0c04e00, flags=0) at vnode_if.h:331 #18 0xc013ccd0 in dofilewrite (p=0xc74e4b80, fp=0xc0c91100, fd=6, buf=0x81d78c8, nbyte=132, offset=-1, flags=0) at ../../kern/sys_generic.c:363 #19 0xc013cbdf in write (p=0xc74e4b80, uap=0xc7cdbf80) at ../../kern/sys_generic.c:298 #20 0xc01ce26a in syscall (frame={tf_fs = 135921711, tf_es = -1078001617, tf_ds = -1078001617, tf_edi = 135922760, tf_esi = -1077947048, tf_ebp = -1077947152, tf_isp = -942817324, tf_ebx = 6, tf_edx = 132, tf_ecx = 136149192, tf_eax = 4, tf_trapno = 22, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 674069812, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 582, tf_esp = -1077947156, tf_ss = 47}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:1056 #21 0xc01c2f96 in Xint0x80_syscall () #22 0x80f3b44 in ?? () #23 0x80f2e40 in ?? () #24 0x80ef1cd in ?? () #25 0x80d79f0 in ?? () #26 0x80d7709 in ?? () #27 0x80d5f5c in ?? () #28 0x80cbf2d in ?? () #29 0x80cafb7 in ?? () #30 0x807ee36 in ?? () #31 0x807d230 in ?? () #32 0x8094ccd in ?? () #33 0x80797b4 in ?? () #34 0x8076fb8 in ?? () #35 0x8076abb in ?? () (kgdb) -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Sean O'Connell Email: sean@stat.Duke.EDU Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Phone: (919) 684-5419 Duke University Fax: (919) 684-8594 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Sep 14 22:47:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from esmeralda.xaa.iae.nl (esmeralda.xaa.iae.nl [194.151.75.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E84414E1E for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 22:47:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@xaa.iae.nl) Received: from ariel.xaa.iae.nl (ariel.xaa.iae.nl [194.151.75.10]) by esmeralda.xaa.iae.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFD0ABA1D for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 07:47:51 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ariel.xaa.iae.nl (Postfix, from userid 1008) id 547041FB2; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 07:47:51 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 07:47:51 +0200 From: Mark Huizer To: current@freebsd.org Subject: make -DWANT_AOUT build stops in ncurses Message-ID: <19990915074751.A14437@ariel.xaa.iae.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre1i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm trying to build the aout libraries on a machine I had to reinstall recently. But I can't make the world with the AOUT legacy stuff, breaking in ncurses on bad magic for /usr/lib/libgcc.a I'll try to do my next make world to a file or under X so I might be able to reproduce the exact error, but does anyone have other experiences with the legacy build? Mark -- Nice testing in little China... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Sep 14 23:27:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (border.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC545150AF for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 23:27:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <40343>; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 16:25:11 +1000 Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 16:27:16 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Building PicoBSD To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <99Sep15.162511est.40343@border.alcanet.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm trying to build a `net' PicoBSD on a -current system and am running into problems that appear to be inside make(1) (and how it imports/exports/treats MAKEFLAGS). I thought I'd try to shrink things by stripping the ISDN and RADIUS support out of ppp (amongst other things), but ppp/i4b.c kept getting included in the crunch1.cache and crunch1.mk. I eventually wound up with the patches below which: 1) Within crunchgen(8), explicitly pass the environment MAKEFLAGS to the subordinate make as a commandline option. 2) Add various options to net/crunch1/Makefile's MAKEFLAGS to disable unwanted bits and pieces. 3) Explicitly pass MAKEFLAGS to both crunchgen and the `build it all` make. 4) Remote ipfw and -lradius from the crunch.conf file. 5) Fix the password diffs to suit a -current system. (Note that there is a generic problem with including the $FreeBSD$ tag in the diffs). The result of all this is that ppp/i4b.o _has_ been left out (suggesting that the -DNOI4B in MAKEFLAGS is being seen), but ppp/nat_cmd.o and ppp/chap_ms.o are still being included (suggesting that the -DNONAT, -DNOALIAS, -DRELEASE_CRUNCH and -DNOCRYPT _aren't_ being seen). Does anyone have any ideas? I _hope_ I'm doing soething silly... Index: src/usr.sbin/crunch/crunchgen/crunchgen.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/CVSROOT/./src/usr.sbin/crunch/crunchgen/crunchgen.c,v retrieving revision 1.11 diff -u -r1.11 crunchgen.c --- crunchgen.c 1998/09/14 11:33:38 1.11 +++ crunchgen.c 1999/09/15 05:41:23 @@ -544,7 +544,7 @@ fprintf(f, "crunchgen_objs:\n\t@echo 'OBJS= '${OBJS}\n"); fclose(f); - sprintf(line, "make -f %s crunchgen_objs 2>&1", tempfname); + sprintf(line, "make 'MAKEFLAGS=$MAKEFLAGS' -f %s crunchgen_objs 2>&1", tempfname); if((f = popen(line, "r")) == NULL) { warn("submake pipe"); goterror = 1; Index: src/release/picobsd/net/crunch1/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/CVSROOT/./src/release/picobsd/net/crunch1/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -r1.5 Makefile --- Makefile 1999/08/28 01:33:39 1.5 +++ Makefile 1999/09/15 05:47:50 @@ -3,6 +3,8 @@ # SRC?=/usr/src +MAKEFLAGS+=-DNOPAM -DNOSECURE -DNOCRYPT -DRELEASE_CRUNCH -DNOI4B -DNORADIUS -DNONAT + all: crunch crunch: @@ -11,8 +13,8 @@ touch /usr/src/usr.bin/passwd/.picobsd.patched; \ fi @cat crunch.conf|sed -e "s@/usr/src@${SRC}@" >crunch1.conf - @crunchgen ./crunch1.conf - @${MAKE} -f crunch1.mk -DNOPAM all \ + @MAKEFLAGS="${MAKEFLAGS}" crunchgen ./crunch1.conf + @${MAKE} ${MAKEFLAGS} -f crunch1.mk -DNOPAM all \ "CFLAGS=${CFLAGS} -DRELEASE_CRUNCH -DCRUNCHED_BINARY -DNOSECURE -DNOCRYPT" #2>&1 >/dev/null clean: Index: src/release/picobsd/net/crunch1/crunch.conf =================================================================== RCS file: /home/CVSROOT/./src/release/picobsd/net/crunch1/crunch.conf,v retrieving revision 1.9 diff -u -r1.9 crunch.conf --- crunch.conf 1999/08/28 01:33:39 1.9 +++ crunch.conf 1999/09/15 05:52:33 @@ -25,7 +25,8 @@ progs pwd ppp telnet more progs passwd date -progs mount_cd9660 mount_nfs ping traceroute routed ipfw +progs mount_cd9660 mount_nfs ping traceroute routed +# ipfw ln mount_cd9660 cd9660 ln mount_nfs nfs @@ -42,4 +43,4 @@ libs -lncurses -lmytinfo -lipx -lz -lpcap -lalias -lwrap libs -ledit -lutil -lmd -lcrypt -lmp -lgmp -lm -lkvm libs -lgnuregex -ltelnet -libs -lradius # used by ppp +# libs -lradius # used by ppp Index: src/release/picobsd/net/crunch1/passwd.diff =================================================================== RCS file: /home/CVSROOT/./src/release/picobsd/net/crunch1/passwd.diff,v retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -r1.5 passwd.diff --- passwd.diff 1999/08/28 01:33:39 1.5 +++ passwd.diff 1999/09/13 03:08:52 @@ -2,14 +2,14 @@ --- Makefile Sat Aug 1 20:40:38 1998 *************** *** 2,24 **** - # $FreeBSD: ./src/release/picobsd/net/crunch1/passwd.diff,v 1.5 1999/08/28 01:33:39 peter Exp $ + # $FreeBSD: ./src/usr.bin/passwd/Makefile,v 1.34 1999/09/06 17:30:02 peter Exp $ PROG= passwd ! SRCS= local_passwd.c passwd.c pw_copy.c pw_util.c pw_yp.c \ ! yp_passwd.c ypxfr_misc.c ${GENSRCS} GENSRCS=yp.h yp_clnt.c yppasswd.h yppasswd_clnt.c \ yppasswd_private.h yppasswd_private_clnt.c yppasswd_private_xdr.c - CFLAGS+=-Wall -DPASSWD_IGNORE_COMMENTS + CFLAGS+=-Wall ! DPADD= ${LIBCRYPT} ${LIBRPCSVC} ${LIBUTIL} ! LDADD= -lcrypt -lrpcsvc -lutil @@ -26,14 +26,14 @@ CLEANFILES= ${GENSRCS} --- 2,21 ---- - # $FreeBSD: ./src/release/picobsd/net/crunch1/passwd.diff,v 1.5 1999/08/28 01:33:39 peter Exp $ + # $FreeBSD: ./src/usr.bin/passwd/Makefile,v 1.34 1999/09/06 17:30:02 peter Exp $ PROG= passwd ! SRCS= local_passwd.c passwd.c pw_copy.c pw_util.c ! GENSRCS=yp.h yp_clnt.c yppasswd.h yppasswd_clnt.c \ yppasswd_private.h yppasswd_private_clnt.c yppasswd_private_xdr.c - CFLAGS+=-Wall -DPASSWD_IGNORE_COMMENTS + CFLAGS+=-Wall ! DPADD= ${LIBCRYPT} ${LIBUTIL} ! LDADD= -lcrypt -lutil Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Tue Sep 14 23:44:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC42314A2B for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 23:44:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.198.124]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAAC6B; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 08:44:40 +0200 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA36949; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 08:32:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 08:32:44 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Bruce Evans Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: profiling on kernels Message-ID: <19990915083244.D33577@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <19990913074343.B89309@daemon.ninth-circle.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Bruce Evans (bde@zeta.org.au) [990913 13:44]: >> I checked, I do have rev 1.14 in place and it borks. >> >> How far off is the chance of -p going haywire with some kernel options? > >Not large. I run regression tests on GENERIC and LINT (config -pp) on >most days. Profiling hasn't caused any compile-time problems for several >months (-pp is only broken at runtime). Well, I did a make world last night from fresh cvsup'd sources and made a new kernel this morning with profiling. 'lo and behold 't werks. Odd. For I, on both occasions, got rid of /usr/obj, /usr/src, checked the latest sources out and made a new kernel. *shrug* I will keep monitoring it, just in case =) But since that works *shrugs* -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project Network/Security Specialist BSD: Technical excellence at its best O Death! the poor man's dearest friend- The kindest and the best. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Sep 15 0: 9:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from lips.lcse.umn.edu (lips.lcse.umn.edu [128.101.182.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8364314D72; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 00:09:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cattelan@thebarn.com) Received: from thebarn.com (lupo [128.101.182.203]) by lips.lcse.umn.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA13413; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 02:09:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <37DF461C.2F701BF1@thebarn.com> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 02:09:16 -0500 From: Russell Cattelan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Stromberg Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, ghlemer@FreeBSD.ORG, peter@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: newpcm broke the Esoniq 1371 Driver Hack? References: <37D91BF2.2A871AEF@rtci.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a *VERY*preliminary version of the 1371 driver working with the newpcm code. Testing includes playing one mp3 track and adjusting the volume a few times. In other words I'm not making any promises. If anybody really needs to play with it. ftp://ftp.thebarn.com/outgoing/es1371-newpcm.src4.patch Thomas Stromberg wrote: > I've been using the Esoniq 1371 Driver from > http://www.freebsd.org/~ghelmer/es1371/ (written by Russell Cattelan?) > on my 4.0-CURRENT box for a few weeks now. It's just a hack replacement > for es1370.c/es1370_reg.h, but it worked fine up until a week ago or so > when I presume the newpcm code went into place. It works against my > 27AUG99 kernel however. > -- Russell Cattelan cattelan@thebarn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Sep 15 1:10:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gal.netlab.sk (gal.netlab.sk [195.168.1.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A4814DA2 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 01:10:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomas@ulej.sk) Received: from 195.168.60.55 (dial055.ba.netlab.sk [195.168.60.55]) by gal.netlab.sk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA70100 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 10:10:23 +0200 (CEST) From: tomas@ulej.sk Message-Id: <199909150810.KAA70100@gal.netlab.sk> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 9:48 +0100 Subject: RE: Re: make kernel fails To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From today I will ever read VERY CAREFULL UPDATING file :) Thanx for all notices... -- tomas@ulej.sk --------------Replied message-------------- Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 13:00:29 -0600 From: Warner Losh To: Edwin Culp Cc: tomas@ulej.sk, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make kernel fails Message-ID: <199909141900.NAA09140@harmony.village.org> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 14 Sep 1999 14:47:59 - 0000." <37DE601F.7F9F8C1A@MexComUSA.net> In message <37DE601F.7F9F8C1A@MexComUSA.net> Edwin Culp writes: : I had that a few days back and just added : controller miibus0 : to my kernel config file for my xl0 controler. Its even in UPDATING :-) Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Sep 15 1:12: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D71A14DA2 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 01:12:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA91138; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 09:13:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 09:13:30 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: "Erik H. Bakke" Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: if_ed PnP problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, Erik H. Bakke wrote: > With the recent changes to the if_ed driver, it refuses to initialize my > card. > It reports: > unknown0 at isa0 > > >From debugging the probing it seems that the driver fails in > ed_alloc_ports() returning ENOENT. > > Switching the BIOS settings to and from PnP aware OS did not help. > > Any suggestions? > > The card is a standard NE2000 compatible ISA PnP card (ID 0x0090252a), > and it worked as it should with the old driver. I know what is wrong now and I should have a fix in a couple of days. I am parsing the pnp resources wrongly for this card. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Sep 15 1:14:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F286A14A1C for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 01:14:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA91359; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 09:16:03 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 09:16:03 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Nick Hibma Cc: Mike Smith , Julian Elischer , Warner Losh , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbus/bus/space info at FBSDcon? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, Nick Hibma wrote: > > I was going to touch on some bits of it in the driver intro, and it > > occurred to me that perhaps I should ask Justin and Doug to be present > > to provide more detail. Maybe we could take it a step further again > > and hand part of the session over for a general discussion? > > > > The slot is 1.5 hours long; I wasn't expecting to have an hour's > > material to present and was counting on questions and corrections to > > fill it out, so something like this might be appropriate. > > I'm certainly going to touch on the implementation side in mine (USB). > Will you provide Bill with an overview of your presentation tomorrow? > And could I have a copy of that as well? > > Is Doug going to be at the party^H^H^H^H^Hconference as well? I will be there and I'm happy to support anyone's presentation by answering the 'hard' questions. I don't think I have enough time to prepare anything myself but since the schedule is full, that isn't a problem :-). -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Sep 15 1:20:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from magnesium.net (toxic.magnesium.net [204.188.6.238]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7A7C314A1C for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 01:20:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from unfurl@magnesium.net) Received: (qmail 64013 invoked by uid 1001); 15 Sep 1999 08:20:34 -0000 Date: 15 Sep 1999 01:20:34 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 01:20:34 -0700 From: Bill Swingle To: Doug Rabson Cc: Nick Hibma , Mike Smith , Julian Elischer , Warner Losh , current@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSDCon Speaker Schedule [was: Newbus/bus/space info at FBSDcon?] Message-ID: <19990915012034.B63898@dub.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre1i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 09:16:03AM +0100, Doug Rabson wrote: > I will be there and I'm happy to support anyone's presentation by > answering the 'hard' questions. I don't think I have enough time to > prepare anything myself but since the schedule is full, that isn't a > problem :-). Just to throw a monkeywrench in the work at the last minute... Do to the influx of new and valuable talk proposals that hit my desk today we're going to run a third set of talks at the conference. This opens up 7 new 1.5 hour slots. If you'd like to present something, please do contact me. :) -Bill -- -=| --- B i l l S w i n g l e --- http://www.dub.net/ -=| unfurl@dub.net - unfurl@freebsd.org - bill@cdrom.com -=| Different all twisty a of in maze are you, passages little To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Sep 15 1:23:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23E9E14EDB for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 01:23:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from semuta.feral.com (semuta [192.67.166.70]) by feral.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA17191; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 01:20:42 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 01:22:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Bill Swingle Cc: Doug Rabson , Nick Hibma , Mike Smith , Julian Elischer , Warner Losh , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSDCon Speaker Schedule [was: Newbus/bus/space info at FBSDcon?] In-Reply-To: <19990915012034.B63898@dub.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 09:16:03AM +0100, Doug Rabson wrote: > > I will be there and I'm happy to support anyone's presentation by > > answering the 'hard' questions. I don't think I have enough time to > > prepare anything myself but since the schedule is full, that isn't a > > problem :-). > > Just to throw a monkeywrench in the work at the last minute... > > Do to the influx of new and valuable talk proposals that hit my desk > today we're going to run a third set of talks at the conference. This > opens up 7 new 1.5 hour slots. If you'd like to present something, please do > contact me. :) Scroan... I was just seeing if I could wiggle out of my Fibre Channel talk... guess not then... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Sep 15 1:29:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from zabagek.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (zabagek.ihf.RWTH-Aachen.DE [134.130.90.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BDDD14F0D for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 01:28:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tg@ihf.rwth-aachen.de) Received: (from tg@localhost) by zabagek.ihf.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA03856; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 10:29:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from tg) To: Bill Swingle Cc: Doug Rabson , Nick Hibma , Mike Smith , Julian Elischer , Warner Losh , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSDCon Speaker Schedule [was: Newbus/bus/space info at FBSDcon?] References: <19990915012034.B63898@dub.net> From: Thomas Gellekum In-Reply-To: Bill Swingle's message of "Wed, 15 Sep 1999 01:20:34 -0700, Wed, 15 Sep 1999 01:20:34 -0700" Date: 15 Sep 1999 10:29:04 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 10 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070095 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.95) XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bill Swingle writes: > Do to the influx of new and valuable talk proposals that hit my desk > today we're going to run a third set of talks at the conference. This > opens up 7 new 1.5 hour slots. If you'd like to present something, please do > contact me. :) Will the slides/notes/articles/whatever be available online? tg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Sep 15 1:30:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from magnesium.net (toxic.magnesium.net [204.188.6.238]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1A67214EDB for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 01:30:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from unfurl@magnesium.net) Received: (qmail 64304 invoked by uid 1001); 15 Sep 1999 08:30:35 -0000 Date: 15 Sep 1999 01:30:35 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 01:30:35 -0700 From: Bill Swingle To: Thomas Gellekum Cc: Doug Rabson , Nick Hibma , Mike Smith , Julian Elischer , Warner Losh , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSDCon Speaker Schedule [was: Newbus/bus/space info at FBSDcon?] Message-ID: <19990915013035.B64206@dub.net> References: <19990915012034.B63898@dub.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre1i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 10:29:04AM +0200, Thomas Gellekum wrote: > Bill Swingle writes: > > > Do to the influx of new and valuable talk proposals that hit my desk > > today we're going to run a third set of talks at the conference. This > > opens up 7 new 1.5 hour slots. If you'd like to present something, please do > > contact me. :) > > Will the slides/notes/articles/whatever be available online? Yes, whatever materials the speakers supply me with will be availble online. -Bill -- -=| --- B i l l S w i n g l e --- http://www.dub.net/ -=| unfurl@dub.net - unfurl@freebsd.org - bill@cdrom.com -=| Different all twisty a of in maze are you, passages little To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Sep 15 2: 4:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B32F31501F for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 02:04:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id SAA37099; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 18:34:01 +0930 (CST) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 18:34:01 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Warner Losh Cc: Mike Smith , Julian Elischer , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Newbus/bus/space info at FBSDcon? Message-ID: <19990915183401.A30655@freebie.lemis.com> References: <199909141818.LAA01112@dingo.cdrom.com> <199909141849.MAA09014@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199909141849.MAA09014@harmony.village.org>; from Warner Losh on Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 12:49:46PM -0600 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, 14 September 1999 at 12:49:46 -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <199909141818.LAA01112@dingo.cdrom.com> Mike Smith writes: > : I was going to touch on some bits of it in the driver intro, and it > : occurred to me that perhaps I should ask Justin and Doug to be present > : to provide more detail. Maybe we could take it a step further again > : and hand part of the session over for a general discussion? > : > : The slot is 1.5 hours long; I wasn't expecting to have an hour's > : material to present and was counting on questions and corrections to > : fill it out, so something like this might be appropriate. > > Hopefully this won't be opposite my talk on the distribution of config > files. I'd love to be there for that as well... Ditto with Vinum. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Sep 15 2:12:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1FF915059 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 02:12:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA40556 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 02:12:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 02:12:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Annelise Anderson To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Buildworld failing -- amd Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My buildworld failed as follows with sources of just a couple of hours ago, but I understand it's fixed already. Annelise cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd -I. -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../include -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/include -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c mount_xdr.c cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/amd -I. -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../include -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd/include -I/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/amd/../../../contrib/amd -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -o amd conf_parse.o conf_tok.o am_ops.o amd.o amfs_auto.o amfs_direct.o amfs_error.o amfs_host.o amfs_inherit.o amfs_link.o amfs_linkx.o amfs_nfsl.o amfs_nfsx.o amfs_program.o amfs_root.o amfs_toplvl.o amfs_union.o amq_subr.o amq_svc.o autil.o clock.o conf.o get_args.o info_file.o info_ndbm.o info_nis.o info_passwd.o info_union.o map.o mapc.o mntfs.o nfs_prot_svc.o nfs_start.o nfs_subr.o ops_cdfs.o ops_lofs.o ops_mfs.o ops_nfs.o ops_nfs3.o ops_nullfs.o ops_pcfs.o ops_tfs.o ops_ufs.o ops_umapfs.o ops_unionfs.o opts.o restart.o rpc_fwd.o sched.o srvr_amfs_auto.o srvr_nfs.o mount_xdr.o /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/amd/libamu/libamu.a -lrpcsvc amfs_toplvl.o: In function `mount_amfs_toplvl': amfs_toplvl.o(.text+0x179): undefined reference to `compute_automounter_mount_flags' *** Error code 1 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Sep 15 2:30:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freja.webgiro.com (freja.webgiro.com [212.209.29.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DF7214FCE for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 02:30:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abial@webgiro.com) Received: by freja.webgiro.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0ED361916; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 11:31:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freja.webgiro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07FA649D3; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 11:31:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 11:31:21 +0200 (CEST) From: Andrzej Bialecki To: "David J. Clark" Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Setting MAC address - a plea to authorities In-Reply-To: <37DF096B.A1F44D2A@lmco.