From owner-freebsd-small Sun Aug 8 18:51:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from daedal.oneway.com (daedal.oneway.com [205.252.89.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA14614E7A; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 18:51:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jay@oneway.com) Received: from localhost (jay@localhost) by daedal.oneway.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA22573; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 21:49:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jay@oneway.com) Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 21:49:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Jay Kuri To: Kazutaka YOKOTA Cc: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Access to keyboard without video. In-Reply-To: <199908070946.SAA14288@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > In FreeBSD version 3.1 or later, the keyboard controller atkbdc(4) and > AT keyboard driver atkbd(4) will give you access to the keyboard even > when there is no video card. Thanks, I read the source and found the CDEV stuff... I had to disable the sc0 device to get access to it. and then I had to hack kbdcontrol to open /dev/kbd0 instead of stdin (which is what it currently does) Shouldn't you be able to specify the kbd you want to control with kbdcontrol? Maybe default to stdin.. but allow access to the keyboard device as specified? Jay - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - UNIX: because reboots are for hardware upgrades Jay Kuri jay@oneway.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Sun Aug 8 19:46:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAA5314D36; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 19:46:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:r7dbORY7NzORHmsvT70xohaEyI1GYP3+@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7Wpl2) with ESMTP id LAA06718; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:43:12 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id LAA23264; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:47:31 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199908090247.LAA23264@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: Jay Kuri Cc: freebsd-small@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: Access to keyboard without video. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 08 Aug 1999 21:49:41 -0400." References: Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 11:47:30 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> In FreeBSD version 3.1 or later, the keyboard controller atkbdc(4) and >> AT keyboard driver atkbd(4) will give you access to the keyboard even >> when there is no video card. > Thanks, I read the source and found the CDEV stuff... I had to >disable the sc0 device to get access to it. and then I had to hack As I wrote before, when the console device, sc or vt, is present, the keyboard is exclusively used by the console driver. You can remove or disable the console driver to prevent this. Or pull out the video card. When a video card is not present, the console driver won't be installed. >kbdcontrol to open /dev/kbd0 instead of stdin (which is what it currently >does) > > Shouldn't you be able to specify the kbd you want to control with >kbdcontrol? Maybe default to stdin.. but allow access to the keyboard >device as specified? kbdcontrol _whatever_ < /dev/kbd0 Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Mon Aug 9 18:47:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from cheddar.netmonger.net (cheddar.netmonger.net [209.54.21.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF6F3151FD for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 18:47:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jordan@cheddar.netmonger.net) Received: (from jordan@localhost) by cheddar.netmonger.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA29882; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 21:44:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990809214451.53519@netmonger.net> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 21:44:51 -0400 From: Jordan Coleman To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Subject: subscribe freebsd-small Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-small jordan+fbsdsmall@colemancountry.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Tue Aug 10 7:54: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from members.unlimited.net (members.unlimited.net [209.186.200.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED2115453 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 07:53:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from norami@unlimited.net) Received: from unlimited.net (ts1-57.unlimited.net [209.186.200.57]) by members.unlimited.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA10298 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 07:46:59 -0700 Message-ID: <37B03EF0.A7DEC4D8@unlimited.net> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 08:02:08 -0700 From: John Oram Reply-To: norami@unlimited.net Organization: norAmi X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "list=freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: M$ ships Embedded NT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "On Monday, Microsoft announced it has begun shipping Windows NT Embedded 4.0, formerly code-named Impala. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Tue Aug 10 7:54:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEE2D1542C for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 07:54:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from freno.cs.tu-berlin.de (wosch@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.167]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA27881 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 16:51:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freno.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.0) id QAA01813 for small@freebsd.org; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 16:51:14 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 16:51:14 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: small@freebsd.org Subject: PicoBSD floppy with ssh installed Message-ID: <19990810165113.A1021@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm seeking a PicoBSD floppy with ssh installed. URL? Thanks, Wolfram -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Tue Aug 10 14: 0:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from freja.webgiro.com (freja.webgiro.com [212.209.29.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 595FC15443 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 14:00:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abial@webgiro.com) Received: by freja.webgiro.