From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 7 5:26:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.249.195.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CE9C14C22 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 05:26:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paulo@nlink.com.br) Received: from localhost (paulo@localhost) by mirage.nlink.com.br (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA27470 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 10:25:50 -0300 (EST) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 10:25:49 -0300 (EST) From: Paulo Fragoso To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: PPPD runnig after logout Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, After upgrade from 2.2.6-stable (pppd 2.2) to 3.1-release some pppd don't exit after modem disconect. When this happen there aren't DTR and CD signal on modem. I think that without CD pppd exit and is started new getty. I make temporally solution adding "idle" option. After this time pppd exit and new getty start. But this serial line (and modem) don't receive connection during this time because there aren't DTR signal and getty. I'm using modem option with pppd, but don't work fine more. Why this happening? My config files are: cat /usr/local/etc/pwin #!/bin/sh /usr/bin/mesg n /usr/bin/tty -echo exec /usr/sbin/pppd idle 1200 -detach modem crtscts netmask 255.255.255.192 auth login +pap dns1 200.249.195.3 dns2 200.249.195.5 domain nlink.com.br exit /etc/ttys ttycXX "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" vt100 on insecure /etc/gettytab std.115200|115200-baud:\ :de#3:np:sp#115200:pp=/usr/local/etc/pwin: Thanks, Paulo Fragoso. ------ " ... Overall we've found FreeBSD to excel in performace, stability, technical support, and of course price. Two years after discovering FreeBSD, we have yet to find a reason why we switch to anything else" -David Filo, Yahoo! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 7 14:29:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from send101.yahoomail.com (send101.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A578A14DD3 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 14:29:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from holtor@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19990307222759.25507.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.191.59.130] by send101.yahoomail.com; Sun, 07 Mar 1999 14:27:59 PST Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 14:27:59 -0800 (PST) From: Holtor Subject: User Account Due Dates To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I want to setup a system, so when I have one of my users login via telnet/ssh, in the motd it prints the date thier account is due and how much they owe. I was looking into ways using /etc/profile and then having a file for each user containing how much they owe and their due date. I was hopeing there is an easier way to do this. Please let me know. Thanks, Holt _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 7 17:27:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dns1.briang.org (c879583-a.ptbrg1.sfba.home.com [24.1.122.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4475714D39; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 17:27:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@briang.org) Received: from brian-desktop (brian-desktop.briang.org [192.168.0.42]) by dns1.briang.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA01490; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 18:35:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000401be6902$d5f66b60$2a00a8c0@brian-desktop.briang.org> Reply-To: "Brian Gallucci" From: "Brian Gallucci" To: "FreeBSD" Cc: Subject: Firewall Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 17:27:31 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have noticed something very odd on my DNS server and was hoping someone could thell me what this means.. ipfw: 6300 Deny TCP 168.160.224.88:0 24.MY.IP.xxx:143 in via fxp0 ipfw: 65534 Deny ICMP:4.0 192.168.15.2 192.168.0.42 in via fxp0 My box has two nics with NATD running.. fxp0 = 24.MY.IP.xxx 255.255.255.0 fxp1 = 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.0 How did 192.168.15.2 get in ? This is private address space and my ISP does not have a route for anything on 192.168.0.0/16 so I'm try to figure out how they got to me and how they got in ? Next is there some kind of hole that has surfaced on port 143 ? I keep getting alot of connections on port 143.. I have the port blocked just wondering.. Thanks -Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 7 17:41:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dns1.briang.org (c879583-a.ptbrg1.sfba.home.com [24.1.122.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9C714F1A; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 17:41:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@briang.org) Received: from brian-desktop (brian-desktop.briang.org [192.168.0.42]) by dns1.briang.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA01519; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 18:49:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000301be6904$cffe7ca0$2a00a8c0@brian-desktop.briang.org> Reply-To: "Brian Gallucci" From: "Brian Gallucci" To: "FreeBSD" Cc: Subject: IPFW Books Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 17:41:40 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anyone know of any good books on IPFW and NATD ? Thanks -Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 7 19:41:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D09014CFB; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 19:41:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id OAA27083; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 14:10:58 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id OAA14258; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 14:10:57 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19990308141057.K490@lemis.com> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 14:10:57 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Brian Gallucci , FreeBSD Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPFW Books References: <000301be6904$cffe7ca0$2a00a8c0@brian-desktop.briang.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <000301be6904$cffe7ca0$2a00a8c0@brian-desktop.briang.org>; from Brian Gallucci on Sun, Mar 07, 1999 at 05:41:40PM -0800 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sunday, 7 March 1999 at 17:41:40 -0800, Brian Gallucci wrote: > Does anyone know of any good books on IPFW and NATD ? There's a chapter about them in "The Complete FreeBSD", second edition (http://www.cdrom.com/titles/os/bsdbook2.htm). Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 7 21:14:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rocket.cyber1.net (gnat-d0cede82.neptunedata.net [208.206.222.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B76414BEB for ; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 21:14:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pbrezny@cyber1.net) Received: by rocket.cyber1.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 00:17:30 -0500 Message-ID: <914078369F42D2118FE000600896E00003B46C@rocket.cyber1.net> From: Peter Brezny To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: fp server ext problems with name virtual hosts Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 00:17:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm having difficulty getting fpext to install on the name virtual hosts i have on my machine. they work fine from the web, but the fpsrvadm.exe program doesn't like the name virtual hosts. i have just installed the apache13-fp port that installs apache 1.3.4 and fpext v3.0 i'm running freebsd 2.2.8 running fpsrvadm.exe from /usr/local/frontpage/version3.0/bin gives the following (using either its interactive config or the command line switches) 'servername' is not a valid virtual server. however i have carefully followed the instructions for setting up name virtual hosts and they appear to work fine when you browse to them. i really appreciate any help or direction you can provide. Peter Brezny Cyber1.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 7 22:54:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.trace.net.tw (mail.trace.net.tw [202.80.128.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BE6C14E1E for ; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 22:54:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ronald@trace.net.tw) X-Comments: ****** Message sent through an Trace account ****** X-http: ****** http://www.trace.com.tw ****** Received: from trace.net.tw (ronald.trace.net.tw [202.80.128.81]) by mail.trace.net.tw (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id OAA06746 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 14:50:25 +0800 Message-ID: <36E37494.14798FFC@trace.net.tw> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 14:56:20 +0800 From: "Ronald Wiplinger (ÃQ¤¯¯Ç)" Organization: Wang's Trace.net.tw X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Ethernet card problem Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------B66FCB313F77F74255052C91" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------B66FCB313F77F74255052C91 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit It seems that I get a problem with my Ethernet card. I get following message on the screen: de0: abnormal interrupt: transmit underflow (raising X threshold to 96|256) de0: abnormal interrupt: transmit underflow (raising X threshold to 128|512) de0: abnormal interrupt: transmit underflow (raising X threshold to 160|1024) What does it mean, and how can I solve it? This error comes up, since I have installed the bandwidth filter of ETINC. The system crashs frequently after 2 hours of operation. I believe it is related to the above message. Suppose I have to change this Ethernet card (D-link) to a Intel Ethernet Express 100. How can I have two fxp* cards in one machine and still know which one is for which gateway ???? bye Ronald Wiplinger (ÃQ¤¯¯Ç) http://www.trace.net.tw (phone number = e-mail) e-mail: 0935869459@phonebook.com.tw or ronald@trace.net.tw --------------B66FCB313F77F74255052C91 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=big5; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Ronald Wiplinger (ÃQ¤¯¯Ç) Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Ronald Wiplinger (ÃQ¤¯¯Ç) n: Wiplinger (ÃQ¤¯¯Ç);Ronald org: Wangs Trace Tech. Enterprise adr: No. 11, Lane 96, Section 1;;Wen Hua 2nd Road, Linkou Hsian;Taipei Hsien;;24442;Taiwan, R.o.C. email;internet: ronald@trace.net.tw title: Gen. Manager tel;work: (02) 26090652+10, (0935) 869459 tel;fax: +886 2 2600-0132 tel;home: +886 2 2609-0652+80 note: We run an ISP & ITSP in Taiwan. Call me via netmeeting (203.67.189.35) x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------B66FCB313F77F74255052C91-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Mar 7 23:23: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ccsales.com (ccsales.com [216.0.22.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AAD114E46 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 23:23:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from randyk@ccsales.com) Received: from rknt2 (rkcasant2.hiper.net [209.0.203.99]) by ccsales.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id XAA14373; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 23:23:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990307232217.05073d50@ccsales.com> X-Sender: randyk@ccsales.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 23:22:17 -0800 To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Ronald_Wiplinger_=28=C3Q=A4=AF=AF=C7=29=22?= , "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" From: "Randy A. Katz" Subject: Re: Ethernet card problem In-Reply-To: <36E37494.14798FFC@trace.net.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Ronald, If the problem is with the Ethernet adapter then having two fxp's will be no problem. Assuming the fxp's are PCI based you will see fxp0 and fxp1 and will assign each an IP address and use them accordingly...I do this will a bunch of machines currently. If you are using the newer version of the driver you should investigate limiting the bandwith on the serial interface (eth0) as the later versions do not support limiting on devices other then the ETINC adapters... At 02:56 PM 3/8/99 +0800, Ronald Wiplinger (=C3Q=A4=AF=AF=C7) wrote: >It seems that I get a problem with my Ethernet card. I get following >message on the screen: > > > >de0: abnormal interrupt: transmit underflow (raising X threshold to >96|256) >de0: abnormal interrupt: transmit underflow (raising X threshold to >128|512) >de0: abnormal interrupt: transmit underflow (raising X threshold to >160|1024) > > >What does it mean, and how can I solve it? > > >This error comes up, since I have installed the bandwidth filter of >ETINC. The system crashs frequently after 2 hours of operation. I >believe it is related to the above message. > > >Suppose I have to change this Ethernet card (D-link) to a Intel Ethernet >Express 100. How can I have two fxp* cards in one machine and still know >which one is for which gateway ???? > > >bye > >Ronald Wiplinger (=C3Q=A4=AF=AF=C7) http://www.trace.net.tw (phone number= =3D >e-mail) >e-mail: 0935869459@phonebook.com.tw or ronald@trace.net.tw >Attachment Converted: "d:\eudorapgp\attach\vcard353.vcf" > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 8 0: 4:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from aniwa.sky (p54-max12.wlg.ihug.co.nz [216.100.145.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9362014E78 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 00:03:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrew@squiz.co.nz) Received: from aniwa.sky (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aniwa.sky (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA04484; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 21:03:12 +1300 (NZDT) Message-Id: <199903080803.VAA04484@aniwa.sky> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Holtor Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: User Account Due Dates In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 07 Mar 1999 14:27:59 -0800." <19990307222759.25507.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 21:03:12 +1300 From: Andrew McNaughton Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hello, I want to setup a system, so when I have > one of my users login via telnet/ssh, in the motd > it prints the date thier account is due and how > much they owe. I was looking into ways using > /etc/profile and then having a file for each > user containing how much they owe and their due date. > I was hopeing there is an easier way to do this. > Please let me know. Search for the word signature in the perlipc manual page. There's example code there which basically creates a tiny daemon process on a file socket which gets read from whenever the file gets accessed. You just substitute said socket for /etc/profile. under low usage conditions, the process will get swapped out if necessary. I'm not sure how well it handles multiple parallel connection attempts. Probably other things would break down first under. Alternatively hack your login programs. You will probably have to do separate modifications for ssh and telnet, and there may be some maintenance as you upgrade those programs, but it shouldn't be too difficult to make the mods. Andrew McNaughton Andrew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 8 4:43:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from titan.eclipse.co.uk (titan.eclipse.co.uk [195.188.32.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2375514BEC; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 04:43:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk ([195.188.32.31]) by titan.eclipse.co.uk (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id AAA24B5; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 12:43:33 +0000 Message-ID: <36E3C64E.33060E45@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 12:45:02 +0000 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Gallucci Cc: FreeBSD , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firewall References: <000401be6902$d5f66b60$2a00a8c0@brian-desktop.briang.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > How did 192.168.15.2 get in ? Probably spoofed. > I keep getting alot of connections on port 143.. IMAP. Some old IMAP daemons have well known security holes. See the CERT advisories for details. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 8 5:20: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from saucer.infostrm.com (unknown [216.37.30.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A56B14EA1 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 05:19:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from angrick@netdirect.net) Received: from fdc7.fdcredit.com ([216.37.30.7]) by saucer.infostrm.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA06267; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 08:00:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from angrick@netdirect.net) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990308130705.00badf64@netdirect.net> X-Sender: angrick@netdirect.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 08:07:05 -0500 To: Peter Brezny From: Andy Angrick Subject: Re: fp server ext problems with name virtual hosts Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How do the tags for virtual host appear in your httpd.conf file? -Andy At 12:17 AM 3/8/99 -0500, you wrote: >I'm having difficulty getting fpext to install on the name virtual hosts >i have on my machine. they work fine from the web, but the fpsrvadm.exe >program doesn't like the name virtual hosts. > >i have just installed the apache13-fp port that installs apache 1.3.4 >and fpext v3.0 > >i'm running freebsd 2.2.8 > >running fpsrvadm.exe from /usr/local/frontpage/version3.0/bin gives the >following (using either its interactive config or the command line >switches) > >'servername' is not a valid virtual server. > >however i have carefully followed the instructions for setting up name >virtual hosts and they appear to work fine when you browse to them. > >i really appreciate any help or direction you can provide. > >Peter Brezny >Cyber1.net > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 8 5:20:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gate.ldn.wdr.com (gate.ldn.wdr.com [193.82.179.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E4D14ECD; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 05:20:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Clem.Dye@wdr.com) Received: (from smap@localhost) by gate.ldn.wdr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA11003; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 13:20:06 GMT From: Clem.Dye@wdr.com Received: from inside(192.168.0.1) by gate via smap (V2.0) id xma010945; Mon, 8 Mar 99 13:19:52 GMT Received: from ln4p1129.ldn.swissbank.com (ln4p1129.ldn.swissbank.com [172.16.234.32]) by ln4p1013pos.ldn.swissbank.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06857; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 13:19:51 GMT Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by ln4p1129.ldn.swissbank.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6/WDR alpha evision: 1.7 $) with SMTP id NAA24441; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 13:19:44 GMT X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 13:19:31 +0000 Message-Id: Subject: RE: Re: IPFW Books MIME-Version: 1.0 To: brian@briang.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, grog@lemis.com Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="BDY.TXT" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="BDY.TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Processed-By: BrianWare hpomsmf V2.3.35, 6 May 1997 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hmmm. The web page points you to another link, ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/titles/os/bsdbook2.htm. Unfortunately, this link is broken or incorrect .... at least it was when I tried it just now. Clem -----Original Message----- From: grog Sent: 08 March 1999 03:41 To: brian; freebsd-questions Cc: grog; freebsd-isp Subject: Re: IPFW Books On Sunday, 7 March 1999 at 17:41:40 -0800, Brian Gallucci wrote: > Does anyone know of any good books on IPFW and NATD ? There's a chapter about them in "The Complete FreeBSD", second edition (http://www.cdrom.com/titles/os/bsdbook2.htm). Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 8 6:16: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from host07.rwsystems.net (kasie.rwsystems.net [209.197.192.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F54C14BEC for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 06:16:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwyatt@RWSystems.net) Received: from kasie.rwsystems.net([209.197.192.103]) (1742 bytes) by host07.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 08:05:31 -0600 (CST) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Dec-24) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 08:05:30 -0600 (CST) From: James Wyatt To: =?X-UNKNOWN?Q?Ronald_Wiplinger_=28=C3Q=A4=AF=AF=C7=29?= Cc: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Ethernet card problem In-Reply-To: <36E37494.14798FFC@trace.net.tw> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-ID: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Ronald Wiplinger (ÃQ¤¯¯Ç) wrote: [ ... ] > This error comes up, since I have installed the bandwidth filter of > ETINC. The system crashs frequently after 2 hours of operation. I > believe it is related to the above message. Now *that* is a "hard" bandwidth limiter! 8{( Has some polite (since I don't think he's getting paid for this) mail to Dennis helped? > Suppose I have to change this Ethernet card (D-link) to a Intel Ethernet > Express 100. How can I have two fxp* cards in one machine and still know > which one is for which gateway ???? You will save future headaches if you label the back of the cards. (fwiw: I usually label one 'O' for "Outside the 'wall" and interface '0'. I usually label the other 'I' for "Inside" and interface '1') On ISA cards, I use the setup utility to set the card to match kernel entries; slot order is independent. For PCI cards, I usually see it assign the lower numbered (PCI-slot wise) card to interface '0' and successive slots to successive cards. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 8 8:48:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rocket.cyber1.net (gnat-d0cede82.neptunedata.net [208.206.222.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD02F14EE4 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 08:48:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pbrezny@cyber1.net) Received: by rocket.cyber1.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 11:51:42 -0500 Message-ID: <914078369F42D2118FE000600896E00003B479@rocket.cyber1.net> From: Peter Brezny To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: name virtual host configuration and front page server extentions Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 11:51:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Could someone please verify if the following name virtual host configuration is correct. And if anyone has gotten fp server extentions to work with the new consolidated httpd.conf file that ships with the current apache13-fp port (the one that installs apache 1.3.4) I'd love to have a look at your configuration. Thanks for your time. Peter Brezny cyber1.net >namevirtualhost 10.4.2.203:80 > > >ServerPath / >ServerName defaultpage >DocumentRoot /usr/local/www/data/ ># >#you need the trailing / ># >CustomLog /var/log/httpd1-access.log combined > > > > >ServerAdmin pab@purplecat.net >ServerName purplecat.net >ServerPath /purplecat >DocumentRoot /usr/local/www/data/purplecat/ >ServerAlias purplecat.net *.purplecat.net >CustomLog /usr/local/www/data/purplecat/log/httpd-access.log combined > > > >ServerAdmin pabmppx@purplecat.net >ServerName mppx.org >ServerPath /mppx >DocumentRoot /usr/local/www/data/mppx/ >ServerAlias mppx.org *.mppx.org >CustomLog /usr/local/www/data/mppx/log/httpd-access.log combined > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 8 9:27: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from nocnoc.mcnet.ch (nocnoc.mcnet.ch [193.5.166.