From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 22 0:36:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from sentry.granch.ru (sentry.granch.ru [212.20.5.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17AB214D26 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 00:36:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shelton@sentry.granch.ru) Received: from localhost (localhost.granch.ru [127.0.0.1]) by sentry.granch.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA37233 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 14:33:54 +0700 (NOVST) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 14:33:53 +0700 (NOVST) From: "Rashid N. Achilov" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Netscape for 3.2? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I install FreeBSD-3.2 instead 2.2.8. All is ok, but Netscape 4.61 does not work,says "Cannot find shared library libXt.so.6.0" or like that...What can I do for convince Netscape to run? With Best Regards. Rashid N. Achilov (RNA1-RIPE), Cert. ID: 28514, Granch Ltd. lead engineer e-mail: achilov@granch.ru, tel (383-2) 24-2363 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 22 5:54:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from f1node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.18.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F08D214CD5 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 05:54:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Received: from max.alleswirdgelber (uzs106@ascend-tk-p253.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.253]) by f1node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA137044 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 14:52:23 +0200 Received: from localhost (uzs106@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by max.alleswirdgelber (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA00291 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 11:52:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 11:52:36 +0200 (CEST) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-Sender: uzs106@localhost.rhrz.uni-bonn.de To: "newbies........" Subject: Re: X-windows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, whats the problem ? X, x, x...... I wanted to install W 98 and moved everything into a directory "x", that was all..... Offtopic ? Its hard to make a difference between "newbies" and "questions", as the repeated mails from Sue show. Heiko PS.: I think I have no "mount_vfat" on my system. On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Marty Poulin wrote: > > Am I the only one having trouble following this? > > On Wed, 18 Aug 1999, Heiko Recktenwald wrote: > > > On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, mlduke wrote: > > > > > X for short. > > > > Got a pentium, wanted install windows, had bootinst etc on the dos > > partition and a unixpartition and cd /dos and mkdir x, mv * x. > > > > Every computer should have an unixpartition. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 22 6:48:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web120.yahoomail.com (web120.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.121]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8453F14E4B for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 06:48:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon_v_mendoza@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19990822134813.12213.rocketmail@web120.yahoomail.com> Received: from [200.44.8.227] by web120.yahoomail.com; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 06:48:13 PDT Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 06:48:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Simon Mendoza Subject: Re: Netscape (and others) To: Doug Young , FreeBSD Mailing List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Here is a url that can give you some basic info about lynx http://mdc.net/~ellen/lynx.htm greetings Simon. --- Doug Young wrote: > I must be missing something that everyone else > believes is so trivial its > not worth even mentioning, best way I can explain > the situation is compare > to Win98 situation. If one installs MSIE or Netscape > or Opera etc on an > Win98 box, its essential to tell the thing about > homepage, http proxy etc > ....... I can't find one word anyplace about that > sort of thing in relation > to lynx, which I figure is a good reason why I've > never been able to get > lynx to give any signs of working ...... I'd > appreciate any "config" files > people can provide, but stuff think there should be > some basic setup info > someplace > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 22 7: 9:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail6.globalserve.net (mail6.globalserve.net [209.90.128.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C7BE14EA5 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 07:09:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lalala@globalserve.net) Received: from globalserve.net (dialin79.montreal.globalserve.net [209.167.12.79]) by mail6.globalserve.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11265 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 10:17:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37C0030B.EFBE8AC8@globalserve.net> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 10:02:51 -0400 From: Marty C X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Netscape for 3.2? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Install the compat2.2 package and BSD netscape 4.61 (NS for BSD is an a.out not an ELF), or the Linux compatibility package and netscape 4.61 for Linux.... "Rashid N. Achilov" wrote: > > I install FreeBSD-3.2 instead 2.2.8. All is ok, but Netscape 4.61 does not > work,says "Cannot find shared library libXt.so.6.0" or like that...What > can I do for convince Netscape to run? > > With Best Regards. > Rashid N. Achilov (RNA1-RIPE), Cert. ID: 28514, Granch Ltd. lead engineer > e-mail: achilov@granch.ru, tel (383-2) 24-2363 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- ======================================= | from Martin, lalala@globalserve.net | | -Destroyer of Hard Drives | | -Mangler of partition tables | | -Data's worst nightmare | ======================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 22 17:59:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E3515416 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 17:59:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tywe@worldnet.att.net) Received: from main ([12.77.217.150]) by mtiwmhc04.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.07.07 118-134) with SMTP id <19990823005805.GQNA15925@main> for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 00:58:05 +0000 Message-ID: <00bb01beec39$cdf30760$96d94d0c@main> From: "Shawn M" To: Subject: share Internet to win9x over LAN Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 21:01:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B8_01BEEC18.459ADDA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01BEEC18.459ADDA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I hope I am posting in the right area, if not let me know. I am new = to freebsd, so this should be the right place. I just need someone to = point me in the right direction here. I am pretty confused by all the = online doc's I've looked at over the last couple days, and I've been = watching a few of the mailing lists for a few days now without much luck = on my problem. Alls I want to do is set up my freebsd box to act as a = internet gateway for a win9x box connected via ethernet. I already = configured the ethernet cards on both machines, but thats it. So, when I = do a netstat -r on the freebsd box, I can't see anything about the = ethernet card. But, I see it getting configured in the dmesg as pn0 = (like the driver docs said to do), and when I do a netstat -i, the pn0* = interface is the first on the list. I know how to set up the win9x box = to use the server when it works, so i mainly just need help finding docs = on how to do it. I'm not even sure what I'm supposed to be setting up. = ipfw? natd? samba? Thanks for any help you can offer me here. Shawn ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01BEEC18.459ADDA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi, I hope I am posting in the right area, if not = let me know.=20 I am new to freebsd, so this should be the right place. I just need = someone to=20 point me in the right direction here. I am pretty confused by all the = online=20 doc's I've looked at over the last couple days, and I've been watching a = few of=20 the mailing lists for a few days now without much luck on my problem. = Alls I=20 want to do is set up my freebsd box to act as a internet gateway for a = win9x box=20 connected via ethernet. I already configured the ethernet cards on both=20 machines, but thats it. So, when I do a netstat -r on the freebsd box, I = can't=20 see anything about the ethernet card. But, I see it getting configured = in the=20 dmesg as pn0 (like the driver docs said to do), and when I do a netstat = -i, the=20 pn0* interface is the first on the list. I know how to set up the win9x = box to=20 use the server when it works, so i mainly just need help finding docs on = how to=20 do it. I'm not even sure what I'm supposed to be setting up. ipfw? natd? = samba?=20 Thanks for any help you can offer me here.
 
