From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Mar 21 12:36: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles212.castles.com [208.214.165.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E7D314EEE for ; Sun, 21 Mar 1999 12:36:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00541; Sun, 21 Mar 1999 12:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199903212030.MAA00541@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: DEAM mac Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Wrong Slot-No. printed out by kernel In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 21 Mar 1999 01:26:03 +0100." <36F43C9B.B55943F1@deam.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 12:30:01 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > and again... > my cable and the rest of the hardware is ok. > and i am sure, that no other device uses the irq 10, that will be assigned to the > pccard. > ....... Regrettably, the error message proves you wrong. Try a different interrupt; make sure the card is configured to use the right cable if it's a combo card, etc. > > > > hi mike, > > > > > > the problem with the wrong slot-no. is no longer present, but the timeout of > > > ed'X' continue. > > > what can i do next? > > > > Same things you do for that message with any 'ed' device; fix the IRQ > > and/or cable setup. In your case, you are probably assigning an > > interrupt that's used for something else in your laptop. > > > > > > Remove the 'kldload pcic' line from /etc/rc.pccard and try again. > > > > > > > > > i am using a ne2000 clone pcmcia-card (from compu-shack) on my > > > > > 3.1-release-system. > > > > > i tested it with some numbers of the ed-driver (no pao installed). > > > > > > > > > > the message "/kernel: ed0: device timeout" > > > > > is one thing. > > > > > the funniest this is that i have 2 slots - but the kernel tell me > > > > > something about ".. inserted, slot 2" and "... inserted, slot 3" - no > > > > > slot 1 !! > > > > > > > > > > the ifconfig works fine and the card uses the irq 10. > > > > > > > > > > on first look all is fine, but this card isn't able to communicate with > > > > > my lan/wan. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > please help me.... i am tired of building new kernels and testing and > > > > > testing..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bye > > > > > mac > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith > > > > \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au > > > > \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org > > > > \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > > > > > > > -- > > \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith > > \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au > > \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org > > \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Mar 21 14: 4:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rainey.blueneptune.com (rainey.blueneptune.com [209.133.45.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40FB615207 for ; Sun, 21 Mar 1999 14:04:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aland@blueneptune.com) Received: from blueneptune.com (ppp133.blueneptune.com [209.133.45.133]) by rainey.blueneptune.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA07070; Sun, 21 Mar 1999 14:03:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aland@blueneptune.com) Message-ID: <36F56AC7.96D0374C@blueneptune.com> Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 13:55:20 -0800 From: Alan DuBoff Reply-To: aland@SoftOrchestra.com Organization: Software Orchestration, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Scott Mitchell Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCCARD support -- welcome to the revolution! References: <19990318174601.C7591@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org First, sorry I've taken a few days to respond, I've been real busy with the current project I'm working on. At 05:46 PM 3/18/99 +0000, Scott Mitchell wrote: >So what are we aiming to achieve? In approximate order of difficulty, it >seems to me that what we need to work on is: > > - New drivers, for PCCARD controllers and cards. These may be home-grown, > brought in from PAO, ported from Linux, whatever. There seems to be a > lot of this going on already, where people have cards that don't work > and are hacking up drivers for them. This will definitely be an important area, and I think most of us would agree that the majority of drivers will not be written from the ground up at this point, rather that most would be ported from other OSs, such as Linux. Linux is getting more drivers than most other PC unix platforms, so it seems fair that FreeBSD should look at making gains from those potential resources. UnixWare has some ability to use Linux drivers, not sure of the exact status of that since the promotional copy of UnixWare 7 I got at LinuxWorld (odd place to get it) doesn't appear to come with PCMCIA support on the CD, rather you have to get it from UnixWare 2.1 somehow and add it to UnixWare 7. That in itself has prevented me from giving UnixWare a complete evaluation. > - Reworking the support for a whole bunch of purely PCCARD issues. The > ones that spring to mind (in that they've bugged me lately) are: > - Multifunction card support > - CardBus support > - Improved userland utilities (pccardd/pccardc) > - Kernel support for e.g. reading the CIS of a card > - Graceful recovery from unexpected card removal Also, very very important. I'm not totally qualified to speak on the specific issues as I'm running 2.2.8 and it's working well. > etc, etc. I'm sure there's a lot more. I hope that a lot of this can > be worked on with needing to rewite the _whole_ PCCARD support > framework, although my list already seems to be picking on a goodly > chunk of it... I don't like the idea of having to rewrite drivers for changes to the kernel, and most likely because I don't understand the driver model well enough. This is a terrible limitation, depending on what changes need to be done, and problems will arise in the future, most likely worse than they are now, where pccard support will break. This is bad, bottom line. > - Fitting PCMCIA/CardBus into the 'new bus' and 'dynamic device' support > that is apparently somewhere in the pipeline. I expect this _will_ > involve a rewrite of most of the support code and drivers :( For now I > guess we should be tracking what's going on in that area, and making > appropriate suggestions to ease the pain of transition when the time > comes. There are issues with CardBus, and they change for each vendor. The support of CardBus devices has been limited and since most vendors now write drivers for Win9x/NT, that support comes first (and sometimes last:-() I saw a gent from Japan seems to have written a driver for the 32 bit CardBus 3c-575-TX card (big brother for the 16 bit 3c-574-TX I have). I would hate to duplicate effort in porting something if someone was already working on it. Laptop support is important to me. I want to be able to run my OSs on my laptop and be able to take it to a client site and hook it up to their net so I can work remotely as well as onsite. Currently I have NT, FreeBSD 2.2.8, Solaris 7, and Linux 5.2/GNOME installed on different partitions/disks for my laptop. No questions, NT has the best support from the vendors of devices, I've yet to run into a card that doesn't have NT support. Sun has stated they will not support laptops anymore. This is a real bad move for them, and something that everyone here should think about. Solaris x86 runs well on a lot of laptops, but there are no user configurable parameters for their pcic, so you cannot make any changes to it. Sun seems to be aimed at the high end server market for Intel, and I think that is a limitation in the long run for them, since more and more laptops are being deployed daily. FreeBSD is so far the best PC unix I've run for a single processor. That is changing now, but I still give edge to Solaris x86 on SMP platforms. I would like to see some comparisons of FreeBSD and Solaris running with, say, 4 processors in a server. My guess is that Sun still is able to manipulate their wisdom they've learned from years of SMP support on Solaris Sparc, to come out the winner on the high end. Please do not take this statement as a discount to FreeBSD, I need to see some actual systems running and actual numbers for FreeBSD in 2-way, 4-way, and 8-way servers. Both FreeBSD and Linux are new to this arena. Not to get off on a tangent, laptops as we know them today, only have single processors in them for the most part, and FreeBSD is the best PC unix for that environment, so I see laptop support as being very critical for FreeBSD users. In this same light, I have to wonder if there is a disadvantage of running 3.x and -current code on a laptop, due to the SMP support added to 3.x. The support must be there for 3.x and -current so laptops don't get lost in the dust, that is exactly what has happened to Solaris 7 running on laptops. Linux has decent laptop support, and a lot of market hype to echo it. This should not prevent FreeBSD from finding it's way and/or working with Linux machines as a whole. Linux may be in the same boat, that pre-2.2 kernel may be a better choice for a laptop. I've not run the 2.2 kernel on a laptop, so I can't speak. The ability to run Linux binaries is an important feature for FreeBSD, since applications like Oracle have trial offers for Linux but not FreeBSD. In Oracle's case I hear you can get them to sell you a FreeBSD version as they do have it running in house, although it's not readily available or something similar to that. I don't know if the ability to reuse pccard drivers from Linux would be a big advantage or not, my initial guess is that something will be lost in the emulation, most notably performance (maybe not that important for many situations). If this technology proves useful for SCO, they could be big winners in the long run since they are latched onto IBM for the Merced chip, and IBM is without a doubt one of the largest suppliers of laptops in existence. If SCO could convince IBM to preload their 32 bit version on laptops today, that could give them a definite laptop edge. This remains to be seen, and IBM has already stated they WILL preload Linux. With first class laptop support, FreeBSD could very easily work it's way into a situation where it could get vendors to preload it on different laptops. To me the pccard support works well on 2.2.8, I'm not completely up to date on all the changes that need to be made for what you are proposing for -current. I need to understand that better before committing my time, but I am willing to help in understanding this to see how I can help the effort. -- Alan DuBoff - Conductor Software Orchestration, Inc. aland@SoftOrchestra.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Mar 21 14:17:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rainey.blueneptune.com (rainey.blueneptune.com [209.133.45.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8FD014CD4 for ; Sun, 21 Mar 1999 14:17:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aland@blueneptune.com) Received: from blueneptune.com (ppp133.blueneptune.com [209.133.45.133]) by rainey.blueneptune.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA08109; Sun, 21 Mar 1999 14:16:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aland@blueneptune.com) Message-ID: <36F56DB8.C8096E09@blueneptune.com> Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 14:07:52 -0800 From: Alan DuBoff Reply-To: aland@SoftOrchestra.com Organization: Software Orchestration, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: UCHIYAMA Yasushi Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New design of PCMCIA/CardBus support. (work in progress) References: <19990320034421D.uch@nop.or.jp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Uchiyama-sama (I like that, it has a ring to it!;-) I'm unclear as to your CardBus support and see you have the 3c575-TX listed as a driver for it. A couple of us had talked about porting the Linux 3c574-TX, the 16 bit little brother of the driver you have. It would be bad to duplicate effort for a driver as such, and wanted to find out if you knew of any port in existence. Obviously the 574 is not a CardBus, so I'm sure you wouldn't be working on it yourself, but you might know of others that are. I don't think that Linux has 3c575-TX support today, and your efforts will surely be appreciated by others, since I know many that do use 3c575-TX cards on NT. Does NetBSD also have a 3c574-TX driver completed already? I've only see the Linux driver as available other than the 9x/NT driver which 3Com ships themself. Boku no musuko to musume mo chotto violin gakko iku, ja mata ne... -- Alan DuBoff - Conductor Software Orchestration, Inc. aland@SoftOrchestra.com UCHIYAMA Yasushi wrote: > > I'm working PCMCIA/CardBus kernel support under newconfig. > My working snapshot is available from > > ftp://ftp.nop.or.jp/users/uch/PCMCIA/FreeBSD/sys990315-pcmcia990319.patch.gz > > This is for the patched source codes. sys990315-pcmcia990319.patch.gz > needs newconfig source codes at the date of March 15, 1999. > > http://www.jp.freebsd.org/~furuta/nc-snapshot/snap_31_19990315.diff > (apply against 3.1-RELEASE) > > CARDBUS is the sample config file. pccardc, pccardd and pccard.conf > are not needed. > Drivers are almost taken from NetBSD. To support auto IRQ/io/mem allocation, > added its resource management code and introduced bus_space(9). > Card insertion/removal operation doesn't work fine. > > - PCI-CardBus bridge: > RICOH RB/RL5C478 (cbb) > TI PCI1131 (cbb) > - PCIC > i82365 comaptible (pcic) > > - CardBus network card: > 3Com 3C575TX (xl,ep) > 3Com 3C575BTX (xl) > - 16-bit PCMCIA network card: > 3Com 3C589D (ep) > NE2000 compatible (ed) > Fujitsu MB8696x based (fe) > Megahertz X-JACK (sn) > --- > UCHIYAMA Yasushi > uch@nop.or.jp > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Mar 21 18:23:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from gjp.erols.com (alex-va-n008c079.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E242914BF8 for ; Sun, 21 Mar 1999 18:23:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA49707; Sun, 21 Mar 1999 21:23:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: Patrick Seal Cc: Colin Eric Johnson , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: Dell port replicator and lattitude? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 17 Mar 1999 16:16:55 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 21:23:17 -0500 Message-ID: <49704.922069397@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Patrick Seal wrote in message ID : > Good. I have the port replicator, the 3COM NIC loads under the xl0 > driver. I haven't tried using the USB ports, but the laptop itself has > those too. The USB ports on the replicator work also. Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Mar 22 2:13:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.axis.de (hermes.axis.de [194.163.241.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 777B914ED8; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 02:13:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from maret@axis.de) Received: from erlangen01.axis.de by hermes.axis.de via smtpd (for hub.