From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 5 13:24:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D5441590A for ; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 13:23:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA94316 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 13:22:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Latest docs build breakage during make release Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 13:22:07 -0700 Message-ID: <94313.936562927@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ===> en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 book.html /R/stage/trees/bin/usr/share/doc/e n_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 `xargs < HTML.manifest` /R/stage/trees/bin/u sr/share/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 book.txt /R/stage/trees/bin/usr/share/doc/en _US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook /R/stage/trees/bin/usr/share/doc/faq -> /R/stage/trees/bin/usr/share/doc/en_US.I SO_8859-1/books/faq /R/stage/trees/bin/usr/share/doc/handbook -> /R/stage/trees/bin/usr/share/doc/en _US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook rm: handbook: is a directory *** Error code 1 Any ideas guys? - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 5 14:53:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90379158E8; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 14:53:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA79296; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 22:44:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA06148; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 23:47:44 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 23:47:44 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: David Stein Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, grog@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Suggestion - List IRC resources Message-ID: <19990904234744.A5172@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <000801bef639$4be944a0$6a3efea9@david> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <000801bef639$4be944a0$6a3efea9@david>; from David Stein on Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 02:22:34PM -0400 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 02:22:34PM -0400, David Stein wrote: > So I'd like to suggest that you include IRC as a possible resource (on > the freebsd.org web site, Happy to. I don't use IRC myself, but I know plenty of people who do. If you've got some appropriate text that you'd like to see added (along, maybe, with links to useful places for someone who's likely to be new to both FreeBSD and IRC) then I'd appreciate a copy. Diffs to the existing pages would be even better. As I say, not using it myself I'm exactly the wrong person to be able to write this sort of thing. > and in "The Complete FreeBSD"). That's Greg Lehey's baby, and I can't speak for him. I know he reads this list though, so doubtless he'll get back to you as necessary. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 5 14:58:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB3D14C3B; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 14:58:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7CE2F1C24; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 16:59:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E98A3817; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 16:59:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 16:59:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: Nik Clayton Cc: David Stein , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, grog@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Suggestion - List IRC resources In-Reply-To: <19990904234744.A5172@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 4 Sep 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 02:22:34PM -0400, David Stein wrote: > > So I'd like to suggest that you include IRC as a possible resource (on > > the freebsd.org web site, > > Happy to. I don't use IRC myself, but I know plenty of people who do. You should, every now and then something good comes out of it. :> > If you've got some appropriate text that you'd like to see added (along, > maybe, with links to useful places for someone who's likely to be new to > both FreeBSD and IRC) then I'd appreciate a copy. Diffs to the existing > pages would be even better. As I say, not using it myself I'm exactly > the wrong person to be able to write this sort of thing. I'll say it again, the FAQ already addresses this. -- - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 5 15:11:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C046115387; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 15:11:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA83944; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 23:08:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 23:08:45 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Andrew Boothman Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@FreeBSD.ORG, Warner Losh , Neil Blakey-Milner Subject: Re: Help Message-ID: <19990905230845.A81295@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990904155456.A52990@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Andrew Boothman on Sat, Sep 04, 1999 at 06:00:10PM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Sep 04, 1999 at 06:00:10PM +0100, Andrew Boothman wrote: > On 04-Sep-99 Nik Clayton wrote: > > There was an announcement on Freshmeat (http://www.freshmeat.net/) a > > few weeks back about a small app that would take a tree of CVS files > > and build a GNU style ChangeLog file from the CVS log messages. A > > search for "CVS ChangeLog" on Freshmeat should find it. > > I've looked into this and the relevent page is > http://www.red-bean.com/~kfogel/cvs2cl.shtml > > Two problems : > > 1) When I run it I get : > > ./cvs2cl.pl: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `' > ./cvs2cl.pl: line 1: `<plaintext>' You downloaded it from his web site. Somehow he's screwed up, and included an HTML tag at the top. Remove the first <plaintext> and any blank lines before the #! line. > 2) I know very little about CVS and I'm not sure how to use it. Is it possible > to get the logs needed without storing the CVS repository on my own machine? Probably not, unfortunately. You've prompted me to dig this out though and look at the output. http://www.freebsd.org/~nik/ChangeLog is the log generated by % cd ~/FreeBSD-CVS/www/en % ~/cvs2cl.pl -r Comments appreciated. Off the top of my head I think we need options for HTML output (or, more generally, a ChangeLog -> HTML converter), and an option that produces ChangeLog.Year files (ChangeLog.1998, ChangeLog.1999, and so on) instead of one big log file -- although that should be possible to fake up with a little bit of shell programming. That ChangeLog is about 200K in size. . . N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 5 15:17: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 272831531B; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 15:16:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA88463; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 15:15:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 15:15:17 -0700 (PDT) From: <nik@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199909052215.PAA88463@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13571: Fix DOC_PREFIX to use .CURDIR (to make obj builds safe) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Fix DOC_PREFIX to use .CURDIR (to make obj builds safe) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Sun Sep 5 15:14:59 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Fixed. My cock-up in the first place. Cheers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 5 15:36:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rucus.ru.ac.za (rucus.ru.ac.za [146.231.29.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8033414E64 for <doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 15:36:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za) Received: (qmail 95886 invoked by uid 1003); 5 Sep 1999 22:37:10 -0000 Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 00:37:10 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner <nbm@mithrandr.moria.org> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com> Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latest docs build breakage during make release Message-ID: <19990906003709.A93747@rucus.ru.ac.za> References: <94313.936562927@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: <94313.936562927@localhost>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Sun, Sep 05, 1999 at 01:22:07PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun 1999-09-05 (13:22), Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 book.html /R/stage/trees/bin/usr/share/doc/e > n_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 `xargs < HTML.manifest` /R/stage/trees/bin/u > sr/share/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 book.txt /R/stage/trees/bin/usr/share/doc/en > _US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook > /R/stage/trees/bin/usr/share/doc/faq -> /R/stage/trees/bin/usr/share/doc/en_US.I > SO_8859-1/books/faq > /R/stage/trees/bin/usr/share/doc/handbook -> /R/stage/trees/bin/usr/share/doc/en > _US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook > rm: handbook: is a directory > *** Error code 1 > > Any ideas guys? I assume the mtree file is up to date, but is there still a usr/share/doc/handbook directory there? Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 5 15:39: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DA9314D82 for <doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 15:38:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA95261; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 15:37:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Neil Blakey-Milner <nbm@mithrandr.moria.org> Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latest docs build breakage during make release In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 06 Sep 1999 00:37:10 +0200." <19990906003709.A93747@rucus.ru.ac.za> Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 15:37:40 -0700 Message-ID: <95257.936571060@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Any ideas guys? > > I assume the mtree file is up to date, but is there still a > usr/share/doc/handbook directory there? If it's there, it's only because an mtree or installation script created it - this is in a fresh chroot area as part of make release. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 5 15:42:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rucus.ru.ac.za (rucus.ru.ac.za [146.231.29.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B51614F89 for <doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 15:42:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za) Received: (qmail 97814 invoked by uid 1003); 5 Sep 1999 22:43:23 -0000 Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 00:43:23 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner <nbm@mithrandr.moria.org> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com> Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latest docs build breakage during make release Message-ID: <19990906004323.A97212@rucus.ru.ac.za> References: <19990906003709.A93747@rucus.ru.ac.za> <95257.936571060@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: <95257.936571060@localhost>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Sun, Sep 05, 1999 at 03:37:40PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun 1999-09-05 (15:37), Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > Any ideas guys? > > > > I assume the mtree file is up to date, but is there still a > > usr/share/doc/handbook directory there? > > If it's there, it's only because an mtree or installation script > created it - this is in a fresh chroot area as part of make > release. :) I thought it must be - I assume the directory is there then? This is for -STABLE? I don't think the removal of the doc stuff from src/etc/mtree/BSD.usr.dist has been MFC'd - see revision 1.164. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 5 18:59:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp13.bellglobal.com (smtp13.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FB9414D5E; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 18:59:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vanderh@ecf.toronto.edu) Received: from localhost.nowhere (ppp18360.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.130.40]) by smtp13.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA24002; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 21:59:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by localhost.nowhere (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA71588; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 21:57:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tim) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 21:57:27 -0400 From: Tim Vanderhoek <vanderh@ecf.utoronto.ca> To: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org> Cc: David Stein <dstein@mediaone.net>, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, grog@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestion - List IRC resources Message-ID: <19990905215727.A70327@mad> References: <000801bef639$4be944a0$6a3efea9@david> <19990904234744.A5172@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <19990904234744.A5172@kilt.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Sat, Sep 04, 1999 at 11:47:44PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Sep 04, 1999 at 11:47:44PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > > If you've got some appropriate text that you'd like to see added (along, > maybe, with links to useful places for someone who's likely to be new to Do not add any text on IRC. Not without permission of jkh, at least. :) This is something that was decided some time ago because too often (even with it unlisted), newbies get abused on IRC, or don't know what to expect. I believe jkh wrote a rather long convincing rant on this. The original reasons for not listing IRC are just as (or more) valid now as they were then. The existing FAQ entry (which billf already pointed out) is more than enough. Message-Id references (in threaded form, woo-hoo!! :): XFMail.981029005747.lh@aus.org (luk@aus.org, initial message) -> 3505.909648439@time.cdrom.com (statement by Jordan) xzp4spn6grj.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no (listed by implicit request of des) Pine.BSF.4.05.9901190941490.352-100000@fireball.2000.com.au (initial message) -> 38548.916712153@zippy.cdrom.com (jkh gets started) -> Pine.BSF.4.05.9901191310350.7090-100000@fireball.2000.com.au -> 38685.916714148@zippy.cdrom.com (classic Jordan) -> Pine.BSF.4.05.9901182253210.28569-100000@shattered.disturbed.net -> 19990119165019.33506@welearn.com.au (Sue had so much potential as a flame artist, this is off-topic of IRC by now, though...) There have been other newbies who came running confused and dazed to the mailing-lists after getting knocked around a little in IRC. This one just had an ability to start threads that don't get forgotten quickly. :) url refs: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/doc/FAQ/Attic/preface.sgml (jkh's change to the IRC docs) -- This is my .signature which gets appended to the end of my messages. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 5 19: 4:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp13.bellglobal.com (smtp13.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8250D15799; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 19:04:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vanderh@ecf.toronto.edu) Received: from localhost.nowhere (ppp18360.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.130.40]) by smtp13.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA25951; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 22:05:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by localhost.nowhere (8.9.3/8.9.1) id WAA71873; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 22:04:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tim) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 22:04:01 -0400 From: Tim Vanderhoek <vanderh@ecf.utoronto.ca> To: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org> Cc: David Stein <dstein@mediaone.net>, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, grog@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestion - List IRC resources Message-ID: <19990905220401.C70327@mad> References: <000801bef639$4be944a0$6a3efea9@david> <19990904234744.A5172@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <19990905215727.A70327@mad> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <19990905215727.A70327@mad>; from Tim Vanderhoek on Sun, Sep 05, 1999 at 09:57:27PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Sep 05, 1999 at 09:57:27PM -0400, Tim Vanderhoek wrote: > > Do not add any text on IRC. Not without permission of jkh, at > least. :) This is something that was decided some time ago because [...] You should have experienced a slight sense of deja-vu when you read the quoted message... -- This is my .signature which gets appended to the end of my messages. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 5 21: 5:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8305A158C3; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 21:05:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 86F8A1C24; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 23:09:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E653817; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 23:09:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 23:09:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola <billf@jade.chc-chimes.com> To: Tim Vanderhoek <vanderh@ecf.utoronto.ca> Cc: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org>, David Stein <dstein@mediaone.net>, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, grog@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestion - List IRC resources In-Reply-To: <19990905215727.A70327@mad> Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9909052308400.27446-100000@jade.chc-chimes.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 5 Sep 1999, Tim Vanderhoek wrote: > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/doc/FAQ/Attic/preface.sgml > (jkh's change to the IRC docs) Which backed out my changes to at least give a distorted reality. Jordan was just plain blunt. -- - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 5 22:12:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B02D2150A5; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 22:12:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id WAA11862; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 22:12:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 22:12:12 -0700 (PDT) From: <phantom@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199909060512.WAA11862@freefall.freebsd.org> To: phantom@cris.net, phantom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, phantom@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13409: -mdoc style fix for getopt.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: -mdoc style fix for getopt.1 State-Changed-From-To: open->suspended State-Changed-By: phantom State-Changed-When: Sun Sep 5 22:10:25 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Patch applied in -CURENT, but not stable because of code freeze. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->phantom Responsible-Changed-By: phantom Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Sep 5 22:10:25 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll commit that to -STABLE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 5 22:47:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from escambia.se.mediaone.net (escambia.se.mediaone.net [24.129.0.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD5A21526E; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 22:47:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dstein@mediaone.net) Received: from snoopy (jas104-56-136.jacksonville.net [24.129.56.136] (may be forged)) by escambia.se.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA24681; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 01:46:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "David" <dstein@mediaone.net> To: "Bill Fumerola" <billf@jade.chc-chimes.com>, "Tim Vanderhoek" <vanderh@ecf.utoronto.ca> Cc: "Nik Clayton" <nik@freebsd.org>, <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>, <grog@freebsd.org> Subject: RE: Suggestion - List IRC resources Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 02:01:24 -0400 Message-ID: <000e01bef82d$4073cbe0$88388118@snoopy> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9909052308400.27446-100000@jade.chc-chimes.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ok I apologize to all for any commotion I created. I can COMPLETELY understand that having chat channels listed could cause you more trouble than its worth!! I also see its *already* mentioned in the FAQ in the preface (I generally don't read preface). Ok again, sorry for taking everyone's time - please kill this thread. > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Fumerola [mailto:billf@jade.chc-chimes.com] > Sent: Sunday, September 05, 1999 11:09 PM > To: Tim Vanderhoek > Cc: Nik Clayton; David Stein; freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; grog@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Suggestion - List IRC resources > > > On Sun, 5 Sep 1999, Tim Vanderhoek wrote: > > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/doc/FAQ/Attic/preface.sgml > > (jkh's change to the IRC docs) > > Which backed out my changes to at least give a distorted reality. > Jordan was just plain blunt. > > -- > - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - > - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 6 7:52:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.kt.rim.or.jp (mail.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B2914E58 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 07:52:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp) Received: from rhea.sky.rim.or.jp (ppp534.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.140.184]) by mail.kt.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.6W-RIMNET-98-06-09) with ESMTP id XAA14555 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 23:52:09 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost.sky.rim.or.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rhea.sky.rim.or.jp (8.9.3/3.7W/rhea-1.1) with ESMTP id XAA53242 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 23:52:08 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 23:52:05 +0900 Message-ID: <14291.54548.4992.72159A@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama <kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp> To: Documentation Team <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org> Subject: About www/en/security/security.sgml User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.0.3 (Notorious) SEMI/1.13.3 (Komaiko) FLIM/1.12.5 (Hirahata) MULE XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.3 - "Komaiko") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org When I try to translate this sentence, I cannot make clear whether mkstemp() should be used or not. Can someone clarify this? --- www/en/security/security.sgml <LI>Make sure to use mkstemp() instead of mktemp(), tempnam(), mkstemp() and etc. Also make sure to look for races in /tmp in general, being aware that there are very few things which can be atomic in /tmp: <UL> <LI>Creating a directory. This will either succeed or fail.</LI> <LI>Opening a file O_CREAT | O_EXECL</LI> </UL> If you use mkstemp - above cases will be properly handled for you. Hence all temp files should use mkstemp() to guarantee there is not race condition and that the permissions are correct. <P></P></LI> --- Jun Kuriyama // kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp // kuriyama@FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 6 8: 2:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E89154EB; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 08:02:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (adsl-216-62-157-60.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) by mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.05.24.18.28.p7) with ESMTP id <0FHN00M7N8CIS7@mta3.rcsntx.swbell.net>; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 10:00:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA41129; Mon, 06 Sep 1999 10:02:46 -0500 (CDT envelope-from chris) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 10:02:45 -0500 From: Chris Costello <chris@calldei.com> Subject: Re: About www/en/security/security.sgml In-reply-to: <14291.54548.4992.72159A@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> To: Jun Kuriyama <kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp> Cc: Documentation Team <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19990906100245.A28409@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.6i References: <14291.54548.4992.72159A@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Sep 06, 1999, Jun Kuriyama wrote: > > When I try to translate this sentence, I cannot make clear whether > mkstemp() should be used or not. Can someone clarify this? It looks like somebody made a mistake. I'm CC'ing this to jkh as he was the one to commit this. It says that mkstemp should be used instead of a group of others, but in that group of others, mkstemp is specified! -- |Chris Costello <chris@calldei.com> |"Mr. Worf, scan that ship." "Aye, Captain... 300 DPI?" `------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 6 8:15:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B2414C26 for <doc@freebsd.org>; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 08:15:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA70902 for <doc@freebsd.org>; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 08:14:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: explosion in FAQ this morning.. Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 08:14:43 -0700 Message-ID: <70898.936630883@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ===> FAQ sgmlfmt -f html -links /usr/doc/FAQ/FAQ.sgml sgmlfmt -f html-split -links /usr/doc/FAQ/FAQ.sgml "html-split" is an unknown output format. Usage: sgmlfmt [-d <doctype>] -f <format> [-i <namea> ...] [-links] [-e encoding] [-hdr file] [-ftr file] file where <doctype> is one of: linuxdoc (default), docbook. and <format> is one of: ascii, html, koi8-r, latin1, ps, roff *** Error code 1 This is when making a release on the 3.3-STABLE (erm, RC :) branch. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 6 8:46:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.kt.rim.or.jp (mail.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19914159B8; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 08:46:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp) Received: from rhea.sky.rim.or.jp (ppp968.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.140.149]) by mail.kt.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.6W-RIMNET-98-06-09) with ESMTP id AAA28836; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 00:45:02 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost.sky.rim.or.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rhea.sky.rim.or.jp (8.9.3/3.7W/rhea-1.1) with ESMTP id AAA55118; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 00:44:59 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 00:44:58 +0900 Message-ID: <14291.57722.864221.81928B@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama <kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp> To: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org> Cc: Documentation Team <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org> Subject: ${PREFIX} in doc/share/mk/doc.*.mk User-Agent: Wanderlust/1.0.3 (Notorious) SEMI/1.13.3 (Komaiko) FLIM/1.12.5 (Hirahata) MULE XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.3 - "Komaiko") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Usually, ${PREFIX} is used target directory for *each* port in Ports Collection. If you want to point "jade" location, you should use ${LOCALBASE} in Ports. If Documentation Project doesn't depend on X program, I'd like to suggest patches below. ----- Index: doc.docbook.mk =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/share/mk/doc.docbook.mk,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 doc.docbook.mk --- doc.docbook.mk 1999/09/03 17:07:18 1.1 +++ doc.docbook.mk 1999/09/06 15:15:21 @@ -45,15 +45,15 @@ MASTERDOC?= ${.CURDIR}/${DOC}.sgml -JADE= ${PREFIX}/bin/jade +JADE= ${LOCALBASE}/bin/jade DSLHTML= ${DOC_PREFIX}/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl DSLPRINT= ${DOC_PREFIX}/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl FREEBSDCATALOG= ${DOC_PREFIX}/share/sgml/catalog -DOCBOOKCATALOG= ${PREFIX}/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -JADECATALOG= ${PREFIX}/share/sgml/jade/catalog -DSSSLCATALOG= ${PREFIX}/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog +DOCBOOKCATALOG= ${LOCALBASE}/share/sgml/docbook/catalog +JADECATALOG= ${LOCALBASE}/share/sgml/jade/catalog +DSSSLCATALOG= ${LOCALBASE}/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog JADEOPTS= ${JADEFLAGS} -c ${FREEBSDCATALOG} -c ${DSSSLCATALOG} -c ${DOCBOOKCATALOG} -c ${JADECATALOG} ${EXTRA_CATALOGS:S/^/-c /g} Index: doc.project.mk =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/share/mk/doc.project.mk,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 doc.project.mk --- doc.project.mk 1999/09/03 17:07:18 1.1 +++ doc.project.mk 1999/09/06 15:16:24 @@ -27,7 +27,7 @@ # # User-modifiable variables: # -# PREFIX Standard path to document-building applications +# LOCALBASE Standard path to document-building applications # installed to serve the documentation build # process, usually by installing the docproj port # or package. Default is /usr/local @@ -59,7 +59,7 @@ MAINTAINER?= doc@FreeBSD.org # User-modifiable -PREFIX?= /usr/local +LOCALBASE?= /usr/local PRI_LANG?= en_US.ISO_8859-1 # Format-specific configuration ----- Jun Kuriyama // kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp // kuriyama@FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 6 9:46:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E911514C07 for <doc@freebsd.org>; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 09:46:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from mailrelay.vt.edu (gkar.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.40]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA14988; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 12:46:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu) by gkar.cc.vt.edu (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.05.24.18.28.p7) with ESMTP id <0FHN00749D8VPA@gkar.cc.vt.edu>; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 12:46:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 12:46:14 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin <jobaldwi@vt.edu> Subject: RE: explosion in FAQ this morning.. In-reply-to: <70898.936630883@localhost> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com> Cc: doc@freebsd.org Message-id: <0FHN0074AD8VPA@gkar.cc.vt.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 06-Sep-99 Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > ===> FAQ > sgmlfmt -f html -links /usr/doc/FAQ/FAQ.sgml > sgmlfmt -f html-split -links /usr/doc/FAQ/FAQ.sgml > "html-split" is an unknown output format. > Usage: > sgmlfmt [-d <doctype>] -f <format> [-i <namea> ...] [-links] > [-e encoding] [-hdr file] [-ftr file] file > where <doctype> is one of: linuxdoc (default), docbook. > and <format> is one of: ascii, html, koi8-r, latin1, ps, roff > *** Error code 1 > > This is when making a release on the 3.3-STABLE (erm, RC :) branch. Umm..you should not be doing anything in /usr/doc/FAQ. That directory should be cvs-remove'd by now. The FAQ is supposed to be built in /usr/doc/<lang>/books/faq/. Is your /usr/doc/Makefile up to date? It should be revision 1.14 or later, and should include doc.subdir.mk at the bottom. > - Jordan --- John Baldwin <jobaldwi@vt.edu> -- http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 6 11: 3:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EB12159FF for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 11:03:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA56877 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 11:03:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 11:03:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199909061803.LAA56877@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster <bugmaster@freebsd.org> To: FreeBSD doc list <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org> Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- f [1999/08/05] docs/12988 doc [Patch] Fix more occurances of 'sd' in FA o [1999/08/11] docs/13088 doc Handbook lists support for Adaptec 2930, 2 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a [1998/07/31] docs/7456 doc dialog(3) man page outdated a [1998/08/31] docs/7791 doc ipf(1) and ipfstat(1) should have been ip o [1998/09/13] docs/7914 doc no elf(5) manpage o [1998/10/25] docs/8445 doc Update of "Installing Mathematica on Free o [1999/02/14] docs/10085 doc NIS Setup Tutorial o [1999/02/14] docs/10098 doc Lack of overall guide for NIS setup o [1999/02/25] docs/10240 doc We need a script which check if our web m o [1999/03/18] docs/10664 doc Notes on 2.2.8 -> 3.1 migration o [1999/03/29] docs/10850 doc submitting a documentation change for sed o [1999/04/07] docs/10997 doc Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi o [1999/04/21] docs/11258 doc suggestion to refine npx.4 o [1999/06/01] docs/11978 doc timed(8) manpage does not define '-F' swi o [1999/07/22] bin/12767 doc Expand /etc/ttys manpage o [1999/08/04] docs/12951 doc missing link to japanese mailing list gui o [1999/08/04] docs/12969 doc Informacion incorrecta para versiones Fre o [1999/08/08] docs/13034 doc incorrect (old/obsolete) manpage for name o [1999/08/08] docs/13037 doc netstat(1) -a flag with -r is undocumente o [1999/08/12] docs/13096 doc Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/applications.sgml o [1999/08/13] docs/13116 doc typo in ms(7) o [1999/08/14] docs/13134 doc A typo in ax.4 manual pages o [1999/08/15] docs/13153 doc fdc.4 has typo (a line which begin with ' o [1999/08/17] docs/13194 doc Bad info in handbook/kernelconfig o [1999/08/17] docs/13207 doc Update to the FAQ o [1999/08/18] docs/13222 doc Missing links for {v,}{err,warn}c functio o [1999/08/18] docs/13225 doc fpa.4 seems to be i386 specific and shoul o [1999/08/18] docs/13229 doc hier.7 is out-of-date o [1999/08/20] docs/13283 doc A macro used in 'asc.4' should be changed o [1999/08/21] docs/13284 doc Allow .Rv macro for man section 7 o [1999/08/21] docs/13289 doc sc is documented, but manpage not present o [1999/08/23] docs/13333 doc remove rtld(1) XREF in dlopen.3 o [1999/08/23] misc/13341 doc FAQ 8.7 addition - booting drive 1 from N o [1999/08/24] docs/13345 doc obj-related DOC_PREFIX? changes o [1999/08/24] docs/13354 doc URL corrections for www/en/gallery/galler o [1999/08/24] docs/13356 doc Corrections to www/en/gallery/gallery.db o [1999/08/25] docs/13379 doc add obj'ability to doc build o [1999/08/26] docs/13403 doc FAQ update for memory limits o [1999/08/28] docs/13439 doc Update docproj.docbook.mk for palm doc fo o [1999/08/28] docs/13441 doc incorrect path in SGML_CATALOG_FILES env o [1999/08/28] docs/13442 doc docproj-primer does not mention where to o [1999/08/29] docs/13462 doc http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/stable.ht 40 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 6 13:26:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBED115773 for <doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 13:26:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA44252; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 21:02:48 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA40142; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 08:37:33 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 08:37:32 +0100 From: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org> To: Neil Blakey-Milner <nbm@mithrandr.moria.org> Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latest docs build breakage during make release Message-ID: <19990906083732.A39890@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990906003709.A93747@rucus.ru.ac.za> <95257.936571060@localhost> <19990906004323.A97212@rucus.ru.ac.