From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Mar 7 17:39:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from sawasdee.cc.columbia.edu (sawasdee.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.59.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37FF414C85 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 17:39:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stuyman@confusion.net) Received: from confusion.net (dialup-1-77.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.42.86]) by sawasdee.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA01955 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 20:39:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36E32A41.49EA6767@confusion.net> Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 20:39:14 -0500 From: Laurence Berland Organization: B.R.A.T.T. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: HEEEEEEELLLLLLPPPPP!!!! Beyond lost on address prob Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How do I assign a machine its address on my subnet?? Am I totally lost? I feel like this is a question whose answer is so obvious that I'd be laughed at for posting it to Questions. Help! -- Laurence Berland, Stuyvesant HS Debate <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Windows 98: n. useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. http://stuy.debate.net icq #7434346 aol imer E1101 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Mar 7 20:35: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from toxic.magnesium.net (toxic.magnesium.net [204.188.6.238]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 92D9314E5E for ; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 20:33:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from unfurl@toxic.magnesium.net) Received: (qmail 43528 invoked by uid 1001); 8 Mar 1999 04:33:39 -0000 Date: 7 Mar 1999 20:33:39 -0800 Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 20:33:39 -0800 From: Bill Swingle To: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEEEEEEELLLLLLPPPPP!!!! Beyond lost on address prob Message-ID: <19990307203339.A43447@dub.net> References: <36E32A41.49EA6767@confusion.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <36E32A41.49EA6767@confusion.net>; from Laurence Berland on Sun, Mar 07, 1999 at 08:39:14PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Laurence, The easiest way to do this is to edit your /etc/rc.conf file and change the apropriate entries: ifconfig_ed0="inet 10.0.0.2 netmask 255.255.0.0" You can also use the /stand/sysinstall util to do this. It's under: Configure -> Networking -> Interfaces Also, this list is not really for help type questions. In the future please redirect your requests for help to either the newsgroups or to the freebsd-questions mailing list. Thanks :) -Bill On Sun, Mar 07, 1999 at 08:39:14PM -0500, Laurence Berland wrote: > How do I assign a machine its address on my subnet?? Am I totally lost? > I feel like this is a question whose answer is so obvious that I'd be > laughed at for posting it to Questions. Help! -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- All right, brain, I don't like you and you don't like me - so let's just do this and I'll get back to killing you with beer. --Homer Simpson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Mar 7 20:54:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.89.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F9A814C38 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 1999 20:54:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) id AAA21731; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 00:03:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cjc) From: "Crist J. Clark" Message-Id: <199903080503.AAA21731@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Subject: Re: HEEEEEEELLLLLLPPPPP!!!! Beyond lost on address prob In-Reply-To: <36E32A41.49EA6767@confusion.net> from Laurence Berland at "Mar 7, 99 08:39:14 pm" To: stuyman@confusion.net (Laurence Berland) Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 00:03:11 -0500 (EST) Cc: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: cjclark@home.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Laurence Berland wrote, > How do I assign a machine its address on my subnet?? Am I totally lost? > I feel like this is a question whose answer is so obvious that I'd be > laughed at for posting it to Questions. Help! Two things, (1) To make it so that your computer knows its IP address at each start up, edit the line in rc.conf, ifconfig_="inet aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd netmask 255.255.255.0" Where '' is the name of your network device (look in your dmesg output, you have a NIC right?), and 'aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd' is the machine's address. I assumed the mask is 255.255.255.0, but it might be something else. We'd have to know the details of your network. (2) To get it to work NOW, use the same information as above accept enter, while root (the Super-User), # ifconfig inet aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd netmask 255.255.255.0 OK, three things, (3) If this is all a bit much for you, run /stand/sysinstall as root and go to 'Configure,' then 'Networking,' and then 'Interfaces.' Answer the questions and fill in the blanks. All (1) does is automatically do the command line in (2) in the startup scripts. If you are still at a loss, please let us know. HTH. -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Mar 8 19:29:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D8CD14CC1 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 19:29:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hubbardj@earthlink.net) Received: from selway (1Cust199.tnt2.montgomery.al.da.uu.net [208.254.156.199]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA28411 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 19:29:30 -0800 (PST) From: "Thatcher Hubbard" To: Subject: What can a newbie help out with? Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1999 21:25:30 -0600 Message-ID: <000401be69dc$7bc40c80$0500a8c0@selway.thatch.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I noticed somewhere on the FreeBSD.org site that people such as myself who aren't capable of contributing code can help out with documentation and the like. It said I should send a message to this list to find out where I could help. I'm pretty new to FreeBSD, but I have a fair amount of UNIX experience from 2 years of Linux use. I alo make a fairly good copy editor due to a couple years of journalism school. At any rate, I'd like to help the cause if I can, if someone could point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Mar 8 19:49:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A29814DD2 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 19:49:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) id OAA21318; Tue, 9 Mar 1999 14:49:02 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <19990309144858.13028@welearn.com.au> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 14:48:58 +1100 From: Sue Blake To: Thatcher Hubbard Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What can a newbie help out with? References: <000401be69dc$7bc40c80$0500a8c0@selway.thatch.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <000401be69dc$7bc40c80$0500a8c0@selway.thatch.org>; from Thatcher Hubbard on Mon, Mar 08, 1999 at 09:25:30PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Mar 08, 1999 at 09:25:30PM -0600, Thatcher Hubbard wrote: > I noticed somewhere on the FreeBSD.org site that people such as myself who > aren't capable of contributing code can help out with documentation and the > like. It said I should send a message to this list to find out where I > could help. I'm pretty new to FreeBSD, but I have a fair amount of UNIX > experience from 2 years of Linux use. I alo make a fairly good copy editor > due to a couple years of journalism school. At any rate, I'd like to help > the cause if I can, if someone could point me in the right direction I'd > appreciate it. I wrote a pile of random suggestions for someone else here a couple of weeks ago. You could find it by searching the mail archives on the FreeBSD web site. All you need to do is think about what you'd like to see done, and do it. Most of the people who do things haven't been a newbie for a long time and forget what it's like. If you're new to FreeBSD your perspective is rare and valuable. If you've also moved over from Linux that's an even more valuable perspective. Just be sure to mention what you'd like to do (freebsd-newbies is a safe place for starters) in case anyone else is doing the same thing. It's a bit different here because it's only newbies and mistakes are quickly forgotten. Some of us get excited about the most whacky ideas, toss them around a bit, and when most of it comes to nothing we still find at least one tiny gem among it all. So start brainstorming :-) -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Mar 8 22:35:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net (ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net [198.36.160.