From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Aug 22 19:56:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from db.geocrawler.com (db.gotocity.com [165.90.140.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D88914E07 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 19:56:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@db.geocrawler.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by db.geocrawler.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA19378; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 21:54:42 -0500 Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 21:54:42 -0500 Message-Id: <199908230254.VAA19378@db.geocrawler.com> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: No available tunnel device From: "Geocrawler.com" Reply-To: "Tim Sanker" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message was sent from Geocrawler.com by "Tim Sanker" Be sure to reply to that address. I am tring to setup FreeBSD to be a dialin server. Went to the FreeBSD Handbook, and even read what others have done here. Still no Go. I get The following error when I try to connect: Starting PPP for ttyd1 Working in auto mode Warning: No available tunnel devices found (Permission denied). If someone could explain on how to fix this. I am not a unix newbie, I have ran linux (Debian) for about 3 years now. This is my first try at FreeBSD. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks - Tim Sanker Geocrawler.com - The Knowledge Archive To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 23 1:49:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (storm.freebsd.org.uk [194.242.128.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C926F14D0B for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 01:49:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26764; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 09:49:27 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost.lan.Awfulhak.org [127.0.0.1]) by keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA51748; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 09:52:36 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199908230852.JAA51748@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Tim Sanker" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: No available tunnel device In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 22 Aug 1999 21:54:42 CDT." <199908230254.VAA19378@db.geocrawler.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 09:52:36 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dodgy permissions on /dev/tunX ? > This message was sent from Geocrawler.com by "Tim Sanker" > Be sure to reply to that address. > > I am tring to setup FreeBSD to be a dialin server. > Went to the FreeBSD Handbook, and even read > what others have done here. Still no Go. I get > The following error when I try to connect: > > Starting PPP for ttyd1 > Working in auto mode > Warning: No available tunnel devices found (Permission denied). > > If someone could explain on how to fix this. I am not a unix newbie, I have ran linux (Debian) for about 3 years now. This is my first try at FreeBSD. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks - Tim Sanker > > Geocrawler.com - The Knowledge Archive -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 23 3:26:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proteus.eclipse.net.uk (proteus.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF68C14BF5 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 03:26:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by proteus.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72D8D9B11; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:25:15 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37C12215.6801B5A0@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:27:33 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Evren Yurtesen Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: multiple machines in the same network References: <37BDA7A6.D999F103@ispro.net.tr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I have heard about somehthing called "virtual network" but I am not sure > of what it means and even if it is the thing I am searching for ? Sounds like VLAN as supported on some switches. That is really an admin thing not a security thing. A firewall with multiple ethernet segments is probably a good idea. Either one ethernet port on the firewall for each customer server, or at least an individual switch port, is probably best to prevent one customer from snooping another customer's traffic. Stuart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 23 10:22:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from thrir.virtuell.com (www.virtuell.com [212.6.128.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CE03A14BE3 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:22:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oliver.thuns@gmx.de) Received: (qmail 1315 invoked from network); 23 Aug 1999 17:15:12 -0000 Received: from ppp-220.tnt02.hbg.nikoma.de (HELO localhost) (212.122.138.220) by thrir.virtuell.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 1999 17:15:12 -0000 From: "Ol.i Th.uns" To: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 19:18:30 +0200 Reply-To: "Ol.i Th.uns" X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Professional (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.950) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Win32-Client for Secure Filetransfer (encrypted connection) Message-Id: <19990823172246.CE03A14BE3@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! I'm looking for a free secure 'file-transfer' client for win32. I want to login as root and upload files, but I don't want to send my root password (and the files) over a unsecured channel. I tried to work with SSHd, TeraTerm and tunnled FTP connection, but this didn't work. Oliver To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 23 10:43:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.interact.se (smtp.interact.se [193.15.98.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D46814EC7 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:43:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from je@interact.se) Received: from aju4j (install3.interact.se [193.15.98.52]) by smtp.interact.se (InterACT Mailer) with SMTP id TAA27309; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 19:43:21 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990823194159.006d1ae8@smtp1.interact.se> X-Sender: mailman@smtp1.interact.se X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 Demo (32) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 19:42:00 +0200 To: "Ol.i Th.uns" , "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" From: Jonas Eriksson Subject: Re: Win32-Client for Secure Filetransfer (encrypted connection) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 19:18 1999-08-23 +0200, Ol.i Th.uns wrote: >Hi! > >I'm looking for a free secure 'file-transfer' client for win32. I want >to login as root and upload files, but I don't want to send my root >password (and the files) over a unsecured channel. > >I tried to work with SSHd, TeraTerm and tunnled FTP connection, but >this didn't work. You can use port-forwarding in SecureCRT, and connect to localhost and get forwarded to remote-host:21 There is some www pages out there explaining this more (search). -- Jonas Eriksson / InterACT Sweden To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 23 11: 1:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proteus.eclipse.net.uk (proteus.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B46157C7 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:01:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by proteus.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DAF49B09; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 19:01:18 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37C18CF8.5ED6BCF4@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 19:03:36 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonas Eriksson Cc: "Ol.i Th.uns" , "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Win32-Client for Secure Filetransfer (encrypted connection) References: <3.0.32.19990823194159.006d1ae8@smtp1.interact.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > You can use port-forwarding in SecureCRT, and connect to localhost > and get forwarded to remote-host:21 You can also do port-forwarding in the free mindterm Java applet, which you can find by searching freshmeat. (A very nice little program!) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 23 11:38:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from thrir.virtuell.com (www.virtuell.com [212.6.128.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5575514D15 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:38:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oliver.thuns@gmx.de) Received: (qmail 1516 invoked from network); 23 Aug 1999 18:29:37 -0000 Received: from ppp-95.tnt03.hbg.nikoma.de (HELO localhost) (212.122.136.95) by thrir.virtuell.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 1999 18:29:37 -0000 From: "Ol.i Th.uns" To: "Stuart Henderson" Cc: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:36:40 +0200 Reply-To: "Ol.i Th.uns" X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Professional (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.950) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Win32-Client for Secure Filetransfer (encrypted connection) Message-Id: <19990823183835.5575514D15@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 23 Aug 1999 19:03:36 +0100, Stuart Henderson wrote: >> You can use port-forwarding in SecureCRT, and connect to localhost >> and get forwarded to remote-host:21 > >You can also do port-forwarding in the free mindterm Java applet, >which you can find by searching freshmeat. (A very nice little program!) MindTerm is cool. I have to get the newest Version. But the FTP port-forwarding didn't work for me. Maybe I'm too stupid. BTW, is it possible with port-forwarding to use services, which listen to localhost only? Oliver To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 23 13:23:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from kerouac.deepwell.com (deepwell.com [209.63.174.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2A2581501B for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:23:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@deepwell.com) Received: (qmail 2891 invoked from network); 23 Aug 1999 21:05:34 -0000 Received: from proxy.dcomm.net (HELO terry) (209.63.175.10) by deepwell.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 1999 21:05:34 -0000 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990823131219.02041990@mail1.dcomm.net> X-Sender: freebsd@mail.deepwell.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:14:22 -0700 To: isp@freebsd.org From: Deepwell Internet Subject: mailing lists Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I get some good information from this mailing list and was wondering if any of you could point me toward other mailing lists that you find useful. I'm admining an ISP using a combination of FreeBSD and NT servers (No, I don't like them either) Thanks -Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 23 14:26:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from unix.megared.net.mx (megared.net.mx [207.249.162.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F5AD14D6B for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 14:26:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ales@megared.net.mx) Received: from ales (pix.megared.net.mx [207.249.162.253]) by unix.megared.net.mx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA81915; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:25:30 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ales@megared.net.mx) Message-ID: <00db01beedad$f1605520$d4630a0a@megared.net.mx> From: "Alejandro Ramirez" To: , "Deepwell Internet" References: <4.2.0.58.19990823131219.02041990@mail1.dcomm.net> Subject: RE: mailing lists Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:24:53 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Try this link: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html#mailing-list the best one is questions. Ales ----- Original Message ----- From: Deepwell Internet To: Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 3:14 PM Subject: mailing lists > Hello, > I get some good information from this mailing list and was wondering if > any of you could point me toward other mailing lists that you find > useful. I'm admining an ISP using a combination of FreeBSD and NT servers > (No, I don't like them either) > > Thanks > -Terry > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 23 16: 0:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from richard2.pil.net (richard2.pil.net [207.8.164.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C975E1547E for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:00:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from up@pil.net) Received: (qmail 17160 invoked by uid 1825); 23 Aug 1999 23:00:01 -0000 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 19:00:01 -0400 (EDT) From: X-Sender: up@richard2.pil.net To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: processes not dying Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I just did a 'ps ax' and saw that the processes on my recent 3.2 build aren't dying...there's almost 100 processes running, including old traceroutes, mores (lots of them), locates, mans ,etc. Any idea what would cause this? My background is mostly Solaris (a little Linux, too), but I assume a 'ps ax' is pretty much the same as a SVR4 'ps -A' AFAICT, all of the errant processes are stopped (T flag) TIA, James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor up@3.am http://3.am ========================================================================= ISPF 3 - The Forum for ISPs by ISPs(tm) || Nov 15-17, 1999, New Orleans 3 days of clues, news, and views from the industry's best and brightest. Visit for information and registration. ========================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 23 16: 3: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from awfulhak.org (dynamic-60.max1-du-ws.dialnetwork.pavilion.co.uk [212.74.8.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B24F314FF0 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:03:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.8]) by awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA02933; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 23:33:38 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@lan.awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost.lan.Awfulhak.org [127.0.0.1]) by keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA57183; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 23:36:52 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199908232236.XAA57183@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Timothy Sanker Cc: Brian Somers , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: No available tunnel device In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 23 Aug 1999 08:24:17 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 23:36:52 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Brian, > > I have even chmod 666 /dev/tun* , same error msg. Even added user > ppp to the network,dialer groups. > > crw-rw-rw- 1 uucp dialer 52, 0 Aug 19 06:21 /dev/tun0 > crw-rw-rw- 1 uucp dialer 52, 1 Aug 10 17:54 /dev/tun1 > > Somehow I don't think the problem is in the permisions. I have > tunneling available in my kernel as well. Any other ideas? What does ``ifconfig -l'' say ? It should tell you how many tun devices you really have. [.....] > Tim Sanker > Nontoxic Network System Admin > god@nontoxic.net > admin@winblowz.com -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 23 20:12:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from velvet.sensation.net.au (tunnel0-velvet-brunswick.