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, David J. Clark wrote: > Could you forward me said code ? You are not the first person who asks me this question, so I take a liberty of CC:'ing this to the list. The said code is located at: http://www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/mac.tar.gz and consists of a KLD module implementing the new functionality, and a small program (which eventually should be a part of ifconfig, I suppose) that you can use to set MAC address. If I understand correctly, only minority of ethernet cards supports this. I tested it with Intel Etherexpress 100B (fxp driver) and it works. BTW. Thank you, Bill, for this software! Andrzej Bialecki // WebGiro AB, Sweden (http://www.webgiro.com) // ------------------------------------------------------------------- // ------ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve. http://www.freebsd.org -------- // --- Small & Embedded FreeBSD: http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ ---- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Sep 15 5:21:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from oskar.nanoteq.co.za (oskar.nanoteq.co.za [196.37.91.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B747E14EBA for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 05:21:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rbezuide@oskar.nanoteq.co.za) Received: (from rbezuide@localhost) by oskar.nanoteq.co.za (8.9.0/8.9.0) id NAA15979 for freebsd-current@freeBSD.org; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:58:26 +0200 (SAT) From: Reinier Bezuidenhout Message-Id: <199909151158.NAA15979@oskar.nanoteq.co.za> Subject: pnp in userconfig To: freebsd-current@freeBSD.org Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:58:24 +0200 (SAT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi ... I've got a -current of about a week ago .. when I boot in user config, pnp is no longer listed as a command. when executing pnp .. it says "Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for help." Is pnp command no longer in user config in -current ??? Thanx Reinier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Sep 15 14:48: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E4E14DEF for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 14:48:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA56246; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:39:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:39:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: papowell@astart.com Subject: Re: ports/13729: strip(1) exits with an error on script file - causes severe portability problems In-Reply-To: <19990913162719.9248414CAC@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 papowell@astart.com wrote: This kind of thing, where there is no bug ... where the subject is a request for a new feature, isn't this kind of thing the wrong way for folks to be using the trouble reporting system? Or is this the way we want it to happen? It seems to me that allowing such use of gnats makes it miserably hard for folks to close some PRs. > > >Number: 13729 > >Category: ports > >Synopsis: strip(1) exits with an error on script file - causes severe portability problems > >Confidential: no > >Severity: serious > >Priority: medium > >Responsible: freebsd-ports > >State: open > >Quarter: > >Keywords: > >Date-Required: > >Class: sw-bug > >Submitter-Id: current-users > >Arrival-Date: Mon Sep 13 09:30:01 PDT 1999 > >Closed-Date: > >Last-Modified: > >Originator: Patrick Powell > >Release: 3.2-Release, 4-Current > >Organization: > Astart Technologies > >Environment: > >Description: > strip(1) fails with an error when asked to strip shell > scripts. This behavior is documented as follows: > > DESCRIPTION > GNU strip discards all symbols from the object files > objfile. The list of object files may include archives. > At least one object file must be given. > > > strip modifies the files named in its argument, rather > than writing modified copies under different names. > > In many install scripts for code you have: > $(INSTALL) -s .... > ^^^ -s specified for ALL installable executable > objects including perl scripts, shell, scripts, > etc. > > > This requires a huge amount of effort when porting to FreeBSD because > you now have to determine which executables can or cannot be stripped. > > I strongly recommend you do a test in the strip code for ALLOWABLE > magic numbers, strip those, and ignore the rest.I > >How-To-Repeat: > strip a shell script - you get an error. > More seri > >Fix: > 1. modify man page to indicate that strip only works on object > files or executable files, and ignores others > 2. modify action so that it checks to see if it has an allowable > item to strip and then does it. > > In the strip code, find the place where it checks for 'magic numbers' > of allowable executables, and rather than exiting with a non-zero > error code, simply exit with a 0 error code or continue to the > next file to strip. > > >Release-Note: > >Audit-Trail: > >Unformatted: > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message > ---------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@mat.net | communications topic, C programming, Unix and 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | carpentry. It's all in the design! Greenbelt, MD 20770 | picnic.mat.net: FreeBSD/i386 (301) 220-2114 | jaunt.mat.net : FreeBSD/Alpha ---------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Wed Sep 15 15: 5:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (border.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4808F14F86 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 15:05:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <40325>; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 08:02:53 +1000 Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 08:05:01 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: ports/13729: strip(1) exits with an error on script file - causes severe portability problems In-reply-to: To: chuckr@picnic.mat.net Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <99Sep16.080253est.40325@border.alcanet.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 14 Sep 1999 02:39:23 +1000, Chuck Robey wrote: (Judging by the headers, this item spent a couple fo days getting from Chuck to hub). >This kind of thing, where there is no bug ... where the subject is a >request for a new feature, isn't this kind of thing the wrong way for >folks to be using the trouble reporting system? I don't think so. send-pr(1) allows the following classes: >Class: <[ sw-bug | doc-bug | change-request ] (one line)> And we have no other tracking mechanism for users' change requests. There are frequent requests on the general mailing lists to send-pr things so they don't get lost. It also allows non-committers (such as myself) to formally submit new features. > It seems to me that allowing >such use of gnats makes it miserably hard for folks to close some PRs. I agree that mis-classifying feature requests as bugs (which Patrick has done) causes problems, but this should be handled via a mechanism to re-classify the PR. I don't see a problem with having a large number of `new feature requests' outstanding - as long as they can be identified as such. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Sep 16 0:14:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de (jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de [132.176.7.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B58F014BDA for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 00:14:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfh@jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de) Received: (from jfh@localhost) by jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA01189; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:14:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jfh) To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: pnp with onboard isa sound chip CMI8330 and pcm0 From: Fritz Heinrichmeyer Date: 16 Sep 1999 09:14:32 +0200 Message-ID: Lines: 33 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070096 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.96) XEmacs/21.2 (Shinjuku) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i gave "current" a try and had no more sound as the pnp configuration was gone. Yesterday night at home i did the following to have it working again: (The sound-chip has the vendor_id 0x0100a90d. It is SB16 and MSS compatible and as far as i understand it now THAT is the problem. It switches to sb/mss when attached at the usual ports for the mentioned cards. Btw. there are still a lot of boxes without the possibility to configure pnp-cards in the bios out there .. :-( ) Anyway, there was no sound, so i moved the code case 0x01000000: if (vend_id == 0x0100a90d) s = "CMI8330"; break; from static int pnpmss_probe(device_t dev) in /usr/src/sys/dev/pcm/isa/mss.c to static int sbpnp_probe(device_t dev) in /usr/src/sys/dev/pcm/isa/sb.c and now i have sb-16 sound again. I changed case 0x01000000 to case 0x01000002 or 0x01000003 as the sb compatible configuration came as the third/fourth entry in the pnp database of the card (i forgot the detail, sorry). -- Fritz Heinrichmeyer mailto:fritz.heinrichmeyer@fernuni-hagen.de FernUniversitaet Hagen, LG ES, 58084 Hagen (Germany) tel:+49 2331/987-1166 fax:987-355 http://ES-i2.fernuni-hagen.de/~jfh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Sep 16 9:10:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from users.anet-stl.com (users.anet-stl.com [209.145.150.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0328714E1C for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:10:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doogie@anet-stl.com) Received: from earth.anet-stl.com (earth.anet-stl.com [209.83.128.12]) by users.anet-stl.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA36589 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:10:42 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:10:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Young To: current@freebsd.org Subject: 3Com Megahertz 574B patches Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Here is a patch that gets my 3Com Megahertz 574B ethernet PC-card working. I'd submit it as a PR, but I'm not at all sure I'm doing the right thing to detect it. The gist of the patch: 1) Reworked the probe routine to avoid having to set a flag to find my card, mostly on account of I couldn't figure out how to set the flag. This is the "I'm probably doing this wrong" part. 2) Addition of the 574B's product ID. 3) Output of some more useful info when booting verbosely. Jason Young accessUS Chief Network Engineer *** /home/doogie/if_ep.c Tue Sep 14 11:22:12 1999 --- if_ep.c Tue Sep 14 11:29:13 1999 *************** *** 162,171 **** --- 162,172 ---- */ static int ep_pccard_init __P((struct pccard_devinfo *)); static int ep_pccard_attach __P((struct pccard_devinfo *)); static void ep_unload __P((struct pccard_devinfo *)); static int card_intr __P((struct pccard_devinfo *)); + static int ep_pccard_identify (struct ep_board *epb, int unit); PCCARD_MODULE(ep, ep_pccard_init, ep_unload, card_intr, 0, net_imask); /* * Initialize the device - called from Slot manager. *************** *** 189,232 **** } /* get_e() requires these. */ sc->ep_io_addr = is->id_iobase; sc->unit = is->id_unit; - epb->cmd_off = 0; - if (is->id_flags & EP_FLAGS_100TX) - epb->cmd_off = 2; - epb->epb_addr = is->id_iobase; epb->epb_used = 1; - epb->prod_id = get_e(sc, EEPROM_PROD_ID); - epb->mii_trans = 0; ! /* product id */ ! switch (epb->prod_id) { ! case 0x6055: /* 3C556 */ ! case 0x4057: /* 3C574 */ ! epb->mii_trans = 1; ! break; ! case 0x9058: /* 3C589 */ ! break; ! default: ! printf("ep%d: failed to come ready.\n", is->id_unit); ! return (ENXIO); } epb->res_cfg = get_e(sc, EEPROM_RESOURCE_CFG); ! for (i = 0; i < 3; i++) sc->epb->eth_addr[i] = get_e(sc, EEPROM_NODE_ADDR_0 + i); if (ep_pccard_attach(devi) == 0) return (ENXIO); sc->arpcom.ac_if.if_snd.ifq_maxlen = ifqmaxlen; return (0); } static int ep_pccard_attach(devi) struct pccard_devinfo *devi; { struct isa_device *is = &devi->isahd; struct ep_softc *sc = ep_softc[is->id_unit]; --- 190,265 ---- } /* get_e() requires these. */ sc->ep_io_addr = is->id_iobase; sc->unit = is->id_unit; epb->epb_addr = is->id_iobase; epb->epb_used = 1; ! /* ! * XXX - Certain (newer?) 3Com cards need epb->cmd_off == 2. Sadly, ! * you need to have a correct cmd_off in order to identify the card. ! * So we have to hit it with both and cross our virtual fingers. There's ! * got to be a better way to do this. jyoung@accessus.net 09/11/1999 ! */ ! ! epb->cmd_off = 0; ! epb->prod_id = get_e(sc, EEPROM_PROD_ID); ! if (bootverbose) printf("ep%d: Pass 1 of 2 detection failed (nonfatal)\n", is->id_unit); ! if (!ep_pccard_identify(epb, is->id_unit)) { ! epb->cmd_off = 2; ! epb->prod_id = get_e(sc, EEPROM_PROD_ID); ! if (!ep_pccard_identify(epb, is->id_unit)) { ! if (bootverbose) printf("ep%d: Pass 2 of 2 detection failed (fatal!)\n", is->id_unit); ! printf("ep%d: Unit failed to come ready or product ID unknown! (id 0x%x)\n", is->id_unit, epb->prod_id); ! return (ENXIO); ! } } epb->res_cfg = get_e(sc, EEPROM_RESOURCE_CFG); ! for (i = 0; i < 3; i++) sc->epb->eth_addr[i] = get_e(sc, EEPROM_NODE_ADDR_0 + i); if (ep_pccard_attach(devi) == 0) return (ENXIO); sc->arpcom.ac_if.if_snd.ifq_maxlen = ifqmaxlen; return (0); } static int + ep_pccard_identify(epb, unit) + struct ep_board *epb; + int unit; + { + /* Determine device type and associated MII capabilities */ + switch (epb->prod_id) { + case 0x6055: /* 3C556 */ + if (bootverbose) printf("ep%d: 3Com 3C556\n", unit); + epb->mii_trans = 1; + return (1); + break; /* NOTREACHED */ + case 0x4057: /* 3C574 */ + if (bootverbose) printf("ep%d: 3Com 3C574\n", unit); + epb->mii_trans = 1; + return (1); + break; /* NOTREACHED */ + case 0x4b57: /* 3C574B */ + if (bootverbose) printf("ep%d: 3Com 3C574B, Megahertz 3CCFE574BT or Fast Etherlink 3C574-TX\n", unit); + epb->mii_trans = 1; + return (1); + break; /* NOTREACHED */ + case 0x9058: /* 3C589 */ + if (bootverbose) printf("ep%d: 3Com Etherlink III 3C589[B/C/D]\n", unit); + epb->mii_trans = 0; + return (1); + break; /* NOTREACHED */ + } + return (0); + } + + static int ep_pccard_attach(devi) struct pccard_devinfo *devi; { struct isa_device *is = &devi->isahd; struct ep_softc *sc = ep_softc[is->id_unit]; *************** *** 239,249 **** } if (config & IS_UTP) { sc->ep_connectors |= UTP; } if (!(sc->ep_connectors & 7)) ! printf("ep%d: No connectors or MII.\n", is->id_unit); sc->ep_connector = inw(BASE + EP_W0_ADDRESS_CFG) >> ACF_CONNECTOR_BITS; /* ROM size = 0, ROM base = 0 */ /* For now, ignore AUTO SELECT feature of 3C589B and later. */ outw(BASE + EP_W0_ADDRESS_CFG, get_e(sc, EEPROM_ADDR_CFG) & 0xc000); --- 272,284 ---- } if (config & IS_UTP) { sc->ep_connectors |= UTP; } if (!(sc->ep_connectors & 7)) ! /* (Apparently) non-fatal */ ! if(bootverbose) printf("ep%d: No connectors or MII.\n", is->id_unit); ! sc->ep_connector = inw(BASE + EP_W0_ADDRESS_CFG) >> ACF_CONNECTOR_BITS; /* ROM size = 0, ROM base = 0 */ /* For now, ignore AUTO SELECT feature of 3C589B and later. */ outw(BASE + EP_W0_ADDRESS_CFG, get_e(sc, EEPROM_ADDR_CFG) & 0xc000); *************** *** 253,263 **** outw(BASE + EP_W0_PRODUCT_ID, sc->epb->prod_id); if (sc->epb->mii_trans) { /* ! * turn on the MII tranceiver */ GO_WINDOW(3); outw(BASE + EP_W3_OPTIONS, 0x8040); DELAY(1000); outw(BASE + EP_W3_OPTIONS, 0xc040); --- 288,298 ---- outw(BASE + EP_W0_PRODUCT_ID, sc->epb->prod_id); if (sc->epb->mii_trans) { /* ! * turn on the MII transciever */ GO_WINDOW(3); outw(BASE + EP_W3_OPTIONS, 0x8040); DELAY(1000); outw(BASE + EP_W3_OPTIONS, 0xc040); To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Sep 16 11: 0:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from out0.mx.skynet.be (out0.mx.skynet.be [195.238.2.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D9A152A5 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:00:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by out0.mx.skynet.be (8.9.3/odie-relay-v1.0) with ESMTP id UAA05790 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:00:18 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@foxbert.skynet.be Message-Id: Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:00:07 +0200 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org From: Brad Knowles Subject: NetApp PostMark ported to FreeBSD? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Folks, I've searched the web (via several engines) and DejaNews, but unfortunately the FreeBSD.org website appears to be unreachable (for me, at least) at the moment, so I can't search the web pages or the mailing list archives. I'm also not sure that this is the correct place to be asking this question, so any assistance or advice you can provide in this area would be appreciated. Anyway, I was going through Nework Appliance's website, and ran across this benchmark program they had created (see ) to do large numbers of filesystem-level tests (creating randomly sized files, directories with randomly distributed numbers of files and subdirectories, etc...) and some pretty extensive tests that they ran on this dataset. It looks to me to be a much better OS/filesystem-level benchmark than bonnie, so I was interested in using it to further extend the low-level raw disk device testing that I'm going to be doing with rawio on various configurations of vinum logical volumes, as well as ccd and whatever other hardware caching RAID controllers I can lay my hands on. Unfortunately, the source code no longer seems to be available from their web site. Anybody know if this ever got ported to FreeBSD? Or if perhaps there are comparable types of OS/flesystem-level tests that do run under FreeBSD? Thanks! -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ____________________________________________________________________ |o| Brad Knowles, Belgacom Skynet NV/SA |o| |o| Systems Architect, News & FTP Admin Rue Col. Bourg, 124 |o| |o| Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.11.11/12.49 B-1140 Brussels |o| |o| http://www.skynet.be Belgium |o| \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Unix is like a wigwam -- no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside. Unix is very user-friendly. It's just picky who its friends are. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Sep 16 12:18:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from verdi.nethelp.no (verdi.nethelp.no [158.36.41.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ABE8514D61 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:18:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sthaug@nethelp.no) Received: (qmail 49134 invoked by uid 1001); 16 Sep 1999 19:18:47 +0000 (GMT) To: blk@skynet.be Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NetApp PostMark ported to FreeBSD? From: sthaug@nethelp.no In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:00:07 +0200" References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05+ on Emacs 19.34.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:18:47 +0200 Message-ID: <49132.937509527@verdi.nethelp.no> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Anyway, I was going through Nework Appliance's website, and ran > across this benchmark program they had created (see > ) to do large numbers > of filesystem-level tests (creating randomly sized files, directories > with randomly distributed numbers of files and subdirectories, > etc...) and some pretty extensive tests that they ran on this dataset. ... > Unfortunately, the source code no longer seems to be available > from their web site. Anybody know if this ever got ported to > FreeBSD? Or if perhaps there are comparable types of > OS/flesystem-level tests that do run under FreeBSD? I asked on the Netapp list (toasters@mathworks.com), and received a copy of postmark-1.01. Note that this is *not* the latest version (which is 1.11, according to the Netapp web site), but at least it should give you an idea of what the code is like. The 1.01 source is now available from ftp://ftp.nethelp.no/pub/tmp/postmark-1.01.c The license looks reasonable. I'll see if I can get some more help to dig up 1.11. Stay tuned. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Sep 16 13: 9:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from verdi.nethelp.no (verdi.nethelp.no [158.36.41.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 951A31500E for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 13:09:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sthaug@nethelp.no) Received: (qmail 52162 invoked by uid 1001); 16 Sep 1999 20:09:40 +0000 (GMT) To: blk@skynet.be Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NetApp PostMark ported to FreeBSD? From: sthaug@nethelp.no In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:18:47 +0200" References: <49132.937509527@verdi.nethelp.no> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05+ on Emacs 19.34.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 22:09:40 +0200 Message-ID: <52160.937512580@verdi.nethelp.no> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I asked on the Netapp list (toasters@mathworks.com), and received a copy > of postmark-1.01. Note that this is *not* the latest version (which is > 1.11, according to the Netapp web site), but at least it should give you > an idea of what the code is like. The 1.01 source is now available from > > ftp://ftp.nethelp.no/pub/tmp/postmark-1.01.c Just received an email message that 1.11 is available at http://www.taronga.com/~nick/files/postmark-1.11.c.gz Now also at ftp://ftp.nethelp.no/pub/tmp/postmark-1.11.c.gz Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Sep 16 13:50:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nostrum.com (mail.nostrum.com [206.28.8.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C40914BCA for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 13:50:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pckizer@nostrum.com) Received: (from pckizer@localhost) by mail.nostrum.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) id PAA23211; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:49:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199909162049.PAA23211@mail.nostrum.com> From: Philip Kizer To: sthaug@nethelp.no Cc: blk@skynet.be, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NetApp PostMark ported to FreeBSD? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Sep 1999 22:09:40 +0200." <52160.937512580@verdi.nethelp.no> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:49:58 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG sthaug@nethelp.no wrote: >Just received an email message that 1.11 is available at > http://www.taronga.com/~nick/files/postmark-1.11.c.gz >Now also at > ftp://ftp.nethelp.no/pub/tmp/postmark-1.11.c.gz If you leave off the last path component on the netapp site, you get an index that shows it to be: http://www.netapp.com/ftp/postmark-1_11_c.gz -philip -- AKA: Philip Kizer Texas A&M CIS Operating Systems Group, Unix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Sep 16 15:25:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from out1.mx.skynet.be (out1.mx.skynet.be [195.238.2.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30CA11576D for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:25:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.23.176] (dialup176.brussels2.skynet.be [195.238.23.176]) by out1.mx.skynet.be (8.9.3/odie-relay-v1.0) with ESMTP id AAA27893; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 00:25:38 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@foxbert.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199909162049.PAA23211@mail.nostrum.com> References: <199909162049.PAA23211@mail.nostrum.com> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 23:52:58 +0200 To: Philip Kizer , sthaug@nethelp.no From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: NetApp PostMark ported to FreeBSD? Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 3:49 PM -0500 1999/9/16, Philip Kizer wrote: > If you leave off the last path component on the netapp site, you get an > index that shows it to be: > > http://www.netapp.com/ftp/postmark-1_11_c.gz Right. I thought I had tried that and had a 404 error. Maybe I missed something? -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ____________________________________________________________________ |o| Brad Knowles, Belgacom Skynet NV/SA |o| |o| Systems Architect, News & FTP Admin Rue Col. Bourg, 124 |o| |o| Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.11.11/12.49 B-1140 Brussels |o| |o| http://www.skynet.be Belgium |o| \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Unix is like a wigwam -- no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside. Unix is very user-friendly. It's just picky who its friends are. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Thu Sep 16 15:25:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from out1.mx.skynet.be (out1.mx.skynet.be [195.238.2.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1292B15776 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:25:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.23.176] (dialup176.brussels2.skynet.be [195.238.23.176]) by out1.mx.skynet.be (8.9.3/odie-relay-v1.0) with ESMTP id AAA27901; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 00:25:43 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@foxbert.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <52160.937512580@verdi.nethelp.no> References: <49132.937509527@verdi.nethelp.no> <52160.937512580@verdi.nethelp.no> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 23:53:32 +0200 To: sthaug@nethelp.no From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: NetApp PostMark ported to FreeBSD? Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:09 PM +0200 1999/9/16, sthaug@nethelp.no wrote: > Just received an email message that 1.11 is available at > > http://www.taronga.com/~nick/files/postmark-1.11.c.gz > > Now also at > > ftp://ftp.nethelp.no/pub/tmp/postmark-1.11.c.gz Excellent! Thanks! Now I can get to work on whether it will compile and run under FreeBSD.... ;-) -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ____________________________________________________________________ |o| Brad Knowles, Belgacom Skynet NV/SA |o| |o| Systems Architect, News & FTP Admin Rue Col. Bourg, 124 |o| |o| Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.11.11/12.49 B-1140 Brussels |o| |o| http://www.skynet.be Belgium |o| \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Unix is like a wigwam -- no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside. Unix is very user-friendly. It's just picky who its friends are. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 0:15: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua (ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua [212.42.68.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4F514D65 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 00:14:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sobomax@altavista.net) Received: from vega. (dialup2-57.iptelecom.net.ua [212.42.74.121]) by ipt2.iptelecom.net.