Shawn
 
------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01BEEC18.459ADDA0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Aug 23 0:59: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from enterprise.powerup.com.au (enterprise.powerup.com.au [203.32.8.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3149315653 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 00:58:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wyldephyre@telebot.net) Received: (qmail 19796 invoked from network); 23 Aug 1999 07:57:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO timberwolf) (203.147.249.155) by enterprise.powerup.com.au with SMTP; 23 Aug 1999 07:57:07 -0000 Message-ID: <004301beed3e$a06ce940$9bf993cb@timberwolf> Reply-To: "Haikal Saadh" From: "Haikal Saadh" To: Subject: CD-ROM woes. Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:08:02 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all.... I installed FreeBSD about 5 months ago, from a DOS partition. That's right. I d/l'ed 300 megabytes on a 56K connection, lost a lot of hair, gnashed my teeth, and managed to get FreeBSD running. Fine...untill I realized something...I didn't have any packages, and my DOS partition was full. *Fast forward to last week* I got 'The Complete FreeBSD' in the mail and proceeded to pop the disc in to install my much needed software...except...FreeBSD did not detect my CD-ROM drive... Now, I've tried a number of things, but by looking at the bootup messages, it appears that FreeBSD does not detect my secondary IDE controller. I've tried setting UserConfig to probe for it (wdc1), but it does not work. I've got a ABIT BH6 board, with an LG 32X CDROM. Any Ideas why? I can access my CDROM in windows.... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -=-= Many an ancient lord's last words had been, "You can't kill me because I've got magic aaargh." -- Magic armour is not all it's cracked up to be. (Terry Pratchett, Interesting Times) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Aug 23 4:19: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from bologna.nettuno.it (bologna.nettuno.it [193.43.2.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04CD11560A for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 04:19:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bigio@server1.comune.jesi.ancona.it) Received: from plutone (gcw02.jesi.nettuno.it [193.207.7.243]) by bologna.nettuno.it (8.9.3/8.9.3/NETTuno 3.3) with SMTP id NAA26865 for ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:17:21 +0200 (MDT) From: Giovanni Reply-To: bigio@comune.jesi.ancona.it To: "Haikal Saadh" Subject: Re: CD-ROM woes. Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:11:17 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain References: <004301beed3e$a06ce940$9bf993cb@timberwolf> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99082313144500.00516@plutone> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Now, I've tried a number of things, but by looking at the bootup messag= es, > it appears that FreeBSD does not detect my secondary IDE controller. I'= ve > tried setting UserConfig to probe for it (wdc1), but it does not work. >=20 If the CD-Rom is on the secondary controller, is configured as slave and there's no device set as master , FreeBSD can' t detect it. You have to set the CD-Rom as secondary master. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 24 0: 7:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f123.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D8B8B155BB for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 00:07:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dunaedain@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 58377 invoked by uid 0); 24 Aug 1999 07:05:40 -0000 Message-ID: <19990824070540.58376.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 203.23.90.232 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 00:05:40 PDT X-Originating-IP: [203.23.90.232] From: "lachlan kanaley" To: FreeBSD-Newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Instalation Problems Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:05:40 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hello im trying to install FBSD, and am repeatedly getting this error message during the install process: error mounting /mnt/dev/wd0s1e on /mnt/usr : Invalid Arguement and then the instalation doesnt work properly. can anyone help thanks lachlan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 24 0:54:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from enterprise.powerup.com.au (enterprise.powerup.com.au [203.32.8.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5923914E1E for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 00:54:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wyldephyre@telebot.net) Received: (qmail 4856 invoked from network); 24 Aug 1999 07:53:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO timberwolf) (203.147.249.228) by enterprise.powerup.com.au with SMTP; 24 Aug 1999 07:53:14 -0000 Message-ID: <000101beee07$41bade60$e4f993cb@timberwolf> Reply-To: "Haikal Saadh" From: "Haikal Saadh" To: "Thomas Uhrfelt" Cc: Subject: Re: CD-ROM woes. Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:41:45 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes, It worked after I moved my CDROM to be the secondary slave, and having a play around with my BIOS. Thanks a lot! Hopefully I shall have FreeBSD up and running within a week or so. >This can cause some wonders as the ATAPI specs only specify CDroms as >secondary slave when on their own channel. Most drives work anyway and most >OSes too, but FreeBSD is a server OS and goes pretty much strictly after the >book. 1st try to move it too the secondary slave, and if that not works.. >move it to the primary slave. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 24 9:19: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web121.yahoomail.com (web121.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 89A7C15964 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:18:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon_v_mendoza@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19990824143153.8328.rocketmail@web121.yahoomail.com> Received: from [128.58.111.30] by web121.yahoomail.com; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:31:53 PDT Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:31:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Simon Mendoza Subject: Re: Instalation Problems To: lachlan kanaley , FreeBSD Mailing List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Lachlan: Personally I think something is happening with your hard drive, but if you really want to find out what is going on here is what you have to do: 1. Check on the mailing list archives at www.freebsd.org under questions to see if someone has already have this inconvienience and has succesfully worked it out. 2. If in the mailing list (take the search option and make sure you select the questions mailing list) you don't find anything then post your question (just re-send this to questions to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org). The thing is Lachlan that your question should be answered on the proper mailing list by someone not "newbie" so you can take advantage and really have a learning experience with different views about solving the problem. Some of us here (not newbies) will gladly help you out "there". Greetings Simon. --- lachlan kanaley wrote: > hello > > im trying to install FBSD, and am repeatedly getting > this error message > during the install process: > > error mounting /mnt/dev/wd0s1e on /mnt/usr : Invalid > Arguement > > and then the instalation doesnt work properly. > > can anyone help > thanks > lachlan > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at > http://www.hotmail.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of > the message > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 24 11:44:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E5D159CA; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:42:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA25944; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:26:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA73072; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:06:34 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:06:34 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Jonathan Kopka Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Thanks for the FAQ Message-ID: <19990824170634.G65430@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <000201bee9c0$7975aba0$c323f7a5@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <000201bee9c0$7975aba0$c323f7a5@default>; from Jonathan Kopka on Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 05:26:52PM -0400 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jonathan, On Wed, Aug 18, 1999 at 05:26:52PM -0400, Jonathan Kopka wrote: > I wasn't sure who to write to to thank > for the information regarding using the > boot -v option and the BIOS cylinder > translation info along with the slice -> > fdisk -> "g" option. (FAQ sections 2.15 and > 8.10) Many thanks to the FreeBSD team > for that information, installed 3.2-RELEASE > today (got it right the second time around with > the "g" option). Since no one else has replied to this yet, I'd just like to say thanks, on behalf of the FreeBSD Documentation Project and the translation projects) for your comments. It's always nice to know that other people are using and profiting from the work and effort that's been put in to the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Cheers, Nik -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 24 14:37:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from owl.INS.CWRU.Edu (owl.INS.CWRU.Edu [129.22.8.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50B2614F7D for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:37:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ba793@owl.INS.CWRU.Edu) Received: (ba793@localhost) by owl.INS.CWRU.Edu (8.8.6+cwru/CWRU-2.5-bsdi) id RAA14417; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:35:12 -0400 (EDT) (from ba793) Message-Id: <199908242135.RAA14417@owl.INS.CWRU.Edu> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:35:12 -0400 (EDT) From: ba793@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Hamid Dastkar) To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Internet host count numbers (FYI) Reply-To: ba793@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Hamid Dastkar) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey newbies and oldies :-) Here is a bit of news on the number of hosts on Internet, just to get a feel. Some may already have seen this email. ciao, hamid -- >Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:32:41 -0700 (PDT) >From: April Marine >Subject: new host count numbers > > >Hi all, > >Here's a quick snapshop of the host count numbers from the latest >Network Wizards DNS survey. The Internet Software Consortium is >sponsoring this work now, so more summary data and info can be found >at http://www.isc.org/. > >regards, >April Marine > > > >Internet Domain Survey July 1999 > >Number of Hosts advertised in the DNS > > | Survey > Date | Host Count > ------+------------- > Jul 99| 56,218,000 > Jan 99| 43,230,000 > > Jul 98| 36,739,000 > Jan 98| 29,670,000 > > >Distribution by Top-Level Domain Name by Host Count > July 1999 (top 15 shown) > > Domain Hosts > > TOTAL 56218330 > > com 18773097 > net 12432542 > edu 5141774 > jp 2072529 > uk 1599497 > mil 1561756 > us 1555882 > de 1426928 > ca 1294447 > au 907637 > org 821933 > gov 683363 > fr 653686 > nl 637591 > fi 577029 > >------------------------------------------------------------------- >April Marine >Director of Support Services +1.650.779.6006 >Internet Engines Incorporated april_marine@iengines.net >Internet Software Consortium april_marine@isc.org > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 24 14:53: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from f1node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.18.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F074615215 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:52:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Received: from max.alleswirdgelber (uzs106@ascend-tk-p203.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.203]) by f1node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA39644 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 23:52:26 +0200 Received: (from uzs106@localhost) by max.alleswirdgelber (8.9.2/8.9.2) id TAA00589 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:34:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uzs106) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:34:35 +0200 (CEST) From: Heiko Recktenwald Message-Id: <199908241734.TAA00589@max.alleswirdgelber> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: PLIP with Win 98 SE ? Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I dont have a spare PCI Ethernetcard or spare ISA slots, it works well with two Max and Moritz boxes, see FAQ, is there any way to do it with Win 98 ?? I saw there is a "modem" called something like "Parallel connection", but it seems to support only something like interlink. And there is PLIP for DOS. Cslipper works nicenst in a Windows doswindow (not in all), the wenn known ..... so this might be possible. Has anybody ever succeeded in this ? Plip and Windows ? Heiko To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 24 14:53: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from f1node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.18.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E35F315202 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:52:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Received: from max.alleswirdgelber (uzs106@ascend-tk-p203.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.203]) by f1node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA39636 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 23:52:21 +0200 Received: (from uzs106@localhost) by max.alleswirdgelber (8.9.2/8.9.2) id TAA00603 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:45:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uzs106) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:45:19 +0200 (CEST) From: Heiko Recktenwald Message-Id: <199908241745.TAA00603@max.alleswirdgelber> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 24 14:53: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from f1node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.18.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29ADD1521D for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:52:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Received: from max.alleswirdgelber (uzs106@ascend-tk-p203.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.203]) by f1node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA29062 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 23:52:23 +0200 Received: (from uzs106@localhost) by max.alleswirdgelber (8.9.2/8.9.2) id TAA00596 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:37:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uzs106) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:37:38 +0200 (CEST) From: Heiko Recktenwald Message-Id: <199908241737.TAA00596@max.alleswirdgelber> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Where is the mailspool ? (Bodies..) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I tried to reedit this mail with "mail", with ee, as it is easily possible with leafnode news in /var/spool/news/out.going, but I cant find it... H. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 24 14:53:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from f1node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.18.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09F2C1521E for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:53:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Received: from max.alleswirdgelber (uzs106@ascend-tk-p203.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.203]) by f1node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA50920 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 23:52:28 +0200 Received: (from uzs106@localhost) by max.alleswirdgelber (8.9.2/8.9.2) id UAA00642 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:15:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uzs106) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:15:12 +0200 (CEST) From: Heiko Recktenwald Message-Id: <199908241815.UAA00642@max.alleswirdgelber> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Printing Mac Graphics via Ghostscript on an old Epson LQ 500 ? Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org maybe this is too much offtopic, but the reason for the problem is FBSD and maybe I am not the only one who has it, or a similar problem. I think I have a lpr client software, that runs on my Mac. Printing into postscript file should work, I once made some experiments with printing on Windows (and ghostript->acrobat reader). But I remember from Windows, that printing with ghostript olene didnt work, I had to convert the files also to *.pdf. There are a lot of infos in the handbook about printer filters. Maybe some- body has experiences with this (and ghostcript). Heiko To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 24 14:53:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from f1node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.18.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75C7715215 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:52:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Received: from max.alleswirdgelber (uzs106@ascend-tk-p203.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.203]) by f1node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA39642 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 23:52:25 +0200 Received: (from uzs106@localhost) by max.alleswirdgelber (8.9.2/8.9.2) id TAA00601 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:42:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uzs106) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:42:53 +0200 (CEST) From: Heiko Recktenwald Message-Id: <199908241742.TAA00601@max.alleswirdgelber> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Parallel Zip drive Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org There is something about this beast in LINT, but I cant make it work. How are the lines in MYKERNEL if you have allready a da0 device, must there be any da1 ?? And how are they, it you want it on a IDE system ? I think in the later case you must have some additional SCSI lines. And how can this be formatted, with /stand/sysinstall ?? Heiko To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 24 19:25: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from gateway.ciminot.com (gateway.ciminot.com [208.149.231.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D04B1150DD for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:25:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dave@ciminot.com) Received: from dave ([192.168.200.15]) by gateway.ciminot.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA16403; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:21:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dave@ciminot.com) From: "David B. Aas" To: "'Shawn M'" Cc: Subject: RE: share Internet to win9x over LAN Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:23:02 -0500 Message-ID: <001a01beeea0$c25ff840$0fc8a8c0@dave.ciminot.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01BEEE76.D989F040" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <00bb01beec39$cdf30760$96d94d0c@main> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01BEEE76.D989F040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Did you get a response to this message? My suggestion would be to purchase The Complete FreeBSD by Greg Lehey from Walnut Creek ( http://www.cdrom.com ). I was a newbie just like yourself not too long ago, and now I am still a newbie, but also answering questions on the newsgroup! This book will walk you through all the steps you need to take to do what you want to do. I have now set up 4 firewalls for clients, and I am supporting them. You may also want to look at some of the online resources at http://freebsd.org . These are good supplements to Greg's book, but the book is the best way to get started. Good luck! Dave Aas dave@ciminot.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Shawn M Sent: Saturday, August 21, 1999 8:01 PM To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: share Internet to win9x over LAN Hi, I hope I am posting in the right area, if not let me know. I am new to freebsd, so this should be the right place. I just need someone to point me in the right direction here. I am pretty confused by all the online doc's I've looked at over the last couple days, and I've been watching a few of the mailing lists for a few days now without much luck on my problem. Alls I want to do is set up my freebsd box to act as a internet gateway for a win9x box connected via ethernet. I already configured the ethernet cards on both machines, but thats it. So, when I do a netstat -r on the freebsd box, I can't see anything about the ethernet card. But, I see it getting configured in the dmesg as pn0 (like the driver docs said to do), and when I do a netstat -i, the pn0* interface is the first on the list. I know how to set up the win9x box to use the server when it works, so i mainly just need help finding docs on how to do it. I'm not even sure what I'm supposed to be setting up. ipfw? natd? samba? Thanks for any help you can offer me here. Shawn ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01BEEE76.D989F040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Did=20 you get a response to this message?
 
My=20 suggestion would be to purchase The Complete FreeBSD by Greg Lehey from = Walnut=20 Creek ( http://www.cdrom.com ). I = was a=20 newbie just like yourself not too long ago, and now I am still a newbie, = but=20 also answering questions on the newsgroup! This book will walk you = through all=20 the steps you need to take to do what you want to do. I have now set up = 4=20 firewalls for clients, and I am supporting them.
 
You=20 may also want to look at some of the online resources at http://freebsd.org . These are good = supplements to=20 Greg's book, but the book is the best way to get = started.
 
Good=20 luck!
 
Dave=20 Aas
dave@ciminot.com
=
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-freebsd-newbies@F= reeBSD.ORG=20 [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Shawn=20 M
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 1999 8:01 PM
To:=20 freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: share Internet to = win9x over=20 LAN

Hi, I hope I am posting in the right area, if = not let me=20 know. I am new to freebsd, so this should be the right place. I just = need=20 someone to point me in the right direction here. I am pretty = confused by all=20 the online doc's I've looked at over the last couple days, and I've = been=20 watching a few of the mailing lists for a few days now without much = luck on=20 my problem. Alls I want to do is set up my freebsd box to act as a = internet=20 gateway for a win9x box connected via ethernet. I already configured = the=20 ethernet cards on both machines, but thats it. So, when I do a = netstat -r on=20 the freebsd box, I can't see anything about the ethernet card. But, = I see it=20 getting configured in the dmesg as pn0 (like the driver docs said to = do),=20 and when I do a netstat -i, the pn0* interface is the first on the = list. I=20 know how to set up the win9x box to use the server when it works, so = i=20 mainly just need help finding docs on how to do it. I'm not even = sure what=20 I'm supposed to be setting up. ipfw? natd? samba? Thanks for any = help you=20 can offer me here.
 