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3BC915278 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:12:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) by velvet.sensation.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA21392 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:12:06 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) X-Authentication-Warning: velvet.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:12:04 +1000 (EST) From: Rowan Crowe To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Win32-Client for Secure Filetransfer (encrypted connection) In-Reply-To: <19990823172246.CE03A14BE3@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, Ol.i Th.uns wrote: > I'm looking for a free secure 'file-transfer' client for win32. I want > to login as root and upload files, but I don't want to send my root > password (and the files) over a unsecured channel. You allow root to log in via FTP? Why not use a normal account then manually mv the files from a su'd account? (Of course there is still the problem of clear text root passwords being captured in your telnet when you su... or do you log in as root via telnet too?? ;-) ) Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ Sensation Internet Services http://www.sensation.net.au/ Melbourne, Australia Phone: +61-3-9388-9260 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 23 22:59:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sentry.granch.ru (sentry.granch.ru [212.20.5.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D56A114E23 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 22:59:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shelton@sentry.granch.ru) Received: from localhost (localhost.granch.ru [127.0.0.1]) by sentry.granch.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA02788 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:59:25 +0700 (NOVST) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:59:25 +0700 (NOVST) From: "Rashid N. Achilov" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Win32 SSH2 client? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anybody known Win32 client, which support ssh2? TeraTerm and stelnet is good, but support only ssh1. Shs2 has sftp2, secure tool for file transfer. It is more powerful and reilable, rather scp in ssh1. Also problem with connect from Unix to Windoze (ssh2 over ssh1 at Unix, ssh1 at Win - connect, ssh2 only at Unix, ssh1 at Win - NOT connect) disappear. With Best Regards. Rashid N. Achilov (RNA1-RIPE), Cert. ID: 28514, Granch Ltd. lead engineer e-mail: achilov@granch.ru, tel (383-2) 24-2363 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 23 23:29:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gilliam.users.flyingcroc.net (gilliam.users.flyingcroc.net [207.246.128.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88CDE158F8 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 23:29:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ross@gilliam.users.flyingcroc.net) Received: (from ross@localhost) by gilliam.users.flyingcroc.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA04561; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 23:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:10:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199908240628.XAA04561@gilliam.users.flyingcroc.net> To: Rowan Crowe Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Minor prob with user level ppp - multilink From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Hi all, > > Still having a slight problem with multilink under userland PPP... if one > of the modems goes down momentarily, no packets get through (even though > the other modem is still up). Is this normal? I would have thought that a > link dropping should be no sweat, just revert to the remaining links... If the link is closed cleanly, there should be no interrupt in the data stream. If a link is lost, the data queued for that link (at most one packet in user-ppp) will be dropped as soon as ppp realises that the link is dead. With correct carrier, this is immediate, but the gap in the data stream will cause difficulties if 1. The peer doesn't realise that the link is down (carrier detection problems). It ends up waiting for the missing data. 2. You're using compression. Here, both sides have to resync their dictionaries. This can take some time. Apart from that, the missing data is just ``missing data'' and the above layers will deal with it as they see fit. If you're using user-ppp on both ends, create a diagnostic socket and use ``show mp'' to see when ppp is waiting for unreceived information. > Cheers. > > > -- > Rowan Crowe http://www.rowan.sensation.net.au/ > Sensation Internet Services http://www.sensation.net.au/ > Melbourne, Australia Phone: +61-3-9388-9260 -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 23 23:29:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gilliam.users.flyingcroc.net (gilliam.users.flyingcroc.net [207.246.128.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D47CF1586D for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 23:28:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ross@gilliam.users.flyingcroc.net) Received: (from ross@localhost) by gilliam.users.flyingcroc.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA04687; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 23:28:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:45:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199908240628.XAA04687@gilliam.users.flyingcroc.net> From: Mike Harshbarger To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pwd_mkdb and system processes Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wow! What a change... 12K accounts and the pwd_mkdb run time dropped from 140 seconds down to 16 seconds. 6 Meg cache seemed optimal for me. Also, I've always been disappointed at the speed of the 'pw' command... especially with all the 'pw usermod's I get to do daily. It seems like it took 5 minutes. 'pw' seems to have sped up similarly with this change. On a related note, is there any chance in the future of the 'pw' command supporting a command line option like pwd_mkdb's '-u' so it doesn't have to reconstruct entire password databases? ___ ___ ___ | __/ __|_ _| Mike Harshbarger, First Step Internet | _|\__ \| | System & Network Administrator |_| |___/___| (208) 882-8869 / 1-888-676-6377 On Fri, 13 Aug 1999 lambert@cswnet.com wrote: > That did it. It went from 4:40 seconds to 20 seconds. I just gave it a > cache size of 10 MB on the command line args. I could probably tune it > down from there but I'm not into swap on this box anyway so it isn't > hurting me and as my userbase grows it will handle the load. > > Thanks, > > In , on > 08/13/99 > at 12:47 PM, Steve Hovey said: > > >Or just increase the cache size it uses to it gets done quicker > > >On Fri, 13 Aug 1999, Joe Nall wrote: > > >> lambert@cswnet.com wrote: > >> > > >> > I've been trying to track down a problem on my e-mail server where it > >> > stops processing smtp and pop processes for 5 minutes at a time. > >> > > >> > # wc -l /etc/passwd > >> > 14945 /etc/passwd > >> > > >> > We rebuild this file once per hour to add or remove customers. > >> > > >> > I finally caught it with a top session running at the time. > >> > > >> > Inetd was accepting new connections and starting popper but people can't > >> > authenticate. > >> > Sendmail accepts new connections but they stall until pwd_mkdb goes away. > >> > When I try to run a command from the command line, it doesn't execute > >> > until pwd_mkdb gets done. > >> > The CPU is 97% idle during this time. > >> > > >> > Does all file access in the system stop while pwd_mkdb runs? > >> No but all password lookups do. Both of theses commands rely on the > >> file you are rebuilding and the files involved are locked during the > >> process. You might try pwd_mkdp -d /tmp <> followed by a mv of the > >> relevant files into /etc or try pwd_mkdb -u at the time the > >> passwd file gets modified and avoid the overhead of the total rebuild. > >> YMMV, I haven't used the -d option. > >> Joe > >> > >> > >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > >> > > > > -- > Scott Lambert > lambert@cswnet.com > Systems and Security Administrator > CSW Net, Inc. > ================================================================ > Written: Friday, August 13, 1999 - 12:40 PM > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 24 0:43:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hume.evermore.com.au (hume.evrmore.com.au [203.37.24.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D647514CFF; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 00:43:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from keith.hutchison@canberra.evermore.com.au) Received: from kj ([192.168.0.17]) by hume.evermore.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA02051; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:36:06 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from keith.hutchison@canberra.evermore.com.au) Message-ID: <199908241734210370.058927E8@192.168.0.254> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.00.00.13 (3) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:34:21 +1000 Reply-To: keith.hutchison@canberra.evermore.com.au From: "Keith Hutchison" To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: greg@safetyweb.com.au, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Using a second FreeBSD box to piggy back through a first FreeBSD box to see the internet Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====_93548006141=_" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --=====_93548006141=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, We are looking for a method to enable a second network to talk through our= first network to our isp. The first network works fine. We have been able to get the two unix boxes= to talk to each other and the second unix box can see the internet. We are= just having trouble with the second network talking. Gut feel is a routing problem, can anyone send examples of how they did it= and what programs they used. We are using ppp -alias -auto. Do we need to= use natd instead of ppp -alias? Keith Hutchison --=====_93548006141=_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Hi,
 
We are looking for a method to enable a second network to talk through our first network to our isp.
 
The first network works fine. We have been able to get the two unix boxes to talk to each other and the second unix box can see the internet. We are just having trouble with the second network talking.
 
Gut feel is a routing problem, can anyone send examples of how they did it and what programs they used. We are using ppp -alias -auto. Do we need to use natd instead of ppp -alias?
 
Keith Hutchison
--=====_93548006141=_-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 24 3:17: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proteus.eclipse.net.uk (proteus.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BC1D14CE1 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 03:16:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by proteus.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1460C9B2C; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:16:58 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37C271A4.A3792167@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:19:16 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Rashid N. Achilov" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Win32 SSH2 client? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Anybody known Win32 client, which support ssh2? TeraTerm and > stelnet is good, but support only ssh1. I think I've seen a cygwin port of ssh - I don't know if it was v1 or v2, but that would be a good place to start looking. Stuart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 24 3:47:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from terror.hungry.com (terror.hungry.com [199.181.107.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9167C14D57 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 03:47:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fn@hungry.com) Received: (qmail 20794 invoked from network); 24 Aug 1999 10:47:50 -0000 Received: from siren.hungry.com (undead@199.181.107.129) by terror.hungry.com with SMTP; 24 Aug 1999 10:47:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 20330 invoked by uid 507); 24 Aug 1999 10:48:32 -0000 From: Faried Nawaz To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Win32 SSH2 client? Reply-To: Faried Nawaz References: Date: 24 Aug 1999 03:48:31 -0700 In-Reply-To: shelton@sentry.granch.ru's message of "23 Aug 1999 22:59:44 -0700" Message-ID: Lines: 6 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org shelton@sentry.granch.ru (Rashid N. Achilov) writes: Anybody known Win32 client, which support ssh2? Newer versions of SecureCRT support ssh2. Support for it might be beta, though. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 24 6:56: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from b-ainc.com (cs9360-102.austin.rr.com [24.93.60.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CF9F91501C for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 06:55:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jbender@b-ainc.com) Received: (qmail 9985 invoked from network); 24 Aug 1999 13:55:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO jbender) (10.1.1.8) by 10.1.1.9 with SMTP; 24 Aug 1999 13:55:56 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990824085642.009dba90@b-ainc.com> X-Sender: jbender@b-ainc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:56:42 -0500 To: "Rashid N. Achilov" From: Jeremy Bender Subject: Re: Win32 SSH2 client? Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Datafellows makes a product called F-Secure SSH Tunnel and Terminal client that works with ssh2. This is a commercial product that they charge $99 US for, but there is a 30 day demo available for download on their site (www.datafellows.com). This software comes with the scp2 and sftp2 programs to do secure file transfer. I have tried the demo here and can say it works very well, no major problems that I have seen (besides the price tag) Hope it helps, Jeremy Bender jbender@b-ainc.com At 12:59 PM 8/24/99 +0700, you wrote: >Anybody known Win32 client, which support ssh2? TeraTerm and stelnet is >good, but support only ssh1. Shs2 has sftp2, secure tool for file >transfer. It is more powerful and reilable, rather scp in ssh1. Also >problem with connect from Unix to Windoze (ssh2 over ssh1 at Unix, ssh1 at >Win - connect, ssh2 only at Unix, ssh1 at Win - NOT connect) disappear. > > With Best Regards. > Rashid N. Achilov (RNA1-RIPE), Cert. ID: 28514, Granch Ltd. lead engineer > e-mail: achilov@granch.ru, tel (383-2) 24-2363 > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 24 10:15:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from uni-sb.de (uni-sb.de [134.96.252.