From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jul 25 4:40:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from staff.cs.usyd.edu.au (staff.cs.usyd.edu.au [129.78.8.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5652214F66 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 04:40:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mhenry@black.ug.cs.usyd.edu.au) Subject: 3Com 3c509 conflict with vga0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 21:38:46 +1000 (EST) From: "Michael Kenneth Henry" Content-Type: text Content-Length: 871 Message-Id: <19990725114035.5652214F66@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, I've installed a 3Com 3c509 (isa) in my computer, which uses irq 10, the same irq as is used by the vga driver. Unfortunately, the card does not have any jumpers or any other way to change the irq and base address, and as far as I can tell, there is no way to make the vga driver use a different irq. I've tried using the network card, but I got extremely slow (net) response and the terminal froze. (I was unable to type at the prompt, although I could use the Alt+F2 combination to get another prompt and kill the first session). Is there a way I can get this to work? Thanks, Michael Jul 25 18:32:53 playground /kernel: vga0: rev 0x01 int a irq 10 on pci0.12.0 Jul 25 18:32:54 playground /kernel: ep0 at 0x300-0x30f irq 10 on isa Jul 25 18:32:54 playground /kernel: ep0: aui/utp[*UTP*] address 00:60:8c:ec:a6:bb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jul 25 5: 1:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mrelay.jrc.it (mrelay.jrc.it [139.191.1.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F6541513E for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 05:01:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick.hibma@jrc.it) Received: from elect8 (elect8.jrc.it [139.191.71.152]) by mrelay.jrc.it (LMC5692) with SMTP id NAA14292; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 13:55:48 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 13:55:47 +0200 (MET DST) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@elect8 Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: Michael Kenneth Henry Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3Com 3c509 conflict with vga0 In-Reply-To: <19990725114035.5652214F66@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [I assume you are talking about a Plug and play version of the card] Go to the 3com website and download the two floppies/sets of utilities for the 3c509 that should be available there. Boot a MS-DOS floppy and insert the disk. It should contain a utility that lets you configure the PNP settings of the card, and change the irq it is set to to 5 or so. Or on the other hand if the motherboard you have is PCI, try to find an option in the BIOS to select irq 10 as being ISA/legacy. That should avoid yoyr (PCI) vga card (or any other card for that matter) from being asigned IRQ 10. If you have trouble in creating the disks, let me know and I can prepare them for you. It might be an idea next time to post this to questions. Ciao, Nick On Sun, 25 Jul 1999, Michael Kenneth Henry wrote: > Hi all, > > I've installed a 3Com 3c509 (isa) in my computer, which uses irq 10, > the same irq as is used by the vga driver. Unfortunately, the card > does not have any jumpers or any other way to change the irq and base > address, and as far as I can tell, there is no way to make the vga > driver use a different irq. > > I've tried using the network card, but I got extremely slow (net) response > and the terminal froze. (I was unable to type at the prompt, although > I could use the Alt+F2 combination to get another prompt and kill the > first session). > > Is there a way I can get this to work? > > Thanks, > > Michael > > Jul 25 18:32:53 playground /kernel: vga0: rev 0x01 int a irq 10 on pci0.12.0 > Jul 25 18:32:54 playground /kernel: ep0 at 0x300-0x30f irq 10 on isa > Jul 25 18:32:54 playground /kernel: ep0: aui/utp[*UTP*] address 00:60:8c:ec:a6:bb > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > > -- ISIS/STA, T.P.270, Joint Research Centre, 21020 Ispra, Italy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jul 26 8: 4:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from cobia.gulf.net (cobia.corp.gulf.net [206.105.61.192]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52CE114E95; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 08:04:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phill@cobia.gulf.net) Received: from localhost (phill@localhost) by cobia.gulf.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA00637; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:04:38 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:04:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Phillip Salzman To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: RAID controllers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I'm planning on deploying a massive squid cache in combination with the SkyCache satellite downlink. For this we decided that a RAID-5 system would be almost completely necessary. After looking at the DPT SmartRAID IV controller, we were going to purchase the PM3334UDW (low voltage differential). Oddly enough, DPT is no longer offering this controller. They seem to still have the regular PM3334UW, and the newer SmartRAID V. Does anyone know of a place that may still have the PM3334UDW in stock, or know the current status of the drivers for the SmartRAID V? I'd really really hate to be forced to install the alternative on the squid cache, Redtie, because of support reasons. Thanks in advance! --- Phillip Salzman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jul 26 8:12:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [207.239.68.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C60314FF8; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 08:12:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsdlist@federation.addy.com) Received: from localhost (fbsdlist@localhost) by federation.addy.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA24918; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:11:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:11:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Cliff Addy To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Linksys EtherFast card In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm trying to get 3.1 system upgraded to a Linksys EtherFast 10/100 lan card. However, I can't get the system to recognize it. I haven't been able to puzzle out what device name it's supposed to be. I was hoping that, being PCI, that FBSD would let me know somehow but I don't see anything in the messages about it finding any of the ethernet devices. Any advice? Cliff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jul 26 10:24:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from team7.cba.ualr.edu (team7.cba.ualr.edu [144.167.120.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D0F14E61; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:24:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@team7.cba.ualr.edu) Received: from access81.mod1.ualr.edu (IDENT:joe@access81.mod1.ualr.edu [144.167.7.81]) by team7.cba.ualr.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12832; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:23:36 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from joe@team7.cba.ualr.edu) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:24:58 -0500 (CDT) From: X-Sender: joe@njal.ualr.edu To: Cliff Addy Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linksys EtherFast card In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Cliff Addy wrote: > I'm trying to get 3.1 system upgraded to a Linksys EtherFast 10/100 lan > card. However, I can't get the system to recognize it. I haven't been > able to puzzle out what device name it's supposed to be. I was hoping > that, being PCI, that FBSD would let me know somehow but I don't see > anything in the messages about it finding any of the ethernet devices. > > Any advice? > > Cliff > > It uses pn0 driver. -Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jul 26 10:31:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from waveconcepts.com (waveconcepts.com [207.126.116.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1507914F18; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:31:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from siberian@siberian.org) Received: from [216.112.76.84] (gamera.siberian.org [216.112.76.84] (may be forged)) by waveconcepts.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA10065; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: siberian@207.126.116.40 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:32:14 -0700 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: John Armstrong Subject: Re: Linksys EtherFast card Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I recently had this problem as well. pn0 recognizes it but the card just will not work. It sets itself to 10BaseT/UTP and does nothing although I may possibly have a configuration problem. I installed some normal 10BaseT cards and they work fine under the ed1 driver. Anyone know what possible configuration gotchas these cards have? The linksys cards I bought had a different chipset ID then mentioned in the man page. I have the ID : LC82C115, perhaps something changed? John- At 12:24 PM -0500 7/26/99, wrote: >On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Cliff Addy wrote: > > > I'm trying to get 3.1 system upgraded to a Linksys EtherFast 10/100 lan > > card. However, I can't get the system to recognize it. I haven't been > > able to puzzle out what device name it's supposed to be. I was hoping > > that, being PCI, that FBSD would let me know somehow but I don't see > > anything in the messages about it finding any of the ethernet devices. > > > > Any advice? > > > > Cliff > > > > > >It uses pn0 driver. > >-Joe > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message ------------------------------------------------------------------ He didn't know the right people, thats all a police record means. -Raymond Chandler To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jul 26 12:23:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f201.hotmail.com [207.82.251.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1670E14E2B for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:23:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from the_hermit665@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 11996 invoked by uid 0); 26 Jul 1999 19:23:14 -0000 Message-ID: <19990726192314.11995.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 216.160.92.86 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:23:14 PDT X-Originating-IP: [216.160.92.86] Reply-To: the_hermit665@hotmail.com From: "Cosmic 665" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Propritary Cd-Rom Drives Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:23:14 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi all; I got an "OlD-Fashion" reveal CD-ROM drive (you know the kind that runs on the soundcard cable :P) and I'm trying to get this wonderfull state-of-the-art cdrom drive to run under FreeBSD. does anyone know the driver I should use?? thanks; Cosmic-665 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jul 26 14:22:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from gateway.cybernet.com (gateway.cybernet.com [192.245.33.