From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Aug 29 5:22:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.morelr.com (ns1.morelr.com [206.240.28.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43F3E15721 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 05:22:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rmorel@morelr.com) Received: from mr3 (mr3.morelr.com [206.240.29.3]) by ns1.morelr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA09246 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 07:18:52 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rmorel@morelr.com) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990829121856.006c9f98@mail.morelr.com> X-Sender: rmorel@mail.morelr.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 07:18:56 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Rick Morel Subject: Re: cistron and nologin? Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 12:29 PM 8/28/99 -0500, Ben Vaughn wrote: >Hi, > Anybody know if theres a way to make cistron radius check a users >shell to see if they should be allowed to log in or not? > >Thanks in advance, >-biv Not really, but it can check the group. Below is from our default part of "users". We created a group called "nodial". DEFAULT Simultaneous-Use = 1 Fall-Through = 1 DEFAULT Auth-Type = Reject, Group = "nodial" DEFAULT Auth-Type = System (ETC) Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Aug 29 12:24:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mongoose.slip.net (mongoose.slip.net [207.171.193.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA16015102 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:24:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from admin@addr.com) Received: from [209.152.191.146] (helo=comp3.addr.com) by mongoose.slip.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #4) id 11LAYu-0004KL-00 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:24:20 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990829122227.0218c1a0@mail3.addr.com> X-Sender: addr@mail3.addr.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:24:12 -0700 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Addr.com Web Hosting" Subject: Q: Frequent panics on 3.2-RELEASE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I am getting very frequent panics (3 per day) on a 3.2-RELEASE server.: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode mp_lock = 00000002; cpuid = 0; lapic.id = 00000000 fault virtual address = 0xbfca0b0c fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0255fa3 stack pointer = 0x10:0xcccb6f08 frame pointer = 0x10:0xcccb6f18 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 59793 (httpd) interrupt mask = net tty bio cam <- SMP: XXX trap number = 12 panic: page fault mp_lock = 00000002; cpuid = 0; lapic.id = 00000000 boot() called on cpu#0 # nm /kernel | grep c0255f c0255f3c T pmap_remove_pages The once the machine reboots, it often follows up (within 5 minutes) with: panic: sbflush: cc 0 || mb 0 || mbcnt 67108864 mp_lock = 00000001; cpuid = 0; lapic.id = 00000000 boot() called on cpu#0 It is a dual PIII-450 machine, with 512 MB of ram and DPT raid controller (maxusers set at 256). The machine is mildly loaded, running http, ftp, pop3, smtp, telnet... as well as a low volume NFS client and server. Any suggestions as to how to fix these panics would be greatly appreciated. If more info is needed I can probably find it. It's also likely that these panics are a result of an intentional attack since they began occurring only recently. Thanks in advance, Anthony. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Aug 29 20: 0:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dt011n65.san.rr.com (dt010nb9.san.rr.com [204.210.12.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3857914C83 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 20:00:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt011n65.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA99900; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 20:00:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Message-ID: <37C9F3CD.DA824B@gorean.org> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 20:00:29 -0700 From: Doug Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Addr.com Web Hosting" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Q: Frequent panics on 3.2-RELEASE References: <4.2.0.58.19990829122227.0218c1a0@mail3.addr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Addr.com Web Hosting" wrote: > > Hi, > > I am getting very frequent panics (3 per day) on a 3.2-RELEASE server.: Can you please upgrade to 3.2-Stable, then follow up to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org if you still experience this difficulty? A number of improvements have been made to the 3.2 branch, and given that 3.3 is about to come out if you can give good data on a -Stable system that is still having this problem it will get top priority. Good luck, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 30 7:45:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from Samizdat.uucom.com (samizdat.uucom.com [198.202.217.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BCB5152A6; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 07:45:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cshenton@uucom.com) Received: (from cshenton@localhost) by Samizdat.uucom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA26928; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:43:14 -0400 (EDT) To: "Abdullah Bin Hamad." Cc: , Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs SunOS/Solaris References: <99082820345500.02576@bopbsd.trison.edu> <37C88EA1.3E236777@gorean.org> <008601bef1c0$bc1721c0$191e0285@net.qa.qatar.net.qa> User-Agent: SEMI/1.13.3 (Komaiko) FLIM/1.12.5 (Hirahata) Emacs/20.3 (i386-pc-solaris2.7) MULE/4.0 (HANANOEN) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.3 - "Komaiko") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Chris Shenton Date: 30 Aug 1999 10:43:14 -0400 In-Reply-To: "Abdullah Bin Hamad."'s message of "Sun, 29 Aug 1999 04:48:53 +0300" Message-ID: Lines: 39 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/Emacs 20.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 29 Aug 1999 04:48:53 +0300, "Abdullah Bin Hamad." said: Abdullah> Hello folks, Why someone would choose FreeDSD for his ISP Abdullah> instead of SunOS/Solaris ? Abdullah> An ISP has 14k Dialup users. Abdullah> What could FreeBSD provide to an ISP more than SunOS/Solairs Abdullah> ? Abdullah> Should the ISP run the mail server on differnet machine, and Abdullah> named on saprate machine ..etc? Abdullah> Could someone who was using SunOS/Solaris give me more Abdullah> details. I help run one, but more like 2K dialup users instead of 14K (at this time). We use FreeBSD because of its cost, additional hardware is cheap and easy to find in case of emergency, and because it's stable and fast. I particularly like the fact that if I want to use some software package (e.g., Apache+mod_ssl, Cistron RADIUS, MRTG, ...) it's trivial to build from the ports collection. I help run another smallish ISP and use Sun there because it was donated hardware. Much harder and more expensive to upgrade the hardware, Solaris isn't *nearly* as fast, and it's harder to get OS bugs fixed. Building packages isn't as trivial as on FreeBSD. I'd go FreeBSD at this ISP if I had my way. At the first ISP we run mail, web, and RADIUS on a different machines -- the last for security, and the former for scalability. It would be easier to combine them (don't have to keep passwords in sync) but harder to grow the operation I think. What I'd like eventually to do is get all the passwords for RADIUS, FTP, POP out of the /etc/passwd file and into an application level database so there'd be no chance of system-level login for the customers and copying this authentication database wouldn't be so sensitive. I know it's doable now, just would take a lot of time I don't have right now. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 30 14: 4:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from iohost.com (io001.iohost.com [209.189.124.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A4B14C0E; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:04:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randy@virtualis.com) Received: from rknt2 (joe.hiper.net [206.111.55.146]) by iohost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA19285; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:19:22 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990826211352.03b15440@ccsales.com> X-Sender: rkatzvs@ccsales.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:13:52 -0700 To: questions@freebsd.org From: "Randy A. Katz" Subject: Sr. Network Engineer Cc: isp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Position: Senior Network Engineer=20 Description: Develop scaleable, secure, and robust systems. Provide the technical knowledge to grow and maintain the infrastructure of a rapidly growing web hosting company. =20 Requirements:=09 =B7 Unix=20 =B7 Must have 2+ years of internet or corporate experience =B7 Excellent oral and written communication skills =B7 Degree preferred=20 =B7 Cisco Routers (7000 and up) =B7 Operate sniffers =B7 Knowledgeable in the physical wiring of a system including network switches, bandwidth management devices, clustering controllers, and Cisco routers. -- Take care, ----------------------------------------------------------------- Randy A. Katz | Chief Technology Officer | Virtualis . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . mailto:rkatz@virtualisys.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- SUPPORT --> http://www.virtualisys.com/support VR AREA --> http://www.virtualisys.com/vrarea VR FAQ --> http://www.virtualisys.com/vrarea/faq.html SALES GUIDE --> http://www.virtualisys.com/guides/sales SUPPLY STORE --> http://www.virtualisys.com/supplystore CUSTOMER AREA --> http://www.virtualisys.com/customerarea VR BULLETIN BOARD --> http://www.virtualisys.com/vrarea/vr_board ----------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 30 23:17:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from members.activetech.net (members.activetech.net [209.81.201.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6469515108 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 23:17:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@activetech.net) Received: from wybitny (wybitny.activetech.net [209.81.201.10]) by members.activetech.net (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA27446 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 01:26:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <014d01bef376$e4fc8f00$0ac951d1@activetech.net> From: "Kris Kedzierski" To: "FreeBSD-ISP List" Subject: Cobalt like for FreeBSD? Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 01:05:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is there anything out there that would compete with Cobalt's RAQs with FreeBSD? We are looking into somthing that would be easier to manage by our customers themselves instead of us doing all the work all the time. Thanks Kris Kedzierski Activetech kris@activetech.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 0: 8:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DEE615369 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 00:08:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: from current1.whistle.com (current1.whistle.com [207.76.205.22]) by alpo.whistle.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA91635; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 00:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 00:05:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Kris Kedzierski Cc: FreeBSD-ISP List Subject: Re: Cobalt like for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <014d01bef376$e4fc8f00$0ac951d1@activetech.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Whistle intejet? On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, Kris Kedzierski wrote: > Is there anything out there that would compete with Cobalt's RAQs with > FreeBSD? We are looking into somthing that would be easier to manage by our > customers themselves instead of us doing all the work all the time. > > Thanks > > Kris Kedzierski > Activetech > kris@activetech.net > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 1:20:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from members.activetech.net (members.activetech.net [209.81.201.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F9B9153CE for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 01:20:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@activetech.net) Received: from wybitny (wybitny.activetech.net [209.81.201.10]) by members.activetech.net (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA27911; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 03:28:02 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000d01bef389$1aa2d260$0ac951d1@activetech.net> From: "Kris Kedzierski" To: "Julian Elischer" Cc: "FreeBSD-ISP List" References: Subject: Re: Cobalt like for FreeBSD? Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 03:16:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yeah, is it based on FreeBSD? It might work but you have to sell one for each customer. Whats nice about Cobalt is the virtual hosting and all the features for multi-customer support on one box Kris > Whistle intejet? > > > On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, Kris Kedzierski wrote: > > > Is there anything out there that would compete with Cobalt's RAQs with > > FreeBSD? We are looking into somthing that would be easier to manage by our > > customers themselves instead of us doing all the work all the time. > > > > Thanks > > > > Kris Kedzierski > > Activetech > > kris@activetech.net > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 2: 0:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from caladan.tdx.co.uk (caladan.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B18915398 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 02:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kpielorz@tdx.co.uk) Received: from tdx.co.uk (lorca-tx.tdx.co.uk [195.188.177.242]) by caladan.tdx.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3/Kp) with ESMTP id WAA10440; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 22:14:39 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37C30B3E.B1D894DA@tdx.co.uk> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 22:14:38 +0100 From: Karl Pielorz Organization: TDX - The Digital eXchange X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Shawn Workman Cc: Stuart Henderson , Dominik Brettnacher , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IP Accounting References: <37C302EC.45A675B8@eclipse.net.uk> <036301beee72$9ddd48c0$24a535cf@ieasoftware.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Shawn Workman wrote: > > I always see that my NIC is in promiscuous mode, is that a bad thing? > > how do I change it if it is? By default it should not be in promiscuous mode unless your running something like traffhow, or tcpdump (or, I believe DHCP?) etc. (all of which AFAIK use the bpf device). Does your Kernel have the bpf device in it? - i.e. in it's config file? - How do you know the card is in promiscuous mode? Promiscuous mode means your network card will receive and process every packet on the network cable your on, even those not destined for your own machine / self. It's sometimes used by hackers to 'sniff' networks for passwords, un-encrypted telnet sessions etc. [Or just to watch the traffic go by... :)] As to how to change it? - First find out why it's in promisc. mode if it is... You can't go and compile out the bpf devices in the kernel, if something your using actually needs them?! :-) -Kp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 6:51:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proteus.eclipse.net.uk (proteus.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF6D014E5D for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 06:51:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by proteus.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 899C39B13; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:50:10 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37CBDE1E.68B9E8FC@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:52:30 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Cc: anders@wax.nu, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: postfix vs sendmail (or qmail) References: <19990827232515.65B0C15569@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Anyone of another opinion here? What (if anything) can sendmail do that > > postfix can't? etrn on Postfix _currently_ retries the whole queue, not just the domain in question. That is on the list of things to be done for the future (I think it is tied in with the DSN code which is not yet done either - so that may also be a reason you might want to keep sendmail around somewhere). > sendmail can rewrite headers and envelopes in ways that > postfix can not at this time. There's quite a lot that can be done using Postfix's regexp maps, which can replace some of the more straightforward custom sendmail rules in a simple way. > sendmail allows you to define additional mailers that can > literally do anything to the mail. as can postfix: transport(5), /etc/postfix/master.cf > they are different tools. both are very useful. pick the > tool that best matches your needs. that may be both! you might use > sendmail to process the mail and perform extensive rewriting before > sendmail gives it to postfix for final delivery. Agreed - both have their place. Currently, I'm using sendmail for store- and-forward SMTP for dialup connections, and Postfix as the main outgoing relay. I've still got sendmail doing local delivery at the moment but that probably won't be for long, as Postfix's equivalent of the virtusertable has some subtle but useful differences. Stuart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 7:26:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proteus.eclipse.net.uk (proteus.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1295814F61 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:26:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by proteus.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2DC9B0E; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:26:09 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37CBE68C.A5E72C26@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:28:28 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kedzierski Cc: FreeBSD-ISP List Subject: Re: Cobalt like for FreeBSD? References: <014d01bef376$e4fc8f00$0ac951d1@activetech.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Is there anything out there that would compete with Cobalt's RAQs with > FreeBSD? Yep, netmax (for the management interface, which would be built in to the cobalt boxes), you should be able to pick up a 1U case from Tesys or Penguin. That way you are also on much more standard hardware (unlike the Cobalts which istr use a MIPS cpu). -sh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 7:31:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proteus.eclipse.net.uk (proteus.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F49214E6D for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:31:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by proteus.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD439B12; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:30:32 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37CBE794.77A96C84@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:32:52 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Khetan Gajjar Cc: "Matthew D. Fuller" , "Ol.i Th.uns" , "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: Win32-Client for Secure Filetransfer (encrypted connection) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > The later Cygnus version sucks because it requires you to have > \usr, \etc, and a whole bunch of other directories, besides Just install the complete cygnus package, that way you get some useful things (most of the gnu file+bin utils, gcc, make, ...) those directories don't suck when they're doing something useful :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 7:38:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proteus.eclipse.net.uk (proteus.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB5F14E6D; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:38:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by proteus.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AB849B12; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:37:44 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37CBE944.B7E7102@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:40:04 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Abdullah Bin Hamad." Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs SunOS/Solaris References: <99082820345500.02576@bopbsd.trison.edu> <37C88EA1.3E236777@gorean.org> <008601bef1c0$bc1721c0$191e0285@net.qa.qatar.net.qa> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Why someone would choose FreeDSD for his ISP instead of SunOS/Solaris ? Price, access to source code, speed, stability, and of course Chuck. :-) > Should the ISP run the mail server on differnet machine, and named on > saprate machine ..etc? To take this specific example, the mail server should probably be running a caching named to reduce ethernet traffic, even if it's not directly used by customers. In general, splitting the services up like this is a good idea, both to reduce the impact if the box fails and to make tracking down problems easier. Using a free OS makes this job a lot easier since you aren't paying one license per machine. I would much prefer to run core services on a larger number of less well specced machines than to run many services on one or two fast machines. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 7:57:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from richard2.pil.net (richard2.pil.net [207.8.164.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BC47015981 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:56:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from up@pil.net) Received: (qmail 14803 invoked by uid 1825); 31 Aug 1999 14:55:18 -0000 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:55:17 -0400 (EDT) From: X-Sender: up@richard2.pil.net To: Stuart Henderson Cc: FreeBSD-ISP List Subject: Re: Cobalt like for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <37CBE68C.A5E72C26@eclipse.net.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > Is there anything out there that would compete with Cobalt's RAQs with > > FreeBSD? > > Yep, netmax (for the management interface, which would be built in to > the cobalt boxes), you should be able to pick up a 1U case from Tesys or > Penguin. That way you are also on much more standard hardware (unlike > the Cobalts which istr use a MIPS cpu). From what I can find, Netmax is strictly for Linux... James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor up@3.am http://3.am ========================================================================= ISPF 3 - The Forum for ISPs by ISPs(tm) || Nov 15-17, 1999, New Orleans 3 days of clues, news, and views from the industry's best and brightest. Visit for information and registration. ========================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 8:15: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cronus.medianetwork.se (cronus.medianetwork.se [193.14.204.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B12D714F83 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:14:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from support@junglenote.com) Received: from junglenote.com (digital02.medianetwork.se [193.14.204.220]) by cronus.medianetwork.se (8.9.3/8.7) with ESMTP id RAA08940 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:11:47 +0200 Received: from enigmatic [127.0.0.1] by junglenote.com [localhost] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.84.R) for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:15:14 +0200 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:15:12 +0200 Message-ID: <01BEF3D4.62BFB5E0.support@junglenote.com> From: Dan Larsson To: "[FreeBSD-ISP-List] (E-post)" Subject: store pages in database Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:15:12 +0200 Organization: Portabla Datorer AB X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet-e-post/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Return-Path: support@junglenote.com Reply-To: support@junglenote.com Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This might be offtopic, if so for that I apologize. I intend t create a html (php etc...) page where the editor uploads his/her article (pure html - no graphics) to the script which then stores it in a database. Has anyone else attempted to do this or even are there ready to run solutions for this? Thanks! /D To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 8:21:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from binnacle.wantabe.com (binnacle.wantabe.com [209.16.8.