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F9515D4B for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 10:11:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netchild@Vodix.CS.Uni-SB.de) Received: from work.net.local (maxtnt-101.telip.uni-sb.de [134.96.70.228]) by uni-sb.de (8.9.3/1999070600) with ESMTP id RAA07971; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:44:02 +0200 (CEST) X-Authentication-Warning: uni-sb.de: Host maxtnt-101.telip.uni-sb.de [134.96.70.228] claimed to be work.net.local Received: from Vodix.CS.Uni-SB.de (localhost.net.local [127.0.0.1]) by work.net.local (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA64084; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:38:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from netchild@Vodix.CS.Uni-SB.de) Message-Id: <199908241438.QAA64084@work.net.local> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:38:05 +0200 (CEST) From: A.Leidinger@WJPServer.CS.Uni-SB.de Subject: Re: Win32-Client for Secure Filetransfer (encrypted connection) To: "Ol.i Th.uns" Cc: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" In-Reply-To: <19990823172246.CE03A14BE3@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 23 Aug, Ol.i Th.uns wrote: > I'm looking for a free secure 'file-transfer' client for win32. I want > I tried to work with SSHd, TeraTerm and tunnled FTP connection, but > this didn't work. Just to be on the save side: Are you shure, the WIN-FTP-Client you used is able to do passive-ftp (I was told, some clients can't do it)? And do you have activated the passive-mode while testing? Bye, Alexander. -- Me? A skeptic? Can you prove it? http://netchild.home.pages.de A.Leidinger+Home @ WJPServer.CS.Uni-SB.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 24 13:13:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dominik.saargate.de (dominik.saargate.de [212.88.132.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6861914BF5 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:13:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from domi@saargate.de) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dominik.saargate.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA02713 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:37:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from domi@saargate.de) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:37:56 +0200 (CEST) From: Dominik Brettnacher To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: IP Accounting Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I want to account the traffic between two of our systems by using a third box that is connected to the same ethernet that the other two are using. How do I set up this? -- Dominik - http://www.saargate.de/~domi/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 24 13:36:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proteus.eclipse.net.uk (proteus.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A38515125 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:36:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by proteus.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EAAE9B20; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:36:50 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37C302EC.45A675B8@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:39:08 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dominik Brettnacher Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IP Accounting References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I want to account the traffic between two of our systems by using a > third box that is connected to the same ethernet that the other two > are using. How do I set up this? One way is to route _through_ the accounting box, then you can simply do, ipfw a 100 pass ip from %%% to ### ipfw a 200 pass ip from ### to %%% and you can do "ipfw s" to show how many bytes and packets passed through. If this is for stats for your own boxes rather than billing, you could just add ipfw rules on the boxes themselves. I haven't investigated this in depth yet but it is likely that software like /usr/ports/net/trafshow might help as well, though that would require you to put the network card in promiscuous mode. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 24 13:53: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from oak.iea-software.com (oak.iea-software.com [207.53.165.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E2011522D for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:52:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shawn@bsdguy.com) Received: from sycamore (unverified [207.53.165.36]) by oak.iea-software.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.4.2) with SMTP id ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:39:29 -0700 Message-ID: <036301beee72$9ddd48c0$24a535cf@ieasoftware.com> From: "Shawn Workman" To: "Stuart Henderson" , "Dominik Brettnacher" Cc: References: <37C302EC.45A675B8@eclipse.net.uk> Subject: Re: IP Accounting Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:52:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I always see that my NIC is in promiscuous mode, is that a bad thing? how do I change it if it is? ----- Original Message ----- From: Stuart Henderson To: Dominik Brettnacher Cc: Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 1:39 PM Subject: Re: IP Accounting > > I want to account the traffic between two of our systems by using a > > third box that is connected to the same ethernet that the other two > > are using. How do I set up this? > > One way is to route _through_ the accounting box, then you > can simply do, > > ipfw a 100 pass ip from %%% to ### > ipfw a 200 pass ip from ### to %%% > > and you can do "ipfw s" to show how many bytes and packets > passed through. If this is for stats for your own boxes rather > than billing, you could just add ipfw rules on the boxes > themselves. > > I haven't investigated this in depth yet but it is likely that > software like /usr/ports/net/trafshow might help as well, though > that would require you to put the network card in promiscuous > mode. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 24 15:34:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from snake.supranet.net (snake.supranet.net [205.164.160.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41F0C14DE4 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 15:34:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@arnie.jfive.com) Received: from snake.supranet.net (snake.supranet.net [205.164.160.19]) by snake.supranet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA01322 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:35:52 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from john@arnie.jfive.com) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:35:52 -0500 (CDT) From: John Heyer X-Sender: john@snake.supranet.net To: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Internal Servers / External IP Addresses (NAT) In-Reply-To: <37C18CF8.5ED6BCF4@eclipse.net.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I recently installed FreeBSD 3.2 on a machine running NAT and IPFW to act as a proxy server. In addition to internet access for the internal users via NAT, the company has also asked to put their mail and web servers on the internal network for security reasons, yet still have them accessable from the outside. I moved the servers internally and had the Proxy server take the old IP address, then re-drirected the necessary ports with NAT's -redirect_port parameter so that for example telnetting to port 25 of the proxy server's alias IP address gets a connection to the internal mail server. From the outside, this works great. The problem is it doesn't work from internal address. When they go to the outside (routable) alias being used by the proxy server, they don't get re-directed for some reason. I know the best solution might be to fool the clients into going directly to the internal address by DNS or hosts files, but unfortunately that would mean re-configuring 50 or so client machines. So I'm trying to do something at the server level - so far route statements and forwarding via ipfw, but with no luck. Any options to NAT I might be missing in order for the re-direction to work from the internal side? -- "Your illogical approach ... does have its advantages." -- Spock, after being Checkmated by Kirk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 24 16: 7:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from noc.santacruz.org (noc.santacruz.org [209.133.111.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1802B15AB9 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:07:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from klynn@santacruz.org) Received: by noc.santacruz.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 3AF94CD26; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:10:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by noc.santacruz.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C84CD25; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:10:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:10:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin Lynn To: Dominik Brettnacher Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IP Accounting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If you don't want the overhead of routing through another system I'd suggest that you have a look at Network Flight Recorder (NFR) from www.nfr.com. They have a trial version to be used non-commercially (read their text on what's commercial.. it'll surprise you) and their commercial version which is actually faster due to some changes to the way they sniff packets (they make bpf a slurping speed daemon).. The noncommercial version has been tested and shown to run up to 45Mbit by anzen consulting (i think that's them) and the commercial version up to 80Mbit (if I remember right).. Kevin On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Dominik Brettnacher wrote: > I want to account the traffic between two of our systems by using a third > box that is connected to the same ethernet that the other two are using. > How do I set up this? > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 24 16:27:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net (bsdie.rwsystems.net [209.197.223.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 632F11513A for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:27:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwyatt@bsdie.rwsystems.net) Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net([209.197.223.2]) (2119 bytes) by bsdie.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:19:55 -0500 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.106 1999-Mar-31 #1 built 1999-Aug-7) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:19:34 -0500 (CDT) From: James Wyatt To: Shawn Workman Cc: Stuart Henderson , Dominik Brettnacher , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: What is promiscuous mode (was Re: IP Accounting) In-Reply-To: <036301beee72$9ddd48c0$24a535cf@ieasoftware.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sounds like it's time for a quick security check on *that* host... 8{) Most machines don't use it (sucks CPU, sets-off anti-sniff alarms, etc...) If it is, you may have a legitimate application using it (trafshow, DHCP server, arpwatch, etc...) or someone *could* be running a sniffer on that machine that you don't know about. Could you quote the message you saw this in so we can help? The 'Dark Side' of an ethernet card running in 'promiscuous mode' is that it sends *all* (not just it's) packets to your kernel, allowing traffic on the network to be 'tapped' to record userids, passwords, connect-ports, etc... for later use. You never even know you've leaked until they log-in. It's 'Light Side' allows it to receive DHCP client requests, improving your network administration, or to generate statistics on network traffic flow for reporting. You don't turn it on or off. It changes when you start or stop an application that uses a BPF device. Do a 'ps auxw' and check-off all the processes you know until you find the process that is doing it. If you have been broken-into, the process might not show up if they replaced your 'ps'. There is no truth that you can catch a virus for using a promiscuous ethernet card. 8{) - Jy@ On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Shawn Workman wrote: > I always see that my NIC is in promiscuous mode, is that a bad thing? > > how do I change it if it is? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 24 16:30:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com (pau-amma.whistle.com [207.76.205.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8F7315476 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:29:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id QAA04200 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:29:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:29:46 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <199908242329.QAA04200@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: US telco CO locations via Mapquest Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Happened to go to Mapquest's Web site to generate a map for a colleague. Saw that they now advertise that they show maps for US area code/prefix combinations. Tried it; for each case that I tried (a small handful) where I happened to know the CO location, the red star showed up at that location. Dunno that the relationship is intended, but thought that it might be of (significant) interest to US-based folks on the list. Cheers, david -- David Wolfskill dhw@whistle.com UNIX System Administrator voice: (650) 577-7158 pager: (888) 347-0197 FAX: (650) 372-5915 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 24 19: 7:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite.sentex.ca [199.212.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0D0B15918 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:07:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from ospf-mdt.sentex.net (ospf-mdt.sentex.net [205.211.164.81]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA02798; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 22:06:54 -0400 (EDT) From: mike@sentex.net (Mike Tancsa) To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Cc: achilov@granch.ru Subject: Re: Win32 SSH2 client? Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 02:19:26 GMT Message-ID: <37c350de.686303632@mail.sentex.net> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >At 12:59 PM 8/24/99 +0700, you wrote: >>Anybody known Win32 client, which support ssh2? TeraTerm and stelnet is >>good, but support only ssh1. Shs2 has sftp2, secure tool for file >>transfer. It is more powerful and reilable, rather scp in ssh1. Also >>problem with connect from Unix to Windoze (ssh2 over ssh1 at Unix, ssh1 at >>Win - connect, ssh2 only at Unix, ssh1 at Win - NOT connect) disappear. >> >> With Best Regards. >> Rashid N. Achilov (RNA1-RIPE), Cert. ID: 28514, Granch Ltd. lead engineer >> e-mail: achilov@granch.ru, tel (383-2) 24-2363 The new SCRT from vandyke supports ssh2. I dont know about exporting issues however. www.vandyke.com ---Mike Mike Tancsa (mdtancsa@sentex.net) Sentex Communications Corp, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada "Who is this 'BSD', and why should we free him?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 24 20: 3:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from inet.chip-web.com (c1003518-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [24.1.82.