From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Aug 22 3:53:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from anubis.rcanaria.es (anubis.rcanaria.es [193.146.80.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD7AE14CD5 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 03:53:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oascanio@tavius.com) Received: from tavius.com (ntlpa.icid.rcanaria.es [193.146.80.147]) by anubis.rcanaria.es (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05891 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 11:52:05 +0100 (BST) Received: from Spooler by tavius.com (Mercury/32 v2.14); 22 Aug 99 12:50:13 +0100 Received: from spooler by tavius.com (Mercury/32 v2.14); 22 Aug 99 12:50:05 +0100 Received: from admin (193.146.92.133) by tavius.com (Mercury/32 v2.14); 22 Aug 99 12:49:54 +0100 Message-ID: <000801beec8b$80457f00$855c92c1@rcanaria.es> From: "Octavio Ascanio" To: Subject: Drivers of Digiboard Sync 570i PCI Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 11:45:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEEC93.E1A531C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEEC93.E1A531C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello: Is there any support for the Digiboard SYNC570i PCI board under = FreeBSD?? If yes, how can I configure the kernel for using this board. =20 Thanks in advance. Octavio. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEEC93.E1A531C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
   Hello:
 
   Is there any support for = the Digiboard=20 SYNC570i PCI board under FreeBSD??
   If yes, how can I = configure the kernel=20 for using this board.
 
   Thanks in = advance.
   Octavio.
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEEC93.E1A531C0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Aug 22 13:38:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from reliam.teaser.fr (reliam.teaser.fr [194.51.80.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F61114CE4 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 13:38:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsouch@teaser.fr) Received: from teaser.fr (ppp1087-ft.teaser.fr [194.206.156.40]) by reliam.teaser.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA15964; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 22:38:30 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from nsouch@localhost) by teaser.fr (8.9.3/8.9.1) id WAA01612; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 22:41:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nsouch) Message-ID: <19990822224114.44221@breizh.teaser.fr> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 22:41:14 +0200 From: Nicolas Souchu To: Duncan Spooner Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Parallel Zip Drive on FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE References: <003b01bee10b$07297580$0100a8c0@duncan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81e In-Reply-To: <003b01bee10b$07297580$0100a8c0@duncan>; from Duncan Spooner on Sat, Aug 07, 1999 at 08:28:02PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD breizh 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Aug 07, 1999 at 08:28:02PM +0100, Duncan Spooner wrote: > >I have a parallel port Iomega Zip Drive. I have installed 3.2-RELEASE and >although the vpo0 is detected it does not see da0, and when I try "mount -t >msdos /dev/da0s4 /mnt" it gives me the error message "msdos: /dev/da0s4: >Device not configured". > >I have added scbus0 and da0 to the kernel as well. > >Below is a copy of the dmesg from the most recent boot. > >If wanted I can post the kernel configuration file as well. > >Many Thanks. > Try to change your parallel port bios settings. And tell me. Nicholas -- nsouch@teaser.fr / nsouch@freebsd.org FreeBSD - Turning PCs into workstations - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Aug 22 17:35: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from enya.clari.net.au (enya.clari.net.au [203.8.14.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A6F514C23 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 17:34:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danny@enya.clari.net.au) Received: from localhost (danny@localhost) by enya.clari.net.au (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA30374 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:32:31 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from danny@enya.clari.net.au) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:32:31 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Constant lockups with Adaptec SCSI Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a PII with an Adaptec 2940 U/UW with two Seagate 4.3 GB Hawk disks. OS is 3.2-RELEASE. It locks up regularly, in a state where disk-based activity is frozen and non-disk activity is fine. It will still pass packets, but squid ceases to function. telnet gives 'connected' and never proceeds. What should I replace to get this beast functioning properly? Use IDE disk? New motherboard? New OS release? New OS (blech!) or new scsi controller? Thanks, Danny To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Aug 23 7:11: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mail-smtp.socket.net (mail-smtp.socket.net [216.106.1.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBC5114DC2 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 07:11:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vaevictus@socket.net) Received: from mail.socket.net (mail.socket.net [216.106.1.7]) by mail-smtp.socket.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA32336 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 22:11:53 -0500 Received: from tcc ([216.106.0.22]) by mail.socket.net ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 07:50:45 -0600 From: "Vaevictus Asmadi" To: Subject: RE: Hardware Compatibility Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 09:06:58 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <19990821100225.F87145@forty-two.egroups.net> X-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >On Sat, Aug 21, 1999 at 12:36:23PM -0400, up@3.am wrote: >> On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Gregory Sutter wrote: >> > On Sat, Aug 21, 1999 at 11:24:30AM +0000, gimp@netnet.com.sg wrote: >> > > >> > > I will be setting up a server running on FreeBSD 3.2 soon. The server >> > > will have the following hardware: >> > > >> > > 1. Intel 440GX Mainboard with: >> > > Intel 82558 Fast Ethernet 10/100 >> > > 2. Mylex BT958 SCSI host controller >> > > 3. DAC960SX SCSI-to-SCSI disk array controller 5 channels 16MB RAM > >> Hmmm...the only hardware RAID drivers for FreeBSD I've seen any mention of >> are for DPT. > >With SCSI<-->SCSI RAID controllers, you don't need drivers. The RAID >controller just sits on the SCSI bus and does its work. Typically it >appears to the OS as just one big disk, although that is of course >configurable based on the number of volumes that are configured in >the RAID. I've had good luck with the Infortrend SCSI-SCSI RAID >controllers, which are less expensive than most. Uhmmm... Well... Has ANYONE been able to boot FreeBSD w/ *ANY* DAC960's? I have been told that DAC960's are not supported. I've also not been able to boot a freebsd machine with mylex drives attached.... I'm using linux on the machines that have the controllers. vaevictus@socket.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Aug 23 7:37:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from longacre.demon.co.uk (longacre.demon.co.uk [158.152.156.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C5214BCE for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 07:37:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from searle@longacre.demon.co.uk) Received: (from searle@localhost) by longacre.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA37106; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:34:44 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from searle) Message-ID: <19990823153444.29882@longacre.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:34:44 +0100 From: Michael Searle To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: performance of home automation hardware Reply-To: searle@longacre.demon.co.uk Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What home automation hardware should I use/avoid if I want it to be fast and reliable? Is anything connected directly to a PC's serial port (etc) OK? I would assume that this would work, with the tiny bandwidth needed for this. According to the web page though, HCS 2 modules are slooow ('several seconds on large networks') and unreliable, reading between the lines this is because they continuously poll all devices on a 9600bps net using a Z80. (Anything connected directly to the controller is OK, but most modules don't.) As the X-10 stuff is also slow and unreliable for doing more than switching devices on and off, this leaves me with CEBus (if I can find anything using it.) This is more reliable, but how fast is it? Also, has anyone got URLs where I can find more info about CEBus and available CEBus hardware? I couldn't find anything relevant on web searches, just PC interfaces. -- searle@longacre.demon.