From owner-freebsd-isdn Fri Jan 1 03:02:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA28597 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 03:02:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gatekeeper.rhein.de (gatekeeper.rhein.de [193.175.27.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA28589 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 03:02:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from is@jocelyn.rhein.de) Received: from jocelyn.rhein.de (jocelyn.rhein.de [193.175.27.210]) by gatekeeper.rhein.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1-ws3) with ESMTP id MAA18091; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 12:01:45 +0100 (MET) Received: (from is@localhost) by jocelyn.rhein.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03619; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 12:07:44 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19990101120744.D3376@jocelyn.rhein.de> Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 12:07:44 +0100 From: Ignatios Souvatzis To: Barry Scott , freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: netstat -Iisp0 -w 1 -b -- reports doubled input bytes References: <000801be34ef$33189630$060110ac@barrynt.private> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <000801be34ef$33189630$060110ac@barrynt.private>; from Barry Scott on Thu, Dec 31, 1998 at 06:55:57PM -0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Dec 31, 1998 at 06:55:57PM -0000, Barry Scott wrote: > I just noticed that netstat is reporting 15610 bytes per second rather the > 7805 that I'd expect. > > Anyone else seen this problem? Yes. Same for me: 15055 or 18088 on output... a bit over 15000 for input. The values double if using -w 1. This is for: NetBSD jocelyn.rhein.de 1.3I NetBSD 1.3I (ISDN5) #20: Sun Dec 27 00:54:46 MET 1998 is@jocelyn.rhein.de:/build2/i4b/ISDN5 amiga Happy new year! Ignatios To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Fri Jan 1 03:15:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA29209 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 03:15:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from linteuto.teuto.de (linteuto.teuto.de [194.77.23.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA29204 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 03:15:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from martin@rumolt.teuto.de) Received: from rumolt.teuto.de (root@rumolt.teuto.de [212.8.203.81]) by linteuto.teuto.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA02146; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 12:15:02 +0100 Received: (from martin@localhost) by rumolt.teuto.de (8.8.8/8.8.7) id LAA02132; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 11:58:01 +0100 (MET) From: Martin Husemann Message-Id: <199901011058.LAA02132@rumolt.teuto.de> Subject: Re: Rates calculations and the U.K. To: hm@kts.org Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 11:58:00 +0100 (MET) Cc: barry@scottb.demon.co.uk, freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Hellmuth Michaelis" at Dec 31, 98 05:55:57 pm Organization: Crusaders Catering Services Inc. ;-) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Martin Husemann from time to time tries to inject strange macros from his > life in a parallel OO-universe into isdnd :-)) , but that made it so hard > (for me!) to understand the code after a month again and maintain it, that > i rejected and removed it because it costs too much of my time. Just nitpicking: the C++ version of that stuff would have been very easily readable. But converting template based collections to plain old macros and not being able to override operator [] makes it hard. So: the macros where not from my OO live, but the methods were. Happy new year! Martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Fri Jan 1 06:38:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA16669 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 06:38:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from aw.ivm.net (mail.ivm.net [62.204.1.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA16664 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 06:38:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ap@bnc.net) Received: from gemini.bnc.net (gemini.bnc.net [195.247.233.33]) by aw.ivm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA22796; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 15:37:52 +0100 X-To: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Received: (from ap@localhost) by gemini.bnc.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA32142; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 15:37:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ap) From: Achim Patzner Message-Id: <199901011437.PAA32142@gemini.bnc.net> Subject: Re: Rates calculations and the U.K. In-Reply-To: from Hellmuth Michaelis at "Dec 31, 1998 5:55:57 pm" To: hm@kts.org Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 15:37:44 +0100 (CET) Cc: barry@scottb.demon.co.uk, freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > The rates mechanism does not work for the U.K. with its tenth second > > billing. > > Its very difficult to implement for me for obvious reasons, so perhaps you > can work together towards a solution for this. Would it be too bad to remove it completely and rely on the charging information of the telco provider. Achim Patzner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Fri Jan 1 09:47:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03567 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 09:47:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from harvey.aball.de (harvey.aball.de [194.77.82.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA03561 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 09:47:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alice.turbocat.de!dave@harvey.aball.de) Received: by harvey.aball.de (Smail3.1.28.1 #11) id m0zw8ey-000J0KC; Fri, 1 Jan 99 18:46 MET Received: from cat.turbocat.de (cat.turbocat.de [194.77.82.49]) by alice.turbocat.de (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA09583; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 17:47:28 +0100 (CET) Received: (from dave@localhost) by cat.turbocat.de (8.8.5/8.7.3) id RAA00242; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 17:47:27 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199901011647.RAA00242@cat.turbocat.de> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148) From: David Wetzel Date: Fri, 1 Jan 99 17:47:26 +0100 To: Achim Patzner Subject: Re: Rates calculations and the U.K. cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199901011437.PAA32142@gemini.bnc.net> Organisation: Turbocat's Development http://www.turbocat.de Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > From: Achim Patzner > Would it be too bad to remove it completely and rely on the charging > information of the telco provider. You do not get this information in Germany if you make a non-local call and use another provider than the German Telekom. --- _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Fax +49 33056 82835 NeXTmail dave@turbocat.de (______) http://www.turbocat.de/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Fri Jan 1 10:37:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08637 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 10:37:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from aw.ivm.net (mail.ivm.net [62.204.1.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08630 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 10:37:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ap@bnc.net) Received: from gemini.bnc.net (gemini.bnc.net [195.247.233.33]) by aw.ivm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA31367; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 19:36:52 +0100 X-To: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Received: (from ap@localhost) by gemini.bnc.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA32402; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 19:36:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ap) From: Achim Patzner Message-Id: <199901011836.TAA32402@gemini.bnc.net> Subject: Re: Rates calculations and the U.K. In-Reply-To: <199901011647.RAA00242@cat.turbocat.de> from David Wetzel at "Jan 1, 1999 5:47:26 pm" To: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 19:36:42 +0100 (CET) Cc: ap@bnc.net, freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Would it be too bad to remove it completely and rely on the charging > > information of the telco provider. > > You do not get this information in Germany if you make a non-local call and > use another provider than the German Telekom. Hm. I've got an RWE (now Arcor) 1TR6 line which is providing AOC1 and AOC2. And as far as I understood AOC was required to get a license at all. I guess it's yet another "you get what. you pay for". Besides being the only reliable source of charging information Achim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Fri Jan 1 11:03:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA11205 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 11:03:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hcshh.hcs.de (hcshh.hcs.de [194.123.40.