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.18]) with SMTP; 22 Mar 1999 10:12:55 UT Received: (private information removed) Message-ID: <91DA20EC3C3DD211833400A0245A4EA907A992@erlangen01.axis.de> From: Alexander Maret To: "'freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org'" Cc: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: card0 Device not configured Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 11:13:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sorry, i already posted this message but as i'm not sure that it arrived in the mailing list i repost it know: Hello, sorry if this topic has already been discussed, but I'm new to this list and could not find a solution in the archive, though many people had very similar problems. If I invoke pccardc with the option "pccardmem 0xd0000" I get the error message: "Device card0 not configured". I'm running FBSD 3.1R. I first tried to remove the kldload command in rc.pccard, and enabled kernel support for device card0 + the pcic entries. As this didn't work I disabled the pcic entries in kernelconfig and reactivated the kldload command in rc.pccard. The same error as above. Then I read in the archive that some people had to add a card1 device + more pcic entries in the kernel config file, but even this didn't work for my configuration. Did anybody solve this problem? My /dev/card0 is there and i even deleted and remade it several times. I've even added card1, card2, card3 and card4 device. If I do a "pccardc dumpics" I get: "0 devices configured". At boottime I see a message that pccard-device "ed" has been added. Can anyone help? Thanks, Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Mar 22 7:49:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from isds.duke.edu (davinci.isds.duke.edu [152.3.22.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04FE514E71 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 07:49:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sto@stat.Duke.EDU) Received: from cayenne.isds.duke.edu (cayenne.isds.duke.edu [152.3.22.11]) by isds.duke.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA30382 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 10:49:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from sto@localhost) by cayenne.isds.duke.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01708 for freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 10:49:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990322104912.G667@stat.Duke.EDU> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 10:49:12 -0500 From: "Sean O'Connell" To: FreeBSD mobile Subject: APM panics kernel (3.1 Release) Reply-To: "Sean O'Connell" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 X-Organization: Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi All- As I reported earlier, my HP Omnibook 900's will panic instantly when I use the apm command; however, the function keys seem to work just fine. Relevant bits from dmesg: chip5: rev 0x02 on pci0.7.3 apm0 on isa apm: found APM BIOS version 1.2 from kernel config file: device apm0 at isa? (It didn't make any difference if I had the flags 0x31 on or off) I have apm_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf If I type apm at the command line: Fatal trap 9: general protection fault while in kernel mode instruction pointer = 0x48:0x41e4 stack pointer = 0x10:0xf52cacc4 frame pointer = 0x10:0xf52cacc4 code segment = base 0xf00f0000, limit 0xfffe, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 0, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL=0 current process = 240(apm) interrupt mask = trap number = 9 panic: general protection fault Is there anything that I can/should do to further help? I'd really like my users to be able to use xbatt, so they don't ruin their batteries. I didn't see anything very similar in the gnats database. I also haven't seen any recent changes to the apm code. Thanks S -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sean O'Connell Email: sean@stat.Duke.EDU Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Phone: (919) 684-5419 Duke University Fax: (919) 684-8594 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Mar 22 17:25:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from schooner.svjava.com (schooner.svjava.com [204.75.228.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B68D415207 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 17:25:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kozowski@svjava.com) Received: (from kozowski@localhost) by schooner.svjava.com (8.9.1a/svjava.com) id RAA07879 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 17:24:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 17:24:42 -0800 From: Eric Kozowski To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: problems w/ Megahertz 56k modem pc card Message-ID: <19990322172442.A7851@haydenisland.verio.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i have a 3com/megahertz 3ccm556 modem card i'm trying to get working under 2.2.8 + PAO. I've checked irqs and memory addreses and made sure they match. the modem works fine on the same laptop under win98. when i insert the card, i get the following: Card inserted, slot 1 Slot 1, unfielded interrupt (0) Return IRQ=7 the card is configured for irq 7 by pnp under win98. i rebuild the kernel so that com2 uses irq7. i don't see an entry in pccard.conf for this card, however, i'm not getting as far as getting an error about that. any help is appreciated. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Mar 22 18:30: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from pn.wagsky.com (wagsky.vip.best.com [206.86.71.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAE3915238 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 18:29:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mailman@wagsky.com) Received: from localhost (mailman@localhost) by pn.wagsky.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA12183; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 18:29:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mailman@pn.wagsky.com) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 18:29:06 -0800 (PST) From: Keeper of the mail To: Eric Kozowski Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problems w/ Megahertz 56k modem pc card In-Reply-To: <19990322172442.A7851@haydenisland.verio.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 22 Mar 1999, Eric Kozowski wrote: > i have a 3com/megahertz 3ccm556 modem card i'm trying to get working under > 2.2.8 + PAO. I've checked irqs and memory addreses and made sure they > match. the modem works fine on the same laptop under win98. [...] Looks like you need the proper entry in /etc/pccard.conf for my 3CCM156BI, I use card "3COM" "3CCM156 B" config 0x21 "sio1" 11 insert echo 3COM 3CCM156 B inserted remove echo 3COM 3CCM156 B removed the "guru meditation numbers" are 0x21 and 11 config index^ IRQ^ look at the output of "pccardc dumpcis" to try to select the proper one. It looks like gibberish, but you should see Config index = 0xmm I/O address # 1: block start - 0xnnn" with 0xnnn the familiar addresses of COM1-4 and 0xmm being the "proper" config. You may need to look at the "default" configuration to determine which IRQs are available. You should also look at dmesg.boot to determine which IRQs are still under FreeBSD. Remember that pcic chews up one itself. Can't configure that one directly through the boot flags, but the new boot loader will do it for you ;-) Jeff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Mar 22 21:26:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from schooner.svjava.com (schooner.svjava.com [204.75.228.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E78B514CEE for ; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 21:26:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kozowski@svjava.com) Received: (from kozowski@localhost) by schooner.svjava.com (8.9.1a/svjava.com) id VAA08557; Mon, 22 Mar 1999 21:26:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 21:26:07 -0800 From: Eric Kozowski To: Keeper of the mail Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problems w/ Megahertz 56k modem pc card Message-ID: <19990322212607.A8531@haydenisland.verio.net> References: <19990322172442.A7851@haydenisland.verio.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Keeper of the mail on Mon, Mar 22, 1999 at 06:29:06PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Mar 22, 1999 at 06:29:06PM -0800, Keeper of the mail wrote: > Looks like you need the proper entry in /etc/pccard.conf > > for my 3CCM156BI, I use > > card "3COM" "3CCM156 B" > config 0x21 "sio1" 11 > insert echo 3COM 3CCM156 B inserted > remove echo 3COM 3CCM156 B removed yep, built one based upon the output from pccardc dumpcis > the "guru meditation numbers" are 0x21 and 11 > config index^ IRQ^ > > look at the output of "pccardc dumpcis" to try to select the > proper one. It looks like gibberish, but you should see > Config index = 0xmm > I/O address # 1: block start - 0xnnn" > with 0xnnn the familiar addresses of COM1-4 and > 0xmm being the "proper" config. You may need to look at the > "default" configuration to determine which IRQs are available. yep, figured that out, too. still, no luck. thanks for the input, though. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Mar 23 1:13:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.axis.de (hermes.axis.de [194.163.241.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EFD0E14E1E; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 01:13:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from maret@axis.de) Received: from erlangen01.axis.de by hermes.axis.de via smtpd (for hub.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.18]) with SMTP; 23 Mar 1999 09:13:19 UT Received: (private information removed) Message-ID: <91DA20EC3C3DD211833400A0245A4EA907A993@erlangen01.axis.de> From: Alexander Maret To: 'Sean O'Connell' Cc: "'freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org'" , "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: card0 Device not configured Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 10:13:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Sean, I'm not sure if FBSD recognizes my PCCARD Controller correctly because it shows some wired IRQ (255). On the other hand it says that it has initialized card ed0. Here is the complete dmesg output: Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE #0: Sun Mar 21 13:15:37 CET 1999 root@lola.darkworld.local:/usr/src/sys/compile/KERNEL Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium/P54C (132.17-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping=12 Features=0x1bf real memory = 41943040 (40960K bytes) avail memory = 38547456 (37644K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xf024a000. Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x00 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x00 on pci0.1.0 vga0: rev 0x00 int a irq 255 on pci0.3.0 chip2: rev 0xfe int a irq 255 on pci0.4.0 Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> ed0 not found at 0x280 atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa psm0 irq 12 on isa psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 8250 sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio1 not found at 0x2f8 fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 4126MB (8452080 sectors), 8944 cyls, 15 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc0: unit 1 (atapi): , removable, accel, dma, iordis acd0: drive speed 689KB/sec, 128KB cache acd0: supported read types: CD-DA acd0: Audio: play, 256 volume levels acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray acd0: Medium: CD-ROM 120mm data disc loaded, unlocked ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 on isa ppc0: SMC FDC37C665GT chipset (PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode nlpt0: on ppbus 0 nlpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus 0 vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface Initializing PC-card drivers: ed Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug Bye, Alex > Hi Alex- > > As a first question, does dmesg show your PCCARD controller? What > IRQ is it being assigned? It seems to like to use IRQ 3 and if you > have anything on the IRQ (in your BIOS) it could cause problems. Most > often caused by I/R port turned on and using COM2. > > After that, make sure that your /etc/pccard.conf has reasonable > IRQ values. Also, you may want to set the entry for memory to > "memory 0xd0000 16k" in /etc/pccard.conf (suggested by Alan DuBoff). > > Good Luck, > S > > On 1999 Mar 22, Alexander Maret (aka maret@axis.de) wrote: > > > > sorry if this topic has already been discussed, but I'm new to this > > list and could not find a solution in the archive, though > many people > > had very similar problems. > > > > If I invoke pccardc with the option "pccardmem 0xd0000" I get the > > error message: "Device card0 not configured". I'm running FBSD 3.1R. > > I first tried to remove the kldload command in rc.pccard, > and enabled > > kernel support for device card0 + the pcic entries. As this didn't > > work I disabled the pcic entries in kernelconfig and reactivated > > the kldload command in rc.pccard. The same error as above. Then I > > read in the archive that some people had to add a card1 device + > > more pcic entries in the kernel config file, but even this didn't > > work for my configuration. > > > > Did anybody solve this problem? > > > > My /dev/card0 is there and i even deleted and remade it > several times. > > I've even added card1, card2, card3 and card4 device. > > If I do a "pccardc dumpics" I get: "0 devices configured". > > At boottime I see a message that pccard-device "ed" has been added. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Mar 23 10:18:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from isds.duke.edu (davinci.isds.duke.edu [152.3.22.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F50B14BFA for ; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 10:18:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sto@stat.Duke.EDU) Received: from cayenne.isds.duke.edu (cayenne.isds.duke.edu [152.3.22.11]) by isds.duke.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05016 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 13:17:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (from sto@localhost) by cayenne.isds.duke.