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61AEA14EB2 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 09:26:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Benoit.Rossier@mcnet.ch) Received: from pc15.mcnet.ch (pc15.mcnet.ch [193.5.166.35]) by nocnoc.mcnet.ch (8.9.2/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA17784 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 18:26:55 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990308183000.0303df44@nocnoc.mcnet.ch> X-Sender: brossier@nocnoc.mcnet.ch X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) [F] Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 18:30:00 +0100 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Benoit Rossier Subject: export restriction on nfs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Why it isn't possible to export directories like this: root@noc:~>more /etc/exports /nfs/srv1-mail -maproot=root 192.168.2.251 /nfs/srv1-ftp -maproot=root 192.168.2.251 /nfs/srv1-dns -maproot=root 192.168.2.251 /nfs/srv2-web -maproot=root 192.168.2.252 /nfs/srv2-web2 -maproot=root 192.168.2.252 Ok to do this I have two solutions: - export all the filesystem / - the same export file but specify the network 192.168.2 In both cases, there's a security problem because if a hacker cracks host1 he can mount the volume allowed for host2 and reverse. I think this a FreeBSD limitation but I'm not sure. Is this true? How can I do this? In relation: - what is the best protocol to use with nfs: udp or tcp? - Does the file locking work on FreeBSD? We use FreeBSD 3.1 for both, server and clients. Thanks for your time! Ben +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Benoit Rossier M&C Management & Communications SA | | Telecom Rue de Romont 35 | | CH - 1700 Fribourg | | | | voice: +41 (0)26 347 20 40 fax: +41 (0)26 347 20 49 | | E-Mail: Benoit.Rossier@mcnet.ch http://www.mcnet.ch | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 8 10:41:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mirage.nlink.com.br (mirage.nlink.com.br [200.249.195.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC4615224 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 10:41:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paulo@nlink.com.br) Received: from localhost (paulo@localhost) by mirage.nlink.com.br (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA09993 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 15:40:01 -0300 (EST) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 15:40:01 -0300 (EST) From: Paulo Fragoso To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Netstat Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm using netstat to know how is my ppp trafic. In my house I'm using this: netstat -I tun0 -i -w1 it's work fine. We have a ppp server with 64 ports in our ISP. We are using pppd (kernel). When I run 'netstat -I ppp0 -i -w1' it work fine but after ppp5 until ppp63, netstat show ed0 trafic. Is this a problem? Thanks, Paulo Fragoso. ------ " ... Overall we've found FreeBSD to excel in performace, stability, technical support, and of course price. Two years after discovering FreeBSD, we have yet to find a reason why we switch to anything else" -David Filo, Yahoo! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 8 14: 1:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from send101.yahoomail.com (send101.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 09A6A15335 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 14:01:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from holtor@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19990308220011.10946.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.191.51.72] by send101.yahoomail.com; Mon, 08 Mar 1999 14:00:10 PST Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 14:00:10 -0800 (PST) From: Holtor Subject: Printing User Specific Information To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I want to print some information when I have a user login. What I want it to do is print that info from a file, lets say /usr/files/user and have that print right after login prints the motd but before it checks if the user has any e-mail. If anyone has any ideas, please let me know, i've tried so many things already, this is my last resort. Thanks, Holt _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 8 14:55:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC56B14EE1; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 14:54:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id JAA01410; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 09:24:31 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id JAA17950; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 09:24:28 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19990309092427.H490@lemis.com> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 09:24:27 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Clem.Dye@wdr.com, brian@briang.org, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Re: IPFW Books References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Clem.Dye@wdr.com on Mon, Mar 08, 1999 at 01:19:31PM +0000 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Monday, 8 March 1999 at 13:19:31 +0000, Clem.Dye@wdr.com wrote: > On 08 March 1999 03:41, grog wrote: >> On Sunday, 7 March 1999 at 17:41:40 -0800, Brian Gallucci wrote: >>> Does anyone know of any good books on IPFW and NATD ? >> >> There's a chapter about them in "The Complete FreeBSD", second edition >> (http://www.cdrom.com/titles/os/bsdbook2.htm). > > Hmmm. The web page points you to another link, > ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/titles/os/bsdbook2.htm. Unfortunately, this link > is broken or incorrect .... at least it was when I tried it just now. Thanks for the feedback. Yes, the page is now at http://www.cdrom.com/titles/freebsd/bsdbook2.phtml. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 8 17:38:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gina.neland.dk (mail.neland.dk [194.255.12.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF6A14FBF for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 17:38:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@neland.dk) Received: from gina (gina [192.168.0.14]) by gina.neland.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA00658; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 02:37:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from root@neland.dk) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 02:37:54 +0100 (CET) From: Leif Neland To: Holtor Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Printing User Specific Information In-Reply-To: <19990308220011.10946.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Holtor wrote: > Hello, I want to print some information when I > have a user login. What I want it to do is > print that info from a file, lets say > /usr/files/user and have that print right after > login prints the motd but before it checks if the > user has any e-mail. Somewhere in /etc/profile: cat /usr/files/$LOGNAME To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 8 17:56:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.89.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2042514BDD; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 17:56:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) id VAA24303; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 21:05:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cjc) From: "Crist J. Clark" Message-Id: <199903090205.VAA24303@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Subject: Re: Printing User Specific Information In-Reply-To: <19990308220011.10946.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com> from Holtor at "Mar 8, 99 02:00:10 pm" To: holtor@yahoo.com (Holtor) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 21:05:34 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: cjclark@home.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Holtor wrote, > Hello, I want to print some information when I > have a user login. What I want it to do is > print that info from a file, lets say > /usr/files/user and have that print right after > login prints the motd but before it checks if the > user has any e-mail. Why can't this be in the motd? You need to give more details about what you are trying to do. > If anyone has any ideas, please let me know, i've > tried so many things already, this is > my last resort. Seen 'man msgs?' That's something else commonly added at startup. -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Mar 8 21:28:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from andromeda. (www.gordon.md.120.26.209.in-addr.arpa [209.26.120.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 477B414D97 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 21:28:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin@wholesalehosting.com) Received: from bob by andromeda. (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id AAA14213; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 00:30:09 -0500 Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 00:27:01 -0500 From: admin To: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: More Sendmail issues.. Reply-To: admin@wholesalehosting.com Message-Id: <36E4B12578.2DCDADMIN@domains.md> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.24 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To quote from my favorite Orielly book.. TCP/IP Network Administration... ( 'lil book with a good deal of everything) "In addition to the alias, sendmail allows individual users to define their own forwarding. The user defines her personal forwarding in the .forward file in her home directory." I don't have one of them... however.. all my users do get a .mail_aliases files upon account creation. Is this the same thing? What i want is to have a user local file for all my clients to add a slew of their own aliases, for friends and such. for example... Mail comes to my aliases file for my client who's domain is bobrules.net and is forwarded to the account 'bobrules' by the line @bobrules.net - So far i'm certain whats happening. The mail then sorts thru the .mail_aliases file below.. i hope doing what i'm implying below. .mail_aliases support offsite@yahoo.com admin somewhere@mindless.com looser guppy@tclslave.net is this right? if now.. how can i achieve what it appears i'm thinking =). Editing my alias' is not something i want to have to do except when adding a new domain under my belt. Clients change their minds to much. Thanks ------------------------------ Wholesale Hosting Inc. Po.Box 273 Davidsonville, MD 21035 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 9 4: 8: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from carme.eclipse.net.uk (carme.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFB7F15259 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 04:08:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by carme.eclipse.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09406; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:07:01 GMT Message-ID: <36E50F55.2207F92A@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 12:08:53 +0000 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: admin@wholesalehosting.com Cc: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: More Sendmail issues.. References: <36E4B12578.2DCDADMIN@domains.md> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > So far i'm certain whats happening. The mail then sorts thru the > .mail_aliases file below.. i hope doing what i'm implying below. > > .mail_aliases > support offsite@yahoo.com > admin somewhere@mindless.com > looser guppy@tclslave.net > > is this right? if now.. how can i achieve what it appears i'm > thinking =). Sendmail virtusertables will do this, but you'll have to build a program to munge the client aliases into the right format with @domain on the left-hand side (taking care not to let them set aliases for other people's domains ;-) then build them into a single file and generate the database files. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 9 8: 4:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F48814CC1 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 08:04:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Received: from dbsys (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA25321; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:07:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199903091607.LAA25321@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 11:16:28 -0500 To: "Randy A. Katz" , =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Ronald_Wiplinger_=28=C3Q=A4=AF=AF=C7=29=22?= , "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" From: Dennis Subject: Re: Ethernet card problem In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990307232217.05073d50@ccsales.com> References: <36E37494.14798FFC@trace.net.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 11:22 PM 3/7/99 -0800, Randy A. Katz wrote: >Hi Ronald, > >If the problem is with the Ethernet adapter then having two fxp's will be >no problem. Assuming the fxp's are PCI based you will see fxp0 and fxp1 and >will assign each an IP address and use them accordingly...I do this will a >bunch of machines currently. > >If you are using the newer version of the driver you should investigate >limiting the bandwith on the serial interface (eth0) as the later versions >do not support limiting on devices other then the ETINC adapters... This is not true at all. 90% of our customers using the ETBWMGR dont have serial cards, so this certainly isn't the case.=20 Randy's analysis is likely due to some old problems...and also because of the nature of his traffic. Typically, it is much more efficient to limit on the exiting interface...since he runs web sites the exiting interface is the T1/T3 card. For dual ethernet customers, you should set your limits on the ethernet interface that is on the internet router side of the connection So, for example if you have fxp0 on the lan with your web servicers and= fxp1 on the lan with your T1 router, the limits for the web sites should be set= on fxp1. There was a bug that could cause overloads on "IN" limits that has been= fixed in the most recent version. The problem that Ronald is seeing is not related to the BWMGR, but to a DMA problem on the card. "transmit underruns" (or underflows for it thats what the driver author called it") are typically caused when the controller cant get data fast enough (typically bus masters not able to get the bus in time= to fill the next data slot in a frame that is in the process of being transmitted).=20 Im not sure what card ronald is using, but if it is an isa bus-master card= you may just be overloading the bus. PCI should solve the problem Dennis > > >At 02:56 PM 3/8/99 +0800, Ronald Wiplinger (=C3Q=A4=AF=AF=C7) wrote: >>It seems that I get a problem with my Ethernet card. I get following >>message on the screen: >> >> >> >>de0: abnormal interrupt: transmit underflow (raising X threshold to >>96|256) >>de0: abnormal interrupt: transmit underflow (raising X threshold to >>128|512) >>de0: abnormal interrupt: transmit underflow (raising X threshold to >>160|1024) >> >> >>What does it mean, and how can I solve it? >> >> >>This error comes up, since I have installed the bandwidth filter of >>ETINC. The system crashs frequently after 2 hours of operation. I >>believe it is related to the above message. >> >> >>Suppose I have to change this Ethernet card (D-link) to a Intel Ethernet >>Express 100. How can I have two fxp* cards in one machine and still know >>which one is for which gateway ???? >> >> >>bye >> >>Ronald Wiplinger (=C3Q=A4=AF=AF=C7) http://www.trace.net.tw (phone= number =3D >>e-mail) >>e-mail: 0935869459@phonebook.com.tw or ronald@trace.net.tw >>Attachment Converted: "d:\eudorapgp\attach\vcard353.vcf" >> > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 9 9:37: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.areti.net (meteora.areti.com [194.207.26.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6C5F150BD for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 09:36:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ndear@areti.net) Received: from patras.areti.com (patras.areti.com [194.207.96.187]) by post.mail.areti.net (8.8.8/8.8.8/Areti-1.0.4) with SMTP id RAA26419 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 17:36:45 GMT Message-Id: <199903091736.RAA26419@post.mail.areti.net> From: "Nicholas J. Dear" Organization: Areti Internet Ltd. To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 17:36:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: POP3 boxes. Reply-To: ndear@areti.net X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We currently do POP3 boxes by creating a user and setting their shell to /bin/false and directing all mail to that account. Is there any other way to do it? If so, with what software, and would it require much work to implement? TIA. N. -- Nicholas J. Dear Mail: ndear@areti.net Tel: +44 (0)181-402-9689 Areti Internet Ltd., http://www.areti.co.uk/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 9 11:44:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 608) id 603B41537C; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:44:11 -0800 (PST) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Intrusion Detection Software Message-Id: <19990309194411.603B41537C@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:44:11 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A friend of mine has written an intrusion detection package called Dragon. He is looking for beta testers whose networks see a variety of traffic, both in terms of loading and in terms of types of ip traffic. If you are interested, send me email with information about your site. Ron is looking for 5 or 6 testers. Runs on FreeBSD, of course. Thanks, jmb -- Jonathan M. Bresler FreeBSD Core Team, Postmaster jmb@FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD--The Power to Serve JMB193 http://www.freebsd.org/ PGP 2.6.2 Fingerprint: 31 57 41 56 06 C1 40 13 C5 1C E3 E5 DC 62 0E FB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 9 12: 9:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from zoe.iserve.net (zoe.iserve.net [207.250.219.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C6B154DB for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:09:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rch@iserve.net) Received: from acidic (acidic.iserve.net [207.250.219.40]) by zoe.iserve.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA00502 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 15:08:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199903092008.PAA00502@zoe.iserve.net> X-Sender: rch@iserve.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 15:10:02 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Robert Hough Subject: Unable to allocate memory Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org One of our servers is constantly dying today. It keeps giving an error message that says "Unable to allocate memory". When this happens, we are unable to do anything, other than reboot the box, and bring it back up and wait for it to happen again. Does anyone know what could be causing this? The box is running FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE, and has been fairly stable up untill now. __ _______ |__| __|.-----.----.--.--.-----. .--------------------------------. | |__ || -__| _| | | -__| | Robert Hough (rch@iserve.net) | |__|_______||_____|__| \___/|_____| | 317-802-3036 -/- 317-876-0846 | ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 9 12:14:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from complx.LF.net (complx.LF.net [195.206.130.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1616154CF for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:14:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pi@complx.LF.net) Received: by complx.LF.net (Smail3.2.0.103/complx.LF.net) via LF.net GmbH Internet Services from pi for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG for host hub.FreeBSD.ORG id m10KSt4-000zyMC; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 21:13:58 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: Subject: Re: POP3 boxes. To: ndear@areti.net Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 21:13:58 +0100 (CET) From: "Kurt Jaeger" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199903091736.RAA26419@post.mail.areti.net> from "Nicholas J. Dear" at Mar 09, 1999 05:36:43 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! > We currently do POP3 boxes by creating a user and setting their shell to > /bin/false and directing all mail to that account. > > Is there any other way to do it? If so, with what software, and would it require > much work to implement? We did since in old times. Currently, we used a patched qpopper that looks up users in a seperate file, delivering into a shared pop directory. Working, but not yet under customer pressure is a similar scheme with domains (user has user@domain as pop username, it will be delivered to somepath/domain/user). This includes a small web interface so that domain owners can admin their POP accounts for themselves. Not yet userfriendly 8-} Based on smail, qpopper (secure/patched 2.4b1) and some handmade perl. Interested ? I'll take a few more days to be able to put it up for ano-ftp. -- MfG/Best regards, Kurt Jaeger 21 years to go ! LF.net GmbH pi@LF.net Vor dem Lauch 23 fon +49 711 90074-23 Friedrich-Ebert-Str.1 D-70567 Stuttgart fax +49 711 7289041 40210 Duesseldorf fon +49 211 179253-11 For Redmond: "nuke the site from orbit-- it's the only way to be sure." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 9 12:20:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.areti.net (meteora.areti.com [194.207.26.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BDD7155BA for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:20:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ndear@areti.net) Received: from patras.areti.com (patras.areti.com [194.207.96.187]) by post.mail.areti.net (8.8.8/8.8.8/Areti-1.0.4) with SMTP id UAA07484; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 20:21:12 GMT Message-Id: <199903092021.UAA07484@post.mail.areti.net> From: "Nicholas J. Dear" Organization: Areti Internet Ltd. To: "Kurt Jaeger" Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 20:21:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: POP3 boxes. Reply-To: ndear@areti.net Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: References: <199903091736.RAA26419@post.mail.areti.net> from "Nicholas J. Dear" at Mar 09, 1999 05:36:43 PM X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 9 Mar 99, at 21:13, Kurt Jaeger wrote: > Based on smail, qpopper (secure/patched 2.4b1) and some handmade perl. > > Interested ? I'll take a few more days to be able to put it up for > ano-ftp. Definitely interested, let me know the location. Cheers. N. -- Nicholas J. Dear Mail: ndear@areti.net Tel: +44 (0)181-402-9689 Areti Internet Ltd., http://www.areti.co.uk/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 9 13:46:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from host07.rwsystems.net (kasie.rwsystems.net [209.197.192.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC1A14D7F for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 13:46:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwyatt@RWSystems.net) Received: from kasie.rwsystems.net([209.197.192.103]) (1436 bytes) by host07.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 15:28:29 -0600 (CST) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Dec-24) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 15:28:24 -0600 (CST) From: James Wyatt To: "Nicholas J. Dear" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: POP3 boxes. In-Reply-To: <199903091736.RAA26419@post.mail.areti.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Of course there are other ways to do it, this is Unix, right? 