Shawn
 
------=_NextPart_000_001B_01BEEE76.D989F040-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 24 21: 6: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from exegrnnts001.seattleu.edu (exegrnnts001.seattleu.edu [206.81.198.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA4C14FF5 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:06:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hodeleri@seattleu.edu) Received: from seattleu.edu (ppp23.pm2a.wport.com [206.129.99.72]) by exegrnnts001.seattleu.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id RKP9DB7M; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:04:06 -0700 Message-ID: <37C36B66.EE994B83@seattleu.edu> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:04:54 -0700 From: Eric Hodel Organization: Dis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Heiko Recktenwald Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PLIP with Win 98 SE ? References: <199908241734.TAA00589@max.alleswirdgelber> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Heiko Recktenwald wrote: > > I dont have a spare PCI Ethernetcard or spare ISA slots, it works well with > two Max and Moritz boxes, see FAQ, is there any way to do it with Win 98 ?? > > I saw there is a "modem" called something like "Parallel connection", but it > seems to support only something like interlink. And there is PLIP for DOS. > Cslipper works nicenst in a Windows doswindow (not in all), the wenn known > ..... > > so this might be possible. Has anybody ever succeeded in this ? Plip and Windows ? Why not just buy an external modem? Just plug into your serial port. (COM1/2...) -- Eric Hodel - hodeleri@seattleu.edu - Aspiring programmer & FPS minor demi-god. Customers will come to our 'home page' in unbelievable numbers and find out everything we want them to know. --Bill Gates To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Aug 25 0:50:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mout1.01019freenet.de (mout1.01019freenet.de [62.104.201.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC34415232 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 00:50:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pu.kruppa@01019freenet.de) Received: from [62.104.201.6] (helo=mx0.01019freenet.de) by mout1.01019freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11JXoO-0001dM-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:49:36 +0200 Received: from [212.81.155.25] (helo=pu.kruppa) by mx0.01019freenet.de with smtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11JXoN-0007zh-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:49:36 +0200 Message-ID: <000801beeece$3e0bffc0$199b51d4@kruppa> From: "Peter Ulrich Kruppa" To: Subject: Install Error: MAKEDEV returned non-zero status Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:47:34 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEEEDE.DBC4A2C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEEEDE.DBC4A2C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, my machine is an amd5x86 with 32MB RAM and 1,2 GB Harddisk. I produced a = 300MB partition for freebsd release 3.2 [ftp download]. a) When I try to install the stuff I end up with MAKEDEV returned non-zero status What can one do? b) While installing bin dist one can watch somehundredthousands bytes of = junk beeing skipped on virtual terminal 2. Does that matter? c) I have got about 200MB for my /usr partition. Installing ports dist = ends up in /mnt/usr: create/symlink failed, no inodes free d) Trying to do something on virtual terminal 4 often ends up in a segmentation fault In case all this cannot be fixed by one simple trick , I would be happy, = if Iknew a nice book, manual, online-doc or something like that, where I = could find out myself. Which reminds me of e) of course=20 man does not work [-> d)]. Thanx a lot. Uli. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEEEDE.DBC4A2C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
my machine is an amd5x86 with 32MB RAM = and 1,2 GB=20 Harddisk. I produced a 300MB partition for freebsd release 3.2 [ftp=20 download].
 
a) When I try to install the stuff = I end up=20 with
 

MAKEDEV returned non-zero = status

What can one do?

b) While installing bin dist one can = watch=20 somehundredthousands bytes of junk beeing skipped on virtual = terminal=20 2.

Does that matter?

c) I have got about 200MB for my /usr = partition.=20 Installing ports dist ends up in

/mnt/usr: create/symlink failed, no = inodes=20 free

d) Trying to do something on virtual = terminal 4=20 often ends up in a

segmentation fault

In case all this cannot be fixed by one = simple=20 trick , I would be happy, if Iknew a nice book, manual, = online-doc or=20 something like that, where I could find out myself. Which reminds me=20 of

e) of course

man <xxx>

does not work [-> d)].

Thanx a lot.=20 Uli.

------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BEEEDE.DBC4A2C0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Aug 25 3:23:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mout1.01019freenet.de (mout1.01019freenet.de [62.104.201.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FD9114EEB for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 03:23:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pu.kruppa@01019freenet.de) Received: from [62.104.201.6] (helo=mx0.01019freenet.de) by mout1.01019freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11JaCf-0006nV-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:22:49 +0200 Received: from [212.81.225.5] (helo=pu.kruppa) by mx0.01019freenet.de with smtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11JaCe-00033m-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:22:49 +0200 Message-ID: <000501beeee3$a75c8d40$05e151d4@kruppa> From: "Peter Ulrich Kruppa" To: Subject: Install error: Makedev returned non-zero status Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:28:55 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01BEEEE4.A2309680" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01BEEEE4.A2309680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, my machine is an amd5x86 with 32MB RAM and 1,2 GB Harddisk. I produced a = 300MB partition for freebsd release 3.2 [ftp download]. a) When I try to install the stuff I end up with MAKEDEV returned non-zero status What can one do? b) While installing bin dist one can watch somehundredthousands bytes of = junk beeing skipped on virtual terminal 2. Does that matter? c) I have got about 200MB for my /usr partition. Installing ports dist = ends up in /mnt/usr: create/symlink failed, no inodes free d) Trying to do something on virtual terminal 4 often ends up in a segmentation fault In case all this cannot be fixed by one simple trick , I would be happy, = if Iknew a nice book, manual, online-doc or something like that, where I = could find out myself. Which reminds me of e) of course=20 man does not work [-> d)]. Thanx a lot. Uli. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01BEEEE4.A2309680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
my machine is an amd5x86 with 32MB RAM = and 1,2 GB=20 Harddisk. I produced a 300MB partition for freebsd release 3.2 [ftp=20 download].
 
a) When I try to install the stuff = I end up=20 with
 

MAKEDEV returned non-zero = status

What can one do?

b) While installing bin dist one can = watch=20 somehundredthousands bytes of junk beeing skipped on virtual = terminal=20 2.

Does that matter?

c) I have got about 200MB for my /usr = partition.=20 Installing ports dist ends up in

/mnt/usr: create/symlink failed, no = inodes=20 free

d) Trying to do something on virtual = terminal 4=20 often ends up in a

segmentation fault

In case all this cannot be fixed by one = simple=20 trick , I would be happy, if Iknew a nice book, manual, = online-doc or=20 something like that, where I could find out myself. Which reminds me=20 of

e) of course

man <xxx>

does not work [-> d)].

Thanx a lot.=20 Uli.