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 882E614CE2; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:22:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mtaylor@cybernet.com) Received: from spiffy.cybernet.com (spiffy.cybernet.com [192.245.33.55]) by gateway.cybernet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA16381; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:21:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mtaylor@cybernet.com) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:25:23 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: mtaylor@cybernet.com Organization: Cybernet Systems From: "Mark J. Taylor" To: Phillip Salzman Subject: RE: RAID controllers Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The SmartRaid IV is supported under FreeBSD, and the V is not. We've tried them both under both FreeBSD 2.2.8 and 3.2. (I think that DPT provides a RPM for their SmartRaid V card for Linux.) There is an "open issue" with the IV: put in the Cache/RAID5 controller module (necessary to do RAID), and your performance DROPS TO NEARLY 220 kbytes/sec read performance. Ick. We tried the SmartRaid IV on several different machines, with different SCSI hard drives, same result: when you put in the Cache/RAID5 module, the performance really drops. From what I've gathered, the problem may be in the IRQ generation: the controller generates about 1 IRQ per second during read operations ('systat -vm 1'), which means that the driver is either in poll mode, or the hardware is 'broken'. We've been in contact with DPT (last week, as a matter of fact) regarding this. They know about it, and don't have a work- around. -Mark Taylor NetMAX Developer mtaylor@cybernet.com FreeBSD 3.2 based NetMAX is now available! Linux 2.0.37/RedHat 5.2 based NetMAX is now available! http://www.netmax.com/ On 26-Jul-99 Phillip Salzman wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm planning on deploying a massive squid cache in combination with > the SkyCache satellite downlink. For this we decided that a RAID-5 > system would be almost completely necessary. > > After looking at the DPT SmartRAID IV controller, we were going to > purchase the PM3334UDW (low voltage differential). Oddly enough, DPT > is no longer offering this controller. They seem to still have the > regular PM3334UW, and the newer SmartRAID V. > > Does anyone know of a place that may still have the PM3334UDW in stock, > or know the current status of the drivers for the SmartRAID V? I'd > really really hate to be forced to install the alternative on the squid > cache, Redtie, because of support reasons. > > Thanks in advance! > > --- > Phillip Salzman > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jul 26 18:19: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 138F915022; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 18:18:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id KAA19291; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:48:32 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id KAA62389; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:48:32 +0930 (CST) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:48:32 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Cosmic 665 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Propritary Cd-Rom Drives Message-ID: <19990727104832.C62218@freebie.lemis.com> References: <19990726192314.11995.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990726192314.11995.qmail@hotmail.com>; from Cosmic 665 on Mon, Jul 26, 1999 at 12:23:14PM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [moved to FreeBSD-questions] On Monday, 26 July 1999 at 12:23:14 -0700, Cosmic 665 wrote: > hi all; > > > I got an "OlD-Fashion" reveal CD-ROM drive (you know the kind that runs > on the soundcard cable :P) and I'm trying to get this wonderfull > state-of-the-art cdrom drive to run under FreeBSD. does anyone know the > driver I should use?? No. How do you expect us to if you don't specify the model? Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jul 26 21:32:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from cs.rpi.edu (mumble.cs.rpi.edu [128.213.8.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0798E1526A for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 21:32:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maniattb@cs.rpi.edu) Received: from cs.rpi.edu (maniattb@dishwasher.cs.rpi.edu [128.213.8.31]) by cs.rpi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA53231; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 00:30:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907270430.AAA53231@cs.rpi.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Cc: maniattb@cs.rpi.edu Subject: Dual Processor Motherboards Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 00:30:29 -0400 From: Bill Maniatty Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello There: I was looking to make an affordable, yet high performance home machine using a dual processor board. I want to be able to run the most recent stable release, and was going to get Intel based processors. I would like the processors to be fairly speedy, say 400-500 MHZ. Since I'm going to live with the system for quite a while, I might want it to be kind of fast (but not prohibitively expensive). I had the following questions: 1) Do people have specific recommendations about boards to buy/don't buy? 2) A local vendor is pushing Soyo boards at a $239 which is below the $400+ prices I have seen quoted for an AsusTek P2B-DS board. I assume they mean a SY-D6IBA or SY-D6IBA2. Anybody have any experiences with such a board? Regards: Bill Maniatty -- ------------------------------------ Dr. William (Bill) A. Maniatty Assistant Professor Department of Computer Science University at Albany Albany, NY 12222 e-mail (at RPI): maniattb@cs.rpi.edu e-mail (at SUNYA): maniatty@cs.albany.edu URL: http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~maniattb ------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jul 26 23:35:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from dt011n65.san.rr.com (dt011n65.san.rr.com [204.210.13.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6353152CC for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 23:35:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt011n65.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA25544; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 23:34:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Message-ID: <379D52E9.E5A375C@gorean.org> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 23:34:17 -0700 From: Doug Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Maniatty Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dual Processor Motherboards References: <199907270430.AAA53231@cs.rpi.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bill Maniatty wrote: > > Hello There: > > I was looking to make an affordable, yet high performance home machine > using a dual processor board. I want to be able to run the most recent > stable release, and was going to get Intel based processors. I would > like the processors to be fairly speedy, say 400-500 MHZ. Since I'm going > to live with the system for quite a while, I might want it to be kind > of fast (but not prohibitively expensive). Well, it's really hard to get better equipment than you're willing to pay for. :) We have had very good luck at work with the Intel N440BX with dual PIII 500's, but our systems are pretty well loaded down, and cost > $3k. HTH, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jul 26 23:58:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from cod.progroup.com (cod.progroup.com [207.44.190.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4683314F64 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 23:57:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from craig@progroup.com) Received: from progroup.com (guppy.progroup.com [207.44.190.237]) by cod.progroup.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA05919 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 23:53:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from craig@progroup.com) Message-ID: <379D583F.CCFCCA28@progroup.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 23:57:03 -0700 From: Craig Shaver Organization: Productivity Group, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dual Processor Motherboards References: <199907270430.AAA53231@cs.rpi.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bill Maniatty wrote: > > Hello There: > > I was looking to make an affordable, yet high performance home machine > using a dual processor board. I want to be able to run the most recent > stable release, and was going to get Intel based processors. I would > like the processors to be fairly speedy, say 400-500 MHZ. Since I'm going > to live with the system for quite a while, I might want it to be kind > of fast (but not prohibitively expensive). > > I had the following questions: > 1) Do people have specific recommendations about boards to buy/don't buy? > 2) A local vendor is pushing Soyo boards at a $239 which is below the $400+ > prices I have seen quoted for an AsusTek P2B-DS board. I assume they > mean a SY-D6IBA or SY-D6IBA2. Anybody have any experiences with such > a board? > I was going to try a system built around an ABIT BP6 Dual Socket 370 Processor ATX Mother-Board . Ultra DMA66 . Intel 440BX AGPset . 5 PCI / 2 ISA / 1 AGP Slots . 3 x 168-pin Memory Slots up to 768Mb Takes 2 Celery chips. The board can be had for under $140, and the Celeries are around $100 each for the 400mhz ones. My reasearch says this should be the best bang for the buck. No on board anything, so you will have to go buy a few boards. -- Craig Shaver (craig@progroup.com) (650)390-0654 Productivity Group POB 60458 Sunnyvale, CA 94088 http://www.progroup.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jul 27 0:32:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from u1.farm.idt.net (u1.farm.idt.net [169.132.8.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A1015300 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 00:32:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wcohane@idt.net) Received: from asus (ppp-21.ts-20-bay.nyc.idt.net [169.132.219.213]) by u1.farm.idt.net (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA19706 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 03:30:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990727032544.009b6b30@pop3.idt.net> X-Sender: wcohane@pop3.idt.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 03:30:24 -0400 To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG From: Bill Cohane Subject: Re: Dual Processor Motherboards Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 00:30 7/27/99 , Bill Maniatty wrote: >I was looking to make an affordable, yet high performance home machine >using a dual processor board. I want to be able to run the most recent >stable release, and was going to get Intel based processors. I would >like the processors to be fairly speedy, say 400-500 MHZ. Since I'm >going to live with the system for quite a while, I might want it to be >kind of fast (but not prohibitively expensive). Hi Bill I recently built myself an SMP system using an Abit BP6 motherboard ($139) and two $60 PPGA Celeron 300a processors, both easily overclocked to 450 MHz. (The BP6 re-enables the SMP capability of the Celerons that Intel had disabled.) For information on the Abit dual socket 370 board, see . lists dozens of dealers with BP6 boards in stock, from $130 on up. (I have used PCNUT and Atacom with good success.) Of course you can always pay more and put 466 MHz Celerons on the Abit BP6 board instead of overclocking 300a Celerons. Another way to do dual processing with Celerons is to buy a dual slot one board (like the Abit P2B-D for $275) and use two MSI MS-6905 "slotket" adaptors. See . For a comparison of Dual Celeron vs. Dual Pentium III systems (with benchmarks), see . You will generally find that the Celerons hold their own against the more expensive Pentium II and III processors...despite their smaller (but faster) L2 cache. By the way... Check out the MSI dual slot one MS-6120 motherboard at . I know several people who are very happy with single processor MSI slot one and socket 370 boards. Regards, Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jul 27 10:30:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from cs.rpi.edu (mumble.cs.rpi.edu [128.213.8.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4644F14DE1 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:29:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maniattb@cs.rpi.edu) Received: from dishwasher.cs.rpi.edu (maniattb@dishwasher.cs.rpi.edu [128.213.8.31]) by cs.rpi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA64075; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:28:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Maniatty Received: (from maniattb@localhost) by dishwasher.cs.rpi.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA09383; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:28:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:28:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907271728.NAA09383@dishwasher.cs.rpi.edu> To: Doug@gorean.org, maniattb@cs.rpi.edu Subject: Re: Dual Processor Motherboards Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks for the information Doug! Regards: Bill Maniatty To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jul 27 11:52:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from hurricane.columbus.rr.com (m5.columbus.rr.com [204.210.252.249]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11BE714BFF for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:52:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from caa@midgard.dhs.org) Received: from midgard.dhs.org ([24.95.60.151]) by hurricane.columbus.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-53939U80000L80000S0V35) with ESMTP id com; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:49:55 -0400 Received: (from caa@localhost) by midgard.dhs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA09269; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:52:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from caa) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:52:46 -0400 From: Charles Anderson To: Bill Maniatty Cc: Doug@gorean.org, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dual Processor Motherboards Message-ID: <19990727145246.F8555@midgard.dhs.org> References: <199907271728.NAA09383@dishwasher.cs.rpi.