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= ------=_NextPart_000_007B_01BF3549.DD322900-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 22 19:36:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.bridge.com.br (bridge3.bridge.com.br [200.244.126.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFECD15044 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 1999 19:36:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ebpnet@pobox.com) Received: from impetour (unverified [200.220.16.148]) by mail.bridge.com.br (Vircom SMTPRS 4.1.180) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 01:36:22 -0200 Message-ID: <00a901bf3564$54d65e80$9410dcc8@impetour> Reply-To: "EBPnet" From: "EBPnet" To: Subject: Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 01:39:00 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe ebpnet@pobox.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Nov 23 1:41: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mbj.sphere.ne.jp (mbj.sphere.ne.jp [203.138.71.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB97214F49 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 01:40:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from to_inoue@mbj.sphere.ne.jp) Received: from 0 (pl082.nas124.takatsuki.nttpc.ne.jp [210.153.159.210]) by mbj.sphere.ne.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W) with SMTP id SAA04362 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 18:40:05 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <000701bf3596$b61ec6a0$d29f99d2@0.0.1865816> From: "Masa Inoue" To: Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 18:39:10 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Nov 23 13: 3:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from chekov.Belgium.EU.net (chekov.belgium.eu.net [193.74.208.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B93114A21 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 13:03:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sebastien.adam@ping.be) Received: from (u195-95-29-17.vpop-brussel.planetinternet.be [195.95.29.17]) by chekov.Belgium.EU.net with SMTP id WAA08020 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 22:03:06 +0100 (MET) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=E9bastien_ADAM?= To: Subject: very stupid question Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 22:03:22 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What means GNU? -------------------- Sébastien ADAM Rue Bonneels 25 B-1210 Bruxelles Belgium Tel/Fax : + 32 2 280.07.76 sebastien.adam@ping.be (personal) servicedappoint@ping.be (professional) sebastienadam@netscape.net (spam) http://www.ping.be/servicedappoint/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Nov 23 13:10: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com (pau-amma.whistle.com [207.76.205.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0918714A21 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 13:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id NAA21647; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 13:09:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 13:09:30 -0800 (PST) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <199911232109.NAA21647@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, sebastien.adam@ping.be Subject: Re: very stupid question In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=E9bastien_ADAM?= >Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 22:03:22 +0100 >What means GNU? "GNU's Not UNIX". It's an (intenionally recursive) acronym. I believe this was discussed (in this list) a few months ago, and thus, additional discussion should be in the archives accessible from http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html. Cheers, david -- David Wolfskill dhw@whistle.com UNIX System Administrator voice: (650) 577-7158 pager: (888) 347-0197 FAX: (650) 372-5915 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Nov 23 13:12:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC74814ED7 for ; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 13:12:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dfeig@whistle.com) Received: from whistle.com (Q.whistle.com [207.76.205.237]) by alpo.whistle.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA99241; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 13:12:27 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <383B0360.8AAEDFB6@whistle.com> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 13:13:04 -0800 From: David Feig Organization: Whistle Communications, an IBM Company X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=E9bastien?= ADAM Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: very stupid question References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It stands for: GNU's Not Unix. Sébastien ADAM wrote: > What means GNU? > > -------------------- > Sébastien ADAM > Rue Bonneels 25 > B-1210 Bruxelles > Belgium > Tel/Fax : + 32 2 280.07.76 > sebastien.adam@ping.be (personal) > servicedappoint@ping.be (professional) > sebastienadam@netscape.net (spam) > http://www.ping.be/servicedappoint/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- _______________________________________________________________ David Feig | Whistle Communications, Inc. | 650.577.7151 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Nov 24 4: 1:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.phys.univ.kiev.ua (hq.ups.kiev.ua [193.125.78.249]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D1DB14C98 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 04:01:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from usov@hq.ups.kiev.ua) Received: from hq.ups.kiev.ua (class12.phys.univ.kiev.ua [194.44.151.88]) by mail.phys.univ.kiev.ua (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA20640; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:14:43 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <383BDF6D.CEB7C0CF@hq.ups.kiev.ua> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:51:57 +0200 From: Alex X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "SĘbastien ADAM" Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: very stupid question References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > What means GNU? > > -------------------- > Sébastien ADAM > Rue Bonneels 25 > B-1210 Bruxelles > Belgium > Tel/Fax : + 32 2 280.07.76 > sebastien.adam@ping.be (personal) > servicedappoint@ping.be (professional) > sebastienadam@netscape.net (spam) > http://www.ping.be/servicedappoint/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message GNU means GNU Not Unix :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Nov 24 8:55:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ntserver1.redstonecom.com (ntserver1.redstonecom.com [199.105.223.