8{) On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Nicholas J. Dear wrote: > We currently do POP3 boxes by creating a user and setting their shell to > /bin/false and directing all mail to that account. > > Is there any other way to do it? If so, with what software, and would it require > much work to implement? If you are doing it this way, however, I would recommend using /bin/passwd as it lets users telnet to change their passwords. You also want to ensure you deny them FTP access if they have valid accounts and shells. Your options depend on your POP server; most allow for other authenticaion mechanisms like DBM files, radius, and such. You will also want to use something other than /etc/passwd entries if you want to support hundreds or thousands of POP users. Knowing this group, more useful advice should be forthcoming - Jy@ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 9 13:46:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from host07.rwsystems.net (kasie.rwsystems.net [209.197.192.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1714B14F8B for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 13:46:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwyatt@RWSystems.net) Received: from kasie.rwsystems.net([209.197.192.103]) (2615 bytes) by host07.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 15:22:32 -0600 (CST) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Dec-24) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 15:22:12 -0600 (CST) From: James Wyatt To: Dennis Cc: "Randy A. Katz" , =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Ronald_Wiplinger_=28=C3Q=A4=AF=AF=C7=29=22?= , "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Ethernet card problem In-Reply-To: <199903091607.LAA25321@etinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Uh, IIRC, the de0 (which I'm using) and the fxp0 (which I think Richard Schulz is using) are both PCI cards. Might I speculate that the CPU and/or FreeBSD kernel could be too busy filtering to get back to the card fast enough? How strong is the CPU and how much traffic is flowing? fwiw: I have also seen PCI bus-mastering faults in older MB chipsets. - Jy@ btw: I *really* appreciate the availability of this filter! Thanks!! On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Dennis wrote: > The problem that Ronald is seeing is not related to the BWMGR, but to > a DMA problem on the card. "transmit underruns" (or underflows for it thats > what the driver author called it") are typically caused when the controller > cant get data fast enough (typically bus masters not able to get the bus in > time to fill the next data slot in a frame that is in the process of being > transmitted). > > Im not sure what card ronald is using, but if it is an isa bus-master card > you may just be overloading the bus. PCI should solve the problem On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Ronald Wiplinger wrote: > It seems that I get a problem with my Ethernet card. I get following > message on the screen: > > de0: abnormal interrupt: transmit underflow (raising X threshold to 96|256) > de0: abnormal interrupt: transmit underflow (raising X threshold to 128|512) > de0: abnormal interrupt: transmit underflow (raising X threshold to 160|1024) > > What does it mean, and how can I solve it? > > This error comes up, since I have installed the bandwidth filter of > ETINC. The system crashs frequently after 2 hours of operation. I > believe it is related to the above message. > > Suppose I have to change this Ethernet card (D-link) to a Intel Ethernet > Express 100. How can I have two fxp* cards in one machine and still know > which one is for which gateway ???? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 9 16:51:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.trace.net.tw (mail.trace.net.tw [202.80.128.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A0B14D1D for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 16:51:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ronald@trace.net.tw) X-Comments: ****** Message sent through an Trace account ****** X-http: ****** http://www.trace.com.tw ****** Received: from trace.net.tw (ronald.trace.net.tw [202.80.128.81]) by mail.trace.net.tw (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id IAA26315; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 08:47:32 +0800 Message-ID: <36E5C292.3F4961C1@trace.net.tw> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 08:53:38 +0800 From: "Ronald Wiplinger (ÃQ¤¯¯Ç)" Organization: Wang's Trace.net.tw X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dennis Cc: "Randy A. Katz" , "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Ethernet card problem References: <36E37494.14798FFC@trace.net.tw> <199903091607.LAA25321@etinc.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------AEDAF48B5FC3FC89F5B4217A" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------AEDAF48B5FC3FC89F5B4217A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dennis wrote: > Randy's analysis is likely due to some old problems...and also because > of the nature of his traffic. Typically, it is much more efficient to limit > on the exiting interface...since he runs web sites the exiting interface is > the T1/T3 card. For dual ethernet customers, you should set your limits on > the ethernet interface that is on the internet router side of the connection > So, for example if you have fxp0 on the lan with your web servicers and fxp1 > on the lan with your T1 router, the limits for the web sites should be set on > fxp1. > I cannot see why this is better, but I swapped it over. > There was a bug that could cause overloads on "IN" limits that has been fixed > in the most recent version. > > The problem that Ronald is seeing is not related to the BWMGR, but to > a DMA problem on the card. "transmit underruns" (or underflows for it thats > what the driver author called it") are typically caused when the controller > cant > get data fast enough (typically bus masters not able to get the bus in time to > fill the next data slot in a frame that is in the process of being > transmitted). > > Im not sure what card ronald is using, but if it is an isa bus-master card you > may just be overloading the bus. PCI should solve the problem It is a D-Link PCI card, ... I will though purchase an Intel Etherexpress, where I never had such experience. Could the crash of the computer be a result of the Ethernet card and this DMA problem, or is this not related. (The computer freeze after 1 to 12 hours, since I installed the bandwidth filter). However without the bandwidth filter the de0 was just plugged in and not used. I have some questions/suggestions to the program too: 1. How can I make the graphic available for my customers without giving them also the right to change the filter parameter? 2. The fields of Zoom and Enter Datem are not working 3. It would be nice if I could reverse the graph, since "in" and "out" does not always mean the same for the customer and me. 4. The copy right info is nice, but once per page enough. After some time viewing pages the copy right statement comes twice. 5. The filter rules could be made easier, if the Protocol field would have a selection, or at least the manual should have a list of supported Protocols. -- bye Ronald Wiplinger (ÃQ¤¯¯Ç) http://www.trace.net.tw (phone number = e-mail) e-mail: 0935869459@phonebook.com.tw or ronald@trace.net.tw --------------AEDAF48B5FC3FC89F5B4217A Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=big5; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Ronald Wiplinger (ÃQ¤¯¯Ç) Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Ronald Wiplinger (ÃQ¤¯¯Ç) n: Wiplinger (ÃQ¤¯¯Ç);Ronald org: Wangs Trace Tech. Enterprise adr: No. 11, Lane 96, Section 1;;Wen Hua 2nd Road, Linkou Hsian;Taipei Hsien;;24442;Taiwan, R.o.C. email;internet: ronald@trace.net.tw title: Gen. Manager tel;work: (02) 26090652+10, (0935) 869459 tel;fax: +886 2 2600-0132 tel;home: +886 2 2609-0652+80 note: We run an ISP & ITSP in Taiwan. Call me via netmeeting (203.67.189.35) x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------AEDAF48B5FC3FC89F5B4217A-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 9 17: 8:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.trace.net.tw (mail.trace.net.tw [202.80.128.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D21991507A for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 17:08:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ronald@trace.net.tw) X-Comments: ****** Message sent through an Trace account ****** X-http: ****** http://www.trace.com.tw ****** Received: from trace.net.tw (ronald.trace.net.tw [202.80.128.81]) by mail.trace.net.tw (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id JAA26479; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 09:03:53 +0800 Message-ID: <36E5C668.C3626C9D@trace.net.tw> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 09:10:00 +0800 From: "Ronald Wiplinger (ÃQ¤¯¯Ç)" Organization: Wang's Trace.net.tw X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Wyatt Cc: Dennis , "Randy A. Katz" , "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Ethernet card problem References: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------F2E5D7E1E78AC5A76489CE76" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------F2E5D7E1E78AC5A76489CE76 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit James Wyatt wrote: > > Uh, IIRC, the de0 (which I'm using) and the fxp0 (which I think Richard > Schulz is using) are both PCI cards. Might I speculate that the CPU and/or > FreeBSD kernel could be too busy filtering to get back to the card fast > enough? How strong is the CPU and how much traffic is flowing? fwiw: I > have also seen PCI bus-mastering faults in older MB chipsets. - Jy@ It is a P-II 350 with 128MB RAM top gives me usually a load of 0.05 0.01 0.0 CPU 0.0 user 0.0 nice 0.1 system 0.6 interrupt 99.3 idle MEM 11M Active 26M Inact 15M Wired 8346k Buf 71M Free The computer should handle 4 x 64k lines (later 8, with ETINC cards) and a class-c of chat servers and www servers (server co-location), whereby now only 4 are filterd, three with a single IP and one group of 4 computers with 14 IP addresses. I believe the power of the computer is enough to handle this load, and it is a dedicated computer, which does not do other jobs. I am planning to change the Ethernet card now to an Intel Etherexpress 100, and later to two 4port Ethernet cards, so that the distribution to 7 x 16-port HUB, each handling two enclosures with 15 computers, makes a filtering of 105 computer possible. Maybe I will upgrade RAM, .... > > btw: I *really* appreciate the availability of this filter! Thanks!! > > On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Dennis wrote: > > The problem that Ronald is seeing is not related to the BWMGR, but to > > a DMA problem on the card. "transmit underruns" (or underflows for it thats > > what the driver author called it") are typically caused when the controller > > cant get data fast enough (typically bus masters not able to get the bus in > > time to fill the next data slot in a frame that is in the process of being > > transmitted). > > > > Im not sure what card ronald is using, but if it is an isa bus-master card > > you may just be overloading the bus. PCI should solve the problem > > On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Ronald Wiplinger wrote: > > It seems that I get a problem with my Ethernet card. I get following > > message on the screen: > > > > de0: abnormal interrupt: transmit underflow (raising X threshold to 96|256) > > de0: abnormal interrupt: transmit underflow (raising X threshold to 128|512) > > de0: abnormal interrupt: transmit underflow (raising X threshold to 160|1024) > > > > What does it mean, and how can I solve it? > > > > This error comes up, since I have installed the bandwidth filter of > > ETINC. The system crashs frequently after 2 hours of operation. I > > believe it is related to the above message. > > > > Suppose I have to change this Ethernet card (D-link) to a Intel Ethernet > > Express 100. How can I have two fxp* cards in one machine and still know > > which one is for which gateway ???? -- bye Ronald Wiplinger (ÃQ¤¯¯Ç) http://www.trace.net.tw (phone number = e-mail) e-mail: 0935869459@phonebook.com.tw or ronald@trace.net.tw --------------F2E5D7E1E78AC5A76489CE76 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=big5; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Ronald Wiplinger (ÃQ¤¯¯Ç) Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Ronald Wiplinger (ÃQ¤¯¯Ç) n: Wiplinger (ÃQ¤¯¯Ç);Ronald org: Wangs Trace Tech. Enterprise adr: No. 11, Lane 96, Section 1;;Wen Hua 2nd Road, Linkou Hsian;Taipei Hsien;;24442;Taiwan, R.o.C. email;internet: ronald@trace.net.tw title: Gen. Manager tel;work: (02) 26090652+10, (0935) 869459 tel;fax: +886 2 2600-0132 tel;home: +886 2 2609-0652+80 note: We run an ISP & ITSP in Taiwan. Call me via netmeeting (203.67.189.35) x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------F2E5D7E1E78AC5A76489CE76-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 9 18: 4: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from aloha.cc.columbia.edu (aloha.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.59.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 840821505B for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 18:04:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stuyman@confusion.net) Received: from confusion.net (dialup-22-9.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.47.93]) by aloha.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA15650; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 21:03:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36E5D2CE.93F1DD1D@confusion.net> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 21:02:54 -0500 From: Laurence Berland Organization: B.R.A.T.T. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Wyatt Cc: "Nicholas J. Dear" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: POP3 boxes. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org With very little short term interest in setting this up, but perhaps as a long term venue, how exactly would I go about setting up a method other than user accounts for authentication James Wyatt wrote: > Of course there are other ways to do it, this is Unix, right? 8{) > > On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Nicholas J. Dear wrote: > > We currently do POP3 boxes by creating a user and setting their shell to > > /bin/false and directing all mail to that account. > > > > Is there any other way to do it? If so, with what software, and would it require > > much work to implement? > > If you are doing it this way, however, I would recommend using /bin/passwd > as it lets users telnet to change their passwords. You also want to ensure > you deny them FTP access if they have valid accounts and shells. > > Your options depend on your POP server; most allow for other authenticaion > mechanisms like DBM files, radius, and such. You will also want to use > something other than /etc/passwd entries if you want to support > hundreds or thousands of POP users. > > Knowing this group, more useful advice should be forthcoming - Jy@ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Laurence Berland, Stuyvesant HS Debate <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Windows 98: n. useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. http://stuy.debate.net icq #7434346 aol imer E1101 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 9 18:19:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sawasdee.cc.columbia.edu (sawasdee.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.59.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC93C15019 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 18:19:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stuyman@confusion.net) Received: from confusion.net (dialup-22-9.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.47.93]) by sawasdee.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA10261 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 21:19:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36E5D699.74C930C9@confusion.net> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 21:19:05 -0500 From: Laurence Berland Organization: B.R.A.T.T. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: FTP restriction Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org There was a thread either here or on -questions about how to disallow some users ftp login access and not disallow others. I unfortunately cannot track down the thread with the online search engine. If someone could either tell me how or point me to where this info is I'd be very appreciative. -- Laurence Berland, Stuyvesant HS Debate <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Windows 98: n. useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. http://stuy.debate.net icq #7434346 aol imer E1101 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 9 18:46:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shell.tccsweb.com (unknown [207.34.208.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 990A715084 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 18:46:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brentr@tccsweb.com) Received: from cs60409-a (funsailor@24.64.73.216.ab.wave.home.com [24.64.73.216]) by shell.tccsweb.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA12190; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 22:08:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from brentr@tccsweb.com) Message-ID: <001401be6aa0$06707ee0$0100a8c0@cs60409-a.cgmo1.ab.wave.home.com> From: "Brent Rector" To: "Laurence Berland" , Subject: Re: FTP restriction Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 19:42:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3007.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3007.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Laurence, Take a look at /etc/ftpusers. With this file you can block certain users. Brent TCCSweb -----Original Message----- From: Laurence Berland To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tuesday, March 09, 1999 7:53 PM Subject: FTP restriction >There was a thread either here or on -questions about how to disallow >some users ftp login access and not disallow others. I unfortunately >cannot track down the thread with the online search engine. If someone >could either tell me how or point me to where this info is I'd be very >appreciative. >-- >Laurence Berland, Stuyvesant HS Debate ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>< > > >Windows 98: n. > useless extension to a minor patch release for > 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a > 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system > originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, > written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for > 1 bit of competition. >http://stuy.debate.net >icq #7434346 aol imer E1101 > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 9 19:16:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from host07.rwsystems.net (kasie.rwsystems.net [209.197.192.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4916415065 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 19:16:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Camarilla!Camarilla.RWSystems.net!rschulz@host07.rwsystems.net) Received: from Camarilla (2305 bytes) by host07.rwsystems.net via rmail with P:uucp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for FreeBSD.ORG!freebsd-isp; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 21:06:44 -0600 (CST) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Dec-24) Received: from localhost by Camarilla.rwsystems.net with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m10KYK0-0004oOC; Tue, 9 Mar 99 20:02 CST Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 20:02:08 -0600 (CST) From: Richard Schulz To: James Wyatt Cc: Dennis , "Randy A. Katz" , =?iso-8859-1?Q?=22Ronald_Wiplinger_=28=C3Q=A4=AF=AF=C7=29=22?= , "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Ethernet card problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Actually, I'm using two 3c509b cards. Since I'm using a 486DX50 (true 50), it's faster doing memory I/O than the old DMA controller is at multiple DMA cycles. If I had PCI in the gateway I'd definately be using it. Oh, well. I might have to upgrade if I can ever find an IPSec solution that will work with the Bay Networks VPN harware. The NRL IPV6 patches do not work with 3.0.0-RELEASE. On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, James Wyatt wrote: > Uh, IIRC, the de0 (which I'm using) and the fxp0 (which I think Richard > Schulz is using) are both PCI cards. Might I speculate that the CPU and/or > FreeBSD kernel could be too busy filtering to get back to the card fast > enough? How strong is the CPU and how much traffic is flowing? fwiw: I > have also seen PCI bus-mastering faults in older MB chipsets. - Jy@ > > btw: I *really* appreciate the availability of this filter! Thanks!! > > On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Dennis wrote: > > The problem that Ronald is seeing is not related to the BWMGR, but to > > a DMA problem on the card. "transmit underruns" (or underflows for it thats > > what the driver author called it") are typically caused when the controller > > cant get data fast enough (typically bus masters not able to get the bus in > > time to fill the next data slot in a frame that is in the process of being > > transmitted). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 9 20: 2:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from velvet.sensation.net.au (serial0-velvet.Brunswick.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EDDA14EE5 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 20:01:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) by velvet.sensation.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA06009 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 15:01:15 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) X-Authentication-Warning: velvet.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 15:01:14 +1100 (EST) From: Rowan Crowe To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: fragmented packets Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, I am having some problems with fragmented packets from certain hosts. Firstly, I'm not sure they're valid packets. Here's a small sample from tcpdump -vfi ppp0 host 209.1.224.16: 14:48:45.993516 209.1.224.16.http > 203.20.114.3.timbuktu-srv3: FP 192316230:192317386(1156) ack 2204793872 win 8460 (frag 57245:1176@0+) (ttl 246) 14:48:46.011204 209.1.224.16 > 203.20.114.3: (frag 57245:149@1176) (ttl 246) 14:49:01.940357 209.1.224.16.http > 203.20.114.7.4366: FP 177375633:177376789(1156) ack 1825709182 win 9870 (frag 24914:1176@0+) (ttl 246) 14:49:01.948698 209.1.224.16 > 203.20.114.7: (frag 24914:53@1176) (ttl 246) These packets are also blocked by ipfw, which reports junk port numbers: ipfw: 5 Deny TCP 209.1.224.16:11 203.20.114.3:2818 in via ppp0 Fragment = 147 ipfw: 5 Deny TCP 209.1.224.16:50213 203.20.114.3:30500 in via ppp0 Fragment = 147 ipfw: 5 Deny TCP 209.1.224.16:11 203.20.114.3:2818 in via ppp0 Fragment = 147 ipfw: 5 Deny TCP 209.1.224.16:18683 203.20.114.3:42890 in via ppp0 Fragment = 147 Rule 5 is: 00005 304 103312 deny log tcp from any to any 20034 A temporary rule, and nothing to do with fragmented packets. At the other times this has happened it's reported another seemingly random (but valid) rule number. Has anyone ever seen something like this before? It seems to happen mainly on inbound SMTP connections but just now I've noticed it on an outbound HTTP connection. FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE, ppp0 at the moment is an ISDN connection to Telstra Internet (australia). I run a script which regularly emails "freshly logged" denied packets to me so it's getting a little annoying to get an email every 10 minutes for an hour or two with the above denied packets. As well as that, the packets are being dropped so the connection is effectively useless. I've resorted to temporarily firewalling a host trying to deliver a message via SMTP, to force it to deliver (reliably) via my 3rd priority MX, which is external. I mentioned this strange fragmented packets problem in comp.os.unix.freebsd.misc about 10-12 months ago but no one responded. Does ipfw grab the packet before or after tcpdump displays it? (I'm guessing after, since denied packets still show up in tcpdump). If this is the case then there's either a problem with packet processing, or perhaps a broken gateway somewhere is grunging packets. Maybe even pppd? Note however that it's only happened on about 6 hosts in the past few months, and sometimes connections to them work just fine. I've really got no idea where to start to try to fix this annoying problem. Thanks for any help. Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe Sensation Internet Services, Melbourne Aust fidonet: 3:635/728 +61-3-9388-9260 http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ http://www.sensation.net.au/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 9 21:49:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from uvc.macrowerx.com (uvc.macrowerx.com [207.212.196.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ACF914F96 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 21:49:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sysjedi@uvc.macrowerx.com) Received: from localhost (sysjedi@localhost) by uvc.macrowerx.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA24731; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 21:56:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 21:56:06 -0800 (PST) From: Tadhg Christopher Bird Cain To: Robert Hough Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Unable to allocate memory In-Reply-To: <199903092008.PAA00502@zoe.iserve.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Robert Hough wrote: > One of our servers is constantly dying today. It keeps giving an error > message that says "Unable to allocate memory". This happened to me when we ran out of swap space. A RAM upgrade and the addition of a smallish drive (140 MB or so) to be used as a swap partition did the trick. Good Luck. -- Tadhg "Christopher" Bird Cain MacroWerx Systems Jedi http://www.MacroWerx.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Mar 9 22:56:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from empire.primenetwork.net (mail.primenetwork.net [209.218.32.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B00014E26 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 22:56:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from webmaster@primenetwork.net) Received: from razor ([209.218.32.6]) by empire.primenetwork.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id net for ; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 23:01:41 +0000 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990309225931.009c6a00@mail.primenetwork.net> X-Sender: webmaster@mail.primenetwork.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 22:59:31 +0000 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: webmaster@primenetwork.net (Prime Internet Network) Subject: Max Users Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We have a Free-BSD server that seems to keep rebooting on some panic exit error. This machine is a webserver that is receiving a massive amount of traffic. Just before it usually dies it stops running cgi processes , returning an 'internal server error' response. I usually have gone in a set the 'limit maxproc 256' from the default 64 and it helps for a short time. The machine still dies no matter what I do after about 2 hours of the load. I have even gone to the extreme of running a cron every 30 minutes to restart the apache server and kick all current connections. This does not help either. There must be something I can config to allow more users on the system than the default config. What should I change or configure in the kernel, and or any other location to increase the performance of the machine and allow the maximum possible internet connections as possible. I also run 5 RedHat server that do not have this problem and run at an even higher load than the Free-BSD machine with less RAM. My Free-BSD is a Pentium II 300 with 256 MB ram . I would be greatful for any help. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 10 1: 4:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (penguin-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se [194.237.142.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A6C15015 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 01:04:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from martti.kuparinen@lmf.ericsson.se) Received: from lmf.lmf.ericsson.se (umail.lmf.ericsson.se [131.160.11.2]) by penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.9.0/8.9.0/WIREfire-1.2) with ESMTP id KAA08969 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 10:04:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from tosb0323 by lmf.lmf.ericsson.se (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id LAA07191; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 11:04:15 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990310110036.02faf150@openmail.lmf.ericsson.se> X-Sender: lmfmara@openmail.lmf.ericsson.se X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 11:00:36 +0200 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Martti Kuparinen Subject: Cyrus IMAP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have installed Cyrus 1.5.14 on my FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE machine from the ports collection. The incoming mails are handled by sendmail with the following configuration: ===================================================================== divert(-1) # # This sample mc file is for a site that uses the Cyrus IMAP server # exclusively for local mail. # divert(0)dnl VERSIONID(`Test') OSTYPE(bsd4.4)dnl define(`CYRUS_MAILER_PATH', `/usr/local/cyrus/bin/deliver') define(`CYRUS_MAILER_FLAGS', `SA5@') define(`CYRUS_BB_MAILER_FLAGS', `S') FEATURE(nouucp) MAILER(smtp) MAILER(cyrus) define(`confLOCAL_MAILER',`cyrus') LOCAL_RULE_0 Rbb + $+ < @ $=w . > $#cyrusbb $: $1 ===================================================================== I have also created a mailbox for user "martti" with the cyradm command. The received mail is saved (the file "10." in the following output) to the correct directory and I am able to read it with Pine and Netscape. Then I created a folder with "cm user.martti.sub" command within cyradm. This folder is created as depicted in the following output. But for some reason I can not see this folder with my IMAP clients nor can I create folders from e.g. Netscape. ROOT morse:~> ls -lR /var/spool/imap/user/martti total 6 -rw------- 1 cyrus cyrus 521 Maa 9 21:20 10. -rw------- 1 cyrus cyrus 564 Maa 9 21:20 cyrus.cache -rw------- 1 cyrus cyrus 135 Maa 9 20:04 cyrus.header -rw------- 1 cyrus cyrus 96 Maa 9 21:20 cyrus.index -rw------- 1 cyrus cyrus 52 Maa 9 21:20 cyrus.seen drwx------ 2 cyrus cyrus 512 Maa 9 21:16 sub /var/spool/imap/user/martti/sub: total 3 -rw------- 1 cyrus cyrus 4 Maa 9 21:16 cyrus.cache -rw------- 1 cyrus cyrus 135 Maa 9 21:16 cyrus.header -rw------- 1 cyrus cyrus 44 Maa 9 21:16 cyrus.index -rw------- 1 cyrus cyrus 0 Maa 9 21:16 cyrus.seen Any ideas what's wrong with my setup? I spent too much time with this last night, so maybe I missed some important step here. Martti --- Martti Kuparinen http://www.hut.fi/~kuparine To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 10 3:41:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from carme.eclipse.net.uk (carme.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9A9150FB for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 03:41:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by carme.eclipse.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA86920; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 11:40:59 GMT Message-ID: <36E65ABC.478AD3D9@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 11:42:52 +0000 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martti Kuparinen Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Cyrus IMAP References: <3.0.6.32.19990310110036.02faf150@openmail.lmf.ericsson.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Have you checked the acl's are set correctly? ('lam user.martti' in cyradm) - It should have inherited the acl from the parent folder but it's worth checking. Also try the imap protocol with no client to get in the way of what cyrus is actually responding (in case it's something to do with the client software, like maybe subscriptions, this will get around that ;-) # telnet localhost 143 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. * OK flirble.eclipse.net.uk Cyrus IMAP4 v1.5.20 server ready . login username password . OK User logged in . list "INBOX" * * LIST () "." "INBOX" * LIST () "." "INBOX.sub" . OK Completed HTH Stuart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 10 21:40:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bubba.whistle.com (s205m7.whistle.com [207.76.205.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B92515064 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 21:39:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from archie@whistle.com) Received: (from archie@localhost) by bubba.whistle.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id VAA93891; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 21:38:40 -0800 (PST) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <199903110538.VAA93891@bubba.whistle.com> Subject: Re: fragmented packets In-Reply-To: from Rowan Crowe at "Mar 10, 99 03:01:14 pm" To: rowan@sensation.net.au (Rowan Crowe) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 21:38:40 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rowan Crowe writes: > Firstly, I'm not sure they're valid packets. Here's a small sample from > tcpdump -vfi ppp0 host 209.1.224.16: > > 14:48:45.993516 209.1.224.16.http > 203.20.114.3.timbuktu-srv3: FP 192316230:192317386(1156) ack 2204793872 win 8460 (frag 57245:1176@0+) (ttl 246) > 14:48:46.011204 209.1.224.16 > 203.20.114.3: (frag 57245:149@1176) (ttl 246) > 14:49:01.940357 209.1.224.16.http > 203.20.114.7.4366: FP 177375633:177376789(1156) ack 1825709182 win 9870 (frag 24914:1176@0+) (ttl 246) > 14:49:01.948698 209.1.224.16 > 203.20.114.7: (frag 24914:53@1176) (ttl 246) > > These packets are also blocked by ipfw, which reports junk port numbers: > > ipfw: 5 Deny TCP 209.1.224.16:11 203.20.114.3:2818 in via ppp0 Fragment = 147 > ipfw: 5 Deny TCP 209.1.224.16:50213 203.20.114.3:30500 in via ppp0 Fragment = 147 > ipfw: 5 Deny TCP 209.1.224.16:11 203.20.114.3:2818 in via ppp0 Fragment = 147 > ipfw: 5 Deny TCP 209.1.224.16:18683 203.20.114.3:42890 in via ppp0 Fragment = 147 This was a bug in ipfw where it incorrectly tries to match port numbers, etc. in fragments. Upgrade to 2.2.8 and the problem should go away. -Archie > FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE, ppp0 at the moment is an ISDN connection to Telstra > Internet (australia). ___________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Whistle Communications, Inc. * http://www.whistle.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 10 23: 8:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gjp.erols.com (alex-va-n008c079.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 109BE1502D for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 23:08:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA72568; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 02:07:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: "Kurt Jaeger" Cc: stuart@eclipse.net.uk (Stuart Henderson), andrew@squiz.co.nz (Andrew McNaughton), haifeng@ms.lawton.com.cn (Haifeng Guo), freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Mail server setup In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Mar 1999 13:33:17 +0100." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 02:07:32 -0500 Message-ID: <72564.921136052@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Kurt Jaeger" wrote in message ID : > Depends on the setup. No, it doesn't. NFS is not the best idea for any system which does hundreds or thousands of directory lookups per second with little or no file i/o in comparison. If you think about it for a second, a mail system is just that (in general). You get a lot of people checking mail, and only a few of those have (new) mail and download it. This makes NFS a serious pain in the rear (since it can't really do directory caching). If you ended up doing a lot of I/O, you'd probably want to be looking at CDDI or FDDI for NFS also, to cut down on the number of packets and/or fragments flying around (depending on how you set it up). > Have a look at: > > http://www.earthlink.net/company/mail_arch.html > > It describes their e-mail architecture for quite a large user community. I've often wondered what kick-back they get from NetApp for publishing that There are other alternatives to NFS. Doing POP3 & SMTP proxying makes a lot more sense IMNSHO. You basically end up with a set of front-end machines which do username lookups and route incoming traffic to the appropriate backend. The system is highly scalable. You just add more machines. By my guess, you'd have to go well past 1m users to max out full duplex fast ethernet in this setup. Past posts on this from any number of ppl (mostly me tho :) ) should be in the archives. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 10 23:12:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gjp.erols.com (alex-va-n008c079.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D47AB150D3; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 23:12:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA72646; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 02:11:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Mark Conway Wirt Cc: Haifeng Guo , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Mail server setup In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Mar 1999 10:39:44 EST." <19990304103944.F29262@intrepid.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 02:11:39 -0500 Message-ID: <72642.921136299@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mark Conway Wirt wrote in message ID <19990304103944.F29262@intrepid.net>: > Are you delivering to hashed spool files? That make a lot of differnce > on a large machine, from what I hear..... A hierarichal mail spool layout has a tremendous impact on a UFS based mail spool as you no longer have to do a linear search of /var/mail to find recently added mailboxes (translation: you do more directory lookups, and more syscalls, but you end up eating way less cpu) If you're running under something like VXFS, then its probably still a win, but VXFS indexes its directories, so its not so clear to me that hashing is needed for doing plain lookups (although `ls' would still suck :) ) Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 10 23:21: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gjp.erols.com (alex-va-n008c079.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 184A114BD0 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 23:20:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA72810; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 02:20:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: jfesler@gigo.com Cc: michael@blueneptune.com, Mark Conway Wirt , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Sednmail 8.9.3 'trusted relaying' In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Mar 1999 11:21:06 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 02:20:20 -0500 Message-ID: <72806.921136820@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org jfesler@gigo.com wrote in message ID : > There's an option on Outlook/Outlook Express to do authorization before > sending. I've had to use it more than once. Can't comment on the other > packages, though. Doesn't that use that M$ SMTP-AUTH extensions? Anyone else know what supports that apart from M$ Exchange and (I believe) Software.Com's InterMail 4.x product? Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 10 23:24:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cs1.cityscope.net (cs1.cityscope.net [206.222.183.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEEBB15101; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 23:24:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ingrid@cityscope.net) Received: from cityscope.net (ikf.cityscope.net [206.222.183.7]) by cs1.cityscope.net (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id BAA19697; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 01:23:46 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <36E77344.441F5900@cityscope.net> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 01:39:48 -0600 From: Ingrid Kast Fuller Organization: CityScope Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, hou-freebsd@cityscope.net Subject: Houston FreeBSD Users Group Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The Houston FreeBSD Users Group meeting is set for March 27th! If you are in the Houston area, please join us at our first meeting! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We're excited about forming this new group for enthusiasts of Open Source Unix based in the Houston area. The Houston FreeBSD Users Group will be having it's first meeting on Saturday, March 27th at 1:00pm at the Pasadena Public Library conference room. For more details and a map, please visit: http://www.cityscope.net/~houfug If you would like to join our mailing list, please subscribe to: To: majordomo@cityscope.net subscribe hou-freebsd youremailaddress ********************************************************** HOUston FreeBSD Users Group -- for Houston Area Open Source Unix Enthusiasts! HOUFUG is for the education and promotion of FreeBSD, an advanced BSD Unix operating system for PC-compatible computers. This free feature packed operating system offers advanced networking, performance, security and compatibility features many operating systems are missing. *********************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Mar 10 23:46:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gjp.erols.com (alex-va-n008c079.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ACA21520A for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 23:46:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA73192 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 02:46:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Mail server setup Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 02:46:07 -0500 Message-ID: <73188.921138367@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [ delete all trace of previous message so as not to think any one person is being picked upon ] I'm really rather astounded at the number of people here who seem to think that NFS is real solution to scaling large server farms. Its not. NFS is a gross hack. It works, sure. But it is far from the ideal solution to an internet providers problems. We've got a NFS based web server farm at work, and although I have no connection to the web department, I'm constantly beating them over the head to replace it as the machines they are using (and are pushing the limits of) could push a lot more traffic if they only had local storage. The stateless nature of NFS means that a lot of the work done to optimize the VM system and to merge in the I/O buffer cache is wasted, and you have to go to the wire for requests for the same data that you queried 10ms ago. Simply put: NFS has its place. Performance-critical systems isn't one of the areas NFS is suited for. Not unless you want to throw a lot more hardware at the problem than you really need to. Yes, this is verging on a religious argument. However, the fact that even Sun now says that NFS mounted /var/mail spools is a bad idea speaks volumes. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 11 0:29:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from andromeda. (test.register.md [209.26.120.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B108614F12 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 00:29:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin@wholesalehosting.com) Received: from bob by andromeda. (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id DAA15038; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 03:31:10 -0500 Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 03:27:52 -0500 From: admin To: sendmail-questions@sendmail.org, "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Domain Alias/Client Relays Reply-To: admin@wholesalehosting.com Message-Id: <36E77E88398.9556ADMIN@domains.md> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.24 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org when mail comes for my user 'tasha' for whom i host tashita.org : a.) The mail checks the /etc/virtusertable/ b.) Finds the entry @tashita.org tasha c.) drops the mail off to tasha's home direcotry. Thats all good... but tasha wants to add a whole slew of aliases herself.. like support, admin, feiend1, friend2 and so on. I run FreeBSD 2.2.8 and SendMail 8.9.3/8.9.3 - and was told that i could add aliases to a file in the user's home directory - but i haven't been successful in accomplishing what i need to be able to provide my friends/clients with. If someone could explain this and present me with an example format i'd be very grateful. ------------------------------ Wholesale Hosting Inc. Po.Box 273 Davidsonville, MD 21035 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 11 0:32:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from katroo.Sendmail.COM (katroo.Sendmail.COM [206.189.75.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EFB015221 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 00:32:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gshapiro@sendmail.com) Received: from scooter.sendmail.com (IDENT:7/8s4GEgc5W4WeZGRd7c7yk6gZu/lygs@scooter.Sendmail.COM [206.189.75.23]) by katroo.Sendmail.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA16159; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 00:32:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by scooter.sendmail.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA16386; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 00:32:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14055.32642.588776.684420@scooter.sendmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 00:32:02 -0800 (PST) From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: admin@wholesalehosting.com Cc: sendmail-questions@sendmail.org, "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Domain Alias/Client Relays In-Reply-To: <36E77E88398.9556ADMIN@domains.md> References: <36E77E88398.9556ADMIN@domains.md> X-Mailer: VM 6.68 under 21.2 "Boreas" XEmacs Lucid (beta10) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org admin> when mail comes for my user 'tasha' for whom i host tashita.org : admin> a.) The mail checks the /etc/virtusertable/ admin> b.) Finds the entry @tashita.org tasha admin> c.) drops the mail off to tasha's home direcotry. admin> Thats all good... but tasha wants to add a whole slew of aliases admin> herself.. like support, admin, feiend1, friend2 and so on. admin> I run FreeBSD 2.2.8 and SendMail 8.9.3/8.9.3 - and was told that i admin> could add aliases to a file in the user's home directory - but i admin> haven't been successful in accomplishing what i need to be able to admin> provide my friends/clients with. If someone could explain this and admin> present me with an example format i'd be very grateful. If the aliases have to point to different people, you will have to give tasha a method of editing the virtusertable entries for that domain. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 11 0:59:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from andromeda. (test.register.md [209.26.120.