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA02129 for freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 13:17:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990323131738.B2058@stat.Duke.EDU> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 13:17:38 -0500 From: "Sean O'Connell" To: FreeBSD mobile Subject: Force pccard controller to specific irq Reply-To: "Sean O'Connell" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 X-Organization: Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi- I have been continually frustrated by the way the IRQ is being selected for the PCCard controller. It is grabbing IRQ3 regardless of whether I put something into /boot/loader.rc or not. Is there a way to hardcode IRQ10 into the kernel config file or the /sys/pccard code? The problem is that under Windoze, the card controller uses IRQ10, but under FreeBSD ep0 has a really poor go at it when using IRQ10 (it's fine on IRQ11 if I define it in the kernel that way but this really limits what can be done with the laptop ). It behaves as though that IRQ really isn't free (almost like a duplex mismatch, but it's on a hub and I don't think ep0 can do full-duplex). It all boils down to my desire to have IRQ3 back. I have included /etc/pccard.conf and my kernel. /etc/pccard.conf: # Sample PCCARD configuration file # # Removing all IRQ conflicts from this file can't be done because of some # IRQ-selfish PC-cards. So if you want to use some of these cards in # your machine, you will be forced to modify their IRQ parameters from # the following list. # # IRQ == 0 means "allocate free IRQ from IRQ pool" # IRQ == 16 means "do not use IRQ (e.g. PIO mode)" # # $Id: pccard.conf.sample,v 1.24.2.1 1999/02/05 09:42:27 markm Exp $ # Generally available IO ports io 0x240-0x360 # Generally available IRQs (Built-in sound-card owners remove 5) irq 10 11 # Available memory slots memory 0xd4000 96k # 3Com Etherlink III 3C589D card "3Com Corporation" "3C589D" config 0x1 "ep0" 11 insert echo 3Com Etherlink III inserted insert /etc/pccard_ether ep0 remove echo 3Com Etherlink III removed remove /sbin/ifconfig ep0 delete # Linksys Ethernet card card "Linksys" "Combo PCMCIA EthernetCard (EC" config 0x1 "ed0" 11 insert echo Linksys EthernetCard inserted insert /etc/pccard_ether ed0 remove echo Linksys EthernetCard removed remove /sbin/ifconfig ed0 delete # Eiger 28.8 Fax/Modem card "PCMCIA " "28.8K Fax/Modem " config 0x1f "sio2" 10 insert echo PCMCIA Fax/Modem inserted remove echo PCMCIA Fax/Modem removed Or the kernel: # $Id: GENERIC,v 1.143.2.2 1999/02/15 02:50:07 des Exp $ machine "i386" cpu "I686_CPU" ident OMNIBOOK maxusers 32 options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options NFS #Network Filesystem options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options FAILSAFE #Be conservative options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options "VM86" #allow vm86 memory calls config kernel root on wd0 controller isa0 controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 flags 0xa0ffa0ff disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus options ATAPI_STATIC #Don't do it as an LKM device acd0 #IDE CD-ROM # atkbdc0 controlls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse controller atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD tty device atkbd0 at isa? tty irq 1 device psm0 at isa? tty irq 12 device vga0 at isa? port ? conflicts # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? tty device npx0 at isa? port IO_NPX irq 13 # Laptop support # # Advanced Power Management device apm0 at isa? # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support # - note -> need to set irq to same as Winders in controller card0 device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" flags 0x10 tty irq 4 device sio2 at isa? port "IO_COM3" tty irq 10 # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? port? net irq 7 controller ppbus0 device nlpt0 at ppbus? #device plip0 at ppbus? #device ppi0 at ppbus? #controller vpo0 at ppbus? # 3Com NIC device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 11 iomem 0xd8000 device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 11 # Sound card ... ha ha ha ha device pcm0 at isa? port ? tty irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x10 pseudo-device loop pseudo-device vn pseudo-device ether pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's # KTRACE enables the system-call tracing facility ktrace(2). # This adds 4 KB bloat to your kernel, and slightly increases # the costs of each syscall. options KTRACE #kernel tracing # This provides support for System V shared memory and message queues. # options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG # The `bpfilter' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. Be # aware of the legal and administrative consequences of enabling this # option. The number of devices determines the maximum number of # simultaneous BPF clients programs runnable. pseudo-device bpfilter 4 #Berkeley packet filter -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sean O'Connell Email: sean@stat.Duke.EDU Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Phone: (919) 684-5419 Duke University Fax: (919) 684-8594 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Mar 23 10:26:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7165F14D85 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 10:26:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA06320; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 11:26:36 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA14860; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 11:26:36 -0700 Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 11:26:36 -0700 Message-Id: <199903231826.LAA14860@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Sean O'Connell" Cc: FreeBSD mobile Subject: Re: Force pccard controller to specific irq In-Reply-To: <19990323131738.B2058@stat.Duke.EDU> References: <19990323131738.B2058@stat.Duke.EDU> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Is there a way to hardcode IRQ10 into the kernel config file or > the /sys/pccard code? No, and yes. Find the place in the code where the IRQ is used and hard-code it to IRQ10. As you can imagine, this solution is not acceptable as a 'general' solution, but it may get you going. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Mar 23 13:24:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from Bespin.worldnet.net (bespin.worldnet.net [195.3.3.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A620214D41 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 13:24:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pcasidy@worldnet.fr) Received: from greatoak.home (p15-223.province.worldnet.fr [195.3.15.223]) by Bespin.worldnet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA17805 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 22:21:52 +0100 (CET) Received: (from pcasidy@localhost) by greatoak.home (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA01994 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 22:17:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pcasidy) Message-Id: <199903232117.WAA01994@greatoak.home> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 22:17:32 +0100 (CET) From: Philippe CASIDY Subject: APM Delay To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! I have a laptop with an APM Bios and a suspend to disk mode. It works great but the little boring problem is that it goes in suspend mode after one minutes of inactivity. The problem is that I do not know how to increase this timeout? I have try to modify some parameters in the BIOS with no success! Thansk for any tip! Phil. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Mar 23 13:26:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from sloth.cs.unm.edu (sloth.cs.unm.edu [198.59.151.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A66E15434 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 13:26:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from colinj@cs.unm.edu) Received: from waimea.cs.unm.edu ([198.83.92.103]) by sloth.cs.unm.edu with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10PYhd-0002no-00; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 14:27:13 -0700 Received: from localhost (colinj@localhost) by waimea.cs.unm.edu (980427.SGI.8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29914; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 14:25:55 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from colinj@cs.unm.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: waimea.cs.unm.edu: colinj owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 14:25:55 -0700 From: Colin Eric Johnson To: Patrick Seal Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dell port replicator and lattitude? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 17 Mar 1999, Patrick Seal wrote: > Good. I have the port replicator, the 3COM NIC loads under the xl0 > driver. I haven't tried using the USB ports, but the laptop itself has > those too. > > On Tue, 16 Mar 1999, Colin Eric Johnson wrote: > > > > > I'm wondering if any of the Lattitude owner/operators have any experience > > with the port replicators (docking stations) that Dell sells? Good or bad, > > I'd like to hear them. Although the reports are limited this sounds like good news. I'll elevate things a little, as I review my options, do any of the lattitude owners have the Dock Expansion Station that Dell sells? What, if any, reports are there on this list about that? I'm particularly interested in the behavior of the SCSI interface/controller. Colin E. Johnson | colinj@unm.edu | http://www.unm.edu/~colinj/ Life is a movie, write your own ending - J. Henson, et al. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Mar 23 13:50:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from marinemwr.or.jp (konnect3.marinemwr.or.jp [203.181.108.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF52B14E57 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 13:50:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from neillt@coastalnet.com) Received: from zippy (CCT86.marinemwr.or.jp [202.239.139.86]) by marinemwr.or.jp (8.8.8/3.6W+07/25/98) with SMTP id GAA12707 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 06:50:30 +0900 (JST) From: Neill Thornton Reply-To: neillt@coastalnet.com To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Force pccard controller to specific irq Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 06:47:56 +0900 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.17] Content-Type: text/plain References: <199903231826.LAA14860@mt.sri.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99032406490900.01336@zippy> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 24 Mar 1999, Nate Williams wrote: > > Is there a way to hardcode IRQ10 into the kernel config file or > > the /sys/pccard code? I did it by modifying pcic.c around line 785, I think. That was on 3.1-RELEASE. Look around there for the exact line. Neill --- HN Neill Thornton, USN Go Navy!! 1st Battalion, 8th Marines Battalion Aid Station neillt@marinemwr.or.jp / neillt@coastalnet.com Powered by FreeBSD... see how @ www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Mar 23 13:52:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from piro.coqui.net (piro.coqui.net [206.99.218.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA9FF1548A for ; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 13:52:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ring0@mindspring.com) Received: from freebsd (mayaguez-ppp28.coqui.net [206.99.219.28]) by piro.coqui.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28284 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 17:51:45 GMT Message-Id: <199903231751.RAA28284@piro.coqui.net> Reply-To: From: "Jim Robinson" To: Subject: Gateway Telepath XJ2000 PCMCIA modem Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 17:46:09 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i am trying to get this pcmcia card modem to work on my gateway solo 2200 laptop. the docs that came with it identify it as an "XJ2000", but running a "cardctl ident" under linux shows it as an "XJ1560". i am having an impossible time trying to get my kernel configured and everything setup so i can use this thing. i won't go into all the details of what i've tried since none of it has worked. basically, i've uncommented the device and controller lines for pcmcia in my kernel config. and i editted some of the rc.* files. an error during boot tells me: "device sio1: irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs" (in linux, my modem shows up on /dev/cua1, but in windows on com3) then there is a "no card configured" later during boot. i apologize for not having a verbatum dmesg to post, but i just got done doing some hard drive rearranging and have to reinstall fbsd next. i downloaded the PAO package, but the page says it requires fbsd 2.8. being so new to fbsd, i don't know if this is something i can work around or even where to start. i am running: freebsd 3.1-R gateway solo 2200 laptop with: p166 mmx 56mb ram any help would be greatly appreciated! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Mar 23 14:23: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C07514D01 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 14:23:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA00861; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 14:16:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199903232216.OAA00861@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Sean O'Connell" Cc: FreeBSD mobile Subject: Re: Force pccard controller to specific irq In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 23 Mar 1999 13:17:38 EST." <19990323131738.B2058@stat.Duke.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 14:16:23 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hi- > > I have been continually frustrated by the way the IRQ is being > selected for the PCCard controller. It is grabbing IRQ3 > regardless of whether I put something into /boot/loader.rc or not. > Is there a way to hardcode IRQ10 into the kernel config file or > the /sys/pccard code? If you're using 3.1 or later, make sure you've removed the redundant load of the pcic module in /etc/rc.pccard. Also, if the correct variable is set in /boot/loader.rc, the pcic driver will use the specified IRQ. Make sure you haven't made a typo. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Mar 23 14:58: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 007DC153BB for ; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 14:58:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA08445; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 15:57:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA16249; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 15:57:41 -0700 Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 15:57:41 -0700 Message-Id: <199903232257.PAA16249@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Mike Smith Cc: "Sean O'Connell" , FreeBSD mobile Subject: Re: Force pccard controller to specific irq In-Reply-To: <199903232216.OAA00861@dingo.cdrom.com> References: <19990323131738.B2058@stat.Duke.EDU> <199903232216.OAA00861@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I have been continually frustrated by the way the IRQ is being > > selected for the PCCard controller. It is grabbing IRQ3 > > regardless of whether I put something into /boot/loader.rc or not. > > Is there a way to hardcode IRQ10 into the kernel config file or > > the /sys/pccard code? > > If you're using 3.1 or later, make sure you've removed the redundant > load of the pcic module in /etc/rc.pccard. This has been fixed in the rc.pccard script of -stable and -current. Nate > Also, if the correct variable is set in /boot/loader.rc, the pcic > driver will use the specified IRQ. Make sure you haven't made a typo. > > -- > \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith > \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au > \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org > \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Mar 23 16:26:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from netrinsics.com (unknown [202.99.61.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E18F514DAD for ; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 16:26:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robinson@netrinsics.com) Received: (from robinson@localhost) by netrinsics.com (8.9.2/8.8.7) id IAA58195; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 08:21:11 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from robinson) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 08:21:11 +0800 (CST) From: Michael Robinson Message-Id: <199903240021.IAA58195@netrinsics.com> To: sean@stat.Duke.EDU Subject: Re: Force pccard controller to specific irq Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <19990323131738.B2058@stat.Duke.EDU> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Sean O'Connell" writes: >I have been continually frustrated by the way the IRQ is being >selected for the PCCard controller. It is grabbing IRQ3 >regardless of whether I put something into /boot/loader.rc or not. >Is there a way to hardcode IRQ10 into the kernel config file or >the /sys/pccard code? To specify the IRQ for the PCIC, put the following in your boot/loader.rc file: set machdep.pccard.pcic.irq=10 To enable a specific interrupt that you "know" is available and needed for a PC-CARD (for example, IRQ9, that my ethernet card needs), add something like this to /sys/pccard/pccard.c: + slt->ctrl->irqs |= 0x200; + desc->irqmask |= 0x200; if ((slt->ctrl->irqs & desc->irqmask) == 0) If the IRQ actually *is* being used for something, the request will fail further down in the code anyway. The IRQ configuration commands in /etc/pccard.conf are almost completely non-functional. Hopefully a better compromise between architectural purity and real-world necessities will be possible under the pending "new bus" code. -Michael Robinson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Mar 23 21:21:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from isds.duke.edu (davinci.isds.duke.edu [152.3.22.