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02098; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:17:44 +0300 (EEST) Received: from altavista.net (big_brother [192.168.1.1]) by vega. (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA30315; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:14:22 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from sobomax@altavista.net) Message-ID: <37E1EA4D.8DF1769E@altavista.net> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:14:21 +0300 From: Maxim Sobolev Reply-To: sobomax@altavista.net Organization: Vega International Capital X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: ru,uk,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brad Knowles Cc: Philip Kizer , sthaug@nethelp.no, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NetApp PostMark ported to FreeBSD? References: <199909162049.PAA23211@mail.nostrum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brad Knowles wrote: > At 3:49 PM -0500 1999/9/16, Philip Kizer wrote: > > > If you leave off the last path component on the netapp site, you get an > > index that shows it to be: > > > > http://www.netapp.com/ftp/postmark-1_11_c.gz > > Right. I thought I had tried that and had a 404 error. Maybe I > missed something? Try http://www.netapp.com/ftp/postmark-1_11.c -- "We believe in the Power and the Might!" (Manowar, 1996) ---------------------------------------- Maxim V. Sobolev, Financial Analyst, Vega International Capital Phone: +380-(44)-246-6396 Fax: +380-(44)-220-8715 E-mail: sobomax@altavista.net ICQ: #42290709 ---------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 2:25: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from out1.mx.skynet.be (out1.mx.skynet.be [195.238.2.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51267153E9 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 02:25:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by out1.mx.skynet.be (8.9.3/odie-relay-v1.0) with ESMTP id LAA09843 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:25:02 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@foxbert.skynet.be Message-Id: Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:24:41 +0200 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org From: Brad Knowles Subject: More benchmarking stuff... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Folks, In addition to the vinum vs. DPT SmartRAID IV benchmarking that I had done, I've also started doing filesystem/OS-level benchmarking with a program called "postmark" that Network Appliance wrote to show off the performance of their NetApp Filers. See for the paper from NetApp that shows the performance of their filers against various other systems, and it also includes a link to the page where you can get the source code. The source code compiled and is running just fine for me under FreeBSD 3.3-RC. Not a single hitch. Their best results on an F630 with 1000 files and 50,000 transactions were 253 transactions per second, 799.91 KBytes/sec read, and 817.89 KBytes/sec written. I just ran this same test on an old PPro 200Mhz system with 128MB of RAM and softupdates on a Western Digital Enterprise 4.5GB hard drive. I got 282 transactions per second, 869.09 KBytes read per second, and 888.63 KBytes written per second! This ancient machine with a single slow hard drive, but running FreeBSD 3.3-RC with softupdates beats their *expensive* NFS file server!!! I'm going to run this on some other machines, including the same machine and disk without softupdates, FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE on a dual-processor PIII @ 450Mhz without softupdates on both the single Western Digital boot disk and on the external DPT SmartRAID IV striped array of four IBM 10kRPM UltraStar 9LZX drives, a single processor Pentium III @ 450Mhz running Linux 2.9 on the internal hard drive and on the external DPT SmartRAID V controlled striped array of five Quantum Fireball 7200RPM 9GB drives (both mounted async and sync), and any other machines I can get my hands on. I think this is going to be fun! -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ____________________________________________________________________ |o| Brad Knowles, Belgacom Skynet NV/SA |o| |o| Systems Architect, News & FTP Admin Rue Col. Bourg, 124 |o| |o| Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.11.11/12.49 B-1140 Brussels |o| |o| http://www.skynet.be Belgium |o| \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Unix is like a wigwam -- no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside. Unix is very user-friendly. It's just picky who its friends are. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 4:43: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mpp.pro-ns.net (pppdsle45.mpls.uswest.net [216.160.23.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE671541F for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 04:43:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@mpp.pro-ns.net) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by mpp.pro-ns.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA00356 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 06:43:45 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mpp) From: Mike Pritchard Message-Id: <199909171143.GAA00356@mpp.pro-ns.net> Subject: Weird syscons keyboard behaviour To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 06:43:45 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've noticed some odd syscons keyboard behaviour over the past month or so. Sometimes I get a vty that outputs PC graphics characters for all of my input. This is always at a "login:" prompt. I think I can duplicate this by typing a bunch of garbage at a login prompt, but I don't feel like trying to test it right now and have to reboot my main machine. I just saw this again after a clean boot with a 24 hour old kernel. (built 07:00 a.m. 9/16/99 CST from a few hour old CVSup). The boot went fine, but when I started typing at the login prompt, all I got was garbage. I couldn't switch vty's or anything. I just gave up and hit the big red button. After the reboot, everything was fine. I think this might be some kind of timing problem. I was starting to type in my username right away when I saw the boot was finishing, and if I recall the past incidents correctly, I may have been doing the same thing. I've seen this probably 4 or 5 times in the past month, maybe 6 weeks. Anyone have any ideas what is going on? This is a Compaq AMD K6-2/400 machine. PS/2 style keyboard input to the motherboard. I'll be glad to supply any further details. -Mike -- Mike Pritchard mpp@FreeBSD.org or mpp@mpp.pro-ns.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 5: 3:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from out0.mx.skynet.be (out0.mx.skynet.be [195.238.2.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EED5A153FF for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 05:03:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by out0.mx.skynet.be (8.9.3/odie-relay-v1.0) with ESMTP id OAA28639 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:03:28 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@foxbert.skynet.be Message-Id: Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:03:08 +0200 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: More benchmarking stuff... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:24 AM +0200 1999/9/17, Brad Knowles wrote: > I just ran this same test on an old PPro 200Mhz system > with 128MB of RAM and softupdates on a Western Digital > Enterprise 4.5GB hard drive. I got 282 transactions per > second, 869.09 KBytes read per second, and 888.63 KBytes > written per second! This ancient machine with a single > slow hard drive, but running FreeBSD 3.3-RC with > softupdates beats their *expensive* NFS file server!!! Sadly, when I go to the second set of tests (20,000 files and 50,000 transactions), my performance goes into the crapper. I know that softupdates trades memory for speed, and I guess this PPro 200 w/ 128MB RAM just doesn't have enough memory to keep up. For this stage, I now get: Transactions per second: 33 KBytes Read per second: 79.66 KBytes Written per second: 144.31 The third stage of testing (20,000 files and 100,000 transactions is now underway. -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ____________________________________________________________________ |o| Brad Knowles, Belgacom Skynet NV/SA |o| |o| Systems Architect, News & FTP Admin Rue Col. Bourg, 124 |o| |o| Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.11.11/12.49 B-1140 Brussels |o| |o| http://www.skynet.be Belgium |o| \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Unix is like a wigwam -- no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside. Unix is very user-friendly. It's just picky who its friends are. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 5: 7:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from pcnet1.pcnet.com (pcnet1.pcnet.com [204.213.232.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766D315812; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 05:07:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eischen@vigrid.com) Received: (from eischen@localhost) by pcnet1.pcnet.com (8.8.7/PCNet) id IAA16879; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:06:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:06:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Eischen Message-Id: <199909171206.IAA16879@pcnet1.pcnet.com> To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, mpp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Weird syscons keyboard behaviour Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Pritchard wrote: > I've noticed some odd syscons keyboard behaviour over the past > month or so. Sometimes I get a vty that outputs PC graphics characters > for all of my input. This is always at a "login:" prompt. I think > I can duplicate this by typing a bunch of garbage at a login prompt, > but I don't feel like trying to test it right now and have to > reboot my main machine. > > I just saw this again after a clean boot with a 24 hour old kernel. > (built 07:00 a.m. 9/16/99 CST from a few hour old CVSup). > The boot went fine, but when I started typing at the login prompt, > all I got was garbage. I couldn't switch vty's or anything. > I just gave up and hit the big red button. After the reboot, > everything was fine. > > I think this might be some kind of timing problem. I was starting > to type in my username right away when I saw the boot was finishing, > and if I recall the past incidents correctly, I may have been > doing the same thing. > > I've seen this probably 4 or 5 times in the past month, maybe > 6 weeks. Anyone have any ideas what is going on? Aye, I've seen it infrequently also. I've not spent any time trying to recreate the problem because it happens so infrequently. The system I've seen it on is an Intel 200MHz Pentium notebook (ChemUSA) also with PS/2 style input. I seem to recall seeing it for more than a month, maybe the last few (3 or 4) months. Dan Eischen eischen@vigrid.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 5:38: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9443914A0B; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 05:37:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:e6KwvFFPBowbRE35ziqzGnem11R3xWFJ@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7Wpl2) with ESMTP id VAA21270; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 21:37:30 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id VAA23111; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 21:41:49 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199909171241.VAA23111@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: Mike Pritchard Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: Weird syscons keyboard behaviour In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 17 Sep 1999 06:43:45 EST." <199909171143.GAA00356@mpp.pro-ns.net> References: <199909171143.GAA00356@mpp.pro-ns.net> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 21:41:49 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >I've noticed some odd syscons keyboard behaviour over the past >month or so. Sometimes I get a vty that outputs PC graphics characters >for all of my input. This is always at a "login:" prompt. I think >I can duplicate this by typing a bunch of garbage at a login prompt, >but I don't feel like trying to test it right now and have to >reboot my main machine. [...] >I think this might be some kind of timing problem. I was starting >to type in my username right away when I saw the boot was finishing, >and if I recall the past incidents correctly, I may have been >doing the same thing. > >I've seen this probably 4 or 5 times in the past month, maybe >6 weeks. Anyone have any ideas what is going on? It appears that if you hit the keyboard before (at the boot loader prompt or during the kernel is probing devices) or while the keyboard driver is being initialized, you may see the problem. The keyboard driver does try to flush keyboard input before it manipulates the keyboard controller and the keyboard, but apparently it is sometimes confused. # One possible explanation for this failure of keyboard flushing is # that the clock or timer calibration is not correctly done and I/O # delay is not working properly. Well, I am not sure, though... I have no idea why this is cropping up now, rather than before... The AT keyboard driver has unchanged for some time. Yes, there has been some commits in the past couple of months, but they don't change the basic operation of the driver. Would you please try the following patch for /sys/dev/kbd/atkbd.c and see how it fares? Kazu Index: atkbd.c =================================================================== RCS file: /src/CVS/src/sys/dev/kbd/atkbd.c,v retrieving revision 1.13 diff -u -r1.13 atkbd.c --- atkbd.c 1999/08/15 06:06:14 1.13 +++ atkbd.c 1999/08/19 12:08:22 @@ -1154,7 +1189,7 @@ } /* save the current controller command byte */ - empty_both_buffers(kbdc, 10); + empty_both_buffers(kbdc, 200); c = get_controller_command_byte(kbdc); if (c == -1) { /* CONTROLLER ERROR */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 5:46: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (freebsd.dk [212.242.42.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CC0214A0E; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 05:45:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA77092; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:45:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sos) From: Soren Schmidt Message-Id: <199909171245.OAA77092@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: Weird syscons keyboard behaviour In-Reply-To: <199909171241.VAA23111@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> from Kazutaka YOKOTA at "Sep 17, 1999 09:41:49 pm" To: yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (Kazutaka YOKOTA) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:45:08 +0200 (CEST) Cc: mpp@FreeBSD.ORG (Mike Pritchard), freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems Kazutaka YOKOTA wrote: > > It appears that if you hit the keyboard before (at the boot loader > prompt or during the kernel is probing devices) or while the keyboard > driver is being initialized, you may see the problem. Hmm I've seen the problem where on "loose" the input at the loader prompt but it has always come back when syscons probes the keyboard. But I have also seen the other problem exactly two times, and the keyboard hasn't been touched at all those two times... I had written it of as a fluke in my screen/keyboard/mouse switchbox... -Sxren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 5:55:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from p.funk.org (node1484.a2000.nl [62.108.20.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F3214A08 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 05:55:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alexlh@p.funk.org) Received: (from alexlh@localhost) by p.funk.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA00674; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:55:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alexlh) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:55:48 +0200 From: Alex Le Heux To: Brad Knowles Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: More benchmarking stuff... Message-ID: <19990917145548.A642@funk.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: ; from Brad Knowles on Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 11:24:41AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 11:24:41AM +0200, Brad Knowles wrote: > > Their best results on an F630 with 1000 files and 50,000 > transactions were 253 transactions per second, 799.91 KBytes/sec > read, and 817.89 KBytes/sec written. > > I just ran this same test on an old PPro 200Mhz system with 128MB > of RAM and softupdates on a Western Digital Enterprise 4.5GB hard > drive. I got 282 transactions per second, 869.09 KBytes read per > second, and 888.63 KBytes written per second! This ancient machine > with a single slow hard drive, but running FreeBSD 3.3-RC with > softupdates beats their *expensive* NFS file server!!! My results running postmark on a PII-450 with 196MB RAM and an IBM Deskstar DJNA 352030 running -current as of a few weeks ago are: 1000/50000 UFS+softupdates MFS NFS tr/s 218 1562 100 read kb/s 699.05 4870 321.56 write kb/s 714.77 4980 328.79 The NFS server is a PII-233 with 32MB RAM (I know...) and a Maxtor 91728D8 IDE disk running 3.2R. It seems strange that the 'old PPro 200' would have better results than my PII-450, but there's probably some optimizations that I haven't done yet. Alex -- +--------------------------------+-------------------+ | SMTP: | E-Gold: 101979 | | ICBM: N52 22.64'6 E4 51.54'1 | PGP: 0x1d512a3f | +--------------------------------+-------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 5:56: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from solaris.matti.ee (solaris.matti.ee [194.126.98.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92B6414A0E; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 05:55:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vallo@matti.ee) Received: from myhakas.matti.ee (myhakas.matti.ee [194.126.114.87]) by solaris.matti.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12837; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:55:36 +0300 (EET DST) Received: by myhakas.matti.ee (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CDB6A88; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:55:38 +0300 (EEST) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:55:38 +0300 From: Vallo Kallaste To: Soren Schmidt Cc: Kazutaka YOKOTA , Mike Pritchard , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Weird syscons keyboard behaviour Message-ID: <19990917155538.A25086@myhakas.matti.ee> Reply-To: vallo@matti.ee References: <199909171241.VAA23111@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> <199909171245.OAA77092@freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: <199909171245.OAA77092@freebsd.dk>; from Soren Schmidt on Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 02:45:08PM +0200 Organization: =?iso-8859-1?Q?AS_Matti_B=FCrootehnika?= Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 02:45:08PM +0200, Soren Schmidt wrote: > > prompt or during the kernel is probing devices) or while the keyboard > > driver is being initialized, you may see the problem. > > Hmm I've seen the problem where on "loose" the input at the loader prompt > but it has always come back when syscons probes the keyboard. > > But I have also seen the other problem exactly two times, and the > keyboard hasn't been touched at all those two times... > I had written it of as a fluke in my screen/keyboard/mouse switchbox... I always get such behavior when I touch keyboard just before the autoboot begins countdown. It's reliably repeatable, but nothing I care much about. -- Vallo Kallaste vallo@matti.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 6:15:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (oe8.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.240.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 829D014A08 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 06:15:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from claude87@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 33997 invoked by uid 65534); 17 Sep 1999 13:15:22 -0000 Message-ID: <19990917131522.33996.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [206.172.254.103] Reply-To: "Claude Guay" From: "Claude Guay" To: Subject: Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:13:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF00EC.DE0C67A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF00EC.DE0C67A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF00EC.DE0C67A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF00EC.DE0C67A0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 6:23: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from oskar.nanoteq.co.za (oskar.nanoteq.co.za [196.37.91.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B77714A08; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 06:22:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rbezuide@oskar.nanoteq.co.za) Received: (from rbezuide@localhost) by oskar.nanoteq.co.za (8.9.0/8.9.0) id PAA21262; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:23:19 +0200 (SAT) From: Reinier Bezuidenhout Message-Id: <199909171323.PAA21262@oskar.nanoteq.co.za> Subject: Re: Weird syscons keyboard behaviour In-Reply-To: <199909171245.OAA77092@freebsd.dk> from Soren Schmidt at "Sep 17, 99 02:45:08 pm" To: sos@freebsd.dk (Soren Schmidt) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:23:15 +0200 (SAT) Cc: yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp, mpp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > It seems Kazutaka YOKOTA wrote: > > > > It appears that if you hit the keyboard before (at the boot loader > > prompt or during the kernel is probing devices) or while the keyboard > > driver is being initialized, you may see the problem. > > Hmm I've seen the problem where on "loose" the input at the loader prompt > but it has always come back when syscons probes the keyboard. > > But I have also seen the other problem exactly two times, and the > keyboard hasn't been touched at all those two times... > I had written it of as a fluke in my screen/keyboard/mouse switchbox... > I've sometimes experienced the problem where my keyboard goes crazy .. e.g. when typing 'r' it types two "up-arrowa" on the screen. It's only weird characters ... I then have to press the reset button, because ctrl-alt-del doesn't work and plugging the keyboard out and in doesn't help. I've also thought it's something of the Itel 440-BX motherboard .. Reinier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 6:34: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from out1.mx.skynet.be (out1.mx.skynet.be [195.238.2.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D045614DC8 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 06:34:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by out1.mx.skynet.be (8.9.3/odie-relay-v1.0) with ESMTP id PAA16131 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:34:00 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@foxbert.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:33:31 +0200 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: More benchmarking stuff... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 2:03 PM +0200 1999/9/17, Brad Knowles wrote: > For this stage, I now get: > > Transactions per second: 33 > KBytes Read per second: 79.66 > KBytes Written per second: 144.31 For the third and final stage (20,000 files and 100,000 operations), I get the following results: Transactions per second: 38 KBytes Read per second: 102.84 KBytes Written per second: 142.15 I'll be doing these same tests on other machines and other configurations of similar machines, and will report the numbers as I can. If this sort of stuff should not be posted to the freebsd-current mailing list, I would appreciate someone letting me know now before I complete the process of making a complete and total fool of myself in the process. ;-) -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ____________________________________________________________________ |o| Brad Knowles, Belgacom Skynet NV/SA |o| |o| Systems Architect, News & FTP Admin Rue Col. Bourg, 124 |o| |o| Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.11.11/12.49 B-1140 Brussels |o| |o| http://www.skynet.be Belgium |o| \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Unix is like a wigwam -- no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside. Unix is very user-friendly. It's just picky who its friends are. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 7: 3: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com (gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com [207.113.159.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E7C154C9 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 07:03:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gdonl@tsc.tdk.com) Received: from sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com (root@sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com [192.168.241.191]) by gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA10217; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 07:02:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gdonl@tsc.tdk.com) Received: from salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com (salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com [192.168.241.194]) by sunrise.gv.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA11568; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 07:02:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gdonl@localhost) by salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id HAA23902; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 07:02:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Lewis Message-Id: <199909171402.HAA23902@salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 07:02:52 -0700 In-Reply-To: Brad Knowles "Re: More benchmarking stuff..." (Sep 17, 2:03pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 alpha(3) 7/19/95) To: Brad Knowles , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: More benchmarking stuff... Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sep 17, 2:03pm, Brad Knowles wrote: } Subject: Re: More benchmarking stuff... } } Sadly, when I go to the second set of tests (20,000 files and } 50,000 transactions), my performance goes into the crapper. I know } that softupdates trades memory for speed, and I guess this PPro 200 } w/ 128MB RAM just doesn't have enough memory to keep up. } } For this stage, I now get: } } Transactions per second: 33 } KBytes Read per second: 79.66 } KBytes Written per second: 144.31 I'd expect a NetApp to do a lot better than UFS on FreeBSD if there are large directories. Directory lookups in UFS require a sequential scan whereas the NetApp filesystem uses some sort of hashing scheme. Also FreeBSD only caches a limited number of directory blocks. This was discussed on -hackers in April. Search for the subject "Directories not VMIO cached at all!". Matt Dillon posted a patch to to better cache directories (at the possible expense of wasted RAM and which breaks NFS) in Message-ID <199904171844.LAA75452@apollo.backplane.com>. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 7:37:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from out0.mx.skynet.be (out0.mx.skynet.be [195.238.2.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8AE15017 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 07:36:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by out0.mx.skynet.be (8.9.3/odie-relay-v1.0) with ESMTP id QAA06765 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:36:53 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@foxbert.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:35:00 +0200 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: More benchmarking stuff... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 3:33 PM +0200 1999/9/17, Brad Knowles wrote: > For the third and final stage (20,000 files and 100,000 > operations), I get the following results: > > Transactions per second: 38 > KBytes Read per second: 102.84 > KBytes Written per second: 142.15 Running the first test again on a much more powerful system (Dell PowerEdge 1300 Pentium III @ 450Mhz w/ 1MB L2 cache and 1GB RAM, running Linux 2.9, and on the internal Quantum Viking-II hard drive mounted "defaults" (including async) on /var), I get: Transactions per second: 2380 MBytes Read per second: 7.31 MBytes Written per second: 7.47 This is on par with the kind of performance I'd expect to see on a similar machine running FreeBSD 3.x-STABLE and softupdates, but I don't know how it compares to -STABLE and standard Berkeley FFS. I'm running the second tests now. -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ____________________________________________________________________ |o| Brad Knowles, Belgacom Skynet NV/SA |o| |o| Systems Architect, News & FTP Admin Rue Col. Bourg, 124 |o| |o| Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.11.11/12.49 B-1140 Brussels |o| |o| http://www.skynet.be Belgium |o| \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Unix is like a wigwam -- no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside. Unix is very user-friendly. It's just picky who its friends are. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 8: 0:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from out0.mx.skynet.be (out0.mx.skynet.be [195.238.2.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E3ED1582E for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:00:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by out0.mx.skynet.be (8.9.3/odie-relay-v1.0) with ESMTP id RAA13308 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 17:00:25 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@foxbert.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:59:13 +0200 To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: More benchmarking stuff... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 4:35 PM +0200 1999/9/17, Brad Knowles wrote: > I'm running the second tests now. The second series of tests was *highly* educational. For the first time ever with postmark, I saw errors like this: Error: cannot open '34878' for writing Error: cannot open '34879' for writing .Error: Cannot delete '31484' .Error: cannot open '31483' for reading Error: Cannot delete '30648' .Error: cannot open '31483' for reading .Error: Cannot delete '30352' Done Deleting files...Error: Cannot delete '30352' Error: Cannot delete '30353' Error: Cannot delete '30648' Error: Cannot delete '31486' Error: Cannot delete '32103' I'm guessing that the async filesystem under Linux just couldn't keep up. I'm hoping that this hasn't permanently trashed that filesystem. ;-) I also noticed that system CPU usage was *much* higher under Linux than it was under FreeBSD. I saw peaks of 97% utilization in system time, and I'm going to re-run these tests under the bash "time" command to see if I can get some averages of system versus user mode usage, etc.... Anyway, the results I got were: Transactions per second: 97 KBytes Read per second: 230.58 KBytes Written per second: 418.22 The re-run of the second sequence with "time" is now underway. I've also got back initial results of running postmark on a similar Dell PowerEdge 1300, but this time one with two 450Mhz processors. Otherwise, it is configured pretty much identically, at least for the subsystems I'm testing so far. The filesystem is *not* mounted with softupdates. The results I got were: Transactions per second: 35 KBytes Read per second: 110.58 KBytes Written per second: 113.06 I'm re-running this command under bash "time" as well, and all future results to be reported will be likewise. I'm also going to go back and do the same for the tests I ran on the older PPro 200 machine with 128MB RAM. -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ____________________________________________________________________ |o| Brad Knowles, Belgacom Skynet NV/SA |o| |o| Systems Architect, News & FTP Admin Rue Col. Bourg, 124 |o| |o| Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.11.11/12.49 B-1140 Brussels |o| |o| http://www.skynet.be Belgium |o| \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Unix is like a wigwam -- no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside. Unix is very user-friendly. It's just picky who its friends are. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 8:17:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from out0.mx.skynet.be (out0.mx.skynet.be [195.238.2.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492911585D for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:17:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by out0.mx.skynet.be (8.9.3/odie-relay-v1.0) with ESMTP id RAA18135; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 17:17:23 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@foxbert.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199909171505.IAA57153@ix.netcom.com> References: <199909171505.IAA57153@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 17:16:53 +0200 To: Thomas Dean From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: More benchmarking stuff... Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 8:05 AM -0700 1999/9/17, Thomas Dean wrote: > These tests with softupdates do not appear to be a test of the disk > i/o system, but, a test of memory. > > Are the files deleted before they are actually written to disk? Good question. I don't know the answer. I know that the process is to create all the files first, then operate on them (including deletions and more creations), and then finally do a removal of all of them as quickly as possible at the end of the test. I'd be willing to guess a lot of files do get created and then deleted before the data ever gets written to disk. After all, postmark was written to simulate the kind of a load that a heavily-used mail system places on the machine, and that's precisely the sort of environment where something like softupdates or mounting filesystems async does tend to help the most. -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ____________________________________________________________________ |o| Brad Knowles, Belgacom Skynet NV/SA |o| |o| Systems Architect, News & FTP Admin Rue Col. Bourg, 124 |o| |o| Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.11.11/12.49 B-1140 Brussels |o| |o| http://www.skynet.be Belgium |o| \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Unix is like a wigwam -- no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside. Unix is very user-friendly. It's just picky who its friends are. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 8:27: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ayukawa.aus.org (ayukawa.aus.org [199.166.246.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C521C154F7 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:26:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lh@aus.org) Received: from PHOENIX.ZER0.NET (lh@ZER0.NET [199.166.246.189]) by ayukawa.aus.org (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA24522; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:26:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990917145548.A642@funk.org> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:26:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Luke To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: More benchmarking stuff... Cc: Brad Knowles Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > My results running postmark on a PII-450 with 196MB RAM and an IBM Deskstar > DJNA 352030 running -current as of a few weeks ago are: > 1000/50000 UFS+softupdates MFS NFS > > tr/s 218 1562 100 > read kb/s 699.05 4870 321.56 > write kb/s 714.77 4980 328.79 I tried it on my -current of 2 days ago: 1000/50000 on a UFS+softupdates K6-2/300 64MB seagate 9.1 7200 EIDE tr/s 126 read kb/s 406.01 write kb/s 415.14 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 8:46:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dan.emsphone.com (dan.emsphone.com [199.67.51.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E17115842 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:46:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@dan.emsphone.com) Received: (from dan@localhost) by dan.emsphone.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA55255; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:46:08 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dan) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:46:08 -0500 From: Dan Nelson To: Brad Knowles Cc: Thomas Dean , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: More benchmarking stuff... Message-ID: <19990917104608.A55059@dan.emsphone.com> References: <199909171505.IAA57153@ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre1i In-Reply-To: X-OS: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In the last episode (Sep 17), Brad Knowles said: > At 8:05 AM -0700 1999/9/17, Thomas Dean wrote: > > Are the files deleted before they are actually written to disk? > > Good question. I don't know the answer. I know that the > process is to create all the files first, then operate on them > (including deletions and more creations), and then finally do a > removal of all of them as quickly as possible at the end of the test. > > I'd be willing to guess a lot of files do get created and then > deleted before the data ever gets written to disk. After all, > postmark was written to simulate the kind of a load that a > heavily-used mail system places on the machine, and that's precisely > the sort of environment where something like softupdates or mounting > filesystems async does tend to help the most. Hmm. But when you're running a mail spool, you _want_ your files to get committed to disk, don't you? If you've got (guessing) 500 spool files sitting in unflushed disk caches and you reboot, those files are lost. Softupdated just guarantees that the disk will be in a stable state after a crash, not that all data written before the crash will be available. Don't NetApps do logging, so if the system crashes, the files are recovered from the log? -- Dan Nelson dnelson@emsphone.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 8:53:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D9614EF5 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:53:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA00580; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:53:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id IAA50913; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:53:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990916232849.35971@hydrogen.fircrest.net> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:53:10 -0700 (PDT) Organization: Polstra & Co., Inc. From: John Polstra To: John-Mark Gurney Subject: Re: An FS question perhaps... non blocking I/O. Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John-Mark Gurney wrote: > John Polstra scribbled this message on Sep 12: >> >> Just to avoid duplicated effort: I currently have work in progress >> on a "fslog" pseudo-device. It enables you to monitor a filesystem >> and receive notifications for all interesting changes to files and >> directories. This includes reads, writes, renames, file creations, >> unlinks, links, etc. -- anything that changes the stat(2) results >> for a file, or causes directory entries to be created, destroyed, or >> changed. The device itself is working, but so far I have implemented >> the support for only a few of the event types. It won't take much >> more work to finish it. > > ugh, why aren't you extending poll to work on files and directories to > get this info?? it would make MUCH more sense to extend poll to do this.. > > any specific reason why it wasn't done this way? Yes. Last time I checked, our CVS repository contained 50,000 files in 13,000 directories. Somehow the thought of a 63,000-element pollfd array leaves me cold. Sometimes you want to know about all changes in a whole tree of files. Poll isn't well-suited for that. John --- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up." -- Nora Ephron To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 8:56:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4374815513 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:56:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: from home.elischer.org (home.elischer.org [207.76.204.203]) by alpo.whistle.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA45556; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:55:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer X-Sender: julian@home.elischer.org To: Dan Nelson Cc: Brad Knowles , Thomas Dean , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: More benchmarking stuff... In-Reply-To: <19990917104608.A55059@dan.emsphone.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Sep 17), Brad Knowles said: > > At 8:05 AM -0700 1999/9/17, Thomas Dean wrote: > > > Are the files deleted before they are actually written to disk? > > > > Good question. I don't know the answer. I know that the > > process is to create all the files first, then operate on them > > (including deletions and more creations), and then finally do a > > removal of all of them as quickly as possible at the end of the test. > > > > I'd be willing to guess a lot of files do get created and then > > deleted before the data ever gets written to disk. After all, > > postmark was written to simulate the kind of a load that a > > heavily-used mail system places on the machine, and that's precisely > > the sort of environment where something like softupdates or mounting > > filesystems async does tend to help the most. > > Hmm. But when you're running a mail spool, you _want_ your files to > get committed to disk, don't you? If you've got (guessing) 500 spool > files sitting in unflushed disk caches and you reboot, those files are > lost. Softupdated just guarantees that the disk will be in a stable > state after a crash, not that all data written before the crash will be > available. > Soft updates guarantees that when an fsync() is done, it's on disk... > Don't NetApps do logging, so if the system crashes, the files are > recovered from the log? > > -- > Dan Nelson > dnelson@emsphone.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 9: 0:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com (pau-amma.whistle.com [207.76.205.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ABDF15504 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:00:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id JAA08613; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:00:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:00:26 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <199909171600.JAA08613@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: blk@skynet.be, dnelson@emsphone.com Subject: Re: More benchmarking stuff... Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, tomdean@ix.netcom.com In-Reply-To: <19990917104608.A55059@dan.emsphone.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:46:08 -0500 >From: Dan Nelson >Don't NetApps do logging, so if the system crashes, the files are >recovered from the log? It's my (ca. 4-year-ancient) recollection that the write requests are written to a split NVRAM buffer; when one half hits the high-water mark (or a timer pops, whichever happens first), the "active half" of the buffer is switched, and the half that had been written to has its entries committed to disk. So basically, yes -- the NetApp shouldn't lose data. (But "files" aren't written to the NVRAM; it's fairly raw write requests that get written.) Cheers, david -- David Wolfskill dhw@whistle.com UNIX System Administrator voice: (650) 577-7158 pager: (888) 347-0197 FAX: (650) 372-5915 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 9: 3:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2363B15504 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:03:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA03989; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 18:02:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: John Polstra Cc: John-Mark Gurney , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: An FS question perhaps... non blocking I/O. In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:53:10 PDT." Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 18:02:38 +0200 Message-ID: <3987.937584158@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , John Polstra writes: >> ugh, why aren't you extending poll to work on files and directories to >> get this info?? it would make MUCH more sense to extend poll to do this.. >> >> any specific reason why it wasn't done this way? > >Yes. Last time I checked, our CVS repository contained 50,000 files >in 13,000 directories. Somehow the thought of a 63,000-element pollfd >array leaves me cold. Sounds like something Bruce would do :-) -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 9: 4:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from out0.mx.skynet.be (out0.mx.skynet.be [195.238.2.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44C4C15858 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:04:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by out0.mx.skynet.be (8.9.3/odie-relay-v1.0) with ESMTP id SAA00987; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 18:04:13 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@foxbert.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990917104608.A55059@dan.emsphone.com> References: <199909171505.IAA57153@ix.netcom.com> <19990917104608.A55059@dan.emsphone.com> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 18:02:39 +0200 To: Dan Nelson From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: More benchmarking stuff... Cc: Thomas Dean , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:46 AM -0500 1999/9/17, Dan Nelson wrote: > Hmm. But when you're running a mail spool, you _want_ your files to > get committed to disk, don't you? True enough. RFC 1123 requires that you *not* lost mail messages for stupid reasons like fileservers crashing, etc.... You do want those things written to disk. > If you've got (guessing) 500 spool > files sitting in unflushed disk caches and you reboot, those files are > lost. Yup. They'd be gone. I guess my question would be how many messages in the spool that were in the process of being handled could be held in unflushed caches in memory? If that's only a few hundred files, and those few hundred files represent something like only a few seconds worth of mail, then just how literally are you going to take RFC 1123, and how much mail can a large operator "lose" before they are violating not only the "law" of RFC 1123, but also the spirit? These are tough, real-world questions that I don't really have any answers for. This is another reason that I occasionally continue to pester Eric Allman and Wietse Venema to make changes to their respective MTAs, so that they at least allow the option of holding open the connection to the transmitter and not return "250 Ok" until such time as the mail message(s) have actually been delivered to the mailboxes, as opposed to just written to spool. This kind of option would allow wicked-fast things such as running /var/spool/mqueue on a memory-based filesystem. Of course, you'd need a timeout and return something like "251 Okay, will spool" and a way to ensure that the spool file for that message has actually been written to physical disk, although perhaps this could be left up to the OS and the MTA just uses the standard system calls to move the file from one directory/filesystem to another (the source could be an mfs, while the target could be UFS). Of course, not everyone would want or could make use of an option like this, but I suspect that the largest sites needing the absolute maximum performance out of their multiple mail servers would be *real* happy if this sort of thing were possible. > Don't NetApps do logging, so if the system crashes, the files are > recovered from the log? The log-structured filesystem and snapshots are two advantages that Network Appliance NFS servers do have. -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ____________________________________________________________________ |o| Brad Knowles, Belgacom Skynet NV/SA |o| |o| Systems Architect, News & FTP Admin Rue Col. Bourg, 124 |o| |o| Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.11.11/12.49 B-1140 Brussels |o| |o| http://www.skynet.be Belgium |o| \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Unix is like a wigwam -- no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside. Unix is very user-friendly. It's just picky who its friends are. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 9:34:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F304E14E07 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:34:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: from home.elischer.org (home.elischer.org [207.76.204.203]) by alpo.whistle.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA46928; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:34:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:34:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer X-Sender: julian@home.elischer.org To: Matthew Dillon Cc: Dan Nelson , Brad Knowles , Thomas Dean , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: More benchmarking stuff... In-Reply-To: <199909171611.JAA53554@apollo.backplane.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: > :> files sitting in unflushed disk caches and you reboot, those files are > :> lost. Softupdated just guarantees that the disk will be in a stable > :> state after a crash, not that all data written before the crash will be > :> available. > :> > : > :Soft updates guarantees that when an fsync() is done, it's on disk... > > Actually.... it doesn't. I wish it did. All softupdates does is > guarentee that the on-disk image is stable, it doesn't guarentee > that the on-disk image has been synchronized to what the program > thinks it has written to the file. According to kirk FSYNC() does the right thing and 'sync()' doesn't. > > -Matt > Matthew Dillon > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 10:20:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from out0.mx.skynet.be (out0.mx.skynet.be [195.238.2.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CEC415372 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:20:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by out0.mx.skynet.be (8.9.3/odie-relay-v1.0) with ESMTP id TAA22582; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:20:26 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@foxbert.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199909171658.JAA53751@apollo.backplane.com> References: <199909171658.JAA53751@apollo.backplane.com> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:19:58 +0200 To: Matthew Dillon , current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: 2xPIIIx450 results & NFS results (was More benchmarking stuff...) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 9:58 AM -0700 1999/9/17, Matthew Dillon wrote: > It seems pretty clear to me that this benchmark has been designed > to show-off the netapp in the best possible light and its competitors > in the worst possible light. Well, ok, that may be an overly-harsh > assessment, but it is still true to some degree. The benchmark is > seriously flawed. Might I then request that you help rewrite it so that it performs a much more comprehensive testing of OS/filesystem throughput? Myself, I'd really love to see something that lets you seriously stress your system along the lines of Greg Lehey's rawio, but instead at a higher level. IMO, bonnie sucks worse than postmark, although they're measuring different things. Although it should certainly be forking, whether forking or not I can tell you that creating huge directories is not necessarily a bad simulation of a heavily-used mail server. I've seen mail servers with over 100,000 files in /var/spool/mqueue, both at former employers (like AOL), and at former customer sites (such as some of the largest freemail providers in the world). I can't speak for anything else that the program is supposedly testing, but at least this aspect of performance is one of the most common, and yet most easily dealt with, problems I have run across in all my years of managing large mail systems. That's why directory size is #1 on the hit parade in the presentation I occasionally give entitled "Sendmail Performance Tuning for Large Systems", most recently given at SANE'98. See if you want copies of the slides. -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ____________________________________________________________________ |o| Brad Knowles, Belgacom Skynet NV/SA |o| |o| Systems Architect, News & FTP Admin Rue Col. Bourg, 124 |o| |o| Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.11.11/12.49 B-1140 Brussels |o| |o| http://www.skynet.be Belgium |o| \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Unix is like a wigwam -- no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside. Unix is very user-friendly. It's just picky who its friends are. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 10:57: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from orthanc.ab.ca (orthanc.ab.ca [207.167.3.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D78AA14CA5 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:57:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca) Received: from orthanc.ab.ca (localhost.orthanc.ab.ca [127.0.0.1] (may be forged)) by orthanc.ab.