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 515621523C for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 00:59:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin@wholesalehosting.com) Received: from bob by andromeda. (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id EAA15050; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 04:01:49 -0500 Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 03:58:31 -0500 From: admin To: Gregory Neil Shapiro Cc: SendMail Questions , "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re[2]: Domain Alias/Client Relays In-Reply-To: <14055.32642.588776.684420@scooter.sendmail.com> References: <36E77E88398.9556ADMIN@domains.md> <14055.32642.588776.684420@scooter.sendmail.com> Reply-To: admin@wholesalehosting.com Message-Id: <36E785B7226.9557ADMIN@domains.md> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.24 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 11 Mar 1999 00:32:02 -0800 (PST) Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: > admin> when mail comes for my user 'tasha' for whom i host tashita.org : > admin> a.) The mail checks the /etc/virtusertable/ > admin> b.) Finds the entry @tashita.org tasha > admin> c.) drops the mail off to tasha's home direcotry. > > admin> Thats all good... but tasha wants to add a whole slew of aliases > admin> herself.. like support, admin, feiend1, friend2 and so on. > > admin> I run FreeBSD 2.2.8 and SendMail 8.9.3/8.9.3 - and was told that i > admin> could add aliases to a file in the user's home directory - but i > admin> haven't been successful in accomplishing what i need to be able to > admin> provide my friends/clients with. If someone could explain this and > admin> present me with an example format i'd be very grateful. > > If the aliases have to point to different people, you will have to give > tasha a method of editing the virtusertable entries for that domain. > No can do, this is somethign i want all my clients to be able to do and ya cant just go giving everybody write access to the virtusertable ya know.. I was thinking of something more like this .. (Note: this won't function i know.. but its in example if what i want to do. Feel free to develop this idea into a later version - i know several people who would find this useful.) --- /etc/virtusertable --- ## tashita.org's section ## @tashita.org /usr/home/tashita/virtusertable --- end --- In this example... the root virtusertable passes the mail to the client's virtusertable which processes the data.. something like this. --- /usr/home/tashita/virtusertable --- default mail alias1 email@otherplace.com alias1 friend@somewhere.com alias3 bob@bob.com --- end --- ------------------------------ Wholesale Hosting Inc. Po.Box 273 Davidsonville, MD 21035 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 11 1:11:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from carmel.diva.nl (carmel.diva.nl [195.86.39.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BEC615279 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 01:10:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michiel@carmel.diva.nl) Received: from localhost (michiel@localhost) by carmel.diva.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA09573; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:09:48 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:09:48 +0100 (CET) From: Michiel Boland To: admin Cc: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Domain Alias/Client Relays In-Reply-To: <36E77E88398.9556ADMIN@domains.md> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [sendmail-questions dropped from rcpt list] On Thu, 11 Mar 1999, admin wrote: > when mail comes for my user 'tasha' for whom i host tashita.org : > a.) The mail checks the /etc/virtusertable/ > b.) Finds the entry @tashita.org tasha > c.) drops the mail off to tasha's home direcotry. > > Thats all good... but tasha wants to add a whole slew of aliases > herself.. like support, admin, feiend1, friend2 and so on. Tell tasha to put a .forward file in her home directory. Cheers Michiel -- Michiel Boland Digital Valley Internet Professionals Duivendaal 4, Wageningen, The Netherlands Phone: +31 317 465555, Fax: +31 317 460276 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 11 1:15:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from magoo.beastie.com (magoo.beastie.com [206.111.134.170]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7AE614CF9 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 01:15:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gshapiro@beastie.com) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by magoo.beastie.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA64704; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 01:14:44 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14055.35202.48901.945354@magoo.beastie.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 01:14:42 -0800 (PST) From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: admin@wholesalehosting.com Cc: Gregory Neil Shapiro , SendMail Questions , "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Re[2]: Domain Alias/Client Relays In-Reply-To: <36E785B7226.9557ADMIN@domains.md> References: <36E77E88398.9556ADMIN@domains.md> <14055.32642.588776.684420@scooter.sendmail.com> <36E785B7226.9557ADMIN@domains.md> X-Mailer: VM 6.68 under 21.2 "Clio" XEmacs Lucid (beta12) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org admin> No can do, this is somethign i want all my clients to be able to do and admin> ya cant just go giving everybody write access to the virtusertable ya admin> know.. I was thinking of something more like this .. admin> (Note: this won't function i know.. but its in example if what i want to admin> do. Feel free to develop this idea into a later version - i know several admin> people who would find this useful.) admin> --- /etc/virtusertable --- admin> ## tashita.org's section ## admin> @tashita.org /usr/home/tashita/virtusertable admin> --- end --- admin> In this example... the root virtusertable passes the mail to the admin> client's virtusertable which processes the data.. something like this. admin> --- /usr/home/tashita/virtusertable --- admin> default mail admin> alias1 email@otherplace.com admin> alias1 friend@somewhere.com admin> alias3 bob@bob.com admin> --- end --- This idea doesn't really require sendmail config support. All you need to do is write a tool that will collect all of the information (and do a sanity check) and create a virtual user table out of it. This should be easy enough to do. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 11 3: 0: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from andromeda. (www.domains.md [209.26.120.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 966FF14FD0 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 03:00:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin@wholesalehosting.com) Received: from bob by andromeda. (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id GAA15097; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 06:02:07 -0500 Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 05:58:49 -0500 From: admin To: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: I must be stupid Reply-To: admin@wholesalehosting.com Message-Id: <36E7A1E938E.955CADMIN@domains.md> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.24 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I must be stupid, because i cant figure what these helpers are saying, let alone pull it off. All i want is to create custom aliass for non local users (much like virtusertable) but i want them to exist in the users directory so they can add and remove them. When i was with webaxxcess/online marketing.. we did this with a .redirect file which looked like this. $: cat .redirect default diva@diva.com bob bob@mindspring.com dave dave@mail.com .forward will NOT do, because diva does not want everyone to get everyones mail. Those emails to dave@diva.com need to be bounced to dave@mindspring.com Just like they would be if these redirects were in the virtusertable. So in super lamer terms.. i need local virtusertables for all my users so they can do it themselves on the fly. dig? Cant believe noone else on this list has something like this for their clients. ------------------------------ Wholesale Hosting Inc. Po.Box 273 Davidsonville, MD 21035 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 11 4:45:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from carme.eclipse.net.uk (carme.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C79D515224 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 04:45:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by carme.eclipse.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA68450; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 12:44:33 GMT Message-ID: <36E7BB24.30EBB0B6@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 12:46:28 +0000 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: admin@wholesalehosting.com Cc: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: I must be stupid References: <36E7A1E938E.955CADMIN@domains.md> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > So in super lamer terms.. i need local virtusertables > for all my users so they can do it themselves on the fly. You'll have to run a program (maybe through cron) to run through the user-supplied files in their home directory, sanitise it (check there are no @ on the left-hand-side), add the correct @domain.com to the left hand side, combine them into one big file and rebuild the hash/db. Maybe you could use perl or a sh script. Alternatively you could provide a web interface for your customers to enter the addresses themselves (maybe using php?). > Cant believe noone else on this list has something like this > for their clients. They probably are. It should be a reasonably simple bit of scripting. Or there's a lot of other mailers you could look at to see if they do what you need. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 11 5:22:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [166.84.0.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8614B150D8 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 05:22:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dexter@dexter.dialup.access.net) Received: from dexter.dialup.access.net (dexter.dialup.access.net [166.84.192.199]) by mail2.panix.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/PanixM1.3) with ESMTP id IAA08186; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 08:22:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dexter@localhost) by dexter.dialup.access.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) id IAA26144; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 08:22:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990311082203.36862@panix.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 08:22:03 -0500 From: Dexter McNeil To: admin@wholesalehosting.com Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: I must be stupid References: <36E7A1E938E.955CADMIN@domains.md> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <36E7A1E938E.955CADMIN@domains.md>; from admin on Thu, Mar 11, 1999 at 05:58:49AM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD dexter.dialup.access.net 2.2.8-STABLE FreeBSD 2.2.8-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Mar 11, 1999 at 05:58:49AM -0500, admin wrote: > X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.24 ^^^^^ ||||| -------- What is this one? On the face of it, this sounds like a job for procmail. Your user can add all the aliases she wants to her local .procmailrc file, and forward to her heart's content. Your choice is to either invoke it via the .forward file mechanism (see the man pages) or to replace the local delivery agent with procmail, in which case the .forward file isn't needed. It works well. Regards, Dexter McNeil dexter@panix.com > I must be stupid, because i cant figure what these helpers are saying, > let alone pull it off. > > All i want is to create custom aliass for non local users (much like > virtusertable) but i want them to exist in the users directory so they > can add and remove them. > > When i was with webaxxcess/online marketing.. we did this with a > .redirect file which looked like this. > > $: cat .redirect > default diva@diva.com > bob bob@mindspring.com > dave dave@mail.com > > .forward will NOT do, because diva does not want everyone to get > everyones mail. Those emails to dave@diva.com need to be bounced to > dave@mindspring.com Just like they would be if these redirects were in > the virtusertable. So in super lamer terms.. i need local virtusertables > for all my users so they can do it themselves on the fly. > > dig? > > Cant believe noone else on this list has something like this for their > clients. > ------------------------------ > Wholesale Hosting Inc. > Po.Box 273 > Davidsonville, MD 21035 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 11 5:32:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from playground.sun.com (playground.Sun.COM [192.9.5.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AC211528F for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 05:32:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jbeck@eng.sun.com) Received: from opal.eng.sun.com (sun-barr.Sun.COM [192.9.9.1]) by playground.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA25239; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 05:32:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from opal (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by opal.eng.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA20021; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 05:32:26 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199903111332.FAA20021@opal.eng.sun.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: admin@wholesalehosting.com Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, sendmail-questions@sendmail.org From: John Beck X-URL: http://WWW.Sendmail.ORG/ X-Face: "+X:bV72?Awv6$S2YK]-N42~<.<7-Z,li!FJJ2sLE.B.yTSlrM1K('8hn6Jnm(]lERAE=h] 8w:X@lulT)G62'cVtqW'2[clcpmcI'=VY`N{V9!9KH?{*I,q7I!y!c`MdfZ|(,Bv82jtS5OHg@]S&9 qBH^aYk[/jOS*N~6+K\^~P'`M>2\ Subject: Re: I must be stupid In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 11 Mar 1999 05:58:49 EST." <36E7A1E938E.955CADMIN@domains.md> References: <36E7A1E938E.955CADMIN@domains.md> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 05:32:26 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Apparently we were Bcc:d. Please be explicit in the future. admin> All i want is to create custom aliass for non local users (much like admin> virtusertable) but i want them to exist in the users directory so they admin> can add and remove them. admin> When i was with webaxxcess/online marketing.. we did this with a admin> .redirect file which looked like this. admin> $: cat .redirect default diva@diva.com bob bob@mindspring.com dave admin> dave@mail.com admin> .forward will NOT do, because diva does not want everyone to get admin> everyones mail. Those emails to dave@diva.com need to be bounced admin> to dave@mindspring.com Just like they would be if these redirects admin> were in the virtusertable. So in super lamer terms.. i need local admin> virtusertables for all my users so they can do it themselves on the admin> fly. Create a directory, say /etc/mail/domains. In there, create a file for each user. The files can be sym-links to files in the users's directories if necessary. Each user owns his/her file. Then cat the files together into /etc/mail/virtusertable (or whatever path you use), and run makemap on that. I have a virtual hosting site that does exactly this (with a cron job that checks hourly if any of the users' files changed, and does the cat and makemap if so), and it works just fine. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 11 6:37:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx01.iafrica.com.na (mx01.iafrica.com.na [196.31.227.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 491B81521F for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 06:37:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tim@iafrica.com.na) Received: from dup62-whk.iafrica.com.na ([196.20.4.131] helo=aptiva) by mx01.iafrica.com.na with smtp (Exim 2.11 #1) id 10L6Zk-0004XC-00; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 16:36:41 +0200 Message-ID: <36E7ADA7.CE2@iafrica.com.na> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 13:48:55 +0200 From: Tim Priebe Reply-To: tim@iafrica.com.na X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Cc: admin@wholesalehosting.com Subject: Re: I must be stupid References: <36E7A1E938E.955CADMIN@domains.md> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org admin wrote: > > All i want is to create custom aliass for non local users (much like > virtusertable) but i want them to exist in the users directory so they > can add and remove them. > > When i was with webaxxcess/online marketing.. we did this with a > .redirect file which looked like this. > > $: cat .redirect > default diva@diva.com > bob bob@mindspring.com > dave dave@mail.com > > .forward will NOT do, because diva does not want everyone to get > everyones mail. Those emails to dave@diva.com need to be bounced to > dave@mindspring.com Just like they would be if these redirects were in > the virtusertable. So in super lamer terms.. i need local virtusertables > for all my users so they can do it themselves on the fly. > > dig? I would think that the easiest way to achive this would be to use a separate alias file for each domain, and to allow the owner of that domain to modify the file for thier domain. If the file should be in the users home directory, this can be achieved with a symbolic link. I do not know if you can setup per domain alias files with Sendmail, I would suspect it can be done. I have done it with exim (not including the users modifying the files themselves), and I am sure it can be done with other programs as well. > Cant believe noone else on this list has something like this for their > clients. I know of a large ISP that does something similar to this on FreeBSD. They use a web based system to allow thier users to administor thier own virtual domains. Personally I would find giving the users access to do it themselves, via shell or ftp access, a security concern. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 11 7:11:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ozone.fmi.fi (ozone.fmi.fi [193.166.223.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87E8915357 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 07:11:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hurtta@ozone.fmi.fi) Received: (from hurtta@localhost) by ozone.fmi.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3/test/1998-04-28) id PAA28664; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 15:56:26 +0200 (EET) From: "Kari E. Hurtta" Message-Id: <199903111356.PAA28664@ozone.fmi.fi> Subject: Re: I must be stupid In-Reply-To: <36E7A1E938E.955CADMIN@domains.md> from admin at "Mar 11, 1999 05:58:49 am" To: admin@wholesalehosting.com Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 15:56:26 +0200 (EET) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, sendmail-questions@sendmail.ORG (sendmail-questions) Reply-To: sendmail-questions@sendmail.ORG (sendmail-questions) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL53Y (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org admin: > I must be stupid, because i cant figure what these helpers are saying, > let alone pull it off. > > All i want is to create custom aliass for non local users (much like > virtusertable) but i want them to exist in the users directory so they > can add and remove them. > > When i was with webaxxcess/online marketing.. we did this with a > .redirect file which looked like this. > > $: cat .redirect > default diva@diva.com > bob bob@mindspring.com > dave dave@mail.com > > .forward will NOT do, because diva does not want everyone to get > everyones mail. Those emails to dave@diva.com need to be bounced to > dave@mindspring.com Just like they would be if these redirects were in > the virtusertable. So in super lamer terms.. i need local virtusertables > for all my users so they can do it themselves on the fly. > > dig? > > Cant believe noone else on this list has something like this for their > clients. As far I know, there is no .redirect -files used on Open Source Sendmail config. / Kari Hurtta Sendmail Consortium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 11 8:59:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from nic.mmc.net.ge (nic.mmc.net.ge [208.239.34.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E96E154A5 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 08:59:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zvi@mmc.net.ge) Received: from mmc.net.ge (giovanni.mmc.net.ge [208.239.34.69]) by nic.mmc.net.ge (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA28328 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 20:57:59 GMT (envelope-from zvi@mmc.net.ge) Message-ID: <36E7F5CE.81037A66@mmc.net.ge> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 20:56:46 +0400 From: Zviad Sulaberidze X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Killall Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! can I kill the process by it's executor UID or name? i have dial-up access on FreeBSD.. and I can view my dial-up users on line..like this: $w 8:58PM up 9:44, 10 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT ghia d3 - 8:40PM 17 -pppd (pppd) erani d4 - 8:41PM 16 -pppd (pppd) geovet d5 - 6:21PM 2:36 -pppd (pppd) 777 d6 - 8:52PM 5 -pppd (pppd) xvichia d7 - 8:12PM 45 -pppd (pppd) geocer d8 - 8:50PM 7 -pppd (pppd) zaza da - 5:38PM 3:18 -pppd (pppd) okujava df - 8:31PM 25 -pppd (pppd) messer dg - 8:55PM 2 -pppd (pppd) zvi p0 nic 7:24PM - w can I use TTY or USER to specify process to kill it? does any utilite do it? thanks zvi -- He who chooses the beginning of the road chooses the place it leads to. It is the means that determines the end ------------------------------ Zviad Sulaberidze Executive Director Multimedia Centre, Georgia Tel: (995 32) 335904 Mob: (995 99) 573951 Fax: (995 32) 987618 E-mail: zvi@mmc.net.ge WEB: http://www.mmc.net.ge/zvi ------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 11 9: 5:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from nic.mmc.net.ge (nic.mmc.net.ge [208.239.34.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A63BA14D83 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 09:05:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zvi@mmc.net.ge) Received: from mmc.net.ge (giovanni.mmc.net.ge [208.239.34.69]) by nic.mmc.net.ge (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA28369; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 21:04:00 GMT (envelope-from zvi@mmc.net.ge) Message-ID: <36E7F737.FD2568D@mmc.net.ge> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 21:02:47 +0400 From: Zviad Sulaberidze X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "sendmail-questions@sendmail.org" , "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: /ETC/VIRTUSERTABLE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org what does /etc/virtusertable do? Zvi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 11 9:21:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gator.adeptscience.co.uk (gator.adeptscience.co.uk [193.116.153.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D9115284 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 09:21:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from reese@chem.duke.edu) Received: from porthos.ourway.org (async249-38.async.duke.edu [152.3.249.38]) by gator.adeptscience.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA15860; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 17:20:43 GMT (envelope-from reese@chem.duke.edu) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990311172052.00710584@chem.duke.edu> X-Sender: reese@chem.duke.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 12:20:52 -0500 To: Zviad Sulaberidze From: Charles Reese Subject: Re: /ETC/VIRTUSERTABLE Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It allows you to create aliases across domains, for instance I run a number of majordomo mailing lists in a couple different domains and I want the majordomo to read different .cf files depending on which domain the list is in. In the virtualusers table I have: majordomo@lists.adeptscience.com majordomo-adept majordomo@ug.commlist.com majordomo-commlist then in the aliases file: majordomo-adept: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -C /usr/local/majordomo/adept/adept.cf" majordomo-commlist: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper majordomo -C /usr/local/majordomo/commlist/commlist.cf" this way all the subscirbers can send commands to 'majordomo' but two differnt configurations of majordomo handle their commands. Cheers Charlie Reese At 09:02 PM 3/11/99 +0400, you wrote: >what does /etc/virtusertable do? > > >Zvi > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > One Unix to Rule them all, One Resolver to Find them, One IP to Name them all, In the Zone that Binds them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 11 9:35:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from katroo.Sendmail.COM (katroo.Sendmail.COM [206.189.75.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED83151F6 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 09:35:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ca@sendmail.com) Received: from zable.Sendmail.COM (zable.Sendmail.COM [206.189.75.132]) by katroo.Sendmail.