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C85A814FD6 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 22:35:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dpilgrim@uswest.net) Received: (qmail 15366 invoked by alias); 9 Mar 1999 06:35:18 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG@fixme Received: (qmail 15341 invoked by uid 0); 9 Mar 1999 06:35:18 -0000 Received: from bdsl224.ptld.uswest.net (HELO uswest.net) (209.180.169.224) by ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net with SMTP; 9 Mar 1999 06:35:18 -0000 Message-ID: <36E4C127.864AEDCC@uswest.net> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 22:35:19 -0800 From: Nocturne Organization: Neatly stacked heaps of digital chaos X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sue Blake Cc: Thatcher Hubbard , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What can a newbie help out with? References: <000401be69dc$7bc40c80$0500a8c0@selway.thatch.org> <19990309144858.13028@welearn.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >> I'm pretty new to FreeBSD, but I have a fair amount of UNIX >> experience from 2 years of Linux use. I alo make a fairly good copy editor >> due to a couple years of journalism school. At any rate, I'd like to help >> the cause if I can, if someone could point me in the right direction I'd >> appreciate it. Right now there's a desperate need for people who can write good press releases and send them to newspapers, magazines, etc. Your journalism skills would come in quite handy. There's also talk in -chat of having Walnut Creek (the people who distribute the CD sets) print off a new set of man pages and I know that some pages are direly in need of updating. I think Brett Glass is gathering together groups of people to start a press blitz. Ask about it in freebsd-advocacy. -- dpilgrim@uswest.net ICQ: 29880099 gryph@mindless.com PGP DH/DSS key available If you're gonna build a house of cards, use the plastic coated kind Cuz I'll bet the homeowner's insurance won't cover flood damage To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Mar 8 22:43:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net (ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net [198.36.160.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A73D415116 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 1999 22:43:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dpilgrim@uswest.net) Received: (qmail 21704 invoked by alias); 9 Mar 1999 06:43:06 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG@fixme Received: (qmail 21674 invoked by uid 0); 9 Mar 1999 06:43:05 -0000 Received: from bdsl224.ptld.uswest.net (HELO uswest.net) (209.180.169.224) by ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net with SMTP; 9 Mar 1999 06:43:05 -0000 Message-ID: <36E4C2FA.CE99B9CC@uswest.net> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 1999 22:43:06 -0800 From: Nocturne Organization: Neatly stacked heaps of digital chaos X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sue Blake , Thatcher Hubbard , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What can a newbie help out with? References: <000401be69dc$7bc40c80$0500a8c0@selway.thatch.org> <19990309144858.13028@welearn.com.au> <36E4C127.864AEDCC@uswest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >> I'm pretty new to FreeBSD, but I have a fair amount of UNIX > >> experience from 2 years of Linux use. I alo make a fairly good copy editor > >> due to a couple years of journalism school. At any rate, I'd like to help > >> the cause if I can, if someone could point me in the right direction I'd > >> appreciate it. > > Right now there's a desperate need for people who can write good press > releases and send them to newspapers, magazines, etc. Your journalism > skills would come in quite handy. > > There's also talk in -chat of having Walnut Creek (the people who ^^^^^ My mistake, the discussion is taking place in -questions. > distribute the CD sets) print off a new set of man pages and I know > that some pages are direly in need of updating. I think Brett Glass > is gathering together groups of people to start a press blitz. Ask > about it in freebsd-advocacy. -- dpilgrim@uswest.net ICQ: 29880099 gryph@mindless.com PGP DH/DSS key available If you're gonna build a house of cards, use the plastic coated kind Cuz I'll bet the homeowner's insurance won't cover flood damage To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Mar 10 12: 8:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from gauntlet.petech.ac.za (gauntlet.petech.ac.za [196.37.151.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C84A3152CB for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 12:08:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from 9846817@ml.petech.ac.za) Received: by gauntlet.petech.ac.za; id WAA11451; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 22:08:10 +0200 (SAT) Received: from ed.petech.ac.za(192.96.7.1) by gauntlet.petech.ac.za via smap (4.0) id xma011295; Wed, 10 Mar 99 22:07:53 +0200 Received: from ml.petech.ac.za (ml.petech.ac.za [192.96.7.37]) by ed.petech.ac.za (8.7.5/8.6.10) with SMTP id EAA06450 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 04:24:10 +0200 Received: from PETNET-Message_Server by ml.petech.ac.za with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 22:08:09 +0200 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 16:22:33 +0200 From: JDM BEZUIDENHOUT <9846817@ml.petech.ac.za> To: FREEBSD-NEWBIES@freebsd.org Subject: subscribe FREEBSD-NEWBIES Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe FREEBSD-NEWBIES To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Mar 10 12:26:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from server01.gw.total-web.net (server01.gw.total-web.net [209.186.12.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 924CC1524C for ; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 12:26:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bangpath@bellsouth.net) Received: from kagero.gw.total-web.net (ip-149-116.gw.total-web.net [209.186.149.116]) by server01.gw.total-web.net (2.5 Build 2640 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA07659; Wed, 10 Mar 1999 15:22:55 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990310152543.007a1770@mail.atl.bellsouth.net> X-Sender: bangpath@mail.atl.bellsouth.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 15:25:43 -0800 To: JDM BEZUIDENHOUT <9846817@ml.petech.ac.za> From: borehawg Subject: Re: subscribe FREEBSD-NEWBIES Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Send the subscribe request to majordomo@freebsd.org We're just corporals here :-) At 04:22 PM 3/10/99 +0200, you wrote: >subscribe FREEBSD-NEWBIES > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -------------------------------------- Andrew ---> bangpath@bellsouth.net -------------------------------------- C++? Java? Perl? To Hell with it!! AppleSoft Basic all the way!!! Dude! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Mar 11 10:40: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.enteract.com (thor.enteract.com [207.229.143.