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6799014F56 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:21:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeffrl@wantabe.com) Received: from localhost (jeffrl@localhost) by binnacle.wantabe.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA03965; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:21:41 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jeffrl@wantabe.com) X-Authentication-Warning: binnacle.wantabe.com: jeffrl owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:21:41 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jeffrey J. Libman" To: Dan Larsson Cc: "[FreeBSD-ISP-List] (E-post)" Subject: Re: store pages in database In-Reply-To: <01BEF3D4.62BFB5E0.support@junglenote.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org well...not quite the same thing, but if you look at http://www.free-classifieds.com, this is entirely php3 plus mysql based. i think you can see where expanded text entry for web page instead of where i have a limited space for ad entry might work in a similar application. cheers, jeff | |\ +------------------------------+ Jeffrey J. Libman, ops. mgr. | \ | Wantabe Internet Services | Wantabe, Inc. |__\ +------------------------------+ jeffrl@wantabe.com <-----|------> | access web cgi ftp news mail | (281) 493-0718 __,.-=\'`^`'~=-../__,.-= +------------------------------+ On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, Dan Larsson wrote: > This might be offtopic, if so for that I apologize. > > I intend t create a html (php etc...) page where the editor uploads his/her > article (pure html - no graphics) to the script which then stores it in > a database. Has anyone else attempted to do this or even are there > ready to run solutions for this? > > Thanks! > > /D > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 8:34:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from www.tatnet.com (tatnet.com [207.239.107.171]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C784314CB0 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:34:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dlf@tatnet.com) Received: from tatnet.com (1-iron.tatnet.com [207.239.107.140]) by www.tatnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06648; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:33:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37CC0320.705EFF4B@tatnet.com> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:30:24 -0500 From: David Fehrenbacher Organization: tatnet, inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: support@junglenote.com Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: store pages in database References: <01BEF3D4.62BFB5E0.support@junglenote.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi: php, apache, mysql, and mod_auth_mysql (all together now) work great for this kind of stuff. dlf Dan Larsson wrote: > > This might be offtopic, if so for that I apologize. > > I intend t create a html (php etc...) page where the editor uploads his/her > article (pure html - no graphics) to the script which then stores it in > a database. Has anyone else attempted to do this or even are there > ready to run solutions for this? > > Thanks! > > /D > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- tatnet, inc. Tel: 410.571.9462 | Fax: 410.571.9442 email: info@tatnet.com | http://www.tatnet.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 8:50:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from kermit.empireone.net (kermit.empireone.net [207.111.39.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F20414FE8 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:50:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@empireone.net) Received: from jrsysadmin (jrsysadmin.empireone.net [209.118.194.236]) by kermit.empireone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA05303; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:47:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00ce01bedb6c$40640440$ecc276d1@empireone.net> From: "James F. Ruffer III" To: "David Fehrenbacher" , Cc: References: <01BEF3D4.62BFB5E0.support@junglenote.com> <37CC0320.705EFF4B@tatnet.com> Subject: adduser Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 11:49:19 -0400 Organization: unixbox.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hmm does anyone have a great adduser program that wil set repquota while adding the user To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 9: 3:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from unix.megared.net.mx (megamail.megared.com.mx [207.249.162.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E544C14CE1 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:03:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ales@megared.net.mx) Received: from ales (ales.megared.net.mx [207.249.163.252]) by unix.megared.net.mx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA21565; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:02:34 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ales@megared.net.mx) Message-ID: <030d01bef3ca$54cb3720$fca3f9cf@megared.net.mx> From: "Alejandro Ramirez" To: "James F. Ruffer III" , "David Fehrenbacher" , Cc: References: <01BEF3D4.62BFB5E0.support@junglenote.com> <37CC0320.705EFF4B@tatnet.com> <00ce01bedb6c$40640440$ecc276d1@empireone.net> Subject: RE: adduser Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:03:14 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, With webmin you can do it, and with a web interface. Ales ----- Original Message ----- From: James F. Ruffer III To: David Fehrenbacher ; Cc: Sent: Saturday, July 31, 1999 10:49 AM Subject: adduser > hmm does anyone have a great adduser program that wil set repquota > while adding the user > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 9: 4:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from thrir.virtuell.com (www.virtuell.com [212.6.128.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9FCB41594D for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:04:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oliver.thuns@gmx.de) Received: (qmail 30359 invoked from network); 31 Aug 1999 15:57:57 -0000 Received: from ppp-124.tnt02.ffm.nikoma.de (HELO localhost) (212.122.146.124) by thrir.virtuell.com with SMTP; 31 Aug 1999 15:57:56 -0000 From: "Ol.i Th.uns" To: "Stuart Henderson" Cc: "FreeBSD-ISP List" Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:04:26 +0200 Reply-To: "Ol.i Th.uns" X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Professional (2.01.1600) For Windows 95 (4.0.950) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Cobalt like for FreeBSD? Message-Id: <19990831160431.9FCB41594D@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Do you know the URL of Tesys and Penguin? On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:28:28 +0100, Stuart Henderson wrote: >> Is there anything out there that would compete with Cobalt's RAQs with >> FreeBSD? > >Yep, netmax (for the management interface, which would be built in to >the cobalt boxes), you should be able to pick up a 1U case from Tesys or >Penguin. That way you are also on much more standard hardware (unlike >the Cobalts which istr use a MIPS cpu). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 9:29:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74CF914ECF for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:29:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Received: from dbsys (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA15097; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:25:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199908311625.MAA15097@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:19:33 -0400 To: "Ol.i Th.uns" , "Stuart Henderson" From: Dennis Subject: Re: Cobalt like for FreeBSD? Cc: "FreeBSD-ISP List" In-Reply-To: <19990831160431.9FCB41594D@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 06:04 PM 8/30/99 +0200, Ol.i Th.uns wrote: >Do you know the URL of Tesys and Penguin? > >On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:28:28 +0100, Stuart Henderson wrote: > >>> Is there anything out there that would compete with Cobalt's RAQs with >>> FreeBSD? do you mean like physically, or like interface-wise? We sell Freebsd/linux routers in a 1U case....also 1 to 5 ethernet port units with bandwidth management and apache. www.etinc.com dennis Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com ISA and PCI T1/T3/V35/HSSI Cards for FreeBSD and LINUX Multiport T1 and HSSI/T3 UNIX-based Routers Bandwidth Management Standalone Systems Bandwidth Management software for LINUX and FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 10: 5:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from finland.ispro.net.tr (finland.ispro.net.tr [195.174.18.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F064215BCD for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:05:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from ispro.net.tr (dyn-2-180.tku.netti.fi [195.16.221.181]) by finland.ispro.net.tr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA28448; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:58:22 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Message-ID: <37CC0952.FDB7916E@ispro.net.tr> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:56:50 +0300 From: Evren Yurtesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "James F. Ruffer III" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: adduser References: <01BEF3D4.62BFB5E0.support@junglenote.com> <37CC0320.705EFF4B@tatnet.com> <00ce01bedb6c$40640440$ecc276d1@empireone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org why do not you put a line to adduser script something like edquota -p 100 $UID well I am not sure what is the variable for UID in adduser script though, this would copy the quota settings of the account with uid 100 to the new account created...I believe this works even when you do not have an account with the $UID because I did something like edquota -p 100 1000-10000 and now all the users have the same quotas automatically when I add them is this what you want to do? Evren "James F. Ruffer III" wrote: > hmm does anyone have a great adduser program that wil set repquota > while adding the user > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 10:11:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from magicnet.magicnet.net (magicnet.magicnet.net [204.96.116.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C559814DA6 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:11:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@bilver.magicnet.net) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by magicnet.magicnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.8) with UUCP id NAA14893 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:07:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.magicnet.net (8.9.2/8.9.1) id MAA81227 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:35:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Vermillion Message-Id: <199908311635.MAA81227@bilver.magicnet.net> Subject: Suggestion on best filtering tool To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:35:12 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Set will include publically accessible email kiosk, with advertising content when not in use. The machine need to conform to a politically correct environment. Current talk is for use NT with a subscrption service and program that is updated regularly from the vendors site. Anything similar in BSD land. If it's there I just haven't looked in all the places - and there are many - but I looked where I thought they would might be. Any hints/comments/etc would be appreciated. Bill -- bv@wjv.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 10:30: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bekool.com (ns2.netquick.net [216.48.34.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E178A14CC2; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:29:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trouble@hackfurby.com) Received: from bastille.netquick.net ([216.48.32.159] helo=hackfurby.com) by bekool.com with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11Ls3j-0002K4-00; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:51:03 +0000 Message-ID: <37CC266A.9354E584@hackfurby.com> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:00:58 -0500 From: TrouBle Reply-To: trouble@hackfurby.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-19990816-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dennis , "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" , FreeBSD-ISP List , "Ol.i Th.uns" , Stuart Henderson Subject: Re: Cobalt like for FreeBSD? References: <199908311625.MAA15097@etinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dennis, can i ask what your products have to do with a cobalt raq, absolutly nothing, they are router/filtering products now low level server produsts like was originally requested, such as the raq 2, why dount you takje that 1 u case and install a straight FreeBSD system on it slap in a ethernet interface and then re-post to the group. instead of trying to sell routers and networking solutions, when they were looking for a server > We sell Freebsd/linux routers in a 1U case....also 1 to 5 ethernet port > units with bandwidth management and apache. > > www.etinc.com > > dennis > Emerging Technologies, Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 10:48:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proteus.eclipse.net.uk (proteus.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C871B14C09 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:48:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by proteus.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C3C09B13; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 18:47:31 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37CC15BE.E7F1077F@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 18:49:50 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ol.i Th.uns" Cc: FreeBSD-ISP List Subject: Re: Cobalt like for FreeBSD? References: <19990831160425.56E569B16@proteus.eclipse.net.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Do you know the URL of Tesys and Penguin? http://www.tesys.com/rackmount/systemenclosures/rackmount_telepro_100.html http://www.penguincomputing.com It looks like Penguin's smallest might be 2u. I would add, these are probably longer (deeper) than cobalt raqs. You should probably check the dimensions against those of your racks just in case. HP also make some nice 2U PII machines with NCR895 scsi, btw. Not sure what else is available. Of course the other option is to use embedded systems kit, tesys seems to have a fairly wide range. Stuart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 10:54: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C044514E51 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:54:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Received: from dbsys (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA15484; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:49:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199908311749.NAA15484@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:43:29 -0400 To: trouble@hackfurby.com From: Dennis Subject: Re: Cobalt like for FreeBSD? Cc: isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <37CC266A.9354E584@hackfurby.com> References: <199908311625.MAA15097@etinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 02:00 PM 8/31/99 -0500, you wrote: >Dennis, can i ask what your products have to do with a cobalt raq, absolutly >nothing, they are router/filtering products now low level server produsts >like was originally requested, such as the raq 2, why dount you takje that 1 >u case and install a straight FreeBSD system on it slap in a ethernet >interface and then re-post to the group. instead of trying to sell routers >and networking solutions, when they were looking for a server They are 1U boxes with 2 or 5 ethernets with apache and full unix OS, which is substantially similar to the RAQ2+ units. >> We sell Freebsd/linux routers in a 1U case....also 1 to 5 ethernet port >> units with bandwidth management and apache. So what is a RAQ2+ but a 2 ethernet port 1U server with a web server? Router or server...its all a matter of perspective. Plus ours come with built-in bandwidth managerment and act as a transparent bridge. A server with multiple nics is a router. dennis Emerging Technologies, Inc. http://www.etinc.com ISA and PCI T1/T3/V35/HSSI Cards for FreeBSD and LINUX Multiport T1 and HSSI/T3 UNIX-based Routers Bandwidth Management Standalone Systems Bandwidth Management software for LINUX and FreeBSD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 11:44:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from kerouac.deepwell.com (deepwell.com [209.63.174.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F0A214FA4 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:44:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@deepwell.com) Received: (qmail 8425 invoked from network); 31 Aug 1999 19:26:15 -0000 Received: from proxy.dcomm.net (HELO terry) (209.63.175.10) by deepwell.com with SMTP; 31 Aug 1999 19:26:15 -0000 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990831112936.03e9bb80@mail1.dcomm.net> X-Sender: freebsd@mail.deepwell.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:33:13 -0700 To: , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Deepwell Internet Subject: Re: Cobalt like for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: References: <37CBE68C.A5E72C26@eclipse.net.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At Linuxworld I picked up 2 copies of NetMAX, one for a 2.0.xx Linux kernel and one for FreeBSD 3.2. I have yet to work with either. As far as I understood it, NetMAX was just a stock FreeBSD distribution with added benefit for installation. Is this not correct? At 10:55 AM 8/31/99 -0400, you wrote: >On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > > > Is there anything out there that would compete with Cobalt's RAQs with > > > FreeBSD? > > > > Yep, netmax (for the management interface, which would be built in to > > the cobalt boxes), you should be able to pick up a 1U case from Tesys or > > Penguin. That way you are also on much more standard hardware (unlike > > the Cobalts which istr use a MIPS cpu). > > From what I can find, Netmax is strictly for Linux... > >James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor >up@3.am http://3.am >========================================================================= >ISPF 3 - The Forum for ISPs by ISPs(tm) || Nov 15-17, 1999, New Orleans >3 days of clues, news, and views from the industry's best and brightest. > Visit for information and registration. >========================================================================= > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 12:16:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proteus.eclipse.net.uk (proteus.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049AE151E3 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:16:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by proteus.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A1F99B10; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:16:19 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37CC2A8E.439F5539@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:18:38 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bill Vermillion Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Suggestion on best filtering tool References: <199908311635.MAA81227@bilver.magicnet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > The machine need to conform to a politically correct environment. > Current talk is for use NT with a subscrption service and program > that is updated regularly from the vendors site. > > Anything similar in BSD land. If it's there I just haven't looked > in all the places - and there are many - but I looked where I > thought they would might be. You can find Linux or BSDI versions of some filtering software (smartfilter comes to mind, although the squid redirector I tried under Linux emulation wasn't happy on our 3.2-release cache). I think you'll find most of the URL-to-filter listings are rather poor. You should expect to find many missed sites and false positives. See peacefire.org (anti) and filteringfacts.org (pro). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 12:27:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from zoe.iserve.net (zoe.iserve.net [207.250.219.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C1EA1511A for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:27:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rch@iserve.net) Received: from acidic (acidic.iserve.net [207.250.219.40]) by zoe.iserve.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA08020; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:26:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199908311926.OAA08020@zoe.iserve.net> X-Sender: rch@iserve.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:30:25 -0500 To: Dennis , trouble@hackfurby.com From: Robert Hough Subject: Re: Cobalt like for FreeBSD? Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199908311749.NAA15484@etinc.com> References: <37CC266A.9354E584@hackfurby.com> <199908311625.MAA15097@etinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 12:43 PM 08/31/1999 -0400, Dennis wrote: >A server with multiple nics is a router. Hehe, thats funny - I had 2 nics in my win95 machine, and it was definately not a router. :) __ _______ |__| __|.-----.----.--.--.-----. .--------------------------------. | |__ || -__| _| | | -__| | Robert Hough (rch@iserve.net) | |__|_______||_____|__| \___/|_____| | 317-802-3036 -/- 317-876-0846 | ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 12:33: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from c004.sfo.cp.net (c004-h005.c004.sfo.cp.net [209.228.14.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D243415333 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:33:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jason@intercom.com) Received: (cpmta 13883 invoked from network); 31 Aug 1999 12:33:00 -0700 Received: from shagalicious.com (HELO intercom.com) (206.98.165.250) by smtp.intercom.com with SMTP; 31 Aug 1999 12:33:00 -0700 X-Sent: 31 Aug 1999 19:33:00 GMT Message-ID: <37CC2E3B.71D6FA29@intercom.com> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:34:19 -0400 From: "Jason J. Horton" Organization: Intercom Online Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Hough Cc: Dennis , trouble@hackfurby.com, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cobalt like for FreeBSD? References: <37CC266A.9354E584@hackfurby.com> <199908311625.MAA15097@etinc.com> <199908311926.OAA08020@zoe.iserve.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Robert Hough wrote: > > At 12:43 PM 08/31/1999 -0400, Dennis wrote: > >A server with multiple nics is a router. > > Hehe, thats funny - I had 2 nics in my win95 machine, and it was definately > not a router. :) nor is a win95 machine a server.... -- -Jason J. Horton Moving Target Intercom Online Inc. 212.376.7440 ext 21 | http://www.intercom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 12:35:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from kerouac.deepwell.com (deepwell.com [209.63.174.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7AF51157E1 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:35:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@deepwell.com) Received: (qmail 11609 invoked from network); 31 Aug 1999 20:18:53 -0000 Received: from proxy.dcomm.net (HELO terry) (209.63.175.10) by deepwell.com with SMTP; 31 Aug 1999 20:18:53 -0000 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990831122505.01a09ef0@mail1.dcomm.net> X-Sender: freebsd@mail.deepwell.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:25:41 -0700 To: Robert Hough , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Deepwell Internet Subject: Re: Cobalt like for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <199908311926.OAA08020@zoe.iserve.net> References: <199908311749.NAA15484@etinc.com> <37CC266A.9354E584@hackfurby.com> <199908311625.MAA15097@etinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What was it serving? At 02:30 PM 8/31/99 -0500, you wrote: >At 12:43 PM 08/31/1999 -0400, Dennis wrote: > >A server with multiple nics is a router. > >Hehe, thats funny - I had 2 nics in my win95 machine, and it was definately >not a router. :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 12:37:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from kerouac.deepwell.com (deepwell.com [209.63.174.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EA81615A41 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:37:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@deepwell.com) Received: (qmail 11713 invoked from network); 31 Aug 1999 20:20:57 -0000 Received: from proxy.dcomm.net (HELO terry) (209.63.175.10) by deepwell.com with SMTP; 31 Aug 1999 20:20:57 -0000 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990831122614.01b5ef00@mail1.dcomm.net> X-Sender: freebsd@mail.deepwell.