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Aug 23 8:52: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 244D014E75 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 08:51:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA59899; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:51:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Message-Id: <199908231551.LAA59899@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: searle@longacre.demon.co.uk Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: performance of home automation hardware References: <19990823153444.29882@longacre.demon.co.uk> In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 23 Aug 1999 15:34:44 BST." <19990823153444.29882@longacre.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:51:14 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > What home automation hardware should I use/avoid > if I want it to be fast and reliable? You need to decide what it you want to control. This sounds sort of silly on it's face, but lighting control is probably the least interesting application of the home automation stuff I've done. So in my case, it's served "well enough" using X10 power line control stuff. I just make it a point to only have non-critical functions on X10. Please don't take this the wrong way; less than 5% of my X10 traffic doesn't work correctly, and some of that is poor implementation rather than unreliablity of the medium. Some of it is bugs in the computer interface implementation with back-to-back traffic on the powerline. > Is anything connected directly to a PC's serial > port (etc) OK? I would assume that this would > work, with the tiny bandwidth needed for this. This works well for me. My 10 temperature probes and the connection to the PBX for caller-id and call detail records is via a serial port, as is the connection to X10's RF remote control/mouse thing. > According to the web page though, HCS 2 modules > are slooow ('several seconds on large networks') > and unreliable, reading between the lines this is > because they continuously poll all devices on a > 9600bps net using a Z80. (Anything connected > directly to the controller is OK, but most modules > don't.) If you use their modules, but not their controller, and you have multiple RS232->RS422 (I think) interface, you could poll them in parallel to speed this up. > As the X-10 stuff is also slow and unreliable for > doing more than switching devices on and off, this > leaves me with CEBus (if I can find anything using > it.) This is more reliable, but how fast is it? > Also, has anyone got URLs where I can find more info > about CEBus and available CEBus hardware? I > couldn't find anything relevant on web searches, > just PC interfaces. CEBus seems to be mostly vaporware, especially having to do with home applications. What little I've seen is an order of magnitude more expensive than X10. louie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Aug 23 12: 9:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from longacre.demon.co.uk (longacre.demon.co.uk [158.152.156.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508EA14F5A for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 12:09:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from searle@longacre.demon.co.uk) Received: (from searle@localhost) by longacre.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA02777; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:05:34 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from searle) Message-ID: <19990823200534.12953@longacre.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:05:34 +0100 From: Michael Searle To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: performance of home automation hardware Reply-To: searle@longacre.demon.co.uk Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org References: <19990823153444.29882@longacre.demon.co.uk> <199908231551.LAA59899@whizzo.transsys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <199908231551.LAA59899@whizzo.transsys.com>; from Louis A. Mamakos on Mon, Aug 23, 1999 at 11:51:14AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Aug 23, 1999 at 11:51:14AM -0400, Louis A. Mamakos wrote: > > > What home automation hardware should I use/avoid > > if I want it to be fast and reliable? > > You need to decide what it you want to control. This sounds sort > of silly on it's face, but lighting control is probably the > least interesting application of the home automation stuff I've > done. So in my case, it's served "well enough" using X10 power > line control stuff. I just make it a point to only have non-critical > functions on X10. Please don't take this the wrong way; less than 5% > of my X10 traffic doesn't work correctly, and some of that is poor > implementation rather than unreliablity of the medium. Some of it > is bugs in the computer interface implementation with back-to-back > traffic on the powerline. 5% sounds bad, but X10 doesn't do collisions - is some of it caused by this? (This can be worked around in a silly way by sending everything through the computer = 1 transmitter only.) You could also send commands more than once - for simple X10 at least, where two ON's is the same as one. It wouldn't seem any slower except for complex strings of commands, as normally the first one would work. X10 devices whose state can be read could be read after writing to confirm, although this may just introduce more errors. The HCS2-X10 interface deals with this by keeping a copy of the state of all X10 devices and refreshing them occasionally, or if the controller is reset. > > > Is anything connected directly to a PC's serial > > port (etc) OK? I would assume that this would > > work, with the tiny bandwidth needed for this. > > This works well for me. My 10 temperature probes and > the connection to the PBX for caller-id and call detail > records is via a serial port, as is the connection to > X10's RF remote control/mouse thing. > > > According to the web page though, HCS 2 modules > > are slooow ('several seconds on large networks') > > and unreliable, reading between the lines this is > > because they continuously poll all devices on a > > 9600bps net using a Z80. (Anything connected > > directly to the controller is OK, but most modules > > don't.) > > If you use their modules, but not their controller, and you > have multiple RS232->RS422 (I think) interface, you could > poll them in parallel to speed this up. This would be great - where can I get the interface? (It's RS485 BTW.) I wouldn't even need parallel interfaces - the slowness is from the Z80 (which will now be a 486 PC) and the software which continuously polls all devices. If I only check devices when I want the results, the 9600bps line shouldn't be a bottleneck (unless the half duplex RS485 is really slow to turn around.) -- searle@longacre.demon.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Aug 23 14:22:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from longacre.demon.co.uk (longacre.demon.co.uk [158.152.156.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AD2A14D6B for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:22:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from searle@longacre.demon.co.uk) Received: (from searle@localhost) by longacre.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA07413; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 22:18:46 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from searle) Message-ID: <19990823221846.03421@longacre.demon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 22:18:46 +0100 From: Michael Searle To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: video compression hardware Reply-To: searle@longacre.demon.co.uk Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is any video compression hardware (allowing AVI or MPEG video to be produced in real time) supported in FreeBSD? (I'm really looking for memory to memory compression, but a video-capture only compression card would do.) -- searle@longacre.demon.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Aug 23 20: 5:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from richard2.pil.net (richard2.pil.net [207.8.164.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BBE90156AD for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:05:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from up@pil.net) Received: (qmail 3261 invoked by uid 1825); 24 Aug 1999 03:05:17 -0000 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 23:05:17 -0400 (EDT) From: X-Sender: up@richard2.pil.net To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: hardware problem? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is the second time this has happened to me during a reboot on this recent install: >> FreeBSD/i386 BOOT Default: 0:da(0,a)[18;1f boot: login: [19;64f [19;52f [19;72f [20;1f No [20;1f (repeated several times) This is an Intel L440GX+ with 2 x 128MB ECC DIMMs and onboard Adaptec AIC-7896 SCSI and 3 IBM 9.1GB LVD Drives. Is this a memory error of some sort? The error comes right after the SCSI BIOS loads (regular memory check passes), so I'm wondering if it's a cache SIMM problem...the only thing that fixes it is a power-cycle. Any ideas? James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor up@3.am http://3.am ========================================================================= ISPF 3 - The Forum for ISPs by ISPs(tm) || Nov 15-17, 1999, New Orleans 3 days of clues, news, and views from the industry's best and brightest. Visit for information and registration. ========================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Aug 24 6:11: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from tolip.njin.net (tolip.njin.net [165.230.224.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36EE014CA5; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 06:10:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nagrosst@email.njin.net) Received: from MCCNNKPYDKOC05 ([192.135.209.43]) by tolip.njin.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA14134; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:05:42 -0400 (EDT) From: "David Nagrosst" To: , Subject: I have an alpha 2100, with a mylex 3 channel raid, are they supported? Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:14:44 -0400 Message-ID: <000201beee32$a2c8b2b0$01010101@MCCNNKPYDKOC05> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have an alpha 2100, with a mylex 3 channel raid controller, are they supported? If freebsd, which is my first choice does not, can anyone let me know what other free unix variant can support that configuration. Thanks, David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Aug 24 9:29:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (oreilly131.oreilly.mbaynet.com [206.55.242.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CCFC158C1; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:27:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00631; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:19:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199908241619.JAA00631@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "David Nagrosst" Cc: hardware@freebsd.org, alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I have an alpha 2100, with a mylex 3 channel raid, are they supported? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:14:44 EDT." <000201beee32$a2c8b2b0$01010101@MCCNNKPYDKOC05> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:19:50 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I have an alpha 2100, with a mylex 3 channel raid controller, are they > supported? > If freebsd, which is my first choice does not, can anyone let me know what > other free unix variant can support that configuration. If what you have is an AlphaServer 2100 (you need to learn to be much more precise in your questions) then Linux may support your system (but probably not the Mylex controller). Howver, I was unable to get it to boot on our AS2100 4/275, so ymmv. -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Aug 24 9:51: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from tolip.njin.net (tolip.njin.net [165.230.224.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5752215952; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:42:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nagrosst@email.njin.net) Received: from MCCNNKPYDKOC05 ([192.135.209.43]) by tolip.njin.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA21133; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:33:58 -0400 (EDT) From: "David Nagrosst" To: "'Mike Smith'" Cc: , Subject: RE: I have an alpha 2100, with a mylex 3 channel raid, are they supported? Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:43:02 -0400 Message-ID: <000601beee4f$bbea8ad0$01010101@MCCNNKPYDKOC05> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 In-Reply-To: <199908241619.JAA00631@dingo.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It's actually a 5/250, it's about 1 1/2 years old.. Nice machine, NT is running on it now, but I wanted to put a unix variant on it, to speed to up. David -----Original Message----- From: Mike Smith [mailto:mike@smith.net.au] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 12:20 PM To: David Nagrosst Cc: hardware@freebsd.org; alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I have an alpha 2100, with a mylex 3 channel raid, are they supported? > I have an alpha 2100, with a mylex 3 channel raid controller, are they > supported? > If freebsd, which is my first choice does not, can anyone let me know what > other free unix variant can support that configuration. If what you have is an AlphaServer 2100 (you need to learn to be much more precise in your questions) then Linux may support your system (but probably not the Mylex controller). Howver, I was unable to get it to boot on our AS2100 4/275, so ymmv. -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Aug 25 22:59:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E74614E65 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:59:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from semuta.feral.com (semuta [192.67.166.70]) by feral.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA25446 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:59:34 -0700 Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:59:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: what's the best working gigabit ether card... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org for FreeBSD these days? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Aug 26 8:16: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from longacre.demon.co.uk (longacre.demon.co.uk [158.152.156.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 307C715D64 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:14:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from searle@longacre.demon.co.uk) Received: (from searle@localhost) by longacre.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA41385; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:12:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from searle) Message-ID: <19990826161207.52569@longacre.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:12:07 +0100 From: Michael Searle To: "Louis A. Mamakos" Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: performance of home automation hardware Mail-Followup-To: "Louis A. Mamakos" , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19990823153444.29882@longacre.demon.co.uk> <199908231551.LAA59899@whizzo.transsys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <199908231551.LAA59899@whizzo.transsys.com>; from Louis A. Mamakos on Mon, Aug 23, 1999 at 11:51:14AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Aug 23, 1999 at 11:51:14AM -0400, Louis A. Mamakos wrote: > > > What home automation hardware should I use/avoid > > if I want it to be fast and reliable? > > You need to decide what it you want to control. This sounds sort > of silly on it's face, but lighting control is probably the > least interesting application of the home automation stuff I've > done. So in my case, it's served "well enough" using X10 power > line control stuff. I just make it a point to only have non-critical > functions on X10. Please don't take this the wrong way; less than 5% > of my X10 traffic doesn't work correctly, and some of that is poor > implementation rather than unreliablity of the medium. Some of it > is bugs in the computer interface implementation with back-to-back > traffic on the powerline. 5% sounds bad, but X10 doesn't do collisions - is some of it caused by this? (This can be worked around in a silly way by sending everything through the computer = 1 transmitter only.) You could also send commands more than once - for simple X10 at least, where two ON's is the same as one. It wouldn't seem any slower except for complex strings of commands, as normally the first one would work. X10 devices whose state can be read could be read after writing to confirm, although this may just introduce more errors. The HCS2-X10 interface deals with this by keeping a copy of the state of all X10 devices and refreshing them occasionally, or if the controller is reset. > > > According to the web page though, HCS 2 modules > > are slooow ('several seconds on large networks') > > and unreliable, reading between the lines this is > > because they continuously poll all devices on a > > 9600bps net using a Z80. (Anything connected > > directly to the controller is OK, but most modules > > don't.) > > If you use their modules, but not their controller, and you > have multiple RS232->RS422 (I think) interface, you could > poll them in parallel to speed this up. > This would be great, and I've found a RS232->RS485 interface. I wouldn't even need parallel interfaces - the slowness is from the Z80 (which will now be a 486 PC) and the software which continuously polls all devices. If I only check devices when I want the results, the 9600bps line shouldn't be a bottleneck (unless the half duplex RS485 is really slow to turn around.) -- searle@longacre.demon.