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA11200 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 11:03:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hm@hcs.de) Received: from hcswork.hcs.de([192.76.124.5]) (1611 bytes) by hcshh.hcs.de via sendmail with P:smtp/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 20:01:40 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #2 built 1998-Jun-26) Received: by hcswork.hcs.de (Smail3.1.29.0 #12) id m0zw9sZ-00001KC; Fri, 1 Jan 99 20:04 MET Message-Id: From: hm@hcs.de (Hellmuth Michaelis) Subject: Re: Rates calculations and the U.K. In-Reply-To: <199901011647.RAA00242@cat.turbocat.de> from David Wetzel at "Jan 1, 99 05:47:26 pm" To: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 20:04:59 +0100 (MET) Cc: ap@bnc.net, freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: hm@hcs.de Organization: HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >From the keyboard of David Wetzel: > > Would it be too bad to remove it completely and rely on the charging > > information of the telco provider. > > You do not get this information in Germany if you make a non-local call and > use another provider than the German Telekom. This will change, hopefully sooner than later. And i suspect that with this change a switch from unit-based billing to currency-based billing will take place. hellmuth -- Hellmuth Michaelis Tel +49 40 559747-70 HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH Fax +49 40 559747-77 Oldesloer Strasse 97-99 Mail hm [at] hcs.de 22457 Hamburg WWW http://www.hcs.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Fri Jan 1 11:10:45 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA11954 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 11:10:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA11949 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 11:10:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rene@canyon.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.15.212] (helo=canyon.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zw9xj-000245-00 for freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 19:10:19 +0000 Received: (from rene@localhost) by canyon.demon.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA00352 for freebsd-isdn@freebsd.org; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 19:58:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rene) From: Rene de Vries Message-Id: <199901011858.TAA00352@canyon.demon.nl> Subject: Re: beta 0.70 (ii) In-Reply-To: <19981230135806.A29911@hcswork.hcs.de> from Hellmuth Michaelis at "Dec 30, 98 01:58:06 pm" To: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 19:58:19 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I get the same messages "i4b-L1-timer4_expired: state = F3 Deactivated" when i pick up a normal (analog) phone (behind a Quadrovox; a small ISDN 'PABX') and dialing (part of) a number an then putting it down again. It always takes about 10 secs for the message to show-up. My config is: a Teles S0/16.3 card and a Quadrovox on the same S0 bus. The analog phones are then connected to the Quadrovox (there are no ISDN phones ;-(). I am located in the Netherlands. Here is the isdntrace of the senario described above: =========== isdntrace controller #0 =========== started Fri Jan 1 19:42:25 1999 -- NT->TE - unit:0 - frame:000001 - time:01.01 19:42:29.146517 - length:3 ------ Dump:000 00 c1 73 ..s Q921: SAP=0 (Call Control), R, TEI=96, U-Frame: UA PF 1 -- NT->TE - unit:0 - frame:000002 - time:01.01 19:42:29.224869 - length:4 ------ Dump:000 00 c1 01 02 .... Q921: SAP=0 (Call Control), R, TEI=96, S-Frame: RR N(R) 1 PF 0 -- NT->TE - unit:0 - frame:000003 - time:01.01 19:42:29.310381 - length:15 ----- Dump:000 02 c1 00 02 .... Q921: SAP=0 (Call Control), C, TEI=96, I-Frame: N(S) 0 N(R) 1 P 0 Dump:004 08 01 9d 0d 18 01 89 1e 02 82 88 ........... Q931: pd=Q.931/I.451, cr=0x1d (from destination), message=SETUP ACKNOWLEDGE: [channel id: channel=B-1 (exclusive)] [progress ind: Std=CCITT, Loc=Public network serving local user Description: In-band info or appropriate pattern now available] -- NT->TE - unit:0 - frame:000004 - time:01.01 19:42:32.798487 - length:4 ------ Dump:000 00 c1 01 04 .... Q921: SAP=0 (Call Control), R, TEI=96, S-Frame: RR N(R) 2 PF 0 -- NT->TE - unit:0 - frame:000005 - time:01.01 19:42:33.953760 - length:4 ------ Dump:000 00 c1 01 06 .... Q921: SAP=0 (Call Control), R, TEI=96, S-Frame: RR N(R) 3 PF 0 -- NT->TE - unit:0 - frame:000006 - time:01.01 19:42:34.590587 - length:4 ------ Dump:000 00 c1 01 08 .... Q921: SAP=0 (Call Control), R, TEI=96, S-Frame: RR N(R) 4 PF 0 -- NT->TE - unit:0 - frame:000007 - time:01.01 19:42:36.190728 - length:4 ------ Dump:000 00 c1 01 0a .... Q921: SAP=0 (Call Control), R, TEI=96, S-Frame: RR N(R) 5 PF 0 -- NT->TE - unit:0 - frame:000008 - time:01.01 19:42:36.766425 - length:4 ------ Dump:000 00 c1 01 0c .... Q921: SAP=0 (Call Control), R, TEI=96, S-Frame: RR N(R) 6 PF 0 -- NT->TE - unit:0 - frame:000009 - time:01.01 19:42:37. 21398 - length:4 ------ Dump:000 00 c1 01 0e .... Q921: SAP=0 (Call Control), R, TEI=96, S-Frame: RR N(R) 7 PF 0 -- NT->TE - unit:0 - frame:000010 - time:01.01 19:42:40.160047 - length:4 ------ Dump:000 00 c1 01 10 .... Q921: SAP=0 (Call Control), R, TEI=96, S-Frame: RR N(R) 8 PF 0 -- NT->TE - unit:0 - frame:000011 - time:01.01 19:42:50.201022 - length:4 ------ Dump:000 00 c1 01 11 .... Q921: SAP=0 (Call Control), R, TEI=96, S-Frame: RR N(R) 8 PF 1 -- NT->TE - unit:0 - frame:000012 - time:01.01 19:42:50.331116 - length:3 ------ Dump:000 02 c1 53 ..S Q921: SAP=0 (Call Control), C, TEI=96, U-Frame: DISC PF 1 -- NT->TE - unit:0 - frame:000013 - time:01.01 19:43:00.535110 - length:8 ------ Dump:000 fe ff 03 0f 00 00 04 c1 ........ Q921: SAP=63 (TEI-Management), C, TEI=127, Ri=0x0000, IdCheckReq, Ai=96 I expect the IdCheckReq to trigger this time-out, it surely happens (as far as I can see) at the same time. Rene > On Wed, Dec 30, 1998 at 12:47:45PM +0100, Andreas Gaertner wrote: > > On Wed, 30 Dec 1998, Hellmuth Michaelis wrote: > > > > > > so this is to be considered absolutely normal, isn't it? > > > > > > No, not quite. What you see is the "persistent deactivation" timeout > > > happening, which normally should not appear. Although i have no idea > > > why it happenes at your site. isdntrace with its various options is > > > your friend to find it out. > > > > ok, i will check that out. but as a matter of fact these messages show up > > after an amount of time a telephone call has taken place. > > I have a telephone connected to my ISDN test box too and there this does > not show up. > > So either this seems to be normal in certain environments and the messages > should not be considered an error or the exchange you are conneted to does > some strange things on the S0 (looking at your domain, is it possible that > you are connectd to a HICOM ? :-)) > > > maybe this is > > due to isdnd is permanently up because of the call out of /etc/rc.local? > > No. > > hellmuth -- Rene de Vries http://www.tcja.nl/~rene; mailto:rene@tcja.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Fri Jan 1 11:16:48 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12744 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 11:16:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hcshh.hcs.de (hcshh.hcs.de [194.123.40.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA12737 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 11:16:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hm@hcs.de) Received: from hcswork.hcs.de([192.76.124.5]) (2092 bytes) by hcshh.hcs.de via sendmail with P:smtp/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 20:14:50 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #2 built 1998-Jun-26) Received: by hcswork.hcs.de (Smail3.1.29.0 #12) id m0zwA5O-00001KC; Fri, 1 Jan 99 20:18 MET Message-Id: From: hm@hcs.de (Hellmuth Michaelis) Subject: Re: Rates calculations and the U.K. In-Reply-To: from Hellmuth Michaelis at "Jan 1, 99 08:04:59 pm" To: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 20:18:14 +0100 (MET) Cc: dave@turbocat.de, ap@bnc.net Reply-To: hm@hcs.de Organization: HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > Would it be too bad to remove it completely and rely on the charging > > > information of the telco provider. > > > > You do not get this information in Germany if you make a non-local call and > > use another provider than the German Telekom. > > This will change, hopefully sooner than later. And i suspect that with this > change a switch from unit-based billing to currency-based billing will take > place. Seeing Achim's reply to this, i think the above statement requires a bit of explanation, David's statement should have been: "if you make a non-local call - using call-by-call provider selection - and use another provider than the German Telekom originating from a Telekom line". Only under this scenario you currently don't get AOC, in case i understood the Telekom statement at that time, this happenes because of some missings in the SS7 protocol used to interconnect the various providers. This will change. hellmuth -- Hellmuth Michaelis Tel +49 40 559747-70 HCS Hanseatischer Computerservice GmbH Fax +49 40 559747-77 Oldesloer Strasse 97-99 Mail hm [at] hcs.de 22457 Hamburg WWW http://www.hcs.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Fri Jan 1 11:25:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13583 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 11:25:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from linteuto.teuto.de (linteuto.teuto.de [194.77.23.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13578 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 11:25:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from martin@rumolt.teuto.de) Received: from rumolt.teuto.de (root@rumolt.teuto.de [212.8.203.81]) by linteuto.teuto.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA13142; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 20:25:14 +0100 Received: (from martin@localhost) by rumolt.teuto.de (8.8.8/8.8.7) id UAA01801; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 20:25:02 +0100 (MET) From: Martin Husemann Message-Id: <199901011925.UAA01801@rumolt.teuto.de> Subject: Re: Rates calculations and the U.K. To: ap@bnc.net (Achim Patzner) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 20:25:01 +0100 (MET) Cc: dave@turbocat.de, ap@bnc.net, freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199901011836.TAA32402@gemini.bnc.net> from "Achim Patzner" at Jan 1, 99 07:36:42 pm Organization: Crusaders Catering Services Inc. ;-) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > You do not get this information in Germany if you make a non-local call and > > use another provider than the German Telekom. > > Hm. I've got an RWE (now Arcor) 1TR6 line which is providing AOC1 and AOC2. You don't get AOC's if you're line is from German Telekom and you use a call by call provider. That's why you can't use those prefixes from many hotel rooms ;-) Martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Fri Jan 1 11:32:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA14291 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 11:32:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.ppp.net (mail.ppp.net [194.64.12.