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:27:49 -0700 To: Len Conrad , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Deepwell Internet Subject: Re: Cobalt like for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19990831205535.01eeaeb0@go2france.com> References: <4.2.0.58.19990831112936.03e9bb80@mail1.dcomm.net> <37CBE68C.A5E72C26@eclipse.net.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, now I'm interested in it. I took a look at it and noticed it was missing support for being a DNS server. Does the RaQ support this? What's everyones general impression of NetMAX? At 08:56 PM 8/31/99 +0200, you wrote: >>At Linuxworld I picked up 2 copies of NetMAX, one for a 2.0.xx Linux >>kernel and one for FreeBSD 3.2. I have yet to work with either. As far >>as I understood it, NetMAX was just a stock FreeBSD distribution with >>added benefit for installation. Is this not correct? > >No, NetMAX is a complete web-based control application for several >functions of a machine, way beyond just installation support. > >Len > > > > > > > >>At 10:55 AM 8/31/99 -0400, you wrote: >>>On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, Stuart Henderson wrote: >>> >>> > > Is there anything out there that would compete with Cobalt's RAQs with >>> > > FreeBSD? >>> > >>> > Yep, netmax (for the management interface, which would be built in to >>> > the cobalt boxes), you should be able to pick up a 1U case from Tesys or >>> > Penguin. That way you are also on much more standard hardware (unlike >>> > the Cobalts which istr use a MIPS cpu). >>> >>> From what I can find, Netmax is strictly for Linux... >>> >>>James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor >>>up@3.am http://3.am >>>========================================================================= >>>ISPF 3 - The Forum for ISPs by ISPs(tm) || Nov 15-17, 1999, New Orleans >>>3 days of clues, news, and views from the industry's best and brightest. >>> Visit for information and registration. >>>========================================================================= >>> >>> >>> >>>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>>with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >> >> >> >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 12:46:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from zoe.iserve.net (zoe.iserve.net [207.250.219.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AADD14EA9 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:46:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rch@iserve.net) Received: from acidic (acidic.iserve.net [207.250.219.40]) by zoe.iserve.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA09196; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:46:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199908311946.OAA09196@zoe.iserve.net> X-Sender: rch@iserve.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:49:59 -0500 To: Deepwell Internet , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Robert Hough Subject: Re: Cobalt like for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19990831122505.01a09ef0@mail1.dcomm.net> References: <199908311926.OAA08020@zoe.iserve.net> <199908311749.NAA15484@etinc.com> <37CC266A.9354E584@hackfurby.com> <199908311625.MAA15097@etinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 12:25 PM 08/31/1999 -0700, Deepwell Internet wrote: >What was it serving? From time to time, I run the personal web server. :) I'm currently running a shoutcast server, and an ftp server - thus it is now serving... :) __ _______ |__| __|.-----.----.--.--.-----. .--------------------------------. | |__ || -__| _| | | -__| | Robert Hough (rch@iserve.net) | |__|_______||_____|__| \___/|_____| | 317-802-3036 -/- 317-876-0846 | ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 13:15: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from kermit.empireone.net (kermit.empireone.net [207.111.39.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5701015910 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:14:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@empireone.net) Received: from jrsysadmin (jrsysadmin.empireone.net [209.118.194.236]) by kermit.empireone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA15522; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:13:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <012001bedb91$5e3dc580$ecc276d1@empireone.net> From: "James F. Ruffer III" To: "Evren Yurtesen" , References: <01BEF3D4.62BFB5E0.support@junglenote.com> <37CC0320.705EFF4B@tatnet.com> <00ce01bedb6c$40640440$ecc276d1@empireone.net> <37CC0952.FDB7916E@ispro.net.tr> Subject: Re: adduser Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 16:14:59 -0400 Organization: unixbox.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org basically i was using edquota -p Quota username this wil set it to a standard 20 mb soft 30 mb hard im looking to set everyone at a 50 soft 60 hard auto while adduser is running i was being lazy by seeing if some one had a script already but i gues iill have to code one thankyou guys+dolls ----- Original Message ----- From: Evren Yurtesen To: James F. Ruffer III ; Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 12:56 PM Subject: Re: adduser > why do not you put a line to adduser script something like > edquota -p 100 $UID > well I am not sure what is the variable for UID in adduser script > though, > this would copy the quota settings of the account with uid 100 to the > new account > created...I believe this works even when you do not have an account with > the > $UID because I did something like edquota -p 100 1000-10000 > and now all the users have the same quotas automatically when I add them > > is this what you want to do? > > Evren > > "James F. Ruffer III" wrote: > > > hmm does anyone have a great adduser program that wil set repquota > > while adding the user > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 13:21:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F3DA15910 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:21:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Received: from dbsys (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA16120; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:17:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199908312017.QAA16120@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:11:42 -0400 To: Robert Hough From: Dennis Subject: Re: Cobalt like for FreeBSD? Cc: isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199908311926.OAA08020@zoe.iserve.net> References: <199908311749.NAA15484@etinc.com> <37CC266A.9354E584@hackfurby.com> <199908311625.MAA15097@etinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 02:30 PM 8/31/99 -0500, you wrote: >At 12:43 PM 08/31/1999 -0400, Dennis wrote: >>A server with multiple nics is a router. > >Hehe, thats funny - I had 2 nics in my win95 machine, and it was definately >not a router. :) nor is win95 a server. DB > > > __ _______ >|__| __|.-----.----.--.--.-----. .--------------------------------. >| |__ || -__| _| | | -__| | Robert Hough (rch@iserve.net) | >|__|_______||_____|__| \___/|_____| | 317-802-3036 -/- 317-876-0846 | >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 13:24:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A597915433 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:24:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Received: from dbsys (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA16131; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:19:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199908312019.QAA16131@etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:13:34 -0400 To: Deepwell Internet From: Dennis Subject: Re: Cobalt like for FreeBSD? Cc: isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19990831112936.03e9bb80@mail1.dcomm.net> References: <37CBE68C.A5E72C26@eclipse.net.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 11:33 AM 8/31/99 -0700, you wrote: >At Linuxworld I picked up 2 copies of NetMAX, one for a 2.0.xx Linux kernel >and one for FreeBSD 3.2. I have yet to work with either. As far as I >understood it, NetMAX was just a stock FreeBSD distribution with added >benefit for installation. Is this not correct? no, netmax is a commercial front end gui. $500 or so per box. Dennis > > >At 10:55 AM 8/31/99 -0400, you wrote: >>On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, Stuart Henderson wrote: >> >> > > Is there anything out there that would compete with Cobalt's RAQs with >> > > FreeBSD? >> > >> > Yep, netmax (for the management interface, which would be built in to >> > the cobalt boxes), you should be able to pick up a 1U case from Tesys or >> > Penguin. That way you are also on much more standard hardware (unlike >> > the Cobalts which istr use a MIPS cpu). >> >> From what I can find, Netmax is strictly for Linux... >> >>James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor >>up@3.am http://3.am >>========================================================================= >>ISPF 3 - The Forum for ISPs by ISPs(tm) || Nov 15-17, 1999, New Orleans >>3 days of clues, news, and views from the industry's best and brightest. >> Visit for information and registration. >>========================================================================= >> >> >> >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 13:27:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from seahorse.corp.gulf.net (seahorse.corp.gulf.net [206.105.61.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2EE515433 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:27:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phill@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (phill@localhost) by seahorse.corp.gulf.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27878; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:27:37 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: seahorse.corp.gulf.net: phill owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:27:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Phillip Salzman X-Sender: phill@seahorse.corp.gulf.net To: TrouBle Cc: Dennis , FreeBSD-ISP List Subject: Re: Cobalt like for FreeBSD? In-Reply-To: <37CC266A.9354E584@hackfurby.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chill. You did not have to send that to this list. It is _not_ freebsd-flame. -- Phillip Salzman phill@freebsd.org On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, TrouBle wrote: > Dennis, can i ask what your products have to do with a cobalt raq, absolutly > nothing, they are router/filtering products now low level server produsts > like was originally requested, such as the raq 2, why dount you takje that 1 > u case and install a straight FreeBSD system on it slap in a ethernet > interface and then re-post to the group. instead of trying to sell routers > and networking solutions, when they were looking for a server > > > > We sell Freebsd/linux routers in a 1U case....also 1 to 5 ethernet port > > units with bandwidth management and apache. > > > > www.etinc.com > > > > dennis > > Emerging Technologies, Inc. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 13:28:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from kerouac.deepwell.com (deepwell.com [209.63.174.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 052B015433 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:28:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@deepwell.com) Received: (qmail 14542 invoked from network); 31 Aug 1999 21:12:59 -0000 Received: from proxy.dcomm.net (HELO terry) (209.63.175.10) by deepwell.com with SMTP; 31 Aug 1999 21:12:59 -0000 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990831131659.03b126d0@mail1.dcomm.net> X-Sender: freebsd@mail.deepwell.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:19:49 -0700 To: "James F. Ruffer III" , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Deepwell Internet Subject: Re: adduser In-Reply-To: <012001bedb91$5e3dc580$ecc276d1@empireone.net> References: <01BEF3D4.62BFB5E0.support@junglenote.com> <37CC0320.705EFF4B@tatnet.com> <00ce01bedb6c$40640440$ecc276d1@empireone.net> <37CC0952.FDB7916E@ispro.net.tr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Using the quota program you can set quotas for a range of uids. I use this on a webserver we run. If the account is of a certain type I give them a uid in the 1000-3000 range. If it's another type of service then they get a 3000-6000 uid. You can establish that everyone between 1000 and 3000 gets a 10m quota and everyone 3000 - 6000 gets a 50m quota. The users don't have to be created at the time of establishing uid quotas At 04:14 PM 7/31/99 -0400, you wrote: >basically i was using >edquota -p Quota username >this wil set it to a standard 20 mb soft 30 mb hard >im looking to set everyone at a 50 soft 60 hard >auto while adduser is running >i was being lazy by seeing if some one had a script already but i gues iill >have to code one >thankyou guys+dolls >----- Original Message ----- >From: Evren Yurtesen >To: James F. Ruffer III ; >Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 12:56 PM >Subject: Re: adduser > > > > why do not you put a line to adduser script something like > > edquota -p 100 $UID > > well I am not sure what is the variable for UID in adduser script > > though, > > this would copy the quota settings of the account with uid 100 to the > > new account > > created...I believe this works even when you do not have an account with > > the > > $UID because I did something like edquota -p 100 1000-10000 > > and now all the users have the same quotas automatically when I add them > > > > is this what you want to do? > > > > Evren > > > > "James F. Ruffer III" wrote: > > > > > hmm does anyone have a great adduser program that wil set repquota > > > while adding the user > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 13:33:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from seahorse.corp.gulf.net (seahorse.corp.gulf.net [206.105.61.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED47E15A9A for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:33:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phill@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (phill@localhost) by seahorse.corp.gulf.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27894; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:34:41 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: seahorse.corp.gulf.net: phill owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:34:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Phillip Salzman X-Sender: phill@seahorse.corp.gulf.net To: "James F. Ruffer III" Cc: Evren Yurtesen , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: adduser In-Reply-To: <012001bedb91$5e3dc580$ecc276d1@empireone.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You may wish to check out Enteruser. There is an article about it at www.daemonnews.org. I've added functionality to it for setting quota's. It's extreamly simple. -- Phillip Salzman phill@freebsd.org On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, James F. Ruffer III wrote: > basically i was using > edquota -p Quota username > this wil set it to a standard 20 mb soft 30 mb hard > im looking to set everyone at a 50 soft 60 hard > auto while adduser is running > i was being lazy by seeing if some one had a script already but i gues iill > have to code one > thankyou guys+dolls > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Evren Yurtesen > To: James F. Ruffer III ; > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 12:56 PM > Subject: Re: adduser > > > > why do not you put a line to adduser script something like > > edquota -p 100 $UID > > well I am not sure what is the variable for UID in adduser script > > though, > > this would copy the quota settings of the account with uid 100 to the > > new account > > created...I believe this works even when you do not have an account with > > the > > $UID because I did something like edquota -p 100 1000-10000 > > and now all the users have the same quotas automatically when I add them > > > > is this what you want to do? > > > > Evren > > > > "James F. Ruffer III" wrote: > > > > > hmm does anyone have a great adduser program that wil set repquota > > > while adding the user > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 16:52: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cliff.i-plus.net (cliff.i-plus.net [209.100.20.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 001A714D0A for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:51:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from st@i-plus.net) Received: from ARCADIA (arcadia.i-plus.net [209.100.20.198]) by cliff.i-plus.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA01156 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:50:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "Troy Settle" To: Subject: WTB: Multi-port serial cards Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:50:42 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org There's other lists for this, but since you all run FreeBSD, I figured somone here could help me out. I'm looking for 2 or 3 ISA multi-port serial cards (8 port or better). These will be used in a pair of 486 boxes running 3.2-STABLE to act as console servers for various equipment (4048's, 2501's, csu's, etc..) If anyone has any surplus or knows of a cheap source, please email me off list. Thank you, Troy Settle iPlus Internet Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 18: 4:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from guardian.fortress.org (guardian-ext.fortress.org [199.202.137.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F0EE14FA4 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 18:04:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@guardian.fortress.org) Received: from localhost (andrew@localhost) by guardian.fortress.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA25816; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:01:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from andrew@guardian.fortress.org) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:01:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Webster Reply-To: andrew@pubnix.net To: Troy Settle Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WTB: Multi-port serial cards In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Check out Boca BB2016, 16 port card, about $200. On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, Troy Settle wrote: > > There's other lists for this, but since you all run FreeBSD, I figured > somone here could help me out. > > I'm looking for 2 or 3 ISA multi-port serial cards (8 port or better). > These will be used in a pair of 486 boxes running 3.2-STABLE to act as > console servers for various equipment (4048's, 2501's, csu's, etc..) > > If anyone has any surplus or knows of a cheap source, please email me off > list. > > > Thank you, > > Troy Settle > iPlus Internet Services > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > Andrew Webster andrew@pubnix.net PubNIX Inc. CF E8 16 B8 A6 DB E3 C9 83 E7 96 24 25 58 15 6E P.O. Box 147 Cote Saint Luc, Quebec H4V 2Y3 tel 514-990-5911 http://www.pubnix.net fax 514-990-9443 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 21:33: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from finland.ispro.net.tr (finland.ispro.net.tr [195.174.18.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D691547A for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:32:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from ispro.net.tr (dyn-4-199.tku.netti.fi [195.16.219.200]) by finland.ispro.net.tr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA33257; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 07:32:48 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Message-ID: <37CCAC11.7D11B2A2@ispro.net.tr> Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 07:31:13 +0300 From: Evren Yurtesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "James F. Ruffer III" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: adduser References: <01BEF3D4.62BFB5E0.support@junglenote.com> <37CC0320.705EFF4B@tatnet.com> <00ce01bedb6c$40640440$ecc276d1@empireone.net> <37CC0952.FDB7916E@ispro.net.tr> <012001bedb91$5e3dc580$ecc276d1@empireone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org well you can copy 1 users quota settings with the -p option and you can say to the edquota that copy this settings to the UIDs between 1000-5000 this is working I have tried :) when you use adduser script it is giving the next available UID so you wont have trouble if that UID is one of the UIDs between 1000-5000 "James F. Ruffer III" wrote: > basically i was using > edquota -p Quota username > this wil set it to a standard 20 mb soft 30 mb hard > im looking to set everyone at a 50 soft 60 hard > auto while adduser is running > i was being lazy by seeing if some one had a script already but i gues iill > have to code one > thankyou guys+dolls > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Evren Yurtesen > To: James F. Ruffer III ; > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 12:56 PM > Subject: Re: adduser > > > why do not you put a line to adduser script something like > > edquota -p 100 $UID > > well I am not sure what is the variable for UID in adduser script > > though, > > this would copy the quota settings of the account with uid 100 to the > > new account > > created...I believe this works even when you do not have an account with > > the > > $UID because I did something like edquota -p 100 1000-10000 > > and now all the users have the same quotas automatically when I add them > > > > is this what you want to do? > > > > Evren > > > > "James F. Ruffer III" wrote: > > > > > hmm does anyone have a great adduser program that wil set repquota > > > while adding the user > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 21:43:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.prophetnetworks.net (mail.prophetnetworks.net [63.71.252.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4DE615113 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:43:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bvaughn@prophetnetworks.net) Received: from shell01.prophetnetworks.net (bvaughn@shell01.prophetnetworks.net [63.71.252.10]) by mail.prophetnetworks.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA39404; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:49:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bvaughn@prophetnetworks.net) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:42:44 -0500 (EST) From: Ben Vaughn To: Evren Yurtesen Cc: "James F. Ruffer III" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: setquota.c (Re: adduser) In-Reply-To: <37CCAC11.7D11B2A2@ispro.net.tr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1278322869-936160964=:45567" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1278322869-936160964=:45567 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ive attached the source to setquota.c, a nifty prog that my friend dave kirchner wrote for freebsd because it needs it. Syntax is: setquota username 1M 5M filesystem with the numbers being variable and the M being optional. On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Evren Yurtesen wrote: > well you can copy 1 users quota settings with the -p option and > you can say to the edquota that copy this settings to the UIDs between > 1000-5000 this is working I have tried :) > > when you use adduser script it is giving the next available UID so > you wont have trouble if that UID is one of the UIDs between 1000-5000 > > > "James F. Ruffer III" wrote: > > > basically i was using > > edquota -p Quota username > > this wil set it to a standard 20 mb soft 30 mb hard > > im looking to set everyone at a 50 soft 60 hard > > auto while adduser is running > > i was being lazy by seeing if some one had a script already but i gues iill > > have to code one > > thankyou guys+dolls > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Evren Yurtesen > > To: James F. Ruffer III ; > > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 12:56 PM > > Subject: Re: adduser > > > > > why do not you put a line to adduser script something like > > > edquota -p 100 $UID > > > well I am not sure what is the variable for UID in adduser script > > > though, > > > this would copy the quota settings of the account with uid 100 to the > > > new account > > > created...I believe this works even when you do not have an account with > > > the > > > $UID because I did something like edquota -p 100 1000-10000 > > > and now all the users have the same quotas automatically when I add them > > > > > > is this what you want to do? > > > > > > Evren > > > > > > "James F. Ruffer III" wrote: > > > > > > > hmm does anyone have a great adduser program that wil set repquota > > > > while adding the user > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > --0-1278322869-936160964=:45567 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name="setquota.c" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: setquota Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="setquota.c" LyogKGMpIGRwayAqLw0KDQojaW5jbHVkZSA8c3lzL3R5cGVzLmg+DQojaW5j bHVkZSA8dWZzL3Vmcy9xdW90YS5oPg0KI2luY2x1ZGUgPHB3ZC5oPg0KDQpp bnQNCm1haW4gKGludCBhcmdjLCBjaGFyICphcmd2W10pIHsNCglzdHJ1Y3QJ cGFzc3dkCSpwdzsNCg0KCWludAl1aWQ7DQoJaW50CXNvZnRibG9ja3MgPSAw Ow0KCWludAloYXJkYmxvY2tzID0gMDsNCg0KCWNoYXIJKm1udHBvaW50Ow0K CWNoYXIJKnNvZnRxdW90YTsNCgljaGFyCSpoYXJkcXVvdGE7DQoNCglzdHJ1 Y3QgZHFibGsgKmJsb2NrX2M7DQoJY2hhciAqYmxvY2sgPSAoY2hhciAqKWJs b2NrX2M7DQoNCglpZiAoYXJnYyAhPSA1KSB7DQoJCXByaW50ZiAoInVzYWdl OiAlcyB1c2VybmFtZSBzb2Z0cXVvdGEgaGFyZHF1b3RhIG1vdW50cG9pbnRc biIsIGFyZ3ZbMF0pOw0KCQlyZXR1cm4gKDEpOw0KCX0NCg0KCXB3ID0gZ2V0 cHduYW0gKGFyZ3ZbMV0pOw0KCWlmICghcHcpIHsNCgkJcHJpbnRmICgiTm8g c3VjaCB1c2VyOiAlc1xuIiwgYXJndlsxXSk7DQoJCXJldHVybiAoMSk7DQoJ fQ0KCXVpZCA9IHB3LT5wd191aWQ7DQoNCglzb2Z0cXVvdGEgPSBhcmd2WzJd Ow0KCWhhcmRxdW90YSA9IGFyZ3ZbM107DQoJbW50cG9pbnQgPSBhcmd2WzRd Ow0KDQoJc29mdGJsb2NrcyA9IHBhcnNldGhpbmd5IChzb2Z0cXVvdGEpOw0K CWhhcmRibG9ja3MgPSBwYXJzZXRoaW5neSAoaGFyZHF1b3RhKTsNCg0KCWlm IChzb2Z0YmxvY2tzID4gaGFyZGJsb2Nrcykgew0KCQlwcmludGYgKCJFcnJv cjogc29mdGJsb2NrcyA+IGhhcmRibG9ja3NcbiIpOw0KCQlyZXR1cm4gKDIp Ow0KCX0NCg0KCWJsb2NrX2MtPmRxYl9ic29mdGxpbWl0ID0gc29mdGJsb2Nr czsNCglibG9ja19jLT5kcWJfYmhhcmRsaW1pdCA9IGhhcmRibG9ja3M7DQoJ YmxvY2tfYy0+ZHFiX2lzb2Z0bGltaXQgPSAwOw0KCWJsb2NrX2MtPmRxYl9p aGFyZGxpbWl0ID0gMDsNCg0KCWlmIChxdW90YWN0bCAobW50cG9pbnQsIFFD TUQoUV9TRVRRVU9UQSwwKSwgdWlkLCBibG9jaykgPCAwKSB7DQoJCXBlcnJv ciAoInF1b3RhY3RsIik7DQoJfQ0KfQ0KDQppbnQNCnBhcnNldGhpbmd5IChj aGFyICpxdW90YSkgew0KCWludAlkb25lID0gMDsNCglpbnQJYmxvY2tzID0g MDsNCgl3aGlsZSAoKnF1b3RhICYmICFkb25lKSB7DQoJCWlmICgqcXVvdGEg PiA0NyAmJiAqcXVvdGEgPCA1OCkgew0KCQkJYmxvY2tzICo9IDEwOw0KCQkJ YmxvY2tzICs9ICpxdW90YSAtIDQ4Ow0KCQl9DQoJCWlmICgqcXVvdGEgPT0g J20nIHx8ICpxdW90YSA9PSAnTScpIHsNCgkJCWJsb2NrcyAqPSAxMDI0Ow0K CQkJZG9uZSA9IDE7IC8qIGR1bXAgdGhlIGNoYXJzIGFmdGVyICdtJyAqLw0K CQl9DQoJCXF1b3RhKys7DQoJfQ0KCWJsb2NrcyAqPSAyOw0KCXJldHVybiAo YmxvY2tzKTsNCn0NCg== --0-1278322869-936160964=:45567-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 31 23:19:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.calweb.com (mail.calweb.com [209.210.251.