, and the answers are the different <para>s. E.g., <sect1> <title>What are the goals of FreeBSD?

From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 15 4:10:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA7C14FC6; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 04:10:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id EAA15936; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 04:10:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 04:10:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199908151110.EAA15936@freefall.freebsd.org> To: phantom@cris.net, mpp@FreeBSD.org, mpp@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13144: Many manual pages not conformed mdoc(7) style. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Many manual pages not conformed mdoc(7) style. State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: mpp State-Changed-When: Sun Aug 15 04:00:35 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: 99% of the supplied patch was applied, thanks a lot!!! I made some minor corrections while doing all of this. Some were related to the patch, some were just other things I noticied while reviewing the patch. I changed the xrefs that you changed to /usr/ports// back to ".Xr portname #", but I listed them with a header that said they are part of the ports collection. These do need to be handled better, but until then, I think this is the best alternative. I didn't apply any of the patches to the src/contrib directory. These were all style fixes, and didn't change the resulting output. These should be fixed by the original author, which should propogate to our sources sooner or later. Making FreeBSD specific style changes to contrib software just makes it harder to import new versions. Thanks for all of your work on this. Responsible-Changed-From-To: mpp->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: mpp Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Aug 15 04:00:35 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 15 9:11:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49DF615137 for ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 09:11:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id JAA97393; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 09:10:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.yk.rim.or.jp (mail.yk.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5E9A15137 for ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 09:08:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp) Received: from localhost (ppp921.yk.rim.or.jp [202.247.185.172]) by mail.yk.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.6W-RIMNET-98-06-09) with ESMTP id BAA10928 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 01:08:22 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <19990816010752J.k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 01:07:52 +0900 From: horikawa@jp.freebsd.org Reply-To: horikawa@jp.freebsd.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/13153: fdc.4 has typo (a line which begin with ' disappears) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13153 >Category: docs >Synopsis: fdc.4 has typo (a line which begin with ' disappears) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Aug 15 09:10:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Kazuo Horikawa >Release: FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386 >Organization: jpman project >Environment: src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/fdc.4 Revision 1.11.2.1 (RELENG_3) and 1.12 (HEAD) >Description: fdc.4 source code contains following portion describing 'partitions': [snip] In /dev for each floppy device a number of minor devices are present. The /dev/fd* devices with trailing alphabetic characters are used to indicate 'partitions' on the floppy disk. The /dev/fd*. are devices that [snip] However, when I type `$man 4 fdc', following is output and description about 'partitions' disappears: [snip] DESCRIPTION This driver provides access to floppy disk drives and QIC40/80 tapedrives. In /dev for each floppy device a number of minor devices are present. The /dev/fd* devices with trailing alphabetic characters are used to indicate indicate the size of the floppy disk (so: 720kB, 1440kB etc). The latter are used for formatting disks using fdformat or for ac- [snip] This is because ' at the beginning of line is treated as special character. >How-To-Repeat: $ man 4 fdc >Fix: (1) Insert \& between ' and the beginning of line, or (2) Use Sq macro instead of ''. Following patch is for (2): --- fdc.4.bak Mon Aug 16 00:45:45 1999 +++ fdc.4 Mon Aug 16 00:48:32 1999 @@ -41,7 +41,8 @@ This driver provides access to floppy disk drives and QIC40/80 tapedrives. In /dev for each floppy device a number of minor devices are present. The /dev/fd* devices with trailing alphabetic characters are used to indicate -'partitions' on the floppy disk. The /dev/fd*. are devices that +.Sq partitions +on the floppy disk. The /dev/fd*. are devices that indicate the size of the floppy disk (so: 720kB, 1440kB etc). The latter are used for formatting disks using fdformat or for accessing different density disks in multidensity drive. Example: 720kB disk in a 1.44Mb drive. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 15 9:40:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88FDF14F61 for ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 09:40:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id JAA01634; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 09:40:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 09:40:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199908151640.JAA01634@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: "Alexey M. Zelkin" Subject: Re: docs/13144: [PATCH] lots of style patches for -mdoc manpages Reply-To: "Alexey M. Zelkin" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/13144; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Alexey M. Zelkin" To: mpp@mpp.pro-ns.net (Mike Pritchard) Cc: phantom@cris.net, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docs/13144: [PATCH] lots of style patches for -mdoc manpages Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 19:27:05 +0400 (MSD) hi, > > >Number: 13144 > > I am working on translation man pages to russian language and found > > a lot of style inconsistenses. > > > > Patch is huge. More than 180 pages were updated. > > > > What's changed ? > > > > main points: > > . -mdoc style fixes (according to mdoc(7)) > > 99.9% of these of these looked good. I've got the 2 or 3 bad ones written > down. Which ones exactly ? > > additional points: > > . Correcting Section Headers names (like AUTHOR -> AUTHORS). See mdoc(7) for > > complete list correct headers. > > Since there are so many of these man pages out there, I'm almost thinking > that we should add document that it is OK to use these. However, > I did notice that some of the ones you updated had multiple authors > listed, so people are are forgetting to change AUTHOR to AUTHORS when > adding a second person to the author list. But if we fix them all > now, and just keep an eye on all new man pages, it shouldn't > be a problem again in the future. hmm ... maybe I'll improve my script which checked these inconsistenses and submit it (something like portlint). Then we just can add note to mdoc(7) as requrement to check new/updated manpages with that ? And maybe once per month check all manpages in source tree ? I don't think that adding new, but with same meaning section headers names to style guide is good way. > Then there are the man pages in contrib/. I would leave the style > things alone in those man pages and request that the author fix > them. That will make importing new versions of these easier. Ok, I will send them to bind(8) mainteiner. > > . few references like "(1) (yet another port)" expanded to > > "/usr/ports//". Maybe it's good idea to do it with all > > same references, e.g. gated(1),portlint(1) ? It will make references more > I've been toying with the idea of adding a ".Pr" macro (ports reference). > > E.g. > > .Pr gated 1 > > Would expand to something like: > > gated(1) (from the portse collection) It's really that I asked for! > I suppose we could also do: > .Pr gated 1 net Sure. > gated(1) (from the ports net collection) -- Sincerely Yours, | phantom@crimea.edu (primary) Alexey Zelkin | phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua (home) | ICQ: #6196584, FIDO: 2:460/12.26 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 15 13:27:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1627815395 for ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 13:27:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA20312; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 21:18:18 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01913; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 20:31:29 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 20:31:28 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Mark Ovens Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Finding the .SGML files for the FAQ Message-ID: <19990814203128.A1184@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990814174403.A491@marder-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990814174403.A491@marder-1>; from Mark Ovens on Sat, Aug 14, 1999 at 05:44:03PM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Aug 14, 1999 at 05:44:03PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > Where can I find the SGML files for the FAQ? I intend to update > one of the pages and reading the Doc Project info on the web-site > says that SGML is the preferred format so I intend to use that, > however I can only find HTML files and the diff (,v) files in the > CVS repository (I don;t use CVS so don't know fully how this works). > > Can someone point me in the right direction please. How are you downloading the CVS repository? If you've only got the src/ repository then you haven't got the right bits -- the FAQ used to be in the src/ tree, but it was pulled out in to its own repository (doc/) a year or two ago. If you have downloaded the doc/ repository then it's in doc/FAQ/. . . N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 15 15:26:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0059D14CF3 for ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 15:26:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA37306 for doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 23:24:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 23:24:31 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: FAQ / Handbook on FTP site updated Message-ID: <19990815232431.A30574@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks, While I'm waiting for JDP to finish the CVS repo changes, I've updated the copies of the Handbook that are on ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/ I hope to have this process automated by the end of the week, so that they're always up to date. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 15 15:33:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B2214D96; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 15:33:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA37935; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 23:29:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 23:29:20 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: John Polstra Cc: committers@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: doc tree is FROZEN Message-ID: <19990815232919.A37655@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from John Polstra on Sun, Aug 15, 1999 at 08:24:59AM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Aug 15, 1999 at 08:24:59AM -0700, John Polstra wrote: > The doc tree is frozen until further notice. Please don't make any > commits there (unless your name is Nik Clayton). Thanks to John, the major repo changes have now happened. However, it's now 11.30pm over here (i.e., in the UK) and I'm on the early shift tomorrow. So, as planned, the commits to bring the doc/ Makefiles back into shape will be happening tomorrow evening (roughly 22 hours after this e-mail was written). In the meantime, the doc/ tree is still frozen. Thanks for your patience. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 15 16:34:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sand2.global.net.uk (sand2.global.net.uk [195.147.246.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 651A614C06 for ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 16:34:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marko@globalnet.co.uk) Received: from p14s13a06.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.221.21] helo=marder-1.) by sand2.global.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11G9ng-00035T-00; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 00:34:52 +0100 Received: (from marko@localhost) by marder-1. (8.9.2/8.8.8) id AAA00286; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 00:28:02 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from marko) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 00:28:02 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Jesus Rodriguez Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Finding the .SGML files for the FAQ Message-ID: <19990816002802.A270@marder-1> References: <19990814174403.A491@marder-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: ; from Jesus Rodriguez on Sat, Aug 14, 1999 at 07:37:06PM +0200 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Aug 14, 1999 at 07:37:06PM +0200, Jesus Rodriguez wrote: > > On 14-Aug-99 Mark Ovens wrote: > > Where can I find the SGML files for the FAQ? I intend to update > > one of the pages and reading the Doc Project info on the web-site > > says that SGML is the preferred format so I intend to use that, > > however I can only find HTML files and the diff (,v) files in the > > CVS repository (I don;t use CVS so don't know fully how this works). > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/doc/FAQ/ > Thanks, got it. > Saludos > JesusR. > -- FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ _______________________________________________________________ Mark Ovens, CNC Apps Engineer, Radan Computational Ltd. Bath UK CAD/CAM solutions for Sheetmetal Working Industry mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 15 16:42: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailsorter-105-1.bryant.webtv.net (mailsorter-105-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.198.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68FD14C06 for ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 16:41:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lennyinlowell@webtv.net) Received: from postoffice-212.iap.bryant.webtv.net (postoffice-212.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.199.104]) by mailsorter-105-1.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.gso.08Dec97) with ESMTP id QAA19221; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 16:40:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from production@localhost) by postoffice-212.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/po.gso.24Feb98) id QAA22922; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 16:40:55 -0700 (PDT) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAoR6fnkAlnMeerMvfujw8NCzAa6cCFH639pIscZkKQjcWIVIbZCbpU0cX From: lennyinlowell@webtv.net (Leonard Belmarce) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 19:40:54 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20373-37B75006-6650@postoffice-212.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 15 17:27:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sand.global.net.uk (sand.global.net.uk [195.147.248.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71B7314FBE; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 17:27:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marko@globalnet.co.uk) Received: from p14s13a06.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.221.21] helo=marder-1.) by sand.global.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11GAcn-0008Vi-00; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 01:27:42 +0100 Received: (from marko@localhost) by marder-1. (8.9.2/8.8.8) id BAA00476; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 01:20:59 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from marko) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 01:20:59 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Finding the .SGML files for the FAQ Message-ID: <19990816012059.C270@marder-1> References: <19990814174403.A491@marder-1> <19990814203128.A1184@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <19990814203128.A1184@kilt.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Sat, Aug 14, 1999 at 08:31:28PM +0100 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Aug 14, 1999 at 08:31:28PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Sat, Aug 14, 1999 at 05:44:03PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > > Where can I find the SGML files for the FAQ? I intend to update > > one of the pages and reading the Doc Project info on the web-site > > says that SGML is the preferred format so I intend to use that, > > however I can only find HTML files and the diff (,v) files in the > > CVS repository (I don;t use CVS so don't know fully how this works). > > > > Can someone point me in the right direction please. > > How are you downloading the CVS repository? If you've only got the src/ > repository then you haven't got the right bits -- the FAQ used to be in the > src/ tree, but it was pulled out in to its own repository (doc/) a year or > two ago. > I'm not doing it by CVS. Someone else replied with a URL, ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/doc/FAQ/ , so I've ftp'd it from there. Thanks. > If you have downloaded the doc/ repository then it's in doc/FAQ/. . . > > N > -- > [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, > non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs > the links. > -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> > -- FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ _______________________________________________________________ Mark Ovens, CNC Apps Engineer, Radan Computational Ltd. Bath UK CAD/CAM solutions for Sheetmetal Working Industry mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Aug 15 23:41:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from service.nsk.su (service.nsk.su [212.20.0.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7B4414D14 for ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 23:41:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mefody@online.nsk.su) Received: from rinet.nsk.su (root@rinet.nsk.su [212.20.0.126]) by service.nsk.su (8.8.8/T.1) with ESMTP id NAA10600 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 13:40:07 +0700 (NOVST) Received: from novoselovspc (ppp033.online.nsk.su [212.20.1.33]) by rinet.nsk.su (8.8.8/T.1) with SMTP id NAA17475 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 13:40:05 +0700 (NOVST) X-Authentication-Warning: rinet.nsk.su: Host ppp033.online.nsk.su [212.20.1.33] claimed to be novoselovspc Message-ID: <000201bee7ba$b22a4300$210114d4@novoselovspc> From: "Mike Novoselov" To: Subject: install back-ups software Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 13:37:34 +0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi ! I am using APC Back-UPS 280 VA . Software from Ported Applications (bkpupsd) don't work properly with him. What i can do ? Where i can find soft for back-ups ? Mike Novoselov. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 16 8:18: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pop2.tky.3web.ne.jp (pop2.tky.3web.ne.jp [202.235.209.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 213FD14E60 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 08:17:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from moris@tky2.3web.ne.jp) Received: from mx2.tky.3web.ne.jp (tky017.tky.3web.ne.jp [202.235.210.49]) by pop2.tky.3web.ne.jp (8.8.8+2.7Wbeta7/3.7W-99073118) with SMTP id AAA28853 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 00:18:17 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 00:18:17 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199908161518.AAA28853@pop2.tky.3web.ne.jp> From: =?iso-2022-jp?B?WXVrbyBLYXNoaXdhemFraQ==?= To: =?iso-2022-jp?B?ZnJlZWJzZC1kb2NARnJlZUJTRC5PUkc=?= Subject: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCPWkkYSReJDckRiEiR3A6aiRIPz0kNyReJDkhIxsoQg==?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset= "ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org $B=i$a$^$7$F!"%$%*%s%IBg3X$NGp:j!!M5;R$H?=$7$^$9!#(B $B%$%*%s%IBg3X!!L>M@Gn;N!!?dA&0Q0w2q@_N)$N$*CN$i$;$,$"$j(B $B$^$7$F!"%a!<%k$rCW$7$^$7$?!#(B $B$3$NEY!"(BIOND University$B!J%O%o%$=#G'2D!"(BWAUC$B2CLA!K$G$O!"(B $BF|K\$N3F3&$K$*$$$FB?Bg$J$kM@Gn;N9f$rM@Gn;N?dA&0Q0wBP>](B $B!!!!!!#2(B. $BG/NpITLd!"3XNrITLd(B $B!!!!!!#3(B. $B?H853NM@Gn;N$r?dA&$7!"K\3X$N3X0L!K$K$h$j@5<07hDj$7$^$9!#L>M@Gn;N9f]e$K$7$F!"3F3&$K$*$$$F==J,$J8y@S$r;D$5$l6H(B $B!!!!!!!!!!3&$H0JFb!#(B $B!!!!!!#2(B. $B3XLdE*!"$"$k$$$OJ88%E*$K==J,$JA&$rLd$$$^$;$s$N$G!"1sN8$J$/$4O"Mm2<$5$$!#(B $BO"MmJ}K!$O%a!<%k$K$F$h$m$7$/$*4j$$CW$7$^$9!#(B ********************************************* Yuko Kashiwazaki E-Mail:moris@tky2.3web.ne.jp Faculty Recruiting Department of IOND University URL:http://member.nifty.ne.jp/Iond_Univ/ ********************************************* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 16 11: 3:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C8181503A for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 11:03:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA90661 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 11:02:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 11:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199908161802.LAA90661@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- f [1999/08/05] docs/12988 doc [Patch] Fix more occurances of 'sd' in FA o [1999/08/11] docs/13088 doc Handbook lists support for Adaptec 2930, 2 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a [1998/07/31] docs/7456 doc dialog(3) man page outdated a [1998/08/31] docs/7791 doc ipf(1) and ipfstat(1) should have been ip o [1998/09/13] docs/7914 doc no elf(5) manpage o [1998/10/25] docs/8445 doc Update of "Installing Mathematica on Free o [1999/02/14] docs/10084 doc new FreeBSD user group in Yogyakarta City o [1999/02/14] docs/10085 doc NIS Setup Tutorial o [1999/02/14] docs/10098 doc Lack of overall guide for NIS setup o [1999/02/21] docs/10182 doc http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?p o [1999/02/25] docs/10240 doc We need a script which check if our web m o [1999/03/18] docs/10664 doc Notes on 2.2.8 -> 3.1 migration o [1999/03/29] docs/10850 doc submitting a documentation change for sed o [1999/04/07] docs/10997 doc Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi o [1999/04/21] docs/11258 doc suggestion to refine npx.4 o [1999/06/01] docs/11978 doc timed(8) manpage does not define '-F' swi o [1999/07/13] docs/12625 doc Update links for French o [1999/07/13] docs/12627 doc update the French FreeBSD Documentation P o [1999/07/15] docs/12657 doc Handbook on ftp mirrors is old... o [1999/07/17] docs/12684 doc Correction to your website for ZNYX Corp. o [1999/07/22] bin/12767 doc Expand /etc/ttys manpage o [1999/08/03] docs/12940 doc make world translated to French o [1999/08/04] docs/12951 doc missing link to japanese mailing list gui o [1999/08/04] docs/12969 doc Informacion incorrecta para versiones Fre o [1999/08/05] docs/12985 doc small change to ccdconfig man page o [1999/08/08] docs/13034 doc incorrect (old/obsolete) manpage for name o [1999/08/11] docs/13079 doc new man page describing timeradd() family o [1999/08/12] docs/13093 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/FAQ.sgml o [1999/08/12] docs/13094 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/acknowledgments.sg o [1999/08/12] docs/13095 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/admin.sgml o [1999/08/12] docs/13096 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/applications.sgml o [1999/08/12] docs/13097 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/commercial.sgml o [1999/08/12] docs/13098 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/hackers.sgml o [1999/08/12] docs/13099 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/hardware.sgml o [1999/08/12] docs/13100 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/install.sgml o [1999/08/12] docs/13101 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/kernelconfig.sgml o [1999/08/12] docs/13102 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/misc.sgml o [1999/08/12] docs/13103 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/preface.sgml o [1999/08/12] docs/13104 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/serial.sgml o [1999/08/12] docs/13105 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/troubleshoot.sgml o [1999/08/12] docs/13106 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/x.sgml o [1999/08/12] docs/13107 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/network.sgml o [1999/08/13] docs/13116 doc typo in ms(7) o [1999/08/14] docs/13134 doc A typo in ax.4 manual pages o [1999/08/15] docs/13153 doc fdc.4 has typo (a line which begin with ' 43 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Aug 16 14: 1: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B5D1551D; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:00:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA96842; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 21:05:38 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 21:05:36 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: committers@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: doc tree is FROZEN Message-ID: <19990816210535.A96418@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Reply-To: nik@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from John Polstra on Sun, Aug 15, 1999 at 08:24:59AM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks, [-committers, -doc, reply-to: me] On Sun, Aug 15, 1999 at 08:24:59AM -0700, John Polstra wrote: > The doc tree is frozen until further notice. Please don't make any > commits there (unless your name is Nik Clayton). The tree is still frozen. To keep everyone in the loop; The recent commits get the Makefile infrastructure partway working. They do the right thing, but the install directory is hardcoded in some Makefiles. This hardcoding will disappear when the various language translations of the FAQ are converted to DocBook, and use the new Makefile framework. ETA for that is end of the week. You are encouraged to download the doc/ repository and try various combinations of "make" and "make install". I'd like to know where it blows up. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 2:12: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B68371564A for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:11:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id CAA58998; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 3C48D14DE7; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:01:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <19990817090135.3C48D14DE7@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:01:35 -0700 (PDT) From: eagle@phc.igs.net To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/13192: Bad info in handbook/kernelconfig Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13192 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Bad info in handbook/kernelconfig >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Aug 17 02:10:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Robert Garrett >Release: 4.0 - current >Organization: >Environment: >Description: The handbook chapter on building the kernel suggest that if config wont rebuild your kernel you update just config... this is bogus >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/home/ncvs/doc/en/handbook/kernelconfig/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.18 diff -r1.18 chapter.sgml 118,127c118 < < < If you are trying to upgrade your kernel from an older version of < FreeBSD, you will probably have to get a new version of < &man.config.8; from the same place you got the new kernel sources. < It is located in /usr/src/usr.sbin, so you will < need to download those sources as well. Re-build and install it < before running the next commands. < < --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 2:12:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9691815656 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:11:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id CAA59016; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 4C66C14F4E; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:06:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <19990817090612.4C66C14F4E@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:06:12 -0700 (PDT) From: eagle@phc.igs.net To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/13194: Bad info in handbook/kernelconfig Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13194 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Bad info in handbook/kernelconfig >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Aug 17 02:10:02 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Robert Garrett >Release: 4.0 - current >Organization: >Environment: >Description: The handbook chapter on building the kernel suggest that if config wont rebuild your kernel you update just config... this is bogus >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/home/ncvs/doc/en/handbook/kernelconfig/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.18 diff -u -r1.18 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml 1999/08/05 20:48:14 1.18 +++ chapter.sgml 1999/08/17 08:56:03 @@ -115,16 +115,7 @@ overwhelming to you, so follow the descriptions in the Configuration File section slowly and carefully. - - - If you are trying to upgrade your kernel from an older version of - FreeBSD, you will probably have to get a new version of - &man.config.8; from the same place you got the new kernel sources. - It is located in /usr/src/usr.sbin, so you will - need to download those sources as well. Re-build and install it - before running the next commands. - - + When you are finished, type the following to compile and install your kernel: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 2:26:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A721E14E34 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:19:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id MAA03896; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:15:24 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id MAA01500; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:05:23 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199908170805.MAA01500@scorpion.crimea.ua> Subject: Re: docs/13144: [PATCH] lots of style patches for -mdoc manpages In-Reply-To: <199908142213.RAA00881@mpp.pro-ns.net> from Mike Pritchard at "Aug 14, 99 05:13:34 pm" To: mpp@mpp.pro-ns.net (Mike Pritchard) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:05:23 +0400 (MSD) Cc: doc@freebsd.org From: "Alexey M. Zelkin" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, > > . few references like "(1) (yet another port)" expanded to > > "/usr/ports//". Maybe it's good idea to do it with all > > same references, e.g. gated(1),portlint(1) ? It will make references more > > .Xr > > is illegal, and is going to cause man page checking scripts to choke. > I've been toying with the idea of adding a ".Pr" macro (ports reference). I see that toying is continue. When you planing to add this macro to main source tree ? Or it just was an idea ? -- Sincerely Yours, | phantom@crimea.edu (primary) Alexey Zelkin | phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua (home) | ICQ: #6196584, FIDO: 2:460/12.26 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 2:33:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mpp.pro-ns.net (mpp.pro-ns.net [208.200.182.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99B0C14E34 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:33:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@mpp.pro-ns.net) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by mpp.pro-ns.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA15706; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 04:31:24 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mpp) From: Mike Pritchard Message-Id: <199908170931.EAA15706@mpp.pro-ns.net> Subject: Re: docs/13144: [PATCH] lots of style patches for -mdoc manpages In-Reply-To: <199908170805.MAA01500@scorpion.crimea.ua> from "Alexey M. Zelkin" at "Aug 17, 1999 12:05:23 pm" To: phantom@cris.net (Alexey M. Zelkin) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 04:31:24 -0500 (CDT) Cc: doc@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > . few references like "(1) (yet another port)" expanded to > > > "/usr/ports//". Maybe it's good idea to do it with all > > > same references, e.g. gated(1),portlint(1) ? It will make references more > > > > .Xr > > > > is illegal, and is going to cause man page checking scripts to choke. > > I've been toying with the idea of adding a ".Pr" macro (ports reference). > > I see that toying is continue. When you planing to add this macro > to main source tree ? Or it just was an idea ? I'm going to try and come up with something this week since I should have some time. I'm thinking of adding two new macros: .Pr - ports reference .Ur - URL reference, since we have more and more URL references showing up in our man pages. I'll pass these around for review when I'm ready, since I would like to get this stuff into the system before the next code freeze coming up. -Mike -- Mike Pritchard mpp@FreeBSD.ORG or mpp@mpp.pro-ns.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 2:36:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE1315696; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:36:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jim@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id CAA62155; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:35:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:35:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199908170935.CAA62155@freefall.freebsd.org> To: eagle@phc.igs.net, jim@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13192: Bad info in handbook/kernelconfig Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Bad info in handbook/kernelconfig State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jim State-Changed-When: Tue Aug 17 02:32:32 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Duplicate of docs/13194 only in a different format. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 2:58:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mpp.pro-ns.net (mpp.pro-ns.net [208.200.182.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 285FA14DB1; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:58:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@mpp.pro-ns.net) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by mpp.pro-ns.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA30252; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 04:58:50 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mpp) From: Mike Pritchard Message-Id: <199908170958.EAA30252@mpp.pro-ns.net> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/bin/test Makefile test.1 test.c operators.c operators.h In-Reply-To: <199908160944.CAA29606@freefall.freebsd.org> from Sheldon Hearn at "Aug 16, 1999 02:44:11 am" To: sheldonh@FreeBSD.org (Sheldon Hearn) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 04:58:50 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > sheldonh 1999/08/16 02:44:09 PDT > > Modified files: > bin/test Makefile test.1 test.c > Removed files: > bin/test operators.c operators.h > Log: > Replace our test(1) with NetBSD's pdksh-derived version. The code is > significantly easier to read and extend and offers a few new tests. > A few style changes taken from style(9) and OpenBSD, as well as > whitespace cleanups. > > This change was discussed on freebsd-committers and freebsd-hackers > and met with approval from at least des, eivind and brian. A little after the fact, but... One of the objections raised when this was first proposed was about people using the extensions and then getting bit if the moved to another platform. The new man page documents that it is a superset of POSIX.2. Perhaps all of the non-standard features should be split off into their own section that states that they are extensions to the standard, and may cause portability problems. The same applies to ls(1). It is also a "superset" of POSIX. It might be nice if our man pages actually documented what options might not be portable to other platforms. I'm sure we have other utilities that this would apply to. -Mike -- Mike Pritchard mpp@FreeBSD.ORG or mpp@mpp.pro-ns.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 3:10:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F40C614DA4 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 03:10:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11GgBD-00025l-00; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:09:19 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Mike Pritchard Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/bin/test Makefile test.1 test.c operators.c operators.h In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 17 Aug 1999 04:58:50 EST." <199908170958.EAA30252@mpp.pro-ns.net> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:09:19 +0200 Message-ID: <8044.934884559@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 17 Aug 1999 04:58:50 EST, Mike Pritchard wrote: > bit if the moved to another platform. The new man page documents that > it is a superset of POSIX.2. Perhaps all of the non-standard features > should be split off into their own section that states that they are > extensions to the standard, and may cause portability problems. Would you be satisfied with listing extended options under STANDARDS, or were you thinking of something more ambitious? Either way, I'd need to look at the POSIX standard, which will be a problem, since I hear it's a money-thing. :-( Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 3:35:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 548D715601 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 03:33:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id NAA04952; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:31:56 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id NAA01991; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:01:38 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199908170901.NAA01991@scorpion.crimea.ua> Subject: Re: docs/13144: [PATCH] lots of style patches for -mdoc manpages In-Reply-To: <199908170931.EAA15706@mpp.pro-ns.net> from Mike Pritchard at "Aug 17, 99 04:31:24 am" To: mpp@mpp.pro-ns.net (Mike Pritchard) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:01:38 +0400 (MSD) Cc: doc@freebsd.org From: "Alexey M. Zelkin" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, > I'm going to try and come up with something this week since I should > have some time. I'm thinking of adding two new macros: > > .Pr - ports reference > .Ur - URL reference, since we have more and more URL references > showing up in our man pages. Probably you can add ".Br" also. Since SEE ALSO section has Book References. It will make cross references style more strict. > I'll pass these around for review when I'm ready, since I would > like to get this stuff into the system before the next code > freeze coming up. -- Sincerely Yours, | phantom@crimea.edu (primary) Alexey Zelkin | phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua (home) | ICQ: #6196584, FIDO: 2:460/12.26 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 3:35:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mpp.pro-ns.net (mpp.pro-ns.net [208.200.182.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CFFD14C46 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 03:35:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@mpp.pro-ns.net) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by mpp.pro-ns.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA77750; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 05:33:58 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mpp) From: Mike Pritchard Message-Id: <199908171033.FAA77750@mpp.pro-ns.net> Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/bin/test Makefile test.1 test.c operators.c operators.h In-Reply-To: <8044.934884559@axl.noc.iafrica.com> from Sheldon Hearn at "Aug 17, 1999 12:09:19 pm" To: sheldonh@uunet.co.za (Sheldon Hearn) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 05:33:58 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Tue, 17 Aug 1999 04:58:50 EST, Mike Pritchard wrote: > > > bit if the moved to another platform. The new man page documents that > > it is a superset of POSIX.2. Perhaps all of the non-standard features > > should be split off into their own section that states that they are > > extensions to the standard, and may cause portability problems. > > Would you be satisfied with listing extended options under STANDARDS, or > were you thinking of something more ambitious? Either way, I'd need to > look at the POSIX standard, which will be a problem, since I hear it's a > money-thing. :-( I was thinking something along the lines of adding the text under the DESCRIPTION section. E.g.: DESCRIPTION ...[lots of text] -x file ... The following options are extensions to the whatever-standard and may not be portable to other platforms: file1 -nt file2 True if ..... That way you don't have to read all the way down to then end of the man page to figure out that you are using something non-standard. Yes, getting a copy of the POSIX standard is a money thing. Maybe we can get a group rate if enough of us want to buy a copy (I have no idea). If you are working on on-line manuals for commands/syscalls/libraries, you need a copy just to be sure you are documenting things correctly. I've been ready to break down and spend the money for a while now, so I'll probably do it now. In the past I've always passed these things off to review to someone I knew had a copy of the standard :-). -Mike -- Mike Pritchard mpp@FreeBSD.ORG or mpp@mpp.pro-ns.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 3:44:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mpp.pro-ns.net (mpp.pro-ns.net [208.200.182.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C03914DBE for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 03:44:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@mpp.pro-ns.net) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by mpp.pro-ns.