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA14286 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 11:32:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ernie!bert.kts.org!hm@ppp.net) Received: from casparc.ppp.net (casparc2.ppp.net [194.64.12.42]) by mail.ppp.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA09350; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 20:32:02 +0100 Received: from ernie by casparc.ppp.net with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0zwAIj-002ZkjC; Fri, 1 Jan 99 20:32 MET Received: from bert.kts.org([194.55.156.2]) (1710 bytes) by ernie.kts.org via sendmail with P:smtp/R:smart_host/T:uux (sender: ) id for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 20:17:39 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2.0.103 1998-Oct-9 #3 built 1998-Dec-9) Received: from localhost (1260 bytes) by bert.kts.org via sendmail with P:stdio/R:smart_host/T:smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 20:17:49 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2.0.103 1998-Oct-9 #4 built 1998-Dec-26) Message-Id: From: hm@kts.org (Hellmuth Michaelis) Subject: Re: Rates calculations and the U.K. In-Reply-To: <199901011437.PAA32142@gemini.bnc.net> from Achim Patzner at "Jan 1, 1999 3:37:44 pm" To: ap@bnc.net (Achim Patzner) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 20:17:49 +0100 (CET) Cc: barry@scottb.demon.co.uk, freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Organization: Kitchen Table Systems Reply-To: hm@kts.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Achim Patzner wrote: > > > The rates mechanism does not work for the U.K. with its tenth second > > > billing. > > > > Its very difficult to implement for me for obvious reasons, so perhaps you > > can work together towards a solution for this. > > Would it be too bad to remove it completely and rely on the charging > information of the telco provider. As far as i understood it when Andrew Gordon explained it to me, there is no charging info available from the provider. hellmuth -- Hellmuth Michaelis hm@kts.org Hamburg, Europe We all live in a yellow subroutine, yellow subroutine, yellow subroutine ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Fri Jan 1 11:54:04 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA16177 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 11:54:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gatekeeper.rhein.de (gatekeeper.rhein.de [193.175.27.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA16137 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 11:54:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from is@jocelyn.rhein.de) Received: from jocelyn.rhein.de (jocelyn.rhein.de [193.175.27.210]) by gatekeeper.rhein.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1-ws3) with ESMTP id UAA00257; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 20:53:30 +0100 (MET) Received: (from is@localhost) by jocelyn.rhein.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA04059; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 20:20:35 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19990101202035.B3972@jocelyn.rhein.de> Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 20:20:35 +0100 From: Ignatios Souvatzis To: David Wetzel , Achim Patzner Cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Rates calculations and the U.K. References: <199901011437.PAA32142@gemini.bnc.net> <199901011647.RAA00242@cat.turbocat.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199901011647.RAA00242@cat.turbocat.de>; from David Wetzel on Fri, Jan 01, 1999 at 05:47:26PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jan 01, 1999 at 05:47:26PM +0100, David Wetzel wrote: > > From: Achim Patzner > > > Would it be too bad to remove it completely and rely on the charging > > information of the telco provider. > > You do not get this information in Germany if you make a non-local call and > use another provider than the German Telekom. I don't know about customers doing ALL their business with other providers, but at least call-by-call customers do not get this information when selecting a different provider for the call. -is To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Fri Jan 1 14:53:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA04289 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 14:53:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peedub.muc.de (newpc.muc.ditec.de [194.120.126.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA04283 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 14:53:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from garyj@peedub.muc.de) Received: from peedub.muc.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by peedub.muc.de (8.9.1/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA68240 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 23:22:36 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199901012222.XAA68240@peedub.muc.de> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Rates calculations and the U.K. Reply-To: Gary Jennejohn In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 01 Jan 1999 15:37:44 +0100." <199901011437.PAA32142@gemini.bnc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1999 23:22:36 +0100 From: Gary Jennejohn Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Achim Patzner writes: >> > The rates mechanism does not work for the U.K. with its tenth second >> > billing. >> >> Its very difficult to implement for me for obvious reasons, so perhaps you >> can work together towards a solution for this. > >Would it be too bad to remove it completely and rely on the charging >information of the telco provider. > NO !!! not everyone has that service (I'm one of 'em - that's the reason I originally did the rates stuff for bisdn). --- Gary Jennejohn Home - garyj@muc.de Work - garyj@fkr.dec.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Fri Jan 1 14:54:18 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA04345 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 14:54:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from scottb.demon.co.uk (scottb.demon.co.uk [158.152.42.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA04340 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 14:54:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from barry@scottb.demon.co.uk) Received: from barrynt (barrynt.private [172.16.1.6]) by scottb.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA00481; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 22:52:16 GMT (envelope-from barry@scottb.demon.co.uk) From: "Barry Scott" To: , "Achim Patzner" Cc: Subject: RE: Rates calculations and the U.K. Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 22:48:24 -0000 Message-ID: <000001be35d8$d6e45990$060110ac@barrynt.private> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Achim, The issue is deciding when to disconnect the call when using dial on demand. Knowing the actual cost of calls made is a secondard concern that I do not require solving. Barry > -----Original Message----- > From: Hellmuth Michaelis [mailto:hm@kts.org] > Sent: 01 January 1999 19:18 > To: Achim Patzner > Cc: barry@scottb.demon.co.uk; freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Rates calculations and the U.K. > > > Achim Patzner wrote: > > > > > The rates mechanism does not work for the U.K. with its tenth second > > > > billing. > > > > > > Its very difficult to implement for me for obvious reasons, > so perhaps you > > > can work together towards a solution for this. > > > > Would it be too bad to remove it completely and rely on the charging > > information of the telco provider. > > As far as i understood it when Andrew Gordon explained it to me, there is > no charging info available from the provider. > > hellmuth > -- > Hellmuth Michaelis hm@kts.org > Hamburg, Europe > We all live in a yellow subroutine, yellow subroutine, yellow > subroutine ... > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Fri Jan 1 15:56:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10021 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 15:56:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from harvey.aball.de (harvey.aball.de [194.77.82.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA10010 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 15:56:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alice.turbocat.de!dave@harvey.aball.de) Received: by harvey.aball.de (Smail3.1.28.1 #11) id m0zwEQN-000J0LC; Sat, 2 Jan 99 00:56 MET Received: from cat.turbocat.de (cat.turbocat.de [194.77.82.49]) by alice.turbocat.de (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA14601 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 00:38:47 +0100 (CET) Received: (from dave@localhost) by cat.turbocat.de (8.8.5/8.7.3) id AAA00876 for freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 00:38:46 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199901012338.AAA00876@cat.turbocat.de> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148) From: David Wetzel Date: Sat, 2 Jan 99 00:38:45 +0100 To: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Suggestion (Was Re: Rates calculations and the U.K. ) References: <199901012222.XAA68240@peedub.muc.de> Organisation: Turbocat's Development http://www.turbocat.de Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > From: Gary Jennejohn > NO !!! not everyone has that service (I'm one of 'em - that's the reason I > originally did the rates stuff for bisdn). But it would be very nice for a start if the deamon would write a file like this for every call on the bus (not only the one from the ISDN-card): STARTTIME ENDTIME SOURCENUMBER TARGETNUMBER Lutz Donnerhacke has written a "trennummer.y" that divides telefonenumbers into country code, city code and phone number ( Trennt Telefonnummern in Deutschland ueblicher Wihlweise in Landeskennung, Stadtkennung und Durchwahl. ) Based on this we could do a lot fine things. --- _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Fax +49 33056 82835 NeXTmail dave@turbocat.de (______) http://www.turbocat.de/ DEVELOPMENT * CONSULTING * ADMINISTRATION To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sat Jan 2 01:32:30 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA29217 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 01:32:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.ppp.net (mail.ppp.net [194.64.12.