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990906004323.A97212@rucus.ru.ac.za>; from Neil Blakey-Milner on Mon, Sep 06, 1999 at 12:43:23AM +0200 Organization: FreeBSD Project <URL:http://www.freebsd.org/> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Sep 06, 1999 at 12:43:23AM +0200, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > On Sun 1999-09-05 (15:37), Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > > > Any ideas guys? > > > > > > I assume the mtree file is up to date, but is there still a > > > usr/share/doc/handbook directory there? > > > > If it's there, it's only because an mtree or installation script > > created it - this is in a fresh chroot area as part of make > > release. :) > > I thought it must be - I assume the directory is there then? > > This is for -STABLE? I don't think the removal of the doc stuff from > src/etc/mtree/BSD.usr.dist has been MFC'd - see revision 1.164. It hasn't. I wanted feedback from -current before doing the merge. There are several such messages from me about this in the -current archives for the past week or so. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 6 13:28:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A781815597; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 13:28:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA44239; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 21:02:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA50043; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 21:03:32 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 21:03:32 +0100 From: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org> To: Tim Vanderhoek <vanderh@ecf.utoronto.ca> Cc: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org>, David Stein <dstein@mediaone.net>, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, grog@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestion - List IRC resources Message-ID: <19990906210332.A49163@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <000801bef639$4be944a0$6a3efea9@david> <19990904234744.A5172@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <19990905215727.A70327@mad> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990905215727.A70327@mad>; from Tim Vanderhoek on Sun, Sep 05, 1999 at 09:57:27PM -0400 Organization: FreeBSD Project <URL:http://www.freebsd.org/> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Sep 05, 1999 at 09:57:27PM -0400, Tim Vanderhoek wrote: > On Sat, Sep 04, 1999 at 11:47:44PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > > If you've got some appropriate text that you'd like to see added (along, > > maybe, with links to useful places for someone who's likely to be new to > > Do not add any text on IRC. How about Internet Relay Chat IRC is not for the novice, and you should not try and use it for technical support. However, on the FreeBSD channels you are likely to find other people who run FreeBSD, and you are welcome to talk about whatever you want. In this respect it is a lot like the -chat mailing list, where 'off topic' discussion is allowed. See _the FAQ_ for more information about the channels that FreeBSD users are likely to frequent. But remember, asking technical questions on these channels is likely to get you strongly flamed. Be sure you understand the conventions first. ? The only problem I have with this is putting it on a page that's labelled 'Support'. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 6 14:11:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 371BE14BFF for <doc@freebsd.org>; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 14:11:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA72271; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 14:09:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: John Baldwin <jobaldwi@vt.edu> Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: explosion in FAQ this morning.. In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 06 Sep 1999 12:46:14 EDT." <0FHN0074AD8VPA@gkar.cc.vt.edu> Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 14:09:59 -0700 Message-ID: <72267.936652199@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > This is when making a release on the 3.3-STABLE (erm, RC :) branch. > > Umm..you should not be doing anything in /usr/doc/FAQ. That directory > should be cvs-remove'd by now. The FAQ is supposed to be built in > /usr/doc/<lang>/books/faq/. Again, this is a make release. If there's a /usr/doc/FAQ there, it's because the `cvs co doc' checked one out. :) All release builds start with a blank slate, as it were, and if there are components which shouldn't be there, directories which shouldn't exist or build failures which occur, it's all due to some problem in the doc sources, the mtree templates or src/release/Makefile, not a procedural error. The stuff in src/release/Makefile is also pretty straight-forward so I tend to suspect that it's one of the others. > Is your /usr/doc/Makefile up to date? It should be revision 1.14 or > later, and should include doc.subdir.mk at the bottom. I'll check this just to verify it, but since I'm now building with NODOC=YES in all my tests just so I can get a test snapshot out, I'll have to restart my build first. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 6 14:20:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7470159B3 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 14:20:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA73280; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 14:20:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from sand.global.net.uk (sand.global.net.uk [195.147.248.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A73815506 for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 14:13:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@globalnet.co.uk) Received: from pd5s08a07.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.232.214] helo=marder-1.) by sand.global.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11O64m-0000r4-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 22:13:20 +0100 Received: (from root@localhost) by marder-1. (8.9.2/8.8.8) id WAA01403; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 22:05:25 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Message-Id: <199909062105.WAA01403@marder-1.> Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 22:05:25 +0100 (BST) From: Mark Ovens <mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org> Reply-To: Mark Ovens <mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org> To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/13605: Add content for the empty section on floppy backups in the handbook. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13605 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Add content for the empty section on floppy backups in the handbook. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Sep 6 14:20:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Mark Ovens <mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org> >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: Add content for the empty section "What about backups to floppies?" in the handbook. >How-To-Repeat: Read chapter of the handbook. >Fix: Apply the following diffs. I have also changed the order of the sections in this chapter because 9. Backups 9.1. Tape Media 9.2. Backup Programs 9.3. What about backups to floppies? seems more logical than 9. Backups 9.1. What about backups to floppies? 9.2. Tape Media 9.3. Backup Programs *** /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/backups/chapter.sgml.orig Sat Aug 28 16:20:37 1999 --- /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/backups/chapter.sgml Mon Sep 6 21:46:38 1999 *************** *** 30,41 **** remember to specify exactly what version of FreeBSD you are using and include as many details of your hardware as possible.</para> - <sect1> - <title>* What about backups to floppies?</title> - - <para></para> - </sect1> - <sect1 id="backups-tapebackups"> <title>Tape Media</title> --- 30,35 ---- *************** *** 607,612 **** --- 601,707 ---- </sect3> </sect2> </sect1> + + <sect1 id="backups-floppybackups"> + <title>What about backups to floppies?</title> + + <sect2 id="floppies-using"> + <title>Can I use floppies for backing up my data?</title> + + <para>Floppy disks are not really a suitable media for + making backups as:</para> + + <itemizedlist> + <listitem> + <para>The media is unreliable, especially over long + periods of time</para> + </listitem> + + <listitem> + <para>Backing up and restoring is very slow</para> + </listitem> + + <listitem> + <para>They have a very limited capacity (the days of + backing up an entire hard disk onto a dozen or so + floppies has long since passed).</para> + </listitem> + </itemizedlist> + + <para>However, if you have no other method of backing up your + data then floppy disks are better than no backup at all.</para> + + <para>If you do have to use floppy disks then ensure that you use + good quality ones. Floppies that have been lying around the + office for a couple of years are a bad choice. Ideally use new + ones from a reputable manufacturer.</para> + + </sect2> + + <sect2 id="floppies-creating"> + <title>So how do I backup my data to floppies?</title> + + <para>The best way to backup to floppy disk is to use + <filename>tar(1)</filename> with the <filename>[-]M</filename> + (multi volume) option, which allows backups to span multiple + floppies.</para> + + <para>To backup all the files in the current directory and + sub-directory use this (as root):</para> + + <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>tar Mcvf /dev/rfd0 *</userinput> + </screen> + + <para>When the first floppy is full <filename>tar(1)</filename> + will prompt you to insert the next volume + (because <filename>tar(1)</filename> is media independent it + refers to volumes. In this context it means floppy disk)</para> + + <screen>Prepare volume #2 for /dev/rfd0 and hit return:</screen> + + <para>This is repeated (with the volume number incrementing) + until all the specified files have been archived.</para> + + </sect2> + + <sect2 id="floppies-compress"> + <title>Can I compress my backups?</title> + + <para>Unfortunately, <filename>tar(1)</filename> will not allow + the <filename>-z</filename> option to be used for multi-volume + archives. You could, of course, <filename>gzip(1)</filename> + all the files, <filename>tar(1)</filename> them to the floppies, + then <filename>gunzip(1)</filename> the files again!</para> + + </sect2> + + <sect2 id="floppies-restoring"> + <title>How do I restore my backups?</title> + + <para>To restore the entire archive use:</para> + <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>tar Mxvf /dev/rfd0</userinput> + </screen> + + <para>To restore only specific files you can either start + with the first floppy and use:</para> + + <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>tar Mxvf /dev/rfd0 filename.. + </userinput></screen> + + <para><filename>tar(1)</filename> will prompt you to insert + subsequent floppies until it finds the required file.</para> + + <para>Alternatively, if you know which floppy the file is on + then you can simply insert that floppy and use the same + command as above. Note that if the first file on the floppy is + a continuation from the previous one then + <filename>tar(1)</filename> will warn you that it cannot + restore it, even if you have not asked it to!</para> + + </sect2> + + </sect1> + </chapter> <!-- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 6 14:55:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48831150C0; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 14:55:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA75802; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 14:54:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@FreeBSD.org) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 14:54:59 -0700 (PDT) From: <phantom@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199909062154.OAA75802@freefall.freebsd.org> To: andy@icc.surw.chel.su, phantom@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13096: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/applications.sgml Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Update doc: doc/ru/FAQ/applications.sgml State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: phantom State-Changed-When: Mon Sep 6 14:53:30 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: This PR is similar to docs/13366 which is already closed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 6 15:15:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0184514EBB; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 15:14:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id BAA20936; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 01:15:46 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id AAA00342; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 00:31:45 +0400 (MSD) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 00:31:44 +0400 From: Alexey Zelkin <phantom@cris.net> To: FreeBSD Documentation Team <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org> Cc: peter@FreeBSD.org Subject: $Date$ at www pages Message-ID: <19990907003144.A262@scorpion.crimea.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, As for me $Date$ tag on web pages was very useful, but with $Date$,$Id$-> $FreeBSD$ change it lost real meaning (just to show last modification time). I sure that it would be better to insert $FreeBSD$ somethere in body of the page (as comment) and revert current $FreeBSD$ tags back to $Date$. -- /* Alexey Zelkin && phantom@cris.net */ /* Tavrical National University && phantom@crimea.edu */ /* http://www.ccssu.crimea.ua/~phantom && phantom@FreeBSD.org */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 6 15:51:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4EB2154F0 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 15:51:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA75149; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 15:51:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Jun Kuriyama <kuriyama@sky.rim.or.jp> Cc: Documentation Team <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: About www/en/security/security.sgml In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 06 Sep 1999 23:52:05 +0900." <14291.54548.4992.72159A@localhost.sky.rim.or.jp> Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 15:51:59 -0700 Message-ID: <75145.936658319@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > When I try to translate this sentence, I cannot make clear whether > mkstemp() should be used or not. Can someone clarify this? Somebody made a mistake (not me, I didn't write this :). Fixed! - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 7 1:27:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.netplex.com.au [202.12.86.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02D7A15D2F for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org>; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 01:27:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71A581CA9; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 16:26:29 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Alexey Zelkin <phantom@cris.net> Cc: FreeBSD Documentation Team <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: $Date$ at www pages In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 07 Sep 1999 00:31:44 +0400." <19990907003144.A262@scorpion.crimea.ua> Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 16:26:29 +0800 From: Peter Wemm <peter@netplex.com.au> Message-Id: <19990907082629.71A581CA9@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Alexey Zelkin wrote: > hi, > > As for me $Date$ tag on web pages was very useful, but with $Date$,$Id$-> > $FreeBSD$ change it lost real meaning (just to show last modification time). > I sure that it would be better to insert $FreeBSD$ somethere in body > of the page (as comment) and revert current $FreeBSD$ tags back to $Date$. $Date$ won't be expanded though (and hasn't been for a while).. Is it possible to post-process the generated .html or something and do something like s/\$FreeBSD: .* .* (.* .*) .* .