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA89351; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 05:43:40 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mpp) From: Mike Pritchard Message-Id: <199908171043.FAA89351@mpp.pro-ns.net> Subject: Re: docs/13144: [PATCH] lots of style patches for -mdoc manpages In-Reply-To: <199908170901.NAA01991@scorpion.crimea.ua> from "Alexey M. Zelkin" at "Aug 17, 1999 01:01:38 pm" To: phantom@cris.net (Alexey M. Zelkin) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 05:43:40 -0500 (CDT) Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > hi, > > > I'm going to try and come up with something this week since I should > > have some time. I'm thinking of adding two new macros: > > > > .Pr - ports reference > > .Ur - URL reference, since we have more and more URL references > > showing up in our man pages. > > Probably you can add ".Br" also. Since SEE ALSO section has Book References. > It will make cross references style more strict. Books/magazines/articles already have their own macros. Refer to the %* macros in mdoc(7). If there are man pages out there that reference books/articles without using those macros, then they need to be fixed. -Mike -- Mike Pritchard mpp@FreeBSD.ORG or mpp@mpp.pro-ns.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 3:52:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B91214EB0 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 03:52:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id DAA67777; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 03:50:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9CBE14EA6 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 03:43:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id NAA05128 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:44:51 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id NAA02280; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:37:26 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199908170937.NAA02280@scorpion.crimea.ua> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:37:26 +0400 (MSD) From: "Alexey M. Zelkin" Reply-To: "Alexey M. Zelkin" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/13197: aio_*(2) are not installing by make installworld Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13197 >Category: docs >Synopsis: aio_*(2) not installing by make installworld >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Aug 17 03:50:02 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Alexey Zelkin >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT >Organization: Home >Environment: Makefile.inc: $Id: Makefile.inc,v 1.66 1999/07/31 22:00:09 bde Exp $ >Description: aio_*(2) manpages were added by wes@ to source tree, but forgoten to enable them to install. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: Makefile.inc =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/CVSROOT/src/lib/libc/sys/Makefile.inc,v retrieving revision 1.66 diff -c -r1.66 Makefile.inc *** Makefile.inc 1999/07/31 22:00:09 1.66 --- Makefile.inc 1999/08/17 09:34:21 *************** *** 74,79 **** --- 74,80 ---- .if ${LIB} == "c" MAN2+= _exit.2 accept.2 access.2 acct.2 adjtime.2 aio_read.2 \ + aio_cancel.2 aio_error.2 aio_return.2 aio_suspend.2 aio_write.2 \ bind.2 brk.2 chdir.2 chflags.2 \ chmod.2 chown.2 chroot.2 clock_gettime.2 close.2 \ connect.2 dup.2 execve.2 \ >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 3:56:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE10E14DBE for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 03:56:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11Ggti-0002GM-00; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:55:18 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Mike Pritchard Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/bin/test Makefile test.1 test.c operators.c operators.h In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 17 Aug 1999 05:33:58 EST." <199908171033.FAA77750@mpp.pro-ns.net> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:55:18 +0200 Message-ID: <8701.934887318@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 17 Aug 1999 05:33:58 EST, Mike Pritchard wrote: > Yes, getting a copy of the POSIX standard is a money thing. :-( Okay, I don't even have a clue where to look to get pricing. Ideas? By the way, at what point do we stop worrying about POSIX compliance and start boasting about our XPG4 compliance? :-) Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 4: 2:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B774514F62; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 04:02:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id EAA68525; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 04:00:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 04:00:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199908171100.EAA68525@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mpp@FreeBSD.org, jkh@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13148: PATCH: reality check for sysinstall.8 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: PATCH: reality check for sysinstall.8 State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: mpp State-Changed-When: Tue Aug 17 03:59:09 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: The man page was updated to reflect the fact that sysinstall didn't go away in 3.1. Your patch was applied with some slight modification. Thanks for pointing this out!@ Responsible-Changed-From-To: jkh->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: mpp Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Aug 17 03:59:09 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 4: 4:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 195A414F72; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 04:04:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id EAA71005; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 04:02:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 04:02:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199908171102.EAA71005@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mpp@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, mpp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13197: aio_*(2) not installing by make installworld Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: aio_*(2) not installing by make installworld Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->mpp Responsible-Changed-By: mpp Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Aug 17 04:01:26 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take care of this one, since I was just about to do this for -stable, but didn't notice that it wasn't even being done in -current :-( To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 4:17:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B2A014F72; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 04:16:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id OAA05610; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:16:28 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id NAA02471; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:55:24 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199908170955.NAA02471@scorpion.crimea.ua> Subject: automount.8 To: obrien@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:55:24 +0400 (MSD) Cc: doc@freebsd.org From: "Alexey M. Zelkin" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, I see that am-utils staff added into FreeBSD tree without removing of automount.8 (as described in src/contrib/amd/FREEBSD-upgrade). But some tools in am-utils are referencing to automount(8) tool. What you propose ? Should this reference be removed or maybe it's other level problem ? -- Sincerely Yours, | phantom@crimea.edu (primary) Alexey Zelkin | phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua (home) | ICQ: #6196584, FIDO: 2:460/12.26 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 4:52:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 632E215655 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 04:52:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id EAA73868; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 04:50:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 04:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199908171150.EAA73868@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Sheldon Hearn Subject: Re: docs/13194: Bad info in handbook/kernelconfig Reply-To: Sheldon Hearn Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/13194; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Sheldon Hearn To: Robert Garrett Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/13194: Bad info in handbook/kernelconfig Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:42:49 +0200 > The handbook chapter on building the kernel suggest that if config wont > rebuild your kernel you update just config... > > this is bogus If that's what the handbook said, I'd agree that it's bogus. But it doesn't. The manpage says that you'll probably need a new config to build a new kernel. It doesn't mention breakage at all in the paragraphs you're complaining about. I think it's good advice, since a mismatched config can often cause breakage. We're not saying that it's the _only_ cause of breakage. May I close your PR? Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 11: 8: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5630E14D10; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:08:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA55819; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:07:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:07:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199908171807.LAA55819@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13093: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/FAQ.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/FAQ.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Tue Aug 17 11:06:37 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 11: 9: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E6F14D10; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:09:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA55973; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:07:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:07:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199908171807.LAA55973@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13094: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/acknowledgments.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/acknowledgments.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Tue Aug 17 11:07:16 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 11:14:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7006214D10; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:14:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA56210; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:11:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:11:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199908171811.LAA56210@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13095: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/admin.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/admin.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Tue Aug 17 11:10:45 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 11:15:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02AC31574C; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:15:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA56401; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:12:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:12:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199908171812.LAA56401@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13097: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/commercial.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/commercial.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Tue Aug 17 11:12:26 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 11:15:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 046CA1575B; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:15:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA56601; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:14:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:14:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199908171814.LAA56601@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13098: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/hackers.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/hackers.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Tue Aug 17 11:13:50 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 11:18:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1C11577E; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:18:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA56824; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:16:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:16:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199908171816.LAA56824@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13099: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/hardware.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/hardware.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Tue Aug 17 11:16:43 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 11:22:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A094914D01; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:22:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA57236; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:20:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:20:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199908171820.LAA57236@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13100: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/install.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/install.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Tue Aug 17 11:18:57 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 11:23:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88ED115749; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:23:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA57515; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:22:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:22:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199908171822.LAA57515@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13101: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/kernelconfig.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/kernelconfig.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Tue Aug 17 11:21:42 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 13:54:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sand2.global.net.uk (sand2.global.net.uk [195.147.246.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4113B157BB for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:53:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marko@globalnet.co.uk) Received: from pd1s10a06.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.218.210] helo=marder-1.) by sand2.global.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11GqE1-0004X7-00 for doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 21:52:54 +0100 Received: (from marko@localhost) by marder-1. (8.9.2/8.8.8) id VAA00636 for doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 21:46:05 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from marko) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 21:46:05 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Warning when making FAQ Message-ID: <19990817214604.C269@marder-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've just been making some mods to the FAQ (the SGML source) and when I make(1) it I get the following warning: marder-1# make && make install sgmlfmt -f html -links /usr/src/doc/FAQ/FAQ.sgml sgmlfmt -f latin1 -links /usr/src/doc/FAQ/FAQ.sgml sgmlfmt -f ascii -links /usr/src/doc/FAQ/FAQ.sgml FAQ.trf:7890: warning: can't find special character `:i' FAQ.trf:7890: warning: can't find special character `:i' but there is no file FAQ.trf in /usr/src/doc/FAQ, is it a temporary file and is the warning anything to worry about? BTW, I notice that the index page for the FAQ is still titled: Frequently Asked Questions for FreeBSD 2.X and also states: This is the FAQ for FreeBSD systems version 2.X All entries are assumed to be relevant to FreeBSD 2.0.5 and later,....... is this intentional? It gives the impression that it is out of date. Should it be changed to ``3.X'' or, because of the reference to 2.0.5, ``2.X and 3.X''? -- FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ _______________________________________________________________ Mark Ovens, CNC Apps Engineer, Radan Computational Ltd. Bath UK CAD/CAM solutions for Sheetmetal Working Industry mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 14:11:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8AAE156EE for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:11:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA71406; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from sand2.global.net.uk (sand2.global.net.uk [195.147.246.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80431157A8 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:08:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marko@globalnet.co.uk) Received: from pd1s10a06.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.218.210] helo=marder-1.) by sand2.global.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11GqTG-0005Bn-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:08:38 +0100 Received: (from marko@localhost) by marder-1. (8.9.2/8.8.8) id WAA00912; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:01:50 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from marko) Message-Id: <199908172101.WAA00912@marder-1.> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:01:50 +0100 (BST) From: Mark Ovens Reply-To: marko@globalnet.co.uk To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/13208: Correct typo in FAQ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13208 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Correct typo in FAQ >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Aug 17 14:10:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Mark Ovens >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386 >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD marder-1 3.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE #3: Wed Jun 30 00:59:48 BST 1999 marko@marder-1:/usr/src/sys/compile/MARDER-1 i386 >Description: Correct a typo in section 4.17. My machine prints "calcru: negative time..." of the FAQ >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Apply the following diff and re-make. *** troubleshoot.sgml.orig Tue Aug 17 21:37:55 1999 --- troubleshoot.sgml Tue Aug 17 21:38:09 1999 *************** *** 479,485 **** relating to interrupts. It may be due to bugs but can also happen by nature of certain devices. Running TCP/IP over the parallel port using a large MTU is one good way to provoke this problem. ! Graphics accelleratorscan also get you here, in which case you should check the interrupt setting of the card first.

A side effect of this problem are dying processes with the --- 479,485 ---- relating to interrupts. It may be due to bugs but can also happen by nature of certain devices. Running TCP/IP over the parallel port using a large MTU is one good way to provoke this problem. ! Graphics accelerators can also get you here, in which case you should check the interrupt setting of the card first.

A side effect of this problem are dying processes with the >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 14:11:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29EEF157C8 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:11:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA71397; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from sand.global.net.uk (sand.global.net.uk [195.147.248.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29EA9157F3 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:06:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marko@globalnet.co.uk) Received: from pd1s10a06.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.218.210] helo=marder-1.) by sand.global.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11GqQQ-00007a-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:05:42 +0100 Received: (from marko@localhost) by marder-1. (8.9.2/8.8.8) id VAA00787; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 21:58:27 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from marko) Message-Id: <199908172058.VAA00787@marder-1.> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 21:58:27 +0100 (BST) From: Mark Ovens Reply-To: marko@globalnet.co.uk To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/13207: Update to the FAQ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13207 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Update to the FAQ >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Aug 17 14:10:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Mark Ovens >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386 >Organization: >Environment: FreeBSD marder-1 3.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE #3: Wed Jun 30 00:59:48 BST 1999 marko@marder-1:/usr/src/sys/compile/MARDER-1 i386 >Description: Update to section 8.7 "How can I use the NT loader to boot FreeBSD?" of the FAQ >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Apply the following diff and re-make. *** admin.sgml.orig Sun Aug 15 18:36:22 1999 --- admin.sgml Mon Aug 16 20:45:01 1999 *************** *** 193,198 **** --- 193,201 ---- How can I use the NT loader to boot FreeBSD? +

The procedure is slightly different for 2.2.x and 3.x (with the + 3-stage boot) systems. +

The general idea is that you copy the first sector of your native root FreeBSD partition into a file in the DOS/NT partition. Assuming you name that file something like *************** *** 210,218 **** C:\="DOS" !

This procedure assumes that DOS, NT, FreeBSD, or whatever ! have been installed into their respective fdisk partitions on the ! !

For 2.2.x systems this procedure assumes that DOS, NT, FreeBSD, ! or whatever have been installed into their respective fdisk partitions ! on the If FreeBSD is booting from the MBR, restore it with the DOS ``For 3.x systems the procedure is somewhat simpler. + +

If FreeBSD is installed on the /boot/boot1 to + c:\bootsect.bsd or if FreeBSD is installed on + a /boot/boot0 to + c:\bootsect.bsd. Then edit the + c:\boot.ini file as described above. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 14:20:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0E214FDA; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:20:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA72288; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:19:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:19:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199908172119.OAA72288@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13102: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/misc.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/misc.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Tue Aug 17 14:19:08 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 14:21:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E42C14FC2; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:20:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA72357; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:19:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:19:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199908172119.OAA72357@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13103: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/preface.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/preface.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Tue Aug 17 14:19:38 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 14:21:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C40C156EE for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:21:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA72419; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:20:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199908172120.OAA72419@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Mark Ovens Subject: Re: docs/13207: Update to the FAQ Reply-To: Mark Ovens Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/13207; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Mark Ovens To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/13207: Update to the FAQ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:12:28 +0100 send-pr(1) got the Originators e-mail address wrong. Should be mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 14:24:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C96A15658; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:24:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA72538; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:21:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:21:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199908172121.OAA72538@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13104: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/serial.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/serial.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Tue Aug 17 14:21:04 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 14:25:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FCE3157C3; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:25:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA72803; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:24:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:24:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199908172124.OAA72803@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13105: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/troubleshoot.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/troubleshoot.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Tue Aug 17 14:21:47 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 14:29: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D5CD14CC5; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:28:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA73043; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:26:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:26:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199908172126.OAA73043@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13106: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/x.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/x.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Tue Aug 17 14:25:47 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 14:31:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9FC14DD9; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:31:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA73388; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:29:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:29:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199908172129.OAA73388@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13107: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/network.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/network.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Tue Aug 17 14:28:01 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: COmmitters, thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 14:31:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38C2114DD9 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:31:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA73435; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199908172130.OAA73435@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Mark Ovens Subject: Re: docs/13208: Correct typo in FAQ Reply-To: Mark Ovens Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/13208; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Mark Ovens To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: docs/13208: Correct typo in FAQ Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:14:54 +0100 send-pr(1) got the Originators e-mail address wrong. Should be mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 14:40:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36FCC157F7; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:40:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA89171; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:39:37 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:39:36 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: committers@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: CVS oddities Message-ID: <19990817223936.A88836@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks, I'm running into some oddities with some of my CVS commits not making it to the repository, which is a little odd[1], so the doc/ work is taking a little longer than expected. Sorry 'bout that. Things should be as normal by the tomorrow night (assuming tomorrow morning's CVSup goes OK) N [1] Not sure why -- my ISP connection has been a tad flaky recently, causing my line to drop on and off. But, I have a static IP address, so that *shouldn't* be the cause. Perhaps it was the eclipse? -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 14:41: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05BB7157EC for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:41:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA74247; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59D6215820 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:32:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id AAA13135 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 00:34:16 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id WAA05445; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:26:14 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199908171826.WAA05445@scorpion.crimea.ua> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:26:14 +0400 (MSD) From: "Alexey M. Zelkin" Reply-To: "Alexey M. Zelkin" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/13210: device_add_child_after.9 is obsolete Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13210 >Category: docs >Synopsis: device_add_chils_after.9 is obsolete >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Aug 17 14:40:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Alexey Zelkin >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT >Organization: Home >Environment: -current about two days ago >Description: Depending on rev. 1.2 of device_add_child.9 and quick look on kernel sources replace device_add_child_after with device_add_child_ordered. Seems what dfr@FreeBSD.org (author of rev.1.2) forgotten to update everything except SYNOPSIS and DESCRIPTION sections ;) >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/CVSROOT/src/share/man/man9/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.48 diff -c -r1.48 Makefile *** Makefile 1999/06/22 18:09:54 1.48 --- Makefile 1999/08/17 17:43:12 *************** *** 79,85 **** MLINKS+=vref.9 VREF.9 MLINKS+=vslock.9 vsunlock.9 ! MLINKS+=device_add_child.9 device_add_child_after.9 MLINKS+=device_enable.9 device_disable.9 MLINKS+=device_enable.9 device_is_enabled.9 MLINKS+=device_get_state.9 device_busy.9 --- 79,85 ---- MLINKS+=vref.9 VREF.9 MLINKS+=vslock.9 vsunlock.9 ! MLINKS+=device_add_child.9 device_add_child_ordered.9 MLINKS+=device_enable.9 device_disable.9 MLINKS+=device_enable.9 device_is_enabled.9 MLINKS+=device_get_state.9 device_busy.9 Index: device.9 =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/CVSROOT/src/share/man/man9/device.9,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -c -r1.3 device.9 *** device.9 1999/08/15 10:48:31 1.3 --- device.9 1999/08/17 17:43:46 *************** *** 55,61 **** .Xr device_get_parent 9 ). In addition, any device can have children attached to it (see .Xr device_add_child 9 , ! .Xr device_add_child_after 9 , .Xr device_find_child 9 , and .Xr device_delete_child 9 ). --- 55,61 ---- .Xr device_get_parent 9 ). In addition, any device can have children attached to it (see .Xr device_add_child 9 , ! .Xr device_add_child_ordered 9 , .Xr device_find_child 9 , and .Xr device_delete_child 9 ). Index: device_add_child.9 =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/CVSROOT/src/share/man/man9/device_add_child.9,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -c -r1.3 device_add_child.9 *** device_add_child.9 1999/08/15 10:48:31 1.3 --- device_add_child.9 1999/08/17 17:39:55 *************** *** 33,39 **** .Os FreeBSD .Sh NAME .Nm device_add_child , ! .Nm device_add_child_after .Nd add a new device as a child of an existing device .Sh SYNOPSIS .Fd #include --- 33,39 ---- .Os FreeBSD .Sh NAME .Nm device_add_child , ! .Nm device_add_child_ordered .Nd add a new device as a child of an existing device .Sh SYNOPSIS .Fd #include >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 15:17: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88A9514E73 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:16:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA93570 for doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:12:04 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:12:04 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: DocBook FAQ available for critique Message-ID: <19990817231204.B89707@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Folks, The DocBook'd FAQ is available for critique at http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/faq/index.html Replace index.html with book.{ps,pdf,html,txt} to get various other formats. The formatting is not final, and there are a number of issues to thrash out (for example, "What is the purpose of this FAQ?" is listed as a numbered question). But this is the beginning of the end. . . for LinuxDoc![1] N [1] Cue maniacal laughter. -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 15:17:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3271A14E85 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:16:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA90480 for doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:49:25 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:49:25 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: HEADS UP: DocBook FAQ translations required ASAP Message-ID: <19990817224925.A89707@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Converting the FAQ to DocBook IMPORTANT: The doc/ tree is *still* frozen. The only commits allowed in doc/ at the moment are from (a) me, (b) a nominated member of one of the translation teams, carrying out the instructions below. The tree will be thawed as soon as possible, which basically means when this work is carried out. Translators -- with the repo-change almost complete, it's imperative that we migrate the FAQs in the repository to DocBook, and to their correct place in the repository, as soon as possible. First, let me emphasise that this task is (a) not too difficult, and (b) not too time consuming. I did it today in about 3 hours, which includes the time spent to write this documentation. If you're familiar with Emacs you should be able to do this in under two hours. The steps to do the conversion are as follows (ignore the "book.sgml.nn" comments -- those are the points when I copied "book.sgml" to a new filename to keep a copy of my work so far, just in case I made mistakes -- although feel free to use them to indicate convenient places to checkpoint your work as well, or as convenient places to commit your changes -- note that the filename is *always* book.sgml, and not book.sgml.2 or similar). * You need to convert the LinuxDoc FAQ to DocBook, and place it in the correct place in your repository tree. Your FAQ is in doc//FAQ/*, and it should be stored in doc//books/faq/. If at all in doubt, use the English FAQ as a guide. [ is one of the new repo-directories, such as es_ES.ISO_8859-1 or ja_JP.eucJP, *not* the 'es' or 'ja' directories ] In order to do the conversion you need instant(1) installed. This is part of sgmlfmt(1), which you should have installed anyway for the legacy Doc. Proj. stuff, so there should be no problems. The commands to run are % cvs checkout doc % cd doc//books % mkdir faq % cvs add faq % cd FAQ % nsgmls -c /usr/local/share/sgml/linuxdoc/catalog FAQ.sgml | \ instant -t /usr/local/share/sgml/transpex/linuxdoc-docbook.ts > \ ../books/faq/book.sgml That gives you a "book.sgml" in the right place that you can commit to the tree. * Alter the DOCTYPE, so that is now using the FreeBSD exensions to DocBook (book.sgml.2) * Put in a Makefile to allow you to build other versions of the FAQ. You can copy the English Makefile (making suitable modifications to the MAINTAINER line as necessary) with no ill effects. * Adding a QAndASet framework. DocBook 3.1 has the elements. The conversion will have marked up each question in its own , where the text of the question is the , and the answers are the different <para>s. E.g., <sect1> <title>What are the goals of FreeBSD? ... Groups of questions are chunked into s. What we want is a chapter bracketing a element. Each question is indicated by a element, which can in turn contain and elements (which can then contain s, and so on). In other words, we want to end up with this (ignore the indentation for a moment). Networking and foo How do I do foo? You do foo by doing bar, followed by baz. ... ... To change this, do the following: ("S/R" == search and replace) 1. Just before (and after) each element starts and ends, include "" and "" S/R " "" -> "" This will leave some bogus elements in place, don't worry, they get removed at a later stage. book.sgml.3 2. Convert each "" to a "" pair. Leave the trailing ">" off when you do the S/R, so that things like get turned in to S/R " " (except for those in the preamble, and attached to ) to a . S/R " " (except for those in the preamble, and attached to ) to a "" triple. S/R "" -> "" book.sgml.6 5. Convert each to a pair. S/R "" -> "" book.sgml.7 6. Remove the extra s that been added. If you're using Emacs then do a regexp search for \s-+ and replace it with \n\n to retain the newlines. book.sgml.8 Commit at this point. Now start fixing up the SGML validation errors. Most of these are because the original FAQ didn't stick to the Q/A format it should have. There are three problems you will need to fix before this is ready to go live. 1. "Micron systems hang at boot time" is marked as . This section should be redesignated. In the English version, this looks like === Workarounds for specific hardware problems This section contains workarounds for specific hardware problems encountered by our users. Micron systems hang at boot time Certain Micron motherboards have a non-conforming PCI BIOS implementation that causes grief when FreeBSD boots because PCI devices don't get configured at their reported addresses. Disable the "Plug and Play Operating System" flag in the BIOS to work around this problem. More information can be found at http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/vortex.html#micron === Which is very strange. Remove the sentance starting at "Workarounds...", and all the text (including markup) up to "Micron systems...". Then reword the question to "My Micron system hangs..." Remove the trailing , and now it makes sense as a question. If in doubt, use the CVS logs to see the differences in the English version. book.sgml.9 Commit at this point. 2. Embedded in the "Networking" chapter is a large section about PPP, that has appeared as a collection of (and ) marked up sections. This is a pain to deal with, so I've taken a somewhat simpler route. All the contiguous PPP questions in this section have been taken out en masse, and put in their own chapter, that comes between chapter 10 ("Networking") and the old chapter 11 ("Serial Communications"). This is quite handy, because (a) PPP is part way between these two topics anyway, and (b) there is a wealth of PPP information hidden in the FAQ, but the old organisation stuck it all behind one question ("I can't make PPP work, what am I doing wrong?"). This new approach is easy to manage, a little more consistent, and makes the PPP information much more visible to the average user idly scanning the FAQ. So, to duplicate what I did in your translations of the FAQ. 1. Find the '' line (it's two lines in the converted doc. This marks the start of the PPP section. 2. Find the end, which is the '' line just before the "I can't create a /dev/ed0 device!" question. 3. Select all this text in your editor, and cut it out of that section. 4. Move to the beginning of the "Serial Communications" chapter, and paste this text in between the two chapters. 5. Add a "PPP" and "" line to the top and bottom of the newly pasted section, respectively. book.sgml.10 6. Go back to the search and replaces you did earlier, (but from the 2nd entry, not the first). Redo them, but looking for where previously you looked for . 7. As the last step, but look for instead. This almost fixes things up adequately. The old entries should probably be itemised lists in the final output, but we can fix that up later. The important thing to do at the moment is get something that builds sufficiently well that it can be put up on the website. At this point, you should be able to type "make" and get a formatted version of the FAQ out. There should be no validation errors, but there will be some XREF errors -- these are fairly harmless, and can be ignored for the time being. If there are validation errors it probably means you've ommitted an element. Use "make validate" to get a list of just the errors, and you can use "C-c C-o" in Emacs to move to the areas of the document that have problems. If you've still got problems, drop me a line, and I'll take a look at it. book.sgml.12 3. The Biblio information at the start of the FAQ is wrong, which means that it doesn't appear properly on the generated files. Specifically, you can just remove the "" and "" lines at the top of the file. book.sgml.13 That's it! OK, there's still a lot of work to do, particularly in changing the markup choices to something more useful. But the work you've just done is enough to get the DocBook'd FAQ in a state where it's ready (IMHO) to go on the Web, and replace the LinuxDoc version (and the crowd goes wild :-) ). When you've done the above, and you're happy with it, please do one of the following; - If you're a translation team with commit privs, commit to the correct place in the tree. The only two files you should be committing are doc//books/faq/book.sgml doc//books/faq/Makefile do not commit anything else. In particular (and no offense) please wait for me to test it before you remove the LinuxDoc FAQ from your tree, or turn on the books/faq directory in the Makefiles, thanks. - If you're a translation team that hasn't got commit privs yet (and if you are, fixing that is one of my priorities when all this hassle is over) then e-mail me the book.sgml you've generated (run it through gzip(1) or bzip(1) first though please) and I'll commit it ASAP. If you're going to be doing the conversion of a translated FAQ, please let me know, so I can keep track of who's doing what. Thanks. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 15:31: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E0F14E85; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:30:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 966131C29; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:31:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C87B3823; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:31:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:31:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DocBook FAQ available for critique In-Reply-To: <19990817231204.B89707@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: > The DocBook'd FAQ is available for critique at .1. I'd like to customize my kernel. Is it difficult? Is the '.1.' because this is an outline? -- - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 15:31:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub.ncsa.es (mailhub.ncsa.es [194.179.50.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0B214E85; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:31:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@chuck.jerocu.net) Received: from chuck.jerocu.net (chuck.jerocu.net [194.224.235.59]) by mailhub.ncsa.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA19577; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 00:34:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from jesusr@localhost) by chuck.jerocu.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA09840; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 00:32:30 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990817224925.A89707@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 00:32:30 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: jesusr@ncsa.es Organization: Nexus Comunicaciones, S.A. From: Jesus Rodriguez To: Nik Clayton Subject: RE: HEADS UP: DocBook FAQ translations required ASAP Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 17-Aug-99 Nik Clayton wrote: > If you're going to be doing the conversion of a translated FAQ, please let > me know, so I can keep track of who's doing what. Thanks. Me for spanish FAQ, from tomorrow morning (spanish time). Saludos JesusR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 15:44:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub.ncsa.es (mailhub.ncsa.es [194.179.50.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC8F14D08; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:44:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@chuck.jerocu.net) Received: from chuck.jerocu.net (chuck.jerocu.net [194.224.235.59]) by mailhub.ncsa.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA19596; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 00:47:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from jesusr@localhost) by chuck.jerocu.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA09854; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 00:45:51 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 00:45:51 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: jesusr@ncsa.es Organization: Nexus Comunicaciones, S.A. From: Jesus Rodriguez To: Bill Fumerola Subject: Re: DocBook FAQ available for critique Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, Nik Clayton Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 17-Aug-99 Bill Fumerola wrote: > On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: > >> The DocBook'd FAQ is available for critique at > > .1. I'd like to customize my kernel. Is it difficult? > > Is the '.1.' because this is an outline? And is possible remark (bold or some thing else) the questions into the text?. It's difficult reconigze where begins and ends every question. Saludos JesusR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 16:31:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F92A1585B; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:30:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@stampede.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id SAB21699; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:31:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca44-42.ix.netcom.com(209.111.212.170) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma021657; Tue Aug 17 18:30:47 1999 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.6.9) id QAA52174; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:28:23 -0700 (PDT) To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: DocBook FAQ translations required ASAP References: <19990817224925.A89707@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> From: asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) Date: 17 Aug 1999 16:28:22 -0700 In-Reply-To: Nik Clayton's message of "Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:49:25 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 12 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * From: Nik Clayton * Translators -- with the repo-change almost complete, it's imperative that * we migrate the FAQs in the repository to DocBook, and to their correct * place in the repository, as soon as possible. Hey, why didn't you say something about this before? Freezing the tree and then bringing up stuff like this is really bad planning. :< Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 16:42: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53DDE14E48 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:42:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA82706; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id C864514E48; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <19990817233637.C864514E48@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:36:37 -0700 (PDT) From: sobomax@altavista.net To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/13211: [LIST] Some man pages has references to nonexisting pages. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13211 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [LIST] Some man pages has references to nonexisting pages. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Aug 17 16:40:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Maxim Sobolev >Release: 4.0-CURRENT >Organization: Vega International Capital >Environment: doesn't really matters >Description: Following is the list of man pages which contains references to nonexisting other manuals. In collumn 1 is the man page on which bad reference found, in collumn 2 is the reffered page (nonexistant obviously) and in column 3 is my guess of what should be insted (when it was possible). Probably some of these references is "work in progress", however for me it is hard to tell exactly. Man Page Bad Reference Possible Replacement -------------------------------------------------------------------- bus_generic_map_intr(9) BUS_MAP_INTR(9) security(7) accton(1) accton(8) amd(8) automount(8) camcontrol(8) cam(9) sh(1) case(1) cam(3) ccb(4) error(1) ccom(1) mount_cd9660 cdcontrol(8) cdcontrol(1) sb(4) cdplay(1) fe(4) crd(4) amq(8) ctl-amd(8) cx(4) cxconfig(8) aliases(5) dbm(3) sio(4) dca(4) device_add_child(9) device_add_child_ordered(9) device_quiet(9) device_detach(9) device(9) device_get_parent(9) intro(6) dm(8) restore(8) dumpdir(8) el(4) eg(4) edquota(8) fstab(2) fstab(5) config(8) gdb(8) gdb(1) vnode(9) getnewvnode(9) natd(8) getservbyname(2) getservbyname(3) time(9) gettime(9) routed(8) htable(8) inet(4) igmp(4) install-info(1) info(1) keyadmin(8) ipsec(4) rc.conf(5) ipxrouted(8) IPXrouted(8) mi_switch(9) issignal(9) reboot(2) kadb(4) splash(4) keymap(5) core(5) kgdb(1) ldd(1) ld.so(1) gethostbyname(3) libc(3) sysinstall(8) libdialog(3) dialog(3) kld(4) lkm(4) chpass(5) login.conf(5,) login.conf(5) sr(4) lsdev(8) mem(4) memcontrol(8) time(9) microtime(9) wst(4) mt(4) amd(8) mtab(5) ncr(4) nca(4) mknetid(8) netid(5) ppbus(4) nlpt(4) lpt(4) dnsquery(1) nsquery(1) dnsquery(1) nstest(1) hlfsd(8) passwd(4) passwd(5) gprof(1) pc(1) usb(4) pci(4) ppbus(4) ppbconf(9) en(4) pvcsif(8) en(4) pvctxctl(8) loader.conf(5) rc.conf(8) rc.conf(5) xntpd(8) rename(3) rename(2) fixmount(8) rmtab(5) rpcgen(1) rpc_svc_calls(3) ldd(1) rtld(1) security(7) scp(1) syscons(4) screenmap(5) cd(9) scsiconf(9) newfs(8) scsiformat(8) named(8) signal(2) signal(3) slstat(8) ststat(1) ndc(8) syslog(2) syslog(3) amd.conf(5) syslog(8) syslogd(8) security(7) syslogd(1) syslogd(8) rtprio(1) tcpdump(8) tcpdump(1) login_cap(3) termcap(5,) termcap(5) rc.conf(5) tickadj(8) zic(8) time(2) time(3) vnode(9) vbusy(9) vnode(9) vdrop(9) vnode(9) vfree(9) vnode(9) vhold(9) vnode(9) vfs_object_create(9) VFS_UNMOUNT(9) vflush(9) VFS_FHTOVP(9) vfs_export_lookup(9) boot(9) vfs_unmountall(9) umass(4) vpo(8) vpo(4) wfd(4) wcd(4) wfd(4) wdc(4) wd(4) wst(4) wst(1) ti(4) vlan(4) >How-To-Repeat: $ man .... >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 16:54:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCF5715874; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:54:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from chris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id QAA83407; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:52:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:52:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199908172352.QAA83407@freefall.freebsd.org> To: chris@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, chris@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13211: [LIST] Some man pages has references to nonexisting pages. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [LIST] Some man pages has references to nonexisting pages. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->chris Responsible-Changed-By: chris Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Aug 17 16:51:49 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'm already working on this sort of thing. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 17: 1: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f144.hotmail.com [216.32.181.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D9ADC14D39 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:00:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from k4n@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 80791 invoked by uid 0); 17 Aug 1999 23:37:34 -0000 Message-ID: <19990817233734.80790.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 132.15.225.50 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:37:34 PDT X-Originating-IP: [132.15.225.50] From: "k4n _" To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD webdesign Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:37:34 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I thought maybe you would be interested in a free website redesign(or something) so I downloaded the HTML for your site, and made a few changes. I made the background black, redid the FreeBSD logo slightly, and darkened the logos at the bottom to match the color scheme. If you are interested I can send you a copy, I think it looks pretty cool. See you later Patrick (i just realized how dumb this letter sounds, but hey its 8:30 in the morning what do you expect) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 18:41:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15528155D5 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:41:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA91633; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:40:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 1A2AB14F3A; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:36:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <19990818013638.1A2AB14F3A@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:36:38 -0700 (PDT) From: yt-kage@cb3.so-net.ne.jp To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/13212: There is a descriptive mistake in ip.4 manual. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13212 >Category: docs >Synopsis: There is a descriptive mistake in ip.4 manual. >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: high >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Aug 17 18:40:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Yoshiteru Kageyama >Release: 3.2-Release >Organization: Motorola Japan Ltd. >Environment: >Description: At line 147 in the ip.4 manual, the description about the IP_PORTRANGE_DEFAULT doesn't match the actual source code (i.e. /usr/include/netinet/in.h file). In the ip.4 manual, the IP_PORTRANGE_DEFAULT uses the default range of values, IPPORT_RESERVED through IPPORT_RESERVED, while the actual source code specifies that the IP_PORT_RANGE_DEFAULT uses the values which range from IPPORT_RESERVED to 'IPPORT_USERRESERVED'. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: At line 147, we should change the description like this: .Dv IPPORT_USERRESERVED . >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 18:41:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 726F215612 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:41:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA91642; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:40:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18DEE157F9 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:39:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@stampede.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA10681 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:39:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca44-42.ix.netcom.com(209.111.212.170) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma010650; Tue Aug 17 20:39:22 1999 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.6.9) id SAA52863; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:39:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199908180139.SAA52863@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:39:12 -0700 (PDT) From: asami@freebsd.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/13213: Add Daisuku Watanabe to handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13213 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Add Daisuku Watanabe to handbook >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Aug 17 18:40:02 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Satoshi Asami >Release: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 >Organization: The FreeBSD Project >Environment: irrelevant >Description: the doc tree is still frozen, and I need to add Mr. Watanabe for his www/p5-Apache port fix >How-To-Repeat: try to find Mr. Watanabe in the handbook >Fix: Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/cvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/contrib/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.90 diff -u -r1.90 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml 1999/08/11 13:53:12 1.90 +++ chapter.sgml 1999/08/18 01:36:45 @@ -1782,6 +1782,10 @@ + Daisuke Watanabe NU7D-WTNB@asahi-net.or.jp + + + Damian Hamill damian@cablenet.net >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 18:50:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12C2A14E1D; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:50:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from asami@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA92351; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:49:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:49:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199908180149.SAA92351@freefall.freebsd.org> To: asami@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13213: Add Daisuke Watanabe to handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Old Synopsis: Add Daisuku Watanabe to handbook New Synopsis: Add Daisuke Watanabe to handbook Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nik Responsible-Changed-By: asami Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Aug 17 18:48:29 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: the tree's still frozen, and Nik's the only one that can fix it To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 18:51: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C1D715698 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:51:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA92472; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D0414E1D for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:50:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@stampede.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA04720 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:51:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca44-42.ix.netcom.com(209.111.212.170) by dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma004686; Tue Aug 17 20:50:52 1999 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.6.9) id SAA53044; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:49:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199908180149.SAA53044@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:49:50 -0700 (PDT) From: asami@freebsd.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/13214: Fix category listing in ports.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13214 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Fix category listing in ports.sgml >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Aug 17 18:50:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Satoshi Asami >Release: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 >Organization: The FreeBSD Project >Environment: irrelevant >Description: the doc tree is still frozen, and I need to fix the porting chapter in the handbook >How-To-Repeat: look at the list of categories and agonize how out of date it is >Fix: Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/cvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/ports/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.43 diff -u -r1.43 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml 1999/08/05 20:48:20 1.43 +++ chapter.sgml 1999/08/18 01:47:21 @@ -4353,6 +4353,12 @@ + gnome* + Ports from the GNU Network Object Model + Environment (GNOME) project. + + + graphics Graphics utilities. @@ -4374,8 +4380,8 @@ kde* - Ports that form the K Desktop Environment - (kde). + Ports from the K Desktop Environment + (KDE) project. @@ -4478,22 +4484,22 @@ tcl75* - Ports that use tcl version 7.5 to run. + Ports that use Tcl version 7.5 to run. tcl76* - Ports that use tcl version 7.6 to run. + Ports that use Tcl version 7.6 to run. tcl80* - Ports that use tcl version 8.0 to run. + Ports that use Tcl version 8.0 to run. tcl81* - Ports that use tcl version 8.1 to run. + Ports that use Tcl version 8.1 to run. @@ -4504,22 +4510,27 @@ tk41* - Ports that use tk version 4.1 to run. + Ports that use Tk version 4.1 to run. tk42* - Ports that use tk version 4.2 to run. + Ports that use Tk version 4.2 to run. tk80* - Ports that use tk version 8.0 to run. + Ports that use Tk version 8.0 to run. tk81* - Ports that use tk version 8.1 to run. + Ports that use Tk version 8.1 to run. + + + + tkstep80* + Ports that use TkSTEP version 8.0 to run. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 18:51:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7CF615627; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:51:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from asami@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA92620; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:50:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:50:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199908180150.SAA92620@freefall.freebsd.org> To: asami@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13214: Fix category listing in ports.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Fix category listing in ports.sgml Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->nik Responsible-Changed-By: asami Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Aug 17 18:50:37 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: the tree's still frozen, and Nik's the only one that can fix it To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 18:56:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from fellspt.charm.net (fellspt.charm.net [199.0.70.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37B7156A9; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:56:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dutch@charm.net) Received: from charm.net (coretel-116-215.charm.net [209.143.116.215]) by fellspt.charm.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA29635; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 21:56:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37BA12C7.36AE37F1@charm.net> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 21:56:23 -0400 From: Dutch Collins X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DocBook FAQ available for critique References: <19990817231204.B89707@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik Clayton wrote: > > Folks, > > The DocBook'd FAQ is available for critique at > > http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/faq/index.html > > Replace index.html with book.{ps,pdf,html,txt} to get various other > formats. > > The formatting is not final, and there are a number of issues to thrash > out (for example, "What is the purpose of this FAQ?" is listed as a numbered > question). But this is the beginning of the end. . . for LinuxDoc![1] > > N > > [1] Cue maniacal laughter. > -- > [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, > non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs > the links. > -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> I am not sure if this is what you want. Only got through part of Preface for now. Do you want comments in a special form? -dutch --- start --- where: http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/faq/preface.html#AEN41 .2. What are the goals of FreeBSD? pharagraph 2 That code in our source tree which falls under the GNU General Public License (GPL) or GNU Library General Public License (LGPL) comes with slightly more strings attached, though at least on the side of enforced access rather than the usual opposite. Due to the additional complexities that can evolve in the commercial use of GPL software, we do, however, endeavor to replace such software with submissions under the more relaxed BSD copyright whenever possible. op-ed: You may want to clarify, "enforced access", that phrase will confuse some of the DOS/win9x people. It will start another Q not answer this one as completly as possible. Do you believe a link back to GNU home page would help. Am I being picky? where: http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/faq/preface.html#AEN61 .4. What is the latest version of FreeBSD? Paragraph 3 was: (see the questions on Q: .5. and Q: .6.) op-ed: Where you going to leave Q:5 in or replace it (& others)? If so, try: (see questions Q: .5. and Q: .6.) where: http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/faq/preface.html#AEN119 .8. Is FreeBSD only available for PCs ? paragraph 1 The file http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/alpha/alpha.html does not exist at this server. You are coming from http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/faq/preface.html#AEN119. where: http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/faq/preface.html#AEN128 .9. Who is responsible for FreeBSD? paragraph 1 The file http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/handbook/staff.html does not exist at this server. You are coming from http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/faq/preface.html#AEN128. The file http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/handbook/staff-committers.html does not exist at this server. You are coming from http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/faq/preface.html#AEN128. --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 23:11:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D16B14A0B; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:11:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA51636; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 07:01:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 07:01:49 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: DocBook FAQ translations required ASAP Message-ID: <19990818070149.A50492@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990817224925.A89707@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990817224925.A89707@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Tue, Aug 17, 1999 at 10:49:25PM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Aug 17, 1999 at 10:49:25PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > The steps to do the conversion are as follows (ignore the "book.sgml.nn" > comments -- those are the points when I copied "book.sgml" to a new filename > to keep a copy of my work so far, just in case I made mistakes -- although > feel free to use them to indicate convenient places to checkpoint your work > as well, or as convenient places to commit your changes -- note that the > filename is *always* book.sgml, and not book.sgml.2 or similar). Damn. In a fit of stupidity last night after too many hours awake, I committed the completed FAQ translation, without any of the intermediate stages. Not the smartest thing I've ever done. So, my intermediate results (the book.sgml.nn files) can be downloaded (gzip'd) from http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/faq/stages/. Sorry for the cock up. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Aug 17 23:11:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F387115753; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:11:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA51812; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 07:03:11 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 07:03:11 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Bill Fumerola Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DocBook FAQ available for critique Message-ID: <19990818070311.B50492@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990817231204.B89707@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Bill Fumerola on Tue, Aug 17, 1999 at 05:31:55PM -0400 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Aug 17, 1999 at 05:31:55PM -0400, Bill Fumerola wrote: > On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: > > > The DocBook'd FAQ is available for critique at > > .1. I'd like to customize my kernel. Is it difficult? > > Is the '.1.' because this is an outline? No. It's the default way questions are rendered using Norm's stylesheets. I don't like it either, and will be looking at the DSSSL today and tomorrow to come up with something more reasonable. Probably, each question will be in bold, possibly preceeded by "Q:". N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 1: 3:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D0015724 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 01:03:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id BAA37402; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 01:00:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB81E1571F for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 00:58:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id KAA28039 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:58:11 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id KAA00940; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:44:13 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199908180644.KAA00940@scorpion.crimea.ua> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:44:13 +0400 (MSD) From: "Alexey M. Zelkin" Reply-To: "Alexey M. Zelkin" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/13218: [HUGE PATCH] corrections for manpages Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13218 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Many manpages still not conformed mdoc(7) style >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Aug 18 01:00:02 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Alexey Zelkin >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: Home >Environment: >Description: So, patch is not fixing all problems with invalid cross references, because I see that Chris Costelo already works on this task. There lot's style and look corrections for FreeBSD manpages. I don't know why, but patch is again huge :-)) Probably manpages last time were reviewed long time ago ... 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In-Reply-To: <199908172352.QAA83407@freefall.freebsd.org> from "chris@FreeBSD.ORG" at "Aug 17, 1999 04:52:56 pm" To: chris@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 05:24:01 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Synopsis: [LIST] Some man pages has references to nonexisting pages. > > Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->chris > Responsible-Changed-By: chris > Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Aug 17 16:51:49 PDT 1999 > Responsible-Changed-Why: > I'm already working on this sort of thing. So am I. I'll let you field this one, but how about you pass your final commit for this by me? -- Mike Pritchard mpp@FreeBSD.ORG or mpp@mpp.pro-ns.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 3:31: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7BAD14D15 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 03:30:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA78924 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 03:31:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD webdesign In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:37:34 PDT." <19990817233734.80790.qmail@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 03:31:27 -0700 Message-ID: <78920.934972287@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I thought maybe you would be interested in a free website redesign(or > something) so I downloaded the HTML for your site, and made a few changes. I > made the background black, redid the FreeBSD logo slightly, and darkened the A black background? Aiieeeee!! :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 3:51:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 088EA1576D for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 03:51:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id DAA55330; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 03:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8261536B for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 03:44:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: (from ben) by scientia.demon.co.uk (Exim 3.024 #3) id 11GzfD-000BII-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 07:57:35 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 07:57:35 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst Reply-To: ben@scientia.demon.co.uk To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/13222: Missing links for {v,}{err,warn}c function manpages. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13222 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Missing links for {v,}{err,warn}c function manpages. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Aug 18 03:50:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Ben Smithurst >Release: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: I don't think it's important, but: $ uname -a FreeBSD scientia.demon.co.uk 3.2-STABLE FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #139: Tue Aug 10 15:56:40 BST 1999 ben@scientia.demon.co.uk:/usr/src/sys/compile/SCIENTIA i386 >Description: The err.3 manpage documents the errc, verrc, warnc, and vwarnc functions (amongst others). While the other functions have {name}.3.gz linked to err.3.gz when installed, these functions do not. This leads to minor annoyances such as `No manual entry for errc'. There may be a good reason for this, of course. >How-To-Repeat: $ man errc No manual entry for errc >Fix: patch for src/lib/libc/gen/Makefile.inc: --- Makefile.inc.orig Wed Aug 18 07:44:09 1999 +++ Makefile.inc Wed Aug 18 07:45:20 1999 @@ -60,6 +60,7 @@ directory.3 telldir.3 MLINKS+=dlopen.3 dlclose.3 dlopen.3 dlerror.3 dlopen.3 dlsym.3 MLINKS+=err.3 err_set_exit.3 err.3 err_set_file.3 err.3 errx.3 err.3 verr.3 \ + err.3 errc.3 err.3 verrc.3 err.3 warnc.3 err.3 vwarnc.3 \ err.3 verrx.3 err.3 vwarn.3 err.3 vwarnx.3 err.3 warn.3 err.3 warnx.3 MLINKS+=exec.3 execl.3 exec.3 execle.3 exec.3 execlp.3 exec.3 exect.3 \ exec.3 execv.3 exec.3 execvp.3 >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 5:31:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B447F14DC2 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 05:31:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id FAA63894; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 05:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 05:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199908181230.FAA63894@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Tim Vanderhoek Subject: Re: docs/13218: [HUGE PATCH] corrections for manpages Reply-To: Tim Vanderhoek Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/13218; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Tim Vanderhoek To: "Alexey M. Zelkin" Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/13218: [HUGE PATCH] corrections for manpages Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 08:30:27 -0400 On Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 10:44:13AM +0400, Alexey M. Zelkin wrote: > > I see that Chris Costelo already works on this task. There lot's > style and look corrections for FreeBSD manpages. I don't know why, but patch > is again huge :-)) Probably manpages last time were reviewed long time ago ... I'm not sure what the purpose of the following hunk is... Index: share/man/man4/man4.i386/meteor.4 =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/CVSROOT/src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/meteor.4,v retrieving revision 1.8 diff -c -r1.8 meteor.4 [...] *** 71,77 **** behavior is to not deallocate pages. .Pp .Em options "METEOR_DEALLOC_ABOVE=xxx" ! deallocate all pages above the specified number. The default action is to not deallocate above any pages. .Pp 3) Make and install the kernel. --- 69,75 ---- behavior is to not deallocate pages. .Pp .Em options "METEOR_DEALLOC_ABOVE=xxx" ! deallocate all pages above the specified number. The default action is to not deallocate above any pages. .Pp 3) Make and install the kernel. *************** If the only change is to single-space after the period, I strongly object. It looks like you are trying to make the line fit some minimum width. If this is the case, I'd rather you simply started a newline after the period. The advantage to this is that it makes future diffs smaller and more readable. Having simpler diffs, more specific, diffs is highly desirable since it makes the job of the translators easier. Also, starting each sentence on a newline allows the manpages to have the correct number of spaces used after each period (except in certain broken instances). Speaking of translators...if this was done by script, you may want to supply a copy of the script with this PR. It might (or might not) be useful. Also, we don't have a program named bsd2dos. Some of the .Xr's you've added don't exist. This doesn't bother me too much, but.... -- This is my .signature which gets appended to the end of my messages. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 5:56:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ender.ncsa.es (ender.ncsa.es [194.179.50.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06558157DC; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 05:56:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@ncsa.es) Received: from ender.ncsa.es (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ender.ncsa.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA15834; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:00:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jesusr@ncsa.es) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990817231204.B89707@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:00:17 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: jesusr@ncsa.es Organization: Nexus Comunicaciones, S.A. From: Jesus Rodriguez To: Nik Clayton Subject: RE: DocBook FAQ available for critique Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 17-Aug-99 Nik Clayton wrote: > The formatting is not final, and there are a number of issues to thrash > out (for example, "What is the purpose of this FAQ?" is listed as a numbered > question). But this is the beginning of the end. . . for LinuxDoc![1] Curiosity: /usr/local/bin/jade -ioutput.html -V nochunks -c ../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -d ../../../share/sgml/freebsd.dsl -t sgml book.sgml > book.html /usr/local/bin/jade:book.sgml:1210:15:E: [xref to ANCHOR unsupported] /usr/local/bin/jade:book.sgml:1731:21:E: [xref to ANCHOR unsupported] /usr/local/bin/jade:book.sgml:1732:4:E: [xref to ANCHOR unsupported] /usr/local/bin/jade:book.sgml:1749:10:E: [xref to ANCHOR unsupported] /usr/local/bin/jade:book.sgml:1913:114:E: [xref to ANCHOR unsupported] /usr/local/bin/jade:book.sgml:2290:21:E: [xref to ANCHOR unsupported] /usr/local/bin/jade:book.sgml:2688:14:E: [xref to ANCHOR unsupported] /usr/local/bin/jade:book.sgml:2754:14:E: [xref to ANCHOR unsupported] /usr/local/bin/jade:book.sgml:2794:14:E: [xref to ANCHOR unsupported] /usr/local/bin/jade:book.sgml:2839:6:E: [xref to ANCHOR unsupported] /usr/local/bin/jade:book.sgml:4549:19:E: [xref to ANCHOR unsupported] /usr/local/bin/jade:book.sgml:4550:0:E: [xref to ANCHOR unsupported] What's the difference between and ? Thanks JesusR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 6:50:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.kt.rim.or.jp (mail.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A9ED14BFD; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 06:50:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp) Received: from rhea.sky.rim.or.jp (ppp515.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.140.165]) by mail.kt.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.6W-RIMNET-98-06-09) with ESMTP id WAA23782; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:50:04 +0900 (JST) From: kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp Received: from localhost.sky.rim.or.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rhea.sky.rim.or.jp (8.9.3/3.7W/rhea-1.1) with ESMTP id WAA70602; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:50:03 +0900 (JST) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:50:02 +0900 Message-ID: <14266.47626.569100.72159A@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> To: nik@freebsd.org Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: DocBook FAQ translations required ASAP In-Reply-To: In your message of "Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:49:25 +0100" <19990817224925.A89707@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990817224925.A89707@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.0.3 (Notorious) SEMI/1.13.3 (Komaiko) FLIM/1.12.5 (Hirahata) MULE XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.3 - "Komaiko") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:49:25 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > IMPORTANT: The doc/ tree is *still* frozen. The only commits allowed > in doc/ at the moment are from (a) me, (b) a nominated member of one of > the translation teams, carrying out the instructions below. The tree > will be thawed as soon as possible, which basically means when this > work is carried out. I think I cannot do this work in 3 hours like you. Please remove "ja_JP.eucJP" entry from top Makefile of FAQ and unfreeze repository. > If you're going to be doing the conversion of a translated FAQ, please let > me know, so I can keep track of who's doing what. Thanks. Currently, it seems only I can do this work, so I'll do. But this means most of my tasks will slow down such as update & fix ports, MFC PAO and others, catch up other doc, www, man. Jun Kuriyama To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 7:51:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4374114F42 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 07:51:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA23377; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 07:50:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 07:50:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199908181450.HAA23377@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: "Alexey M. Zelkin" Subject: Re: docs/13218: [HUGE PATCH] corrections for manpages Reply-To: "Alexey M. Zelkin" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/13218; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Alexey M. Zelkin" To: hoek@freebsd.org Cc: phantom@cris.net, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/13218: [HUGE PATCH] corrections for manpages Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:40:00 +0400 (MSD) hi, > I'm not sure what the purpose of the following hunk is... > [hunk skiped] > > If the only change is to single-space after the period, I strongly > object. It looks like you are trying to make the line fit some > minimum width. If this is the case, I'd rather you simply started a > newline after the period. The advantage to this is that it makes > future diffs smaller and more readable. Having simpler diffs, more > specific, diffs is highly desirable since it makes the job of the > translators easier. Hmm... Looks like I just automaticly adjusted width to minimum. ;-( Anyway this hunk have no any special functionality, therefore you can ignore it. > Speaking of translators...if this was done by script, you may want > to supply a copy of the script with this PR. It might (or might > not) be useful. I have TODO record to join lots of script which I'd used for detecting these sorts of problems. > Also, we don't have a program named bsd2dos. Some of the .Xr's you've > added don't exist. This doesn't bother me too much, but.... Hey... Take a look again on this hunk. And you'll see that I'd replaced ".Xr bsd2dos 1" with reference to "unix2dos (from ports collection)" -- Sincerely Yours, | phantom@crimea.edu (primary) Alexey Zelkin | phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua (home) | ICQ: #6196584, FIDO: 2:460/12.26 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 10:12:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8700D14E9D for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:12:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id KAA34591; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F33414C80 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:07:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id UAA04690 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:08:07 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id TAA01630; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:52:12 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199908181552.TAA01630@scorpion.crimea.ua> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:52:12 +0400 (MSD) From: "Alexey M. Zelkin" Reply-To: "Alexey M. Zelkin" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/13225: fpa.4 seems to be i386 specific and should be moved to man4/man.i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13225 >Category: docs >Synopsis: fpa.4 seems to be i386 specific and should be moved to man4/man.i386 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Aug 18 10:10:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Alexey Zelkin >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: Home >Environment: -current about 4 days ago >Description: fpa(4) (AKA fea(4)) is marked as "i386 only" and will be relocated to i386 specific man directory. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Too simple. cvs rm cvs add vi Makefiles cvs commit >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 10:12:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE86D14F1D for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:12:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id KAA34600; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F3CF14E9D for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:08:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id UAA04711 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:10:26 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id TAA01170; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:06:04 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199908181506.TAA01170@scorpion.crimea.ua> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:06:04 +0400 (MSD) From: "Alexey M. Zelkin" Reply-To: "Alexey M. Zelkin" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/13226: [PATCH] alpm.4 has not linked to .../man/man4 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13226 >Category: docs >Synopsis: alpm.4 has not linked to .../man/man4 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Aug 18 10:10:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Alexey Zelkin >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT >Organization: Home >Environment: -current about 4 days ago >Description: Author forgotten to add MLINKS. This caused makewhatis to say "nothing appropriate". makewhatis(1) has no functionality to go thru included man subdirectories like i386 and alpha. But this functionality not need if all manpages linked correctly. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/CVSROOT/src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.112 diff -c -r1.112 Makefile *** Makefile 1999/07/27 06:52:46 1.112 --- Makefile 1999/08/18 15:02:30 *************** *** 18,23 **** --- 18,24 ---- MLINKS+= ahc.4 ../ahc.4 MLINKS+= aic.4 ../aic.4 MLINKS+= al.4 ../al.4 + MLINKS+= alpm.4 ../alpm.4 MLINKS+= apm.4 ../apm.4 MLINKS+= ar.4 ../ar.4 MLINKS+= asc.4 ../asc.4 >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 10:21:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784BA14F5A for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:21:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id KAA35359; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:20:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199908181720.KAA35359@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: "Alexey M. Zelkin" Subject: Re: docs/13218: [HUGE PATCH] corrections for manpages Reply-To: "Alexey M. Zelkin" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/13218; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Alexey M. Zelkin" To: phantom@cris.net (Alexey M. Zelkin) Cc: hoek@FreeBSD.org, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13218: [HUGE PATCH] corrections for manpages Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:21:53 +0400 (MSD) hi, > > Speaking of translators...if this was done by script, you may want > > to supply a copy of the script with this PR. It might (or might > > not) be useful. > I have TODO record to join lots of script which I'd used for detecting > these sorts of problems. Wonna say that I have a lot of sh(1) scripts, but planing to convert it to perl, join and make something named "mdoclint". Which checks I am proposing to include there (draft): 1. .Dt, .Dd, .Os will present. 2. .Dt argument will be uppercase. 3. All chunks "$[1-9]$" will be converted to ".Xr" 4. All .Xr's will be reachable or replaced with .Pr or .Ur 5. SEE ALSO .Xr's will be sorted. 6. Sort of checks for .Sh values, quotes etc. 7. Probably include functionality of checknr(1) Comments and additions are welcome. NOTE: I am not fast in perl because just started to learn this language, and if you're interesting to participate -- contact me. -- Sincerely Yours, | phantom@crimea.edu (primary) Alexey Zelkin | phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua (home) | ICQ: #6196584, FIDO: 2:460/12.26 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 10:21:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD13F14F5F for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:21:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id KAA35368; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:20:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AE9D14F5F for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:13:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id UAA04737 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:13:46 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id TAA01449; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:35:26 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199908181535.TAA01449@scorpion.crimea.ua> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:35:26 +0400 (MSD) From: "Alexey M. Zelkin" Reply-To: "Alexey M. Zelkin" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/13227: [PATCH] some staff in .../man/man4/i386 not marked as i386 only Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13227 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] some staff in .../man/man4/i386 not marked as i386 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Aug 18 10:20:02 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Alexey Zelkin >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT >Organization: Home >Environment: >Description: I think Synopsis and patch enough descriptive. Note: I'd added $Id$ to en.4 and found that this page has no BSD copyright included. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: atkbd.4 =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/CVSROOT/src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/atkbd.4,v retrieving revision 1.8 diff -c -r1.8 atkbd.4 *** atkbd.4 1999/07/31 02:33:40 1.8 --- atkbd.4 1999/08/18 15:31:12 *************** *** 27,33 **** .\" $Id: atkbd.4,v 1.8 1999/07/31 02:33:40 mpp Exp $ .\" .Dd May 21, 1999 ! .Dt ATKBD 4 .Os FreeBSD .Sh NAME .Nm atkbd --- 27,33 ---- .\" $Id: atkbd.4,v 1.8 1999/07/31 02:33:40 mpp Exp $ .\" .Dd May 21, 1999 ! .Dt ATKBD 4 i386 .Os FreeBSD .Sh NAME .Nm atkbd Index: atkbdc.4 =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/CVSROOT/src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/atkbdc.4,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -c -r1.3 atkbdc.4 *** atkbdc.4 1999/05/20 09:55:52 1.3 --- atkbdc.4 1999/08/18 15:31:26 *************** *** 27,33 **** .\" $Id: atkbdc.4,v 1.3 1999/05/20 09:55:52 yokota Exp $ .\" .Dd February 9, 1999 ! .Dt ATKBDC 4 .Os FreeBSD .Sh NAME .Nm atkbdc --- 27,33 ---- .\" $Id: atkbdc.4,v 1.3 1999/05/20 09:55:52 yokota Exp $ .\" .Dd February 9, 1999 ! .Dt ATKBDC 4 i386 .Os FreeBSD .Sh NAME .Nm atkbdc Index: en.4 =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/CVSROOT/src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/en.4,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -c -r1.3 en.4 *** en.4 1999/08/15 10:48:07 1.3 --- en.4 1999/08/18 15:32:00 *************** *** 1,5 **** .Dd December 29, 1997 ! .Dt EN 4 .Os BSD .Sh NAME .Nm en --- 1,7 ---- + .\" $Id$ + .\" .Dd December 29, 1997 ! .Dt EN 4 i386 .Os BSD .Sh NAME .Nm en Index: pcf.4 =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/CVSROOT/src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/pcf.4,v retrieving revision 1.4 diff -c -r1.4 pcf.4 *** pcf.4 1999/08/15 10:48:10 1.4 --- pcf.4 1999/08/18 15:32:12 *************** *** 25,31 **** .\" $Id: pcf.4,v 1.4 1999/08/15 10:48:10 mpp Exp $ .\" .Dd August 6, 1998 ! .Dt PCF 4 .Os FreeBSD .Sh NAME .Nm pcf --- 25,31 ---- .\" $Id: pcf.4,v 1.4 1999/08/15 10:48:10 mpp Exp $ .\" .Dd August 6, 1998 ! .Dt PCF 4 i386 .Os FreeBSD .Sh NAME .Nm pcf Index: ppc.4 =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/CVSROOT/src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/ppc.4,v retrieving revision 1.5 diff -c -r1.5 ppc.4 *** ppc.4 1999/08/15 10:48:11 1.5 --- ppc.4 1999/08/18 15:32:18 *************** *** 25,31 **** .\" $Id: ppc.4,v 1.5 1999/08/15 10:48:11 mpp Exp $ .\" .Dd March 5, 1998 ! .Dt PPC 4 .Os FreeBSD .Sh NAME .Nm ppc --- 25,31 ---- .\" $Id: ppc.4,v 1.5 1999/08/15 10:48:11 mpp Exp $ .\" .Dd March 5, 1998 ! .Dt PPC 4 i386 .Os FreeBSD .Sh NAME .Nm ppc Index: syscons.4 =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/CVSROOT/src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/syscons.4,v retrieving revision 1.4 diff -c -r1.4 syscons.4 *** syscons.4 1999/08/14 20:51:13 1.4 --- syscons.4 1999/08/18 15:32:24 *************** *** 27,33 **** .\" $Id: syscons.4,v 1.4 1999/08/14 20:51:13 chris Exp $ .\" .Dd June 30, 1999 ! .Dt SYSCONS 4 .Os FreeBSD .Sh NAME .Nm syscons , --- 27,33 ---- .\" $Id: syscons.4,v 1.4 1999/08/14 20:51:13 chris Exp $ .\" .Dd June 30, 1999 ! .Dt SYSCONS 4 i386 .Os FreeBSD .Sh NAME .Nm syscons , Index: vga.4 =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/CVSROOT/src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/vga.4,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -c -r1.3 vga.4 *** vga.4 1999/07/05 10:03:05 1.3 --- vga.4 1999/08/18 15:32:30 *************** *** 27,33 **** .\" $Id: vga.4,v 1.3 1999/07/05 10:03:05 yokota Exp $ .\" .Dd June 30, 1999 ! .Dt VGA 4 .Os FreeBSD .Sh NAME .Nm vga --- 27,33 ---- .\" $Id: vga.4,v 1.3 1999/07/05 10:03:05 yokota Exp $ .\" .Dd June 30, 1999 ! .Dt VGA 4 i386 .Os FreeBSD .Sh NAME .Nm vga Index: wfd.4 =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/CVSROOT/src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/wfd.4,v retrieving revision 1.7 diff -c -r1.7 wfd.4 *** wfd.4 1999/08/14 20:51:13 1.7 --- wfd.4 1999/08/18 15:32:35 *************** *** 28,34 **** .\" $Id: wfd.4,v 1.7 1999/08/14 20:51:13 chris Exp $ .\" .Dd January 16, 1998 ! .Dt WFD 4 .Os FreeBSD .Sh NAME .Nm wfd --- 28,34 ---- .\" $Id: wfd.4,v 1.7 1999/08/14 20:51:13 chris Exp $ .\" .Dd January 16, 1998 ! .Dt WFD 4 i386 .Os FreeBSD .Sh NAME .Nm wfd >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: only To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 11:32:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B80D15956 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:32:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA40880; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:30:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6C2614ED8 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:28:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id VAA06176 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 21:30:07 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id VAA02362; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 21:17:10 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199908181717.VAA02362@scorpion.crimea.ua> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 21:17:10 +0400 (MSD) From: "Alexey M. Zelkin" Reply-To: "Alexey M. Zelkin" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/13229: [PATCH] hier.7 is out-of-date Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13229 >Category: docs >Synopsis: hier.7 is out-of-date >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Aug 18 11:30:03 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Alexey Zelkin >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: Home >Environment: -current about 4 days ago >Description: Few directories removed. A lot of added. Some directories marked as directories. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: hier.7 =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/CVSROOT/src/share/man/man7/hier.7,v retrieving revision 1.18 diff -c -r1.18 hier.7 *** hier.7 1999/05/29 12:58:44 1.18 --- hier.7 1999/08/18 17:09:38 *************** *** 102,111 **** ppp configuration files; see .Xr ppp 8 - .It Li skel/ - local example . (dot) files for new accounts; - see - .Xr adduser 8 .It Li uucp/ uucp configuration files; see --- 102,107 ---- *************** *** 155,161 **** .It Li g++/ GNU C++ include files .Bl -tag -width "kerberosIV/" -compact ! .It Li std GNU C++ libstdc++ include files .El .It Li isofs/ --- 151,157 ---- .It Li g++/ GNU C++ include files .Bl -tag -width "kerberosIV/" -compact ! .It Li std/ GNU C++ libstdc++ include files .El .It Li isofs/ *************** *** 175,180 **** --- 171,180 ---- misc network C include files .It Li netatalk/ Appletalk protocol + .It Li netatm/ + ATM include files; + see + .Xr atm 8 .It Li netinet/ C include files for Internet standard protocols; see *************** *** 191,196 **** --- 191,200 ---- Objective C include files .It Li pccard/ PC-CARD controllers + .It Li posix4/ + POSIX real-time extensions includes; + see + .Xr p1003_1b 9 .It Li protocols/ C include files for Berkeley service protocols .It Li readline/ *************** *** 203,208 **** --- 207,215 ---- .Xr rpc 3 .It Li rpcsvc/ ??? + .It Li security/ + PAM; see + .Xr pam 8 .It Li ss/ libss ??? .It Li sys/ *************** *** 222,231 **** .Bl -tag -width "kerberosIV/" -compact .It Li ffs/ Fast filesystem - .It Li lfs/ - log filesystem; - see - .Xr mount_lfs 8 .It Li mfs/ memory file system; see --- 229,234 ---- *************** *** 244,249 **** --- 247,256 ---- .Bl -tag -width Fl -compact .It Li compat/ shared libraries for compatibility + .Bl -tag -width Fl -compact + .It Li aout/ + a.out backward compatibility libraries + .El .El .Pp .It Li libdata/ *************** *** 255,260 **** --- 262,269 ---- various prebuilt lint libraries; see .Xr lint 1 + .It Li msdosfs/ + Chatacter set conversion tables .It Li perl/ .Bl -tag -width Fl -compact .It Li 5.00503/ *************** *** 273,278 **** --- 282,291 ---- .It Li libexec/ system daemons & system utilities (executed by other programs) .Bl -tag -width Fl -compact + .It Li aout/ + ??? + .It Li elf/ + ??? .It Li lpr/ ??? see *************** *** 341,347 **** .It Li doc/ misc documentation; src for most of the printed ! .Bx BSD manuals (available from the .Tn USENIX --- 354,360 ---- .It Li doc/ misc documentation; src for most of the printed ! .Bx manuals (available from the .Tn USENIX *************** *** 404,425 **** templates for make; see .Xr make 1 - .It Li ms/ - macros for use with the ms macro package .It Li nls/ national language support files; see .Xr mklocale 1 .It Li perl/ perl library files; see .Xr perl 1 - .It Li sgml/ - SGML tools files; - see - .Xr instant 1 .It Li skel/ example . (dot) files for new accounts .It Li tabset/ tab description files for a variety of terminals; used in the termcap file; --- 417,452 ---- templates for make; see .Xr make 1 .It Li nls/ national language support files; see .Xr mklocale 1 + .It Li pcvt/ + pcvt documentation and etc examples; + see + .Xr pcvt 4 .It Li perl/ perl library files; see .Xr perl 1 .It Li skel/ example . (dot) files for new accounts + .It Li syscons/ + console staff; + see + .Xr syscons 4 + .Bl -tag -width "scrnmaps/xx" -compact + .It Li fonts/ + console fonts; + see + .Xr vidfont 1 + .It Li keymaps/ + console keyboard maps; + see + .Xr kbdmap 1 + .It Li scrnmaps/ + console screen maps + .El .It Li tabset/ tab description files for a variety of terminals; used in the termcap file; *************** *** 431,436 **** --- 458,465 ---- .Xr nroff 1 and .Xr troff 1 + .It Li vi/ + ??? .It Li zoneinfo/ timezone configuration information; see *************** *** 444,451 **** src for files in /bin .It Li contrib/ src for file from contributed software ! .It Li eBones ! Kerberos and DES .It Li etc/ src for files in /etc .It Li games/ --- 473,480 ---- src for files in /bin .It Li contrib/ src for file from contributed software ! .It Li crypto ! DES .It Li etc/ src for files in /etc .It Li games/ *************** *** 461,477 **** .It Li libexec/ src for files in /usr/libexec .It Li release/ ! Files required to produce a .Tn FreeBSD release .It Li sbin/ src for files in /sbin .It Li secure ! DES Sources .It Li share/ src for files in /usr/share .It Li sys/ kernel src files .It Li usr.bin/ src for files in /usr/bin .It Li usr.sbin/ --- 490,508 ---- .It Li libexec/ src for files in /usr/libexec .It Li release/ ! files required to produce a .Tn FreeBSD release .It Li sbin/ src for files in /sbin .It Li secure ! FreeSec sources .It Li share/ src for files in /usr/share .It Li sys/ kernel src files + .It Li tools/ + tools used for maintaince and testing of FreeBSD .It Li usr.bin/ src for files in /usr/bin .It Li usr.sbin/ *************** *** 514,528 **** see .Xr \&at 1 .Bl -tag -width "preserve/" -compact ! .It Li jobs directory containing job files ! .It Li spool directory containing output spool files .El .Pp .It Li backups/ misc. backup files ! .It Li crash ???; see .Xr crash 8 --- 545,559 ---- see .Xr \&at 1 .Bl -tag -width "preserve/" -compact ! .It Li jobs/ directory containing job files ! .It Li spool/ directory containing output spool files .El .Pp .It Li backups/ misc. backup files ! .It Li crash/ ???; see .Xr crash 8 *************** *** 532,538 **** cron log files; see .Xr cron 8 ! .It Li tabs crontab files; see .Xr crontab 5 --- 563,569 ---- cron log files; see .Xr cron 8 ! .It Li tabs/ crontab files; see .Xr crontab 5 *************** *** 541,549 **** .It Li db/ misc. automatically generated system-specific database files .It Li games/ ! misc. game status and log files ! .It Li games/ ! games score files .It Li log/ misc. system log files .Pp --- 572,578 ---- .It Li db/ misc. automatically generated system-specific database files .It Li games/ ! misc. game status and score files .It Li log/ misc. system log files .Pp *************** *** 567,574 **** .Xr msgs 1 .It Li quotas/ filesystem quota information files - .It preserve - ??? .It Li run/ system information files describing various info about system since it was booted --- 596,601 ---- *************** *** 612,618 **** .It Li tmp/ temporary files that are kept between system reboots .Bl -tag -width Fl -compact ! .It Li vi.recover the directory where recovery files are stored .El .It Li yp --- 639,645 ---- .It Li tmp/ temporary files that are kept between system reboots .Bl -tag -width Fl -compact ! .It Li vi.recover/ the directory where recovery files are stored .El .It Li yp >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 11:50: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD7C9153C8 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:49:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA43500 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:40:53 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA05840 for doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:19:31 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:19:31 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Default FDP docs installation directory? Message-ID: <19990818121931.A4266@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks, With the repo-change comes an opportunity to change where our docs are installed. Historically, the documentation has been installed in to /usr/doc. This includes the standard BSD documentation, and the FreeBSD specific stuff, such as the FAQ and the Handbook. This is a little inconsistent -- the BSD stuff lives in the src/ tree, but the FAQ, Handbook, and others have been out of the src/ for some time. In addition, the FDP stuff is in many different languages and encodings, which needs to be catered for. The Makefile's I've committed so far install the docs in to /usr/local/share/doc/fdp//// where en_US.ISO_8859-1 and friends books/, articles/, man/ faq/, handbook/, programming-tools/ In addition, a language compatability symlink is installed. So /usr/local/share/doc/fdp/en is a symlink to /usr/local/share/doc/fdp/en_US.ISO_8859-1, and /usr/local/share/doc/fdp/ja_JP.eucJP is a symlink to /usr/local/share/doc/fdp/ja (yes, Japanese team, I hadn't forgotten your comments and concerns). This is the best scheme I could come up. It keeps the FDP stuff away from documentation from other packages that might be installed (for example, /usr/local/share/doc/{mutt,apache,jade,bzip2} and others all exist on my system), and it's extendable. In particular, I intend to support 'virtual types', as well as the {books,articles} distinction. So if you have installed books/printing, articles/samba-printing, and articles/mac-printing (to pick three hypothetical examples) "make install" would create the necessary symlinks so that the reader could go to % cd /usr/local/share/doc/fdp/en/printing % ls mac-printing/ printing/ samba-printing/ without needing to know that one of those was a book and that the other two were articles. A document could be in many different virtual types, so the reader can access it in from many different routes on the filesystem. Make sense? Does anyone have any objections to /usr/local/share/doc/fdp/ as the root path for the documentation? 'fdp' is a little bit cryptic, but I like TLAs, and the only other alternative I could think of ('docproj', or 'doc-proj') is quite ugly. One more thing -- A mid-term goal is for the pre-built docs (HTML, PS, PDF and so on) to be distributed as binary packages, to be managed using the pkg_* family. I'm pretty certain this precludes putting the documentation anywhere other than a subdirectory of /usr/local/, so the old /usr/doc/ directory is right out. Comments? N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 11:55:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id 4688914F8A; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:55:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A71D1CD8A8 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:55:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@hub.freebsd.org) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:55:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: FAQ only for FreeBSD 2.x? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The title of the FAQ at http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/FAQ.html is "Frequently Asked Questions for FreeBSD 2.X". Shouldn't this be "3.x", or better yet, specify no version number (so it's not forgotten again when 4.x becomes -stable?) Kris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 12:17:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 998AA14D25; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:17:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA51103; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:07:22 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:07:21 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Kris Kennaway Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FAQ only for FreeBSD 2.x? Message-ID: <19990818200721.A49279@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Kris Kennaway on Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 11:55:10AM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 11:55:10AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > The title of the FAQ at http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/FAQ.html is "Frequently > Asked Questions for FreeBSD 2.X". Shouldn't this be "3.x", or better yet, > specify no version number (so it's not forgotten again when 4.x becomes > -stable?) I agree. What we also need is someone to go through it and identify which answers in the FAQ were 2.x specific, or no longer apply because the problem's been fixed. Any volunteers? N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 12:21:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F5B15C2B for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:21:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id MAA45948; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C3061590B for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:17:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id WAA06658 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:17:03 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id WAA02835; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:04:34 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199908181804.WAA02835@scorpion.crimea.ua> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:04:34 +0400 (MSD) From: "Alexey M. Zelkin" Reply-To: "Alexey M. Zelkin" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/13233: [PATCH] environ.7 is out-of-date Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13233 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Some wide used environment variables not listed in environ.7 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Aug 18 12:20:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Alexey Zelkin >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: Home >Environment: -current about 4 days ago >Description: I have added and described PWD, PAGER and EDITOR environment variables. Note: I note completely sure about description of PAGER ;) I understand that but ... it's hard for me to say that with english. So, feel free to modify its description. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: environ.7 =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/CVSROOT/src/share/man/man7/environ.7,v retrieving revision 1.11 diff -c -r1.11 environ.7 *** environ.7 1999/02/04 07:13:49 1.11 --- environ.7 1999/08/18 18:02:38 *************** *** 62,67 **** --- 62,69 ---- or ``m'' and in units of a gigabyte by specifying a number followed by ``G'' or ``g''. Sizes less than 512 bytes or greater than a gigabyte are ignored. + .It Ev EDITOR + Default editor name. .It Ev EXINIT A startup list of commands read by .Xr ex 1 *************** *** 83,88 **** --- 85,96 ---- .Xr mail 1 , .Xr sh 1 , and many other mailclients. + .It Ev PAGER + Default paginator name. Value of this variable is used by + .Xr mail 1 , + .Xr man 1 , + .Xf ftp 1 , + etc, to display information which not fit to screen. .It Ev PATH The sequence of directories, separated by colons, searched by .Xr csh 1 , *************** *** 99,104 **** --- 107,114 ---- .Xr lpq 1 , and .Xr lprm 1 . + .It Ev PWD + The current directory pathname. .It Ev SHELL The full pathname of the user's login shell. .It Ev TERM >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 12:29:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ionet.net (mail.ionet.net [206.41.128.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6E614D25 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:29:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ericp1@ionet.net) Received: from ionet.net (dhcp170.dhcp.ionet.net [38.193.1.170]) by ionet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA13920 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:33:13 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <37BB08B7.67841061@ionet.net> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:25:43 -0500 From: Eric Phillips X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Addition to the online handbook Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I just got through installing the latest build of FreeBSD last night, and am a complete novice, tho i have been dealing with computers for the last 10 years. The only section of the installation proceedure that i had to call a BSD savvy friend for was when i had to allocate space to the individual slices on the drives and mount them. After going through it, it all seems very simple, but at the time, i had no clue what i should do after i had switched the drives over to a BSD filesystem. If a section that explained slices, their average sizes, and thier use in the BSD filesystem were to be put in the online handbook, this would probably help someone like myself in the future. Thanks, Eric Phillips To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 12:36: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nisser.com (n2000039.telekabel.chello.nl [212.187.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E20158E3; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:35:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roelof@nisser.com) Received: from nisser.com (roelof [10.0.0.2]) by nisser.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA14760; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 21:35:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roelof@nisser.com) Message-ID: <37BB0AEE.ED7B311F@nisser.com> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 21:35:10 +0200 From: Roelof Osinga Organization: eboa - engineering buro Office Automation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: k4n _ Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD webdesign References: <19990817233734.80790.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org k4n _ wrote: > > I thought maybe you would be interested in a free website redesign(or > something) so I downloaded the HTML for your site, and made a few changes. I > made the background black, redid the FreeBSD logo slightly, and darkened the > logos at the bottom to match the color scheme. If you are interested I can > send you a copy, I think it looks pretty cool. See you later Why do people always assume that dark is cool. The purpose of a website is to convey information. That means good readability, not looks. Whereas beauty lies in the eye of the beholder, readability assuredly does not. Barring the by now ancient amber CRT phosphor colors most research shows that black on white (note the order) is best readable. The FreeBSD site is emminently readable, whereas the old freshmeat site was not. In fact with my previous monitor's settings I couldn't even read that site without upping the brightness (I'm a programmer, for text high contrast is needed contrary to the high brightness for graphics work). Clearly I was not alone in that they changed to a much brighter color scheme. As well as black"er" on white lettering. > (i just realized how dumb this letter sounds, but hey its 8:30 in the > morning what do you expect) It's always 8.30 in the morning someplace. B.t.w. you send it to general lists, maybe it would be better to send it directly to the webmaster. Roelof -- Home is where the (@) http://eboa.com/ is. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 12:58: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A95814FF5; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:58:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id MAA49321; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:55:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:55:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199908181955.MAA49321@freefall.freebsd.org> To: phantom@cris.net, mpp@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13233: Some wide used environment variables not listed in environ.7 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Some wide used environment variables not listed in environ.7 State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: mpp State-Changed-When: Wed Aug 18 12:55:11 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: The additional ENVIRONMENT variables are now documented in the man page. Thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 13:19:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 592BA15A64; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:19:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA08423; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:18:19 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:18:19 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Default FDP docs installation directory? Message-ID: <19990818151819.C2750@futuresouth.com> References: <19990818121931.A4266@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <19990818121931.A4266@kilt.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 12:19:31PM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 12:19:31PM +0100, a little birdie told me that Nik Clayton remarked > > Does anyone have any objections to /usr/local/share/doc/fdp/ as the root > path for the documentation? 'fdp' is a little bit cryptic, but I like > TLAs, and the only other alternative I could think of ('docproj', or > 'doc-proj') is quite ugly. Why /usr/local/share instead of /usr/share? -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Unix Systems Administrator | fullermd@futuresouth.com Specializing in FreeBSD | http://www.over-yonder.net/ FutureSouth Communications | ISPHelp ISP Consulting "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is because I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 13:47:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ionet.net (mail.ionet.net [206.41.128.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C91D415E61 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:47:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ericp1@ionet.net) Received: from technician (dhcp170.dhcp.ionet.net [38.193.1.170]) by ionet.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA16160 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:35:00 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: From: "Eric Phillips" To: Subject: Addition to the online handbook Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:27:32 -0500 Message-ID: <000401bee9af$b8f89500$aa01c126@ionet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I just got through installing the latest build of FreeBSD last night, and am a complete novice, tho I have been dealing with computers for the last 10 years. The only section of the installation procedure that I had to call a BSD savvy friend for was when I had to allocate space to the individual slices on the drives and mount them. After going through it, it all seems very simple, but at the time, I had no clue what I should do after I had switched the drives over to a BSD filesystem. If a section that explained slices, their average sizes, and their use in the BSD filesystem were to be put in the online handbook, this would probably help someone like myself in the future. Thanks, Eric Phillips To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 14: 9:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA55B14CA4; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:09:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA54253; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:07:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:07:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199908182107.OAA54253@freefall.freebsd.org> To: yt-kage@cb3.so-net.ne.jp, mpp@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13212: There is a descriptive mistake in ip.4 manual. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: There is a descriptive mistake in ip.4 manual. State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: mpp State-Changed-When: Wed Aug 18 14:06:30 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Already fixed in rev 1.11 of ip.4 in May 1999. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 14:27: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD02914C48; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:26:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonathanek@mindspring.com) Received: from default (user-2ive8u3.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.35.195]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA14791; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:27:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000201bee9c0$7975aba0$c323f7a5@default> Reply-To: "Jonathan Kopka" From: "Jonathan Kopka" To: Cc: Subject: Thanks for the FAQ Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:26:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I wasn't sure who to write to to thank for the information regarding using the boot -v option and the BIOS cylinder translation info along with the slice -> fdisk -> "g" option. (FAQ sections 2.15 and 8.10) Many thanks to the FreeBSD team for that information, installed 3.2-RELEASE today (got it right the second time around with the "g" option). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 15: 1:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5293314D29; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:01:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@stampede.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA06246; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:01:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca44-42.ix.netcom.com(209.111.212.170) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma006159; Wed Aug 18 17:00:45 1999 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.6.9) id PAA59272; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:00:37 -0700 (PDT) To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Default FDP docs installation directory? References: <19990818121931.A4266@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> From: asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) Date: 18 Aug 1999 15:00:36 -0700 In-Reply-To: Nik Clayton's message of "Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:19:31 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 33 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * From: Nik Clayton * With the repo-change comes an opportunity to change where our docs * are installed. Why don't you discuss these stuff BEFORE you make the changes? * Historically, the documentation has been installed in to /usr/doc. This Wrong. They have been installed in /usr/share/doc. * Does anyone have any objections to /usr/local/share/doc/fdp/ as the root * path for the documentation? 'fdp' is a little bit cryptic, but I like * TLAs, and the only other alternative I could think of ('docproj', or * 'doc-proj') is quite ugly. fdp is even uglier, and I can't recall anyone other than you using that particular acronym. * One more thing -- A mid-term goal is for the pre-built docs (HTML, PS, PDF * and so on) to be distributed as binary packages, to be managed using the * pkg_* family. I'm pretty certain this precludes putting the documentation * anywhere other than a subdirectory of /usr/local/, so the old /usr/doc/ * directory is right out. As a mid-term goal, everything in the system is going to be packages (if we believe what Jordan is saying) so where it's going is irrelevant. Please keep stuff in /usr/share/doc. I don't see any reason to change that, especially not with all the other changes going on around now. Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 15: 5:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E99C14D4B; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:05:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA58602; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:03:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:03:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199908182203.PAA58602@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mpp@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, mpp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13218: Many manpages still not conformed mdoc(7) style Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Many manpages still not conformed mdoc(7) style Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->mpp Responsible-Changed-By: mpp Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Aug 18 15:03:00 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take care of getting these fixed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 15: 8:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF3714E3F; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:08:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA81309; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:08:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Nik Clayton Cc: Kris Kennaway , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FAQ only for FreeBSD 2.x? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:07:21 BST." <19990818200721.A49279@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:08:29 -0700 Message-ID: <81306.935014109@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I agree. What we also need is someone to go through it and identify > which answers in the FAQ were 2.x specific, or no longer apply because > the problem's been fixed. > > Any volunteers? If somebody doesn't volunteer, not to worry. We at Walnut Creek CDROM have just hired a body to do this kind of work full-time. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 15:11:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AFC314E3F; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:10:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id BAA08572; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 01:11:41 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id BAA04851; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 01:04:01 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199908182104.BAA04851@scorpion.crimea.ua> Subject: Re: Default FDP docs installation directory? In-Reply-To: <19990818121931.A4266@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> from Nik Clayton at "Aug 18, 99 12:19:31 pm" To: nik@FreeBSD.ORG (Nik Clayton) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 01:04:01 +0400 (MSD) Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Alexey M. Zelkin" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, > Historically, the documentation has been installed in to /usr/doc. This Maybe /usr/share/doc ? > includes the standard BSD documentation, and the FreeBSD specific > stuff, such as the FAQ and the Handbook. > The Makefile's I've committed so far install the docs in to > > /usr/local/share/doc/fdp//// Why /usr/local/share/doc ? Only ports documentation is going there as I remember. Really I don't see any reason to install documentation to new location, because of it's not 3rd party product docs. Next point: if we're still using /usr/share/doc we need not to add new entity - "fdp". I sure that it's better to enter $ lynx file:///usr/share/doc/en/ than $ lynx file:///usr/local/share/doc/fdp/en/ First is more intuitive, I think. > where > > en_US.ISO_8859-1 and friends > > books/, articles/, man/ > > faq/, handbook/, programming-tools/ > > In addition, a language compatability symlink is installed. So > /usr/local/share/doc/fdp/en is a symlink to > /usr/local/share/doc/fdp/en_US.ISO_8859-1, and > /usr/local/share/doc/fdp/ja_JP.eucJP is a symlink to > /usr/local/share/doc/fdp/ja (yes, Japanese team, I hadn't forgotten your > comments and concerns). Just idea: make something like "default" handbook, FAQ, tutorial (sure that it should be english handbook by default) .../doc/en/handbook -> .../doc/handbook .../doc/en/FAQ -> .../doc/FAQ .../doc/en/tutorial -> .../doc/tutorial > This is the best scheme I could come up. It keeps the FDP stuff > away from documentation from other packages that might be installed (for > example, /usr/local/share/doc/{mutt,apache,jade,bzip2} and others all exist > on my system), and it's extendable. Looks like FreeBSD Documentaion is going to stay port. :-) > One more thing -- A mid-term goal is for the pre-built docs (HTML, PS, PDF > and so on) to be distributed as binary packages, to be managed using the > pkg_* family. I'm pretty certain this precludes putting the documentation > anywhere other than a subdirectory of /usr/local/, so the old /usr/doc/ > directory is right out. $LOCALBASE variable will help you, I hope. By default it setting in /usr/local, but it can be overridden to i.e. /usr/share. -- Sincerely Yours, | phantom@crimea.edu (primary) Alexey Zelkin | phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua (home) | ICQ: #6196584, FIDO: 2:460/12.26 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 15:35:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFDF714F1F; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:35:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@stampede.