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA29212 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 01:32:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ernie!bert.kts.org!hm@ppp.net) Received: from casparc.ppp.net (casparc2.ppp.net [194.64.12.42]) by mail.ppp.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA13876; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 10:32:02 +0100 Received: from ernie by casparc.ppp.net with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0zwNPe-002ZjZC; Sat, 2 Jan 99 10:32 MET Received: from bert.kts.org([194.55.156.2]) (1589 bytes) by ernie.kts.org via sendmail with P:smtp/R:smart_host/T:uux (sender: ) id for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 10:21:41 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2.0.103 1998-Oct-9 #3 built 1998-Dec-9) Received: from localhost (1141 bytes) by bert.kts.org via sendmail with P:stdio/R:smart_host/T:smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 10:21:52 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2.0.103 1998-Oct-9 #4 built 1998-Dec-26) Message-Id: From: hm@kts.org (Hellmuth Michaelis) Subject: Re: Suggestion (Was Re: Rates calculations and the U.K. ) In-Reply-To: <199901012338.AAA00876@cat.turbocat.de> from David Wetzel at "Jan 2, 1999 0:38:45 am" To: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 10:21:51 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Organization: Kitchen Table Systems Reply-To: hm@kts.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David Wetzel wrote: > But it would be very nice for a start if the deamon would write a file like > this for every call on the bus (not only the one from the ISDN-card): > > STARTTIME ENDTIME SOURCENUMBER TARGETNUMBER This is impossible. You need a second card (or a chipset being able to "listen" on the tx wires) to be able to do this for everything on a given bus. hellmuth -- Hellmuth Michaelis hm@kts.org Hamburg, Europe We all live in a yellow subroutine, yellow subroutine, yellow subroutine ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sat Jan 2 01:53:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA00939 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 01:53:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peedub.muc.de (peedub.muc.de [193.174.4.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA00933 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 01:53:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from garyj@peedub.muc.de) Received: from peedub.muc.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by peedub.muc.de (8.9.1/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA72734 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 10:51:36 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199901020951.KAA72734@peedub.muc.de> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Suggestion (Was Re: Rates calculations and the U.K. ) Reply-To: Gary Jennejohn In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 02 Jan 1999 00:38:45 +0100." <199901012338.AAA00876@cat.turbocat.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 10:51:36 +0100 From: Gary Jennejohn Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David Wetzel writes: >> From: Gary Jennejohn > >> NO !!! not everyone has that service (I'm one of 'em - that's the reason I >> originally did the rates stuff for bisdn). > >But it would be very nice for a start if the deamon would write a file like >this for every call on the bus (not only the one from the ISDN-card): > >STARTTIME ENDTIME SOURCENUMBER TARGETNUMBER > >Lutz Donnerhacke has written a "trennummer.y" that >divides telefonenumbers into country code, city code and phone number > >( >Trennt Telefonnummern in Deutschland ueblicher Wihlweise in Landeskennung, >Stadtkennung und Durchwahl. >) > >Based on this we could do a lot fine things. > this information is basically in isdnd.acct and Hellmuth provides an example script to munge the data. --- Gary Jennejohn Home - garyj@muc.de Work - garyj@fkr.dec.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sat Jan 2 03:02:28 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA04818 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 03:02:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.ppp.net (mail.ppp.net [194.64.12.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA04813 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 03:02:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ernie!bert.kts.org!hm@ppp.net) Received: from casparc.ppp.net (casparc2.ppp.net [194.64.12.42]) by mail.ppp.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA14359; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 12:02:01 +0100 Received: from ernie by casparc.ppp.net with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0zwOoj-002ZjZC; Sat, 2 Jan 99 12:02 MET Received: from bert.kts.org([194.55.156.2]) (1528 bytes) by ernie.kts.org via sendmail with P:smtp/R:smart_host/T:uux (sender: ) id for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 11:58:55 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2.0.103 1998-Oct-9 #3 built 1998-Dec-9) Received: from localhost (1080 bytes) by bert.kts.org via sendmail with P:stdio/R:smart_host/T:smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 11:59:06 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2.0.103 1998-Oct-9 #4 built 1998-Dec-26) Message-Id: From: hm@kts.org (Hellmuth Michaelis) Subject: Re: beta 0.70 (ii) In-Reply-To: <199901011858.TAA00352@canyon.demon.nl> from Rene de Vries at "Jan 1, 1999 7:58:19 pm" To: rene@canyon.demon.nl (Rene de Vries) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 11:59:06 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Organization: Kitchen Table Systems Reply-To: hm@kts.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rene de Vries wrote: > I get the same messages "i4b-L1-timer4_expired: state = F3 Deactivated" when > i pick up a normal (analog) phone (behind a Quadrovox; a small ISDN 'PABX') > and dialing (part of) a number an then putting it down again. It always takes > about 10 secs for the message to show-up. I'm going to have a detailed look at this. hellmuth -- Hellmuth Michaelis hm@kts.org Hamburg, Europe We all live in a yellow subroutine, yellow subroutine, yellow subroutine ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sat Jan 2 05:52:06 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA19355 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 05:52:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.gtn.com (mail.gtn.com [194.77.0.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA19349 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 05:52:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.gtn.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id OAA03763 for freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 14:45:13 +0100 (MET) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA34412 for freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 14:14:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas) Message-ID: <19990102141435.A34405@klemm.gtn.com> Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 14:14:35 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: the newly imported i4b works just fine in 3.0-current, thanks Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT SMP Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Many thanks to Hellmut, Poul, Jordan and the others to make that happen ! Happy new year ! -- Andreas Klemm http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas What gives you 90% more speed, for example, in kernel compilation ? http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~fsmp/SMP/akgraph-a/graph1.html "NT = Not Today" (Maggie Biggs) ``powered by FreeBSD SMP'' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sat Jan 2 05:52:13 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA19397 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 05:52:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.gtn.com (mail.gtn.com [194.77.0.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA19371 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 05:52:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.gtn.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id OAA03764 for isdn@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 14:45:18 +0100 (MET) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA34717 for isdn@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 14:22:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas) Message-ID: <19990102142251.B34405@klemm.gtn.com> Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 14:22:51 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: suggestion for i4b startup in FreeBSD .... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT SMP Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi ! I'm currently using Hellmuth's rc.isdn as is. In /etc/rc.conf I have an environment variable i4b="NO" # Suppress Startup of I4B i4b="DPN" # Start i4b and feed the argument DPN # to the rc.isdn script rc.network looks like this, from here rc.isdn is fired up. I put it in after interface initialization and just before setting defaultrouter. --- /usr/src/etc/rc.network Fri Nov 27 08:06:11 1998 +++ rc.network Tue Dec 29 01:26:52 1998 @@ -100,6 +100,11 @@ atm_pass2 fi + # i4b + if [ "x$i4b" != "xNO" ]; then + /bin/sh /etc/rc.isdn $i4b + fi + # Configure routing if [ "x$defaultrouter" != "xNO" ] ; then Additionally one virtual console has to be turned off for the i4b daemon which I started on vty2. --- /usr/src/etc/etc.i386/ttys Wed Sep 2 03:34:57 1998 +++ ttys Sat Jan 2 14:21:45 1999 @@ -11,7 +11,7 @@ ttyv0 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure # Virtual terminals ttyv1 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure -ttyv2 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 on secure +ttyv2 "/usr/libexec/getty Pc" cons25 off secure ttyv3 "/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon" xterm off secure # Serial terminals # The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd etc. What do you think of that ? -- Andreas Klemm http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas What gives you 90% more speed, for example, in kernel compilation ? http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~fsmp/SMP/akgraph-a/graph1.html "NT = Not Today" (Maggie Biggs) ``powered by FreeBSD SMP'' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sat Jan 2 05:52:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA19679 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 05:52:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.gtn.com (mail.gtn.com [194.77.0.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA19651 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 05:52:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andreas@klemm.gtn.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.gtn.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with UUCP id OAA03761; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 14:45:10 +0100 (MET) Received: (from andreas@localhost) by klemm.gtn.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA34399; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 14:12:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from andreas) Message-ID: <19990102141228.A34101@klemm.gtn.com> Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 14:12:28 +0100 From: Andreas Klemm To: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: hm@hcs.de Subject: patch for layer1/i4b_isic.c (silence noisy debug message) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i X-Disclaimer: A free society is one where it is safe to be unpopular X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT SMP Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi ! I get tons of WARNING: unit %d, No IRQ from HSCX/ISAC! messages from layer1/i4b_isic.c (FreeBSD-current, SMP). If I remember right Hellmuth told me, that this is a not needed debug message. I commented it out and now my console window calms down ;-) Please tell me if I can remove this debug message or if I should put a wrapper around it like below just for the case it might be needed again in the future. cvs diff: Diffing . Index: i4b_isic.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/i4b/layer1/i4b_isic.c,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 i4b_isic.c --- i4b_isic.c 1998/12/27 21:46:45 1.1 +++ i4b_isic.c 1999/01/02 13:08:39 @@ -171,7 +171,9 @@ { #endif if((was_hscx_irq == 0) && (was_isac_irq == 0)) +#if 0 DBGL1(L1_ERROR, "isicintr", ("WARNING: unit %d, No IRQ from HSCX/ISAC!\n", sc->sc_unit)); +#endif #ifdef ELSA_QS1ISA } #endif -- Andreas Klemm http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas What gives you 90% more speed, for example, in kernel compilation ? http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~fsmp/SMP/akgraph-a/graph1.html "NT = Not Today" (Maggie Biggs) ``powered by FreeBSD SMP'' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sat Jan 2 07:27:40 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA25561 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 07:27:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from linteuto.teuto.de (linteuto.teuto.de [194.77.23.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA25555 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 07:27:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from martin@rumolt.teuto.de) Received: from rumolt.teuto.de (root@rumolt.teuto.de [212.8.203.81]) by linteuto.teuto.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA03756; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:27:11 +0100 Received: (from martin@localhost) by rumolt.teuto.de (8.8.8/8.8.7) id QAA01654; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:13:31 +0100 (MET) From: Martin Husemann Message-Id: <199901021513.QAA01654@rumolt.teuto.de> Subject: Re: Suggestion (Was Re: Rates calculations and the U.K. ) To: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:13:30 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199901012338.AAA00876@cat.turbocat.de> from "David Wetzel" at Jan 2, 99 00:38:45 am Organization: Crusaders Catering Services Inc. ;-) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > But it would be very nice for a start if the deamon would write a file like > this for every call on the bus (not only the one from the ISDN-card): This is not easy. It's easy for the calls made by isdnd, but not the rest. I'm going to add a "snoop the S0 bus for other activity" option someday, as I'm needing this for an enhancement of the monitor stuff. When it works it will be available via a socket to isdnd, so a simple daemon could dump and/or analyze it any way you like. We might even add an option to dump it directly into a file. Martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sat Jan 2 07:39:44 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA26102 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 07:39:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from harvey.aball.de (harvey.aball.de [194.77.82.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA26068 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 07:39:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alice.turbocat.de!dave@harvey.aball.de) Received: by harvey.aball.de (Smail3.1.28.1 #11) id m0zwT8w-000J0LC; Sat, 2 Jan 99 16:39 MET Received: from cat.turbocat.de (cat.turbocat.de [194.77.82.49]) by alice.turbocat.de (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA27195 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:24:28 +0100 (CET) Received: (from dave@localhost) by cat.turbocat.de (8.8.5/8.7.3) id QAA00394 for freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:24:26 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199901021524.QAA00394@cat.turbocat.de> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148) From: David Wetzel Date: Sat, 2 Jan 99 16:24:25 +0100 To: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Suggestion (Was Re: Rates calculations and the U.K. ) References: Organisation: Turbocat's Development http://www.turbocat.de Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > From: hm@kts.org (Hellmuth Michaelis) > > STARTTIME ENDTIME SOURCENUMBER TARGETNUMBER > > This is impossible. You need a second card (or a chipset being able to > "listen" on the tx wires) to be able to do this for everything on a given > bus. Someone told me that his ISDN card (which is in a linux box) can do this. Would you please explain what is possible and what not? Confused, --- _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Fax +49 33056 82835 NeXTmail dave@turbocat.de (______) http://www.turbocat.de/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sat Jan 2 07:43:44 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA26759 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 07:43:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from linteuto.teuto.de (linteuto.teuto.de [194.77.23.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA26754 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 07:43:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from martin@rumolt.teuto.de) Received: from rumolt.teuto.de (root@rumolt.teuto.de [212.8.203.81]) by linteuto.teuto.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA04047; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:43:14 +0100 Received: (from martin@localhost) by rumolt.teuto.de (8.8.8/8.8.7) id QAA02604; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:42:58 +0100 (MET) From: Martin Husemann Message-Id: <199901021542.QAA02604@rumolt.teuto.de> Subject: Re: patch for layer1/i4b_isic.c (silence noisy debug message) To: andreas@klemm.gtn.com (Andreas Klemm) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:42:57 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG, hm@hcs.de In-Reply-To: <19990102141228.A34101@klemm.gtn.com> from "Andreas Klemm" at Jan 2, 99 02:12:28 pm Organization: Crusaders Catering Services Inc. ;-) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > WARNING: unit %d, No IRQ from HSCX/ISAC! [..] > If I remember right Hellmuth told me, that this is a not needed > debug message. I commented it out and now my console window calms > down ;-) This is a debug-only message and it's sometimes caused without a reason to worry, but in most situations you should not see this message! You'll get this message when the isic interrupt handler was called and there was no reason for an interrupt found. This is supposed to happen: - on the Amiga (shared ISA interrupts) - on PCI cards (level triggered interrupts might be shared) - on PCMCIA cards (all cards on one pcmcia controller share an interrupt) It should never happen: - on ISA or ISAPNP cards on the i386 There realy are two problems mixed here, and the right solution is to extend the struct isic_softc by a new flag: interrupt might be shared. If this flag is set by the bus-specific attachment code the interrupt handler should not complain but return 0 (interrupt not for me). If this flag is set and the interrupt was from this card