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D5CB15A64 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:19:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ianj@calweb.com) Received: from staff.calweb.com (ianj@staff.calweb.com [209.210.251.15]) by mail.calweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA25484 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:19:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (ianj@localhost) by staff.calweb.com (8.9.2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA14362 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:19:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: staff.calweb.com: ianj owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:19:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ian R. Justman" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: FrontPage 2000 extensions + Apache 1.3.[69] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, all. I've been tearing my hair out at the roots trying to figure out why per-user webs won't work on this prototype FP2K server I am setting up for work. I use the VR4 patch by Gregory A. Lundberg which make very thorough security checks like SuEXEC does. Using this patch with FP2K extensions, I get this in C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\WECERR.TXT (or as a dialog in FP itself): 08/31/99 22:43:09 Server error: You cannot open a web at, or create a subweb beneath, the URL "/~ianj", because it is an alias. Use the full URL instead. I tell the server to use FP98 extensions, along with "upgrading" all the webs to FP98, it works fine both on the root web and per-user webs. I was sure to add the AllowOverride All line for the hierarchy which has the users' webspaces. The hierarchy looks something like this on our current web server: /www/home/users/x/xyz x is the first letter of the user's username, then xyz is the username. This would be the path to the user's home directory. Then the UserDir directive would look like: UserDir . Even when I call fpsrvadm.exe from the command line to install a per-user subweb, I get that error. I'm convinced that either my configs are broken as far as FP2K's concerned, and I don't know what, or the extensions are brain-damaged in the 2000 edition. I have confirmed this problem on two different platforms, FreeBSD and Linux. I have also heard about people using both sets of extensions (FP98 and 2K) on the same server. Is this even possible? Anyway, I'm fit to be tied on this one... I'll start from Square One with RTR's original patches if I have to. --Ian. --- Ian R. Justman (ianj@calweb.com) UNIX System Administrator and Postmaster, CalWeb Internet Services, Inc. Office: (916) 641-9320 Finger ianj@calweb.com for my public PGP key. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 1 0:59:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gdr.dhis.org (tm56.hypermax.net.au [203.46.36.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A97614D29 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 00:59:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phil@ozxpress.com.au) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by gdr.dhis.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA29797; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:18:02 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from phil@ozxpress.com.au) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:18:02 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199909010218.MAA29797@gdr.dhis.org> X-Authentication-Warning: raven.gdr.dhis.org: nobody set sender to phil@ozxpress.com.au using -f From: phil grainger To: support@junglenote.com, Dan Larsson Reply-To: phil grainger Cc: "[FreeBSD-ISP-List] (E-post)" References: <01BEF3D4.62BFB5E0.support@junglenote.com> In-Reply-To: <01BEF3D4.62BFB5E0.support@junglenote.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP3 Imap webMail Program 2.0.10 Subject: Re: store pages in database Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org have a look at www.midgard-project.org this supports multiple user/groups editing web sites allows users to upload html code from their web based admin tool etc. only problem is that it needs porting to f-bsd... phil Quoting Dan Larsson : > This might be offtopic, if so for that I apologize. > > I intend t create a html (php etc...) page where the editor uploads his/her > > article (pure html - no graphics) to the script which then stores it in > a database. Has anyone else attempted to do this or even are there > ready to run solutions for this? > > Thanks! > > /D > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > phil grainger ozxpress.com.au user support services ----------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://web.horde.org/imp/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 1 3:40: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proteus.eclipse.net.uk (proteus.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A531214C22 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 03:40:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by proteus.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D4C59B0B; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 11:39:57 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37CD0309.B1BF1085@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 11:42:17 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Deepwell Internet Cc: Len Conrad , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cobalt like for FreeBSD? References: <4.2.0.58.19990831112936.03e9bb80@mail1.dcomm.net> <37CBE68C.A5E72C26@eclipse.net.uk> <4.2.0.58.19990831122614.01b5ef00@mail1.dcomm.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Well, now I'm interested in it. I took a look at it and noticed it was > missing support for being a DNS server. Does the RaQ support this? > What's everyones general impression of NetMAX? It's probably best to have a play with their test server and make your own impressions, http://www.netmax.com/Products/demo.html. DNS is in the network section on their demo (the machines, domains, and DNS entries). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 1 4:48: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from charma.uprm.edu (charma.UPR.CLU.EDU [136.145.164.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B23215963 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 04:47:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kennie@uprm.edu) Received: by charma.uprm.edu (5.65v4.0/1.1.19.2/16Mar99-0506PM) id AA10130; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 07:47:08 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 07:47:08 -0400 From: Kennie J.Cruz Gutierrez Message-Id: <199909011147.AA10130@charma.uprm.edu> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org unsubscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 1 5:12: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [207.239.68.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D22A14DCB for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 05:11:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsdlist@federation.addy.com) Received: from localhost (fbsdlist@localhost) by federation.addy.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA09528 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 08:10:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 08:10:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Cliff Addy To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Sprint vs Quest Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We've become thoroughly disgusted with Digex as our T1 provider since they were bought by Intermedia. We've narrowed down their replacement as either Sprint or Quest. Anyone have any experiences they'd like to share? Cliff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 1 6:19: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from arutam.inch.com (ns.inch.com [207.240.140.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E59D314D8D for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 06:18:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freyes@inch.com) Received: from win98 (freyes.static.inch.com [207.240.212.43]) by arutam.inch.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/UTIL-INCH-2.0.0) with SMTP id JAA23859; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 09:16:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199909011316.JAA23859@arutam.inch.com> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "Deepwell Internet" , "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" , "up@3.am" Cc: "apauker@cybernet.com" , "mtaylor@cybernet.com" Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 09:17:10 -0400 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Professional (2.01.1600) For Windows 98 (4.10.1998) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Cobalt like for FreeBSD? Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:33:13 -0700, Deepwell Internet wrote: >...understood it, NetMAX was just a stock FreeBSD distribution with added >benefit for installation. Is this not correct? Netmax is much more than just "an installation tool". It is also more than a front end GUI. Perhaps the best way to describe it, is to compare it to a true Front End Gui:webmin. With webmin one installs FreeBSD, then you install whatever packages/ports you want to run and then you install webmin. You are basically on your own when it comes to the installation of FreeBSD, the ports/packages and webmin. It is also worth mentioning that Webmin is really more of a helper than a total solution. Just recently I spent days getting Samba to work just right.. I tried to use Webmin to help basically ended up troubleshooting and making the correction by hand. I see Webmin as a management helper, but it really doesn't help much with initial installs/configurations of the package you want to manage. On the other end Netmax integrates everything in such a way that once you install Netmax all it's functions are managed/installed through the Netmax GUI. From memory.. netmax can manage your DNS, email (pop and imap), ftp, ldap, smb (samba), the mac protocol (although I have never tried it), and Firewall. There have been minor issues that Netmax did not have when I got it, but from email I have received they have been added/corrected (i.e. name based virtual hosting). One point worth mentioning is that when you get Netmax you get a first rate team of people to help you. I have had a number of issues when I was installting Netmax, many of which had nothing to do with netmax , and they helped me to get the product installed. They have also helped me to get anything I needed which the the version of Netmax I got did not do. The online Demo gives a good idea of what Netmax can do, but I don't think one can really appreciate it's ease of use and power until one has one installed. >At 10:55 AM 8/31/99 -0400, you wrote: >>On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, Stuart Henderson wrote: >> >> > Yep, netmax (for the management interface, which would be built in to >> >> From what I can find, Netmax is strictly for Linux... >>James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor >>up@3.am http://3.am This "for Linux only" image is something I have mentioned the folks at Cybernet several times (ok more than several times...). They were a lot more receptive than I had expected and they did some work on the site to reflect this. I also got a very positive reply in terms of their continued support for FreeBSD. As a company they are truly first rate and all the people I have ever exchanged emails or talked to, both from the marketting and technical side, have been very helpful. Is Netmax for you? Well when I got Netmax for months I wrote to Cybernet complaining about things I wanted/needed to do which Netmax did not do. Although I don't have the latest/greatest version, which I believe is not out yet, I have been told they have fixed/added a number of the things I complained/requested. I particular the version I had out of the box, did not support very well virtualizing domains (http, ftp). With the help of tech support I was able to do the http name virtualizing behind the scenes and that has worked well. Something else I mentioned to them is the need to incorporate PHP or to somehow allow for MOD PHP in a simpler way. I am currently working on compiling Apache with MOD PHP and saving it at a separate directory to handle all external http requests. Something else which even though is very good could use some improvement is the firewall configuration. If you ever try netmax and you are familiar with firewall rules I highly recommend you DON'T even try using the pre-configured Firewall settings and use the "Custom" rules. On the other hand if you are new to firewalls you may want to start only with the pre-configured rules. Once you go to "custom rules" don't ever try to go back to use the pre-configured rules... Try looking at the online demo and you will see what I mean by "pre-configured" vs custome settings. Something else which I hope they have improved is the DNS server. It works, but it is just the basics. There are fine tuning features which are needed on the interface such as MX entries, DNS options settings (i.e. ttl). They could also make it simpler to setup a netmax box as a secondary server of a primary DNS. Their backup screens could also use some simplification. I tried once to use them and ran back to tar. . Yes I know dump is better, but I have been busy to configure it and since I already have a series of shells I use with Tar this was a quick way to get the backup going. Feel free to ask me any questions. Also notice the cc to Mark Taylor (mtaylor@cybernet.com). He works for Cybernet, the maker of Netmax, and he should be able to answer any questions you may have. In closing. Netmax is great, but if you expect to run a heavily virtualized site, or plan to have the netmax as part of a big comlext network YOU WILL need to get behind the scenes and get "your hands dirty". For a simple site, specially a small office network that needs Internet connectivty, Netmax should be able to do most tasks needed right from the interface. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 1 6:36:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AABD14DA5 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 06:36:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA07517; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 09:34:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 09:34:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Hovey To: Cliff Addy Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sprint vs Quest In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We switched from uunet to sprint - sprint is harder to call when there is a problem - but there is almost NEVER a problem. On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Cliff Addy wrote: > We've become thoroughly disgusted with Digex as our T1 provider since they > were bought by Intermedia. We've narrowed down their replacement as > either Sprint or Quest. Anyone have any experiences they'd like to share? > > Cliff > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 1 11:50:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from abatis.sweb.com (ip-140-066.gw.total-web.net [209.187.140.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3D2F15AB5 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 11:50:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zaph0d@sweb.com) Received: from localhost (zaph0d@localhost) by abatis.sweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA47557; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:48:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:48:54 -0400 (EDT) From: john To: Cliff Addy Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sprint vs Quest In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We use Qwest where i'm at, and I worked for Sprint for about a year in the ISC. Sprint is expensive, but with most people the service is good (theres always someone who has persistant troubles, for some reason). At this point, I have a hard time saying much good about Qwest, except a bunch of people that used to work with me work there now. :) On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Cliff Addy wrote: > We've become thoroughly disgusted with Digex as our T1 provider since they > were bought by Intermedia. We've narrowed down their replacement as > either Sprint or Quest. Anyone have any experiences they'd like to share? > > Cliff > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 1 12: 3:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from redbox.venux.net (redbox.venux.net [216.47.238.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD151150FA for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:03:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mitch@venux.net) Received: from inky (inky.venux.net [216.47.238.64]) by redbox.venux.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 5FA752E20B; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:59:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000601bef4ac$0d79f040$40ee2fd8@inky.venux.net> From: "Mitch Vincent" To: "john" , "Cliff Addy" Cc: Subject: Re: Sprint vs Quest Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:59:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It has been my experience that Sprint isn't expensive, they are and have always been the lowest priced upstream around me. I've found that depending on area, they can beat other's prices by as much as %50 (Regardless, they've *always* been lower than everyone else.). *shrug* that might just be them giving me a better deal than everyone else, but I seriously doubt I'm that special :-) -Mitch "When all your plans fail, backup, re-group and press on. The only real failure is quitting..." -----Original Message----- From: john To: Cliff Addy Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 2:52 PM Subject: Re: Sprint vs Quest >We use Qwest where i'm at, and I worked for Sprint for about a year in the >ISC. Sprint is expensive, but with most people the service is good (theres >always someone who has persistant troubles, for some reason). At this >point, I have a hard time saying much good about Qwest, except a bunch of >people that used to work with me work there now. :) > > > > > >On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Cliff Addy wrote: > >> We've become thoroughly disgusted with Digex as our T1 provider since they >> were bought by Intermedia. We've narrowed down their replacement as >> either Sprint or Quest. Anyone have any experiences they'd like to share? >> >> Cliff >> >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >> > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 1 12:34:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C564015559 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:34:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA25625; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:33:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:33:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Hovey To: Mitch Vincent Cc: john , Cliff Addy , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sprint vs Quest In-Reply-To: <000601bef4ac$0d79f040$40ee2fd8@inky.venux.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org No - they are the most expensive in this area - but we feel its MORE expensive to not be up consistantly. On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Mitch Vincent wrote: > It has been my experience that Sprint isn't expensive, they are and have > always been the lowest priced upstream around me. I've found that depending > on area, they can beat other's prices by as much as %50 (Regardless, they've > *always* been lower than everyone else.). > > *shrug* that might just be them giving me a better deal than everyone else, > but I seriously doubt I'm that special :-) > > -Mitch > > "When all your plans fail, backup, re-group and press on. The only real > failure is quitting..." > > -----Original Message----- > From: john > To: Cliff Addy > Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 2:52 PM > Subject: Re: Sprint vs Quest > > > >We use Qwest where i'm at, and I worked for Sprint for about a year in the > >ISC. Sprint is expensive, but with most people the service is good (theres > >always someone who has persistant troubles, for some reason). At this > >point, I have a hard time saying much good about Qwest, except a bunch of > >people that used to work with me work there now. :) > > > > > > > > > > > >On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Cliff Addy wrote: > > > >> We've become thoroughly disgusted with Digex as our T1 provider since > they > >> were bought by Intermedia. We've narrowed down their replacement as > >> either Sprint or Quest. Anyone have any experiences they'd like to > share? > >> > >> Cliff > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 1 12:44:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from abatis.sweb.com (ip-140-066.gw.total-web.net [209.187.140.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B432A15573 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:44:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zaph0d@sweb.com) Received: from localhost (zaph0d@localhost) by abatis.sweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA48340; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:43:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:43:43 -0400 (EDT) From: john To: Mitch Vincent Cc: Cliff Addy , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sprint vs Quest In-Reply-To: <000601bef4ac$0d79f040$40ee2fd8@inky.venux.