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9686C14FCE for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:39:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jrs@enteract.com) Received: (qmail 7988 invoked from network); 11 Mar 1999 18:38:03 -0000 Received: from adam.enteract.com (jrs@206.54.252.1) by thor.enteract.com with SMTP; 11 Mar 1999 18:38:03 -0000 Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 12:38:02 -0600 (CST) From: John Sconiers To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: strating the GUI Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Quick question that I don't think is technical enough for -qustions. Have a desktop. Is there a way to get an xwindows login prompt simular to solaris' or start windows automatically. I know I can do a startx at the end of my .profile but I just wondered if there was another way. JRS To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Mar 11 10:58:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hcol.humberc.on.ca (hcol.humberc.on.ca [142.214.101.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CDB6214D3D for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:57:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scqdaf@globalserve.net) X-ROUTED: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 13:57:12 -0500 Received: from [10.1.0.5] [209.90.132.101] by hcol.humberc.on.ca with smtp id $T104235 ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 13:56:16 -0500 X-Sender: scqdaf@mail.globalserve.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 13:17:31 -0500 To: FreeBSD-Newbies From: Dennis Favro Subject: Samba as a Backup Domain Controller Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can Samba be configured as a NT Backup Domain Controller? I'd like to have a few machines handle logins and such if our NT PDC crashes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Mar 11 11: 4: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from server01.gw.total-web.net (server01.gw.total-web.net [209.186.12.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B7614E71 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:03:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bangpath@bellsouth.net) Received: from kagero.gw.total-web.net (ip-149-116.gw.total-web.net [209.186.149.116]) by server01.gw.total-web.net (2.5 Build 2640 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA03412; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:01:37 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990311140505.0087d2e0@mail.atl.bellsouth.net> X-Sender: bangpath@mail.atl.bellsouth.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:05:05 -0800 To: John Sconiers From: borehawg Subject: Re: strating the GUI Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think it's called kdm. I haven't ever used it, because I prefer to maintain a command line freedom of action. Also, if you want to pay for a commercial x-server, like Metro-X or AcceleratedX or something, then that feature is available as part of the server package. Look in /usr/ports/x11 or better yet, go into /stand/sysinstall and look thru the individual packages since there will be a small, concise description at the bottom when you're scrolling thru the packages. At 12:38 PM 3/11/99 -0600, you wrote: > >Quick question that I don't think is technical enough for -qustions. Have >a desktop. Is there a way to get an xwindows login prompt simular to >solaris' or start windows automatically. I know I can do a startx at the >end of my .profile but I just wondered if there was another way. > >JRS -------------------------------------- Andrew ---> bangpath@bellsouth.net -------------------------------------- C++? Java? Perl? To Hell with it!! AppleSoft Basic all the way!!! Dude! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Mar 11 11:39:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2445E15106 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:39:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) id GAA01796; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 06:38:53 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <19990312063849.04943@welearn.com.au> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 06:38:49 +1100 From: Sue Blake To: John Sconiers Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: strating the GUI References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: ; from John Sconiers on Thu, Mar 11, 1999 at 12:38:02PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Mar 11, 1999 at 12:38:02PM -0600, John Sconiers wrote: > > Quick question that I don't think is technical enough for -qustions. Have > a desktop. Is there a way to get an xwindows login prompt simular to > solaris' or start windows automatically. I know I can do a startx at the > end of my .profile but I just wondered if there was another way. There is no such thing as a question that's "not technical enough" for freebsd-questions. We can help to sort out your question's wording before you post there if you're worried about it, but if any of us newbies want to try to answer we should move to freebsd-questions first. For your question you should be able to find the answer in the FreeBSD FAQ. I guess you know that people will laugh at you (in any mailing list) if you ask a question that's already answered in the FAQ, and I guess you didn't recognise the answer when you read the FAQ because you didn't know what word to look for. That makes it hard. What you need is called "XDM". Skim down the FAQ questions and you'll see one there about XDM, and it discusses the two ways of using it. You can also type 'man xdm' for more information that you dreamed of. If you have any problems or questions about this, you can write to freebsd-questions now that you know what to call it :-) If you have a serious problem with the way part of the FAQ (or Handbook) is written, consider how you would reword it and send your suggestion to the Documentation Project list freebsd-doc@freebsd.org. The Doc team and future newbies will be grateful for your improvements. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Mar 11 11:45:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A34CF151CA; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:45:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) id GAA01816; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 06:45:02 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <19990312064458.35774@welearn.com.au> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 06:44:58 +1100 From: Sue Blake To: borehawg Cc: John Sconiers , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: strating the GUI References: <3.0.5.32.19990311140505.0087d2e0@mail.atl.bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990311140505.0087d2e0@mail.atl.bellsouth.net>; from borehawg on Thu, Mar 11, 1999 at 02:05:05PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > At 12:38 PM 3/11/99 -0600, you wrote: > > > >Quick question that I don't think is technical enough for -qustions. Have > >a desktop. Is there a way to get an xwindows login prompt simular to > >solaris' or start windows automatically. I know I can do a startx at the > >end of my .profile but I just wondered if there was another way. > > On Thu, Mar 11, 1999 at 02:05:05PM -0800, borehawg wrote: > I think it's called kdm. I haven't ever used it, because I prefer to > maintain a command line freedom of action. Me too. It's called xdm but we picked that up in our -newbies thread. > Also, if you want to pay for a commercial x-server, like Metro-X or > AcceleratedX or something, then that feature is available as part of the > server package. No need. Use the same free X server that comes with FreeBSD and xdm is there already, as long as you can remember what it's called :-) For the sake of the -questions archives, yes, it is in the FAQ but any excited newbie could miss it if they hadn't heard of 'xdm' before. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Mar 11 11:46:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com (s205m64.whistle.com [207.76.205.