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA20217; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:35:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca44-42.ix.netcom.com(209.111.212.170) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma020202; Wed Aug 18 17:35:16 1999 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.6.9) id PAA59633; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:35:06 -0700 (PDT) To: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: HEADS UP: DocBook FAQ translations required ASAP References: <19990817224925.A89707@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990818115120.B694@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> From: asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) Cc: doc@freebsd.org, doc-jp@jp.freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Nik Clayton's message of "Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:51:20 +0100" X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.4 Date: 18 Aug 1999 15:35:06 -0700 Message-ID: Lines: 45 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org (Nik, ignore the first one -- forgot to CC: the lists.) * From: Nik Clayton Nik, the biggest issue is "why did you do it this way"? There are three things that are/have to be done: translations to be synced, conversion of format, and the directory change. By linking the second and third together, you are interfering with the first. And by careful planning and judicious use of tags and freezes, we could have made the whole process much easier. Now the Japanese team is stuck with two sets of FAQs (English and Japanese), which were not synced properly, and are in different formats. You see the problem? * > * Translators -- with the repo-change almost complete, it's imperative that * > * we migrate the FAQs in the repository to DocBook, and to their correct * > * place in the repository, as soon as possible. * > * > Hey, why didn't you say something about this before? * * I have done. Both on the list (it was a while ago, I admit) and privately * to the various committers that will be doing the work over the past couple * of months. This sentence doesn't make sense. Is it past tense, or are you talking about the future? * Originally, the message was only going to go to those committers -- then I * thought it might be handy to have it stuck in the -doc mailing list archive * in case anyone ever wanted to refer back to it in the future. I know that * some of the Linux Documentation Project people are watching our conversion * effort with some interest, hoping to avoid any mistakes we make, and to get * a feel for how easy it is. * * You're right in that my message probably reads a little oddly to regular * -doc readers who I haven't been chatting to over the past few months. * Sorry about that -- the decision to send it to -doc as well was a little * spur of the moment. Which Japanese committer have you talked to? Names please. The Japanese doc list is buzzing like a beehive right now because people there is upset by you suddenly bringing this up. Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 15:50:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51CC114EA3; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:50:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA81523; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:50:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, doc-jp@jp.freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: DocBook FAQ translations required ASAP In-reply-to: Your message of "18 Aug 1999 15:35:06 PDT." Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:50:41 -0700 Message-ID: <81519.935016641@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Which Japanese committer have you talked to? Names please. The > Japanese doc list is buzzing like a beehive right now because > people there is upset by you suddenly bringing this up. I certainly find this strange since Nik has been talking about it for weeks and weeks now. People need to subscribe to the doc list if they're doc people, and that applies regardless of whatever native language they might speak. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 16:27:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp13.bellglobal.com (smtp13.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E200B14E3C; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 16:27:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vanderh@ecf.toronto.edu) Received: from ppp18344.on.bellglobal.com (ppp18329.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.130.9]) by smtp13.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA16971; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:28:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by ppp18344.on.bellglobal.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id TAA18115; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:28:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tim) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:28:41 -0400 From: Tim Vanderhoek To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Default FDP docs installation directory? Message-ID: <19990818192840.D15097@ppp18344.on.bellglobal.com> Reply-To: hoek@freebsd.org References: <19990818121931.A4266@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <19990818121931.A4266@kilt.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 12:19:31PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 12:19:31PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > > One more thing -- A mid-term goal is for the pre-built docs (HTML, PS, PDF > and so on) to be distributed as binary packages, to be managed using the > pkg_* family. I'm pretty certain this precludes putting the documentation > anywhere other than a subdirectory of /usr/local/, so the old /usr/doc/ > directory is right out. No, it doesn't preclude any locations. Whether the packages are custom built or built by through the ports system, it is possible for them to be in any arbitrary location. With a little care, it is also possible for a pkg_install(1) user to install them into any *other* arbitrary location. -- This is my .signature which gets appended to the end of my messages. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 16:31:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9B5B14FCF for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 16:29:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id CAA17928 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 02:31:44 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id CAA05664 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 02:23:57 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199908182223.CAA05664@scorpion.crimea.ua> Subject: BSD $2 To: doc@FreeBSD.org Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 02:23:57 +0400 (MSD) From: "Alexey M. Zelkin" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, We have restriction that ".Os" macro with $1 == BSD will has required second parameter, i.e. 3, 4, 4.4. But I just have a question -- which value will have .Os macro as first/second parameter when driver developed for NetBSD and imported to FreeBSD ? I think better way is BSD without second parameter. PS: Example is en.4 Index: doc-common =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/CVSROOT/src/contrib/groff/tmac/doc-common,v retrieving revision 1.15 diff -c -r1.15 doc-common *** doc-common 1999/05/14 17:35:17 1.15 --- doc-common 1999/08/18 22:23:08 *************** *** 225,231 **** . if "\\$2"4.3t" .ds oS 4.3-Tahoe Berkeley Distribution . if "\\$2"4.3r" .ds oS 4.3-Reno Berkeley Distribution . if "\\$2"4.4" .ds oS 4.4BSD - . if "\\*(oS"Null" .tm Unknown BSD version ``\\$2'' at line \\n(c. .\} .if "\\$1"FreeBSD" \{\ . if "\\$2"2" .ds oS FreeBSD 2.0 --- 225,230 ---- -- Sincerely Yours, | phantom@crimea.edu (primary) Alexey Zelkin | phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua (home) | ICQ: #6196584, FIDO: 2:460/12.26 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 16:48: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca44-42.ix.netcom.com [209.111.212.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F1E814FC3; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 16:47:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@stampede.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.6.9) id QAA60145; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 16:47:44 -0700 (PDT) To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, doc-jp@jp.freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: DocBook FAQ translations required ASAP References: <81519.935016641@localhost> From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) In-Reply-To: "Jordan K. Hubbard"'s message of "Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:50:41 -0700" X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.4 Date: 18 Aug 1999 16:47:43 -0700 Message-ID: Lines: 22 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" * I certainly find this strange since Nik has been talking about it for * weeks and weeks now. People need to subscribe to the doc list if * they're doc people, and that applies regardless of whatever native * language they might speak. Jordan, please read the messages carefully. I'm talking about converting FAQ to docbook right in the middle of the directory change not about the directory change itself. That this wasn't discussed in -doc is admitted by Nik himself: > You're right in that my message probably reads a little oddly to regular > -doc readers who I haven't been chatting to over the past few months. > Sorry about that -- the decision to send it to -doc as well was a little > spur of the moment. Many Japanese people are on the -doc list, including myself. Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 17: 1:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mpp.pro-ns.net (mpp.pro-ns.net [208.200.182.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29ABF15AD4 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:01:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@mpp.pro-ns.net) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by mpp.pro-ns.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA27390; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:01:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mpp) From: Mike Pritchard Message-Id: <199908190001.TAA27390@mpp.pro-ns.net> Subject: Re: BSD $2 In-Reply-To: <199908182223.CAA05664@scorpion.crimea.ua> from "Alexey M. Zelkin" at "Aug 19, 1999 02:23:57 am" To: phantom@cris.net (Alexey M. Zelkin) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:01:10 -0500 (CDT) Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > We have restriction that ".Os" macro with $1 == BSD will > has required second parameter, i.e. 3, 4, 4.4. But > I just have a question -- which value will have .Os > macro as first/second parameter when driver developed for NetBSD > and imported to FreeBSD ? > > I think better way is BSD without second parameter. > > PS: Example is en.4 I think that the only man pages that should be specifiying "BSD" with the .Os macro are those the came from 4.4BSD-Lite[12]. en.4 should have either specified FreeBSD or just called .Os with no parameters when it was created. We currently have a number of man pages in the system that specify ".Os NetBSD". We have been inconsistent in the past how we have imported these. Sometimes we leave the NetBSD attribution, sometimes we change it to FreeBSD, and sometimes we just change it to not specify an operating system (which pretty much amounts to the same thing as changing it to FreeBSD). -Mike -- Mike Pritchard mpp@FreeBSD.ORG or mpp@mpp.pro-ns.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 17: 8:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD56D14C24; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:08:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA87646; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 00:21:13 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 00:21:12 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: "Matthew D. Fuller" Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Default FDP docs installation directory? Message-ID: <19990819002112.B83680@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990818121931.A4266@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <19990818151819.C2750@futuresouth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990818151819.C2750@futuresouth.com>; from Matthew D. Fuller on Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 03:18:19PM -0500 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 03:18:19PM -0500, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: > On Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 12:19:31PM +0100, a little birdie told me > that Nik Clayton remarked > > > > Does anyone have any objections to /usr/local/share/doc/fdp/ as the root > > path for the documentation? 'fdp' is a little bit cryptic, but I like > > TLAs, and the only other alternative I could think of ('docproj', or > > 'doc-proj') is quite ugly. > > Why /usr/local/share instead of /usr/share? Because it's not part of the base system (i.e., under the src/ tree in the repository). I was under the impression that this is a reasonably formal rule (i.e., anything that's not in src/ gets installed under /usr/local/ (or wherever the appropriate Makefile variable is set to)) but that some things ignore it. For example, the Japanese manual pages install under /usr/share/man/ja, not /usr/local/share/man/ja. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 17: 9: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA31159C4; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:08:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA96539; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 01:05:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 01:05:30 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Jesus Rodriguez Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DocBook FAQ available for critique Message-ID: <19990819010530.E83680@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990817231204.B89707@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Jesus Rodriguez on Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 03:00:17PM +0200 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 03:00:17PM +0200, Jesus Rodriguez wrote: > On 17-Aug-99 Nik Clayton wrote: > > The formatting is not final, and there are a number of issues to thrash > > out (for example, "What is the purpose of this FAQ?" is listed as a numbered > > question). But this is the beginning of the end. . . for LinuxDoc![1] > > Curiosity: > What's the difference between and ? The Foo Chapter ... The Bar Chapter ... For more information, see . In that context, the final paragraph is converted to For more information, see _the chapter called The Foo Chapter_. If that last had been written More information about foo is available. then it would be converted to _More information about foo_ is available. Basically, with the stylesheet tries to work out what the content of the link should be, with you explicitly state it. Of course, only works if you are xref'ing to elements that have a title. Most of the s in the FAQ are to elements that don't have a title (the translation spec is broken in this respect) which is why you get the error. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 17:10:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D8214E49; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:08:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA87199; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 00:17:34 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 00:17:34 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: "Alexey M. Zelkin" Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Default FDP docs installation directory? Message-ID: <19990819001734.A83680@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990818121931.A4266@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <199908182104.BAA04851@scorpion.crimea.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199908182104.BAA04851@scorpion.crimea.ua>; from Alexey M. Zelkin on Thu, Aug 19, 1999 at 01:04:01AM +0400 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Aug 19, 1999 at 01:04:01AM +0400, Alexey M. Zelkin wrote: > > Historically, the documentation has been installed in to /usr/doc. This > > Maybe /usr/share/doc ? Yes, my typo. > > includes the standard BSD documentation, and the FreeBSD specific > > stuff, such as the FAQ and the Handbook. > > > The Makefile's I've committed so far install the docs in to > > > > /usr/local/share/doc/fdp//// > > Why /usr/local/share/doc ? Only ports documentation is going there as I > remember. Really I don't see any reason to install documentation to new > location, because of it's not 3rd party product docs. Isn't it? It's not tightly integrated into the system any more, and I'm wary of anything trying to install in /usr/share/ that's not part of the main src/ tree. > Next point: if we're still using /usr/share/doc we need not to > add new entity - "fdp". I sure that it's better to enter > > $ lynx file:///usr/share/doc/en/ > > than > > $ lynx file:///usr/local/share/doc/fdp/en/ > > First is more intuitive, I think. If the sysadmin wants this as local policy they can enforce it with a symlink (possibly as a selectable option in doc/Makefile, to make the link automatically). The idea is to be as precise as possible about where the docs are installed, and then let the admin pick a less precise location for a symlink as necessary. > Just idea: make something like "default" handbook, FAQ, tutorial (sure that it > should be english handbook by default) > > .../doc/en/handbook -> .../doc/handbook > .../doc/en/FAQ -> .../doc/FAQ > .../doc/en/tutorial -> .../doc/tutorial We could do that as well. It's certainly supportable under the current scheme. It's not right at the top of my todo list, but it's on there. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 17:10:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A81815978; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:08:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA96032; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 01:01:22 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 01:01:22 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp Cc: nik@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: DocBook FAQ translations required ASAP Message-ID: <19990819010121.D83680@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990817224925.A89707@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <14266.47626.569100.72159A@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <14266.47626.569100.72159A@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp>; from kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp on Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 10:50:02PM +0900 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 10:50:02PM +0900, kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp wrote: > At Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:49:25 +0100, > Nik Clayton wrote: > > IMPORTANT: The doc/ tree is *still* frozen. The only commits allowed > > in doc/ at the moment are from (a) me, (b) a nominated member of one of > > the translation teams, carrying out the instructions below. The tree > > will be thawed as soon as possible, which basically means when this > > work is carried out. > > I think I cannot do this work in 3 hours like you. Because the conversion is almost completely mechanical, I can do it on your behalf, for you to review, if that's OK? There's one textual change -- the "Micron" question entry that I note. By removing some of the preceeding text the first sentence in the English version was altered slightly. If I do the bulk of the LinuxDoc to DocBook translation, can you fix this one sentence? If you can't, then... > Please remove > "ja_JP.eucJP" entry from top Makefile of FAQ and unfreeze repository. ... I'll do that. > > If you're going to be doing the conversion of a translated FAQ, please let > > me know, so I can keep track of who's doing what. Thanks. > > Currently, it seems only I can do this work, so I'll do. But this > means most of my tasks will slow down such as update & fix ports, MFC > PAO and others, catch up other doc, www, man. Would more people on the Japanese team be useful? One of the things the Open Source Writers Guild is looking at doing is match up translators with projects, and I can post there to see if there's anyone interested in helping out. Of course, presumably you'd end up reviewing their work, which might be an even larger workload. Let me know if you'd like me to start asking around. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 17:10:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8B961502D; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:08:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA95563; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 00:57:36 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 00:57:35 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Default FDP docs installation directory? Message-ID: <19990819005735.C83680@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990818121931.A4266@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami on Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 03:00:36PM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 03:00:36PM -0700, Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami wrote: > * From: Nik Clayton > > * With the repo-change comes an opportunity to change where our docs > * are installed. > > Why don't you discuss these stuff BEFORE you make the changes? It's an opportunity -- it's not something we *have* to do. I'm posting this for wider discussion because we now have an implementation that makes it fairly trivial to actually make the change. If this had been discussed before the repo move, we would have had a nice long thread discussing the various pros and cons, and no conclusion would have emerged, because no one could try out the various options to see what happens. Well, now you can. Check out the repository, and try make DOC_INSTALL_PREFIX=/tmp/foo install and then look at the directory structure in /tmp/foo/ (some of the FAQs might not honour DOC_INSTALL_PREFIX yet, but this is proof of concept only). Take a look at the created directory structure, and have a think about where in the tree you'd like that grafted. The top level of that tree looks like en_US.ISO_8859-1/ es_ES.ISO_8859-1/ ja/ ru_RU.KOI8-R/ zh_TW.Big5/ and includes the compatability symlinks (which I haven't shown above). I don't think that's terribly informative on their own, which is why I think dropping those directories straight in to /usr/share/doc/ or /usr/local/share/doc/ is a bad idea. I think they need to be need sub-directories of a directory which indicates (in the same way that "mutt/" indicates you're going to be looking at documentation put together by the Mutt maintainers) that you're going to be seeing documentation put together by the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Which is why I think some variation on /usr/share/doc/fdp/ or /usr/local/share/doc/fdp/ is appropriate. The FDP documentation is then kept separate from documentation that is not maintained by the FDP. > * Historically, the documentation has been installed in to /usr/doc. This > > Wrong. They have been installed in /usr/share/doc. Yes, think-o on my part. > * Does anyone have any objections to /usr/local/share/doc/fdp/ as the root > * path for the documentation? 'fdp' is a little bit cryptic, but I like > * TLAs, and the only other alternative I could think of ('docproj', or > * 'doc-proj') is quite ugly. > > fdp is even uglier, and I can't recall anyone other than you using > that particular acronym. Alternatives? "docproj"? "doc-proj"? "doc-project"? Something better? > * One more thing -- A mid-term goal is for the pre-built docs (HTML, PS, PDF > * and so on) to be distributed as binary packages, to be managed using the > * pkg_* family. I'm pretty certain this precludes putting the documentation > * anywhere other than a subdirectory of /usr/local/, so the old /usr/doc/ > * directory is right out. > > As a mid-term goal, everything in the system is going to be packages > (if we believe what Jordan is saying) so where it's going is > irrelevant. > > Please keep stuff in /usr/share/doc. I don't see any reason to change > that, especially not with all the other changes going on around now. That will lead to /usr/share/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/ es_ES.ISO_8859-1/ ja/ papers/ psd/ ru_RU.KOI8-R smm/ usd/ zh_TW.Big/ and so on. We can do it, but I'm not convinced it's a good idea. I stress that doesn't mean we won't do it, just that I don't think it's a good idea. However, if the consensus on this list is that it's a good idea then we can do that. Of course, it would also be possible during "make install" time to designate one language as the default, which could lead to /usr/share/doc/articles@ -> en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/ books@ -> en_US.ISO-8859-1/books/ en_US.ISO_8859-1 es_ES.ISO_8859-1/ ja/ papers/ psd/ ru_RU.KOI8-R smm/ usd/ zh_TW.Big/ which might be more palatable. I don't know what we'll end up with -- but now we have a framework that's capable of actually implementing these sorts of changes relatively quickly, which means that as well as discussing the changes, people can actually put their money where their mouth is, and actually submit diffs to the framework, so the rest of us can test out their changes. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 17:12:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9416D14BE0; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:12:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA24788; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:13:09 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:13:08 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Default FDP docs installation directory? Message-ID: <19990818191308.A24561@futuresouth.com> References: <19990818121931.A4266@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <19990818151819.C2750@futuresouth.com> <19990819002112.B83680@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <19990819002112.B83680@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Thu, Aug 19, 1999 at 12:21:12AM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Aug 19, 1999 at 12:21:12AM +0100, a little birdie told me that Nik Clayton remarked > > Because it's not part of the base system (i.e., under the src/ tree in > the repository). I was under the impression that this is a reasonably > formal rule (i.e., anything that's not in src/ gets installed under > /usr/local/ (or wherever the appropriate Makefile variable is set to)) > but that some things ignore it. For example, the Japanese manual pages > install under /usr/share/man/ja, not /usr/local/share/man/ja. It seems to me more of a 'We (The Project [tm]) maintain this, so it goes under /usr/(!local)'; i.e., it may not be part of the 'base system', but it is part of the 'base distribution'. It's a sticky subject anyway, as the line between 'base system' and 'addon packages' becomes blurred, but I'd expect the 'vendor-supplied/maintained/blessed' documentation for my system to not be under /usr/local. -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Unix Systems Administrator | fullermd@futuresouth.com Specializing in FreeBSD | http://www.over-yonder.net/ FutureSouth Communications | ISPHelp ISP Consulting "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is because I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 17:17: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319A21506C; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:16:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA98027; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 01:15:47 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 01:15:47 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Jesus Rodriguez Cc: Bill Fumerola , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, Nik Clayton Subject: Re: DocBook FAQ available for critique Message-ID: <19990819011547.A97704@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Jesus Rodriguez on Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 12:45:51AM +0200 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 12:45:51AM +0200, Jesus Rodriguez wrote: > On 17-Aug-99 Bill Fumerola wrote: > > On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: > > > >> The DocBook'd FAQ is available for critique at > > > > .1. I'd like to customize my kernel. Is it difficult? > > > > Is the '.1.' because this is an outline? > > And is possible remark (bold or some thing else) the questions into the text?. > It's difficult reconigze where begins and ends every question. It is. I haven't committed this yet, because if people don't like it I'd have to back it out. Try adding the attached patch to freebsd.dsl, and then rebuild the FAQ (or the fdp-primer, the translations section uses a Q/A format) and let me know what you think. This is probably highly specific to v1.40 of the modular stylesheets, and may not work if you have a different version of them installed. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=diff Index: freebsd.dsl =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl,v retrieving revision 1.6 diff -u -r1.6 freebsd.dsl --- freebsd.dsl 1999/04/08 14:17:50 1.6 +++ freebsd.dsl 1999/08/18 18:44:22 @@ -57,7 +57,7 @@ ]]> - + (define %may-format-variablelist-as-table% #f) @@ -121,9 +121,35 @@ (element maketarget ($mono-seq$)) (element makevar ($mono-seq$)) - + + + + + (define (qanda-defaultlabel) + (normalize "qanda")) + + + + --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 17:25: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca44-42.ix.netcom.com [209.111.212.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4798914C24; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:24:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@stampede.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.6.9) id RAA60753; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:25:03 -0700 (PDT) To: Nik Clayton Cc: "Matthew D. Fuller" , Nik Clayton , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Default FDP docs installation directory? References: <19990818121931.A4266@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <19990818151819.C2750@futuresouth.com> <19990819002112.B83680@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> From: asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) Date: 18 Aug 1999 17:25:02 -0700 In-Reply-To: Nik Clayton's message of "Thu, 19 Aug 1999 00:21:12 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 21 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * From: Nik Clayton * Because it's not part of the base system (i.e., under the src/ tree in * the repository). I was under the impression that this is a reasonably * formal rule (i.e., anything that's not in src/ gets installed under * /usr/local/ (or wherever the appropriate Makefile variable is set to)) * but that some things ignore it. The rule is reasonably blurred, since doc falls somewhere between src and ports. However, [Free]BSD docs have been installed under /usr/share/doc for a long time, and I don't see why this should be changed now even if the sources have moved slightly. * For example, the Japanese manual pages * install under /usr/share/man/ja, not /usr/local/share/man/ja. That is because they match stuff in /usr, not /usr/local. I think it's better to keep manuals and the programs they refer to close to each other in the hierarchy. Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 17:29:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D2DA14C24; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:29:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 66D8B1C19; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:31:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55ED63823; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:31:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:31:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami Cc: Nik Clayton , "Matthew D. Fuller" , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Default FDP docs installation directory? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 18 Aug 1999, Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami wrote: > The rule is reasonably blurred, since doc falls somewhere between src > and ports. However, [Free]BSD docs have been installed under > /usr/share/doc for a long time, and I don't see why this should be > changed now even if the sources have moved slightly. I can't agree more. This really bites on POLAness too. -- - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 17:34:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailgw.cablecom.ne.jp (mailgw.cablecom.ne.jp [202.248.199.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 839EE15266; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:34:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from motoyuki@snipe.rim.or.jp) Received: from srv2.cablecom.ne.jp by mailgw.cablecom.ne.jp (8.8.8/3.7W) id JAA00677; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:34:03 +0900 (JST) Received: from asuka.snipe.rim.or.jp by srv2.cablecom.ne.jp (8.8.8/3.7W) id JAA20332; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:34:02 +0900 (JST) Received: from rei.snipe.rim.or.jp (rei.snipe.rim.or.jp [192.168.11.11]) by asuka.snipe.rim.or.jp (8.9.3/3.7W) with ESMTP id JAA29700; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:33:57 +0900 (JST) Received: from rei.snipe.rim.or.jp (localhost.snipe.rim.or.jp [127.0.0.1]) by rei.snipe.rim.or.jp (8.9.3/3.7W) with ESMTP id JAA05073; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:33:56 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199908190033.JAA05073@rei.snipe.rim.or.jp> To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Default FDP docs installation directory? X-Mailer: mh-e on Mule 2.3 / Emacs 19.34.1 References: <19990818121931.A4266@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:33:56 +0900 From: Motoyuki Konno Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik, YOU WANT TO BREAK YOUR WORDS? I and most of Japanese doc team members agreed your CVS-repository-move idea because you said the default install directory of documents never move. Nik Clayton wrote: > The Makefile's I've committed so far install the docs in to > > /usr/local/share/doc/fdp//// > > where > > en_US.ISO_8859-1 and friends > > books/, articles/, man/ > > faq/, handbook/, programming-tools/ > > In addition, a language compatability symlink is installed. So > /usr/local/share/doc/fdp/en is a symlink to > /usr/local/share/doc/fdp/en_US.ISO_8859-1, and > /usr/local/share/doc/fdp/ja_JP.eucJP is a symlink to > /usr/local/share/doc/fdp/ja (yes, Japanese team, I hadn't forgotten your > comments and concerns). On July 4, I asked you in <199907031847.DAA12044@rei.snipe.rim.or.jp> > I understood this ("OK") means the default install directory > of documents will not move. Is this right? > > o The default install directory is [lang] ('ja' for Japanese). > o Make a symlink [lang]_[territory].[encoding] ('ja_JP.eucJP' > for Japanese). > # ln -s ja ja_JP.eucJP You answered in <19990704211602.M71138@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> > > I understood this ("OK") means the default install directory > > of documents will not move. Is this right? > > > > o The default install directory is [lang] ('ja' for Japanese). > > Correct. [snip] > > o Make a symlink [lang]_[territory].[encoding] ('ja_JP.eucJP' > > for Japanese). > > # ln -s ja ja_JP.eucJP > > Correct, in the first instance. In the very long run I'll be pushing for -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Motoyuki Konno mkonno@res.yamanashi-med.ac.jp (Univ) motoyuki@snipe.rim.or.jp (Home) motoyuki@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Project) Yamanashi Medical University http://www.freebsd.org/~motoyuki/ (WWW) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 17:43: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca44-42.ix.netcom.com [209.111.212.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE0214F51; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:42:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@stampede.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.6.9) id RAA60861; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:43:19 -0700 (PDT) To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org, doc-jp@jp.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Default FDP docs installation directory? References: <19990818121931.A4266@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <19990819005735.C83680@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> From: asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) Date: 18 Aug 1999 17:43:19 -0700 In-Reply-To: Nik Clayton's message of "Thu, 19 Aug 1999 00:57:35 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 92 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * From: Nik Clayton * It's an opportunity -- it's not something we *have* to do. I'm posting Oh yeah? You said you have just committed Makefiles that already install stuff into your preferred location. > The Makefile's I've committed so far install the docs in to > > /usr/local/share/doc/fdp//// * this for wider discussion because we now have an implementation that makes * it fairly trivial to actually make the change. * * If this had been discussed before the repo move, we would have had a nice * long thread discussing the various pros and cons, and no conclusion would * have emerged, because no one could try out the various options to see * what happens. Why do I need to try it out? I can see everything very clearly by just the examples you give below, thank you. * The top level of that tree looks like * * en_US.ISO_8859-1/ es_ES.ISO_8859-1/ ja/ * ru_RU.KOI8-R/ zh_TW.Big5/ * * and includes the compatability symlinks (which I haven't shown above). * * I don't think that's terribly informative on their own, which is why I * think dropping those directories straight in to /usr/share/doc/ or * /usr/local/share/doc/ is a bad idea. It looks very informative to me, if kept in /usr/share/doc. In fact, the "ja" part looks exactly like before. :) And you said the English docs are going to move to en_, which is also exactly what happens. * > fdp is even uglier, and I can't recall anyone other than you using * > that particular acronym. * * Alternatives? "docproj"? "doc-proj"? "doc-project"? Something better? I don't think we need a subdirectory. * That will lead to /usr/share/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/ * es_ES.ISO_8859-1/ * ja/ * papers/ * psd/ * ru_RU.KOI8-R * smm/ * usd/ * zh_TW.Big/ * * and so on. We can do it, but I'm not convinced it's a good idea. Maybe move papers, psd etc. to the English subdirectory too? * I stress that doesn't mean we won't do it, just that I don't think it's a * good idea. However, if the consensus on this list is that it's a good * idea then we can do that. * * Of course, it would also be possible during "make install" time to * designate one language as the default, which could lead to * * /usr/share/doc/articles@ -> en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/ * books@ -> en_US.ISO-8859-1/books/ * en_US.ISO_8859-1 * es_ES.ISO_8859-1/ * ja/ * papers/ * psd/ * ru_RU.KOI8-R * smm/ * usd/ * zh_TW.Big/ * * which might be more palatable. That's fine for me too. See, the point here is that non-English users have been using /usr/share/doc// for years to refer to their docs. They're used to it. Now it's the English speakers' turn to get used to it. Just because the English part of docproj moved doesn't mean you have to yank the chain to drag whole non-US/UK part of the world along with you. :) Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 17:44: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF9E14F51; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:43:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id DAA18758; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 03:45:13 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id DAA06280; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 03:36:29 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199908182336.DAA06280@scorpion.crimea.ua> Subject: Re: Default FDP docs installation directory? In-Reply-To: <19990819001734.A83680@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> from Nik Clayton at "Aug 19, 99 00:17:34 am" To: nik@freebsd.org (Nik Clayton) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 03:36:28 +0400 (MSD) Cc: doc@freebsd.org From: "Alexey M. Zelkin" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, > > > includes the standard BSD documentation, and the FreeBSD specific > > > stuff, such as the FAQ and the Handbook. > > > > > The Makefile's I've committed so far install the docs in to > > > > > > /usr/local/share/doc/fdp//// > > > > Why /usr/local/share/doc ? Only ports documentation is going there as I > > remember. Really I don't see any reason to install documentation to new > > location, because of it's not 3rd party product docs. > > Isn't it? It's not tightly integrated into the system any more, and I'm > wary of anything trying to install in /usr/share/ that's not part of the > main src/ tree. You want to say that doc/ was splited from src/ because -core took decision about deintegration docs from main system ? Or maybe FreeBSD will be distributed without doc dist ? What exactly you mean by "not integrated into system anymore" ? Documentation is required part of FreeBSD distribution. That's why it will be stored in /usr/share/doc. /usr/local already meant optional staff, localy installed staff. Isn't it ? > > Next point: if we're still using /usr/share/doc we need not to > > add new entity - "fdp". I sure that it's better to enter > > > > $ lynx file:///usr/share/doc/en/ > > > > than > > > > $ lynx file:///usr/local/share/doc/fdp/en/ > > > > First is more intuitive, I think. > > If the sysadmin wants this as local policy they can enforce it with a > symlink (possibly as a selectable option in doc/Makefile, to make the > link automatically). He'll have source tree to do it. Or docs now ships with Makefiles ? Almost FreeBSD users runing with -RELEASE, I think. Such kind of documentation - FAQ/handbook is more dedicated to newbie/non-professional users than professionals. Therefore we'll do it so as simple for users. > The idea is to be as precise as possible about where the docs are > installed, and then let the admin pick a less precise location for a > symlink as necessary. -- Sincerely Yours, | phantom@crimea.edu (primary) Alexey Zelkin | phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua (home) | ICQ: #6196584, FIDO: 2:460/12.26 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 17:52:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca44-42.ix.netcom.com [209.111.212.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8587115066; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:52:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@stampede.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.6.9) id RAA60888; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:49:52 -0700 (PDT) To: Nik Clayton Cc: "Alexey M. Zelkin" , Nik Clayton , doc@freebsd.org, doc-jp@jp.