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This isn't exactly proprietary information, but i've seen people paying as much as 1500 to 2000 a month for a 128kilobit connection. I have gotten quotes from Sprint for T1's that were over 3000 a month (!). Thats *excluding* loop charges from local telco. The cheapest Sprint T1 i've seen was for like 1750.. again, excluding local loop charges. I am sure that varies with the sales person, but the vast majority of connections i've seen from Sprint are very pricey, in the T1 or below range anyways. For ds3's and oc12's, it's gonna be pricey regardless. I guess once you're in the 100000+ range, 10 more grand doesn't really matter that much. But I can say from personal experience, their network monitoring center was pretty up on things usually. There were countless times we knew about and were working on an outage way before customers even knew about it. On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Mitch Vincent wrote: > It has been my experience that Sprint isn't expensive, they are and have > always been the lowest priced upstream around me. I've found that depending > on area, they can beat other's prices by as much as %50 (Regardless, they've > *always* been lower than everyone else.). > > *shrug* that might just be them giving me a better deal than everyone else, > but I seriously doubt I'm that special :-) > > -Mitch > > "When all your plans fail, backup, re-group and press on. The only real > failure is quitting..." > > -----Original Message----- > From: john > To: Cliff Addy > Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 2:52 PM > Subject: Re: Sprint vs Quest > > > >We use Qwest where i'm at, and I worked for Sprint for about a year in the > >ISC. Sprint is expensive, but with most people the service is good (theres > >always someone who has persistant troubles, for some reason). At this > >point, I have a hard time saying much good about Qwest, except a bunch of > >people that used to work with me work there now. :) > > > > > > > > > > > >On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Cliff Addy wrote: > > > >> We've become thoroughly disgusted with Digex as our T1 provider since > they > >> were bought by Intermedia. We've narrowed down their replacement as > >> either Sprint or Quest. Anyone have any experiences they'd like to > share? > >> > >> Cliff > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 1 13:29:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9781515518 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:29:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA29047; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 16:29:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 16:29:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Hovey To: john Cc: Mitch Vincent , Cliff Addy , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sprint vs Quest In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > But I can say from personal experience, their network monitoring center > was pretty up on things usually. There were countless times we knew about > and were working on an outage way before customers even knew about it. I can second that - ALMOST every time Ive called with a problem they already knew and were working on it. > > On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Mitch Vincent wrote: > > > It has been my experience that Sprint isn't expensive, they are and have > > always been the lowest priced upstream around me. I've found that depending > > on area, they can beat other's prices by as much as %50 (Regardless, they've > > *always* been lower than everyone else.). > > > > *shrug* that might just be them giving me a better deal than everyone else, > > but I seriously doubt I'm that special :-) > > > > -Mitch > > > > "When all your plans fail, backup, re-group and press on. The only real > > failure is quitting..." > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: john > > To: Cliff Addy > > Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > Date: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 2:52 PM > > Subject: Re: Sprint vs Quest > > > > > > >We use Qwest where i'm at, and I worked for Sprint for about a year in the > > >ISC. Sprint is expensive, but with most people the service is good (theres > > >always someone who has persistant troubles, for some reason). At this > > >point, I have a hard time saying much good about Qwest, except a bunch of > > >people that used to work with me work there now. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Cliff Addy wrote: > > > > > >> We've become thoroughly disgusted with Digex as our T1 provider since > > they > > >> were bought by Intermedia. We've narrowed down their replacement as > > >> either Sprint or Quest. Anyone have any experiences they'd like to > > share? > > >> > > >> Cliff > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 1 13:43:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from zoe.iserve.net (zoe.iserve.net [207.250.219.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1924154DA for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:43:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rch@iserve.net) Received: from acidic (acidic.iserve.net [207.250.219.40]) by zoe.iserve.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA07559 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:41:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199909012041.PAA07559@zoe.iserve.net> X-Sender: rch@iserve.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 15:45:28 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Robert Hough Subject: Re: Sprint vs Quest In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 08:10 AM 09/01/1999 -0400, Cliff Addy wrote: >We've become thoroughly disgusted with Digex as our T1 provider since they >were bought by Intermedia. We've narrowed down their replacement as >either Sprint or Quest. Anyone have any experiences they'd like to share? We have a line through Qwest now, and for the most part it has been rock solid. I wasn't too impressed with the latency though, but I think alot of that has to do with the silly way Ameritech installed the circuit. Since it's primary purpose is for backup, this isn't a major problem for us. I work for a different provider here in town, and they used Sprint, and had alot of problems with that line - though, this was about 3 years ago. I've heard alot of good things about Sprint myself, and they are definately a consideration for our next line. You cant rule out the fact that sprint most likely has much better peering arangements as well. Just my take on it, I would probably try to pitch them against each other, and get the best deal possible. :) __ _______ |__| __|.-----.----.--.--.-----. .--------------------------------. | |__ || -__| _| | | -__| | Robert Hough (rch@iserve.net) | |__|_______||_____|__| \___/|_____| | 317-802-3036 -/- 317-876-0846 | ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 1 13:49:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39B9C15A83 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:49:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA29978; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 16:48:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 16:48:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Hovey To: Robert Hough Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sprint vs Quest In-Reply-To: <199909012041.PAA07559@zoe.iserve.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Robert Hough wrote: > At 08:10 AM 09/01/1999 -0400, Cliff Addy wrote: > >We've become thoroughly disgusted with Digex as our T1 provider since they > >were bought by Intermedia. We've narrowed down their replacement as > >either Sprint or Quest. Anyone have any experiences they'd like to share? > > I work for a different provider here in town, and they used Sprint, and had > alot of problems with that line - though, this was about 3 years ago. I've Approx 3 years ago they had some evil growing pains/capacity issues, but even at that time outperformed UUNET which we left due to frequent outages, and frequent scheduled maintenance putting us down for hours at a time. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 1 14:13:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsd.kes.ee (bsd.kes.ee [194.204.27.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 26EC115529 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:13:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@ja.ee) Received: (qmail 18317 invoked from network); 1 Sep 1999 21:05:17 -0000 Received: from isdn-158.uninet.ee (HELO ja.ee) (194.204.19.186) by bsd.kes.ee with SMTP; 1 Sep 1999 21:05:17 -0000 Message-ID: <37CF90CA.93C8FC37@ja.ee> Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 12:11:38 +0300 From: Dan Hyvonen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: ftp proxy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! Can anybody recommend a ftp proxy package for FreeBSD 2.2.8 and up? Dan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 1 14:19:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from Samizdat.uucom.com (samizdat.uucom.com [198.202.217.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 595AA14F9B; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:19:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cshenton@uucom.com) Received: (from cshenton@localhost) by Samizdat.uucom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA16221; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 17:17:51 -0400 (EDT) To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Upgrade from 3.0-BETA to 3.2-STABLE: Pitfalls? User-Agent: SEMI/1.13.3 (Komaiko) FLIM/1.12.5 (Hirahata) Emacs/20.3 (i386-pc-solaris2.7) MULE/4.0 (HANANOEN) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.3 - "Komaiko") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Chris Shenton Date: 01 Sep 1999 17:17:51 -0400 Message-ID: Lines: 16 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I support an ISP with is running on a couple 3.0-BETA servers. Actually, it reports 3.0-CURRENT from October 1998. When we started, 3.0-RELEASE wasn't quite out and 2.2 didn't support the disk controllers. Now we finally want to get onto 3.2-STABLE. I've done "make worlds" on plenty of systems and rebuilt kernels. Usually no problem. Here I'm very concerned about elf vs. aout or library incompatibilities. There were also around that time some issues with the boot sector (?) needing to be marked some special way but I've forgotten. The ISP is 8 time zones away so I can't fix it if the make world and new kernel fail. What problems can I expect? Suggestions for avoiding them? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 1 16:30:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from magicnet.magicnet.net (magicnet.magicnet.net [204.96.116.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83AC914EDF for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 16:30:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@bilver.magicnet.net) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by magicnet.magicnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.8) with UUCP id TAA13076 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 19:27:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.magicnet.net (8.9.2/8.9.1) id TAA05187 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 19:04:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Vermillion Message-Id: <199909012304.TAA05187@bilver.magicnet.net> Subject: Re: Sprint vs Quest In-Reply-To: from john at "Sep 1, 1999 03:43:43 pm" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 19:02:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org john recently said: > This isn't exactly proprietary information, but i've seen > people paying as much as 1500 to 2000 a month for a 128kilobit > connection. I have gotten quotes from Sprint for T1's that were > over 3000 a month (!). Thats *excluding* loop charges from local > telco. The cheapest Sprint T1 i've seen was for like 1750.. again, > excluding local loop charges. That's a bit pricey. I work with a niche market ISP - no dialups at all - and they've found that you can go shopping for local connectivity if you are in a large enough metro area. We got a quote for local transport on a DS3 - full 45Mbit - for just about $2K. That's a damn cheap pipe. Filling it does cost more. We try to own and have billed to us - as many pieces of our pipeline as possibly - so we can get directly to the transport provider without have to call the service provider and have them call the tranport provider. Bill -- bv@wjv.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 1 16:32:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [207.239.68.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98FA815558 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 16:32:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsdlist@federation.addy.com) Received: from localhost (fbsdlist@localhost) by federation.addy.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA26879 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 19:31:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 19:31:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Cliff Addy To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sprint vs Quest In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, john wrote: > This isn't exactly proprietary information, but i've seen people paying as > much as 1500 to 2000 a month for a 128kilobit connection. I have gotten > quotes from Sprint for T1's that were over 3000 a month (!). Thats > *excluding* loop charges from local telco. The cheapest Sprint T1 i've > seen was for like 1750.. again, excluding local loop charges. Hmmm, we got a *dual* T1 for <$2000 a month, plus *really* cheap local loops. They made me a little nervous because they were the lowest bid, but I have yet to hear anything really bad. Our new dual will be around 40% less than what we're currently paying with InterMedia. And they, my friends, suck. Cliff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 1 16:33:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [207.239.68.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D80B7154AD for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 16:33:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsdlist@federation.addy.com) Received: from localhost (fbsdlist@localhost) by federation.addy.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA26953; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 19:33:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 19:33:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Cliff Addy To: Robert Hough Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sprint vs Quest In-Reply-To: <199909012041.PAA07559@zoe.iserve.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Robert Hough wrote: > Just my take on it, I would probably try to pitch them against each other, > and get the best deal possible. :) Yep, already shaved several hundred $$ a month doing so. Cliff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 1 16:42:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from kerouac.deepwell.com (deepwell.com [209.63.174.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8140D14EDB for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 16:42:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@deepwell.com) Received: (qmail 5997 invoked from network); 2 Sep 1999 00:26:10 -0000 Received: from proxy.dcomm.net (HELO terry) (209.63.175.10) by deepwell.com with SMTP; 2 Sep 1999 00:26:10 -0000 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990901163233.00cf1f00@mail1.dcomm.net> X-Sender: freebsd@mail.deepwell.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 16:34:13 -0700 To: eebsd.orgbsd-isp@frCliff Addy , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Deepwell Internet Subject: Re: Sprint vs Quest In-Reply-To: References: <199909012041.PAA07559@zoe.iserve.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is there a list for discussing telco's, local loops, pricing structures, and ISP's relations and/or positive/negative stories about telcos? I'm not asking to move this discussion, I'm just very interested in it and would like to see more. -Terry At 07:33 PM 9/1/99 -0400, you wrote: >On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Robert Hough wrote: > > > Just my take on it, I would probably try to pitch them against each other, > > and get the best deal possible. :) > >Yep, already shaved several hundred $$ a month doing so. > >Cliff > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 1 16:59: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.tcworks.net (ns.tcworks.net [216.61.218.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2843614D9D for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 16:59:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ccook@tcworks.net) Received: from tcworks.net (xcess@creed.tcworks.net [216.61.218.6]) by ns.tcworks.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA95357; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 19:00:26 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ccook@tcworks.net) Message-ID: <37CF0E9E.A1D16207@tcworks.net> Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 18:56:14 -0500 From: Chris Cook X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Deepwell Internet Cc: "eebsd.orgbsd-isp@frCliff Addy" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sprint vs Quest References: <199909012041.PAA07559@zoe.iserve.net> <4.2.0.58.19990901163233.00cf1f00@mail1.dcomm.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Deepwell Internet wrote: > > Is there a list for discussing telco's, local loops, pricing structures, > and ISP's relations and/or positive/negative stories about telcos? > > I'm not asking to move this discussion, I'm just very interested in it and > would like to see more. That would be a HUGE list...especially the positive/NEGATIVE stories about telcos.... It's a joke to order a circuit anymore. -- Chris Cook The Computer Works http://www.tcworks.net http://www.tcworks.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 1 17: 4:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from moat.teksupport.net.au (moat.teksupport.net.au [203.17.1.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD8A14D9D for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 17:04:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robseco@wizard.teksupport.net.au) Received: from magician.teksupport.net.au (magician.teksupport.net.au [192.168.1.2]) by moat.teksupport.net.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA05035 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:03:21 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from robseco@wizard.teksupport.net.au) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990902100320.00a2c100@moat-gw.teksupport.net.au> X-Sender: robseco@moat-gw.teksupport.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 10:03:20 +1000 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Rob Secombe Subject: Re: ftp proxy In-Reply-To: <37CF90CA.93C8FC37@ja.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 12:11 03-09-99 +0300, you wrote: >Hi! > >Can anybody recommend a ftp proxy package for FreeBSD 2.2.8 and up? > >Dan Hi, Check out Trusted Information Systems Firewall Toolkit. http://www.tis.com/ Cheers Rob. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 1 17:34: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from kerouac.deepwell.com (deepwell.com [209.63.174.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1F8F81555A for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 17:33:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@deepwell.com) Received: (qmail 8577 invoked from network); 2 Sep 1999 01:17:41 -0000 Received: from proxy.dcomm.net (HELO terry) (209.63.175.10) by deepwell.com with SMTP; 2 Sep 1999 01:17:41 -0000 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990901172253.020ca620@mail1.dcomm.net> X-Sender: freebsd@mail.deepwell.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 17:25:42 -0700 To: Chris Cook , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Deepwell Internet Subject: Re: Sprint vs Quest In-Reply-To: <37CF0E9E.A1D16207@tcworks.net> References: <199909012041.PAA07559@zoe.iserve.net> <4.2.0.58.19990901163233.00cf1f00@mail1.dcomm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes, it would! I have the hardest time getting lines provisioned correctly, etc. I was just wondering if there was a list like that I could turn to when I was looking for alternative bandwidth, etc. If there is enough interest I may be willing to host such a list (or group of lists more likely) At 06:56 PM 9/2/99 -0500, you wrote: >Deepwell Internet wrote: > > > > Is there a list for discussing telco's, local loops, pricing structures, > > and ISP's relations and/or positive/negative stories about telcos? > > > > I'm not asking to move this discussion, I'm just very interested in it and > > would like to see more. > >That would be a HUGE list...especially the positive/NEGATIVE stories >about telcos.... It's a joke to order a circuit anymore. > >-- >Chris Cook >The Computer Works >http://www.tcworks.net >http://www.tcworks.com > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 1 18:11: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from magicnet.magicnet.net (magicnet.magicnet.net [204.96.116.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E404A15175 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 18:11:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@bilver.magicnet.net) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by magicnet.magicnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.8) with UUCP id VAA02989 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 21:07:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.magicnet.net (8.9.2/8.9.1) id UAA06097 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 20:23:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Vermillion Message-Id: <199909020023.UAA06097@bilver.magicnet.net> Subject: Re: Sprint vs Quest In-Reply-To: <37CF0E9E.A1D16207@tcworks.net> from Chris Cook at "Sep 2, 1999 06:56:14 pm" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 20:22:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chris Cook recently said: > Deepwell Internet wrote: > > Is there a list for discussing telco's, local loops, pricing > > structures, and ISP's relations and/or positive/negative stories > > about telcos? > > I'm not asking to move this discussion, I'm just very interested > > in it and would like to see more. > That would be a HUGE list...especially the positive/NEGATIVE > stories about telcos.... It's a joke to order a circuit > anymore. See my note about pricing and buying the pipe in pieces not just through a major provider who takes it from end to end. We have a local CLEC that we work with, and we can get ISDN lines almost overnight, and about the same for his own fiber network, we can get T1's up in hours. When it comes to using other providers, if you have local tranports - eg not the local Bell or whatever it was before the breakup - you can get downright competitive pricing - and we've managed 2 to 3 day installs.. Get to know the providers, who the sales people are, and press hard for prices. It's a competive market out there so you can be surprised at how low it can go. -- bv@wjv.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 1 18:12:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from iohost.com (io001.iohost.com [209.189.124.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBD1615175 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 18:12:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randyk@ccsales.com) Received: from rknt2 (joe.hiper.net [206.111.55.146]) by iohost.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA14013; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 18:14:18 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990901180838.05077b30@ccsales.com> X-Sender: randyk@ccsales.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 18:08:38 -0700 To: Steve Hovey , Cliff Addy From: "Randy A. Katz" Subject: Re: Sprint vs Quest Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Qwest is impossible to call when there is a problem. They run their IP department like a half-baked phone company. The IP guys seem to do a lot of reboots and such when it is unnecessary...pretty hard to deal with when you have a full BGP peer and 20mbits going through them...it is a ds3. We just ordered an OC3 from Uunet. Digex has been sucking big time since Intermedia and their West Coast path almost killed us 5-6 months ago. Their support, HOWEVER, is the best I've seen!!! I can name around 10 people there and they are really good when you are in a bind. I was really depressed and probably lost part of my longevity when I found I could not rely on Digex/Intermedia as a transport...still have a burstable ds3 through them. Just got our new Verio ds3 connected also...I'm hoping that Verio and Uunet will make our network rock! At 09:34 AM 9/1/99 -0400, Steve Hovey wrote: > >We switched from uunet to sprint - sprint is harder to call when there is >a problem - but there is almost NEVER a problem. > >On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Cliff Addy wrote: > >> We've become thoroughly disgusted with Digex as our T1 provider since they >> were bought by Intermedia. We've narrowed down their replacement as >> either Sprint or Quest. Anyone have any experiences they'd like to share? >> >> Cliff >> >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >> > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Sep 1 18:54:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cliff.i-plus.net (cliff.i-plus.net [209.100.20.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C141515172 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 18:54:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from st@i-plus.net) Received: from abyss ([209.100.25.26]) by cliff.i-plus.