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA60380 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:57:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca) Message-Id: <199909171757.LAA60380@orthanc.ab.ca> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Patch to add bridging to vr Ethernet driver Organization: The Frobozz Magic Homing Pigeon Company Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:57:01 -0600 From: lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Could someone *please* review and commit this patch to /sys/pci/if_vr.c? I've been trying since June to get this into the source tree. If/when this goes in you can close kern/12385. Thanks. --lyndon --- /sys/pci/if_vr.c Fri Aug 27 18:50:59 1999 +++ if_vr.c Mon Sep 6 21:57:43 1999 @@ -79,6 +79,11 @@ #include #endif +#include "opt_bdg.h" +#ifdef BRIDGE +#include +#endif /* BRIDGE */ + #include /* for vtophys */ #include /* for vtophys */ #include /* for DELAY */ @@ -1415,7 +1420,21 @@ continue; } } -#endif +#endif /* NBPF>0 */ +#ifdef BRIDGE + if (do_bridge) { + struct ifnet *bdg_ifp; + bdg_ifp = bridge_in(m); + if (bdg_ifp != BDG_LOCAL && bdg_ifp != BDG_DROP) + bdg_forward(&m, bdg_ifp); + if (((bdg_ifp != BDG_LOCAL) && (bdg_ifp != BDG_BCAST) && + (bdg_ifp != BDG_MCAST)) || bdg_ifp == BDG_DROP) { + m_freem(m); + continue; + } + } +#endif /* BRIDGE */ + /* Remove header from mbuf and pass it on. */ m_adj(m, sizeof(struct ether_header)); ether_input(ifp, eh, m); To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 10:59: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B9114CA5 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:59:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: from current1.whistle.com (current1.whistle.com [207.76.205.22]) by alpo.whistle.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA51562; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:58:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:58:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Matthew Dillon Cc: Dan Nelson , Brad Knowles , Thomas Dean , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: More benchmarking stuff... In-Reply-To: <199909171717.KAA53861@apollo.backplane.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: > :According to kirk FSYNC() does the right thing and 'sync()' doesn't. > : > > Lets see... well, it will sync the file state, but it will not > necessarily sync the related directory entry (as far as I can tell). > > So if you take a case such as sendmail creating a queue file, fsync > will succeed and the file itself will be consistent, but the directory > entry for the file may not yet have been created and synced. A crash > at that point would result in a missing file. > > Kirk would know for sure. According to kirk, the fsync() will not return until all meta data back to the root has been sync'd, (welllllllll, all "CONTIGUOUSLY TRACKED" metadata.... i.e unitll the chain hit's something already sync'd. ) > > - > > At some point we need to extend the kernel VOP_FSYNC API to include > a file offset/range so NFS can conditionally fsync part of a file and > know for sure that it's data and metadata have gone to the platter. > And its directory entry as well in the case of a newly created file. > > -Matt > Matthew Dillon > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 11:37:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from out0.mx.skynet.be (out0.mx.skynet.be [195.238.2.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E0B15857 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:37:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by out0.mx.skynet.be (8.9.3/odie-relay-v1.0) with ESMTP id UAA13388; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 20:37:09 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@foxbert.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199909171817.LAA54393@apollo.backplane.com> References: <199909171658.JAA53751@apollo.backplane.com> <199909171817.LAA54393@apollo.backplane.com> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 20:36:53 +0200 To: Matthew Dillon From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: 2xPIIIx450 results & NFS results (was More benchmarking stuff...) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:17 AM -0700 1999/9/17, Matthew Dillon wrote: > What we really need is something that generates a performance > curve based on several variables, including block size, locality of > reference (seek randomosity), amount of parallelism, locality of > parallelism (i.e. operating on same files vs different files), size of > dataset in bytes, and size of dataset in files. URRP! Man, you don't ask for much, do you? ;-) > I don't have the time to do it. Sniff! Well, just adding forking to the current benchmark would be a really significant improvement. Unfortunately, the only thing rustier than my overall skills in programming C (over ten years ago) are my system programming skills in C. I am willing (and want) to slowly push my way into trying to understand programs like Diablo, but that only works when I've got someone much better than I am to lean on (such as you or Joe Greco). However, I would have *no* earthly clue *whatsoever* how to even consider going about making the kinds of changes you're suggesting to postmark. -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ____________________________________________________________________ |o| Brad Knowles, Belgacom Skynet NV/SA |o| |o| Systems Architect, News & FTP Admin Rue Col. Bourg, 124 |o| |o| Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.11.11/12.49 B-1140 Brussels |o| |o| http://www.skynet.be Belgium |o| \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Unix is like a wigwam -- no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside. Unix is very user-friendly. It's just picky who its friends are. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 12:10: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E80F414CEF for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:09:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA01500; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:09:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA52790; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:09:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3987.937584158@critter.freebsd.dk> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:09:50 -0700 (PDT) Organization: Polstra & Co., Inc. From: John Polstra To: Poul-Henning Kamp Subject: Re: An FS question perhaps... non blocking I/O. Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >>Somehow the thought of a 63,000-element pollfd array leaves me cold. > > Sounds like something Bruce would do :-) It could be worse. Satoshi, for example, would say something like: There are now 63000 files and directories in the repository. That's 2**3 * 3**2 * 5**3 * 7. If we concatenate the exponents, we get 3231, which is 3**2 * 359. Repeating, we get 21, which is 3 * 7. One more repetition and we get 11, which is itself a prime, as is 37. Isn't that amazing? ;-) John --- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up." -- Nora Ephron To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 12:25:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from out1.mx.skynet.be (out1.mx.skynet.be [195.238.2.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B7514F6E for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:25:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by out1.mx.skynet.be (8.9.3/odie-relay-v1.0) with ESMTP id VAB05852; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 21:25:37 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@foxbert.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199909171856.LAA54721@apollo.backplane.com> References: <199909171658.JAA53751@apollo.backplane.com> <199909171856.LAA54721@apollo.backplane.com> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 21:25:02 +0200 To: Matthew Dillon , current@FreeBSD.ORG From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: 2xPIIIx450 results & NFS results (was More benchmarking stuff...) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:56 AM -0700 1999/9/17, Matthew Dillon wrote: > In real-life... for example, with a mail or web server, the namecache > tends to be somewhat more effective then 50%. The web servers at BEST > generally had a 95%+ name cache hit rate. The name cache misses are > what are causing the lion's share of the directory inefficiencies. Note that with a mail server, this is precisely the sort of thing that happens with /var/spool/mqueue. In particular, with sendmail, a qf/df pair of files get created, the message is received, the sender is told "250 Ok", then sendmail goes to deliver the message in the background, which 95-99% of the time happens on the first attempt, and then the qf/df pair of files get deleted. So, again, we see that they've actually done a decent first-pass attempt at simulating the load a mail server would place on the filesystem. All that we need to add now are a few more features. ;-) With a news server using traditional spool, the file would tend to get created, live for a relatively significant period of time (days or even weeks before it gets expired), and only then would it get removed. An absolutely full newsfeed these days is running somewhere around 1.1 million files comprising some 55GB of data (see ), or an average of 52,608.71 bytes per article. A very busy mail server might do a million messages per day (or more), but the average message size would be much closer to 2-5KB. The primary difference between mail and news is that news articles tend to live a lot longer (mail messages might live for months or years in a users mailbox, but that's not /var/spool/mqueue, and has a different pattern of access), and they tend to be a lot larger. However, there are still on the same order of number of articles/messages input per day versus deleted per day (assuming you've got a handle on your spool and it's not growing out of control on you), it just typically takes news servers a few days to delete something once it comes in. Thus, the name cache misses might tend to be lower on news servers, but I wouldn't be too willing to bet on it -- an article that got created seven days ago and not touched since probably won't be in the name cache any more than a file that is just now being created. Of course, once you get into CNFS or timehash sorts of news spool storage mechanisms, you've traded the name cache problem and directory update problems in for an entirely different set of problems, and the filesystem may or may not be particularly good at optimizing them, as softupdates is with lots more smaller individual files. -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ____________________________________________________________________ |o| Brad Knowles, Belgacom Skynet NV/SA |o| |o| Systems Architect, News & FTP Admin Rue Col. Bourg, 124 |o| |o| Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.11.11/12.49 B-1140 Brussels |o| |o| http://www.skynet.be Belgium |o| \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Unix is like a wigwam -- no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside. Unix is very user-friendly. It's just picky who its friends are. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 12:55:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A222714DFB for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:55:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA08536 for current@freebsd.org; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:55:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:55:07 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Panic (From -chat's Re: Real Audio program that discusses FreeBSD, solaris, and Linux) Message-ID: <19990917145507.A4975@futuresouth.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: ; from scanner@jurai.net on Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 11:21:51PM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > http://www.thesync.com/etc/archives.html When I tried to view the program linked here, my -CURRENT system went kablouie. FreeBSD mortis.futuresouth.com 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #0: Tue Sep 14 16:48:29 CDT 1999 fullermd@mortis.futuresouth.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/MORTIS i386 I have a coredump. Panic message is: (Yes, I have mastered the skill of dropping to DDB and panicing while in X ;) Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode mp_lock = 01000002; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 0c000000 fault virtual address = 0x14 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0162490 stack pointer = 0x10:0xcb1c9d4c frame pointer = 0x10:0xcb1c9d60 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 372 (screen-3.7.6) interrupt mask = tty <- SMP: XXX panic: from debugger mp_lock = 01000003; cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 0c000000 boot() called on cpu#1 Ideas? Backtrace looks like: #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:281 #1 0xc0157319 in panic (fmt=0xc0282090 "feed_root: count == 0") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:531 #2 0xc0215685 in feed_root (feeder=0xc02aa460, buffer=0xcbfcbefe
, count=0, stream=0xce35aefc) at ../../dev/pcm/feeder.c:112 #3 0xc0214c80 in chn_write (c=0xc10d4000, buf=0xce35aefc) at ../../dev/pcm/channel.c:286 #4 0xc0213d70 in dsp_write (d=0xc10d3400, chan=0, buf=0xce35aefc, flag=21) at ../../dev/pcm/dsp.c:187 #5 0xc021321d in sndwrite (i_dev=0xc11e3f00, buf=0xce35aefc, flag=21) at ../../dev/pcm/sound.c:310 #6 0xc018bcc4 in spec_write (ap=0xce35aeb4) at ../../miscfs/specfs/spec_vnops.c:369 #7 0xc0201cb0 in ufsspec_write (ap=0xce35aeb4) at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:1858 #8 0xc0202251 in ufs_vnoperatespec (ap=0xce35aeb4) at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:2313 #9 0xc0186032 in vn_write (fp=0xc15d4dc0, uio=0xce35aefc, cred=0xc12e0f00, flags=0) at vnode_if.h:331 #10 0xc0163fc8 in dofilewrite (p=0xce2c8340, fp=0xc15d4dc0, fd=13, buf=0x81cfc88, nbyte=1066, offset=-1, flags=0) at ../../kern/sys_generic.c:363 #11 0xc0163ed7 in write (p=0xce2c8340, uap=0xce35af80) at ../../kern/sys_generic.c:298 #12 0xc0241d76 in syscall (frame={tf_fs = -1078001617, tf_es = 47, tf_ds = -1078001617, tf_edi = 135924656, tf_esi = -1077948116, tf_ebp = -1077948220, tf_isp = -835342380, tf_ebx = 13, tf_edx = 1066, tf_ecx = 136117384, tf_eax = 4, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 405666084, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 582, tf_esp = -1077948224, tf_ss = 47}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:1056 #13 0xc022f171 in Xint0x80_syscall () -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Unix Systems Administrator | fullermd@futuresouth.com Specializing in FreeBSD | http://www.over-yonder.net/ FutureSouth Communications | ISPHelp ISP Consulting "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is because I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 13: 2:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from isds.duke.edu (davinci.isds.duke.edu [152.3.22.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2210714D68 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:02:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sto@stat.Duke.EDU) Received: from cayenne.isds.duke.edu (cayenne.isds.duke.edu [152.3.22.11]) by isds.duke.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA31045 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:02:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from sto@localhost) by cayenne.isds.duke.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09343 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:02:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990917160236.N9194@stat.Duke.EDU> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:02:37 -0400 From: "Sean O'Connell" To: FreeBSD current Subject: Re: Panic (From -chat's Re: Real Audio program that discusses FreeBSD, solaris, and Linux) Reply-To: "Sean O'Connell" References: <19990917145507.A4975@futuresouth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <19990917145507.A4975@futuresouth.com>; from Matthew D. Fuller on Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 02:55:07PM -0500 X-Organization: Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG hi- This looks awfully familiar to what rvplayer does to me on my -current box. Of course, no one has responded at all ot anything that I sent out... What kind of soundcard do you have? Mine is Crystal CS4236B shipped with my box (a Digital 5510)... I tried sending an email to cameron grant (cg@freebsd.org), but I have heard nothing. S On 1999 Sep 17, Matthew D. Fuller (aka fullermd@futuresouth.com) wrote: > When I tried to view the program linked here, my -CURRENT system went > kablouie. > > FreeBSD mortis.futuresouth.com 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #0: Tue > Sep 14 16:48:29 CDT 1999 > fullermd@mortis.futuresouth.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/MORTIS i386 > > I have a coredump. Panic message is: > (Yes, I have mastered the skill of dropping to DDB and panicing while in > X ;) > > Ideas? > > Backtrace looks like: > #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:281 > #1 0xc0157319 in panic (fmt=0xc0282090 "feed_root: count == 0") > at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:531 > #2 0xc0215685 in feed_root (feeder=0xc02aa460, > buffer=0xcbfcbefe
, count=0, > stream=0xce35aefc) > at ../../dev/pcm/feeder.c:112 > #3 0xc0214c80 in chn_write (c=0xc10d4000, buf=0xce35aefc) at > ../../dev/pcm/channel.c:286 > #4 0xc0213d70 in dsp_write (d=0xc10d3400, chan=0, buf=0xce35aefc, > flag=21) > at ../../dev/pcm/dsp.c:187 > #5 0xc021321d in sndwrite (i_dev=0xc11e3f00, buf=0xce35aefc, flag=21) > at ../../dev/pcm/sound.c:310 > #6 0xc018bcc4 in spec_write (ap=0xce35aeb4) at > ../../miscfs/specfs/spec_vnops.c:369 > #7 0xc0201cb0 in ufsspec_write (ap=0xce35aeb4) at > ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:1858 > #8 0xc0202251 in ufs_vnoperatespec (ap=0xce35aeb4) at > ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:2313 > #9 0xc0186032 in vn_write (fp=0xc15d4dc0, uio=0xce35aefc, > cred=0xc12e0f00, flags=0) > at vnode_if.h:331 > #10 0xc0163fc8 in dofilewrite (p=0xce2c8340, fp=0xc15d4dc0, fd=13, > buf=0x81cfc88, > nbyte=1066, offset=-1, flags=0) at ../../kern/sys_generic.c:363 > #11 0xc0163ed7 in write (p=0xce2c8340, uap=0xce35af80) at > ../../kern/sys_generic.c:298 > #12 0xc0241d76 in syscall (frame={tf_fs = -1078001617, tf_es = 47, tf_ds > = -1078001617, > tf_edi = 135924656, tf_esi = -1077948116, tf_ebp = -1077948220, > tf_isp = -835342380, > tf_ebx = 13, tf_edx = 1066, tf_ecx = 136117384, tf_eax = 4, > tf_trapno = 12, > tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 405666084, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 582, tf_esp > = -1077948224, > tf_ss = 47}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:1056 > #13 0xc022f171 in Xint0x80_syscall () -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Sean O'Connell Email: sean@stat.Duke.EDU Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Phone: (919) 684-5419 Duke University Fax: (919) 684-8594 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 13:27:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from out1.mx.skynet.be (out1.mx.skynet.be [195.238.2.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E0AB154B2 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:27:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blk@skynet.be) Received: from [195.238.1.121] (brad.techos.skynet.be [195.238.1.121]) by out1.mx.skynet.be (8.9.3/odie-relay-v1.0) with ESMTP id WAA12728; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 22:26:55 +0200 (MET DST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: blk@foxbert.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199909172002.NAA54939@apollo.backplane.com> References: <199909171658.JAA53751@apollo.backplane.com> <199909171856.LAA54721@apollo.backplane.com> <199909172002.NAA54939@apollo.backplane.com> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 22:26:18 +0200 To: Matthew Dillon From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: 2xPIIIx450 results & NFS results (was More benchmarking stuff...) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 1:02 PM -0700 1999/9/17, Matthew Dillon wrote: > Sendmail does not get into trouble with queue files it is able to retire > quickly. Where sendmail gets into trouble is with queue files it ISN'T > able to retire quickly. This is why you *see* 10,000+ files in mqueue > at times. These files build up because a small percentage of mail > destinations cannot be delivered to immediately. In my experience, sendmail almost always accepts messages a lot faster than it can process them, regardless of the mode in which sendmail is running. Foreground, queue-only, background, in my experience it doesn't make a whole lot of difference. So the input number of files can grow very quickly, with deliveries (and mqueue file removals) suffering. > The reason sendmail tends to break down with large queue directories has > little to do with directory overhead and a lot to do with sendmail's own > algorithms. If you have 50 sendmails running a 10,000 file queue, each > of those sendmail processes is essentially scanning the entire queue. Yup, that's another very real problem with sendmail, and another reason why I really like postfix. > If not controlled, this eventually leads to a cascade failure. The > potential for a cascade failure is, in fact, the number one reason for > *NOT* running sendmail with background queueing mode turned on. The > best way to avoid a cascade failure is to run the sendmail daemon in > queue-only mode with a set fork limit: > > sendmail -bd -OMaxDaemonChildren=X -ODeliveryMode=q > > And run the sendmail queue runner separately: > > sendmail -q1m -OMaxDaemonChildren=Y -OMinQueueAge=1h In my experience, you still get messages being accepted a lot faster than they're being pushed out. This is usually made even worse when you're delivering to mbox-style mailboxes, where a single large message may come in addressed to dozens of recipients, and now you might have megabytes of data being read but gigabytes of data being written. This is another of my pet peeves, where I believe that a database-oriented solution that writes just one copy of the message and then gives all recipients pointers to it, would help a great deal. Of course, there's not anyone like Eric or Wietse to pick on when it comes to writing database-oriented local delivery agents. > The key issue with any mail server is that bandwidth and transaction > useage tends to be low relatively speaking. A USENET news system > almost always has much higher transactional overhead, especially if it > is taking several feeds. A million news messages a day translates to > around 10 million protocol transactions for a news box taking 4 feeds. However, most of those transactions should be looking up message-ids in history or precommit cache databases and then refusing the article without it actually being transmitted. High transactional rates, yes. But the actual number of articles being received would be on par with a very busy mail server. If you've got a lot of outbound feeds, of course the outbound data rate could be a very real problem, but that's a separate issue. > What you cannot afford to spend time > doing in a mail server is scanning the same queue file over and over > again, so what you want to optimize for are the 5% of email messages > that wind up stuck in the queue for more then a few minutes but usually > less then an hour, and then make sure the 1% that stick around past > that do not interfere with the processing of those that stick around > less. You can't really fix sendmail in this regard, although you could replace it with a different MTA. I guess you could change the implementation methods of the underlying filesystem so as to speed up those constant linear sweeps of the entire mqueue directory by the queue runners (and by every sendmail process that goes to create a file in the mqueue, since they have to guarantee that the filename they're creating is unique). How you would actually do this is totally beyond me, however. -- These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy ____________________________________________________________________ |o| Brad Knowles, Belgacom Skynet NV/SA |o| |o| Systems Architect, News & FTP Admin Rue Col. Bourg, 124 |o| |o| Phone/Fax: +32-2-706.11.11/12.49 B-1140 Brussels |o| |o| http://www.skynet.be Belgium |o| \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Unix is like a wigwam -- no Gates, no Windows, and an Apache inside. Unix is very user-friendly. It's just picky who its friends are. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 13:41:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C73B0154EC for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:39:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA11924; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:39:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:39:07 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: "Sean O'Connell" Cc: FreeBSD current Subject: Re: Panic (From -chat's Re: Real Audio program that discusses FreeBSD, solaris, and Linux) Message-ID: <19990917153907.C4975@futuresouth.com> References: <19990917145507.A4975@futuresouth.com> <19990917160236.N9194@stat.Duke.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <19990917160236.N9194@stat.Duke.EDU>; from Sean O'Connell on Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 04:02:37PM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 04:02:37PM -0400, a little birdie told me that Sean O'Connell remarked > hi- > > This looks awfully familiar to what rvplayer does to me on > my -current box. Of course, no one has responded at all ot > anything that I sent out... I've never had any troubles out of it before. This is the first time I've had any problems out of it. It didn't have any problems playing mp3's, or audio off .avi clips. > What kind of soundcard do you have? Mine is Crystal CS4236B > shipped with my box (a Digital 5510)... This is the builtin on an Intel Providence motherboard: pcm1: at port 0x534-0x537,0x388-0x38b,0x220-0x22f irq 5 drq 1,0 on isa0 -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Unix Systems Administrator | fullermd@futuresouth.com Specializing in FreeBSD | http://www.over-yonder.net/ FutureSouth Communications | ISPHelp ISP Consulting "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is because I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 15:31: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFC7E154DB; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:29:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA83224; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:29:41 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id QAA05731; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:28:40 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199909172228.QAA05731@harmony.village.org> To: Mike Pritchard Subject: Re: Weird syscons keyboard behaviour Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 17 Sep 1999 06:43:45 CDT." <199909171143.GAA00356@mpp.pro-ns.net> References: <199909171143.GAA00356@mpp.pro-ns.net> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:28:40 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <199909171143.GAA00356@mpp.pro-ns.net> Mike Pritchard writes: : I've noticed some odd syscons keyboard behaviour over the past : month or so. Sometimes I get a vty that outputs PC graphics characters : for all of my input. This is always at a "login:" prompt. I think : I can duplicate this by typing a bunch of garbage at a login prompt, : but I don't feel like trying to test it right now and have to : reboot my main machine. syscons can get confused about the state of the CTRL key. I see exactly this if i hit ^C to sendmail just before the keymap changes since the key up event is after the keymap change and that key is no longer ctrl. However, hitting the control key several times seems to fix this. Next time you see the problem, you might want to try this. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 15:41: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAE0B14D1B for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:40:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA83258; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:40:49 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id QAA05788; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:39:48 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199909172239.QAA05788@harmony.village.org> To: John Polstra Subject: Re: An FS question perhaps... non blocking I/O. Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:09:50 PDT." References: Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:39:48 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message John Polstra writes: : There are now 63000 files and directories in the repository. : That's 2**3 * 3**2 * 5**3 * 7. If we concatenate the exponents, : we get 3231, which is 3**2 * 359. Repeating, we get 21, which : is 3 * 7. One more repetition and we get 11, which is itself a : prime, as is 37. Isn't that amazing? : : ;-) Stop. The Illuminati "Law of 5's" is spreading. After all we have 2**3 (2+3 is 5), 3**2 (ditto) and 5**3 (three of the sacred 5's). The 7 is put in to confuse The Man[tm], but true afficionados know about the deception and how to deal with that. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 16:14:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from proxy2.ba.best.com (proxy2.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEE6E14D52 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:14:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: from apollo.backplane.com ([209.157.86.2]) by proxy2.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id QAA04546 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:12:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA19699; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 16:56:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 16:56:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199909122356.QAA19699@apollo.backplane.com> To: Ben Rosengart Cc: Chris Costello , "Rodney W. Grimes" , Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai , Tim Vanderhoek , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: more References: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :On Sun, 12 Sep 1999, Chris Costello wrote: : :> On Sun, Sep 12, 1999, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: :> > Not with me, and I am sure Warner and a few other die hard ``more'' users :> > are going to be chimming in here as soon as they get to this... :> :> Down with "n"! Up with "/"! : :No, up with '?'. : :-- : Ben Rosengart Up with '?' followed by 'n'! -Matt Matthew Dillon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 16:14:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from proxy2.ba.best.com (proxy2.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC2F415916 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:14:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: from apollo.backplane.com ([209.157.86.2]) by proxy2.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id QAA04254 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:12:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA53554; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:11:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:11:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199909171611.JAA53554@apollo.backplane.com> To: Julian Elischer Cc: Dan Nelson , Brad Knowles , Thomas Dean , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: More benchmarking stuff... References: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :> files sitting in unflushed disk caches and you reboot, those files are :> lost. Softupdated just guarantees that the disk will be in a stable :> state after a crash, not that all data written before the crash will be :> available. :> : :Soft updates guarantees that when an fsync() is done, it's on disk... Actually.... it doesn't. I wish it did. All softupdates does is guarentee that the on-disk image is stable, it doesn't guarentee that the on-disk image has been synchronized to what the program thinks it has written to the file. -Matt Matthew Dillon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 16:14:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from proxy2.ba.best.com (proxy2.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2F7A1591B for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:14:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: from apollo.backplane.com ([209.157.86.2]) by proxy2.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id QAA04431 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:12:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA26035; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 14:22:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 14:22:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199909132122.OAA26035@apollo.backplane.com> To: Matthew Thyer Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world speed-up patch (was Re: optional 'make release' speed-up patch) References: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :The snippet from /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 that I'm talking about (in my :own little world) was this: : :.if !defined(NOCLEAN) : @echo : @echo "--------------------------------------------------------------" : @echo ">>> Cleaning up the temporary ${OBJFORMAT} build tree" : @echo "--------------------------------------------------------------" : mkdir -p ${WORLDTMP} : -chflags -R noschg ${WORLDTMP}/ : rm -rf ${WORLDTMP} :.endif : : :Can we please have this optimised ? I think that the rm -rf can safely be placed before before AND after the chflags, which will optimize the chflags considerably. This combined with using softupdates for your /usr/obj partition will result in a very quick cleanup time. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 16:14:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from proxy2.ba.best.com (proxy2.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 703C41593E for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:14:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: from apollo.backplane.com ([209.157.86.2]) by proxy2.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id QAA04256 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:12:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id IAA53266; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:22:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:22:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199909171522.IAA53266@apollo.backplane.com> To: Don Lewis Cc: Brad Knowles , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: More benchmarking stuff... References: <199909171402.HAA23902@salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :Also FreeBSD only caches a limited number of directory blocks. This :was discussed on -hackers in April. Search for the subject "Directories :not VMIO cached at all!". Matt Dillon posted a patch to to better :cache directories (at the possible expense of wasted RAM and which breaks :NFS) in Message-ID <199904171844.LAA75452@apollo.backplane.com>. That's been committed, but you have to turn it on with a sysctl because softupdates occassionally barfs with it on. It seems unlikely to me that it will effect the benchmark unless the benchmark creates a whole lot of directories. sysctl -w vfs.vmiodirenable=1 The NFSv3 performance elements have also been committed. I'm going to try running this benchmark thingy on my test boxes as soon as I can get my cvs tree updated. -Matt Matthew Dillon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 16:14:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from proxy2.ba.best.com (proxy2.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB7DB15947 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:14:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: from apollo.backplane.com ([209.157.86.2]) by proxy2.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id QAA04261 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:12:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id XAA49396; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 23:32:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 23:32:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199909170632.XAA49396@apollo.backplane.com> To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: HEADs UP - VM, VN, SWAP, NFS commits made References: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A large number of commits have been made relating to the following: VM a number of minor swap related bugs have been fixed madvise() enhancements prepatory 'lastr' field added to vm_map_entry VN swap-backed VN now works again **** major enhancements made to VN device, see new vnconfig man page NFS client-side nfs commit rpc now asynchronized (when you are running nfsiod's), wasn't before. major performance improvement in server-side nfs commit rpc - full file fsync replaced with ranged block sync. SPECFS A bug related to mmap()ing files backed by disks with sector sizes larger then 512 bytes fixed. **** sysctl vfs.enable_userblk_io added, defaults to 1. Setting to 0 disables buffered block device access from usermode, allowing testing to determine what roadblocks, if any, remain in regards to the removal of user access to buffered block devices. Fixes for BOOTP are slated to go in tomorrow. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 16:14:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from proxy2.ba.best.com (proxy2.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 265581597C for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:14:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: from apollo.backplane.com ([209.157.86.2]) by proxy2.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id QAA04236 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:12:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA53861; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:17:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:17:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199909171717.KAA53861@apollo.backplane.com> To: Julian Elischer Cc: Dan Nelson , Brad Knowles , Thomas Dean , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: More benchmarking stuff... References: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :According to kirk FSYNC() does the right thing and 'sync()' doesn't. : Lets see... well, it will sync the file state, but it will not necessarily sync the related directory entry (as far as I can tell). So if you take a case such as sendmail creating a queue file, fsync will succeed and the file itself will be consistent, but the directory entry for the file may not yet have been created and synced. A crash at that point would result in a missing file. Kirk would know for sure. - At some point we need to extend the kernel VOP_FSYNC API to include a file offset/range so NFS can conditionally fsync part of a file and know for sure that it's data and metadata have gone to the platter. And its directory entry as well in the case of a newly created file. -Matt Matthew Dillon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 16:15:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from proxy2.ba.best.com (proxy2.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 650A71599E for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:15:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: from apollo.backplane.com ([209.157.86.2]) by proxy2.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id QAA04212 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:12:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA54393; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:17:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:17:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199909171817.LAA54393@apollo.backplane.com> To: Brad Knowles Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2xPIIIx450 results & NFS results (was More benchmarking stuff...) References: <199909171658.JAA53751@apollo.backplane.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG : Might I then request that you help rewrite it so that it performs :a much more comprehensive testing of OS/filesystem throughput? :Myself, I'd really love to see something that lets you seriously :stress your system along the lines of Greg Lehey's rawio, but instead :at a higher level. IMO, bonnie sucks worse than postmark, although :they're measuring different things. : : Although it should certainly be forking, whether forking or not I :can tell you that creating huge directories is not necessarily a bad :simulation of a heavily-used mail server. I've seen mail servers :with over 100,000 files in /var/spool/mqueue, both at former :employers (like AOL), and at former customer sites (such as some of :the largest freemail providers in the world). What we really need is something that generates a performance curve based on several variables, including block size, locality of reference (seek randomosity), amount of parallelism, locality of parallelism (i.e. operating on same files vs different files), size of dataset in bytes, and size of dataset in files. The program should dynamically mess with all the variables until it gets a statistically relevant curve. I don't have the time to do it. Sniff! -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 16:15:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from proxy2.ba.best.com (proxy2.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E606115AF3 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:15:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: from apollo.backplane.com ([209.157.86.2]) by proxy2.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id QAA04201 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA54721; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:56:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:56:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199909171856.LAA54721@apollo.backplane.com> To: Brad Knowles , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2xPIIIx450 results & NFS results (was More benchmarking stuff...) References: <199909171658.JAA53751@apollo.backplane.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG : The program should dynamically mess with all the variables until it : gets a statistically relevant curve. Clarification: My definition of 'curve' is actually 'N dimensional surface' where N is the number of variables... 5 or 6 or so. Don't ask me how it could be represented! Maybe as a baseline for each variable and a spread that covers how the baseline changes with other variables. - I ran the 20000/50000 test with postmark set to 100 subdirectories. I've added it to the end. 1000/50000 trans read write (client with 32M of ram) UFS+SOFT 264/s 841K/s 860K/s NFS 84/s 270K/s 276K/s 1000/50000 trans read write (client with 1G of ram) UFS+SOFT 1515/s 4.7M/s 4.8M/s NFS 107/s 344K/s 352K/s 20000/50000 trans read write (client with 1G of ram) UFS+SOFT 162/s 366K/s 663K/s NFS 50/s 125K/s 226K/s 20000/50000 trans read write (1G ram, 100 subdirectories) UFS+SOFT 340/s 723K/s 1.31M/s NFS 43/s 110K/s 199K/s I also ran the tests on a 2-disk stripe CCD (verses a single disk), but the results were the same - due to the lack of parallelism I guess the disk performance is not a big issue. One thing of interest to note, especially as it relates to the performance degredation with a larger number of files, is that 'systat -vm 1' reports an approximately 50% name-cache hit no matter what postmark is doing. In otherwords, postmark is creating a new file (namecache miss), opening it (namecache hit), doing some I/O, and then closing it. In real-life... for example, with a mail or web server, the namecache tends to be somewhat more effective then 50%. The web servers at BEST generally had a 95%+ name cache hit rate. The name cache misses are what are causing the lion's share of the directory inefficiencies. -Matt Matthew Dillon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 16:15:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from proxy2.ba.best.com (proxy2.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFAF115AF5 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:15:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: from apollo.backplane.com ([209.157.86.2]) by proxy2.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id QAA04243 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:12:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA53751; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:58:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:58:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199909171658.JAA53751@apollo.backplane.com> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG, Brad Knowles Subject: 2xPIIIx450 results & NFS results (was More benchmarking stuff...) References: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ok, these are on duel P3 450 boxes running -CURRENT, with the NFS performance enhancements. Local disk is an 18G seacrate on an LVD/W scsi bus. UFS tests: on 1G duel P3-450 machine, 1x18G seagate SCSI-LW bus NFS tests: 1G duel P3-450 client, 512M duel P3-450 server, 100BaseTX, nfsd -n 4, nfsiod -n 4. Heh heh I accidently left my UFS/NFS-client box configured for 32M of memory and had gotten through the 1000/50000 tests before I realized it! So I might as well give you the results: 1000/50000 trans read write (client with 32M of ram) UFS+SOFT 264/s 841K/s 860K/s NFS 84/s 270K/s 276K/s 1000/50000 trans read write (client with 1G of ram) UFS+SOFT 1515/s 4.7M/s 4.8M/s NFS 107/s 344K/s 352K/s 20000/50000 trans read write (client with 1G of ram) UFS+SOFT 162/s 366K/s 663K/s NFS 50/s 125K/s 226K/s Both the client and server systems were 90%+ *IDLE* during all tests. The network was operating at 1-2 MBytes/sec through the 1000/50000 tests and from 0.6MB to 1.2MB/sec through the 20000/50000 test. This isn't surprising since the test is performing essentially random seek I/O's from a single process. The benchmark has a number of problems. The 'postmark' program isn't forking at all, so there is a serious bottleneck in the process itself, especially whenever a read is issued. It doesn't really give us an accurate representation of a multi-tasking load. Most NFS servers have a multitasking load so it isn't really a fair test. The benchmark shows pretty clearly the inefficiency of large UFS directories. Putting 20000 files in a single directory is not fun, and it seriously skews the test results considering what the benchmark is supposed to be testing. It seems pretty clear to me that this benchmark has been designed to show-off the netapp in the best possible light and its competitors in the worst possible light. Well, ok, that may be an overly-harsh assessment, but it is still true to some degree. The benchmark is seriously flawed. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 16:16: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from proxy2.ba.best.com (proxy2.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8041715B54 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:16:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: from apollo.backplane.com ([209.157.86.2]) by proxy2.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id QAA04194 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA54939; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:02:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:02:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199909172002.NAA54939@apollo.backplane.com> To: Brad Knowles Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2xPIIIx450 results & NFS results (was More benchmarking stuff...) References: <199909171658.JAA53751@apollo.backplane.com> <199909171856.LAA54721@apollo.backplane.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG : Note that with a mail server, this is precisely the sort of thing :that happens with /var/spool/mqueue. In particular, with sendmail, a :qf/df pair of files get created, the message is received, the sender :is told "250 Ok", then sendmail goes to deliver the message in the :background, which 95-99% of the time happens on the first attempt, :and then the qf/df pair of files get deleted. : : So, again, we see that they've actually done a decent first-pass :attempt at simulating the load a mail server would place on the :filesystem. All that we need to add now are a few more features. ;-) :... :|o| Brad Knowles, Belgacom Skynet NV/SA |o| Well, actually I would disagree quite strongly with you here. Sendmail does not get into trouble with queue files it is able to retire quickly. Where sendmail gets into trouble is with queue files it ISN'T able to retire quickly. This is why you *see* 10,000+ files in mqueue at times. These files build up because a small percentage of mail destinations cannot be delivered to immediately. These files are being continuously rescanned by sendmail queue runs. It is because of these files that you get good hit-rates on the name cache. The reason sendmail tends to break down with large queue directories has little to do with directory overhead and a lot to do with sendmail's own algorithms. If you have 50 sendmails running a 10,000 file queue, each of those sendmail processes is essentially scanning the entire queue. That is, sendmail is implementing an O(N^2) algorithm irregardless of the directory overhead. When you add UFS cache-miss directory scan overhead to the fray, it becomes O(N^3). The MinQueueAge sendmail option helps considerably, but every sendmail is still going through and scanning the directory and stat'ing every control file. If not controlled, this eventually leads to a cascade failure. The potential for a cascade failure is, in fact, the number one reason for *NOT* running sendmail with background queueing mode turned on. The best way to avoid a cascade failure is to run the sendmail daemon in queue-only mode with a set fork limit: sendmail -bd -OMaxDaemonChildren=X -ODeliveryMode=q And run the sendmail queue runner separately: sendmail -q1m -OMaxDaemonChildren=Y -OMinQueueAge=1h If you run the sendmail daemon in background-delivery mode it is possible to saturate the system with running processes that stick around trying to deliver mail to downed destinations. If you do not separate the queue-running from the daemon accepting connections you can wind up in the situation where one or the other hogs the MaxDaemonChildren process limit. But if you run them separately, with separate limits, you give the system a chance to recover from 'blow-up' situations without requiring intervention from the sysop. Just controlling the number of sendmails running the queue immediately solves many of the directory-too-big problems by preventing a queue-run cascade failure (where sendmails are forked to run the queue more quickly then they can be retired). : An absolutely full newsfeed these days is running somewhere :around 1.1 million files comprising some 55GB of data (see :), or an average of :52,608.71 bytes per article. A very busy mail server might do a :million messages per day (or more), but the average message size :would be much closer to 2-5KB. This is BEST's mailing-list server. 154 million messages out since Aug11 last year - around 370 days. A little less then a half a million messages a day on average. Amazingly enough, barely a terrabyte a year in traffic. In anycase, the average from this box is around 5K/msg outgoing. Statistics from Tue Aug 11 14:07:32 1998 M msgsfr bytes_from msgsto bytes_to msgsrej msgsdis Mailer 0 0 0K 3971636 38000691K 0 0 prog 1 0 0K 15894749 95543012K 0 0 *file* 3 12160185 135184699K 1 1K 2794 0 local 5 5455615 24980285K 154042760 819622748K 910650 3603 esmtp ========================================================= T 17615800 160164984K 173909146 953166452K 913444 3603 The key issue with any mail server is that bandwidth and transaction useage tends to be low relatively speaking. A USENET news system almost always has much higher transactional overhead, especially if it is taking several feeds. A million news messages a day translates to around 10 million protocol transactions for a news box taking 4 feeds. A mail server has many fewer transactions so you can actually afford to spend more time servicing them. What you cannot afford to spend time doing in a mail server is scanning the same queue file over and over again, so what you want to optimize for are the 5% of email messages that wind up stuck in the queue for more then a few minutes but usually less then an hour, and then make sure the 1% that stick around past that do not interfere with the processing of those that stick around less. -Matt Matthew Dillon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 16:57: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.xs4all.nl (smtp3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 541C315563 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:56:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from niels@bakker.net) Received: from liquid.tpb.net (arctic.xs4all.nl [194.109.37.82]) by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA23688 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 01:56:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (niels@localhost) by liquid.tpb.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id BAA19527 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 01:56:56 +0200 Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 01:56:55 +0200 (CEST) From: N X-Sender: niels@liquid.tpb.net To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2xPIIIx450 results & NFS results In-Reply-To: <199909171856.LAA54721@apollo.backplane.com> Message-ID: <9909180150210.18804-100000@liquid.tpb.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matthew Dillon wrote: [..] > One thing of interest to note, especially as it relates to the > performance degredation with a larger number of files, is that > 'systat -vm 1' reports an approximately 50% name-cache hit no > matter what postmark is doing. In otherwords, postmark is creating > a new file (namecache miss), opening it (namecache hit), doing some > I/O, and then closing it. 4.0-CURRENT (SMP on an ASUS P2B-DS with two CPU's installed; BIOS revision 1008.A, running `systat -vm 1' gives the normal display but without any numbers filled in, then switches over to an empty screen that says: The alternate system clock has died! Reverting to ``pigs'' display. Which also doesn't work (I'm sure innd would be considered a CPU and memory hog but nothing is displayed). top is also broken (0% everywhere). Apparently this can be fixed by adding `device apm0 at nexus? flags 0x0020' to the kernel config file, but the last time I tried that the machine would panic while booting. Has this been fixed since? > In real-life... for example, with a mail or web server, the namecache > tends to be somewhat more effective then 50%. The web servers at BEST > generally had a 95%+ name cache hit rate. The name cache misses are > what are causing the lion's share of the directory inefficiencies. 