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: <199907271728.NAA09383@dishwasher.cs.rpi.edu>; from Bill Maniatty on Tue, Jul 27, 1999 at 01:28:43PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If your going to go for the dual Celeron boards, get your CPUs fast. Intel has supposedly started marking Celerons as Uniprocessor only, and will be changing the die to guarantee it. This article from The Register talks more about it. -Charlie -- Charles Anderson caa@columbus.rr.com No quote, no nothin' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jul 27 12: 8:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from george.lbl.gov (george.lbl.gov [131.243.2.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5F014BFF for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:08:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jin@george.lbl.gov) Received: (from jin@localhost) by george.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.2) id MAA18215; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199907271907.MAA18215@george.lbl.gov> From: jin@george.lbl.gov To: caa@midgard.dhs.org, maniattb@cs.rpi.edu Subject: Re: Dual Processor Motherboards Cc: Doug@gorean.org, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > If your going to go for the dual Celeron boards, get your CPUs fast. > Intel has supposedly started marking Celerons as Uniprocessor only, and > will be changing the die to guarantee it. This article from The Register > talks more about it. Has this a seriously confirmed? The story I heard was that Intel will combine the P-II, P-III, and Celeron techonogy to make a new Celeron; maybe the person who told me this story is wrong, but I could not think what is the good reason for Intel to make Uniprocessor Celeron. -Jin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jul 27 12:22:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from sammy.tibco.com (sammy.TIBCO.COM [192.216.111.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0DDA15289 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:22:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aram@tibco.com) Received: from osgood.tibco.com (osgood.tibco.com [160.101.240.42]) by sammy.tibco.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01504 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:21:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from venus.tibco.com (venus.tibco.com [160.101.240.40]) by osgood.tibco.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28878 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:21:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tibco.com ([160.101.22.192]) by venus.tibco.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA4E58; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:17:46 -0700 Message-ID: <379E063E.D5FCB9DB@tibco.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:19:26 -0700 From: "Aram Compeau" Organization: TIBCO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jin@george.lbl.gov Cc: caa@midgard.dhs.org, maniattb@cs.rpi.edu, Doug@gorean.org, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dual Processor Motherboards References: <199907271907.MAA18215@george.lbl.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Jin, It's not so much that they need to make a uniprocessor Celeron but instead that they protect the P-II & P-III cash cows. If you can run a dual-CPU system with $60 Celerons that is, for all practical purposes, exactly as fast as a system with $250 P-III's, then why would you spend the extra money? Realize that it costs almost the same amount of money to manufacture both CPU's (not quite, but very close). Intel downplays the Celerons as 'low-end' CPU's when benchmarks put the lie to that marketing spin. Now the size of the on chip cache will make a difference under some circumstances (esp. with certain server situations), but most workstation usage will see equivalent performance with a dual Celeron system. So, since this could seriously undercut their profit margins, Intel is taking steps to ensure that corporate users must fill Intel's coffers by buying expensive P-III's instead of Celerons. >:-\ So, while I'd agree that there isn't a good technical reason to prohibit multi-CPU Celeron systems, there is a great profitability reason (from Intel's standpoint, of course :-). Aram jin@george.lbl.gov wrote: > > If your going to go for the dual Celeron boards, get your CPUs fast. > > Intel has supposedly started marking Celerons as Uniprocessor only, and > > will be changing the die to guarantee it. This article from The Register > > talks more about it. > > Has this a seriously confirmed? > The story I heard was that Intel will combine the P-II, P-III, and Celeron > techonogy to make a new Celeron; maybe the person who told me this story > is wrong, but I could not think what is the good reason for Intel to make > Uniprocessor Celeron. > > -Jin > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jul 27 12:26:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from persprog.com (persprog.com [209.208.0.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F4D1527A for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:25:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dave@mmrd.com) Received: by persprog.com (8.7.5/4.10) id OAA18009; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:17:06 -0500 Received: from dave.ppi.com(192.2.2.6) by cerberus.ppi.com via smap (V1.3) id sma018001; Tue Jul 27 15:16:38 1999 Message-ID: <199907271516420421.065BFD72@192.2.2.105> In-Reply-To: <199907271907.MAA18215@george.lbl.gov> References: <199907271907.MAA18215@george.lbl.gov> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.00.00.14 (1) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:16:42 -0400 From: "David W. Alderman" To: jin@george.lbl.gov, caa@midgard.dhs.org, maniattb@cs.rpi.edu Cc: Doug@gorean.org, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dual Processor Motherboards Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The Celeron is meant only to compete with AMD's K6 which is effectively uniprocessor thanks to the APIC. A multiprocessor Celeron competes with Intel's cash-cow, the P-III. On 7/27/1999 at 12:07 PM jin@george.lbl.gov dared write for all to see: >The story I heard was that Intel will combine the P-II, P-III, and Celeron >techonogy to make a new Celeron; maybe the person who told me this story >is wrong, but I could not think what is the good reason for Intel to make >Uniprocessor Celeron. > Dave Dave Alderman - "May my words today be sweet and tender, for tomorrow I may have to eat them." Business: dave@persprog.com is changing to dave@mmrd.com Personal: dwa@atlantic.net -or- dwa@netcommander.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jul 27 14:42:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from roma.coe.ufrj.br (roma.coe.ufrj.br [146.164.53.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE1415170 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:42:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonny@jonny.eng.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by roma.coe.ufrj.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA07069 for hardware@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:42:17 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:42:17 -0300 To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: USB Cameras Message-ID: <19990727184217.A6925@roma.coe.ufrj.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i X-Quote: What are you looking for in my mail headers ? X-Operating-System: FreeBSD X-URL: http://www.jonny.eng.br Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Is there any project to support USB video cameras in the near future ? If not, does somebody have a hardware programming reference to give ? TIA, Jonny PS: I would buy a Bt848 card if I could choose, but these USB cams are to cheap around here, and can be found just around a corner. I'd like to try FreeBSD videoconferencing support with them someday avoiding the Windows slavery. -- João Carlos Mendes Luís jonny@jonny.eng.br Networking Engineer jcml@ieee.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jul 27 15:16:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f147.hotmail.com [207.82.251.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 38DA515391 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:16:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from the_hermit665@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 38624 invoked by uid 0); 27 Jul 1999 22:16:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19990727221600.38623.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 216.160.92.86 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:16:00 PDT X-Originating-IP: [216.160.92.86] Reply-To: the_hermit665@hotmail.com From: "Cosmic 665" To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dual Processor Motherboards Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:16:00 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Has this a seriously confirmed? >The story I heard was that Intel will combine the P-II, P-III, and Celeron >techonogy to make a new Celeron; maybe the person who told me this story >is wrong, but I could not think what is the good reason for Intel to make >Uniprocessor Celeron. > Because the bastards at intel want U to spend more money on the new "Ultra-Bullshit" PIII's. they figure why not drain an extra $50-200 out of your pocket rather than ya saving $50-200 on a celerons!!! What is the deal on that new AK-1 or whatever CPU that Intel's coming out with that will be "RISC-Compatible??" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jul 27 20:54:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from andrew.cmu.edu (ANDREW.CMU.EDU [128.2.10.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA0A1153DA for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 20:54:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from williams@hamlet.res.cmu.edu) Received: from hamlet.res.cmu.edu... (HAMLET.RES.CMU.EDU [128.2.160.8]) by andrew.cmu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA16264 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:53:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by hamlet.res.cmu.edu...; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:53:37 -0400 Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:53:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Williams To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Dual-homed host Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Id like to put two ethernet cards in my freebsd box. They are both NE2000 compat cards. However, what is the driver name for the second card? How do I set that up? Also, I keep getting an error with my NIC. It says something to the effect of "Corrupt NIC memory, invalid packet length 45000" or something like that. This NIC was the one I installed FreeBSD over a network with, so it does work... Suggestions? Thanks, Dan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jul 27 21:16:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from nuada.kerris.com (nuada.kerris.com [205.150.35.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF8914D01 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:16:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mkerr@kerris.com) Received: from localhost (mkerr@localhost) by nuada.kerris.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA01753 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 00:20:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mkerr@kerris.com) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 00:20:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Kerr To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: XF86 Settings for MAG DX1795 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anybody have proper entries for the MAG DX1795 monitor? I'm specifically looking for 1152 or 1280 resolutions with as many colours as possible. I think 1280 can only go up to 16bpp but that's fine. The current settings I have are not correct and when I configure with XF86Setup it does not give me a proper screen. Thanks! Mike. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jul 27 21:59: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DD5314C28; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:58:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id OAA26243; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:28:09 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id OAA42252; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:27:54 +0930 (CST) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:27:54 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Dan Williams Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Dual-homed host Message-ID: <19990728142753.T66861@freebie.lemis.