------=_NextPart_000_0013_01BEEEE4.A2309680-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Aug 25 4: 6:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from goblin.apana.org.au (goblin.apana.org.au [203.3.126.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B009415227 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 04:06:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from young@richardson.apana.org.au) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by goblin.apana.org.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA01084 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:21:50 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from young@richardson.apana.org.au) Received: from richardson.apana.org.au(203.3.126.216) via SMTP by goblin.apana.org.au, id smtpdpy1078; Wed Aug 25 21:21:44 1999 Received: from jdy [203.3.126.129] by richardson.apana.org.au [203.3.126.216] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP4.T) for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:37:33 +1000 Message-ID: <015a01beeea3$5a913be0$857e03cb@jdy> From: "Young" To: Subject: BSDIP Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:41:35 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Return-Path: young@richardson.apana.org.au Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In the packages selection (at least on my CD) there is a mention of something called 'BSDIP" , which appears to be some sort of utility to setup PPP. ..... something that has always given me the heeby jeebies. After install completed, I tried to find anything called BSDIP also searched mailing lists, internet, etc with no luck Does anyone know anything about this / what is it / what it does etc ?? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Aug 25 4: 6:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from goblin.apana.org.au (goblin.apana.org.au [203.3.126.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FE8415099 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 04:06:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from young@richardson.apana.org.au) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by goblin.apana.org.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA01082 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:21:50 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from young@richardson.apana.org.au) Received: from richardson.apana.org.au(203.3.126.216) via SMTP by goblin.apana.org.au, id smtpdwm1077; Wed Aug 25 21:21:41 1999 Received: from jdy [203.3.126.129] by richardson.apana.org.au [203.3.126.216] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP4.T) for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:22:45 +1000 Message-ID: <00c601beeea1$486868a0$857e03cb@jdy> From: "Young" To: Subject: Where to get assistance ?? Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:26:46 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Return-Path: young@richardson.apana.org.au Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm not sure if this is the correct place to post this stuff or not, but already tried in the questions list and haven't been able to get the answers I need there. I appreciate the attempts a few people have made, but most of the people who have tried to help have been way over my head and only confuse me further than I already am. If anyone can suggest a more suitable place to post stuff like this so I can get to the bottom of my setup problems I'd appreciate the feedback I guess this stuff is considered so trivial by many of the experts that they consider questions like these ones aren't even worth answering, but its sure giving me nightmares I have been working on the assumption that the problems are purely routing table related, but now believe the root of the problems is far more basic than that ..... as I understand it, normally a standalone internet connected machine doesn't need any sort of routing table in order to get ping, traceroute, http, ftp, irc, mail, news ICQ and whatever else working properly ..... so since none of those work it seems the problem is related to something in PPP rather than routing I've been trying unsuccessfully for days now to get a gateway/router box working. I'd like to be able to (eventually) get http, ftp, mail, news, irc, and hopefully ICQ access to the internet from boxes on the LAN running whatever operating system. I've read (but not understood much of) the Pedantic PPP Primer, the PPP MAN, the PPP FAQ, the BSD Habndbook & the latest O'Reilly "Network Administrators Guide", but I'm not getting anywhere fast I have a 8 IP addresses from 203.3.126.128 - 135, subnet 255.255.255.248 My "resolv.conf" file lists both nameservers domain.apana.org.au nameserver 203.3.126.1 nameserver 203.3.126.3 My "Routing Table" default 203.3.126.128 UGSc 0 0 fxp0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 6 lo0 203.3.126.128 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff: UHLWb 1 0 fxp0 => 203.3.126.128/29 link#1 UC 0 1 fxp0 203.3.126.129 203.3.126.130 UGHS 1 10710 fxp0 203.3.126.130 0:a0:c9:21:12:48: UHLW 1 10724 lo0 Due to my lack of experience, simplicity of configuration is ESSENTIAL, so its probably best to avoid potentially tricky stuff like masquerading or the like. The phone system in Australia is a bit unusual, we get untimed local calls, but pay up to 25c for each local one ..... consequently its desirable for those who have a permanent dialup connection to keep it up permanently. Dial on demand is NOT a good thing here like it is in US with "free" local phone calls. Cable connections are virtually unknown in private homes here, due to the pricing policy of the dominant carrier. 203.3.126.129 is used for dialup modem interface, and 203.3.126.130 for the NIC in the local gateway box At the server end, there are two DNS boxes, 203.3.126.1 & 203.3.126.3, and a http proxy at 203.3.126.3 port 3128 I believe the correct IP address for remote gateway is 203.3.126.1 Neither PAP or CHAP are used, only the prompts for login & password, although dialling can be automated in Win9x with a script. I can dial up manually, using "ppp", "term", ATDT, but can't understand how to even begin preparing a chat script, so any sort of automatic dialling is out of the question for the immediate future. I have a local hosts file setup on the gateway box, and can successfully ping other boxes on the LAN by either name or IP address. Initially I could not get a response from the local gateway box modem interface (203.3.126.129), so I put a line in /etc/rc.conf "route add 203.3.126.128 203.3.126.130" and now can get a response, although its rather weird 36 bytes from oracle.apana.org.au (203.3.126.130): Time to live exceeded .... then a couple lines of other strange stuff. Maybe this is just due to the fact that both the 203.3.126.129 & 203.3.126.130 interfaces are in the same box or something Once connected I can ping the first of the two DNS numbers (and get a response) but can't get a response from any other site. Tried traceroute to known domains and (and numerical addresses) but the only two that respond are bryden.apana.org.au / 203.3.126.129 (the local PPP interface) & gargoyle.apana.org.au / 203.3.126.1 (the remote PPP interface) I've tried starting lynx but only response I can get out of it is "startfile not found" regardless of what I try to make it do. One of many areas in which I'm a bit uncertain is the dialog box for ethernet configuration when installing FreeBSD. Among other things, it asks for details of local IP address, subnet mask, whether or not the box is a gateway, and something about address of remote gateway. I've always put the first of the two DNS numbers here as I have been led to believe thats the correct thing, although I've never had to enter that in any Windows box and I've setup hundreds of them. Given that my local ppp interface always uses the same number, should I use something other than 203.3.126.1 for that ? Another area of concern is the ppp.conf file ...... I'm 99% confused about most of it .... reading the PPP MAN only makes me more confused every time I read it. If anyone has a dialup internet account and the type of login that prompts for login & password, I'd really appreciate a copy of their ppp.conf file as it might be a lot more help than the documentation has been. A lesser (but still annoying problem) is some kind of timeout that disconnects the line, apparently due to no data moving. What do I need to do to keep the line up permanently even if nothing happens for hours. I might add here that I pay for a dedicated connection, its my line & my modem both ends, so its not as if I am "hogging" a common line. I've had a suggestion about using something called a "shell script' but I wouldn't recognize one of them even if one tripped over me :( ..... where does a newbie go to read about stuff like this in pre-school language ?? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Aug 25 7:12:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from bbnmg1.cns.hp.com (bbnmg1.net.external.hp.com [192.6.76.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C326714C8C for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:12:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from MICHAEL_HEITMEIER@HP-Germany-om12.om.hp.com) Received: from isoit644.bbn.hp.com (root@isoit644.bbn.hp.com [15.136.88.78]) by bbnmg1.cns.hp.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.5btis) with ESMTP id QAA18564; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:07:51 +0200 (METDST) From: MICHAEL_HEITMEIER@HP-Germany-om12.om.hp.com Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by isoit644.bbn.hp.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6 TIS Openmail) with SMTP id QAA10101; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:07:20 +0200 (METDST) X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:55:43 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: RE: Where to get assistance ?? MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, young@richardson.apana.org.au Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="BDY.TXT" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="BDY.TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I also had a hard time getting PPP up but, to be honest, only because I interpreted most of the documentation instead of simply following it. You really only need to understand very little about PPP to get it to work. Now I don't know about your phone system but you should start with the sample ppp.conf file that comes with FreeBSD. It talks about a lot of stuff but the first section is what you want, and anbody else's ppp.conf file may not be set up in the simplest way. Read it, read it again, compare all the entries to the ppp man page and it WILL make sense to you. In the end the only critical things are the phone number of your ISP and the modem chat string, the one in there should work without any modifications. You will also see that you add the default route in ppp.conf, not in rc.conf. What ppp does not know about of course is the setup and configuration of your machine. The setting for the gateway goes into rc.conf like this: default_gateway=[IP address of the gateway]. Read man rc.conf I would strongly recommend to leave the routing table alone. Any manual entries might not be correct and you should not need any in the first place. Your best option is probably to start with a clean rc.conf and most likely a ppp.conf file that you create by copying ppp.conf.sample to ppp.conf and then removing what you don't need. One danger is to read too much and be confused by the sometimes contradicting information: stick to man ppp and you cannot go wrong. Good luck! Michael -----Original Message----- From: young@richardson.apana.org.au [mailto:young@richardson.apana.org.au] Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 4:27 AM To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: young@richardson.apana.org.au Subject: Where to get assistance ?? I'm not sure if this is the correct place to post this stuff or not, but already tried in the questions list and haven't been able to get the answers I need there. I appreciate the attempts a few people have made, but most of the people who have tried to help have been way over my head and only confuse me further than I already am. If anyone can suggest a more suitable place to post stuff like this so I can get to the bottom of my setup problems I'd appreciate the feedback I guess this stuff is considered so trivial by many of the experts that they consider questions like these ones aren't even worth answering, but its sure giving me nightmares I have been working on the assumption that the problems are purely routing table related, but now believe the root of the problems is far more basic than that ..... as I understand it, normally a standalone internet connected machine doesn't need any sort of routing table in order to get ping, traceroute, http, ftp, irc, mail, news ICQ and whatever else working properly ..... so since none of those work it seems the problem is related to something in PPP rather than routing I've been trying unsuccessfully for days now to get a gateway/router box working. I'd like to be able to (eventually) get http, ftp, mail, news, irc, and hopefully ICQ access to the internet from boxes on the LAN running whatever operating system. I've read (but not understood much of) the Pedantic PPP Primer, the PPP MAN, the PPP FAQ, the BSD Habndbook & the latest O'Reilly "Network Administrators Guide", but I'm not getting anywhere fast I have a 8 IP addresses from 203.3.126.128 - 135, subnet 255.255.255.248 My "resolv.conf" file lists both nameservers domain.apana.org.au nameserver 203.3.126.1 nameserver 203.3.126.3 My "Routing Table" default 203.3.126.128 UGSc 0 0 fxp0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 6 lo0 203.3.126.128 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff: UHLWb 1 0 fxp0 => 203.3.126.128/29 link#1 UC 0 1 fxp0 203.3.126.129 203.3.126.130 UGHS 1 10710 fxp0 203.3.126.130 0:a0:c9:21:12:48: UHLW 1 10724 lo0 Due to my lack of experience, simplicity of configuration is ESSENTIAL, so its probably best to avoid potentially tricky stuff like masquerading or the like. The phone system in Australia is a bit unusual, we get untimed local calls, but pay up to 25c for each local one ..... consequently its desirable for those who have a permanent dialup connection to keep it up permanently. Dial on demand is NOT a good thing here like it is in US with "free" local phone calls. Cable connections are virtually unknown in private homes here, due to the pricing policy of the dominant carrier. 203.3.126.129 is used for dialup modem interface, and 203.3.126.130 for the NIC in the local gateway box At the server end, there are two DNS boxes, 203.3.126.1 & 203.3.126.3, and a http proxy at 203.3.126.3 port 3128 I believe the correct IP address for remote gateway is 203.3.126.1 Neither PAP or CHAP are used, only the prompts for login & password, although dialling can be automated in Win9x with a script. I can dial up manually, using "ppp", "term", ATDT, but can't understand how to even begin preparing a chat script, so any sort of automatic dialling is out of the question for the immediate future. I have a local hosts file setup on the gateway box, and can successfully ping other boxes on the LAN by either name or IP address. Initially I could not get a response from the local gateway box modem interface (203.3.126.129), so I put a line in /etc/rc.conf "route add 203.3.126.128 203.3.126.130" and now can get a response, although its rather weird 36 bytes from oracle.apana.org.au (203.3.126.130): Time to live exceeded .... then a couple lines of other strange stuff. Maybe this is just due to the fact that both the 203.3.126.129 & 203.3.126.130 interfaces are in the same box or something Once connected I can ping the first of the two DNS numbers (and get a response) but can't get a response from any other site. Tried traceroute to known domains and (and numerical addresses) but the only two that respond are bryden.apana.org.au / 203.3.126.129 (the local PPP interface) & gargoyle.apana.org.au / 203.3.126.1 (the remote PPP interface) I've tried starting lynx but only response I can get out of it is "startfile not found" regardless of what I try to make it do. One of many areas in which I'm a bit uncertain is the dialog box for ethernet configuration when installing FreeBSD. Among other things, it asks for details of local IP address, subnet mask, whether or not the box is a gateway, and something about address of remote gateway. I've always put the first of the two DNS numbers here as I have been led to believe thats the correct thing, although I've never had to enter that in any Windows box and I've setup hundreds of them. Given that my local ppp interface always uses the same number, should I use something other than 203.3.126.1 for that ? Another area of concern is the ppp.conf file ...... I'm 99% confused about most of it .... reading the PPP MAN only makes me more confused every time I read it. If anyone has a dialup internet account and the type of login that prompts for login & password, I'd really appreciate a copy of their ppp.conf file as it might be a lot more help than the documentation has been. A lesser (but still annoying problem) is some kind of timeout that disconnects the line, apparently due to no data moving. What do I need to do to keep the line up permanently even if nothing happens for hours. I might add here that I pay for a dedicated connection, its my line & my modem both ends, so its not as if I am "hogging" a common line. I've had a suggestion about using something called a "shell script' but I wouldn't recognize one of them even if one tripped over me :( ..... where does a newbie go to read about stuff like this in pre-school language ?? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Aug 25 7:38:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from duke.usask.ca (duke.usask.ca [128.233.3.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C876152C4 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:38:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nmm367@duke.usask.ca) Received: from localhost (nmm367@localhost) by duke.usask.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA13807 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 08:38:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 08:38:12 -0600 (CST) From: Naiden Markachev To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Old style C function declaration Q Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Everyone, I was reading some FreeBSD source code and I found some difficulties with the function declaration style. Could someone explain me what char **(*fn) __P((kvm_t *, const struct kinfo_proc *, int)); line in this function declaration exactly means: static char * fmt(fn, ki, comm, maxlen) char **(*fn) __P((kvm_t *, const struct kinfo_proc *, int)); KINFO *ki; char *comm; int maxlen; { [.. part of the ps command source ..] I am able to grasp the general idea but that doesn't satisfy me ;> Thanks for your time, Naiden To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Aug 25 11:44:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mcfeely.interaccess.com (mcfeely.interaccess.com [207.208.133.