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Aug 26 9: 0:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.kdm.org (panzer.kdm.org [216.160.178.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8274A15007 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:00:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.kdm.org) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.kdm.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA83092; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:58:37 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ken) Message-Id: <199908261558.JAA83092@panzer.kdm.org> Subject: Re: what's the best working gigabit ether card... In-Reply-To: from Matthew Jacob at "Aug 25, 1999 10:59:32 pm" To: mjacob@feral.com Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:58:36 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Kenneth D. Merry" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matthew Jacob wrote... > > for FreeBSD these days? Well, the most tested boards are the Alteon-based boards. I've had pretty good success with them. The only other alternative are SysKonnect boards, and I haven't heard of anyone other than Bill Paul using them. You'll have to ask him how they work. As for the Alteon boards, they work pretty well, and the driver works pretty well. I would suggest getting the Netgear GA620, as it is based on the Tigon 2 chipset. I think the 3Com 3c985 may be based on the Tigon 1 chipset. If so, you'd probably rather have the Netgear. You can also get Alteon-branded boards, but you can only get them from Alteon and I think you'll end up paying a lot for them. The Netgear boards are essentially identical to the Alteon-branded boards, with the possible exception of a different transceiver. The Netgear boards only have 512K of SRAM. I think the 3Com boards have 1MB of SRAM, and you can get Alteon boards with either 512K or 1MB. Obviously, 1MB is preferrable, but I would choose a Tigon 2 board over a Tigon 1 board. You can still get very good performance with 512K of SRAM, it mainly just affects the TCP window size you can use effectively. Although it depends on your application, you'll probably want to run jumbo frames (9000 byte MTU) on whatever board you get. You'll get relatively poor performance with the standard 1500 byte ethernet MTU at gigabit speeds. My guess is that you will have difficulty getting past 350 or 400Mbps, depending on what sort of hardware you have. Another thing to keep in mind, if you're going to be connecting more than two machines, is that the Alteon switches are the only ones that I've seen that currently claim to do jumbo frames. They cost a bundle, but they're more or less the only game in town. My guess is that will change eventually. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Aug 26 10:19:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F61B14C04 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:19:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA05996; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:18:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Message-Id: <199908261718.NAA05996@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Kenneth D. Merry" Cc: mjacob@feral.com, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: what's the best working gigabit ether card... References: <199908261558.JAA83092@panzer.kdm.org> In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:58:36 MDT." <199908261558.JAA83092@panzer.kdm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:18:56 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Another thing to keep in mind, if you're going to be connecting more than > two machines, is that the Alteon switches are the only ones that I've seen > that currently claim to do jumbo frames. They cost a bundle, but they're > more or less the only game in town. My guess is that will change > eventually. Packet Engines is also doing jumbo sized Gigabit ethernet in their switches. This was something that was a requirement at work (UUNET) since the backbone already carries 4470 bytes frames, and we didn't want to have to fragment going over gigabit ethernet plumbing. You might also check around for an Internet Draft recently published on how to encapsulate jumbo-sized frames. This can be problematic for some protocols that use SNAP encapsulation since the ethernet type field is used as a length; this normally isn't a problem since the lengths were smaller then the range of ethernet types assigned. With jumbo frames, this is no longer true. In our case, this came up in the context of encapsulating CLNS frames on the wire. This is used commonly on ISP backbones that run Integrated IS-IS routing protocol as their IGP. louie (aka louie@UU.NET) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Aug 26 10:24:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0775215D3D for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:24:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from semuta.feral.com (semuta [192.67.166.70]) by feral.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA27306; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:22:32 -0700 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:22:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: "Louis A. Mamakos" Cc: "Kenneth D. Merry" , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: what's the best working gigabit ether card... In-Reply-To: <199908261718.NAA05996@whizzo.transsys.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > > Another thing to keep in mind, if you're going to be connecting more than > > two machines, is that the Alteon switches are the only ones that I've seen > > that currently claim to do jumbo frames. They cost a bundle, but they're > > more or less the only game in town. My guess is that will change > > eventually. > > Packet Engines is also doing jumbo sized Gigabit ethernet in their > switches. This was something that was a requirement at work (UUNET) > since the backbone already carries 4470 bytes frames, and we didn't > want to have to fragment going over gigabit ethernet plumbing. > > You might also check around for an Internet Draft recently published > on how to encapsulate jumbo-sized frames. This can be problematic > for some protocols that use SNAP encapsulation since the ethernet > type field is used as a length; this normally isn't a problem since > the lengths were smaller then the range of ethernet types assigned. With > jumbo frames, this is no longer true. > > In our case, this came up in the context of encapsulating CLNS frames > on the wire. This is used commonly on ISP backbones that run Integrated > IS-IS routing protocol as their IGP. > Cool, thanks all. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Aug 26 11:57:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.kdm.org (panzer.kdm.org [216.160.178.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CB2015427 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:57:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.kdm.org) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.kdm.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA84266; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:57:16 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ken) Message-Id: <199908261857.MAA84266@panzer.kdm.org> Subject: Re: what's the best working gigabit ether card... In-Reply-To: <199908261718.NAA05996@whizzo.transsys.com> from "Louis A. Mamakos" at "Aug 26, 1999 01:18:56 pm" To: louie@TransSys.COM (Louis A. Mamakos) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:57:16 -0600 (MDT) Cc: mjacob@feral.com, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Kenneth D. Merry" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Louis A. Mamakos wrote... > > > > Another thing to keep in mind, if you're going to be connecting more than > > two machines, is that the Alteon switches are the only ones that I've seen > > that currently claim to do jumbo frames. They cost a bundle, but they're > > more or less the only game in town. My guess is that will change > > eventually. > > Packet Engines is also doing jumbo sized Gigabit ethernet in their > switches. This was something that was a requirement at work (UUNET) > since the backbone already carries 4470 bytes frames, and we didn't > want to have to fragment going over gigabit ethernet plumbing. That's very good to know, thanks. I wonder why they don't mention it on their web page? Another odd thing is that they claim there is a 3rd party FreeBSD driver for their Gigabit ethernet PCI card, although I don't know of one. (There's certainly not one in the tree.) > You might also check around for an Internet Draft recently published > on how to encapsulate jumbo-sized frames. This can be problematic > for some protocols that use SNAP encapsulation since the ethernet > type field is used as a length; this normally isn't a problem since > the lengths were smaller then the range of ethernet types assigned. With > jumbo frames, this is no longer true. > > In our case, this came up in the context of encapsulating CLNS frames > on the wire. This is used commonly on ISP backbones that run Integrated > IS-IS routing protocol as their IGP. Hmm, thanks for the info. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@kdm.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Aug 26 12: 3:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D8515DB5 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:03:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from semuta.feral.com (semuta [192.67.166.70]) by feral.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA27752; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:01:48 -0700 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:01:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: "Kenneth D. Merry" Cc: "Louis A. Mamakos" , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: what's the best working gigabit ether card... In-Reply-To: <199908261857.MAA84266@panzer.kdm.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Louis A. Mamakos wrote... > > > > > > Another thing to keep in mind, if you're going to be connecting more than > > > two machines, is that the Alteon switches are the only ones that I've seen > > > that currently claim to do jumbo frames. They cost a bundle, but they're > > > more or less the only game in town. My guess is that will change > > > eventually. > > > > Packet Engines is also doing jumbo sized Gigabit ethernet in their > > switches. This was something that was a requirement at work (UUNET) > > since the backbone already carries 4470 bytes frames, and we didn't > > want to have to fragment going over gigabit ethernet plumbing. > > That's very good to know, thanks. I wonder why they don't mention it on > their web page? > > Another odd thing is that they claim there is a 3rd party FreeBSD driver > for their Gigabit ethernet PCI card, although I don't know of one. > (There's certainly not one in the tree.) I've been (possibly mis-) informed that Packet Engine's GigEther card has been dropped. In fact, that's why I've been contacted to look into alternates. Essential Networks has a GigE variant of their RoadRunner card (HIPPI)- porting Kevin Lahey's driver from NetBSD to FreeBSD for that card has been on my list for a while... > > > You might also check around for an Internet Draft recently published > > on how to encapsulate jumbo-sized frames. This can be problematic > > for some protocols that use SNAP encapsulation since the ethernet > > type field is used as a length; this normally isn't a problem since > > the lengths were smaller then the range of ethernet types assigned. With > > jumbo frames, this is no longer true. > > > > In our case, this came up in the context of encapsulating CLNS frames > > on the wire. This is used commonly on ISP backbones that run Integrated > > IS-IS routing protocol as their IGP. > > Hmm, thanks for the info. > > Ken > -- > Kenneth Merry > ken@kdm.org > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Aug 26 12:10:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.kdm.org (panzer.kdm.org [216.160.178.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B45214EA9 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:10:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.kdm.org) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.kdm.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA84408; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:10:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ken) Message-Id: <199908261910.NAA84408@panzer.kdm.org> Subject: Re: what's the best working gigabit ether card... In-Reply-To: from Matthew Jacob at "Aug 26, 1999 12:01:46 pm" To: mjacob@feral.com Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:10:19 -0600 (MDT) Cc: louie@TransSys.COM, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Kenneth D. Merry" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matthew Jacob wrote... > > > Louis A. Mamakos wrote... > > > > > > Packet Engines is also doing jumbo sized Gigabit ethernet in their > > > switches. This was something that was a requirement at work (UUNET) > > > since the backbone already carries 4470 bytes frames, and we didn't > > > want to have to fragment going over gigabit ethernet plumbing. > > > > That's very good to know, thanks. I wonder why they don't mention it on > > their web page? > > > > Another odd thing is that they claim there is a 3rd party FreeBSD driver > > for their Gigabit ethernet PCI card, although I don't know of one. > > (There's certainly not one in the tree.) > > I've been (possibly mis-) informed that Packet Engine's GigEther card has > been dropped. In fact, that's why I've been contacted to look into > alternates. Hmm, interesting. Do you know if there was ever a FreeBSD driver for it? One other thing I didn't mention about the Alteon-based boards is that the firmware source is available for them, without an NDA. You can compile it with a gcc cross compiler under FreeBSD. > Essential Networks has a GigE variant of their RoadRunner card (HIPPI)- > porting Kevin Lahey's driver from NetBSD to FreeBSD for that card has been > on my list for a while... Hmm, I didn't know there was a GigE version of that card. I don't see any mention of it on their web page... (seems to be a common theme today) Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@kdm.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Aug 26 12:12:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BBB815CEA for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:12:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from semuta.feral.com (semuta [192.67.166.70]) by feral.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA27799; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:11:39 -0700 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:11:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: "Kenneth D. Merry" Cc: louie@TransSys.COM, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: what's the best working gigabit ether card... In-Reply-To: <199908261910.NAA84408@panzer.kdm.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I've been (possibly mis-) informed that Packet Engine's GigEther card has > > been dropped. In fact, that's why I've been contacted to look into > > alternates. > > Hmm, interesting. Do you know if there was ever a FreeBSD driver for it? No. The system this is for isn't a FreeBSD system (but similar). > > One other thing I didn't mention about the Alteon-based boards is that the > firmware source is available for them, without an NDA. You can compile it > with a gcc cross compiler under FreeBSD. > > > Essential Networks has a GigE variant of their RoadRunner card (HIPPI)- > > porting Kevin Lahey's driver from NetBSD to FreeBSD for that card has been > > on my list for a while... > > Hmm, I didn't know there was a GigE version of that card. I don't see any > mention of it on their web page... (seems to be a common theme today) Yup. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Aug 26 12:14:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [63.67.141.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA63B153E4 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:14:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA04064; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:13:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:13:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: "Kenneth D. Merry" Cc: "Louis A. Mamakos" , mjacob@feral.com, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: what's the best working gigabit ether card... In-Reply-To: <199908261857.MAA84266@panzer.kdm.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Kenneth D. Merry wrote: > Another odd thing is that they claim there is a 3rd party FreeBSD driver > for their Gigabit ethernet PCI card, although I don't know of one. > (There's certainly not one in the tree.) ftp://ftp.scl.ameslab.gov/pub/drivers/ pe-gnic1.tar.gz 7 Kb Fri Oct 2 00:00:00 1998 Unix Tape Archive pe-gnic2.tar.gz 9 Kb Fri Oct 2 00:00:00 1998 Unix Tape Archive Also: http://www.scl.ameslab.gov/Projects/Gigabit/ -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | This Space For Rent | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Aug 26 22:40:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from asteroid.svib.ru (asteroid.svib.ru [195.151.166.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2E214E6E; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 22:40:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru) Received: from shuttle.svib.ru (shuttle.svib.ru [195.151.166.144]) by asteroid.svib.