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Dan Williams on Tue, Jul 27, 1999 at 11:53:36PM -0400 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [moved to -questions: this is an administrative issue, not a hardware issue] On Tuesday, 27 July 1999 at 23:53:36 -0400, Dan Williams wrote: > > Id like to put two ethernet cards in my freebsd box. They are both NE2000 > compat cards. However, what is the driver name for the second card? The same as the first: ed. The first one will be unit 0 (ed0), the second one will be unit 1 (ed1). > How do I set that up? It should happen automatically. > Also, I keep getting an error with my NIC. It says something to the > effect of "Corrupt NIC memory, invalid packet length 45000" or > something like that. This NIC was the one I installed FreeBSD over > a network with, so it does work... Suggestions? Looks like a flaky board. Does the other one do the same thing? Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jul 27 23:58:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from ns.skylink.it (ns.skylink.it [194.177.113.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A94814F80 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:58:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hibma@skylink.it) Received: from heidi.plazza.it (va-178.skylink.it [194.185.55.178]) by ns.skylink.it (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA04823; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:54:35 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost.plazza.it [127.0.0.1]) by heidi.plazza.it (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA11998; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:49:27 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:49:27 +0200 (CEST) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@heidi.plazza.it Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: Dan Williams Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dual-homed host In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Could you post the dmesg of your machine when both cards are installed? Can you see them both? If so, are the iobase and irq different for the two cards? (if they are not displayed boot verbose (set boot_verbose at boot prompt)). If the cards are ISA make sure you use different IRQ and differen IOBASE. If they are PCI or EISA you should be alright and one of the cards is probably stuffed. Try to reseat the cards to make sure they are seated properly. Next time you mail something like this, mail more of the environment you are using. Which version of FreeBSD are you using for example? What other cards are in that machine? Nick On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Dan Williams wrote: > > Id like to put two ethernet cards in my freebsd box. They are both NE2000 > compat cards. However, what is the driver name for the second card? How > do I set that up? Also, I keep getting an error with my NIC. It says > something to the effect of "Corrupt NIC memory, invalid packet length > 45000" or something like that. This NIC was the one I installed FreeBSD > over a network with, so it does work... Suggestions? > > Thanks, > Dan > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > > -- e-Mail: hibma@skylink.it To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jul 28 0: 5:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from ns.skylink.it (ns.skylink.it [194.177.113.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9598A15455 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 00:05:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hibma@skylink.it) Received: from heidi.plazza.it (va-178.skylink.it [194.185.55.178]) by ns.skylink.it (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA05081; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:04:40 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost.plazza.it [127.0.0.1]) by heidi.plazza.it (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA12030; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:59:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:59:50 +0200 (CEST) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@heidi.plazza.it Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Cc: FreeBSD Hardware Mailing list , USB BSD list Subject: Re: USB Cameras In-Reply-To: <19990727184217.A6925@roma.coe.ufrj.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A number of people have promised to look into it, but so far no one has picked up on implementing isochroneous transfers in the USB source code. You could ask Roger for some update on this. Nick On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Joao Carlos Mendes Luis wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Is there any project to support USB video cameras in the near future ? >=20 > If not, does somebody have a hardware programming reference to give ? >=20 > TIA, >=20 > =09=09=09=09=09Jonny >=20 > PS: I would buy a Bt848 card if I could choose, but these USB cams are > to cheap around here, and can be found just around a corner. I'd like > to try FreeBSD videoconferencing support with them someday avoiding > the Windows slavery. >=20 > --=20 > Jo=E3o Carlos Mendes Lu=EDs=09=09=09jonny@jonny.eng.br > Networking Engineer=09=09=09jcml@ieee.org >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message >=20 >=20 --=20 e-Mail: hibma@skylink.it To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jul 28 9: 3: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from trooper.velocet.ca (trooper.velocet.net [209.167.225.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD5414DFD for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:02:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dgilbert@trooper.velocet.ca) Received: (from dgilbert@localhost) by trooper.velocet.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA70106; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 12:01:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dgilbert) From: David Gilbert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14239.10592.948209.726743@trooper.velocet.ca> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 12:01:36 -0400 (EDT) To: Nicolas Souchu Cc: dgilbert@velocet.ca, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: smbus not quite right? In-Reply-To: <19990724180824.18086@breizh.teaser.fr> References: <199907190324.XAA08403@strike.velocet.ca> <19990724180824.18086@breizh.teaser.fr> X-Mailer: VM 6.71 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>>> "Nicolas" == Nicolas Souchu writes: Nicolas> On Sun, Jul 18, 1999 at 11:24:05PM -0400, dgilbert@velocet.ca Nicolas> wrote: >> I have a machine with a P5A motherboard, which probes as follows: >> >> pcf0: iicbus0: on >> pcf0 addr 0xaa iicsmb0: on iicbus0 smbus0: >> on iicsmb0 smb0: > I/O> on smbus0 iic0: on iicbus0 >> >> Now... If I run mbmon in ISA mode, which opens /dev/io, it works. >> If I run it in in smbus mode, which opens /dev/smb0, it fails. >> Having read the documentation on /dev/io, I'd rather not have that >> ability on a server... I would guess that it requires an insecure >> level. Nicolas> Whats mbmon? You have actually a Philips PCF8584 connected to Nicolas> your ISA bus? mbmon is a little application (inside a xmbmon tarball) that probes this chipset for information. I don't actually know any details about my chipset per se, but it would appear that I do have a pcf8584... Dave. -- ============================================================================ |David Gilbert, Velocet Communications. | Two things can only be | |Mail: dgilbert@velocet.net | equal if and only if they | |http://www.velocet.net/~dgilbert | are precisely opposite. | =========================================================GLO================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jul 28 9:12:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from assurance.rstcorp.com (assurance.rstcorp.com [216.112.242.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C899154A9 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:12:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vshah@rstcorp.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by assurance.rstcorp.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA27633; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 06:44:51 -0400 Received: from proxy.rstcorp.com(216.112.242.5) by assurance.rstcorp.com via smap (V2.0) id xma027630; Mon, 26 Jul 99 10:44:01 GMT Received: from jabberwock.rstcorp.com (jabberwock.rstcorp.com [192.168.2.98]) by sandbox.rstcorp.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA28271; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 07:41:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Viren Shah Received: (from vshah@localhost) by jabberwock.rstcorp.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) id HAA74503; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 07:42:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 07:42:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907261142.HAA74503@jabberwock.rstcorp.com> To: hardware@freebsd.org, richard@pegasus.com Subject: Re: 3.2-stable SCSI caching controller? Cc: viren@viren.org In-Reply-To: <199907240121.PAA19041@pegasus.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >} >} We currently have a 2.2.6-BETA NFS server which we are >} planning to upgrade to 3.2-stable. >} >} We are looking for a caching SCSI controller (currently >} it uses the onboard 7880 wide controller). [...] > >Why? > Mainly because it is an NFS server, and my belief is that the more that the controller caches, the faster (hopefully) the servers I/O performance should be. Am I mistaken in this? If so, I would like to know why this doesn't hold true. >Sticking with mainstream hardware, wherever possible, is a very >good idea when dealing with pc-Unix. Well, DPT seems mainstream enough (at least in the FreeBSD community). Thanks Viren -- viren@viren.org viren@rstcorp.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jul 28 9:51: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from roma.coe.ufrj.br (roma.coe.ufrj.br [146.164.53.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9B514D70 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:50:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonny@jonny.eng.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by roma.coe.ufrj.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA13265; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:49:27 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:49:27 -0300 To: Nick Hibma Cc: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis , FreeBSD Hardware Mailing list , USB BSD list Subject: Re: USB Cameras Message-ID: <19990728134927.B13068@roma.coe.ufrj.br> References: <19990727184217.A6925@roma.coe.ufrj.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: ; from Nick Hibma on Wed, Jul 28, 1999 at 08:59:50AM +0200 X-Quote: What are you looking for in my mail headers ? X-Operating-System: FreeBSD X-URL: http://www.jonny.eng.br Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Somebody told me that Nick Hibma said: > > Is there any project to support USB video cameras in the near future? > A number of people have promised to look into it, but so far no one has > picked up on implementing isochroneous transfers in the USB source code. Is isochronicity really a must? Couldn't we just interpret it as a mass transfer device, and take snapshots from time to time? More important, is there some kind of standard, or should we create a driver for each manufacturer? Jonny -- João Carlos Mendes Luís jonny@jonny.eng.br Networking Engineer jcml@ieee.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jul 28 10:49:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from cod.progroup.com (cod.progroup.com [207.44.190.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE5E914C0E for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:49:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from craig@cod.progroup.com) Received: (from craig@localhost) by cod.progroup.