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43DF01500A for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:44:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nicholas.paredes@opmedia.com) Received: from opmedia.com (a107.66.70.207.ded11.interaccess.com [207.70.66.107]) by mcfeely.interaccess.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAA25443 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:42:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <37C44779.E851E262@opmedia.com> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:43:57 -0600 From: nicholas paredes Reply-To: nicholas.paredes@opmedia.com Organization: ovresat paredes X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: freebsd/nt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi; i have a design office that is primarily mac based, except for the cobalt (linux) web servers and file servers, and require the addition of an nt machine. i am considering a compaq alpha and would like the option of booting into either nt or freebsd, similar to linuxppc or osx server and the mac os. any information would be appreciated. thank you. -- nicholas paredes ovresat paredes 805 greenwood evanston, illinois 60201 telephone 847 570 9901 x17 facsimile 847 570 9903 email nicholas.paredes@opmedia.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Aug 25 13:53:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from satsuma.mail.easynet.net (satsuma.mail.easynet.net [195.40.1.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD3A114CFF for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:53:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from cream.org (boothman.easynet.co.uk [194.154.100.117]) by satsuma.mail.easynet.net with ESMTP id 683757B13B; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:52:27 +0100 (BST) Content-Length: 436 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) In-Reply-To: <199908241742.TAA00601@max.alleswirdgelber> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:48:12 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Boothman To: Heiko Recktenwald Subject: RE: Parallel Zip drive Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 24-Aug-99 Heiko Recktenwald wrote: > There is something about this beast in LINT, but I cant make it work. Adding a Parallel Port Zip Drive is covered in the FAQ. It is very important that you check the FAQ, Handbook and mailing list archives before sending messages to the lists. Many thanks! --- Andrew Boothman FreeBSD UK User Group http://ukug.uk.FreeBSD.org/~andrew/ http://ukug.uk.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Aug 25 14:18:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from owl.INS.CWRU.Edu (owl.INS.CWRU.Edu [129.22.8.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DF8314BF2 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:18:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ba793@owl.INS.CWRU.Edu) Received: (ba793@localhost) by owl.INS.CWRU.Edu (8.8.6+cwru/CWRU-2.5-bsdi) id RAA07819; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:15:40 -0400 (EDT) (from ba793) Message-Id: <199908252115.RAA07819@owl.INS.CWRU.Edu> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:15:40 -0400 (EDT) From: ba793@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Hamid Dastkar) To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: re: lynx browser Reply-To: ba793@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Hamid Dastkar) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org folks, there was a discussion about lynx (out of U. Kansas). i tought i give one possible useful reference (i think that is where it leads to the source): telnet lynx.cc.ukans.edu and the rest is self-explanatory. anyway i hope you will enjoy if it is not what you are looking for :-) ciao, hamid To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Aug 25 14:55:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3EF15371 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:55:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mlduke@concentric.net) Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff [206.173.118.90]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id RAA11977; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:46:26 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from ts001d13.mer-id.concentric.net (ts001d13.mer-id.concentric.net [206.173.184.25]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id RAA15213; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:48:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:55:00 -0600 (MDT) From: mlduke To: nicholas paredes Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd/nt In-Reply-To: <37C44779.E851E262@opmedia.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, nicholas paredes wrote: If NT acts pretty much as wincrash95, you can share the disk between FBSD and /dos, and install the boot manager on dos. Probably should install NT first, because NT will likely destroy the boot manager just like w95 will, though it's easy to reinstall. The handbook and "The Compllete BSD" by Greg Lehey explain all of this thoroughly. ML Duke > hi; > > i have a design office that is primarily mac based, except for the > cobalt (linux) web servers and file servers, and require the addition of > an nt machine. i am considering a compaq alpha and would like the option > of booting into either nt or freebsd, similar to linuxppc or osx server > and the mac os. any information would be appreciated. thank you. > > -- > nicholas paredes > > ovresat paredes > 805 greenwood > evanston, illinois 60201 > > telephone 847 570 9901 x17 > facsimile 847 570 9903 > email nicholas.paredes@opmedia.com > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Aug 25 14:57:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB35614DA1 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:57:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mlduke@concentric.net) Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman [207.155.198.71]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id RAA06052; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:57:19 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from ts001d13.mer-id.concentric.net (ts001d13.mer-id.concentric.net [206.173.184.25]) by newman.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id RAA11765; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:57:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:57:24 -0600 (MDT) From: mlduke To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Writable CD Rom's Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anyone know where the documentation might be to get the write function to work? ML Duke To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Aug 25 15:24:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from b.mx.crl.com (bmx.crl.com [165.113.1.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30BED150AD for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:24:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anarchy@crl.com) Received: from crl.crl.com (crl.com [165.113.1.12]) by b.mx.crl.com (8.8.7/) via SMTP id PAA23809; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:22:57 -0700 (PDT) env-from (anarchy@crl.com) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:22:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Ben Manes To: nicholas paredes Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd/nt In-Reply-To: <37C44779.E851E262@opmedia.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Are you sre you want NT on Alpha? Compaq and Microsoft have both dropped NT support, save old NT4 customers. The upgrade on NT you get is another service pack, which just fixes (and as usual, creates) bugs. You should probably keep NT on x86 (PowerPC support was dropped too), and the rest Mac/Unix if possible. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Aug 25 21: 9: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mission.mvnc.edu (mission.mvnc.edu [149.143.2.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D79EB159D7 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:08:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kdrobnac@mission.mvnc.edu) Received: from localhost (kdrobnac@localhost) by mission.mvnc.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id AAA05205; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 00:05:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 00:05:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenny Drobnack To: mlduke Cc: nicholas paredes , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd/nt In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am running a dual boot FreeBSD/NT box. I don't actually use the NT very much. Its much more stable than Win95/98. 95/98 crash about once a day, NT about once in 3 days. I think in the nearly 1 month since I first put FreeBSD on my system, its only had problems once. And it didn't really crash. There was just a rampant process dumping so much stuff to the screen I had to do a "kill -9" on the process. THUMP! Anyway, as far as I know, FreeBSD doesn't run on Alpha (yet) but NetBSD definitely does and OpenBSD I am not sure about, but I'm thinking it does. Yes, definitely install NT FIRST! NT puts its own boot loader on it and writes a "signature file" out to the disk so the disk administrator can access it. Unfortunately, one time this killed the first partition on that hard drive (bye bye to the first couple sectors of it). Recommended: fdisk, wipe out all partitions and the boot sector. Install NT. Pop in a second hard drive, install whatever BSD system you end up with (FreeBSD on Intel, or NetBSD on Alpha, seem like the best choices) on the second drive. > If NT acts pretty much as wincrash95, you can share the disk between > FBSD and /dos, and install the boot manager on dos. Probably should > install NT first, because NT will likely destroy the boot manager > just like w95 will, though it's easy to reinstall. > > The handbook and "The Compllete BSD" by Greg Lehey explain all of > this thoroughly. > > ML Duke > > > hi; > > > > i have a design office that is primarily mac based, except for the > > cobalt (linux) web servers and file servers, and require the addition of > > an nt machine. i am considering a compaq alpha and would like the option > > of booting into either nt or freebsd, similar to linuxppc or osx server > > and the mac os. any information would be appreciated. thank you. > > > > -- > > nicholas paredes > > > > ovresat paredes > > 805 greenwood > > evanston, illinois 60201 > > > > telephone 847 570 9901 x17 > > facsimile 847 570 9903 > > email nicholas.paredes@opmedia.com > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > ----- We are now the Knights who say... "Ekki-Ekki-Ekki-Ekki-PTANG! Zoom-Boing! Z'nourrwringmm!" ---- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Aug 25 21:23:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from exegrnnts001.seattleu.edu (exegrnnts001.seattleu.edu [206.81.198.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 161A4153A5 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:23:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hodeleri@seattleu.edu) Received: from seattleu.edu (ppp4.pm2b.wport.com [206.129.99.84]) by exegrnnts001.seattleu.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id RKP9DQS7; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:23:14 -0700 Message-ID: <37C4C169.E9F9ED4F@seattleu.edu> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:24:09 -0700 From: Eric Hodel Organization: Dis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Naiden Markachev Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Old style C function declaration Q References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Naiden Markachev wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > I was reading some FreeBSD source code and I found some difficulties with > the function declaration style. Could someone explain me what > > char **(*fn) __P((kvm_t *, const struct kinfo_proc *, int)); > > line in this function declaration exactly means: > > static char * > fmt(fn, ki, comm, maxlen) > char **(*fn) __P((kvm_t *, const struct kinfo_proc *, int)); If my rudimentary C knowledge is correct, this declaration is calling the macro __P() -- Eric Hodel - hodeleri@seattleu.edu - Aspiring programmer & FPS minor demi-god. Customers will come to our 'home page' in unbelievable numbers and find out everything we want them to know. --Bill Gates To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Aug 26 4:41:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailc.telia.com (mailc.telia.com [194.22.190.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B57414E94 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 04:41:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fredrik.carlen@telia.com) Received: from d1o29.telia.com (root@d1o29.telia.com [194.236.214.241]) by mailc.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA19303 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:41:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from myname.my.domain (t1o29p88.telia.com [194.236.214.88]) by d1o29.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA28955 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:41:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Fredrik Carlen Reply-To: fredrik.carlen@telia.com To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Name o' daemon? Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:40:39 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99082613415001.00636@myname.my.domain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What's the name of the little daemon that is the symbol for freeBSD? /Fredrik To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Aug 26 4:47:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mimer.null.dk (mimer.null.dk [130.228.230.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C4B8314E94 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 04:47:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from holker@null.dk) Received: (qmail 24313 invoked by uid 1037); 26 Aug 1999 11:45:34 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Aug 1999 11:45:34 -0000 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:45:34 +0200 (CEST) From: Jonas Anderson To: Fredrik Carlen Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Name o' daemon? In-Reply-To: <99082613415001.00636@myname.my.domain> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Fredrik Carlen wrote: > What's the name of the little daemon that is the symbol for freeBSD? it's called Jonas };> -J To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Aug 26 5:12:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from erba-in-ax.erba.hu (erba-in-ax.erba.hu [195.8.33.225]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A69C615A69 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 05:12:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from erik@erba.hu) Received: from erik.erba.hu (szilard.satimex.tvnet.hu [195.38.97.65]) by erba-in-ax.erba.hu (8.8.8/8.8.8/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id OAA10625 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:17:21 +0200 From: Erik Arokszallasi Reply-To: erik@erba.hu To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: unsubscribe Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:20:57 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.20] Content-Type: text/plain References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99082614212202.16118@erik.erba.hu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org unsubscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Aug 26 6:44: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mission.mvnc.edu (mission.mvnc.edu [149.143.2.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2692E15C8A for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 06:44:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kdrobnac@mission.mvnc.edu) Received: from localhost (kdrobnac@localhost) by mission.mvnc.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id JAA15348; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:41:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:41:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenny Drobnack To: Fredrik Carlen Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Name o' daemon? In-Reply-To: <99082613415001.00636@myname.my.domain> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chuck. > What's the name of the little daemon that is the symbol for freeBSD? > > /Fredrik > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > ----- We are now the Knights who say... "Ekki-Ekki-Ekki-Ekki-PTANG! Zoom-Boing! Z'nourrwringmm!" ---- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Aug 26 7: 1:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from inga.augusta.de (inga.augusta.de [193.175.23.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DDD314E2B for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 07:01:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from case@inga.augusta.de) Received: (from case@localhost) by inga.augusta.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA22987 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:01:06 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19990826160105.A20966@augusta.de> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:01:05 +0200 From: Wolfgang Kess To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Name o' daemon? References: <99082613415001.00636@myname.my.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Kenny Drobnack on Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 09:41:51AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org think d.mon is very nice too. On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 09:41:51AM -0400, Kenny Drobnack wrote: > Chuck. > > > What's the name of the little daemon that is the symbol for freeBSD? > > > > /Fredrik > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Aug 26 8: 0:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from richardson.apana.org.au (richardson.apana.org.au [203.3.126.216]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 229FB15046 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:00:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from young@richardson.apana.org.au) Received: from jdy [203.3.126.129] by richardson.apana.org.au [203.3.126.216] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP4.T) for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 00:25:35 +1000 Message-ID: <001e01beefcf$682cfc80$857e03cb@jdy> From: "Young" To: "Kenny Drobnack" Cc: Subject: Re: freebsd/nt Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 00:29:26 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG X-Return-Path: young@richardson.apana.org.au Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Don't suppose this is quite the right place, but I've had a bit of experience with Win98 / NT if not with BSD and since a heap of people reading this stuff are interested in dual boot systems it might be of interest. A solution that has worked really well for me with dual boot installations is to use those removable hard drive brackets, fit one hard drive in regular permanent mounting, and second one in the removable thingy. Its a simple matter to use the switch on the removable gadget to enable or disable one of the hard drives, and with modern motherboards which have primary and secondary IDE channels, it doesn't matter whether the system boots from the primary or the secondary IDE drive. I figure its a lot more elegant solution than boot managers and boot floppies. There are several reasons why Win98 crashes and generally most are real simple to fix if one knows the tricks, but thats certainly not a subject for this list :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Aug 26 12:44:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from f1node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.18.