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA35417; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:39:15 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru) Received: (from tarkhil@localhost) by shuttle.svib.ru (8.9.3/8.8.8) id JAA13492; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:39:05 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from tarkhil) From: Alex Povolotsky MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14278.9335.834988.620763@shuttle.svib.ru> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:39:03 +0400 (MSD) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Help! What's happening? X-Mailer: VM 6.71 under 21.1 "20 Minutes to Nikko" XEmacs Lucid (patch 2) X-URL: http://freebsd.svib.ru Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What does the following messages mean? My hard disks are going away? Or something in kernel has failed? Or what? [9:35] over:...work/m2p # swapinfo /usr/sbin/swapinfo: Input/output error. [9:35] over:...work/m2p # Aug 27 09:35:56 over /kernel: spec_getpages: I/O read failure: (error code=6) Aug 27 09:35:56 over /kernel: spec_getpages: I/O read failure: (error code=6) Aug 27 09:35:56 over /kernel: size: 13312, resid: 13312, a_count: 13152, valid: 0x0 Aug 27 09:35:56 over /kernel: size: 13312, resid: 13312, a_count: 13152, valid: 0x0 Aug 27 09:35:56 over /kernel: nread: 0, reqpage: 0, pindex: 0, pcount: 4 Aug 27 09:35:56 over /kernel: nread: 0, reqpage: 0, pindex: 0, pcount: 4 FreeBSD over.ru 3.0-19990619-STABLE FreeBSD 3.0-19990619-STABLE #0: Thu Jul 22 18:47:04 GMT 1999 root@myname.my.domain:/usr/src/sys/compile/OVER i386 -- Alexander B. Povolotsky [ICQ 18277558] [2:5020/145] [http://freebsd.svib.ru] [tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Aug 27 13:21:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from longacre.demon.co.uk (longacre.demon.co.uk [158.152.156.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D05B1600E for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:21:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from searle@longacre.demon.co.uk) Received: (from searle@localhost) by longacre.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA62294; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 19:57:12 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from searle) Message-ID: <19990827195712.39659@longacre.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 19:57:12 +0100 From: Michael Searle To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: OnStream Reply-To: searle@longacre.demon.co.uk Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Are the OnStream SC30 and SC50 (SCSI tape drives) supported? Can they be used reliably and reasonably fast? AFAIK they need special support, so what OS version do I need to run them? Michael. -- searle@longacre.demon.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Aug 27 17:18:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [63.67.141.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA247150D3; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:18:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA21203; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 20:18:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 20:18:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Its about that time of year again. (FreeBSD & MCA) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org But instead of lamely asking "Does FreeBSD support MCA?" or "When will someone finish MCA support?" (which I suppose is still a valid question.) I will ask another question; "Anyone want to see what I've got so far?" http://www.jurai.net/~winter/mca/ README.mca mca.diff mca.tar.gz MicroChannel Architecture System detected. ... mca0: on motherboard mca0: unknown card (id 0x8fda, enabled) at slot 1 ed0: io 0x280-0x29f mem 0xd0000-0xd3fff ed0: irq 10 on mca0 id 6fc2 slot 2 ed0: address 00:00:c0:31:94:30, type WD8003W/A (16 bit) ie0: <3Com EtherLink/MC Ethernet Adapter> io 0x300-0x307 mem 0xc0000-0xc5fff ie0: irq 9 on mca0 id 6042 slot 3 ie0: <3C523 R14> address 02:60:8c:da:15:ac mca0: unknown card (id 0xeeff, enabled) at slot 4 mca0: unknown card (id 0x8efe, enabled) at slot 5 ... Granted, I'm still having problems getting the (until now ISA only) drivers working with these cards but if_ed_mca is able to send packets and complain about device timeouts and the if_ie_mca driver does manage to blow up somewhere inside of ieinit(). :) Basically, I believe that I've got all the pieces needed for FreeBSD to support MCA devices, should any device drivers actually be written. I've got a pile of stuff I'm trying to work through here so drivers should show up at some point (I think the 'aha' driver for the aha1640 will work out of the box but I don't have one to test that theory on. Yet.) I'm planning on committing this stuff to -CURRENT in a week or two, or when I actually manage to get a driver working, whichever comes first. I'd really like a few other people to try booting a kernel with this code on any of the MCA systems they happen to have laying around just to make sure that my changes do indeed work on other hardware than my Model 77. If someone has a ABIOS block device driver code hiding on their hard disk I'd really like to look at it (I already know about the Mach3 stuff). Thanks! -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | This Space For Rent | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Aug 27 18: 2: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.netplex.com.au [202.12.86.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C818A14F6E; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 18:01:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4CA91C1F; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 09:00:51 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Matthew N. Dodd" Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Its about that time of year again. (FreeBSD & MCA) In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 27 Aug 1999 20:18:39 -0400." Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 09:00:51 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <19990828010051.B4CA91C1F@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Matthew N. Dodd" wrote: > But instead of lamely asking "Does FreeBSD support MCA?" or "When will > someone finish MCA support?" (which I suppose is still a valid question.) > I will ask another question; "Anyone want to see what I've got so far?" [..] > I'm planning on committing this stuff to -CURRENT in a week or two, or > when I actually manage to get a driver working, whichever comes first. [..] Good stuff! People may ask "why bother?", but it gives us access to a heap of embedded POS systems that are stuck with OS/2 and Y2K nightmares. Cheers, -Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Aug 27 18: 7: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [63.67.141.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 404F714DE1; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 18:06:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA21884; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 21:04:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 21:04:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: Peter Wemm Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Its about that time of year again. (FreeBSD & MCA) In-Reply-To: <19990828010051.B4CA91C1F@overcee.netplex.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 28 Aug 1999, Peter Wemm wrote: > Good stuff! People may ask "why bother?", but it gives us access to a > heap of embedded POS systems that are stuck with OS/2 and Y2K > nightmares. Don't forget the PS/2 laptops that use MCA. I'm sure the bottom has fallen out of that market and those machines do have nice screens. -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | This Space For Rent | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Aug 28 0:47: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from backup.af.speednet.com.au (af.speednet.com.au [202.135.206.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E6714F0D; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 00:46:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by backup.af.speednet.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA34371; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 17:44:53 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 17:44:52 +1000 (EST) From: Andy Farkas X-Sender: andyf@localhost To: "Matthew N. Dodd" Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Its about that time of year again. (FreeBSD & MCA) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 27 Aug 1999, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: > I will ask another question; "Anyone want to see what I've got so far?" > > http://www.jurai.net/~winter/mca/ > > README.mca > mca.diff > mca.tar.gz > > MicroChannel Architecture System detected. > ... > mca0: on motherboard Excellent! Although you've now forced me to put off all other weekend 'projects' (lawn-mowing, car-washing, etc) :-) > I'd really like a few other people to try booting a kernel with this code > on any of the MCA systems they happen to have laying around just to make > sure that my changes do indeed work on other hardware than my Model 77. I have a truckload of MCA cards - scsi controllers (ibm, adaptec, buslogic, pro-comm), ethernet (ne2000, 3com), memory boards (ibm, other), serial controllers, XGA-2.... I'll try and give 'em all a go... > If someone has a ABIOS block device driver code hiding on their hard disk > I'd really like to look at it (I already know about the Mach3 stuff). I have the OS/2 device driver development kit. There may be something in there. I'll check. > > Thanks! > Thank you! > -- > | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | > | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | > | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | This Space For Rent | ISO8802.5 4ever | > -- :{ andyf@speednet.com.au Andy Farkas System Administrator Speednet Communications http://www.speednet.com.au/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Aug 28 11:54:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [63.67.141.