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id KAA10749; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:44:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from craig) From: "Craig W. Shaver" Message-Id: <199907281744.KAA10749@cod.progroup.com> Subject: Re: Dual Processor Motherboards To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:44:38 -0700 (PDT) Cc: craig@cod.progroup.com (Craig W. Shaver) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, All this talk about dual cpu's, celery chips, etc., has gotten me off my butt. I had planned on buying one of these in a little while, but with the talk about how Intel may change the internals of the Celery to prohibit dual cpu use, I decided to go ahead and buy the system parts and build it. I will report back so interested parties can see what my experience was. There were some excellent suggestions from one fellow on where he bought his set up. I did some research and decided to go with a little hole in the wall outfit at http://www.advanceddesignky.com/ . This is Advanced Design of Kentucky (Hillbilly PC's R us :). They had decent pricing and specialized in overclocking and performance issues. So rather than make an educated guess and hope for the best, I asked this fellow what he recommended. He puts the cpus on the motherboard and tests before shipping. So I ended up with a system based on the ABIT BP6 and 2 Celery 366a's overclocked to 550mhz. If it doesn't hold up I can drop the bus rate back until it does. I should have it up and running in a week or so. I will report back to this list if anyone is interested in my experience. Any suggestions on benchmarks to run? Thanks for the input from everyone, -- Craig Shaver, Productivity Group POB 60458 Sunnyvale, CA 94088 (650)390-0654 http://www.progroup.com/ mailto:craig@progroup.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jul 28 13:28:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A2CD14C41 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:28:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA28915 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 22:26:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 22:26:29 +0200 (CEST) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <199907282026.WAA28915@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USB support for Kodak DC240 (umass)? Organization: Administration Heim 3 Reply-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 RZTUC(3) PL2] Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org OK, I got the interface specification for the Kodak DC240. They write that there was no standardized USB protocol for digital still cameras when they designed the DC240, so they simply use the same protocol for both serial (RS232) and USB. The protocol is pretty well documented, it is a sequence of command, data, result and status packets. I'd be willing to try writing a driver for this, but the problem is, I have no clue about USB. I don't know how to send a "packet" to an USB device at all. Is there some documentation about such basic USB things? Sending data to some serial RS232 device is easy, but how do I do that to an USB device? In theory, it would be possible to write a filesystem driver for this camera (it has commands to retrieve directory and file data from the CompactFlash card, which is basically a FAT filesystem). But I think this would not be worth the effort. I'd be just happy to have a userland tool that can get an "ls" and the actual JPEG images from the camera. Regards Oliver PS: This camera is just great, I love it! > # usbdevs -v > Controller /dev/usb0: > addr 1: self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x0000), Intel(0x0000), rev 1.00 > port 1 addr 2: self powered, config 1, KODAK DC240 Zoom Digital Camera(0x0120), Eastman Kodak Company(0x040a), rev 1.03 > port 2 powered > > # ./usb_dump -c 1 -i -f /dev/ugen0 > Product: KODAK DC240 Zoom Digital Camera > Vendor: Eastman Kodak Company > address 2 > > # ./usb_dump -c 1 -d -f /dev/ugen0 > DEVICE descriptor: > bLength=18 bDescriptorType=1 bcdUSB=1.00 bDeviceClass=0 bDeviceSubClass=0 > bDeviceProtocol=0 bMaxPacketSize=8 > idVendor=0x040a idProduct=0x0120 bcdDevice=103 > iManufacturer=1 iProduct=2 iSerialNumber=0 bNumConfigurations=1 > > CONFIGURATION descriptor: > bLength=9 bDescriptorType=2 wTotalLength=32 bNumInterface=1 > bConfigurationValue=1 iConfiguration=0 bmAttributes=40 bMaxPower=100 mA > > INTERFACE descriptor index 0: > bLength=9 bDescriptorType=4 bInterfaceNumber=0 bAlternateSetting=0 > bNumEndpoints=2 bInterfaceClass=0 bInterfaceSubClass=0 > bInterfaceProtocol=0 iInterface=0 > > ENDPOINT descriptor index 0: > bLength=7 bDescriptorType=5 bEndpointAddress=1-out > bmAttributes=2 wMaxPacketSize=64 bInterval=0 > > ENDPOINT descriptor index 1: > bLength=7 bDescriptorType=5 bEndpointAddress=2-in > bmAttributes=2 wMaxPacketSize=64 bInterval=0 > > # ./usb_dump -c 1 -D -f /dev/ugen0 > DEVICE descriptor: > bLength=18 bDescriptorType=1 bcdUSB=1.00 bDeviceClass=0 bDeviceSubClass=0 > bDeviceProtocol=0 bMaxPacketSize=8 > idVendor=0x040a idProduct=0x0120 bcdDevice=103 > iManufacturer=1 iProduct=2 iSerialNumber=0 bNumConfigurations=1 > > Current configuration is number 1 > > CONFIGURATION descriptor index 0: > bLength=9 bDescriptorType=2 wTotalLength=32 bNumInterface=1 > bConfigurationValue=1 iConfiguration=0 bmAttributes=40 bMaxPower=100 mA > > INTERFACE descriptor index 0, alt index 0: > bLength=9 bDescriptorType=4 bInterfaceNumber=0 bAlternateSetting=0 > bNumEndpoints=2 bInterfaceClass=0 bInterfaceSubClass=0 > bInterfaceProtocol=0 iInterface=0 > > ENDPOINT descriptor index 0: > bLength=7 bDescriptorType=5 bEndpointAddress=1-out > bmAttributes=2 wMaxPacketSize=64 bInterval=0 > > ENDPOINT descriptor index 1: > bLength=7 bDescriptorType=5 bEndpointAddress=2-in > bmAttributes=2 wMaxPacketSize=64 bInterval=0 -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jul 28 16: 4:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from c004.sfo.cp.net (c004-h005.c004.sfo.cp.net [209.228.14.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 64FCC14DB0 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 16:04:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jason@intercom.com) Received: (cpmta 867 invoked from network); 28 Jul 1999 16:02:02 -0700 Received: from jason.intercom.com (HELO intercom.com) (207.51.37.230) by smtp.intercom.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 1999 16:02:02 -0700 X-Sent: 28 Jul 1999 23:02:02 GMT Message-ID: <379F8A95.1D0A2B37@intercom.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 18:56:21 -0400 From: "Jason J. Horton" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: HP 6020i still supported? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is the HP 6020i SCSI CDR still supported? I don't see options in LINT to compile in a driver for /dev/worm0... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jul 28 16:16:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.kdm.org (panzer.kdm.org [216.160.178.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50B9F1508D for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 16:16:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.kdm.org) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.kdm.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA27610; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:14:53 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ken) Message-Id: <199907282314.RAA27610@panzer.kdm.org> Subject: Re: HP 6020i still supported? In-Reply-To: <379F8A95.1D0A2B37@intercom.com> from "Jason J. Horton" at "Jul 28, 1999 06:56:21 pm" To: jason@intercom.com (Jason J. Horton) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:14:53 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Kenneth D. Merry" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jason J. Horton wrote... > Is the HP 6020i SCSI CDR still supported? I don't see options in LINT > to compile in a driver for /dev/worm0... For FreeBSD 3.0 and later, there is no worm driver. You need to build cdrecord from the ports tree. (/usr/ports/sysutils/cdrecord) It supports far more CD burners than the old worm driver did. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jul 28 19: 9: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from titanium.yy.ics.keio.ac.jp (titanium.yy.ics.keio.ac.jp [131.113.47.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2026C14F9E; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 19:08:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sanpei@sanpei.org) Received: from oxygen.yy.ics.keio.ac.jp (oxygen.yy.ics.keio.ac.jp [131.113.47.3]) by titanium.yy.ics.keio.ac.jp (8.8.8+3.0Wbeta13/3.7W) with ESMTP id LAA14929; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:06:35 +0900 (JST) Received: from lavender.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp (u5005.seaple.icc.ne.jp [210.170.13.5]) by oxygen.yy.ics.keio.ac.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W) with ESMTP id LAA27664; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:06:34 +0900 (JST) Received: (from sanpei@localhost) by lavender.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7W) id LAA22722; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:06:34 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:06:34 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199907290206.LAA22722@lavender.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp> To: fbsdlist@federation.addy.com Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linksys EtherFast card In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 27 Jul 1999 00:11:03 JST". From: sanpei@sanpei.org (MIHIRA Yoshiro) X-Mailer: mnews [version 1.21] 1997-12/23(Tue) Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org fbsdlist@federation.addy.com Wrote: >> I'm trying to get 3.1 system upgraded to a Linksys EtherFast 10/100 lan >> card. However, I can't get the system to recognize it. I haven't been >> able to puzzle out what device name it's supposed to be. I was hoping >> that, being PCI, that FBSD would let me know somehow but I don't see >> anything in the messages about it finding any of the ethernet devices. If your Linksys Ethernet card uses MX chip(Macronix)[1] (LNE100TX-V2), please use with mx driver. If it uses LINKSYS Lite-On chip[2] (LNE100TX-JP) , try with pn driver. But FreeBSD-3.2-RELEASE if_mx and if_pn driver has problem for PNIC II, please use latest if_mx.c, if_pn.c driver. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/pci/if_pn.c 1.6.2.11 Change http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/pci/if_mx.c 1.8.2.6 Change MFC: fix support for PNIC II (add PNIC II ID to mx driver) [1] MX chip photo http://www.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp/~sanpei/FreeBSD/100BASE/MX98715EC.jpg [2] LINKSYS Lite-On chip photo http://www.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp/~sanpei/FreeBSD/100BASE/LC82C169.jpg MIHIRA Sanpei Yoshiro To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jul 28 20:21:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from daedal.oneway.com (daedal.oneway.com [205.252.89.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D76A14D3A for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 20:21:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jay@oneway.com) Received: from localhost (jay@localhost) by daedal.oneway.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA03098; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:19:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jay@oneway.com) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:19:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Jay Kuri To: Viren Shah Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, richard@pegasus.com, viren@viren.org Subject: Re: 3.2-stable SCSI caching controller? In-Reply-To: <199907261142.HAA74503@jabberwock.rstcorp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >Sticking with mainstream hardware, wherever possible, is a very > >good idea when dealing with pc-Unix. > > Well, DPT seems mainstream enough (at least in the FreeBSD > community). Just as an aside, one of our vendors has informed us that DPT told them that the 'standard' DPT raid and cache cards that have been supported by FreeBSD are being 'phased out' and will be unavailable starting in September. The SmartCache IV and SmartRaid IV cards (pm2144 and PM3334 models) are the ones we specifically were talking about. Hopefully the SmartRaid V will be supported under FreeBSD before then. Jay To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Jul 29 1:23:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mrelay.jrc.it (mrelay.jrc.it [139.191.1.