we should also play the "mask all interrupts and reenable them" game, if the cards driver does not provide a special "clrirq" routine. This is all part of some restructuring needed, that was delayed to get the beta in a stable state out of the door... Martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sat Jan 2 07:44:20 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA26861 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 07:44:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA26856 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 07:44:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06617; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:42:43 +0100 (CET) To: Andreas Klemm cc: isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: suggestion for i4b startup in FreeBSD .... In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 02 Jan 1999 14:22:51 +0100." <19990102142251.B34405@klemm.gtn.com> Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 16:42:43 +0100 Message-ID: <6615.915291763@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >I'm currently using Hellmuth's rc.isdn as is. > >In /etc/rc.conf I have an environment variable >i4b="NO" # Suppress Startup of I4B >i4b="DPN" # Start i4b and feed the argument DPN > # to the rc.isdn script > >What do you think of that ? I have not quite analyzed the startup situation yet, but will welcome patches. One thing about the full-screen mode, we should take one of the higher syscons screens, I belive the default is that there are 16 available, so leaving #4 for X we should take #5. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." "ttyv0" -- What UNIX calls a $20K state-of-the-art, 3D, hi-res color terminal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sat Jan 2 09:11:23 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03419 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 09:11:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from aw.ivm.net (mail.ivm.net [62.204.1.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03412 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 09:11:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ap@bnc.net) Received: from gemini.bnc.net (gemini.bnc.net [195.247.233.33]) by aw.ivm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA08128; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 18:11:08 +0100 X-To: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Received: (from ap@localhost) by gemini.bnc.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA39025; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 18:10:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ap) From: Achim Patzner Message-Id: <199901021710.SAA39025@gemini.bnc.net> Subject: Re: Suggestion (Was Re: Rates calculations and the U.K. ) In-Reply-To: <199901021524.QAA00394@cat.turbocat.de> from David Wetzel at "Jan 2, 1999 4:24:25 pm" To: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 18:10:57 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > From: hm@kts.org (Hellmuth Michaelis) > > You need a chipset being able to "listen" on the tx wires ^^^^^^^^ ^^ ^^ > > Someone told me that his ISDN card (which is in a linux box) can do this. My AVM B1 card would be permitting this too... > Would you please explain what is possible and what not? Nobody (except the NT-2) is supposed to be monitoring the TX lines of the S bus which is making it a bit harder to find out what the devices on the same bus you are connected to are doing. To provide consistent information you'll have to listen to that pair too - with a second card with "wrong" cabling. Achim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sat Jan 2 09:17:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04134 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 09:17:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from theoryx.cs.uni-bonn.de (theoryx.cs.uni-bonn.de [131.220.4.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04127 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 09:16:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ignatios@theoryx.cs.uni-bonn.de) Received: from cosinus.cs.uni-bonn.de (IDENT:root@cosinus [131.220.4.181]) by theoryx.cs.uni-bonn.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA20987; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 18:16:21 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ignatios@localhost) by cosinus.cs.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA02622; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 18:16:21 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <19990102181620.A2581@cosinus.cs.uni-bonn.de> Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 18:16:20 +0100 From: Ignatios Souvatzis To: Martin Husemann , Andreas Klemm Cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG, hm@hcs.de Subject: Re: patch for layer1/i4b_isic.c (silence noisy debug message) Mail-Followup-To: Martin Husemann , Andreas Klemm , freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG, hm@hcs.de References: <19990102141228.A34101@klemm.gtn.com> <199901021542.QAA02604@rumolt.teuto.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199901021542.QAA02604@rumolt.teuto.de>; from Martin Husemann on Sat, Jan 02, 1999 at 04:42:57PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Jan 02, 1999 at 04:42:57PM +0100, Martin Husemann wrote: > This is supposed to happen: > - on the Amiga (shared ISA interrupts) ZBUS, not ISA. > - on PCI cards (level triggered interrupts might be shared) > - on PCMCIA cards (all cards on one pcmcia controller share an interrupt) > > It should never happen: > - on ISA or ISAPNP cards on the i386 > > There realy are two problems mixed here, and the right solution is to extend > the struct isic_softc by a new flag: interrupt might be shared. If this flag > is set by the bus-specific attachment code the interrupt handler should not > complain but return 0 (interrupt not for me). > > If this flag is set and the interrupt was from this card we should also play > the "mask all interrupts and reenable them" game, if the cards driver does > not provide a special "clrirq" routine. Uhm.... for the Amiga there was no fiddling needed, if I recall right. I suggest to separate the functions - "private interupt" flag enabling that debug message - "clear interupt" routine, which might be NULL meaning "dont call it". [or maybe make it mandatory, and provide a null function... considering that we won't see any VAX port (with the hight-overhead calls) soon, maybe this is faster?)] On i386 ISA, set "private interupt" to "1" and "clear interupt" to 0. For shared interupt cards that nead explicit clearing, put a function there that does the right thing. The board-specific attach function probably knows best what to do. Ignatios -- * Progress (n.): The process through which Usenet has evolved from smart people in front of dumb terminals to dumb people in front of smart terminals. -- obs@burnout.demon.co.uk (obscurity) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sat Jan 2 10:02:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08019 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 10:02:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.ppp.net (mail.ppp.net [194.64.12.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08011 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 10:02:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ernie!bert.kts.org!hm@ppp.net) Received: from casparc.ppp.net (casparc2.ppp.net [194.64.12.42]) by mail.ppp.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA16821; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 19:02:02 +0100 Received: from ernie by casparc.ppp.net with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0zwVNB-002ZjZC; Sat, 2 Jan 99 19:02 MET Received: from bert.kts.org([194.55.156.2]) (3677 bytes) by ernie.kts.org via sendmail with P:smtp/R:smart_host/T:uux (sender: ) id for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 18:44:03 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2.0.103 1998-Oct-9 #3 built 1998-Dec-9) Received: from localhost (3229 bytes) by bert.kts.org via sendmail with P:stdio/R:smart_host/T:smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 18:44:14 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2.0.103 1998-Oct-9 #4 built 1998-Dec-26) Message-Id: From: hm@kts.org (Hellmuth Michaelis) Subject: Re: Suggestion (Was Re: Rates calculations and the U.K. ) In-Reply-To: <199901021524.QAA00394@cat.turbocat.de> from David Wetzel at "Jan 2, 1999 4:24:25 pm" To: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 18:44:14 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Organization: Kitchen Table Systems Reply-To: hm@kts.