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7933614C80; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 11:54:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA08752; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 14:53:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 14:49:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: Andy Farkas Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Its about that time of year again. (FreeBSD & MCA) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 28 Aug 1999, Andy Farkas wrote: > I have a truckload of MCA cards - scsi controllers (ibm, adaptec, > buslogic, pro-comm), ethernet (ne2000, 3com), memory boards (ibm, > other), serial controllers, XGA-2.... I'll try and give 'em all a > go... If you've got an adaptec 1640, please try http://www.jurai.net/~winter/mca/aha_mca.c Set your DMA channel to something under 7 though as I've not quite figured out a good way to intercept the resource manager calls for channels above 7. -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | This Space For Rent | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Aug 28 14:43:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from palrel3.hp.com (palrel3.hp.com [156.153.255.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5812B14E68 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 14:43:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from darrylo@sr.hp.com) Received: from postal.sr.hp.com (root@postal.sr.hp.com [15.4.46.173]) by palrel3.hp.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.5tis) with ESMTP id OAA12473 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 14:42:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mina.sr.hp.com (root@mina.sr.hp.com [15.4.42.247]) by postal.sr.hp.com with ESMTP (8.8.6 (PHNE_17190)/8.7.3 TIS 5.0) id OAA02738; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 14:42:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (darrylo@mina.sr.hp.com [15.4.42.247]) by mina.sr.hp.com with ESMTP (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.7.3 TIS 5.0) id OAA17051; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 14:42:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199908282142.OAA17051@mina.sr.hp.com> To: searle@longacre.demon.co.uk Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OnStream Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 27 Aug 1999 19:57:12 BST." <19990827195712.39659@longacre.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 14:42:51 -0700 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Michael Searle wrote: > Are the OnStream SC30 and SC50 (SCSI tape drives) > supported? Can they be used reliably and reasonably > fast? AFAIK they need special support, so what > OS version do I need to run them? They're not supported, yet. People are supposedly working on getting them working, but it's unclear as to when the support will materialize. If I had to take a wild guess, I'd say that some kind of support will exist by December or so, and possibly earlier. [ This is not an official statement -- or even an unofficial one. I've got very little contact with the people working on the drivers, but I, too, need some kind of SCSI OnStream support. I can wait until the end of the year or so; if something doesn't happen by then, I may take a stab at some kind of SC30 (but not SC50) support. Or, I may not, depending on how much time I have. ] -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@sr.hp.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Hewlett-Packard, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Aug 28 14:57: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 570E614C1D for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 14:56:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from semuta.feral.com (semuta [192.67.166.70]) by feral.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA03145; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 14:51:58 -0700 Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 14:51:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Darryl Okahata Cc: searle@longacre.demon.co.uk, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OnStream In-Reply-To: <199908282142.OAA17051@mina.sr.hp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > Are the OnStream SC30 and SC50 (SCSI tape drives) > > supported? Can they be used reliably and reasonably > > fast? AFAIK they need special support, so what > > OS version do I need to run them? > > They're not supported, yet. > > People are supposedly working on getting them working, but it's > unclear as to when the support will materialize. If I had to take a > wild guess, I'd say that some kind of support will exist by December or > so, and possibly earlier. I'm the putz in question. It's been hard for me to find the joining of time to do this and a stable -current for my setups. > > [ This is not an official statement -- or even an unofficial one. I've > got very little contact with the people working on the drivers, but I, > too, need some kind of SCSI OnStream support. I can wait until the > end of the year or so; if something doesn't happen by then, I may take > a stab at some kind of SC30 (but not SC50) support. Or, I may not, > depending on how much time I have. ] > > -- > Darryl Okahata > darrylo@sr.hp.com > > DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not > constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Hewlett-Packard, or of the > little green men that have been following him all day. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Aug 28 15: 4:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from atlrel1.hp.com (atlrel1.hp.com [156.153.255.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4ED11500B for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 15:04:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from darrylo@sr.hp.com) Received: from postal.sr.hp.com (root@postal.sr.hp.com [15.4.46.173]) by atlrel1.hp.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.5tis) with ESMTP id SAA01754; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 18:03:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mina.sr.hp.com (root@mina.sr.hp.com [15.4.42.247]) by postal.sr.hp.com with ESMTP (8.8.6 (PHNE_17190)/8.7.3 TIS 5.0) id PAA03021; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 15:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (darrylo@mina.sr.hp.com [15.4.42.247]) by mina.sr.hp.com with ESMTP (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.7.3 TIS 5.0) id PAA17308; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 15:04:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199908282204.PAA17308@mina.sr.hp.com> To: mjacob@feral.com Cc: searle@longacre.demon.co.uk, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OnStream Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 28 Aug 1999 14:51:53 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 15:04:28 -0700 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matthew Jacob wrote: > > People are supposedly working on getting them working, but it's > > unclear as to when the support will materialize. If I had to take a > > wild guess, I'd say that some kind of support will exist by December or > > so, and possibly earlier. > > I'm the putz in question. It's been hard for me to find the joining of > time to do this and a stable -current for my setups. Let me clarify my posting: I think Matthew and others have been doing an incredible job with FreeBSD, and I appreciate all that they've done. I'm *NOT* complaining. They have a real job, and real lives ;-), and events beyond their control occasionally prevent them from working on FreeBSD. This is, after all, a voluntary and unpaid effort. -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@sr.hp.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Hewlett-Packard, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Aug 28 15:43: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89F2B14D8F for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 15:43:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from semuta.feral.com (semuta [192.67.166.70]) by feral.