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B03A15308 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 1999 21:21:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sto@stat.Duke.EDU) Received: from cayenne.isds.duke.edu (cayenne.isds.duke.edu [152.3.22.11]) by isds.duke.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA07350; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 00:20:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from sto@localhost) by cayenne.isds.duke.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA02366; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 00:20:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990324002044.D2342@stat.Duke.EDU> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 00:20:44 -0500 From: "Sean O'Connell" To: Mike Smith Cc: FreeBSD mobile Subject: Re: Force pccard controller to specific irq Reply-To: "Sean O'Connell" References: <19990323131738.B2058@stat.Duke.EDU> <199903232216.OAA00861@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2 In-Reply-To: <199903232216.OAA00861@dingo.cdrom.com>; from Mike Smith on Tue, Mar 23, 1999 at 02:16:23PM -0800 X-Organization: Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999 Mar 23, Mike Smith (aka mike@smith.net.au) wrote: > > If you're using 3.1 or later, make sure you've removed the redundant > load of the pcic module in /etc/rc.pccard. I was unwittingly responsible for the recent (too many due to my typos) changes in /etc/rc.pccard > Also, if the correct variable is set in /boot/loader.rc, the pcic > driver will use the specified IRQ. Make sure you haven't made a typo. What would be the correct call? This is 3.1-R (I will be updating to 3.1-Stable on these guys). I had tried adding the following to /boot/loader.rc: set machdep.pccard.pcic_irq=10 both before and after and without a load /kernel I think I even tried using a load pcic.ko, also, but to no avail ... it _always_ uses IRQ3. I know this is unpopular comment, but could we allow for a kernel option to set the pcic_irq value a la PAO folks? Thanks ... I will try some of the other folks suggestions viz hardcoding it in the /sys/pccard/{pcic,pccard}.c S -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sean O'Connell Email: sean@stat.Duke.EDU Institute of Statistics and Decision Sciences Phone: (919) 684-5419 Duke University Fax: (919) 684-8594 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Mar 24 0:36:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.axis.de (hermes.axis.de [194.163.241.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C40714E1F; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 00:36:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from maret@axis.de) Received: from erlangen01.axis.de by hermes.axis.de via smtpd (for hub.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.18]) with SMTP; 24 Mar 1999 08:36:11 UT Received: (private information removed) Message-ID: <91DA20EC3C3DD211833400A0245A4EA907A99A@erlangen01.axis.de> From: Alexander Maret To: 'Sean O'Connell' Cc: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" , "'freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: card0 Device not configured Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 09:36:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello Sean, > > So it sees the chipset, but it doesn't look like the support is in > the kernel. Here are the relevant bits from a successful probe: > > > I have the following entries in my kernel (when using built-in > pcic support: > > controller card0 > device pcic0 at card? > device pcic1 at card? > > For the kld pcic, all you need is > > controller card0 > I tried those both possibilities, but it makes no difference. I always get the same dmesg output. > That having been said, do you still have windoze on this? What IRQ > does it think it should be running on? I've installed Windows now and the card works fine. But even Windows doesn't show any IRQs it just shows I/O-Memory space: Cirrus Logic PCIC compatible PCMCIA-Bridge: I/O-space: FCFC - FCFF no IRQs listed PCMCIA-Card Service: memory adress: 02800000 - 02800FFF no IRQs listed PCMCIA-Ethernet Adapter: I/O-space: 0320-033F IRQ: 10 > Is anything running on IRQ 3? Yes, my COM2 is running un IRQ 3 > What kind of laptop is this? Is there one like it at the FreeBSD lap- > top compatibility site It's a Yakumo Mediapack P133 > (http://www.cse.ucsc.edu/~dkulp/fbsd/laptop.html) > If you do have the card0 controller installed, what are the available > IRQ's on your system? in my pccard.conf i enabled the following things: io 0x240-0x360 irq 3 10 11 13 15 memory 0xd4000 96K Bye, Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Mar 24 4:44: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from Bespin.worldnet.net (bespin.worldnet.net [195.3.3.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F29114DBF for ; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 04:43:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pcasidy@worldnet.fr) Received: from greatoak.home (p14-011.province.worldnet.fr [195.3.14.11]) by Bespin.worldnet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03929; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 13:41:32 +0100 (CET) Received: (from pcasidy@localhost) by greatoak.home (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01212; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 13:40:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pcasidy) Message-Id: <199903241240.NAA01212@greatoak.home> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 13:40:10 +0100 (CET) From: Philippe CASIDY Subject: Re: APM Delay To: pcasidy@worldnet.fr Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199903232117.WAA01994@greatoak.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 23 Mar, Philippe CASIDY wrote: > Hi! > > I have a laptop with an APM Bios and a suspend to disk mode. It works > great but the little boring problem is that it goes in suspend mode > after one minutes of inactivity. > > The problem is that I do not know how to increase this timeout? I have > try to modify some parameters in the BIOS with no success! > > Thansk for any tip! > > Phil. The version I use is FreeBSD 2.2.8R! I have just received 3.1R Phil. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Mar 24 8:55: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from f77.nop.or.jp (f77.nop.or.jp [210.145.217.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE9F14EDD for ; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 08:53:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from uch@nop.or.jp) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by f77.nop.or.jp (8.9.1a/3.7W) with ESMTP id BAA11689; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 01:52:59 +0900 (JST) To: aland@SoftOrchestra.com, aland@blueneptune.com Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New design of PCMCIA/CardBus support. (work in progress) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 21 Mar 1999 14:07:52 -0800" <36F56DB8.C8096E09@blueneptune.com> References: <36F56DB8.C8096E09@blueneptune.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.92 on Emacs 20.2 / Mule 3.0 (MOMIJINOGA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990325015259T.uch@nop.or.jp> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 01:52:59 +0900 From: UCHIYAMA Yasushi X-Dispatcher: imput version 971024 Lines: 17 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org | I'm unclear as to your CardBus support and see you have the 3c575-TX listed as | a driver for it. A couple of us had talked about porting the Linux 3c574-TX, | the 16 bit little brother of the driver you have. 3c575TX, BTX driver is merely CardBus attachment version of xl driver. linux: drivers/net/3c59x.c NetBSD: ftp://nandra.iri.co.jp/pub/NetBSD/CardBus/ | Does NetBSD also have a 3c574-TX driver completed already? I've only see the | Linux driver as available other than the 9x/NT driver which 3Com ships | themself. Sorry I don't have 3c574. so I don't know about it. But I have a patch which NetBSD-1.3I:sys/dev/ic/elink3.c ported to FreeBSD. Do you test it? --- UCHIYAMA Yasushi uch@nop.or.jp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Mar 24 16: 2: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from server2.snelnet.nl (server2.snelnet.nl [192.87.106.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26BBE14C80 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 16:01:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rvdp@surfnet.nl) Received: from adsl-145-99-64-197.snelnet.nl (adsl-145-99-64-197.snelnet.nl [145.99.64.197]) by server2.snelnet.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA08746 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 01:03:36 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 00:58:56 +0100 (CET) From: Ronald van der Pol X-Sender: rvdp@adsl-145-99-64-197.snelnet.nl To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: is 3c589D and multicast working on 3.1-RELEASE? Message-ID: Organisation: SURFnet bv Address: "Radboudburcht, P.O. Box 19035, 3501 DA Utrecht, NL" Phone: +31 302 305 305 Telefax: +31 302 305 329 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have installed FreeBSD 3.1 on a Dell Latitude CPi notebook. I do *not* have PAO installed. It has a 3C589D PCCARD Ethernet card. It is working fine, but multicast does not work yet: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE (LAPTOP) #3: Sat Mar 6 18:13:35 CET 1999 $ ifconfig -a lp0: flags=8810 mtu 1500 zp0: flags=1843 mtu 1500 inet 145.99.64.197 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast 145.99.64.207 ether 00:60:08:8a:84:8b tun0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 sl0: flags=c010 mtu 552 ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 $ Should multicast be working on this card? The card is working with multicast on Micros Segmentation fault (core dumped) rvdp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Mar 24 16: 5:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4115314C80 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 16:05:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA18498; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 17:04:50 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA20740; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 17:04:50 -0700 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 17:04:50 -0700 Message-Id: <199903250004.RAA20740@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Ronald van der Pol Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: is 3c589D and multicast working on 3.1-RELEASE? In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I have installed FreeBSD 3.1 on a Dell Latitude CPi notebook. I do > *not* have PAO installed. It has a 3C589D PCCARD Ethernet card. It > is working fine, but multicast does not work yet: > zp0: flags=1843 mtu 1500 > inet 145.99.64.197 netmask 0xfffffff0 broadcast 145.99.64.207 > ether 00:60:08:8a:84:8b Multicast doesn't work on the zp0 device. If you configure the PCCARD support and use the ep0 device it'll work. Unfortunately, things are apparently very broken in 3.* with regards to laptops, so I'd recommend going back to 2.2.8. (Note, you don't need PAO to do laptop support.) Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Mar 24 16:24:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from isbalham.ist.co.uk (isbalham.ist.co.uk [192.31.26.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8581E14E28 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 16:24:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from gid.co.uk (uucp@localhost) by isbalham.ist.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id AAA03408; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 00:24:12 GMT (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from [194.32.164.2] by seagoon.gid.co.uk; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 00:15:32 GMT X-Sender: rb@194.32.164.1 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199903250004.RAA20740@mt.sri.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 00:15:31 +0000 To: Nate Williams From: Bob Bishop Subject: Re: is 3c589D and multicast working on 3.1-RELEASE? Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, At 5:04 pm -0700 24/3/99, Nate Williams wrote: >[...] >Unfortunately, things are apparently very broken in 3.* with regards to >laptops, so I'd recommend going back to 2.2.8.[etc] Just FTR, I'm seeing no problems whatsoever with 3.1-R on a ThinkPad 365XD and an NE2000-alike netcard. -- Bob Bishop (0118) 977 4017 international code +44 118 rb@gid.co.uk fax (0118) 989 4254 between 0800 and 1800 UK To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Mar 24 16:25:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75AA114E28 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 16:25:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA18675; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 17:25:36 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA20909; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 17:25:35 -0700 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 17:25:35 -0700 Message-Id: <199903250025.RAA20909@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Bob Bishop Cc: Nate Williams , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: is 3c589D and multicast working on 3.1-RELEASE? In-Reply-To: References: <199903250004.RAA20740@mt.sri.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >[...] > >Unfortunately, things are apparently very broken in 3.* with regards to > >laptops, so I'd recommend going back to 2.2.8.[etc] > > Just FTR, I'm seeing no problems whatsoever with 3.1-R on a ThinkPad 365XD > and an NE2000-alike netcard. I know a number of people who are using 3.1R, but they had to fight to get it working. :( Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Mar 24 20:14:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from chandra.eatell.msr.prug.or.jp (dhcp418.6bone.nec.co.jp [202.247.4.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0687014CCA for ; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 20:14:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from y-nakaga@nwsl.mesh.ad.jp) Received: from nwsl.mesh.ad.jp (localhost.eatell.msr.prug.or.jp [127.0.0.1]) by chandra.eatell.msr.prug.or.jp (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA23132; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 04:12:54 GMT Message-Id: <199903250412.EAA23132@chandra.eatell.msr.prug.or.jp> To: Nate Williams Cc: Ronald van der Pol , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: is 3c589D and multicast working on 3.1-RELEASE? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 24 Mar 1999 17:04:50 MST." <199903250004.RAA20740@mt.sri.com> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 13:12:53 +0900 From: NAKAGAWA Yoshihisa Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > laptops, so I'd recommend going back to 2.2.8. (Note, you don't need > PAO to do laptop support.) No! Some PCIC (TI CardBus bridge, ...) need PAO. Originarry PC-Card support has problem for i82365SL-DF step compatible PCIC. -- NAKAGAWA, Yoshihisa y-nakaga@nwsl.mesh.ad.jp nakagawa@jp.