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1641315319 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:46:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id LAA93276; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:46:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:46:28 -0800 (PST) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <199903111946.LAA93276@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, jrs@enteract.com Subject: Re: strating the GUI In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 12:38:02 -0600 (CST) >From: John Sconiers >Quick question that I don't think is technical enough for -qustions. Have >a desktop. Is there a way to get an xwindows login prompt simular to >solaris' or start windows automatically. I know I can do a startx at the >end of my .profile but I just wondered if there was another way. The program you seek is called "xdm". I find the discussion of it in the O'Reilly _X Window System Administrator's Guide_ (Vol. 8 of the series) useful. Cheers, david -- David Wolfskill UNIX System Administrator dhw@whistle.com voice: (650) 577-7158 pager: (650) 371-4621 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Mar 11 11:48: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29CEE150F4; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:47:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) id GAA01832; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 06:47:29 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <19990312064725.04443@welearn.com.au> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 06:47:25 +1100 From: Sue Blake To: Dennis Favro Cc: FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: Samba as a Backup Domain Controller Reply-To: Dennis Favro References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: ; from Dennis Favro on Thu, Mar 11, 1999 at 01:17:31PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dennis, I'm sending this on to freebsd-questions for you. On Thu, Mar 11, 1999 at 01:17:31PM -0500, Dennis Favro wrote: > Can Samba be configured as a NT Backup Domain Controller? I'd like to > have a few machines handle logins and such if our NT PDC crashes. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Mar 11 11:59:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ic.net (ic.net [152.160.8.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CE20414FF4 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:59:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Gus@Economics.net) Received: (qmail 20366 invoked from network); 11 Mar 1999 19:59:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO economics.net) (152.160.61.1) by unknown with SMTP; 11 Mar 1999 19:59:31 -0000 Received: from [192.168.1.2] by economics.net with ESMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 1.2.1b3); Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:55:35 -0500 X-Sender: Gus@mail.sleeplabsoftware.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990312063849.04943@welearn.com.au> References: ; from John Sconiers on Thu, Mar 11, 1999 at 12:38:02PM -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 14:58:39 -0500 To: John Sconiers From: Edwin Gustafson Subject: Re: strating the GUI Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings, If you do decide to try kdm, note that it's related to the K Desktop Environment integrated desktop, http://www.kde.org/. It's described on the website as an "xdm replacement" and is currently at version 0.5. It's part of the kdebase collection of KDE programs, so I would look for it in the kdebase package/port rather than under its own name. Unless you're already interested in KDE, I would try xdm first to see if it does what you need. That's because KDE requires a lot of other packages/ports to function. It's overkill to install them all just to get kdm, IMHO. At 6:38 +1100 1999.3.12, Sue Blake wrote: >On Thu, Mar 11, 1999 at 12:38:02PM -0600, John Sconiers wrote: >> >> Quick question that I don't think is technical enough for -qustions. Have >> a desktop. Is there a way to get an xwindows login prompt simular to >> solaris' or start windows automatically. I know I can do a startx at the >> end of my .profile but I just wondered if there was another way. > >There is no such thing as a question that's "not technical enough" for >freebsd-questions. We can help to sort out your question's wording >before you post there if you're worried about it, but if any of us >newbies want to try to answer we should move to freebsd-questions >first. > >For your question you should be able to find the answer in the FreeBSD >FAQ. I guess you know that people will laugh at you (in any mailing >list) if you ask a question that's already answered in the FAQ, and I >guess you didn't recognise the answer when you read the FAQ because you >didn't know what word to look for. That makes it hard. > >What you need is called "XDM". Skim down the FAQ questions and you'll >see one there about XDM, and it discusses the two ways of using it. >You can also type 'man xdm' for more information that you dreamed of. > >If you have any problems or questions about this, you can write to >freebsd-questions now that you know what to call it :-) > >If you have a serious problem with the way part of the FAQ (or >Handbook) is written, consider how you would reword it and send your >suggestion to the Documentation Project list freebsd-doc@freebsd.org. >The Doc team and future newbies will be grateful for your improvements. > >-- > >Regards, > -*Sue*- > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message ----- Edwin Gustafson Gus@Economics.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Mar 11 17:18:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from server01.gw.total-web.net (server01.gw.total-web.net [209.186.12.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D858515007 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 17:18:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bangpath@bellsouth.net) Received: from kagero.gw.total-web.net (ip-149-116.gw.total-web.net [209.186.149.116]) by server01.gw.total-web.net (2.5 Build 2640 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id UAA00005 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 20:16:23 -0500 Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 20:20:58 -0500 (EST) From: borehawg X-Sender: bangpath@kagero.gw.total-web.net To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: strating the GUI In-Reply-To: <19990312064458.35774@welearn.com.au> Message-ID: X-Comment: My bologna has a first name... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have also found stuff from the Linux Documentation Project to be helpful as well, since a lot the utilities are GNU on both sides, and others are either ported to or from Linux. It certainly doesn't apply to a lot of FreeBSD specific features (partitioning, compiling kernels, etc) but XFree86, basic networking tools and others are very similar (if not the same). It was through reading Linux Doc Project that I originally heard about xdm (or kdm, as I was thinking :-) On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, Sue Blake wrote: > > At 12:38 PM 3/11/99 -0600, you wrote: > > > > > >Quick question that I don't think is technical enough for -qustions. Have > > >a desktop. Is there a way to get an xwindows login prompt simular to > > For the sake of the -questions archives, yes, it is in the FAQ but any > excited newbie could miss it if they hadn't heard of 'xdm' before. > > -- > > Regards, > -*Sue*- --------------------------------------------- andrew ------> bangpath@bellsouth.net --------------------------------------------- C++? Java?? Perl??? To Hell with it all!!! AppleSoft Basic all the way! Dude! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Mar 11 17:37:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ponyexpress.gwc.cccd.edu (ponyexpress.gwc.cccd.edu [159.115.129.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB44014D41 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 17:37:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gregh@rustler.gwc.cccd.edu) Received: from rustler.gwc.cccd.edu (ghyska.csc.gwc.cccd.edu [159.115.129.102]) by ponyexpress.gwc.cccd.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA09930; Thu, 11 Mar 1999 17:38:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <36E86FF3.6E9B8D99@rustler.gwc.cccd.edu> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 17:37:55 -0800 From: greg Organization: Golden West College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dennis Favro Cc: FreeBSD-Newbies Subject: Re: Samba as a Backup Domain Controller References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Currently Samba can be a PDC but not a BDC, according to Jeremy Allison of the Samba Team at LinuxWorld in San Jose, CA last Wednesday. Dennis Favro wrote: > > Can Samba be configured as a NT Backup Domain Controller? I'd like to > have a few machines handle logins and such if our NT PDC crashes. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 12 1: 0:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from isis.dynip.com (unknown [139.141.220.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E02B71525B for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 00:59:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@isis.dynip.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by isis.dynip.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA48438 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:59:37 +0300 (AST) (envelope-from root) Message-Id: <199903120859.LAA48438@isis.dynip.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:59:32 +0300 (AST) From: root@isis.dynip.com Reply-To: root@isis.dynip.com Subject: Word Perfect Splitting Needed ****** URGENTLY ********* To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there, I am trying to fetch WordPerfect 8.0 from /ports It refuses to automatically fetch it, because you have to go to the web page of the vendor and sign a licence agreement, which I already DONE, but the problem is the file GUILG00.GZ or *.BIN is so huge that I am not able to download in single session, because frequently my ppp connection drops, and I have to start ALL over again, and the http of vendor doesnot allow fragemnted downloading. Can a GREAT soul, fragment it using 'split' utility and put it on some ftp site for me. I am already registered on the WP web, so I am not breaking any licences, if you are afraid to put on public ftp, you can send me private email to tell me how to get it from your site. Thanks very much in advance, I really need WP for my JOB, PLEASE. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 12 1:22:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA86115283 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 01:22:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) id UAA04277; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 20:21:39 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <19990312202135.28688@welearn.com.au> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 20:21:35 +1100 From: Sue Blake To: root@isis.dynip.com Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Word Perfect Splitting ILLEGAL References: <199903120859.LAA48438@isis.dynip.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <199903120859.LAA48438@isis.dynip.com>; from root@isis.dynip.com on Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 11:59:32AM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 11:59:32AM +0300, root@isis.dynip.com wrote: > > Can a GREAT soul, fragment it using 'split' utility and put it on some > ftp site for me. I am already registered on the WP web, so I am not > breaking any licences, if you are afraid to put on public ftp, you can > send me private email to tell me how to get it from your site. Whoah, that is illegal. You may only collect the file from the Corel site, and you may not pass it on. If anyone does this for you they could get into trouble as well as you. But you probably didn't realise. Unfortunately, no-one here would be in a position to help you with your request. But there's a way you can get the file yourself if you can FTP it. The standard FreeBSD FTP client will 'reget' a file that you already have part of. Check the man page to see how. Any illegal activity is totally off topic for FreeBSD lists and results in all parties being barred from using the lists, but in freebsd-newbies we expect everyone to make some genuine mistakes before learning all the ropes :-) Many have tripped over WordPerfect before. You might find someone in freebsd-questions has found a solution to the same problem. Check the mail archives on the web site. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 12 6:24: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from tekincisnts-4.teklogix.com (unknown [207.219.2.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D8C015300 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 06:23:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mpoulin@honk.org) Received: from INCISWNT-428 ([10.64.5.198]) by tekincisnts-4.teklogix.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2232.9) id 1TY1M43N; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 09:23:25 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990312092325.00909be0@spectre.honk.org> X-Sender: mpoulin@spectre.honk.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 09:23:25 -0500 To: root@isis.dynip.com, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: "M. Poulin" Subject: Re: Word Perfect Splitting Needed ****** URGENTLY ********* In-Reply-To: <199903120859.LAA48438@isis.dynip.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You can download a copy of Wordperfect in 7 small files at http://www.download.com/pc/software/0,332,0-42505-g,1000.html?st.dl.redir.tx t.tdtl This site is directly linked from Corel's linux site, so I am assuming that it is legal to obtain a copy of it from there. M. At 11:59 AM 3/12/99 +0300, root@isis.dynip.com wrote: >Hi there, >I am trying to fetch WordPerfect 8.0 from /ports >It refuses to automatically fetch it, because you have to go to the web >page of the vendor and sign a licence agreement, which I already DONE, >but the problem is the file GUILG00.GZ or *.BIN is so huge that I am >not able to download in single session, because frequently my ppp >connection drops, and I have to start ALL over again, and the http of >vendor doesnot allow fragemnted downloading. > >Can a GREAT soul, fragment it using 'split' utility and put it on some >ftp site for me. I am already registered on the WP web, so I am not >breaking any licences, if you are afraid to put on public ftp, you can >send me private email to tell me how to get it from your site. > >Thanks very much in advance, I really need WP for my JOB, PLEASE. > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 12 7:32:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from isis.dynip.com (unknown [139.141.220.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E17915373 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 07:32:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@isis.dynip.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by isis.dynip.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id SAA18443; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 18:30:56 +0300 (AST) (envelope-from root) Message-Id: <199903121530.SAA18443@isis.dynip.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 18:30:49 +0300 (AST) From: root@isis.dynip.com Reply-To: root@isis.dynip.com Subject: Re: Word Perfect Splitting Needed ****** URGENTLY ********* To: mpoulin@honk.org Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990312092325.00909be0@spectre.honk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 12 Mar, M. Poulin wrote: > You can download a copy of Wordperfect in 7 small files at > > http://www.download.com/pc/software/0,332,0-42505-g,1000.html?st.dl.redir.tx > t.tdtl > > This site is directly linked from Corel's linux site, so I am assuming that > it is legal to obtain a copy of it from there. > > > M. > > At 11:59 AM 3/12/99 +0300, root@isis.dynip.com wrote: >>Hi there, >>I am trying to fetch WordPerfect 8.0 from /ports >>It refuses to automatically fetch it, because you have to go to the web >>page of the vendor and sign a licence agreement, which I already DONE, >>but the problem is the file GUILG00.GZ or *.BIN is so huge that I am >>not able to download in single session, because frequently my ppp >>connection drops, and I have to start ALL over again, and the http of >>vendor doesnot allow fragemnted downloading. >> >>Can a GREAT soul, fragment it using 'split' utility and put it on some >>ftp site for me. I am already registered on the WP web, so I am not >>breaking any licences, if you are afraid to put on public ftp, you can >>send me private email to tell me how to get it from your site. >> >>Thanks very much in advance, I really need WP for my JOB, PLEASE. >> >> >> >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message >> >> > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message Thanks very very much. Tel SysOps on this, and other FreeBSD lists, to S T O P I N T I M I D A T I N G innocent users, and for God's sakes please try at least once not to give a negative answer or a negative attitude to newbies, or pros alike. DDDDDDDUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHH To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 12 8:28: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from tekincisnts-4.teklogix.com (unknown [207.219.2.