100% on another news server (3.2-STABLE, INN 2.2 with CNFS) :-) (only watched it for a few moments though, lowest was 97.) Thanks, -- Niels. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 16:59:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from pike.sover.net (pike.sover.net [209.198.87.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BC131519C for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:59:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adams@digitalspark.net) Received: from nightfall.digitalspark.net (arc0a335.bf.sover.net [209.198.83.243]) by pike.sover.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA00441; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:59:31 -0400 (EDT) Comments: SoVerNet Verification (on pike.sover.net) nightfall.digitalspark.net from arc0a335.bf.sover.net [209.198.83.243] 209.198.83.243 Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:59:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 20:03:19 +0000 (GMT) From: Adam Strohl To: Dan Nelson Cc: Brad Knowles , Thomas Dean , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: More benchmarking stuff... In-Reply-To: <19990917104608.A55059@dan.emsphone.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Actually, the IIRC, NetApps have NVRAM cache, powering the thing down and back up doesn't change anything. - ----( Adam Strohl )------------------------------------------------ - - UNIX Operations/Systems http://www.digitalspark.net - - adams (at) digitalspark.net xxx.xxx.xxxx xxxxx - - ----------------------------------------( DigitalSpark.NET )------- - On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Dan Nelson wrote: > In the last episode (Sep 17), Brad Knowles said: > > At 8:05 AM -0700 1999/9/17, Thomas Dean wrote: > > > Are the files deleted before they are actually written to disk? > > > > Good question. I don't know the answer. I know that the > > process is to create all the files first, then operate on them > > (including deletions and more creations), and then finally do a > > removal of all of them as quickly as possible at the end of the test. > > > > I'd be willing to guess a lot of files do get created and then > > deleted before the data ever gets written to disk. After all, > > postmark was written to simulate the kind of a load that a > > heavily-used mail system places on the machine, and that's precisely > > the sort of environment where something like softupdates or mounting > > filesystems async does tend to help the most. > > Hmm. But when you're running a mail spool, you _want_ your files to > get committed to disk, don't you? If you've got (guessing) 500 spool > files sitting in unflushed disk caches and you reboot, those files are > lost. Softupdated just guarantees that the disk will be in a stable > state after a crash, not that all data written before the crash will be > available. > > Don't NetApps do logging, so if the system crashes, the files are > recovered from the log? > > -- > Dan Nelson > dnelson@emsphone.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 19:32:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (proxy4.ba.best.com [206.184.139.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14D9914F85 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:32:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: from apollo.backplane.com ([209.157.86.2]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id TAA20731 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:32:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id TAA57463; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:32:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:32:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199909180232.TAA57463@apollo.backplane.com> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: (weeks worth of postings coming through) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry folks. My DNS problems caused freebsd.org to refuse to take my email, so it built up in my queue. I didn't realize it wasn't getting out until today (a week later). I've pushed it out with a temporary fix to my system. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 19:41:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from proxy2.ba.best.com (proxy2.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0AC614DC6 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:41:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: from apollo.backplane.com ([209.157.86.2]) by proxy2.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id TAA15691; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:36:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id TAA57506; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:35:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:35:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199909180235.TAA57506@apollo.backplane.com> To: N Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2xPIIIx450 results & NFS results References: <9909180150210.18804-100000@liquid.tpb.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :> I/O, and then closing it. : :4.0-CURRENT (SMP on an ASUS P2B-DS with two CPU's installed; BIOS revision :1008.A, running `systat -vm 1' gives the normal display but without any :numbers filled in, then switches over to an empty screen that says: :... Whenever systat or top do weird things it probably means you need to recompile libkvm. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 19:50: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from lamb.sas.com (lamb.sas.com [192.35.83.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C86821551C for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:50:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwd@unx.sas.com) Received: from mozart (mozart.unx.sas.com [192.58.184.8]) by lamb.sas.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA21866; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 22:49:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bb01f39.unx.sas.com by mozart (5.65c/SAS/Domains/5-6-90) id AA22380; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 22:49:29 -0400 Received: (from jwd@localhost) by bb01f39.unx.sas.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA25039; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 22:49:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jwd) From: "John W. DeBoskey" Message-Id: <199909180249.WAA25039@bb01f39.unx.sas.com> Subject: Re: An FS question perhaps... non blocking I/O. In-Reply-To: From Poul-Henning Kamp at "Sep 17, 1999 6: 2:38 pm" To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 22:49:29 -0400 (EDT) Cc: phk@critter.freebsd.dk (Poul-Henning Kamp) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > In message , John Polstra writes: > > >> ugh, why aren't you extending poll to work on files and directories to > >> get this info?? it would make MUCH more sense to extend poll to do this.. > >> > >> any specific reason why it wasn't done this way? > > > >Yes. Last time I checked, our CVS repository contained 50,000 files > >in 13,000 directories. Somehow the thought of a 63,000-element pollfd > >array leaves me cold. > > Sounds like something Bruce would do :-) He can try it on the repository here: $ find . -type d | wc -l 8764 $ find . -type f | wc -l 586382 $ It would be one expensive call with that many elements to scan... > > - -- > Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member > phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." > FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far! > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > ------------------------------ > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 20: 0:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ayukawa.aus.org (ayukawa.aus.org [199.166.246.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACE74158F9 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 20:00:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lh@aus.org) Received: from PHOENIX.ZER0.NET (lh@ZER0.NET [199.166.246.189]) by ayukawa.aus.org (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA28184 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 23:00:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199909122356.QAA19699@apollo.backplane.com> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 23:00:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Luke To: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: more Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 12-Sep-99 Matthew Dillon wrote: >:On Sun, 12 Sep 1999, Chris Costello wrote: >: >:> On Sun, Sep 12, 1999, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: >:> > Not with me, and I am sure Warner and a few other die hard ``more'' >:> > users >:> > are going to be chimming in here as soon as they get to this... >:> >:> Down with "n"! Up with "/"! >: >:No, up with '?'. >: >:-- >: Ben Rosengart > > Up with '?' followed by 'n'! > that bold Search: scared me earlier. It seems to friendly! Luke To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 21:28:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 132EB154E9 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 21:28:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA50420; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 21:27:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199909180427.VAA50420@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: 2xPIIIx450 results & NFS results In-Reply-To: <199909180235.TAA57506@apollo.backplane.com> from Matthew Dillon at "Sep 17, 1999 07:35:20 pm" To: dillon@apollo.backplane.com (Matthew Dillon) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 21:27:55 -0700 (PDT) Cc: niels@bakker.net (N), current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > :> I/O, and then closing it. > : > :4.0-CURRENT (SMP on an ASUS P2B-DS with two CPU's installed; BIOS revision > :1008.A, running `systat -vm 1' gives the normal display but without any > :numbers filled in, then switches over to an empty screen that says: > :... > > Whenever systat or top do weird things it probably means you > need to recompile libkvm. This is not a libkvm problem on my box, these are fresh make worlds on 3.3-RC as of 2 days ago. It only appears to occur when running SMP, and has been a problem in the past if you look at the cvs log for systat/vmstat.c. Search for the specific message given by this user in the log, you'll see it has come and gone at least once. I already sent one message out about this, in response to Jordans ``release tag going down''. -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 22:13:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from garnet.sover.net (garnet.sover.net [209.198.87.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 982D31550C for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 22:13:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adams@digitalspark.net) Received: from nightfall.digitalspark.net (arc0a335.bf.sover.net [209.198.83.243]) by garnet.sover.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA06575; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 01:13:04 -0400 (EDT) Comments: SoVerNet Verification (on garnet.sover.net) nightfall.digitalspark.net from arc0a335.bf.sover.net [209.198.83.243] 209.198.83.243 Sat, 18 Sep 1999 01:13:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 01:16:52 +0000 (GMT) From: Adam Strohl To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: Matthew Dillon , N , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2xPIIIx450 results & NFS results In-Reply-To: <199909180427.VAA50420@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've been getting this too on 4.0-C, just rebuild last night, still there. top displays: CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 0.0% idle AND loads > 2 make the machine very unresponsive, its like SMP was before that pci_support.c patch a month or two ago. - ----( Adam Strohl )------------------------------------------------ - - UNIX Operations/Systems http://www.digitalspark.net - - adams (at) digitalspark.net xxx.xxx.xxxx xxxxx - - ----------------------------------------( DigitalSpark.NET )------- - On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > :> I/O, and then closing it. > > : > > :4.0-CURRENT (SMP on an ASUS P2B-DS with two CPU's installed; BIOS revision > > :1008.A, running `systat -vm 1' gives the normal display but without any > > :numbers filled in, then switches over to an empty screen that says: > > :... > > > > Whenever systat or top do weird things it probably means you > > need to recompile libkvm. > > This is not a libkvm problem on my box, these are fresh make worlds > on 3.3-RC as of 2 days ago. It only appears to occur when running SMP, > and has been a problem in the past if you look at the cvs log for > systat/vmstat.c. Search for the specific message given by this > user in the log, you'll see it has come and gone at least once. > > I already sent one message out about this, in response to Jordans > ``release tag going down''. > > -- > Rod Grimes - KD7CAX - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Fri Sep 17 23:57:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mg136-146.ricochet.net (mg136-146.ricochet.net [204.179.136.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B00915552 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 23:56:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gurney_j@efn.org) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.fircrest.net (8.9.1/8.8.7) id XAA03072; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 23:28:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19990916232849.35971@hydrogen.fircrest.net> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 23:28:49 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: John Polstra Cc: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: An FS question perhaps... non blocking I/O. References: <000601befafb$83fbb8c0$291c453f@kbyanc.alcnet.com> <199909091954.PAA13059@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <199909121756.KAA38620@vashon.polstra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199909121756.KAA38620@vashon.polstra.com>; from John Polstra on Sun, Sep 12, 1999 at 10:56:42AM -0700 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Polstra scribbled this message on Sep 12: > In article <199909091954.PAA13059@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>, > Garrett Wollman wrote: > > [POLLEXTEND, POLLATTRIB, POLLNLINK, POLLWRITE] > > > It is probably undocumented. I was a bit reluctant to document it > > since I know that the interface is not correct. One of these days, > > I (or more likely some enterprising young hacker) will fix it. > > Just to avoid duplicated effort: I currently have work in progress > on a "fslog" pseudo-device. It enables you to monitor a filesystem > and receive notifications for all interesting changes to files and > directories. This includes reads, writes, renames, file creations, > unlinks, links, etc. -- anything that changes the stat(2) results > for a file, or causes directory entries to be created, destroyed, or > changed. The device itself is working, but so far I have implemented > the support for only a few of the event types. It won't take much > more work to finish it. ugh, why aren't you extending poll to work on files and directories to get this info?? it would make MUCH more sense to extend poll to do this.. any specific reason why it wasn't done this way? > My personal interest is to allow a CVSup master server to avoid > doing a tree walk whenever a client connects. I want to provide the > functionality of the old "supscan" utility, but in real time. I completely agree that something like this should be implemented.. then we can out shine winXX in where file managers have files appeare INSTANTLY after they are created... :) -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 541 684 8449 Cu Networking P.O. Box 5693, 97405 "The soul contains in itself the event that shall presently befall it. The event is only the actualizing of its thought." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Sep 18 0:55:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freja.webgiro.com (freja.webgiro.com [212.209.29.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5D9C14D09 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 00:55:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abial@webgiro.com) Received: by freja.webgiro.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D91051914; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 09:55:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freja.webgiro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D605A49D2; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 09:55:41 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 09:55:41 +0200 (CEST) From: Andrzej Bialecki To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: Matthew Dillon , N , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2xPIIIx450 results & NFS results In-Reply-To: <199909180427.VAA50420@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > :> I/O, and then closing it. > > : > > :4.0-CURRENT (SMP on an ASUS P2B-DS with two CPU's installed; BIOS revision > > :1008.A, running `systat -vm 1' gives the normal display but without any > > :numbers filled in, then switches over to an empty screen that says: > > :... > > > > Whenever systat or top do weird things it probably means you > > need to recompile libkvm. > > This is not a libkvm problem on my box, these are fresh make worlds > on 3.3-RC as of 2 days ago. It only appears to occur when running SMP, The problem seems to occur reliably on ASUS boards - perhaps a coincidence, but I have several machines here which behave this way. And yes, libkvm is in perfect sync with the rest of the system (3.3-RC) Andrzej Bialecki // WebGiro AB, Sweden (http://www.webgiro.com) // ------------------------------------------------------------------- // ------ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve. http://www.freebsd.org -------- // --- Small & Embedded FreeBSD: http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ ---- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Sep 18 4:56:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.xs4all.nl (smtp3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 081DF14F20 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 04:56:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from niels@bakker.net) Received: from liquid.tpb.net (arctic.xs4all.nl [194.109.37.82]) by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11806 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 13:56:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (niels@localhost) by liquid.tpb.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id NAA22425 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 13:56:39 +0200 Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 13:56:39 +0200 (CEST) From: N X-Sender: niels@liquid.tpb.net To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2xPIIIx450 results & NFS results In-Reply-To: <199909180235.TAA57506@apollo.backplane.com> Message-ID: <9909181351330.22408-100000@liquid.tpb.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matthew Dillon wrote: >> 4.0-CURRENT (SMP on an ASUS P2B-DS with two CPU's installed; BIOS revision >> 1008.A, running `systat -vm 1' gives the normal display but without any >> numbers filled in, then switches over to an empty screen that says: [..] > Whenever systat or top do weird things it probably means you > need to recompile libkvm. No. This is the `broken statclock' thingy that has to do with APM in ways I cannot fathom. ASUS broke this in P2B-DS BIOS revision 1008 or thereabouts. Patches have been posted to several mailing lists, I was wondering whether they've been committed somewhere along the line, and whether APM was safe for inclusion into a 4.0-CURRENT SMP kernel again. (Really, world and kernel are in sync, speed and duplex settings on the Ethernet card matches the switch, etc.) -- Niels. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Sep 18 5:33:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail-01.cdsnet.net (mail-01.cdsnet.net [206.107.16.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8867A14F20 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 05:33:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mrcpu@internetcds.com) Received: (qmail 3331 invoked from network); 18 Sep 1999 12:33:28 -0000 Received: from schizo.cdsnet.net (204.118.244.32) by mail.cdsnet.net with SMTP; 18 Sep 1999 12:33:28 -0000 Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 05:33:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Jaye Mathisen X-Sender: mrcpu@schizo.cdsnet.net To: Andrzej Bialecki Cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , Matthew Dillon , N , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2xPIIIx450 results & NFS results In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes, it definitely seems ASUS related... I dropped back to uni processor ASUS boards, and it's fine. didn't need the SMP anyway, just wanted to play with it some more. On Sat, 18 Sep 1999, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: > On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > > :> I/O, and then closing it. > > > : > > > :4.0-CURRENT (SMP on an ASUS P2B-DS with two CPU's installed; BIOS revision > > > :1008.A, running `systat -vm 1' gives the normal display but without any > > > :numbers filled in, then switches over to an empty screen that says: > > > :... > > > > > > Whenever systat or top do weird things it probably means you > > > need to recompile libkvm. > > > > This is not a libkvm problem on my box, these are fresh make worlds > > on 3.3-RC as of 2 days ago. It only appears to occur when running SMP, > > The problem seems to occur reliably on ASUS boards - perhaps a > coincidence, but I have several machines here which behave this way. And > yes, libkvm is in perfect sync with the rest of the system (3.3-RC) > > Andrzej Bialecki > > // WebGiro AB, Sweden (http://www.webgiro.com) > // ------------------------------------------------------------------- > // ------ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve. http://www.freebsd.org -------- > // --- Small & Embedded FreeBSD: http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ ---- > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Sep 18 7:52:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E63914F5A for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 07:52:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA60784; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 10:52:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 10:52:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <199909181452.KAA60784@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Adam Strohl Cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , Matthew Dillon , N , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2xPIIIx450 results & NFS results In-Reply-To: References: <199909180427.VAA50420@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG < said: > I've been getting this too on 4.0-C, just rebuild last night, still there. > top displays: > CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 0.0% > idle On my dual-PPro Intel BB440FX system I am not seeing this. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Sep 18 9:16:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freja.webgiro.com (freja.webgiro.com [212.209.29.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC4814F50 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 09:16:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abial@webgiro.com) Received: by freja.webgiro.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C2DFE1914; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 18:16:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freja.webgiro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFCAF49EC; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 18:16:00 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 18:16:00 +0200 (CEST) From: Andrzej Bialecki To: Jaye Mathisen Cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , Matthew Dillon , N , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2xPIIIx450 results & NFS results In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 18 Sep 1999, Jaye Mathisen wrote: > > Yes, it definitely seems ASUS related... I dropped back to uni processor > ASUS boards, and it's fine. didn't need the SMP anyway, just wanted to > play with it some more. Now, here's the difference - I don't play, I NEED SMP, and the machines in question are going to production soon... So, for me this is a real problem. Andrzej Bialecki // WebGiro AB, Sweden (http://www.webgiro.com) // ------------------------------------------------------------------- // ------ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve. http://www.freebsd.org -------- // --- Small & Embedded FreeBSD: http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ ---- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Sep 18 9:35:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D88C314F0A for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 09:35:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA52777; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 09:35:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199909181635.JAA52777@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: 2xPIIIx450 results & NFS results In-Reply-To: <199909181452.KAA60784@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> from Garrett Wollman at "Sep 18, 1999 10:52:27 am" To: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 09:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Cc: adams@digitalspark.net (Adam Strohl), dillon@apollo.backplane.com (Matthew Dillon), niels@bakker.net (N), current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > < said: > > > I've been getting this too on 4.0-C, just rebuild last night, still there. > > top displays: > > CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 0.0% > > idle > > On my dual-PPro Intel BB440FX system I am not seeing this. Do you have apm compiled in or not? Is it enabled or disabled? I'm trying to track this down this afternoon and can use all the data I can. -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Sep 18 12:14:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.tiscalinet.it (fornax.tiscalinet.it [195.130.224.