* \$/Last modified: \1 UTC/ ? So then: $FreeBSD: CVSROOT/modules,v 1.360 1999/09/07 06:05:16 taoka Exp $ would become: Last modified: 1999/09/07 06:05:16 UTC If the web build scripts can do this without too much trouble then that should solve the problem fairly well and give an even better result than: $Date: 1999/09/07 06:05:16 $ Cheers, -Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 7 5:54:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sonet.crimea.ua (OTC-sl3-FLY.CRIS.NET [212.110.136.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 600701557E for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org>; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 05:54:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sonet.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id PAA14122; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:52:07 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id PAA00576; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:12:23 +0400 (MSD) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:12:23 +0400 From: Alexey Zelkin <phantom@cris.net> To: Peter Wemm <peter@netplex.com.au> Cc: FreeBSD Documentation Team <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org> Subject: Re: $Date$ at www pages Message-ID: <19990907151223.A556@scorpion.crimea.ua> References: <19990907003144.A262@scorpion.crimea.ua> <19990907082629.71A581CA9@overcee.netplex.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: <19990907082629.71A581CA9@overcee.netplex.com.au> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Tue, Sep 07, 1999 at 04:26:29PM +0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > > As for me $Date$ tag on web pages was very useful, but with $Date$,$Id$-> > > $FreeBSD$ change it lost real meaning (just to show last modification time). > > I sure that it would be better to insert $FreeBSD$ somethere in body > > of the page (as comment) and revert current $FreeBSD$ tags back to $Date$. > > $Date$ won't be expanded though (and hasn't been for a while).. Is it > possible to post-process the generated .html or something and do something > like s/\$FreeBSD: .* .* (.* .*) .* .* \$/Last modified: \1 UTC/ ? > > So then: > $FreeBSD: CVSROOT/modules,v 1.360 1999/09/07 06:05:16 taoka Exp $ > would become: > Last modified: 1999/09/07 06:05:16 UTC It's good idea, but there're few problems: All web pages now have two $FreeBSD$ tags -- they have $Id$ and $Date$ tags before Id->FreeBSD conversion. It's not a problem to understand which tag was $Date$ in html pages, but problem for some cgi scripts which also needed $Date$. Maybe it would better to allow $Date$ expansion for www/ tree ? > If the web build scripts can do this without too much trouble then that should > solve the problem fairly well and give an even better result than: > $Date: 1999/09/07 06:05:16 $ -- /* Alexey Zelkin && phantom@cris.net */ /* Tavrical National University && phantom@crimea.edu */ /* http://www.ccssu.crimea.ua/~phantom && phantom@FreeBSD.org */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 7 9:51:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from shaft.noc.clara.net (shaft.noc.clara.net [195.8.70.216]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CEB814D31 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:51:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mivens@clara.net) Received: (from mark@localhost) by shaft.noc.clara.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA37787 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 17:49:51 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 17:49:51 +0100 From: Mark Ivens <mivens@clara.net> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Formatting media tutorial? Message-ID: <19990907174950.A37597@clara.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre2i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, The "Formatting Media For Use With FreeBSD 2.2-RELEASE" tutorial which was at http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/diskformat/diskformat.html seems to have got lost and the link from http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/diskformat/ is giving "Document not found". -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Ivens mivens@clara.net The gene pool Systems Administrator could use a ClaraNET UK Ltd 0207 903 3203 little chlorine ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 7 11:54:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1F4E15615 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:54:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from mailrelay.vt.edu (gkar.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.40]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA21219; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:53:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu) by gkar.cc.vt.edu (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.05.24.18.28.p7) with ESMTP id <0FHP00NDVDSV34@gkar.cc.vt.edu>; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:53:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 14:53:26 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin <jobaldwi@vt.edu> Subject: RE: Formatting media tutorial? In-reply-to: <19990907174950.A37597@clara.net> To: Mark Ivens <mivens@clara.net> Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Message-id: <0FHP00NDWDSV34@gkar.cc.vt.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 07-Sep-99 Mark Ivens wrote: > Hello, > > The "Formatting Media For Use With FreeBSD 2.2-RELEASE" tutorial > which > was at http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/diskformat/diskformat.html > seems to have got lost and the link from > http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/diskformat/ is giving "Document not > found". It moved to www.freebsd.org/tutorials/formatting-media/ Thanks for pointing it out, I'll fix it. --- John Baldwin <jobaldwi@vt.edu> -- http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 7 12:12:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ccssu.crimea.ua (mordor.ccssu.crimea.ua [62.244.13.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18EB015648 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:09:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ph@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ccssu.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.0) with UUCP id VAA23446; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 21:56:16 +0300 Received: (from ph@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id VAA08949; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 21:16:45 +0400 (MSD) Message-Id: <199909071716.VAA08949@scorpion.crimea.ua> Subject: Re: Formatting media tutorial? In-Reply-To: <19990907174950.A37597@clara.net> from Mark Ivens at "Sep 7, 99 05:49:51 pm" To: mivens@clara.net (Mark Ivens) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 21:16:45 +0400 (MSD) Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Alexey M. Zelkin" <phantom@sunbay.com> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, > The "Formatting Media For Use With FreeBSD 2.2-RELEASE" tutorial which > was at http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/diskformat/diskformat.html > seems to have got lost and the link from > http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/diskformat/ is giving "Document not > found". This problem born because of great documenation source tree reconstruction. It will be fixed soon. PS: Right now tried to build www/ tree (just cvsuped) and it's also was failed with "en/tutorials -- not found". Seems that www tree still not chanaged according new doc/ state. -- SY, Alexey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 7 12:16:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1CD515608 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:16:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from mailrelay.vt.edu (gkar.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.40]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA25917; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:15:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu) by gkar.cc.vt.edu (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.05.24.18.28.p7) with ESMTP id <0FHP00N0JETV34@gkar.cc.vt.edu>; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:15:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 15:15:37 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin <jobaldwi@vt.edu> Subject: Re: Formatting media tutorial? In-reply-to: <199909071716.VAA08949@scorpion.crimea.ua> To: "Alexey M. Zelkin" <phantom@sunbay.com> Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, mivens@clara.net (Mark Ivens) Message-id: <0FHP00N0KETV34@gkar.cc.vt.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 07-Sep-99 Alexey M. Zelkin wrote: > hi, > >> The "Formatting Media For Use With FreeBSD 2.2-RELEASE" tutorial >> which >> was at http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/diskformat/diskformat.html >> seems to have got lost and the link from >> http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/diskformat/ is giving "Document not >> found". > > This problem born because of great documenation source tree > reconstruction. > It will be fixed soon. > > PS: Right now tried to build www/ tree (just cvsuped) and it's also > was failed with "en/tutorials -- not found". Seems that www tree > still not chanaged according new doc/ state. No, it's all there, and it works. Try www.freebsd.org/tutorials/ to see for sure. Also, read your commit mail, this one is already fixed. :) > -- > > SY, > Alexey --- John Baldwin <jobaldwi@vt.edu> -- http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 7 23: 8:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECCB015AE8; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 23:08:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jim@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id XAA84318; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 23:07:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 23:07:44 -0700 (PDT) From: <jim@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199909080607.XAA84318@freefall.freebsd.org> To: kris@freebsd.org, jim@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13462: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/stable.html refers to 2.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/stable.html refers to 2.2 State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jim State-Changed-When: Tue Sep 7 23:06:46 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Fixed in rev 1.28 of cutting-edge/chapter.sgml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 8 3:25:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B077715A7D; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 03:25:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jim@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id DAA04764; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 03:24:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 03:24:16 -0700 (PDT) From: <jim@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199909081024.DAA04764@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jim@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, jim@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13605: Add content for the empty section on floppy backups in the handbook. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Add content for the empty section on floppy backups in the handbook. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->jim Responsible-Changed-By: jim Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Sep 8 03:23:03 PDT 1999 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll take care of this one. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 8 4:51: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A15156A9 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 04:51:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id EAA14594; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 04:50:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 04:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199909081150.EAA14594@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Jim Mock <jim@blues.ghis.net> Subject: Re: docs/7456 Reply-To: Jim Mock <jim@blues.ghis.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/7456; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Jim Mock <jim@blues.ghis.net> To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Cc: seggers@semyam.dinoco.de, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/7456 Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:45:36 +1000 Can this be closed now? -- - Jim Mock - jim@blues.ghis.net - systems administrator - ghis.NET - - work: http://www.ghis.net/ - personal: http://www.ghis.net/~jim/ - - FreeBSD 'zine: http://www.freebsdzine.org/ - jim@freebsdzine.org - - The FreeBSD Project -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - jim@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 8 12:52:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from esmeralda.xaa.iae.nl (esmeralda.xaa.iae.nl [194.151.75.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D80A215695 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 12:52:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from xaa@xaa.iae.nl) Received: from ariel.xaa.iae.nl (ariel.xaa.iae.nl [194.151.75.10]) by esmeralda.xaa.iae.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24517BA1C for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:51:59 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by ariel.xaa.iae.nl (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 85DDB1F4F; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:51:58 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:51:58 +0200 From: Mark Huizer <xaa@xaa.iae.nl> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: www server Message-ID: <19990908215158.N35690@ariel.xaa.iae.nl> Reply-To: Mark Huizer <xaa@xaa.iae.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org well, since this gets closest to following the hints on the wwwserver, here a few remarks. First a new mailinglist: majordomo@nl.freebsd.org, where there is the nlfug mailinglist trying to setup a Dutch FreeBSD user group. Second: on the mailinglist page (support.html#mailinglists), one is requested to contact when one knows a new list, there a bunch of addresses is given, but for telling about mailinglists you are redirected to support.html#mailinglist Greetings, Mark Huizer maintainer www.nl.freebsd.org (or at least the machine that will take over from the current www.nl.freebsd.org) -- Mark Huizer-xaa@xaa.iae.nl-Mark.Huizer@nl.origin-it.com-xaa@timewasters.nl Suburbia: Where they tear out the trees and then name streets after them To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 8 15:31: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA83214E30 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 15:30:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA22260; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 15:30:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 15:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199909082230.PAA22260@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: docs/7456 Reply-To: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/7456; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org> To: Jim Mock <jim@blues.ghis.net> Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, seggers@semyam.dinoco.de, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/7456 Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 23:12:21 +0100 On Wed, Sep 08, 1999 at 09:45:36PM +1000, Jim Mock wrote: > Can this be closed now? Pass. Does the new version of libdialog that's been imported since the PR fix the problem? It's not what I'd call a critical PR, so we can probably take lack of feedback as "yes, it's fine" (or, alternatively, "it might be fine, but we don't care"). I'd be slightly happier if someone actually stood up and said the problem has gone away though. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 8 17:10: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B5DE15777 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 17:10:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id RAA34079; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 17:10:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 17:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199909090010.RAA34079@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Mark Ovens <mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org> Subject: docs/13207: Update to the FAQ Reply-To: Mark Ovens <mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/13207; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Mark Ovens <mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org> To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: docs/13207: Update to the FAQ Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 01:01:25 +0100 (BST) >Submitter-Id: current-users >Originator: Mark Ovens <mark@ukug.uk.freebsd.org> >Organization: >Confidential: no ] (one line)> >Synopsis: Update to the FAQ >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Category: docs >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386 >Class: change-request >Environment: >Description: New diff for DocBook FAQ >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: *** book.sgml.orig Mon Sep 6 22:16:42 1999 --- book.sgml Thu Sep 9 00:50:00 1999 *************** *** 3471,3476 **** --- 3471,3479 ---- <qandaentry><question> <para>How can I use the NT loader to boot FreeBSD?</para></question><answer> + <para>The procedure is slightly different for 2.2.x and 3.x (with the + 3-stage boot) systems.