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02EFE14E0B for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 01:23:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick.hibma@jrc.it) Received: from elect8 (elect8.jrc.it [139.191.71.152]) by mrelay.jrc.it (LMC5692) with ESMTP id KAA09169; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 10:22:45 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 10:22:44 +0200 (MET DST) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@elect8 Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: USB BSD list Subject: Re: USB support for Kodak DC240 (umass)? In-Reply-To: <199907282026.WAA28915@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is great news! The spec is under NDA? If not, could you either tell me where you got it or send me a copy by mail? Is there a set of tools to make the camera work with the serial port for either FreeBSD or Linux? If so, one could use those ones and write a simple transport layer for the USB side of it. It looks like you could simply write a low level driver that lets you write through a device entry in /dev to the camera and read again from it. The beginnings of the Modem driver I have here works that way. But maybe they have done something more complex by implementing some kind of IDE protocol on top of the serial connection. That would mean that we could adapt the ATAPI layer to accept the USB layer as a transport protocol. Are you subscribed to the usb-bsd@egroups.com mailing list? http://www.egroups.com Cheers, Nick Hibma On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > OK, I got the interface specification for the Kodak DC240. > > They write that there was no standardized USB protocol for > digital still cameras when they designed the DC240, so they > simply use the same protocol for both serial (RS232) and > USB. > > The protocol is pretty well documented, it is a sequence of > command, data, result and status packets. > > I'd be willing to try writing a driver for this, but the > problem is, I have no clue about USB. I don't know how to > send a "packet" to an USB device at all. Is there some > documentation about such basic USB things? Sending data > to some serial RS232 device is easy, but how do I do that > to an USB device? > > In theory, it would be possible to write a filesystem driver > for this camera (it has commands to retrieve directory and > file data from the CompactFlash card, which is basically a > FAT filesystem). But I think this would not be worth the > effort. I'd be just happy to have a userland tool that can > get an "ls" and the actual JPEG images from the camera. > > Regards > Oliver > > PS: This camera is just great, I love it! > > > > # usbdevs -v > > Controller /dev/usb0: > > addr 1: self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x0000), Intel(0x0000), rev 1.00 > > port 1 addr 2: self powered, config 1, KODAK DC240 Zoom Digital Camera(0x0120), Eastman Kodak Company(0x040a), rev 1.03 > > port 2 powered > > > > # ./usb_dump -c 1 -i -f /dev/ugen0 > > Product: KODAK DC240 Zoom Digital Camera > > Vendor: Eastman Kodak Company > > address 2 > > > > # ./usb_dump -c 1 -d -f /dev/ugen0 > > DEVICE descriptor: > > bLength=18 bDescriptorType=1 bcdUSB=1.00 bDeviceClass=0 bDeviceSubClass=0 > > bDeviceProtocol=0 bMaxPacketSize=8 > > idVendor=0x040a idProduct=0x0120 bcdDevice=103 > > iManufacturer=1 iProduct=2 iSerialNumber=0 bNumConfigurations=1 > > > > CONFIGURATION descriptor: > > bLength=9 bDescriptorType=2 wTotalLength=32 bNumInterface=1 > > bConfigurationValue=1 iConfiguration=0 bmAttributes=40 bMaxPower=100 mA > > > > INTERFACE descriptor index 0: > > bLength=9 bDescriptorType=4 bInterfaceNumber=0 bAlternateSetting=0 > > bNumEndpoints=2 bInterfaceClass=0 bInterfaceSubClass=0 > > bInterfaceProtocol=0 iInterface=0 > > > > ENDPOINT descriptor index 0: > > bLength=7 bDescriptorType=5 bEndpointAddress=1-out > > bmAttributes=2 wMaxPacketSize=64 bInterval=0 > > > > ENDPOINT descriptor index 1: > > bLength=7 bDescriptorType=5 bEndpointAddress=2-in > > bmAttributes=2 wMaxPacketSize=64 bInterval=0 > > > > # ./usb_dump -c 1 -D -f /dev/ugen0 > > DEVICE descriptor: > > bLength=18 bDescriptorType=1 bcdUSB=1.00 bDeviceClass=0 bDeviceSubClass=0 > > bDeviceProtocol=0 bMaxPacketSize=8 > > idVendor=0x040a idProduct=0x0120 bcdDevice=103 > > iManufacturer=1 iProduct=2 iSerialNumber=0 bNumConfigurations=1 > > > > Current configuration is number 1 > > > > CONFIGURATION descriptor index 0: > > bLength=9 bDescriptorType=2 wTotalLength=32 bNumInterface=1 > > bConfigurationValue=1 iConfiguration=0 bmAttributes=40 bMaxPower=100 mA > > > > INTERFACE descriptor index 0, alt index 0: > > bLength=9 bDescriptorType=4 bInterfaceNumber=0 bAlternateSetting=0 > > bNumEndpoints=2 bInterfaceClass=0 bInterfaceSubClass=0 > > bInterfaceProtocol=0 iInterface=0 > > > > ENDPOINT descriptor index 0: > > bLength=7 bDescriptorType=5 bEndpointAddress=1-out > > bmAttributes=2 wMaxPacketSize=64 bInterval=0 > > > > ENDPOINT descriptor index 1: > > bLength=7 bDescriptorType=5 bEndpointAddress=2-in > > bmAttributes=2 wMaxPacketSize=64 bInterval=0 > > -- > Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany > (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) > > "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" > (Terry Pratchett) > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > > -- ISIS/STA, T.P.270, Joint Research Centre, 21020 Ispra, Italy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Jul 29 1:46:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from ns.skylink.it (ns.skylink.it [194.177.113.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB0114FA8 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 01:46:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dirkx@webweaving.org) Received: from kim.ispra.webweaving.org (va-135.skylink.it [194.185.55.135]) by ns.skylink.it (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA11228; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 10:44:36 +0200 Received: from kim.ispra.webweaving.org (kim.ispra.webweaving.org [10.0.0.2]) by kim.ispra.webweaving.org (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA02511; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 08:33:10 GMT X-Passed: MX on Ispra.WebWeaving.org Thu, 29 Jul 1999 08:33:10 GMT and masked X-No-Spam: Neither the receipients nor the senders email address(s) are to be used for Unsolicited (Commercial) Email without the explicit written consent of either party; as a per-message fee is incurred for inbound and outbound traffic to the originator. Posted-Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 08:33:10 GMT Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 10:33:10 +0200 (CEST) From: Dirk-Willem van Gulik X-Sender: dirkx@kim.ispra.webweaving.org To: USB BSD list Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [usb-bsd] Re: USB support for Kodak DC240 (umass)? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 29 Jul 1999, Nick Hibma wrote: > The spec is under NDA? If not, could you either tell me where you got it > or send me a copy by mail? Just go to developer at kodak.com and register yourself. After a few days wait you'll have access to the lot. Dw. > Cheers, > > Nick Hibma > > > On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > > > OK, I got the interface specification for the Kodak DC240. > > > > They write that there was no standardized USB protocol for > > digital still cameras when they designed the DC240, so they > > simply use the same protocol for both serial (RS232) and > > USB. > > > > The protocol is pretty well documented, it is a sequence of > > command, data, result and status packets. > > > > I'd be willing to try writing a driver for this, but the > > problem is, I have no clue about USB. I don't know how to > > send a "packet" to an USB device at all. Is there some > > documentation about such basic USB things? Sending data > > to some serial RS232 device is easy, but how do I do that > > to an USB device? > > > > In theory, it would be possible to write a filesystem driver > > for this camera (it has commands to retrieve directory and > > file data from the CompactFlash card, which is basically a > > FAT filesystem). But I think this would not be worth the > > effort. I'd be just happy to have a userland tool that can > > get an "ls" and the actual JPEG images from the camera. > > > > Regards > > Oliver > > > > PS: This camera is just great, I love it! > > > > > > > # usbdevs -v > > > Controller /dev/usb0: > > > addr 1: self powered, config 1, UHCI root hub(0x0000), Intel(0x0000), rev 1.00 > > > port 1 addr 2: self powered, config 1, KODAK DC240 Zoom Digital Camera(0x0120), Eastman Kodak Company(0x040a), rev 1.03 > > > port 2 powered > > > > > > # ./usb_dump -c 1 -i -f /dev/ugen0 > > > Product: KODAK DC240 Zoom Digital Camera > > > Vendor: Eastman Kodak Company > > > address 2 > > > > > > # ./usb_dump -c 1 -d -f /dev/ugen0 > > > DEVICE descriptor: > > > bLength=18 bDescriptorType=1 bcdUSB=1.00 bDeviceClass=0 bDeviceSubClass=0 > > > bDeviceProtocol=0 bMaxPacketSize=8 > > > idVendor=0x040a idProduct=0x0120 bcdDevice=103 > > > iManufacturer=1 iProduct=2 iSerialNumber=0 bNumConfigurations=1 > > > > > > CONFIGURATION descriptor: > > > bLength=9 bDescriptorType=2 wTotalLength=32 bNumInterface=1 > > > bConfigurationValue=1 iConfiguration=0 bmAttributes=40 bMaxPower=100 mA > > > > > > INTERFACE descriptor index 0: > > > bLength=9 bDescriptorType=4 bInterfaceNumber=0 bAlternateSetting=0 > > > bNumEndpoints=2 bInterfaceClass=0 bInterfaceSubClass=0 > > > bInterfaceProtocol=0 iInterface=0 > > > > > > ENDPOINT descriptor index 0: > > > bLength=7 bDescriptorType=5 bEndpointAddress=1-out > > > bmAttributes=2 wMaxPacketSize=64 bInterval=0 > > > > > > ENDPOINT descriptor index 1: > > > bLength=7 bDescriptorType=5 bEndpointAddress=2-in > > > bmAttributes=2 wMaxPacketSize=64 bInterval=0 > > > > > > # ./usb_dump -c 1 -D -f /dev/ugen0 > > > DEVICE descriptor: > > > bLength=18 bDescriptorType=1 bcdUSB=1.00 bDeviceClass=0 bDeviceSubClass=0 > > > bDeviceProtocol=0 bMaxPacketSize=8 > > > idVendor=0x040a idProduct=0x0120 bcdDevice=103 > > > iManufacturer=1 iProduct=2 iSerialNumber=0 bNumConfigurations=1 > > > > > > Current configuration is number 1 > > > > > > CONFIGURATION descriptor index 0: > > > bLength=9 bDescriptorType=2 wTotalLength=32 bNumInterface=1 > > > bConfigurationValue=1 iConfiguration=0 bmAttributes=40 bMaxPower=100 mA > > > > > > INTERFACE descriptor index 0, alt index 0: > > > bLength=9 bDescriptorType=4 bInterfaceNumber=0 bAlternateSetting=0 > > > bNumEndpoints=2 bInterfaceClass=0 bInterfaceSubClass=0 > > > bInterfaceProtocol=0 iInterface=0 > > > > > > ENDPOINT descriptor index 0: > > > bLength=7 bDescriptorType=5 bEndpointAddress=1-out > > > bmAttributes=2 wMaxPacketSize=64 bInterval=0 > > > > > > ENDPOINT descriptor index 1: > > > bLength=7 bDescriptorType=5 bEndpointAddress=2-in > > > bmAttributes=2 wMaxPacketSize=64 bInterval=0 > > > > -- > > Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany > > (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) > > > > "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" > > (Terry Pratchett) > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Jul 29 10:34:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from cod.progroup.com (cod.progroup.com [207.44.190.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1141114D53 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 10:34:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from craig@cod.progroup.com) Received: (from craig@localhost) by cod.progroup.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id KAA14009; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 10:29:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from craig) From: "Craig W. Shaver" Message-Id: <199907291729.KAA14009@cod.progroup.com> Subject: Re: (Hillbilly PC's aka dual cpu, overclocked celeries In-Reply-To: <199907290111.VAA02280@gaboon.imcinternet.net> from Stan Voket at "Jul 28, 1999 9:11:33 pm" To: asv@gaboon.imcinternet.net (Stan Voket) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 10:29:37 -0700 (PDT) Cc: craig@cod.progroup.com (Craig W. Shaver), freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >Craig, > >I'm interested in getting in touch with the guys at >http://www.advanceddesignky.com/ but I'll be darned if I can find their >telephone number on the web page. Would you send it to me please? > >Thanks for the help, > >Please keep all us FreeBSD ers informed of the performance of you new >board. > >Best, > >Stan > >-- > - Stan Voket, asv@gaboon.imcinternet.net - http://gaboon.imcinternet.net - > "If you think you can, or you can't; you are _always_ right!" > Ok, sorry about that. I got the number from the listing at price watch. http://www.pricewatch.com/ Go to motherboards, then no cpu dual. On page 2 of the search results: Advanced Design of Kentucky 888-785-6848 606-746-2779 They are one of the cheapest for the ABIT BP6 and mention overclocking in their blurb. -- Craig Shaver, Productivity Group POB 60458 Sunnyvale, CA 94088 (650)390-0654 http://www.progroup.com/ mailto:craig@progroup.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Jul 29 12:26:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [207.239.68.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EAE61513F; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:26:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsdlist@federation.addy.com) Received: from localhost (fbsdlist@localhost) by federation.addy.