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA95468 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 21:52:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Troy Settle" To: Subject: RE: Sprint vs Quest Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 21:54:10 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-reply-to: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We're on GTEI and Sprint... > This isn't exactly proprietary information, but i've seen people paying as > much as 1500 to 2000 a month for a 128kilobit connection. I have gotten > quotes from Sprint for T1's that were over 3000 a month (!). Thats > *excluding* loop charges from local telco. The cheapest Sprint T1 i've > seen was for like 1750.. again, excluding local loop charges. Don't quote me, but I believe we're paying <$2k for port+loop (full T1, ~250 miles) > But I can say from personal experience, their network monitoring center > was pretty up on things usually. There were countless times we knew about > and were working on an outage way before customers even knew about it. Their network monitoring center isn't quite that good. The availiable bandwdith on our Sprint T1 dropped to about 24kbp/s for nearly 45 minutes. I called their operations center, and they knew nothing about it, nor did they have any data concerning the incident. It was the next day when I finally got to talk to a cluefull noc guy and he dug through logs. Seems something with a FDDI ring went down for a short period of time, causing the interuption in bandwidth availiablity. In this case, it would have been better for us if the T1 had gone completely dead. How could Sprint NOT be informed of such an incident? My helpdesk people noticed the problem within about 2 minutes of the event. Other than that, Sprint has been *very* good to us. The router we're plugged into seems a little less than 100% reliable, but all but one problem went un-noticed. Troy Settle iPlus Internet Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 2 3:31:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from liberty.bulinfo.net (liberty.bulinfo.net [212.72.195.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E466B14D1E for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 03:30:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from krassi@bulinfo.net) Received: (qmail 12599 invoked from network); 2 Sep 1999 10:29:10 -0000 Received: from liberty.bulinfo.net (HELO bulinfo.net) (212.72.195.7) by liberty.bulinfo.net with SMTP; 2 Sep 1999 10:29:10 -0000 Message-ID: <37CE5175.DB285E70@bulinfo.net> Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 13:29:09 +0300 From: Krassimir Slavchev Organization: Bulinfo Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, bg, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: pppd & PAP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We use FreeBSD 2.2.8 to provide dial-up services. Clients logged in with PAP authorization. We use mgetty with /AutoPPP/ to invoke pppd. All works fine, but occurs following problem: when there is no connection outside our server to internet users can't logged in. After debuging we examinate that: pppd complete PAP athorization and write user in utmp file, wait and exit with HANGUP before inform the kernel of local and remote IP addresses and can't complete IPCP negotoation. We have 2 local DNS that are working without interuption and resolve all local addresses. Additional information: when clients are using terminal login the problem does not exist. Any hints will be helpfull Best regards Krassimir Slavchev To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 2 4:57:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proteus.eclipse.net.uk (proteus.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88CD415B86; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 04:57:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@octarine.org) Received: from octarine.org (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by proteus.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25779B08; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:56:59 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37CE66A2.77639ACD@octarine.org> Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 12:59:30 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Octarine X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Shenton Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Upgrade from 3.0-BETA to 3.2-STABLE: Pitfalls? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Here I'm very concerned about elf vs. aout or library > incompatibilities. There were also around that time some issues with > the boot sector (?) needing to be marked some special way but I've > forgotten. The ISP is 8 time zones away so I can't fix it if the make > world and new kernel fail. > > What problems can I expect? Suggestions for avoiding them? http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/UPDATING?rev=. Bootblocks and aout-to-elf info is around 19990106 There are some other changes to kernel config (particularly console/keyboard drivers) that may necessitate some changes when you rebuild the kernel (if the box won't run with a generic kernel that is an issue to look at before rather than after). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 2 7:31:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from kermit.empireone.net (kermit.empireone.net [207.111.39.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9145715BF4 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 07:31:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jrsysadmin@empireone.net) Received: from dragonlord (webmaster.empireone.net [209.118.194.233]) by kermit.empireone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA26986; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:30:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <012501bef568$64ae48e0$e9c276d1@empireone.net> From: "James" To: "Troy Settle" , References: Subject: freebsd working with bsdi Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:27:12 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org we are going t o have three unix machines working with a raid5 box the raid box will have bsdi on it anyonein this situation runn up against and problems? nfs does that play ok together To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 2 8:41:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from www.SLipmat.net (slipmat.net [216.4.88.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBA4C155B6 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 08:41:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian.scott@SLipmat.net) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.SLipmat.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA27448; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:40:45 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brian.scott@SLipmat.net) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:40:45 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199909021540.KAA27448@www.SLipmat.net> X-Authentication-Warning: www.SLipmat.net: nobody set sender to brian.scott@SLipmat.net using -f From: Brian Scott To: mailing list Reply-To: Brian Scott MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP3 Imap webMail Program 2.0.10 Subject: Quotas and Mail Spool Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm using sendmail w qpopper and have quotas set on /var/mail, problem is that it uses /var/mail to spool the mail to the user, so the users data doubles when they retreive their mail. I've searched the doc on popper and don't see anything that'll allow me to specify an alternative spool dir (just looking for a way to keep the users spooled mail from being counted in the quota), does anyone know of a safe popper that will allow me to do this, or does anyone have any other sugestions. thanks =] .o0 Brian McGowan 0o. Chief Network Administrator Worldnet Communications Inc. -=Powered by FreeBSD=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 2 8:47:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from unix.megared.net.mx (megamail.megared.com.mx [207.249.162.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B23155B6 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 08:47:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ales@megared.net.mx) Received: from ales (ales.megared.net.mx [207.249.163.252]) by unix.megared.net.mx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA47779; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:44:58 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ales@megared.net.mx) Message-ID: <013101bef55a$46c17d60$fca3f9cf@megared.net.mx> From: "Alejandro Ramirez" To: "Brian Scott" , "mailing list" References: <199909021540.KAA27448@www.SLipmat.net> Subject: RE: Quotas and Mail Spool Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:46:09 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Try this link, it will teach you how to spool mail to home directories, and it works very well: http://freebsd.peon.net/cgi-bin/tutorials.html.cgi?file=8 I hope this helps... Ales ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Scott To: mailing list Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 10:40 AM Subject: Quotas and Mail Spool > I'm using sendmail w qpopper and have quotas set on > /var/mail, problem is that it uses /var/mail to spool > the mail to the user, so the users data doubles when > they retreive their mail. I've searched the doc on > popper and don't see anything that'll allow me to > specify an alternative spool dir (just looking for a > way to keep the users spooled mail from being counted > in the quota), does anyone know of a safe popper that > will allow me to do this, or does anyone have any other > sugestions. > > thanks =] > > .o0 Brian McGowan 0o. > > Chief Network Administrator > Worldnet Communications Inc. > -=Powered by FreeBSD=- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 2 9:17: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proteus.eclipse.net.uk (proteus.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554AD15BC7 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 09:16:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by proteus.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52B39B16; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 17:15:50 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37CEA34D.801D16A@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 17:18:21 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brian Scott Cc: mailing list Subject: Re: Quotas and Mail Spool References: <199909021540.KAA27448@www.SLipmat.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I'm using sendmail w qpopper and have quotas set on > /var/mail, problem is that it uses /var/mail to spool popper has a compile option to stop it from copying the spool each time, alternatively other pop3 daemons include qpop3d, gnu pop3d (was IDS pop3d), Solar Designer pop3d, and cucipop. -sh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 2 9:53: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail-smtp.socket.net (mail-smtp.socket.net [216.106.1.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4966714DD1 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 09:52:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vaevictus@socket.net) Received: from mail.socket.net (mail.socket.net [216.106.1.7]) by mail-smtp.socket.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA13376 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:50:07 -0500 Received: from tcc ([216.106.0.22]) by mail.socket.net ; Thu, 02 Sep 1999 10:34:43 -0600 From: "Vaevictus Asmadi" To: Subject: Proxy Firewalling Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:50:13 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In Greg's book, The Complete Freebsd, it makes mention of proxy firewalling, routing and translating packets based on the packet's info/source. Does anyone have any info or examples or tutorials or experience with this? What i'm needing to do is (based on the source IP) route either to my web proxy or to my web-filter proxy. Any Ideas where to take this? Vaevictus To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 2 10:17: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com (pau-amma.whistle.com [207.76.205.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A514A15B89 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:16:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id KAA20093; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:16:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:16:12 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <199909021716.KAA20093@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, vaevictus@socket.net Subject: Re: Proxy Firewalling In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >From: "Vaevictus Asmadi" >Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:50:13 -0500 >In Greg's book, The Complete Freebsd, it makes mention of proxy firewalling, >routing and translating packets based on the packet's info/source. >Does anyone have any info or examples or tutorials or experience with this? >What i'm needing to do is (based on the source IP) route either to my web >proxy or to my web-filter proxy. Any Ideas where to take this? I'd use natd to accomplish this. For example, on my home firewall, I tunnel in-bound ssh connections from selected source IPs to a certain internal machine. (In-bound ssh connections from elsewhere get dropped on the floor.) I also pass in-bound HTTP connections from the outside world to a certain internal Web server; making the selection of which internal Web server based on source IP address would be straightforward. On the other hand, it may or may not be worthy of trust. Cheers, david -- David Wolfskill dhw@whistle.com UNIX System Administrator voice: (650) 577-7158 pager: (888) 347-0197 FAX: (650) 372-5915 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 2 14: 6:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cscfx.sytex.com (cscfx.sytex.com [205.147.190.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E86FA1567B for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 14:06:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rwc@sytex.net) Received: (from rwc@localhost) by cscfx.sytex.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA13502; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 17:04:41 -0400 Message-Id: <199909022104.RAA13502@cscfx.sytex.com> Subject: Re: Sprint vs Quest To: ccook@tcworks.net (Chris Cook) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 17:04:40 -0400 (EDT) Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <37CF0E9E.A1D16207@tcworks.net> from "Chris Cook" at Sep 2, 99 06:56:14 pm From: rcramer@sytex.net X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1264 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes, there is. Both of you and others that may be interested there is isp-telco@sytex.net. This is a majordomo list. To subscribe send an email to majordomo@sytex.net with the following line in the body, no subject line is necessary: subscribe isp-telco mysystem@yourdomain.com Enjoy Dick BTW the list server for the Freebsd User Group for Metropolitan DC is at this address as well, BUT you should subscribe to fug-washdc. Thats all folks! > > Deepwell Internet wrote: > > > > Is there a list for discussing telco's, local loops, pricing structures, > > and ISP's relations and/or positive/negative stories about telcos? > > > > I'm not asking to move this discussion, I'm just very interested in it and > > would like to see more. > > That would be a HUGE list...especially the positive/NEGATIVE stories > about telcos.... It's a joke to order a circuit anymore. > > -- > Chris Cook > The Computer Works > http://www.tcworks.net > http://www.tcworks.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > -- Richard Cramer rcramer@sytex.net Phone: 703-425-2515 President Fax: 703-425-4585 SytexNet(tm) Sytex Access Ltd. POB 2385, Fairfax, VA 22031-0385 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 2 19:18:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite.sentex.ca [199.212.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D81514F5B for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 19:18:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from ospf-mdt.sentex.net (ospf-mdt.sentex.net [205.211.164.81]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA12884; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 22:16:52 -0400 (EDT) From: mike@sentex.net (Mike Tancsa) To: brian.scott@SLipmat.net (Brian Scott) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Quotas and Mail Spool Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 02:29:36 GMT Message-ID: <37cf3269.99500153@mail.sentex.net> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2 Sep 1999 11:42:11 -0400, in sentex.lists.freebsd.isp you wrote: >I'm using sendmail w qpopper and have quotas set on >/var/mail, problem is that it uses /var/mail to spool There are two issues 1) You need to use procmail (or something that respects quotas) as a replacement for mail.local in /etc/sendmail.cf, try Mlocal, P=/usr/local/bin/procmail, F=lsDFMAw5:/|@qSPfhn9, S=10/30, R=20/40, T=DNS/RFC822/X-Unix, A=procmail -Y -a $h -d $u for the Mlocal line In you popper Make file in /usr/ports/mail/popper, change the configure args to CONFIGURE_ARGS= --enable-apop=${PREFIX}/etc/popper/pop.auth \ --with-apopuid=pop \ --enable-servermode i.e. add --enable-servermode This will prevent popper from making a .pop file ---Mike Mike Tancsa (mdtancsa@sentex.net) Sentex Communications Corp, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada "Given enough time, 100 monkeys on 100 routers could setup a national IP network." (KDW2) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 2 20:34:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.netdirect.net (mail.netdirect.net [209.212.192.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99EBF15142 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 20:34:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from angrick@netdirect.net) Received: from angrick (p5-term20-in.netdirect.net [208.31.245.5]) by mail.netdirect.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id WAA01171; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 22:34:15 -0500 (EST) From: "Andy Angrick" To: "Mike Tancsa" Cc: "freebsd-isp" Subject: RE: Quotas and Mail Spool Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 22:12:43 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <37cf3269.99500153@mail.sentex.net> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Question..does (or can) mail.local report any errors back to sendmail? If so, I wonder if a wrapper could be made for mail.local that checked the size of the mailbox against a certain quota..then if it was above the quota...an error was returned from the mail.local wrapper..if all is okay..actual mail.local file is run. Just a though. -Andy > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Mike Tancsa > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 9:30 PM > To: Brian Scott > Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Quotas and Mail Spool > > > On 2 Sep 1999 11:42:11 -0400, in sentex.lists.freebsd.isp you wrote: > > >I'm using sendmail w qpopper and have quotas set on > >/var/mail, problem is that it uses /var/mail to spool > > There are two issues > > 1) You need to use procmail (or something that respects quotas) as a > replacement for mail.local > > in /etc/sendmail.cf, try > Mlocal, P=/usr/local/bin/procmail, F=lsDFMAw5:/|@qSPfhn9, S=10/30, > R=20/40, > T=DNS/RFC822/X-Unix, > A=procmail -Y -a $h -d $u > > for the Mlocal line > > In you popper Make file in /usr/ports/mail/popper, change the configure > args to > CONFIGURE_ARGS= --enable-apop=${PREFIX}/etc/popper/pop.auth \ > --with-apopuid=pop \ > --enable-servermode > > i.e. add --enable-servermode > > This will prevent popper from making a .pop file > > > ---Mike > Mike Tancsa (mdtancsa@sentex.net) > Sentex Communications Corp, > Waterloo, Ontario, Canada > "Given enough time, 100 monkeys on 100 routers could setup a > national IP network." (KDW2) > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 2 22:27:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from www.yore.net (www.yore.net [38.193.45.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF001507A for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 22:27:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rbagby@yore.net) Received: from raybagby (nas1-26.yore.net [38.193.45.40]) by www.yore.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA00369 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 00:25:39 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <003301bef5cd$1a7923c0$282dc126@raybagby> From: "Ray Bagby" To: Subject: arp trouble? Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 00:28:06 -0500 Organization: yore.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings, Just replaced one of the cards in the 3Com box and now I'm getting problems with people getting e-mail and web service from the Freebsd box. Before I did anything I tried to ping off the NT box that handles authorizations and got no response. Upon reboot I get this message from Freebsd: arp: {ethernet address} is using my IP address xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx! Before reboot the Freebsd box was showing 5 or 6 of these messages: arp: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx moved from {ethernet address} to {ethernet address} mostly the same ethernet addresses but once in a while something different. I've read the arp man pages but I'm just not seeing the light on this. Could anyone tell me what's happening and what I need to do to fix it? Thanks! Ray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Sep 2 23: 2:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from finland.ispro.net.tr (finland.ispro.net.tr [195.174.18.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35ADE15CA1 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 23:02:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from ispro.net.tr (c14pc16.dc.turkuamk.fi [193.166.135.241]) by finland.ispro.net.tr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA38838; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:00:54 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Message-ID: <37CF726F.A40BF850@ispro.net.tr> Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 09:02:07 +0200 From: Evren Yurteen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ray Bagby Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: arp trouble? References: <003301bef5cd$1a7923c0$282dc126@raybagby> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org it means that the machine with the {ethernet address} is using the IP address of your machine... do you know which machine has that {ethernet address}? you should examine its configuration! Evren Ray Bagby wrote: > Greetings, > Just replaced one of the cards in the 3Com box and now I'm getting > problems with people getting e-mail and web service from the Freebsd box. > > Before I did anything I tried to ping off the NT box that handles > authorizations and got no response. > > Upon reboot I get this message from Freebsd: > arp: {ethernet address} is using my IP address xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx! > > Before reboot the Freebsd box was showing 5 or 6 of these messages: > arp: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx moved from {ethernet address} to {ethernet address} > mostly the same ethernet addresses but once in a while something > different. > > I've read the arp man pages but I'm just not seeing the light on this. > Could anyone tell me what's happening and what I need to do to fix it? > > Thanks! > Ray > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 3 1:42:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cronus.medianetwork.se (cronus.medianetwork.se [193.14.204.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2488714D4A for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 01:42:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from support@junglenote.com) Received: from junglenote.com (digital25.medianetwork.se [193.14.204.243]) by cronus.medianetwork.se (8.9.3/8.7) with ESMTP id KAA25278 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:40:04 +0200 Received: from enigmatic [127.0.0.1] by junglenote.com [localhost] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.84.R) for ; Fri, 03 Sep 1999 10:44:12 +0200 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:44:09 +0200 Message-ID: <01BEF5F9.40F06230.support@junglenote.com> From: Dan Larsson To: "[FreeBSD-ISP-List] (E-post)" Subject: ePerl performace benchmarks Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:44:08 +0200 Organization: Portabla Datorer AB X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet-e-post/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Return-Path: support@junglenote.com Reply-To: support@junglenote.com Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As I've read in the documents for ePerl there are some performace and security issues regarding installing EmbedPerl as a built in module as to a standalone interpriter. On the matter of performace does someone have any comparative figures between built in module mode and stand alone interpriter. Regards ---- Dan Larsson ( mailto:dan@junglenote.com ) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 3 2:53:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proteus.eclipse.net.uk (proteus.