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81D5152D4 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 08:55:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aromanov@unisphere.cc) Received: by NTSERVER1 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1461.28) id ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:54:37 -0500 Message-ID: <90ABC30C744ED311B16E00500464BEFC2A8B30@NTSERVER1> From: "Romanov, Aleksey" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: RISCom/N2csu configuration Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:54:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1461.28) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I am kind of stuck in configurin RISCom/N2csu (ISA). I understnad how to add device to kernel configuraiton and how to set irq and port address, however, I kind of puzzled with setting dual port memory address and window size, clocks etc. Can any kind soul help me ? Thanks, Aleksey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Nov 24 10:31: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.visualedge.com (visualedge.com [207.139.24.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A2A9614A0A for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:30:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from martinm@visualedge.com) Received: from pony by vedge with SMTP (8.6.11/) id NAA20715; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:26:22 -0500 Message-ID: <011201bf36aa$3e5102e0$a600a8c0@visualedge.com> From: "Martin Mactaggart" To: "FreeBSD Newbies" , "Romanov, Aleksey" References: <90ABC30C744ED311B16E00500464BEFC2A8B30@NTSERVER1> Subject: Re: RISCom/N2csu configuration Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:32:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Your best bet would be to ask this same question in freebsd-questions.... That's what it's there for! =) ----- Original Message ----- From: Romanov, Aleksey To: Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 11:54 AM Subject: RISCom/N2csu configuration Hi, I am kind of stuck in configurin RISCom/N2csu (ISA). I understnad how to add device to kernel configuraiton and how to set irq and port address, however, I kind of puzzled with setting dual port memory address and window size, clocks etc. Can any kind soul help me ? Thanks, Aleksey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Nov 24 10:39:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from milk.k0t.lucky.net (milk.k0t.lucky.net [193.193.192.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 402F3151A7 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:39:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from artur@noo.kiev.ua) Received: from noo.kiev.ua (host1.0.10.10.intranet [10.10.0.1]) by milk.k0t.lucky.net (8.Who.Cares/Kilkenny_is_better) with ESMTP id UAA06625 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 20:39:06 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from artur@noo.kiev.ua) From: artur@noo.kiev.ua Received: from Artur (unknown.noo.kiev.ua [10.10.0.2] (may be forged)) by noo.kiev.ua (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id UAA01348 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 20:59:41 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from artur@noo.kiev.ua) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 20:59:41 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <199911241859.UAA01348@noo.kiev.ua> To: Subject: Promotion offer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Good moning, dear web site holder! Today I visit Your web-site and thought "May be it needs promotion?" I made some automatic promotion tools and needs to improve it. If You interesting a web advertising and promotion You can visit http://www.terra.ee/noo/ and launch automatic promotion by filling a form and placing small text in Your page. First stage recommended, it is free of charge. Sorry, if You will decide this is spam. My e-mail is artur@noo.kiev.ua, this is one time offer to e-mail from Your web page. Best regards Artur Frolov To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Nov 24 10:46:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.pairnet.com (mail.pairnet.com [209.81.157.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C4B5215278 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:46:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@favar.com) Received: from web01 (204.85.1.80[204.85.1.80])by PAIRNET5(MailMax 3.045) with ESMTP id 8356775 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:45:09 -0500 EST Message-ID: <010401bf36ab$74f7d610$500155cc@terraserver.com> From: "Matt" To: , References: <199911241859.UAA01348@noo.kiev.ua> Subject: Re: Promotion offer Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:41:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I dont see this to be a newbee question Matt Jezorek matt@terraserver.com 919-833-9662 ext 207 (W) 336-383-1304 (P) 919-421-6469 (M) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 1:59 PM Subject: Promotion offer > Good moning, dear web site holder! > > Today I visit Your web-site and thought "May be it > needs promotion?" I made some automatic promotion > tools and needs to improve it. > If You interesting a web advertising and promotion > You can visit http://www.terra.ee/noo/ and launch > automatic promotion by filling a form and placing > small text in Your page. First stage recommended, > it is free of charge. > > Sorry, if You will decide this is spam. My e-mail > is artur@noo.kiev.ua, this is one time offer to > e-mail from Your web page. > > Best regards Artur Frolov > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Nov 25 1:20: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hodnet.dev.nanoteq.co.za (hodnet.dev.nanoteq.co.za [196.7.114.