From owner-freebsd-install Tue Apr 6 11:58:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-install@freebsd.org Received: from melete.ch.intel.com (melete.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0803515126; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:58:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by melete.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.6 1998/11/24 22:10:56 iwep Exp iwep $) with ESMTP id LAA22150; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:56:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.7 1999/02/08 16:00:31 steved Exp steved $) with ESMTP id LAA25777; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:56:28 -0700 (MST) Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id OAA25124; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:56:29 -0400 (EDT) From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14090.22748.13910.72739@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:56:28 -0700 (MST) To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org, freebsd-install@freebsd.org Subject: 3.1 Install trouble -- can't see SCSI CD-ROM X-Mailer: VM 6.70 under Emacs 19.34.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-install@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello gurus, Sorry for the cross-post mail but I figured that since it's probably scsi related and it's definitely install related I was justified ;-) I've been running FreeBSD since 2.0.5 with no hitches on my trusty ol' 486. I recently built up a Pentium II box and am having a bugaboo time getting FreeBSD 3.1 to install on it. Symptom: ------- When I boot from the 3.1 floppies it goes to sysinstall and when I get to the "choose media" screen and pick "CD-ROM" it comes back and says that it can't detect any CD-ROM devices (paraphrase). Observations: ------------- I have already installed NT 4.0 on the machine (for the wife and other "critical" software that I just can't get under FreeBSD) and it seems to find all scsi devices just fine. I've done some crude "stress tests" by "xcopying" an entire CD to the hard drive. It didn't miss a beat. I don't think I've got SCSI termination problems. When the machine boots the BIOS it lists all devices, etc. Machine Hardware: ----------------- Asus P2B-DS motherboard, BIOS rev 1008, 128Mb RAM Adaptec 7890 + AIC3860 Ultra2 chipset. Toshiba XM-6401B 40x CD-ROM, scsi id 3, 50 pin, terminated Yamaha CRW4416S CD-R/CD-RW, scsi id 4, 50 pin, non-terminated Quantum Viking II LVD drive, scsi id 5, hdd0, LVD Quantum Viking II LVD drive, scsi id 6, hdd1, LVD I don't recall the exact stepping or rev of the adaptec chipset. I have NO IDE devices other than the floppy drive. Other Findings: --------------- I can boot the FreeBSD 3.0 floppy and it finds the CD-ROM(s) and all disks. I can boot from the FreeBSD 3.0 CD-ROM #2 and again all scsi stuff is found. When I boot from the FreeBSD 3.1 floppies da0 and da1 *are* found and I have been able to label/partition/newfs them. I've tried using Alt-F1 to switch over to the "debug tty" to see the rest of the probe messages (they buzz away to quickly when the sysinstall screen comes up and I can see them--is there a way to capture this on floppy so I could mail it to these lists???) but really no avail. So, what to do? Is there some sort of mechanism I can perform during this boot where I can get more information for somebody "in the know?" Is this a "known problem?" If so, I couldn't find it in the TROUBLE.TXT or any other place (tried searching the archives but nothing good was found). Any help would GREATLY be appreciated. I REALLY want to get 3.1 on this machine. Thanks, -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds CEG, CCE, Next Generation Flows, HLA | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 554-9092 pgr: 868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-install" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-install Tue Apr 6 13:51:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-install@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.plutotech.com (panzer.plutotech.com [206.168.67.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5161215633; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:51:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.plutotech.com) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.plutotech.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id OAA30560; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:48:36 -0600 (MDT) From: "Kenneth D. Merry" Message-Id: <199904062048.OAA30560@panzer.plutotech.com> Subject: Re: 3.1 Install trouble -- can't see SCSI CD-ROM In-Reply-To: <14090.22748.13910.72739@hip186.ch.intel.com> from John Reynolds~ at "Apr 6, 1999 11:56:28 am" To: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com (John Reynolds~) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:48:36 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-install@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-install@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Reynolds~ wrote... > > Hello gurus, > > Sorry for the cross-post mail but I figured that since it's probably scsi > related and it's definitely install related I was justified ;-) > > I've been running FreeBSD since 2.0.5 with no hitches on my trusty ol' > 486. I recently built up a Pentium II box and am having a bugaboo time > getting FreeBSD 3.1 to install on it. > > Symptom: > ------- > > When I boot from the 3.1 floppies it goes to sysinstall and when I get to > the "choose media" screen and pick "CD-ROM" it comes back and says that it > can't detect any CD-ROM devices (paraphrase). > > Observations: > ------------- > > I have already installed NT 4.0 on the machine (for the wife and other > "critical" software that I just can't get under FreeBSD) and it seems to find > all scsi devices just fine. I've done some crude "stress tests" by "xcopying" > an entire CD to the hard drive. It didn't miss a beat. I don't think I've got > SCSI termination problems. When the machine boots the BIOS it lists all > devices, etc. > > Machine