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5C7F61911; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 23:00:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freja.webgiro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BBF24A0B; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 23:00:26 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 23:00:25 +0200 (CEST) From: Andrzej Bialecki To: Wolfram Schneider Cc: small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PicoBSD floppy with ssh installed In-Reply-To: <19990810165113.A1021@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 10 Aug 1999, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > I'm seeking a PicoBSD floppy with ssh installed. URL? http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ Andrzej Bialecki // WebGiro AB, Sweden (http://www.webgiro.com) // ------------------------------------------------------------------- // ------ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve. http://www.freebsd.org -------- // --- Small & Embedded FreeBSD: http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ ---- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Aug 11 5:42:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE9A1154DE for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 05:42:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de) Received: from freno.cs.tu-berlin.de (wosch@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.167]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA16409; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:36:54 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by freno.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.9.1/8.9.0) id OAA03781; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:36:53 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:36:53 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Andrzej Bialecki Cc: small@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PicoBSD floppy with ssh installed Message-ID: <19990811143653.A3223@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <19990810165113.A1021@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: ; from Andrzej Bialecki on Tue, Aug 10, 1999 at 11:00:25PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 1999-08-10 23:00:25 +0200, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: > On Tue, 10 Aug 1999, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > > > I'm seeking a PicoBSD floppy with ssh installed. URL? > > http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ Where is the PicoBSD floppy with ssh installed on that page? I read all (english) READMEs and no README mention the ssh. I don't have the time to try and test 6 boot floppies ... -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Wed Aug 11 7:54:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from ikhala.tcimet.net (ikhala.tcimet.net [198.109.166.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CA7C15528 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 07:54:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dervish@ikhala.tcimet.net) Received: (from dervish@localhost) by ikhala.tcimet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA10765; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:53:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dervish) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:53:38 -0400 From: Natty Rebel To: Wolfram Schneider Cc: Andrzej Bialecki , small@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PicoBSD floppy with ssh installed Message-ID: <19990811105338.B10696@ikhala.tcimet.net> References: <19990810165113.A1021@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de> <19990811143653.A3223@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <19990811143653.A3223@freno.cs.tu-berlin.de>; from Wolfram Schneider on Wed, Aug 11, 1999 at 02:36:53PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 2C CE A5 D7 FA 4D D5 FD 9A CC 2B 23 04 46 48 F8 Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Quoting Wolfram Schneider (wosch@cs.tu-berlin.de): > On 1999-08-10 23:00:25 +0200, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: > > On Tue, 10 Aug 1999, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > > > > > I'm seeking a PicoBSD floppy with ssh installed. URL? > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ > > Where is the PicoBSD floppy with ssh installed on that page? It's the dialup version that contains ssh ... > I read all (english) READMEs and no README mention the ssh. The info what is in each distribution is really explained in /usr/src/release/picobsd/doc/hardware.html I'd be willing to write up something to say this if it hasn't already been done ... > > I don't have the time to try and test 6 boot floppies ... > > -- > Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org > > #:^) -- natty rebel harder than the rest ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Aug 12 10:44:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from Aries.utstar.com (mail.utstar.com [205.185.99.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 413D614CF5 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:44:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from suvrat@utstar.com) Received: from suvrat.utstar.com (nj48.utstar.com [172.16.2.48] (may be forged)) by Aries.utstar.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11595 for ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 13:40:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199908121740.NAA11595@Aries.utstar.com> From: "Suvrat" To: Subject: Re: Patch to PicoBSD net to fix pam stuff Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 13:42:54 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, The FreeBSD handbook gives an impression that one can use kernel or iijPPP with isdnd. But from the code it looks like only the syncPPP can be used. Which makes sense as I donot need any async processing on an ISDN line! But lot of comments in the I4B code still refer to USERLAND PPP which I assume is iijPPP. I am new to this and do no if this descripany is for real or I am missing something? Well I am interested in using iijPPP on ISDN so I can do MPPP. thanks suvrat email: suvrat@utstar.com Senior Software Engineer Ph (w) 732-767-5219 UTStarcom Inc (r) 732-721-3304 33 Wood Ave. south, 8th Flr. Iselin, NJ 08830 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu Aug 12 15:39:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from Aries.utstar.com (mail.utstar.com [205.185.99.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B8EC15682; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 15:39:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from suvrat@utstar.com) Received: from suvrat.utstar.com (nj48.utstar.com [172.16.2.48] (may be forged)) by Aries.utstar.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA19524; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 18:36:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199908122236.SAA19524@Aries.utstar.com> From: "Suvrat" To: , , Subject: userPPP vs kernel PPP performance Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 18:38:39 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Any pointers to userPPP(iijPPP) vs kernelPPP(pppd) performance? thanks -suvrat email: suvrat@utstar.com Senior Software Engineer Ph (w) 732-767-5219 UTStarcom Inc (r) 732-721-3304 33 Wood Ave. south, 8th Flr. Iselin, NJ 08830 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message