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A386514A29 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 01:19:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rk@nanoteq.co.za) Received: from nanoteq.co.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hodnet.dev.nanoteq.co.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA59264 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 11:23:02 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from rk@nanoteq.co.za) Message-ID: <383CFFF5.669CBEF4@nanoteq.co.za> Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 11:23:01 +0200 From: Riaan Kruger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: vi and plus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is it at all possible to edit a file with vi that start with a plus/"+", for example +CONTENTS. The man page says the +whatever is used for some kind of command. Riaan Kruger To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Nov 25 2:45:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from avarice.riverstyx.net (hq-port-89.harbour-dhcp-pool.infinetgroup.com [207.23.37.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3178114D4D for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 02:45:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from unknown@avarice.riverstyx.net) Received: (from unknown@localhost) by avarice.riverstyx.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA27354; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 02:31:15 -0800 Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 02:31:15 -0800 From: Tani Hosokawa To: Riaan Kruger Cc: "freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: vi and plus Message-ID: <19991125023115.A27320@riverstyx.net> References: <383CFFF5.669CBEF4@nanoteq.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us In-Reply-To: <383CFFF5.669CBEF4@nanoteq.co.za>; from Riaan Kruger on Thu, Nov 25, 1999 at 11:23:01AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sure.. vi -- +CONTENTS Works for me. Generally, you can use -- to specify the end of flags, ie. rm -- -filename normally rm would treat -filename as some kind of argment, like vi does with +. On Thu, Nov 25, 1999 at 11:23:01AM +0200, Riaan Kruger wrote: > Is it at all possible to edit a file with vi that start with a plus/"+", > for example +CONTENTS. The man page says the +whatever is used for some > kind of command. > > Riaan Kruger > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- --- tani hosokawa river styx internet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Nov 25 4:37: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from sentry.granch.ru (sentry.granch.ru [212.20.5.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15B4514D1F for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 04:37:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shelton@sentry.granch.ru) Received: (from shelton@localhost) by sentry.granch.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA03872 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 18:37:02 +0600 (NOVT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 18:37:01 +0600 (NOVT) Organization: Granch Ltd. From: "Rashid N. Achilov" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: auto-logout Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org When I idle sometime, auto-logout was happend. When I idle sometime in xterm with mc, I see garbage and string "auto-logout" in command line. After this I have to restart mc, because this garbage don't deleted from command line. How can I configure this annoyed feature? --- With Best Regards. Rashid N. Achilov (RNA1-RIPE), Cert. ID: 28514, Granch Ltd. lead engineer e-mail: achilov@granch.ru, tel (383-2) 24-2363 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Nov 25 6: 0:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from dgriffin.org (dgriffin.org [205.147.189.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DEFA14E16 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 05:59:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dick@dgriffin.org) Received: from localhost (dick@localhost) by dgriffin.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA12041; Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:02:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from dick@dgriffin.org) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:02:09 -0500 (EST) From: Dick Griffin To: "Rashid N. Achilov" Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: auto-logout In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Using "PINE" for e-mail, I frequently get a message telling me that it was prepared usint the 'K018-R' characters, and that my display is set for 'US-ASCII' characters. What are 'K018-R' characters, and where can I find out more about them? Am I really missing something when I see messages prepared using them displyed in ASCII? Thanks Dick Griffin At Home To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Nov 25 6:16:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com (pau-amma.whistle.com [207.76.205.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7841D14BB7 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 06:16:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id GAA02393; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 06:16:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 06:16:12 -0800 (PST) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <199911251416.GAA02393@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: rk@nanoteq.co.za, unknown@riverstyx.net Subject: Re: vi and plus Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19991125023115.A27320@riverstyx.