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Default FDP docs installation directory? References: <19990818121931.A4266@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <199908182104.BAA04851@scorpion.crimea.ua> <19990819001734.A83680@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> From: asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) Date: 18 Aug 1999 17:49:52 -0700 In-Reply-To: Nik Clayton's message of "Thu, 19 Aug 1999 00:17:34 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 28 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * From: Nik Clayton * > $ lynx file:///usr/share/doc/en/ * > * > than * > * > $ lynx file:///usr/local/share/doc/fdp/en/ * > * > First is more intuitive, I think. * * If the sysadmin wants this as local policy they can enforce it with a * symlink (possibly as a selectable option in doc/Makefile, to make the * link automatically). The issue is not about local policy, Nik. There are literally dozens of Japanese FreeBSD books and magazines out there that includes a variation of the first line up there as the command to read the handbook. (I don't know about other countries but I suspect the situation is the same.) When people buy a book, install the latest system and find out it doesn't work, they get pissed. And we (on the Japanese mailing lists) are the ones that hear about it. Or worse, they just go away and install Linux, and we never hear from them again. Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 17:59:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32AB615066 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:59:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id RAA74147; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 188F314F87; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:43:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <19990819004355.188F314F87@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:43:55 -0700 (PDT) From: wolman@cs.washington.edu To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/13245: Minor improvement to the utimes(2) man page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13245 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Minor improvement to the utimes(2) man page >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Aug 18 17:50:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Alec Wolman >Release: FreeBSD 3.2-19990810-STABLE >Organization: UW CSE Department >Environment: FreeBSD laver.cs.washington.edu 3.2-19990810-STABLE FreeBSD 3.2-19990810-STABLE #0: Thu Aug 12 02:33:49 PDT 1999 wolman@laver.cs.washington.edu:/usr/src/sys/compile/LAVER i386 >Description: The utimes prototype in the man page would be clearer if it were specified as: int utimes(const char *path, const struct timeval times[2]); instead of int utimes(const char *path, const struct timeval *times); The same is true for futimes and lutimes. >How-To-Repeat: N/A. >Fix: See above. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 18: 5:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from imap.ncsa.es (imap.ncsa.es [194.179.50.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D19FE156C6; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:05:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@chuck.jerocu.net) Received: from chuck.jerocu.net (chuck.jerocu.net [194.224.235.59]) by imap.ncsa.es (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA61124; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 03:04:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from jesusr@localhost) by chuck.jerocu.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA11500; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 02:49:42 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990819005735.C83680@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 02:49:42 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: jesusr@ncsa.es Organization: Nexus Comunicaciones, S.A. From: Jesus Rodriguez To: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: Default FDP docs installation directory? Cc: doc@freebsd.org, Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 18-Aug-99 Nik Clayton wrote: >> Please keep stuff in /usr/share/doc. I don't see any reason to change >> that, especially not with all the other changes going on around now. > > That will lead to /usr/share/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/ > es_ES.ISO_8859-1/ > ja/ > papers/ > psd/ > ru_RU.KOI8-R > smm/ > usd/ > zh_TW.Big/ > > and so on. We can do it, but I'm not convinced it's a good idea. I'm not sure if install docs on /usr/local/share or /usr/share/doc but would be a good thing use "fdp" subdirectory or some thing else for including all FreeBSD docs. If we don't do it this way, docs will be lost and hard to find on file system. From few time, FDP has become a known term to all us (doc people), so it's a good posibility. JesusR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 18:14:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca44-42.ix.netcom.com [209.111.212.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D7014DE4; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:14:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@stampede.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.6.9) id SAA61045; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:15:15 -0700 (PDT) To: jesusr@ncsa.es Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Default FDP docs installation directory? References: From: asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) Date: 18 Aug 1999 18:15:15 -0700 In-Reply-To: Jesus Rodriguez's message of "Thu, 19 Aug 1999 02:49:42 +0200 (CEST)" Message-ID: Lines: 10 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * From: Jesus Rodriguez * I'm not sure if install docs on /usr/local/share or /usr/share/doc but would be * a good thing use "fdp" subdirectory or some thing else for including all FreeBSD * docs. If we don't do it this way, docs will be lost and hard to find on file * system. Everything in /usr/share/doc is by definition a FreeBSD document. Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 18:45:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885B514F75; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:45:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (adsl-216-62-154-215.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) by mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.05.24.18.28.p7) with ESMTP id <0FGO00LDZVIHXI@mta2.rcsntx.swbell.net>; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:44:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA00628; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:45:58 -0500 (CDT envelope-from chris) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:45:58 -0500 From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: FAQ only for FreeBSD 2.x? In-reply-to: <81306.935014109@localhost>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 03:08:29PM -0700 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Nik Clayton , Kris Kennaway , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19990818204557.A99464@holly.dyndns.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.3i References: <19990818200721.A49279@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <81306.935014109@localhost> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Aug 18, 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > I agree. What we also need is someone to go through it and identify > > which answers in the FAQ were 2.x specific, or no longer apply because > > the problem's been fixed. > > > > Any volunteers? > > If somebody doesn't volunteer, not to worry. We at Walnut Creek CDROM > have just hired a body to do this kind of work full-time. :) I volunteered back when I joined the faq team (freebsd-faq) and as soon as all the doc repo changes are completely done and doc/ is unfrozen I'll be going through and working on the FAQ, as well as the handbook. > - Jordan -- |Chris Costello |Steinbach's Rule: Never test for an error condition you don't know how to handl `------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 19:14:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD60114F33; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:14:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA82257; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:15:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, doc-jp@jp.freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: DocBook FAQ translations required ASAP In-reply-to: Your message of "18 Aug 1999 16:47:43 PDT." Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:15:17 -0700 Message-ID: <82253.935028917@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sorry, now I understand.. - Jordan > * From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" > > * I certainly find this strange since Nik has been talking about it for > * weeks and weeks now. People need to subscribe to the doc list if > * they're doc people, and that applies regardless of whatever native > * language they might speak. > > Jordan, please read the messages carefully. I'm talking about > converting FAQ to docbook right in the middle of the directory change > not about the directory change itself. > > That this wasn't discussed in -doc is admitted by Nik himself: > > > > You're right in that my message probably reads a little oddly to regular > > -doc readers who I haven't been chatting to over the past few months. > > Sorry about that -- the decision to send it to -doc as well was a little > > spur of the moment. > > Many Japanese people are on the -doc list, including myself. > > Satoshi > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 19:26:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailgw.cablecom.ne.jp (mailgw.cablecom.ne.jp [202.248.199.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7823B14D92; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:26:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from motoyuki@snipe.rim.or.jp) Received: from srv2.cablecom.ne.jp by mailgw.cablecom.ne.jp (8.8.8/3.7W) id LAA02700; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:26:39 +0900 (JST) Received: from asuka.snipe.rim.or.jp by srv2.cablecom.ne.jp (8.8.8/3.7W) id LAA02550; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:26:37 +0900 (JST) Received: from rei.snipe.rim.or.jp (rei.snipe.rim.or.jp [192.168.11.11]) by asuka.snipe.rim.or.jp (8.9.3/3.7W) with ESMTP id LAA33738; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:26:29 +0900 (JST) Received: from rei.snipe.rim.or.jp (localhost.snipe.rim.or.jp [127.0.0.1]) by rei.snipe.rim.or.jp (8.9.3/3.7W) with ESMTP id LAA05267; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:26:29 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199908190226.LAA05267@rei.snipe.rim.or.jp> To: asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) Cc: Nik Clayton , "Alexey M. Zelkin" , doc@freebsd.org, doc-jp@jp.freebsd.org Subject: Re: Default FDP docs installation directory? X-Mailer: mh-e on Mule 2.3 / Emacs 19.34.1 References: <19990818121931.A4266@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <199908182104.BAA04851@scorpion.crimea.ua> <19990819001734.A83680@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:26:29 +0900 From: Motoyuki Konno Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) wrote: > * If the sysadmin wants this as local policy they can enforce it with a > * symlink (possibly as a selectable option in doc/Makefile, to make the > * link automatically). > > The issue is not about local policy, Nik. There are literally dozens > of Japanese FreeBSD books and magazines out there that includes a > variation of the first line up there as the command to read the > handbook. (I don't know about other countries but I suspect the > situation is the same.) > > When people buy a book, install the latest system and find out it > doesn't work, they get pissed. And we (on the Japanese mailing lists) > are the ones that hear about it. I think this is the most important. Any directory change confused many FreeBSD users, so WE HAVE TO VERY VERY CAREFUL TO CHANGE THE DEFAULT INSTALL DIRECTORY. We agreed Nik's CVS-repository-move idea because he says the location of documents never move. If he said he want to move the directory at the moment (before the CVS-repository-move were done), we never agree his idea. When the Japanese manual directory moved from /usr/(share|local|X11R6)/man/ja_JP.EUC to /usr/..../ja, many many Japanese users are confused with this problem. For another example, the system configuration file were /etc/sysconfig at first, then /etc/rc.conf, now /etc/default/rc.conf for the default values and /etc/rc.conf for the user-defined values. This change also confused many FreeBSD users... Of course, these changes were written in Release Notes, but FreeBSD beginners think their FreeBSD books are correct. # As the Release Notes exists in the electrical media such as Web, # Beginners feels more difficulty to refer the Release Notes. I think there were enough reason to change the location of system configuration file. But what about the doc directory change? Is there enough reason to change? I think not. I have never heard the opinion like "the location of FreeBSD handbook is bad. please move it" from FreeBSD users. I have heard many suggestion like "the location change confused me much. please do not move again." -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Motoyuki Konno mkonno@res.yamanashi-med.ac.jp (Univ) motoyuki@snipe.rim.or.jp (Home) motoyuki@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Project) Yamanashi Medical University http://www.freebsd.org/~motoyuki/ (WWW) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 19:40:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailgw.cablecom.ne.jp (mailgw.cablecom.ne.jp [202.248.199.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FA37155BB; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:40:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from motoyuki@snipe.rim.or.jp) Received: from srv2.cablecom.ne.jp by mailgw.cablecom.ne.jp (8.8.8/3.7W) id LAA02915; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:41:21 +0900 (JST) Received: from asuka.snipe.rim.or.jp by srv2.cablecom.ne.jp (8.8.8/3.7W) id LAA03137; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:41:19 +0900 (JST) Received: from rei.snipe.rim.or.jp (rei.snipe.rim.or.jp [192.168.11.11]) by asuka.snipe.rim.or.jp (8.9.3/3.7W) with ESMTP id LAA34308; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:41:18 +0900 (JST) Received: from rei.snipe.rim.or.jp (localhost.snipe.rim.or.jp [127.0.0.1]) by rei.snipe.rim.or.jp (8.9.3/3.7W) with ESMTP id LAA05315; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:41:18 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199908190241.LAA05315@rei.snipe.rim.or.jp> To: asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@freebsd.org, doc-jp@jp.freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: DocBook FAQ translations required ASAP X-Mailer: mh-e on Mule 2.3 / Emacs 19.34.1 References: <19990817224925.A89707@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990818115120.B694@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:41:18 +0900 From: Motoyuki Konno Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) wrote: > (Nik, ignore the first one -- forgot to CC: the lists.) > > * From: Nik Clayton > > Nik, the biggest issue is "why did you do it this way"? There are > three things that are/have to be done: translations to be synced, > conversion of format, and the directory change. By linking the second > and third together, you are interfering with the first. And by > careful planning and judicious use of tags and freezes, we could have > made the whole process much easier. > > Now the Japanese team is stuck with two sets of FAQs (English and > Japanese), which were not synced properly, and are in different > formats. You see the problem? This is the reason why Japanese doc team feels difficulty to rewrite the FreeBSD FAQ. If we knew we have to rewrite the FAQ, we would sync the Japanese FAQ to the English version before the CVS repository change. The rewrite-work would be more simple and more easy. I wonder why Nik did not tell us before the CVS repository change. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Motoyuki Konno mkonno@res.yamanashi-med.ac.jp (Univ) motoyuki@snipe.rim.or.jp (Home) motoyuki@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Project) Yamanashi Medical University http://www.freebsd.org/~motoyuki/ (WWW) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Aug 18 19:52:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp11.bellglobal.com (smtp11.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAEF215496; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:52:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vanderh@ecf.toronto.edu) Received: from ppp18344.on.bellglobal.com (ppp18409.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.130.89]) by smtp11.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA11491; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:55:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by ppp18344.on.bellglobal.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id WAA21025; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:53:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tim) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:53:13 -0400 From: Tim Vanderhoek To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Default FDP docs installation directory? Message-ID: <19990818225313.C20849@ppp18344.on.bellglobal.com> Reply-To: hoek@freebsd.org References: <19990818121931.A4266@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <19990819005735.C83680@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <19990819005735.C83680@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Thu, Aug 19, 1999 at 12:57:35AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Aug 19, 1999 at 12:57:35AM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > > that you're going to > be seeing documentation put together by the FreeBSD Documentation Project. > > Which is why I think some variation on /usr/share/doc/fdp/ or > /usr/local/share/doc/fdp/ is appropriate. The FDP documentation is then > kept separate from documentation that is not maintained by the FDP. FWIW: I agree with the chorus: a) /usr/local is not needed for packages to work b) /usr/share/doc implicitly means that the documentation is put together by the FreeBSD Documentation Project (since FreeBSD it otherwise generally incapable of producing documentation :-) There doesn't seem to be a good reason to violate POLA here. > That will lead to /usr/share/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/ > es_ES.ISO_8859-1/ > ja/ > papers/ > psd/ > ru_RU.KOI8-R > smm/ > usd/ > zh_TW.Big/ Only for people who install all of en, es, ja, ru, and zh. :) Perhaps one day it may even move to /usr/share/doc-en_US.ISO_8859-1/, and so on, since the doc subdir would ideally contain only one entry (minus symlinks): es_ES.iso_8859-1/ (or whatever the local language is)? -- This is my .signature which gets appended to the end of my messages. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 19 1:20: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A22E114F7D; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 01:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id BAA11459; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 01:19:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 01:19:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199908190819.BAA11459@freefall.freebsd.org> To: wolman@cs.washington.edu, mpp@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13245: Minor improvement to the utimes(2) man page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Minor improvement to the utimes(2) man page State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: mpp State-Changed-When: Thu Aug 19 01:16:41 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: After discussing this with Bruce Evans, I think that the current declarations should remain. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 19 2:15: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca44-42.ix.netcom.com [209.111.212.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4EB114E36; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 02:14:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@stampede.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.6.9) id CAA63168; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 02:14:45 -0700 (PDT) To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc-jp@jp.freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: DocBook FAQ translations required ASAP References: <19990817224925.A89707@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990818115120.B694@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <19990819000813.A82055@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> From: asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) Date: 19 Aug 1999 02:14:44 -0700 In-Reply-To: Nik Clayton's message of "Thu, 19 Aug 1999 00:08:13 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 14 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Seems Kuriyama-san already started working with you on the FAQ so I'll leave it to him. Just one question of mine in the previous message, that you didn't answer: > Which Japanese committer have you talked to? Names please. The > Japanese doc list is buzzing like a beehive right now because > people there is upset by you suddenly bringing this up. I'd very much like to know who you are talking about. I certainly didn't see anything like this brought up by that someone on the doc-jp list. Thanks, Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 19 5:30:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ender.ncsa.es (ender.ncsa.es [194.179.50.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 079E115102; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 05:30:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesusr@ncsa.es) Received: from ender.ncsa.es (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ender.ncsa.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02008; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:29:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jesusr@ncsa.es) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990819011547.A97704@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:29:22 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: jesusr@ncsa.es Organization: Nexus Comunicaciones, S.A. From: Jesus Rodriguez To: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: DocBook FAQ available for critique Cc: doc@freebsd.org, Bill Fumerola Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 19-Aug-99 Nik Clayton wrote: >> And is possible remark (bold or some thing else) the questions into the >> text?. >> It's difficult reconigze where begins and ends every question. > > It is. I haven't committed this yet, because if people don't like it I'd > have to back it out. > > Try adding the attached patch to freebsd.dsl, and then rebuild the FAQ > (or the fdp-primer, the translations section uses a Q/A format) and > let me know what you think. Hello... With patch applied, FAQ looks much better than before. I like it!. You can view it at: http://ender.ncsa.es/faq-en/ JesusR. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 19 6:15: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E50014BCD for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 06:09:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id OAA26069 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:24:15 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id NAA00856 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:14:39 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199908190914.NAA00856@scorpion.crimea.ua> Subject: -man pages To: doc@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:14:39 +0400 (MSD) From: "Alexey M. Zelkin" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, I've reviewed -man style pages and found that we still have a lot of them. I am interesting which ones need to be converted to -mdoc ? Of course I know that contrib/ not allowed to be directly chnaged, but maybe contrib maintainers also can interesting in -mdoc conversion ? Following pages still not converted to -mdoc: share/me/me.7 contrib/amd/scripts/expn.1 contrib/awk/doc/awk.1 contrib/bc/bc.1 contrib/bc/dc.1 contrib/binutils/binutils/addr2line.1 contrib/binutils/binutils/ar.1 contrib/binutils/binutils/nm.1 contrib/binutils/binutils/objcopy.1 contrib/binutils/binutils/objdump.1 contrib/binutils/binutils/ranlib.1 contrib/binutils/binutils/size.1 contrib/binutils/binutils/strings.1 contrib/binutils/binutils/strip.1 contrib/binutils/binutils/cxxfilt.1 contrib/binutils/gas/doc/as.1 contrib/binutils/ld/ld.1 contrib/bison/bison.1 contrib/cpio/cpio.1 contrib/cvs/man/cvs.1 contrib/cvs/man/cvs.5 contrib/cvs/man/cvsbug.8 contrib/egcs/gcc/cp/g++.1 contrib/egcs/gcc/cccp.1 contrib/egcs/gcc/gcc.1 contrib/egcs/gcc/f/g77.1 contrib/egcs/libio/dbz/dbz.1 contrib/gdb/gdb/gdb.1 contrib/gdb/gdb/gdbserver/gdbserver.1 contrib/gpref/gref.1 contrib/ipfilter/ipsend/ipresend.1 contrib/ipfilter/ipsend/ipsend.1 contrib/ipfilter/ipsend/ipsend.5 contrib/ipfilter/ipsend/iptest.1 contrib/ipfilter/man/ipf.1 contrib/ipfilter/man/ipf.4 contrib/ipfilter/man/ipf.5 contrib/ipfilter/man/ipf.8 contrib/ipfilter/man/ipfilter.5 contrib/ipfilter/man/ipfstat.8 contrib/ipfilter/man/ipftest.1 contrib/ipfilter/man/ipl.4 contrib/ipfilter/man/ipmon.8 contrib/ipfilter/man/ipnat.1 contrib/ipfilter/man/ipnat.4 contrib/ipfilter/man/ipnat.5 contrib/ipfilter/man/mkfilters.1 contrib/isc-dhcp/client/dhclient-script.8 contrib/isc-dhcp/client/dhclient.8 contrib/isc-dhcp/client/dhclient.conf.5 contrib/isc-dhcp/client/dhclient.leases.5 contrib/isc-dhcp/common/dhcp-options.5 contrib/libpam/doc/man/pam.8 contrib/libpam/doc/man/pam_authenticate.3 contrib/libpam/doc/man/pam_chauthtok.3 contrib/libpam/doc/man/pam_fail_delay.3 contrib/libpam/doc/man/pam_open_session.3 contrib/libpam/doc/man/pam_setcred.3 contrib/libpam/doc/man/pam_start.3 contrib/libpam/doc/man/pam_strerror.3 contrib/libpcap/pcap.3 contrib/libreadline/readline.3 contrib/nvi/docs/USD.doc/vi.man/vi.1 contrib/opie/opie.4 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owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 19 6:22: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1385D14CEA for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 06:21:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id GAA36374; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 06:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA2E714D36 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 06:09:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id OAA26098 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:26:46 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id OAA01428; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:16:43 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199908191016.OAA01428@scorpion.crimea.ua> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:16:43 +0400 (MSD) From: "Alexey M. Zelkin" Reply-To: "Alexey M. Zelkin" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/13255: [PATCH] ports.7 cleanup Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13255 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Some actualization of ports.7 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Aug 19 06:20:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Alexey Zelkin >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT >Organization: Home >Environment: >Description: depends-list is not valid make target for ports. This manpage seems smaller than many others ;) >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: ports.7 =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/CVSROOT/src/share/man/man7/ports.7,v retrieving revision 1.14 diff -c -r1.14 ports.7 *** ports.7 1999/08/15 10:48:24 1.14 --- ports.7 1999/01/19 09:17:56 *************** *** 137,145 **** .Bl -tag -width fetch-list .It Ar fetch-list Show list of files needed to be fetched in order to build the port. - .It Ar depends-list package-depends - Print a list of all the compile and run dependencies, and dependencies - of those dependencies. .It Ar clean Remove the expanded source code. This recurses to dependencies unless .Ev NOCLEANDEPENDS --- 137,142 ---- *************** *** 303,307 **** .Dq Porting Existing Software section of the handbook, and .Xr ports 7 . - .Pp - This man page is too long. --- 300,302 ---- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 19 6:22:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B9CA14D36 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 06:21:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id GAA36383; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 06:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C44D15164 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 06:09:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id OAA26085 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:25:31 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id OAA01251; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:01:13 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199908191001.OAA01251@scorpion.crimea.ua> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:01:13 +0400 (MSD) From: "Alexey M. Zelkin" Reply-To: "Alexey M. Zelkin" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/13256: [PATCH] security.7 style and copyright section modifications Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13256 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] security.7 style and copyright section modifications >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Aug 19 06:20:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Alexey Zelkin >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: Home >Environment: >Description: Copyright note replaced with /usr/share/examples/etc/bsd-style-copyright .Os -> .Os FreeBSD (I see .Nm/.Nd say that this document wrote for FreeBSD) Style modifications >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: security.7 =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/CVSROOT/src/share/man/man7/security.7,v retrieving revision 1.8 diff -c -r1.8 security.7 *** security.7 1999/08/18 05:55:02 1.8 --- security.7 1999/01/19 08:53:27 *************** *** 1,12 **** ! .\" Copyright (c) 1998, Matthew Dillon. Terms and conditions are those of ! .\" the BSD Copyright as specified in the file "/usr/src/COPYRIGHT" in ! .\" the source tree. .\" .\" $Id: security.7,v 1.8 1999/08/18 05:55:02 chris Exp $ .\" .Dd December 20, 1998 .Dt SECURITY 7 ! .Os .Sh NAME .Nm security .Nd introduction to security under FreeBSD --- 1,32 ---- ! .\" Copyright (c) 1998, Matthew Dillon. ! .\" All rights reserved. .\" + .\" Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without + .\" modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions + .\" are met: + .\" 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright + .\" notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. + .\" 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright + .\" notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the + .\" documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. + .\" + .\" THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE AUTHOR AND CONTRIBUTORS ``AS IS'' AND + .\" ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE + .\" IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE + .\" ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHOR OR CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE + .\" FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL + .\" DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS + .\" OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) + .\" HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT + .\" LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY + .\" OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF + .\" SUCH DAMAGE. + .\" .\" $Id: security.7,v 1.8 1999/08/18 05:55:02 chris Exp $ .\" .Dd December 20, 1998 .Dt SECURITY 7 ! .Os FreeBSD .Sh NAME .Nm security .Nd introduction to security under FreeBSD *************** *** 208,214 **** If you are running a machine through which people only login via sshd and never login via telnetd or rshd or rlogind, then turn off those services! .Pp ! .Bx Free now defaults to running ntalkd, comsat, and finger in a sandbox. Another program which may be a candidate for running in a sandbox is .Xr named 8 . --- 228,234 ---- If you are running a machine through which people only login via sshd and never login via telnetd or rshd or rlogind, then turn off those services! .Pp ! .Fx now defaults to running ntalkd, comsat, and finger in a sandbox. Another program which may be a candidate for running in a sandbox is .Xr named 8 . *************** *** 288,294 **** If an attacker breaks root he can do just about anything, but there are certain conveniences. For example, most modern kernels have a packet sniffing device driver built in. Under ! .Bx Free it is called the .Sq bpf --- 308,314 ---- If an attacker breaks root he can do just about anything, but there are certain conveniences. For example, most modern kernels have a packet sniffing device driver built in. Under ! .Fx it is called the .Sq bpf *************** *** 503,509 **** service and forget to update the firewall. You can still open up the high-numbered port range on the firewall to allow permissive-like operation without compromising your low ports. Also take note that ! .Bx Free allows you to control the range of port numbers used for dynamic binding via the various net.inet.ip.portrange sysctl's --- 523,529 ---- service and forget to update the firewall. You can still open up the high-numbered port range on the firewall to allow permissive-like operation without compromising your low ports. Also take note that ! .Fx allows you to control the range of port numbers used for dynamic binding via the various net.inet.ip.portrange sysctl's *************** *** 534,540 **** outgoing network with ICMP responses. This type of attack can also crash the server by running it out of mbuf's, especially if the server cannot drain the ICMP responses it generates fast enough. The ! .Bx Free kernel has a new kernel compile option called ICMP_BANDLIM which limits the effectiveness of these sorts of attacks. The last major class of springboard attacks is related to --- 554,560 ---- outgoing network with ICMP responses. This type of attack can also crash the server by running it out of mbuf's, especially if the server cannot drain the ICMP responses it generates fast enough. The ! .Fx kernel has a new kernel compile option called ICMP_BANDLIM which limits the effectiveness of these sorts of attacks. The last major class of springboard attacks is related to *************** *** 574,584 **** .Xr find 1 , .Xr kerberos 1 , .Xr md5 1 , ! .Xr ssh 1 , ! .Xr sshd 1 , .Xr syslogd 1 , .Xr xdm 1 , .Xr sysctl 8 .Sh HISTORY The .Nm --- 594,608 ---- .Xr find 1 , .Xr kerberos 1 , .Xr md5 1 , ! .Xr netstat 1 , .Xr syslogd 1 , .Xr xdm 1 , .Xr sysctl 8 + + The follwing are part of security ports collection: + + .Xr ssh 1 , + .Xr sshd 1 .Sh HISTORY The .Nm >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 19 6:35:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0D7414F45; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 06:35:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05712; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:35:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from john.baldwin.cx ([198.82.184.240]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA10176; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:35:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199908191335.JAA10176@sable.cc.vt.edu> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:35:28 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) Subject: Re: Default FDP docs installation directory? Cc: doc-jp@jp.freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org, Nik Clayton Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 19-Aug-99 Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami wrote: > * > fdp is even uglier, and I can't recall anyone other than you using > * > that particular acronym. > * > * Alternatives? "docproj"? "doc-proj"? "doc-project"? Something better? > > I don't think we need a subdirectory. I agree. /usr/share/doc is where it has always been, and that's where everyone will be looking for them, so moving it to /usr/local would violate POLA in a big way. doc/ is definitely part of the base system. Moving it out to /usr/local will only give the impression that there is no authoritative documentation for FreeBSD, not what we want to be saying, IMHO. > * That will lead to /usr/share/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/ > * es_ES.ISO_8859-1/ > * ja/ > * papers/ > * psd/ > * ru_RU.KOI8-R > * smm/ > * usd/ > * zh_TW.Big/ > * > * and so on. We can do it, but I'm not convinced it's a good idea. > > Maybe move papers, psd etc. to the English subdirectory too? I think that would be a good move, too. You could probably stick the papers/ under articles/ and smm/, usd/, and psd/ would fit in nicely under books/. Then the translation teams could work on translating them if they so desired (and if its legal, of course). > * I stress that doesn't mean we won't do it, just that I don't think it's a > * good idea. However, if the consensus on this list is that it's a good > * idea then we can do that. I think the overwhelming consensus on this list is that it is not a good idea. And since it is a simple makefile tweak thanks to the new system, if later on we do decide to move it the change is trivial. I don't think this is a battle worth fighting at the moment. > * > * Of course, it would also be possible during "make install" time to > * designate one language as the default, which could lead to > * > * /usr/share/doc/articles@ -> en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/ > * books@ -> en_US.ISO-8859-1/books/ This could be good as well. Even a similar FAQ/ and handbook/ symlink might be a good idea. Although, I don't want to get too buried in spaghetti soup. > Satoshi --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 19 13:28: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAED6152CF for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:27:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA43768 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 21:13:41 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA38795 for doc@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:19:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:19:16 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: docproj.docbook.mk cruft, naming, splitting Message-ID: <19990819141916.A36423@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How do, As per my earlier message, consider this a request for comments. I'm not going to implement anything yet, but would like to implement something soon. . . I think it would be nice if the FDP Makefile's drew from, but did not depend on, the system make files in /usr/share/mk. It would be nice if doc/ was completely self contained, so that you could download it on to pretty much any FreeBSD system and have it build (as long as the appropriate apps are in place). Don't get me wrong -- I think we can still lever a lot of the work that's gone in to the bsd.*.mk files, and I think we should. But having doc/share/mk/fdp.own.mk fdp.docbook.mk fdp.install.mk fdp.subdir.mk and so on makes it simpler to transport the doc tree to other systems. Ultimately, all you should need to move is doc//* and doc//*. Of course, for some of these files it makes sense if they get their default values from the system files. For example, a hypothetical fdp.own.mk might start with .if exists(bsd.own.mk) .include .endif to pick up definitions for the system DOC* variables, but still allow us to override them (or provide defaults if bsd.own.mk isn't available for some reason). This also makes it possible to drop our doc tree on to a foreign OS (Solaris and Linux are the most popular requests I've been getting) and build it there (assuming they have a Berkeley Make available -- see my recent DaemonNews columns for instructions on how to get a bmake for other systems). I imagine it would make things easier for the *BSDs as well, should they wish to use our work. Another compelling reason to do this is that the existing docproj.docbook.mk is rapidly becoming too large, and is requires DOC_PREFIX to be set before you can .include it in other Makefiles -- this is a pain (see my recent (or shortly to happen)) commits to doc//Makefile to see where this is necessary. I can't think of a compelling reason not to put this on the list of things to do. Can anyone think otherwise? N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 19 13:28:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE33152EB for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:27:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA43769 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 21:13:41 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA09693 for doc@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 21:12:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 21:12:35 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Please test the www/ repository changes Message-ID: <19990819211235.A65069@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks, I have (or will shortly, depending on when this e-mail leaves my machine) committed changes to the www/ tree to support the new doc/ repository structure. I have not yet re-enabled web site rebuilding back on Freefall yet, because I'd like these changes to be tested hard first. I think I've caught every bug and dangling link, but I could be wrong. So, I'd be very grateful if you people could test out the www/ tree. To recap on Wolfram's instructions to do this; 1. Checkout the doc/ and www/ repositories next to each other. % cvs checkout www doc 2. Make the necessary symbolic links % cd www % make links 3. Build and install the web site % cd en % make -DNOPORTSCVS DESTDIR=/tmp/w all install set DESTDIR appropriately. You can omit "-DNOPORTSCVS" if you have a copy of the ports/ tree in CVS, and your $CVSROOT is set correctly. If you only want to test the generation of the English docs you can add "-DENGLISH_ONLY" to the command line. Alternatively, I should have put up a complete mirror (minus working CGI scripts) at http://freefall.freebsd.org/~nik/web-docbook/ shortly after you receive this message. At the time of writing, the only FAQ that hasn't been DocBook'd is the Russian one -- but we're almost there :-) The overall functionality of the DocBook'd documents should be identical, it's just the look and feel that's changed. There's one thing missing right now -- currently the top of the FAQ includes links to PS and PDF versions of the FAQ. These aren't going to work properly quite yet. On Saturday I'll start an automatic process on freefall that will populate ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/docs/ with PS, PDF, text, HTML, and RTF versions of the all the DocBook documentation (Handbook, FAQ, Primer, and the tutorials/articles). When I've done that the URLs at the top of the FAQ can change to point to the freshly generated documentation. For the sake of 24 hours or so worth of broken links I don't think it's worth the commit to remove text, and then add it again later. If any committer disagrees sufficiently strongly with me about this, they should feel free to remove the offending sentence from the FAQ. Oh -- two of the tutorials haven't been converted to DocBook yet. I'll do that tomorrow. It's not a big task, but I've got to call a halt somewhere and commit some of this stuff :-) And speaking of the tutorials, they should be marked up as articles, but they're marked up as books (this is legacy). Again, this is on my list of things to do, and will be tackled tomorrow. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 19 13:29:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D9F115421 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:27:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA43771 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 21:13:41 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA21098 for doc@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:12:24 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:12:24 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Default FDP docs installation directory? Message-ID: <19990819131224.A844@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990818121931.A4266@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990818121931.A4266@kilt.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 12:19:31PM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks, How's everyone doing? Sunny weather outside? Cool drink beside you? Good book by your side? Generally relaxed? Great. There are too many messages in this thread for me to reply to them individually, particularly when most of the time I'll just end up repeating myself, so I'll cut to the chase, and make a couple of general points along the way. First off, people seem to like "/usr/share/doc" as the default installation directory. So be it. It's not a problem, and I'll commit the change shortly after this message goes out. A couple of people also like the idea of putting the docs in a sub-directory of "fdp", or similar, but they get outvoted by the general clamour for "/usr/share/doc", so we won't do that. This is cool. Now, the slightly more major point. I am, to say the least, somewhat surprised at the amount of mail this issue threw up, particularly the tone of some of the mail. I've seen this happen on some of the other lists (-committers, -current, and cvs-* in particular) and I don't really want it to happen on the -doc list. I get the impression that some -doc subscribers have the wrong idea about what it is that I'm doing as the Doc. Proj. Manager, and what my role actually is. It's probably simplest to say what I'm not -- I'm not a Bruce Evans, or a Jordan Hubbard, or a David Greenman (or a Greg Lehey, or a Brian Somers for that matter). All of these people have a great deal of knowledge about different parts of FreeBSD (the release system, the architecture, Vinum, PPP, and so on), and when one of these people makes a statement about one of their areas of expertise, you listen, and then you do what they said. The FDP doesn't work like that. In many ways it's both a wider and a smaller arena than the previous examples. Couple that with the fact that I can't understand the languages that the translation projects use, and inevitably there is potential for mis-communication on both sides. One of the things that should be apparent (and, indeed, I thought it was apparent, which is why I haven't been stating it clearly in every message I send) is that attempting to hand down an edict along the lines of "As of now, every document will install under /x/y/z/" is impossible. The best that I can do is make suggestions, and then argue the case for those suggestions. If the suggestions are good, then we agree, if they're bad, then you all tell my I'm a fool, and if they're complicated then we spend three months discussing back and forth before actually doing anything. But in doing this, I'm no different from any other contributor to this list (well, every contributor that's also a committer, and I'm pleased to report that the number of FDP related committers is growing nicely at the moment). To try and illustrate this, lets look at three different examples from the relatively recent past: 1. The doc/ repo moves. I posted the original plan. We discussed it for ages. Various valuable points were made by lots of different people, the plan was modified, issues were raised, and solved. We did the work. By and large, things have gone well. I'm quite happy with the way things have turned out, although, as ever, it would have been great if the turnaround on getting the tree unfrozen could have gone a little faster (watch for an announcement about that later today). But these things generally never go completely to plan, and I'm impressed with, and grateful to, the various translation projects for their input, and their work so far after the repo move. 2. install(1) vs. cp(1), chmod(1), and chown(1) Some of you might have noticed that in docproj.docbook.mk the docs are no longer installed using install(1), but a combination of cp(1), chmod(1), and chown(1) are used. This is because every now and then I get e-mail from people who are not running as 'root', but are trying to build and install the docs. install(1) blows up when it can't chown(2) the installed files. For users like these, it's much simpler if the process is broken down in to its constituent parts, and one of those parts (chown(1)) is made non-fatal to the install if it fails. Of course, they could also set the DOC* make(1) variables on the command line, but with this change things work for them first time, with them needing to put in the minimum of effort. I've found that requiring people to put in the minimum of effort is conducive to getting them to actually contribute. I've had a couple of comments from people about this, both for and against. IMHO, the jury's still out on this one. I can see the arguments on both sides, but making the default case work simply for non-root users, is, I think, a pretty compelling argument. Other suggestions, including tweaking the flags passed to install(1) based on the uid of the person doing the install have been suggested, which might provide us with the best of both worlds. 3. /usr/local/share/doc/fdp/... Some people liked it. Some people preferred modified versions of it, and some people would rather things stayed as they are. It'll be changing back. As various people's messages have indicated, there are considerations beyond the ones in my original message which make /usr/share/doc/ the best choice. One question that has cropped up is why was it committed like that in the first place? There's no one reason why, but I did consider a number of factors when I decided to commit the Makefiles with that in them. In no particular order, these were: (a) the doc/ tree is in flux at the moment, and known to be in flux, and I've got the time to fix up the repercussions (or what I thought would be the repercussions) of keeping this change, (b) I thought it was a good idea anyway, so why not let other people try it out, (c) it keeps the new documentation formats away from the old documentation formats, so anyone playing around with the new doc/ isn't going to accidentally clobber their existing /usr/share/doc/, and (d) it made testing the installation routines much easier. One thing that should be made clear -- just because it was committed as such does not mean (and should never mean) that I'm not flexible in changing it at the first opportunity as necessary. OK? For the future, I'm going to try and make sure that my suggestions are marked as such (and not "commandments handed down from the Doc. Proj. Manager"), so that they're less likely to cause what seems to have been some offense. Cheers, N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 19 13:32:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9411B152A4; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:32:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA43775; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 21:13:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA21799; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:18:06 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:18:06 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Chris Costello Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Nik Clayton , Kris Kennaway , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FAQ only for FreeBSD 2.x? Message-ID: <19990819131806.B844@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990818200721.A49279@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <81306.935014109@localhost> <19990818204557.A99464@holly.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990818204557.A99464@holly.dyndns.org>; from Chris Costello on Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 08:45:58PM -0500 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 08:45:58PM -0500, Chris Costello wrote: > I volunteered back when I joined the faq team (freebsd-faq) > and as soon as all the doc repo changes are completely done and > doc/ is unfrozen I'll be going through and working on the FAQ, as > well as the handbook. Is there a list of known issues with it being maintained by anyone at the moment? As I go through it doing the markup changes I'm going to be touching pretty much every line, and can make notes on the problems that I see with the text as I go along. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 19 14:37:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB4815099; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:37:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA55286; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 22:35:18 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 22:35:18 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please test the www/ repository changes Message-ID: <19990819223518.A50277@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990819211235.A65069@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990819211235.A65069@kilt.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Thu, Aug 19, 1999 at 09:12:35PM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Aug 19, 1999 at 09:12:35PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > 3. Build and install the web site > > % cd en > % make -DNOPORTSCVS DESTDIR=/tmp/w all install You'll probably want to add DOCGRP=xxx WEBGRP=xxx CGIGRP=xxx to that command line as well (where "xxx" is a group that you're in). Anyway, the build on freefall is now finished, so take a look at > http://freefall.freebsd.org/~nik/web-docbook/ It built first time, which I'm quite pleased about. Yes, obviously I test these things first, but sometimes the gremlins pop in. If comments on the above URL are favourable then I'll turn the main web build process back on. Cheers, N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 19 16:20:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp11.bellglobal.com (smtp11.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF2714EAB; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:20:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vanderh@ecf.toronto.edu) Received: from ppp18344.on.bellglobal.com (ppp18380.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.130.60]) by smtp11.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA09812; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 19:24:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by ppp18344.on.bellglobal.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id TAA22601; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 19:22:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tim) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 19:22:35 -0400 From: Tim Vanderhoek To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please test the www/ repository changes Message-ID: <19990819192235.B22445@ppp18344.on.bellglobal.com> Reply-To: hoek@freebsd.org References: <19990819211235.A65069@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <19990819211235.A65069@kilt.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Thu, Aug 19, 1999 at 09:12:35PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Aug 19, 1999 at 09:12:35PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > > 1. Checkout the doc/ and www/ repositories next to each other. > > % cvs checkout www doc cvsup (probably from cvsup-master) would be faster and probably puts less load on freefall, too. -- This is my .signature which gets appended to the end of my messages. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 19 18:58: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from kronos.alcnet.com (kronos.alcnet.com [63.69.28.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D03152E9 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:57:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kbyanc@posi.net) X-Provider: ALC Communications, Inc. http://www.alcnet.com/ Received: from localhost (kbyanc@localhost) by kronos.alcnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/antispam) with ESMTP id VAA57019 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 21:57:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 21:57:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Kelly Yancey X-Sender: kbyanc@kronos.alcnet.com To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: spelling mistakes Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've been working on a number of ports recently and have noticed a couple of small spelling errors: 1. in the handbook (in the "Making a port yourself" section) it reads: As mentioned above, the default target to call when a dependency is required is DEPENDS_TARGET. It defaults to install. This is a user variable; is is never defined in a port's Makefile. If your port needs a special way to handle a dependency, use the :target part of the *_DEPENDS variables instead of redefining DEPENDS_TARGET. obviously, it should read "it is never defined..." ^^ 2. the other is in a port itself I was using for reference: /usr/ports/databases/mysql322-server; the Makefile reads: @${ECHO} "Sorry, native FreeBSD threads (libc_r) in 2.2-branch" @${ECHO} "are still to buggy to use with mysql." @${ECHO} "Using mit-pthreads." presumable it should read "still too buggy..." ^^^ Don't mean to be a pest, just thought someone might want to help us FreeBSD'ers look a little more intelligent. ;) ~kbyanc@posi.net~ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve - http://www.freebsd.org/ Join Team FreeBSD - http://www.posi.net/freebsd/Team-FreeBSD/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Aug 19 20: 2: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 082FE152D7; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:01:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from hoek@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id UAA02740; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:01:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hoek@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:01:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199908200301.UAA02740@freefall.freebsd.org> To: hoek@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, hoek@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13255: Some actualization of ports.7 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Some actualization of ports.7 Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->hoek Responsible-Changed-By: hoek Responsible-Changed-When: Thu Aug 19 19:59:35 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: I strongly object to the second of the two hunks in this patch, and assigning this PR to myself is the best way to make sure that my wishes are observerd. Also note that the dependslist target in question was removed in r.1.300 of bsd.port.mk. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 20 1:12:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca44-42.ix.netcom.com [209.111.212.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45EBB15214; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 01:11:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@stampede.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.6.9) id BAA87776; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 01:11:05 -0700 (PDT) To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docproj.docbook.mk cruft, naming, splitting References: <19990819141916.A36423@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> From: asami@freebsd.org (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) Date: 20 Aug 1999 01:11:05 -0700 In-Reply-To: Nik Clayton's message of "Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:19:16 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 24 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * From: Nik Clayton * I think it would be nice if the FDP Makefile's drew from, but did not * depend on, the system make files in /usr/share/mk. It would be nice if * doc/ was completely self contained, so that you could download it on to * pretty much any FreeBSD system and have it build (as long as the * appropriate apps are in place). * * Don't get me wrong -- I think we can still lever a lot of the work that's * gone in to the bsd.*.mk files, and I think we should. But having * * doc/share/mk/fdp.own.mk * fdp.docbook.mk * fdp.install.mk * fdp.subdir.mk * * and so on makes it simpler to transport the doc tree to other systems. * Ultimately, all you should need to move is doc//* and doc//*. Good idea. All the *BSD's have moved bsd.port.mk out of /usr/share/mk and into /usr/ports -- there is no reason why the doc tree can't do the same, for pretty much the same reasons. Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 20 9:11:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from saturn.terahertz.net (saturn.terahertz.net [209.83.5.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF26615397 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:11:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mustang@TeraHertz.Net) Received: from localhost (mustang@localhost) by saturn.terahertz.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA78070 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:09:19 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:09:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Malayter To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: subscribe Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 20 11:50: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E3E515258 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:50:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA15955; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (sunbay-10BASE-T.cris.net [212.110.130.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A6915355 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:46:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.9.3/1.13) with UUCP id VAA26204 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:46:49 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id PAA00931; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:23:45 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199908201123.PAA00931@scorpion.crimea.ua> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:23:45 +0400 (MSD) From: "Alexey M. Zelkin" Reply-To: "Alexey M. Zelkin" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/13271: [PATCH] sysinstall.8 style and content modification Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13271 >Category: docs >Synopsis: sysinstall.8 still have some style problems and out-of-date >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Aug 20 11:50:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Alexey Zelkin >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: Home >Environment: -CURRENT sources, cvsuped this night >Description: . First off, Mike -- you commit (rev.1.20) wasn't complete because one string of removed paragraph left there. (cvs diff -c -r 1.19 -r 1.20 sysinstall.8 for more details) . Added dists - compat22, compat3x; removed - sebones. . I everytime thought that ftp url will look like ftp://host/, not ftp:/host/ . Stylify (.Fx, .Dq) . Make better visible (removed somethere spaces, added .Pp) . freebsd.org -> FreeBSD.org >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: sysinstall.8 =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/CVSROOT/src/release/sysinstall/sysinstall.8,v retrieving revision 1.21 diff -c -r1.21 sysinstall.8 *** sysinstall.8 1999/08/18 05:54:54 1.21 --- sysinstall.8 1999/01/20 10:14:32 *************** *** 1,5 **** .\" Copyright (c) 1997 ! .\" Jordan Hubbard . All rights reserved. .\" .\" Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without .\" modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions --- 1,5 ---- .\" Copyright (c) 1997 ! .\" Jordan Hubbard . All rights reserved. .\" .\" Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without .\" modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions *************** *** 37,47 **** .Op Ar ... .Sh DESCRIPTION .Nm ! is a utility for installing and configuring FreeBSD systems. ! It is the first utility invoked by the FreeBSD installation boot floppy and is also copied into .Pa /stand/sysinstall ! on newly installed FreeBSD systems for use in later configuring the system. .Pp The .Nm --- 37,53 ---- .Op Ar ... .Sh DESCRIPTION .Nm ! is a utility for installing and configuring ! .Fx ! systems. ! It is the first utility invoked by the ! .Fx ! installation boot floppy and is also copied into .Pa /stand/sysinstall ! on newly installed ! .Fx ! systems for use in later configuring the system. .Pp The .Nm *************** *** 63,72 **** of the .Xr libdisk 3 library) and install distributions or packages onto new and ! existing FreeBSD systems. It also contains some extra intelligence for running as a replacement for .Xr init 8 ! when it's invoked by the FreeBSD installation boot procedure. It assumes very little in the way of additional utility support and performs most file system operations by calling the relevant syscalls (such as --- 69,82 ---- of the .Xr libdisk 3 library) and install distributions or packages onto new and ! existing ! .Fx ! systems. It also contains some extra intelligence for running as a replacement for .Xr init 8 ! when it's invoked by the ! .Fx ! installation boot procedure. It assumes very little in the way of additional utility support and performs most file system operations by calling the relevant syscalls (such as *************** *** 79,89 **** library to do user interaction with simple ANSI line graphics, color support for which is enabled by either running on a syscons VTY or some other color-capable terminal emulator (newer versions of xterm will support ! color when using the ``xterm-color'' termcap entry). .Pp This product is currently at the end of its life cycle and will eventually be replaced. - utility. .Sh RUNNING SCRIPTS .Nm may be either driven interactively through its various internal menus --- 89,100 ---- library to do user interaction with simple ANSI line graphics, color support for which is enabled by either running on a syscons VTY or some other color-capable terminal emulator (newer versions of xterm will support ! color when using the ! .Dq xterm-color ! termcap entry). .Pp This product is currently at the end of its life cycle and will eventually be replaced. .Sh RUNNING SCRIPTS .Nm may be either driven interactively through its various internal menus *************** *** 124,130 **** For example: .nf ! /stand/sysinstall _ftpPath=ftp:/ziggy/pub/ mediaSetFTP configPackages .fi Would initialize --- 135,141 ---- For example: .nf ! /stand/sysinstall _ftpPath=ftp://ziggy/pub/ mediaSetFTP configPackages .fi Would initialize *************** *** 178,184 **** .Bl -tag -width indent .It router can be set to the name of the desired routing daemon, ! e.g. ``routed'' or ``gated'', otherwise it is prompted for. .El .It configNFSServer Configure host as an NFS server. --- 189,199 ---- .Bl -tag -width indent .It router can be set to the name of the desired routing daemon, ! e.g. ! .Dq routed ! or ! .Dq gated , ! otherwise it is prompted for. .El .It configNFSServer Configure host as an NFS server. *************** *** 226,243 **** .It partition Set to disk partitioning type or size, its value being .Ar free ! in order to use only remaining free space for FreeBSD, .Ar all ! to use the entire disk for FreeBSD but maintain a proper partition table, .Ar existing ! to use an existing FreeBSD partition (first found), .Ar exclusive ! to use the disk in ``dangerously dedicated'' mode or, finally, .Ar somenumber to allocate .Ar somenumber ! blocks of available free space to a new FreeBSD partition. Default: Interactive mode. .It bootManager is set to one of --- 241,267 ---- .It partition Set to disk partitioning type or size, its value being .Ar free ! in order to use only remaining free space for ! .Fx , .Ar all ! to use the entire disk for ! .Fx ! but maintain a proper partition table, .Ar existing ! to use an existing ! .Fx ! partition (first found), .Ar exclusive ! to use the disk in ! .Dq dangerously dedicated ! mode or, finally, .Ar somenumber to allocate .Ar somenumber ! blocks of available free space to a new ! .Fx ! partition. Default: Interactive mode. .It bootManager is set to one of *************** *** 262,268 **** \fBVariables:\fR None .It diskLabelEditor Invokes the disk label editor. This is a bit trickier from a script ! since you need to essentially label everything inside each FreeBSD (type 0xA5) partition created by the .Ar diskPartitionEditor function, and that requires knowing a few rules about how things are --- 286,293 ---- \fBVariables:\fR None .It diskLabelEditor Invokes the disk label editor. This is a bit trickier from a script ! since you need to essentially label everything inside each ! .Fx (type 0xA5) partition created by the .Ar diskPartitionEditor function, and that requires knowing a few rules about how things are *************** *** 273,287 **** the script. .Pp For example, let's say you have a SCSI disk on which you've created a new ! FreeBSD partition in slice 2 (your DOS partition residing in slice 1). The slice name would be .Ar da0s2 ! for the whole FreeBSD partition ( ! .Ar da0s1 being your DOS primary partition). Now let's further assume that you have 500MB in this partition and you want to sub-partition that space into root, swap, ! var and usr file systems for FreeBSD. Your invocation of the .Ar diskLabelEditor function might involve setting the following variables: .Bl -tag -width findx --- 298,317 ---- the script. .Pp For example, let's say you have a SCSI disk on which you've created a new ! .Fx ! partition in slice 2 (your DOS partition residing in slice 1). The slice name would be .Ar da0s2 ! for the whole ! .Fx ! partition ! .Ar ( da0s1 being your DOS primary partition). Now let's further assume that you have 500MB in this partition and you want to sub-partition that space into root, swap, ! var and usr file systems for ! .Fx . ! Your invocation of the .Ar diskLabelEditor function might involve setting the following variables: .Bl -tag -width findx *************** *** 336,346 **** .It distSetCustom Allows the selection of a custom distribution set (e.g. not just on of the existing "canned" sets) with no user interaction. \fBVariables:\fR .Bl -tag -width indent .It dists List of distributions to load. Possible distribution values are: ! .Bl -tag -width indent .It Li bin The base binary distribution. .It Li doc --- 366,377 ---- .It distSetCustom Allows the selection of a custom distribution set (e.g. not just on of the existing "canned" sets) with no user interaction. + \fBVariables:\fR .Bl -tag -width indent .It dists List of distributions to load. Possible distribution values are: ! .Bl -tag -width indentxx .It Li bin The base binary distribution. .It Li doc *************** *** 360,378 **** .It Li des DES encryption binaries and libraries. .It Li compat1x ! Compatibility with FreeBSD 1.x .It Li compat20 ! Compatibility with FreeBSD 2.0 .It Li compat21 ! Compatibility with FreeBSD 2.1 .It Li ports The ports collection. .It Li krb Kerberos binaries. .It Li ssecure /usr/src/secure - .It Li sebones - /usr/src/eBones .It Li sbase /usr/src/[top level files] .It Li scontrib --- 391,421 ---- .It Li des DES encryption binaries and libraries. .It Li compat1x ! Compatibility with ! .Fx 1.x .It Li compat20 ! Compatibility with ! .Fx 2.0 .It Li compat21 ! Compatibility with ! .Fx 2.1 ! .It Li compat22 ! .Fx 2.2 ! and ! .Fx 3.0 ! a.out binary compatibility ! .It Li compat3x ! Compatibility with ! .Fx 3.x ! (available for ! .Fx 4.0 ! systems only) .It Li ports The ports collection. .It Li krb Kerberos binaries. .It Li ssecure /usr/src/secure .It Li sbase /usr/src/[top level files] .It Li scontrib *************** *** 564,569 **** --- 607,613 ---- Commit any and all pending changes to disk. This function is essentially shorthand for a number of more granular "commit" functions. + .Pp \fBVariables:\fR None .It installExpress Start an "express" installation, asking few questions of *************** *** 613,619 **** The fully pathname of the file to load. .El .It mediaSetCDROM ! Select a FreeBSD CDROM as the installation media. .Pp \fBVariables:\fR None .It mediaSetFloppy --- 657,665 ---- The fully pathname of the file to load. .El .It mediaSetCDROM ! Select a ! .Fx ! CDROM as the installation media. .Pp \fBVariables:\fR None .It mediaSetFloppy *************** *** 641,648 **** .It defaultrouter The default router for this host (non-optional). .It netDev ! Which host interface to use ( ! .Ar ed0 or .Ar ep0 , for example. Non-optional). --- 687,694 ---- .It defaultrouter The default router for this host (non-optional). .It netDev ! Which host interface to use ! .Ar ( ed0 or .Ar ep0 , for example. Non-optional). *************** *** 654,662 **** .It netmask The netmask for the selected host interface (non-optional). .It _ftpPath ! The fully qualified URL of the FTP site containing the FreeBSD distribution you're interested in, e.g. ! .Ar ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ . .El .It mediaSetFTPActive Alias for --- 700,709 ---- .It netmask The netmask for the selected host interface (non-optional). .It _ftpPath ! The fully qualified URL of the FTP site containing the ! .Fx distribution you're interested in, e.g. ! .Ar ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ . .El .It mediaSetFTPActive Alias for *************** *** 679,685 **** \fBVariables:\fR .Bl -tag -width indent .It ufs ! full /path to directory containing the FreeBSD distribution you're interested in. .El .It mediaSetNFS --- 726,734 ---- \fBVariables:\fR .Bl -tag -width indent .It ufs ! full /path to directory containing the ! .Fx ! distribution you're interested in. .El .It mediaSetNFS *************** *** 693,700 **** .It defaultrouter The default router for this host (non-optional). .It netDev ! Which host interface to use ( ! .Ar ed0 or .Ar ep0 , for example. Non-optional). --- 742,749 ---- .It defaultrouter The default router for this host (non-optional). .It netDev ! Which host interface to use ! .Ar ( ed0 or .Ar ep0 , for example. Non-optional). *************** *** 707,713 **** The netmask for the selected host interface (non-optional). .It nfs full hostname:/path specification for directory containing ! the FreeBSD distribution you're interested in. .El .It mediaSetFTPUserPass .Pp --- 756,764 ---- The netmask for the selected host interface (non-optional). .It nfs full hostname:/path specification for directory containing ! the ! .Fx ! distribution you're interested in. .El .It mediaSetFTPUserPass .Pp >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 20 14: 9: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.pp.psg.sk (mail.pp.psg.sk [195.80.162.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92C4151C1 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:07:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from xvudpapc@savba.savba.sk) Received: from savba.savba.sk (pcba42.ba.psg.sk [195.80.171.108]) by mail.pp.psg.sk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA24554 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 23:06:45 +0200 Message-ID: <37BEA707.19EBC9AA@savba.savba.sk> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 15:17:59 +0200 From: xvudpapc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Juraj Sipos Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------7F4EA691789B5F21E8EBA37A" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------7F4EA691789B5F21E8EBA37A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm including a package (not a binary one) to solve the issue of International keyboard layout under X Windows. 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nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA44222; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 00:17:51 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 00:17:51 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please test the www/ repository changes Message-ID: <19990821001751.A44042@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990819211235.A65069@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <19990819223518.A50277@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990819223518.A50277@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Thu, Aug 19, 1999 at 10:35:18PM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Aug 19, 1999 at 10:35:18PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > Anyway, the build on freefall is now finished, so take a look at > > > http://freefall.freebsd.org/~nik/web-docbook/ There's been no comment about this one way or another -- I think my changes are working OK, but it'd be nice to hear at least one "yes, works here too" from someone before I turn this on for the live site. . . N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 20 16:51:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D3214E81; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:51:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 74D961C0E; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 18:49:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6541B3826; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 18:49:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 18:49:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please test the www/ repository changes In-Reply-To: <19990821001751.A44042@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: > There's been no comment about this one way or another -- I think my > changes are working OK, but it'd be nice to hear at least one "yes, works > here too" from someone before I turn this on for the live site. . . http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/web-docbook/ports/irc.html <-- doesn't exist how recently did you build this? -- - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 20 18:41: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2FBF153DC; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 18:40:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (adsl-216-62-154-215.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.05.24.18.28.p7) with ESMTP id <0FGS00FYXKNRXN@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net>; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 20:40:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA60770; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 20:43:10 -0500 (CDT envelope-from chris) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 20:43:09 -0500 From: Chris Costello Subject: Re: FAQ only for FreeBSD 2.x? In-reply-to: <19990819131806.B844@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> To: Nik Clayton Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , Kris Kennaway , doc@freebsd.org Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19990820204309.B1366@holly.dyndns.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.4i References: <19990818200721.A49279@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <81306.935014109@localhost> <19990818204557.A99464@holly.dyndns.org> <19990819131806.B844@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Aug 19, 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: > Is there a list of known issues with it being maintained by anyone at > the moment? As I go through it doing the markup changes I'm going to Not that I know of, no. -- |Chris Costello |No program done by an undergrad will work after she graduates. `-------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 20 18:52:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from fellspt.charm.net (fellspt.charm.net [199.0.70.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE08153DC; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 18:52:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dutch@charm.net) Received: from charm.net (coretel-116-171.charm.net [209.143.116.171]) by fellspt.charm.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA29445; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:52:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37BE0630.A6E9141B@charm.net> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:51:44 -0400 From: Dutch Collins X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Please test the www/ repository changes References: <19990819211235.A65069@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <19990819223518.A50277@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990821001751.A44042@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik Clayton wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 19, 1999 at 10:35:18PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > > Anyway, the build on freefall is now finished, so take a look at > > > > > http://freefall.freebsd.org/~nik/web-docbook/ > > There's been no comment about this one way or another -- I think my > changes are working OK, but it'd be nice to hear at least one "yes, works > here too" from someone before I turn this on for the live site. . . > > N > -- > [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, > non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs > the links. > -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> > Pages loaded. Looks fine in netscape 4.61 on the win98 machine (took the BSD machine apart). Don't have a link mapper around to check for dead stuff. Anything else? -d --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 20 21: 2:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDB6615373 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:02:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id VAA47572; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from invisinet.dorm.org (171-189.dynamic.visi.com [209.98.171.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB93014FA3 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 20:57:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from invis@visi.com) Received: (from invis@localhost) by invisinet.dorm.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA34176; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 22:56:34 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from invis) Message-Id: <199908210356.WAA34176@invisinet.dorm.org> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 22:56:34 -0500 (CDT) From: invis@visi.com Reply-To: invis@visi.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/13279: Typo in hier(7) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13279 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Typo in hier(7) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Aug 20 21:00:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: invis >Release: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: Running FreeBSD 3.2-Stable, last cvsupped on 08/20/1999 >Description: In the hier(7) man page, there is an entry with "preserve", and the next line made of question marks. This seems out of place considering that there is already an entry explaining the /var/preserve directory.i Furthermore, the preserve directory is not listed in alphabetical order. >How-To-Repeat: Load up the hier(7) man page and search for "preserve". >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 20 21:32:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E80153A8 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:32:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id VAA48857; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from LCS.MIT.EDU (mintaka.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 96573153D7 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:21:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wollman@xyz.lcs.mit.edu) Received: from xyz.lcs.mit.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa06124; 21 Aug 99 0:19 EDT Received: (from wollman@localhost) by xyz.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.8.6) id AAA18830; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 00:19:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199908210419.AAA18830@xyz.lcs.mit.edu> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 00:19:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Reply-To: wollman@freebsd.lcs.mit.edu To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/13280: Spelling errors in sysmouse(4), mouse(4) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13280 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Spelling errors in sysmouse(4), mouse(4) >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Aug 20 21:30:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Garrett A. Wollman >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science >Environment: >Description: The word ``complement'' in ``two's complement'' does not have an `i' in it. >How-To-Repeat: man mouse man sysmouse >Fix: :%s/compliment/complement/g >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 20 21:41:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2219153D7; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:41:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from chris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id VAA49426; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:40:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:40:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199908210440.VAA49426@freefall.freebsd.org> To: wollman@freebsd.lcs.mit.edu, chris@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13280: Spelling errors in sysmouse(4), mouse(4) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Spelling errors in sysmouse(4), mouse(4) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: chris State-Changed-When: Fri Aug 20 21:39:59 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Changes committed to -CURRENT and -STABLE. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Aug 20 21:54: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB5814A09; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:54:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from chris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id VAA50061; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:53:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 21:53:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199908210453.VAA50061@freefall.freebsd.org> To: invis@visi.com, chris@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13279: Typo in hier(7) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Typo in hier(7) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: chris State-Changed-When: Fri Aug 20 21:52:40 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed in -CURRENT (rev 1.19) and -STABLE (rev 1.16.2.2) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 21 0:10:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA613153AA for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 00:10:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id AAA55098; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 00:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE6A153A4 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 00:00:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id KAA19033 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 10:00:57 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id JAA08266; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 09:52:59 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199908210552.JAA08266@scorpion.crimea.ua> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 09:52:59 +0400 (MSD) From: "Alexey M. Zelkin" Reply-To: "Alexey M. Zelkin" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/13284: [PATCH] Allow .Rv for section 7 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13284 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Allow .Rv macro for man section 7 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Aug 21 00:10:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Alexey Zelkin >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: Home >Environment: -CURRENT, last cvsuped few days ago >Description: By default .Rv (Return Value) macro is allowed for 2 and 3 sections only. It's right. But mdoc.samples.7 is also using that function to show result of the .Rv macro (see mdoc.samples(7)). We have to possibilities to fix error message when viewing mdoc.samples(7): 1. Just hardcode its message, it's ugly. 2. Enable .Rv for 7 section, but don't include this change information to docs and its usage (enable hiddenly). >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: tmac.doc =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/CVSROOT/src/contrib/groff/tmac/tmac.doc,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -r1.2 tmac.doc 3420c3420,3422 < . if (\\n(cH<2):(\\n(cH>3) .tm Usage: .Rv -std sections 2 and 3 only --- > .\" This macro also allowed for 7 section because mdoc.samples.7 will show > .\" actual information (not hardcoded) > . if (\\n(cH=2):(\\n(cH=3):(\\n(cH=7)) .tm Usage: .Rv -std sections 2 and 3 only >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 21 0:34: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7792D14C9C; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 00:34:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cpiazza@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from cpiazza@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id AAA56065; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 00:34:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cpiazza@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 00:34:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199908210734.AAA56065@freefall.freebsd.org> To: cpiazza@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: conf/13283: A macro used in 'asc.4' should be changed Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: A macro used in 'asc.4' should be changed Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-bugs->freebsd-doc Responsible-Changed-By: cpiazza Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Aug 21 00:32:34 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: Misfiled PR To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 21 1:38:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A6814D11; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 01:38:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA52654; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 01:24:32 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 01:24:30 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Bill Fumerola Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please test the www/ repository changes Message-ID: <19990821012430.A52145@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990821001751.A44042@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Bill Fumerola on Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 06:49:59PM -0400 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 06:49:59PM -0400, Bill Fumerola wrote: > On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: > > > There's been no comment about this one way or another -- I think my > > changes are working OK, but it'd be nice to hear at least one "yes, works > > here too" from someone before I turn this on for the live site. . . > > http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/web-docbook/ports/irc.html <-- doesn't exist > how recently did you build this? Aug 19 at ~ 14.30, freefall time (PDT). Looking at it, I'm not suprised there's no irc.html, as http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/web-docbook/ports/ doesn't list an irc category. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 21 3:20: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.yk.rim.or.jp (mail.yk.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A2B814DA3; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 03:20:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp) Received: from localhost (ppp854.yk.rim.or.jp [202.247.185.105]) by mail.yk.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.6W-RIMNET-98-06-09) with ESMTP id TAA03831; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 19:19:32 +0900 (JST) To: nik@freebsd.org Cc: doc@freebsd.org From: horikawa@jp.FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docproj.docbook.mk cruft, naming, splitting In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:19:16 +0100" <19990819141916.A36423@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990819141916.A36423@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on Emacs 19.34 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990821191858M.k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 19:18:58 +0900 X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 32 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, From: Nik Clayton Subject: docproj.docbook.mk cruft, naming, splitting Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:19:16 +0100 > As per my earlier message, consider this a request for comments. I'm not > going to implement anything yet, but would like to implement something > soon. . . > > I think it would be nice if the FDP Makefile's drew from, but did not > depend on, the system make files in /usr/share/mk. It would be nice if > doc/ was completely self contained, so that you could download it on to > pretty much any FreeBSD system and have it build (as long as the > appropriate apps are in place). > > Don't get me wrong -- I think we can still lever a lot of the work that's > gone in to the bsd.*.mk files, and I think we should. But having > > doc/share/mk/fdp.own.mk > fdp.docbook.mk > fdp.install.mk > fdp.subdir.mk > > and so on makes it simpler to transport the doc tree to other systems. > Ultimately, all you should need to move is doc//* and doc//*. Please take care with doc/ja_JP.eucJP/man/man[1-9]/Makefile. They include /usr/share/mk/bsd.prog.mk, and use MAN[1-9] and MLINKS. Thanks, -- Kazuo Horikawa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 21 4:48:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sand.global.net.uk (sand.global.net.uk [195.147.248.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B9A714FA3 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 04:48:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marko@globalnet.co.uk) Received: from p4ds12a06.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.220.78] helo=marder-1.) by sand.global.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11I9df-0007No-00; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 12:48:47 +0100 Received: (from marko@localhost) by marder-1. (8.9.2/8.8.8) id MAA00386; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 12:41:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from marko) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 12:41:45 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: "N. Vitale" Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Warning when making FAQ Message-ID: <19990821124145.C267@marder-1> References: <19990817214604.C269@marder-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: ; from N. Vitale on Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 07:16:22PM +0200 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 07:16:22PM +0200, N. Vitale wrote: > On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Mark Ovens wrote: > > > I've just been making some mods to the FAQ (the SGML source) and > > when I make(1) it I get the following warning: > > > > marder-1# make && make install > > sgmlfmt -f html -links /usr/src/doc/FAQ/FAQ.sgml > > sgmlfmt -f latin1 -links /usr/src/doc/FAQ/FAQ.sgml > > sgmlfmt -f ascii -links /usr/src/doc/FAQ/FAQ.sgml > > FAQ.trf:7890: warning: can't find special character `:i' > > FAQ.trf:7890: warning: can't find special character `:i' > > > > [omissis] > > Edit /usr/share/tmac/tmac.tty and uncomment the (last) line: > > .\"do mso tmac.tty-char > > (delete the characters `\"' in the previous string). > Now, it should work. > Thanks. > Ciao. > > --- > N. Vitale > > -- STATE-OF-THE-ART: Any computer you can't afford. OBSOLETE: Any computer you own. ________________________________________________________________ FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org My Webpage http://http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/ mailto:mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 21 5:45: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A729114F12 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 05:44:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA46384; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 13:41:47 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 13:41:47 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Mark Ovens Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Warning when making FAQ Message-ID: <19990821134147.A44059@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990817214604.C269@marder-1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990817214604.C269@marder-1>; from Mark Ovens on Tue, Aug 17, 1999 at 09:46:05PM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Aug 17, 1999 at 09:46:05PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > I've just been making some mods to the FAQ (the SGML source) and > when I make(1) it I get the following warning: > > marder-1# make && make install > sgmlfmt -f html -links /usr/src/doc/FAQ/FAQ.sgml > sgmlfmt -f latin1 -links /usr/src/doc/FAQ/FAQ.sgml > sgmlfmt -f ascii -links /usr/src/doc/FAQ/FAQ.sgml > FAQ.trf:7890: warning: can't find special character `:i' > FAQ.trf:7890: warning: can't find special character `:i' > > but there is no file FAQ.trf in /usr/src/doc/FAQ, is it a temporary > file and is the warning anything to worry about? It's harmless, you can ignore it. However, as should be obvious to followers of this list for this past week, doc/FAQ is now deprecated, and will be going away shortly (in about four hours or so with a bit of luck). doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/ is where you want to be looking for the latest and greatest. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 21 6:30: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E356814F5E for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 06:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id GAA73567; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 06:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC9D14DB6 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 06:28:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id QAA25595 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 16:27:12 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id QAA10489; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 16:19:51 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199908211219.QAA10489@scorpion.crimea.ua> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 16:19:51 +0400 (MSD) From: "Alexey M. Zelkin" Reply-To: "Alexey M. Zelkin" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/13289: [PATCH] sc is documented, but manpage not present Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13289 >Category: docs >Synopsis: sc is documented, but manpage not present >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Aug 21 06:30:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Alexey Zelkin >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: Home >Environment: -current, last cvsuped few hours ago >Description: sc.4 (AKA syscons.4) is documented (see syscons(4)), but manpage sc(4) not present. This patch is fixing that. I think it's required because we have documenation about almost all drivers listed in LINT, but sc manpage still not present. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/CVSROOT/src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.112 diff -c -r1.112 Makefile *** Makefile 1999/07/27 06:52:46 1.112 --- Makefile 1999/01/21 11:12:50 *************** *** 80,86 **** MLINKS+= splash.4 ../splash.4 \ splash.4 screensaver.4 splash.4 ../screensaver.4 MLINKS+= sr.4 ../sr.4 ! MLINKS+= syscons.4 ../syscons.4 MLINKS+= sysmouse.4 ../sysmouse.4 MLINKS+= ti.4 ../ti.4 MLINKS+= tl.4 ../tl.4 --- 80,87 ---- MLINKS+= splash.4 ../splash.4 \ splash.4 screensaver.4 splash.4 ../screensaver.4 MLINKS+= sr.4 ../sr.4 ! MLINKS+= syscons.4 ../syscons.4 \ ! syscons.4 sc.4 syscons.4 ../sc.4 MLINKS+= sysmouse.4 ../sysmouse.4 MLINKS+= ti.4 ../ti.4 MLINKS+= tl.4 ../tl.4 >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 21 7:53: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C57014D9E for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 07:52:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA25580; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 07:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16F3315008 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 07:41:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id RAA26359 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:40:20 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id RAA11117; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:32:59 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199908211332.RAA11117@scorpion.crimea.ua> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:32:59 +0400 (MSD) From: "Alexey M. Zelkin" Reply-To: "Alexey M. Zelkin" To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/13290: [PATCH] ktrace.2 does not described ENOSYS error. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13290 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] ktrace.2 does not described ENOSYS error. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Aug 21 07:50:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Alexey Zelkin >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: Home >Environment: -current, last cvsuped few hours ago >Description: Synopsis and patch enough descriptive. SEE ALSO ktrace() in /sys/kern/kern_ktrace.c >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Index: ktrace.2 =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/local/CVSROOT/src/lib/libc/sys/ktrace.2,v retrieving revision 1.6 diff -c -r1.6 ktrace.2 *** ktrace.2 1997/02/22 15:03:57 1.6 --- ktrace.2 1999/01/21 12:28:43 *************** *** 152,157 **** --- 152,161 ---- Too many symbolic links were encountered in translating the pathname. .It Bq Er EIO An I/O error occurred while reading from or writing to the file system. + .It Bq Er ENOSYS + The requested feature is not supported. Kernel compiled without + .Nm + support. .El .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr kdump 1 , >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 21 8:15:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6165014D2C for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 08:15:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-30.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.30]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14160 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:15:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id LAA85389 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:16:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:16:18 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/ports-troubleshooting.html Message-ID: <19990821111618.A85319@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I believe this page leaves out the most important thing to do. 0) Make sure your ports collection makefiles are up-to-date (i.e. /usr/ports/Mk/*) BTW, that is what I'm looking for now. It's not here as I would have thought, so I'll keep looking. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 21 8:18:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 247A914C09 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 08:18:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-30.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.30]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14493 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:17:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id LAA85457 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:18:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:18:39 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/ports-troubleshooting.html Message-ID: <19990821111839.A85392@ipass.net> References: <19990821111618.A85319@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <19990821111618.A85319@ipass.net>; from Randall Hopper on Sat, Aug 21, 1999 at 11:16:18AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org |3.Forget it. This is the easiest for most --- very few of the programs in |ports can be classified as essential! I'd suggest getting rid of this. Let's not encourage users not to (at least) let someone know a port is broken. Makes it sound like they'd be ignored if they reported it. I don't think that's what we want to convey. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 21 9: 8:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from fellspt.charm.net (fellspt.charm.net [199.0.70.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A3814F10; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 09:08:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dutch@charm.net) Received: from charm.net (coretel-115-192.charm.net [209.143.115.192]) by fellspt.charm.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA18838; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 12:07:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37BECEA7.45D2D302@charm.net> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 12:07:03 -0400 From: Dutch Collins X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nik Clayton Cc: Bill Fumerola , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Please test the www/ repository changes References: <19990821001751.A44042@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> <19990821012430.A52145@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik Clayton wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 06:49:59PM -0400, Bill Fumerola wrote: > > On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: > > > > > There's been no comment about this one way or another -- I think my > > > changes are working OK, but it'd be nice to hear at least one "yes, works > > > here too" from someone before I turn this on for the live site. . . > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/web-docbook/ports/irc.html <-- doesn't exist > > how recently did you build this? > > Aug 19 at ~ 14.30, freefall time (PDT). > > Looking at it, I'm not suprised there's no irc.html, as > > http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/web-docbook/ports/ > > doesn't list an irc category. > > N > -- > [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, > non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs > the links. > -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> -- I started out at the URL -> http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/web-docbook/ports/ Was looking around and got the error. Port does not exists or invalid port name: ports/security/sentry/pkg/DESCR http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/ports/security/sentry/pkg/DESCR -dutch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 21 9:37:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AA0C14F64 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 09:35:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA67035 for doc@freebsd.org; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 16:26:05 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 16:26:05 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Turning formatted docs in to packages Message-ID: <19990821162604.A65171@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii -doc, As has been mentioned before, one of the aims behind the recent repo move was to clear up the whole doc/ building framework so that it was considerably easier to add new functionality. One of the new pieces of functionality that people have been asking for is to have the formatted documentation (PS, PDF, RTF, HTML, and so on) be available for easy download -- not everyone wants to download Jade, and TeX before they can see the FAQ in PDF format, for example. To fit this in with FreeBSD, the simplest approach would seem to be to create a collection of packages (i.e., something that you can run pkg_add(1) on), so that the end-user can do something like pkg_add ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/docs/pkg/faq-en_US.ISO_8859-1-html.tgz or pkg_add ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/docs/pkg/handbook-zh_TW.Big5-pdf.tgz or whatever. This makes it much easier for the end user to keep their installed documentation up to date, and to use commands like pkg_info(1) to see which documentation they have got installed. This also makes building releases easier -- currently, building the documentation is part of the action carried out by "make release". This increases the amount of time it takes to build a release, makes the whole "building a release" process more fragile, and puts an extra burden on us to ensure that any changes we make to the doc/ build process don't break "make release". To this end, attached, find a patch to docproj.docbook.mk, that implements a package building target. You can use this in one of two ways; % make package This will build packages of all documentation, based on the current value of the FORMATS variable. % make package- (i.e., "make package-pdf" or "make package-html") This will build a package of the current documentation in just that format. The packages are called {book,article}..tgz, and are placed in the current directory. I'd appreciate interested parties taking a look at this on their systems, and making any comments as necessary. One thing -- I believe the FreeBSD packages require that each package has a one line comment, and a (possibly) multi-line description. If you test this, you will need to add these to each piece of documentation you test it with. For example; [ after patching docproj.docbook.mk appropriately ] # cd doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq # echo "English (US ISO-8859-1 encoding) version of the FreeBSD FAQ" \ > COMMENT # cp COMMENT DESCR # make package Note also that as part of the package building process, the documentation *will* be installed in to ${DOCDIR} (probably /usr/doc on your system). Once you've created the packages, please try adding and deleting them from your system, and check that it all works OK for you. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=patch Index: docproj.docbook.mk =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/share/mk/docproj.docbook.mk,v retrieving revision 1.9 diff -u -r1.9 docproj.docbook.mk --- docproj.docbook.mk 1999/08/19 00:07:09 1.9 +++ docproj.docbook.mk 1999/08/21 15:10:16 @@ -90,7 +90,7 @@ JADEOPTS= ${JADEFLAGS} -c ${FREEBSDCATALOG} -c ${DSSSLCATALOG} -c ${DOCBOOKCATALOG} -c ${JADECATALOG} ${EXTRA_CATALOGS:S/^/-c /g} -KNOWN_FORMATS= html html-split html-split.tar txt rtf ps pdf tex dvi tar doc +KNOWN_FORMATS= html html-split html-split.tar txt rtf ps pdf tex dvi tar # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # If DOC_PREFIX is not set then try and generate a sensible value for it. @@ -279,6 +279,36 @@ validate: nsgmls -s -c ${FREEBSDCATALOG} -c ${DOCBOOKCATALOG} ${EXTRA_CATALOGS:S/^/-c /g} ${DOC}.sgml + +# ------------------------------------------------------------------------ +# +# Package building +# + +# +# Build a list of package targets for each output format. Each package +# target depends on the corresponding install target running. +# +.for _curformat in ${KNOWN_FORMATS} +_cf=${_curformat} +package-${_curformat}: install-${_curformat} + rm PLIST +.if ${_cf} == "html-split" + cp HTML.manifest PLIST +.else + echo ${DOC}.${_curformat} > PLIST +.endif + pkg_create -v -c COMMENT -d DESCR -f PLIST -p ${DESTDIR} \ + ${DOC}.${_curformat}.tgz +.endfor + +# +# Build one or more pkg_add(1)'able packages, based on all the current +# values of ${FORMATS}. Do this by listing all the appropriate +# package-* targets as dependencies. +# + +package: ${FORMATS:S/^/package-/} # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 21 9:37:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913F214FFC; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 09:35:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA73721; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:20:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:20:16 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: horikawa@jp.FreeBSD.org Cc: nik@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docproj.docbook.mk cruft, naming, splitting Message-ID: <19990821172015.A73105@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990819141916.A36423@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <19990821191858M.k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990821191858M.k-horik@yk.rim.or.jp>; from horikawa@jp.FreeBSD.org on Sat, Aug 21, 1999 at 07:18:58PM +0900 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Aug 21, 1999 at 07:18:58PM +0900, horikawa@jp.FreeBSD.org wrote: > Please take care with doc/ja_JP.eucJP/man/man[1-9]/Makefile. They > include /usr/share/mk/bsd.prog.mk, and use MAN[1-9] and MLINKS. Good point, and duly noted. I don't intend to go anywhere near that directory -- in particular, it doesn't use docproj.docbook.mk at the moment, so it will be left alone. I think the man* directories are exceptions to the rule that "everything under doc/ should be independent of /usr/share/mk". Cheers, N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 21 9:58:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E3A414F64; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 09:58:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 28B821C19; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 12:00:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 195993826; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 12:00:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 12:00:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please test the www/ repository changes In-Reply-To: <19990821012430.A52145@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: > Looking at it, I'm not suprised there's no irc.html, as > > http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/web-docbook/ports/ > > doesn't list an irc category. CVS log for www/en/ports/categories 1.5 Mon Jun 28 2:37:39 1999 UTC by billf Diffs to 1.4 New ports/{java,irc,x11-servers} categories, Step #5 - update misc files. -- - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 21 11: 4:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE01154F5; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:04:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA82007; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 18:23:39 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 18:23:39 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Bill Fumerola Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please test the www/ repository changes Message-ID: <19990821182338.B73105@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990821012430.A52145@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Bill Fumerola on Sat, Aug 21, 1999 at 12:00:13PM -0400 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Aug 21, 1999 at 12:00:13PM -0400, Bill Fumerola wrote: > On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: > > > Looking at it, I'm not suprised there's no irc.html, as > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/web-docbook/ports/ > > > > doesn't list an irc category. > > CVS log for www/en/ports/categories > > 1.5 Mon Jun 28 2:37:39 1999 UTC by billf > Diffs to 1.4 > > New ports/{java,irc,x11-servers} categories, Step #5 - update misc files. Problem found -- I built the web pages above on freefall, with -DNOPORTSCVS (it's faster). /usr/ports on freefall hasn't been updated recently, and the mechanism that creates these pages looks in /usr/ports (if -DNOPORTSCVS is set) to work out what to build. If the web site's built as it's intended to be then this problem goes away. S'OK, I've just figured this out myself. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 21 11:33:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub3.isdnet.net (mailhub3.isdnet.net [195.154.209.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A1C814EE4 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:33:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pascal.roget@fnac.net) Received: from Fnac.fnac.net (ppp6-grenoble.isdnet.net [195.154.3.133]) by mailhub3.isdnet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA28638 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 20:32:19 +0200 (CEST) From: pascal.roget@fnac.net Message-ID: <002901beec03$2d4b01e0$85039ac3@fnac.net> To: Subject: Picture Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 20:29:56 +0200 Organization: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0026_01BEEC13.EE578740" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01BEEC13.EE578740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi... 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------=_NextPart_000_0026_01BEEC13.EE578740-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 21 15:40:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 067181544E for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 15:40:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA52690; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 15:40:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 9284814D11; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 15:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <19990821223002.9284814D11@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 15:30:02 -0700 (PDT) From: sobomax@altavista.net To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/13310: [PATCH] Man pages typos and inconsistencies... Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13310 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [PATCH] Man pages typos and inconsistencies... >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Aug 21 15:40:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Maxim Sobolev >Release: 4.0-CURRENT >Organization: Vega International Capital >Environment: FreeBSD home 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #11: Sat Aug 21 12:48:20 EEST 1999 root@home:/usr/src/sys/compile/MBSD i386 >Description: 1. syscons(4) man page incorrectly states that only 3 virtual terminals enabled by default (AFAIK 8 now, see src/etc/etc.i386/ttys) 2. typo on libalias(3) page - 102 insted of 192.. >How-To-Repeat: man syscons; man libalias ;) >Fix: --- libalias.3.orig Sun Aug 22 01:18:19 1999 +++ libalias.3 Sun Aug 22 01:20:32 1999 @@ -468,7 +468,7 @@ .Ed Any outgoing connections such as telnet or ftp -from 192.168.0.2, 102.168.0.3, 192.168.0.4 will +from 192.168.0.2, 192.168.0.3, 192.168.0.4 will appear to come from 141.221.254.101. Any incoming connections to 141.221.254.101 will be directed to 192.168.0.4. --- syscons.4.orig Sun Aug 22 01:18:13 1999 +++ syscons.4 Sun Aug 22 01:18:50 1999 @@ -84,7 +84,7 @@ will recognize them to be active and run .Xr login 1 to let the user to login to the system. -By default, only the first three virtual terminals are activated in +By default, only the first eight virtual terminals are activated in .Pa /etc/ttys . .Pp You press the >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 21 17:11:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E0914BFF for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:11:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA32833 for doc@freebsd.org; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 01:10:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 01:10:01 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Turning formatted docs in to packages Message-ID: <19990822011001.A32023@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990821162604.A65171@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990821162604.A65171@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Sat, Aug 21, 1999 at 04:26:05PM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Aug 21, 1999 at 04:26:05PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > To this end, attached, find a patch to docproj.docbook.mk, that implements > a package building target. If you go to http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/doc-pkg/ you'll see a collection of .tgz files. These are packages of the English FAQ, converted to various formats and run through that 'package' target. Any comments? N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 21 17:21: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FE9614E7B; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:21:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA34273; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 01:20:39 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 01:20:38 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org, committers@freebsd.org Subject: doc/ freeze lifted, "make release" probably broken Message-ID: <19990822012038.B28151@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Organization: Nik at home, where there's nothing going on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks, I'd love to send the following to -stable and -current as well, because the people there should know about it, particularly the release building problems. However, the mailing list software is rejecting them, even if I send them by hand. So, for the time being, this is just going to -doc and -committers. N ----- Forwarded message from Nik Clayton ----- Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 19:20:51 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org, committers@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: doc/ freeze lifted, "make release" probably broken Organization: FreeBSD Project Folks [ Sent to -doc, -committers, -stable, -current. To avoid spamming the lists with replies, "Reply-To:" points back to me ] I'm very pleased to announce the lifting of the freeze on the doc/ tree. The FreeBSD Documentation Project has now almost completed the transition from LinuxDoc to DocBook (3 small documents remain). This wouldn't have been possible without the contributions and hard work from many people, including, but not limited to; * John Polstra * Jun Kuriyama, and the other members of the Japanese translation team * Jesus Rodriguez, of the Spanish translation effort * Foxfair Hu, of the Chinese translation group * Andrey Chernov, of the Russian translaters and the many other members of the FDP who contributed comments and suggestions on the -doc mailing list. My thanks to all of you. In addition, I will very shortly be restarting the automatic re-generation of the FreeBSD website. The most visible change will be to the FAQ and tutorial sections. As you look over these documents, please remember that this is still early days, and that the formatting of these documents is open to review, and your suggestions and comments are appreciated. There is one item to note: it is highly likely that trying to build a release without defining the "NODOC" variable will fail. My preferred approach to fixing this is to move the documentation building completely outside of the release structure. The formatted documentation will shortly be available as packages. However, if this doesn't prove feasible then effort will be expended in fixing src/release/Makefile to cope with the new structure. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> ----- End forwarded message ----- -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 21 19:50: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C055C150D5 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 19:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id TAA64232; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 19:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 19:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199908220250.TAA64232@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Jim Mock Subject: Re: docs/10182: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=5038 Reply-To: Jim Mock Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/10182; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Jim Mock To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Cc: jkoshy@FreeBSD.org, wosch@FreeBSD.org, tom@eborcom.com Subject: Re: docs/10182: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=5038 Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 12:42:21 +1000 Any objections to this PR being closed? I'll close it tomorrow if no one speaks up by then. -- - Jim Mock - jim@blues.ghis.net - systems administrator - ghis.NET - - work: http://www.ghis.net/ - personal: http://www.ghis.net/~jim/ - - FreeBSD 'zine: http://www.freebsdzine.org/ - jim@freebsdzine.org - - The FreeBSD Project -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - jim@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 21 20:25:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mc-qout2.whowhere.com (nytoday.whowhere.com [209.1.236.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 024E514EE9 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 20:25:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abe.arif@eudoramail.com) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by shared1-mail.whowhere.com; Sat Aug 21 20:17:26 1999 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 10:17:26 +0700 From: "Abe Gnet Arif" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: my firs question X-Sender-Ip: 202.146.251.2 Organization: QUALCOMM Eudora Web-Mail (http://www.eudoramail.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 282 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How i can get "kern.flp" and "msfroot.flp"...i have already down load "fdimage.exe" for yours instruction next step is...? (i wana install FreeBSD tu my PC) Thanks.. alot.. Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 21 21:35:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7752314D20; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 21:35:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jim@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id VAA71664; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 21:32:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 21:32:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199908220432.VAA71664@freefall.freebsd.org> To: wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org, jim@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/10084: new FreeBSD user group in Yogyakarta City Indonesia Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: new FreeBSD user group in Yogyakarta City Indonesia State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jim State-Changed-When: Sat Aug 21 21:29:43 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed in rev 1.159 of support.sgml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 21 21:35:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 679D914D20; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 21:35:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jim@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id VAA71842; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 21:34:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 21:34:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199908220434.VAA71842@freefall.freebsd.org> To: eagle@freebsd-fr.org, jim@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12625: Update links for French Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update links for French State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jim State-Changed-When: Sat Aug 21 21:32:30 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Committed in rev 1.159 of support.sgml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 21 22: 5:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B442414D91; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 22:05:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jim@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id WAA73622; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 22:03:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 22:03:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199908220503.WAA73622@freefall.freebsd.org> To: eagle@freebsd-fr.org, jim@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/12627: update the French FreeBSD Documentation Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: update the French FreeBSD Documentation Project State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jim State-Changed-When: Sat Aug 21 22:00:29 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Patch committed, thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Aug 21 22:13:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 727171515D; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 22:13:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jkh@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id WAA73942; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 22:13:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 22:13:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <199908220513.WAA73942@freefall.freebsd.org> To: phantom@cris.net, jkh@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13271: sysinstall.8 still have some style problems and out-of-date Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: sysinstall.8 still have some style problems and out-of-date State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jkh State-Changed-When: Sat Aug 21 22:12:46 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Fixes taken, thanks. Changed some .Fx lines because you can't say "3.x" or "1.x" here without formatting complaints. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message