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB0791530B for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 08:27:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mpoulin@honk.org) Received: from INCISWNT-428 ([10.64.5.198]) by tekincisnts-4.teklogix.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2232.9) id 1TY1M4X0; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:27:39 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990312112739.00909100@spectre.honk.org> X-Sender: mpoulin@spectre.honk.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:27:39 -0500 To: root@isis.dynip.com From: "M. Poulin" Subject: Re: Word Perfect Splitting Needed ****** URGENTLY ********* Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199903121530.SAA18443@isis.dynip.com> References: <3.0.3.32.19990312092325.00909be0@spectre.honk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 06:30 PM 3/12/99 +0300, root@isis.dynip.com wrote: >On 12 Mar, M. Poulin wrote: >> You can download a copy of Wordperfect in 7 small files at >> >> http://www.download.com/pc/software/0,332,0-42505-g,1000.html?st.dl.redir.tx t.tdtl >> >> This site is directly linked from Corel's linux site, so I am assuming that >> it is legal to obtain a copy of it from there. > >Thanks very very much. You're very very welcome. Glad to help. >Tel SysOps on this, and other FreeBSD lists, to > >S T O P I N T I M I D A T I N G > >innocent users, and for God's sakes please try at least once not to >give a negative answer or a negative attitude to newbies, or pros alike. > >DDDDDDDUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHH I have to disagree with you on this - first of all, I don't think that it was Sue's intention to "intimidate" anyone; her main concern was to let everyone know that the lists have some strict rules regarding licenced software, and if you don't follow the rules you might get kicked off the list. I would take that as a friendly warning, not a threat. I don't think that Sue or anyone else is trying to be negative towards newbies, but since she is the moderator, it is her job to inform people of the rules of the list. M. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 12 11:34:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from isis.dynip.com (unknown [139.141.220.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C8A015337 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:34:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@isis.dynip.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by isis.dynip.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id WAA12450 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 22:33:58 +0300 (AST) (envelope-from root) Message-Id: <199903121933.WAA12450@isis.dynip.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 22:33:53 +0300 (AST) From: root@isis.dynip.com Reply-To: root@isis.dynip.com Subject: Re: Word Perfect Splitting Needed ****** URGENTLY ********* To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990312112739.00909100@spectre.honk.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 12 Mar, M. Poulin wrote: > http://www.download.com/pc/software/0,332,0-42505-g,1000.html?st.dl.redir.tx > t.tdtl Ok, No one get angree, don't worry anymore. I have found a URL in australia, Qualified & Certified from Corel. Downloaded a 23 Megs File using fragmented downloads, as this server allows. Setup Word Perfect For (you know what) (the Word)(Linux). Found a message on my screen (segmentation Fault, Core Dumped), then , OK installation continues, I was Happy. After some time Installation asked some Questions , I answered Happily. After All that ended. We come to the moment of truth. I cd tp wpbin directory, and happily entered ./xwp and the program BLEW up in my face, with the thing (???) Segmentation Fault, Core Dumped. (F.....???) That reminds me of the you know what (M$ ???), big white box with BLACK letters written in it. I am running FreeBSD-4.0-Current Enough Memory (64 MB) Enough HD ( > 2.5 GB Free) Enough Resources (Single user on line) Linux Emulation (not sure of its functionality though) Heeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllppppppppppppppp thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 12 13: 1:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.accnorwalk.com (mail.accnorwalk.com [207.87.221.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6BD7152F7 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:00:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gary@edisoninfo.com) Received: from EdisonInfo.com ([209.45.243.90]) by mail.accnorwalk.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 564-57475U4500L450S0V35) with ESMTP id AAA176 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 16:09:09 -0500 Message-ID: <36E98020.86E1B37F@EdisonInfo.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 15:59:12 -0500 From: "Gary S. Mackay" Reply-To: Gary@EdisonInfo.com Organization: Edison Information Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Ports? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org OK, I've been working with RedHat for over a year and have become fairly decent with Linux. Now, my next challange is to conquer FreeBSD. (I'm reviewing each so as to better consult my clients) anyway, I created the boot disk, installed FreeBsd 2.2.8 and it is attached to the network just fine. I can telnet, ftp, etc. Now, my main objective is to create a web server. I selected the apache.xxx port and watched it install something, but it doesn't seem to be running. I don't see anything that looks like it in "ps aux" nor can I browse to it from my WinXX boxes. I found the /usr/ports/www/... series of directories, but everytime I launch the make command, it tries to go to the web and download stuff. Don't I have what I need on the CD? (I purchased it from LinuxMall for $1.89, big spender!) My question: What the heck are ports and where can I find documentation so that I can RTFM? Just get me started, please :) -- Edison Information Technologies P.O. Box 554 Milan, OH 44846-0554 419.499.7040 Gary@EdisonInfo.com -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 12 13: 8:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from isis.dynip.com (unknown [139.141.220.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ED5114D2C for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:07:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@isis.dynip.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by isis.dynip.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id AAA74864; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 00:07:04 +0300 (AST) (envelope-from root) Message-Id: <199903122107.AAA74864@isis.dynip.com> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 00:06:57 +0300 (AST) From: root@isis.dynip.com Reply-To: root@isis.dynip.com Subject: Re: Word Perfect Splitting Needed ****** URGENTLY ********* To: dhw@whistle.com Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199903121954.LAA99674@pau-amma.whistle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 12 Mar, David Wolfskill wrote: > Given the extent of your background that you have mentioned thus far, What is this suppose to mean ?? What gave you any idea, what so ever about my BACKGROUND ?? > and the forum in which this is being requested, I respectfully suggest > that -CURRENT is *not* an appropriate OS for you to be running. Yes, but 2 considerations: 1. It is NOT a Question about -Current, but about WordPerfect 2. Everyone is so arrogant, and very PUSHY on -current, and less arrogant and more IGNORING on -Questions > Questions about CURRENT go to freebsd-current@freebsd.org, but you > should be prepared for highly non-trivial debugging, quite possibly at > the kernel level. I only need to know if this is a KNOWN problem, or It is only on my local Installation, a less NEGATIVE answer would have benn;;;;; I am running -current too, and works fine for me, check your linux emulation. Yes, this is a known problem, and Mr. GURU lehey is debugging the damn kernel that Mr. GURU Gordan have produced. > -CURRENT is for people who wish to be on the bleeding edge. I will be bored to hell if I run -stable, I like adventures like this, I keep learning more about people and FreeBSD this way. >>Heeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllppppppppppppppp > > Basically, this appears to be a self-inflicted injury. > NOT FUNNY, though. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 12 13:20:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E4F14D03 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:20:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from charon@freethought.org) Received: from c40948-a ([24.1.7.99]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail v4.00.03 201-229-104) with SMTP id <19990312212039.XKNF22357.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@c40948-a>; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:20:39 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990312132016.00a23aa0@mail> X-Sender: tuathadedanann@mail X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:20:16 -0800 To: root@isis.dynip.com From: charon@freethought.org Subject: Re: Word Perfect Splitting Needed ****** URGENTLY ********* Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199903122107.AAA74864@isis.dynip.com> References: <199903121954.LAA99674@pau-amma.whistle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 12:06 AM 3/13/99 +0300, root@isis.dynip.com wrote: >I will be bored to hell if I run -stable, I like adventures like this, >I keep learning more about people and FreeBSD this way. Hmmm... although I share some of your frustration with condescending gurus, I'd have to say that if you _like_ adventures like this, then don't complain... And if you're using this machine for your business (as you indicated before), then perhaps it'd be wise to be boring with it... have adventures with another machine, perhaps. Charon@freethought.org http://members.home.net/tuathadedanann/ "You are one of the least benightedly unintelligent organic life forms it has been my profound lack of pleasure not to be able to avoid meeting." -Marvin the Paranoid Android Charon@freethought.org http://members.home.net/tuathadedanann/ "You are one of the least benightedly unintelligent organic life forms it has been my profound lack of pleasure not to be able to avoid meeting." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 12 13:26:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from isis.dynip.com (unknown [139.141.220.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F5BE14CD4 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:26:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@isis.dynip.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by isis.dynip.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id AAA86909; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 00:26:07 +0300 (AST) (envelope-from root) Message-Id: <199903122126.AAA86909@isis.dynip.com> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 00:26:05 +0300 (AST) From: root@isis.dynip.com Reply-To: root@isis.dynip.com Subject: Re: Ports? To: Gary@EdisonInfo.com Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <36E98020.86E1B37F@EdisonInfo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 12 Mar, Gary S. Mackay wrote: > web server. I selected the apache.xxx port and watched it install > something, but it doesn't seem to be running. One Question here, are you running it from inetd or standalone. I am running it from /etc/inetd.con and working great. Did you edit its configuration files in /etc/apache or /etc/local/apache at least 2 or 3 files must be OK before it running ok. If you want I'll send you you my config files >I don't see anything that > looks like it in "ps aux" try ps -aux | grep httpd --> if running stand alone httpd try ps -aux | grep inetd ---> if running from inetd, then cat /etc/inetd | grep http to see the line invokin it. P.S.: it is worth noting that running TCPWRAPPERS is great security thing, allows you to get IP, hostnames of people getting to your WEB. >nor can I browse to it from my WinXX boxes. I Don't know about that ?? > found the /usr/ports/www/... series of directories, but everytime I > launch the make command, it tries to go to the web and download stuff. > Don't I have what I need on the CD? (I purchased it from LinuxMall for > $1.89, big spender!) Ha Ha, Wait, do you have something like; /usr/ports/distfiles or /ports/distfiles or /distfiles on this VERY EXPENSIVE CD :-) if so; go to /usr/ports then do the following (assuming you mount your CD drive as /mnt/cdrom) ln -s /mnt/cdrom/distfiles /usr/ports/distfiles This will prevent the ftp/http seeking CUZ the ports mechanism defaults to search in this /usr/ports/distfiles direcotry FIRSTR, if doesnot exist or file not found there, will try to go to a series of KNOWN URLs to fetch it using the GREAT utility 'fetch' the PORTS mechanism works as follows: 1. make fetch --> brings the file to your local machine (if not available), or just checks its there (e.g. on CDROM symlinked there) 2. make ---> will build the port (includes: check MD5 checksum, configuration, build dependencies and installs them as necessary, compile, and finally link the port) 3. make install --> obviously installs the port, and registers the installation in /var/db/pkg 4. make package --> gets the COMPILED files, and put them in TAR.GZ format, in /usr/ports/packages these can be themselves installed later with pkg_add command Further reading: 1. FreeBSD Handbook /usr/share/doc/handbook 2. FreeBSD FAQ /usr/share/doc/FAQ 3. Greg Lehey's Complete FreeBSD manual (DONT ASK FOR IT ON MAIL LISTS, it is copyright) can be puchased on the Walnut Creek CD ROM, but heck you'll pay again, STINGY. Thanks -- - MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU. ~o .^. ---------------------------- ___ o~ .00 ) Static Email : osiris2002@yahoo.com /| o~ /)( Bouncing Email : root@isis.dynip.com / | | \ Web Site : http://isis.dynip.com:80 (Frames) ___/ | / \ Anon FTP Site : ftp://isis.dynip.com:21 (anonymous) | /''___/ / | Gopher Site : gopher://isis.dynip.com:70 | /'''/___/ | Network News : isis.dynip.com (Read, Post, Xfer) __|/'''/ Mailing Lists : majordomo@isis.dynip.com (public) pgp key : finger root@isis.dynip.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 12 15:40:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from dsinw.com (dsinw.com [207.149.40.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C35F314FF6 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 15:39:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hamellr@dsinw.com) Received: from bb-b1-11a (ppp81.pm3-0.pdx.dsinw.com [207.149.41.81]) by dsinw.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA14938; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 15:35:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 15:37:05 -0800 () From: Rick Hamell To: root@isis.dynip.com Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Word Perfect Splitting Needed ****** URGENTLY ********* In-Reply-To: <199903121933.WAA12450@isis.dynip.com> Message-ID: X-X-Sender: hamellr@dsinw.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ask the question in freebsd-questions, not -newbies...:) But do you have Linux emulation loaded? Rick www.grendal.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 12 16:42:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pop01.globecomm.net (pop01.globecomm.net [206.253.129.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46281154B6 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 16:42:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zen@buddhist.com) Received: from WhizKid (r42.bfm.org [208.18.213.138]) by pop01.