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF5C153C5 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:44:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Received: from moritz.alleswirdgelber (uzs106@ascend-tk-p81.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.81]) by f1node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA48126; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:42:39 +0200 Received: from localhost (uzs106@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moritz.alleswirdgelber (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA00729; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:16:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:16:51 +0200 (CEST) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-Sender: uzs106@localhost.rhrz.uni-bonn.de To: Eric Hodel Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PLIP with Win 98 SE ?<< In-Reply-To: <37C36B66.EE994B83@seattleu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, > > I saw there is a "modem" called something like "Parallel connection", but it > > Why not just buy an external modem? Just plug into your serial port. > (COM1/2...) I want to have a network with the FBSD machine. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Aug 26 12:45: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from f1node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.18.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F374515440 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:44:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Received: from moritz.alleswirdgelber (uzs106@ascend-tk-p81.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.81]) by f1node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA47872; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:42:42 +0200 Received: from localhost (uzs106@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moritz.alleswirdgelber (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA00732; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:17:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:17:32 +0200 (CEST) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-Sender: uzs106@localhost.rhrz.uni-bonn.de To: Andrew Boothman Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Parallel Zip drive In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi ! On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Andrew Boothman wrote: > On 24-Aug-99 Heiko Recktenwald wrote: > > There is something about this beast in LINT, but I cant make it work. > > Adding a Parallel Port Zip Drive is covered in the FAQ. It says: "Read LINT" > > It is very important that you check the FAQ, Handbook and mailing list archives > before sending messages to the lists. Couldnt agree more but sometimes things are difficult to find or difficult to understand. There is ONE website in france "the parallel zip page", that looked a little bit to advanced for me and I think I should try first the "traditional" way, LINT. If you have managed to run such a IOMEGA thing.... H. > Many thanks! > > --- > Andrew Boothman > FreeBSD UK User Group > http://ukug.uk.FreeBSD.org/~andrew/ > http://ukug.uk.FreeBSD.org/ > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Aug 26 14:15:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from exegrnnts001.seattleu.edu (exegrnnts001.seattleu.edu [206.81.198.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BBB814FFC for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:15:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hodeleri@seattleu.edu) Received: from seattleu.edu (ppp2.pm2b.wport.com [206.129.99.82]) by exegrnnts001.seattleu.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id RKP9DZX4; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:14:33 -0700 Message-ID: <37C5AE75.97F79EAA@seattleu.edu> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:15:33 -0700 From: Eric Hodel Organization: Dis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Heiko Recktenwald Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PLIP with Win 98 SE ?<< References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Heiko Recktenwald wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I saw there is a "modem" called something like "Parallel connection", but it > > > > Why not just buy an external modem? Just plug into your serial port. > > (COM1/2...) > > I want to have a network with the FBSD machine. Oops!! Do you have any USB ports? I think a USB ethernet device may be working now on -STABLE, but I haven't checked up on the USB stuff in quite a while. On second thought a null-modem cable might work, I've never set up SLIP connection, but take a look at slattach(8) and sliplogin(8) According to the lp(4) man page you need to have the following in your kernel (3.2-RELEASE): controller ppbus0 device plip0 at ppbus? controller ppc0 at isa? port? net irq7 but it seems to only work FreeBSD <--> FreeBSD or FreeBSD <--> Linux, according to the man page. I think a SLIP link will work FreeBSD <--> Windows* -- Eric Hodel - hodeleri@seattleu.edu - Aspiring programmer & FPS minor demi-god. Customers will come to our 'home page' in unbelievable numbers and find out everything we want them to know. --Bill Gates To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Aug 26 14:17: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from exegrnnts001.seattleu.edu (exegrnnts001.seattleu.edu [206.81.198.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7270150FA for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:16:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hodeleri@seattleu.edu) Received: from seattleu.edu (ppp2.pm2b.wport.com [206.129.99.82]) by exegrnnts001.seattleu.edu with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id RKP9DZYZ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:16:30 -0700 Message-ID: <37C5AEED.70AD01D7@seattleu.edu> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:17:33 -0700 From: Eric Hodel Organization: Dis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonas Anderson Cc: Fredrik Carlen , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Name o' daemon? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jonas Anderson wrote: > > On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Fredrik Carlen wrote: > > > What's the name of the little daemon that is the symbol for freeBSD? > > it's called Jonas };> I thought it was "Eric the almighty" Seriously though, its "Chuck" -- Eric Hodel - hodeleri@seattleu.edu - Aspiring programmer & FPS minor demi-god. Customers will come to our 'home page' in unbelievable numbers and find out everything we want them to know. --Bill Gates To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Aug 26 14:22:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from sumatra.americantv.com (sumatra.americantv.com [208.139.222.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 346E915FDE for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:22:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jlemon@americantv.com) Received: from right.PCS (right.PCS [148.105.10.31]) by sumatra.americantv.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA27623; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:22:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from jlemon@localhost) by right.PCS (8.8.5/8.6.4) id QAA27142; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:22:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19990826162220.26393@right.PCS> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:22:20 -0500 From: Jonathan Lemon To: Eric Hodel Cc: Jonas Anderson , Fredrik Carlen , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Name o' daemon? References: <37C5AEED.70AD01D7@seattleu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.61.1 In-Reply-To: <37C5AEED.70AD01D7@seattleu.edu>; from Eric Hodel on Aug 08, 1999 at 02:17:33PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Aug 08, 1999 at 02:17:33PM -0700, Eric Hodel wrote: > Jonas Anderson wrote: > > > > On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Fredrik Carlen wrote: > > > > > What's the name of the little daemon that is the symbol for freeBSD? > > > > it's called Jonas };> > > I thought it was "Eric the almighty" > > Seriously though, its "Chuck" No, it isn't. He doesn't have a name. If he had one, it would be "beastie". -- Jonathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Aug 26 14:26:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from joe.halenet.com.au (joe.halenet.com.au [203.37.141.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F7A14BEF for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:26:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from donh@halenet.com.au) Received: from igor (modem-57-warw.halenet.com.au [203.55.33.57]) by joe.halenet.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id HAA20655; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 07:26:14 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from donh@halenet.com.au) Message-ID: <000d01beefa5$1a3b78a0$392137cb@igor> From: "Don Hansford" To: , References: <99082613415001.00636@myname.my.domain> Subject: Re: Name o' daemon? Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 19:26:37 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chuckie ----- Original Message ----- From: Fredrik Carlen To: Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 9:40 PM Subject: Name o' daemon? > What's the name of the little daemon that is the symbol for freeBSD? > > /Fredrik > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Aug 26 14:27: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from joe.halenet.com.au (joe.halenet.com.au [203.37.141.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC8A415473 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:27:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from donh@halenet.com.au) Received: from igor (modem-57-warw.halenet.com.au [203.55.33.57]) by joe.halenet.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id HAA20679; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 07:27:12 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from donh@halenet.com.au) Message-ID: <001501beefa5$3f4b62e0$392137cb@igor> From: "Don Hansford" To: "Jonas Anderson" , "Fredrik Carlen" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Name o' daemon? Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 19:27:36 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chuckie is the name, (and his girlfriend is Emily) ----- Original Message ----- From: Jonas Anderson To: Fredrik Carlen Cc: Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 9:45 PM Subject: Re: Name o' daemon? > On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Fredrik Carlen wrote: > > > What's the name of the little daemon that is the symbol for freeBSD? > > it's called Jonas };> > > -J > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Aug 26 14:28:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com (pau-amma.whistle.com [207.76.205.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3116514BEF for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:28:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id OAA15583 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:28:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:28:19 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <199908262128.OAA15583@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Name o' daemon? Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:17:33 -0700 >From: Eric Hodel >Seriously though, its "Chuck" Not according to the fellow who has a copyright on the image (M. Kirk McKusick). At the Monterey USENIX, he explained that when he was growing up, there was a(nother) kid in the neighborhood called "Chuck". This Chuck was rather a bully, it seems... and Kirk indicated that he would thus never name something he liked & cared about "Chuck". He said that the daemon has no name. (BTW, since this is -newbies, Kirk was one of the last folks at CSRG -- the UC Berkeley "Computer Science Research Group", where the contributions from around the world were merged to become "BSD".) He (Kirk) is on vacation for a bit, as I understand it, so attempts to reach him on the matter may be delayed. Cheers, david -- David Wolfskill dhw@whistle.com UNIX System Administrator voice: (650) 577-7158 pager: (888) 347-0197 FAX: (650) 372-5915 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Aug 26 15:41:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from namaste.cc.columbia.edu (namaste.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DFAE15F14 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:41:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuyman@confusion.net) Received: from confusion.net (dialup-1-28.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.42.37]) by namaste.cc.columbia.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA28215; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:41:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37C5C287.F1DB5AEB@confusion.net> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:41:11 -0400 From: Laurence Berland Organization: B.R.A.T.T. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Hodel Cc: Jonas Anderson , Fredrik Carlen , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Name o' daemon? References: <37C5AEED.70AD01D7@seattleu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Don't call the daemon chuck, chucky, or anything resembling that name. Jordan mentioned just recently that that bugs Kirk McKusick alot, and he holds the copyright on the daemon. I think he said beastie was ok, but I just call him the bsd daemon. Eric Hodel wrote: > > Jonas Anderson wrote: > > > > On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Fredrik Carlen wrote: > > > > > What's the name of the little daemon that is the symbol for freeBSD? > > > > it's called Jonas };> > > I thought it was "Eric the almighty" > > Seriously though, its "Chuck" > > -- > Eric Hodel - hodeleri@seattleu.edu - Aspiring programmer & FPS minor > demi-god. > > Customers will come to our 'home page' in unbelievable numbers and find > out everything we want them to know. > --Bill Gates > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- Laurence Berland, Stuyvesant HS Debate <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Windows 98: n. useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. http://stuy.debate.net icq #7434346 aol imer E1101 The above email Copyright (C) 1999 Laurence Berland All rights reserved To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Aug 26 15:57:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AB9A14DD4 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:57:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from moffet@earthlink.net) Received: from earthlink.net (pool0290.cvx6-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net [209.178.159.35]) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13814 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:55:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37C4745B.2F5C63CE@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:55:24 -0700 From: Scott X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: file system full? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org help! I get this message: servername/kernel: pid 561 (sendmail), uid 1001 on /var: file system full file system full?? What thee... I think it came when I got a 500K email attachment. And all further email has stopped coming in to that user. I think I got lots of disk space still..? a googolplex of TIAs To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Aug 26 16:16:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from tasam.com (tasam.com [206.161.83.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F52B15CBF for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:16:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from korvus@tasam.com) Received: from korvus (hC6523B3F.dhcp.vt.edu [198.82.59.63]) by tasam.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA36824; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 19:16:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from korvus@tasam.com) Message-ID: <000f01bef018$a8f89fa0$03000004@korvus> From: "Jeff Poole" To: "Scott" , References: <37C4745B.2F5C63CE@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: file system full? Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 19:13:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org type "df" and look at either what is mounted /var or your root filesystem if you have no var slice ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott To: Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 6:55 PM Subject: file system full? > > help! I get this message: > > servername/kernel: pid 561 (sendmail), uid 1001 on /var: file system > full > > file system full?? What thee... > > I think it came when I got a 500K email attachment. And all further > email has stopped coming in to that user. > > I think I got lots of disk space still..? > > a googolplex of TIAs > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Aug 26 16:28:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7F20154AD for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:28:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mlduke@concentric.net) Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff [206.173.118.90]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id TAA13623; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 19:18:40 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from ts001d12.mer-id.concentric.net (ts001d12.mer-id.concentric.net [206.173.184.24]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id TAA14357; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 19:20:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:27:40 -0600 (MDT) From: mlduke To: Scott Cc: "freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: file system full? In-Reply-To: <37C4745B.2F5C63CE@earthlink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > servername/kernel: pid 561 (sendmail), uid 1001 on /var: file system > full Do: >df And look at the percentage number in front of /var If it's close to 100%, your system is about to die. If so, go into /var look for large files. Log files can be big if ignored. Do you have StarOffice installed? Some default installs will put that sucker on /var and kill your machine. ML Duke To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Aug 26 18:30:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from staff.cs.usyd.edu.au (staff.cs.usyd.edu.au [129.78.8.