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David Wetzel wrote: > > This is impossible. You need a second card (or a chipset being able to > > "listen" on the tx wires) to be able to do this for everything on a given > > bus. > > Someone told me that his ISDN card (which is in a linux box) can do this. > > Would you please explain what is possible and what not? Think about the following scenario: You have an S0 bus, an NT and two devices on the S0 bus, i.e. one ISDN telephone (TE1) and an machine running i4b (TE2): || || +--------- +------->--| R |+------>--| X || || | TE1 - ISDN telephone || +----<--| T || |+---<--| X || || +--------- || || || || +--------- +------->--| R |+------>--| X || || | TE2 - i4b machine || +----<--| T || |+---<--| X || || +--------- ^^ vv || || +------------+ | TX RX | | | | NT | The NT's TX lines is connected to every TE's RX lines, so every TE can "hear" what the NT "says": This way anybody on the S0 bus "hears" who is calling. The NT's RX lines are connected to every TE's TX lines so the NT is the _only_ (!) device, which can "hear" all the TE's TX lines: this means TE2 cannot "hear" whom TE1 is calling and vice versa. In case you want to "hear" everything on the S0 bus, you have to put a second card into the i4b machine and connect that cards RX lines to the NT's RX lines, that way you are able to "hear" what every other device sends to the NT. This is supported in i4b in the isdntrace program by means of the so called "analyze mode" which i use heavily in the development of i4b: put 2 cheap card into a 386, solder a cable (documented in cable.txt) install FreeBSD & i4b and you have an ISDN bus analyzer almost for free (in case you recognize what commercial vendors will charge you for such a device). Now, there is a mechanism specified to prevent contention of the S0 bus which involves some "echo" bits (explaining this here goes much too far, so in case you want to understand that, study the respective standards text) with which you might be able to read out the NT's RX lines on the TE side. Wether a manufacturer of a given chipset allows a programmer to access those echo bits depends on the chipset being used: the Siemens chipsets i4b currently supports do not have a mechanism built in to allow access to the echo bits. Thats it. hellmuth -- Hellmuth Michaelis hm@kts.org Hamburg, Europe We all live in a yellow subroutine, yellow subroutine, yellow subroutine ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sat Jan 2 10:28:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA11242 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 10:28:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from designport.com (designport.com [204.134.94.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA11237 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 10:28:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from greg@cyberport.com) Received: from host (pumba.designport.com [204.134.94.52]) by designport.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA04392 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 11:38:32 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from greg@cyberport.com) From: "Greg Hughes" To: Subject: NetGear ISDN external TA XM128 with FreeBSD? Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 11:28:07 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2212 (4.71.2419.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm haven't been able to find any info ref this in the searchable archives. If this mesage would be better posted in another area, please feel free to point me in the right direction, I don't want to increase the clutter. I have a Netgear (Bay Networks) ISDN model XM128 enternal terminal adapter (what they call a digital modem) that I want to use to replace my extrnal analog modem on my FreeBSD 2.2.5) machine. I am using PPP to dial and establish my connection to my ISP, and ther FreeBSD machine acts as a sort of router, or forwarder, or what have you. I was able to get the ISDN TA to make attempts at dialing, but it is not authenticating or connecting, and seems to be generally confused. My connection uses data over voice and requires CHAP to be turned off. I am dialing into a Livingston.3Com PM-3, if that is relevant in any way. Has anyone had experience using this particualr model (XM128u - North American) with any success? Thanks in advance. ------------- Greg Hughes greg@designport.com ICQ 6209815 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sat Jan 2 11:31:01 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA18203 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 11:31:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from silver.gn.iaf.nl (silver.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA18182 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 11:30:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by silver.gn.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA04182; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 20:30:26 +0100 Received: by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl with UUCP id AA07748 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Sat, 2 Jan 1999 20:01:56 +0100 Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.8.8/8.6.12) id TAA14873; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 19:51:35 +0100 (CET) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199901021851.TAA14873@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: beta 0.70 (ii) In-Reply-To: from Hellmuth Michaelis at "Jan 2, 99 11:59:06 am" To: hm@kts.org Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 19:51:35 +0100 (CET) Cc: rene@canyon.demon.nl, freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-Pgp-Info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As Hellmuth Michaelis wrote... > Rene de Vries wrote: > > > I get the same messages "i4b-L1-timer4_expired: state = F3 Deactivated" when > > i pick up a normal (analog) phone (behind a Quadrovox; a small ISDN 'PABX') > > and dialing (part of) a number an then putting it down again. It always takes > > about 10 secs for the message to show-up. > > I'm going to have a detailed look at this. If anybody needs more ISDN trace output from a Dutch switch just tell me. I have two different TAs (Moduvox, which is a 2x POTS TA and a Motorola Bitsurfr which is 2x POTS & 1x data) on the S0 bus shared with the i4b machine. Wilko _ ______________________________________________________________________ | / o / / _ Bulte email: wilko@yedi.iaf.nl |/|/ / / /( (_) Arnhem, The Netherlands WWW : http://www.tcja.nl ______________________________________________ Powered by FreeBSD __________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sat Jan 2 11:33:24 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA18541 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 11:33:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from harvey.aball.de (harvey.aball.de [194.77.82.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA18532 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 11:33:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alice.turbocat.de!dave@harvey.aball.de) Received: by harvey.aball.de (Smail3.1.28.1 #11) id m0zwWmw-000J0LC; Sat, 2 Jan 99 20:32 MET Received: from cat.turbocat.de (cat.turbocat.de [194.77.82.49]) by alice.turbocat.de (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA00115 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 20:31:15 +0100 (CET) Received: (from dave@localhost) by cat.turbocat.de (8.8.5/8.7.3) id UAA00520 for freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 20:31:14 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199901021931.UAA00520@cat.turbocat.de> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148) From: David Wetzel Date: Sat, 2 Jan 99 20:31:13 +0100 To: ISDN-List Subject: AnsweringMachine Organisation: Turbocat's Development http://www.turbocat.de Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks, my AnsweringMachine for i4b (code name iFon) detects DTMF codes now. The DTMF code is by Poul-Henning Kamp . Features: (* = not jet done but in progres, o = done) o playback of welcome sound (can be different for each MSN and Caller) o recording of the noise on the callers side (saved as raw and as NeXT/Sun .snd/.au) o mail notify with time, caller, and MSN (I use this for pager@turbocat.de :-) o detection of the DTMF tones and login function * playback of recorded messages via phone line * deleting of recorded messages via phone line * executing commands via phone line For NetBSD/i386 i can provide an binary version that is statically linked against libobjc and libgnustep-base. All other have to install egcs and GNUstep-Base. I am interested if the program works on other platforms too (NetBSD/amiga, atari, FreeBSD, ...). If you are interested and have a current egcs and GNUstep-Base installed mail me. This is my current config file: (it is a NSDictionary and is parsed by libgnustep-base) { USERS = { "1234" = { NAME = "David Wetzel"; WELCOMESND = "/usr/local/lib/isdn/hello3305682834.g711a"; MENU = { "0" = DELETE; "1" = BACK; "2" = PLAY; "3" = FORWARD; "#" = HELP; /* planed: the sound you hear when you enter this menu WELCOMESND = "/dev/null";*/ HELPSND = "/usr/local/lib/isdn/dave_help_main.g711a"; "4" = { HELPSND = "/usr/local/lib/isdn/dave_help_cmds.g711a"; WELCOMESND = "/usr/local/lib/isdn/dave_welcome_in_cmds.g711a"; "#" = HELP; "*" = UP; "1" = "/usr/local/bin/ipup"; "0" = "/usr/local/bin/pppkill"; }; }; }; }; GREETINGS = { "82834" = { unknown = "/usr/local/lib/isdn/hellopause.g711a"; DEFAULT = "/usr/local/lib/isdn/dwhello.g711a"; "305269123" = "/usr/local/lib/isdn/hallo305269123.g711a"; }; }; FAILSND = "/usr/local/lib/isdn/TryAgain.g711a"; BEEPSND = "/usr/local/lib/isdn/beep.g711a"; } --- _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Fax +49 33056 82835 NeXTmail dave@turbocat.de (______) http://www.turbocat.de/ DEVELOPMENT * CONSULTING * ADMINISTRATION WATCH OUT FOR TURBOFAX for OPENSTEP! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sat Jan 2 13:43:46 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03310 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:43:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from linteuto.teuto.de (linteuto.teuto.de [194.77.23.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03302 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:43:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from martin@rumolt.teuto.de) Received: from rumolt.teuto.de (root@rumolt.teuto.de [212.8.203.81]) by linteuto.teuto.