Hardware: > ----------------- > > Asus P2B-DS motherboard, BIOS rev 1008, 128Mb RAM > Adaptec 7890 + AIC3860 Ultra2 chipset. > Toshiba XM-6401B 40x CD-ROM, scsi id 3, 50 pin, terminated > Yamaha CRW4416S CD-R/CD-RW, scsi id 4, 50 pin, non-terminated > Quantum Viking II LVD drive, scsi id 5, hdd0, LVD > Quantum Viking II LVD drive, scsi id 6, hdd1, LVD > > I don't recall the exact stepping or rev of the adaptec chipset. I have NO > IDE devices other than the floppy drive. > > Other Findings: > --------------- > > I can boot the FreeBSD 3.0 floppy and it finds the CD-ROM(s) and all disks. > I can boot from the FreeBSD 3.0 CD-ROM #2 and again all scsi stuff is found. > When I boot from the FreeBSD 3.1 floppies da0 and da1 *are* found and I have > been able to label/partition/newfs them. > > I've tried using Alt-F1 to switch over to the "debug tty" to see the rest of > the probe messages (they buzz away to quickly when the sysinstall screen > comes up and I can see them--is there a way to capture this on floppy so I > could mail it to these lists???) but really no avail. > > So, what to do? Is there some sort of mechanism I can perform during this > boot where I can get more information for somebody "in the know?" Is this > a "known problem?" If so, I couldn't find it in the TROUBLE.TXT or any other > place (tried searching the archives but nothing good was found). Any help > would GREATLY be appreciated. I REALLY want to get 3.1 on this machine. Well, there have been problems with machines with 7890s hanging on boot. Justin commited a work-around for the problem on March 22nd/23rd. It might be a good idea to try out one of the snapshots from March 24th or later here: ftp://releng3.FreeBSD.ORG/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386 Either a -current or -stable snapshot will work, although, you'll probably want a stable snapshot. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-install" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-install Tue Apr 6 22:42: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-install@freebsd.org Received: from melete.ch.intel.com (melete.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69AE114CF3; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 22:41:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by melete.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.6 1998/11/24 22:10:56 iwep Exp iwep $) with ESMTP id WAA11063; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 22:39:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.7 1999/02/08 16:00:31 steved Exp steved $) with ESMTP id WAA15494; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 22:39:43 -0700 (MST) Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id BAA26340; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 01:39:43 -0400 (EDT) From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14090.61340.52089.124865@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 22:39:40 -0700 (MST) To: "Kenneth D. Merry" Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org, freebsd-install@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3.1 Install trouble -- can't see SCSI CD-ROM In-Reply-To: <199904062048.OAA30560@panzer.plutotech.com> References: <14090.22748.13910.72739@hip186.ch.intel.com> <199904062048.OAA30560@panzer.plutotech.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.70 under Emacs 19.34.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-install@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [ On Tuesday, April 6, Kenneth D. Merry wrote: ] > > Well, there have been problems with machines with 7890s hanging on boot. > Justin commited a work-around for the problem on March 22nd/23rd. > > It might be a good idea to try out one of the snapshots from March 24th or > later here: > > ftp://releng3.FreeBSD.ORG/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386 > > Either a -current or -stable snapshot will work, although, you'll probably > want a stable snapshot. would one be able to get just floppies from that directory and still be able to use the CD-ROM to install the whole system? I realize that the kernel would have to be recompiled after 'supping the same snapshot code. I'm just concerned about installing. I do not have access to a T1 or anything cool. I need to install from CD-ROM (plus I like supporting the effort with my $$$). Lemme know about the above. Thanks for the reply. I'm just about at my wit's end! -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds CEG, CCE, Next Generation Flows, HLA | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 554-9092 pgr: 868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-install" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-install Mon Apr 12 9:13:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-install@freebsd.org Received: from melete.ch.intel.com (melete.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850761556E; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:13:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by melete.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.6 1998/11/24 22:10:56 iwep Exp iwep $) with ESMTP id JAA04312; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:10:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.7 1999/02/08 16:00:31 steved Exp steved $) with ESMTP id JAA13195; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:10:45 -0700 (MST) Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id MAA27439; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:10:45 -0400 (EDT) From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14098.6916.85454.943476@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:10:44 -0700 (MST) To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Subject: 3.1-RELEASE -- CD-ROM found! (was Re: 3.1 Install trouble -- can't see SCSI CD-ROM) X-Mailer: VM 6.70 under Emacs 19.34.1 Cc: freebsd-install@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-install@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [ copying to -install because I feel this is still an "install issue" ] > [ a bunch of people