</para> + <para>The general idea is that you copy the first sector of your native root FreeBSD partition into a file in the DOS/NT partition. Assuming you name that file something like *************** *** 3489,3499 **** </literallayout> </para> ! <para>This procedure assumes that DOS, NT, FreeBSD, or whatever ! have been installed into their respective fdisk partitions on the ! <emphasis remap=bf>same</emphasis> disk. In my case DOS &amp; NT are in the first fdisk ! partition and FreeBSD is in the second. I also installed FreeBSD ! to boot from its native partition, <emphasis remap=bf>not</emphasis> the disk MBR.</para> <para>Mount a DOS-formatted floppy (if you've converted to NTFS) or the FAT partition, under, say, <filename>/mnt</filename>.</para> --- 3492,3503 ---- </literallayout> </para> ! <para>For 2.2.x systems this procedure assumes that DOS, NT, FreeBSD, ! or whatever have been installed into their respective fdisk partitions ! on the <emphasis remap=bf>same</emphasis> disk. In my case DOS &amp; ! NT are in the first fdisk partition and FreeBSD is in the second. I also ! installed FreeBSD to boot from its native partition, ! <emphasis remap=bf>not</emphasis> the disk MBR.</para> <para>Mount a DOS-formatted floppy (if you've converted to NTFS) or the FAT partition, under, say, <filename>/mnt</filename>.</para> *************** *** 3525,3530 **** --- 3529,3543 ---- ``<emphasis remap=tt>fdisk</emphasis>'' command after you reconfigure them to boot from their native partitions.</para> + <para>For 3.x systems the procedure is somewhat simpler.</para> + + <para>If FreeBSD is installed on the <emphasis remap=bf>same</emphasis> + disk as the NT boot partition copy <filename>/boot/boot1</filename> + to <filename>C:\BOOTSECT.BSD</filename> or, if FreeBSD is installed on a + <emphasis remap=bf>different</emphasis> disk, copy + <filename>/boot/boot0</filename> to <filename>C:\BOOTSECT.BSD</filename>. + Then edit the <filename>C:\BOOT.INI</filename> file as described above.</para> + </answer></qandaentry> <qandaentry><question> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 8 17:24:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from cc158233-a.catv1.md.home.com (cc158233-a.catv1.md.home.com [24.3.25.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB0414BEC for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 17:24:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sjr@home.net) Received: (from sjr@localhost) by cc158233-a.catv1.md.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA46785 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:24:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sjr) Message-Id: <199909090024.UAA46785@cc158233-a.catv1.md.home.com> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:24:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stephen J. Roznowski" <sjr@home.net> Subject: Spelling of ASCII in man pages? To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've noticed on several of the man pages that ASCII has various spellings: ASCII, Ascii, ascii. Should these be corrected to ASCII? Thanks, -- Stephen J. Roznowski (sjr@home.net) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 8 17:30:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11E4E1514C for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 17:30:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id RAA35818; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 17:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cc158233-a.catv1.md.home.com (cc158233-a.catv1.md.home.com [24.3.25.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B55F14CE4 for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 17:28:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sjr@home.net) Received: (from sjr@localhost) by cc158233-a.catv1.md.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA46920; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:28:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sjr) Message-Id: <199909090028.UAA46920@cc158233-a.catv1.md.home.com> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:28:44 -0400 (EDT) From: sjr@home.com Reply-To: sjr@home.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/13645: Minor update to swapon man page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13645 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Add mention of vn devices to swapon man page >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Sep 8 17:30:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Stephen J. Roznowski >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: The attached patch add mention of the vnode files for swapping. Additionally, ascii is corrected to ASCII. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- sbin/swapon/swapon.8.orig Wed Sep 8 20:15:08 1999 +++ sbin/swapon/swapon.8 Wed Sep 8 20:22:19 1999 @@ -79,8 +79,12 @@ .Bl -tag -width "/dev/{wd,da}?s?b" -compact .It Pa /dev/{wd,da}?s?b standard paging devices +.It Pa /dev/vn0b +vnode disk paging device .It Pa /etc/fstab -ascii filesystem description table +ASCII filesystem description table +.It Pa /etc/vntab +ASCII vnode file table .El .Sh BUGS There is no way to stop paging and swapping on a device. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 8 18:40:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E030014D15 for <doc@freebsd.org>; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 18:40:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-2-220.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.133.220]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA10904 for <doc@freebsd.org>; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:39:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id VAA62832 for doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:40:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:40:55 -0400 From: Randall Hopper <aa8vb@ipass.net> To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Simplest man page source format? Message-ID: <19990908214055.A62660@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi. I need to write a man page. I've browsed some of the FreeBSD doc pages, and I have a question that I couldn't quite find the definitive answer to. What is the simplest supported source format for writing man pages? Is nroff source format (ala man/man*) the best way to go (hope not), or is there another more-readable and -writable format such as XML (or SGML?) for which there might be -to-nroff-source conversion support. Would appreciate any tips to help stear me in the right direction. Thanks, Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 8 18:48:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73B2714E11 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 18:48:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from berticus@erols.com) Received: from berticus (207-172-75-239.s239.tnt3.man.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.75.239]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA26952 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:47:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000201befa65$48a58300$0301a8c0@berticus.manchee.org> From: "Bert Manchee" <berticus@erols.com> To: <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Socks5 download Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:43:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BEFA43.3CBB1900" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BEFA43.3CBB1900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If the current branch of the ports collection is requiring = socks5-v1.0r9.tar.gz, why is it not available anywhere. it doesn't = exist on your website, although there's a link to it. and on the NEC = site supporting the socks5 server, they only offer socks5-v1.0r10.tar.gz = - revision 10 instead of 9. what am i to do about this??? please help. Bert Manchee ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BEFA43.3CBB1900 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#c0c0c0> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>If the current branch of the ports = collection is=20 requiring socks5-v1.0r9.tar.gz, why is it not available anywhere.&nbsp; = it=20 doesn't exist on your website, although there's a link to it.&nbsp; and = on the=20 NEC site supporting the socks5 server, they only offer = socks5-v1.0r10.tar.gz -=20 revision 10 instead of 9.&nbsp; what am i to do about = this???</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>please help.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Bert = Manchee</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BEFA43.3CBB1900-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 8 19: 5:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554C814D00 for <doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 19:05:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@holly.dyndns.org) Received: from holly.dyndns.org (adsl-216-62-157-60.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) by mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.05.24.18.28.p7) with ESMTP id <0FHR00DM1SG3VB@mta4.rcsntx.swbell.net> for doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:04:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from chris@localhost) by holly.dyndns.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA99277; Wed, 08 Sep 1999 21:04:38 -0500 (CDT envelope-from chris) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 21:04:37 -0500 From: Chris Costello <chris@calldei.com> Subject: Re: Simplest man page source format? In-reply-to: <19990908214055.A62660@ipass.net> To: Randall Hopper <aa8vb@ipass.net> Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chris@calldei.com Message-id: <19990908210437.C98739@holly.calldei.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.6i References: <19990908214055.A62660@ipass.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Sep 08, 1999, Randall Hopper wrote: > Hi. I need to write a man page. I've browsed some of the FreeBSD doc > pages, and I have a question that I couldn't quite find the definitive > answer to. What is the simplest supported source format for writing man > pages? FreeBSD's man pages are written using the nroff "language". -- |Chris Costello <chris@calldei.com> |Press any key to continue or any other key to quit `--------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 8 20: 1:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A12315273 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:01:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id UAA48938; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199909090300.UAA48938@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Jim Mock <jim@blues.ghis.net> Subject: Re: docs/7456 Reply-To: Jim Mock <jim@blues.ghis.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/7456; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Jim Mock <jim@blues.ghis.net> To: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org, seggers@semyam.dinoco.de Subject: Re: docs/7456 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 12:51:42 +1000 On Wed, 08 Sep 1999 at 23:12:21 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Wed, Sep 08, 1999 at 09:45:36PM +1000, Jim Mock wrote: > > Can this be closed now? > > Pass. Does the new version of libdialog that's been imported since > the PR fix the problem? > > It's not what I'd call a critical PR, so we can probably take lack > of feedback as "yes, it's fine" (or, alternatively, "it might be > fine, but we don't care"). > > I'd be slightly happier if someone actually stood up and said the > problem has gone away though. Agreed. I'll hold off on closing it in hopes Stefan lets us know one way or the other. Stefan? -- - Jim Mock - jim@blues.ghis.net - systems administrator - ghis.NET - - work: http://www.ghis.net/ - personal: http://www.ghis.net/~jim/ - - FreeBSD 'zine: http://www.freebsdzine.org/ - jim@freebsdzine.org - - The FreeBSD Project -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - jim@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 8 23:44:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8291514C1B for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 23:44:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.196.144]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA5CE2; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:44:11 +0200 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA66910; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:19:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:19:55 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl> To: "Stephen J. Roznowski" <sjr@home.net> Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Spelling of ASCII in man pages? Message-ID: <19990909081955.Q64229@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <199909090024.UAA46785@cc158233-a.catv1.md.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: <199909090024.UAA46785@cc158233-a.catv1.md.home.com> Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * Stephen J. Roznowski (sjr@home.net) [990909 07:14]: >I've noticed on several of the man pages that ASCII has various >spellings: ASCII, Ascii, ascii. > >Should these be corrected to ASCII? Given how anal we are about FreeBSD.org we should prolly be as anal about this. The best documentation is consistent. This goes double for contractions. Contractions in documentation are a BIG no-no. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project <http://home.wxs.nl/~asmodai> Network/Security Specialist BSD: Technical excellence at its best If you're fighting to live, It's ok to die! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 8 23:44:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5641315126 for <doc@freebsd.org>; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 23:44:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.196.144]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAB5CE2; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:44:12 +0200 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA66923; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:23:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:23:31 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com> Cc: John Baldwin <jobaldwi@vt.edu>, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: explosion in FAQ this morning.. Message-ID: <19990909082331.R64229@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <0FHN0074AD8VPA@gkar.cc.vt.edu> <72267.936652199@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: <72267.936652199@localhost> Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * Jordan K. Hubbard (jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) [990906 23:56]: >Again, this is a make release. If there's a /usr/doc/FAQ there, it's >because the `cvs co doc' checked one out. :) You are using -P with co I hope =) Just verified my box which always does a checkout with -P. The directory exists and only has a CVS directory in it. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project <http://home.wxs.nl/~asmodai> Network/Security Specialist BSD: Technical excellence at its best Light-in-Darkness, lift me up from here... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 8 23:44:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3877E157FD; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 23:44:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.196.144]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAC5CE2; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:44:12 +0200 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA66906; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:18:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:18:20 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl> To: Jim Mock <jim@blues.ghis.net> Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Gnats <freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: docs/7456 Message-ID: <19990909081820.P64229@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <199909090300.UAA48938@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: <199909090300.UAA48938@freefall.freebsd.org> Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * Jim Mock (jim@blues.ghis.net) [990909 07:15]: > On Wed, 08 Sep 1999 at 23:12:21 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 08, 1999 at 09:45:36PM +1000, Jim Mock wrote: > > > Can this be closed now? > > > > Pass. Does the new version of libdialog that's been imported since > > the PR fix the problem? > > > > I'd be slightly happier if someone actually stood up and said the > > problem has gone away though. *stands up* "It's still there." "Fix at 21:00 my local time." > Agreed. I'll hold off on closing it in hopes Stefan lets us know one > way or the other. Stefan? No need for Stefan to be contacted. I just verified, it's still bogus. I'll fix it tonight, unless chris beats me to it =). -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project <http://home.wxs.nl/~asmodai> Network/Security Specialist BSD: Technical excellence at its best Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 8 23:50:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B00515126 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 23:50:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id XAA72230; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 23:50:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 23:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199909090650.XAA72230@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl> Subject: Re: docs/7456 Reply-To: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/7456; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl> To: Jim Mock <jim@blues.ghis.net> Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Gnats <freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: docs/7456 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:18:20 +0200 * Jim Mock (jim@blues.ghis.net) [990909 07:15]: > On Wed, 08 Sep 1999 at 23:12:21 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 08, 1999 at 09:45:36PM +1000, Jim Mock wrote: > > > Can this be closed now? > > > > Pass. Does the new version of libdialog that's been imported since > > the PR fix the problem? > > > > I'd be slightly happier if someone actually stood up and said the > > problem has gone away though. *stands up* "It's still there." "Fix at 21:00 my local time." > Agreed. I'll hold off on closing it in hopes Stefan lets us know one > way or the other. Stefan? No need for Stefan to be contacted. I just verified, it's still bogus. I'll fix it tonight, unless chris beats me to it =). -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project <http://home.wxs.nl/~asmodai> Network/Security Specialist BSD: Technical excellence at its best Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 9 0:18:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ccssu.crimea.ua (mordor.ccssu.crimea.ua [62.244.13.