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA12161; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 22:43:16 +0100 Received: (from martin@localhost) by rumolt.teuto.de (8.8.8/8.8.7) id WAA04078; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 22:28:13 +0100 (MET) From: Martin Husemann Message-Id: <199901022128.WAA04078@rumolt.teuto.de> Subject: Re: Suggestion (Was Re: Rates calculations and the U.K. ) To: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 22:28:13 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199901021524.QAA00394@cat.turbocat.de> from "David Wetzel" at Jan 2, 99 04:24:25 pm Organization: Crusaders Catering Services Inc. ;-) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Would you please explain what is possible and what not? Depending on the harware (as Hellmuth explained) its sometimes impossible to get all information. But in many situations at least some information can be gathered. I'm interested primarily in B-channel usage info: I want to know which B-channel is free, which is used by an outgoing call and which by an incoming. This info should be derivable from the responses of the NT, even when the TE's info (i.e. destination number) is not known. And if your ISDN gives you cost information, this should be available for all calls. Martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sat Jan 2 13:43:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03325 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:43:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from linteuto.teuto.de (linteuto.teuto.de [194.77.23.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03305 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:43:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from martin@rumolt.teuto.de) Received: from rumolt.teuto.de (root@rumolt.teuto.de [212.8.203.81]) by linteuto.teuto.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA12167; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 22:43:18 +0100 Received: (from martin@localhost) by rumolt.teuto.de (8.8.8/8.8.7) id WAA04635; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 22:42:59 +0100 (MET) From: Martin Husemann Message-Id: <199901022142.WAA04635@rumolt.teuto.de> Subject: Re: patch for layer1/i4b_isic.c (silence noisy debug message) To: is@jocelyn.rhein.de (Ignatios Souvatzis) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 22:42:59 +0100 (MET) Cc: andreas@klemm.gtn.com, freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG, hm@hcs.de In-Reply-To: <19990102181620.A2581@cosinus.cs.uni-bonn.de> from "Ignatios Souvatzis" at Jan 2, 99 06:16:20 pm Organization: Crusaders Catering Services Inc. ;-) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Uhm.... for the Amiga there was no fiddling needed, if I recall right. You #ifdef !__Amiga__ the message ;-) > I suggest to separate the functions > > - "private interupt" flag enabling that debug message > - "clear interupt" routine, which might be NULL meaning "dont call it". That's exactly what I tried to say (only you reversed the flag). We already have a "clrirq" function pointer in struct isic_softc, which is usualy NULL, but used on the ELSA QuickStep 1000 ISA and the ELSA MicroLink ISDN/MC. The later driver uses a completely generic version that could be used for all ISAC/HSCX based cards, and a generic IPAC version could be written easily. > The board-specific attach function probably knows best what to do. Not always, see for example the Atari vs. edge triggered ISA interrupts problem. My proposal is: set "private interrupt" by the bus specific attach code (on the ISA bus set it if an edge triggered interrupt could not be allocated and we fall back to the level triggered one). Set a function pointer to a clrirq routine when the card needs this always or has a special (more efficient) way to acomplish it. In the interrupt handler, if we found a source for an interrupt: - call the clrirq routine, if it is not NULL (as needed by the ELSA QuickStep) - if not "private interrupt" is set, call the generic clrirq routine for the current chipset type (ISAC/IPAC) Maybe we would save a few cycles if the bus specific attach code handles all this and sets sc->clearirq to the generic routine after running the card specific attach code, if that didn't set a clrirq function by itself and the interrupt is not private. Martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sat Jan 2 13:57:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05008 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:57:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from aw.ivm.net (mail.ivm.net [62.204.1.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05002 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:57:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ap@bnc.net) Received: from gemini.bnc.net (gemini.bnc.net [195.247.233.33]) by aw.ivm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA14908; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 22:57:21 +0100 X-To: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Received: (from ap@localhost) by gemini.bnc.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA39373; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 22:57:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ap) From: Achim Patzner Message-Id: <199901022157.WAA39373@gemini.bnc.net> Subject: Re: NetGear ISDN external TA XM128 with FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: from Greg Hughes at "Jan 2, 1999 11:28: 7 am" To: greg@cyberport.com (Greg Hughes) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 22:57:07 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > point me in the right direction, I guess this isn't... > I don't want to increase the clutter. Netgear? -----> trash can (this pointer will help you uncluttering) I absolutely hate their stuff... > I was able to get the ISDN TA to make attempts at dialing, but it is not > authenticating or connecting, and seems to be generally confused. A TA is a rather moronic piece of hardware and shouldn't have anything to do with the higher levels of data communication. But there is a number of them (like the German ELSA TAs) which insist on doing some kind of async <-> sync conversion (as they call it). ComOS doesnm't like this at all. If that's not the reason you should take another look into the PPP FAQ. > My connection uses data over voice and requires CHAP to be turned off. I > am dialing into a Livingston.3Com PM-3, if that is relevant in any way. How are they doing their authentication if not by CHAP? PAP? Calling-station-id? (It's generally a good idea to let ComOS decide and permit it to use any authentication mechanism it knows about.) Another thought: Are you sure you're using the required layer 2 and 3 protocols? ComOS is able to handle anything it gets - if nobody deactivated the features. Ask your ISP's tech support to take a look at the debugging output of their Porthamster - they should be able to help you. Achim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sat Jan 2 14:12:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06820 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 14:12:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from aw.ivm.net (mail.ivm.net [62.204.1.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA06814 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 14:12:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ap@bnc.net) Received: from gemini.bnc.net (gemini.bnc.net [195.247.233.33]) by aw.ivm.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA15348; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 23:11:58 +0100 X-To: freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Received: (from ap@localhost) by gemini.bnc.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA39425; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 23:11:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ap) From: Achim Patzner Message-Id: <199901022211.XAA39425@gemini.bnc.net> Subject: Re: Rates calculations and the U.K. In-Reply-To: <000001be35d8$d6e45990$060110ac@barrynt.private> from Barry Scott at "Jan 1, 1999 10:48:24 pm" To: barry@scottb.demon.co.uk (Barry Scott) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 23:11:45 +0100 (CET) Cc: hm@kts.org, ap@bnc.net, freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > The issue is deciding when to disconnect the call when using dial on > demand. I knew; I had a number of discussions about that topic with the developer of the infamous BANZAI routers. After a number of attempts at table driven routines they decided to go for AOC2 as the German Telekom neither guaranteed that the first unit was as long as the following units nor that open calls would always be accounted at the current rate (i.e. would be charged by the rate of the time the connection was made). Achim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isdn Sat Jan 2 14:13:43 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06948 for freebsd-isdn-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 14:13:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gatekeeper.rhein.de (gatekeeper.rhein.de [193.175.27.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA06942 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 14:13:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from is@jocelyn.rhein.de) Received: from jocelyn.rhein.de (jocelyn.rhein.de [193.175.27.210]) by gatekeeper.rhein.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1-ws3) with ESMTP id XAA00483; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 23:13:08 +0100 (MET) Received: (from is@localhost) by jocelyn.rhein.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA05877; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 23:06:28 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19990102230627.F4922@jocelyn.rhein.de> Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 23:06:27 +0100 From: Ignatios Souvatzis To: Martin Husemann Cc: andreas@klemm.gtn.com, freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG, hm@hcs.de Subject: Re: patch for layer1/i4b_isic.c (silence noisy debug message) References: <19990102181620.A2581@cosinus.cs.uni-bonn.de> <199901022142.WAA04635@rumolt.teuto.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199901022142.WAA04635@rumolt.teuto.de>; from Martin Husemann on Sat, Jan 02, 1999 at 10:42:59PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Jan 02, 1999 at 10:42:59PM +0100, Martin Husemann wrote: > > Uhm.... for the Amiga there was no fiddling needed, if I recall right. > You #ifdef !__Amiga__ the message ;-) I wanted to say: Uhm.... for the Amiga there was no fiddling needed, if I recall right, to clear the interupt. -is To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isdn" in the body of the message