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Mar 24 20:54: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA8C114CCA for ; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 20:54:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA20570; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 21:53:44 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA21892; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 21:53:43 -0700 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 21:53:43 -0700 Message-Id: <199903250453.VAA21892@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: NAKAGAWA Yoshihisa Cc: Nate Williams , Ronald van der Pol , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: is 3c589D and multicast working on 3.1-RELEASE? In-Reply-To: <199903250412.EAA23132@chandra.eatell.msr.prug.or.jp> References: <199903250004.RAA20740@mt.sri.com> <199903250412.EAA23132@chandra.eatell.msr.prug.or.jp> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > laptops, so I'd recommend going back to 2.2.8. (Note, you don't need > > PAO to do laptop support.) > > No! Some PCIC (TI CardBus bridge, ...) need PAO. This is not true. Ted Faber accedd TI CardBus bridge support to FreeBSD before it existed in PAO. Some models may not work, but many do. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Mar 24 21: 7:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E520E1509F for ; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 21:07:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA01076; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 21:00:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199903250500.VAA01076@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Sean O'Connell" Cc: Mike Smith , FreeBSD mobile Subject: Re: Force pccard controller to specific irq In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 24 Mar 1999 00:20:44 EST." <19990324002044.D2342@stat.Duke.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 21:00:14 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On 1999 Mar 23, Mike Smith (aka mike@smith.net.au) wrote: > > > > If you're using 3.1 or later, make sure you've removed the redundant > > load of the pcic module in /etc/rc.pccard. > > I was unwittingly responsible for the recent (too many due to my > typos) changes in /etc/rc.pccard > > > Also, if the correct variable is set in /boot/loader.rc, the pcic > > driver will use the specified IRQ. Make sure you haven't made a typo. > > What would be the correct call? This is 3.1-R (I will be updating to > 3.1-Stable on these guys). > > I had tried adding the following to /boot/loader.rc: > > set machdep.pccard.pcic_irq=10 > > both before and after and without a > > load /kernel > > I think I even tried using a load pcic.ko, also, but to no > avail ... it _always_ uses IRQ3. I know this is unpopular > comment, but could we allow for a kernel option to set the > pcic_irq value a la PAO folks? > > Thanks ... I will try some of the other folks suggestions > viz hardcoding it in the /sys/pccard/{pcic,pccard}.c How about just instrumenting the code in pcic.c and telling us why it's not recognising the interrupt value you've set? There's a perfectly good mechanism in place; if it's not working it needs to be fixed, not kludged around. The solution you're proposing is *exactly* what's wrong with the PAO code - you're not fixing something so that it works like it should, you're just making a mess and avoiding the problem. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Mar 24 21: 8:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rainey.blueneptune.com (rainey.blueneptune.com [209.133.45.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425071509F for ; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 21:08:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aland@SoftOrchestra.com) Received: from jester (ppp145.blueneptune.com [209.133.45.145]) by rainey.blueneptune.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA06819; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 21:07:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aland@SoftOrchestra.com) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990324205917.01f51650@blueneptune.com> X-Sender: aland@blueneptune.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 20:59:20 -0800 To: UCHIYAMA Yasushi From: Alan DuBoff Subject: Re: New design of PCMCIA/CardBus support. (work in progress) Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 01:52 AM 3/25/99 +0900, UCHIYAMA Yasushi wrote: > Sorry I don't have 3c574. so I don't know about it. But I have a patch which >NetBSD-1.3I:sys/dev/ic/elink3.c ported to FreeBSD. Do you test it? I'll test it. I am going to install -current on another partition, and if that seems to be more trouble than it's worth, I'll back down to 3.1-stable. I have 2.2.8 running fine, will your patch run on it? Alan DuBoff - Conductor Software Orchestration, Inc. aland@SoftOrchestra.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Mar 24 22:10:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from chandra.eatell.msr.prug.or.jp (dhcp418.6bone.nec.co.jp [202.247.4.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745BE14C94 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 1999 22:10:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from y-nakaga@nwsl.mesh.ad.jp) Received: from nwsl.mesh.ad.jp (localhost.eatell.msr.prug.or.jp [127.0.0.1]) by chandra.eatell.msr.prug.or.jp (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA23443; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 06:08:54 GMT Message-Id: <199903250608.GAA23443@chandra.eatell.msr.prug.or.jp> To: Nate Williams Cc: Ronald van der Pol , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: is 3c589D and multicast working on 3.1-RELEASE? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 24 Mar 1999 21:53:43 MST." <199903250453.VAA21892@mt.sri.com> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 15:08:53 +0900 From: NAKAGAWA Yoshihisa Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > This is not true. Ted Faber accedd TI CardBus bridge support to FreeBSD > before it existed in PAO. YOU ARE WRONG. Original code support TI PCI1130, PCI1131, PCI1250, Cirrus PD6832 only. And, it has initialize code for PD6832 only. NOT working with many BIOS. Further more, It mistake TI chip for VLSI PCIC. Because, i82365SL-DF step compatibel (TI chips, ...) has same ID as VLSI's. So, MANY CASE NOT WORKING. PAO *correct* supportted CardBus bridges are TI PCI1130, PCI1131, PCI1250, PCI1220, PCI1221, RICOH RL5C465, RL5C475, RL5C476, RL5C478, Toshiba ToPIC95, ToPIC98. And, Original code NOT SUPPORT multi PCIC. In Japan, some machine has multi PCIC. Example, Chandra has TI PCI1130 + RICOH RF5C296, Chandra II has RICOH RL5C476 + RL5C475. -- NAKAGAWA, Yoshihisa y-nakaga@nwsl.mesh.ad.jp nakagawa@jp.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Mar 25 1:23:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from voyage.coolfitch.ie (pooh.elsevier.nl [145.36.9.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ECB614CF2 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 01:23:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steveo@iol.ie) Received: from voyage.coolfitch.ie (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by voyage.coolfitch.ie (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA00470; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 09:18:37 GMT (envelope-from steveo@iol.ie) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199903250025.RAA20909@mt.sri.com> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 09:18:36 -0000 (GMT) From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: Nate Williams Subject: Re: is 3c589D and multicast working on 3.1-RELEASE? Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, Bob Bishop Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 25-Mar-99 Nate Williams wrote: >> >[...] >> >Unfortunately, things are apparently very broken in 3.* with regards to >> >laptops, so I'd recommend going back to 2.2.8.[etc] >> >> Just FTR, I'm seeing no problems whatsoever with 3.1-R on a ThinkPad 365XD >> and an NE2000-alike netcard. > > I know a number of people who are using 3.1R, but they had to fight to > get it working. :( Another JFTR, the only problems I've had on a practically nameless AMD300 based laptop have been my own silly fault (oh yes and the pcic kld :)). ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Steve O'Hara-Smith Date: 25-Mar-99 Time: 09:17:20 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Mar 25 8:13:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from casper.v6.imasy.or.jp (casper.v6.imasy.or.jp [202.227.24.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37CCE14D49 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 08:13:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Received: from harp.mahoroba.org (root@harp.calm.imasy.or.jp [3ffe:505:2:0:220:afff:fe34:5d54]) by casper.v6.imasy.or.jp (8.9.3+3.1W/3.7W-v6) with ESMTP/IPv6 id BAA27098; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 01:12:53 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Received: from localhost (ume@peace.mahoroba.org [::ffff:202.227.26.34]) by harp.mahoroba.org (8.9.3+3.1W/3.7W-harp) with ESMTP/IPv6 id BAA13596; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 01:10:59 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 01:10:59 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199903251610.BAA13596@harp.mahoroba.org> To: nate@mt.sri.com Cc: y-nakaga@nwsl.mesh.ad.jp, rvdp@surfnet.nl, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: ume@mahoroba.org Subject: Re: is 3c589D and multicast working on 3.1-RELEASE? In-Reply-To: <199903250453.VAA21892@mt.sri.com> References: <199903250004.RAA20740@mt.sri.com> <199903250412.EAA23132@chandra.eatell.msr.prug.or.jp> <199903250453.VAA21892@mt.sri.com> X-Mailer: xcite1.20> Mew version 1.94b12 on Emacs 20.3 / Mule 4.0 =?iso-2022-jp?B?KBskQjJWMWMbKEIp?= X-PGP-Public-Key: http://www.imasy.org/~ume/publickey.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 0C 53 FC 5D D0 37 91 05 D0 B3 EF 36 9B 6A BC X-URL: http://www.imasy.org/~ume/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Hajimu UMEMOTO (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCR19LXBsoQiA=?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCSCUbKEI=?=) X-Dispatcher: imput version 990302(IM109) Lines: 22 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>>> On Wed, 24 Mar 1999 21:53:43 -0700 >>>>> Nate Williams said: > No! Some PCIC (TI CardBus bridge, ...) need PAO. Yes, yes. nate> This is not true. Ted Faber accedd TI CardBus bridge support to FreeBSD nate> before it existed in PAO. Really? At least, 3.1-RELEASE doesn't recognize my laptop called Chandra2. It has TI CardBus bridge. First, I tried 3.1-RELASE without PAO. But, I couldn't use PCMCIA at all. So, I installed 3.1-RELEASE with PAO3. It works fine. # I did downgrade to 2.2.8-REALEASE with PAO for IPv6 related other # reason, now. -- Hajimu UMEMOTO @ Internet Mutual Aid Society Yokohama, Japan ume@mahoroba.org ume@bisd.hitachi.co.jp ume@jp.FreeBSD.org http://www.imasy.org/~ume/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Mar 25 9:38: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from ns11.rim.or.jp (ns11.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9137714CCD for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 09:38:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from motoyuki@snipe.rim.or.jp) Received: from rayearth.rim.or.jp (rayearth.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.242]) by ns11.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.5Wpl2-ns11/RIMNET-2) with ESMTP id CAA10195 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 02:37:42 +0900 (JST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by rayearth.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.5Wpl2-uucp1/RIMNET) with UUCP id CAA19542 for freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 02:37:42 +0900 (JST) Received: from asuka.snipe.rim.or.jp (asuka.snipe.rim.or.jp [192.168.11.3]) by mserver.snipe.rim.or.jp (8.9.2/3.7W) with ESMTP id CAA32374 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 02:37:28 +0900 (JST) Received: from asuka.snipe.rim.or.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by asuka.snipe.rim.or.jp (8.9.3/3.6W) with ESMTP id CAA27095 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 02:37:28 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199903251737.CAA27095@asuka.snipe.rim.or.jp> To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: mh-e on Mule 2.3 / Emacs 19.34.1 References: <199903250453.VAA21892@mt.sri.com> Subject: Re: is 3c589D and multicast working on 3.1-RELEASE? Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 02:37:28 +0900 From: Motoyuki Konno Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nate wrote in the message <199903250453.VAA21892@mt.sri.com>: > > No! Some PCIC (TI CardBus bridge, ...) need PAO. > > This is not true. Ted Faber accedd TI CardBus bridge support to FreeBSD > before it existed in PAO. > > Some models may not work, but many do. I have a notebook commonly called "Chandra II" (*1), which has TI CardBus bridge. I tried "plain" 3.1-stable, but I could not use PC-cards with plain 3.1-stable. Next, I tried 3.1-RELEASE with PAO3, then I can use PC-cards very well. Since "Chandra II" is very very popular notebook in Japan, and I have heard that many notebooks DO NOT work with "plain" FreeBSD, your idea > Some models may not work, but many do. is WRONG. correct is: o Many models does not work with "plain" FreeBSD. o WE SHOULD INTEGRATE PAO INTO FREEBSD DISTRIBUTION. *1: Chandra II Many hardware manufactures (IBM, Hitachi, etc.) sell this model in Japan. --- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Motoyuki Konno mkonno@res.yamanashi-med.ac.jp (Univ) motoyuki@snipe.rim.or.jp (Home) motoyuki@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Project) Yamanashi Medical University http://www.freebsd.org/~motoyuki/ (WWW) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Mar 25 10:54:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from f77.nop.or.jp (f77.nop.or.jp [210.145.217.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C78161503A for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 10:54:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from uch@nop.or.jp) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by f77.nop.or.jp (8.9.1a/3.7W) with ESMTP id DAA23411; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 03:54:19 +0900 (JST) To: aland@SoftOrchestra.com Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New design of PCMCIA/CardBus support. (work in progress) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 24 Mar 1999 20:59:20 -0800" <3.0.32.19990324205917.01f51650@blueneptune.com> References: <3.0.32.19990324205917.01f51650@blueneptune.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.92 on Emacs 20.2 / Mule 3.0 (MOMIJINOGA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990326035418O.uch@nop.or.jp> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 03:54:18 +0900 From: UCHIYAMA Yasushi X-Dispatcher: imput version 971024 Lines: 232 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org | I'll test it. I am going to install -current on another partition, and if | that seems to be more trouble than it's worth, I'll back down to 3.1-stable. | | I have 2.2.8 running fine, will your patch run on it? I'm working on 3.1-RELEASE based FreeBSD/newconfig. It doesn't run on 2.2.8. To test NetBSD elink driver, you need 3 patches. http://www.jp.freebsd.org/~furuta/nc-snapshot/snap_31_19990315.diff ftp://ftp.nop.or.jp/users/uch/PCMCIA/FreeBSD/sys990315-pcmcia990325.patch.gz ftp://ftp.nop.or.jp/users/uch/PCMCIA/FreeBSD/sys990315-pcmcia990325-elinknetbsd.patch.gz 1) extract 3.1-RELEASE source tree at anywhere. (sys31R.tar.gz is my tarball name) # tar zxvf sys31R.tar.gz [...] 