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44153156C6 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 02:52:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by proteus.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A949B0C; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:52:24 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37CF9AEF.CD00B05C@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 10:54:55 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Angrick Cc: Mike Tancsa , freebsd-isp Subject: Re: Quotas and Mail Spool References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Question..does (or can) mail.local report any errors back to sendmail? Yes, this is necessary in case it can't write to the mailbox so the message can be bounced back. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 3 3:38:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cache.spinoza.co.za (cache.spinoza.co.za [196.15.199.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33C9F14D27 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 03:38:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anthon@creator.co.za) Received: from anthon ([10.0.0.202]) by cache.spinoza.co.za (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id MAA08041 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 12:36:48 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from anthon@creator.co.za) Reply-To: From: "Erich A Voigt" To: Subject: Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 12:37:26 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Newbie to this list and FreeBSD! I have 2 64k lines into 2 x BSD running NATd into the 10.x.x.x environment. Also 2 BSD running named outside of this as NS and NS1 Then I have clients linked via the system with 192.168.xx.yy adresses that have a problem seeing out. Example: I allocated 196.15.199.27 to client and in alias.conf linked it to his exchange server 192.168.33.201. The moment I do that, he cannot see out into the rest of the world from his exchange server. Do I need an internal nameserver or does he have to set up his NT Exchangeserver?? Apologies if it is an obvious Q! Had a look at the tutorial mentioned by Ales yesterday: "Try this link, it will teach you how to spool mail to home directories, and it works very well: http://freebsd.peon.net/cgi-bin/tutorials.html.cgi?file=8 I hope this helps... Ales But it relates to BSD 2.2, is there anything similar but 3.x?? Regards Anthon Erich A Voigt The Internet Connection Ph: +27 21 462 5814 Fax: + 27 21 465 9414 Mail: anthon@creator.co.za To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 3 10:30:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from kermit.empireone.net (kermit.empireone.net [207.111.39.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E8715230 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:30:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jrsysadmin@empireone.net) Received: from dragonlord (webmaster.empireone.net [209.118.194.233]) by kermit.empireone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA26465; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:30:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <007f01bef64b$25a1e6a0$e9c276d1@empireone.net> From: "James" To: "James" , "Troy Settle" , References: <012501bef568$64ae48e0$e9c276d1@empireone.net> Subject: anyone run an isp with freebsd Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:30:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hmmm i had no reply does anyone here run an isp with freebsd?? ----- Original Message ----- From: James To: Troy Settle ; Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 10:27 AM Subject: freebsd working with bsdi > we are going t o have three unix machines > working with a raid5 box the raid box will have bsdi on it anyonein this > situation runn up against and problems? > nfs does that play ok together > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 3 10:35:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from oak.iea-software.com (oak.iea-software.com [207.53.165.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEEC115F90 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:35:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shawn@bsdguy.com) Received: from sycamore (unverified [207.53.165.36]) by oak.iea-software.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.4.2) with SMTP id ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:21:06 -0700 Message-ID: <019c01bef632$ab91cf50$24a535cf@ieasoftware.com> From: "Shawn Workman" To: "James" , "Troy Settle" , References: <012501bef568$64ae48e0$e9c276d1@empireone.net> <007f01bef64b$25a1e6a0$e9c276d1@empireone.net> Subject: Re: anyone run an isp with freebsd Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:35:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well this would definitely be the group to ask :) ----- Original Message ----- From: James To: James ; Troy Settle ; Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 1:30 PM Subject: anyone run an isp with freebsd > hmmm i had no reply does anyone here run an isp with freebsd?? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: James > To: Troy Settle ; > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 10:27 AM > Subject: freebsd working with bsdi > > > > we are going t o have three unix machines > > working with a raid5 box the raid box will have bsdi on it anyonein this > > situation runn up against and problems? > > nfs does that play ok together > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 3 10:40:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from runner.jjsoft.com (jahanur.intur.net [206.97.149.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1519A15712 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:40:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jahanur@jjsoft.com) Received: from localhost (jahanur@localhost) by runner.jjsoft.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id MAA17142; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 12:38:46 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 12:38:46 -0500 (CDT) From: jahanur To: James Cc: Troy Settle , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: anyone run an isp with freebsd In-Reply-To: <007f01bef64b$25a1e6a0$e9c276d1@empireone.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes we do. And several other that I have setup. jahanur On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, James wrote: > hmmm i had no reply does anyone here run an isp with freebsd?? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: James > To: Troy Settle ; > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 10:27 AM > Subject: freebsd working with bsdi > > > > we are going t o have three unix machines > > working with a raid5 box the raid box will have bsdi on it anyonein this > > situation runn up against and problems? > > nfs does that play ok together > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 3 10:54:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cliff.i-plus.net (cliff.i-plus.net [209.100.20.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4AAB15D41 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:54:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from st@i-plus.net) Received: from ARCADIA (arcadia.i-plus.net [209.100.20.198]) by cliff.i-plus.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA20273; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:53:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "Troy Settle" To: "James" , Subject: RE: anyone run an isp with freebsd Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:54:18 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <007f01bef64b$25a1e6a0$e9c276d1@empireone.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, of course we do. That's the purpose of this list. Now, why you sent your original message directly to me as well as the list, I have no idea... that's why I ignored it. As for the question itself, it makes no sense, which is probably why most everyone else ignored it. NFS does work after a fashion, but there are problems with locking. Seems that nobody with sufficient clue and desire has sat down to fix it. No big deal though, there's ways to work around the problems. If you're looking for a real solution, however, try telling us the particulars of what you want to accomplish: How many users? Will they have shell access? What do you plan on putting on the RAID box? Why do you think you need a RAID subsystem? I've got a 3600 user ISP running on 5 boxes, none of them with any RAID subsystem. RAID sounds good, and is a neat concept, but I've yet to see a real need for it. I suppose that RAID would be a neat toy to use on the box that hosts /home (we deliver mail to $HOME/.mail), but until we reach into the 10's of thousands of users, I doubt we'll really need that much hardware (most users don't bother with personal web pages, so there's really very little storage needs for even 3600 users) The second RAID application that we might consider, would be a monster squid box. But, a handfull of disks and ccd should do the trick nicely for that application. Other RAID applications might include a fileserver for a large web farm, but this is an ideal, and far from necessary. In fact, it might be best to make each machine a complete stand-alone box in terms of the content that it provides. Laterz, Troy Settle iPlus Internet Services > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of James > Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 4:30 PM > To: James; Troy Settle; freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: anyone run an isp with freebsd > > > hmmm i had no reply does anyone here run an isp with freebsd?? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: James > To: Troy Settle ; > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 10:27 AM > Subject: freebsd working with bsdi > > > > we are going t o have three unix machines > > working with a raid5 box the raid box will have bsdi on it anyonein this > > situation runn up against and problems? > > nfs does that play ok together > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 3 11: 9:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from richard2.pil.net (richard2.pil.net [207.8.164.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 38DB814BD3 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:09:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from up@pil.net) Received: (qmail 6672 invoked by uid 1825); 3 Sep 1999 18:08:41 -0000 Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:08:41 -0400 (EDT) From: X-Sender: up@richard2.pil.net To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: bump.c Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is there a fix yet for this DoS? Apprently all *BSD systems are vulnerable. I saw it myself...ugly. James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor up@3.am http://3.am ========================================================================= ISPF 3 - The Forum for ISPs by ISPs(tm) || Nov 15-17, 1999, New Orleans 3 days of clues, news, and views from the industry's best and brightest. Visit for information and registration. ========================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 3 11:54: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from saturn.psn.net (saturn.psn.net [207.211.58.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 496611578D for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:53:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@blackdawn.com) Received: from shadow.blackdawn.com (5042-243.008.popsite.net [209.224.140.243]) by saturn.psn.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08849; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:57:40 -0700 (MST) Received: (from will@localhost) by shadow.blackdawn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA68994; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:53:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from will) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <007f01bef64b$25a1e6a0$e9c276d1@empireone.net> Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 14:53:20 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: Will Andrews From: Will Andrews To: James Subject: RE: anyone run an isp with freebsd Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 03-Sep-99 James wrote: > hmmm i had no reply does anyone here run an isp with freebsd?? If you are going to write like this: >> we are going t o have three unix machines >> working with a raid5 box the raid box will have bsdi on it anyonein this >> situation runn up against and problems? >> nfs does that play ok together Don't expect a reply. -- Will Andrews To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 3 12: 0:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proteus.eclipse.net.uk (proteus.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6199915787 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 12:00:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by proteus.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 366759B14; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 19:59:58 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37D01B45.F97E8210@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 20:02:29 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Troy Settle Cc: James , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: anyone run an isp with freebsd References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > NFS does work after a fashion, but there are problems with locking. Anyone know which side of things the locking probs are? OpenBSD locking works on the server side but not client side, if it's the other way round here then maybe there's some light. :-) BSDI does do locking both sides okay iirc. > The second RAID application that we might consider, would be a > monster squid box. But, a handfull of disks and ccd should do the > trick nicely for that application. Let squid do the disk handling itself, it works very well itself, If you need to split the squid into two boxes, you can just take one cache disk out and put it into the second server. You don't have to have one mother of a filesystem to fsck all in one go if it panics, just a load of separate ones all on separate disks that can be checked in parallel. And if a disk dies, you don't have degraded performance while the raid mends itself after you add a new one. Squid 2.3-devel is starting to abstract the filesystem so that they can experiment with alternative filesystems - presumably some day you'll be able to use raw devices directly and bypass UFS (like Peregrine already does). -sh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 3 12:41:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from richard2.pil.net (richard2.pil.net [207.8.164.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 06D42150BE for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 12:41:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from up@pil.net) Received: (qmail 14573 invoked by uid 1825); 3 Sep 1999 19:41:24 -0000 Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:41:24 -0400 (EDT) From: X-Sender: up@richard2.pil.net To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: kernel config 102 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org There's clearly something I just don't get about FreeBSD kernel configuration here, and I can't seem to find any reference to it. my config file has the following ISA network interfaces commented out: # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See # revision 1.20 of this file. # device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 # device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 # device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 yet /var/log/messages show some kind of probe attempt: Sep 3 15:27:32 edward /kernel: config> di ex0 Sep 3 15:27:32 edward /kernel: No such device: ex0 Sep 3 15:27:32 edward /kernel: Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for Sep 3 15:27:32 edward /kernel: config> di ep0 Sep 3 15:27:32 edward /kernel: No such device: ep0 Sep 3 15:27:32 edward /kernel: Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for Sep 3 15:27:32 edward /kernel: config> di ed0 Sep 3 15:27:32 edward /kernel: No such device: ed0 I'm trying to isolate a problem that happens during soft reboots and was wondering if this could have anything to do with it... TIA< James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor up@3.am http://3.am ========================================================================= ISPF 3 - The Forum for ISPs by ISPs(tm) || Nov 15-17, 1999, New Orleans 3 days of clues, news, and views from the industry's best and brightest. Visit for information and registration. ========================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 3 14:27: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from techpower.net (techpower.net [205.133.231.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 531EB15EF3 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:26:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hometeam@techpower.net) Received: from localhost (hometeam@localhost) by techpower.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA01904; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 17:28:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 17:28:59 -0400 (EDT) From: hometeam To: up@3.am Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kernel config 102 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org That is not a probe attempt that is a manual attempt at boot time using -c option. try the FAQ manual has a wealth of info on config file. also LINT. --/The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system.\-- --/System Administrator support@techpower.net\-- On Fri, 3 Sep 1999 up@3.am wrote: > > There's clearly something I just don't get about FreeBSD kernel > configuration here, and I can't seem to find any reference to it. my > config file has the following ISA network interfaces commented out: > > # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize > # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. > # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See > # revision 1.20 of this file. > > # device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 > # device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 > # device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 > > > > yet /var/log/messages show some kind of probe attempt: > > Sep 3 15:27:32 edward /kernel: config> di ex0 > Sep 3 15:27:32 edward /kernel: No such device: ex0 > Sep 3 15:27:32 edward /kernel: Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for > Sep 3 15:27:32 edward /kernel: config> di ep0 > Sep 3 15:27:32 edward /kernel: No such device: ep0 > Sep 3 15:27:32 edward /kernel: Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for > Sep 3 15:27:32 edward /kernel: config> di ed0 > Sep 3 15:27:32 edward /kernel: No such device: ed0 > > > > I'm trying to isolate a problem that happens during soft reboots and was > wondering if this could have anything to do with it... > > TIA< > > James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor > up@3.am http://3.am > ========================================================================= > ISPF 3 - The Forum for ISPs by ISPs(tm) || Nov 15-17, 1999, New Orleans > 3 days of clues, news, and views from the industry's best and brightest. > Visit for information and registration. > ========================================================================= > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 3 14:28:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from seahorse.corp.gulf.net (seahorse.corp.gulf.net [206.105.61.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72EC215F54 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:28:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phill@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (phill@localhost) by seahorse.corp.gulf.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA77250; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 16:29:58 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: seahorse.corp.gulf.net: phill owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 16:29:58 -0500 (CDT) From: Phillip Salzman X-Sender: phill@seahorse.corp.gulf.net To: up@3.am Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel config 102 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Your /boot/kernel.conf is trying to remove devices that do not exist. Since you created your own kernel, you left out hardware you don't have. Simply remove /boot/kernel.conf. Also, this was probally a more suit of freebsd-questions. freebsd-isp is supposed to be for ISP-related postings. -- Phillip Salzman On Fri, 3 Sep 1999 up@3.am wrote: > > There's clearly something I just don't get about FreeBSD kernel > configuration here, and I can't seem to find any reference to it. my > config file has the following ISA network interfaces commented out: > > # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize > # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. > # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See > # revision 1.20 of this file. > > # device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 > # device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 > # device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 > > > > yet /var/log/messages show some kind of probe attempt: > > Sep 3 15:27:32 edward /kernel: config> di ex0 > Sep 3 15:27:32 edward /kernel: No such device: ex0 > Sep 3 15:27:32 edward /kernel: Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for > Sep 3 15:27:32 edward /kernel: config> di ep0 > Sep 3 15:27:32 edward /kernel: No such device: ep0 > Sep 3 15:27:32 edward /kernel: Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for > Sep 3 15:27:32 edward /kernel: config> di ed0 > Sep 3 15:27:32 edward /kernel: No such device: ed0 > > > > I'm trying to isolate a problem that happens during soft reboots and was > wondering if this could have anything to do with it... > > TIA< > > James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor > up@3.am http://3.am > ========================================================================= > ISPF 3 - The Forum for ISPs by ISPs(tm) || Nov 15-17, 1999, New Orleans > 3 days of clues, news, and views from the industry's best and brightest. > Visit for information and registration. > ========================================================================= > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 3 15:19:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from zed.ludd.luth.se (zed.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A886814BE2 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:19:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pantzer@speedy.ludd.luth.se) Received: from speedy.ludd.luth.se (pantzer@speedy.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.164]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA23300; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 00:18:57 +0200 Message-Id: <199909032218.AAA23300@zed.ludd.luth.se> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: "Troy Settle" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: anyone run an isp with freebsd In-Reply-To: Message from "Troy Settle" of "Fri, 03 Sep 1999 13:54:18 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 00:18:56 +0200 From: Mattias Pantzare Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I suppose that RAID would be a neat toy to use on the box that hosts /home > (we deliver mail to $HOME/.mail), but until we reach into the 10's of > thousands of users, I doubt we'll really need that much hardware (most users > don't bother with personal web pages, so there's really very little storage > needs for even 3600 users) The most common reason to do RAID5 is to be able to take a disk failure. That has nothing to do with size of anything. You can do it in software if you have low performance needs. Users usualy do not like to loose files. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 3 16:41:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite.sentex.ca [199.212.