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 02:31:15 -0800 >From: Tani Hosokawa [This probably ought to have gone to -questions, but I thought it would be better to let the folks who saw the original messages see what I had to say about it. And I've re-ordered some text. dhw] >On Thu, Nov 25, 1999 at 11:23:01AM +0200, Riaan Kruger wrote: >> Is it at all possible to edit a file with vi that start with a plus/"+", >> for example +CONTENTS. The man page says the +whatever is used for some >> kind of command. >Sure.. >vi -- +CONTENTS >Works for me. Generally, you can use -- to specify the end of flags, ie. >rm -- -filename >normally rm would treat -filename as some kind of argment, like vi does with +. Actually, the use of "--" in that way has but recently (within the last 8 years or so, mostly from FSF/GNU influence) become rather fashionable. A more general solution (that doesn't depend on that particular method of parsing the command-line) is to refer to the file by prefixing the filename with "./" -- thus: vi ./+CONTENTS (That is, it's "more general" in that it works for any program, whether or not it is sensitive to seeing "--" in the command-line. It also copes with filenames that begin with "-" as well. It is "less general" in the sense that it only works for command-line arguments that correspond to filenames.) Cheers, david -- David Wolfskill dhw@whistle.com UNIX System Administrator voice: (650) 577-7158 pager: (888) 347-0197 FAX: (650) 372-5915 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Nov 25 6:20:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from sentry.granch.ru (sentry.granch.ru [212.20.5.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A8314DCB for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 06:20:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shelton@sentry.granch.ru) Received: (from shelton@localhost) by sentry.granch.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA04290; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 20:20:19 +0600 (NOVT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 20:20:18 +0600 (NOVT) Organization: Granch Ltd. From: "Rashid N. Achilov" To: Dick Griffin Subject: Re: auto-logout Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > What are 'K018-R' characters, and where can I find out > more about them? Am I really missing something when I > see messages prepared using them displyed in ASCII? KOI8-R is Russian charset. In my mail reader it set by default. If message wrote in English, you don't miss anything. --- With Best Regards. Rashid N. Achilov (RNA1-RIPE), Cert. ID: 28514, Granch Ltd. lead engineer e-mail: achilov@granch.ru, tel (383-2) 24-2363 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Nov 25 13:56:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp03.iafrica.com (smtp03.mweb.co.za [196.2.134.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6940B14C97 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 13:56:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dugg@iafrica.com) Received: from pta-dial-196-2-22-75.mweb.co.za ([196.2.22.75] helo=iafrica.com) by smtp03.iafrica.com with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #1) for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG id 11r6sX-000PYb-00; Thu, 25 Nov 1999 23:56:39 +0200 Message-ID: <383D0E5B.5105F99@iafrica.com> Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 12:24:27 +0200 From: Douglas Ulyate X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Promotion offer References: <199911241859.UAA01348@noo.kiev.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org artur@noo.kiev.ua wrote: > > Good moning, dear web site holder! > Question: My web site and this list are in no way related, so why do you send the message here? > Today I visit Your web-site and thought "May be it > needs promotion?" I made some automatic promotion > tools and needs to improve it. My new site only went live today, after you sent this, uh, not-spam, so there. > If You interesting a web advertising and promotion > You can visit http://www.terra.ee/noo/ and launch > automatic promotion by filling a form and placing > small text in Your page. First stage recommended, > it is free of charge. > "free of charge", but watch out for the very small, if not missing, print. > Sorry, if You will decide this is spam. My e-mail > is artur@noo.kiev.ua, this is one time offer to > e-mail from Your web page. It is SPAM, idiot. I guess Ukranian spammers still have to figure out the art of forging headers, then again, these ones are certainly a mess, if nothing else. Of all the mailing lists on all the servers that I belong to, FreeBSD's are wide open to spam. There should be tighter control over posting to the lists, at least they should require a subscription confirmation. Then at least we won't have to see, mostly, these idiot subscribe/unsubscribe messages. Douglas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 26 4:24: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.phys.univ.kiev.ua (hq.ups.kiev.ua [193.125.78.249]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B933D14CE1 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 04:23:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from usov@hq.ups.kiev.ua) Received: from hq.ups.kiev.ua (class12.phys.univ.kiev.ua [194.44.151.88]) by mail.phys.univ.kiev.ua (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA02114; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 14:32:50 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <383E8696.1D1F2863@hq.ups.kiev.ua> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 15:09:42 +0200 From: Usov Alexander X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dick Griffin Cc: "Rashid N. Achilov" , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: auto-logout References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Using "PINE" for e-mail, I frequently get a message > telling me that it was prepared usint the 'K018-R' > characters, and that my display is set for 'US-ASCII' > characters. > > What are 'K018-R' characters, and where can I find out > more about them? Am I really missing something when I > see messages prepared using them displyed in ASCII? > KOI8-R is a russian language codepage, and if You are not a russian (as I am) they would tell you nothing. By! Usov Alexander To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 26 6:25: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from f1node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.18.