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B285C152FA for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:03:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ludwigp@bigfoot.com) Received: (qmail 20285 invoked from network); 25 Aug 1999 03:02:32 -0000 Received: from speedy.chip-web.com (HELO bigfoot.com) (172.16.1.1) by inet.chip-web.com with SMTP; 25 Aug 1999 03:02:32 -0000 Message-ID: <37C35C71.937E609A@bigfoot.com> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:01:05 -0700 From: Ludwig Pummer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Heyer Cc: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Internal Servers / External IP Addresses (NAT) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Heyer wrote: > > I recently installed FreeBSD 3.2 on a machine running NAT and IPFW to act > as a proxy server. In addition to internet access for the internal users > via NAT, the company has also asked to put their mail and web servers on > the internal network for security reasons, yet still have them accessable > from the outside. I moved the servers internally and had the Proxy server > take the old IP address, then re-drirected the necessary ports with NAT's > -redirect_port parameter so that for example telnetting to port 25 of the > proxy server's alias IP address gets a connection to the internal mail > server. > > From the outside, this works great. The problem is it doesn't work from > internal address. When they go to the outside (routable) alias being used > by the proxy server, they don't get re-directed for some reason. > > I know the best solution might be to fool the clients into going directly > to the internal address by DNS or hosts files, but unfortunately that > would mean re-configuring 50 or so client machines. So I'm trying to do > something at the server level - so far route statements and forwarding via > ipfw, but with no luck. Any options to NAT I might be missing in order > for the re-direction to work from the internal side? I believe the issue here is which ipfw rules you are using to get the packets sent to NAT. If you are using the standard rules packaged with FreeBSD, then it's not enough. The standard rule requires that the packets go through the natd_interface set by your rc.conf. In your case, the packets are not going through that interface because the FreeBSD natd gateway recognizes that those 'outside' addresses are its own and doesn't bother passing them on to another interface. All you should need to do is add an ipfw line to your rc.firewall saying to "divert natd all from ${inet}:${imask} to ${old_outside_ip} 25" for the SMTP server for example. Note that I haven't actually tried this, but I do remember bringing this up with the natd/natd manpage maintainers a few weeks/months ago and we had a discussion about this kind of situation. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 25 0:13:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (storm.freebsd.org.uk [194.242.128.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D483165F2 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 00:12:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by storm.FreeBSD.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA30326; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 08:11:50 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost.lan.Awfulhak.org [127.0.0.1]) by keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA26775; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 08:15:00 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199908250715.IAA26775@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Tim Sanker Cc: Brian Somers , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: No available tunnel device In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:19:49 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 08:14:59 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Brian, > > It showes tun0 - tun9 just like I have in the kernel. Does it make a difference if you # cd /dev # sh ./MAKEDEV tun10 The only other thing I can think of is to step through the bundle_Create() function with gdb to find out what the problem is :-/ > On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, Brian Somers wrote: > > > > Brian, > > > > > > I have even chmod 666 /dev/tun* , same error msg. Even added user > > > ppp to the network,dialer groups. > > > > > > crw-rw-rw- 1 uucp dialer 52, 0 Aug 19 06:21 /dev/tun0 > > > crw-rw-rw- 1 uucp dialer 52, 1 Aug 10 17:54 /dev/tun1 > > > > > > Somehow I don't think the problem is in the permisions. I have > > > tunneling available in my kernel as well. Any other ideas? > > > > What does ``ifconfig -l'' say ? It should tell you how many tun > > devices you really have. > > > > [.....] > > > Tim Sanker > > > Nontoxic Network System Admin > > > god@nontoxic.net > > > admin@winblowz.com -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 25 0:36:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from members.activetech.net (members.activetech.net [209.81.201.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB4515C86 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 00:35:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@activetech.net) Received: from wybitny (wybitny.activetech.net [209.81.201.10]) by members.activetech.net (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA20762 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 02:42:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001d01beeecb$d67c6180$0ac951d1@activetech.net> From: "Kris Kedzierski" To: "FreeBSD-ISP List" Subject: OFF TOPIC: HP Routers Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 02:31:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Did anyone ever use HP AdanceStack Routers Model 430 and 230? I got a guy who wants to sell a few cheap, he has no idea what they are, and neither do I , cause HP's website has no info on those except software updates. If anyone worked with these and knows the specs , please let me know. Thanx Kris Kedzierski Activetech kris@activetech.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 25 1: 5: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from verdi.nethelp.no (verdi.nethelp.no [158.36.41.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 66E601586D for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 01:04:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sthaug@nethelp.no) Received: (qmail 44292 invoked by uid 1001); 25 Aug 1999 08:04:51 +0000 (GMT) To: kris@activetech.net Cc: FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC: HP Routers From: sthaug@nethelp.no In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 25 Aug 1999 02:31:24 -0500" References: <001d01beeecb$d67c6180$0ac951d1@activetech.net> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05+ on Emacs 19.34.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:04:51 +0200 Message-ID: <44290.935568291@verdi.nethelp.no> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Did anyone ever use HP AdanceStack Routers Model 430 and 230? > I got a guy who wants to sell a few cheap, he has no idea what they are, and > neither do I , cause HP's website has no info on those except software > updates. > If anyone worked with these and knows the specs , please let me know. We have a bunch of the 440 model, aka HP-ER, aka Advancestack 27285A. This has 2xsync serial (up to E1, 2 Mbps) and 2x10base5 (AUI) Ethernet. Fairly easy menu-driven config, based on the Bay/Wellfleet 5.7x series of software. Uses a Motorola 68030 processor. We only use them at the edge of the network, where we can avoid dynamic routing (static routes injected in into OSPF at the nearest Cisco router). We *tried* to use these routers with OSPF, but it never worked well enough that we could depend on it. I don't remember what the 430 (SR) and 230 (PR) are. I believe one of them may be a 1xsync serial/1xEthernet router. You might be able to find something at the HP web site if you search for 27285A - I know I found a wiring diagram for the console cable fairly recently. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 25 3:10:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proteus.eclipse.net.uk (proteus.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD87152EF for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 03:10:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by proteus.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABB6A9B38; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:10:21 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37C3C198.EEC64872@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:12:40 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Shawn Workman Cc: Dominik Brettnacher , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, Karl Pielorz Subject: Re: IP Accounting References: <37C302EC.45A675B8@eclipse.net.uk> <036301beee72$9ddd48c0$24a535cf@ieasoftware.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [combining replies to Karl Pielorz and Dominik Brettnacher] DB> I always see that my NIC is in promiscuous mode, is that a bad thing? Depends who put it there. IMHO you should reinstall the FreeBSD binaries from CD or a freebsd.org site on the net (not a local copy) to ensure you have clean copies of programs such as ps/top/netstat/ls/telnetd/... then check your system carefully for abnormalities, unknown users, and maybe innocuously named files containing sniffer logs. DB> how do I change it if it is? A program will have put it into promiscuous mode. If you're using kernel bridging I think that will do it, ditto tcpdump/trafshow/ngrep/nmap and many other programs, but they shouldn't leave it set after they have exited. KP> How do you know the card is in promiscuous mode? # ifconfig fxp0 fxp0: flags=8943 mtu 1500 ... # grep promisc /var/log/messages Aug 25 11:01:01 prometheus /kernel: fxp0: promiscuous mode enabled Aug 25 11:01:10 prometheus /kernel: fxp0: promiscuous mode enabled Unless permissions on /dev/bpf* allow anyone to access the device it will have been root or a setuid root program that enabled promiscuous mode. So you can check back to see who was logged in at the time from "who /var/log/wtmp" (assuming that nobody nasty has been tampering with the wtmp records). KP> Promiscuous mode means your network card will receive and process KP> every packet on the network cable your on, even those not destined KP> for your own machine / self. And yes this does imply it will be using extra cpu cycles to filter the traffic so that local daemons only hear traffic destined for the machine's MAC addresses. The added latency gives you a possible way of detecting promiscuous mode on a machine that you don't have access to - as used by L0pht's AntiSniff monitoring tool, more details on their site . Stuart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 25 3:56:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from volodya.prime.net.ua (volodya.prime.net.ua [195.64.229.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F0E14E52 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 03:56:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Received: from prime.net.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by volodya.prime.net.ua (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA20855 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:58:26 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Message-ID: <37C3CC4F.2E6ABBF4@prime.net.ua> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:58:24 +0300 From: "Andy V. Oleynik" Organization: M-Info X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en, ru, uk MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem with ICMP when aliasing enabled? References: <199908192006.VAA00538@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> <37BD1EE4.8538AEC6@prime.net.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes, alialing propagation on dialin profiles lead to impossibility to have ECHO replies from clients. After "alias enable no" in each dialin profile normal ICMP traffic have been restored. Well, in my question I wrote that I hesitated that aliasing did this things (icmp distortion). But Brian appeared to be right (as allways :) - alias *must* bee turn on where it is really need if U dont want to face oddy IP behavour %) Thank to all replied to question. Especially to Brian. Again :) "Andy V. Oleynik" wrote: > Here is another strangeness but I'm not sure that this > > is relevant to aliasing. Well, clients are serviced by > > user ppp on dialin side of server providing dynamic > > -- WBW Andy V. Oleynik (When U work in virtual office prime.net.ua's U have good chance to obtain system administrator virtual money ö%) +380442448363 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 25 16:20:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.plusline.de (mail.ffm.plusline.net [194.231.79.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 438A21539E for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:20:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rg@plusline.net) Received: from plusline.net (schafftauchnix.plusline.de [212.19.48.65]) by mail.plusline.de (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA14236 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 01:19:04 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <37C479E2.E23000C1@plusline.net> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 01:18:58 +0200 From: Richard Gresek Reply-To: rg@plusline.net Organization: Plus.line GmbH X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: how to send break in xterm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I want to use some terminal server via rtelnet to control consol ports of our Cisco routers. How can I send 'break' in xterm? I was playing with stty to achieve what I want, but did not succeed. Can someone give me some hint? Thanks in advance Richard Gresek -- ==================> Plus.line <======================= Plus.Line Systemhaus GmbH Tel.: +49 69 7589150 Mainzer Lstr. 224 Fax : +49 69 75891533 D-60327 Frankfurt http://www.plusline.de ==================> Plus.line <======================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 25 16:56:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from filer2.isc.rit.edu (filer2.isc.rit.edu [129.21.3.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D245E15AE3 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:56:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcptch@osfmail.isc.rit.edu) Received: from grace ("port 4257"@[129.21.3.102]) by osfmail.isc.rit.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #34621) with SMTP id <0FH100DMLOYR02@osfmail.isc.rit.edu> for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 19:52:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by grace (5.65v4.0/1.1.19.2/21Sep98-0910AM) id AA03023; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 19:52:39 -0400 Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 19:52:39 -0400 From: Jon Parise Subject: Re: how to send break in xterm In-reply-to: <37C479E2.E23000C1@plusline.net>; from rg@plusline.net on Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 01:18:58AM +0200 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mail-followup-to: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <19990825195238.B2461@osfmail.isc.rit.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.3i X-Operating-System: OSF1 V4.0 (alpha) References: <37C479E2.E23000C1@plusline.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 01:18:58AM +0200, Richard Gresek wrote: > I want to use some terminal server via rtelnet to > control consol ports of our Cisco routers. > > How can I send 'break' in xterm? I was playing with > stty to achieve what I want, but did not succeed. In a telnet session, you can hit Ctrl-] to enter command mode. You can then use 'send brk' to send a break. -- Jon Parise (parise@pobox.com) . Rochester Inst. of Technology http://www.pobox.com/~parise/ : Computer Science House Member To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 26 0:13:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from web127.yahoomail.com (web127.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 67BB214BEF for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 00:13:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from afeigin@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19990826071214.24716.rocketmail@web127.yahoomail.com> Received: from [193.134.254.75] by web127.yahoomail.com; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 00:12:14 PDT Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 00:12:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Adam Feigin Reply-To: awf@feigin.com Subject: Experiences with ETI 5025 / PCISYNC Boards To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If anybody is using these cards (preferably with multiple T1/E1 ports in use) in an ISP environment, I'd be very interested in hearing about your experiences with them, good, bad, or otherwise. Would also be interested in what configurations you are running with (CPU/MEM/number of ports, speed, etc) Thanks in advance. /AWF __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 26 0:44:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from atlas.usls.edu (linux1.usls.edu [202.47.133.