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA03238; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 15:35:31 -0700 Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 15:35:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Darryl Okahata Cc: searle@longacre.demon.co.uk, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OnStream In-Reply-To: <199908282204.PAA17308@mina.sr.hp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > People are supposedly working on getting them working, but it's > > > unclear as to when the support will materialize. If I had to take a > > > wild guess, I'd say that some kind of support will exist by December or > > > so, and possibly earlier. > > > > I'm the putz in question. It's been hard for me to find the joining of > > time to do this and a stable -current for my setups. > > Let me clarify my posting: I think Matthew and others have been > doing an incredible job with FreeBSD, and I appreciate all that they've > done. I'm *NOT* complaining. They have a real job, and real lives ;-), > and events beyond their control occasionally prevent them from working > on FreeBSD. This is, after all, a voluntary and unpaid effort. Darryl- I appreciate that, and it's true. However, I'm still a putz- I haven't come close to fulfilling all the promises I've made. Sigh. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Aug 28 16: 1:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from ns.skylink.it (ns.skylink.it [194.177.113.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B7F14C3C for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 16:01:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hibma@skylink.it) Received: from heidi.plazza.it (va-176.skylink.it [194.185.55.176]) by ns.skylink.it (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA24491; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 00:59:25 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by heidi.plazza.it (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA01058; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 23:00:05 GMT X-No-Spam: Neither the receipients nor the senders email address(s) are to be used for Unsolicited (Commercial) Email without the explicit written consent of either party; as a per-message fee is incurred for inbound and outbound traffic to the originator. Posted-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 23:00:05 GMT Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 01:00:03 +0200 (CEST) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@heidi.plazza.it Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: Matthew Jacob Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OnStream In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Darryl- I appreciate that, and it's true. However, I'm still a putz- I > haven't come close to fulfilling all the promises I've made. Sigh. Is that going to be a pointy hat, or just a hat that is bright orange? Of course, the hat will come with full manual on how to make one, put it one and wear it. :-) Honest: If you want to remove the discrepancy between promises and deliverables, I suggest make FreeBSD consultancy your job. Otherwise, just do whatever you are able to do, and that will do just fine. You're not the only one failling promises. Believe me. You're nowhere near my league :-) Nick -- e-Mail: hibma@skylink.it To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Aug 28 16:14:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F6614E82 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 16:14:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from semuta.feral.com (semuta [192.67.166.70]) by feral.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA03340; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 16:13:25 -0700 Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 16:13:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Nick Hibma Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OnStream In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Darryl- I appreciate that, and it's true. However, I'm still a putz- I > > haven't come close to fulfilling all the promises I've made. Sigh. > > Is that going to be a pointy hat, or just a hat that is bright orange? > Of course, the hat will come with full manual on how to make one, > put it one and wear it. :-) > > Honest: If you want to remove the discrepancy between promises and > deliverables, I suggest make FreeBSD consultancy your job. Otherwise, Yeah- If I could convince my current contract holders, I *would*... I only have had one contract holder over the last year that has made FreeBSD a 'paid' job. I'm workin' on it... > just do whatever you are able to do, and that will do just fine. You're > not the only one failling promises. Believe me. You're nowhere near my > league :-) Mea Culpa. Mea Maxima Culpa.. Swack! Swack! Swack! (visions of Swedish black and white films about knights and death...) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Aug 28 19:56:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from palrel3.hp.com (palrel3.hp.com [156.153.255.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3627F14EFC for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 19:56:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from darrylo@sr.hp.com) Received: from postal.sr.hp.com (root@postal.sr.hp.com [15.4.46.173]) by palrel3.hp.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.5tis) with ESMTP id TAA21275; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 19:54:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mina.sr.hp.com (root@mina.sr.hp.com [15.4.42.247]) by postal.sr.hp.com with ESMTP (8.8.6 (PHNE_17190)/8.7.3 TIS 5.0) id TAA18215; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 19:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (darrylo@mina.sr.hp.com [15.4.42.247]) by mina.sr.hp.com with ESMTP (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.7.3 TIS 5.0) id TAA18091; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 19:54:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199908290254.TAA18091@mina.sr.hp.com> To: mjacob@feral.com Cc: searle@longacre.demon.co.uk, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OnStream Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 28 Aug 1999 15:35:27 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 19:54:01 -0700 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matthew Jacob wrote: > > Let me clarify my posting: I think Matthew and others have been > > doing an incredible job with FreeBSD, and I appreciate all that they've > > done. I'm *NOT* complaining. They have a real job, and real lives ;-), > > and events beyond their control occasionally prevent them from working > > on FreeBSD. This is, after all, a voluntary and unpaid effort. > > Darryl- I appreciate that, and it's true. However, I'm still a putz- I > haven't come close to fulfilling all the promises I've made. Sigh. Well, your approach is the right one. If I ever finish my (userland) driver program for the OnStream SC30, it'll have a fair number of limitations, and will probably not follow the ADR specifications. I just need something that'll work with dump(1). Basically, I've got lots to do (and I'm lazy ;-), and so I'd much rather have others do the work (and take the glory ;-). -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@sr.hp.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Hewlett-Packard, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Aug 28 19:57:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from palrel3.hp.com (palrel3.hp.com [156.153.255.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B935F14EFC for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 19:57:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from darrylo@sr.hp.com) Received: from postal.sr.hp.com (root@postal.sr.hp.com [15.4.46.173]) by palrel3.hp.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.5tis) with ESMTP id TAA22144; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 19:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mina.sr.hp.com (root@mina.sr.hp.com [15.4.42.247]) by postal.sr.hp.com with ESMTP (8.8.6 (PHNE_17190)/8.7.3 TIS 5.0) id TAA18245; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 19:57:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (darrylo@mina.sr.hp.com [15.4.42.247]) by mina.sr.hp.com with ESMTP (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.7.3 TIS 5.0) id TAA18139; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 19:57:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199908290257.TAA18139@mina.sr.hp.com> To: Nick Hibma Cc: Matthew Jacob , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OnStream Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 29 Aug 1999 01:00:03 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 19:57:44 -0700 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nick Hibma wrote: > Is that going to be a pointy hat, or just a hat that is bright orange? > Of course, the hat will come with full manual on how to make one, > put it one and wear it. :-) No, no, no. You just need one of *THESE*: http://members.tripod.com/~zoam/afdb.html -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@sr.hp.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Hewlett-Packard, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message