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26774; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 09:35:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ca@localhost) by zable.Sendmail.COM (8.9.2.Alpha0/8.9.2.Alpha0) id JAA28067; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 09:35:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 09:35:11 -0800 From: Claus Assmann To: Zviad Sulaberidze Cc: "sendmail-questions@sendmail.org" , "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: /ETC/VIRTUSERTABLE Message-ID: <19990311093511.B27575@zable.Sendmail.COM> Reply-To: sendmail-questions@sendmail.org References: <36E7F737.FD2568D@mmc.net.ge> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <36E7F737.FD2568D@mmc.net.ge>; from Zviad Sulaberidze on Thu, Mar 11, 1999 at 09:02:47PM +0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Mar 11, 1999, Zviad Sulaberidze wrote: > what does /etc/virtusertable do? See cf/README in your sendmail distribution. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 11 11:15: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from freed.libdns.qc.ca (derby.JSP.UMontreal.CA [132.204.45.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30DFD151A2 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:14:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from spidey@libdns.qc.ca) Received: from localhost (spidey@localhost) by freed.libdns.qc.ca (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id OAA06150; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:13:21 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from spidey@libdns.qc.ca) X-Authentication-Warning: freed.libdns.qc.ca: spidey owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:13:21 -0500 (EST) From: Spidey Reply-To: Spidey To: Zviad Sulaberidze Cc: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Killall In-Reply-To: <36E7F5CE.81037A66@mmc.net.ge> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I heard superkill in the ports is quite good, but I haven't tried it.. On Thu, 11 Mar 1999, Zviad Sulaberidze wrote: > Hi! > > can I kill the process by it's executor UID or name? > > i have dial-up access on FreeBSD.. > > and I can view my dial-up users on line..like this: > > $w > 8:58PM up 9:44, 10 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 > USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT > ghia d3 - 8:40PM 17 -pppd (pppd) > erani d4 - 8:41PM 16 -pppd (pppd) > geovet d5 - 6:21PM 2:36 -pppd (pppd) > 777 d6 - 8:52PM 5 -pppd (pppd) > xvichia d7 - 8:12PM 45 -pppd (pppd) > geocer d8 - 8:50PM 7 -pppd (pppd) > zaza da - 5:38PM 3:18 -pppd (pppd) > okujava df - 8:31PM 25 -pppd (pppd) > messer dg - 8:55PM 2 -pppd (pppd) > zvi p0 nic 7:24PM - w > > can I use TTY or USER to specify process to kill it? does any utilite do > it? > > thanks > > zvi > -- > He who chooses the beginning of the road > chooses the place it leads to. > It is the means that determines the end > ------------------------------ > Zviad Sulaberidze > Executive Director > Multimedia Centre, Georgia > Tel: (995 32) 335904 > Mob: (995 99) 573951 > Fax: (995 32) 987618 > E-mail: zvi@mmc.net.ge > WEB: http://www.mmc.net.ge/zvi > ------------------------------ > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > When a man lies he murders some part of the world These are the pale deaths which men miscall their lives All this I can witness any longer Cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 11 11:17:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from katroo.Sendmail.COM (katroo.Sendmail.COM [206.189.75.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 324DF14EBB for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:17:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gshapiro@sendmail.com) Received: from scooter.sendmail.com (IDENT:P+CHw8NM2zCprW1L1+llrrT8vROPBpHe@scooter.Sendmail.COM [206.189.75.23]) by katroo.Sendmail.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA02251; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:16:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by scooter.sendmail.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA17087; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:16:24 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14056.5768.21905.815820@scooter.sendmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:16:24 -0800 (PST) From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: John Beck Cc: admin@wholesalehosting.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, sendmail-questions@sendmail.org Subject: Re: I must be stupid In-Reply-To: <199903111332.FAA20021@opal.eng.sun.com> References: <36E7A1E938E.955CADMIN@domains.md> <199903111332.FAA20021@opal.eng.sun.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.68 under 21.2 "Boreas" XEmacs Lucid (beta10) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John> Create a directory, say /etc/mail/domains. In there, create a file John> for each user. The files can be sym-links to files in the users's John> directories if necessary. Each user owns his/her file. Then cat the John> files together into /etc/mail/virtusertable (or whatever path you John> use), and run makemap on that. I have a virtual hosting site that John> does exactly this (with a cron job that checks hourly if any of the John> users' files changed, and does the cat and makemap if so), and it John> works just fine. This could be dangerous. What is to stop user A from redirecting user B's domain? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 11 11:40:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from playground.sun.com (playground.Sun.COM [192.9.5.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC0CA152AB for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:40:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jbeck@eng.sun.com) Received: from opal.eng.sun.com (sun-barr.Sun.COM [192.9.9.1]) by playground.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04920; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:39:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from opal (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by opal.eng.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21852; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:39:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199903111939.LAA21852@opal.eng.sun.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Gregory Neil Shapiro Cc: John Beck , admin@wholesalehosting.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, sendmail-questions@sendmail.org From: John Beck X-URL: http://WWW.Sendmail.ORG/ X-Face: "+X:bV72?Awv6$S2YK]-N42~<.<7-Z,li!FJJ2sLE.B.yTSlrM1K('8hn6Jnm(]lERAE=h] 8w:X@lulT)G62'cVtqW'2[clcpmcI'=VY`N{V9!9KH?{*I,q7I!y!c`MdfZ|(,Bv82jtS5OHg@]S&9 qBH^aYk[/jOS*N~6+K\^~P'`M>2\ Subject: Re: I must be stupid In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:16:24 PST." <14056.5768.21905.815820@scooter.sendmail.com> References: <36E7A1E938E.955CADMIN@domains.md> <199903111332.FAA20021@opal.eng.sun.com> <14056.5768.21905.815820@scooter.sendmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:39:44 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John> Create a directory, say /etc/mail/domains. In there, create a file John> for each user. The files can be sym-links to files in the users's John> directories if necessary. Each user owns his/her file. Then cat the John> files together into /etc/mail/virtusertable (or whatever path you use), John> and run makemap on that. I have a virtual hosting site that does exactly John> this (with a cron job that checks hourly if any of the users' files John> changed, and does the cat and makemap if so), and it works just fine. Gregory> This could be dangerous. What is to stop user A from redirecting user Gregory> B's domain? Well, in our case, we know everyone involved, and there is mutual trust, so no worries. But in general it's still easy to solve: simply: % grep -iv foo.tld foo.txt where foo.tld is the domain and foo.txt is the virtual user sub-table for that domain. Then cat the output of the grep for each domain into the master virtual user table before doing the makemap. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 11 11:43:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from playground.sun.com (playground.Sun.COM [192.9.5.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04EAB15409 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:43:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jbeck@eng.sun.com) Received: from opal.eng.sun.com (sun-barr.Sun.COM [192.9.9.1]) by playground.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04977; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:42:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from opal (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by opal.eng.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21904; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:42:52 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199903111942.LAA21904@opal.eng.sun.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: John Beck Cc: Gregory Neil Shapiro , admin@wholesalehosting.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, sendmail-questions@sendmail.org From: John Beck X-URL: http://WWW.Sendmail.ORG/ X-Face: "+X:bV72?Awv6$S2YK]-N42~<.<7-Z,li!FJJ2sLE.B.yTSlrM1K('8hn6Jnm(]lERAE=h] 8w:X@lulT)G62'cVtqW'2[clcpmcI'=VY`N{V9!9KH?{*I,q7I!y!c`MdfZ|(,Bv82jtS5OHg@]S&9 qBH^aYk[/jOS*N~6+K\^~P'`M>2\ Subject: Re: I must be stupid In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:39:44 PST." <199903111939.LAA21852@opal.eng.sun.com> References: <36E7A1E938E.955CADMIN@domains.md> <199903111332.FAA20021@opal.eng.sun.com> <14056.5768.21905.815820@scooter.sendmail.com> <199903111939.LAA21852@opal.eng.sun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:42:52 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John> Create a directory, say /etc/mail/domains. In there, create a file John> for each user. The files can be sym-links to files in the users's John> directories if necessary. Each user owns his/her file. Then cat the John> files together into /etc/mail/virtusertable (or whatever path you use), John> and run makemap on that. I have a virtual hosting site that does exactly John> this (with a cron job that checks hourly if any of the users' files John> changed, and does the cat and makemap if so), and it works just fine. Gregory> This could be dangerous. What is to stop user A from redirecting user Gregory> B's domain? John> Well, in our case, we know everyone involved, and there is mutual trust, John> so no worries. But in general it's still easy to solve: simply: John> % grep -iv foo.tld foo.txt John> where foo.tld is the domain and foo.txt is the virtual user sub-table John> for that domain. Then cat the output of the grep for each domain into John> the master virtual user table before doing the makemap. Doh! Of course I meant the grep without the -v. I was thinking of another cron job which could do the grep -v and report bogosity, and mixed the two. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 11 11:48:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from katroo.Sendmail.COM (katroo.Sendmail.COM [206.189.75.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DFA315472 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:48:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gshapiro@sendmail.com) Received: from scooter.sendmail.com (IDENT:8vrYdueKDPiIvIXziq22J1BtHtcc42gO@scooter.Sendmail.COM [206.189.75.23]) by katroo.Sendmail.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04589; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:48:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by scooter.sendmail.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA17173; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:48:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14056.7675.167207.780586@scooter.sendmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:48:11 -0800 (PST) From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: John Beck Cc: Gregory Neil Shapiro , admin@wholesalehosting.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, sendmail-questions@sendmail.org Subject: Re: I must be stupid In-Reply-To: <199903111939.LAA21852@opal.eng.sun.com> References: <36E7A1E938E.955CADMIN@domains.md> <199903111332.FAA20021@opal.eng.sun.com> <14056.5768.21905.815820@scooter.sendmail.com> <199903111939.LAA21852@opal.eng.sun.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.68 under 21.2 "Boreas" XEmacs Lucid (beta10) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John> Well, in our case, we know everyone involved, and there is mutual John> trust, so no worries. But in general it's still easy to solve: John> simply: John> % grep -iv foo.tld foo.txt John> where foo.tld is the domain and foo.txt is the virtual user sub-table John> for that domain. Then cat the output of the grep for each domain John> into the master virtual user table before doing the makemap. Nope again :) Assuming I wanted to steal all mail to otherperson.com and I control mydomain.com: @otherperson.com gshapiro+mydomain.com@mydomain.com Your grep would allow that through. It really needs a script which only allows non-qualified user names on the left hand side (and a default entry) and tacks on the domain that the user controls. Better to be paranoid. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 11 11:59:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from playground.sun.com (playground.Sun.COM [192.9.5.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE71914FF4 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:59:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jbeck@eng.sun.com) Received: from opal.eng.sun.com (sun-barr.Sun.COM [192.9.9.1]) by playground.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05343; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:59:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from opal (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by opal.eng.sun.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22056; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:59:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199903111959.LAA22056@opal.eng.sun.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Gregory Neil Shapiro Cc: John Beck , admin@wholesalehosting.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, sendmail-questions@sendmail.org From: John Beck X-URL: http://WWW.Sendmail.ORG/ X-Face: "+X:bV72?Awv6$S2YK]-N42~<.<7-Z,li!FJJ2sLE.B.yTSlrM1K('8hn6Jnm(]lERAE=h] 8w:X@lulT)G62'cVtqW'2[clcpmcI'=VY`N{V9!9KH?{*I,q7I!y!c`MdfZ|(,Bv82jtS5OHg@]S&9 qBH^aYk[/jOS*N~6+K\^~P'`M>2\ Subject: Re: I must be stupid In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:48:11 PST." <14056.7675.167207.780586@scooter.sendmail.com> References: <36E7A1E938E.955CADMIN@domains.md> <199903111332.FAA20021@opal.eng.sun.com> <14056.5768.21905.815820@scooter.sendmail.com> <199903111939.LAA21852@opal.eng.sun.com> <14056.7675.167207.780586@scooter.sendmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:59:22 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John> Well, in our case, we know everyone involved, and there is mutual trust, John> so no worries. But in general it's still easy to solve: simply: John> % grep -iv foo.tld foo.txt John> where foo.tld is the domain and foo.txt is the virtual user sub-table John> for that domain. Then cat the output of the grep for each domain into John> the master virtual user table before doing the makemap. Gregory> Nope again :) Gregory> Assuming I wanted to steal all mail to otherperson.com and I control Gregory> mydomain.com: Gregory> @otherperson.com gshapiro+mydomain.com@mydomain.com Gregory> Your grep would allow that through. It really needs a script which Gregory> only allows non-qualified user names on the left hand side (and a Gregory> default entry) and tacks on the domain that the user controls. Better Gregory> to be paranoid. OK, OK. It's still easy to do this, though. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 11 12:11:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from carme.eclipse.net.uk (carme.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C229E15324; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 12:11:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by carme.eclipse.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA99633; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 20:10:20 GMT Message-ID: <36E8239F.8A26F227@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 20:12:15 +0000 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Palmer Cc: Mark Conway Wirt , Haifeng Guo , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mail server setup References: <72642.921136299@gjp.erols.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > If you're running under something like VXFS, Has VXFS been ported to FreeBSD? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 11 12:58:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gjp.erols.com (alex-va-n008c079.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC6A151CA; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 12:58:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA83445; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 15:58:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) To: Stuart Henderson Cc: Mark Conway Wirt , Haifeng Guo , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Mail server setup In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 11 Mar 1999 20:12:15 GMT." <36E8239F.8A26F227@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 15:58:13 -0500 Message-ID: <83440.921185893@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Stuart Henderson wrote in message ID <36E8239F.8A26F227@eclipse.net.uk>: > > If you're running under something like VXFS, > > Has VXFS been ported to FreeBSD? Ask veritas. :) I imagine they wouldn't be adverse to such an effort. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 11 16:45: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from vnode.vmunix.com (vnode.vmunix.com [209.112.4.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60D361543E; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 16:44:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@vnode.vmunix.com) Received: (from mark@localhost) by vnode.vmunix.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA04933; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 19:44:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mark) Message-ID: <19990311194422.A4381@vmunix.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 19:44:22 -0500 From: Mark Mayo To: Gary Palmer , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mail server setup References: <73188.921138367@gjp.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.1i In-Reply-To: <73188.921138367@gjp.erols.com>; from Gary Palmer on Thu, Mar 11, 1999 at 02:46:07AM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Mar 11, 1999 at 02:46:07AM -0500, Gary Palmer wrote: > [ delete all trace of previous message so as not to think any one person > is being picked upon ] [SNIP] > Simply put: NFS has its place. Performance-critical systems isn't one of the > areas NFS is suited for. Not unless you want to throw a lot more hardware at > the problem than you really need to. NFS gets you one thing that locally attached disk can't - multiple front-end hosts can see the same set of data. For setups with several hosts handling the mail, it is trivial to build a SMTP/POP proxy to route people to the correct mail server based on username (I know, I've done it..). That gets you nice horizontal scaling to infinity pretty much, but doesn't help you out in terms of availability or serviceability. How do you do an OS upgrade on a front end host with no cx impact? What happens if a host goes down? What happens if your disk array goes tits up? I'm not saying I like NFS.. but when done correctly (use a real RDBMS for most of the POP stuff to eliminate trips to the NFS server for mail checks, avoid locking over NFS, failover NFS servers listed for clients, etc.) you can build a decent NFS based solution that scales and is very tolerant to host / filer crashes. I'd do it with local disk if I could, but I haven't been able to come up with a solution based on local disk that I'm satisfied with.. At any rate, building large email solutions is a neat challenge, and I'm not sure NFS or local disk has clear advantages. In the past, I've leaned towards local disk, but now I'm swinging over to the NFS camp.. 8) Of course, that probably has just as much to do with my hatred of Sun's ludicrously priced A5000 disk arrays I'm using right now as it does with anything else.. ;) That and the fact that I'm happy as pie with my NetApp F760 test units, and F740 production filers.. > Yes, this is verging on a religious argument. However, the fact that even Sun > now says that NFS mounted /var/mail spools is a bad idea speaks volumes. Interesting how Sun started making such statements shortly after they started pushing SIMS - which doesn't run over NFS reliably. Coincidence? :-) -Mark > > Gary > -- > Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member > FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mark Mayo mark@vmunix.com RingZero Comp. http://www.vmunix.com/mark ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "The human brain is like an enormous fish - it is flat and slimy and has gills through which it can see." -- Monty Python To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 11 20:18:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gjp.erols.com (alex-va-n008c079.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1099714C0C for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 20:18:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA89012; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 23:18:04 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Mark Mayo Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Mail server setup In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 11 Mar 1999 19:44:22 EST." <19990311194422.A4381@vmunix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 23:18:04 -0500 Message-ID: <89008.921212284@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mark Mayo wrote in message ID <19990311194422.A4381@vmunix.com>: > NFS gets you one thing that locally attached disk can't - multiple > front-end hosts can see the same set of data. For setups with several > hosts handling the mail, it is trivial to build a SMTP/POP proxy to > route people to the correct mail server based on username (I know, I've > done it..). That gets you nice horizontal scaling to infinity pretty > much, but doesn't help you out in terms of availability or serviceability. > How do you do an OS upgrade on a front end host with no cx impact? What > happens if a host goes down? What happens if your disk array goes tits up? However you do it, you end up with the same problem. Whereever the mail is stored becomes a SPOF (Single Point Of Failure), unless you go to some sort of HA scenario, and none of the HA products that I've seen are any where close to being `mature' enough for my liking. In my case, we have large Sun boxes as message stores, accessed by multiple front-end boxes which do data indirection to present one `virtual' message store to the public. Sure, you can do weird stuff (delivering to two different hosts in parallel), but thats really expensive (tm). We have other tricks up our sleeves which we'll test soon for message replication :) > I'm not saying I like NFS.. but when done correctly (use a real RDBMS for > most of the POP stuff to eliminate trips to the NFS server for mail checks, > avoid locking over NFS, failover NFS servers listed for clients, etc.) > you can build a decent NFS based solution that scales and is very tolerant > to host / filer crashes. I'd do it with local disk if I could, but I haven't > been able to come up with a solution based on local disk that I'm satisfied w > ith.. Because of software reasons or hardware reasons? To be perfectly honest, to my mind, the lack performance in NFS writes it off to my mind instantly. I can get high performance out of a host based backend with a fraction of the work of what you propose in the above paragraph. > At any rate, building large email solutions is a neat challenge, and I'm not > sure NFS or local disk has clear advantages. In the past, I've leaned towards > local disk, but now I'm swinging over to the NFS camp.. 8) Traitor!!! Hang him at sunrise!! :) > Of course, that probably has just as much to do with my hatred of Sun's > ludicrously priced A5000 disk arrays I'm using right now as it does with > anything else.. ;) That and the fact that I'm happy as pie with my NetApp > F760 test units, and F740 production filers.. Anyone who buys storage direct from Sun needs their head looked at. The A3500 is a rebadged unit from Symbios (now LSI Logic), which we get for a lot less than Sun charge for it. The A5000 is JBOD on fiberchannel. No write cache. Interesting unit. Sucks for real applications. Again, LSI have a real fiberchannel based RAID system, and are trying their hardest to make it interoperate with other equipment enough (e.g. FC switches) that it may actually work, unlike Suns stuff. > Interesting how Sun started making such statements shortly after they > started pushing SIMS - which doesn't run over NFS reliably. Coincidence? :-) SIMS is close to the right architecture IMHO. Its just way too expensive and large-scale to replace NFS /var/mail in a lot of instances. But thats another story. If you go to the lengths you describe above, and have the RDBMS database, yada yada yada, then yes, NFS may actually scale and perform. However, thats a lot of work, which I don't feel is justified when the proxied-to-large-backend solution works just as well. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 11 21:18:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from andromeda. (www.qii.net [209.26.120.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EBFE614EB5 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 21:18:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin@wholesalehosting.com) Received: from bob by andromeda. (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id AAA15369; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 00:20:43 -0500 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 00:17:24 -0500 From: admin To: SendMail Questions , "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Ok, so i'm stupid =) Reply-To: admin@wholesalehosting.com Message-Id: <36E8A36482.955FADMIN@domains.md> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.24 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Than you all for all the responses to my seemingly 'needs to be a default thing' type of need for multiple /etc/virtusertable weirdness.. It seems to me that a multiple virtusertable system should be as easy as adding a define(`ALIAS_FILE',`/etc/aliases,/usr/home/username/.usersaliasfile') to my .mc and rebuilding the sendmail.cf - to make it check multiple places for individual domains aliases.. like i did for all majordomo's aliases.. ------------------------------ Wholesale Hosting Inc. Po.Box 273 Davidsonville, MD 21035 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Mar 11 22:56:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from vnode.vmunix.com (vnode.vmunix.com [209.112.4.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F5F14F8C; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 22:56:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@vnode.vmunix.com) Received: (from mark@localhost) by vnode.vmunix.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA07089; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 01:56:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mark) Message-ID: <19990312015634.B6746@vmunix.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 01:56:34 -0500 From: Mark Mayo To: Gary Palmer Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mail server setup References: <19990311194422.A4381@vmunix.com> <89008.921212284@gjp.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.1i In-Reply-To: <89008.921212284@gjp.erols.com>; from Gary Palmer on Thu, Mar 11, 1999 at 11:18:04PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.7-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Mar 11, 1999 at 11:18:04PM -0500, Gary Palmer wrote: > Mark Mayo wrote in message ID > <19990311194422.A4381@vmunix.com>: > > done it..). That gets you nice horizontal scaling to infinity pretty > > much, but doesn't help you out in terms of availability or serviceability. > > How do you do an OS upgrade on a front end host with no cx impact? What > > happens if a host goes down? What happens if your disk array goes tits up? > > However you do it, you end up with the same problem. Whereever the mail is > stored becomes a SPOF (Single Point Of Failure), unless you go to some sort of > HA scenario, and none of the HA products that I've seen are any where close to > being `mature' enough for my liking. Well that's the real trick, now isn't it.. :) I'm at the point where I'm trying to decide if the HA solutions out there can really do what they claim.. I've done heavy testing on the NetApp clustering stuff in the last month, and to be honest, I've trashed "heads" in just about every way I can imagine, and the clustered failover kicked in and worked 9 times out of 10, which for me is "good enough" for an ISP email environment. > > I'm not saying I like NFS.. but when done correctly (use a real RDBMS for > > most of the POP stuff to eliminate trips to the NFS server for mail checks, > > avoid locking over NFS, failover NFS servers listed for clients, etc.) > > you can build a decent NFS based solution that scales and is very tolerant > > to host / filer crashes. I'd do it with local disk if I could, but I haven't > > been able to come up with a solution based on local disk that I'm satisfied w > > ith.. > > Because of software reasons or hardware reasons? Both. I'm not that impressed with much of the hardware out there, and in my case, the hardware has to work with Sun boxen. And work perfectly. In terms of software, I don't see the flexibility or availability I would like with host based storage. I suppose ultimately you could sum up my thoughts as "I like the idea of network accessable storage - I just wish there was something better than NFS to do it with! Oh well, guess I'll have to use NFS, but do the application so that it actually works..". 8-) > To be perfectly honest, to my > mind, the lack performance in NFS writes it off to my mind instantly. I can > get high performance out of a host based backend with a fraction of the work > of what you propose in the above paragraph. Agreed. My point, however, was that I'm not looking for simply high performance. High performance, to be perfectly honest, is trivial to implement. Balancing high performance, a reasonable price, and high availability in one bundle is where the fun starts. :) As for NFS performance, you'd be surprised what a NetApp F760 with Gigabit ethernet can do. It ain't cheap, but it sure as hell ain't slow. Seeing how this is a FreeBSD list, I'll keep this relevant by mentioning that how I would approach a mail system on FreeBSD differs tremendously from how I would do it with Solaris. Why? 1. Sun UFS is slow as hell. Sun NFS generally works well, and is reasonably quick. 2. FreeBSD NFS is not usable in a high performance mail environment. FreeBSD SoftUpdates is fast as blazing hell. Moving from softupdates on local disk to NFS on a FreeBSD system is a MAJOR, MAJOR performance hit. Moving from Sun's crappy UFS to NFS on a Solaris box in many cases is a performance increase, not decrease. :) > > Of course, that probably has just as much to do with my hatred of Sun's > > ludicrously priced A5000 disk arrays I'm using right now as it does with > > anything else.. ;) That and the fact that I'm happy as pie with my NetApp > > F760 test units, and F740 production filers.. > > Anyone who buys storage direct from Sun needs their head looked at. The A3500 Fortunately I can save face in this scenario and say that I walked into my current situation well after a room full of A5000's were purchased.. :( I've never seen such an over-hyped piece of sh@! for storage. The only real world application I can imagine using it for would be streaming enormous files from array to array, or sucking a huge data set through an E10000 for processing. In other words, there probably are no real world applications that the A5000 is well suited for. :-) Not to mention it often takes Sun *days* to trouble shoot a problem.. It's very encouraging to see companies like DPT offering very functional RAID systems that can work on FreeBSD. Used to be you were stuck with expensive, propriatary solutions from Sun, Auspex, EMC and such if you wanted to play that game. I'm very excited about real disk solutions for FreeBSD. :) Then I can stop using Sun for more things. :) > > Interesting how Sun started making such statements shortly after they > > started pushing SIMS - which doesn't run over NFS reliably. Coincidence? :-) > > SIMS is close to the right architecture IMHO. Its just way too expensive and > large-scale to replace NFS /var/mail in a lot of instances. But thats another > story. I'm only interested in large-scale ISP mail. Solutions for less than 1/4 million mailboxes are numerous, and /var/mail type environments are, as you say, a whole different ball of wax. SIMS does have a good architecure, it's just stupidly priced, like so many of Sun's products. > If you go to the lengths you describe above, and have the RDBMS database, yada > yada yada, then yes, NFS may actually scale and perform. However, thats a lot > of work, which I don't feel is justified when the proxied-to-large-backend > solution works just as well. It's not much work at all, really. You just can't download it in a conveniently packaged .tgz file -- yet. I'm sure in a year or two, this sort of stuff will reach the public domain. At any rate, there are more and more solutions coming out these days. From procmail delivery, to qmail's maildir, to exim's format, NFS safe mailbox formats are finally available. With just a touch more work, you can take this approach to a higher performance, more redundant systems that works better over NFS *and* local disk. That's a good thing. :) -Mark > > Gary > -- > Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member > FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mark Mayo mark@vmunix.com RingZero Comp. http://www.vmunix.com/mark ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "The human brain is like an enormous fish - it is flat and slimy and has gills through which it can see." -- Monty Python To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 12 0:30:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ozone.fmi.fi (ozone.fmi.fi [193.166.223.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79BBF14E3B for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 00:30:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hurtta@ozone.fmi.fi) Received: (from hurtta@localhost) by ozone.fmi.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3/test/1998-04-28) id KAA02709; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:30:03 +0200 (EET) From: "Kari E. Hurtta" Message-Id: <199903120830.KAA02709@ozone.fmi.fi> Subject: Re: Ok, so i'm stupid =) In-Reply-To: <36E8A36482.955FADMIN@domains.md> from admin at "Mar 12, 1999 00:17:24 am" To: admin@wholesalehosting.com Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:30:03 +0200 (EET) Cc: sendmail-questions@sendmail.org (SendMail Questions), freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG (freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG) Reply-To: sendmail-questions@sendmail.org (sendmail-questions) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL53+ (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org admin: > Than you all for all the responses to my seemingly 'needs to be a > default thing' type of need for multiple /etc/virtusertable weirdness.. > It seems to me that a multiple virtusertable system should be as easy as > adding a > > define(`ALIAS_FILE',`/etc/aliases,/usr/home/username/.usersaliasfile') > > to my .mc and rebuilding the sendmail.cf - to make it check multiple > places for individual domains aliases.. like i did for all majordomo's > aliases.. Multiple virtusertables is possible (bu using sequence -map type (*)), but not trivial. / Kari Hurtta (*) Aliases implemention also uses sequence -map type internally: KAlias0 implicit /etc/aliases KAlias1 implicit /usr/home/username/.usersaliasfile Kaliases.files sequence Alias0 Alias1 Kaliases switch aliases Or something like that (from memory) :-) (switch -map type consults service switch.) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 12 0:51: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (penguin-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se [194.237.142.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59763152AC for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 00:50:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from per@erix.ericsson.se) Received: from super.du.etx.ericsson.se (per@super.du.etx.ericsson.se [130.100.34.16]) by penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.9.0/8.9.0/WIREfire-1.2) with ESMTP id JAA17025; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 09:50:04 +0100 (MET) Received: (from per@localhost) by super.du.etx.ericsson.se (8.9.3/8.9.3/erix-1.6) id JAA18415; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 09:50:11 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 09:50:11 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <199903120850.JAA18415@super.du.etx.ericsson.se> From: Per Hedeland To: admin@wholesalehosting.com Subject: Re: Ok, so i'm stupid =) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, sendmail-questions@sendmail.org In-Reply-To: <199903120830.KAA02709@ozone.fmi.fi> References: <199903120830.KAA02709@ozone.fmi.fi> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Kari E. Hurtta" wrote: >admin: >> to my .mc and rebuilding the sendmail.cf - to make it check multiple >> places for individual domains aliases.. like i did for all majordomo's >> aliases.. > >Multiple virtusertables is possible (bu using sequence -map type (*)), >but not trivial. And doing it in this particular case is of course subject to the security problems already discussed at length here... --Per Hedeland To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 12 0:58:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ozone.fmi.fi (ozone.fmi.fi [193.166.223.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CEE215263 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 00:58:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hurtta@ozone.fmi.fi) Received: (from hurtta@localhost) by ozone.fmi.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3/test/1998-04-28) id KAA03143; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:57:46 +0200 (EET) From: "Kari E. Hurtta" Message-Id: <199903120857.KAA03143@ozone.fmi.fi> Subject: Re: Ok, so i'm stupid =) In-Reply-To: <199903120850.JAA18415@super.du.etx.ericsson.se> from Per Hedeland at "Mar 12, 1999 09:50:11 am" To: sendmail+per@sendmail.org (Per Hedeland) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:57:46 +0200 (EET) Cc: admin@wholesalehosting.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, sendmail-questions@sendmail.org Reply-To: sendmail@sendmail.org (sendmail) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL53+ (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=ELM921229066-3056-0_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --ELM921229066-3056-0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Per Hedeland: > "Kari E. Hurtta" wrote: > >admin: > >> to my .mc and rebuilding the sendmail.cf - to make it check multiple > >> places for individual domains aliases.. like i did for all majordomo's > >> aliases.. > > > >Multiple virtusertables is possible (bu using sequence -map type (*)), > >but not trivial. > > And doing it in this particular case is of course subject to the > security problems already discussed at length here... And questioner should fix his mailing robot. / Kari Hurtta --ELM921229066-3056-0_ Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline; filename=Blah Content-Description: Blah Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-Path: Received: from knecht.sendmail.org (knecht.sendmail.org [209.31.233.160]) by ozone.fmi.fi (8.9.3/8.9.3/test/1998-04-28) with ESMTP id KAA02882 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:38:28 +0200 (EET) Received: from ua7.cnnet.com (ua7.cnnet.com [207.229.6.5]) by knecht.sendmail.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA01810 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 00:38:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199903120838.AAA01810@knecht.sendmail.org> Received: from [206.55.64.73] by (NTMail 3.03.0017/1.aikr) with ESMTP id na690521 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 01:34:36 -0700 From: "admin@wholesalehosting.com" To: "Kari E. Hurtta" Subject: Mail Manager Help Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 01:34:36 -0700 X-ListManager: cnnet@cnnet.com Status: RO Mail Manager Help File ---------------------- You have sent a command to the Mail Manager that could not be understood. The default Mail Manager account is mail@domain.name, where domain.name is the domain name of the account you want to set a message for. The following commands are available to you: Setting a Holiday Message ------------------------- To set a Holiday Message you will need to send an email message with the following contents to the Mail Manager: holiday password (blank line) Message Text For example: holiday brian password sssh I'm on holiday at the moment and will contact you on my return. will result in anyone sending an email to brian@domain.name receiving an automatic reply that reads "I'm on holiday at the moment and will contact you on my return. Removing a Holiday Message -------------------------- To remove a Holiday Message you will need to send an email message with the following contents to the Mail Manager: noholiday password Setting a Plan Message ---------------------- To set a Plan Message you will need to send an email message with the following contents to the Mail Manager: plan password (blank line) Plan Text For example: plan brian password sssh This is my email account. Provided the Finger Server is enabled this will result in anyone fingering brian@domain.name receiving an automatic reply that returns the text "This is my email account.", along with details of the number of email messages held in the account, both read and unread. Removing a Plan Message ---------------------- To remove a Plan Message you will need to send an email message with the following contents to the Mail Manager: plan password If the Finger Server is enabled this will display details of the number of email messages held in the account, both read and unread, but no text will be added to the display. 20-October-1997 --ELM921229066-3056-0_-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 12 3:21:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tgn2.tgn.net (tgn2.tgn.net [205.241.85.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A56C14A0B for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 03:21:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from butlermd@tgn.net) Received: from brazrr1cir2.tgn.net (brazrr1cir2.tgn.net [207.43.27.250]) by tgn2.tgn.net (8.8.5/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA02076 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 05:20:58 -0600 (CST) From: butlermd@tgn.net (Michael Butler) To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: /usr/local/etc/fingerdir/hostdata: Permission denied Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 05:19:35 -0600 Organization: Texas GulfNet Reply-To: butlermd@tgn.net Message-ID: <36fcf796.192508608@mail.tgn.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't see anything in the docs about this file. I opened up for 755 perms for the data files in the fingerdir and all upstream looks OK. I even created a file with open perms called hostdata... sheesh! fingerd: daemon starting (pid 1897) fingerd: /usr/local/etc/fingerdir/hostdata: Permission denied clues? ____________________________________________________________ Michael Butler, Texas GulfNet, | www.tgn.net =20 908 South Brooks, PO Box 2089 |=20 Brazoria, TX 77422-2089 | Voice 409-798-NETT Part of the Pointecom International| FAX 409-798-6398 =20 Network and the Global Internet | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 12 9:19:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.uk1.vbc.net (ns.uk1.vbc.net [194.207.2.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB91714C82 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 09:19:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grant@vbc.net) Received: from gromit (gromit.uk1.vbc.net [194.207.2.6]) by ns.uk1.vbc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA01788 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 17:19:35 GMT (envelope-from grant@vbc.net) Message-ID: <01ea01be6cac$4e8d2440$0602cfc2@gromit.uk1.vbc.net> From: "Grant Beckerleg" To: Subject: client can't view own site Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 17:18:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello there, I am looking for any clues to a clients problem. I have recently set up a couple of accounts on our isp server. One of them is not able to view his own website. All his e-mail service is OK. When he goes to his homepage using his domain name he gets a white screen with 'INDEXED' across the top and an arrow, but if he uses his IP address he can view it. He can also view his site from outside. Can anyone offer any clues to the problem? I think I have missed something when setting this account up, but I am very new to this. Rgds, Grant Beckerleg VBCnet GB Ltd http://www.vbc.net tel +44 117 929 1316 fax +44 117 927 2015 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 12 9:41:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from user1.channel1.com (user1.channel1.com [199.1.13.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FAB81538F; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 09:41:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from admin@channel1.com) Received: from ntadmin (ntadmin.channel1.com [204.96.33.24]) by user1.channel1.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id MAA25202; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 12:40:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990312123949.023de720@pop.channel1.com> X-Sender: deepblue@pop.channel1.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 12:39:49 -0500 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mail Handler Subject: shell-init and super-block problems Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@channel1.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Folks -- A recent disk crash produced two problems. After replacing the bad disk, three previously unaffected drives had this problem: fsck -y /dev/sd2s1e ** /dev/rsd2s1e BAD SUPER BLOCK: VALUES IN SUPER BLOCK DISAGREE WITH THOSE IN FIRST ALTERNATE /dev/rsd2s1e: LABELED AS A 4.2BSD FILE SYSTEM, BUT BLOCK SIZE IS 0 What caused this and how can it be fixed? Second, it was necessary to restore the machine's /usr/home (a separate) partition. Now, all logins get: shell-init: could not get current directory: permission denied. Logins do get placed in $HOME and a simple "cd" will cure the problem. Until then, any "pwd" command will fail. drwxr-xr-x 20 root wheel 512 Mar 12 11:37 usr/ drwxr-xr-x 3735 root wheel 63488 Mar 11 16:36 homes/ In an archive message, J Wunsch suggested problems with fstab. Ours is: /dev/sd4s1e /usr/homes ufs rw,nosuid 1 1 Does anyone have any suggestions for either of these issues? Thanks, Brian Brian Miller admin@channel1.com Channel 1 Communications 617-864-0100 voice 617-354-3100 fax http://www.channel1.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 12 10:11:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rocket.cyber1.net (gnat-d0cede82.neptunedata.net [208.206.222.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF1B1530F for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:11:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pbrezny@cyber1.net) Received: by rocket.cyber1.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:14:59 -0500 Message-ID: <914078369F42D2118FE000600896E00003B4E9@rocket.cyber1.net> From: Peter Brezny To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: sendmail Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:14:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org how do i tell what version of sendmail is running on my freebsd2.2.8 box? thanks. Peter Brezny cyber1.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 12 10:13: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rocket.cyber1.net (gnat-d0cede82.neptunedata.net [208.206.222.