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id TAA13446 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 19:41:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990312184205.008eabe0@mail.bfm.org> X-Sender: stanislav@mail.bfm.org (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 18:42:05 -0600 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: "G. Adam Stanislav" Subject: Horror story Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, folks, I do not know what else to call it but a horror story. Yesterday I received my new 10.2 Gig hard drive. I ordered it because I was running FreeBSD on a 60 Meg slice I cut out of my Windows disk. Well, my BIOS CMOS would not accept 10.2 Gig. I called the manufacturer's tech support, and explained I needed a @ Gig slice for Windows, and the rest for FreeBSD. "For what?" Unix, you know, FreeBSD. "Oh, no problem, you need Ontrack Disk Manager. That will let you do that. Download it from our web site." I did as advised. It turned out Disk Manager is a brain dead piece of software. It partitioned the disk into 5 2 Gig partitions, and OVEROTE my MBR!!! Form then on, I was unable to log back on to my small FreeBSD system. So, I uninstalled Disk Manager and deleted all partitions but the first one. No good. My MBR was still coming up with Disk Manager! I logged onto FreeBSD.org and read the section on how to restore my MBR. The software said it restored my MBR successfully. Rejoiced, I rebooted, just to get the Disk Manager again. I finally decided to say good bye to everything I had on my FreeBSD and to install version 3.1 from scratch. This morning, I started the ftp download. Nine hours later, I was disconnected from my ISP (it has happened before, and they always blamed it on me, so I did not even bother calling them). The install program happily continued with the system setup. adding users, configuring fonts, etc. Then I rebooted. Got as far as "boot:". From then on, no matter what I typed in (such as wd1, wd1s2a, or just plain enter), the "boot:" thing just kept coming. I got this wonderful hard disk, I got the most powerful OS in the world on it, but I cannot use it. Any suggestions??? Adam --- Want to design your own web counter? Get GCL 2.10 from http://www.whizkidtech.net/gcl/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 12 17:30:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6667114D5A for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 17:30:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) id MAA08966 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 12:30:15 +1100 (EST) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 12:30:15 +1100 (EST) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <199903130130.MAA08966@phoenix.welearn.com.au> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (Last updated 30 August 1998) (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources:charters.html) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 12 19:26:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net (ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net [198.36.160.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DE98114C83 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 19:25:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dpilgrim@uswest.net) Received: (qmail 20911 invoked by alias); 13 Mar 1999 03:25:37 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG@fixme Received: (qmail 20895 invoked by uid 0); 13 Mar 1999 03:25:37 -0000 Received: from bdsl224.ptld.uswest.net (HELO uswest.net) (209.180.169.224) by ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 1999 03:25:37 -0000 Message-ID: <36E9DAB0.94B62DE8@uswest.net> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 19:25:36 -0800 From: Nocturne Organization: Neatly stacked heaps of digital chaos X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: root@isis.dynip.com, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Safety measure [Was: Re: Ports?] References: <199903122126.AAA86909@isis.dynip.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [Note: This is extremely valuable information to anyone running their own unix box. It may save your life one day.] I'm not sure if root@isis.dynip.com really is the superuser account, but it's not a good idea to use the root account unless you have to. Root can delete every single file on your system with a single command and do it before you even know it. I recommend creating a normal user account for yourself and use that most of the time, using root only when the task at hand requires the superuser privileges. -- dpilgrim@uswest.net ICQ: 29880099 gryph@mindless.com PGP DH/DSS key available If you're gonna build a house of cards, use the plastic coated kind Cuz I'll bet the homeowner's insurance won't cover flood damage To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 12 21:37:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (ha1.rdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.0.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD2BA14D69 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 21:37:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from charon@freethought.org) Received: from c40948-a ([24.1.7.99]) by mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail v4.00.03 201-229-104) with SMTP id <19990313053710.BAOE22357.mail.rdc1.sfba.home.com@c40948-a>; Fri, 12 Mar 1999 21:37:10 -0800 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990312213647.00a57400@mail> X-Sender: tuathadedanann@mail X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 21:36:47 -0800 To: Nocturne , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: charon@freethought.org Subject: Re: Safety measure [Was: Re: Ports?] In-Reply-To: <36E9DAB0.94B62DE8@uswest.net> References: <199903122126.AAA86909@isis.dynip.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 07:25 PM 3/12/99 -0800, Nocturne wrote: >Root can delete every single file on your system with a single command >and do it before you even know it. Good point... I once did that to the /usr directory... back when I had very little idea about what this whole UNIX thing was... not a good idea! :) >I recommend creating a normal user account for yourself and use that >most of the time, using root only when the task at hand requires the >superuser privileges. And you can create a user account who's in group 'wheel,' and thus can su root if they need superuser privledges, but do most work in normal mode. Charon@freethought.org http://members.home.net/tuathadedanann/ "There's no point in driving yourself mad trying to stop yourself going mad. You might just as well give in and save your sanity for later." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Mar 13 13: 0:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from dsinw.com (dsinw.com [207.149.40.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9B0214E52 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 13:00:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hamellr@dsinw.com) Received: from bb-b1-11a (ppp70.pm3-0.pdx.dsinw.com [207.149.41.70]) by dsinw.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA16590; Sat, 13 Mar 1999 12:58:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 12:59:31 -0800 () From: Rick Hamell To: "G. Adam Stanislav" Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Horror story In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990313082158.008eaa20@mail.bfm.org> Message-ID: X-X-Sender: hamellr@dsinw.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I posted it here and not in questions because whenever I have posted a > problem in questions, my mail box was swamped by multitude of rude > messages, essentially telling me that if I am stupid I should not run Unix. On the same note; there's a reason why he forwarded it to -questions. -newbies is meant to be a place for newbies to find out where to get help from. It is also a place for us to communicate away from the 'you're stupid chatter.' Admittedly there is tons of it on -questions, usually because nobody takes the time to search the mailing lists. 30 seconds of searching would have uncovered you answer, multiple times...:) Honestly, your question is beyond even me, simply because I no longer use IDE drives in any of my computers! :) If I ever have to install FreeBSD on a multi-gig IDE drive, I'll be sure to check out the mailing list archives myself. Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message