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AE8C31559A for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:30:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mhenry@pgrad.cs.usyd.edu.au) Subject: Re: Name o' daemon? To: fredrik.carlen@telia.com Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:29:42 +1000 (EST) From: "Michael Henry" Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <99082613415001.00636@myname.my.domain> from "Fredrik Carlen" at Aug 26, 99 01:40:39 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 730 Message-Id: <19990827013014.AE8C31559A@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Here's a snippet from one of Jordan Hubbard's recent posts to the -advocacy mailing list: P.S. Please don't call him "Chucky" anymore - it really offends Kirk and we don't need to do that. Just call him "the BSD daemon" or just "the daemon." Kirk says that he's not supposed to have a name anyway, and if he did, it would probably be "beastie" (not that I like that name much myself, so I just call him "the daemon", pronounced "day-mon"). - Jordan > > What's the name of the little daemon that is the symbol for freeBSD? > > /Fredrik > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Aug 26 19:25: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from beast.knf.beldin.net (beast.au.eggdrop.net [203.38.198.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9147E15D2E for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 19:24:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from west@beast.knf.beldin.net) Received: (from west@localhost) by beast.knf.beldin.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA00291 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:29:21 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from west) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:29:21 +0930 (CST) Reply-To: cjag@knfpub.com From: Christine Jaeger To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Yet another newbie Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Dan, Not only are there lots of aussies on this list (I'm in Adelaide) but my sister lives in Warwick too. Her son is mad keen on getting into unix in a big way, so please keep us informed if you get your user group going! Cheers, Chris :) P.S. Of course this said nephew will have no choice but to run fbsd or else Aunty will stop sending nice CD's full of goodies And yes, we also have 386's merrily running fbsd! On 19-Aug-99 Don Hansford wrote: > G'day Sue, > Good to see another Aussie is on this list! > Me and Pat (the mate with the M$-free zone) are drumming up business for a > local Un*x User Group, and it's amazing who is showing interest. I just > found out today that our ISP (halenet) is considering running a BSD Mirror > Site. What a spinout!!!! One of the local schools has a Linux server, and > the TAFE are considering running a Un*x night course. I feel like I've > stepped out of the wilderness, and into /usr/local/heaven! > BTW, is your 386 a DX40? (that's the techie coming out in me) > Regards > Igor > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sue Blake > To: mlduke > Cc: Don Hansford ; > Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 9:41 AM > Subject: Re: Yet another newbie > > >> On Thu, Aug 19, 1999 at 03:06:16PM -0600, mlduke wrote: >> > > sure. Currently scavenging bits from work to build a 300 or better > box. >> > >> > Welcome to the world of FBSD. As it happens, I just put a 350 box > together >> > with advice from my friend and Unix Mentor, the AIX Systems Engineer. >> >> Ha! You guys with your puny little systems... only 300, 350... >> They must be at least ten years old. Mine's a whole 386 with a whopping >> 8 megs of RAM! :-) And FreeBSD loves them all the same. >> >> :,) >> >> -- >> >> Regards, >> -*Sue*- >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Aug 26 19:25: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from beast.knf.beldin.net (beast.au.eggdrop.net [203.38.198.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4995715D45 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 19:24:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from west@beast.knf.beldin.net) Received: (from west@localhost) by beast.knf.beldin.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA00365 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:45:23 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from west) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <001101beea8e$46ac38a0$2e2137cb@igor> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:45:23 +0930 (CST) Reply-To: cjag@knfpub.com From: Christine Jaeger To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Yet another newbie Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Dan, Not only are there lots of aussies on this list (I'm in Adelaide) but my sister lives in Warwick too. Her son is mad keen on getting into unix in a big way, so please keep us informed if you get your user group going! Cheers, Chris :) P.S. Of course this said nephew will have no choice but to run fbsd or else Aunty will stop sending nice CD's full of goodies And yes, we also have 386's merrily running fbsd! On 19-Aug-99 Don Hansford wrote: > G'day Sue, > Good to see another Aussie is on this list! > Me and Pat (the mate with the M$-free zone) are drumming up business for a > local Un*x User Group, and it's amazing who is showing interest. I just > found out today that our ISP (halenet) is considering running a BSD Mirror > Site. What a spinout!!!! One of the local schools has a Linux server, and > the TAFE are considering running a Un*x night course. I feel like I've > stepped out of the wilderness, and into /usr/local/heaven! > BTW, is your 386 a DX40? (that's the techie coming out in me) > Regards > Igor > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sue Blake > To: mlduke > Cc: Don Hansford ; > Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 9:41 AM > Subject: Re: Yet another newbie > > >> On Thu, Aug 19, 1999 at 03:06:16PM -0600, mlduke wrote: >> > > sure. Currently scavenging bits from work to build a 300 or better > box. >> > >> > Welcome to the world of FBSD. As it happens, I just put a 350 box > together >> > with advice from my friend and Unix Mentor, the AIX Systems Engineer. >> >> Ha! You guys with your puny little systems... only 300, 350... >> They must be at least ten years old. Mine's a whole 386 with a whopping >> 8 megs of RAM! :-) And FreeBSD loves them all the same. >> >> :,) >> >> -- >> >> Regards, >> -*Sue*- >> >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message >> > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Christine Jaeger Date: 23-Aug-99 Time: 18:36:30 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 27 6:30:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D59C14E3E for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 06:30:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from moffet@earthlink.net) Received: from earthlink.net (pool0154.cvx6-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net [209.178.158.154]) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA01473 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 06:28:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37C540D2.1723D2BF@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 06:27:46 -0700 From: Scott X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: what's a core dump Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org what's a core dump? something gives me the feeling that i must have done something wrong :( thanks y'all To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 27 6:38: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mission.mvnc.edu (mission.mvnc.edu [149.143.2.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B9014E2C for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 06:38:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kdrobnac@mission.mvnc.edu) Received: from localhost (kdrobnac@localhost) by mission.mvnc.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id JAA01946; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:36:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:36:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenny Drobnack To: Scott Cc: "freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: what's a core dump In-Reply-To: <37C540D2.1723D2BF@earthlink.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A core dump is when your program crashes and it kind of poops the contents of memory out onto a disk... Unless you really want to learn how to dissect a misbehaving program, its safe just to delete the thing, as it just takes up disk space. > what's a core dump? something gives me the feeling that i must have > done something wrong :( > thanks y'all > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > ----- We are now the Knights who say... "Ekki-Ekki-Ekki-Ekki-PTANG! Zoom-Boing! Z'nourrwringmm!" ---- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 27 14:11:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web121.yahoomail.com (web121.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C7939155A1 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:11:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon_v_mendoza@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19990827211047.7351.rocketmail@web121.yahoomail.com> Received: from [128.58.111.30] by web121.yahoomail.com; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:10:47 PDT Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:10:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Simon Mendoza Subject: re: lynx browser To: Hamid Dastkar , FreeBSD Mailing List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Great, Thank you Simon --- Hamid Dastkar wrote: > folks, > there was a discussion about lynx (out of U. > Kansas). > i tought i give one possible useful reference (i > think > that is where it leads to the source): > > telnet lynx.cc.ukans.edu > > and the rest is self-explanatory. > anyway i hope you will enjoy if it is not what you > are looking for :-) > > ciao, > hamid > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of > the message > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 27 17: 2:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-oe14.hotmail.com [216.32.180.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A6E3E14D48 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:02:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mchamhps@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 5635 invoked by uid 65534); 27 Aug 1999 23:59:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990827235951.5634.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [152.207.239.65] From: "mchamhps" To: References: Subject: Re: Yet another newbie Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 18:57:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org So when I get mine up & running with a P166 w/128 megs I'll be burning rubber! LOL! :o ----- Original Message ----- From: Christine Jaeger To: Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 4:15 AM Subject: Re: Yet another newbie > Hi Dan, > > Not only are there lots of aussies on this list (I'm in Adelaide) but my > sister lives in Warwick too. Her son is mad keen on getting into unix in a > big way, so please keep us informed if you get your user group going! > > Cheers, > Chris :) > > P.S. Of course this said nephew will have no choice but to run fbsd or else > Aunty will stop sending nice CD's full of goodies And yes, we also have > 386's merrily running fbsd! > > On 19-Aug-99 Don Hansford wrote: > > G'day Sue, > > Good to see another Aussie is on this list! > > Me and Pat (the mate with the M$-free zone) are drumming up business for a > > local Un*x User Group, and it's amazing who is showing interest. I just > > found out today that our ISP (halenet) is considering running a BSD Mirror > > Site. What a spinout!!!! One of the local schools has a Linux server, and > > the TAFE are considering running a Un*x night course. I feel like I've > > stepped out of the wilderness, and into /usr/local/heaven! > > BTW, is your 386 a DX40? (that's the techie coming out in me) > > Regards > > Igor > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Sue Blake > > To: mlduke > > Cc: Don Hansford ; > > Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 9:41 AM > > Subject: Re: Yet another newbie > > > > > >> On Thu, Aug 19, 1999 at 03:06:16PM -0600, mlduke wrote: > >> > > sure. Currently scavenging bits from work to build a 300 or better > > box. > >> > > >> > Welcome to the world of FBSD. As it happens, I just put a 350 box > > together > >> > with advice from my friend and Unix Mentor, the AIX Systems Engineer. > >> > >> Ha! You guys with your puny little systems... only 300, 350... > >> They must be at least ten years old. Mine's a whole 386 with a whopping > >> 8 megs of RAM! :-) And FreeBSD loves them all the same. > >> > >> :,) > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Regards, > >> -*Sue*- > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > ---------------------------------- > E-Mail: Christine Jaeger > Date: 23-Aug-99 > Time: 18:36:30 > > This message was sent by XFMail > ---------------------------------- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 27 19:22:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE8A153FE for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 19:22:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA05552 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 12:30:08 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 12:30:08 +1000 (EST) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <199908280230.MAA05552@phoenix.welearn.com.au> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 27 19:44:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from guppy.pond.net (guppy.pond.net [205.240.25.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A37514E0D for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 19:44:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmp@aracnet.com) Received: from aracnet.com (snapuser2-89.pacificcrest.net [216.36.34.89]) by guppy.pond.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA15854; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 19:31:37 -0700 (PDT) From: dmp@aracnet.com Message-ID: <37C74C4F.659542E4@aracnet.com> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 19:41:19 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Henry Cc: fredrik.carlen@telia.com, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Name o' daemon? References: <19990827013014.AE8C31559A@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Michael Henry wrote: > > Here's a snippet from one of Jordan Hubbard's recent posts to the > -advocacy mailing list: > > > P.S. Please don't call him "Chucky" anymore - it really offends Kirk > and we don't need to do that. Just call him "the BSD daemon" or just > "the daemon." Kirk says that he's not supposed to have a name anyway, > and if he did, it would probably be "beastie" (not that I like that name > much myself, so I just call him "the daemon", pronounced "day-mon"). I thought "daemon" was Latin? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 27 22: 7:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEEA515563 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 22:07:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id OAA18567; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 14:37:51 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id OAA14798; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 14:37:51 +0930 (CST) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 14:37:51 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: dmp@aracnet.com Cc: Michael Henry , fredrik.carlen@telia.com, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Name o' daemon? Message-ID: <19990828143751.H13904@freebie.lemis.com> References: <19990827013014.AE8C31559A@hub.freebsd.org> <37C74C4F.659542E4@aracnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <37C74C4F.659542E4@aracnet.com>; from dmp@aracnet.com on Fri, Aug 27, 1999 at 07:41:19PM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday, 27 August 1999 at 19:41:19 -0700, dmp@aracnet.com wrote: > Michael Henry wrote: >> >> Here's a snippet from one of Jordan Hubbard's recent posts to the >> -advocacy mailing list: >> >> >> P.S. Please don't call him "Chucky" anymore - it really offends Kirk >> and we don't need to do that. Just call him "the BSD daemon" or just >> "the daemon." Kirk says that he's not supposed to have a name anyway, >> and if he did, it would probably be "beastie" (not that I like that name >> much myself, so I just call him "the daemon", pronounced "day-mon"). > > I thought "daemon" was Latin? No, it's Greek, admittedly adapted into Latin spelling (see "The Complete FreeBSD" for the Greek spelling, which would be better rendered as "daimon". There's no evidence that it's pronounced differently from "demon". In ancient Greek it would presumably have been 'die-mon', and I think in modern Greek it's "dee-mon". Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 27 22:14:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (imo21.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A443C15591 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 22:14:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Smc659@aol.com) Received: from Smc659@aol.com by imo21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v22.4.) id 1FTBa20497 (3964); Sat, 28 Aug 1999 01:13:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Smc659@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 01:13:34 EDT Subject: Re: Name o' daemon? To: grog@lemis.com Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 3 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org So basically it is pronounce "demon", Its kinda easy cause the logo is a devil/blezbub. Pardon speelings Sam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 27 22:23:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from guppy.pond.net (guppy.pond.net [205.240.25.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2371914D40 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 22:23:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmp@aracnet.com) Received: from aracnet.com (snapuser2-89.pacificcrest.net [216.36.34.89]) by guppy.pond.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA02475; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 22:13:10 -0700 (PDT) From: dmp@aracnet.com Message-ID: <37C7722E.B13768AA@aracnet.com> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 22:22:54 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lehey Cc: Michael Henry , fredrik.carlen@telia.com, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Name o' daemon? References: <19990827013014.AE8C31559A@hub.freebsd.org> <37C74C4F.659542E4@aracnet.com> <19990828143751.H13904@freebie.