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2624914F95 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:12:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pbrezny@cyber1.net) Received: by rocket.cyber1.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:16:29 -0500 Message-ID: <914078369F42D2118FE000600896E00003B4EA@rocket.cyber1.net> From: Peter Brezny To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: pop/imap servers Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:16:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org is there a standard that most folks use, like sendmail, for pop and imap? thanks. Peter Brezny cyber1.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 12 10:24:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from harfang.CC.UMontreal.CA (harfang.CC.UMontreal.CA [132.204.2.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C027F1556F for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:24:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from beaupran@JSP.UMontreal.CA) Received: from epsom.jsp.umontreal.ca (epsom.JSP.UMontreal.CA [132.204.45.25]) by harfang.CC.UMontreal.CA (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA26058; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:23:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from spi83.jsp.umontreal.ca (spi83.jsp.umontreal.ca [132.204.45.87]) by epsom.jsp.umontreal.ca via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/JSP1789) id NAA21521; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:23:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (beaupran@localhost) by spi83.jsp.umontreal.ca via SMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/JSP1789) id NAA13216; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:23:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: spi83.jsp.umontreal.ca: beaupran owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:23:56 -0500 (EST) From: BEAUPRE Antoine To: Peter Brezny Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail In-Reply-To: <914078369F42D2118FE000600896E00003B4E9@rocket.cyber1.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How 'bout telnet localhost 25 :) On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, Peter Brezny wrote: > how do i tell what version of sendmail is running on my freebsd2.2.8 > box? > > thanks. > > Peter Brezny > cyber1.net > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > ############################### ## Au nom de l'etat, ## ## La force s'appelle droit. ## ## Au main de l'individu, ## ## Elle se nomme crime. ## ## ## ## -Berurier Noir ## ############################### Spidey Visitez http://www.JSP.UMontreal.CA/~beaupran To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 12 10:27:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com (s205m64.whistle.com [207.76.205.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39DDE14D91 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:27:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id KAA98931; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:27:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:27:40 -0800 (PST) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <199903121827.KAA98931@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, pbrezny@cyber1.net Subject: Re: sendmail In-Reply-To: <914078369F42D2118FE000600896E00003B4E9@rocket.cyber1.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >From: Peter Brezny >Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:14:58 -0500 >how do i tell what version of sendmail is running on my freebsd2.2.8 >box? If you're running sendmail as an SMTP server, one simple way is: telnet localhost 25 In my case, I get the response: Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost. Escape character is '^]'. 220 pau-amma.whistle.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.9.2/8.9.2; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:22:21 -0800 (PST) which says it's 8.9.2, running with a configuration file for 8.9.2, as well. (The latter is the designation after the /.) Alternatively, you could take a look at some mail that traversed your system; for example, the Received: header from my system that corresponds to the message that you sent reads: Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com (pau-amma.whistle.com [207.76.205.64]) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA98868 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 10:20:22 -0800 (PST) and you should note the same "8.9.2/8.9.2" string there. For the first method, "quit" is an appropriate way to terminate the session. Bear in mind that it is possible to specify alternate strings for sendmail to spit out in such cases, so neither is quite foolproof. Cheers, david -- David Wolfskill UNIX System Administrator dhw@whistle.com voice: (650) 577-7158 pager: (650) 371-4621 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 12 15: 4:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from palrel1.hp.com (palrel1.hp.com [156.153.255.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BD6B154F8 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 15:04:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keithm@rc.rose.hp.com) Received: from hprrc726.rose.hp.com (hprrc726.rose.hp.com [15.56.217.6]) by palrel1.hp.com (8.8.6/8.8.5tis) with ESMTP id PAA01045; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 15:04:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from p50080mid.rose.hp.com by hprrc726.rose.hp.com with SMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA050579857; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 15:04:17 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990312145834.00860e50@spam.rose.hp.com> X-Sender: keithm@spam.rose.hp.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 14:58:34 -0800 To: Peter Brezny , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Keith Middlekauff Subject: Re: sendmail In-Reply-To: <914078369F42D2118FE000600896E00003B4E9@rocket.cyber1.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How about: sendmail -bt -d0.1 < /dev/null Version 8.8.8 Compiled with: LOG MATCHGECOS MIME7TO8 MIME8TO7 NAMED_BIND NETINET NETUNIX NEWDB NIS QUEUE SCANF SMTP USERDB ============ SYSTEM IDENTITY (after readcf) ============ (short domain name) $w = freebsd (canonical domain name) $j = freebsd.gvn.net (subdomain name) $m = gvn.net (node name) $k = freebsd.gvn.net ======================================================== At 01:14 PM 3/12/99 -0500, you wrote: >how do i tell what version of sendmail is running on my freebsd2.2.8 >box? > >thanks. > >Peter Brezny >cyber1.net > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Mar 12 15:53:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shell.monmouth.com (shell.monmouth.com [205.231.236.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE6AF1537F for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 15:52:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sales@lomag.net) Received: from lomag.net (bg-tc-ppp692.monmouth.com [209.191.59.126]) by shell.monmouth.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id SAA10991 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 18:52:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36E9A8CB.ACEC8F3B@lomag.net> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 18:52:43 -0500 From: Lomag Organization: Lomag Internet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Traffic Monitoring Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I have several ircd account users, and some of them request reports of their traffic, it would be a usefull tool for me too. Each user has their own IP, is there anyway to log their traffic and get some kind of program to give me bandwidth reports? Kind of like mrtg does.. Thanks, Lomag To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 13 0:54: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.shellnet.co.uk (smtp.shellnet.co.uk [194.129.209.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C055814E76 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 00:54:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steven@shellnet.com) Received: from dial-30-01.bolton.cspace.co.uk (dial-30-01.bolton.cspace.co.uk [194.128.147.46]) by smtp.shellnet.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1-shellnet.stevenf) with SMTP id IAA07743; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 08:53:31 GMT Posted-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 08:53:31 GMT From: steven@shellnet.com (Steven Fletcher) To: "Grant Beckerleg" Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: client can't view own site Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 08:53:25 GMT Message-ID: <36eb25d1.3335068@smtp.shellnet.co.uk> References: <01ea01be6cac$4e8d2440$0602cfc2@gromit.uk1.vbc.net> In-Reply-To: <01ea01be6cac$4e8d2440$0602cfc2@gromit.uk1.vbc.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 12 Mar 1999 17:18:11 -0000, you wrote: >Can anyone offer any clues to the problem? I think I have missed >something when setting this account up, but I am very new to this. Did you try the apache's "apachectl configtest" script just to make sure = you've got the syntax correct? Looking at your problem, I'd guess that you most likley have a DNS issue,= considering that your client can reach your site over vanilla IP = addresses. Are you sure that you've typed it correctly, and have the correct = reverse-dns in place if you're not using the ServerName directive. The text "INDEXED" certianly isn't in any part of the default Apache = config I've ever seen. A good test would be to get your client to telnet to the DNS entry on = port 80 and send a HEAD / HTTP/1.0 to make sure that it's definetly = running on the server that you think it is :) Without more information there's not much I could suggest. Steven Fletcher - Shellnet steven@shellnet.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 13 7:18:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from Radford.i-Plus.net (radford.i-plus.net [209.100.20.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9576E14E43 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 07:18:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rewt@i-Plus.net) Received: from www.i-plus.net (rewt@www.i-plus.net [209.100.20.4]) by Radford.i-Plus.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11247; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 10:18:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 10:18:20 -0500 (EST) From: Troy Settle To: Grant Beckerleg Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: client can't view own site In-Reply-To: <01ea01be6cac$4e8d2440$0602cfc2@gromit.uk1.vbc.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm guessing here, but it sounds like a problem one of our clients had when "MOVING" his site to our service. He had put in hard values for his DNS servers, and his former provider still had DNS configured to resolve his domain. Change DNS configuration on the client's machine fixed the problem (after a reboot of course). -- Troy Settle Network Administrator, iPlus Internet Services http://www.i-Plus.net On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, Grant Beckerleg wrote: > Hello there, > I am looking for any clues to a clients problem. > > I have recently set up a couple of accounts on our isp server. One of > them is not able to view his own website. All his e-mail service is > OK. > > When he goes to his homepage using his domain name he gets a white > screen with 'INDEXED' across the top and an arrow, but if he uses his > IP address he can view it. He can also view his site from outside. > > Can anyone offer any clues to the problem? I think I have missed > something when setting this account up, but I am very new to this. > > Rgds, > Grant Beckerleg VBCnet GB Ltd http://www.vbc.net > tel +44 117 929 1316 fax +44 117 927 2015 > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 13 7:27:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from Radford.i-Plus.net (radford.i-plus.net [209.100.20.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 245C014E09 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 07:27:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rewt@i-Plus.net) Received: from www.i-plus.net (rewt@www.i-plus.net [209.100.20.4]) by Radford.i-Plus.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11729; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 10:26:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 10:26:51 -0500 (EST) From: Troy Settle To: Peter Brezny Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pop/imap servers In-Reply-To: <914078369F42D2118FE000600896E00003B4EA@rocket.cyber1.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've been having really good luck with: sendmail procmail (for local delivery to $HOME/.mail) cucipop UW IMAP 4.4 -- Troy Settle Network Administrator, iPlus Internet Services http://www.i-Plus.net On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, Peter Brezny wrote: > is there a standard that most folks use, like sendmail, for pop and > imap? > > thanks. > > Peter Brezny > cyber1.net > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 13 10: 6:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from t15.tempest.sk (t15.tempest.sk [195.28.96.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD7414EAC for ; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 10:06:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ludo_koren@tempest.sk) Received: (from koren@localhost) by t15.tempest.sk (8.9.2/8.9.2) id TAA48822; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 19:05:38 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 19:05:38 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199903131805.TAA48822@t15.tempest.sk> From: Ludo Koren To: pbrezny@cyber1.net Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <914078369F42D2118FE000600896E00003B4E9@rocket.cyber1.net> (message from Peter Brezny on Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:14:58 -0500) Subject: Re: sendmail Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > how do i tell what version of sendmail is running on my > freebsd2.2.8 box? what /usr/sbin/sendmail ludo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 13 11:39:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rocket.cyber1.net (gnat-d0cede82.neptunedata.net [208.206.222.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F5714C23 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 11:39:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pbrezny@cyber1.net) Received: by rocket.cyber1.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 14:43:02 -0500 Message-ID: <914078369F42D2118FE000600896E00003B505@rocket.cyber1.net> From: Peter Brezny To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: bind Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 14:42:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org does bsd 2.2.8 come with bind installed. and how do i tell if it is there and what version? are there significant improovments in bind8? thanks. Peter Brezny cyber1.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 13 11:42:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rocket.cyber1.net (gnat-d0cede82.neptunedata.net [208.206.222.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E723414CBA for ; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 11:42:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pbrezny@cyber1.net) Received: by rocket.cyber1.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 14:46:22 -0500 Message-ID: <914078369F42D2118FE000600896E00003B506@rocket.cyber1.net> From: Peter Brezny To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: network card configuration Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 14:46:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org So, i've got a supported network card, an older jumpered isa card, but it's not detected on installaiton of freebsd 2.2.8 release. how do i go in to configure the card.?. thanks. Peter Brezny cyber1.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 13 14:33:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from techpower.net (techpower.net [205.133.231.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE11314DDB for ; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 14:32:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hometeam@techpower.net) Received: from localhost (hometeam@localhost) by techpower.net (8.9.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA33202; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 17:35:51 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 17:35:51 -0500 (EST) From: hometeam To: Ludo Koren Cc: pbrezny@cyber1.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail In-Reply-To: <199903131805.TAA48822@t15.tempest.sk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org telnet to localhost 25 and it will give the version your running then type HELO :) On Sat, 13 Mar 1999, Ludo Koren wrote: > > > how do i tell what version of sendmail is running on my > > freebsd2.2.8 box? > > what /usr/sbin/sendmail > > > ludo > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 13 15:48:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from host07.rwsystems.net (kasie.rwsystems.net [209.197.192.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E23614EF3; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 15:47:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwyatt@RWSystems.net) Received: from kasie.rwsystems.net([209.197.192.103]) (2967 bytes) by host07.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 17:22:32 -0600 (CST) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Dec-24) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 17:22:06 -0600 (CST) From: James Wyatt To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Mark Mayo , Gary Palmer Subject: Re: Mail server setup In-Reply-To: <89008.921212284@gjp.erols.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 11 Mar 1999, Gary Palmer wrote: > Anyone who buys storage direct from Sun needs their head looked at. The A3500 > is a rebadged unit from Symbios (now LSI Logic), which we get for a lot less > than Sun charge for it. The A5000 is JBOD on fiberchannel. No write cache. > Interesting unit. Sucks for real applications. Again, LSI have a real > fiberchannel based RAID system, and are trying their hardest to make it > interoperate with other equipment enough (e.g. FC switches) that it may > actually work, unlike Suns stuff. I've had great success with IBMs SSA setup, we currently have 16 4.5G drives in one drawer and 32 9GB in another two running HA/CMP for a 250,000 message/day EDI system. I was *amazed* though, when I saw the costs for our next drawer: $8500 for the drawer and $3500/drive for the 16 18GB drives! (I intend to try the RAID controller this time because direct mirroring is so costly.) The faceplate for the panel is $170! The new DLT library was equally shocking. Our customer wants to pull-up *any* EDI message over 7 years of traffic with numerous keys within the data (Car ID, VIN, Bill No, etc...). Fortunately they have the pockets to pay for it when they demand 100% functionality up 99%+ of the time. These units *do* work very well, though, and I can stretch SSA cables hundreds of feet when the server room is short on space. We use HA which allows us to rapidly failover machines and that is harder to scale with plain Diff-SCSI. One of our tricker systems management issues was telling when the failover happens. We solved it for looking at the backup LAN cards which go away when HA has tripped. Is there anything like this for FreeBSD? I know there are SCSI arrays, but does anything allow for failover? We do *NOT* use NFS for any part of our system but user home directories. (We tried it on an older remote video imaging system, but NFS mounts took way too long to force-out) The thing I like about directing proxies is that they can be in parallel for SPoF reduction. If you have fractional mail spools, only a part of the user base is affected, but it will always be those folks that need it instantly and don't read advisories. 8{( The simpler function the node has (like only a-k usernames), the more quickly your outage will be over. Like others have said: enough rambling, I gotta get back to work - Jy@ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 13 17:17:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from host07.rwsystems.net (kasie.rwsystems.net [209.197.192.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB1A14F3D; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 17:17:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jwyatt@RWSystems.net) Received: from kasie.rwsystems.net([209.197.192.103]) (1259 bytes) by host07.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 18:51:12 -0600 (CST) (Smail-3.2.0.104 1998-Nov-20 #1 built 1998-Dec-24) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 18:51:12 -0600 (CST) From: James Wyatt To: Mark Mayo Cc: Gary Palmer , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mail server setup In-Reply-To: <19990312015634.B6746@vmunix.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, Mark Mayo wrote: > up my thoughts as "I like the idea of network accessable storage - I > just wish there was something better than NFS to do it with! Oh well, > guess I'll have to use NFS, but do the application so that it actually > works..". 8-) Samba? 1/2 of a 8{) We've found it to be better for our NT boxes to access than NFS (even though Exceed's products and support are good). Seriously, has anyone compared the performance of the two? Is anyone using Samba for unix mounts? Is it a workstation toy or stronger than NFS? I just know it works for our current use and I have been wondering if I could do more with it... - Jy@ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 13 23:13:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from arnold.neland.dk (mail.neland.dk [194.255.12.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8AE14C33 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 23:13:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA01482; Sun, 14 Mar 1999 08:12:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@swimsuit.internet.dk) Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 08:12:11 +0100 (CET) From: Leif Neland X-Sender: leifn@arnold.neland.dk To: Undisclosed recipients: ; Subject: Livingston Portmaster 2e telnet port != 23 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In debugging a sendmail problem (hanging in user wait, user getting message "The remote system hasn't answered in 60 seconds") I telnet'ed into the Portmaster 2e, and then did a "telnet mailserver 25" I get the greeting from sendmail, but sendmail does not seem to get anything I type to it. In fact, I tried telnet'ting to other ports (pop3,http) and different servers, and it seems 2e's can't telnet to other than the default telnet port. Is my 2e defect, or is it a firmware bug? I uploaded the latest firmware two weeks or so ago. Leif Neland To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Mar 13 23:19:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.volant.org (phoenix.volant.org [205.179.79.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E2DE14FA0 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 23:19:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from patl@phoenix.volant.org) Received: from asimov.phoenix.volant.org ([205.179.79.65]) by phoenix.volant.org with smtp (Exim 1.92 #8) id 10M5Ae-0007NH-00; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 23:18:48 -0800 Received: from localhost by asimov.phoenix.volant.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA08647; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 23:18:45 -0800 Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 23:18:45 -0800 (PST) From: patl@phoenix.volant.org Reply-To: patl@phoenix.volant.org Subject: Re: pop/imap servers To: Peter Brezny Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <914078369F42D2118FE000600896E00003B4EA@rocket.cyber1.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > is there a standard that most folks use, like sendmail, for pop and > imap? Not really, but there are only a few choices. I've been really happy with Cyrus. It's primarily IMAP4; but there's an optional daemon to access the IMAP mailboxes via POP3. I've also replaced sendmail with Exim; but that shouldn't affect the IMAP/POP server choice. -Pat To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message