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B473214DCC for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 16:41:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from ospf-mdt.sentex.net (ospf-mdt.sentex.net [205.211.164.81]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA23747; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 19:40:40 -0400 (EDT) From: mike@sentex.net (Mike Tancsa) To: up@3.am Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel config 102 Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 23:53:32 GMT Message-ID: <37d05f1e.176481897@mail.sentex.net> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 3 Sep 1999 15:41:58 -0400, in sentex.lists.freebsd.isp you wrote: > >There's clearly something I just don't get about FreeBSD kernel >configuration here, and I can't seem to find any reference to it. my >config file has the following ISA network interfaces commented out: > >yet /var/log/messages show some kind of probe attempt: > >Sep 3 15:27:32 edward /kernel: config> di ex0 >Sep 3 15:27:32 edward /kernel: No such device: ex0 Look at /boot/kernel.conf. Thats what is generating those messages at bootup time. It was created when you did the original install and chose to disable bits in the Visual Config.... >I'm trying to isolate a problem that happens during soft reboots and was >wondering if this could have anything to do with it... Dont think so. ---Mike Mike Tancsa (mdtancsa@sentex.net) Sentex Communications Corp, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada "Given enough time, 100 monkeys on 100 routers could setup a national IP network." (KDW2) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Sep 3 16:43:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26044151B2 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 16:42:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id JAA25277; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 09:12:05 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id JAA03794; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 09:12:03 +0930 (CST) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 09:12:03 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Will Andrews Cc: James , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: anyone run an isp with freebsd Message-ID: <19990904091202.Z95378@freebie.lemis.com> References: <007f01bef64b$25a1e6a0$e9c276d1@empireone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Will Andrews on Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 02:53:20PM -0400 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday, 3 September 1999 at 14:53:20 -0400, Will Andrews wrote: > On 03-Sep-99 James wrote: >> hmmm i had no reply does anyone here run an isp with freebsd?? > > If you are going to write like this: > >>> we are going t o have three unix machines >>> working with a raid5 box the raid box will have bsdi on it anyonein this >>> situation runn up against and problems? >>> nfs does that play ok together > > Don't expect a reply. To expand on this, you might like to read http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. It addresses a different mailing list, but the considerations are the same. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Sep 4 4: 0:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.trace.net.tw (mail.trace.net.tw [202.80.128.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B6B15204 for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 04:00:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ronald@trace.net.tw) X-Comments: ****** Message sent through an Trace account ****** X-http: ****** http://www.trace.com.tw ****** Received: from trace.net.tw (engineer.trace.net.tw [202.80.128.82]) by mail.trace.net.tw (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id TAA21220 for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 19:00:00 +0800 Message-ID: <37D0FE49.ABB069CE@trace.net.tw> Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 19:11:05 +0800 From: Ronald Wiplinger Organization: Wang's Trace Tech. Enterprise Co., Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-TW MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp FreeBSD Subject: Tcket system Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------2CBD0B60275207CDF63D21E5" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------2CBD0B60275207CDF63D21E5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Does anybody have a "ticket system" ? I have setup that e-mails to the help desk comes to different people, in order to speed up questions from customers, but just to send it to many people does not solve the problem, ... I would like to setup an alias in sendmail, which would give out a ticket number, add the message and send it than to available people. Herby should be used a database, which records the start time of the ticket, .... As soon the request is sufficient answered the ticket should be closed in the database. ... or does something else exist? bye Ronald -- Ronald Wiplinger (ÃQ¤¯¯Ç) http://www.trace.net.tw phone number = e-mail: e-mail: 0935869459@phonebook.com.tw or ronald@trace.net.tw --------------2CBD0B60275207CDF63D21E5 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="ronald.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Ronald Wiplinger Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ronald.vcf" begin:vcard n:Wiplinger;Ronald tel;pager:0943-154953 tel;cell:0935-869459 tel;fax:2600-0132 tel;home:2609-0652 ext. 80 tel;work:2609-0652 ext. 12 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:www.trace.net.tw org:Wang's Trace Tech. Enterprise Co., Ltd. adr:;;No. 11, Lane 96, Sec. 1, Wen Hua 2nd Road, Linkou Hsian;Taipei Hsien;;24442;Taiwan version:2.1 email;internet:ronald@trace.net.tw title:Gen. Manager fn:Ronald Wiplinger end:vcard --------------2CBD0B60275207CDF63D21E5-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Sep 4 4:30:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from saturn.psn.net (saturn.psn.net [207.211.58.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B7861518B for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 04:30:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@blackdawn.com) Received: from shadow.blackdawn.com (5042-243.008.popsite.net [209.224.140.243]) by saturn.psn.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA22618; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 04:31:57 -0700 (MST) Received: (from will@localhost) by shadow.blackdawn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA37301; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 07:27:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from will) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <37D0FE49.ABB069CE@trace.net.tw> Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 07:27:30 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: Will Andrews From: Will Andrews To: Ronald Wiplinger Subject: RE: Tcket system Cc: isp FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 04-Sep-99 Ronald Wiplinger wrote: > I would like to setup an alias in sendmail, which would give out a > ticket number, add the message and send it than to available people. > Herby should be used a database, which records the start time of the > ticket, .... As soon the request is sufficient answered the ticket > should be closed in the database. Such a system reminds me of GNATS. You could probably modify GNATS to your own needs, although with the GPL license, I'm not real sure what you could or could not do. You can get more info about GNATS at http://sourceware.cygnus.com/gnats/ ... under FreeBSD, it can be installed like so: # cd /usr/ports/databases/gnats && make install Take care. -- Will Andrews To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Sep 4 6: 2:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp7.xs4all.nl (smtp7.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B918614F96 for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 06:02:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from niels@bakker.net) Received: from liquid.tpb.net (arctic.xs4all.nl [194.109.37.82]) by smtp7.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA16017 for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 15:01:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (niels@localhost) by liquid.tpb.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with ESMTP id EAA30392 for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 04:42:29 +0200 Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 04:42:28 +0200 (CEST) From: N X-Sender: niels@liquid.tpb.net To: freebsd-isp Subject: Re: Quotas and Mail Spool In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9909040439070.30274-100000@liquid.tpb.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andy Angrick wrote: > Question..does (or can) mail.local report any errors back to sendmail? If > so, I wonder if a wrapper could be made for mail.local that checked the size > of the mailbox against a certain quota..then if it was above the quota...an > error was returned from the mail.local wrapper..if all is okay..actual > mail.local file is run. Why bother with a wrapper? You have the source of mail.local at hand. See /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/mail.local/ for that, and /usr/include/sysexits.h for possible exit codes you can use. The next time you post to a mailing list, could you take the trouble to trim the quotes a bit? You make threads fairly unfollowable. TIA. -- Niels. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Sep 4 6:31:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.netdirect.net (mail.netdirect.net [209.212.192.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C91215232 for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 06:31:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from angrick@netdirect.net) Received: from angrick (p25-term13-in.netdirect.net [208.31.240.89]) by mail.netdirect.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id IAA19618; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 08:30:35 -0500 (EST) From: "Andy Angrick" To: "N" Cc: "freebsd-isp" Subject: RE: Quotas and Mail Spool Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 08:09:03 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <9909040439070.30274-100000@liquid.tpb.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sorry, I promise to be better next time :) Anyway, maybe I need to explain further...I think the point was missed. Its not whether mail.local has the ability to report error codes/status, its whether sendmail has the ability to read and interpret the error codes. I just mentioned a wrapper because it would be easier than hacking mail.local source. The wrapper would be called initially instead of mail.local. It would check the size of the mail box and if it is over a certain size (maybe from a file called /etc/mail.quota) it would return an error back to sendmail...if its okay, then mail.local would be run as normal. I think this would be easier than setting up a separate quota system for /var or installing another MTA like qmail if all you want to do is enable some sort of mail quotas. -Andy > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of N > Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 9:42 PM > To: freebsd-isp > Subject: Re: Quotas and Mail Spool > > > Andy Angrick wrote: > > > Question..does (or can) mail.local report any errors back to > sendmail? If > > so, I wonder if a wrapper could be made for mail.local that > checked the size > > of the mailbox against a certain quota..then if it was above > the quota...an > > error was returned from the mail.local wrapper..if all is okay..actual > > mail.local file is run. > > Why bother with a wrapper? You have the source of mail.local at hand. > See /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/mail.local/ for that, and > /usr/include/sysexits.h for possible exit codes you can use. > > The next time you post to a mailing list, could you take the trouble to > trim the quotes a bit? You make threads fairly unfollowable. TIA. > > > -- Niels. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Sep 4 6:48:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [207.239.68.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2856F15003 for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 06:48:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fbsdlist@federation.addy.com) Received: from localhost (fbsdlist@localhost) by federation.addy.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA19876; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 09:48:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 09:48:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Cliff Addy To: N Cc: freebsd-isp Subject: Re: Quotas and Mail Spool In-Reply-To: <9909040439070.30274-100000@liquid.tpb.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 4 Sep 1999, N wrote: > Why bother with a wrapper? You have the source of mail.local at hand. > See /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/mail.local/ for that, and > /usr/include/sysexits.h for possible exit codes you can use. Having done both several years ago, I recall that the wrapper method is cleaner and easier. I guess there's some minor performance penalty, but our systems are typically pretty underloaded. Cliff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Sep 4 8: 6:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from richard2.pil.net (richard2.pil.net [207.8.164.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3C507150DA for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 08:06:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from up@pil.net) Received: (qmail 3897 invoked by uid 1825); 4 Sep 1999 15:05:09 -0000 Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 11:05:09 -0400 (EDT) From: X-Sender: up@richard2.pil.net To: Phillip Salzman Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel config 102 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, Phillip Salzman wrote: > Simply remove /boot/kernel.conf. Thank you...that did it. I'm new to FreeBSD, so I've been relying on Greg Lehey's book, and I didn't see anything in those 700+ pages about this. > Also, this was probally a more suit of freebsd-questions. freebsd-isp > is supposed to be for ISP-related postings. Apologies...I read the summary (I didn't see a charter for this list) and took "Issues for Internet Service Providers (of which I am one) using FreeBSD" as meaning "Since you're an ISP, you don't have to stay subscribed to freebsd-questions, which has a horrid s/n ratio, you can ask general freebsd questions here". Wishful thinking :) > On Fri, 3 Sep 1999 up@3.am wrote: > > > > > There's clearly something I just don't get about FreeBSD kernel > > configuration here, and I can't seem to find any reference to it. my > > config file has the following ISA network interfaces commented out: > > > > # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize > > # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. > > # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See > > # revision 1.20 of this file. > > > > # device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 > > # device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 > > # device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 > > > > > > > > yet /var/log/messages show some kind of probe attempt: > > > > Sep 3 15:27:32 edward /kernel: config> di ex0 > > Sep 3 15:27:32 edward /kernel: No such device: ex0 > > Sep 3 15:27:32 edward /kernel: Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for > > Sep 3 15:27:32 edward /kernel: config> di ep0 > > Sep 3 15:27:32 edward /kernel: No such device: ep0 > > Sep 3 15:27:32 edward /kernel: Invalid command or syntax. Type `?' for > > Sep 3 15:27:32 edward /kernel: config> di ed0 > > Sep 3 15:27:32 edward /kernel: No such device: ed0 > > > > > > > > I'm trying to isolate a problem that happens during soft reboots and was > > wondering if this could have anything to do with it... > > > > TIA< > > > > James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor > > up@3.am http://3.am > > ========================================================================= > > ISPF 3 - The Forum for ISPs by ISPs(tm) || Nov 15-17, 1999, New Orleans > > 3 days of clues, news, and views from the industry's best and brightest. > > Visit for information and registration. > > ========================================================================= > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > James Smallacombe PlantageNet, Inc. CEO and Janitor up@3.am http://3.am ========================================================================= ISPF 3 - The Forum for ISPs by ISPs(tm) || Nov 15-17, 1999, New Orleans 3 days of clues, news, and views from the industry's best and brightest. Visit for information and registration. ========================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Sep 4 11: 5:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.shellnet.co.uk (smtp.shellnet.co.uk [194.129.209.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E03D15255 for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 11:05:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from flec@flec.co.uk) Received: from STEVENFHOME (host5-99-49-131.btinternet.com [195.99.49.131]) by smtp.shellnet.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.1-shellnet.stevenf) with SMTP id TAA14328; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 19:03:59 +0100 (BST) Posted-Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 19:03:59 +0100 (BST) From: flec@flec.co.uk (Steven Fletcher) To: Ronald Wiplinger Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tcket system Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 18:03:53 GMT Message-ID: <37d25dde.121221586@smtp.shellnet.co.uk> References: <37D0FE49.ABB069CE@trace.net.tw> In-Reply-To: <37D0FE49.ABB069CE@trace.net.tw> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 04 Sep 1999 19:11:05 +0800, you wrote: >Does anybody have a "ticket system" ? Take a look at Keystone (http://www.stonekeep.com/keystone.php3). There is no email interface with it (last time I checked). I wrote a working, but not very functioal one in perl... it dosen't handle mime encoded emails/attachments yet but basically takes the subject/body/sender of the email and turns it into keystones "Problem", body, and "Open tech" fields via the perl DBI system. I might stick it up & distribute it somewhere when I've done those. Steven Fletcher stevenf@shellnet.co.uk / flec@flec.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Sep 4 12:55:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73EF115CCD for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 12:55:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DC5931C24; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 14:59:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7D3E3817; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 14:59:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 14:59:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: Steven Fletcher Cc: Ronald Wiplinger , isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tcket system In-Reply-To: <37d25dde.121221586@smtp.shellnet.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 4 Sep 1999, Steven Fletcher wrote: > >Does anybody have a "ticket system" ? > > Take a look at Keystone (http://www.stonekeep.com/keystone.php3). > > There is no email interface with it (last time I checked). I wrote a > working, but not very functioal one in perl... it dosen't handle mime > encoded emails/attachments yet but basically takes the > subject/body/sender of the email and turns it into keystones "Problem", > body, and "Open tech" fields via the perl DBI system. I might stick it > up & distribute it somewhere when I've done those. Keystone does have a e-mail interface now. Keystone is a great program, but I'm biased. -- - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Sep 4 15: 2:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.desktop.com (mail.desktop.com [166.90.128.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37C87154CB for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 15:02:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from clark@desktop.com) Received: (from clark@localhost) by mail.desktop.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id PAA42583; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 15:00:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from clark) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 15:00:53 -0700 From: Clark Shishido To: Ronald Wiplinger Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tcket system Message-ID: <19990904150053.A42444@desktop.com> References: <37D0FE49.ABB069CE@trace.net.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <37D0FE49.ABB069CE@trace.net.tw>; from Ronald Wiplinger on Sat, Sep 04, 1999 at 07:11:05PM +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Sep 04, 1999 at 07:11:05PM +0800, Ronald Wiplinger emailed: > Does anybody have a "ticket system" ? > > ... or does something else exist? > I personally can't stand Keystone's interface so I went looking for some ticketing systems a couple of months ago. I found this page with many free packages available, http://linas.org/linux/pm.html But I ended up going back to one that I had used before (not listed on the page above), RequestTracker, available at http://www.fsck.com/projects/rt/ It has a web, email and command line interface (great for generating quick reports) --clark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Sep 4 15:15:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B50E4150B8 for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 15:15:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3D0491C24; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 17:16:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39BAB3817; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 17:16:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 17:16:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: Clark Shishido Cc: Ronald Wiplinger , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tcket system In-Reply-To: <19990904150053.A42444@desktop.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 4 Sep 1999, Clark Shishido wrote: > I personally can't stand Keystone's interface so I went looking for some ticketing systems a couple of months ago. I found this page with many free packages available, > http://linas.org/linux/pm.html If speed was your problem (it was for me) keystone under php4 flies. -- - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Sep 4 16:12:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from seahorse.corp.gulf.net (seahorse.corp.gulf.net [206.105.61.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B17415074 for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 16:12:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phill@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (phill@localhost) by seahorse.corp.gulf.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA10965; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 18:11:35 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: seahorse.corp.gulf.net: phill owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 18:11:35 -0500 (CDT) From: Phillip Salzman X-Sender: phill@seahorse.corp.gulf.net To: Ronald Wiplinger Cc: isp FreeBSD Subject: Re: Tcket system In-Reply-To: <37D0FE49.ABB069CE@trace.net.tw> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Try Keystone. It may be a little more than you need, but it's free and is written in PHP3. The interface uses a MySQL database. You can check it out at www.stonekeep.com -- Phillip Salzman phill@freebsd.org=09FreeBSD - Just another OS "Girl you looks good won't you back dat BSD up..." On Sat, 4 Sep 1999, Ronald Wiplinger wrote: > Does anybody have a "ticket system" ? >=20 > I have setup that e-mails to the help desk comes to different people, in > order to speed up questions from customers, but just to send it to many > people does not solve the problem, ... >=20 > I would like to setup an alias in sendmail, which would give out a > ticket number, add the message and send it than to available people. > Herby should be used a database, which records the start time of the > ticket, .... As soon the request is sufficient answered the ticket > should be closed in the database. >=20 >=20 > ... or does something else exist? >=20 > bye >=20 > Ronald >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > Ronald Wiplinger (=C3Q=A4=AF=AF=C7) http://www.trace.net.tw > phone number =3D e-mail: > e-mail: 0935869459@phonebook.com.tw or ronald@trace.net.tw >=20 >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Sep 4 16:17:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6873615255; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 16:17:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from billf@jade.chc-chimes.com) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C921A1C24; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 18:20:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D4E3817; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 18:20:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 18:20:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fumerola To: Phillip Salzman Cc: Ronald Wiplinger , isp FreeBSD Subject: Re: Tcket system In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 4 Sep 1999, Phillip Salzman wrote: > Try Keystone. It may be a little more than you need, but it's > free and is written in PHP3. The interface uses a MySQL database. Or postgresql, or oracle, or sybase, or interbase. In order of reality. Seriously, though. Postgresql works pretty well, oracle is beta, sybase is up in the air, and interbase will work when the php authors put together some real support for it. -- - bill fumerola - billf@chc-chimes.com - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - bfumerol@computerhorizons.com - billf@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message