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF43D151DA; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 00:43:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from francis@usls.edu) Received: by atlas.usls.edu (Postfix, from userid 500) id 2D742A4BE; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:08:38 +0800 (PHT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by atlas.usls.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id F39CF7D8C; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:08:38 +0800 (PHT) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:08:38 +0800 (PHT) From: "Francis A. Vidal" To: FreeBSD ISP Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Invalid partition table? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi folks, i created two FreeBSD slices (type fbsd) on my Seagate Barracuda 4LP (da0s1, da0s2) and made s1 active. everything went fine with the installation but when i rebooted the system, i get an "Invalid partition table" message. i tried a different approach: did the same (created two slices) and installed the FreeBSD boot manager -- still couldn't boot. i also created one slice then it booted but when i created s2, the problem went back again. what is wrong here? the reason why i want to create two fbsd slices on one hard drive is that i want to make use of the excess space on da0 for the vinum volume. NOTE: i'm installing FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE -- francis vidal university of st. la salle, bacolod city, philippines . . . . . . . PGP key available via e-mail / subject: get PGP key u s l s N E T tel. nos. (6334).435.2324 / 433.3526 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 26 0:52:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from atlas.usls.edu (linux1.usls.edu [202.47.133.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D921A15382; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 00:49:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from francis@usls.edu) Received: by atlas.usls.edu (Postfix, from userid 500) id 90CCBA4C3; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:28:58 +0800 (PHT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by atlas.usls.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0F27D8E; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:28:58 +0800 (PHT) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:28:58 +0800 (PHT) From: "Francis A. Vidal" To: FreeBSD ISP Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: apache13-php3 port Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, i'm trying to build the apache13-php3 port on a 3.2-release system. i already have imap-uw-4.5 and openssl-0.9.4 installed and i don't want the make process reinstall them again. how do i do that? -- francis vidal university of st. la salle, bacolod city, philippines . . . . . . . PGP key available via e-mail / subject: get PGP key u s l s N E T tel. nos. (6334).435.2324 / 433.3526 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 26 0:56:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rucus.ru.ac.za (rucus.ru.ac.za [146.231.29.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A280815382 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 00:56:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za) Received: (qmail 20768 invoked by uid 1003); 26 Aug 1999 07:56:06 -0000 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:56:06 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: "Francis A. Vidal" Cc: FreeBSD ISP , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: apache13-php3 port Message-ID: <19990826095606.A20495@rucus.ru.ac.za> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: ; from Francis A. Vidal on Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 08:28:58AM +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu 1999-08-26 (08:28), Francis A. Vidal wrote: > hi, > > i'm trying to build the apache13-php3 port on a 3.2-release system. i > already have imap-uw-4.5 and openssl-0.9.4 installed and i don't want the > make process reinstall them again. > > how do i do that? Have you tried to build it? It shouldn't remake existing packages. Good luck, Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@rucus.ru.ac.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 26 1:37:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from atlas.usls.edu (linux1.usls.edu [202.47.133.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CBD714C0A; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 01:34:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from francis@usls.edu) Received: by atlas.usls.edu (Postfix, from userid 500) id 224E8A4D6; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:28:58 +0800 (PHT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by atlas.usls.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18B8E7D90; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:28:58 +0800 (PHT) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:28:58 +0800 (PHT) From: "Francis A. Vidal" To: FreeBSD ISP Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Invalid partition table? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org please ignore this message. i already solved the problem. On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Francis A. Vidal wrote: > hi folks, > > i created two FreeBSD slices (type fbsd) on my Seagate Barracuda 4LP > (da0s1, da0s2) and made s1 active. everything went fine with the > installation but when i rebooted the system, i get an "Invalid partition > table" message. > > i tried a different approach: did the same (created two slices) and > installed the FreeBSD boot manager -- still couldn't boot. i also created > one slice then it booted but when i created s2, the problem went back > again. > > what is wrong here? > > the reason why i want to create two fbsd slices on one hard drive is that > i want to make use of the excess space on da0 for the vinum volume. > > NOTE: i'm installing FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE > > -- > francis vidal university of st. la salle, bacolod city, philippines > . . . . . . . PGP key available via e-mail / subject: get PGP key > u s l s N E T tel. nos. (6334).435.2324 / 433.3526 > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 26 2:17: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from atlas.usls.edu (linux1.usls.edu [202.47.133.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 342F014E6D; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 02:16:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from francis@usls.edu) Received: by atlas.usls.edu (Postfix, from userid 500) id 2D742A4BE; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:08:38 +0800 (PHT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by atlas.usls.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id F39CF7D8C; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:08:38 +0800 (PHT) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:08:38 +0800 (PHT) From: "Francis A. Vidal" To: FreeBSD ISP Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Invalid partition table? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi folks, i created two FreeBSD slices (type fbsd) on my Seagate Barracuda 4LP (da0s1, da0s2) and made s1 active. everything went fine with the installation but when i rebooted the system, i get an "Invalid partition table" message. i tried a different approach: did the same (created two slices) and installed the FreeBSD boot manager -- still couldn't boot. i also created one slice then it booted but when i created s2, the problem went back again. what is wrong here? the reason why i want to create two fbsd slices on one hard drive is that i want to make use of the excess space on da0 for the vinum volume. NOTE: i'm installing FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE -- francis vidal university of st. la salle, bacolod city, philippines . . . . . . . PGP key available via e-mail / subject: get PGP key u s l s N E T tel. nos. (6334).435.2324 / 433.3526 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 26 6:50:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bingnet2.cc.binghamton.edu (bingnet2.cc.binghamton.edu [128.226.1.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13DA415AB4; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 06:50:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zzhang@cs.binghamton.edu) Received: from sol.cs.binghamton.edu (cs1-gw.cs.binghamton.edu [128.226.171.72]) by bingnet2.cc.binghamton.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA28736; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:47:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:34:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Zhihui Zhang To: "Francis A. Vidal" Cc: FreeBSD ISP , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Invalid partition table? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Francis A. Vidal wrote: > hi folks, > > i created two FreeBSD slices (type fbsd) on my Seagate Barracuda 4LP > (da0s1, da0s2) and made s1 active. everything went fine with the > installation but when i rebooted the system, i get an "Invalid partition > table" message. > Go to the FDISK menu of /stand/sysinstall and use S to set your slice bootable and then use W to update the FDISK. -Zhihui To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 26 13:19: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.SKINNYHIPPO.COM (mail.SKINNYHIPPO.COM [216.25.13.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23DAE14C18 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:19:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from panda@skinnyhippo.com) Received: from egg [202.188.111.43] by mail.SKINNYHIPPO.COM (SMTPD32-5.05) id A12F1AA50282; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:18:55 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990827045542.0094c9b0@mail.skinnyhippo.com> X-Sender: panda@mail.skinnyhippo.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 04:55:42 +0900 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: chas Subject: Memory leak ? Inact memory never gets freed. In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990826115729.009454d0@mail.skinnyhippo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The 'free' memory on our machine has just gone down steadily over the past 24 hours as the following (in chronological order) shows : Yesterday 04:00 Hrs ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I remember there was 470 MB free but don't have the 'top' output. 10:00 Hrs (moderate-high load) : ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ last pid: 36826; load averages: 0.15, 0.31, 0.33 131 processes: 1 running, 130 sleeping CPU states: 0.4% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.4% interrupt, 99.2% idle Mem: 28M Active, 218M Inact, 22M Wired, 20M Cache, 8348K Buf, 214M Free Swap: 700M Total, 700M Free 16:00 Hrs (peak load) : ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ last pid: 98274; load averages: 0.84, 0.76, 0.67 142 processes: 1 running, 135 sleeping, 6 zombie CPU states: 48.2% user, 0.0% nice, 15.6% system, 0.0% interrupt, 36.2% idle Mem: 31M Active, 307M Inact, 23M Wired, 20M Cache, 8345K Buf, 122M Free Swap: 700M Total, 700M Free 03:45 Hrs (low traffic) : ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ last pid: 79900; load averages: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00 up 0+23:03:45 03:44:41 40 processes: 1 running, 39 sleeping CPU states: 0.4% user, 0.0% nice, 0.8% system, 0.0% interrupt, 98.8% idle Mem: 19M Active, 431M Inact, 22M Wired, 13M Cache, 8346K Buf, 16M Free Swap: 700M Total, 700M Free It should have freed up memory since there's virtually zero load on the server right now. 04:00 Hrs (restart) : ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Expecting yet another heavy day tomorrow, I figured I'd better restart the machine to free up the memory again; having done that, memory is looking good again - 470 MB free once more. last pid: 380; load averages: 0.07, 0.04, 0.00 up 0+00:06:44 04:01:31 35 processes: 1 running, 34 sleeping CPU states: 0.4% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 99.6% idle Mem: 7540K Active, 7012K Inact, 17M Wired, 8339K Buf, 471M Free Swap: 700M Total, 700M Free The server is running apache and mysql; 1.5+ million hits/day (180,000 page views of which 100,000+ are dynamically generated using simple cgi scripts using python). If it is indeed a memory leak, how can I diagnose what it is due to ? and how can I cure it ? Thank you very much, chas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 26 13:37:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204E014DCB for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:37:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA24475; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:35:24 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:35:24 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: chas Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Memory leak ? Inact memory never gets freed. Message-ID: <19990826153524.I24968@futuresouth.com> References: <3.0.5.32.19990826115729.009454d0@mail.skinnyhippo.com> <3.0.5.32.19990827045542.0094c9b0@mail.skinnyhippo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990827045542.0094c9b0@mail.skinnyhippo.com>; from chas on Fri, Aug 27, 1999 at 04:55:42AM +0900 X-OS: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Aug 27, 1999 at 04:55:42AM +0900, a little birdie told me that chas remarked > The 'free' memory on our machine has just gone down steadily over > the past 24 hours as the following (in chronological order) shows : I do believe it's SUPPOSED to do that. Memory only gets moved from the Inactive hopper when it's needed, no point in Free'ing it really, is there? -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Unix Systems Administrator | fullermd@futuresouth.com Specializing in FreeBSD | http://www.over-yonder.net/ FutureSouth Communications | ISPHelp ISP Consulting "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is because I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 26 14: 2:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.SKINNYHIPPO.COM (mail.SKINNYHIPPO.COM [216.25.13.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8F714F24 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:02:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from panda@skinnyhippo.com) Received: from egg [202.188.111.43] by mail.SKINNYHIPPO.COM (SMTPD32-5.05) id AB3224520208; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:01:38 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990827053824.009d2320@mail.skinnyhippo.com> X-Sender: panda@mail.skinnyhippo.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 05:38:24 +0900 To: "Matthew D. Fuller" From: chas Subject: Re: Memory leak ? Inact memory never gets freed. Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990826153524.I24968@futuresouth.com> References: <3.0.5.32.19990827045542.0094c9b0@mail.skinnyhippo.com> <3.0.5.32.19990826115729.009454d0@mail.skinnyhippo.com> <3.0.5.32.19990827045542.0094c9b0@mail.skinnyhippo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ah, thanks for putting my mind at rest... I mistakenly thought that memory went from the 'inactive' state to 'free' before being used again. Sorry for the noise. chas >On Fri, Aug 27, 1999 at 04:55:42AM +0900, a little birdie told me >that chas remarked >> The 'free' memory on our machine has just gone down steadily over >> the past 24 hours as the following (in chronological order) shows : > >I do believe it's SUPPOSED to do that. >Memory only gets moved from the Inactive hopper when it's needed, no >point in Free'ing it really, is there? > > > > >-- >Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net >Unix Systems Administrator | fullermd@futuresouth.com >Specializing in FreeBSD | http://www.over-yonder.net/ >FutureSouth Communications | ISPHelp ISP Consulting > >"The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is because I > haven't figured out how to light the middle yet" > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 26 14:44:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from amber.eaznet.com (amber.eaznet.com [216.19.20.