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA00244; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:25:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:25:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Cliff Addy To: MIHIRA Yoshiro Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linksys EtherFast card In-Reply-To: <199907290206.LAA22722@lavender.yy.cs.keio.ac.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 29 Jul 1999, MIHIRA Yoshiro wrote: > If your Linksys Ethernet card uses MX chip(Macronix)[1] (LNE100TX-V2), > please use with mx driver. > If it uses LINKSYS Lite-On chip[2] (LNE100TX-JP) , try with pn driver. Wow, thanks for such a thorough answer, pictures and everything! Unfortunately, the cards we've got don't seem to be using either of these chips. The chip is marked as LNE100TX, no -anything. But, thanks again anyway. Cliff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Jul 29 14: 3: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from gaboon.imcinternet.net (gaboon.nai.net [192.150.121.225]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6269015195 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 14:02:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asv@gaboon.imcinternet.net) Received: from localhost (asv@localhost) by gaboon.imcinternet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA24501; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:02:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from asv@gaboon.imcinternet.net) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:02:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Stan Voket To: "Craig W. Shaver" Cc: "Craig W. Shaver" , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (Hillbilly PC's aka dual cpu, overclocked celeries In-Reply-To: <199907291729.KAA14009@cod.progroup.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 29 Jul 1999, Craig W. Shaver wrote: > > > >Craig, > > > >I'm interested in getting in touch with the guys at > >http://www.advanceddesignky.com/ but I'll be darned if I can find their > >telephone number on the web page. Would you send it to me please? > > > >Thanks for the help, > > > >Please keep all us FreeBSD ers informed of the performance of you new > >board. > > > >Best, > > > >Stan > > > >-- > > - Stan Voket, asv@gaboon.imcinternet.net - http://gaboon.imcinternet.net - > > "If you think you can, or you can't; you are _always_ right!" > > > > Ok, sorry about that. I got the number from the listing at price watch. > > http://www.pricewatch.com/ > > Go to motherboards, then no cpu dual. > > On page 2 of the search results: > > Advanced Design of Kentucky 888-785-6848 606-746-2779 > > > They are one of the cheapest for the ABIT BP6 and mention overclocking in > their blurb. > > Thanks Craig! I ordered a setup just like yours! What release of Freebsd will you run? I need to configure a RAID 5 for this too. Any suggestions? Thanks again, Stan -- - Stan Voket, asv@gaboon.imcinternet.net - http://gaboon.imcinternet.net - "If you think you can, or you can't; you are _always_ right!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Jul 29 17: 5: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from sammy.tibco.com (sammy.TIBCO.COM [192.216.111.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7F4D1572C for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:04:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aram@tibco.com) Received: from osgood.tibco.com (osgood.tibco.com [160.101.240.42]) by sammy.tibco.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA13740 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:04:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from venus.tibco.com (venus.tibco.com [160.101.240.40]) by osgood.tibco.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA01043 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:05:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tibco.com ([160.101.22.192]) by venus.tibco.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA51F2; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:00:50 -0700 Message-ID: <37A0EC4B.A09B58A@tibco.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:05:31 -0700 From: "Aram Compeau" Organization: TIBCO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Craig W. Shaver" Cc: Stan Voket , "Craig W. Shaver" , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: (Hillbilly PC's aka dual cpu, overclocked celeries References: <199907291729.KAA14009@cod.progroup.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just FYI, for pricewatch (which I use all the time, also), keep two things in mind: 1. shady vendors... Some vendors list really low prices on pricewatch, but then make up the difference with ridiculous shipping fees (Upgrade Source is a prime example of this). Also, some are known to sell remarked CPUs, and even 66MHz SDRAM as PC100 SDRAM... :-(... (go here to check vendor ratings: http://www.resellerratings.com/a.html - note that Advanced Design of Kentucky isn't listed, new maybe?). At the very least, don't give your CC # until you get shipping quoted. 2. The search text box is your friend. :-) Typing in "abit bp6" and hitting search will normally take less time than the 'drill-down' mouse navigation (at least in my experience). Regards, Aram "Craig W. Shaver" wrote: > > > >Craig, > > > >I'm interested in getting in touch with the guys at > >http://www.advanceddesignky.com/ but I'll be darned if I can find their > >telephone number on the web page. Would you send it to me please? > > > >Thanks for the help, > > > >Please keep all us FreeBSD ers informed of the performance of you new > >board. > > > >Best, > > > >Stan > > > >-- > > - Stan Voket, asv@gaboon.imcinternet.net - http://gaboon.imcinternet.net - > > "If you think you can, or you can't; you are _always_ right!" > > > > Ok, sorry about that. I got the number from the listing at price watch. > > http://www.pricewatch.com/ > > Go to motherboards, then no cpu dual. > > On page 2 of the search results: > > Advanced Design of Kentucky 888-785-6848 606-746-2779 > > They are one of the cheapest for the ABIT BP6 and mention overclocking in > their blurb. > > -- > Craig Shaver, Productivity Group > POB 60458 Sunnyvale, CA 94088 (650)390-0654 > http://www.progroup.com/ mailto:craig@progroup.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Jul 29 17:11:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from cod.progroup.com (cod.progroup.com [207.44.190.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1240E14D64 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:11:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from craig@cod.progroup.com) Received: (from craig@localhost) by cod.progroup.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id RAA14984; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:06:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from craig) From: "Craig W. Shaver" Message-Id: <199907300006.RAA14984@cod.progroup.com> Subject: Re: (Hillbilly PC's aka dual cpu, overclocked celeries In-Reply-To: from Stan Voket at "Jul 29, 1999 5: 2:38 pm" To: asv@gaboon.imcinternet.net (Stan Voket) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:06:35 -0700 (PDT) Cc: "Craig W. Shaver"@cod.progroup.com, , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >On Thu, 29 Jul 1999, Craig W. Shaver wrote: > >> > >> >Craig, >> > >> >I'm interested in getting in touch with the guys at del .... >> >> >Thanks Craig! I ordered a setup just like yours! What release of Freebsd >will you run? I need to configure a RAID 5 for this too. Any >suggestions? > >Thanks again, > >Stan > > >-- > - Stan Voket, asv@gaboon.imcinternet.net - http://gaboon.imcinternet.net - > "If you think you can, or you can't; you are _always_ right!" > I will probably test it with 3.2 first. I am not sure which of the FreeBSD releases supports SMP the best. However, I am sorry to say that I will be forced to use Slowaris 2.6 and Disksuite 4.1 in production. This is because I am running an Oracle database, and they do not support FreeBSD. I wish I could use the Linux code on FreeBSD, but that will come. I don't think the current Oracle on Linux is supported or production at this time either. I wish Oracle would just do the client side libraries for FreeBSD, and others like it. For the most part I use FreeBSD on the front end and Sun's on the backend, and I need a database connection from my frontend to the backend. Anyway .... I will let you know what happens ... -- Craig Shaver, Productivity Group POB 60458 Sunnyvale, CA 94088 (650)390-0654 http://www.progroup.com/ mailto:craig@progroup.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Jul 30 8:45:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mailserv.wright.edu (mailserv.wright.edu [130.108.128.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FBC6156CE for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 08:45:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from loree.3@wright.edu) Received: from wright.edu (ss180049.wright.edu) by mailserv.wright.edu (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3101) with ESMTP id <0FFO005CWX2N8X@mailserv.wright.edu> for freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:44:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:43:40 -0400 From: Andrew Loree Subject: 100Mhz Bus To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <37A1C82C.1FF47F89@wright.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is not really freebsd related, but I just ordered a K-6 3D Now! 400 cpu, and, not really thinking about it, I am still using 128 MB of good old EDO ram. Do I need 100 mhz memory to use this cpu? Or does it depended upon the mb I am using (FIC VA503+ super baby 7). Signed, Mr. Stupid _______________________________________________________________________ Andrew Loree loree.3@wright.edu Wright State University http://www.wright.edu/ Campus Wide Information Systems (937) 775-2185 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Jul 30 9: 8:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from c004.sfo.cp.net (c004-h005.c004.sfo.cp.net [209.228.14.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5755115720 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:08:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jason@intercom.com) Received: (cpmta 9743 invoked from network); 30 Jul 1999 09:06:50 -0700 Received: from shagalicious.com (HELO intercom.com) (206.98.165.250) by smtp.intercom.com with SMTP; 30 Jul 1999 09:06:50 -0700 X-Sent: 30 Jul 1999 16:06:50 GMT Message-ID: <37A1CD96.27B095C9@intercom.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:06:46 -0400 From: "Jason J. Horton" Organization: Intercom Online Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: HP 6020i troubles w/ cdrecord Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am having trouble with a CDR on -STABLE cd0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 3.300MB/s transfers cd0: cd present [336225 x 2048 byte records] # cdrecord dev=0,4,0 /root/isotest.iso Cdrecord release 1.8a22 Copyright (C) 1995-1999 Jörg Schilling scsidev: '0,4,0' scsibus: 0 target: 4 lun: 0 cdrecord: Cannot do inquiry for CD/DVD-Recorder. cdrecord: Input/output error. test unit ready: scsi sendcmd: retryable error CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 status: 0x0 (GOOD STATUS) cmd finished after 0.000s timeout 40s cdrecord: The unit seems to be hung and needs power cycling. # uname -a FreeBSD jason.intercom.com 3.2-STABLE FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #10: Fri Jul 30 11:50:21 EDT 1999 root@jason.intercom.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/JASON i386 I am using an HP 6020i on an Adaptec 2940UW (on the scsi-2 bus) on FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE using CAM (passthru driver, posix scheduling enabled, etc) -- -Jason J. Horton Moving Target Intercom Online Inc. 212.378.2202 | http://www.intercom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Jul 30 9:27:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.kdm.org (panzer.kdm.org [216.160.178.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7303415180 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:27:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.kdm.org) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.kdm.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA37549; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:25:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ken) Message-Id: <199907301625.KAA37549@panzer.kdm.org> Subject: Re: HP 6020i troubles w/ cdrecord In-Reply-To: <37A1CD96.27B095C9@intercom.com> from "Jason J. Horton" at "Jul 30, 1999 12:06:46 pm" To: jason@intercom.com (Jason J. Horton) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:25:07 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Kenneth D. Merry" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jason J. Horton wrote... > I am having trouble with a CDR on -STABLE > > cd0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 > cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device > cd0: 3.300MB/s transfers > cd0: cd present [336225 x 2048 byte records] > > # cdrecord dev=0,4,0 /root/isotest.iso > Cdrecord release 1.8a22 Copyright (C) 1995-1999 J_rg Schilling > scsidev: '0,4,0' > scsibus: 0 target: 4 lun: 0 > cdrecord: Cannot do inquiry for CD/DVD-Recorder. > cdrecord: Input/output error. test unit ready: scsi sendcmd: retryable > error > CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 > status: 0x0 (GOOD STATUS) > cmd finished after 0.000s timeout 40s > cdrecord: The unit seems to be hung and needs power cycling. > > # uname -a > FreeBSD jason.intercom.com 3.2-STABLE FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #10: Fri Jul 30 > 11:50:21 EDT 1999 root@jason.intercom.