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D27841506E for <doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 00:16:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phantom@scorpion.crimea.ua) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ccssu.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.0) with UUCP id JAA15234; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 09:56:53 +0300 Received: (from phantom@localhost) by scorpion.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.5+ssl+keepalive) id JAA00667; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 09:16:49 +0400 (MSD) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 09:16:49 +0400 From: Alexey Zelkin <phantom@cris.net> To: Randall Hopper <aa8vb@ipass.net> Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Simplest man page source format? Message-ID: <19990909091649.A566@scorpion.crimea.ua> References: <19990908214055.A62660@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: <19990908214055.A62660@ipass.net> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, On Wed, Sep 08, 1999 at 09:40:55PM -0400, Randall Hopper wrote: > Hi. I need to write a man page. I've browsed some of the FreeBSD doc > pages, and I have a question that I couldn't quite find the definitive > answer to. What is the simplest supported source format for writing man > pages? Almost all FreeBSD manpages written with nroff's -mdoc macros package. For general information take a look on mdoc(7) and mdoc.samples(7). mdoc(7) is more general description of -mdoc macro package, mdoc.samples(7) is "examples with descriptions". Examples of manpages for few sections present in /usr/share/examples/mdoc. There are few files like example.1 (example of man page for 1st section, example.2 - 2nd section, etc) located in this directory. And latest point -- /usr/share/misc/mdoc.template. You can write you man page using this template. > Is nroff source format (ala man/man*) the best way to go (hope not), or is > there another more-readable and -writable format such as XML (or SGML?) for > which there might be -to-nroff-source conversion support. I know that there much of nroff->sgml conversion tools, but I did not see sgml->nroff one. > Would appreciate any tips to help stear me in the right direction. Enjoy. -- /* Alexey Zelkin && phantom@cris.net */ /* Tavric National University && phantom@crimea.edu */ /* http://www.ccssu.crimea.ua/~phantom && phantom@FreeBSD.org */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 9 3:16:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mpp.pro-ns.net (pppdsle45.mpls.uswest.net [216.160.23.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B363815065 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 03:16:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@mpp.pro-ns.net) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by mpp.pro-ns.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA04310; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 05:16:01 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mpp) From: Mike Pritchard <mpp@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199909091016.FAA04310@mpp.pro-ns.net> Subject: Re: Spelling of ASCII in man pages? In-Reply-To: <199909090024.UAA46785@cc158233-a.catv1.md.home.com> from "Stephen J. Roznowski" at "Sep 8, 1999 08:24:08 pm" To: sjr@home.net (Stephen J. Roznowski) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 05:16:01 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I've noticed on several of the man pages that ASCII has various > spellings: ASCII, Ascii, ascii. > > Should these be corrected to ASCII? Yes. ASCII is an acronym, and should always be all caps. -Mike -- Mike Pritchard mpp@FreeBSD.org or mpp@mpp.pro-ns.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 9 3:24:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mpp.pro-ns.net (pppdsle45.mpls.uswest.net [216.160.23.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ADF91508B for <doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 03:24:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@mpp.pro-ns.net) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by mpp.pro-ns.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA04335; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 05:23:08 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mpp) From: Mike Pritchard <mpp@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199909091023.FAA04335@mpp.pro-ns.net> Subject: Re: Simplest man page source format? In-Reply-To: <19990908214055.A62660@ipass.net> from Randall Hopper at "Sep 8, 1999 09:40:55 pm" To: aa8vb@ipass.net (Randall Hopper) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 05:23:08 -0500 (CDT) Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hi. I need to write a man page. I've browsed some of the FreeBSD doc > pages, and I have a question that I couldn't quite find the definitive > answer to. What is the simplest supported source format for writing man > pages? > > Is nroff source format (ala man/man*) the best way to go (hope not), or is > there another more-readable and -writable format such as XML (or SGML?) for > which there might be -to-nroff-source conversion support. > > Would appreciate any tips to help stear me in the right direction. All new man pages should be written in with the *roff "mdoc" man package. See "man mdoc" and "mdoc.samples" for a description of the macro package. Also look in /usr/share/examples/mdoc/* for some template man pages for some of the most common man page sections. One requirement is that you shouldn't use any of the *roff directives. You should be able to all of your formatting with the existing mdoc macros. Another way to ease into writing man pages, is to take an existing man page that looks somewhat like what you want your new man page to look like. Then modify that man page to taste. That is the idea behind the templates. -Mike -- Mike Pritchard mpp@FreeBSD.org or mpp@mpp.pro-ns.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 9 3:44:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mpp.pro-ns.net (pppdsle45.mpls.uswest.net [216.160.23.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB9715B6C for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 03:44:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpp@mpp.pro-ns.net) Received: (from mpp@localhost) by mpp.pro-ns.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA04400; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 05:43:39 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mpp) From: Mike Pritchard <mpp@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199909091043.FAA04400@mpp.pro-ns.net> Subject: Re: Spelling of ASCII in man pages? In-Reply-To: <19990909081955.Q64229@daemon.ninth-circle.org> from Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai at "Sep 9, 1999 08:19:55 am" To: asmodai@wxs.nl (Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 05:43:39 -0500 (CDT) Cc: sjr@home.net (Stephen J. Roznowski), freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > * Stephen J. Roznowski (sjr@home.net) [990909 07:14]: > >I've noticed on several of the man pages that ASCII has various > >spellings: ASCII, Ascii, ascii. > > > >Should these be corrected to ASCII? > > Given how anal we are about FreeBSD.org we should prolly be as anal > about this. > > The best documentation is consistent. This goes double for contractions. > Contractions in documentation are a BIG no-no. Yes and no on the contraction point. I was the first person to sweep through the handbook/FAQ and kill all of the contractions. This was done to make it easier for the foreign language translators. At the time a couple of people pointed out that using contractions in technical documents isn't necessarily bad, since it help readability and makes the tone of the document a little less formal. I have a couple of tech writers guides that don't encourage their use, but they also don't discourage their use (and they do mention them, so they just didn't ignore the subject). As for man pages, I leave the contractions alone -- unless I happen to be re-wording that particular sentence/line. This is especially true of 4.4BSD-lite derived documents, since it makes it easier for us to import changes from the other BSDs. So the trade-off is that our documents might be little more stiff, but we are making it easier for the translators. That was the whole theory behind it. Then again, we changed our minds about freebsd.org. We used to always specify FreeBSD.ORG, and now we want FreeBSD.org. Doesn't matter either way, just as long as we are consistent. -Mike -- Mike Pritchard mpp@FreeBSD.org or mpp@mpp.pro-ns.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 9 4:11: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 364B8153A6 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 04:10:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id EAA03671; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 04:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.euroweb.hu (mail.euroweb.hu [193.226.220.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF1A8159A7 for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 04:08:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hu006co@mail.euroweb.hu) Received: (from hu006co@localhost) by mail.euroweb.hu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA08949 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:08:04 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from zgabor@localhost) by CoDe.hu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00752; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:46:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from zgabor) Message-Id: <199909090846.KAA00752@CoDe.hu> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:46:05 +0200 (CEST) From: zgabor@CoDe.hu Reply-To: zgabor@CoDe.hu To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/13657: mklocale(1) man errors Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13657 >Category: docs >Synopsis: mklocale(1) man errors >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Sep 9 04:10:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Zahemszky Gabor >Release: FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386 >Organization: CoDe Ltd. HUNGARY >Environment: 3.2-R on Intel >Description: The mklocale(1) manual page has some minor problems: a) missing the documentation of the -d (debug) option b) missing the documentation of the -o outputfile option c) missing the documentation of the optional sourcefile parameter b+c ==> we can use the documented ``mklocale < source > dest'', and the colldef compatible ``mklocale -o dest source'' format. d) in the SEE ALSO section, there is a wrong reference, mklocale(1) man page refers to the mklocale(1) man page :-) e) in the SEE ALSO section, the reference to the companion colldef(1) man is missing (by the way, in colldef(1), there _is_ the reference to mklocale(1) ) >How-To-Repeat: man 1 mklocale >Fix: Well it isn't much work for somebody who has read the mdoc manual page - not me :-( ZGabor at CoDe dot HU PS: b, c, d, and e (and maybe a) was send-pr'd about two years ago. Sorry, I haven't got the reference number at hand >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 9 4:11:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1EC6154F8 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 04:10:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id EAA03680; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 04:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.euroweb.hu (mail.euroweb.hu [193.226.220.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D874D15C05 for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 04:08:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hu006co@mail.euroweb.hu) Received: (from hu006co@localhost) by mail.euroweb.hu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA08952 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 13:08:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from zgabor@localhost) by CoDe.hu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00943; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:55:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from zgabor) Message-Id: <199909090855.KAA00943@CoDe.hu> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:55:03 +0200 (CEST) From: zgabor@CoDe.hu Reply-To: zgabor@CoDe.hu To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/13658: bugs in cat*(3) man pages Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13658 >Category: docs >Synopsis: bugs in cat*(3) man pages >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Sep 9 04:10:01 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Zahemszky Gabor >Release: FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386 >Organization: CoDe Ltd. HUNGARY >Environment: 3.2-R on Intel >Description: a) On the catopen(3), catgets(3) and catclose(3) manual pages, the reference to the companion gencat(1) program is missing. b) On the catgets(3) and catclose(3) manual pages, the reference to the setlocale(3) function is missing. It _is_ on catopen(3). >How-To-Repeat: man 3 catopen catgets catclose >Fix: Hmm. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 9 11:44:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B03815205 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG>; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:44:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.197.25]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA69DA; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 20:44:06 +0200 Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by daemon.ninth-circle.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA69286; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 20:35:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from asmodai) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 20:35:51 +0200 From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl> To: Bert Manchee <berticus@erols.com> Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Socks5 download Message-ID: <19990909203551.L68344@daemon.ninth-circle.org> References: <000201befa65$48a58300$0301a8c0@berticus.manchee.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: <000201befa65$48a58300$0301a8c0@berticus.manchee.org> Organisation: Ninth-Circle Enterprises Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * Bert Manchee (berticus@erols.com) [990909 07:15]: >If the current branch of the ports collection is requiring socks5-v1.0r9.tar.gz, why is it not available anywhere. it doesn't exist on your website, although there's a link to it. and on the NEC site supporting the socks5 server, they only offer socks5-v1.0r10.tar.gz - revision 10 instead of 9. what am i to do about this??? Read how to make a port in the handbook and submit patches to upgrade our ports? If that fails, contact the maintainer and politely let him or her know about the new version and the difficulties into acquiring the old version. The Maintainer is specified in the Makefile HTH, HAND. -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl The BSD Programmer's Documentation Project <http://home.wxs.nl/~asmodai> Network/Security Specialist BSD: Technical excellence at its best A place for everything, and everything in its place. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 9 17:32:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB5A1548A for <doc@freebsd.org>; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 17:32:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-2-19.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.133.19]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA06056 for <doc@freebsd.org>; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 20:32:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id UAA02533 for doc@freebsd.org; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 20:33:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 20:33:31 -0400 From: Randall Hopper <aa8vb@ipass.net> To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Simplest man page source format? Message-ID: <19990909203331.A2458@ipass.net> References: <19990908214055.A62660@ipass.net> <199909091023.FAA04335@mpp.pro-ns.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <199909091023.FAA04335@mpp.pro-ns.net>; from Mike Pritchard on Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 05:23:08AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks for the responses. I'll explore the nroff route. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 10 3:58:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48EEF14BC7; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 03:58:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from jim@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id DAA96175; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 03:58:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 03:58:05 -0700 (PDT) From: <jim@FreeBSD.org> Message-Id: <199909101058.DAA96175@freefall.freebsd.org> To: nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk, jim@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/13088: Handbook lists support for Adaptec 2930, which doesn't work Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Handbook lists support for Adaptec 2930, which doesn't work State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: jim State-Changed-When: Fri Sep 10 03:55:03 PDT 1999 State-Changed-Why: Closed with permission of originator (Tyson).. he was able to get the card working. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 10 8:10:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58714159E1 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:10:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id IAA69854; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from puh.swox.se (puh.swox.se [212.247.3.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C441E151ED for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:06:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tege@swox.se) Received: by puh.swox.se (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F2163169B8; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 17:06:06 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <19990910150606.F2163169B8@puh.swox.se> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 17:06:06 +0200 (CEST) From: tege@swox.se Reply-To: tege@swox.se To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: tege@swox.se X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/13682: How to connect multiple "local printers" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13682 >Category: docs >Synopsis: How to connect multiple "local printers" >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Fri Sep 10 08:10:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Torbjorn Granlund >Release: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386 >Organization: Swox AB >Environment: >Description: We had lots of problems handling two printers from the same FreeBSD host. Both printers need input filers (printcap's if=... feature). The output from such a filter is respooled to the default printer `lp'. The documentation, man pages or FreeBSD handbook, fails to mention any way to resolv this. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Please mention that PRINTER=foo should almost always be used in filters to control respooling. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 10 11:37:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from puh.swox.se (puh.swox.se [212.247.3.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1829C14C3D; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 11:37:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tege@swox.se) Received: by puh.swox.se (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A6A04169E8; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 20:37:40 +0200 (CEST) To: gnats-admin@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/13682: How to connect multiple "local printers" References: <199909101510.IAA69850@freefall.freebsd.org> From: Torbjorn Granlund <tege@swox.com> Date: 10 Sep 1999 20:37:40 +0200 In-Reply-To: gnats-admin@FreeBSD.org's message of "Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:10:01 -0700 (PDT)" Message-ID: <864sh21ukr.fsf@puh.swox.se> Lines: 7 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070095 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.95) Emacs/20.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Please ignore and close this pr. The printing dokumentation badly needs a rewrite, but my change request was very confused... -- Torbjörn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 10 13:22:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from silcon.silcon.com (SilCon.SilCon.com [206.99.109.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48D0D14E20 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org>; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 13:22:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bbrunak@silcon.com) Received: from default (ts1-25.silcon.com [206.99.109.25]) by silcon.silcon.com (8.9.1/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA05449 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org>; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 13:22:33 -0700 Message-ID: <37D9686C.FB7@silcon.com> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 13:22:04 -0700 From: BOLEK BRUNAK <bbrunak@silcon.com> Reply-To: bbrunak@silcon.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-SC (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: FlexMan NETWORKS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm wondering what FreeBSD could do for our FLEXIBLE MANUFACTURING NETWORKS FOR DEVELOPING MARKETS <http://www.flexman.com> are linking manufacturers in the United States and other advanced countries with manufacturers in developing nations to vastly increase their productions and the demand for their products in rapidly changing and explosively growing emerging markets. 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Society of Manufacturing Engineers SME/CASA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 10 16:32:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp13.bellglobal.com (smtp13.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A38D14DDD; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:32:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vanderh@ecf.toronto.edu) Received: from localhost.nowhere (ppp1297.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.225.145]) by smtp13.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA06289; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 19:33:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by localhost.nowhere (8.9.3/8.9.1) id TAA88991; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 19:26:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tim) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 19:26:32 -0400 From: Tim Vanderhoek <vanderh@ecf.utoronto.ca> To: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org> Cc: David Stein <dstein@mediaone.net>, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, grog@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestion - List IRC resources Message-ID: <19990910192632.D42037@mad> References: <000801bef639$4be944a0$6a3efea9@david> <19990904234744.A5172@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <19990905215727.A70327@mad> <19990906210332.A49163@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <19990906210332.A49163@kilt.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Mon, Sep 06, 1999 at 09:03:32PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Sep 06, 1999 at 09:03:32PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > > Internet Relay Chat [...] > The only problem I have with this is putting it on a page that's labelled > 'Support'. Yes, I have that same problem. :) -- This is my .signature which gets appended to the end of my messages. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 10 22:11: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D170151CB for <doc@freebsd.org>; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 22:11:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA17927 for <doc@freebsd.org>; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 22:11:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: build failure in russian books. Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 22:11:07 -0700 Message-ID: <17923.937026667@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/faq/book.sgml:1447:20:E: end tag for element "LIK" which is not open /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/faq/book.sgml:1448:73:E: end tag for "LINK" omitted, but OMITTAG NO was specified To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 10 23:56:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A7A015CFE for <doc@freebsd.org>; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 23:56:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from mailrelay.vt.edu (gkar.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.40]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA04328; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 02:56:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu) by gkar.cc.vt.edu (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.05.24.18.28.p7) with ESMTP id <0FHV00E96VAK1K@gkar.cc.vt.edu>; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 02:56:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 02:56:51 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin <jobaldwi@vt.edu> Subject: RE: build failure in russian books. In-reply-to: <17923.937026667@localhost> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com> Cc: doc@freebsd.org Message-id: <0FHV00E97VAK1K@gkar.cc.vt.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 11-Sep-99 Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/faq/book.sgml:1447:20: > E: end tag > for element "LIK" which is not open > /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/faq/book.sgml:1448:73: > E: end tag > for "LINK" omitted, but OMITTAG NO was specified Fixed in revision 1.4 of doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/faq/book.sgml. --- John Baldwin <jobaldwi@vt.edu> -- http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 11 0:15:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 423B214BD6 for <doc@freebsd.org>; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 00:15:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from mailrelay.vt.edu (gkar.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.40]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA04951; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 03:15:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu) by gkar.cc.vt.edu (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.05.24.18.28.p7) with ESMTP id <0FHV00EQ9W5T1N@gkar.cc.vt.edu>; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 03:15:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 03:15:35 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin <jobaldwi@vt.edu> Subject: RE: build failure in russian books. In-reply-to: <0FHV00E97VAK1K@gkar.cc.vt.edu> To: doc@freebsd.org Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com> Message-id: <0FHV00EQAW5T1N@gkar.cc.vt.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 11-Sep-99 John Baldwin wrote: > > On 11-Sep-99 Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >> /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/faq/book.sgml:1447:20 >> : >> E: end tag >> for element "LIK" which is not open >> /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/faq/book.sgml:1448:73 >> : >> E: end tag >> for "LINK" omitted, but OMITTAG NO was specified > > Fixed in revision 1.4 of doc/ru_RU.KOI8-R/books/faq/book.sgml. I committed another fix in revision 1.5 that was breaking the build. A </para> tag after the end of an </itemizedlist> was missing. The missing tag was present in the English version. The Russian FAQ now builds ok, but it spits out a lot of errors (warnings?) about not recognizing the <question> and <answer> tags. Ring any bells, Nik or anyone else? --- John Baldwin <jobaldwi@vt.edu> -- http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 11 4:14:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A123814DDD for <doc@freebsd.org>; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 04:14:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA63319; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 11:18:03 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 11:18:02 +0100 From: Nik Clayton <nik@freebsd.org> To: John Baldwin <jobaldwi@vt.edu> Cc: doc@freebsd.org, "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com> Subject: Re: build failure in russian books. Message-ID: <19990911111802.A59351@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <0FHV00E97VAK1K@gkar.cc.vt.edu> <0FHV00EQAW5T1N@gkar.cc.vt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <0FHV00EQAW5T1N@gkar.cc.vt.edu>; from John Baldwin on Sat, Sep 11, 1999 at 03:15:35AM -0400 Organization: FreeBSD Project <URL:http://www.freebsd.org/> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ATTENTION: Translation teams. What follows is probably a fairly good explanation of how you extend the stylesheets to add additional support for your language. I hope it's useful. On Sat, Sep 11, 1999 at 03:15:35AM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > I committed another fix in revision 1.5 that was breaking the build. > A </para> tag after the end of an </itemizedlist> was missing. The > missing tag was present in the English version. The Russian FAQ now > builds ok, but it spits out a lot of errors (warnings?) about not > recognizing the <question> and <answer> tags. Ring any bells, Nik or > anyone else? Yeah. It's all to do with the way the stylesheets handle l10n and i18n (and if anyone can explain the precise difference between those two terms, I'd be obliged (anyone that says "Uh, three letters" will be shot)). Norm's DocBook stylesheets are incredibly configurable. I mean really, outstandingly, hideously configurable. All the 'boiler plate' text that they spit out (for example, prefixing questions with "Q:" is changeable. The snag with this is that if the stylesheets don't support a language out of the box, or only support a subset of DocBook out of the box, then you're going to have to deal with it yourself. For example, the Russian, Spanish, and (soon to be imported) French FAQs all print something like /usr/local/bin/jade:/local/1/home.nik/FreeBSD-CVS/doc/es_ES.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml:7835:0:E: Nombre de elemento no esperado: QUESTION when you try and build them. This is because the stylesheets have encountered the <Question> element, and aren't exactly sure how to deal with it. Of course, the error message will be in the appropriate language. For these examples, assume $ROOT = /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular Take a look in $ROOT/html, and look at the dbl1??.dsl files. These are the DSSSL code for the different language support. '??' is the language code. Note that Norm's sheets have the problem we just fixed -- for some languages a two letter language code isn't sufficient, you need to know the encoding as well. Look at $ROOT/html/dbl1en.dsl. A couple of things are of interest in this file. First, right at the top it pulls in ../common/dbl1en.ent, which are entities for English text common to the HTML and Print stylesheets. This is a big clue that that file should be looked at too. Also, it pulls in ../common/dbl1en.dsl, which is DSSSL code that the HTML and Print stylesheets share. Still in $ROOT/html/dbl1en.dsl, you see it just defines some DSSSL variables and assigns them some literal text. If you ever wanted to override these definitions you can just copy the code out of this .dsl file, and put it in freebsd.dsl (in the doc/share/sgml), and then change it as necessary. [ I should stress at this point that that's *exactly* how freebsd.dsl was created. I know very little DSSSL, and Scheme gives me a headache -- I just cut-n-paste until it works :-) ] $ROOT/html/dbl1en.dsl is quite small, so it's worth looking at the .ent and .dsl file in $ROOT/common, and seeing what they do. $ROOT/common/dbl1en.dsl is a little more involved, but it is understandable if you take it in chunks. Scroll down until you see lines that look like (define en-abstract-name "&Abstract;") (define en-answer-name "&Answer;") (define en-appendix-name "&Appendix;") ... This is assigning the value of some entities (which are defined in $ROOT/common/dbl1en.ent) to some variables. If you search for the string "question" in this file, you see it's used in a couple of places. 1. In the function gentext-en-element-name. As far as I can tell, this takes an element name and converts it to its local language equivalent. Hence lines like ((equal? name (normalize "question")) en-question-name) which use the en-question-name variable defined elsewhere. 2. In the code (define en-question-label-title-sep " ") This is the separator string between a question's label ("Q:", say) and the title of that question. This is then used (in the same way as in (1) above) in the function gentext-en-label-title-sep. OK. So now take a look at dbl1en.ent. You'll see a Question entity defined to "Q:" (you'll also see similar things for the Answer entity as well). OK, so that's the English stylesheets. What about (for example) the Spanish?. Well, a "grep -i question $ROOT/html/dbl1es.dsl" doesn't show anything, and the same goes for $ROOT/common/dbl1es.dsl and $ROOT/common/dbl1es.ent. From this we can conclude that (at least in v1.44 of the stylesheets, which is what I'm using) that there's no support for FAQs in the Spanish stylesheets. To add in this support, you need to edit two files, $ROOT/common/dbl1es.ent and $ROOT/common/dbl1es.dsl. To $ROOT/common/dbl1es.ent you can probably just add the two lines <!ENTITY Answer "A:"> <!ENTITY Question "Q:"> and be done with it (unless Q/A is represented differently in Spanish). $ROOT/common/dbl1es.dsl is a little more involved. You will need at least (define es-answer-name "&Answer") (define es-question-name "&Question") (define es-answer-label-title-sep " ") (define es-question-label-title-sep " ") and edit the gentext-es-element-name and gentext-es-label-title-sep functions to use these new variables. When you've done that, send patches to Norm Walsh, so that he can add them to the next release of the stylesheets, and send a copy of them to myself or Jun Kuriyama -- Jun maintains the textproc/dsssl-docbook-modular port and we should add them there until they're obsoleted after Norm pulls them in to the base distribution. Make sense? N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 11 12:43:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from inet16.us.oracle.com (inet16.us.oracle.com [209.246.15.