2) apply patch # patch -p1 -E < snap_31_19990315.diff [...] # gzip -d < sys990315-pcmcia990325.patch.gz | patch -p0 -E [...] # gzip -d < sys990315-pcmcia990325-elinknetbsd.patch.gz | patch -p0 -E [...] 3) compile `config' (newconfig version of config(8)) # cd usr.sbin/config.new # make -f Makefile.boot [...] 4) compile kernel # cd ../../sys/i386/conf # ../../../usr.sbin/config.new/config ELINK_NETBSD # cd ../../compile/ELINK_NETBSD # make depend && make [...] And see also http://www.jp.freebsd.org/newconfig/ . I've tested 3c509(ep at isa), 3c509(ep at isapnp), 3c589D(ep at pcmcia), 3c575TX(ep at cardbus). Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE #0: Fri Mar 26 03:37:36 JST 1999 uch@r3000.rfe.nop.or.jp:/usr/src/990325/sys/compile/ELINK_NETBSD Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium II/Xeon/Celeron (267.27-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x652 Stepping=2 Features=0x183fbff> real memory = 469762048 (458752K bytes) avail memory = 454942720 (444280K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xf0259000. mainbus0 (root) pci0 at mainbus0 Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 func 0bridge0 primary=0 secondary=1 subordinate=1 bridge1 primary=0 secondary=2 subordinate=2 bridge2 primary=0 secondary=3 subordinate=3 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 func 0pci1 at ppb0 Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: pcib0 at pci0 dev 4 func 0: Intel 82371AB PCI to ISA bridge pirq_to_irq = 10 10 10 10 default irq routingtable=80808080 PIRQ0# (disable)-> 10 PIRQ1# (disable)-> 10 PIRQ2# (disable)-> 10 PIRQ3# (disable)-> 10 INT 00 Must be Edge trigger-> Don't change INT 01 Must be Edge trigger-> Don't change INT 02 Must be Edge trigger-> Don't change INT 03 Edge -> Don't change INT 04 Edge -> Don't change INT 05 Edge -> Don't change INT 06 Edge -> Don't change INT 07 Edge -> Don't change INT 08 Must be Edge trigger-> Don't change INT 09 Edge -> Don't change INT 10 Edge -> Level INT 11 Edge -> Don't change INT 12 Edge -> Don't change INT 13 Must be Edge trigger-> Don't change INT 14 Edge -> Don't change INT 15 Edge -> Don't change set_intline: dev=4,func=2,pin=4,line=10 set_intline: dev=11,func=0,pin=1,line=10 set_intline: dev=12,func=0,pin=1,line=10 set_intline: dev=12,func=1,pin=2,line=10 vendor 0x8086 id 0x7111 at pci0 dev 4 func 1: not configured vendor 0x8086 id 0x7112 at pci0 dev 4 func 2: not configured chipset0 at pci0 dev 4 func 3: Intel 82371AB Power management controller vga1 at pci0 dev 11 func 0: S3 ViRGE DX/GX graphics accelerator cbb0 at pci0 dev 12 func 0 (RF5C47X) cbb0: CardBus resister address 0x0 -> 0x68000000 intrpin A, intrtag 10 intr_establish:irq=10 trigger=level ipl=bio cbb0: interrupting at irq 10 PCI config regs: 0x00: 04781180 02100007 06070003 00822000 0x10: 68000000 020000dc 20020200 fffff000 0x20: 00000000 fffff000 00000000 fffffffc 0x30: 00000000 fffffffc 00000000 0700010a 0x40: 00000000 00000001 00000000 00000000 0x80: 00000000 00000300 04630463 00000000 0x90: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 0xa0: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 socket regs: 00000000 00000006 30000450 00000000 00000000 ExCA regs: 83 3f 00 00 00 00 00 00 cardbus0 at cbb0 bus 2 device 0 pci113xattach: found cardbus pcmcia0 at cbb0 slot 0 cbb0: a 16-bit pcmcia card found. pccbb_pcmcia_socket_enable: 5V card pccbb_power: CARDBUS_VCC_0V and CARDBUS_VPP_0V [44] pccbb_power: CARDBUS_VCC_5V and CARDBUS_VPP_VCC [15] pccbb_pcmcia_wait_ready: status 0x5f cbb0: pccbb_pcmcia_socket_enable 00 cardtype mem 50 pccbb_pcmcia_alloc_mem: addr 0x68001000 size 0x400, realsize 0x1000 pccbb_pcmcia_mem_map window 0 bus 68001000+0+400 at card addr 0 pccbb_pcmcia_do_mem_map: start 0x68001000 end 0x680013ff off 0x97fff000 pccbb_pcmcia_do_mem_map window 0: 0180 0180 ff7f 68 pccbb_pcmcia_socket_disable pccbb_power: CARDBUS_VCC_0V and CARDBUS_VPP_0V [44] pcmcia0: CIS version PCMCIA 2.0 or 2.1 pcmcia0: CIS info: 3Com Corporation, 3C589D, TP/BNC LAN Card Ver. 2a, 000002 pcmcia0: Manufacturer code 0x101, product 0x589 pcmcia0: function 0: network adapter, ccr addr 10000 mask 3 pcmcia0: function 0, config table entry 1: I/O card; irq mask ffff; iomask 4, iospace 0-f; rdybsy_active wp_active bvd_active io8 io16 irqlevel pcmcia0: function 0, config table entry 3: I/O card; irq mask ffff; iomask 4, iospace 0-f; rdybsy_active wp_active bvd_active io8 io16 irqlevel ep0 at pcmcia0 function 0pccbb_pcmcia_socket_enable: 5V card pccbb_power: CARDBUS_VCC_0V and CARDBUS_VPP_0V [44] pccbb_power: CARDBUS_VCC_5V and CARDBUS_VPP_VCC [15] pccbb_pcmcia_wait_ready: status 0x5f cbb0: pccbb_pcmcia_socket_enable 00 cardtype io 70 pccbb_pcmcia_alloc_mem: addr 0x68001000 size 0x14, realsize 0x1000 pccbb_pcmcia_mem_map window 0 bus 68001000+0+14 at card addr 10000 pccbb_pcmcia_do_mem_map: start 0x68001000 end 0x68001013 off 0x9800f000 pccbb_pcmcia_do_mem_map window 0: 0180 0180 0f40 68 pccbb_pcmmcia_io_alloc alloc port 0x700+0x10 pccbb_pcmcia_io_map window 0 io16 port 700+10 pccbb_pcmcia_do_io_map win 0 addr 0x700 size 0x10 width 16 start 00 07, stop 0f 07, ioctl 01 enable 61 : 3Com 3c589 10Mbps Ethernet ep0: address 00:60:97:8d:d8:e9, 8KB byte-wide FIFO, 5:3 Rx:Tx split ep0: 10baseT, 10base5, 10base2 (default 10baseT) pccbb_pcmcia_socket_disable pccbb_power: CARDBUS_VCC_0V and CARDBUS_VPP_0V [44] cbb1 at pci0 dev 12 func 1 (RF5C47X) cbb1: CardBus resister address 0x0 -> 0x68010000 intrpin B, intrtag 10 intr_establish:irq=10 trigger=level ipl=bio cbb1: interrupting at irq 10 PCI config regs: 0x00: 04781180 02100007 06070003 00822000 0x10: 68010000 220000dc 20030300 fffff000 0x20: 00000000 fffff000 00000000 fffffffc 0x30: 00000000 fffffffc 00000000 0700020a 0x40: 00000000 00000001 00000000 00000000 0x80: 00000000 00000300 04630463 00000000 0x90: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 0xa0: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 socket regs: 00000000 00000006 30000860 00000000 00000000 ExCA regs: 83 3f 00 00 00 00 00 00 cardbus1 at cbb1 bus 3 device 1 cardbusattach: CardBus card found [0x2] cardbus_attach_card: cb1 start pccbb_power: CARDBUS_VCC_3V and CARDBUS_VPP_UC [1] cardbus_attach_card: Vendor 0x10b7, Product 0x5057, CIS 0x90 tuple: LINKTARGET len 5 0x 0: 13 3 43 49 53 tuple: MANFID len 6 0x 0: 20 4 1 1 57 50 tuple: CONFIG_CB len 8 0x 0: 4 6 3 1 0 0 0 0 tuple: CFTABLE_ENTRY_CB len 14 0x 0: 5 c 41 9a 1 b5 1e 1 55 2 30 ff ff 1 tuple: BAR len 8 0x 0: 7 6 11 0 40 0 0 0 tuple: VERS_1 len 59 0x 0: 15 39 5 0 33 43 6f 6d 20 43 6f 72 70 6f 72 61 0x10: 74 69 6f 6e 0 33 43 35 37 35 41 0 46 61 73 74 0x20: 20 45 74 68 65 72 4c 69 6e 6b 20 58 4c 20 50 43 0x30: 20 43 61 72 64 0 30 30 31 0 ff tuple: FUNCID len 4 0x 0: 21 2 6 1 tuple: END len 66 ep1 at cardbus1 dev 0 function 0pccbb_io_open: 0x8300[0x2c] - 0x8340[0x30] pccbb_cardenable: command reg 0x2100007 3Com 3C575 (ep compatible mode)ep1: address 60:00:b6:08:5f:f7, 8KB word-wide FIFO, 3:5 Rx:Tx split ep1: manual (default manual) - pccard_intr_establish: irq 10 intr_establish:irq=10 trigger=level ipl=net ep1: interrupting at (null) pci113xattach: found cardbus pcmcia1 at cbb1 slot 1 isa0 at pcib0 isapnp0 at isa0 port 0x279: ISA Plug 'n Play device support sc0 at isa0 sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> sio0 at isa0 port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 intr_establish:irq=4 trigger=level ipl=bio sio0: type 16550A sio1 at isa0 port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 intr_establish:irq=3 trigger=level ipl=bio sio1: type 16550A 3COM 3C509 Ethernet card in PnP mode ep2 at isa0 port 0x300-0x30f irq 5: 3Com 3C509 Ethernet ep2: address 00:60:97:96:07:e0, 8KB byte-wide FIFO, 1:1 Rx:Tx split ep2: 10baseT, 10base5 (default 10baseT) intr_establish:irq=5 trigger=edge ipl=net vga0 at isa0 npx0 at isa0 irq 13: INT 16 interface apm0 at isa0: found APM BIOS version 1.2 atkbdc0 at isa0 atkbd0 at isa0 irq 1 lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 intr_establish:irq=7 trigger=level ipl=bio : Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface psm0 at isa0 irq 12 intr_establish:irq=12 trigger=level ipl=bio : model IntelliMouse, device ID 3 fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 intr_establish:irq=6 trigger=edge ipl=bio : FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0 at fdc0 drive 0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at isa0 irq 14 wd0 at wdc0 unit 0: 2445MB (5008752 sectors), 4969 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S isapnp0: read port 0x203 ep3 at isapnp0 port 0x210/16 irq 9 ep3: 3Com 3C509B EtherLink III intr_establish:irq=9 trigger=edge ipl=net ep3: address 00:60:97:96:0b:c8, 8KB byte-wide FIFO, 1:1 Rx:Tx split ep3: 10baseT, 10base5 (default 10baseT) changing root device to wd0s1a --- UCHIYAMA Yasushi uch@nop.or.jp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Mar 25 15:30:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from baynet.baynetworks.com (ns1.BayNetworks.COM [134.177.3.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7006150AA for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 15:30:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bwithrow@engeast.BayNetworks.COM) Received: from mailhost.BayNetworks.COM (h8754.s84f5.BayNetworks.COM [132.245.135.84]) by baynet.baynetworks.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA17449 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 15:29:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from pobox.engeast.BayNetworks.COM (pobox.engeast.baynetworks.com [192.32.61.6]) by mailhost.BayNetworks.COM (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA28367 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 18:27:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from tuva.engeast.baynetworks.com (tuva [192.32.68.38]) by pobox.engeast.BayNetworks.COM (SMI-8.6/BNET-97/04/24-S) with ESMTP id SAA25053; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 18:29:45 -0500 for Received: from tuva.engeast.baynetworks.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tuva.engeast.baynetworks.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA25764 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 18:29:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bwithrow@tuva.engeast.baynetworks.com) Message-Id: <199903252329.SAA25764@tuva.engeast.baynetworks.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Closing laptop lid confuses X Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 18:29:41 -0500 From: Robert Withrow Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On my Gateway Solo 9100 (with a trident chipset), running PAO 2.2.8, when I close the lid and re-open it, the X11 display (XF86 3.3.3) has disappeared. I've tried: - Switching VTs - Building the kernel with the SYSCONS_VTY_RESUME option - Killing and re-starting XDM Only the last option fixes the screen. If I am at the X11 vty, switching to standby mode doesn't cause screen problems but suspending does. If I'm at a normal vty, I can do either and X11 is fine when I switch back to the X11 vty. Anyone know of a fix? If not, should I go to the XFree people? Is there an XFree-mobile list? -- Robert Withrow -- (+1 978 916 8256) BWithrow@BayNetworks.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Mar 25 19:11: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from chandra.eatell.msr.prug.or.jp (dhcp418.6bone.nec.co.jp [202.247.4.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765B315031 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 19:11:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from y-nakaga@nwsl.mesh.ad.jp) Received: from nwsl.mesh.ad.jp (localhost.eatell.msr.prug.or.jp [127.0.0.1]) by chandra.eatell.msr.prug.or.jp (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA24153; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 02:26:50 GMT Message-Id: <199903260226.CAA24153@chandra.eatell.msr.prug.or.jp> To: Motoyuki Konno Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: is 3c589D and multicast working on 3.1-RELEASE? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 26 Mar 1999 02:37:28 JST." <199903251737.CAA27095@asuka.snipe.rim.or.jp> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 11:26:50 +0900 From: NAKAGAWA Yoshihisa Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I have a notebook commonly called "Chandra II" (*1), which has TI > CardBus bridge. Konno-san and Umemoto-san, Chandra-II has RICOH RL5C476 + RL5C475, Chandra-I has TI PCI1130 + RICOH RF5C296. Original code has serious problem with TI chips. Both version Chandra have Multi-PCIC problem, but TI chip problem is Chandra-I and other TI chip using machine only. > I tried "plain" 3.1-stable, but I could not use PC-cards with plain > 3.1-stable. Next, I tried 3.1-RELEASE with PAO3, then I can use > PC-cards very well. It is *TRUE*. So, WE NEED PAO. Chandra-I, original code is recognized 1-slot only which controlled by RICOH RF5C296, and not recognized 2-slots which controlled by TI PCI1130. # Chandra seriese has 3 PC-Card slots. And, original code probe 0x3e0 and 0x3e2 only and hard coding. It is very bad. For example, Chandra-I using 0x3e2 and 0x3e4 for default. -- NAKAGAWA, Yoshihisa y-nakaga@nwsl.mesh.ad.jp nakagawa@jp.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Mar 26 0:33:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from voyage.coolfitch.ie (pooh.elsevier.nl [145.36.9.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B01F8151B0 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 00:33:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steveo@iol.ie) Received: from voyage.coolfitch.ie (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by voyage.coolfitch.ie (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA17441; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 08:29:08 GMT (envelope-from steveo@iol.ie) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199903240021.IAA58195@netrinsics.com> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 08:29:07 -0000 (GMT) From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: Michael Robinson Subject: Re: Force pccard controller to specific irq Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, sean@stat.Duke.EDU Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 24-Mar-99 Michael Robinson wrote: > > set machdep.pccard.pcic.irq=10 As was pointed out to me earlier (thanks Brian) that should be set machdep.pccard.pcic_irq=10 I hope you didn't copy my mistake :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Mar 26 0:36:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from voyage.coolfitch.ie (pooh.elsevier.nl [145.36.9.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBEB614A14 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 00:36:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steveo@iol.ie) Received: from voyage.coolfitch.ie (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by voyage.coolfitch.ie (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA17450; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 08:32:00 GMT (envelope-from steveo@iol.ie) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199903252329.SAA25764@tuva.engeast.baynetworks.com> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 08:32:00 -0000 (GMT) From: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" To: Robert Withrow Subject: RE: Closing laptop lid confuses X Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 25-Mar-99 Robert Withrow wrote: > On my Gateway Solo 9100 (with a trident chipset), running PAO 2.2.8, > when I close the lid and re-open it, the X11 display (XF86 3.3.3) > has disappeared. I've tried: > > - Switching VTs > - Building the kernel with the SYSCONS_VTY_RESUME option > - Killing and re-starting XDM Ok now try bouncing on the 'switch to monitor' button (once or twice) and see if that helps. ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Steve O'Hara-Smith Date: 26-Mar-99 Time: 08:30:44 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Mar 26 7:59:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from krusty.imgmkt.com (zarvon.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.66.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4628E15543; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 07:59:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@playgal.com) Received: from bart.zarvon.com (bart.imgmkt.com [192.168.60.3] (may be forged)) by krusty.imgmkt.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id BAA14011; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 01:59:25 +1000 (EST) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 01:59:58 +1000 (EST) From: Steven Harris X-Sender: steve@bart.zarvon.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Help needed with PCMCIA 3CCFEM556B card Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I have recently purchased a toshiba taptop and a 3COM Megahertz 3CCFEM556B modem/network card and am having no luck getting it working. I was wondering if anyone has had any luck with this setup? With the PCCARD configuration, I can get to the stage where it will detect sio2, but when i try to 'cu -l /dev/cuaa2' it hangs the PC. It says it finds the controller on int 3 and 5, but from what I have researched this may not necessarily be true. When it starts up it says: PC-Card Intel 82365 (5 mem & 2 I/O windows) pcic: controller irq 3 Initializing PC-card drivers: sio Card inserted, slot 0 PC-Card Intel 82365 (5 mem & 2 I/O windows) pcic: controller irq 5 Card inserted: slot 2 Any help would be GREATLY appreciated! Thanks, Steve Harris FreeBSDRocks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Mar 26 12:14:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F06214A23; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 12:14:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00944; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 12:07:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199903262007.MAA00944@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Steven Harris Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help needed with PCMCIA 3CCFEM556B card In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 27 Mar 1999 01:59:58 +1000." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 12:07:43 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > PC-Card Intel 82365 (5 mem & 2 I/O windows) > pcic: controller irq 3 > Initializing PC-card drivers: sio > Card inserted, slot 0 > PC-Card Intel 82365 (5 mem & 2 I/O windows) > pcic: controller irq 5 > Card inserted: slot 2 You seem to still have the pcic kld being loaded by /etc/rc.pccard - remove that and try again. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Mar 26 13:18:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from Bespin.worldnet.net (bespin.worldnet.net [195.3.3.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB4214F00 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 13:18:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pcasidy@worldnet.fr) Received: from greatoak.home (p15-209.province.worldnet.fr [195.3.15.209]) by Bespin.worldnet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA24255 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 22:16:03 +0100 (CET) Received: (from pcasidy@localhost) by greatoak.home (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA04214 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Thu, 25 Mar 1999 17:36:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from pcasidy) Message-Id: <199903251636.RAA04214@greatoak.home> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 17:36:50 +0100 (CET) From: Philippe CASIDY Subject: Which LAN PCCARD for FreeBSD (no PAO!) To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello! I need urgently a working ethernet PCCARD while waiting for someone or I make the 3COM 3CCFEM556BI works! I would like to know which card works under FreeBSD 3.1R and FreeBSD 2.2.8R WITHOUT PAO! Thanks! Phil. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Mar 26 13:34:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (freebsd.dk [212.242.42.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7EF314F00 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 13:34:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA50109; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 22:33:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sos) From: Soren Schmidt Message-Id: <199903262133.WAA50109@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: Which LAN PCCARD for FreeBSD (no PAO!) In-Reply-To: <199903251636.RAA04214@greatoak.home> from Philippe CASIDY at "Mar 25, 1999 5:36:50 pm" To: pcasidy@worldnet.fr (Philippe CASIDY) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 22:33:32 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It seems Philippe CASIDY wrote: > Hello! > > I need urgently a working ethernet PCCARD while waiting for someone or > I make the 3COM 3CCFEM556BI works! > > I would like to know which card works under FreeBSD 3.1R and FreeBSD > 2.2.8R WITHOUT PAO! I use a 3COM 3CXE589DT, works like a charm with the ep driver... -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Mar 26 14:53:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from krusty.imgmkt.com (zarvon.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.66.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A51914C58; Fri, 26 Mar 1999 14:53:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@playgal.com) Received: from bart.zarvon.com (bart.imgmkt.com [192.168.60.3] (may be forged)) by krusty.imgmkt.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id IAA06015; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 08:53:11 +1000 (EST) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 08:53:46 +1000 (EST) From: Steven Harris X-Sender: steve@bart.zarvon.com To: Mike Smith Cc: Steven Harris , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help needed with PCMCIA 3CCFEM556B card In-Reply-To: <199903262007.MAA00944@dingo.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Thanks - I removed a few lines in /etc/rc.pccard and the driver only loads once now. However, I am still having a few problems. This is the relevant section of my /etc/pccard.comf: card "3Com" "Megahertz 3CCFEM556BI" config 0x1 "sio2" 10 insert echo .... remove echo .... 1. When pccardd is run, it initialises and says "sio2: type 8250" but if I do a "cu -l /dev/cuaa2" it hangs my system completely. 2. When it initialises the PC-Card drivers (see below) there is no mention at all of the network driver. Do I need to compile on the zp0 driver into the kernel and add the CONFIGURATION_LINT option so as to allow it ? 3. Should i be using IRQ 3 for the sio port - should I set it to sio1 instead of sio2, since sio1 doesnt exist on this system either? Thanks for all of your help - I appreciate it greatly. I will write a guide and put it up on FreeBSDRocks once everything is working, so that It may help other people in the same situation! Steve On Fri, 26 Mar 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > PC-Card Intel 82365 (5 mem & 2 I/O windows) > > pcic: controller irq 3 > > Initializing PC-card drivers: sio > > Card inserted, slot 0 > > You seem to still have the pcic kld being loaded by /etc/rc.pccard - > remove that and try again. > > -- > \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith > \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au > \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org > \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Mar 27 9: 1:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from chandra.eatell.msr.prug.or.jp (ykh28DS31.kng.mesh.ad.jp [133.205.214.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0697F154B6 for ; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 09:01:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from y-nakaga@nwsl.mesh.ad.jp) Received: from nwsl.mesh.ad.jp (localhost.eatell.msr.prug.or.jp [127.0.0.1]) by chandra.eatell.msr.prug.or.jp (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA28337; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 02:55:00 GMT Message-Id: <199903270255.CAA28337@chandra.eatell.msr.prug.or.jp> To: Philippe CASIDY Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which LAN PCCARD for FreeBSD (no PAO!) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 25 Mar 1999 17:36:50 +0100." <199903251636.RAA04214@greatoak.home> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 11:55:00 +0900 From: NAKAGAWA Yoshihisa Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I would like to know which card works under FreeBSD 3.1R and FreeBSD > 2.2.8R WITHOUT PAO! Why? "plain FreeBSD"'s APM and PC-Card support is limitted and buggy. You should be use PAO. By the way, I think 3COM 3CCFEM556BI is multi function card. PAO and plain FreeBSD can't correct handle multi function card. NetBSD's PC-Crad support code, it can use 3Com 3CXEM556 for ethernet card. "newconfig" PC-Crad support is based on NetBSD's PC-Card support, so probably it works. -- NAKAGAWA, Yoshihisa y-nakaga@nwsl.mesh.ad.jp nakagawa@jp.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Mar 27 9:39: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from pn.wagsky.com (wagsky.vip.best.com [206.86.71.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 236C014EFA for ; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 09:39:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@wagsky.com) Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by pn.wagsky.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA13413; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 09:38:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@wagsky.com) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 09:38:35 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Kletsky To: Philippe CASIDY Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which LAN PCCARD for FreeBSD (no PAO!) In-Reply-To: <199903270255.CAA28337@chandra.eatell.msr.prug.or.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 27 Mar 1999, NAKAGAWA Yoshihisa wrote: > > I would like to know which card works under FreeBSD 3.1R and FreeBSD > > 2.2.8R WITHOUT PAO! > > Why? "plain FreeBSD"'s APM and PC-Card support is limitted and > buggy. You should be use PAO. Hmmm... 3.1R was requested -- no PAO. And part of me seems to believe that if PAO were all that much more stable *and* functional than pccard, it would have been accepted onto the main branch. Be that as it may... On a HP OmniBook 4100 under 3.1-STABLE (3.1-RELEASE has some "issues" which are resloved in -STABLE) I have running with the noted mods: apm -- flags 0x0 to obtain v1.2 support 3COM 3CC156B -- proper pccard.conf entry Linksys 10/100 Ethernet -- Satoshi Asami's if_ed.c patches -- a FreeBSD development team member, FWIW I used to have a URL for the "latest" version of the patches, but they can be found by searching the FreeBSD-Mobile archives: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/search.cgi?words=asami+AND+if_ed&max=25&sort=date&source=freebsd-mobile The only issue I have is that sleeping the machine seems to disable detection of card insertion after awakening. So I just don't unplug cards after sleeping. (Hey, that's in NT too, it must be a "feature!") Hope this helps, Jeff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Mar 27 11: 1:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mail4.svr.pol.co.uk (mail4.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F8C215089 for ; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 11:01:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rsm@acm.org) Received: from [195.92.197.25] (helo=mail17.svr.pol.co.uk) by mail4.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10QyKe-00027H-00 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 19:01:20 +0000 Received: from modem-87.baseballer.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.154.215] helo=valis.goatsucker.org) by mail17.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10QyKF-0002iz-00 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 19:00:56 +0000 Received: (from scott@localhost) by valis.goatsucker.org (8.8.8/8.8.7) id RAA00304; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 17:30:08 GMT (envelope-from scott) Message-ID: <19990327173008.47412@goatsucker.org> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 17:30:08 +0000 From: Scott Mitchell To: Steven Harris Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help needed with PCMCIA 3CCFEM556B card References: <199903262007.MAA00944@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: ; from Steven Harris on Sat, Mar 27, 1999 at 08:53:46AM +1000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Mar 27, 1999 at 08:53:46AM +1000, Steven Harris wrote: > 2. When it initialises the PC-Card drivers (see below) there is no mention at > all of the network driver. Do I need to compile on the zp0 driver into the > kernel and add the CONFIGURATION_LINT option so as to allow it ? I'm afraid I can't help with the rest, but I do know that you can't mix generic PCCARD support (ie. pccardd) with the 'dedicated' drivers such as ze and zp. I'm pretty sure one of the generic drivers -- maybe ep? -- will work with your card. However (there's always a however), you can't currently use both parts of a multifunction card simultaneously; that is, you'll have to eject the card, shut down pccardd, edit pccard.conf, reinsert the card and restart pccardd (or maybe reboot...) to switch between the modem and Ethernet. Sucks, I know, but trust me, people are working towards a fix for this. Scott -- =========================================================================== Scott Mitchell | PGP Key ID |"If I can't have my coffee, I'm just | 0x54B171B9 | like a dried up piece of roast goat" QMW College, London, UK | 0xAA775B8B | -- J. S. Bach. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Mar 27 12: 4:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from main.avias.com (avias-gw.corbina.net [195.14.40.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D63214CA4 for ; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 12:04:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from j@avias.com) Received: from dialup1.avias.com (dialup1.avias.com [195.14.38.68]) by main.avias.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id XAA04830 for ; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 23:04:18 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from j@avias.com) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 23:05:57 +0300 From: Juriy Goloveshkin X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.22) S/N D508402B Reply-To: Juriy Goloveshkin X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <10962.990327@avias.com> To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[2]: Which LAN PCCARD for FreeBSD (no PAO!) References: <199903270255.CAA28337@chandra.eatell.msr.prug.