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/JASON > i386 > > I am using an HP 6020i on an Adaptec 2940UW (on the scsi-2 bus) on > FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE > using CAM (passthru driver, posix scheduling enabled, etc) Hmm, that doesn't look good. Try the following: camcontrol devlist camcontrol tur cd0 -v camcontrol inquiry cd0 -v cdrecord -scanbus cdrecord dev=0,4,0 -inq -v Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Jul 30 9:54:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from george.lbl.gov (george.lbl.gov [131.243.2.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 667A9151C3 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:54:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jin@george.lbl.gov) Received: (from jin@localhost) by george.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.2) id JAA19656; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:51:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:51:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199907301651.JAA19656@george.lbl.gov> From: jin@george.lbl.gov To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, loree.3@wright.edu Subject: Re: 100Mhz Bus Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It really depends on what is your goal. Unless you have entire I/O related apps for most time as system running. See the middle column in Table-9 on P.9 www-itg.lbl/gov/~jin/performance.pen.ps You do need PC-100 for the 100 MHz bus, but not for the CPU. That is what cache is there. -Jin loree.3@wright.edu wrote: > This is not really freebsd related, but I just ordered a K-6 3D Now! 400 > cpu, and, not really thinking about it, I am still using 128 MB of good > old EDO ram. Do I need 100 mhz memory to use this cpu? Or does it > depended upon the mb I am using (FIC VA503+ super baby 7). > > Signed, > Mr. Stupid To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Jul 30 10: 6:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from Samizdat.uucom.com (samizdat.uucom.com [198.202.217.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D3B6151C3 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:06:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cshenton@uucom.com) Received: (from cshenton@localhost) by Samizdat.uucom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA27967; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:05:59 -0400 (EDT) To: Andrew Loree Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 100Mhz Bus References: <37A1C82C.1FF47F89@wright.edu> User-Agent: SEMI/1.13.3 (Komaiko) FLIM/1.12.5 (Hirahata) Emacs/20.3 (i386-pc-solaris2.7) MULE/4.0 (HANANOEN) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.3 - "Komaiko") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Chris Shenton Date: 30 Jul 1999 13:05:59 -0400 In-Reply-To: Andrew Loree's message of "Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:43:40 -0400" Message-ID: Lines: 20 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/Emacs 20.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:43:40 -0400, Andrew Loree said: Andrew> This is not really freebsd related, but I just ordered a K-6 Andrew> 3D Now! 400 cpu, and, not really thinking about it, I am still Andrew> using 128 MB of good old EDO ram. Do I need 100 mhz memory to Andrew> use this cpu? Or does it depended upon the mb I am using (FIC Andrew> VA503+ super baby 7). To get maximum throughput on the bus you should use "PC-100" memory. The FIC you mention has boatloads of jumbers so you can run the system and memory busses at different speeds and take advantage of your old memory. The FIC docs that come with the mobo talk about this (in a confusing and less-than-perfectly-helpful way). You chould check the FIC mobo newsgroup. Lots of info there on this. I've been running a K6/2-300 on FIC503+ for about a year now with no problems. Well, except the onboard bios doesn't grok SCSI so I couldn't boot from my scsi drives, and I don't do IDE :-(. Someone pointed me to a SCSI bios shim image and procedures to add it to your bios, then reflash and it's been working fine. (what a hack!) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Jul 30 14:49:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from charlotte.geac.com (charlotte.geac.com [208.144.226.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2381414E24 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:49:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from n.spence@geac.com) Received: (qmail 29769 invoked from network); 30 Jul 1999 21:47:42 -0000 Received: from aramis.geac.com (HELO b21bis.clsi.us.geac.com) (208.144.226.1) by 192.168.226.130 with SMTP; 30 Jul 1999 21:47:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 23944 invoked from network); 30 Jul 1999 21:47:33 -0000 Received: from exchange.eci.us.geac.com (HELO ilpostino.eci.us.geac.com) (192.168.70.13) by b21bis.us.geac.com with SMTP; 30 Jul 1999 21:47:33 -0000 Received: by exchange.eci.us.geac.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:49:28 -0700 Message-ID: <85D42D7EE2DAD2119CD400A0C9E1004F64F650@exchange.eci.us.geac.com> From: Nikolaus Spence To: "'freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org'" Subject: EISA DPT raid controllers Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:49:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org is there anything special I would need to do to probe an EISA DPT raid controller at startup? There's nothing in the visual kernal config for it except under PCI. ----- Nikolaus Spence Senior Software Support Programmer/Analyst GEAC Computers, Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Jul 30 18:14:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [63.67.141.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF35714CD3 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 18:14:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA25265; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 21:13:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 21:13:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: Nikolaus Spence Cc: "'freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: EISA DPT raid controllers In-Reply-To: <85D42D7EE2DAD2119CD400A0C9E1004F64F650@exchange.eci.us.geac.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 30 Jul 1999, Nikolaus Spence wrote: > is there anything special I would need to do to probe an EISA DPT raid > controller at startup? There's nothing in the visual kernal config > for it except under PCI. Well... Heres the deal. The DPT EISA controllers appear to need some sort of frobbing outside of what FreeBSD does to allow their config registers to be read as specified by the EISA .cfg file that ships with them. I've been unable to find out exactly what this sequence is. So the DPT EISA driver in the system is more or less broken. However. I have a hacked up dpt_eisa.c file that gets around this. What version of FreeBSD are you running and what is the model # of your card? -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | This Space For Rent | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Jul 31 11:58:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E16214D41; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 11:58:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-47.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.47]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA26070; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:57:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id PAA04388; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 15:00:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 15:00:24 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: multimedia@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Subject: 3D board for XFree86 GLX - Please recommend Message-ID: <19990731150024.A3979@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm looking for recommendations for a good 3D board (PCI) that has 2D & 3D hardware support in the new XFree86 pre-4.0 release. I'd prefer that it support 3D-in-a-window and >= 1280x1024 resolution. Voodoo3? Riva128? RivaTNT? Comments on any board would be appreciated. Thanks, Randall Hopper aa8vb@ipass.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Jul 31 13: 4: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.netcologne.de (mail2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A6CF14C3B; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:04:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Received: from oranje.my.domain (dial5-89.netcologne.de [194.8.195.89]) by mail2.netcologne.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA04998; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 22:02:30 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from marc@localhost) by oranje.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA00709; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 22:00:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 22:00:49 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199907312000.WAA00709@oranje.my.domain> X-Authentication-Warning: oranje.my.domain: marc set sender to van.woerkom@netcologne.de using -f From: Marc van Woerkom To: aa8vb@ipass.net Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <19990731150024.A3979@ipass.net> (message from Randall Hopper on Sat, 31 Jul 1999 15:00:24 -0400) Subject: Re: 3D board for XFree86 GLX - Please recommend Reply-To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de References: <19990731150024.A3979@ipass.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I'm looking for recommendations for a good 3D board (PCI) that has 2D > & 3D hardware support in the new XFree86 pre-4.0 release. I'd prefer that > it support 3D-in-a-window and >= 1280x1024 resolution. Voodoo3? Riva128? > RivaTNT? The current snapshot 3.9.15 does only feature a limited set of cards. E.g. no RIVA (nv) chipset drivers yet. (*) Study these links: http://www.xfree86.org/releaseplans.html http://www.xfree86.org/snapshots/ http://www.xfree86.org/snapshots/3.9.15/RELNOTES.html I would be very supprised if the nvidia chips would get no XF 4 support. Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Jul 31 15:15:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B1814E61; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 15:15:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA11281; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:13:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Message-Id: <199907312213.SAA11281@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Randall Hopper Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: 3D board for XFree86 GLX - Please recommend References: <19990731150024.A3979@ipass.net> In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 31 Jul 1999 15:00:24 EDT." <19990731150024.A3979@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:13:45 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I'm looking for recommendations for a good 3D board (PCI) that has 2D > & 3D hardware support in the new XFree86 pre-4.0 release. I'd prefer that > it support 3D-in-a-window and >= 1280x1024 resolution. Voodoo3? Riva128? > RivaTNT? Just today I put a Matrox G400 in my FreeBSD box, and am running the XFree86 3.3.4 server. Seems to work well for 2D stuff. I'm also playing around right now with some GLX-based 3D in a window stuff with this board. The Matrox seems to be pretty well supported by the folks doing the Mesa-in-the-X-server work (http://glx.on.openprojects.net/) I wend with the G400 rather than the RivaTNT since the current GLX support for the TNT only works in 15/16 bits per pixel, and I really wanted a 24/32 bit deep display. So far, so good. Only got the X server to hang once :-) Seriously, I now need to make sure that I'm using the recommended version of Mesa for the loadable module in the X server (rather than what was laying around in my ports directory). But it's not doomed to be completely busted since I got the OpenGL screensaves in xlock to go *really* fast compared to software rendering. louie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message