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 717E614C3F for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 06:25:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Received: from max.alleswirdgelber (uzs106@ascend-tk-p119.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.119]) by f1node01.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA63142; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 15:24:43 +0100 Received: from localhost (uzs106@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by max.alleswirdgelber (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA00889; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 14:52:39 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 14:52:38 +0100 (CET) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-Sender: uzs106@max.alleswirdgelber To: David Wolfskill Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vi and plus In-Reply-To: <199911251416.GAA02393@pau-amma.whistle.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, On Thu, 25 Nov 1999, David Wolfskill wrote: > [This probably ought to have gone to -questions, but I thought it would IMHO this sucks badly !! Questions and questions are not the same. Well, the gods may have allready decided but I think in the newbie cases, questions are only the tip of the icemountain. The real problem is vast ignorance that lies behind them. How to get an overview over this big BSD terrain. And this is IMHO not the topic of this other list. Well, maybe other think the same. Heiko To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 26 18:51: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from athserv.otenet.gr (athserv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CACB14BE4 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 18:51:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@diogenis.ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from localhost.hell.gr (patr530-a046.otenet.gr [195.167.115.46]) by athserv.otenet.gr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id EAA00741 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 04:50:59 +0200 (EET) Received: (qmail 15473 invoked by uid 1001); 26 Nov 1999 10:43:09 -0000 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: auto-logout References: From: Giorgos Keramidas Date: 26 Nov 1999 12:43:08 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Rashid N. Achilov"'s message of "Thu, 25 Nov 1999 20:20:18 +0600 (NOVT)" Message-ID: <86yabl8rer.fsf@localhost.hell.gr> Lines: 16 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/XEmacs 21.1 - "20 Minutes to Nikko" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Rashid N. Achilov" writes: > > What are 'K018-R' characters, and where can I find out > > more about them? Am I really missing something when I > > see messages prepared using them displyed in ASCII? > > KOI8-R is Russian charset. In my mail reader it set by default. If > message wrote in English, you don't miss anything. I also use `export LESSCHARSET=koi8-r' as a way of cheating my `less' to display all the 8-bit characters of the greek encoding (latin-7). I am not Russian, but it sure has helped me a lot pretending to be one ;) -- Giorgos Keramidas, "What we have to learn to do, we learn by doing." [Aristotle] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 26 19: 7: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F28AC14F5E for ; Fri, 26 Nov 1999 19:06:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA92903 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 12:30:08 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 12:30:08 +1100 (EST) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <199911270130.MAA92903@phoenix.welearn.com.au> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Nov 27 19:26: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.shadow.net (mail.shadow.net [204.177.71.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C63614EF6 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 19:26:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from reason@shadow.net) Received: from ararat.excedone.com (mail@ppp1-195.shadow.net [207.17.59.215]) by mail.shadow.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA02498 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 22:25:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=ararat ident=vladik) by ararat.excedone.com with smtp (Exim 3.03 #1 (Debian)) for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG id 11ruxP-0000Su-00; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 22:24:59 -0500 From: Vladislav To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: [Q]Extended Partion Slice for FBsd Install? Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 22:09:11 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99112722245800.00761@ararat> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -------------------------------- FreeBSD 3.3 (release). PII 266 dual Soyo motherboard with LX chipset (latest BIOS is installed). ------------------------------- Hello, I am in a quest to install a bunch of Operating systems on my new 20 Gb hard disk (IDE, Maxtor Diamond Plus) Because I cannot have more then 4 primary partitions on a Disk, I need to put FreeBSD and Linux on two separate slices (logical disks) of an extended partion. Linux can be installed, but when I try FreeBSD, I do not see my logical drive (6) during the Fdisking process in FreeBSD install (actually, I do not see any of my logical drives). The only thing I see is the extended partion wd0s1, wd0s2, wd0s3, wd0s4 (this is my extended partion). What I want to see is wd0s5 (Linux) and wd0s6 (FreeBSD) and wd0s7 (OpenBSD). How did I get my logical and primary drives? .... Well... I used Linux's fdisk program that allowed my to allocate all the slices. In there I specificaly assigned /dev/hda6 to be of type 0x5a (In freebsd this would be /dev/wd0s6, type 165). Am I doing something wrong, or am I doing something impossible? Another thing, may be this matters.... When using Linux's fdisk, I had to manually specify number of heads and cylinders, because somehow it was getting it incorrectly (probably because of LBA enabled on my IDE).... But FreeBSD gets it right (and there is no option to specify disk geometry anyways in its disk label program). And by the way, I do see the logical slices just fine in /dev (I try running fixit with life fs cdrom). It is just that I somehow cannot see them during that fdisk process. -- Thanks in advance for any help, Vladislav To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Nov 27 19:50: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.shadow.net (mail.shadow.net [204.177.71.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D90C314BF5 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 19:50:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from reason@shadow.net) Received: from ararat.excedone.com (mail@ppp1-195.shadow.net [207.17.59.215]) by mail.shadow.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA03820 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 22:49:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=ararat ident=vladik) by ararat.excedone.com with smtp (Exim 3.03 #1 (Debian)) for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG id 11rvKe-0000TM-00; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 22:49:00 -0500 From: Vladislav To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [Q]Extended Partion Slice for FBsd Install? Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 22:47:02 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain References: <99112722245800.00761@ararat> In-Reply-To: <99112722245800.00761@ararat> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99112722485801.00761@ararat> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, Just read Linux+FreeBSD mini Howto and it answered my question (http://www.ssc.com/mirrors/LDP/HOWTO/mini/Linux+FreeBSD-2.html) I cannot do it. Sorry, I shoud have read it earlier, I tried the Docs available during the install process and the handbook ( I have a printed copy) but it was not there. Vladislav On Sat, 27 Nov 1999, Vladislav wrote: > -------------------------------- > FreeBSD 3.3 (release). > PII 266 dual > Soyo motherboard with LX chipset (latest BIOS is installed). > ------------------------------- > Hello, > I am in a quest to install a bunch of Operating systems on my new > 20 Gb hard disk (IDE, Maxtor Diamond Plus) > > Because I cannot have more then 4 primary partitions on a Disk, > I need to put FreeBSD and Linux on two separate slices (logical > disks) of an extended partion. > Linux can be installed, but when I try FreeBSD, I do not see my > logical drive (6) during the Fdisking process in FreeBSD install (actually, > I do not see any of my logical drives). > The only thing I see is the extended partion wd0s1, wd0s2, wd0s3, wd0s4 (this > is my extended partion). > What I want to see is wd0s5 (Linux) and wd0s6 (FreeBSD) > and wd0s7 (OpenBSD). > How did I get my logical and primary drives? .... > Well... I used Linux's fdisk program that allowed my to allocate > all the slices. In there I specificaly assigned /dev/hda6 to be > of type 0x5a (In freebsd this would be /dev/wd0s6, type 165). > > Am I doing something wrong, or am I doing something impossible? > > Another thing, may be this matters.... > When using Linux's fdisk, I had to manually specify number of heads > and cylinders, because somehow it was getting it incorrectly (probably because > of LBA enabled on my IDE).... But FreeBSD gets it right (and there is no option > to specify disk geometry anyways in its disk label program). > > And by the way, I do see the logical slices just fine in /dev (I try running > fixit with life fs cdrom). > It is just that I somehow cannot see them during that fdisk process. > > -- > Thanks in advance for any help, > Vladislav > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- .. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Nov 27 23:49:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.shadow.net (mail.shadow.net [204.177.71.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66A8315596 for ; Sat, 27 Nov 1999 23:49:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from reason@shadow.net) Received: from ararat.excedone.com (mail@ppp1-195.shadow.net [207.17.59.215]) by mail.shadow.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA15337 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 02:48:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=ararat ident=vladik) by ararat.excedone.com with smtp (Exim 3.03 #1 (Debian)) for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG id 11rz42-0000UE-00; Sun, 28 Nov 1999 02:48:06 -0500 From: Vladislav To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: [Q] how to boot if root beyond cyl 1024 Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 02:43:22 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99112802480402.00761@ararat> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I have installed FreeBSD in a partion that is beyond cylinder 1024. If I select 'Install Boot Manager" after fdisk, and then boot from the hard disk, clicking F4 (my freebsd is on slice 4) does nothing. If I select Standard MBR, I get an error saying that my root partion is beyond cylinder 1024. So, how does it work?? While installing I did not get an option to create a floppy disk of some sort that will let me boot from the /dev/wd0s4a. Is it possible to do at all? (I have an 20Gb IDE disk, FreeBSD 3.3-release) Thanks, Vladislav To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message