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, >> I would like to know which card works under FreeBSD 3.1R and FreeBSD >> 2.2.8R WITHOUT PAO! NY> Why? "plain FreeBSD"'s APM and PC-Card support is limitted and NY> buggy. You should be use PAO. firstly, I think that "plain FreeBSD" supports PCCARD rather fine (I use lan, modem and floppy cards). and if PAO is better, why it isn`t in "plain FreeBSD"? Bye, Juriy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Mar 27 13: 6:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45F314C1C for ; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 13:06:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA12113; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 14:06:21 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA05479; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 14:06:21 -0700 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 14:06:21 -0700 Message-Id: <199903272106.OAA05479@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: NAKAGAWA Yoshihisa Cc: Philippe CASIDY , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which LAN PCCARD for FreeBSD (no PAO!) In-Reply-To: <199903270255.CAA28337@chandra.eatell.msr.prug.or.jp> References: <199903251636.RAA04214@greatoak.home> <199903270255.CAA28337@chandra.eatell.msr.prug.or.jp> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I would like to know which card works under FreeBSD 3.1R and FreeBSD > > 2.2.8R WITHOUT PAO! > > Why? "plain FreeBSD"'s APM and PC-Card support is limitted and > buggy. You should be use PAO. No no no. You got it all wrong. PAO support is buggy, FreeBSD APM is good, and PCCARD support is limited. :) :) :) Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Mar 27 16: 3:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mail2s.biglobe.ne.jp (mail2s.biglobe.ne.jp [210.147.14.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B40156F6 for ; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 16:03:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from thasegawa@mta.biglobe.ne.jp) Received: from mail-gw.biglobe.ne.jp (mailsv15.biglobe.ne.jp [210.147.14.248]) by mail2s.biglobe.ne.jp (8.9.1+3.1W/3.7W-99031710) with ESMTP id JAA13027; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 09:03:15 +0900 (JST) Received: from mail-relay.biglobe.ne.jp by mail-gw.biglobe.ne.jp (8.8.8/3.6W-INET_GW) id JAA18896; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 09:03:14 +0900 (JST) Received: from mta.biglobe.ne.jp by mail-relay.biglobe.ne.jp (8.8.8/3.6W-BIGLOBE_RELAY) id JAA17397; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 09:03:14 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <990328090313.89B79123.2381502@mta.biglobe.ne.jp> X-Biglobe-Sender: thasegawa@mta.biglobe.ne.jp X-Biglobe-Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 09:03:13 +0900 To: nate@mt.sri.com Cc: y-nakaga@nwsl.mesh.ad.jp, pcasidy@worldnet.fr, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which LAN PCCARD for FreeBSD (no PAO!) In-Reply-To: <199903272106.OAA05479@mt.sri.com> References: <199903251636.RAA04214@greatoak.home> <199903270255.CAA28337@chandra.eatell.msr.prug.or.jp> <199903272106.OAA05479@mt.sri.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94b13 on Emacs 20.3 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 08:36:50 +0900 From: HASEGAWA Tomoki X-Dispatcher: imput version 990310(IM110) Lines: 20 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: Nate Williams Subject: Re: Which LAN PCCARD for FreeBSD (no PAO!) Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 14:06:21 -0700 Message-ID: <199903272106.OAA05479@mt.sri.com> nate> > > I would like to know which card works under FreeBSD 3.1R and FreeBSD nate> > > 2.2.8R WITHOUT PAO! nate> > nate> > Why? "plain FreeBSD"'s APM and PC-Card support is limitted and nate> > buggy. You should be use PAO. nate> nate> No no no. You got it all wrong. PAO support is buggy, FreeBSD APM is nate> good, and PCCARD support is limited. :) :) :) BUG report please :) Either native and PAO'ed FreeBSD's PCCARD support are buggy(or limited), but PAO has advances(eg. PAO can use ATA PC-CARDs, more PCIC suport, ...). So merging all PAO to native FreeBSD and developping on it is better, I think. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Mar 27 19:52:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from ns11.rim.or.jp (ns11.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37DBB152A0 for ; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 19:52:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from motoyuki@snipe.rim.or.jp) Received: from rayearth.rim.or.jp (rayearth.rim.or.jp [202.247.130.242]) by ns11.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.5Wpl2-ns11/RIMNET-2) with ESMTP id MAA29346; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 12:51:37 +0900 (JST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by rayearth.rim.or.jp (8.8.8/3.5Wpl2-uucp1/RIMNET) with UUCP id MAA27933; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 12:51:36 +0900 (JST) Received: from rei.snipe.rim.or.jp (localhost.snipe.rim.or.jp [127.0.0.1]) by rei.snipe.rim.or.jp (8.9.2/3.7W) with ESMTP id MAA01166; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 12:28:16 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199903280328.MAA01166@rei.snipe.rim.or.jp> To: Nate Williams Cc: NAKAGAWA Yoshihisa , Philippe CASIDY , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG From: Motoyuki Konno Subject: Re: Which LAN PCCARD for FreeBSD (no PAO!) X-Mailer: mh-e on Mule 2.3 / Emacs 19.34.1 References: <199903251636.RAA04214@greatoak.home> <199903270255.CAA28337@chandra.eatell.msr.prug.or.jp> <199903272106.OAA05479@mt.sri.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 12:28:15 +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nate Williams wrote: > > > I would like to know which card works under FreeBSD 3.1R and FreeBSD > > > 2.2.8R WITHOUT PAO! > > > > Why? "plain FreeBSD"'s APM and PC-Card support is limitted and > > buggy. You should be use PAO. > > No no no. You got it all wrong. PAO support is buggy, FreeBSD APM is > good, and PCCARD support is limited. :) :) :) Why do you think "PAO support is buggy"? Do you read the recent PAO patch? If you found bugs in PAO, please list up them. I can not understand why you dislike PAO so much. o PC-card support of "plain FreeBSD" is limitted. o There are many notebooks which cannot work with "plain" FreeBSD, but works fine with PAO. o There ALREADY exists PAO. So, I think "integrate PAO into FreeBSD -> fix PAO bugs if exist" is EASIER AND FASTER than "ignore PAO and develop FreeBSD." Any comments? --- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Motoyuki Konno mkonno@res.yamanashi-med.ac.jp (Univ) motoyuki@snipe.rim.or.jp (Home) motoyuki@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Project) Yamanashi Medical University http://www.freebsd.org/~motoyuki/ (WWW) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Mar 27 20: 0:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mail.netacc.net (mail.netacc.net [206.28.142.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0887E14FB1 for ; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 20:00:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kenney@netacc.net) Received: (qmail 19206 invoked from network); 27 Mar 1999 23:00:02 -0500 Received: from net3.netacc.net (kenney@206.28.142.3) by mail.netacc.net with SMTP; 27 Mar 1999 23:00:02 -0500 Received: from localhost (kenney@localhost) by net3.netacc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA15335 for ; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 22:57:32 GMT (envelope-from kenney@netacc.net) X-Authentication-Warning: net3.netacc.net: kenney owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 22:57:32 +0000 (GMT) From: Jeffrey Kenney Reply-To: kenney@netacc.net To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Pao in 3.1 Stable. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is there a version of PAO for 3.1, my computer works beutifully with 2.2.8 (it is a toshiba 3015ct) but that is with PAO. Thanks. Kenney To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Mar 27 20:30:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (sri-gw.MT.net [206.127.105.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0360B153C9; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 20:30:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA14904; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 21:30:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA06189; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 21:30:09 -0700 Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 21:30:09 -0700 Message-Id: <199903280430.VAA06189@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Motoyuki Konno Cc: Nate Williams , NAKAGAWA Yoshihisa , Philippe CASIDY , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which LAN PCCARD for FreeBSD (no PAO!) In-Reply-To: <199903280328.MAA01166@rei.snipe.rim.or.jp> References: <199903251636.RAA04214@greatoak.home> <199903270255.CAA28337@chandra.eatell.msr.prug.or.jp> <199903272106.OAA05479@mt.sri.com> <199903280328.MAA01166@rei.snipe.rim.or.jp> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > > I would like to know which card works under FreeBSD 3.1R and FreeBSD > > > > 2.2.8R WITHOUT PAO! > > > > > > Why? "plain FreeBSD"'s APM and PC-Card support is limitted and > > > buggy. You should be use PAO. > > > > No no no. You got it all wrong. PAO support is buggy, FreeBSD APM is > > good, and PCCARD support is limited. :) :) :) > > Why do you think "PAO support is buggy"? Do you read the recent > PAO patch? If you found bugs in PAO, please list up them. > > I can not understand why you dislike PAO so much. Because the number of options/changes that it makes to the stock FreeBSD has often times in the past been wrong. I can say that because many times in the past I found the real bugs in the FreeBSD code and fixed them, while PAO provides one, two, or three different 'workarounds' for the problem rather than trying to find the problem. Next, many of the patches affect too many different parts of the system, and are overkill for 'functionality', yet the PAO folks (after repeated attempts to work with them from me) refused to review and cleanup the patches to their 'necessary to fix the bug' state. It also 'fixes' many of the problems in the wrong way which makes extending the system that much more difficult, so that you end up with a code mess everytime new functionality is required. (Case in point, the PCI support in PAO was a mess last time I looked at it.) Finally, even after I made things very eary for them to merge their work with the baseline FreeBSD code (I spent about 80 hours on just the userland pccardc/pccardd merging) those changes were rejected, along with all of the other FreeBSD changes that were made by other committers. (I could list about 6-7 different 'bugs' that were fixed by me or others that were 'backed out' in PAO and replaced with incorrect workarounds. I don't know if these are still in place, but they were as of about 12 months ago.) Working together to solve a problem means 'working together', and I have seen no attempts at any of the PAO folks (except for kuriyama) who have any desire to work 'with' the FreeBSD people to solve the problem. Even when problems were pointed out in detail, there was no response (or change made to the code) or worse yet the response was something to the effect of 'PAO development is meant to be for laptops only'. (Case in point the APM code in PAO did not follow the APM specification, yet even when I changed the FreeBSD to follow the spec. and pointed the problem out to Tatsumi-san, my email was ignored and PAO *continued* to provide buggy APM support.) This happend over a 9 month period of time almost 2 years ago, yet the code-base still hasn't removed much of the 'useless' code that clutters up the tree. Yes, there are *very* good features in PAO, but wading through the useless changes and getting to the good stuff is hard work. Work that I'm unwilling to do because of the effort required. However, just because I'm unwilling to do the work doesn't mean I'm willing to sacrifice the maintainability and stability of FreeBSD by integrating the PAO patches whole. Heck, I could name off the things I'd like to have that are in PAO. 1) Device support that doesn't exist in FreeBSD. 2) Better pccardd 'configuration' management. 3) The ability to 'kill -HUP' pccardd and have it re-read the device table. 4) Support for additional PCCARD/CardBus controllers. 5) Installation boot floppy support. I could also name things that are/were completely wrong and/or should be redone. 1) Most of the ATA support 2) Most/all of the serial patches 3) The way that ethernet addresses are found/probed, which affects almost all of the additional network drivers that are in PAO, including the Wavelan stuff. I haven't looked in awhile, but potential wrong things 1) pcic is now an ISA device, even though it should not be. 2) PCI/CardBus support is a real mess. 3) 'Everything is a config file "option" configuration' 4) Wavelan support in pccardd. > o PC-card support of "plain FreeBSD" is limitted. PCCARD support in FreeBSD is actually pretty good. However, CardBus support is pretty limited, which means that most newer laptops are not supported. > o There are many notebooks which cannot work with "plain" FreeBSD, > but works fine with PAO. Most of this is configuration. > o There ALREADY exists PAO. There already exists Win95 as well, so should we all start using it? > So, I think "integrate PAO into FreeBSD -> fix PAO bugs if exist" > is EASIER AND FASTER than "ignore PAO and develop FreeBSD." Integrating PAO into FreeBSD is not an option if 'integrating PAO' means applying all of the PAO patches to FreeBSD, regardless of how it negatively affects desktop systems and future work for supporting hardware. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Mar 27 22:39:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C2AF14D2B; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 22:39:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by phk.freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA24118; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 08:39:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA15921; Sun, 28 Mar 1999 08:39:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Nate Williams Cc: Motoyuki Konno , NAKAGAWA Yoshihisa , Philippe CASIDY , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which LAN PCCARD for FreeBSD (no PAO!) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 27 Mar 1999 21:30:09 PDT." <199903280430.VAA06189@mt.sri.com> Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 08:39:08 +0200 Message-ID: <15919.922603148@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <199903280430.VAA06189@mt.sri.com>, Nate Williams writes: >> > > > I would like to know which card works under FreeBSD 3.1R and FreeBSD >> > > > 2.2.8R WITHOUT PAO! >> > > >> > > Why? "plain FreeBSD"'s APM and PC-Card support is limitted and >> > > buggy. You should be use PAO. >> > >> > No no no. You got it all wrong. PAO support is buggy, FreeBSD APM is >> > good, and PCCARD support is limited. :) :) :) >> >> Why do you think "PAO support is buggy"? Do you read the recent >> PAO patch? If you found bugs in PAO, please list up them. >> >> I can not understand why you dislike PAO so much. > >Because the number of options/changes that it makes to the stock FreeBSD >has often times in the past been wrong. I can say that because many >times in the past I found the real bugs in the FreeBSD code and fixed >them, while PAO provides one, two, or three different 'workarounds' for >the problem rather than trying to find the problem. I can only support Nate here. PAO is a great prototype. now we want to heed the excellent advice Frederick P. Brooks gives in his book "The Mythical Man-Month" (ISBN 0-201-83595-9) (p.116 ff): Plan to build a prototype and plan to throw it away, you will anyhow. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message