responded ... here are two snippets:] > > > That's just what I did: Insert kern.flp and CD-ROM #1, boot, > > insert mfsroot.flp when requested. Kernel will find the CD- > > ROM drive. Sysinstall doesn't recognize it, unless it's an > > IDE CD-ROM drive. > > I can also confirm a system install of 3.1R from a SCSI cdrom drive. > An asus p2l97-ds, with an older (3-4 years) plextor scsi cdrom drive. Ok, I think I've narrowed down what was going on. Thanks to several people that showed me the Scroll-Lock + PgUp/PgDn trick, I was able to see the rest of the boot messages. The last boot message related to my first CD-ROM was: cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, (there was nothing after the comma) Scratching my head, I rebooted again but this time as soon as it started to boot I inserted the Disk #1 from my FreeBSD 3.1 CD-ROM pack ... it got down to the scsi probe, and viola: cd0: cd present [322265 x 2048 byte records] I then went back into sysinstall, got to the "media" screen, hit CD-ROM and BOOM! Worked! So, now the question exists: "When did this behavior during boot change, is this a bug or feature?" I've installed FreeBSD 2.x.x on my machine from since the days of 2.0.5. I don't remember ever having seen this problem. Granted it was on another machine, but still. Other philosophical things: o If this is a bug, where does it lie? sysinstall? The boot code? o I can accept the fact that one must have a disc in the drive to get things to work (hey, I've done wierder things to install NT!!!--including a Mexican hat dance around the computer.... :) ... if this is "required" then shouldn't the next logical thing be to put this in the error message of sysinstall? i.e. if it doesn't detect a CD-ROM it might suggest that you: a) examine your termination b) use Scroll-Lock + PgUp/PgDn to few the scsi probe messages c) put the disc #1 into the drive during boot Thanks for all that responded. Looks like the Scroll-Lock thing was all I needed to figure out the "duh" problem going on here. The bottom line is if 3.1 sysinstall doesn't find your CD-ROM, try putting a disc in it before the end of the boot sequence. I still wonder whether this is a bug or feature? :-) -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds CEG, CCE, Next Generation Flows, HLA | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 554-9092 pgr: 868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-install" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-install Wed Apr 21 8:57:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-install@freebsd.org Received: from guld.spray.se (guld.spray.se [195.58.124.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0DD514ED9; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:57:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andy@razorfish.com) Received: by guld.spray.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:55:00 +0200 Message-ID: From: Andreas Thorstensson To: "'freebsd-install@freebsd.org'" Cc: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: problem with install Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:54:59 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-install@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org After I install (install works perfectly fine) I reboot and I receive "read error". Anyone who can give me some directions or ideas what it can be? Thanks in advance, Andreas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-install" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-install Wed Apr 21 12:18:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-install@freebsd.org Received: from pscwa.psca.com (popmail.pscwa.psca.com [199.99.162.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B4B7B1586D; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:18:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from iyengar@pscwa.psca.com) Received: from vulcan by pscwa.psca.com (NX5.67f2/NX3.0M, PSCWA update 950701) id AA27348; Wed, 21 Apr 99 12:16:00 -0700 Message-Id: <9904211916.AA27348@pscwa.psca.com> Received: by vulcan.pscwa.psca.com (NX5.67g/NX3.0X) id AA02998; Wed, 21 Apr 99 12:16:00 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) In-Reply-To: X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.2mach (Enhance 2.0b5) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148) From: Manu Iyengar Date: Wed, 21 Apr 99 12:15:57 -0700 To: Andreas Thorstensson Subject: Re: problem with install Cc: "'freebsd-install@freebsd.org'" , "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Reply-To: m@pscwa.psca.com References: X-Subliminal-Message: Have you paid The Bill? Sender: owner-freebsd-install@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think that means that the boot loader cannot grok your disk geometry. See http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/FAQ125.html . Did the installer complain about a bad geometry when it started up? A description of your system would also be nice. From the keyboard of Andreas Thorstensson on Wed, 21 Apr 1999: > After I install (install works perfectly fine) I reboot and I receive "read > error". Anyone who can give me some directions or ideas what it can be? > > Thanks in advance, > > Andreas > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-install" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-install" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-install Wed Apr 21 14: 0:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-install@freebsd.org Received: from guld.spray.se (guld.spray.se [195.58.124.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D6915096; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:00:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andy@razorfish.com) Received: by guld.spray.