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C290614D8E for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 12:14:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from knute@tiscalinet.it) Received: (qmail 10298 invoked by uid 7770); 18 Sep 1999 19:05:31 -0000 Received: from rm1-767.tiscalinet.it (HELO heartquake.tsv.it) (212.123.80.133) by fornax.tiscalinet.it with SMTP; 18 Sep 1999 19:05:31 -0000 From: "Andre" To: Subject: Multiport Card Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 23:15:49 +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990918191428.C290614D8E@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! I've just configured a couple of MultiPort Cards on my 3.2FreeBSD using sio driver. All works fine (Or so seems) but i got the following messages at boot: sio5: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0x8 sio5 at 0x2a8-0x2af flags 0x701 on isa sio5: type 16550A (multiport) and this for each port. What does it means? Anyone knows? Thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Sep 18 12:45:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A23F153E5 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 12:45:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA88111; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 13:45:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA06781; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 13:44:08 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199909181944.NAA06781@harmony.village.org> To: Andrzej Bialecki Subject: Re: 2xPIIIx450 results & NFS results Cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , Matthew Dillon , N , current@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 18 Sep 1999 09:55:41 +0200." References: Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 13:44:08 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Andrzej Bialecki writes: : The problem seems to occur reliably on ASUS boards - perhaps a : coincidence, but I have several machines here which behave this way. And : yes, libkvm is in perfect sync with the rest of the system (3.3-RC) We're seenig it too in the 19990815ish time frame. This is both with the 3.2R binaries AND the ones rebuilt and reinstalled. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Sep 18 13:55:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from ns.plaut.de (ns.plaut.de [194.39.177.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44FE814D9B for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 13:55:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@nihil.plaut.de) Received: from totum.plaut.de (totum.plaut.de [194.39.177.9]) by ns.plaut.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA05562; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 22:55:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from root@nihil.plaut.de) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by totum.plaut.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id WAA27473; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 22:55:46 +0200 (MET DST) (envelope-from root@nihil.plaut.de) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by nihil.plaut.de (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA64307; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 22:55:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from root@nihil.plaut.de) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 22:55:15 +0200 (CEST) From: Michael Reifenberger To: Warner Losh Cc: Andrzej Bialecki , "Rodney W. Grimes" , Matthew Dillon , N , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2xPIIIx450 results & NFS results In-Reply-To: <199909181944.NAA06781@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1620909851-937688115=:53132" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1620909851-937688115=:53132 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, > We're seenig it too in the 19990815ish time frame. This is both with > the 3.2R binaries AND the ones rebuilt and reinstalled. Saw it too on my ASUS P2B-DS (F.Rev.1008) Solved by a patch flooding around to /sys/i386/isa/clock.c But why? The patch is attached. Bye! ---- Michael Reifenberger Plaut Software GmbH, R/3 Basis --0-1620909851-937688115=:53132 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name=x Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=x LS0tIGNsb2NrLmMJU2F0IFNlcCAxOCAyMjo0MTo0MCAxOTk5DQorKysgY2xv Y2suYy5uZXcJU3VuIFNlcCAgNSAxMzoyMTozNSAxOTk5DQpAQCAtMjAzLDQg KzIwMyw2IEBADQogY2xraW50cihzdHJ1Y3QgY2xvY2tmcmFtZSBmcmFtZSkN CiB7DQorCXdoaWxlIChydGNpbihSVENfSU5UUikgJiBSVENJUl9QRVJJT0Qp DQorCQlzdGF0Y2xvY2soJmZyYW1lKTsNCiAJaWYgKHRpbWVjb3VudGVyLT50 Y19nZXRfdGltZWNvdW50ID09IGk4MjU0X2dldF90aW1lY291bnQpIHsNCiAJ CWRpc2FibGVfaW50cigpOw0K --0-1620909851-937688115=:53132-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Sep 18 14: 0: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from shell.monmouth.com (shell.monmouth.com [205.231.236.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 109E014F60 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 14:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pechter@shell.monmouth.com) Received: (from pechter@localhost) by shell.monmouth.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA22326 for freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 16:58:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill/Carolyn Pechter Message-Id: <199909182058.QAA22326@shell.monmouth.com> Subject: real audio crash To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 16:58:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems I'm not the only one seeing crashes involving Real Audio Streams. Interesting. I had a similar repeatable incident with the -current box crashing when running Real Audio/Video (ABC TV news) from my wife's box over the aliased user mode ppp connection over my 33.6. Going back to a ppp rev from late January or Early February fixed it. Is user mode ppp involved here with any one else? > Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:55:07 -0500 > From: "Matthew D. Fuller" > Subject: Panic (From -chat's Re: Real Audio program that discusses FreeBSD, solaris, and Linux) > > > http://www.thesync.com/etc/archives.html > > When I tried to view the program linked here, my -CURRENT system went > kablouie. > > - -- > Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net > Unix Systems Administrator | fullermd@futuresouth.com > Specializing in FreeBSD | http://www.over-yonder.net/ > FutureSouth Communications | ISPHelp ISP Consulting > > "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is because I > haven't figured out how to light the middle yet" > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:02:37 -0400 > From: "Sean O'Connell" > Subject: Re: Panic (From -chat's Re: Real Audio program that discusses FreeBSD, solaris, and Linux) > > hi- > > This looks awfully familiar to what rvplayer does to me on > my -current box. Of course, no one has responded at all ot > anything that I sent out... > > What kind of soundcard do you have? Mine is Crystal CS4236B > shipped with my box (a Digital 5510)... > > I tried sending an email to cameron grant (cg@freebsd.org), but I > have heard nothing. > > Sean O'Connell Email: sean@stat.Duke.EDU > Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Phone: (919) 684-5419 > Duke University Fax: (919) 684-8594 > +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Bill and/or Carolyn Pechter | pechter@shell.monmouth.com | | Bill Gates is a Persian cat and a monocle away from being a villain in | | a James Bond movie -- Dennis Miller | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Sep 18 14: 3: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD25714CBF for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 14:02:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA12844; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 23:00:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Michael Reifenberger Cc: Warner Losh , Andrzej Bialecki , "Rodney W. Grimes" , Matthew Dillon , N , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2xPIIIx450 results & NFS results In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 18 Sep 1999 22:55:15 +0200." Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 23:00:35 +0200 Message-ID: <12842.937688435@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , Michael R eifenberger writes: >Hi, >> We're seenig it too in the 19990815ish time frame. This is both with >> the 3.2R binaries AND the ones rebuilt and reinstalled. >Saw it too on my ASUS P2B-DS (F.Rev.1008) >Solved by a patch flooding around to /sys/i386/isa/clock.c But why? >The patch is attached. I remember this one too. I think the problem is that we fail to service the RTC intr for some reason. This patch was only a workaround, and received a verbal broadside from Bruce if I remember right. Maybe it should be added under a sysctl until a better solution is know. --- clock.c Sat Sep 18 22:41:40 1999 +++ clock.c.new Sun Sep 5 13:21:35 1999 @@ -203,4 +203,6 @@ clkintr(struct clockframe frame) { + while (rtcin(RTC_INTR) & RTCIR_PERIOD) + statclock(&frame); if (timecounter->tc_get_timecount == i8254_get_timecount) { disable_intr(); -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Sep 18 14:30: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2535714D59 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 14:29:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (adsl-216-62-157-60.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) by mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.05.24.18.28.p7) with ESMTP id <0FI900FEWYCYH9@mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net> for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 16:29:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA22468; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 16:29:33 -0500 (CDT envelope-from chris) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 16:29:33 -0500 From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: real audio crash In-reply-to: <199909182058.QAA22326@shell.monmouth.com> To: Bill/Carolyn Pechter Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19990918162933.E12328@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.6i References: <199909182058.QAA22326@shell.monmouth.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Sep 18, 1999, Bill/Carolyn Pechter wrote: > Is user mode ppp involved here with any one else? RealVideo stuff from http://www.broadcast.com/events/nasa (IIRC) caused my system to crash, and I'm not using PPP at all. I believe it's got something to do with newpcm. -- |Chris Costello |Programming just with goto's is like swatting flies with a sledgehammer. `------------------------------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Sep 18 16:42:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from isds.duke.edu (davinci.isds.duke.edu [152.3.22.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6BBE15078 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 16:42:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sto@stat.Duke.EDU) Received: from cayenne.isds.duke.edu (cayenne.isds.duke.edu [152.3.22.11]) by isds.duke.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA01361 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 19:42:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from sto@localhost) by cayenne.isds.duke.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA09660 for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 19:42:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990918194239.B9650@stat.Duke.EDU> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 19:42:39 -0400 From: "Sean O'Connell" To: FreeBSD current Subject: Re: real audio crash Reply-To: "Sean O'Connell" References: <199909182058.QAA22326@shell.monmouth.com> <19990918162933.E12328@holly.calldei.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <19990918162933.E12328@holly.calldei.com>; from Chris Costello on Sat, Sep 18, 1999 at 04:29:33PM -0500 X-Organization: Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 1999 Sep 18, Chris Costello (aka chris@calldei.com) wrote: > On Sat, Sep 18, 1999, Bill/Carolyn Pechter wrote: > > Is user mode ppp involved here with any one else? > > RealVideo stuff from http://www.broadcast.com/events/nasa > (IIRC) caused my system to crash, and I'm not using PPP at all. > I believe it's got something to do with newpcm. Chris- This has been my experience, too. What kind of soundcard do you have? Mine is Crystal CS4236B FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Sep 17 1999 00:55:11 Installed devices: pcm0: at io 0x530 irq 5 drq 0:1 (1/1 channels duplex) My crashes are over an ADSL line from home. S -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Sean O'Connell Email: sean@stat.Duke.EDU Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Phone: (919) 684-5419 Duke University Fax: (919) 684-8594 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Sep 18 16:56: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BACE614FE4 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 16:56:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (adsl-216-62-157-60.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.05.24.18.28.p7) with ESMTP id <0FIA002K4558G4@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 18:55:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA22956; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 18:56:03 -0500 (CDT envelope-from chris) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 18:56:02 -0500 From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: real audio crash In-reply-to: <19990918194239.B9650@stat.Duke.EDU> To: Sean O'Connell Cc: FreeBSD current Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19990918185602.F12328@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.6i References: <199909182058.QAA22326@shell.monmouth.com> <19990918162933.E12328@holly.calldei.com> <19990918194239.B9650@stat.Duke.EDU> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Sep 18, 1999, Sean O'Connell wrote: > Chris- > > This has been my experience, too. What kind of soundcard do > you have? Mine is Crystal CS4236B Sound Blaster 64. > > FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Sep 17 1999 00:55:11 > Installed devices: > pcm0: at io 0x530 irq 5 drq 0:1 (1/1 channels duplex) FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm) Sep 12 1999 18:08:28 Installed devices: pcm0: at io 0x220 irq 5 drq 1:5 (1/1 channels duplex) > My crashes are over an ADSL line from home. As is the case with mine. (PCI NE2000 type card -- Kingston KNE20BT) -- |Chris Costello |A bug in the code is worth two in the documentation. `---------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Sep 18 17: 4:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C2D14D35 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 17:04:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (adsl-216-62-157-60.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.05.24.18.28.p7) with ESMTP id <0FIA005PE5J1JW@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 19:04:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA23020; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 19:04:23 -0500 (CDT envelope-from chris) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 19:04:23 -0500 From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: real audio crash In-reply-to: <19990918185602.F12328@holly.calldei.com> To: Sean O'Connell Cc: FreeBSD current Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19990918190423.G12328@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.6i References: <199909182058.QAA22326@shell.monmouth.com> <19990918162933.E12328@holly.calldei.com> <19990918194239.B9650@stat.Duke.EDU> <19990918185602.F12328@holly.calldei.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Sep 18, 1999, Chris Costello wrote: > As is the case with mine. (PCI NE2000 type card -- Kingston > KNE20BT) KNE30BT. Typo. -- |Chris Costello |MIPS: Meaningless Indicator of Processor Speed. `------------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Sep 18 19:38:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles511.castles.com [208.214.165.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C08EA14D8A for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 19:38:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA21108; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 19:31:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199909190231.TAA21108@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: N Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2xPIIIx450 results & NFS results In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 18 Sep 1999 13:56:39 +0200." <9909181351330.22408-100000@liquid.tpb.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 19:31:18 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Matthew Dillon wrote:> thereabouts. Patches have been posted to several mailing lists, I was > wondering whether they've been committed somewhere along the line, and > whether APM was safe for inclusion into a 4.0-CURRENT SMP kernel again. APM and SMP are not functional in -current; this broke with the new BIOS call mechanism and I have not yet been able to fathom the nature of the problem. -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Sep 18 20:23:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.netplex.com.au [202.12.86.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ABAE1525E for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 20:23:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id E16941CA7; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 11:23:45 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Mike Smith Cc: N , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2xPIIIx450 results & NFS results In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 18 Sep 1999 19:31:18 MST." <199909190231.TAA21108@dingo.cdrom.com> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 11:23:45 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <19990919032345.E16941CA7@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Smith wrote: > > Matthew Dillon wrote:> thereabouts. Patches have been posted to several ma iling lists, I was > > wondering whether they've been committed somewhere along the line, and > > whether APM was safe for inclusion into a 4.0-CURRENT SMP kernel again. > > APM and SMP are not functional in -current; this broke with the new > BIOS call mechanism and I have not yet been able to fathom the nature > of the problem. According to Alan Cox (the Linux one), most APM BIOS implementations are fundamentally incompatable with SMP. (he said "all", not "most" actually). Using APM for anything more than "turn the box off" after shutting down all the AP's is going to be trouble, assuming he's right. Cheers, -Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Sep 18 20:41:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF7D615496 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 20:41:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id NAA98892; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 13:11:16 +0930 (CST) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 13:11:16 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Matthew Dillon Cc: Brad Knowles , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2xPIIIx450 results & NFS results (was More benchmarking stuff...) Message-ID: <19990919131116.L55065@freebie.lemis.com> References: <199909171658.JAA53751@apollo.backplane.com> <199909171817.LAA54393@apollo.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199909171817.LAA54393@apollo.backplane.com>; from Matthew Dillon on Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 11:17:48AM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday, 17 September 1999 at 11:17:48 -0700, Matthew Dillon wrote: > : Might I then request that you help rewrite it so that it performs > :a much more comprehensive testing of OS/filesystem throughput? > :Myself, I'd really love to see something that lets you seriously > :stress your system along the lines of Greg Lehey's rawio, but instead > :at a higher level. IMO, bonnie sucks worse than postmark, although > :they're measuring different things. > : > : Although it should certainly be forking, whether forking or not I > :can tell you that creating huge directories is not necessarily a bad > :simulation of a heavily-used mail server. I've seen mail servers > :with over 100,000 files in /var/spool/mqueue, both at former > :employers (like AOL), and at former customer sites (such as some of > :the largest freemail providers in the world). > > What we really need is something that generates a performance > curve based on several variables, including block size, locality of > reference (seek randomosity), amount of parallelism, locality of > parallelism (i.e. operating on same files vs different files), size of > dataset in bytes, and size of dataset in files. > > The program should dynamically mess with all the variables until it > gets a statistically relevant curve. > > I don't have the time to do it. Sniff! Sounds like rawio, sort of. It doesn't do files, though. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Sep 18 22:13: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E93C314D07 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 22:13:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (iras-2-2.ucdavis.edu [169.237.16.130]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA55809; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 22:13:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id WAA64037; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 22:13:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 22:13:02 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Brad Knowles Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NetApp PostMark ported to FreeBSD? Message-ID: <19990918221302.A52628@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre1i In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Anybody know if this ever got ported to FreeBSD? It has now. See /usr/ports/benchmarks/postmark/ -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Sep 18 22:55:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from pike.sover.net (pike.sover.net [209.198.87.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CC98151D3 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 22:55:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adams@digitalspark.net) Received: from nightfall.digitalspark.net (arc0a291.bf.sover.net [209.198.83.199]) by pike.sover.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA24752; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 01:55:17 -0400 (EDT) Comments: SoVerNet Verification (on pike.sover.net) nightfall.digitalspark.net from arc0a291.bf.sover.net [209.198.83.199] 209.198.83.199 Sun, 19 Sep 1999 01:55:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 01:59:04 +0000 (GMT) From: Adam Strohl To: Garrett Wollman Cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , Matthew Dillon , N , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2xPIIIx450 results & NFS results In-Reply-To: <199909181452.KAA60784@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OK, Upgraded my Asus P2B-D machien from BIOS version 1008 to 1010, the problem disappeared. Popped back to my old 1008 BIOS, problem came back. Looks like there was some wierd issue that got resolved in 1009 or 1010. - ----( Adam Strohl )------------------------------------------------ - - UNIX Operations/Systems http://www.digitalspark.net - - adams (at) digitalspark.net xxx.xxx.xxxx xxxxx - - ----------------------------------------( DigitalSpark.NET )------- - On Sat, 18 Sep 1999, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > > > I've been getting this too on 4.0-C, just rebuild last night, still there. > > top displays: > > CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 0.0% > > idle > > On my dual-PPro Intel BB440FX system I am not seeing this. > > -GAWollman > > -- > Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same > wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom > Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame > MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Sep 18 23:25:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54BB815045 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 23:25:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA54133; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 23:25:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199909190625.XAA54133@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: 2xPIIIx450 results & NFS results In-Reply-To: from Adam Strohl at "Sep 19, 1999 01:59:04 am" To: adams@digitalspark.net (Adam Strohl) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 23:25:20 -0700 (PDT) Cc: wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (Garrett Wollman), dillon@apollo.backplane.com (Matthew Dillon), niels@bakker.net (N), current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > OK, Upgraded my Asus P2B-D machien from BIOS version 1008 to 1010, the > problem disappeared. Popped back to my old 1008 BIOS, problem came back. So far about alls I have confirmed is that the problem does not exists with BIOS 1009 when the apm code is not compiled into the kernel. I'll have a full matrix of with/without apm 1008/1009/1010 some time tomarrow, as the machines are building there system disks now. > Looks like there was some wierd issue that got resolved in 1009 or 1010. > > On Sat, 18 Sep 1999, Garrett Wollman wrote: > > > > I've been getting this too on 4.0-C, just rebuild last night, still there. > > > top displays: > > > CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 0.0% > > > idle > > > > On my dual-PPro Intel BB440FX system I am not seeing this. > > -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-current Sat Sep 18 23:28:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from garnet.sover.net (garnet.sover.net [209.198.87.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5661214C9D for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 23:28:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adams@digitalspark.net) Received: from nightfall.digitalspark.net (arc0a291.bf.sover.net [209.198.83.199]) by garnet.sover.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA23017; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 02:28:11 -0400 (EDT) Comments: SoVerNet Verification (on garnet.sover.net) nightfall.digitalspark.net from arc0a291.bf.sover.net [209.198.83.199] 209.198.83.199 Sun, 19 Sep 1999 02:28:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 02:31:58 +0000 (GMT) From: Adam Strohl To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: Garrett Wollman , Matthew Dillon , N , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2xPIIIx450 results & NFS results In-Reply-To: <199909190625.XAA54133@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 18 Sep 1999, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > So far about alls I have confirmed is that the problem does not exists > with BIOS 1009 when the apm code is not compiled into the kernel. I'll > have a full matrix of with/without apm 1008/1009/1010 some time tomarrow, > as the machines are building there system disks now. Sounds good. Is there a way to detect the BIOS revision on boot or something and either warn (ie; Say "Update yer BIOS!") or install a work around? - ----( Adam Strohl )------------------------------------------------ - - UNIX Operations/Systems http://www.digitalspark.net - - adams (at) digitalspark.net xxx.xxx.xxxx xxxxx - - ----------------------------------------( DigitalSpark.NET )------- - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message