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E7EF14DB8 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:44:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eddie@eaznet.com) Received: from eaznet.com (admin.eaznet.com [216.19.20.16]) by amber.eaznet.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA21693 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:44:59 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <37C5B547.BA779B78@eaznet.com> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:44:40 -0700 From: Eddie - EAZNet Internet Services Reply-To: eddie@eaznet.com Organization: EAZNet Internet Services, Safford, AZ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD ISP Mailing List Subject: Cable Modem Service Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We are looking to make a deal with our local Cable company to provide cable-modem service. Is anyone on the list doing this? If so, I would like to discuss some things with you off-list. Thanks, Eddie Fry eddie@eaznet.com EAZNet Internet Services 220 West 7th Street Safford, AZ 85546 (520) 348-0292 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 26 15:40:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C83741534A; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:40:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Received: from dbsys (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA01835; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:35:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199908262235.SAA01835@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:29:32 -0400 To: isp@freebsd.org From: Dennis Subject: Default Window Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is there a way to make a web server (or any freebsd host for that matter) negotiate a window of a specific size? Bandwidth management works better with smaller windows...it would be interesting to be able to tum a server (perhaps dynamically) Dennis To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 26 18:50:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from inet.chip-web.com (c1003518-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [24.1.82.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7706C15C7A for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:50:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ludwigp@bigfoot.com) Received: (qmail 1119 invoked from network); 27 Aug 1999 01:50:29 -0000 Received: from furball.chip-web.com (HELO bigfoot.com) (172.16.1.29) by inet.chip-web.com with SMTP; 27 Aug 1999 01:50:29 -0000 Message-ID: <37C5EED2.1171630@bigfoot.com> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:50:10 -0700 From: Ludwig Pummer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Francis A. Vidal" Cc: FreeBSD ISP , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Invalid partition table? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Francis A. Vidal" wrote: > the reason why i want to create two fbsd slices on one hard drive is that > i want to make use of the excess space on da0 for the vinum volume. Glad to see that you've fixed your problem, but I felt like telling you that vinum will quite happily use a partition inside your FreeBSD slice, so there's no need to make 2 slices. --Ludwig Pummer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 27 0:34:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.petar.ro (petar.warpnet.ro [194.102.224.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2419514E06 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 00:34:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@petar.ro) Received: from petar.ro ([194.102.224.196]) by ns.petar.ro (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA23901 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:36:30 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from dan@petar.ro) Message-ID: <37C63E5D.91FF7329@petar.ro> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:29:34 +0300 From: Dan Petruc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Help connecting Win98 to FreeBsd box with leased line Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is anyone who was succesful in connecting Win98 to FreeBsd box with a leased line ? I managed to connect some Freebsd boxes to a FreeBsd server with some leased lines. I am using user PPP. Using ATS6=255 in modem initialization string I can force DialupNetworking to connect the modems without sensing the tone. But it seems I can't do the right settings of PPP, because the conection failed with a error message like : Error 650 : "The computer you are dialing in to does not respond to a network request". Dan. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 27 1:54:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from enya.clari.net.au (enya.clari.net.au [203.8.14.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38BB114C28 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 01:54:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danny@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (danny@localhost) by enya.clari.net.au (8.9.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA65728 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 18:54:13 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from danny@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: enya.clari.net.au: danny owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 18:54:13 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" X-Sender: danny@enya.clari.net.au To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Web mirror required. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A major multinational client of ours needs to have one, possibly two mirrors of its web sites. The primary sites are located in Melbourne, connected via Telstra. Non-Australian mirrors are desired. The requirements are: * No dependency on Telstra routing (this includes Connect.com.au) * FreeBSD 3.2, apache-1.3.3+, php3.0.7+ * ssh/telnet access greatly preferred * raw log files which can be gzipped, for transfer to Melbourne for aggregation with the main site's log files. * ability to set .htaccess access control It would be really great if we could run wget to mirror the sites, or even better rsync. 2 sites are 20-30MB and attract few hits 1 site is 150MB and attracts 100,000 hits per month. multi-homed ISPs are preferred. Please e-mail me with details of your network connectivity, about your company, your website, and estimated price of the above. Thanks very much, Daniel O'Callaghan Clarinet Internet Solutions To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 27 2:47:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.polytechnic.edu.na (mail.polytechnic.edu.na [196.31.225.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A767615533 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 02:47:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tim@iafrica.com.na) Received: from [196.31.225.199] (helo=310.priebe.alt.na) by mail.polytechnic.edu.na with smtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 11KKW3-0000SI-00; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:49:55 -0200 From: Tim Priebe Reply-To: tim@iafrica.com.na To: Dan Petruc , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help connecting Win98 to FreeBsd box with leased line Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:16:08 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.17] Content-Type: text/plain References: <37C63E5D.91FF7329@petar.ro> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99082713363900.06847@310.priebe.alt.na> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-KMail-Mark: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I recently tried something similar with windows9x systems, and eventually was told by a number of MCSE's that it was not possible to connect windows9x to a leased line. I probably should not have believed them, but who wants to spend thier time working on a windows box. Depending on wether you were using dialup networking, or "direct connection", it looks like you got further than I did. With the possibility that it might work, I will try this afternoon to change the login prompt to include "CONNECT", and see if I can get it to work. If in the mean time you can send me the configuration you used on the Windows box, I can try them with a Portmaster 2e to see if it works or gives the same error message. Tim. On Fri, 27 Aug 1999, Dan Petruc wrote: > Is anyone who was succesful in connecting Win98 to FreeBsd box with a > leased line ? > > I managed to connect some Freebsd boxes to a FreeBsd server with some > leased lines. I am using user PPP. > > Using ATS6=255 in modem initialization string I can force > DialupNetworking to connect the modems without sensing the tone. But it > seems I can't do the right settings of PPP, because the conection > failed with a error message like : Error 650 : "The computer you are > dialing in to does not respond to a network request". > > > Dan. > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 27 7: 8:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from nac.net (tempest.nac.net [209.123.109.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 893DB15EA4 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 07:08:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garym@nac.net) Received: (qmail 23178 invoked by uid 0); 27 Aug 1999 14:06:45 -0000 Received: from iago.nac.net (garym@209.123.109.26) by tempest.nac.net with SMTP; 27 Aug 1999 14:06:45 -0000 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:06:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gary D. Margiotta" To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Cc: gary@tbe.net Subject: [Slightly OT] FreeBSD Credit Card? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, stick a pic of Chuck on the face of a VISA/MC, and I'd apply for one! http://www.linuxfund.org |^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^| | Gary D. Margiotta Net Access Corp. | | 1-800-NET-ME-36 http://www.nac.net | | "Why go with a spineless ISP??? We've got more Backbone!" | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 27 7:59: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.seidata.com (ns1.seidata.com [208.10.211.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB9A14C3E for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 07:59:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rschunk@seidata.com) Received: from seidata.com (lan-gw.seidata.com [208.10.211.26]) by ns1.seidata.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20259 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:56:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37C6A87E.B3C8A5F0@seidata.com> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:02:22 -0400 From: Ron Schunk Organization: SEI Data X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: mailstats problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Upgraded to sendmail 8.9.3 and ever since the mailstats command has been returning : SEI{mailstats}# mailstats mailstats: file size changed. A man on mailstats says: Statistics are cumulative; zero the statistics file to reset the counters. So I attempt to delete and touch the /var/log/sendmail.st OR cat /dev/null > /var/log/sendmail.st and neither seems to work..../var/log/sendmail.st stays at 616 ..... I'd like to get mailstats working again....any suggestions????? Ron Schunk Seidata/venus To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 27 8: 1:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proteus.eclipse.net.uk (proteus.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E7D14E38 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:01:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by proteus.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63649B13; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 16:01:26 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37C6A8C3.94B8B1ED@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 16:03:31 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tim@iafrica.com.na Cc: Dan Petruc , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help connecting Win98 to FreeBsd box with leased line References: <37C63E5D.91FF7329@petar.ro> <99082713363900.06847@310.priebe.alt.na> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I recently tried something similar with windows9x systems, and > eventually was told by a number of MCSE's that it was not possible to > connect windows9x to a leased line. It should be entirely down to the contents of the modem "driver" .inf file on the Windows box. I have seen (but no longer have a copy of the URL) an .inf file designed for connecting to a university terminal server over a rs232 cable, which is a very similar scenario. -sh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 27 9:33: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from inet.chip-web.com (c1003518-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [24.1.82.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8092415575 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:33:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ludwigp@bigfoot.com) Received: (qmail 4778 invoked from network); 27 Aug 1999 16:32:10 -0000 Received: from furball.chip-web.com (HELO bigfoot.com) (172.16.1.29) by inet.chip-web.com with SMTP; 27 Aug 1999 16:32:10 -0000 Message-ID: <37C6BD78.A6D79FC@bigfoot.com> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:31:52 -0700 From: Ludwig Pummer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Gary D. Margiotta" Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, gary@tbe.net Subject: Re: [Slightly OT] FreeBSD Credit Card? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Gary D. Margiotta" wrote: > > Well, stick a pic of Chuck on the face of a VISA/MC, and I'd apply for > one! NextCard lets you apply for a PictureCard, where you can put your own picture if you want to. The PictureCard costs $9.95 or it's free if you transfer a balance (> $300 ?) from another credit card. And this is quite OT, actually. I would expect a message like this to show up in -questions, but -chat or -advocacy is probably better for this. --Ludwig Pummer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 27 9:47: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from nac.net (tempest.nac.net [209.123.109.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B680A156CB for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:47:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garym@nac.net) Received: (qmail 6907 invoked by uid 0); 27 Aug 1999 16:45:31 -0000 Received: from iago.nac.net (garym@209.123.109.26) by tempest.nac.net with SMTP; 27 Aug 1999 16:45:31 -0000 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:44:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gary D. Margiotta" To: Ludwig Pummer Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, gary@tbe.net Subject: Re: [Slightly OT] FreeBSD Credit Card? In-Reply-To: <37C6BD78.A6D79FC@bigfoot.