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:57:36 +0200 Message-ID: From: Andreas Thorstensson To: "'m@pscwa.psca.com'" Cc: "'freebsd-install@freebsd.org'" , "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: problem with install Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:57:35 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-install@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I changed my boot manager to boot easy and now it works. Thanks for help anyways! >I think that means that the boot loader cannot grok your disk >geometry. See >http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/FAQ125.html . Did the installer >complain about a >bad geometry when it started up? A description of your system >would also be >nice. > > >From the keyboard of Andreas Thorstensson on Wed, 21 Apr 1999: >> After I install (install works perfectly fine) I reboot and >I receive "read >> error". Anyone who can give me some directions or ideas what >it can be? >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Andreas >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-install" in the body of the message > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-install" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-install" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-install Fri Apr 23 8: 3:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-install@freebsd.org Received: from phobos.samuelson.com (pm31-p167.netexp.net [205.182.69.167]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 228DE151BC for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 08:03:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bolski@netexp.net) Received: (qmail 6974 invoked by uid 500); 23 Apr 1999 15:01:31 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Apr 1999 15:01:31 -0000 Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:01:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Ivan Samuelson X-Sender: bolski@phobos.samuelson.com To: freebsd-install@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Installing FreeBSD 3.1 on HP Vectra VL 6 Series 7 DT Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-install@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm trying to install FreeBSD 3.1 onto an HP Vectra VL 6/266 Series 7 DT PC. It's a PII-233 with 32 megs of memory, 4 gig IDE harddrive, a Cirrus Logic 546X video card (AGP), Diamond Monster 3D card, SMC EtherEZ (8416) ethernet card, Aztech 23230 Compatible PnP Audio card (came with machine), Matshita CD-ROM CR-588 (IDE) and a Phoenix BIOS 6.0.0 I can boot the Kernel floppy with no problem. When I insert the MFS root floppy and hit enter, I get the following dump: int=0000000e eir=00000004 efl=00030246 eip=000020da eax=00002001 ebx=00000000 ecx=0000df07 edx=000003f5 esi=0000a6fc edi=0000a6fc ebp=000003da esp=000003d0 cs=ebfa ds=0040 fs=0000 gs=0000 ss=9db7 cs:eip=8a 64 0a 8a c4 d0 e4 c0-e8 02 02 e0 b0 ff 2a c4 ss:esp=00 f0 fd 20 ca 28 31 25-fc a6 00 00 fe 9d fc a6 System Halted I've scoured the FAQs, newsgrouops and the FreeBSD website and all other Readmes I could get my hands on, but nothing seems to mention problems with HP Vectra PCs. But then, who knows... I've ensured things such as PNP OS is turned off in my BIOS. I've even gone so far as to turn off the cache to see if that was a problem. I've gone to another HP Vectra with a Pentium 120 in it and the MFS Root floppy worked fine. I'm new to FreeBSD so I'm not entirely familiar with it. I've used Linux since '92 but I also want to become familiar with FreeBSD as well. I've installed Linux on the same machine with no problems, so I'm not sure where the problem lies. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Ivan Samuelson * Staff Support Coordinator and * bolski@netexp.net Information Systems Consultant * Metro Information Services * http://www.netexp.net/~bolski http://www.MetroIS.com * -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-install" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-install Fri Apr 30 17: 7:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-install@freebsd.org Received: from relay.veriguard.com (relay.veriguard.com [207.5.63.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F3A15587 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:07:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomb@heliox.com) Received: by relay.veriguard.com; id JAA02394; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:07:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unknown(10.5.63.100) by relay.veriguard.com via smap (4.1) id xma002390; Fri, 30 Apr 99 09:07:05 -0700 Message-ID: <372A45E4.509CBA66@heliox.com> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:08:04 -0700 From: Tom Brown X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-install@freebsd.org Subject: Suggestions for improvement of install and kernel compile. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-install@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I've done it again... Start a fresh install of 3.1 run through fdisk/disklabel/distributions then i get to the "would you like to visit the configuration screen to set any final options?" so I say 'Yes'. I go off and do what I need to do. then it happens... I manage to loose the end of the process and I can't find my way back into the final part of the install. As a result the next time boot, I can't, the install is only partially complete. I've done maybe 400 install of FreeBSD and I'm still making this mistake. Personally I'm not really too put off by this, but it's not good if a new user suffers this problem. Would some sort of sanity check be in order? (For the install not me!) My second gripe is the kernel configuration file. My lecturers would have marked it down for insufficient comments and there is no excuse. Why should I have to have a browser and a paper manual to find out the significance of the scbus0 controller? To name but one device. As I see it there is no excuse for the lack of comments. It's a particular painful experience if you want to produce a really lean kernel. An hour spent commenting this file would save a ton of work for the users... If anyone would like help doing this I will be more than happy to offer any assistance I can give. Apart from these gripes thanks for a great operating system. Tom Brown To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-install" in the body of the message