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greg Lehey wrote: > On Friday, 27 August 1999 at 19:41:19 -0700, dmp@aracnet.com wrote: >> Michael Henry wrote: >>> >>> Here's a snippet from one of Jordan Hubbard's recent posts to the >>> -advocacy mailing list: >>> >>> >>> P.S. Please don't call him "Chucky" anymore - it really offends Kirk >>> and we don't need to do that. Just call him "the BSD daemon" or just >>> "the daemon." Kirk says that he's not supposed to have a name anyway, >>> and if he did, it would probably be "beastie" (not that I like that name >>> much myself, so I just call him "the daemon", pronounced "day-mon"). >> >> I thought "daemon" was Latin? > > No, it's Greek, admittedly adapted into Latin spelling (see "The > Complete FreeBSD" for the Greek spelling, which would be better > rendered as "daimon". There's no evidence that it's pronounced > differently from "demon". In ancient Greek it would presumably have > been 'die-mon', and I think in modern Greek it's "dee-mon". Smooth book plug. :-) I'm a little rusty on my Greek, so I'll have to trust you on that one I guess. But if it's adapted to Latin spelling, then it would have to be pronounced die-mon, wouldn't it? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 27 22:27:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F5B14E91 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 22:27:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id OAA18638; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 14:56:19 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id OAA15425; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 14:56:19 +0930 (CST) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 14:56:19 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: dmp@aracnet.com Cc: Michael Henry , fredrik.carlen@telia.com, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Name o' daemon? Message-ID: <19990828145619.I13904@freebie.lemis.com> References: <19990827013014.AE8C31559A@hub.freebsd.org> <37C74C4F.659542E4@aracnet.com> <19990828143751.H13904@freebie.lemis.com> <37C7722E.B13768AA@aracnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <37C7722E.B13768AA@aracnet.com>; from dmp@aracnet.com on Fri, Aug 27, 1999 at 10:22:54PM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday, 27 August 1999 at 22:22:54 -0700, dmp@aracnet.com wrote: > Greg Lehey wrote: >> On Friday, 27 August 1999 at 19:41:19 -0700, dmp@aracnet.com wrote: >>> Michael Henry wrote: >>>> >>>> Here's a snippet from one of Jordan Hubbard's recent posts to the >>>> -advocacy mailing list: >>>> >>>> >>>> P.S. Please don't call him "Chucky" anymore - it really offends Kirk >>>> and we don't need to do that. Just call him "the BSD daemon" or just >>>> "the daemon." Kirk says that he's not supposed to have a name anyway, >>>> and if he did, it would probably be "beastie" (not that I like that name >>>> much myself, so I just call him "the daemon", pronounced "day-mon"). >>> >>> I thought "daemon" was Latin? >> >> No, it's Greek, admittedly adapted into Latin spelling (see "The >> Complete FreeBSD" for the Greek spelling, which would be better >> rendered as "daimon". There's no evidence that it's pronounced >> differently from "demon". In ancient Greek it would presumably have >> been 'die-mon', and I think in modern Greek it's "dee-mon". > > Smooth book plug. :-) > > I'm a little rusty on my Greek, so I'll have to trust you on that > one I guess. But if it's adapted to Latin spelling, then it would > have to be pronounced die-mon, wouldn't it? That depends on your opinion about Latin pronunciation :-) I'd guess that in classical times each letter would have been pronounced separately (da-ey-mon). Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 27 23: 5:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0884D14E54 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:05:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id PAA18723; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 15:33:21 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id PAA15690; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 15:33:22 +0930 (CST) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 15:33:22 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: dmp@aracnet.com Cc: FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Name o' daemon? Message-ID: <19990828153309.J13904@freebie.lemis.com> References: <19990827013014.AE8C31559A@hub.freebsd.org> <37C74C4F.659542E4@aracnet.com> <19990828143751.H13904@freebie.lemis.com> <37C7722E.B13768AA@aracnet.com> <19990828145619.I13904@freebie.lemis.com> <37C779BC.16D1F090@aracnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <37C779BC.16D1F090@aracnet.com>; from dmp@aracnet.com on Fri, Aug 27, 1999 at 10:55:08PM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday, 27 August 1999 at 22:55:08 -0700, dmp@aracnet.com wrote: > Greg Lehey wrote: >> >> On Friday, 27 August 1999 at 22:22:54 -0700, dmp@aracnet.com wrote: >>> Greg Lehey wrote: >>>> On Friday, 27 August 1999 at 19:41:19 -0700, dmp@aracnet.com wrote: >>>>> Michael Henry wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Here's a snippet from one of Jordan Hubbard's recent posts to the >>>>>> -advocacy mailing list: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> P.S. Please don't call him "Chucky" anymore - it really offends Kirk >>>>>> and we don't need to do that. Just call him "the BSD daemon" or just >>>>>> "the daemon." Kirk says that he's not supposed to have a name anyway, >>>>>> and if he did, it would probably be "beastie" (not that I like that name >>>>>> much myself, so I just call him "the daemon", pronounced "day-mon"). >>>>> >>>>> I thought "daemon" was Latin? >>>> >>>> No, it's Greek, admittedly adapted into Latin spelling (see "The >>>> Complete FreeBSD" for the Greek spelling, which would be better >>>> rendered as "daimon". There's no evidence that it's pronounced >>>> differently from "demon". In ancient Greek it would presumably have >>>> been 'die-mon', and I think in modern Greek it's "dee-mon". >>> >>> Smooth book plug. :-) >>> >>> I'm a little rusty on my Greek, so I'll have to trust you on that >>> one I guess. But if it's adapted to Latin spelling, then it would >>> have to be pronounced die-mon, wouldn't it? >> >> That depends on your opinion about Latin pronunciation :-) I'd guess >> that in classical times each letter would have been pronounced >> separately (da-ey-mon). > > As I learned Latin, "da-ey-mon" isn't proper Latin grammar. Well, it's not grammar at all, it's pronunciation. > Syllable boundaries can only occur immediately before or between > consonants, not between vowels. Plus, "ae" is a diphthong, > pronounced as a single hard I sound, as in mile. That's what you learnt. What you learn about Latin pronunciation depends on where you learn it. English, French, German and Italian pronunciation of Latin are all completely different. > In English, however, "ae" is a hard A, as in cape. So in English, > it would be "day-mon" as Mr. Hubbard pronounced it, but daemon isn't > an English word. But then English is a bastard language, much to > its discredit. In English you can't rely on a sequence of letters to have any specific pronunciation. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 27 23:34:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from guppy.pond.net (guppy.pond.net [205.240.25.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA716154DB for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:34:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmp@aracnet.com) Received: from aracnet.com (snapuser2-89.pacificcrest.net [216.36.34.89]) by guppy.pond.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA08402; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:24:43 -0700 (PDT) From: dmp@aracnet.com Message-ID: <37C782F5.E77D6B55@aracnet.com> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:34:29 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Lehey Cc: FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Name o' daemon? References: <19990827013014.AE8C31559A@hub.freebsd.org> <37C74C4F.659542E4@aracnet.com> <19990828143751.H13904@freebie.lemis.com> <37C7722E.B13768AA@aracnet.com> <19990828145619.I13904@freebie.lemis.com> <37C779BC.16D1F090@aracnet.com> <19990828153309.J13904@freebie.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greg Lehey wrote: > On Friday, 27 August 1999 at 22:55:08 -0700, dmp@aracnet.com wrote: >> Greg Lehey wrote: >>> On Friday, 27 August 1999 at 22:22:54 -0700, dmp@aracnet.com wrote: >>>> Greg Lehey wrote: >>>>> On Friday, 27 August 1999 at 19:41:19 -0700, dmp@aracnet.com wrote: >>>>>> Michael Henry wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here's a snippet from one of Jordan Hubbard's recent posts to the >>>>>>> -advocacy mailing list: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> P.S. Please don't call him "Chucky" anymore - it really offends Kirk >>>>>>> and we don't need to do that. Just call him "the BSD daemon" or just >>>>>>> "the daemon." Kirk says that he's not supposed to have a name anyway, >>>>>>> and if he did, it would probably be "beastie" (not that I like that name >>>>>>> much myself, so I just call him "the daemon", pronounced "day-mon"). >>>>>> >>>>>> I thought "daemon" was Latin? >>>>> >>>>> No, it's Greek, admittedly adapted into Latin spelling (see "The >>>>> Complete FreeBSD" for the Greek spelling, which would be better >>>>> rendered as "daimon". There's no evidence that it's pronounced >>>>> differently from "demon". In ancient Greek it would presumably have >>>>> been 'die-mon', and I think in modern Greek it's "dee-mon". >>>> >>>> Smooth book plug. :-) >>>> >>>> I'm a little rusty on my Greek, so I'll have to trust you on that >>>> one I guess. But if it's adapted to Latin spelling, then it would >>>> have to be pronounced die-mon, wouldn't it? >>> >>> That depends on your opinion about Latin pronunciation :-) I'd guess >>> that in classical times each letter would have been pronounced >>> separately (da-ey-mon). >> >> As I learned Latin, "da-ey-mon" isn't proper Latin grammar. > > Well, it's not grammar at all, it's pronunciation. Grammar defines all aspects of language parsing, including the definition of rules pertaining to syllable boundaries and thusly pronunciation. Ha ir, ha ir, ha ir. :-) >> Syllable boundaries can only occur immediately before or between >> consonants, not between vowels. Plus, "ae" is a diphthong, >> pronounced as a single hard I sound, as in mile. > > That's what you learnt. What you learn about Latin pronunciation > depends on where you learn it. English, French, German and Italian > pronunciation of Latin are all completely different. How did you learn Latin? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 28 0:49:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from oracle.clara.net (oracle.clara.net [195.8.69.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E5E15188 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 00:49:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kenndc@cyberdude.com) Received: from [195.8.80.162] (helo=kenn) by oracle.clara.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11KdCp-0002TZ-00 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 08:47:20 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990828084631.007c6c80@pop.clara.net> X-Sender: kenn@pop.clara.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 08:46:31 +0100 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: Kenn D Crossley Subject: user group Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org anyone know of a freebsd user group in farnworth, bolton, lancs please? thanks, kenn please reply to: kenndc@cyberdude.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 28 5:42:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.radiks.net (mail.radiks.net [205.138.126.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A20FA14DCA for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 05:42:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from johnmxl@radiks.net) Received: from radiks.net (dsp-437-omaha.radiks.net [208.154.158.195]) by mail.radiks.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA13365 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 07:39:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <37C7D8BC.6C14C0B6@radiks.net> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 07:40:28 -0500 From: John Amdor III Reply-To: johnmxl@radiks.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Name o' daemon? References: <19990827013014.AE8C31559A@hub.freebsd.org> <37C74C4F.659542E4@aracnet.com> <19990828143751.H13904@freebie.lemis.com> <37C7722E.B13768AA@aracnet.com> <19990828145619.I13904@freebie.lemis.com> <37C779BC.16D1F090@aracnet.com> <19990828153309.J13904@freebie.lemis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greg Lehey wrote: > In English you can't rely on a sequence of letters to have any > specific pronunciation. For instance..."ghoti", pronounced as "fish". John Amdor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 28 9:23:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from scrabble.freeuk.net (scrabble.freeuk.net [212.126.144.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED0B914CFA for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 09:23:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@ukug.uk.FreeBSD.org) Received: from [212.126.147.160] (helo=cream.org) by scrabble.freeuk.net with esmtp (Exim 2.11 #1) id 11KlFm-00065J-00; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 16:22:55 +0000 Content-Length: 335 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 17:18:19 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Boothman To: Heiko Recktenwald Subject: RE: Parallel Zip drive Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 26-Aug-99 Heiko Recktenwald wrote: >> Adding a Parallel Port Zip Drive is covered in the FAQ. > > It says: "Read LINT" Erm. Are you sure? Check : http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/hardware.html#AEN736 --- Andrew Boothman FreeBSD UK User Group http://ukug.uk.FreeBSD.org/~andrew/ http://ukug.uk.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 28 10:38:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C44E8155EE for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:38:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Smc659@aol.com) Received: from Smc659@aol.com by imo26.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v22.4.) id aDDUa03769 (4458); Sat, 28 Aug 1999 13:36:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Smc659@aol.com Message-ID: <68f38389.24f97807@aol.com> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 13:36:07 EDT Subject: Re: Parallel Zip drive To: andrew@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 3 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes its in LINT. That were I got the setting to get mine working. Sam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 28 14:35:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from scrabble.freeuk.net (scrabble.freeuk.net [212.126.144.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 783971569A for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 14:35:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@ukug.uk.FreeBSD.org) Received: from [212.126.147.214] (helo=cream.org) by scrabble.freeuk.net with esmtp (Exim 2.11 #1) id 11Kq7O-0002aG-00; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 21:34:35 +0000 Content-Length: 520 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990828084631.007c6c80@pop.clara.net> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 22:30:15 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Boothman To: Kenn D Crossley Subject: RE: user group Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 28-Aug-99 Kenn D Crossley wrote: > anyone know of a freebsd user group in farnworth, bolton, lancs please? I guess the UK User Group (Which I'm a part of) covers you! Have a look at http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org And consider joining our mailing list on http://mailserver.uk.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-users If you've got any questions don't hesitate to mail me! See ya! --- Andrew Boothman FreeBSD UK User Group http://ukug.uk.FreeBSD.org/~andrew/ http://ukug.uk.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 28 14:51:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-oe6.hotmail.com [216.32.180.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D2BA14E68 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 14:51:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mchamhps@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 12736 invoked by uid 65534); 28 Aug 1999 21:50:56 -0000 Message-ID: <19990828215056.12735.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [152.170.62.110] From: "mchamhps" To: References: <3.0.5.32.19990828084631.007c6c80@pop.clara.net> Subject: Re: user group Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 13:16:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Try looking here Kenn http://www.FreeBSD.org/support.html#user ----- Original Message ----- From: Kenn D Crossley To: Sent: Saturday, August 28, 1999 2:46 AM Subject: user group > anyone know of a freebsd user group in farnworth, bolton, lancs please? > > thanks, > kenn > > please reply to: > kenndc@cyberdude.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 28 15:15:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from freedom.cybertouch.org (freedom.cybertouch.org [216.183.2.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5741F14E4F for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 15:15:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lnb@freedom.cybertouch.org) Received: from localhost (lnb@localhost) by freedom.cybertouch.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA71250; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 18:14:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 18:14:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Lanny Baron To: Harald Kretzschmar Cc: FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: s.m.a.r.t. for bsd In-Reply-To: <19990815202744.A288@thuer.slf.uunet.de> Message-ID: City: Thorhill Province: Ontario Postal: L4J 6X4 Tel: 905-763-1900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Are you looking for what in the microsoft world, they call Project? For IT information, making Gantt charts..etc? Let me know, Lanny Baron On Sun, 15 Aug 1999, Harald Kretzschmar wrote: Hi all, I've build in a new hd (DNES-309170 SCSI UW) in my pc. I think all new hd's supports Self Monitoring Analysis and Reporting Technology (s.m.a.r.t.). Is there software available for FreeBSD to get the infor- mation from the hd ? bye Harald -- E-Mail: hk@thuer.slf.uunet.de [BSD-UNIX #3.1 UserID FBSD040654 (i686)] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message