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > NextCard lets you apply for a PictureCard, where you can put your own > picture if you want to. The PictureCard costs $9.95 or it's free if you > transfer a balance (> $300 ?) from another credit card. Hrm... something to look into... > And this is quite OT, actually. I would expect a message like this to > show up in -questions, but -chat or -advocacy is probably better for > this. True, and I did also post to -advocacy... the reason fr the post to -isp is that a while ago, there was a thread about ISP's and donations to the FBSD project, and I thought that this would be relevant to that in a certain respect. If you read the page about that card, part of the purchases go towards a designated fund, which if FBSD were to do something like this, just think of the revenues that could be generated by ISP's, corporations, and individuals using their 'FreeBSD Visa card'. Think about corporate cards and the like, and the money that is spent on them... |^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^| | Gary D. Margiotta Net Access Corp. | | 1-800-NET-ME-36 http://www.nac.net | | "Why go with a spineless ISP??? We've got more Backbone!" | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 27 11:41:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from magnesium.net (toxic.magnesium.net [204.188.6.238]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D541F155C9 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:41:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from unfurl@magnesium.net) Received: (qmail 50076 invoked by uid 1001); 27 Aug 1999 18:39:21 -0000 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:39:21 -0700 From: Bill Swingle To: "Gary D. Margiotta" Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, gary@tbe.net Subject: Re: [Slightly OT] FreeBSD Credit Card? Message-ID: <19990827113921.D49606@dub.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: ; from Gary D. Margiotta on Fri, Aug 27, 1999 at 10:06:06AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I actaully talked to the founder of this project at Linuxworld a few weeks ago. He was interested in starting a FreeBSDFund card. I gave him my card but have not heard from him. If you guys really want something like this you should send some mail to him at LinuxFund@aol.com letting him know. -Bill On Fri, Aug 27, 1999 at 10:06:06AM -0400, Gary D. Margiotta wrote: > > Well, stick a pic of Chuck on the face of a VISA/MC, and I'd apply for > one! > > http://www.linuxfund.org -- -=| Bill Swingle - unfurl@dub.net - unfurl@freebsd.org - bill@cdrom.com -=| "Computers are useless. They can only give you answers" Pablo Picasso To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 27 12: 8: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bodway.wax.nu (bodway.wax.nu [194.248.7.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97E8A1553C for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:08:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anders@wax.nu) Received: from anders ([194.248.7.3]) by bodway.wax.nu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA03530 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 21:05:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from anders@wax.nu) Message-ID: <00f701bef0bf$34e0f390$c47145c1@elanders.no> From: "Anders Hanssen" To: Subject: postfix vs sendmail (or qmail) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 21:05:58 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all! I'm looking into postfix as a replacement for sendmail on my company's mailserver.. and all i hear about postfix is that it is better than qmail and sendmail.. Anyone of another opinion here? What (if anything) can sendmail do that postfix can't? Thanks for any opinions. -Anders To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 27 12:33:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from verdi.nethelp.no (verdi.nethelp.no [158.36.41.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0765E155BD for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:33:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sthaug@nethelp.no) Received: (qmail 23145 invoked by uid 1001); 27 Aug 1999 19:33:44 +0000 (GMT) To: anders@wax.nu Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: postfix vs sendmail (or qmail) From: sthaug@nethelp.no In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 27 Aug 1999 21:05:58 +0200" References: <00f701bef0bf$34e0f390$c47145c1@elanders.no> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05+ on Emacs 19.34.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 21:33:44 +0200 Message-ID: <23143.935782424@verdi.nethelp.no> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I'm looking into postfix as a replacement for sendmail on my company's > mailserver.. and all i hear about postfix is that it is better than qmail > and sendmail.. IMO Postfix is better than sendmail in several areas - security comes to mind immediately. Ease of configuration is another point (no sendmail.cf!). Whether Postfix is better than qmail depends on your point of view. If you know sendmail, I think it's easier to get used to Postfix than qmail. > Anyone of another opinion here? What (if anything) can sendmail do that > postfix can't? Postfix can't do 'sendmail -qRsite' yet, i.e. flush the queue for one specific site. Probably several other things also, but that's the one I have noticed. Flushing the whole queue works just fine, though. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 27 13:35:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from chain.freebsd.os.org.za (chain.freebsd.os.org.za [196.7.74.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B27F1557A for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:35:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khetan@chain.freebsd.os.org.za) X-Disclaimer: Contents of this e-mail are the writer's opinion X-Disclaimer2: and may not be quoted, re-produced or forwarded X-Disclaimer3: (in part or whole) without the author's permission. Received: from localhost (khetan@localhost) by chain.freebsd.os.org.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA38510; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 21:11:54 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from khetan@chain.freebsd.os.org.za) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 21:11:52 +0200 (SAST) From: Khetan Gajjar Reply-To: Khetan Gajjar To: "Ol.i Th.uns" Cc: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Win32-Client for Secure Filetransfer (encrypted connection) In-Reply-To: <19990823172246.CE03A14BE3@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: X-Mobile: +27 82 9907663 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Around Monday, "Ol.i Th.uns" wrote : OiTu> I'm looking for a free secure 'file-transfer' client for win32. I want OiTu> to login as root and upload files, but I don't want to send my root OiTu> password (and the files) over a unsecured channel. OiTu> I tried to work with SSHd, TeraTerm and tunnled FTP connection, but OiTu> this didn't work. There's a great CLI ssh which includes scp at ftp://ftp.cs.hut.fi/pub/ssh/contrib/ssh-1.2.14-win32bin.zip --- Khetan Gajjar (!kg1779) * khetan@os.org.za http://khetan.os.org.za/ * Talk/Finger khetan@khetan.os.org.za FreeBSD enthusiast * http://www2.za.freebsd.org/ Stupidest quote heard : Who is this BSD, and why should we free him ? Reference : <19990823172246.CE03A14BE3@hub.freebsd.org> Date : Aug 23, 1999, 7:18pm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 27 13:53:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A24F01556C for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:53:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA20608; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:50:53 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:50:53 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Khetan Gajjar Cc: "Ol.i Th.uns" , "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Win32-Client for Secure Filetransfer (encrypted connection) Message-ID: <19990827155053.T27343@futuresouth.com> References: <19990823172246.CE03A14BE3@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: ; from Khetan Gajjar on Fri, Aug 27, 1999 at 09:11:52PM +0200 X-OS: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Aug 27, 1999 at 09:11:52PM +0200, a little birdie told me that Khetan Gajjar remarked > > There's a great CLI ssh which includes scp at > ftp://ftp.cs.hut.fi/pub/ssh/contrib/ssh-1.2.14-win32bin.zip ^^^^^^ Great? I wouldn't go so far as 'great' with that old a version... -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Unix Systems Administrator | fullermd@futuresouth.com Specializing in FreeBSD | http://www.over-yonder.net/ FutureSouth Communications | ISPHelp ISP Consulting "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is because I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 27 14: 0:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from chain.freebsd.os.org.za (chain.freebsd.os.org.za [196.7.74.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2063C14D84 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 13:59:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khetan@chain.freebsd.os.org.za) X-Disclaimer: Contents of this e-mail are the writer's opinion X-Disclaimer2: and may not be quoted, re-produced or forwarded X-Disclaimer3: (in part or whole) without the author's permission. Received: from localhost (khetan@localhost) by chain.freebsd.os.org.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA38629; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 21:34:35 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from khetan@chain.freebsd.os.org.za) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 21:34:35 +0200 (SAST) From: Khetan Gajjar Reply-To: Khetan Gajjar To: "Matthew D. Fuller" Cc: "Ol.i Th.uns" , "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Win32-Client for Secure Filetransfer (encrypted connection) In-Reply-To: <19990827155053.T27343@futuresouth.com> Message-ID: X-Mobile: +27 82 9907663 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Around Today, "Matthew D. Fuller" wrote : MDF> > There's a great CLI ssh which includes scp at MDF> > ftp://ftp.cs.hut.fi/pub/ssh/contrib/ssh-1.2.14-win32bin.zip MDF> ^^^^^^ MDF> Great? I wouldn't go so far as 'great' with that old a version... May be old, but it still works, and for secure copying, it's fine. The protocol version hasn't changed. It's also a CLI, which is great. You are, of course, welcome to recompile it yourself, or use the later Cygnus version. I prefer this one, because it's a helluva lot more secure than anything else, you can setup the keys in a way to only allow access from the particular box with the particular key, etc, etc. The later Cygnus version sucks because it requires you to have \usr, \etc, and a whole bunch of other directories, besides for the Cygnus libraries themselves. This is nice and small. Requires only one environment variable; other than that, it's great. --- Khetan Gajjar (!kg1779) * khetan@os.org.za http://khetan.os.org.za/ * Talk/Finger khetan@khetan.os.org.za FreeBSD enthusiast * http://www2.za.freebsd.org/ Stupidest quote heard : Who is this BSD, and why should we free him ? Reference : <19990827155053.T27343@futuresouth.com> Date : Aug 27, 1999, 3:50pm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 27 15:39:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from homer.excitech.com.au (homer.excitech.com.au [203.35.80.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7236E14C44 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:39:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jordan@excitech.com.au) Received: from frederick (frederick.excitech.com.au [203.35.80.61]) by homer.excitech.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA13881; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 08:43:06 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <000501bef0dc$ff5c1a10$0a00a8c0@frederick> Reply-To: "Jordan Race" From: "Jordan Race" To: Subject: Naieve question Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 08:39:15 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, This is probably only relevant to those here in Australia. I realise this is also not specifically FreeBSD centered, so if anyone could reply privately it would be most appreciated. I am involved with a group that runs a small, non-profit content provision service (mainly hosting). At the moment we have a permenant dial-up connection to Telstra with a router and our own networks etc. We use FreeBSD for all our servers. It has come to the stage to upgrade. As we have 33.6k at the moment, we see little justification in moving to 64k ISDN. What do people believe the best value for money lies in? We are in a country area so Telstra is really our only option - unless someone knows something we don't.. :) My next part is a naieve question - how does it work? For example, at the moment we dial the modem and pay 25c to hold our local call. We then pay the 19c per mb on top of that. With ISDN there are no flat rates? Is our call open permenantly? I know you can do dial on demand with ISDN but what about incoming connections? What about FrameRelay? Any information would be most helpful.. TIA Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 27 16:25:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 608) id 65B0C15569; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 16:25:15 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" To: anders@wax.nu Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <00f701bef0bf$34e0f390$c47145c1@elanders.no> Subject: Re: postfix vs sendmail (or qmail) Message-Id: <19990827232515.65B0C15569@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 16:25:15 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I'm looking into postfix as a replacement for sendmail on my company's > mailserver.. and all i hear about postfix is that it is better than qmail > and sendmail.. > Anyone of another opinion here? What (if anything) can sendmail do that > postfix can't? > i have used both sendmail (6 years) and postfix (1 year). sendmail can rewrite headers and envelopes in ways that postfix can not at this time. sendmail allows you to define additional mailers that can literally do anything to the mail. sendmail is much more flexible and powerful in these ways. postfix delivers mail wonderfully. answers the needs of most servers and is simpler. the cost of the simplicity is a loss of power and flexibility. they are different tools. both are very useful. pick the tool that best matches your needs. that may be both! you might use sendmail to process the mail and perform extensive rewriting before sendmail gives it to postfix for final delivery. jmb To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 27 19:17:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from namaste.cc.columbia.edu (namaste.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF82B14F88; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 19:17:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuyman@confusion.net) Received: from confusion.net (dialup-cc2-94.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.58.199]) by namaste.cc.columbia.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA23688; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 22:16:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37C74680.8DE8199A@confusion.net> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 22:16:32 -0400 From: Laurence Berland Organization: B.R.A.T.T. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Gary D. Margiotta" Cc: Ludwig Pummer , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, gary@tbe.net Subject: Re: [Slightly OT] FreeBSD Credit Card? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Or think of using it to donate money to FreeBSD over credit card, donate 100 but really donate more :) "Gary D. Margiotta" wrote: > > > If you read the page about that card, part of the purchases go towards a > designated fund, which if FBSD were to do something like this, just think > of the revenues that could be generated by ISP's, corporations, and > individuals using their 'FreeBSD Visa card'. Think about corporate cards > and the like, and the money that is spent on them... > > |^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^| > | Gary D. Margiotta Net Access Corp. | > | 1-800-NET-ME-36 http://www.nac.net | > | "Why go with a spineless ISP??? We've got more Backbone!" | > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message -- Laurence Berland, Stuyvesant HS Debate <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Windows 98: n. useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. http://stuy.debate.net icq #7434346 aol imer E1101 The above email Copyright (C) 1999 Laurence Berland All rights reserved To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 27 21: 2:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08BD414EF5; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 21:02:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA28841; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 21:01:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Laurence Berland Cc: "Gary D. Margiotta" , Ludwig Pummer , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, gary@tbe.net Subject: Re: [Slightly OT] FreeBSD Credit Card? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 27 Aug 1999 22:16:32 EDT." <37C74680.8DE8199A@confusion.net> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 21:01:52 -0700 Message-ID: <28837.935812912@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Or think of using it to donate money to FreeBSD over credit card, donate > 100 but really donate more :) Actually, you can already donate to FreeBSD using a credit card. :) See http://www.freebsdmall.com/donate/ - Jrdan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 27 21:29:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from namaste.cc.columbia.edu (namaste.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C61BE1513C; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 21:29:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuyman@confusion.net) Received: from confusion.net (dialup-cc3-96.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.42.201]) by namaste.cc.columbia.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA29556; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 00:29:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37C76591.4C913D1D@confusion.net> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 00:29:05 -0400 From: Laurence Berland Organization: B.R.A.T.T. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: "Gary D. Margiotta" , Ludwig Pummer , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, gary@tbe.net Subject: Re: [Slightly OT] FreeBSD Credit Card? References: <28837.935812912@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I know, I guess what I meant wasn't clear. You could purchase your donation with a FBSD credit card, and be donating more than you're paying...sorry for the confusion "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > > Or think of using it to donate money to FreeBSD over credit card, donate > > 100 but really donate more :) > > Actually, you can already donate to FreeBSD using a credit card. :) > See http://www.freebsdmall.com/donate/ > > - Jrdan -- Laurence Berland, Stuyvesant HS Debate <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Windows 98: n. useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. http://stuy.debate.net icq #7434346 aol imer E1101 The above email Copyright (C) 1999 Laurence Berland All rights reserved To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Aug 28 10:31: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.prophetnetworks.net (mail.prophetnetworks.net [63.71.252.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 001F3155EE for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:30:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bvaughn@prophetnetworks.net) Received: from shell01.prophetnetworks.net (bvaughn@shell01.prophetnetworks.net [63.71.252.10]) by mail.prophetnetworks.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA47707 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 12:31:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bvaughn@prophetnetworks.net) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 12:29:19 -0500 (EST) From: Ben Vaughn To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: cistron and nologin? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Anybody know if theres a way to make cistron radius check a users shell to see if they should be allowed to log in or not? Thanks in advance, -biv To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Aug 28 17:52: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smople.thehub.com.au (smople.thehub.com.au [203.143.240.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9EEA14E98 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 17:51:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from richard@thehub.com.au) Received: from richard (pc228.internal.thehub.com.au [203.143.240.228]) by smople.thehub.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA08611 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 10:50:41 +1000 (EST) Reply-To: From: "Richard Uren" To: Subject: Offtopic mail question. Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 10:46:56 +1000 Message-ID: <000501bef1b7$ff701fc0$e4f08fcb@thehub.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey, Due to a configuration blunder of sendmail and the vusertab function I find myself with a 40 Mb mail file which representls emails to a few hundred people for a downstream domain. Does anyone have any advice on tools (or cli examples) that can be used to re-inject the emails from this file back into the mail system ? (bearing in mind that all the emails in the file have headers and other usual stuff in them) Thanks. Cheers Richard To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Aug 28 18:57:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp2.maxim.net (smtp2.maxim.net [206.171.12.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BFC514D3C; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 18:57:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from arabian@nac.net) Received: from qatar ([194.133.34.138]) by smtp2.maxim.net (8.8.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA04019; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 18:00:33 -0700 Message-ID: <008601bef1c0$bc1721c0$191e0285@net.qa.qatar.net.qa> Reply-To: "Abdullah Bin Hamad." From: "Abdullah Bin Hamad." To: Cc: References: <99082820345500.02576@bopbsd.trison.edu> <37C88EA1.3E236777@gorean.org> Subject: FreeBSD vs SunOS/Solaris Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 04:48:53 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello folks, Why someone would choose FreeDSD for his ISP instead of SunOS/Solaris ? An ISP has 14k Dialup users. What could FreeBSD provide to an ISP more than SunOS/Solairs ? Should the ISP run the mail server on differnet machine, and named on saprate machine ..etc? Could someone who was using SunOS/Solaris give me more details. Your help is appreicated. -Arabian aka Abdullah To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Aug 28 19: 8:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from enya.clari.net.au (enya.clari.net.au [203.8.14.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60E5714EEC for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 19:08:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danny@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (danny@localhost) by enya.clari.net.au (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA50182; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:07:04 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from danny@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: enya.clari.net.au: danny owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:07:04 +1000 (EST) From: "Daniel O'Callaghan" X-Sender: danny@enya.clari.net.au To: Richard Uren Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Offtopic mail question. In-Reply-To: <000501bef1b7$ff701fc0$e4f08fcb@thehub.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Richard, A while ago I did a similar thing, although my error was to feed all mail to *.com.au to a downstream uucp node :-) That was fun to undo... What you'll need to do is split the mailbox you have into individual messages, using a perl script or some such to split on the 'From ' lines at the start of each message. Once upon a time I hacked the 'from' command to do just that, but I'm not sure where I put the patches. When you have your separated messages, feed them into '/usr/sbin/sendmail -T', one by one. It probably won't handle every message properly, especially people who mail to a list and set the To: line to be themselves - you'll just send the message back to the sender. Messages which have mailling lists in the To: line will be sent back to the mailling list, which is also undesirable. You might be able to do additional processing of the messages yourself to work out which ones are safe to send automatically, by checking to see if the sender or recipient is local to you. Cheers, Danny To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Aug 28 20:55:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C4E14E30; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 20:55:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwakers@home.com) Received: from belgarath ([24.5.221.231]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <19990829035327.IHLI29524.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@belgarath>; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 20:53:27 -0700 Message-ID: <002001bef1d2$625c39b0$e7dd0518@mwakers.net> From: "Michael W. Akers" To: "Abdullah Bin Hamad." , Cc: References: <99082820345500.02576@bopbsd.trison.edu> <37C88EA1.3E236777@gorean.org> <008601bef1c0$bc1721c0$191e0285@net.qa.qatar.net.qa> Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs SunOS/Solaris Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 20:55:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Abdullah, Before asking these questions, please do the following. SPARC: 1) Check to make sure that the modem control bank software exists for FreeBSD. 2) Take a SPARC station and remove the HD and swap it with a bland HD, then install FreeBSD on that platform. Make sure it runs correctly. 3) Make sure that all of the scripts will operate correctly in the FreeBSD environment. 4) Test the ISP environment under full simulated load, and test it under real mode. PC: 1) On a PC using an Intel MB w/500MHz Pent III proc. 512MB PC-100 DRAM, Adaptec U2WIDE controller, Seagate Cheetah U2Wide LVD HD (5.4MS). 2) Install FreeBSD. 3) 1,3-4 under SPARC apply. Remember that Sun has a proven performance niche where ISP is concerned. Do make the comparisons above and you should have the ammo to make a decision. Even though FreeBSD is free and very fast (small kernel) it is the hardware in this case that makes all of the difference. Hope this helps. Michael W. Akers M. Akers Enterprises Systems Administration and Integration Services ----- Original Message ----- From: Abdullah Bin Hamad. To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, August 28, 1999 6:48 PM Subject: FreeBSD vs SunOS/Solaris > Hello folks, > > Why someone would choose FreeDSD for his ISP instead of SunOS/Solaris ? > > An ISP has 14k Dialup users. > > What could FreeBSD provide to an ISP more than SunOS/Solairs ? > > Should the ISP run the mail server on differnet machine, and named on > saprate machine ..etc? > > Could someone who was using SunOS/Solaris give me more details. > > Your help is appreicated. > > -Arabian aka Abdullah > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Aug 28 21:58:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smople.thehub.com.au (smople.thehub.com.au [203.143.240.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89F7C14CC1 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 21:58:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from richard@thehub.com.au) Received: from richard (pc228.internal.thehub.com.au [203.143.240.228]) by smople.thehub.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA29683; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:57:14 +1000 (EST) Reply-To: From: "Richard Uren" To: "'Norman Widders'" Cc: Subject: RE: Offtopic mail question. Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:53:29 +1000 Message-ID: <002801bef1da$70acf420$e4f08fcb@thehub.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks for the response. I cobbled something together based around the 'split' command (which allows you to split a file on a keyword - cool feature). Cheers Richard > -----Original Message----- > From: Norman Widders [mailto:winspace@paladincorp.com.au] > Sent: Sunday, 29 August 1999 2:43 > To: Richard Uren > Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Offtopic mail question. > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sun, 29 Aug 1999, Richard Uren wrote: > > i think 'formail' is exactly what you want... > > /Norman > > > Due to a configuration blunder of sendmail and the > > vusertab function I find myself with a 40 Mb mail file > > which representls emails to a few hundred people for a > > downstream domain. > > > > Does anyone have any advice on tools (or cli examples) > > that can be used to re-inject the emails from this file > > back into the mail system ? > > > > (bearing in mind that all the emails in the file have > > headers and other usual stuff in them) > > Paladin Corporation Pty Ltd. ACN: 081-191-611 > The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne - Chaucer > Software Engineering: c/c++/perl/sql/eiffel/pascal/haskell > Norman Widders NIC: NW296-AU FreeBSD, Solaris, SCO, Debian > Ph: +612 9835-4782 Fax: +612 9864-0487 Mobile: 0416-207-857 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v0.9.10 (FreeBSD) > Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.60 > > iEYEARECAAYFAjfIul8ACgkQfpbFlIYNi7f/WwCdG4pTSGaRhNhaqG3ENOkollTe > nyEAn2HMhK+LYDlX7FIQ/rhHdcrtGLgf > =4qJM > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Aug 28 22:26:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.aye.net (phoenix.aye.net [206.185.8.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0B85714E3C for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 22:26:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from barrett@phoenix.aye.net) Received: (qmail 9417 invoked by uid 1000); 29 Aug 1999 05:18:14 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 Aug 1999 05:18:14 -0000 Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 01:18:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Barrett Richardson To: "Abdullah Bin Hamad." Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs SunOS/Solaris In-Reply-To: <008601bef1c0$bc1721c0$191e0285@net.qa.qatar.net.qa> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 29 Aug 1999, Abdullah Bin Hamad. wrote: > Hello folks, > > Why someone would choose FreeDSD for his ISP instead of SunOS/Solaris ? > > An ISP has 14k Dialup users. > > What could FreeBSD provide to an ISP more than SunOS/Solairs ? Self reliance and adaptability. Open Source Systems are becoming increasingly attractive in the ISP arena for a multitude of reasons. If you have proprietary software needs that would have to be weighed in the balance. > > Should the ISP run the mail server on differnet machine, and named on > saprate machine ..etc? That is one route. You can provide reliable services by having multiple low cost servers as opposed to having a monster Solaris box. A well thought out architecture will scale nicely to a large user base. All services on a single box provides centralized management, but a single problematic service can affect services across the board. There is a point at which you cannot add more tasks to single box; that point is becoming more easily reached these days. > > Could someone who was using SunOS/Solaris give me more details. > > Your help is appreicated. > > -Arabian aka Abdullah > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message