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B41B15467 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org>; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 12:43:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spaolini@us.oracle.com) Received: from usmail04 (usmail04.us.oracle.com [144.25.88.96]) by inet16.us.oracle.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA29368 for <freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org>; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 12:43:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from us.oracle.com by usmail04 with ESMTP (SMI-8.6/37.9) id MAA27771; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 12:43:21 -0700 Message-ID: <37DAB0E0.D267E1BE@us.oracle.com> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 15:43:28 -0400 From: Susan E Paolini <spaolini@us.oracle.com> Organization: Oracle Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: subscribe Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------A21E9FB47FB2905DA6D5081F" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------A21E9FB47FB2905DA6D5081F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please subscribe me to the list. 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SPaolini@us.oracle.com --------------A21E9FB47FB2905DA6D5081F Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="spaolini.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Susan E Paolini Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="spaolini.vcf" begin:vcard n:Paolini;Susan tel;pager:800-553-4921 tel;cell:917-541-3624 tel;fax:718-402-6595 tel;home:718-356-2232 tel;work:212-813-5116 x-mozilla-html:TRUE org:Oracle Corp.;Data Warehousing Group version:2.1 email;internet:spaolini@us.oracle.com title:Senior Principal Consultant adr;quoted-printable:;;520 Madison Avenue=0D=0A30th Floor;New York City;NY;10022;USA x-mozilla-cpt:;26576 fn:Susan Paolini end:vcard --------------A21E9FB47FB2905DA6D5081F-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 11 15: 3: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sep.hamburg.com (sep.hamburg.com [194.64.112.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3311E14A14 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 15:02:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hmo@sep.hamburg.com) Received: (from hmo@localhost) by sep.hamburg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/hmo05jan98) id AAA05385; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 00:02:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from hmo) Message-Id: <199909112202.AAA05385@sep.hamburg.com> Subject: 12.4.3.2.3. Support for Cheap Multi-UART Cards To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 00:02:53 +0200 (CEST) Cc: j@ida.interface-business.de From: hmo@sep.hamburg.com (Helge Oldach) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Folks, here is a chapter for The Handbook concerning cheap multi-UART cards. Hope the chapter numbering is still right, please change ad lib. 12.4.3.2.3. Support for Cheap Multi-UART Cards Ever wondered about FreeBSD support for your 20$ multi-I/O card with two (ore more) COM ports, sharing IRQs? Here's how: Usually the only option to support these kind of boards is to use a distinct IRQ for each port. For example, if your CPU board has an on-board COM1 port (aka sio0 - I/O address 0x3F8 and IRQ 4) and you have an extension board with two UARTs, you'll commonly need to configure them as COM2 (aka sio1 - I/O address 0x2F8 and IRQ 3), and the third port (aka sio2) as I/O 0x3E8 and IRQ 5. Obviously this is a waste of IRQ ressources, as it should be basically possible to run both extension board ports using a single IRQ with the COM_MULTIPORT configuration described in the previous sections. Such cheap I/O boards commonly have a 4 by 3 jumper matrix for the COM ports, similar to the following: o o o * Port A | o * o * Port B | o * o o IRQ 2 3 4 5 Shown here is port A wired for IRQ 5 and port B wired for IRQ 3. The IRQ columns on your specific board may vary - other boards may supply jumpers for IRQs 3, 4, 5, and 7 instead. One could conclude that wiring both ports for IRQ 3 using a handcrafted wire-made jumper covering all three connection points in the IRQ 3 column would solve the issue, but nope: You cannot duplicate IRQ 3 because the output drivers of each UART are wired in a "totem pole" fashion, so if one of the UARTs drives IRQ 3, the output signal won't be what you would expect. Depending on the implementation of the extension board or your motherboard, the IRQ 3 line will continuously stay up, or always stay low. Solution: You need to decouple the IRQ drivers for the two UARTs, so that the IRQ line of the board only goes up if (and only if) one of the UARTs asserts a IRQ, and stays low otherwise. The solution was proposed by Jörg Wunsch <j@ida.interface-business.de>: To solder up a wired-or consisting of two diodes (Germanium or Schottky-types strongly preferred) and a 1 kOhm resistor. Here's the schematic, starting from the 4 by 3 jumper field above: Diode +---------->|-------+ / | o * o o | 1 kOhm Port A +----|######|-------+ o * o o | | Port B `-------------------+ ==+== o * o o | Ground \ | +--------->|-------+ IRQ 2 3 4 5 Diode The cathodes of the diodes are connected to a common point, together with a 1 kOhm pull-down resistor. It is essential to connect the resistor to ground to avoid floating of the IRQ line on the bus. Now we're ready to configure a kernel. Staying with this example, we would configure: # standard on-board COM1 port device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty flags 0x10 # patched-up multi-I/O extension board options COM_MULTIPORT device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty flags 0x205 device sio2 at isa? port "IO_COM3" tty flags 0x205 irq 3 Note that the "flags" setting for sio1 and sio2 is truely essential; refer to sio(4) for details. (Generally, the "2" in the "flags" attribute refers to "sio2" which holds the IRQ, and you surely want a "5" low nibble.) With kernel verbose mode turned on this should yield something similar to this: sio0: irq maps: 0x1 0x11 0x1 0x1 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1: irq maps: 0x1 0x9 0x1 0x1 sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff flags 0x205 on isa sio1: type 16550A (multiport) sio2: irq maps: 0x1 0x9 0x1 0x1 sio2 at 0x3e8-0x3ef irq 3 flags 0x205 on isa sio2: type 16550A (multiport master) Though /sys/i386/isa/sio.c is somewhat cryptic with its use of the "irq maps" array above, the basic idea is that you observe 0x1 in the first, third, and fourth place. This means that the corresponding IRQ was set upon output and cleared after, which is just what we would expect. If your kernel doesn't display this behaviour, most likely there is something wrong with your wiring. Regards, Helge To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 11 18:50: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B463814DE6 for <freebsd-doc@freebsd.org>; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 18:50:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA53979; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 18:50:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cc158233-a.catv1.md.home.com (cc158233-a.catv1.md.home.com [24.3.25.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D929014D0E for <FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org>; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 18:46:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sjr@home.net) Received: (from sjr@localhost) by cc158233-a.catv1.md.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA12669; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 21:46:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from sjr) Message-Id: <199909120146.VAA12669@cc158233-a.catv1.md.home.com> Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 21:46:03 -0400 (EDT) From: sjr@home.com Reply-To: sjr@home.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/13702: Manpage corrections to ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 13702 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Manpage corrections to ASCII >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Sep 11 18:50:00 PDT 1999 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Stephen J. Roznowski >Release: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: The general consensus is that the manual pages should be consistent in their spelling of ASCII. The attached patch fixes this. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- games/atc/atc.6.orig Sat Sep 11 21:30:35 1999 +++ games/atc/atc.6 Sat Sep 11 21:31:09 1999 @@ -135,7 +135,7 @@ It should be stressed that the terminal driver portion of the game was designed to be reconfigurable, so the display format can vary depending the version you are playing. The descriptions here are based -on the ascii version +on the ASCII version of the game. The game rules and input format, however, should remain consistent. Control-L redraws the screen, should it become muddled. @@ -150,12 +150,12 @@ the numerical altitude is a single digit, then it represents thousands of feet. Some distinction is made between the prop -planes and the jets. On ascii terminals, prop planes are +planes and the jets. On ASCII terminals, prop planes are represented by a upper case letter, jets by a lower case letter. .IP Airports are shown as a number and some indication of the direction planes must be going to land at the airport. -On ascii terminals, this is one of '^', '>', '<', and 'v', to indicate +On ASCII terminals, this is one of '^', '>', '<', and 'v', to indicate north (0 degrees), east (90), west (270) and south (180), respectively. The planes will also take off in this direction. @@ -168,7 +168,7 @@ radar screen. Planes will enter the arena from these points without warning. These points have a direction associated with them, and planes will always enter the arena from this direction. On the -ascii version of +ASCII version of .I atc, this direction is not displayed. It will become apparent what this direction is as the game progresses. --- usr.bin/ee/ee.1.orig Sat Sep 11 21:30:35 1999 +++ usr.bin/ee/ee.1 Sat Sep 11 21:31:14 1999 @@ -210,7 +210,7 @@ .It case Make searches case sensitive. .It character -Display the ascii value of the character at the cursor. +Display the ASCII value of the character at the cursor. .It exit Save the edited text, and leave the editor. .It expand --- usr.bin/file/file.1.orig Sat Sep 11 21:30:35 1999 +++ usr.bin/file/file.1 Sat Sep 11 21:31:20 1999 @@ -103,7 +103,7 @@ (such as .Xr tar 1 archives) and determine whether an unknown file should be -labelled as `ascii text' or `data'. +labelled as `ASCII text' or `data'. .Sh OPTIONS .Bl -tag -width indent .It Fl v --- lib/libftpio/ftpio.3.orig Sat Sep 11 21:30:35 1999 +++ lib/libftpio/ftpio.3 Sat Sep 11 21:32:39 1999 @@ -140,7 +140,7 @@ pointer for the file or NULL on failure. .Pp .Fn ftpAscii -sets ascii mode for the current server connection named by +sets ASCII mode for the current server connection named by .Fa stream . .Pp .Fn ftpBinary --- libexec/getty/gettytab.5.orig Sat Sep 11 21:30:35 1999 +++ libexec/getty/gettytab.5 Sat Sep 11 21:32:45 1999 @@ -394,7 +394,7 @@ will wait for the first string, and if it finds it, will send the second, and so on. Strings specified are separated by one or more tabs or spaces. -Strings may contain standard ascii characters and special 'escapes', +Strings may contain standard ASCII characters and special 'escapes', which consist of a backslash character followed by one or more characters which are interpreted as follows: .Pp --- gnu/usr.bin/gzip/gzip.1.orig Sat Sep 11 21:30:35 1999 +++ gnu/usr.bin/gzip/gzip.1 Sat Sep 11 21:33:13 1999 @@ -175,7 +175,7 @@ .SH OPTIONS .TP .B \-a --ascii -Ascii text mode: convert end-of-lines using local conventions. This option +ASCII text mode: convert end-of-lines using local conventions. This option is supported only on some non-Unix systems. For MSDOS, CR LF is converted to LF when compressing, and LF is converted to CR LF when decompressing. .TP --- usr.bin/hexdump/hexdump.1.orig Sat Sep 11 21:30:35 1999 +++ usr.bin/hexdump/hexdump.1 Sat Sep 11 21:33:38 1999 @@ -37,7 +37,7 @@ .Os .Sh NAME .Nm hexdump, hd -.Nd ascii, decimal, hexadecimal, octal dump +.Nd ASCII, decimal, hexadecimal, octal dump .Sh SYNOPSIS .Nm hexdump .Op Fl bcCdovx --- share/man/man7/hier.7.orig Sat Sep 11 21:30:35 1999 +++ share/man/man7/hier.7 Sat Sep 11 21:33:50 1999 @@ -365,7 +365,7 @@ .It Li examples/ various examples for users and programmers .It Li games/ -ascii text files used by various games +ASCII text files used by various games .It Li groff_font/ device description file for device name .It Li info/ @@ -383,7 +383,7 @@ .It Li me/ macros for use with the me macro package .It Li misc/ -misc system-wide ascii text files +misc system-wide ASCII text files .Bl -tag -width Fl -compact .It Li fonts/ ??? --- usr.sbin/kernbb/kernbb.8.orig Sat Sep 11 21:30:35 1999 +++ usr.sbin/kernbb/kernbb.8 Sat Sep 11 21:34:03 1999 @@ -49,7 +49,7 @@ .Fl a option. .Pp -The output format is ascii, consisting of one line per record with the +The output format is ASCII, consisting of one line per record with the following fields: filename, linenumber, procedure, address, count of executions, length of the basic-block in bytes and the product of the previous two fields. --- lib/libutil/login_times.3.orig Sat Sep 11 21:30:35 1999 +++ lib/libutil/login_times.3 Sat Sep 11 21:34:09 1999 @@ -68,7 +68,7 @@ .Pp The .Fn parse_lt -function converts the ascii representation of a time period into +function converts the ASCII representation of a time period into a structure of type .Ft login_time_t . This is defined as: --- usr.sbin/lpr/lpd/lpd.8.orig Sat Sep 11 21:30:35 1999 +++ usr.sbin/lpr/lpd/lpd.8 Sat Sep 11 21:34:14 1999 @@ -182,7 +182,7 @@ .Xr pr 1 and the text filters. .It I -Indent. The number of characters to indent the output by (in ascii). +Indent. The number of characters to indent the output by (in ASCII). .It U Unlink. Name of file to remove upon completion of printing. .It N --- usr.bin/mklocale/mklocale.1.orig Sat Sep 11 21:30:35 1999 +++ usr.bin/mklocale/mklocale.1 Sat Sep 11 21:34:24 1999 @@ -72,7 +72,7 @@ may be any of the following: .Bl -tag -width 0x[0-9a-z]* .It Ar 'x' -The ascii character +The ASCII character .Ar x . .It Ar '\ex' The ANSI C character @@ -188,7 +188,7 @@ .Dv RUNE2 is the integer value represented by .Dv RUNE1 . -For example, the ascii character +For example, the ASCII character .Nm '0' would map to the decimal value .Nm 0 . --- usr.sbin/xntpd/doc/ntpq.8.orig Sat Sep 11 21:30:35 1999 +++ usr.sbin/xntpd/doc/ntpq.8 Sat Sep 11 21:34:36 1999 @@ -161,7 +161,7 @@ .It raw Cause all output from query commands is printed as received from the remote server. The only formating/intepretation done on the data is to -transform nonascii data into a printable (but barely understandable) +transform non-ASCII data into a printable (but barely understandable) form. .It cooked Cause output from query commands to be --- usr.bin/hexdump/od.1.orig Sat Sep 11 21:30:35 1999 +++ usr.bin/hexdump/od.1 Sat Sep 11 21:34:46 1999 @@ -37,7 +37,7 @@ .Dt OD 1 .Sh NAME .Nm od -.Nd octal, decimal, hex, ascii dump +.Nd octal, decimal, hex, ASCII dump .Sh SYNOPSIS .Nm od .Op Fl aBbcDdeFfHhIiLlOovXx --- usr.sbin/ppp/ppp.8.orig Sat Sep 11 21:30:35 1999 +++ usr.sbin/ppp/ppp.8 Sat Sep 11 21:34:53 1999 @@ -3390,7 +3390,7 @@ .Pp When configuring .Nm -in this manner, it's expected that the host challenge is a series of ascii +in this manner, it's expected that the host challenge is a series of ASCII digits or characters. An encryption device or Secure ID card is usually required to calculate the secret appropriate for the given challenge. .It set authname Ar id --- lib/libutil/property.3.orig Sat Sep 11 21:30:35 1999 +++ lib/libutil/property.3 Sat Sep 11 21:34:59 1999 @@ -32,7 +32,7 @@ .Nm properties_read , .Nm propery_find , .Nm properties_free -.Nd functions to allow creating simple property lists from ascii file data. +.Nd functions to allow creating simple property lists from ASCII file data. .Sh SYNOPSIS .Fd #include <sys/types.h> .Fd #include <libutil.h> --- lib/libutil/realhostname.3.orig Sat Sep 11 21:30:35 1999 +++ lib/libutil/realhostname.3 Sat Sep 11 21:35:07 1999 @@ -65,7 +65,7 @@ .Xr inet_ntoa 3 is used to convert .Ar ip -to an ascii form. +to an ASCII form. .Pp If the string written to .Ar host --- sbin/swapon/swapon.8.orig Sat Sep 11 21:30:35 1999 +++ sbin/swapon/swapon.8 Sat Sep 11 21:35:15 1999 @@ -80,7 +80,7 @@ .It Pa /dev/{wd,da}?s?b standard paging devices .It Pa /etc/fstab -ascii filesystem description table +ASCII filesystem description table .El .Sh BUGS There is no way to stop paging and swapping on a device. --- lib/libc/gen/sysctl.3.orig Sat Sep 11 21:30:35 1999 +++ lib/libc/gen/sysctl.3 Sat Sep 11 21:35:20 1999 @@ -77,7 +77,7 @@ .Pp The .Fn sysctlbyname -function accepts an ascii representation of the name and internally +function accepts an ASCII representation of the name and internally looks up the integer name vector. Apart from that, it behaves the same as the standard .Fn sysctl >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message